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WE'LL[ AGENDA PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road September 17, 2026 6:30 P.M.]
GO AHEAD AND BEGIN TONIGHT'S MEETING.WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THE ROLL CALL? SURE.
AND THEN WE DID HEAR FROM RACHEL AND BRANDON ABOUT NOT BEING HERE.
AND DENNIS AND DENNIS, I DO NOT HAVE ANY OPENING REMARKS THIS EVENING AND THERE ARE NO CITIZENS' COMMENTS.
SO WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE OLD BUSINESS STARTING WITH THE YMCA UPDATE.
UH, THE YMCA ENDED THE SUMMER AQUATIC SEASON AT THE KROGER AQUATIC CENTER AND SLASH PAD ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 7TH.
THE ATTENDANCE BREAKDOWN, UM, FOR FROM 2005 25 TO 2026, UH, THE TOTAL VISITS WERE 34,565 AND 25.
UM, THAT SHOWED A GROWTH OF 11.1%.
SO, OH, MEMBER SCANS WENT FROM 17.6% OF TOTAL VISITS IN 2025 TO 24.6% IN 2026, WHICH IS A GAIN OF ABOUT SEVEN PERCENTAGE POINTS.
ALMOST ALL OF THE GROWTH CAME FROM MEMBER SCANS.
THEY ACCOUNT FOR ABOUT 88% OF THE 3,846 ADDITIONAL VISITS WHILE OTHER VISITS WERE NEARLY FLAT.
WE WERE WORKING TO WINTERIZE BOTH THE AQUATIC CENTER AND THE SPLASH PAD IN SEPTEMBER, AND THEY SHOULD BOTH BE DONE BY THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER.
THEY HAVE 620 YOUTH PLAYING FALL SPORTS, WHICH INCLUDES FLAG FOOTBALL, SOCCER, AND VOLLEYBALL.
UH, THE YOUTH WINNER BASKETBALL REGISTRATION IS NOW OPEN.
THE YMCA IS HOSTING ITS ANNUAL TRUNK OR TREAT ON SUNDAY, OCTOBER 25TH FROM SIX TO 8:00 PM AND THEN THE HUBER HEIGHTS SENIOR CENTER AND THE YMCA ARE PARTNERING, PARTNERING UP TO HOST ITS SECOND ANNUAL VETERANS RECOGNITION LUNCHEON ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 12TH FROM 11:00 AM TO 1:00 PM AT THE YMCA.
THE REGISTRATION IS OPEN NOW FOR THIS FREE EVENT.
AND THAT IS ALL THAT WE HAVE FROM CHRIS AT THE Y.
AND THEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THE CITY UPDATE? SURE.
SO FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, I CAN GIVE AN UPDATE ON COMMUNITY PARK, UM, PLAYGROUND.
SO THAT HAS TAKEN JUST A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO COMPLETE.
I THINK THERE WAS, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF A HANGUP IN MOBILIZING SOME OF THE DIFFERENT CREWS THAT NEEDED TO BE OUT THERE TO WORK ON IT, BUT I DO KNOW THAT NEXT WEEK THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FINISHING THE SURFACING, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT THE PARK IS, IS DONE AFTER THAT.
SO AGAIN, IT'S GETTING THAT TURF UNIFORM SURFACING THROUGHOUT, WHICH SHOULD AID PEOPLE IN GETTING TO, UM, THE EQUIPMENT, ESPECIALLY IF THEY HAVE ANY MOBILITY ISSUES OR USE ANY MOBILITY DEVICES.
UM, THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO BEGIN PAVING IN COMMUNITY PARK THIS FALL THAT WILL ADD PARKING SPOTS OVER BY THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.
AND IT WILL GIVE, UM, A REFRESHING PAVE TO THE DRIVE THROUGHOUT.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THE TIMELINE ON THAT YET.
I AM SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT BY NEXT WEEK.
UM, THEY'LL ALSO BE PAVING AT THE YMCA LOT AND SENIOR CENTER UP THERE AROUND THE SAME TIME.
UM, THE, YOU ALSO MIGHT NOTICE SOME TREE TRIMMERS OUT IN COMMUNITY PARK BECAUSE, UM, WE HAD OUR ARBORIST GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AND THERE WERE ABOUT 22 TREES THAT NEEDED SOME, UM, DEAD LIMBS REMOVED AND OTHERS THAT ARE DUE FOR TRIMMING.
SO WE'RE GONNA BEGIN THAT WORK EACH YEAR LOOKING AT ONE TO TWO PARKS, UM, AND DOING SOME SIGNIFICANT CLEANUP SO THAT WE CAN AVOID, UM, THE LIMBS THAT MIGHT FALL WHEN WE HAVE STORMS. PROBABLY CAN'T AVOID ALL OF THEM, BUT AT LEAST THE ONES THAT ARE FORESEEABLE.
ALSO, THEY'LL BE PAVING THE WALKING PATH OUT AT MONARCH PARK THAT WILL GO FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THE SHELTER, WHICH I KNOW IN THE LAST MEETING CHRIS MENTIONED THAT THE ROTARY CLUB DID RECENTLY COMPLETE, UM, OVER $10,000 WORTH OF WORK TO THE ROOF SHELTER.
AND I THINK THEY'RE STILL GOING TO DO A BIT OF PAINTING OUT THERE, SO THEY STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF IMPROVEMENT TO GO.
THEY ALSO ARE LOOKING TO DO ANOTHER $500 WORTH OF, UM, BULBS PLANTING THIS FALL FOR, UH, SPECIFICALLY
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PLANTS THAT WILL ATTRACT MONARCH BUTTERFLIES, UM, AS WAS THEIR ORIGINAL VISION IN ADOPTING THAT PARK.AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE CITY UPDATE.
AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO DISCUSSING THE 2027 PROGRAMS AND EVENTS.
SO I KNOW THAT LAST, UH, MEETING CHRIS BROUGHT THIS UP QUICKLY JUST TO GET EVERYONE'S JUICES FLOWING AND, UM, PREPARE EVERYONE TO COME BACK THIS TIME WITH IDEAS FOR PROGRAMS FOR NEXT YEAR.
UM, I THINK THAT MOSTLY LAST TIME IN THE LAST MEETING IT WAS MENTIONED EXISTING PROGRAMS THAT WE DO AND THEN THE MENTION OF MAYBE SOME FREE LITTLE LIBRARIES IN THE PARKS.
I JUST WANTED TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR YOU TO TALK ABOUT THOSE MORE.
AND I WILL GIVE YOU A QUICK RUNDOWN OF WHAT, UH, SO THERE'S, THERE'S PROGRAMS THAT YOU ALL CHOOSE TO CHAMPION, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU NAME ONE OF YOURSELVES CHAMPION.
AND WE REALLY DEFER A LOT OF THE DECISION MAKING AND PLANNING AND EVERYTHING, UH, TO THIS BOARD THROUGH THAT ONE BOARD CHAMPION WHO COMES AND REPORTS BACK TO THE BOARD AND SAYS, THIS IS THE PLAN.
IT MEANS WHEN YOU'RE AGREEING TO DO THAT, THAT THE BOARD'S PUTTING THEIR VOLUNTEERISM BEHIND IT AND THEIR TIME AND THEY'RE SAYING, YEP, WE WANT PROGRAMMATIC MONIES SET ASIDE FOR THAT.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO JUST, UH, PROGRAMS THAT THE DEPARTMENT DOES PUT ON OR COULD PUT ON AT YOUR, UM, RECOMMENDATION.
AND THAT MIGHT SAY, HEY BLAKE, THIS BOARD PROBABLY ISN'T THE ONE TO PUT THAT ON, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS.
AND THAT CAN BE SUGGESTIONS FOR EITHER THE WHY OR MYSELF.
SO YOU COULD THEORETICALLY SAY, WHY CAN YOU HOLD MORE SUMMER CAMPS AND SARAH, CAN YOU PLANT ANOTHER POLLINATOR PATCH? OR, UM, WHATEVER THE SUGGESTION MIGHT BE.
AND IT MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING YOU DIRECTLY WANT TO CHAMPION, BUT IT'S SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT KIND OF BOTH SIDES OF THE PROGRAMMATIC COIN.
BUT TO START SPECIFICALLY SO THAT WE CAN ASK FOR BUDGET MONEY FOR THIS BOARD.
UM, I'LL JUST RUN THROUGH WHAT YOU HAD ON THE LIST THIS YEAR.
SO WE HAD THE PLANT TREE AND PLANT GIVEAWAY.
WE HAD PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENTS, WE HAD PARK CLEANUPS GET OUT AND SKATE DAY, LITTLE MERMAN, SOLITARY B INTERPRETIVE CREEK PROGRAMS AND HERITAGE TREE.
NOT ALL OF THOSE WENT FOR DIFFERING REASONS.
SCHEDULING, FINANCING, ALL OF THAT.
UM, BUT THOSE WERE THE IDEAS GOING INTO 26.
AND SO NOW, UM, IT'D BE GREAT IF YOU DISCUSSED IDEAS GOING INTO 27.
WELL, I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD DO, I, AND I MENTIONED THIS AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, BUT I DO THINK WE SHOULD DO AN EVERYTHING ENVIRONMENTAL VEST AGAIN FOR SURE.
AND I AM UP TO DOING THE SOLITARY B CLASS AGAIN.
I, AND THE PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT WOULD BE A REOCCURRING EVENT.
YOU WANT IT ON THERE EVERY YEAR?
THE KING AND QUEEN SPECIFICALLY, OR BOTH OF THEM? BOTH.
ONE WITH THE KING AND A QUEEN AND THE OTHER ONE'S A LOT OF TOURNAMENT.
I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP DOING THE PLANT GIVEAWAY.
I'M HAPPY TO DO WHATEVER I NEED TO DO TO HELP WITH THAT.
I THINK THE PARK CLEANUPS WITH, UH, ENGAGED ANY CITY CHURCH LAST YEAR WENT REALLY WELL.
UM, IF WE COULD EXPAND ON THAT AND MAYBE HIT OTHER PARKS AND POSSIBLY GET OTHER GROUPS INVOLVED AS WELL, OR INSTEAD OF WHOEVER WANTS TO VOLUNTEER, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE AN IMPACT.
AND, AND THEN I THINK WE SHOULD EXPAND ON THE CREEK WALKS.
MAYBE DO MORE OF LIKE A NATURE HIKE OR A WILDFLOWER WALK.
UM, AND MAYBE NOT JUST PLAN IT FOR OVER THE SUMMER, BUT MAYBE A SEASONAL, LIKE, I DUNNO, SPRING, DO THE WILDFLOWER, WALK AND FALL, DO THE HIKE AND SUMMER, DO A CREEK KIND OF, SO THAT THERE'S SOMETHING FOR EACH SEASON.
AS FAR AS THE CREEK WALKS AND EVERYTHING, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD, ESPECIALLY FOR LIKE OUR, OUR YOUNGER KIDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I KNOW LIKE THE METROPARKS HAS QUITE A BIT OF THOSE.
AND LIKE ME AND MY SON, WE DO LIKE, THEY HAVE LIKE NIGHT WALKS TO LIKE LOOK AT THE BATS OR LIKE FOR, UH, STAR GAZING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I THINK DOING THAT, SOME OF THAT STUFF IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY WOULD BE NICE.
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DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY NEW IDEAS TO ADD? UH, COULD WE, UH, COULD I BACKTRACK FOR A MINUTE THERE? WE HAD DISCUSSED ABOUT THREE MEETINGS AGO, UH, SARAH, ABOUT BUILDING A SHELTER DOWN AT THE, UH, COMMUNITY PARK THERE.RESTROOMS. OH, RESTROOMS. LARGE SHELTER ARE TWO SMALLER ONES.
NO, THE RESTROOM I, I ASSUME WAS, I WAS STILL ON.
WELL THAT'S WHAT WE, WE WERE DISCUSSING THE LAYOUT FOR THE RESTROOMS A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO.
WELL, YOU GAVE ME A LAYOUT SHOWING TWO SHELTERS THAT WERE GONNA BE BUILT RIGHT THERE AT COMMUNITY PARK ON THAT SURFACE ON THE NORTH END OF THE PICKLEBALL COURSE THERE.
AND WHERE WE WAS THAT, UM, THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT IN OCTOBER, THAT INSTALLATION WORK, BUT THEY'VE CURRENTLY PICKED THE SAME WEEK THAT, THAT THE PAVERS MIGHT WANT TO PICK.
AND SO THE PAVERS ARE SUPPOSED TO GIVE ME THEIR ACTUAL DATES NEXT WEEK AND THEN I WILL CONFIRM IT WITH, BUT LIKELY OCTOBER.
YEAH, FOR THAT ONE, THEY'RE JUST, THEY'LL HAVE TO POUR CEMENT FOOTERS FOR THOSE.
SO IT DOES NEED TO BE WARM ENOUGH TO DO CEMENT.
BUT UM, YEAH, IT'LL GET DONE THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT ACTUALLY ON HAND AT OUR PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY.
AND ON THAT NOTE, THE, THE RESTROOMS FOR COMMUNITY PARK ARE CURRENTLY ON HOLD, UM, FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.
PRIMARILY BUDGETARILY, IT CAME IN A BIT HIGHER THAN ANTICIPATED AFTER INSTALLATION TO BE NEAR A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
AND TWO, THE AMOUNT OF VANDALISM THAT WE'VE SEEN IN ALL OF OUR PARKS IN OUR RESTROOMS RECENTLY IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO PUTTING IN ANOTHER RESTROOM THAT'S OPEN FOR USE, ESPECIALLY IN A PARK THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE GREATEST, UM, STEWARDSHIP ALREADY ALL THE TIME BECAUSE MAYBE SOME OF OUR TEENAGE CLIENTELE THAT COMES THROUGH THERE IN THE AFTERNOON.
UM, I'M NOT, I'M NOT, UH, RULING IT OUT FOR THE FUTURE, BUT IDEALLY I'D LIKE TO SEE IF MAYBE WE COULD FORM, UM, SOME PARK LIKE STEWARDS THAT WOULD BE OUT THERE, UM, IN THE AFTER SCHOOL HOURS THAT COULD BE KEEPING AN EYE ON THINGS OR PERHAPS THERE'S A, UM, PICKLEBALL ORGANIZATION THAT WANTS TO FORM AND THEN THEY HAVE SHIFTS.
UM, OR THAT THAT WAY THAT ASSOCIATION COULD HAVE A CODE TO THE RESTROOM AND THEIR PLAYERS COULD GET A CODE, BUT IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE OPEN ALL OF THE TIME.
SO I THINK THERE'S JUST OPERATIONALLY SOME THINGS TO WORK OUT BEFORE WE INVEST THAT MUCH MONEY.
AND I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HEAR LIKE A HUGE YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
YOU HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD FROM THIS BOARD ON THAT THE LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED IT.
SO HAVE YOU ESTABLISHED A GROUP OR COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING? LOOK AT RECOMMENDATION HOW TO, HOW TO GO WITH THAT? BECAUSE I JUST THINK JUST LETTING IT, UH, LINGER THERE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, MAY BE THE WRONG APPROACH.
SEE, I'M, I'M APPROACHING 80 YEARS OLD HERE.
I NEED TO PLAY PICKLEBALL NOW.
I NEED TO HAVE, I NEED TO HIT THE RESTROOM THERE NOW.
UM, NO, BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU SPEARHEAD A COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT POSSIBLE TO WAYS WE COULD GET RESTROOMS THERE.
BUT HAVE SOMEONE FROM, UH, PUBLIC WORKS INVOLVED WITH THAT.
UM, NO, I'LL, I'LL, UM, SO ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS WERE ALREADY LOOPED IN WHEN WE ORIGINALLY LOOKED AT IT TO HELP ESTIMATE RUNNING SOME OF THOSE LINES OUT THERE.
UM, SO I'D SAY MORE SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS THE LIKE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER PORT.
LIKE, LIKE WHERE IS THE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT'S GONNA CARE ABOUT THE BATHROOMS RIGHT.
TO LIKE CHECK THEM, YOU KNOW, TRY AND SCHEDULE SOME OF THAT LEAGUE PLAY AT 2 45 TO 4:00 PM UM, SO THAT THERE'S EYES AND EARS IN THE PARK.
I ALSO RECENTLY TALKED TO, UM, THE PEEWEE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION WHO HAS AN AGREEMENT FOR THAT, UM, FOOTBALL FIELD.
AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE GET MAYBE THEM BACK IN THERE USING IT A LITTLE MORE OFTEN BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT CAN MAKE PARKING HARD.
BUT IF YOU PUT ONE TEAM PRACTICING THERE, IT'S, IT'S NOW NOT AS MUCH PARKING AND THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE PARK THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, HEAR THINGS, SEE THINGS, OKAY.
SMELL THINGS AND, AND, AND THE UNFORTUNATE EVENT OF FIRE OR FIREWORKS OR SOMETHING.
UM, SO YES, SO THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE NEED THAT LIKE STRONG, WE'RE THE USERS WHO ARE OUT HERE EVERY DAY AND WE WANT THIS.
SO WE HAVE TO SHOWCASE HERE AT HUBER HEIGHTS WATER.
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MEAN OVER X.SO I WOULD GIVE YOU A CALL THEN AFTER THAT AND FIND A DAY CAN STOP OVER FOR ABOUT AN HOUR AND JUST SIT DOWN AND GO THROUGH SOME IDEAS WITH YOU ON THAT THEN, BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE HAVE AN EVENT OUT THERE, TRUST ME, THE LADIES COME TO ME, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET THE RESTROOM? WHEN THEY GO TO THAT PORT JOHN? I HEAR.
THEN LET'S TALK, 'CAUSE THERE'S SOME OTHER IDEAS TOO THAT LIKE, THERE'S LIKE RESTROOM TRAILERS, THERE'S UM, THERE'S OTHER THINGS TOO WE COULD, WE COULD LOOK AT.
YEAH, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IS THERE NOT A MOBILE LIKE CAMERA SET UP IN THAT PARK? THERE IS, YEAH.
IS IT LIKE TEMPORARY OR? IT IS, IT'S ON A YEAR TO YEAR CONTRACT.
SO THIS YEAR IT IS, UH, AT LEAST THE LAST I CHECKED, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA SAY DEFINITIVELY, BUT I AM PRETTY POSITIVE THAT WE'RE JUST RENTING IT FOR THE YEAR.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS, BUT HAS, HAVE YOU NOTICED ANY DECREASE IN LIKE, VANDALISM AND STUFF SINCE IMPLEMENTING THAT? UM, I THINK THAT WE'VE NOTICED DECREASE IN VANDALISM SINCE I THINK THERE'S BEEN A STEADY DECREASE IN LARGE VANDALISM.
UM, YOU KNOW, FORMERLY THAT PARK HAD THE PLAYGROUND BURNED DOWN AND THE FORMER RESTROOM HAD CEMENT POURED IN THE TOILETS.
AND SO, UM, I THINK SINCE INCREASE SINCE OPENING PICKLEBALL COURTS THREE YEARS AGO, OPENING THE BASKETBALL COURTS LAST YEAR.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE CAMERA PROBABLY DOES PLAY A PART IN DETERRENCE.
UM, WE STILL GET THE MINOR GRAFFITI OUT ON THE PARK BENCHES AND THAT SORT OF STUFF, BUT OKAY.
UM, THAT CAMERA WOULD NOT GIVE US GREAT LIKE FACIAL DETAIL OF SOMEONE WALKING INTO OH THE PARK BATHROOM.
WE COULD MOVE IT AND THEN IT WOULD, SO YEAH, SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE COULD PUT IN CAMERAS, BUT THEN THAT WOULD ALSO INCREASE THE COST OF, OF THE RESTROOM ITSELF.
SO IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE A, A WORK TEAM OKAY.
YEAH, SO THERE WAS A LITTLE MORE GUSTO.
UM, THIS IS WHY WE THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO TO STEWARD IT.
DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY NEW IDEAS FOR NEXT YEAR? SO I'M NOT SURE THIS IS NEW, BUT UH, UH, GETTING RID OF THE INVASIVES FROM THE PARK IS SOMETHING I REALLY LIKE TO GET AFTER NEXT YEAR.
UM, MAYBE ENGAGING THE SCHOOL AS, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES SO THEY CAN GET VOLUNTEER HOURS, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO WE POSTED ABOUT YOUR HONEYSUCKLE HIT SQUAD.
UM, IS THAT LIKE WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CALL IT? ARE YOU KEEPING THAT SEPARATE FROM THIS BOARD OR? I THINK THAT'S A GREAT NAME.
SO LET'S, LET'S LET'S KEEP IT.
I ALSO THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD IDEA IF YOU, UM, RECALL WE SUBMITTED FOR AN EPA GRANT TO UM, MITIGATE INVASIVES AT OUR POLLINATOR PATHS AND WE WERE TURNED DOWN 'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T FEEL WE HAD SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE FOR HOW WE WOULD LIKE MAINTAIN AFTER THAT INITIAL INVESTMENT.
AND SO HAVING ACTUALLY FORMED THAT PROGRAM THAT PERIODICALLY DOES THAT WORK, I THINK WOULD REALLY STRENGTHEN THAT APPLICATION FOR US AGAIN THIS YEAR.
I THINK LIKE PIGGYBACKING OFF OF THAT, IF WE HAD SOME SORT OF EDUCATIONAL CLASS OR SOMETHING JUST TO KINDA GIVE KNOWLEDGE TO OUR RESIDENTS ABOUT WHAT IS AN INVASIVE SPECIES AND WHEN THEY'RE DECIDING TO WHAT PLANT IN THEIR OWN GUARDS AND STUFF, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE MAYBE GEARING MORE TOWARDS NATIVES THAN SOMETHING THAT'S MORE DECORATIVE BUT HARMFUL.
YEAH, I'D BE HELP HAPPY TO HELP WITH THAT.
TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS AND WHAT YOU SHOULDN'T DO, THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, SOMETHING THAT I HAD THOUGHT OF WAS A, UM, LIKE PLANTS AND SEED SWAPS IN THE SPRING.
UM, AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY FOR UM, JUST NATIVES, BUT I WAS ALSO THINKING PEOPLE WHO MIGHT WANT TO HAVE VEGETABLE GARDENS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND UM, BEING ABLE TO SWAP THOSE.
I KNOW I HAD A LOT OF, UH, STARTS THIS YEAR THAT I JUST ENDED UP COMPOSTING AND COULD HAVE BROUGHT 'EM IN AND GAVE 'EM AWAY.
SO MAY GROW BETTER LUCK WITH THEIR JALAPENOS THAN I HAD, BUT, OR EVEN MAYBE HAVING LIKE A SET UP SOMETHING OR PEOPLE CAN BRING IN THEIR, YOU KNOW, EXTRA VEGETABLES OR WHATEVER THAT CAN BE DONATED I THINK WOULD BE COOL TOO.
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I HAVE A COUPLE PROGRAMMING IDEAS FOR NEXT YEAR AS WELL.UM, I THINK WE SHOULD PUT MORE OF AN EMPHASIS ON MULTI-GENERATIONAL PROGRAMMING.
SO LIKE KIDS THROUGH SENIORS, MAYBE DO A SPECIFIC KID IN SENIOR PROGRAMMING AT THE SENIOR CENTER OR WHEREVER SUCH AS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW THE KITCHEN FACILITIES THERE, BUT MAYBE A COOKING CLASS OR A PAINTING OR CRAFT CLASS OF SORTS.
UM, OR EVEN LIKE AN ART IN THE PARK SERIES WHERE YOU CAN ROTATE THE PARK AND ACTIVITY, WHETHER IT'S PAINTING OR DIFFERENT NATURE CRAFTS.
I KNOW AT OUR MIAMI VALLEY LEAVE NO CHILD INSIDE MEETING THE OTHER DAY MOLLY WAS WANTING TO DO MORE NATURE PROGRAMMING AND I THINK THAT'D BE A GOOD START TO IT.
UM, ALONG WITH THE PLANTS WE COULD DO A PLANT GIVEAWAY BINGO KIND OF DEAL TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE INTERACTIVE.
WE COULD ROPE THAT SEED SWAP AND EVERYTHING INTO LIKE A PLANT BINGO NIGHT SO THAT IT'S LIKE YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE WITH SOMETHING 'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE BRINGING THINGS IN AND THEN WE HAVE SOME BIG WINNERS WHO ARE GETTING, YOU KNOW, A TREE OR WHATEVER THEY CHOOSE FROM RISES.
YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T ATTEND THE, I'M SORRY, LET ME SPEAK IN ECHO.
I DIDN'T ATTEND THE UH, THE THREE ON THREE BASKETBALL THAT WAS SET UP.
HOW DID THAT GO? DID ANYBODY TAKE PART IN THAT? UM, I THINK THAT IT WENT VERY WELL.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ON THE BOARD DID THAT COULD SPEAK TO IT, BUT THE REPORTS BACK FROM MOLLY AND THE PICTURES THAT SHE TOOK, I MEAN THE KIDS ARE ELATED SO, UM, ULTIMATELY THAT THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY COMMISSION DID IT AS A WAY TO KIND OF DO YOUTH OUTREACH.
UM, AND THEY STARTED AND THEY ALSO INTENDED FOR IT TO BE MULTI-GENERATIONAL AND THAT THEY HAD ADULT, UM, CATEGORIES AS WELL.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, THE PROGRAM WOULD BE STRENGTHENED BY HAVING ADULT PARTICIPANTS NEXT YEAR 'CAUSE IT WOULD MAKE IT A, A MULTI-GENERATIONAL, BUT THEY ENDED UP WAIVING THE FEES SO THAT WE WOULD GET YOUTH REGISTRANTS AND THEN AT THAT THEY ENDED UP HAVING, UM, A LOT OF YOUTH PARTICIPANTS.
SO I THINK THAT IT WENT REALLY WELL.
I THINK A FEW HUNDRED PEOPLE ENDED UP IN THE PARK THAT DAY.
UM, I THINK IT SHOWCASED OUR FACILITIES WELL AND OUR STAFF WELL AND, UM, EVERYTHING I HEAR HAS BEEN REALLY POSITIVE.
SO SO SHOULD WE MAKE THAT A REOCCURRING EVENT ALSO? UM, SO THAT IS AN INITIATIVE OF THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY COMMISSION.
UM, IF THEY DECIDED THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANOTHER BOARD TAKING IT UP.
BUT THEY MIGHT CONTINUE TO DO IT BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO LIKE DO MENTORSHIP AND UM, YOU KNOW, LIFTING UP MINORITY YOUTH AND LIKE, AND SOME STUFF THAT'S CENTRAL TO THEIR MISSION WITHIN IT ALSO.
BUT ALSO I'M ALL FOR COMMISSIONS.
GOING TO OTHER COMMISSIONS AND SAYING LIKE, WE'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT TOO.
HOW CAN WE COME ALONGSIDE YOU AND MAKE IT STRONGER? UM, THAT WOULD JUST BE UP TO YOU ALL AS A COMMISSION TO KIND OF REACH OUT ACROSS, UM, TO THOSE OTHER VOLUNTEERS.
BUT WE, WE VERY MUCH WANT IT TO CONTINUE IN THE DEPARTMENT.
SO I HAVEN'T REALLY THOUGHT THIS THROUGH VERY WELL, IT JUST KIND OF HIT ME.
SO THIS MAY BE STUPID, BUT, UM, THE, THE FACT THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO HAVE THIS MASSIVE TREE PLANTING PERHAPS, UH, IN THE NEXT NEXT YEAR.
I GUESS ONE, IF IT'S A WAY TO KIND OF TIE INTO SCHOOLS AGAIN TO SAY LIKE IF LIKE CERTAIN STUDENTS COULD LIKE BE, COULD OWN CERTAIN TREES, LIKE IF THEY DO REALLY WELL IN SCHOOL OR IF THEY'RE SHOWING LIKE THEY'RE REALLY TRYING HARD OR SOMETHING THAT THEY BECOMES A REWARD WHERE THEY'RE, THIS BECOMES THEIR TREE.
UM, JUST TO KIND OF CONNECT THEM MORE TO THE FACT THAT THE CITY'S PLANTING THESE TREES OUT THERE AND IT'S NOT JUST A CITY THING, IT'S NOW A PERSONAL KIND OF CONNECTION.
LIKE ADOPT A TREE KIND OF YEAH.
YEAH, I COULD SEE THAT TYING IN WITH SOME EDUCATIONAL ASPECT, YOU KNOW, JUST IF YOU'RE A STUDENT OF BETWEEN WHATEVER AGES WE DECIDE IS CAN BE RESPONSIBLE, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE 12 TO 18 AND YOU WANT A TREE IN YOUR FAMILY'S YARD,
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COME TO OUR ONE HOUR INFO SESSION ARBORIST 1 0 1 AND JUST TO LIKE PEAK THEIR INTEREST IN ECOLOGY AND WE'RE GONNA TEACH YOU HOW TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR TREE WHEN YOU'RE THERE AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO OUT THERE AND HELP YOU PLANT YOUR TREE NEXT TO YOU SO THAT YOU LEARN IT AND, AND THEN IT MIGHT JUST PEAK THEIR INTEREST AND THEY DECIDE TO STUDY THAT OR DO MORE WITH IT IN THEIR ADULT LIFE.YEAH, AND I WAS THINKING WITH THE CITY PLANTINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE HAPPENING.
ADOPTING ONE OF THOSE TREES, NOT NECESSARILY ONE IN THEIR YARD.
I GUESS WE COULD DO THAT AS WELL, BUT, UM, OR EVEN LIKE SCHOOL-WIDE NOMINATIONS, LIKE YEAH.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF IF IT NEEDS NECESSARILY JUST NEEDS TO BE THE SCHOOL, BUT I FEEL LIKE IF THERE WAS EITHER A NOMINATION OF SOMEBODY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS DONE A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY, THEY CAN GET AWARDED A TREE AND THEN MAYBE LIKE A PLACARD IN FRONT OF THE TREE OR EVEN LIKE PEOPLE CAN BUY A TREE AND THEY CAN BUY THE PLACARD AND HAVE LIKE THAT AROUND THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE DOABLE OR NOT.
ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT, IF NO ONE HAS ANY OTHER IDEAS, THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEW BUSINESS WITH REVIEWING THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT POLICY.
SO IF YOU RECALL THE LAST TIME I BROUGHT THIS TO YOU, I THINK THAT WE WERE CALLING IT, UM, THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT POLICY BECAUSE THE IDEA REALLY STEMMED ON COST RECOVERY, WHICH IS WHAT IT SAYS IN FRONT OF ME NOW THAT IT'S A DROP DRAFT COST RECOVERY POLICY.
UM, THE, THE CITY HAS A FINITE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE OUR BUCKET AND WHAT WE NEED HELP FROM THE PUBLIC THROUGH YOU, THROUGH ADVISORY BOARDS LIKE YOU, THROUGH ELECTED MEMBERS LIKE CITY COUNCIL, IS TO FIGURE OUT, UM, HOW THAT BUCKET OF RESOURCES GETS SPENT.
AND IN OUR BUCKET IS OF COURSE MONEY, BUT THERE'S ALSO THINGS LIKE STAFF ARE RESOURCES AND LAND IS RESOURCES AND EQUIPMENT IS RESOURCES.
AND SO WHAT IS THE PROPER ALLOCATION OF RESOURCES? AND SO THE EASIEST ONE TO THINK OF, OF COURSE, BEING MONEY, UM, WE THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE WANT OUR TAX DOLLARS TO BE ALLOCATED IN THE COMMUNITY? BASICALLY, HOW MUCH, UM, DO WE WANT TO BE PUTTING, WHAT PERCENTAGE SHOULD WE BE SUPPORTING PARKS AN OPEN PIECE OF PARKLAND WITH OUR TAX MONEY AND WHAT PERCENTAGE SHOULD WE BE SUPPORTING, UM, PROGRAMS LIKE LEARN TO SNOWSHOE WITH OUR TAX MONEY.
IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE DIFFERENT ON YOUR PERSPECTIVE OF HOW MUCH WE SHOULD SUPPORT JUST AN OPEN PARK LAND THAT ANYONE CAN USE, LEARN TO SNOWSHOE THAT ONLY PEOPLE INTERESTED IN SNOWSHOEING WOULD WANT TO DO, AND THEN, UH, RESALE, LIKE BUY A WATER BOTTLE AT THE CONCESSION STAND, WHICH ONLY PEOPLE WHO FORGOT THEIR WATER BOTTLES AND WANT TO DRINK WATER WOULD DO.
SO WE STARTED KIND OF LOOKING AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
ULTIMATELY, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE EASIER TO THINK ABOUT, UM, FROM THE, THE OTHER WAY AS IN TERMS OF COST RECOVERY.
SO SPECIFICALLY, UM, FOR THE THINGS THAT THIS PARKS DEPARTMENT PUTS ON, UM, I HAVE COMPILED THIS AND YOU'LL NOTICE NUMBERS ON PAGE TWO THROUGH THREE.
THERE'S, UM, THESE CATEGORIES, NUMBERS ONE THROUGH 10, AND THOSE ARE ACTUALLY THE SAME 10 CATEGORIES THAT YOU ALL WERE DELIVERED, UM, LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE.
AND UM, ACTUALLY THERE WAS AN 11TH CATEGORY TOO THAT WAS BOARD AND COMMISSION ACTIVITIES, BUT THAT'S NOTED IN HERE.
UM, AND YOU ALL PUT THEM IN ORDER FROM THIS IS WHAT OUR TAX MONEY SHOULD SPEND, YOU KNOW, THE MOST PERCENTAGE SUPPORTING TO, WE SHOULDN'T REALLY SUPPORT THIS AS MUCH.
AND IN FACT IT'S A WAY TO GAIN REVENUES BACK INTO THE DEPARTMENT.
SO, UM, I'LL JUST HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS AND THEN LEAVE YOU TO READ IT FOR A MINUTE.
BUT BASICALLY WE STARTED WITH THE IDEA OF A PUBLIC GOOD AND THAT IS OUR PARKS AND OPEN SPACES.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO MANDATE THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT RECOVER ANY MONEY SPENT ON MOWING THE GRASS, TRIMMING THE TREES, KEEPING THE WALKWAYS OPEN, JUST LITERALLY PROVIDING A SPACE THAT PEOPLE CAN GO TO.
UM, ONCE WE START TO ACTIVATE THE PARKS, WE WANT TO REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT MORE RECOVERY BECAUSE THERE'S, AS YOU ACTIVATE THEM, THERE'S MORE POTENTIAL FOR RECOVERY AS WELL.
SO THINGS LIKE COMMUNITY EVENTS,
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WHICH WOULD BE LIKE STAR-SPANGLED HEIGHTS, BIG OPEN, LOW BARRIERS TO ENTRY.THE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK OF SOMETHING ALSO LIKE THE, THE VETERANS EVENT THAT THEY DO AT THE VETERANS MEMORIAL, LOW BARRIER TO ENTRY, SOMETHING EVERYONE CAN ENJOY, YOU CAN COME TO, UM, WE WOULD SEEK 5% RECOVERY.
THE BEST EXAMPLE OF THAT IN OUR DEPARTMENT IS THE OPERATION OF THE SENIOR CENTER AND THEN PASSIVE MEETUP ACTIVITIES, WHICH WOULD BE KIND OF HELPING MAYBE HIKING ENTHUSIASTS.
THERE'S A HIKING MEETUP ON TUESDAY NIGHT.
SO JUST ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO GET OUT AND USE THE PARKS IN THE WAY THAT THEY WERE INTENDED TO BE USED.
UM, OH, WE'RE GONNA GO PUT SOME INTERPRETIVE SIGNS OUT ABOUT BUTTERFLIES OR THE DIFFERENT WILD FLOWERS THAT ARE HERE SO THAT PEOPLE WILL ACTIVATE THIS SPACE IN A PASSIVE MEETUP WAY.
YOU DON'T NEED A STAFF MEMBER THERE HOLDING YOUR HAND, BUT WE'VE DONE SOMETHING TO KIND OF ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET OUT.
WE'D ALSO SHOOT FOR 5% RECOVERY ON THAT.
AND THEN WE START TO GET INTO THE ACTUAL, UM, SKILL BUILDER ACTIVITIES WHERE WE ARE, UM, TEACHING YOU TO DO SOMETHING, HELPING YOU TO LEARN SOMETHING.
UM, AND WE'D WANNA RECOVER A HUNDRED PERCENT ON THAT.
UM, CURRENTLY WE DON'T OFFER ANYTHING THAT, ANY PROGRAM THAT IS BOTH SKILL BUILDER AND I THINK A HUMAN SERVICE, YOU CAN KIND OF, UM, IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE YMCA'S OFFERINGS, IT MIGHT GET A LITTLE MURKIER BECAUSE YOUTH SWIM LESSONS, WE COULD ARGUE THAT'S INDIVIDUAL ONLY THE KID LEARNING TO SWIM IS GETTING THE BENEFIT.
BUT IN ACTUALITY WHEN A COMMUNITY SUFFERS A YOUTH DROWNING, IT'S ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIC ACROSS THE BOARD.
UM, TO OFFER SERVICES LIKE THAT, TO MITIGATE DROWNING, TO ADD WATER SAFETY TO THE COMMUNITY IS KIND OF A HUMAN SERVICE.
SO OFTEN YOU'LL SEE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE, UM, SWIM LESSONS DON'T REQUIRE THAT THEY RECOVER A HUNDRED PERCENT BECAUSE THEY DO SEE IT AS A HUMAN SERVICE.
SO, UM, BUT BECAUSE THE YMCA TAKES CARE OF THAT FOR US AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN STANDARDS AND METRICS, UM, WE LOOKED AT INTRODUCTORY SKILL BUILDER ACTIVITIES AS RECOVERING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF WHAT WE SPEND ON THEM.
AND THEN LEISURE ACTIVITIES, UM, THAT'S MORE OF THE ART IN THE PARK.
UH, MAYBE, UM, SOMETHING CHARCUTERIE IN THE PARK THAT WE'VE HAD BEFORE.
UM, THOSE ARE LEISURELY, THEY ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY BUILDING A SKILL THAT'S GOING TO HELP US USE OUR ENVIRONMENT AROUND US THEN AS WE GET HIGHER UP.
SO AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, AN INTRO TO UM, BIRDWATCHING SHOULD PROBABLY COST LESS THAN THE ADVANCED BIRDWATCHING CLASS.
UM, YOU GET A LITTLE HIGHER UP WITH INTERMEDIATE TO ADVANCED ACTIVITIES, SPECIAL EVENTS AT 110%.
SO AN EXAMPLE OF A SPECIAL EVENT, UM, MIGHT BE THE UM, SHAKESPEARE GROUP THAT WE'VE HAD OUT.
UM, BECAUSE THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, ANYBODY COULD COME AND ENJOY IT, BUT IT IS TYPICALLY GOING TO ATTRACT A NICHE CROWD.
WE WOULD WANT TO RECOVER 110%, UM, RENTALS AND RESERVATIONS THAT IS EXCLUSIVE USE OF OUR FACILITIES.
AND THEN, UM, IF YOU, YOU MIGHT THINK YES, IF YOU ARE GOING TO MONOPOLIZE THE COMMUNITY CENTER ON A SATURDAY AND NOBODY ELSE CAN GO IN AND USE IT, THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE GROSSING A LITTLE REVENUE TOWARDS THE OPERATION OF THE PARKS.
I DON'T THINK ANY TAXPAYER OUT THERE THINKS WE SHOULD BE SUBSIDIZING THE RESALE OF A HOT DOG AT A CONCESSION STAND THAT WE'RE OPERATING.
NOW THEY MIGHT SAY SUBSIDIZE THAT HOT DOG ONCE A YEAR AT THE COMMUNITY WIDE WEENIE ROAST BASH BECAUSE IT'S GOOD FOR COMMUNITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THAT CHANGES THE NATURE OF, CHANGES THE NATURE OF THE HOT DOG, I THINK.
UM, SO THAT IS WHERE WE HAD LANDED THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
THIS IS AN ANNUAL ITEM FOR YOU TO LOOK AT.
UM, YOU WILL SEE IN RED THERE'S SOME HIGHLIGHTED OTHER POLICIES REFERENCED, UM, FACILITY USE POLICY AND AN EVENTS POLICY.
AND BOTH OF THOSE WOULD WORK IN TANDEM WITH THIS, BUT THIS COST RECOVERY POLICY IS KIND OF, UM, ONE OF THE BASIC BASIC BUILDING BLOCKS, UM, TO, AND I DON'T INTEND MUCH CHANGE WITH THE PUBLIC FACILITIES POLICY THAT YOU APPROVE TWO YEARS AGO, BUT IF WE DO CHANGE ANYTHING, I WILL BRING IT BACK TO YOU AS WELL.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE A MINUTE TO DIGEST THAT, I JUST SAID A LOT OF WORDS, UM, AND I WOULD LOVE FEEDBACK RECONFIRMATION THAT THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THE LAYERS OR NO, ACTUALLY WE DISAGREE AND WE MIGHT NEED TO GO THROUGH, UM, A NEXT MEETING PLAN TO RE BRAINSTORM
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HOW WE ACTUALLY SEE THIS KIND OF PYRAMID OF SUBSIDY BEING BUILT.SO JUST SO I'M UNDERSTANDING, SO ANYTHING OVER A HUNDRED PERCENT IS SUBSIDIZING THE THINGS THAT ARE LESS THAN A HUNDRED PERCENT.
IS THAT THE BASIC IDEA? CORRECT.
DO, DO WE NEED THAT SUBSIDY? SO THE COLLECTING REVENUES, PROGRAMMATIC REVENUES ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE TO DO PROGRAMS. UM, WE HAVE THE FUNDS TO MAINTAIN THE PARKS EARMARKED AND WE HAVE, UM, FUNDS TO KIND OF DO LIKE ONE, UM, 2, 3, 4 ON THERE.
AND THEN AFTER THAT IT'S UM, IT WOULD BEGIN TO BE A DRAIN ON THE TAXPAYERS MONEY TO OFFER THOSE, THOSE THINGS.
SO, SO JUST SO YOU SAY, WE HAVE THE, THE BUDGET TO DO ONE THROUGH FOUR WITHOUT THE SUBSIDIES FROM SIX THROUGH 10.
RIGHT? SO THIS THEORY WOULD INFORM ME AND MY STAFF ON WHAT WE COULD BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO, UM, IF I, IF YOU'RE SAYING, HEY, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE TO RECOVER ANYTHING, THEN I COULD PUT INTO MY EXPENSE BUDGET $2,000 FOR HOT DOGS, UM, WITHOUT PUTTING IN MY REVENUE BUDGET ALSO $2,000 FOR HOT DOGS.
BUT I THINK CITY COUNCIL'S EXPECTATION WOULD BE, WHY ARE YOU SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY ON THE HOT DOGS AND NOT BRINGING ANY MONEY ON THE HOT DOGS? AND SO THIS, THIS IS KIND OF YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO GUIDE THE THEORY BEHIND OUR BUDGETING.
UM, WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR 27 BUDGETED AT ALL.
WE'RE UNDERGOING THE BUDGETING PROCESS.
SO, UM, THIS WOULD INFORM ME AND MOLLY, WE KNOW WE WANNA OFFER THREE SPECIAL EVENTS AND TWO YOUTH ACTIVITIES AND DAH DAH DAH DAH, AND WE THINK WE'RE GONNA SPEND THIS MUCH ON 'EM.
HOW MUCH DO WE NEED TO BE AIMING FOR IN, IN RECOVERY? SO THIS IS COM THIS IS, UM, WHY I ORIGINALLY STARTED THE PROCESS AS YOUR COMMUNITY INVESTMENT THEORY.
YOU HAVE A BUCKET OF RESOURCES, IT'S FINITE NO MATTER HOW BIG IT IS.
ONE YEAR, 20,000,001 YEAR, 17 MILLION, 1 MILLION, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU HAVE A BUCKET.
UM, WHERE WOULD YOU PUT THAT BUCKET AND WHERE WOULD YOU ACTUALLY EXPECT OTHER THINGS TO LIKE FILL INTO THE BUCKET? I THINK WHEN YOU DON'T MAKE MONEY ON SOME THINGS, YOU DO A COUPLE NEGATIVE THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
ONE, YOU'RE FAILING TO RECOUP, UH, THE VALUE OF THE ASSET.
SO IF YOU THINK, IF YOU THINK OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS LIKE STOCKHOLDERS IN THE CITY AND, AND THEY OWN STOCK IN THAT PARK AND YOU FAIL TO UH, CAPITALIZE ON SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE EASY TO CAPITALIZE ON, YOU'VE KIND OF FAILED THEIR FINANCIAL UM, ABILITIES.
AND THEN TWO, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET INTO THINGS LIKE FITNESS CLASSES, UM, YOU COULD ACTUALLY END UP NEGATIVELY COMPETING WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
UM, IF YOU AREN'T KEEPING UP WITH THE MARKET THERE.
'CAUSE JUST 'CAUSE THE GOVERNMENT CAN OFFER FREE YOGA EVERY NIGHT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULD.
'CAUSE THEN THERE'S 10 YOGA INSTRUCTORS IN THE CITY THAT AREN'T GETTING STUDENTS.
SO WE HAD PREVIOUSLY BROUGHT UP SOME LIKE IDEAS AS FAR AS EVENTS AND STUFF.
WOULD THAT NOT BE MORE DEPENDENT ON THIS AND VICE VERSA? I MEAN, SHOULD WE HA SHOULD WE HAVE A MORE FINALIZED IDEA OF WHAT EVENTS WE'RE GONNA BE DOING IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR BEFORE WE DECIDE ON ALLOCATION OF LIKE THE BUDGETING OR, SO, UM, THE UNDER NUMBER 10, THE LAST LITTLE CAVEAT WHEN WE ORIGINALLY WENT THROUGH THIS UM, PROCESS, THERE WAS AN 11, UM, AND THE 11 WAS BOARD AND COMMISSION PROGRAMMING.
AND WE HAD A REALLY GREAT DISCUSSION AND TWO VERY DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON IT.
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WE'RE THE BORDER COMMISSION, WE'RE THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.IF WE WANNA PUT ON A PROGRAM, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND FIND THE MONEY TO DO IT.
AND THE OTHER PERSON SAID, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WE'RE THE PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY TRYING TO BE HERE TELLING THE CITY WHAT WE REALLY NEED? AND SO IF WE'RE SAYING, HEY CITY, WE NEED THIS.
EVEN IF THERE'S NOT A SPONSOR OR A DONOR OUT THERE OR SOMEONE WHO WILL GIVE THEIR TIME TO PUT IT ON THE CITY SHOULD LISTEN TO US BECAUSE WE CAME AND WE SAT ON THIS BOARD AND WE'RE SAYING THAT WE NEED IT.
SO WE KIND OF HAD THE OPPOSITE ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM.
AND SO, UM, I HAVE LIMITED THIS TO JUST DEPARTMENT OFFERINGS.
SO WHAT YOU WILL CHOOSE TO CHAMPION, LIKE THE CREEK WALKS WILL NOT BE MANDATED TO THIS COST RECOVERY.
NOW WHAT WE DO IS WHEN WE SIT DOWN WITH THAT CHAMPION, CASEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS, OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS AND WE FILL OUT, WE HAVE A PROGRAM FORM THAT WE JUST FILL OUT FOR RECORD KEEPING AND WE'LL SAY, HEY, IF IT WERE US OFFERING THIS, WE'D BE TRYING TO RECOUP 5%.
DO YOU THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT? AND THE PERSON MIGHT SAY, NOPE, WE JUST NEED TO GET IT DONE AND THEN WE GET IT DONE.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE USE IT AS AN ADVISORY TOOL.
SAME WITH WHEN WE MET WITH THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY COMMISSION.
WE SAY, HEY, IF WE WERE DOING THIS, WE'D BE LOOKING FOR A SPONSORSHIP OR A DONATION IN THIS AMOUNT, BUT IF YOU DON'T GET IT, THAT'S OKAY.
WE'RE STILL HERE TO HELP YOU PUT ON YOUR PROGRAM.
YES, BRIAN, I JUST, WITH THIS CONVERSATION JUST, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, UH, TALK ABOUT REPO MONEY.
UH, WHEN WE HAVE LIKE, UH, THE MOVIE NIGHTS, CONCERT NIGHTS AND ALL THAT, WE HAVE FOOD TRUCKS THERE.
DO THE FOOD TRUCKS THAT ARE JUST THERE FOR FREE OR DO THEY ACTUALLY DO A LITTLE KICKBACK FOR BEING THERE? THEY ARE CHARGED A FEE UPFRONT.
SO WHETHER OR NOT THEY DO SALES.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A PART OF THAT.
SAY WE DO THAT AND THEN WE GET A LITTLE BIT FROM THE, FROM THAT.
'CAUSE I WAS ON THINKING IT'S LIKE WHAT IF WE HAD A CONCESSION STAND THERE? YOU KNOW, JUST THE TYPE, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE, THE VOLUNTEERS IN THE CITY WAS, YOU KNOW, RUNNING A CONCESSION STAND THERE INSTEAD OF HAVING FOOD TRUCKS.
BUT, BUT THAT'S, I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S A FORM OF GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY FROM PUTTING ON A PROGRAM.
AND THAT IS HOW WE GET A LOT OF, SO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE REQUIRE HERE AT 5% THAT IS HOW WE DO IT, IS WITH A FOOD TRUCK, UM, OR OTHER VENDORS.
UM, BECAUSE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.
SO WHEN WE HAVE EVEN A YOUTH EVENT, WE GET A FOOD TRUCK OR TWO, WE'VE HIT THAT 5%.
NOW WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE, THE REMAINDER, UM, TRYING TO CHARGE ANYBODY AN ENTRY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND IT, IT SEEMS TO BE A VERY GOOD WAY TO GAIN REVENUES BECAUSE FOOD TRUCKS ARE EAGER, EAGER TO VEN IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO ANY UM, FEEDBACK ON THAT? YOU CAN SEND IT MY WAY.
WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TIME TO REVISIT? I MEAN I, I I THINK PUT ON AGENDA TO FINALIZE IT NEXT WEEK OR NEXT SESSION WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
UM, AND THEN I SHOULD HAVE, UM, THOSE OTHER TWO POLICIES REFERENCED TOO THAT I CAN BRING BEFORE YOU.
UM, AND I'LL TRY AND SEND 'EM OUT BEFOREHAND, SUE.
'CAUSE THEY ALL THREE WORK TOGETHER AND UM, IS IT REASONABLE TO ASK THAT WE HAVE DOLLAR FIGURES TO SHOW HOW MUCH IS ACTUALLY COMING EACH OF THESE 10 CATEGORIES? IS THAT AVAILABLE? 'CAUSE THE PERCENTS CAN BE MISLEADING IF IT'S ONLY A SMALL PROGRAM AND RIGHT.
NOT GETTING MUCH AND IT COULD BE A BIGGER, I MEAN, RIGHT.
UM, WE HAVE PROGRAM FORMS THAT WOULD SHOW EACH INDIVIDUAL PROGRAM, WE COULD SHOW YOU THIS ONE DID, PERFORMED THIS WAY, UM, AND AT THE BEGINNING WE SET THE COST RECOVERY CATEGORY AND THEN GO FROM THERE.
BUT YOU CAN HIT THE COST RECOVERY AS YOU'VE JUST MENTIONED, BY LOWERING YOUR EXPENSES AS WELL, UM, IF YOUR REVENUES AREN'T COMING IN.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE BEST THAT I COULD PROBABLY DO ON THAT.
UM, I COULD, I COULD PROBABLY HAVE IT PUT INTO A, UM, SPREADSHEET.
BECAUSE FINANCIALLY, LIKE ON A FINANCIAL REPORTING, EVERYTHING GETS PUT IN BASED ON DIFFERENT CATEGORIES RATHER THAN COST RECOVERY CATEGORIES.
IT GETS PUT IN ON, UM, FACILITY RENTAL IS, IS A ONE LINE AND ARTS PROGRAMMING IS ANOTHER LINE.
AND PARK BOARD PROGRAMMING IS ANOTHER LINE.
BUT AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THOSE TWO ARE ACTUALLY IN THE SAME COST RECOVERY CATEGORY AND
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OKAY.SO YEAH, LET ME, UM, MEETING, OKAY.
WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO REVIEWING THE PARK RULES.
SO YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU THE ACTUAL, UM, CHAPTER IN OUR CITY MUNICIPAL CODE ON PARK RULES.
IT IS A BIT LENGTHY, SO I DO NOT INTEND TO TACKLE IT ALL TONIGHT.
BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS BECAUSE ONE, WE'RE LOOKING TO ORDER SOME RULE SIGNS AND UH, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA PUT ON 'EM.
WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT GONNA PUT ALL OF THESE ON HERE, BUT THE ONES THAT ARE MOST APPLICABLE.
AND TWO, UM, THERE ARE SOME, YOU KNOW, POPULAR TOPICS OUT THERE IN THE WORLD OF PARK RULES RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, THE SECOND PAGE, UM, I USED MY AI ASSISTANT, YOU WILL PROBABLY NOTICE TO HELP ME FIND SOME EXAMPLES OF AREAS THAT WE HAD KNOWN DEFICIENCIES.
SO, UM, WE HAD KNOWN DEFICIENCIES IN E-BIKES AND SCOOTERS AND I GET A CALL ABOUT ONCE A WEEK THAT SOMEBODY GOT MOWED DOWN AT CLOUD PARK AND THEY WANT A, AN ORDINANCE ON E-BIKES AND SCOOTERS.
I DO HAVE A COUNTERPART IN POLICE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THAT, BUT OUR PLAN IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PARKS DON'T KICK EVERYBODY OUTTA THE PARKS AT THE SAME TIME THE POLICE KICKED EVERYBODY INTO THE PARKS.
RIGHT? SO WE'LL BE WORKING TOGETHER ON IT, BUT, UM, COMMUNITY CITIZEN FEEDBACK WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT ON THAT TOPIC.
THAT'S WHY I'M PUTTING IT BEFORE YOU.
DRONES ARE VERY POPULAR AND WE DO HAVE SOME UNIQUE CONSIDERATIONS BEING SO CLOSE TO WRIGHT PATTERSON AIR FORCE BASE THAT WE SHOULD PUT OUT THERE.
SMOKING, VAPING, TOBACCO, NICOTINE, UM, PHOTOGRAPHY, FILMING COMMERCIAL SHOOTS.
UM, OCCASIONALLY THAT POPS UP THAT IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED MORE IN MY FORMER POSITION WHERE WE WOULD GET CALLS, PEOPLE WANTING TO SHOOT MOVIES IN ART PARKS AND FACILITIES ALL THE TIME.
UM, OFTENTIMES IT WAS LIKE STUDENT FILMS, BUT WE NEED A, SOME SORT OF PERMITTING PROCESS, SOMETHING, UM, TO BE IN LINE WITH MOST OTHER COMMUNITIES OUT THERE.
TRAIL ETIQUETTE, WHICH IS MORE THAN JUST THE E-BIKE, BUT, YOU KNOW, KEEP TO THE RIGHT CLEANUP AFTER YOURSELF.
UM, WHAT, WHO YIELDS TO WHO, WHO, UM, BIKES, HORSES, PEOPLE ALL YIELD DIFFERENTLY WHEN YOU'RE ON A TRAIL.
AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY EQUINE TRAILS IN OUR SYSTEM.
UM, BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE AND TEMPORARY STRUCTURES, INFLATABLES AND KIND OF EVENT ADD-ONS, LIKE IF YOU RENT OUR PARK SHELTER, WHAT ARE YOU ALLOWED TO ALSO ADD ON OUT THERE? CAN YOU PUT 13 INFLATABLES NEXT TO IT? I DON'T KNOW.
I NEED YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT ONE.
SO, UM, ONE I WANTED TO INVITE GENERAL DISCUSSION NOW, BUT TWO, I WANTED TO SEE IF MAYBE WE COULD SIGN ONE OR TWO PEOPLE UP PER CATEGORY TO, UM, REALLY DEEP DIVE INTO THAT.
SO LIKE, IF CASEY TAKES ON E-BIKES, THEN SHE COMES BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING AND HAS A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY DO ABOUT OUR E-BIKES BECAUSE THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE, OR I DON'T LIKE THIS, I DO LIKE THIS.
AND IT WOULD BE FOR THE ACTUAL RULE.
UM, I'M LOVE FEEDBACK ON THE TYPE OF SIGNAGE AND EVERYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TOO, BUT, UM, THE FIRST THING WE HAVE TO START WITH IS, IS THE RULE.
SO YES, BRIAN, UH, I I I'LL DO THE CHEAT CODE AND UH, VOLUNTEER FOR THE SMOKING VAPING.
HOW DID I KNOW
AND THIS WILL GO TO COUNCIL AS AN ORDINANCE.
SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS YOU MAKE WILL BE YEAH, I KNOW I'VE BEEN TEXTING A LOT WITH ALL THOSE LITTLE STUFF.
YOU DID SEE THE SIGNS I PUT OUT FOR SOCCER FIELDS, THE, MY YOUNG LUNGS THINGS.
LET'S GET IN AN ORDINANCE JUST QUICKLY ON THE LAST ONE THERE.
TEMPORARY STRUCTURES, INFLATABLES.
IF I WERE TO RENT A SHELTER, PUT UP TWO OR THREE INFLATABLES AND A CHILD GETS HURT, IS THERE A LIABILITY TO, TO US SO TO SPEAK VERSUS INSURANCE OR NOT INSURANCE? HOW, HOW DOES THAT YES.
ME, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE JUST BE GONE BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW GOOD OF A PARENT I AM, SOMEBODY'S
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GOING TO GO ROGUE OR SOMETHING AND DO SOMETHING THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO DO ON AN INFLATABLE OR ONE OF THE OBSTACLE COURSES THAT THEY HAVE NOWADAYS IN THERE TOO.SO, UM, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT CURRENTLY WORKS.
IF YOU RENT OUR PARK SHELTER AND YOU WANT TO PUT AN INFLATABLE OUT, THE FIRST THING THAT THAT TRIGGERS IS NOW YOU HAVE MORE THAN A PRIVATE RENTAL.
YOU HAVE AN EVENT BECAUSE YOU ARE CHANGING THE NATURE OF THE PARK SYSTEM.
SO IN ADDITION TO YOUR $25 WE CHARGED YOU FOR THE SHELTER, I CHARGED YOU $25 FOR AN EVENT, THEN I'M GONNA CHARGE YOU, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THE INFLATABLE AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA INSURE THE CITY ADDITIONALLY INSURED FOR $2 MILLION.
UM, THAT'S WHAT CURRENTLY HAPPENS.
NOW THAT'S NOT REALLY WRITTEN IN OUR RULES, SO IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE, UM, BECAUSE HERE'S ANOTHER THING THAT HAPPENS ON JUST A, LIKE, OH, I DIDN'T GET A SHELTER RENTAL, BUT MY FAMILY JUST WANTS TO GO OUT AND ENJOY CLOUD PARK BY THE SPLASH PAD AND I'M JUST GONNA SET UP A 10 BY 10 POP-UP TENT.
WELL IF THAT POPUP TENT BLOWS OVER AND DAMAGES SOMEONE'S CAR OR HURTS A CHILD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT.
WHICH, YOU KNOW, HELPS THE CITY'S CASE.
BUT SHOULD A PERSON BE ALLOWED TO PUT UP A TENT BY 10 POPUP TENT, UM, IN THE PARK, IF THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO, THEN WHAT SIZE DO WE SAY, OKAY, NOW YOU'VE GOTTEN TOO BIG.
CAN THEY DO THE 12 BY 12? CAN THEY DO 20 BY 20? DOES IT MATTER HOW MUCH THE TENT WEIGHS? DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE STAKES OR WEIGHTS OR, UM, IS IT ONLY AVAILABLE IN SOME PARKS? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GONNA STAKE IT, WE'VE GOT IRRIGATION IN OTHER PARKS YOU COULD END UP DAMAGING IF YOU STAKED IT.
SO, UM, IF SO BRIAN, HOW, HOW WOULD THAT DO FOR A TOURNAMENT? WELL, IF MOM OR DAD'S COMING FROM CLEVELAND MM-HMM
THEY HAVE NO IDEA OF THE YEAH, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, MOM'S DAD'S BRINGING STUFF 'CAUSE THEY DO THAT.
I ACTUALLY, I JUST HAD SOMEBODY THAT ON TUESDAY NIGHT THE COACH BROUGHT FOR HIS VAN, YOU KNOW, VANDALIA TEAM, YOU KNOW, A SHADE.
UH, BUT I KNOW WHEN WE SOCCER, WHEN WE HAVE TOURNAMENTS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PUT OUR, YOU KNOW, SEMI PERMIT, WHATEVER OUR TENTS UP, WE HAVE TO GET THE FIRE MARSHAL OUT THERE TO INSPECT THEM AND ALL THAT STUFF.
BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, EVENTS AND I'M PRETTY SURE ALL THE FOOD TRUCKS AND ALL THEM, WHEN THEY DO STUFF LIKE THAT, USUALLY THEY GOTTA GET INSPECTED TOO.
SO WE, UM, IF A TENT IS 20 BY 20, IT HAS TO BE INSPECTED BY THE CITY AND COUNTY PERMITTED.
AND THEN, UM, SMALLER THAN THAT WHEN WE HAVE THEM AT EVENTS, BECAUSE MAYBE WE HAVE A VENDOR THAT'S USING THEM TO SELL UNDER, UM, WE DO REQUIRE WEIGHTS OR STAKES DEPENDING ON THE SETUP AREA.
UM, BUT IF WE JUST ALLOW PEOPLE TO DO THAT ON THE PARKS ON A REGULAR BASIS, WE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD JUST NEED TO THEN MAKE THE RULE THAT YOU HAVE IT WEIGHTED OR STAKED.
AND THEN WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE SOME SITES WHERE THAT'S NOT ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.
BECAUSE LIKE AT THE EEL BERG THAT'S ALL IRRIGATED, UM, IN THE, I THINK IN THE AQUATIC CENTER THERE'S IRRIGATION SO IT, IT SHOULD SOMETHING LIKE THAT PASS PARTWAY BEFORE THE HORSE HERE WHO MONITORS THAT? SO I COME OUT ON A THURSDAY, I SET UP A TENT AT THE SPLASH PAD IT AND CAN'T DO IT.
WHO IS GONNA BE THERE TO TELL THEM THAT YOU CAN'T DO THAT OR THEY GET BY THE WHOLE DAY WITH AND NO WIND, NO NOTHING, NOBODY GETS HURT AND NOBODY KNEW ABOUT IT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE TENT ONE.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE PARK DOCENTS OR ANYBODY OUT THERE TRYING TO CATCH ANYBODY DOING ANYTHING YOU CAN RIGHT NOW.
LIKE WE'VE GOT EXISTING RULES, DOGS HAVE TO BE ON A LEASH.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY OUT THERE ACTIVELY WATCHING THAT.
UM, BUT WHEN THE POLICE BECOME AWARE OF IT, THEY CAN CITE FOR IT.
AND SO THIS WOULD BE LIKELY IN A SIMILAR VEIN THAT WE COULD CITE FOR IT.
ALSO, HAVING A RULE AND HAVING IT STATED DOES IT, IT'S LIKE ANOTHER LAYER OF PROTECTION TO THE CITY TOO THAT, SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE SAID YOU COULDN'T HAVE A POP-UP TENT.
IT SAYS IT RIGHT THERE ON THAT BOARD THAT'S 30 FEET AWAY FROM YOU THAT YOU HAD TO WALK PAST TO GET TO THIS AMENITY.
I MEAN IT'S POSTED SOMEWHERE OR ON THE WEBSITE OR WHATEVER MM-HMM
AND I GUESS I'M LOOKING FOR PROTECTION THAT SOMEBODY GOT BY WITH IT AND THEN A FREAK STORM COMES THROUGH AND INJURES A CHILD OR WHATEVER.
NOW SAID FAMILY IS AFTER CITY FOR DAMAGES OR WHATEVER.
IS THAT ONE YOU WANT TO CHAMPION THEN RON? YOU WANNA CHAMPION BACK AND SEE WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES DO? AND I DID IN
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BLUE.I CAN SEND THIS OUT BECAUSE UM, THE, UH, AI DID, DID LINK RIGHT IN THERE TO THESE RULES AT THESE OTHER PLACES.
SO I CAN SEND IT OUT AN EMAIL.
UM, AND THEN YOU COULD READ THOSE TWO.
LIKE YOU COULD READ AND SAY, I DON'T LIKE WHAT HAMILTON COUNTY DOES.
LET'S, I WILL, I WILL, UH, PEPPER AND WORK ON TODD FILMING COMMERCIAL UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS THAT.
WELL I THINK A COUPLE PEOPLE COULD TAKE THE SAME.
YEAH, ANDY? UM, I CAN DO THE E-BIKE AND SCOOTER ONE.
I CAN DO THE TRAIL ETIQUETTE AND IF YOU'D LIKE ASSISTANCE I CAN HELP YOU WITH THE TEMPORARY STRUCTURES ONE TOO.
YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO PAUSE BY THE NEXT MEETING? YES.
AT THE NEXT MEETING I WOULD LIKE YOU TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT I THINK THE RULE SHOULD BE AND THEN WHEN ONE OF YOUR FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS GOES, WHY YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF REASONING TO BACK UP WHY YOU THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE RULE? BECAUSE YOU ARE IN, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH OUR COMMUNITY TOO, RIGHT? LIKE OUR CLOUD PARK ISN'T THE SAME AS UM, YOU KNOW, RIVERSCAPE IT, IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT.
THE PEOPLE WHO USE IT ARE DIFFERENT.
UM, AND YOU GUYS ARE INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH OUR COMMUNITY, SO IT'S PERFECT.
IF YOU DIDN'T GET WRITTEN DOWN FOR ONE, ALEX, UM, YOU JUST PICK ONE AND YOU, YOU JUST COME BACK WITH IT.
WELL, I WOULD GO TO WORK WITH YOU OVER THERE.
OH, YOU'RE GONNA WORK ON THE BATHROOM? SO YOU ALREADY HAVE HOMEWORK.
UM, AND FOR ANY OF OUR OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, UM, I'LL PUT IT IN THE EMAIL WHEN I SEND THAT OUT.
LIKE JUST PICK, JUST PICK SOMETHING AND UM, AND IT WOULD BE, IT'S GOOD TOO IF YOU AREN'T IN AGREEMENT, LIKE IF RON AND MICHELLE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ON THEIR, ON WHAT THEY THINK THE PERSPECTIVE SHOULD BE ON TENTS IN THE PARKS, THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE THEN THE OTHER NINE OF YOU HELPED SIDE.
ALRIGHT, THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO VOLUNTEERS FOR THE YMCA TRUNK OR TREAT WITH, WITH THAT.
SHOULD WE ALSO TALK ABOUT THE HUBER HAUNTED HAPPY TRAIL THING SINCE THAT'S THE SAME WEEKEND? YES.
MOLLY IS LOOKING FOR GROUPS TO BE STOPS ON HUBER'S HAPPY HAUNTED TRAIL.
SO, UM, LAST YEAR WE HAD A LOT OF PASSIVE ACTIVITIES, LIKE YOU WALKED THROUGH A FOREST OF, UM, INFLATABLES AND THEN YOU SAW SKELETONS PLAYING ON THE PLAYGROUND.
AND I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THE, IT WAS MORE FUN IN THE AREAS WHERE WE HAD ACTORS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, UM, INTERACTING WITH THE KIDS.
AND SO SPECIFICALLY OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE SUCH GREAT, TRUSTED VOLUNTEERS, WE, UM, INVITE YOU TO HAVE A STOP.
I THINK YOU CAN DO IT WITH AS LITTLE AS 1, 2, 3 PEOPLE.
UM, BUT I THINK THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION IS FLIRTING WITH THE IDEA OF BEING LIKE VIKINGS ALONG THE WAY.
SO AGAIN, THIS ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE SCARY, UH, BUT IT'S LIKE DRESS UP AND MAKE BELIEVE IT IS STILL HALLOWEEN THEMES.
SO ANYONE OUT THERE WHO IS SENSITIVE TO SKELETONS OR GHOSTS OR VAMPIRES AT ALL.
THIS PROBABLY ISN'T THE PROGRAM FOR YOU.
IT'S NOT UM, DISNEY WORLD HALLOWEEN, BUT UM, IT, THERE'S NO JUMP AND GO BOO.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE LAST YEAR WE HAD A WITCH, SHE SAT AT A CAULDRON AND INVITED YOU TO ADOPT A KITTY AND SHE HAD A BIG THING OF STUFFED KITTENS AROUND HER AND YOU PICKED UP A KITTY AND, AND TOOK YOUR BLACK CAT, YOU KNOW.
SO HALLOWEEN THEME, BUT SMILEY, HAPPY WITCH WITH JUST TOO MANY CATS.
THAT IS THE FRIDAY NIGHT, THAT'S THE 23RD AND THEN THE, THE PAVING FOR CLA OR FOR COMMUNITY AND THE SHADE STRUCTURES, NONE OF THAT WILL INTERFERE.
THAT IS MY MAIN REQUEST OF ALL OF THEM.
CAN'T HAVE KIDS WALKING THROUGH WE ASPHALT.
I'M ASSUMING LIKE AN EMAIL WILL BE SENT OUT AS FAR AS LIKE VOLUNTEERING.
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I THINK IF FOR THAT ONE, YES YOU COULD JUST VOLUNTEER BUT UM, SHE'S LOOKING SPECIFICALLY FOR LIKE, HEY WE ARE THE PARK BOARD AND WE'RE GONNA BE STOP NUMBER THREE AND WE WANNA BE VAMPIRES, I DUNNO, WHATEVER IT OH, OKAY.UM, AND THEN YOU'D KIND OF ORGANIZE AMONGST YOURSELVES TO BE LIKE, UM, THAT, BUT THERE'S STILL TIME TOO.
AND THE 25TH, WE JUST NEED A COUPLE OF VOLUNTEERS TO WORK IN THE TENT AT THE YMCA, UM, TRUNK OR TREAT TO HAND OUT CANDY.
WHERE'S THIS, UH, LITTLE HOT LITTLE THING.
I KNOW I DON'T GO 20 COMMUNITY PARK.
WELL GOOD, GOOD, GOOD THING THIS YEAR IT'S AN AWAY GAME FOR WAYNE FOOTBALL.
YEAH, WE WAITED, WE WAITED UNTIL THE WAYNE FOOTBALL SCHEDULE WAS RELEASED, BUT I'LL, I'LL THERE TO PICK, PICK THE WEEKEND.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO LIKE UNITE AS A GROUP AND BE A STOP ON THE TRAIL, THAT'S FINE TOO.
WE CAN ALSO JUST PUT A CALL OUT FOR LIKE VOLUNTEERS AND WE'LL JUST FILL YOU IN KIND OF WHERE WE NEED YOU TOO.
I FEEL LIKE IF THE ARTS BOARD'S DOING SOMETHING, WE OUGHT TO HAVE A GROUP FEELING CHALLENGED.
I FEEL LIKE WE COULD PROBABLY FIGURE SOMETHING OUT MAYBE.
YEAH, THE SCARY PICKLEBALL PLAYERS.
YOU COULD BE PICKLEBALL PLAYERS.
BUT YOU COULD JUST BE PICKLEBALL PLAYERS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE LIKE RANDOMLY A BUNCH OF COSTUMES FROM SOMETHING IN THEIR LIFE THAT WOULD HELP? NOPE.
I HAVE LIKE ONE COSTUME BUT
WOULD WE HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT THE STATIONS ARE? NO, WE DON'T KNOW YET.
KIND OF WAITING TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE VOLUNTEERED.
UM, COULD I MAKE THE REQUEST OF THE BOARD TO CONSIDER ADDING, UM, AN ITEM TO THE AGENDA AND YOU WOULD NEED TO MOTION AND APPROVE IT FOR THAT TO BE DONE TO OFFICIALLY ADD, UM, THE TREE PLANTING PLAN AS LAST MEETING.
YOU WERE INTRODUCED TO IT ON OLD TROY.
UM, BUT IT WAS SAID THAT YOU WOULD GIVE ME FEEDBACK AT THIS MEETING.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE THAT FEEDBACK IF YOU WOULD ADD IT TO YOUR AGENDA.
I'M SORRY, I NEGLECTED TO ADD IT.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MOTION TO ADD THE TREE PLANTING PLAN TO YOUR AGENDA? I'LL MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL RIGHT THEN THE TREE PLANTING PLAN GO.
CAN WE MOVE ON TO IT MADAM CHAIR? I'LL ALLOW IT.
UM, RICH DID EMAIL ME SOME FEEDBACK, BUT I'D LOVE FOR HIM TO REPEAT IT HERE, UM, SO THAT THERE CAN BE OPPORTUNITY FOR DISCUSSION AND GET IT IN THE MINUTES.
UM, AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO HAD FEEDBACK ON THIS ROBUST PLANTING PLAN THAT WAS, UM, THIS IS JUST SUGGESTED FROM ODNR.
UM, WE CAN CHANGE IT, WE CAN CHANGE THE TREE SPECIES.
WE CAN SAY, UH, LET'S GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND THE PLACES WERE PRIMARILY CHOSEN BECAUSE TREES WERE REMOVED.
A HEAVY AMOUNT OF BRADFORD REPAIRS WERE REMOVED FROM THERE.
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IN THAT AREA LOST SOMETHING.AND TWO, UM, SPECIFICALLY DOWN BY LIKE DONATOS, THAT IS IN OUR, UM, ONE OF OUR HIGHER NEEDS CENSUS TRACTED AREAS.
AND SO WE WANTED TO REALLY BEAUTIFY THAT SPACE, UM, AS THAT WAS THE SPIRIT OF THE GRANT AS WELL, TO WORK IN THOSE CENSUS TRACKS.
YES, BRIAN? WELL, ONE OF MY CONCERNS I BROUGHT UP LAST MEETING WAS THE, YOU KNOW, PLANTING THE TREES IN THE, IN THE CITY RIGHT AWAY AREA.
AND THERE'S ONE THAT REALLY JUST IT THAT RIGHT OF WAS LIKE, IT'S NOT CAPITAL CLEANERS, IT'S A, UH, IT'S LIKE A LITTLE MARKET THAT'S ON THE CORNER OF BEAUFORT AND OLD TROY AND IT'S GOT LIKE TWO ENTRANCES, BUT THEN THERE'S LIKE AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE SECTION AND YOU'RE LIKE A TREE RIGHT THERE.
AND I'M LIKE, WELL, UH, PEOPLE ARE GOING IN AND OUT.
YOU DON'T, I WAS LIKE, THAT'S ONE SPOT WHERE IT COULD BE A BLIND SPOT.
IT WAS JUST, 'CAUSE I KNOW THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT YOU KNOW, THIS THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE, YOU KNOW, OR THE DOUBLE SHIP, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, IS WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PLANT TREES, RIGHT.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES DOWN ON THE STREETS, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE TREES PLANTED THERE BECAUSE IT DOES SLOW PEOPLE DOWN IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
BUT THEN WHEN YOU START GOING ON ROADS AND BEING CLOSE TO THE, A ROAD THAT YOU DON'T 30 NEED TO SLOW DOWN, THAT YOU'RE DOING 35 PEOPLE ARE DOING 35, 40, 50, LET'S BE HONEST, THEY'RE GOING REALLY QUICK.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, A BIG, SO MUCH A HAZARD THAT CLOSE TO THE ROAD.
I WOULDN'T THINK, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW.
I'M JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW COULD HAVE AN IDEA.
AND REALLY, BECAUSE OLD TROY AND BRAND PIKE, THEY'RE NOT EARLY ROADS.
THEY'RE LIKE, WHAT I LIKE TO CALL IS A STRODE.
IT'S A CROSS BETWEEN A STREET AND A ROAD AND THEY'RE HORRIBLE.
I JUST DON'T KNOW IF TREES WOULD BE SO GREAT THERE.
UH, MAYBE BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE PARKING LOT, BUT I DON'T KNOW, BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE STREET ROAD OR WHATEVER, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW.
I I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE I, WHO WHO SAID, YOU KNOW, PUT IT THERE.
AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL KNOWS THAT OR THE CITY KNOWS THAT, OH, THEY'RE PLAN ON PUTTING IT THERE AND IT'S ACTUALLY AGAINST OUR, OR OUR OWN ORDINANCE.
UM, WE ARE ALLOWED TO PLANT IN THE TREE LAWNS.
PRIVATE RESIDENTS I DON'T THINK ARE, SO I THINK THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
AND WE'RE ALSO RE-LOOKING AT OUR ZONING CODE.
UM, BUT THE IDEA WITH THESE TREES ARE, IS THE CITY IS PLANTING THEM AND THE CITY WILL HELP TO MAINTAIN THEM FOR THOSE FIRST TWO YEARS OF GROWTH.
AND THEN ANYTHING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, OBVIOUSLY THE CITY CONTINUES TO MAINTAIN.
SO, UM, YOU HAVE BROUGHT UP A GREAT POINT AND THERE ARE DIFFERING PERSPECTIVES WITHIN THE DEPARTMENTS, UM, THAT WE'VE HAD OUR OWN CONVERSATION, SHOULD TREES BE PLANTED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND I'M OF ONE OPINION, AND THERE'S A FEW PEOPLE IN THE CITY THAT I KNOW OF THAT ARE OF THE OTHER OPINION, AND I'M SURE THAT COUNCIL WILL HAVE AN OPINION, BUT YOU GUYS ARE OUR FIRST STOP TO HASH OUT THAT OPINION.
UM, THERE'S NOT THE, ALL THE TREES CHOSEN SHOULD NOT CAUSE DAMAGE TO THE ASPHALT OR THE CEMENT.
THEY'VE BEEN CHOSEN SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT.
UM, THEY'VE BEEN CHOSEN TO NOT OVERLY SCREEN IN FRONT OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES SO THAT YOU CAN STILL SEE PEOPLE'S, YOU KNOW, THE OIL CHANGES, PLACE SIGNS SO THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE LOSING BUSINESS.
UM, AND THEN SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN PLACED STRATEGICALLY CLOSE TO BUS STOPS SO THAT, UM, THERE WOULD BE SHADE AT A BUS STOP, HOPEFULLY.
SO, UM, OD AND R THE LOVELY URBAN FORESTERS LOVE PUTTING TREES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE DONE KIND OF A, A MIX WHERE THERE'S A NICE LAWN BEHIND THE SIDEWALK.
THAT'S WHERE THE TREES HAVE GONE.
AND THEN IN OTHERS THEY'VE PUT 'EM IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO YOU ALL ARE THE TREE BOARD YOU HAVE TO TELL US.
DO YOU RECOMMEND A PLAN LIKE THIS? DO YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE DON'T PLANT TREES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY ANYWHERE IN THE CITY OR UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD WE AND DISCUSS PLEASE,
I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S DIFFERENT KINDS OF TREES AND DIFFERENT SIZES OF TREES.
I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A BLANKET STATEMENT.
I MEAN, YOU SHOULDN'T PLANT A HUGE TREE IN A, IN A AREA.
WE'RE GONNA BLOCK LINE OF SIGHT OF TRAFFIC.
BUT YOU CAN PROBABLY PLANT A SMALL TREE THERE.
SO AS LONG AS YOU'RE LOGICAL ABOUT HOW YOU'RE PLANTING THE TREES, I THINK IT SHOULD BE FINE.
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OKAY.IT SHOULDN'T BE A BLANKET, IT SHOULD BE DEPENDENT ON THE AREA AND THE TYPE OF TREE THAT'S GOING THERE.
AND I'LL HAVE TO PROBABLY LOOK AGAIN.
THAT ONE I WAS JUST BLARING WHERE THE LOCATION WAS, WAS THE BEAUTIFUL, I THINK THERE'S A A BUS STOP THERE TOO.
AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHY OD AND R PROBABLY SAID, HEY, THIS IS BE GOOD SPOT FOR IT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME I'M LIKE, POTENTIALLY I, IT WAS JUST FOR ME, IT WAS JUST RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
IT JUST, THAT'S THE FIRST, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S THE FIRST ONE I JUST LIKE, OOH, THAT'S, THAT'S A BAD SPOT.
I NOTED THAT ONE AND WE CAN JUST, THAT ONE.
UM, ANOTHER OPINION I'D LIKE TO GET FROM Y'ALL BEFORE WE MOVE ON IS, UM, WE, THE, UM, COMMUNITY THAT PROBABLY FEELS THE BIGGEST LOSS OF THE BRADFORD PEARS IS RIGHT THERE, UM, ALONG OLD TROY PIKE, UM, AND SOUTH OF CAMPFORD THERE, THAT KIND OF REGION AREA.
UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ACROSS FROM WRIGHT, PAT CREDIT UNION, EVERYONE FAMILIAR WITH WHERE I'M TALKING IN THERE, UM, THEY LOST A LOT OF TREES AND THEIR PREVIOUSLY SCREENED HOMES ARE NOW JUST ON OLD TROY PIKE.
AND SO THEY OBVIOUSLY ARE BEING RECOMMENDED THE MOST ROBUST PLANTING, UM, WITH SOME SIGNIFICANT SCREENING.
AND THEN WE WANTED TO OFFER THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO END THEIR TREE LAWN.
WE PLANT AN ACTUAL FLOWERING TREE FOR THEM TO ENJOY.
UM, IT WOULD BE A, DO YOU WANT A TREE? YES OR NO? UM, QUESTION THE CITY WOULD BAG IT AND WATER IT FOR THE TWO YEARS, BUT ALSO YOU'D RECEIVE AFTER THAT SOME INFORMATION ON MAINTAINING IT.
UM, AND UM, WHEN TO CALL US, WHEN TO CALL THE TREE BOARD AND SAY, I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE TREE.
AND, AND IT WOULD BE PART OF OUR, UM, TREE INVENTORY.
SO WE WOULD BE CHECKING ON IT PERIODICALLY TOO, SO IT WOULDN'T BE COMPLETELY UNFORGOTTEN.
BUT WE DON'T ALSO, IF SOMEBODY'S LIKE, I DON'T LIKE TREES OR I'M ALLERGIC TO BEES, SO PLEASE DON'T PUT THAT IN MY YARD.
UM, THEN WE WOULD ADHERE TO THAT TOO AND NOT PUT ONE, BUT WE WANTED TO OFFER THAT FLOWERING TREE, UM, BACK IN THAT AREA.
AND THE YELLOWWOOD WAS SELECTED.
UM, YOU CAN GET THE NATIVE, WHICH IS MORE OF A WHITE-ISH YELLOW FLOWER.
UM, OR THERE IS, UM, A CULTIVATION OF IT WITH PINK FLOWERS THAT OD AND R HAD RECOMMENDED.
I THINK RICH HAD OPINION ON THE PINK VERSION, BUT I ALSO JUST WANTED TO, UM, PICK YOUR BRAIN TOO ON US GOING TO THOSE NEIGHBORS AND SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GONNA WANNA ACTUALLY PUT IT IN YOUR, YOUR TREE LAWN, UM, IF YOU WANT ONE.
I THINK THAT'S A, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE, ESPECIALLY GIVING THEM THE OPTION.
I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAD HAD WHEN WE FIRST SAW THAT IT WAS, OH, WE'RE JUST GONNA PUT THESE IN, BUT GIVING THEM THE OPTION IS A GOOD IDEA.
DO YOU THINK, SO YOU ARE, YOU'RE CLOSE TO THE COMMUNITY HERE.
DO WE DO LIKE AN OPT OUT? HEY, YOU'RE GETTING A TREE UNLESS YOU CHECK THIS BOX OR OPT IN, YOU'RE ONLY GETTING A TREE IF YOU CHECK THIS BOX.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE AN OPT-IN.
YOU DON'T WANNA BE YEAH, IF YOU LOSE THE POSTCARD, YOU DON'T WANNA BE SURPRISED THAT THERE'S A TREE IN YOUR YARD THE NEXT DAY.
AND WE CAN DO A LITTLE MORE THAN LIKE THE POSTCARD.
LIKE I THINK THAT'S ONLY SO MANY HOMES.
UM, ESPECIALLY IF YOU GUYS ARE AMENABLE TO VOLUNTEERING.
WE COULD DOOR KNOCK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM, DID YOU GET OUR POSTCARD? UH, WE CAN MAKE PHONE CALLS FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT WE DO HAVE CONTACT WITH, UM, FROM OUR RECREATION PROGRAMMING DATABASE, THAT SORT OF THING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS? SO BACK TO THE VOLUNTEERS FOR THE YMCA TRUNK OR TREAT
WHAT DAY IS THAT? SUNDAY? OCTOBER 25TH HAUNTED.
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YEAH, THAT MIGHT BE THE HAUNTED TOURNAMENT.SO I KNOW WHERE I'M, WHERE I'M GONNA BE AT.
COME HELP US PUT UP THE TENT AND THEN HONESTLY, YOU CAN WANDER YOU IF YOU WANT TO, BUT I LIKE HANDING OUT CANDY TO THE KIDS.
ALRIGHT, ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL BUSINESS OR ANNOUNCEMENTS? I'LL GIVE YOU JUST ONE MORE BECAUSE I FORGOT IT.
UH, THE HOLIDAY POSTCARD IS COMING OUT.
YOU SHOULD SEE THAT HITTING HOMES, UH, MOST LIKELY NEXT WEEK.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE TOLD IT WILL HIT HOMES, UH, BEFORE THE 10TH, WHICH IS OUR FIRST, UM, ACTIVITY FOR THE FALL WITH OUR MONSTER MARKET AND 5K DOWN AT CLOUD PARK.
SO YOU'LL BE GETTING AGAIN, THAT POSTCARD THAT COMES TO YOU TELLING YOU ABOUT FALL AND WINTER PROGRAMMING.
AND DID EVERYONE HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING? ANYONE LIKE TO MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION TO APPROVE.
AND THEN THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE OCTOBER 15TH AT SIX 30.
AND WITH THAT WE'LL ADJOURN OCTOBER 13TH? YES.
OH, I'M SORRY IT WASN'T UPDATED ON THIS AGENDA.