[ An Ordinance To Approve A Rezoning From Single-Family Residential (R-4) To Commercial District (B-1) For The Property Located At 6502 Old Troy Pike And Further Identified As Parcel One On Exhibit A – Plat Of Survey And To Accept The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Case RZ 24-21). (second reading)]

>> OKAY. THANKS, JOHN. NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM 10 A. NUBIAN ORDINANCE OF THE RESIGNING FROM A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE TO A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6502 OLD TROY PIKE AND FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL ONE ON EXHIBIT A. PLAT OF SURVEY AND TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

>> THIS IS DOWN SOUTH THAT THE AGENDA PRESENTED TO US AT THE LAST SESSION. A CITY COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT THIS

EVENING? >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AT A

SECOND. OKAY. TONY. >> OKAY.

>> I SHOULD'VE MENTIONED IT EARLIER, THOSE WHO ARE NOT FOLLOWING CITY GOVERNMENT, THERE IS A CHARTER FOR THE NOVEMBER ELECTION THAT GIVES -- THE RIGHT TO VOTE. STARTING TONIGHT, THE MAYOR WILL BE CALLED IN THE ROLLCALL. MAYOR

GORE? >> YES.

>> MOTION CARRIES. >> OH. I THOUGHT YOU WERE WAITING FOR ME. THE MOTION DOES KERRY. 9-0. WE HAVE TO GET USED TO THAT. OKAY. YES. WE SHOULD DO THAT. IF THERE IS ANYONE HERE WHO DOES NOT WANT TO SIT THROUGH THE REST OF THE MEETING, WE HAVE SOME OMENS HERE YOU ARE FREE TO GO.

THERE'S ON THE ARE INTERESTED IN, YOU ARE OKAY TO TAKE THE TIME TO HEAD OUT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO FEEL BAD ABOUT IT.

>> THANK YOU, PASTOR, HAVE A GOOD CHRISTMAS. MERRY

CHRISTMAS. >> OKAY, NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM

[ An Ordinance To Approve A Rezoning Of 2.75 Acres From Residential (R-1) To Planned Commercial (PC) And A Basic Development Plan For 0.98 Acres For The Property Located At 8920/8960 Old Troy Pike And Further Identified As Parcel Numbers P70 00203 0001, P70 00203 0002, And P70 00203 0003 On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Map And To Accept The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Case RZBDP 24-22). (second reading)]

10 B. A MOTION TO APPROVE A REZONING OF 2.75 ACRES FROM RESIDENTIAL TO PLANNED COMMERCIAL AND A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR 0.98 ACRES FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8920 OLD TROY PIKE AND FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS A PARCEL NUMBER P70 00203 0001, P70 00203 0002, AND P70 00203 0003 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP AND TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION (CASE RZBDP 24-22).

>> THIS IS THE APPLICATION FOR DOMINO'S PIZZA.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE? IS THERE A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION?

BEING CALLED ] >> MOTION CARRIES NINE MINUS

[ A Motion To Appoint Sarah Chapman To The Arts And Beautification Commission For A Term Ending June 30, 2027.]

YOUR BEER NEXT UP IS ITEM 11, NEW BUSINESS.

>> A MOTION TO APPOINT SARAH CHAPMAN TO THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION FOR A TERM ENDING JUNE 30, 2027.

>> THE NECESSARY BACKGROUND CHECK HAS BEEN COMPLETED WITH HUMAN RESOURCES AND THIS LADY WILL BRING A LOT OF EXPERIENCE TO THIS COMMUNITY THROUGH HER SERVICE ON THE COMMISSION.

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>> THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADOPT.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AT A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION?

] >> MOTION CARRIES NINE MINUS

[ A Motion To Appoint Gregory McDonald To The Military And Veterans Commission For A Term Ending December 31, 2027.]

YOUR BEER NEXT UP IS 11 B. A MOTION TO APPOINT GREGORY MCDONALD TO THE MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION FOR A TERM

ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2027. >> ANY FURTHER COMMENT?

>> THE NECESSARY BACKGROUND CHECK HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

>> THANKS, TONY. WHAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

[ A Resolution Approving Revisions To The Bylaws Of The First Suburbs Consortium Of Dayton, Ohio Council Of Governments. (first reading)]

MINUS YOUR BEER NEXT UP IS 11 C.

>> A RESOLUTION APPROVING REVISIONS TO THE BYLAWS OF THE FIRST SUBURBS CONSORTIUM OF DAYTON, OHIO COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. AT THE FIRST READING.

>> THE BIGGEST CHANGE IS CHANGING THE MAJORITY. IT WAS THE NUMBER OF HOURS NOW IT IS THE NUMBER OF CITIES. IT IS KIND OF BOTH. YOU CAN HAVE BOTH TO GET A MAJORITY SO SOME VOTES CAN HAVE THIS. THAT IS THE RULE CHANGE. THAT CAN MAKE IT EASIER. THERE BEEN TIMES THAT WE HAVE HAD A MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THERE BUT IT WAS BOTH FROM ONE CITY WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY DO A VOTE. IT IS EITHER/OR.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION. >> OKAY.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION?

[ A Public Hearing Scheduled For December 9, 2024 By The Huber Heights City Council For Case BDP 24-23. The Applicant Is Grey Fox Capital. The Applicant Is Requesting Approval For A Basic Development Plan For A 159 Unit Townhome Development On 24.6 Acres For Property Located At 5425 Charlesgate Road And Further Described As Parcel Number P70 01924 0003 On The Montgomery County Auditor's Map.]

] >> MOTION CARRIES, NINE MINUS

YOUR BEER NEXT UP IS 11 D. >> A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 9, 2024 BY THE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE BDP 24-23. THE APPLICANT IS GREY FOX CAPITAL. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A 159 UNIT TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT ON 24.6 ACRES FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5425 CHARLESGATE ROAD AND FURTHER DESCRIBED AS PARCEL NUMBER P70 01924 0003 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP.

>> PUBLIC HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 9TH. AND IS NOW OPEN. I CALL ON CITY STAFF TO MAKE THEIR INITIAL

PRESENTATION. >> THE SITE IS 26.4 ACRES. IT IS RESIDENTIAL AND VACANT LAND AT THE MOMENT. AGRICULTURAL TO THE WEST. AND TO THE NORTH PLANNED PUBLIC TO THE EAST. IT IS ZONED AGRICULTURE. IT IS A 150 TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT. FOR THIS SITE. RIGHT NOW, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS ROUGHLY -- THE OPEN-SPACE WILL BE A .3 ACRES ON THAT SITE INCLUDING A WALKING PATH. THERE IS A SECTION THAT BISECTS THE SITE.

IT RUNS NORTH AND SOUTH AND YOU CAN SEE THE RAVINE. THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WITH THE POTENTIAL TOWNHOME AND THE STONE VENEER.

AS FAR AS CONFORMANCE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THE FIRST ENTITY IS A FIVE DWELLING UNIT PER ACRE. THE OPEN-SPACE IS 9.7 DWELLING UNITS. THE PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT DOES HAVE 12 UNITS PER ACRE. THIS IS WELL BELOW WHAT IS PERMITTED IN THE ZONING CODE. THE MINIMUM BUILDING SETBACKS ARE OFF OF THE CURB AND LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING PLANS HAVE NOT BEEN

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SUBMITTED YET WHICH IS PRETTY TYPICAL. AND AS I MENTIONED, THE DRAWINGS ILLUSTRATE THE STONE ACCENTS. THOSE WILL BE DETAILED DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. THERE IS AN ATTRACTIVE ENTRY SIGN THAT IS PROPOSED ON THE WILDCAT SIDE AS WELL AS CHARLESGATE. THEY ARE PROPOSING THE OPEN SPACES PER UNIT. STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION.

THEY UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDING UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE. ONE WAS ASSESSING THE EXISTING HEALTH OF THE TREES TO TRY AND PROTECT WHAT CAN BE PROTECTED. WE WORKED WITH STAFF TO DETERMINE THE PLACEMENT DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SIGNS SHOULD CONFORM WITH CHAPTER 1189. THEY SHOULD BE PLACED IN THE PUBLIC EASEMENTS AND THIS WOULD BE IMPROVED TO CITIES STANDARDS AND THE ADDITIONAL RIGHT AWAY FEATURE OF 10-12 FEET FROM THE EXISTING PATH. SUBSEQUENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL, THE DEVELOPER HAS AMENDED THE SITE PLAN CREATING AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER ON THE NORTH SIDE. IT IS ALMOST DOUBLE WHAT WAS PROPOSED ORIGINALLY. ABOUT 40 FEET THAT IS BEING PROPOSED TO THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE WHICH IS DOUBLE WHAT IS REQUIRED. THEY HAVE TRIED TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT WERE EXPRESSED BY THE NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH. ADDITIONALLY BETWEEN THE SPACING BETWEEN THE LAST AND THE CURRENT STRUCTURE OF THE PROPERTY LINE, 280 TO WITH AN ADDITIONAL 40 FEET, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 432 FEET BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AND BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. OR THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS. AS I SAID, THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED THE APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF YOU, THOSE REFLECT THE NEW REVISED BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED. QUESTIONS OF ME?

>> THANKS, WE WILL GET THERE AS WE GET ON DOWN THE LINE HERE.

NEXT, I CALLED THE REPRESENTATIVES OF GREAT FOX

CAPITAL FOR ANY COMMENTS. >> MAYOR, NUMBERS OF COUNSEL.

DON'T THINK YOU FOR THIS TIME. I WORK FOR GREAT FOX CAPITAL.

WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY. ASSUMING THE APPROVAL FOR THIS PROCESS TO START CONSTRUCTION IN MAY OR JUNE. RIGHT BEFORE THIS MEETING I WAS MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS TALKING ABOUT EVEN FURTHER FOR IDEAS AND I WILL HAVE THEM COME UP IF THEY CHOOSE TO COME UP. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE OF ME, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

>> NEXT I WILL CALL THE LOT DIRECTOR TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS.

OKAY. NEXT, I WILL ASK IF THERE IS ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. OKAY ANYBODY PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK -- YES?

>> I'M NOT SIGNED IN, I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO BE.

>> THANKS, WE HAVE SEEN EACH OTHER BEFORE TALKING ABOUT SOME CONCERNS THAT I HAD. I'M ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS. I HAVE A FEW THINGS I WANT TO RAISE TO COUNSEL. I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES OF GREAT FOX AND THEY ARE VERY FLEXIBLE AND VERY RESPONSIVE. OVERALL, I'M VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THEM AS NEIGHBORS. A LOT OF THE CONCERNS WERE VERY MUCH ADDRESSED. THE THINGS THAT GREAT FOX CANNOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT WERE RAISED TO

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COUNSEL, I AM EAGER FOR WHATEVER RESTRICTIONS CAN EXIST IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THESE DO NOT BECOME MULTI FAMILY UNITS TO DISTURB THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WHAT CAN BE DONE IN ORDER TO DO THAT. AS CONCEIVED, I THINK IT IS A GREAT ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN THAT QUALITY. THE PROPOSED ADDITION OF 500 PEOPLE PERHAPS MEANS THAT THERE WILL BE IMPACT ON LOCAL ROADS.

IT WOULD BE OVERT TO 40, I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE CASE.

THERE IS TRANSIT OVER ON KELLENBERGER ROAD WHICH IS A SMALL ROAD. AND IT CANNOT HANDLE SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC AND AS A PERSON WHO LIVES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE SHOPPING IS AND ACCESS TO I-70, THAT IS GOING TO BE THE MAIN ACCESS POINT. I JUST WANT THE COUNCIL TO BE AWARE OF THAT. WHERE IT IS DOWNSTREAM TO SUPPORT THIS. OTHERWISE, I WANT TO ADVISE AND SAY THAT IT IS A PLAN THAT I HAD CONCERNS ABOUT AND I THINK THAT GREY FOX HAS DONE A GREAT JOB ADDRESSING THE

CONCERNS THAT I HAVE. >> I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS THIS EVENING, THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPROVAL OF THIS ISSUE?

>> I LIVE JUST NORTH OF THIS COMMUNITY. I'M NOT REALLY FOR OR AGAINST AT THIS MOMENT. WE HAD A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE DEVELOPER WITH WHAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WILL BE ISSUES FOR THE CITY, WE WILL HAVE TO STEP UP TO DEAL WITH THE TRAFFIC. HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL MOVE INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEIGHBOR KNOWS THAT THEY LIVE ACROSS FROM THE STONE QUARRY.

IT HAS BEEN THERE FOR 60 YEARS AND IS NOT GOING AWAY. THE ROUTINE WEEKLY LASTING. I HAVE A SEISMOGRAPH IN MY BACKYARD.

IT SHAKES THE HOUSE. BE AWARE THAT IS ONE OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE DEVELOPMENT. ALL OF THESE PLACES ARE SIGNIFICANTLY CLOSER THAN MY HOUSE. YOU MAY HEAR ABOUT THAT. I DON'T THINK IT'S IMPOSSIBLE BUT IT IS AN ISSUE. TRAFFIC IS AN ISSUE. LOTS OF FOLKS DOWN COUNTRY ROADS. IT WILL BE DIFFERENT, PROBABLY, THE CITY WILL HAVE TO IMPROVE THE ROADS RIGHT THERE. IT WAS IMPROVED TO DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT THERE ARE ABOUT 30 C MET TRUCKS PER DAY THAT GOES THROUGH THERE. WILDCAT IS IN PRETTY DECENT SHAPE. WE DID HAVE GOOD CONVERSATION WITH THE DEVELOPER AND WE ARE GOING TO TRY AND LIVE TOGETHER IN PEACE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ISSUE? I WOULD ASK IF THERE IS ANYBODY PRESENT I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS ISSUE. OKAY. NEXT I WILL CALL MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR FEEDBACK.

>> YES. THE AIR IN THE BUFFER THAT IS PROPOSED IS 40 FEET UP THERE. IS THAT A LONG WILDCAT?

>> THE BUFFER THAT IS ALONG WILDCAT IS STREET TREES AND ADDITIONAL --

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BUFFERING IS ALONG THE NORTH. >> I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT FOR ALL OF THE REASONS THAT I LISTED. I KNOW WHEN OUR HOMES WERE BUILT, WE ARE IN A FLAG PATTERN PLACED THERE. WE HAVE INSULATION IN OUR HOUSE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

ARE THERE ANY STRUCTURAL CONCERNS OR CHANGES I NEED TO BE MADE TO ALLOW FOR THE BLASTING THAT WILL BE GOING ON IN THAT AREA? THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE WALK CLOSER. IF HE CAN FEEL IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THE BUILDER IS ALLOWING FOR THAT.

>> WE RAISE THAT ISSUE AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING. WE WILL SEE IF THERE ANY MODIFICATIONS, IF ANY, WILL BE NEEDED. GOING FROM DOUBLE TO TRIPLE PANE WINDOWS. WHICH IS ONE OF THE OPTIONS FOR

THE FLIGHT PATH. FOR EXAMPLE. >> RIGHT. WE HAVE THAT TOO. MY QUESTION IS THAT THE CITY OWNS KELLENBERGER, RIGHT? WE HAVE ANY PLANS FOR WIDENING IT? BECAUSE LIKE WAS STATED, WE PUT

THE YARD WASTE DOWN THERE. >> AT THE MOMENT, THERE ARE NO PLANS. WE ARE WORKING WITH TAYLORSVILLE TO SLOWLY IMPROVE ON THAT. IN THE LONG-RANGE PLAN TO UPDATE ALL OF THOSE TO OUR STANDARDS THAT WILL BE BY THE TRAFFIC COUNTS ON DEMAND. AFTER IF THESE ARE TO BE BUILT, IF THEY ARE DAMAGED, THAT WILL BE PUT ON THE REPAVING LIST. AND I CAN BE BROUGHT UP FOR THE PUBLIC WORK STUFF THAT IS BEING BROUGHT OUT.

>> RIGHT, IT IS NOT WIDE ENOUGH. YOU HAVE TO PULL OVER IF SOMEONE IS COMING THE OTHER WAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NEEDS TO BE PRIORITIZED. YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT SOLVING THE PROBLEM BEFORE THE HOUSES GO UP.

>> YOU CAN CYCLE THAT INTO THE LIST.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT, THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> ON THE SOUTH END, THAT IS WHERE THE CAMPGROUND IS, CORRECT?

>> THE MAIN ENTRANCE IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CAMPGROUND.

AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE THERE IS AN EMERGENCY EXIT AND A FIRE

APPARATUS. >> YES, SCOTT?

>> CAN YOU GIVE MORE INFO ON THE FACADE?

>> THE GUIDELINES WOULD BE ABOUT A QUARTER. BUT WE DO HAVE A PLAN WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

>> THAT IS A QUARTER PERCENT JUST LOOKING AT IT.

>> THIS IS PRETTY SIMILAR TO WHAT IS BEING BUILT. THERE IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER STONE FACADE . THAT IS THE DETAIL OF THE

PLAN. >> I APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S

ALL. >> YES, AND YOU?

>> IF I RECALL, THEY WERE SHOOTING AT THE 3.25 RANGE.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? >> AARON, ON YOUR SIDE 10 YOU MENTIONED THE IMPROVEMENTS TO WILDCAT ROAD TO CITY STANDARDS.

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CAN YOU GIVE ME AN OVERVIEW OF THE CITY STANDARDS AND THE HIGHLIGHTS AND WHAT THAT ENTAILS?

>> WIDENING WILDCAT TO INCLUDE A TRAVELING LANE AND A SIDEWALK

TRAIL MULTI USE PATH. >> ONLY ALONG THE ADJACENT

PROPERTY LINE? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> I WILL TELL YOU MY CONCERN BROUGHT BY MR. STUDEBAKER TONIGHT IS THAT THE BULK OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE ACCESS ONLY ON WILDCAT ROAD AND AS NANCY STATED, BASICALLY ONE CARD -- CAR WIDE DOWN THE ROAD. WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH AS FAR AS THE EXIT FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT ONTO SUBSTANDARD STREETS. THIS WILL BE APPROVED FOR THE WILDCAT FOR A PORTION OF IT. THAT DOES NOT REALLY ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF ALL THESE RESIDENTS MAKING THEIR WAY DOWN TO LOCAL SHOPPING. AND THE REST OF HUBER HEIGHTS. I WAS A CONCERN OF MINE AS WELL. AND BEYOND THAT, I WOULD REITERATE THAT I WOULD LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION AS TO WHAT IMPACT ROUTINE BLASTING HAS BEING IN SUCH CLOSE PROXIMITY. THANK

YOU, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. WERE THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY MET WHEN THERE WAS BACK AND FORTH IN THE COMMUNICATION? EVERYTHING THAT THEY ASKED FOR, DID THEY GET WHEN WE DESIGNED THIS? WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT THEY ASKED FOR THAT WAS NOT

ALLOWED? >> I DON'T KNOW THE TOTAL ANSWER TO THAT. WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. LARGELY RELATED BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AND THE PROXIMITY TO THE PROPERTY LINE. ACCESS TO THE QUARRY AS WELL AS ACCESS TO -- ON THE OTHER COMMISSION MEETING. THE MAIN THING WAS TO ENLARGE THE NORTHERN BUFFERING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THEY HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB. THEY'VE ALSO DONE A STORM WATER LINE WITH THOSE TREES THAT ARE ON THE NORTH. TOWARDS THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT TO ADDRESS THE NEED OF

THE NEIGHBORS. >> AARON?

>> HAD ONE QUICK COMMENT. I HAVE BEEN ON KELLENBERGER MANY A TIME. WE USED TO HAVE COMPANY PICNICS AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON KELLENBERGER. I CAN ATTEST THAT IT IS A COMMON

ISSUE. >> I THINK THAT THIS COUNSEL HAS MADE A VERY DEDICATED AND INTENTIONAL PATH AROUND DEVELOPMENT AND WILL USE THIS FOR. GENTLEMEN IN THE BACK, WITH THE WORK SESSION. WITH REVENUE THAT COMES FROM DEVELOPMENT. IS THIS IN AN ALREADY IDENTIFIED DISTRICT AND IS THERE A PLAN AT ATTACHING THIS TO ONE? FOR PEOPLE LISTENING AND WATCHING, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PROJECT IS CURRENTLY APPROVED TO GO ACROSS THE STREET ON BELL FOUNTAIN.

PART OF THAT PROJECT IS THAT WE WILL USE REVENUES GENERATED

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FROM THIS ORIGINAL REVENUE AND FUNDS TO HELP UPGRADE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE IN A SITUATION WITH ALL THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE. TELL EVERYBODY HERE KIND OF HAS THEIR HANDS FULL AND YEARS FULL ABOUT TRAFFIC. THINGS ARE GOING TO GET BETTER. KNOWING THAT WE HAVE SOME TRAFFIC ISSUES THERE AND THAT THE CONCERNS ARE OVER THERE. I WOULD FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT THIS PROJECT KNOWING THAT WE HAD REVENUE AND A STREAM OF REVENUE COMING IN SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THOSE UPGRADES KNOWING THAT WILL HELP FIX THE INFRASTRUCTURE. I AM PROGROWTH AND PRODEVELOPMENT. I ALSO THINK WHEN WE ARE IN POSITION TO GET AHEAD OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT WE KNOW WILL BE AN ISSUE, WE NEED TO GET AHEAD OF IT AND BE REALLY ACTIVE ON THE BACKSIDE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE LOOKED AT THIS FOR WHAT THE REVENUES MIGHT BE TO WORK ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES. I WILL

LEAVE THAT AT THAT. >> YES. IT IS AN CRA. IN THE DISTRICT FOR THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THE CAMPGROUND TO THE SOUTH ALSO HAS FINANCIAL CHALLENGES FOR THE STRUCTURE. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ANDY TO RUN SOME PRELIMINARY NUMBERS BASED ON THE SALES PRICE. WE ACTUALLY WILL BE HAVING A CONVERSATION TOMORROW WITH THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPER ON THE STEPS MOVING FORWARD. WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR DISTRICT 7. WE

ARE IN AGREEMENT. >> IF I PROMISE NOT TO HOLD YOU TO IT, CAN YOU INVEST IN IT? BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE AND I WOULD FEEL BETTER KNOWING THAT WE HAVE SOME REVENUE. YOU SHOULD NOT BE THE CITIES RESPONSIBILITY TO UPGRADE THE ROADS FURTHER DEVELOPMENT. THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF COST SHARED. I WOULD FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT THIS MOVING FORWARD IF WE KIND OF KNEW WHERE THAT WOULD BE DONE.

>> THE DEVELOPER HAS NOT ASKED US TO CARRY THE LOAD FOR THIS PROPERTY. ONE OF THE THINGS THEY HAVE ASKED FOR HIS ASSISTANCE IN OFFSETTING SOME OF THE COST. PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO WATER AND SEWER. AS IT RELATES TO SHALLOW ROCK, THEY HAVE ASKED FOR ASSISTANCE THERE. RIGHT NOW, THE NET TO STATUTORY SERVICE PAYMENTS WOULD GENERATE ROUGHLY $9.4 MILLION AND WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO HAVE THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW MUCH AS FAR AS THE ASSISTANCE TO THE PROJECT AND RESIDUALS THAT THE CITY WOULD MAINTAIN FOR PROJECTS ON KELLENBERGER OR WILDCAT. WE HAVE THE ROUGH NUMBERS FROM THE CURRENT MILLAGE. IT IS ABOUT $9.4 MILLION.

>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS. IS THIS THE SAME MANAGER OVER AT ENGINEERING? WHAT LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE DO YOU HAVE THAT THERE WILL BE REVENUE THERE TO OFFSET CITY EXPENSES TO MAKE THE UPGRADES TO THAT STREET WHICH SOLVES THE PROBLEM THAT TWO OF THE RESIDENCE HAVE REALLY BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT?

>> I AM CONFIDENT THAT THERE WILL BE REVENUE. I WILL NOT KNOW THE EXACT AMOUNT. I WILL NEED TO CALCULATE THE UPGRADES AND HOW MUCH KELLENBERGER WILL ACTUALLY COST. NOT HOLDING ME TO IT, PROBABLY BETWEEN $5 MILLION AND $6 MILLION IN

EXCESS REVENUE. >> I WILL NOT HOLD YOU TO THAT, I PROMISE. THANK YOU. YES, MARK?

>> WHEN YOU SAY $5 MILLION IN EXCESS, IS THAT $4 MILLION?

>> IF MEMORY SERVES, THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE ASK. FOR WATER

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SEWER UPGRADES FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS WHAT THE CAMPGROUND DEVELOPER IS ASKING FOR.

>> THAT WILL BE INVOLVED IN THESE PLACES ARE ALL AT ONCE?

>> TWO PHASES AT THE MOST. >> OVER WHAT PERIOD OF TIME? INAUDIBLE ] IN ABOUT 18 MONTHS WE'LL NEED TO DO SOME

IMPROVEMENTS. >> OKAY.

>> THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO SEE WHAT THE ENGINEERING COST

WILL BE? >> THEY PROVIDED INITIAL CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATES FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS ON WILDCAT. I THOUGHT THEY WERE LOW SO I ASKED THEM TO GO BACK IN. THE DEVELOPER DID AND WE DO HAVE TO PAY PREVAILING WAGE, ET CETERA.

OUT OF THE FUNDS. THAT IS THE CONVERSATION WE ARE HAVING

TOMORROW. >> CAN I ASK THE DEVELOPER A

QUESTION? >> YES.

>> HOW IMPORTANT IS THE HELP THEY ARE PROVIDING YOU FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE? SEWER, WATER, SO ON ? CAN YOU TAKE ON A

BIGGER PORTION YOURSELF? >> AS IT STANDS, WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT THE SALE PRICE IS AND WHAT THE COSTS ARE. AS IT STANDS, I CANNOT SAY TO WHAT EXTENT. WE ARE STILL IN THE PHASE OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE SITE CONTRACTORS. WE DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY. WE ARE STILL TRYING TO ESTIMATE. I WILL BE PART OF A LONGER CONVERSATION. FROM OUR STANDPOINT, WE WANT TO WORK ON THE CITY AND WITH WHATEVER THE CITY IS WILLING TO DO. ON KELLENBERGER AS WELL. I THINK, OBVIOUSLY, ANY UPGRADE TO KELLENBERGER WILL IMPACT US AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

THEN THE CITY CAN CONSIDER SOME COST-SHARING FOR THE

DEVELOPMENT. >> WE DON'T HAVE A REGULATED

COST FOR THE ROCK. >> NOT FINALIZED, NO.

>> ARE WE BEING ASKED TO VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT? WE WOULD WAVE THE SECOND READING AND ADOPT THIS EVENING THE PLAN THAT COULD WAIT UNTIL JANUARY.

>> WOULD YOU RECOMMEND WAITING UNTIL WE NAIL DOWN MORE OF

THESE NUMBERS? >> MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE DETAILED ENGINEERING TO GO THROUGH. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO WAIT FOR THAT PHASE OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THERE IS ALSO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND TIF AREA. THERE IS STILL A LONG WAY TO GO ON THIS PROJECT.

>> I COMPLETELY AGREE. WE WANT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF LEVEL OF COMFORT BEFORE WE SPEND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON ENGINEERING TRYING TO DECIDE HOW MUCH THIS WILL COST US FOR US AND OTHER CONSTRUCTION MEMBERS TIMES. I WOULD CALL FOR A VOTE ON THE BASIC SITE PLAN TO HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATION AND DETAILED CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DETAILED FULFILLMENT PLAN.

>> WITH THIS PROJECT AND STREET UPGRADES COMBINED, WE'LL KNOW

HOW MUCH THIS WILL COST US? >> YES.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> YES, KATE? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I SEE THAT PEOPLE PARK A DRIVE TO THE BUILDING THAT THEY LIVE IN. I DON'T SEE THE SIDEWALK ARE GOING TO PUT IN MORE SIDEWALKS? I KNOW THAT THIS IS JUST A PREMATURE DRAWING.

>> PREMATURE. WE WILL BE HAVING SIDEWALKS THAT ARE 27 FEET WIDE. THERE IS SOME LEEWAY OF THAT. THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL COST FOR US. WE ARE USED TO THIS FOR THIS WIDE OF A STREET.

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THAT WOULD BE FINE FOR THE SIDEWALKS ESPECIALLY FOR THE MULTI USE PASS. OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY AND

WHATEVER THE CITY WANTS. >> WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE ON WILDCAT. THE INTERNAL CIRCULATION AND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS DELINEATED STAMPING OF THE CONCRETE AND WHAT IS SIMILAR TO BUCKEYE.

THERE IS A DELINEATION IN THE STREET SO YOU CAN SEE THAT PORTION. YOU CAN SEE THE PEDESTRIAN PORTION. IT IS ALL PART OF ONE SLAB. WE ALSO DO THAT AT THE STABLES OF HUBER HEIGHTS. THOSE UNITS ARE NOT ACTUALLY HAVE SIDEWALKS IN FRONT. THE TRAFFIC IN FRONT IS JUST NOT THAT GREAT.

>> WILL THERE BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE SIGN IN THEIR DISCLOSURES? WHEN THEY SIGNED TO GO IN?

>> THAT, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IS A REQUIREMENT.

>> THIS IS THAT CLOSE TO THEM.

>> THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN ABSOLUTELY TALK ABOUT.

>> SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE FULLY DISCLOSED.

>> WE CAN EMAIL TO YOU. >> I'M THE BUILDER.

>> THANK YOU, THOSE WERE ALL MY QUESTIONS.

>> HAS. TO PIGGYBACK ON COUNCILWOMAN BAKER'S COMMENTS, WE ARE BUILDING THE CITY TO BE MORE WALKABLE. THIS IS AN ISOLATED COMMUNITY. I WAS HOPING TO CONSIDER HAVING SIDEWALKS ON AT LEAST ONE SIDE OF THE STREET SO THAT PEOPLE CAN BICYCLE AROUND THERE AND THEY CAN WALK IF THEY HAVE A CHILD, THEY CAN PUSH A STROLLER AND WHATEVER WITH THAT. I LIKE THE IDEA OF NOT HAVING SOME SORT OF SIDEWALK BECAUSE THEY

ARE ISOLATED OUT THERE. >> ABSOLUTELY. WE DO PLAN TO DO

THAT. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> ONE MORE. A RESIDENT TONIGHT EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT THESE AT SOME POINT MIGHT BE MULTI FAMILY. CAN YOU GIVE SOME REASSURANCE TO THAT RESIDENT ABOUT HOW THE PROCESS WOULD TAKE PLACE BEFORE THAT CAN EVER HAPPEN?

>> THESE WILL BE PLOTTED AS A 0 PLOT LINE FOR SALE AS -- HOMES.

WE CANNOT CONTROL SOMEBODY WILL RENT THIS OUT AFTER THEY PURCHASE IT. THESE WILL BE INVOLVED SIMPLE LOTS.

>> TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION YOU HAD EARLIER.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANY HOA.

EAGER FOR THE COUNSEL TO DO WHATEVER I CAN. TO MAKE THIS

BETTER. >> THANK YOU.

>> THERE WILL BE AN HOA ASSOCIATED WITH THIS . WHEN IT COMES TO WALKWAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I'M SURE THAT THE

HOA WILL ADDRESS THAT. >> THANK YOU.

>> I'M JUST LOOKING AT THESE, THEY ARE VERY NICE LOOKING THINGS. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE LOCATION. THE WHOLE BLASTING THING. I WOULD NEVER SPEND $325,000 TO BE IN AN AREA THAT IS IN IT A BLASTING ZONE. TO ME, THAT WOULD BE AS ANNOYING AS ALL GET OUT. I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHY YOU PICKED THE SPOT

OF LAND KNOWING THAT. >> I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MIGHT FEEL THE SAME WAY. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MIGHT WANT TO BUY A HOME AND BEING IN A NICE COMMUNITY. THERE MIGHT BE SOME BLAST AND SOME TRUCKS HERE AND THERE. I WILL ALSO STATE AS WELL THAT I HAVE REACHED OUT TO BUILDERS AND TALKED TO THEM BEFORE EVEN MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT AND THEY DID NOT SEEM CONCERNED. WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL BUILDERS INDICATE THAT THESE ARE BUILT COMMUNITIES WITH DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES. I FELT

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GOOD ENOUGH TO PURSUE IT FURTHER.

>> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. I WILL ASK ONE LAST TIME IF THERE IS ANY PERSON PRESENT THAT WANTS TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS ISSUE. OKAY, BARRING FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL. IT IS HERE BY CLOSED.

OKAY, I HAVE TO GET SIGNED BACK IN HERE.

>> I'M SORRY, I'M AN OLD MAN AND IT'S TIME TO GO.

>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND THANK YOU FOR STAYING AS LONG

AS YOU DID. >> THANK YOU.

>> THE STREETS ARE NARROW ENOUGH, YOU PARK ON BOTH SIDES AND TRY TO COME THROUGH THERE.

>> JOHN, WILL YOU DO ME A FAVOR WILL YOU --

>> I GET DRUNK AND DRIVE THROUGH THERE. YOU KNOW.

>> MR. BAKER WILL YOU TELL US THE NAME OF THE STREET? WHISPER IT IN MY EAR?

PIECE PAPER FOR THE CITY. >> TONY HAS HIS ADDRESS.

INAUDIBLE ] >> TONY, DO YOU HAVE HIS

ADDRESS? >> I DO NOT.

>> THIS IS REAL SIMPLE. JOHN, MEET THEM OUTSIDE. GET HIS PHONE NUMBER AND LET'S HAVE A ZONING CONTACT.

>> THANK YOU. >> NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM 11E.

[ An Ordinance To Approve A Basic Development Plan In A Planned Residential (PR) Use District For A 159-Unit Townhome Development On 24.6 Acres For Property Located At 5425 Charlesgate Road And Further Identified As Parcel Number P70 1924 0003 On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Map And To Accept The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Case BDP 24-23). (first reading)]

NEWLY ITEM 11E. AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A BASIC DEVELOPMENT

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PLAN IN A PLANNED RESIDENTIAL (PR) USE DISTRICT FOR A 159-UNIT TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT ON 24.6 ACRES FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5425 CHARLESGATE ROAD AND FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL NUMBER P70 1924 0003 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP AND TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING

COMMISSION (CASE BDP24-23). >> COMMENTS?

>> THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION TO WAIVE THE FIRST READING THIS EVENING. IS THERE A MOTION TO WAIVE?

>> MOTION TO WAIVE. EMOTION AND A SECOND TO WAIVE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?

>> MOTION CARRIED, 9 TO 0. IS THERE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND? IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? TONY?

[ An Ordinance Authorizing Advances Between Various Funds Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio And Amending Ordinance No. 2024-O-2625 By Making Supplemental Appropriations For Expenses Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio For The Period Beginning January 1, 2024 And Ending December 31, 2024. (first reading)]

IS MOTION 11F. >> 11F, AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING ADVANCES BETWEEN VARIOUS FUNDS OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO AND AMENDING ORDINANCE NO.

2024-0-2625 BY MAKING SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR EXPENSES OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO FOR THE PERIOD BEGINNING JANUARY 1, 2024 AND ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2024. AT

THE FIRST READING. >> THESE ARE THE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS, HE HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS I HAD TO BE PAID.

>> HERE IS THE AMENDED ORDINANCE. IT HAS BEEN PROPERLY NOTICED. AND THE AMENDMENTS TO THIS ARE IN EXHIBIT B, SECTION 1 AND SECTION 3 OF THE ORDINANCE. ON EXHIBIT B. THERE ARE PAYMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE FOR WORKERS COMPENSATION.

>> OKAY, IS THERE A MOTION TO AMEND?

>> MOTION TO AMEND. TO REPLACE THE EXISTING ORDINANCE WITH ANOTHER ORDINANCE AS -- NOTICED.

>> NANCY? ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO AMEND.

ROLL BEING CALLED ] AMENDMENT CARRIES 9-0. NEXT WILL BE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING. IS THERE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? TONY? WAIVED NINE MINUTES HERE AND NOW A MOTION FOR ADOPTION. A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR ADOPTION. ANY DISCUSSION? TONY?

[ An Ordinance For Making Appropriations For Expenses Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio For The Period Beginning January 1, 2025 And Ending December 31, 2025. (first reading)]

9-0. NEXT IS ITEM 11G . >> AN ORDINANCE FOR MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR EXPENSES OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO FOR THE PERIOD BEGINNING JANUARY 1, 2025 AND ENDING

DECEMBER 31, 2025. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT, HOW PROUD I AM OF STAFF AND THE PRESENTATION THEY MADE LAST WEEK AND GIVING A HUGE THANK YOU TO STAFF, JIM AND BETH AND ALEX HAVE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB AND CONTINUE TO DO SO FOR THE CITY AND I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM.

>> THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORK SESSION WAS TO WAIVE THE

SECOND AMENDMENT? >> MOTION TO MOVE.

>> MOTION TO WAIVE? EMOTION AND A SECOND TO WAIVE. ANY

DISCUSSION? >> I WANT TO SPEAK TO WHAT JOHN STATED TO THE STAFF. THAT WAS THE BEST BUDGET PRESENTATION

I'VE EVER SET FOOT IN. >> I HAVE NOT SAT THROUGH AS MANY AS YOU BUT THAT WAS NUMBER SEVEN.

>> IT WAS VERY CLEAR. >> JOHN, MAKE SURE THEY ALL

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KNOW HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THAT. WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE READING. TONY?

CARRIES 9-0. MOTION TO ADOPT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION?

[ A Resolution Authorizing The Execution Of An Assignment And Assumption Of Tax Agreement With Hayden Apartments, LLC. (first reading)]

APPROVE CARRIES 9-0. NOW WE HAVE ITEM 11H.

>> 11H , A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF AN ASSIGNMENT AND ASSUMPTION OF TAX AGREEMENT WITH HAYDEN APARTMENTS, LLC. AT THE FIRST READING.

>> THIS IS A REASSIGNMENT TO A NEW BUYER.

>> WITH ADOPTION TO THE MOTION.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DISCUSSION?

[ A Resolution Authorizing The Execution Of A Development Agreement With Carriage Apartments, LLC. (first reading)]

IN CARRIES 9-0. NEXT IS ITEM 11I.

>> 11I, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH CARRIAGE APARTMENTS, LLC. AT

THE FIRST READING. >> THIS WAS PRESENTED BY ERIN AND THIS WAS THE BOAT AGREEMENT FOR CARRIAGE APARTMENTS. THIS WAS ALSO AN ITEM THAT NEEDED TO BE AMENDED THIS EVENING.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED SEVERAL OF THE EXHIBITS. WE HAVE EXHIBIT A, EXHIBIT B, EXHIBIT C WITH ATTACHMENTS A RUN THROUGH E 3.

>> IS THERE A MOTION TO AMEND BASED ON THE POINTS THAT TONY

MADE? NANCY? >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. TONY?

>> YES. >> ARRON, WOULD IT PUT YOU ON THE SPOT TO RECAP THE FINANCES?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THESE WERE SENT IN PACKAGES THAT WE APPLIED? THE CITY WILL GARNER OVER THE 15 AND 30 YEAR

PERIOD TONIGHT. >> YOU ARE CORRECT THAT WE DID RECEIVE THE PROPERTY THROUGH TAX FORECLOSURE. THERE WERE NO COURT COSTS. THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WE WILL SEE APPROXIMATELY $1 MILLION FROM THE SALE OF THAT PROPERTY TO THE DEVELOPER AND THEN OVER THE PERIOD OF THE CRA EXEMPTION, THE MINIMUM SERVICE PAYMENTS TOTAL ABOUT $1.3 MILLION. IN ADDITION TO ANY INCOME TAX REVENUE.

>> THE CITY SENT THAT OUT AND REQUESTED PROPOSALS ON THAT

PROPERTY. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> DID THE CITY GARNER THE SAME INCENTIVES FROM THAT PROJECT?

>> YES. >> THE TOTAL, WILL BE LOOKING

AT $5 MILLION OR SO? >> APPROXIMATELY, GIVE OR TAKE.

>> STAFFS WORK ON THAT, THAT WAS A VERY COMPLICATED -- INAUDIBLE ] AND HELPED WITH THAT.

>> THANKS, MARK. OKAY. FIRST AND SECOND. A FIRST AND SECOND ON THE MOTION TO AMEND. TONY?

>> THE AMENDMENT CARRIES 9-0. NEXT WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT.

A SECOND? DON? A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY

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DISCUSSION?

[ A Resolution Authorizing The Execution Of A Development Agreement With Forestar (USA) Real Estate Group, Inc. For The Canal Heights Development Project. (first reading)]

>> MOTION CARRIES 9-0. NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM 11J.

>> 11J, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH FORESTAR REAL ESTATE GROUP, INC. FOR THE CANAL HEIGHTS DEVELOPMENT PROJECT. AT THE

FIRST READING. >> JOHN, COMMENTS?

>> WE DISCUSSED THIS AT THE WORK SESSION. THIS IS AN

AMENDED EXHIBIT. >> AWESOME.

>> IF I CAN JUST ADD TO THIS. WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS BACK TO THE 15 YEAR TERM. WHICH IS WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED ORIGINALLY.

ANDY DID RUN ADDITIONAL NUMBERS OVER THE WEEKEND. THAT WAS A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT THE TERM OF THE CRA AND THE TIF.

THIS WOULD BE A 15 YEAR BOND PROCEED THAT MATCH TO THE TERM OF THE CRA. THE CITY WILL RECEIVE OVER THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT, $9 MILLION FOR THE TIF. I WAS TALKING WITH ANDY, HE SUPPORTS THIS PROJECT, I DO AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. THIS NEEDS TO BE AMENDED SO WE CAN HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND BASED ON TONY'S LANGUAGE?

>> THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO ADD EXHIBITS A, B, AND D TO

THIS LEGISLATION. >> MOTION TO AMEND.

>> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. OKAY, TONY.

MINUTES HERE AND THEN A MOTION TO ADOPT?

>> MOTION TO ADOPT. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MARK?

>> YES, MAY I WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU IN HOW YOU WORK HAND-IN-HAND WITH JOHN AND STAFF SETTING THE DIRECTION AND THE TONE. MY HAT IS OFF TO YOU. YOU TOOK EVERYTHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THAT MEETING IN ORDER MEETING WITH TOP-NOTCH DEVELOPERS TO BRING SOMETHING BACK TO US THAT THE ENTIRE CITY WILL BENEFIT FROM FROM THE DEVELOPER AND THE HOMEBUILDERS.

SO, I APPRECIATE THE TONE THAT YOU SET AND THAT WAS WHAT, LESS

THAN A WEEK? >> YES.

>> I WILL FOLLOW UP ON THAT TOO. I APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPERS BEING HERE AT THE WORK SESSION. SOMETIMES IT MIGHT SEEM LIKE A DIFFICULT CONVERSATION TO HAVE. I AM ALSO APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR WILLINGNESS TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. MARK, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY YOU TOOK TO CLARIFY A LOT OF THINGS. LAYING OUT HOW WE AS A CITY DO THINGS. EVERYONE HAS THIS IDEA OF HOW WE DO THINGS.

EVERY PROJECT THAT COMES BEFORE THIS COUNSEL, WE MAKE AN EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE GETTING THE BEST RETURN ON THEIR TAX DOLLARS AS POSSIBLE. WE JUST DON'T DO PROJECTS THAT COST THE CITY MONEY AND COST THE TAXPAYER MONEY. I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DID AND THE WORK THAT THE DEVELOPERS DID. THIS WILL BE A GOOD PROJECT AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. THIS PRICE POINT AT HOME AND IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO WILL BE A WELCOME SIGHT HERE. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING WILLING TO COME TO THE TABLE AND COME TOGETHER AND MAKE THIS THING WORK WHERE THERE IS NEED FOR EVERYBODY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SCOTT?

>> ONE MORE THING I KNOW THE A HALF. I KNOW IT WILL BE IN STAGES SO I'LL JUST HAVE TO

KEEP THAT ON MY MIND. >> THANK YOU, SCOTT.

>> I JUST WANT TO THANK THE DEVELOPER FOR COMING TO THE WORK SESSION AND LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS AND WORKING WITH ARRON AND STAFF . I CAN TELL YOU, I AM EXCITED ABOUT THE

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PROJECT. I'M GLAD TO SEE THEM FINALLY TAKING GROUP.

>> THANKS, DON. ANYTHING ELSE?

>> MOTION CARRIES 9-0. NEXT UP IS ITEM 11K.

[ A Resolution Generally Approving The Budget For The Design And Construction Of A Holiday Event Space Adjacent To The Richard F. Shomper City Governance Center. (first reading)]

>> 11K , A RESOLUTION GENERALLY APPROVING THE BUDGET FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF A HOLIDAY EVENT SPACE ADJACENT TO THE RICHARD F. SHOMPER CITY GOVERNANCE CENTER. AT THE FIRST

READING. >> JOHN?

>> THIS IS THE DESIGN, IF YOU WILL, THE INITIAL DESIGNS. I KNOW THAT I SAID HOW IMPORTANT ALEX AND JIM AND THEIR BEST WORK IS. I CANNOT UNDERSTATE HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO THE WILL PROCESS THAT GOES ON HERE. IN A COUPLE OF DAYS, HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO GET THE FOUR-STAR PROJECT ON TRACK AND COME UP WITH THIS DESIGN INTO A HOST OF OTHER THINGS FOR ME. HE IS INVALUABLE. THIS IS NOT DESIGN THAT YOU SAW AT THE WORK SESSION. HOPEFULLY TO GET SOMETHING ON IN THE AREA FOR THE NEW GOVERNANCE CENTER FOR 2025.

>> ME TOO. >> DID WE EVER DECIDE ON THE KIND OF TREE WE ARE PUTTING IN?

>> WE WILL GET BACK TO THE DETAILS. OKAY, WE NEED A MOTION. THE COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT THAT RESOLUTION. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY

DISCUSSION? KATE? >> I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO CHOKE ON ME. DID WE DECIDE ON WHAT TREE WE WERE GOING WITH?

>> MY TAKE AWAY FROM CONVERSATION WAS A TREE THAT WOULD BE GOOD DURING THE DAY AND EVENING AND SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE PRICING OUT. WE WILL BRING THAT BACK.

>> GREAT. >> OKAY, THE KEY HERE IS A RESOLUTION GENERALLY APPROVING AND THAT WILL GIVE US SOME -- INAUDIBLE ] TO BRING BACK WHAT THE OPTIONS WOULD BE .

>> OKAY, GREAT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A GENERAL COMMENT FOR THE PUBLIC WHO MIGHT BE LISTENING.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CHRISTMAS A YEAR AWAY. A LOT OF IDEAS GET BROUGHT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AND THEY ARE REALLY GOOD IDEAS AND THEY GET PUT ON THE BACK BURNER. THE CITY HAS A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON. HERE WE ARE PLANNING AHEAD, LOOKING AT CHRISTMAS A YEAR FROM NOW TO SPRUCE OFF THE GOVERNANCE CENTER THAT IS NOT YET BUILT. THAT SPEAKS A LOT TO THE DIRECTION THAT THIS COUNCIL AND STAFF IS TAKING AS FAR AS BEING PROACTIVE AND MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR OUR CITIZENS. COUNCILMAN CAMPBELL, YOU ARE THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THIS TO OUR ATTENTION INITIALLY. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR JUMPING ON BOARD AND MAKING THIS WHOLE THING

HAPPEN EARLY. >> YES, MARK?

>> DON, I THINK THIS LAST WEEK AT THE WORK SESSION WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GETTING THE BUDGET TOGETHER AND MOVING FORWARD. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT EACH OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS BRING SOMETHING SPECIAL OR EXTRA TO THE TABLE. NANCY BROUGHT US IN FRONT OF THOMAS CLOUD PARK AND THE IDEA WITH THE CHRISTMAS TREE. THE DISCUSSION WITH THOMAS CLOUD PARK, OUT OF THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ALL PROUD

OF. FOR A LONG TIME. >> YES, I AGREE.

>> THANK YOU. >> I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR APPROVING THIS. FOR SO LONG, EVERYONE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE THE DOWNTOWN AREA. SINCE WE ARE NOT REALLY GETTING THAT, I THINK THIS WILL BE A NICE CENTRAL POINT FOR PEOPLE TO

COME TO FOR CHRISTMAS TIME. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? TONY?

[ A Resolution Accepting Certain Streets And Public Improvements In The Carriage Trails Subdivision. (first reading)]

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ADOPT CARRIES 9-0. NEXT IS 11F. >> A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING CERTAIN STREETS AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS IN THE CARRIAGE

TRAILS SUBDIVISION. >> IS THERE A MOTION, I MOVED TO ADOPT? IS THERE A SECOND? A MOTION AND SECOND. DISCUSSION?

[ A Resolution To Increase The Not To Exceed Maintenance Contract Amount For 2024 And Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract Modification With Veolia North America. (first reading)]

NEXT IS 11M. >> 11M, A RESOLUTION TO INCREASE THE NOT TO EXCEED MAINTENANCE CONTRACT AMOUNT FOR 2024 AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT MODIFICATION WITH VEOLIA NORTH AMERICA. AT THE

FIRST READING. >> JUST A REMINDER, TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR, WE GOT GAP COVERAGE AND THIS WILL COVER

THAT. >> RECOMMENDATION FROM THE WORK SESSION IS ADOPTION. A MOTION AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION?

ROLL BEING CALLED ] >> MOTION TO ADOPT CARRIES NINE

[12. Citizens Comments - General]

MINUS YOUR BEER NEXT WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 12, CITIZENS

COMMENTS, GENERAL COMMENTS. >> GOOD EVENING, MIAMI COUNTY, BETHEL TOWNSHIP. CALL FREEDOM, FREEDOM. IN THE ANNEXATION AND DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AS PART OF THE TOWNSHIP. PART OF THE EXPRESS, IMPLIED, DIRECT SUPPORT AND APPROVAL OF THE CITIZENS OF BETHEL TOWNSHIP. AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY LOCAL OFFICIAL MEETING AND GOVERNING BODIES, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WAS CITED. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, THE UNITED OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WHAT DOES LIBERTY AND JUSTICE MEAN? ON THE INTERNET, LET ME SEE HERE. LIBERTY IS A TERM THAT HAS MULTIPLE DEFINITIONS. INCLUDING FREEDOM, A STATE OF BEING FREE AND INDEPENDENT. WITH THE FREEDOM TO DO WHAT ONE WANTS.

FREEDOM FROM RESTRAINT, FREEDOM TO ACT WITHOUT EXTERNAL INTERFERENCE. RIGHTS, THE SUM OF RIGHTS AND EXCEPTIONS THAT PEOPLE IN A COMMUNITY OR STATE HAVE IN COMMON. THE STATE OF BEING FREE WITHOUT -- WITHIN SOCIETY WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS IMPOSED BY AUTHORITY. BEHAVIOR OR POLITICAL VIEWS. THE POWER OR SCOPE TO ACT AS ONE PLEASES. INDIVIDUAL SHOULD ENJOY THE LIBERTY TO PURSUE THEIR OWN INTEREST AND PREFERENCES. THE PREAMBLE TO THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION INCLUDES TO SECURE THE BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY. AS ONE OF THE PURPOSES FOR BUILDING THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES. THE IDEA OF LIBERTY IS AT ITS VERY CORE, AMERICAN DEMOCRACY. WHY IT MATTERS? LIBERTY OR FREEDOM, THOSE WORDS ARE USED INTERCHANGEABLY. A FOUNDATION CONCEPT IN THE STUDY OF AMERICAN GOVERNMENT. PEOPLE AND GOVERNMENTS HAVE USED, MISUSED, AND REDEFINED THE WORDS TO SUIT THEIR PURPOSE. FOR MOST AMERICANS, FREEDOM IS THE ABSENCE OF LIMITS WERE RESTRICTION ON A PERSON'S ACTIVITIES. DETERMINING THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF SPACE TO ALLOW AN INDIVIDUAL TO MAKE HER OR HIS OWN DECISIONS AND CHOICES ABOUT HOW TO LIVE THEIR LIFE. THE FEWER LIMITATIONS A PERSON HAS, THE MORE SPACE THEY HAVE TO ACT AND THE GREATER THEIR FREEDOM. FREEDOM IS LIMITED IN THE ACTIONS OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO RESTRICT WHAT A PERSON CAN DO. ESPECIALLY IF A GOVERNMENT UNFAIRLY PLACES LIMITS ON A PERSON. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT DEFINITION OF UNDERSTANDING AMERICAN GOVERNMENT. SIR ISAAC BERLIN WROTE THAT MEN ARE LARGELY INDEPENDENT AND NO MAN'S ACTIVITY IS SO COMPLETELY PRIVATE AS TO NEVER OBSTRUCT

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THE LIVES OF OTHERS IN ANY WAY. PEOPLE INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER ON A DAILY BASIS. SOMETIMES WE HAVE DIFFERENT GOALS AND DIFFERENT INTERESTS. WE COOPERATE WITH OTHERS SO THAT WE CAN BETTER, MORE EFFICIENTLY ENJOY THE FREEDOM THAT WE DO HAVE. THIS MEANS THAT WE ALSO HAVE -- TO OUR FELLOW CITIZENS.

WHERE IS THE LIMIT TO OUR FREEDOM? THE FAMOUS PHRASE ATTRIBUTED TO SEVERAL THINKERS, MY FREEDOM TO EXTEND MY ARM ENDS WHERE YOUR NOSE BEGINS. A FREE SOCIETY SHOULD SEEK TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF FREEDOM OF ITS CITIZENS. THERE ARE NECESSARY LIMITS. CITIZENS ARE FREE TO ACT SO LONG AS THEIR ACTIONS DO NOT INTERFERE WITH THE PEOPLE AND RIGHTS OF OTHERS TO ALSO ENJOY THEIR FREEDOMS. I WILL AGAIN READ THE SPEECH GIVEN BY JOHN MAYER GARLAND SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2024. THERE IS NOT ONE RULE FOR FRIENDS AND ANOTHER FOR FOES. ONE RULE FOR THE POWERFUL AND ANOTHER FOR -- ONE RULE FOR THE RICH AND ANOTHER FOR THE POOR. ONE RULE FOR THE DEMOCRATS AND ANOTHER FOR THE REPUBLICANS VERY DIFFERENT ROLES DEPENDING ON ONE'S RACE OR ETHNICITY. I WILL ADD, NOT ONE RULE FOR THOSE LIVING IN CITIES AND ANOTHER RULE FOR THOSE IN RURAL TOWNSHIP. NOT ONE RULE FOR THOSE WHO ARE PART OF THE ORGANIZATION AND THOSE WANTING TO RESERVE OR PROTECT THE RURAL WAY OF LIFE. I WILL ALSO ADD, MAYER GARLAND, WE ARE ALL CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES. WE ARE TO BE TREATED EQUALLY.

WE ALL HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES. IF ONE CITIZEN OR A GROUP OF CITIZENS FOR WHATEVER REASON IT BEING DENIED RIGHTS, PRIVILEGES AND FREEDOMS, RIGHTS PRIVILEGES AND FREEDOMS THAT OTHERS ARE ENJOYING, THAT IS DISCRIMINATION AND A VIOLATION

OF CIVIL LIBERTIES. >> YOUR FIVE MINUTES IS UP,

SIR. >> I WILL ADD MY OWN COMMENTARY. THAT IS THAT I THINK THE COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE ALSO COULD BE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WANTED TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY. AND THERE WERE LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO DENY THAT FREEDOM OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS TO BE ABLE TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY FOR THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN GET FROM IT. I THINK ALL THESE POINTS MEAN SOMETHING. BUT I THINK THEY ARE ONLY BEING SEEN BY ONE SIDE AS DISCRIMINATORY AND NOT TAKING THE VIEWPOINT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER FROM THE OTHER SIDE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THIS COUNCIL WORKS WITHIN THE WALLS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED AND WE HAVE ESTABLISHED ANNEXATION LAWS THAT DO NOT ALLOW WHAT TO HAPPEN TO ACTUALLY HAPPEN AND THOSE LAWS WERE BROKEN AND I THINK AT THIS POINT IF THERE ARE FURTHER CONCERNS THAT ANYONE HAS FROM BETHEL TOWNSHIP THAT DOES NOT LIKE WHAT HAPPENED, THEY NEED TO WORK WITH THE PEOPLE OR MAKE IT KNOWN FOR PEOPLE THAT CAN ACTUALLY CHANGE THE LAWS AT THE STATE LEVEL. THAT IS WHERE YOUR EFFORTS AND MOTIVATION SHOULD LIE. WE ARE CERTAINLY GLAD AND HAPPY TO SEE YOU HERE. EVERY OTHER MONDAY. YOU ARE CONTINUED AND WELCOME TO COME. WHAT HAS HAPPENED HAS HAPPENED AND YOUR EFFORTS WOULD BEST BE SERVED AND TRYING TO CHANGE THE LAWS THAT EXIST AS LONG AS THE LAWS EXIST, WE DON'T BREAK THEM. WE HAVE OPERATED ON THE BEST INTEREST OF WHAT WE BELIEVE OUR RESIDENTS ARE IN THE CITY.

[13. City Official Reports And Comments]

OKAY. NEXT WE WILL MOVE ON TO CITY OFFICIAL REPORTS AND COMMENTS. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY?

>> YES, I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS TO BRING UP. THE CHRISTMAS TREES WERE A HUGE SUCCESS THIS YEAR. I APPRECIATE THOSE WHO CAME DOWN IN THE COLD. THE WEATHER WAS PRETTY COLD. ALL OF THE ENTRIES AND THE PEOPLE STANDING BESIDE THE ROADWAY

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WAITING FOR 78 ENTRIES TO COME DOWN WAS PRETTY AMAZING. THE SECOND THING I WANT TO BRING UP IS THE INSTANCE THAT HAPPENED I COMMEND YOU PARK. THERE WAS A PRAYER VIGIL FOR THE VICTIM AND THE YOUNG GIRL THAT HAPPENED TO DO THIS INCIDENT. MY CONCERN IS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE APPOINTMENT TO DO A SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. I DEFINITELY WANT TO KEEP OUR DOORS OPEN TO THE SCHOOLS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE STUDENTS. ANYTHING THAT THE STUDENTS WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO IMPROVE THE SCHOOLS AND IMPROVE SAFETY. WHAT THE CITY CAN DO AND WHAT THE SCHOOLS CONTINUE AND I WOULD LIKE THE STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO EMAIL ANY OF US UP ON COUNCIL AND GET IN TOUCH WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. DEFINITELY EMAIL US. I WANT TO KEEP THAT

OPEN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, SCOTT. YES,

ANITA? >> I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW WHAT SCOTT SAID. I HAVE SET NEW GOALS AND MY GOAL THIS YEAR, IF YOU'RE NOT PART OF THE PROBLEM, BE PART OF THE SOLUTION. JOHN KNOWS THAT I HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED BY TEXT FROM MANY PROBLEMS IN COMMUNITY PARK. I WANT TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO MAKE COMMUNITY PARK IS SAFER FOR THOSE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL BUT FOR THE CITY RESIDENTS BECAUSE IT IS MORE THAN JUST AFTER SCHOOL THAT I AM CONTACTING JOHN ABOUT SITUATIONS. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO BRING THAT UP DURING THIS NEXT YEAR AND COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS TO HELP MAKE THAT A BETTER PARK AND A SAFER PARK. SINCE THIS IS THE LAST MEETING, I WOULD LIKE TO WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON. HOWEVER YOU CHOOSE TO CELEBRATE THIS TIME OF THE YEAR. AND HAPPY NEW

YEAR TO EVERYBODY. >> THANK YOU, AND MEET UP.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK JOHN AND THEIR STAFF WITH DECK GREETING MINDY PARK. EVERYONE ENJOYED IT. I WISH PEACE AND TRANQUILITY FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED. IT IS A TRADITION THAT I HOPE WILL CONTINUE FOR YEARS TO COME. PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATED ARE ALREADY THINKING ABOUT HOW THEY WILL BE

BETTER NEXT YEAR. >> YOU GUYS HEAR ME SAYING A LOT. STAFF HERE, THEY ARE AMAZING. ANYONE WHO IS GIVEN A TASK BY ME ON A FRIDAY, HE CAME THROUGH AND GOT EVERYTHING SET UP. SARAH FROM PARKS AS WELL. I AM THE MOST FORTUNATE GUY IN

THE CITY. >> WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW OUR

APPRECIATION. >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> JUST TO ECHO, HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYONE. GREAT JOB AND PLEASE RELATE DONE . SATURDAY, IT WAS WELL ORGANIZED. GREAT JOB ORGANIZING THE TRAFFIC. I WAS TELLING MY SON ABOUT FROSTBITE AND HOW DANGEROUS IT IS FOR PEOPLE OUT THERE. TO THE COMMUNITY, AGAIN, I MAY HAVE SAID THIS ONCE, TAKE YOUR TIME. STOP AT RED LIGHTS FOR THEIR OTHER PEOPLE ON THE SIDES OF THE BUMPERS AND WE WANT TO KEEP THEM SAFE. LET'S DO THAT. I WANT TO IF WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE COST OF SOME TYPE OF SECURITY SYSTEMS FOR THE SCHOOLS TO KIND OF KEEP KIDS FROM GOING INTO BUILDINGS WITH WEAPONS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE. MAYBE WE CAN HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND WE CAN PUT SOME THINGS TOGETHER TO KEEP OUR KIDS SAFE.

>> ANYONE ELSE? >> TONIGHT WE RECOGNIZED A COUPLE OF OUTSTANDING SENIOR CITIZENS. WHEN I LOOK OUT IN THE GALLERY, I SEE A COUPLE OF SENIORS STILL HERE AT THE END OF THE COMMUNITY MEETING. I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE THIS WEEK MY WIFE AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A PEEK INSIDE THE DOORS OF THE NEW SENIOR CENTER. TO THE CITY STAFF, JOHN RUSSELL, AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING ON IT, IT IS OUTSTANDING. THE SENIOR CENTER IS GOING TO BE A

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PHENOMENAL VISION TO THE CITY. I CANNOT BELIEVE THE SPACE AND ALL OF THE DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE THE SENIORS WILL BE ABLE TO DO THEIR DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES. IT IS A DREAM COME TRUE FOR THE SENIORS. I HAVE SPOKEN TO MANY OF THEM UP THERE. AGAIN, WE RECOGNIZED A COUPLE OF SENIORS TONIGHT.

IT'S NICE TO KNOW THAT THIS CITY, THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO RECOGNIZE OUR SENIORS ON A DAILY BASIS AS THIS NEW SENIOR STANDARD IS OUT. INCREDIBLE AND

JOB WELL DONE. >> JOHN RUSSELL, WE ATTENDED TWO GRAND MARSHALS ON SATURDAY.

>> I WAS THE LESSER KNOWN. SHE SHOULD'VE BEEN THE GRAND MARSHAL. MAYBE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SINCE WE HAVE HAD A CITY MANAGER THAT IS AS ENGAGED AND WELL INVOLVED. SECOND, OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS, YOU CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON JAN. IT HAS BEEN THAT WAY FOREVER EVER SINCE SHE HAS BEEN HERE. YEAH.

PEACE AND TRANQUILITY, IS OUT WHAT WE ARE CALLING THE NONPROFIT? WE CAN CALL IT THAT ALL DAY BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT SCOTT'S WIFE WHO REALLY BEHIND-THE-SCENES PUTS EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND IT IS SEAMLESS. AND FRED AND I WERE CHASED BY POLICE MADE -- MID FIRE. I WAS NOT SURE WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO PUT US NEXT. IT WAS A GREAT TIME IN A GRAY PARADE. IF HER AND HER TEAM AREN'T BUSY, WE HAVE ANOTHER PARADE COMING UP JULY 4TH. THANKS A LOT. IT WAS A LOT OF FUN. THE PEOPLE IN THE STREET, EVEN AS COLD AS IT WAS, YOU COULD TELL THEY WERE HAVING FUN. I BET SHE HAS. JAN FARGO, THE CITY IS FORTUNATE TO HAVE HER. JOHN, THE CITY MANAGER, ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT CITIZENS DO, DON, YOU AND YOUR SPOUSE. YOUR SPOUSE HAS CONTRIBUTED AND VOLUNTEERED SO MUCH. WE ARE VERY LUCKY. LET ME SEE, I WROTE SOMETHING DOWN.

THE FIRST TIME I HEARD THIS OVER A YEAR AGO, I TOOK A VERY SERIOUS. LET ME LOOK AT WHAT WAS ACTUALLY SAID. IT WAS, BE BETTER. A FRIEND OF MINE HAD POINTED OUT THAT WE CAN DO BETTER. AS A CITY, AS A COUNCIL, AS A GOVERNMENT. THIS IS SIMPLY MY PERSPECTIVE BUT THROUGH PRAYER, DEDICATION, WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THAT. MAYOR, YOU HAVE STEPPED UP IN 2024 AND YOU HAVE DONE JUST OUTSTANDING. YOU HAVE BEEN AN OUTSTANDING LEADER AND THE HIRING OF JOHN RUSSELL. WHAT YOU TWO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK OUT. I KNOW YOU GUYS TALK A FEW TIMES EACH WEEK. IS THAT WATER DOWN ENOUGH?

>> THAT IS THE WATERED-DOWN VERSION.

>> EVERYONE THAT IS ON THE COUNCIL AND STAFF HERE, IT HAS

BEEN WONDERFUL. >> THANK YOU, MARK.

>> HAPPY NEW YEAR. >> DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE

ANYTHING? >> I WANT TO WISH EVERYONE A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR, HAPPY KWANZAA, HAPPY BOXING DAY, WHATEVER YOU CELEBRATE, TAKE A MOMENT AND ENJOY. TWO OTHER SENIOR CITIZENS, YOUR DUES ARE $20 DUE BY THE FIRST NEW YEAR. I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE A MEMBER BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL OF AGE.

>> I HAVE MY CARD. >> I HAVE MY CARD. IT WILL BE A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY AND WE HOPE YOU COME OUT AND USE IT. THANK

YOU, MAYOR. >> YES, I JUST TURNED 50.

>> SURPRISE SURPRISE. >> I'M SORRY I MISSED THE

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PARADE. I HAD A DAUGHTER THAT HAD A PERFORMANCE. I AM A EMBERLEY MOTIVATED TO WORK ON A COMMUNITY THEATER THING. THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS USED FROM THE DANCE GROUP HERE TO HAVE NO SERVICE, NOWHERE HERE IN HUBER HEIGHTS. THIS WAS A WONDERFUL PERFORMANCE THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HERE BY THIS DANCE COMPANY. I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS CONVERSATION TO HAVE SOMETHING OF A COMMUNITY THEATER HERE IN THE AREA WHERE PERFORMANCES LIKE THAT CAN BE HELD.

>> I WILL GO OUT ON A LIMB HERE AND SAY THAT THE PROJECT WILL BE APPROVED TONIGHT AND THE $9 MILLION WILL GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS IT BEING APPROVED. WE ARE DOING JUST THAT.

>> AND THE NEW RECREATION CENTER NEXT TO THE ROADS CAN BE

USED FOR THAT. >> CHRIS?

>> I DON'T SAY MUCH NEAR THE END OF MEETINGS EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE TIME. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, MAYOR, CONGRATULATIONS, YOU MUST HAVE BEEN A NICE FEELING.

>> YES. HISTORIC, ACTUALLY. >> ONE MORE. CHRIS, WE ARE SO HAPPY TO HAVE YOU. YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB AT REPRESENTING OUR CITY AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVE MANY YEARS

MORE OF YOUR SUPPORT. >> OKAY, A COUPLE THINGS I WANT TO ADD. I DO KNOW AND I WANT TO END ON A HIGH NOTE. I WANT TO ADD THAT WE ALL CERTAINLY HAVE OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE STATE OF SOME OF THE YOUTH IN THIS COMMUNITY. IT IS SOMETHING WHERE WE ALL NEED TO BE HAVING SOME VERY DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS. I HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH EVERYONE ON THE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY SCHOOL BOARD. I HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT. CURRENTLY, MARK HOLMES IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD. I REACHED OUT TO MARK AND ASKED IF YOU WOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH ME. WE DID, WE MET ON SATURDAY. IT WAS A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION. PART OF WHAT THAT LED TO AS WELL, I KNOW, JASON WAS TALKING TO ME ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE RECONVENE THE JOINT SCHOOL BOARD COUNCIL MEETING. MARK CERTAINLY IS ON BOARD WITH THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHO THE NEXT BOARD PRESIDENT WILL BE OR THE CURRENT BOARD PRESIDENT. OR WAS THE PRESIDENT NEXT YEAR.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. WE TALKED ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE GET TOGETHER THE SECOND OR THIRD WEEK OF JANUARY. I THINK, EIGHT YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST STARTED RUNNING FOR THIS POSITION, I ALWAYS SAID THAT THE CITY AND THE SCHOOLS HAVE TO COEXIST. WE WILL NEVER HAVE A SUCCESSFUL CITY WITHOUT A SUCCESSFUL SCHOOL DISTRICT. YOU'LL NEVER HAVE A SUCCESSFUL WILL DISTRICT WITHOUT A SUCCESSFUL CITY. THEY GO HAND-IN-HAND. THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE GOVERNING BODY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT NEED TO HAVE WORK MEDICATION. ONE OF THE THINGS, I WILL JUST SAY, THERE IS A BIG TOPIC OF CONVERSATION I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. IS A SYSTEM CALLED AN EVOLVED SYSTEM. THE DISCUSSION IS BROUGHT UP WITH LEADERSHIP OF THE SCHOOLS REGARDING THE METAL DETECTION SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE THAT -- THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT I WORKED OUT LAST YEAR, THE FOUR MADISON SCHOOLS, WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT IS NOT A METAL DETECTION SYSTEM BUT IS MORE OF AN IMAGE SCANNING SYSTEM AND IT IS LOOKING FOR THINGS THAT COULD BE SOME TYPE OF A WEAPON. AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AGAINST A SYSTEM LIKE THAT, WHAT ABOUT THE SCHOOLS? WILL MAKE THE KIDS FEEL SAFER ?

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OR WILL IT MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE THEY ARE NOT SAFE BECAUSE WE HAVE THESE THINGS? I WILL SAY, A PART OF MY OWN BIAS AND PERCEPTION WAS HOW I WAS TREATED. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I GONE TO A CONCERT VENUE AND HOW MANY TIMES ABOUT GOING TO OUR OWN MUSIC CENTER? ANY TIMES HAVE I GONE TO THE ZOO YOU KNOW, KINGS ISLAND. DISNEY WORLD. ALL OF THESE OTHER PLACES HAVE THEIR TYPE OF SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE ARE MADE TO FEEL SAFE. I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT SHOULD BE ANY DIFFERENT FROM A SCHOOL. WE SENT OUT SURVEYS, GOOGLE FORMS SURVEYS TO THE STUDENTS AND THERE WAS A VIOLENT INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED AT THAT SCHOOL. ONCE THOSE SYSTEMS WERE PUT IN PLACE , THAT WAS A HIGH SCHOOL BUILDING OF 2200 STUDENTS. WE LET THEM IN THE BUILDING AT 7:00 A.M. AND WE GOT 2200 KIDS IN THE DOOR EVERY MORNING IN 15 MINUTES AND NOBODY ENTERED THAT BUILDING WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THAT SYSTEM. A KID CAME IN LATE, THERE WAS A SYSTEM THAT WAS BY THE ATTENDANCE OFFICE. I TALKED TO MARK ABOUT IT AND DON ABOUT THE SYSTEM AND THINGS IN THE PAST. DON HAS LOOKED AT IT TOO AND HAS REACH OUT TO ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES. ONE OF THE WORK SESSIONS IN JANUARY. I WOULD LIKE HIM TO COME IN HERE AND IT IS NOT TOO FAR-FETCHED.

WE INVITE THE SCHOOL BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENT TO COME IN TO LOOK AT HOW THIS ACTUALLY WORKS.. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES IN SCHOOLS NATIONWIDE TODAY IS MAKING SURE THAT SCHOOLS ARE SAFE. NOT ONLY THAT THEY ARE SAFE BUT THEY FEEL SAFE. A KID CANNOT FEEL SAFE IF THEY'D GO TO SCHOOL HUNGRY IN THE MORNING. THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE HAPPENING IN SCHOOLS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ALL OVER THE PLACE, EVERY DAY.

OUR KIDS ARE NO DIFFERENT AND THEY DON'T DESERVE ANY LESS. I DO LOOK FORWARD TO A GROUP JOINT MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL COMING UP IN JANUARY. I LOOK FORWARD TO A MEETING WITH A REP FROM THE EVOLVE SYSTEM. AND THANK YOU FOR LOOKING AT THIS ALONG WITH THE SCHOOLS. AND ALSO AT A WORK SESSION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE SECURITY AT COMMUNITY PARK. WE OUGHT TO BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WHILE WE ARE ON OUR BREAK SO THAT WE CAN COME BACK THE FIRST OF THE YEAR AND THINK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THAT PLACE SAFER. A LOT OF TIMES WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO POLICING, THEY ARE REACTIVE, NOT PROACTIVE. TYPICALLY THEY DON'T GET CALLED UNTIL SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED. SOMEONE IS HURT, SOMEONE IS INJURED. THAT IS WHEN WE CALL THE POLICE. WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT WAYS TO PREVENT. YOU DON'T CHANGE THE OIL IN YOUR CAR WHEN YOU ARE SITTING ON THE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY. THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT TIME TO BE THINKING ABOUT CHANGING THE OIL. PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE TO PREVENT THOSE THINGS FROM HAPPENING. WHAT CAN WE DO? THAT IS THE PERSPECTIVE I WANT TO LOOK AT. WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THAT PARK THAT WILL BE AROUND THE PREVENTATIVE SIDE TO KEEP THINGS LIKE WHAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK FROM HAPPENING. I HAVE SAID THIS BEFORE. IF YOU PUT ENOUGH SMART PEOPLE IN THE ROOM WITH ENOUGH GOOD IDEAS, TO BRAINSTORM AND YOU CAN EVENTUALLY COME UP WITH A GOOD SOLUTION. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT. WE ARE WELL PAST THE TIME WHERE DECISIONS ARE MADE AND WHERE THESE KIDS FEEL SAFE. I DO NOT WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THAT I AM PLACING BLAME ANYWHERE. THIS IS A NATIONWIDE PROBLEM HAPPENING IN OUR SCHOOLS. OUR SCHOOLS HAVE LOTS OF THINGS GOING ON AND THEY ARE ALL TREMENDOUSLY BUSY AND WE NEED TO ADD THE SAFETY PIECE ON TOP OF WHAT IT TAKES TO EDUCATE THOSE KIDS. IT IS HUGE. YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. IT FEELS LIKE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME THE DAY TO DO WHAT YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO DO AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHER STRESSES ADDED INTO WHAT GOES ON IN THE SCHOOL. I AM IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM BLAMING ANYONE. ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO

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CAUSE HARM OR CAUSE DAMAGE, THEY WILL PROBABLY FIND A WAY TO DO IT. WE CANNOT SIT BY AND MAKE IT EASY FOR THEM. WE HAVE TO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT. I THINK THE SCHOOL BOARD IS NOT SITTING ON THEIR LAURELS EITHER. THEY ARE JUST AS FRUSTRATED THAT THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND THEY WANT

[14. Executive Session]

THINGS TO GET BETTER AS WELL. OKAY, WITH THAT SAID, THERE IS

A NEED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> WE WILL NEED A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR A DISCUSSION ABOUT DISPUTES THAT ARE THE SUBJECT OF PENDING LITIGATION.

>> IS THERE A MOTION? >> I MOVE.

>> DO I HAVE A MOTION AT A SECOND?

>> TONY? EXECUTIVE SESSION IT CARRIES 9-0 AN

[ A Resolution Authorizing The Execution Of A 2024 Water And Sewer Agreement With The Board Of Commissioners Of Clark County, Ohio. (first reading)]

>> IT IS NOW EQUAL IN 14 AND WE HAVE COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. THERE IS SOME ACTION TO TAKE THIS EVENING. IF YOU WILL READ THE MOTION PLEASE. WE NEED TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO

ADOPT ITEM N RIGHT NOW. >> TO AMEND AND I'D ADD 11 N.

>> YOU TOLD ME THIS BEFORE, YOU DO THIS DIFFERENTLY.

>> ADDING ITEM 11N WHICH IS THE EXECUTION OF A 2020 FOR WATER AND SEWER AGREEMENT WITH THE COMMISSIONERS OF CLARK COUNTY.

>> IS THERE A MOTION? SCOTT? IS THERE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? CHRIS?

>> YES, MAYOR, THANK YOU. LAST WEEK, SOME SETTLEMENT DISCUSSIONS BEGAN WITH THE COUNTY IN REGARD TO THE WATER AND SEWER AGREEMENTS THAT THEY HAVE IMPACTED. WITH SOME POSITIVE EFFORTS AND GOOD FAITH BY BOTH SIDES. THE RESOLUTION WAS REACHED AND CONFIRMED TODAY AND REFLECTED BY THE RESOLUTION WHERE THERE IS A NEW WATER AND SEWER AGREEMENT THAT CLEARLY DEFINES THE TERRITORY THAT WE SERVE WHICH IS REALLY THE ESSENCE OF WHAT THIS DEBATE WAS ABOUT. IT WAS UNCLEAR ABOUT GIS AND THE OTHER TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE AVAILABLE NOW. THERE WAS A MEETING OF THE MINDS TO SAY THAT THIS NEEDS TO GO AWAY.

I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT WE DID COME TO A RESOLUTION. I EXPECT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WILL APPROVE THE SAVE -- SAME AGREEMENT. TO SIGN AS THE CITY MANAGER SIGNED BY THE END OF THE WEEK I WILL EXPECT THE LAWSUIT TO BE FORMALLY

DISMISSED. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MAYBE THE LANGUAGE THERE IS THAT THE AGREEMENT LASTS FOR 10 YEARS AND THERE IS NO AUTOMATIC RENEWAL. NOT SAYING THAT THE COUNTY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THINGS IF THERE IS A FUTURE IF NECESSARY. IT RESOLVES THIS PROBLEM NOW.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YES, MARK?

>> WHO REGISTERED THE FOR US ON THE SIDE?

>> IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION DO YOU APPEAR

IN PLAY? >> A HIGH LEVEL OF