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          SO YOLANDA, IF YOU'RE READY TO GO, IT'S ALL SET. 
          I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE READY TO START NOW. 
          YES. 
          [ AGENDA CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION Remote Meeting November 5, 2020 7:00 P.M.  ]
OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE CALL THIS MEETING OF THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION TO ORDER AT 7:12 PM. 
          AND WE START WITH A ROLL CALL. 
          MR. JENKINS PRESENT IS HONAKER RESIDENCE, MS. NEWBY PRESENT MS. PURVIS, MR. RAMIREZ, YOU'RE PRESENT MR. RICHARDSON. 
          MR. STEVENS PRESENT IS STEPHENS PRESENT IF SOMEONE OKAY. 
          EVERYONE IS PRESENT. 
          WE'LL MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER THE 16TH. 
          UM, WE ORIGINALLY TABLE THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER THE 16TH BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT IT WAS, THEY WERE TOO HIGH LEVEL AND THEY WERE NOT ACTUAL MINUTES, BUT INSTEAD MORE OF A SUMMARY OF THE MEETING. 
          UM, AND SO KATIE AND I SPOKE ABOUT THAT AND I JUST GOING TO HAVE HER TALK ABOUT THAT TONIGHT. 
          IT IS A SUMMARY OF YOUR MEETING. 
          SO IT'S A SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION DISCUSSION WAS HAD, AND THEN THAT CAPTURES THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE REGARDING THAT DISCUSSION. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT THE MINUTES ARE. 
          DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT? JUST COULD, COULD YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? THAT WAS A LITTLE FAST, SORRY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO YEAH. 
          AND SO ANY DISCUSSION THAT'S HAD IT TALKS ABOUT THE DISCUSSION WAS HELD REGARDING SUCH AND SUCH WHATEVER THE TOPIC IS, AND THEN IT CAPTURES THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE ABOUT THAT DISCUSSION. 
          IF THERE WAS, IF THERE WAS A DECISION TO BE MADE REGARDING THAT DISCUSSION. 
          SO IF THERE WAS NO DECISION MADE ON THE DISCUSSION, IS THERE A NEED TO DETAIL THE DISCUSSION? UM, IT MAY BE A LITTLE MORE DETAILED, BUT PROBABLY STILL BE A SUMMARY. 
          UM, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE VERBATIM AND I WOULD RECOMMEND IF YOU GUYS WANT MORE VERBATIM THAT MAYBE A COMMISSION MEMBER WOULD BE ABLE TO STEP UP AND, AND DO THE SECRETARY ROLE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THE MINUTES ARE A SUMMARY OF THE MEETING. 
          HAS I THOUGHT FROM OUR DISC, OUR DISCUSSION IN OUR LAST MEETING THAT CAMILLE SAID THAT IT WAS A SUMMARY, BUT THAT YOU WOULD HAVE RIGHT. 
          THE MINUTES ARE A SUMMARY OF THE MEETING. 
          SO WHAT YOU HAD, WHAT YOU RECEIVED AT THE LAST MEETING. 
          THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS. 
          THOSE ARE THE MINUTES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE MINUTES WERE, THOSE WERE THE MINUTES THAT HAD COME FROM THAT MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK THE, UM, THE, I GUESS THE CONFUSION AROUND THIS IS THE FACT THAT SHE SAID THAT IT WAS A SUMMARY. 
          IT WAS NOT THE MINUTES. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I APOLOGIZE IF THERE WAS ANY KIND OF MISCOMMUNICATION. 
          UM, BUT NO, THOSE WERE THE MINUTES. 
          AND I, I TOLD HER THEY'RE JUST NOT VERBATIM. 
          AND IT WAS A SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION THAT WAS HELD. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT THE MINUTES ARE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR MINUTES ARE CAPTURING, YOU KNOW, THE IMPERATIVE THINGS RIGHT. 
          IN OUR DISCUSSIONS. 
          SO, UM, WE CAN MOVE, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER THE 16TH. 
          OKAY. 
          WHO WAS THAT? ERIC. 
          ERIC. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? ALL RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. 
          UM, WE WERE APPROVED THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER THE 16TH. 
          DO WE NEED TO DO A CALL ON THAT, KATIE? UM, YOU CAN ALL, I THAT'S FINE. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. 
          LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, THEN IT PASSES. 
          SO WE'VE APPROVED THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER THE 16TH. 
          WHEN I MOVE ON TO THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER THE EIGHTH, DO WE HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS THROUGH THE OCTOBER 8TH MINUTES? ANY, OKAY. 
          I HAVE A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS. 
          UM, AND THAT GOES BACK TO THE CONFUSION. 
          THE CONFUSION THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT WAS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AND THAT 
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IT WASN'T STATED IN THESE MINUTES THAT THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER THE 16TH, OR ACTUALLY AN OVERVIEW OR SUMMARY. 
          SO THAT WAS NOT REFLECTED UNDER NUMBER FOUR. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT REFLECTED. 
          IT SAYS CAMILLE PUMBAA WITH LIGHT, THAT MEETING MINUTES ARE INTENDED TO BE A SUMMARY OF THE MEETING, NOT A DETAILED ACCOUNT, WHICH WAS NOT ACTUALLY THE DISCUSSION. 
          ANY QUESTIONS WHEN THAT DR. 
          AKINS YOU LOOK CONFUSED? WELL, IT'S NOT CONFUSION. 
          IT'S, UM, IT'S JUST UNCERTAIN ORGANIZATION. 
          THE WAY MINUTES ARE CAPTURED DIFFERENT IN EVERY ORGANIZATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, AND, AND I'VE SEEN SOME ORGANIZATIONS THAT FEEL AND BELIEVE THAT THE, THE, THE LESS YOU WRITE THE BETTER, UNLESS THERE WAS A, UM, UNLESS THERE WAS A, A VOTE ON SOMETHING OR DECISION THAT WAS MADE BY THE BODY. 
          AND I FIND, UM, THE MINUTES THAT I'VE SEEN HERE PRESENTED IN, IN, IN, EVEN IN THE SUB COMMITTEES. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF, JUST BECAUSE OF EVERYBODY'S OWN DIFFERENT, UM, INDUSTRIES THAT YOU WORK IN, UM, YOU CAPTURE MINUTES A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT I'M USED TO. 
          IT'S JUST THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL THAT DOES NOT NEED TO BE THERE. 
          UM, AND MOSTLY BECAUSE OF, I DON'T WANT TO SAY LEGAL REASONS, BUT IT'S JUST, WHEN YOU PUT STUFF IN THERE THAT YOU'RE NOT REALLY MAKING DECISIONS ON, THEN IT CALLS TO QUESTION, WHY ARE THEY IN THE MINUTES? AND THAT'S, THAT'S, IT'S NOT CONFUSION. 
          IT'S JUST LIKE, I'M TRYING TO GRASP EXACTLY HOW MUCH WE ARE PUTTING IN OUR, IN OUR MINUTES, BECAUSE THOSE AT SOME POINT BECOME PUBLIC RECORD. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, AND SOMETIMES WHEN WE HAVE THINGS IN, IN THERE, IT CAN CREATE MORE CONFUSION. 
          LIKE IN THIS CASE, IT CREATED MORE CONFUSION FOR ME. 
          SO THAT WAS JUST ONE AMENDMENT THAT I HAD. 
          AND, UM, I ASK REAL QUICK. 
          SO NUMBER FOUR, WHEN SHE'S GOT APPROVAL OF MINUTES, UM, YOU WANT ADDED IN THERE THAT IT WAS THE, IT'S A SUMMARY OF THE MEETING. 
          YES. 
          THAT SHE STATED THAT IT WAS A SUMMARY OF THE MEETING AND THAT THEY WERE NOT THE ACTUAL MINUTE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE SAYING THOSE THINGS ARE SYNONYMOUS HERE FOR IT. 
          SAME THING. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY JUST SOUNDS LIKE A CHOICE OF VERNACULAR, WHETHER IT'S SUMMARY OR MINUTES, IT'S, IT'S THE SAME THING. 
          I MEAN, YOU WENT, YOU WENT CAPTURED WHAT CAMILLE SAID, HOW SHE THOUGHT THEY WERE A SUMMARY OF THE MINUTES WHEN ACTUALLY THEY WERE THE MINUTES. 
          RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT CAUSED THE CONFUSION. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT DOCUMENTED APPROPRIATELY. 
          UM, I THINK ONE THING TOO, THAT WILL HELP US AND I'VE KIND OF LOOKED AT THE WAY COUNCIL KEEPS THEIR MINUTES, UM, THAT MAY HELP US MOVING FORWARD TO KIND OF DETERMINE WHAT THINGS NEED TO BE CAPTURED. 
          I KNOW SOMETIMES THROUGHOUT THE MINUTES, UM, IF, IF I DON'T SEE LIKE DISCUSSION OR VOTE, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT THE, WHAT THE RESULT OF A VOTE WAS, THEN THERE MAY BE SOME OF THOSE THINGS SHOULD BE CAPTIONED IN THE, UM, IN THE MINUTES. 
          BUT I DO THINK HE WAS IN COUNCIL AS A POINT OF REFERENCE AND HOW THEY MINUTE KEEP WOULD BE GOOD FOR US AS, UM, AND I KNOW THAT TONY, THE CLERK OF COURTS, HE, HE'S VERY, VERY GOOD ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE CAPTURED AND WHAT DOESN'T FOR EASE OF DISCUSSION, I'LL VOLUNTEER TO TAKE OVER AS SECRETARY FOR THE COMMISSION. 
          THAT WAY WE CAN DECIDE AMONGST THESE FOR US, YOU KNOW, I CAN GO BACK OVER THE MINUTES. 
          I'LL VOLUNTEER. 
          IF ANYBODY HAS ANY, IF YOU'RE AGAINST IT, IT'S FINE, BUT I CAN VOLUNTEER TO TAKE OVER, UM, JUST TO MAKE THINGS A LITTLE EASIER FOR ALL. 
          I KNOW. 
          UM, I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH YOLANDA A LITTLE WHILE AGO ABOUT HAVING A SECRETARY. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IF WE WANT TO DO A SECRETARY. 
          I KNOW I DISCUSSED THAT. 
          I DID THE 
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SAME THING, TARA. 
          I VOLUNTEERED TO DO SECRETARY AS WELL. 
          UM, BUT WHAT DOES THE SECRETARY ROLE EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE GO ON AND FIGURE OUT IF ONE OF US COMMISSIONED ARE GOING TO BE THE SECRETARY ROLE, IS IT BEYOND JUST THE MINUTES OR DO YOU, OR DO WE JUST WANT A MINUTE TAKER OR DO WE SET UP THE MEETINGS? DO WE DO THE AGENDAS LIKE EXACTLY? WHAT DOES THIS ROLE PLAY BEFORE WE APPOINT ONE OF US AS THE SECRETARY, SINCE, UM, I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IN THE HANDBOOK, IT'S IT STATES WITH THE LIAISON FROM THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR OUR COMMISSION. 
          SO, UM, MAYBE PASSING, YOU CAN SUGGEST, UH, LET US KNOW WHAT EXACTLY DOES THE SECRETARY ROLE, LIKE, WHAT IS THE ROLE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THAT ROLE IN THE COMMISSION? IF WE PLACE ONE OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS AS THE SECRETARY, I WOULD LOOK AT IT AS MINUTES BECAUSE THE LIAISON IS EXACTLY THAT IT'S LIAISON. 
          WE DO COOL. 
          SET UP THE AGENDA IS WE'LL SET UP THE MEETINGS, JUST LIKE WE HAVE BEEN. 
          SO, YEAH, I THINK THAT, UM, THANK YOU, TARA, FOR VOLUNTEERING. 
          ALSO, I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AS A COMMISSION. 
          UM, I DO LIKE RONDA'S IDEA OF HAVING OUR MINUTES REFLECTIVE OF THE WAY THE CITY COUNCILS MINUTES ARE SET UP. 
          AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD HELP. 
          SO I THINK THAT WE WOULD, UM, THAT WOULD BE THE BEST AVENUE TO PROCEED DOWN AT THIS POINT IN TIME. 
          I KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL STRETCHED VERY THIN WITH THE COMMITTEES AND YOU KNOW, DOING A LOT OF WORK. 
          SO DOES THAT SOUND GOOD? OKAY. 
          UM, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT ON, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT AS ASSIGNING, SIGNING, OR TALKED ABOUT THE CHAIRPERSON ON PAGE FIVE OF THE MINUTES, THAT WE DID NOT ACTUALLY APPOINT CHAIR PEOPLE OVER THE COMMITTEES, THE MINUTE STATE THAT WE DID, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE, THEY WERE GOING TO DECIDE ON THE CHAIRPERSON IN THEIR MEETINGS. 
          SO THE COMMITTEES WERE TO STAY ON THE CHAIRS. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK MADAM CHAIR. 
          YES. 
          I THINK THE VERNACULAR WE USE WITH CHAIR PRO CAMP IS WHAT YOU WERE ASSIGNED. 
          SO THE MINUTES ARE ACCURATE. 
          WE CAN PROBABLY MEET INSTEAD OF DELETING THAT QUID PRO TIP, BECAUSE THOSE WERE, THAT WAS BEFORE WE STARTED OUR SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS. 
          YES, MAN. 
          CHAIR. 
          I AGREE WITH BRAD STATEMENT THAT, THAT IS THE CASE. 
          THERE WAS THE CHAIR PRO TEM, CORRECT? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE OTHER CLARIFICATION. 
          I KNOW WE'VE BEEN USING THE TERM SUB COMMITTEE, RIGHT. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE SUBCOMMITTEES. 
          WE HAVE A COMMISSION THAT WE HAVE COMMITTEES THAT ARE UP UNDER THE COMMISSION, SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE SHOULD BE USING THE TERM SET UP COMMITTEES, BECAUSE AT THIS POINT WE JUST HAVE COMMITTEE RIGHT UP THE COMMISSION. 
          AGREED. 
          I AGREE AS WELL. 
          GREAT. 
          OKAY, KATIE, YOU GOT THAT? YEP. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND I THINK PROBABLY THE LAST THING THAT I HAVE WAS UNDER THE, UH, THE, UM, NEW BUSINESS AND UNDER THE ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION, WE DISCUSSED PROCESSES AND PERSONNEL POLICY AND INTERNAL PROMOTIONS. 
          AND WE SPECIFICALLY TALKED ABOUT THE PROMOTE FROM WITHIN POLICY, BUT I SAW SOMETHING THAT WAS REFLECTIVE OF SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THAT. 
          ARE YOU UNDER, WHERE ARE YOU AT YOLANDA UNDER OTHER ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          NUMBER EIGHT, DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER POSITION. 
          AND WE SPECIFICALLY TALKED ABOUT THE PROMOTE WITHIN POLICY. 
          YEAH. 
          DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE POLICIES, UM, REFLECTIVE OF WHAT, WHATEVER THAT POLICY NUMBER IS. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT INSERTED IN 
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THERE SO THAT, UM, BECAUSE POLICY IS GENERAL, SO IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SEE WHAT POLICY WE'RE REFERRING TO IN THERE. 
          UM, AND I THINK I, I NAMED IT WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING IT. 
          UM, YEAH, WE DID. 
          THAT WAS EVERYTHING THAT I HAD. 
          OKAY. 
          I MOVED, I'M GOING TO PUT IN BOTH FROM THE POINT MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THE THREE LIMITS THAT THE CHAIR RECOMMENDED SECOND. 
          IT, OKAY. 
          IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECOND DEBT, ANYONE IN OPPOSITION OF ACCEPTING THE MINUTES THAT AMENDMENT WITH THE AMENDMENTS, NONE A POST THE MEETINGS WILL MINUTES WILL BE ACCEPTED WITH THE REVISIONS, WITH THE AMENDMENTS AS STATED, OKAY. 
          OLD BUSINESS BIAS BASED SERVICE POLICY. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED AT OUR LAST MEETING. 
          UM, AND ROB SHOMER BROUGHT THIS TO US AND A COPY OF IT WAS PROVIDED AT OUR LAST MEETING. 
          AND I ASKED THAT AT THIS POINT THAT WE ALL, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE REVIEWED THAT POLICY AND MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE MAY HAVE PRIOR TO OUR NEXT MEETING. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          MARTIN LUTHER KING EVENTS, UH, RHONDA. 
          UM, SO I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING I DISCUSSED THAT LAST YEAR, THE AMB, UM, COMMISSION DID LEAD THE UNITY WALK AND THE MARTIN LUTHER KING EVENT. 
          UM, AND I KNOW THAT THE OUTREACH COMMITTEE DID DO SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MLK EVENT. 
          AND I KNOW THAT CHERYL, THE CHAIR OF AMB IS ALSO, UM, WILLING TO PARTNER WITH US ON THAT IF WE WANT TO. 
          UM, SO I GUESS THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE FOR, UM, THE COMMISSION IS BEING THAT WE ARE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY. 
          IS, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THE LEAD ON OR ARE YOU ARE WILLING TO PARTNER WITH ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION? WE WOULD STEER THE EVENT OBVIOUSLY, UM, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF OUR COMMISSION, BUT IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE, WOULD BE FAVORABLE TO PARTNERING WITH ANOTHER COMMISSION TO, UM, HAVE, UH, MLK EVENT THEY MAY BE DOING SEPARATE EVENTS? I'M NOT SURE. 
          UM, THEY MAY TAKE ON THE WALK. 
          I REALLY DON'T KNOW. 
          I THINK YOLANDA AND I MAY HAVE A MEETING WITH CHERYL AND MAYBE CINDY, THE CO-ADVISOR OF AMB, BUT ARE YOU ALL FAVORABLE TO WORKING WITH ANOTHER COMMISSION ON THIS EVENT, UM, BEING THAT WE WOULD STEER KIND OF SPEARHEAD THE EVENT? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? HONESTLY, I THINK, UM, TO BE, UM, I KNOW ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION NORMALLY HAS TAKEN ON ROLES LIKE THIS FOR THOSE KINDS OF EVENTS, BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ANOTHER COMMISSION. 
          NOW THERE IS A CULTURE AND DIVERSITY COMMISSION. 
          SO I THINK AN, OUR ROLE AS THIS NEW COMMISSION EVENTS THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH DIVERSITY, INCLUSION, UNITY, UM, THINGS THAT ARE AROUND CULTURE AND STUFF SHOULD BE SPEARHEADED BY THIS COMMISSION. 
          NOT THAT OUR, TO BEAUTIFICATION, HASN'T DONE A WONDERFUL JOB. 
          THEY HAVE BEEN DOING A WONDERFUL JOB, BUT I THINK THIS IS LIKE IT'S SIMILAR TO THE CULTURAL FESTIVAL. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK SHOULD BE UNDER THIS COMMISSION, BECAUSE THAT IS PART OF OUR, OUR GOAL. 
          AND OUR MISSION OF THIS COMMISSION IS TO, UM, THAT'S OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH IS TO DO THAT. 
          SO, I MEAN, I I'M ALL FOR HAVING OTHER COMMISSIONS HELPING 
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OUT BECAUSE I KNOW PARTS OF WRECKS HELPS OUT, YOU KNOW, THINGS HELP OUT. 
          BUT I THINK THESE ARE EVENTS, EVENTS, AND ANY OTHER FUTURE EVENTS THAT ARE SIMILAR TO THIS SHOULD BE, UH, SPEARHEADED BY THE, THE H H C E D A C DIVERSITY COMMISSION, THE CDC. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY. 
          CAUSE I THINK THIS WOULD BE ARTS AND REUNIFICATION PROJECTS. 
          I THINK, I DON'T KNOW WHY, UM, TAKE SOME OF THIS OFF THEIR ALREADY BUSY THING THAT THEY'RE DOING BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING WONDERFUL WORK. 
          IT'S JUST, THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF WORK. 
          SO THIS IS NOW WITH THIS NEW COMMISSION WE CAN DO, WE CAN TAKE ON THE ROLE BECAUSE THIS FALLS UNDER OUR MISSIONS AND OUR GOALS OF THIS NEW COMMISSION. 
          I THINK IN OUR LAST MEETING, WE, UM, WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD SPEARHEAD IT AND ACTUALLY CHERYL, THE CHAIR HAD, DID REACH OUT TO ME AND I SHARED WITH HER THAT WE WOULD SPEARHEAD IT. 
          UM, BUT I THINK RHONDA WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE OKAY WITH HAVING ASSISTANCE WITH THAT FROM OUT FROM OTHER COMMISSIONS. 
          ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT? OKAY. 
          UM, AND THEY WERE HAPPY. 
          THEY'RE HAPPY TO HELP OUT IF WE NEED IT. 
          SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD UTILIZE THEIR ASSISTANCE AND I'M SURE THEY WILL NOT MIND US SPEARHEADING IT AT ALL. 
          AND I THINK, UM, RHONDA SPEARHEADED THAT THE, THE WALK AND THE EVENT LAST YEAR AND WAS IT LAST YEAR? YES, LAST YEAR. 
          ANYWAY. 
          SO, UM, WE'VE GOT A PERSON HERE AND IT WAS A LOT OF WORK TOO. 
          I KNOW FRED HAS SOME IDEAS AND WE TALKED ABOUT HE, JEAN AND I TALKED ABOUT IN OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH I GUESS HE'LL UPDATE IN THE, UH, COMMITTEE REPORT OR, OR NOW WHICHEVER, SINCE IT'S MLK RELATED, I RECOMMEND THAT WE REACH OUT TO, UM, THOSE WHO WENT APPLY FOR THE COMMISSION ALSO THAT WERE INTERESTED IN BEING INVOLVED, THAT I'M SURE THAT THEY'D BE HAPPY TO VOLUNTEER AND HELP OUT WITH THIS EVENT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE UNDER MARTIN LUTHER KING EVENT, FRED, THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE? EXCUSE ME, DR. 
          AKINS, DID YOU WANT TO SHARE REALLY, AS FAR AS WE GOT WAS, UM, AND I THINK I WAS KIND OF STONEWALLED A LITTLE BIT CALLING, UM, UH, BROTHER WIT MORE OUT FOR WHATEVER REASON HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET A HOLD OF HIM. 
          UM, AND I'VE SENT EMAILS AS WELL ON NUMBERS TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE CITY OF DAYTON IS NOT TO CONFLICT WITH, UH, WITH THINGS THAT WE PLAN TO DO HERE, YOUR RIGHTS, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A BIG CHALLENGE BECAUSE I KNOW THEY HAVE THINGS GOING ON ALL WEEKEND LONG, BUT, UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE, UM, THE, THE WHOLE COVID THING, WHICH IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, UM, WHICH IS GOING TO AFFECT PLANNING OR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER, UM, UH, ANOTHER MEETING OR WE'LL BRING THAT UP AT OUR NEXT, UM, OUR NEXT OUTREACH BEATEN AND FIND OUT WHAT WE CAN DO SPECIFICALLY IN THAT, EVEN IF WE DON'T GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO HIM OR, UM, OR, OR FIND OUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN DAILY AND JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DO OUR OWN THING HERE AND YOUR BRIDES, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT THEN WE CAN JUST HOPE IT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH ANYTHING MAJOR GOING ON IN THE CITY. 
          CAUSE I REALLY DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT, BUT THAT THE BIG BREAKFAST THAT THEY NORMALLY DO IN THE EVENING, I REALLY DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT STUFF. 
          SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WHATEVER WE DO IS GOING TO CONFLICT TOO MUCH WITH ANY LARGE GATHERING OR SOCIAL EVENT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I, WHAT ALSO MAYBE SUGGEST THAT, UM, LOU DALE, WHO WAS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER PRIOR, SHE SPEARHEADED A LOT OF CITY EVENTS AROUND MLK AND THIS WAS YEARS AGO. 
          UM, SHE WOULD BE A GOOD RESOURCE AND, UM, YOLANDA, UH, NOT YOLANDA, UM, CINDY DAVIDSON FROM THE AMB COMMITTEE, HER DAUGHTER, AMBER, I CAN'T REMEMBER HER LAST NAME ALSO IS ON THE COMMITTEE TO PLAN THE DINNERS AND THE MLK BANQUET AND ALL THAT FOR THE CITY OF DAYTON TOO. 
          SO SHE, SOMEBODY ELSE THAT WE CAN, UM, WE CAN, UM, MAYBE CONTACT, I DON'T KNOW IF AMBER IS DOING THAT THIS YEAR, BUT SHE WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WAS INVOLVED LAST YEAR OR SO. 
          AND SHE ACTUALLY WAS AT THE RALLY TOO. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
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VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THINGS GOING ON IN HERE, BRIGHTS. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANKS FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT. 
          OUR NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          UM, WE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD BY TAKING OUR CHAIR, PEOPLE FROM THE COMMITTEES AND BRINGING INFORMATION FROM YOUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS TO ABSORB AND DEVELOP OR MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPING A NEEDS ASSESSMENT PROCESS OR PLAN. 
          SO I WILL BE REACHING OUT TO THE CHAIRS TO SET A MEETING FOR A NEEDS ASSESSMENT TO FOCUS ON THAT PIECE. 
          ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS, HUBER HEIGHTS, OPEN POSITIONS. 
          SO THE FIRE CHIEF POSITION THAT WE DISCUSSED LAST AT OUR LAST MEETING HAS NOW BEEN OPEN. 
          IT IS NOW ON THE HUBER HEIGHTS WEBPAGE. 
          SO IT IS NO LONGER JUST A CLOSED, OPEN TO CITY PERSONNEL EMPLOYEES, BUT THEY HAVE OPENED IT UP AND I'VE SEEN IT PUBLICIZED IN VARIOUS PLACES. 
          SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 
          THERE ARE ALSO ADDITIONAL POSITIONS OPENING FOR FIREMEN SLASH PARAMEDICS. 
          SO I'M INTERESTED AT LOOKING AT WHAT THE CITY DOES, WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR DIVERSITY RECRUITMENT. 
          WHAT ARE WE DOING? DIVERSIFY OUR FORCE. 
          KATIE, DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT INTO THAT? OUR PROCESS IS WE DO AN ENTRY LEVEL TEST. 
          SO IT'S A WRITTEN TEST FROM AN OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION. 
          WE ADVERTISE, UM, ALL AROUND WITH ADVERTISING DAILY. 
          IT'S ON MONSTER IT'S, IT'LL BE ON, ON DEED. 
          UM, AND THEN THEY RECRUITED THE SCHOOLS. 
          SO BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE CERTIFICATIONS, THEY SEND OUT THE NOTICE TO THE SCHOOLS. 
          UM, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE OR THE OTHER, THEY HAVE TO BE A FIREFIGHTER LEVEL TWO OR A PARAMEDIC OR ENROLLED IN ONE OR THE OTHERS. 
          YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE CERTIFICATION AND AT LEAST ENROLLED IN ANOTHER, BECAUSE AT TIME OF APPOINTMENT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THOSE CERTIFICATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          HOW DO WE, DO WE HAVE ANY PROCESSES IN PLACE TO TARGET MINORITY CANDIDATES? LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST, THAT'S THE PROCESS WE DO. 
          UM, BECAUSE IT'S THROUGH SCHOOLING. 
          SO THEY ADVERTISE AT THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME CERTIFICATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THERE'S NOT, WE'RE NOT REACHING OUT TO LIKE THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIREFIGHTER, BLACK FIREFIGHTERS OR ANY OF THOSE GROUPS WHERE WE HAVE MINORITY POSSIBLE MINORITY CANDIDATES THAT SPECIFICALLY NO, IT'S OPEN TO JOB BOARDS. 
          AND LIKE I SAID, I KNOW THE FIREMEN, THEY GO TO THE JOB FAIRS AT THE SCHOOL. 
          UM, THEY TRY TO GET PEOPLE ENGAGED IN THAT. 
          UM, AND RECRUITING AT THE CO AT THE COLLEGES WITH THE TRAINING PROGRAMS. DO, I'M NOT SURE IF LIKE WILBERFORCE OR CENTRAL STATE HAS ANY PROGRAMS LIKE THAT ARE OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, WHAT SCHOOLS ARE YOU REFERRING TO? WHAT SCHOOLS DO YOU REACH OUT TO KATE? UM, I WOULD NEED TO DOUBLE-CHECK WITH, UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT I KNOW IT GOES TO SINCLAIR. 
          UM, I BELIEVE CLERK, STATE DID HAVE ONE. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE WHERE THEY'RE AT. 
          UM, AND FORTIS, I BELIEVE FORTIS DOES COLLEGE. 
          THEY HAVE A PROGRAM. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          GO AHEAD, JANE. 
          I'M SO SORRY, MAN. 
          CHAIR HAD MY HAND UP. 
          THAT WAS MY QUESTION AS WELL. 
          AS FAR AS WHAT SCHOOLS RECRUITMENT IS BEING DONE. 
          IS THERE A REASON WHY ONLY, YOU MENTIONED SINCLAIR FORT TEST. 
          AND WAS THERE ANOTHER SCHOOL KATIE THAT YOU MENTIONED? UM, LIKE I SAID, I BELIEVE CLARK STATE DID HAVE, I'M NOT SO SURE THEY'VE GOT ONE NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE A REASON WHY ONLY THOSE THREE SCHOOLS CONTACTED? I BELIEVE THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY COLLEGES THAT HAVE THOSE PROGRAMS. OKAY. 
          THOSE, THOSE PROGRAMS ARE OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT KIND OF, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF HOW'S THAT TWO YEAR SCHOOLS WAS BECAUSE A FOUR YEAR DEGREE IS REALLY NOT REQUIRED FOR THAT. 
          SO USUALLY THE TWO YEAR SCHOOLS PICK THOSE KINDS OF PROGRAMS UP IN ORDER TO INCREASE ENROLLMENT AND HELP PROVIDE A COMMUNITY SERVICES. 
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I DON'T LIKE THAT TERM EITHER, BUT, AND WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE, UH, TERMINOLOGY, BUT THEY ARE ALSO CREATING ELIGIBILITY LISTS THOUGH. 
          SO I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THERE, THEY'RE CREATING AN ELIGIBILITY LIST. 
          THIS, THIS IS ALL ON THE HUBER HEIGHTS WEBSITE. 
          UM, THERE IS A TECH, A TEST, A CIVIL SERVICE EXAM THAT'S HAPPENING ON DECEMBER THE FIFTH. 
          AND SO IN THAT SITUATION, I THINK ANYBODY CAN TAKE THE TEST, CORRECT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BABY. 
          UM, WE HAVE IT TO WHERE YOU CAN HAVE ONE OR THE OTHER CERTIFICATIONS, BUT SINCE YOU HAVE TO HAVE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LEVEL TWO AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PARAMEDIC IN OUR DIVISION BECAUSE IT'S A CAREER DEPARTMENT AND THAT'S WHERE THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE COMING IN TO TAKE THE CIVIL SERVICE EXAM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT. 
          YES. 
          FOR THE ELIGIBILITY LIST. 
          CORRECT. 
          BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE ONE, THEY HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE BECAUSE THE PROCESS, THE TRAINING PROGRAM, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT THE FIRE CHIEF, BUT THE TRAINING PROGRAM IS A LONG PROGRAM. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOURS IT IS, BUT TO PUT SOMEBODY THROUGH A LEVEL, TWO PROGRAM AND THEN TO PUT THEM THROUGH A PARAMEDIC PROGRAM, YOU'RE TALKING ALMOST PROBABLY TWO YEARS. 
          SO THE ELIGIBILITY LIST, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME, SOME SORT OF CRITERIA. 
          SO WE ARE SO WE CAN HIRE OFF OF THAT LIST AND NOT HAVE TO WAIT FOR TWO YEARS TO HIRE SOMEBODY WHEN WE HAVE A VACANCY. 
          AND GO AHEAD, RHONDA. 
          AND SO THEN I GUESS MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, IS AFTER THE ELIGIBILITY LIST IS CREATED, I NOTICED SOMETHING ABOUT INTERVIEWING, UM, WHO, WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR INTERVIEWING THESE CANDIDATES. 
          I THINK IT SAID THE TOP 25 SCORES WOULD THEN BE, UM, TAKEN, UH, INTERVIEW PANEL OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. 
          WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? UM, YOU KNOW, WE PUT TOGETHER IT'S A MIXTURE OF, UM, CITY ADMINISTRATION AND FIRE. 
          WOULD THERE BE ANY MINORITY CANDIDATES, CANDIDATES THAT WOULD SIT ON THAT PANEL? WHEN YOU SAY CANDIDATES INTERVIEWING MINORITY INTERVIEWERS? WE HAVEN'T SELECTED IT YET, SO POSSIBILITY. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I THOUGHT ERIC, YEAH. 
          DO YOU HAVE A, SO YOU DON'T HAVE A POLICY WHEN YOU ACTUALLY HIRE FOR CERTAIN POSITIONS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ASSUME FOR, FOR DIFFERENT POSITIONS, RIGHT. 
          YOU HAVE AN INTERVIEW PANEL THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER. 
          RIGHT. 
          DOES THAT INTERVIEW PANEL, UH, DOES IT REQUIRE FOR IT TO BE SOMEWHAT DIVERSE? RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO AT LEAST ONE FEMALE OR MALE OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. 
          IS THERE ANY SORT OF REQUIREMENT THAT IT BE DIVERSE, THE INTERVIEW PANEL ITSELF FOR ANY POSITION? NO, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT, BUT WILL WE TRY TO DO, IS WE TRY TO BALANCE IT OUT WHERE WE GET LINE PERSONNEL AND MAYBE A MIDDLE MANAGER AND MAYBE A MANAGER. 
          CAUSE, CAUSE IF POSSIBLE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE NUMBERS YET ON LIKE THE, THE DIVERSITY IN TERMS OF CITY EMPLOYMENT. 
          BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A DIVERSE INTERVIEW PANEL FOR ALL POSITIONS WITHIN THE CITY. 
          UM, AND ARE THERE ANY POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS GIVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN SIT ON AND INTERVIEWS AS A WAY TO DIVERSIFY OUR PANEL, MEET ANY MEMBERS? NO, WE HAVE NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CHARTER DOES STATE THAT, UM, WOULD BE A POSSIBILITY. 
          SO I DO THINK IF YOU GET PEOPLE, UM, FROM STAFF FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF MINORITY INTERVIEWERS ON THE PANEL, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A MORE VARIED, UM, DECISION. 
          UM, AND ONE THAT MAY NOT BE QUITE SO BIASED. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          WE'RE LOOKING FOR 
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A NON BIAS DECISION. 
          UM, AND I THINK IF YOU HAVE ALL STAFF, UM, YOU GET A BIAS DECISION, BUT IF YOU BRING IN POSSIBLY SOME DIVERSE CANDIDATES FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, YOU MAY, YOU MAY GET A DIFFERENT, UM, A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF BUY-IN YOU NEED DIVERSE INTERVIEWERS OR YOU MAKE DIVERSITY, DIVERSE, DIVERSE, DIVERSE INTERVIEWERS. 
          I THINK THE PANEL, THE PANEL SHOULD BE DIVERSE, BUT NOT JUST DIVERSE THE SENSE OF DIVERSE STAFF, MAYBE SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS, SOME STAFF, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND STAFF AT ALL LEVELS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, YES, I AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT THAT RON HAD JUST MADE BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW, THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND HEBREW HEIGHTS THAT HAD THAT BACKGROUND. 
          OH. 
          UM, AFTER I GET THEIR BUY-IN, AS FAR AS RECRUITING, YOU KNOW, MINORITIES FOR THOSE POSITIONS. 
          SO WHAT IS THE PROCESS TO HELP TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? KATIE, TO DIVERSIFY OUR INTERVIEWING STAFF, I WOULD DO, DO YOU HAVE A CITY MANAGER? OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND MAYBE THAT'S WHERE WE, UH, MADAM CHAIR, AS WE GATHER, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME OF THE CURRENT DOCUMENTATION ON HIRING AND OTHER POLICIES AS WE REVIEW THEM, THAT'S MAYBE, YOU KNOW, AS WE REVIEW THEM AND SEE WHAT'S, UH, WHAT'S INCLUDED, THAT'S WHERE WE CAN START MAKING SOME OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS RIGHT. 
          ON WHAT CHANGES AND THINGS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE BE INCORPORATED. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, THAT'S MAYBE WHERE WE START. 
          SO I THINK THAT WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED A COUPLE AT THIS POINT, THAT'S LOOKING AT THE INTERVIEW PROCESS AND ENSURING THAT WE HAVE A DIVERSE INTERVIEW PANEL AND ALSO LOOKING AT THE, UM, PROMOTE FROM WITHIN POLICY AND HOW THAT MAY PRODUCE SOME DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES. 
          SO THOSE ARE TWO THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW FROM AN HR PERSPECTIVE. 
          SO KATIE, UM, IF YOU CAN PLEASE SPEND, GOT SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT, ON THE INTERVIEW PANEL. 
          AND ALSO, UM, WE WANT TO BEGIN LOOKING AT THAT, THE POLICY, THE PROMOTE FROM WITHIN POLICY IN WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO REVAMP THAT. 
          AND THEN I DID HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION I NOTICED ON THE WEBSITE. 
          IT DID SAY THAT THERE WAS ONE INTERNAL CANDIDATE, UM, OR THE FIRE CHIEF POSITION. 
          UM, KATIE, DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG THAT POSITION WAS POSTED INTERNALLY BEFORE IT WENT INTO, UH, EXTERNALLY? I DON'T KNOW, SPECIFIC DATES. 
          I WAS NOT INVOLVED. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SO IS HR ONLY INVOLVED LIKE IN CERTAIN POSITIONS WITH CERTAIN POSITIONS? OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? THIS WAS A CITY MANAGERS. 
          IT WAS SENTENCED IN AN EXECUTIVE POSITION. 
          OKAY. 
          D DOES THAT POSITION FOR INTERNAL CANDIDATES? DO THEY ALSO HAVE TO, DO THEY HAVE TO TEST IF THEY'RE AN INTERNAL CANDIDATE THAT WOULD BE DECIDED ON THE PROCESS AT THE DONE EXECUTIVE POSITIONS TYPICALLY DON'T TEST. 
          WHEN YOU SAY TYPICALLY, IS, IS THERE NOT A POLICY ON INTERNAL POSTINGS AND INTERNAL CANDIDATES? CAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS THEY, IS THERE A CONSISTENT POLICY WITH REGARD TO INTERNAL CANDIDATES AND INTERNAL POSTS THAT ANYONE COULD LOOK AT AND SEE THAT THERE WASN'T A BIAS DECISION MADE? I BELIEVE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARTICLES. 
          DID SHE CUT OUT OR DOES IT MEAN WHAT HAPPENED? WE LOST VOLUME THERE. 
          OKAY. 
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THERE WAS SOME ARTICLE I THINK SHE MAY HAVE DROPPED OFF. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          YOUR ARTICLE THREE. 
          UM, YES, WE HAVE NON-EXEMPT AND EXEMPT POSITIONS. 
          SO FOR NON-EXEMPT POSITIONS, THE PROMOTE FROM WITHIN THE, IT GETS POSTED FOR THE SEVEN DAYS, THE EXEMPT POSITION. 
          IT CAN BE POSTED FOR SEVEN DAYS. 
          IT COULD BE, UM, SINCE IT EXEMPT POSITIONS OR AN ORANGE EXECUTIVE DISHES DECISION THAT THE CITY MANAGER DECIDES HOW THAT WOULD BE HANDLED. 
          SO THE CITY MANAGER MAKES THAT DECISION BY HERSELF. 
          FOR WHEN YOU SAY EXECUTIVE, ARE YOU SAYING, IS YOUR POINTS, HIRES AND FIRES? HE'S THE ONE WHO MAKES ALL THE APPOINTMENTS. 
          SO IS IT, I GUESS WHEN I THINK OF APPOINTMENT, I THINK THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN INTERVIEW PROCESS. 
          SO IS THERE A DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN NO, WE WOULD STILL GO THROUGH AN INTERVIEW PROCESS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS WHAT HE WAS DOING. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I DO, KATIE? YOU MENTIONED THAT IN ORDER TO PREPARE, TO BE LIKE A LEVEL TWO FIRE, THAT IT'S A PROCESS. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY CITIES, UM, THAT HAVE A DIVERSITY RECRUITMENT INITIATIVE TRAINING PROGRAM. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IN OTHER CITIES. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS LOOKED AT OR CONSIDERED A TRAINING PROGRAM AS FAR AS WHAT RUNNING OUR OWN ACADEMY, SENDING THEM THROUGH IT? I MEAN, WHAT ARE YOU PREPARING A BASICALLY SETTING A DIVERSITY RECRUITMENT PLAN IN ORDER TO DIVERSIFY OUR FORCE, OUR FIRE FIREFIGHTERS. 
          THIS IS AT THE POLICE LEVEL ALSO. 
          RIGHT? SO ARE YOU, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT GOING TO TRAINING AND SENDING SOMEONE WHO'S NOT CERTIFIED SENDING THEM, SENDING THEM THROUGH, THROUGH THE CITY TO GET THOSE CERTIFICATIONS INSTEAD OF RECRUITING THOSE THAT MAY ALREADY HAVE THE CERTIFICATIONS? YES. 
          YEAH, NO, WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, I WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY TO CONSIDER AND LOOK AT, BECAUSE ONE OF OUR GOALS, AS ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE COMMISSION IS ONE TO HELP TO DIVERSIFY THE WORKFORCE IN THE CITY, WHICH MEANS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON AVENUES OF DOING THAT. 
          SO WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THE HIRING PRACTICES. 
          WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE RECRUITMENT PRACTICES AND HOW WE'RE GOING ABOUT RECRUITING. 
          SO ONE AVENUE TO DIVERSIFY IT, TO RECRUIT MORE MINORITIES IN OUR CITY IS TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT ESTABLISHING IT DIVERSITY RECRUITMENT PLAN AND TRAINING PLAN. 
          SO THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S ONE MORE THING THAT WE'LL ADD TO THE LIST. 
          SO, KATIE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO THAT AT ALL, WITH HR CONNECTIONS, WITH OTHER CITIES OR THINGS, ANYTHING WE CAN ADD IT TO THE LIST. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'LL ADD, PUT THAT ON THE LIST AND WE'LL ADD THAT TO OUR DISCUSSION FOR NEXT MONTH THAT HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOME UPDATE ON THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          YOU WANT ME TO GET BACK TO YOU NEXT MONTH REGARDING A PLAN? OKAY. 
          NOT A PLAN, BUT I I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT A LOT GOING ON. 
          SO RE JUST WHATEVER YOU FIND, W B SEARCH WISE, BRING THAT BACK. 
          NOT AN ENTIRE PLAN. 
          IS THAT DOABLE? WELL, AND THIS IS SOMETHING TOO THAT OBVIOUSLY I'D HAVE TO RUN TO THE CITY MANAGER, SO YEAH, WE WILL, WE WILL DISCUSS IT. 
          OKAY. 
          DISCUSS, LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES OR OTHER, OTHER CITIES BENCHMARKING OUT FOR OTHER CITIES. 
          YES. 
          I CAN MENTION IT TO HIM. 
          SO KATIE, I, I'M SORRY. 
          I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING. 
          DO YOU HAVE TO RUN ALL OF YOUR HR DECISIONS THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER WHEN IT COMES TO POLICY? YES. 
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SO WOULD THIS BE CONSIDERED A POLICY IF WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT RECRUITMENT, THIS IS A BREATH OF BEST OF BEST PRACTICE. 
          I WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WOULD WANT TO BE A CITY THAT HAD THESE TYPES OF PRACTICES IN PLACE. 
          UM, I WOULDN'T THINK THE CITY MANAGER WOULD HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THAT. 
          I'M NOT SAYING YOU WOULD HAVE AN OBJECTION. 
          I'M SAYING THE POLICY, WHEN WE WRITE POLICY, IT HAS TO BE APPROVED AND IT HAS TO BE VETTED THROUGH COUNSEL, UM, AND LEGAL COUNSEL. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A POLICY RIGHT NOW, KATIE, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR YOU TO, I GUESS BEGIN THE PROCESS OF, AS YOLANDA SAID, BENCHMARKING, MAYBE SOME OTHER CITIES, UM, TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING AROUND, UM, RECRUITMENT AND DIVERSITY RECRUITING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          SO WE'RE NOT AT THE POLICY LEVEL AT THIS POINT. 
          WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BENCHMARK WHAT SOME OTHER CITIES ARE DOING SUCCESSFULLY. 
          OKAY. 
          I WILL GET BACK TO YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, TARA, YOU HAVE YOUR HANDOUT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I THINK WE'RE GETTING LOST IN LIKE THE POLICY VERBIAGE USE HERE. 
          I THINK IT'S JUST THAT WHAT WE'RE ASKING OF IS THE CITY TO CONSIDER THE INITIATIVE OR SOMEHOW THE BEGINNINGS OF THE PLAN. 
          YOU KNOW, THIS IS A NEW COMMISSION, WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO GRASS WORK, YOU KNOW, FROM THE GROUND UP WORK. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE ASKING FOR THE CITY'S BUY-IN ON THIS. 
          AND PART OF THAT BUY-IN THAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS THAT INITIATIVES AND THINGS ARE JUST, UM, ABLE TO BE VETTED OUT AS THE COMMISSION AND THEN WITH CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS, NOT ONLY FOR POLICE AND FIRE, BUT FOR ALL ASPECTS OF CITY WORKERS SHOULD BE A FOCUS ON DIVERSITY RECRUITMENT AND HIRING PRACTICES. 
          SO NOT TO, TO SAY KATIE, YOU KNOW, MAKE US POLICY, GET IT DONE. 
          JUST WHAT IS THE CITY'S BUY-IN WHAT IS THEIR INITIATIVE? WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO, UM, IN THEIR OWN RIGHT? TO ASSIST US WITH FOCUSING ON DIVERSITY HIRING AND AS THE CITY WANTS TO ALSO, SO YEAH, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING IS KIND OF, I GUESS WHAT'S THE CITY'S PLAN. 
          CAN WE GET TOGETHER WITH WHAT THEIR PLAN OR VISION MIGHT BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT OUR VISION? MAYBE IF THERE IS ONE ERIC YOU'RE ON MUTE. 
          SORRY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          BUT JUST SO THAT I'M CLEAR, RIGHT? I THINK THAT THIS ASK, RIGHT. 
          I THINK FROM RHONDA AND LONDA IS JUST GATHERING INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING AS IT RELATES TO DIVERSITY AND RECRUITMENT, RIGHT. 
          IT'S JUST GATHERING ARTIFACTS AND INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT OTHER FOLKS ARE DOING AND BRINGING THAT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. 
          RIGHT? ISN'T THAT SORT OF WHAT THE INITIAL REQUEST IS, IS JUST NOT NECESSARILY THE ONLY ACCIDENT. 
          CAN YOU JUST REACH OUT TO SOME OF THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES, OTHER HR DEPARTMENTS, SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING, GATHER IF THEY HAVE A POLICY OR SOMETHING THAT DESCRIBES WHAT THEY'RE DOING AS IT RELATES TO THE VERGE STUDY AND, UH, RECRUITMENT AND WHAT HAVE YOU, RIGHT. 
          OR WHATEVER POSITIVE THAT THEY HAVE TO, TO TRY AND CREATE A DIVERSE WORKFORCE. 
          THAT'S ALL I THINK INITIALLY IS BEING REQUESTED OR AT LEAST GATHER THAT RESEARCH OR DO THE RESEARCH TO GATHER THAT INFORMATION. 
          DID I SUM THAT UP, RIGHT? UM, YES. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE IT. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IS THAT CLEAR CLEARER, KATIE? YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I MEAN, I'M JUST, THAT'S, I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT THAT. 
          I MEAN, ROB'S A BIG PROPONENT OF THAT, SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT OR WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT, BUT I MEAN, WE WILL CERTAINLY, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          CAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S THAT'S IMPERATIVE. 
          THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY FOR OUR CITY, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS LOOKED AT, OR IT LOOKS AT ONGOING OR WHATEVER, BUT THIS NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY 
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ITEM AND IT IS A PRIORITY JUST SO I WANT YOU GUYS TO ALL BE AWARE OF THAT. 
          IT REALLY IS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ALONG WITH THAT, SINCE WE'RE PRIORITIZING DIVERSITY, I ALSO WOULD ASK THAT WE, UM, THAT THE CITY RESEARCH AVENUES FOR RECRUITING DIVERSE APPLICANTS, BECAUSE THERE LOTS OF, OR I DON'T KNOW LOTS, BUT THERE'S QUITE A FEW MINORITY ORGANIZATIONS FOR POLICE, FOR FIREFIGHTERS, FOR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF. 
          DO WE ADVERTISE OUR POSITIONS WITH THOSE GROUPS? DO WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE? AGAIN, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING ALL OF THEM. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, UM, BECAUSE WAS THE FIRE CHIEF POSITION POSTED ON THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN FIRE FIGHTERS? WAS THAT POSTED THERE? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. 
          WHEN DOES THAT POSITION CLOSE? CAN WE POST THAT? UM, I BELIEVE HE HAD A CLOSED DATE OF NOVEMBER 13TH. 
          SO CAN WE GET THAT POSTED ON THAT SITE? I WILL CERTAINLY ASK AS WELL AS THE, UM, YOU NEVER KNOW THE FIRE FIGHTER POSITIONS AS WELL. 
          SO DO WE NEED A MOTION? I THINK WE DO. 
          CAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT. 
          UM, SO WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          SO WE MAY NEED A MOTION, UM, YOLANDA TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE THINGS GET RECORDED IN THE NOTES AND THE VOTE RECORDED AS WELL IN THE MINUTES. 
          WELL, LET ME SAY THIS, I GUESS I DON'T KNOW THAT A MOTION'S REQUIRED. 
          THESE ARE ALL ACTION ITEMS. I THINK IF THEY'RE ACTION ITEMS, WHICH IS DEFINITELY A PRIVILEGE TO BE ASKED TIME, THEY DEFINITELY DID ACTUALLY IN THE MEDICS. 
          RIGHT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF EMOTIONAL NEEDS TO BE MADE, BUT AT LEAST CAPTURE EACH ONE OF THOSE REQUESTS TO ACTION ITEMS AND THEY BE INCLUDED IN THE MINUTES. 
          RIGHT. 
          THEY DEFINITELY EAT THE QUARTER. 
          I AGREE THAT FIVES DON'T KNOW IT FOR EMOTIONS TO MAKE IT. 
          SO YEAH. 
          WELL I THINK THE MOTION WOULD BE THAT THE REQUEST BE MADE THAT THE INITIAL PROCESS BE MADE TO LOOK AT BENCHMARKING OF OTHER CITIES AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING AROUND DIVERSITY RECRUITMENT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          UM, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD THINK THE MOTION WOULD BE. 
          YOU KNOW, NOT THAT WE CAN DO ANYTHING TODAY OR TOMORROW, BUT THAT THE PROCESS HAS STARTED. 
          UM, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD THINK THE MOTION WOULD BE. 
          AND I'M FINE WITH MAKING THAT MOTION USED TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE PROCESS WOULD BEGIN TO BENCHMARK OTHER CITIES TO SEE, UH, WHAT INITIATIVES THEY ARE TAKING AROUND THE AREA OF DIVERSITY RECRUITMENT AS WELL AS TARGETED DIVERSITY RECRUITMENT. 
          SO DO I NEED TO RESTATE THE MOST THREE DIFFERENT TARGET AREAS? WHERE WERE THOSE THREE BENCHMARK, THE CITIES POSTING IN THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN SITES AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? KATIE KATIE'S AREN'T MINUTE TAKER. 
          SO I'LL TAKE, I'LL TAKE THE FIRST ONE. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT, UM, HUMAN RESOURCES BEGAN THE PROCESS OF BENCHMARKING OTHER SURROUNDING CITIES TO SEE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING AROUND THE TOPIC OF DIVERSITY RECRUITMENT, 
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MADAM CHAIR. 
          I SECOND THAT MOTION IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE BENCHMARK CITIES OR THAT HUMAN RESOURCES WOULD BENCHMARK CITIES ANY OPPOSED? I HAVE ONE, UNREADINESS NOT AN OPPOSITION. 
          OKAY. 
          IT, IT, IT CENTERS AROUND UNDERSTANDING AND KNOWING WHERE, WHERE THE CITY IS AS FAR AS IT'S. 
          UM, AND I, AND I'M TRYING TO DEMOGRAPHICS ON, ON WHAT THE, THE, THE, THE EMPLOYMENT LEVELS LOOK LIKE FOR DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC GROUPS IN THE CITY. 
          CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. 
          UM, AND WE'RE ASKING AS SOON AS LIKE, WE'RE ASKING FOR ACTION TO BE TAKEN ON AN UNKNOWN, IF WE DON'T KNOW IF OUR CITIES, EMPLOYEES MIRROR THAT OF ITS POPULATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S THAT'S, AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, KATIE MIGHT HAVE THAT INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT EMPLOYMENT LOOK LIKE NOW? UM, BEFORE WE STARTED GOING TO EMULATE OTHER CITIES, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT IF OR NOT MAKE SURE, BUT LET'S SEE IF THAT, IF IT, IF IS, UH, AN IMBALANCE IN, IN, IN WHERE THE CITY STAFFING LEVELS ARE, AS IT RELATES TO MINORITIES. 
          SO HOW MANY AFRICAN-AMERICANS ARE, HOW MANY HISPANICS WORK, HOW MANY ASIANS DO WE HAVE OR, OR MEN, OR DO WE HAVE, IS AS IT RELATES TO WHAT OUR POPULATION LOOKS LIKE, DOES THAT MAKES SENSE? I'M NOT EXTRA STUFF IN THERE, BUT YEAH. 
          BEFORE WE START ASKING WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HUBER HEIGHTS IS DOING, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR POPULATION OF EMPLOYEES LOOK LIKE RELATED TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE. 
          IT DOES MAKE SENSE, BUT IN MY MIND IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE AN INITIATIVE. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          WELL, I AGREE. 
          I THINK IT SHOULD BE AN INITIATIVE, BUT I GUESS I I'M AFRAID BECAUSE HOW, IF WE WANT TO CHANGE OR IMPLEMENT SOMETHING, I THINK I NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT IS. 
          I'M CHANGING FIRST. 
          SO DO I THINK MORE OF THE TRUE QUESTION IS, OR MORE OF THE ASS FROM THE CITY, IS THAT, IS THERE A POLICY THAT GOES AFTER RECRUITING MINORITIES? THAT'S THE QUESTION? SO IT NEEDS TO BE YES OR NO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF THE ANSWER IS NO, THEN, OKAY, LET'S GO AFTER FINDING OUT WHAT POLICY WE WANT TO HAVE. 
          AND JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY, KATIE, I GUESS MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THERE IS NO PROCESS SET FOR TARGETING MINORITIES, MINORITY CANDIDATES. 
          WHEN YOU SPEAK TO A SPECIFIC PROCESS WRITTEN IN INK, IT DOES NOT MEAN FOR IT TO, IT DOES NOT REFER TO RECRUITING MINORITIES, BUT YOU WILL BE AWARE. 
          WE ALSO HAVE THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY THAT WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT THAT. 
          AND WE'RE ALWAYS ENCOURAGING WOMEN AND MINORITIES TO APPLY. 
          AND WE TRACK THE NUMBER OF WOMEN AND MINORITY CANDIDATES WHO DO APPLY. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE HAVE THE APPLICATIONS WHEN WE'VE DISCUSSED, SENDING OUT A VOLUNTARY SHEET WITH THAT. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. 
          UM, WE CAPTURE IT ONCE THEY'RE HIRED. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SENDING IT WITH THE APPLICATION. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE PROBABLY WILL BE ADDING, SORRY, KATIE, WOULD THOSE DEMOGRAPHICS BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO RELEASE TO THE COMMISSION, UM, THAT WOULD REFLECT CURRENTLY THOSE STAFF MEMBERS THAT THE CITY HAS? UM, HOW MANY OF THEM FIT INTO THE CATEGORY OF MINORITY EMPLOYEES? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD PROVIDE TO THE COMMISSION? YES, WE COULD GET WOMEN AND MINORITIES. 
          OKAY. 
          DOES YOUR MOTION? YES. 
          I'M SO RHONDA, WELL, I THINK IT'S A BOTH AND I MEAN, I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE CITY IS DOING. 
          UM, BUT I ALSO AGREE THAT, UM, AS A MINORITY, I I'M GOING TO SPEAK AND I'M VERY TRANSPARENT. 
          I DON'T SEE PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME THAT ARE A PART OF THE CITY STAFF. 
          WHEN I GO INTO THE CITY BUILDING, I DON'T SEE PEOPLE THAT REFLECT WHO I AM. 
          UM, AND SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, 
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YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL KINDS OF THINGS, BUT IN A VERY REALISTIC FASHION, WHEN I WALK INTO THE CITY BUILDING AND I'VE BEEN INTO THE CITY BUILDING, PLENTY OF TIMES, I DON'T SEE PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME WHEN I'M OUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE PARKS. 
          I DON'T SEE PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME THAT ARE WORKING ON THE ROADS THAT ARE WORKING IN THE PARTS. 
          SO THAT'S VERY REAL TO ME AS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE JUST, THE REQUEST STILL STANDS. 
          WE'VE MADE THE MOTION AND I BELIEVE THAT WE STILL CAN FOCUS ON LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING. 
          UM, ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF DIVERSITY, RECRUITMENT INITIATIVES AND POSTING OF JOBS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO THAT? NO. 
          OTHERS. 
          OKAY. 
          TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES. 
          I SHARED WITH THE COMMISSION, UH, KATIE SENT TO US SUNSHINE LAW TRAINING THAT'S COMING UP. 
          SO EVERYONE SHOULD EVER RECEIVE THAT SO THAT YOU CAN REGISTER FOR THAT WEBINAR. 
          WE CAN READ THEM. 
          I DON'T THINK WE DID. 
          WE DID. 
          WE ASKED HER WHAT WAS THE LAST THING I DID FOR THE BOAT, OR YOU ASKED FOR, YOU KNOW, I GUESS YOU REALLY CAUGHT THE BOAT. 
          IT WASN'T QUESTIONS, BUT SO WE NEED TO RIGHT. 
          WE MAYBE SEE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, THOSE MADE DR. 
          AKINS JUST HAD AN UNEASINESS, RIGHT. 
          SO KATIE CAN CALL THE ROLE. 
          AND I MEAN, YOU CAN RECORD, UH, YES, AS A NOSE OR EYES AND OPPOSE. 
          WELL, WE CAN USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE FOR EVERYBODY, NOT HAVE RAISED THEIR HAND, RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          I HAVE TO SAY NE I FEEL LIKE THERE SHOULD BE MORE RESEARCH DONE ON DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT THAT SHOULD BE AN HR, UH, SOURCED, UM, PROJECT, OR IF WE SHOULD CONSIDER OUTSOURCING THAT TYPE OF BENCHMARKING. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE CAPACITY THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS ITSELF OR FOR KATIE TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT ON HER PLATE AND TAKE ON. 
          OR IF THAT SPECIFIC ACTION THAT WE'RE REQUESTING FROM THE DEPARTMENT CAN BE OUTSOURCED FOR THAT'D BE RECOMMENDATION OR AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          SO I'M SAYING NO, JUST FOR THE POSSIBILITY TO LOOK INTO AN, ANOTHER ENTITY LOOKING INTO THAT. 
          IF KATIE, IF KATIE DOESN'T HAVE THE, UH, THE BANDWIDTH TO PERFORM THAT. 
          UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S MOTION, BUT TO PUT HR IN THAT POSITION OR DIRECT THAT RECOMMENDATION DIRECTLY TO HR, I'M JUST SAYING, NO, I'M NOT RAISING MY HAND TO VOTE. 
          I'M RAISING MY HAND TO SPEAK. 
          I, I AGREE WITH, UM, ESTEBAN UPON ON THAT, UM, THIS IS A BIG PROJECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          AND I THINK, UM, IT IS, IT PUT A LOT ON OUR CITY STAFF. 
          UM, WE DID THIS SIMILAR TO WORK. 
          WE ACTUALLY HIRED AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT. 
          THAT'S A DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, UH, SPECIALISTS THAT THAT'S THERE, YOU KNOW, TO COME IN AND PUT IN A PLAN FOR US AND PUT IN A WORKABLE PROGRAM AND, AND ALL THAT FOR US. 
          SO IS THIS SOMETHING THAT, UM, PERHAPS WE CAN EXPLORE WITH THE CITY IS BRINGING IN AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT TO SEE, WELL, FIRST THAT'S LIKE, LIKE WE DO NEED TO HAVE AN INITIATIVE AND I NEED TO HAVE A PLAN. 
          UM, BUT LIKE YOU SAID, LET'S GET THAT NUMBERS. 
          WE CAN GET SOME AND HEAL AND THAT CONSULTANT ALSO GETS THOSE NUMBERS FOR YOU AND GETS IT. 
          CAUSE OUR CONSULTANT DID THAT. 
          THEY DID ALL THE LEG WORK, ALL THE STATS, ALL THE LIKE WORK FOR US AND GAVE US THE BASIC AND THEN GAVE US A PLAN, AN IDEA AND SUGGESTIONS. 
          SO NOW WE HAVE THIS REPORT THAT WE CAN USE AND WE'RE CHANGING OUR, OUR DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION POLICIES AND PROGRAMS AND ALL THAT TO THIS, TO WHAT THE CONSULTANTS SUGGESTED. 
          SO IS THIS SOMETHING THAT, UM, IS A POSSIBILITY KATIE, THAT THE CITY CAN LOOK AT DOING? UM, WELL YOU WOULD HAVE 
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TO SPECIFICALLY, I WOULD ASSUME YOU'D HAVE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCILS SINCE YOU ACTUALLY WOULD REPORT THAT TO COUNCIL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE WOULD DO LIKE A, UM, YEAH, SO WE DO A MOTION FOR COUNCIL BECAUSE I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, I WANT TO DO THIS, RIGHT. 
          I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND SAY, OKAY, WE CHANGED THIS UP. 
          AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE EXPERTISE IN BETTER INTO THIS FIELD AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS DONE PROPERLY AND DONE THE RIGHT WAY. 
          I THINK JUST TO BE CLEAR, MY INITIAL ASK WAS THAT KATIE JUST LOOKED AT OTHER LOCAL CITIES TO BENCHMARK, YOU KNOW, SOME OF WHAT, WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES DOING? AND THERE ARE LINKAGES BETWEEN AMONGST THE CITIES WHERE HR SHARES, WHAT THEY'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, AND I JUST SEND THE DATE AND THE AREA, BUT THERE'S ASSOCIATIONS, HR ASSOCIATIONS ACROSS THE BOARD THAT SHE COULD LOOK AT. 
          SO I'M NOT LOOKING AT KATIE TO DEVELOP AN ENTIRE PLAN FOR THAT. 
          BUT I DO THINK THAT IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR HR TO LOOK AT WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE IMPLEMENTING, WHAT TYPES OF THINGS ARE THEY DOING? WHAT'S WORKING FOR THEM, BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK. 
          AND THEN WE COULD FORMULATE A PLAN AS TO HOW WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND THEN MAYBE AT THAT POINT, LOOK AT BRINGING IN A CONSULTANT TO DEVELOP A PLAN. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW I'M JUST LOOKING AT BENCHMARKING, WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES DOING? THAT'S IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, SO, SO, SO THAT'S WHAT THE EMOTION IS, RIGHT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF WE ADDED ON THIS, RIGHT. 
          A LOT OF DISCUSSING, MAYBE THIS CONFUSING, RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE I MEAN, IT'S CLICKING, YOU KNOW, WE WANT HER TO PUT TOGETHER A PLAN AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, RIGHT. 
          I THINK THE MOTION THAT THAT'S PUT ON THE TABLE WAS TO AT LEAST, LIKE I SAID, GATHER INFORMATION FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS, OTHER CITIES, IF YOU WILL, UM, WHAT THEY'RE DOING AS RELATES TO DIVERSITY. 
          RIGHT. 
          I THINK MY, MY THING WAS THAT THE CONSULTANT CAN DO THAT, CAN DO THAT. 
          THEY HAVE THE SKILLS TO DO THAT, TO DO THAT LEGWORK, THAT, THAT, LIKE, THAT'S WHY YOU WOULD PAY THAT CONSULTANT TO DO ALL THIS LEG WORK, BRING IN THAT INFORMATION, DO THE RESEARCH AND BRING THAT TO THE CITY MANAGER, TO THE COMMISSION, TO ALL THAT. 
          SO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT THE CONSULTANT DID FOR US. 
          WE DIDN'T DO THE LEG WORK. 
          THEY DID THE LEG WORK. 
          HE, HE WENT OUT AND DID THE RESEARCH, INTERVIEWED PEOPLE, INTERVIEWED OTHER, LOOKED AT OTHER COLLEGE PROGRAMS THAT SIMILAR TO OUR UNIVERSITY, HE DID ALL THAT LEG WORK, WHICH IS A LOT OF WORK. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I WAS THINKING TO HELP AT THE CITY. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET LOOKS LIKE OR WHATEVER WE CAN GET THIS PASSED. 
          IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING PASSED TO HAVE, UM, GOOD SALT AND TO COME IN RIGHT OFF THE BAT, THAT CONSULTANT, BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING THEM TO DO THIS, THAT CONSULTANT CAN DO A VERY THOROUGH JOB OF GETTING ALL THAT LEGWORK, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THEIR ONLY THING THEY'RE DOING FOR US. 
          THEY'RE NOT RUNNING THE HR OF A CITY OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER OTHER DUTIES. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? BUT WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET FOR THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE, UM, WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THAT BECAUSE IF WE RECOMMEND THAT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL IS NOT WILLING TO OKAY. 
          BASED UPON THE COST. 
          SO I THINK WHAT YOUR LAMBDA IS ASKING FOR IS SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE. 
          AND I DON'T WANT US TO MAKE IT BIGGER THAN, THAN WHAT IT IS. 
          I THINK SHE'S ASKING FOR A BENCHMARK, THE CITY COULD LOOK AT TROTWOOD, THEY CAN LOOK AT VANDALIA, THEY COULD LOOK AT ENGLAND, THEY CAN LOOK AT DAYTON. 
          THAT'S A SIMPLE THING. 
          IT DOESN'T REQUIRE A CONSULTANT TO DO THAT. 
          AS WE LOOK AT MOVING FORWARD, AS WE LOOK AT A PLAN AND AS WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, RESOLUTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, MAYBE WE WOULD NEED A CONSULTANT, BUT AN INITIAL, I LOOK AT TWO, YOU KNOW, CONTINUOUS CITIES THAT COULD BE DONE RELATIVELY QUICKLY. 
          IT'S A MATTER OF LOOKING AT THE WEBSITE, LOOKING AT THEIR HIRING PRACTICES. 
          I MEAN, MOST OF THAT STUFF IS POSTED. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A BIG ASS. 
          UM, AND, AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT, WE NEED THE BUY-IN. 
          WE NEED THE BUY-IN, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT AT SOME OF THESE HIGHER LEVELS THAT THE BUY-IN IS THERE. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT WHERE COMMISSION, AND WE CAN DO ALL KINDS OF WORK, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE BUY-IN AT THE CITY LEVEL IS FOR NOT. 
          SO WE NEED, WE NEED THAT BUY-IN RIGHT. 
          SO I GUESS AS WE TALK THROUGH THIS, THOUGH, RIGHT AT 80, AND MAYBE SOMEWHAT AS TO FIND 
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POINT, WELL, LET ME ASSIST THEM. 
          IS IT APPROPRIATE? YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, RIGHT? CAN WE MAKE A MOTION TO, IN THIS CASE MAYBE DIRECT OR, YOU KNOW, HAVE TERROR, I MEAN, HAVE, UH, KATIE, RIGHT. 
          WHICH IS, SHE'S NOT A PART OF THE COMMISSION. 
          CAN WE, CAN WE ACTUALLY MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE HER GO DO SOMETHING TO DIRECT HER, TO GO DO SOMETHING RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, CAUSE I'M THINKING ABOUT A MOTION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOST OF THE THINGS ABOUT THINGS THAT WE CAN, THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE CONTROL OVER THINGS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR COMMISSION, THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DECIDE UPON. 
          I DON'T KNOW, IS IT APPROPRIATE OR CAN WE DO THAT TO MAKE A MOTION TO SAY, HEY, WE WANT YOU TO COMMIT, UH, WE WANT YOU TO GET KATIE TO GO, UH, GATHER THIS INFORMATION, RIGHT. 
          UM, I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD HERE, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S INFORMATION THAT WE WANT. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT'S DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE START GETTING TO SOME OF THE COMMITTEE REPORTS, RIGHT. 
          THERE'S THERE'S INFORMATION THAT I'VE PUT THERE THERE'S DATA THAT THE REFORM COMMITTEE HAS PUT TOGETHER THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'RE ASKING, UH, ROB TO PROVIDE TO US RIGHT NOW. 
          WE DIDN'T PUT IT IN THE FORM OF EMOTION, JUST INFORMATION THAT WE'D LIKE TO GATHER SO THAT WE KNOW HOW TO FOCUS OUR EFFORTS. 
          RIGHT. 
          I'M JUST, I GUESS I'M JUST QUESTIONING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS INFORMATION THAT WE NEED. 
          I RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S AN AXON WE TO GIVE TO THE CITY TO GO GIVE US THIS INFORMATION, BUT IS PUTTING THIS IN A FORM OF EMOTION APPROPRIATE, I GUESS, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M ASKING. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IT'S NECESSARY OR REQUIRED. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          I JUST WANT TO ADD TO WHAT ERIC HAS SAID. 
          THERE APPEARS TO BE A LOT OF CONFUSION RIGHT NOW. 
          WE NEED TO BE CLEAR AS TO WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING OF KATIE. 
          I AGREE NOW THAT WE'RE TALKING MORE ABOUT THIS WITH STEFAN AND META ARTS, PUTTING IT ALL ON HER, BUT AS PART OF THE BENCHMARKING RESEARCH THAT KATIE LIPPY DOING, IF THAT'S A FOUL DECISION OF THE COMMISSION, SHE MAY FIND OUT THAT OTHER CITIES MAY ALREADY HAVE A CONSULTANT IN PLACE THAT DOES THESE TYPES OF ACTIONS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO CONFIRM. 
          SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE CLEAR AS TO WHAT WE NEED TO, UM, TAKE PLACE. 
          THERE'S SOME PATIENT RIGHT NOW. 
          I THINK THAT AS MO, AS RONDA'S MOTION STATED, HER MOTION WAS TO BENCHMARK. 
          SO BENCHMARKING IS JUST GATHERING INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT ORGANIZATIONS, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS CASE CITIES ARE DOING, THAT'S IT AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? SO BASICALLY ALL THAT WE'RE ASKING OR KATIE KNEW IS AS GATHER SOME INFORMATION TO REPORT BACK TO US, CORRECT? YEAH. 
          WHAT IS IT, WHAT IS HR? I MEAN, AND I WOULD THINK THAT THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT KATIE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HERSELF AS WELL. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE OTHER HR DEPARTMENTS DOING? THAT'S WHAT, I DON'T KNOW. 
          THAT'S WHAT HR COLLEAGUES DO. 
          WE LOOK AT, WHAT'S WORKING IN OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WHAT'S WORKING IN OTHER CITIES. 
          WHAT CAN WE IMPLEMENT IN OUR CITY TO DIVERSIFY OUR WORKFORCE? SINCE IT'S AN INITIATIVE? THAT SHOULD BE A QUESTION THAT THE CITY IS ASKING TARA, YOU'RE WAVING YOUR HAND, GO AHEAD HOLDING MY PEN. 
          I'M HONESTLY. 
          SO THAT SHOULD BE A QUESTION THAT THE CITY IS ASKING TO BE HONEST, HONEST WORK, ROB. 
          SHOMER HOW WE HAVE PHRASED OUR OTHER REQUESTS. 
          LIKE HOW I PUT IN THE REQUEST FOR THE PROCESS FOR RIBBON CUTTING AND THE REFORM COMMITTEE HAS PUT IN OTHER REQUESTS FOR DIFFERENT PROCESSES. 
          INSTEAD OF PUTTING THE ONENESS ON KATIE WHO IS SERVING AS OUR LIAISON AND OUR, YOU KNOW, VERY GRACIOUS SECRETARY AT THIS MOMENT. 
          I WONDER IF IT'S BEST TO PUT THIS BACK ON ROB AND HAVE HIM SIGN SOMEONE FROM HIS STAFF VERSUS US ASSIGNING DUTIES THAT MAY BE OUTSIDE OF HER PURE VIEW FOR WHAT HER ASSIGNMENT IS FOR US. 
          I JUST DON'T WANT TO STEP ON ANYBODY'S TOES. 
          THE ONLY REASON THAT WE'RE ASKING KATIE TO DO IT IS BECAUSE SHE'S THE HR PERSON AND THE HR FROM AN HR PERSPECTIVE, OUR LIAISON PERSPECTIVE OR CAMILLE OR WHOEVER HR, LET'S JUST SAY HR, WE'RE ASKING FOR, I WOULD NOT PUT THAT, THAT REQUEST BACK ON THE CITY MANAGER FOR HIM TO ASSIGN TO HIS STAFF. 
          YEAH. 
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SHE COULD ASSIGN WHATEVER DESIGNATE SHE WANTED TO. 
          UM, I WOULD THINK, UM, WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO PUT MORE WORK ON KATIE. 
          NO HR IS HR HAS A LOT TO DO, BUT HOW ABOUT SOME, LET ME JUST SAY THIS. 
          HOW ABOUT WE JUST PUT TOGETHER JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, TARA SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER, THIS IS A PART OF THE REFORM COMMITTEE, RIGHT? WE PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF, UM, LET'S SAY, UH, A DATA REQUEST, UH, PACKAGE, IF YOU WILL, BASICALLY INFORMATION THAT WE, THAT WE NEED, THAT WE WANT THE CITY TO GATHER AND PROVIDE TO US. 
          WHY NOT JUST BE CONSISTENT, JUST PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WANT THE CITY TO PROVIDE AND WRITE, SEND IT TO KATIE AND, AND MR. SCHIRMER, YOU KNOW, TO ROB AND SAY, THIS IS THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED. 
          RIGHT. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO PUT THIS IN THE FORM OF EMOTION. 
          WE JUST PUT TOGETHER THE LIST OF, OF, UH, OF ITEMS THAT WE, THAT WE'D LIKE TO GATHER FROM THE CITY AND JUST SUBMIT IT. 
          AND WE WOULD, WE CAN RECORD THAT OBVIOUSLY IN THE MINUTES AND MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL STILL SAY THE SAME THAT WE WANT THE INFORMATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          THEY PUT THIS IN THE FORM OF A MOTION IS WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          UH, JUST TO BE CONSISTENT, RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE I DIDN'T OBVIOUSLY THE OTHER THING THAT I'VE ASKED FOR WE'VE ASKED FOR, RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO COME TO A MEETING TO PUT IN A FORM OF EMOTION. 
          WE JUST SAID, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT. 
          CAN WE PROVIDE IT TO THE CITY? AND WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR RESPONSE NOW. 
          SO I'M JUST SAYING, UM, FOR OUR CONSISTENCY, RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE THIS IS JUST ANOTHER DATA REQUEST. 
          IT'S A DATA REQUEST, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          SO I AGREE WITH THAT, ERIC. 
          SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE LABORED ANY LONGER BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR ABOUT 30 MINUTES NOW. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON FROM THIS. 
          WE ARE GOING TO PUT IN A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION ON THE THREE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED. 
          HOPEFULLY THOSE WILL BE IN, THOSE WILL ALSO BE REFLECTED IN THE MINUTES AS WELL. 
          AND WE WILL DO THAT UNDER THE AUSPICES OF LOOKING AT, UM, DIVERSITY RECRUITMENT AS A REFORM INITIATIVE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO I KNOW WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. 
          THE, UH, IS RONDO WILLING TO, WE SEND HER, UH, MOTIONS AND, AND SUCH SO THAT WE CAN, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH, UH, MAKING THAT REQUEST, UH, OUTSIDE OF MIMOSA, RIGHT OUTSIDE THE MOTION. 
          I MOVE FORWARD WITH MAKING THE DATA REQUEST RIGHT BY S BY PUTTING IT TOGETHER AND SENDING THAT TO THE CITY, TO PROVIDE THOSE DETAILS. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO RESCIND MY MOTION, BUT WHAT I WILL DO IS I WILL ASK, UH, MADAM CHAIR TO ASK KATIE TO CALL A VOTE. 
          UM, AND WE CAN RECORD IT THAT WAY, BUT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE RESCINDING MY MOTION. 
          OKAY, KATIE, WE CAN ALSO POSTPONE THE MOTION IF YOU WANT TO. 
          SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY RESCIND IT, BUT WE CAN POSTPONE IT TO A LATER DATE SO THAT OUR TEAM CAN COLLABORATE AND THINK ABOUT IT AND PONDER ABOUT IT MORE. 
          SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESEND IT. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO KILL IT. 
          YOU CAN, WE CAN POSTPONE IT FOR LATER DISCUSSION AND NO ONE HAS TO TAKES ANY, ANY VOTES. 
          AND, UH, WE, WE CAN BE A LITTLE MORE, MORE COMFORTABLE WITH DOING THAT. 
          AND I WILL DO THAT. 
          I'M PREPARED TO DO THAT SORT OF, IT HAS TO BE A MOTION TO CORRECT. 
          I AGREE. 
          SO DO I NEED TO MAKE THE MOTION TO TABLE? SOMEBODY ELSE HAS TO MAKE THE MOTION. 
          I'D LIKE TO MAKE A POSTPONE, THE POSTPONE, YOUR EMOTION. 
          THIS IS NOT A MOTION TO BE MADE. 
          WHY ARE WE POSTPONING THE MOTION? WELL, BECAUSE I PUT THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND WE DIDN'T CALL A VOTE. 
          WAS THERE A SECOND? THERE WAS NO SECOND. 
          I DON'T, WELL, THERE WAS A SECOND. 
          WE HAD A SALE AND THEN HANDS CAME DOWN. 
          SO, SO GUYS, TECHNICALLY, WHEN WE BRING SOMETHING TO THE TABLE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT, WE SHOULD ALWAYS CALL FOR DISCUSSION. 
          ONCE WE HAVE A DISCUSSION, THEN IT SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO VOTE. 
          UM, SO THAT WAY WE KNOW WHAT TOPIC IS ON THE TABLE. 
          WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TOPIC THAT'S ON THE TABLE, AND THEN THERE'S A ROLL CALL. 
          UM, THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD FILL UP. 
          RIGHT? SO WHEN A CALL TO A VOTE, CAN I RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING NOW? WELL, I THINK THE POD PUT MOTIONS TO POSTPONE THE MOTION. 
          I'LL SECOND. 
          NOW, THIRD 
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IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECOND TO POSTPONE THE MOTION, BOY. 
          SO THE MOTION IS PAYABLE TO THE NEXT MEETING. 
          MR. RAMIREZ, MR. UH, MR. AKINS IS NEWBIE. 
          YAY. 
          WAS PROVOST. 
          YEAH. 
          MR. RICHARDSON. 
          YAY. 
          MR. STEVENS. 
          MS. STEVENS. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHTY. 
          OUR NEXT ITEM. 
          I'VE LOST TRACK OF WHERE WE EVEN, UM, MADAM CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MISSION REVIEW, PROCLAMATION RESOLUTION. 
          I THINK THERE'S AN UPDATE OR NO, THE MICHELLE. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          DID YOU COVER YEAH. 
          SUNSHINE LAWS TRAINING. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          YEP. 
          GOTCHA. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND THEN AF MISSION REVIEW. 
          WE ARE, WE DISCUSSED AT OUR LAST MEETING THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT OUR MISSION OR THE CHARTER AND REVAMP THE MISSION. 
          AND I AM GOING TO SET A MEETING FOR THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN DRAFTING A, AN AMENDMENT TO OUR STANDING MISSION. 
          SO IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED WHO WAS INTERESTED IN THE WORK ALL RHONDA? WOW. 
          YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE LEGISLATION, RIGHT? THAT'S THIS WONDERFUL DOCUMENT. 
          THE INITIAL, UM, LEGISLATION PERFORMED THE COMMISSION THAT WAS DEVELOPED, THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY THE CITY MANAGER. 
          AND SO WE NEED TO PUT OUR OWN FLAIR ON IT. 
          SO RHONDA HAS TO FIND, WAS THERE SOMEONE ELSE, TARA, OKAY. 
          I WILL BE IN TOUCH YOU ALL. 
          AND THIS WILL JUST BE A DISCUSSION. 
          SO THIS IS NOT HAVE TO BE ANYTHING IT'S A WORKING COMMITTEE OR WORK. 
          WHAT DO THEY CALL IT? WORKING GROUP. 
          YEAH. 
          SINCE I HAVE TO BE FORMALLY PUBLICIZED. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND I DID ADD PROCLAMATION RESOLUTION. 
          I BELIEVE RHONDA HAD AN UPDATE ON THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE DO HAVE A FINISHED PROCLAMATION. 
          UM, AND I THINK IT'S OKAY FOR ME TO SHARE IT TO EVERYONE IN THE FORM OF A GOOGLE DOC. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I WILL DO RATHER THAN BELABOR IT TONIGHT. 
          UM, JANE NEWBIE, UM, MIA HONAKER AND TARA HARVESTS AND MYSELF WORKED ON THAT DOCUMENT. 
          AND SO I WILL SHARE IT, UM, VIA GOOGLE DOC. 
          I THINK THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE ROB DID SAY WE COULD EXCHANGE DOCUMENTS SO I WILL SHARE IT. 
          AND THEN, UM, YOU ALL CAN LOOK AT IT AND I'LL MAKE EVERYONE AN EDITOR. 
          IF YOU WANT TO MAKE SUGGESTIONS, UM, TO THE DOCUMENT, YOU CAN DO THAT. 
          AND THEN I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH A FINAL DRAFT OF THE DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN VOTE ON FOR DECEMBER'S MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU, WANDA. 
          ALRIGHTY. 
          NEW BUSINESS COMMITTEE REPORTS. 
          WE'LL START WITH ADVOCACY. 
          DOES THAT MEAN, IS THAT BECAUSE WE ADVOCACY STARTS WITH A, IS THAT WHY? YES. 
          I'M DOING AN ALPHABETICAL ORDER. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY FAIR, MAN. 
          TARA, WE LUCKED OUT DIDN'T WE DO Y'ALL WANT TO BREATHE IT CAUSE YOU'VE BEEN TALKING, 
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HUH? YOU WANT ME TO STOP? LET ME START. 
          UM, WHAT'S COMMUNITY IS, UM, IT'S EITHER OUTREACH OR EDUCATION, SO IT'S OUTREACH COMMITTEE. 
          SO THE OUTREACH COMMITTEE, UM, COERCED ME BEING THE CHAIR. 
          UM, JEAN THREATENED ME IN, UH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          NO, SHE DID NOT. 
          I WASN'T A PARTY OF THAT. 
          SO, SO WE DID HAVE OUR MEETING. 
          UM, WE, UH, WE, WE CREATED A DRAFT OF THE MISSION AND PURPOSE OF THE OUTREACH COMMITTEE, UH, THAT WAS SENT OUT ALL OF THE PARTIES. 
          AND I BELIEVE I SAID THAT TO YOU, MADAM CHAIR, UH, WILL ADOPT THIS, THAT OUR NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING. 
          UM, AND WE ENDED UP MOVING THAT, UH, CAUSE ONE OF OUR MEMBERS COULDN'T MAKE IT. 
          SO WE, WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT BEFORE WE, UH, TO FINALIZE AND IT'S CAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT, WHEN YOU HAVE ONE MORE MEETING, UM, WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE MARTIN LUTHER KING EVENT THAT WE, UM, THAT WE MENTIONED OR ALLUDED TO EARLIER. 
          UH, WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THAT AND BRINGING SOME THINGS BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING AS FAR AS PLANS FOR THE JANUARY HOLIDAYS FOR MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY AND WHAT WE PLAN TO DO. 
          AND WE HAVE MINUTES. 
          UM, AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT DO WE DO WITH OUR, AND IT'S FROM OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS. 
          DO YOU WANT THOSE OR DO WE JUST HOLD ONTO THEM? I WOULD LIKE THEM IN THOSE MINUTES. 
          KATIE DOES SMITHS HAVE TO BE POSTED PUBLIC. 
          UM, WE CAN, YEAH. 
          CAUSE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, UM, FOR THE ACTUAL RECORDING OF THE FILE TOO BIG TO SEND OUTS, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM POSTED. 
          WE'LL GET THEM POSTED ON THE WEBSITE SO WE CAN POST YOUR MINUTES TOO. 
          I'M SURE. 
          AND UM, AS SOON AS I GET THOSE MINUTES, I WILL FORWARD THEM TO YOU SO YOU CAN HANDLE THEM APPROPRIATELY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND YOU HAVE A STANDING MEETING PICK THE WEDNESDAY PRIOR TO THE, UH, THE, THIS MEETING. 
          SO IT'D BE THE FIRST WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH WILL BE OUR MEETING DATE. 
          AND THAT'S FOR ADVOCACY. 
          I'M SORRY, YOU'RE SAYING ADVOCACY OUTREACH AS WELL AS EDUCATION. 
          I NOT STEPPING ON SOMEBODY'S TOES THERE, BUT UM, WE GOT THE SAME PEOPLE ON BOTH OF THOSE COMMITTEES MINUS ONE. 
          SO WE'LL JUST DO ON THE FIRST WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU'RE THE, YOU'RE THE CHAIR FOR OUTREACH AND EDUCATION, RIGHT? THAT'S A GOOD SEGUE. 
          YES. 
          MADAM CHAIR. 
          I AM THE CHAIR OF THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE FOR THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY. 
          THAT'S AN ACTION COMMISSION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO GIVE MY BRIEF COMMITTEE REPORT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, GOOD EVENING, NICK AND EVERYBODY. 
          UM, THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE FOR THE CULTURE IN DIVERSITY, SINCE AN ACTION COMMISSION FOR HEBREW HEIGHTS, WE HAD OUR INITIAL MEETING ON OCTOBER 26 AND BRING THAT MEETING. 
          UM, THE OFFICIAL CHAIR WAS APPOINTED, WHICH WAS MYSELF, THANKS TO MR. ATKINS, DR. 
          ATKINS, I SHOULD SAY. 
          AND THAT COMMITTEE CONSISTS OF MYSELF, DR. 
          ATKINS AND MRS. HONAKER DURING THE MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT ESTABLISHING THE INITIAL DRAFT OF IT, THIS COMMITTEE'S PURPOSE AND MISSION. 
          AND THE PURPOSE OF MISSION IS GOING TO FOCUS ON TEACHING DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION TO THE CITY RESIDENTS, A FEW PER HYPED, UM, CITY COUNCIL, EMPLOYEES, AND ALSO COMMISSION AS WELL. 
          AND THE VARIOUS OUTLETS THAT WE DECIDED TO, UM, EXECUTE THE TEACHER PERSPECTIVE IS THROUGH ONLINE PLATFORMS, ONLINE COMMUNITY REESE, AND ALSO HAVING QUARTERLY SEMINARS THAT CAN BE CONDUCTED EITHER VIRTUALLY OR IN PERSON AGAIN IS NOT CONTENTION UPON THE CLIMATE, UH, COPING 19 INTO 2021. 
          AND, AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AS DR. 
          AKINS JUST STATED, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR STAN, YOU MEET HIM FIRST WEDNESDAY OF EVERY MONTH. 
          UM, AT 7:00 PM AND AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH WE HAVE TO POSTPONE TO, I THINK TWO WEEKS IN TWO WEEKS, 
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WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW AND FINALIZE THE INITIAL DRAFT OF THE PURPOSE AND MISSION OF THE COMMITTEE. 
          AND WE'LL BE THERE TO PRESENT THAT AT NEXT MONTH'S COMMISSION MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, MISS NEWBIE CHAIR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WHAT TIME IS THE OUTREACH MEETING? OUTREACHES AT EIGHT. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHTY REFORM. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THE, UH, REFORM COMMITTEE, UH, HELD ITS FIRST MEETING ON OCTOBER 19TH. 
          UH, WE DISCUSSED A FEW ITEMS, OBVIOUSLY THE FIRST DEAN, UH, SELECTING THE CHAIR. 
          AND THEN WHEN WE WENT INTO DISCUSSION ON PROJECTORS G UH, FOR THE COMMITTEE AND THEN A LITTLE BIT ON THE BEATS ASSESSMENT. 
          UM, SO AS FAR AS, UH, THE CHAIR PERSON, I WAS, UH, SELECTED TO BE THE CHAIRPERSON FOR THE, FOR THE REFORM COMMITTEE. 
          UM, AND SO AFTERWARDS WE THEN MOVE INTO, UH, TO OUR DISCUSSION ON KIND OF WHAT ABOUT OBJECTIVES AND GOALS FOR THE, UM, FOR THE REFORM COMMITTEE? SO I WOULD SAY OUR PRIMARY OBJECTIVE THAT WE DISCUSSED WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY AND RECOMMEND POLICY CHANGES TO THE CITY GOVERNMENT, UH, THAT ENSURES FAIR AND EQUAL TREATMENT AND OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL CITIZENS OF HUBER HEIGHTS. 
          AND, UH, WE CAME UP WITH SORT OF THREE FOCUS AREAS, UH, ONE, UH, FIRST ONE BEING FAIR HOUSING AND A FAIR BUSINESS PRACTICES. 
          UH, SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS INCLUDE LIKE HOW, UH, HOW, HOW OUR CONTRACTS AWARDED, UH, WITH A POLICIES AND PROCEDURES TO RECRUITMENT AND HIRING THE CITY EMPLOYEES. 
          UM, WE GOT INTO, UH, THE, THE OTHER, UH, AREA WAS CIVIL RIGHTS. 
          UM, IT'S KIND OF FOCUSED ON, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS KNOW HOW TO FILE COMPLAINTS. 
          UH, WHAT DOES INTERNAL PROCESS FOR REVIEW OF COMPLAINTS AGAINST PUBLIC EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY AND HOW ARE OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TREATED, ASKING TO AND EXERCISING CIVIL RIGHTS. 
          AND THEN, UH, THE LAST BEING THE LAST ONE BEING, UH, SORT OF POLICY IN GENERAL, UH, POLICY AND REFORM WHERE WE WANT TO LOOK AT POLICIES, UM, THAT, UH, RELATED TO TREATMENT AND OPPORTUNITIES, UH, FOR THOSE THAT HUBERT HOOPER HEIGHTS, YOU KNOW, SOME QUESTIONS INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, DOES THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE CITY WORKERS AND THE ADMINISTRATION REFLECT THAT, UH, UH, OF THE COMMUNITY, THAT OF THE CITY, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ADDRESS, UH, DIVERSITY? UM, HOW ARE BUSINESSES, UH, COMING TO CITY TO THE CITY BEING AFFECTED? I'M SORRY. 
          YEAH. 
          HOW ARE THEY BEING TREATED? I GUESS IF YOU WILL, AND LOOK AT POLICIES, YOU KNOW, AS IT RELATES TO THE, TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, LOOKING AT POLICIES AS IT RELATES TO ENFORCEMENT. 
          UM, AND SO, UH, WHAT WE THEN DISCUSSED WAS, WELL, WHERE DO WE WANT TO PLACE OUR INITIAL FOCUS? YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT'S OUR FIRST PRIORITY, YOU KNOW, AS IT RELATES TO THIS, UH, COMMITTEE. 
          AND SO, UH, WE DECIDED TO MAKE POLICE REFORM, UH, BEING THAT INITIAL PRIORITY. 
          AND, UH, SO GIVEN THAT, UH, WE, WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF, UH, OF ITEMS THAT WE'D LIKE TO COLLECT IF YOU WILL, FROM THE CITY OR AT LEAST FROM THE, ACTUALLY FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING AT STATISTICS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, UH, EXISTING POLICIES, UM, WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WE LIKE TO GATHER AND REVIEW, AND WE'LL USE THAT TO HELP US, UM, DETERMINE WHERE TO DIRECT MOST OF OUR ENERGY, UH, AS, UH, AS IT RELATES TO MAKING CERTAIN CHANGES. 
          UM, SO WHEN I SENT THAT, THAT LIST TO, UH, ROB ON MONDAY AND, UH, I THINK HE WAS, HE RESPONDED BACK TODAY SAYING HE SHOULD, HE'S GONNA, HE'S GONNA WORK ON THAT AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET BACK TO US WITHIN THE NEXT, I THINK NEXT WEEK OR TWO, I THINK, UM, IS WHAT HE MENTIONED, I BELIEVE SO, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT, UM, AS WELL AS THAT'S WHERE WE STAND OR THE, UH, UH, ON THE REFORM COMMITTEE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE REQUEST THAT YOU MADE, WAS IT ALL BASED ON, UH, POLICE INFORMATION? YEAH, I CAN GO THROUGH IF YOU WANT ME DISCUSS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE KEEP INCLUDED ON THE 
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LIST. 
          UH, WELL, ONE ACTUALLY WASN'T NECESSARILY POLICE RELATED. 
          WE ASKED FOR WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHIC BREAKDOWN OF THE RESIDENTS IN HUBER HEIGHTS, UM, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS, OR AT LEAST SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE REQUESTED INCLUDED LIKE A USE OF FORCE POLICY. 
          UM, WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT, UM, ALSO A COPY OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, LOTS OF WOMEN LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, HIRING RECRUITING POLICIES FOR NEW NEW OFFICERS, AS WELL AS OFFICERS THAT ARE TRANSFERRED INTO THE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THEN WHAT DOES THAT MAKE UP LOOK LIKE? YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS IT, WHAT IS THE DEMOCRATIC DEMOGRAPHIC BREAK BREAK DOWN OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING TO EDUCATE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO ED TRAINING AND EDUCATION, WHAT ARE THEIR POLICIES AND WHAT TRAINING DO THEY ACTUALLY TAKE ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT A DISCIPLINE IS, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS, UH, THAT OFFICERS RECEIVE? UM, WHAT'S THE POLICY ON THAT IF YOU WILL, UH, AND THEN LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, STATISTICS ON LIKE NUMBER OF ARREST IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMMUNITY BASED ON, YOU KNOW, BASED ON RACE, IF YOU WILL, POLICE SHOOTINGS, UH, COMPLAINTS, THINGS OF THAT MADE SURE POLICE STOPPED. 
          SO AGAIN, IT'S JUST, AGAIN, A LIST OF, OF COMP. 
          I THINK WE BELIEVE A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF THINGS THAT, UH, THINGS WE LIKE TO COLLECT TO KIND OF HELP US, UH, IN OUR EFFORTS TO, UM, RETURN WHERE W W YOU KNOW, WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN CHANGES WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IF YOU WILL, AS IT RELATES TO POLICY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT CLARIFIES JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS NO OVERLAP IN WHAT, UM, I MAY REQUEST FROM A RECRUITMENT STANDPOINT. 
          SO THANKS FOR GOING THROUGH THAT LIST. 
          ERIC, DON'T WE HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE ON THE HIRING TOO, THOUGH. 
          CAUSE THAT'S A, THAT'S A QUESTION FOR US AS WELL. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, RIGHT. 
          AS FOR THE POLICE LOOKING AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THOUGH, YOLANDA YOU, THE POLICE OFFICERS REPRESENT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF OUR CITY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I THINK WHEN WE, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT REFORM, AT LEAST WHEN WE HAD OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT IT MAYBE LAST MONTH OR SO, UH, THE REFORM WAS TO CAPTURE, UH, ALSO HIRING POLICY, NOT JUST AS RELATES TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT AS RELATES TO ANY OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, BUT AGAIN, OUR INITIAL FOCUS WAS GOING TO BE ON THE POLICE ON THE, ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IF YOU WILL. 
          BUT, BUT AGAIN, IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, RIGHT. 
          THERE'S DATA THAT YOU, YOU STILL WANT TO REQUEST, UH, THAT OBVIOUSLY STILL SUPPORTS THE REFUND COMMITTEE THEN. 
          YEAH. 
          BY ALL MEANS. 
          I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S OBVIOUSLY FAIR GAME TO, TO, TO, TO DO THAT. 
          YOU MAKE SURE THAT AGAIN, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT DUPLICATING EFFORTS IF YOU WILL ALSO. 
          UM, BUT YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL WORK WITH YOU ON THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SPECIFIC QUESTION WE ASKED WAS WHAT IS THE HIRING RECRUITMENT RECRUITING POLICY FOR NEW IN TRANSFERRING OFFICERS AND DOES IT ADDRESS DIVERSITY? SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S GOING TO OVERLAP NECESSARILY WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GAUGE OF CITY EMPLOYEES PER SE. 
          SO I THINK THE REFORM COMMITTEE WAS SPECIFIC ENOUGH THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE TOO OVERLAPPING. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          ADVOCACY TARA. 
          SO, UM, WE'VE JUST AMENDED TO CHANGE. 
          UM, WE WERE GOING TO CO-CHAIR. 
          UM, BUT NOW THAT THERE'S THREE, UM, I WILL CHAIR A ADVOCACY COMMITTEE. 
          SO WE, I WAS NOT ACTUALLY, I WAS WAITING FOR RON TO, TO CATCH HER BREATH AND THEN SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE OVER. 
          UM, WE DID, UM, WE ARE GOING TO TABLE FOR OUR NEXT MEETING OR NOT TABLE. 
          WE WORKED ON OUR MISSION AND OUR PURPOSE STATEMENT, BUT WE'RE STILL IN DRAFT. 
          UM, SO WE WILL FINALIZE THAT. 
          WE MET A LITTLE STEPS TOGETHER JUST QUICKLY 
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TELL HER 15, SORRY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE MET OCTOBER 15TH. 
          UM, AND WE DO HAVE OTHER MEETINGS, OUR NEXT MEETING SCHEDULED AS WELL. 
          UM, WE HAVE NOT SENT THAT NOTICE YET, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO NEXT MEETING, UM, THE 12TH AT 6:00 PM. 
          AND THEN FOR OUR FOCUS AREAS, WE HAVE LOOKED AT, UM, PUBLIC HEALTH AND ACCESS TO ADEQUATE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL REGARDLESS OF PAYER ACCESS AND NEEDS FOR, UM, TO SUPPORT PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND, UM, YOUTH IN THE AREA, YOU KNOW, OFTEN, UH, PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEMS BECOME STOP GAPS FOR SOCIAL SERVICE NEEDS, BE IT, YOU KNOW, WEEKEND FOOD NEEDS OR WHATEVER. 
          SO WE'RE REALLY GOING TO SEE, UM, KIND OF WORK WITH THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN THE AREA IN TANDEM AND SEE WHAT NEEDS NEED TO BE IDENTIFIED TO HELP SUPPORT OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND THE CHILDREN IN THERE. 
          AND THEN OUR THIRD WAS, UM, LOOKING AT RHONDA HELPED ME WITH, WHAT WOULD THAT THIRD ONE WAS THE THIRD ONE WAS THEIR BUSINESS PRACTICES. 
          WHAT WAS IT? IT WAS WELL ON OUR MINUTES. 
          IT SAYS FAIR HOUSING. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WITH THAT, IT'S JUST BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT, UM, WE'RE GIVING THE SAME ACCESS TO QUALITY AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO ALL RESIDENTS, UM, THAT THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE RENTERS THAT MAY BE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO OWN HOMES, UM, THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO QUALIFY TO OWN A HOME. 
          UM, AND THAT ALSO, UM, UM, THERE ARE NOT ANY, THERE'S NO STEERING IN TERMS OF STEERING PEOPLE TO CERTAIN HOUSING NEIGHBORHOODS OR TO CERTAIN ZONES, UM, BASED UPON, UM, ANY PARTICULAR DEMOGRAPHICS THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME TO HUBER, UM, THEY CAN LIVE WHEREVER THEY CAN AFFORD TO LIVE. 
          AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RENTAL RATES, UM, ARE, UM, AVERAGE NATIONAL STANDARD RATES. 
          AND THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE MILITARY IS CLOSE TO US AND WE HAVE A LOT OF MILITARY HOUSING, BUT DOES THAT MEAN THAT HOUSING IS INACCESSIBLE TO SOME MINORITIES, MINORITY GROUPS THAT MAY COME TO OUR COMMUNITY? SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVEN IF, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE IS A RENTER, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO QUALITY HOUSING. 
          UM, JUST THE SAME AS SOMEONE WHO MAY BE ABLE TO OWN A HOME. 
          AND IN SAYING THAT WE WERE ALSO LOOKING AT THE QUALITY OF THE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, IS IT UP TO STANDARD? ARE WE HAVING LARGER ISSUES IN WITH ONE, YOU KNOW, GROUP VERSUS NOT GROUP, BUT RENTALS OR, YOU KNOW, ARE WE HAVING ISSUES WITH THE YELLOW SIGNS? AND, YOU KNOW, SO IS THE UPKEEP THE SAME IS EVERYONE AT ONE SIDE OF THE LINE VERSUS THE OTHER SIDE ALIGNED FAIRLY AND EQUALLY, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO ACCESS TO THESE THINGS AND ARE, ARE THE HOMES THEMSELVES QUALITY AND KEPT UP TO QUALITY STANDARDS FOR ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE DID ALSO MENTION ONE, UH, PROVIDER THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT VERY CLOSELY. 
          UM, AND THAT IS BRIAN BURKE HOMES. 
          SO WE WILL BE LOOKING AT HOW THEY'RE MANAGING PROPERTIES, UM, THEIR RENTAL PROCESSES, THEIR SELECTION PROCESSES, AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY COMMITTEE QUESTIONS, A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT KEEPS GETTING THROWN AROUND? NOT A LOT SPECIFICALLY, UM, WHO'S PAYING FOR THIS, IS IT A WIDE IDEA THAT THIS NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS GOING TO BE 
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TAKING PLACE OR WAS ALREADY IN PLACE? AND WE'RE TRYING TO PIGGYBACK OUR FOCUS IN THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT, OR WAS IT THE IDEA THAT THIS COMMITTEE WAS GOING TO CREATE OUR OWN QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO ANSWER AS A WHOLE? SO THE THOUGHT FOR THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS THAT, SO WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE THE CHAIRS COME TOGETHER AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, BUT IT'S REALLY TO GAUGE WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE THE ISSUES THAT ARE HAVING THAT WE'RE HAVING IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WILL DIRECT SOME OF THE INITIATIVES THAT WE WILL FOCUS ON? I'M THINKING MORE LIKE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE WILL NOT HAVE, WE WILL. 
          MY THOUGHT IS TO HIRE SOMEONE TO DO THAT. 
          NOW THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD HIRE SOMEONE, AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT TO DEVELOP A NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          SO IT WOULD BE, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF JUST A SURVEY. 
          SO WE MAY DO FOCUS GROUPS OR, YOU KNOW, THERE THERE'LL BE SOME DIFFERENT MOVING PIECES TO IT, BUT I WOULD ENGAGE AN EXTERNAL PERSON. 
          BUT I THINK THAT WE, UM, DO WANT TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, OR THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO GATHER FROM A NEEDS ASSESSMENT SO THAT WHEN WE EVEN MEET WITH A CONSULTANT, WE HAVE THOSE IDEAS ALREADY IN OUR HEAD. 
          I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT. 
          I THINK MY SOURCE, I GUESS OF NOT NECESSARILY ANXIETY, BUT I JUST WASN'T SURE WHERE THAT ACTUAL NEEDS ASSESSMENT WAS COMING IN. 
          IF THIS WAS CITY SPONSORED, IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY IN CREATION BEFORE WE CAME TOGETHER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO THAT'S FINE. 
          I JUST, UM, I FEARED THAT WE WOULD GET TANGLED IN IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY STANDING THAT WE WERE TRYING TO ADD IN ON, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, THIS WOULD BE A FREE-STANDING INITIATIVE. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FROM OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE NOT EVER DONE ONE. 
          UM, IS THAT CORRECT, KATIE? UM, PROBABLY NOT SINCE I'M BEEN HERE, I KNOW THEY'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, PARKS AND REC STUFF, UM, IN DIFFERENT SURVEYS, AS FAR AS THAT GOES, LEVIES MUSTANG, I WOULD HAVE DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT NOT DIVERSITY FOCUSED DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION FOCUS WAS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING TO DO. 
          IT'D BE A FREESTANDING. 
          IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD JUST PUT IN A FEW QUESTIONS AND SOMEBODY ELSE'S NEEDS ASSESSMENT BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE MUCH DEEPER THAN THAT. 
          SO, UM, I'M ENVISIONING SOMETHING LIKE, I KNOW THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DID A NEED TO SET. 
          THEY DO NEEDS ASSESSMENTS PERIODICALLY, AND IT'S ON A LARGER SCALE. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ENVISIONING THAT OUR COMMISSION WILL BE ABLE TO DO. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO ROLL INTO FOOD BAZAAR, WHICH IS ADVOCACY TARA, SURELY GOING TO LET RHONDA TAKE THE LEAD ON THAT. 
          SHE DID SUCH AN AMAZING JOB THROWING THAT TOGETHER AND NOT, I MEAN, NOT EVEN THROWING IT TOGETHER, BUT, UM, I DON'T WANT TO NEGATE BY ANY STRETCH OF THE MEANS RONDA'S ROLE IN THAT EVENT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS THE ONE THAT, THAT TRULY HAD PUT A LOT OF THAT. 
          THE MAJORITY OF THAT TOGETHER AND REALLY WAS THE STARTING POINT OF THAT. 
          UM, I THINK I WAS VERY HAPPY. 
          I THINK THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT WAS AMAZING THAT CAME OUT. 
          UM, I THINK WE STRUGGLED AND WE ARE STILL FROM THE ADVOCACY STANDPOINT WORKING ON OUR STRUGGLE POINTS. 
          UM, AND WE ARE GOING TO DO SOME FURTHER RESEARCH AND WE'LL PROBABLY BRING SOME STRUGGLE POINTS BACK TO THE GROUP. 
          UM, PROBABLY MAYBE FOR NEXT MEETING. 
          UM, OVERALL THE BUSINESS IS, YOU KNOW, SO VERY THANKFUL FOR OUR SUPPORT AND, UH, KIND OF OUR, OUR RALLYING BEHIND THEIR STRUGGLES. 
          UM, I THINK IT WILL BE IMPORTANT TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN FIRST YEAR BUSINESS OR SO IN A LOT OF BUSINESSES AREN'T MAKING IT ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT COVID AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS, AND THEN TO SUFFER TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN DAMAGE, YOU KNOW, JUST VERY, VERY UNFORTUNATE. 
          SO AS THE ADVOCACY COMMITTEE, WE CAME TOGETHER, WE RALLIED AND WE WILL 
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CONTINUE TO DO SUCH THINGS. 
          YES. 
          AND THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR . 
          THANK YOU FOR MAKING SURE THAT THAT, UM, CAME TO FRUITION AND THIS IS A MINORITY BUSINESS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE ARE GOING TO BE SUPPORTIVE. 
          UM, AND THEY HAVE BEEN, UH, THEY HAD, WHAT, TWO FIRES, TWO FIRES AND STUFF DROVE A CAR. 
          YES. 
          AND SOMEONE DROVE A CAR IN THEIR FRONT DOOR ALL WITHIN A TWO MONTH TIMEFRAME. 
          UM, AND SO WE JUST, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNIFY AROUND THIS BUSINESS AND SUPPORT THIS BUSINESS AND SEND THE MESSAGE THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THIS TOGETHER AND WE DON'T WANT ANY BUSINESSES. 
          UM, WE DON'T KNOW THAT THEY PARTICULARLY, THAT THEY'RE BEING TARGETED BECAUSE THEY ARE A MINORITY BUSINESS, BUT WE WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE. 
          I WOULD JUST SAY THAT IT'S STILL IT'S UNDER INVESTIGATION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, THAT WAS EVERYTHING UNDER FOCUS ARE THE ONE QUESTION I DID HAVE, UM, AND IN THE FUTURE IS SOMETHING LIKE THIS, GOD FORBID, SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS AGAIN TO A MINORITY BUSINESS. 
          WHAT PROTOCOLS DO WE AS A COMMISSION WANT TO TAKE? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE RALLY BEHIND THEM. 
          UM, BUT IN TERMS OF OUTREACH TO THE POLICE OUTREACH TO THE CITIZEN OR THE VICTIM, UM, OF A SUCH CRIME, UM, AND THEN JUST AS A, I GUESS, A MEASURE FROM OUR COMMISSION, HOW DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS? UM, I THINK THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING WE CAN DISCUSS. 
          UM, BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING IN PLACE SOMEWHERE. 
          UM, EVEN IF IT'S IT'S FOR PURPOSES OF OUR COMMISSION THAT WE KNOW WHEN THESE THINGS HAPPEN, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE DO. 
          THIS IS OUR ASK. 
          YOU MEAN FROM THE CITY I ASKED FROM THE CITY AND THE CITY FROM YEAH. 
          FROM THE POLICE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO KNOW THAT THESE SITUATIONS ARE BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THE VICTIMS OF THESE, THESE CRIMES, THEY WANT TO FEEL LIKE THEIR CONCERNS ARE BEING HEARD. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO I THINK THIS GOES BACK TO THE POINT OF, AS A COMMISSION, WE WANT TO BE THE AVENUE FOR PEOPLE TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS OR VOICE THAT THEY FEEL THAT THEY'RE BEING TARGETED OR TREATED UNFAIRLY. 
          UM, AND AS WE START TO LOOK AT A PROCESS FOR THAT, OF HOW WE WILL IMPLEMENT THAT, HOW WE WILL IMPLEMENT THIS KIND OF SAFE HAVEN FOR OUR COMMUNITY, TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THINGS LIKE THIS WITH THE COMMISSION, THEN WE ALSO ESTABLISH SOME PROTOCOL AROUND THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, RHONDA, BUT WE HAD ALSO ACTUALLY WRITTEN A PROCLAMATION AND FORGOT TO BRING IT OUT DURING THE RALLY BECAUSE OF THE RAIN, OR, YOU KNOW, AFTER, AFTER THE FACT WE BOTH WENT, UH, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NECESSARY OR WHATEVER, BUT IT, I THINK IT'S HELPFUL FOR THE CITY OR FOR US, EVEN AS A COMMISSION TO SIGN THESE PROCLAMATIONS THAT SAY, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO, WE STAND TOGETHER THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THIS IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND THAT, YOU KNOW, COLLECTIVELY AS A WHOLE, WE ARE SUPPORTING ANY BUSINESS THAT WOULD LIKE TO OPEN HERE, UM, RESPECTFULLY, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO ASK FOR THESE PROCLAMATIONS TO BE SIGNED, ACCEPTED, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT COURSE OF ACTION IS TAKEN, BUT WE DID PULL TOGETHER A STRONG PROCLAMATION AGAINST, YOU KNOW, VIOLENCE OR HATE SPEECH OR NOT THAT WE'RE INFERRING ANY OF THAT HAD HAPPENED, BUT IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO TAKE UP THAT CHARGE IN WRITING AS WELL. 
           OKAY. 
          AND I THINK ALSO, UM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED RELATIONSHIP 
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WITH OUR ECONOMIC, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR IN SUPPORT OF THESE BUSINESSES. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WAS OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM. 
          I HAD ACTUALLY MINORITY RECRUITMENT WHEN WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT. 
          SO THAT WAS OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM. 
          OKAY. 
          YOLANDA, I DO WANT TO BRING UP ONE OTHER THING. 
          I PROMISE I'LL BE QUICK, BUT WE DO HAVE A NEW MINORITY. 
          I BELIEVE IT'S MINORITY OWNED, UM, BUSINESS ON BRAND PIPE. 
          UM, AND SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW US A HAIR STORE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HEARD, BUT IT IS A SMALL BUSINESS. 
          AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE MAY BE LOOKING TO DO THROUGH OUR COMMITTEE, THE ADVOCACY COMMITTEE IS DOING A SMALL RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY FOR THIS BUSINESS. 
          UM, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY GET THE SAME ACKNOWLEDGEMENT RECOGNITION THAT A LARGER BUSINESS WOULD DO. 
          AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE THESE MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES AND WELCOME THEM TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO THAT'S IT. 
          THAT'S AWESOME. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER, NO OTHER, OKAY. 
          WELL THEN WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN OUR MEETING AT NINE OR EIGHT. 
          WE DON'T HAVE TO PROMOTION TO AGENDA. 
          WE'RE JUST OUT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD ONE. 
          EVERYBODY HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND. 
          THE WEEKEND.
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