* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. WE HAVE MR. BELL. [00:00:01] OKAY. WE ARE ALL, WE ARE ALL ALIVE. OKAY. SO IT CURRENTLY IS SEVEN OH TWO, [1. Call Meeting To Order/Roll Call:] AND WE'LL CALL THIS, UH, C HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MARCH THE 16TH 2020 AND AGAIN, WE ARE GETTING STARTED ABOUT 7:02 PM, UH, IF ANY ONE OF THE PUBLIC HAS NOT OR DIDN'T PARTICIPATE OR WATCH OUR LIVE STREAM, UH, OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING PRIORS TO THIS ONE. WE ARE BASED ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF CROW, UH, THE CORONAVIRUS AND THE UH, ACTIVE, UH, SCENARIO THAT WE HAVE HERE AT CITY. WITH ALL THE THINGS IN POSTED, WE ARE, UH, CONDUCTING ALL OF OUR MEETINGS, UH, UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE VIA THIS, UH, OFFICE THREE 65 TEAMS SOFTWARE CURRENTLY IN THIS MEETING. JUST TO VERIFY, SO ANYONE WATCHING KNOWS WHO ALL IS TAKING PART OF THIS? OH, WE HAVE MYSELF, WE HAVE MR. BELL FINANCE DIRECTOR. WE HAVE A AND BERGE COUNSELOR. MR. CAMPBELL. WE HAVE OUR ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER, MR MACAU SCHEME COUNSELOR RANDY HILL, ONE OF OUR PARKS DIRECTOR, MR JOSH KING. WE HAVE COUNSELING, GLENN AUTO, WE HAVE MR SCHOMER, THE CITY MANAGER, COUNSELOR, MR SHAWL AND COUNCIL MEMBER, MR WINTER. SO THOSE ARE ALL THE PARTIES WHO ARE ON THIS PARTICULAR STREAM. IF YOU WERE JUST WATCHING, AGAIN, THE WAY THIS WILL WORK IS EVERY TIME THAT A NEW PERSON SPEAKS, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE LIVE STREAM IS IT'S BROKEN DOWN INTO FOUR DIFFERENT QUADRANTS AND THE LAST FOUR PEOPLE WHO'VE SPOKEN WILL ALWAYS BE THE FOUR PEOPLE SHOWN ON THAT QUADRANT. SO AS A NEW PERSON SPEAKS, ONE PERSON WILL BE REMOVED AND THAT NEW PERSON SPEAKING WILL BE ADDED. SO ANYBODY WATCHING FROM HOME WILL BE ABLE TO SEE WHO'S SPEAKING, UH, AS, AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THE MEETINGS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL DO, JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE, WE WILL SLOW THIS PROCESS DOWN QUITE A BIT AS WE DID AT THE COUNCIL MEETING. WE JUST, WE JUST HAD, SO THE REASON THAT WE'RE SLOWING THIS DOWN IS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FEET HERE TO THE TECHNOLOGY CATCHES UP WITH AS PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING AS WE ARE, UH, MOVING ITEMS FORWARD FROM THE WORK SESSION WITHOUT OBJECTION ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA NEXT. SO WE WILL JUST TAKE THIS SLOW, WE'LL WORK WITH THE TECHNOLOGY. SO EVERYONE AT HOME WHO'S WATCHING, PLEASE BEAR WITH US AS WE GET THROUGH THIS. AND UM, AND I THINK THIS IS UH, THIS IS A GREAT THING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THIS. SO WITH THAT SAID THAT WE DO [2. Approval of Minutes:] HAVE ONE SET OF MINUTES TO BE APPROVED OR DID YOU, DID YOU SCRATCH OUT? OKAY, SO THERE ARE NO MEASUREMENT WORK SESSIONS. YEAH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT TOO. YEAH. SO I ANNOUNCED EVERYBODY THAT WAS IN HERE. SO FROM A COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE GOOD TO HAVE MS PAL COLE, THE ROLE FOR THE WORK SESSION. MR SHAH. MR SHAWL. YEP. IT MAKES SURE EVERYBODY'S UNMUTING YOUR MICROPHONE AS WE CALL THE ROLL. AND AS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, YOU'RE MR. CAMPBELL HERE. THIS IS BIRD. MR ODDO. MR. LYONS HERE. MR. HILL HERE. MR. WEBB PYRAMIDS AMERICORPS HERE. OKAY, SO NEXT UP. SO WE DO HAVE MINUTES OR WE DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWER SO THERE ARE NO MINUTES THAT NEED TO BE APPROVED THIS EVENING. ITEM TWO WE DON'T HAVE. AND NEXT UP WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS OUR WORK SESSION TOPICS OF DISCUSSION FOR THIS EVENING. AND ITEM THREE [ City Manager Report] IS THE CITY MANAGER REPORT. SO MR SCHOMER IF YOU WOULD GO AHEAD AND GIVE US, UH, YOUR UPDATE FOR THIS WORK SESSIONS. THANK YOU, SIR. YES, THANK YOU. IT, UH, IN AN ATTEMPT TO KEEP WITH OUR CURRENT ACTIVE STATUS AND OUR POLICY AND KEEPING MEETINGS, UH, UH, TIME LIMITED. I WILL ONLY INFORM THAT. UM, WE HAVE INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE REGARDING OUR CURRENT STATUS OF OPERATIONS. ALL CITIES ARE BUILT FOR, IT'S JUST SOME OF THE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND PERSONAL CONTACT METHODS THAT WHICH WE LIVE OR SERVICES HAVE BEEN ALTERED. UH, UH, THE CITY'S WEBSITE, H-HOW H. DOT. ORG HAS ALL INFORMATION, ALL STATEMENTS IN ORDERS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED. WE ENCOURAGE ANYBODY TO GO TO THAT AS WELL AS GOING THROUGH THE WEBSITE FOR ANY CURRENT RESOURCES ON THE AUTHORITIES OF THE EXISTING STATUS OF HEALTH CONCERNS. UH, BOTH LOCALLY THROUGH OUR PUBLIC HEALTH OF DAVE MONTGOMERY COUNTY, ALSO THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, UH, ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL, WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION [00:05:01] AND ANY FEDERAL MATES. SO, UH, WE ASK EVERYONE TO BE A PATIENT IN ANY MODIFICATIONS THAT COME OUR WAY DUE TO SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS, BUT WE, UH, OUR DILIGENCE, WE WORK HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, ANY GOVERNANCE AND DELIVERY SERVICE, UH, WILL BE PROVIDED AS IT NORMALLY WOULD BE EXPECTED TO BE. AND, UH, WE DON'T EXPECT ANY INTERRUPTIONS AT THAT AT THIS POINT. AND, UH, WE ACTUALLY LOOK FORWARD TO EXPERIENCING THE NEW WAYS OF CONDUCTING BUSINESS AND SERVING THE PUBLIC. SO WITH THAT, I'LL A YIELD THE REST OF THE TIME SO WE CAN BEGIN TO THE AGENDA PORTION OF THE MEETING. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. AND BEFORE WE DO MOVE ON, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST TO GIVE ANYONE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR MR SCHOMER, UH, REGARDING ANY ITEMS ADDRESSED IN THE SAME AS REPORT BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE B. OKAY. NOT HEARING ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, WE [ Supplemental Appropriations] WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM B, WHICH IS A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS. MR. BELL. GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. I HAVE A THREE SUPPLEMENTAL ITEMS FOR YOU TONIGHT. UH, THE FIRST ONE BEING A $61,856 AND 39 CENTS, AND THIS IS A, AN ADVANCE TO BE RETURNED BACK TO THE GASOLINE TAX LINE FROM THE CARRIAGE TRAILS INFRASTRUCTURE FUND. UH, AS YOU KNOW, UH, LAST YEAR WE BEGAN RECEIVING SIB LOANS, UH, STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK LOANS FOR CARRIAGE TRAILS DEVELOPMENT AND UH, W WHAT WE DO IS WE PRE-FUND IT BY SENDING MONEY, UH, TO THE CARRIAGE TRAILS FUND FROM THE GASOLINE TAX FUND. AND THEN AS THE CIBOLA MONIES COME IN, WE REPAY THAT MONEY AND I HAD ANTICIPATED THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT TO FULLY BE RETURNED LAST YEAR THAT WERE NOT THE CASE. SO BE RETURNED THIS YEAR AS THOSE FUNDS GET SPENT AND WE GET THE SIB LOAN DOLLARS FOR THAT. SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THIS. IT WAS NOT A BUDGETED AS BECAUSE WE THOUGHT WE WOULD SPEND IT ALL IN 19. THE SECOND ITEM IS A $5,400. UM, IT'S A COMBINATION. IT'S A DECREASE IN THE POLICE SALARY ACCOUNT, BUT AN INCREASE IN THE OPERATIONS ACCOUNT OF, UH, TRAINING A NEW HIRE. UH, THIS IS A RARE SITUATION WHERE WE, UM, UH, PAID FOR A POLICE ACADEMY TRAINING FOR A NEW HIRE BEFORE THEY WERE HIRED ON BECAUSE THEY CAME FROM ANOTHER STATE. AND SO THE POLICE CHIEF LEITNER HAD ASKED ME TO TAKE $5,400 FROM THE SALARY ACCOUNT, WHICH OBVIOUSLY THE PERSON HADN'T STARTED YET AND WE HAD THOUGHT THEY WOULD START EARLIER THAN THIS AND UH, BUT IT WAS NEEDED FOR TRAINING. SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO JUST TRANSFER IT BETWEEN A PERSONNEL ACCOUNT AND OPERATIONS ACCOUNT. SO NO INCREASE TO THE ENTIRE BUDGET OF THE LAST ITEM IS $102,000 ADDITION TO THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY BUDGET. AND I LISTED THE ITEMS THAT I RECEIVED FROM, UH, BRANDON PEYTON, UH, FOR THE ITEMS THAT ARE, UH, HAVE JUST BEEN RECENTLY IDENTIFIED AS NEEDS THAT WILL TAKE PLACE THIS YEAR. AND, UH, THOSE ITEMS WERE SENT OUT IN YOUR COUNCIL PACKET TOTALING $102,000. THAT'S AN ESTIMATE. AND SO SINCE THE FIRST TWO ITEMS WERE TRANSFERS BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS OR FUNDS, AND THE ONLY ITEM THAT IS A, ACTUALLY A TRUE FISCAL IMPACT OR ADDITION TO THE BUDGET IS $102,000. THAT IS THE TOTAL FISCAL IMPACT THAT I'M PRESENTING, UH, FOR APPROVAL, UH, TONIGHT AND HOPEFULLY FOR THE MONDAY COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. BELL. UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MR. BELL REGARDING THESE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS? YES, MRS. BURCH . UM, MR. BELL, WE JUST APPROVED OUR BUDGET, UM, IN OCTOBER OR THE END OF THE YEAR. UM, DO YOU KNOW WHY I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, WITH THE, UH, ITEMS THAT THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED, BUT THAT'S A HUGE OF MONEY THAT I DON'T THINK WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE, IN THE BUDGET FOR LAST YEAR. ROB, MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER WHY, WHY DIDN'T WE, YEAH, I'LL JUMP IN THERE. YEAH. SO I'LL JUMP IN THERE, UH, WITH THE, UM, WITH THE MOVEMENTS OF SOME OF THE END OF LIFE OF SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES, UH, THAT, UH, ARE EXISTING IN BOTH THE, UH, UM, TAX SERVER FOR THE UPGRADE FOR THE NEW TECH SOFTWARE, UH, AS WELL AS THE UPDATES THAT WE, UH, HAVE DONE. UM, UH, FOR THE LOCATION SYSTEM, WHICH IS, UH, THE INTERCONNECTION BETWEEN, UH, BOTH OUR COMMUNITY AND SOME OF THE OTHER DISPATCH CENTERS THAT HAVE STATION HOUSE ALERTING FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. UH, THOSE THINGS ARE BASICALLY SOONER THAN LATER. SO ALTHOUGH THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN PLANNED FOR CAPITAL EXPENSES ON THE 2021 SEASON, WE WILL BACK THOSE OFF AND THEY BASICALLY WILL BE INCORPORATED FOR THIS. SO THEY WERE AN ANTICIPATED, UH, BASED ON SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS [00:10:01] OF THE END OF LIFE OF SOME SYSTEMS DURING THE APPROVED UPGRADES THAT WE PLAN TO DO. PRIMARILY THE TAX FOR UPGRADES. UM, THE FIBER TO TAX AND WATER OFFICES IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE DID NOT KNOW EXISTED. THERE'S EXISTING FIBER IN THE BUILDING AND WE ALWAYS LIKE TO HAVE FIBER CONNECTION AND REDUNDANCY, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING, UH, THE, THE BANDWIDTH AND THE UH, UM, RELIABILITY OF THAT CONNECTION. CURRENTLY WE'RE DOING AN OVER THE AIR POINT TO POINT. SO THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT CAME UPON US THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE WHEN WE, UH, ORIGINALLY BUDGETED. AND THAT'S A SMALL PORTION OF THE OVERALL EXPENSE THAT'S LISTED THERE. UM, THE FIREBALL COMPUTERS AGAIN ARE SIMILAR TO THE POLICE COMPUTERS THAT WE, UM, RECENTLY PASSED I BELIEVE LAST MEETING REGARDING THE END OF LIFE FOR WINDOWS SEVEN. IT'S TRUE. SO IT IS ALL BASED ON A LOT OF THE TECHNOLOGY UPGRADE OR A BOOT AND THEN FINDING OUT THE END OF LIFE REQUIREMENTS FROM MICROSOFT AT THE END OF, I BELIEVE IT WAS AT THE END OF APRIL OF THIS YEAR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, THANK YOU MRS. BURCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS THIS EVENING? OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS MOVING THESE SUPPLEMENTALS UH, ON TO MONDAY'S COUNCIL MEETING? YEAH. OKAY. HAVE YOU ALREADY OBJECTIONS? SO, UH, THOSE SUPPLEMENTALS SHALL BE MOVED TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. NEXT [ 2020 Street Program - Award Contract] UP AS ITEM NUMBER THREE C, WHICH IS OUR 20 20TH STREET PROGRAM AWARDING THAT CONTRACT. IS THAT MR BURR, MR BERGMAN IS WITH MR MCCALSKY. I BELIEVES THAT, CORRECT? OH YES. THIS IS RUSS BERGMAN, A CITY ENGINEER. UH, I CAN HANDLE THE NEXT TWO ITEMS. THE FIRST ONE IS THE 2020 STREET PROGRAM. THIS IS ANNUAL LEGISLATION WE DO, UH, WITH THAT PROGRAM. THIS IS FOR AWARDING CONTRACTS. UH, IN YOUR PACKET THERE'S BID TABULATION, UH, TWO SECTIONS WHERE WE'RE IN THERE. SECTION A WAS FOR MILLING AND PAVING OF ALL THE STREETS THAT, UH, WE HAD LISTED WITH THE LAST LEGISLATION WE HAD DONE. AND THOSE STREETS WILL BE PLACED ON OUR WEBSITE PROBABLY NEXT WEEK AFTER WE APPROVE THIS. UH, THERE WERE TWO BITTERS, UH, BARRETT PAVING AND JOHN R JERGENSON. UM, THOSE TWO COMPANIES ARE THEIR MAIN, UH, ASPHALT COMPANY. IS THAT, ARE THERE ONES THAT STILL DO THE WORK? AND IN THIS CASE, A LITTLE BITTER WAS JOHN R JURGENSON AT 1,088,000, $147. THAT WAS ABOUT 36,000 MORE THAN THE SECOND LITTLE BITTER. UH, SO WE WOULD LIKE TO AWARD THAT SECTION TO THEM. A SECTION B IS A ADDITION OF RECLAMATION TO CERTAIN STREETS THAT WERE JUST PUT ON AFTER THE PAVING. UH, WE USUALLY DO MINOR STREETS SUCH AS CALLED THE SACKS AND THINGS ON THAT. UH, IT PROLONGS THE LIFE OF THE PAVEMENT, USUALLY FIVE TO 10 YEARS. UH, THERE WAS ONLY ONE BID, WHICH IS PAVEMENT TECHNOLOGIES FOR $19,274. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO AWARD SECTION B TO THEM. UM, ALSO IN THE LEGISLATION THERE'S $15,000 FOR BOWZER OR MORTAR FOR INSPECTION SERVICES DURING THE PAVING AND FOR TESTING OF THE PAVING. UM, FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM IS THROUGH THE STREET CAPITOL, UH, WHICH IS THE STREET LOBBY AND UH, THE NEW GAS TAX FUNDS. UM, THE LEGISLATION WILL BE ON THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AND I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, I APPRECIATE THAT. UH, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, UM, FOR A CITY ENGINEER REGARDING, UH, THE AWARDING OF THESE TWO CONTRACTS. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS BID FORWARD TO MONDAY'S COUNCIL MEETING? OKAY. SEEING NONE. WE'LL MOVE THAT FORWARD. AND THE NEXT UP, MR. BURTON IS GOING TO TAKE THIS AND ALSO YOU SAID THE 2020, WHICH IS ITEM [ 2020 Sidewalk Program and Concrete Portion of the 2020 Street Program - Award Contract] THREE D THE 2020 SIDEWALK PROGRAM AND A CONCRETE PORTION OF THE 2020 STREET PROGRAM AWARDING THAT CONTRACT. SO YES, MR BERGEN. YES. UH, THIS ONE IS ALSO, UH, OUR ANNUAL LEGISLATION. UH, THIS IS TO AWARD CONTRACTS. UH, THEY'LL ALSO, THERE'S A BID TEMPTATION IN YOUR PACKET. UH, THIS ONE, THERE'S THREE SECTIONS, A SECTION A WAS FOR REPLACING OF SIDEWALKS AND A DRIVE VERY BURNS, UM, FOR THE AREAS THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE MAP THAT WE HAD AT THE LAST. UM, LET'S LOOK FOR THE LAST LEGISLATION AND ALSO THAT WILL BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE. UM, WE HAD FOUR BIDDERS FOR SECTION A AND MULTITASK CONSTRUCTION WAS THE LOW AT $116,723 AND 50 CENTS. AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO AWARD THAT TO, UH, THAT COMPANY. UM, SECTION B WAS FOR RAISING IT OR LEVELING CONCRETE, THE SIDEWALK. UH, WE, OH, THERE'S ONLY ONE COMPANY LOCALLY THAT DOES THAT AND IT'S A, A ONE CONCRETE LEVELING AND THEY'RE AT A 2000, $470. SO THAT, THAT'S THE COMPANY WE'D LIKE A WORD THAT SECTION TWO, UH, SECTION C IS CONCRETE PORTION OF [00:15:01] THE STREET PROGRAM. WHAT THAT IS, IS THE CURBING WE DO EVERY YEAR. UH, WE HAD THREE BITTERS FOR THAT. ALSO MULTITASK WAS THE LOW FOR THAT AT 750, 6,000, $435. SO WE'D LIKE TO AWARD THAT TO THEM. A FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM IS, UM, UH, ALSO THROUGH THIS, WELL THROUGH THE SIDEWALK FUNDS AND THROUGH A STATE CAPITOL FUNDS. UH, LEGISLATION WILL BE ON NEXT WEEK'S MEETING. UM, THEN ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR BERGMAN REGARDING THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM AND THE CONCRETE PORTION? YEAH, RUSS, UH, NEAR TO BIRCH HERE. UM, HAVE WE HAD ANY, HAVE WE HAD EXPERIENCED IN THE PAST WITH MULTITASK? YES, WE'VE DONE NUMEROUS, A COUPLE OF PROGRAMS ALREADY WITH THEM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING SIDEWALK PROGRAM CONTRACT WITH WARDING? OKAY. DO I HEAR ANY OBJECTIONS MOVING THIS FORWARD TO MONDAY'S COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND NEXT UP IS ITEM [ Thomas Cloud Park Paving Project] THREE E WHICH IS A THOMAS CLUB PARK PAVING PROJECT. UH, IS THAT GOING TO MR MCKOWSKI OR, UH, MR SCHUMMER WHO'S GOING TO HANDLE THAT ONE? I'LL, I'LL TAKE THAT ONE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. SO I'M OUT AT THOMAS CLOUD PARK. THERE IS A, UH, ONE OF THE PARKING LOTS OUT THERE THAT IS IN A STATE OF DISREPAIR. UH, SO THERE'S A LOT OF CRACKING IN IT AND SOME LOW AREAS MARRIES THAT HAVE SETTLED. SO WE WANTED TO LOOK AT, UH, FIXING THAT PORTION OF THE, THE PARKING LOT. AND ORIGINALLY, UH, JOSH WENT OUT AND LOOKED FOR THREE QUOTES, NOT KNOWING HOW MUCH, UH, UH, THE, THE, THE COST WAS GOING TO BE, UM, THOSE THREE QUOTES ALL CAME IN ABOVE THE $25,000 THRESHOLD TO GO OUT TO BID. SO FROM THAT WE DID SEND IT OUT TO BID. WE INCLUDE IT IN THE STREET PROGRAM PORTION AS A SEPARATE ITEM, UH, FOR BID. THREE NEW QUOTES CAME IN FROM THAT BID. UH, SO WE HAD A TOTAL OF SIX QUOTES OVERALL, THE LOWEST QUOTE, IT WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL ONES, SO IT WAS NOT PART OF THE PUBLIC BID. SO THAT IS WAGNER PAVING AT A 52,000, $975. SO WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS TO WAIVE THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING PROCESS TO ALLOW US TO GO WITH THAT LOW BID. THEY ARE DEFINITELY A REPUTABLE COMPANY THAT HAS DONE PAVING AROUND HERE ALL WE FEEL THAT WE GOT SIX BIDS ON THIS SO WE DON'T SEE A REASON OF TRYING TO GO OUT AND REBID THE WHOLE THING, UM, ON ITS OWN. UM, WE FEEL THAT THE 50 OR ALMOST $53,000 IS A GOOD NUMBER. UM, IT RANGED UP TO 93,000. UM, AND FROM THAT THE THREE AND DID DOUBLE CHECK THAT, UH, EVERYBODY'S, UH, BENDING OFF ALL THE SAME SPECIFICATIONS AND WE'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A WAGNER PAVING. CAN YOU TALK, JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE UNDERSTANDING, SO BY WHAT EVEN SO BY WAIVING THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR BID, IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO ALLOW US TO GO WITH THE LOWEST BID THEY'VE ALREADY GOT. IT WAS JUST OUTSIDE OF THE BID WINDOW. THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. IT WAS A COUGHS OSCAR MAYER, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. SOMEBODY IS PLAYING THE LIVE STREAM IN THE BACKGROUND WHILE WATCHING THE VIDEO. SO WHOEVER MIGHT BE DOING THAT, COULD WE ASK YOU TO MUTE YOUR MICROPHONE OR DISCONNECT THE LIVE STREAM? YEAH, IT RANGED UP TO 93,000 AND IT'S FROM EIGHTH GRADE AND DID DOUBLE CHECK THAT, UH, EVERYBODY'S UH, BENDING ON THE FALLS SPECIFICATIONS AND WE'D LIKE TO MOVE. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M NOT GOING TO ASK ANYBODY TO RAISE HER HAND TO SEE WHO IS DOING THAT, BUT, WELL YOU MAY, BUT ALL RIGHT, SO, SO, SO SCOTT, I SEE YOU LAUGHING. I'LL SAY YOU SAY NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE CAUSE I DIDN'T CHANGE IT. I'M JUST USING SO, SO, SO YEAH. SO IN ORDER FOR US TO, BY WAVING THE ACTUAL, UM, THE, THE BIDDING, THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENT IS GOING TO GET US TO THE ACTUAL LOWEST BID BECAUSE THE BID THAT WE RECEIVED WAS OUTSIDE DEBIT WINDOW. IS THAT CORRECT? I'M JUST WONDERING. I'M SAYING THAT THAT IS CORRECT. IT IS A LOWER BID THAT WHAT CAME THROUGH THE PUBLIC BID PROCESS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR FALKOWSKI REGARDING THE PENDING PROJECT AT TOM COD PARK? MAYOR? YES. IS IT MR WEBBER? YES SIR. YES. UM, MR , [00:20:01] UM, YOU MENTIONED THE DIFFERENCE IN LOOKING AT HER NUMBERS HERE. UH, FROM THE TOP IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S 95, NINE, UH, TO, UH, THE UH, BED YOU'RE PROPOSING IT'S 52, NINE AND, AND ADD NEARLY DOUBLED OR YOU DIDN'T SEE ANY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THESE BEDS. UM, WE LOOKED AT EVERY ONE OF THOSE COMPANIES, UM, AND SOME OF THE LARGER COMPANIES OR SOME OF THE COMPANIES SUB PORTIONS, SO THAT INCREASES SOME OF THEIR COSTS BY NOT DOING EVERYTHING THEMSELVES. SO GOING WITH A DIRECT PAVING COMPANY LIKE WAGNER PAVING, THERE'S SOME SAVINGS THAT THEY DO ALL THE WORK THEMSELVES. SO THAT THAT'S WHERE WE'VE SEEN SOME OF THE DIFFERENCE IN, UM, THOSE COSTS. AND MS SAID WE DID GO THROUGH EACH LINE ITEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE, I'M SORRY SCOTT, SORRY TO INTERRUPT. PER OUR POLICY, IF IT APPEARS, IF SOMEBODY IS DISCONNECTED, WE ARE TO STOP UNTIL THEY'RE RECONNECTED. UH, IT APPEARS AS IF MR. SHAW WAS NO LONGER IN, UH, THE LIST OF CURRENTLY IN THE MEETINGS. OKAY. LET ME, UH, LET ME, UH, I ASKED, UH, WE CEASED DELIBERATION UNTIL SUCH TIME. WE CAN GET MR SHAWL BACK ONLINE. OKAY. I DID HIT HIM UP. HE SAID HIS DOG HIT THE ROUTER, KNOCKED IT OUT. HE'S FIXING IT. RIGHT. OKAY. VERY GOOD. WELL PER OUR POLICY, UH, IF WE WOULD JUST CEASE DELIBERATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS UNTIL SUCH TIME, WE CAN UH, GET ALL UH, ALL ATTENDEES BACK ONLINE. UH, WE WILL, UH, I'M SURE HE'S WORKING FEVERISH, LEADING CADET TEAM CARRYING WEIGHT. WE ARE PAUSING THE MEETING CAUSE THE DOG ATE MR SHAW'S HOMEWORK AND WHILE WE'RE WAITING I THINK IT WHILE WE'RE WAITING. I THINK THAT DOES, IT DOES SHOW WELL THAT BOTH THE POLICY POLICY AND THE TECHNOLOGY, EVEN IF IT'S A GLITCH, IT DOES NOTIFY US. WE ARE ABLE TO VISUALLY REFERENCE AND WITNESS WHO ALWAYS LIVE AND ON THE MEETING AND WE CAN FOLLOW THE PREMISE OF OUR POLICY TO MAKE SURE ALL IS ALL AS WELL. SO I'M NOT SAYING IT'S GOOD IT HAPPENED, BUT WE'RE TESTING EVERYTHING TODAY. YES. SO HE SAID HE'S GETTING READY TO SIGN BACK? YEAH. OKAY. SORRY. I WAS GOING TO SAY JUST WHEN I, UH, BECAUSE AS OF RIGHT NOW WHEN I INVITE HIM BACK TO THE MEETING IT SAYS UNAVAILABLE. SO I WAS JUST GOING TO HAVE HIM LET ME KNOW WHEN HE IS READY. MY SIDEWAYS AGAIN. I LOCKED JUST FREE WILL. THAT'S BEEN ANOTHER WAY. WATCH THIS IS RIDICULOUS. WELL IT'S ALL THOSE, WHAT ELSE GIVES YOU TO LOOK DOWN AT SCOTT SCOTT, YOU NEED TO LOOK UP AT DAY LIKE THE BRADY BUNCH. OH YEAH. WE DID THAT IN OUR TEST. IT WAS PRETTY MUSIC ASSIGNMENT. SOUNDS LIKE SOMEBODY STILL HAS THE LIVESTREAM GOING. IS THAT COMING FROM THE DIOCESE? IS THAT THE AUDIO COME FROM THERE? YEAH, NO, NO. SOMEBODY WATCHING THE LIVE STREAM IT'S STILL SHOWING MR SHAWL IS UNAVAILABLE. SO WE'LL TRY AGAIN. UH, WE CAN, UH, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO, IF WE CAN'T CONNECT, WE DO HAVE THE BACKUP THAT WE CAN HAVE MR SHAWL PHONE IN AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO WHAT FROM HIS, UM, HIS PRESENCE IN ATTENDANT AUDIBLY. IS THAT CALLING? IS THAT CALLING A PHONE A FRIEND? SOMETHING LIKE THAT? NOBODY STILL HAS THE LIVESTREAM GOING. IS THAT COMING FROM, IS THAT THE AUDIO COME FROM THERE. HEAR HERE AGAIN IS WATCHING THOSE STREAMS THAT IS IN PROTECTED INTO THE, UH, THE VIDEO CALL. I THINK WE CAN, UH, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO, IF WE CAN'T CONNECT, WE DO HAVE THE CONTINGENCY BACKUP THAT WE COULD HAVE. MR WOULD BE ABLE TO CONFIRM HIS ATTENDANCE. YEAH, I COULD HEAR THAT. LIKE GO TO FRED, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. [00:25:03] YEAH. THERE'S WATCHING THOSE SCREEN. THEY GET INTO THE, THE UH, THE VIDEO CALL I BELIEVE. WE HAVE MR. SHAW BACK. HIS MICROPHONE IS MUTED, BUT I DO SEE THAT HE HAS RE REENTERED THE MEETING. I APOLOGIZE. SORRY ABOUT THAT GUYS. WE'VE GOT RICHARD BACK. RICHARD IS BACK. YUP, I'M HERE. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WE'RE JUST, WE ARE HITTING SOME JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT, WHERE THE FEEDBACK IS COMING FROM. SO, MR MAYOR, WE COULD JUST HAVE A, IF WE COULD JUST HAVE EVERYBODY, BUT YOU MUTE JEFF RIGHT NOW IS MS BERGE OKAY. JUST WENT AWAY. SO, OKAY. SO I GUARANTEE YOU I'M NOT WATCHING IT. OKAY. SO, OKAY. VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T HEAR ANY OF THAT. I DON'T HEAR ANY FEEDBACK COMING, COMING BACK DOWN. SO IT JUST, IT JUST WENT AWAY. WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. SO I THINK WE WERE AT, UM, WE WERE, UH, MR MURKOWSKI WAS EXPLAINING, MR. WEBB HAD A QUESTION REGARDING, UH, SUCH THE, THE LARGE VARIANCE BETWEEN THE, UH, COUPLE OF BIDS THAT WE HAD. MR FALKOWSKI WAS EXPLAINING THE DIFFERENCE WAS, UH, ONE OF THESE CONTRACT, THE CONTRACTOR WHO HAD THE LOWEST BID, UH, LOUIS LAGGER PAVING DOES MOST THE WORK THEMSELVES. THEY DON'T SUBCONTRACT THAT WORK OUT. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG DIFFERENCES THAT WE HAD SEEN IN THE COST SAVINGS WITH WAGNER PAVING. SO, UH, IF, IF I HAVE ASSESSED THAT DIFFERENTLY OR OR WRONG, MR KOSKI, IF YOU WOULD, UH, YOU COULD EXPLAIN IF, IF THAT IS RIGHT AND THEN THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS MOVING FORWARD. UH, WE WOULD, UH, ARE NO OBJECTIONS. WE WOULD MOVE THAT ON TO MONDAY'S MEETING. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION OR ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING, UH, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM ON TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY. I'M NOT HEARING ANY OBJECTIONS. SO WE WILL MOVE THAT PAVING PROJECT AT THOMAS CLUB PARK TO MONDAY'S MEETING. [ Recreation Trails Grant Application - Dial Park] SO NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM THREE F WHICH IS THE RECREATION TRAILS GRANT APPLICATION, UH, DIAL PARK. SO MR. KING, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THAT IS WHY YOU ARE, UH, ON OUR, ON OUR CALL THIS EVENING. SO ANY INFORMATION YOU HAVE FOR US, THAT'D BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. MR MAYOR. YES, LARGE SECOND WAS THE DEADLINE FOR THE, UH, RECREATIONAL TRAILS PROGRAM AND THE CLEAN OHIO TRAILS FUND GRANT TO BE TURNED IN. UM, WITH THAT GRANT, UH, WE ARE GOING TO BE USING THAT IF WE'RE AWARDED TO THE DIAL PARK, UH, PROPERTY IN ORDER TO PUT IN A OPEN LOOP TRAIL SYSTEM AND A IN THE WOODS TRAIL SYSTEM AS WELL. UM, OPEN LOOP WILL BE A GRAVEL TRAIL THAT KINDA GOES ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE PARK AND IT LEADS INTO THE WOODED TRAIL SYSTEM, WHICH WILL BE UM, THERE TO BE USED FOR HIKING, WALKING OR MOUNTAIN BIKING. UM, THE UH, TOTAL ASK FOR THAT PROJECT THAT WE HAVE FOR THOSE TWO PORTIONS IS A 168,513 AND WE ARE ASKING FOR ASSISTANCE FOR THE TWO FOR ABOUT 103,958 TRANS PROGRAM AND THE CLEANERS ROUGHLY, UM, LIKE 61 AND A HALF PERCENT AS WE ARE GOING TO USING THAT IF AWARDED TO THE DIAL TARGETS. UM, SO UH, THEY'LL MAKE DECISIONS ON THAT, I ASSUME IN OCTOBER UNLESS THINGS GET SLOWED DOWN MORE BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON NOW. SO YEAH. AND MR SCHOMER, I THINK YOU WERE TRYING TO GET MY ATTENTION AGAIN. I THINK I WAS WRITING SOME STUFF DOWN, BUT I'M HEARING SOME FEEDBACK AGAIN. I MEAN I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S GOING TO BE, IS THAT PORTRAYING THROUGH THE LIVE STREAM OR DO WE KNOW OR IS THAT SPECIFIC TO JUST KIND OF WHAT OUR FEEDBACK IS HERE IN THE, IT IS EXACT DELAY TO THE LIVE STREAM. SO I'M TRYING TO NARROW IT DOWN NOW. SHALL WE PAUSE FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES SO WE FIGURED THAT OUT OR, OR WE JUST GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO, UM, TO ITEM THREE G I'LL SAY IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE AFFECTING THE LIVESTREAM. I MEAN IT'S, ANDY'S GOT IT ON IN ANOTHER ROOM. YEAH. IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE AFFECTING LIVESTREAM AT ALL. OKAY. OKAY. AND IT'S SILENT NOW. OKAY. SO IT IS NOT OCCURRING RIGHT NOW. OKAY. SO AS LONG AS WE CAN, UH, GET THROUGH, UH, GET THROUGH THE NEXT COUPLE OF ITEMS THEN WITH ANY ANNOYANCE THAT WE HAVE HERE LOCALLY WITH [00:30:01] US AS LONG AS NOT AFFECTING THE LIVE STREAM. AND I THINK, I THINK WE'RE, OKAY. [ Park Name Change - Menlo/Kittyhawk Park] SO NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE G, WHICH IS A PARK NAME CHANGE OF MENLO IN KITTY HAWK PARK. UH, MR. KING. YEAH. THAT'S, UM, FOR THE CONFUSION UP THERE WITH THE DOG PARK. WITH THAT ALWAYS BEING CALLED MID LOWER KITTY HAWK PARK. UM, WE ARE PROPOSING TO JUST CHANGE THE NAME OF IT TO KITTY HAWK PARK, UH, THAT WILL GO THROUGH THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD. THEY KIND OF CREATED A POLICY FOR A PARK CHANGING NAMES AND ALSO NAMING OF, I GUESS NEW PARKS AS WELL. UM, SO IN ORDER NOT TO STEP AROUND THEM, UH, WE'RE GOING TO SEND THAT TO THEM FOR THEIR NEXT MEETING. BUT, UH, I BELIEVE THEY'RE LOOKING AT JUST KITTY HAWK PARK. SO THE DOG PARK CAN BE, YOU KNOW, FLYER FIELD AT KITTY HAWK PARK INSTEAD OF THE CONFUSION OF ALWAYS HAVING THE MENLO SLASH KITTY HAWK PARK. GOTCHA. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT, THAT CERTAINLY MAKES, CERTAINLY MAKES SENSE SINCE THE DOG PARK IS FLIER FIELD AND MENLO IS ASSOCIATED WITH THOMAS EDISON, SO THAT WOULD CERTAINLY GET RID OF THAT CONFUSION. SO. OKAY. UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, ABOUT THAT PARK NAME CHANGE? UH, FOR WE AGREE OR ANY OBJECTION TO MOVE THIS ON TO MONDAY'S MEETING? I'VE GOT NO OBJECTION. SORRY. MR SHAWL WAS THAT WELL, I JUST SAY AN OBJECTION. OH, YOU HAVE NO OBJECTIONS OR YOU DO? I DO NOT. DO NOT. OKAY. ANY OTHER OBJECTIONS? UH, TO MOVING THIS ITEM ON TO MONDAY'S MEETING. OKAY. [ Board and Commission Appointments * Citizens Water And Sewer Advisory Board] AND NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM THREE H WHICH IS BOARD AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS. UH, WE HAVE, UH, FOR THE CITIZENS WATER AND SEWER ADVISORY BOARD. MS PAL. THANK YOU. UM, YOU KNOW WE HAVE TWO BOARDS OF VACANCIES. THE FIRST CITIZENS WANTED A SUPERVISORY BOARD. UM, THE CITY STAFF, CITY COUNCIL INTERVIEW PANEL INTERVIEWED, UH, MR. TANNER BANKS AND BACKGROUND CHECK WAS COMPLETED. THERE WAS NO ADVERSE INFORMATION AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, THE NEXT MEETING AND TO APPOINT HIM TO THE WATER SYSTEMS, WATER SEWER ADVISORY BOARD. OKAY. AND THEN NEXT WOULD BE, WAS THERE JUST ONE VACANCY FOR, UH, FOR WATER AND SEWER OR ARE WE ON OR WAS IT ANOTHER ONE? IT'S ON THE SEPARATE BOARD. OKAY. SO THEN THE NEXT ONE IS THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE REVIEW BOARD. AND THEN MR. GLENN WAS INTERVIEWED FOR THE POSITION ON THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE REVIEW BOARD. THE BACKGROUND CHECK AND REFERENCE CHECK WAS COMPLETED ON THIS OR DELAHUNT HOT AND THERE WAS NO ADVERSE INFORMATION REPORTED TO HUMAN RESOURCES. WE RECOMMEND THE SALSA GO TO NEXT MEETING FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU MS. BELL. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO UH, MR. BANKS AND MR DYLAN BEING UH, ALL APPOINTED OR ON THE AGENDA FOR THE CITIZENS WATER AND SEWER ADVISORY BOARD? AGAIN, THAT'D BE MR. BANKS AND UH, MR DELAHUNT FOR THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE REVIEW BOARD. ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING INTO MONDAY'S MEETING? OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE THOSE TWO APPOINTMENTS TO THAT MEETING. AND NEXT UP [ City Code - Supplement 4 - Adopting Ordinance] IS ITEM NUMBER THREE I, WHICH IS A CITY CODE SUPPLEMENT FOR ADOPTING OF AN ORDINANCE. IS THAT MR SCHOMER? MR MCCALSKY? THAT'S ME. OH, OKAY. OKAY. THIS ORDINANCE IS TO ADOPT SOMETHING IN THE FOUR TO THE CITY CODE, WHICH COVERS THE PERIOD OF SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2019 TO FEBRUARY 10TH, 2020. A APPROPRIATE LEGAL NOTICE OF THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN ADVERTISED AS REQUIRED IN THE HEBREW HEIGHTS CITY CHARTER. WE WOULD ASK THIS BE PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND THIS WILL GO THROUGH TWO READINGS. OKAY. ANY OBJECTIONS OR I WOULD ASK QUESTIONS FIRST OF MS PAL FOR THAT, UH, UH, ORDINANCE ADOPTION. AND IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATION, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT? MOVING FORWARD TO MONDAY'S MEETING. OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE. ITEM THREE ION. NEXT UP [ Ward 3 Councilmember - Public Records Training Designee] IS ITEM THREE G THREE J WHICH IS THE WARD THREE COUNCIL PUBLIC RECORDS TRAINING DESIGNEE. MS PAL. YEAH. UNDER OHIO LAW, ALL APPOINTED OR ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE TO ATTEND TO PUBLIC RECORDS TRAINING SEMINAR OR APPOINTED DESIGNEE. UM, THIS REALLY RESOLUTION DOESN'T NEED THE CORPORATE COUNSEL, ANTHONY ROGERS, TO ATTEND THIS TRAINING ON THIS COUNSELING BAKER'S BEHALF. MS. BAKER MAY ATTEND THE TRAINING, BUT THIS DESIGNATION IS SHORES. THE TRAINING REQUIREMENT IS MAT AND THE DENTAL COUNCIL MEMBER IS UNABLE TO ATTEND. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, REGARDING THE PUBLIC RECORDS TRAINED DESIGNEE, UH, TO MR. ROGERS. ANY OBJECTIONS? MOVING THAT ON TO MONDAY'S MEETING. OKAY. SO THAT DOES TAKE CARE OF ALL THESE ITEMS THAT WERE ON OUR WORK SESSION AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING. UH, NEXT UP IS JUST THE GERMAN. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR, UH, PARTICIPATING, BEING OPEN, AVAILABLE. I KNOW, AGAIN, THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT PROCESS. I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND THE WAY WE KIND [00:35:01] OF WORK THROUGH THIS. UH, FOR ANYONE LISTENING, AGAIN, WE APOLOGIZE FOR ANYTHING GLITCHES, BUT, UH, HOPEFULLY OVER THE NEXT WE'LL JUST SAY MAYBE TWO OR THREE MEETINGS WE HAVE, UH, WE WORK ON GETTING INTO THOSE GLITCHES, UH, REMOVED AND WORKED OUT OR AT LEAST WHERE WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE AND WHAT'S CAUSING THEM AND WE CAN REMOVE THEM QUICKLY. UH, I DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE TAKING THE TIME TO, UH, TO WATCH, TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON. UH, WE DO APPRECIATE THAT. AND AGAIN, UH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE LAST MENTION THAT AS WE MOVE ON TO ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SUBMIT TO US, BE PART OF THE CITIZENS' COMMENTS OR TO SPEAK ON ANY SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA. IT IS PUBLIC MEETING ALL ONE WORD, NO DOTS, NO HYPHENS, JUST PUBLIC MEETING AT H H O H. DOT. ORG. AND WE ACCEPT ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR FOR DISCUSSION ON THOSE TWO AGENDA ITEMS UP TO ONE HOUR PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. SO WITH THAT SAID, UH, I GUESS I WOULD, I'M JUST KIND OF IN A MEETING THE WAY IT WENT THE FIRST TIME, UH, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, IF THERE IS ANYBODY HAVING, THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD OR OFFER BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I'D OPEN IT UP AT THIS TIME. FIRST GO AROUND. I SAID, I'D SAY WE DID PRETTY DECENT. YEAH, I, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS AND SERRATO. YEP. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE ADJOURN FOR THE SYDNEY? I HAVE A NICE EVENING. OKAY. IT IS SEVEN 38. AND UH, THIS WORK SESSION FOR MARCH 16TH IS NOW ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.