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CAPTIONER IS PRESENT. CAPTIONER IS PRESENT.

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THE EVENT WILL BEGIN SOON. CAPTIONER IS PRESENT.

CAPTIONER IS PRESENT. THE EVENT WILL BEGIN SOON.

CAPTIONER IS PRESENT. CAPTIONER IS PRESENT.

GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, WELCOME TO HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION, SEPTEMBER EIGHTH, 2026, MEETING STARTED AT 6:01 P.M. THE MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER ROLL CALL PLEASE?

[2. Approval Of Minutes]

>> MR. CAMPBELL IS NOT HERE THIS EVENING.

NEXT WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 2, APPROVAL OF MINUTES, THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST THIRD OF 2026, MINUTES ADMINISTRATED EVERYBODY? ANY CORRECTIONS? PLEASE LET US KNOW.

[ City Manager Report]

SEEING NONE OF THOSE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

NEXT IS ITEM THREE, OUR WORK SESSION TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION, WE WILL GET STARTED WITH ITEM THREE, JOHN?

>> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL HOW ARE YOU?

>> GOOD TO SEE. >> COUPLE THINGS OF NOTE, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF EVENTS COMING UP, WE WANT TO MAKE THE CITIZENS AWARE, FIRST OF ALL, PARKS AND REC DID A GOOD JOB PUTTING THE MEETING FOR SEPTEMBER, TONIGHT AS THE LAST FOOD TRUCK TASTING TUESDAY DOWN AT CLUB PARK, IS GOING ON UNTIL 8:00.

THEY STARTED THE WALKING CHALLENGE FOR THE WHOLE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER, INFORMATION IS ON THE PARKS AND REC SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES. WE HAVE OUR VETERAN FOOTBALL GAME ON SEPTEMBER FOURTH, ON THE 19TH, YOUTH FISHING CLASS COMING UP AND SEPTEMBER 25TH -- MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL IS COMING UP SATURDAY, I HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE HERE FOR THAT TO SHOW EVERYBODY WHEN WE GET THERE, THAT'LL BE SATURDAY.

WEDNESDAY, THE NINTH, YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER BLOOD DRIVE, HOPEFULLY DAWN IS SIGNED UP AND READY TO GO. IS PART OF OUR CONTINUED EFFORT TO TEAM UP WITH COMMUNITY BLOOD CENTER, AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE BLOOD TO PATIENTS WHO NEED IT IN THE COMMUNITY, EMS SYSTEM. AGAIN IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE, WE ARE ONE OF THE HANDFUL OF ORGANIZATIONS IN THE ENTIRE STATE DOING THIS CURRENTLY. THIS IS SOMETHING WE STARTED, STARTED THAT PROGRAM, THIS BLOOD DRIVE I PUT THIS UP HERE SO YOU HAVE THE QR CODE IF YOU'RE WATCHING THIS, THIS INFORMATION IS ALSO STILL ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES AS WELL.

THE COMMUNITY GARAGE SALE IS THIS COMING WEEKEND, SARAH TOOK ALL OF THE PARTICIPANTS INFORMATION UP UNTIL YESTERDAY, TOMORROW AT 8:00 A.M. SHE WILL PUT A DIGITAL LIST TOGETHER, IT'LL BE ON THE WEBSITE AND ALSO A MAP TWO AND WE WILL HAVE SOME HARD COPIES HERE FOR THOSE WHO STILL WANT THE HARD COPIES AS WELL. MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL IS THIS SATURDAY, IT WILL BE RUNNING FROM 11:00 A.M. UNTIL 6:00 P.M., IF YOU HAVE NEVER COME, A LOT OF VISITORS, A LOT OF GOOD ENTERTAINMENT. THIS SATURDAY FROM 11:00 A.M.

UNTIL 6:00 P.M. AT THE EICHELBERGER.

ALSO, PARKS AND REC IS DOING A MONSTER MARKET, OCTOBER TENTH, CLOUD PARK, THERE'LL BE A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON.

WE WILL HAVE THE FUN RUN AND WALK PACK MARKET SET UP, LOOKING FOR VENDORS CURRENTLY. THERE WILL ALSO BE A MOVIE TOWARDS THE END, RUNNING FROM 10:00 A.M. UNTIL 7:00 P.M. THAT DAY, SATURDAY TENTH AT CLOUD PARK.

MORE INFORMATION ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES.

JASON CONTINUES TO JUST DO AN AMAZING JOB WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES, JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS HERE FROM WHERE WE ARE VERSUS PREVIOUS YEARS. HIS BUSINESS RETENTION EXPANSION VISITS YEAR TO DATE HE HAS MADE 86 VISITS TO BUSINESSES HERE CURRENTLY, ALL OF 2025, WE ARE ON TRACK TO BREAK THAT THIS YEAR. TOTAL NEW BUSINESSES OPENED IN 2015, WE HAVE 24 NEW BUSINESSES IN COMPARISON TO LAST YEAR, THE WHOLE YEAR OF 2025 WE HAVE 36. I HIGHLIGHTED ALSO, THE DEVELOPMENT GRANT PROGRAM IS OPEN.

APPLICATIONS WILL BE GOING UNTIL OCTOBER 16TH.

THE APPLICATIONS IS ON OUR PROBABILITY CALCULUS 15000 AVAILABLE ACROSS FIVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS, THIS SLIDE SHOWS BETTER, WE HAVE GRANTS PAIRED UP WITH OTHER COUNTIES, STATE ECONOMIC GRANTS AS WELL. BETTER KNOWN BUSINESSES, SMALL BUSINESSES, NONPROFITS AND MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES.

THAT WILL TAKE YOU TO THE WEBSITE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE REACH OUT TO JASON.

AND I WILL TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU SO.

>> YES THANK YOU. ON ANOTHER NOTE, I THOUGHT THE [UNCLEAR] ARE ALSO OPEN NOW, DO WE HAVE PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES

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LOOKING AT THAT? >> WE REACHED OUT TO A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TALKED TO US IN THE PAST ABOUT APPLYING FOR -- RIGHT NOW THEY ARE CONSIDERING IT.

THERE IS ONE THAT WE KNOW OF, BUT THEY WILL PROBABLY BE WAITING UNTIL THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2027.

>> OKAY THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

[ Issuance Of Notes/Bonds - Refunding/New      *  Refunding - Fire Station 25 - $1,600,000]

OKAY THANK YOU JOHN. NEXT WE WILL GO TO ITEM 3B, THE ISSUANCE OF NOTES AND BONDS AND REFUNDING AND ALSO NEW.

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

WE ARE COMING TO YOU TONIGHT TO ISSUE SOME LONG TERM DEBT OF WHICH I BEEN PROMISING WE WOULD REFER TO THE LAST FEW YEARS, THE TIMING IS NOW RIGHT TO DO THAT. SO THERE IS A LOT OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT RELATED TO THAT.

ONCE AGAIN I HAVE INVITED OUR MUNICIPAL ADVISOR TO MAKE A BRIEF PRESENTATION TO COME A BRIEF PRESENTATION ABOUT THIS VERY IMPORTANT -- I DO NOT KNOW WHY MY MICROPHONE IS CUTTING OUT -- WE ALSO HAVE AN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT MR. CHRISTOPHER FRANZMAN, OUR BOND COUNSEL, HE IS THE ONE THAT WRITES ALL OF THE LEGISLATION THAT COMES BEFORE YOU.

AND SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THAT, HE IS AVAILABLE

AS WELL TONIGHT. >> THANK YOU JIM.

I TH THANK YOU BOTH TO OUR GUESS THIS EVENING TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS, GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS. >> GOOD EVENING.

THIS IS FROM A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS WALK THROUGH, GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE INTEREST RATES ARE AT TODAY. AS WE ARE GEARING UP, A LOT OF WORK IS BEING DONE. WITH PERMITS AND FINANCING.

IF WE GO BACK WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT CROCODILES A LOT OF CHAOS AROUND THE ISSUE AROUND [UNCLEAR] STARTING TO HEAT UP.

WE HAVE NOTES FOR MORE TIME. ACTUALLY LOOKING BACK I GUESS IT WAS A BLESSING IF YOU WILL BECAUSE THE RAISE HAPPENED AT THE SAME TIME WE WERE SUPPOSED TO ISSUE THE BONDS OF A WE WERE SHORT. AS WE ALWAYS DO WE WILL WALK THROUGH A COUPLE SLIDES, FIRST A SNAPSHOT OF WHERE WE STAND TODAY. THIS IS THE ONE YOU HAVE SEEN BEFORE, THIS IS THE LONG TERM TAX EXEMPT INTEREST RATE CHART ON PAGE -- SHOULD BE PAGE 3 BUT ANYHOW.

AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE SPICED BACK UP OUT OF 2000.

THIS WOULD BE THE LONGER TERM RATE THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT WHEN IT COMES TO ISSUING FIXED RATE AND LONG-TERM BONDS.

THIS IS THE 20 YEAR BOND INDEX. AGAIN LEVELING OFF, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, NOTABLE INCREASES, I THINK WITH THE MARKETPLACE AND THE EXPERTS REALLY FEEL LIKE INFLATION MADE AN ISSUE, COULD BE ONE OR MAYBE TWO INCREASES IN THE FUTURE.

THIS CHART YOU HAVE SEEN BEFORE AS WELL, THIS IS THE YIELD CURVE IN TERMS OF BOND ISSUES. THE FAR LEFT WHICH IS THE ONE YEAR RATE, GOING TO THE FAR RIGHT WHICH IS THE 30-YEAR BOND RATE. THIS IS PROBABLY THE FLATTEST WE HAVE SEEN THE CURVE IN QUITE SOME TIME.

IF YOU REMEMBER THE GREY AREA, IT IS THE HIGHEST AND THE LOWEST IT HAS BEEN GOING BACK TO THE EARLY 2000.

SO AGAIN, THINGS ARE SEEMINGLY NORMAL NOW.

I THINK A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN WE STARTED A LOT OF PROJECTS, THERE WERE INFLATIONARY ISSUES, BUT IT REALLY FLATTENED OUT NOW WHICH WAS GOOD LONG TERM.

AND AGAIN AS WE DO THESE SEVERAL BOND ISSUES, FIXED RATE BONDS FROM THE TERM OF THE ISSUE CUT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REFINANCE DOWN THE ROAD IF INTEREST RATES MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT.

OR PAYING DOWN ON IT WITH EXCESS CASH.

ANOTHER CHART FOR YOU, ALL THE FINANCINGS IN THE PAST, SHORT TERM INDEX. THIS IS THE BENCHMARK FOR THE INDEX, YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THE PERIOD OF TIME IN THE EARLY 2000 WHEN IT SPIKED ALL THE WAY UP TO HIGH INTEREST RATES WE HAVEN'T SEEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME, NOW IT'S COMING BACK DOWN.

THIS IS [UNCLEAR] AS WE TRANSITION OUT OF THAT TO FIX

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INTEREST RATES AND FIXED FINANCINGS IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

THIS IS THE ONE YEAR INDEX. NOT A WHOLE LOT HAPPENING THIS YEAR, WE WILL BE MOVING OUT OF THIS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE ISSUE, WE HAVE TO ISSUE A SHORT TERM FINANCING AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT NEXT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MARKET?

>> JUST [UNCLEAR] I KNOW WE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THOSE BIG STEEP

DROPS, $6 MILLION? >> WATER FINANCING WE SAVED $6 MILLION, THESE TWO GENTLEMEN WERE A BIG HELP AT THAT TIME.

>> THAT WAS GOOD. I THINK JUST KNOWING THAT WE ARE, FROM THE PUBLIC'S PERSPECTIVE THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW THAT WE HAVE LOTS OF EYES ON THE MARKET AND WHAT IS HAPPENING AND CERTAINLY YOU GUYS HAVE OUR BEST INTEREST AT HEART.

AGAIN KEEPING AN EYE ON THESE THINGS, KNOWING WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE MONEY LIKE WE HAVE DONE IN

THE PAST. >> AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE PRICING OF THE BONDS, THE FIRST CALL TO ACTION FOR REFINANCE IS 5-17 YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN GETTING AWAY WITH SHORTER CALL OPTIONS.

SOMETIMES IF YOU PUSH IT SOONER, YOU'LL GET A HIGHER INTEREST RATE. YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

A MONTH AGO IT WAS A FIVE YEAR CALL.

AS WE LOOK AT THIS WE COULD GET CLOSER TO THE MARKET, WE STILL HAVE A BETTER FEEL FOR THAT. GENERALLY IN A SEVEN YEAR CALL RANGE. SO WHAT YOU WILL HAVE BEFORE YOU IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS IS CONVERSION, FIVE PIECES OF LEGISLATION CONSIDER -- ONE WILL STAY UNTIL THE END, AWARDED TO THE MUSIC CENTER, IN THE ISSUE OF $8,990,000.

THE OTHER ONE STARTING BACK FROM THE TOP, $61 MILLION IN VARIOUS PURPOSE BONDS. SAME THING AS IN THE PAST, TO SHOW YOU THIS INDIVIDUALLY HOW THEY ARE BEING PAID FOR.

WE ARE NOW CONVERTING AWAY, IF YOU REMEMBER WE DID INCOME TAX REVENUE FOR THE WATER SYSTEM, WE HAD ALL OF THAT IN THE WATER SYSTEM REVENUE BONDS. SO THEN WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY THREE PIECES OF DEVELOPMENT TYPE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE SPECIAL OBLIGATION, NON-TAX REVENUE BONDS, 2026 ISSUE, 8.2 MILLION.

THEN THE LAST ONE IS FOR THE $2.3 MILLION FOR THE 2026B.

I HAVE A CHEAT SHEET ON THIS. HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE THIS CLEARLY ON YOUR MONITORS UP THERE.

AGAIN, THIS HAS REALLY NOT CHANGED COMPARED TO WHAT WE DID BACK THEN. AS YOU LOOK AT EACH ONE OF THESE, WHAT IS IDENTIFIED AS THE RETAINMENT SOURCE.

I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT LENGTH AT THE LAST MEETING, WE ARE ISSUING GEO BONDS, THIS IS THE FIRST PAGE, GEO BOND ISSUES.

BUT INDIVIDUALLY, AS WE SELL ONE BOND FOR $57 MILLION, $60 MILLION, WE WILL IDENTIFY EACH ONE IN THERE FOR PAYMENT AND MODERNIZATION SCHEDULE. THE SOURCE IS IN THE FAR RIGHT WILL HELP PAY FOR THAT. HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THESE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CAN I PUT THIS REALLY HASN'T CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME. THERE IS A SLIGHT INCREASE IN TERMS OF SOME NEW MONEY, ROUGHLY $2.3 MILLION, $820,000, AND THEN ALSO AN ADDITION OF 1.5 MILLION. ANY QUESTIONS RELATIVE TO THE

FIRST PAGE HERE? >> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BUT I THINK IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT, THERE IS SOME NEW DEBT IN HERE BUT THOSE ARE FOR WHEN WE GOT REMODELING DONE. AREAS WHERE WE CAN IDENTIFY SPECIFIC [UNCLEAR]. EVERY TIME THAT WE LOOK AT THIS, IT'S IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE DO AND IT'S IMPORTANT WE REALIZE, KIND OF THE GOAL FOR THIS COUNCIL HAS ALWAYS BEEN, WE

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DON'T TAKE ON DEBT WE CANNOT IDENTIFY THE SOURCE TO PAY FOR.

AND I THINK THAT IS STILL THE CASE TODAY IT IS WHAT IT HAS BEEN, AND I JUST WANT TO CONVENE KIND OF, AND OUR STAFF KNOWING ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DO AND THE PROJECTS WE HAVE AND THE THINGS GOING ON IN THE CITY, YOU GUYS ALWAYS MAKE SURE ANY KIND OF REQUEST, MONEY, ANYTHING COMING TO US, ALL LARGER THINGS LIKE THIS WE ALWAYS IDENTIFY WAYS TO PAY.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT, AND COUNCIL IS APPRECIATIVE OF THAT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GETTING OURSELVES IN THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY SOMETHING BACK.

THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT NOTE TO MAKE FOR US, AND FOR EVERYBODY WATCHING AND ANYBODY SITTING HERE.

THESE NUMBERS MAY SEEM BIG, AS THIS LEGISLATION HAPPENS WE WILL BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC AREAS, HOW TO PAY THESE BONDS BACK. THAT IS ALL EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

THAT SHOULD GIVE US CONFIDENCE THAT WE ARE MAKING GOOD DECISIONS AND WE ARE DOING THINGS IN THE RIGHT WAY THAT WILL MAXIMIZE FOR THE TAXPAYER WHO OWNS ALL THE THINGS

[UNCLEAR] >> THANK YOU MAY APPEAR CHRIS CAN YOU HELP ME -- ON OUR AGENDA, THE FOURTH ONE DOWN, REFUNDING THE WATER REVENUE BONDS, IT IS LEFT EMPTY FOR THE BALANCE. WAS THAT INTENTIONAL OR SO

CALCULATING? >> ISSUE TO BE $30 MILLION.

>> THANK YOU. >> I CAN COMMENT ON THAT ANDI.

I THINK CHRIS WE HAVE A BETTER EXPLANATION OF THIS.

HE TOLD ME THERE'S ONE PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT DID NOT HAVE DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH IT BUT IT WAS SETTING UP THE CITY TO ISSUE FUTURE WATER REVENUE BONDS, AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE BEEN IN THE MIDDLE OF A FIVE YEAR PROJECT WORKING ON WATER INFRASTRUCTURE. AND SO RIGHT NOW I THINK WE ARE THREE YEARS INTO THAT AND THERE IS NEW MONEY PLANNED IN THIS FINANCING TO GET US THROUGH 2027.

WE DON'T WANT TO GO OUT FURTHER THAN THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ARBITRAGE ISSUE WE HAVE EARN SO MUCH MONEY BEFORE WE SPEND IT ON A PROJECT. THAT LEGISLATION WILL ALLOW US TO NOT ONLY ISSUE WATER REVENUE BONDS NOW BUT FOR THE FUTURE, THE NEXT TIME WE COME BACK TO COUNCIL WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT LEGISLATION. IS THAT A GOOD EXPLANATION CHRIS? [LAUGHTER]

>> WHAT THE CITY HAS ACCUSTOMED TO THE GENERAL OBLIGATION IS HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THE PASSAGE OF A BOND ORDER.

SUCH AS THE ONES IN THE PACKET RIGHT NOW.

A REVENUE OBLIGATION IS [UNCLEAR] THE REVENUE OBLIGATION IS SOLELY PAID FROM THE NET REVENUE FROM THE WATER SYSTEM REVENUE, UNLESS YOU'RE OPERATING EXPENSES, THAT'S WHAT YOU PLEDGE TO THE BOND. SO THE BOND HOLDERS CALCULATE THE SOURCE OF REPAYMENT IS FAR MORE LIMITED UNDER A REVENUE BOND THAN A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND THEY HAVE HIGH EXPECTATIONS ABOUT THE SECURITY AND SOURCE OF REPAYMENT.

SO IN YOUR PACKET ARE TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION, ONE IS A GENERAL ORDINANCE, ONE IS A SERIES BOND ORDINANCE.

IT AUTHORIZES THE ISSUANCE OF WATER REVENUE BONDS TODAY AND INTO THE FUTURE. THE SERIES OF BOND ORDINANCE AUTHORIZES THE SPECIFIC 2026 BONDS THAT FOR THE $30 MILLION WILL BE NOTED. IF WE COME BACK IN A COUPLE OF YEARS AND WE WANT TO ISSUE ANOTHER $5 MILLION WATER REVENUE BOND, WE WOULD NOT PASS THE SECOND GENERAL BOND ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT HAS ALREADY BEEN PASSED, THE STRUCTURE IS ESTABLISHED. WE WOULD PASS THE 2028 SERIES BOND ORDINANCE. SO THAT IS THE DISTINCTION.

IT IS VERY CLOSE. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

I JUST WAS CURIOUS. >> THE SERIES OF BOND ISSUED --

>> THE GENERAL BOND IS NOT -- THE GENERAL BOND ORDINANCE IS NOT AUTHORIZED IN A SPECIFIC AMOUNT, IT'S JUST WE'RE GOING TO SET UP THE STRUCTURE, THE REVENUE SYSTEM, CREATE A SPECIFIC WATER DEDICATED FUNDS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE MONEY IN THE SYSTEM SO WE CAN BE PROPERLY PAYING TO THE BOND HOLDERS AND WE WILL AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS FROM TIME TO TIME AS FURTHER APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

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>> THANK YOU. THE PROCESS THAT WE ARE IN FOR THIS INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATE, THE PLAINTIFF HAS TO GO -- I JUST KNOWING THE SCALE OF THE PROJECT OVERALL, KNOWING WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO NEXT, KNOWING THERE IS MONEY WRAPPED UP IN THE DESIGN PHASE AND ENGINEERING PHASE AND HOW FAR THESE THINGS CAN GO, THEN THE BIDDING, ALL THAT HAS TO BE PLANNED OUT WITHIN THE TIME FRAME OF THESE BONDS ISSUED.

IT IS CERTAINLY A BIG PIECE THAT HAS TO ALL WORK TOGETHER TO CONTINUE THIS FINANCING. BUT CERTAINLY ON THE WATER PERSPECTIVE, I THINK ALL OF US UP HERE KNOW THAT THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE AND THE WAY THAT WE HAVE DECIDED TO FINANCE THESE INFRASTRUCTURE VERSUS JUST TAKING X AMOUNT OF DOLLAR AMOUNTS PER YEAR AND PUTTING THEM TOGETHER, WE ARE LOOKING TO FIX THE WATER PROBLEM, IT HAS PAID GREAT DIVIDENDS AND WE HAVE DONE GOOD WORK FIXING INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> JUST ONE MORE POINT, YOU MAY NOTICE GOING BACKWARDS YOU SEE SOME OF THE AUTHORIZING AMOUNTS, FOR EXAMPLE THE GEO ISSUE IS 60 MILLION TO 50, YOU WILL SEE THE OLDER ONE HERE IS $30 MILLION.

-- $6,250,000 -- THE REASON WHY THERE IS NO AUTHORIZED, WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED, IS TO GIVE US THE MOST FLEXIBILITY TO ISSUE THE BONDS IN THE MARKETPLACE. THIS IS VERY COMMON TO HAVE THAT CUSHION. WHAT IT DOES IS IT GIVES US THE ABILITY, TYPICALLY BONDS ARE NEVER SOLD AT A PAR WHAT THEY CALL, WHEN IT EQUALS TO THE MARKET.

THEY ARE SOLD AT A PREMIUM OR DISCOUNTED.

SOMETIMES THE BUYER MAY COME AND SAY, HEY, I WILL GIVE YOU A BETTER INTEREST RATE IF YOU GIVE A DISCOUNT BONDS, WE WILL ISSUE MORE IN PART TO GET THE DISCOUNT STRUCTURE.

YOU KIND OF GET A LOWER RATE. THE OTHER RESULT IS WE WORK WITH THE UNDERWRITING THE TEAM TO SEE WHAT WORKS BEST FOR THE CITY AND GETS THE LOWEST COST TO FUND POSSIBLE.

THIS IS GENERALLY ALWAYS THE REASON WHY WE HAVE A BOND STRUCTURE, ON A BOND STRUCTURE YOU WILL SEE MORE AUTHORIZED.

SAME THING FOR THE INTEREST RATES.

I THINK THE INTEREST RATE IN THE, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE. I CAN SAY WITH 95% CONFIDENCE WE

CAN [UNCLEAR]. >> THINK YOU APPRECIATE THAT.

>> SO LET ME JUMP TO THE REST OF THIS CAN I GO TO THE NEXT PAGE IN THE PRESENTATION IS RELATED TO THE WATER.

AS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, THE LEGISLATION IS FOR $30 MILLION, WE WILL GET A TOTAL OF $27,675,000.

THERE ARE SOME NEW WATER MAINS THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED, SOME PROJECTS STILL GOING OUT TO BE CONSTRUCTED.

ABOUT $3,590,000. THEN DOWN BELOW, THE TAX REVENUE, TAX REVENUE BONDS, WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEING 7,028,000, AND THEN SERVICE FEE IS OVER $2 MILLION.

AGAIN WE HAVE THAT ONE KNOWN ISSUE WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH SEPARATELY. THAT IS BEING KEPT AWAY FROM

THIS AT THIS PRESENT POINT. >> ANDY THE ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE NOTE OF ON THIS SHEET HE IS TALKING ABOUT HERE AT THE VERY BOTTOM, YOU WILL NOTICE WE ARE REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF DEBT THAT WAS ISSUED BACK IN JUNE BECAUSE WE HAD A SALE OF A PROPERTY ON EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD, A PROPERTY THE CITY BROUGHT UP PREVIOUSLY.

AS WE TRIED TO SELL IT TO DEVELOPERS, WHETHER IT BE FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE ARE PAYING DOWN $537,300 ON THAT PREVIOUSLY ISSUED DEBT.

EMILY CONTINUED IT AS A REGULAR CITY POLICY IF WE ARE SELLING A PROPERTY, THAT IS PAYING DOWN THE DEBT.

>> APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION. >> THAT IS MY NEXT LAST SLIDE

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UNTIL WE GET TO THE DISCLOSURES WHICH ARE REALLY FUN TO READ.

[LAUGHTER] >> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS? >> JIM WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS THE PROCESS MOVING FORWARD AS FAR AS THE 14 PIECES OF LEGISLATION AND

THE NUMBER OF READINGS? >> YES, I MEAN I CAN GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE INDIVIDUALLY BUT AS ANDY MENTIONED, AN AGGREGATE -- AND I KNOW THERE WERE TWO PIECES THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED. I GUESS LEGISLATION THAT WAS PUT THROUGH IN THE PACKAGE WAS DIFFERENT DOLLAR AMOUNT THAN IT ACTUALLY IS BECAUSE WE HAVE IDENTIFIED KIND OF AT THE LAST MINUTE THAT THE ADDITIONAL 820,000 THAT WAS TO BE ON THE CITY HALL RENOVATIONS WAS EARLY ON ON THE GOVERNANCE CENTER.

IT IS OBVIOUSLY FINISHED, NO NEED FOR NEW MONEY ON THAT.

THIS WAS JUST TO GET US THROUGH THE FINAL REST OF THE PROJECT.

I WILL HAVE THAT CORRECT LEGISLATION FOR TONY, AND HE WILL HAVE THAT IN YOUR PACKET FOR MONDAY.

SO WHAT I HAVE ASKED ANDY AND HIS STAFF AS WELL AS CHRIS IS TO PUT ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS INTO 14 DIFFERENT BUCKETS IF YOU HAVE CACTUS 14 DIFFERENT PIECES OF LEGISLATION FOR EACH PROJECT WE HAVE DONE. SO WHAT WE DO, AND JANELLE AND I MET THIS AFTERNOON WITH THE MANAGEMENT TEAM TO SIT DOWN, IDENTIFY THE REVENUE SOURCES THAT WILL PAY FOR THIS LIKE TIP FUNDS OR WATER REVENUES AND SO FORTH, WE DETERMINED HOW MUCH PERCENTAGE WOULD COME OUT OF EACH INDIVIDUAL FUND.

WE ARE WORKING ON THIS EVEN BEFORE WE GET THOSE FINAL NUMBERS AND WE WON'T HAVE FINAL NUMBERS UNTIL NOVEMBER, MAYBE OCTOBER, WHEN IT GOES TO MARKET AND SELLS.

WE WANT TO HAVE THAT READY TO PUT INTO THE 2027 BUDGET.

BUT ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS ARE FOR OUR PURPOSES INTERNALLY, THE FACT THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE LIKE FOR RENOVATIONS CONNECT THE TWO STATIONS, ARE PAID OUT OF THE FIRE CAPITAL BUDGET, THE WATER ITEMS ARE PAID OUT OF THE WATER BUDGET, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE 14 DIFFERENT PIECES OF LEGISLATION COMING TO COUNCIL. I'M GLAD ANDY POINTED OUT WE ARE ASKING FOR THE MAXIMUM DOLLAR AMOUNT, IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THE FINAL... FINANCING WILL BE LOWER THAN THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT AS WELL AS PROBABLY LOWER THE INTEREST RATES. WE ALWAYS SAY, WHEN CHRIS PUTS TOGETHER THE LEGISLATION HE SENDS TO US, HE USUALLY PUTS A VERY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE ON THE INTEREST RATE, KNOWING -- I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY TIME WHERE HE HAS GIVEN US AN INTEREST RATE THAT ENDED UP GOING TO MARKET BEING HIGHER THAN THAT OF, IT'S ALWAYS LOWER PAID FROM.

I GUESS IN CONCLUSION WHAT I ASKED FROM THESE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS THAT I BROUGHT UP IS WE CAN HAVE TWO READINGS ON THIS, IT WOULD JUST NEED TO PASS AT THE SECOND MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, 28TH, SO THAT WAY IT WOULD BE A 30 DAY CLAUSE ON IT.

WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S READY TO GO BEFORE THE PRICING I BELIEVE IS AT THE END OF O OF OCTOBER.

IT JUST NEEDS ONE READING TO THIS COMING MONDAY AND A SECOND

READING IN TWO WEEKS. >> AND EMERGENCIES, HOW THEY

WILL BE AFFECTED IMMEDIATELY. >> THAT'S RIGHT, AND EMERG

EMERGENCIES. >> IF WE GIVE THEM THE TWO READINGS BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER DO THEY HAVE TO BE DONE BY

EMERGENCY, OR -- >> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION FOR

MR. FOXMAN. >> WHEN IS THE SECOND MEETING IN SEPTEMBER? SEPTEMBER 28TH.

>> I THINK WE WOULD PREFER -- THE PRICING WILL START RIGHT AROUND THAT MEETING. WE ABSOLUTELY NEED THE LEGISLATION BEFORE IT GETS TO MARKET.

IT IS POSSIBLE IT WOULD BE MUCH PREFERRED TO PASS THIS AT THE

SECOND READING. >> AND THEN GOOD TO GO.

OKAY. THAT IS HOW IT IS CURRENTLY

WRITTEN. >> THANK YOU.

OKAY, SECOND READING, BECAUSE THEY ARE WRITTEN DOWN AS EMERGENCIES. OKAY.

SO DO WE STILL NEED TO -- THE NO ISSUANCE, SHOULD WE GO OVER THAT

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NOW OR MOVE ON -- IS THERE ANOTHER PIECE ON HERE?

>> ONE OF THE 14 ITEMS IS AN ISSUANCE RELATED TO THE CURRENT COST WE HAD FOR THE INTRO MUSIC CENTER, THAT'LL BE FINANCED BY THE NEW COMMUNITY AUTHORITY, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE NCA.

WHAT IS LIKELY TO HAPPEN IS THEY WON'T BE READY TO ISSUE THAT FINANCING UNTIL AFTER THESE NOTES, THESE NOTES ARE COMING DUE BECAUSE THEY WERE ISSUED IN JUNE, THESE NOTES ARE COMING DUE AROUND NOVEMBER 25TH OR 26TH, AND THE NCA FINANCING WON'T BE READY TO GO UNTIL MAYBE DECEMBER, JANUARY OR SOMETIME IN THAT TIME FRAME. THESE NOTES WILL BE ISSUED FOR A

VERY SHORT TIME. >> OKAY THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ISSUANCE OF THESE NOTES AND BONDS? OKAY, ANY OBJECTIONS? LET'S MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL CLEAR, WE HAVE 14 PIECES OF LEGISLATION ON MONDAY'S MEETING, END SCHEDULED FOR SECOND READING BUT THEY ARE ALSO SCHEDULED AFTER EMERGENCY. ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY, WE WILL SEE YOU THEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[ Financial Transparency Engagement Presentation]

NEXT UP, LISTED AS ITEM B BUT IT SHOULD BE C, IS A FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY ENGAGEMENT PRESENTATION FROM GOOD TO SEE YOU MIKE NICE TO SEE YOU ALL. TONIGHT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THE FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY UPDATE, AS PART OF THAT WE WILL DISCUSS THE TRANSPARENCY OF OUR FINANCES IN THIS REPORT.

THERE ARE SEVERAL IMPORTANT REASONS WHY FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY MATTERS, OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE TO KNOW HOW THEIR TAXPAYER, TAX DOLLARS AND PUBLIC FUNDS ARE BEING USED.

THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT WE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO NOT ALIENATE PUBLIC RESOURCES, BUT ALSO TO EXPLAIN PUBLIC RESOURCES, HOW THEY ARE BEING USED.

TRANSPARENCY ALSO PROMOTES ACCOUNTABILITY.

IT GIVES ELECTED OFFICIALS, RESIDENTS AND OTHER COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE HOW THE FINANCIAL DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE I CAN UNDERSTAND THE INFORMATION BEHIND THOSE DECISIONS. ANOTHER IMPORTANT PIECE IS DEMONSTRATING STEWARDSHIP. THE CITY'S FINANCIAL DECISIONS ARE NOT JUST ABOUT TODAY. THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION ALSO HELPS US SET PRIORITIES AND SEE HOW THE CITY WILL MOVE FORWARD.

THIS CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE CONFIDENCE IN GOVERNMENT.

PROVIDING INFORMATION IN AN OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE WAY TO HELP RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND WHERE THEIR MONEY IS GOING AND WHY DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE, ULTIMATELY THOUGH, TRANSPARENCY DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN EVERYBODY WILL AGREE WITH HIS FINANCIAL DECISIONS, BUT IT DOES MEAN THAT RESIDENTS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED FOR THOSE DECISIONS.

SO HUBER HEIGHTS HAS BEEN STRIVING TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY, PART OF THAT TRANSPARENCY WAS IN OCTOB OCTOBER OF 2025, APPROVING A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT WITH A COMPANY, PROVIDING A FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY WEBSITE.

THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT STEP MOVING TOWARDS A MODERN AND UNIFORM ALIGNMENT PRESENTING FINANCIAL INFORMATION TO OUR COMMUNITY. RATHER THAN RELYING SOLELY ON TRADITIONAL FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS, THE GOAL WAS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION IN A FORMAT THAT RESIDENTS CAN EASILY NAVIGATE AND UNDERSTAND. THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT CHANGE, IN AN ORGANIZATION DURING THIS PROCESS, WITH A COMPANY THAT EMERGED CALLED GRAVITY. GRAVITY WAS MORE FOCUSED ON BUDGETING AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

WE ARE MERGING THESE TWO COMPANIES, BROUGHT TO DIFFERENT ASPECTS TOGETHER. MEANING THE TECHNOLOGY AND PRODUCTS WE WERE USING SUPPORTED A BETTER FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY, AND WE WERE ABLE TO EVOLVE WITH THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WE ALREADY HAD. SO WHEN THEY MERGED IN JANUARY, WE HAD A SEPARATE AGREEMENT THAT COVERS THE FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY ALSO WITH THE COMPANY THAT COVERS OUR BUDGETING. WE ARE FINALIZING THIS ADMINISTRATION WITH THIS WEBSITE LOOKS LIKE.

SO OUR TRANSPARENCY USED TO LOOK, WE USED TO USE WHAT WAS

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CALLED AN OPEN CHECKBOOK, PART OF THE WEBSITE -- AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. SO THIS WAS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE WERE USING. OBVIOUSLY VERY OUTDATED IN FORMATTING, AND NOT ACCESSIBLY USER FRIENDLY.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT THE CITY AND WHAT OUR REVENUES WERE, WHAT EXPENSES WERE, BUT IT JUST HAS SORT OF AN OUTDATED LOOK. SO WHEN WE STARTED TO USE CLEARGOV, OUR TRANSPARENCY CORRIDOR, NOW LOOKS LIKE THIS.

THIS IS WHAT IT IS CURRENTLY ON THE HUBER HEIGHTS WEBSITE.

THIS WEBSITE GAVE US A LOT MORE OVERVIEW, A LOT MORE USER FRIENDLY. IT WAS ABLE TO GIVE A LOT MORE INFORMATION, DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE AREA, TALKING ABOUT POPULATION, COMPARING OURSELVES WITH OTHER AREAS IN THE COMMUNITY.

IT ALSO SHOWS REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES, SO WE WERE ABLE TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF OUR FUNDS, LOOKING AT DIFFERENT YEARS. THIS IS OUR CHECKBOOK, INFORMATION WAS GIVEN TO CLEARGOV AND THEY WERE ABLE TO UPDATE OUR WEBSITE, ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.

SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE UP THROUGH THE FIRST TWO QUARTERS OF THIS YEAR. SO NOW WE ARE LOOKING TO TRY TO IMPROVE BETTER FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY, WHEN CLEARGOV MERGED WITH THIS NEW COMPANY, THEY STARTED A NEW FINANCIAL ENGAGEMENT WEBSITE, THAT IS NOW POWERED BY AI.

SO IT IS ABLE TO SHOW US A LOT MORE INFORMATION, IT IS A LOT MORE USER FRIENDLY. IT ALSO GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE CAN ENTER QUESTIONS AND GET REALTIME INFORMATION.

SO THIS IS STILL IN PROGRESS. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE -- YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT STILL HAS SOME OF THE SAME ELEMENTS TO IT, IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT OUR BUDGET IS, WHAT OUR EXPENSES ARE.

IT DOES GIVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE CITY.

AND THIS IS THE AI SECTION. SO WE CAN ENTER INFORMATION IN HERE, IF YOU WANT TO ASK A QUESTION, YOU CAN TYPE IT IN.

WHAT DOES IT COST TO RUN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT? [LAUGHTER] SO IT IS THINKING.

IT WILL TALK ABOUT -- WE HAVE GIVEN THEM THE INFORMATION LOADED IN THERE. SO THE CURRENT YEAR, IT WON'T GO BACK TO PREVIOUS YEARS, BUT IT WILL SHOW WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE BUDGET CURRENTLY. SO NOW IT IS SAYING THAT 12.7 MILLION FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND IT BREAKS DOWN

WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE. >> AND THIS INFORMATION IS ALL BASED CURRENTLY WHAT WE FEED INTO THE SYSTEM? IT'S NOT SEARCHING? INTERNAL DOCUMENTATION OR

ANYTHING? >> THE AI WILL ONLY SEARCH

WITHIN THE DATA IT IS USING. >> TWO THINGS, NUMBER 1, ANYTIME YOU DO A SEARCH LIKE THAT AND YOU USE AI, IT IS VERIFYING INFORMATION. SO WHAT IS YOUR CONFIDENCE RATE FOR THE DATA GENERATED THROUGH AI?

>> IT IS 100%. WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS AI HALLUCINATIONS, THAT'S THE CO-PILOT'S, TRANTWO AND ALL THAT. THIS IS ONLY SEARCHING DATA.

IT DOES NOT GO OUT AND SEARCH ANYTHING ELSE.

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IF IT DOES NOT HAVE THE ANSWER, IT WILL NOT MAKE ANYTHING UP.

WHAT IT WILL DO IS JUST SEARCH THE DATA AND PROVIDE DATA INFORMATION. IF YOU TYPE IN SOMETHING, IT ALSO HAS A MICROPHONE SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SPEAK INTO IT AND TELL THE AI WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, THIS IS MORE A DATA LAKE WHICH MEANS IT'S ONLY SEARCHING THE DATA THAT IS AVAILABLE.

WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING IN CHAT OR IN COPILOT THAT SAYS VERIFY THE INFORMATION, IT IS GOING OUTSIDE.

>> HOW MUCH HISTORICAL DATA IS IN THE DATABASE?

>> WE CURRENTLY GO BACK -- WE CAN GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND I

CAN SHOW YOU THAT. >> SO HERE, YOU CAN GO BACK TO 2021, THAT SHOWS THE ACTUAL WHAT WE SPENT IN 2025.

AND THEN OF COURSE YOU CAN DO BREAKDOWNS ON DEBT SERVICE, YOU CAN SEE A BREAKDOWN ON ALL OF THESE.

IT ACTUALLY HAS DATA BACK TO I THINK 2013, BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT IT'S SHOWING ON THE WEBSITE. AND IF WE TURNED ALL THAT ON, IT'S A BIT TOO MUCH. AND IT WOULD KIND OF CLUTTER IT UP. WE KEEP IT DOWN TO FIVE YEARS.

SO IT IS ONLY PULLING FROM THE DATA WE ARE GIVING IT REPORTS FROM OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM, AND LOAD THAT INTO THIS PROGRAM.

IT IS ONLY SEARCHING THAT DATA. IT IS NOT GOING OUT TO THE WEB

TO SEARCH OTHER DATA. >> OKAY THAT'S GREAT.

SO IF I DID A QUERY ON -- HOW MUCH REVENUE FOR THE CITY

RECEIVE IN 2026. >> PUT THAT IN.

>> OKAY -- >> THAT RAISES THE QUESTION, WHEN THAT NUMBER COMES UP, WILL IT TELL US WHAT IT COMMITTED TO? JUST BECAUSE THE MONEY IS COMING IN DOESN'T MEAN IT IS THERE TO SPEND, WE MAY HAVE COMMITTED IT TO SOMETHING ELSE.

>> YOU CAN SEE 2026 NUMBERS, JANELLE JUST PUT IN REVENUE FOR TIFF. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE EACH OF THE BUDGETED ITEMS. THESE ARE NOT ACTUAL -- IT IS ONLY WORKING OF -- THE AI WILL ONLY LOOK AT 2026, WHAT WE HAVE FOR REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES. THE BUDGET YOU APPROVE, DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, THAT'S WHAT THE AI IS LOOKING AT.

TWO THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S, YOU CAN GO TO FURTHER SECTIONS AND LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWNS. YOU CAN GO LOOK IN THE CHECKBOOK AS WELL TO LOOK AT WHAT MONEY WAS SPENT TWO AS YOU CAN SEE IN A COUPLE OF SECONDS IT BROUGHT UP ALL OF THIS, WHAT WE EXPECTED IN REVENUES. NOW WE COULD TURN AROUND, WHAT COUNCIL APPROVES IN DECEMBER OF 2025, WOULD IT BE ANTICIPATED EXPENDITURES TO BE. AND THEN YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK AT REVENUE VERSUS EXPENDITURES IN THESE CHARTS.

>> SO ONE THING WE DID KIND OF FIND AS WE WERE TESTING IT TO SEE WHAT IT WILL PULL IN, THE THING ABOUT OUR BUDGET, THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT FUNDS. SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU -- IT KIND OF GETS CONFUSED. SAY FOR INSTANCE YOU JUST PUT IN, WHAT IS THE BUDGET FOR SALARIES.

BECAUSE THAT SALARY COMES OUT OF LOTS OF DIFFERENT FUNDS, MY SALARY MAY BE SPLIT UP AGAINST ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT FUNDS, IT DOESN'T REALLY IDENTIFY THAT QUITE CLEARLY.

SO YOU KIND OF HAVE TO THINK ABOUT HOW THE BUDGET IS SET UP WITH SO MANY FUNDS. WE KIND OF HAVE TO -- IT DOESN'T REALLY IDENTIFY THOSE AS EASILY AS MAYBE IT SHOULD.

BUT I THINK OVER TIME IT SHOULD LEARN SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AND IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADAPT TO THAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> ONE THING TO POINT OUT, IF I AS A RESIDENT CREATE AN ACCOUNT, MY QUESTIONS WILL ONLY SHOW UP THERE. MY QUESTIONS WILL SHOW UP IN THAT BOX. NOBODY ELSE'S.

FOR EXAMPLE WHEN I LOGGED IN EARLIER TODAY, JANELLE AND I WERE IN ANOTHER MEETING, WE TESTED IT THERE, I WENT BACK AND LOOKED, THE ONLY THING THAT WAS MY AI WAS THE QUESTIONS THAT I

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ASKED. >> SO THEY WILL STAY THERE IF YOU CREATE A LOGIN, YOU CAN'T GET RID OF THEM TWO OR IT WILL GET RID OF THE OLD ONES? BUT IF YOU WANT A MORE IN DEPTH INFORMATION THEN YOU HAVE TO GO DOWN TO THIS AREA.

THEY ARE WORKING ON THIS AS FAR AS MAKING IT AVAILABLE FOR OTHER YEARS, BUT I REACHED OUT TO THE COMPANY AND ASKED WHY IT WASN'T PULLING FROM PREVIOUS YEAR'S DATA AND HE SAID THEY HAVE NOT WORKED THROUGH THAT COMPLETELY. THIS IS HOPEFULLY SOMETHING WE WILL WORK OUT OVER TIME AND BE MORE ROBUST OVER THE YEARS.

WE ALSO STILL HAVE ACCESS TO CHECKBOOK, SAME AS THE PREVIOUS WEBSITE. WE STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THAT MATERIAL. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES THIS SITE ALSO BETTER IS NOW WE HAVE EXPANDED, WE HAVE ADDED INFORMATION ABOUT TAX. LOTS OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THEIR TAXES WORK AND WHAT WE USE THEM FOR, SO IT TALKS ABOUT -- WE TOOK SOME OF THIS INFORMATION FROM OTHER PRESENTATIONS WE HAVE USED THROUGHOUT THIS SERIES LIKE THE CITIZEN'S ACADEMY, AND ADDED THIS INTO THE WEBSITE.

SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE TAXES GO, WHAT DO WE USE IT FOR.

ALSO SOME OF THE YOUTUBE VIDEOS ABOUT HOW OUR TAXES WORK HERE, UNDERSTANDING INCOME TAX, SO THESE ARE NEW VIDEOS.

>> THESE ARE NEW VIDEOS, WE WILL SHOW YOU THE TWO NEW VIDEOS WE HAD IN ADDITION TO THE PROPERTY TAX VIDEO, THE CRA VIDEO, AND THE NCA. [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] THAT WAS PART ONE.

AND THEN THERE'S THIS ONE. [INAUDIBLE]

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[INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE]

>> SO THERE IS ALSO ON THE SAME PAGE, UPLOADED INFORMATION ON PROJECTS, HELP FINANCE OUR LARGER PROJECTS, AND ALSO INFORMATION ABOUT THE NCA. I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE SO WE MADE IT A VERY ACCESSIBLE.

WE ARE ALSO WORKING TO ADD SOME STATS TO THIS PAGE, WE ALSO HAVE TIMELINES HERE FOR INSTANCE, LIKE HOW OUR BUDGET WORKS AND WHAT THAT CYCLE LOOKS LIKE. WE ADDITIONALLY ADDED INFORMATION ABOUT WORK WE HAVE RECEIVED ON OUR FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY, AND HOW OUR FINANCES WORK.

ALSO WE HAVE OUR DEMOGRAPHICS PAGE, THIS DID NOT CHANGE, THEN WE ALSO HAVE A FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS PAGE COME I WENT THROUGH AND THOUGHT BACK TO MYSELF LIKE WHAT ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I PERSONALLY HAVE BEFORE I PERSONALLY STARTED DOING THIS FIRST, LIKE WHAT DID I NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE CITY'S FINANCES. AND IT KIND OF CAME UP WITH SOME THINGS ABOUT LIKE HOW DO WE SPEND OUR MONEY RESPONSIBLY, DID WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN AUDIT. SO I CREATED SOME INFORMATION ON THIS. ONE OF THE THINGS ON THE BUSINESS SIDE, ONE IS THE AI PIECE BUT ALSO THE USE OF UPGRADING THE SITE BY STAFF. SOME OF THE THINGS WE CAN ACTUALLY DO OURSELVES, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT ON SOMEBODY, TO UPLOAD THEM FOR US. IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR US TO GET INFORMATION OUT THERE QUICKLY AND TO MAKE SURE IT IS UP TO DATE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THAT IS ONE NICE THING ABOUT THIS WEBSITE. PRIVACY ON THE OTHER SIDE WE HAD TO WAIT AND SOMETIMES IT CAN WAIT A WEEK OR TWO TO GET THAT INFORMATION POSTED, LOTS OF TIMES THERE WOULD BE QUESTIONS, A LOT OF CORRESPONDENCE BACK AND FORTH ON THAT.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN MAINTAIN OURSELVES A LOT EASIER.

>> THE SITE ALSO ALLOWS US TO ADD TABS CATHOLIC POLICE AND FIRE, WE PLAN ON MEETING WITH THE POLICE CHIEF AND FIRE CHIEF SO WE WILL START UPLOADING ALL THE DATA.

END COUNCIL ASKED ABOUT CRIME STATS AND OTHER STATS, THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AS WELL.

>> AND IF YOU FIND THERE IS A NAME FOR SOMETHING SPECIFIC WE CAN ACTUALLY EDIT THE SITE TO MEET THOSE NEEDS.

IF WE SEE THERE ARE QUESTIONS COMING UP FREQUENTLY WE CAN ADD THAT INFORMATION TO THE SITE AND HAVE IT AVAILABLE FOR THE PU

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PUBLIC. >> SORRY I THINK THIS IS -- AND I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT STILL NEED TO HAPPEN THAT WILL MAKE IT BETTER, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS, AT LEAST FOR THE NINE YEARS I'VE BEEN DOING THIS, WHAT I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF REASONS PEOPLE GO LOOK FOR INFORMATION IS BECAUSE IT'S TOO COMPLICATED TO FIND. CHECKBOOK IS JUST NOT A VERY EASY THING TO GO THROUGH, AND THEN YOU FIND INFORMATION, NOT SURE OF THAT INFORMATION IS WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.

SO THE TERM USER FRIENDLY IS A BIG THING FOR PEOPLE, THEY ARE MORE COMFORTABLE -- THE EASIER SOMETHING IS, THE MORE THEY WILL USE IT. I THINK THIS IS PUTTING US DOWN THAT ROUTE SO I'M HAPPY TO SEE THIS AND HOPEFULLY WHEN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE INFORMATION IS READILY AVAILABLE, IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN BUT IT'S EASIER TO DECIPHER WITH THIS NEW PROGRAM AND ASSISTANCE WE HAVE, MORE PEOPLE WILL WANT TO GO OUT AND LOOK TO FIND INFORMATION AND GET THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED BECAUSE THIS INFORMATION IS EASIER TO FIND. I AM REALLY PLEASED WITH WHAT I AM SEEING AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SYSTEM GETTING BETTER AND BETTER MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS JUST THE DIFFICULTY OF IT ALL IS WHAT HAS KEPT PEOPLE FROM BEING ENGAGED AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S GOING ON.

>> I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE A FINANCIAL DEGREE, IT IS HARD TO FIGURE OUT SOME OF THESE THINGS, AND I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT THE PUBLIC CAN GO OUT AND TYPE SOMETHING AND UNDERSTAND SOMETHING ABOUT POLICE OR FIRE AND BRING THAT INFORMATION UP.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE REALLY IN-DEPTH KNOWLEDGE OF HOW WE SET OUR MONEY UP OR HOW OUR FUNDS ACTUALLY WORK.

IT REALLY SPELLS IT OUT FOR YOU. >> PEOPLE GENERALLY THEY FEAR WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW, THE SYSTEM BEFORE, IT IS COMPLICATED.

IT IS EASIER TO USE THIS CALCULATES USER FRIENDLY, HOPEFULLY IT GETS MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED AND ENGAGED WITH INFORMATION OUT THERE. SO THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> YES, THIS IS EXCITING. VERY EXCITING.

GLAD TO SEE YOU ON BOARD. I WOULD HOPE THAT IF WE SEE SOME RECURRING QUESTIONS BEING ASKED THAT WE ADDED TO THIS, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THE FINANCIAL PRODUCT THAT WE ALSO POST ON THERE, THE STATE OF WORK AND OUR EXCELLENT PERFORMANCE.

>> IT IS ON THERE. >> ALREADY ON THERE.

>> ALL OUR WORDS FROM NOT ONLY FROM THE GFOA, AND OUR -- THE CONSISTENT AUDIT IS ON THERE, PLUS OUR FINANCES, AND THE TRANSPARENCY AWARD THAT NOT ONLY GOES BETWEEN THOSE KEY DEPARTMENTS, THE CLERK'S OFFICE FOR ALL REQUESTS AND BECAUSE WE USE TOOLS LIKE THAT WE GET THE HIGHEST ACHIEVEMENT, WE CAN GET A FOUR STARS, 4 OUT OF 4. SO BETWEEN PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS AND TRANSPARENCY PLUS OUR AUDITS AS WELL.

THERE ARE SEVERAL CATEGORIES LISTED IN THERE, AND I DID UPDATE, I THINK IT WAS LAST COUNCIL MEETING OR WORK SESSION, WE WERE NOTIFIED WE WOULD GET THE AWARD AGAIN.

I THINK WE PUT THE STATS IN THERE, I THINK IT'S ONLY 14% AUDITED ENTITIES, PUBLIC ENTITIES, FOUR STARS.

>> SO THIS WILL GO LIVE AFTER WE APPROVE IT NEXT WEEK?

>> THERE IS NO APPROVAL, WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW IT TO YOU, WE WILL WORK ON SOME PR NEXT AND BUILD OUT THE POLICE AND FIRE PAGE AND WE WILL GO LIVE. ALL THE VIDEOS ARE ON OUR WEBSITE ALREADY, THE ONE THAT YOU JUST SAW WILL BE ON OUR WEBSITE, AND ALSO OUR YOUTUBE SITE.

YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE ALL THESE THINGS.

TONIGHT IS JUST A PRESENTATION AND A LIVE INTERACTION, WE WANTED TO SHOW THAT IT'S NOT IN THE BACK ROOM.

>> BEHIND THE CURTAINS. [LAUGHTER] THE REASON I ASK THAT IS BECAUSE THE DESCRIPTION ON THE DATA PACKAGE SAID UPON APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL.

>> IT DOES NOT NEED APPROVAL. >> SO WE COULDN'T GO AND START

TINKERING? >> SOON AS WE PUT IT LIVE YES.

>> IT'S NOT LIVE YET. WE STILL HAVE A FEW THINGS I HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT TO THE SUPPORT DESK ABOUT, THAT I FOUND THAT I WAS LIKE OKAY I DON'T LIKE THIS, FOR INSTANCE HERE, THIS IS OVER TOP OF [UNCLEAR]. THERE'S A FEW TWEAKS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE, WE WILL GET THOSE CORRECTED BEFORE WE GO LIVE.

I'M HOPING NO LATER THAN THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

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>> OKAY THANK YOU. >> HOPEFULLY SOONER BUT, YEAH.

>> THANK YOU. >> SO ONCE LIVE --

>> WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IS STILL THIS.

>> CLEARGOV, BUT THEN CLEARGOV WAS PURCHASED BY GRAVITY?

>> THEY MERGED. >> AND THAT'S WHAT IS GIVING US THESE -- AND I THINK THOSE EXPENSES FOR THESE EXTRAS WERE ALREADY APPROVED? AT THE STAFF LEVEL?

>> YES THE ORIGINAL CLEARGOV COUNCIL APPROVED LAST YEAR, WAS A SEPARATE AGREEMENT TO JUST DO THE ENGAGEMENT WAS UNDER THE COMMERCIAL THAT DID NOT COME TO COUNCIL SO IT'S TWO SEPARATE AGREEMENTS. WE HAVE THE CLEARGOV AGREEMENT WHICH WAS FOR THE TRANSPARENCY, THE BUDGET MODULE, PERSONNEL BUDGET AND CAPITAL BUDGET. IF YOU RECALL LAST YEAR, JIM DID A GREAT JOB WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO GET EVERYTHING IN THE NEW SYSTEM. LAST YEAR'S BUDGET WAS IN CLEARGOV, SO [UNCLEAR] AND WE PUT THAT TIMING CYCLE IN THERE SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE BUDGET ACTUALLY STARTS IN MARCH, THEN THE TAX BUDGET AND STAFF MET ALREADY WITH SENIOR MANAGEMENT, FINANCE STAFF AND MANAGEMENT HAS ALREADY MET.

RIGHT NOW CLEARGOV IS OPEN FOR STAFF TO START USING, MARCH 25TH, WE WILL PUT IT ALL TOGETHER FOR THE PRESENTATION FOR YOU. AND THEN WE WILL DO THAT IN NOVEMBER SO IT'LL OFFER TWO READINGS OF THE BUDGET THIS YEAR. THIS IS ACTUALLY SPEEDING UP A LOT OF OUR PROCESSES. WITH THE MERGER, WITH CLEARGOV, WE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WERE AVAILABLE.

THE BIGGEST ONE THAT THE OTHER COMPANY BROUGHT WASN'T THE ENGAGEMENT PIECE. -- WAS THE -- SO WE ENTERED A SEPARATE AGREEMENT THAT DID NOT HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

THIS IS I THINK WELL WORTH THE EXPENDITURE FOR THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SPECIFICALLY THE APES, AND THE CUSTOM -- SPECIFICALLY THE AI PIECE -- TO YOUR POINT, IF THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS THAT KEEP COMING UP OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WE CAN PUT THAT IN THE SYSTEM. WE CAN UPDATE IT, AND REALLY WHAT WE ARE HOPING IS ONCE WE GO WITH THE POLICE AND FIRE STATS, PICKS UP A FEW BUMPS WE HAVE IN THE SYSTEM, WE WILL BE LIVE END OF THE MONTH AND PUT OUT SOME PR.

THERE WILL BE A LINK FROM OUR WEBSITE AS WELL JUST LIKE THERE IS NOW. WE WILL STILL PARTICIPATE IN OPEN CHECKBOOK, YOU WILL ALWAYS SEE OPEN CHECKBOOK BUT WE WILL STILL PARTICIPATE IN THE TREASURER'S OFFICE.

WE DO REPORT TO TWO SYSTEMS NOW AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT FOR REPORTS IN THE STATE OF OHIO AND PUT INFORMATION IN THIS PIECE AS WELL, CLEARGOV SITE WILL NOW BE IN THE FINANCIAL ENGAGEMENT

SITE. >> THIS ONE WILL BE MORE

COMPREHENSIVE? >> YES IT'LL BE A LOT EASIER, JANELLE SHOWED YOU BUT THE STATE'S WEBSITE LOOKS LIKE, IT'S JUST NUMBERS, EXPENDITURES. IT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO

NAVIGATE. >> OH, I KNOW.

>> TO FIND STUFF. YOU WILL STILL PARTICIPATE.

WITH THE NEW SOFTWARE, FINANCIAL SOFTWARE GOING LIVE, THERE IS INTERACTION WITH CLEARGOV SO IT MAKES IT EASY FOR OUR STAFF TO SEND THAT INFORMATION. BUT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING IS WE HAVE TO DOWNLOAD THE INFORMATION OUT OF THE CURRENT FINANCIAL SOFTWARE, WE HAVE TO CHANGE IT TO EVERYBODY'S FORMAT CONSISTED OF A HIGHRES FORMAT AND THIS FORMAT.

IT WILL BE VERY SWIFT GOING LIVE WITH SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS IN NOVEMBER, CLICK OF A BUTTON, WE CAN SEND IT TO THE STATE OF OHIO. AND THEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET IT QUICKLY FROM CLEARGOV. A LOT OF INTERACTIONS.

I WILL SAY WE APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S SUPPORT UPDATING ALL THESE FINANCIAL SOFTWARES, IT HELPS US AND ALSO HELPS PROVIDE REALTIME DATA TO COUNCIL AND CITIZENS.

>> JIM, ARE YOU GOING TO PUT A CALCULATOR AWAY?

[LAUGHTER] >> I WILL TELL YOU WE WERE ABLE TO BRING A LOT MORE TO COUNCIL NOW THAT -- I HATE TO SAY THIS -- THAT WE ARE FULLY STAFFED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN SEVEN YEARS.

I AM HAPPY ABOUT THAT. I APPRECIATE ALL THE CLARIFICATION ABOUT THAT, I KNOW THERE WERE COUNCIL QUESTIONS AROUND HOW THESE PIECES ARE HAPPENING WITH THAT MERGER WITH

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GRAVITY, AND HOW THIS WILL WORK. >> THANK YOU MAYOR.

WITH THIS CITIZENS HAVE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, WOULD THE CLERK'S OFFICE GO PULL THIS DATA OR WOULD THEY DEFER TO THEM TO PULL THE DATA OUT OF THE WEBSITE THEMSELVES?

>> I WOULD HOPE THAT IT WOULD REDUCE THE PUBLIC RECORDS

REQUEST. >> THAT IS WHAT I AM HOPING FOR.

>> THE INFORMATION IS OUT THERE. I WILL LET TONY TO SPEAK TO THIS BUT IF THEY FILE A RECORDS REQUEST [UNCLEAR] YOU CAN SAY -- WE WOULD PULL THAT INFORMATION LIVE.

IF YOU LOOK AT 2026, RIGHT NOW IT IS LOOKING AT WHAT WE BUDGETED FOR EXPENDITURES. IF YOU LOOK AT 2025, ITS ACTUAL -- GRAVITY HAS THE ACTUAL EXPENDITURE.

I DID THIS TODAY JUST TESTING IT OUT, I SAID LET ME CHECK THIS NEW AI OUT, AND IT BROKE IT D DOWN.

SO, OVER TO THIS SLIDE IT SAYS WHERE YOUR MONEY CAN GO, I CAN GO UP AND SPEAK THAT TO AI AND SAY HOW MUCH MONEY IS BUDGETED TOWARDS INCOME TAX REVENUE? AND IT WILL BREAK IT DOWN.

BECAUSE THIS IS LOOKING AT WHAT WE BUDGETED.

NOW AFTER THE FIRST YEAR THESE NUMBERS WON'T CHANGEWILL CHANGE, AND THAT THE TOP SCREEN, TOTAL BUDGETED IN 2026, THAT WILL TURN INTO A ZERO ONCE WE START TO 2027 BECAUSE IT IS NOT BUDGETED ANYMORE. ALL THE DATA NOW IS ACTUAL

EXPENDITURES. >> OKAY GREAT THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TWO DON? >> THANKS MAYOR IT'S NOT A QUESTION IT'S A COMMENT, I WILL DIRECT IT TO OUR CITY MANAGER.

JOHN, WE GO BACK A FEW YEARS COUNCIL WAS PRETTY ADAMANT ABOUT THE FACT OF OUR WEBSITE NEEDING TO HAVE VAST IMPROVEMENT.

LOOKING AT THIS TODAY, THIS WEBSITE IS VISUAL NOW, IT'S INFORMATIVE, IS ACTUALLY EVEN KIND OF FUN TO GO IN THERE, THOSE MODULES ANOTHER EXAMPLE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND TELL YOU THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF HAVE LITERALLY KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK, MORE THAN COUNCIL'S REQUEST ON MAKING A WEBSITE BETTER. I THINK YOU MADE IT INCREDIBLE,

AND I WANT TO THANK YOU. >> I APPRECIATE IT.

KUDOS HAVE TO GO TO STAFF, I HAVE DONE NOTHING.

[LAUGHTER] SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND.

THEY REALLY HAVE TRULY -- ELECTRONICS COMMENT, IT'S WHAT WOULD I ASK IF I DID NOT KNOW WHAT I KNOW, AND I THINK OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE THE ANSWERS THEY NEED AT THEIR FINGERTIPS. I KNOW TONY WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE EASIER TO FIND AND I THINK THAT'S THE PROBLEM, IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIND A. HOPEFULLY THIS HELPS.

IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, DEFINITELY SARAH WILLIAMS, ALEX, IT IS JUST STAFF.

EVERYBODY HAS A PART IN THIS I APPRECIATED, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> I NOTICE THE STATS THE RESIDENTS IN FAVOR FROM THE LAST SESSION, DID WE SEE HOW MANY RESIDENTS? BECAUSE THAT WOULD SHIFT SOME

NUMBERS AND PERCENTAGES. >> IF WE WENT INTO TOTAL POPULATION AND SCROLL DOWN, THERE IS IN BETWEEN THE TWO SENSES THERE IS A FIVE YEAR [UNCLEAR].

THE ORIGINAL PROBLEM WE HAD WITH THE FIRST TRANSPARENCY PAGE, THEY HAD TO WORK THE BACK END TO PULL THAT CENSUS DATA, AARON WAS VERY HELPFUL WITH THAT. SO THIS IS GOING TO PULL IT EVERY TIME. REALLY WE GET THAT OUT OF DATE JUST LIKE ESSENTIALLY EVERY FIVE YEARS, EVERY TEN YEARS IS THE CENSUS AND THE FIVE YEAR ESTIMATE.

>> OKAY. [UNCLEAR] FIVE YEAR MARK?

>> I THINK WE ARE COMING UP CLOSE BECAUSE THE CENSUS WAS DELAYED A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. SO WE WILL PROBABLY BE COMING

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CLOSE -- >> IS ACTUALLY THE COMMUNITY SURVEY, IT'S A FIVE YEAR ESTIMATE! EVERY YEAR, A NEW ONE IS RELEASED.

>> OKAY. SO WE ARE TO ASSUME THAT THAT IS

PRETTY CLOSE? >> THAT IS PRETTY CLOSE YES PRETTY CLOSE TYPICALLY, 18 MONTHS-24 MONTHS LAG IN THE DATA RELEASED, SO I THINK RIGHT NOW 2023 ACES WOULD BE...

2024 ACS, IT HAS A NOTE FROM WHAT YEAR IT IS PULLING THE DATA. BUT OTHER THAN THE DECENNIAL CENSUS, EVERYTHING IS AN ESTIMATE.

SO THE ACS IS A ROLLING FIVE YEAR ESTIMATE, FOR A CITY OUR SIZE THAT IS PROBABLY TWO PEOPLE A MONTH, ONE TO TWO PEOPLE A MONTH THAT ACTUALLY DO THE THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY, AND THAT IS HOW IT IS UPDATED EVERY YEAR.

>> ONCE AGAIN YOU CAN PULL THOSE DATA DIRECTLY FROM THE CENSUS WEBSITE. IT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO NAVIGATE, THE OLD PIECE AND THE ADDITIONAL MERGER, WHAT YOU ARE SEEING TODAY, IT PULLS ALL THAT DATA IN AND PUTS IT IN A SPOT.

SO YOU DO HAVE SOME GRAPHS ON THE CENSUS WEBSITE, BUT IT'S A LOT MORE ON THERE. JUST PULLING THE DATA AND PUTTING IT INTO A FORMAT THAT IS EASY TO READ AND UNDERSTAND.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY THANK YOU SO MUCH I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. GOOD STUFF.

GOOD TO SEE THAT DEVELOP OVER THE NEXT MONTHS AND HERE IS PRETTY COOL OKAY NEXT UP WOULD ACTUALLY BE ITEM 3D, THE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY SCHOOLS -- B. WAS --

>> YOU ARE RIGHT. >> I HAVE CHANGED ALL THE SUBSEQUENT DOWN SO HER FIRST G, ET CETERA.

[ Huber Heights City Schools - MOU - School Resource Officers]

SO ITEM 3D WOULD BE THE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY SCHOOLS MOU FOR THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS. SO ITEM 3B WAS ACTUALLY THE ISSUANCE OF REFUNDS AND BONDS, THE FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY AND ENGAGEMENT PRESENTATION WAS ACTUALLY C.

OKAY. >> HOW ARE YOU, SIR?

>> I AM WELL MAYOR, GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY THIS EVENING.

HAVE THE NEW UPDATED MOU BETWEEN HUBER HEIGHTS CITY SCHOOLS AND THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS FOR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER FOR THE 2026-2027 AND 2020 SCHOOL YEAR THIS MOU IS EXACTLY THE SAME FROM PREVIOUS YEARS MINUS THE NAMES AND THE DATES AS WELL AS SOME UPDATED OR ARC LANGUAGE TO REFLECT THE CURRENT STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS TO SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS.

>> THANK YOU SO NOTHING HAS CHANGED, SAME THING? HOW IS THE RELATIONSHIP WORKING? EVERYTHING I HEARD, SCHOOLS JUST LOVE PEOPLE THEY GOT AND IT'S REALLY GOOD.

>> I WAS AT THE COMMENCEMENT, I KNOW NANCY WAS THERE FOR THE CONVOCATION. TWO OF THE BIGGEST APPLAUDS CAME FROM SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS. ALSO I THINK GABBY DOES AN AMAZING JOB. I HAD A BRIEF TALK WITH JASON, THE NEW SUPERINTENDENT, I THINK THEY ARE HAPPY WHERE WE ARE AND HAPPY WITH THE AMOUNT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.

>> I SAW THAT WHEN I WAS THERE, JUST THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS, THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE TALKING TO'S SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS. [UNCLEAR] IT'S GOOD TO SEE THEY ARE THERE, AND I THINK THE KIDS DEPEND ON THEM MORE THAN THEY ACTUALLY REALIZE. OKAY GOOD STUFF.

ANY QUESTIONS? >> CAN WE GET A REPORT? WE GOT REPORTS IN THE PAST OF HOW MANY CALLS OR WHATEVER IT WAS FROM EACH SCHOOL, WE HAVE ONE ELEMENTARY HAD CALLS IN

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LARGER NUMBERS AND WE WERE KIND OF LOOKING AT THAT A COUPLE YEARS AGO, SHOULD IT BE INCREASED TO ANOTHER ONE JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND ALSO WITH THAT QUESTION IS A LARGE NUMBER, BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO KIDS CAUSING A LOT OF PROBLEMS OR IS IT OVERALL A BIG PROBLEM THERE?

>> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GET THAT FOR YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY [UNCLEAR]. NEXT IS ITEM 3E, TENNIS COURT

[ Tennis Court Resurfacing Project - Award Contract]

RESURFACING PROJECT TO AWARD THAT CONTRACT.

>> HELLO, YES, YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU A RESOLUTION IN TERMS OF A CONTRACT WITH PRO TENNIS, THE BIDDER FOR THIS PROJECT.

WHEN I WAS HERE IN JULY, I HAD ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO SEE IF WE COULD GET TWO TO THREE SECTIONS OF THE COURTS DONE FOR THE 175,900 EARMARKED IN THE BUDGET, AT COUNCIL'S REQUEST, I LOOKED AT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO DO ALL 12 OF THE COURTS OUT THERE, IT IS COMING IN RIGHT AROUND $360,000 CURRENTLY THAT DOES LEAVE US SOME CONTINGENCY MONEY, IF WE FIND A CRACK THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT OR SOMETHING, ONCE WE GET THAT SURFACING AND THE FORMER CRACK REPAIR SYSTEM UP, AND BECAUSE OUR OTHER PROJECTS IN THE PREVIOUS BUDGET HAVE COME IN UNDER BUDGET WE ARE ABLE TO FUND THIS ENTIRELY FOR THIS YEAR.

ORIGINALLY, THE PLAN FOR THE YEAR BEGINNING 2025, I HAD EARMARKED $100,000 EACH YEAR FOR FOUR YEARS.

SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD COST US ABOUT $400,000 BASED ON SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY CRACKS ARE COMING IN AT 360 I THINK IS GOOD. AND I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE

FORWARD WITH IT. >> GOOD TO SEE THIS WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF THIS YEAR. THE COURTS GET USED, I AM GLAD THIS DECISION [UNCLEAR] ANY QUESTIONS? NANCY? [INAUDIBLE]

>> THEY WILL SCHEDULE US IN JUNE OF 2027, I HOPED FOR THE FALL BUT THEY SAID IT IS BETTER TO DO SUMMER AND IN JUNE IT WILL GET US PAST THE HIGH SCHOOL SPRING SEASON SO WE WILL HAVE

THEM USABLE. >> THANK YOU.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTIONS?

[ Chambersburg Road Widening Project - Phase IV - Grant Application]

OKAY. THANK YOU.

NEXT WILL BE ITEM 3F, THE CHAMBERSBURG ROAD WIDENING PROJECT PHASE FOUR, AND THE GRANT APPLICATION.

>> THIS LEGISLATION WILL AUTHORIZE THE CITY TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR DISTRICT FOUR OF THE OHIO PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE FOR FUNDING TO HELP CONSTRUCT THE CHAMBERSBURG ROAD PHASE FOUR PROJECT, THIS PROJECT IS EAST OF BELFORD ROAD, AND IT BEGINS WITH THE WIDENING PROJECT, PAGE 3. THIS PHASE IS ABOUT A HALF MILE LONG, IT ENDS AT THE TOP OF THE HILL BEFORE IT STARTED GOING DOWN. THE LOCATION AS SHOWN IN THE PACKET THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS WIDENING THE ROAD FROM TWO TO THREE LANES, LOWERING A PORTION OF THE ROADWAY TO CRESTON ROAD, ADDING THE CURVE, WATER MAIN, STORM, SEWER AND AN 8-FOOT BIKE PATH, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE USE CURRENTLY.

THIS IS TOO MUCH THE PREVIOUS THREE SECTIONS OF WIDENING WE DID EARLIER FOR THIS PROJECT. ESTIMATED FOR CONSTRUCTION IS $4,250,000, THE GRANT APPLICATION REQUESTED $750,000 IN FUNDING, 350,000 LOAN. THE SIZE OF THIS PROJECT HAS ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED -- DESIGN -- OF THE APPLICATION IS APPROVED IT WOULD BE COMPLETED BY ABOUT THE END OF THE YEAR, CONSTRUCTION WILL NOT OCCUR UNTIL 2028.

YOU MAKE ANY QUESTIONS? CAN YOU MAKE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU MAYOR. >> DOES THAT INCLUDE PROPERTY ACQUISITION COSTS AS THEY GO DOWN [UNCLEAR]

>> YES, WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING THAT STARTING ABOUT NOW, WE ALREADY HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THAT.

WE ARE BEGINNING THAT PROCESS, IT WILL BE DONE MIDDLE OF NEXT

YEAR. >> TWO THINGS, THIS IS KIND OF

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AN ADMINISTRATIVE THING. THE LEGISLATION CLEARLY STATES IT AS EAST, BUT WHEN WE DO THE LIKE THE PACKAGES HERE COULD WE MAKE SURE WE PUT THAT IN THERE BECAUSE WE ARE DOING SOMETHING [UNCLEAR] AND IT'S EASIER TO DIFFERENTIATE.

THE OTHER THING IS, IS THIS SEPARATE FROM THE REQUEST FROM

[UNCLEAR]? >> WE HAD A REQUEST ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN YEARS AGO, AND THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A FIVE YEAR PROJECT. IT DID NOT GET APPROVED, THEY KEPT PUSHING IT OFF, WE HAD TO DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY.

BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ANY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOING ON DOWN THERE, THEY NEVER APPROVED THE FUNDING.

WE ENDED UP DROPPING THAT. SO NOW WE ARE GOING TO OPWC.

>> WHERE DID I SEE THAT ON THE LIST?

>> THAT WAS THE WEST PROJECT. >> OKAY.

>> I THINK IT IS FUNDING ON THE WEST PROJECT BUT --

>> WE HAD APPROVAL ON THE EAST? >> ORIGINALLY, APPROVAL THROUGH

OPWC. >> I UNDERSTAND.

>> AND NEVER GOT FINAL APPROVAL. >> OKAY.

SO WHEN WOULD WE FIND OUT ABOUT THIS?

>> END OF THE YEAR, PROBABLY DECEMBER.

>> THAT IS SOON, COOL THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY WE ARE MOVING ON.

[ Rip Rap Road Wellfield - Production Well No. 7 Connection - Award Contract]

NEXT IS ITEM 3G, RIP RAP ROAD WELLFIELD PRODUCTION WELL NUMBEG

THAT CONTRACT. >> GO INTO THE CITY TO AWARD THE CONTRACT FOR THE SECOND PHASE OF THE INSTALLATION OF THE NEW MUNICIPAL WATER SUPPLY WELL. IS IS AT THE RIP RAP ROAD WATER TREATMENT PLANT, IT WILL BE THE SIXTH WELL WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN USE IN PUBLIC SERVICE. THE MAP OF THE LOCATION OF THE WELLFIELD THERE IS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET, NOT TOO FAR AWAY FROM WELL NUMBER 6, ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO.

THE ACTUAL WELL WAS DRILLED, AND THE OUTCOME OF THAT WAS USED TO DESIGN THE MOTORS NEEDED FOR THE SECOND PHASE.

THE WORK NEEDED TO COMPLETE, SECOND PHASE INCLUDES INSTALLATION OF THE WELL PUMP, CONSTRUCTION OF THE WATER METER VAULT, AND INSTALLING A 16-INCH WATER MAIN TO CONNECT TO THE EXISTING WELL NUMBER 6. WE RECEIVED TWO BIDS FOR THIS PROJECT, THE LOW BID WAS AT 109:93:36 THE SECOND WELL BETTER WAS $1,099,570. $244 DIFFERENCE ON THAT ONE.

THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED IS 1,225,000, [UNCLEAR].

FUNDING FOR THIS WORK HOPE YOU [UNCLEAR].

THANK YOU. JUST A QUESTION, 200 AND SOMETHING DOLLARS BETWEEN THE TWO BIDS, I KEEP THINKING, THE VALUE OF TIME AND HAVING THE THINGS FORN UP BACK THERE, IT WOULD TAKE TWICE AS LONG FOR THE BENEFIT OF $200.

WHY NOT APPROVE OF THE ONE THAT WON'T TAKE AS LONG TO DO BUT?

>> WE WERE NOT DEALING WITH A TIME DEADLINE.

WE ARE NOT IN A HURRY FOR IT, WITHOUT GIVING THE TIME PERIOD WOULD BRING PRICES DOWN, IN SOME INSTANCES GETTING MORE CONTRACTORS AND WE STILL ONLY GOT TWO.

THIS IS A LARGER CONTRACTOR, AND THEY HAVE DONE MORE OF THIS TYPE OF WORK. THEY DID A GOOD JOB ON EVERYTHING BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE EVER DONE ANY WELLS BEFORE. [INAUDIBLE] SO FOR THE FACT THAT THEY ARE WORKING IN AN AREA WHERE THERE'S NOTHING ELSE LIKE, NO TRAFFIC OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WE THOUGHT JUST TO KEEP THE LOW BIDDER AND USE THEM, THAT'S WHY

WE KEPT THAT. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> IS THERE ANY CHANCE WE CAN

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TALK ABOUT [UNCLEAR] >> BYRGE WWW.?

>> YEAH,THEYACTUALLYSAIDTHEYWOUL DHAVEDONEITFASTER.THEYTHINKTHEYS

TER. >> OKAYTHANK YOU.

>> ANYTHINGELSE? ANY OBJECTIONS?

[ Carriage Trails Subdivision - Street Dedication]

OKAY. NEXT UP ITEM 3H, THE CARRIAGE TRAIL OF VISION STREET DEDICATION.

>> APPROVAL OF ONE STREET AND PORTIONS OF THREE OTHER STREETS WITHIN THE CARRIAGE TRAIL SUBDIVISION, IT IS ARROWWOOD STREET I SHOWED ON THE MAP TH THERE, THEY SHOWED THERE ARE THREE OF THESE SMALL SIDE STREETS INVOLVED, WHICH IS INCLUDING THE WOODMINT. THOSE ALL GO ONE LOT DEEP SOUTH OF THIS ROAD, I WILL ADDRESS THE LEGISLATION TO SAY THAT.

THAT WAS THE ONLY THING. IT IS A NEW MAP IN THERE ALSO FOR NEXT WEEK. ALL THESE STREETS WERE INSPECTED AN END ASPHALT WAS COMPLETED. ONCE THESE ARE MADE PUBLIC THEY WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE CITY FOR QUALITY AND REPAIR.

>> THANK YOU ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTIONS?

[ Carriage Trails - Special Assessments - Section 20 - Phase 2      *  Resolution Of Necessity]

OKAY MOVING FORWARD. NEXT IS ITEM 3I, CARRIAGE DRIVE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS FOR SECTION 20 PHASE TWO, WE HAVE A

RESOLUTION OF NECESSITY. >> YES MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THIS IS A DEVELOPER INITIATED A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT PETITION, THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME THAT WAS DONE FOR SECTION 20 PHASE ONE, AND HAS BEEN DONE FAIRLY ROUTINELY THROUGH THE ORIGINAL CARRIAGE TRAIL SUBDIVISION. SO IT IS AN ASSESSMENT TO OFFSET THE COST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, 25 INSTALLMENTS, IT WORKS OUT TO BE ABOUT $820 ANNUALLY PER LOT AT THIS PARTICULAR PETITION.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> CAN THE ORDINANCE GO TO TWO READINGS? SO WE WILL ADOPT THE RESOLUTION OF NECESSITY ON MONDAY AND THEN THE ORDINANCE WILL GO TO A

SECOND READING? >> OKAY.

ORDINANCE FOR THE SECOND REA READING.

OKAY THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION.

[ Case BDP 26-19 - Coast To Coast Heavy Haul, Inc. - Basic Development Plan - 4742 West National Road]

ANY OBJECTIONS TO MONDAY? OKAY.

NEXT IS ITEM 3J, WHICH IS THE CASE BDP 26-19 FOR COAST TO COAST HEAVY HAUL INCORPORATED, BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, 4742

WEST NATIONAL ROAD. >> YES SO THE APPLICANT WAS UNABLE TO BE HERE DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, ANDERSON'S COUNCIL HAD SOME FAIRLY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS WHICH I PASSED ON TO THE APPLICANT, I DID ASK THEM TO BE HERE TO FACE ADDITIONAL

QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT MOVING TO ANOTHER WORK SESSION, TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS THERE, SO WE WILL KIND OF OPEN THIS UP AGAIN, THE APPLICANT, WE WILL OPEN THIS UP FOR QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS OR ANYTHING

ANYBODY NEEDS MORE CLARITY ON. >> WELL FIRST OFF, DID THEY HAVE THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THEY WERE PRESENTED BECAUSE THEY

DID HAVE SOME MORE BUT -- >> THEY HAVE PROVIDED ME WITH A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS, BUT MOSTLY THEY JUST SAID THEY WOULD

BE PREPARED -- >> OKAY LET ME GO THROUGH THE LIST I HAVE, IT CAPTURES WHAT HAPPENED.

AT THE OTHER MEETING. ON SCREENING, THE NEIGHBORS SAID THEY PREFERRED FENCING OR WALLS VERSUS TREES.

ARE YOU OPEN TO DOING THAT? >> YES OPEN TO DOING THAT WHETHER IT IS FREEZE, FENCES, I AM OPEN.

>> OKAY. COULD YOU SPEAK INTO THE SPEAKER BECAUSE YOU ARE HARD TO HEAR. THE SECOND ONE WAS REGARDING DRAINAGE, REQUESTING THE STORMWATER PLAN BE CERTIFIED BY

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A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, NO INCREASE IN RUNOFF VOLUME OR PEAK FLOW IN EXISTING DRAINAGE SYSTEMS, AND SO THE COUNTY AND CITY ENGINEERS WOULD ENSURE REQUIREMENTS ARE MET.

HOWEVER I HAVE TO ASK, DOES THIS WARRANT A MORE SPECIALIZED LOOK TWO MAYBE FROM A STORMWATER SPECIALIST, TO GIVE AN ANALYSIS VERSUS MORE GENERALIZED ENGINEERING WORK? AND THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE THERE IS NO SHORTAGE OF RUNOFF THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, AND THE COUNTY, AND THAT THE DESIGN, I MEAN DOES THIS WARRANT -- I'M ASKING YOU I'M ASKING RUSS, DOES THIS WARRANT A MORE SPECIALIZED LOOK FOR THE STORMWATER

ASSESSMENT? >> YES THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING

TO GET. >> YES CERTAINLY WE WOULD HAVE A CIVIL ENGINEERING CONSULTANT DESIGNING AND ANALYZING THAT WATERSHED, UNDERSTANDING HOW IT FUNCTIONS TODAY, THE ISSUES THAT SURROUND IT AND THEN TRYING TO PROVIDE A SOLUTION THAT WON'T JUST MEET YOUR STANDARD BUT ALSO APPROVE AND STIPULATE ONGOING ISSUES, WE CAN'T JUST SAY HERE WE GO.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT OUTLET CAN PROVIDE AND WHAT WE CAN UTILIZE IT FOR.

>> SO THE BUSINESSES HAVE SEEN THE PROBLEMS, AFTERWARDS YOU

WOULD CORRECT THEM? >> I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON THE NATURE OF THEIR PROJECT RELATED TO BECAUSE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT YES. BUT IF IT IS SOMETHING BEYOND

THAT SCOPE THEN NO OBVIOUSLY. >> OKAY.

AND THEN YOU ASKED THE CITY CREATE A METHOD TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE OVER TIME, WHICH INVOLVED PROACTIVE MONITORING

VERSUS REACTING TO PROBLEMS. >> OR NOT, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY RAINS THAT WE'VE HAD RECENTLY, I DON'T THINK THEY ARE GOING TO -- THIS ISSUE IS NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER, AS WE HAVE CLIMATE CHANGE.

WE ARE GOING TO BE INSTITUTING A MORE REGIMENTED INSPECTIONS OF EXISTING STORMWATER FACILITIES, SO WE INSPECT THEM, WHEN THEY ARE ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED, THEN WE ALSO WILL ADDRESS ANY ISSUE CURRENTLY. WE ADDRESS ISSUES AS THEY COME UP. WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING IS TUNING A STANDARDIZED INSPECTION SYSTEM OF STORMWATER FACILITIES, MAKING SURE WE ARE PROACTIVELY ADDRESSING CLOGS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE BEFORE THEY BECOME AN ISSUE, WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE NECESSARILY DONE IN THE PAST.

>> THANK YOU. AND THEN WE WERE SPECULATING ON A A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT ISSUES, ONE OF THEM, PARKING SURFACE, IS THAT GOING TO BE -- WHAT KIND OF MATERIALS DO YOU INTEND TO USE?

>> I BELIEVE IT DICTATES IT HAS TO BE A HARD SURFACE.

>> LIKE CONCRETE? >> ASPHALT TYPE MATERIAL.

>> THE THOUGHT WAS MAYBE ASPHALT WOULDN'T STAND UP TO THE HEAVY

VEHICLES. >> THERE'S DIFFERENT METHODOLOGIES WE CAN USE EVEN WITH ASPHALT DESIGN, CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES MAY WARRANT CONCRETE OR ASPHALT.

>> OKAY. ANOTHER AREA WE DISCUSSED WAS THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT THE MAKING OF THE TURN WITH A LARGE TRUCK, TWO AND TWO AND 40, I THINK WE ARE MAKING AN ASSUMPTION THE TRUCK WILL BE COMING DOWN TO 02.

IS THAT WHERE YOUR PLAN IS? WE'RE COMING OUT OF 40? OBVIOUSLY THIS IS GOING TO BE A WIDE LOAD, WOULD IT NOT? THAT WOULD REQUIRE A VEHICLE ALONG WITH IT.

WHAT IS YOUR OPERATING PROCEDURE FOR DOING THAT?

>> YES SO WE DO PLAN ON UTILIZING THE F THE LEFT HAND TURN ONTO THE 40, BEFORE WE SET UP, OUR OVERALL LENGTH CAN GET UP TO 120 FEET, ON THE BIGGEST SETUP, IT IS 180 FEET PER COLUMN HOW CAN I BEST DESCRIBE THIS -- YOU CAN COLLAPSE DOWN TO THE TRAILER, IMAGINE LIKE A TRAILER HITCH ON A CAR, YOU CAN STACK THE TRAILER UPON ONE ANOTHER SO IT GOES FROM 120 TO JUST ABOUT 80 FEET, AND THE TIRES ARE FULLY STEERABLE, THEY OPERATE THE SAME

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WAY LIKE AXLES ON YOUR CAR WHEN YOU TURN YOUR STEERING WHEEL ALL THE WAY, IT TURNS YOU CAN MAKE A TIGHT CORNER TURNS AND WHATNOT.

REGARDING PILOT CARDS, WE HAVE OUR OWN ASSET BASED PILOT CARDS, TRAVELING WITH OTHER LOAD. MAKING ROOM FOR OUR VEHICLE SAFETY AND OTHERS. AND THERE MIGHT ALSO BE POLICE

ESCORTS AS WELL. >> SO THIS IS A HYPOTHETICAL, YOU WOULD BE COMING OFF THE 70 ON THE 201 AND TURN ONTO 40, IS

THAT WHAT IT WOULD BE? >> YES, UNLESS IT IS LOADED OBVIOUSLY. WE WOULD MAKE SURE WE COME ALL THE WAY AROUND AND COME BACK DOWN.

[UNCLEAR] YOU WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT ROUTE.

>> OKAY. >> REALLY QUICK, CAN YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME? WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE YOU FOR THE RECORD THAT'S

ALL. >> BRIAN LOONEY.

>> THANK YOU. >> THERE WAS ALSO A QUESTION ABOUT, IF YOU WOULD BE TRANSFERRING -- OF THE TRUCK CAME IN AND IT HAD TO SIT THERE FOR A WHILE, BEFORE IT WENT SOMEWHERE ELSE, WOULD IT BE TRANSFERRED ON TO ANOTHER TRUCK BED OR SOMETHING WHILE IT IS SITTING THERE?

>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT REGARDING [UNCLEAR]

>> WHILE IT IS SITTING IN THE FACILITY.

>> YES -- >> WOULD IT BE OFF-LOADED AT ANY

TIME? >> IT DEPENDS, WE ARE THE MAIN CARRIERS FOR [UNCLEAR] AND THEY REQUIRE STORAGE SOMETIMES, AND REQUIRING STORAGE FOR TRANSFORMERS AND WHATNOT, WE WOULD OFF-LOAD THOSE USING A HEAVY LIFT CRANE OR A DRAG WHERE YOU DRAG IT UP WITH AIR AND TAKE IT OFF.

>> THAT PRESENTS TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP, THAT THE IDEA OF CRANES BEING THERE, VISIBLE TO THE NEIGHBORS IS NOT A DESIRABLE THING. AND SECONDLY WHEN YOU ARE [UNCLEAR] ROADS LIKE THAT, THE POTENTIAL FOR SPILLAGE, SAFETY ISSUES, MAYBE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANSWERS TO.

AND OUR CITIZENS CONCERN. >> THE CRANE WON'T BE A STATIONARY CRANE, IF WE ARE DOING THE OFF LOAD IT MIGHT ONLY TAKE AN HOUR OR SO. THERE IS NO CRANE FOR THE OTHER METHOD OF, IT'S AS IF YOU HAVE A FLAT TIRE YOU JACK UP YOUR CAR, IN THIS INSTANCE WE USED A COUPLE BIG DRUGS THAT JACK UP THE UNIT OFF THE TRAILER AND WE USE A SYSTEM TO PUSH IT OFF THE PLACE, HOPEFULLY NOTHING DOES HAPPEN BUT IF IT DOES EVERYBODY CARRIES A PROPER INSURANCE AND WILL BE COMPLIANCE WITH THE FIRE

DEPARTMENT. >> DOES THAT REQUIRE SOME ETA

WORK OR SOMETHING? >> IF THERE WAS A SUPPOSEDLY BUT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT AS FAR AS WHAT IS REQUIRED

DURING TRANSPORT OR STORAGE. >> YEAH.

>> REGARDING INSIDE OF THE TRANSFORMER, IT'S AN EMPTY

SHELL. >> THE FIRE CHIEF DID SOME RESEARCH, THESE UNITS ARE CARING AND TRANSPORTED EMPTY.

THERE IS NO HAZARD. >> HOW WE TRANSPORTED THEM, WE DO THE HEAVY UNIT WHICH CAN BE 80,000 POUNDS TO THREE OR 4000 POUNDS, AND THAT'S JUST THE MAIN ONE, THEN THERE'S THE BUSHING AND THAT KIND OF STUFF, IT'S NOT FULLY BUILT OUT.

WHAT THE FIRE CHIEF LOOKED INTO THAT WOULD BE A CORE THAT ADD ON FOR THE FINAL DESTINATION. LET'S SAY WE ARE STORING IT FOR A YEAR, THERE WON'T BE ANYTHING IN THE TRANSFORMER.

>> DO YOU ANTICIPATE STORING A LOT OF THOSE AT YOUR FACILITY?

>> I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, I WILL ASK THEM TO LOOK AT THE STORAGE FACILITY BECAUSE WE HAVE FOLKS FROM IDAHO, EL PASO, TEXAS,, VIRGINIA, AND THEY MAY BE SHORT ON STORAGE SPACE.

THEY GOT ORDERS FOR TRANSFORMERS THAT HAVE TO BE PROVIDED FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, THEN THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS, AND IT IS STORED IN THEIR PRODUCTION.

>> SO THEY ARE -- ALREADY STORED?

>> ON THE GROUND. >> THOSE TRUCKS WITH THE LOAD ARE THE HEAVIER THAN THE STANDARD SEMI?

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>> YES, MA'AM. IT IS ALL APPROVED.

>> OKAY. AND THEN THE QUESTION ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY, DID YOU GET THAT ANSWERED?

>> THIS PROPERTY WAS ZONED OFF WHEN IT WAS IN THE BETHEL TOWNSHIP, IT WAS BASICALLY THEIR VERSION OF I ONE, AND THEN IT WAS ANNEXED IN THE EARLY 2000. AND THEN THE CITY PLANNING STAFF AT THAT TIME INITIATED A REZONING TO PLAN INDUSTRIAL, A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES ALONG THE 40 HAVE BEEN ANNEXED INTO THE CITY AROUND 2006, 2004-2006. THIS WAS REZONED IN 2006 TO PLAN INDUSTRIAL, IT WAS NEVER A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN ESTABLISHED FOR THIS PROPERTY, READING THROUGH THE MINUTES IN THE TRANSCRIPTS OF BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND CITY COUNCIL, IT WAS FELT THAT PROVIDED THE GREATEST LEVEL OF PROTECTION BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE OF THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR FUTURE USE. AND AT THE TIME WHAT I COULDN'T TELL FROM THE DRAWINGS THAT WERE ATTACHED TO THE CASE RECORD, THIS AREA WAS REALLY THE DRIVEWAY FOR THAT BOUNDARY INDUSTRIAL BUILDING THAT WAS JUST TO THE EAST OF IT.

>> OKAY. THOSE WERE THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD WRITTEN DOWN. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS -- IT'S TOO BAD THE RESIDENTS ARE NOT HERE, BECAUSE I AM SURE THESE ANSWERS

GENERATED MORE QUESTIONS. >> I HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS I COULD NOT ATTEND THE LAST ONE, THE THERE IS A MEETING ON THE 14TH.

WE HAVE A POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE COMMUNITY, I REACHED OUT VIA PHONE CALLS, TEXTS, I GOT A TEXT BACK SAYING SORRY I HAVE BEEN BUSY, WHEN CAN I REACH OUT TO YOU? I SAID I AM AVAILABLE 24/7, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS UNTIL WE FIND A RESOLUTION AND I NEVER HEARD BACK AFTER THAT.

HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT MULTIPLE TIMES VIA PHONE CALL AND TEXT

MESSAGE. >> I'M NOT OPPOSED TO MOVING INTO ANOTHER READING, THIS BODY CAN DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

DO YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION AARON? >> IT'S ALREADY GOING TO SECOND READING. COUNCIL JUST HAS TO DECIDE THEIR

COURSE OF ACTION. >> IT REALLY MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO ME ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I WILL TELL YOU I WILL BE ON VACATION MONDAY SO I WON'T BE HERE FOR THE SECOND READING IF THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU MAYOR, CAN YOU AGAIN TELL ME THE ESTIMATED LENGTH AND THE WIDTH OF YOUR

SEMI-TRAILERS? >> LENGTHWISE RANGES FROM OUR SMALL SETUP ABOUT 60 FEET, 65 FEET OVERALL LENGTH, THE TOW TRACTOR, AND OUR BIGGEST ONE WOULD BE 180.

OUR OTHER ONE, OVERALL LENGTH WOULD BE THE HAULING OF ONE WOULD BE AROUND 120, 130 FEET. BUT IF WE WERE TO TRANSPORT THAT EMPTY, RECONSTRUCT THE COMPONENTS UP ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE TRUCK TRACTOR AND THREE AXLES CONNECTED, AND TO THE JEEP IT'S CONNECTING THE TRAILER PARK WHERE THE LOAD SITS ON UNDER THE MAIN DECK OF THE TRAILER THERE'S ANOTHER HITCH WHERE THERE IS THIS THING CALLED THE BOOSTER WHICH IS ANOTHER THREE AXLES.

THIS IS SO IF WE HAVE A LOAD WE CAN TAKE IT DOWN AND TAKE THE BOOSTER OFF AND STACK BOTH OF THEM ON THE DECK MAKING IT A MUCH SHORTER, AROUND A 70 FEET. I WAS SET UP AS CONVENIENT AND UNIQUE IN THE SENSE, NO ORDINARY DRIVEN OR PRODUCE PEOPLE THAT DELIVER TO STORES, WE CAN MAKE TIGHTER CORNERS AND MANEUVER MUCH BETTER THAN THEM BECAUSE ALL OF OUR TIRES ARE STEERABLE TIRES. THEY CAN STAND STILL AND WITH A REMOTE CONTROL IT WITH A 90-DEGREE TURN.

>> HOW WIDE ARE THE TRAILERS? >> WE HAVE SOME 12 FEET, SEVEN WIDE. MAYBE ANOTHER 14 OR SO.

>> WHEN I ASKED YOU, A TYPICAL TRAILER IS 50 FEET LONG AND ONLY 8 FEET WIDE. I FEEL LIKE YOU ARE OVERSIZE FOR

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OUR ROADS. >> WE ARE OVERSIZE, THAT'S WHY WE INVESTED MONEY TO HAVE THE ASSET BASED PILOT CALLS, THOSE CARS DRIVE UP FRONT AND BEHIND THE EQUIPMENT SAYING MAKE WAY AND MAKE IT SAFE FOR EVERYBODY ON THE ROADS.

>> WE WILL GO INTO VERY TINY ROADS FROM NORTH OF HUBER HEIGHTS UP 40, THEY ARE NOT THAT WIDE.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WILL BE SHOCKED AND AMAZED THAT TURNS YOU CAN MAKE. I HAVE VIDEOS I CAN BRING MONDAY, THESE INDUSTRIAL TRANSFORMERS DON'T GO TO A BIG AREA. THEY GO TO SMALL AREAS LIKE OFF

THE BEATEN PATH. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT VIDEO, THANK YOU MAYOR I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU MAYOR. WE ASKED ABOUT THE LENGTH OF THE TRUCK, MY QUESTION IS MORE RELATED TO HOW TALL THESE TRANSFORMERS ARE ONCE THEY ARE PUT ON THE PROPERTY, HOW TALL ARE THEY AND CAN THEY BE SEEN FROM THE PROPERTIES? AGAIN IF I WAS SPENDING $450,000 ON A HOUSE I WOULD NOT WANT TO LOOK OUT MY BACKYARD TO SEE ALL THESE TOWERING INDUSTRIES GOING ON BEHIND ME. HOW TALL IS THAT?

>> THEY CAN RANGE IN HEIGHT FROM 80 FEET TO 12, 13 FEET TALL.

WE ARE OPEN TO ANY AND ALL SOLUTIONS THAT MAY BE POSITIONED SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THE YARD SO IT'S LESS VISIBLE AND PRESENTED THE RESOLUTION THAT ISN'T JUST A BIG METAL PIECE.

>> OKAY THANK YOU. >> ON THE IDEA OF A WALL VERSUS TREES THAT YOU CAN SEE THROUGH, DO WE HAVE AN IDEA -- DO WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT THAT BARRIER MAY LOOK LIKE, WHAT MATERIAL,

THE TYPE OF STRUCTURE TO KEEP? >> WE DID NOT GIVE THE MATERIAL DISCUSSION YET WITH THE APPLICANT, WHEN I EXPRESSED THE CONCERN ABOUT THAT, WHAT THE APPLICANT DECIDED, NUMEROUS TIMES IS THEY WILL MAKE IT ANYTHING WE WANT TO WORK.

SO I THINK WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE HEIGHT, ELEVATION FROM THE BACKYARD LIKE ADJACENT HOUSES TOWARD THE ELEVATION IS FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE, MY GUT TELLS ME WE WILL DO A SOLID PACK SOME KIND OF SOLID FENCING THE, THAT IS A PRETTY DARN TALL FENCE. MAYBE IT IS A MIXTURE OF SOME VARIETY THAT IS PLANTED TEN OR SO FEET AT PLANTING, MIXED WITH A FENCE THAT IS CLOSER TO THE APPLICANT'S HOUSE.

THOSE WERE THE DETAILS WE ARE GOING TO WORK OUT, IF IT MADE IT

PAST THIS BODY. >> SO I THINK THE ISSUE HERE, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE THINGS AND THE QUESTIONS IN THE REPORT WERE ANSWERED, RESOLVED, BUT I THINK WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO, LOCATION.

AND I UNDERSTAND YOU ALREADY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY? YOU MAY GUESS I'VE ALREADY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, I LOOKED INTO IT, WITHIN A MILE RADIUS OF THAT LOCATION, EAST WEST NORTH SOUTH, THERE'S ABOUT 20 TERMINALS, FEDEX, SOMEBODY ELSE THAT HAS A PROPERTY DOING REPAIRS, WITHIN A MILE RADIUS

THAT IS 20 OF THEM. >> YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING DOWN NEAR GIBSON DRIVE, AREAS -- NOT AROUND HOUSES OR ANY CONCERN LIKE MORE OF A RURAL AREA. I THINK THAT IS THE BIG ISSUE THAT I HAVE OUTSIDE OF THESE OTHER THINGS IS THAT IT'S JUST THE PROPERTY, IT IS CLOSE TO -- THOSE HOMES BACK THERE OF THAT CUL DE SAC, THEY WERE THERE FIRST TWO PROBABLY SOME -- IT'S A MATTER OF DOES THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY MAKE SENSE FOR YOUR BUSINESS THAT CLOSE TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE BOUGHT THEIR

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RESIDENTIAL HOMES THERE. AND IS THERE SOMEPLACE ELSE IN THE CITY THAT MAKES SENSE FOR YOUR BUSINESS TO BE RATHER THAN ON THE BACKSIDE OF PEOPLE'S PERSONAL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

THAT IS MY NUMBER 1 CONCERN. I THINK YOU KNOW, PROBABLY THE CONCERN OF EVERYBODY ON THIS COUNCIL, OUTSIDE OF SOME OTHER QUESTIONS, CERTAINLY I THINK THE BIGGEST CONCERN WAS THE WHOLE IDEA OF THE RUNOFF. COULD WE TALK ABOUT WATER ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST THING.

BUT IT STILL COMES DOWN TO THAT THE REASON THAT THIS WAS NEVER REZONED, WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT NO MATTER WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS WERE TO COME ON THAT PROPERTY LATER ON DOWN THAT ROAD, IT HAD TO COME BACK BEFORE THIS COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

KNOWING THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE HOUSES AND RESIDENTIAL FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. THAT IS IN MY MIND WHY I AM SO TRYING TO RECONCILE THE MOST OUTSIDE OF ALL THE OTHER ISSUES AND QUESTIONS. WE CAN ENGINEER A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND TALK ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE TRAILERS AND HOW GREAT THE DRIVERS ARE AND THE SIZE OF THE TRANSFORMERS, ALL THOSE THINGS CAN BE RESOLVED BUT WHAT CANNOT BE RESOLVED IS THE LOCATION OF THAT PROPERTY LIKE YOUR BUSINESS TYPE, NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THAT IS THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE TO COME THAT I STILL HAVE NOT SATISFIED OR WORKED OUT TO COME.

>> WHAT IS THE FREQUENCY OF SEMIS THAT WOULD BE COMING IN AND HOW MANY WOULD BE GOING OUT? LIKE PER WEEK?

>> I CANNOT SAY. WE ALSO HAVE A REPAIR SHOP, SO HOW MANY COMING IN AND OUT I CANNOT [UNCLEAR]

>> IN A BUSINESS PLAN OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING YOU HAVE NO ESTIMATE OF WHAT'S COMING IN AND WHAT'S COMING OUT IN A BUSINESS

PLAN? >> I CANNOT ESTIMATE AT THIS POINT. I CAN SPEAK TO THE TRUCKS AND TRAILERS BUT MAYBE [UNCLEAR] BUT REGARDING THE VOLUME, IT COULD

BE ONE OR 100, I'M NOT SURE. >> OKAY.

>> AND THE MAYOR I JUST WANTED TO SAY I'M COMPLETELY OPEN TO DOING FENCING, TREE LINING. I WANT TO MAKE IT BEAUTIFUL AS WELL, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE SOME MACHINERY INDUSTRIAL PLANT CAME HERE AND OCCUPYING THE PROPERTY.

I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN BEING NEXT TO HOW, BUT IT'S ALSO [UNCLEAR] IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO A COFFEE SHOP, SOMEBODY WILL SAY THEY DON'T WANT IT IN MY BACKYARD AND SAY COFFEE SHOP OR PARKING LOT. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT BUT I KNOW THIS IS MORE I GUESS AGGRESSIVE, IT'S TRUCKING BUT IT'S JUST WHAT THE PROPERTY IS I GUESS. GURBANOV SEEMS TO BE THE MAIN ISSUE, I WILL WORK WITH ENGINEERING TO RESOLVE THAT, AND REGARDING ANY GREENERY, HOW TALL IT HAS TO BE, HOW MUCH GREENERY, THE FENCE, I'M OPEN TO THAT AS WELL.

>> SCOTT? >> COUPLE QUESTIONS I HAVE, I DID NOT PICK UP WHAT YOU JUST SAID, ARE YOU GOING TO BE A REPAIR SHOP FOR OTHER SEMIS AND TRUCK DRIVERS BESIDE YOURSELF?

>> RIGHT NOW WE ARE NOT SURE, PRIMARILY [UNCLEAR] I EXPRESSED THAT IN THE BEGINNING, HE SAID IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO LET OTHER PEOPLE DO PARKING THERE BECAUSE THERE IS A LACK OF PARKING IN THE HUBER HEIGHTS AREA BUT AS OF NOW IT'S JUST TO

WORK ON EQUIPMENT. >> OKAY.

HOW LONG HAS YOUR BUSINESS BEEN? >> THREE YEARS.

>> WHAT'S THE LONGEVITY AS FAR AS HUBER HEIGHTS? WE HAVE 43 PARKING SPACES, LATER ON TRUCKING STORAGE AREA.

>> YES SO 43 PARKING SPACES BECAUSE I SPOKE WITH HIM BEFOREHAND AND HE SAID IT WOULD BENEFIT THE CITY TO I GUESS PROVIDE PARKING FOR TRUCKING COMPANIES AND WHATNOT NEARBY, BUT WE DON'T REALLY NEED 43 SPOTS UNLESS WE EXPAND OUR COMPANY, BUT AFTER THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY [UNCLEAR]

>> AND WHAT IS YOUR LONGEVITY FOR BEING AN HUBER HEIGHTS?

>> LONGEVITY? FOREVER, AS LONG AS THE COMPANY LASTS. WE LIKE THE AREA.

WE ACTUALLY PARK OFF OF THE 202, MAYBE .2 MILES AWAY, ALL OF OUR

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SETUPS, TRUCKS, TRACTORS, EVERYTHING, MAYBE ONE MINUTE

AWAY. >> GIBSON?

>> YES. >> THAT IS ALL I HAVE MAYOR

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MAYOR.

IS THERE ANY SCENARIO LIKE AN LTL OR ANYTHING, WHERE YOU ARE HAVING DELIVERIES AND YOUR PICKUP TRUCK HAS TO WAIT ON THE

STREET? >> NO WE ALREADY -- THIS WON'T BE A CROSS-DOCKING FOR EXAMPLE, PEOPLE COME DROP STUFF OF, ITS STORAGE FOR OUR OWN TRANSFORMERS AND WHATNOT, EVERYTHING WILL BE DONE WITHIN THE FACILITY AND WITHIN THE PROPERTY.

>> OKAY. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> THANK YOU MAYOR. AGAIN, NO IDEA OF WHAT THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF TRIPS PER WEEK PER MONTH WILL BE OR MAXIMUM

NUMBER OF TRIPS? >> IF WE DO NO OUTSIDE LIKE SERVICES AS A REPAIR SHOP I WOULD SAY MAXIMUM TRUCKS WOULD TRAVEL TEN TIMES A MONTH. WE HAVE EIGHT TRUCKS CURRENTLY, TWO MORE IN ORDER, MY GUYS PRETTY MUCH STAY OUT FOR A MONTH AND A HALF, THEY COME OUT BACK FOR MAYBE A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AND GO BACK OUT ON THE ROAD. MY TRUCKS, MAYBE TEN TIMES A

MONTH. >> AND THEN TRANSFERRING, TAKING LET'S SAY TRANSFORMER FROM TRUCK A AND PUTTING IT ONTO TRUCK LET

IT BE? >> THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN ON OUR SIDE, IT WOULD HAPPEN ON OUR SIDE IS MY TRUCK A BRINGS IT IN, IT STAYS HERE FOR MONTHS, MAYBE A YEAR, AND THEN WHENEVER THE CUSTOMER AT THE END IS READY TO RECEIVE IT, WE WOULD TAKE OUR TRUCK, LOADED BACK UP, AND TRANSPORTED BACK THAT WAY.

IT WON'T BE TRUCK TO TRUCK SCENARIO.

>> WHAT KIND OF LIFTING EQUIPMENT WILL YOU USE?

CRANES? >> CRANES ARE A BIG NO NO, WE HAVE A DRAG AND SLIDE TRUCK -- DRAG AND SLIDE -- IT JACKS UP THE LOAD AND SLIDES IT ACROSS. THERE IS NO CRANE INVOLVED, MINIMAL TO NO SOUND. IF WE CAN USE A CRANE TANK WE WILL USE A JACK END SLIDE, LITERALLY JUST PEOPLE COMING

WITH METAL AND JACKS. >> TO YOUR STORMWATER ENGINEER HERE, HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY GUESSTIMATE AS TO THE SIZE OF THE RETENTION BAYS THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO PUT IN THERE?

>> WE KIND OF ALLOTTED OUT THE SITE PLAN, I THINK THE CONCEPT IS MORE THAN ADEQUATE. THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT OUR ADVANTAGE FOR THIS BASIN AS WELL BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF ROOM FOR STORAGE. WE HAVEN'T GONE AND DONE THE SURVEY AND STUFF LIKE THAT LIKE OTHER THAN SEEING [UNCLEAR]

>> AND YOU ARE CERTAINLY AWARE OF THE PROBLEMS THEY ARE HAVING?

>> WE ARE AWARE BASED OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS YES.

>> THANK YOU. THIS WOULD PROBABLY TO AARON AARON HAS CONTACT WITH OTHERS REGARDING WHAT MIGHT BE NECESSARY FOR THEM TO HAVE THIS ACCESS ON THE 40TH.

>> NOT BY ME NO. >> DOES THE APPLICANT?

>> PER SE LET'S SAY I PICKED UP AND MADE THIS SITE MY DELIVERY FACILITY, AND [UNCLEAR] OBVIOUSLY IT MIGHT DEPEND IF I'M DOING A HEAVIER LOAD OR A TALLER LOAD, BUT I READ ABOUT A 14 OR 15 ♪ ♪ [UNCLEAR]

>> THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, AS OF RIGHT NOW, THIS IS ALREADY SCHEDULED TO BE FOR A SECOND READING AT MONDAY'S MEETING, SO WHEN THIS COMES UP WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, MORE PUBLIC FEEDBACK AND PUBLIC COMMENTARY. COUNCIL CAN EITHER AT THAT POINT IN TIME DECIDE TO TAKE A VOTE, MAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND, TO

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MOVE THIS TO A THIRD READING TO GET MORE INFORMATION AND TALK TO PEOPLE. WE'RE WELL WITHIN THE PROCESS.

SO IT'S I THINK FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED BUT WE ARE ALSO ARE RESPECTING YOUR TIME AND WE KNOW THAT [UNCLEAR].

YOU WILL GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS ONCE WE HAVE ALL THE

INFORMATION THAT WE NEED. >> YEAH, I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS I'M HEARING A LITTLE DIFFERENT IS THAT THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATION I REMEMBER YOU DID NOT MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT STORAGE. AND HERE, 43 PARKING SPACES.

AND THEY MIGHT BE THERE FOR MONTHS, OR A YEAR, HOW MANY WILL YOU HAVE -- THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE MOSTLY MAINTENANCE BUILDING.

THE MISSION OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS --

>> I THINK HE SAYS THE 43 SPACES WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF IT BUT THEY TOOK THEM OUT BECAUSE HE ONLY HAS EIGHT TRUCKS, WITH TWO MORE IN ORDER. I WOULD NOT EXPECT TO SEE ANYTHING ON THAT PROPERTY THAT HAS SPACE OUTSIDE OF MAINTAINING HIS OWN FLEET, NOT PARKING ANYTHING ELSE.

>> HOW MANY TRANSFORMERS CAN YOU -- SCORING IN A YEAR? I MEAN -- DO YOU HAVE A VIDEO TOO TALKING ABOUT THE OPERATION

THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. >> I WILL BRING YOU A VIDEO OF THE STEERING CAPABILITY, AND REGARDING OUR TRUCKS, TRAILERS, THE CRANE OFF-LOAD TRUCK WHATEVER IS NEEDED I CAN PROVIDE

THAT. >> THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

>> LIKE I SAID IN THE BEGINNING I HAVE BEEN WORKING PRETTY CLOSELY TO SEE WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO REGARDING THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, TO MAKE THE BEST CHANCES FOR THE PARKING AREA, AND THE CITY IS IN NEED OF PARKING SPOTS.

OUR OWN OPERATORS, THERE'S 43 SPOTS, AND THEN I WAS TOLD THAT YOU GUYS WOULD NOT WANT THAT SO THAT'S WHY WE WON'T HAVE OUTSIDE

PARKING OUTSIDE OF OUR OWN. >> THERE IS GREEN SPACE THERE

THAT WAS MY POINT. >> I UNDERSTAND.

>> CAN YOU SHARE THE VIDEO TO COUNCIL?

>> HE SENT A NUMBER OF VIDEOS THAT SHOW MOVEMENTS, HOW THEY ARTICULATED THE TRAILERS WORK AND I WILL FORWARD THAT TO TONY

SO YOU CAN PASS THAT ALONG. >> OKAY AWESOME.

[INAUDIBLE] >> THERE IS ALSO THE VIDEOS AND AERIAL SHOTS OF THEM BEING LIFTED BY CRANES, AND THEIR TRAILERS BEING STACKED UP. THERE'S ALSO VIDEO OF WHEN WE DELIVERED THE TRANSFORMER TO CLEVELAND, THERE WAS A POWER OUTAGE SO WE BROUGHT THAT OVER TO THEM.

>> I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN THROUGH A LOT HERE ANSWERING QUESTIONS, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITHIN THE SITE THAT YOU HAVE BOUGHT TO TRY TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS SATISFIED. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WHAT YOU PUT IN TO GET TO THIS POINT. FOR ME IT'S ABOUT THE RESIDENTS.

I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO WORK.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY WE MOVE ON TO THE SECOND READING ON MONDAY AND DECIDE TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT, GET THE VIDEO IN THE MEANTIME AND BE AVAILABLE FOR ANYBODY HERE TO SEE WHO HASN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IT.

>> SHOULD I FORWARD THOSE? >> GET THOSE TO AARON AND WE WILL MAKE SURE -- OKAY THAN THANK YOU.

OKAY NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 4 WHICH IS ADJOURNMENT, THERE IS NOTHING ELSE. WE GOT THROUGH THE

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