[ AGENDA CITY PLANNING COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road June 10, 2025 6:00 P.M. ]
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GO.I SHALL CALL THE MEETING THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. JOHNSON? HERE.
I HAVE NO OPENING REMARKS AS ANYONE ELSE ON THE DIOCESE IN HEARING.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO CITIZENS' COMMENTS.
THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR ANY CITIZENS' COMMENTS NOT PERTAINING TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
NEXT WILL BE SWEARING OF WITNESSES.
I ANNOUNCE THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RULES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ANYONE WHO MAY WISH TO SPEAK OR GIVE TESTIMONY REGARDING THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN.
SO I ASK EVERYONE TO STAND, RAISE THEIR RIGHT HAND AND RESPOND.
TO THE FOLLOWING OATH, DO YOU HEREBY SWEAR OR AFFIRM ON THE THREAT OF PERJURY TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? I DO.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK? UH, IF IT COMES TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE STATE THEIR NAME AND SIGN IN ON THE SIGN IN SHEET.
PROVIDED WE HAVE NO APP PENDING BUSINESS, UH, ITEMS UNDER NEW BUSINESS OR FIRST ITEM WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING SUSTAINABLE OHIO PUBLIC ENERGY COUNCIL.
UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, WE ARE CHANGING OUR ENERGY AGGREGATOR.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN WITH ENERGY ALLIANCE FOR NEARLY A DECADE.
UH, OUR CONTRACT ENDS THIS YEAR.
UH, AND SO STAFF, UH, LOOKED AT OTHER PROVIDERS OUT THERE.
UH, WE DETERMINED THAT SO OPEC WAS THE BEST VALUE, UM, FOR THE COMMUNITY, UH, AND ALSO THE ORGANIZATION.
UH, SO WE, THIS IS ONE OF TWO REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARINGS.
UM, I WAS GO ADDING THIS TO THE END OF THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
UM, BUT OUR MAIN APPLICANT IS STUCK IN TRAFFIC, UH, AND WON'T GET HERE TILL ABOUT 6 25.
SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE THIS PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, UP JUST TO, TO SATISFY THE OHIO REVISED CODE REQUIREMENTS, UH, TO GIVE OUR APPLICANT TIME TO GET HERE.
UH, SO THIS IS PHIL LELA, UH, WITH, UH, SOAK.
YEAH, MY APOLOGIES THAT YOU HAVE TO SIT THROUGH
BUT, UM,
I'M SOAKS DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND GENERAL COUNSEL.
UM, I SAY THAT JOKINGLY ABOUT THIS DOCUMENT 'CAUSE IT IS NOT THE MOST EXCITING DOCUMENT IN THE WORLD, BUT WE DO HAVE TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON IT.
BUT I'LL WANNA WALK YOU ALL THROUGH EACH STEP OF THAT DOCUMENT.
SO, UH, THE DOCUMENT I'M REFERENCING, GO BACK.
ONE IS THE ELECTRIC PLAN OF OPERATION GOVERNANCE.
UH, AND IT'S RELATED TO, AS MR. RELL REFERENCED, THE, UM, ELECTRIC AGGREGATION PROGRAM.
EACH PROGRAM IS REQUIRED TO ADOPT A PLAN WHEN THEY START A PROGRAM.
AND, UH, SOPAC AS I'LL GO THROUGH THIS, HAS AN EXISTING PLAN THAT WE, UH, UTILIZE, UH, FOR ALL OF OUR MEMBER COMMUNITIES.
UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK HIGHLIGHTS ABOUT US BEFORE WE, WELL ACTUALLY JUST GET RIGHT INTO IT FOR YOU.
I'M NOT GONNA SPEND MUCH TIME ON THIS SLIDE, UM, SINCE YOU HAVE AN EXISTING ELECTRIC AGGREGATION PROGRAM, UM, I THINK FOLKS KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.
UM, BUT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF UNDERSTANDING, UH, AGGREGATION ALLOWS A COMMUNITY TO SET BASICALLY A NEW DEFAULT RATE FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES, UH, FOR THEIR COMMUNITY RESIDENTS AND SMALL BUSINESSES, UH, FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE ON THE STANDARD SERVICE SOFTWARE WITH THE LOCAL UTILITY.
SO THE PIECE OF THIS THREE STEP, UH, CHART, UH, THAT AGGREGATION REALLY IMPACTS IS THE FIRST PIECE THAT IS THE SUPPLY PORTION OF YOUR ELECTRIC BILL.
UM, SO WE'RE ABLE TO CHANGE, UM, UH, THE, THE RATE IS PART OF THAT BILL FOR THE SUPPLY, AND ALSO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ELECT TO HAVE RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCES, UH, WHICH PEC COMMUNITIES DO.
UM, THAT IS ALSO AN ELEMENT OF THIS TOO.
SO IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE MORE LOCAL CONTROL OVER THAT PIECE OF THE BILL.
UH, THE DELIVERY PIECE OF THE BILL.
THE SECOND PART IS, UM, REMAINS WITH THE LOCAL UTILITY.
SO, UH, THE MAINTENANCE OF THE WIRES, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THE LIGHTS STAY ON.
THAT SORT OF THING REMAINS WITH A ES OHIO HERE LOCALLY.
AND THEN THE LAST PIECE IS THE CUSTOMER.
THAT'S WHEN THE ELECTRICITY ACTUALLY REACHES THEM, UM, AND HOPEFULLY GETTING THEM, UH, MORE COMPETITIVE RATES AND, UM, 100% RENEWABLE ENERGY IN THIS CASE, AND A LITTLE MORE LOCAL CONTROL.
SO, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE TWO HEARINGS.
SECTION 49, 28 0.20 C OF THE OHIO REVISED CODE REQUIRES US TO HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE PLAN.
UH, AND AS MR. RELL MENTIONED, UH, THIS IS FOR THE FUTURE ELECTRIC AGGREGATION PLAN.
YOUR CURRENT EXISTING PROGRAM RUNS THROUGH
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SEPTEMBER.SO THIS WILL NOT PICK UP UNTIL OCTOBER WHEN THERE WILL BE A NEW RATE WITH THE NEW PROGRAM.
UM, SO TONIGHT'S THE FIRST OF THESE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, TOMORROW MORNING AT 10:00 AM IS THE SECOND ONE ADVANCE.
UM, AND AS PART OF THIS, UH, THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
THERE'S, UM, PUBLIC NOTICE THAT IS PUT OUT LEGAL NOTICE, UH, FOR THESE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
UM, SO A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT PEC OR SUSTAINABLE OHIO PUBLIC ENERGY COUNCIL.
UH, WE ARE A REGIONAL COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, UM, THAT OPERATES AS A SHARED ENERGY OFFICE.
WE'RE MADE UP OF, UM, COMMUNITIES AND POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
UH, WE ARE QUITE LITERALLY GOVERNED, UH, BY OUR MEMBERS, UH, WITH A GENERAL ASSEMBLY, WHICH EACH, UH, MEMBER OF.
SO OPEC HAS ONE REPRESENTATIVE ON THAT GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
AND THEN ON OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS MADE UP OF 15 SEATS.
FIVE, UH, LARGEST POPULATION, UH, COMMUNITIES, FIVE AT LARGE MEMBERS THAT ARE ELECTED, AND THEN FIVE REGIONS OF THE STATE.
CER HEIGHTS WILL HAVE AC SEAT ON THAT BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
UM, WE ARE FORMED AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE PRIVATE BROKER MODEL.
AND AS I STATED, WE ARE A REGIONAL COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.
WE'RE A SHARED ENERGY OFFICE, SO WE REALLY PROVIDE, UH, WHATEVER ENERGY SUSTAINABILITY SERVICES THAT OUR MEMBERS ARE LOOKING FOR AND HELP THEM THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
BUT WHAT, WHAT OUR MAIN PROGRAMS, UH, WE FOCUS ON ARE THESE ELECTRIC AGGREGATION PROGRAMS. AND AGAIN, I KIND OF REFERENCED THIS BRIEFLY, BUT, UH, WE HAVE COMMITMENT TO RENEWABLE ENERGY.
ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE 100% RENEWABLE ENERGY BY DEFAULT.
UH, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT AND ALSO SAVE OUR COMMUNITIES A LOT OF MONEY.
UH, PEC MEMBERSHIP IS UP TO 42 MEMBER COMMUNITIES.
UM, THIS NUMBER'S SET TO GROW HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS TOO, AS OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE GOING THROUGH THEIR PROCESS.
UM, BUT WHAT THAT AMOUNTS TO IS, UM, LARGE BULK BUYING POWER.
UM, WE NOW SERVE OVER 1.2 TERAWATT HOURS OF LOAD PER YEAR JUST ON THE ELECTRIC AGGREGATION PROGRAM SIDE.
UM, CITIES OF CLEVELAND, DAYTON, HANANA UP ARLINGTON, ATHENS TO NAME A FEW RIVERSIDE HERE LOCALLY AS WELL ARE SOME OF OUR MEMBERS.
AND THEN ALSO LOCALLY HERE, DAYTON METRO LIBRARY AND FIVE RIVERS METRO PARKS.
UM, OUR MISSION, I KIND OF REFERENCE THIS BRIEFLY, IS TO PROVIDE SIMPLE, VALUABLE AND RELIABLE PUBLIC ENERGY PROGRAMS TO OUR MEMBERS.
UM, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, EACH MEMBER.
UH, DIFFERENT MEMBERS HAVE DIFFERENT GOALS.
SO LIKE, UH, YOU ALL, WE ARE SUBJECT TO PUBLIC RECORDS, REQUESTS SUCH A LAWS AND AUDITED EVERY TWO YEARS.
SO WE, UM, BELIEVE VERY, UH, VERY STRONGLY IN TRANSPARENCY.
SO GETTING INTO THE ACTUAL ELECTRIC PLAN OF OPERATION AND GOVERNANCE, AS I MENTIONED, IT IS A RATHER BORING DOCUMENT.
IT'S ALSO, UM, IT HERE YOU GET IT HERE AT THE CITY BUILDING.
UM, BUT THIS PLAN IS SOMETHING THAT EACH COMMUNITY HAS TO ESTABLISH.
UH, WE HAVE AN EXISTING PLAN THAT ALL OF OUR MEMBERS USE, UH, FOR CONVENIENCE AND ALSO A CERTIFICATE WITH THE PUCO.
UM, PUCO IS PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION OF OHIO, AND THIS IS ON FILE WITH 'EM.
UM, SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PLAN.
UH, THE PLAN CONTAINS FOLLOWING STRUCTURE, UH, STRUCTURE, GOVERNANCE, OPERATIONS MANAGEMENT, FUNDING AND POLICIES, AND A LITTLE BIT MORE.
THIS IS A VERY CONDENSED VERSION.
UM, BUT IF YOU ARE HAVING TROUBLE FALLING ASLEEP ONE NIGHT, YOU COULD READ THE FULL VERSION.
UM, BUT THE DESCRIPTION OF GOALS, UH, FOR THE PROGRAM PARTICIPATION IS INDEED VOLUNTARY.
UH, INDIVIDUAL CUSTOMERS WILL BE NOTIFIED OF THEIR OCCLUSION.
SO IT IS AN OPTOUT PROGRAM, SO EVERYONE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY THOUGH TO DECLINE THE SERVICE.
UM, IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE ELIGIBLE, UH, RESIDENTS OR SMALL BUSINESSES, YOU WILL ACTUALLY GET WHAT'S CALLED AN OPT OUT LETTER IN THE MAIL.
UH, WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN OPT OUT OF IT.
THERE'S A QR CODE THAT YOU CAN SCAN IT, GO TO THE WEBSITE, OPT OUT IF YOU SAY, THIS PROGRAM'S NOT FOR ME.
UM, AND THERE'S ALSO A ONE 800 NUMBER THAT GOES TO OUR CALL CENTER THAT IS, UH, AP ENERGY'S CALL CENTER, UM, BASED IN COLUMBUS, OHIO.
UM, SO THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO OPT OUT OR GET YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
AND THEN THE THIRD WAY IS YOU CAN FILL IT OUT AND MAIL IT BACK IN.
UM, BUT AGAIN, UH, ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE PROGRAM IS TO LEVERAGE THIS BULK BUYING POWER OF A POOL OF CUSTOMERS.
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SAY IT'S LIKE COSTCO AND SAM'S CLUB FOR ENERGY, UM, BUYING IN BULK.UM, OTHER PARTS OF THE GOAL IS TO SECURE SUSTAINABLE ENERGY SOURCES AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE QUALITY AND RELIABLE CUSTOMER SERVICE.
UM, AND LASTLY, TO ADVANCE ECONOMIC AND ENERGY DEVELOPMENT GOALS.
UH, SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PRICE AND PROGRAM STABILITY.
UM, IT, IT SHOULD GO WITHOUT SAYING, BUT WE ALWAYS WANNA MAKE SURE TO STATE IT THAT SOPAC AND A EP ENERGY, WHICH IS SOFA'S EXCLUSIVE SUPPLIER FOR OUR ELECTRIC AGGREGATION PROGRAMS, WE HAVE NEVER TERMINATED, CANCELED, OR SUSPENDED AN AGGREGATION PROGRAM PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION OF ENGAGEMENT OR EXPIRATION OF THE FULL TERM.
UM, WE TYPICALLY UTILIZE FIXED TERM PRICING FOR 12 TO THIRD, OR I'M SORRY, ONE TO THREE YEARS.
UM, AND, UH, THAT IS, THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS WITH THE, UH, PUCO.
UM, BUT LATELY WE'VE BEEN TELLING FOLKS THAT THE ONE YEAR SHORTER, UH, MORE RESPONSIVE TO THE ENERGY MARKETS THAT HAVE BEEN VERY VOLATILE, IS A WISE WAY TO GO.
UM, ALSO JUST A LITTLE BIT, UH, OF SOMETHING ELSE I WANNA MENTION IN THIS PIECE.
UM, COMMUNITIES CAN ALSO ELECT TO GO A LITTLE BIT SHORTER TO SYNC UP WITH THE REST OF OUR COMMUNITIES BUNDLE JUST BASED ON THE TIMING.
SO THEORETICALLY, COOPER HEIGHTS COULD DECIDE SINCE YOU'RE STARTING IN OCTOBER, YOU COULDN'T LIKE LOCK A RATE TO THEN CATCH UP WITH THE REST OF THE BUNDLE OF COMMUNITIES IN JUNE SO THAT YOU'D BE SYNCED UP WITH DAYTON AND RIVERSIDE AND THOSE LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO IS WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE COMMUNITY TO LOOK AT BOTH PRICES AND LOOK AT WHAT THE MARKETS ARE DOING AT THAT TIME, AND JUST DECIDE WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE AT THAT MOMENT.
UM, WE DO WATCH THE ENERGY MARKETS VERY CLOSELY.
UH, WE GET UPDATED DAILY PRICING FROM A EP ENERGY, UM, AND THAT ALLOWS US TO BE NIMBLE AND MOVE VERY QUICKLY IN, UH, IN ENERGY MARKET WITH, UM, UH, A COMMODITY THAT HAS BEEN VERY VOLATILE OF LAKE.
UM, AND AGAIN, WE, WE ALSO PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE LOCAL UTILITIES.
SO WE PAY, UH, VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO A'S AUCTIONS TO SEE WHAT THEIR RATE IS GOING TO BE AND, UH, MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE MOST COMPETITIVE RATES.
UM, ONE THING I'LL MENTION AS PART OF THAT, THE A S OHIO CURRENT STANDARD SERVICE OFFER IS 9.45 CENTS PER KILOWATT HOUR.
SO THOSE RATES HAVE GONE UP QUITE A BIT HERE, STARTING IN JUNE.
UM, THAT RATE IS LOCKED UNTIL MAY 31ST OF, UM, 2026.
SO, UM, THAT WE KNOW WHAT THAT RATE'S GOING TO BE.
SO THAT IS REALLY OUR TARGET WHEN WE'RE GOING INTO OCTO OR BEFORE OCTOBER, BUT BEFORE THAT OCTOBER.
PRICING, UM, THE PRICE TO COMPARE THE PRICE WE WANT TO GET BELOW.
SO MORE ABOUT THE ACTUAL PROGRAM PROCESS AND WHO CAN ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE.
UM, IT IS MEANT FOR RESIDENTIAL AND SMALL COMMERCIAL ELECTRICITY ACCOUNTS.
SMALL COMMERCIAL IS DEFINED AS UNDER 700,000 KILOWATT HOURS PER YEAR.
UM, BUT OPT OUT ELECTRIC AGGREGATION BY STATUTE AND BY REGULATIONS EXCLUDES THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES.
PIP CUSTOMERS, ANYONE WHO HAS GONE OUT ON APPLES TO APPLES AND SHOCKED AND HAS A THIRD PARTY CONTRACT.
UM, HOWEVER, THOSE FOLKS, IF THEY CHOOSE, THEY CAN COME INTO THE PROGRAM, BUT THEY'RE JUST NOT AUTOMATICALLY PUT INTO THE PROGRAM AS PART OF THE INITIAL START.
UM, LARGE INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMERS AND ANYONE WHO CHOOSE TO STOP OUT OF THE PROGRAM, UM, CAN DO SO.
UM, ANOTHER PART OF THAT I WANT TO MENTION IS WE DO NOT CHARGE EARLY TERMINATION FEES NO MATTER WHEN YOU LEAVE THE PROGRAM.
UM, YOU ALSO CAN COME BACK INTO THE PROGRAM ANYTIME YOU WANT FOR NO FEES.
UM, AND FRANKLY, THERE'S NOT REALLY A LIMIT OF HOW MANY TIMES YOU WANT TO GO IN AND OUT.
IT'S REALLY JUST BASED ON WHEN YOU GO IN OR OUT OF THE PROGRAM ON THE METER READ CYCLES.
SO, UM, I MENTIONED THIS A LITTLE BIT ALREADY AS WELL.
UM, THIS IS RATHER REPETITIVE.
UM, BUT THE OPTOUT NOTICE LETTER, UM, WILL COME TO FOLKS IN THE MAIL.
THEY WILL HAVE 21 DAYS IN THAT INITIAL OPTOUT PERIOD TO DECIDE IF THEY WANNA STAY IN THE PROGRAM OR LEAVE.
UM, THEY CAN LEAVE THE PROGRAM AT ANY TIME, BUT IF YOU DON'T OPT OUT IN THAT FIRST 21 DAY WINDOW, YOU WOULD BE IN THE PROGRAM FOR ONE MONTH AT A MINIMUM.
UM, BECAUSE OF THE METER READS, LET'S SAY YOU OPTED OUT ON DAY 22, THERE'S STILL NO FEES, BUT YOU WOULD BE IN THE PROGRAM FOR ONE MONTH UNTIL THAT NEXT MEETING READ.
UM, AND LASTLY, I I MENTIONED THIS PART, YOU CAN JOIN AT ANY TIME.
UM, I WANTED TO SHOW A PICTURE AS WELL.
THIS IS, UH, WHAT FOLKS WOULD GET IN THE MAIL, A SAMPLE OPT OUT NOTICE, UM,
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ENVELOPE.UH, MOST COMMUNITIES CHOOSE TO HAVE THEIR LOGO ON THIS AS WELL.
UM, AND SOMETHING WE WILL COORDINATE WITH, UM, STAFF TO SEE IF THEY WOULD LIKE THAT AS WELL.
IT MAKES IT LOOK A LITTLE MORE OFFICIAL.
AND SO FOLKS DON'T JUST PITCH IT IN THE TRASH.
THIS IS WHAT THE SAMPLE FIRST TWO PAGES OF THE OPT OUT LETTER LOOKED LIKE.
UM, AND OVER ON THE LEFT SIDE HERE, YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE THREE, THE THREE OPTIONS OF HOW, UH, TO OPT OUT OF A CHOOSE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE GIST OF THIS DOCUMENT.
AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ANYBODY MIGHT HAVE AND GO FROM THERE.
ANY QUESTIONS, MS. MARIO? OKAY.
YOU SAID THE OPTOUT LETTER WILL BE COMING BY MAIL? YES MA'AM.
WHAT HAPPENS IF THE MAIL SCREWS IT UP? YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT, THAT SIDE OF WHAT US MAIL DOES.
HOWEVER, UM, IF SOMEONE CALLS US AND HAS QUESTIONS ON, YOU KNOW, HOW TO GET OUTTA THE PROGRAM, IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO OR BACK IN OR BACK IN, YOU WORK WITH THEM.
IF THEY DID NOT GET THE MAIL, UM, THEY WOULD AUTOMATICALLY BE ENROLLED BECAUSE IT'S AN OPT OUT PROGRAM.
SO IF NOBODY, IF YOU GET THAT PIECE OF MAIL AND YOU GO, THAT RATE LOOKS GREAT, I'M GONNA HANG TIGHT.
UM, YOU DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING.
AND YOU TALK ABOUT THE RATE OF 9.45, THAT'S WHAT THE CURRENT A ES OHIO STANDARD SERVICE OFFICE IS.
AND YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A DATE AND I DIDN'T CATCH THAT.
THAT OUR CURRENT, WILL THAT BE OUR PRICE? NO, THAT, SO THAT IS WITH A ES OHIO, THE LOCAL UTILITY, THAT'S WHAT'S CALLED THE STANDARD SERVICE OFFER.
THAT IS THE SET, UH, DEFAULT RATE.
IF FOLKS DID NOT HAVE AN AGGREGATION PROGRAM, YOU GUYS DO HAVE AN AGGREGATED AGGREGATION PROGRAM CURRENTLY, AND THAT RATE CURRENTLY IN YOUR PRESENT PROGRAM IS 8.59 CENTS PER KILOWATT HOUR.
UM, BUT THAT 9.45 CENTS IS WHAT FOLKS WOULD HAVE IF THEY OPTED OUT OF THE PROGRAM.
SO WHAT WILL THE BERATE THE, OR WHAT IS THE RATE IF THEY ARE? YEAH, SO WE, WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS HEARING FIRST BEFORE WE'RE ALLOWED TO LOCK.
WE HAVE TO HAVE THE TWO HEARINGS BEFORE WE'RE ALLOWED THE LOCK RATE JUST BY FROM, UH, PUCO REGULATION STANDPOINT.
SO WE WILL BE LOOKING VERY CLOSELY AFTER THESE HEARINGS TO LOCK IN A RATE THAT WOULD START IN OCTOBER.
I THINK THAT NUMBER'S GONNA BE VERY IMPORTANT.
WILL IT BE INCLUDED IN THE LETTER THAT IS MAILED OUT? IT WILL.
IT HAS TO BE A PROBLEM PLACE IN THE LETTER.
IT IS, IT'S IN BOLD AND AT LEAST TWO SPOTS.
DO YOU THINK IT WON'T BE HIGHER THAN NINE? FOUR FIVE OR EIGHT? FIVE NINE? YEAH.
I, I CAN'T, I CAN'T SIT HERE AND TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE, PART OF THE REASON TO GET THESE HEARINGS DONE EARLIER IS TO GIVE US A LONG RUNWAY TO LOOK AT PRICING SO THAT WE CAN LOCK A RATE WHEN THERE IS A DIP IN THE MARKET TO GET BELOW THAT 9.45 CENTS.
AND ONCE THAT IS LOCKED, ARE, ARE WE LOCKED IN FOR THE WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, ONE TO THREE YEARS? IT WOULD, IT IS, IT IS.
UM, IT'S WHATEVER THE CITY AND SOPAC WORK TOGETHER TO, TO LOCK.
DEPENDS ON WHAT CONTRACT SAYS.
OUR CURRENT, EXCUSE ME, OUR CURRENT CONTRACT WITH ENERGY ALLIANCE IS, WAS A THREE YEAR CONTRACT.
UM, WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO STICK WITH, MOVE TO A ONE YEAR CONTRACT BECAUSE OF THE VOLATILITY.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE, UH, IT WAS REALLY GOOD THE FIRST YEAR, UH, NOT SO GREAT THE SECOND YEAR.
UH, AND IT'LL BE OKAY FOR THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS.
UM, 'CAUSE WE'RE BELOW THE, THE STANDARD SERVICE OFFER, BUT OTHER AGGREGATION FOLKS THAT HAVE RECENTLY GONE OUT TO BID, UM, ARE ABOVE WHAT WE'RE PAYING RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND IT'S NOT, WE CAN'T RENEW AT THAT RATE.
IT WOULD, IT WOULD GO BACK OUT TO AUCTION.
BUT WE THINK WITH SO PEX BUYING POWER, UM, IT WOULD BE A BETTER RATE THAN WE'RE DEALING WITH ENERGY ALLIANCE AND THEIR ENERGY BROKER.
IF THE RATE IS GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO THIS COMPANY.
NOW, UH, AS LIKE YOU CAN, IF YOU FIND A LOWER RATE, YOU CAN OPT OUT OF SOAP THAT CAN GO TO ANOTHER, ANOTHER PROVIDER.
BUT I WAS THINKING AS THE AGGREGATION, IF THE RATE COMES IN HIGHER THAN
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WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, WE'RE STILL GOING WITH THIS COMPANY.BUT THIS IS A DONE DEAL, CORRECT? I'M ASKING YES.
NOW, IF THE RATE IT COMES IN HIGHER THAN THE STANDARD SERVICE OFFER, THEN THERE'S NO REASON TO AGGREGATE.
UH, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS BE AD S'S STANDARD SERVICE OFFER.
SO YOU WILL STILL HAVE THE OPTION NOT TO OH, FOR THE PERSON, NOT FOR THE CITY.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UH, IS A REFL, THE APPLICANT, HALEY DUSA GROUP IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A REFL TO DEDICATE 0.11, 0.1557 ACRES OF PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, AND A 0.0975 ACRE LOT CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY THE EAST NEIGHBOR.
PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 6,800 TAYLORSVILLE ROAD CASE RP 25 DASH LEFT, MR. OKAY, SO THIS IS AN APPLICATION THAT WAS STARTED ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, UH, AND NEVER FINISHED.
UM, SO IT IS, UH, 0.87 ACRES, ZONE R ONE.
UM, ESSENTIALLY THE APPLICANT YEARS AGO, UM, UH, BEGAN A LOT SPLIT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, UM, WHICH IS OUTLINED IN RED TO GIVE A SLIVER ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY TO, TO HIS NEIGHBOR.
UM, THEY HAVE SINCE BUILT A FENCE.
THERE'S TALL ARBOR ID, I MEAN, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THE, UH, RELA OCCURRED.
UH, SO, UH, THEY ARE NOW CLEANING THIS UP.
AND SO WHAT WE ARE DOING IS MOVING FORWARD WITH DEDICATING, UM, AND, AND IN THAT TURN TIME ALSO WIDEN TAYLORSVILLE ROAD.
SO THIS REPL OR RECORD PLAN TECHNICALLY, UH, DOES TWO THINGS.
IT DEDICATES, UH, THE, THE AREA OF TAYLORSVILLE ROAD, EXCUSE ME, THAT, UH, SHOULD HAVE, UH, OCCURRED AT THAT TIME, UH, TO THE APPROPRIATE RIGHT OF AWAY WITH WIDTH.
THAT ALSO CREATES LOT TWO, WHICH WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE NEIGHBORS, UH, LOT, UH, ADMINISTRATIVELY.
SO, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS 20 YEARS IN THE MAKING.
UH, WE ARE EFFECTIVELY JUST CLEANING UP LINES ON THE MAP.
UM, IT, EVERYTHING IS BUILT IN PLACE.
UH, WE'RE JUST DOING THE PAPERWORK.
UH, AND SINCE THERE'S LAND BEING DEDICATED TO THE CITY, IT REQUIRES APPROVAL BY THE PLATING COMMISSION, WHICH YOU ALSO ARE THE PLATING COMMISSION.
UH, THIS IS, WHICH IS WHY I BROUGHT THIS TO YOU.
OTHERWISE, SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD'VE BEEN DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY.
SO LIKE I SAID, LOT NUMBER TWO WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE NEIGHBOR'S LOT.
ADMINISTRATIVELY I'LL DO THAT.
NUMBER ONE WILL COMPLY WITH THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
AFTER, UH, ALL OF THAT'S COMPLETED, UH, THE CITY ENGINEER HAD NO COMMENTS.
WE MAY APPROVE, UH, THE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE RECORD PLAN, UH, WITH NO CONDITIONS.
ERIC, AARON, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURE? YEAH.
WHOSE IS THAT? YEAH, SO THIS LOT ZIG ZAGS AND GOES DOWN.
THIS IS THE PIECE THAT WAS STARTED 20 YEARS AGO.
AND THEN WE'RE BASICALLY BRINGING THE RIGHT OF WAY FROM WHERE THE SIDEWALK IS, OR WOULD EVENTUALLY WILL BE AT SOME POINT LINING THESE UP WITH WHERE THE RIGHT OF WAY NEEDS TO BE IN THE FUTURE.
SO THE LOT BEHIND THEM IS ACTUALLY THE NEIGHBORS.
AND THEN THERE'S A, THERE'S A LONG FLAG LOT BEHIND IT.
UH, THERE WAS, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON YEAH.
I, I DROVE THAT THIS AFTERNOON JUST TO GET A VISUAL OF THE LOT AND I WAS CONFUSED.
MS. VARGO, WHAT IS THE ZONING OF LOT ONE AND WHAT WILL BE THE ZONING LEAD OF LOT TWO? THE ZONING OF LOT ONE IS R ONE.
UH, THE ZONING DOESN'T CHANGE FOR EITHER.
UH, THE ZONING FOR LOT ONE IS RR ONE.
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FOR LOT TWO IS R TWO.WELL, R TWO AND IT WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE YEAH.
SO TECHNICALLY, UH, WHAT IS THEIR ZONE? R TWO.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SAME DISTRICT.
THERE'S, OTHER THAN A FENCE, THERE'S NO STRUCTURE, UH, IN THAT EASTERN SLIVER.
JUST FOR, BECAUSE I'M RELATIVELY NEW.
WHAT'S R ONE TWO? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, SO R ONE IS OUR LARGEST LOT AS FAR AS, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE.
AS THE NUMBERS GET HIGHER, THE LOTS GET SMALLER.
SO IT'S KIND OF A, UH, R ONE IS OUR LEAST DENSE.
THANK, HAVE THE NEW MEMBERS BEEN PROVIDED A ZONING CODE THAT HAS THAT INFORMATION IN IT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE, HAVE WE PRINT GIVEN YOU A PRINTED COPY? I WILL MAKE SURE YOU GET ONE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE MR. JOHNSON.
DO YOU HAVE ONE? I DO NOT BELIEVE I DO.
WE ARE ALSO GONNA BE UPDATING THE ZONING CODE PRETTY SOON.
SO, UM, THIS, THIS MAY CHANGE A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT A LOT MORE PROCEDURALS.
LIKE I SAID, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH ALREADY BUILT.
THIS IS JUST CLEANING UP LINES ON THE MAP.
IS THERE ANY REASON IT'S TAKEN 10 YEARS? EVERYBODY FORGOT ABOUT IT.
IT, OH, IT JUST DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T MATTER.
AND I, I THINK WHAT CAME UP THAT MAKES IT MATTER NOW, UH, THE PERSON WHO OWNS THE LOT TO THE EAST, I BELIEVE WANTS TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY.
THEY'RE JUST CLEANING UP THINGS THAT NEVER GOT FINISHED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC AND THEN THE ZONING CASE HEARING, NO ONE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT? HAY DOUCE GROUP FOR APPROVAL OF A REPLANT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 6,800 TAYLORVILLE ROAD, FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PARTIAL NUMBER P 70 0 4 0 0 1 0 0 2 1 IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY, OTS MAP CASE RP 25 DASH 11 IN ACCORDS WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF'S MEMORANDUM DATED JUNE 2ND, 2025.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION RECORD ATTACHED THERE TO, I'LL MAKE MOTION TO MR. UH, MOVED BY MR. SHOPPERS.
UH, SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
WHAT'S NEXT TO THE APPLICANT? UM, I WILL NOTIFY THE APPLICANT THAT IT WAS COMPLETED.
WE WILL SIGN THE APPROPRIATE PAPERWORK AND THEY CAN FILE IT WITH THE COUNTY.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO ASK THE GENTLEMAN THAT JUST WALKED IN HERE, HE NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN.
SO IF YOU PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME.
DO YOU HEREBY SWEAR OR AFFIRM ON THE THREAT OF PERJURY TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? I DO.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, EXCUSE ME, IS A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE APPLICANT, 71 25 EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD, LLC, IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A 154 UNIT.
APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY WAS LOCATED AT 71 25 EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD, CASE DP 25 DASH 12.
OKAY, THE SITE IN QUESTION IS 17, UH, JUST UNDER, OR EXCUSE ME, JUST OVER 17 AND A HALF ACRES ZONED PLANNED MIXED USE.
IT'S VACANT LAND, UH, TO THE WEST IS ZONED.
R TWO, UH, AT EAST AND SOUTH ARE, ARE LARGELY PLANNED, MIXED USE AS WELL.
UH, THIS IS THE SITE IN QUESTION, UH, BASICALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM TJ CHUMPS.
UM, YOU ALSO SEE THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER TO THE, TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE SITE.
UM, THE CITY SOLD THE SITE TO THE, TO, UH, THE APPLICANT A FEW YEARS AGO, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH 'EM EVER SINCE.
UH, ON THIS, ON THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO THIS IS THE, THE SITE PLAN, A MIXTURE OF, UH, ONE
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AND TWO STORY, UH, TOWN HOMES.UH, MAIN ENTRANCE IS THROUGH, THROUGH THE SOUTH.
UH, BASICALLY ALIGNED WITH THE INTERSECTION, THE, THE SIGNAL AS INTERSECTION AT MEYER.
UM, SO THAT'LL BE THE MAIN ENTRANCE AS THE COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE BUILTS OUT.
THERE WILL ALSO BE, UH, SECOND, UH, SECONDARY ACCESS TO THE SITE.
UH, FROM THERE, UH, THERE ARE TWO MAIN DETENTION PONDS IN THE CENTER, UH, AND THEN RESIDENT AMENITIES ON THE, UH, SOUTH, UH, SOUTHEAST OF THE SITE, POOL, DOG PARK, ET CETERA.
UM, AS FAR AS THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN REQUIREMENTS, UH, THERE WAS A 15 AND A 20 FOOT SETBACK.
UH, THE 20 FOOT SETBACK WAS ON THE WEST SIDE TO SEPARATE, UH, FROM THE, THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, THERE WAS A 15 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK ON THE NORTH AND THE EAST SIDE, UH, WHICH HAD SUBSTANTIALLY EITHER LARGER LOTS OR NO DEVELOPMENT.
UH, ON THE EAST SIDE, UM, THERE IS SIDEWALKS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE ALSO CONNECTING THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, THE SIDEWALKS ALONG THE
SO THE, THE RESIDENTS THERE WILL HAVE A, YOU KNOW, THOUSAND FOOT BIKE RIDE VERSUS A TWO AND A HALF MILE BIKE RIDE TO CIRCUMNAVIGATE ALL THE WAY, UH, AROUND, UH, THE AREA.
UH, THIS IS THE, THIS ILLUSTRATES THE SECONDARY CONNECTION THAT WILL BE BUILT AS THE COMMERCIAL, UH, PART, UH, BUILDS OUT.
UM, ALL OF THE UNITS HAVE, UH, AT LEAST A ONE CAR GARAGE AS WELL AS PARKING, UH, IN THE DRIVEWAY.
THERE'S ALSO, UH, VISITOR PARKING THAT IS ALONG SOME OF THE STREETS.
JUST GOING AROUND THE SITE PLAN, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE RESIDENT AMENITIES, THE POOL, THE PICKLEBALL, UH, THE, THE CLUBHOUSE, UH, CENTRALIZED MAILBOX FEATURES, DOG PARK, ET CETERA.
FLIP THROUGH A COUPLE OF THE ELEVATIONS.
UH, THE ELEVATIONS DO SHOW A MIXTURE OF STONE VENEER AS WELL AS VARIOUS BOARD AND BAT SIDING OR, UH, SHAKE SIDING AS WELL AS LAP SIDING.
UH, THIS IS THE CLUBHOUSE, BOTH, UH, FRONT AND REAR ELEVATION.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE TWO STORY, UH, FRONTAGES, UH, WITH THE HIP ROOF.
UH, ON THE END, UH, THE ELEVATION TO THE TOP IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE TWO STORY, UH, BUILDINGS.
UH, AND THEN THE ONE STORY, UH, A TOWNHOUSE APARTMENT, UH, BELOW THIS IS A LANDSCAPING PLAN.
UM, WHAT YOU, WHAT I'M ILLUSTRATING HERE IS THAT THERE IS SIGNIFICANT BUFFERING ON THE WEST SIDE ALONG THE, UH, WHERE THE BOTH MOST DENSE, UH, RESIDENTS ARE.
THERE'S ALSO SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPING ALONG THAT WEST, UH, PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY.
SO AS FAR AS CONFORMANCE WITH THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLANNING COMMITTEE CONDITIONS, UH, THERE, THERE WERE EIGHT CONDITIONS.
SO I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE, THOSE FIVE.
UM, THE FIRST CONDITION WAS THAT THE USES BE PERMITTED.
UH, THOSE USES PERMITTED IN ORDINANCE 23 DASH 0 25 DASH 79.
BASICALLY THAT ORDINANCE PER HIP, UH, PERMITTED ALL RESIDENTIAL USES, BUT HAD A LIST OF PROHIBITED USES LIKE GAS STATIONS, GAMBLING HALLS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UH, SO THIS APPLICANT IS OPPOSING, UH, RESIDENTIAL USES AND CUSTOMARILY ACCEPTED ACCESSORY USES, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT, THAT ORDINANCE.
THAT WAS THE REZONING ORDINANCE THAT STARTED THIS PROJECT IN, UH, 2023.
UH, THE PERIMETER SETBACKS ON THE SOUTH AND WEST ARE TO BE 20 FEET AND ON THE NORTH AND EAST 15 FEET.
THOSE BUILDING SETBACKS ARE INDICATED ON THE PLANS AND ARE BUILT, UH, APPROPRIATELY.
THE THIRD CONDITION WAS THAT THE EXISTING VEGETATION ALONG THE WEST SIDE, UH, BE, UH, PRESERVED AND MAINTAINED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
DEAD D TREES BE REPLACED, UM, WITH THE SPECIES APPROVED BY THE CITY.
SO THERE IS A LOT OF SCRUB TREES ALONG THAT WEST SIDE.
UH, MOST OF THE VEGETATION THAT YOU SEE IS ACTUALLY ON THE RESIDENCE SIDE OF THE FENCE.
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EXISTING TREES THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED.THERE'S ALSO A WATER EASEMENT THAT THAT RUNS THROUGH THERE.
BUT THE APPLICANT IS ILLUSTRATING DENSE, A DENSE LANDSCAPING PLAN, AND PROBABLY BETTER SCREENS, UH, AND IS BETTER MAINTAINED THAN THE EXISTING, UH, FARM, FARM FIELD TREES THAT ARE ALONG THAT, UH, EAST SIDE.
UH, IT WILL PROVIDE A BETTER VISUAL SCREENING FOR THOSE RESIDENTS THAN CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY EXIST.
THEY'RE MORE OF AN APPROPRIATE HEIGHT TO BLOCK ANY, UH, WINDOWS OR LIGHTING, ET CETERA.
UM, THE FOURTH CONDITION WAS THAT SIGNS CONFORM TO SECTION 1189.
THERE ARE NO SIGNS ILLUSTRATED ON THE SITE PLAN.
UM, SO ANY, SO THOSE SIGNS THAT CONFORM TO SECTION 1189 WILL BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED.
IF THEY DON'T, THERE WILL BE A MINOR CHANGE THAT COME TO YOU IN THE FUTURE.
THERE WAS ALSO CONDITION FIVE, SIX AND SEVEN, UH, ONLY CONDITION FIVE IS APPROVED.
UH, AND THAT DEALT WITH WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A WEST WALKWAY.
UH, WE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH, UH, THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT ON WHETHER THAT WEST CONNECTION COULD BE BUILT.
THERE'S SOME GRAY CHALLENGES THERE.
THEY HAD A, THEY HAD A TALL RETAINING WALL THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO TO PUT IN.
UM, THIS APPLICANT, UH, HAS PUT THE WALKWAY BACK IN, WHICH I THINK IS A BETTER, UH, BETTER, UH, APPROACH.
UH, AND SO THE CONDITION WAS IF THAT WEST WALKWAY REMAINED, THEN THE WALL PACK LIGHTS ON THE BACK OF THE, THE BUILDINGS ELIMINATING THE, UH, WALKWAY NEEDED TO BE MOUNTED NO HIGHER THAN 10 FEET.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIGHTING PLAN, UH, THEY SHOW REALLY TWO LIGHTS THAT ARE ON THE REAR OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
ONE IS A PORCH LIGHT THAT'S MOUNTED ABOUT SEVEN FEET, WHICH IS ABOUT THIS TALL, UH, AND THEN ONE THAT'S MOUNTED, UH, AT EIGHT FEET.
UH, SO THEY DO MEET THAT, UH, THAT CONDITION.
UH, IN ADDITION, THE INSTALL LANDSCAPING BASED ON THEIR LANDSCAPING PLAN.
AND THE, UH, THE HEIGHT OF THE, UH, EVERGREEN TREES AT PLANTING SHOULD BLOCK MOST OF THE LIGHTS.
UH, AND IT ADDITIONALLY, THE PHOTOMETRIC PLAN INDICATES THAT THERE IS, UH, NO LIGHT TRESPASS ALONG, UH, THE PROPERTY LINES.
SO ON THE, EXCUSE ME, ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS THE PHOTOMETRIC PLAN.
THE RED LIGHTING SHOWED A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHTING.
YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE DENSE VEGETATION THAT IS PLANNED, UH, TO BE INSTALLED BLOCKING THOSE LIGHTS.
THE, THE, THE LETTERS A, B, A AND B ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF LIGHTS.
THE A LIGHT IS BASICALLY A PORCH LIGHT THAT IS SEVEN FEET TALL OR MOUNTED SEVEN FEET HIGH.
I BE BELIEVE B IS MOUNTED EIGHT FEET TALL.
UM, SO THAT IS TO THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH.
NO LIGHT TRESPASS ACROSS THE PROPERTY LINES.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, UH, A DENSE, UH, EVERGREEN SCREENING WILL ALSO, UH, FURTHER BLOCKING GLARE FROM THE, FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD.
SO AS FAR AS THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN ANALYSIS AND THE CONFORMANCE WITH THE PLANNED MIXED USE DISTRICTS, RESIDENTIAL USES ARE PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED IN THIS DISTRICT.
UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED, UH, IS CONSISTENT WITH THE IMPROVED BUILDING SETBACKS AND YARD SET, UH, REQUIREMENTS.
UH, THE PHASE ONE HOUSING DENSITY, UH, IS REDUCED TO JUST OVER 11 DWELLING UNITS AN ACRE.
UH, AS FAR AS PARKING, THE APPLICANT IS ILLUSTRATING APPROXIMATELY 400, UH, PARKING SPACES, WHICH IS MORE THAN THE 300 THAT'S REQUIRED.
UH, AND THE PARKING STALL DIMENSIONS ARE 10 BY 18, UH, AS REQUIRED.
AS FAR AS BUILDING MATERIALS, THE EXTERIOR CLADDING IS A MIXTURE OF STONE VENEER AND THEN VARIOUS VINYL, UH, SIDING, INCLUDING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO SAY SHAKE, NOT SAKI, UH, AND BATTEN.
AND, UH, WORD HORIZONTAL SIDING.
UH, BUILDINGS ARE A, UH, MIXTURE OF, UH, ONE AND TWO STORY AS I AS I SHOWED.
UM, AS FAR AS THE LANDSCAPING PLAN, THE PLAN ILLUSTRATES A MIXTURE OF EVERGREEN SHADE TREES, ORNAMENTAL TREES, AS LONG AS, AS WELL AS SHRUGGED GRASSES AND PERENNIALS.
UM, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PERIMETER LANDSCAPING ALONG THE WEST AND SOUTH EDGES CREATING, UH, SUBSTANTIAL SCREENING
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BETWEEN THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USES, UH, AND THE FUTURE COMMERCIAL USES.UH, THE LANDSCAPING PLAN DOES MEET THE ZONING CODE REQUIREMENTS.
UH, COMMENTS BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WERE PREVIOUSLY ADDRESSED BY THE APPLICANT AND THAT REALLY JUST DEALT WITH, UM, UH, FIRE HYBRID SPACING.
UH, THE CITY ENGINEER HAD NO, UH, COMMENTS.
ALL, ALL OF HIS ISSUES WERE, WERE ADDRESSED.
UM, SO IN STAFF'S OPINION, THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 11 71 0 6 CAN BE MET AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLANS SUBMITTED ON MAY 20TH WITH, UH, THE FOLLOWING CONDITION THAT A PERPETUAL PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT, UH, BE RECORDED FOR THE MAIN ENTRANCE FROM THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE NORTH, APPROXIMATELY 220 FEET, UH, OR THAT AREA BE DEDICATED AS PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY THROUGH A REVISED RECORD PLAN.
UH, AND SO HERE'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
UM, WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS THAT THERE BE A PERPETUAL PUBLIC EASEMENT THAT ALLOWS ACCESS TO THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST, THE FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST, UM, AS WELL AS ACCESS TO THE RESIDENCE.
THIS IS, UM, FOR THE FUTURE WHEN THE APPLICANT NO LONGER OWNS THIS PROPERTY, SELLS IT TO ANOTHER DEVELOPER, WE DON'T WANT THERE TO BE A FUTURE FIGHT BETWEEN BUILDING OWNERS, PROPERTY OWNERS, ET CETERA.
SO, UH, WE'RE EITHER ASKING FOR A PETROL EASEMENT, UH, OR THAT ENTRANCE, BASICALLY BE DEDICATED AS RIGHT AWAY TO THE CITY, TAKE OVER THE MAINTENANCE.
UH, SO THAT'S A DETAIL THAT WE CAN WORK OUT AS WITH THE APPLICANT AS FAR AS WHICH APPROACH IS BETTER.
BUT WE DO WANT THAT AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
SO AS FAR AS STAFF ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATION, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION CAN EITHER APPROVE THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH OR WITHOUT CONDITIONS, DENY THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR TABLE THE APPLICATION FOR, UH, FUTURE CONSIDERATION.
UH, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN'T.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM, YES, I, UM, YOU SAID THIS, THIS COMPLEX IS GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED ACROSS FROM TJ HUM.
DID I HEAR THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND APOLOGIES, BECAUSE I MAY HAVE JUST OVERLOOKED THIS IN THE BLUEPRINTS, BUT IS THERE GONNA BE A WAY FOR RESIDENTS TO EASILY EGRESS INGRESS DURING, SAY, ROSE ENTERTAINMENT GOING ON WHERE THEY USUALLY HAVE EVERYTHING BLOCKED OFF AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? YEAH, SO, UM, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AS WELL.
UH, 'CAUSE YOU HAVE REVERB APARTMENTS TO THE WEST THAT JUST, UH, BROKE GROUND.
UM, WE JUST ANNOUNCED A NEW INDOOR MUSIC CENTER, WHICH WILL BE TO THE EAST OF THIS SITE.
UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY DESIGNING, UM, PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS, UH, ALONG EXECUTIVES RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S NOTHING TO CONNECT TO.
BUT AS THE, AS EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD IS BUILT OUT, WE WANT TO, UH, SLOW THE, MANAGE THE TRAFFIC AND ALSO CREATE, UH, A WALKABLE, PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED AREA THAT HAS, UH, THOUGHTFUL CONNECTION POINTS BOTH TO THE ROADS, TO TJ HUMS TO DOUBLE SEVEN THAT WAS ANNOUNCED YESTERDAY AS WELL, AS WELL AS WORKING WADE TO THE, TO THE WEST.
SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS NOW, UH, WORKING WITH THE APPLICANTS OF ALL OF THESE TO FIGURE OUT THE RIGHT PEDESTRIAN, UH, CONNECTIONS.
WE WILL ALSO BE PUTTING IN PEDESTRIAN, UH, DECORATIVE LIGHTING ALONG EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD.
THAT WAS, UH, ONE OF THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE MADE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, THE, THE RE BIRD DEVELOPMENT TEAM YEARS AGO.
THAT AS THIS DISTRICT BUILT OUT, WE WOULD, UH, REALLY ENHANCE THIS WITH THE MORE PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES.
SO ALL OF THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER, UNDER DEVELOPMENT.
UH, MOST OF THESE PROJECTS WILL BE CONSTRUCTED, FINISHED PROBABLY BY MID 26.
AND SO THAT'S WHEN, MID 26, LATE 26, THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD THEN PUT IN THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING, THE CROSSWALKS, ALL OF THAT.
SO THAT'S IN OUR 2026 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WHICH WE ARE, ARE DEVELOPING NOW.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A CROSSWALK THERE.
WILL THERE BE A LIGHT? THERE ALREADY IS A LIGHT AT, UH, AT THIS INTERSECTION.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE BEHIND THE BUYER'S LIGHT? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT RED LIGHT, GREEN LIGHT
THERE ALREADY IS ONE AND, AND IT WILL BE, BUT IT IS BEFORE YOU GET TO JUMPS, IT'S RIGHT HERE.
SO THIS WILL BE THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
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WILL HAVE, WHICH WILL BE A FULL, FULL UH, FULL CONTROL.IS THAT GONNA GO INTO THE PARKING LOT OF THE THE GROCERY STORE? YES, IT DOES NOW.
UH, AND THEN THE ROAD WILL BE CONSTRUCTED ACROSS THE STREET.
IT'S THAT SAME ONE, RIGHT? IT'S THAT SAME LIGHT.
UM, YEAH, I CUT THIS OFF, BUT THE PLANTS DO SHOW THE ALIGNMENT OF THAT INTERSECTION.
MR.
AND THAT'LL BE WIDE ENOUGH FOR BIKES? TWO-WAY TRAFFIC BIKES OR? IT'S, IT'S FIVE FEET.
THAT'S ABOUT AS WIDE AS WE COULD GET.
UM, THE MULTI-USE PATH THAT WE'RE GONNA BE BUILDING ALONG EXECUTIVE WILL BE 11 FEET.
WE DON'T HAVE 11 FEET IN EVERY PLACE, BUT IT'S PRETTY CLOSE.
AND THE VISITING PARKING IS, UM, IT IS KIND OF LIKE FOUR SECTIONS OF IT.
IT'S, IT'S KIND OF SCATTERED THROUGHOUT.
I GUESS THIS IS MORE FOR THE VISITORS, FOR THE VISITORS THERE.
IS THAT ENOUGH? UH, I WOULD SAY IT'S EXCESSIVE FOR WHAT WE NORMALLY DO.
I ASSUME THERE'S NO PARKING ON THE STREETS.
AND IS THERE ENOUGH AROUND THE POOL AREA FOR THOSE THAT WALK OR DON'T WALK TO THE SCHOOL? THEY RIDE TO THE POOL.
THEY RIDE TO PICKLEBALL AND WE PLAY, WE ACTUALLY LOCATED TWO, TWO, UM, DIFFERENT, UM, GUEST PARKINGS AROUND THE CLUBHOUSE IN THE POOL AREA.
SO YOU'LL SEE IT ON THE NORTH AND THE EAST, AND THEN A LITTLE BIT SOME ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SOUTH, OTHER STREET TOO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF MS. VARGA? UM, LET'S START WITH THE CONDITIONS.
UM, YOU SAID, UH, THAT THE CONDITION, THESE WERE THE CONDITIONS THAT HAD BEEN AMENDED AND SOUTH AND WEST.
THE SETBACK IS NOW 20 FEET AND NORTH AND EAST IS 15 FEET.
WHAT WAS IT BEFORE IT WAS AMENDED? SO THE, THOSE SETBACKS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY FROM, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE 15 AND 20 HAVE BEEN THERE.
UH, IT WAS THE LAST CONDITION THAT THAT WAS AMENDED.
UM, THERE WERE CONDITIONS FIVE, SIX, AND SEVEN AND THEY DEALT WITH WHETHER THE SIDEWALK WAS BUILT OR NOT BUILT.
AND SINCE IT'S NOT, SINCE IT WILL BE BUILT, I JUST INCLUDED THE CONDITION THAT MATTERED AND THAT LEADS ME TO MY NEXT, I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH IF THE SIDEWALK IS BUILT, IF THE WALKWAY IS NOT, I, I HAVE A PROBLEM APPROVING SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW IS GONNA HAPPEN OR NOT, WE'VE NOT DONE.
THAT'S NOT A PRACTICE OR SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, I DON'T BELIEVE.
AND I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH NOT KNOWING.
IS THERE REASON, ANY REASON THAT WE CAN'T KNOW IF ASIDE WHICH, WHICH IT'S GONNA BE.
SO WE DO KNOW NOW, UM, THOSE CONDITIONS WERE THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UM, WHEN, WHEN THERE WAS UNCERTAINTY AS WHETHER OR NOT THEY COULD ENGINEER THE SIDEWALK IN THAT AREA, THIS WAS THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT.
UH, AND THEY SORT OF WAFFLED BACK AND FORTH DURING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE PLAN.
NOT THIS APPLICANT, THE PREVIOUS ONE, WAFFLED BACK AND FORTH AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY COULD FIT THAT, UH, THAT SITE PLAN.
WE PUT THAT CONDITION IN AS, UH, THOSE CONDITIONS.
I UNDERSTAND IT WAS IN PRIOR, BUT THIS IS THE, THAT WAS IN THE BASIC RIGHT? CORRECT.
THE DETAIL SHOWS THE SIDEWALK.
SO THE, THE SIDEWALK WILL BE BUILT THAT, THAT WAS WHAT WAS APPLIED.
SO THERE ARE NO MORE IFS NO, THERE ARE NO MORE IFS.
UH, THE OTHER THING THAT I, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM WITH IS, WAIT A MINUTE.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY SIGNS AT THE MOMENT.
UM, SO, UH, LIKE I SAID, IF, IF THIS IS THE DETAIL, WE WON'T SEE IT AGAIN.
IF, IF THE SIGN CONFORMS WITH OUR SIGN CODE, WE WOULD JUST ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE THAT.
UM, SO SIX FEET, 75 SQUARE FEET, SIX FOOT HIGH WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM 75 SQUARE FEET.
UM, BUT IF THEY DON'T COMPLY, WE WOULD BRING THAT
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BACK, BACK TO YOU FOR REVIEW.I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY, BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T FULLY NAMED, THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE A BRAND YET FOR, UH, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO, UM, AND WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST WHERE I KNOW YEAH.
AND I HAVEN'T BEEN PLEASED WITH THAT AT THAT TIME EITHER, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WHAT, WHEN IT COMES BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE SUPPOSED TO APPROVE, THAT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE, WE NEED TO SEE SOMETHING.
AND I UNDERSTAND THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING, THE NAME'S GONNA BE.
BUT, UH, I, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD KNOW.
UH, IT'S VERY, IT'S BUILT LIKE, UM, REDWOODS UP IN YEAH.
AND BUT YOU SAID ARE, ARE YOU THE TWO AND A HALF MILES YOU SAY A BIKE PATH? NO.
SO, UH, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO WHEN THIS STARTED IN 2023, THERE WAS QUESTIONS OF WHETHER THERE WOULD BE AN ACCESS ON THE WEST SIDE OR NOT.
STAFF WANTED AN ACCESS, PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, SO THOSE RESIDENTS COULD MORE EASILY GET DOWN TO THE COMMERCIAL AREA.
OTHERWISE, IF YOU'RE ON FOOT, IT'S A TWO MILE WALK TO GET AROUND ALL THE WAY DOWN TO DOWN SHAW TO BRANT AND ACROSS THIS CUTS IT DRAMATICALLY.
AND NOW TO GET TO THE, UH, RENDERINGS OF THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES, UM, I NOTICED ON THE LAST ONE THAT YOU SHOWED THE, THE ONE STORE.
DO ALL THE ONE STORES HAVE TWO CAR GARAGES? UM, THOSE ARE ALL, THOSE ARE ONE CAR GARAGE? WELL SOME OF THEM DO HAVE TWO.
THERE IS A SIDE MA SIDE LOADED SINGLE CAR GARAGE.
SO, BUT THIS ONE, THE GARAGE IS ACTUALLY SIDE LOADED.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT SHOWS TWO CAR GARAGES.
YEAH, THERE ARE SOME, IT'S NOT A FULL TWO CAR.
WELL, SO WHAT THEY SIR, SIR, JUST LET'S, OH, OKAY.
UM, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET TWO F1 FIFTIES IN THERE, BUT YOU GET TWO SMALL CARS.
AND I THINK THIS IS THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY ON STREET PARKING MALAWI? THERE WILL NOT BE.
THERE WILL NOT BE ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S.
NOT GONNA WANT ON STREETE PARKING WITH, UH, WITH THE WAY THE SIDEWALKS IN THE, IN THE, THIS GOES BACK TO THE SIGNAGE I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
HOW ARE THE PEOPLE GONNA KNOW THIS? WE, THERE WILL BE SIGNS THAT ARE ERECTED.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU SIR.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT? I WAS JUST GONNA CLARIFY GOING UP THE MICROPHONE.
STATE YOUR NAME AND SIGN IT ON THE SIGN SHEET.
YOU SHOULD KNOW PLENTY OF TIMES.
I'M, UH, ONE OF THE PARTNERS IN THE, UH, OWNERSHIP GROUP FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND I WAS JUST GOING TO TRY TO HELP TO CLARIFY THAT ALL THE UNITS, THE SINGLE STORY, YOUR QUESTION WAS HAVE TWO CAR GARAGES THAT ARE TWO BEDROOM.
THERE ARE SOME END CAP UNITS THAT ARE ONE BEDROOM THAT HAVE A ONE CAR GARAGE.
BUT SO JUST TO DIFFERENTIATE AND CLARIFY YOUR QUESTION.
AND ARE ALL OF THOSE UNITS FACING ONTO EXECUTIVE OR SOME OF THEM IN THE BACK? UH, WHICH UNITS ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT? THE ONE BEDROOM, TWO, TWO CAR GARAGES? THERE ARE NO, THERE ARE NO TWO CAR GARAGES VISIBLE FROM EXECUTIVE.
THERE ARE NO TWO CAR GARAGES VISIBLE FROM EXECUTIVE.
IF I CAN APPROACH HERE, I CAN SHOW YOU.
UH, EXECUTIVE IS, UH, SO THIS IS A, UH, FIVE ACRE PARCEL THAT'S IN FRONT THAT SEPARATES US FROM EXECUTIVE.
SO THIS WOULD BE THE EXECUTIVE FACING, THESE ARE ALL COVERED PORCHES AND SCREENED IN PORCHES.
WE HAVE A, UH, 45 FOOT BUFFER WITH A SMALL MOUND, I BELIEVE IN THE BACK HERE ALSO THAT WOULD SEPARATE THIS FROM THE FUTURE BELT PARCEL.
SO THERE ARE NO GARAGES VISIBLE.
AND YOU SAY THERE'S FIVE ACRES, ACRES THERE? THIS SITE RIGHT HERE.
IS, UH, ABOUT, SO THAT'S SEVEN.
THAT'LL BE QUITE A LITTLE LONG FROM THERE IF YOU WANTED TO GO
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OUT TO THAT.BUT, BUT ARE THERE SIDEWALKS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT BLOCK? YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT ONLY THERE'S SIDEWALKS HERE, BUT, UH, YOUR QUESTION WAS, WAS THERE SIDEWALKS ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD? THERE'S NOT, BUT THERE'S A SIDEWALK ON EVERY ROAD.
AND WHAT WE TRY TO DO IN OUR DEVELOPMENTS IS WE HAVE THE PONDS, WE TRY TO MAKE THE PONDS A AESTHETIC FEATURE.
AND SO WE HAVE WALKING PATHS AROUND THE PONDS THAT PEOPLE CAN ENJOY AS WELL.
SO ANYBODY COMING THROUGH, YOU CAN JUST TAKE THE PATH LEAST RESISTANCE.
YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS SITE IS DEVELOPED, IT, YOU KNOW, IT'LL ADDRESS WHERE THIS PATH GOES.
BUT YOU CAN COME DOWN HERE, YOU CAN WALK UP THE PATH, YOU CAN WALK AROUND THE POND.
YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HUG THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU CAN ENJOY THE OTHER SIDEWALK SITTING, WALKING PAST THE, BUT IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THE, THE ROAD'S GONNA BE OR THE ENTRANCE, UH, UP.
THIS IS THE ENTRANCE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS OUR PROPERTY LINE HERE.
THE CROSSWALK WILL BE, YEAH, THERE'LL BE NO CROSSWALK ON THIS SIDE WHEN THIS IS, THIS IS THE PARCEL LINE HERE THAT ENDS THE DEVELOPMENT WHEN PHASE TWO IS DEVELOPED.
UM, WE WILL MAKE THAT CONNECTION THROUGH THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON THAT WEST SIDE CONNECTION DOWN TO EXECUTIVE.
AND, AND DOES YOUR COMPANY, IS YOUR COMPANY INVOLVED IN PHASE TWO AT ALL? UH, YES.
WE WOULD LIKE TO, WE HAVE A PURCHASE AGREEMENT THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, UH, THAT IS WAITING FOR US TO BE, TO COME TOGETHER AND EXECUTE.
SO, UH, WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, WE DECIDE TO FOCUS ON PHASE ONE, GET IT THROUGH, GET IT STARTED, AND THEN WE'LL WE WERE HOPING TO TAKE A REAL GOOD RUN AT PHASE TWO TOO.
AND IS THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT ONE PHASE? UH, YES.
WELL, IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT FROM, FROM A CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT, YES IT IS.
SOMETIMES WE PHASE IT FOR FINANCING.
WILL IT BE FROM FRONT TO BACK OR BACK TO FRONT OR, UH, YEAH, SO WE ACTUALLY, UH, WILL HAVE, UM, START HERE WITH OUR ENTRANCE.
UH, THE, UH, CITY IS, I BELIEVE IT'S, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PROOF, BUT WE'VE DISCUSSED IT AS PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE'LL GET A, A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT THAT'LL COME THROUGH HERE, UH, THAT WE WILL, WE'LL PUT IN A TEMPORARY ROAD.
WE'LL ALSO TAKE IT OUT AND PUT IT BACK, ALTHOUGH WE ARE ANTICIPATING DEVELOPING THIS PIECE.
UM, AND THAT WAY WE CAN BUILD THE PRODUCT.
UH, RIGHT NOW WE KIND OF VISUALIZE THIS AS PHASE ONE FOR FINANCING AND UNDERWRITING PURPOSES.
SO THE PROJECT WILL BE BUILT THIS WAY AND, BUT WE DO HAVE TO BUILD THIS ENTIRE ROAD BACK TO THE CONNECTION FOR FIRE, LIFE AND SAFETY.
AND WE ARE PUTTING IN THIS UTILITY, UH, UTILITY AND ROAD THROUGH HERE.
IT SHOULD BUILD ALL CONSECUTIVE.
THERE SHOULD BE NO BREAK IN CONSTRUCTION AND, BUT IT'LL BUILD THIS WAY.
AS WE GET TO THIS POINT, WE, UH, TRY TO GET BUILDING PERMITS AND OCCUPY UNITS AS THEY'RE APPROVED FOR OCCUPANCY PERMITS.
SO WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A BUILD AND FILL MODEL WITH HORIZONTAL MULTIFAMILY.
SO AS THE CLUBHOUSE GETS DONE AND BUILDINGS GET DONE AND WE LOOP OUR FIRE LIFE AND SAFETY AND WE ACT FIRE, LIFE AND SAFETY, AND WE CAN GET BUILDING PERMITS, WE'LL START TO MARKET THOSE.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE CONSTRUCTION NOW DIVERT HERE AND ONLY GO THROUGH HERE THE SAME.
WOULD YOU BE SO KIND, MR. SHOPPERS TO UH, READDRESS THIS GENTLEMAN HERE? AGAIN, THE, THE PARKING, I KNOW NO PARKING ON THE STREETS, UM, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE HAPPY WITH THE VISITING PARKING FOR YOUR GUESTS.
AND SO JUST TO POINT OUT SOMETHING WITH YOU, AND WE HAVE HERE, HERE, HERE WE HAVE, HERE WE HAVE HERE WE HAVE HERE AND WE HAVE HERE.
WE, WE PURPOSELY PUT IT OUT IN DIFFERENT SPOTS.
SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SEVEN LOCATIONS OF VISITOR PARKING OF, YOU KNOW, SIX TO EIGHT SPACES.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD.
WE NORMALLY DON'T, IS IT, I DUNNO IF IT'S APPROPRIATE, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO ASK THE PRICE POINT FOR YOUR PRODUCTS? WE HAVEN'T ESTABLISHED A PRICE POINT FOR THE PROJECT, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WILL BE IN LINE WITH A PARK VIEW.
UM, BUT IN REVERB WE DO HAVE ATTACHED TWO CAR GARAGES, WHICH SEPARATES US FROM THOSE TWO PROJECTS.
SO YOU CAN ANTICIPATE WE MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THOSE BECAUSE OF THE GARAGES.
AND SOMETHING THAT HAVE HELPS WITH THE STREET CAR PARKING IN ADDITION TO THE GUEST PARKING IS THAT, UM, YOU'LL, YOU MAY NOTICE, I'LL POINT OUT THAT EVEN ON OUR ONE CAR GARAGE TOWN HOMES, WE HAVE A DOUBLE WIDE DRIVEWAY.
AND WHAT THAT ALLOWS SOMEONE TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO PARK BEHIND THE CAR IN THE GARAGE AND HAVE TO MOVE SO YOU CAN PARK YOUR CAR IN THE DRIVEWAY AND THE GARAGE CAR CAN GO IN AND OUT.
SO THAT TAKES REALLY ALL, NOBODY REALLY
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PARKS ON THE STREET.WE DO PUT LITTLE SIGNS OUT AND SAY NO STREET PARKING.
OUR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY ENFORCE THAT AIN ANYBODY PARKS IN THE STREET, WHICH RARELY OR NEVER HAPPENS, THEY GET A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT TICKET AND THEY GET, YOU KNOW, MORE TO TAKE IT OFF.
BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A STREET PARK'S PROBABLY IN ANY OF OUR
AND THE REASON OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING TWO CAR GARAGE PLUS TWO CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY, EVEN ON YOUR SINGLE CAR GARAGE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A SINGLE CAR GARAGE SPACE PLUS TWO DRIVEWAY SPACES.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU SAW, I THINK AARON POINTED OUT THERE WAS A 308 PARKING REQUIRED TO, WE HAVE 408 SPOTS, UH, AVAILABLE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE ADVOCATE? APPRECIATE THANK YOU SIR.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW MUSIC CENTER TOO AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO HELP WORK WITH THE ACCESS AND MAKE EVERYTHING WORK TOGETHER.
THAT'LL BE A GREAT AMENITY FOR OUR PROJECT.
AND WE'RE, UH, WE'VE REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH AARON AND THE TEAM, SO THANK YOU.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, MAY I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? SURE, ABSOLUTELY.
ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE AN ON ONSITE MANAGER? YES, WE HAVE ONSITE MANAGEMENT AND ONSITE UH, MAINTENANCE TECH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS? ANY CASE I'M HEARING? NO ONE.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION.
IS THERE A, UH, A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT? 71 25 EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD, LLC FOR APPROVAL OF A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED, EXCUSE ME, AT 71 25 EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD, FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL NUMBER P 70 0 3 9 1 0 0 0 8 2 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY HONORS MAP CASE DDP 25 12 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF'S MEMORANDUM DATED JUNE 2ND, 2025 AND THE PLAINTIFF COMMISSION'S DECISION RECORD ATTACHED HERE TO MOVED BY MS. THOMAS.
IS THERE A SECOND? YES, MA'AM.
UH, SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MR. SHOPPER? YES.
WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE APPLICANT? EXCUSE ME.
UH, WE WILL, UM, MAKE ANY NECESSARY CHANGES, UH, TO THE DOCUMENTS AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL GET ROLLING WITH THE ZONING PERMITS.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES WITHOUT OBJECTIONS TO THE MINUTES OF THE APRIL 15TH, 2025.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WILL BE APPROVED.
UH, REPORTS AND CALENDAR REVIEW.
UM, NOT A WHOLE LOT TO REPORT.
UM, I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE UPDATING THE ZONING CODE.
UM, WE APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED A, UH, STATE OF OHIO GRANT FOR UPDATING OUR DEVELOPMENT CODES.
WE WERE, THAT WAS JUST, UH, ANNOUNCED LAST WEEK.
UH, SO I NEED TO PUT A PROCESS TOGETHER ON WHICH YOU'LL ALL BE INVOLVED.
UH, AND WE WILL START THAT PROCESS, UH, PRETTY QUICKLY BECAUSE THEY GAVE US, UH, A ONE YEAR TIMELINE TO, TO GET IT DONE COMING IN.
HUH? THE ONLY THING THAT WILL BE COMING IN IS SEVEN BREW WAS APPROVED BY, UM, COUNCIL LAST NIGHT.
UH, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE ING TO GET MOVING, SO THEY'RE GONNA SUBMIT FOR THE JULY 15TH, UM, UH, MEETING FOR THEIR DETAILED DEVELOPMENT.
UH, OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING ELSE.
CAN YOU GIVE US ANY INFORMATION ABOUT HE HAD MENTIONED EXCITED ABOUT THE MUSIC EXHIBIT? YES.
DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THAT? YES.
UH, THE MARINA STAT LAST NIGHT NIGHT AT HIS STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS.
UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING, UM, WITH, UH, MIMI AND GDN ARCHITECTS, UH, WHO ALSO DESIGNED THE ROADS, UH, TO, TO DEVELOP A, A ROUND, A 3000 SEAT INDOOR FACILITY THAT WOULD BE BUILT EAST OF THIS, UM, SITE.
UH, SO WE, WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH THE, THIS APPLICANT TO DECONFLICT THAT ENTRANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF, OF CAPACITY GOING, GOING IN AND OUT.
UM, WE HAVE STARTED JUST THE INITIAL PROCESS, UH, OF THAT.
UM, WE'VE STARTED SOME GEOTECHNICAL WORK ON OUR LAND AS, AS WELL AS PHASE ONE SURVEYS, UM, JUST TO, TO START TO SET THE STAGE.
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THERE WILL BE UNDERWAY WITH SITE WORK THIS YEAR, UM, WITH THE, UH, ANTICIPATION OF OPENING LATE NEXT YEAR, EARLY 27.UM, THINK OF, UM, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU COME IN EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD, UH, AND YOU, THERE'S SORT OF THAT CURVE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LAYMAN FORM BARN IN THAT AREA, UH, WHAT'S LEFT? YEAH.
THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE, ON THE OTHER SIDE.
SO IS THIS, THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS, SO THEY COULD HAVE YEAR ROUND, I'M ASSUMING, VERSUS SEASONAL.
SO WHAT, IT'S A DIFFERENT, A MORE, UH, VARIETY OF ACTS.
THERE WILL ALSO BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO TWO SHOWS AT THE SAME TIME ON THOSE RARE OCCASIONS.
BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PERFORMERS WHO PASS BY WHO DON'T WANT TO PLAY IN AMPHITHEATER, DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRAVELING IN THE WINTER OR, YOU KNOW, AND SO, UH, MIMI THINKS THAT THIS IS A, UM, PRIME LOCATION TO ATTRACT THOSE BANDS TRAVELING EAST WEST.
SO YOU DON'T THINK THIS IS GONNA HURT THE ATTENDANCE OF THE ROWS? NO, NO.
UH, THE IS STATE MANAGEMENT COMPANY AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT GONNA TRY UNDERCUT THEMSELVES.
UM, THEY ARE LOOKING FOR MORE, THERE'S A MARKET FOR MORE, I GUESS I CALL IT SORT OF INTIMATE BAND OR SETTING THAT THE OUTDOOR AMPHITHEATER JUST DOESN'T PROVIDE.
SO IT IS MODELED AFTER THE BRADY CENTER, UH, IN CINCINNATI, UH, MADE SORT OF A SLIGHTLY SMALLER VERSION OF THAT.
UH, THEY, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, THEY FELT THEY BUILT THE BRADY A LITTLE TOO LARGE.
UM, BANDS WANTED TO BE MORE IN THE 3000 SEAT, 3,500 SEAT RANGE.
UM, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TARGETING.
THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THE ROSE WAS REPLACED RECENTLY.
WAS THERE, I MEAN, JUST CURIOSITY, I GUESS I CAN ASK OTHER PEOPLE.
DO YOU KNOW WHY
UM, BUT FOOT TRACKER, WE, WE ARE NO BADGE CONTRACTOR.
LIKE I SAID, WE ARE, UH, WORKING TO CREATE MORE PEDESTRIAN LINKAGES ALONG EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD AS WE HAVE MORE DESTINATIONS TO LINK TO.
CAN WE TARGET MORE 80
FROM WHAT I HEARD, THE MAYOR ALSO MENTIONED DUBLIN SEVEN.
WHERE IS THAT GONNA BE IN EASIER? I KNOW HE ALSO MENTIONED, UH, DID HE MENTION ANOTHER HOTEL AND MORE RESTAURANTS? YES.
AND YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFICS ON THOSE? I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY ASKS, RIGHT.
SO IF I CAN GIVE ANSWERS THEN.
SO THIS IS WHAT WAS JUST ABOUT, UH, APPROVED RIGHT HERE.
UM, THE NEW MUSIC CENTER WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT HERE.
SO AS YOU COME IN EXECUTIVE, THAT WILL BE THE BIG, THE KEY BIG BUILDING THAT YOU SEE.
UH, THE HOTEL IS LOOKING HERE.
UH, I CAN'T TELL YOU THE FLAG BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN BELIEVED.
BUT, UH, IT'S A NATIONAL BRAND.
AND YOU TELL ME SOMETHING ABOUT THE FIRE STATION NORTH AND UM, IS IT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S THAT? THE FIRE STATION? MM-HMM
UH, SO AS PART OF OUR AGREEMENT WITH DECK, UM, UH, PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH DECK, UM, THEY ARE GOING TO DONATE, UH, I THINK IT'S TWO, MAYBE THREE ACRES WHERE WE WILL EVENTUALLY BUILD A NEW FIRE STATION ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CITY.
BUT IT IS NOT, IS THE IMMEDIATE PLANS.
IT'S NOT AN THE IMMEDIATE PLANS.
ONE ON THE TWO ON ONE SIDE AND ONE GO TWO SIDE.
AND THEN YOU ASKED THAT ON DOUBLE SIDE? YEAH.
SO IN FRONT OF CHUNKS? YEAH, IN FRONT OF HOTEL.
NOW WE STILL OWN THIS LOT HERE, UH, WHICH ARE ACTIVELY MARKETING FOR ANOTHER HOTEL, OR EXCUSE ME, ANOTHER UH, RESTAURANT OR ENTERTAINMENT USE.
BUT AS PART OF THE REVERB DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UM, THEY GAVE US FIVE ACRES OF WHICH 'CAUSE OF THE STREAM, ABOUT THREE AND A HALF IS BILLABLE.
WAIT, I JUST MISSED SOMETHING.
YOU POINTED OUT SOMETHING IN FRONT OF THE HOTEL.
WHAT WOULD THAT BE? THAT THAT WOULD BE THE NEW DUBLIN SEVEN RESTAURANT.
OH, WILL THEY HAVE THE OUTDOOR SEATING? UM, JUST LIKE THEY DO DOWNTOWN.
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WE HAVE THE CURRENT HOTEL THERE.UM, NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING A NEW ONE.
WHAT'S THE OCCUPANCY RATE FOR THE CURRENT HOTEL AND HOW IS THAT GONNA WARRANT HAVING ANOTHER NEW HOTEL? BECAUSE I, I, AND I DRIVE BY THERE BECAUSE SEEMED NEVER BE THAT BUSY.
UH, SO WHAT, WHAT WE WERE TOLD IS THEY'RE DOING EXTREMELY WELL.
UH, AND THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF HOTEL OPERATORS THAT HAVE BEEN SORT OF SW SWIRLING AROUND LOOKING, LOOKING AT THIS AREA.
UM, I, MY OBSERVATION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S 99 ROOMS ISH, OR A HUNDRED AND SO ROOMS, THE OTHER HOTEL IS LOOKING AT ABOUT A HUNDRED ROOMS OR SO.
THAT'S KIND OF THE SWEET SPOT FOR THE, FOR THIS MARKET.
YOU HAVE LIKE A CONFERENCE CENTER TO HELP DRIVE IN A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A IT WILL.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT, UM, THE, THE, THE MUSIC CENTER WILL ALSO HAVE FLEX SPACE FOR THOSE OFF NIGHTS TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE KIND OF A CONVENTIONS TYPE OF, OF, UH, USES THAT, THAT COMPLIMENT THE HOTEL.
TRYING TO BUILD MORE THAN JUST A ONE TRICK AS FAR AS, DID HE MENTION TWO RESTAURANTS OTHER THAN ONE? SEVEN? AND AGAIN, I CAN'T MENTION NAMES YET.
SO THE, THERE ARE TWO LOTS THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE, WITH THE HOTEL.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE HAVE, THEY HAVE AN I ONE, THE HOTEL OWNER GROUP ALSO OPERATES, UH, SOME RESTAURANTS, SO.
I ASSUME ONE OF THOSE WILL BE THEIRS THERE.
UH, BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE SECOND ONE.
IT'S SOMETHING, NO MORE CHICKEN PIZZA.
ANYTHING ELSE TO BRING UP BEFORE THE COMMISSION? YES SIR.