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I SHALL CALL THE MEETING THE CITY
[ AGENDA CITY PLANNING COMMISSION City Governance Center - Council Chambers 6151 Brandt Pike August 11, 2026 6:00 P.M. ]
OF HUBER HEIGHTS PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER.SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. JOHNSON? HERE.
IS ANYONE ELSE ON THE, AND HEARING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO CITIZEN'S COMMENTS.
THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR ANY CITIZEN'S COMMENTS NOT PERTAINING TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
I'LL MOVE ON TO SWEARING OF WITNESSES.
I ANNOUNCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RULES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ANYONE WHO MAY WISH TO SPEAK OR GIVE TESTIMONY REGARDING THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN.
SO I ASK EVERYONE TO STAND, RAISE THEIR RIGHT HAND AND RESPOND.
TO THE FOLLOWING OATH, DO YOU HEREBY SWEAR OR AFFIRM ON THE THREAT OF PERJURY TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? I DO.
I ALSO ASK ANYONE THAT WAS WISHING TO SPEAK TONIGHT TO STEP TO THE PODIUM AND SPELL THEIR NAME, UH, FOR THE RECORD AND GIVE THEIR NAME WHEN THE APPROPRIATE TIME COMES.
OUR FIRST ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS IS DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE APPLICANT IS OAKS TREE DEVELOPMENT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR 199 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
OLD TROY PIKE, DDP 26 DASH 21.
ALL RIGHT, SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO GO OVER WITH YOU TODAY.
PULL IT TOWARDS YOU A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
I'M ECHOING THIS WAY, SO IT WAS POPPING STRAIGHT BACK AT ME.
UH, SO TODAY WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE MIAMI BLUFF SUBDIVISION.
UH, IT IS BEING BROUGHT TO US BY OAK TREE DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S LOCATED AT 5 0 0 1 OLD TROY PIKE.
IT IS 58.263 ACRES AND, UM, IS CURRENTLY PLAN, UH, ZONED PLAN, COMMERCIAL PLANNED RESIDENTIAL, NOT COMMERCIAL.
SO THE SUMMARY TO SUMMARIZE THIS APPLICATION, THE DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSED AS MIAMI BLUFFS, A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UM, THAT IS CURRENTLY AN EXISTING LAND USE OF AGRICULTURAL AND RETAIL.
THE APPLICABLE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY CODE CHAPTERS ARE THE ONES THAT FOLLOW.
AND THE CORRESPONDENCE WE RECEIVED AT THE TIME OF THE STAFF REPORT, UH, WAS NONE ON EITHER SIDE.
THE REQUEST IS FOR 99 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
LOOKING AT THE ADJACENT ZONING TO THE NORTH R FIVE, UH, TO THE SOUTH ACROSS THE BORDER INTO THE CITY OF RIVERSIDE IS AGRICULTURAL TO THE EAST IS A MIX OF B ONE, B TWO, AND R FOUR.
AND TO THE WEST IS AS IS AGRICULTURAL AS WELL.
THE SUBDIVISION LAYOUT PROPOSES 199 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, EACH 45 BY 1 25.
SO ABOUT, UM, 5,600 SQUARE FEET.
AND THERE ARE TWO POINTS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF OLD TROY PIKE AND THREE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT FACILITIES.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED A SUB STREET FOR A POTENTIAL MAYBE CONNECTION, UM, TO VITECH DRIVE ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE SITE.
UM, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, VITECH WILL NOT BE, UM, CONNECTED AND HAS NOT PROPOSED AT THIS TIME.
THE CURRENT RESIDENTIAL SETBACKS, UH, FOR THESE PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO BE, UH, 25 FEET IN THE FRONT, 30 FEET IN THE REAR, AND FIVE FEET ON EACH SIDE.
AND THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING 18.09 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE, WHICH DOES EXCEED THE REQUIRED MINIMUM OF 14.6 ACRES.
UH, THE PRESERVED, UH, IT IS TO BE PRESERVED AS OPEN GREEN SPACE AND IS MOST LIKELY GOING TO BE USED FOR, UM, A LIFESTYLE PRODUCT SITUATION.
THEY ARE PLANNING ON PUTTING SOME SORT OF AMENITY IN AS WELL.
THE PLAN INCLUDES ESSENTIAL RECREATIONAL AREA WITH TWO PICKLEBALL COURTS INTEGRATED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S PEDESTRIAN NETWORK.
MOST OF THE SITE IS RELATIVELY FLAT AGRICULTURAL LAND THROUGH THE SOUTHWESTERN WOOD, OR THOUGH THE SOUTHWESTERN WOODEN AREA HAS MEANINGFUL TOPOGRAPHIC VARIATION DRAINING TOWARDS THE GREAT MIAMI RIVER, UM, THEY HAVE ALREADY MADE US VERY AWARE THAT THEY ARE TAKING VERY CAREFUL DEDICATION IN PRESERVING AND KEEPING THIS, UM, PROPER AND TO NOT FALL APART, WHICH IS KIND OF WHY THEY HAVE THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, UH,
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POSITIONED THE WAY THEY DO, UH, FOR THE UTILITIES, UH, WATER SERVICE WILL COME FROM EXISTING WATER MAINS ALONG OLD CHOI PIKE AND SANITARY SEWERS WILL CONNECT TO AN EXISTING MANHOLE ON THE SOUTHWESTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.WASTEWATER WILL ULTIMATELY BE CONVEYED TO THE TRI-CITIES WASTEWATER SYSTEM, UH, FOR THE ACTUAL SIGNAGE AND LANDSCAPING.
A GATEWAY SIGNAGE IS PROPOSED AT TWO PRIMARY ENTRANCES ON THE EAST SIDE WITH BLACK ALUMINUM FENCING AND STONE COLUMNS.
ENTRANCE LANDSCAPING INCLUDES JUNIPER, WHICH GRASS, FOTH GORILLA, AND LONDON PLANT TREES, WHICH ARE ALL LOCAL AND VERY COMMON IN OUR AREA.
AND THE SOUTH GATEWAY ENTRANCE, UH, WILL ALSO INCLUDE A CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS SIGN FOR, UM, THE CITY'S SOUTHERN JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARY.
THE PROPOSED, UH, GROSS RESIDENTIAL DENSITY COMPLIES WITH THE RECOMMENDED MAXIMUM OF FIVE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
THE TWO CONNECTIONS TO OLD CHOI PIKE PROVIDE ADEQUATE ACCESS FOR RESIDENTS EMERGENCY SERVICES AND NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIVITY.
THE 18 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE DOES EXCEED OUR REQUIRED 14 ACRE MINIMUM AND INCLUDES A PICKLEBALL AMENITY AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS.
PUBLIC UTILITIES ARE AVAILABLE AND ADEQUATE SUBJECT TO CITY ENGINEER.
APPROVAL ON IMPROVEMENTS AND ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING WERE ADDED, UH, FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS TO BUFFER ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, UH, TO THE WEST AND TO THE NORTH.
UH, THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, FROM, FOR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM THE FIRE DIVISION DEVELOPMENT MUST COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE OHIO FIRE CODE AND HUBER HEIGHTS CONFIDED ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS.
AND, UH, THE PROPOSED SECONDARY EMERGENCY ACCESS DOES SATISFY REQUIREMENTS FOR DEVELOPMENTS WITH NO MORE, UH, WITH DEVELOPMENTS MORE THAN 30 DWELLINGS.
AND, UH, THE CITY ENGINEER DID STATE THAT THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE WARRANTED AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME.
SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR MIAMI BLUFF SUBDIVISION, UH, WITH TWO CONDITIONS ON IT.
THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS APPROVED BY THE ORDINANCE NUMBER 26 0 27 68 THAT GO INTO EFFECT OR WENT INTO EFFECT ON AUGUST 13TH, 2026.
ALL SOUTHWAY GATEWAY FEATURES SHALL BE SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE CITY ENGINEER AND PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
UH, SO THERE ARE THREE THINGS YOU GUYS CAN DO.
YOU GUYS CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION WITH OR WITHOUT CONDITIONS, RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION OR TABLE THE APPLICATION IF YOU WISH TO RECEIVE MORE INFORMATION.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MS. VARGO? UM, I NOTE THAT YOU'RE, UM, NOT GOING TO CONNECT TO VITECH MM-HMM
IS THIS GONNA BE IN PHASES AND IS THAT WHY THAT THIS IS NOT PHASE ONE OR SO? WE ARE NOT GOING TO CONNECT IT TO VITECH.
WE HAVE NO PLAN TO CONNECT IT, UH, TO VITECH AT THE TIME.
UM, IT IS GOING TO INTRUDE ON A RESIDENTIAL'S PROPERTY, SO WE WILL NOT BE DOING THAT AT THE MOMENT.
UM, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH EGRESS AND, AND EXITS? YES.
UM, THE FIRE MARSHAL DID GO THROUGH AND HE DOES APPROVE OF THE PLAN.
HE THINKS THAT IT IS ADEQUATE FOR BOTH ALL RESIDENTS AND ANY EMERGENCY SERVICES THAT NEED TO GET THROUGH AS WELL.
DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE A CONNECTION TO VITECH IN THE FUTURE, OR IS THAT NOT ANYTIME SOON? NO.
OFF THE TABLE? NOT ANYTIME SOON.
AND, UH, THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, IS YOU HAVE NO PHOTOS OF THE SIGNAGE THAT WILL BE THERE.
DID THEY NOT HAVE ANY? UM, SO THEY HAD BASIC, UM, SIGNS PUT UP AND EVERYTHING.
IT'S GOING TO BE A METAL, UM, BLACK METAL WITH STONE, UM, COLUMNS AND NOT, BUT YES.
YEAH, I DON'T, THEY DID NOT PROVIDE US WITH ANY PICTURES.
THEY JUST IN, UH, PROVIDED US WITH DRAWINGS.
UM, AND IT'S A, IT DOESN'T LOOK, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE A METAL FENCE.
UH, LIKE THE STANDARD ONES YOU SEE AROUND BIGGER SUBDIVISIONS.
I CAN'T FIND YOU, I CAN'T FIND YOU PICTURES.
UM, WE ARE IN COORDINATION WITH THEM BECAUSE WE WANT IT TO MATCH, UH, HUBER HEIGHTS AS WELL, SINCE THEY'RE PUTTING A HUBER HEIGHTS SIGN ON THERE.
UM, SO THAT HAS BEEN ONE THAT WE WERE IN VERY CLOSE WORKS WITH THEM.
UM, I DO HAVE PICTURES OF LIKE THE DRAWINGS, UM, THAT I CAN SEND TO YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
SO THE, THE, UH, LAST PAGE OF THIS SHEET, UM, SHOWS A SEVEN FOOT TALL, UM, ENTRYWAY SIGN THAT WOULD BE,
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UH, NEAR LESTON.IT'S KIND OF YOUR STANDARD SUBDIVISION ENTRANCE SIGN.
YEAH, I LOOKED AT ALL THOSE, BUT I DIDN'T SEE THIS.
YEAH, IT'S THE VERY LAST PAGE.
I KNOW THE CITY ENGINEER SAID THERE'S NO NEED FOR A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT LESTON, BUT IF YOU'VE DRIVEN OLD TROY PIKE FROM TAYLORSVILLE TO NEED MORE, EVERY CROSS STREET HAS A LIGHT.
SO YOU GO TAYLORSVILLE, LONGFORD, CHAMBERSBURG, FISHBURG POWELL POWELL ACTUALLY HAS TWO.
AND I WOULD SAY THE SECOND ONE BY DONATOS IS NOT NEEDED AT ALL.
AND THEN IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO NEED MORE.
LESTON WILL BE THE ONLY CROSS STREET THAT DOES NOT HAVE A LIGHT.
YOU LOOK AT BRANT PIKE, TAYLORSVILLE LONGFORD CHAMBERSBURG, MIAMI VALLEY WAY, FISHBURG POWELL, NEBRASKA.
NEBRASKA TO ME IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THE LESTON.
I KNOW NEBRASKA GOING THAT DIRECTION.
I DON'T KNOW WHICH DIRECTION THAT IS, WHAT HAS SOME BUSINESSES, BUT THERE ARE PROBABLY LESS THAN A HUNDRED APARTMENTS BACK THERE, MOST OF WHICH HAVE THAT EXIT OUT TO BELL MOUNTAIN.
SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THAT LIGHT IS NECESSARY.
I DON'T THINK THAT CAN BE THE ONLY STREET THAT DOES NOT GET A TRAFFIC LIGHT THAT CROSSES A FOUR FIVE LANE ROAD BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE MIDDLE TURN LANE.
HE SAID BASED ON CURRENT TRAFFIC PATTERNS, HE FELT THAT THE LIGHT WAS NOT NECESSARY AND, UM, COULD IMPEDE TRAFFIC MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
UM, AS I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION THAT HE DOES.
BECAUSE I, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA, IF THEY'RE HEADING TO DAYTON, THEY ACTUALLY GO UP KITTRIDGE TO BRANT PIKE MM-HMM.
AND GO FURTHER BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MAKE THE LEFT ON LESTON AND THEY DON'T WANT FIGHT IT.
AND THE OTHER ISSUE I HAVE IS IF YOU'RE LIVING IN THAT SUBDIVISION AND YOU WANT TO SHOP IN HUBER HEIGHTS, EAT AT OUR RESTAURANTS, GO TO OUR CONCERT VENUES, YOU HAVE TO MAKE A LEFT.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE THE LEFT.
IT'S GONNA BE EASIER FOR THEM TO TURN RIGHT AND GO TO DAYTON AND GO TO DOWNTOWN DAYTON RESTAURANTS AND DOWNTOWN DAYTON ACTIVITIES THAN IT IS TO TURN LEFT AND SPEND THEIR TAX MONEY INTO HUBER HEIGHTS.
I THINK AARON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? YEAH.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS TO, TO REMEMBER OR THINK ABOUT IN OUR, IN OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS ALL OF THOSE STREETS THAT, THE CROSS STREETS THAT YOU HAVE MENTIONED, POWELL PAL, UM, FISHBURG CHAMBERSBURG, THOSE ARE ALL EITHER COLLECTORS OR ARTERIALS.
LESTER IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET.
THESE WILL BE RESIDENTIAL STREETS, AND THEY'RE NOT MEANT TO COLLECT ALL OF THOSE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LESTER IS THE SAME AS, YOU KNOW, MURDOCH AND MACON, UM, PENTON OR, BUT AGAIN, NONE OF THEM HAVE A CONNECTOR ON THE OTHER SIDE.
LESTER LUTON WILL, LUTON IS GOING TO CONNECT TO THE TWO, TO THE 200 HOMES THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO APPROVE OR DENY, WHICH IS GONNA HAVE APPROXIMATELY 400 CARS TO TWO CARS PER HOME.
UM, AND TO ME THAT, AGAIN, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN NEBRASKA, WHICH IS NOT AN R TIOGA ROAD, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN THE LIGHT AT POWELL.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT, AT THE DONATOS, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING UP.
POWELL AT THE DONATOS RIGHT THERE.
WELL, POWELL GOES ALL THE WAY TO RIP RAP AND KITTRIDGE GOES ALL THE WAY EAST.
I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONNECTING BASICALLY FROM ONE SIDE OF TOWN TO THE OTHER.
AND THIS CONNECTS FIVE CUL-DE-SACS.
AND I, AND I KNOW DISTANCE WISE IT FITS.
YOU LOOK AT EVERY LIGHT COMING ACROSS, THEY'RE ABOUT A ANYWHERE FROM 0.3 TO 0.5 MILES APART FROM EACH OTHER.
AND YOU GO FROM THAT LAST LIGHT AT POWELL TO THE LAST LIGHT AT NEED MORE.
RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE WOULD BE LESTON WITH A LIGHT.
SO IT WOULD NOT BE ANY DIFFERENT SPACING WISE BETWEEN LIGHTS.
SO I'M JUST, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A LIGHT THERE AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT AS A CONDITION.
WE'LL REVISIT THIS WITH, UH, WITH THE ENGINEER.
I MEAN, THE, THE CHALLENGE WHEN LIGHTS AREN'T WARRANTED IS THAT, ESPECIALLY ON A STATE ROUTE LIKE THIS, WHEN IT'S NOT WARRANTED, IT'S ENTIRELY OUR NICKEL.
UM, AND TRAFFIC LIGHTS ARE EXPENSIVE.
IT COULD BE, THE DEVELOPER NICKEL, I THINK HAD THIS ISSUE IN THE PAST FOR THE STATE ROUTES.
IT'S, UH, THE, THE, IT'S EASIER TO GET A LIGHT IF IT'S NOT A STATE ROUTE.
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AND YOU KNOW, THE WAY, THE WAY WE DESIGN TRAFFIC LIGHTS ANYMORE, UM, THEY'RE EASY TO RETROFIT.SO IF THERE DOES BECOME A PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THREE POLES AND, AND A SIGNALS.
IS THAT SOMETHING A DEVELOPER CAN PICK UP? YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT DEVELOPERS ALONG CHAMBERSBURG HAVING TO PICK UP THE WIDENING OF THE ROAD AND SIDEWALKS SO PEOPLE CAN WALK.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S DEVELOPER COULD PICK UP? IS THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT? SO IF, IF THE ENGINEER FEELS IT'S WARRANTED, THEN WE WOULD REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO PAY A SHARE OF THAT.
UM, IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY LIKE, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS ALREADY EXIST, THEY'LL NEED TO BE IMPROVED.
UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA WIDEN OLD TROY PIKE ANY, ANY MORE THAN THAT, UM, THAN IT IS AT THE MOMENT.
UM, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY REVISIT THE, THE QUESTION WITH RUSS.
BUT THROUGH ALL OF OUR CONVERSATIONS, YOU KNOW, 199 HOMES IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS REALLY ISN'T THAT MUCH WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE, THE TRAFFIC, THE TOTAL TRAFFIC LOAD ON OLD TRIP PIKE.
IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN COMING OFF OF LESTON OR OFF OF NEBRASKA.
YOU LOOK AT THAT SIDE OF NEBRASKA, THAT'S MORE HOMES THAN WHAT'S ON NEBRASKA.
AND THERE'S A LIGHT THERE, BEEN THERE SINCE I WAS A LITTLE KID.
I WILL TALK TO, UH, RUSS AGAIN AND, UM, POTENTIALLY CONSIDER IT FOR FUTURE.
UM, IF WE RUN INTO ISSUES IN THE FUTURE, WE SEE LOTS OF RESIDENTIAL COMPLAINTS COMING THROUGH.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN REVISIT AND REDISCUSS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? S FARGO? DO WE KNOW IF A LIGHT IS WARRANTED THERE? IT IS NOT WARRANTED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU.
I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.
ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ZONING CASE? DANIEL EARLS OAK STREET DEVELOPMENT.
8 5 3 4 YANKEE STREET, DAYTON, OHIO.
UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
APPRECIATE YOU, UH, LISTENING TO HALEY'S PRESENTATION.
HOPEFULLY HER FIRST FEW WEEKS HAVE BEEN GOOD, UH, WITH THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
BUT, UH, COUPLE, UH, CONCERNS THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS.
UH, FIRST WITH VITECH, I BELIEVE, UH, WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST IS THAT WE'LL BE DEDICATING THAT RIGHT OF WAY TO THE CITY FOR THE FUTURE CONNECTION.
WE ARE NOT MAKING THAT CONNECTION RIGHT NOW.
UH, LORI BACK HERE IS THE PROPERTY OWNER AND SHE DOES OWN OUT TO OLD TROY.
UH, SO, UH, WE HAVE TRIED WORKING WITH HER IN THE PAST, BUT IT'S HER WISHES THAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT, UH, THAT ACCESS OUT TO OLD TROY.
SO, UH, WE WILL NOT BE MAKING THAT CONNECTION WITH THE, THE SUBDIVISION, UH, PHASES.
WE WILL BE BRINGING OUT BOTH PHASES OR PHASE ONE WILL BE BRINGING OUT BOTH ENTRANCES TO OLD TROY FOR FIRE AND SAFETY.
UM, AND THAT WILL BE ABOUT 70 LOTS WITHIN THE FIRST PHASE.
SO IT ADDRESSES FIRE AND SAFETY'S CONCERNS AND WE'LL BE BRINGING OUT BOTH ENTRANCES IN PHASE ONE.
AND THEN THE ENTRY MONUMENTATION ON THE NORTH ENTRANCE, WE WILL HAVE A STONE COLUMN WITH SIGNAGE.
UH, A NICE, UH, I GUESS PLACARD WITH THE COLUMN AND, UH, UPLIGHTING.
AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE WITH THE GATE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT'S GOING TO SOMEWHAT MIRROR THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF OLD TROY AND HAVE, UH, TWO STONE COLUMNS WITH A GATE IN THE MIDDLE AND THEN SORT OF A PLACARD THAT'S THE HUBER HEIGHTS LOGO.
SO IT LOOKS NICE WHEN PEOPLE ARE ENTERING INTO THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
OTHER THAN THAT, UH, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE, BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, SIR.
WOULD YOU SIGN IN PLEASE? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION? LAURIE KERM SIGN IN.
UM, MS. HAYES MADE MENTION OF AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS APPROVED FOR AUGUST 13TH, 2026, CORRECT? YES.
WHAT IS THAT? UH, THAT WAS JUST THE RULES AND, UM, REGULATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW MOVING FORWARD.
THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT RECORD, YES, IT WAS THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL.
WELL, OF COURSE MY MOST CONCERNING ARGUMENT OR OBJECTION IS A STUBBED OUT STREET
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TO ANOTHER STUBBED OUT STREET.SO THAT I'M KIND OF, AS I'M MOWING UP AND DOWN MY LANE, I'M STARING AT THE IMPENDING WHEEL OF A CITY TO TAKE AWAY MY QUARTER MILE DRIVEWAY THAT I'VE MAINTAINED FOR THE LAST 48 YEARS, MY FAMILY'S PROPERTY.
I THINK THAT THAT'S, IF WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING IT IN NOW OR PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE, THEN WHY DOES THAT HAVE TO BE A PAVED STREET? KIND OF LIKE, AGAIN, ME STANDING IN THE CENTER OF TWO LOADED GUNS ON EITHER SIDE.
IT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN AT VITECH.
AND THE CITY LET ME DOWN, MY FAMILY DOWN ON THAT PART.
SO I'M HERE TO BE AN ADVOCATE FOR THE OTHER PART.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT HAS TO BE A PAVED ROAD RIGHT NOW IF IT CAN JUST BE LANDSCAPED A BLANK LOT.
WE ARE REALLY ONLY GONNA HAVE FIVE FEET IN BETWEEN THESE HOMES.
UM, I HAVE A 60 INCH ZERO TURN MOWER THAT I MAINTAIN MY PROPERTY WITH.
HOW IS THIS GONNA BE MAINTAINED? FIVE FEET BETWEEN, THAT'S 199 HOMES, WHAT POTENTIALLY IS MEETS CODE, BUT JUST SEEMS 199 NEW FRIENDS, I GUESS POTENTIALLY, BUT THAT SEEMS OVERSATURATED FOR THAT AREA.
THAT, AND THEN AGAIN, I WANT SOME KIND OF ASSURANCES THAT, UM, THAT I'M NOT, ONCE AGAIN, WE HAD A, ANOTHER A HUNDRED ONCE IN A HUNDRED YEAR RAIN THAT I ABSORBED WATER, NOT ONLY FROM VITECH THAT I REPEATEDLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, FUSSED WITH AND, AND DEALT WITH.
UM, AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND THEN I GET IT OFF THIS FARM FIELD.
AND FRANK, I'VE ALREADY INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY TO PUT IN DRAINAGE TILE TO WATCH NOW THAT THIS IS GONNA BE DUG UP.
SO I NEED SOME ASSURANCES ALONG THAT WAY.
SO I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER I HAVE TO GET AN ATTORNEY TO TRY AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, VOICE MY SIDE OF THIS ARGUMENT.
I'M NOT OBJECTING TO BEING DEVELOPED, BUT JUST OVERSATURATION, I MEAN FIVE FEET IN BETWEEN.
UNLESS YOU LIVE IN A CONDO OR YOU'RE IN AN APARTMENT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF US HAVE CAN REACH OUT OUR WINDOW AND SHAKE HANDS WITH OUR NEIGHBOR.
OTHER THAN THAT, I WILL, I'VE STATED MY PIECE OVER AND OVER, SO THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ZONING CASE.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE ZONING CASE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT? OAK TREES DEVELOPMENT FOR APPROVAL OF A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION.
PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 5 0 0 1 OLD TROY PIKE, CASE DDP 26 21 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF'S MEMORANDUM DATED JULY 31ST, 2026, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION RECORD ATTACHED THERETO MOVED BY MS. THOMAS.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.
SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. JOHNSON? YES.
DO WE NEED HIM TO SAY WHY? NO.
WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, SO THE APPLICANT WILL REVISE, UH, THE PLANS IN SUBMIT FULL CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS TO, UH, FOR US TO, TO MOVE FORWARD.
NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS A MINOR CHANGE.
THE APPLICANT TEXAS ROADHOUSE, IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A MINOR CHANGE FOR CONSTRUCTION OF 627 SQUARE FOOT EDITION WITHIN THE DINING ROOM, SORRY, WITHIN THE DINING ROOM TO ADD AN EXTRA 48 SEATS AND A TOILET ROOM.
PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 56 11 MARY WAY, MC 26 22.
MS. HAYES A SO, UH, THIS MINOR CHANGE, UM, IS AT THE PROPERTY OF 56 11 MERRILY WAY.
I'M SURE MOST OF US HAVE PROBABLY BEEN THERE.
THE SITE, THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED PC PLANNED COMMERCIAL AND TOTALS 6.5 ACRES.
UH, THE ONLY THING WE WILL ACTUALLY BE LOOKING AT TODAY ARE
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TWO ADDITIONS, UM, THAT ARE GOING TO BE ADDED ON THE NORTH AND THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.SO JUST TO GO OVER A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE APPLICATION, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT NAME IS TEXAS ROADHOUSE DINING ROOM ADDITION.
THE EXISTING LAND USE IS RETAIL.
UM, AND ANY CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED AT THE TIME OF THIS STAFF REPORT WERE ZERO.
UM, THE REQUEST IS CON TO CONSTRUCT A 627 SQUARE FOOT EDITION WITHIN THE DINING ROOM TO ADD AN EXTRA 48 SEATS AND A UNISEX TOILET ROOM IN THE REAR OF THE RESTAURANT.
SO TO UH, GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW, THE EXPANDING THE DINING ROOM WITHIN THE EXISTING TEXAS ROADHOUSE TO HOLD AN ADDITIONAL 48 SEATS.
UM, IT WILL INCORPORATE A UNISEX BATHROOM, UH, RELOCATE FOUR PARKING SPACES WEST OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE OF THE UNISEX BATHROOM.
AND THE SITE IS FLAT WITH NO MAJOR CHANGES PROPOSED ON THE SITE'S LAND.
UM, ON THE RIGHT YOU WILL JUST SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN A MAJOR AND A MINOR CHANGE.
SO OUR ANALYSIS, UM, ON CONFORMANCE WITH PLANNED COMMERCIAL DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS, THE EXISTING RESTAURANT IS PERMITTED TO USE WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
ALL UTILITIES SERVING ARE AT THE SITE ARE UNDERGROUND AND THERE IS NO IMPACT ON THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
THE PROPOSED MATERIALS ARE DESIGNED TO MATCH AT THE EXISTING BUILDING'S ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER AND, AND, UH, LANDSCAPING WILL COVER, UH, THE ORIGINAL LANDSCAPING AND WILL, THEY WILL EVEN REUSE ANY MATERIAL THAT IS CURRENTLY REMOVED.
SO THAT WILL LOOK LIKE RIVER ROCK MULCH OVER A WEED BARRIER WILL BE INSTALLED ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING FOUNDATION.
NO EXISTING TREES WILL BE REMOVED.
DAMAGED LANDSCAPING WILL BE REPLACED IN KIND AND LAWN AREAS WILL REMAIN SLOTTED WITH KENTUCKY BLUEGRASS BLEND.
THERE WERE NO MAJOR COMMENTS FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR THE CITY ENGINEER AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE MINOR CHANGE APPLICATION TO EXPAND THE DINING ROOM AND CONSTRUCT A UNISEX RESTROOM AT THE EXISTING TEXAS ROADHOUSE RESTAURANT LOCATED ON 56 11 MERRILY WAY.
SO ONCE AGAIN, THERE ARE, UH, THREE THINGS YOU CAN DO.
YOU CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE MINOR CHANGE APPLICATION WITH OR WITHOUT CONDITIONS.
RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE MINOR CHANGE APPLICATION OR TABLE THE APPLICATION TO GATHER FURTHER INFORMATION.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO.
MS. VARGO, UM, WHERE THE ROOM ADDITION IS GOING TO BE, NOT THE BATHROOM, BUT THE ROOM ADDITION.
SO, UM, DO YOU HAVE IT IN HERE? I'LL JUST PULL THIS BACK UP.
IS THAT, UM, SO IT'S THE ONE TO THE NORTH.
IT, IT'S NOT TAKING AWAY ANY PARKING PLACES THERE, SO IT'S TAKING AWAY FOUR PARKING SPACES, BUT THEY STILL, UM, ARE AT THEIR CORRECT AMOUNT OF, UM, PARKING SPACES AND A DA REQUIREMENTS WERE NOT IMPACTED.
UM, THE FOUR PARKING SPACES THAT ARE BEING REMOVED ARE IN THE BACK TOWARDS THE EMPLOYEES AREA.
WELL, I THOUGHT THE PARKING SPACES WERE TAKEN FROM THE BATHROOM AREA.
MY QUESTION IS, WERE ARE THERE ANY PARKING SPACES TAKEN FROM THE, UH, ROOM ADDITION? NO.
UM, SO THAT LITTLE AREA IS ACTUALLY ALREADY LANDSCAPED.
IT'S JUST A LITTLE GREEN SPACE IN THE SIDEWALK AREA.
SO THEY ARE JUST EXPANDING OUT AND, UM, THEIR LOT LINES AREN'T CHANGING WHATSOEVER.
NOTHING IS CHANGING OTHER THAN THE, UH, LANDSCAPE IS BEING PUSHED FARTHER OUT.
SO THAT IS ALL SIDEWALK AND LANDSCAPING? YES.
NOPE, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU.
WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC GENERAL ONE.
WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ZONING CASE FOR THE APPLICANT OR RESIDENT IN HEARING NO ONE.
WE WILL CLOSE THAT PORTION OF THE ZONING CASE.
IS THERE A, UM, MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST? GO AHEAD.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
UH, MOTION TO APPROVE MADE BY MR. SCHAPER.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MS. VARGO?
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SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MR. JOHNSON? YES.UH, WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE APPLICANT? WELL, THEY BASICALLY SUBMITTED CONSTRUCTION PLANS TO US, SO WE WILL APPROVE THEM AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL START THE ADDITION VERY SHORTLY.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A REPL, THE APPLICANT, THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A REPL OF 4.047 ACRES.
PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 20 OR 67 0 1 EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD RP 26 DASH 23.
ALL RIGHT, SO TODAY WE ARE LOOKING AT NEWBAR, UH, NEUBAUER PARK REPL.
UH, WE ARE THE OWNER OF, UH, THIS PROPERTY.
THE LOCATION IS AT 67 0 1 EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD.
IT IS NEAR THE NEW APARTMENTS THAT WERE RECENTLY BUILT.
UM, IT IS CURRENTLY 4.047 ACRES LARGE.
SO, UM, THE REQUEST FOR THIS, UM, APPLICATION IS WE WANT TO REPL THE 4.047 ACRES, UM, TO FACILITATE THE SALE OF THE TWO LOTS.
UH, CORRESPONDENCE IN FAVOR IN OPPOSITION, WE DID NOT RECEIVE EITHER.
UM, AND THE EXISTING LAND USE CURRENTLY IS VACANT.
SO WHEN LOOKING AT THE ADJACENT ZONING TO THE NORTH IS R SEVEN TO THE EAST IS P TO THE SOUTH IS PEP AND TO THE WEST IS PM.
THE PROPOSED, UH, TWO LOT SPLIT SIZES.
THE FIRST LOT WILL BE 3.138 ACRES, AND THE SECOND LOT WILL BE 0.909 ACRES.
UM, THE APPLICABLE CHAPTER IS 1 1 1 7, UH, AND THE REPL DOES DIVIDE THE TWO PARCELS INTO TWO LOTS.
LOOKING AT THE, UM, ANALYSIS OF THIS, THE CONFORMANCE OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, THE PROPOSED LOTS DO COMPLY WITH THE SUBDIVISION AND ZONING REQUIREMENTS.
FIRE AND CITY ENGINEER NEITHER HAD COMMENTS ON THIS.
UH, PLANNING STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REPL SUBMITTED, AND THERE ARE TWO ACTIONS YOU CAN TAKE.
YOU CAN EITHER APPROVE THE REPL OR DENY THE REPL.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IS THIS RIGHT NEXT TO THAT FIRST TRUCKING COMPANY AS YOU'RE COMING FROM THE ROSE ON THE RIGHT? NO, THIS IS NEXT TO, UM, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT NEW? SO IT WOULD BE, UM, IT'S TO THE EAST OF REVERB THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DRAWING, UM, THERE'S A LOT.
SO I'LL SAY THAT LIKE THE TOE OF THE BOOT, UM, THE TOE OF THE BOOT, WE HAVE A PURCHASE OPTION FOR FROM, UH, PRIDE ONE.
THAT WOULD BE THEIR SECOND PHASE.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE BOOT ITSELF, I GUESS, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PART OF THE SHOE IS CALLED.
UM, BUT IT, UH, WE HAVE A A, A GROUP THAT IS LOOKING AT THAT.
SO THIS IS BASICALLY THE FOUR ACRES THAT IS BETWEEN REVERB AND PRIDE.
ONE THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM DUBLIN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MS. BOGO? I'M NOT REAL SURE WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO TONIGHT.
UH, QUITE FRANKLY, IT SAYS IN OUR PAPERWORK THAT, THAT WE'RE ASKED TO REVIEW AND ADOPT THE ZONING DIAGNOSTIC REPORT.
THAT IS NEXT ON, THAT'S THE NEXT CASE.
WE'RE WORKING ON THE NEUBAUER.
CAN YOU ANSWER WHAT PRIDE ONE IS? IS THAT THE DEVELOPER? HMM.
IT'S, UH, RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER THE PHASE ONE IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
IT'S A 153 UNITS, I BELIEVE, GIVE OR TAKE.
AND THEN THE AREA KIND OF ABOVE THE, THE TOE IS THEIR SECOND PHASE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.
IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK, UH, ON THIS ZONING CASE AND HEARING? NO ONE WILL CLOSE THIS PORTION.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT? THE CITY HUBER HEIGHTS, FOR APPROVAL OF THE RELA APPLICATION PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 67 0 1 EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD CASE RP 26 23.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS
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OF STAFF'S MEMORANDUM DATED AUGUST 5TH, 2026.MOTION, UH, MOVED BY MR. JOHNSON, SECOND BY MS. VARGO.
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
AND WHAT IS NEXT FOR THE APPLICANT?
WE WILL COLLECT THE, UH, REQUIRED SIGNATURES AND THEN FILE THE, UH, THE REPL FOR RECORDING.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A CODE RE WRITE, RE REWRITE THE APPLICANT.
THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS IS REQUESTING APPROVAL AND ADOPTION OF A ZONING DIAGNOSTIC REPORT, WHICH SERVES AS A POLICY FRAMEWORK FOR THE ZONING CODE UPDATE CR 26 24.
MR. RELL? YEAH, I, UH, ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION.
UM, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, I BELIEVE AT THE LAST, UH, THE LAST MEETING.
UM, THE, WE HIRED A ZONE CO THE CONSULTANTS AND THEY WERE HERE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, UH, TO TALK, TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS.
UH, ONE OF THE FIRST DELIVERABLES IS THIS, UH, ZONING DIAGNOSTIC REPORT.
AND THIS IS KIND OF THE SECOND ITERATION OF IT.
UH, AND WHAT IT IS, IS A, UH, AN ANALYSIS OF THE CURRENT ZONING CODE AS IT RELATES TO THE VARIOUS GOALS AND OBJECTIVES THAT WERE OUTLINED IN THE 2023 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO THERE WERE, UH, 10, OR EXCUSE ME, 11 OBJECTIVES THAT WERE OUTLINED IN THE, UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THIS REPORT GOES THROUGH, EACH OF THEM LOOKS AT WHERE THE CODE ALIGNS WITH THOSE VARIOUS OBJECTIVES, WHERE IT'S OUT OF ALIGNMENT AND MAKES A SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHAT WE SHOULD DO MOVING FORWARD WITH AN UPDATED ZONING CODE.
UH, IT ALSO DISCUSSES, UM, THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF THE CODE AS FAR AS, UH, IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE CAN MAKE TOWARDS, UH, VARIANCES, UH, MINOR VARIANCES THAT STAFF COULD, UH, APPROVE, UH, BETTER ORGANIZATION OF THE CODE, ET CETERA.
UM, SO HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO, TO LOOK THROUGH IT.
NOT EVERY RECOMMENDATION IS GONNA APPLY.
UH, EQUALLY TO EVERY DISTRICT THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE BETTER SUITED THAN OTHERS.
UM, BUT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, JUST THE NATURE OF ZONING.
WHAT WE ARE ASKING THIS BODY TO DO IS ADOPT THIS, UM, ZONING DIAGNOSTIC REPORT, WHICH THEN WILL SERVE AS THE FRAMEWORK AS WE MOVE THROUGH DRAFTING THE VARIOUS CHAPTERS AND THEN SETTING UP OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
UH, THIS IS REALLY THE, THE FIRST STEP.
WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND, UM, WHERE I WANTED TO BE, BUT WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN BUSY.
SO, UM, IF YOU, I WAS JUST PLANNING TO NOT REALLY SPEND A LOT OF TIME GOING THROUGH IT 'CAUSE HOPEFULLY YOU, YOU'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT IT.
BUT IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN CERTAINLY, UH, ANSWER, ANSWER THEM FOR YOU.
MS. FARGO, CAN YOU TELL ME IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANY CHANGES MADE FROM THE FIRST REPORT THAT WE WERE SUPPLIED WITH? THERE WERE A FEW.
UM, CAN YOU POINT THEM OUT IN THIS ONE? YES.
UM, SO WE, I, THE VERY FIRST REPORT WAS, I WOULD SAY, PRETTY AGGRESSIVE ON THE CHANGES THAT THEY WANTED TO MAKE.
I DIALED THAT BACK A LITTLE BIT.
UM, SO THERE WERE, THERE WAS PROBABLY, I WOULD SAY MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF, I'LL CALL IT LAISSEZ-FAIRE, UM, ZONING, UM, JUST DISTRICTS THAT WILL ALLOW ANYBODY TO DO ANYTHING ANYTIME WE GOT RID OF SOME OF THAT STUFF.
AND, AND PAIRED IT BACK A LITTLE BIT.
WE ALSO, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE LAST COUPLE PAGES, UH, IN THE FIRST DRAFT, CHAPTER THREE HERE, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT ADMINISTRATION AND ORGANIZATION, WERE REALLY WELL FLESHED OUT THE FIRST, UH, DRAFT.
UM, WE'VE SPENT TIME BOTH DON AND I, DON MILLARD, MYSELF AND THE CONSULTANTS GOING THROUGH WHAT WORKS WELL WITH BZA, WHAT WORKS WELL HERE, ISSUES THAT WE THINK WE CAN JUST ADDRESS AT THE STAFF LEVEL AND NOT BOTHER, UM, NOT, NOT TAKE TO A BOARD, BUT THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT WE NEED TO DEFINITELY TAKE TO A BOARD.
SO, UH, I DID NOT DO A RED LINE BETWEEN THE TWO DOCUMENTS.
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS I THINK THAT THIS DOCUMENT ALIGNS BETTER WITH THE DISCUSSION THAT I HEARD WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT THE LAST TIME.
AS FAR AS WE WERE PROBABLY OUT HERE IN THE FIRST DOCUMENT, WE BROUGHT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THE CENTER.
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UH, AND I THINK THIS IS THE DOCUMENT THAT'S APPROPRIATE TO TAKE OUT TO THE PUBLIC, KIND OF AS THE FRAMEWORK FOR US MOVING FORWARD WHEN WE START OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.WELL, AS I RECALL, THE BIGGEST BIGGEST CHANGE WAS GOING TO BE IN ALLOWING, UH, PEOPLE TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE LIVABLE UNIT ON THEIR PROPERTY.
AND, UH, THAT SEEMS TO BE WHERE THE COUNTRY IS GOING.
UM, AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS STILL IN HERE.
UM, THE IDEA OF ALLOWING ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, THE PRINCIPLE OF THEM IS STILL IN HERE.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT THOUGH THEY WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR EVERY LOT.
UM, THEY'RE JUST, SOME LOTS JUST AREN'T BIG ENOUGH.
SO IT WOULD BE A CASE BY CASE.
SO, SO WHERE WE ARE THAT I, I DIDN'T BRING THIS.
SO WE HAVE CURRENTLY 26 ZONING DISTRICTS AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS NOW OF GOING THROUGH AND SEEING, LIKE WE HAVE DISTRICTS THAT WE'VE NEVER PUT ON A MAP.
UH, WE HAVE THREE DISTRICTS THAT ARE IN THE BOOKS BUT HAVE NEVER BEEN MAPPED BY NOW.
AND I THINK THE OTHER ONE WAS ALLOWING BUSINESSES WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
SMALL BUSINESSES LIKE HAIRDRESSERS OR MECHANICS OR WHATEVER, NOT MECHANICS, BUT HAIRDRESSERS.
UM, IN FACT WE, WE DO ALLOW THAT YOU CAN DO HAVE A HOME OCCUPATION WITH, UH, FOR, FOR A HAIRDRESSER WITH ONE.
UH, BUT I THINK WE ALLOW IT TO BASICALLY ONE CHAIR.
UM, BUT WE WOULD NOT, WE, I WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND THAT WE ALLOW, UM, AUTO REPAIR AS A HOME-BASED BUSINESS THAT JUST GETS OUTTA HAND REAL QUICKLY.
THAT'S AN ISSUE WE CHASE ALREADY.
UM, BUT WE ARE PROPOSING TO, AND, AND TO YOUR POINT, IT WOULD BE ON A DISTRICT BY DISTRICT BASIS AS FAR AS LIKE FOR ADUS, THE, THE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE LARGER LOTS DETACHED GARAGES OR BASEMENTS, THOSE TYPE OF, UM, DEVELOPMENTS WOULD LEND THEMSELVES BETTER TO AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT THAN THE 5,600 SQUARE FOOT.
AND WHO MAKES THAT DECISION? WE WILL PUT THAT IN THE CODE, BE WHO AS, AS WE GO THROUGH IT COMES TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
THAT PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION IN THIS DIAGNOSTIC REPORT IS HAVING VERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS IN THE ZONING CODE.
BECAUSE AS I RECALL, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THAT IN THE, IN THE INITIAL DRAFT IT WAS STAFF WOULD BE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS AND THAT I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT STAFF WILL HAVE IN THE FUTURE AND IT JUST KIND OF MADE ME A LITTLE CAUTIOUS.
AND WE PULLED SOME OF THAT BACK.
BUT LIKE FOR RIGHT NOW, UM, THE WAY THE CODE IS WRITTEN, STAFF HAS ALMOST NO DISCRETION ON, UM, CHANGING SITE PLANS.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEBODY CAME IN AND THEY HAVE A HUNDRED PARKING, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A HUNDRED PARKING SPACE LOT.
THERE IS, WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND IS IN THE FUTURE WE WOULD HAVE, LET'S SAY A, UM, MINOR VARIANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW US, YOU KNOW, LIKE A 5% CHANGE.
IF SOMEONE DID LIKE TEXAS ROADHOUSE, THEY'RE DOING AN EXPANSION, IT IMPACTED FOUR SPACES.
THAT TO ME WAS A NON-DISCUSSION TO HAVE, UM, IF WE WERE HAVING, AND, AND SO WE WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE, IF WE HAD THE ABILITY TO SAY, VARY THE PARKING BY SAY 5%, WE WOULD'VE JUST ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED THAT.
UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY IN THE CODE TO REALLY MAKE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES OR VARIANCES.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE RECOMMEND, BUT WE WOULD PUT THOSE THRESHOLDS IN THERE TO WHAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH.
IS IT 5%? IS IT 10%? I DON'T KNOW.
THAT WOULD BE THE CONVERSATION THAT WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE.
AND UM, I DON'T WANNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH STEP BY STEP HOW THIS IS GOING TO TAKE EFFECT AND WHEN, SO THIS IS JUST SETTING OUT FROM HERE FROM TONIGHT, WHAT HAPPENS? OKAY.
SO FROM TONIGHT WHAT WE WILL BE DOING IS, UM, WE HAVE THESE 11 OBJECTIVES.
WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING TOGETHER PUBLIC SURVEYS BASED ON THESE 11 OBJECTIVES AND SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE IN THIS FRAMEWORK.
UH, AND GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE IN THIS SPECTRUM, UH, OR THIS CONTINUUM OF STRICT REGULATION VERSUS THE ABILITY TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY AND FREEDOM TO DO WHAT, YOU KNOW, A PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO DO WITH THEIR, THEIR PROPERTY.
WHERE DO WE FALL ON THIS LINE AS FAR AS DEVELOPMENT? SO WE'LL, WE'LL START THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS NEXT.
AND THEN I AM ENVISIONING THAT IN PROBABLY NOVEMBER WE WOULD COME TO YOU WITH A SERIES OF
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RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THIS IS WHAT WE'VE HEARD.UH, AND THAT'S WHEN WE WILL START PROVIDING YOU WITH DRAFT ZONING TEXT THAT REFLECTS WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE, UH, THE COMMUNITY.
SO IT WOULD BE A USE TABLE THAT, UH, THAT WOULD HAVE PERMITTED USES, CONDITIONAL USES, PROHIBITED USES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND THEN WE CAN START TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE LOT SIZE FOR AN R ONE VERSUS R TWO VERSUS VERSUS R THREE, ET CETERA.
AND WILL THESE MEETINGS BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR WILL THEY JUST BE THE COMMITTEE THAT HAS BEEN WORKING ON IT? THEY'LL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC SO RIGHT.
THEY WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
AND THEN DOES IT GO FROM HERE TO COUNCIL OR DOES IT JUST BECOME LAW? NO, SO, UM, WE WILL, WE WILL PUT DRAFTS TOGETHER, BE BE REVIEWED BY THIS BODY, THIS BODY WOULD THEN AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL AS TO WHETHER OR NOT, UH, IT SHOULD BE ADOPTED.
AND THAT WILL PROBABLY BE FIRST OF THE YEAR.
I'M TARGETING FIRST QUARTER OF, OF 27.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YOU JUST ANSWERED ALL FIVE OF MY QUESTIONS.
YOU AND UH, ZONE CODE, IS THAT IT? YES.
PUTTING THIS FORWARD, UH, KIND OF REMINDS ME OF OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE'RE KIND OF HEADING AS FAR AS THE, JUST BEING ABLE TO HAVE SMALL, I DON'T KNOW, COMMERCIAL, UH, AREAS MIXED IN WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS MORE, LESS LIKE MOM AND POP TYPE STUFF, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT I'M FEELING HERE? YEAH.
AND AND SOME OF THE OTHER BIG CHANGES ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING A BIG A DISTINCTION BETWEEN TYPES OF COMMERCIAL.
SO YOU'VE GOT REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, THAT WOULD BE THE STUFF AT, YOU KNOW, AT 70 AND OLD TROY PIKE AND 70 AND BRANT WHERE YOU, THIS IS MORE OF A REGIONAL DRAW.
THAT'S YOUR TARGET, IT'S YOUR LOWE'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BRINGING IN MORE THAN JUST HUBER SHOPPERS VERSUS YOUR SMALLER COMMERCIAL AREAS THAT ARE FURTHER DOWN AT SAY POW AND OLD TROY PIKE, WHICH ARE LARGELY NEIGHBORHOOD ORIENTED RETAIL.
UM, THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AT THE MOMENT OR GOING THROUGH THE ANALYSIS IS LOOKING AT ACTUAL LOT SIZE AND ALIGNING OUR ZONING REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS MINIMUM AND LOT SIZE WITH THE WAY THE LOTS ARE ACTUALLY PLATTED SO THAT WE GET RID OF OR MINIMIZE TO THE MA THE BEST ABILITY, BEST OF OUR ABILITY, NONCONFORMITIES.
UM, SO THOSE ARE WHERE WE'RE HEADED.
AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, MOVING MORE TOWARDS TABLES INSTEAD OF LONG LISTS OF USES JUST ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE, IT'S JUST EASIER TO, TO VISUALIZE WHAT, YOU KNOW, THIS USE IS ALLOWED IN X, Y, AND Z INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH EVERY DISTRICT CHAPTER.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR US MR. SORELL? DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR US? I'M SORRY.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ZONING CASE? GOTTA GO THROUGH IT.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT? THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, FOR APPROVAL OF A CODE RE CODE RE WHITE NO CODE RE WRIGHT CR 26 24 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF'S MEMORANDUM DATED AUGUST 5TH, 2026 IN THE PLAINTIFF COMMISSION'S DECISION RECORD ATTACHED THERE TOO.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. VARGO? YES.
ARE WE TO KEEP A HOLD OF THESE THEN? YES, PLEASE KEEP THOSE WHAT WE'RE AGREEING ON.
UH, WE HAVE NO ADDITIONAL BUSINESS.
NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES WITHOUT OBJECTIONS.
THE MINUTES OF THE JULY 14TH, 2026 PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BE APPROVED.
THEY ARE APPROVED REPORTS AND CALENDAR REVIEW.
AT THE, UH, AT THE MOMENT WE HAVE NOTHING, UH, NO APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, UH, FOR THE UH, WHAT DID WE IN AUGUST FOR THE SEPTEMBER MEETING.
MS. HAYES, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD?
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NO.ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? UH, UP AND COMING MEETINGS? YOU SAY WE HAVE NOTHING SO ANYBODY GOT ANYTHING ELSE TO BRING BEFORE THE COMMISSION? I'LL LET YOU KNOW IF THAT NEXT MEETING'S CANCELED 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT A FEW MORE DAYS.
AND MR. SHOPPER, I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THE EMAILS THAT YOU SENT ME AND THE FLOWERS YOU SENT ME AT MY SURGERY LAST MONTH.
GOOD TO BE HERE AND HEARING NOTHING ELSE, WE ARE ADJOURNED.