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YEAH.I SHALL CALL THE MEETING THE CITY
[ AGENDA CITY PLANNING COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road March 11, 2025 6:00 P.M. ]
OF HUBER HEIGHTS PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER.MR. RE, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? YES.
FIRST THING ON OUR AGENDA IS OATH OF OFFICE.
IF YOU WOULD STAND, YOU PLEA AFTER ME.
DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES? DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO SUPPORT, SWEAR OR AFFIRM? AFFIRM.
THERE'S A LOT, AFFIRM AND SWEAR AND AFFIRM TO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF OHIO, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF OHIO, THE CHARTER IN ALL ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
THE CHARTER IN ALL ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
AND THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY, HONESTLY, AND IMPARTIALLY, AND THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY, HONESTLY, AND IMPARTIALLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITIES, DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITIES.
TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF.
UM, MY NAME'S MATT SCHAPER, UH, LIFELONG RESIDENT OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
UM, SON OF THE FIRST MAYOR OF HUBER HEIGHTS, RICHARD SCHAPER.
UM, MY WIFE AND I LIVE, UH, IN HUBER HEIGHTS.
HE'S, UH, ENGINEER FOR UNIVERSAL STUDIOS.
UH, AND I DO TEACH AT WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL HERE.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS OPENING REMARKS BY THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION, AND I HAVE NO OTHERS.
DOES ANYONE ELSE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION? WELCOME TO OUR WELCOME FOR OUR NEW MEMBER.
THIS IS THE TIME FOR APPROPRIATE, APPROPRIATE TIME FOR ANY CITIZENS' COMMENTS NOT PERTAINING TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA IN HEARING NOW, WE'LL MOVE ON WITH SWEARING OF WITNESSES.
I ANNOUNCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RULES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ANYONE WHO MAY WISH TO SPEAK OR GIVE TESTIMONY REGARDING THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN.
SO I ASK EVERYONE TO STAND, RAISE THEIR RIGHT HAND AND RESPOND.
TO THE FOLLOWING OATH, DO YOU HEREBY SWEAR OR AFFIRM ON THE THREAT OF PERJURY TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? I DO.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK TONIGHT WHEN THEY COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND SIGN IN ON THE SIGN IN SHEET.
PROVIDED WE HAVE NO PENDING BUSINESS, OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE NEW BUSINESS IS A REZONING, THE APPLICANT, SHERATON RENTALS, L C'S, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A REZONING FOR 6.686 ACRES FROM RESIDENTIAL R TWO TO INDUSTRIAL.
PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 41, OR, I'M SORRY, 43 41 TAYLORSVILLE ROAD CASE RZ 25 0 7.
MR. RELL, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, MR. SCHAPER, WELCOME.
SO THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST TO GO FROM R TWO TO I ONE DOWN THE STREET AT 43 41 TAYLORSVILLE ROAD.
IT IS 6.68 ACRES, CURRENTLY ZONED.
UM, THE SITE'S USED NOW FOR INDUSTRIAL STORAGE AND ASSORTED, UH, INDUSTRIAL USES.
UM, THE ZONING TO THE LAND, THE ADJACENT LANDS TO THE WEST IS I ONE, IT REALLY IS SURROUNDED BY ALL INDUSTRIAL LANDS.
UH, TO THE WEST IS I ONE TO THE NORTH, IS I 70, UH, TO THE EAST IS PLANNED INDUSTRIAL.
AND THEN THE SOUTH IS ALSO ZONED I ONE.
UM, SO I MENTIONED THE APPLICANT DOES SEEK TO REZONE THIS FROM R TWO TO I ONE.
THERE IS THE SITE LOCATION OUTLINED IN RED.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, BY AND LARGE, ALMOST ALL OF THE LAND SURROUNDING THIS SITE IS, IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL, UM, FROM, FOR THE MOST PART BRIDGEWATER, UM, OR AT LEAST THE HOMES BEHIND BRIDGEWATER, UH, HEADED OR WEST, UM, TO, TO RIP WRAP ROAD.
SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THIS REZONING TO FACILITATE USING THE EXISTING SITE FOR INDUSTRIAL PURPOSES.
UH, THE APPLICANT OWNS THE, THE ADJACENT INDUSTRIAL SITE AND LIKES TO EXPAND ITS INDUSTRIAL USE.
AS I MENTIONED, THE ADJACENT LANDS ARE ZONED AND USED FOR INDUSTRIAL PURPOSES.
UH, STAFF FEELS THIS REZONING IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS OWNED THE LAND TO THE EAST SINCE 2015, UH, AND RECENTLY ISH PURCHASED THIS PARCEL AROUND 2021.
UM, AS I SAID, THE UH, THE, THE USE RIGHT NOW IS CONSTRUCTION RELATED STORAGE AND THEN SOME OFFICE SPACE,
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UM, REZONING FROM R TWO TO I ONE WOULD MAKE THE PARCEL A CONFORMING USE UNDER THE ZONING CODE.UM, THIS REZONING WILL BE CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING, UH, LAND USES AND SURROUNDING ZONING DISTRICTS.
UH, STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE REZONING FURTHERS THE PUBLIC INTEREST AND, UH, IN SUPPORTING THE INDUSTRIAL GROWTH AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY.
THE CURRENT USE IS PERMITTED IN THE I ONE DISTRICT, UH, AND THE SITE CONFORMS TO ALL SETBACK AND HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITHOUT CONDITIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? AARON? UM, IF THIS GETS REZONED TO THE I ONE, IS THE EXISTING STRUCTURE THERE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE I ONE REQUIREMENTS? UM, SO THE APPLICANT, UH, HAS, UH, HAS INDICATED IN THEIR APPLICATION THAT THEY'LL EITHER CONVERT THIS TO OFFICES OR RAISE THE BUILDING.
YEAH, NO OTHER QUESTION, BUT IF IT WERE OFFICE, THAT WOULD BE PERFECTLY FINE.
MS. VARGO, UM, CAN YOU TELL ME THE ZONING OF THE PROPER, IT APPEAR TO BE RESIDENTIAL ON BRIDGEWATER.
THEY'RE WHAT? ZONED RESIDENTIAL TWO R TWO.
HAVE YOU HEARD FROM ANY OF THOSE FOLKS? NO.
UM, WHEN THIS PARCEL WAS REZONED YEARS AGO TO PLANNED INDUSTRIAL, UM, WE DID HEAR FROM THE, UM, FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
THEY, AND SO THERE IS A, A, A, UM, A BUFFER MOUNDING THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF THE EXPANSION OF THE PROPERTY TO THE, TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
BUT NO ONE HAS REACHED OUT TO US, UH, REGARDING THIS REZONING SINCE THE BUFFER HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
HAVE YOU HEARD FROM ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS? UH, WE HEARD FROM, UM, VIA A PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, MEMBER, UH, WE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO WERE CONCERNED ABOUT A S'S CONTRACTORS STAGING SOME OF THEIR, UM, UH, TRANSFORMERS AND EQUIPMENT THERE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT HAS KIND OF SPAWNED THIS REZONING.
SO A S'S CONTRACTORS HAVE BEEN STAGING SOME OF THEIR WORK TRUCKS HERE IN THE BACK IS, UH, AS THEY'RE DOING WORK IN THIS AREA.
CAN YOU SHOW ME WHERE, WHERE A BF IS? NO.
SO, UM, THE, THE, THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN ALLOWING A ES THE ELECTRIC COMPANY, I'M SORRY.
TO STAGE SOME OF THEIR, UH, WORK TRUCKS THERE.
AND THEY'VE BEEN DEPLOYING THEM 'CAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN BUSY IN HUBER HEIGHTS.
SO THIS IS A KIND OF A EASY LOCATION.
UM, BUT THE, UH, WE DID HEAR, UM, FROM THE, ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS, MAYBE EIGHT MONTHS, SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS AGO, UM, WHICH IS WHEN WE STARTED THE ENFORCEMENT ACTION AND REACHED OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER ABOUT THIS SITE.
UH, AND THAT HAS, WHAT HAS REALLY KIND OF SPAWNED THE REZONING APPLICATION IS TO BRING THAT SITE INTO CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING CODE.
I THINK MY ONLY CONCERN WOULD BE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON BRIDGEWATER.
I I REALLY BELIEVE THAT ALONG TAYLORSVILLE, THAT CERTAINLY HAS, UH, TURNED INTO AN INDUSTRIAL AREA AND IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
BUT I'M VERY CURIOUS TO KNOW THE NEIGHBORS WERE NOTIFIED ON BRIDGEWATER OR NOT.
DO YOU KNOW THEY WERE NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE OUTSIDE OF THE YEAH, I WAS AFRAID OF THAT OUTSIDE OF THE 200, UH, FOOT BUFFER BECAUSE YEAH.
UH, WOULD THAT, YEAH, I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE AND THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING THE QUESTIONS THAT I AM, I I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE INVOLVED, BUT PROBABLY NOT.
PROBABLY NOT BECAUSE IT IS, UM, THE SECOND.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU, SIR.
WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.
IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT? I MEAN, I CAN.
YOU JUST SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE.
UH, MY NAME IS TOM TOM DONAHUE.
AND IF YOU WOULD SPEAK UP, I DON'T HEAR TOO WELL.
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AGAIN, WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME, SIR? UM, IT'S, IT'S TOM DONAH HILL WITH, WITH SHERATON REYNOLDS.IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YEAH, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS RIGHT NOW FOR THE EXISTING STRUCTURE? ARE YOU LEANING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER OF SORT OF CHANGING IT INTO OFFICES OR RAISING THE BUILDING? I'M JUST CURIOUS.
I, I, I KIND, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE MAYBE MAKING SOME OFFICES OUT OF IT MM-HMM
UM, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED TO GET A PERMIT TO DEMOL IT EITHER, SO I'M KIND OF LIKE GOT IT TO, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, SIR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? MS. VARGA? HAVE YOU PERSONALLY SPOKEN TO ANY OF THE RESIDENTS ON BRIDGEWATER ABOUT THIS REZONING LATELY? NO, I HAVEN'T.
WHEN WE DID THE FIRST PIECE, I HAD, THE FIRST PIECE I HAD, SO, AND IT, DO YOU WANT ME TO TELL YOU WHAT THEY SAID? YES, YES.
YEAH, TELL ME, TELL ME EVERYTHING
WELL, REMEMBER YOU ASKED, THEY SAID THAT THEY WAS BASICALLY USING ME BECAUSE THEY WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THE CITY ABOUT A MULTITUDE OF THINGS.
AND THEY SAID IT WASN'T SO MUCH ME, BUT THAT WAS THEIR WAY, AND THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY TOLD ME.
THEY, THEY, AND THEY REITERATED IT TO ME OUT HERE IN THE PARKING LOT.
SO THEY WASN'T HAPPY WITH THE WAY THE CITIES THINGS ARE DONE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE REALLY, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THEY, THEY SAID THAT AT THAT TIME THE PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO THE WEST, THEY CREATED A LOT OF DUST AND IT COMES OVER ON THEIR HOUSE UHHUH.
BUT I THINK THAT SINCE WE GOT THE BUFFER UP, I THINK THAT'S HELPED.
YOU KNOW, SO, BUT I MEAN, IF I'M BEING HONEST, THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD ME.
THEY SAID IT'S NOT, IT WASN'T YOU, BUT YOU ARE A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, DRAW ATTENTION AND, AND BASICALLY HAVE A VOICE.
I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WAS THE ISSUE.
AND I'M WONDERING, UM, HOW MUCH PAVEMENT ARE YOU, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ON THIS PARTICULAR LOT? ANY IDEA? NO, NO, NO IDEA.
UH, THE DUST I THINK THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WAS THAT THEY HAVE A CRUSHER THAT MAKES CONCRETE INTO LIKE, AGGREGATE.
AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I ALWAYS THOUGHT REALLY, I, I THOUGHT THEY MAKE THAT MUCH DUST, BUT THEN I'VE BEEN OUT THERE A COUPLE TIMES WHEN THEY'RE USING IT AND IT DOES MAKE A FAIR AMOUNT.
AND I THINK WHEN THE TRUCKS COME IN AND OUT WAS THE ISSUE.
IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE ISSUE WITH WITH US OR NOT, BUT THE ISSUE THAT THEY HAD WITH THEM WAS WHEN IT WAS RUNNING THAT CRUSHER, LIKE IT WAS LIKE A DUST CLOUD AND IT GETS ON THEIR HOUSE.
BUT I THINK THAT WE PLANNED SOME ARBOR ITES AND, AND WE PUT A, A ZONE UP AND THERE, THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF DUST THAT COMES FROM THAT.
BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DUST ON A DUSTY ROAD, AREN'T YOU?
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, SIR.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK, SPEAK ON THIS ZONING CASE? WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION TO IT.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT? SHERATON REYNOLDS, LLC FOR APPROVAL OF A REZONING PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 43 41 TAYLORSVILLE ROAD, FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL NUMBER P 70 0 4 0 9 0 5 7 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP CASE RZ 25 0 7 IN ACCORDANCE WITH RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF'S MEMORANDUM IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECISIONS OR STAFF'S MEMORANDUM DATED MARCH 4TH, 2025 IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION RECORD ATTACHED THERE TO, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TERRY, MOVE BY MS. UH, THOMAS.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. CASSIDY? MR. SORELL, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE? YES.
UH, MS. CA OR MR. CASSIDY? YES.
WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, THE APPLICANT WILL, UM, APPLY FOR AND OBTAIN A ZONING CERTIFICATE AND, UM, WITH, UH, VOTE DON, UH, DON MILLARD.
AND, AND, OKAY, AARON, MATT NEEDS TO VOTE.
I I SAID THAT, BUT WE DID BEFORE OF US RIGHT,
NEXT ITEM ON THE, UH, AGENDA IS A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE APPLICANT, GRAY FOX CAPITAL, IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR CREEKSIDE WOODS, PHASE TWO COMPRISED OF 81 UNITS ON 9.4 ACRES.
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CHARLES GATE ROAD CASE DDP 25 DASH OH EIGHT, MR. SORELL.OKAY, SO THIS IS PHASE TWO OF, UM, A 159 UNIT TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT.
YOU APPROVED PHASE ONE OF THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN AT THE LAST MEETING.
UH, IT IS THE AREA IS ZONED PLANNED RESIDENTIAL.
WHAT'S, UH, IN QUESTION TODAY IS 9.4 ACRES.
THE ADJACENT LAND IS, UM, ZONED AGRICULTURE TO THE WEST R TWO AND R SIX TO THE NORTH.
UM, PLANNED PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS TO THE EAST.
AND UH, TO THE SOUTH IS ALSO ZONED AGRICULTURE.
UH, THIS IS THE SITE, UM, THE ACCESS TO THE EAST SIDE IS OFF OF CHARLES GATE.
THE ACCESS TO PHASE TWO, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT, IS OFF OF WILDCAT.
SO JUST TO REMIND, UH, THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, AFTER THE, UM, AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND THE WORK SESSION, UH, AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UH, COUNCIL HAD A WORK SESSION.
THE APPLICANT THEN, UH, UPDATED THE LANDSCAPE AND BUFFERING PLAN, UM, TO INCREASE THE BUFFERING ON THE, REALLY THE NORTHEAST SIDE, UH, THE NORTHEAST PARCELS BY ABOUT 40 FEET.
UM, THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS THEN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 10TH.
UH, AND NOW THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO GET APPROVAL FOR PHASE TWO, WHICH IS 81 OF THE 159 TOWN HOMES.
UH, THE SITE IS, HAS GOT SOME TOPOGRAPHY.
THERE'S A PRETTY STEEP RAVINE THAT BISECTS THE TWO DEVELOPMENT AREAS.
THERE'S ALSO A LARGE SANITARY SEWER THAT RUNS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE, OF THE SITE.
UM, THIS IS THE, THE LAYOUT, UH, THE, THE GENERAL SITE PLAN.
UH, WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE ALL THE HOMES ON THE WEST SIDE, EXCUSE ME, OF THE SITE.
THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UH, THESE WERE THE TOWN HOMES THAT THIS IS THE ELEVATION OF THE TOWN HOMES.
UH, AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND COUNCIL WORK SESSION, UH, THIS WAS THE AREA TO THE NORTHEAST THAT HAD THE INCREASED, UH, LANDSCAPING.
UH, AND SO THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL BY COUNSEL WAS EFFECTIVELY THAT THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UM, BE CONSISTENT WITH THIS REVISED LANDSCAPING PLAN.
UH, SO THESE, UH, PHASE TWO IS WHAT'S OUTLINED IN, UH, BLACK.
UH, REALLY ALL OF THE STORM WATER DRAINS TO THE, UH, UM, BASIN.
A, UH, THERE ARE SIDEWALKS ON ALL OF THE STREETS, UM, AS WAS, UH, REQUIRED OR REQUESTED BY CITY COUNCIL.
WILDCAT ALSO HAS A LARGE SETBACK BECAUSE THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INDICATES THAT WE AT SOME FUTURE POINT WANT TO PUT A, UH, A 14 MILE, UM, BIKE PATH AROUND OUR MULTI-USE TRAIL AROUND THE CITY.
WE THINK IT WILL COME IN SOMEWHERE ALONG THIS PART OF WILDCAT.
SO WE WANTED TO HAVE THE ROOM TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE.
SO THIS WILDCAT, UH, IS SET BACK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN, THAN IS TYPICAL.
ALL OF THE HOMES ARE, UH, SET BACK ABOUT, UH, 22 FEET FROM THE BACK OF THE SIDEWALK TO ALLOW FOR PARKING OF VEHICLES, UM, WITHOUT OVERHANGING INTO THE SIDEWALK.
ROADWAY WITS MEET, UM, FIRE, UH, DEPARTMENT REGULATIONS.
UH, THERE IS SOME OFF STREET PARKING FOR VISITORS.
THE, THE PARKING DOES MEET THESE ZONING CODE REQUIREMENTS.
UH, THIS, UH, IMAGE IS, IS TOUGH TO SEE, BUT JUST LIKE PHASE ONE, THE STREET TREE COUNT AND LANDSCAPING COUNT, UH, DOES MEET THE CODE.
ALTHOUGH, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS MOVED SOME OF THE TREES AROUND TO THE SIDES, UH, AND, AND TO THE BACK, UH, IN ORDER TO STAY OUT OF UTILITY EASEMENTS.
UH, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS APPROVED IN, UM, PHASE ONE.
JUST ANOTHER, UH, LOOK TO THE SOUTH.
UH, YOU CAN SEE, UH, STREET TREES REALLY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF, UH, ROAD B BECAUSE THERE ARE NO UTILITY EASEMENTS ON THAT NORTH, UH, NORTH SIDE.
THERE ARE LESS STREET TREES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET BECAUSE OF, OF A SANITARY, OR YEAH, A SANITARY SEWER EASEMENT THAT, THAT RUNS THROUGH BASICALLY THE FRONT YARDS.
THERE IS A, ON THIS PHASE, UH, ON THIS SECTION, THERE IS A PLANNED PRIVACY FENCE THAT WOULD
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SEPARATE THIS SECTION FROM THE PROPOSED CAMPGROUND BECAUSE, UH, THE CAMPGROUND IS PROPOSING, UM, BASICALLY COTTAGES THAT WOULD BACK UP TO THIS, UH, PROPERTY LINE.SO THEY ARE PROVIDING A PRIVACY FENCE TO BUFFER, UH, AND SCREEN, UM, FROM THAT, THAT CAM BROWN AREA.
UH, EVERYTHING ELSE, UM, IS VERY SIMILAR TO PHASE PHASE ONE.
UH, THIS IS THE, UH, ENTRY FEATURE THAT WOULD BE OFF A WILDCAT IN THE NORTH ROAD.
UM, YOU SAW THIS ON THE PHASE ONE, UM, SITE PLAN AS WELL.
SO THERE WERE, I BELIEVE, SIX CONDITIONS, UM, THAT WERE PART OF THE APPROVAL.
THE FIRST ONE DEALT WITH ASSESSING, UH, THE, THE TREES AND, AND PROTECTING AS MANY AS POSSIBLE.
UH, SIMILAR TO PHASE ONE, THE EROSION CONTROL PLAN THAT IS, THAT WERE IN INCLUDED IN THE PLANS DOES SHOW THE STREAM ENLARGED AREAS OF THE RAVINE WILL REMAIN UNDISTURBED.
UH, THE SECOND CONDITION WAS THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD WORK WITH STAFF TO DETERMINE FINAL STREET TREE PLACEMENT, UH, BECAUSE OF THESE UTILITY EASEMENTS.
UH, THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE PHASE TWO DOES SATISFY THE OVERALL STREET TREE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, ALTHOUGH, LIKE I SAID, THEY ARE CLUSTERED IN AREAS TO AVOID SANITARY SEWER, UH, EASEMENTS.
UH, THE THIRD CONDITION WAS THAT THE SIGNS CONFORM WITH, UM, CHAPTER 1189, WHICH IS OUR SIGN CODE.
THE MONUMENT SIGN DOES CONFORM TO CHAPTER 1189.
THE FOURTH CONDITION WAS THAT WATER AND SANITARY LINES BE PLACED IN PUBLIC EASEMENTS.
SO THE ROADS ARE PRIVATE, THE UTILITIES WILL BE PUBLIC, SO THEY WILL BE IN PUBLIC EASEMENTS.
UM, SO THEY ARE IN, UM, LIKE I SAID, AS IN PUBLIC EASEMENTS.
THE FIFTH, UH, FIFTH CONDITION WAS THE APPLICANT DEDICATING ADDITIONAL FRONTAGE, UH, OR RIGHT OF WAY TO US ALONG WILDCAT, UM, FOR THE PLANNED FUTURE, 10 TO 12 FOOT MUL WIDE MULTI-USE PATH.
THAT, UH, ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY IS INDICATED ON THE PLANS.
UH, AND THEN THE LAST CONDITION WAS THAT THE REVISED SITE PLAN SUBSTANTIALLY CONFORMED TO THE CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPE PLAN DATED NOVEMBER 20, UH, ONE, 2024.
AND THAT PHASE TWO REVISED, UH, THE SITE PLAN HERE AS BEING PROPOSED, UH, FOR PHASE TWO DOES SUBSTANTIALLY CONFORM TO THAT CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPE PLAN.
AS FAR AS CONFORMANCE WITH THE PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, TOWN HOMES ARE A PERMITTED USE.
UH, THE NET DENSITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS ABOUT SIX AND A HALF UNITS PER ACRE.
UM, THE INTERIOR BUILDING SETBACKS ARE 26 FEET FROM BACK OF THE CURB, OR 22 FEET FROM BACK OF THE SIDEWALK TO REDUCE OVERHANG FROM, UM, VEHICLES.
SO THEY'RE NOT BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK, THE, EXCUSE ME, THE WILDCAT, UH, STREET BUILDING SETBACKS ARE 30 FEET, UH, AND THE MINIMUM SPACING BETWEEN BUILDINGS IS, IS 25 FEET.
AS FAR AS PARKING AND LOADING.
PHASE TWO HAS, UH, DOES HAVE TWO SPACES PER UNIT PER, UH, AS IS REQUIRED BY CODE PLUS SIX ADDITIONAL SPACES FOR VISITORS.
UM, THE LANDSCAPING PLAN DOES MEET THE INTENT OF THE ZONING CODE.
AND I MENTIONED, I TALKED ABOUT STREET TREES ALREADY BEING OUTSIDE OF THE UTILITY EASEMENTS.
THE BUILDING DESIGN AND MATERIALS.
THE BUILDING MATERIALS, IT'S THE SAME BUILDER IN PHASE TWO AS IT WAS IN PHASE ONE.
UM, SO THOSE BUILDING MATERIALS WERE APPROVED IN PHASE ONE.
THE FIRE, AGAIN, JUST AS A, THIS IS THE SAME CONCEPT OF THE TOWNHOUSE UNITS.
UM, FIRE, UH, DEPARTMENT HAS REQUESTED NO PARKING SIGNS ON INTERIOR STREETS THAT HAVE, THAT REALLY HAVE, UM, FIRE HYDRANTS.
UH, THEY DO BELIEVE OR FEEL THAT ONE ADDITIONAL HYDRANT MAY BE NEEDED ON WILDCAT.
AND THE APPLICANT IS, UM, UM, WHAT'S THE WORD, AMENDING THEIR, UH, UTILITY PLANS ACCORDINGLY.
UH, THE CITY ENGINEER, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY ADDRESSED, UH, THEIR CONCERNS PRIOR TO SUBMISSION.
UM, SO STAFF SUPPORTS THE APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION, UH, THAT WAS SUBMITTED ON FEBRUARY 5TH.
UH, IT'S OUR OPINION THAT SECTION 11 71 0 6 CAN BE MET AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE FOLLOWING TWO CONDITIONS, THAT THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING MATERIAL SHALL BE THOSE APPROVED IN THE PHASE ONE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UH, AND TWO, THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH, UH, ALL FIRE DEPARTMENT REQUIREMENTS.
QUESTIONS OF ME? ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MS. BARGO? I HAVE A FEW.
YOU MENTIONED THE OFF STREET PARKING? YES.
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IT'S SIX SPACES, IS THAT PER UNIT OR SIX SPACES TOTAL FOR THE WHOLE AREA? UM, SIX SPACES, SIX DEDICATED SPACES FOR PHASE TWO, THERE ARE, I BELIEVE THERE WERE 20, UH, ADDITIONAL SPACES.SO HERE, UH, ON STREET B, WHICH IS THE SOUTH, UH, EDGE HERE, THESE ARE THE FIVE DEDICATED SPACES, THE 5, 6, 6 DEDICATED VISITOR SPACES.
UH, HERE, UH, THERE IS ALSO, IF I GO BACK, YOU CAN SEE, UM, ON THE NORTH THERE ARE ADDITIONAL SPACES ON THE NORTH SIDE, WHICH WERE TECHNICALLY IN PHASE ONE, BUT UM, IT STILL REALLY SERVES PHASE TWO.
THERE IS ALSO ROOM, OOPS, EXCUSE ME.
THERE WOULD BE ROOM TO PARK HERE, UH, ON, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET.
'CAUSE THERE ARE NO DRIVEWAYS, UM, WITHOUT INTERFERING WITH ANY FIRE HYDRANTS OR ANY OF THAT.
SO THERE IS, UH, OVERFLOW AREA PLUS WILDCAT.
BUT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I THINK YOU SAID THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDED NO STREET PARKING ONLY IN AREAS WHERE THERE ARE FIRE, FIRE HYDRANTS.
YEAH, THAT, WELL, I, I'LL CLARIFY THAT, BUT THAT WAS THE EMAIL I BELIEVE THAT, UH, REGINA SENT TO ME.
I I, I JUST WANNA BE SURE THERE'S ENOUGH PARKING THERE.
UM, YOU MENTIONED THE CAMPGROUND OPPOSED SOMETHING AND I MISSED THAT.
UH, THEY DIDN'T OPPOSE ANYTHING.
UM, THE PER THEY ARE, SO IT'S TOUGH TO SEE HERE, BUT WHERE THIS SAYS CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPING PLAN RIGHT HERE AT THE BOTTOM, UHHUH
UH, AND SO WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING IS BASICALLY A PRIVACY FENCE ALONG THIS SOUTH LINE, UH, TO SEPARATE THE TOWN HOMES FROM THE PROPOSED COTTAGES.
AND, AND THAT'S BEEN AGREED TO OR THAT'S JUST A, A REQUEST? IT IT, WELL, IT'S, IT'S A, THE DEVELOPER IS GONNA, THIS DEVELOPER WILL BUILD IT.
IT'S NOT, IT'LL BE ON THEIR LAND.
IT'S NOT PART OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO RECOMMEND.
AND EXACTLY WHAT DOES IT SAY? UM, SO LET ME BASICALLY FROM HERE, UHHUH TO HERE, RIGHT? GIVE OR TAKE UHHUH.
THIS APPLICANT IS GONNA BUILD A PRIVACY FENCE ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND, UH, DO WE HAVE A SAY SO OR HAVE THEY INDICATED WHAT TYPE OF PRIVACY FENCE THEY WANT? YEAH, I MEAN THEY WANT A CHAIN LINK.
DO THEY WANT WIRE FENCE? WHAT IT IS? UM, SHOW IT TO YOU.
IT IS A SEVEN FOOT TALL, AH, BOARD ON BOARD FENCE.
AND IS IT ACTUALLY BOARD OR IS IT VINYL? I BELIEVE IT'S VINYL.
AND IS THERE A COLOR TO IT? THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
UM, IT WASN'T SPECIFIED IN THE PLANS.
WHERE WILL THE MONUMENT SIGN GO AND WHAT OTHER SIGNS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? 'CAUSE IT WAS PLURAL.
SO HERE AT THE TOP WHERE THIS X IS OR THE STAR UHHUH, THAT IS THE MONUMENT SIGN.
AND THAT'S PHASE ONE? UH, PHASE ONE IS OVER HERE.
WELL, YEAH, THEY'RE BUILT, THEY'RE BOTH BUILT AT THE SAME TIME.
SO THERE'S A MONUMENT SIGN OFF OF CHARLES GATE UHHUH, AND THEN THERE'S A MONUMENT SIGN OFF OF WILDCAT.
AND OTHER THAN STREET SIGNS, THAT'S THE ONLY SIGNAGE.
AND THE OTHER SIGNS ARE WHAT? JUST STREET SIGNS AND ADDRESS SIGNS.
HOW DEEP IS THAT AND IS THERE ANY CHANCE OF IT FLOODING THERE? IT UM, SO, UM, THE ANSWER TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION IS, I DON'T KNOW, UH, HOW DEEP IT IS, BUT, UH, IT IS, IT WILL PERIODICALLY FLOOD, BUT UM, IT IS A DEEP RAVINE.
OR, AND IMPACT, EXCUSE ME, ANY OF, ANY OF, WHOOPS, LEMME GO BACK.
IT WILL NOT IMPACT ANY OF THESE, ANY OF THESE BUILDINGS.
THE, THE CHANNEL IN THE RAVINE IS, IS SUBSTANTIALLY
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DEEP, SO NO, NO.UH, ALRIGHT, WE'RE DOING PHASE TWO NOW.
IT, IT, IT'S, UH, STRANGE TO ME THAT THEY'RE DOING BACK DOING A BACK TO BACK, BUT, OH, THIS IS PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR THE, FOR THE DEVELOPER, BUT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WILL THEY START PHASE TWO? EXCUSE ME.
UM, SO WE, UM, THEY, THEY HAVE INDICATED TO US THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO START PHASE TWO, UM, LATER THIS SUMMER.
THEY, THEY, THEY WANT TO GET MOVING.
WELL, WHY DIDN'T THEY PUT IT ALL TOGETHER AND HAVE IT JUST ONE.
I THINK THAT'S THE APPLICANT'S HERE, BUT I THINK THAT'S KIND OF JUST THE ORDER THAT THE ENGINEER GOT DONE WITH THE PLANS WHEN THEY WERE PUTTING THE PLANS TOGETHER.
UM, THAT, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.
AARON, CAN YOU REMIND ME AGAIN ON CHARLES GATE THAT'S GOING TO BASICALLY GO INTO THE CAMPGROUND, RIGHT? SO THERE WILL BE NO EXTENSION OUT TO WILDCAT? CORRECT.
IT WAS COST PROHIBITIVE TO BASICALLY CREATE A BRIDGE.
UM, IT, IT WILL BE CUL-DE-SAC, SO YOU CAN SEE HERE IT WILL BE CUL-DE-SAC AT THE END FOR, UM, JUST EASIER VEHICLE TURNAROUND.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS THE CAMPGROUND GOES, THIS IS, UH, EMERGENCY EXIT ONLY.
UM, I THINK A COUPLE OF THINGS I WOULD MENTION IS, DO YOU, WELL, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA ON THE TIMING OF THE IMPROVEMENTS TO WILDCAT ROAD? UM, IS IT GONNA COINCIDE WITH SORT OF THE CONSTRUCTION HERE OR DO YOU EXPECT IT TO COME LATER? N NO, THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO DO IT ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
I THINK THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY FROM THE CITY'S STANDPOINT IS, UH, KELLENBERGER ROAD YES.
UM, AND SO I THINK IF WE'RE LOOKING AT ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, THAT SHOULD BE A ROAD WE SHOULD LOOK AT BASED ON THIS DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE SOME LEVEL OF TRAFFIC GOING OUT TO WILDCAT AND OUT KELLENBERGER.
AND THAT'S A PRETTY CHALLENGING ROAD RIGHT NOW WITH, UM, THE LEVEL OF BRUSH ON ONE SIDE AND THEN JUST THE NARROWNESS OF THE PAVEMENT IN, IN AND OF ITSELF.
UH, ONE, WE ARE GONNA PUT THIS IN A TIF DISTRICT, UH, SO THAT THIS WILL GENERATE REVENUE FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
I'VE DIRECTED THE CITY ENGINEER TO BEGIN DESIGN OF KELLENBERGER TO, TO POTENTIALLY WIDEN IT.
UM, WHAT I WILL SAY IS KELLENBERGER IS A VERY BEAUTIFUL ROAD WITH THOSE MATURE TREES, UH, AND WIDENING THAT WILL CHANGE THE FEEL OF THAT SUBSTANTIALLY.
SO MY, MY RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL WAS LET'S PLAN FOR IT.
LET'S START TO SAVE MONEY FOR IT, HAVE THE PLANS READY TO GO, UM, BUT MONITOR THE TRAFFIC TO SEE IF IT REALLY IS, UH, AS BIG OF A CHALLENGE AS AS OKAY AS WE THINK.
I MEAN, BECAUSE I THINK ONCE WE WIDEN IT, I MEAN, WE'LL CLEAN IT UP, BUT IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS TO CALLEN BERGER WITHOUT SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGING THE FEEL OF THAT RURAL ROAD.
I I WILL SAY THAT THE BENEFIT TO THE CITY IS THERE'S ONLY TWO LANDOWNERS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF CALLENBURG.
SO IF YOU NEEDED TO WIDEN IT, THAT'S PROBABLY THE, THE BEST PLACE TO DO IT.
AND THEN THERE WILL NO, THERE, THERE IS NO EXIT TO KELLENBERGER FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS OWNED BY SOMEONE ELSE.
THERE ARE THREE PROPERTY OWNERS, YES.
THIS DOES NOT GO ALL THE WAY TO KELLENBERGER.
UM, LEMME TALK ABOUT THE, THE LIGHTING, UM, EXPOSURE TO THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH.
DO YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S ADEQUATE, UM, TREE PLACEMENT THERE TO PREVENT ANY KIND OF LIGHT EXPOSURE INTO THOSE LIGHT INTRUSION INTO THE NORTHERN PROPERTIES? I KNOW THEY'RE A LITTLE FAR OFF THE PROPERTY LINE, BUT YEAH, LET ME GO BACK HERE.
SEE IF I, SO REALLY THE ONLY, LIKE HOMES ARE ON THIS NORTHEAST SIDE MM-HMM
AND THIS IS ABOUT A FOOTBALL FIELD DISTANCE AWAY.
UM, SO YEAH, I'M NOT, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
AND THE ONLY LIGHTS THAT THERE WOULD BE, UM, WOULD BE BACK PORCH LIGHTS.
SO THERE'S NO STREET LIGHTING ON THOSE.
THERE'S NO STREET LIGHTS THAT'LL IMPACT THOSE NORTHERN UM, PROPERTIES.
UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE FENCE FACING THE CAMPGROUND, IT'S LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOUT SEVEN FEET.
I MEAN, THESE ARE TWO STORY TOWN HOMES.
DO YOU THINK A SEVEN FOOT FENCE IS GONNA BE ADEQUATE GIVEN THE SETBACKS, UM, HERE, OR DO YOU THINK THAT THE SEVEN FOOT MAY NOT BE QUITE AS PRIVATE AS WE WOULD HOPED? UM, I THINK THAT THE SEVEN FOOT IS, IS ADEQUATE WHEN WE GET MUCH TALLER THAN THAT, THEN YOU START CASTING SHADOWS ON THE OTHER SIDE AND YOU REALLY LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF VEGETATION THAT COULD BE GROWN ON ONE SIDE OF THE FENCE OR THE OTHER.
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UM, SO I THINK, I THINK THE SEVEN FOOT IS, IS ADEQUATE.AND I KNOW THERE IS A BIT OF SETBACK THERE, SO THERE IS, WE HAVEN'T, UM, THE CAMPGROUND FINAL PHASE FOR THAT.
THE, UM, CABINS HASN'T BEEN FINALIZED YET, SO THERE'S STILL ROOM TO PLAY WITH THAT A LITTLE BIT.
AND THEN I THINK MY LAST COMMENT WOULD BE, AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT, KIND OF GOING BACK TO THE DUST CONCERN THAT WE HAD JUST TALKED ABOUT IN THE PRIOR MATTER, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A FAIRLY LARGE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A STONE COMPANY OR GRAVEL AREA JUST TO THE WEST OF THERE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE CONSIDERED ANY OF THAT OR IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE DOING ALONG WILDCAT TO PREVENT ANY KIND OF DUST INTRUSION INTO THIS AREA.
SO, UM, THE, THE APPLICANT DID DO A BASICALLY A, A WIND STUDY, UH, AND THE WAY THAT THE STONE CORE IS WORKING IS, IS IT'S MOVING ITS WAY NORTH, UH, AND THE PREVAILING WINDS BY AND LARGE PUSH NORTHEAST.
UM, SO IT, UH, IF IT WERE STARTING AT THE SOUTHERN END AND MOVING NORTH, I WOULD BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
BUT BY AND LARGE, AS THIS QUARRY BUILDS OUT, IT'S GOING TO GO UP, UH, GO NORTHWARD, WHICH SHOULD REMOVE, YOU KNOW, BESIDES THE TRUCK TRAFFIC, BUT, BUT AS FAR AS THE TUB GRINDER AND THE, AND THE ROCK CRUSHING MACHINES, THAT DUST WILL, WILL BE NORTH OF THIS.
BUT THERE WILL BE TRUCK TRAFFIC ON WILDCAT SURE.
THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION, BUT IT MIGHT BE FOR THE DEVELOPER.
UM, YOU SAID PRIVATE STREETS, SO I CAN ASSUME HOA.
UM, AND THEN THE ENTRYWAY IN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE ENTRYWAY IN AND OUT LOOK LIKE? CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT AND LIKE, IS IT JUST ONE ROAD IN ONE ROAD OUT, OR ARE WE DOING, WHAT IS THAT, HOW IS THAT BEING BUILT INTO EACH PHASE? OH, SO THERE ARE TWO, TWO ROADS IN, TWO ROADS OUT.
SO THERE'S A, A NORTHERN ROAD IN ON PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO, SOUTHERN AND NORTHERN.
IT'S BASICALLY A LOOP ROAD, UH, ON, ON PHASE TWO.
AND THEY DON'T CONNECT AT ALL TO EACH, DO THEY CONNECT AT ALL TO EACH OTHER? NO.
SO YOU HAVE TO, IF YOU GET INTO PHASE ONE, YOU HAVE TO, YOU CAN'T GET TO PHASE TWO.
YOU COULD WALK ACROSS, THERE WILL BE A, UH, PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE ON THE NORTH SIDE TO US, NO DRIVING, BUT, UM, NO, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DRIVE AROUND.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I DO.
UM, HE JUST REMINDED ME OF THE, UM, UH, THE TRUCK TRAFFIC.
HAS THAT, HAS THAT BEEN LOOKED AT? IS THAT GONNA BE AN ISSUE AT ALL? THE DEVELOPER HAS LOOKED AT IT.
HE DID NOT, THEY DID NOT FEEL THAT IT WOULD BE, UH, DETRIMENTAL TO SALES.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TRUCKS A DAY GO UP? WILDCAT? I, I DO NOT KNOW.
I DO NOT HAVE A COUNT FOR THAT.
WE DID NOT REQUIRE A TRAFFIC STUDY BECAUSE THERE, THIS ISN'T GONNA GENERATE THAT MUCH TRAFFIC IN GENERAL.
AND WILDCAT IS PAVED, THE ENTIRE WILDCAT IS PAVED.
IT WILL BE IMPROVED, UH, FROM WHERE IT IS, AT LEAST ALONG THEIR FRONTAGE, IT WILL BE IMPROVED, BUT IT IS PAVED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU, SIR.
WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT? HI, MY NAME IS JAKE SHIELDS, UH, GRAY FOX CAPITAL, UH, 6 1 6 1 OAK STREET BOULEVARD IN INDEPENDENCE, OHIO.
UH, I WANNA THANK YOU, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. CHAIRMAN AND UH, STAFF FOR, UH, TAKING THIS TIME TO REVIEW THIS SITE.
AND I ALSO JUST WANT TO QUICKLY JUST SAY A THANK YOU TO AARON.
HE HAS BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL IN THIS ENTIRE PROCESS AND, UH, HAS JUST BEEN A TREMENDOUS, UH, HELP FOR US AND, AND NAVIGATING THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND, UH, WE REALLY ARE, UH, APPRECIATIVE TO HIM.
SO, UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS JUST A PHASE, THE SECOND PHASE OF THE PROJECT, BUT, UM, I KNOW, UH, SPECIFIC SINCE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE TRUCK TRAFFIC, UH, I WAS JUST OUT THERE ACTUALLY THIS, UH, EARLIER TODAY.
UH, I, I SAW WHEN I WAS WALKING AROUND, I MEAN, IT WAS PROBABLY, IF I HAD TO GUESS, I MEAN, I SAW, I SAW THREE TRUCKS WHEN I WAS THERE FOR ABOUT THREE HOURS.
UH, THEY ALL KIND OF JUST, OR MAYBE TWO HOURS, THEY KIND OF WENT AT THE SAME TIME AND THEN THAT WAS ABOUT IT.
UM, SO IF I HAD TO GUESS IT WAS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 20 TRUCKS A DAY IS, IS MY GUESS, BUT I AM NOT, I'M NOT TOO POSITIVE ON THAT.
UM, WE DID TALK WITH OUR, WITH THE, THE HOME BUILDER AND, AND, AND I BELIEVE THEY HAD SPOKEN WITH ALSO THE QUARRY AS WELL.
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UM, BUT THEY'RE, THEY ARE NOT AT ALL CONCERNED BY THIS.UH, THEY HAVE BUILT NEXT TO OTHER QUARRIES AS WELL.
UH, SALES HAVE NOT BEEN HINDERED AND, UH, SO THEY'RE VERY MUCH, UM, IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT.
YOU'VE NOT ACTUALLY DONE A TRAFFIC STUDY THOUGH? UH, WE DID NOT, WE DID NOT COMPLETE A TRAFFIC STUDY, NO.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE STREAM, UH, AS AARON MENTIONED TOO, VERY DEEP RAVINE REALLY DROPS DOWN.
UM, SO, AND THEN, AND THEN THE ACTUAL STREAM ITSELF IS, IS PRETTY PRETTY, UH, I WOULD SAY ABOUT THREE FEET DEEP ON AVERAGE.
UH, SO IT, TO BE ABLE TO FLOOD ANY OF THESE HOMES WOULD BE, WOULD BE QUITE A, A FEAT TO, TO ACCOMPLISH.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD.
I NEED TO ASK ABOUT THE, THE STREAM.
UH, IS THERE ANY, IS, IS FLOOD INSURANCE GOING TO BE REQUIRED? NO.
YOU DON'T THINK THERE'LL ANY PROBLEM WITH FLOODING? I REALLY, NO.
THAT TAKES CARE OF MY QUESTIONS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, SIR.
UH, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR, FOR TAKING THE TIME TO DO THIS.
UM, THE CITY HAS BEEN A WONDER TO WORK WITH, UH, JUST VERY APPRECIATIVE OF, OF YOU ALL AND OF CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF.
UM, IT IS, IT IS A, HAS BEEN A, A, A BREATH OF FRESH AIR
ARE THESE ALL RENTALS OR ARE THEY ALL ALL FOR SALE? THEY'RE ALL FOR SALE.
THEY'RE ALL FOR SALE AND IT, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T, UM, WE CAN'T PREVENT SOMEONE FROM BUYING IT AND THEN RENTING IT OUT.
BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE RENTING THESE, UH, WE'LL BE SELLING THESE TO, TO HOME BUYERS.
UH, THE AVERAGE SALE PRICE, AT LEAST FROM THE BUILDER STATED TO US IS AROUND 305,000.
AND HOW MANY BEDROOMS ARE THEY? WHAT, TWO TO FOUR? I BELIEVE THEY ARE TH I THINK THEY'RE THREE BEDROOMS. TWO AND THREE.
WITH A, WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, MAIN SUITE BEING ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
AND DO SOME OF 'EM HAVE TWO CAR GARAGE? UH, THEY'RE ALL SINGLE CAR GARAGE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ZONING CASE IN HEARING? NO ONE.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT? GRAY FOX CAPITAL FOR AN APPROVAL FOR A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN? PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 54 25 CHARLES GATE ROAD, FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL NUMBER P 71 9 2 4 0 0 0 3 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP CASE DDP 25 DASH OH EIGHT IN ACCORD WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF'S MEMORANDUM DATED MARCH 4TH, 2025, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION RECORD ATTACHED THERE TO OBJECTION, MOVED BY MS. THOMAS.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
UM, MR. RA, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? YES.
WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, THE APPLICANT WILL REVISE SITE PLANS, UH, ACCORDINGLY AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, UH, WITH BUILDING PERMITS.
YOU HAVE, WE HAVE NO, UH, ADDITIONAL BUSINESS.
UM, NEXT THING ON THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES WITHOUT OBJECTION.
THE MINUTES OF THE FEBRUARY 11TH, 2025 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WILL BE APPROVED.
UH, RE REPORTS AND CALENDAR REVIEW.
UM, AT THIS TIME WE HAVE NO APPLICATIONS FOR THE APRIL MEETING, SO, UM, WE WILL, WE WILL SEE IF ONE, UH, SHOWS UP IN THE NEXT, UH, COUPLE DAYS, BUT, UH, RIGHT NOW WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE AN APRIL MEETING.
WHAT DATE'S THE CUTOFF FOR ENTER FOR, UH, APPLICATION? I'M PROBABLY MORE GENEROUS THAN I SHOULD BE, UM, BUT, UH, ABOUT, UH, THE 27TH OR 28TH OF MARCH.
UM, COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
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IN THE PAPER WHERE BUCKY'S HAS, HAS OFFICIALLY SAID THAT THE OPENING WILL NOT TAKE PLACE AS PLANNED.CORRECT? UM, UH, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE MOVED THE OPENING TO LATE APRIL OF, UH, SPRING OF 26.
AND HOW IS HAS THE OTHER ONE WAWA COMING ALONG? THEY HAVE, UH, RESTARTED THEIR SITE WORK.
UM, SO THAT SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD.
THEY HAD, THEY RAN INTO SUBSTANTIAL LIMESTONE, UM, AND HAD TO RELOCATE THEIR, UM, STORM DETENTION AREA.
BUT OTHERWISE THEY HAVE INDICATED TO US THAT THEY ARE NOW MOVING FORWARD FULL STEAM AHEAD.
THEY'RE ABOUT FIVE MONTHS BEHIND SCHEDULE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER BUILDERS THAT YOU CAN BRING US UP TO DATE ON? UM, WE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENTS ON EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD THAT YOU'VE APPROVED? UM, I BELIEVE REVERB SHOULD BREAK GROUND, UM, NOW AROUND JUNE.
UH, AND THEN, EXCUSE ME, THE, UM, PRIDE ONE DEVELOPMENT THAT, UH, YOU, THE FIRST PHASE, THE TOWN HOMES, THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE FULL ENGINEERING, UH, PLANS ON THAT.
SO, UH, WE SHOULD HOPEFULLY SEE THAT BREAK GROUND LATER THIS SUMMER AS WELL.
UM, THE WAVERLY PLACE THAT YOU APPROVED A LONG TIME AGO, UM, THEIR ENGINEERS HAVE REENGAGED US.
UM, AND SO THAT DEVELOPMENT, UM, WE'RE HOPEFUL WILL, UH, GET MOVING.
AND THOSE ARE THE THREE BIG ONES THAT STICK IN MY HEAD.
ARE THERE ANY OF THEM THAT WE HAVE APPROVED THAT ARE NOT GONNA HAPPEN THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF? UH, I'M GONNA SAY NO.
BUT THERE MIGHT BE ONE OR TWO THAT POP IN THAT I DON'T REMEMBER.
BUT YEAH, NO, THERE'S NO, NO LARGE PROJECTS THAT WE THOUGHT WAS GONNA MOVE FORWARD AND IS, AND IS NO LONGER MOVING FORWARD THAT YOU'VE SEEN.
AND, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE ONE COMMENT AND THAT'S THAT I NOTICE THAT ALMOST EVERY MEETING ONE OF THE APPLICANT'S COMMENTS ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU HAVE HELPED THEM AND WHAT A GOOD JOB YOU DO.
AND I WANNA THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU CERTAINLY HELP US BEING SO THOROUGH AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
SECOND THAT I'D LIKE TO PERSONALLY THANK MR. DAVE CASSIDY FOR HIS SERVICE HERE ON THE BOARD.
THIS EVENING IS HIS LAST, HIS LAST, UH, GO ROUND LAST TIME HERE WITH US.
SO REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND I, UH, I HOPE, UH, WHATEVER YOU GOT GOING ON IN THE FUTURE IS, IS WHAT YOU WANNA DO.
THIS HAS BEEN, UH, JUST AN AWESOME GROWTH EXPERIENCE FOR ME AND, AND JUST AN AWESOME EXPERIENCE OVERALL.
UH, IT'S BEEN JUST FANTASTIC TO, TO LEARN A LOT, UH, TO GET TO SIT WITH PEOPLE WHO REALLY, GENUINELY CARE ABOUT THIS CITY AND WHAT'S HAPPENING, UH, AND, AND ALL THE, UM, GOOD EFFORT THAT YOU GUYS PUT INTO MAKING SURE THAT WHAT WE DO HERE MAKES SENSE.
SO, UH, REALLY THANKFUL FOR SERVANTS LIKE YOU THAT COME OUT AND DO THIS OF YOUR OWN ACCORD AND, AND PUT TONS OF EFFORT INTO IT AND, AND MAKE THE CITY BETTER.
DEFINITELY MISS YOUR INPUT, SO THANK YOU.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO BRING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION? WE ARE ADJOURNED.