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[ AGENDA CITY PLANNING COMMISSION City Governance Center - Council Chambers 6151 Brandt Pike October 13, 2026 6:00 P.M. ]
I SHOULD CALL THE MEETING WITH CITY HUBER HEIGHTS PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER.SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. JOHNSON? HERE.
IS ANYONE ELSE ON THE DAIS? NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZEN'S COMMENTS.
THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR ANY CITIZENS' COMMENTS NOT PERTAINING TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
IN HEARING NONE WE'LL MOVE ON WITH SWEARING OF WITNESSES.
I ANNOUNCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RULES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ANYONE WHO MAY WISH TO SPEAK OR GIVE TESTIMONY REGARDING THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN.
SO I'LL ASK EVERYONE TO STAND, RAISE THEIR RIGHT HAND, RESPOND I DO.
TO THE FOLLOWING OF DO YOU HEREBY SWEAR OR AFFIRM ON THE THREAT OF PERJURY TO TELL PERJURY TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD.
I ALSO ASK EVERYONE TO, UH, THAT DOES SPEAK TONIGHT AT THE PODIUM TO GIVE THEIR NAME.
'CAUSE WE, FOR SOME REASON UP HERE, THE AUDIO IS NOT EXACTLY WHAT WE THINK, UM, ANYWAY, AND, UH, STATE THEIR NAME AND, AND SIGN IN ON THE SIGN IN SHEET.
PROVIDED WE HAVE NO PENDING BUSINESS, OUR FIRST NEW BUSINESS IS A REPL.
THE APPLICANT CARRIED TRAILS COMPANY LLC IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A REPL OF SECTION 20, PHASE TWO, WHERE THE SIDES SETBACKS HAVE BEEN MODIFIED FROM 7.5 FEET TO FIVE FEET TO STAY CONSISTENT WITH THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF CARRIAGE TRAILS, UH, NORTH CARRIAGE TRAILS PARKWAY, RP 26 29.
MS. HAYES, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSION.
SO, UH, TODAY WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING, CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME OKAY? YES.
SO TODAY WE ARE GONNA BE LOOKING AT A REPL REPL FOR CARRIAGE TRAILS TO SECTION 20, PHASE TWO.
UM, TO KIND OF GO OVER, UH, WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY SEEN WHEN THIS CAME TO YOU AS A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THEY HAD A SETBACK OF 7.5 ACROSS ALL OF THEIR, UM, APPLICATIONS.
HOWEVER, FOR THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE DID SET THE PRECEDENT OF A FIVE FOOT SETBACK ON SIDE SETBACKS.
SO TODAY THEY ARE LOOKING TO CHANGE IT FROM THAT 7.5 AND UM, ALIGN IT BACK WITH THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO FIVE FOOT.
SO THE ZONING IS, UH, PLANNED, MIXED USE.
IT'S 25.843 ACRES AND IT IS CURRENTLY A VACANT LAND AS THEY ARE CURRENTLY GETTING READY TO START BUILDING.
SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED PM AND UH, THE CHAPTER THAT THIS RELATES TO IS 1 1 1 7.
SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF A, A OVERVIEW OF WHAT I HAD ALREADY TOLD YOU.
THIS IS THE SECOND PLAT OF THE CARRIAGE TRAILS SUBDIVISION.
THE APPLICANT REQUEST APPROVAL TO CHANGE SIDE SETBACKS FROM 7.5 TO FIVE FOOT TO STAY CONSISTENT WITH THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN CONFORMANCE WITH SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
UH, FRONT AND REAR SETBACK REMAIN AT 25 FEET.
SETBACKS WILL BE AT FIVE FEET, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUIREMENTS.
AND THE MINIMUM LINE LOT SIZE IS 56 FEET, EXCEEDS THE 50 FOOT MINIMUM.
AND SOUTHERN LOTS ALONG THE WA WINE FLOWER DRIVE OR WIND WINDFLOW DRIVE ARE NOW AT LEAST 62.5 FEET WIDE.
UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE REPL OF CARRIAGE TRAILS TO SECTION 20, PHASE TWO AS IT DOES CONFORM TO ALL SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU.
WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT? GOOD EVENING.
SO THIS IS THE RESULT OF, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAT LAYOUT AND ALL THE, UH, DEPICTIONS OF LINES AND SETBACKS, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR FIVE FOOT THAT WE'VE USED.
WE HAVE A NEW ENGINEERING FIRM, THEY HIT A SUBNOTE ON EACH OF THE SHEETS THAT SAYS SEVEN AND A HALF AND WE ALL MISSED IT.
SO NONE OF THE LINING DEPICTION ON THE PLAT ITSELF CHANGES AND REMOVAL OF THAT NOTE ALLOWS US TO BE CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE'VE DONE IN CARRIAGE TRAILS, WHICH IS THE FIVE FEET.
UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER 'EM.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO, SIR.
ALRIGHT, I'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE.
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THE, THIS IS THE SECOND PHASE OF CARRIAGE TRAILS TWO.THE FIRST PHASE WAS 120 LOTS AND THERE ARE HALF A DOZEN LOTS THAT ARE SOLD.
THEY'RE NOT ALL UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT THEY'RE ALL COMMITTED TO BY THE BUILDERS.
SO THE PHASE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, UH, SCHEDULED TO PAVE NEXT WEEK.
SO BEHIND THAT, WE'LL PUT THE GAS AND, UH, OTHER ELECTRIC AND, AND THEN HOPEFULLY SELLING THOSE LOTS WITHIN 60 DAYS.
UH, THINGS ARE GOING WELL STILL THERE FOR SALES, WE HAVE 85 LOTS UNDER DESIGN IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF THIS.
AND I'LL PROBABLY HAVE THAT HERE FOR A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN NOVEMBER-ISH THE WAY IT LOOKS RIGHT NOW.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ZONING CASE? WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION.
UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT, CARRIAGE TRAILS COMPANY LLC FOR APPROVAL? DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO.
FOR APPROVAL OF A RELA APPLICATION, PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF CARRIAGE TRAILS PARKWAY, CASE RP 26 29.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF'S MEMORANDUM DATED SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2026 IN THE COM PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION RECORD ATTACHED THERETO, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION, UH, BY MR. SCHAPER, SECOND BY MS. THOMAS.
UH, SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MR. JOHNSON? YES.
WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE APPLICANT? SO THIS WAS JUST A REPL.
SO THEY WILL GO TO, UM, THE REST OF THE PEOPLE THAT THEY NEED TO GET THEIR PROPER SIGNATURES FOR, FOR A REPL, UM, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THE APPLICANT, UH, SINCE THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THEY'RE HAVING TO DO IT AND THEY WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING THE PER UH, PROPER PERMITTING.
NEXT ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS IS A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE APPLICANT, METROPOLITAN HOLDINGS, LTD, IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROPOSED NEW 276 UNIT MULTIFAMILY PROJECT.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT CARRIAGE TRAILS PARKWAY, WEST CARRIAGE PA, CARRIAGE TRAILS PARKWAY WEST OF ROUTE 2 0 1 DBD OR BDP 26 28 MS. HAYES.
SO TODAY WE WILL BE LOOKING AT A NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT WILL BE IN ADDITION TO THE CARRIAGE TRAILS SUBDIVISION.
UM, THE APPLICANT AND OWNER OF THIS ONE IS METROPOLITAN HOLDINGS.
IT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF CARRIAGE TRAILS PARKWAY.
IT IS CURRENTLY A ZONED PLANNED MIXED USE SITTING AT 14.903 ACRES.
THE EXISTING LAND IS VACANT, SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED PM AS WELL.
AND THIS IS CHAPTER 1 1 7 1 BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
SO THE REQUEST IS TO APPROVE THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A 276 UNIT MULTIFAMILY PROJECT ON THE EAST SIDE OF CARRIAGE TRAILS WEST OF ROUTE 2 0 1.
THE SITE FEATURES, UH, INCLUDE A COMMUNITY CLUBHOUSE, DOG PARK, A RETENTION POND, AND 6.82 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE.
THIS IS ABOUT 45.8% OF THE SITE, UM, WHICH DOES COVER THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
THEY ALSO WILL HAVE COVERED AND UNCOVERED PARKING ACROSS NINE CLUSTERED BUILDINGS.
SO, UH, BUFFER INCOMPATIBILITY, A 20 FOOT BUFFER, SIX FEET HIGH, AND AT LEAST 80% OPAQUE YEAR ROUND WILL RUN THE 500 FEET WEST OF THE NORTHEAST CORNER.
ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE TWO INGRESS AND EGRESS POINTS FOUR, UM, CARRIAGE ARE COMING FROM CARRIAGE TRAILS PARKWAY.
THE SOUTHERN ACCESS TO SR 2 0 1 WILL BE A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ONLY WITH SIDEWALKS TO ALL AMENITIES.
THE TWO SPACE, UH, PER UNIT REQUIREMENT IS NOT CURRENTLY MET WHEN IT COMES TO PARKING.
HOWEVER, STAFF DOES FIND THAT THE PROPOSED RATIO OF ONE SPACE PER BEDROOM IS ADEQUATE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
ALL BUILDINGS, UH, DO STAND ABOUT FOUR STORIES, SOME BEING HALFWAY IN THE GROUND, HALF, UH, SOME OF THEM NOT AND ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND ALL UTILITIES WILL BE PLACED UNDERGROUND.
STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AS SUBMITTED ON SEPTEMBER, 2020, UH, 22 20 26 WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND ZONING REG REGULATIONS SHALL BE THOSE SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION
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DATED SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2026.A PUBLIC SIDEWALK ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF CARRIAGE TRAILS PARKWAY CONNECTING TO CARRIAGE TRAILS NETWORK SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED AND THE APPLICANT SHALL INSTALL A CROSSWALK AT THE WEST ENTRANCE CONNECTING TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE CARRIAGE TRAILS PARKWAY.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES, MR. SHOPPER? UM, I KNOW BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN REQUIRES 20 ACRES AND THIS IS 14.903.
SO, UM, IT IS PART OF THE OVERALL, UM, CARRIAGE TRAILS PARK, UH, SUBDIVISION, WHICH HEAVILY IS COVERED BY THE ACREAGE.
UM, THIS IS JUST A SMALL PART OF THE OVERALL, UM, DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE FIND IT ADEQUATE TO FIT THIS.
HOW HOW DOES THAT ACREAGE COMPARE WITH CARRIAGE PARK AND WATERSTONE? I DO NOT KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
UM, CARE THERE IS THE, EXCUSE ME, THEY ARE SMALLER, UH, CARRIAGE PARK AND, UH, WATERSTONE, UH, BOTH HAVE, ARE ARE SMALLER AS FAR AS TOTAL ACREAGE.
THE UM, THE 20 ACRES IS REALLY THE MINIMUM WHEN THE REZONING FROM WHATEVER TO PLANNED MIXED USE.
THAT'S THE METRIC, THAT'S WHAT THE CODE REQUIRES.
AS FAR AS THE PLANNED MIXED USE, THIS IS ALREADY ZONED PLANNED MIXED USE.
UM, SO MOST OF THE SITES THROUGHOUT, UM, CARRIAGES TRAILS AND REALLY MOST OF THE AREAS LIKE FOR BACK IN THIS AREA AS WELL, UH, WE'RE ALL ZONED PLANNED MIXED USE IN OUR LESS THAN 20 ACRES, CLOSER TO 10 OR 12.
AND AND SAME QUESTION WITH THE PARKING.
HOW DOES THAT COMPARE WITH CARRIAGE PARK PARKING AND WATERSTONE'S PARKING? IT IS CONSISTENT.
I DID CHECK THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER ONES WE HAVE DONE.
THEY'RE SITTING AT MORE OF A 1.4, 1.5, UM, WHEN OUR STANDARD IS USUALLY TWO.
UM, HOW, AND THIS ONE SITS AT ABOUT THAT SAME RANGE AND THEY'RE SAYING MULTIFAMILY, IT'S MULTI WHAT, WHAT'S IT SAY? YES, IT WILL BE, UM, MULTIFAMILY LIVING AS IT IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
UM, AND IT'LL JUST BE A MULTI BEDROOM APARTMENT COMPLEX.
AND ARE THEY ANTICIPATING, LIKE, I KNOW WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT CARRIAGE PARK, WE WERE TALKING MORE, UH, SMALLER FAMILIES, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT WITH A HUSBAND AND WIFE LIVING TOGETHER, YOU GOT TWO CARS.
SO YOU GOT ONE PARKING SPOT FOR TWO CARS AND IF IT'S A TWO BEDROOM BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHILD, THERE'S STILL TWO CARS.
SO I GUESS MY CONCERN BECOMES THE CARS WITH DISCUSSION AMONGST STAFF.
UM, WE DID CONSIDER THIS, BUT WITH, UM, THERE BEING A ONE BEDROOM MINIMUM OR ONE PER BEDROOM MINIMUM, THIS IS PRETTY CONSISTENT ACROSS, UH, MOST APARTMENT COMPLEXES BEING BUILT NOT ONLY IN HUBER HEIGHTS BUT AROUND THE DAYTON AREA AS WELL.
UM, WE THINK THAT AT THIS POINT THERE IS NO OTHER WAY FOR THEM TO ADD MORE ADDIT LIKE ADDITIONAL PARKING TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY STATED.
THEY ADDED AS MUCH AS THEY POSSIBLY COULD.
UM, AND EVERY APARTMENT COMPLEX STANDARD IN A LEASE ONLY GETS ONE PARKING SPOT AS IT'S OKAY.
MS. VARGO, I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE LACK OF PARKING.
UH, TELL ME AGAIN, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF BEDROOMS? SO THEY ARE GOING TO BE DOING A VARIETY OF ONE BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOMS AND ARE CONSIDERING THREE BEDROOMS. UM, THESE ARE EXPECTED TO BE SMALLER FAMILY APARTMENT COMP HOMES AND UM, LIKE I STATED, MOST LEASES ONLY GIVE YOU ONE SPOT PER APARTMENT AS IT IS, UM, THAT COMES WITH YOUR LEASE.
UM, I, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO FIND MORE PARKING IN THIS, THIS, UH, PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.
UM, IN, WHEN YOU SAY, WELL, THERE'S ALWAYS A WAY TO FIND IF YOU HAVE TO ELIMINATE A BUILDING OR IF YOU HAVE TO MOVE SOME THINGS AROUND.
THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME WAY SOMEWHERE THAT, AND I'M MOST POSITIVE THAT THEY'VE PROBABLY LOOKED AT EVERYTHING, BUT WE NEED TO KEEP LOOKING BECAUSE THIS PARKING IS NOT ADEQUATE FOR THIS, FOR THIS NUMBER OF BUILDINGS IN MY OPINION.
UH, LIKE I STATED, UH, STAFF DID FIND THAT, UH, IT WAS ADEQUATE AND VERY SIMILAR TO OTHER APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN THE AREA.
UM, I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN.
UM, HOWEVER, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, WE DID NOT SEE AN ACTIVE ISSUE WITH IT.
THE APPLICANT CAN ANSWER ABOUT WHAT, WHO, WHAT THE APPLICANT CAN ANSWER, WHAT THEIR TARGET MARKET DEMOGRAPHIC IS.
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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I GUESS I DO HAVE ONE MORE.UH, YOU MEN, IT MENTIONS IN HERE THAT NO PHASING HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
UM, PHASING IS NOT CONSISTENTLY SENT WITH THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AND UH, USUALLY APARTMENTS ARE BUILT ALL AT ONCE AND NOT IN PHASES.
AS FAR AS THE DEPARTING IN THE, IN THE, I'M SORRY.
IN THE BASE? NO, THIS IS THE BASIC IN THE, UM, DETAILED.
IF THEY DECIDE TO DO PHASING, YES.
THAT'S WHEN WE WILL SHOW THE PHASING AS FAR AS PARKING, THE RATIO, UM, AT, UH, UM, CARRIAGE PARK APARTMENTS JUST TO THE SOUTH WAS I BELIEVE 1.4 SPACES PER UNIT.
JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT, WHICH IS THE SAME HERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I GUESS I JUST HAVE ONE MORE.
THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THAT AN ENTRYWAY FROM 2 0 1 OR 2 0 2 ACTUALLY HAS A TURNOFF IN IT.
DOES THE STAFF FEEL THERE ARE ANY ISSUES WITH, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I KNOW WE JUST PUT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT IN.
WE GOT RID OF THE CONTINUOUS RIGHT TURN OFF OF 2 0 1.
WHEN YOU'RE HEADING SOUTH, IS THERE CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC OR ARE WE GONNA REMARK ANYTHING THERE WITH THAT RIGHT.
THE ENGINEER DID NOT SEE ANY CONCERNS WITH THIS? NO.
IS THAT SUN IN YOUR EYES?
WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT? GOOD EVENING.
I'M WITH METROPOLITAN HOLDINGS.
UM, IT'S PROBABLY BEEN THREE OR FOUR YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS.
UM, I THINK THE LAST TIME WE WERE GETTING REVERB APPROVED AND THAT'S WINDING DOWN.
UM, I DIDN'T HAVE, UH, DIDN'T HAVE REALLY A BIG PLANNED SPEECH, BUT I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PARKING QUESTIONS.
UM, BECAUSE THAT PARKING'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT IN OUR PROJECTS AND WE STRIVE FOR A 1.7 SPACES PER UNIT RATIO.
AND SINCE WE'VE SUBMITTED THIS PLAN, WE'VE CONTINUED TO NEEDLE AND TWEAK THE SITE PLAN.
WE'VE PICKED UP PROBABLY BETWEEN 20, 25 MORE SPACES AND WE'RE SITTING CONSISTENTLY ACROSS THE SITE NOW AT ABOUT 1.7 SPACES.
SO WE'VE IMPROVED OVER THAT 1.4
UM, THE 1.7 IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE HAD APPROVED AT REVERB AND AT PARKVIEW WHEN WE'VE DONE PROJECTS IN HUBER HEIGHTS.
AND IT'S REALLY WHAT WE STRIVE FOR AT ALL OF OUR PROJECTS.
SO I I HOPE THAT HELPS PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT OF COLOR AND CLARITY FOR THE PARKING.
UM, I GUESS I'M REALLY JUST LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO YOUR GUYS' QUESTIONS.
I THINK HAILEY DID A GREAT JOB PRESENTING AND ANY QUESTION, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? TRYING TO STAY OPPOSITE.
SO ARE THERE ANY POSSIBLE ABILITY OF MORE PARKING? NO.
WE'VE, WE HAVE SQUEEZED EVERYTHING OUT ON, ON THE SITE PLAN THAT'S POSSIBLE.
UM, WE'VE TAKEN OUT, YOU KNOW, ON, ON WHAT WILL SHOW UP ON THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
WE'VE TAKEN OUT A COUPLE GARAGE BUILDINGS.
WE'VE, WE'VE COMPRESSED DOWN CLOSER TO SIDEWALKS AND SETBACK LINES.
UM, THERE, THERE'S JUST REALLY NOWHERE LEFT TO PUT ANY MORE, ANY MORE PAVEMENT.
SO IN YOUR OTHER APARTMENT COMPLEXES, HOW MANY, LIKE, DO YOU RENT EXTRA SPACES TO PEOPLE? LIKE IF THEY COME IN AND THEY'VE GOT TWO DRIVERS WITH TWO CARS? NO, IT'LL, AT A PARK VIEW OR A REVERB OR A PRODUCT OR A BREEZEWAY PROJECT LIKE THIS, THE SPACES AREN'T RENTED.
UM, IF, IF THEY'RE, IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF RENT FACTOR, IT'S BUILT INTO THE RENT, BUT EVERYONE HAS, IT'S OPEN PARKING, EVERYONE HAS PARKING.
UM, I, I THINK WE'RE AT ABOUT A 50 50, 60 42 BEDROOM VERSUS ONE BEDROOM SPLIT ON THESE.
AND, UH, I MEAN I, WE DON'T TYPICALLY SEE TWO PEOPLE LIVING IN A ONE BEDROOM IN OUR PROJECTS
UM, WE DON'T THAT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I THINK OUR ONE BEDROOMS ON THIS ARE 680 FEET AND 740 SQUARE FEET AND YOU JUST TYPICALLY DON'T SEE A, A COUPLE LIVING IN THOSE.
UM, THERE JUST ISN'T ENOUGH SPACE AND CLOSET SPACE FOR TWO PEOPLE IN THOSE.
SO THE, THE ONES ARE TYPICALLY TARGETED AT SINGLE PEOPLE OR, UH, YOUNG PROFESSIONALS OR, OR YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IF THEY'RE MOVING FOR THEIR JOB.
UM, WE TYPICALLY SEE THE TWOS, TWOS ARE MORE FAMILY
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BASED.THEY'RE ALSO FOR PE UH, WE SEE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO HAVE A TAKE THAT SECOND BEDROOM AND MAKE IT ADEN OR A WORKSPACE FOR, IN A WORK FROM HOME SCENARIO.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING HERE WITH HOW WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN LEASING AT BOTH HUBER HEIGHTS PROJECTS AND TRADITIONALLY ACROSS THE BOARD WITH OUR BREEZEWAY PRODUCTS.
AND THIS QUESTION MAY BE MORE FOR CITI, BUT MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER IT AS WELL.
DO OUR LIFT STATIONS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE KIND OF AT THAT BARE MINIMUM ON THE LIFT STATIONS.
IS THIS GONNA COORDINATE WITH NEW LIFT STATIONS BEING ADDED TO WHERE WE'RE NOT OVERLOADING, WHAT LIFT STATIONS WE HAVE IN CARRIAGE TRAILS? 'CAUSE I KNOW AT ONE POINT WE WERE GETTING READY TO ADD ONE, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
SO CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE LIFT STATIONS? 'CAUSE I'D HATE TO HAVE WATER ISSUES BECAUSE WE ADD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WHEN WE'RE ALSO ADDING HOMES.
LIKE, IT'S OUR JOB RIGHT NOW IN CARRIAGE TRAILS.
SO THE, UH, THE NEW LIFT STATION HAS BEEN DESIGNED, UM, AND REALLY COULD START CONSTRUCTION REALLY AT ANY TIME.
WE'VE LIMITED THE NUMBER OF, UH, HOMES TO CONNECT TO THE SYSTEM AND CARRIAGE TRAILS.
WE'VE LIMITED THAT TO 300 BEFORE THE NEW LIFT STATION.
UM, BEFORE, WELL, WE LIMITED THE NUMBER OF HOMES TO 300 BEFORE THE NEW LIFT STATION COMES ONLINE.
SO ANYTHING ABOVE 300, THE NEW LIFT STATION HAS TO, TO COME ONLINE.
UM, AS FAR AS THIS, UH, WE FULLY ANTICIPATE THAT THE LIFT STATION TIMING WOULD BE COORDINATED WITH THE, WITH THIS AS WELL.
THERE WOULD NOT BE A PERMIT TO INSTALL, UM, ISSUED WITHOUT ADEQUATE CAPACITY.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING TO GET A GRANT FOR ANOTHER PROJECT, WHICH WOULD FREE UP FUNDS FOR THE LIFT STATION.
BUT BOTTOM LINE, UM, IT, IT IS, UM, IT'S ON OUR MIND AND WE'RE AWARE OF THE, OF THE, UM, CAPACITY AT THE LIFT STATION WAS JUST SOUTH AND, UM, WE'RE WORKING COORDINATED THAT WAY, SO I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING WITH KEN'S TEAM, UH, AND THEN OUR ENGINEERS AND SO WE WILL NOT OVER, UM, OVER OVERTAX THE CAPACITY OF THAT CURRENT LIFT STATION.
SO THE, THE OTHER ONE'S BEEN DESIGNED AND IT'S READY TO GO.
UH, SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE I HAVE ONE QUESTION, UM, JUST, AND I'M SORRY FOR GOING BACK TO THE PARKING, BUT YOU SAID THIS IS OPEN PARKING.
DOES THAT INCLUDE VISITOR PARKING AS WELL? IT DOES, YEAH.
SO HOW MANY VISITOR PARKING SPOTS DO YOU ENVISION JUST ON PAST EXPERIENCES THAT YOU MAY NEED? WE, WE DON'T ASSIGN VISITOR SPACES PEOPLE, PEOPLE'S TRANSIENT LIVES AND THEIR WORK, AND WHEN THEY'RE GONE PEOPLE, WE, WE TEND TO LEARN THAT PEOPLE CARRY DIFFERENT SCHEDULES AND WITH THIS MANY PARKING SPACES, THERE'S TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SEE, YOU KNOW, THE NORTHERN END OF THE SITE IS PACKED AND I CAN'T PARK THERE WITH PEOPLE HAVING DIFFERENT WORK SCHEDULES AND IN AND OUTS.
IT, IT TENDS TO ALL JUST WORK OUT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BUILDINGS ARE A MIX OF ONE AND TWO.
THERE'S SOME BUILDINGS THAT ARE ALL ONE BEDROOM, BUT WE HAVE NO ALL TWO BEDROOM BUILDINGS.
THERE'S PRIVATE GARAGES IN THE MIDDLE.
UM, WE, WE DON'T SEE THERE BEING AN ISSUE.
THERE WILL BE A FEW ASSIGNED SPACES IN FRONT OF THE CLUBHOUSE FOR FUTURE RESIDENT OR VISITOR PARKING THERE, BUT AT EACH BUILDING WE DON'T BREAK 'EM DOWN LIKE THAT.
THE PARKING QUESTIONS ARE ACTUALLY GREAT.
I JUST WENT THROUGH A STUDY OF PARKING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SITE TO FIND MORE PARKING AND GET IT DISTRIBUTED PROPERLY AND HOW WE CAN KIND OF LOOK AT EACH BUILDING.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN FRESH IN OUR MINDS, SO ABSOLUTELY.
IF IF PEOPLE CAN'T PARK, THEY'RE NOT GONNA WANNA LIVE THERE, SO, OH, ABSOLUTELY.
SO IF YOU LIVE IN APARTMENT ONE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A RESERVED SPOT FOR APARTMENT ONE.
SO IF APARTMENT TWO HAS VISITORS, APARTMENT ONE HAS GOTTA FIND A PLACE TO PARK.
YEAH, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S ENOUGH PARKING IN FRONT OF EACH BUILDING.
YOU KNOW, YOU MAY, YOU MAY NOT PARK DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF SEE YOUR BREEZEWAY TO GET IN.
YOU MIGHT BE THREE SPACES DOWN.
UM, IT, IT SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.
NOW MY OTHER QUESTION IS, UH, WHAT DOES OUR CODE REQUIRE FOR THE WIDTH PARKING? IS IT 10 FEET? UM, BECAUSE I KNOW IN SOME OF THESE PLACES, IN ORDER TO REACH THE MINIMUM PARKING THEY'VE HAD TO REDUCE THE WIDTH AND THAT
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MEANS THAT CAR DOORS GET DINGED.WE'RE AT NINE BY 18, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF OUR PROJECTS.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU LIVE IN AN APARTMENT, THAT'S WHAT THE CHANCES YOU TAKE MORE THAN IN A, IN A PUBLIC GROCERY STORE.
SO, SO MY QUESTION IS REMAINS, WHAT IS, WHAT DOES OUR CODE REQUIRE? A CODE IS 10 BY 18, UM, WHICH ENFORCE FOR COMMERCIAL PROJECTS.
ALL OF THE APARTMENT, UH, ALL THE RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE HAVE ALL BEEN NINE BY EIGHTEENS, BECAUSE CARS JUST DON'T MOVE THAT FREQUENTLY AT APARTMENTS.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE THERE, YOU PARK FOR THE EVENING AND THEN YOU LEAVE AND YOU GO TO WORK UNLIKE STORES OR COMMERCIAL WHERE THERE'S MUCH MORE FREQUENT MOVEMENT.
UM, SO SORRY, I'M I'M STILL NOT GETTING THE ANSWER, UH, THAT I'M SEEKING.
UM, DO WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT IN OUR CODE FOR WIDTH PARKING? YES.
10 FEET AND, AND IT'S 10 FEET.
SO NOW THEY'RE ALREADY GOING TO BE UNDER BECAUSE THERE IS NINE FEET.
AND AND WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THAT ALL OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT THIS BOARD HAS APPROVED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS HAVE ALL BEEN NINE FOOT WIDE STALLS.
NOW THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT TRUE FOR, I GUESS WHAT I'M REALLY GETTING AT IS IF IF THEY'VE ALREADY GONE DOWN TO NINE, THEY CAN'T GO DOWN ANY FARTHER.
THAT'S, THAT'S PRIMARILY WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT.
WE, WE DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN ANY FARTHER BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE'S DOORS GET DINGED AND IT, YOU JUST START TO HEAR ABOUT IT.
BUT WE ADDRESSING THE PARKING TOO IN THE DETAIL, CORRECT? YEAH.
WE, WE WILL, THERE'S NO DESIRE TO THIS AND YOU KNOW, THAT HOW WE KIND OF FEEL ABOUT IT.
SO MAYBE YOU CAN KEEP LOOKING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST THE APPLICANT.
UH, GO RIGHT AGAIN, THIS WILL PROBABLY BE MORE FOR AARON.
HOW MANY LIFT STATIONS ARE CURRENTLY OPERATIONAL AND CARRIAGE TRAILS THAT SERVE CARRIAGE TRAILS? THERE'S TWO.
UH, THERE WILL BE A THIRD THAT WILL BE ADDED AND THEN THAT THIRD WILL TAKE SOME OF THE, UH, LOAD THAT IS CURRENTLY ON THAT SECOND ONE OFF OF IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU SIR.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ZONING CASE? WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE ZONING CASE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT METROPOLITAN HOLDINGS LTD FOR APPROVAL OF A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN? THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT CARRIAGE TRAILS PARKWAY, WEST OF ROUTE, ROUTE 2 0 1, CASE BDP 26 28 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF'S MEMORANDUM DATED SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2026 IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, DECISION RECORD ATTACHED THERE TOO.
TERRY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION MOVED BY MS. THOMAS.
UH, SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MS. FARGO? UH, BEFORE I VOTE, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON MY, UM, PACKET.
IT SAYS THAT THIS IS A COMBINED BASIC AND DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN 26 AND 29.
THE THE CASE NUMBER IS 26 DASH 29.
SO IT SHOULD HAVE JUST BEEN A BASIC NOT MARKED.
I JUST WANNA BE SURE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO YEP.
WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE APPLICANT? NEXT WE WILL GO INTO THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PHASE WHERE WE WILL ADDRESS YOUR GUYS' CONCERNS AS WELL AS THE CONDITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SET HERE TODAY.
AND WE WILL, UH, HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS OF WHAT THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX WILL LOOK LIKE IN A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN AFTER, UH, COUNCIL SEES IT.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS IS A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE APPLICANT FOUR STAR USA REAL REAL ESTATE GROUP, INC.
IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR SECTION FOUR AND FIVE OF THE REPL FOR A FUTURE HOTEL DEVELOPMENT ON A PROPOSED 2.8 ACRE LOT.
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WHAT? THAT'S NOT IT.BUT I READ IT, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT SAYS IT BUT IF I READ IT, SORRY, IT'S HAVE YOU READ OUT OF THIS.
OKAY, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE APPLICANT FOUR STAR USA REAL ESTATE GROUP INC.
IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR SECTIONS FOUR AND FIVE OF THE CANAL HEIGHTS DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON CHAMBERSBURG ROAD DDP 26 DASH 27.
I WAS GONNA SAY THERE MUST BE SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA I DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
SO TODAY WE WILL BE LOOKING AT A TWO SECTION, UH, DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR CANAL HEIGHTS, UM, THE APPLICANT AND ONE IS FOUR STAR USA REAL ESTATE GROUP.
THIS IS LOCATED ON CHAMBERSBURG ROAD AND ENDICOTT ROAD, UH, TO THE NORTH SIDE.
IT IS CURRENTLY PLANNED RESIDE RESIDENTIAL AND SITS AT 80.13 ACRES.
UH, IT IS VACANT LAND AS IT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
UM, ADJACENT UH, ADJACENT ZONING IS P-P-N-P-C AND CHAPTER, THIS IS RELATED TO CHAPTERS 1 1 7 1 AND 1105.
SO THE TOTAL ACREAGE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS 80.13.
LIKE I STATED IN SECTION FOUR THERE WILL BE 72 LOTS AND IN SECTION FIVE THERE WILL BE 56 LOTS.
UH, THE SETBACKS CURRENTLY ARE FRONT AND REAR YARDS AT 25 FEET AND SIDE YARDS AT FIVE FEET.
THIS PLAN COVERS 80.13 ACRES AND IS 128 LOTS.
SECTION FOUR IS 47.66 ACRES AND 72 LOTS.
AND SECTION FIVE IS 32.48 WITH THOSE 56 LOTS.
AND THEY ALSO HAVE FIVE, UH, MAJOR OPEN SPACE SPACES TOTALING TO 49.67 ACRES.
THE FRONT AND REAR WERE SETBACK, UM, LIKE I SAID, ARE CONSISTENT WITH ALL CURRENT SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR CANAL HEIGHT SECTION FOUR AND FIVE CONDITIONED ON CONFORMANCE WITH ALL DEPARTMENT FIRE DEPARTMENT REQUIREMENTS, WHICH WERE NOTHING OUT OF, UH, STANDARD ORDINARY.
AND THE ENGINEER HAD NO FURTHER COMMENTS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU.
I GUESS I HAVE ONE, I HAVE ONE, SORRY.
IN SECTION FIVE, IS THAT ROAD CONNECTING SOMEWHERE THAT'S KIND OF GOING OFF IN SECTION FIVE? YES.
SO THAT WILL BE CONNECTED UP TO, I HAD TO REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS CALLED.
THAT'LL BE CONNECTED UP TO SANDAL VIEW.
UM, IT'S ON AN ALREADY PARTIALLY EXISTING ROAD.
UH, THERE'S ALREADY SOME NEIGHBORS, UH, THAT ARE LIKE ON THAT ROAD AND THEY WERE ALL MADE AWARE THAT THIS WAS COMING.
YEAH, IT WILL BE A STRAIGHT THROUGH.
IT WILL NOT BE STRAIGHT THROUGH INTO THAT OLDER DEVELOPMENT THERE, CORRECT? YES.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT? ALRIGHT, I'VE NEVER SPOKE HERE, SO, UH, IT'S GOT NEW FOR ME, BUT, UH, MY NAME'S JOHN HINKEL.
I SIGN IN ON THE SIGN IN SHEET, PLEASE.
ALL RIGHT, SO I, UH, I LIVED IN HUBRIS FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.
UH, I LIVE AT 71 91 RUSTIC WOODS DRIVE, WHICH IS AT THE DEAD END OF, UH, RIGHT WHERE IT COMES UP AGAINST THE NEW DEVELOPMENT OFF CHAMBERSBURG.
SO I'M BASICALLY RUNNING BETWEEN TAYLORSVILLE AND CHAMBERSBURG.
UH, DID I SPEAK TO YOU TODAY ON THE PHONE? OKAY.
SHE DID GIMME A LOT OF INFORMATION, VERY HELPFUL.
UH, I WAS CONCERNED BASICALLY ABOUT THE ROAD COMING THROUGH ON RUSTIC.
NOW SHE DID SAY TO ME THAT SOUTH, OR IS IT SOUTHVIEW OR I'M SORRY, SANDAL.
SANDAL VIEW WILL BE THE ONE THAT'LL BE CONTINUED THROUGH.
UH, I WAS JUST EXPRESSING MY CONCERN THAT IF THAT'S JUST A, UH, LIKE OPENING A CAN OF WORMS FOR THE NEXT ROAD TO OPEN.
SO I WAS JUST, I GUESS QUESTIONING IS THAT SOMETHING THAT I COULD EXPECT IN THE FUTURE IS THAT THEY'RE
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GOING TO PUT RUSTIC ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO, I BELIEVE THE ROAD IS, UH, UH, CALEDONIA AVENUE AND, UH, KELL STREET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF CHAMBERSBURG SEEMED TO INTERSECT AND I NOTICED THAT IT, IT DEAD ENDS RIGHT AT THE SAME LEVEL WHERE RUSTIC WOODS IS.I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY PLAN IN THE FUTURE TO BE COMING THROUGH.
BECAUSE I MEAN, I HAVE A VERY BEAUTIFUL SPACE WITH A LOT OF WOODS IN MY PROPERTY, WHICH IS WHY I PICKED IT.
SO THAT WAS JUST MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
SO, SO, UM, YOU, THE WAY THIS DEVELOPMENT IS SET UP, THE ANSWER IS NO.
UM, THERE'S NOT ANYTHING EXPECTED TO GO IN PAST YOUR HOUSE.
IT WILL DEFINITELY NOT BE CONNECTING DOWN TO THE ROAD THAT WILL NOW BE BELOW YOU AS THERE WILL BE HOUSES IN THE WAY.
SO I WOULDN'T BE TOO WORRIED ABOUT, UH, YOUR, THAT STREET EVER BEING EXTENDED DOWN INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AS, AS THEY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE OUT HOUSES FOR IT.
AND I KNOW I SPOKE WITH YOU EARLIER AND I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING ME ALL THE INFORMATION.
I JUST, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY FURTHER INFORMATION THAT WOULD COME OUT OF COMING TO THE MEETING TODAY OR OF COURSE DEVELOPER.
SO, BUT I DO APPRECIATE ALL THE NO PROBLEM INFORMATION YOU GAVE ME.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ZONING CASE HEARING? NO ONE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE ZONING CASE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT? FOUR STAR USA REAL ESTATE GROUP, INC.
FOR APPROVAL OF A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT CHAMBERSBURG ROAD CASE DDP 26 27 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF'S MEMORANDUM DATED SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2026 AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION RECORD ATTACHED THERETO.
I THINK YOU SAID YOU MIGHT HAD A QUESTION.
SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE RULE MR. SCHAPER? YES.
WHAT'S NEXT FOR RED FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, SO THEY WILL GO ON TO GET THE PROPER PERMITTING AND BE ABLE TO START MOVING GROUND AND CONSTRUCTION, UH, ONCE THEY TALK TO THE ENGINEER AND GET THE PROPER PERMITTINGS FIXED.
MS. BARGO, MAY I ASK THE SURE GENTLEMAN REPRESENTING
WHAT'S HIS NAME? MR. SHINGLES? YEAH, JOHN.
A NEIGHBOR? WELL, THERE'S NO ONE HERE FROM THE COMPANY.
WELL THEN PERHAPS YOU CAN HELP ME, MS. HAYES
UM, CAN YOU TELL ME, I I MOST OF THE HOUSES IN THIS DEVELOPMENT ARE WAY BACK OFF OF CHAMBERSBURG ROAD.
IS IS THERE ANY PLANS FOR ANY PLAYGROUND AREA FOR CHILDREN? YES.
SO PART OF THE AGREEMENT WITH, UM, BETWEEN US AND THE DEVELOPER IS THEY'RE GONNA BE DEDICATING OPEN SPACE TO US.
UH, AND WE ARE DESIGNING A, UH, A PARK, UH, BASICALLY AT CHAMBERSBURG AND ONE OF THE ENTRANCES.
AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD HAS TO DO WITH SIDEWALKS BETWEEN THEY, THEY HAVE TWO ENTRANCES INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
WILL THERE BE SIDEWALKS THERE ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE PLANS FOR WIDENING OR SIDE OR SOMETHING GOING ON THERE.
YEAH, AS PART OF THE CHAMBERSBURG WIDENING THERE, SIDEWALKS IN A BIKE PATH WILL BE CONSTRUCTED, BUT THE SIDEWALKS WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE COMPANY BETWEEN THE TWO ENTRANCES, NO, BECAUSE THEY DON'T OWN MOST OF THAT LAND.
IT'LL BE A PART OF THE WIDENING PROJECT, BUT THEY ARE AC ACCOUNTED FOR.
WELL THAT, CAN THAT BE A GAP THEN? NO, NO, NO UHUH UM, THAT CONSTRUCTION WILL START, UH, EARLY NEXT YEAR, SO, SO I MEAN THERE THERE'LL BE A GAP FOR SEVEN MONTHS.
SORRY, I DIDN'T ASK THAT AHEAD OF TIME.
UM, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UH, IS ADDITIONAL BUSINESS.
SO NEXT WILL BE APPROVAL OF MINUTES WITHOUT OBJECTIONS.
THE MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2026 PLANNING COMMISSION
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MEETING WILL BE APPROVED.AND HEARING NO OBJECTIONS, THEY ARE APPROVED REPORTS AND CALENDAR REVIEW, MS. HAYES.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOTHING TO REPORT ON.
HEADING INTO A LITTLE BIT OF THE SLOW SEASON FOR, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
SO, UM, COULD YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE, UM, OKAY,
UH, WHAT ABOUT IT? SOME HAVE AN UPDATE.
WHAT'S GOING ON? WELL LONG ARE THEY, DO WE PLAN TO, TO PURCHASE MORE AREA THERE? JUST THE ONE BUILDING.
SO, UM, DEMOLITION IS UNDERWAY OF THE, OF MOST OF THE, THE SITE WE ARE PURCHASING, THE FRONT BUILDING OR PLANNING TO PURCHASE THE FRONT BUILDING.
SO WE ARE SUBDIVIDING THAT RIGHT NOW.
UM, THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER WHO HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST IN THE BACK.
WHAT WOULD THAT BE? THIR 12 ACRES.
UH, AND, BUT WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY PLANS YET OR ANY CONCEPTS, BUT, UM, THEY, THEY ARE LOOKING AT A RESIDENT REDEVELOPING THAT AS RESIDENTIAL.
BUT SO FAR THE CITY IS ONLY GOING TO HAVE THE ONE BUILDING? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND IS THERE ANY, UM, DATE PROJECTED FOR AN OPENING OF THAT BUILDING? UM, AT THIS MOMENT I DO NOT HAVE A CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE FOR YOU YET, BUT I, AS SOON AS I KNOW, I'LL LET YOU KNOW.
CAN I ASK MR. SHOP OR YOU RIGHT AHEAD, JUST CURIOUS WHERE WE ARE ON THE MARSICO DEVELOPMENT? UM, SO THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS APPROVED BY, UH, THIS BODY.
UM, LAST TIME WE TALKED WITH THEM, THEY WERE PLANNING TO PURCHASE, UH, OR CLOSE ON THE DEAL, I THINK EARLY FIRST QUARTER.
UM, AND THEN PROBABLY GET SOME CONSTRUCTION PHASE, A BETTER SENSE OF CONSTRUCTION PHASING THEN.
BUT THEY HAVE NOT, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, HAVE NOT YET CLOSED ON THE PROPERTY.
HAS THAT GONE TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL YET OR HAS THAT ONLY BEEN TO OUR BODY? THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN DOES NOT GO TO COUNCIL.
ONLY THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN DOES.
ANYTHING ELSE WE BRING UP BEFORE THE, UH, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
AND THAT IS THE, UM, SHOPPING CENTER ACROSS FROM ST.
THE MAN, THE OWNER OF THE SHOPPING CENTER WAS SUPPOSED TO DO IT IN THREE REPAVE IN THREE SECTIONS.
AND I THINK HE'S DONE ALL BUT ONE.
AND THERE'S STILL ONE SECTION NOT DONE.
HAS ANYONE CONTACTED HIM ON THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE? I'M NOT SURE, BUT I WILL FOLLOW UP.
ANYTHING ELSE? WE STAND ADJOURNED.