* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] YOU HEAR ME? YEP. IT IS 6 31. [ AGENDA PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road June 18, 2026 6:30 P.M.] AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND BEGIN TONIGHT'S EVENING OR TONIGHT'S THIS EVENING'S MEETING. THAT'S HOW TODAY HAS BEEN. SOUNDED GOOD THE FIRST TIME. CASEY TAYLOR HERE. RACHEL AKINS. PRESENT. ALEXANDER BLACK RESIDENT. BRANDON BOARD. HERE. BRIAN DE. HERE. SHELL FISHER. ANDY HILL HERE. RICHARD MOORE. HERE. DENNIS SNYDER. MR. RON EER HERE. THEN WE DID RECEIVE NOTICE FROM DENNIS THAT HE WOULDN'T BE HERE THIS EVENING. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MOTION AN EXCUSE? OKAY, I'LL SECOND AND SECOND. ALL RIGHT. AND HAS ANYONE HEARD FROM MICHELLE? UM, I DO NOT HAVE ANY OPENING REMARKS THIS EVENING AND THERE ARE NO CITIZENS HERE TONIGHT. SO WE WILL START WITH THE OLD BUSINESS, WITH THE YMCA UPDATE? YEP. UH, JUST A COUPLE THINGS. UM, WE, UH, WE HAD A LEAK, UM, AND A FEATURE LINE DOWN AT THE SPLASH PACK. THAT'S WHY IT WAS CLOSED, UM, FOR A COUPLE WEEKS OR A COUPLE DAYS. SORRY. EASY. UM, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON. UM, BUT WHY IT CIRCULATED WITHOUT THE FEATURES ON. WE MAINTAINED WATER LEVEL AND THE SURGE TANK. WE, YOU TURN THE FEATURES ON THE SURGE TANK DROPPED PRETTY QUICKLY. UM, WE WERE HAVING TO REFILL. IT WAS MESSED WITH CHEMICAL CONTROLLER, SO WE SHUT IT DOWN FOR A FEW DAYS. UM, PUBLIC WORKS PLAYED AROUND WITH THE FEATURE LINES, TURNING 'EM OFF, LETTING 'EM RUN. SEE IF WE DROP. WE FOUND THE ONE THAT WE BELIEVE WAS THE LEAK. UM, WE TURNED THAT FEATURE OFF FOR THE SUMMER. UM, IT'S BEEN RUNNING FINE EVER SINCE. UM, UP AT THE AQUATIC CENTER WE HAD A, A 20 HORSEPOWER MOTOR GO OUT ON THE CIRCULATION PUMP FOR THE LAZY RIVER AND, UH, WATER SLIDES, UM, THAT WAS, UH, REPLACED TODAY. WE'RE WAITING ON A MECHANICAL SEAL TO COME IN. UM, SO THAT'S BEEN FIXED AND IT WAS OPERATIONAL TODAY BY NOON. SO THOSE TWO, TWO AQUATIC ISSUES WERE, WERE SOLVED. UM, SO FAR BESIDES A FEW DAYS, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THIS UNSEASONABLY COOLER TEMPS THIS WEEK, UM, THE AQUATIC SEASON HAS GONE WELL. WE'VE HAD GOOD ATTENDANCE, UM, ANYWHERE BETWEEN, UM, SIX TO, I THINK LAST SATURDAY WE, WE WENT OVER A THOUSAND FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS SEASON FOR A DAY. SO, UM, IT'S BEEN BUSY. STAFF'S BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB. UM, SO THAT'S GONE WELL. UM, WE DO HAVE THE WORLD'S LARGEST SWIMMING LESSON NEXT THURSDAY, UM, STARTING AT 9:15 AM AT THE AQUATIC CENTER, WHICH IS A FREE COMMUNITY EVENT. UM, THEY CAN REGISTER ONLINE AT THE Y UM, OR STOP IN OR CALL IN. WE CAN GET 'EM REGISTERED. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 83 OR 84 PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR THAT. UM, SO WE'LL WE'LL SEE HOW MANY OUT OF THAT 83, 84 ACTUALLY SHOW UP. UM, BUT UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN UP TO. UM, WE GOT T-BALL SUMMER BASKETBALL GOING RIGHT NOW. GOT A COUPLE OF T-BALL. I GOT ONE T-BALL VOLUNTEER COACH ON THE BOARD. UM, I THINK ONE SOUNDED LIKE SHE MAY HAVE WAS SUPPOSED TO SUB, BUT SHE DIDN'T WANT TO FACE THE THUNDERSTORMS COMING IN, UH, LAST NIGHT FROM WHAT I OVERHEARD. I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO SUB, I CAN'T SUB HOLDING A SIX MONTH OLD. OH, OKAY. THAT'S FAIR. THAT'S FAIR. BUT UH, THAT'S REALLY ABOUT IT. UM, I'LL SEND OUT A LINK TO THE BOARD IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN VOLUNTEERING AT THE STRONG KIDS. TRY IT IS SATURDAY, AUGUST 1ST AT THE AQUATICS CENTER. UM, WE'LL HAVE OVER 300, UH, KIDS COME OUT AND PARTICIPATE IN A TRIATHLON THAT DAY AT THE AQUATICS CENTER. WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ANYBODY WHO'S INTERESTED IN VOLUNTEERING COMING OUT. THAT'S A GREAT EVENT. SO THAT'S ALL I GOT. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO THE CITY UPDATE. THANK YOU. UM, OKAY, SO THE FIRST UPDATE I WANNA GIVE IS YOU WILL PROBABLY NOTICE THAT YOUR AGENDA DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT THE TREE BOARD DISCUSSION ON IT THAT WE HAD MENTIONED BEING IN JUNE LAST MEETING. AND THAT IS BECAUSE AFTER TALKING A BIT TO OUR FORESTERS WITH ODNR, UM, THEY WERE ABLE TO PUT ON THEIR SCHEDULE FOR JULY TO COME TALK TO US. SO THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE A MUCH BETTER DISCUSSION THAN WHAT YOU CAN JUST HAVE WITH ME. THEY'LL NOT ONLY TALK ABOUT THE FUNDAMENTALS OF HOW WE SHOULD BE SETTING UP A TREE BOARD, THEY'RE GONNA GIVE ME SOME MATERIALS I CAN GET TO YOU AHEAD OF TIME TOO TO READ AND DIGEST. AND THEN ALSO THEY'LL BE TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE TREE GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND SOME DIFFERENT THINGS WE CAN DO WITH IT. WE HAVE IT ALL EARMARKED RIGHT NOW TO BUY MORE STREET AND PARK TREES, BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME OTHER APPLICATIONS THAT IT CAN BE USED FOR. AND SO [00:05:01] SHE CAN BOUNCE THOSE OFF THE BOARD AND SEE IF, IF THE BOARD WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, UM, ANYTHING THAT GRANT MONEY MIGHT COME FOR. SO I BELIEVE THAT TWO OF OUR FORESTERS WILL BE JOINING US THAT EVENING. SO COME WITH YOUR QUESTIONS AND THE LITERATURE THEY GET ME BEFOREHAND. I WOULD GET TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. UM, THAT IS WHY THAT'S NOT ON TONIGHT. I WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE SINCE WE HAD SOME CITIZENS COME IN AND COMMENT LAST MONTH ABOUT THE PHILLIPS PARK SIGN THAT IS IN THE WORK. SO THE FABRICATORS OF THE SIGN HAVE BEEN, UM, THEY QUOTED THE WORK, I SIGNED OFF ON IT AND THEN THE COMING WEEK OR SO THEY SHOULD BE GOING OUT REMOVING THE SIGN, TAKING IT TO THEIR SHOP AND PAINTING IT AND THEN REINSTALLING. SO WE SHOULD SEE THAT HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF JULY. ABSOLUTELY BACK INSTALLED AND SHIP SHAPE. SO I THANK THEM FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. SARAH, JUST, UH, REAL QUICK FOR UH, WAS THAT IT NEEDED TO BE REPAIRED BECAUSE IT WAS DAMAGED OR WAS IT, IT WAS JUST TOLD IT'S FADING VERY BADLY AND SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY. 'CAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE FADING AT A HIGHER RATE THAN OTHER SIGNS IN THE SYSTEM. SO WE'LL SEE IF IT HOLDS UP AGAIN OR IF SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS. I KNOW WE HAVE REMOVED SOME GRAFFITI ON IT, BUT IF OUR GUYS HAD SCRUBBED IT THAT HARD, I WOULD'VE HOPED THAT WE WOULD'VE DONE SOMETHING. SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT REMOVED A TOP COAT OR SOMETHING, BUT WE'LL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT. UM, I WANTED TO PLUG SOME OF OUR EVENTS COMING UP AND MENTION FOR ANY VIEWERS AT HOME OR ANY OF YOU THAT IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THE CLEAR BAGS, MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE ONE THAT YOU ALREADY USE FOR SPORTING EVENTS. UM, BUT FOR, TO BRING TO STAR-SPANGLED HEIGHTS PER OUR NUCLEAR BAG POLICY, THOSE WOULD BE AVAILABLE AT OUR UPCOMING EVENTS, INCLUDING THE CONCERT AT THE EEL BERG ON 6 26. UM, SO I INVITE EVERYBODY TO COME OUT TO ACOUSTIC HOOKAH AND LISTEN TO THEIR UM, BLUE GA GRASS ROCK KIND OF FUSION. IT SHOULD BE A GOOD NIGHT. AND THEY'RE A VERY POPULAR BAND HERE IN OHIO. UM, IT'LL ALSO BE AT, UM, THE LIBRARY TIME AND THE PARK COMING UP AND OUR TASTY TUESDAY FOOD TRUCK RALLIES THAT HAVE BEEN OUT AT CLOUD PARK TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THOSE TWO PROGRAMS. UM, PEOPLE ARE LOVING THE LIBRARY IN THE PARK AND WE ARE LOVING PARTNERING WITH THE LIBRARY. WE'RE SEEING OVER 40 ATTENDEES EACH WEEK OUT AT COTTONWOOD PARK, WHICH IS GREAT. AND THEN AT TASTY TUESDAY IT'S BEEN A LITTLE HIT OR MISS WITH THE WEATHER, SOME STORMS ROLLING IN. BUT THIS PAST WEEK WE HAD JUST UNDER 300 VISITORS, WHICH IS GREAT. UM, WE ALSO HAD, UM, AN INSTAGRAM INFLUENCER OUT THERE RATING SOME OF THE FOOD TRUCKS. UM, SO HOPEFULLY THAT THAT WILL BRING IN SOME ADDITIONAL PATRONAGE AND SOME ADDITIONAL FOOD TRUCKS. UM, I SAW A LOT OF COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE OF LIKE, OH MAN, I'M IN HUB AND DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS HAPPENING. SO WE'RE PRETTY HAPPY ON THAT, UM, PARTNERSHIP AND THEN THE STAR-SPANGLED HEIGHTS AND, UH, HERITAGE PICNIC ARE IN FULL FORCE PLANNING MODE. SO, UM, IF YOU ARE CURIOUS ABOUT THE TIME CAPSULE OR ANYTHING HAPPENING WITH THOSE TWO, TWO 50TH EVENTS, PLEASE SEND YOUR QUESTIONS MY WAY. I AM HAPPY TO HELP ANSWER THEM. UM, AND THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU. AND THEN JUST AN UPDATE ON THE CREEK WALKS THAT WE'VE HAD. WE'VE HAD ONE SO FAR A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. IT HAD A GOOD TURNOUT. THERE ARE PICTURES AVAILABLE ONLINE. THE NEXT ONE IS THE 27TH AT 10. UM, THERE'S STILL TIME AND ROOM TO SIGN UP FOR THAT ONE. IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEW BUSINESS OF THE COMMUNITY PARK RESTROOM. YEP. OKAY, SO I HAVE UM, A SPREADSHEET HERE. SORRY I DIDN'T GET IT PASSED OUT BEFOREHAND. AND THEN I HAVE THREE COPIES OF TWO DIFFERENT PROPOSALS. UM, THE FIRST IS FROM A COMPANY CALLED BROM TECH AND THEY SELL, THEY DESIGN THE BUILDING AND SELL IT TO YOU AS LIKE A KIT. THEN WE WILL PARTNER WITH A LOCAL, UM, WE WOULD CONTRACT A LOCAL CONTRACTOR TO COME AND BUILD IT ONSITE PER LOCAL OHIO CODES. UM, INSTALL ALL OF THE ELECTRIC PLUMBING, ALL OF THAT, HOOK IT UP TO SEWAGE, EVERYTHING. UM, THE SECOND IS FROM A COMPANY CALLED GREEN FLUSH THAT DOES PREFABRICATED BUILDINGS. SO THEY WOULD BUILD IT REMOTELY ON SITE AT THEIR FABRICATION SHOP. IT THEN GETS SHIPPED TO US WITH A CRANE. SO THERE'S ONLY THREE OF THOSE. SO YOU JUST LIKE SHARE AND PASS 'EM AROUND 'CAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH, THERE'S JUST LIKE A TON OF PAPER. UM, SO IT'S REALLY JUST SO YOU GET AN IDEA OF THE TYPE OF, UM, PRODUCT. THE SPREADSHEET IS WHAT REALLY BREAKS DOWN THE, LIKE, IT'S NOT AN APPLES TO ORANGES BUT, OR APPLES TO APPLES, BUT MAYBE APPLES TO PEAR COMPARISON. SO WHAT YOU REALLY WANT IS THE SPREADSHEET. UM, BASICALLY I'M AT THE POINT WHERE I'M DECIDING BETWEEN THESE TWO COMPANIES. I DID REACH OUT TO A THIRD, BUT THEIR BUILDINGS ARE [00:10:01] JUST A LOT MORE PLAIN FACE. UM, THEY'RE NOT QUITE AS AESTHETICALLY PLEASING THAT WE WOULD WANNA PUT IN A MUNICIPAL PARK. YOU'D FIND THEM MORE LIKE IN THE BACKWOODS, I THINK OF A, OF A, A BIG PARK SYSTEM. I THINK THEY WOULD MAYBE JUST INVITE GRAFFITI IN THAT SORT OF THING. SO THESE, THESE LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE POLISHED FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT. UM, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SPREADSHEET, YOU CAN SEE THE FOOTPRINT AND SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE FIRST. THAT ROTECH KIT IS PROPOSED TO BE ROUGHLY 375 SQUARE FEET. THERE ARE THREE MODELS THAT GREEN FLUSH HAS PUT TOGETHER FOR PROPOSAL. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY RANGE FROM 144 TO 360 SQUARE FEET. UM, THE ROM TECH KIT WOULD HAVE ONE WOMEN AND ONE MEN'S RESTROOM. SO NO UNISEX, UM, NO FAMILY RESTROOM. THERE WOULD BE A STALL AND A URINAL IN THE MEN'S AND TWO STALLS IN THE WOMEN. SO YOU COULD HAVE FOUR PEOPLE USING THE RESTROOM AT ONCE. THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE STORAGE SPACE WOULD BE 90 SQUARE FEET ROUGHLY. THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION PRICE ARE STILL FORTHCOMING. BUT THE BEST ESTIMATE I WAS GIVEN, UM, IN SPEAKING WAS ABOUT 240,000 TO PURCHASE. AND THEN MOST PEOPLE ARE FINDING THAT THE CONTRACTORS ARE COSTING ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT AS THE KIT. SO IF YOU SAID 2 40, 2 40 AND THEN PROBABLY $20,000 TO RUN A WATER LINE, WHICH IS A FIGURE I'VE GOT FROM OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $500,000. AND THIS WOULD BE OUR LARGEST OPTION WITH THE MOST PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO GO TO THE RESTROOM AT THE SAME TIME. THE UM, GREEN FLUSH OPTIONS, YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY GROW IN SIZE THERE. THEY ALSO HAVE DIFFERENT SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE STORAGE, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER WHEN WE THINK ABOUT IS THERE GONNA BE A PICKLEBALL ORGANIZATION THAT WANTS TO KEEP SOME THINGS OUT THERE? IS THE PARKS DEPARTMENT GOING TO PUT MORE PROGRAMMING IN THAT PARK AND NEED TO KEEP THINGS THERE RATHER THAN TRANSPORT THEM? THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE MIGHT MATTER A LITTLE. THE PURCHASE PRICE, UM, YOU CAN SEE IT'S, IT'S VERY CLOSE IN THOSE FIRST TWO MODELS. AND THEN IN THE THIRD MODEL, THE DI BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE THIRD MODEL, THE KEYSTONE VERSUS THE DURANGO OR BRECKENRIDGE IS THAT IT HAS A UNISEX OR FAMILY RESTROOM. SO YOU WOULD HAVE THREE ONE PERSON USER RESTROOMS GOING ON THERE. SO AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S ESTIMATED THAT THE KIT WILL COST THE MOST AND THE PREFAB WILL COST THE LEAST. UM, WE DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT INSTALLATION WILL COME IN AT. UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL WE BID IT BY WHO'S AVAILABLE AND WHAT THEY'RE GONNA UM, SAY IT WILL COST. SO SOME OF MY OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS THAT WOULD HELP GUIDE THE DECISION BETWEEN THESE TWO COMPANIES AND THESE FOUR MODELS WOULD BE IS MORE STORAGE NEEDED FOR PICKLEBALL NETS, SUPPLIES, THAT SORT OF THING. IS MORE THAN ONE STALL NEEDED IN A RESTROOM. YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED TWO WOMEN TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE RESTROOM AT THE SAME TIME OR IS IT JUST A SINGLE USE RESTROOM ENOUGH? UM, DO WE NEED ELECTRICAL LIGHTING OR COULD WE PUT IN SKYLIGHTS? DO WE FORESEE A NEED FOR THAT? WILL THESE BE, THIS IS A BIG ONE. WILL THESE BE UNLOCKED ALL THE TIME OR JUST FOR EVENTS AND USER GROUPS? IF WE'RE ONLY UNLOCKING THEM WHEN WE ARE ORGANIZING ACTIVITY OUT THERE, WE CAN GO WITH LIKE PORCELAIN FIXTURES. IF WE'RE KEEPING 'EM UNLOCKED ALL THE TIME, WE PROBABLY WANNA GO WITH STAINLESS STEEL SO THEY DON'T GET RIPPED OUT OF THE WALL, WHICH IS THE, IS A SIGNIFICANT COST INCREASE. IS THERE ANY REASON TO HAVE THESE AVAILABLE YEAR ROUND, THEREFORE WE HAVE SOME SORT OF CLIMATE CONTROL IN THEM OR CAN WE JUST WINTERIZE 'EM AND SHUT 'EM DOWN IN OCTOBER? GOING, LOOKING THROUGH THOSE LISTS WHERE YOU SEE EVERYTHING THAT'S CHECK MARKED, WAS THERE AN AMENITY THAT I MISSED THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE? UM, I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT THE PRECAST BUILDING, BECAUSE IT'S COMING WITH PRECAST WALLS AND IT'S GETTING PICKED UP AND PLOPPED DOWN, IF IT SETTLES THE GROUND SETTLES UNDERNEATH IT, YOU MIGHT SEE LIKE CRACKS IN THE WALLS. WHEREAS THE KIT BUILT ON SITE IS GONNA HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY 'CAUSE IT'S THE STACKED MASONRY BRICK, NOT PRECAST CEMENT WALLS. SO ARE WE WORRIED ABOUT THAT OVER 10, 20 YEARS? AND THEN JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE HAD A BUDGET OF $300,000 FOR BOTH RESTROOMS AND SHADE THIS YEAR. 262 REMAINS OF THAT. I ALREADY KNOW THAT THE LEAD TIME ON BOTH OF THESE HAS US INSTALLING NEXT YEAR. SO I'M ABLE TO PUT THE INSTALL PRICE INTO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. BUT IF WE WANT TO GO WITH SOMETHING THAT COSTS A LITTLE MORE ON THE INITIAL PURCHASE AMOUNT, WHICH WOULD, THE [00:15:01] ONLY ONE I THINK WILL BE THIS GREEN FLESH KEYSTONE, THE ONE WITH THE UNISEX RESTROOM. I'M GONNA NEED TO EITHER FIND MONEY AND A PROJECT THAT'S COMING IN UNDER OR ASK COUNSEL FOR MORE MONEY TOWARD THE PROJECT. I'M FINE DOING EITHER IF WE THINK THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE SHOULD GO, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S QUITE A FEW CONSIDERATIONS. AND SO I DEFINITELY WANTED TO HAVE YOU GUYS ASK ME EVERY QUESTION THAT YOU POSSIBLY COULD THINK OF AND GIVE EVERY RECOMMENDATION, EVERY THOUGHT, UM, BECAUSE I'M SURE COUNSEL WOULD HAVE MUCH THE SAME QUESTIONS. SO YOU'LL HELP PREP ME FOR, FOR ULTIMATELY EXPLAINING ANY DECISION THAT'S MADE. UM, AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE AN OFFICIAL RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD BE EVEN BETTER. UH, SARAH, IS IT POSSIBLE NOT TO MAKE A PD COPY OF THIS SO WE CAN ALL GET TO LOOK AT IT? I LIKE TO LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, UH, DIGEST IT OVER TIME. BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND GIVE YOU MY INPUTS ON THAT IF YOU DON'T MIND. BECAUSE I THINK WHY WE PASSING AROUND, YOU KNOW, IS NOT AN ACCURATE TIME EVERY TIME TO READ IT WITH THE, SORRY, GO AHEAD. WITH THE PLAYGROUND BEING MORE HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE AT COMMUNITY, WOULD ADDING FEATURES SUCH AS THE ADULT CHANGING TABLE INTO LIKE A UNISEX STALL BE A POSSIBILITY? ANYTHING IS, IS POSSIBLE. I DON'T KNOW THAT EITHER OF THESE OFFER THE FOOTPRINT TO DO THAT. THE OTHER OPTION IS WHEN YOU HAVE JUST A MEN'S AND A WOMEN'S, WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THEM MEN'S AND WOMEN'S, THEY COULD BOTH BE UNISEX AND THEN THEY MIGHT BE LARGE ENOUGH TO PUT THE TABLE IN. BUT I DO KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE A STRONG PREFERENCE TOWARDS HAVING A MEN AND A WOMEN'S. ALEX. IN YOUR TOURNAMENT EXPERIENCE, WHAT YOU SEE LAID OUT HERE, IS THIS ADEQUATE AT SOME OTHER FACILITIES THAT YOU'VE BEEN AT OR, UM, DO THEY NOT HAVE 'EM OR IS THERE THEY PORTAL LETS AT SOME OTHER FACILITIES, I, I MEAN TO ME THAT PRICE IN, WE MAY AS WELL BUILD A HOUSE WITH TWO AND A HALF BATH AND HAVE A KITCHEN BECAUSE YOU CAN BUILD A HOUSE FOR SOME OF THESE. IT'S LIKE, YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME, BUT WOW. SORRY. I THINK, I THINK THE TWO STALL IT MORE. I THINK THE TWO STALL IT MORE THAN ADEQUATE BECAUSE, UH, BE SURPRISED WHEN PEOPLE ARE PLAYING PICKLEBALL, HAVING EVENTS GOING ON. THEY DON'T USE THE RESTROOM THAT OFTEN. OKAY. IF YOU'RE THERE MORE THAN TWO HOURS, THEN YOU MIGHT NEED IT. RIGHT. SO I DON'T THINK IT'D BE SOMETHING YOU'D BE USING, YOU KNOW, UH, EVERYBODY BE GOING TO USE IT EVERY, EVERY EVENT THERE. RIGHT. SO THIS SHOULD BE MORE THAN ADEQUATE I WOULD THINK. YEAH. YOU THINK ONE, UH, ONE USER PER RESTROOM IS PROBABLY FINE. THAT WILL, THAT WILL WORK TOO, I THINK. YEAH. MM-HMM . YEAH. SO WHAT'S THE CURRENT, UM, SITUATION THERE? THERE'S NOTHING OR ARE THERE PORTLETS OR, OR TWO PORTA-POTTIES? YEAH. AND WE THINK THAT'S NOT SUFFICIENT. UM, THE PORTA-POTTIES RUN US A LITTLE OVER $200 A MONTH, I THINK EACH. SO, UM, IT ISN'T CHEAP, BUT, UM, IT'S ALSO, THEY'RE NOT ENTIRELY ACCESSIBLE AS YOU CAN IMAGINE WITH THE PORTA POTTY. UM, AND THIS HAS BEEN A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN HIGHLIGHTED BY THIS BOARD FOR A FEW YEARS NOW, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE PURSUING IT. BUT IF, IF YOU HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION, THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TOO. YEAH. YEAH. I THINK, LIKE RON SAID, THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY , SO I HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD REASON TO DO IT. I'M NOT SAYING THIS COULDN'T BE DONE, BUT UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE, IF, IF THE ACCESSIBILITY IS THE ISSUE, I WONDER IF THERE'S OTHER SOLUTIONS THAT MIGHT BE CHEAPER. MAYBE I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND. YES, BRIAN? SORRY. IN MY OPINION, I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE CLIMATE CONTROLLED. WE SHOULD IZE IT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, BUT HAVE IT OPEN FOR EVEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE OUT THERE PLAYING BASKETBALL OR WHATEVER PLAYING, UH, UH, DISC GOLF AND ALL THAT. SO I, I DEFINITELY WOULD SUGGEST PAYING MORE FOR THE STAINLESS STEEL. MY CONCERN WOULD BE IT BEING OPEN ALL THE TIME. UM, HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS GETTING OUTTA SCHOOL OR BEFOREHAND BEING IN THERE, UM, DOING THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING. , YOU KNOW, VANDALIZING IT TOO. YEAH. SO LIKE HOW FAR AWAY ARE CAMERAS? I KNOW THERE'S CAMERAS THAT ARE SET UP OR BEING SET UP THAT WE DISCUSSED. SO [00:20:01] THERE, UM, HAVING THE BUILDING WOULD GIVE US A SPOT TO PUT A CAMERA ON IT. YEAH. UM, RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE THE MOBILE ONE IN THERE. OKAY. DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE PARTS THAT HAVE RESTROOMS OPEN 24 7? MOST OF THEM ARE NOT 24 7. THEY LOCK IT LIKE DAWN THE DUSK, THEY HAVE AUTOMATIC LOCKS ON 'EM, BUT, UM, MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN OPEN UNTIL THIS YEAR. UM, AND COTTONWOOD AND THE EEL BERG ARE CURRENTLY CLOSED WHEN THERE'S NOT A RENTAL OR DEDICATED USE BECAUSE OF VANDALISM. YEAH. EVEN AT BERG, THEY, UH, SOMEBODY RIPPED THE SINK OUT OF THE WALL AND AS SOON AS WE GOT IT FIXED, TWO DAYS LATER BUSTED THE TOILET OUT OF THE WALL. SO THE MEN AND THE MEN'S, THERE'S NO MIRROR. AND THEN THIS PAST WEEKEND SOMEBODY TOOK THE FIRE EXTINGUISHER OUT OF THE TENT THAT'S THERE FOR CODE AND UM, DISCHARGED IT ENTIRELY IN THE WOMEN'S RESTROOM. FANTASTIC. YEAH, THAT'S THE SAME CASE FOR THE, THE MIRROR IN THE WOMEN'S RESTROOM. I THINK THE MIRRORS WERE ALL REMOVED LONG AGO AFTER THEM BEING BROKEN. YEAH. YEAH. WE, YOU CAN GET LIKE MORE EASILY TAMPERPROOF MIRRORS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT SUPER HIGH QUALITY MIRRORS, BUT THEY'RE LIKE METAL. I DID NOT HAVE MIRRORS IN EITHER ANY OF THESE. I DON'T THINK BECAUSE DID THESE COME WITH A WARRANTY LIKE THEY'RE GUARANTEED TO LAST SO LONG OR? OH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT AND I, I IMAGINE THAT THE, UM, THE PREFAB WOULD BE OF THE MOST CONCERN AND THEN YOU'D, WE'D HAVE SOME SORT OF BUILDERS GUARANTEE ON THE KIT ALSO. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. AND JUST MAINTENANCE COSTS ON WHAT'S THE ANNUAL COST TO MAINTAIN THESE. I MEAN THAT'S A COST WE HAVE TO CONSIDER AS WELL. SO THE POINT THAT CASEY MENTIONED WITH THE CHANGING TABLES MM-HMM . WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GET A PRICE ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE ADDED? YEP. OH IS IT IN HERE ALREADY? LEMME SEE. THAT'S NOT CHEAP. SO SARAH, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR INPUTS FROM US FOR THE NEXT MEETING? THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. UM, I'LL PROBABLY SEND OUT THE INFORMATION TO YOU GUYS NEXT WEEK AND THEN IF YOU WOULD JUST RESPOND TO ME INDIVIDUALLY WITH ANY FEEDBACK YOU HAVE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OKAY. UM, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THIS TO COUNCIL NEXT MONTH. UM, THERE'S ONLY ONE MEETING PER MONTH AND TO BE ABLE TO GET UM, A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT AND ABILITY TO PURCHASE WOULD BE GREAT. OKAY. OKAY. SO JUST TO RECAP WHAT I'M HEARING, I'M GOING TO GET PDF INFORMATION OUT TO YOU ALL SO YOU CAN INDEPENDENTLY DIGEST IT AND THEN COMMUNICATE BACK TO ME ANY FEEDBACK. I'M ALSO GONNA FIND OUT THE FEASIBILITY OF AN ADULT CHANGING TABLE AND WHAT THAT WOULD ADD. IT MIGHT JUST LIKE COMPLETELY RULE OUT SOME OF THESE MODELS, BUT WHAT IT WOULD ADD TO THE ONES THAT IT CAN BE PUT IN. AND THEN IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS A CONSENSUS FROM YOU ALL THAT. WE'LL WINTERIZE, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE OPEN THROUGH THE WINTER THAT WE WANT STAINLESS FIXTURES. WE'RE A BIT UNDECIDED ON IF IT'S OPEN OR CLOSED ALL THE TIME. THAT CAN BE DECIDED LATER. AND THEN WE WANNA FIND OUT MORE ABOUT A WARRANTY AND LIKE BUILDER'S GUARANTEE AND WHAT'S COMMON AND THEN THE MAINTENANCE COST OVER TIME, WHICH I CAN INCLUDE IN THAT EMAIL WITH THE PDF TO EVERYBODY. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE I HEARD EVERYTHING? OKAY. BEFORE WE MOVE ON, UH, CURIOSITY. SO YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT FOR THOSE THAT HAVE A RESTROOM, IT AUTOMATICALLY LOCKS IT, WHAT TIME ROUGHLY NINE O'CLOCK RIGHT NOW WE CHANGE IT SEASONALLY TO ALIGN CLOSER TO DUSK. SHOULD, COULD IT BE PROPPED OPEN THAT IT WOULD NEVER LOCK AND IT COULD BE OPEN ALL NIGHT? OR IS IT, IS, DOES THAT NOTIFY SOMEBODY TO GO CHECK IT? NO, IT DOESN'T NOTIFY. OKAY. SO IF SOMEBODY HAD PUT LIKE A BRICK IN THE WAY OR WHATEVER, SO IF THE KIDS WERE OVER AT COMMUNITY SHOOTING HOOPS, I KNOW IT'S CLOSING AT A CERTAIN, OR COULD THAT BATHROOM BE LEFT OPEN PAST WHATEVER HOUR THAT IS AND THEN THE BRICK'S NOT REMOVED AND ALL OF A SUDDEN TROUBLES OVER THERE AT MIDNIGHT OR ONE O'CLOCK OR WHATEVER [00:25:01] JUST CURE I YEAH, SOMEBODY COULD DO THAT, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH. IF THEY WERE LIKE, OH THE BATHROOM'S GONNA LOCK ON US, BUT THE PARK DOES CLOSE AT DUSK ALL OF OUR JUICES, THAT'S WHY WE ALIGN IT WITH THAT. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE VOLUNTEER NEEDS FOR THE STAR SPAND HEIGHTS AND PICNIC. YES. OKAY. SO I WANTED TO TALK AGAIN ABOUT THE UPCOMING 250TH EVENTS INCLUDING STAR SPANGLED HEIGHTS, WHICH OF COURSE WE DO ANNUALLY. AND THEN THE HERITAGE PICNIC HAPPENING ON JULY 18TH. FORGIVE ME AS I LOG ON HERE, MY COMPUTER WENT TO SLEEP. IT IS HARD TO TALK AND TYPE. SORRY. OKAY, SO I AM STILL IN NEED OF VOLUNTEERS FOR STAR SPANKED HEIGHTS AND I'D LOVE TO JUST BE ABLE TO SIGN PEOPLE UP RIGHT NOW IF YOU KNOW YOU WOULD BE ABLE. SO I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SHIFTS AND THEN IF YOU WANNA VOLUNTEER NOW OR YOU WANNA DIGEST IT, THAT'S FINE TOO. BUT I DO NEED PARADE ASSISTANCE STARTING AT 7:00 AM SO ROUGHLY SEVEN TO 11:00 AM HELPING UP IN THIS HUBER CENTER PARKING LOT AND ALONG CHAMBERSBURG ROAD HELPING TO LINE UP PARADE ATTENDEES. LAST YEAR WE HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT GAPS IN OUR PARADE, SO WE WOULD NEED TO CHANGE OUR METHOD OF LINING PEOPLE UP AND THUS I NEED MORE VOLUNTEERS. WE USED TO JUST BE LIKE, OH, YOU GOT HERE, GET IN LINE. UM, AND NOW WE'RE GONNA BE A LITTLE MORE METHODICAL ABOUT ARE YOU A WALKING GROUP? DO YOU HAVE A HAVE A TRACTOR TRAILER? ARE YOU A HORSE AND BUGGY AND PUT YOU IN UM, A MORE CERTAIN ORDER. SO I NEED DEFINITELY MORE VOLUNTEERS THAN IN THE PAST. SO IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN DOING THE EARLY SHIFT, THAT ONE COULD BE FOR YOU. I KNOW THIS BOARD, UM, HISTORICALLY QUITE A FEW OF YOU HAVE HELPED WITH THE VENDOR CHECK-IN BETWEEN FOOD TRUCKS AND UM, SALES VENDORS AND SPONSORS. THAT WILL BE FROM EIGHT TO ROUGHLY 11. YOU GET, YOU KNOW, RELEASED WHEN EVERYBODY'S IN THE PARK AND DONE THOUGH, SO IT COULD BE A LITTLE EARLIER THAT'LL BE DOWN AT CLOUD. WE ALSO NEED GATE WORKERS AND WORKERS TO WORK IN OUR CITY TENTS. UM, GATE WORKING, YOU WILL BE CHECKING BAGS, WELCOMING PEOPLE, THAT SORT OF THING. CITY TENT WORKERS. I HAVE THREE CITY TENTS OUT THERE. UM, ONE IS THE PARKS AND REC TENT. AND SO I NEED PEOPLE, I WOULD THINK THIS BOARD WOULD DEFINITELY WANNA BE IN THE PARKS AND REC TENT OF ALL OF THEM, BUT I NEED PEOPLE TO WORK IN THOSE TENTS TO BE ABLE TO GIVE OUT INFORMATION, HAVE A WALKIE-TALKIE THAT GOES BACK TO THE, YOU KNOW, UM, DISPATCH HEADQUARTERS TO SAY WE HAVE A LOST KID OR YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU MIGHT BE HELPING WITH. I NEED A STAGE MONITOR. THAT'S A SUPER FUN ONE. YOU CAN JUST BRING A LONG CHAIR AND WATCH THE BAND. UM, AND THEN IF WE RADIO YOU AND SAY WE NEED AN ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE STAGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU JUST HELP US COORDINATE THAT. AND THEN THOSE THREE JOBS, GATE WORKER, TENT WORKER AND STAGE MONITOR KIND OF GO ALL DAY WITH SHIFTS BETWEEN AT STARTING AT 12, STARTING AT THREE, STARTING AT ROUGHLY FIVE, SIX OR SEVEN. SO YES, BRIAN, I I COULD DO LIKE A ONE IN 10 AT LIKE THREE O'CLOCK, THREE FIVE O'CLOCK, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ALRIGHT, THREE O'CLOCK. SO CURRENTLY I HAVE, IT ALL DEPENDS HOW LONG I GET FROM THREE TO SEVEN. I COULD DO THAT. OKAY. THE PARADE IS SATURDAY MORNING, CORRECT? YES. YEAH. YEAH. SO AS LONG AS I GET DONE WITH THE PARADE AND THEN GO HOME FRESH, GET ME NOW. AS LONG AS I GOT TIME TO GET THERE AFTER THE PARADE. OH YEAH, YOU WILL IF YOU DO THREE O'CLOCK TO SEVEN. YEAH, PERFECT. I CAN HELP WITH THE PARADE. OKAY. UM, AT ANY TIME. AND THEN YOU SAID NOON WAS THE EARLIEST SHIFT? YEP. ON, WOULD THAT BE SATURDAY? SATURDAY? YEP. FOR WHATEVER YOU NEED. I CAN HELP WITH THE VENDOR CHECK IN. THANK YOU. AND I'LL DO A TENT SHIFT. DO YOU WANT A BREAK IN IT OR YOU WANNA JUST GO STRAIGHT INTO IT? UM, I MEAN WE WOULD, YOU WOULD GET A BREAK TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, GO EAT SOMETHING AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT DO YOU WANT, UM, YEAH, I'LL JUST DO IT BACK TO BACK BACK SINCE IT'S IN THE SAME PLACE. NOT SURE IF YOU STILL NEED IT, BUT I CAN DO THE SEVEN O'CLOCK PARADE. THANK YOU. YEP, I DEFINITELY DO. AND I CAN DO THE FOOD TRUCKS AT EIGHT. I THINK YOU SAID EIGHT? YEP. OKAY. AWESOME. THANK YOU ALL AND IF ANYBODY ELSE JUST NEEDS TO LIKE DIGEST AND AND COME BACK TO ME, THAT'S FINE TOO. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR HERITAGE PICNIC, WHICH [00:30:01] STARTS AT 11:00 AM UM, AND SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE STARTING, UM, AT NINE TO HELP WITH SETUP AND DO LIKE A NINE TO 11 SHIFT AND THEN WE WOULD NEED PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY WORK THE EVENT FROM 11 TO, I BELIEVE IT'S ONE, LET ME DOUBLE CHECK SO I DON'T MISSPEAK. WHAT DAY IS IT? THAT IS JULY 18TH. YEP. SO IT IS FROM 11 TO ONE. SO THEN I NEED PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY WORK FROM 11 TO ONE. WELL PROBABLY A LITTLE AFTER FOR SOME CLEANUP, LIKE ONE 30. SO NINE TO 11 AND 11 TO ONE 30. ANY TAKERS ONCE WE FIND OUT WHEN THE GAMES ARE ? YEAH, THAT ONE I MIGHT NOT BE AT. FEEL FREE TO, UH, CHECK YOUR SCHEDULES AND GET BACK TO ME TOO. AND THAT IS THE BEARING OF THE, OF THE TIME CAPSULE. AND SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO INCLUDE, MAKE SURE YOU GET THAT APPLICATION INTO THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T WANNA COME WORK, THAT'S FINE, BUT PLEASE STILL COME TO THE PICNIC. IT'LL BE A GREAT TIME. BE A HISTORIC MOMENT. UM, THERE IS REGISTRATION STILL AVAILABLE? WE ARE ASKING PEOPLE TO REGISTER AHEAD OF TIME BECAUSE WE ARE, UM, THE COMMUNITY CARES ORGANIZATION IS GRACIOUSLY ORGANIZING A BUNCH OF DONATED, UM, FOOD THAT WILL BE SERVED. SO YOU'RE GONNA GET THINGS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVE COMMITMENTS FROM LIKE FLICKERS AND LEE'S RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, SO WE'VE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD FOOD COMING. THERE'S A BUNCH MORE OUT THERE TOO. UM, SKYLINE I KNOW IS COMING, SO IT SHOULD BE A REALLY NICE PICNIC ALL PROVIDED FOR YOU ALL FREE. THERE'S ACTIVITIES, THERE'S A FAMILY KIT YOU GET TO TAKE WITH YOU THAT'S AN OFFICIAL TWO 50 KIT FROM THE STATE. LIKE LOTS OF COOL STUFF, BUT JUST MAKE SURE YOU PRE-REGISTER ONLINE. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THOSE. ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL BUSINESS OR ANNOUNCEMENTS? I DO IF YOU LET ME. UM, ON BEHALF OF THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION, I WANTED TO UM, TELL YOU ABOUT THEIR UPCOMING SHARK TANK ACTIVITY SHARK. THEY DID THIS LAST YEAR WHERE THEY BASICALLY INVITED THE PUBLIC TO COME MAKE PITCHES TO THEM. THEY'RE CONDUCTING THAT ON JUNE 30TH. SO IF YOU HAVE HAD AN IDEA THAT THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION SHOULD CHAMPION, IF YOU SAY, HEY, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY FIT IN THE PARKS AND REC BOARD PARADIGM, MAYBE THAT BOARD WOULD WANNA PARTNER WITH US, THAT SORT OF THING, THAT'S THE PERFECT TIME TO GO TALK TO THEM. UM, THE FLOOR WILL BE OPEN AND THEY REALLY WANNA HEAR FROM PEOPLE OR IF SOMEBODY'S EVER COME UP TO YOU AS A BOARD MEMBER AND SAID, HEY, YOU SHOULD DO THIS, AND YOU'RE LIKE, EH, THAT'S REALLY MORE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION VERSUS PARKS, UM, CALL THAT PERSON RIGHT NOW AND TELL THEM TO COME ON THE 30TH BECAUSE THEY WANNA HEAR WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SEE HAPPEN. AND THAT CAN BE ANYTHING THAT PROMOTES ANY FORM OF ART IN THE COMMUNITY AND UM, OR BEAUTIFIES THE COMMUNITY IN ANY WAY. SO, AND THEN I ALSO JUST WANTED TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT THE JUNETEENTH EVENT, UM, FROM THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION, UM, COMMISSION, THEY ARE HOSTING THAT AND IT IS SATURDAY. SO WE HOPE TO SEE EVERYBODY OUT THERE. THEY'VE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD BANDS AND REALLY GOOD FOOD COMING. AND THAT'S ALL I GOT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. DID EVERYONE GET A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING? THE CLOCK DATES ARE INCORRECT. I'M SORRY, . I KNOW THE SECOND ONE IS AT LEAST IT'S THE 27TH, NOT THE 26TH ON NUMBER FOUR. UM, THE CREEK WALK UPDATE IS DENNIS HERE LAST MONTH? YES, HE WAS. OKAY. I'M SURE HE WAS. SO OTHER THAN THAT, CORRECTION, DOES ANYONE SEE ANYTHING ELSE? AND WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES, RACHEL? AND SECOND. ALL RIGHT, RICHARD. [00:35:04] AND IF THERE IS NOTHING ELSE, THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE ON JULY 16TH AND WE WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.