Feb 10, 2025 City Council Meeting

[2. Invocation - Pastor Randy Griffith Of The Free Methodist Church At 6875 Old Troy Pike, Huber Heights, Ohio]

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SAY A PRAYER . >> ABOUT ISRAEL AND JERUSALEM AND REALLY ABOUT ANY CITY, GOD SAYS THROUGH THE PROPHET ISAIAH , FOR ISRAEL'S SAKE, I WILL NOT KEEP SILENT AND FOR JERUSALEM 'S SAKE I WILL NOT REMAIN QUIET . UNTIL RIGHTEOUSNESS SHINES OUT LIKE THE DAWN FOR SALVATION LIKE A BLAZING TORCH. THE NATIONS WILL SEE YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS AND ALL KINGS YOUR AUTHORITY. YOU WILL BE CALLED BY A NEW NAME THAT THE MOUTH OF THE LORD WILL BESTOW. YOU SEE, THERE IS NATIONS AND CITIES AND THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE UP NATIONS AND CITIES AND THEN THERE IS WHAT THEY ARE MEANT TO BE. GOD IS SAYING HERE , I HAVE WAITED LONG ENOUGH . I WILL REMAIN QUIET NO LONGER. UNTIL RIGHTEOUSNESS SHINES OUT LIKE THE DAWN . RIGHTEOUSNESS IS BEING RIGHT AND DOING RIGHT . GOD AND HIS WORD BEING THE STANDARD FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS . UNTIL HER SALVATION IS LIKE A BLAZING TORCH. SALVATION BEING RESCUED FROM A DANGEROUS CIRCUMSTANCE OR HARMFUL CONDITION BY A SAVIOR AND THAT SAVIOR IS CHRIST. SO, THAT THE NATIONS WILL SEE YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS AND ALL KINGS YOUR GLORY . SO THAT ALL WILL SEE THE RIGHTEOUSNESS AND GLORY OF GOD THROUGH THOSE NATIONS AND CITIES AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN RESCUED AND MADE RIGHTEOUS THROUGH CHRIST. YOU WILL BE CALLED BY A NEW NAME AT THE MOUTH OF THE LORD . A NEW NAME THAT REFLECTS A CHANGE IN CHARACTER HER , THE CHARACTER THAT NOW REFLECTS THE NATURE OF GOD. NO LONGER CALLED BY OUR OLD NAME , RELATING TO OUR OLD CORRUPTIBLE NATURE BUT BY OUR NEW NAME WHICH RELATES TO THE NEW SELF CREATED TO BE LIKE GOD IN TRUE RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HOLINESS THROUGH FAITH IN CHRIST. A NAME GIVEN BY GOD. LET'S PRAY . FATHER, LET US NOT REMAIN ONLY AS WE ARE AS A NATION AND THE CITY AND THE PEOPLE. BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE MEANT TO BE , WHAT YOU HAVE ALWAYS WANTED US TO BE , TO BE MADE LIKE YOU IN TRUE RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HOLINESS. SO THAT THE WORD MAY -- WORLD MAY SEE WHO YOU ARE BY WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO. FATHER , BY YOUR SPIRIT DIRECT THE WORK OF THIS MEETING TONIGHT . WE THANK YOU

IN CHRIST'S NAME, AMEN . >> AMEN. >> RANDY GRIFFITH , PASTOR ,

[3. Pledge Of Allegiance]

SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED STATES ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH

[4. Roll Call]

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> MS. BAKER. >> MISTER CAM MISTER LOONEY .

>> MRS. KITCHEN . >> MISTER WEBB . >> PRESENT.

>> LET'S ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO EXCUSE THE MAYOR'S ABSENCE. >> I MAKE A MOTION.

>> I SECOND . >> MS. BAKER . >> YES .

>> MR. CAMPBELL ? >> MRS. DAVIDSON . >> YES .

>> MISTER WEBB , >> MISTER DAVISON. >> YES . THE MOTION PASSES 8-0 .

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>> WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECONSIDER FROM THE JUNE 27TH MEETING WHEN

WE CONSIDER A VOTE FOR DON'S EXCUSE ? >> TONY, IS THERE ANYTHING WE

NEED TO DO WITH THE AGENDA? DO WE NEED TO AMEND THAT . >> ON THE MOTION THAT MISTER AKINS HAS MADE , IF APPROVED, THERE IS NEXT MOTION TO EXCUSE THE ABSENCE .

>> OF MOTION FROM DOCTOR FRED TO RECONSIDER DON WEBB'S ABSENCE FROM JANUARY 27?

>> RYAN SECONDS THAT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? >> MAYBE ? TONY, PLEASE CALL THE

ROLE . >> CAMPBELL >> MISTER WEBB ?

>> YES . >> MISTER DAVIDSON? >> YES .

>> MS. BAKER . >> THE MOTION PASSES BY 8-0 . TONY, WE HAVE -- YES ?

>> NOW YOU NEED TO MOTION TO ACTUALLY EXCUSE . >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY DOCTOR

FRED. ANITA? >> SECOND . >> THERE IS A SECOND, ANY

DISCUSSION? >> TONY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >>

[5. Approval Of Minutes]

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>> THERE ARE NO MINUTES FOR APPROVAL . >> OKAY, SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENTS .

CITIZEN COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS? >> WE HAVE THE PERFECT TRIFECTA

[8. City Manager Report]

, THERE ARE NONE . >> WE ARE AT EIGHT AND JOHN RUSSELL, CITY MANAGER, PLEASE

REPORT . >> ACQUITTAL COUPLE OF QUICK REMINDERS. A REMINDER THAT WE ARE HAVING THE ART EXHIBIT THIS SATURDAY ON THE 15TH THAT THE COMMUNITY CENTER FROM 1:00-5:00.

WE HAD PEOPLE ONLINE SUBMIT FOR THAT. AGAIN , SATURDAY THE 15TH THAT THE COMMUNITY CENTER WILL BE OUR ART SHOW. ON SUNDAY, THE 16TH, IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE AT 3:00 P.M. AT THE DAYTON SONIC TEMPLE WE WILL HAVE THE GIRLS DOWN THERE WITH THE DANCE TEAM. IF WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND THAT, THE ARTS INFORMATION IS ON THE WEBSITE. IT JUST POSTED THIS PAST COUPLE OF DAYS DOWN THE SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL. ONE TOPIC THAT I WATCHED A COUPLE OF THINGS ONLINE AND BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY STAFF TODAY. I DIDN'T KNOW IF PEOPLE REALLY KNEW THIS INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE , BUT WE ARE IN TAX SEASON . THE ONE THING WE WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO KNOW IS THAT BY UP OINTMENT THE CITY WILL ASSIST YOU IN FILING THE CITY TAXES AT THE TAX OFFICE . ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS AS WE TALKED TO THE TAX OFFICE THAT THIS IS A BUSY TIME FOR THEM. WE ARE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE FREE E-FILING ONLINE AS WELL. ON THE WEBSITE, THERE IS A LINK TO WALK YOU THROUGH EVERYTHING. IT IS SIMPLISTIC AND EASY BUT IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, CALL THE NUMBER

TO FILE YOUR TAXES AND THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR THAT AT ALL. >> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR

JOHN RUSSELL ON HIS REPORT . >> NUMBER NINE IS PENDING BUSINESS AND TONY, THERE IS NO

PENDING BUSINESS? >> THAT'S CORRECT . >> THE NEXT ITEM IS 10, NEW BUSINESS. I WOULD POINT OUT AT LAST WORK SESSION, EACH ITEM ON THE AGENDA WAS DISCUSSED AND VETTED BY THE COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT. SO, TONIGHT, THE DISCUSSION WAS HELD LAST TUESDAY. TONIGHT IS OUR BUSINESS MEETING WHICH IS SIMPLY ROLE CALLING AND VOTING. EACH COUNCIL MEMBER OF THEY DID HAVE SOMETHING NEW THAT CAME UP FROM LAST TUESDAY WILL HAVE THE

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract For Five-Years With Right Stuff Software Corporation For A Timekeeping System To Improve Operational Efficiency. (first reading)]

>> NOT FOR THE ITEMS . >> OKAY, NUMBER 10, NEW BUSINESS. ADMINISTRATION JOHN

RUSSELL, CITY MANAGER A. >> ITEM 10 A . A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO

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OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY. >> THIS IS THE FIRST STEP OF THE RF P FOR THE SOFTWARE SOLUTION WE HAVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW. THIS IS THE FIRST STEP FOR THE TIMEKEEPING

SYSTEM . >> SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE AND THE SECOND

. >> I MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SCOTT?

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, TONY, WOULD YOU CALL THE

RULE . >> AIKENS, BAKER, CAMPBELL , BYRGE.

[ A Resolution Amending Exemptions From Real Estate Taxation For Improvements To Real Property Within The Pre-1994 Community Reinvestment Area No. 3. (first reading)]

>> THE MOTION PASSES 8-0. WOULD YOU READ ITEM B? >> 10 B . A RESOLUTION AMENDING EXEMPTIONS FROM THE REAL ESTATE TAXATION FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO REAL PROPERTY WITHIN THE PRE-1994 COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA NUMBER THREE . I AM ASKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND .

>> DON WEBB ? >> I SO MOVE. >> DOCTOR?

>> I SECOND. >> TONY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> LOONEY , BAKER, BYRGE .

[ An Ordinance To Approve An Economic Development Plan For The Canal Heights Development Project And To State That The City May Hereafter Proceed With Creation Of Tax Increment Financing Incentive Districts. (first reading)]

>> MOTION PASSES 8-0 . >> THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTED ON C.

TONY, PLEASE READ THE ORDINANCE. >> 10 C AND ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE CANAL HEIGHTS DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND TO STATE THAT THE CITY MAY HEREAFTER PROCEED WITH THE CREATION OF ATTACKS INCREMENT FINANCING INCENTIVE DISTRICTS.

>> SO, THIS WAS DISCUSSED ALSO . I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION. OKAY , I'M SORRY. WE HAD AGREED

AT THAT MEETING TO PASS THIS TO A SECOND READING . >> YES. DOES ANYONE DISAGREE

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Apply For And Accept Grant Funds From The Bureau Of Justice Assistance Bulletproof Vest Partnership For The Purpose Of Purchasing Replacement Protective Body Armor. (first reading)]

RESOLUTION . >> ITEM 10 D, THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO APPLY FOR AND ACCEPT GRANT FUNDS FROM THE BUREAU OF JUSTICE ASSISTANCE WILL APPROVE THIS PARTNERSHIP FOR THE PURPOSE OF PURCHASING REPLACEMENT PROTECTIVE BODY ARMOR .

>> JOHN, ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT . >> JUST A REMINDER THIS WOULD REPLACE THE VESTS FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO RISK THEIR LIFE AND IT WOULD BE 50% ON THIS .

>> I'M LOOKING FOR A FIRST MOTION IN A SECOND. ANITA . >> SO MOVED.

>> DOCTOR? >> SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, TONY, WOULD YOU DO A

ROLL CALL. >> KITCHEN, WEBB , BAKER, CAMPBELL , AIKENS , BYRGE .

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Apply For Grant Funding Through The Clean Ohio Trails Fund. (first reading)]

>> OKAY, THE MOTION PASSES 8-0. ITEM E, TONY, PLEASE READ THE RESOLUTION .

>> 10 E, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO APPLY FOR GRANT FUNDING THROUGH THE CLEAN

OHIO TRAILS FUND . >> IF YOU WOULD RECALL, THIS IS FOR THE NATURAL RESOURCES THROUGH THE CLEAN OHIO TRAILS FUND WHICH WILL BUILD TRAILS THROUGH THE COMMUNITY PARK AND

ALSO CANAL HEIGHTS . >> AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT AND SO DO WE HAVE A

MOTION? NANCY? >> I MOVED TO ADOPT. >> SCOTT?

>> A SECOND FROM SCOTT. ANY DISCUSSION? ANITA ? >> I'M TRYING TO RECALL FROM TWO YEARS AGO, WEREN'T THE RESIDENTS OVER TOWARD DIAL AND THAT AREA, WEREN'T THEY

APPREHENSIVE ABOUT DOING ANYTHING WITH THOSE TRAILS? >> THAT WAS DIAL .

>> THE DOG PARK . I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT THE PATHWAY THAT THEY WERE NOT WANTING IT TO GO DOWN , AS I RECALL. AFTER WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK, I WAS THINKING SOMETHING ABOUT THIS BUT I THINK THE RESIDENTS WERE AGAINST YOU DOING SOMETHING .

>> THIS IS NOT CLOSE TO DIAL. THIS IS THE COMMUNITY PARK AND SARAH TALKED ABOUT PAVING THE PATHWAYS THROUGH THE COMMUNITY PARK TO HAVE EASIER ACCESS BETWEEN THE SCHOOL. ALSO ON CHAMBERSBURG WITH THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE AT CANAL HEIGHTS AND IS PART OF

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THAT SYSTEM AS WELL . >> IT WAS THE CANAL HEIGHTS AREA THAT WAS THE ISSUE AND THERE WERE A LOT OF RESIDENTS KIND OF UPSET ABOUT IT . THIS WAS ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO .

>> MY RECOLLECTION IS WAS SPECIFICALLY DIAL PARK BECAUSE THEY WANTED BIKING TRAILS AS

PART OF DIAL PARK . >> YEAH, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS WE HAD LAID OUT A PLAN FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAIL SYSTEM IN DIAL PARK ITSELF AND THAT WAS THE OPPOSITION .

>> IF WE GET THIS, CAN WE REALLY WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE. I RECALL THEY JUST --

>> THIS IS NOT BACKING UP TO RESIDENTIAL SPACE WHATSOEVER. THERE IS NOT, IT'S ON THE FAR

-- AM I WRONG? >> WE COULD EASILY MAKE A CONNECTION TO THE DIAL PARK AREA IF WE CHOOSE TO. WHAT THIS PLAN IS ABOUT IS THE PARK WE PLAN TO BUILD IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF CHAMBERSBURG ON THIS PROPERTY AND THERE WAS THOUGHTS TO MAKE A PAVED TRAILHEAD INTO THE 90 ACRES OF LAND BEING DONATED TO US BY THE DEVELOPER SO WE CAN HAVE SOME HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE TRAILHEAD OF THE HILL . WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF LAYING OUT THE TRAILS THROUGH THEIR TO SEE IF

WE CAN BETTER PLAN THIS FOR THE DIAL PARK EXPERIENCE . >> I REMEMBER PEOPLE WERE UPSET ABOUT THE WILDLIFE AND ALL OF THIS. I THOUGHT IT WAS IN THE WOODS .

>> THERE IS A LOT OF WOODS IN DIAL. >> WOULD THOSE BE UNDISTURBED?

>> CORRECT. >> FURTHER, I SPOKE TO THE RESIDENCE THERE AND I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE CONCERNED WITH IS THE LAND THAT HIS CURRENT THE DIAL PARK . IT WAS SOMETHING ABOUT THE BIKE TRAILS THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT WHICH WERE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THEIR PROPERTIES. WE DID NOT CONSIDER THE PARCEL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW. AT THAT TIME, WE WANTED LIKE TRAILS DOWN TO THE LAND WE OWN AND THAT ISN'T INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATION HERE .

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> NANCY ? >> JUST TO STAY ON TRACK HERE,

THIS IS JUST AUTHORIZATION TO GO AFTER THE GRANT. YEAH. >> OKAY. KATE .

>> SO PART OF THE RECOLLECTION IS THEY DID NOT WANT THE BIKE PARK DESTINATION TO BE IN THEIR BACKYARD TO CALLS A SNARL IN THE PARKING. YOU REMEMBER CORRECTLY AND THEY DID NOT WANT THAT BUT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE IN DIAL PARK. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE DESTINATION . I JUST HOPE ALL OF

OUR MEMORIES REMAIN THE SAME. TODAY IS MONDAY, GOOD LUCK . >> I STARTED THINKING ABOUT IT

AND WAIT, THERE WERE ISSUES WITH THE RESIDENTS . >> JOHN RUSSELL?

>> NOTHING, SIR . >> WITH ALL THE COMMENTS, WE MOVE WITH THIS ACCORDINGLY?

>> WITH ALL OF THE PARKS, WE WANT IT TO BE AN AMENITY FOR THE CITIZEN AND TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. I AGREE WE HAVE HAD ROUTINE ISSUES WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THOSE AS WELL AND TO TRY TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR COMMUNITY PARK AS WELL . IT IS NOT ALWAYS EASY WITH PEOPLE WHOSE BACKYARD IS THE PARK . WE ARE TRYING TO DO OUR BEST THERE .

>> WE KNOW YOU ARE THE PERFECT GUY TO DO THAT . >> WE WILL DO OUR BEST .

>> TONY, CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> BAKER, CAMPBELL, BYRGE , LOONEY , KITCHEN .

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Seek Grant Funding Through The Recreational Trails Program. (first reading)]

>> THE MOTION PASSES 8-0. OKAY, NEXT IS F , WOULD YOU READ THE RESOLUTION, TONY .

>> ITEM 10 F A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SEE GRANT FUNDING THROUGH THE

RECREATIONAL TRAILS PROGRAM . >> THIS IS THE SAME PROJECT. WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE SOME GRANT

FUNDING TO MAKE THE PRODUCT -- PARKS A LITTLE BETTER. >> ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, TONY PLEASE CALL THE ROLE . I'M SORRY, WE NEED OF FIRST ? NANCY .

>> I MOVED TO APPROVE. >> I SECOND . >> TONY, CALL THE ROLE .

>> DAVIDSON, BAKER, CAMPBELL, BYRGE , KITCHEN, WEBB . >> OKAY , AT THIS POINT I WILL

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[11. Citizens Comments - General]

ITEM CITIZEN COMMENTS? >> YES , THAT WOULD BE ITEM 11 , CITIZEN COMMENTS, GENERAL. FIRST

UP MISTER JEFF HARTFORD. >> JEFF, GOOD TO SEE YOU TONIGHT.

>> IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY HEALTHY AND WELL EXCEPT FOR ONE PERSON .

>> IT'S GOING AROUND. >> I AM WITH BETHEL TOWNSHIP AND I CALL FOR FREEDOM, FREEDOM, FREEDOM. MY COMMENTS ARE IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO THE HUBER HEIGHTS BOAT TO ANNEX 300 ACRES OF LAND IN BETHEL TOWNSHIP. WITH 1400 HOUSES WITHOUT THE APPROVAL, SUPPORT, OR PROMOTION OF THE CITIZENS OF BETHEL TOWNSHIP. THE THREE ELECTED BETHEL TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES OR THE THREE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. WE, AS AMERICAN CITIZENS LIVING IN A REPUBLIC , WE USE DEMOCRACY TO MAKE DECISIONS GUIDING WHAT HAPPENS, WHEN IT HAPPENS, WHERE IT HAPPENS, AND HOW IT HAPPENS .

WE ARE SUCCESSFUL AS A NATION BECAUSE OF OUR FREEDOMS. THE MOST IMPORTANT FREEDOM IS THE RIGHT TO VOTE. LOOKING AT THIS PAST ELECTION IN NOVEMBER , WE AS U.S. CITIZENS WENT TO THE POLLS . WE VOTED ON ISSUES AND REPRESENTATIVES AT ALL LEVELS . WITH LOCAL ISSUES AND CANDIDATES TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, VOTING OUR CONSCIOUS AND VOTING TO SUPPORT OUR PERSONAL VIEWS AS TO WHAT WE BELIEVE IS RIGHT AND WHAT WE BELIEVE WILL BE BEST FOR OUR FAMILIES IN THE FUTURE. THE RESULTS OF THIS ELECTION, AS WITH ALL ELECTIONS WILL SHAPE THE FUTURE FOR EVERYONE ACROSS THE UNITED STATES . WE WILL NOT ALL AGREE WITH THE RESULTS . BUT, THAT IS HOW DEMOCRACY WORKS, MAJORITY RULES. IN MY OPINION, IN THE END, WHATEVER THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION ARE, THOSE RESULTS ARE SECONDARY TO THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. AND OUR FREEDOM WHICH IS THAT WE HAVE ELECTIONS AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE . WHICH BRINGS ME TO ANNEX SESSION LAWS AND PROCEDURES. ANNEXATION IS THE ONLY LAW OR PROCEDURE I KNOW OF WHERE ALL CITIZENS IMPACTED BY ITS OUT ARE NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE . INDIVIDUALLY, ONE CAN ENJOY THE URBAN WAY OF LIFE. ENJOY THE CONVENIENCES OF THE CITY OR YOU CAN PREFER LIVING IN A RURAL LIFESTYLE WITH SMALL SCHOOLS, LESS TRAFFIC AND LESS CRIME. THESE ARE OUR PERSONAL INDIVIDUAL LIKES AND DISLIKES AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CHOOSE AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO VOTE.

ANNEXATION CAN BE USED AS A MEANS FOR A CITY TO GROW AND EXPAND. IT IS A WAY FOR A RURAL COMMUNITY TO URBANIZED IF THEY CHOOSE. AS LONG AS BOTH INVOLVED ARE WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE SAME GOALS, IT IS A POSITIVE THING. BOTH COMMUNITIES SHOULD BE ABLE TO REVIEW THE PLANS AND DIRECTION AND EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A VOTE/VOICE . THE MAJORITY FROM EACH COMMUNITY SHOULD AGREE . IF ONLY ONE COMMUNITY IS IN CONTROL OF THE OUTCOME, THAT IS WRONG. THAT IS UN-AMERICAN , THAT IS DISCRIMINATORY AND A VIOLATION OF OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES . THE DEFINITION OF DISCRIMINATION IS THE PROCESS OF MAKING UNFAIR DISTINCTIONS AMONG PEOPLE BASED ON THE GROUPS AND CATEGORIES TO WHICH THEY BELONG OR PERCEIVED TO BELONG. DISCRIMINATION TYPICALLY LEADS TO GROUPS BEING UNFAIRLY TREATED ON THE BASIS OF PERCEIVED STATUS BASED ON ETHNIC, RACIAL OR GENDER OR RELIGIOUS CATEGORIES. IT INVOLVES THE FRONT DEPRIVING ONE GROUP FROM OPPORTUNITIES AND PRIVILEGES AVAILABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE OTHER GROUP . CIVIL LIBERTIES ARE GUARANTEES AND FREEDOMS THAT GOVERNMENTS COMMIT NOT TO A PRE- -- A BRIDGE BY GOVERNMENTAL LEGISLATION OR DUE PROCESS . THE RIGHT TO EQUAL TREATMENT UNDER THE LAW AND WITH DUE PROCESS . FROM THE U.S.

CONSTITUTION WHICH IN YOUR OATH OF OFFICE WAS THE FIRST LINE YOU SWORE TO UPHOLD . IT WAS THE FIRST PHRASE SHOWING HIS IMPORTANCE . THE U.S. CONSTITUTION 13TH AMENDMENT IN 1865, NO STATE SHALL MAKE OR ENFORCE ANY LAW WHICH SHALL ABRIDGE THE PRIVILEGES AND YOU

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>> YOUR WELCOME . >> THANK YOU FOR COMING . >> NEXT WE HAVE SUE WHITE.

>> THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT . >> HI , I LIVE AT WILLOW CREEK ESTATES OFFICE TAYLORSVILLE . SEVERAL OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE HERE TONIGHT AND WE ARE WONDERING WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE PROPERTY NEXT TO US . WE SEE THERE IS A SIGN THAT IT IS UP FOR SALE . I DID SEE THE ARTICLE IN THE PAPER LAST WEEK ABOUT IT . SO, WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS

GOING ON . >> I WOULD FIRST CALL ON JOHN AND THEN AARON TO CLOSE OUT.

>> ALL RIGHT , I WILL TELL YOU THE ADAMS BOARD IS THE CURRENT OWNER OF SAID PROPERTY .

>> I READ THAT . >> THEY HAVE PUT IT ON THE GOVERNMENT DEALS WEBSITE WITH AN AUCTION AT $500,000 AS THE OPENING BID. WE SENT AN OFFER TO THE ADAMS BOARD BACK IN

SEPTEMBER . >> COULD YOU SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER PLEASE?

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>> WE SENT AN OFFER TO THE ADAMS BOARD IN SEPTEMBER FOR THE PROPERTY. THEY DENIED OUR OFFER AND DID NOT ENGAGE WITH US IN NEGOTIATIONS AND DECIDED TO AUCTION THE PROPERTY ON THEIR

OWN? >> WHAT WAS THE OFFER? >> WE OFFERED THEM A DOLLAR

WHICH IS WHAT THEY PAID FOR IT. >> RIGHT.

>> I HAD LOOKED FOR ESTIMATES, IF YOU WOULD, FOR BASICALLY CLEANING THE PROPERTY AND BRINGING IT TO LAND WHICH WAS $600,000 . SO, WE WOULD EAT THAT COST. WE WOULD THEN LOOK FOR DEVELOPERS TO COME IN AND HOPEFULLY ESTABLISH SOME AGE FRIENDLY HOUSING, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU ARE IN NOW. RETAIN THE PARK IN THE REAR AND WHEN WE SOLD TO THE DEVELOPER , ANY PROCEEDS THAT WERE HAD WOULD FIRST PAY OFF OUR BILLS . WE AGREED TO SHARE MONEY WITH THEM IS THERE IF THERE WAS MONEY TO LEFT OVER TO HELP THEM PAY THEIR BILLS AND THEY SAID NO .

>> OKAY . I WAS UNDERSTANDING THAT ORIGINALLY THE PROPER -- THE PROPERTY BEGAN UNDER

MONTGOMERY COUNTY . >> IT DID. IT WAS THE STATE OF OHIO AND THEN MONTGOMERY COUNTY.

>> WE WERE WONDERING HOW THE MONEY HAD SWITCHED HANDS LIKE THAT? OKAY ? SO, HOW ARE WE GOING TO KNOW? WILL THEY NOTIFY YOU ? HOW WILL WE KNOW WHAT IS GOING IN THERE .

>> ERIN, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE OVER ? >> WE ARE PAYING ATTENTION. WE HAVE FIELDED A NUMBER OF CALLS FROM PROSPECTIVE BUYERS. WE HAVE INFORMED THEM OF THE CURRENT ZONING WHICH IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED INDUSTRIAL . SO, ANY TYPE OF USE THAT DOES NOT CONFIRM -- CONFORM WITH CURRENT ZONING CODE WOULD GO TO THE COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL . WE HAVE TOLD THE PROSPECTIVE BUYERS THAT THE BUILDING HAS LOST ITS NONCONFORMING USE FOR SOCIAL SERVICES PERSPECTIVE SINCE IT WAS DISCONTINUED YEARS AGO . SO, ANY POTENTIAL BUYER WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC PROCESS OF SEEKING REZONING. SO, THAT HAS DETERRED A FEW BUYERS WHO ARE INTERESTED AND JUST WANTED TO MOVE ON IN . WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH SOME OTHER SAFE FRIENDLY DEVELOPERS WHO ARE LOOKING AT THE SITE . SO, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW . THERE IS AN OPEN HOUSE ON THE 17TH WHICH WE WILL BE ATTENDING AND WE WILL SEE WHO ELSE IS INTERESTED . THE AUCTION CLOSES THEREAFTER . ACCORDING TO THE WEBSITE , THERE IS A BID ON THE PROPERTY, BUT IT IS NOT THE MINIMUM OPENING BID AND SO WE WILL SEE . WE ARE ATTUNED TO THIS ISSUE AND PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION .

>> SO, WE ARE ARE ABLE TO END UP WITH SOME KIND OF INDUSTRY THERE? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE

SAYING? >> IT WOULD TAKE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PUBLIC INPUT . IT IS NOT SET UP FOR INDUSTRIAL USE AS IT IS NOW AND IT WOULD BE A LOT OF INVESTMENT.

>> RIGHT, I AM SURE IT WAS SOME TYPE OF RESIDENCE BEFORE ? HOW COULD IT BE INDUSTRIAL WITH PEOPLE LIVING THERE AND IT WAS THEIR HOME ? I'M JUST CURIOUS .

>> ALL RIGHT, MY GUESS IS THAT WHEN A LOT OF TAYLORSVILLE ROAD AND THE AREA NEAR BOWSER CORNER IN THAT AREA WEST IS ALL INDUSTRIAL THAT THIS PARCEL WAS PUT INTO IT WHEN THERE WAS A

LARGE CHANGE DONE AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST? >> AND WE DO THAT BEFORE THEY SELL IT? WE ARE CONCERNED. A LOT OF HOMES BACK UP TO THAT PROPERTY , I WOULD THINK IT'S

AT LEAST 20 . >> INDUSTRIAL IS PROBABLY THE GREATEST PROTECTION FOR THE

PROPERTY. >> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ?

>> AND LET ME CALL ON CHRIS, THE ATTORNEY FOR ANY COMMENT. THAT'S NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE

SPOT BUT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY . >> I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE PROPERTY, BUT ONE, THE ABANDONED USE IS SIGNIFICANT . THAT MEANS WHATEVER HAPPENS THAT IT WILL HAVE TO BE UP PUBLIC PROCESS. THEY WILL HAVE TO GET LOTS OF PERMITS AND THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC . I WOULD POINT OUT THAT WHATEVER STRATEGIES THE CITY MIGHT HAVE AS IT RELATES TO GETTING THE PROPERTY, THAT COULD BE DONE UNDER EXECUTIVE SESSION AND IT

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>> COULD WE POSSIBLY, AS THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY IF IT ENDS UP AS INDUSTRY, COULD WE REQUEST

THEY PUT A FENCE UP ? >> AND ERIN CAN TELL YOU QUITE WELL THAT NATURAL SCREENING AND BUFFERING AND SET BACKS BECOME VERY IMPORTANT PARTS OF THE DISCUSSION TO MAKE SURE THAT LONGTIME RESIDENTS ARE PROTECTED, PARTICULARLY IF THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT BUTTS UP TO. IT IS COMMERCIAL USE AND ALWAYS THE SENSITIVE ISSUE FOR LONGTIME

RESIDENTS WHOSE VOICES WILL BE HEARD . >> I KNOW OUR PROPERTY, SINCE WE HAVE LIVED THERE, THE PRICE ON THOSE HOUSES, I THINK THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH THE ROOF BECAUSE OF THE SIZE AND ALL OF THAT . WE ARE CONSTANTLY GETTING PHONE CALLS FROM PEOPLE WANTING TO KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS A HOUSE FOR SALE. MOST OF THEM DON'T EVEN GO WITH THE REALTOR. WE USED TO KEEP A LIST OF POTENTIAL BUYERS AND WOULD GIVE THEM NAMES OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY WANTED TO SELL . THAT IS ONE THING AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT KIND OF COMMUNITY NEXT TO US, YOU KNOW ? I THINK IT IS THE SAFEST PLACE IN TOWN TO LIVE. SO, THAT IS OUR CONCERN THAT IT STAYS LIKE THAT . A LOT OF US WALKOVER ON THAT PROPERTY , ANYWAY. IT IS NICE AND FLAT . ONE OTHER THING, WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS TOO SO WE ARE COUNTING ON YOU TO MAKE SURE WE GET GOOD NEIGHBORS NEXT

TO US, THANK YOU . >> DON'T LEAVE, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

BEFORE I CALL ON THE COUNCIL, JOHN, JUST EASE THEIR MIND, THE INITIAL THOUGHT BY THE CITY WAS TO COMPLEMENT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ALREADY THERE THAT THEY LIVE IN AND TO FINISH BY TURNING

THE BACK ACREAGE INTO A PARK LIKE SETTING? >> YES .

>> JUST BECAUSE THAT HAS GONE TO AUCTION , IT DOESN'T CHANGE OUR FOCUS OR INTENT .

>> NO . >> WE WILL BE DRIVEN BY WHAT CHRIS SAID HIS PRIVATE PROPERTY

BUT WE ARE KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT EVERY DAY, RIGHT, JOHN? >> RIGHT .

>> I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY. IT WAS THE STATE OF OHIO AND WHEN THEY STARTED THE INSTITUTIONALIZING PEOPLE, THAT WAS BUILT BECAUSE IT WAS BASICALLY FOR SEVERE BEHAVIOR AND SOMEONE NEEDED TO BE PROBATED TO BE THERE. IT WASN'T JUST APPARENT CALLING . DDS

NEVER EVER OWNED THE PROPERTY . >> I WAS TOLD THEY DID ON THE PROPERTY BUT THEY DID NOT?

>> I GUARANTEE THEY DID NOT OWN THE PROPERTY . >> IT IS UPSETTING THAT THEY

GIVE IT TO DRUG AND ALCOHOL . >> IT WAS GIVEN TO ADAM US AND NOT DDS AND THAT IS KIND OF THE HISTORY OF IT. I USED TO RUN SOFTBALL LEAGUES IN THAT PARK AND SO IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL TO BE PUT THERE BECAUSE I AM NOT JUST GOING TO GO FOR ANYTHING THERE.

THIS HAD A TRUE MEANING ON THAT PROPERTY AND I WAS ACTUALLY VERY UPSET WHEN THEY TOOK IT DOWN AND IT WAS NO LONGER THERE. I KNOW HOW UPSETTING IT WAS FOR FAMILIES THAT THEIR LOVED ONES

WERE MOVED OVER THE STATE AND THEY COULDN'T GET TO THEM . >> JUST THE TIME IT HAS BEEN EMPTY, I MEAN THE PLACE HAS FALLEN APART AND IT'S AMAZING. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BREAKING IN AND

STEALING THINGS AND ALL OF THAT. THANK YOU. >> YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR

COMMENT ? >> SO, ERIN , COULD YOU TALK TO THE RESIDENTS ABOUT OUR NOTIFICATION . IF SOMETHING DOES CHANGE, HOW WOULD THEY BE NOTIFIED ? CAN YOU SPEAK TO

THAT? >> YES WITH OUR STANDARD NOTIFICATION, IF THERE IS A CHANGE OR REQUEST FOR VARIANCE, EVERYBODY WHO LIVES WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY WE GET A NOTICE IN THE MAIL. WE WOULD PROBABLY REACH OUT TO THE HOA MEMBERS OR LEADERSHIP BECAUSE WE KNOW THIS IS A HOT TOPIC TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE AWARE AHEAD OF TIME AND I'VE RECEIVED AN APPLICATION AND SUCH. BUT OUR STANDARD NOTIFICATION PROCESS IS FIRST-CLASS MAIL TO ALL PROPERTY

OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY . >> SUE, WHAT WAS THE HOA'S

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THE MEETING TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOTIFIED PROPERTY . >> THANK YOU ERIN AND THANK YOU

VICE MAYOR. >> YOU NEED TO GO TO THE MICROPHONE AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF

. >> I AM WITH MILL CREEK ESTATES. YOU KIND OF ANSWERED THE QUESTION AND I WAS WONDERING IF THERE IS A WAY TO BE UPDATED ON WHAT IS GOING ON OVER THERE

WITHOUT US JUST SHOWING UP LIKE WE DO ? >> YES, IF YOU GIVE ME YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION , I WILL MAKE SURE TO KEEP IN TOUCH WITH YOU IF THERE ARE CHANGES WITH

WHAT IS GOING ON . >> AND ERIN, THERE WILL BE SOME INFORMATION . AS CHRIS SAID, THERE IS INFORMATION WE WOULD NOT WANT OUT TO THE PUBLIC, MAYBE LIKE NEGOTIATION .

ALTHOUGH YOU WILL KEEP THEM INFORMED AND UPDATED, IT WILL BE AS MUCH AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN .

>> THAT'S CORRECT . >> SCOTT. >> WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT AND IN CHECKING IN WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND ON TUESDAY I DID ASK ABOUT THE PROPERTY TRYING TO GET MORE INFORMATION . I STILL PLAN TO HAVE THAT HOA MEETING WITH THE BOARD AND SO THAT IS NO PROBLEM THERE. YOU HAVE MY NUMBER , SO JUST ALWAYS GIVE ME A CALL.

>> SCOTT CANNOT DO THIS FOR HIMSELF AND I WILL DO IT FOR HIM. HE'S ONE OF THE BEST COUNCILMEMBER THIS CITY HAS . HE IS WORKING HARD FOR YOU GUYS AND HAS BEEN MEETING WITH STAFF AND

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WILL DO ALL HE CAN FOR YOU. OKAY. >> TONY, ARE WE AT THE AGENDA

ITEM FOR CITY OFFICIAL REPORTS AND COMMENTS? >> YES .

>> I WILL START WITH SCOTT. SCOTT, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING . >> I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE ONE MORE CITIZEN'S COMMENT. IS THAT TRUE ? ABOUT THE GROCERY STORE ?

>> NO . >> OKAY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE . NO, I HAVE NOTHING, THANK

YOU . >> KATE . >> I WOULD LIKE TO THINK OUR HUBER HEIGHTS ROTARY AND ATHLETICS FOUNDATION. THOSE TWO FOUNDATION SUPPORT OF LOT OF OUR

COMMUNITY AND DO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS. THANK YOU VICE MAYOR . >> THANK YOU. NANCY .

>> I HAVE NOTHING . >> DOCTOR FRED . >> NOTHING.

>>

>> NOTHING . >> SO, BEFORE I CALL ON DON REB -- WEBB, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK EVERYBODY TO JOIN ME IN SINGING HAPPY BIRTHDAY. ♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

>> HAPPY BIRTHDAY COUNCILMEMBER DON . HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU . >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH . 71

TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. >> HOW MANY MORE? >> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?

>> AFTER THAT , IT'S A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW. I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU COMING OUT TONIGHT. I HOPE YOU HEARD WHAT VICE MEMBER CAMPBELL SAID ABOUT THE PROPERTY YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT . THE CITY HAS BEEN LOOKING AT IT SINCE THE MOMENT IT WAS VACATED. IT IS BECAUSE WE WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE WITH THE PROPER USE AND TO SEE WHATEVER GOES THERE TO BE SOMETHING THAT FITS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE IT IS A SUBJECT OF DISCUSSION AND OUR STAFF HAS BEEN ON IT SINCE DAY ONE. I REITERATE THAT JOHN AND STAFF HAVE IN TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN WITH IT. I WILL JUST CALL THE OWNERS THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT COOPERATED. THE CITY WILL STILL PURSUE EVERYTHING WE CAN PURSUE TO MAKE THAT VISION SOMETHING THAT FITS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD THERE . WE WILL MAKE THAT A REALITY . I WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT THE CITY IS ON TOP OF THINGS AND IT IS NOT SLIPPING BY THE WAYSIDE . THANK YOU FOR COMING .

>> THANK YOU DAWN . >> REMEMBER THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS OWNED BY A GOVERNMENT ENTITY AND THEY DO HAVE BOARD MEETINGS THE LAST DAY OF THE MONTH AND YOU ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK AT THOSE

MEETINGS AS WELL . >> GOOD LUCK. >> GOOD LUCK , BUT IF HALF OF

YOU SHOW UP LIKE THIS, I MEAN -- >> DID SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE

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HAVE A QUESTION WITH THEIR HAND UP? >> YES?

>>

>> I WOULD INDIVIDUALLY LOOK AT THE BOARD MEMBERS AS I BELIEVE THEY ARE ON THEIR WEBSITE AND MAYBE REACH OUT TO SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS. YEAH, REACH OUT .

>> IF YOU REACH OUT TO THE DIRECTOR , SHE IS NOT EASY TO DISCUSS THINGS WITH.

>> THEM AND CONTACT THEM. ERIN AND I AND ALEX TENDED THEIR LAST BOARD MEETING. TO VOICE MY DISPLEASURE , A LITTLE TOO WELL, MAYBE. AND, THERE WERE A FEW BOARD MEMBERS WHO WERE IN AGREEMENT WITH STOPPING THE AUCTION AND TRYING TO NEGOTIATE WITH US . THEY OBVIOUSLY WERE

NOT IN THE MAJORITY AND SO THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. >> KATE .

>> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR . USUALLY BOARD MEMBERS DO NOT SEE THE AGENDA . THEY DO NOT SEE CONTRACTS AND THEY ARE VOTING BLIND. THEY GO IN WITH THE ISSUE AND HAVE TO VOTE ON IT . I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO ALL BOARD MEMBERS AND SHARE YOUR DISPLEASURE AND TELL THEM HOW YOU WANT THEM TO HANDLE THAT. THANK YOU VICE MAYOR CAMPBELL .

>> BEFORE I ADJOURN, JOHN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? >> I DO NOT .

>> CHRIS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING AS LEGAL COUNCIL ? >> THERE IS ONE THING I WANT TO

ADD . >> I COULD TELL YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY .

>> IF THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE NOT ENGAGED, MAKE IT CLEAR TO THEM THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THEM INSTEAD OF AT ODDS. YOU CANNOT ASSUME ALL BOARD MEMBERS ARE HEARING THAT, ALTHOUGH I'M SURE THEY DID WHEN THE MANAGER WAS THERE TO EXPRESS HIS FRUSTRATION. MAKE SURE THE BOARD

MEMBERS ARE AWARE . >> THANK YOU. >> ERIN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE MEETING WAS ST

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.