[1. Call The Meeting To Order - Mayor Jeff Gore]
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>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE SESSION AND WE
[2. Invocation - Pastor Randy Griffith Of The Free Methodist Church At 6875 Old Troy Pike, Huber Heights, Ohio]
ARE GETTING RIGHT AT 6:00 FOR THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDER. OUR INVOCATION BY PASTOR RANDY GRIFFITH FROM THE METHODIST CHURCH. GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR.>> APOSTLE PAUL WROTE, NOW WE SEE BUT A POOR REFLECTION AS IN A MIRROR. THEN, WE SHALL SEE FACE TO FACE. NOW, I KNOW IN PART AND THEN I SHALL KNOW FULLY EVEN AS I AM FULLY KNOWN WHAT DO YOU NO? DO YOU KNOW? HOW WELL DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW AND HOW WELL DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU KNOW? DO YOU KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING? DO YOU KNOW EVERYTHIN THEMSELVES OR OTHERS EXPERT, BUT HOW FAR DOES THAT GO? IT MIGHT BE SAID, BEWARE OF THE EXPERTS.
REGARDING THE THINGS OF GOD, IT'S BETTER TO BE A STUDENT.
THERE ARE REALLY ONLY STUDENTS OF THE BIBLE AND NOT EXPERTS.
THE PURPOSE OF THE BIBLE IS TO POINT PEOPLE TO JESUS. JUST BECAUSE WE ARE NOT EXPERTS DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T KNOW ANYTHING. ESPECIALLY IF THE LORD REVEALS IT. IT IS ONLY BY REVELATION THAT WE CAN KNOW AND WE CAN LEARN ABOUT HIM LARGELY BY WHAT WE READ IN THE BIBLE, ESPECIALLY ABOUT WHAT WE LEARN ABOUT JESUS IN THE BIBLE. TO KNOW SOMEONE, YOU HAVE TO FIRST MEET THEM. OTHERWISE, YOU ONLY KNOW ABOUT THEM. YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THEM IS LIMITED. GOD DRAWS PEOPLE TO JESUS BY FAITH. THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST COMES TO LIVE IN BELIEVERS REVEALING GOD. HE MAKES OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD PERSONAL.
SO, THAT WE MAY KNOW THE LORD. JESUS SAYS, HERE I AM. STAND AT THE DOOR AND KNOCK AND IF ANYBODY HEARS MY VOICE AND OPENS THE DOOR, I WILL COME IN AND EAT WITH HIM AND HE WITH ME. THIS IS AN INVITATION REGARDING SALVATION. IT IS ABOUT OPENING UP YOUR WHOLE LIFE TO JESUS AND INVITING HIM IN. IT IS ABOUT RELATIONSHIP. HAVING INVITED HIM IN AND HAVING RELATIONSHIP ESTABLISHED CONTINUING IN THAT RELATIONSHIP. SPENDING TIME WITH HIM AND HIM WITH YOU DAILY. GETTING TO KNOW HIM MORE AND MORE. LIKE HE KNOWS US. LET'S PRAY. FATHER, PRAY THAT EVERYONE WOULD COME TO KNOW YOU, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT SALVATION IS. WE KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TODO IT, SO DRAW PEOPLE TO CHRIST. WE WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU WORK IN THIS MEETING TONIGHT, AS WELL.
GIVE WISDOM AND GUIDANCE TO THOSE INVOLVED, SO THAT MIGHT BE
DONE IN WAY THAT IS GOOD. AMEN. >> WELCOME THE WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL
[3. Pledge Of Allegiance]
AIR FORCE ROTC JUNIOR HONOR GUARD.>> PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL .
[4. Roll Call]
>> THE ROLL, PLEASE. >> BYRGE IS NOT HERE THIS
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EVENING, BUT SHE HAS LET US KNOW THAT SHE WILL NOT BE AT THISMEETING. >> MOTION TO EXCUSE NANCY'S
>> MOTION AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION?
[5. Approval Of Minutes]
NEXT, ITEM 5A, APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATED AUGUST 25, 2025. IF THERE ARE NO CORRECTIONS OR CO, DOES IT STAND APPROVED. ANYONE? SEEING NONE.THOSE MINUTES ARE APPROPRIATE ITEM SIX, SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS
OR ANNOUNCEMENTS. >> THERE ARE NONE THIS EVENING.
[8. City Manager Report]
>> NUMBER SEVEN, CITIZENS COMMENTS ON SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS? NEXT, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, CITY MANAGER REPORT. JOHN, GOOD
TO SEE YOU, SIR. >> HOW ARE YOU?
>> GOOD. >> A COUPLE OF THINGS. JUST A REMINDER THAT TODAY WAS THE LAST DAY TO SIGN UP FOR THE GARAGE SALE AND HAVE YOUR ADDRESS PRINTED, THEN ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE, BUT STILL FREE TO HAVE A GARAGE SALE AND IT WON'T BE IN THE PUBLICATION THAT WE PUT OUT. IT IS THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. ALSO, JUST REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THEY WILL BE ONLINE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE HARD COPIES, AS WELL. A CULTURAL FESTIVAL WILL BE THERE SATURDAY FROM 11 TO 6:00 AT THE AMPHITHEATER WITH FOOD, MUSIC AND A REALLY GOOD EVENT IF YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN. WE DO HAVE ONE TRAFFIC ADVISORY COMING UP NEXT WEEK, BUT BECAUSE THE WORK SESSION IS TUESDAY, I THOUGHT I WOULD TELL YOU ABOUT IT NOW. IT HITS SOCIAL MEDIA OVER THE WEEKEND. THE AREA REALLY BETWEEN BRIDGEWATER AND LITTLE YORK IS GOING TO BE CLOSE ON TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY FROM 7:00 TO 3:00 P.M.
WE DO HAVE AT THE END OF THE MONTH, THE OPEN HOUSE OF THE FIREHOUSE THAT WILL BE SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 28TH FROM NOON TO 3:00 AND IT WILL BE AT STATION 22. THEN, WE HAVE A THURSDAY EVENT ON OCTOBER 16TH AT DOGTOWN IN HUBER HEIGHTS. IT WILL BE PUPS AND POLICE WITH COSTUMES AND OTHER EVENTS FROM FIVE TO 7:00.
LASTLY, WE ARE STILL TAKING APPLICATIONS FOR OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. THOSE WILL END ON OCTOBER 17TH. I WILL TAKE
QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR JOHN? NEXT UP, ITEM NINE, PENDING BUSINESS.
>> THERE IS NO PENDING BUSINESS. >> NEXT, ITEM 10 UNDER NEW
[ An Ordinance Amending Ordinance No. 2024-O-2676 By Making Supplemental Appropriations For Expenses Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio For The Period Beginning January 1, 2025 And Ending December 31, 2025. (first reading)]
BUSINESS, 10 A >> AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-0-2676 BY MAKING SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR EXPENSES OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO FOR THE PERIOD BEGINNING JANUARY 1, 25 AND ENDING DECEMBER 31,
>> THESE ARE THE THREE ITEMS THAT JIM OUTLINED AND TO NOTE, JUST REMEMBER, ZERO BUDGETARY IMPACT. THESE INCREASES ARE COVERED BY MATCHING GRANTS, NOTES AND FIRE DEPARTMENT
INSURANCE DEPOSITS. >> THANK YOU. WEIGH THE SECOND
READING AND OFF THIS EVENING. >> MOVED TO WAIVE.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO WAIVE. ANY DISCUSSION?
>> MOTION AND SECOND FOR ADOPTION? ANY DISCUSSION?
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Amend Work Rules And Policies And To Establish Procedures For Implementing Personnel Regulations. (first reading)]
NEXT IS ITEM 10 BE. >> A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AMEND WORK RULES AND POLICIES AND ESTABLISHING PROCEDURES FOR IMPLEMENTING PERSONNEL REGULATIONS, FIRST
READING. >> ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS?
>> KITTY DID A GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO EXPLAIN THIS, BUT ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER TO REGULATE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS AND POLICIES. THE AMENDMENTS RELATED WITH CHARTER PROVISIONS WILL STAY AND YOU WILL SEE THOSE.
>> THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION? >> MOVED TO ADOPT.
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>> IS THERE A SECOND? >> MOTION AND SECOND. ANY
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Execute Any Necessary Documents Or Agreements For Participation Agreements In Any Future Opioid Settlements. (first reading)]
>> MOTION CARRIES 8-0. 10 C. THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ANY NECESSARY DOCUMENT ARGUMENTS FOR PARTICIPATION AGREEMENTS IN ANY FUTURE OPIOID SETTLEMENTS.
>> JOHN, IF YOU COULD CLARIFY AGAIN?
>> JUST A REMINDER, IT AUTHORIZES US TO RECEIVE THE FUNDS AND SETTLE THE AGREEMENTS. WE WILL COME BACK DURING BUDGET TIME TO DISCUSS THE EXPENDITURES. MY RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT. IS THERE A MOTION?
>> MOVED TO ADOPT. >> MOTION AND SECOND. ANY
[ A Resolution To Increase The Not To Exceed Amount For 911 Fleet And Equipment For The Purpose Of Purchasing Firefighting Personal Protective Equipment For Fiscal Year 2025. (first reading)]
>> MOTION CARRIES 8-0. NEXT IS ITEM ATTENDEE.
>> I WAS LOOKING TO INCREASE THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT FOR 911 FLEET AND EQUIPMENT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PURCHASING FIREFIGHTING PERSONAL PROJECT OF EQUIPMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025.
>> YES, CHIEF EXPLAINED THE INCREASE IS DUE TO PRICING AND ALSO SOME PERSONAL INCREASES AND THE LIMIT IS $20,000.
>> THANK YOU. RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION. IS THERE A MOTION TO
ADOPT? SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? >>
[ A Resolution To Increase The Not To Exceed Amount For Atlantic Emergency Solutions For The Purpose Of Purchasing Fire And EMS Apparatus Maintenance And Parts For Fiscal Year 2025. (first reading)]
>> MOTION CARRIES 8-0. THE NEXT IS ITEM 10 IN A.
>> A RESOLUTION TO INCREASE THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT FOR THE ATLANTIC EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PURCHASING FIRE AND EMS APPARATUS MAINTENANCE AND PARTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025.
>> JUST A REMINDER, THIS IS THE INCREASE FOR REPAIRS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE DO OWN FLEET MAINTENANCE THROUGH ATLANTIC
EMERGENCY SYSTEMS. >> RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION.
>> MOVED TO ADOPT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Prepare And Submit An Application To Participate In The Ohio Public Works Commission State Capital Improvement And/Or Local Transportation Improvement Program(s) And To Execute Contracts As Required For The Taylorsville Road 24" Water Main Project. (first reading)]
10 F. >> A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO PREPARE AND SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO PARTICIPATE IN OHIO PUBLIC WORKS COMMISSION STATE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND/OR LOCAL TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS AND TO EXECUTE CONTRACTS AS REQUIRED FOR THE TAYLORSVILLE ROAD 24 INCH WATER MAIN PROJECT.
>> JOHN? >> AGAIN, RUSSELL DID A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING THIS AND THIS IS FOR THE 24 INCH MAIN.
>> AS A REMINDER, THIS IS A PARALLEL PROJECT. NOT A FULL
>> RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT.
>> MOTION TO ADOPT. >> SECOND.
>> MOTION AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION?
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract To Purchase Two (2) Class 7 Snowplow Dump Trucks And Appurtenant Equipment Thereto For The Public Works Division And Waiving The Competitive Bidding Requirements. (first reading)]
G. >> A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT TO PURCHASE TO THE CLASS SEVEN SNOWPLOW DUMP TRUCKS AND APPURTENANT EQUIPMENT THERETO FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION AND WEAVING THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS, FIRST READING.
>> RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION. >> MOVED TO ADOPT.
>> ANYTHING? >> SORRY. NO. I WAS GOING TO
[ A Resolution To Amend Resolution No. 2025-R-7561 To Extend The Current Agreement And To Increase The Not To Exceed Amount For GreenTech Lawn And Irrigation For Additional Mowing, Landscaping, And Irrigation Services For The Public Works Division In Fiscal Year 2026. (first reading)]
>> MOTION CARRIES 8-0. >> NEXT IS ITEM 10 AGE.
>> WAS MOTION TO AMEND RESOLUTION 2025 MINUS ARE -756 WANT TO EXTEND THE CURRENT AGREEMENT AND INCREASED TO NOT EXCEED FOR GREEN TECH LAWN AND IRRIGATION FOR THE ADDITIONAL MOWING, LANDSCAPING AND IRRIGATION SERVICES FOR THE
PUBLIC WORKS DIVISIONFOR FISCAL >> MIKE DID A GOOD JOB AT
EXPLAINING THIS. >> WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION. IS THERE A MOTION?
DISCUSSION? >> BRIEFLY, I WOULD LIKE TO
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THROW FLOWERS AT OUR PUBLIC WORKS MANAGER DRIVING AROUND THE CITY, LIKE YOU ALL DO. IT'S LOOKING REALLY GOOD AND LANDSCAPING IS LOOKING GREAT AND DOING AN AWESOME JOB. I DON'T THINK LANDSCAPING HAS LOOKED THAT GOOD IN A LONG TIME. THE CENTER ISLANDS ARE LOOKING AWESOME AND JUST CONGRATS TO THEPUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR
[11. Citizens Comments - General]
>> MOTION CARRIES 8-0. NEXT IS ITEMCITIZENS COMMENTS IN
THE GENERAL CATEGORY. >> I HAVE ONE THIS EVENING.
>> YOU HAVE A MINUTE AND A HALF.
>> I WANT TO REMIND THE COUNTY ABOUT TOWNSHIP. FREEDOM, FREEDO SPEECH, CHOICE AND FREEDOM TO RESPECT THAT CHOICE. TYPE TWO ANNEXATION LOSS WERE CRAFTED TAXPAYING CITIZENS LIVING IN TOWNSHIPS TAKEN AWAY RELATED TO THE RIGHT TO GOVERN WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE AND DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, ANNEXATION SAID BY HUBER HEIGHTS LAND LOCATED HAVE SHOWN WHAT A BAD ANNEXATION/DEVELOPMENT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE. TYPE TWO ANNEXATION LAWS ARE IN PLACE SPECIFICALLY TO TAKE AWAY THE VOICE OF TOWNSHIP CITIZENS. THE THREE ELECTED TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. THE LAWS ARE MEANT TO PROTECT THE LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS AND NOT TAKE AWAY RIGHTS NO MATTER RACE, RELIGION, FINANCIAL STATUS.
CRAFTED IN COLUMBUS 20 YEARS AGO AND THERE'S A PRIME EXAMPLE OF LEGAL PROCESS. THE WEAPON WAS AIMED BY DEVELOPER AND YOU PULL THE TRIGGER MAKING ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR CAUSING PAIN AND SUFFERING TO THOUSANDS OF CITIZENS LIVING IN TOWNSHIP.
REMEMBER, YOU HAD A CHOICE. THE BETHEL COMMUNITY CAME TO YOU BEGGING FOR HELP. YOU CHOSE MONEY OVER COMPASSION AND YOU CHOSE PROFIT OVER PRINCIPLE. ALL ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES CONDONING AND SUPPORTED IT TYPE TWO ANNEXATION. Y'ALL HAVE INSPIRED TO SUPPORT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. YOU AND ALL ELECTED
[12. City Official Reports And Comments]
REPRESENTATIVE SWEEPING SO LIGHTLY OF CITIZENS RIGHTSSHOULD ALL RESIGN. >> THAT'S WARTIME FOR THIS
EVENING. ANY COMMENTS? >> I KNOW IT'S NOT CITY RAN, BUT I WENT TO HALFTIME USA THIS WEEKEND AND IT WAS SO WELL PUT TOGETHER AND A FUN TIME. I APPRECIATE WITH THE SCHOOLS DID
AND STUFF. IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. >> THANK YOU. I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. DID SOMEONE PUT HIS FEET IN HALFTIME USA 30 SOMETHING YEARS AGO? DID VERY GO ANYTHING ELSE? 30 OR 37 TO 35
YEARS AGO. >> I HAVE PICTURES. I DON'T HAVE VIDEO. VIDEO CAMERAS WERE LIKE $3000 BACK THEN. SEEING
NOTHING ELSE. >> THANK YOU. JOHN RUSSELL, CITY MANAGER. I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS OUR ATTENTION IN SCOTT DAVIDSON'S WARD FOR JUST A MOMENT. PAST RIDGEWATER WILL ROAD GOING WEST ON THE SOUTH SIDE IS SOME TYPE OF MOUNTAIN THAT SOMEONE HAS BUILT AND SOME TYPE OF HARD FILL AND WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY ONCE TO PURCHASE THAT SITE AND WE DIDN'T CHOOSE TO DO THAT, BUT IT WAS A LOT LOWER THAN IT IS TODAY AND I'M VERY CONCERNED AFTER DRIVING PAST YESTERDAY. AM I CORRECT THAT WHERE WE GET OUR WATER IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THAT? IF I RECALL, AND THIS IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME FOLLOW-UP ON, THERE ARE WELLS, MONITORING WELLS THAT THE EPA INSTALLED YEARS AND YEARS AGO. I HOPE THEY ARE STILL THERE AND I HOPE THEY ARE STILL BEING MONITORED. THAT'S THAT. I COULDN'T AGREE WITH DON WEBB MORE ABOUT OUR CITY IN GENERAL. IT LOOKS BETTER THAN IT EVER HAS. WHEN I DRIVE THAT, YOU AND I TALKED IN THE PAST. YOU'VE GOT SOME TYPE OF COMPANY THAT APPARENTLY GRANTA
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BROKE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS AND IT HAS TO BE 50 FEET IN THE AIR, SO I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO LOOK INTO MAYBE AN ASSESSMENT PROJECT AND MAYBE DO SOME ROADWAY ENHANCEMENTS AND IMPROVEMENTS MAYBE WHITE IN IT AND PUT MEDIAN IN IT AND IN FRONT OF THOSE BUSINESSES. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH EXPERIENCE CHRIS HAS ON THAT, BUT I THINK SOME ASSESSMENT PROJECTS CAN BE FUNDED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND I BELIEVE WE CAN STILL TA LAND FOR ROADS. THAT IS A DISASTER DOWN THERE BEING A HOMEOWNER. IT IS LIKE YOU HAVE DRIVEN IN ANOTHER STATE. DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT?>> I DO. >> YOU AGREE WITH ME?
>> I DO. >> I WOULD SERIOUSLY UPGRADE THAT AND UPGRADE IT CURB TO CURB AND IT WILL BE A LOT WIDER THAN THEY ARE TODAY. MAYBE A LOT OF SCREENING, LIKE WITH SOME VEGETATION ON TOP OF IT. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE HAVE TO DONE PLENTY OF ASSESSMENT PROJECTS. YOU HAVE TO PAY THE OWNER OF THE LAND FOR THAT, RIGHT, CHRIS? THEN, IF USS IT 100%, THEN THEY HAVE TO PAY WHAT THEY JUST SOLD IT TO YOU FOR. THEY HOLD YOU UP AND WE ARE GOING TO GET THE MONEY BACK. THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE OUT, THEN IMPROVEMENT WILL BE ASSESSED BACK, BUT THAT'S OUR CITY. I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, HELPING US SELL HOMES OR INCREASE QUALITY OF LIFE. I THINK IT'S A DETRACTOR.
>> I WOULDN'T DISAGREE MORE. >> THAT FOR ME IS AN AREA I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT NEXT. I T COST AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ENHANCED JUST FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY ASPECT AND I THINK THE LAND OWNERS CAN HELP FUND THAT, IF NOT FUND FULLY, BUT IN MY OPINION, IT'S AN EYESORE. I'M NOT GOING TO GET SUED, AND I? FOR THAT? DESCRIBING THAT I BELIEVE IT'S
AN EYESORE. >> IT'S YOUR OPINION.
>> MARK IS REQUESTING THAT OUR STAFF TAKES ACTION AND KIND OF LOOK INTO THAT. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO COLLECTIVELY LOOKING FOR STAFF FOR A SOLUTION DOWN THERE? ANY OBJECTION?
>> I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
>> WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT >> NOT ONLY ABOUT THE LANDFILL DIRT AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THEY TRAVEL SO MUCH AND IT MAKES IT DANGEROUS FOR THE MOTORCYCLES. WE HAVE A MOTORCYCLE PLACE RIGHT THERE THAT COMES DOWN THERE AND IS DANGEROUS EVEN ON THE STREETS OF THE GRAVEL GETTING ACROSS THE ROAD, SO I DEFINITELY AGREE AND I SUPPORT.
>> THANK YOU. >> I DON'T SEE ANY OBJECTIONS
AT ALL. >> MAYOR, I'M EXPERIENCED AT TAKING AND WHEN I TOOK OFFICE, THEY BOTH LOOKED LIKE FULLTILT ROAD AND TWO LANES AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY. VERY LITTLE TAXPAYER MONEY WENT INTO IMPROVING BOTH OF THOSE STATEMENTS AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STRETCH THIS OUT AND MAYBE MAKE THOSE RES ON THOSE STREET'S BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND HELP US IMPROVE AESTHETICALLY WHEN YOU DRIVE INTO OUR CITY.
IS ONE OF OUR FRONT DOORS. >> ANY TIME WE ARE LOOKING TO DO SOME TYPE OF IMPROVEMENT, WE HAVE A BLUEPRINT OF WHAT A SUCCESSFUL, SO THERE'S NO REASON WE CAN'T USE THAT BLUEPRINT DOWN THERE AND REPLICATE AND DO THE SAME THINGS
>> KIND OF THE SAME WAY. HAS THAT BEEN LOOKED INTO AS TO ALL OF THE GRAVEL BUILDUP AND EVERYTHING DOWN THERE?
>> I KNOW HE'S LY WORKING WITH JOHN ON THAT. I DON'T HAVE THE UPDATED DETAILS, BUT I KNOW IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL
SHARED CONCERN ABOUT. >> THAT IS RIGHT THERE WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING IN, AS WELL. IT IS JUSTA BIG EYESORE.
>> YOU ARE OKAY. >> REMEMBER WALKING DOOR-TO-DOOR
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WITH ME ONE AFTERNOON? >> I BELIEVE IT WAS IN NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE WAS A HOUSE THAT HAD BEEN EMPTY R 20
YEARS. >> RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. THE HOUSE WAS LITERALLY FALLING DOWN AND PACKED FULL OF JUNK.
>> IT WAS BASICALLY A STORAGE FACILITY FOR SOMEBODY FOR 20
YEARS. >> YOU AND I HAVE ONE CONVERSATION AND WE FILED PAPERWORK. OVERNIGHT, THE HOUSE WAS TORN DOWN. COULD YOU IMAGINE LIVING NEXT TOTHAT?
>> NO. THAT WOULD BE VERY FRUSTRATING.
>> I SAID POLICY AND I DON'T ADMINISTRATE IT. IF I ADMINISTRATE IT, I WOULDN'T TOLERATE THAT HAS BEEN PUT ON THE SITE. ADAM, I WOULD HAVE ABOUND THERE WITH TREES ON IT, LIKE WHAT SEPARATE THE KROGER AQUATIC CENTER AROUND THE WALKING PATH. I WOULD TAKE THAT PROPERTY AND ASSESS THAT PROPERTY. SOMEBODY WOULD THINK ABOUT PULLING THAT OUT. NEXT, HERE'S A CASE STUDY THAT WE LOOK AT. THIS IS BEFORE YOU. WE ONLY GOT TO THE TRUTH BECAUSE OF YOU. HOW MANY YEARS, JEFF, DID YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT THEM HAVING OUTDOOR STUFF? HOW MANY S WERE YOU TOLD BY STAFF THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THAT? WE'RE ALMOST DONE. THEY ARE GOING TO CLEAN THAT UP FOR US TO FIND OUT BY JOHN THAT THEY ARE NOT RESTRICTED. IT WAS ALLOWED. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CASE ST AND I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THOSE FILES AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO INFLUENCED US TO PASS THAT, BECAUSE THERE HAS NOT BEEN A COUNSEL LIKE THAT IN 40 YEARS THAT WOULD ALLOW IT TO HAVE DONE THAT WITH THE PROPERTY.
>> WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE CONVERSATION A FEW MINUTES AGO.
WE HAD A CITY MANAGER WHO IS ALSO LIAISON AND APPROVED THAT VARIANCE AND NEVER DID COME BEFORE COUNSEL. THAT IS THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I BELIEVE THERE IS A CASE COMING UP THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON MAYBE TOMORROW NIGHT WHERE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM IS NOW ASKING TO DO THE SAME THING.
I CAME UP NOT TOO LONG AGO AND YOU CAN SEE AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SUPPLY ALREADY HAS IT OUT IN THE PARKING LOT AND NOW THEY ARE ASKED THE SAME TYPE. IT HAS TO STOP. I AM SO FRUSTRATED DRIVING BY AND IT MAKES ME WANT TO PULL MY HAIR OUT.
>> LET'S JUST DREAM FOR A MINUTE. YOU ON 75 AND COMING TO TAKE THE EXIT. YOU ARE COMING UP AND GOING UPTHE ROAD AND YOU PASS THE LLE AND PASS A COMPANY THAT I EAR -- HAD A BUSTED UP ROCK? IS THAT WHAT THEY DO FOR LIVING? TO DRIVE UP AND SEE RURAL KING, THAN IF YOU WERE TO TURN RIGHT AND GO SOUTH, THEN YOU WOULD SEE THE TALL. HERE IS WHAT YOU DO. HE WOULD KEEP DRIVING, MAKE A RIGHT AND GET BACK ON 75 AS FAST AS YOU CAN. THAT IS JUST ONE LITTLE TRIP, VISITING OUR CITY.
>> I THINK ALL THE WAY AROUND, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT ENTRANCES IN THE CITY, THERE IS DEFINITELY WORK TO BE DONE. 100%
AND WOULDN'T DISAGREE. >> WHATEVER IT TAKES AND 43,000 PEOPLE TO MAKE THAT AESTHETICALLY LOOK BETTER AND I WOULD DO A CASE STUDY RESEARCH AND FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED IF YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. I WOULD SEE IF WHAT HAPPENED
EVEN IS LEGAL. >> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO REVIEWING THAT ZONING POLICY FOR WHAT'S GOING
ON? >> CLEARLY, THAT IS TIME AND EFFORT SPENT BY THE CITY ATTORNEY, SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING COUNSEL IF THERE'S ANY OBJECTIONS TO SPENDING? IF HE CAN LEGALLY BE OVERTURNED, I WOULD BE 1000%. IT IS.
>> IT'S AN EYESORE. IT'S AN EYESORE. CALL IT WHAT IT IS.
IT'S AN EYESORE. IT'S A FOR PROFIT EYESORE. AND OUR TOWN HAS
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>> KEN JOHN TALK TO THEM AND SEE IF THEY CAN PUT IT ON THE SIDE
WHERE IT WAS AT THAT TIME? >> TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE HAVE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM. THEY DON'T CARE.
>> I HAVE AN IDEA. IT WOULD BE SOUTH OF THE BUILDING THAT CURRENTLY STANDS AND ADD ON TO IT. BUILD A STORE ABOUT THAT SIZE AND TAKE ALL THE STUFF THAT IS OUTSIDE AND PUT IT INSIDE.
THAT WOULD BE A THOUGHT. >> THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
>> THEY TAKE MONEY. THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT WO DOWN. I WOULD WELCOME SOMEONE TO COME INTO CITY COUNCIL AND DESCRIBED HOW I TALKED ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS IN THIS FASHION. IT'S
AN EYESORE. >> I'M JUMPING ON THE BANDWAGON
WITH YOU. >> WELL BEFORE AND SOME PEOPLE CURRENTLY ON COUNSEL, ONCE WE GET TO THE TYPE OF ZONING VARIANCES OR ONCE WE GET TO THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS, THE ONLY THING THAT COUNSEL AS YOU KNOW NOW IS ON ZONING APPROVALS. WHEN ZONING IS REQUIRED TO BE CHANGED. THAT IS WHEN SOMETHING FROM ZONI PERSPECTIVE COMES THROUGH COUNSEL AND WE VOTE ON. BEYOND THAT AND DEALING WITH DETAILED FILAMENT PLANS, ZONING VARIANCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT DECISION IS MADE THERE AND FINDS ITS WAY TO US. IT WASN'T UNTIL AFTER THAT APPROVAL THAT HAPPENED IN OUR PLANNING COMMISSION LIAISON THAT THAT WAS APPROVED AND THOSE THINGS AREN'T HAPPENING THAT WE EVEN KNOW THAT IT HAPPENED. UNLESSWE WERE AT THE COMMISSION MEETING TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON AND AT THAT TIME, THEN WE HAD IN RETROSPECTIVE, WE CAN SEE IF IT'S GOOD OR BAD. AT ONE POINT IN TIME, WE WERE CONCERNED WITH A LOT OF COUNCILMEMBERS SHOWING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS, BECAUSE OF UNDUE INFLUENCE TO PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS WHEN IT WAS COMING TIME FOR DECISIONS TO BE MADE. WE KIND OF MADE IT A POINT TO MAKE THAT KIND OF AN INDEPENDENT OR MORE INDEPENDENT BODY. IN RETROSPECT, I WISH WE COULD GO BACK AND CHANGE THAT AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE CHRIS LOOK AT THAT. SEE IF WE CAN PUT IT BACK IN.
>> HERE IS WHAT BOTHERS ME. YOU TELL ME THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS A RECOMMENDING BODY.
>> FROM A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST? IN THE WALLS OF SUCH THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE BODY THAT THE CITIZENS VOTE FOR, COUNSEL SITS HERE AND EXPLAINS TO THE TAXPAYERS, I'M SORRY, WE
DIDN'T CREATE THAT EYESORE. >> IT SEEMS --. IT SEEMS BACKWARDS. A LOT OF THINGS WE NEED TO BE CHANGED IN TERMS OF THE ROLES AND WHAT WE SEE AFTER PLANNING COMMISSION TAKES A VOTE OR BEFORE THEY TAKE A VOTE, IT IS NOTHING BUT A RECOMMENDATION.
AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN THE MAYOR, WHENEVER DETAILED. IT HAS
JUST BEEN ZONING APPROVAL. >> IT'S AN EYESORE. HOW DID THAT HAPPEN. HOWEVER THAT HAPPENED, IT DOESN'T NEED TO
CHANGE. >> IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN HELP
US OUT WITH? >> A COUPLE OF THINGS. YOU ARE ALREADY DOING A ZONING CODE AND WRITING THINGS THAT WOULD BE DISCUSSED IN THAT PROCESS. THERE ARE PROS AND CONS TO BOTH IN THE COMMUNITIES AND EXERCISING POWERS DIFFERENTLY. IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN A REZONING, WHICH IS A LEGISLATIVE ACT THAT HAS TO COME TO COUNCIL VERSUS WHAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED TO BE THERE CAUSE I DO JUST ROLL, WHICH IS TYPICALLY WHATEVER VARIANCES. MOST COMMUNITIES ALLOW IT TO STAND ALONE AND THE CITY AS A PARTY AND YOU N'T SEE IT VERY OFTEN, BUT THE CITY COULD ACTUALLY SIT WITH ZONE BZA. I THIT REALLY COMES DOWN TO A MATTER OF -- POLICY AND CONTROL.
THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.
MOST OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT I REPRESENTED OVER THE YEARS, VARIANCES DO NOT GO TO COUNCIL, BUT PSYCHIC DEVELOPMENT PLANS TYPICALLY DO, BECAUSE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WANT CONTROL
OF THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. >> I WILL JUST USE THE TERM
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UNWIND THE CLOCK. IS THERE A WAY TO DO THAT LEGALLY WITHIN OUR CODE FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE? I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SEE IT. I WILL JUST -- IF WE ARE HAVING CONVERSATION FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW IF EVEN THOUGH A PIECE OF PROPERTY IS ZONED CONDITIONALLY FOR A BUSINESS TO COME IN, IS THERE A WAY THAT COUNCIL COULD SEE THAT ALSO INSTEAD OF ONE DAY DRIVING DOWN THE STREET AND REALIZING THAT THERE IS A NEW BUSINESS THAT WE'VE GOT ALREADY JUST BECAUSE THE PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY WAS ZONED FOR WHAT THEY USE IT FOR AND WE HAD NO IDEA AGAIN -- IF WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF OUR EXISTING OPEN PROPERTY AND TRIED TO PICK AND CHOOSE DIFFERENT ZONING OR WHATEVER, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE? THAT WOULD BE A MASSIVE UNDERTAKE.>> YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL HOW YOU SAY PICK AND CHOOSE. IT IS CALLED SPOT ZONING AND IT'S NOT FAVORED. THE TERM IS FREQUENTLY MISUSED, BUT WHEN YOU START USING PICK AND CHOOSE, IT IMPLIES A FORM OF THAT. THE ANSWER IS YES AND YOU ARE GOING ORGANICALLY NOW THROUGH A ZONING CODE FOR ONE OF THOSE REASONS COME UP BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE ISSUES NOW, BECAUSE YOU WILL NEED TO ADDRESS THEM IN THE ZONING CODE ANYWAY. IF WE CAN'T CHANGE WHAT EXISTS TODAY, WE CAN ADOPT A NEW ZONING CODE AND YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT TODAY, BUT NONCONFORMING USE AT SOME POINT WILL TYPICALLY GO
AWAY. >> JOHN RUSSELL, WHO IS THE
PRESIDENT OF THE COALITION? >> JEFF.
>> DID YOU KNOW JEFF WHEN HE WAS THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER?
>> I'M AWARE THAT HE HAS HAD VARIOUS OFFICIAL FUNCTIONS IN
HIS CAREER. >> HE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL TENURE. THERE IS A SHOPPING CENTER KNOWN AS HILLS AND DELLS THAT YOU CAN'T TELL WHETHER THERE, BECAUSE IT WAS DETERMINED BECAUSE THE EFFORT APPLIED TO BE CONDEMNED OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE THEY HAVE DONE SO LITTLE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE FOR SO MANY
YEARS. >> I LIVE FAIRLY CLOSE TO THERE WHEN I WAS DURING THAT TIME AND BECAME A PROPERTY. THEY REALLY DEVELOPED AND PUT IN FEES WITH THE WHOLE BUSINESS PARK BACK
THERE. >> JEFF DID THAT. I CHANGED MY EYESORE TO. YOU CAN SHUT WN BUSINESSES IF YOU GO THROUGH THE RIGHT PROCESS THAT ARE BLINDED.
>> IT'S POSSIBLE IN AN AREA AND THE TERMINOLOGY BECOMES -- THE CONCEPT IS VALID. YES, I WOULD USE DIFFERENT WORDS. YES.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT A PUD IN OUR CITY. A PUD COMMERCIALLY COULD DEPICT LANDSCAPING AND IT COULD EVEN DESCRIBE THE SPECIES.
IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT STUPID I DON'T KNOW THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE TREE ORDINANCE, BUT I THINK YOU HAVE A TREE ORDINANCE, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE CITY
ISSUES, SO YES. >> IF YOU HAD A SHOPPING CENTER IN TOWN. WE REMEMBER JEFFRIES? MEHAT FRUSTRATED JEFFRIES? IF YOU HAD A SHOPPING CENTER THAT WAS 20 YEARS OLD, JUST BECAUSE 20 YEARS OLD, DOES IT STILL EXIST? THAT'S A QUESTION
FOR CHRIS. >> THAT IT WAS RHETORICAL. THE
ANSWER IS YES. >> THIS IS RHETORICAL. WHY WOULD THE CITY LET SHOPPING CENTER DIG UP ALL LANDSCAPING THROUGH THE WHOLE SHOPPING CENTER? AND ODOM TALKING ABOUT? TORE IT ALL UP.
THEN, YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY. SMALL PARKING LOT AND SO ON. ALL I KNOW ABOUT THAT IS WHAT I TALKED TO JIM JEFFRIES ABOUT ON PLANNING COMMISSION AND HE COULDN'T GET ANYWHERE. THAT WAS PRIOR TO JOHN. THESE THINGS NEED TO BE CORRECTED AND THE REASON I'M TAKING OPPORTUNITY TODAY IS THE WORK YOU DESCRIBED THAT WILL BE GOING ON OR IS GOING ON. I WOULD IN NO WAY PUT THE BRAKES ON ANYTHING, BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING AT SOMETHING.
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THAT IS ALMOST FRENCH FOR WE CAN EXTEND THIS OUT TWO MORE YEARS.BUT AS WERE TIMBERS WAS. THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED. IF IT ISN'T, AND NEEDS TO BE SCREENED. THAT'S MY OPINION.
SORRY TO THROW SO MUCH OUT ON THE TABLE, BUT IT ALL SURFACED BUT LITTLE YORK UP T AND I TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT I DIDN'T GIVE YOU THE TIME OR ATTENTION I THINK YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY REMEMBER IT BEING THAT BAD, BUT I FOCUSED ON IT. IT IS NOT THAT. IT IS BLIGHTED.
>> WAS IT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO? IS IT GOING TO BE MEDICAL FACILITY? HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE APPROVED? THEY HAVE ALL OF THAT STUFF IN THE PARKING LOT AT THAT TIME?
>> THEY WERE GOING TO SELL THE PROPERTY. THE MEDICAL FACILITY ACTUALLY PROFESSED THE PROPERTY THE PROPERTY NEVER TRANSFERRED, SO THEY MAINTAINED OWNERSHIP OF THAT.
>> PARCEL THAT PAYS OUT THE AGREEMENT WAS THAT THEY WOULD MOVE THE BOUNDARY LINE WHERE OUTDOOR CENTERS AND I SPOKE TO AARON ABOUT THAT AND ERIN SAID THAT THEY ARE IN ROUGH NFORMANCE AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW TO THE NEW PROPERTY LINE. IN THE CITY APPROVED THE APPLICATION WE DIDN'T APPROVE AND STICK WHATEVER YOU WANT IN THE PARKING LOT HOWEVER IT WANTS TO LOOK. WE APPROVED OUTDOOR SALES IN THAT AREA. I CAN SPEAK TO THIS, BECAUSE I GO TO RURAL KINGS AND I HAVE BEEN TO THE ONE WHERE I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S NOT NEARLY AS BIG A PYRE PILE OF CRAP AS WE SEE IN THE PARKINLOT. WE GET APPROVAL FOR OUTDOOR SALES AREA. WE DIDN'T GIVE APPROVAL OR A FENCE BUILT OF SKIDS SURROUNDING ALL THE JUNK THEY HAVE OUT THERE. IN THE OUR CITY STAFF HAS GONE TO RURAL KING AND BASICALLY SAID WE WILL CITE YOU THIS INSIGHT YOU FOR THAT.
AND, WE GET A TEMPORARY CLEANUP AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF IT. PART OF THOSE EFFORTS INCLUDES IF YOU DROVE BY RURAL KING FROM TIME TO TIME, YOU WILL SEE STUFF THAT IS TOO CLOSE IN VIOLATION AND TOTALLY BLOCKING THE SIDEWALKS IS A VIOLATION AND WE SEND ZONING BACK OUT THERE AND I'M SURE JOHN HAS SENT THEM OUT THERE SEVERAL TIMES SINCE HE'S BEEN IN OFFICE. WE SENT HIM OUT THERE AND CLEAN IT UP AND DRIVE BY RURAL KING AND WE'VE GOT FENCES MADE OUT OF PALLETS STACKED UP AND WHOLE PALLETS STACKED UP AT THE END AND THE EVER-CHANGING CONCRETE BLOCK'S. WHILE IT'S TRUE THAT WE DID GIVE THEM PERMISSION FOR OUTDOOR SALES AS WE DO SOME OTHERS, LOWE'S HAS PERMISSION FOR OUTDOOR SALES IF YOU NOTICE THE TRAILERS AND SHEDS THAT THEY HAVE. PERMISSIFOR THAT. KROGER WAS GRANTED PERMISSION FOR THE OUTSIDE SALES AND THAT IS WHERE YOU SEE THE PALLETS OF MULCH OR SALT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. OUTDOOR SALES S ONE THING. PILING JUNK IN YOUR PARKING LOT IS ANOTHER, SO I AGREE WITHYOU.
>> 70% OF YOUR STORE OUT TO THE PARKING LOT IS NOT
>> ABSOLUTELY. YOU KNOW WE START TALKING PLANNING, I COULD TALK ALL NIGHT, BUT I WILL. I PROMISE. I UP WITH OUR PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER AND MY ISSUE IS THAT THE TRUCK WAS PULLING OUT FROM BOTH OPERATIONS ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF TAYLORSVILLE. FOR LACK OF BETTER TERM, LITTERING THE ROAD. AT TIMES, YOU GO THROUGH THERE AND IT LOOKS LIKE A DIRT ROAD. THEY HAVE DUG SO MUCH DIRT, GRAVEL AND ONCE AGAIN, WE WILL SEND ZONING OUT. ONCE WE DO, IT GETS CLEANED UP FOR A MONTH OR TWO KEY, THEN SLOWLY BUT SURELY GETS BACK TO EXACT WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT NOW, WHICH IS A TOTAL MESS ON THE ROAD AND SOMETHING WE SHOULDN'T PERMIT. MY THIRD THING IS THAT I JUST SPOKE TO AARON RECENTLY ABOUT THE PROPERTY AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT
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WITHOUT GOING INTO DETAIL, IT'S MORE INVOLVED THAN JUST THE LOOK OF IT. THEY HAVE ALLOWED ASPHALT TO BE DUMPED. ASPHALT IS GROUNDWATER CONTAMINANT WITHIN THE PERIMETESO BECAUSE OF THAT, HAS ASSURED ME THAT THEY ARE WORKING WITH THE OHIO EPA AND AS SOON AS SOME SORT OF RESOLUTION COMES OUT, WE WILL SEE SOME ACTION. AGAIN, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID AND I WILL FURTHER JUST ONE THING. WE JUST AUTHORIZED A BRAND-NEW WELL ON THE PROPERTY PURCHASED UNFOLDS TAYLORSVILLE. WHEN WE AUTHORIZE THE WELL, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE WERE CONSTRAINED OF WHERE TO PUT THE WELL, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LANDFILL, WHICH IS WHAT THE EPA CALLS. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S CLEAN OR ROCK OR WHATEVER YOU ARE DOING. WE HAVE A LANDFILL. BECAUSE OF THAT, WE COULDN'T LOCATE THE WELL WHERE WE WANTED TO. IF YOU REMEMBER THE PRESENTATION, WHICH ARE LOCATED ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TO GET AWAY FROM THE ALREADY DESIGNATED LANDFILL THAT WE'VE GOT GOING, SO THESE ISSUES ARE JUST AESTHETIC. THERE ARE ALSO ISSUES -- I KNOW ZO IS DOING THEIR BEST TO MONITOR WHAT IS GOING IN THERE. YOU MENTIONED MONITORING WELLS AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ALSO, ARE WE CHECKING OFF ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING HAPPENING DOWN THERE AT THE LANDFILLS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON AS WE JUST FOUND OUT AT THE TALL TIMBERS SITE? WHAT IS BEING DUMPED IN THERE? THE CITY HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO BE MONITORING THAT STUFF.>> I WILL GO BACK TO THE RURAL KING SITUATION. IS THIS JUST A MANAGEMENT AT OUR LOCAL RURAL KING MAKING IT LIKE THAT? HAVE WE TALKED TO CORPORATE? OBVIOUSLY IF IT LOOKS GOOD OR OTHER AREAS LOOK GOOD, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A LOCAL MANAGEMENT ISSUE MORE SO THAN A CORPORATE ISSUE. HAS ANYONE REACHED OUT TO
CORPORATE? >> AT THIS POINT, PROBABLY NOT.
THAT CAN BE QUICKLY CHANGED. MARK?
>> WE HAVE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE PERCHING COMMERCIALLY AND I BET THEY DO, CHRIS. DOES IT INCLUDE THAT THE BUSINESS NEEDS TO KEEP THE BUILDING PAINTED?
>> THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE IS EQUALLY APPLICABLE TO COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
>> A FOR PROFIT BUSINESS THAT LOOKS LIKE A BUSINESS IN HEEBNER HEIGHTS IS JUST NOT SATISFACTORY. WE ARE SO CLOSE TO TURNING A CORNER WITH IMPROVEMENTS LIKE MIKE HAS MADE.
THESE SITUATIONS WE TALKED ABOUT, IT SHOULD BE ON THE BACK OF THE TAXPAYERS. I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TAYLORSVILLE GOING INTO THE ROAD SITUATION AFTER SCOTT. IF THEY ARE BRINGING STUFF FROM THE PARKING LOTS INTO THE ROAD, DO WE HAVE ANY REGULATIONS ON WHAT THE SURFACE THAT THE BUSINESS NEEDS TO BE MADE OUT OF? I WOULDN'T THINK SO. THAT JUST DOESN'T
SOUND RIGHT. >> I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CODE. YOU SEE IT FREQUENTLY IN PLACES. I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF, IS IT CREATING A HAZARDOUS CONDITION? THAT'S WHAT THE FOCUS IS. WE CAN LOOK AT THE PROPERTY AND SEE IF THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR SOME TYPE OF RIGHT-OF-WAY SERVICE.
>> JOHN RUSSELL, WHEN THE COMPANY WAS BUILDING THE CONDOS, THEY WOULD BE OUT THERE EVERY DAY CLEANING THE STREET. OR THEY REQUIRED TO DO THAT? ARE THEY JUST NICE?
>> I JUST KNOW KNOW, BUT I WILL FIND OUT FOR YOU.
>> THEY ARE REQUIRED? >> FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN ARE BUILDING THE AUTHENTIC APARTMENTS, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS THAT THEY CAN'T CREATE EXCESSIVE DUST, SO EVEN THE ONCE UPON EXECUTIVE, THEY ARE BRINGING WATER TRUCKS WHEN
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IT'S DRY LIKE THIS, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T CREATE EXCESSIVE DUST. IF THEY CARRY IT DOWN TO THE ROAD, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO GET THE STREET CLEAN BACKUP AND WE KNOW THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE . WE HAVE DIRECTED THOSE TWO GRAVEL DIRT LANDFILL OPERATIONS FROM TIME TO TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE AND DIRECTED THEM TO GO DOWN AND CLEANED IT UP. THEY DO FOR A PERIOD OF THREE MONTHS AND IT STARTS LOOKING THE SAME.>> YOU HAVE SOME BUSINESSES IN THE AREA I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT ARE VERY PROFESSIONALLY KEPT. I THINK ONE OF THEM WE DO BUSINESS WITH FROM TIME TO ME. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY I'M SURE, BUT IF YOU ARE NOT PAYING FOR ASPHALT OR PLAN TO CLEAN THE ROADS UP, THEN IT'S A LOT HIGHER. THAT'S NO CONCERN
>> WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT COUNCIL HAS NOT OBJECTED TO. I THINK JOHN HAS A CLEAR SENSE OF PURPOSE FOR THE PROPERTIES AND JOHN CAN UPDATE US OR HE COULD PUT THE ITEM BACK ON THE AGENDA AND TALK ABOUT IT ONCE JOHN HAS AN UPDATE. WE CAN GET TO THAT POINT WHERE DECISIONS CAN BE MADE ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. CERTAINLY AS WE ARE LOOKING AT REDOING ZONING CODE, HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS DON'T HAPPEN AGAIN. KEEP US FROM GETTING BACK IN THAT SITUATION. ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.