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[ AGENDA ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road November 3, 2025 6:30 P.M. ]
IS NOVEMBER 3RD AT 6:30 PM I AM SARAH CHAPMAN CALLING THE MEETING TO ORDER.WE WILL COMMENCE WITH THE ROLL CALL.
YOU'LL, UH, WE WILL HAVE A NEW MEMBER I WILL INTRODUCE IN A MOMENT, BUT WE WILL START AT THIS FAR END.
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE SAY YOUR NAME.
UH, A FEW OPENING REMARKS AS, UH, YOU SAW.
WE HAVE WENDY, SHE IS OUR NEW COMMISSION MEMBER AND WE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE HER WITH US IN JUST A MOMENT.
I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A MOMENT TO DO A QUICK INTRODUCTION, BUT I ALSO WANNA WELCOME WE HAVE MOLLY WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND SHE'S JOINING US TODAY AND WE HAVE ASSISTANT MEMBER FROM MSA DESIGN WHO WILL BE PRESENTING.
SO THANK YOU BOTH FOR ATTENDING.
HOLLY, WOULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? YEAH, SO, UM, I'M HAPPY TO.
I AM THE BRANCH MANAGER AT THE HUBER HEIGHTS LIBRARY.
SO, UM, I'VE BEEN THERE FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR NOW, SO I'VE JUST BEEN TRYING TO KIND OF, UM, GET OUT MORE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND I'VE LIVED HUBER HEIGHTS FOR, SINCE 2020, SO GOING ON FIVE YEARS, SIX YEARS NOW, I GUESS.
SO, UM, YEAH, SO JUST REALLY EXCITED TO GET MORE ACTIVE AND GET, UH, MORE PARTNERSHIPS AND JUST, UM, WORK MORE CLOSELY.
WELL, WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, OFFER YOU THE OATH OF OFFICE.
I THINK WE HAVE TO DO THAT ON CA AS PART OF THE MINUTES, RIGHT? MM-HMM
I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST NAMES.
DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM DO YOU SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES TO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES? THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF OHIO, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF OHIO, THE CHARTER AND ALL ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, THE CHARTER AND ALL ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
AND THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY AND THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY HONESTLY AND IMPARTIALLY HONESTLY AND IMPARTIALLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE.
DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITIES.
LET'S MAKE SURE WE GET THAT SIGNED FOR THE END OF THE EVENING.
UH, THIS IS THE POINT IN THE AGENDA.
WE'RE ALREADY ON NUMBER FOUR, MOTORING THROUGH, UH, WHERE WE INVITE CITIZEN COMMENTS? NOT YET.
WERE THERE ANY SUBMITTED ONLINE? NO.
WE WILL GO TO OLD BUSINESS AND NOW WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE MSA DESIGN TO, UH, OPEN UP OUR MURAL DISCUSSION.
SARAH, DO YOU WANT TO SEND ANY CONTEXT? SURE.
SO, UM, UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS UNABLE TO GET OUR HIGH SCHOOL VOLUNTEER HERE, BUT I THINK THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE THIS, UM, PORTION I HAD ASKED MSA TO COME HERE TO TALK MAINLY LIKE WHAT ARE OUR NEXT STEPS AND WHAT IS OUR TIMELINE LOOK LIKE? SO I KNOW WE'VE GIVEN YOU A COUPLE OF LOCATIONS YOU WERE GONNA SCOUT THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE.
I KNOW THAT OUR BOARD WAS THINKING ABOUT SOME INDIVIDUAL LOCATIONS.
UM, SINCE THEN I HAVE ALSO O THOUGHT THAT WE COULD MAKE, UM, BASICALLY A CANVAS FOR OUR ART, UM, OUT OF LIKE PLYWOOD AND THEN FIND SOMETHING TO AFFIX IT TO IF WE HAVE A BUILDING THAT'S FACE MAYBE ISN'T PERFECT FOR THE APPLICATION.
UM, AND SO THAT MIGHT BE A SOLUTION TO ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS THAT'S LIKE A BUMPY OKAY.
UM, BUT UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING THEY WANNA ADD OR GET OUT THERE, THEN I'LL JUST, UM, OH, ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE.
WELL, SINCE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT LOCATION, IF YOU ALL WANTED TO TURN TO PAGE SEVEN, UM, WHEN WE WERE UP HERE LAST TIME, WE ACTUALLY WENT OVER TO THE HUBER HEIGHTS ATHLETIC FOUNDATION OVER ON FISHBURG ROAD.
UM, THESE ARE PROPOSING DIFFERENT LEVELS OF COVERAGE THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE WITH THE TRADITIONAL MURAL.
SO IDEALLY THIS WOULD BE PAINTED.
WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY ASPECT THAT WE COULD DISCUSS TODAY.
UM, SO I WANTED TO KIND OF GET YOUR THOUGHTS AND SEE WHAT YOU ALL WERE THINKING.
IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT YOU WERE ALREADY THINKING POSSIBLY A CANVAS PLYWOOD, BUT WE THINK THAT THIS BUILDING WOULD BE OPTIONAL TO DO A TRADITIONAL MURAL.
I THINK IT, SINCE THEN, WE HAVE LEARNED THAT THE ATHLETIC FOUNDATION IS LIKELY NOT INTERESTED AT ALL.
SO, UM, WE, BUT THIS IS VERY HELPFUL 'CAUSE ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS WE HAD ON THE BOARD WAS HOW BIG IS THIS THING? YES.
AND SO EVEN BEING ABLE TO SEE IN RELATION TO SOMETHING WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH.
WE KIND OF SEE DIFFERENT SIZES WE COULD GO WITH PERFECT.
THAT'S WHAT WE WERE WANTING TO SHOW HERE.
THIS IS REALLY OPTIONAL FOREVER, WHAT LOCATION WE END UP DECIDING.
BUT TYPICALLY WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WE, WE OFFER THOSE THREE LEVELS, LIKE I SAID, FULL, MEDIUM OR MINIMUM
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COVERAGE.SO WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, BUT JUST WOULDN'T GIVE YOU ALL AN IDEA OF WHAT WE WERE THINKING.
SO THEN IF WE WANT TO TURN BACK, WE CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE TIMELINE.
WE HAVE A PROPOSAL ON PAGE FIVE, AND WE'LL KIND OF WORK BACKWARDS LOOKING AT THE 15TH WEEK, WHICH WOULD BE THE PAINTING.
AND DUE TO TEMPERATURE REGULATION AND NEED TO HAVE A DRY SPELL, OF COURSE, WITHOUT RAIN, WE'RE THINKING SPRING OR SUMMER OF 2026.
UM, SO THIS IS SHOWING A STRAIGHT 15 WEEKS, BUT THERE'S OF COURSE FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THIS.
WE WANT TO CONSIDER HOLIDAYS, YOU KNOW, THE TIME THAT IT TAKES TO POSSIBLY DO COMMUNITY POLLING.
SO WE WANTED TO KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU ALL WERE THINKING.
BUT THE PROPOSAL FOR PAINTING AT LEAST WOULD BE SPRING OR SUMMER, IF IT IS GONNA BE AN EXTERNAL PIECE WITH EXPOSURE TO WEATHER.
I THINK WHEN WE FIRST STARTED MM-HMM
UM, CHERYL, BY THE WAY, UM, I, I THINK WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE WERE HOPING TO GET IT STARTED IN 25 WHEN WE YES.
MOVE AND TRY TO USE SOME OF THE BETTER FALL MONTHS.
BUT OF COURSE WITH THE LOCATION NOT BEING PICKED YET, WE CAN'T REALLY DO THAT.
UM, I MEAN, I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF TIME EARLY, MAYBE IN APRIL AND MAY.
AND THE GOOD NEWS IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A COUPLE PROPOSALS OF, WE COULD START AS EARLY AS DECEMBER, AS LONG AS WE GET THAT ART, UM, TO START LOOKING AT FOR CONCEPTUAL PIECES AND THEN START SCALING.
UM, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO KIND OF SEE WHAT YOU ALL WERE THINKING.
AND I KNOW SARAH, YOU MENTIONED THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.
SO THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE TO GET THAT, THAT ART TO US, THE CONCEPTUAL ART SO THAT WE COULD START LOOKING AT THAT.
UM, I ALSO KNOW HERE IN, IN WEEKS EIGHT AND NINE MM-HMM
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE COMMUNITY VOTING SO MUCH AS THE, YOU KNOW, THE SOURCE OF THE ATHLETES THAT MIGHT BE CHOSEN.
UM, MAY COME MORE FROM, FROM THE SCHOOLS OR FROM THE INDIVIDUALS THAT CHOOSE LIKE THEIR HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES, UM, THAT IS STILL A LITTLE BIT YET TO BE DECIDED.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK THE BOARD NEEDS TO THINK ABOUT AND DISCUSS.
AND THIS, AGAIN, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WAS A QUESTION I HAD ON MY NOTES TODAY, SO IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT, THAT ASPECT OF THE POLLING.
SO I CAN DEFINITELY MODIFY THE TIMELINE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN DOING.
NO, I WAS JUST GONNA, UH, SAY LIKE THE VOLUNTEER CALL TO ACTION, IS THAT GONNA BE LIKE PREPPING THE, THE THE FACE OF THE BUILDING OR WHATEVER YEAH.
TO WHERE THE ARTWORK IS GONNA BE APPLIED OR, YEAH.
SO THERE CAN BE A COUPLE DIFFERENT ROUTES IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO WANT TO INCLUDE IN THIS.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A MURAL IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN CINCINNATI WHERE THEY JUST HAD A GRID SYSTEM.
SO DIFFERENT SQUARES WERE NUMBERED, THEN THEY HAD A GROUP OF PEOPLE COME OUT, THEY HAVE A KEY, AND THEN THEY CAN JUST PAINT THOSE NUMBERS BASED OFF OF PREDETERMINED DESIGN AND COLOR.
SO IT'S A REALLY FUN WAY TO INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY.
WE BY NO MEANS HAVE TO DO THAT, IT WAS JUST IN THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL.
SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP TODAY TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WERE STILL HOPING TO DO.
I THINK WE DO STILL WANT THE COMMUNITY TO OKAY, VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME TO PAINT.
SO WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT IN THE, THE DESIGN, RIGHT? MM-HMM
WELL, YEAH, OUR INITIAL, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THINKING OF THIS CONCEPT, IT WAS GONNA BE LIKE A MOSAIC TYPE.
SO THAT WOULD BE MORE IN LINE WITH, WITH THAT WHICH, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD JUST PAINT BY NUMBER.
I SAID BY NEIGHBORHOOD, THE MURAL, IT IS MORE OF A MOSAIC STYLE.
THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT TREES AND THEY ALL HAVE A PREDETERMINED COLOR BASED OFF OF THE ART THAT WAS PROVIDED.
BUT THEN THE COMMUNITY CAN EASILY JUMP IN AND FOLLOW THAT.
SO IT'S, IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING WAY TO, TO EXECUTE THAT.
SO WHETHER IT BE ON A BUILDING OR A CANVAS, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, WE COULD EASILY, EASILY DO.
HOW DOES THAT, SORRY, HOW DID GO, HOW DOES THAT LOOK WITH THE, THE PAINT BY NUMBERS? IS IT, DOES IT END UP LOOKING PIXELY WITH THE, THE SPOTS OR LIKE HOW BIG IS EACH MM-HMM
THE ONE THAT I'M THINKING OF IS AN INCH BY INCH SQUARE.
BUT WE CAN GO AS SMALL AS WE WANT OR AS BIG.
I THINK IT JUST DETERMINED BASED OFF OF WHAT ART WE'RE BEING PROVIDED AND WITHIN THIS TIMING, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE COULD BE GIVING CONCEPTS.
SO WE COULD EASILY RENDER WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AT THE END TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL HAPPY WITH WHAT THE FINAL PIECE WILL LOOK LIKE.
I IMAGINE FROM FAR AWAY, INCH BY INCH DOESN'T LOOK PIXELATED AT ALL.
MASON ASKED THE ONE QUESTION THAT I HAD, BUT I HAVE A COUPLE EXTRA QUESTIONS THAT MAYBE I, GO AHEAD.
WANNA MAKE A QUESTION MORE FOR THE BOARD.
HOW LOCKED ARE INTO THIS ATHLETE DESIGN? ARE WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE
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THE SEMI QUINCENTENNIAL THIS YEAR AND PERHAPS WE MIGHT GET MORE INVOLVEMENT.UH, IF WE WERE ENGAGING, IF WE WERE TO GO WITH SOME KIND OF A DESIGN THAT REPRESENTED HUBER HEIGHTS IN THE SEMI CENT TENURE.
SO WE VOTED ON, UH, THIS PARTICULAR DESIGN AS IF WE CAN GET THE STUDENT TO ENGAGE, WE WOULD GO FORWARD WITH IT.
UM, AT OUR IDEATION SESSION, WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT A DIFFERENT MURAL THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, AMERICAN TWO 50 AND WE ELECTED NOT TO GO FORWARD WITH IT.
SO UNLESS THIS ARTIST GOES TO US, WE HAVE A, A FORMAT, A CONCEPT THAT WE'D BE MOVING FORWARD WITH.
SO WE CAN, UM, I CAN COMMUNICATE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE WOULD NEED HER, IF SHE GOES TO US, CONFIRM THEN WE THAT THAT HER PROPOSAL.
COULD I, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO DO A HUBER HEIGHTS HISTORICAL PIECE THAT INCLUDES AN ATH LIKE A SECTION ON ATHLETICS? IF WE WERE TO MAKE IT, LIKE, IF WE HAVE AN ENTIRE SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND IT'S NOT THE ATHLETIC FOUNDATION, COULD WE EXPAND THE PROJECT TO BE MORE, AND A SECTION OF IT IS DONE BY THAT ARTIST? IS OUR, IS OUR ONLY COMMITMENT TO THAT ARTIST? COULD WE VOTE TO BUILD ON THAT DESIGN? SO I THINK THAT A NUMBER ONE, UH, QUESTION TO BE ANSWERED IS WE GOTTA A PLACE AND GET APPROVAL.
AND WE NEED THE ARTIST TO AT LEAST CONNECT WITH US.
UM, IF SHE DOES, PROBABLY WE CAN AMPLIFY THE DESIGN, BUT WE ABSOLUTELY 100% NEED A LOCATION AND WE NEED TO CONFIRM WHETHER THIS ARTIST IS IN OR NOT.
'CAUSE WE, WE APPROVED HER CONCEPT ALREADY.
AND SO IF WE'RE GO ABOUT CHANGING IT, WE, WE CAN'T EVEN, WE CAN'T EVEN ENTERTAIN IT UNTIL THEY'RE WITH US.
UM, SO, SO THE NEXT THINGS YOU WOULD NEED FROM US MM-HMM
COULD YOU REITERATE THAT FOR US? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
LOCATION, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT'S THE BIGGEST PART.
JUST SO THAT IF YOU CAN SEE ON THE TIMELINE FOR WEEK BEFORE, WE WANT TO START LOOKING AT THE CONDITIONS AND MEASUREMENTS.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE A REALLY BIG BASIS OF JUST SO WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE, WE'RE WORKING WITH.
UM, AND THEN THE DELIVERABLE WOULD BE THE ART FROM THE ARTIST.
UM, I HAD MAPPED OUT, YOU KNOW, DECEMBER WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD START LOOKING AT THAT, JUST SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT WITHIN DECEMBER, 2025.
AND WE KNOW THAT THE PAINTING WILL EXTEND INTO NEXT YEAR, BUT THE SOONER THE BETTER.
JUST SO WE HAVE TIME TO CONCEPT AND, AND LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.
AND TO, UH, MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU SAY THE ART YES.
YOU MEAN THE CONCEPT ART, BECAUSE YOU WERE DESIGN FIRM WILL BE AMPLIFYING THAT AND MAKING IT, UH, WORK FOR THE SPACE? ABSOLUTELY.
SO, AND I CAN OFFLINE, YOU KNOW, TALK TO THE ARTIST AND GIVE THE TYPICAL GUIDELINES THAT WE GIVE TO CLIENTS THAT WE WORK WITH.
SO RESOLUTION, IMAGERY, WHAT WE WOULD NEED FROM THEM.
SO IT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY, I THINK, TO WORK WITH A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT SO THEY HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE.
UM, SO SINCE, UM, WE'RE KIND OF DECIDED ALREADY ON THIS ATHLETICISM, UM, THEME, HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT THE, WHY IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? WE, YEAH, I MENTIONED THAT BEFORE.
I KNOW WE WANT TO BE OUTSIDE MM-HMM
UM, IT WAS HOMEWORK FROM LAST MEETING.
IF YOU COME UP WITH A PLACE, GO ASK SOMEONE.
DID ANYONE COME WITH AN APPROVAL? NOT APPROVAL.
DID COME WITH AN IDEA THOUGH ALSO I WAS SHOT DOWN ON ALL OF THEM.
I MEAN, HAVE WE TALKED TO WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL? BECAUSE TO ME THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE.
IF WE'RE GONNA BE HIGHLIGHTING THEIR ATHLETES.
IF THEY'VE GOT A SPACE, IT'S CENTRALLY LOCATED, IT'S, YOU KNOW, DOES THEY WANNA HAVE A CONTACTED
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BY HIGH SCHOOL? I SURE DO.SEE IF WAYNE, UH, IS OPEN TO DISCUSSING BEING A LOCATION MURAL.
AND UH, SARAH, COULD YOU AND OR MOLLY CHECK AND SEE IF THE Y WOULD BE OPEN TO IT AND WE COULD MAKE A FINAL CHOICE NEXT MEETING I TWO PART LOCATION THAT WE YEAH.
YOU HAD MENTIONED CLOUD PARK BEFORE.
WERE WE ABLE TO SEE LIKE WHAT WALL AT CLOUD PARK YOU'RE THINKING OF IN THIS RENDERING? YOU NO, IT DOESN'T EXIST YET.
SO CLOUD WOULD BE A LITTLE WAYS DOWN THE ROAD IF WITH THIS PARTICULAR MALL, WE DO HAVE IT IN THE MASTER PLAN TO INCLUDE PUBLIC ART IN THAT PART THOUGH.
I JUST SEE IT AS A DIFFERENT, THIS PIECE.
UM, BUT IF WE GO LIKE THE CANVAS RAIL, THEN WE CAN MAKE IT WORK AT COMMUNITY.
UM, AND SCH GATE, SO, AND COMMUNITY IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL.
SO BASICALLY WE WOULD BE BUYING LIKE MARINE QUALITY PLYWOOD, FRAMING IT OUT AND THEN YOU WOULD, IT WOULD BE A GIANT, I CAN'T, YEAH.
I, I WOULD THINK SOMETHING HOW CRAP, HOW, UH, HOW LIKE, DESTROYABLE IS THAT DURABLE BY ALL, YEAH, THAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR.
ALL EVERYTHING CAN GET TAGGED.
AND THEN THAT WOULD BE A WOOD CANVAS.
SO IT'S AS DURABLE AS YOU THINK IT IS.
BUT I MEAN, THEY DID NOT MESS WITH OUR HAUNTED TRAIL.
THAT'S, THEY WERE VERY, WE, EVERYBODY SWORE UP AND DOWN THAT OUR HAUNTED TRAIL WOULD BE RIPPED TO PIECES.
AND EVEN AFTER THE FOOTBALL GAME THAT NIGHT, THEY LOOKED GOOD.
UH, AN ADDITIONAL SUGGESTION, UH, THAT I WAS THINKING OF THE OTHER DAY, I WAS DRIVING HOME FROM, UH, COLUMBUS GETTING OFF 70.
AND I NOTICED THAT THE OVERPASS ON, UH, THE OLD TROY SIDE HAS THE NICE LAMPS AND BANNERS AND IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD THROUGH THAT STRETCH WHEN WE GOT NEW SIDEWALKS AND ALL THAT.
BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE IT'S NOT QUITE AS, UM, PRETTY NOT NOT AS UNIFIED.
UH, AND I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S ANYTHING ON THAT UNDERPASS GOING ON, UH, BRAND PIKE GOING FROM THE, LIKE IF YOU WERE GOING FROM THE ROSE TOWARDS TAYLORSVILLE, UH, IF THAT'S A SPOT THAT WE COULD BE INTERESTED IN, I'M NOT SURE.
I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH IF THAT'S ACTUALLY OWNED BY US WITH THE STATE.
RATHER IMAGINE THAT PROBABLY INVOLVES THE STATE.
AND IF WE STARTED TODAY WITH THAT, WE'D PROBABLY GET APPROVAL AROUND 27
BUT THAT WOULD BE HUGE EXPOSURE.
THERE COULD BE OTHER PIECES OF CIVIL INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE TOO, THAT I ARE OURS.
UM, THAT I'M JUST NOT AWARE OF.
I WOULD JUST THINK THE LOGISTICS OF GETTING IT DONE IS THE PROBLEM THERE.
BECAUSE YOU'RE TRACK, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO ALMOST BLOCK OFF THE, THE STREET FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
AND THAT, SO HERE'S THE CHALLENGE ON ALL OF THIS.
WE DON'T MEET AGAIN UNTIL DECEMBER.
SO THAT'S GONNA PUT US BEYOND OUR WEEK FOUR TO, UH, PICK A LOCATION.
SO IF PEOPLE COULD WHO HAVE A LOCATION OPTION, COULD CHECK BY THE END OF NOVEMBER AND GET AN UP, DOWN AND EMAIL SARAH FOR FORSYTH DIRECTLY.
NOT THE WHOLE COMMITTEE, JUST SARAH.
BECAUSE YOU CANNOT DO CORRECT.
AND SARAH WILL, UH, SEND OUT AND WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO A, UH, A VIRTUAL YES.
SO WE WILL, WE'LL DO THAT VIRTUALLY SO THAT WE CAN HIT THAT FORMAT BEFORE WE, WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED TO KNOW TO HELP KEEP THIS MOVING FORWARD? I WOULD SAY THOSE ARE THE BEST PLACES TO START.
JUST THAT WE HAVE A LOCATION THAT WE CAN NAIL DOWN AND THAT THE ARTIST IS STILL WILLING TO BE INVOLVED AND THAT THEY ARE OKAY WITH THE TIMELINE OF GIVING US THE ART IN A HIGH RES WAY.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO IMMEDIATE THINGS THAT WE WOULD NEED.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OUR GUESTS? YEAH, I TRY TO KEEP IT SHORT.
I REALLY LIKE THE LAYOUT OF THE TIMELINE.
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OH WAIT, YES, I DID HAVE ONE MORE.IS THERE SOME STARS WE SHOULD PUT ON THIS TIMELINE OF LIKE, LIKE THIS IS YOU, SO THIS BOARD DOES NOT MEET VIRTUALLY AND WE ONLY MEET LIKE THIS.
UM, AND SO SHOULD WE PUT SOME STARS ON HERE OF LIKE, OKAY, WEEK FIVE YOU NEED TO COME BACK TO US WEEK NINE YOU'LL BE BACK TO US.
AND THEN THE LAST FOUR WEEKS WE'LL PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE SOME SESSION MEETINGS.
AND MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD MAKE SOME GOOD CHECK-INS.
THAT'S KIND OF MY SPECIALTY IS PROJECT MANAGEMENT, SO I'M HAPPY TO TAKE A LOOK AND THEN MAYBE SEND SOME DATES OVER AND WE CAN JUST GET ALL OF THAT.
'CAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THAT I WORK BEST TOO, IS JUST HAVING ALL OF THAT BAKED IN.
SO I'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL DIRECTLY.
AND WE ARE TYPICALLY THE THIRD MONDAY OF THE MONTH.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? I DON'T THINK SO.
UH, WE ARE GOING TO PROCEED WITH NEW BUSINESS.
UH, WE'RE DOING A QUICK CHECK-IN ON OUR ART SHOW AND THAT BRINGS US TO MOLLY.
SO I PUT DASH, MOLLY 'CAUSE SHE'S HERE.
BUT REALLY, UM, I WANTED TO INTRODUCE MOLLY IN AND UM, MAKE SURE THAT, UM, MELISSA, YOU'RE GONNA BE OUR CHAMPION, RIGHT? CORRECT.
MAKE SURE THAT YOU WERE CONNECTED WITH MOLLY THAT YOU CAN EXCHANGE WHATEVER INFORMATION YOU NEED, UM, TO KNOW THAT SHE'S WHO WE WILL BE YOUR LIAISON AND ALL THE PLANNING AND PREP.
I SHOULD BE BACK FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION.
UM, BUT SHE IS GOING TO RUN IT FROM A TO B AS OUR PROGRAM COORDINATOR.
AND THEN SHE DID PROVIDE THIS NICE PRETTY MAP OF WHAT THE LAYOUT FOR OUR CRAFT SHOW WAS THIS PAST WEEKEND.
WE HAD, UM, I, I SAW IT HANGING ON A WALL AND I TOOK A PICTURE OF IT 'CAUSE I LIKED IT SO MUCH.
I, I'M LIKE, I WENT IT WITHOUT THE PEOPLE'S THINGS.
SO THESE WERE ALL 10 FOOT BOOTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN KIND OF THINK LIKE, WE CAN ACTUALLY FIT MORE THERE.
AND THINK ABOUT LAST YEAR WE HAD TWO SIX FOOT TABLES, BUT ESPECIALLY STUDENTS WERE ONLY GETTING HALF OF THE TABLE FOR THEIR ITEMS. UM, BUT IT KIND OF TELLS YOU THE AMOUNT OF SPACE IN THERE.
AND THAT SHE EVEN HAD SOME BLANK TABLES IN THE GRAND HALL FOR DINING EXPERIENCE FOR CONCESSIONS, WHICH WE COULD OR COULD NOT ALSO OFFER AT OUR ART SHOW.
UM, THE SENIOR CENTER WAS DELIGHTED TO DO THAT AS A FUNDRAISER FOR THEIR EFFORTS.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT SO THAT EVERYBODY, IN CASE ANYBODY WAS FINICKY ABOUT USING A NEW SPACE, UM, THAT MOLLY FIGURED OUT SOME AWESOME SETUPS IN THERE.
AND YOU'RE PROPOSING THE MULTIPURPOSE ROOM? IS THAT WHERE WE WOULD HAVE THE SHOW? UM, IT WOULD BE IN THE GRAND HALL.
IF YOU GET AN INTEREST THAT YOU EXPAND LIKE THIS, THEN YEAH, WE CAN EXCUSE IT OUT.
ESPECIALLY IF WE DECIDE TO TAKE DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS OR DIFFERENT THEMES.
SO PERHAPS THERE'S A SHOWCASE OH, I SEE.
THAT'S UP FOR WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO USE THE KITCHEN TOO MUCH? FOR WHAT? FOR THE ART SHOW? IF YOU WANNA HAVE FOOD THAT WE BRING IN AND WE GONNA HAVE REFRESHMENTS.
SO, UM, EITHER IF WE WANTED TO GET LIKE DONATIONS OF LIKE COOKIES AND MAKE COFFEE AND STUFF LIKE THAT WOULD BE FINE.
OR THE, UM, THE SENIOR CENTER NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION ACTUALLY RAN A SMALL CONCESSIONS OPERATION THIS PAST WEEKEND AT OUR ART SHOW OR OUR CRAFT SHOW, AND DID, UM, QUITE WELL ON THAT.
AND RECENTLY PRICE SNACKS POP.
OH, THAT WOULD BE, I LIKE THAT IDEA.
ESPECIALLY IF THAT GROUP WOULD WANT TO REPEAT THAT
WE JUST WOULD NEED TO GET THE FOOT TRAFFIC TO MAKE IT WORTH THEIR WHILE.
WELL, I'M LOOKING AT THIS MAP AND I JUST COUNTED ABOUT 20, ABOUT 22, 23.
WE HAD, UM, 20 VENDORS WITH 30 TABLES SOLD.
SO SOME, SOME OF 'EM HAD DOUBLE BOOSTS AND I DID ATTEND AND IT WAS REALLY, REALLY LOVELY.
I'M, I'M TRYING TO RENT IT FOR A PRIVATE EVENT IN 2026.
AND SO IT WAS REALLY FASCINATING TO SEE IT LAID OUT THIS WAY.
UM, AND I DO HAVE TO SAY, IF YOU, IF YOU DIDN'T GO, YOU MISSED OUT.
IT WAS REALLY EXCITING TO SEE WHAT THIS COULD BE FOR OUR ART SHOW.
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REALLY GREAT PARKING, UM, EASY IN AND OUTS.IT'S JUST A PLACE WHERE THE COMMUNITY'S USED TO BEING.
I MEAN, I THINK IT WAS A REALLY GOOD CALL TO, TO HAVE IT HERE.
THE DOWNSIDE TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER HAS ALWAYS BEEN ACCESSIBILITY.
I MEAN, PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IT'S DOWN THERE AND IF YOU GIVE THEM A A POWELL ROAD ADDRESS, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO FIND THAT END OF POWELL ROAD MOST OF THE TIME.
SO THAT, THAT I THINK HURTS OUR ART SHOW LING WITH ANYTHING.
I ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY, UH, ONE OF THE ARTISTS WHO WAS AT OUR ART SHOW, UH, SHE'S THE QUILLING ARTIST.
SHE WAS THERE AS A VENDOR AND SHE'S DOING A QUILLING CLASS AT THE SENIOR CENTER.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS SOME MORE SENIOR ARTISTS MIGHT WANT TO PARTICIPATE, THAT WE CAN ALSO DRIVE MEMBERSHIP AND CONNECTABILITY TO THIS REALLY GREAT RESOURCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE ART SHOW? AGAIN? IT IS IN MAY, SO THERE'S NOTHING FOR US TO DO RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT, BUT, UH, SARAH WILL BE STEPPING AWAY FROM OUR COMMISSION FOR A FEW MONTHS, HOPEFULLY NOT TILL JANUARY, BUT WE NOW KNOW OUR, OUR LIAISON AND NOW START THINKING ABOUT IT.
SO MOLLY BE THE LIAISON TO BOARD AND THEN, UM, JUST, JUST ALSO HER EXPERTISE IN PROGRAM COORDINATION, UM, FAR SEEDS MIND.
AND SO YOU ARE IN GREAT HANDS FOR THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION OF PROGRAMS. I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
SO NOW THE NEXT ONE I WANT TO SET UP, WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THE POLICY AND PROCEDURE LIST.
DO YOU HAVE A, UH, BOOK THAT WAS PROVIDED FOR YOU? AND I DIDN'T GET THAT.
DID EVERYBODY GET THE THING WITH THE HIGHLIGHTS ON IT? NO.
WHILE THIS GOES AROUND, I WANNA SET SOME CONTEXT.
I JUST COULDN'T FIND, REMEMBER THAT AT THE BEGINNING WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMISSION BEYOND, HEY, WE MEET, WE DO COOL STUFF.
WE ARE A CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMISSION.
IT IS OUR JOB TO ADVISE SARAH AND THE REST OF OUR PARKS AND REC TEAM.
IT IS NOT NECESSARILY TO CREATE POLICY OR TO, TO MAKE CHOICES.
THAT SAID, WE IDENTIFIED EARLY ON THAT THERE ARE NO REAL DOCUMENTED POLICIES AND PROCEDURES HERE IN HUBER HEIGHTS AROUND ART.
THE EXAMPLE WE'RE USING IS IF A CITY COUNCIL PERSON GOT A CALL FROM ONE OF THE PEOPLE IN THEIR WARD, OH, I WANT TO DONATE THIS ART TO YOUR OFFICE AND I WANNA DONATE TO HEBREW HEIGHTS, WOULD THAT COMMITTEE MEMBER KNOW WHAT TO DO OR HOW TO ACCEPT OR DENY THAT, KNOW WHAT TO DO IF IT WAS, UM, NAKED PEOPLE OR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED CULTURALLY CONTROVERSIAL OR AS WE ARE CHANGING BUILDINGS AND WE WANT TO GET RID OF A PIECE OF ART OR DECOMMISSION IT WHEN WE KNOW WHAT TO DO RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T.
AND SO SARAH PROVIDED US IN EMAIL THIS, UM, APP ORDINANCE APPENDIX FROM UPPER ARLINGTON.
AND I WAS AT, AT ONE TIME, BOTH REALLY INSPIRED AND ALSO MAYBE MILDLY OVERWHELMED.
'CAUSE I'M LIKE, I I I I'M HEARING THAT.
AND SO WHAT I HOPED YOU ALL HAD TAKEN SOME TIME TO DO POTENTIALLY IS TO LOOK THROUGH IT.
AND WHAT I WANT US TO DO AS A COMMISSION IS TO COME UP WITH A LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT WE THINK OUR POLICY LIST SHOULD ANSWER.
BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO EAT THE ELEPHANT ALL AT ONCE.
AT THAT SAME TIME, WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO SUBMIT THAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEM TO SAY, YES, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO MAKE THAT POLICY BECAUSE MAYBE THEY LIKE IT REAL SQUISHY AND THEY DON'T WANT THE LIST.
SO LET, I WANT THIS TO BE MORE CURIOUS OF A DISCUSSION THAN NECESSARILY HERE'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
OTHERWISE WE WOULD BE HERE FOR ANOTHER FOUR HOURS.
SARAH, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? NO, I THINK THAT'S PERFECT.
WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE? AND THEN THAT WILL FRAME THE TYPES OF POLICIES WE THINK WE MIGHT NEED.
UM, AND WHEN IT GETS DOWN TO THE NITTY GRITTY OF ROLE, DOES THAT PROCESS WORK? THAT'S WHERE WE'LL CIRCLE BACK AND YOU
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GUYS GIVE THEM PUT ON.AND SO JUST TO START OUT, FOR EXAMPLE, WE ALREADY KNOW AS A BOARD, WE'VE IDENTIFIED A QUESTION TO BE ANSWERED OF HOW DO I DONATE ART TO THE CITY? OR HOW DOES SOMEONE DONATE ART TO THE CITY? HOW DOES ART GET DECOMMISSIONED IN THE CITY? THOSE TWO, WE KNOW THAT WE THINK THAT SHOULD BE ANSWERED.
BASED ON WHAT YOU READ HERE, BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE AS LIBRARIANS, WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU THINK IT'S VITAL THAT THE COMMISSION TELL THE COMMITTEE THAT WE SHOULD HELP THEM ANSWER? WELL, THE FIRST QUESTION IS WHAT IS, HOW ARE YOU DEFINING THE COMMISSION? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING WE JUST DON'T WANT ANYMORE? WE GOING TO GET RID OF IT OR, OR TAKE IT OFF? SO THIS WOULD BE GETTING, I WOULD THINK THAT MEANS GETTING RID OF IT.
THERE IS PROBABLY ANOTHER ELEMENT THAT IS HOW DO THINGS GET ROTATE? IF YOU HAD A COLLECTION, HOW WOULD THAT DISPLAY GET ROTATED THROUGH DISPLAYS OR SOMETHING? I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST ONES WE WOULD HAVE TO TACKLE.
I'LL WRITE DOWN THE QUESTION, BUT I THINK WE NEED A, WE NEED A COLLECTION FIRST TO COME ACROSS THAT.
HOW ARE COLLECTIONS STORED AND ROTATED WHEN I WAS READING THIS, REALLY NEED TO HAVE THAT WRITTEN BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE UP TO OVERSEEING IT AT THE TIME.
I WOULD, I WOULD SAY RIGHT NOW WHILE WE HAVE FIVE PIECES OF ART, NO.
AND GREG, YOU ASKED EXACTLY THE RIGHT QUESTION.
YOU SAID, HERE'S A QUESTION TO ANSWER, BUT IS THAT ONE WE REALLY NEED TO PRIORITIZE? AND SO YOU'VE ALREADY KEYED IN TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS A BIT OF A TWO STEP PROCESS.
WE'RE GONNA COME UP WITH THE QUESTIONS AND THEN MAYBE OUR NEXT MEETING WE'LL SORT OF FORCE RANK SOME AND SAY, HERE ARE THE TOP THREE THAT WE'RE GONNA TELL THE COMMITTEE WE THINK OUGHT TO BE ANSWERED IN HUMOR AND GET THEIR ALIGNMENT.
SO IT'S OKAY IF SOMEBODY COMES UP WITH A QUESTION AND GOES, WELL, MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE MOST URGENT THING TO BE ANSWERED.
I MEAN, IF WE ARE ABOUT TO DO PUBLIC ART, ARE THERE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD ANSWER RELATED TO PUBLIC ARTS? YES.
ONE OF THE THING, I READ THIS THING ON MY PHONE SO I MAY HAVE MISSED IT, BUT, UM, IT REALLY DIDN'T DESCRIBE WHAT KIND OF ARTWORK THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTED.
FOR EXAMPLE, AT MY OLD LIBRARY, WE GOT A PRINT AND A LITTLE OAK FRAME THAT SOMEBODY WANTED TO DONATE.
IT WAS JUST A PRINT PROBABLY FROM
BUT WE NEED TO DEFINE WHAT KIND OF ART WE'RE GOING TO TAKE.
LIKE ORIGINAL ART, NOT COPIES OR REPRODUCTIONS.
PROBABLY, I I PUT NOTES DOWN, ARTWORK PULLED BY HANDFUL BY THE ARTIST STEREOGRAPHS.
NUMBERED LITHOGRAPHS, NOTHING POLITICAL, RELIGIOUS OR DIVISIVE.
SO, UH, WHAT ART, SO THE QUESTIONS WE WOULD WANT TO ANSWER IS WHAT ART IS SUBMITTABLE OR DEMANDABLE? CORRECT.
WHAT I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GIVE US A PRINT, WE AUTOMATICALLY SAY THAT'S PROBABLY NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT.
UM, IN OUR MURAL SENSE, IF A PRIVATE BUILDING WERE TO WANT TO PUT UP A GIANT MURAL, THEY WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH OUR ZONING DEPARTMENT.
WOULD WE LET THE ZONING DEPARTMENT TO TAP US TAP COUNCIL? WHO DO THEY TAP TO SAY, HERE'S THE ROUGH RENDERING OF WHAT KROGER WANTS TO PUT ON THEIR 600 FOOT WALL? WELL, THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE, THE SIGN RIGHT? WITH ZONING.
BUT BECAUSE OF HIS ART, DO WE FEEL WE NEED TO BE INVOLVED OR DO YOU, DO YOU FEEL YOU NEED THE QUESTION OF, IS IT ART
WE'RE TRYING TO DISCOVER IF THAT'S A QUESTION YOU THINK NEEDS AN ANSWER.
SO WHAT I KNOW, MY QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THE PRIVATE, IN PRIVATE INSTALLATION OF PUBLIC ART? SHOULD THE COMMISSION BE INVOLVED SUPPORT ZONING AND COUNCIL? I KNOW, I JUST FEEL WE'D BE OPENING UP A HECK OF A CAN OF WORMS IF WE'RE GONNA, WE ARE GOING TO SIT IN ON DICTATING WHAT A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO PAINT ON
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THEIR BUILDING OUTSIDE OF THE SIGNED ORDINANCES.I THINK THAT'S THE, THAT MIGHT BE THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION.
BUT I THINK WE, IF ONE POSSIBLE ANSWER IT, IT'S GOOD TO ASK THE QUESTION.
AND ALSO, WHAT TYPES OF VISUAL ARE I, I LISTED A FEW, BUT ALSO SCULPTURE, OTHER QUESTIONS RELATED TO ART AND BEAUTIFICATION HERE IN HERE.
I THINK ONE ABOUT, UM, LIKE AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT A PLACE FOR OUR MURAL, IF WHERE TO THE, THE ATHLETIC FOUNDATION, TURN THIS DOWN.
BUT IF WE'RE TO FIND ANOTHER LOCATION FOR IT, AND THAT LOCATION IS NOT OWNED BY THE CITY, WHAT AUTHORITY DO WE HAVE OVER IT? YOU KNOW, IF THE ATHLETIC FOUNDATION SAID YES, WE PUT IT UP AND A COUPLE MONTHS LATER THAT, EH, WE DON'T LIKE IT AND PAINT OVER IT, ARE WE GONNA ALLOW, LIKE WHAT AUTHORITY DO WE HAVE OVER THE, UM, UH, THE LONGEVITY OF ART THAT WE COMMISSIONED? I THINK I'D LIKE TO YES.
AND THAT BECAUSE IT DOVETAILS TO, YOU KNOW, I COMING FROM MARKETING, I, I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT, UH, COPYRIGHT WHO, YOU KNOW, CAN I, CAN WE TAKE PICTURES OF THAT? DO WE HAVE THE LIKE, SIGN OFF FORMS AND ALL OF THAT? DOES THAT PROCESS EXIST? AND IT WOULD DETAIL ALSO WHAT COULD BE DONE WITH IT.
DO WE OWN THAT ART OR DOES THE ARTIST OWN THAT ART? OR IS IT A PUBLIC CITY? YEAH, BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S A COMPLEX.
HOW WOULD YOU EVEN ENFORCE THAT? I MEAN, YOU'D ALMOST HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY 24 7 TO SAY, OH, YOU CAN'T TAKE A PICTURE OF THAT.
I MEAN, IT'S REALLY COMMON, UH, LIKE A BANKSY OR AN OWNED PIECE OF PUBLIC ART.
IF SOMEBODY PUTS IT ONLINE, IT WOULD BE UP TO THE OWNER OF THE COPYRIGHT TO ACTUALLY, UM, IF THEY SEE IT, YOU KNOW, ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR IN DIGITAL ART TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, SUBMIT A COPYRIGHT VIOLATION.
I DON'T THINK, UM, LIKE, AGAIN, WE DON'T WANNA GET INTO SOLUTIONING, BUT I WOULD THINK OUR POLICY WOULD BE IF YOU, UH, CREATE A PIECE OF PUBLIC ART FOR CITY OF HUB HEIGHTS, IT IS GIVEN COPYRIGHT FREE AND IS CONSIDERED A PUBLIC INSTALLATION FOR THE PURPOSES OF ROYALTIES.
IT'S LIKE, UM, THAT WOULD JUST BE MY EXPECTATION.
BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE THAT SOMEWHERE.
BUT AGAIN, THAT MAY NOT BE THE ANSWER.
IT'S JUST THE ANSWER THAT'S IN MY HEAD.
THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE, UH, LIKE COMMERCIALLY, UH, IF YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE A TEENAGER TAKING PROM PICTURES.
OH, TAKE A PROM PICTURE IN FRONT OF THE MURAL.
THAT WOULD BE A COOL PLACE TO TAKE A PICTURE.
BUT DO WE WANT, UM, COMMERCIAL PHOTOGRAPHER TO GO TAKE A PICTURE OF THE MURAL AND THEN SELL PRINTS OF THE MURAL? RIGHT.
AT A ART SHOW OR ONLINE? I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY NEAT JUST TO HAVE A MURAL, HAVE A PLACE THAT IS A GREAT SELFIE SECTION OF IT.
SOMETHING NEAR THE, THE FLOOR.
SO THAT FOR PROM PHOTOS OR FOR THE IT CAN BE DONE, BUT YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
YOU DON'T WANT AN ARTIST REPRODUCING IT AND SELLING.
I DON'T THINK YOU COULD ENFORCE THAT.
WELL AGAIN, THAT THESE ARE THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTION, BUT THE QUESTION ITSELF IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LET THE, THE COMMITTEE DECIDE.
FOR COMPANIES IT WOULD BE, UM, IF, IF YOU INSTALL A MURAL ON A PRIVATE BUILDING, WE WOULD'VE A CONTRACT WITH THEM.
NOW I THINK SOMETHING HERE IS A GOOD QUESTION OF, AND SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD, WHAT WE NEED SOME DETERMINANT FOR.
WHEN SOMETHING THAT IS NOT POLITICAL BECOMES POLITICAL.
AND I GUESS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD BE BEGINNING AROUND THE 20TH CENTURY BOY SCOUTS USED TO HAVE A MERIT BADGE AND A LOT OF 'EM USED THE DESIGN, WHICH WAS A REVERSE OF THE NAZI CROSS.
AND YOU NEVER, YOU DON'T SEE THEM USE THAT ANYMORE BECAUSE AS THE NOT PARTY FROZE AND TOOK OVER THE, UH, WIRING REPUBLIC, UM, ALL OF A SUDDEN PEOPLE BECAME UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
BUT IF WE HAD A DESIGN LIKE THAT, THAT SUDDENLY BECAME POLITICAL.
I WAS THINKING OF THAT TOO, HOW I'VE TAKEN DOWN STATUES AND THINGS AND
NOT THAT WE HAVE THAT, BUT THAT'S A GOOD STRONG SURE.
SO DO WE, SO THEN THE QUESTION WE MIGHT
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WANT TO ANSWER IS, DO WE WANT TO SUGGEST TO THE COMMITTEE THAT, UM, OR KNOW HOW I SAY THIS NEUTRALLY? IS THERE A REVIEW PROCESS FOR ART THAT EXISTS THAT CITIZENS NEWLY FIND OBJECTIONABLE OR QUESTIONABLE? LIKE IF A CITIZEN IS DRIVING BY AND SUDDENLY REALIZES OUR CITY SEAL HAS SOME ODD SYMBOL IN IT, WE'RE NOT EVEN TOO FAR FROM THE REALITY.THE MASCOT OF LANE HIGH SCHOOL IS VIEWED AS AN APPROPRIATE BY, BY SOME MM-HMM
HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT IN PUBLIC? AND WE, AND THE COUNCIL AND, AND THE COMMITTEE MAY NOT WANT US TO CREATE A POLICY FOR THAT.
THEY MAY WANT JUST CALL YOUR AWARD REPRESENTATIVE AND SAY OUT OF IT.
ASK WHAT? IT'S A QUESTION ASK.
OTHER QUESTIONS TO ASK? WE ARE VERY FIXATED ON ART BECAUSE THAT HAS MORE, YOU KNOW, INS AND OUTS.
WE ARE THE ART BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO POLICY AND PROCEDURE RELATED TO UNIFICATION IN THE CITY? FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN, UH, ON, I CAN NEVER REMEMBER, WHICH IS 2 0 1 AND WHICH IS 2 0 2.
THAT ROAD OVER THERE, THAT'S 2 0 1 BRAND.
UM, UP BY THE Y THEY DID THE, THEY HAVE THESE METAL HOOKS WITH THESE REALLY PRETTY PINK PLANTER BASKETS AND THEY JUST WENT UP ONE DAY.
THEY CERTAINLY WERE BEAUTIFYING.
AND IT'S OKAY, I'M NOT COMPLAINING.
I DON'T HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN ANYTHING.
BUT, UM, IF A COMMITTEE MEMBER HAD A GREAT IDEA OF CREATING SOME PLANTER BOX OR SOMETHING, WOULD THEY LEVERAGE OUR COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLANTS THEY WERE USING WERE NOT BRAD REPAIRS? SO THE QUESTION IS, HOW MUCH INVOLVEMENT DO WE HAVE WITH UNIFICATION THAT IS NOT INSTIGATED BY US? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT WAY OF SAYING THAT.
DO YOU WANT TO BE CONSULTED? KIND OF, YEAH.
WE KIND OF, UH, RAN INTO BACK, I SUGGESTED THE WRAPS AND THEN WE FOUND OUT SOMEBODY WAS DOING THE WRAPS MM-HMM
WHICH I'VE SEEN A BUNCH OF THEM.
I THINK THERE'S MORE THAT ARE GONNA GO UP AND THEY'RE, THEY STILL NEED SOME DESIGN.
SO I DO THINK THAT I'LL, WE'LL BE CIRCLING BACK TO YOU FOR SOME IDEAS.
UM, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY A GOOD POINT.
SO YEAH, WHEN THAT'S A, THAT'S A REALLY GREAT EXAMPLE.
WHEN OTHER UH, COMMISSIONS HAVE IDEAS THAT HAVE A BEAUTIFICATION ELEMENT, HOW DO WE HELP AND SUPPORT OR DO.
SO WELL THAT ALSO HELPS IT, IT WON'T BE REDUNDANT THAT WAY.
I WANNA BE RESPECT, UH, RESPECTFUL ON TIME.
ARE THERE, I KNOW IF YOU ARE LIKE ME, YOU'RE GONNA WAKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND GO, OH, HERE ARE FIVE MORE QUESTIONS AFTER YOU LOOK AT THIS.
I DON'T WANNA RUSH THE DISCUSSION.
WE CAN TAKE FIVE OR 10 MORE MINUTES, BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY IF YOU COME UP WITH MORE QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED, EMAIL THEM DIRECTLY TO SARAH.
I PERSONALLY DIDN'T PRINT THIS UNTIL TODAY, SO I TOTALLY HAVE NOT READ IT IN THE DETAIL.
THE OTHER PIECE OF PAPER I I GAVE YOU IS A, WITH THE HELP OF AI, I DID EDIT A BIT, BUT WITH THE HELP OF AI, I JUST ASKED FOR SOME COMMON POLICIES AND PROCEDURES RELATED TO ART THAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE, WHICH ACROSS THE NATION THAT'S VERY HELPFUL.
SO SOME OF IT, I WAS LIKE, THAT'S NOT EXACTLY THE NAIL ON THE HEAD, BUT I LEFT IT IN THERE BECAUSE I THOUGHT THEY MIGHT BE ACTUALLY LIKE FUTURE INITIATIVES OF THE BOARD, LIKE A PERCENT FOR ART PROGRAM OR UM, TALKING ABOUT INTEGRATING ART INTO
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THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERHAPS OF WHERE THE MUSIC CENTERS ARE GOING AND YOU KNOW, WOULD WE WANT TO TAP SOME OF THESE IDEAS FOR NOT JUST POLICY AND PROCEDURE BUT WOULD BE GOOD SPARKS OR SOMETHING TO THANK YOU.ANY OTHER ADDITIONS ON THAT? OH, AND THE OTHER THING I GAVE YOU WAS THE UM, ORDINANCE, WHICH SOMETHING I FOUND CRAZY INTERESTING THAT I HAD NOT SEEN BEFORE IS THAT NOT ALL OF THIS BOARD HAS TO BE A RESIDENT.
I JUST FINISHED UNLESS THERE IS SOME SORT OF PIECE OF LEGISLATION SUPERSEDING THIS THEN I DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
SO I NEED TO ASK TONY FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
BUT SO CLEARLY THERE'S AT LEAST ONE THING WE NEED CLARIFIED ON THIS ORDINANCE.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE REALM OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ASK, HEY, WE HAVE THESE SUGGESTIONS ON HOW YOU MIGHT UPDATE THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR.
BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY LOST A BOARD MEMBER BECAUSE SHE MOVED OUT OF CITY.
SO THERE COULD BE LEGISLATION SUPERSEDING IT, BUT I DON'T YEAH.
I'M TRYING RATHER SURPRISING IN CASE, BUT IT MAKES SENSE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IF YOU THOUGHT OTHER THAN JUST USING X OF, IF I HAD A SHIELD MEMBERS EX OFFICIO, WELL, OR THE CHAIR OF CULTURE WORKS DOESN'T HAPPEN TO BE A RESIDENT BUT WANTS TO SIT ON OUR BOARD, YOU KNOW, UH, SOMEBODY WHO WORKS WITH DAYTON ART MU INSTITUTE, SOMEBODY WITH A SPECIFIC EXPERTISE.
IS THAT WHAT THIS LEGISLATION WAS ORIGINALLY TRYING TO ALLOW FOR? OR AN ART TEACHER THAT DOESN'T LIVE HERE IN THE SCHOOLS? WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I JUST GIVE YOU WHAT FIND IS A LITTLE SURPRISING.
I SAT ON THE, THIS BOARD, WELL THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE.
BOARD WE COMMITTEE, COMMISSION.
AND AT THAT TIME IN THE NINETIES HAD, COULD ONLY BE ON THE BOARD IF ONE WAS A RESIDENT.
JUST SEEING THIS CAUSE ME TO LIFT AN EYEBROW OR LOOK.
SO PLEASE, ANY QUESTIONS YOU COME UP WITH ABOUT THIS AS WELL.
THIS IS UNDER DATE OF 2011 YEARS.
AND I DON'T DUNNO IF ANYBODY'S THOUGHT OF THIS, BUT I, I WOULD THINK PEOPLE WHO MAY BE INTERESTED IN JUST, UH, LOANING AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BETTER WAY TO GO.
AND THERE'S NO, WE DON'T OWN THAT.
WE MAYBE ENSURE IT'S, I KNOW THIS IS A BAD EXAMPLE, BUT AT UM, AT A NURSING HOME, MY MOTHER VOLUNTEERED AT, THEY HAVE THIS, THIS CASE IN THE FRONT THAT, UM, RESIDENTS CAN DISPLAY A COLLECTION FOR A MONTH.
AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, SISTER MAPLE'S COLLECTION OF HUMBLE FIGURINES AND OVER HERE IS BILL'S COLLECTION OF JDI.
AND, AND, AND IT'S ALWAYS REALLY, REALLY INTERESTING 'CAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S JUST JUNK THEY'VE COLLECTED AND THAT BLESS THEIR HEART, SOMETIMES IT'S ART THEY'VE MADE AND, AND IT IS A MUCH HIGHER, YOU KNOW, UH, PROCESS OF ORGANIZATION.
BUT I'VE SEEN SOME CITIES DO THAT SORT OF THING IN THE CITY HALL OR IN WHEREVER.
THEY HAVE A CASE OF, FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, FOR THE NEXT QUARTER, WHATEVER IT IS, HERE IS A DISPLAY OF A CITIZEN'S ART.
AND I THINK THAT CAN BE REALLY INTERESTING.
WELL, WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE ART SHOW LAST YEAR, ASKING THE WINNERS TO ALLOW US TO DISPLAY THEIR ARTWORK A PERIOD OF TIME AFTERWARD.
SO IT WAS SOMETHING WE ALREADY THINKING OF, OF DOING.
THAT, THAT WORK WOULD BE ON LOAN.
DID YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF WAIVER? WE DIDN'T END UP GOING THROUGH IT BECAUSE I ASKED TOO MANY QUESTIONS AND STEERED EVERYBODY AWAY FROM IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE HOUSES.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD HAVE AN ART SHOW WHEN I WAS IN TEXAS AND I WOULD GO FROM A AND, UM, PEOPLE WOULD'VE TO SIGN A WAIVER BECAUSE IT WAS IN A PUBLIC AREA AND OF COURSE NOTHING HAPPENED.
BUT I DON'T WANNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMEBODY'S ARTWORK AND DESTROYED OR STOLEN WELL, BUT YOU ARE WELL HOW IF THEY SIGN A WAIVER THAT'S RIGHT.
THEY SOMETIMES, THEY SOMETIMES DON'T.
UM, IT'S BASICALLY ABOUT WHO'S GONNA ARGUE FOR AGAINST THE WAIVER AND THE COURT OF LAW OR DROP IT WHILE YOU'RE HANGING IT.
WELL I AM GONNA MOVE US FORWARD.
UH, SO PLEASE EMAIL SARAH IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED.
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UM, ON OUR OLD BUS OR ON OUR NEW BUSINESS LIST.THERE'S A HOLIDAY EVENT ON 12 SIX FROM FOUR TO 7:00 PM THAT OUR COMMISSION IS NOT OWNING.
BUT SARAH WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE HAVE SOME VOLUNTEERS.
SARAH, YOU WANNA TELL US ABOUT IT? YES.
SO FIRST THERE IS, UM, THERE ACTUALLY THE PARADE STARTS AT THREE AND SO IF THE COMMISSION WERE INTERESTED IN MARCHING IN THE PARADE AS A COMMISSION, YOU ARE WELCOME TO DO SO AND WE'LL CONNECT YOU TO GET YOU ENTERED.
UM, IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO MARCH IN THE PARADE, THAT'S OKAY.
UM, WE COULD USE VOLUNTEERS AT THE EVENT.
WE ARE MAKING PORCH, LITTLE TREE, LITTLE ORNAMENTS, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE HOMES SO PEOPLE COME MAKE THEIR ORNAMENT.
UM, WE CAN USE YOU IN THAT CAPACITY.
IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER IDEA THAT YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT, WE'D BE HAPPY TO HELP YOU OFFER THAT TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO COMPLETELY UP TO YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE AT ALL, BUT WE CAN USE THE VOLUNTEERS.
SO, UM, THEN JUST KIND OF RELATING TO THAT, THIS IS ADDITIONAL BUSINESS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.
UM, I WANNA SHARE A COUPLE THINGS.
IT'LL FLOOR WILL BE OPEN IF YOU DO TOMORROW AT 4:00 PM IS THE CULTURE WORKS ANNUAL MEETING.
THAT IS THE PREMIER ARTS FUNDING ORGANIZATION IN DATON, OHIO.
IF YOU IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, IF YOU WANT TO ATTEND, TALK TO ME.
I'LL GET YOU ALL OF THE DETAILS.
NOVEMBER 20TH IS THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY ALT ARTS AND CULTURAL DISTRICT.
M-C-A-C-D LUNCHEON AT COCO'S BISTRO.
UM, SARAH'S NOT ABLE TO ATTEND, BUT UH, IF YOU, IF YOU OR ANY OF YOUR ORGANIZATIONS HAVE A PERSON TO BE INVITED, I WOULD BE THERE.
AND THEN, UH, BOURBON AND BUBBLES FOR THE DAYTON ART INSTITUTE IS FRIDAY.
TICKETS ARE STILL AVAILABLE AND I LIKE BOURBON.
MEL THERE
UH, OTHER ARMS BEAUTIFICATION AND OR FUN INFORMATION TO SHARE? WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL IS HAVING OUR FALL PLAY.
UH, A ONE O'CLOCK SHOW AND A SEVEN O'CLOCK SHOW ON THAT SATURDAY.
AND THE SEVEN O'CLOCK SHOW ON THE FRIDAY.
AND WHAT'S THE PLAY? UH, ARSENIC AND OLD LAKE
UM, BUT TICKETS ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE THROUGH OUR, UH, TICKETING SITE.
I'VE BEEN TO A HIGH SCHOOL PLACE SINCE I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL.
LOTS OF THE THEATER KIDS COME TO THE LIBRARY ALL THE TIME, SO I REALLY WANNA KNOW.
YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD BE LIKE, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN UH, THE 15TH, THE EVENING IS TO PET A FLARE FOR THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.
SO I CAN'T GO ON THE EVENING, BUT MAYBE I'M THINKING GOING ON THAT FRI THAT 14TH.
UM, IT WOULD BE LOVELY TO SEE A LOT OF THE COMMISSION SUPPORT OUR HIGH SCHOOL KIDS PLAY.
ANY OTHERS? WELL I WOULD DEARLY LOVE TO JOIN YOU ON THE 14TH, BUT MY CAT IS GETTING THEN YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO GO ON THE 15TH.
I DID NOT WANT THAT'S GOING IN THE MINUTES.
ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY THEN YOU ARE ALSO PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.
UPON YOUR REVIEW WERE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS, ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? IF NOT, I WOULD BE OPEN FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PROVIDED.
ALL IN AGREEMENT PLEASE SAY AYE.
I LIKE IT WHEN I GET TO BANG MY, OKAY, SO THE LAST THING IS, UM, UPCOMING MEETINGS.
WE ARE GOING TO HOLD OUR DECEMBER MEETING AS OF THIS MOMENT.
SHOULD THERE BE SEVERE WEATHER? WE WILL FOLLOW, UH, THE, IF THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, THE CITY CLOSE.
IF THE CITY CLOSES, WE WOULD CANCEL THAT MEETING AND WE WOULD HEAR FROM SARAH ON THAT.
OTHERWISE WE WILL HOLD THAT MEETING IN THE NEW BUILDING.
UH, THEY UM, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, TECH IS, THEY WANT BREATHING ROOM ON THE TECH.
SO WE WILL HEAR THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR.
AND THEN IN THE NEW BUILDING IN JANUARY, YOU CAN EXPECT TO BE THERE.
YOU CAN WALK ACROSS THE STREET.
I'M REALLY EXCITED 'CAUSE I TAKE MY DOG TO DOG TOWN SO I COULD LIKE,
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UM, OKAY, SO LAST THING.THIS JANUARY MEETING IS COMING UP, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
AND I WAS VOTED IN AS COMMITTEE CHAIR AT BEING JANUARY.
CHERYL WAS MY VICE CHAIR AND IT IS THEN, UH, JANUARY WE WOULD ELECT OFFICERS.
SO IF YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT, HEY, I'D LIKE TO DO THIS THING.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, LET ME KNOW.
WE REALLY ONLY HAVE A CHAIR AND A VICE.
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF OVERHEAD.
THERE'S NOT SECRETARIES AND THIS OR THAT, BUT IT IS, UH, IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT CLUTCHING THE GAVEL WITH MY COLD DEAD HANDS.
ONE THING IS THIRD MONDAY IN JANUARY WILL BE MARTIN LUTHER K KING DAY.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO RESCHEDULE THAT.
I WILL HAVE A HANDFUL OF DATES AT OUR, AT OUR DECEMBER MEETING.
AND I'LL CHECK THE REST OF THE YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN WITH SOMETHING ELSE.
UM, WE'LL SAY THAT TOMORROW IS ELECTION DAY.
PLEASE DO NOT VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATE NOT AND THE ISSUES OF YOUR CHOICE.
SAY THAT AGAIN FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK.
UH, LEVY, LAST TIME FAILED BY THREE VOTES.
SO IF YOU FEEL PASSIONATE, IT'S UP HERE.
BUT I I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, HERE IN CUBA I VOTED EARLIER.
SAY GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF INDIVIDUAL VOTES.
THREE PEOPLE CAN CHANGE AN ELECTION.
THREE PEOPLE CAN CHANGE AN ELECTION HERE.
OH, I REMEMBER A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER THAT THE VOTE CAME DOWN WITH ONE VOTE.
THE PERSON WAS ELECTED BY ONE VOTE, ONE SINGLE VOTE HAPPENS.
UH, THEN DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS MEETING? I SO MOVE NOW.
ALL IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE MEETING, SAY AYE.