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I SHALL CALL THE

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MEETING TO ORDER OF THE CITY HUBER HEIGHTS PLANNING COMMISSION.

SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL

[ AGENDA CITY PLANNING COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road June 9, 2020 6:00 P.M. ]

THE ROLL? MS. THOMAS, MS. VARGO HERE.

MS. MR. JEFFRIES, MR. WONG HERE.

I HAVE NO OPENING REMARKS.

IS ANYBODY ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

WELCOME OFF.

UH, THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR ANY CITIZENS COMMENTS, NOT PERTAINING TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY COMING IN, SO I'LL GIVE HIM ABOUT A SECOND TAP.

WELCOME BACK.

WELCOME BACK.

I ANNOUNCED IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RULES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ANYONE WHO MAY WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT OR GIVE TESTIMONY REGARDING THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN.

SO I ASK EVERYONE TO STAND, RAISE THEIR RIGHT HAND AND RESPOND.

I DO THE FOLLOWING.

DO YOU HEREBY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE THREAT OF PERJURY TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH SO HELP YOU GOD, PLEASE BE SEATED.

ALSO ASK ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK TONIGHT, STEP TO THE PODIUM AND GIVE THEIR NAME AND SIGN IN ON THE SIGN IN SHEET PROVIDED WE HAVE NO PENDING BUSINESS OR FIRST ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS IS A MAJOR CHANGE.

THE APPLICANT BARCLAY HOLDINGS LLC IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A MAJOR CHANGE TO THE BASIC AND DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A NEW COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ZONING TASTE 20 DASH 14, MR FALKOWSKI.

THANK YOU.

WHAT WE HAVE TONIGHT IS A MAJOR CHANGE OR, UH, THE NEW COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT, UH, BIG SAFETY SUPERSTORE.

THE LOCATION IS 52 39 TAYLORSVILLE ROAD, WHICH IS THE OLD, UH, HEIGHTS ROCKET CLUB LOCATION.

SO IT'S AT THE INTERSECTION OF TAYLORSVILLE AND WAYNE TOWN, WHICH WOULD BE THE DEAN'S WORK NIGHT.

MAYBE YOU HAVE TO GO BY, UM, IT'S A 2.3 ACRES AND THERE'S CURRENTLY ZONE PLAN COMMERCIAL.

SO THIS IS THE RIGHT ZONING DISTRICT FOR A COMMERCIAL USE.

UM, IT'S CONSIDERED A MAJOR CHANGE BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE BUILDING MODIFICATIONS THAT THEY ARE WORKING TO DO AT THE SITE ITSELF.

UM, SO WE ARE BUILDING UP THEIR PORTIONS OF THE FRONT AND THE BACK OF THE BUILDING AND KEEPING THEM FOR 300 SQUARE FEET, RESPECT TO THE NEW STOREFRONT OUT FRONT, AND THEN A, YOU CALL IT KIND OF STORAGE AREA IN THE BACK.

UM, AND WITH THE LOADING DOCKS THEMSELVES, THE BUILDING MATERIALS ARE, UH, ETHOS AND PANELS THAT WILL MATCH THE EXISTING BUILDING.

SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE FRONT AND THE SIDE, THERE IS SOME EXISTING METAL SIDING THAT, UH, THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO MATCH AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A LARGE WINDOW GLASS STOREFRONT IN THAT FRONT AREA.

AND ALONG WITH THE DOWNTOWN, THE MASONRY ITSELF, THE, UM, SOUTH SIDE ELEVATION HAS AN AREA OF BRICK.

THAT'S A PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED AND INSTALLED THE METAL SIDING TO MATCH THAT EXISTING, UM, METAL THAT'S, UH, RIGHT HERE THROUGH HERE.

WHEREAS THEY'RE REMOVING THAT EXPOSES SOME RIGHT AREA.

THIS IS TO MATCH THE REST AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE JUST A SMALL LITTLE TRIAL, THE BUILDING MATERIALS AND OTHER THINGS ABOUT THE SITES THAT ARE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE AS PART OF OUR CODE AT A URL, EITHER TO DO A MASONRY ENCLOSURE OR MATCH THE MATERIALS OF THE BUILDING.

SO THAT IS PART OF THE DECISION FACTOR THAT THEY FOLLOW MORE ON THAT WHAT THEY HAD PROPOSED WAS FOR A SIX FOOT HIGH OR ON BOARD, WHICH DOESN'T MATCH.

SO WE WERE REQUESTING THAT THAT'S PART OF THE DECISION RIGHTS.

IT'S EITHER BE MASONRY OR A MATERIAL THAT MATCHES THAT METAL MATERIAL ON THE BUILDING ITSELF, EVEN THE SITE ITSELF.

UM, YOU HAVE EXISTING ACCESS OFF OF TERRORS MILL ROAD AND OFF OF LANE TOWN BOULEVARD AT THE FROST OF THE BUILDING.

SO THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THOSE ACCESS POINTS, UH, REPAVE PARKING

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LOT.

RESTRIPE UH, BECAUSE OF THAT LITTLE ADDITION OUT FRONT THAT DOES AFFECT PART OF THAT FRONT PARKING LOT.

UM, THERE'S SOME EXISTING LIGHT POLES OUT THERE, AND IT NEEDS TO BE RELOCATE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THEY DON'T LINE UP WITH THE PARKING SPACES CORRECTLY.

SO THEY'LL BE DOING EXISTING LIGHTING THEN PUTTING THOSE IN THE PROPER LOCATIONS.

UM, SO, UH, WITH THAT, UH, THE EXISTING BLOCK CONTAINS 81 PARKING SPACES BEFORE THOSE BEING ADA ACCESSIBLE, UH, OPPOSE USE FALLS FOR ONE SPACE FOR EVERY 400 SQUARE FEET OF INDOOR OUTDOOR SALES AND ONE SPACE FOR EACH 800 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE STORAGE AND WAREHOUSE AREA.

UH, THIS EQUATES TO 68 REQUIRED PARKING SPACES, THIS PLAN.

SO 64 PARKING SPACES STEPPED IT NOW A PROBLEM WITH LESS PARKING SPACES IN THIS.

UM, WE'VE COME TO KNOW THAT OUR ART COAST IS BEING A LITTLE EXCESSIVE ONCE SOME OF THE SHOPPING CENTER TYPE PARKING.

SO, AND ALSO TALKING WITH THE, UH, APPLICANTS, UM, THEIR MODEL, UH, MAYBE THEY THINK 64 IS JUST FINE FOR THEIR TYPE OF USE THEIR, THEIR BUSINESS AND THIS LOCATION.

THIS DOES SHOW TO ALSO BE FOR, UM, ADA ACCESSIBLE.

SO IT'S NOT A REDUCTION IN THE ADA ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPACES.

THE SIMON'S CURRENTLY SERVED BY PUBLIC SANITARY AND PUBLIC WATER.

UH, SO THEY WILL UTILIZE PUBLIC SYSTEM.

UM, THE FIRE COMMENTS, ONE OF THE COMRADES IS TO ADD A FIRE PINE TRAIN ON SITE.

THERE'S SOME OUT OF THE STREETS.

SO THAT'S, UH, UM, THE BUILDING WILL BE SPRINKLED.

THE WATERLINE DOES COME IN, UH, THEY'LL COME IN AND WITH THE REAR WITH THE ENVIRONMENT AND DOMESTIC LINE, AND THEY CAN JUST TAP OFF THAT NEW HYDRANT SOMEWHERE ON SITE, THE DRAINAGE ON THE SITE, THE PROPERTY DRAINS FOR ME, CELESTE.

UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING A NEW DETENTION BASIN AT THE REAR OF THE SITE THAT WOULD CONNECT INTO THE EXISTING STORM SYSTEM, ALLEN WAYNE CHALLENGE BOULEVARD.

SO THE INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS AREA, THEY WILL BE HANDLING THROUGH CONTENTION AND, UH, THEY WILL MEET ALL CITY CODES, PERFECT PAGE.

THEY SHOW SIGNAGE ON THE PLANS ABOUT THE LOCATION.

THERE'S AN EXISTING SIGN OUT FRONT, UM, AND STADIA ARE CALLING OUT TO, UH, BASICALLY JUST REPURPOSE THAT SIGN AND THEY ALSO SHOW SIGNAGE AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

UH, THEY DID NOT PROVIDE DIMENSIONS OF THAT, SO I COULD DO THE CALCULATIONS.

SO I GIVE THEM THAT THEY CAN COME BACK FOR A MINOR CHANGE FOR SIGNAGE.

UM, UNLESS YOU WANTED TO PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THE SPECIFICATIONS OF THAT TO MEET, UH, CAN BE ADDED TO THE LANDSCAPING.

UM, IT'S A VERY WELL LANDSCAPED SITES, A LOT OF TREES, BUSHES, FLOWERS, UH, THIS IS GOING TO BE, THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET, AND THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF PROVIDING STREETS, UH, LANDSCAPING TO HELP, UH, KIND OF BUFFER THAT SITE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TAYLORSVILLE ROAD.

SO, UM, STAFF'S HAPPY WITH THIS LAYOUT.

SO TREES IN THE ISLANDS ALL IN ADDITIONAL WAYS OF BEING OUT FRONT.

SO I THINK THAT'S BE A GOOD USE THEN ALSO LANDSCAPING AROUND WHERE THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE IS TO SOME EXTENT, A GOOD BUFFER OFF OF LINKEDIN, AND THEN WAS ALSO THE, BRING THE SPACE STILL AT THE, UH, THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING ITSELF, ALL THE COMPANY THAT'S RIGHT.

QUESTIONS.

THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE TODAY THAT THEY CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL.

OKAY.

THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF MS. FARGO, YOU DIDN'T ADDRESS, DO THEY PLAN TO PUT IN AN ESCALATOR OR AN ELEVATOR? BECAUSE THE FRONT ENTRANCE TO THAT BUILDING NOW IS A LOT OF, THERE ARE A LOT OF STEPS.

HOW DO YOU KNOW? I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ON THE PLANS THAT, UM, FROM, FROM PINE TO HER VIEW, THE EXTERIOR, UH, THEY CAN ANSWER SOME OF THE INTERIOR HOW THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT WORK.

CAUSE YES.

UM, IT'S AN INTERESTING BUILDING ON THE INSIDE.

I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW WE DO THAT THOUGH.

I'M NOT SURE.

OKAY.

WELL, THOSE STEPS ARE ON THE OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

I'LL WAIT.

YES.

MR. JEFFRIES JUST WENT ON THE SIGN.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE DRAWINGS, EVERYTHING'S IN THE FRONT AND THEN THE SIGN IN THE LOT.

IS IT SOMETHING WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SIGNAGE

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ON THE BACK OR THE SIDE WE SHOULD COVER AS WELL? IF IT'S GONNA BE MINOR.

I MEAN, I WOULD THINK A BUSINESS LIKE THAT WOULD WANT TO HAVE SOME ADVERTISING ON THE BACKSIDE AS PEOPLE ARE COMING DOWN, WAYNE TOWN AS WELL.

THE ONLY THING WE'VE SEEN IS JUST THE WOMAN'S SHOW ON THE FRONT.

THEN THEY CALL OUT ON SITE PLAN ABOUT , WHICH DOES NOT MEET OUR CODE.

UM, BUT, UM, WE HAVE ALLOWED, SO THAT'S A POSSIBILITY EITHER WAY, BUT THERE HAS NOT BEEN, DID YOU ADDRESS ANYTHING ABOUT SIGNAGE IN THE, UH, DECISION RECORD, AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE DECISION RIGHT STATES THAT SIGNAGE IS NOT APPROVED FOR THIS, THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A MINOR CHANGE TO PLAN TUITION.

IF YOU DON'T CHANGE THE DECISION RECORD TO SAY SOMETHING LIKE MEET THE CODE OF TOTAL SQUARE FEET ON MULTIPLE SIDES, SINCE YOU CAN SEE IT FROM TWO SIDES AND THE EXISTING GROUND SIGN, UM, TO JUST BE REBASED OR SIX FEET TALL, 75 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS STATE OR GO BACK AND BE IN DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

ONE MORE SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIGNS, UM, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED SIGNAGE ON THAT PROPERTY? WELL, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THERE'S AN INSISTING SIGN.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT WHAT I'M WONDERING IS, UM, THE NEW 75 SQUARE FOOT GROUND SIGN SIX FEET TALL, 15 FEET IN THE RIGHT WAY.

AND THEN ON THE WALL, SINCE IT'S ON CORNER BOX, A HUNDRED AND SQUARE FEET OF TOLD SIGNAGE, DO THEY EXCEED THAT RIGHT NOW WITH WHAT WE HAVE THE, SORRY, JUST ME KIND OF SCALING, UH, THAT FRONT SIGN APPEARS TO BE LARGER THAN 150.

YOU HAVE THE EXISTING SCIENCE TOLERANCE, SIX FEET, WHICH, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY'VE ALREADY USED UP WHAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN OUR CODE.

SO IF THEY WANTED TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE BACK, THAT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE CURRENTLY ALLOW, CORRECT.

IF THIS WAS STRAIGHT ZONES BAN THIS, THEY HAVE TO GO FOR A BEARINGS AS BMP GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF WHATEVER GOOD CATCH I THINK WE'LL STICK WITH, OR MY OPINION WOULD BE TO STICK WITH WHAT'S ON YOUR, UH, WHAT YOU'VE WRITTEN OUT AS FAR AS THE PLAN OR THE DECISION RECORD AND LET THEM HAVE TIME TO COME BACK SOME OTHER TIME PACKAGE.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YOU HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE MATERIAL, NOT MEETING THE METAL OR THE MASONRY, WAS THAT ON THE TRASH DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE ITSELF, OUR CODE STATES THAT IT'S TO BE MADE OF A MASONRY MATERIAL FOR MATCH MATERIALS, THEIR PROPOSAL DIDN'T MATCH THAT.

SO THAT'S, WHAT'S IN THE DECISION RECORD IS THAT THEY ARE TO FOLLOW OUR CITY KIND OF CHANGE THAT TO EITHER A MASONRY OR SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO CHANGE THAT AS IT STANDS.

RIGHT? YEAH.

THE QUESTION IS FOR STAFF WORLD UP TO THE PUBLIC, ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT? YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

HI, MY NAME IS RICHARD DRAKE, DRAKE ARCHITECTURE.

UM, UH, MR. VARGO, AS FAR AS THE, UH, ELEVATOR GOES, YES, WE ARE PLANNING, PUTTING AN ELEVATOR IN THE REAR OF THE SPACE.

AND JUST SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE CURRENTLY, THE WAY THAT YOU ENTER THE BUILDING IS YOU DO GO TO A SECOND LEVEL AND ENTER ON A MEZZANINE LEVEL.

THAT WHOLE AREA IS BEING TAKEN OFF THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

SO YOU WILL BE ENTERING AT GRADE LEVEL INTO THE MAIN BUILDING.

THERE ARE TWO WAYS UP INTO THE BUILDING.

NOW THERE'S A STAIRCASE JUST INSIDE THE BUILDING THAT'LL REMAIN.

AND THERE'S A REAR STAIR STAIRCASE IN THE REAR THAT WILL ALSO HAVE THE ADDITION OF THE ELEVATOR.

SO THERE WILL BE ELEVATOR ACCESS, ADA ACCESS TO THE SECOND LEVEL, TO THE MEZZANINE LEVEL THAT WOULD REMAIN, UM, AS FAR AS THE SIGNAGE GOES.

YEAH, I AGREE YET.

WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AT A LATER DATE WITH THE AMOUNT OF SIGNS THAT THAT WILL REQUIRE, UM, AS WELL AS SIGNAGE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS WINGS, TOWN, CAMERON NAME, THE STREET.

YEAH.

WAYNESVILLE ROAD.

SO YEAH.

SO WHERE THERE, I THINK THOSE ARE THE MAIN QUESTIONS.

AND I THINK THAT WILL BE THERE.

WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS WHETHER, WHAT MATERIAL WE'LL USE ON THE TRASH ENCLOSURE, BUT WE WILL SWITCH IT TO EITHER

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THE METAL MATERIAL THAT'S ON THE REAR OF THE BUILDING THAT'S ON THE DIAGONAL OR TO A MASONRY TYPE MATERIAL EFS FOR SNOW.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS, UH, ZONING CASE? I AM THRILLED THAT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN REPURPOSING THAT BUILDING.

YEAH.

SO I'M VERY, VERY PLEASED WITH WHAT APPEARS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING REALLY NICE.

ABSOLUTELY.

I'LL ALSO SAY THAT I'M THRILLED AS WELL.

AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH, OH, GLEN OTTO.

I'VE SPOKEN WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS OVER THERE ABOUT IT AND I'M, YOU KNOW, WITH, AND BE KIND OF UP IN THE AIR BEFORE ON WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN THERE.

AND THEY DIDN'T REALLY CARE FOR WHAT WAS THERE AS IT WAS USED BEFORE.

UM, THEY'RE THRILLED.

SO, UM, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE EXTREMELY WELCOME IN THAT AREA.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE SONY CASE AND HEARING THAT ONE WILL CLOSE IT TO THE PUBLIC? UM, OKAY.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE MR. ? MY LIFE'S NOT KNOCKING, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW.

I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING.

OH, COME ON.

WE JUST NEED TO TALK LOUDER, SCOTT, WHATEVER YOU DID NOW, NOW IT WORKS.

OKAY.

SORRY.

THAT PROBLEM.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY BARCLAY HOLDING LLC FOR APPROVAL OR MAKE A MAJOR CHANGE FOR BUILDING AND SITE IMPROVEMENTS AT 52 39 TAYLORSVILLE ROAD ZONING CASE 20 DASH 14 AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION RECORD ARE ATTACHED THERE TO MOVE BY MR. JEFFRIES.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND BY MS. THOMAS SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MISS FARGO? YES.

YES.

MS. THOMAS.

YES.

MR. JEFFREYS.

YES.

MR. WALLEN.

YES.

MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE APPLICANT.

SO THE NEXT STEP IS THIS DOES GO TO CITY COUNCIL.

IS THIS THE MAJOR CHANGE? THIS IS A WEEK.

WE WERE ABLE TO MEET THE SCHEDULE TO BE ON THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION A WEEK FROM TONIGHT, WHICH IS NEXT TUESDAY NIGHT, THAT MEETING IS AT SIX O'CLOCK AND THEN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS THE NEXT WEEK ON THAT MONDAY 7:00 PM FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

NEXT ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS IS A FINAL PLAT AND THE APPLICANT CORRIDOR DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, LLC IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A FINAL PLAT FOR 54 LOTS AND ONE GREEN SPACE AND CARRIES TRAILS, SECTION 17 ZONING CASE 20 DASH 16, MR. FOULK HOUSE.

THANK YOU.

UH, SO SECTION 17 OF CARRIAGE TRAILS, IF YOU REMEMBER, THIS IS THE OLD BROWN FARM THAT WAS ADDED TO CARRIAGE TRAILS CAME FOR PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT IT.

UH, SOMETIME LAST YEAR THAT, UH, THIS AREA, UM, WAS ADDED, THERE WAS A SPLIT THE PROPERTY IN THE BACK, UM, HAS NOW BEEN SOLD OFF TO ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS.

UM, AND WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN RED UPFRONT IS THE AREA THAT, UH, IS BEING DISCUSSED.

THIS IS, UM, THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN DID COME THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION AND DID GET APPROVAL AND IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THIS IS 14.757 25 ACRES, UH, ZONING.

THIS PLAN MIXED USE.

THERE ARE 54 SINGLE FAMILY, UH, LOTS, AND THEN ONE GREEN SPACE, LOT THAT'S, UH, OUT FRONT THAT HAS SOME, UH, UTILITIES THAT GO THROUGH IT.

SO THAT'S WHY, UH, THAT HAD TO BE A SEPARATE LOTS OF ITSELF.

COULDN'T FIT A BUILDING LOTS UP THERE.

UM, SO THIS, UH, IT'S THE ONLY PHASE OF SECTION 17.

THIS IS A KIND OF ON ITS OWN, THAT CARRIES TRAILS THAT DOES COME OFF OF CARE'S TRAILS PARKWAY AT THE, UH, KIND OF THE FRONT ENTRANCE OFF FULL TROY PIKE.

UM, AND, UH, THAT, UH, THIS PLAT DOES, UH, DEDICATE THE ROADWAYS, UH, THE EASEMENTS, UH, SETBACKS, UH, THERE'S A UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENTS IN THE REAR.

THERE'S A CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGH THE BACK, UH, THAT SETS UP THOSE EASEMENTS AS WELL.

UH, DRAINAGE DOES

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GO DOWN INTO THAT FRONT DETENTION BASIN.

SO THERE DIDN'T NEED TO BE AN EXTRA LOT FOR DETENTIONS CAUSE, UH, THAT WAS MODIFIED AT THAT DETAILED DEVELOPED PLAN PHASE.

SO THIS IS JUST THE NEXT STEP, UH, TO BE ABLE TO, UH, START SELLING THE LOTS, UH, WHEN THEY ARE READY, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

THE QUESTION WAS THAT ONE LOT THERE TO THE SOUTH, UM, THAT THEY SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ON WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH THAT LONG JUST GREEN SPACE.

SO, UH, DIRECTLY BEHIND IT, WHAT'S CONNECTED TO IT IS OPEN SPACE, LOT WHERE THAT, UH, THAT POND IS.

SO THIS IS JUST AN EXTENSION OF THAT.

SO, UH, ANYBODY COMING DOWN THE SIDEWALK DOESN'T HAVE TO GO OUT TO CARROTS TRAILS PARKWAY TO BE ABLE TO WALK OVER, TO ENJOY THE, THE POND.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM STAFF, MR. JEFFRIES, JUST A COUPLE.

UM, DO WE KNOW WHERE THE MAILBOX IS GOING TO GO YET? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT ONE POINT AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NARROW ROADWAYS AND I MEAN, CAUSE WE'RE AT THAT 27 FOOT MINIMUM WITH RIGHT.

I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE THEM, BUT I DO NOT HAVE THAT PLAN CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PLATS.

UM, SO RIGHT OFF MY HAD, I DON'T KNOW.

OKAY.

IT WAS, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND I KNOW FOR WE'RE GETTING TIGHT ON THE LOTS AND TIGHT ON THE ROADS WE SHOULD BE PLAYING IN WHERE THOSE BOXES ARE INSTEAD OF SQUEEZING THEM.

MAN, I THINK, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP EARLY ENOUGH.

UM, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, IT'S AT LIKE THE, WHERE, WHERE A REAR LOTS HITS, UH, THE, THOSE INTERSECTIONS IS THAT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE, UH, THEY WOULD BE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, BUT I, I DON'T HAVE THAT WITH ME.

OTHER QUESTION WAS, IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SEE 11, BASICALLY THE ONE RIGHT NEXT TO THE GREEN SPACE.

WHEN YOU COME IN THE BACK, IT GOES DOWN TO 42.

WELL, AS FAR AS THE WIDTH AND WE'VE TALKED, I KNOW ABOUT, AGAIN, THE WIDTH, I'M NOT, I ONLY WANT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE, BUT WE WERE GOING TO BE SQUEEZING THESE AND AGAIN, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE TIGHT.

SO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE SAME BUILDER THAT WE HAD IN THE PAST AND MISSING.

AND IF WE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S A REASON THAT WE NEED TO TIGHTEN THAT LOT UP AT THE BACK WHEN IT'S GREEN SPACE THAT WE'RE GIVING UP INSTEAD OF MAKING IT KIND OF MORE UNIFORM SO THAT WE'RE NOT SQUEEZING THAT SIDELINE ANYWAY, THE, UH, HOW SOME OF THOSE LOTS ARE DESIGNED WHEN YOU'RE ON CURVES LIKE THAT, THAT SHRINK IN THE REAR WHERE WE LOOK TO MEET THOSE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS ARE AT BACK OF HOUSE, WHEREVER A BACK OF HOUSE WOULD BE.

SO IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHAT THE TYPICAL HOUSE IS.

SO AT A POINT IN THE REAR YARD, IT'S A MINIMUM OF 50 FEET.

NOW IN THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT, WE HAD THE DISCUSSION WITH THE DEVELOPER ON LAYING THIS OUT.

AND AS YOU'LL NOTICE, EVERY ONE OF THESE LOTS HAS A MINIMUM AS I CALL OUT, SAY A MINIMUM OF 50, BUT THESE ARE 51 AS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION OF MAKING SURE THERE'S A LITTLE EXTRA ROOM, UM, SO THAT WE DON'T RUN INTO SOME OF THOSE ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD BEFORE ABOUT THE SETBACKS.

SO, UH, THAT WAS A CONSCIOUS DECISION ON THIS SECTION TO PROVIDE SOME OF THAT EXTRA SPACE.

BUT FOR THAT LOT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, THAT ONE ON THE BACK RIGHT CORNER OF THE HOUSE IS WHERE I WOULD SAY WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE RISK, RIGHT? I MEAN, IF WE'RE FACING THE HOUSE BACK RIGHT CORNERS WHERE THAT LINE'S TIGHTENING UP AND THERE'S STILL THE 51 FEET AT A TYPICAL HOUSE REAR ELEVATION IN THE DESIGN, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE WOULDN'T HAVE WHY WE ANGLE A LOT LIKE THAT OF JUST MAKING IT GO STRAIGHT LINE SINCE IT'S JUST GREEN SPACE RIGHT THERE? SURE.

THE, THE TYPICAL WAY TO DO THAT IS PERPENDICULAR OFF THE FRONT LINE.

SO ON A CURVE, INSTEAD OF BEING PARALLEL TO THE NORTHERN LINE, NOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NO LONGER PERPENDICULAR TO THAT CURVE.

SO THIS IS THE TYPICAL WAY OF LAYING OUT.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, BUT IT'S THE TYPICAL WAY MAKES IT EASIER FOR A HOMEOWNER, FOR A SURVEYOR COMING OUT THAT YOU FIND YOUR POINT ON THE SIDEWALK AND GO STRAIGHT BACK.

UM, SO THAT THAT'S THE TYPICAL WAY TO DESIGN.

AND SO, UM, IT COULD HAVE DONE THIS, BUT IT DIDN'T NEED TO, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF SHUT UP, PUT IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.

IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ZONING CASE? MR. CONAWAY COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT HE DID SEND OVER SOME INFORMATION ABOUT CARRIAGE TRAILS, UM, AS HE

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NORMALLY DOES WHEN WE GET PLANTS, I'M SURE.

WOULD YOU ENLIGHTEN US, MET UP REAL QUICK, UM, ABOUT THE SALES AND WHERE WE'RE AT FOR THE YEAR? IT IS LOTS OF DEVELOPED OVER ON CARRIAGE TRAILS RIGHT NOW IS 1,146, LOTS SOLD 1042 LOTS SOLD SO FAR IN 2020 46, WHICH WE'RE VERY IMPRESSED WITH CONSIDERING WE'VE HAD SHUTDOWN SINCE MARCH THAT, UH, LOTS ARE STILL BEING SOLD.

WE, UH, I, I DID JUST LOOK AT EVEN OTHER SUBDIVISIONS THAT DON'T TALKING ABOUT CARRIAGE TRAILS HERE, BUT EVEN OUR OTHER SUBDIVISION AS ARE HAVING CONSISTENT SALES THROUGHOUT MARCH, APRIL AND MAY.

AND WE'RE HOPING IT CONTINUES NOW THROUGH THIS.

SO IT'S A LITTLE SURPRISING WITH HEARING ABOUT SOME EXISTING HOME MARKETS ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO SHOW YOUR HOME CAUSE UH, PEOPLE CAN'T COME OUT, BUT NEW HOME SALES ARE CONTINUING, UM, AND MAY NOT BE AT THE HIGH PACE.

IT'S BEEN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT IT'S STILL CONSISTENT.

SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RE THREE PRO? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY QUARTER DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, LLC, FOR APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT FOR SECTION 17 OF THE CARRIAGE TRAILS DEVELOPMENT ZONING CASE 20 DASH 16 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF'S MEMORANDUM DATED JUNE 3RD, 2020 IN THIS PLANNING MISSIONS DECISION RECORD ATTACHED THERE.

MOVE THIS OFF.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND BY MISS FARGO SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL MS. THOMAS.

YES.

MR. JEFFREYS.

YES.

MS. FARGO.

YES.

YES.

MR. WONG.

YES.

MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO NEXT AT OUR NEW BUSINESSES.

A LOT SPLIT THE APPLICANT CITY HUBER HEIGHTS IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A LOT SPLIT ON LOT THREE OH THREE 23.695 ACRES IN THE WINDBROOK THE SUBDIVISION SECTION THREE ZONING CASE 20 DASH 15.

MR .

THANK YOU.

UH, THIS IS A LOT SPLIT FOR THE WINDBROOK SUBDIVISION.

UM, AS YOU RECALL, UM, WE HAD THE WINDBROOK SECTION THREE DETAILED DEVELOPED PLAN COME BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WAS APPROVED FOR THE FARM AREA THAT IS, UH, TO THE EAST OF THE EXISTING SECTION.

SO HERE'S THE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED.

UM, THE IT'S SPLIT INTO TWO PHASES.

THERE'S A, WE'LL CALL IT THE SOUTHERN PHASE AND THE NORTHERN PHASE.

UM, THE CITY OWNS THE PROPERTY AND THEY, A DEVELOPER IS, UH, GOING TO BE CLOSING ON THE PROPERTY, UM, COMING UP HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, UM, IF PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVES THE LOT SPLIT HERE AT NIGHT, UM, I'LL GO BACK.

THE, THIS PROPERTY IS ALL THE WAY HERE.

PLUS FRONTAGE OUT ON ROUTE 40.

UH, THERE WAS ALREADY A SPLIT FOR THE WATER TOWER.

AND THEN DOWN THROUGH HERE AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, THEY ARE LOOKING TO PURCHASE JUST A SOUTHERN PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY AT THIS POINT IN TIME, TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT SPLIT TO BE ABLE TO SET THAT LINE WORK FOR WHERE THAT PROPERTY LINE IS.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THREE PROPERTIES THAT THIS ONE PARCEL HAS BEEN SPLIT INTO.

SO YOU HAVE THIS SOUTHERN PIECE, WHICH IS THE 7.3 ACRES.

THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE CLOSING ON TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE AND START, UH, UH, CONSTRUCTION ON.

AND THEN THERE'S THE SEVEN POINT ALMOST 7.6 ACRES, WHICH IS A PHASE TWO OF SECTION THREE, WHICH WOULD BE THE NEXT PORTION THAT THEY WOULD PURCHASE, UM, AT THE NEXT PHASE OF THE AGREEMENT.

AND THEN THERE'S THE PART OUT FRONT, WHICH IS, UH, JUST UNDER EIGHT ACRES, UH, WHICH IS A SET FOR, UM, A COMMERCIAL TYPE DEVELOPMENT, UH, AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL, UH, UH, APPROVED BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SO THAT'S BEING SPLIT OFF AS WELL FROM THAT, UH, WHAT WAS APPROVED THROUGH THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SO, UH, EACH OF THESE DO HAVE ACCESS TO PUBLIC STREETS.

SO, UH, IT CAN'T BE SPLIT WITHOUT HAVING ACCESS EASEMENTS TO GET TO ANY ONE OF THOSE, UH, PIECES.

BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MS. FARGO CAN KENYON WHO'S WHO IS,

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UH, IT'S UH, THE APPLICANT IS NEW YORK, OREGON.

THAT'S THE BUILDER.

UM, IT'S UM, THE CORRIDOR MANAGEMENT.

IT'S, IT'S AN ARM OF DECK.

IT'S THE CARRIAGE TRAILS.

IT'S THE SAME.

UM, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT GROUP WITHIN THERE.

UM, ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WE SHOULD OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.

IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK AND HEARING? NO ONE, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS FOR APPROVAL OF THE REPLAT OF IN LOT THREE OH THREE MIAMI COUNTY, OHIO RECORDS, ZONING CASE 20 DASH 15 IN ACCORDANCE WITH FIRE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF'S MEMORANDUM DATED JUNE 3RD, 2020, AND THE DEPLANING DECISION PLANNING.

COMMISSION'S DECISION RECORD ATTACHED THERE TOO.

WHAT AM I MISSING? THOMAS? IS THERE A SECOND SECOND BY MR. JEFFERY'S SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL AND I CAN'T GET CAN'T SEE, MS. MARGO.

YES.

MISS OFF.

YES.

MR. JEFFREYS.

YES.

MS. THOMAS.

YES.

MR. WOOL.

YES.

MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA AS ADDITIONAL BUSINESS PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCE, MULTIFAMILY BELL FOUNTAIN FITCHBURG.

I DID THIS TO YOU AGAIN.

A WAIT, WE TRIED THIS AT THE LAST MEETING AND, UH, IT GOT POLLED.

AND AT THE LAST MINUTE I GOT MESSAGED JUST LATE TODAY.

UM, SO I'LL, I'LL EXPLAIN WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE, THE OAKS OF HUBER HEIGHTS.

THE FINAL SECTION CAME BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, FOR SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL THAT HAS THAT FINAL CONNECTION DOWN TO FITCHBURG ROAD.

IT WAS APPROVED THE, UH, THE BUILDER IN FURNACE AT THE TIME WAS READY TO MOVE FORWARD.

THEY SUBMITTED THEIR FINAL CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.

I SENT BACK COMMENTS TO THEM AND THEN IT GOT PUT ON HOLD.

AND AT THAT TIME IN VERNA SAID THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE PROJECT ITSELF.

SO THAT LAND SITS VACANT.

SO, UH, AS I CAME THE LAST TIME SAYING THAT THERE WAS A, AN INTERESTED PARTY ABOUT TAKING THAT REMAINDER PIECE AND SEEING IF IT'S, UH, WHAT WOULD PASS THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL ABOUT REZONING THAT FOR MULTIFAMILY USE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THE REDWOOD APARTMENTS UP IN CARRIAGE TRAILS, AS WE GOT TO THAT POINT, UM, THEY, UH, THE SELLER, UM, ENDED UP MOVING FORWARD WITH A DIFFERENT GROUP SO THAT DIFFERENT GROUP IS WANTS TO CONTINUE WITH THE EXISTING APPROVED PLANS FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY, UM, RESIDENTIAL.

SO, UM, THERE'S NO NEED TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF MULTIFAMILY ON THAT PORTION BECAUSE, UH, THERE THAT'S MOVING FORWARD.

UM, AS ORIGINALLY APPROVED THE PROPERTY, THAT'S AT THE INTERSECTION OF FITCHBURG AND BELL FOUNTAIN THAT THE CHURCH BOUGHT AND WAS SPLIT OFF BACK.

WHAT WAS THAT? 10, 15 YEARS AGO THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF THE OAKS SUBDIVISION.

THE CHURCH IS NOW GOING TO BE SELLING THAT PROPERTY.

AND THERE WERE TWO INTERESTED PARTIES.

ONE WAS THE GROUP THAT WANTED TO DO THESE APARTMENTS AND THEY WANTED TO COME IN AND TALK ABOUT WHETHER THESE TYPES OF APARTMENTS WOULD BE A GOOD THERE, BUT THEY INFORMED ME, UH, LATE TODAY THAT, UH, THEY DID NOT WIN THE BID FOR THAT PROPERTY.

SO THERE'S ANOTHER GROUP THAT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO DO THAT WILL EVENTUALLY COME TO PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT THIS EXISTING GROUP IS STILL LOOKING TO TRY AND DO SOME APARTMENTS SOMEWHERE NEAR HEIGHTS.

SO, UM, WE'LL WORK WITH THEM AND FIND SOMETHING THAT WORKS.

SO THERE'S NOT A PROPOSAL FOR YOU TO HEAR ABOUT SITE.

OKAY.

LONG STORY SHORT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

UH, WITHOUT OBJECTIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES FOR MAY 12TH, 2020 WILL BE APPROVED HEARING NO OBJECTIONS.

THEY ARE APPROVED REPORTS AND CALENDAR REVIEW.

MR. .

WE HAVE NO APPLICATIONS FOR THE JUNE 23RD MEETING.

UM, SO, AND WE'VE PASSED THE DEADLINES FOR THOSE.

SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE WE CAN CANCEL THAT MEETING.

I'M FINE.

I WON'T BE HERE.

I WOULDN'T BE HERE.

ANYHOW, SANDS HOUSE.

CHERYL WILL NOT BE HERE WITHOUT

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ME.

OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

WELL, WE'LL CANCEL IT.

HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO GO ON JULY 14TH, UM, THAT WE MOST LIKELY WILL.

UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SOME OTHER PROPERTIES ABOUT SOME, UH, AT LEAST A MINOR CHANGE, UH, FOR AN EXISTING, UH, BUSINESS SITE THAT, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WILL BE APPLYING IN TIME FOR CAN'T SAY WHERE YET.

OKAY.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO BRING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION THIS EVENING? I WAS CURIOUS TO KNOW MARION MEADOWS, THE PROPERTY THAT THE CITY PURCHASED.

WAS IT THE ENTIRE SHOPPING CENTER? WAS IT ONLY THE NORTH END? WAS IT WHERE, WHAT PART OF THAT? THE, WHAT THE PARCEL IS OF MARION MEADOWS, THE MAIN STRIP CENTER THERE FROM THE FAR END WHERE VACS AND VIDEOS WAS DOWN TO THE SIT, STAY IN PLAY DOG PARK THAT SIT, STAY IN PLAY WAS SPLIT OFF.

SO THAT IS OWNED BY A DIFFERENT OWNER.

SO THAT'S NOT PART OF THE BUILDING'S ATTACHED, BUT THERE'S A, THERE'S A COMMON WALL THERE.

IT'S WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS.

UM, THERE'S A PARKING EASEMENT FOR THEM BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THAT PARKING LOT IS OWNED NOW BY THE CITY.

UM, THE NEXT BUILDING OVER WHERE LIKE THE NIGHTCLUB WAS AND THAT KIND OF THING, THAT IS A SEPARATE PARCEL AS WELL.

SO THAT'S NOT PART OF WHAT THE CITY, THE FURNITURE STORE THAT IS PART OF WHAT'S THE CITY PURCHASED.

OKAY.

THAT UNITED FURNITURE.

YES.

SO FROM SIX DAY IN PLAY TO THE NORTH IS WHAT THE CITY PURCHASED.

OKAY.

AND THERE'S NO NOTHING COMING BEFORE US ANYTIME SOON ON THAT NOTE AND RIGHT.

IT'S A STRAIGHT ZONE RIGHT NOW.

SO, UH, UNLESS THERE'S A REZONING, THEN IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY COME TO PLANK COMMISSIONER.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATES OR ANYTHING FROM CHICK-FIL-A OR WOOD OR DO WE HAVE A DELAY WITH SORT OF SLAVERY AND GOING CHICK-FIL-A THEY DID RECEIVE THEIR PERMITS.

THEY DID SUBMIT FOR EVERYTHING.

AND THEY'VE ALSO SUBMITTED FOR THEIR BUILDING PERMITS WITH THE COUNTY.

UM, THEY, UH, WERE LOOKING AT SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS BECAUSE OF THE, UH, UH, THE, THE COVID-19 ABOUT HOW THEIR DRIVE THROUGH WORKS OF WHETHER THEY WANT TO ON A GLOBAL SCALE OF CHICK-FIL-A ITSELF, UH, MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS.

SO, UM, BUT THEY ARE JUST ABOUT READY TO GO.

THEY'VE SUBMITTED AND RECEIVED THEIR PERMITS.

THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT THE CEILING, PLEASE BE SAFE.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.

OKAY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Speech-to-Text.