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[ AGENDA PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road November 21, 2024 6:30 P.M.]
AND I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.WELL, WE HAVE A FULL HOUSE TONIGHT.
THAT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE THAT IN A WHILE, SO THINGS ARE GETTING TO LOOK UP THERE, ANDY.
I HAVE NO, UH, OPENING REMARKS.
UH, LATER ON I WANT TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON WHAT HAPPENED AT THE, UH, COUNCIL WORK SECTION, UH, TUESDAY NIGHT.
AUGUST, WE'RE GONNA GO RIGHT ON TO THE OLD BUSINESS THERE, CHRIS.
UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY WRAPPING UP, UH, THE RENTALS FOR THE YEAR.
UM, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THE, UH, COMMUNITY CENTER RENTALS FOR 2025 OPEN, UH, DECEMBER 16TH.
UM, JUST FINISHING A FEW THINGS THERE.
UM, I CAN SAY THAT, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION PORTION OF THE SENIOR CENTER IS COMPLETE.
SO HERE ACTUALLY YOU'VE ALREADY STARTED MOVING STUFF IN.
SO IT'S, IT'S SARAH'S BABY NOW.
SO WE'RE DONE AT, WITH OUR PART AT THE Y.
UM, BUT THE FACILITY LOOKS GREAT.
I KNOW THEY'RE PLANNING, I THINK EARLY JANUARY AND OPEN HOUSE RIBBON CUTTING.
UM, I THINK SARAH, YOUR PLANS ARE DECEM.
WE GET DECEMBER 9TH, EVERYTHING STARTS COMING.
SO I THINK EVERYBODY WILL BE VERY PLEASED WITH IT ONCE THE SENIORS GET IN AND GET THEIR STUFF SETTLED AND WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR CHRIS? IF NOT, WE ARE GOING TO ITEM TWO THERE.
SO THE SENIOR CENTER IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL.
UM, IT IS GOING TO BE AN INCREDIBLE FACILITY FOR THAT ORGANIZATION TO FUNCTION OUT OF.
UM, AND IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT COMMUNITY ASSET ON THE WHOLE.
SO, UM, WE ARE PLANNING THAT OPEN HOUSE ON JANUARY 10TH FROM THREE 30 TO SEVEN 30.
AND IT'S NOT JUST FOR SENIOR ADULTS.
WE WOULD LOVE ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY THAT'S INTERESTED TO COME IN AND SEE IT.
UM, CERTAINLY ANY MEMBER THAT IS A SENIOR WOULD THAT WOULD LIKE TO JOIN CAN COME IN.
UM, SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT THE HUBER HEIGHTS SENIOR CENTER IS THAT THAT ORGANIZATION ACTUALLY ALLOWS, UH, INDIVIDUALS 50 YEARS AND UP.
SO A LITTLE BIT YOUNGER THAN WHAT MOST PEOPLE THINK OF AS A SENIOR.
UM, BUT IT WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE IF YOU WERE, YOU KNOW, A Y MEMBER AND YOU ALSO WANTED TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE SOCIALIZATION, DO SOME THINGS LIKE CARDS OR BACKGAMMON.
UH, THEY'VE GOT A ROBUST TABLE TENNIS CLUB, SO, UM, A LOT OF FUN.
I HOPE EVERYONE CHECKS IT OUT ON THE 10TH OF JANUARY.
UH, I CAN ALSO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE ON THE SHO GATE PLAYGROUND.
UM, SO UNFORTUNATELY IT'S KIND OF BEEN HURDLE AFTER HURDLE OUT THERE AT THAT PLAYGROUND.
UH, WHEN THEY FIRST RIPPED UP THE GROUND, UH, WE DID DISCOVER THAT IT WAS ONE OF THE FORMER SITES FOR MIXING CONCRETE FOR THE HUBER HOMES.
UM, SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS AND THEY HAVE TO DIG OUT LARGE CHUNKS OF CONCRETE, YOU END UP, UM, HAVING TO GO AND BACKFILL.
YOU ALSO END UP WITH AREAS WHERE THE SOIL IS TOO, UM, LOOSE AND NOT COMPACTED SO THAT YOU CAN'T DRIVE THE POLES AND POSTS AS DEEP AS YOU NEED TO.
UM, SO THEY ENDED UP HAVING TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF REARRANGING, WHICH WAS AN INITIAL SETBACK.
THERE'S INITIAL SETBACKS IN THE SCHEDULING OF SOME OF THE SUBCONTRACTORS.
UM, FINALLY WE HAD THE SURFACE GUYS OUT THERE, SO ALL LOOKS LIKE IT WAS GOING VERY SMOOTHLY.
UM, BUT NOW THERE HAS BEEN, UH, UNFORTUNATELY A FAILURE IN ONE PART OF THE SURFACING.
SO IT IS JUST AN AREA WHERE IT'S SUNK.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S CAUSED IT.
THE TEAM SHOULD BE OUT THERE TOMORROW TO GIVE AN ASSESSMENT ON WHAT IT'LL TAKE TO FIX IT.
UH, BUT UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, IT IS A TRIP HAZARD AND WE WILL LIKELY NOT OPEN UNLESS THEY HAVE A SHORT TERM FIX FOR US.
SO, UM, WE ARE ON YET ANOTHER DELAY THERE, WHICH IS DISAPPOINTING.
UH, BUT MANY LESSONS LEARNED AT LEAST BECAUSE AS WE ARE LOOKING TO REPLACE MORE PLAYGROUNDS NEXT YEAR OR AT LEAST ONE, UM, I'LL LET ALEX TALK ABOUT CLOUD PARK, BUT I DID HAVE TWO MORE TOPICS I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT WERE KIND OF BROUGHT UP FROM PAST MEETINGS.
ONE IS THAT I DID REACH OUT TO THE LITTLE MERMAN, UM, WHICH WAS THIS DISNEY COVER BAND GROUP THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE COME THROUGH.
AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE IN OHIO BASICALLY FROM SEVEN THREE TO SEVEN 13 RIGHT NOW.
THEY HAVE THE ONLY WEEKENDS THEY HAVE WOULD BE, UM, THE FIFTH.
SO JULY 5TH, RIGHT AFTER 4TH OF JULY.
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SEVENTH AGAIN.THAT'S THAT LONG WEEKEND OF THE 4TH OF JULY THOUGH.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE IN FAVOR OF THAT OR THEY COULD DO FRIDAY NIGHT THE 11TH OR SUNDAY THE 13TH.
BUT KNOWING THAT THEY ARE IN SPRINGBORO ON THE 12TH.
SO I THINK WE ARE FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM SPRINGBORO THAT WE WOULD HAVE OUR OWN CROWD.
AND CERTAINLY IF ANY OF OUR CROWD WAS GOING TO SPRINGBORO, THEY'D LIKELY STAY HERE CLOSER TO HOME.
UM, BUT I REALLY, BECAUSE THE ONE WEEKEND IS JULY 4TH AND THE OTHER WEEKEND IS SPRINGBORO.
I REALLY WANTED TO BRING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION HERE.
UM, THEY CANNOT DO A WEEKDAY TOO, SO WE CAN DO ANY DAY BETWEEN SEVEN THREE AND SEVEN 13.
UM, OTHER THAN THE FOURTH THEY'RE BOOKED AND THE 12TH THEY'RE BOOKED AT SPRINGBORO.
ANY INITIAL THOUGHTS? I'D SAY WE GO BEFORE STILL AT THEIR THUNDER AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE WE'RE NOT COPYING OR DOING MAKE IT BOOK IN REVERSE.
IT'S SO GO VOTE FOR GO BEFORE SPRING BROWN.
WERE, DO WE THINK IT WOULD HAVE A TURNOUT ON A WEEKDAY? AGAIN, THIS IS PEOPLE AND THEIR CHILDREN MOST LIKELY, UM, SCHOOLS.
I'VE SEEN THEM AT SPRINGBORO AND UM, I THINK ONE OF THEIR DAYS WAS DURING THE WEEK ON A THURSDAY AND IT STILL HAD A REALLY LARGE CROWD, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER.
UM, THE KIDS ARE OUTTA SCHOOL, SO I THINK IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, WELL, WHAT TIMES ARE WE LOOKING AT? OH, THAT WOULD BE THE OTHER QUESTION TOO.
UM, THEIR TIMES ARE KIND OF OPEN, SO THEY COULD DO AN AFTERNOON OR AN EVENING SHOW.
I WOULD SAY IF WE WERE DOING IT DURING THE WEEK, WE'D DEFINITELY WANT TO DO AN EVENING SHOW.
WHAT DATES IS IT AGAIN? UM, SO BASICALLY THE, THE FOUR, SO THE FIFTH, JULY 5TH THROUGH JULY 11TH, THEY HAVE OPEN, BUT THE 11TH WOULDN'T BE BAD.
THAT IS THE FRIDAY RIGHT BEFORE SPRING BARREL'S SHOW THOUGH.
BUT UM, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS CAN BE THE BAD GUY OR SUNDAY OR I, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHICH WOULD BE BETTER.
SUNDAY AFTERNOON, BUT NOT THE WEEKEND OF THE FOURTH.
I THINK THERE WOULD BE TOO MANY PEOPLE TRAVELING AND HONESTLY I DON'T WANT TO TAKE MY KIDS SOMEWHERE ELSE THE NEXT DAY AFTER WE JUST DID STAR SPANKING HEIGHTS.
OH, WELL STAR SPANKING HEIGHTS WOULD BE THE 28TH THIS YEAR.
YEAH, IT WOULD EIGHTH, JUNE 28TH.
UNLESS THE FOURTH IS ON A SATURDAY AND THEN IT'S THAT SATURDAY.
DO WE NEED TO DECIDE THAT? UH, THE NIGHT, THE SATURDAY? UM, WE DON'T NEED TO, BUT IT'D BE BETTER SO THAT THEY DON'T GET BOOKED ELSEWHERE.
UM, SO WE CAN ALSO JUST CIRCLE BACK AT THE END AND UM, ANYBODY WANTS TO GIVE THEIR 2 CENTS ON IT? WE CAN.
SO DON'T WE DO LIKE A FRIDAY, LIKE NIGHT MOVIES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? OR TYPICALLY YES.
SO CAN IT IS JUST LIKE, REPLACE A FRIDAY NIGHT MOVIE AND DO THIS AND I LIKE ARE WE PLANNING ON DOING IT AT THE AMPHITHEATER ANYWAYS OR SOMETHING? YEAH, I WOULD IMAGINE WE'RE DOING IT AT THE AMPHITHEATER JUST TO REPLACE A FRIDAY NIGHT MOVIE AND LIKE JUST DO IT ON FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH JULY 11TH AND JUST JULY 11TH.
IF THEY'RE ALREADY BOOKED THAT DAY.
'CAUSE I'VE HAD THIS EMAIL FOR A DAY.
IS THERE A SECOND CHOICE? THURSDAY THE 10TH THAT, YEAH.
YEAH, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S MY THINKING, YOU KNOW, GO FOR THE 11TH FIRST IS BECAUSE SINCE WE ALREADY HAVE A, JUST SORT OF HAVE THAT REPLACED A, A MOVIE NIGHT.
SPRING ROW YOU SAID, YOU SAID THAT SPRING ROW IS, OH SORRY, YOU SAID THAT SPRING ROW IS ON THE 13TH.
THE SPRING ROW IS ON THE 12TH.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW LONG THE SHOW IS.
I'M GUESSING IT'S AT LEAST TWO HOURS.
AND WHAT I, WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS, SO RICH, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? YEAH, JUST DON'T THINK OF THURSDAY IS A GREAT CONNECTED OKAY.
WANNA GO OUT AND DO THINGS ON A THURSDAY AND EVENING PROBABLY NEXT DAY.
I WOULD SAY IF WE CAN'T DO THURSDAY, I MEAN FRIDAY NIGHT, UM, FOR THE CONCERT, I WOULD SAY MAYBE SUNDAY AFTERNOON 13TH.
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SECOND.SO WE'LL ASK FOR THE 11TH AND THEN THE 13TH.
AND IT'LL GIVE THE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY IF THEY CAN'T MAKE ONE OF IT, LIKE YEAH, THEY CAN'T MAKE SPRING BROS OF EVENT.
THEY COULD LIKE, OH MAN, UBER'S NOT THAT FAR AWAY.
I MEAN, IF THEY CAN'T MAKE TO OURS, THEY COULD PROBABLY MAKE THEIRS.
SO I BET THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT GO TO BOTH AND THEN THERE WOULD BE THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD GO TO BOTH.
AND THEN THE UM, SECOND ITEM, UH, BEFORE I LET ALEX TALK ABOUT THE COUNCIL SESSION IS THAT, UM, WE HAD BRIEFLY TALKED ON OUR TOUR, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T MAKE MORE COPIES OF THINGS, BUT, UM, ABOUT MULTI-SPORT COURTS AT COMMUNITY IN THAT, UM, RUNDOWN BASKETBALL COURT AREA.
SO I'M GONNA PASS AROUND THESE ILLUSTRATIONS, BUT THIS SHOWS HOW THE COURT COULD BE CONSTRUCTED, UM, WITH MULTIPLE SPORTS ON IT.
THIS IS SHOWING PICKLEBALL, VOLLEYBALL, AND BASKETBALL ALL IN THOSE SPACES.
UM, SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CHANGE OVER THE TIMES THAT DIFFERENT THINGS ARE OPERATING, UM, OUT THERE AND COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A SCHEDULE FOR WHEN WHAT SPORT IS IS SET UP OUT THERE.
BUT, UM, I THOUGHT I'D JUST PASS THOSE AROUND FOR EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT OVER THE COURSE OF THE EVENING.
WE'LL CIRCLE BACK ON IT AND THEN, UM, I'M GONNA DEFINITELY NEED YOUR HELP ON COLORS IF WE WANNA GO THIS DIRECTION.
UM, THERE'S A NUMBER OF COMPANIES THAT OFFER VERY SIMILAR MATERIAL, UM, THAT WOULD BE USED OUT THERE, BUT, UM, THESE GUYS ARE ON THE STATE PURCHASING CONTRACT, SO WE COULD LIKELY GO WITH THEM AS LONG AS THEIR PRICE SEEMS COMPETITIVE.
UM, I'LL PASS YOU ON THE COLORS TOO 'CAUSE THAT'S FINE.
SARAH, THERE'S CURRENTLY ONE COURT HERE THOUGH, RIGHT? THERE ARE CURRENTLY TWO BASKETBALL COURT, TWO FULL-SIZE BASKETBALL COURTS AT COMMUNITY.
THAT'S THEN ALL I HAD ON TO YOU ALEX, UH, IN THE MEETING TUESDAY NIGHT.
UH, WE, UH, GAVE IT AN ABBREVIATED PRESENTATION BECAUSE THEY HAD A LOT OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
BUT THE, UM, THE ONE THING THAT I I BROUGHT FROM THE MEETING WAS, UM, ONE OF THE COUNCILWOMEN ASKED ME DID WE HAVE, UH, UH, PLANS TO INCLUDE A PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT FOR TEENAGERS.
I'M A LITTLE RELUCTANT TO DO THAT AND I KIND OF TOLD HER IN A POLITE WAY, I DON'T THINK WE ARE READY FOR THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE PICKLEBALL IS A GAME OF STRICT RULES AND THINGS YOU CAN DO AT CERTAIN TIMES.
AND A LOT OF THE KIDS I'VE SEEN AT THE WHY THEY THINK BECAUSE THEY CAN HIT THE BALL AND THEY ARE VERY MOBILE, THAT THEY CAN PLAY PICKLEBALL, BUT THEY ARE NOT REALLY PLAYING PICKLEBALL RULES.
IN OTHER WORDS, EVERYBODY'S HITTING THE BALL, BUT THEY ARE VIOLATING ALL THE RULES OF PICKLEBALL.
SO I'M A LITTLE CAUTIOUS ABOUT DOING THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I'VE SEEN HOW A BUNCH OF TEENAGERS WHEN THEY HYPED UP CAN BEHAVE.
NOW, I THOUGHT IN ORDER TO SATISFY HER REQUIREMENT, I KNOW WHERE SHE WAS GOING WITH THIS.
SHE WANTED TO PLAN SOME KIND OF ORGANIZED ACTIVITY IN THE PARKS FOR THE TEENAGERS.
AND I WANT TO GO BACK TO SOMETHING THAT WE TRIED HERE EARLIER THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT.
IT WAS AN INDOOR VOLLEYBALL, IT, A BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT THAT NEVER PANNED OUT WITH WHAT, UH, SARAH IS TRYING TO DO HERE.
GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO MAYBE ORGANIZING A BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT THAT CAN BE DONE OUTSIDE.
IN OTHER WORDS FOR TEENAGE MAYBE 10 TO 15 OR THE YOUNGER KIDS.
AND UH, THAT WAY YOU CAN GET THE COMMUNITY OUT THERE AND HAVE THE PARENTS AND THE CHILDREN OUT.
SO I, I'M, I'M REALLY JUST DOING IT FOR PICKLEBALL.
I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WILL WORK RIGHT NOW.
BUT I THINK SOMETHING LIKE BASKETBALL, UH, I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT VOLLEYBALL, BUT I THOUGHT MAYBE BASKETBALL WOULD BE SOME WAY WE COULD PROBABLY LOOK AT TRYING TO ORGANIZE THAT AND GET THE KIDS OUT.
NOW SOME OF YOU, I'M LOOKING AROUND BECAUSE SOME OF YOU HAVE YOUNG CHILDRENS THAT ARE PROBABLY PLAYING SOME SPORT, WHETHER IT'S SOCCER OR BASEBALL OR BASKETBALL, COULD PROBABLY GIVE SOME IDEAS ON HOW TO ORGANIZE THIS AND GET IT GOING.
AND I THINK WE HAVE TO BE DONE PROBABLY AND DONE IN SUMMER MONTHS SO THE KIDS OUTTA SCHOOL COULD BE A FULL DAY EVENT AND UM, SATISFY HER REQUIREMENT.
'CAUSE SHE TOLD ME PERSON LOOK AT THE TEENAGERS TO GET THEM SOMETHING TO DO IN THE PARK.
NOW WE ALSO WAS THINKING ABOUT MAYBE A DISC GOLF TOURNAMENT.
I DON'T PLAY DISC GOLF, BUT IF ANYONE HAS ANY IDEAS ON HOW TO MAYBE PUT THAT TOGETHER AND DO IT FOR A ONE DAY EVENT OR FIELD ACTIVITIES.
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SO LET'S THINK ABOUT THAT.AND WHEN WE COME BACK IN JANUARY, WE CAN HAVE SOME IDEAS THEN, OR KNOW HOW TO GET THAT STARTED FOR THE SUMMITS ERA.
NOW MOVING ON TO THE, UH, ALEX APOLOGIZE, JUST, UM, UH, THROUGH SOME CONNECTIONS THAT, THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH THROUGH WORK.
THERE IS A LOCAL, UM, DISC CLUB.
I, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE FULL NAME OF IT.
BUT I KNOW THAT THEY'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TO EXPAND AND THE REACH OF, SO THAT WHEN THEY'RE YOUNG, WHEN THEY'RE OLD, THEY'LL STILL PLAY.
SO I CAN REACH OUT TO SOME FOLKS AT THE, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S A DAYTON DISC CLUB OR WHATEVER AND SEE IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD HELP FACILITATE.
MAYBE THEY MARKET IT ON THEIR WEBSITE OR WHATEVER.
BUT I, I, LET ME, UM, I'LL MAKE SOME CONNECTIONS, UM, IF NOT TOMORROW, EARLY NEXT WEEK.
AND THEN TO YOUR POINT ON, ON THE, ON THE PICKLE BALL, I KNOW YOU HAVE YOUR TOURNAMENT, RIGHT? IS THERE A WAY JUST TO SATISFY THAT QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE A SMALL TEEN BRACKET OF MAYBE THE FIRST EIGHT KIDS THAT SIGN UP? I MEAN, IT, IT WON'T, I MEAN IT WAS OFFERED AND IF IT'S FOUR KIDS, WHO KNOWS WHAT IT COULD BE.
BUT AT LEAST YOU SATISFIED THAT QUESTION AND IT MAYBE IT'S ONE COURT FOR A COUPLE HOURS THAT YOU COULD, UH, MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
UM, AND AGAIN, JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.
'CAUSE I, I WAKE YOU UP THAT I'VE SEEN IT AND THEY'RE JUST OUT, IT'S WHACK-A-MOLE WITH THAT THING, RIGHT? I MEAN THEY, THEY HAVE NO REGARD TO RULES OR ANYTHING.
THEY'RE JUST HARDER IS BETTER.
RIGHT? UH, AND AT YOU IS EVEN BETTER IF THEY HIT YOU TYPE THING.
SO, UH, BUT JUST, I'M JUST ADDING MY 2 CENTS WORTH ON THAT.
WELL, I'M SORRY BRIAN, GO AHEAD.
WELL, WITH PICKLEBALL WITH THE TEENAGERS AND ALL THAT, AND I WAS ALSO THINKING ABOUT LIKE A YOUNG ADULT, IT'S LIKE THE COLLEGE AGE JUST BECAUSE I DO KNOW THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE CITY EMPLOYEES THAT DO HAVE LIKE GRANDDAUGHTER DAUGHTER THAT'S ACTUALLY, AND SHE'S A HUBER RESIDENT ALSO.
THEY JUST STARTED A, UH, CLUB, CLUB PICKLEBALL TEAM AND SHE'S THE CLUB PRESIDENT.
AND THEN ALSO SHE PLAYS WITH MY DAUGHTER THAT PLAYS PICKLEBALL AND THEY'RE NOT THE TYPE THAT JUST WHACKA BALL, YOU KNOW, THEY ACTUALLY PLAY PICKLEBALL FOLLOW THE PICKLEBALL RULES.
AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A GROUP OF FORMER WAYNE GRADS THAT DO PLAY.
IT IS A, A LOT OF 'EM DO GO TO UD AND AT WRIGHT STATE.
SO THERE IS A, A GROUP OF YOUNG ADULTS, TEENAGERS THAT DO PLAY PROPER PICKLEBALL RULES IN THE AREA.
NOW I THINK THE YOUNG ADULTS ARE GREAT AND WE INCLUDE THEM IN OUR TOURNAMENT SOMETIMES WHEN WE ARE DOING IT, IT'S A 18 AND OVER AND THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE BECAUSE IF YOU'RE DEALING WITH 18 AND OVER, IT'S EASY TO UM, YOU DON'T ASSUME YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PROBLEM THAT WITH DISCIPLINE.
YOU DEALING WITH 15-YEAR-OLD KIDS, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET IF THE PARENTS ARE NOT THERE.
AND UH, I'M NOT A GUIDANCE COUNSELOR AND I DON'T WANT TO BE OUT THERE TRYING TO DISCIPLINE A CHILD.
IT'S ONE THING TO TELL A 19-YEAR-OLD ADULT THAT YOU'RE WRONG.
BUT A 15-YEAR-OLD I'D RATHER HAVE THE PARENTS THERE OR NOT DO IT MYSELF.
YOU UM, SO TO THE POINT OF THE DAYTON DISC GOLF ASSOCIATION, I'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY REACHED OUT TO THEM.
WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT LAST MEETING ABOUT POTENTIALLY HAVING SOME SORT OF A FIELD DAY KIND OF THING.
SO, UM, AND I'M WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THEM ON POTENTIAL DATES THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO YEAH, JANUARY WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT MORE.
I WOULD HOPE TO HAVE SOMETHING BY THEN.
ALEX, CAN I SAY SOMETHING? OH, COURSE I GUESS I SAY, UM, SO DESPITE NOT WISHING TO GO FORWARD WITH A BOARD SPONSORED PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT NEXT YEAR, UM, I DO THINK THAT IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO OFFER YOUTH AND TEEN PICKLEBALL TRY IT DAYS AND LESSONS.
UM, BECAUSE WHEN WE THINK ABOUT, UM, THE NOTION THAT WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT MAYBE A MEETING, MAYBE TWO MEETINGS AGO, THAT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO TRAIN YOUR PARK USERS TO USE YOUR PARKS, UH, PICKLEBALL DISC GOLF.
THOSE SPECIALIZED SPORTS CAN BE INTIMIDATING IF PEOPLE DON'T EVER HAVE ACCESS AND INSTRUCTION TO THEM.
SO, UM, I DO THINK THAT, UM, THE YOUNG WOMAN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, BRIAN, I INTEND TO REACH OUT TO HER, REACH OUT TO OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND SEE IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO OFFER LESSONS TO OUR YOUTH COMMUNITY, UM, OUT THERE AND SEE HOW IT GOES.
BECAUSE UM, IF WE KNOW THAT WE COULD GET 10 OR 15 KIDS INTERESTED AND THEY SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE A, YOU KNOW, A PRACTICE, THEN WE MIGHT BE FEEL MORE CONFIDENT ADDING A TEEN BRACKET BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S GONNA BE THOSE 15 KIDS THAT THAT WILL SIGN UP.
TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID, WE OFFER INTRODUCTION TO PICKLEBALL IS THE WHY NOW ON WEDNESDAYS
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FOR ABOUT AN HOUR, BUT THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY.SO THE KIDS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.
BUT I THINK CHRIS HAD AN IDEA, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU CAN GET THE KIDS INVOLVED.
UH, ONCE WE GET PAST THE MIDDLE OF MARCH, OUR GYM SPACE OPENS UP SO WE COULD DO SOMETHING INDOORS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THEY TRANSITION OUTSIDE AND MAYBE DO IT FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS WHERE THEY CAN LEARN.
'CAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME TEENS THAT DO SHOW UP, UM, WHEN KIDS ARE OUTTA SCHOOL FOR HOLIDAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND MAYBE THEY CAN LEARN THE GAME DURING THAT EIGHT WEEKS AND THEN THEY CAN TRANSITION TO OUTSIDE TO FULFILL SOME OF THAT AND CONTINUE TO DO IT OUTSIDE WITH THE CLINIC OUTSIDE.
AND THEN THAT, I MEAN, AT LEAST WE COULD GET 'EM IN MM-HMM.
UM, AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE VOLLEYBALL GAMES OR PRACTICES, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET SOME GYM SPACE WHERE WE COULD AT LEAST DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THEN CREATE LIFELONG USERS AND THEN THEY CAN GO RIGHT OUT TO THE PARK COMMUNITY AT THE END OF MAY AND PLAY.
I'M SORRY, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? WOULD THERE BE A WAY TO NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRE A Y MEMBERSHIP FOR THAT? JUST OKAY.
THIS WAY THAT WE NOTICE THAT THEY YOU TO IT OPEN.
YEAH, WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND DO IT ON A FIRST KIND FIRST OR BASICALLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO, BECAUSE AGAIN, GET TOO MANY KIDS THERE WHERE YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO SPEND QUALITY TIME WITH ANYONE YOU KNOW THERE RUNNING AROUND, BANGING ON THE WALLS AND EVERYTHING WHILE YOU TALKING TO ONE GROUP.
THE OTHER GROUP IS OVER HERE, YOU KNOW, DISRUPTING THINGS.
SO I THINK THAT COULD BE WORKED OUT PRETTY EASILY.
THEN I'M GONNA ASK DENNIS TO LEAD IT ABOUT YOU.
UH, GETTING TEENAGERS IN THERE AND RIGHT.
HAVING THEM LEARN THE GAME AND I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HELPING OUT.
ALRIGHT, THEN WHAT WE'LL DO THEN I WILL GET WITH DENNIS AND CHRIS AND WORK OUT A SCHEDULE THEN TO START ANNOUNCING THAT AT THE Y THERE, BECAUSE I THINK AS CHRIS POINTED OUT, THE IDEAL TIME, THEY'LL PROBABLY START AROUND MARCH WHEN THE KIDS ARE GOING BACK OUTSIDE AGAIN.
SO I WORK WITH CHRIS, TRY AND FIND A SLOT ON THE SCHEDULE BECAUSE THAT WISE SCHEDULE IS VERY BUSY.
IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT, TRY TO GET IN THERE, YOU KNOW, AND PLAY OPEN COURT OR SOMETHING.
OPEN GYM IS VERY LITTLE SPACE IN THAT SCHEDULE.
SO, UH, I WORK WITH CHRIS AND TRY AND GET THAT SET UP OR DATE AND TIME WE CAN START DOING THAT THEN.
UH, THE MEETING, UH, TUESDAY NIGHT, WE BRIEFED THE COUNCIL ON THE, UH, THE BOARD PARTICIPATION IN THE, UH, CLOUD POLICY IMPROVEMENT PROPOSAL AND PROJECT.
UH, WHEN THE RFP WAS RELEASED, I LET 'EM KNEW THAT WE PARTICIPATED IN MAKING SURE THAT THE RFP REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAD SPECIFIED IN THEIR REQUEST TO US WERE ALL INCLUDED IN THE RFP.
WE ALSO LET THEM KNOW THAT WHEN WE RECEIVED THE SIX PROPOSALS, WAS IT SIX OR SEVEN? I THINK SIX WE RECEIVED THE SIX PROPOSALS WE LAID OUT, WHEN I SAY WE, I MEAN JUSTICE AND MYSELF WORKED WITH, UH, SARAH TO LAY OUT THE METRICS THAT WE WERE GOING TO USE TO EVALUATE THE PROPOSALS.
AND, UH, WITH THAT THEN EACH ONE OF US TOOK THE SIX PROPOSALS WITH THOSE METRICS, DID OUR OWN REVIEW, CAME BACK AND THEN WE TOOK THE SIX AND WE QUALIFIED THOSE DOWN TO THREE DURING THAT INDIVIDUAL.
THEN THE THREE OF US SAT AND WENT THROUGH IT AGAIN TOGETHER AND NARROWED DOWN TO THE ONE THAT WE THOUGHT WAS THE, UH, BEST FOR THE CITY.
AND WE CAME UP WITH MSA SPORTS IS ALONG THE MSA SPORTS, WHAT THE COMPANY CAME OUT WITH AND SIR HAD BEEN MEETING WITH THEM NOW TO TRY AND GET THEM STARTED, UH, GETTING THE CONTRACTOR AWARDED AND TAKING CARE OF THAT.
WE ARE DONE WITH OUR PART OF IT, JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, SHE COULD COME BACK TO US, BUT, UH, SHE HAS A LAYOUT AND THEY DID A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION.
THE CITY WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH IT WHEN THEY TOLD US WHAT THEY PLANNED ON DOING.
AND UM, THEY WILL, SO AFTER WE HAVE THE CONTRACT TERMS AND EVERYTHING ALL AGREED UPON, THEY'LL SET TO WORK AND ONE OF THE VERY FIRST STEPS IS THAT THEY'LL BE STARTING TO REACH OUT TO ALL THOSE COMMUNITY GROUPS, INCLUDING THIS BOARD, UM, FOR A LOT OF DETAIL ON WHAT THEY WANNA SEE WE WANNA SEE IN THAT PARK.
SO, UM, THERE'LL BE A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT, A LOT HEAVY FROM THIS BOARD, OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO ENGAGE COUNCIL.
UM, WE HAD LISTED SPECIFIC USER GROUPS THAT THEY MUST TALK TO, INCLUDING, UM, THE SOCCER AND BASEBALL SOFTBALL ORGANIZATIONS
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OUT THERE AND THE YMCA.UM, AND THEN FROM THERE THEY HAD ONE OF THEIR MOST IMPRESSIVE AREAS WAS THEIR PLAN TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEY HAD REALLY GIVEN MORE, UM, DETAILS ON HOW THEY WERE GONNA DO THAT COMMUNITY OUTREACH THAT REALLY EXCEEDED THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE RFP.
SO I THINK THAT THEY'LL BE OUT THERE TALKING AND MOVING AND SHAKING AND I'M SURE SOME OF YOUR NEIGHBORS WILL BE, HEY, I GOT HEARD ABOUT THIS THING, SHOULD I GO? AND YOU SHOULD SAY YES
SO, UM, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW MORE WHEN THOSE ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS ARE COMING OUT AND THE COURSE QUESTIONS ON THE, UH, RFP OR THE PROPOSALS AND THE CONTRACT.
ALRIGHT THEN, UH, WE ARE NOW GOING TO ITEM SIX THERE.
THE NEW BUSINESS NUMBER ONE, COST RECOVER.
OKAY, SO IF YOU WERE HERE LAST MEETING, UM, YOU PARTICIPATED IN AN ACTIVITY, THERE IS A COPY OF THAT ACTIVITY THAT CHRIS PUT, UM, ON EVERYONE'S SPOT THAT IS WORKING THROUGH A COST RECOVERY PLAN FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
SO THE RESULTS OF THAT WERE A LITTLE BIT VARIED, BUT WE SEEM TO BE PRETTY WELL ON THE SAME PAGE OF WHAT ACTIVITIES, UM, WE MIGHT EXPECT TO RECOVER LITTLE TO NO EXPENSES AND WHAT ACTIVITIES WE MIGHT EXPECT TO RECOVER MORE EXPENSES.
SO, UM, YOU HAVE THIS TAN PAPER IN FRONT OF YOU.
THESE, UM, THE TOPICS GOING FROM LEAST TO HIGHEST RECOVERY WOULD BE PARKS AND OPEN SPACES.
OUR PLAYGROUNDS JUST A PARK THAT'S SITTING THERE.
SO THOSE ARE THE BIG COMMUNITY EVENTS, REALLY OPEN TO ALL SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE.
THINK STAR SPANGLED HEIGHTS, UM, HUMAN SERVICES.
SO THAT WOULD BE WHEN WE'RE DOING THINGS THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED, UM, FOR THE WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY.
PERHAPS IT'S SPONSORING A MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM.
IT'S, UM, THINGS THAT WE THINK REALLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS OF THE COMMUNITY.
NOT JUST, UM, PROGRAMMATICALLY, BUT, UM, SERVICES, INTRO ACTIVITIES.
THESE WOULD BE LIKE THAT INTRO TO PICKLEBALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, PERHAPS IT'S INTRO TO KNITTING, UM, CARD PLAYING, INTRO TO, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUTH RUNNING CLUB, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, B AND C INITIATIVES, THOSE ARE THE BOARD AND COMMISSION INITIATIVES.
SO THOSE WOULD BE THE ACTIVITIES THAT THE BOARDING COMMISSION COMES UP WITH.
UM, THERE WAS A, THAT WAS PROBABLY THE ONE AREA WHERE THERE WAS THE MOST DISAGREEMENT ON THIS BOARD.
UM, SOME INDIVIDUALS THOUGHT THAT THOSE ACTIVITIES SHOULD BE SUBSIDIZED HEAVILY AND OTHERS THOUGHT THAT THOSE SHOULD BE THE ONES TO RECOVER THE MOST BECAUSE IF CITIZENS ARE BRINGING THINGS TO THE TABLE, THEN THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND SPONSORS AND REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND COME UP WITH, UM, WAYS TO MAKE THOSE SUSTAINABLE.
I STUCK IT HERE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE FOR NOW.
UM, ALWAYS UP FOR CONVERSATION THOUGH.
THEN INTERMEDIATE TO ADVANCED ACTIVITIES.
SO NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO ADVANCED PICKLEBALL.
WE'RE JUST GOING UP THAT LEVEL OF ADVANCEMENT OF SKILL BUILDING SPECIAL EVENTS.
THESE WOULD BE EVENTS THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC BUT ARE A LITTLE MORE SPECIALIZED.
SO, UM, THINK ABOUT IF WE WERE GONNA OFFER, UM, YOU KNOW, A, UM, HAUNTED HOUSE IN THE CLOUD HOUSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT IS OPEN TO PEOPLE, IT IS AN EVENT.
UM, BUT IT IS A LITTLE MORE SPECIALIZED.
WE DON'T EXPECT TO GET EVERYONE TO WANT TO DO A HAUNTED HOUSE.
UM, LEISURE ACTIVITIES, THESE WOULD BE THINGS THAT ARE FOR PURE LEISURE.
UM, WE AREN'T LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO GUIL BUILD ANY SKILLS AT THEM.
UM, SO THESE ARE THINGS LIKE YOU MIGHT THINK MOVIE NIGHTS, THAT SORT OF THING.
THOSE ARE RENTALS OF OUR SHELTER SPACES AND INDOOR FACILITIES.
THIS IS BOTTLED WATER POP IF WE'RE SELLING T-SHIRTS AT EVENTS, THAT SORT OF THING.
SO, UM, ON THE NEXT PAGE TO KIND OF GUT CHECK THESE INITIAL PERCENTAGES THAT I'VE ASSIGNED, UM, I DID SOME MATH.
SO IF STAR SPANGLED HEIGHTS IS A COMMUNITY EVENT AND WE WANNA COST RECOVER 5% OF COMMUNITY EVENTS, THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD RUN TO RECOVER ABOUT $9,000 OF $180,000 FOR THAT EVENT.
THAT TO ME FEELS PRETTY REASONABLE THROUGH VENDOR FEES, FINDING SPONSORSHIPS, UM, IF WE WERE TO DO OTHER TYPES OF SALES, UM, THAT IT FEELS LIKE POSSIBLE.
I DON'T KNOW, UM, THE LEVEL OF SPONSORSHIP THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST.
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SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT'S BEEN OUT THERE, BUT IF WE WERE TO GET $9,000 IN VENDOR FEES, DONATIONS, SPONSORSHIPS, OTHER THINGS THAT FEELS POSSIBLE TO ME.SO I'M NOT QUITE BULKING AT THAT 5% GOAL FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS.
FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN THOUGH
UM, 'CAUSE THERE'S A, THERE'S A TON OF EXPERTISE AND HISTORY ON THIS BOARD.
THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE THE INTRO TO ACTIVITIES.
SO IF WE'RE LOOKING TO RECOVER 25%, UM, OR NO, YEAH, 25% FOR OUR INTRO ACTIVITIES, LET'S PUT TOGETHER A QUICK INTRO TO PICKLEBALL CLASS.
WE'RE GONNA PAY THE INSTRUCTOR $40 TO BE THERE.
I'VE GOTTA BUY SUPPLIES, PADDLE AND BALLS.
I CAN'T EXPECT PEOPLE TO HAVE THEIR OWN.
I'M GONNA PUT OUT A $10 FACEBOOK PROMOTION.
SO I HAVE 110 OR $150 OF DIRECT EXPENSES WITH 20% OVERHEAD.
I NEED TO RECOVER AT LEAST $45 OF THAT.
SO IF I WAS GONNA GEAR THIS TOWARDS TWO COUPLES COMING OUT TO PLAY WITH THE INSTRUCTOR, THAT'D BE $12 A PERSON.
THAT FEELS PRETTY REASONABLE TO ME AGAIN.
SO I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD PERCENTAGE TO ASSIGN.
I'M GONNA ASSUME IN ADVANCED PICKLEBALL PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN PADDLES, SO I'M NOT BUYING ANY FOR THAT.
IT'S A BRING YOUR OWN SITUATION.
I'VE STILL GOTTA PAY THE INSTRUCTOR.
I'VE GOTTA PAY FOR THE FACEBOOK PROMOTION AND I'VE GOTTA FACTOR IN MY OVERHEAD.
SO AT A HUNDRED PERCENT COST RECOVERY THERE, I NEED TO CHARGE $15 A PERSON FOR ADV, AN HOUR OF ADVANCED PICKLEBALL FOR FOUR PEOPLE, THE SHELTER RESERVATION.
UM, IF WE'RE PAYING OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF ABOUT $35 TO SERVICE IN BETWEEN RENTALS, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE THE DIRECT EXPENSE.
I HAVE A 25% INDIRECT, UM, EXPENSE HERE BECAUSE I THINK CLOUD PARK'S EXPENSES ARE GONNA BE A LITTLE HIGHER WHEN ACTUALLY CALCULATED.
UM, AND I HAVE A NOTE ON THAT TO GO OVER, BUT THEN I MESSED UP.
I PUT 150, BUT IT SHOULD BE 1 25.
SO AT 125% WE NEED TO BE CHARGING $54 AND 68 CENTS A RENTAL.
AND THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S A CHANGE.
WE'RE CURRENTLY CHARGING $25 A RENTAL.
SO THIS WOULD SAY THAT JUST TO RECOVER THE STAFF TIME AND THE OVERHEAD, WE SHOULD REALLY BE CHARGING OVER DOUBLE WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY CHARGING.
AND IF WE CONTINUE TO THINK DOWN THIS LINE, WE MIGHT FIND A FEW MORE THINGS THAT HAPPEN LIKE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT $55 IS, IS TOLERABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY, UM, BUT MAYBE WE IMPLEMENT IT WITH SOME SORT OF PLAN OF, OF GETTING THERE.
WE KNOW THEORETICALLY RENTALS REALLY BENEFIT ONE INDIVIDUAL.
YOU'RE USING AN AMENITY THAT, UM, THE COMMUNITY'S PAYING FOR.
SO WE WANNA GET TO 125% RECOVERY, BUT MAYBE WE NEED TO START WITH JUST A HUNDRED PERCENT AND OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WE TRY AND GET OURSELF TO 125% OR SOMETHING.
SO THAT'S A CONSIDERATION THAT CAN GO IN TO THE PLAN.
UM, I ALSO HAVE THIS LITTLE ASTERISK HERE BECAUSE IN REALITY I HOPE TO CALCULATE, UM, EACH FACILITY'S ACTUAL OVERHEAD RATE, UM, BY PROGRAMMABLE AREA EACH YEAR.
SO CLOUD PARK, UM, WOULD HAVE ITS OWN OVERHEAD RATE DIVIDED BY ALL OF ITS AMENITIES AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY CENTER WOULD HAVE ITS OWN OVERHEAD RATE DIVIDED BY THE TWO RENTABLE PROGRAMMABLE SPACES.
UM, SO THAT, THAT WAY IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE EXACT.
UM, AND THEN JUST REDO THAT EACH YEAR.
SO ANY INITIAL THOUGHTS IN LOOKING AT THESE? I JUST ASSIGNED THESE NUMBERS BASED A LITTLE BIT ON MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WERE DOING AND OBVIOUSLY MAKING THEM CREEP UP THE LADDER.
I WILL ALSO ADD THAT WE PROBABLY CAN ALSO CHARGE $15 A PERSON FOR INTRO TO PICKLEBALL.
AND SO WE PROBABLY WOULD, BECAUSE WE WOULD LOOK AT WHAT OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ARE DOING, WE'D SAY, WOW, THAT'S A REALLY COMPETITIVE RATE COMPARED TO THOSE INDOOR FACILITIES DOWN THE STREET.
I THINK PEOPLE WILL WILL PAY FOR THAT.
UM, AND SO THE GOAL WOULD BE THAT WE TRY AND MEET OR EXCEED EACH OF THESE PERCENTAGES.
NOT, UM, NOT THAT WE HAVE TO ABSOLUTELY LIVE BY THEM.
IF WE FIND THAT WE COULD CHARGE MORE FOR SOMETHING, UM, WE CAN.
UM, I KNOW WITH LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE RENTALS, PARK RENTALS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE COULD PROBABLY LOOK AT, 'CAUSE I KNOW WE, WITH A LOT OF THE RENTAL FEES AT CLOUD PARK, WE'VE BEEN CHARGING WHAT HISTORICALLY WHAT METRO PARKS WAS CHARGING BACK, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO 2008.
AND PRICES ARE SURE GONE UP, BUT
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WE'VE STILL JUST KEPT IT THE SAME.BUT WE CAN ALSO LOOK WHAT, HOW MUCH KE KETTERING IS CHARGING FOR THEIR SHELTERS.
WHAT CENTERVILLE WHAT VANDALIA, WHAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES ARE CHARGING.
BUT I KNOW WITH THE ORGANIZATION, LIKE WITH, SO WE'VE LOOK AROUND AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR NUMBERS AND WE'VE HAD TO, YOU KNOW, RAISE OUR PRICES, BUT OF COURSE WE'RE LOOKING AT GOING, CAN THE COMMUNITY, HOW MUCH WOULD A COMMUNITY, HOW MUCH WILL THEY BULK IF WE JUST RAISE? SO WE ARE LIKE, OKAY, STEP, STEP, STEP, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE, IS IT LIKE $5 A YEAR? IS IT $10 A YEAR? YOU KNOW, JUST THAT.
SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DEFINITELY GOTTA LOOK AT WHAT THE OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING AND JUST TAKE IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE IF WE DO GOTTA RAISE IT UP TO LIKE 50, $55, DO, DO WE DO IT AT $25 AT A TIME? MM-HMM.
AND THERE'S ALSO OTHER COSTING MECHANISMS. THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.
UM, MAYBE YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO PAY $55 ON A TUESDAY, UH, BUT ON SATURDAY FOR MY KID'S BIRTHDAY PARTY IN JULY MIGHT BE WILLING TO STAY.
WELL WE COULD PROBABLY SAY A LITTLE MORE, YOU KNOW, SAY $75 ON A SATURDAY, SUNDAY, SUNDAY AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LESS ON THIRD A WEEK, LIKE $48 THIRD A WEEK, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PAY OVERTIME ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY AND WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE OVERTIME ON THIRD THE WEEK.
JUST A QUESTION ON THE NUMBERS.
IS THAT THE ASSUMPTION THERE? YES.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE HIGH BECAUSE IT'S UM, I BELIEVE IT'S USUALLY TWO PEOPLE SERVICING THEM.
UM, AND THEY'RE PROBABLY SPENDING MORE LIKE 20 MINUTES IN THE AREA PICKING UP LITTER, TWO PEOPLE 20 MINUTES, HOUR, MM-HMM.
SO IT'S CLOSE TO AN HOUR, 40 MINUTES, CLOSE TO AN HOUR.
BUT I THINK THE 25% INDIRECT I HAVE HERE IS PRETTY, IS LOW, UH, FOR THAT FACILITY BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH MAINTENANCE TO THAT PARK.
UM, WHEN WE FACTOR IN THE MAINTENANCE OF THE PARK AND THE CIP OF UM, THE PARK AND EVERYTHING.
SO ON SAME KIND OF THING ON THE PICKLEBALL, THE INTRO TO PICKLEBALL, IT LOOKS LIKE THE ASSUMPTION IS WE'RE BUYING NEW PADDLES AND BALLS EVERY HOUR FOR EVERY HOUR OF PLAY.
SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ONCE, ONCE THEY'RE BOUGHT, UM, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO FACTOR IN THOSE SUPPLIES ANYMORE UNLESS WE HAD TO REPLACE THEM.
SO THE NEXT TIME WE OFFER THE PROGRAM, IT WOULD LOWER THE COST OF THE PROGRAM.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR SARAH ON THAT BEFORE I I ANSWER MY QUESTION OR MAKE MY STATEMENT I SHOULD SAY.
AND THE, I REALLY CAME UP WITH EACH OF THESE SCENARIOS, UH, YOU KNOW, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD JUST TO KIND OF SEE HOW THE PERCENTAGES LOOKED.
UM, SO NONE OF THEM ARE BASED ON, ON EXACTLY SOMETHING THAT WE OFFER.
STAR SPANGLED HEIGHTS IS PRETTY CLOSE, BUT I DIDN'T PULL OUT THE EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT.
THE, THE SHOULDER RENTALS KIND OF DO A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
ONE FOR THE YOUNGER KIDS THAT GETS THEM IN THE APARTMENT, THEY MIGHT BE CELEBRATING THEIR BIRTHDAY, BUT THEN, AND THEIR FRIENDS ARE DOING WHATEVER OUT IN THE GRASS AREA FOR TWO, MOST PEOPLE GO TO A SHELTER RENTAL BECAUSE IT'S AFFORDABLE.
THEY, THEY DON'T WANT TO DROP $75 OR A HUNDRED DOLLARS ON A KID'S BIRTHDAY PARTY, THEN GO ON TOP OF THAT, BUY THE CAKE, DO THIS, DO THAT.
I THINK $25 IS CHEAP, BUT AS A PARENT FOR A PARK SHELTER THAT'S THERE, WHETHER I'M THERE OR NOT, I'M NOT PAYING OVER 50 BUCKS.
SO IF YOU DON'T RENT, I'M AT THAT PARK SHELTER FOR FREE.
YOU GOTTA LOOK, DO YOU DRIVE THE PRICE SO HIGH THAT YOU STOP PEOPLE? 'CAUSE IT'S FREE MONEY, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
THE THE MAINTENANCE GUYS ARE GONNA GO PICK UP TRASH ANYWAY, WHETHER THAT SHELTERS RENT IT OR NOT.
SO YOUR SHELTERS ARE BASICALLY FREE INCOME 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA UPKEEP THEM BECAUSE YOU WANT THEM.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LOOK AT.
SPEAKING OF LIKE RUNNING AN ORGANIZATION, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT IS MY PRICE POINT? WHEN DO I PRICE PEOPLE OUT OF MY BUSINESS? I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
WHAT AM I OFFERING TO PEOPLE THAT COME UPCHARGING FOR THIS? SO, YOU KNOW, VAN DE'S CHARGING 50, SURETY 50 BUT TO, TO GO WITH CENTERVILLE AND KETTERING, I DON'T, I DEFINITELY NOT CENTERVILLE, MAYBE KETTERING, BUT I WOULDN'T BASE OUR PRICES ON CENTERVILLE'S OR SPRING WORLDS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WELL, I LIKE THE IDEA THAT BRIAN AND UH,
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SARAH WORKED ON THERE ABOUT DIFFERENT RATES FOR THE, DURING THE WEEK AND THE WEEKEND BECAUSE I COULD, UH, I KNOW FOR SURE THAT THE DEMAND IS GOING TO BE ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS WHEN THE PARENTS ARE OFF OF WORK.SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE WERE GOING TO FOLLOW WHAT CHRIS SUGGESTED AND SET THAT PRICE, HIGH PRICE ON THE WEEKEND AND MAYBE ON THE WEEK, YOU KNOW, HARVEST, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE A LOWER RATE.
BUT, UM, I KIND OF LIKE THAT IDEA.
FIND OUT WHERE WE CAN SET THE HIGH END AND THEN USE A DIFFERENT RATE, YOU KNOW, DURING THE WEEK THERE.
AND, BUT ALSO, YEAH, I, IT DOES A LOT DOES DEPEND ON THE MARKET AND RIGHT BEFORE SETTING ANY FEES, LOOKING AT THE, AND I ALSO WITH THAT, AS YOU LOOK AT LAST YEAR'S NUMBER, THIS YEAR'S NUMBER NEXT YEAR, YOU CAN KNOW HOW DO I, DO I KEEP IT WHERE IT IS OR COULD I RAISE IT AGAIN? THERE IS A POINT WHERE YOU GOING HIT A BREAKING POINT WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO CALL YOU ANYMORE.
SO EVERY WEEKEND HAS BEEN FORTH LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR YOU CAN RAISE IT A BIT THAT IF YOU DON'T WANNA PRICE ANYBODY OUT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF THE DEMAND IS THERE, YOU CAN CONTINUE TO RAISE THAT UNTIL YOU FIND OUT WHEN THEY QUIT CALLING.
DO, DO ALL THE SHELTERS HAVE LIKE A POWER SOURCE PLUGIN? SOMETHING? NO, NO, NO.
BUT THEY ALL HAVE LIGHTS THAT DO IT.
OKAY, SO YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD BASE THAT UTILITY UP WITH PLACES THAT DO HAVE THE POWER PLUGINS.
SO IT WOULD BE BASED OFF OF THE UTILITY FOR THE FACILITY AS A WHOLE.
SO I'D LOOK AT THE F THE UTILITIES THAT WE'RE PAYING ON CLOUD PARK TO EXPENSE THEM OVER THE DIFFERENT WAYS TO RECOUP THAT MONEY.
SO THAT OVERHEAD RATE WOULD BE DIVIDED BETWEEN ALL OF OUR RESERVABLE SPACES FOR THAT PARK.
NOT JUST SHELTERS, BUT WE'D BE LOOKING AT INTO OUR BALL FIELD AGREEMENTS, UM, INTO OUR SPECIAL EVENT FEES FOR PEOPLE LOOKING TO USE THE PARK.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SARAH? ARE YOU BRAINSTORM? GO AHEAD CASEY.
ARE THERE TIERED RENTAL FEES LIKE FOR THE SHELTERS THAT DON'T HAVE ELECTRIC ACCESS VERSUS THE ONES THAT DO THEY SHOULD BE DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS? THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY BUT THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
THE MORE AMENITIES IT OFFERS, THAT ONE WOULD BE HIGHER THAN JUST BASIC ROOF OVER TABLES.
ANY OTHER QUESTION ON THE RENTAL FEES OR RESERVATION? I THINK I'D ALSO, SORRY.
I THINK I'D ALSO LOOK INTO DOING UH, DIFFERENT TIME SLOTS TOO.
'CAUSE A LOT OF TIMES FOR A KIDS' BIRTHDAY PARTY YOU'RE NOT GONNA NEED 12 HOURS.
BUT IF YOU HAVE 12 TWO ANOTHER PARTY FROM FOUR TO SIX, THEN YOU HAVE TWO RENTAL FEES VERSUS ONE FOR ONE USE.
BUT YOU YEAH, YOU BETWEEN THE RENTAL, THE EXTRA RENTAL.
NONE OF THESE ARE CHANGING TOMORROW.
THIS IS STILL THEORY, UH, THAT I'LL KEEP, I'LL BRING BACK AS IT CONTINUES TO GET SOLIDIFIED.
AND THEN I IMAGINE IT'D BE SEVERAL MONTHS FROM NOW THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY GO TO COUNCIL AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING FOR HOW WE WANNA INVEST THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY AND WHERE WE THINK THAT WE CAN REDUCE THAT BURDEN ON THEM.
UH, I WAS ABOUT TO SAY, UH, MY FAMILY, WE HAVE USED CLOUD PARK LOT TO RENT SHELTERS, BUT WE'VE ALSO USED DOWN THE WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP, OAK GROVE AND THEN THE SPRINGBROOK AREA.
SO I COULD ASK THEM, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I, I'M PRETTY SURE LIKE OAK GROVE DOWN THERE, IT'S SET BY HOURS AND I THINK PATRICIA ALLEN ALSO IS SET BY LIKE AN HOUR, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE HOUR BLOCKS.
SO I'LL DOUBLE CHECK WITH THEM.
BUT, AND THEN HOW THEY DO IT, I'LL PROBABLY GET PRICES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
'CAUSE I KNOW PATRICIA ALLEN, WE HAD UH, PLUGINS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME SHELTERS AT OAK GROVE THAT WE GET AND IT'S HARD TO GET BECAUSE YOU'RE ABLE TO FIT LIKE ABLE TO FISH OFF OF THE ONE SHELTER.
SO I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE NOTHING LIKE THAT HERE, BUT IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S A SET BLOCK TIME PERIOD, SO I'LL CHECK INTO THAT OVER THE WEEKEND.
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I'VE ONLY BEEN TO A COUPLE OF THE COMMUNITY EVENTS WE DO.'CAUSE IT'S ALWAYS WHEN WE'RE OUT OF TOWN OR KIDS PLAYING SPORT OR, I DUNNO.
SO, SO THE STAR SPAN HEIGHTS, DO WE HAVE, WE HAVE PARKING AT CLOUD PARK THAT THEY CAN PARK IN, RIGHT? YES.
DO WE CHARGE FOR THAT? WE DON'T.
I MEAN THAT I WOULD PUT MORE INTO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE YOU'RE THROWING A SPECIAL EVENT CHARGE FIVE BUCKS FOR PARKING.
IF WE CHARGED $1 FOR PARKING, I THINK WE'D HIT THE YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
COMING AND PARKING, YOU KNOW, DOING BLACK TOPS, NOT CHEAP.
THAT'S ALL PART OF THE UPBEAT.
AND YOU'RE PUTTING THAT MANY VEHICLES ON YOUR, ON YOUR BLACK TOP FOR THOSE EVENTS.
YOU CAN'T GO TO A HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL TOGETHER WITHOUT PAYING TWO OR THREE BUCKS A PART.
SO WHY NOT SOMETHING LIKE THIS CHARGE BY, THANK YOU FOR THAT SUGGESTION.
WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE BACK TO CITY COUNCIL BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT IT OR, YES.
I THINK FOR THAT EVENT, FOR THOSE LARGE EVENTS, THEY'RE GONNA WANT IN SIGHT ON THAT.
UM, BUT THAT, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD WAY TO TO, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION.
I MEAN YOU COULD STILL DO YOUR SPONSORSHIPS AND YOUR DONATIONS AND ALL THAT, BUT I THINK PARKING EVERYWHERE YOU GO PAY PARKING.
I I WAS ABOUT SAY TOOK PARKING, UH, WITH THE SPORTS THING, I, I KNOW IN THIS AREA, NOT, NOT THAT MANY SPORT IN SOCCER, LIKE DOWN IN WARREN COUNTY THIS THE COUNTY FORCES YOU TO PAY FOR PARKING.
UH, BUT I KNOW TYPICALLY UP IN DANE AREA SOCCER THAT THEY NEVER CHARGE FOR PARKING.
BUT WHEN YOU GO DOWN TO TENNESSEE, YOU GO TO INDIANA, YOU GO TO, YOU KNOW, MISSOURI, ALL THAT.
IT'S ALWAYS DON'T THEY CHARGE A PARKING WHEN THEY DO THEIR WATER CLASSIC? NO, NO, NO.
I I, I ACTUALLY SUGGESTED IT AND THEY SAID NO, WE WILL NEVER DO THAT.
WE DID IT ONE YEAR, WAYNE PEEWEE DID.
'CAUSE WE WERE OUT THERE COLLECTING MONEY WHEN THEY PARKED AND YEAH.
BUT YEAH, $10 CARS GOOD MONEY MIGHT MAKE PEOPLE CARPOOL TO, YOU KNOW, MOM AND DAD DON'T TAKE TWO CARS.
WELL I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THE PARKING FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, I MEAN CHARGING THE PARK FOR SPECIAL EVENTS DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A BAD IDEA.
UH, I DO THINK THOUGH, YOU DON'T WANT TO START CHARGING THE FEE YOU PLAY WHEN YOU GO TO THE RED SCHEME.
AND SINCE NOW I'M SAYING I JUST BEING FACE, BUT I'M SAYING A BUCK OR TWO I THINK WOULDN'T BE ALL BAD, YOU KNOW, FOR JULY 4TH OR FOR THE, UM, NIGHTTIME EVENT, YOUR FIREWORKS OR WHATEVER.
BUT INSTEAD AT A MINIMUM FEE SO THAT ALMOST ANYBODY GOING IN CAN COME UP WITH A DOLLAR OR TWO, I THINK, YOU KNOW AND COVER YEAH.
HAVE BE AT LEAST MORE A GALLON OF GAS.
I MEAN, YOU GOTTA THINK OF IT THAT WAY.
YOU WANNA MAKE MONEY AND YOU WANT TO RECOUP COSTS.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE STANDING THERE TO PLAY MONEY FOR PARKING.
AND MAYBE YOU DO SOMETHING TO WHERE IF THEY HAVE A HANDICAP PLACARD, THEY DON'T PAY.
I DON'T, I SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT, IF YOU WANT TO WORRY ABOUT THE, THE ELDERLY AND, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND THAT GOES ALONG WITH WHAT THE, UH, MAYOR SAID TUESDAY NIGHT ABOUT WRITING TRAFFIC TICKETS.
HE DIDN'T WANT TO GET THE REPUTATION THAT WE ARE WRITING TRAFFIC TICKETS TO PAY THE BILLS.
SO I THINK THE SAME THING HERE.
WE DON'T WANT TO SET UP A FEE THAT WHERE YOU GOTTA PAY TO COME OUT TO THE JULY 4TH EVENT, UH, FOR THE FIREWORKS.
BUT I'M SAYING A A DOLLAR OR TWO I THINKING THAT.
I DON'T SEE THAT BEING, I BET YOU IF YOU ASK MOST RESIDENTS IN THIS, IN THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, IF THEY THINK IT COST $150,000 TO DO THAT EVENT, THEY'RE GONNA TELL YOU THERE'S NO WAY I, I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND THAT'S CRAZY.
SO WHEN THEY FIND OUT WHAT THEIR, WHAT THE AMOUNT THE CITY'S PUTTING OUT FOR THEM, $5.
MOST PEOPLE THINK IT'S LIKE A 50,000.
IT'S NOT, I DIDN'T JUST PAY $20 A TICKET FOR FOUR PEOPLE.
AND, AND THEN PARKING, IT'S, IT WAS JUST FOR PARKING.
SO I, I'D BE, I'D PAY, I'D PAY FIVE BUCKS TO PARK.
LIKE I SAID, THE PE I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT YOU PAID FOR THESE EVENTS AND MAYBE THEY SHOULD THAT THAT WOULD CUT DOWN SOME OF YOUR DRIFT ON, HEY, I NEED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CHARGING FOR PARKING INDUSTRY FOR WHY 50,000 TO DO THIS.
DO WE WANT ONE NIGHT EVENT? RIGHT.
MANY ROADS WE COULD PAVE AROUND HERE FOR $50,000.
SO I MEAN, JUST SO DO WE WANT TO RECOMMEND A, UH, THAT THE CITY START CHARGING A FEE FOR PARKING? NO.
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OKAY.AND THIS POLICY WILL BE THE GUIDING FOUNDATION FOR ANYTHING THAT WE OFFER IN THE FUTURE.
AND WE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS AND COMMUNICATE THE VALUE OF HAVING THIS TO HELP US, UH, UNDERSTAND OUR COSTING, UM, AND PRICING AND THEN SEE HOW THAT'S GONNA AFFECT OUR ACTUAL OPERATIONS.
UM, SO I CAN RUN SOME MORE THINGS THROUGH.
UM, AGAIN, THESE WERE JUST MADE, THESE WERE MADE UP.
UM, I DIDN'T HAVE PULL THE EXACT NUMBER FOR STAR SPANGLED, UM, BUT IT IS A LOT OF MONEY THAT WE PAY FOR IT AND WE CAN RUN SOME MORE EXACT THINGS THAT WE DID LIKE LAST YEAR, REALLY TANGIBLE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TO, UM, AND SEE IF THESE PERCENTAGES ARE STILL ALIGNING.
AND THEN IF THEY ARE, THAT'S WHEN I WRITE THE POLICY AND THAT'S WHEN I, YOU KNOW, COME BACK, BRING IT TO YOU, YOU DECIDE IF YOU'D LIKE TO OFFICIALLY RECOMMEND IT.
AND THEN, UM, WE MOVE TOWARDS THAT AS A WAY OF ESTABLISHING OUR FEES SO THAT UM, IF I WANT TO OFFER BARBIE DOLL TEA PARTY, I DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD OR TO COUNSEL AND SAY HOW MUCH SHOULD I CHARGE FOR BARBIE DOLL TEA PARTY? I HAVE THIS EQUATION AND NOW YOU ALL KNOW THAT I'M CHARGING BARBIE DOLL TEA PARTY BASED OFF OF THIS.
UH, IS THE IDEA THAT IT WOULD BE FIXED OR IS THAT JUST LIKE A STARTING POINT? STARTING POINT? SO IT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM GOAL.
LIKE WE ABOUT SOME FLEXIBILITIES WITH THAT STORY.
SO WE HAVE A MINIMUM GOAL OF, OF RECOVERING AT LEAST THAT MUCH OF THE EXPENSES.
IT'S BEEN EXTREMELY VALUABLE CONVERSATION.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONING ON THAT BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY, THAT WAS ITEM ONE, COST RECOVERY POLICY ITEM TWO THERE.
UH, SARAH, THAT'S YOU ALSO, I THINK, RIGHT? YEP.
UM, OKAY, SO YOU HAVE SHOULD HAVE A PIECE OF PAPER IN FRONT OF YOU THAT IS LIKE THE LAST, I HOPE I DIDN'T STUFF IT IN ONE OF THESE ENVELOPES.
UM, BUT IT WOULD BE THE LAST PAGE, UM, CURRENTLY OF THOSE PARK STANDARDS.
I MIGHT NOT, I JUST MIGHT NOT HAVE IT.
UM, I MIGHT HAVE TO BORROW IT.
UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT SPECIAL USE PARKS, UM, I HAVE DESIGNATED THESE AS THE CANAL LOCK PARK FLYER, FIELD, DIAL PARK SENIOR CENTER, THE LAND SURROUNDING THE SENIOR CENTER AND THE LAND SURROUNDING THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
UM, SO THE STANDARDS FOR THESE WOULD BE THAT SPECIAL USE PARKS ARE FREQUENTED BY VISITORS OF HUBER HEIGHTS AND THE SURROUNDING REGION.
THEY OFTEN HAVE A UNIQUE AMENITY OR CONSIST OF LAND SURROUNDING ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, FACILITY OR OPERATION.
THESE DESIGNATED AREAS ARE TO BE MAINTAINED IN A MANNER THAT COMPLIMENTS THEIR OPERATION AND PURPOSE REALLY.
THEY CAN BE INCREDIBLY DIVERSE.
SO THERE'S LIKELY SOME GREEN SPACE AND LIKELY SOME TRASH CANS.
UM, FROM THERE IT CAN REALLY CHANGE BASED ON IF IT'S A DOG PARK VERSUS A HISTORICAL PARK VERSUS THE, YOU KNOW, PATIO SEATING FOR A SENIOR CENTER.
UM, PASSIVE PROGRAMMING MAY MAKE UP THE BULK OF THESE FACILITIES AS VISITORS ARE INVITED TO, OH, I DIDN'T EVEN FINISH THAT SENTENCE.
UM, SO BASICALLY IT'S MOSTLY PASSIVE PROGRAMMING BECAUSE THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DOG PARK, WE'RE NOT OUT ACTIVELY OUT THERE TELLING PEOPLE HOW TO USE IT AND GUIDING THEM.
SAME WITH THE CANAL LOCKED LOOKING TO SEE THAT HISTORIC SITE.
UM, SAME WITH A PATIO, UM, ON THE SENIOR CENTER.
THEY WOULD BE OUT THERE, UM, HAVING THEIR COFFEE, DOING THEIR OWN THING.
UM, THESE PARKS ARE LIKELY, WILL HAVE VERY LITTLE ACTIVE PROGRAMMING BECAUSE THEY'RE OFTEN MAINTAINED FOR A SOLE PASSIVE PURPOSE LIKE DOG PARK VISITS LIKE HISTORICS.
UM, SO A SOLE PASSIVE PURPOSE, HISTORIC OR CULTURAL PRESERVATION OR AS PASSIVE LANDS SURROUNDING A BUILDING OR OPERATION.
THE MAINTENANCE STANDARD IS THAT THE GREEN SPACE WILL BE MAINTAINED EITHER IN-HOUSE OR BY A CONTRACTOR.
ANNUAL PLANTING SHOULD AUGMENT BEDS, UM, AND FEATURES AS IS SUSTAINABLE WITH WATER ACCESS AND MAINTENANCE ABILITY.
UM, UNIQUE DEVIATION DESIGN AND DECOR IS EXPECTED BETWEEN SPECIAL USE PARKS.
SO THESE ONES AREN'T GONNA LOOK AS UNIFORM.
OUR DOG PARK IS NOT GONNA HAVE THE SAME FEEL AS OUR, UM, HISTORIC CANAL LOCK.
UM, IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE THE SAME FEEL AS OUR NATURE PATHWAY AMENITY STANDARDS AS AMENITIES ARE REPLACED, EFFORTS WILL BE MADE TO PROVIDE UNIFORMITY IN THE SELECTIONS OF BENCHES, TRASH CANS, PICNIC TABLES WITHIN THE PARK.
BUT AGAIN, THESE UM, MIGHT BE QUITE DIFFERENT FROM OTHER PARKS DUE TO THE UNIQUE ATTRIBUTES OF A SPECIAL USE PARK.
SIGNAGE STANDARDS PARK HOURS SHALL BE POSTED IF WARRANTED.
UM, ANY SHELTER STRUCTURES AVAILABLE FOR RENT SHALL HAVE INFORMATION ON RESERVATION
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PROCEDURES POSTED GENERAL INFORMATION, SIGNAGE WITH DEPARTMENT CONTACT INFO WILL BE POSTED NEAR THE MAIN PARK ATTRACTION.AND GENERALLY LARGER RULE SIGNS MAY NOT BE NEEDED DUE TO THE LACK OF AMENITIES AT A FACILITY.
THINK CANAL LOCK, THERE'S NO RULES THERE.
OR THE HIGHLY SPECIALIZED AMENITIES THINK DOG PARK THAT HAVE THEIR OWN SET OF RULES.
SO THEY'RE NOT THE BIG GENERAL PARK RULES.
PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO BE IN YOUR FACE.
SO WOULD THESE SPECIAL USE PARKS, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO DO LIKE A COMMUNITY EVENT TO SHOWCASE THE PARK, FOR INSTANCE, FOR THE FLYER PARK, A DOG PARK, DO AN ADOPTION EVENT, ONE DAY BIKE SKATE PARK, DOING A SKILLED SHOWCASE, CAME UP WITH THE BIKE SKATE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, UM,
UM, I MEAN YES THERE'S SPECIAL USES, BUT YOU CAN STILL CATER TO THOSE AND INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK, UM, I THINK ALL OF US HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ACTIVE PROGRAMMING AND CERTAINLY MORE ACTIVE PROGRAM THAN THEY'VE EVER HAD BEFORE.
UM, BUT THEY'RE, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO STILL BE LESS PROGRAMMED THAN LIKE YOUR CLOUD PARK, EVEN YOUR SHO GATE PARK.
I MEAN THESE WOULD BE LIKE ONE OFF PROBABLY ONCE, TWICE A YEAR.
THERE, THERE'S SOMETHING ACTIVE OUT THERE, BUT I'D LOVE TO DO LIKE A HISTORY WALK, UM, WITH THE PARTNER, WITH THE HISTORY, UM, HISTORICAL SOCIETY TO WALK THROUGH THE CANAL AND TALK ABOUT IT AND UM, YES, ABSOLUTELY THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON ITEM TWO THERE.
ALRIGHT THEN SARAH, WE ARE GOING TO ITEM THREE.
I ALSO, THE LAST PAGE I HANDED YOU, UM, IS JUST A QUICK TYPE UP PROPOSAL OF CREATING A PARKS BOARD ANNUAL SCHEDULE.
SO THIS WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO POLISH IT UP AND TURN IT INTO ACTUAL POLICY, UM, THAT WE USE YEAR TO YEAR.
SO IT OUTLIVES THE MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD.
IT OUTLIVES ME, IT, IT GOES ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS IN PERPETUITY SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT DO WE TALK ABOUT EVERY YEAR AT EVERY ONE OF THESE MEETINGS.
UH, AND OBVIOUSLY THERE WILL BE TIMES WHERE WE NEED TO BUMP THINGS HERE AND THERE, BUT WE KNOW THAT EVERY YEAR WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THESE AND THEN, UM, EVERY YEAR WE'RE EVEN GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS ANNUAL SCHEDULE TO SEE IF IT NEEDS AMENDED.
PERHAPS WE HAVE DECIDED WE ARE DONE WITH EARTH DAY EVENTS, TAKE IT OFF THERE, WE'VE REPLACED IT WITH SPORTING EVENTS OR SOMETHING.
UM, BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT IN JANUARY EACH YEAR WE START TALKING ABOUT EARTH DAY AND ARBOR DAY, THE SPECIFICS AND ASSIGNING ROLES.
UM, IN FEBRUARY I'D LIKE TO DO, UM, A MORE ROBUST REVIEW OF THE YEAR PREVIOUS, UH, ANNUAL REPORT.
YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE THINK, UM, ATTENDED THESE DIFFERENT EVENTS? UM, HOW DID OUR BUDGET GO? WHAT SORT OF PROJECTS DID WE ACCOMPLISH? THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, MARCH, WE DO HAVE A COUNCIL UPDATE IN MARCH.
SO THAT WOULD BE OUR CHAIR GOING TO COUNCIL.
UM, IT'D ALSO BE A GOOD TIME TO REVIEW THOSE PARK STANDARDS FOR OUR PRE-SEASON STARTUP SO THAT WE'RE ALL KIND OF ON THE SAME PAGE.
ON THAT NOTE, POSSIBLY ASSIGNING SOME SECRET SHOPPER ROLES IF PEOPLE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SECRET SHOPPING.
THE PARKS SOMETIME OVER LIKE THE SUMMER SEASON, UM, YOU GET ASSIGNED A PARK AND YOU JUST GO.
AND THEN ONE DAY IN MY EMAIL INBOX I GET A REPORT AND I HAVE NO IDEA THAT YOU WERE THERE YESTERDAY, BUT THE TRASH CANS WERE OVERFLOWING AND YOU KNOW, UM, I KNOW YOU WON'T SEE THAT, BUT, AND THEN ALSO IN MARCH, REVIEWING THE SUMMER PROGRAMS OFFERED, UM, BY THE YMCA AND THE DEPARTMENT.
SO THE BOARD DOES A NUMBER OF AWESOME PRO UM, UM, PROJECTS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE ABOUT THE BOARD SPONSORED, UM, PROGRAMS IS THAT YOU CAN BE SO, UM, ADAPTIVE TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT IDEALLY, UM, WE KNOW THAT THE YMCA IS CONSTANTLY OFFERING PROGRAMS FOR THE SUMMER AND THEN IDEALLY THE DEPARTMENT WILL MOVE IN THE DIRECTION OF OFFERING MORE PROGRAMS AS WELL.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT FULL LINEUP AND APRIL, UM, WILL ACTUALLY BE OUR ARBOR DAY AND EARTH DAY TAKING PLACE.
SO THAT MEETING MIGHT NEED TO BE DEDICATED TO SOME LAST MINUTE ITEMS. UM, MAY TALK ABOUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, UM, TO BEGIN SOLIDIFYING
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IT.'CAUSE THEY USUALLY LIKE TO HAVE THAT SUBMITTED TO THEM IN JUNE OR JULY.
SO, UM, REVISITING IT EACH YEAR, JUNE, I HAVE BLANK.
WE CAN EITHER PLAY CATCH UP FOR THINGS WE DIDN'T GET, SAVE IT FOR THINGS.
UM, THIS YEAR IN JUNE, UH, OUR MEETING DOES FALL ON JUNETEENTH.
UM, SO WE'LL NEED TO DECIDE IF WE'RE MAKING UP THAT MEETING OR SKIPPING IT.
UM, THE COUNCIL UPDATE IS HELD AGAIN THE FIRST SESSION IN JULY, SO THAT'S OUR CHAIR GOING TO COUNCIL IN AUGUST.
I WANNA REVIEW THIS COST RECOVERY, UM, STRATEGY.
EVEN IF WE GET TO A REALLY GREAT, UH, PLACE WHERE WE LOVE IT, I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT ONCE A YEAR BECAUSE AS OUR PROGRAMMING CHANGES WE NEED TO GUT CHECK IT.
AS OUR SOCIETY AND ECONOMY CHANGES, WE NEED TO GUT CHECK IT.
AND ONE OF THE WAYS I THINK WE STAY SUSTAINABLE AND WE STAY RELEVANT, UM, IS THAT WE HAVE A METHOD OF SOME FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY DEPARTMENT WE'RE NOT, OR TO THE CITY.
WE'RE NOT JUST SEEN AS AN ABSOLUTE MONEY SINK.
UM, AND SO BY REVISITING THIS, IT WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING TRUE TO IT AND CONSTANTLY ADAPTING.
SO REVISITING IT EACH YEAR IN AUGUST, THEN IN SEPTEMBER, OH, SORRY, ALSO IN AUGUST, DISCUSS THE PROGRAM AND EVENTS IDEAS FOR THE NEXT YEAR, UH, BECAUSE WE'LL START TO NEED OPERATIONAL BUDGET ESTIMATES.
SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE WE REALLY, THE BOARD REALLY WANTS TO DO THIS EVENT OR YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE BOARD DOESN'T WANNA DO THIS LIKE THE TEEN PICKLEBALL, BUT IS THERE A WAY THAT THE Y OR THE CITY, UM, COULD DO SO, OR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ITSELF COULD DO SOMETHING.
SEPTEMBER AGAIN, I HAVE IT BLANK.
WE CAN FILL IT IN OR CATCH UP OCTOBER, SET THOSE ACTUAL PROGRAM DATES FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
UM, THE HUBER HUNTS AND THE YMCA TRUNK OR TREAT TAKE PLACE.
THEN IN NOVEMBER WE HAVE ANOTHER COUNCIL UPDATE.
UM, WE REVIEW THIS LIST THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, THIS ANNUAL LIST.
UM, AND THEN WE REVIEW THE MEETING DATES FOR 2025 ALSO.
UM, WHICH WOULD, YOU KNOW, THEN BE 20, 26, 27 FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.
AND THEN I HAVE DECEMBER ON HERE BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT DECEMBER IS OFTEN SKIPPED.
UH, SOMETIMES JULY SKIPPED TOO, BUT OH, OKAY.
'CAUSE IT IS, UH, AND UH, BUT I WAS LOOKING AT JUNE THAT YOU HAD EMPTY 'CAUSE KETCHUP, WHATEVER, BUT A LOT OF TIMES IT'S A LOT OF TIMES LIKE LAST MINUTE GETTING READY FOR, UH, STAR SPAND HEIGHTS.
JANUARY, THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS PER YEAR.
I THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE AT THE END OF EVERY MONTH'S MEETING TO GO BACK AND SAY, DID WE DO SOMETHING THAT WASN'T ON THIS LIST? AND JUST ADD IT.
MM-HMM
WHAT DO WE NEED TO UPDATE? I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO, UH, USE THIS BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU AN ADVANCED NOTICE OF WHAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT BEFORE COMING TO THE MEETING OR IF MEETINGS ARE COMING UP, YOU CAN BE PROACTIVE, YOU KNOW, AND COMING WITH SOME IDEAS OR PLAN TO KEEP THINGS MOVING.
SO, UH, AND I THINK, LIKE YOU SAID, WE CAN F IN AS WE GO AND WE JUST FOUND OUT HERE ABOUT THE, UH, THE PARADE PREPARATION AND THE ELECTION.
SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO FILL THIS IN AND WE'LL KNOW IN ADVANCE WHAT'S COMING UP.
WE'RE BY NO MEANS LIMITED TO ONLY TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS, BUT THIS IS AS MUCH FOR ME AS IT AS IT IS YOU TO KNOW WHAT I GOTTA PREPARE EACH TIME.
ANY OTHER INPUTS OR QUESTIONS FOR SARAH ON THAT ANNUAL MEETING TOPICS? I THINK BRIAN HAS, UH, THE, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE GETTING MORE INVOLVED WITH THE HUBER HUNTS, UH, YOU HAVE THAT LISTED LIKE, 'CAUSE WE'RE, IT TAKES PLACE IN OCTOBER AND SEPTEMBER IS EMPTY, BUT SEPTEMBER IS PROBABLY ACTUALLY TOO LATE TO ACTUALLY START TALKING ABOUT THAT.
WE MIGHT NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT THAT JULY, AUGUST, JUNE, YEAH.
OR YEAH, JUNE JUST BECAUSE HOW BIG THAT, THAT ACTUALLY IS.
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BUT YEAH, IT DOES TAKE COURSE, BUT IT, IT LOOKS LIKE JUST BECAUSE OF THE SCHEDULING OF ALL THE SOCCER TOURNAMENTS AND STUFF THAT'S GOING ON THAT HAPPENS IS A SOCCER AND OCTOBER SYDNEY THAT'S DOES THAT BASICALLY, TYPICALLY THIS HAPPENS WITH THE FIRST WEEKEND OF OCTOBER, SO WHEN OUR MEETINGS THE SECOND, SO SECOND WEEK.SO WE DEFINITELY NEED TO FINISH EVERYTHING UP IN SEPTEMBER.
ANY OTHER INPUT INPUTS ON ITEM FOUR ANNUAL MEETING TOPICS? IF NOT, THEN WE'LL GO ON TO ITEM SEVEN.
OH, DID I SKIP NUMBER THREE? I'M SORRY.
DEVELOP, UH, DELIVER THE PARK MASTER PLAN CHECKLIST.
YOU HAVE THIS STAPLED, SO SORRY ALEX.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT AT ALL.
UH, IT IS JUST PLEASE TAKE IT HOME AND READ IT BECAUSE NOW THAT WE'VE KIND OF LOOKED AT OUR STANDARDS AND WE'VE DONE THE TOURS OF OUR PARKS AND WE KNOW WHAT OUR CIP KIND OF IS LOOKING LIKE FOR THE NEXT YEAR, UM, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN JANUARY WHEN WE RETURN AND SEE IS THERE STUFF THAT, HEY, WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED IT, LET'S CHECK IT OFF.
OR WOW, THAT'S NOT RELEVANT ANYMORE.
LET'S PUT A STRIKE THROUGH IT OR WOW, WE DROPPED THE BALL.
LET'S, LET'S GET ON THAT FOR THE NEW YEAR.
ALRIGHT, ITEM UH, SEVEN ADDITIONAL BUSINESS OR ANNOUNCEMENT.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING? I AM SORRY RACHEL.
UM, I DID WANNA ASK A QUESTION.
THERE WAS A POST, I BELIEVE IT WAS ON EVERYTHING HUBER HEIGHTS EARLIER THIS WEEK.
UM, THERE WAS A LADY WHO WAS POSTING, I BELIEVE ABOUT HER AUTISTIC SON.
UM, SHE WAS ASKING FOR RECOMMENDATIONS ON PARKS IN THE AREA THAT ARE FENCE STAYED AND THERE WERE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT COMMENTED ON IT AND WERE GIVING HER RECOMMENDATIONS OF PARKS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, BUT NONE THAT WERE ACTUALLY IN HUBER HEIGHTS.
AND SO WITH ALL THE UPCOMING CONSTRUCTION GOING ON, I WANTED TO ASK IF THAT WAS A POSSIBILITY OR SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IF WE COULD, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT COUNCIL AS WELL.
UM, AND WHEN MSA WAS THERE TALKING ABOUT CLOUD, UM, I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE HOPE TO HEAR OUT OF THE, UH, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THINGS.
SO, UM, IF I DON'T BRING IT UP, PLEASE DO BRING IT UP.
UM, WHEN THEY COME TO ENGAGE US AND THEN I ASSUME I I, I'D LOVE TO INVITE THAT WOMAN INDIVIDUALLY TOO IF WE CAN GO BACK AND FIND HER TO COME BECAUSE WE NEED ADVOCATES FOR THE DISABLED COMMUNITY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTION? OKAY, ONE THING.
YEAH, ONE THING I WANTED TO BRING UP, UH, WE NORMALLY DON'T HAVE THE MEETING IN DECEMBER BECAUSE THEY USUALLY SO CLOSE TO CHRISTMAS AND UM, WE TRY TO GET EVERYTHING DONE BEFORE THEN AND START JANUARY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ELECTION OF OFFICER AND MOVE IT ON.
UM, I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY WE NEED TO HAVE A MEETING IN DECEMBER UNLESS SOMEONE CAN COME UP WITH AN IDEA TO CONVINCE ME.
I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE NOT HAVE A DECEMBER MEETING.
I WAS ABOUT TO ADD, IT'S, IT IS UH, THE BENGALS AND BROWNS THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL THAT NIGHT TOO.
SO WON'T BE HERE FOR THAT ONE.
PROBABLY BRIANNA PLAY CONTENT.
THIS, BUT THE GAME IS THE GAME.
THE GAME IS IN CINCINNATI TOO.
I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THEN THAT WE NOT HAVE THEN THE, UH, DECEMBER MEETING OR THERE ANY OBJECTION? I HAVE NONE.
THEN THE DECEMBER MEETING WILL BE CANCELED.
UM, ITEM EIGHT IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE UH, OCTOBER MINUTES? I HEARD NO.
UH, YEAH BUT NO, I READ, YEAH.
I'M, I'M ASSUMING NO MEANS I'M STYLIST MEANS YES, THEY READ IT.
OKAY, IN THAT CASE THEN I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THEN THAT THE OCTOBER MINUTES BE APPROVED AND GOT A SECOND NO MOTION AND I GOT A SECOND CASE.
ALRIGHT THEN MINUTES HAVE BEEN BEEN MOTIONED AND SECOND THAT THESE MINUTES BE APPROVED.
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ALRIGHT, IT'S APPROVED.THERE IS THE, UH, UPCOMING MEETING AND WE'VE ALREADY CITED THAT'S GOING TO BE CANCELED.
SO I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THEN THAT THIS MEETING BE ADJOURNED AND WE ARE OUT OF HERE UNTIL JANUARY.