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OKAY.

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ALL RIGHT.

IT IS 6 34.

[ AGENDA PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road November 20, 2025 6:30 P.M.]

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND BEGIN.

TONIGHT'S EVENING, WE'LL START WITH THE ROLL CALL.

OKAY.

MR. DADDY.

HERE.

MR. HILL? HERE.

MS. FISHER? HERE.

MR. BROWN? HERE.

MS. TAYLOR? HERE.

MR. MOORE? HERE.

MR. BLACK? HERE.

MR. SCHNEIDER? HERE.

MS. KINS.

FRANK, MR. IR AND RON DID LET US KNOW THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE HERE.

ALRIGHT.

AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH WE IN OUR NEW APPOINTEE.

YOU? YES.

ALL THEN WE'LL REPEAT AFTER.

OKAY.

I STATE YOUR NAME.

I'M MICHELLE FISHER.

DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE CONSTITUTION UNITED STATES, THIS COURT PROSECUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF OHIO, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF OHIO.

THE CHARTER IN ALL ORDINANCES.

THE CHARTER IN ALL, OR ORDINANCES, SORRY.

OF THE CITY? OF HEIGHTS.

OF HEIGHTS.

AND I THANKFULLY, I THANKFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE TO BEST OF MY ABILITIES DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE, THE BEST OF MY ABILITIES.

SO HELP ME.

YEAH, LET'S HAVE ONE OF THE LIKE HANDS, LIKE POST AND THEN, ALRIGHT.

AND I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER OPENING REMARKS, SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR CITIZENS COMMENTS.

THIS, THAT WOULD BE YOU TOO.

I DID WANNA SPEAK.

I, NO, UM, I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS, HOW DO YOU GUYS GET NOMINATED AND YOUR POSITIONS FILLED? UH, THERE IS AN APPLICATION THAT WE FILL OUT.

OH.

AND THEN WE GO THROUGH AN INTERVIEW PROCESS AND IT'S APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.

OKAY.

IF RECOMMENDED.

SO DOES EACH ONE TAKE A PARK AND LIKE, DO YOU MAINTAIN IT OR IS IT A GROUP EFFORT OR? WE ALL COLLECTIVELY WORK TOGETHER.

OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

I JUST BEEN CURIOUS.

THAT WASN'T THE QUESTION.

WE'RE HERE BECAUSE OF THAT WORK.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

SO DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? NO, I'M GLAD.

I'M, I'M THE, UH, QUARTER BEHIND THE NAME TAGS.

WE USED TO COME HERE AND THERE WAS NO NAME TAGS SO I KEPT BU SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU GUYS DO HAVE NAME TAGS AND THEY'RE CORRECTING THE RIGHT ORDER THERE TOO.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OLD BUSINESS.

AND CHRIS ISN'T HERE.

SO I HAVE THE YMCA UPDATE.

UH, THEY HOSTED THEIR ERRS RECOGNITION LUNCHEON ON NOVEMBER 12TH WITH THE SENIOR CENTER.

THEY HAD 140 VETERANS AND THEIR GUEST AT THE LUNCH, THEIR GUEST SPEAKER WAS RETIRED LIEUTENANT GENERAL MICHAEL LER.

THE RIBBON CUTTING AND DEDICATION FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE YMCA WAS HELD ON NOVEMBER 14TH AT THEIR ANNUAL TRUNK RETREAT IN OCTOBER.

THEY HAD WORK 4,500 PEOPLE COME THROUGH AT TWO HOURS AND THEY ARE LOOKING TO HAVE MORE OPEN PICKLEBALL AND OPEN VOLLEYBALL FOR ADULTS WITH THE NEW GYMNASIUM STARTING IN DECEMBER.

AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CITY UPDATE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF REMINDERS ABOUT, UM, EVENTS AND ITEMS COMING UP.

THE FIRST IS THAT WE DO HAVE A MEETING ON DOLE PARK WITH OUR CONSULTANT FIRM ON DECEMBER 3RD.

SO RESIDENTS ARE INVITED TO ATTEND THAT AS WELL AS ANY WORK MEMBERS HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO.

UM, AND THAT CONSULTANT WILL TAKE PEOPLE THROUGH THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY AND LEAD SOME ACTIVITIES I THINK TO, UH, FURTHER GLEAN INSIGHT INTO WHAT'S DESIRED IN THE PARK.

ALSO, ON SATURDAY DECEMBER 6TH, WE HAVE OUR ANNUAL TREE LIGHTING.

SO THIS WILL BE TAKING PLACE AT THE NEW GOVERNANCE CENTER.

I LOCATED AT 61 31 RAMP PIKE.

UM, THERE IS KIND OF A COMMON, UH, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A LITTLE PARK SPACE IN THE BACK IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ALONG BACK THERE ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THAT'S WHERE THE TREE LIGHTING AND SOME FESTIVITIES WILL TAKE PLACE.

UM, WE'RE REALLY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITY PARTNERS IN THIS ONE.

SO THERE'S THE, THE ROTARY

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CLUB, UM, COMMUNITY CARES, OPTIMIST CLUB, UM, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, UH, AND I IN THE LIBRARY.

SO LOTS OF PEOPLE GETTING INVOLVED, UM, TO COME OUT AND MAKE IT SPECIAL.

SO PLEASE DO COME, UM, WITH YOUR FAMILY.

AND WE, UM, THERE'S A PARADE FROM THREE TO FOUR.

IT IS GOING TO GO FROM HUBER CENTER AND THEN KIND OF HORSESHOE AROUND GRANT AND THEN DOWN FISHBURG THERE BY THE ATHLETIC FOUNDATION.

SO LOTS OF PLACES TO STAND AND WATCH THAT TAKE PLACE.

AND THEN THE, THE TREE LIGHTING EVENT WILL START IMMEDIATELY AFTER AT 4:00 PM WE ANTICIPATE HAVING THE TREE AT FIVE 15.

AND THEN THERE IS A DRONE SHOW AT SIX O'CLOCK.

SO YOU WILL SEE SOME CHRISTMAS LIGHTS UP IN THE SKY.

UH, IF YOU'RE REALLY ANYWHERE WITHIN A COUPLE BLOCKS YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT.

SO YOU COULD WATCH THAT EVEN FROM, FROM A SHOPPING CENTER DOWN THE ROAD.

I HAVE UPDATES ON OUR MAYOR'S MONARCH LEDGE.

I DETERMINE THE END OF YEAR REPORT ON THAT.

UM, WE DID MEET THREE STANDARDS.

UM, SOME WE MET THREE OR FOUR TIMES OVER, SO THAT'S GOOD.

A LOT WITH OUR POLLINATOR BED WORK.

UM, HELPED MEET THAT.

AND SO WE'LL HEAR BACK FROM THEM ON GETTING OUR RECOGNITION SOON.

AND THEN, UM, THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE SECOND READING OF OUR TREE ORDINANCE.

THEY ASSIGNED MUTUAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE TREE CAMP IN THE CITY TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND THE PARKS MANAGER.

AND TOGETHER, UM, WE JOINTLY MANAGE THE TREES.

IT ALSO PUTS INTO PLACE A TWO YEAR TIMELINE FOR US TO DEVELOP A TREE MASTER PLAN USING THIS BOARD.

UM, OR IF WE DECIDE TO, WE GET INTO IT, THINK WE NEED TO MAKE A A SEPARATE TREE BOARD, WE CAN ALSO DO THAT.

BUT WE'LL START WITH SOME BASICS, UM, WITH THIS BOARD AND UM, THAT'LL PUT US ON A TWO YEAR TRACK TO THAT TREE MASTER PLAN SO THAT MASTER PLAN COULD END UP AMENDING HOW WE MANAGE TREES AT, AT THE RECOMMENDATION EVERYTHING.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, UH, IT IS MUTUAL MANAGEMENT, UM, PARTS MANAGER AND THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND IT IS OUR LAST PIECE THAT WE NEED TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR TREE CITY USA.

SO, UM, I INTEND TO APPLY FOR ONCE THAT ORDINANCE IS PASSED TO APPLY FOR TREE CITY USA RECOGNITION.

UM, WE'LL GET IT THIS YEAR WE'RE MEETING ALL OF THEIR STANDARDS AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE CONTINUE THAT FOREVER, UM, TO CARE ABOUT OUR CARE COMMUNITY.

AND THOSE ARE MY UPDATES.

JUST I, I BELIEVE.

WELL GREAT UPDATES.

UM, THE MONARCH PLEDGE I THINK IS AN ANNUAL THING SO I HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR.

IT'S JUST, YOU JUST KEEP GOING SO THAT'S AWESOME.

YEP.

ALRIGHT, WITH THAT WE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEW BUSINESS STARTING WITH FOR YOU AN ANNUAL TOPICS LIST.

SO YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, AN ANNUAL SCHEDULE.

I DID CHANGE IT AND EDIT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I FIT IN AT BOTTOM OUR PROPOSAL MEETING DATES FOR NEXT YEAR.

I THINK CHRIS ALSO MADE YOU A SCHEDULE OF MEETING DATES AND I'M NOT SURE WE HAD ON THERE FOR MARCH.

UM, BUT WE'LL GET TO THAT IN THE NEXT BULLET POINT.

BUT UM, IF EVERYONE WOULD TAKE A LOOK PLEASE IN JANUARY, UM, WE WOULD BE ELECTED NEW OFFICERS FEBRUARY DISCUSSION OF THE TREE GIVEAWAY AND ASSIGNING ALL THOSE VOLUNTEER ROLES IN THE LAST MINUTE DECISIONS MEETING MADE.

UM, IN MARCH, THIS IS WHEN THE FOR COUNCIL UPDATE WOULD BE HELD.

THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD LOOK TO ASSIGN SECRET SHOPPER ROLES.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE BOARD IS STILL INTERESTED IN, WE MIGHT REVISIT THAT.

AND THEN WE REVIEW THE SUMMER PROGRAM PLANS HELP THAT THE Y AND THE COURSE DEPARTMENT HAVE.

SO THAT WOULD BE YOUR OPPORTUNITY FOR, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SETTLED ON YOUR BOARD SPONSORED PROGRAMS, BUT THEN WE SAY HERE'S THE WHOLE BANDWIDTH OF WHAT THE Y AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS DOING.

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD GIVE FEEDBACK.

YAY, NAY.

I THINK JUST TO MARK ET CETERA, UM, APRIL WOULD BE OUR ARBOR DAY AND EARTH DAY, WHICH IS THE TREE GIVEAWAY TAKING PLACE.

UM, WE'D BE REVIEWING PARK STANDARDS FOR PRESEASON STARTUPS.

THAT'S WHERE WE LOOK AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL PARKS, UM, AND STANDARDS THAT WE WISH TO PULL FROM THEM.

IN MAY, WE'D LOOK AT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

SO THAT WOULD BE ME BRINGING IT TO YOU BEFORE I TURN IT INTO MY SUPERVISORS.

UM, SO THAT YOU CAN SAY, HEY ACTUALLY WE ARE FINISHING THIS COURT OVER HERE OR FIXING THAT IN THIS PARK IS YOUR PRIORITY.

YOU CAN HELP ME REORGANIZE AND PRIORITIZE.

IN JUNE, UM, WE WOULD WORK ON A TREE BOARD UPDATE, HOW A TREE BOARD WORK SESSION AND OUR JUNE INTERPRETER PROGRAMS WOULD TAKE PLACE.

THERE'S QUITE A FEW OF THEM THAT ACS WORKING ON.

IN JULY, THE COUNCIL UPDATE WOULD TAKE PLACE IN AUGUST WE REVIEW OUR COMMUNITY INVESTMENT POLICY,

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WHICH IS THE COST TO COVER POLICY AND DISCUSS PROGRAM AND EVENT IDEAS FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO IT'S KIND OF OUR FIRST LIKE BRAINSTORMING DISCUSSION.

AND THEN IN SEPTEMBER AFTER HAVING HEARD ALL THE IDEAS IN AUGUST, WE WOULD ACTUALLY VOTE ON WHAT THOSE PROGRAMS AND EVENTS WOULD BE.

AND THEN IN OCTOBER, SETTING THOSE DATES AND WHO THE CHAMPIONS ARE, THE YMCA TRUNK OR TREAT TAKES PLACE.

AND THEN YOU KNOW, THERE'S ANOTHER COUNCIL UPDATE AND WE REVIEW THIS TOPIC FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND THEN WE REVIEW THE MEETING.

IT'S ALSO FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

SO IF THAT ALL SOUNDS OKAY AND IT'S NOT THAT WE WON'T TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS AT THESE MEETINGS AS THEY COME UP, BUT THIS HELPS REMIND CHRIS AND I LIKE, OH WE BETTER HAVE OUR STUFF TOGETHER 'CAUSE THEY WANT TO SEE CAPITAL IN THE END OF MAY.

OKAY, NOW I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT, ON THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IN MAY, THESE ARE ACTIVITY WE WANT TO DO NEXT TIME THE YEAR, RIGHT? YES.

SO, UM, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK INCORRECTLY BUT I THOUGHT LAST YEAR I BROUGHT YOU THE WHOLE FIVE YEAR WE DID HAVE A PLAN SO AND SO YOU WOULD LOOK, WE WOULD LOOK CLOSELY AT THE NEXT YEAR BECAUSE THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT.

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BE GETTING FUNNY FOR.

OKAY.

BUT IT WOULD ALSO BE A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT THINGS IN YEAR TWO OR THREE SHOULD THOSE MOVE BUMP, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE MISSED? SHOULD WE GET IT IN IN THAT FIVE YEAR PLAN? THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE WITH THAT IS THAT WITH THE TIME IT TAKES TO GET CONTRACTORS AND CONTRACTS OUT WITH US REVIEWING THAT IN MAY AND I KNOW HOW FAST CITY COUNCIL MOVES, YOUR STOMACH'S GONNA BE OVER BEFORE YOU GET ANYBODY ON CONTRACT.

EVEN AT WORK IT WOULD BE FOR 27TH.

OKAY.

SO NOT FOR NEXT YEAR BUT FOLLOWING YEAR.

YES.

SORRY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

YEP.

WE LOOKED AT 26TH IN IN MAY OF 25.

OKAY.

YEP.

OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE GRANT OF THINGS.

OH WAIT, DO YOU WANT MEETING DATES? UM, SORRY.

CHRIS MADE YOU A HANDOUT TOO.

WHAT'S IT HAVE FOR MARCH ON THAT ONE THOUGH? OKAY, WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO MOVE IT TO WEDNESDAY THE 18TH.

IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS TO THAT THEN WE'LL WE'LL PROCEED WITH THAT.

IS FEBRUARY CORRECT AS WELL? UM, FOR WEDNESDAY? BECAUSE CHRIS'S SAYS FEBRUARY 18TH, YOURS SAYS FEBRUARY 19TH.

SAME ISSUE FOR JANUARY.

OH MY GOSH, , WE SHOULD BE ON THE THIRD THURSDAY.

WAS I MAYBE LOOKING AT 2025 WHEN I MADE MY MESSAGE.

SO THE THIRD THURSDAY IN JANUARY, JANUARY 15TH, FEBRUARY 19TH, MARCH 18TH ON MARCH 18TH WE'RE BEING ASKED TO MOVE.

OKAY.

YEAH, EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN SYN, IT'S JUST THOSE FIRST THREE MONTHS.

SO I THINK THIS SHEET IS NOT RIGHT.

SO I THREW AWAY AND THE BOTTOM ONE, SO THIRD FIRST DAY, THE ONLY ONE WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO CHANGE IS MARCH AND WE HAVE NOTHING ON A HOLIDAY THIS YEAR.

I INTO A COUPLE OF THOSE.

SHOULD I BE TO DO THAT DISAGREEMENTS? YEAH, I DO.

I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THOSE DATES.

I'LL MOTION TO ADOPT THOSE DATES.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND NOW WE'LL MOVE UP TO THE GRANT UPDATES.

YES.

SO WE HAVE SOME UH, REALLY EXCITING NEWS.

WE RECEIVED THE NATUREWORKS GRANT THAT WE APPLIED FOR AND THIS IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO ASSIST US IN ACQUIRING THE NINE ACRES ADJACENT TO CLOUD PARK.

UM, SO THAT IS WONDERFUL NEWS.

IT'S A TREMENDOUS HELP AND IT WILL UM, CREATE THAT AREA THAT'S CURRENTLY CORNFIELD.

THE PLAN IS TO RESTORE IT INTO UM, NATIVE GRASSES INTERPRETIVE AREA, WALKING PATH, INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE, THAT'S WHAT THE PASSIVE AREA.

SO THAT'LL BE HAPPENING IN THE COMING YEARS.

WE ALSO RECEIVED UM, A $100,000 GRANT FOR OUR URBAN TREE CANOPY.

AND THIS IS THE GRANT THAT WE WANTED TO GET TO KICKSTART THE REMOVAL OF THE BRADFORD PEAR TREES.

UM, SO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WILL ASSIST US IN REMOVING THE TREES ON PUBLIC LANDS.

UM,

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CITY OWNED PROPERTY IS SOUTH OF TAYLORSVILLE.

UM, SO IT'S PRETTY BIG CHUNK.

IT'S WONDERFUL TO HAVE RECEIVED IT.

AND UM, I JUST HAD A MEETING ON WEEK.

WE GET A FORESTER TO WORK WITH ONE-ON-ONE TO ENSURE WE'RE DOING BEST PRACTICES, THAT WE'RE BEING SAFE, THAT WE'RE CHOOSING THE BEST TREES POSSIBLE FOR REPLANTING.

IT'S REALLY A WONDERFUL PROGRAM OTHER THAN JUST THE MONEY TO GET THAT EXPERTISE AND TOO.

AND THEN, UM, THERE IS A MINI GRANT THAT I INTEND TO GO FOR.

UM, IT IS DUE AT THE END OF THE MONTH AND IT'S ABOUT $5,000 THAT I'LL BE ASKING FOR TO INCREASE OUR INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE AT OUR EXISTING POLLINATORS BEDS.

AND UM, RICH HAD A WONDERFUL IDEA OF DOING SEED COLLECTION OUT THERE AS BOTH AN ORGANIZED PROGRAM AND A PASSIVE PROGRAM.

SO THIS WOULD HELP US GET THAT PROGRAM STARTED.

UM, YOU KNOW, THINK OF LITTLE BOXES THAT WITCHERS HAVE THAT WOULD STICK THEIR PAMPHLETS IN.

UM, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT SEED COLLECTION BAGS IN THERE WITH SOME INSTRUCTIONS AND PEOPLE COULD COME COLLECT NATIVE SEEDS ANYTIME THEY DESIRE.

UM, WE ALSO WOULD BE CLEANING UP INVASIVES WITH THE MONEY OUTTA THOSE PATCHES.

SO IF THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING, UM, WORTH DOING, THEN I'LL, I'LL GO FOR IT.

UM, THE REASON I WANTED TO BRING IT UP HERE IS THAT UM, RICH HAD SUGGESTED THOSE C COLLEGE PROGRAMS KIND OF AS AN ADDITIONAL PROGRAM OF THE BOARD.

SO I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO BE ON, I THINK HE'S WILLING TO CHAMPION BUT I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR YOU.

YES.

YEAH.

UM, SO THAT WOULD COME ONE OF YOUR BOARD SPONSORED PROGRAMS AND YOU SHOULD PROBABLY VOTE TO MOTION YES AND SECOND RACHEL, THAT WILL PASS AS WELL.

GREAT.

AND THEN THE TREE BOARD UPDATE.

OH RIGHT.

SO THE KIND UM, HARDENING BACK TO THE TREE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD, UM, THIS, IF YOU REMEMBER IN THE SPRING YOU ALL AGREED TO BE OUR TREE BOARD, AT LEAST IN THE TEMPORARY UM, TIME TO HELP US GET STARTED ON A TREE PLAN.

SO, UM, AS I SAID, WE HAVE A TWO YEAR PROCESS FOR A DROPPED IN A TREE MASTER PLAN.

SO WE WILL PERIODICALLY BRING THINGS, UM, TO THE BOARD TO CONSIDER AND HELP PUT INTO OUR MASTER PLAN AND THEN, UM, YOU SHOULD EXPECT THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT TWO YEARS HEAVILY.

AND WE CAN ALWAYS REEVALUATE IF IT FEELS LIKE A GOOD FIT OR IF WE SHOULD FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE OR HOW WE SHOULD STRUCTURE.

AND THEN, UM, I ALSO WANNA TALK A LITTLE ABOUT CLOUD PARK.

SO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE SOME TREES IN FRONT OF YOU.

SO THESE TREES HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED BY OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT FOR THE CLOUD PARK PRODUCT.

I DO NOT THINK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS NATIVE.

AND I KNOW PREDATING ME THE BOARD HAD MADE AN OFFICIAL RECOMMENDATION.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WENT TO COUNCIL AS POLICY, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THAT.

BUT THAT WE SHOULD BE USING NATIVE ISSUES ONLY IN OUR PARKS.

UM, I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER STANDARDS AS WELL, SO YOU CAN USE NAMES, YOU CAN ALSO USE WHAT THEY, SOME PEOPLE REFER TO AS ADAPTED SPECIES.

SO YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PRETTY POSITIVE THAT THEY AREN'T INVASIVE.

UM, THEY MIGHT NOT BE NATIVE TO OHIO, BUT THEY COULD BE NATIVE TO PENNSYLVANIA.

AND SO I WANTED TO BRING THESE BEFORE YOU.

I UNDERSTAND YOU MIGHT NEED TO RESEARCH IT AND DIGEST.

UM, BUT IF WE WANT TO GO LOOK FULL NATIVE ONLY IN OUR PARKS, WE CAN ADOPT THAT.

IF WE WANT TO SAY WELL MAYBE THERE'S WIGGLE ROOM AT SOME OF OUR LARGER PROJECTS, THEN THEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT TOO.

SO THIS IS KIND OF YOUR FIRST INTRODUCTION TO THREE CONSIDERATIONS.

I'M HAPPY TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS CAN DISCUSS AS MUCH AS YOU WANT NOW AND I CAN ALSO PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA TOO.

SO YOU TIME DIGEST.

SO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

I I AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WE SHOULD GO ALL NEGATIVE.

I MEAN THERE'S BE TIMES WHEN IT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE, SO THERE SHOULD BE SOME FLEXIBILITY PROBABLY.

BUT I THINK IF THE IDEA IS TO UM, TO UNIFY THE CITY, THEN THAT INCLUDES THE WHOLE OF ECOLOGICAL SYSTEM, NOT JUST THE TREES.

SO I THINK IT AS MUCH NEGATIVE AS WE CAN GET, UM, PREDOMINANTLY NATIVE OR SOME SORT OF LANGUAGE LIKE THAT SUFFICIENT SOME FLEXIBILITY TO DO A NON-NATIVE ONE.

YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT.

UM, I THINK THAT LEANING TOWARDS NATIVE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT, BUT I CAN SEE WHERE NATURALIZED OR UM, NON-INVASIVE, MAYBE IN OTHER PLACES OR IN CERTAIN PLACES, BUT DEFINITELY

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LEANING MORE TOWARDS NATIVE.

SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT TREES.

SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE, UM, YOU BOTH ARE LEANING TOWARDS BEING OF TREES, UM, BUT WHAT WOULD BE WRONG WITH ADAPTIVE TREES IF THEY'RE NOT INVASIVE, UM, TO CONSIDER THEM AND WHAT WOULD THERE BE ANYTHING, ANY REASON TO AGAINST THEM? UH, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THEM.

THERE'S JUST NOT ANY BENEFIT FROM 'EM OTHER THAN JUST THEY LOOK NICE.

MM-HMM .

IT'S LIKE A MATIC THING.

WHEREAS IF IT'S A NEGATIVE TREE THEN IT'S SUPPORTING THE ECOSYSTEM.

POLLINATORS, BURBS, ALL THAT.

SO THERE'S NOTHING WRONG, IT'S JUST THAT THEY ADD NO VALUE OTHER THAN JUST HUMANS THINK THAT'S A PRETTY OH, SO THE ADAPTIVE, THE ADAPTIVE ARE STRICTLY JUST NOT, I MEAN A VERY GOOD BUILDING.

RIGHT? BUT, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA HELP LIKE THE POLLINATORS AND THAT NECESSARILY THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT AS GUARANTEED TO BE AS HARDY MM-HMM .

UM, THERE'S A CHANCE THAT YOU INSTALL THEM AND THEN FIND OUT LATER, OH GOSH, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T AS HARDY, IT DIDN'T HOLD UP AS WELL HERE.

MM-HMM UM, AND SO, AND THEIR ROOT SYSTEMS MAY NOT GO UP AS WELL, WHICH DOESN'T HELP WITH, YOU KNOW, RAINWATER SUPPRESSION, ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE PICK UP WITH TREES.

SO, UM, TYPICALLY E EVEN VERY ECOLOGICALLY MINDED LANDSCAPERS WILL STILL USE THE NATURAL HISTORY ADAPTED TREES, UM, BECAUSE THEY ARE CONSIDERED LOW RISK AND TRIED AND TRULY YEAH.

THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS SOMETHING LIKE A RAT, LIKE A RAT REPAIR OR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT BEEN PROVEN TO NOT BEING INVASIVE COME IN AND THEN JUST BE BEING PROLIFIC AND SPREAD EVERYWHERE.

YEAH.

SO COULD WE AGREE THAT WE SHOULD ALWAYS LOOK AT NATIVE FIRST AND IF THERE'S ISSUES WITH THE NATIVE THEN WE START ASSESSING ADAPTIVE? THAT WOULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE ON, ON THIS LIST RIGHT HERE THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, DO WE KNOW WHICH ONES ARE NATIVE AND WHICH ONES ARE NOT? NO, I THAT NO OFFHAND NO, THAT HELP OUT A LOT TOO.

I MEAN NORWAY SPRUCE IS NOT NATIVE QUESTION.

JUST LIKE JUSTICE.

I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT TREES AT ALL.

THE ONES LISTED HERE THAT ARE NATIVE, DO THEY HAVE DIFFERENT BENEFITS LIKE THREE? IT HAS, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

LIKE TWO, THREE, I MEAN THAT'S A NATIVE THAT HAS A PRETTY FLOWER THAT, YOU KNOW, NATIVE INSECTS LINE AND THAT ENCOURAGES THEM TO HAVE MORE NATIVE INSECTS WHICH ENCOURAGES THE BIRDS TO, YOU KNOW, PROLIFERATE BECAUSE NOT THEY EAT THOSE INSECTS AND SO THANK YOU.

SO PERHAPS MAYBE LIKE A PERCENTAGE LIKE NO WE SHOULD ONLY USE NO MORE THAN WHAT, 10, 15, 20? I DUNNO.

JUST I'M THROWING OUT NUMBERS, PERCENTAGE OF NATURALIZED TREES AND THE OTHER PERCENTAGE OF TREES SHOULD BE BECAUSE I SAY UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW SOME MAY NOT BE NEEDED BUT YES SOME IT'S, IF WE CAN FIND IT ENOUGH THAT'S WHEN LANDSCAPING, IT'LL KIND OF GIVE THAT HELP GIVE US A WOW FACTOR HERE.

WOW FACTOR.

AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING A LITTLE FIZZ WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE OUR PART.

SO I THINK MAYBE A RATIO MIGHT HELP SO THAT WAY WE'RE, YOU KNOW, GETTING THAT LITTLE BIT OF DECORATING BUT WE ARE TRULY MAKING SURE THAT MOST OF TREES ARE PROVIDING THAT POSITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL.

YEAH, I I'D BE HAPPY TO UM, A PHRASE A FEW SCENARIOS, UH, PERHAPS THAT WOULD BE BETTER.

UM, 'CAUSE I THINK WE COULD ALSO STRATIFY IT BY OUR TYPE OF PARK NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AND, AND REGIONAL AND MAYBE YOU WANT THE WOW FACTOR AT A REGIONAL, BUT IT, IT'S NOT, I NEEDED A COMMUNITY WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE UP FOR LACK OF TREES AND YARDS AND UM, SO I, WE HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER LIKE A LITTLE MORE OF A, A LIST OF MAYBE MORE CONCISE QUESTIONS OR OPTIONS AND THEN YOU GUYS CONSIDER THOSE.

YEAH BECAUSE THAT WOULD HELP ME LEARN VISUAL.

SO HAVING KIND OF MORE RATIO OF THAT ASPECT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, YOU KNOW, I JUST KNOW THAT THAT THAT PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD WAS IN ONE OF THE FILES THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME WHEN I CAME TO THE PARTS MANAGER.

AND SO I'M LIKE, HEY, MAYBE YOU GUYS ALREADY DID THE DEEP DIVE AND UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE ON THE BOARD THEN HERE.

SO I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION WILL BE, I THINK WE'LL GO TOWARDS YOU 'CAUSE YOU SEEM TO KNOW, KNOW MOST ABOUT TREE HERE.

WHEN IS THERE SITUATIONS WHERE A NATIVE TREE WOULD NOT BE A GOOD FIT? WE ENCOUNTERED THAT BEFORE.

SO THIS, I MEAN

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IT WOULD ALWAYS FIT MM-HMM THERE JUST COULD BE TIMES WHEN ANOTHER NON-NATIVE NATIVE LOOK PRETTIER IN THAT SITUATION.

SO THE NATIVE AESTHETICS, IT'S JUST AESTHETIC.

YEAH.

BUT ECOLOGICALLY THE NATIVE IS ALWAYS EASIER, JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON.

YOU SAY YOU WANT THE WILD FACTOR, LIKE I WANT TO GET LIKE THIS FOREST PANZI RED BUD.

THAT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN CULTIVATED AND BUILT TO LOOK LIKE THIS.

SO AN ENGINEERED TREE.

UM, SO IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA SUPPORT POLLINATORS AS MUCH AS A NORMAL RED BUD THAT IS NATIVE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL GET SOME FURTHER RESEARCH ON WHICH OF THESE TREES ARE NATIVE AND COME BACK TO IT UP AHEAD.

THANK YOU SIR.

AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO YOUR UPCOMING.

YES.

SO, UM, IT'S GETTING MORE AND MORE OBVIOUS THAT I WILL BE MAKING, UM, FAMILY LEAVE HERE IN THE COMING MONTHS.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE OUT THIS KIND OF QUICK REFERENCE TO YOU ALL FOR THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES IN MIND SINCE NONE OF THIS IS IS NEW.

UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT DOWN CONCISELY IN CASE THERE WERE QUESTIONS ON THE BOARD SPONSORED PROGRAMS. THE DREAM PLANT GIVEAWAY, WHICH WILL BE WORKING WITH MOLLY TO COORDINATE PICKLEBALL.

ALEX WILL BE WORKING WITH CHRIS REDMAN PARK CLEANUPS.

CASEY IS WORKING WITH MOLLY TO GET OUT ON SKATE DAY.

CASEY WILL BE WORKING WITH MOLLY LITTLE MERMAN CONCERT JUSTICE IS WORKING WITH MOLLY SOARIAN B PROGRAM.

ANDY AND MOLLY, UM, INTERPRETIVE CREEK PROGRAMS. CASEY AND MOLLY, THE HERITAGE TREE RICH, I'LL KEEP THAT 'CAUSE I'LL BE BACK IN TIME FOR I'LL AND I'LL OPEN IT UP.

UM, SO THAT'S RICH AND ME.

AND THEN POLLINATOR, UM, PATHWAYS, THAT'S THAT EPA GRANT THAT I WANT TO GO FOR.

UM, WE NEED A CHAMPION OF THAT.

I CAN DO THAT.

OKAY, COOL.

AND THEN THE BRADFORD TREES, NOW THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE SECURED THE FUND, I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE FOR OUR IMPLEMENTATION.

I'M GONNA HAVE TO REALLY COORDINATE WITH PUBLIC WORKS, UM, WITH CITY MANAGEMENT AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT WHEN WE START TO GET INTO WHAT TYPES OF ACTIVITIES DOES BOARD WANT YOU TO SUPPORT IT? YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANT TO GET OUT WITH A SHOVEL AND THERE ARE SOME TREES, DO YOU WANT TO, UM, DO A SECOND TREE GIVEAWAY IN THE FALL? THE, YOU KNOW, SKY'S THE LIMIT.

UM, BUT WE, WE NEED SOMEBODY TO KIND OF BE THE GO-TO CHAMPION ON THAT ONE TOO.

OKAY, COOL.

AND SO IF YOU QUESTION ON THOSE PROGRAMS, YOU COULD ASK YOUR FELLOW BOARD MEMBER THAT'S ASSIGNED OR YOU COULD REACH OUT TO MOLLY OR CHRIS.

UM, AND THEN, UM, CHRIS WILL BE HERE AS YOUR STAFF LIAISON, UM, THE WHOLE TIME.

MOLLY WILL BE COMING AT LEAST IN MARCH, IF NOT MORE OFTEN.

IF, IF SHE'S NEEDED.

AND IF YOU ARE OUT AND ABOUT AND YOU ARE ON OUR, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ON OUR PARKS COURT, YOU'RE ALWAYS BEING PARKS MINDED.

IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS MEDIA ATTENTION IN A PARK, UM, YOU CAN, CHRIS CAN ALWAYS RIDE YOU TO THE CORRECT PERSON TO GO TO.

BUT ALSO I LISTED OUR PUBLIC WORKS PHONE NUMBER HERE TOO, SO YOU CAN SAY TREE FELL IN THIS PARK, LET SOMEBODY KNOW.

UM, THOSE ARE OUR, UM, THEY ARE WORKHORSES OF THE DEPARTMENT AND GET THAT STUFF DONE ON, KEEP OUR PARKS GORGEOUS.

AND THEN FOR BOARD OF COMMISSION INQUIRIES, IF YOU'RE LIKE, HEY, ARE WE DOING THIS CORRECTLY? SHOULD WE BE VOTING ON THIS TYPE OF THING? ARE WE FOLLOWING PROCEDURES CORRECTLY? UH, I BELIEVE YOU ALL KNOW TONY ROGERS BECAUSE HE CONDUCTED YOUR INTERVIEWS FOR YOU TO BE HERE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DIRECT YOU TO.

ANY QUESTIONS? UM, I INTEND TO WORK AS LONG AS I CAN AND THEREFORE ANTICIPATE COMING BACK IN LATE MARCH, FIRST WEEK OF APRIL.

UM, BUT NEVER KNOW WHAT, WHAT DESTINY THE LORD HAS IN MIND.

SO YEAH, WHAT THE DATE JANUARY 9TH IS WHEN I, ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL BUSINESS OR ANNOUNCEMENTS? DID EVERYONE GET TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE MEETINGS FROM OR MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING? I WANNA POINT OUT THAT I WAS NOT IN ATTENDANCE LAST MEETING.

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I CAN STRIKE THAT OUT AND, AND YOU GUYS CAN MOTION THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, WITH AMENDMENTS APPROVED, ANYONE MOTION TO APPROVE WITH AMENDMENTS? MOTION TO APPROVE WITH AMENDMENTS.

ONE SECOND.

SECOND HAS, AND THEN OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE JANUARY 15TH AND NO HAS ANYTHING ELSE THEN.

YES, I DID WANT TO GIVE MOLLY A SHOUT OUT.

UM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK SHE COULD LEAVE ON THE CASE AND THE CRAFTER AND I WAS ATTENDING FOR BOTH OF THOSE AND THEY WERE BOTH EVENTS.

I THINK THE CRAFTER WAS FROM LIKE 9:00 AM TO 4:00 PM AND I WAS A, A VENDOR THERE AND I WENT AND I LIKE, UH, IT'S GONNA BE RED BULL, I'M GONNA BE THERE FOR SEVEN HOURS.

AND IT WAS ACTUALLY AN ALSO EVENT THERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP ON FOOT TRAFFIC.

SO, UM, YEAH, IT WAS FOR, FOR HEADING EVENTS AND WE.