* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] OKAY. IT IS NOW SEVEN O'CLOCK [1. Call The Meeting To Order - Mayor Jeff Gore] AND WELCOME MAN. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THIS IS THE CITY HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL MEETING, REGULAR SESSION, REMOTE MEETING, A AMENDED AGENDA DATED AUGUST 24TH, 2020. AND WE ARE GETTING STARTED RIGHT AT 7:00 PM. THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDER AND OUR NEXT ITEM IS OUR INVOCATION, UH, BY LAY SPEAKER IN WORKFORCE COUNCIL MEMBER INDIA. THANK YOU. WHAT'D YOU BELIEVE BY YOUR HEADS? OH LORD. WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH US TONIGHT. YOU'LL BRING US THE SUN IN THE MORNING AND THE MOON IN THE EVENING. MAY THESE SOURCES OF LIGHT BE A CONSTANT REMINDER OF WHAT YOU CALL US TO BE A LIGHT IN THE DARKNESS, BE WITH US AND GUIDE US IN YOUR NAME. AMEN. AND NEXT STEP IS OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. I STATES OF AMERICA TAYLOR, WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL NEXT UP. IS THAT NUMBER FOUR? IT'S OUR ROLL CALL, MR. ROGERS, MR. SHAW. HERE IS BAKER HERE, MR. CAMPBELL. HERE IS DISPERSION HERE, HERE, MR. LION AIR, MR. HILL HERE, THE WEB KARA AND AIRBORNE HERE, EXCEPT [5. Approval Of Minutes] AS I HAVE NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS OUR APPROVAL OF MINUTES. ITEM FIVE A'S ARE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM AUGUST 10TH, 2020. THOSE HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED. IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR CORRECTIONS, THOSE MINUTES WITH STANDARDS APPROVED. OKAY. HEARING NONE. THOSE MENTAL BE PREMED. NEXT UP IS I REMEMBER SIX SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS. MR. [6. Special Presentations/Announcements] ROGERS, ITEM SIX, A VFW BUDDY POPPY MERRILL PROCLAMATION TO VFW POST 32 83. AND HERE WERE HIDES BY MAYOR JEFF CORR. YES, THIS IS THE STATE HEBREW HEIGHTS MARROW PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS THE ANNUAL DISTRIBUTION OF BUDDY POPPIES BY THE VETERANS OF FOREIGN WARS OF UNITED STATES HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED AND ENDORSED BY THE GOVERNMENTAL LEADERS SINCE 1922. AND WHEREAS VFW BUDDY POPPIES ARE ASSEMBLED BY DISABLED VETERANS. AND THE PROCEEDS OF THIS WORTHY FUNDRAISING CAMPAIGN ARE USED EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE BENEFIT OF DISABLED AND HE VETERANS AND THE WIDOWS AND ORPHANS OF DECEASED VETERANS. AND WHEREAS THE BASIC PURPOSE OF THE ANNUAL DISTRIBUTION AND BUDDY POPPIES BY THE VETERANS OF FOREIGN WARS IS ELOQUENTLY REFLECTED IN THE DESIRE TO HONOR THE DEAD BY HELPING THE LIVING. NOW, THEREFORE I, JEFF GORE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE THE SIGNIFICANCE AND IMPORTANCE IN THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS OF THE VFW BUDDY POPPY AND HEREBY URGE THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THE MERITS OF THIS CAUSE BY CONTRIBUTING GENEROUSLY TO ITS SUPPORT THROUGH DONATIONS FOR BUDDY POPPIES ON THE DAY OF SET ASIDE FOR THE DISTRIBUTION OF THESE SYMBOLS OF APPRECIATION FOR THE SACRIFICES OF OUR HONOR AND DEBT, I FURTHER URGE ALL PATRIOTIC CITIZENS TO WEAR BUDDY POPPY AS A MUTE EVIDENCE OF OUR GRATITUDE TO THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS COUNTRY WHO HAVE RISKED THEIR LIVES IN DEFENSE OF THE FREEDOMS THAT WE CONTINUE TO ENJOY AS AMERICAN CITIZENS AND WITNESS, WHERE I APPEAR IN TO SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF COOPER HEIGHTS TO BE A FIXED THIS 24TH DAY OF AUGUST IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD, 2020. AND I'VE SIGNED TO THAT PROCLAMATION AND WE WILL GET IT TO THE VFW. THANK YOU FOR PREPARING THAT IN ROGERS. NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, CITIZENS COMMENTS, MR. ROGERS, ANY THEY'RE ANONYMOUS IN YOUR NAME, THEY'RE IN CITIZENS REGISTER TO SPEAK ON SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. I HAVE NONE OF THOSE EITHER. [9. City Manager Report] I DON'T REMEMBER NINE IS OUR CITY MANAGER REPORT. MR. CHAIRMAN. YES. GOOD EVENING. I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, ANY UPDATES FROM TUESDAY'S UPDATE OTHER THAN WE CONTINUE TO, UH, TO WORK ON A FEW WATER MAIN BREAKS, AS WE'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CONCLUSIVE AS OF YET, BUT WE'RE GETTING SOME INFORMATION IN, UH, REGARDING, UM, UH, SOME CHEMISTRY WITHIN THE SOFTENING, HOPEFULLY ADDING SOME LINING AND, UH, UM, SOME THINGS WITHIN THE WATER SYSTEMS. SO, UH, AS SOON AS WE GET SOME CONCLUSIVE INFORMATION BACK ON THAT, UH, PERHAPS MORE [00:05:01] WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE A COUPLE OF CLUES AND POINTERS, BUT UNTIL THEN, UH, APPRECIATES WHO AS HIS EFFORT AND KEEPING UP WITH, UH, THE, THE FEW BREAKS THAT WE'VE HAD HERE IN THE INTERIM. AND, UH, WE'LL KEEP, UM, TRYING TO IDENTIFY IF THERE ARE ANY SPECIFIC ISSUES TO THEM. SO, UH, THE OTHER UPDATES ARE INCLUDED WITHIN THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS. SO THAT'S ALL I HAD FOR THIS EVENING. I CAN ROCK ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR MR. SCHOMER. OKAY. NEXT UP IS OUR NUMBER 10, WHICH HAS PENDING BUSINESS. I THINK MR. WEBB HAD WELL MR. MR. WEB. OH, THANK YOU. I COULDN'T GET IT ON MUTE, ROB. I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF YOU COULD GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE OFFICER INVOLVED, UH, IN THE CRASH ON 70, UM, HOW HE'S DOING. YES. UH, HE, UM, UH, HE IS, UH, OUT OF THE HOSPITAL, UH, STILL SOME FOLLOWUPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO UNDERGO, UM, AND STILL RECOVERING FROM BEING KNOCKED AROUND PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY. BUT, UM, I'M STILL WORKING THROUGH ALL THOSE DETAILS AND, UH, RECOVERY GETTING BACK TO, UH, TO WORK IN, IN EVERYDAY LIFE. SO CERTAINLY COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE. SO, UH, CERTAINLY APPRECIATE ALL THE POSITIVE THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS AND I'M SURE NICK DOES AS WELL. AND I'M A SITUATION THAT CERTAINLY COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE. UH, BUT, UM, NONETHELESS STILL HATE TO HEAR ABOUT AN INJURY, BUT, UM, I'M GLAD THAT HE IS ON THE WAY TO WORK ME TOO. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. MA'AM YES. THANK YOU. AND ONCE WE TALKED TO THE CHIEF OR YOU TALK TO NICK, CERTAINLY GIVE HIM ALL OF OUR BEST TO DO AT LEAST THANKS FOR SHERWEB MR. ROGERS, ITEM 10 UNDER NEW BUSINESS, [10. Pending Business] ACTUALLY UNDER PENDING BUSINESS PENDING BUSINESS AND FOLLOW THIS ITEM 10, A AN ORDINANCE DETERMINING TO PROCEED WITH THE IMPROVEMENT OF PUBLIC STREETS AND EASEMENTS. AND WINDBROOK SECTION THREE, PARCEL TWO PHASE ONE BY CONSTRUCTING, INSTALLING ON CERTAIN PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY STREET IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING SUB-BASE CONCRETE CURB GUTTER WITH DRAINAGE, ASPHALT STREET LIGHTS AND SIGNS ALONG WITH ALL NECESSARY PREGNANCIES AT THE SECOND READING. AND I'LL CALL ON THE SAME MAJOR ROCK SCHUMER FOR TOURNAMENTS. YES, AS YOU RECALL, PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING, WE DISCUSSED THIS AS THE ORDINANCE FOR THE ASSESSMENT. WE PASS THE RESOLUTION OF NECESSITY AT THE LAST MEETING. THIS IS AT THE SECOND READING. THESE ASSESSMENTS GO ALONG WITH THE, UM, THE DEAL WITH THE WINDBROOK SALE AND THE CONTINUATION OF THE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE LOTS. AS YOU RECALL, THE, UM, THE CITY SAT ON THAT LAND FOR QUITE SOME TIME, UH, AND, UH, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE, GET THE LAND SOLD AND DEVELOPED AND ACTIVATED. SO, UH, WE APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION OF THE ASSESSMENTS THIS EVENING, SO THAT, UH, ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION AND HOMES CAN GO IN UNDER THAT PLAN. THANK YOU, SIR. AND DORCHESTER RECOMMENDATION. IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE ADOPT THIS ITEM THIS EVENING. SO A MOTION I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. MRS. BURGESS MOTIONS. IS THERE A SECOND, MR. WEBB SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION HEARING? NONE MR. ROGERS, BE COLORED PLEASE. MS. BAKER. YES. MR. CAMPBELL. YES. THIS IS BURJ. YES. MR. OTTO. NO, BUT MAYOR YOU DID MISS MR. SHAW DID THROW HIS HAND UP FOR DISCUSSION. SO I'M NOT SEEING ANY OF THAT SHOW UP ON MY COMPUTER UNDER THAT. IF I MISS THAT, MR. SHAW, SHE SAID, MISS THAT YOU HAVE COMMENT. ALL RIGHT. SINCE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROLL CALL AND WE CAN GO AHEAD WITH THE ROLL CALL AND I'LL HAVE COMMENTS AFTERWARDS. OKAY. WAS THROUGH, UH, MR. LYONS? YES. MR. HILL. YES. MR. WEBB. YES. MR. SHAWL. NO. OKAY. AND MOTION CARRIES SIX TO TWO. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, UH, THAT YOU GUYS ARE, ARE YOU USING THE ACTUAL RAISE YOUR HAND FEATURE? CAUSE NORMALLY THAT SHOWS UP LIKE A BIG YELLOW NEON HAND AND I'M NOT SEEING ANY, I DIDN'T SEE MR. WEBB'S EITHER EARLIER, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. SO AT THIS, AT THIS PARTICULAR CASE, MAKE SURE, UM, SINCE I'M NOT SEEING IT, THAT IF YOU HAVE DISCUSSION WITH QUESTIONS, ACTUALLY, PLEASE RAISE THEM VERBALLY TO ME BECAUSE I DON'T SEE, UH, THE ACTUAL HAND MOTION THAT'S NORMALLY THERE. SO [ A Motion To Appoint Frederick Aikens, Jean Newby, And Tara Purvis To The Culture And Diversity Citizen Action Commission For A Term Ending December 31, 2022 And To Appoint Estephon Ramirez And Arrick Richardson To The Culture And Diversity Citizen Action Commission For A Term Ending December 31, 2021. ] THE NEXT STEP IS ITEM NUMBER 11, NEW BUSINESS ITEM 11, A EMOTION POINT, FREDERICK AKINS, JEAN NEWBIE, AND TARA PURPOSE TO THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZEN ACTION COMMISSION FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2022. [00:10:01] AND TO A POINT ASKED TO FIND RAMIREZ AND ERIC RICHARDSON TO THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZEN ACCIDENT, ACTION COMMISSION FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2021. THEN MR. ROGERS, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? UH, YES. UH, YOU MAY RECALL THAT THE, UH, EXISTING MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, MATT, AND, UH, THROUGH A SCREENING AND INTERVIEW PROCESS, I'VE MADE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THESE FIVE INDIVIDUALS TO COUNCIL FOR APPOINTMENT TO THIS COMMISSION. UM, THEY ARE TWO STAGGERED TERMS. THE BACKGROUND CHECKS HAVE ALL BEEN COMPLETED AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS MOTION TONIGHT. WE'D ALSO LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND THANK THE SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF APPLICANTS THAT WE DID HAVE FOR THESE VACANCIES. UM, THERE WAS A HUGE RESPONSE TO, UH, THIS COMMISSION AND, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF QUALITY CANDIDATES APPLY. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WERE ONLY FIVE SLOTS AT THIS TIME. SO, UH, WE JUST LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION AND, UH, SOUGHT APPOINTMENTS WITH THIS PARTICULAR CONDITION IS THINKING MR. ROGERS, YOU'RE POINTING THAT OUT. AND CERTAINLY I WOULD LIKE TO THINK NOW ALL THOSE APPLICANTS FOR APPLYING TO, UH, WE DEFINITELY NEED LOTS OF PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE. SO I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PERSONALLY THINK I APPRECIATE THAT. AND AT THE WORK SESSION, UH, THIS WAS RECOMMENDED TO BE APPROVED THIS EVENING. SO I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE. THIS IS BURJ MOTIONS. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND, MR. SHAW SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NOT SEEING ANY HANDS, NOT HEARING ANY VOICES, MR. ROGERS, WOULD YOU CALL THEM MR. CAMPBELL? YES. THIS IS BURJ. YES. MR. OTTO? YES. SLIME. YES. MR. HILL. YES. MR. ROB. YES. MR. SHAW. YES, IT WAS BAKER. YES. AND MOTION CARRIES EASIER. CONGRATULATIONS TO THE FIVE NEW MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. [ An Ordinance Authorizing Advances And Transfers Between Various Funds Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio And Amending Ordinance No. 2019-O-2403 By Making Supplemental Appropriations For Expenses Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio For The Period Beginning January 1, 2020 And Ending December 31, 2020. (first reading)] NEXT UP IS ITEM 11, B ITEM 11, BE AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING ADVANCES AND TRANSFERS BETWEEN VARIOUS SPONSORS OF THE CITY, THE RIGHTS OHIO AND ORDINANCE NUMBER TWO ZERO ONE NINE DASH ZERO DASH TWO FOUR ZERO THREE. I'M MAKING SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR EXPENSES OF THE CITY OF YOUR RIGHTS, OHIO FOR THE PERIOD BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2020, AND ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2020 AT THE FIRST DRAINAGE, ROB. YES. AS YOU RECALL, MR. BELL, UH, EXPLAINING THE SUPPLEMENTAL FROM THE WORK SESSION, THERE IS A VARIETY OF ITEMS ON THERE. ONE IS AN ADVANCE FROM THE GAS TAX FUND TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND FOR THE RTA BUS SHELTERS. THAT WILL, AGAIN, MOST OF WHICH WILL BE REIMBURSED THROUGH THE AWARD OF THE GRANT, A 29,000 TRANSFER FOR THAT CITY'S PORTION OF THE, UH, THE BUS SHELTERS, UH, AN ADDITIONAL ADVANCE FROM THE GAS TAX FUND TO THE CARES TRAIL INFRASTRUCTURE FUND, UH, FOR THE FRONT MONEY FOR CARE TRAIL, SECTION 17, IT'LL BE REIMBURSED BY THE SIBYL, UH, 430, 2000. I ALREADY COVERED THAT ONE, 208,000 ADVANCE FROM GAS TAX TO CARRIAGE TRAILS INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ROADS, FOR THE WINDBROOK, WHICH WILL AGAIN BE REIMBURSED BY A SIBLING, A 3.8 MILLION RECLASSIFICATION OF A PORTION OF THE 2020 BUDGET THAT WAS ORIGINALLY IN THE TED FUND, BUT WE'LL ACTUALLY NEED TO MOVE FROM OPERATIONS TO DEBT SERVICE SINCE THAT IS A NOTE, AND THAT IS ON THE AGENDA LATER ON AS WELL, AND 640,000 RETURN OF ADVANCE FROM THE CARRIAGE TRAILS FUND TO THE GAS TAX FUND FOR A PREVIOUS, UH, ADVANCE THAT, WHICH THE SIBLING HAS, UH, HAS PROVIDED THOSE FUNDS AND 12,000, UH, ADDITIONAL FOR BASE ABATEMENT EXPENSES IN THE ZONING DEPARTMENT, UH, THAT WAS DISCUSSED AS WELL, ALL IN ALL A BUNCH OF HIGH NUMBERS, MOST OF WHICH WERE TRANSFERS IN OR FROM, UH, CLASSIFICATIONS OF FUNDS. UH, THE, UH, THE NET COST OF THE ACTUAL INCREASE TO THE BUDGET WAS 41,000, UH, FROM THE TRANSFER OF, UM, THE, UM, UH, BUS SHELTERS AND THE ZONING DEPARTMENT. WE ASKED THAT THE SECOND READING BE WAIVED, UH, SO THAT THE APPROPRIATIONS CAN GO INTO AN EFFECT UPON ADOPTION, BIG DROP IN THE WORKSPACE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO WAY THE SECOND READING ENDED UP THIS EVENING. IS THERE A MOTION TO WAIVE, UM, UH, MAKE THE MOTION MS. BURJ MOTIONS TO WAIT? IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND? YES, IT WAS REAL SECONDS, UH, DISCUSSION MRS. BERG. YEAH, THIS IS JUST KIND OF INDIRECT. UH, ROB, I KNOW THAT THE NUMBER IS GOING TO BE, BUT WHAT IS THE NEXT DISBURSEMENT OF THE GAS TO COME FORWARD? DO WE KNOW? I BELIEVE THAT THAT WILL COME AFTER [00:15:01] OCTOBER AND THE ESTIMATES ARE DOWN FROM MR. BELL SPOKE BRIEFLY ON IT, BUT THE IN HOUSE ESTIMATES ARE, UH, IF I RECALL ABOUT $150,000 LESS THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROJECTED, BUT WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE, UH, THINGS HAVE PICKED UP. SO, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE, UM, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE, UH, IN THE GAS TAX REVENUES ARE, AND I BELIEVE THAT COMES ON OCTOBER. YEAH. I THOUGHT IT DID ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. CAN WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND ON THE WAVING IN A SECOND READING MR. ROGERS, MRS. BERG. YES. MR. ODDO. YES. MR. LYONS. YES. MR. HILL. YES. MR. WEBB. YES. MR. SHAW. YES. MR. BAKER. YES. MR. CAMPBELL. YES. MOTION CARRIES EIGHT ZERO, AND NEXT WE NEED A MOTION FOR ADOPTION. SO MOVED IS YOUR, WE HAVE MOTIONS. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND, MRS. BURJ SECONDS. ANY, A DISCUSSION ON THE ADOPTION HEARING IN ZYNGA AND MR. ROGERS PLEASE. MR. OTTO. YES. MR. LYONS. YES. MR. HILL. YES. MR. WEB. YES. MR. SHAW. YES. MS. BAKER. YES. MR. CAMPBELL. YES. MRS. BURCH. YES. AND ADOPTION ALSO CARRIES A ZERO. NEXT UP IS [ An Ordinance Providing For The Issuance And Sale Of Notes In The Maximum Principal Amount Of $3,750,000, In Anticipation Of The Issuance Of Bonds, For The Purpose Of Paying The Costs Of Acquiring Approximately 51 Acres Of Real Property Near The Intersection Of Brandt Pike And Executive Boulevard And Providing For The Site Preparation Thereof, All In Support Of Economic Development And Job Creation Within The City. (first reading)] ITEM 11, C I DON'T KNOW, 11 C AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE AND SALE NOTES AND THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF $3,750,000. ANY ANTICIPATION OF THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE COST OF ACQUIRING APPROXIMATELY 51 ACRES OF REAL PROPERTY NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF RANT, BIKE, AND EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD AND PROVIDING FOR THE SITE PREP PREPARATION, THEY'RE ALL IN SUPPORTIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND JOB CREATION WITHIN THE CITY AT THE FIRST READING MR. SHARP, UH, YES, THIS, UH, IS A ORDINANCE THAT WAS PROVIDED AND CREATED BY OUR BOND COUNSEL. UH, OF A SQUIRE PATTON BOGGS. THIS IS THE REISSUANCE OF THE NOTE. UH, AS YOU RECALL, WE BOUGHT THE NOTE FROM THE SEWER FUND REGARDING THIS. SO WE NEED TO REISSUE THE NOTE, UH, AS IT WAS ONE YEAR, WE ASKED THAT THE SECOND READING BE WAIVED SO THAT THIS IS, THIS IS A NON-EMERGENCY LEGISLATION, OF COURSE, BUT IN ORDER TO GET IT EFFECTIVE 30 DAYS FROM NOW, THAT WAY WE CAN PROCESS IT BY OCTOBER WHEN THE REASSURANCE WOULD BE DUE. SO WE ASKED THIS, CONSIDERED THIS EVENING FOR ADOPTION. OKAY. IS YOUR MOTION TO WAIVE THE SECOND MOTION TO WAIVE MR. CAMPBELL MOTIONS TO WAIVE? IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, MRS. BERGE, ANY DISCUSSION ON WAITING A SECOND READING AND HEARING NONE, MR. ROGERS, MR. LION'S. YES. MR. HILL. YES. WEBB. YES. MR. SHAW. YES. BAKER. YES. MR. CAMPBELL. YES. MRS. BERG. YES. MR. ADDIS. YES. MOTION CARRIES EIGHT ZERO. AND NEXT UP WE WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADOPT, MOVE TO ADOPT. MR. HILL IS YOUR SECOND. I WILL. SECOND, MR. WEBB'S SECONDS. ANY DISCUSSION? YES. MISS MIRROR? YES. MISS RHONDA, JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. UM, PROBABLY MORE SO FOR ROB, UM, SINCE WE'VE BEEN A YEAR SINCE OBTAINING THIS PROPERTY AND MARKETING IT, UM, WHERE ARE WE ON THE MARKETING FRONT? UM, WE GOT ANY TAKERS, ANY BITES ON THIS? UH, WHAT ACTIONS ARE WE DOING TO MOVE THIS PROPERTY? UM, ANYTHING GOING ON IN, IN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK WITH ANY OF THIS RIGHT NOW, BUT IF THERE WAS A, I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING NOW, GREAT. IF NOT, YOU GET BACK TO US LATER, THAT'D BE, THAT'D BE GREAT TOO. JUST KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE LAND RIGHT NOW. YEAH, ACTUALLY WE HAVE QUITE A BIT, THE, UH, THE ACTUAL DEMOGRAPHICS AND MARKETING, UH, SERVING AND STUDY, UH, HAS BEEN, UH, COMPLETED, UH, PROCESSED AND IN ABSORBED A LITTLE BIT. THERE'S A COUPLE OF, UM, A COUPLE OF INITIAL REACH OUTS. UM, BRIAN AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF, UH, HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT THEY'VE PUT TOGETHER AND THAT WILL BE COMING IN AN UPCOMING WORK SESSION TO REVIEW, UH, THAT MARKETING STUDY. IF YOU RECALL THAT WE, UH, WE HAD CONDUCTED, UM, THE FIRM, UM, KIND OF HAD A HIATUS FOR A LITTLE WHILE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S SAYING THAT THEY'RE DOING NOWADAYS. AND, UH, THERE WAS A BIT OF A DELAY IN THE, UH, IN THE FINALIZATION OF IT, BUT NONETHELESS IT IS COMPLETE. AND, UH, WE'VE GOT AN SECOND OPTION AND ANOTHER PHASE [00:20:01] REGARDING TARGETING AND DIRECTLY GOING AFTER SPECIFIC DEVELOPERS AND OR BUSINESSES PER SE, BASED ON THE IDENTIFIED, UM, UM, POTENTIAL MARKETS, UH, WITHIN THE STUDY. SO ALL OF THAT IS UPCOMING AT A, A AT A WORK SESSION HERE, AS SOON AS THEY FINALIZE ALL OF THAT. SO WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE A DETAILED PRESENTATION ON THAT. WHEN WILL THAT ADDRESS KIND OF THE TARGET MARKETS WE'RE LOOKING AT? I RECALL BRIAN MENTIONED THINGS ALONG THE LINES OF, AND I WAS REALLY THRILLED ABOUT THIS, THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, WAREHOUSING AND SHIPPING AND LIGHT MANUFACTURING, THOSE THINGS IS THAT WHAT'S, WHERE'S OUR TARGET ARGUING AGAINST STILL IS ON IT. YES. ALONG WITH OTHERS. UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY OTHER COMMERCIAL, UH, AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, UH, SOME OFFICE, UM, MULTIFAMILY. UM, AND OF COURSE THERE'S ALWAYS, THERE'S ALSO SERVICE, UH, AND, AND LIGHT RETAIL BASED ON THE LOCATION BEING ADJACENT TO THE HIGHWAY. BUT, UH, AS WE'VE SEEN, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS LOCATED MORE ON THE TWO OH TWO FRONT, AS FAR AS RETAIL GOES, BUT SOME OF THE SERVICE END, PERHAPS MORE HOSPITALITY AND MORE EATERIES, UH, ARE RIPE FOR SOME EXPANSION DOWN IN THAT AREA AS WELL. SO. OKAY. EXCELLENT. YEAH. YOU'RE WELCOME. GOOD. FIX A STRUGGLE. THANKS, ROB. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THANK YOU. DO YOU SEE MY HAND UP? UH, I DID, YES. OKAY. WELL, NO, NO, NOT THE ELECTRIC HAND. I SAW YOUR REAL HAND. OH, I HAD MY ELECTRIC HAND UP TOO. NOPE, DIDN'T SEE THAT. OKAY. YEAH. FOR WHATEVER REASON OR ELECTRICITY WORKING. UM, ROB, QUICK QUESTION. UM, I, AND FURTHER REVIEW OF THIS LEGISLATION, I SEE WE'RE GOING OUT WITH, UH, 20 ANNUAL INSTALLMENTS. UM, WHAT WAS THE CHANGE FROM 12 TO TWO TO 20, INSTEAD OF TAKING IT A FULL TWO YEARS? LET ME PULL IT UP HERE. CAUSE THIS, THIS HAS US GOING OUT. I BELIEVE IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY, UM, UH, TO 2021 IN SEPTEMBER, BUT THEN IT HAS DECEMBER 20, 22 IN THERE AS WELL. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DATES AND THE AMOUNTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE ORDINANCE ARE CORRECT. I'M LOOKING IN SECTION THREE. UM, OKAY. YES. UM, I BELIEVE, AND AGAIN, THIS LANGUAGE IS DEVELOPED AND VETTED BY BOND COUNSEL. UM, BUT I BELIEVE WHAT THAT IS. AND JERRY CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. UM, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT, WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, AT THE DECEMBER ONE OF EACH YEAR AND THE AMOUNTS OF THE TOTAL PRINCIPAL INTEREST PAYMENTS TO THE BONDS, WHICH THE PRINCIPAL IS PAYABLE SHALL BE SUBSTANTIALLY EQUAL. AND THE FIRST PAYMENT OF THOSE BONDS IS ESTIMATED DECEMBER 1ST, WHICH WOULD BE AFTER THE EXPIRATION OF THIS NOTE OR FINANCING FOR THE NEXT SET OF PRINCIPAL PAYMENTS. UM, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. IN OTHER WORDS, THAT WOULD BE THE, UM, THE ANTICIPATED PAYMENT, FIRST PRINCIPLE PAYMENT ON FINANCING BEYOND THIS NOTE. IN OTHER WORDS, WE, CAN'T JUST NOT RENEW THE NOTE AND HAVE IT GO AWAY. SURE. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. YEAH. CAUSE THE LANGUAGE WAS KIND OF, UM, I WILL SAY IT WAS, UH, VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT LOOKS TO BE ALMOST GAINING 14 OR 15 MONTHS WORTH OF INTEREST BEFORE YOUR FIRST PRINCIPAL PAYMENT BALLOONS IN ALMOST TWO YEARS FROM NOW. UM, THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S GOING TO BE A HEFTY PAYMENT IN DECEMBER OF 2022. WELL, AGAIN, IT'S, UH, IT'S ALL SPACED OUT ON ESTIMATES AND THEN THE ACTUAL, UH, THE ACTUAL SCHEDULE AND THE ISSUANCE AND THE SALE OF THE NOTE, UH, WILL DETERMINE WHAT THOSE, WHAT THOSE FINAL NUMBERS WOULD BE. SO MUCH OF THIS IS WRITTEN BASED ON WHAT WOULD THE ALLOWABLE MAXIMUMS BE AND MMM, MMM. IT WON'T BE DETERMINED UNTIL IT'S ACTUALLY ISSUED. OKAY. NOW OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THIS IS TECHNICALLY NOLAN VOID. IF SOMEBODY COMES UP IN A FEW MONTHS AND BUYS UP ALL OF OUR PROPERTY AND THEN WE IN THE NOTES ARE NO LONGER NEEDED, UM, BECAUSE THE WAY I LOOK AT IT AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, OR MAYBE JERRY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PREPAYMENT PENALTIES OR EARLY PAY OFF PENALTIES THAT WE CAN, UM, ASSIST ON THIS BECAUSE TECHNICALLY IT'S OUR BOND. YES, WE, YES, WE BOUGHT IT. AND, UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S CERTAINLY THE, UH, THE PLAN TO MAINTAIN THAT GOING INTO THE, UH, THE NEXT ROLL OF THIS NOTE. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ONE THING I [00:25:01] WILL SAY, AND I AM NOT A FINANCE PERSON, BUT THIS IS AN ORDINANCE TO ROLL OVER THE NOTES IN ANTICIPATION OF THE BANDS. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE BUTTONS THEMSELVES. SO THE NOTE IT'S GOING TO BE ONE TIME, BUT THEN THE BOND IS ESTIMATED TO BE IN DECEMBER. AND I THINK THERE'S A LAG BETWEEN WHEN THE NOTES GO IN, THE BONDS ARE ACTUALLY SOLD. IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT TIME PERIOD. WE GOOD. HEY, I MEAN, RICHARD, DOES THAT SATISFY YOUR QUESTION? IT DOES. LIKE I SAID, SECTION THREE, JUST REALLY KIND OF CAUGHT ME UP THERE A LITTLE BIT. UM, AND I MAY HAVE SOME FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, WITH JIM BELL ON, UH, ON GETTING SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT, UM, UNDERSTANDING THE, THE AMOUNTS THAT ARE ESTIMATED, UM, BUT ALL IN ALL. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT I'M LOOKING AT ARE LINING UP. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ADOPTION CAPES? THERE IS A MOTION IN A SECOND, MR. ROGERS, WHICH CORNER PLEASE? MR. HILL. YES. MR. WEB, THE WEB. I SEE A FAN SO I CAN SEE HE HAS HIS MUTE ON. SO DON, YOU REMOVE YOUR MUTE FOR THE ROLL CALL, MR. ROGERS WHEN SHE COULDN'T CONTINUE. OKAY. UM, MR. SHAW? YES, IT WAS BAKER. YES. MR. CAMPBELL? YES. THIS IS BERGE. YES. STRADA. YES. MR. LYONS? YES. AND MR. MR. WEBB, WE WERE VOTING ON THE MOTION TO ADOPT ON ITEM 11. DO YOU VOTE? YES, I COULD HEAR YOU, BUT YOU COULDN'T HEAR ME? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND THE ADOPTION ALSO CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO. SO NEXT [ An Ordinance Approving Individual Assessments Amounts And Directing The Finance Director Or His/Her Designee To Certify The Amounts To The Applicable County Auditor For Collection, And Declaring An Emergency. (first reading)] UP WOULD BE ITEM 11, D ITEM 11, D AN ORDINANCE APPROVING INDIVIDUAL ASSESSMENTS AMOUNTS AND DIRECTING THE FINANCE DIRECTOR OR HIS OR HER DESIGNEE TO CERTIFY THE AMOUNTS TO THE APPLICABLE COUNTY AUDITOR FOR COLLECTION AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY AT THE FIRST READING. THIS WILL SHOW. YES. AS YOU RECALL, JIM, TALK ABOUT, UM, THE SIDEWALK ASSESSMENTS. THAT'S ALSO INCLUDES THE LIGHTING DISTRICT ASSESSMENTS THAT ARE ANNUAL AS WELL. UH, WE WAITED TILL, UH, PRETTY MUCH THE LAST MINUTE TO GIVE ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES AS A RECEIVE SOME ADDITIONAL PAYMENTS IN TO AVOID THE ASSESSMENT ON PROPERTIES AS JIM EXPLAINED. SO, UH, THE, UM, UM, APPENDIX WAS ADDED FOR THE PACKET, BUT WAS NOT YET AVAILABLE, UH, IN FINAL FORM FOR THE WORK SESSION, AWAITING SOME FINAL PAYMENTS FROM SOME RESIDENTS. UH, NONETHELESS, WE ASK THAT THE, UM, SECOND READING BE WAIVED AND THIS ORDINANCE BE PASSED TO THIS EVENING, UH, IN ORDER TO, UH, TO GET A CERTIFIED AND SENT TO THE COUNTY PER THEIR RELATIVELY, STILL NEW PROCESS, BIG TRUCK. THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORK SESSIONS OR EMOTION FOR, UH, WAIVING THE SECOND READING. OKAY. SO HERE, UH, MR. VIRGIN, MR. WEBB, OR ARE YOU PREPARED TO SECOND? I AM. YES. AND MR. MRS. BERG MOTIONS, MR. WEBB SECONDS. ANY DISCUSSION I'M LEAVING THE SECOND HEARING AND SEEING NONE MR. ROGERS, MR. WIA. YES. MR. SHAW? YES. MS. BAKER. YES. MR. CAMPBELL. YES. MRS. BERGE. YES. MR. OTTO. YES. MR. LYONS. YES. MR. HILL. YES. MOTION CARRIES EIGHT ZERO. THE MOTION TO ADOPT, MOVE TO ADOPT LIONS. AND MR. LYONS MAKES THE MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, MR. HILL SECONDS. AND YOUR DISCUSSION ON THE ADOPTIONS? YES. MR. SHAWN, THANK HERE'S MY REAL HAND THIS TIME. I'M ROB. QUICK QUESTION. UM, GOING THROUGH EXHIBIT A AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS, UH, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY SOME OF THE COLLECTIONS ARE NOT SET TO BEGIN UNTIL FEBRUARY OF 2025? YEAH, LET ME PULL IT UP. I HAD MOVED ON TO THE NEXT ITEM HERE. GIVE ME JUST A SECOND. [00:30:01] OOPS. WRONG ONE STILL. SO 350. YEAH. IT'S ONLY, IT'S ONLY 357 PAGES. UH, YEAH. SO ONCE IT'S, ONCE IT'S FILED, REMEMBER THESE ARE GOING TO BE FILED FOR THIS YEAR, STARTING, UH, IT NEEDED TO BE FILED DEADLINE OF, UH, OF OCTOBER, OR MAYBE IT'S MAYBE IT'S THE END OF SEPTEMBER, RIGHT? ANYWAYS, THE COUNTY'S DEADLINE, WHATEVER THAT IS. AND THE ACTUAL COLLECTION OF THOSE ASSESSMENTS WON'T BE UNTIL THE TAX DUPLICATE FOR THE FOLLOWING HALF. SO THEY'RE FILED IN AND THEY DON'T GO IN EFFECT IMMEDIATELY. IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE SEND IT DOWN, THEY'RE NOT IMMEDIATELY RIGHT ON, THEY GET FILED IN BULK, JUST LIKE WHEN THE COUNTY APPLIES AND UPDATES THEIR TAX DUPLICATE. THAT'S WHEN THEY ADD THE, UH, THE NEWEST SYSTEM SO MUCH. LIKE IF YOU, UM, UH, PURCHASE A NEW HOME UNTIL IT'S EVALUATED, YOU GET THAT ESTIMATE UNTIL THE COUNTY ASSESSES AND PUTS THAT, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT TAX, OR THAT, UH, REQUIRED PAYMENT ON YOUR, UH, ON YOUR PROPERTY TAX BILL. SO WHEN IT SAYS TAX YEAR 20, UH, 21, UH, THEN THE SAME THING WOULD GO FOR FEBRUARY OF 2022, UH, SIDEWALK PROGRAM. IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, THE VARIOUS ADDRESSES, YOU'LL SEE MULTIPLE YEARS FOR EACH ADDRESS AND THAT'S THE SUBSEQUENT YEARS BECAUSE IT'S A MULTIPLE YEAR ASSESSMENT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? PERFECT. THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. I, UM, I EXPLAINED THAT CORRECTLY TO SOMEBODY WHO REACHED OUT TO ME, UH, BUT I WANTED TO GET THAT ON, ON HERE TODAY. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO RANDOMLY LOOK AT THAT AND SEE 20, 25 WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE MULTIPLE YEARS AT THE SAME ADDRESS, BECAUSE I, I GUESS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE WAY THE COUNTY WANTS US TO DO IT, WE HAVE TO HOLD THEIR HAND EACH STEP OF THE PROCESS. WE JUST CAN'T TELL THEM THE SAME ASSESSMENT FOR FIVE YEARS. AND WE'RE HOPING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND REPEAT ALL OF THEM FOR 2021. DO IT AGAIN FOR 2022. WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS SATISFIES THAT FOR THOSE SUBSEQUENT YEARS, FOR THE ONE ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS WHAT MAKES THIS EXHIBIT A 350 PLUS PAGES. EXACTLY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE EXPLANATION, ANY OF THE DISCUSSION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND HEARING AND SEEING THEM MR. ROGERS, MR. SHAW? YES. MS. BAKER. YES. MR. CAMPBELL. YES. MRS. BURSCH YES. YES. MR. LYONS. YES. MR. HILL. YES. MR. WEBB. YES. AND THE MOTION TO ADOPT ALSO CURIOUS [ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into An Agreement With The Montgomery County Land Reutilization Corporation Regarding The Blight Abatement/Demolition 2.0 Program. (first reading)] NEXT UP IS ITEM 11 E ITEM 11 E A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY LAND RE RE UTILIZATION CORPORATION REGARDING THE BLIGHT ABATEMENT DEMOLITION DEMOLITION 2.0 PROGRAM AT THE FIRST READING, BUT IT SHOULD COVER. YES. AS BRIAN HAD EXPLAINED AT THE WORK SESSION, UH, WE'RE ESTIMATED TO RECEIVE A LITTLE MORE THAN $35,000, UH, FROM THIS PARTICULAR, UM, AVAILABLE BLOCK OF FUNDING. UH, WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND STACK THIS ON TOP OF A CDBG APPLICATION THAT WE APPLIED FOR EARLIER, UH, TO HOPEFULLY ADDRESS SOME OF THE DEMOLITION AND, OR, UH, BLINDED THINGS REGARDING SOME NUISANCE ABATEMENTS, ET CETERA. SO, UM, AS I UNDERSTAND, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH IF YOU NEED THE MONEY, TAKE IT, IF NOT, IT'S GOING TO GO BACK INTO THE BANK SO WE CAN CERTAINLY UTILIZE OUR FAIR SHARE. UH, WE'VE GOT SOME PROPERTIES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE IT FOR. SO WE ASKED THE RESOLUTION BE CONSIDERED THIS EVENING FOR ADOPTION IN THE WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT THE SITE. AND THIS EVENING IS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT IS MERGED MOTION. THERE ARE SECOND, SECOND LIONS, MR. LION SECONDS. ANY DISCUSSION HEARING? NONE MR. ROGERS, MS. BAKER. YES. MR. CAMPBELL. YES. MRS. BERGE. YES. MR. OTTO APOLOGIES. YES. CAROLINE'S YES. MR. HILL. YES. MR. WEBB. YES. MR. SHAWL, I GUESS. SURE. YOU'RE MUTED STILL RICHARD. YES. SORRY ABOUT THAT. AND MOTION CARRIES EIGHT ZERO. NEXT UP IS ITEM 11 [ A Resolution Amending Exhibit A Of Resolution No. 2019-R-6747 And Directing The Clerk Of Council To Re-File Ordinance No. 2019-O-2368 With The Miami County Auditor With The Amended Resolution. (first reading)] F I HAVE A LOT OF AN APP, A RESOLUTION AMENDING EXHIBIT A OF RESOLUTION NUMBER TWO ZERO ONE NINE DASH SIX SEVEN FOUR SEVEN. AND DIRECTING THE CLERK OF COUNCIL TO REFILE ORDINANCE NUMBER TWO ZERO ONE NINE DASH ZERO DASH TWO THREE SIX EIGHT WITH THE MIAMI [00:35:01] COUNTY AUDITOR WITH THE AMENDED RESOLUTION AT THE FIRST READING MR. SCHIRMER, UH, YES. UH, AS DISCUSSED AT THE WORK SESSION, THIS RESOLUTION ALLOWS FOR THE AMENDING OF EXISTING ASSESSMENTS, UH, UPON DESIGN, THE ASSESSMENTS WERE APPROVED FOR, UM, AREAS IN 62 AND UPON BUILD OUT, UM, BASED ON SOME, I BELIEVE SCOTT MENTIONED SOME SEWER LINES, ET CETERA. THEY'RE MOVING THOSE ASSESSMENTS TO, UH, OTHER CURRENTLY DEVELOPED LOTS CUT CURRENTLY TO BE DEVELOPED LOTS RATHER THAN THIS AREA, UH, OF THE, UM, OF THE SAME SUBDIVISION. SO ADDITIONAL ASSESSMENTS, NO ADDITIONAL LOTS. THEY'RE ALREADY APPROVED, JUST MERELY MOVING THEM FROM ONE ORIGINALLY APPROVED TO WHAT WILL BE FINALLY DESIGNED TO BUILD OUT. AND I WILL NOTE THE DIFFERENCE FROM THE WORK SESSION TO HERE. UH, IT ORIGINALLY THE TEXT AND THE MAPS, THE ONE SAID ONE 64, ONE SAID ONE 61. UH, AND WE MADE THAT CORRECTION, UH, MORE OR LESS AS A, UH, AS A TYPO. BUT, UM, AS YOU SEE THERE, UH, ON THE EXHIBIT, WHAT THE INTENTIONS ARE TO MOVE THOSE EXISTING ASSESSMENTS TO, UM, DIFFERENT LOTS WITHIN THE SAME SUBDIVISION. THANKS PATRICIA. TO WORK SESSION. WE DID RECOMMEND THE DOCUMENT TIME THIS EVENING. IS THERE A MOTION MR. EMOTIONS THERE SECONDS. SECOND, MR. HILL SECONDS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. NOT SEEING ANYONE OR HEARING ANYONE MR. CAMPBELL. YES. MRS. BERGE. YES. MR. MOTO. NO. MR. LYONS. YES. MR. HILL. YES. MR. WEBB. YES. MR. SHAW. NO. MS. BAKER. YES. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP [ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Award Contract For The Installation Of Bus Shelters At Different Locations. (first reading)] IS ITEM 11, G ITEM 11, G I RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AWARD CONTRACT FOR THE INSTALLATION OF BUS SHELTERS AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AT THE FIRST READING MR. SCHUMER. YES. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE ATTACHMENT, UH, THE CONTRACTORS THAT RETURN BIDS, L J D LUIS WAS THE LOWEST BID AND THEY WERE THE ONES THAT DID THE PREVIOUS WORK. UH, IN ADDITION, WE ADDED SOME, UH, SOME FUNDS IN THERE. YOU SEE 145 BECAUSE OF, UH, SOME WORK FOR, UH, SOME OF THE FOUNDATIONS AND SOME OF THE CONCRETE WORK THAT, UH, THE REST OF THE ALLUDED TO. SO WE ASK THAT THE RESOLUTION BE CONSIDERED THIS EVENING. AND AGAIN, 80% OF THIS WILL BE REIMBURSED, UH, FROM THE RTA COMMUNITY GRANT PROGRAM, LEAVING US WITH ABOUT $29,000. THANK YOU, ROB. THAT WAS A WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT THIS ITEM ENTERTAIN MS. BURCH FOR A SECOND. SECOND, MR. HILL IS SECOND AND DISCUSSION. MR. ROGERS, MRS. BURSCH. YES. MR. OTTO. YES. MR. LYONS. YES. MR. HILL. YES, YES. YES. MR. SHAW? YES. THAT'S BAKER. YES. MR. CANBERRA. YES. MOTION CARRIES EIGHT ZERO AND MIX [ A Resolution Amending Resolution No. 2019-R-6786 To Increase The Not To Exceed Amount For The Repair Of Sanitary Sewer Force Main On Powell Road. (first reading)] UP AS ITEM 11. I COME ALIVE IN AGE, A RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NUMBER TWO ZERO ONE NINE DASH FOUR DASH SIX SEVEN EIGHT SIX. TO INCREASE THE, NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT FOR THE REPAIR OF SANITARY SEWER FORCE MAIN ON POWELL ROAD AT THE FIRST READING. SURE. YES, WE HAD STARTED THE REPAIR PROCESS, HAD THE CONTRACTOR AND A WHILE REPAIRING THAT IT, UH, IT BROKE FURTHER DOWN THE LINE, UH, ADDING AN EMERGENCY REPAIR NEED AT A COST OF AN ADDITIONAL $22,000. UH, SO WE ASK THAT THIS RESOLUTION BE APPROVED TO AUTHORIZE THAT AMENDMENT, UH, TO COVER THE COST OF THAT ADDITIONAL REPAIR TO A, UM, TO A FORCE MAIN THAT HAPPENED JUST SOUTH OF WHAT WAS BEING WORKED ON IN THE ORIGINAL PROJECT. THANKS ROBIN. THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION. IS THERE A MOTION? SO MOVED MR. ODDO MOTIONS. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND, MR. SEAN SECONDS. ANY DISCUSSION MR. OTTO? YES. MR. LYONS? YES. MR. HILL. YES. MR. WEBB. YES. MR. SHAW. IT'S TRICIA. YES. MS. BAKER. YES. MR. CAMPBELL. [00:40:01] YES. THIS IS BERGE. YEAH, YOU DIDN'T MOTION CARRIES A ZERO. NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 11. [ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Execute An Agreement On Behalf Of The City Of Huber Heights, In Montgomery And Miami Counties, Ohio, With AEP Energy, Inc. For Electric Supply To The City Of Huber Heights Electric Aggregation Program. (first reading)] A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF HEBREW HEIGHTS AND MONTGOMERY AND MIAMI COUNTY. SOHIO WITH AEP ENERGY INCORPORATED FOR ELECTRIC SUPPLY TO THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, ELECTRIC AGGREGATION PROGRAM AT THE FIRST READING MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, WE RECALL MR. CIRRUS CAME IN, PROVIDED US A, A REVIEW OF THEIR RECENT BID, UH, AND QUOTES. UM, WHAT THIS REALIZATION, WHAT THIS LEGISLATION DOES IS ALLOW US TO TRUST IN OUR CONSULTANTS JUDGMENT AS TO WHEN THE RIGHT TIME IS, UH, TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, AN EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT, UH, WITH THAT SUPPLIER. UM, THE AGREEMENT WILL NOT EXCEED 4.69 CENTS. AND AS EXPLAINED BY, UH, MR. THAT, UM, IT'S LIKELY GOING TO BE LESS THAN THAT, BUT THIS AT LEAST ALLOWS US THAT AUTHORIZATION UP TO THAT POINT. AND WHEN THE TIMING IS RIGHT, HE WILL LET US KNOW AND WE WILL EXECUTE IT. UH, IF THIS RESOLUTION IS APPROVED AND ADOPTED THIS EVENING, FIX ROB, THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION AT THE WORK SESSION. SO YOUR MOTION, SO MOVED MISREAD MOTIONS. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND? THIS IS VERGE SECONDS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I DO HAVE A QUESTION MAYOR. YES. REAL QUICK. UH, THIS FOR ROB, UH, LAST WEEK YOU HAD MENTIONED A BID SHEET. HAD YOU HAD A BID SHEET ON THIS FOUR DIFFERENT ENERGY SUPPLIERS? I WANT TO SAY, I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT, THAT IT WAS PUT OUT AND YOU HAD THREE, IS IT? NO, NO. WE DID NOT KNOW THAT WAS HANDLED BY, UH, BY MR. SEROUS. YES. I, I, I DO NOT HAVE A BID SHEET. NO. OKAY. HE, OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. SO ALL THE, ALL THE BIDS I BELIEVE ARE, UH, ON THE, UH, ON THE SITE. UM, AND THEN YOU'VE ALSO GOT THE APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISONS AS WELL. SO, UH, IN, IN BIDDING OUT, I THINK HE EXPLAINED, AND I DON'T HAVE THE, UH, THE PRESENTATION HERE PULLED RIGHT UP, BUT IN HIS PRESENTATION, HE WENT THROUGH THAT. UH, BUT YEAH, THAT WAS ALL HANDLED BY, UH, BY THEM AS OUR, AS OUR CONSULTANTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION MISREAD? THANK YOU. MA'AM USE MY REAL NAME. YEAH. UM, I SEE, THANK YOU FOR QUICKLY GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT. UH, THE ANSWERS TO MY QUESTION AND ALSO THANK RICH. UM, I THINK YOU ANSWERED IT, UH, NEXT DAY, UH, FROM OUR MISTAKE AND, UM, JUST PRETTY GOOD SERVICE FROM HIM. I WAS VERY APPRECIATIVE AND MAKING SURE THAT ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, MR. ROGERS, MR. LYONS? YES. MR. HILL. YES. MR. WEBB. YES. MR. SHAW, BELIEVE YOU'RE MUTED AGAIN, BABY. OKAY. THE LITTLE BUTTON KEEPS GOING OFF AND ON LIKE A HUNDRED MILES AN HOUR. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. OH, SORRY. UH, NO MS. BAKER. YES. MR. CAMPBELL. YES. MRS. BERG. YES. MR. OTTO, NO MOTION CARRIES 16. NEXT UP IS ITEM [ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into Change Orders With Respect To Abatement Of Nuisance Conditions On Private Properties Contract And Increasing The Spending Limits To Ozscapes For Property Maintenance Services For Calendar Year 2020 And Waiving The Competitive Bidding Requirements. (first reading)] 11, JASON ITEM 11, J I RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO CHANGE ORDERS WITH RESPECT TO ABATEMENT OF NUISANCE CONDITIONS ON PRIVATE PROPERTIES CONTRACT AND INCREASING THE SPENDING LIMITS TO OZ SCAPES FOR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE SERVICES FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2020, AND WAVING THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS AT THE FIRST READING MR. SHOWMAN. SO WE HAD A, UH, AGREEMENT WITH THIS, UH, WITH THIS COMPANY FOR ACTUALLY BOTH THINGS, UH, LAWN AND WEEDS AND TRASH ABATEMENTS. UH, AS WE RECALLED, WE DID AN ABATEMENT FOR, UM, LAMENDOLA SCHOOL. THAT'S FOUR TO FIVE NOW, HOPEFULLY TO KEEP ALL OF THE SQUATTERS OUT AND VANDALS FROM GETTING INTO IT A LITTLE BIT OF A HAZARDOUS SITUATION THAT THE CURRENT OWNER JUST WASN'T APPLYING THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF EFFORT TO KEEP THEM OUT. UH, SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS ALLOW FOR THAT EXPENDITURE TO STILL COMPLETE THE REST OF THE ABATEMENTS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE NEEDED FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. SO, UH, INCREASE OF $12,000 TO THIS IS THE ASK AND I'M ON THE RESOLUTION CHAIN MAKING THAT CHANGE ORDER WITH THE AGREEMENT WITH US SCAPES. AND WE ASK IT'S CONSIDERED THIS EVENING FOR ADOPTION. WAS THE RECOMMENDATION. IS THERE A MOTION, [00:45:02] MOTION TO APPROVE MR. CAMPBELL MOTIONS? IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, MS. BAKER SECONDS. ANY DISCUSSION MR. SHAWL? THANK YOU, ROB. I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY VERIFY, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS STATED AT THE WORK SESSION THAT WE STARTED THE YEAR WITH 16,000. UH, WE WERE DOWN TO ABOUT 4,000 BECAUSE OF THE 12,000. WE HAD TO EXPAND THERE'S 12,000 IS SIMPLY GOING TO REPLACE THAT. UM, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CONTINUES, UM, MA YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC, UH, UM, AN UPDATE AT THIS TIME, WHEN, HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROPERTY? IT'S BEEN A BIG THORN IN THE SIDE OF US FOR QUITE SOME TIME. UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR SIX PLUS YEARS, I BELIEVE, UM, DISCUSSION AND, UH, UM, WHERE DO WE MOVE FORWARD? WHAT IS OUR SURE, UH, FIRST OF ALL, JUST CLARIFYING THAT $16,000 NUMBER THAT WOULD BE FOR THE TYPE OF ABATEMENT. THIS WAS OUR TOTAL ABATEMENT BUDGET IS 26,000, BUT THAT INCLUDES GRASS AND WEEDS AS WELL. SO JUST, UH, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S, THAT DIFFERENTIATION IN CASE SOMEBODY GOES BACK AND PULLS A PUBLIC RECORD AND SEES A DIFFERENT NUMBER. I DON'T WANT TO BE ON THE HOT SEAT FOR THAT ONE. SO THE, UM, THE PROPERTY ITSELF, WHAT WE'LL BE DOING IS TAKING THIS COST AND APPLYING THAT TO THE TAX DUPLICATES. SO IT'LL BE ON THE TAX RECORD OF THE, UH, OF THE PROPERTY. SO IF THE, OR THE PROPERTY OWNER MAY CHOOSE TO JUST GO AHEAD AND PAY IT AS WELL, UH, HE WILL, OF COURSE, RECEIVE THE BILL FOR THE ABATEMENT. UH, IF NOT, THEN WE WILL ADD, YOU KNOW, WE WILL APPLY THROUGH THE COUNTY TO HAVE IT AS ATTACHED. SO, UH, ONE OF TWO THINGS HAPPENS, THE PROPERTY COULD EITHER GO THROUGH, UM, A SALE. UH, THE OWNER COULD PAY THIS BILL. UM, THE OWNER HOPEFULLY WILL CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY IF WE CONTINUE TO HAVE ISSUES, UM, WE CAN ATTEMPT TO GO THROUGH AN ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY FOR NUISANCE ABATEMENT. UM, BUT I'M SURE AS JERRY CAN ATTEST, I, I'M NOT SURE IF I'LL STILL BE BREATHING AIR ON THIS EARTH BY THE TIME THAT PROCESS WOULD BE DONE, CONSIDERING THE LENGTH OF TIME IT'S TAKING TO GET THE OKAY TO TEAR DOWN AND ALMOST FALLEN DOWN ALL THE WAY, BURNT OUT HOUSE. SO, UM, UH, SARCASM INTENDED. SO THE, UM, UM, THAT WOULD BE OUR, OUR METHOD OF GETTING THIS MONEY BACK. BUT AS FAR AS THE STATUS OF THE PROPERTY, UH, WE HOPE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER UNDERSTANDS THAT WE REALLY EXPECT HIM TO KEEP THE PROPERTY UP. AND IF HE'S GOING TO MARKET IT, WE OFFER ASSISTANCE AND MARKETING THAT I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM HERE ROOM HAS PROBABLY CONTRIBUTED TO LEAD OR SPOKEN TO THEM. AND, AND MANY CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN HAD. SO HOPEFULLY, UH, HOPEFULLY THERE'S SOME MOVEMENT ON THIS. UM, BUT THOSE WOULD BE OUR OPTIONS TO MY KNOWLEDGE. LAST QUESTION. IS THE OWNER ENGAGED WITH THE CITY ON, ON WHAT THE STATUS IS? HE, I, I W I WOULD SAY YES. UM, I'M NOT SURE, UM, THAT HE FULLY UNDERSTANDS ALL OF THE PROCESSES. UM, HE'S OUT OF STATE. UM, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS HIS FIRST PROPERTY IN THIS AREA. UH, BUT, UH, WE CAN GET AHOLD OF, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER AND AT LEAST A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PROPERTY WHEN WE HAVE HAD ISSUES. AND, UH, REGARDING ANY TIME THAT HE HAS SOMEBODY INTERESTED IN IT, WE'RE ALWAYS CONTACTED, UM, BEEN CONTACTED BY A COUPLE OF REALTORS, ET CETERA. SO I WOULD SAY YES, UH, SOMETHING THAT HE, HE IS EXCELLENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. THINKING TO SHOW ANY OF THE DISCUSSION CARRIED ON MR. ROGERS, MR. HILL. YES. MR. WEBB. YES. MR. STALL. YES. IT'S BAKER. YES. MR. CAMPBELL. YES. MRS. BERGE. YES. SERRATO. YES. MR. LYONS, YES. IN THE MOTION CARRIES EIGHT ZERO, EXCEPT [ A Resolution Authorizing And Directing The City Manager To Initiate The Veterans Memorial Project By Execution Of All Necessary Agreements And Instruments For Design And Preparation Of The Project, Taking All Necessary And Proper Actions To Solicit, Advertise And Receive Proposals From Qualified Firms To Design, Procure And Install All Necessary Appurtenances Of The Project After Design, And Waiving The Competitive Bidding Requirements. (first reading)] IT'S ITEM 11 CASE ITEM 11. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO INITIATE THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PROJECT BY EXECUTION OF ALL NECESSARY AGREEMENTS AND INSTRUMENTS FOR DESIGN AND PREPARATION OF THE PROJECT, TAKING ALL NECESSARY AND PROPER ACTIONS TO SOLICIT, ADVERTISE, AND RECEIVE PROPOSALS FROM QUALIFIED FIRMS TO DESIGN, PROCURE, AND INSTALL ALL NECESSARY. APPURTENANCES OF THE PROJECT AFTER DESIGN AND WAVING THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS AT THE FIRST READING. MR. SCHOMER COMMENTS. YES. I, UH, I KNOW THAT'S, THAT'S QUITE A LOT IN A, IN ONE PIECE OF LEGISLATION. SO AFTER THE DISCUSSION AT THE LAST WORK SESSION, UH, KIND OF HEARD, UM, UH, A COUPLE OF MAIN [00:50:01] OBJECTIVES. SO WE ASSEMBLED THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THAT OBJECTIVE. UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A DRAFT PIECE TO GET THE DISCUSSION STARTED REGARDING A POTENTIAL ESTABLISHMENT OF A BUDGET. BUT THROUGH THAT DISCUSSION, IT WAS, UH, IT WAS CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT READY TO ACTUALLY FORMALIZE THAT BUDGET, BUT RATHER MOVE FORWARD WITH DESIGN AND PREPARE A BID PACKET TO GET IT OUT, TO BID SO THAT WE CAN CONFIRM WHAT EXACTLY THE COST AND WHAT THE WORK IS GOING TO BE. UH, SO THAT'S WHAT THIS LEGISLATION DOES, AS YOU CAN TELL A LOT OF THE SAME LANGUAGE AND MIRRORED AFTER SOME OF OUR PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE PREVIOUSLY, UH, OF SOME LARGE SCALE, UH, ALLOWING THE, UM, THE EXECUTION OF, IN WORKING WITH CERTAIN PROFESSIONALS TO BUILD THAT TEAM OF PEOPLE, UH, THAT LAUNCHED THE PROJECT. SO, UM, THE TITLE ITSELF SAYS JUST THAT FOR THE DESIGN AND PREPARATION OF THE PROJECT, UH, THERE'S A NUMBER IN THERE OF $1.5 MILLION. UM, THE REASON OF THAT IS, OF COURSE, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET, WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE TO FACTOR IN ANY OTHER POTENTIAL, UM, UH, COSTS, UH, AND AGAIN, SOME CUSHION. SO WE ALSO, BY OUR ORDINANCE HAVE TO DECLARE A, THAT CEILING WITHIN A PROXIMITY OF A, UM, OF A BID. SO, UM, THIS DOES NOT AUTHORIZE THE CONSTRUCTION. IT AUTHORIZES US TO BEGIN PUTTING THAT BID PACKET TOGETHER ALSO ALLOWS US ONCE THE BID PACKET IS TOGETHER TO SHIP IT OUT, TO BID, TO GET THOSE BIDS BACK. AND WITH THAT, WE NEED TO ESTABLISH THAT COST CEILING. SO, UH, WE, UH, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. I'M REALLY GLAD THAT THERE'S, UM, A LOT OF FERVOR AND INTEREST, UH, IN THE PROJECT, UH, EVEN BEEN SOME PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS AROUND IT. UH, SO HOPEFULLY ALL OF THAT INTEREST CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD AND CONTRIBUTING TOWARDS THE PROJECT. AND, UM, UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, ESPECIALLY THE VETERANS COMMISSION MEMBERS, I'VE SPOKEN TO A FEW OF THEM, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE EXCITED AND REAL HAPPY TO SEE THE COUNCIL HAS BROUGHT THIS TO THE FOREFRONT AND REALLY WANT TO PUT SOME ENERGY BEHIND IT. SO THIS IS THE PIECE THAT, UH, DIRECTS AND AUTHORIZES US TO GET OUT, TO GET THE, UH, GET THE FINALIZATION OF THE DESIGN STEPS PUT TOGETHER. SO WE CAN FORMALIZE THAT BID PACKET AND REALLY IDENTIFY WHAT THE MATERIAL COSTS ARE, WHAT THE DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS THAT WE'LL NEED, ET CETERA, AND WHAT THOSE COST CATEGORIES ARE TO, UH, TO KEEP THIS THING MOVING. THANKS, ROB, ANDY, YOU KNOW, I'M CERTAINLY CONFIDENT THAT BY THE TIME THIS, UH, AUGUST READY TO GO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A, HAVE A DESIGN. THAT'S NOT THE SOCKS OFF OF EVERYBODY WHEN IT COMES TO US HONORING THE VETERANS. SO I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME, MOTION TO APPROVE MARK CAMPBELL. SO EMOTIONAL IS YOUR CAMPBELL'S THERE A SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. MR. HILL, THE SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION, ROB, MARK GAMBLE, THERE'S A GAMBLE, RIGHT. IN REGARD TO WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE SIGNING A CONTRACT TO CONTRACTORS TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION AND BUILD THE PROJECT. IS THAT CORRECT? NO, THAT IS CORRECT. THIS ALLOWS THE DESIGN TO GET US TO THAT POINT, UH, TO GO OUT TO BID, THEN WE WOULD BRING THOSE BID BACK BIDS BACK FOR AWARD. AND AT THAT TIME WE DECIDE, UM, HOW MUCH OF, OR WHAT PHASES OR WHATEVER OF THE OVERALL PROJECT WOULD WANT TO BE APPROVED AT THAT TIME. THANKS, ROB, THANKS FOR BEING ON THE DISCUSSION SERRANO WHILE I AM 100% IN FAVOR OF THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PROJECT TO HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS, EVEN PRIOR TO IT COMING TO THE CITY. UM, I JUST, I DO TAKE ISSUE WITH A COUPLE OF THINGS IN THE LEGISLATION. I AGREE WITH, UH, THE ATTORNEY GERALD MCDONALD, THAT, UH, THERE WAS NO REASON FOR THIS, THAT EVERYTHING WE NEEDED TO DO. WE DID LAST AUGUST. WE GAVE ALL THE PERMISSION TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT. THERE ARE TWO THINGS OVER THAT STAND OUT IN THIS PIECE, SUCH AS WAIVING THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS AND TACKING A PRICE TAG OF $1.5 MILLION TO IT, WHICH, UM, I DON'T THINK ARE NECESSARY. I HONESTLY, I DON'T SEE THIS AS NECESSARY. UM, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE AUTHORIZED STAFF TO RUN WITH GETTING SOME MOCKUPS ON AND GET SOME, SOME THING DESIGN WORK DONE, UM, AND MOVING THROUGH SOME DIFFERENT PROCESSES. AND, UH, UNTIL THOSE THINGS ARE DONE, I DON'T SEE THE NEED TO START PUTTING PRICE TAGS ON THINGS AT THIS POINT. UM, I WANT THE PROJECT TO GO, I KNOW SOMEBODY IS GOING TO TRY TO MAKE SOMETHING OUT OF THIS, BUT THAT'S FINE. UM, BUT I, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH IN MY MIND QUESTIONING OF WHY THIS IS NECESSARY. I JUST, I DON'T GET IT. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT PLEASE. YEAH, SURE, SURE. [00:55:01] YEAH, SURE. I WOULD LOVE TO HOPEFULLY ANSWER MR. OTTO'S QUESTION. FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS NECESSARY BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION, UH, LET US GO OUT AND DO SOME INITIAL, UM, UH, ESTABLISHMENT OF THE PROJECT AS NOTED. THIS INITIATE IS THE ACTUAL PRODUCTS. ROB, YOU'RE FREEZING UP ON US AND GIVE ROB A SECONDARY SENTENCE CONNECTION. OKAY. ARE WE BACK ON? I HEAR YOU, BUT I DON'T SEE CAUSE MY CAMERA'S OFF. ALRIGHT, HOW'S THIS, THERE, THERE WE GO. YUP. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. I JUST LOST CONNECTION. I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH THAT I, THAT THAT WAS HEARD, BUT I'LL KIND OF START OVER, UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER MR. COMMENTS. UM, THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED IN AUGUST DUD DID ALLOW US TO ESTABLISH THE PROJECT AND GET SOME INITIAL WORK DONE. HOWEVER, THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION ACTUALLY COVERS THE COST WORK. SO THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION ISN'T NECESSARY FOR US TO CONTINUE MOVING ON. OTHERWISE WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE SITTING AROUND WITH A, WELL, WE HOPE WE HOPE TO GET THIS GOING THING. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE EXPENSES FROM THIS POINT FORWARD. IT COSTS MONEY TO HAVE THE ARCHITECTS ACTUALLY NOT JUST COME UP WITH A RENDERING BASED ON, UH, A, UM, A CONCEPT, BUT ACTUALLY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, REVIEW THE SOIL BORINGS, UH, REVIEW THE SITE, WORK PLOT THINGS PER, UH, PER DESIGN AND ENGINEERING SPEC, UH, AND, AND SCALE, UH, BASICALLY GET THOSE ARCHITECTURAL TYPE OF DRAWINGS AND DESIGN THAT BID PACKET THAT TELLS THE POTENTIAL CONTRACTORS WHAT SPECIFICALLY THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO PROVIDE FOR THOSE SERVICES. SO THIS PIECE IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY IN ORDER TO GET WORK DONE OTHERWISE. UM, I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT IF THERE IS AUTHORITY TO, TO GET THAT GOING, UH, REGARDING, UH, WAVING AND COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS, AS WE DO COMMONLY, UH, WITH, WITH, UH, WITH PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND STAFF, UM, UH, THAT IS WHAT THAT COMES IN. WE'RE NOT WAIVING THE BIDDING OF THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF IT, UH, THAT IS VERY CLEAR AND THAT, THAT THIS IS ONLY FOR PREPARATION. SO WE'VE GOT THINGS LIKE, UH, UH, GEO TO DO SOIL BORINGS, UH, DO DETERMINE HOW FAR DOWN THE ROCK IS. UH, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE TO DO, UM, A, UH, A SERVER TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO UTILITIES, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND THINGS OF DIFFERENT VENDORS THAT WE GENERALLY USE, UH, MUCH LIKE WE HAVE WITH EVERY OTHER PROJECT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, UH, TO STATE THAT, UM, UH, THIS IN ORDER TO GET THE PROJECT MOVING THIS PIECE IS IN FACT NECESSARY. AND IT IS ALSO IN FACT NECESSARY TO GET IT OUT TO BID. I HEARD VERY CLEAR, UH, FROM MR. OTTO INCLUDED FROM LAST TUESDAY THAT WE WANT TO GET THIS OUT TO BID, TO FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, UH, WHERE, WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS. SO AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO LEGISLATE GOING TO BID ON THINGS LIKE THIS, AND THE PREVIOUS LEGISLATION DID NOT DO THAT. SO THIS IS IN FACT NECESSARY. AND I THINK ENCOMPASSES THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND, UH, THE, THE PRICE POINTS, BUT WE'RE DESIGNING IT BASED ON THAT PRICE POINT. UH, AND WE'LL SEE WHAT THE BIDS COME BACK AND IF WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, THAT'S WHEN COUNCIL'S, UH, APPROVAL AT THAT TIME, WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS AND APPROVE OR NOT. SO BASICALLY, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, I OPTIONS OR DESIGNS OR ANYTHING TO MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS WHAT THE PROJECT HAS LED US UP TO THIS PIECE INITIATED AND GETS THAT DESIGN WORK IN THE BID PACKET, PUT TOGETHER, UH, TO GET SHOVELS IN THE GROUND AND, UH, MONUMENTS, UH, MONUMENTS BUILT WITH OUR CONVERSATION. WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE OCTOBER LEGISLATION, AUGUST LEGISLATION, WHEN THIS YEAR ESTABLISHED THE PROJECT, IT SHOWED THE COUNCIL WAS SERIOUS ABOUT MOVING FOOD, BUT THIS LEGISLATION IS ACTUALLY THE REAL WORK STARTS. YES. AGAIN, THESE ARE GOING TO BE THE SIGNIFICANT COST MEASURES. UH, AGAIN, THE DESIGN GETTING UP TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE [01:00:01] GOING TO PUT A BID PACKET TOGETHER AND ACTUALLY PUT IT OUT TO BID, AND WE DO NEED AUTHORIZATION TO DO THAT. AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S, THAT'S THE BRUNT OF WHAT THIS PIECE DOES, BUT WE WANTED TO SCALE. WE WANTED TO, UH, TO MODEL IT AFTER THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE UNDERTAKEN AND, UH, GOING ON AND, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY REGARDING A PROCESS AND A POLICY AND DESIGNING THAT SWAT TEAM TYPE OF MENTALITY, WHERE WE PUT TOGETHER A GROUP, A PROJECT TEAM, ET CETERA, AND, UM, AND ALLOW THAT TO, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD MUCH LIKE THE OTHER SUCCESSFUL MEASURES WE'VE TAKEN ON HERE IN THE BRAND PIKE AREA, IN THE, UH, REVITALIZATION ZONE. WELL, CAN I ASK, UH, JERRY, UM, YOU KNOW, SINCE HE HAD MADE THE COMMENT LAST WEEK, DOES HE STILL BELIEVED THAT, UH, THESE ARE SIMILAR PIECES OR DOES THIS, IN HIS OPINION CREATE A DIFFERENT, UH, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MOVEMENT? CAUSE I, I, AGAIN, I WAS GOING OFF THAT, HIS COMMENT THAT, THAT IT DIDN'T SEEM NECESSARY AND OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR IT? WHOOPS. NOPE, WE GOT YOU. OKAY. UM, THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION WAS VERY BROAD AND BECAUSE OF THAT, IT WAS ALSO VERY VAGUE. IF THE PEOPLE THAT, UH, NEED TO GO OUT AND DO THINGS FEEL THEY DON'T HAVE THE NECESSARY AUTHORIZATION, THEN I CAN SEE WHY SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THEY WOULD LIKE, BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY SPECIFIC. UM, ALTHOUGH WE DO HAVE BROAD LEGISLATION AND WE DO THAT QUITE OFTEN, WHEN YOU DO GO OUT TO HIT FOR CERTAIN THINGS OR PURCHASE REAL ESTATE, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE BROAD LEGISLATION, WE ALWAYS COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR CERTAIN THINGS AND GOING OUT TO BID IS ONE OF THEM. THIS HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION IN IT. THAT IS, ARE YOU A BULLY? NOT NECESSARY BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY COVERED BY THE OTHER LEGISLATION, BUT IT DOESN'T HURT TO HAVE IT IN HERE AGAIN. UM, AND IT'S THE FIT. THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE RELYING ON THIS LEGISLATION FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS, THEN THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO AUTHOR IT, TO RATIONALIZE WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO BE DOING THIS. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. UM, AS A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, THE $1.5 MILLION FIGURE, HOW DID WE GET THAT? BECAUSE I HEARD THAT THE INITIAL FIGURE, THE 1.6 WAS BACK OF THE NAPKIN AND THEN THE MAYOR CAME LAST WEEK WITH 1 MILLION. UM, BUT, UH, ROB, YOU STATED THAT WE PROBABLY WON'T EVEN HIT A MILLION. I DON'T THINK YOU'D PROBABLY BE UNDER THAT. NOW WE'RE AT ONE AND A HALF. WHERE'S OUR NUMBER COMING FROM? HOW ARE WE PULLING THIS UP FIRST CAME WHEN THE PRIVATE ORGANIZATION ARE ACTUALLY FIVE OH ONE C THREE, THAT THAT WAS WORKING ON. AND BEFORE THAT I WAS A PART OF, UM, WE WERE GETTING BIDS BACK ON THAT PROJECT THAT WE HAD PROPOSED COSTS OF 120, $130,000. NOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW THERE'S SUCH A BIG DIFFERENCE, BUT THESE WERE WORKED THROUGH MONUMENT COMPANIES THAT WERE GIVING US PRICES FOR BUILD OUT ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SURE. JUST TO, JUST TO GET A, YOU KNOW, PIECES OF STONEWORK AND MONUMENTS, BUT TO HAVE THE ENGINEERING, THE DESIGN, THE FOOTERS, UH, YOU KNOW, ELECTRIC WATER, THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THINGS CAN THINGS IN ADD PLUS THE SCALE OF THINGS. UM, YOU KNOW, THE SCALE OF, OF THE DESIRES OF, OF, OF THIS MONUMENT BEING A REGIONAL DRAW AND ALSO HAVING MULTIPLE ELEMENTS AND EDUCATIONAL PIECE, UH, IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PHASES, I THINK IS WHERE THAT RUNS IN. AND AGAIN, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THOSE ESTIMATES ARE GOING TO BE VERIFIED, BUT, UH, BASED ON PROFESSIONALS AND, AND GENERAL TRADE WORK, UH, THE OTHER THING THAT YOU GOTTA FACTOR IN IS, UH, BEING A PUBLIC PROJECT AND PREVAILING WAGE. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE, THAT CAN BE 20, 25, 30%, UM, AND THAT THAT'S CAN BE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AS WELL. SO LOOKING AT THE GENERAL BASIC SCOPE OF ALL THREE PHASES TO LOOK AT, HEY, LET'S DESIGN WHAT THE DREAM IS, AND WE NEED THAT COST CEILING TO SEE WHAT THAT IS. UH, THAT'S WHERE THIS, THIS NUMBER, THIS NUMBER IS, UH, CAN WE DO CERTAIN PHASES OF IT AT DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS? I'M CERTAIN WE CAN, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SPECIFICALLY WHAT THAT IS BASED ON WHAT THE BID PACKET REVEALS AND HOW THOSE, UH, SUPPLIERS AND CONTRACTORS WOULD RESPOND TO THOSE BIDS. UM, CURRENTLY I'M TOLD IT'S A PRETTY GOOD BIDDING MARKET. UH, BIDS ARE, ARE COMING IN WELL. SO, UH, AS WE GET INTO THE COOLER MONTHS, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOME PRETTY COMPETITIVE BIDS AND GET SOME, SOME LOW PRICE POINTS LOCKED IN AND REALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO, UH, TO CELEBRATE ON THIS, UH, OF A, A, OF A LARGE GRAND SCALE THAT IS BENEFICIAL, NOT JUST TO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THE REGION, UH, WHICH THEN BOUNCES BACK AND BENEFITS OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR PROXIMITY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PAT AND ALL THE VETERANS AND SERVICE MEMBERS WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO, UH, THAT, THAT'S WHY THAT'S THERE AGAIN, IT'S PART OF THE PROCESS TO PUT OUT TO BID WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO [01:05:01] ESTABLISH THE, UH, THE POTENTIAL CEILING OF IT. UH, AND WHEN WE GET IT DESIGNED OUT, WE'LL KNOW FOR SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SURE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THIS IS THE BIRCH. YES. UH, GLEN, I THINK YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT, UM, THE VETERANS PROJECT PROPOSAL THAT, UH, THE MONUMENT COMPANY GAVE US WAS NUMBER ONE UP A SMALLER SCALE THAN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW. AND WE HAD TO PAY SEPARATELY FOR THE RENDERING AND BEFORE IT WOULD HAVE GONE OUT FOR A BID, WE WOULD HAVE, WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE AN ENGINEERING DRAWING DOWN. SO WE HAD JUST STARTED IDENTIFYING THE COST. AND OF COURSE, UH, THAT DIDN'T INCLUDE INSTALLATION BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD KNOW WHAT THE INSTALLATION COSTS WERE GOING TO BE WITHOUT GETTING A BID FROM A, FROM A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. SO WHAT WE GOT FROM THE MORRIS MEMORIAL COMPANY WAS JUST FOR THE MONUMENTS. SO EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A LOT LESS THERE, IT WAS JUST PRELIMINARY THAT DOES NOT ALIGN WITH YOUR COMMENTS AT THE FIRST, UH, VETERAN'S COMMISSION MEETING. FOR SURE. IT DOESN'T ALIGN WITH YOUR COMMENTS AT THE FIRST VETERAN'S COMMISSION MEETING CONCERNING THIS TOPIC. OKAY. NOW YOUR ONLY COMMENTS TO IT WHEN, WHEN THEY ASKED FOR A PRICE RANGE THAT DAR GROUP HAD COME UP WITH, AND I MENTIONED THE 120 HUNDRED AND 30,000 RANGE, YOUR COMMENTS WERE MORE OF A YEAH, BUT THIS ONLY WENT THROUGH A SINGLE SOURCE AND IN A BID OUT PROCESS, IT COULD COME IN AND EVEN CHEAPER. WELL, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I CAME IN LATE TO THAT. I'D NEVER SAW THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, SO, BUT, BUT THE WAY THIS IS, THIS IS APPLES AND ORANGES TO HERE BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE THE TOTAL COSTS AT THE VETERAN'S PROJECT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS SIDE, SEAN? SORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, ROB REAL QUICK. UM, AT THE LAST WORK SESSION I HAD ASKED FOR A DATE AND, UH, UH, SOME SORT OF MEETING DATE OF WHEN THIS, UH, BUDGET AND DESIGN WAS DISCUSSED AT THE MILITARY VETERANS COMMISSION. UM, DURING THAT MEETING, YOU HAD STATED IT WAS GIVEN TO THEM, BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVE A DATE. UM, I HAVE SINCE ASKED THE CLERK OF COUNCIL TO PROVIDE ME THOSE, UH, THOSE MEETING DATES, THE FIVE PUBLIC MEETINGS FROM THIS YEAR, AND I WATCHED EACH ONE OF THEM. AND I'VE ALSO BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE CHAIR OF THE HUBER HEIGHTS VETERANS COMMISSION, WHO SENT ME AN EMAIL BACK TODAY, WHO ALSO WAS UNABLE TO PROVIDE ME THE DATE AND TIME OF WHEN THAT WAS DISCUSSED. WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL THAT WE TABLE THIS UNTIL IT'S BEEN VETTED BY THAT COMMITTEE? AND THAT EMAIL THAT, UM, AL GRIGG SENT OUT WAS ALSO COPIED WITH RAY, GERARD AND BILL CROMER ON THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE AND I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE THAT EMAIL WITH ALL OF COUNCIL I HAD, LIKE I SAID, I JUST RECEIVED IT LATE. THIS I JUST JOINED BACK IN. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. I JUST JOINED BACK IN. I MISSED A GOOD PORTION OF THAT. IF THAT WAS A QUESTION FOR ME AND I'M SORRY IF I BUDDED IN NO, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I WAS, I WAS OUT FROZEN AGAIN, SO NOW I'M CONNECTED THROUGH MY PHONE AND HOPEFULLY IT WORKS BETTER NOW. OKAY. UM, WHAT I WAS STATING IS THAT THE LAST WORK SESSION, UM, I HAD ASKED, UH, WHEN THE MEETING DATE WAS THAT THIS DESIGN AND BUDGET WAS DISCUSSED AT THE VETERAN'S COURT. UM, I WAS, I WASN'T ABLE TO GET A DATE AND TIME DURING THE WORK SESSION. SO THE CLERK OF COUNCIL HAD SENT ME ALL OF THE MEETINGS FROM 2020 TO FIVE PUBLICLY NOTICED MEETINGS AND REVIEW YOU AND EACH ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS. AND EVEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE CHAIR OF THE VETERANS COMMISSION, UM, THEY WERE UNABLE TO PROVIDE ME A DATE AND TIME AS WHEN THAT COMMITTEE DISCUSSED THIS DESIGN AND AMOUNT. UM, I JUST GOT THE EMAIL BACK FROM AL GRIGGS WHO ALSO COPIED RAY GERARD AND BILL CROMER THAT WAS AT FIVE 45, UM, UH, THIS EVENING. UM, SO I, MY APOLOGIES NOT GETTING IT OUT TO ALL OF COUNCIL PRIOR TO THIS MEETING, BUT, UM, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO TABLE THIS UNTIL ALL THE PARTIES ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. OH, WOW. I CAN TELL YOU THAT. UH, UM, THEY MAY NOT REMEMBER THE DATE, BUT FIRST OF ALL, AS FAR AS THE BUDGET GOES, UH, THEY'RE NOT REALLY AN APPROVING BODY FOR ANY FINANCIALS. SO, UH, WE WOULDN'T HAVE REALLY DISCUSSED TOO MUCH FINANCIALS. UH, BUT THE, UH, THE, THE, THE SHEET, UH, OF THE RENDERINGS AND THE BASIC DESIGN. YEAH. WE DISCUSSED THAT AT, UM, I FORGET THE, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHICH DATE IT WAS, BUT WE DISCUSSED THAT AT ONE OF THE VETERANS COMMISSION MEETINGS. AND, UM, I KNOW [01:10:01] FOR, PROBABLY IN THE FEBRUARY ISH AREA, I THINK IS WHEN WE GOT THAT, UM, THAT BASIC DRAFT RENDERING. SO IT, UH, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN, WOULD HAVE BEEN SOMETIME AFTER THAT, I HAD BEEN AT ONE OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS. NOW, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS. WELL, BECAUSE GOING BACK INTO 2019, EVEN INCLUDING THIS YEAR, UM, THE MEETING MINUTES STATED THERE WAS SUB COMMITTEES, AS A MATTER OF FACT, A VOTE HAD ACTUALLY TAKEN PLACE, UM, TO ESTABLISH SUB COMMITTEES. YES, THEY THEY'VE, THEY'VE DONE, THEY'VE DONE SEVERAL OF THOSE, HOWEVER, THEY'VE NOT GONE AND ACTUALLY FORMED IN AND NOTICE MEETINGS AND HAD SOME COMMITTEE MEETINGS, UH, CREATED THE COMMITTEE, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE CHAIRS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THEY'VE NOT REALLY FORMALIZED AND FORMED THOSE COMMITTEES. UM, I KNOW THEY'VE HAD SOME COMMITTEES FOR, UM, THE, UM, UH, THE DATABASE. UH, THEY DID IT, THEY, THEY DID A COMMITTEE FOR THE PRAY THAT IT COMMITTEE FOR THE FIREWORKS. AND I THINK THAT'S THE TERM THAT THEY, THAT THEY USE QUITE A BIT, UH, WHEN THEY USE THE WORD COMMITTEE, THEY JUST MEAN, WELL, WHO ALL IS GOING TO BE THERE? AND THEN WE CAN, WE CAN MEET UP THERE. BUT YEAH, THERE WAS NO, UH, THERE WAS NO FORMAL SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, FORMED FOR THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PROJECT AS OF YET. UM, WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE, UM, THE BRICK PROGRAM THAT, UM, MR. BROWN WAS, UH, WAS, WAS BEGINNING TO WORK ON AND WE'RE BRINGING BACK, UM, UH, WE'RE GOING TO PICK THAT BACK UP. AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT LIKE A SUBCOMMITTEE WILL DO REGARDING THE, UH, THE VETERANS COMMISSION. UM, BUT AS FAR AS THE PLANS AND THE, UH, THE POTENTIAL DESIGN, UM, I CAN, UH, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE IN, THEY'RE IN FULL SUPPORT AND I'M, UH, REALLY EXCITED THAT, UH, THE COUNCIL'S READY TO MOVE FORWARD FOR THIS. NO, I'M DEFINITELY EXCITED AS WELL. IT'S JUST REALLY MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE PARTIES ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. OH, THEY ARE. I CAN, AS THE STAFF LIAISON FOR THEM, I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU, IN FACT, SINCE YOU'VE REACHED OUT TO THEM, UH, THEY'VE BEEN CALLING ME SAYING, WHY IS MR. SHAW CALLING ME? I'M NOT SURE WHAT TO TELL HIM. UM, I DON'T KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT EXACTLY THE ANGLE IS OR, OR, OR WHAT THE SITUATION IS. UM, AND I DIDN'T GET BACK WITH, UH, MR. GRIGGS TODAY, YET, UM, LEFT AND MO LEFT HIM A MESSAGE SO THAT YOU MUST BE TALKING ABOUT THE EMAIL THAT, THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. UH, BUT YEAH, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE, UH, THAT THE MEMBERS THERE ARE EXCITED IF CONTRIBUTED QUITE A BIT TO IT. SO THEY, THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT'S, WHAT IT'S GOING TO POTENTIALLY BE AND POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE, BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET THE FINAL DESIGN AND THE SCHEMATICS VERSUS ALL STILL KIND OF A CONCEPT RIGHT NOW. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS BUDGETS, THEY PROBABLY, THEY PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THAT INFORMATION CAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING FOR YOU TO COUNCIL TO DECIDE, AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOT THERE YET UNTIL WE GET IT OUT TO BID. RIGHT. WELL, NO, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THOSE COMMENTS AND WHERE I WAS COMING IN WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEES IS EVEN REFERENCING ALL THE WAY BACK TO AUGUST 26TH OF LAST YEAR. AND THE EMAIL YOU SENT THE COUNCIL, UM, ACTUALLY TITLED SUBCOMMITTEES. IN ADDITION, GOING BACK, I'M REVIEWING THE 20, 19 AND 2020 MEETINGS, UH, SUBCOMMITTEES WERE MENTIONED OVER 30 TIMES WITH THE MILITARY VETERANS, INCLUDING MEETING MINUTES THAT THEY HAD OCCURRED. SO THAT WAS WHY I HAD REACHED OUT TO OUR LAW DIRECTOR AND OUR CLERK OF COUNCIL, BECAUSE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THERE HAS TO BE MEETING MINUTES TAKEN OF SUBCOMMITTEES. UM, AND THOSE HAVEN'T BEEN DONE. UM, SO I'M WONDERING WHY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSIONER STATING THAT THEY'RE IN SUB COMMITTEES, BUT WE'RE NOT HAVING ANY SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES. UM, I THINK THERE WAS ONE CASE WHERE THE CONCLUSIONS THAT ON MY PART. YEAH, NO, I THINK COLONEL JOHNSON TOOK SOME NOTES AT ONE COMMITTEE MEETING, UM, THAT THEY HAD A SUBCOMMITTEE ABOUT. UH, AND THEY'VE HAD, AS I SAID, THEY THEY'VE, THEY'VE FORMED A VARIETY OF THEM, UM, OR DISCUSSED A VARIETY OF THEM. BUT, UH, AS I'VE TOLD THEM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO FORMALLY MEET, THEN, YOU KNOW, LET'S ESTABLISH THE COMMITTEE. LET'S, UH, LET LET'S NOTE WHAT IT IS. UH, AND SURE THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS, BUT IT'S JUST, HASN'T BEEN FORMALIZED AS OF YET. UH, I THAT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING IS I WANT TO FORMALLY ESTABLISH, UH, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, UH, I WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO TAKE AN OFFSHOOT OF THINGS SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, FUNDRAISING, UM, EVENTS, UH, IN PLANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO HELP COORDINATE THAT, LEAVING THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT OF IT AND THE FACILITATION, THE BUDGETING OF IT, UH, YOU KNOW, RIGHTFULLY WITHIN THE CITY. SO, UM, SURE. AND JUST ONE LAST COMMENT, ROB, UM, I KNOW MR. GRIGGS HAD PROBABLY REACHED OUT TO YOU AS YOU USED TO, AS YOU STATED. HE DID. UM, THE REASON I REACHED OUT TO THEM WAS AFTER OUR WORK SESSION, WHEN I WAS TRYING TO FIND THAT DATE AND TIME, UH, BECAUSE NORMALLY WITH A LOT OF TOPICS [01:15:01] OF DISCUSSION, UM, THAT A COUNCIL WHO HAS A BOARD AND COMMISSION THAT THEY GET ADVICE FROM, UM, I WAS UNABLE TO FIND THAT MEETING. UM, AND USUALLY I GO BACK AND WATCH THOSE MEETINGS OR READ MINUTES, UM, ON DISCUSSIONS I E PLANNING, COMMISSION ARTS, AND BEAUTIFICATION, TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THE BOARD IS THINKING. SO I CAN ASK SOME QUESTIONS, FOLLOW UP OR EVEN REACH OUT TO THEM DIRECTLY. SO THAT'S WHY COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH. I WOULD TO MYSELF AND MR. GRIGGS AND, UM, AND I, I WAS JUST REALLY HOPING TO GET A DIFFERENT EMAIL THAN WHAT I GOT FROM HIM TODAY. UM, BUT, UM, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK AND THE CONVERSATION, AND I AM DEFINITELY EXCITED TO SEE THIS PROJECT MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. OKAY. SO I'VE GOT, UH, HANDS IN THIS ORDER FROM NANCY, DON, AND THEN GLENN. SO WE WILL HAVE DISCUSSION IN THAT ORDER, MRS. BIRD. YES. UM, HAVING WORKED WITH THE MILITARY FOR 30 YEARS, I KNOW THAT, UH, WHEN THEY BREAK OFF INTO SMALLER GROUPS TO WORK ISSUES, THEY GENERALLY CALL THEM SUB COMMITTEES. AND I THINK THAT WE ARE TALKING SUMMIT, WE ARE TALKING SEMANTICS HERE THAT IT WAS MADE VERY CLEAR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION THAT THEY COULD NOT HAVE SUB COMMITTEES, UH, THAT THEY HAD TO HAVE COMMITTEES THAT NOTES HAD TO BE TAKEN, BUT THEY WERE ALLOWED TO HAVE WORKING GROUPS WHERE THEY HAD A COUPLE, MAYBE THREE PEOPLE THAT WERE WORKING IN ISSUE ON THE SIDE. AND THAT DIDN'T VIOLATE THE SUNSHINE LAW, THE OPEN MEETING ACT THAT, AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO TAKE MINUTES, ALTHOUGH THEY WOULD, BUT THEY WERE ALLOWED TO MEET, TO KIND OF WORK JUST A FEW OF THEM TO KEEP ISSUES GOING AND TO PRESENT SOMETHING BACK TO THE COMMISSION. SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE A SEMANTICS ISSUE HERE ON THAT. AND ON THE SECOND ISSUE, I DON'T BELIEVE BECAUSE THE DESIGN IS SO EARLY THAT IT JUSTIFIES US. I'M DELAYING THIS ANY LONGER, BECAUSE AS YOU SAY, AS ROB SAID, IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION MEETING. AND, UH, ROB'S NOT GOING TO DON'T BELIEVE, DO ANYTHING MORE UNTIL IT GOES TO THEM AND EVERYBODY, UM, GIVES A HEAD NOD, BUT I KNOW FROM SOME OF THEIR WORKING MEETINGS AND FOR THE MEMBERS, I'VE TALKED TO THAT, THEY HAVE SEEN THIS DESIGN AND THEY REALLY LIKE IT. SO, UM, I, I SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS. THANKS NANCY. MR. WEBB. THANK YOU MIRROR. UM, JUST FURTHER COMMENT ON WHAT, UH, COUNCILMAN BERGE WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN THE DISCUSSION OF SUB COMMITTEES CAME UP. UM, IT WAS IN FACT, UH, JUST AS NANCY DESCRIBED IT, IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT, UM, A GROUP OF A COUPLE OF THEM, OR AM I BREAK OFF TO WORK ON SPECIFIC TASKS? REMEMBER THIS WAS MORE THAN JUST A MEMORIAL FOR THIS COMMITTEE. UH, THEY ARE, THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, UH, NANCY. YOU'LL PROBABLY REMEMBER THIS, BUT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, A PROGRAM TO ASSIST, UH, HUBER HEIGHTS, VETERANS GETTING, UH, BENEFITS, UH, PROGRAMS FOR, UM, UH, EVERYTHING FROM PRESCRIPTION DRUGS TO, UM, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, ANYTHING THE WORKING ON THE STAR SPANGLED CELEBRATION AND DEFINITELY WREATH LANG ALL THOSE THINGS THEY HAD. UM, THEY HAD NUMEROUS, UM, THINGS GOING AT ONE TIME. SO I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN BERGE THAT, UH, THE TERM SUB COMMITTEES MIGHT BE, UM, JUST A MATTER OF SEMANTICS BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP. UH, I WAS ACTUALLY IN ATTENDANCE, UM, WHERE THEY WERE TOLD NOW YOU NEED TO KEEP IT AT A MINIMUM. UM, BUT IF A COUPLE OF YOU WANT TO BREAK OFF AND GO WORK ON THIS PROJECT OR THAT PROJECT, THERE IS NO ISSUE WITH THAT. THAT'S ALL MERRILL. THANK YOU. THANKS. UH, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE COMMENTS ABOUT SEMANTICS. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. ON MAY 22ND OF 2019 IN THE MILITARY OF VETERANS COMMISSION, THEY ACTUALLY, UH, HAD MOTIONS AND SECONDS, UM, ON MULTIPLE COMMITTEES WITH VOTES, UH, THAT PASSED TO ESTABLISH THE COMMITTEES. THE COMMITTEES WERE, UH, CAUGHT. ONE GUY WAS CALLED A, MY BETS COMMITTEE. UH, ONE WAS PARADE COMMITTEE. ONE WAS THE VETERANS MEMORIAL COMMITTEE, AND THEN THEY KIND OF GOT HUNG UP FOR A MINUTE ON ONE CALL THAT OF A RESIDENTIAL VETERANS ASSISTANCE COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, BUT NO, THOSE, THERE WAS NO, THAT IS NOT SEMANTICS. THEY ACTUALLY HAD A MOTION, A SECOND, TOOK A ROLL CALL, VOTE AND ESTABLISH THOSE COMMITTEES [01:20:01] THAT THEY WERE NOT SUBCOMMITTEES. EXACTLY. BUT THEY CALLED THEM SUB COMMITTEES. THEY WERE VOTED ON ESTABLISHED. YES. IF I, IF I COULD LIKE SHOW ME IF I COULD JUMP IN REAL QUICK. UM, THESE, UH, THESE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE, UH, MILITARY VETERANS, KATIE, UM, WORKED VERY HARD TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND THEY CERTAINLY SERVE IN OTHER ASPECTS TOO. SO, UM, THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG. UM, I AGREE. I AGREE. RIGHT. SO LET LET'S, I, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT IF THERE'S GOING TO BE MEETINGS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO CONDUCT BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF THE COMMISSION, WHAT'S HAPPENED. AND I, SINCE I'M THE STAFF REP AND I'M AT THE MEETINGS, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENS. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY KIND OF INDIVIDUALLY, MANY OF THEM ARE ATTACHED TO OTHER VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS. AND THEN WHEN THEY COME BACK TO THE MEETINGS, THEY DISCUSS WHATEVER IT IS. SO THERE'S NOT REALLY MEETINGS OF ANY SUB COMMITTEES. UH, THEY'RE DESIGNING IT AS, UM, AND WE'VE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS, THAT THEY WHO'S VOLUNTEERING TO DO WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT DOING TYPE OF THING. AND WHAT YOU'RE THINKING OF IS THAT YOU'RE EXPECTING TO SEE THEM, UH, SHOW UP, HAVE A NOTICE, UH, HAVE MINUTES AND, UH, HAVE IT RECORDED AND ALL THOSE THINGS, BUT THEY'RE NOT MEETING, THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY HAVING A MEETING THERE, THEY'RE DOING THE WORK. AND THEN THEY'RE JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING LIKE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE VETERAN DATABASE, UH, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT IT JUST HAPPENS. AND MANY OF THE TIMES WHEN THEY FORMED A COMMITTEE, UM, PER THEIR CURRENT, AND I AGREED AS SEMANTICS BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THAT THEY'RE THINKING OF THE WAY THAT THEY WANT TO DO IT. AND IT'S NOT A COMMITTEE LIKE WHAT YOU ARE THINKING OF, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO SCHEDULE MEETINGS AND NOT DISCUSSING ANYTHING UNTIL THERE AND KEEP MEETINGS THEY HAVEN'T MET. SO, AND ON TOP OF THAT, THEY CAN FORM AS MANY COMMITTEES AS THEY WANT, BUT UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY MEET AND ESTABLISH A CHAIR AND NOTICE MEETINGS WITHIN THE COMMITTEE MIGHT BE VOTED ON AN EXISTING, BUT UNTIL THEY TAKE ACTION TO FORM IT AND YEAH, FORMALIZE THE COMMITTEE, THEN IT'S NOT. SO THOSE THINGS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED ALONG WITH SOME OF THE OTHERS, THEY NEVER REALLY CAME TO FRUITION IN THEIR TERMS OF THE SEMANTICS OF COMMITTEE WAS, HEY, WHO WANTS TO WORK ON THIS? AND YOU HEAR THEM TALK ABOUT THAT. WHO WANTS TO WORK ON THIS WITH ME? AND THEY MAY GET TOGETHER AND TALK INDIVIDUALLY, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY'RE THEIRS. I DON'T THINK THE OPEN MEETINGS, UH, LAW WOULD PREVENT ANYBODY FROM, YOU KNOW, NETWORKING AND WORKING ON TASKS TOGETHER OUTSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, DOING BUSINESS OF THE COMMISSION. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO BE CLEAR, I KEEP IN REGULAR COMMUNICATION WITH THE MEMBERS AND IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, HAVE ANY OF THEM, THEM HAD MEETINGS CIRCUMVENTING EITHER THE SUNSHINE LAW, THE OPEN MEETINGS LAW OR ANYTHING. UH, THESE ARE DEDICATED SERVANTS TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO THEIR CAUSES. AND THEY DO SO MANY THINGS OUTSIDE OF. I HAVE A HARD TIME KEEPING UP WITH THEM, TO BE HONEST, WITH ALL THE IDEAS THAT COME IN, YOU SEE HOW THE MEETINGS GO. SO YOU CAN SEARCH AND RE YOU CAN SEARCH AND RECITE TIMEFRAMES AND MEETING DATES AND HOWEVER MANY THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER. UM, AND, AND YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT, RIGHT, BECAUSE THEY'RE FACTS AND YOU HEARD THIS AND YOU RECITED ON THIS DATE. THEY SAID, THIS, THIS AND THIS. YES, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY HAVEN'T TAKEN AND FORMALIZED THAT COMMITTEE AND MET. THEREFORE THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE MINUTES BECAUSE IT NEVER REALLY WAS A COMMITTEE. THEY ACHIEVED THE OBJECTIVE AND THEY'VE MOVED ON SAME THING WITH THE MEMORIAL, WHICH IS JUST ONE COMPONENT. UM, WE HAVEN'T QUITE FORMALIZED THAT YET. THERE'S KIND OF BEEN A CHANGE. UH, ONE OF THE KEY MEMBERS THAT WAS INVOLVED WITH THAT IS NO LONGER WITH US. UH, WE'VE DISCUSSED IT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW TO REGROUP THAT, UM, I'VE WORKED INDIVIDUALLY WITH A COUPLE OF FEW OF THEM, UH, IN BOUNCING SOME IDEAS. UH, I'VE MET WITH THEM ADMINISTRATIVELY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO ON A REGULAR BASIS FOR PROJECT RELATED THINGS, UH, FOR THIS. SO, UM, YES, THE RULES, COMMITTEES AND MEETINGS AS WELL, NOTED, I'M THERE. I HELP GUIDE THEM. AND, UH, IF THERE ARE MEETINGS OUTSIDE OF THE REGULAR COMMISSION OF A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE FORMED AS A COMMITTEE, THEY WILL ELECT A CHAIR. THEY WILL NOTICE THOSE MEETINGS. UH, THERE WILL BE MINUTES KEPT, UH, REGARDING MINUTES. UM, SINCE THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHY THEY WEREN'T ON AGENDA QUICK, DIDN'T MEAN THEY WEREN'T AVAILABLE. IT'S JUST, UNFORTUNATELY, JAMIE DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS TO BE LINKED. REMEMBER WITH COMMITTEES IT'S NOT DONE BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE, EVERYTHING OUTSIDE OF COUNCIL IS DONE BY A VARIETY OF STAFF MEMBERS. SO THAT'S WHY THINGS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT ONE PERSON DOING, IT'D BE DIFFERENT IF WE TOOK ALL OF THAT INFORMATION [01:25:01] AND ROUTED IT THROUGH THE CLERK'S OFFICE, UH, THEN, THEN EVERYTHING WOULD PROBABLY BE THE SAME, BUT BECAUSE IT'S NOT DONE THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, SO THE MINUTES WERE THERE, THEY WERE FILED. BECAUSE FACT, IF YOU LOOK ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT ONE IT'S APPROVAL OF MINUTES, SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, READ INTO THE RECORD OF THE FOLLOWING ONE. SO, UM, SO THERE ARE MINUTES THERE, BUT NOW THEY'RE ALL UPLOADED. SO JUST TO ANSWER THAT MYSTERY OF HOW THAT HAPPENED, WE REALIZED THAT THEY WEREN'T ON THERE. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TAKING THE DOCUMENTS. AND LATER THAT DAY THEY'RE LINKED ON. SO THAT'S, AND BEFORE THIS GETS RUN WITH AND TWISTED, I'M NOT GOING PUSHING AGAINST THOSE COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE, THEY, I THINK PERSONALLY, I THINK WE DO A POOR JOB OF TRAINING OUR COMMITTEE AND COMMISSION MEMBERS ON HOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO RUN MEETINGS, BE INVOLVED IN MEETINGS AND WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. I DON'T THINK WE DO THAT VERY, YOU HAD MENTIONED A WHILE BACK THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD REVISIT OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND HOW WE HANDLE. AND I AGREE, 100%, I DON'T PUT IT ON THOSE PEOPLE. THESE ARE ALL GOOD PEOPLE STEPPING UP TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY. AND THIS BOARD IN PARTICULAR ARE HARD CHARGING INDIVIDUALS. I KNOW ALL OF THEM, UM, AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM. THIS IS JUST FOR ME, IT'S, IT'S, UH, JUST ANOTHER ISSUE OF, UH, I'M CONCERNED THAT OUR COMMITTEES AREN'T BEING ALLOWED TO WORK PROPERLY THE WAY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO. I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE CONCERNS THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MAYBE THEY SHOULD BE DOING, OR THEY'RE NOT GETTING THAT, THAT, UH, THAT OPPORTUNITY AND RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS LIKE THEY WANT, LIKE MANY OTHER COMMISSIONS COMMITTEES HAVE ASKED FOR, UM, AND BOARDS AND SURE. I'LL MAKE SURE THE NEXT MEETING THAT I WILL ASK THE COMMISSION, ALL OF THEM, SINCE THEY'LL BE THERE, IF THEY FEEL THEY'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET DONE WHAT THEY NEED TO GET DONE, IF THEY'VE NOT BEEN ALLOWED TO DO IT, OR IF THEY'RE NOT EDUCATED AND WE'LL MAKE SURE TO FILL AND CLOSE ANY GAPS FOR THAT PARTICULAR COMMISSION. UH, AND, UH, I'LL MAKE SURE TO, UH, TO COVER THAT. AND, UH, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER CONCERNS ABOUT ANY OF THE OTHER BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS, I'M SURE THAT WE CAN GET THE STAFF LIAISON TO, UH, TO MAKE SURE TO CHECK WITH THEM AS WELL. IF THAT, IF THAT HELPS OUT ANY, I WILL, I'D LOVE TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE YEAH, AGAIN, I, WE'VE HAD MASSIVE TURNOVER IN THE LAST FEW YEARS IN OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND THERE'S, THERE'S GOTTA BE A REASON FOR THAT. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT I'VE TAUGHT, I TALKED TO A LOT WHO GET FRUSTRATED AND THAT'S WHY THEY LEAVE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW. THEY STEP ONTO A COMMISSION THINKING THEY'RE GOING TO GET OUT THERE AND THEY'RE REALLY GOING TO WORK HARD AND DO A LOT OF THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT THEN THEY DON'T FEEL THAT THEY'RE GETTING THAT OPPORTUNITY IN THE END. IT'S MORE OF A, I GET TO GO TO A MEETING AND VOTE ON THINGS AND I GO HOME AND THEY DON'T FEEL THEY'RE GETTING THAT FULL ON INVOLVEMENT LIKE THEY WANT TO GET. AND I WANT THEM TO HAVE THAT INVOLVEMENT. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT ANYTHING AGAINST THOSE COMMITTEES. IT'S NOT ANYTHING AGAINST THIS PROJECT. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION AND FOLLOW IT CLOSELY. BUT I JUST, IT IS CONCERNING TO ME THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS, AND THEN WE SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE SEMANTICS. NO, THEY'RE NOT BECAUSE THEY ACT, THEY WERE ESTABLISHED YOUR EMAIL STATES THAT THEY DID HAVE A MEETING, AT LEAST ONE, UM, AND OR MEETINGS WHERE SCANNED MEETINGS WERE SCHEDULED FOR EVERY WEDNESDAY. THERE'S JUST SOME THINGS MISSING. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. AND THEY BOARDED, THEY MET, THEY MET THE ONE TIME AND, AND, UH, COLONEL JOHNSON, UH, DID KEEP NOTES AND SUBMITTED THOSE. AND THOSE WERE ATTACHED AS EMAILS AND READ INTO THE ACTUAL FULL, UH, FULL COMMISSION. UM, AND THAT WAS THE REPORT FROM THAT COMMITTEE INTO THAT. SO THERE WAS, THERE WAS THE ONE. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU, ROB. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. AND REALLY SAYING TO ANY OTHER COUNSELOR, HAS ANY MEMBER OF THE VETERANS COMMISSION REACHED OUT TO, TO YOU ROB, OR ANY COUNCIL MEMBER IN THIS MEETING AND EXPRESS THEIR DISPLEASURE ON ANY OF THE DESIGN OR CHANGE THE DRAWINGS, KIND OF THE INITIAL CONCEPT PLAN THAT, THAT, THAT WE'VE SHOWN, OR THAT, THAT WAS SONG THAT, THAT, THAT THEY SAW IN ONE OF THOSE WORKING GROUPS, HAS ANYBODY REACHED OUT TO ANYBODY ON THIS MEETING AND EXPRESS ANY DISPLEASURE WITH WHERE WE'RE AT? I'VE ONLY GOTTEN POSITIVE THINGS. OKAY. THANKS. SO HAS ANYONE RECEIVED ANY NEGATIVE FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF NOT LIKING WHAT THEY SAW OR NOT? I GOT NO NEGATIVE FEEDBACK, BUT BASED ON THE MEETINGS, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY PRESENTATION DRAWINGS. SO TO THE, TO THE, THE VETERANS COMMISSION, AND THAT'S JUST WATCHING THEM, I CAN'T, I CAN'T GO IN PERSON NOW. I USUALLY DO, BUT I CAN'T. SO I'M WATCHING THE ONLINE MEETINGS. I HAVEN'T SEEN A PRE, THE LAST THING I SAW WAS THE FEBRUARY 26TH MEETING. I BELIEVE IT WAS ROB. YOU HAD A DOCUMENT OF SOME SORT, IT LOOKED LIKE A DRAWING OF SOME SORT OF ONE, TWO MONTHS, BUT I KNOW THAT THE ONES THAT YOU SHOWED US WERE, WERE, WERE CREATED ON THE, WELL, AT LEAST THEY WERE DATED ON THE 28TH, WHICH IS TWO DAYS LATER. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THERE WAS. YEAH. THERE WAS TWO, THERE WAS TWO, THE ONES [01:30:01] THAT I HAD THAT NIGHT HAD AN EXTRA PARKING LOT BUILT IN. AND, UH, WE TOLD THEM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE INITIAL DESIGN, WE WEREN'T GOING TO NEED THAT. IT WAS ACTUALLY SITUATED WHERE THEY REVERSED THE MAIN MONUMENT AND THEN THE WALK OF THE WARS, THEY HAD THOSE SWITCHED IN INITIAL, AND THAT'S WHAT, UM, WE SHOWED THEM, HEY, THIS IS GOING TO BE SWITCHED, BUT YES, THAT'S, THAT'S THE NIGHT. UM, I'M GLAD YOU FOUND THAT, THAT DATE. SO FEBRUARY, WHATEVER IT WAS, THE 26 WAS IN FACT, THE DAY THAT THE COMMISSION WAS SHOWN THE, UH, THE CONCEPT DESIGN AND, UM, AND, UH, AND MADE AWARE OF WHAT WE WERE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. SO I'M GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT TONIGHT. THANK YOU. HAVE THEY BEEN GIVEN THEM ONES THAT WE SAW? YES. OKAY. I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT PRESENTATION AT THE VETERANS COMMISSION. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING. YEAH. WHAT, YEAH. WHAT YOU SAY, IT'S THE SAME, IT'S THE SAME ONE, EXCEPT THERE IS A, UH, THERE'S A, THERE'S A PARKING LOT. NOT IN IT. IT'S THE SAME ONE. THERE'S JUST A, THERE'S JUST A PARKING LOT. NOT IN IT. OKAY. OKAY. SAME, SAME THING. YEAH. MR. SHAW. YEAH. NO. MR. MAYOR, YOU HAD A RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION. THE ONLY RESPONSE THAT I RECEIVED WAS FROM AL GRIGGS, UM, WHO STATED THAT, UM, I, AND I BELIEVE HE MAY BE A BIT CONFUSED. HE BELIEVES THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TOOK OVER THE PROGRAM. UM, AND, UM, AND WE'RE MAKING ALL THE DECISIONS NOW. UM, LIKE I SAID, AT THIS EMAIL, I AM GOING TO FORWARD IT OUT TO ALL OF COUNCIL, UH, TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE CONFUSION AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE, UH, COMING FROM THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE. UM, BUT, UH, THAT'S THE ONLY RESPONSE I HAVE. UM, THE TWO OTHERS THAT WERE COPIED IN, I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THEM DIRECTLY. AND THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY EXACTLY TRUE BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY THE POSITION THAT THEY'RE IN. IT'S A, UH, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A PROJECT OF THE CITY IN TERMS OF THE SEMANTICS OF TAKING IT TO BID AND GETTING ALL THAT DONE HE'S 100% CORRECT. AND THAT'S EXACTLY A KIND OF THE MINDSET AND, UH, PASS OFF THAT THEY, UH, THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF, UH, EXCITING WAITING AND EXCITED TO PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THE FOLLOWUP COORDINATING EFFORTS THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER. UM, AND HOPEFULLY I DO GET THEM TO GET A SUBCOMMITTEE ROUNDUP, UH, TO, UH, TO BEGIN SOME OF THOSE THINGS LIKE SELLING THE BRICKS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT THEY'RE WELL-SUITED TO GET OUT AND NETWORK, UH, TO, UH, TO GET DONE. SO, UH, YEAH, HIS COMMENT OR, OR ARE RIGHT ON SPOT THAT THE, THE, UH, UM, UH, THE, THE DIRTY DETAILS OF THE REST OF IT IS, IS ON US TO, TO GET THIS LEGISLATION PASSED, UH, TO GET THINGS FUNDED, TO GET THINGS UNDERGROUND. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE CHARGED WITH MAYOR. YES. MR. LENS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, AS TO THE ISSUE OF TABLING, UH, I AM OPPOSED TO THAT, UH, WE'VE WAITED 12 MONTHS SINCE THE LAST LEGISLATION HAS BEEN PASSED. I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT AND GET THIS MOVING SO WE CAN GET SOMETHING DONE SOONER AS OPPOSED TO LATER. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS, MR. LYONS. I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. MAYOR SMART. UM, GETTING BACK TO THE VETERANS MEMORIAL, PLEASE, IF I MAY. YES. UM, AFTER ALL THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT, I'M EVEN MORE HAPPY THAT WE'RE FORMALIZING, UM, THIS PROJECT IN THE LEGISLATION THAT'S BEFORE US TONIGHT. UH, MY QUESTION FOR MR. SCHOMER WOULD BE A SCHEDULE. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN THE PROJECT COULD BE COMPLETED AND MAYBE FILL IN THE GAPS OF, UH, UH, WHEN YOU WOULD HAVE, UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES ON BOARD, WHEN YOU THINK THE BID PACKET WOULD BE BEFORE COUNCIL? J J JUST A ROUGH IDEA. YEAH, CERTAINLY. UH, IT'S GONNA TAKE, UM, PROBABLY FOUR TO SIX WEEKS FOR A, FOR DESIGN ENGINEERING, UH, AND THEN TO DEVELOP BID PACKETS. UH, SO WE SHOULD, UH, AND THEN BID BACK ITS DEVELOPMENT AFTER THAT ONCE THE, UM, SCHEMATICS AND DRAWINGS ARE DONE, UH, AND, AND FROM THERE ABOUT ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, MAYBE CALL IT A MONTH. SO IN ABOUT 60 DAYS, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET, UH, THE BID PACKET OUT IN RELEASED AND, UH, IN THE EYES OF SOME, UM, SOME CONTRACTORS, UH, TO BEGIN, UM, YOU KNOW, SKIMMING THROUGH AND GETTING SOME RESPONSES BACK, UM, FROM EVERYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, BARRING ANY SIGNIFICANT, MANDATORY SHUTDOWNS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AGAIN. OKAY. SO, SO A FINAL COMPLETION COULD BE APPROXIMATELY WHEN, YOU KNOW, I, I, UM, IT'S GOING TO BE DEPENDENT ON, YOU KNOW, COLD WEATHER MONTHS, BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT TO CONSTRUCT. IT'S GOING TO BE WAITING ON, YOU KNOW, CREATION OF MONUMENT PIECES AND ASSEMBLING OF THAT BASED ON, OF COURSE, I'M, DON'T KNOW HOW IT WILL BE DESIGNED AND PUT TOGETHER. SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO SAY THAT IT'S NOT A LENGTHY CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. IT'S MORE OF A WAIT FOR MATERIALS TO CREATED TYPE OF PROJECT DELIVERED AND ASSEMBLED. SO THE [01:35:01] GOAL AND THE BENCHMARK WOULD BE, UH, FOR THE DEDICATION ON MEMORIAL DAY, ALTHOUGH WE WOULD HOPE THAT FINAL CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE DONE, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY BEFORE THEN, UH, IF WE CAN GET THE BIDS OUT AND RETURNED, UM, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO THE END OF THIS YEAR AND UNDERWAY MEMORIAL DAY 2021, THAT YES, I, FOR THE DEDICATION OF IT, THAT WOULD BE IDEAL. YES, THAT'S, THAT'S THE GOAL. SO I'M HOPING THAT I GET GOOD NEWS FROM, IF WE GET THIS PASSED TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE HAVING CONVERSATIONS STARTING TOMORROW, UM, AND GETTING THINGS GOING, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN REALLY DEVELOP A SOLID TIMELINE AND, UM, AND, AND GET THINGS GOING, UH, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT TONIGHT. UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL KIND OF IN THE SAME POSITION THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WAITING TO LAUNCH SO WELL, MAYOR I SUPPORT, UH, THE LEGISLATION NIGHT WE'LL BE VOTING YES. AND WOULD URGE EVERY LOAN COUNCIL TO DO THE SAME. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO A MEMORIAL 20, 21 DEDICATION. THANKS, ROB. YOU'RE WELCOME, MR. SHAW, THERE WE GO. NOW HE'S FROZEN. NOPE, THAT THAT MUTE BUTTON IS SOMETHING ELSE. UM, I, NOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. WEBB GOES THROUGH. UH, MY, MY SYMPATHIES, UM, WHEN, WHEN THAT BID PACKET IS COMPLETED, UH, ROUGHLY AROUND THE END OF OCTOBER, UM, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD, UM, AS COUNCIL BE NOTIFIED, UH, THAT THAT BID PACKET IS OUT AND IS ACTIVE? UM, THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW VENDORS, UM, AND EVEN PREVIOUSLY BACK IN THE VETERANS, UH, UM, UH, PROJECT, UM, VOLUNTEER GROUP, UM, THAT, UH, MAY WANT TO BE PASSED ALONG SOME OF THAT INFORMATION. SO THOSE LEGAL, UM, OPEN, HONEST AND TRANSPARENT BIDS CAN BE PROVIDED. OH, ABSOLUTELY. UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WORD SOLICIT AND ADVERTISE AS A KEY WORD IN OUR BID PROCESS. AND WE HOPE TO SELECT, UM, YOU KNOW, VETERAN ORIENTED OR VETERAN OWNED COMPANIES FOR CERTAIN. SO, UH, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO ANY, UH, ANY PASS THROUGH OF INFORMATION THAT, UH, ANYBODY LISTENING CAN, CAN HELP PROVIDE WHEN THAT PACKAGE READY TO GET OUT. FOR SURE. THANK YOU A MAYOR. YES. MR. SCHOMER, WILL YOU ADVERTISE THE PROCESS SO WE CAN ENCOMPASS A RATHER LARGE AREA OF, UH, CONTRACTORS TO BID? ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S ACTUALLY A REQUIREMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, IN ORDINANCES AS WELL. SO YES, WE CERTAINLY WILL ADVERTISE, UH, THROUGH, THROUGH TRADE PUBLICATIONS THROUGH, UM, A WHAT'S IT CALLED A PUBLICATION OF GENERAL CIRCULATION, I THINK IS WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS. UH, BUT A WEBSITE AND TOO, WE YOU'D BE AMAZED AT THE RESPONSES THAT WE GET. EVERY TIME WE POST SOMETHING ON OUR WEBSITE, UH, BECAUSE THE, THE DIFFERENT TRADE ORGANIZATIONS, DAYTON BUILDER'S ASSOCIATION, I RE YOU KNOW, THEY MONITOR FOR THOSE THINGS AND, AND WE CAN GET SOME REALLY GOOD OUTREACH. SO ABSOLUTELY WE WILL CERTAINLY ADVERTISE IT CUSHION. UH, WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BEFORE WE GO, MAYOR YES. MA'AM ONE LAST THING I WANT TO THANK MATT TRUMAN WITHOUT HIM INITIAL EFFORTS ON, I'M NOT SURE WHEN THIS WOULD BE TAKING PLACE. SO MY HATS OFF TO HIM, I KNOW HE WAS VERY PASSIONATE AND VERY DEDICATED. AND, UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, UH, BEING THERE THE DAY OF THE DEDICATION. AND, AND I KNOW MATT, WILL I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT AS WELL? YES, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I'M JUST THINKING THE LAST DISCUSSION BEFORE MR. ROGERS CALLS MAYER. MS. BAKER HAS HER HAND UP MS. BAKER. SORRY. IT'S IT'S FINE. I JUST WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT MR. CAMPBELL SAID THAT WE SH I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS LEGISLATION TONIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. ROGERS CALDWELL, PLEASE. MR. WEBB. YES. MR. SHAW. YES. MS. BAKER. YES. MR. CAMPBELL. YES. THIS IS BURJ. YES. MR. OTTO. YES. MR. LYONS. YES. MR. HILL. YES. AND IT'S ADOPTED BY MOTIVATORS HERE. [12. City Official Reports and Comments] NEXT UP IS A NUMBER 12, WHICH IS CITY OFFICIAL REPORTS AND COMMENTS. MR. SHAW, DID YOU HAVE SOME COMMENTS TO MAKE REGARDING ONE OF THE, UH, UH, EARLIER ITEMS THAT I HAD, UH, MISS YOU ON? WHY DIDN'T, DIDN'T SEE YOUR HAND WAS RAISED. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. UH, LET ME GO BACK TO MY NOTES HERE. UM, OH, YES. UH, ON ITEM 10, A, [01:40:01] UM, THE ASSESSMENTS, UH, WHEN WILL THAT FUNDING BE RELEASED? WAS IT THE ASSESSMENTS THAT WE MOVED OR THE ASSESSMENTS ARE? THEY WENT BROKE ASSESSMENTS THE 200, 8,000. OH, OKAY. YEAH. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THE ASSESSMENT IS, UH, IS PLACED. AND THEN UPON TIME THAT THE WORK IS DONE, THE, UM, THE DEVELOPER IS CALL IT REIMBURSED, BUT IT'S NOT UNTIL THE, UH, THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE WORK IS DONE AND SIGNED OFF ON SINCE THE ASSESSMENT IS FOR THAT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE WORK. OKAY. ONCE THAT CONTRACTOR, YEAH. ONCE THE CONTRACTOR COMPLETES THE WORK AND THEY UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE COMPLETED SOME WORK UP THERE. UM, BUT GRANTED TO THIS TIME, YOU'RE SAYING NOTHING TO PREPARE, TO BE SIGNED OFF ON FIGURING OUT RIGHT NOW. I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THEY ENGINEER'S OFFICE HANDLES ALL OF THAT. YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. THERE HAS BEEN WORK DONE. THE ASSESSMENTS THAT ARE APPROVED, I BELIEVE ARE ON THE NEXT, UH, SECTION OR PHASE THAT'S THAT THEY'RE GOING TO START ON, BECAUSE I THINK THERE WERE ASSESSMENTS ON THE PREVIOUS ONE THAT WOULD HAVE, THAT WOULD HAVE COVERED THAT. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. I DID HAVE A RESIDENT REACH OUT AND ASK SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT. I DID PROVIDE THEM A AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD THIS WAS FOR THE PREVIOUS OR THE NEXT ASSESSMENT AS THAT PREVIOUS LEGISLATION WAS ON THE FIRST ASSESSMENT ON THE PARCEL WE PREVIOUSLY SOLD. YES. WE STILL WANT THEM BOTH. OR WE SOLD IT ALL AT ONCE, BUT THE PHASES ARE DIFFERENT SECTIONS. CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER CITY OFFICIAL REPORTS AND COMMENTS? SEE, YEAH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THROW OUT FOR CONSIDERATION, UH, THE THOUGHT OF WHEN ARE WE GOING TO START MEETING BACK IN PERSON AGAIN? UM, I KNOW SOME OF THE LEVELS HAVE DECREASED. I KNOW OUR SCHOOL BOARD MEETS IN PERSON WITH LIVE AUDIENCE. UM, I'VE BEEN TO EVENTS RECENTLY WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WITH HISTORICAL SOCIETY. UM, AND I KNOW WE CAN DO THE SOCIAL DISTANCING PROPERLY, AND THESE MEETINGS ARE JUST VERY KIND OF CUMBERSOME AND, AND ODD GOING THROUGH VIDEOS FROM USING, UH, I'D SURE LIKE TO GET BACK TO FACE TO FACE AGAIN WITH YOU GUYS. SO I THINK, UH, THERE, AS LONG AS THEY'RE, SO IN ESSENCE, IT WILL BE UP TO THE MAJORITY OF COUNTIES. THERE IS STILL A STATE OF EMERGENCY LEGISLATION THAT'S IN THE ORDER IN THE STATE OF OHIO. AND SO I WOULD SAY UNTIL THAT LEGISLATION IS EITHER LIFTED IN THE SAME GROUP OF EMERGENCY IS LIFTED FOR A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL IS WILLING TO COME BACK, UH, IN PERSON. THEN WE WOULD STILL BE DOING REMOTE MEETINGS BECAUSE THE EMERGENCY LEGISLATION WITH SAVE EMERGENCY LEGISLATION, PERMITS ALL PUBLIC MEETINGS TO BE HANDLED REMOTELY. SO, UH, UNTIL THERE'S FIVE MEMBERS WHO ARE WILLING TO COME TO, TO COME TO COUNCIL MEETINGS, AND THEN WE WOULD CONTINUE TO THEM THAT THAT IS THE POSITION THAT, YOU KNOW, SINCE THERE'S EMERGENCY LEGISLATION, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN'T FORCE ANYBODY SAYING I CAN'T MAKE ANYBODY COME HERE, HAS TO DO A RUN IS COMFORTABLE. I'LL SAY I'M READY ANYTIME. SO, AS LONG AS THAT LEGISLATION IS STILL ENFORCED BY THE STATE, AND WE HAVE A MAJORITY OF MEMBERS WHO PREFER TO BE REMOTE, THEN YOUR REMOTE MEETINGS WOULD CONTINUE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO ANY OTHER CITY OFFICIAL REPORTS THAT COMES? YES. MR. SHAW, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO LET ALL COUNCIL KNOW THAT I WAS HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE WITH THE WAYNE TOWNSHIP HEBREW HIDES, HISTORICAL SOCIETY, THEIR, UH, ANNUAL EVENT CELEBRATING MANY YEARS OF GREAT SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. UM, ADDITIONALLY, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAD THEIR FIRST, A SMALL BUSINESS MEETING, UM, UH, JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO. UM, AND, UH, TO MR. OTTO'S POINT AS THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS BEEN OPERATING FOR THE PAST TWO MONTHS AND IN PERSON MEETINGS, UH, WITH AUDIENCE SOCIAL DISTANCING, UM, I, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF DOING THAT. UM, I FEEL IT VERY DIFFICULT, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, ASK OUR COMMUNITY, OUR ESSENTIAL WORKERS TO GO TO WORK EVERY DAY AND OUR STUDENTS TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL IF WE CAN'T MEET IN PERSON, UH, WHEN EVERY OTHER CITY, ANY ENTITY IS MEETING IN PERSON. UM, ADDITIONALLY, UH, WAYNE HAS THEIR FIRST GAME OF THE SEASON. UH, THIS, UH, THIS FRIDAY IS AN AWAY GAME FOR SPRINGFIELD. UM, UH, MY SON WILL BE PLAYING IN THAT GAME. UH, HE'S GOT A FEW YEARS TO GO, UH, BUT, UH, HE, UH, HE HAS HIS FIRST GAME THIS WEEKEND OR THIS WEEK AS WELL. UH, ADDITIONALLY, UH, JUST GOT NOTICED THAT I'LL BE PARTICIPATING, UH, IN THE, I THINK TV AUCTION, UM, UH, COMING UP, UM, THAT WILL HAPPEN SEPTEMBER 9TH THROUGH THE 11TH. UH, SO HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY TAKES CARE OF THAT AND SUPPORTS [01:45:01] PUBLIC ACCESS TELEVISION, UH, WITHIN DAYTON AREA. UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON MY REPORT TODAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER CITY OFFICIAL REPORTS AND COMMENTS? OKAY. ONE THING THAT WAS ADDED MY CALENDAR, I WAS INVITED TO SPEAK WITH THE HEBREW ROTARY AND, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS A VERY GOOD AFTERNOON DISCUSSION AND TALKING WITH, UH, LOTS OF THOSE LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS, LOTS OF GREAT QUESTIONS, LOTS OF GREAT FEEDBACK ABOUT THINGS THAT THE CITY IS DOING. UM, LOTS OF, UM, EXCITEMENT ABOUT OUR BRAND PACKER MOBILIZATION, LOTS OF EXCITEMENT ABOUT, UH, OUR HOME SALES AND THE COMMUNITY, HOW THEY JUST CONTINUE TO SKYROCKET REALTORS. THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE OFFERS ON HOMES WITHIN 24 HOURS. SO THEY GO WITH THE MARKET. SO WE JUST, UH, OUR, OUR ROTARY CLUB LEADERS, WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. WE'RE DOING LOTS OF GREAT THINGS AND THEY WERE REAL HAPPY AND EXCITED, UH, WITH, UH, WITH THE DIRECTION THAT THE CITY IS HEADED AND IT WAS A PLEASURE TO SPEAK TO HER. SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE IT FOR MY COMMENTS. UH, [13. Executive Session] EITHER NUMBER 13, UNDER EXECUTIVE SESSION, THERE IS A NEED FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING. UM, MR. SCHOMER IS HERE IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM WITH ME. YOU'RE READY TO HAVE THAT TURNED OFF, SO WE'LL GET THAT DISCONNECTED. BUT, UM, MR. SO MR. MCDONALD, ARE YOU PREPARED TO HAVE THE ACTUAL EMOTION FOR THE EXECUTIVE SESSION? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE DOING? UH, I JUST NEED SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS PENDING OR THREATENED LITIGATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY. I HAVE A MOTION, SOME OF MR WEBB'S OR SECOND, SECOND LIONS LIONS. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON EXECUTIVE SESSION? OKAY. MR. ROGERS, MR. SHAW? YES. MS. BAKER. YES. MR. CAMPBELL. YES. THIS IS BURJ. YES. MR. OTTO? YES. MR. LYONS? YES. MR. HILL. YES. MR. WEBB. YES. AND THE MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION PASSES AND ALSO ROBIN NOTIFY US AS SOON AS WE HAVE THE LIVE FEEDS DISCONNECTED, AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE. OKAY. WE ARE LIVE. OKAY. SO IT IS CURRENT TIME, NINE 11, AND WE HAVE ADJOURNED EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THERE WAS NO OFFICIAL ACTION TAKEN. SO AT NINE 11, THIS REMOTE MEETING OF COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED. THANKS EVERYONE FOR PARTICIPATING. THANKS FOR WATCHING. AND WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME. THANK YOU. THANKS EVERYONE. HAVE A GREAT WEEK. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.