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ALL RIGHT.

GOOD

[ AGENDA CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION Remote Meeting December 3, 2020 7:00 P.M. ]

EVENING, EVERYONE.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

OKAY.

SEVEN OH THREE.

GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING OF THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY ACTION COMMISSION.

UH, KATIE, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL MR. REAGAN, MISS HONAKER PRESENT MR. STEVENS.

MR. RAMIREZ, MR. RICHARDSON, COME HERE MS. STEVENS, MS. SIMONE PRESENT.

AND PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT YOUR, UH, ERIC STEVENS AND YOLANDA STEPHENS ARE EXCUSED.

THEY WILL BE ATTENDING THE MEETING, JOINING THE MEETING LATER.

UM, HAS EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK OVER THE MINUTES FROM THE NOTES NOVEMBER 5TH MEETING? SHOULD WE NOT APPROVE THE AGENDA FIRST? I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT.

I DIDN'T LET ME GO BACK AND DO THAT IS I NEED TO ACTUALLY GET PERMISSION TO CARRY THE MEETING FORWARD SINCE I AM THE VICE CHAIR.

SO, UM, LET ME GO AHEAD AND GO BACK AND DO THAT.

IF SOMEONE WOULD MAKE A MOTION FOR ME TO GO AHEAD AND SHARE THE MEETING IN THE ABSENCE OF OUR CHAIR PERSON, VICE CHAIR, I MOVE THAT YOU WOULD PRESIDE OVER THE MEETING IN THE ABSENCE OF CARE OR THIS EVENING.

OKAY.

AND IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? THE MOTION WAS MADE AND CARRIED.

UM, I'M SORRY.

THE MOTION WAS MADE IN SPECKING IT.

KATIE, COULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? YES.

MS. PRESENT, MR. RAMIREZ, YOU PRESENT MR. RICHARDSON? I'M HERE MS. SEMILLON, MR. AKINS, CORRECT? CORRECT.

I THINK WE'RE ALL SUPPOSED TO BE SAYING HI AND NOT PRESENT VOTING FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.

YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A PROBLEM IN EVERY ISSUE, BUT, UH, I VOTE YES.

START IT OFF.

OKAY.

SO, UM, THE, I, THEY CARRY THE MOST OR THE YESES CARRY THE MOTION, CORRECT? YES.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE MOTION, ALTHOUGH IT HAS ALREADY PASSED, WOULD IT NOT BE INCUMBENT IN THE CHARGE OF THE, THE CULTURE TO STAND IN THE ABSENCE OF THE CHAIR AND THAT BEING THE CASE? WHY WOULD IT NEED TO BE A, A MOTION TO APPROVE CHAIR, THE CULTURE TO CARRY A MOTION AT THIS MEETING IN THE ABSENCE OF FEAR? THAT'S HOW I'VE SEEN IT DONE.

SO YEAH, IF, IF NOT SOMEONE, SOMEONE WILL CORRECT ME, TRUST ME, THEY WILL, I'LL GET A NICE EMAIL OR SOMETHING, BUT YEAH, BECAUSE THE CHAIR IS DIVIDING CHAIR OVER THIS COMMISSION.

UM, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME THAT CHANGES, I DO HAVE TO GET PERMISSION TO CHAIR THE MEETING GUYS MIGHT NOT WANT ME TO CHAIR THE MEETING, SO, YEAH.

OKAY.

SO, UM, MOVING FORWARD, EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO VIEW THE AGENDA, CORRECT? YES.

OKAY.

AND HAS EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 5TH? YES.

YES.

RIGHT.

ARE THERE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE MINUTES AT THIS POINT? YES.

OKAY.

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ON PAGE THREE UNDER ITEM SIX.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UNDER PARAGRAPH MARTIN LUTHER KING EVENTS.

OKAY.

15TH LINE IN THAT PARAGRAPH WHERE IT STARTS WITH STEVEN.

OKAY.

AS MISS LOU SHOULD BE SPELLED L U AND NOT L O U.

OKAY.

WAIT, THAT IS A NICKNAME MRS. LUCILLE DEAD.

OKAY.

SO L U N D L E.

YES.

UM, THE LAST NAME IS SPELLED CORRECTLY.

OKAY.

WE'LL CHANGE THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, KATIE.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THESE MINUTES BEFORE WE ACCEPT THEM? ALL RIGHT, THEN LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT IF YOU ARE READY TO , WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK, I THINK.

YEP.

I'M ACTUALLY TO FILE IN.

GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND, KATIE, DO YOU HAVE A DIAL IN NUMBER THE MEETING? LET ME LOOK AND SEE IF THERE IS ONE.

HOLD ON.

CAUSE I THINK I'D BE THE ISSUE I'M ON MY TABLET, RHONDA.

THE DIAL-IN IS +1 440-462-0573, BUT THE PEN IS SIX SEVEN SEVEN ONE THREE EIGHT EIGHT FIVE ZERO POUND SIX SEVEN SEVEN ONE THREE EIGHT EIGHT FIVE ZERO POUNDS.

YES MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

SORRY GUYS.

UM, OKAY, SO IT'S SAYING THAT, THAT PIN, UM, YEAH, SO I'M JUST GOING TO MUTE IN-BETWEEN THREE AND NOT SPEAK.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

SO ARE WE, WE ARE GOOD WITH ACCEPTING THE MINUTES.

YES.

CAN YOU MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES WITH THE CHANGE? OKAY.

UM, UM, UM, UH, YEAH.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION FORMERLY? OKAY.

I MOTION TO ACCEPT THE NOVEMBER MEETING MINUTES WITH THE AMENDED CHANGE SUGGESTED BY MS. NEWBIE, MS. BARRETT SECOND TO THE MOTION.

WAS THAT ERIC? YES.

OKAY.

SO THE MOTION WAS MADE BY MIA, INSPECTED IT BY ERIC.

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OKAY.

ALRIGHTY.

OKAY.

UM, WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED A VOTE THERE.

UM, BUT JUST TO REFLECT THAT THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED AS WRITTEN, UH, WITH THE AMENDMENT MAY.

ALRIGHTY.

SO, UM, ANY OLD BUSINESS, SO IT LOOKS LIKE PROCLAMATION AND RESOLUTION IS THE FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA FOR OLD BUSINESS.

NOW I DID SEND OUT THE PROCLAMATION TO MOST EVERYONE.

UM, I DON'T THINK THAT ERIC RICHARD OR ESTEBAN RAMIREZ, DID YOU ALL GET THE ACCLIMATION TO LOOK AT? I DIDN'T GET IT.

YOU DID.

OKAY.

UM, SO I, I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE SEES THE PROCLAMATION SO THAT YOU CAN ADD ANY SUGGESTIONS OR CHANGES TO THE PROCLAMATION.

UM, AND THEN DR.

AKINS DID MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT MAYBE WE INVITE OR BOARD TO A WORKING GROUP, UM, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROCLAMATION.

UM, SO I GUESS I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN SOME DISCUSSION ON HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROCLAMATION, UM, SO THAT WE CAN, UM, TAKE SOME ACTION ON THIS AND GET THIS RECOMMENDATION AS A COUNCIL.

SO AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR UP FOR ANY DISCUSSION DISCUSSION REGARDING TO ANYTHING REGARDING PATIENTS TO THE PROCLAMATION.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

ANY DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT WITH REGARD TO THE PROCLAMATION AND RESOLUTION, OF COURSE, PROCLAMATION HAVING THE MAYOR IN A LIKE FINAL WORKING SESSION.

UM, CAUSE I THINK WE'RE COMING TO THAT POINT WITH THIS IS, IS A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE SIGNED BY HIM AND, AND ANNOUNCED BY HIM.

SO THAT WAY HE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THAT LAST PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, I LIKE THAT IDEA THAT FRED HAD MADE TO HAVE HIM INVOLVED AND I THINK HE WOULD BE, HE WOULD BE, HE WOULD ENTERTAIN THAT IDEA.

NO.

WELL, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF WE NEED TO SET THE WORKING SESSION AS A PERMISSION, BUT I DO AGREE IT WILL BE GOOD FOR HIM TO HAVE THAT DIALOGUE WITH US.

WE HAVE A FINAL VERSION, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

I MADE SOME NOTES, MADAM CHAIR ON WHAT EXACTLY IT WAS THAT I HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH.

AND I'LL SEE IF I CAN FIND THOSE AND SEND THEM TO, UH, TO YOUR LINES.

MOSTLY IT WAS SOME THINGS ON THERE THAT WERE KIND OF POINTED TOWARD, UM, THE ABILITY TO INFLUENCE OR THE ABILITY TO HAVE PEOPLE DO THINGS, UM, MAY OR MAY NOT BE OUTSIDE OF THE, UH, THE, THE, THE SCOPE OF RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS COMMITTEE AND MIGHT EVEN FURTHER BE OUTSIDE OF THAT, OF THE MAYOR.

SO, UM, IN, IN, IN LIGHT OF THAT, JUST TAKING A LOOK AT IT FROM, UH, FROM A, UM, A DIFFERENT LENS, IF YOU WOULD, UM, PROCLAMATION SHOULD BE JUST THAT A PROCLAMATION OF A PARTICULAR BODY, NOT INVOLVING ACTIONS FROM SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS.

AND IT APPEARED AS THOUGH THERE WAS SOME OF THAT, THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE NEEDED TO BE CLEANED UP.

OKAY.

OKAY.

DEFINITELY WANT ALL OF YOU GUYS TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND ADD YOUR INPUT.

UM, YOU DO HAVE EDITING RIGHTS.

SO AS EDIT THE DOCUMENT, I WILL GO THROUGH AND, UM, ONCE EVERYONE KIND OF PUTS THEIR EDITS AND I'LL CLEAN IT UP AND CREATE A SECOND DRAFT THAT WE CAN GO OVER, UM, EVEN BEFORE PRESENTING THAT TO THE MAYOR.

AND THEN OF COURSE HE CAN GIVE HIS, YOU KNOW, HIS INFLUENCE, UM, AND KIND OF GIVE SOME DIRECTION ON WHERE HE WANTS TO GO WITH THE DOCUMENT FROM THAT POINT MOVING FORWARD.

AND I MAKE A COUPLE OF GRAMMATICAL CHANGES THAT WAS IN THERE, BUT IT, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT SHOWS UP ON ONCE WE DO IT.

IF IT SHOWS YOU

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ON THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT OF WHAT CHANGES ARE MADE, THAT WE KNOW, I WASN'T SURE HOW, HOW THAT ALL WORKS ROCKS.

I'M GONNA DO.

I'M GONNA CREATE ANOTHER DOC AND INVITE EVERYONE TO THE MOST RECENT DOCUMENT, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS EDITING RIGHTS TO THE MOST RECENT DOCUMENT.

AS YOU ALL MAKE EDITS, I CAN SEE THOSE EDITS WORK COMMENTS.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE EDITED.

YOU KNOW, DR.

AKINS MADE SOME COMMENTS, YOU CAN MAKE COMMENTS OR EDITS EITHER WAY, BUT I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT IT'S MOVING FORWARD AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS WITH IT.

UM, AND THEN HOPE IS THAT THIS PROCLAMATION WILL TURN INTO A FORMAL RESOLUTION.

AT SOME POINT IT WILL BECOME A PART OF A FORMAL RESOLUTION.

UM, ONE THING ALSO YOLANDA HAD SENT SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT SOME OTHER CITIES THAT, UH, TROTWOOD HAD A REALLY NICE RESOLUTION OR PROCLAMATION THAT THEY DID, UM, HANDING OUT AGAINST RACISM.

UM, AND THEN ALSO I THINK THERE WERE COUPLE OF OTHER CITIES THAT WE HAVE, AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SEEING THOSE DOCUMENTS, I'M HAPPY TO FORWARD THOSE TO YOU.

SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE DOCUMENTS AS WELL.

THIS WOULD BE GREAT TO START A NEW YEAR WITH THIS PROCLAMATION.

SO, AND I THINK WE'RE, AT THAT POINT, WE'RE READY TO, AFTER INITIAL MEETINGS TO MAYBE HAVE THIS IN JANUARY, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US START A NEW NEW YEAR ON A NEW, A NEW PATH.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S WHEN I WORRY TODAY TOO MANY PAPERS.

SO, UM, I THINK BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO WANT TO TAKE ACTION ON.

UM, I WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD, UM, WITH INVITING THE MAYOR TO PARTICIPATE IN A WORKING SESSION, UM, WITH REGARD TO OUR PROCLAMATION.

UM, SO IF SOMEONE WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

I SECOND THAT MOTION.

SO THE MOTION HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE INVITING MAYOR TO A WORKING SESSION.

UH, KATIE, COULD YOU CALL HIM OR CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? RIGHT? MR. RAMIREZ, MR. RICHARDSON, I SAW MS. STEVENS ENTER.

SO I, I, MR. REAGAN'S I THINK YOU'RE ON MUTE.

SORRY.

YOU'RE ON MUTE, MS. HANUKKAH.

I DO THE, I CARRIED CARRIED IT.

UM, WHEN I WOULD LIKE TO PASS THE, UM, THE SEAT BACK TO THE CHAIR, SINCE SHE IS PRESENT, I'M GONNA LET YOU TAKE IT, UM, FOR THE NEXT FIVE MINUTES AS I GET SETTLED, JUST WALKED IN THE DOOR.

I REALIZE MY INTERNET CONNECTION.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THEN, UM, MOVING FORWARD THE MISSION.

UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW YOLANDA HAS WANTED US TO TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT OUR LEGISLATION, OUR MISSION, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE COMMISSION WAS ESTABLISHED TO DO.

UM, AND I THINK WE DO NEED TO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THAT.

I THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO ENSURE THAT OUR ACTIONS AND OUR ACTIVITIES ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR LEGISLATION.

UM, AND ALL OF US WERE INTER INTERVIEW BASED UPON THAT MISSION.

SO I KNOW THAT

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THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOLANDA HAS WANTED US TO LOOK AT FROM THE BEGINNING.

SO DOES EVERYBODY HAVE A COPY OF THE LEGISLATION IN FRONT OF THEM? YES.

I AM HAPPY TO SEND A QUICK EMAIL IF YOU GUYS JUST LOOK AT IT ON THE SCREEN, UM, WHEN ARE YOU ABLE TO PULL IT UP AND SHARE IT? I, I CAN, BUT I, I AM ON MY TABLET.

SO LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THAT BE THAT GOOD.

OKAY.

EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THAT.

UM, EARLIER THIS WEEK, ANOTHER COPY OF IT PROBABLY MONDAY, RHONDA, I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN ONCE I GET IT PULLED UP.

IF IT WOULD MAKE LIFE EASIER FOR YOU, I HAVE IT PULLED UP.

SURE.

I MEAN, DO WE HAVE THE OPTION? YEAH.

YOU ALL CAN SHARE.

LET'S SEE HERE TO GO AHEAD AND SEND IT AGAIN.

EVERYBODY'S SO YOU GUYS SEE IT.

LET'S SEE.

WELL, I'M GOING TO DO THIS AND STEFAN WHO YOU HAVE.

OKAY.

SO GOOD THERE.

PERFECT.

SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT.

EVERYBODY SEE THAT.

YES.

YES.

ALL RIGHT.

AND SO THIS LEGISLATION WAS ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER BY OUR CITY MANAGER, ROB SHELMAR.

UM, AND SO YOLANDA, AND LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY FOR ME TO PASS THE TIME BACK TO YOU.

OKAY.

UM, SO LOOKING AT THIS DOCUMENT AS THE LEGISLATION, AND AS RHONDA MENTIONED, IT WAS TOGETHER BY OUR CITY MANAGER.

AND OUR PLAN WAS TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THIS AND MAKE, YOU KNOW, ENSURE THAT IT ALIGNS WITH OUR VISION OF OUR COMMISSION.

UM, NOW THAT WE'RE ALL ON BOARD AND I SENT THIS OUT JUST TO GET SOME INPUT FROM, UH, THE COMMISSION TO SEE IF THERE WERE THINGS THAT ARE TERMINOLOGIES THAT WE WANTED TO CHANGE.

UM, NOT NECESSARILY NOT NECESSARILY THE CHANGING THE INTENT OF THE COMMISSION OR, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE COMMISSION, BUT TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE WORDING, UM, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS IN OUR LAST MEETING, OR IT MIGHT'VE BEEN PRIOR TO THAT, UM, WE HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH THE MISSION STATEMENT AND THE WAY THAT IT READS.

SO, UM, I ASKED FOR INPUT ON THAT.

UH, WE WERE PARTICULARLY, I THINK THAT PEOPLE WERE KIND OF, UM, AT LEAST I KNOW I WAS LOOKING AT THE WORD, UM, TOLERANCE AND, UM, AND THEN THE DIVERSITY AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT INCLUDED INCLUSION AS WELL.

SO WE WERE GOING, WE WERE LOOKING AT AS A COMMISSION AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ANY CHANGES TO, UM, THE MISSION STATEMENT OR ANY WORDING THAT YOU SEE WITHIN THE LEGISLATION AS IT'S.

SO, UM, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY CHANGES THAT YOU ALL FOR SAW THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THAT.

I KNOW, UM, I HAD BROUGHT UP A SUGGESTION UNDER THE PURPOSES AND IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMISSION.

IT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE MISSION BE INCLUDING DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION.

INCLUSION HAS TO BE BEYOND JUST RACE AND ETHNICITY.

I MEAN, WE'RE NAME OF THE COMMISSION SELF AS CULTURE AND DIVERSITY.

UM, WE NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER ISSUES AND UNDER MARGINALIZED GROUPS THAT ARE IN OUR AREA AS WELL.

AND SO I SUGGESTED ADDING UNDER THE PURPOSE OF, UM, WHERE'S THE DISCRIMINATION BECAUSE OF RACE AND ETHNICITY, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, TO DUSK DISCRIMINATION.

I SUGGESTED PUTTING SEXUAL ORIENTATION, RELIGION, AND GENDER.

AND I THINK IT WAS, UM, TO ADD THAT TO BE INCLUSIVE.

I MEAN,

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IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, THESE ARE MARGINALIZED GROUPS IN OUR AREA THAT LIVE IN OUR CITY.

AND, UM, IT DOESN'T, I, AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT, THE INITIAL INTENT OF THE, UM, OF WHY THIS WAS FORMED, BUT WE, WE, WE CAN INCLUDE ALL OUR, WE SHOULD INCLUDE ALL OUR, UM, UH, MARGINALIZED GROUPS CAN BE DONE BOTH.

I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST FOCUSING ON RACE AND ETHNICITY.

I MEAN, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAD THE INCIDENT WITH OUR BUSINESS, UM, THE LOCAL BUSINESS AND SOME OF THEIR BELIEF IS, IS BASED ON THAT SOME OF THE TEXTS THAT WE'RE GETTING IS BASED ON THEIR RELIGION.

SO THEY ARE A MARGINALIZED GROUP.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO ADD ON TO THE PURPOSE.

AND I DID NOT, UM, FOR ME, IT, I DON'T SEE IT AS IT CHANGING THE INTENT AND THE WORK OF THIS GROUP.

IT JUST INCLUDES WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING DIVERSITY.

INCLUSION INCLUDES ALL THOSE MARGINALIZED GROUPS.

AND THAT WAS MY, MY SUGGESTION TO THAT LINE.

SO I WILL SAY THAT, UM, AS WE MENTIONED, THE LEGISLATION WAS DEVELOPED BY THE CITY MANAGER, THE NAME OF GROUP, WAS IT THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS? THE INTENT OF THE, THIS COMMISSION WAS CAME OUT OF ISSUE WITH GEORGE FREUD.

UM, IN, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY WENT IN ON THIS ERIC AND MYSELF BECAUSE WE WANTED TO PREVENT SIMILAR SITUATIONS FROM HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THAT WAS RELATED TO RACE SPECIFICALLY.

RIGHT.

UM, MY, UM, I WAS APPROACHED WITH A DIFFERENT, UH, WHAT THIS GROUP IN THE LONG RUN WAS GOING TO BE REPRESENTED ALL OUR MARGINALIZED GROUPS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WE WOULD CELEBRATE OUR CULTURE, OUR INCLUSION AND, AND DIVERSITY.

AND TO ME, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION IS MUCH MORE THAN JUST RACE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

WE CAN STILL FOCUS ON WHAT THAT IS, AND THAT IS, AND WE SHOULD, AND WE OUGHT TO, BUT AGAIN, IF WE WERE GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, IT HAS TO INCLUDE, WE HAVE TO BE INCLUSIVE.

I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT IN OUR MISSION STATEMENT, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT BE INCLUSION OF ALL OF THOSE UNDERMINE THOSE MARGINALIZED GROUPS DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE TAKE AWAY FROM THE WORK THAT WHAT THE INITIAL INTENT WAS, BUT IN THE LONG RUN, THIS, THIS COMMISSION IS GOING TO LAST FOUR YEARS AND I'M DOWN AND DOWN THE LINE.

SO, I MEAN, THIS IS WORK THAT WITH A GROUP OF 90 PEOPLE CAN BE DONE.

SO, I MEAN, I DO IT WITH ME, ONE STAFF.

SO, YOU KNOW, TO INCLUDE ALL DIFFERENT ASPECTS BECAUSE, UM, WE HAVE ALL THESE INTERSECTIONALITIES BETWEEN OUR MARGINALIZED GROUPS AND WE HAVE ISSUES IN THE CITY THAT, THAT THESE GROUPS FACE.

SO WE CAN BE THAT SOUNDING BOARD.

I MEAN, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A BIAS INCIDENT REPORTING, LIKE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, WE CAN'T SAY, OH, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH RACE, THEN WE WON'T ADDRESS IT.

BUT IF IT HAS TO DO WITH DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, IT HAS TO INCLUDE THOSE MARGINALIZED GROUPS.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING TO MAKE THAT CHANGE ON THAT, THAT IS TO MAKE CLEAR IF WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION THAN WE ARE, WE'RE GOING TO BE INCLUDING THOSE GROUPS, BUT THAT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY WHAT THE INTENT OF THE GROUP WAS OR WHAT THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST SUGGESTING ON THAT.

SO RHONDA, I MEAN, YOLANDA YOU'RE YOU'RE MUTED.

I DO UNDERSTAND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS A MARGINALIZED GROUP, UM, AND WE NEED TO BE INCLUSIVE.

UM, MY, MY CONCERN IS THAT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SO MUCH TO DO IN TERMS OF JUST LOOKING AT THE RACE ISSUE AND THE CULTURE ISSUE THAT I AM NOT.

UM, I DO NOT WANT TO BROADEN THE PURPOSE OF THIS SUBMISSION BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH TO DO IN THAT PORTION.

AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS WHAT, UM, THAT'S WHAT THE INITIAL INTENT WAS WITH THE COMMISSION.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE VOICED.

THE COMMISSION IS STARTING OUT AS WE HAD PEOPLE INTERVIEW AND, YOU KNOW, UM, SHARE THEIR INTERESTS TO THAT NATURE.

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I SAID, THIS IS THE ACTUAL LEGISLATION, NOT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

I MEAN, IF YOU EMIT THIS FROM THE LEGISLATION, THAT MEANS DOWN THE LINE WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO, AND WE HAVE OTHER IDEAS TO FOCUS ON, WE DON'T HAVE THAT LEGISLATION ANYMORE.

SO, I MEAN, THIS IS THE LEGISLATION DOESN'T MEAN THAT OUR FIRST FOCUS ISN'T ON WHAT WE HAD DONE, THE WORK THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TO GET THIS INITIAL STARTED.

BUT I THINK THE WORDING IN THE OFFICIAL LEGISLATION HAS TO INCLUDE ARE MARGINALIZED GROUPS CALLED THE MARGINALIZED GROUPS.

IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST SAYING.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T DO THE WORK THAT THIS WAS INITIALLY ON THAT OR THAT, THAT ISN'T OUR MAIN FOCUS AT THIS MOMENT, BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE AT THIS MOMENT BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING THIS ESTABLISHED, WE'RE WORKING ON THIS AND TRYING TO GET THIS WORKED OUT.

I JUST THINK THIS IS AN OFFICIAL FORM.

THAT'S GOING TO BE ON RECORD WITH THE CITY AND THAT'S GOING TO BE WHAT THE, UM, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE RULING ON AS IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUR BASIS ON, FOR FURTHER FUTURE COMMISSIONS BEYOND US.

SO I WAS JUST THINKING THAT IF WE'RE GOING, IF THIS IS GOING TO BE THE OFFICIAL LEGISLATION, IT SHOULD STATE STATE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, AGAIN, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T WORK ON THAT MAIN FOCUS THAT THIS COMMISSION WAS STARTED ON THAT'S CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW.

AND OBVIOUSLY THAT HAS TO BE FOCUSED ON NOW GETTING THIS ESTABLISHED THAT THIS DOESN'T LIMIT US FROM DOING THAT.

THIS JUST MAKES OUR, OUR OFFICIALS FORM LEGISLATION THAT IT'S, WE ARE A TRUE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION GROUP.

YEAH.

SO I THINK FOR ME, THE, UM, I COMPLETELY AGREE, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME WHEN THE SITUATIONS WITH, UH, GEORGE FLOYD, BRIANNA TAYLOR, OH MY GOSH, THAILAND, ENGLISH PROSPER, JOHN CRAWFORD, THERE'S BEEN SO MANY.

UM, AND WHEN THE STEPHENS WENT TO THE TABLE TO SPEAK TO THE MAYOR, THIS WAS SOMETHING I HAD TALKED TO MAYOR GORE ABOUT WHEN I WAS ON AMC.

THERE'S A NEED FOR THIS, BUT I THINK THERE ARE SO MANY HUGE CONCERNS WITH, TO RACE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT RACE AND HIRING PRACTICES, WHEN YOU LOOK AT RACE AND PROPER POLICING, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT RACE AND ACCESS TO HOUSING, THERE ARE SO MANY ISSUES, BUT WITHIN THAT, MIA, I DO AGREE THERE ARE MARGINALIZED GROUPS WITHIN RACE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UM, THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY, OR WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GAY BI THAT THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY THERE'S ISSUES WITHIN THAT, BUT THIS COMMISSION WAS ESTABLISHED TO ADDRESS SYSTEMIC RACISM.

AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DON'T SEE IN THIS LEGISLATION.

AND I THINK IF WE DON'T ADDRESS THE SYSTEMIC ISSUES, WE'LL NEVER GET TO THE DIVERSITY AND THE INCLUSIVITY AND, AND, AND WHAT I'VE SEEN HAPPEN SOMETIMES IS GOVERNMENTS ARE AFRAID TO TALK ABOUT THAT PIECE.

PROP WOOD WAS VERY BOLD THAT CAME OUT AND SAID, THIS IS OUR STANCE ON SYSTEMIC RACISM.

I HAVE NOT SEEN OUR CITY DO THAT YET.

AND I THINK THAT UNTIL WE CAN REALLY GET TO THE ROOT OF THE SYSTEMIC ISSUE, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO.

SO, SO DO WE FORGET THE SYSTEMIC PART AND JUST MOVE ON TO THE DIVERSITY PIECE OR DO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE SYSTEMIC PART? AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE, AS A COMMISSION HAVE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT HOW HAVE WE ADDRESSED THAT PIECE.

I DO THINK WE NEED A VISION.

WE HAVE A MISSION AND OUR VISION IS SOMETHING WE MAY NEVER ACCOMPLISH.

YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE WORKING TOWARDS THAT FOREVER.

RIGHT NOW.

WE DON'T HAVE A VISION AS A PART OF OUR LEGISLATION.

SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CREATE.

YEAH.

THERE ISN'T A VISION ON THIS.

THERE'S JUST A PURPOSE IN THE MISSION.

SO THAT, THAT COULD BE ADDED ON AS A VISION, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE WHAT WE WOULD, WE'RE VISIONING THIS GROUP TO BE.

I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE I SAID, I'M JUST SAYING, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND I'M JUST, IF THIS IS GOING TO BE THE OFFICIAL,

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OFFICIAL LEGISLATIVE FORM, I, I LIKE TO SEE, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN THE WORDING OF ITS PURPOSE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT OUR FIRST FOCUS AND OUR MAIN FOCUS AT THIS MOMENT, ISN'T ADDRESSING THOSE BECAUSE LIKE YOU STATED, RHONDA, WE DON'T ADDRESS THOSE.

WE CAN'T WORK ON THE OTHER THING.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

I'M SAYING JUST BECAUSE WE ADD THAT TO THE PURPOSE, DOESN'T TAKE AWAY WHAT OUR MAIN, FIRST INITIAL GOAL IS OF THIS GROUP OF GETTING THAT ESTABLISHED AND GETTING THAT WORK DONE.

BUT THIS ALSO DOESN'T US, WE'RE DOWN THE LINE WHERE WE ARE AT A SPACE OR A FUTURE GROUP CAN WORK, OR WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT POPS UP IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT, THAT HAS AFFECTED OUR LOCAL LGBQ TA RESIDENTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, OUR MUSLIM RESIDENTS HAPPENS IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN'T ADDRESS SUCH AS THE UNITY RALLY.

FOR EXAMPLE, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT WAS AN INCIDENT THAT WAS CAUSED BY, BY THEM BEING MUSLIMS, JUST IN CASE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS AN EXAMPLE, IF THAT DOES HAPPEN, WE CAN SEND TO A UNITY RALLY.

THEN THAT WOULD BE OUR COMMISSION THAT WOULD TAKE LEAD OF THAT, OR WELCOME A NEW BUSINESS COMING IN, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT.

UM, THAT'S WHAT I WAS, UM, MY SUGGESTION WAS ADDING THOSE, THOSE IN THERE.

IF WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION ON THERE TO ADD, ADD THE MARGINALIZED GROUPS LISTED IN THE PURPOSE.

BUT AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY THAT.

SO, UM, IT'S WHATEVER.

UM, I LIKE TO GET OTHER FEEDBACK TO SEE WHAT OTHER SAY, SO LET THEM SHARE MY SPEAK.

YES.

I SECOND ME AS OPINION.

UM, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, I MEAN, EVEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TERMINOLOGY REGARDING DIVERSITY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM A KNOLOGY REGARDING EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, ESPECIALLY IN MODERN TIMES, IT'S NOT A SPECIFIC TO RACE OR ETHNICITY, AND THERE'S AN OBVIOUS CONFLICTION WITH THE DEFINITION OF THOSE SPECIFIC TERMS AND WHAT WE HAVE WITHIN CHARTER AND LEGISLATION ITSELF.

UH, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE WHAT OUR COMMISSION IS ABLE TO ASK THE DIVERSITY, UH, AND, UH, CITIZEN ACTION COMMITTEE, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD HOLD TRUE TO WHAT THE TERM, WHAT THE, WHAT THE DEFINITION TO THAT DEFINITION OF DIVERSITY ACTUALLY MEETS, UM, WHICH INCLUDES ANYWHERE BETWEEN THE LGBT COMMUNITY TO RELIGION, AFFILIATION, TO, UH, GENDER, UH, AND ANY OTHER, UH, LABELS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH TERM DIVERSITY.

UM, IF WE ARE GOING TO FOCUS SOLELY ON ETHNICITY AND RACIAL TENSION RELATIONS, THEN I WOULD PROPOSE TO CHANGE THE NAME FROM CULTURAL AND DIVERSITY TO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE SPECIFIC TO WHAT THE COMMISSION'S AIMED TOWARD.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT RACIAL AND ETHNICITY, UH, ISSUES WITHIN THE CITY, UH, SPECIFICALLY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD REPRESENT IN OUR TITLE, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, UH, AND TERMINOLOGY ASSOCIATED WITH THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY IN MODERN TIMES IS A LOT MORE BROAD THAN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW AND DISCUSSION, WHICH IS RACIAL AND ETHNIC RELATIONS.

UH, IT'S NOT FOR OPPORTUNITY.

WE WOULD HAVE TO REVISE THAT TERMINOLOGY TO LOOK AT RACE AND RACE AND ETHNIC, ETHNIC ISSUES ITSELF.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M SEEING THE CONFLICT NOW THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, UH, LOOKING AT THE DEFINITIONS, NOT ONLY WHAT BY, YOU KNOW, THE E O IT WAS BY WHERE THE D HE GOES BY, UM, THOSE ARE THE DEFINITIONS.

THOSE ARE THE DEFINITIONS THAT, THAT MOST OF, MOST OF STATE AGENCIES GO GO BY NOWADAYS COLLEGES, A LOT OF INSTITUTIONS GO BY, I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD TRUE TO THE TERM DIVERSITY, AND WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH OUR CHARTER AND OUR NAME TO REFLECT THE TRUE MEANING OF THE RACE AND ETHNIC SITUATIONS WE'RE TACKLING.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY DISCUSSION, UH, JUST EITHER, OR IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING DIVERSITY, UH, WE SHOULD HOLD TRUE TO THAT TERMINOLOGY.

IF WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS SOLELY ON RACIAL, ETHNIC RELATIONS, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY REWORD SOME OF THE BROAD LANGUAGE WE HAVE INSIDE OF THE CHARTER.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. PAUL.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THAT AS WELL.

UM, I ALSO AGREE WITH WHAT MIANNA STEFAN ARE SAYING.

IF WE'RE SPEAKING OF INCLUSION, INCLUSION IS

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ALL MARGINALIZED GROUPS, REGARDLESS OF, AND AGAIN, IT WON'T CHANGE THE FOCUS AREAS RIGHT NOW.

IT'S SOMETHING AS WE GROW AS A COMMISSION, I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT WE'VE BEEN TASKED WITH LOOKING AT THIS BIAS TO BASED SERVICES POLICY.

AND IN THAT THE LANGUAGE THAT IS USED IS MUCH BROADER.

AND I FEEL IF WE'VE BEEN TASKED WITH ALIGNING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ACROSS THE BOARD, WE SHOULD BE USING THE SAME INCLUSIVE LANGUAGE IN ALL OF THOSE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.

I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR FROM, FROM THE, UH, THE MEN AS WELL.

AND I MEAN, ONCE AGAIN, THIS, THIS COMMISSION WAS ESTABLISHED AFTER GEORGE FLOYD WAS, WAS KILLED IN A WAY THAT HE WAS, WE HAD THE PROTEST IN OUR CITY, AND WE KNEW THAT IT WAS POSSIBLE THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD HAPPEN IN OUR CITY.

SO I'M SITTING HERE AND I'M LOOKING AT FOUR STRONG MEN OF COLOR.

WHAT ARE YOU ALL I, I HEARD FROM YOU A STEFAN, BUT WHAT ARE YOU ALL THINK ABOUT THIS? I MEAN, I TOLD HIM, HE AGREE WITH, WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL HAD SAID, HOW DO WE GET TO THE ISSUE OF THE SYSTEMIC RACISM ADDRESSING THAT? HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT UNDER OUR CURRENT LEGISLATION? IT, IF I MIGHT, YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE AN IDENTITY ISSUE, UM, AT LEAST BASED ON HOW IT'S BEEN ARTICULATED HERE.

UM, SO WE, WE CAN TAKE ONE OR TWO PATHS, EITHER ADDRESS THE NAME OR THE LEGISLATION OR THE CHARGE, UM, ARTISTS WHOSE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE, I GUESS, IS THE QUESTION THAT WE WOULD ASK THEM.

THE ANSWER TO THAT IS PROBABLY NOT, THERE'S SOME BLEED OVER, RIGHT.

AND THAT'S, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE HESITATION IS, RIGHT? HOW DO YOU ADDRESS, UM, SOCIAL AND, AND, UM, SOCIAL JUSTICE ISSUES WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE, UH, THE, THE ISSUE OF, UH, DISCRIMINATION AND THE WAY BLACK MEN ARE BEING TREATED, OR PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE BEING TREATED IN THIS COUNTRY? I DON'T THINK THOSE THINGS ARE GONNA BE SEPARATED.

SO IT MIGHT BE THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE TO CHANGE THE NAME.

BUT I THINK THE PROPER THING TO DO, IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S WHERE WE DECIDED WHERE WE WANTED TO GO, BUT THE PROPER THING TO DO, I THINK WOULD TO MAKE THIS ALL INCLUSIVE AND, UM, AND ADD THE TERMS OF ILLUSION TO THE CHARGE OR TO THE LEGISLATION, WE CAN STILL, THEN THAT WAY WE'RE NOT PIGEONHOLED INTO ADDRESSING ONE SPECIFIC SOCIAL INJUSTICE.

UM, AND THAT MIGHT BE JUST BASED ON THE NAME AND WHAT, WHAT IT IS, UH, WE FEEL AND BELIEVE AND THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING, I THINK, TO ADD INCLUSION.

YEAH.

IT MAY NOT BE WHAT WE WANT TO DO, BUT IS IT THE RIGHT THING TO DO? AND I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR THIS COMMISSION.

I THINK ONE THING WE NEED TO DO AND NOT TO JUST MUDDY THE WATER, BUT WE NEED TO ADD PEOPLE TO THIS COMMISSION IS SMALL.

UM, AT LEAST FROM WHAT I SEE FOR THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN ON DOING, AND THE DIFFERENT PATHS THAT WE'RE GOING DOWN, WE NEED TO ADD MORE PEOPLE TO, UH, TO, UH, TO CREATE A LARGER IMPACT.

AND THAT MIGHT HELP US SOLVE THAT PROBLEM OF INCLUSION AND BE ABLE TO ATTACK SOME OF THOSE THINGS WELL, COULD BE TWO DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS OR TWO DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, FOCAL AREAS, UM, ERIC OR ERIC.

SURE.

RIGHT.

I, I AGREE WITH FRED.

I MEAN, I'M DEFINITELY A FAVOR, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE SYSTEMIC RACISM.

I MEAN, WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE AND THE FOUNDATION GET IT.

UM, AND I DO THINK THAT SHOULD BE A PRIMARY FOCUS OF THIS, BUT I ALSO WOULD AGREE THAT, UM, WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, BE THIS TOTAL INCLUSION SCENARIO.

I DON'T THINK TO NUMBER NINE IS THE RIGHT ANSWER EITHER.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S JUST KINDA, YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHT, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I, I, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE INCLUSION.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT, UM, AT ALL, BUT I JUST AGREE THAT THE SYSTEMIC RACISM, IN MY OPINION SHOULD BE

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THE PRIMARY FOCUS AT THIS POINT.

YEAH.

THIS IS ERIC.

YEAH.

I'M JUST GOING TO, I GUESS WHAT ERIC AND FRED SAID, YEAH, TOTALLY AGREE.

YOU KNOW, SYSTEMIC RACISM HAS TO BE THE PARTY.

THAT'S WHAT OBVIOUSLY LED TO THE FORMATION OF THIS GROUP.

AND SO, AND THAT'S WHERE THE EMPHASIS SHOULD BE.

AND SO RIGHT WITH THE, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE CURRENT NAME THAT WE HAVE, UM, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, BY INCLUDING ALL GROUPS, I GUESS IT DOESN'T, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY TAKE AWAY FROM, FROM BEING WHAT OUR PARTY IS AND WHAT OUR FOCUS IS.

RIGHT.

BUT IF THAT'S, IF THE FOCUS IS TO BE STRICTLY ON RACE AND ETHNICITY, IF YOU WILL A CULTURE, THEN, THEN YOU WOULD ALMOST HAVE TO CHANGE THE NAME.

RIGHT.

OR YOU WOULD MAYBE NEED TO CHANGE THE NAME.

RIGHT.

UM, UH, TO MAKE THAT THE FOCUS.

RIGHT.

SO RIGHT.

IF WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THE NAME AS, AS IS WHAT WE SAY, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, THEN I ASSUME WE ALL, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE FOCUSES ON THE, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT BROUGHT US HERE, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE DISCRIMINATION, YOU KNOW, UH, OR ANYBODY, OR EVEN MARK ANY GROUPS BEING MARGINALIZED OR IMPACTED, RIGHT.

REGARDLESS OF WHAT I BELIEVE, SAR OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

RIGHT.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S TREATED WITH RESPECT AND BE TREATED FAIRLY.

AND WHAT HAVE YOU, UH, SO THAT'S SORT OF, I GUESS, WHAT WE NEED TO DECIDE UPON, RIGHT? IF, IF OUR FOCUS IS JUST GOING STRICTLY BEYOND WHICH I'M OKAY WITH THAT AS WELL, IF IT'S JUST TO BE FOCUSED ON JUST THE, THE, THE RACE AND ETHNICITY PIECE, THEN AGAIN, YES.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO NEED TO CHANGE THE NAME, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO HEAD.

SO THAT'S THE THING, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO, WHAT WE NEED TO DECIDE UPON MADAM CHAIR.

ONE THING FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER, SOMEBODY SHARING THEIR SCREEN.

I THINK THAT MIGHT BE YOU.

YEAH, THERE WE ARE.

I'M GOING TO TURN OFF MY CLASSES, EMAILING EVERYBODY, AND IT KEEPS POPPING UP.

SO LET ME, LET ME GET OUT OF THAT.

SO IS THAT OKAY? CAN YOU SEE THAT SHARING YOUR SCREEN? OKAY.

WHERE DO YOU WANT ME TO MOVE UP TO? I MEAN, THAT'S THE CREATION OF PURPOSE? I THINK IT DOES LIMIT IN HERE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF KATIE, IF, IS IT, ARE WE LIMITED TO JUST NO MORE THAN NINE? IS THAT THE MAXIMUM NOW, NOW LOUD ON PERMISSION? I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT SET FOR THIS COMMISSION.

AND I DON'T THINK ANY OTHER COMMISSION HAS ANY MORE THAN THAT.

SO THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL SAID.

WHAT'D YOU SAY, RHONDA? I THINK THAT'S BEEN THE CHARTER.

NO SUBMISSION SHOULD CONSIST OF MORE THAN THREE OR MORE THAN NINE VOTING MEMBERS.

OKAY.

SO YOU WOULD ALL MOST NEED A SEPARATE COMMISSION.

SO I HAD AN ITEM TO ADD TO THE AGENDA THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING IN THE ADVOCACY COMMITTEE THAT KIND OF LED DIRECTLY INTO THAT.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WANT TO TANGLE THAT, BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT DID COME UP, UM, IN RESPONSE TO THE NAACP EIGHT POINTS.

SO I KIND OF DID WANT TO ADD A QUICK AGENDA ITEM.

UM, BUT WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, UM, MIA, YOU'RE STILL SHARING YOUR SCREEN RIGHT HERE.

PERFECT.

I KNOW I'M THE SAME WAY I DO IT.

UM, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LAST THING TO SAY ON THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT CHARTER DOES SPEAK TO HUMAN RIGHTS AND CIVIL RIGHTS AND, YOU KNOW, HUMAN RIGHTS ARE NOT INCLUSIVE TO, UM, IF YOU EVEN LOOK RIGHT THERE, PROMOTE GLOBAL THINKING, ENCOURAGE CIVIL AND HUMAN RIGHTS AWARENESS AND REFLECT A RICH DIVERSITY FOUND IN THE CITY.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF JUST INCLUDING A MORE INCLUSIVE STATEMENT, YOU KNOW, SETS THE STANDARD FOR THE CHARTER, BUT IN DISCUSSION OF WHAT THAT EIGHT POINT NAACP THING WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE SHOULD BE SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION AND HOW THAT IS BEING MET.

AND IF THAT IS GOING TO BE BEST MET BY AN ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE OR COMMISSION DEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT? I AGREE.

WE HAVE TO DEFINE WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS PURELY ON SYSTEMATIC RACISM,

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THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION PIECE, AND EVEN READING THROUGH THE MISSION STATEMENT EVEN IN HERE.

AND SO WHERE DO WE, THIS, THIS IS A BIG ONE HERE.

YES.

I'M SORRY.

I THINK ERIC IS TALKING AND THEN, YEAH, I'M SORRY.

YEAH.

I GUESS MAYBE THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, AT A POINT WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION, YOU KNOW, OR MAYBE THIS COMES TO A VOTE IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO, UM, EITHER HAVE A COMMITTED ACTION THAT WHERE WE CHANGED THE NAME TO FOCUS EXCLUSIVELY ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT I GUESS, BROUGHT THIS GROUP TOGETHER, RIGHT.

OR DO WE WANT TO, HE LEAVE THE NAME AS IS, INCLUDE THE OTHER GROUPS OR ALL GROUPS, IF YOU WILL.

RIGHT.

SO THAT'S THE, THIS, I THINK THE DECISION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE, UM, AT LEAST FROM MY VIEWPOINT, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DECIDE UPON.

RHONDA.

I THINK FOR ME, I WANT TO KNOW, DOES THE CITY WANT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF SYSTEMIC RACISM? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT US HERE AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, ARE THEY EVEN OKAY WITH THE NAME CHANGE? AND IF NOT, THEN THERE'S KIND OF OUR ANSWER.

WELL, IT SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY WAY TO ADD MORE THAN NINE PEOPLE TO DO.

THIS IS A LOT OF WORK.

AND EITHER ONE, THE ONLY ADD ONLY WAY TO ADD MORE THAN NINE PEOPLE TO HAVE MORE THAN NINE PEOPLE IS TO HAVE A SECOND COMMISSION THAT JUST ADDRESSES THAT SYSTEMIC RACISM AND A POINT THING.

SO THAT WOULD DEFINITELY, UM, I WOULD, THE ONLY WAY THAT WE COULD ADD, HAVE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE TO DO THIS WORK A SECOND COMMISSION.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNCIL WOULD BE, UM, OPEN TO HAVING SECOND.

I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE LIKE THIS ONE WAS BROUGHT UP IN INITIAL, BROUGHT UP TO A COUNCIL WORK SESSION TO SEE IF THAT WOULD EVEN BE SOMETHING THEY WOULD APPROVE, BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T APPROVE IT AND THEN THERE'S NO USE OF HAVING THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE THEN WE DON'T, WE CAN'T CREATE A SECOND ONE.

DOES THAT MEAN WE CAN CONTINUE TO ADD COMMITTEES, YOU KNOW, TO WORK ON THINGS AS WELL.

SO WE COULD ADD A COMMITTEE TO WORK ON A SPECIAL PROJECT AS A SPECIAL FOCUS.

WE HAVE THAT OPTION TO DO THAT, BUT I STILL DOESN'T GO BACK TO, I NEED THE ADDRESS AND I GUESS MIA'S INITIAL POINT ABOUT THE OVERALL PURPOSE SCOPE VISION OF, OF THE, UH, COMMISSION, RIGHT.

OR OF THIS GROUP.

SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO, I GUESS, START THERE IN TERMS OF WHAT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO, OKAY.

YEAH.

I MEAN, AND THEN, THEN, RIGHT.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY IF, IF, IF WE WANT THIS GROUP JUST FOCUSING ON, ON JUST THE, UM, AGAIN, WHAT BROUGHT US HERE, THE SYSTEMIC RACISM ISSUE, UM, THEN, UM, THEN MAYBE THAT'S A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER GROUPS CAN BE SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS THAT WE FEEL WE FEEL IS NECESSARY TERMS OF ANOTHER GROUP.

OKAY.

SO WHAT WE LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD TO PROPOSE THAT ANOTHER COMMISSION BE INITIATED TO ADDRESS, UM, SINCE WE DON'T FEEL THAT A NINE MEMBER COMMISSION CAN TAKE ALL THAT BIG UNDERTAKING, WHAT WE LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT TO THE CITY, THE RECOMMENDATION.

YES.

YEAH.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

'CAUSE THAT, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO ADD MORE THAN NINE AT NIGHT, MORE THAN NINE PEOPLE INVOLVED FROM MY UNDERSTANDING FROM WHAT ARE OUR CHARTER STATING WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T HAVE A COMMISSION.

I MEAN, IT'S UP TO NINE, IT'S AT LEAST THREE UP TO NINE.

SO, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT A MAX, WHAT WE CAN DO FOR

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THIS, UM, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THIS AND IF MORE PEOPLE IS NEEDED TO FOCUS THIS, CAUSE THERE'S OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT ASPECTS AND IT'S A LOT OF WORK.

UM, THEN, THEN THAT WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE TO PROPOSE TO HAVE A SECOND COMMISSION THAT WOULD FOCUS JUST ON REFORM AND CHANGE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT, AND THE OTHER ONE FOCUSING ON THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION AND CELEBRATING AND ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY OR SO LIKE WELCOMING BUSINESSES, EDUCATION, THINGS LIKE THAT ON THAT, THAT PART OF THAT COMMISSION.

I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

ESTEBAN.

I SAY SO IN TANDEM WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION, UH, TO PROPOSE A SECOND COMMISSION, DOES THAT MEAN WAS NEEDLESS TO SAY MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE RENAMING THIS COMMISSION AND, UH, REFINING THE SCOPE TO BE MORE SPECIFIC TO RACE AND ETHNIC RELATIONS? CORRECT.

SO THAT'S ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER, CORRECT? YEAH.

THAT WOULD BE THE NEW COMMISSION, THE NEW COMMISSION, THAT NAME TO GO WITH THE SYSTEMIC RACISM AND ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE, THIS COMMISSION THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ESTABLISHED AND EVERYTHING AND CAN BE THE, THE ALL-INCLUSIVE AND ADDRESSING AND CELEBRATING THOSE EVENTS AND CELEBRATING DIVERSITY AND STUFF.

THE OTHER SCHOOLS LIKE EDUCATION AND OTHER DRESSES, LIKE WELCOME NEW BUSINESSES, LIKE THE UNITY RALLY, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN, UM, THE NEW COMMISSION, ITS MAIN GOAL AND NAME WOULD BE DEALING WITH SYSTEMIC RACISM THAT'S THAT EXISTS AND THAT NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON.

DOES THAT, AM I, IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING AS YOU CAN SEE THESE CASES? SO, BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, ALL OF YOU, UM, YOU WERE INTERESTED IN THIS COMMISSION FOR A CERTAIN PURPOSE AND FROM MOST OF YOUR INTERVIEWS, MOST OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT AND EVEN THE INTERVIEW QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED WERE GEARED AROUND RACE AND CULTURE.

AND SO I'M UNDER THE PREMISE BASED ON THAT, UM, THAT MAYBE YOUR UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IT WOULD BE FULL FOCUSED ON RACE AND CULTURE, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

SO I WILL HAVE TO PUT THAT OUT TO YOU ALL.

I DO NOT, I'M NOT TRYING TO REMOVE PEOPLE FROM WHAT THEY SIGNED UP FOR.

HEY, I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, DO A BAIT AND SWITCH.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.

SO MY, UM, INITIAL THOUGHT AND BASED ON THIS LEGISLATION WAS THAT THIS COMMISSION, I SPOKE JUST ON THE RACE AND CULTURE PIECE.

SO IF WE ADDED ANOTHER COMMISSION, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD THAT SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION BE? MAYBE IT WILL BE AN ALL-INCLUSIVE DIVERSITY.

THEN WE RENAME THIS ONE TO BE MORE FOCAL ON THE, UM, RACE ISSUE.

I THINK MY STRUGGLE HERE IS, IS WHEN WE USE WORDS IN THE PURPOSE STATEMENT THAT SAYS FULL EXERCISE OF CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL PERSONS, THAT MEANS ALL PERSONS HAVE TO BE INCLUDED.

AND I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING THIS MUCH MORE INTENSE THAN IT NEEDS TO BE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN INCLUSION STATEMENT AND THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMISSION CAN'T MAKE STATEMENTS LIKE FULL EXERCISE OF CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL PERSONS WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION, WITHOUT INCLUDING ALL PERSONS.

AND I THINK THAT'S ALL THE BROADER OR, YOU KNOW, THOSE OF US THAT ARE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MAKE THAT POINT IS, IS THIS ITSELF IS ALMOST DISCRIMINATORY IN ITS STATEMENT.

AND IF WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING TOWARDS FULL EXERCISE OF CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE VERY MARGINALIZED GROUPS THAT STILL DON'T HAVE BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS.

SO WE CANNOT FURTHER MARGINALIZE A BLACK TRANSGENDER MALE BECAUSE WE STOPPED HERE.

AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE REST OF THAT IS COMING IN.

I DON'T THINK NOW IN THE, THE, WHAT I WAS BRINGING UP ABOUT THE EIGHT POINT AND THAT PURPOSE OF THAT COMMISSION OR THAT COMMITTEE IS BECAUSE THE POINT IS WE DON'T HAVE SUBPOENA POWERS, RIGHT? AND THE NUMBER ONE POINT OF THAT WAS A COMMISSION THAT HAD SUBPOENA POWERS THAT LOOKED DIRECTLY INTO THOSE CONFLICTS, THOSE POLICE REPORTS, THOSE THINGS,

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AND THAT'S WHERE THAT COMMISSION OR THAT GROUP WOULD BE FURTHER EXPOUNDED FROM US AS THE GROUP THAT DEALS DIRECTLY WITH THAT.

BUT I THINK EVEN THE WAY THAT THIS COMMISSION WAS BROUGHT TO ALL OF THE COMMUNITY, WAS IT WASN'T INCLUSIVE GROUP FOR ALL.

AND IT'S NOT THAT CHANGES THE FOCUS.

WE CAN'T STOP HERE AND SAY THAT WE'RE WORKING FOR ALL PEOPLE.

AND THAT'S, I THINK ALL WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IS CAN'T FURTHER DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THE REST OF THE GROUP BECAUSE OUR FOCUS IS HERE.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND I GET EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING, MY HESITANCY, AS I SAID EARLIER, IS THE BANDWIDTH ISSUE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT THAT WE'RE TACKLING RIGHT NOW, SEVEN EVIDENT FROM YOUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT TONIGHT TOO, GETTING SOME FOCAL AREAS.

BUT, UM, WHEN WE, WHEN WE ADD THAT IT WILL, IT IS, IT IS PART OF BEING INCLUSIVE.

IT IS ANOTHER, IT, IT EXPANDS OUR AUDIENCE.

UM, ARE WE AS A NINE MEMBER COMMISSION PREPARED TO HANDLE? THAT IS THE QUESTION.

I THINK THAT WE ALL AGREED THAT AS NINE MEMBERS.

NO.

SO THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD FROM THAT? SO ARE WE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE KEEP THIS GROUP AS AN ALL INCLUSIVE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY, AND THEN PROPOSE OR RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE A SEPARATE COMMISSION FOCUSED ON RIGHTS, SYSTEMIC RACISM, THAT, UM, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE, I MEAN, I'M JUST TELLING FROM MY FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE THAT I SPOKE TO AND MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN I WAS APPROACHED TO ON THIS I DIDN'T INTERVIEW.

SO I WAS ONE OF THE FOUR WHEN I WAS APPROACHED BY THE MAYOR AND PEOPLE TO BE ON THIS.

UM, WE WERE GOING TO BE AN ALL INCLUSIVE AND ACTUAL TRUE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSIVE CULTURAL PERMISSION THAT WILL ADDRESS NOT JUST ADDRESS ISSUES, BUT ALSO CELEBRATE OUR CULTURE, CELEBRATE OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES, UM, MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES, OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITY.

UM, AND, AND WE WERE AN ADVISORY COMMISSION AND IT SAYS THAT IN OUR THING TOO, THAT WE WILL, I'M RESPONSIBLE RIGHT.

TO MAKE THE CITY COUNCIL TO MINIMIZE THE EFFECTS OF CIVIL RIGHTS AND APPRECIATION OF DIVERSITY WITHIN THE CITY TO MEET THESE GOALS, WE WILL BE VERY WRITING SERVICES AS EDUCATION PROGRAMS, PROMOTE GLOBAL THINKING.

AND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ALL DOING THAT ALREADY STATED IN THERE, WE HAVE TO BE ALL INCLUSIVE TO THE, ALL THE MARGINALIZED GROUPS THAT ARE, THAT FIT WHEN WE DO DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION WORK.

SO THAT'S WHAT I, SO I THINK AT THIS POINT, IF, IF WE WANT A COMMISSION JUST TO FOCUS ON SYSTEMIC RACE AND RACE, THEN THERE HAS TO BE A SECOND, A SECOND COMMISSION.

I MEAN THIS, UM, FROM HOW I'M READING IT.

NOW, THAT IS WHAT, AND THIS, WHAT I'M READING OUT IS WHAT WAS APPROACHED TO ME WHEN I WAS ASKED TO JOIN TO BE PART OF THIS.

SO, I MEAN, THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

IT'S LIKE TARA SAYING, WE CAN'T SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS FOR ALL PEOPLE AND NOT, AND BE NOT INCLUSIVE OURSELVES.

SO I MEAN, IF THAT IS THAT IF WE WANT TO DO THAT, BUT LIKE I SAID, IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM THAT BEING OUR MAIN FOCUS RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING, NO GROUP CAN DO EVERYTHING, BUT WE CAN DO OUR MAIN FOCUS RIGHT NOW WAS ADDRESSING THAT.

AND THEN WE DOWN THE LINE, THIS IS LEGISLATION THAT WE'RE SETTING UP FOR YEARS TO COME FOR ALL FUTURE COMMISSIONS, NOT JUST WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S WHY THIS, THIS PAPERWORK HAS TO SAY LEGISLATION HAS TO BE THAT INCLUSIVE, MY OPINION, THAT IT HAS TO BE ALL INCLUSIVE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE A TRULY ALL INCLUSIVE DIVERSITY GROUP.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I THINK THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO TABLE THIS DISCUSSION.

UM, BECAUSE ONE, I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE CITY AND FIND OUT, EVEN IF YOU KNOW, WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE, UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT RHONDA DOES STATE, OR IF THE CITY IS OPEN TO STATE ANOTHER COMMISSION AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

SO I'LL DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT.

AND IF YOU ALL HAVE, UM,

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ANY ADDITIONAL INPUT THAT YOU WANT TO SEND TO ME, PLEASE DO.

UM, SO WE CAN MAKE A DECISION ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS MADAM CHAIR.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SHARE THIS ITEM, OUR JANUARY MEETING.

WE PROBABLY MOVE IT BEFORE WE VOTE ON THAT.

I'M SORRY.

CAN WE GET IT? I DON'T THINK IT'S THE CITY.

I THINK WE HAVE COUNCIL WHO VOTES ON US ON THIS AND APPROVES THIS, THE, UM, YOLANDA.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD REACH OUT TO COUNCIL TO THE MAYOR TO SEE IF WE, UM, SOME FEEDBACK ON THIS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T, LIKE I SAID, IF THEY'RE NOT OPEN AND MAYBE WHAT THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THIS AS WELL, TOO, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT THIS SECOND ONE, THEN THERE'S NO POINT OF US HAVING A DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THEM APPROVING IT.

RIGHT.

SO IF WE CAN SOME SORT OF FEEDBACK FROM THEM ON SOMETHING THAT WE HAD PROPOSED AND WHAT THEY'RE THINKING THAT WOULD BE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD BE, HOW WE WOULD APPROACH THAT WITHOUT HAVING ATTENDING THEIR MEETING NEXT WEEK OR BRINGING IT UP AT THEIR MEETING NEXT WEEK.

CAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY TIME THEY'RE MEETING IS NEXT WEEK.

AND THEN THEY'RE ALL FOR THE REST OF DECEMBER.

IF WE WANT TO HAVE CARE, I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY.

I WAS LIKE, IF WE WANT TO HAVE THAT FEEDBACK IN TIME FOR THE