Jan 06, 2026 Council Work Session

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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION. TODAY'S DATE IS JANUARY 6TH, 2026.

[1. Call Meeting To Order/Roll Call]

I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A GREAT BREAK. HOPE YOU ALL HAD A VERY GOOD CHRISTMAS AND HOLIDAY AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR, AND LOOK FORWARD TO STARTING OFF 2026 WITH A BANG AND ALL THE GREAT THINGS WE GOT GOING ON HERE IN THE CITY.

SO WELCOME TO ALL OF YOU BACK, OUR STAFF, AND WELCOME TO EVERYONE WHO IS WATCHING FROM HOME.

THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDER. IT IS NOW 604.

AND ITEM NUMBER TWO WE HAVE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

[2. Approval Of Minutes]

ROLL CALL. OH, I MISSED THAT. IS EVERYONE HERE? TONY? MR. DAVIDSON HERE, MISS BAKER HERE, MR. CAMPBELL HERE, MRS. BERG HERE. MAYOR GORE HERE, MR. AITKINS. MR. LOONEY. OH, THERE IT IS. HERE. MRS. KITCHEN HERE. MR. WEBB HERE. YES, EVERYONE IS HERE.

MR. HAWKINS, LET US KNOW THAT HE IS. ACTUALLY, HE'S OUT OF TOWN, AND HE IS NOT HERE THIS EVENING.

SO NEXT THAT DOES BRING US TO NUMBER TWO WHICH IS A AND B, NOVEMBER 17TH, 2020 FIVE MINUTES AND DECEMBER 2ND, 2020 FIVE MINUTES. TONY DISTRIBUTED THOSE TO EVERYONE.

AND IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, THOSE MINUTES WILL STAND AS APPROVED.

ANYONE. OKAY, THOSE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. NEXT IS NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS OUR WORK SESSION.

TOPICS OF DISCUSSION THIS EVENING. AND WE'LL GET STARTED WITH ITEM THREE A OUR CITY MANAGER'S REPORT JOHN GREAT TO SEE YOU. HOPE YOU HAD A GREAT BREAK. YEAH MAYOR. THANKS

[ City Manager Report]

WE WE HAD OUR TREE LIGHTING, OUR PARADE. SARAH AND STAFF FINALLY GOT ME SOME, SOME PRETTY INTERESTING NUMBERS, SO I THOUGHT I'D SHARE THOSE WITH YOU. SO IT WAS A GREAT NIGHT.

WE HAD A REALLY, REALLY WELL ATTENDED PARADE.

WE HAD ALMOST 3000 SPECTATORS ON THE PARADE ROUTE WITH 141 ENTRIES.

SO AGAIN, CINDY DAVIDSON AND HER GROUP JUST HIT IT OUT OF THE PARK.

JUST REALLY JUST A REALLY NICE EVENT. EVERYBODY CAME TO THIS AREA HERE AROUND THE GOVERNANCE CENTER.

WE HAD OUR TREE LIGHTING, AND IF YOU WERE ABLE TO CATCH IT, THE DRONE SHOW, WHICH WAS 15 MINUTES, THAT WAS JUST REALLY AWESOME. I REALLY I MEAN, IT WAS WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND INCORPORATE THAT.

I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THE, THE STAFF AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK SOMETHING OUT FOR NEXT YEAR AGAIN.

SO A REALLY GOOD DRONE SHOW. TREE LIGHTING WENT OFF WITHOUT A HITCH.

MAYOR. AND, MARK, YOU GUYS DID A GREAT, YOU KNOW, CHEVY CHASE MOMENT THERE WITH THE WITH THE LIGHTING.

WE HAD OUR GRISWOLD MOMENT. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THEN SO WE HAD ABOUT 1500 SPECTATORS HERE THAT WERE AROUND TEN BUSINESSES AND FOUR FOOD TRUCKS.

AGAIN, GREAT COMMENTS FROM FROM CITIZENS THAT WERE HERE.

WE ARE GOING TO BUILD ON THAT. IT'S GOING TO BE BETTER.

OBVIOUSLY WE HAD SOME SOME CONSTRAINTS WITH OUR OUR CURRENT SETUP OUT BACK.

THAT'LL LOOK BETTER NEXT YEAR. SO SO WE'RE GOING TO BUILD ON THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS TO STAFF AND JUST EVERYBODY FOR THAT. JUST A REMINDER FOR EVERYBODY.

WE DO HAVE DOG TAGS ON SALE HERE AT CITY HALL.

WE ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE, WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS, IS IS IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY, BUT WE'RE ALSO IN MIAMI COUNTY.

SO WE DO HAVE MONTGOMERY COUNTY INFORMATION IN MIAMI COUNTY, INFORMATION FOR DOG TAGS ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE.

SO SARAH DID A REALLY NICE POST ABOUT THAT. SO THEY'VE GOT SOME LINKS ON THERE AS WELL.

BUT YOU CAN COME HERE. JUST REMEMBER IF YOU DO COME HERE IT'S CASH ONLY.

SO I JUST GOT A NEW DOG. I'LL BE SEEING YOU. THERE YOU GO.

SARAH IS ACTUALLY I'LL GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO SARAH.

SHE JUST HAD HER BABY YESTERDAY, I BELIEVE. SO SHE'S OFF ON MATERNITY LEAVE, BUT HER STAFF IS STILL HARD AT IT, SO WE DO HAVE A POP UP SHOPS SHOWING. SO WE HAD ONE ON DECEMBER 6TH.

WE HAVE ONE COMING UP ON DECEMBER 10TH. THEN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN HERE, YOU'LL SEE FEBRUARY 7TH, MARCH 7TH, AND APRIL 4TH. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE VENDORS UP AT THE SENIOR CENTER, AND THAT IS GOING TO RUN ON SATURDAYS FROM 10 A.M.

TO 12 P.M. ON THOSE DATES. SO WE DO HAVE SOME REMAINING TIME HERE UNTIL THE END OF THIS WEEK HERE AROUND THE SIX.

WELL, ACTUALLY, NEXT WEEK, THE 16TH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE YARD WASTE SITE OPEN ON MONDAYS THROUGH FRIDAYS, 8 TO 2.

THEY ARE TAKING OPEN LEAVES AND LIVE CHRISTMAS TREE DISPOSAL.

SO THAT'LL RUN THROUGH JANUARY 16TH. AND THAT'S AT THE NEW SITE DOWN ON BRIDGEWATER ROAD.

JUST SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE. WE DO HAVE MONDAY, JANUARY 19TH AS MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY.

WE HAVE OUR CELEBRATION WITH THE DIVERSITY COMMISSION.

THEY'RE GOING TO RUN AN EVENT AT WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL THAT'S GOING TO RUN FROM 11 A.M. TO 2 P.M..

AND IT WILL BE IN THE WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL CAFETERIA.

SOME ENGINEERING UPDATES RUSS PROVIDED FOR ME THIS WEEK.

WE DID RECEIVE A $500,000 GRANT FROM THE OHIO PUBLIC WORKS COMMISSION, WHICH IS FOR THE INSTALLATION.

IF YOU REMEMBER, RUSS LAST YEAR TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO GET SOME REDUNDANCIES IN PLACE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO WE ARE WE WERE SET TO RUN A 24 INCH LINE PARALLEL TO THE ONE THAT'S ON TAYLORSVILLE ROAD AS A REDUNDANT BACKUP FOR SOME OF OUR AGING INFRASTRUCTURE THERE.

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IT IT WILL TIE RIGHT IN. AND THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN SUPPLIES TO THE REST OF THE CITY.

SO THE PROJECT ITSELF IS $2.4 MILLION. IT'S SET TO BEGIN IN EARLY 2027.

ALSO THE CURRENT WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECTS GOING ON. THEY ARE FINISHED UP ON KIRK VIEW. THEY'RE ALMOST DONE ON LEE WOOD, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE MONDAY VILLAGE RIGHT AFTER THAT. SO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGAIN, WE HAD A REALLY, REALLY SOLID YEAR. JUST REALLY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT ALEX AND JASON HAVE CONTINUED TO DO THERE.

GETTING INTO THE BUSINESSES, DOING SOME BUSINESS RETENTION VISITS.

WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD CONVERSATIONS. THE GUYS WERE OUT TODAY.

THEY MET WITH MEYER AND SOME OTHERS BUT SOME REALLY GOOD NUMBERS.

AGAIN, FOR TOTAL NEW BUSINESSES FOR 2025, WE HAD 36 NEW BUSINESSES COMPARING THAT BACK TO 2024, WHERE WE HAD 30 NEW BUSINESSES OPEN. THEN WE ALSO JUST AS WE AS WE TALK ABOUT GRANTS, I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW HOW HOW IMPORTANT STAFF KNOWS THAT GRANTS ARE JASON'S GROUP, THEY WERE ABLE TO GET $150,000 GRANT FOR AN EXPANSION OF A CURRENT BUSINESS, WHICH IS PBS UPON EXECUTIVE. THAT WAS THROUGH THE DAYTON DEVELOPMENT COALITION.

AND THEN WE ALSO GOT ONE OF THE FIRST EVER GRANTS REALLOCATED THROUGH EDGE TO ASSIST WITH HIGH TECH COMING IN UP OFF OF 235. SO AGAIN, REALLY GOOD JOB BY BY THAT GROUP.

SOME FUTURE THINGS YOU'LL SEE. I KNOW IN THE IN THE PAST YEAR, YOU SAW THE WEBSITE VIDEOS THAT WE PUT TOGETHER WITH TIFF AND NCA.

WE HAVE MORE OF THOSE VIDEOS COMING TO EXPLAIN JUST JUST SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLS THAT WE USE AND ALSO SOME BUDGETARY TOOLS THAT ARE COMING.

SO STAY OUT ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THOSE AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

LOVED EVERYTHING I'VE SEEN. I JUST ONE MATTER OF HOUSEKEEPING.

I'LL ASK AS A FAVOR. I DON'T KNOW, BUT MY EYES MIGHT BE GETTING WORSE.

THAT IS AN AWFUL BIG TV BACK THERE. AS WE'RE DOING FUTURE PRESENTATIONS WITH THE.

WITH THAT AS FAR AWAY AS IT CAN, WE USE A LITTLE BIT OF A BIGGER FONT? YES.

THAT'S MY THAT'S ME, NOT THEM. SO YEAH, I'M LIKE, MAN, MAYBE MY EYES ARE JUST BAD, BUT I'M LIKE I'M LIKE SQUINTING TO SEE THAT.

I'M LIKE, WE GOT THAT BIG OF A SPACE BACK THERE. CAN WE JUST MAKE THE FONT A LITTLE BIT BIGGER? WE WILL PRESENTATION SO I CAN HAVE SOME PERSON.

I'M LIKE, MAN, MY BIFOCALS WON'T WORK ALL THAT FAR, BUT I THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE CLICK SHARE TO SHARE IT ON THE SCREENS EVENTUALLY SO THAT YOU COULD HAVE IT. THAT WOULD BE GOOD. OH, NICE. NICE. YEAH. I JUST WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO ALL THE FEATURES THAT ARE AVAILABLE YET, BUT I THINK THERE'LL BE SOME EXPANDED CAPABILITIES, INCLUDING THE ABILITY TO SEE WHAT'S BEING PROJECTED.

THAT'S AWESOME. I JUST LOOKING BACK THERE, I'M LIKE, IT'LL BE JUST A LITTLE BE A LITTLE EASIER TO AT LEAST FOR ME ANYWAY. IF THE PHONE WAS A LITTLE BIGGER, LIKE A CLOCK. YEAH. NANCY. YEAH.

JOHN. YES, MA'AM. JUST ASK. HOW LONG ARE WE KEEPING THE CHRISTMAS TREE UP? PEOPLE LOVE IT. WELL, IT'S SET TO COME DOWN THIS MONTH, BUT IT'S WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE GET SOME GOOD WEATHER TO TO GET IT DOWN.

IF YOU GUYS SAW THEM PUTTING IT UP, THEY PUT IT UP IN SOME PRETTY HIGH WINDS AND SOME PRETTY THEY DID A GREAT JOB.

AGAIN, STAFF WAS AWESOME. BUT IT'S IT'S PROBABLY COMING DOWN THIS MONTH SOMETIME.

SO SOMEONE SAID THEY HOPE THAT THEY KEPT IT UP FOR THE 12 DAYS OF CHRISTMAS AT LEAST.

YEAH IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL DO. THAT'S RIGHT. YOU GOT IT.

YES. MARK. JOHN, YOU HAD A SCREEN THAT SHOWED A NUMBER OF JOBS, AND THEN WHAT EACH JOB WAS VALUED WAS THAT 67 JOBS? YES, AT $75,000. AND IS THAT ANNUALLY? YES, YES. IS THAT $5 MILLION A YEAR? IS MY MATH OFF? THAT'S CORRECT. WOW. WELL, AND ALSO THEY'RE MOVING THEIR WE'LL HAVE THEIR CORPORATE TAX AS WELL BECAUSE THEY'RE MOVING.

THIS IS THEIR THEIR HEADQUARTERS HERE AS WELL. SO TO WARD THREE IS THAT ONE JOB, ONE COMPANY THAT WAS HIGH TECH.

YOU SAW THERE WERE JUST ONE COMPANY? YEAH. THE ONE THAT WE NEGOTIATED TO MOVE TO HUBER HEIGHTS.

THAT'LL THAT'LL SMOOTH SOME OF OUR EDGES. YES, ABSOLUTELY.

YES, KATE. THANK YOU. MAYOR JOHN, I REALLY ENJOYED THE DRONE SHOW.

I THINK EVERYBODY DID. AND I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THAT IT'S GOING TO COME BACK AGAIN THIS YEAR. WE ARE WORKING SOME THINGS.

WE'RE TRYING TO TIE IT IN WITH OUR PROVIDER OF OUR FIREWORKS AS WELL.

SO WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON SOME NEGOTIATIONS NOW.

I THINK IT'S A VERY PRUDENT, ESPECIALLY SOMETIMES WE HAVE DRY WEATHER.

WE CAN'T HAVE FIREWORKS. AND THEN DRONES OTHER THAN FALLING FROM THE SKY, THEY WOULD BE VERY THEY'RE SAFER PRODUCT THAN, THAN OTHER PRODUCTS THAT WE USE THAT DAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU JOHN, AND THANK YOU MAYOR. YES. ANYONE ELSE? YES.

YEAH. CAN WE GET A LIST? GOSH, THIS IS LIKE CAN WE GET A LIST OF WHO MADE THE CITIZEN ACADEMY AND WHAT WORDS THEY'RE IN.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS. SHE WAS IN MY WARD. AND ALSO, DO WE HAVE WHO? SO WE IT WAS A BUSY DAY FOR COMMUNICATIONS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TODAY.

SO I WAS GOING TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING FOR TODAY.

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SO WE'LL DO THE BREAKDOWN BY WARD AS WELL. OKAY.

AND ALSO, WHO GOT THE GRANTS? THERE'S GOING TO BE A PRESENTATION ON MONDAY'S COUNCIL MEETING WHERE JASON'S GOING TO PRESENT THE GRANTS TO THE AWARDEES.

YEP. WE'LL BE BRINGING EVERYBODY IN AND WE'LL HAVE THE BIG CHECKS.

AND THEN THE MORE IMPORTANT, THE SMALL CHECKS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. MARK, I WAS WONDERING IF YOU WERE SATISFIED WITH THE TREE.

WAS THAT WAS THAT NOT BEAUTIFUL? IT WAS GORGEOUS.

YEAH. VERY, VERY NICE TREE. SO I REMEMBER THE NIGHT THAT ANITA HAD BROUGHT UP.

HEY, LET'S LET'S DO A TREE ALONG WITH WHATEVER WE WERE DOING AT THOMAS CLOUD.

THE CITY'S BEEN INCORPORATED SINCE 1981. THAT IS THE FIRST TREE WE'VE HAD THAT'S BEEN THAT LEVEL OF STUNNING.

SO, YEAH, IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. YEAH, IT WAS NICELY DONE.

MY KIDS LIKED IT BETTER THAN WINTERFEST. YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

DO THE LIGHTS CHANGE OR ARE THEY JUST CLEAR LIGHTS? I THINK THEY CHANGE, BUT OKAY I THINK THEY CHANGED.

BUT OKAY. WE'RE UNDER SOME TIME CONSTRAINTS. YEAH.

UNDERSTAND? UNDERSTAND. YEAH. YEAH. IT WAS FANTASTIC.

AND PEOPLE'S MEMORIES ARE BECAUSE I STILL GET PEOPLE SAYING THEY LOVE THE.

THEY LOVE CHARLES HUBER'S TREE BY HIS PLACE. AND I'M LIKE, THAT WAS A RADIO ANTENNA WITH LIGHTS STRUNG FROM IT THAT WAS NOT A TREE.

BUT THE MEMORY THAT PEOPLE HAVE OF THAT, THEY THINK THAT WAS A BIG TREE UP THERE ON THE CORNER OF BRANDT AND TAYLOR OR 0202 AND TAYLORSVILLE, LIKE THAT WAS A RADIO TOWER SINCE I'M TALKING THE CHRISTMAS PARADE, I NEVER REALLY PAID THAT CLOSE OF ATTENTION TO THE CHRISTMAS PARADE UNTIL THIS YEAR. IS THAT MANAGED BY CINDY? YES. YEP. SHE'S. SHE'S GREAT. SO SHE'S SHE'S SHE GETS WITH SARAH.

PUBLIC WORKS POLICE. I MEAN, IT'S A IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, BUT YEAH, SHE, SHE GETS ALL THE VENDOR OR ALL THE PARTICIPANTS SETS EVERYTHING UP AND IT'S. YEAH, WE USED TO DO A 4TH OF JULY PARADE, AND IT TOOK AN ENTIRE JC ORGANIZATION TO MANAGE IT.

I MEAN, THERE WERE MULTIPLE PEOPLE AND WATCHING THAT DAY, I MEAN, SHE LOOKED LIKE A TRAFFIC CONTROLLER.

SO YOU PRETTY MUCH DO WHAT CINDY SAYS WHEN SHE SAYS IT.

SO IT'S THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. YEAH. SOUNDS LIKE I'M VERY FAMILIAR.

I KNOW WHY SCOTT TAKES SUCH GOOD ORDERS NOW. WHY HE'S HAIR IS GREAT.

YEAH, YEAH. BUT YEAH, THAT THAT IS A TREMENDOUSLY WELL MANAGED, WELL OILED ORGANIZATION THAT DAY.

SO YEAH THAT WAS THAT WAS A LOT OF FUN FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.

AND CONSIDERING YOU MEAN THE WEATHER AND THE TEMPERATURE, I MEAN WE STILL HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOW UP AND CAME OUT AND ENJOYED THAT.

SO IT WAS A IT WAS A GOOD DAY FOR SURE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. OKAY. LET'S GET MOVED ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE B WHICH IS THE PURCHASE

[ Purchase Of New Engine - Fire Division]

WE ARE HERE TO REQUEST AUTHORIZATION TO ORDER A NEW FIRE ENGINE THAT'S BEEN IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

I WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE THINGS. IS IN 2023, YOU AUTHORIZED US TO BUY A NEW ENGINE AT A COST OF $751,893, WITH AN ESTIMATED DELIVERY TIME OF 28 TO 34 MONTHS.

WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE WORLD THE SUFFERING THAT CAME TO US EARLY LAST SPRING AND SAID THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MEET THAT DEADLINE THEY OFFERED US AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXIT OUT OF THE CONTRACT WITH WITH NO WORRIES.

WE KIND OF HELD OUR GROUND AND SAID, WE THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PROBABLY FIGURE SOMETHING OUT, AND WE WE WE NEGOTIATED BACK AND FORTH. ASSISTANT CHIEF MULL AND I WITH SUFFERN AND ESSENTIALLY WE TRIED TO COME UP WITH A DEAL THAT WAS A GOOD DEAL FOR BOTH PARTIES.

AND WHAT THAT WAS IS, IS THAT IF YOU ALL WOULD APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF A NEW FIRE ENGINE THAT HAS BEEN IN THE CIP FOR FOR A FEW YEARS, IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, THEY WOULD BUILD US A SECOND FIRE ENGINE AT A COST OF $880,361.75, ROUGHLY A 17% INCREASE. AND THEY WOULD DELIVER BOTH FIRE ENGINES IN NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

SO INSTEAD OF ORDERING TODAY AND WAITING 42 MONTHS WITH THE PROJECTED COST OF JUST OVER $1 MILLION FOR A 40 FOR AN ENGINE THAT'S GOING TO BE DELIVERED IN 42 MONTHS, WE'RE GOING TO WE COULD ORDER ONE THIS THIS MONTH FOR $880,000 AND HAVE BOTH PIECES OF EQUIPMENT IN IN NOVEMBER OF

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WE'RE GOING TO SAVE SOME TIME AND EFFORT. WE'RE ONLY HAVING TO DESIGN ONE TRUCK.

WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE OUR DESIGN, AND THE GUYS HAVE THEIR WISHES AND WANTS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO THE PURCHASE WOULD BE THROUGH SOURCEWELL, WHICH SOURCEWELL IS A NATIONWIDE COOPERATIVE BIDDING SITE.

AND IF AUTHORIZED, WE WOULD TRY TO GET THE ORDER.

WE'RE ASKING FOR A TOTAL OF $900,000, UNDERSTANDING THAT WITH THE TWO ENGINES THAT WOULD BE ORDERING THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO ADD OR SOME CHANGES THAT MAY COME UP ALONG THE WAY. ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL START.

OKAY. THANKS. MAYOR. FIRE. CHIEF. CHIEF. KNISELY.

SO IT DOESN'T INCLUDE. IT'S JUST THE ENGINE AND THE VEHICLE.

IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY RADIO PACKAGE, ANY PAINT. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? NO, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A TOTALLY NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

WE WILL UTILIZE SOME RADIOS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

HEADSETS WILL BE WILL BE NEW AND THEN SOME OTHER EQUIPMENT WE WILL BE TAKING OFF OF OTHER, OTHER APPARATUS. WE WILL HAVE SOME MONEY IN OUR NORMAL OPERATING BUDGET THAT CAN PAY LIKE THE ENGINE IS GOING TO COME WITH LADDERS ON IT.

THE ENGINE COMES WITH LADDERS. BUT FIRE HOSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE WILL USE EXISTING SUPPLIES AND TRY TO KEEP OUR NEW COSTS DOWN AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

THAT WILL LEAVE US. THE OTHER THING THAT THAT WILL DO IS ONE OF THE ENGINES THAT WAS WE ORDERED IN 2023.

THE ENGINE IT'S REPLACING TODAY HAS 109,000 MILES ON IT AND IS 8850 HOURS.

AND THE ENGINE THAT WE'RE REPLACING RIGHT NOW IS 69,000 MILES.

AND 6117 HOURS AS OF THIS AFTERNOON ON IT. SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS, SO THERE'S TWO OLDER ENGINES WILL BE FADED OUT.

AND THESE TWO NEW COMING IN IN NOVEMBER WOULD REPLACE THEM AT THEIR FIREHOUSES.

IS THAT AS PRIMARY FIRE TRUCKS. SO THE, THE THE OLDEST ONE WILL BECOME A PRIMARY BACKUP.

AND THEN WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO KEEP THE OLD GREEN ENGINE BECAUSE IT'S GOT A DETROIT DIESEL IN IT, THAT AS LONG AS WE KEEP PUTTING OIL IN IT AND MAINTAIN VERY LIGHT MAINTENANCE WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE IT FOR TRAINING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT DOESN'T HAVE ALL THE REGENERATIVE THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED ON NEW DIESEL MOTORS.

SO IT'S IT'S A RELIC, BUT IT'S AS LONG AS WE KEEP PUTTING OIL IN IT, IT'LL PROBABLY RUN US AND DO WELL.

OKAY. THANK YOU CHIEF. THANK YOU, MAYOR NANCY.

DIDN'T WE HAVE I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS ON THE ENGINE.

DIDN'T WE HAVE A DISCUSSION A YEAR OR SO AGO ABOUT BEING ABLE TO REUSE THE CHASSIS ON ON SOME OF THESE KNOW THAT WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IS, IS THAT WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THEN WAS IS THE TILLER TRUCK ONE OF THE OPTIONS OF THE TILLER TRUCK HAVING A TRACTOR AND A TRAILER THAT IN THE FUTURE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SWAP OUT THAT THERE ARE THINGS CALLED GLIDER KITS AND REFURBISHMENT.

BUT IF YOU WOULD GO AND LOOK AT THE THE 20 YEAR OLD ENGINE AND THEN YOU WOULD GO AND LOOK AT THE EVEN THE ONE WITH NINE YEARS, THEY DO START GETTING ESPECIALLY THE, THE MECHANICS TELL ME BECAUSE OF WHERE WE'RE PARKED AT AND THE AMOUNT OF SALT AND THINGS THAT ARE AROUND OUR BUILDING, BECAUSE THE SALT TRUCKS ALWAYS LEAVE THERE. WE HAVE WE HAVE A LOT OF CORROSION.

THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF WORK THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE.

THE PUMPS ARE GETTING OLDER AND THINGS. SO SOMETHING LIKE WHAT THEY CALL A GLIDER KIT WOULD WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE THE BEST THING FOR US, BUT THE TILLER. YES. THAT THAT IS ONE OF THE TRACTORS THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY REPLACE IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, MARK. CHIEF, WE DETERMINED A LONG TIME AGO THAT BY NEW BEING ABLE TO EXTEND THE DURATION BEFORE WE HAD TO REPLACE THE VEHICLES HAVE PAID DIVIDENDS FOR MANY DECADES NOW.

CORRECT? YES. AND WITH YOU USING THE TWO THAT YOU'RE REPLACING AS BACKUPS, THAT JUST FURTHER PROLONGS THE LIFE OF OUR EQUIPMENT, DOES IT NOT? YES. IT KEEPS US OUT OF WE'RE HOPING TO TO NEVER BE IN A WE KNOW WE MIGHT BE, BUT WE TRY TO BE OUT OF AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.

IF THERE WOULD BE AN ACCIDENT OR ANY SORT OF THING THAT WOULD CAUSE DAMAGE TO ONE OF THE OTHER PIECES OF APPARATUS.

YES. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. THANKS FOR WORKING THIS OUT.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. YEAH, YEAH, I THINK THE SAME THING, ESPECIALLY WITH HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET THE APPARATUS NOW.

I MEAN, HAVING THE BACKUPS LIKE THAT WHERE WE WE DID HAVE AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.

I MEAN, TAKE THREE, FOUR YEARS TO GET ONE. I MEAN, THAT'S SO.

YEAH. FROM THE GOOD THING FROM THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT, I THINK WE WERE BUYING A MEDIC OR I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT EXACTLY IT WAS.

ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, CONGRESS CALLED IN A LOT OF THE MAJOR FIRE TRUCK MANUFACTURERS AND KIND OF PUT THEM ON NOTICE THAT THEIR, THEIR, THEIR PRACTICES WERE BEING WATCHED. AND I THINK THE CITY OF DETROIT HAS FILED A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT,

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IT'S GOING TO BE THAT COLOR RED, AND THIS DOOR IS GOING TO BE HERE AND ALL THAT.

SO WE ARE SEEING SOME IMPROVEMENT, AND I'M HOPING MAYBE IN MAYBE, MAYBE THE NEXT ROUND OF FIRE APPARATUS WE COME TO YOU, MAYBE THE THE PRODUCTION TIME WILL BE A LITTLE SHORTER.

OKAY. THANKS. MAYOR. CHIEF, YOU BROUGHT IT UP ABOUT THE SALT.

ARE THEY STILL GOING TO HAVE THAT SALT BARN AT 23.

I THINK THEY'RE PLANNING ON KEEPING THE SALT BIN THERE SO THEY CAN RUN TWO OPERATIONS.

BUT JOHN MIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO KEEP IT AS A SECONDARY.

SO IF THEY'RE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CITY, THE CREWS THERE CAN STOP IN AND GET SALT.

AND I MEAN, IT'S IT'S STILL USABLE. SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT BARN. SO WE MIGHT STILL HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH THE NEW TRUCKS.

STILL THE SALT AROUND THERE. YEAH. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THERE'S SOME TREATMENT WHERE THEY GO AND THEY COAT THE BOTTOM WITH OIL, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE ANY OF THE SILVER BULLETS END UP CAUSING A PROBLEM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

OKAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MAYOR. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? DON? THANK YOU. MAYOR. YEAH, CHIEF, I APPLAUD THIS AS I MIGHT BE NOT.

I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT YOUR RAPID RESPONSE UNIT AND HOW THAT'S ACTUALLY HELPING YOU TO FURTHER THE LIFE OF PIECES OF EQUIPMENT LIKE THIS.

COULD YOU TELL US HERE ON COUNCIL A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE RAPID RESPONSE UNIT WITH REGARD TO EQUIPMENT LIFETIMES. OH, YEAH. SO WE'RE WE'RE STILL TRYING TO TIGHTEN DOWN EVERYTHING AND GET THE OPERATION TO WHERE WE'RE AT THE, THE PEAK POINT OF EFFICIENCY. WE HAVE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE TO PUT REINS ON, AND THAT'S A GOOD THING.

SO WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT TO WHERE THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT TAKING THE BIG TRUCKS OUT AS MUCH. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HEAR SOMEBODY NEEDS HELP AND THEY THINK THEY CAN GET THERE FASTER, THE BIG TRUCKS ARE STILL LEAVING A COUPLE TIMES.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE ON TRACK TO REDUCE THE THE ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE VEHICLE.

IT IS A PICKUP TRUCK. IT'S A FORD F-250 PICKUP TRUCK.

WE LEASE IT ON A 3 TO 4 YEAR BASIS. SO IT'S ALWAYS UNDER WARRANTY.

SO THE MOTOR GOES. SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH THE MOTOR. IT'S UNDER WARRANTY. IT'S THE MOST FUEL EFFICIENT BECAUSE IT'S THE THE LATEST AND GREATEST AND AND STILL NEW ENOUGH.

BUT ANYWAYS, OUR OUR CONCEPT IS TO RUN THE WHEELS OFF OF THAT DURING ITS LEASE PERIOD AND DURING A NEW PERIOD.

AND THEN WE'RE LEAVING THOSE BIG TRUCKS BEHIND.

ONE TO TO SAVE WEAR AND TEAR, BUT THEN ALSO LEAVE THEM AVAILABLE FOR ANOTHER FIRE OR ANOTHER EMERGENCY THAT'S GOING ON.

RIGHT NOW, I THINK THE DATA SHOWS US THAT WE ARE ON TRACK TO REDUCE BIG APPARATUS ASSIGNMENTS BY 940, 940 RESPONSES A YEAR. THE SECONDARY PART IS, IS THAT THE APPARATUS, THE WEAR AND TEAR ON THE APPARATUS IS IMPORTANT.

BUT IF YOU REMEMBER, IN 2022, WE CAME TO YOU TALKING ABOUT FIRE DEPARTMENT STAFFING AND, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS TERMS OF BASICALLY PEOPLE GETTING BURNT OUT, CHASING, CHASING MEDICS AND, AND TAKING A LOT OF CALLS.

AND WHAT WE'RE ALSO DOING NOW IS, IS THAT THE TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THAT ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE VEHICLE THEY, THE THOSE PEOPLE REALLY LIKE DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

BUT THEN THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE KIND OF NOT HAVING TO CHASE MEDICS AROUND NEAR AS MUCH.

SO THEM BEING IN SERVICE AND AVAILABLE FOR THE CALL IS ALSO REDUCING WEAR AND TEAR ON THEM AS WELL.

OUTSTANDING. THANK YOU. CHIEF. THANKS, MAYOR.

THANKS, TOM. ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE THAT ON TO MONDAY'S COUNCIL MEETING. NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM THREE C,

[ City Staffing Levels/Table Of Organization]

OKAY. YEAH. KATIE. THANK YOU. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO TONIGHT THIS LEGISLATION IS OUR STAFFING LEVELS AND FOR ITS FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS WITHIN THE CITY.

TONIGHT I'M RECOMMENDING RECOMMENDATIONS, RECOMMENDING AMENDMENTS TO THIS LEGISLATION TO INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS THAT WERE APPROVED IN THE 2026 BUDGET.

SO THOSE INCLUDE THREE ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS, ONE ADDITIONAL DISPATCHER, AND THEN ONE ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION. SO YOU WILL SEE THOSE. SO THE PATROL OFFICERS WILL GO FROM 45 TO 48.

THE DISPATCHERS WILL GO FROM 15 TO 16 AND THE MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN POSITIONS WILL GO TO 21 TO 22 OF THOSE POSITIONS.

I BELIEVE OTHER POSITIONS WERE DISCUSSED, BUT THOSE JUST THOSE POSITIONS ARE ALREADY ON THE STAFFING LEVELS. THAT WAS JUST A BUDGETARY, BUDGETARY ISSUE. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. OKAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY'S MEETING? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE THAT ON. NEXT UP IS 3D, WHICH IS CITY SALARY RANGES AND WAGE LEVELS.

[ City Salary Ranges/Wage Levels]

[00:25:02]

THE RANGES WILL BE MOVED. RECOMMENDATIONS TO MOVE THE RANGES.

AND THAT DISCUSSION WILL BE HELD TONIGHT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND IF THAT'S APPROVED THIS I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS TO MONDAY'S MEETING FOR APPROVAL.

SO AT THIS POINT, WE'LL JUST HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION FIRST. OKAY. BASED ON THE OUTCOME OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION THEY WOULD MOVE TO MONDAY.

YEAH, OKAY. NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE, WHICH IS THE CITY HALL RENOVATION AND AWARDING THAT CONTRACT.

[ City Hall Renovation - Award Contract ]

IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY. I THINK YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT.

I DID PUT THE ORIGINAL PLANS THAT WE DISCUSSED ORIGINALLY.

WENT OUT TO BID. WE HAD FIVE, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PACKET, WE HAD FIVE CONTRACTORS BID.

THE LOWEST AND BEST WAS WESTERHEIDE OUT OF SIDNEY, OHIO.

WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND BACKGROUND CHECKS.

THEY HAVE DONE OTHER PROJECTS WITH OTHER CITIES FEW COUNTIES.

EVERYBODY HAD GOOD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THEM. THEY ALSO HAVE DONE PROJECT SEVERAL YEARS AGO WITH OUR ARCHITECT APP ARCHITECT THAT'S OVERSEEING THIS PROJECT, WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT. AND WE'RE ASKING TO BE APPROVED AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AS A RESOLUTION.

GOING AHEAD. AWARDING TO BID TO WESTERHEIDE AND ALLOW THE LAW DIRECTOR AND THE CITY MANAGER TO CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT.

SPEAKING WITH THEM AND ALL THE INTERVIEWS WE GET EVERYTHING SIGNED IN THE AGREEMENT.

THEN THEY PLAN ON STARTING THE PROJECT FEBRUARY 1ST WITH A COMPLETION DATE.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PACKET OF 395 DAYS. THEY ARE QUITE AWARE THEY WERE UP AGAINST SOME LEASE AGREEMENTS THAT THE FIRST PART OF 27. SO THEY CAN THEY THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALREADY STARTING TO MAKE PHONE CALLS AND LINING UP CONTRACTORS AND GETTING WINTER WORK READY TO GO SINCE MOST OF IT'S GOING TO BE INSIDE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ALEX? OKAY. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

ALEX, HAVE WE MADE DESIGN CHOICES FOR THE NEXT STAGE FOR THAT BUILDING LIKE INTERIOR DESIGN AND YES, EVERYTHING WAS IT. WE ACTUALLY DID VR SESSIONS WITH ALL OUR STAFF AND PICKED OUT KIND OF THE COLOR SCHEMES OF EVERYTHING.

AND WORKING WHAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN IN THE RESOLUTION, WHICH WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL WITH IS THE FURNITURE PACKAGE.

WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING A MEETING TOMORROW ON THAT.

BUT YES, ALL THE INTERNALS THE COLORS WERE ALL PICKED OUT.

WE HAD A THE VR SESSIONS ACTUALLY WERE PRETTY NEAT BECAUSE STAFF ACTUALLY GOT TO BE ABLE TO WALK TO THEIR OFFICES AND LOOK AT THE SPACES WE DID DISCOVER DURING THE VR SESSION THAT IN THE BREAK ROOM, THE MICROWAVE WAS TOO HIGH.

BECAUSE NO ONE COULD ACTUALLY TOUCH IT IN THE VR SESSION.

SO WE ACTUALLY LOWERED THE CABINETS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THERE.

BUT YES, THEY ALL BEEN PICKED UP. SO IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD SEE THE DESIGN CHOICES IN THE PACKET? I THINK IT'S THE FINAL ANSWERS IN THE PACKET.

YEAH, I BELIEVE THERE IS. LET ME DOUBLE CHECK.

YEAH. AND THE PRESENTATION, IT SHOWS THE ACTUAL OFFICES, NOT ALL OF THEM IN THAT PRESENTATION WHEN WE ASKED TO GO OUT TO BID.

THAT'S WHY I INCLUDED IT. SO YOU CAN JUST KIND OF LOOK AT IT AGAIN IN THE PACKET.

BUT YES, YOU'LL SEE THE COLOR SCHEMES THAT WE PICKED OUT VERY SIMILAR TO SOME OF THIS.

EXCUSE ME. WILL IT MATCH THIS? THE COLORS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT IT DOES LIKE THE CARPETING WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH CARPET SQUARES AND AND KIND OF DESIGN. SAME MOTIF. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY? OKAY. SEEING NONE WE'LL MOVE THAT ON. NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE F, WHICH IS THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT MEMORIAL ASSOCIATION DONATION.

[ Montgomery County Law Enforcement Memorial Association Donation]

ONE IS BUTLER'S POLICE CHIEF AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE GOT A REALLY AMAZING MONUMENT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ERECT.

THEY'VE GOT A LOCATION IN DOWNTOWN DAYTON AROUND THE DAYTON MASONIC HOME MASONIC CENTER.

THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THE RENDERING FROM THE ARTIST.

SO THEY'VE BEEN GOING TO EACH JURISDICTION. THAT OBVIOUSLY IS A MEMBER OF MONTGOMERY COUNTY'S LAW ENFORCEMENT GROUP TRYING TO GET SOME DONATIONS TO KIND OF FINALIZE THAT AND TO GET THAT INTO PLAY HERE EVEN THIS YEAR. SO I MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THEY'VE ALREADY GOT DONATIONS FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY,

[00:30:01]

SO AGAIN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS SHOWS OUR SUPPORT THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE HERE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND JUST THE JOB THAT THEY DO.

AND AGAIN, YOU GUYS WILL BE ON THIS, ON THIS MEMORIAL.

SO I RECOMMEND THAT WE MAKE THIS DONATION. THANK YOU JOHN I AGREE.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS DONATION? OKAY. ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY? OKAY.

THANK YOU. AND NEXT UP IS ITEM 3G, WHICH IS THE CREEKSIDE DEVELOPMENT TIF DISTRICT.

[ Creekside Development TIF District]

HAPPY NEW YEAR. THIS WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CREEKSIDE WOODS TIF THAT WE'RE PRESENTLY WORKING ON. THIS TIF FIRST CAME TO COUNCIL IN THE SUMMER OF LAST YEAR TO REVIEW ITS 159 TOWNHOMES.

AND SO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TIF, WE HAVE DONE ALL OF THE NOTIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THIS RESIDENTIAL TIF TO NOTIFY THE SCHOOLS, NOTIFY THE COUNTY AND THE PROPERTY OWNER. AND THERE'S ALSO A PUBLIC HEARING THAT NEEDS THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD.

AND I'M LOOKING TO HAVE THAT NEXT MONDAY. OKAY.

AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS IS ALSO A NON-SCHOOL NONSCHOOL TIP. CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? YES, NANCY. THIS HAS TO BE DONE BEFORE CONSTRUCTION STARTS, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. TO CAPTURE THE FULL. RIGHT. FULL IMPROVEMENT.

OUT OF THE GROUND. YEP. AND SO THERE ARE CERTAIN STEPS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN IN A CERTAIN ORDER AT A CERTAIN TIME.

AND ONE OF THOSE IS, IS BEFORE COUNCIL CAN APPROVE THE TIF.

30 DAYS OUT HAS TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING. AND YOU SAID THAT YOU THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WHEN? NEXT MONDAY. OH, NEXT MONDAY. OKAY. THANK YOU.

MONDAY THE 12TH OR MONDAY THE 12TH. OKAY. SO SO THE ASK HERE IS JUST FOR THE JUST LETTING US KNOW THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 12TH.

YES, SIR. OKAY. THERE WILL NOT BE A FIRST READING OF THE LEGISLATION.

CORRECT. THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN UNTIL FEBRUARY 6TH.

PARDON ME. FEBRUARY 17TH WILL BE THE FIRST WILL BE AT THE WORK SESSION AND ON FEBRUARY 23RD WILL BE A FIRST READING AND HOPEFULLY FINAL ADOPTION AS AN EMERGENCY. WHY WOULD WE NOT? OH, OKAY. GO AHEAD. YEAH. WHY WOULD WE NOT DO THE FIRST READING AFTER THE BECAUSE THERE HAS TO BE A WAITING PERIOD.

IT HAS TO BE A 30 DAY PERIOD BEFORE. YES, AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

OBJECTIONS? MOVING PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CREEKSIDE TIFF. CREEKSIDE WOODS. TIFF TO MONDAY.

OKAY. WE'LL MOVE THAT ON. AND NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE H.

[ City Council - Public Records Training Designee]

OKAY. YES. UNDER THE OHIO PUBLIC RECORDS LAW, AS MOST OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH ALL APPOINTED OR ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE TO ATTEND A PUBLIC RECORDS TRAINING SEMINAR OR APPOINT A DESIGNATE A DESIGNEE TO DO SO ON THEIR BEHALF FOR EACH NEW TERM OF OFFICE.

SO, WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS NANCY BIRGE, KATE BAKER, ANITA KITCHEN, AND MARK CAMPBELL BEGINNING NEW TERMS ON JANUARY 1ST OF THIS YEAR. CONGRATULATIONS FOR YOUR REELECTION, WHICH WILL CELEBRATE NEXT MONDAY AT THE COUNCIL MEETING.

WE NEED TO MAKE THAT DESIGNATION. I'M THE DESIGNEE AS THE CLERK OF COUNCIL TO ATTEND THIS REQUIRED TRAINING ON THEIR BEHALF.

HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD NOT PRECLUDE COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM ATTENDING THE PUBLIC RECORDS TRAINING ON THEIR OWN IF THEY WISH TO DO SO.

IN ADDITION, JUST HAVING ME AS THE DESIGNEE ENSURES THAT THE TRAINING REQUIREMENT IS MET IN CASE COUNCIL IS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THE TRAINING ON THEIR OWN.

SO WITH THAT, I WOULD ASK FOR COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF THIS RESOLUTION ON MONDAY'S AGENDA.

I HAVE A QUESTION I JUST ASK YOU ANYWAY. SO. ANY QUESTIONS? CONCERNS WITH TONY BEING THE DESIGNEE. OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THAT ON TO MONDAY.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP WOULD BE ITEM THREE, WHICH IS THE 2026 RULES OF COUNCIL.

[ 2026 Rules Of Council]

I DID SUBMIT A REDLINE DRAFT VERSION OF SOME PROPOSED CHANGES.

ACTUALLY, THERE'S ONLY ONE CHANGE OF SIGNIFICANCE, AND THAT WAS JUST TO REFLECT AN EARLIER DECISION THAT WAS MADE BY COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER

[00:35:05]

OKAY, SO I WOULD ASK FROM A COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE, WOULD YOU LIKE ANOTHER ROUND FROM THIS WORK SESSION TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION TO REVIEW RULES OF COUNCIL TO MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A FOLLOWING MEETING OR ARE WE OKAY WITH THE WAY THE RULES OF COUNCIL STAND RIGHT NOW WITH TONY'S CHANGE REGARDING THE SUMMER SCHEDULE? AND MOVE THIS ON TO MONDAY'S MEETING.

SO WHAT? WHAT SAY YOU ALL? AND I MIGHT MENTION, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING THAT PRECLUDES COUNCIL FROM AMENDING THE RULES OF COUNCIL ANYTIME YOU COULD DO IT AT ANY MEETING. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO DO AN EXHAUSTIVE REVIEW ANNUALLY TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING THAT NEEDS UPDATING. ANY COMMENTS? NANCY? I, I READ TONY'S EDIT, AND I THINK IT'S TOTALLY APPROPRIATE.

I HAVE NOT I DON'T REMEMBER ANY DISCUSSIONS DURING THE YEAR THAT WOULD DRIVE ANY, ANY FURTHER CHANGES IN THE RULES THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING RIGHT NOW.

SO I'M I'M ALL RIGHT WITH MOVING AHEAD WITH IT.

OKAY. SO WOULD THERE BE ANY OTHER OBJECTIONS TO JUST MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY WITH THE DRAFT OF CHANGES THAT TONY HAS MADE? ANITA I'LL BRING IT UP AGAIN. I JUST LIKE THE PUBLIC STUFF RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING, NOT AT THE END, JUST SO PEOPLE CAN SAY THEIR PIECE AND LEAVE.

BUT THAT'S ME. BUT THESE ARE OUR RULES. YEAH, BUT WE ALSO WORK FOR THE PUBLIC.

AND I THINK LOOKING AT THEIR TIME ELEMENTS. AND IF THEY HAVE A CONCERN THAT WE NEED TO LISTEN TO IT, BUT WHY MAKE THEM SIT THROUGH THE ENTIRE MEETING? TO SAY IT, THEY HAVE FAMILIES. THEY HAVE LIVES AS WELL, BUT SOMETHING'S OBVIOUSLY BOTHERING THEM.

SO I JUST LIKE IT AT THE BEGINNING. AND THAT'S ME.

TAKE IT. FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, WE HAVEN'T REALLY RECEIVED THAT MUCH ADVERSE FEEDBACK TO HAVING IT MOVED AT THE END.

I THINK INITIALLY PEOPLE, IT WAS JUST A CHANGE.

BUT, YOU KNOW I TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AND I MEAN, I HAVEN'T HAD HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT ISSUE.

AND AS YOU SAID BEFORE, IF SOMEBODY BRINGS SOMETHING UP IN THE FUTURE, WE CAN ALWAYS DISCUSS IT AND CHANGE IT IF APPROPRIATE.

YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. SO ONE LAST TIME I WOULD JUST ASK A MAJORITY OBJECTION ON THE CURRENT RULES WITH TONY.

IS THAT IT? OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON.

WE'LL MOVE THAT TO MONDAY. NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE J, WHICH IS THE 2026 VICE MAYOR TONY.

[ 2026 Vice Mayor]

DO YOU HAVE A NOMINATION FOR VICE MAYOR? YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE UNUSUAL.

DOCTOR FRED COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT I DID TELL HIM I WOULD THROW HIS HAT IN THE RING FOR HIM.

SO I'M NOMINATING FRED AKINS FOR VICE MAYOR. OKAY, SO WE HAVE FRED AS A NOMINEE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINEES FOR VICE MAYOR? NANCY.

I WOULD LIKE TO PUT MY NAME IN THERE. I FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE A WOMAN'S BEEN A VICE PRESIDENT.

A VICE VICE MAYOR. THERE'S THREE OF US ON COUNCIL.

AND I. THAT DOESN'T TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM FRED.

I THINK THAT HE WOULD BE A VERY GOOD VICE VICE MAYOR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. NANCY. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? NOMINATE KATE. KATE BAKER. I IN THE FUTURE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERYBODY BE ABLE TO DO THIS, AND I'M NOT INTERESTED AT THIS TIME, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT, I THINK IT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD REALLY GOOD PIECE OF,

[00:40:02]

BUT THANK YOU, BRIAN. ANYONE ELSE? ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? OKAY. SO WE'LL SEE. THREE. OBVIOUSLY FRED, NANCY AND KATE ON MONDAY'S AGENDA.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IF WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH PAST PRACTICE, WE'VE PLACED THE MOTIONS ON THE AGENDA IN THE ORDER THAT THE NOMINATIONS WERE MADE AND THEN THEY WERE VOTED ON. YEP. YEAH, THAT'S THAT ORDER.

SO THAT'S HOW WE'VE DONE IT EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN THE MAYOR. YEAH THAT'S FINE. OKAY.

AND LAST WE HAVE ITEM THREE K WHICH IS THE EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING MATTERS.

[ Executive Session - Collective Bargaining Matters]

IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? YEAH. BEFORE WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? I'M NOT RELATED TO THIS. YOU CAN WAIT TILL WE COME BACK AFTER WE CLOSE OUT.

YEAH. BECAUSE WE CAN. YEAH, WE COME BACK OUT.

THEN WE'LL DO. WE'LL OPEN UP FOR ANY ANY COUNCIL COMMENTS? SURE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION. OKAY, TONY, CALL THE ROLL.

MISS BAKER. YES. MR. CAMPBELL? YES. MRS. BERG.

YES. MAYOR GORE? YES. MR. LOONEY. YES. MRS. KITCHEN.

YES. MISTER WEBB. YES. MR. DAVIDSON. YES. OKAY.

AND MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION CARRIES 8 TO 0.

SO ONCE EXECUTIVE SESSION IS OVER, WE'LL COME BACK AND LET EVERYONE KNOW IF ANY ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN.

OKAY. IT IS NOW 741. WE HAVE COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THERE ARE TWO ITEMS TO ADD TO MONDAY'S AGENDA.

WE HAVE TWO COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS, ONE FOR THE IAFF AND THE OTHER FOR AFSCME.

SO THOSE WILL BE ADDED TO MONDAY'S AGENDA. AND I DO KNOW THAT WE HAD A COUPLE COMMENTS FOR SOME CITIZENS COMMENTS TO OR I'M SORRY FOR COUNCIL COMMENTS TO WRAP UP.

SO NANCY, IF YOU HAD SOMETHING. YEAH. YES. I'M REALLY HAPPY AT HOW EVERYTHING WENT OVER THE HOLIDAYS FOR OUR PARADE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND HOW WE'RE JOINING WITH THE NONPROFITS IN THE AREA TO PULL OFF ALL OF THESE EVENTS, BECAUSE WE NEED THE VOLUNTEERS AND EVERYTHING.

I WOULD ASK THAT THE CITY ESTABLISH A POLICY ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO INTERFACE WITH NONPROFITS IN THE FUTURE. THAT TALKS ABOUT THE FIVE W'S OR WHATEVER, SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS HOW WE'RE OPERATING.

WE HAVE FULL TRANSPARENCY, AND THERE'S NO QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THINGS ARE BEING DONE.

IT'S ACTUALLY ON OUR RADAR. I APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH.

OKAY. THAT'S ALL. OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. SEEING NOTHING. IT IS NOW 743, AND THIS WORK SESSION IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.