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          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD 
          [ AGENDA CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION Remote Meeting December 3, 2020 7:00 P.M.  ]
EVENING, EVERYONE. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          OKAY. 
          SEVEN OH THREE. 
          GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING OF THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY ACTION COMMISSION. 
          UH, KATIE, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL MR. REAGAN, MISS HONAKER PRESENT MR. STEVENS. 
          MR. RAMIREZ, MR. RICHARDSON, COME HERE MS. STEVENS, MS. SIMONE PRESENT. 
          AND PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT YOUR, UH, ERIC STEVENS AND YOLANDA STEPHENS ARE EXCUSED. 
          THEY WILL BE ATTENDING THE MEETING, JOINING THE MEETING LATER. 
          UM, HAS EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK OVER THE MINUTES FROM THE NOTES NOVEMBER 5TH MEETING? SHOULD WE NOT APPROVE THE AGENDA FIRST? I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT. 
          I DIDN'T LET ME GO BACK AND DO THAT IS I NEED TO ACTUALLY GET PERMISSION TO CARRY THE MEETING FORWARD SINCE I AM THE VICE CHAIR. 
          SO, UM, LET ME GO AHEAD AND GO BACK AND DO THAT. 
          IF SOMEONE WOULD MAKE A MOTION FOR ME TO GO AHEAD AND SHARE THE MEETING IN THE ABSENCE OF OUR CHAIR PERSON, VICE CHAIR, I MOVE THAT YOU WOULD PRESIDE OVER THE MEETING IN THE ABSENCE OF CARE OR THIS EVENING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? THE MOTION WAS MADE AND CARRIED. 
          UM, I'M SORRY. 
          THE MOTION WAS MADE IN SPECKING IT. 
          KATIE, COULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? YES. 
          MS. PRESENT, MR. RAMIREZ, YOU PRESENT MR. RICHARDSON? I'M HERE MS. SEMILLON, MR. AKINS, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          I THINK WE'RE ALL SUPPOSED TO BE SAYING HI AND NOT PRESENT VOTING FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A PROBLEM IN EVERY ISSUE, BUT, UH, I VOTE YES. 
          START IT OFF. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, THE, I, THEY CARRY THE MOST OR THE YESES CARRY THE MOTION, CORRECT? YES. 
          I HAVE ONE QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE MOTION, ALTHOUGH IT HAS ALREADY PASSED, WOULD IT NOT BE INCUMBENT IN THE CHARGE OF THE, THE CULTURE TO STAND IN THE ABSENCE OF THE CHAIR AND THAT BEING THE CASE? WHY WOULD IT NEED TO BE A, A MOTION TO APPROVE CHAIR, THE CULTURE TO CARRY A MOTION AT THIS MEETING IN THE ABSENCE OF FEAR? THAT'S HOW I'VE SEEN IT DONE. 
          SO YEAH, IF, IF NOT SOMEONE, SOMEONE WILL CORRECT ME, TRUST ME, THEY WILL, I'LL GET A NICE EMAIL OR SOMETHING, BUT YEAH, BECAUSE THE CHAIR IS DIVIDING CHAIR OVER THIS COMMISSION. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME THAT CHANGES, I DO HAVE TO GET PERMISSION TO CHAIR THE MEETING GUYS MIGHT NOT WANT ME TO CHAIR THE MEETING, SO, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, MOVING FORWARD, EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO VIEW THE AGENDA, CORRECT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND HAS EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 5TH? YES. 
          YES. 
          RIGHT. 
          ARE THERE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE MINUTES AT THIS POINT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
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ON PAGE THREE UNDER ITEM SIX. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UNDER PARAGRAPH MARTIN LUTHER KING EVENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          15TH LINE IN THAT PARAGRAPH WHERE IT STARTS WITH STEVEN. 
          OKAY. 
          AS MISS LOU SHOULD BE SPELLED L U AND NOT L O U. 
          OKAY. 
          WAIT, THAT IS A NICKNAME MRS. LUCILLE DEAD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO L U N D L E. 
          YES. 
          UM, THE LAST NAME IS SPELLED CORRECTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL CHANGE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, KATIE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THESE MINUTES BEFORE WE ACCEPT THEM? ALL RIGHT, THEN LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT IF YOU ARE READY TO , WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK, I THINK. 
          YEP. 
          I'M ACTUALLY TO FILE IN. 
          GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND, KATIE, DO YOU HAVE A DIAL IN NUMBER THE MEETING? LET ME LOOK AND SEE IF THERE IS ONE. 
          HOLD ON. 
          CAUSE I THINK I'D BE THE ISSUE I'M ON MY TABLET, RHONDA. 
          THE DIAL-IN IS +1 440-462-0573, BUT THE PEN IS SIX SEVEN SEVEN ONE THREE EIGHT EIGHT FIVE ZERO POUND SIX SEVEN SEVEN ONE THREE EIGHT EIGHT FIVE ZERO POUNDS. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SORRY GUYS. 
          UM, OKAY, SO IT'S SAYING THAT, THAT PIN, UM, YEAH, SO I'M JUST GOING TO MUTE IN-BETWEEN THREE AND NOT SPEAK. 
          UM, ALL RIGHT. 
          SO ARE WE, WE ARE GOOD WITH ACCEPTING THE MINUTES. 
          YES. 
          CAN YOU MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES WITH THE CHANGE? OKAY. 
          UM, UM, UM, UH, YEAH. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION FORMERLY? OKAY. 
          I MOTION TO ACCEPT THE NOVEMBER MEETING MINUTES WITH THE AMENDED CHANGE SUGGESTED BY MS. NEWBIE, MS. BARRETT SECOND TO THE MOTION. 
          WAS THAT ERIC? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE MOTION WAS MADE BY MIA, INSPECTED IT BY ERIC. 
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OKAY. 
          ALRIGHTY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED A VOTE THERE. 
          UM, BUT JUST TO REFLECT THAT THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED AS WRITTEN, UH, WITH THE AMENDMENT MAY. 
          ALRIGHTY. 
          SO, UM, ANY OLD BUSINESS, SO IT LOOKS LIKE PROCLAMATION AND RESOLUTION IS THE FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA FOR OLD BUSINESS. 
          NOW I DID SEND OUT THE PROCLAMATION TO MOST EVERYONE. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK THAT ERIC RICHARD OR ESTEBAN RAMIREZ, DID YOU ALL GET THE ACCLIMATION TO LOOK AT? I DIDN'T GET IT. 
          YOU DID. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO I, I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE SEES THE PROCLAMATION SO THAT YOU CAN ADD ANY SUGGESTIONS OR CHANGES TO THE PROCLAMATION. 
          UM, AND THEN DR. 
          AKINS DID MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT MAYBE WE INVITE OR BOARD TO A WORKING GROUP, UM, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROCLAMATION. 
          UM, SO I GUESS I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN SOME DISCUSSION ON HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROCLAMATION, UM, SO THAT WE CAN, UM, TAKE SOME ACTION ON THIS AND GET THIS RECOMMENDATION AS A COUNCIL. 
          SO AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR UP FOR ANY DISCUSSION DISCUSSION REGARDING TO ANYTHING REGARDING PATIENTS TO THE PROCLAMATION. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT WITH REGARD TO THE PROCLAMATION AND RESOLUTION, OF COURSE, PROCLAMATION HAVING THE MAYOR IN A LIKE FINAL WORKING SESSION. 
          UM, CAUSE I THINK WE'RE COMING TO THAT POINT WITH THIS IS, IS A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE SIGNED BY HIM AND, AND ANNOUNCED BY HIM. 
          SO THAT WAY HE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THAT LAST PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, I LIKE THAT IDEA THAT FRED HAD MADE TO HAVE HIM INVOLVED AND I THINK HE WOULD BE, HE WOULD BE, HE WOULD ENTERTAIN THAT IDEA. 
          NO. 
          WELL, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF WE NEED TO SET THE WORKING SESSION AS A PERMISSION, BUT I DO AGREE IT WILL BE GOOD FOR HIM TO HAVE THAT DIALOGUE WITH US. 
          WE HAVE A FINAL VERSION, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. 
          I MADE SOME NOTES, MADAM CHAIR ON WHAT EXACTLY IT WAS THAT I HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH. 
          AND I'LL SEE IF I CAN FIND THOSE AND SEND THEM TO, UH, TO YOUR LINES. 
          MOSTLY IT WAS SOME THINGS ON THERE THAT WERE KIND OF POINTED TOWARD, UM, THE ABILITY TO INFLUENCE OR THE ABILITY TO HAVE PEOPLE DO THINGS, UM, MAY OR MAY NOT BE OUTSIDE OF THE, UH, THE, THE, THE SCOPE OF RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS COMMITTEE AND MIGHT EVEN FURTHER BE OUTSIDE OF THAT, OF THE MAYOR. 
          SO, UM, IN, IN, IN LIGHT OF THAT, JUST TAKING A LOOK AT IT FROM, UH, FROM A, UM, A DIFFERENT LENS, IF YOU WOULD, UM, PROCLAMATION SHOULD BE JUST THAT A PROCLAMATION OF A PARTICULAR BODY, NOT INVOLVING ACTIONS FROM SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS. 
          AND IT APPEARED AS THOUGH THERE WAS SOME OF THAT, THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE NEEDED TO BE CLEANED UP. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          DEFINITELY WANT ALL OF YOU GUYS TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND ADD YOUR INPUT. 
          UM, YOU DO HAVE EDITING RIGHTS. 
          SO AS EDIT THE DOCUMENT, I WILL GO THROUGH AND, UM, ONCE EVERYONE KIND OF PUTS THEIR EDITS AND I'LL CLEAN IT UP AND CREATE A SECOND DRAFT THAT WE CAN GO OVER, UM, EVEN BEFORE PRESENTING THAT TO THE MAYOR. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE HE CAN GIVE HIS, YOU KNOW, HIS INFLUENCE, UM, AND KIND OF GIVE SOME DIRECTION ON WHERE HE WANTS TO GO WITH THE DOCUMENT FROM THAT POINT MOVING FORWARD. 
          AND I MAKE A COUPLE OF GRAMMATICAL CHANGES THAT WAS IN THERE, BUT IT, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT SHOWS UP ON ONCE WE DO IT. 
          IF IT SHOWS YOU 
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ON THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT OF WHAT CHANGES ARE MADE, THAT WE KNOW, I WASN'T SURE HOW, HOW THAT ALL WORKS ROCKS. 
          I'M GONNA DO. 
          I'M GONNA CREATE ANOTHER DOC AND INVITE EVERYONE TO THE MOST RECENT DOCUMENT, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS EDITING RIGHTS TO THE MOST RECENT DOCUMENT. 
          AS YOU ALL MAKE EDITS, I CAN SEE THOSE EDITS WORK COMMENTS. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE EDITED. 
          YOU KNOW, DR. 
          AKINS MADE SOME COMMENTS, YOU CAN MAKE COMMENTS OR EDITS EITHER WAY, BUT I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT IT'S MOVING FORWARD AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS WITH IT. 
          UM, AND THEN HOPE IS THAT THIS PROCLAMATION WILL TURN INTO A FORMAL RESOLUTION. 
          AT SOME POINT IT WILL BECOME A PART OF A FORMAL RESOLUTION. 
          UM, ONE THING ALSO YOLANDA HAD SENT SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT SOME OTHER CITIES THAT, UH, TROTWOOD HAD A REALLY NICE RESOLUTION OR PROCLAMATION THAT THEY DID, UM, HANDING OUT AGAINST RACISM. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO I THINK THERE WERE COUPLE OF OTHER CITIES THAT WE HAVE, AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SEEING THOSE DOCUMENTS, I'M HAPPY TO FORWARD THOSE TO YOU. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE DOCUMENTS AS WELL. 
          THIS WOULD BE GREAT TO START A NEW YEAR WITH THIS PROCLAMATION. 
          SO, AND I THINK WE'RE, AT THAT POINT, WE'RE READY TO, AFTER INITIAL MEETINGS TO MAYBE HAVE THIS IN JANUARY, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US START A NEW NEW YEAR ON A NEW, A NEW PATH. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S WHEN I WORRY TODAY TOO MANY PAPERS. 
          SO, UM, I THINK BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO WANT TO TAKE ACTION ON. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD, UM, WITH INVITING THE MAYOR TO PARTICIPATE IN A WORKING SESSION, UM, WITH REGARD TO OUR PROCLAMATION. 
          UM, SO IF SOMEONE WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          I SECOND THAT MOTION. 
          SO THE MOTION HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE INVITING MAYOR TO A WORKING SESSION. 
          UH, KATIE, COULD YOU CALL HIM OR CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? RIGHT? MR. RAMIREZ, MR. RICHARDSON, I SAW MS. STEVENS ENTER. 
          SO I, I, MR. REAGAN'S I THINK YOU'RE ON MUTE. 
          SORRY. 
          YOU'RE ON MUTE, MS. HANUKKAH. 
          I DO THE, I CARRIED CARRIED IT. 
          UM, WHEN I WOULD LIKE TO PASS THE, UM, THE SEAT BACK TO THE CHAIR, SINCE SHE IS PRESENT, I'M GONNA LET YOU TAKE IT, UM, FOR THE NEXT FIVE MINUTES AS I GET SETTLED, JUST WALKED IN THE DOOR. 
          I REALIZE MY INTERNET CONNECTION. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THEN, UM, MOVING FORWARD THE MISSION. 
          UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW YOLANDA HAS WANTED US TO TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT OUR LEGISLATION, OUR MISSION, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE COMMISSION WAS ESTABLISHED TO DO. 
          UM, AND I THINK WE DO NEED TO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THAT. 
          I THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO ENSURE THAT OUR ACTIONS AND OUR ACTIVITIES ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR LEGISLATION. 
          UM, AND ALL OF US WERE INTER INTERVIEW BASED UPON THAT MISSION. 
          SO I KNOW THAT 
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THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOLANDA HAS WANTED US TO LOOK AT FROM THE BEGINNING. 
          SO DOES EVERYBODY HAVE A COPY OF THE LEGISLATION IN FRONT OF THEM? YES. 
          I AM HAPPY TO SEND A QUICK EMAIL IF YOU GUYS JUST LOOK AT IT ON THE SCREEN, UM, WHEN ARE YOU ABLE TO PULL IT UP AND SHARE IT? I, I CAN, BUT I, I AM ON MY TABLET. 
          SO LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THAT BE THAT GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THAT. 
          UM, EARLIER THIS WEEK, ANOTHER COPY OF IT PROBABLY MONDAY, RHONDA, I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN ONCE I GET IT PULLED UP. 
          IF IT WOULD MAKE LIFE EASIER FOR YOU, I HAVE IT PULLED UP. 
          SURE. 
          I MEAN, DO WE HAVE THE OPTION? YEAH. 
          YOU ALL CAN SHARE. 
          LET'S SEE HERE TO GO AHEAD AND SEND IT AGAIN. 
          EVERYBODY'S SO YOU GUYS SEE IT. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          WELL, I'M GOING TO DO THIS AND STEFAN WHO YOU HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO GOOD THERE. 
          PERFECT. 
          SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT. 
          EVERYBODY SEE THAT. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND SO THIS LEGISLATION WAS ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER BY OUR CITY MANAGER, ROB SHELMAR. 
          UM, AND SO YOLANDA, AND LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY FOR ME TO PASS THE TIME BACK TO YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO LOOKING AT THIS DOCUMENT AS THE LEGISLATION, AND AS RHONDA MENTIONED, IT WAS TOGETHER BY OUR CITY MANAGER. 
          AND OUR PLAN WAS TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THIS AND MAKE, YOU KNOW, ENSURE THAT IT ALIGNS WITH OUR VISION OF OUR COMMISSION. 
          UM, NOW THAT WE'RE ALL ON BOARD AND I SENT THIS OUT JUST TO GET SOME INPUT FROM, UH, THE COMMISSION TO SEE IF THERE WERE THINGS THAT ARE TERMINOLOGIES THAT WE WANTED TO CHANGE. 
          UM, NOT NECESSARILY NOT NECESSARILY THE CHANGING THE INTENT OF THE COMMISSION OR, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE COMMISSION, BUT TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE WORDING, UM, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS IN OUR LAST MEETING, OR IT MIGHT'VE BEEN PRIOR TO THAT, UM, WE HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH THE MISSION STATEMENT AND THE WAY THAT IT READS. 
          SO, UM, I ASKED FOR INPUT ON THAT. 
          UH, WE WERE PARTICULARLY, I THINK THAT PEOPLE WERE KIND OF, UM, AT LEAST I KNOW I WAS LOOKING AT THE WORD, UM, TOLERANCE AND, UM, AND THEN THE DIVERSITY AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT INCLUDED INCLUSION AS WELL. 
          SO WE WERE GOING, WE WERE LOOKING AT AS A COMMISSION AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ANY CHANGES TO, UM, THE MISSION STATEMENT OR ANY WORDING THAT YOU SEE WITHIN THE LEGISLATION AS IT'S. 
          SO, UM, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY CHANGES THAT YOU ALL FOR SAW THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THAT. 
          I KNOW, UM, I HAD BROUGHT UP A SUGGESTION UNDER THE PURPOSES AND IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMISSION. 
          IT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE MISSION BE INCLUDING DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION. 
          INCLUSION HAS TO BE BEYOND JUST RACE AND ETHNICITY. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE NAME OF THE COMMISSION SELF AS CULTURE AND DIVERSITY. 
          UM, WE NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER ISSUES AND UNDER MARGINALIZED GROUPS THAT ARE IN OUR AREA AS WELL. 
          AND SO I SUGGESTED ADDING UNDER THE PURPOSE OF, UM, WHERE'S THE DISCRIMINATION BECAUSE OF RACE AND ETHNICITY, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, TO DUSK DISCRIMINATION. 
          I SUGGESTED PUTTING SEXUAL ORIENTATION, RELIGION, AND GENDER. 
          AND I THINK IT WAS, UM, TO ADD THAT TO BE INCLUSIVE. 
          I MEAN, 
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IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, THESE ARE MARGINALIZED GROUPS IN OUR AREA THAT LIVE IN OUR CITY. 
          AND, UM, IT DOESN'T, I, AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT, THE INITIAL INTENT OF THE, UM, OF WHY THIS WAS FORMED, BUT WE, WE, WE CAN INCLUDE ALL OUR, WE SHOULD INCLUDE ALL OUR, UM, UH, MARGINALIZED GROUPS CAN BE DONE BOTH. 
          I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST FOCUSING ON RACE AND ETHNICITY. 
          I MEAN, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAD THE INCIDENT WITH OUR BUSINESS, UM, THE LOCAL BUSINESS AND SOME OF THEIR BELIEF IS, IS BASED ON THAT SOME OF THE TEXTS THAT WE'RE GETTING IS BASED ON THEIR RELIGION. 
          SO THEY ARE A MARGINALIZED GROUP. 
          SO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO ADD ON TO THE PURPOSE. 
          AND I DID NOT, UM, FOR ME, IT, I DON'T SEE IT AS IT CHANGING THE INTENT AND THE WORK OF THIS GROUP. 
          IT JUST INCLUDES WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING DIVERSITY. 
          INCLUSION INCLUDES ALL THOSE MARGINALIZED GROUPS. 
          AND THAT WAS MY, MY SUGGESTION TO THAT LINE. 
          SO I WILL SAY THAT, UM, AS WE MENTIONED, THE LEGISLATION WAS DEVELOPED BY THE CITY MANAGER, THE NAME OF GROUP, WAS IT THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS? THE INTENT OF THE, THIS COMMISSION WAS CAME OUT OF ISSUE WITH GEORGE FREUD. 
          UM, IN, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY WENT IN ON THIS ERIC AND MYSELF BECAUSE WE WANTED TO PREVENT SIMILAR SITUATIONS FROM HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND THAT WAS RELATED TO RACE SPECIFICALLY. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, MY, UM, I WAS APPROACHED WITH A DIFFERENT, UH, WHAT THIS GROUP IN THE LONG RUN WAS GOING TO BE REPRESENTED ALL OUR MARGINALIZED GROUPS IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND WE WOULD CELEBRATE OUR CULTURE, OUR INCLUSION AND, AND DIVERSITY. 
          AND TO ME, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION IS MUCH MORE THAN JUST RACE. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          WE CAN STILL FOCUS ON WHAT THAT IS, AND THAT IS, AND WE SHOULD, AND WE OUGHT TO, BUT AGAIN, IF WE WERE GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, IT HAS TO INCLUDE, WE HAVE TO BE INCLUSIVE. 
          I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT IN OUR MISSION STATEMENT, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT BE INCLUSION OF ALL OF THOSE UNDERMINE THOSE MARGINALIZED GROUPS DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE TAKE AWAY FROM THE WORK THAT WHAT THE INITIAL INTENT WAS, BUT IN THE LONG RUN, THIS, THIS COMMISSION IS GOING TO LAST FOUR YEARS AND I'M DOWN AND DOWN THE LINE. 
          SO, I MEAN, THIS IS WORK THAT WITH A GROUP OF 90 PEOPLE CAN BE DONE. 
          SO, I MEAN, I DO IT WITH ME, ONE STAFF. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, TO INCLUDE ALL DIFFERENT ASPECTS BECAUSE, UM, WE HAVE ALL THESE INTERSECTIONALITIES BETWEEN OUR MARGINALIZED GROUPS AND WE HAVE ISSUES IN THE CITY THAT, THAT THESE GROUPS FACE. 
          SO WE CAN BE THAT SOUNDING BOARD. 
          I MEAN, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A BIAS INCIDENT REPORTING, LIKE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, WE CAN'T SAY, OH, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH RACE, THEN WE WON'T ADDRESS IT. 
          BUT IF IT HAS TO DO WITH DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, IT HAS TO INCLUDE THOSE MARGINALIZED GROUPS. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING TO MAKE THAT CHANGE ON THAT, THAT IS TO MAKE CLEAR IF WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION THAN WE ARE, WE'RE GOING TO BE INCLUDING THOSE GROUPS, BUT THAT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY WHAT THE INTENT OF THE GROUP WAS OR WHAT THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST SUGGESTING ON THAT. 
          SO RHONDA, I MEAN, YOLANDA YOU'RE YOU'RE MUTED. 
          I DO UNDERSTAND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS A MARGINALIZED GROUP, UM, AND WE NEED TO BE INCLUSIVE. 
          UM, MY, MY CONCERN IS THAT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SO MUCH TO DO IN TERMS OF JUST LOOKING AT THE RACE ISSUE AND THE CULTURE ISSUE THAT I AM NOT. 
          UM, I DO NOT WANT TO BROADEN THE PURPOSE OF THIS SUBMISSION BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH TO DO IN THAT PORTION. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS WHAT, UM, THAT'S WHAT THE INITIAL INTENT WAS WITH THE COMMISSION. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE VOICED. 
          THE COMMISSION IS STARTING OUT AS WE HAD PEOPLE INTERVIEW AND, YOU KNOW, UM, SHARE THEIR INTERESTS TO THAT NATURE. 
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I SAID, THIS IS THE ACTUAL LEGISLATION, NOT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU EMIT THIS FROM THE LEGISLATION, THAT MEANS DOWN THE LINE WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO, AND WE HAVE OTHER IDEAS TO FOCUS ON, WE DON'T HAVE THAT LEGISLATION ANYMORE. 
          SO, I MEAN, THIS IS THE LEGISLATION DOESN'T MEAN THAT OUR FIRST FOCUS ISN'T ON WHAT WE HAD DONE, THE WORK THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TO GET THIS INITIAL STARTED. 
          BUT I THINK THE WORDING IN THE OFFICIAL LEGISLATION HAS TO INCLUDE ARE MARGINALIZED GROUPS CALLED THE MARGINALIZED GROUPS. 
          IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST SAYING. 
          IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T DO THE WORK THAT THIS WAS INITIALLY ON THAT OR THAT, THAT ISN'T OUR MAIN FOCUS AT THIS MOMENT, BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE AT THIS MOMENT BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING THIS ESTABLISHED, WE'RE WORKING ON THIS AND TRYING TO GET THIS WORKED OUT. 
          I JUST THINK THIS IS AN OFFICIAL FORM. 
          THAT'S GOING TO BE ON RECORD WITH THE CITY AND THAT'S GOING TO BE WHAT THE, UM, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE RULING ON AS IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUR BASIS ON, FOR FURTHER FUTURE COMMISSIONS BEYOND US. 
          SO I WAS JUST THINKING THAT IF WE'RE GOING, IF THIS IS GOING TO BE THE OFFICIAL LEGISLATION, IT SHOULD STATE STATE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, AGAIN, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T WORK ON THAT MAIN FOCUS THAT THIS COMMISSION WAS STARTED ON THAT'S CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY THAT HAS TO BE FOCUSED ON NOW GETTING THIS ESTABLISHED THAT THIS DOESN'T LIMIT US FROM DOING THAT. 
          THIS JUST MAKES OUR, OUR OFFICIALS FORM LEGISLATION THAT IT'S, WE ARE A TRUE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION GROUP. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK FOR ME, THE, UM, I COMPLETELY AGREE, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME WHEN THE SITUATIONS WITH, UH, GEORGE FLOYD, BRIANNA TAYLOR, OH MY GOSH, THAILAND, ENGLISH PROSPER, JOHN CRAWFORD, THERE'S BEEN SO MANY. 
          UM, AND WHEN THE STEPHENS WENT TO THE TABLE TO SPEAK TO THE MAYOR, THIS WAS SOMETHING I HAD TALKED TO MAYOR GORE ABOUT WHEN I WAS ON AMC. 
          THERE'S A NEED FOR THIS, BUT I THINK THERE ARE SO MANY HUGE CONCERNS WITH, TO RACE. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT RACE AND HIRING PRACTICES, WHEN YOU LOOK AT RACE AND PROPER POLICING, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT RACE AND ACCESS TO HOUSING, THERE ARE SO MANY ISSUES, BUT WITHIN THAT, MIA, I DO AGREE THERE ARE MARGINALIZED GROUPS WITHIN RACE. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UM, THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY, OR WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GAY BI THAT THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY THERE'S ISSUES WITHIN THAT, BUT THIS COMMISSION WAS ESTABLISHED TO ADDRESS SYSTEMIC RACISM. 
          AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DON'T SEE IN THIS LEGISLATION. 
          AND I THINK IF WE DON'T ADDRESS THE SYSTEMIC ISSUES, WE'LL NEVER GET TO THE DIVERSITY AND THE INCLUSIVITY AND, AND, AND WHAT I'VE SEEN HAPPEN SOMETIMES IS GOVERNMENTS ARE AFRAID TO TALK ABOUT THAT PIECE. 
          PROP WOOD WAS VERY BOLD THAT CAME OUT AND SAID, THIS IS OUR STANCE ON SYSTEMIC RACISM. 
          I HAVE NOT SEEN OUR CITY DO THAT YET. 
          AND I THINK THAT UNTIL WE CAN REALLY GET TO THE ROOT OF THE SYSTEMIC ISSUE, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO. 
          SO, SO DO WE FORGET THE SYSTEMIC PART AND JUST MOVE ON TO THE DIVERSITY PIECE OR DO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE SYSTEMIC PART? AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE, AS A COMMISSION HAVE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT HOW HAVE WE ADDRESSED THAT PIECE. 
          I DO THINK WE NEED A VISION. 
          WE HAVE A MISSION AND OUR VISION IS SOMETHING WE MAY NEVER ACCOMPLISH. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE WORKING TOWARDS THAT FOREVER. 
          RIGHT NOW. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A VISION AS A PART OF OUR LEGISLATION. 
          SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CREATE. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE ISN'T A VISION ON THIS. 
          THERE'S JUST A PURPOSE IN THE MISSION. 
          SO THAT, THAT COULD BE ADDED ON AS A VISION, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE WHAT WE WOULD, WE'RE VISIONING THIS GROUP TO BE. 
          I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE I SAID, I'M JUST SAYING, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND I'M JUST, IF THIS IS GOING TO BE THE OFFICIAL, 
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OFFICIAL LEGISLATIVE FORM, I, I LIKE TO SEE, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN THE WORDING OF ITS PURPOSE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT OUR FIRST FOCUS AND OUR MAIN FOCUS AT THIS MOMENT, ISN'T ADDRESSING THOSE BECAUSE LIKE YOU STATED, RHONDA, WE DON'T ADDRESS THOSE. 
          WE CAN'T WORK ON THE OTHER THING. 
          SO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          I'M SAYING JUST BECAUSE WE ADD THAT TO THE PURPOSE, DOESN'T TAKE AWAY WHAT OUR MAIN, FIRST INITIAL GOAL IS OF THIS GROUP OF GETTING THAT ESTABLISHED AND GETTING THAT WORK DONE. 
          BUT THIS ALSO DOESN'T US, WE'RE DOWN THE LINE WHERE WE ARE AT A SPACE OR A FUTURE GROUP CAN WORK, OR WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT POPS UP IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT, THAT HAS AFFECTED OUR LOCAL LGBQ TA RESIDENTS. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, OUR MUSLIM RESIDENTS HAPPENS IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN'T ADDRESS SUCH AS THE UNITY RALLY. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT WAS AN INCIDENT THAT WAS CAUSED BY, BY THEM BEING MUSLIMS, JUST IN CASE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS AN EXAMPLE, IF THAT DOES HAPPEN, WE CAN SEND TO A UNITY RALLY. 
          THEN THAT WOULD BE OUR COMMISSION THAT WOULD TAKE LEAD OF THAT, OR WELCOME A NEW BUSINESS COMING IN, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT. 
          UM, THAT'S WHAT I WAS, UM, MY SUGGESTION WAS ADDING THOSE, THOSE IN THERE. 
          IF WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION ON THERE TO ADD, ADD THE MARGINALIZED GROUPS LISTED IN THE PURPOSE. 
          BUT AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY THAT. 
          SO, UM, IT'S WHATEVER. 
          UM, I LIKE TO GET OTHER FEEDBACK TO SEE WHAT OTHER SAY, SO LET THEM SHARE MY SPEAK. 
          YES. 
          I SECOND ME AS OPINION. 
          UM, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, I MEAN, EVEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TERMINOLOGY REGARDING DIVERSITY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM A KNOLOGY REGARDING EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, ESPECIALLY IN MODERN TIMES, IT'S NOT A SPECIFIC TO RACE OR ETHNICITY, AND THERE'S AN OBVIOUS CONFLICTION WITH THE DEFINITION OF THOSE SPECIFIC TERMS AND WHAT WE HAVE WITHIN CHARTER AND LEGISLATION ITSELF. 
          UH, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE WHAT OUR COMMISSION IS ABLE TO ASK THE DIVERSITY, UH, AND, UH, CITIZEN ACTION COMMITTEE, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD HOLD TRUE TO WHAT THE TERM, WHAT THE, WHAT THE DEFINITION TO THAT DEFINITION OF DIVERSITY ACTUALLY MEETS, UM, WHICH INCLUDES ANYWHERE BETWEEN THE LGBT COMMUNITY TO RELIGION, AFFILIATION, TO, UH, GENDER, UH, AND ANY OTHER, UH, LABELS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH TERM DIVERSITY. 
          UM, IF WE ARE GOING TO FOCUS SOLELY ON ETHNICITY AND RACIAL TENSION RELATIONS, THEN I WOULD PROPOSE TO CHANGE THE NAME FROM CULTURAL AND DIVERSITY TO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE SPECIFIC TO WHAT THE COMMISSION'S AIMED TOWARD. 
          SO IF WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT RACIAL AND ETHNICITY, UH, ISSUES WITHIN THE CITY, UH, SPECIFICALLY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD REPRESENT IN OUR TITLE, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, UH, AND TERMINOLOGY ASSOCIATED WITH THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY IN MODERN TIMES IS A LOT MORE BROAD THAN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW AND DISCUSSION, WHICH IS RACIAL AND ETHNIC RELATIONS. 
          UH, IT'S NOT FOR OPPORTUNITY. 
          WE WOULD HAVE TO REVISE THAT TERMINOLOGY TO LOOK AT RACE AND RACE AND ETHNIC, ETHNIC ISSUES ITSELF. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE I'M SEEING THE CONFLICT NOW THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, UH, LOOKING AT THE DEFINITIONS, NOT ONLY WHAT BY, YOU KNOW, THE E O IT WAS BY WHERE THE D HE GOES BY, UM, THOSE ARE THE DEFINITIONS. 
          THOSE ARE THE DEFINITIONS THAT, THAT MOST OF, MOST OF STATE AGENCIES GO GO BY NOWADAYS COLLEGES, A LOT OF INSTITUTIONS GO BY, I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD TRUE TO THE TERM DIVERSITY, AND WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH OUR CHARTER AND OUR NAME TO REFLECT THE TRUE MEANING OF THE RACE AND ETHNIC SITUATIONS WE'RE TACKLING. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY DISCUSSION, UH, JUST EITHER, OR IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING DIVERSITY, UH, WE SHOULD HOLD TRUE TO THAT TERMINOLOGY. 
          IF WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS SOLELY ON RACIAL, ETHNIC RELATIONS, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY REWORD SOME OF THE BROAD LANGUAGE WE HAVE INSIDE OF THE CHARTER. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. PAUL. 
          UM, I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THAT AS WELL. 
          UM, I ALSO AGREE WITH WHAT MIANNA STEFAN ARE SAYING. 
          IF WE'RE SPEAKING OF INCLUSION, INCLUSION IS 
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ALL MARGINALIZED GROUPS, REGARDLESS OF, AND AGAIN, IT WON'T CHANGE THE FOCUS AREAS RIGHT NOW. 
          IT'S SOMETHING AS WE GROW AS A COMMISSION, I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT WE'VE BEEN TASKED WITH LOOKING AT THIS BIAS TO BASED SERVICES POLICY. 
          AND IN THAT THE LANGUAGE THAT IS USED IS MUCH BROADER. 
          AND I FEEL IF WE'VE BEEN TASKED WITH ALIGNING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ACROSS THE BOARD, WE SHOULD BE USING THE SAME INCLUSIVE LANGUAGE IN ALL OF THOSE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. 
          I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR FROM, FROM THE, UH, THE MEN AS WELL. 
          AND I MEAN, ONCE AGAIN, THIS, THIS COMMISSION WAS ESTABLISHED AFTER GEORGE FLOYD WAS, WAS KILLED IN A WAY THAT HE WAS, WE HAD THE PROTEST IN OUR CITY, AND WE KNEW THAT IT WAS POSSIBLE THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD HAPPEN IN OUR CITY. 
          SO I'M SITTING HERE AND I'M LOOKING AT FOUR STRONG MEN OF COLOR. 
          WHAT ARE YOU ALL I, I HEARD FROM YOU A STEFAN, BUT WHAT ARE YOU ALL THINK ABOUT THIS? I MEAN, I TOLD HIM, HE AGREE WITH, WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL HAD SAID, HOW DO WE GET TO THE ISSUE OF THE SYSTEMIC RACISM ADDRESSING THAT? HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT UNDER OUR CURRENT LEGISLATION? IT, IF I MIGHT, YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE AN IDENTITY ISSUE, UM, AT LEAST BASED ON HOW IT'S BEEN ARTICULATED HERE. 
          UM, SO WE, WE CAN TAKE ONE OR TWO PATHS, EITHER ADDRESS THE NAME OR THE LEGISLATION OR THE CHARGE, UM, ARTISTS WHOSE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE, I GUESS, IS THE QUESTION THAT WE WOULD ASK THEM. 
          THE ANSWER TO THAT IS PROBABLY NOT, THERE'S SOME BLEED OVER, RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE HESITATION IS, RIGHT? HOW DO YOU ADDRESS, UM, SOCIAL AND, AND, UM, SOCIAL JUSTICE ISSUES WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE, UH, THE, THE ISSUE OF, UH, DISCRIMINATION AND THE WAY BLACK MEN ARE BEING TREATED, OR PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE BEING TREATED IN THIS COUNTRY? I DON'T THINK THOSE THINGS ARE GONNA BE SEPARATED. 
          SO IT MIGHT BE THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE TO CHANGE THE NAME. 
          BUT I THINK THE PROPER THING TO DO, IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S WHERE WE DECIDED WHERE WE WANTED TO GO, BUT THE PROPER THING TO DO, I THINK WOULD TO MAKE THIS ALL INCLUSIVE AND, UM, AND ADD THE TERMS OF ILLUSION TO THE CHARGE OR TO THE LEGISLATION, WE CAN STILL, THEN THAT WAY WE'RE NOT PIGEONHOLED INTO ADDRESSING ONE SPECIFIC SOCIAL INJUSTICE. 
          UM, AND THAT MIGHT BE JUST BASED ON THE NAME AND WHAT, WHAT IT IS, UH, WE FEEL AND BELIEVE AND THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING, I THINK, TO ADD INCLUSION. 
          YEAH. 
          IT MAY NOT BE WHAT WE WANT TO DO, BUT IS IT THE RIGHT THING TO DO? AND I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR THIS COMMISSION. 
          I THINK ONE THING WE NEED TO DO AND NOT TO JUST MUDDY THE WATER, BUT WE NEED TO ADD PEOPLE TO THIS COMMISSION IS SMALL. 
          UM, AT LEAST FROM WHAT I SEE FOR THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN ON DOING, AND THE DIFFERENT PATHS THAT WE'RE GOING DOWN, WE NEED TO ADD MORE PEOPLE TO, UH, TO, UH, TO CREATE A LARGER IMPACT. 
          AND THAT MIGHT HELP US SOLVE THAT PROBLEM OF INCLUSION AND BE ABLE TO ATTACK SOME OF THOSE THINGS WELL, COULD BE TWO DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS OR TWO DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, FOCAL AREAS, UM, ERIC OR ERIC. 
          SURE. 
          RIGHT. 
          I, I AGREE WITH FRED. 
          I MEAN, I'M DEFINITELY A FAVOR, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE SYSTEMIC RACISM. 
          I MEAN, WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE AND THE FOUNDATION GET IT. 
          UM, AND I DO THINK THAT SHOULD BE A PRIMARY FOCUS OF THIS, BUT I ALSO WOULD AGREE THAT, UM, WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, BE THIS TOTAL INCLUSION SCENARIO. 
          I DON'T THINK TO NUMBER NINE IS THE RIGHT ANSWER EITHER. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S JUST KINDA, YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHT, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I, I, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE INCLUSION. 
          I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT, UM, AT ALL, BUT I JUST AGREE THAT THE SYSTEMIC RACISM, IN MY OPINION SHOULD BE 
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THE PRIMARY FOCUS AT THIS POINT. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS IS ERIC. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M JUST GOING TO, I GUESS WHAT ERIC AND FRED SAID, YEAH, TOTALLY AGREE. 
          YOU KNOW, SYSTEMIC RACISM HAS TO BE THE PARTY. 
          THAT'S WHAT OBVIOUSLY LED TO THE FORMATION OF THIS GROUP. 
          AND SO, AND THAT'S WHERE THE EMPHASIS SHOULD BE. 
          AND SO RIGHT WITH THE, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE CURRENT NAME THAT WE HAVE, UM, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, BY INCLUDING ALL GROUPS, I GUESS IT DOESN'T, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY TAKE AWAY FROM, FROM BEING WHAT OUR PARTY IS AND WHAT OUR FOCUS IS. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IF THAT'S, IF THE FOCUS IS TO BE STRICTLY ON RACE AND ETHNICITY, IF YOU WILL A CULTURE, THEN, THEN YOU WOULD ALMOST HAVE TO CHANGE THE NAME. 
          RIGHT. 
          OR YOU WOULD MAYBE NEED TO CHANGE THE NAME. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, UH, TO MAKE THAT THE FOCUS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO RIGHT. 
          IF WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THE NAME AS, AS IS WHAT WE SAY, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, THEN I ASSUME WE ALL, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE FOCUSES ON THE, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT BROUGHT US HERE, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE DISCRIMINATION, YOU KNOW, UH, OR ANYBODY, OR EVEN MARK ANY GROUPS BEING MARGINALIZED OR IMPACTED, RIGHT. 
          REGARDLESS OF WHAT I BELIEVE, SAR OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S TREATED WITH RESPECT AND BE TREATED FAIRLY. 
          AND WHAT HAVE YOU, UH, SO THAT'S SORT OF, I GUESS, WHAT WE NEED TO DECIDE UPON, RIGHT? IF, IF OUR FOCUS IS JUST GOING STRICTLY BEYOND WHICH I'M OKAY WITH THAT AS WELL, IF IT'S JUST TO BE FOCUSED ON JUST THE, THE, THE RACE AND ETHNICITY PIECE, THEN AGAIN, YES. 
          WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO NEED TO CHANGE THE NAME, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO HEAD. 
          SO THAT'S THE THING, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO, WHAT WE NEED TO DECIDE UPON MADAM CHAIR. 
          ONE THING FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER, SOMEBODY SHARING THEIR SCREEN. 
          I THINK THAT MIGHT BE YOU. 
          YEAH, THERE WE ARE. 
          I'M GOING TO TURN OFF MY CLASSES, EMAILING EVERYBODY, AND IT KEEPS POPPING UP. 
          SO LET ME, LET ME GET OUT OF THAT. 
          SO IS THAT OKAY? CAN YOU SEE THAT SHARING YOUR SCREEN? OKAY. 
          WHERE DO YOU WANT ME TO MOVE UP TO? I MEAN, THAT'S THE CREATION OF PURPOSE? I THINK IT DOES LIMIT IN HERE. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF KATIE, IF, IS IT, ARE WE LIMITED TO JUST NO MORE THAN NINE? IS THAT THE MAXIMUM NOW, NOW LOUD ON PERMISSION? I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT SET FOR THIS COMMISSION. 
          AND I DON'T THINK ANY OTHER COMMISSION HAS ANY MORE THAN THAT. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL SAID. 
          WHAT'D YOU SAY, RHONDA? I THINK THAT'S BEEN THE CHARTER. 
          NO SUBMISSION SHOULD CONSIST OF MORE THAN THREE OR MORE THAN NINE VOTING MEMBERS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU WOULD ALL MOST NEED A SEPARATE COMMISSION. 
          SO I HAD AN ITEM TO ADD TO THE AGENDA THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING IN THE ADVOCACY COMMITTEE THAT KIND OF LED DIRECTLY INTO THAT. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WANT TO TANGLE THAT, BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT DID COME UP, UM, IN RESPONSE TO THE NAACP EIGHT POINTS. 
          SO I KIND OF DID WANT TO ADD A QUICK AGENDA ITEM. 
          UM, BUT WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, UM, MIA, YOU'RE STILL SHARING YOUR SCREEN RIGHT HERE. 
          PERFECT. 
          I KNOW I'M THE SAME WAY I DO IT. 
          UM, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LAST THING TO SAY ON THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT CHARTER DOES SPEAK TO HUMAN RIGHTS AND CIVIL RIGHTS AND, YOU KNOW, HUMAN RIGHTS ARE NOT INCLUSIVE TO, UM, IF YOU EVEN LOOK RIGHT THERE, PROMOTE GLOBAL THINKING, ENCOURAGE CIVIL AND HUMAN RIGHTS AWARENESS AND REFLECT A RICH DIVERSITY FOUND IN THE CITY. 
          YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF JUST INCLUDING A MORE INCLUSIVE STATEMENT, YOU KNOW, SETS THE STANDARD FOR THE CHARTER, BUT IN DISCUSSION OF WHAT THAT EIGHT POINT NAACP THING WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE SHOULD BE SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION AND HOW THAT IS BEING MET. 
          AND IF THAT IS GOING TO BE BEST MET BY AN ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE OR COMMISSION DEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT? I AGREE. 
          WE HAVE TO DEFINE WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS PURELY ON SYSTEMATIC RACISM, 
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THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION PIECE, AND EVEN READING THROUGH THE MISSION STATEMENT EVEN IN HERE. 
          AND SO WHERE DO WE, THIS, THIS IS A BIG ONE HERE. 
          YES. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I THINK ERIC IS TALKING AND THEN, YEAH, I'M SORRY. 
          YEAH. 
          I GUESS MAYBE THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, AT A POINT WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION, YOU KNOW, OR MAYBE THIS COMES TO A VOTE IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO, UM, EITHER HAVE A COMMITTED ACTION THAT WHERE WE CHANGED THE NAME TO FOCUS EXCLUSIVELY ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT I GUESS, BROUGHT THIS GROUP TOGETHER, RIGHT. 
          OR DO WE WANT TO, HE LEAVE THE NAME AS IS, INCLUDE THE OTHER GROUPS OR ALL GROUPS, IF YOU WILL. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S THE, THIS, I THINK THE DECISION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE, UM, AT LEAST FROM MY VIEWPOINT, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DECIDE UPON. 
          RHONDA. 
          I THINK FOR ME, I WANT TO KNOW, DOES THE CITY WANT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF SYSTEMIC RACISM? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT US HERE AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, ARE THEY EVEN OKAY WITH THE NAME CHANGE? AND IF NOT, THEN THERE'S KIND OF OUR ANSWER. 
          WELL, IT SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY WAY TO ADD MORE THAN NINE PEOPLE TO DO. 
          THIS IS A LOT OF WORK. 
          AND EITHER ONE, THE ONLY ADD ONLY WAY TO ADD MORE THAN NINE PEOPLE TO HAVE MORE THAN NINE PEOPLE IS TO HAVE A SECOND COMMISSION THAT JUST ADDRESSES THAT SYSTEMIC RACISM AND A POINT THING. 
          SO THAT WOULD DEFINITELY, UM, I WOULD, THE ONLY WAY THAT WE COULD ADD, HAVE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE TO DO THIS WORK A SECOND COMMISSION. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNCIL WOULD BE, UM, OPEN TO HAVING SECOND. 
          I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE LIKE THIS ONE WAS BROUGHT UP IN INITIAL, BROUGHT UP TO A COUNCIL WORK SESSION TO SEE IF THAT WOULD EVEN BE SOMETHING THEY WOULD APPROVE, BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T APPROVE IT AND THEN THERE'S NO USE OF HAVING THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE THEN WE DON'T, WE CAN'T CREATE A SECOND ONE. 
          DOES THAT MEAN WE CAN CONTINUE TO ADD COMMITTEES, YOU KNOW, TO WORK ON THINGS AS WELL. 
          SO WE COULD ADD A COMMITTEE TO WORK ON A SPECIAL PROJECT AS A SPECIAL FOCUS. 
          WE HAVE THAT OPTION TO DO THAT, BUT I STILL DOESN'T GO BACK TO, I NEED THE ADDRESS AND I GUESS MIA'S INITIAL POINT ABOUT THE OVERALL PURPOSE SCOPE VISION OF, OF THE, UH, COMMISSION, RIGHT. 
          OR OF THIS GROUP. 
          SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO, I GUESS, START THERE IN TERMS OF WHAT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, AND THEN, THEN, RIGHT. 
          AND THEN OBVIOUSLY IF, IF, IF WE WANT THIS GROUP JUST FOCUSING ON, ON JUST THE, UM, AGAIN, WHAT BROUGHT US HERE, THE SYSTEMIC RACISM ISSUE, UM, THEN, UM, THEN MAYBE THAT'S A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER GROUPS CAN BE SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS THAT WE FEEL WE FEEL IS NECESSARY TERMS OF ANOTHER GROUP. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT WE LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD TO PROPOSE THAT ANOTHER COMMISSION BE INITIATED TO ADDRESS, UM, SINCE WE DON'T FEEL THAT A NINE MEMBER COMMISSION CAN TAKE ALL THAT BIG UNDERTAKING, WHAT WE LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT TO THE CITY, THE RECOMMENDATION. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          'CAUSE THAT, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO ADD MORE THAN NINE AT NIGHT, MORE THAN NINE PEOPLE INVOLVED FROM MY UNDERSTANDING FROM WHAT ARE OUR CHARTER STATING WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T HAVE A COMMISSION. 
          I MEAN, IT'S UP TO NINE, IT'S AT LEAST THREE UP TO NINE. 
          SO, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT A MAX, WHAT WE CAN DO FOR 
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THIS, UM, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THIS AND IF MORE PEOPLE IS NEEDED TO FOCUS THIS, CAUSE THERE'S OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT ASPECTS AND IT'S A LOT OF WORK. 
          UM, THEN, THEN THAT WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE TO PROPOSE TO HAVE A SECOND COMMISSION THAT WOULD FOCUS JUST ON REFORM AND CHANGE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THAT, AND THE OTHER ONE FOCUSING ON THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION AND CELEBRATING AND ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY OR SO LIKE WELCOMING BUSINESSES, EDUCATION, THINGS LIKE THAT ON THAT, THAT PART OF THAT COMMISSION. 
          I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          ESTEBAN. 
          I SAY SO IN TANDEM WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION, UH, TO PROPOSE A SECOND COMMISSION, DOES THAT MEAN WAS NEEDLESS TO SAY MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE RENAMING THIS COMMISSION AND, UH, REFINING THE SCOPE TO BE MORE SPECIFIC TO RACE AND ETHNIC RELATIONS? CORRECT. 
          SO THAT'S ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER, CORRECT? YEAH. 
          THAT WOULD BE THE NEW COMMISSION, THE NEW COMMISSION, THAT NAME TO GO WITH THE SYSTEMIC RACISM AND ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE, THIS COMMISSION THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ESTABLISHED AND EVERYTHING AND CAN BE THE, THE ALL-INCLUSIVE AND ADDRESSING AND CELEBRATING THOSE EVENTS AND CELEBRATING DIVERSITY AND STUFF. 
          THE OTHER SCHOOLS LIKE EDUCATION AND OTHER DRESSES, LIKE WELCOME NEW BUSINESSES, LIKE THE UNITY RALLY, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND THEN, UM, THE NEW COMMISSION, ITS MAIN GOAL AND NAME WOULD BE DEALING WITH SYSTEMIC RACISM THAT'S THAT EXISTS AND THAT NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON. 
          DOES THAT, AM I, IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING AS YOU CAN SEE THESE CASES? SO, BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, ALL OF YOU, UM, YOU WERE INTERESTED IN THIS COMMISSION FOR A CERTAIN PURPOSE AND FROM MOST OF YOUR INTERVIEWS, MOST OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT AND EVEN THE INTERVIEW QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED WERE GEARED AROUND RACE AND CULTURE. 
          AND SO I'M UNDER THE PREMISE BASED ON THAT, UM, THAT MAYBE YOUR UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IT WOULD BE FULL FOCUSED ON RACE AND CULTURE, BUT I DON'T KNOW. 
          SO I WILL HAVE TO PUT THAT OUT TO YOU ALL. 
          I DO NOT, I'M NOT TRYING TO REMOVE PEOPLE FROM WHAT THEY SIGNED UP FOR. 
          HEY, I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, DO A BAIT AND SWITCH. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. 
          SO MY, UM, INITIAL THOUGHT AND BASED ON THIS LEGISLATION WAS THAT THIS COMMISSION, I SPOKE JUST ON THE RACE AND CULTURE PIECE. 
          SO IF WE ADDED ANOTHER COMMISSION, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD THAT SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION BE? MAYBE IT WILL BE AN ALL-INCLUSIVE DIVERSITY. 
          THEN WE RENAME THIS ONE TO BE MORE FOCAL ON THE, UM, RACE ISSUE. 
          I THINK MY STRUGGLE HERE IS, IS WHEN WE USE WORDS IN THE PURPOSE STATEMENT THAT SAYS FULL EXERCISE OF CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL PERSONS, THAT MEANS ALL PERSONS HAVE TO BE INCLUDED. 
          AND I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING THIS MUCH MORE INTENSE THAN IT NEEDS TO BE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN INCLUSION STATEMENT AND THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMISSION CAN'T MAKE STATEMENTS LIKE FULL EXERCISE OF CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL PERSONS WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION, WITHOUT INCLUDING ALL PERSONS. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S ALL THE BROADER OR, YOU KNOW, THOSE OF US THAT ARE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MAKE THAT POINT IS, IS THIS ITSELF IS ALMOST DISCRIMINATORY IN ITS STATEMENT. 
          AND IF WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING TOWARDS FULL EXERCISE OF CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE VERY MARGINALIZED GROUPS THAT STILL DON'T HAVE BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS. 
          SO WE CANNOT FURTHER MARGINALIZE A BLACK TRANSGENDER MALE BECAUSE WE STOPPED HERE. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE REST OF THAT IS COMING IN. 
          I DON'T THINK NOW IN THE, THE, WHAT I WAS BRINGING UP ABOUT THE EIGHT POINT AND THAT PURPOSE OF THAT COMMISSION OR THAT COMMITTEE IS BECAUSE THE POINT IS WE DON'T HAVE SUBPOENA POWERS, RIGHT? AND THE NUMBER ONE POINT OF THAT WAS A COMMISSION THAT HAD SUBPOENA POWERS THAT LOOKED DIRECTLY INTO THOSE CONFLICTS, THOSE POLICE REPORTS, THOSE THINGS, 
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AND THAT'S WHERE THAT COMMISSION OR THAT GROUP WOULD BE FURTHER EXPOUNDED FROM US AS THE GROUP THAT DEALS DIRECTLY WITH THAT. 
          BUT I THINK EVEN THE WAY THAT THIS COMMISSION WAS BROUGHT TO ALL OF THE COMMUNITY, WAS IT WASN'T INCLUSIVE GROUP FOR ALL. 
          AND IT'S NOT THAT CHANGES THE FOCUS. 
          WE CAN'T STOP HERE AND SAY THAT WE'RE WORKING FOR ALL PEOPLE. 
          AND THAT'S, I THINK ALL WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IS CAN'T FURTHER DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THE REST OF THE GROUP BECAUSE OUR FOCUS IS HERE. 
          I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          AND I GET EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING, MY HESITANCY, AS I SAID EARLIER, IS THE BANDWIDTH ISSUE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT THAT WE'RE TACKLING RIGHT NOW, SEVEN EVIDENT FROM YOUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS. 
          AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT TONIGHT TOO, GETTING SOME FOCAL AREAS. 
          BUT, UM, WHEN WE, WHEN WE ADD THAT IT WILL, IT IS, IT IS PART OF BEING INCLUSIVE. 
          IT IS ANOTHER, IT, IT EXPANDS OUR AUDIENCE. 
          UM, ARE WE AS A NINE MEMBER COMMISSION PREPARED TO HANDLE? THAT IS THE QUESTION. 
          I THINK THAT WE ALL AGREED THAT AS NINE MEMBERS. 
          NO. 
          SO THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD FROM THAT? SO ARE WE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE KEEP THIS GROUP AS AN ALL INCLUSIVE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY, AND THEN PROPOSE OR RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE A SEPARATE COMMISSION FOCUSED ON RIGHTS, SYSTEMIC RACISM, THAT, UM, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE, I MEAN, I'M JUST TELLING FROM MY FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE THAT I SPOKE TO AND MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN I WAS APPROACHED TO ON THIS I DIDN'T INTERVIEW. 
          SO I WAS ONE OF THE FOUR WHEN I WAS APPROACHED BY THE MAYOR AND PEOPLE TO BE ON THIS. 
          UM, WE WERE GOING TO BE AN ALL INCLUSIVE AND ACTUAL TRUE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSIVE CULTURAL PERMISSION THAT WILL ADDRESS NOT JUST ADDRESS ISSUES, BUT ALSO CELEBRATE OUR CULTURE, CELEBRATE OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES, UM, MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES, OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND, AND WE WERE AN ADVISORY COMMISSION AND IT SAYS THAT IN OUR THING TOO, THAT WE WILL, I'M RESPONSIBLE RIGHT. 
          TO MAKE THE CITY COUNCIL TO MINIMIZE THE EFFECTS OF CIVIL RIGHTS AND APPRECIATION OF DIVERSITY WITHIN THE CITY TO MEET THESE GOALS, WE WILL BE VERY WRITING SERVICES AS EDUCATION PROGRAMS, PROMOTE GLOBAL THINKING. 
          AND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ALL DOING THAT ALREADY STATED IN THERE, WE HAVE TO BE ALL INCLUSIVE TO THE, ALL THE MARGINALIZED GROUPS THAT ARE, THAT FIT WHEN WE DO DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION WORK. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I, SO I THINK AT THIS POINT, IF, IF WE WANT A COMMISSION JUST TO FOCUS ON SYSTEMIC RACE AND RACE, THEN THERE HAS TO BE A SECOND, A SECOND COMMISSION. 
          I MEAN THIS, UM, FROM HOW I'M READING IT. 
          NOW, THAT IS WHAT, AND THIS, WHAT I'M READING OUT IS WHAT WAS APPROACHED TO ME WHEN I WAS ASKED TO JOIN TO BE PART OF THIS. 
          SO, I MEAN, THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          IT'S LIKE TARA SAYING, WE CAN'T SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS FOR ALL PEOPLE AND NOT, AND BE NOT INCLUSIVE OURSELVES. 
          SO I MEAN, IF THAT IS THAT IF WE WANT TO DO THAT, BUT LIKE I SAID, IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM THAT BEING OUR MAIN FOCUS RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING, NO GROUP CAN DO EVERYTHING, BUT WE CAN DO OUR MAIN FOCUS RIGHT NOW WAS ADDRESSING THAT. 
          AND THEN WE DOWN THE LINE, THIS IS LEGISLATION THAT WE'RE SETTING UP FOR YEARS TO COME FOR ALL FUTURE COMMISSIONS, NOT JUST WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW. 
          SO THAT'S WHY THIS, THIS PAPERWORK HAS TO SAY LEGISLATION HAS TO BE THAT INCLUSIVE, MY OPINION, THAT IT HAS TO BE ALL INCLUSIVE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE A TRULY ALL INCLUSIVE DIVERSITY GROUP. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO TABLE THIS DISCUSSION. 
          UM, BECAUSE ONE, I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE CITY AND FIND OUT, EVEN IF YOU KNOW, WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE, UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT RHONDA DOES STATE, OR IF THE CITY IS OPEN TO STATE ANOTHER COMMISSION AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          SO I'LL DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT. 
          AND IF YOU ALL HAVE, UM, 
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ANY ADDITIONAL INPUT THAT YOU WANT TO SEND TO ME, PLEASE DO. 
          UM, SO WE CAN MAKE A DECISION ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS MADAM CHAIR. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SHARE THIS ITEM, OUR JANUARY MEETING. 
          WE PROBABLY MOVE IT BEFORE WE VOTE ON THAT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          CAN WE GET IT? I DON'T THINK IT'S THE CITY. 
          I THINK WE HAVE COUNCIL WHO VOTES ON US ON THIS AND APPROVES THIS, THE, UM, YOLANDA. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD REACH OUT TO COUNCIL TO THE MAYOR TO SEE IF WE, UM, SOME FEEDBACK ON THIS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T, LIKE I SAID, IF THEY'RE NOT OPEN AND MAYBE WHAT THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THIS AS WELL, TOO, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT THIS SECOND ONE, THEN THERE'S NO POINT OF US HAVING A DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THEM APPROVING IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IF WE CAN SOME SORT OF FEEDBACK FROM THEM ON SOMETHING THAT WE HAD PROPOSED AND WHAT THEY'RE THINKING THAT WOULD BE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD BE, HOW WE WOULD APPROACH THAT WITHOUT HAVING ATTENDING THEIR MEETING NEXT WEEK OR BRINGING IT UP AT THEIR MEETING NEXT WEEK. 
          CAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY TIME THEY'RE MEETING IS NEXT WEEK. 
          AND THEN THEY'RE ALL FOR THE REST OF DECEMBER. 
          IF WE WANT TO HAVE CARE, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I WAS LIKE, IF WE WANT TO HAVE THAT FEEDBACK IN TIME FOR THE JANUARY MEETING, UM, MR. STEVENS HAD THAT INITIAL CONVERSATION, HE CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE YOU HAD INITIALLY WHEN POSTING THIS COMMISSION WAS CLEARLY ARTICULATED AND UNDERSTOOD BY HIM. 
          IT WAS CLEARLY ARTICULATED AND WAS, AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THE, THE LANGUAGE IN THE LEGISLATION IS KIND OF OXYMORON HERE. 
          IT SAYS, BUT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE CERTAIN GROUPS. 
          AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSATION AND HOW IT CAME ABOUT BECAUSE THOSE TWO WORDS, EXCUSE ME, WORDS, WHICH CLEARLY PERTAIN TO GEORGE POLI, JOHN CLAPPER, AFRICAN-AMERICAN MALES PERTAIN TO THAT. 
          UM, YEP. 
          YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. 
          YEP. 
          100%. 
          THANKS. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          SO I WILL, UM, TALK TO THE MAYOR, GET SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS DARK COMMISSION. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR DISCUSSION, OUR OH YES. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          MY AMENDMENT WAS ONLY TO GET INFORMATION FROM THE COUNCIL TO DO THAT. 
          WELL, IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED. 
          IS THAT KATIE? CAN WE TAKE A ROLE? YES, WE CAN. 
          UM, AND JUST SOMETIMES SOME OF THESE DON'T NEED MOTIONS. 
          IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO MOTIONS AND TAKE ROLL CALLS, IT'S A SIMPLE MOVING TO THE NEXT ITEM, THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH THE ROLL CALL. 
          OKAY. 
          MS. PURVIS, MR. STEVENS, MR. RAMIREZ TO RICHARDSON. 
          HI MS. STEPHENS. 
          I MISS MR. AKINS. 
          HI, MS. NEWBIE ALL ARE IN FAVOR. 
          THIS WILL BE TABLED UNTIL OUR JANUARY MEETING OUR NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS MLK EVENT. 
          DO YOU ALL WANT TO DISCUSS THAT DURING HERE? OR DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT DURING YOUR, UM, COMMITTEE REPORTS? WE CAN DISCUSS IT. 
          OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          NEEDS ASSESSMENT UPDATE. 
          [01:10:02]
OKAY. 
          I HAVE HEARD FROM ALL OF THE COMMITTEES IN TERMS OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE WANT TO OBTAIN FROM A NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          WELL, MOST OF THE COMMITTEES, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO START A GOOGLE DOC, UM, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE VISIBILITY TO THOSE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TARGETED, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDRESSED OR INFORMATION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE BROUGHT OUT A NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          SO I'M GONNA START A GOOGLE DOC ON THAT. 
          SO YOU CAN PUT THAT ON THERE. 
          AND EVERYONE HAS VISIBILITY TO IT. 
          I MET, UM, WITH OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, UM, EARLIER THIS WEEK, WHO I THINK, BRIAN, ARE YOU ON, IS HE ON 80? I'M HERE. 
          SORRY, CHRIS. 
          TEN-YEAR-OLD IN THE BACKGROUND I WAS ATTEMPTING TO DO WITH, OH, OKAY. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT HERE. 
          LET ME, LET ME PULL THIS UP HERE SO YOU CAN, UH, RIGHT. 
          HELLO. 
          HEY BEAR. 
          HIDE MY GRUESOME GRUESOME HOME OFFICE HERE. 
          HOW IS EVERYBODY GOOD? GOOD. 
          SO, UH, YOLANDA, I APOLOGIZE. 
          I, I MISSED THE INTRODUCTION. 
          I JUST CAUGHT THE TAIL END, UH, THERE OF MY NAME. 
          UH, I ASSUME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND I WAS SHARING WITH THEM THAT YOU AND I SPOKE EARLIER THIS WEEK. 
          YES. 
          TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          NOW, AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE LAST WEEK, UM, KATIE DID NOT LAST WEEK, LAST, LAST MISSION WORK MEETING KATIE, TAKE TWO CITY COUNCIL, UM, TO TALK ABOUT THAT, THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A BUDGET TO, FOR THIS NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          SO MR.  AND I MET AND DISCUSSED THAT, AND HE HAS SOME INPUT TONIGHT THAT HE'S GOING TO SHARE WITH US. 
          SURE. 
          SO, UM, TALKING WITH, UM, TALKING WITH KATIE AND, UM, REVIEWING, UH, YOU KNOW, COMMISSION MINUTES AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT WHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION IS TRYING TO GO WITH PUTTING THIS NEEDS ASSESSMENT INTO MOTION. 
          UM, I WANTED TO MEET, UM, WITH MS. STEVENS AND KATIE KIND OF BETTER UNDERSTAND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS WAS AS A TOPIC AND AS A PRIORITY FOR THE SESSION AND TALK ABOUT A WAY THAT WE COULD GET EVERYBODY KIND OF MOVING FORWARD ON THIS. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT DOING WAS MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET DONE, WHAT YOU NEED TO GET DONE. 
          SO KIND OF, UM, YOU KNOW, REVIEWING AND EVALUATING THE MINUTES AND HAVING THE DISCUSSION, UM, WITH MS. STEPHENS, WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE COULD BRING TOGETHER, UH, TO THE TABLE TO HELP THE COMMISSIONER, WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH. 
          UH, FIRST IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO PERFORM A NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND TO DO SO IN A MEANINGFUL WAY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO HAVE TO BRING IN THIRD PARTY, UH, FROM THE OUTSIDE TO ASSIST A TASK. 
          AND THAT WAS REALLY WHAT COUNCIL WAS, WAS DISCUSSING IN THEIR LAST MEETING WAS WHETHER OR NOT WHEN THE TIME CAME, UH, WOULD THE COUNCIL, UH, EFFECTIVELY AUTHORIZE AN EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS FOR THAT PURPOSE. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL DID, UH, THAT THEY PUT A VALUE ON THAT, RECOGNIZING THAT, UH, THAT, THAT THE COMMISSION IS STILL EARLY IN THE PROCESS, BUT, UH, KNOWING THAT THESE KINDS OF PROCESSES TAKE QUITE A WHILE, UM, I THOUGHT IT MIGHT, MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO SUGGEST SOME ALTERNATIVES THAT MIGHT ENABLE THE COMMISSION TO KIND OF GET, UH, UH, GET SOME PROGRESS GOING FORWARD. 
          UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD TYPICALLY DO IN THIS INSTANCE IS THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, OR WE WOULD SEE AN RFP OR REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL. 
          AND TYPICALLY IN THIS, UH, PURVIEW, WHAT COMMISSION WOULD DO WITH THIS SORT OF STAFF IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD HELP YOU CRAFT A DOCUMENT THAT LISTED VERY SPECIFIC THINGS. 
          UH, AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO DO, UM, SO MANY IN-PERSON SURVEYS AND YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE SO MANY PHONE CALLS AND YOU'RE GOING TO, UM, YOU'RE GOING TO RESPOND, UH, THAT ADDRESSES THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS ARE THE FOLLOWING CONCERNS THAT THE COMMISSION HAS, THAT THEY WANT, THAT THEY WANT ADDRESSED. 
          UH, AND ALL OF THAT EFFECTIVELY DEFINES IN A VERY SPECIFIC WAY, WHAT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO SEE DONE AND PROVIDES, AND, UH, THE, THE RESPONDENT TO RFP, UH, TO PROVIDE A PRICE RIGHT OFF THE BAT. 
          [01:15:01]
SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT EVERYONE IS BIDDING ON THE SAME SCOPE OF WORK. 
          THEY ARE BIDDING TO PROVIDE THE VERY SPECIFIC OUTCOME THAT YOU'VE ASKED, THEY ARE PROVIDING YOU WITH TO EVALUATE. 
          SO THE COMMISSION HAS TO DO A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING IN THAT CAPACITY UP FRONT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO AGAIN, WE WOULD FIND THE RIGHT STAFF PERSON TO ASSIST THE COMMISSION, IF THAT WAS THE WAY THAT THE COMMISSION WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          UH, MY SUGGESTION AND TALKING, UM, WITH, WITH MS. STEVENS WAS THAT, UH, PERHAPS MAYBE THE COMMISSION COULD LOOK AT, UH, A RF, UH, RFQ OR REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS. 
          SO IN THIS INSTANCE, UH, THE COMMISSION WOULD PROVIDE A GENERIC, UM, A VERY GENERIC, A SUMMARY OF WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANTED TO DO. 
          SO IN THIS INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST BE A PARAGRAPH OR TWO, THE MISSION IS LOOKING, PROVIDING NEEDS, ASSESSMENT, POLLING, THE OPINIONS, AND, AND, UH, PERSPECTIVES OF THE COMMUNITY WITH REGARD TO A NUMBER OF MULTICULTURAL AND DIVERSITY ISSUES IN ORDER TO FORM A RESPONSE PLAN TO EXECUTE THOSE, THOSE THINGS, RIGHT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY MUCH THE HEART OF THE RFQ. 
          AND THEN THE COMMISSION WOULD ASK FOR A VARIETY OF PIECES OF INFORMATION, UH, TO HELP YOU EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT THE RESPONDENTS ARE CAPABLE OF MEETING THAT VERY BROAD GOAL. 
          SO THAT ALLOWS YOU AS A COMMISSION TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON FINE TUNING, THE INFORMATION YOU WANT. 
          IT GIVES YOU AN ABILITY TO ME TO TALK WITH, UH, PARTIES THAT ARE INTERESTED IN DOING THIS WORK AND GETTING TO KNOW THOSE PEOPLE AND ALLOWING THEM TO TELL YOU WHAT THEIR PARTICULAR APPROACH IS TO ADDRESSING YOUR PARTICULAR CONCERNS. 
          AND THEN ONCE YOU FIND A VENDOR THAT YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH BASED ON THEIR HOLISTIC APPROACH, TO TRYING TO, TO, UH, ASSIMILATE IN AND RESPOND TO A NEEDS ASSESSMENT, THEN THE CITY WOULD NEGOTIATE A FINAL PRICE FOR THAT SERVICE ONCE THAT VENDOR HAD BEEN SELECTED. 
          SO THOSE ARE TYPICALLY THE TWO OPTIONS ARE THE TWO WAYS THAT, UH, WE WOULD, THAT YOU GO ABOUT IT. 
          UM, AND KIND OF THINKING ABOUT OUR CONVERSATION, UH, FROM EARLIER IN THE WEEK, UH, KIND OF THINKING BACK, UH, FROM COUNSEL'S COMMENTS AND COUNSEL'S CONVERSATION, THEY HAD ALSO SUGGESTED THAT PERHAPS, MAYBE THE COMMISSION LOOK TO ENGAGE, UH, THE, I CAN'T THINK OF HIS SPECIFIC TITLE, BUT THE MIAMI VALLEY, REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION RECENTLY HIRED, UM, A DIVERSITY AND OUTREACH COORDINATOR IS WHAT I'LL CALL HIM. 
          AND, AND I'M FORTUNATELY BUTCHERING HIS TITLE. 
          UH, THE MIAMI VALLEY, REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION SPECIFICALLY HIRED A PROFESSIONAL INDIVIDUAL TO HELP ADDRESS THE VERY NEEDS IN THE REGION THAT THIS COMMISSION, UM, IS LOOKING TO, TO WORK ON. 
          SO THAT MIGHT BE AN ADDITIONAL RESOURCE, UH, FOR THE COMMISSION TO REACH OUT, UM, IN ADVANCE TO HELP GET SOME GUIDANCE AND SUGGESTIONS AND THAT CAPACITY. 
          AND, UH, ALSO, UM, IN TALKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER EARLIER TODAY, UM, I ALSO LEARNED THAT THE CITY IS LOOKING TO ENGAGE, UM, A MARKETING AND RESEARCH FIRM, UH, IN OUR PURPOSE, UH, FOR MAKING THIS ENGAGEMENT IS TO HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT THE COMMUNITY METRICS ARE SUPPORT OR AN OPPOSITION TO THE CONTINUATION OF SEVERAL MEASURES, WHICH ARE GETTING SPIRE. 
          SO WE'RE GETTING READY TO GO OUT, UM, YEAH, SURVEY TO COMMUNITY FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT NEEDS, UH, AND, UH, IMPACT MARKETING, I BELIEVE IS THE FIRM THAT THE CITY MANAGERS TALKING TO AGING, UH, AND THEY HAVE INABILITY, UH, TO ASSIST YOU AS WELL, IF YOU WANT TO DIRECTLY SPEAK WITH THEM, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK DIRECTLY IN THEM. 
          UH, AND THAT'S AN OPTION THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THIS MORNING. 
          SO, UH, I JUST WANTED TO COME AND SHARE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION WITH THE COMMISSION TO KIND OF HELP YOU DISCUSSION, KIND OF GET AN IDEA ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO. 
          UH, AND THE REASON THAT, THAT I, IT TO BE HERE FOR, FOR PART OF THIS DISCUSSION AND FOR PART OF THIS DIALOGUE FROM THE COMMISSION STANDPOINT IS THAT, UH, AS THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER OVER ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES, NOT, NOT ONLY DO I OVERSEE THE HUMAN RESOURCES FUNCTION, UH, WHICH IS KATIE, UH, BUT IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIVISION, WHICH I ALSO OVERSEE, UH, WE ALSO HAVE A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SPECIALIST. 
          AND SO, UH, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE DIRECTION THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD WANT TO GO BASED ON SOME OF THE SELECTION CRITERIA OR, UH, THE, UH, INITIATIVES THAT THE COMMISSIONER MIGHT WANT TO ACCOMPLISH, UH, WE CAN BRING IN THE ENGAGEMENT SPECIALISTS TO HELP SPECIFICALLY WORK ON, UH, THIS NEEDS ASSESSMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WORK IS GETTING DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER. 
          THAT BENCHMARKS ARE BEING MET. 
          ALL YOU FOLKS HAVE HAVE DAY JOBS. 
          AND SO, UM, PROBABLY A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO BE CHECKING IN AND MAKING SURE, HEY, CONSULT AND DO THAT. 
          HEY, ARE WE ON TIME FOR THIS? WHERE'S THE WORK PRODUCT PAIR FOR THAT MEETING? SO WE CAN BRING IN, UH, THE, UH, 
          [01:20:01]
PAVEMENT SPECIALIST, SARAH WILLIAMS, UH, IS HER NAME FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT, UH, WE COULD DO TO HELP FACILITATE THAT. 
          SO KATIE COULD KEEP WORKING ON SOME OF THE OTHER INITIATIVES AND SOME OF THE OTHER PRIORITIES THAT THE COMMISSION HAS, UH, AND THEN SARAH, TO HELP AUGMENT, UH, COMMISSION'S GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ARE WITH RESPECT SPECIFICALLY TO THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO THE COMMISSION'S ATTENTION AND, AND SHARE THAT. 
          AND, UH, MS. STEVENS, I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING TIME FOR KATIE AND I EARLIER IN THE WEEK TO, TO KINDA, UH, PREVIEW THAT DISCUSSION WITH YOU THAT DID MEAN A LOT TO US. 
          SO, UH, I'LL TURN THE FLOOR BACK OVER TO THE COMMISSION AND I'LL BE HERE LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATION. 
          SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE THAT I CAN ANSWER, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT. 
          UH, I KNOW THAT THE WORK YOU ALL ARE DOING IS VERY TO YOU, AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, AND, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE, AND I THINK HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE STARTING TO MAKE AS MUCH PROGRESS AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN, UH, WITH REGARD TO, TO WHAT YOUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ARE. 
          SO THAT'S MY PURPOSE FOR BEING HERE, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AND SPEND SOME TIME ON THE FLOOR. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          LOVELY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, ASK ANY QUESTIONS. 
          SO WHAT ARE OUR, WHAT ARE OUR NEXT STEPS FOR YOU? UH, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT THE COMMISSION, JUST SOME GENERAL DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION ON, ON WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH RESPECT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, EVALUATING THOSE OPTIONS, THERE'S PLUSES AND MINUSES TO ALL OF THEM. 
          UH, AND IF I'M CALLING SOME DIALOGUE FROM EARLIER IN THE MEETING, IT SOUNDS LIKE ONE OF THE COMMITTEES I THINK HAD COME TO CONSENSUS, UH, AT, AT, FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEE, WHAT WAS A PRIORITY FOR THEM OR WHAT WERE THEIR PRIORITIES THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE INCLUDED, UM, IN THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT? SO IT MIGHT, UH, BE IN THE COMMISSION'S BEST INTEREST, UH, MAYBE TO REACH OUT TO THE, UM, UH, TO THE ENGAGEMENT SPECIALIST AT, AT, UM, UH, AT THE MIAMI VALLEY, REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION TO JUST HAVE HIM COME IN AND TALK TO THE COMMISSION SPECIFICALLY ON THOSE TOPICS THAT THE COMMITTEES WANT ADDRESSED IN THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND RECEIVE HIS INPUT. 
          UM, I HAVE NEVER DONE A COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT IN THIS CAPACITY, FAMILIAR WITH HOW THEY ARE DONE, BUT I HAVE NOT DONE ONE. 
          SO THE ONLY ADVICE THAT I COULD OFFER WOULD BE ACADEMIC IN THAT NATURE. 
          AND I HAVE TO SUSPECT THAT, THAT HE HAS PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE, UM, AND PERFORMING IN ASSEMBLING THOSE TYPES OF ASSESSMENTS BASED ON WHAT I KNOW OF, OF HIS CV. 
          UM, THAT BEING SAID, UH, I WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, WHETHER OR NOT YOU CHOOSE TO ENGAGE OR NOT ENGAGE, UM, WITH A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE MIAMI VALLEY, REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION, IT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION AND MY RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COMMISSION LOOK AT PERHAPS ASSEMBLING AN RFQ. 
          UH, SO, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UH, WHAT UNIQUE SKILLS AND ATTRIBUTES A FIRM CAN BRING TO THE TABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH RATHER THAN AN RFP. 
          AND, UM, I SUGGEST THAT FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT REASONS, BUT MOST NOTABLY, UH, I THINK, UM, FROM WHAT I'M TAKING FROM THE COMMITTEE'S DISCUSSION, UM, THIS IS, UM, MUCH LIKE ART, RIGHT? EVERYBODY HAS SOMETHING THAT IS BEAUTIFUL, UM, BUT EVERYONE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT ART IS ART, EVEN THOUGH ART MIGHT NOT ALL ART MIGHT NOT BEAUTIFUL TO THEM. 
          AND SO HAVING A PROFESSIONAL COME IN, TALK ABOUT MORE PROCESS, RIGHT? TALK ABOUT MORE, A PROCEDURE RATHER THAN CONTENT, RIGHT, OR RATHER THAN OUTPUT, UM, MIGHT BETTER HELP THE COMMISSION COMES TO AN OVERALL CONSENSUS ON WHAT WOULD DELIVER THE BEST OVERALL REPRESENTATIVE PRODUCT, UM, FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT COMES ABOUT, UH, IN A TIME AND A TIMEFRAME AND A TIMELINE IS REALLY UP TO, UH, REALLY UP TO THE COMMISSION, UM, AND HOW YOU WANT TO GO ABOUT APPROACHING THAT AND HOW YOU WANT TO WANT TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT'S, UH, WELL, I DON'T KNOW, UH, I, I SHOULDN'T SAY, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY NEED COUNCIL'S PERMISSION TO REQUEST OR AN RFQ. 
          ULTIMATELY AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU WOULD NEED COUNCIL'S PERMISSION TO NEGOTIATE, TO AUTHORIZE A NEGOTIATION AND ENTER INTO A FINAL AGREEMENT WITH WHATEVER VENDOR IS SELECTED. 
          SO, UH, I JUST WANT YOU TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT THAT WE CAN START GETTING YOU DOWN THE ROAD AT A QUICKER PACE THAN WHAT'S GOING NOW, BUT ULTIMATELY THERE WILL HAVE TO BE A TIME WHERE, WHERE THE COMMISSIONER STOP AND MEET WITH COUNCIL AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW YOU WANT TO FORMALLY BRING ABOUT AND ENGAGE THE, OKAY. 
          SO OUR COMMISSION WOULD WORK TO GET IT AT RFQ 
          [01:25:01]
ONCE WE HAVE ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER. 
          OKAY. 
          CORRECT. 
          MIA, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED IS THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME, CARLTON ELEY. 
          I JUST WANT TO RE REGIONAL EQUITY MANAGER, I THINK IS OKAY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE TO CONFIRM, BECAUSE THAT WAY I'LL LOOK, BECAUSE I CAN LOOK UP IS THAT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO BRING, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO, UM, FOR THE REST OF THE COMMISSION TO BRING, TO BRING HIM MR. LEE IN AND JUST, AND HE CAN GO OVER WHAT HE, WHAT HE CAN OFFER AND WHAT HE DOES WITH THE MIAMI VALLEY? UM, SINCE, SINCE THE CITY IS A MEMBER OF THAT. 
          SURE. 
          MAYBE HE CAN EVERYONE OPEN TO ADDING A MEETING, OR HE CAN BE GUEST SPEAKER IN JANUARY. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          GREAT. 
          AND THE COMMISSION ITSELF MIGHT BE WILLING AND ABLE TO PERFORM THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR THE COMMISSION, UM, A FEE OR RATE THAT WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN WHAT A PRIVATE COMPANY OR A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO. 
          SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER AVENUE TO EXPEDITE THIS PROCESS, TO THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMISSION AND THE COMMUNITY. 
          I THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION, LIKE TO BRING IT, BRING HIM AS A GUEST SPEAKER FOR JANUARY? NO. 
          OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD JUST ALL AGREE ON? WE'LL BRING HIM IN AND HAVE HIM TALK TO THE COMMISSION, RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
           VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          OUR NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS THE COMMITTEE REPORTS, UM, IN COMMITTEE MINUTES. 
          AND I DO WANT TO SAY I DO. 
          I KNOW I'M REALLY HAPPY. 
          EVERYBODY HAS PRETTY MUCH FARMED UP THEIR FOCAL AREAS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS. 
          AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF MOVING PARTS, AND AS I MENTIONED LAST MONTH IN OUR MEETING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE AS PROACTIVE AND FOCUSED AS WE CAN POSSIBLY BE. 
          SO AS WE START TO WORK ON OUR FOCAL AREAS, I WOULD, AS A COMMISSION, LIKE TO TARGET, UM, LIKE A NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OVERALL AS A COMMISSION THAT WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT AND DIVE IN HEAD FIRST, UM, LIKE THOSE RHONDA WAS MENTIONING THE SYSTEMIC RACISM WAS ONE PIECE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ONGOING ABOUT. 
          UM, AND THE NAACP HAS THEIR EIGHT, EIGHT. 
          UM, WHAT IS THE PROPER TIME FORWARD? YES, THEY HAVE, UM, SENT OUT TO ALL OF THE CITIES THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ADHERING TO THOSE EIGHT POINTS. 
          UM, AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT ONE OF OUR TARGET AREAS. 
          AND I THINK THAT EVERYONE, ALL OF THE MISSION OBJECTIVES, THE OBJECTIVES THAT YOU ALL HAVE DISCUSSED WITH ME ALIGN TO THAT THE EIGHT POINTS THAT NAACP HAS PUT FOR ALL OF OUR COMMITTEES ALIGNED TO THAT. 
          SO, UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, DOES HE MIGHT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY. 
          WE CAN WITH OUR COMMITTEE REPORTS, YOU STILL HAVE YOUR HAND UP OR, OH, NO, I CAN COME FROM BEFORE THAT WAS JUST CLARIFYING HIS NAMES. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO I THINK THAT, SO BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SO MANY THINGS, SO MANY IRONS IN THE FIRE, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE STARTED TO KIND OF REIGN OURSELVES IN A LITTLE BIT AND KIND OF LAY OUT, OKAY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TARGET FIRST AS A COMMITTEE. 
          AND SECOND. 
          AND SO AS A COMMISSION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THAT. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE TOO. 
          I KNOW THAT WE WERE, THERE'S A LOT THAT WE WERE THROWING AT CITY. 
          UM, AND BRIAN AND I HAD A CONVERSATION TOO ABOUT THIS THAT THERE'S SO MUCH TO DO. 
          THERE'S SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES, UM, FOR CHANGE, FOR GOOD CHANGE, BUT 
          [01:30:01]
WE HAVE TO TAKE IT A STEP AT A TIME. 
          UM, AND WE ARE ALL GUNG HO AND WE ARE ALL WORKERS AND WE CAN GET IT DONE. 
          IF WE KILL OUR TRIUMPH, I DON'T WANT US TO KILL OURSELVES STRIKE. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING TO KILL OURSELVES, TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING DONE. 
          SO YOU CHOOSE YOUR ONE PRIORITY ITEM THAT YOU WILL FOCUS ON. 
          UH, AND YOU HAVE ALL DONE THAT. 
          SO TONIGHT I'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT KIND OF ONE FOCAL AREA THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO ONTO, BEFORE WE STARTED ON THIS, I JUST NEED, I NOTICED, I JUST NOTICED IT. 
          SO I APOLOGIZE OF THE, UM, OF OUR, OUR NAME AND UNDER THE PURPOSE. 
          ARE WE AN ACTION COMMISSION OR AN ADVISORY COMMISSION? BECAUSE THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO THE DIFFERENT CONDITIONS, LIKE WITH THE NAACP, OUR NAME IS ACTUALLY THE CITIZENS IT'S IN COMMISSION, BUT IN THE PURPOSE, WE'RE AN ADVISORY. 
          YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          SO I THINK WE DO NEED TO CLARIFY THAT WITH, UM, BECAUSE I MEAN, OR CITIZENS ACTION, THEN WE CAN DO SOME OF THE THINGS THEN THAT EIGHT POINT NAACP EIGHT POINT CAUSE THAT'S AN ACTION COMMISSION. 
          WE, UM, IF, IF WE'RE NOT A CITIZENS ACT AN ACTION COMMISSION AND WE'RE JUST ON AN ADVISORY THING, THEN WE, THERE ARE SOME WE CAN'T DO RIGHT. 
          ADVISORIES. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING, I THINK WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT CONFLICT THERE IN OUR NAME. 
          AND THEN WHAT IS UNDER THE PURPOSE OF THIS LEGISLATURE IDENTITY ISSUE ISSUES? OH, I CAN MAKE SURE. 
          BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, UM, I WANT TO, IT HELPS US FOCUS IN ON WHAT WE CAN EXACTLY DO ON WHAT WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE, WHAT WE EXACTLY ARE. 
          YES, EXACTLY. 
          EXACTLY. 
          THANKS FOR POINTING THAT OUT. 
          MIA. 
          I JUST NOTICED THAT I DON'T KNOW WHY I READ THIS DOCUMENT 500 TIMES AND I JUST, AND IT JUST HIT ME. 
          SO, BUT I DEFINITELY WELL, AND THAT'S WHY IT TAKES NINE OF US. 
          IT DIDN'T HIT ME. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, LET'S SEE. 
          I'M JUST GOING TO GO IN ORDER OF MY SCREEN. 
          HOW ABOUT, UM, ERIC REFORM? OKAY. 
          YES. 
          UM, SO THE REFORM COMMITTEE WE MET, UH, WHAT WAS IT ON NOVEMBER 16TH? AND, UH, OUR PRIMARY FOCUS FOR THAT MEETING WAS TO LOOK AT THE, UM, IT WAS TO LOOK AT THE, UM, BASICALLY THE, THE DATA FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, THAT WE HAD REQUESTED FROM MR. SCHOMER. 
          AND HE BASICALLY PROVIDED ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, UM, HARVEST. 
          WE WERE LOOKING FOR THINGS SUCH AS DEMOGRAPHICS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BARGAINING, UH, DOCUMENT OR POLICY HIRING PROCESSES. 
          SO WE RECEIVED ALL THAT DATE, A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT, UH, THAT WAS PROVIDED. 
          SO WE SPENT A LITTLE TIME INITIALLY, JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WERE GOING TO TACKLE, REVIEWING ALL THE INFORMATION AND TRYING TO DIGEST IT. 
          AND SO, UH, THE OTHER THING THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING WAS, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE EIGHT POINT NAACP EIGHT POINT, UH, INITIATIVE. 
          AND SO ALSO CITI, YOU KNOW, HAD, HAD RESPONDED, UH, TO HOW THEY WERE COMPLYING TO THAT EIGHT POINT INITIATIVE. 
          AND SO, UH, SO WHAT I GUESS WE COLLECTIVELY DECIDED TO DO WAS TO, TO, TO OBVIOUSLY REVIEW THE DATA THAT WE HAVE, SEE HOW IT ALIGNS WITH, UM, THE EIGHT POINT NAACP EIGHT POINT, UH, INITIATIVE AND THEIR RESPONSES. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA REVIEW THAT AND WE'RE GONNA CIRCLE BACK NEXT MONTH WITH OUR FINDINGS FINDINGS, UH, IDENTIFY ANY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS OR ISSUES THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND THEN ONCE WE, UH, COLLECTIVELY, UH, GATHER THOSE, IF YOU WILL, THOSE FINDINGS AND DISCOVERIES, WE, THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET POSSIBLY IN THE, DURING OUR JANUARY MEETING, MAYBE BRING IN MR. SCHOMER TO MAYBE PRESENT SOME OF OUR QUESTIONS AND FINDINGS, UH, AND THEN SORT OF MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE. 
          BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE'RE AT IS JUST KIND OF IN THE PROCESS OF AGAIN, YET REVIEWING, UM, YOU KNOW, REVIEWING ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED, 
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UH, UH, AGAIN, IN, IN SCALIA, HOW THEY'RE ALIGNING WITH WHAT THE EIGHT POINT INITIATIVE, AND THEN AGAIN, SEEING WHERE, WHERE WE NEED TO GO FROM THERE IN TERMS OF, UH, MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES OR, OR, UH, THINGS WE WANT TO RECOMMEND OR, OR ELITE, OR MAYBE EVEN ASK AGAIN THE, UH, THE CITY, UH, WHAT ADDITIONAL THINGS ARE THEY DOING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT, THAT WE, THAT WE IDENTIFIED? SO THAT WAS, UH, PRETTY MUCH OUR FOCUS AGAIN, RIGHT. 
          WE, WE, YOU KNOW, AS WE MENTIONED, IT'S GOING TO BE MENTIONED IN THE PAST LAST MONTH, WE ARE SO FOCUSED ON THE, YOU KNOW, PERMANENTLY THE POLICE REFORM. 
          IT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO OBVIOUSLY PLACE, SORRY, ATTENTION. 
          UM, SO, AND THAT WAS, UH, AND I THINK THE OTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, UH, I THINK AT ESTEFAN, IT DID SOME RESEARCH ON, UM, THERE'S A GROUP CALLED AUGUST POLK CODE. 
          UH, THEY, UH, THEY DO, UH, UH, DO THEY DO SURVEYS, I GUESS THERE WAS A NATIONAL POLICE SERVICES SURVEY. 
          THEY, THEY, I GUESS THEY'RE, THEY'RE AN ORGANIZATION THAT DOES NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          SO HE HAD DONE A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THEM AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AS A POSSIBLE, UH, OPTION, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL, TO MAYBE SUPPORT, UH, THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT WE'RE, UH, WE'LL LOOK AT. 
          AND I THINK HE WAS GONNA ALSO MAYBE LOOK AT SOME OTHER, I GUESS, SOME PROVIDERS OUT THERE. 
          DID I SAY THAT CORRECTLY? STEFAN, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I CAPTURED, YOU SAID IT CORRECTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD STUFF. 
          AND SO, UH, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH, UH, OUR NEXT MEETING IS, UH, ON THE, UM, ACTUALLY, SO WE AGREED ALSO WE AGREED TO HAVE OUR MEETING, UM, UH, MONTHLY, UH, THE THIRD MONDAY OF EACH MONTH IS, IS WHEN WE, UH, SCHEDULED TO HAVE OUR MEETINGS. 
          SO OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE ON THE 21ST OF DECEMBER. 
          AND THAT'S IT, YOUR MEETING IS THAT CHRISTMAS. 
          THEY FORCED ME TO HAVE THE MEETING ON THAT DAY. 
          NO, I MEAN, IF WE NEED TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS, WE'LL, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S THE PLAN FOR RIGHT NOW. 
          WE'RE GOING TO MEET ON THAT MONDAY. 
          SO ANYONE ELSE FROM THE TEAM WANTED TO ELABORATE ON THIS? ANYTHING ERIC OR TARA. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE COMMITTEE, UH, SYSTEM MYSELF AS THE CHAIR, UH, TARA PURPOSE, ERIC RICHARDSON AND US. 
          UM, WE ARE THE, THE, THE, FOR THE THERE ON THE REFORM COMMITTEE, YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD? YOU KNOW, ANYTHING WE'RE GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO REFORM YOU ARE VERY MUCH, UM, MORE STRATEGICALLY FOCUSED IN VERY TIME INTENSE COMMITTEE, UM, GIVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOTS THAT COMES WITH REFORM. 
          LIKE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE HEART AND PRACTICES, WE TALK ABOUT POLICE REFORM. 
          SO IT SOUNDS LIKE RIGHT NOW YOU'RE FOCUSED ON POLICE REFORM, CORRECT? YEAH. 
          RIGHT, EXACTLY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED MAYBE A COUPLE MONTHS, YOU KNOW, ONLY THE, OUR FIRST MEETING. 
          YEAH. 
          WE, CAUSE WE TRIED TO IDENTIFY KIND OF WHAT FOCUS AREAS OF REFORM THAT, UM, THAT NEEDS ATTENTION. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO WE TO, HEY, YEAH. 
          LET'S NOT TRY AND TACKLE ALL OF THESE THINGS AT ONCE. 
          LET'S, YOU KNOW, TRY AND YOU KIND OF NARROW IN ON WHAT, WHAT WE NEED TO, OR WHAT WE THINK IS THE PRIORITY. 
          RIGHT. 
          OR, YOU KNOW, HE THINKS BACK, WE THINK BACK TO WHAT, AGAIN, WHAT FORMED, WHAT LED TO THE FORMATION OF THIS COMMISSION. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING IN TERMS OF WHAT HAPPENED OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          SO, UH, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WITH THE NAACP PEOPLE IN THE ENDPOINT COMMITTEE AT THE EIGHT POINT, UM, AND OTHER SPEAKING POINTS, RIGHT. 
          THEIR FOCUS OBVIOUSLY IS ON THE, ON THE, ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO, SO YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I FOCUS. 
          THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO FOCUS AT THIS POINT. 
          AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT, WE'LL LOOK AT OTHER THINGS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          SO WHEN YOU ALL HAVE, UM, CHIEF LEITNER COME IN, JUST GIVE US A HEADS UP SO WE CAN HAVE QUESTIONS PREPARED FOR HIM. 
          THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND WHO WANTS TO GO NEXT? THIS, I SEE JEAN SHE'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. 
          SO BUTTON READY? YES. 
          WELL, GOOD EVENING. 
          AGAIN, 
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EVERYBODY EDUCATION COMMITTEE, WE HAD OUR MONTHLY MEETING ON NOVEMBER 18 AND TODAY WE DID A BRIEF RECAP, SOME THINGS THAT WE WANT TO REPORT. 
          NUMBER ONE, UM, WE DID SUBMIT TO MATT AND CHAIR, OUR COMMITTEE BUDGET AND BUDGET ITEMS PERTAINING TO QUARTERLY FORUMS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE. 
          AND IT SEEMS LIKE DUE TO THE CONDITIONS OF COVID-19, WE'LL BE PERSONABLE GOING INTO 2021 AND ALSO EDUCATIONAL CHANNELS PERTAINING TO DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION. 
          SO THOSE ARE TWO MAIN ITEMS FOR OUR BUDGET. 
          NEXT, IN REGARDS TO OUR MISSION AND PURPOSE STATEMENT, MADAM CHAIR, THE COMMITTEE SUBMITTED THAT TO YOU FOR YOUR REVIEW. 
          AND, UM, NEXT MONTH WE SHARE THAT WITH THE COMMISSION. 
          NOW THAT TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S PART OF OUR PURPOSE. 
          WE MENTION THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING ONLINE RESOURCES THAT WE WANT TO SHARE TO THE COMMUNITY PAPER HEIGHTS. 
          AT LEAST TO MY QUESTION FOR MS. KINSLEY, ARE YOU CANCELING HAITI? YES. 
          I'M HEARING NICELY. 
          IS THERE A WAY THAT THIS COMMITTEE AND EVEN THIS COMMISSION, IT HAS A PAGE ON THE CITY, UM, WEBSITE. 
          WE HAVE ONLINE RESOURCES AVAILABLE FOR REVIEW ARTICLES, UM, PUBLICATIONS PERTAINING TO DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION POST FOR REVIEW OR THE CITY, THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          ONCE THEY WOULD BE, YOU WANT TO TAKE THINGS TO COUNCIL AND THEN HAVE THEM? NO, NO, NO. 
          THIS WILL BE AN ONLINE RESOURCE EDUCATION RESOURCE. 
          JUST EDUCATION TOOLS. 
          OKAY. 
          CORRECT. 
          CORRECT. 
          WOULD THAT BE AVAILABLE FOR US TO DO? UM, WE COULD LOOK INTO THAT. 
          YES. 
          I'M SURE. 
          I'M SURE THAT THAT'S POSSIBLE FOR US TO DO. 
          UM, WE DID PREVIOUSLY ABOUT HAVING DIVERSITY RESOURCES ON THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS WEBSITE. 
          JUST LIKE WE HAVE RESOURCES FOR EVERYTHING ELSE, THE PARKS OR THE COLLEGES OR WHATEVER. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT THE EDUCATION COMMISSION IS INVITING COMMUNITY RESOURCES FOR THAT. 
          SO WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          WHO DO WE SIT MID THAT TOO? UM, THAT THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION, CERTAINLY PASSED ALONG, PASS ALONG TO ME AND I CAN GET IT TO, UM, BRIAN, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. 
          IF SARAH WOULD BE THE ONE TO BE ABLE TO PUT ON. 
          UM, AND OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ROOM. 
          THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN PUT ON THERE. 
          SO YEAH, I MEAN, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T SEE A PROBLEM, SO I'M SURE IF YOU WANT TO SEND IT TO ME, WE'LL WORK WITH YOU AND GET SOME THINGS GOING TO WORK TOGETHER AND WE'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU. 
          AND OF COURSE SHARE, KNOW WHAT INFORMATION WE WANT TO PUBLISH ON THE COUNCIL WEBSITE. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND LASTLY, THE QUESTION ABOUT, CAN WE SEND YOU RESOURCES THAT WE MIGHT HAVE, UM, THAT WE MAY WANT TO INCLUDE THE COMMISSION? THAT'S DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY. 
          AND LASTLY, WE TALKED ABOUT THE COURSE, WE GET APPROVAL OF THE QUARTERLY. 
          WE WANT TO HAVE SPIRITUAL THE COURT PERTAINING TO RACIAL ACTIVITY AND MS. HONAKER, SHE HAS SOME POTENTIAL SPEAKERS THAT MAY BE ABLE TO FACILITATE THAT, UM, FORUM. 
          SO BY NEXT MONTH WE'LL HAVE SOME, UM, POTENTIAL SPEAKERS IN PLACE. 
          WE'LL PROPOSE THAT INFORMATION AT THE NEXT ISSUE MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MS. HONAKER AFTER AKINS, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT I MAY HAVE MISSED, BUT WE NEED TO, UM, ADD SPICE EDUCATION COMMITTEE. 
          OH, I THINK THAT'S WHERE OUR TWO MAIN, 
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OUR TWO MAIN FOCUS THAT'S MORE THAN TWO, BUT YEAH, YOU GOT THEM ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          THE BUDGET IS INCLUSIVE. 
          LET HIM MISS OUT. 
          YOU KNOW THAT, ESPECIALLY. 
          SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          OH YEAH. 
          WHENEVER YOU HAVE THOSE NUMBERS, THE SOONER, THE BETTER. 
          YEAH. 
          I BELIEVE I HAD SENT THAT TO YOU. 
          MADAM CHAIR. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU SENT ME, YOU SENT ME THE OVERALL. 
          UM, BUT IF LIKE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A FEE FOR THAT FIRST ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I'LL REACH OUT, I'LL REACH OUT TO THE SPEAKER AND GET, GET WHAT SHE WOULD CHARGE AND ALL OF THEM. 
          CAUSE THERE COULD BE. 
          AND AS I MENTIONED, DEPENDING UPON WHAT YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON, UM, ALSO BE A RESOURCE TO YOU AS WELL. 
          WE DID. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          SPEAKERS. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU MENTIONED BUDGET. 
          SO BRIAN, ARE YOU STILL ON? I AM. 
          I AM STILL HERE? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN YOU, UH, CAN YOU, CAN YOU STAY ON FOR A FEW MINUTES? SURE. 
          MORE THAN HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT BUDGET MORE THAN HAPPY TO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHTY. 
          LET'S GO WITH OUTREACH OUTREACH COMMITTEE. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          WE MET NOVEMBER 18TH AS WELL. 
          SAME AS THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE. 
          WE HAVE ONE MEMBER DIFFERENT, UM, RHONDA, BUT, UM, SHE'S ON THE, UM, OUTREACH COMMITTEE AND NOT ON THE, UM, CASE COMMITTEE, BUT UH, MIA AND, UM, GREENER BOTH, SIR. 
          THEY BOTH SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE WITH ME. 
          WE DID SUBMIT THE MISSION AND PURPOSE. 
          UM, ALONG WITH, UM, BUDGET ITEMS, A FEW THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, UH, TO EXPAND THIS, UM, THIS UPCOMING YEAR FOR 2021. 
          UM, HOPEFULLY THOSE THINGS COME TO FRUITION. 
          IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY, BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S MOSTLY ENDED UP INCIDENTAL KIND OF STUFF. 
          UM, THE FIRST THING THAT WE'LL DISCUSS AS THE MARTIN LUTHER KING EVENT, UM, OF COURSE THE PEN THEN AS OUR, UH, OUR COMMUNITY DISCUSSED, UM, IS, IS GOING TO, UM, HAMPER A LOT OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE DO OR FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR, FOR THE MOST PART. 
          BUT THE MARTIN LUTHER KING EVENTS IN DAYTON, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE PLACE AT ALL. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA, WELL, NOT, NOT CONFLICT WITH ANYTHING THAT WE DO, BUT THE SAME PANDEMIC AND HUBER HEIGHTS, UM, ME AND RHONDA HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS IN THE LIST. 
          SO, UH, TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE, UH, THIRD SHOT THAT I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE NAME OF THE CHURCH, RHONDA. 
          SO, UM, BLAMING ON MY HEAD AND NOT MY HEART, UH, MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN HELPING US DO SOME VIRTUAL THINGS, UM, FROM OUR DAY, BUT WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATIONS IN THE NEXT UPCOMING WEEKS ABOUT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND HOW WE CAN GET THE REST OF THIS, UH, COMMISSIONER INVOLVED IN THAT, IN THOSE MARTIN LUTHER KING EVENTS, I WAS THINKING, UM, WITH THE COMMITTEE OR HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMITTEE ABOUT HAVING A MARTIN LUTHER KING ESSAY CONTEST IN THE JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL, BUT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR THAT BECAUSE THE KIDS NOW ARE ALREADY IN SOME, AS YOU MIGHT KNOW, BECAUSE YOU GOTTA HAVE KIDS ALREADY AND THEY WILL BE OUT UNTIL AT LEAST THE 19TH OF JANUARY. 
          SO THAT WOULD NOT IN ITSELF FIT INTO MARTIN LUTHER KING, UM, THAT, THAT TIMEFRAME. 
          BUT WE WERE THINKING OF DOING A MARTIN LUTHER KING CONTESTS ESSAY CONTEST FOR, FOR BLACK HISTORY AND SAY KIND OF GOING INTO FEBRUARY. 
          SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS EVENING. 
          AND, UM, I AM NOT SURE ABOUT HOW WE GO ABOUT FUNDRAISING OR ASKING FOR DONATIONS AS PRIZES AND HUBER HEIGHTS. 
          SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IN THE BROADER CONTEXT OF WHAT THAT ESSAY CONTEST LOOKS LIKE. 
          NOT JUST FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH, BUT GOING INTO ALL OF THE SUBSEQUENT MONTHS IN THE YEAR WHERE WE COULD DO AN EVENT THAT INVOLVES SOMEBODY'S KIDS AND KIND OF INCREASE THEIR AWARENESS OF DIVERSITY AND CULTURE IN THE CITY, IF YOU WILL. 
          AND SO THAT'S ONE EVENT MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY AGAINST WORKING ON THAT, THE CHURCH AND, AND WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN, WHAT WE CAN PULL OFF WITH THE PANDEMIC IS SUCH AS IT IS THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL. 
          UM, THAT IS RIGHT NOW, WE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED IT FOR JUNE. 
          JUNE HELPED ME OUT. 
          I THOUGHT I WROTE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE ON HERE AND I DIDN'T, I GOT IT IN MY NOTES. 
          YEAH, JUNE 12TH, UM, IS THE DATE THAT WE CHOSE FOR THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL 
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OF NEW PROVIDES. 
          AND RHONDA WAS, I'M TRYING TO THINK RHONDA WAS NOT AT THE MEETING. 
          HOWEVER, SHE WAS ON THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION, UM, LAST YEAR. 
          AND THERE WAS SOME INTEREST IF YOU WOULD, IF I COULD USE THAT WORD FROM THE PARKS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION TO ASSIST US IN THIS ENDEAVOR, UM, COMMITTEE IS NOT ON ONE ACCORD WITH THAT. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW THEY CAN HELP. 
          WE DON'T WANT TO TURN AWAY ANY HELP FOR ANY, ANYTHING THAT WE DO, BUT WE, UM, WE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, UM, CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITY ACTION, WHATEVER IT IS, CITY, UH, YEAH, WHAT IS IT? THAT'LL BE A JOB CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMITTEE. 
          WE REALLY GOT TO WORK ON THAT. 
          IT'S TOO, IT'S TOO LONG, BUT, UM, W W WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN, WE'RE NOT TURNING DOWN THE HELP, BUT, UM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT TH THAT WE CONTROL THE ACTIVITIES FOR THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL AND HOW IT, HOW IT'S PLANNED AND IMPLEMENTED. 
          AND WHAT WAS THE FRED'S? YOU SAID YOU WERE NOT ON BOARD WITH, WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL ANSWER. 
          WE WERE NOT ON WHAT I SAID. 
          WE ARE NOT ON ONE ACCORD. 
          I MISSED IT. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          NO, WE HAD A, UH, A VERY SHORT MEETING ABOUT THEIR INVOLVEMENT, UM, AND NOT ALL OF OUR MEMBERS WERE PRESENT AT THAT MEETING. 
          SO I WANT TO GET US TOGETHER AND FIND OUT WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT ENTAILS AND WHY THAT, WHY THAT, UH, DISSONANCE IS THERE MIGHT BE SOME POLITICS INVOLVED, BUT WE ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN CONTROL OF THAT. 
          AND, UM, IF THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION FOLKS WANT TO WANT TO HELP US IN PLANNING AND IMPLEMENTING THAT, THEN BY ALL MEANS, LISTEN, THE MORE THE MERRIER NOW IS, IS OWNERSHIP STILL WITH THEM THOUGH? WELL, NOT HERE. 
          THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER SPED, THAT IS WHAT WE DO WITH THIS COMMISSION. 
          AND SO WE WOULD BE SPEARHEADING THAT EVENT. 
          UM, ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION IS MORE RELATED. 
          WE'LL BE DOING MORE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION. 
          SO THEIR FOCUS IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN OURS. 
          WE'VE DONE A LOT OF EVENTS. 
          AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY NOT KNOW, I WAS THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMISSION, THEY'RE TOTALLY FINE WITH IT. 
          THEY WILL, THEY WILL VOLUNTEER. 
          THEY HAVE GREAT PEOPLE ON THE COMMISSION, BUT THEY HAVE A FULL CALENDAR. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE SEEN OR BEEN TO ANY OF THEIR EVENTS. 
          THEY DO COMMUNITY MOVIE NIGHTS. 
          THEY DID THE MUSIC SERIES. 
          THEY DO A LOT. 
          UM, SO THEY WILL NOT HAVE AN ISSUE WITH US SPEARHEADING THAT AT ALL. 
          I, UM, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I THINK WE DISCUSSED THAT TONIGHT. 
          I WAS APPROACHED BY ONE OF THEIR MEMBERS WHO DOES NOT WANT THAT REMOVED FROM THEIR EVENT, FROM THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION. 
          THEY FEEL LIKE THAT WE WERE PUSHING THEM OUT. 
          THAT'S WHERE FRED WAS TALKING ABOUT. 
          WE NEEDED TO HAVE TO DISCUSS THIS. 
          UM, I, UM, I AGREE WITH FRED, I THINK THIS SHOULD BE UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE CULTURAL AND DIVERSITY COMMISSION. 
          CAUSE IT'S, IT'S UNDER THIS LEGISLATOR AS IT'S WRITTEN THAT WE DO THAT CELEBRATION OF CULTURE. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS, UM, WITH THE HELP OF, AND WITH HELP OF ANY OF THE COMMISSION OR ANY VOLUNTEERS IS WELCOME BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF WORK FOR ONE, THREE, NINE PEOPLE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          BUT, UM, IT, IT HAD BEEN BROUGHT UP THAT THEY FELT LIKE IT WAS, WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY BEHIND THIS EVENT. 
          SO I'M RHONDA I'M. 
          I WAS BROUGHT IN AFTER STARTING OF THIS. 
          SO, UM, SO I DON'T KNOW, I JUST HEAR ONE THING AND THE OTHER THING, SO I JUST NOT, MAYBE WE WOULD, UM, GET THIS FORMERLY WITH THE ON RECORD THAT THIS GOES UNDER US BECAUSE IT'S UNDER OUR PURVIEW ACCORDING TO THIS. 
          AND I AGREE WITH YOU, RHONDA PARKS AND BEAUTIFICATION HAD THIS EVENT AT THE TIME, BECAUSE THERE WAS NO CULTURE AND DIVERSITY COMMISSION AT THAT TIME. 
          AND NOW THERE IS, AND ONE OF OUR, OUR PURVIEW OR RESPONSIBILITIES ON OUR LEGISLATOR IS TO CELEBRATE CULTURE. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THIS EVENT DOES. 
          SO, AND I MEAN, ABSOLUTELY, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TOGETHER WITH THEM AND POSSIBLY EVEN PARKS AND REC, I MEAN, PERSONNEL THAT SAYS WE CAN'T, AND I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE POLITICAL. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, UM, 
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I THINK THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR EITHER OF THEM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD THE CITY MANAGERS SAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU ALL DO. 
          UM, THIS IS WHAT YOUR LEGISLATION IS ABOUT. 
          SO I THINK US SPEARHEADING WITH THEIR HELP IS, IS AN AWESOME THING. 
          AND AT THE END, THE COMMUNITY WINS WELL, WE WORK TOGETHER. 
          UM, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE AT THE HEAD OF THE PLANNING TABLE. 
          SO I WILL LET YOU ALL DISCUSS THAT IN YOUR COMMITTEE MEETING AND MAYBE, UM, WE'LL REACH OUT. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          HERE HAVE A AND B I'LL REACH OUT TO CHERYL. 
          YES. 
          I WAS GOING TO SAY RECOMMEND THAT CONVERSATION. 
          UM, I AGREE WITH YOU RHONDA, ON THAT HAVE TO BE POLITICAL AT ALL, BUT I THINK WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. 
          THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T HELP US ACCOMPLISH MORE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WAS THAT IT, MR. H THIS ATKINS, SO ADVOCACY FOR ADVOCACY. 
          UM, WE MET ON THE 19TH OF THIS LAST MONTH. 
          UM, HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE MYSELF? UM, RHONDA AND YOLANDA, UM, KIND OF ALSO HAD THE SAME THING WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO TACKLE SOME VERY LARGE, YOU KNOW, SYSTEMATIC THINGS AND, AND A LOT OF IT IS BASED ON THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          UM, SO WE DID DECIDE TO KIND OF PARE THAT DOWN AND RE RE SHIFT SOME FOCUS AREAS TO SOME MORE OBTAINABLE, UM, SHORT-TERM GOALS. 
          UM, WE WERE DISCUSSING, UM, WORKING ON SOME TYPE OF A SECURE COMMUNICATION FOR PEOPLE TO VOICE CONCERNS OR SOME WAY FOR IT TO BE AN ANONYMOUS ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO VOICE COMPLAINTS. 
          AND IN THAT I, THIS, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT BACK TO THE NAACP THING. 
          AND IN THAT THAT'S WHERE WE NOTICED THAT WHAT OUR COMMITTEE IS TASKED WITH IS NOT MEETING THE GOAL OF THE NUMBER ONE IN THE NAACP. 
          SO WE ARE GOING TO, UM, AS A COMMITTEE, BRING THAT TO THE CITY, UM, GOVERNMENT, OR AS WE FORMALIZE IT, EVEN AS THE BROADER COMMITTEE OR COMMISSION, UM, THE VERBIAGE IS THAT IT IS TO MODIFY OUR CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD, UM, EMPOWERED WITH SUBPOENA POWERS, TO INVESTIGATE COMPLAINTS BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CONCERNING MISCONDUCT BY THE POLICE OFFICERS. 
          THIS REVIEW BOARD SHOULD BE THE FIRST INDEPENDENT AGENCY ELECTED BY THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY, UM, THROUGH AN ELECTORAL PROCESS, SUCH AS, UH, PRECINCT CAPTAINS AND WE'LL CONDUCT PARALLEL INVESTIGATIONS, UM, TO BE CONSIDERED A LONG WITH THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATIONS. 
          UM, AND IN THIS CITY'S RESPONSE, WE WERE NAMED AS THAT ENTITY AND WE DO NOT MEET THAT CRITERIA. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO ADVOCATE, YOU KNOW, TO ENSURE, UM, JUST TO SEE WHAT THE IS GOING TO BE, UM, TO ENSURE THAT THIS NUMBER ONE IS, IS EFFECTIVELY PUT IN PLACE. 
          AND AS THE PLAN READS NOW, UM, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO, TO MEET THE SPECIFIC CRITERIA AS NEEDED. 
          UM, BUT IN SAYING THAT WE WERE, WE WERE LOOKING TO WORK ON, YOU KNOW, THE SECURITY COMMUNICATION SYSTEM OR, YOU KNOW, ON THE WEB PAGE, IF WE ARE GIVEN A TAG AWAY WAY FOR CITIZENS TO MAKE COMPLAINTS, UM, WE WERE ALSO GOING TO BE IN, UM, RESPONSE PLAN, HAVING FORBID THAT THERE WAS EVER ANOTHER INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED, LIKE WHAT HAPPENED AT FOOD BAZAAR. 
          UM, BUT WE ARE GOING TO COME UP WITH AN ACTION PLAN TO BE PUT IN PLACE IN CASE THERE IS ANY FUTURE INCIDENCES. 
          UH, THIS IS WHAT WE WILL DO WITHIN 24 HOURS. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE WILL DO WITHIN 72 HOURS, YOU KNOW, TO SUPPORT, UM, BUSINESSES OR MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE FACED WITH, UM, INCIDENTS ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          UM, FINALLY, WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN SOME TYPE OF, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST IN VERY DRAFT. 
          UH, AGAIN, TALKS RIGHT NOW, UM, SOME TYPE OF AN INCLUSIVE BUSINESS, UH, SEAL OR 
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SOMETHING THAT BUSINESSES CAN SIGN A PROCLAMATION THAT THEY, UM, ARE GOING TO PROVIDE SERVICES LIKE THAT BIASED, UM, FREE BIASED SERVICE POLICY AND KIND OF PROCLAMATION. 
          AND WE SUPPLY A DECAL OR SOMETHING TO GO IN YOUR WINDOW. 
          UM, THAT SHOWS THAT YOU ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THESE GOALS TO FURTHER, YOU KNOW, ENSURE THAT, UM, ALL PEOPLE ARE PROVIDED SERVICES, YOU KNOW, IN A FAIR AND INCLUSIVE MANNER. 
          SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THREE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO, UM, TACKLE VERSUS, UH, TRYING TO TACKLE SOME HUGE SYSTEMATIC, UM, ISSUES LIKE GLOBAL HEALTH CARE ISSUES. 
          SO WE GOT TO DIGEST A LITTLE EASIER SHORT-TERM GOALS FOR NOW IS YOUR PRIORITY ITEM THAT YOU'LL WORK ON. 
          I THINK THE, THE NUMBER OF ONE IS GOING TO BE THAT I'M NUMBER ONE ON THE NAACP INITIATIVE. 
          UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS AN IMPORTANT TASK. 
          UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ANSWERED SIX MONTHS AGO. 
          UM, AND IF, AND IF WE ARE THE ANSWER, WE JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE, MORE INFORMATION ON HOW THAT GOAL IS GOING TO BE MET AND COMPLIANCE WITH THAT STANDARD SET. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND SO I WOULD ASK WHAT WOULD BE YOUR SECOND THING THEN? UM, THE ACTION PLAN, THE RESPONSE, ACTUALLY, WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THAT THROUGH GOOGLE DOC AND THEN ONCE THAT'S AVAILABLE, UNLESS RHONDA HAS A DIFFERENT FEELING OR YOURSELF. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, DID WE GET EVERYBODY? WE GOT ALL OF THE COMMITTEES, SO I ASKED BRIAN TO STAY ON BECAUSE WE HAD THE ISSUE OF BUDGET, UM, COME UP. 
          AND I DID, WHEN WE MET EARLIER THIS WEEK, I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT OUR BUDGET AND, UM, SPOKE WITH HIM ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ON THE HORIZON. 
          AND WE KNOW THAT THINGS LIKE BRINGING PEOPLE INTO DO TRAINEES ARE DOING NEEDS ASSESSMENTS. 
          THOSE ARE GOING TO, ESPECIALLY THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS GOING TO BE A REALLY, PROBABLY LARGE DOLLAR AMOUNT. 
          UM, SO WE DISCUSSED BUDGET AND I TOLD HIM THAT WE NEED AT LEAST A MILLION DOLLARS TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 
          IT'D BE, ARE YOU STILL THERE? I'M STILL HERE. 
          AND THE GOOD NEWS IS YOLANDA AND I ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT YOU'RE GETTING WAY MORE THAN ZERO. 
          WE ARE, WE ARE IN AGREEMENT THERE. 
          UM, NO. 
          SO PUTTING THE BUDGET TOGETHER FOR THIS YEAR, UM, FOR 2021, WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANY INPUT, UM, FROM THE COMMISSION. 
          AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF AT THE TIME WE WERE PUTTING THE BUDGET TOGETHER. 
          I THINK YOU GUYS WERE JUST COMING TOGETHER. 
          SO A BUDGET WAS NOT, I THINK, ANYTHING ON YOUR MINDS THAT, UM, IN THE SCOPE OF OUR BUDGET, UM, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT WORKING ON WORK IN OUR MIND. 
          SO, UM, AT THIS POINT, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE SET OUT A BUDGET FOR YOU THAT IS EQUAL TO THREE OTHER COMMISSIONS, UH, TO THREE COMMISSIONS OF THE FOUR, UM, ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION BEING THE FOURTH. 
          THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. 
          UM, SO YOUR BUDGET MATCHES THEIR BUDGET, UH, WITH A GRAND TOTAL ALLOCATION OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          UH, THAT'S WHAT WE PUT IN, UH, FOR THE 20, 21 BUDGET NOW, UM, IN LIGHT OF TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION AND I GUESS SOME DIFFERENCES OF OPINION ON WHERE, UH, MLK ACTIVITIES, UH, SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT RESIDE IN THE FUTURE, UH, MLK, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMISSION TAKES OVER. 
          UH, WE WILL MAKE AN APPROPRIATE LINE ITEM TRANSFER WITHIN THE BUDGET TO BRING OVER THE MONIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY WITHIN THE AME BUDGET TO FUND AN OKAY EVENT. 
          AND WE WILL TRANSFER THAT SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT IN TO, UH, THE DIVERSITY COMMISSION, UH, AS BUDGET. 
          SO YOU CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THAT MONEY TO PLAN AND FUND YOUR EVENT WHEN THE TIME COMES FOR THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          UH, I WOULD SAY BASED ON MY KNOWLEDGE OF SOME OF THE WORK WE'VE WE'VE DONE PREVIOUSLY, UH, AND SOME OF THE WORK THAT THE CITY'S GETTING READY TO TAKE, I WOULD SAY WE'RE LOOKING AT A NUMBER SOMEWHERE NORTH OF 50,000 AT SOUTH OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND WITH RESPECT TO, UH, THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          AND THAT MONEY WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY LEGISLATED INTO YOUR BUDGET AT THE TIME COUNCIL APPROVES YOUR PROJECT. 
          SO THERE IS NO MONEY CURRENTLY INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT. 
          UH, 
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ASSESSMENT PROJECT COUNCIL IS AWARE THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO ALLOCATE MONEY FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO I DON'T WANT ANYONE ON THE COMMISSION TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, WHETHER OR NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE MONEY AVAILABLE FOR THAT PROJECT. 
          THERE WILL BE MONEY AVAILABLE FOR THAT COUNCIL. 
          WE'LL MOVE THAT INTO YOUR BUDGET WHEN THAT NUMBER IS KNOWN, UH, WITH REGARD TO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING, UM, I THINK THERE WAS SOME TRAINING THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT WITH RESPECT TO A QUARTERLY FORUMS AND EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          SO DEPENDING UPON HOW THE COMMISSION PUTS THAT TOGETHER AND, AND WHAT THAT, UM, MATERIAL LOOKS LIKE, WE HAVE MONEY THAT IS AVAILABLE. 
          THAT'S KIND OF SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET RELATIVE TO TRAINING AND EDUCATION FOR OUR STAFF TRAINING AND EDUCATION AND OUTREACH FOR, UH, THE, THE COMMUNITY IN A VARIETY OF WAYS. 
          SO FOR INSTANCE, UM, UH, I'LL, I'LL PUSH SOME IDEAS. 
          I HEARD, UH, UM, TOGETHER. 
          SO LET'S SAY THERE'S GOING TO BE A FORUM, UH, TO EDUCATE, UH, LOCAL BUSINESSES ON CULTURAL ISSUES OF CULTURAL SENSITIVITY. 
          OKAY. 
          HE COULD PUT TOGETHER SOME FUNDS, RIGHT? SO WE COULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR, YOUR BUDGET. 
          AND THEN WE BLEND THAT WITH THE MAJORITY OF MONEY THAT MIGHT COME FROM, UM, OUR BUDGET AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT. 
          COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OR, OR, OR BUSINESS, AND, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF BUSINESS, UH, OUTREACH. 
          AND WE COULD USE THOSE TO HELP FUND ONE OR TWO OF THOSE EVENTS, UH, OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS. 
          SO WE CAN FIND A WAY TO WORK WITH YOU IF YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US, TO MAKE SOME MONEY AVAILABLE TO YOU BEYOND WHAT YOU HAVE CURRENTLY, UH, TO, TO GET YOUR FEET IN THE WATER, TO GET THIS COMMISSION, UM, YOU KNOW, OUT IN THE COMMUNITY TO SOME DEGREE BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GET FROM THOSE THAT PARTICIPATE FROM COUNCIL, UH, FROM MY BOSS, UH, ONCE WE GET SOME OF THAT INFORMATION BACK THAT WILL HELP US BETTER FORMULATE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT AN ONGOING BUDGET FOR YOU ALL MIGHT LIKE BEGINNING IN 2020. 
          SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S OUR PERSPECTIVE ON, ON, UH, THIS COMMISSION'S BUDGET, AT LEAST FOR 2021. 
          IS THAT ALREADY FINALIZED 21 OPPORTUNITY FOR, IS IT INCREASED? UH, WELL, THERE'S ALWAYS AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          SO COUNCIL WILL, THE COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO PASS. 
          WHAT'S CALLED A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION. 
          SO THIS IS WHERE COUNCIL MOVE MONEY FROM ONE DEPARTMENT OR ONE DIVISION, AND THEY WILL MOVE IT TO ANOTHER, THEY MIGHT MOVE IT FROM ONE FUNCTION TO ANOTHER. 
          SO LET'S SAY FOR INSTANCE, UM, WE, WE PLANNED TO HIRE, UH, WE, WE TEND TO HIRE, YOU KNOW, 10 POLICE OFFICERS AND WE ONLY WIND UP HIRING FOUR WELL THERE'S MONEY LEFTOVER AND PERSONNEL. 
          SO COUNCIL CAN ADOPT A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION AND MOVE THE MONEY THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE SPENT ON POLICE, AND THEY COULD MOVE IT TO OPERATIONAL EXPENSE SO THAT WE COULD FUND A PROGRAM. 
          UH, WE DO HAVE MONEY AVAILABLE IN A SAVINGS ACCOUNT, RIGHT? WE DO HOLD A SAVINGS ACCOUNT, UM, TO COVER A VARIETY OF EXPENSES THAT COME UP THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE NOT BE KNOWN. 
          UM, SO WE WILL OUT OF THE SAVINGS ACCOUNT, UM, WE ANTICIPATED A FULLY OPERATIONAL 20, 21, AND WE PROGRAMMED A BUDGET. 
          SO WE HAVE MONEY. 
          THAT'S BEEN SET UP FOR STAFF TO, TO TRAIN, AND WE'VE HAD MONEY TO SET UP FOR STAFF TO TRAVEL FOR A VARIETY OF PROFESSIONAL FUNCTIONS. 
          IT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO MAKE THOSE MONIES AVAILABLE. 
          UM, IN THE SHORT TERM, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS ASK COUNCIL TO PASS A LEGISLATION, DO THESE REGULARLY, THAT MOVES THAT MONEY TO ANOTHER PERSON. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK, UH, BUT, UH, AS I POINTED OUT, LUCKILY IT'S NOT ZERO. 
          SO, UM, BUT YEAH, SO THERE, THERE IS SOME MONEY THAT IS THERE AND, UH, AND YOU, YOU VERY WELL MAY BE RIGHT. 
          UM, WITH, UH, ALL THE NUMBERS THAT WE'VE BEEN CRUNCHING IN LIGHT OF THE MAYOR'S ANNOUNCEMENT EARLIER TONIGHT. 
          UM, YOU VERY WELL MAY BE RIGHT. 
          I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          UM, BRIAN, I THINK YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY ANSWERED THIS QUESTION, BUT I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION. 
          SO YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS SCATTERED AROUND. 
          SO WITH THAT, DO YOU MEAN THAT THERE ARE SOME COMMISSION BOARDS THAT MAY HAVE EXCESS FUNDS THAT THEY DO NOT PLAN TO SPEND OR UTILIZE IN 2021 THAT THIS COMMISSION CAN USE? 
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SO, UM, TO CLARIFY THAT THAT MONEY IS TYPICALLY MONEY, THAT STAFF HAS ALLOCATED TO IT FOR A BULK PURPOSE. 
          SO LET'S SAY FOR INSTANCE, SO WE TRAIN STAFF IN ALL DIVISIONS IN ALL DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          AND SO WE MIGHT JUST BULK BUDGET, $10,000 FOR TRAINING. 
          SO WE COULD, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING UPON WHAT THE COMMISSION IS INTERESTED IN PROVIDING IN ONE OF THESE QUARTERLY, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY STAFF DO THAT, OR IF THAT ACCOMPLISHES A GOAL, EDUCATING STAFF ABOUT CULTURAL SENSITIVITIES, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, W WHATEVER THE SUBJECT MATTER MIGHT BE, WE COULD USE THOSE FUNDS TO HELP THE COMMISSION PAY FOR THAT SPEAKER OR TO COVER THAT TOPIC. 
          SO THERE ISN'T ANY JUST POT OF MONEY OUT THERE FOR THE VARIOUS COMMISSIONS TO HAVE ACCESS TO, BUT WE DO BUDGET FUNDS IN BULK FOR A VARIETY OF PURPOSES AT STAFF LEVEL. 
          SO TRAVEL AND TRAINING, PROFESSIONAL EDUCATION AND DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO THOSE KINDS OF, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY OUTREACH, MARKETING, UH, THOSE ARE FUNDS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING TOGETHER TO HELP, YOU KNOW, BACKFILL BACKSTOP. 
          SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO DO IN THE LIGHT OF THE FACT DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THIS INFORMATION WHEN WE PROGRAM THE 20, 21 BUDGET, OKAY. 
          PROCESS THAT NEEDS TO BE FOLLOWED AND WORK THOSE PROBLEMS. SO IN THIS INSTANCE, BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER, I MEAN, WE'VE NEVER WORKED IN THIS CAPACITY BEFORE. 
          UM, WHAT WOULD WORK BEST IS IF WE HAD SEMBLANCE, IF WE HAD SOME IDEA, UM, OF MAYBE WHAT THE TOPICS WERE, MAYBE WHAT THE AGENDA OR THE DESIRED OUTCOMES OF THESE PARTICULAR SESSIONS WERE. 
          AND IF WE COULD GET THAT INFORMATION AHEAD OF TIME, AND WE COULD LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, OKAY, WELL, THIS ONE, YES, THIS ONE, PROBABLY NOT SO MUCH THIS OTHER ONE, AND THAT COULD WE TWEAK IT. 
          UM, AND, AND SOME OF THEM MIGHT JUST BE NO, BUT IF WE HAD THE INFORMATION IN ADVANCE, IT WOULD HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND, UH, IT WOULD HELP US WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE BUDGET AND DETERMINE WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE SOME CROSSOVER THAT COULD HELP FUND ADMISSIONS ACTIVITIES. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS MY LAST QUESTION. 
          WHAT IS THE TIMEFRAME LIKE HOW SOON DOES THE FUNDING NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED? UM, SO THAT WOULD DEPEND ON, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY THE QUICKEST THAT WE COULD MOVE IN. 
          ANY GIVEN IN ANY GIVEN SCENARIO IS FIVE BUSINESS DAYS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF YOU HAD A REALLY GOOD IDEA AND THAT SPEAKER JUST SUDDENLY CAME TO YOU, AND THEN YOU WANTED TO TRY SOMETHING TOGETHER, FIVE BUSINESS DAYS IS WHAT WE WOULD NEED FOR SURE. 
          UM, I'LL TELL YOU THAT MOST DIVISIONS AND DEPARTMENTS WOULD HAVE TO THESE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          WE'RE PLANNING WE'RE FROM 90 TO 180 DAYS OUT, RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO COORDINATE STAFF, WE'VE GOT TO COORDINATE SPEAKERS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, THE SOONER, YOU KNOW, THE BETTER, UM, JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF BEING ABLE TO EARMARK THE MONEY TODAY TO BE SPENT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, BUT FOR THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL PROCESS OF RECEIVING INFORMATION, TO BE ABLE TO PAY AND PROCESS AND MOVE MONEY AROUND, IT'S ABOUT FIVE DAYS, FIVE MINUTES, THEY WON'T BE SHORT TIME. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP. 
          UM, AND WELL, I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION. 
          UM, BRIAN, ONE QUESTION I HAD WHEN I WAS WITH THE BOARD, WE DID DO SOME TARGETED SPONSORSHIPS FOR PROJECTS THAT HAD, UM, SO IS THERE A PACKAGE OR THAT I KNOW THERE WAS ONE CREATED FOR, FOR ME WITH A AND B, IS THERE A LETTER THAT WE CAN GET TO US SO THAT WE CAN, UM, REQUEST SOME SPONSORSHIPS, UM, THAT CAN HELP WITH SOME SPECIAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, WOULD THAT GO INTO A FUND SPECIFICALLY FOR CULTURAL DIVERSITY? WOULD THAT GO INTO WORLD FUNDS? YEAH. 
          UM, SO I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT PRACTICE, BUT I AM AWARE THAT THAT HAS OCCURRED IN THE PAST. 
          SO, UM, I'D HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH FINANCE DIRECTORS IN, UH, I 
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KNOW MY COUNTERPART, MR. , UH, HE AND HIS FOLKS HELP SUPPORT A AND B. 
          SO HE'S MORE FAMILIAR WITH THAT THAN I AM. 
          SO BY HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THEM, I'M SURE WE COULD FACILITATE SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR FOR, UH, FOR THE CULTURAL DIVERSITY COMMISSION. 
          SO I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT. 
          UM, AND WE BRING THAT TO YOU, UH, UM, FOR THE NEAR FUTURE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          SURE. 
          SO THIS IS THE DEAL IN PUBLIC MONEY, AND I DEAL WITH PUBLIC BUDGETS TOO. 
          SO CAN WE PIGGYBACK ON RONDA'S BECAUSE I KNOW IF WE SEEK OUT FUNDS FROM SPONSORS AND DONORS AND DONATIONS, AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO SPECIFICALLY HAS TO BE INTO THOSE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DONATING FOR. 
          UM, IS THERE, CAN WE MAKE SURE WE GET THAT ACCOUNT SET UP FOR, I MEAN, BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN I GIVE THEM WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DONATE, CAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE LOOKING AT WITH THE ESSAY WAS THE PRIZES AND STUFF. 
          WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO DONATE OR GIFTING KIND I'LL NEED SOMETHING TO GIVE TO THEM BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING, I'M GOING TO REACH OUT TO SOME CORPORATE DONATE OWNERS AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT THIS PAPERWORK AND SPECIFIC ACCOUNT AND SPECIFIC THING. 
          SO CAN WE GET SOMETHING THAT'S SET UP SOONER THAN LATER BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THIS IN FEBRUARY. 
          SO, SO TYPICALLY WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD, WE WOULD CREATE NECESSARY INTERNAL STRUCTURE SO THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE MONEY THAT IS COMING IN TO SUPPORT DOES IT'S GOING TO BE MONEY THAT IS SPENT FOR THIS BOARD. 
          SO YES, WE CAN PROVIDE WHOMEVER. 
          THE DONOR MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE INVITATION TO DEMONSTRATE THAT NO, THE MONEY THEY'RE GIVING FOR YOU, ISN'T GOING TO GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND BE SPENT THE DOG PARK OR WHATEVER, OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          THAT'S NOT HOW THE MONEY WOULD BE USED. 
          SO WE PROVIDE YOU THAT DOCUMENTATION IN RELATIVELY QUICK RESPONSE ON YOUR BEHALF. 
          YEAH. 
          CAUSE I KNOW WITH MY BIGGER DONORS, I ALWAYS HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY CORPORATES, I HAVE CORPORATIONS. 
          I HAVE DONE THAT STUFF BEFORE THEY CHECK. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BRIAN. 
          UM, AND I APPRECIATE YOU. 
          ARE YOU FLEXIBLE GIVEN THAT THIS IS A NEW COMMISSION? WE ALL KNOW THAT AT A THOUSAND DOLLARS IS GIVEN THE, THE AMOUNT OF WORK IN THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING. 
          YOU KNOW, ONE IS NOT GOING TO GET US VERY FAR. 
          SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU, UM, GIVING US OTHER, UH, WAYS OF HOW TO GET MONEY TO FINANCE SOME OF THESE THINGS, BECAUSE SO WE KNOW THAT THE THOUSAND DOLLARS HAS GIVEN US, SO THE OTHER COMMISSIONS, THEIR TASKS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN OURS. 
          AND WE HAVE SOME PRETTY LARGE TASKS ON OUR PLATE HERE. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP WITH THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WHAT'S OUR NEXT HIRING UPDATES. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATES, KATIE? ARE THERE ANY UPDATES ON THE HIRING? I KNOW YOU'RE, YOU'VE BEEN SPECIFIC ABOUT THE FIRE CHIEF AND FIREFIGHTERS, AS YOU'RE AWARE, I'M NOT INVOLVED IN THE FIRE CHIEF PROCESS, SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT'S AT AND THE FIREFIGHTERS WE ARE TESTING SATURDAY. 
          SO THAT'S EXCITING. 
          WE CAN GET THAT MOVING. 
          UM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER, YOU WANT MORE OF AN UPDATE THAN THAT? YEAH. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE ABLE TO TARGET ANY, UM, MINORITY APPLICANTS AT ALL. 
          WELL, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE DON'T, UM, WE DON'T COLLECT THAT DATA AS THEY COME IN. 
          SO LIKE THE FIRE APPLICANTS, WE HAD 32 APPLICANTS, WHICH WE FOUND OUT IT WAS ACTUALLY PRETTY HIGH FOR THE AREA. 
          SO THAT WAS GOOD NEWS FOR US. 
          UM, WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE THE, UM, RACE INFORMATION FOR THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T COLLECT THAT WHEN THEY COME IN. 
          CAUSE IT'S NOT HONORABLE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, THERE ARE FIVE WOMEN THAT ARE TAKING THE TEST ON SATURDAY, SO THAT'S EXCITING. 
          UM, SO YEAH, WE, WE DON'T COLLECT THAT INFORMATION BEFOREHAND. 
          AND SO I WON'T KNOW UNTIL THE ACTUAL TEST DATE. 
          OKAY. 
          DID YOU MENTION LAST TIME THAT YOU ALL WERE LOOKING AT INCORPORATING THAT EEO DATA AS PART OF THE APPLICATION? WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT. 
          UM, IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT, WE JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE ATTACHED TO THE APPLICATION, SO WE'RE TRYING TO SEE HOW WE CAN DO IT VOLUNTARILY, UM, FOR APPLICANTS TO SUBMIT. 
          UM, SO IT'S NOT TIED TO A SPECIFIC APPLICATION OR PERSON 
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BECAUSE IT WOULD NEED TO BE VOLUNTARY. 
          YEAH. 
          ALL OF YOUR APPLICATIONS ARE ALL ONLINE. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU DON'T DO ANY ART. 
          WE HAVE OUR COPIES WHERE THEY CAN DOWNLOAD IT, BUT ALSO YES, THEY CAN DO IT ONLINE ACTUALLY HAS BEEN HELPFUL. 
          UM, I THINK WE'RE GETTING MORE THAT, SO, UM, YEAH, THEY DOWNLOAD IT ALSO PRINTED OFF A HARD COPY. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE ONE FOCAL AREA THAT MAYBE WE WANT TO LOOK AT GRABBING DATA TO SEE HOW MANY OF OUR APPLICANTS ARE MINORITIES AND DOING THAT VOLUNTARY, UM, ADDENDUM. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND THAT'S, WE'RE KIND OF IN DISCUSSION WITH THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          SO, ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL, KEEP US UPDATED ON THAT. 
          I WILL DO. 
          AND RHONDA HAS HER HAND UP. 
          THAT WAS WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK. 
          CAUSE I KNOW WE MENTIONED THAT AT OUR LAST MEETING. 
          UM, BUT WE WANT IT TO BE PROVIDED WITH SOME STAFF DEMOGRAPHICS. 
          SO KATIE, YOU SAID YOU GUYS ARE IN THE WORKS, WORKING ON THAT FOR US. 
          YES. 
          AND I DID PULL SOME AND YOU CAN GET SOME GENERAL HERE FOR YOU. 
          UM, WE HAVE 75% MEN, 25% WOMEN. 
          AND THEN WE WERE LOOKING AT, UM, AT 94% CAUCASIAN AND 6% OTHER, SO THAT COULD BE AFRICAN AMERICAN, ASIAN, PACIFIC, UM, DIFFERENT ETHNICITIES. 
          SO I'M SORRY, THE OTHER'S NOT BROKEN OUT. 
          I DID NOT BREAK IT OUT INTO THAT MUCH DETAIL. 
          I CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU CAN USE THAT INFORMATION TO US, TO THE COMMISSION. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I'M RHONDA WAS TALKING AND I CUT HER OFF, RIGHT? OH, YOU'RE FINE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, KATIE, HOW MANY TOTAL STAFF IS IT? FOUR FULL-TIME AND PART-TIME WE HAVE ONE 97. 
          DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY FULL-TIME VERSUS PART-TIME? UM, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I'M THINKING THERE'S 14, 15 PART-TIME AND THE REST. 
          OKAY. 
          CORRECT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IF YOU CAN JUST SEND THAT TO US, KATIE AND BREAK IT DOWN AS MUCH AS YOU CAN, THAT HELPS GIVE US THAT GIVES US A GLIMPSE OF, UM, STAFF. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          SO THE STAFF THAT'D BE HELPFUL. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          CAN YOU ALSO WRITE THAT DOWN BY LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW MANY, UM, LIKE MINORITIES, WE HAVE MINORITY POLICE OFFICERS BROKEN DOWN BY DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, I CAN DO THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS, BUT WE HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS TWICE. 
          CAN I ASK KATIE? UM, IT'S BEEN, UM, IT'S BEEN STATED, UM, I'VE SEEN DIFFERENT POSTS, THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC ARE NOT ABLE TO GET ACCESS TO OUR RECORDINGS OF OUR MEETINGS AND OUR MINUTES OF OUR MEETINGS. 
          CAN WE GET THAT ADDED TO THE WEBSITE WHERE WE LIST, WHERE THEY CAN CLICK ON THE LINK AND IT POPS UP THE RECORDINGS OR THE LIKE THE OTHER COMMISSION MEETINGS. 
          SO THAT'S YES. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO DO SO TALK TO TONY TODAY. 
          UM, I HAVE THEM ON THUMB DRIVES AND WE'RE TRYING TO, HE'S GONNA TRY AND SEND IT TO, UM, THE AGENDA QUICK. 
          THAT'S HOW THE, THE WHAT'S WHERE THE MEETINGS ARE POSTED RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, BUT NOT BEING LIVE-STREAMED FOR THE COMMITTEES SWAG. 
          IT TAKES CARE OF THAT FOR THE LIVE STREAM. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IF AGENDA QUICK CAN TAKE, WE HAVE, OR IF WE CAN PUT IT IN A FORMAT THAT THEY CAN USE TO GO AHEAD AND PUT IT ON. 
          UM, IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO TRY ANOTHER NAB AVENUE POSSIBLY SEE IF WE CAN'T, UM, POSTED ON HOW WITH OUR IT DEPARTMENT, IT'S JUST A VERY LARGE FILE. 
          SO YEAH, WE'RE IN PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET THAT TICKET. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, I KNOW IT WAS JUST A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HAD MADE COMMENTS ABOUT NOT BEING OPEN AND TRANSPARENT WHEN, WHEN YEAH. 
          SO NO MOST DEFINITELY. 
          YES. 
          IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE, UM, IN THE FUTURE WHERE OUR MEETINGS WOULD BE LIVE-STREAMED OR IS IT JUST ALL JUST RECORDED? I BELIEVE ONCE WE CAN GET BACK INSIDE AND HAVE MEETINGS, I GO, YES, WE CAN PROBABLY LIVE STREAM THEM ALL. 
          AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH OTHER MEETINGS. 
          I KNOW THERE'S A LOT 
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OF MEETINGS GOING ON. 
          UM, SO WE CAN CERTAINLY, IF WE GET MEETINGS SCHEDULED, SET DATES, WE CAN CERTAINLY TRY AND GET THOSE STRINGS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          ONLY NEW BUSINESS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HE, UH, WHEN KATIE, WHEN DO YOU THINK ARE WHAT'S THE TARGET, UM, TIMELINE WHERE WE'LL BE ABLE TO START SEEING THOSE ON THE WEBSITE? I WISH I HAD A GOOD ANSWER FOR YOU. 
          UM, SO WHEN I HEAR BACK FROM TONY, I'LL GET WITH HIM TOMORROW AND SEE IF HE GOT AHOLD OF AGENDA QUICK, UM, TO SEE WHAT KIND OF FORMAT THEY NEED. 
          AND THEN, UM, IF IT'S EASY FOR A GENTLEMAN TO DO IT, SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM. 
          UM, BUT IT MAY, I HAVE A FEELING IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE WHILE, BUT AS SOON AS THEY'RE UP AND ON THERE, I WILL LET YOU GUYS ALL KNOW, OKAY. 
          YOU'RE VERY MUCH RIGHT. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? WE HAVE NO BUSINESS. 
          WE CAN ADJOURN OUR MEETING TONIGHT AT 9:29 PM. 
          OKAY. 
          NINE 30 DAYS. 
          WE DON'T WANT TO DO ONE MORE MINUTES TO MAKE IT EVEN 30. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO I WILL, UM, SEE EVERYONE AT OUR NEXT MEETING THE FIRST THURSDAY, THE MONTH IN JANUARY, JANUARY. 
          YEAH. 
          OH, IS THAT NEW? IS THAT, OH, I THINK IT IS NEW YEAR'S WE MAY HAVE TO IT'S NEW YEAR'S EVE. 
          OH, I CANNOT MEET NEW YEAR'S EVE PARTY. 
          A PUBLIC PARTY. 
          FIRST THURSDAY IN JANUARY IS JANUARY 7TH. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          I WILL TELL YOU NOW I CAN'T DO JANUARY 7TH, SO, UM, THAT'S OKAY. 
          I CAN GET CAUGHT UP. 
          SO I HAVE A AND EVENING THAT DAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL TRY TO SEE IF I CAN GET OUT OF IT NOW THAT THIS IS PUBLIC MADAM. 
          CO-CHAIR MISS RHONDA FOR TAKING OVER TONIGHT. 
          WE WERE ON THE ROAD. 
          SO, UM, I APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD EVENING. 
          HAPPY HOLIDAYS. 
          HAPPY, HAPPY HOLIDAYS. 
          YEAH. 
          TALK TO YOU. 
          YOU'LL BE ON YOUR COMMITTEE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BYE BYE. 
          TAKE CARE GUYS.
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