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SO ERIC.

OKAY.

[ CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS STATE OF OHIO Town Hall Meeting April 14, 2021 6:30 P.M. City Hall - Council Chambers - 6131 Taylorsville Road ]

SO OVER THE LAST, WELL, WELCOME TO EVERYBODY AGAIN.

AND FOR ANYONE WHO IS WATCHING THE LIVE STREAM FROM HOME OVER THE LAST PROBABLY SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS, I HAVE GOTTEN A VERY INCREASINGLY AMOUNT OF EMAILS AND PERSONAL MESSAGES TO ME REGARDING, UM, SOME SPEED VIOLATORS, I GUESS, IN THE CITY.

AND IT'S NOT JUST IN ANY SPECIFIC AREA.

I MEAN, THIS IS, UM, A PROBLEM THAT'S BEING ADDRESSED ALL OVER THE CITY THAT PEOPLE ARE NOTICING AND NOT JUST THROUGH THE STREETS, BUT EVEN WHAT'S EVEN MORE CONCERNING IS PEOPLE SPEEDING THROUGH SCHOOL ZONES DURING SCHOOL HOURS WHILE WE'VE GOT KIDS ON THE STREETS, I'VE RECEIVED VIDEOS.

I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE SITTING THE VIDEOS WHERE THEY'RE RECORDING PEOPLE, DRIVING WAY TOO FAST THROUGH SCHOOL ZONES, WHERE, WHERE KIDS ARE.

AND THE ISSUE IS SOMEBODY SPEEDS BY YOU DON'T HAVE THEIR, YOU GOT A VIDEO, YOU CAN SEE IT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A DRIVERS OR A LICENSE PLATE NUMBER.

UM, WE COULD CALL THE POLICE AND SAY, HEY, SO-AND-SO, I'VE SEEN THIS CAR SPEEDING DOWN THE ROAD, BUT WE DIDN'T SEE THEM.

THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT LEGALLY WE CAN DO.

SO WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO DO THIS TOWN HALL FOR WAS TO OFFER A CHANCE FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO COME AND TALK TO US AGAIN, THE CHIEF'S HERE AND THE MILLIGAN'S HERE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A DIALOGUE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS WHAT'S GOING ON, AND THEN NOT JUST FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, BUT THEN WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.

AND IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED, WE NEED MORE RESOURCES.

UM, DO WE NEED MORE PATROL OFFICERS? THEN IF THAT'S THE FEELING WE'RE GETTING FROM THE COMMUNITY, THEN OUR JOB AS IS TO MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF RESOURCES TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUES THAT, UH, OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS OR RESIDENTS ARE SEEING.

SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU'RE HERE AND YOU'RE LETTING US KNOW WHAT YOU SEE AND WHAT SOME OF THOSE ISSUES ARE.

AND THEN WE CAN ADDRESS IT WITHIN THE MEANS THAT WE HAVE, BUT OUR JOB AS COUNCIL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ALL THE RESOURCES THEY NEED AND THAT THE CHIEF COMES TO US.

AND I'M AS COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE HERE, AT LEAST FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, I BELIEVE YOU WOULDN'T HEAR ANY OF US SAY WE WOULDN'T PROVIDE THOSE RESOURCES THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ASKING FOR.

SO IT'S CERTAINLY LOOK, UH, TO WHATEVER WE COULD DO TO ALLOCATE THOSE SIGNS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE SEE.

AND, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH THERE MAY BE DISAGREEMENTS AMONG SOME OF US ON CITY COUNCIL, THE ONE THING NONE OF US HAVE EVER DISAGREED ON IS PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE.

AND WE ALWAYS HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THIS COMMUNITY REMAINS SAFE.

SO, UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING TONIGHT WAS TO GET SOME DIALOGUE STARTED ON HOPING THIS ISN'T THE FIRST AND LAST, BUT MAYBE THE FIRST OF MANY WHERE WE HAVE GOOD DIALOGUE, OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SOME IDEAS THEY WANT TO DISCUSS AND TALK ABOUT MAYBE COME TO THE NEXT ONE.

BUT CERTAINLY IT'S AN IMPORTANT TOPIC THAT WE DO NEED TO TALK ABOUT.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SOME WORDS YOU WANT TO SAY OR JUST SAYING CHIEF, OR DO WE JUST WANT TO TURN IT RIGHT OVER TO, SO WE'LL JUST HAVE SOME HOPS IN QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

SO I KNOW A LOT OF YOU HERE, SOME OF YOU ARE HAVE, FIRSTLY EMAILED ME AND SENT ME MESSAGES.

SO NOW CERTAINLY NOT THE TIME TO BE SHY.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AGAIN, WE HAVE GOOD DIALOGUE.

WE ONLY FIND SOLUTIONS THROUGH TALKING THROUGH THESE THINGS AND FINDING OUT WHAT ISSUES THAT YOU SEE.

SO THAT BEING SAID, WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO COME TO THE PODIUM AND TALK, OR IF YOU JUST WANT TO, I CAN BRING THE MICROPHONE TO YOU, JUST MAKE SURE YOU SPEAK LOUD ENOUGH AGAIN, WHERE PEOPLE AT HOME HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR WHAT THE QUESTIONS ARE SO EVERYBODY CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE.

SO ANYBODY WANT TO GO FIRST AND JUST KIND OF THAT, HEY, PERFECT.

SURE.

YEAH.

AND IF YOU WOULD, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL US WHERE YOU LIVE, BUT JUST STATE YOUR NAME, JUST SO WE HAVE FOR THE RECORD.

MA'AM, UH, MY NAME IS DON ROSS.

I LIVE UP IN CARRIAGE TRAILS.

UM, CHIEF, I KNOW CARRIE'S TRAILS, UM, WHERE WE LIVE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A WALLET, I DON'T SEE A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I DO SEE THE PARKWAY VERY CLEAR, UM, AUDIBLY, VISIBLY ON THE REGULAR.

LIKE I WAS TELLING FOLKS BEFORE YOU GUYS CAME OUT, I CAN TELL WHAT CARS GOING BY, BY THE SOUND, YOU KNOW, UM, I KNOW A CHIEF, I KNOW I'D SENT YOU A VIDEO, SOMEBODY DRIFTED AROUND ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LONG AFTER WE MOVED IN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT KIND OF STARTED MY ATTENTION.

LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON OUT HERE.

UM, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DID, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING EVERYTHING YOU CAN WITH PUTTING UP THE, THE SPEED LIMIT INDICATOR, THE SPEED INDICATOR LIGHTS, YOU KNOW, BUT WHEN THOSE GO UP, I WATCH IT BECOME A GAME.

HOW FAT, HOW HIGH CAN I MAKE IT GO BEFORE I GET THERE? YOU KNOW, UM, I BROUGHT THAT, UH, DATA WITH ME, UM, WHEN WE PUT THOSE OUT THOSE PORTABLE SPEED MEASURING DEVICES, NOT ONLY DO THEY SHOW A SPEED, BUT THEY ALSO COLLECT DATA ON EVERY CAR THAT GOES BY THE SPEEDS, THE TIME OF DAY, HOW MANY WERE EXCESSIVE, HOW MANY WERE WITHIN THE SPEED.

SO I HAD THAT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT FROM THAT.

SURE.

THAT'D BE, THAT'D BE AWESOME.

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UM, IT'S JUST VERY, VERY FRUSTRATING.

I'VE GOT THREE GRANDKIDS, YOU KNOW, UM, WE, WE PUT IN A POOL, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SIT OUT THERE AND ENJOY IT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE REASON WE'RE HERE, THE NOISE AND THE SPEED AND ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE LIVE ON A CORNER.

SO I DO GET A LITTLE BIT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, COMING OFF THE PARKWAY TO GO BACK THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU KNOW, I, I PROBABLY SEEN SPEEDS.

I WOULD SAY UPWARDS OF 50, YOU KNOW, WHEN A CAR IS WHEN YOU CAN AUDIBLY HEAR CARS, SNAPPING OFF GEARS, YOU GET AN IDEA OF HOW FAST THEY'RE GOING.

UM, IT'S, IT'S, I JUST REALLY WORRY NOW BACK IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, SOMETHING REALLY BAD IS GOING TO HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, AND AS I REITERATED TO YOU, I KNOW IT'S HARD.

LIKE THERE'S NOWHERE FOR YOU TO SIT OUT THERE WHERE YOU CAN'T BE SEEN, YOU KNOW, WOULD THAT BE A DETERRENT? YEAH.

BUT EVENTUALLY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE THERE AND IT'S GOING TO BE BUSINESS AS USUAL.

UM, SO AGAIN, I APPRECIATE MARY, YOU, YOU AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS PUTTING THIS ON FOR US, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S FOR EVERY ONE OF ME THERE'S PROBABLY 45 OR 50 MORE.

YOU, IT JUST, IT COULDN'T MAKE IT TONIGHT.

UM, SO AGAIN, I KNOW WE ALL APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO.

WELL, AWARENESS IS A BIG THING.

I THINK IF WE CAN, SOMEHOW AS A COMMUNITY, LET PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE ALL PAYING ATTENTION TO AND FOCUSED ON.

THEN IF, IF, IF PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE ARE BEING MORE AWARE AND THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS, IS, I MEAN, THEY'RE ALREADY AWARE THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE HAVE 430 MILES OF ROAD AND YOU WERE HEIGHTS AND THAT'S A LOT OF LANE MILES TO COVER, UM, WITH THE AMOUNT OF, YOU KNOW, 40,000 PEOPLE.

SO I KNOW, UM, EVERYBODY DOES THE BEST THEY CAN, BUT IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE AWARENESS IS HEIGHTENED, IS THAT A DETERRENT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE PAYING ATTENTION.

I AIN'T, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S MY ACTION TODAY.

I, UH, ONE OF OUR ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LIVES IN KAREN STRIPS AND HE WAS JOKING AROUND, WE HAD A STAFF MEETING TODAY.

HE SAYS, UM, I'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF COPS GOING BY, UM, THAT A COUPLE OF COWS DRIVING BY ON THE STREET THAT I, YOU KNOW, WE NORMALLY SEE AND I STARTED, HEY, YOU HAVING THIS TOWN HALL THING GOING ON, I THINK THAT'S GOT SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.

SO I THINK JUST AWARENESS IS REALLY A BIG DEAL.

IF I'M AWARE THAT THERE ARE POLICE AROUND AND THEY'RE PAYING MORE ATTENTION AND THEY'RE FOCUSED ON SPEEDERS, THEN MAYBE THAT'LL GET PEOPLE TO TAKE THEIR FOOT OFF THE PEDAL.

I DON'T LIKE TO THINK SO.

SO WHEN I TALKED TO YOU, I THINK IT WAS WHEN I TALKED TO YOU LAST, IT WAS AROUND OCTOBER.

UM, SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE PUT THE SIGNS OUT FOR A WEEK.

WE PUT THEM OUT, UH, OCTOBER 17TH AND 18TH, AND THEN THAT WAS A SATURDAY AND A SUNDAY.

AND THEN A WHOLE WEEK AFTER THAT, THEY WERE OUT.

SO LIKE I SAID, THOSE SPEED MEASURING DEVICES, COLLECT DATA FOR US TIMES OF DAY, HOW FAST THE CARS WERE GOING.

IF YOU LOOK AT THIS AND I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU, WHEN YOU SET OUT TO TRY TO TAKE A BETTER LOOK AT.

SO DURING THE, DURING THE, UH, THE PEAK TIME OF TRAFFIC, WHICH WAS 1,347 CARS IN THAT WEEKEND, UH, MOST OF THEM WERE GOING BETWEEN 31 AND 35 MILES AN HOUR.

SO MOST TRAFFIC, MAJORITY OF TRAFFIC IS GOING TO SPEED LIMIT.

NOW, WHAT I WILL SAY IS, AND I USED TO LIVE OUT THERE.

I LIVED IN, IN, UH, THE CONDOMINIUMS THERE AT TROY AND, UH, CARRIES TRAILS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

AND, UH, I WILL SAY IF YOU, THE SPEED LIMIT IS 35, BUT IF YOU TAKE AROUND ABOUT A 35, YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GOING 50.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

IF YOU TAKE AROUND ABOUT A 35 AND IF YOU SEE SOMEBODY TAKING AROUND ABOUT A 35, YOU'RE GOING TO THINK THEY'RE GOING ABOUT 50.

CAUSE YOU CAN'T TAKE AROUND ABOUT A 35 MILE AN HOUR.

OKAY.

SO VISUALLY THAT MIGHT LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT UM, IN EXCESS 56 TO 60 MILE, AN HOUR OR TWO CARS, 51 TO 55, FIVE CARS, 46 TO 50 11.

SO OUT OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CARS THAT WERE, UH, THAT WERE RECORDED, UM, WE'RE TALKING 20 CARS IN OF 46.

NOW, CAN I ASK, IS THIS THE ONE THAT WAS BETWEEN CENTER? AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT ROUNDABOUT, THIS IS ONE, THE ONE THAT WAS BETWEEN SENATE AND THEN THAT NEWER WHAT'S THE STREET DOWN THERE THEN I THINK IT'S LAKESIDE.

MOST OF WHAT I SEE IS SENNA OUT TO TWO OH TWO.

WHERE'S THAT? IT'S, IT'S THE GRADUAL.

THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE YOU DID AFTER WE TALKED.

OKAY.

SO WHAT WE DID WAS THEN WE PUT A, UH, WE DID A TARGETED ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS.

SO ON OCTOBER THE 16TH AND 17, NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE THE SIGNS OUT, BUT WE HAD, UH, FIVE OFFICERS OUT IN THAT WHOLE WEEKEND, OVER CERTAIN HOURS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THEM OUT THERE, BUT THEY WERE, THEY WERE HITTING IT HARD.

UM, TWO O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON TILL SIX O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING.

SERGEANT CARR, 11 TO TWO, UM, WAS OFFICER DILLS THREE TO SEVEN, OFFICER HAWAIIAN, UH, FOUR TO SIX IN THE EVENING, OFFICER TYREE.

AND THEN ON THE NEXT DAY, SERGEANT CARDIGAN, TWO 30 IN THE AFTERNOON, TILL SIX 30 IN THE EVENING.

AND SERGEANT GARLOW TWO TO SIX.

AND, UH, UM, UH, WHAT WAS THE OTHER PAGE HERE FROM THE NUMBERS THAT THEY GOT?

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ALL RIGHT, THERE IT IS.

IT'S IN THE BOTTOM HERE DURING THAT DETAIL, SIX VEHICLES WERE STOPPED FOR SPEEDING.

THIS RESULTED IN FOUR CITATIONS TO VERBAL WARNINGS.

THE HIGHEST SPEED THEY GOT WAS 59, WHICH HAS MOVEMENT.

YEAH.

I, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MIXED, MIXED FEELINGS WITH RESIDENTS ABOUT, UM, ROUNDABOUTS.

I'M A FAN OF ROUNDABOUTS AND SOME PEOPLE ARE, I AM.

UM, I THINK THAT WHEN YOU PUT A STOP SIGN SOMEWHERE THAT JUST INCREASES THE CHANCE OF SOMEBODY PULLING OUT IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY GOING TOO FAST.

ROUNDABOUTS DO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN.

NOW, DOES THIS SLOW THEM DOWN TO THE SPEED THAT THEY SHOULD BE AT ONE AROUND THE ROUNDABOUT? NO, NOT ALWAYS.

AND DOES EVERYBODY KNOW HOW TO NEGOTIATE AROUND A MOUNTAIN? NO WAY.

CAUSE I'VE DRIVEN DOWN THERE SO MANY TIMES AND THEY, YOU, YOU THINK THAT CAR TO THE LEFT DON'T EVEN THINK IT'S GOING TO STOP AND LET YOU GO.

BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO MANEUVER AROUND, BUT I WILL TELL YOU WE ARE OUT THERE BECAUSE FROM, FROM A RESONANT OUT THERE, A FRIEND OF MINE WHO RESIDES OUT THERE SINCE MIA SENDS ME A SCREENSHOT OF A FACEBOOK POSTING AND UH, SAYS BE READY.

CAUSE THEY'RE SAYING YOU'RE NEVER OUT HERE AND I KNOW YOU ARE.

OH YEAH, I AGREE.

I MEAN, I GET BOTH SIDES OF IT.

OKAY.

AND WE'RE OUT THERE.

I MEAN, WE HAVE A COUPLE OFFICERS THAT LIVE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, AND WE ARE OUT THERE.

NOW, WHAT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IS HOW THE FEED STRUCTURE IN THIS CITY AND THIS ISN'T JUST FOR YOU, BUT EVERYBODY WATCHING EVERYBODY ELSE HOW THE BEACH STRUCTURE IN OUR CITY IS.

SO WHEN I SAY A BEAT, IT'S AN AREA OF TOWN.

THAT ONE OFFICER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PATROLLING DURING THEIR EIGHT HOUR SHIFT.

OKAY.

SO IF YOU TAKE CHAMBERSBURG ROAD AND YOU DIVIDE IT, NORTH AND SOUTH SOUTH SIDE OF CHAMBERSBURG ROAD DOWN TO THE SOUTH CITY LIMITS IS THE ONE IN THE TWO.

MEET THE DIVISION FOR THE ONE IN THE TWO BEATS, SOUTH OF CHAMBERSBURG AS HARSHMAN BILL.

SO IF YOU, SO NOW YOU IMAGINE HARSHMAN BUILT DIVIDING THAT.

SO NOW YOU'VE GOT THE SOUTH WEST SIDE OF THE CITY IS THE ONE BEAT DOES ONE OFFICER DOWN THERE.

THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE CITY IS THE TV ONE OFFICER DOWN THERE.

NOW YOU GO CHAMBERSBURG UP TO INTERSTATE 70 WITH HARSHMAN.

BILL IS STILL THE DIVIDER EASTERN WEST.

NOW YOU'VE GOT THE THREE BEAT ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER, UP TO 70 AND THE FOUR BEAT ON THE NORTH EAST CORNER.

OKAY.

ALL THE WAY UP TO THE NORTH CITY LIMITS ON BRAND PIPE, BECAUSE WE'RE THE DIVISION FOR THE FIVE BEAT IS, IS YOU TAKE BRAND HEIGHT ALL THE WAY UP FROM THE CITY.

AND ON THE WEST SIDE OF GRAND PIPE, ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE CITY LIMITS WEST, WHICH WOULD BE COURAGE TRAIL OUT THERE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED TRAFFIC UNIT IN HUMAN RIGHTS.

WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES FOR THEM, SO WE CAN HAVE A UNIT THAT GOES OUT AND JUST AS TRAFFIC.

SO THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY OF AN OFFICER ON THE STREET IS TO ANSWER CALLS FOR SERVICE.

THAT'S THEIR PRIMARY RESPONSE.

RIGHT? OKAY.

SO I'M THE FIVE BEAT CAR AND I'M ASSIGNED TO CARRIAGE TRAILS, SHOAL ROAD, THE SHOPPING CENTERS, EXECUTIVE, ALL THAT AREA THERE.

AND I GET A SHOPLIFT.

OKAY.

AND I HAVE TO DO THE PAPERWORK TAKEN DOWN TO THE JAIL NOW FOR THAT TIME BEING, YEAH.

I'M NOT RUNNING TRAFFIC UP IN ANYBODY'S NEIGHBORHOOD.

RIGHT.

AND NO OTHER OFFICER IS CAUSE THEY'RE IN THEIR ASSIGNED AREA.

OKAY.

NOW I HAVE ANOTHER CALL COMES IN.

ANOTHER OFFICER FROM ANOTHER AREA IS GOING TO COME OVER THERE AND TAKE THE CALL.

OKAY.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT UNFORTUNATELY HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE DO WHEN WE HAVE TIME TO DO IT.

AND WE DO, WE READ, WE READ A LOT.

TICKETS MAKE A LOT OF STOPS.

YOU SEE US OUT THERE ON STOPS.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO DO IT.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE A UNIT THAT CAN PRIMARILY JUST DO THAT.

SO WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE A PUBLIC AFFAIRS UNIT AND THAT PUBLIC AFFAIRS UNIT WILL DO TARGETED ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS.

SO LET'S SAY WE HAVE LIKE TONIGHT, LET'S SAY WE GET A HANDFUL OF PLACES WHERE PEOPLE SAY IT REALLY NEEDS ATTENTION FOR SPEEDING.

OKAY.

OUR TARGETED ENFORCEMENT SERGEANT, THEN WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE STAFFING ON THE, ON THE STREET, PULL A COUPLE OFFICERS OFF THE STREET INTO CERTAIN TIME PERIODS OF THE DAY.

AND WE MAY DO A ONE WEEK, TWO WEEK BLITZ OF JUST THAT ONE AREA OR THE FIVE AREAS OR THE SIXTH OR WHATEVER ROTATE.

AND WE HAMMER THAT.

BUT THEN WE EVENTUALLY HAVE TO PUT THOSE OFFICERS BACK ON THE STREET ONTO THEIR SHIFT TOO, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU'RE COVERING THAT WITH OVERTIME.

YOU GOTTA PUT THEM BACK.

WE DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED UNIT.

SO LIKE YOU SAID, ONE THING THAT WOULD BE NICE EVENTUALLY TO GET TO.

AND WHAT I DO APPRECIATE WHAT COUNCIL HAS DONE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IS THEY'VE GIVEN US OUR FOUR UNFUNDED POSITIONS BACK THAT WERE UNFUNDED FOR YEARS.

SO NOW, CURRENTLY TODAY, ALL FOUR OF OUR UNFUNDED POSITIONS ARE BACK.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAD FIVE PEOPLE RETIRED THE FIRST DIVISION.

SO I'M IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE DOING SIX BACKGROUNDS RIGHT NOW.

AND WE'RE UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO HIRE, WE HAVE TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE BECAUSE WE HIT A TIME WHERE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE GOT HIRED AT THE SAME TIME.

MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, 25 YEARS AGO.

AND THEY ALL WERE ELIGIBLE TO RETIRE AT ONE TIME, THEY DECIDED NOT TO DO THE DEFERRED RETIREMENT OPTION PLAN.

THEY DECIDED JUST TO RETIRE.

SO THEY ALL RETIRED AT THE SAME TIME.

OKAY.

SO

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WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW.

BUT WE GET THAT.

WE GET THOSE POSITIONS SPILLED ALONG WITH THOSE UNFUNDED ONES THAT, THAT THE COUNCIL GAVE US BACK.

UM, THEN WE'RE IN A POSITION.

NUMBER ONE TO MAKE A FIVE BEAT SYSTEM, 24 SEVEN, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I'M IN A POSITION.

I CAN'T DO A FIVE BEAT SYSTEM, 24 SEVEN.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS I CAN'T PUT AN OFFICER IN FIVE BEATS, 24 HOURS OUT OF A DAY.

OKAY.

SO LIKE ON DAY SHIFTS, SOMETIMES THAT THREE BEAT CAR WHO'S DOWN AROUND TAYLORSVILLE ROAD MIGHT HAVE TO SCOOT ON UP AND ALSO HANDLE THE FIVE FEET.

OKAY.

BUT ONCE WE GET THESE POSITIONS ADDED, THEN MY GOAL IS THEN TO HAVE A FIVE BEAT SYSTEM, 24 SEVEN, THEN THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE ANY NEW POSITIONS WE ADD WOULD HAVE TO BE POSITIONS THAT HAVE TO BE CREATED AND FUNDED.

AND THEN THAT WOULD BE A TRAFFICKING THAT TO TRY TO GET A TRAFFIC, TWO TO THREE PERSON, TRAFFIC, THAT ALL THE ADDRESSES IS TRAFFIC CRASHES.

THEY IDENTIFY WHERE THE PROBLEM CRASH AREAS ARE.

THEY HIT THOSE AREAS, HARD SPEED ENFORCEMENT, REALLY JUST QUALITY OF LIFE TYPE ISSUES.

IT'S NOT EVEN JUST TRAFFIC.

IT'S JUST QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES.

BECAUSE SOME THINGS THAT ARE REALLY A QUALITY.

I FOUND THIS OUT IN 34 YEARS AS A POLICE OFFICER, THAT THE MOST ANNOYING THINGS THAT HAPPEN.

AREN'T REALLY THE BIG THINGS.

CAUSE YOU DON'T REALLY, MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT INVOLVED IN BIG CRIMES.

OKAY? RIGHT.

YOU'RE NOT A VICTIM OF A MAJOR CRIME, MAJORITY OF PEOPLE, BUT THE MOST ANNOYING THINGS FOR YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE IS SOMETHING THAT DO A LOT OF PEOPLE SEEM SMALL, BUT IT'S NOT OKAY.

FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'RE IN BED TRYING TO SLEEP.

AND THE DOG NEXT DOOR IS BARKING AND BARKING AND BARKING AND BARKING.

AND THAT IS ANNOYING.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

TO MOST PEOPLE THEY SAY, IT'S NO BIG DEAL, BUT FOR YOU TRYING TO GET TO SLEEP, IT'S A BIG DEAL, YOU KNOW, AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT.

OKAY.

SO JUST QUALITY OF LIFE TYPE STUFF, YOU KNOW, THAT WE TRY TO ADDRESS.

SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL TRY TO DO.

THAT'S WHAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO TRY TO DO.

I MEAN, I I'VE BEEN WORKING OUT HERE ON THE STREETS, TOM.

HE'S BEEN ON THE STREETS HERE FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN HERE 30 YEARS.

SO HE HASN'T CHANGED A WHOLE LOT OTHER THAN POPULATION GROWTH.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

BUT IT'S STILL THE SAME CITY WE PATROLLED BACK IN THE NINETIES, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SPED, THEN THEY SPEED NOW.

AND I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT I HEARD FROM ANOTHER OFFICER A WHILE BACK.

HE SAID, WHEN YOU GO FISHING AND YOU THROW YOUR FISHING LIVER IN TO CATCH A FISH, DO YOU EVER CATCH ALL OF THEM? YOU NEVER DID.

YOU TRY TO CATCH AS MANY AS YOU CAN.

AND THAT'S WHAT, RIGHT.

JUST ONE LAST THING, ROUNDABOUTS.

I KNOW AT THE FIRST ONE THERE, BY THE, I FORGET, I STILL DON'T KNOW ALL THE NAMES OF IT, BUT LIKE THE RETIREMENT VILLAGE, THEY RIGHT AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE, I KNOW THERE'S A DIRECTIONAL ARROW, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S THE ONLY ROUNDABOUT THAT HAS A DIRECTIONAL ARROW.

AND FROM WHERE MY HOUSE SITS IN 2020, I WORKED AT HOME EVERY DAY.

UM, CONTINUALLY PEOPLE COMING FROM TWO OH TWO TURN LEFT.

SO IS THERE A WAY TO PUT LIKE ONE ON EACH SIDE OF EACH ROUNDABOUT SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW, HEY, YOU CAN'T MAKE THESE LEFT TURNS.

SO ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE.

RIGHT.

AND WE HAVE OUR CITY ENGINEER HERE AS WELL.

UM, AND AGAIN, AND MR. IS A CIVIL ENGINEER BY TRADE AS WELL.

AND WE HAVE OUR OWN SIGN SHOP HERE.

WE MAKE OUR OWN SIGNS.

SO I THINK THEN THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T THE BIG ISSUE TOO, IS AGAIN, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE SIGNED POLLUTION, WHERE EVERYWHERE YOU GO, THERE'S JUST, YOU KNOW, SO MANY SIGNS THAT YOU ALMOST DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO LOOK THAT TAKES YOUR EYES AWAY FROM THE IMPORTANCE.

BUT IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND THAT MAKES SENSE IF THAT'S AN ISSUE, THEN YEAH.

THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE GETTING SIGNS UP.

WE MAKE THOSE SIGNS OURSELVES.

OKAY.

AND WITH OUR OWN ENGINEERING STAFF HERE, WE CAN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT WOULD WORK.

OKAY.

SOUNDS GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

HI, MY NAME IS JENNIFER PORTER.

I LIVE ON LAKESIDE AND CARRIAGE TRAILS AND I JUST WANTED TO KINDA TOUCH ON SOME THINGS THAT HE SAID.

UM, SPEEDING IS OBVIOUSLY MY MAIN CONCERN.

UM, I HAVE A THREE-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER AND THERE ARE TONS OF KIDS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I KNOW YOU TOUCHED ON SOMEBODY SPEEDING IN A SCHOOL ZONE.

AND RECENTLY THERE WAS SOMEONE WHO SPED AROUND A SCHOOL BUS WITH THEIR STOP SIGN OUT.

UM, WHILE MOM IN A SUMMER CROSSING THE STREET.

UM, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT THE OTHER PARTS ARE MAJOR ISSUES, BUT I LIVE ON LIKE SIDE.

SO I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT LAKESIDE.

UM, MANY TIMES WE HAVE BEEN LIKE TURNING INTO OUR GARAGE.

PEOPLE WILL FLY AROUND US, GOING THE OPPOSITE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET, WHERE THE BEND IS LIKE, IT GOES AROUND.

SO IF SOMEONE'S COMING AND THERE'S CARS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET, YOUR CHANCES OF SEEING THEM ARE SLIM TO NONE.

AND THAT'S AN, UH, YOU KNOW, A CHANCE FOR A HEAD ON COLLISION.

UM, ANOTHER MAJOR ISSUE WE HAVE OVER THERE IS CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS.

UM, THERE WILL BE SEMIS WITH TRACTORS ON THE BACK OF THEM AND THEY WILL COME BARRELING THROUGH THERE.

IF THERE IS ANY CHANCE THAT A KID LIKE CHASED A BALL OUT OF

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THE DRIVE THROUGH IT'S OVER.

I MEAN, IT'S REALLY A BIG CONCERN FOR ME BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE SOMEBODY CHILD GETS HIT AND RUN OVER.

UM, I WILL SAY THAT I HAVE SEEN LIKE IN THE LAST WEEK OR SO I'VE SEEN A FEW MORE PATROL PEOPLE.

I'M A STAY AT HOME MOM, SO I'M HOME MOST DAYS, MAJORITY OF THE DAY.

UM, SO I'VE SEEN LIKE PEOPLE COMING IN AND I'VE ACTUALLY STOPPED TO TALK TO AN OFFICER NOT LONG AFTER WE MOVED IN AND TOLD HIM, LIKE, WE HAVE A MAJOR ISSUE ON THE STREET.

LIKE, CAN WE GET SOME MORE PATROLLING OR WHATEVER? UM, MY MAIN THING, I GUESS, IS WHAT CAN THE RESIDENTS DO FOR THE TIME BEING UNTIL WE'RE ABLE TO GET LIKE, UH, WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, GET SOMEONE OVER THERE 24 SEVEN, OR LIKE, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS JUST LIKE A TIME PRESSING ISSUE.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE HOUSES ARE ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER OVER THERE, THE FRONT YARDS, AREN'T VERY BIG, CAUSE THERE'S NOT MUCH ROOM FOR EFFORT OR NOT MUCH ROOM FOR ERROR WHEN YOU HAVE SMALL KIDS.

SO, UM, I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS YOU CAN WITH WHAT YOU HAVE.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S, IT'S CONSTANT.

I HAVE PEOPLE ON MY CAMERA ALL THE TIME, SPEEDING THROUGH THERE, LIKE GOING WAY TOO FAST, LIKE PROBABLY DOUBLE THE SPEED LIMIT.

SO, AND I KNOW THAT WHEN THE YOUNG MAN IN OUR COMMUNITY GOT RUN DOWN BY A CAR, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT MONTH IT WAS, BUT, UM, I SAW LIKE MORE PATROLLING THEN, UM, THAN NORMAL, I GUESS.

UM, AND THAT'S WHEN I ALSO NOTICED THE PEOPLE OUT THERE ON THE PARKWAY STOPPING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

PEOPLE FLY IN THROUGH THERE, AROUND SOMETIME AROUND THERE.

BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW.

I GUESS I'M JUST LIKE PLEADING FOR HELP BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE MY KID, WHICH I WALKED HER LIKE A HAWK AND I DON'T EVEN LET HER GO PAST THE SIDEWALK, THERE ARE KIDS OUT THERE THAT PARENTS DON'T WATCH THEM.

AND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BE WALKING AROUND A CAR AND SOMEBODY COMES OUT AND HIT YOU.

OR EVEN WHEN WE'RE BIKING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF THERE IS A CAR ON TOP OF THE SIDEWALK, YOU HAVE TO HOP OFF THE SIDEWALK AND GET ON THE ROAD.

LIKE YOU WAIT, THERE'S A CAR FLYING THROUGH MAINE.

IT'S JUST NOT, I FEEL LIKE WE CAN'T ENJOY SO MUCH OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

LIKE I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, RIDE MY BIKE WITHOUT WORRYING THAT SOMEONE'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, RUN US OVER OR WHATEVER.

SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I FEEL DESPERATELY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

UM, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T EIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT IT.

UM, SO I GUESS JUST MY QUESTION IS WHAT CAN WE DO IN THE TIME BEING TO TRY TO HELP THIS AT ALL? OR WHAT, WHAT DO YOU GUYS SUGGEST FROM LIKE A LAW ENFORCEMENT POINT OF VIEW? LET ME TRY TO RE REMEMBER EACH POINT AND ADDRESS.

I THINK YOUR FIRST POINT WAS THE, UH, THE BUS.

SO THAT IS ONE SITUATION WHERE IF A BUS DRIVER ACTUALLY SEES A CAR GO AROUND AND THEY'VE GOT THEIR STOP SIGN OUT AND THEIR LIGHTS ON AND THEY GET A PLATE NUMBER, WE CAN ACTUALLY CITE THEM.

OKAY.

BASED ON WHAT THE BUS DRIVER OBSERVED.

OKAY.

SO THAT IS ONE SITUATION WHERE WE CAN ISSUE A CITATION BASED ON THAT.

OKAY.

AND WE HAVE, AND THEY'VE CALLED IT NOW, YOU KNOW? AND, AND I KNOW WE ALL KNOW WE CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE, SO YOU'LL NEVER HAVE AN OFFICER UP ON YOUR STREET, 24, SEVEN.

I'LL NEVER HAPPEN.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

BUT UNDERSTANDABLY PEOPLE STILL WATCH OUT FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS.

THEY KNOW THEY GET TO KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORS.

THEY GET TO KNOW WHO THE PERSON AND THEIR NECK IS.

USUALLY IT'S SOMEBODY IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S DRIVING THAT WAY.

MY EXPERIENCE, IT'S SOMEBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS EITHER AN ADULT, A TEENAGE KID, WHATEVER.

AND THEY KNOW THAT CAR BELONGS TO THAT ADDRESS.

AND THEY FLY THROUGH HERE.

OKAY.

EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T CITE THEM FOR IT, BUT YOU CAN STILL CALL US AND WE CAN STILL GO TO THE HOUSE.

WE CAN STILL EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT WE GOT A COMPLAINT THAT YOU'RE DRIVING EXCESSIVELY FAST THROUGH HERE.

OKAY.

AND DO YOU NEED TO SLOW DOWN AND EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT COULD BE THE, THE, THE, UH, CIRCUMSTANCES AND WHAT CIRCUMSTANCE THEY COULD FACE IF THEY DID HIT SOMEBODY? RIGHT.

SO DON'T THINK JUST BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THERE AND WE CAN'T CITE SOMEBODY FOR IT THAT WE STILL CAN'T MAKE CONTACT WITH THEM AND TALK TO THEM AND TELL THEM WHAT THE COMPLAINT IS.

BECAUSE WE DO GET THAT WHERE PEOPLE CALL AND THEY IDENTIFY THE HOUSE, THE CAR BELONGS TO, AND WE'VE GONE AND TALKED TO THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE.

OKAY.

SO DO THAT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT.

UM, THAT'S EASY.

YOU CALL US, LET US KNOW.

WE GO OUT THERE AND WE TALKED TO THE CREW, WE TALKED TO THE FOREMAN AND WE'D LET THEM KNOW, LISTEN, WE GOT A COMPLAINT ON YOUR TRUCKS DRIVING TOO FAST.

YOU NEED TO TELL THEM TO SLOW DOWN.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND WE'LL DO THAT.

AND HOWEVER MANY TIMES SEND ME AN EMAIL.

I MEAN, I GET EMAILS ALL THE TIME FROM PEOPLE AND I'LL USUALLY FORWARD THEM OFF TO THE PATROL LIEUTENANT.

HE'LL MAKE SURE IT'S GREAT.

HAVING SOMEBODY SEND IT OFF.

AND THEN HE'LL, UH, HE'LL ASSIGN IT OUT TO WHOEVER'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT AREA AND SAY, YOU KNOW, GO OUT AND MAKE CONTACT, LET THEM KNOW.

SO DON'T FEEL LIKE JUST BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A POLICE CAR SITTING THERE.

CAUSE IF THERE WAS, AND THEY WOULDN'T BE SPEEDING.

I MEAN, IF WE'RE SITTING THERE, THEY PROBABLY WON'T BE SPEEDING.

IT.

CAN WE GET LUCKY SOMETIMES AND JUST HAPPENED TO BE DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD, HAVING

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A MOVING RADAR ON AND GET THEM.

YEAH.

THAT'S, THAT'S LUCKY WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

YEAH.

BUT YOU KNOW, TOO, WHEN YOU'RE SITTING SOMEWHERE AND WE SIT STATIONARY SOMEWHERE, WHAT DO YOU USUALLY SEE FROM THE TRAFFIC COMING AT? YOU, YOU SEE IN BRIGHTEN THEIR LIGHTS TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THERE'S A POLICE CAR UP HERE.

OKAY.

SO THE SAME PEOPLE, SOMETIMES THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT PEOPLE.

SPEEDING.

GIVE THE SPEEDERS WARNING THAT WE'RE SITTING DOWN THERE, RUN A TRAFFIC.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE DEAL WITH TOO.

WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME TOO.

THEY BROUGHT PEOPLE IN AND DO ALL THAT.

SO JUST DON'T GET THE MINDSET AND LET YOUR NEIGHBORS KNOW THAT IF YOU SEE A VIOLATION AND YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT CAR BELONGS, DON'T HESITATE TO CALL.

I KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE.

CAUSE I WENT TO THEIR HOUSE.

BEFORE YOU LEAVE HERE, LET THE PATROL LIEUTENANT KNOW WHERE THAT IS.

WE'LL SEE.

AND AN OFFICER OUT AND TALK TO THE FAMILY AND TELL THEM THAT WE'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL COMPLAINTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT YOU SPEEDING THROUGH HERE.

AND IT NEEDS TO STOP.

HOW DID THAT TONIGHT? OKAY.

PICTURES ON MY PHONE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WHAT WILL HELP IS IF AGAIN, IT'S AWARENESS.

AND IF WE HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO AREN'T AFRAID TO STEP UP AND SAY SOMETHING THAT FRUSTRATES THEM, CONCERNS THEM.

AND WHEN WE KNOW WE'VE GOT THE RESOURCES TO CALL, FILE THAT COMPLAINT, SO OUR POLICE CAN GO ADDRESS IT.

THAT COULD GO A LONG WAY AND REALLY STOPPING, BUT RIGHT.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BEING ACTIVE.

WHEN WE SEE SOMETHING WE DON'T LIKE WHERE IT'S BREAKING THE LAW, THEN WE HAVE TO NOT BE AFRAID TO CALL AND MAKE SOMEBODY AWARE OF THAT.

BECAUSE IT, THEN, AS CHIEF SAID, THEN ONCE THEY'RE AWARE OF IT, THEN THEY CAN DO THEIR JOB.

THEN THEY CAN, THEY CAN BE ACTIVE AND THEY CAN START TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

SO I THINK THE LESSON REALLY IN THAT SCENARIO IS FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW, IF YOU SEE SOMETHING GOING ON THAT YOU DON'T LIKE, AND IN THAT REGARD, PLEASE CALL SOMEBODY.

DON'T BE AFRAID TO MAKE A COMPLAINT.

UM, AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE KIND OF LIKE, WELL, IT'S NOT MY BUSINESS, OR I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A COMPLAINT WHEN THEY FIND OUT IT'S ME.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT REASONS WHY THEY DON'T.

BUT AS A COMMUNITY, IF WE'RE TIRED OF THIS, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO DO THAT AND TAKE A STAND AND MAKE SURE WE'RE LETTING THE PROPER PEOPLE KNOW WHEN THE POLICE KNOW.

SO WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

REGISTRATION WILL BE TAKEN AND WE HAVE ACCESS TO FOUR, UM, UH, RING DOORBELLS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, UH, CAMERAS ON THE HOUSE.

SO IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, AND THIS IS FOR EVERYBODY LISTENING TO THAT MIGHT BE LISTENING, CALL INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, LET THEM KNOW YOUR ADDRESS, WHERE YOU HAVE A CAMERA.

BECAUSE HOW THAT HELPS US IS IF WE HAVE A CRIME OCCUR SOMEWHERE, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT LIST TO SEE WHO HAS CAMERAS.

AND WE'LL IN OUR, FOLLOW-UP IN, IN, IN WHEN WE CAN LISTEN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'LL GO TO THOSE HOUSES AND ASK TO VIEW THEIR CAMERAS.

THEY MIGHT EVEN KNOW THEY RECORDED SO RIGHT.

EVERYBODY HAS CAMERAS.

SO, UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WE COULD CALL AND JUST LIKE, HAVE YOU GUYS GO SAY SOMETHING TO THEM? UM, CAUSE USUALLY WHEN I FOUND OUT WHO IT IS, I GO TO THEIR HOUSE AND TAKE A PICTURE OF THEIR TAG AND THEN, UH, I'LL GO BACK TO LIKE ABOUT THE TIME IT WAS ON MY OWN, MY CAMERAS AND I LIKE STATE SAY THAT ON MY RING APP.

SO, UM, YEAH.

I FEEL LIKE THAT.

I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD HELP.

I DO ALSO FEEL LIKE WHEN YOU'RE TICKETED, LIKE WHEN SOMETHING PERSONALLY AFFECTS YOU, THEN IT'S AN ISSUE.

SO LIKE IF THEY'RE TICKETED, THEY'RE GOING TO SLOW DOWN CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY A TICKET AGAIN.

I'M JUST SAYING, IF YOU GUYS CATCH IT IS, AND THIS IS, THIS IS JUST SOMETHING I NEED TO GET OUT BECAUSE I HAVE SO MUCH WANTING TO GET IT OUT.

UM, SO MEDIA, A SOCIAL MEDIA, I CAN'T STAND SOCIAL MEDIA DRIVES ME NUTS, BUT PLEASE FOR EVERYBODY, IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE, IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, IF AN OFFICER COMES OUT TO YOUR HOUSE AND YOU DON'T THINK THE OFFICER HANDLED IT THE WAY YOU THOUGHT THEY SHOULD, MAYBE THE OFFICER CAME TO YOUR HOUSE AND SAID, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.

EVEN THOUGH I STOOD HERE AND TOLD YOU THEY CAN GO DOWN AND TALK TO HIM.

BUT FOR SOME REASON THE OFFICER WAS BUSY.

I DON'T KNOW.

MAYBE HE JUST DIDN'T DO WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO, HE OR SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO.

DON'T GET ON FACEBOOK AND JUST COMPLAIN TO EVERYBODY ON FACEBOOK, CALL IN AND TALK TO US AND LET THE SUPERVISOR KNOW THAT I WAS AT A TOWN HALL MEETING.

THE POLICE CHIEF SAID, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO DOWN AND TALK TO THEM AND YOU CAN'T OKAY.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN EVERY OFFICER'S GOING TO DO THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND IF THEY DON'T, I JUST TOO MANY PEOPLE, I THINK THEIR FIRST RESPONSE WHEN THEY DON'T LIKE THE WAY SOMETHING WAS HANDLED AS THEY GO TO SOCIAL MEDIA AND THEY START TELLING EVERYBODY ABOUT IT, AND THEN YOU GET EVERYBODY, ALL THOSE GENIUSES AS NO POLICE WORK.

CAUSE THEY'VE BEEN IN IT FOR SO MANY YEARS, THEY START TELLING HIM, OKAY.

INSTEAD OF CALLING US, YOU KNOW, THEN I GET A CALL FROM MY BOSS.

WHAT ABOUT THIS? AND IT'S LIKE, I DON'T, THEY NEVER CALLED US.

SO I HAVE NO IDEA.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO I JUST URGE PEOPLE.

I JUST URGE PEOPLE JUST CALL US.

I MEAN, DON'T BE AFRAID TO CALL US AND SAY, YOU KNOW, HEY, I DON'T, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE AND WE'LL LOOK INTO IT AND WE'VE TENDED TO LOOK INTO IT AND IT, IT, THINGS WILL GET DONE INSTEAD OF JUST GOING OVER AND OVER AND

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OVER ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

IS THERE A CERTAIN, LIKE JUST A NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER THAT WE SHOULD CALL? YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

APPRECIATE YOU, UH, STEPPING UP AND TALKING TO US.

I WON'T STURGEON.

I LIVE UP IN CARRIAGE TRAILS AND UM, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT A FEW OF THE THINGS.

MY CONCERNS.

IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE SPEEDING.

IT'S NOT SO MUCH TO SPEEDING ON THE PARKWAY.

IT'S THE RECKLESS SPEEDING AND RECKLESS OPERATION IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS OFF OF THE PARKWAY.

SO IF WE DO THOSE SIGNS AGAIN, THOSE SPEED DETECTION SIGNS, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, NOT ON THE PARKWAY.

WE PUT THEM FOR A WHILE AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE DATES.

I KNOW WE HAD SOME COMPLAINTS ON SENATE AND, UH, WE, WE DID PUT THEM OUT ON CENTER.

IF WE GET A COMPLAINT, IF YOU CALL IN AND YOU GIVE US, UH, LAKESIDE, WHATEVER STREET YOU SAY, THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH IT.

WE'VE GOT A LIST OF DIFFERENT PLACES AND WE PUT THEM OUT FOR A PERIOD OF MAYBE A WEEK, BUT WE CAN MOVE THEM ALL AROUND.

RIGHT.

I MEAN, THEY'RE PORTABLE.

WE CAN PUT THEM ON A POLE, MOVE THEM AROUND.

WE JUST TOOK THEM DOWN FROM TROWBRIDGE.

UH, WE HAD THEM UP ON TROWBRIDGE, UH, UH, BETWEEN SHAWL AND, UH, CHARLES GATE.

WE HAD THEM UP THERE FOR A WEEK TO, TO MONITOR TRAFFIC.

SO YEAH, IF THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD, IF THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL STREET, UM, THAT'S HARD FOR US TO, AND WE CAN GO SIT OUT THERE.

BUT LIKE I SAID, PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO SPEED UP OUR POLICE CAR SITTING THERE.

UH, WE CAN AT LEAST COLLECT SOME DATA AND SEE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS AND WHEN THE PROBLEM TIMES WE HAVE TO, BUT WE'RE ORDERING WE'RE, WE'RE BUDGETED THIS YEAR TO ORDER TWO MORE.

UM, WE ALSO I'VE INSTRUCTED THE ANOTHER LIEUTENANT.

WHO'S LOOKING INTO IT TO LOOK AT THE COST OF A PERMANENT, BECAUSE THEY ALSO HAVE PERMANENT ONES THAT ARE SOLAR GENERATED POWER, WHERE IF THERE'S SOME PLACE, UH, LIKE CARRIE'S CHARLES PARKWAY, BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A LONG ROADWAY CONNECTING EAST AND WEST, THAT IT, MAYBE THERE'S A PERMANENT SPOT.

WE CAN PUT ONE, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT STAYS THERE AND IT'LL FLASH AND IT'LL SAY SLOW DOWN.

AND YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE COST OF PERMANENT AS OPPOSED TO TWO MORE MOBILES AND BEING ABLE TO MOVE.

SO WE, WE HAVE TWO RIGHT NOW.

YES.

UM, HOW ABOUT ONES THAT ARE ALSO EQUIPPED WITH A CAMERA? I KNOW THE STATE OF OHIO JUST MADE THAT MORE DIFFICULT BY REMOVING THE FRONT LICENSE PLATE, BUT, UM, YEAH.

WE'D LIKE PEOPLE TO THINK THAT IS THERE, THERE'S A CAMERA ON IT.

OKAY.

UM, COUPLE OTHER THINGS OR ONE OTHER THING, I GUESS, UH, IN REFERENCE TO THE ROUNDABOUTS RATHER THAN SIGNS.

UM, AND I KNOW WE HAVE LONG WINTERS, BUT I'D LIKE TO JUST SEE THEM PAINTED JUST ARROWS PAINTED IN THE ROUNDABOUTS, UH, INSTEAD OF SIGNS TO KEEP IT DOWN FROM SOME OF THAT SIGN POLLUTION.

SO IT'S ALL GOOD.

I'M WELL, HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING? UM, I LIVE ON LEEWOOD DRIVE AND I LIVE BETWEEN HARSHMAN VILLE AND MONTAGUE.

AND THAT IS AN EXTRAORDINARILY STRAIGHT STRIP THAT SEEMS LATELY TO BE, UH, A HIGH-SPEED ZONE WHERE THEY, THEY HIT THE GAS AS SOON AS THEY TURN ON LEAWOOD AND THEY DON'T SLOW DOWN.

SO THEY ALMOST GET TO MONTAGUE.

AND WE'VE GOT ALMOST 25 CHILDREN IN THAT STRETCH OF THERE AT LAST COUNT.

AND WE JUST HAD A NEW FAMILY MOVE IN.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY KIDS THEY'VE GOT, BUT THERE'S KIDS OUT THERE PLAYING, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BASKETBALL HOOPS NEAR THE STREET, THEY'RE PLAYING OUT THERE.

THEY'RE DOING, UH, CHEERLEADING STUFF IN THE STREET THE OTHER NIGHT.

AND THERE'S SOMEBODY ON A MOTORCYCLE.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE LIVES, BUT I WISH I COULD FIND HIM.

HE PROBABLY IS DOING 65.

UH, BY THE TIME HE GETS OUT OF GEAR, UM, ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF THE WAY UP TOWARDS MY HOUSE.

I'VE BEEN OUT FRONT THERE.

AND BY THE TIME I WALK OUT TO HOLLER AT HIM TO SLOW DOWN, THEY'RE GONE.

I TRY TO GET IN THE CAR AND FIND THEM.

I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY'RE GOING.

THEY TURN UP MONTAGUE.

THEY GO BACK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SOMETIMES THEY GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SIT AT, BUT THERE'S ONE CAR, I THINK, LIVES DOWN NEAR CITADEL, BUT I CAN NEVER CATCH HIM ACTUALLY STOPPING AT THE HOUSE.

BUT WE'VE HAD ACCIDENTS ON THEIR STREETS SINCE I'VE LIVED THERE.

WE HAD A CAR THAT WENT UP IN SOMEONE'S DRIVEWAY AND SLAMMED THEIR CAR THROUGH THEIR GARAGE.

WE HAD ANOTHER ONE THAT HIT A TRUCK AND ALMOST HIT A HOUSE WHERE KIDS WERE SLEEPING IN THE CORNER BEDROOM A FEW YEARS BACK.

AND THAT HOUSE WAS ADDRESSED.

YOU GUYS CAME OUT AND TOOK CARE OF THAT FOR US WAS A LOT OF DRUGS AND ALCOHOL GOING ON DOWN THERE.

AND THAT HOUSE GOT CLEARED OUT, BUT IT'S, IT'S STARTING TO COME BACK AGAIN.

I DON'T THINK THEY LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THEY LIVE NEAR THE NEIGHBORHOOD SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

AND IT'S JUST NON-STOP WELL, WE'LL PUT LIEUTENANTS WRITING DOWN ALL THE LOCATIONS WHERE PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY'RE HAVING ISSUES WITH, UH, SPEED AND, UH, OR ANY OTHER ISSUES.

AND WE'LL MAKE A LIST FOR THE SPEED MEASURING DEVICES, BUT WHAT, WHAT AREA WOULD BE THE BEST TO PUT, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TWO OF THEM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT ONE ON THE STREET OR WE CAN PUT ONE ON ONE AND ONE ON THE OTHER, GETTING BOTH SIDES.

IS THERE ONE DIRECTION OF TRAVEL THAT, THAT GENERALLY IS, IS TYPICALLY THEY'RE COMING DOWN AND THEY'RE TURNING OFF HARSH MINVILLE AND THEN THEY HIT THE GAS AND GO FLYING UP TOWARDS MONTAGUE.

OKAY.

WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET IT OUT THERE.

THANK YOU.

HEY, CRYSTAL GOLF

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HAVE THE VINE PACKER DRIVE LIKE THE SOUTHERN SIDE, CLOSEST TO THE PARK.

SO THAT STOPPED SIGN AT PACKARD AND KITTRIDGE HAS BECOME ALMOST LIKE IT DOESN'T EVEN EXIST ANYMORE.

CARS ARE CONSTANTLY RUNNING THROUGH THE STOP SIGN.

THEY DON'T EVEN SLOW DOWN ANYMORE.

SO THEY USED TO SLOW DOWN AND KIND OF PAUSE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, GLIDE ON THROUGH.

BUT NOW IF THEY'RE COMING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GO OUT TOWARDS BRAND, THEY JUST KEEP GOING.

UM, AND THEN THAT SOUTH SIDE OF PACKARD, WHERE WE HAPPEN TO LIVE, WHEN THEY'RE COMING FROM THEY'RE COMING DOWN THE HILL, THEY'RE LITERALLY GOING SO FAST.

THAT HALF THE TIME WE DON'T EVEN SEE THEM.

AND THERE'S THREE HOUSES WHERE THEY COULD TRIANGLE SHAPE OF EACH OTHER THAT ALL HAVE KIDS, THAT'LL BE OUTSIDE PLAYING.

AND HALF THE TIME THE CARS WON'T EVEN HESITATE.

THEY STILL WANT TO KEEP GOING.

UM, I KNOW ONE OF THE VEHICLES LIVES TWO HOUSES DOWN.

ME AND HIS MOM HAD BOTH GOTTEN ON HIM.

BUT HONESTLY, THESE KIDS, THE YOUNG KIDS, WHEN THEY'RE DRIVING, IT'S A GAME TO THEM.

EVEN IF YOU GUYS CATCH THEM, THEY NORMALLY, THEY DON'T STOP.

SO ME AND ONE OF MY OTHER NEIGHBORS WERE THINKING ABOUT WHAT IF THE CITY STARTS INVESTING IN SPEED BUMPS ON SOME OF THOSE SIDE STREETS WHERE THE SPEEDING IS A PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE A LOT OF KIDS IN SUCH A SMALL VICINITY OF EACH OTHER.

I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT HELP, ESPECIALLY LIKE ON OUR END, WHEN THEY'RE COMING DOWN THE HILL, IF THEY HIT A SPEED BUMP GOING 45 TO 50 MILES AN HOUR, EVENTUALLY THEY'RE GOING TO TEAR THEIR CAR UP.

HOPEFULLY THEY'LL GET THE PICTURE AND THEY'LL STOP.

BUT SEE, BEFORE I LET THE CITY ENGINEER ADDRESS, BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE AND YOU HOVER OVER GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, ON THE HEADERS AND YOU GO OVER TO ENGINEERING AND THEN THAT COMES UP AND ON THE LEFT SIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT GREEN OR BLUE, I THINK BLUE COLUMN SPEED BUMPS.

YOU CAN CLICK ON IT.

AND THERE'S A WELL HERE AT THIS.

UM, IT'LL SAY ALL THE REASONS WHY WE DON'T ASK.

OKAY.

BUT LET ME TELL YOU WAYS WE CAN HANDLE IT.

THE STOP SIGN THING.

OKAY.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

A LOT OF KIDS AND A LOT OF ADULTS REALLY DON'T CARE.

NOW THEY DON'T, UM, A LOT LESS RESPECT FOR POLICE NOWADAYS THAN THERE USED TO BE YEARS AGO.

OKAY.

SO, BUT THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS WE CAN DO.

YOU KNOW, THE SPEED MEASURING DEVICES, AREN'T GOING TO DO A THING FOR STOP SIGNS.

OKAY.

BUT WE CAN DO WHAT WE CALL EXTRA PATROL.

SO WHAT THE LIEUTENANT DOES IS HE PUT US OUT AN EXTRA PATROL IN THE PORTAL SO THAT WHEN THE OFFICERS SIGN IN ON THEIR COMPUTER, IN THEIR CAR AND THEY SEE THE EXTRA PATROL IN THEIR BEAT, THEY CLICK ON IT.

THEY SEE WHAT IT IS, WHERE THE EXTRA PATROL IS THAT WAS PUT IN.

AND THEN THEY KNOW WHEN THEY HAVE FREE TIME AWAY FROM CALLS FOR SERVICE TO TARGET THOSE AREAS.

OKAY.

THE OTHER THING WE CAN DO, IF IT BECOMES A MAJOR PROBLEM AND YOU SAY IT IS NOW IS WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A TARGETED ENFORCEMENT EFFORT.

SO WE CAN, LET'S SAY WE HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT AREAS WE WANT TO HIT.

LIKE I EXPLAINED EARLIER, WE CAN PULL SOME OFFICERS IN JUST TO TARGET THOSE AREAS.

IT'S LIKE A TRAFFIC UNIT, BUT IT ONLY EXISTS FOR MAYBE A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS.

MAYBE THEY MIGHT TAKE A FOUR HOUR TIME PERIOD AND JUST HIT THAT, THEN MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE.

OKAY.

SO WE, WE CAN ADDRESS.

I CAN TELL YOU THE WORST DAYS ARE THURSDAY, FRIDAYS, AND SATURDAYS ARE THE WORST.

AND IT'S NORMALLY, ALWAYS AFTER NINE 30 AT NIGHT.

SO DON'T ASK ME.

I DO.

UM, AND THE OTHER THING IS, I KNOW HOW BUSY YOU GUYS ARE.

WE ARE CONSTANTLY HAVING TO CALL YOU GUYS OUT TO OUR STREET BECAUSE WE HAVE A DRUG HOUSE, TWO HOUSES FROM US, BUT YOU GUYS ARE CONSTANTLY THERE.

AND HALF THE TIME WHEN THERE'S A SERIOUS ISSUE, IT'S HARD TO GET YOU GUYS TO COME OUT BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE.

SO SHORT-STAFFED A LOT OF US UNDERSTAND THAT AND SEE THAT WE'RE REALLY, WE'RE REALLY NOT SHORT-STAFFED OKAY.

WHEN I SEE SHORT-STAFFED IS A, IS IT'S SO EASY FOR A POLICE CHIEF TO STAND UP AND SAY, I'M SHORT-STAFFED I NEED MORE PEOPLE.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO I GET MORE PEOPLE.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS I CAN DO MORE THINGS, PROACTIVELY REACTIVELY.

I'M RESPONDING TO CALLS, WE'LL GET THAT DONE WITH HOW I DON'T CARE, HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAVE, WE'LL GET THAT DONE.

OKAY.

BECAUSE EVEN IF WE HAVE TO COVER A SHIFT WITH OVERTIME, WE STILL HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO COVER THE STREETS AND RESPOND TO CALLS.

OKAY.

THE PROBLEM IS THE ARGUMENT FOR MORE PEOPLE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH REACTION TO THINGS THAT OCCUR.

BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAVE, OUR REACTION TIME IS GOING TO BE GOOD AND WE ARE GOING TO RESPOND.

BUT WHERE, WHERE WE WANT TO GET IS INTO PROACTIVE THINGS SO THAT WE CAN DO TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, MAYBE A NARCOTICS DRUG UNIT, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO.

SO WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO RESPOND, TO CALLS, TO CALLS FOR SERVICE.

OKAY.

NOW WE'RE DOWN RIGHT NOW, LIKE SIX OFFICERS.

CAUSE THEY ALL, YOU KNOW, THE FIVE RETIRED, BUT WE STILL HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF OFFICERS ON THE STREET.

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OKAY.

WE'RE JUST COVERING SOME WITH OVERTIME, RIGHT? YEAH.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT OUR RESPONSE TIMES, TIME TO CALL IT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WE STILL GET THEM OUT THERE.

THERE'S JUST LESS PROACTIVE THINGS WE CAN DO.

YES.

OKAY.

SO YEAH, I, WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE SAY ABOUT BEING, BEING UNDERSTAFFED, THEN I THINK PEOPLE GET IN THEIR MIND LIKE, WELL, THEY'RE UNDERSTAFFED AND THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING TO.

WELL, I THINK A LOT OF IT IS TOO IS LIKE, WE ARE A LOT DIFFERENT NOW, LIKE YOU SAID, THAN IN THE NINETIES, EVEN FROM WHEN I WAS YOUNGER IN THE LATE NINETIES TO NOW, LIKE OUR CITY'S INCREASED, LIKE THE POPULATION IS CRAZY.

UM, MORE SO NOW THAN IT WAS EVEN WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER.

SO, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THERE'S LIKE A NEED FOR MORE OF YOU OUT THERE, BUT OH YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY MORE PROACTIVE THINGS WE COULD DO TO HELP.

YOU KNOW, ONE THING WE DO THAT REALLY HELPS IS THE ONE WE PUT TWO SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS IN THE SCHOOL, ONE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL, ONE IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT HELPED TREMENDOUSLY BECAUSE THAT TOOK A BEAT CAR FROM HAVING TO RESPOND TO THE HIGH SCHOOL OR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

EVERY TIME THERE WAS A THEFT, A FIGHT, OR THEY TAKE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS DOWN THERE.

THOSE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS ARE BUSY.

SO THAT TAKES SOME TIME OFF OF THE ROAD OFFICERS TO HAVE TO RESPOND TO THINGS IN THE SCHOOL THAT WAS BIG, HAVING A SCHOOL RESOURCE AND IS BIG BECAUSE IT PUTS A UNIFORMED OFFICER IN THE SCHOOL KIDS WHERE THEY CAN KIND OF MORE, SOME KIDS CAN MAYBE RELATE TO HIM BETTER AS A PERSON, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY DON'T SEE US AS PEOPLE BECAUSE WE'RE IN A CAR AND WE GOT OUR SUNGLASSES ON ROLLING DOWN THE STREET, YOU KNOW, AND THEY INTIMIDATED BY THAT.

LIKE, THEY'RE NOT APPROACHABLE.

AND WE ARE APPROACHABLE SOME OF US MORE THAN OTHERS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WITH ANYBODY.

SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE APPROACHABLE THAN OTHERS, BUT THAT'S JUST ONE PROACTIVE THING WE DO.

BUT IF WE EVER GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN HAVE A TRAFFIC SERVICES UNIT THAT DOES THINGS LIKE THAT AND ADDRESSES THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TOO.

WE HAVE AN OFFICER ASSIGNED TO THE DEA TASK FORCE, WHICH IS A PROACTIVE THING.

SO WE'D BENEFIT FROM THAT TOO.

NOT JUST FINANCIALLY AND SEIZED MONEY AND SEIZED ASSETS, BUT WE, WE, IF WE HAVE SOME OCCURRING IN OUR CITY IN A LARGE SCALE DRUG ACTIVITY, WE HAVE AN OFFICER ASSIGNED TO THE DEA TASK FORCE THAT WE'VE GOT RESOURCES IN THE DA TO COME HERE AND DO WORK.

SO THERE IS OTHER THINGS THAT WE ARE INVOLVED IN AND THERE'S SO MUCH MORE WE CAN GET INVOLVED.

OKAY.

HI, I'M JERRY JOHNSON.

AND I LIVE ON SHAR STEAD CIRCLE.

THE PLATTE THAT IS CROSSED FROM WAL-MART STONYHURST IS OUR MAIN STREET.

AND WE, A FEW YEARS AGO, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS HAD COME TO THE MEETINGS AND ASKED FOR A STOP SIGN TO BE PUT AT STONE, HEARST AND SERPENTINE.

IT'S A CIRCLE.

SERPENTINI SAYS, WELL, THEY CHOSE NOT TO DO THAT.

THEY PUT IT DOWN AT STONEBRIDGE AND STONE HEARST.

I GO DOWN THERE EVERY DAY, DOWN THAT ROAD, ALMOST EVERY SINGLE TIME I GO, THERE'S SOMEBODY RUNNING THAT STOP SIGN BECAUSE IT'S ONLY ONE STREET THAT COMES OUT THERE AND IT COMES OUT ONTO STONYHURST AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THERE, I DON'T CARE WHETHER THEY'RE OLDER OR YOUNGER, THEY DO NOT STOP.

WE ARE CALLED THE ROLLING STOP SIGN CITY.

I'VE HAD OTHER PEOPLE SAY THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T STOP AT OUR STOP SIGNS.

YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FLASHING SPEED THINGS.

CAN YOU GET FLASHING? STOP SIGNS THAT CALL THE ATTENTION.

I HAVE ONE THAT I'VE SEEN BRIDGEWATER AND TAYLOR COME DOWN BRIDGEWATER UP TO TAYLORSVILLE.

YOU'LL SEE THAT ONE.

OH YES, YES.

I'VE SEEN THAT.

YES.

AND IT'S GOOD AT NIGHT.

IT'S A REALLY GOOD STONYHURST.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND THAT STOP SIGN WAS A WASTE OF MONEY BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T STOP.

THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.

THEY COME.

I MEAN, I STOPPED BECAUSE THERE'S A STOP SIGN FOR ME TO STOP AND THEM TO STOP.

AND I STOP.

AND THE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF STONEBRIDGE, JUST ROLL RIGHT ON THROUGH, MAKE A LEFT HAND, TURN, GO OUT TO WALMART, YOU KNOW, AND THE SPEEDERS, UH, I HAVE, I'M THE SECOND HOUSE IN OUR CUL-DE-SAC.

I SIT OUT FRONT, I WATCHED THE SPEEDERS GO DOWN THE STREET.

I MEAN, ALL THE TIME, WE'VE HAD TWO IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE HAD TWO ACCIDENTS AT THE ENTRANCE TO OUR CUL-DE-SAC ON STONYHURST BECAUSE OF SPEEDERS BECAUSE OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T WATCH, YOU KNOW, AND WE REALLY NEED MORE ATTENTION.

I REALLY BELIEVE THAT.

I MEAN, WE'RE, IF YOU GO DOWN AND STONE, HERS TO BIRCH HIM, THERE'S A SCHOOL RIGHT THERE.

YOU KNOW? I MEAN, RUSHMORE IS THERE.

MY DAUGHTER WENT THERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DON'T STOP ALL THE TIME.

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THEY'RE EITHER.

AND IF YOU PUT POLICEMAN OUT THERE, THEY NEED TO BE WHERE THOSE STOP SIGNS ARE CLOSE TO IT, WHERE THEY CAN SEE THE PEOPLE RUNNING IT, YOU KNOW? AND AGAIN, LIKE I, LIKE I TOLD EVERYONE ELSE AND WE'VE JOTTED YOUR ADDRESS DOWN TO, IN YOUR AREA TO, TO DO ENFORCEMENT.

UM, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD PUT AN OFFICER AT EVERY, OH, WOULDN'T IT BE? AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO JUST GLIDE THROUGH THE STOP SIGN OF A POLICE CAR SITTING.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

NOW, ARE WE GOING TO GET LUCKY SOMETIMES AND AN OFFICER'S DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD AND SEES IT AND STOPS HIM? YES.

OKAY.

AND WE CAN DO SOME TARGETED ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE KNOW AS OFFICERS THAT WE CAN'T STOP ALL OF THE SPEEDING.

THERE WAS PEOPLE THAT SPED IN THE NINETIES WHEN I WAS ON THE STREET AND THERE'S PEOPLE THAT SPEED TODAY.

RIGHT.

AND PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, INCLUDING MYSELF HAVE SPENT, OKAY, PEOPLE SPEAK, IT'S HUMAN NATURE.

THEY SPEED THE, LOOK DOWN THEIR SPIN ON HER AND BE LIKE, OH MY GOSH, I DIDN'T REALIZE I WAS GOING THAT FAST.

OKAY.

NOW THAT'S NOT AN EXCUSE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL CATCH THEIR SELF AND SLOW DOWN.

SOME PEOPLE DON'T CARE.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

AND IT'S THOSE PEOPLE THAT DON'T CARE ARE THE ONES THAT WE WANT TO STOP AND TICKET THE ONES THAT DON'T CARE.

RIGHT.

AND THERE ARE A LOT AND THERE'S A LOT, THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT STUFF.

WELL, THE SPEEDING ON BRENT PIKE.

OKAY.

THEY RUN THAT RED LIGHT AT WALMART.

I MEAN, THAT'S, IT'S CRAZY.

UH, MY NEIGHBOR WAS HIT BROADSIDED JUST A MONTH AGO.

SHE WAS COMING OUT OF WALMART AND THIS LADY RAN RIGHT THROUGH THE RED LIGHT.

YEAH.

IT DIDN'T EVEN STOP.

I CAN SHOW YOU OVER THE 30 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE.

THEN I CAN, I COULDN'T VISIT AN OLD COMPUTER SYSTEM THEN, OR THE ONE IN THE COMPUTER THEN.

BUT, UM, THE NUMBER OF TICKETS THAT WE'VE WRITTEN OR JUST US TWO ALONE, PROBABLY WRITTEN ON AND TROY PIKE, I MEAN, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A PRIMARY ROAD WHERE PEOPLE HAVE SPED.

YOU'LL SEE OFFICER'S UP AND DOWN THERE.

CAUSE THAT'S HOW WE GET FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES BACK AND FORTH.

SO YOUR CHANCES OF GETTING RUNNING INTO AN OFFICER'S PRETTY, PRETTY, UH, GOOD BRAND OR TROY, UH, PASSING OFFICER, IF YOU'RE SPEEDING RIGHT NOW, HERE'S THE OTHER THING.

MOST PEOPLE CAN GO OUT AND SPEED AND GET AWAY WITH, BECAUSE WHAT'S THE ODDS YOU'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY PASS A POLICE OFFICER.

YOU HAPPEN TO PASS ONE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHILE YOU'RE SPEEDING.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO GET AWAY WITH THEM MORE THAN YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET AWAY.

OKAY.

BUT SOMEDAY IT'S GOING TO CATCH UP TO YOU.

ANY, A COUPLE OF THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN.

ONE, YOU'RE GOING TO GET CAUGHT HERE AND GET TICKETED, OR YOU'RE GOING TO GET IN AN ACCIDENT OR YOU'RE GOING TO HURT SOMEBODY OR KILL SOMEBODY.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S WHAT TRYING TO STOP.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO STOP THAT.

THAT'S, I MEAN, WE STILL HAVE ACCIDENTS TODAY, JUST LIKE WE USED TO HAVE, CONTINUE TO HAPPEN, BUT WE'LL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO LIMIT THAT AND LIMIT THAT POSSIBILITY FROM HAPPENING.

OKAY.

KNOWING THAT WE CAN'T CATCH EVERYBODY.

OKAY.

BUT IF YOU ARE SITTING OUT ON YOUR PATIO AND YOU SEE PEOPLE DOING THIS ON AND ON CALL IN, OKAY.

SEND ME AN EMAIL OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER AND SAY, LISTEN, CAN YOU, CAN YOU MAYBE DO A LITTLE EXTRA PATROL DOWN HERE? THEY'RE RUNNING IT.

THIS IS THE TIME OF DAY.

IT'S