* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [ AGENDA CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION Remote Meeting July 15, 2020 12:00 P.M. ] [00:00:46] SO, UH, I'D LIKE TO WALK THEM ALL TAKING THE PICTURE. SO STEPHANIE TODAY, THAT WAS A LITTLE DIFFICULT TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER. UM, WE'LL JUST TAKE ROLL CALL. UM, SO IF YOU JUST ANSWERED AS A MIATA. YES. ERIC STEVEN. YES. YOLANDA STEPHENS. YES. RHONDA SOMEONE, YES. OKAY. UM, I'M JUST FILLING IN RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE CAN ELECT A CHAIR. SO, UM, THE FIRST ITEM UNDER ITEM THREE, NEW BUSINESSES, ELECTION OF A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, UM, WE'LL TAKE THESE INDIVIDUALLY. UM, AND HOW WE WOULD DO IT IS, UM, IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED AND, UM, BEING ELECTED AS THE CHAIR MEMBER, IF YOU'D, UM, INDICATE THAT INDUSTRY AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. AND THEN SOMEONE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO ELECT THE CHAIR BASED ON, UH, THE INTEREST THAT'S EXPRESSED BY THE MEMBERS. IS THERE ANYONE INTERESTED SERVING AS A MAN? WHO'S A CHAIR. THAT'D BE INTERESTING. JADA. OKAY. ALONDA I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN BEING A CHAIR AND, UM, IF NOT WORKING AS A COACH HERE WITH YOLANDA. OKAY. UM, TYPICALLY WE'D HAVE A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR. SO, UM, SO THAT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION TO DECIDE. UM, WE WOULD NEED A MOTION TO, UM, IS THERE FIRST OF ALL, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT'S INTERESTED? SO WE HAVE, UM, YOLANDA AND ROD HAVE BOTH EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN THE ROLE AS CHAIR. UM, WHAT SOMEONE LIKED TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, NOMINATE SOMEONE FOR ELECTION AS THE CHAIR NOMINATE YOLANDA, SINCE I'VE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN BEING THE CHAIR, OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? YOU CAN, YES. WE HAVE FAIRLY LIMITED MEMBERSHIP RIGHT NOW, SO EVERYBODY WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SECOND AND DO A DO VOTE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I DO MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE YOLANDA AS CHAIR OF THE, UM, CULTURAL, SO VARIOUS CULTURAL AND DIVERSITY CITIZEN ACTION COMMISSION. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, SELECT CHAIR. UH, I HEARD A SECOND. IT WAS THAT FOR ME? YES. OKAY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION SEEING NONE? I WILL CALL THE ROLL ON THE MOTION TO ELECT, UH, YOLANDA STEVENS IS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION. ERIC STEVENS. YOU VOTE YES OR NO? YES. YES. YOLANDA STEPHENS. YES. RHONDA SOMEONE, YES. MIA HONAKER, YES. OKAY. UM, WITH THAT, UM, THAT WOULD ELECT TO YOLANDA AS THE CHAIR. UM, SO WITH THAT, I WOULD TURN IT OVER TO HER TO, UH, DO THE ELECTION OF THE, UM, VICE CHAIR AND TO, UH, PRESIDE OVER THE REMAINDER OF THE MEETING PREPARED. I'M GOING TO BE HERE TO SUPPORT YOU. OKAY. UM, UH, OPEN UP OUR ARTICLE CHAIR, IT'D BE VICE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR. I NOMINATE RHONDA SOMEONE FOR VICE CHAIR, MIA, MIA, YOLANDA. [00:05:01] I WOULD, I WOULD NOMINATE MYSELF TO BE VICE CHAIR. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ME OUT TO, UH, SELECT RON RHONDA AS THE VICE CHAIR. UM, I WOULD NEED A SECOND TO THAT MOTION. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING? AWESOME. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. SO IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, THEN WE WOULD CALL THE ROLE. OKAY. DID YOU NOTICE, UM, YOLANDA STEVE COLLINS? YES. YES, YES. ERIC STEVENS, YES. OKAY. SO THAT, UH, THAT RESOLVES THE ISSUE OF THE CHAIR, THE VICE. SO, UM, WITH THAT RESOLVED, WE'D BE READY TO PROCEED, UH, YOLANDA TO ITEM THREE UNDER NEW BUSINESS ITEM THREE B THE INTERVIEW PROCESS AND SCHEDULE FOR THE COMMISSION VACANCIES. OKAY. SO, UH, WE'LL DISCUSS THE INTERVIEW PROCESS AND SCHEDULE WE'VE HAD 29 APPLICANTS, UM, WHICH I THINK THAT WE HAVE ALL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THOSE APPLICATIONS. SO WE NEED TO DETERMINE, UM, WHICH OF THOSE APPLICANTS WE WOULD INTERVIEW BASED ON THEIR APPLICATIONS AND COME UP WITH A SCHEDULE. AND IF I COULD JUST CLARIFY, WE DID HAVE A 29, UM, INITIAL APPLICATIONS, THREE OF THOSE WERE DETERMINED TO BE INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVED OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS. UM, AND SO UNDER THE CITY CHARTER, THEY WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR FULL MEMBERSHIP AS A MEMBER OF COMMISSION. SO OUR 26 BALLOT APPLICATIONS THAT WERE RECEIVED. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO HAS EVERYONE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS? YES. YES. DO WE HAVE A, A RECOMMENDATION YOU WILL LIKE TO PROCEED, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT SOME OF OUR PAST PRACTICES THAT WE'VE USED FOR OTHER BOARDS, WE DON'T ALWAYS GET THIS MANY, UH, OCCASIONS. UM, SO THAT'S ONE ISSUE. SO IT'S A MUCH LARGER NUMBER. UM, IN THE PAST, UH, THE TWO PROCESSES THAT ARE PRIMARILY BEEN USED, UH, THE FIRST IS THE BAND TO INTERVIEW ALL OF THE APPLICANTS AND TO SELECT FROM THOSE PEOPLE INTERVIEW. UH, THE SECOND OPTION REALLY WOULD BE TO, UM, SOMEHOW, UH, SCREEN AND RATE THE APPLICATIONS RECEIVED AND BASED ON THAT RANKING, UM, TO, UH, SELECT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS FROM THAT LIST AND TO JUST INTERVIEW THOSE INDIVIDUALS INITIALLY. SO, UM, KATIE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING FURTHER TO THAT POINT. NO, NOT AS HARD AS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS GO, CAUSE THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE. OKAY. SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO WRITE THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED BASED ON CRITERIA SET CRITERIA THAT, UH, THAT THE BOARD EXISTING BOARD SETS AND DETERMINE WHICH OF THOSE 26 THAT WE WILL INTERVIEW BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT WE SET FOR. OKAY. UM, KATIE, DO YOU HAVE SOME TYPE OF RANKING CRITERIA? I KNOW IT'S INDIVIDUAL TO EACH POSITION. UM, TYPICALLY WHEN YOU'RE INTERVIEWING FOR CITY EMPLOYEES, BUT IS THERE SOME TYPE OF FRAMEWORK THAT YOU HAVE THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IN ORDER TO, UH, TO DETERMINE SOME RANKINGS AND TO CREATE A SYSTEM FOR RANKING? WELL, WE TYPICALLY USE THE JOB DESCRIPTION, SO IT IS JOBS SPECIFIC, UM, DEPENDING ON EDUCATION. UM, AND I'LL BE, IT'S OBVIOUSLY THE SERVICE. SO IT COMES DOWN TO, UM, WHAT ARE YOUR CRITERIA? WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE YOUR FOCUS AREAS GOING TO BE, UM, AND KIND OF GO FROM THERE AS FAR AS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IN SOMEONE TO BE ON THIS BOARD, AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF GO THROUGH, UM, IF YOU WANT TO RANK THEM AND WE CAN CERTAINLY DO A RANKING PROCESS, HOW YOU WANT TO RANK THEM IN ORDER OF WHETHER IT'S EXPERIENCE DOWN TO THE FOCUS AREAS. SO I THINK FIRST, YOU GUYS NEED TO DECIDE [00:10:01] JUST, JUST AN OPINION IS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE FOCUS AREAS YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY THAT YOU WANT TO WORK ON. SO WE WILL DEVELOP THOSE CRITERIA BASED ON, UM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE, IN THE FUND, THE COMMISSION BASED ON ADS, IT'S WRITTEN, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR NOW. UM, I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SET A TIMELINE FOR, WELL, ONE OUR, OUR INTERVIEW PROCESS, AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT OF INTERVIEW QUESTIONS NOW. WELL, KATIE, LET ME ASK YOU THIS TOO. ARE, ARE THERE TYPICAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU USE, UM, FOR INTERVIEWING PEOPLE FOR THE COMMISSIONS AND WE REALLY WANT OUR QUESTIONS TO BE POINTED TOWARD THIS SPECIFIC, UM, COMMISSION. HOWEVER, I JUST WONDER IF THERE ARE CERTAIN DAYS, CERTAIN MONTHS YOU ASK ACROSS THE BOARD FOR YES. ACTUALLY TONY TAKES CARE OF THAT. PART OF THAT, JUST A FEW BRIEF QUESTIONS. I THINK IT'S FIVE OR SIX QUESTIONS, UM, THAT, BUT THEY'RE VERY GENERAL IN NATURE, UM, THAT WE USE ACROSS THE BOARD FOR OUR DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. UM, THEY'RE NOT, UH, COMMISSION SPECIFIC. UM, SO, OKAY, SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE QUESTIONS AND ALSO, UM, DEVELOP PERMISSION, SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, CORRECT. ALSO ALIGNED TO OUR CRITERIA, UH, THE COURSE OF THE SEARCH, THE WAY WE HAVE THE QUESTIONS FOR THE GENERAL BOARDS OF COMMISSIONS. UM, THERE'S ASKED FOR JUST SOME, UH, ELIGIBILITY QUESTIONS AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY RESIDE IN HUBER HEIGHTS, THEIR REGISTERED VOTER, THAT SORT OF THING. AND, AND THEN ASK THEM TO SHARE SOME BIOGRAPHICAL INFORMATION ABOUT THEMSELVES. THEN THEY'RE ASKED, UH, WHAT EXPERIENCES THEY'VE HAD, WHICH WOULD IT ASSIST THEM AT WORK, UH, WHAT SKILLS OR ABILITIES THEY WOULD BRING TO SERVICE ON A CITY BOARD OR COMMISSION, UH, WHAT THINGS THEY'D LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH AS A MEMBER OF ONE OF THE CITY BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS, AND WHAT DO THEY FEEL ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT NEEDS OF THIS COMMUNITY THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED BY THE CITY? THOSE ARE THE FORMULAIC QUESTIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN SEND TO US? I CAN, YES. OKAY. LET ME ASK YOU THIS ALSO WITH THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, I KNOW WHAT THE WHOLE COVID-19 SITUATION, SO WHAT THE, UH, WOULD WE WOULD DO THE INTERVIEWS IN PERSON OR VIA THIS, THIS FORUM TEAMS OR SOME SORT OF OTHER TYPE USES MOTHER OTHER TECHNOLOGY, HOW WOULD, HOW WOULD YOU DO THE INTERVIEWS, I GUESS IS MY QUESTION? HOW WOULD WE DO THAT UNDER A NORMAL PROCESS? UM, WE WOULD MEET IN PERSON TO DO THE INTERVIEWS, HOWEVER, UM, WITH THE CURRENT EMERGENCY ORDERS ARE IN PLACE. UM, THE CITY MANAGER IS ISSUED A ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER. THAT'S DIRECTED US TO WHEREVER POSSIBLE TO USE VIRTUAL OR REMOTE MEETINGS. SO, UM, AS LONG AS THAT'S IN EFFECT, WE'D PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT A VIRTUAL MEETING, UM, AND A VIRTUAL INTERVIEW. UM, AND THOSE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE DESIRES OF THE COMMISSION, THOSE INTERVIEWS COULD EITHER BE DONE. THEY'D HAVE TO BE DONE WITHIN A PUBLIC MEETING, BUT, UH, THEY COULD BE DONE PUBLICLY AS THE INTERVIEWS THEMSELVES OR THE COMMISSION COULD CHOOSE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH MEANS IT WOULD STILL BE IN THE PUBLIC MEETING, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC THAT THE INTERVIEW WOULD ACTUALLY BE HEARD BY THE PUBLIC. UH, BUT ANY DECISION MAKING WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS RECOMMENDATIONS OUT IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN, WE COULD SPLIT IT UP. I MEAN, LIKE IF WE CHOOSE, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, WE CHOOSE TOP 12 PEOPLE THAT, UM, THAT WE'VE COME TO A CONCLUSION OF DEBT. WE WANT TO INTERVIEW, UM, HAVING 12 INTERVIEWS AT ONE TIME IS A LOT. SO IF WE, IS IT, IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO TWO SEPARATE, LIKE SIX ONE DAY AND SIX ANOTHER TIME? IS THAT RIGHT? SURE. WE CAN DO THAT ON, UM, THE SCHEDULES OF THE MEMBERS. AND WE'RE GONNA WORK TO ACCOMMODATE YOUR SCHEDULES IN TERMS OF DOING THAT. UM, ONCE WE'VE IDENTIFIED A TIME FOR DOING SO, UM, OR TIMES THEN, UH, MYSELF AND, UH, THE DEPUTY CLERK COUNCIL, WE WOULD REACH OUT TO THE PEOPLE AND SCHEDULE THEM INTO THOSE SLOTS ON YOUR BEHALF SO THAT THEY WOULD BE AVAILABLE AND READY FOR THE INTERVIEW SCHEDULE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DETERMINED. [00:15:02] OKAY. SO TELL ME, LET ME JUST CLARIFY IT. YOU SAID THEY COULD BE DONE DURING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. THEY CAN BE DONE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE INTERVIEWS THEMSELVES, WHICH MEANS THAT THE INTERVIEWS WOULD NOT BE STREAMED OR RECORDED PUBLICLY, BUT IF YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS ABOUT WHO YOU'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL FOR APPOINTMENT, BASED ON THOSE INTERVIEWS, THOSE DECISIONS MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AND THAT PROCESS WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN. OKAY. SO WE WOULD HAVE A SEPARATE MEETING AFTER OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS IT WOULD BE PART OF THE SAME MEETING, BUT IT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. OKAY, GOT IT. OKAY. OR, YOU KNOW, IN SOME CASES WE'VE, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL'S DONE SOME INTERVIEWS PUBLICLY. UM, SO THERE IS A PROCESS BY WHERE WE COULD HAVE A MEETING AND PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING INTERVIEWED AS THEY'RE INTERVIEWED. SO IT REALLY COULD WORK EITHER WAY, TYPICALLY WITH MOST OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. UH WE'VE, WE'VE DONE IT IN A PRIVATE SETTING. AND, UM, IN THOSE SITUATIONS, WE'RE USUALLY DOING IT AS A STAFF DOING THE INTERVIEWS, NOT THE, THE ACTUAL COMMISSIONER BOARD. SO WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT HOLDING A PUBLIC MEETING FOR THAT PURPOSE, BECAUSE, UM, THAT'S ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THIS PROCESSES, UH, THROUGH THE COMMISSION. UH, EVERY TIME WE MEET TOGETHER, WE HAVE TO, TO, UH, HOLD A PUBLIC MEETING AS A PART OF THAT PROCESS, UH, TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. YEAH. ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE, SO LET'S SAY ONCE WE WE'VE DONE THE, UH, I GUESS THE RESUME SCREEN GOING THROUGH THAT RESUME SCREENING PROCESS, IF YOU WILL, TO, TO SELECT MAYBE THE TOP 12 OR SO CANDIDATES, WILL WE, THEN I GUESS, TURN THAT OVER TO YOU, THEN YOU THEN IN TURN, UH, WORK TO GO AND SCHEDULE WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE INTERVIEWS BASED ON OUR SCHEDULE. IS THAT HOW THAT WOULD WORK? YES, WE WOULD DO THE SCHEDULING, UH, FOR THE INTERVIEWS ON YOUR BEHALF. OKAY. BASED ON THE TIMEFRAMES THAT YOU WOULD PROVIDE, I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE, UM, AND THE APPLICATIONS AND THE RESUMES AND ALL THAT, THAT TURNED IN IS PUBLIC RIGHT. IS ALREADY. YEAH. AND THEN THAT THAT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION. UH, PEOPLE CAN SEE THAT THROUGH THE WEBSITE. UM, IT'S A PUBLIC RECORD. YES. I JUST, MY THING IS GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNLESS YOU'RE GOING IN FOR A SPECIFIC JOB POSITION OR ANYTHING, I THINK FOR A PUBLIC COMMISSION. UM, I KNOW A LOT OF ISSUES THAT PEOPLE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY IS NOT BEING TRANSPARENT. SO I THINK WHEN WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON SOMETHING THAT, UM, I THINK IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT OUR CRITERIA IS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE INTERVIEWS, UM, TO BE OPEN TO, UH, IN A PUBLIC MEETING SETTING FOR, BECAUSE THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITY. I WOULD, UM, I WOULD LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY IDEA OF NOT MOVING THOSE INTERVIEWS INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FORMAT. I AGREE 100%. AND AS I INDICATED, EITHER PROCESSES ACCEPTABLE, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PREFERENCE. OKAY. WHEN WOULD, GO AHEAD, RHONDA, TELL ME, IS THERE A MOTION NEEDED SO THAT WE ENSURE THAT THAT GETS DOCUMENTED IN THE MINUTES THAT WE WANT THOSE INTERVIEWS TO BE PUBLIC? I DON'T THINK EMOTION IS NECESSARY. UM, I THINK THAT, UH, IF THAT'S THE CONSENSUS AND, UM, THAT'S A DETERMINATION THAT THE GROUP HAS MADE BUSINESS THE COMMISSION, UH, THEN THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT STAFF WOULD FOLLOW IN TERMS OF, UH, IMPLEMENTING THE INTERVIEW PROCESS. OKAY. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. SO, UM, THE, THE ONLY OTHER THING WITH THE RANKING AND, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING THOSE MAJORS, UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE WORKED ON BY THE GROUP OUTSIDE OF A PUBLIC MEETING. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD EITHER HAVE TO BE DONE TODAY OR IN A SUBSEQUENT MEETING, UH, TO, TO BE ABLE TO, UH, TO MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS AND AGREE TO THOSE RANKINGS. OKAY. WELL, YOU HAVE TO COME HOME. YEAH. SO NOW PRODUCT PREPARED TO DO THAT RANKING TODAY. SO, [00:20:01] YEAH. WHICH IS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE TOTALLY PREPARED TO DO THAT TODAY. YEAH. I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE PREPARED TO DO THAT TODAY. UM, SO WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO SET UP ANOTHER MEETING TO DISCUSS THE CRITERIA, OR WE CAN, UM, CAN WE DO THE CRITERIA DISCUSSION NOW WHILE WE'RE ON HERE? AND THEN SINCE WE HAVE THAT, THEN WE'LL HAVE THAT CRITERIA AND THEN WE CAN DO A SECOND MEETING TO DISCUSS OUR RANKINGS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE, RATHER THAN HAVING A SECOND MEETING TO DISCUSS THE CRITERIA AND THEN ANOTHER RANKING MEETING? YOU MEAN THE RANKING? ARE YOU REFERRING TO RANKINGS FOR THE APPLICANTS, RIGHT? NO. I MEAN, IF WE, UM, IF WE DISCUSSED RIGHT NOW COMING UP WITH A CRITERIA THAT WE CAN USE TO RANK THE APPLICANTS, YOU CAN DO THAT TODAY. AND THEN WE CAN SET ANOTHER MEETING TO DISCUSS OUR RANKINGS AND THEN COME UP WITH WHOEVER NUMBER THAT WE CHOOSE TO INTERVIEW. I THINK THAT WE CAN DISCUSS SOME OF THE, THE CRITERIA THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FOR THE COMMISSION. ABSOLUTELY. SO TO DISCUSS SOME OF THOSE CRITERIA, I WOULD THINK THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO SHOWS, WHO HAS SOME EXPERIENCE, UM, WITH DEALING WITH RACIAL, CULTURAL DIFFERENCES. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR EXPERIENCE WITH THAT, AND WHAT ELSE WOULD WE BE LOOKING FOR? I THINK, UM, LIKE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, BUT ALSO, UM, VOLUNTEERING OR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY BEING, UM, THAT WOULD RULE YOU OUT, BUT THAT WOULD BE WHAT WOULD NOT HAVE MANDATORY QUALIFICATION? LIKE WHAT DO THEY CALL IT A PREFERRED QUALIFICATION, BUT NOT NECESSARILY, UM, WHERE IT'S, UH, IT HAS TO BE LIKE, UH, THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE COMMUNITY EXPERIENCE. I DON'T WANT IT TO BE A MANDATORY QUALIFICATION. I'D RATHER IT BEING A PREFERRED ONE, BUT AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M AT JUST LIKE AN OPTIONAL. I LIKE TO SEE THAT EXPERIENCE BECAUSE IT JUST LETS ME KNOW THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY ARE WILLING TO, UM, TO WORK. SO, YEAH. AND I THINK PASSION, IF EDUCATIONAL, UM, IF THERE SOME PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE, EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE, MAYBE IN LIEU OF IF THEY'RE YOUNGER OR POSSIBLY HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY DIVE INTO COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, UM, DEFINITELY THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER AS WE LOOK TO DIVERSIFY THE COMMISSION. UM, WE WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN ARRAY OF PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET VARIED PERSPECTIVES. RIGHT. UM, WE WOULD DEFINITELY WANT A DIVERSE COMMISSION SO THAT WE CAN DRAW ON THE DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES OF EVERYONE BECAUSE THAT'S, WHAT'S GONNA BRING THIS DRUG TO THIS COMMISSION. I THINK SOME OF THE YOUNGER PEOPLE ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE THAN MAYBE SOME OF US. UM, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE AT LEAST GET ONE, IF NOT, YOU KNOW, TO YOUNGER PEOPLE, MILLENNIAL GENERATION XERS, OR I'M SORRY, GEN Z YEARS. UM, BECAUSE OFTENTIMES THEY DO FEEL THAT THEIR VOICES ARE NOT HEARD. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, GENDER CULTURE AND GENERATIONAL DIVERSITY. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE, FOR ME, THAT WOULD BE MY TOP, TOP THREE CRITERIA. THEY'VE ALREADY MET THE, I GUESS, THE, THE MANDATORY QUALIFICATION, WHICH IS RESIDENCY THAT YOU GAVE US, EVERYBODY WHO WAS VALID, WHO MET THAT, UM, WHO CLEARED BACKGROUND CHECKS, WHO CLEARED, UM, WHO ARE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THEY CLEARED THE BACKGROUND CHECKS? NO, WE HAVEN'T, WE DON'T DO THAT. OR WE HAVE A FINAL RECOMMENDATION AND THEN WE WOULD RUN THE BACKGROUND CHECKS AT THAT POINT, UH, PRIOR TO PASSING THOSE ONTO COUNCIL. OKAY. CAUSE THERE IS A COST ATTACHED TO THE BACKGROUND CHECK, SO WE WOULD WANT TO DO IT FOR EVERYBODY. SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN COME UP WITH, IS THERE A NUMBER THAT [00:25:01] WE WANTED TO DO WITH LIKE, DO WE WANT TO DO HALF OF THAT NUMBER? LIKE, DO WE WANT TO COME UP WITH THE TOP 12, TOP 13? UM, AND THEN, UM, COME UP WITH THAT, THAT'D BE A SMALL NUMBER TO WORK WITH TO DO THAT. I THINK ABOUT 12 PEOPLE, 10 TO 12 PEOPLE WOULD BE GOOD. OF COURSE NOT CUTTING THAT OFF. THAT'S NOT HARD AND FAST, RIGHT? IF THERE ARE PEOPLE FOR OVER THAT A LITTLE BIT, THEN THAT'S FINE AS WELL. THE OTHER THING THAT I WILL SAY JUST FROM SITTING ON OTHER COMMISSIONS, I THINK ONE THING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE TO MAKE A CRITERIA IS PEOPLE HAVE TO HAVE A WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. THEY HAVE TO BE PRESENT WHEN WE HAVE FUNCTIONS WHEN WE HAVE INITIATIVES, BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE, UM, THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL WANT TO SERVE ON A BOARD, BUT THEN NOT REALLY HAVE THE COMMITMENT LEVEL NECESSARY. SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR RESUME BUILDERS. WE WANT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO ROLL THEIR SLEEVES UP AND THAT WANT TO DO THE WORK. UM, AND OUR COMMISSION IS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE HANDS ON AND WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA NEED PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE WILLING WORKERS. SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO START. YES. RIGHT. I THINK THAT'LL, THAT SHOULD BEAR OUT AS WE, ONCE WE, UH, IF YOU WILL DOWN SELECT TO THE 12 OR SO. RIGHT WHEN WE DO THE INTERVIEWS AND THAT MAYBE THAT'LL BEAR OUT IN TERMS OF THEIR COMMITMENT TO BEING ABLE TO BE PRESENT AND BE ABLE TO SERVE AND, AND, UM, BE ACTIVELY INVOLVED. RIGHT, RIGHT. RIGHT. I THINK THAT, THAT WILL, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. I'M PART OF OUR QUESTIONING PROCESS. RIGHT. I WOULD SAY A GOOD VIEW QUESTION. YEAH, EXACTLY. YEAH. I THINK RIGHT NOW, REALLY TALKING ABOUT JUST THE, REALLY MORE OF THE RESUMES FOR CRITERIA RIGHT. IN TERMS OF WHAT WE SEE ON THE RESUME, THE APPLICANT, RIGHT. THE APPLICATION PIECE THOUGH. BUT, UH, I THINK AGAIN, CAPTURED ETHIC, YOU ALL CAPTURED, UH, SOME OF THE MORE IMPORTANT CRITERIA THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AGAIN, YEAH. THIS IS A DIVERSITY COMMISSION, SO WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS DIVERSE IN ITSELF RIGHT. IN TERMS OF, LIKE YOU SAY, GENDER, UM, CULTURE, UM, YOU KNOW, GENERATIONAL TYPE OF THING. SO YEAH, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE IMPORTANT, BUT IT MAKES ME CONSIDER THAT AS WE GO ON OUR TOP 12, BUT THAT'S THE, WHAT GONNA STAY WITH, I MEAN, I THINK THOSE TWO ARE THE MAIN CRITERIA IS THAT WE HAD PUT DOWN WOULD WHAT WE WOULD, WOULD BE, UM, THE START TO GUIDE US TO CHOOSE THOSE, THAT TOP 12. AND THEN WE COULD BRING ON THAT TOP 12 AT OUR NEXT MEETING. AND THEN THAT WOULD, UM, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO A RANKING THING. AND I DON'T KNOW. UM, IS IT CA IS IT CATHERINE? I DON'T KNOW KATHERINE, IF YOU HAVE, UM, I KNOW WHEN WE DO SEARCH COMMITTEES AT WORK, WE HAVE LIKE A SPREADSHEET THAT THEY GIVE US AND THEN YOU RANK HIM AND, AND A NUMBER. AND SO THAT WAY WE ALSO HAVE IT IN WRITING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR POLICY IS. I KNOW LEGALLY WE, AS A PUBLIC UNIVERSITY HAVE TO SUBMIT EVERYTHING WRITING. WE DO THIS INTERVIEW PROCESS AND KEEP THAT ON RECORD, BUT I DON'T KNOW, DID WE DO THAT WITH THE COMMISSION POSITIONS AS WELL? SO SHOULD WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT WITH CONDITIONS? SO WE DON'T HAVE TO, UM, I DIDN'T KNOW, WHAT WAS THE, UM, THE LEGALITIES OF ALL YOUR SEARCHES AND STUFF VERSUS THE SEARCHES THAT I'VE BEEN USED TO? SO I, I, UM, I LIKE, I DON'T HAVE AN ADDITIONAL, UM, THEN THOSE THREE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR MYSELF FOR CRITERIA AND ON THE APPLICATIONS. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS SO RIGHT. SOMEONE WILL MEET NEXT TIME. SO THE NEXT TIME WOULD BE AT THAT POINT WHERE WE ACTUALLY DO THE, UH, SELECTION RIGHT. OF THE 12 THAT WE WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH MY, SO I GUESS, WHAT IS THAT PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE TO ACTUALLY DO THAT? I MEAN, IS IT MORE, I KIND OF THINK WITH MY 12, YOU COME IN WITH YOUR 12 AND THEN WE JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MY 12 AND THEN WE SEE AGAIN, AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE COMPARE THOSE LESS THAN, THAN CHOOSE BASED UPON OUR INITIAL LIST OF 12. I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO BEST DO THIS. WHEN WE MEET NEXT TIME, WHAT IS THE PROCESS? ARE WE JUST GOING TO SIT THERE AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT EVERY INDIVIDUAL? I MEAN, WE DISCUSSED THE CRITERIA AS WELL. NOW WE AT LEAST LOOK AT EACH OF US CAN START LOOKING AT THE RESUMES OR LOOKING AT THE APPLICATIONS AND MAYBE COMING UP WITH OUR HOME TOP 12. RIGHT. AND THEN MAYBE WHEN WE COME TOGETHER, GAVE ME BRANDON TOP 12. AND THEN FROM THERE, DECIDE, I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST, AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK. SO THEN WE DO MEET NEXT TIME THAT IT'S PRODUCTIVE, THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS AND MAKE THE SELECTION, JUST LOOKING AT THE THOUGHTS ON [00:30:01] HOW TO BEST DO THAT. MY, MY EXPERIENCE IN PAST, UM, SEARCH COMMITTEES, WE, BUT WE WOULD, EACH MEMBER WOULD COME IN WITH THEIR, LIKE THEIR TOP 10, TOP 12, THEIR TOP NUMBERS. AND THEN WE WOULD GO THROUGH THAT LIST COMPARING EVERYBODY'S THING. AND THERE'S USUALLY A GOOD CHUNK. THAT IS THE SAME NAME ON EACH LIST. SO I WOULD SAY LIKE, IF WE COME UP WITH THE TOP SIX PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE SAME OR SEVEN PEOPLE THAT ARE ON ALL OF OUR CORE LIST, THOSE ARE DEFINITELY ONES YOU'LL BRING IN. AND THEN TO FILL UP THE REST OF THE SPOTS, WE CAN THEN DISCUSS OUR OTHER OPTIONS THAT THAT MAY BE ON A LIT ON OUR, MY, LIKE ON MY LIST THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE ON YOUR LIST OR THAT YOU FEEL THAT SHOULD BE INTERVIEWED. AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS THAT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO NARROW, NARROW THAT DOWN RATHER THAN HAVING EACH OF US DISCUSS 12 PEOPLE, YOU KNOW? RIGHT. SO WE WILL RANK THEM BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT WE SET, WHICH SO WE WERE LOOKING AT THEIR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. I WROTE DOWN, UM, IF IT WOULD HELP, UM, EXPERIENCE WITH DEALING, UH, OR EXPERIENCED DEALING WITH RACIAL AND CULTURAL DIFFERENCES, VOLUNTEERING AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UH, PROFESSIONAL AND EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE AND GENDER CULTURAL AND GENERATIONAL DIVERSITY. AND I THINK WHAT I MENTIONED IN THE WILLINGNESS TO SERVE, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT THROUGH THE REVIEW OF THE APPLICATIONS, BUT THAT MIGHT BE WANTING TO INCLUDE IN THE INTERVIEW QUESTIONS ITSELF. RIGHT. SO WE'VE GOT FOUR CRITERIA. SO WE CAN GO THROUGH THE APPLICATION RATE BASED ON, UM, A SCALE OF ONE TO FIVE, HOW WOULD RATE THAT PERSON? ONE BEING LEAST AMOUNT OF AREA I WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HAVE THE CLIENTS GET RANK ORDER THOSE APPLICATIONS COME UP WITH OUR TOP, SAY TOP, WE'LL COME UP WITH OUR TOP 12. AT LEAST WE WERE READY. WE WERE PREPARED WITH 12 INDIVIDUALLY FOR EACH MEETING AND SEE WHERE WE'RE OVER LAPPING AND AGREEING AND DETERMINING GOOD INTERVIEW. AND I CAN PREPARE A BANKING FORM OR SCORING SHEET THAT I CAN PROVIDE TO YOU GUYS TO USE INDIVIDUALLY AS YOU GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, BECAUSE FOUR CRITERIA LISTED. THAT'D BE COOL. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN. SO, UM, WHAT IS OUR TARGET? I THINK THAT WE NEED TO ESTABLISH A TARGET DATE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS INTERVIEW PROCESS VINYL. ARE WE SAYING, UM, IS THE QUESTION, WHEN DO WE WANT TO RECONVENE TO ACTUALLY GO OVER THE TOP 12? UM, WHAT WILL THE CRITERIA, I THINK I'M TRYING TO WORK BACKWARDS. SO IF WE HAVE A TARGET THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SET FOR WHEN WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE START BASED INTERVIEWS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, OR, YOU KNOW, AND THEN KIND OF WORK BACKWARDS FROM THERE. SO WHAT IS REALISTIC FOR OUR THAT'S, WHAT'S TYPICAL WITH COMMISSIONING AS YOU START IN THE COMMISSION, WHAT WHAT'S TYPICAL WHEN YOU START A NEW ONE TIMELINE FOR ACTUALLY GETTING A COMMISSION, UH, FULFILL, THEY CAN BILL, IT REALLY VARIES. UM, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS UNUSUAL AND THAT WE HAVE SUCH A LARGE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS. UM, A LOT OF TIMES FOR SOME OF THE COMMISSIONS, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, STRIVING TO GET IT OFF APPLICATIONS, EVEN FILL THE VACANCIES THAT EXIST. SO THAT'S A GOOD THING TO HAVE. I, I BELIEVE IN THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INTEREST AND THIS HAS REACHED A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO'VE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN PARTICIPATING. UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, PUT A SET TIME, BUT BASED ON THE PAST OF WHAT WE'VE DONE, CAUSE THERE'S NOT A DIRECT COMPARISON, BUT, UM, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE IF YOU'RE GOING TO INTERVIEW SAY 12 PEOPLE. UM, I WOULD SAY THAT YOU LOOK AT SOMEWHERE [00:35:01] BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF QUESTIONS YOU DEVELOP, UM, THE STANDARD QUESTIONS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PROBABLY BETWEEN 15 MINUTES TO HALF AN HOUR PER INTERVIEW, UM, LET'S GO ON THE HIGH SIDE SAYING IN HALF AN HOUR, YOU KNOW, TO ALLOW FOR SOME TURNAROUND AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO YOU'RE TALKING THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST SIX HOURS INVOLVED JUST IN THE INTERVIEWS, UM, AND THEN THE FOLLOWUP DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE INTERVIEWS. SO, UM, AND THEN ANOTHER MEETING BEFORE THE INTERVIEWS TAKE PLACE, UH, TO DETERMINE WHO'S GOING TO BE INTERVIEWED, UM, AND TO DEVELOP THE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE, UH, PUT TOGETHER TO HAVE A STANDARDIZED SET OF QUESTIONS FOR THE INTERVIEW PROCESS. SO, UM, THAT'S ALL GOING TO TAKE TIME. AND THEN IN BETWEEN DEFINING THE 12 AND, UM, SETTING THE INTERVIEW QUESTIONS, WE'RE GOING TO NEED A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO CONTACT THE INDIVIDUALS AND GET THEM SCHEDULED AND ALLOW THEM ENOUGH ADVANCE NOTICE TO, YOU KNOW, GET THAT INTERVIEW ON THEIR SCHEDULE AS WELL. SO, UM, I MEAN, I THINK REALISTICALLY YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, THREE TO FOUR WEEK PROCESS FROM THIS POINT, WHEN IS THE NEXT CITY? THE COMMISSION WORKS COUNCIL MEETING IN AUGUST? IS IT THIS 17TH COUNCIL MEETINGS IN AUGUST WOULD BE ON THE 10TH AND THE 24TH, BUT ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO GO BEFORE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL NEEDS TO GO THROUGH THE WORK SESSION THE WEEK BEFORE. SO, UM, WE WOULD, I MEAN, JUST TO MAKE THE COUNCIL MEETING FOR OUR AUGUST THE 10TH, UM, EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE TO BE WRAPPED UP. I THINK A QUESTION THAT, FOR THAT ONE. YEAH. I, I, EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE TO BE WRAPPED UP AND IN PLACE BY LIKE THE FIRST WEEK OF AUGUST, UM, WHICH IS JUST, YOU KNOW, ABOUT TWO AND A HALF WEEKS AWAY. AND IF YOU SHOW US FROM AUGUST THE 24TH, THAT'S PROBABLY MORE REALISTIC. YEAH, WELL, MAYBE WE CAN, UM, I WOULD SAY WE CAN MEET NEXT WEEK WITH OUR RANKINGS AND THEN DISCUSSION OF INTERVIEW QUESTIONS AS IT SHOULD INGESTION. AND THEN, THEN FROM THERE WE CAN THEN LOOK AT DOING INTERVIEWS THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS OF AUGUST. THAT'LL GIVE PEOPLE A COUPLE OF WEEKS TIME TO ADJUST THEIR SCHEDULES, YOU KNOW, AND THEN MAYBE, AND THEN WE CAN MEET AFTER THAT AND THEN MAYBE HAVE THEM, UM, READY TO THE WORK SESSION THAT 17TH, WHICH IS I THINK THE WORK SESSION ISN'T IT, OR THE WEEK BEFORE THE 24TH. RIGHT. AND THE WORK SESSION WOULD BE ON THE 18TH ON THE EIGHTH. SO MAYBE WE, THE ITEMS WOULD HAVE TO BE FINALIZED THE WEEK PRIOR TO GO OUT IN THE PACKET FOR COUNCIL. SO OUR TARGET DATE WOULD BE AROUND, UH, FOR THE 24TH MEETING. YOU HAVE EVERYTHING WRAPPED UP BY AUGUST 12TH OR 13TH, IT'S TO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. AT THAT POINT, I DON'T DO THAT. SOMETHING DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A SCHEDULE, BUT THE REST OF THE COMMISSION BE ABLE TO FOLLOW AUGUST 12TH. SO WE MEET NEXT WEEK TO FINALIZE THE QUESTIONS. YOU MAY HAVE TIME TO, WITH INDIVIDUALS TO SCHEDULE. WE NEED TO DETERMINE FOR OUR CALENDARS WHEN WE CAN ENTER. SO I WAS THINKING LIKE THE WEEK OF THE THIRD, THE WEEK OF THE WEEK, SO WE CAN HAVE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS IN, RIGHT? YEAH. IF YOU DO SOMETHING NEXT WEEK, IDENTIFY THE QUESTIONS, SET THE INTERVIEW TIMES AND HAVE THE RANKINGS. UM, THEN WE COULD DO INTERVIEWS THE WEEK OF JULY, THE 27TH AND AUGUST THE THIRD AND STILL BE ON THAT TIMELINE, DUDE, I WOULD GIVE YOU TWO, FOUR WEEKS FOR, UM, THE INTERVIEWS. RIGHT. AND JUST SO I'M CLEAR, RIGHT? SO THE INTERVIEWS, EVERYTHING WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS, RIGHT. IS THAT MY UNDERSTAND? I MEAN, NO. WELL, WELL TRY TO ACCOUNT, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, UM, WORK OBVIOUSLY WITH THE FOUR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION SCHEDULES. UM, BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH APPLICANTS THAT SOMETIMES, UM, THERE MAY BE WORKING DURING THE DAY AND SUCH ALSO. SO, UM, I THINK IT CREATES A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH THEIR MEETINGS AS FAR AS PEOPLE BEING [00:40:01] ABLE TO CONNECT MAYBE THEN BEING PHYSICALLY PRESENT. UM, BUT, UM, KATIE AND I ARE GOING TO TRY TO WORK TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT FITS EVERYONE ELSE'S SCHEDULE THE BEST. I KNOW MY SCHEDULE STARTING AUGUST IS GOING TO BE I'M I'M I'M ON LIKE LIMITED HOURS RIGHT NOW FOR THE MONTH OF JULY, BUT MY SCHEDULE STARTING AUGUST AS FULL BLOWN, 40 PLUS HOURS A WEEK DURING THE DAY, CAUSE WE'RE GETTING READY TO FOR FALL SEMESTER. SO, UM, I WOULD, UM, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE EVENING AFTER FIVE WOULD BE MY, THE IDEAL TIMES I CAN MEET. YEAH, I AGREE. IT WILL BE AS WELL. WE'LL BE BASHED RIGHT IN THE, UH, IN THE EVENING IF WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN. RIGHT. BECAUSE OF MY SCHEDULE. UM, YEAH. I WORK WITH MY PAD AND THAT JUST ADDED VARIOUS, I WAS FORTUNATE TO BE A LITTLE BIT THIS TIME, BUT YEAH. BUT YEAH, JUST VARIOUS MEETINGS AND THINGS THAT I HAVE THROUGHOUT THE DAY. AND OF COURSE, WITHIN ALL OF THIS, I HAVE A COUPLE OF ALL DAY MEETINGS SCHEDULED, UH, THIS ON THE FIFTH AND SIXTH. SO THAT'S FINE. WE'LL LISTEN, WE'LL WORK THROUGH, I GUESS THE KEY THING IS THIS. AND THEN REALISTICALLY, WHEN THE COMMISSION'S FULLY FORMED AND YOU ESTABLISH YOUR MEETING SCHEDULE FOR THE COMMISSION, IT'S LIKELY, YOU KNOW, LIKE OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT TAKES PLACE IN THE EVENING HOURS AS WELL. SO, UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF EVERYBODY COULD HAVE THEIR CALENDARS AVAILABLE FOR OUR NEXT MEETING SO THAT WE ARE ABLE TO, UM, DURING THE MEETING SET THOSE INTERVIEW TIMES, UM, IF YOU TO KEEP THAT TIMELINE, THEN IT'D BE HELPFUL IF EVERYBODY COULD COME TO THAT MEETING WITH THEIR CALENDARS THAT WE COULD FIND MUTUALLY AGREEABLE TIMES TO, UH, TO SCHEDULE THOSE BLOCKS OF TIME FOR THE INTERVIEWS. YEP. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A PLAN. WE HAVE OUR CRITERIA SET. WE, UM, NEED TO COME UP WITH A MEETING DATE FOR OUR NEXT MEETING FOR NEXT WEEK, AT THIS POINT, SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS OUR RANKINGS IN THE APPLICANTS OF THE APPLICATIONS. MY SCHEDULE FOR NEXT WEEK IS AVAILABLE ANYTIME DURING THE DAY ON MONDAY OR FRIDAY AND FRIDAY IS GOING TO BE THE BEST DAY FOR ME. MY MONDAYS ARE ALL DAY. THEY'RE JUST KIND OF APPOINTMENTS BACK TO BACK. SO I WANT TO BE OUT OF TOWN NEXT FRIDAY, SO I WON'T BE ABLE TO DO NEXT FRIDAY. UM, I CAN'T DO MONDAY. I MEAN, FOR ME IT'S BECAUSE I'M IN A TOWN THIRD, YOU HAVE TO KNOW. SO YOU HAVE TO BE, DOES IT, DOES THE MEETING HAVE TO, IN THIS CASE, THIS, I KNOW, DOES THIS FALL ON ME TO BE DURING THE, DURING THE DAY OR IT'D BE BASED, I GUESS, ON WHAT EVERYBODY'S AVAILABILITY AND MAYBE SO IF EVEN TIME IS FINE, THEN, UM, NOW THE, THE ONLY THING WITH THE EVENINGS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK AROUND IS IT CAN'T BE AT THE SAME TIME AS ANOTHER BOARD OR COMMISSION MEETING OR A CITY COUNCIL MEETING BECAUSE IN ORDER TO STREAM THE, UH, MEETING LIVE, UH, WE HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE EQUIPMENT. IF IT'S IN USE, THEN WE CAN'T BE DOING IT AT THE SAME TIME. SO THAT WOULD BE THE OTHER FACTOR THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE WORKED AROUND WEDNESDAY EVENING. IS THERE A MEETING ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT? I'M PULLING UP THE CALENDAR AND ALEX. YEAH, THE MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION MEETS ON WEDNESDAY AT SIX. UH, COUNCIL MEETS A TUESDAY AT SIX ARTS. A BEAUTIFICATION IS MONDAY AT SIX 30. UM, THERE IS THE, HEY IS THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE REVIEW BOARD, ET CETERA. OKAY. TUESDAY DURING THAT AFTERNOON, LIKE AROUND LUNCH TIME, I CAN'T DO, I CAN'T DO AFTERNOON AT ALL. YEAH. WHAT ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE FOUR O'CLOCK OR SOMETHING I CAN DO LIKE A FOUR 30. UM, BUT BEFORE THAT, I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO CATCH OFF RHONDA, BUT BEFORE THAT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TOO [00:45:01] HARD FOR ME TO GET AWAY FROM MY NINE TO FIVE. WHAT TIME ARE THE OTHER OTHER COMMISSION MEETINGS AT SIX? UH, DEPENDING ON THE DAY, IT'S EITHER SIX OR SIX 30, 26, 31, UM, MONDAY, UH, AND THIRD THURSDAY ARE AT SIX 30. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE END OF THE DAY AT FOUR OR FOUR 30. IF YOU POTENTIALLY START AT THAT TIME, IT WOULD GIVE A COUPLE HOURS BEFORE THE EQUIPMENT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THE NEXT MEETING. SO THAT WOULD BE A POSSIBILITY PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR 30 THEN. SO WE DO EITHER. I MEAN, I COULD DO FOUR 30 NEXT. I'M LOOKING AT MY CALENDAR NOW I CAN DO FOUR 30 OR SO PRETTY MUCH EITHER MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, IF THAT WORKS FOR THE REST OF YOU, ALL I CAN DO WHEN I COULD DO TUESDAY, I COULD DO TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY AT FOUR 30 TUESDAY WOULD BE WHAT I'M SAYING. THAT'S PROBABLY THE WORST BECAUSE IT'S THE COUNCIL MEETING. YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN HERE EARLIER. SOMETIMES WE HAVE WEDDINGS PRIOR TO THAT, IN THE ROOM. UM, SO, UM, WHEN WEDNESDAY COULD WORK AT FOUR 30, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE BY, UH, SHORTLY BEFORE SIX IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, UH, THURSDAY YOU'D HAVE TIL SIX 30, MY DAY YOU'D HAVE TIL SIX 30. I CAN'T DO THURSDAY, BUT I COULD DO A WIN STAY AT FOUR 30. MINDSCAPE YOU WOULD JUST HAVE TO CUT BY. WE HAVE TO BE DONE BY SIX. I MEAN, BY FIVE 30, IS IT FIVE 30? I WOULD SAY FIVE 45 TO ALLOW THEM TO BUY. CAN WE MEET? WELL, I THINK RHONDA SAID SHE WASN'T AVAILABLE TO AFFORD HER. YEAH. SAME HERE ON WEDNESDAY. I HAVE A MEETING UNTIL, UNTIL THEN, SO YEAH, WE'LL BE EFFICIENT ON, ON WEDNESDAY. LET'S JUST, LET'S TARGET WEDNESDAY, FOUR 30, OKAY. HOUR AND 15 MINUTES. AND SO, YEAH. YEAH. AND IF WE NEED, WE MAY HAVE TO DO A SECOND. I MEAN, I, BUT I THINK WE CAN GET A, I THINK WE CAN DO IT. YEAH, YEAH. WE CAN DO IT. WE CAN DO IT. SO STAY IS THE 22ND, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. WEDNESDAY THE 20 JULY 22ND FROM FOUR 30 TO FIVE 45 IS WHAT I HEAR. OKAY. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO AT THAT MEETING, WE WILL DISCUSS OUR RANKINGS OR WE'LL DETERMINE OUR FINAL LIST OF PEOPLE THAT WE WILL INTERVIEW. AND THEN TONY, WE WOULD GET HAD THAT GIVE YOU THAT LIST. YOU WOULD COORDINATE THAT. WE'RE ALSO DECIDE WE'LL BRING OUR CALENDAR SO THAT WE CAN DETERMINE WHAT DAYS AND TIMES WE'RE GOING TO INTERVIEW. AND THEN IT WON'T GIVE THAT TO TONY AND THEN THEY WILL THEN TAKE THAT AND SET THOSE INTERVIEWS UP. AND THEN YOU'LL DETERMINE THE QUESTIONS FOR THE INTERVIEWS TOO. SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE SOME THOUGHT AS TO THAT, OR BRING SOME SUGGESTED QUESTIONS WITH YOU TO THAT MEETING IN THE INTEREST OF TIME TO COMPILE THAT LIST TOGETHER. YUP. AND OUR RANKING. AND YOU'LL SEND US THE SPREADSHEET. I'LL SEND YOU A SCORING SHEET AND I'LL SEND YOU, UH, THE EXISTING QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF KATIE HAS ANY SETS OF QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT PROVE USEFUL. IT'S JUST A SAMPLE. I MEAN, I CAN COME WITH SOME TOO AND I CAN LOOK UP WHAT WE DO. AND, UM, SOME QUESTIONS THAT I MAY SH I'LL I'LL SHARE WITH YOU, TONY, UM, ON, UM, ON WHAT WE DO WHEN WE HIRE DIVERSITY RESEARCHES, I'LL LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE'RE, UM, WHAT WE HAVE FOR OUR VP THAT'S WHO WE'RE ACTUALLY HIRING A CHIEF DIVERSITY OFFICER. SO WE WILL ALL LOOK UP THOSE QUESTIONS TO SEE IF THAT WILL BE THE GUIDE AS WELL. SO, OKAY. AND BE SURE TO LOOK AT YOUR CALENDARS ON BRINGING YOUR CALENDARS FOR THE INTERVIEWS FOR THE WEEK OF THE 27TH AND AUGUST 3RD. NOPE. IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. RIGHT. AND UM, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK JUST AS A COMPARISON AND, AND, UH, LOOKING AHEAD, YOU CAN PULL UP THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND THERE IS A COMMUNITY CALENDAR ON THE WEBSITE THAT SHOWS THE OTHER BOARD AND COMMISSION MEETINGS, THOSE SCHEDULED. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME ISSUE WITH THE INTERVIEW PROCESS [00:50:01] THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK AROUND THE AVAILABLE SPACE IN THE, IN THE ROOM AND WHAT THE EQUIPMENT IN ORDER TO, UH, SCHEDULE THOSE INTERVIEWS AS WELL. YEAH. SOME WEEKS ARE HAPPIER WITH MEETINGS THAN OTHERS JUST HAPPENS TO BE NEXT WEEK IS LIKE BEFORE WE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S IN THERE EVERY NIGHT. YEAH. SO, SO SPEAKING TO THAT, RIGHT. SO GIVEN, GIVEN THAT WE HAVE TO COORDINATE ALL THESE SCHEDULES, ESPECIALLY WITH THE INTERVIEWS, RIGHT. WITH FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE AVAILABILITY TO MAKE PUBLIC COUPLE OF EVERYONE'S SCHEDULES AND THEN THE SCHEDULE, THE INTERVIEWS. SO I DON'T THINK YOU'VE MENTIONED SOMETHING EARLIER ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE IF YOU HAD 12 CANDIDATES TO BE SIX, EIGHT, SIX HOURS, BUT MAYBE WITH ONE GROUP FOR SIX CANDIDATES, AND THEN YOU HAVE A SIX SOLON, COULD IT BE THAT IT MAY TAKE SEVERAL DAYS OR MAYBE A WEEK OR MORE TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY GET THROUGH ALL THE CANDIDATES? OR DOES IT MEAN, DOES IT HAVE TO BE DONE WITHIN A TWO WEEK OR TWO DAY WINDOW? I JUST DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST TRYING TO STAY IN, WE'LL DO IT AS WE CAN. UM, YOU KNOW, SO IT COULD BE TWO HOUR BLOCKS. IT COULD BE THREE HOUR BLOCKS. UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S WORTH IT TO GET TOGETHER FOR JUST AN HOUR. SO I WOULD SAY AT LEAST A TWO HOUR MINIMUM TO TRY TO WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THE INTERVIEWS. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO, UM, TONY, YOU SET UP THAT MEETING, IT'LL BE MICROSOFT TEAMS AGAIN. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND RHONDA, YOUR CAMERA'S COMING THROUGH FINE NOW. SO I KNOW I CUT IT ON AT THE END. I WANT TO GET TICKED HER OFF AGAIN. OKAY. UM, SO IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THEN, UM, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO, YOU CAN ADJOURN THE MEETING AND, UH, I'LL BE SENDING OUT THE MEETING INVITATIONS AGENDA AND EVERYTHING LIKE I DID FOR THIS MEETING AGAIN. AND, UM, WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK FORWARD TOWARDS THAT GOAL OF, UM, HAVING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COUNSEL FOR THE REMAINING VACANCIES FOR APPOINTMENT BY AUGUST THE 24TH. AND, UM, PLEASE, ANY OF YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR NEED ANY ASSISTANCE OR ANYTHING, UH, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO MYSELF OR KATIE. OKAY. DO I HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? THE MEETING? THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 1:09 PM. OKAY. NICE TALKING WITH EVERYBODY. LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.