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I'D LIKE TO CALL THE ORDER THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION[ AGENDA ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road November 18, 2024 6:30 P.M. ]
MEETING.UH, TODAY IS NOVEMBER 18TH AT SIX 30.
SARAH, COULD YOU CALL THE ROLE? YES, MS. BUR? HERE.
MR. FOX? PRESENT? MS. HENRY? HERE.
UM, I DO NOT HAVE ANY OPENING REMARKS, BUT THERE, UH, IS NO CITIZEN COMMENTS AND WE CAN DISCUSS OLD BUSINESS.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS? OKAY.
THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE ART SHOW, WHICH IS FEBRUARY 15TH.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR ARTISTS, UM, TO SIGN UP NOW AND PLAN.
UM, I DON'T HAVE TO SIGN UP OUT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT DATA WE NEED TO COLLECT FOR THE, THE SCHOLARSHIP.
SO, UM, I WAS HOPING CHERYL HAD ANY SORT OF GUIDELINES OR DIRECTIONS.
UM, I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PUTTING THAT TOGETHER, BUT I DON'T, I HAVE SOME GUIDING QUESTIONS THAT, THAT WOULD HELP ME GET IT.
UM, ONE, I ASSUME RESIDENT OF HUBBER HEIGHTS.
UM, HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ONLY FOR THE SCHOLARSHIP.
DO WE CARE WHAT MAJOR THEY'RE GOING HAVE? I THINK GREG HAD A REQUEST THAT IT WOULD BE ANY OF THE ARTS.
YEAH, ANY ARTS OR JUST ANYTHING? I THINK ANY ARTS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, KIDS, THE KIDS THAT GO TO, UH, SAY EXAMPLE THE CTC AND THEN THEY TURN THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF WELDING AND THEIR HARD WORK FOR, AS AN EXAMPLE.
SO, BUT LIKE ANY COLLEGE MAJOR, LIKE IF THEY WERE GONNA GO TO A TECHNICAL SCHOOL FOR WELDING, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT.
'CAUSE WELDING IS PART RELATED TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.
I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE, THERE'S A LOT OF WELDERS, BUT IT'S PART, WELL, I WAS JUST PICKING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.
SO IF I, IF A KID WANTS TO BE PRE-MED YEAH.
I, THEY'RE GONNA BE A TEACHER.
I, I WOULD LEAVE IT AS THE ARTS.
I WOULD, SINCE IT'S A ARTS, ARTS RELATED, PERHAPS IT SHOULD BE ARTS RELATED.
SO IF IT'S A DEGREE, IT WOULD'VE TO BE, AND WE COULD, I MEAN, WE COULD ALWAYS TAKE IT ALL AS AN INDIVIDUAL.
I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY MAKES APPLICATION, WE CAN ALWAYS SAY, SORRY, THAT'S NOT REALLY QUITE FITTING THE CRITERIA.
IF THEY, IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND SAYS, I WANNA BE AN AUTO MECHANIC BECAUSE I LIKE TO TAKE AUTO PARTS AND TURN THEM INTO SCULPTURES OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW.
MAYBE THAT WOULD BE
IF THEY, IT WAS COLLEGE, IT WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY LIKE A DEGREE OF ARTS INSTEAD OF SCIENCE.
BUT THEN IF IT'S A TRADE, IT'S NOT A DEGREE.
WOULD YOU JUST INCLUDE ALL TRADES? HOW DO YOU DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THAT THEN? WELL, I WOULD SAY TRADES WOULD BE, THEY NEED, I MEAN IT UP VALID.
THEY NEED TO INCLUDE ANY, YOU KNOW, ANY TRADE OR DEGREE IN ARTS ACTUALLY MAKE THIS ART RELATED TRADES.
I MEAN, WELL, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD LIMIT IT BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY'S GOING INTO ART, THEY'RE GOING INTO COLLEGE TO TEACH, TEACH ART.
WOULD YOU PREFER, WE DON'T WANNA TRADES, BUT LIKE A RUBRIC.
AND SO PEOPLE WHO AREN'T MAJORING IN THE ARTS, THEY'RE NOT CONCLUDED, BUT MAYBE YOU GET, THERE'S 10 THINGS YOU CAN GET POINTS FOR AGREEING THE ARTS IS ONE OF THEM.
MY THOUGHT WAS I JUST DIDN'T WANNA SEE IT LIMITED TO ONLY COLLEGE STUDENTS.
'CAUSE TRADE SCHOOL IS JUST US TWO.
I'LL WORK ON A FEW VERSIONS, UH, OF THAT AND THEN SEND THEM OVER
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TO CHERYL SHANNON FIRST, SO THAT OKAY.YEAH, IT'S, I TOTALLY BLANKED ON THAT, BUT YEAH.
UM, DO YOU WANT THEM TO WRITE AN ESSAY? SURE.
I MEAN, DO WE HAVE TIME FOR IT THAT, TO REVIEW THE ESSAYS? I, I THINK IT SHOULD JUST BE A MERIT OF THEIR ARTWORK.
SO, SO IT'S WHEN, I MEAN THAT'S WHY THE MERIT AWARD.
WELL, I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT THE, WE'RE PICKING FOR THEIR ART.
LET'S, LET'S LEAVE IT AT RIGHT.
JUST BASE IT OFF THEIR ARTWORK.
YEAH, THE PIECE THAT THEY SUBMIT.
SO THEN, UM, IF THEY CAN ONLY SUBMIT ONE PIECE FOR JUDGING, CAN THEY SHOW MORE PIECES BUT DESIGNATE WHICH ONE IS THE ONE BEING JUDGED? YEAH.
YEAH, BUT THEY NEED TO PICK WHICH ONE'S BEING TO BE JUDGED.
JUDGED, WHICH, YEAH, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SELECT WHICH PIECE THEY INTO.
SO IT'S BASED JUST ON BASICALLY THAT THEY'RE A RESIDENT, IF THEY'RE A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT.
AND THEN HOW WELL THEIR ART PERFORMS. FIRST, SECOND, AND THIRD.
DO YOU WANT JUST FIRST PLACE GETTING MONEY OR FIRST AND SECOND OR SPLIT THE MONEY? 1500.
SO WHAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT WITH THAT? THERE'S 5,000 IN THE, JUST MAKE CHECKS THE WHOLE WEEK.
HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS TYPICALLY SUBMIT, UM, WE'VE HAD A RANGE OF, UM, PROBABLY FIVE.
FIVE TO 10 HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THAT SHOW THEIR PC.
SO IF WE DID 1500 THOUSAND FIVE, THAT'D BE 3000, 5,000.
I MEAN, WE COULD GIVE A COUPLE A YEAR AND TRY TO, WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE IT ALL THE AWAY AT ONE TIME.
AND HOPEFULLY THE FILLERS I HAVE OUT THERE, THEY'LL KEEP CONTRIBUTING TO CONTRIBUTING TO IT.
SO IF WE WANTED TO GIVE A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO TWO STUDENTS OR $1,500 TO CHOOSE STUDENTS, WE STILL HAVE ENOUGH TO, TO CARRY ON NEXT YEAR? YEAH, PROBABLY.
SO LIKE THIRD, THREE, FIRST, SECOND, THIRD.
SO IF WE GET FIRST, SECOND, JUST FIRST AND SECOND.
FIRST, SECOND, THIRD OR SECOND.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANT TO DO? I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT THEY USUALLY DO.
THREE PLACES, DON'T THEY? MOST, MOST PRIZE THINGS.
IF YOU DO TWO, THEN THEY COULD GET, I THINK YOU MIGHT, IF YOU DO TWO, YOU COULD GIVE THEM A LITTLE HIGHER AMOUNT.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO SUBMIT.
YOU HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.
THE TOP, THE TWO FOR TWO, TWO PEOPLE.
AND IF THEY KNOW THAT, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT SCHOLARSHIP AMOUNT.
I MEAN, IT COVERS COVER YOUR BOOKS FOR THE YEAR.
IT'S BEEN WHILE TWO PRIZES AT 1500 SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.
FIRST AND SECOND ARE EACH GAVE 1500.
SO 3000 OF THE SCHOLARSHIP WILL BE, OR DO YOU WANT THINK ABOUT HAVING SOME OF THAT SET ASIDE DOWN? I DUNNO HOW WELL SHE'S TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE GONNA GET TEACHER CONTRIBUTIONS, SO WE CAN DO IT EVERY YEAR, BUT KEEP, KEEP 2000 AND THEN WE GET, KEEP ADDING TO EACH YEAR.
WE CAN UM, DO WE WANT TO KNOW THEIR GRADES OR ASK FOR A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION OR ANYTHING? OH, NO.
UM, WHAT ARE THERE, ARE THERE SHIFTS PEOPLE WANT TO TAKE FOR THAT? DO WE NEED TO WAIT AND DECIDE THAT? OH, FOR THE, FOR THE ART SHOW, I USUALLY STAY ALL DAY.
I JUST LIKE HANGING OUT WITH THE ARTS.
I ENJOY DOING, I ENJOY BEING THERE ALL DAY BECAUSE THEN OTHERWISE I MISS PEOPLE.
SO WE'VE GOT AT LEAST THREE OF US THAT'LL BE THERE.
UH, THE OTHER THING IS I'LL WORK ON AN AGENDA OR NO, NOT AN AGENDA.
AGENDA OF SOME OF THE ARTISTS THAT ARE GOING TO SEE THAT WERE FROM LAST YEAR.
WE TALKED TO, I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THE, UH, WE VOTED ON TO DO IT AGAIN OR TALKED ABOUT DOING IT AGAIN.
SO I'LL, I'LL KEEP WORKING ON THAT.
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I WAS, I WAS TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY CONTACTING GOD'S WIFE ABOUT GETTING SOME DANCERS POSSIBLY.THE VIOL IS THAT SHE COULD COME BACK.
SHE WOULD REALLY, SHE WAS VERY GOOD.
AND WE JUST NEED TO GET LIKE COOKIE DONATION OR SOMETHING.
SO WE USUALLY PUT COOKIES OUT OR GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN I, I'VE GONE TO SAMS BEFORE AND BOUGHT 'EM AND BACKED THEM.
SO SEW, WHICHEVER WE WANT TO DO FOR, I I KNOW THAT'S FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL KID OR HIGH SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, THE SCHOLARSHIPS.
BUT WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT HAVING, UM, AN OLD PRIZE KIND OF SYSTEM FOR THE OLDER, UH, PARTICIPANTS WITH MAYBE SHOWING THEIR ART THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
ARE WE STILL WANTING TO DO THAT NETWORK? YEAH.
KIND OF LIKE BRINGING JAY'S WHEN ABOUT YEAH.
WHEN JAY HAD HAD MENTIONED DISPLAYING IT AT A CITY BUILDING.
ARE WE STILL GOOD WITH THAT? SOUNDS FINE.
IS THERE A ROOM TO DO THAT HERE? WE DO CONSIDER THE SENIOR CENTER OR IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
WE COULD HAVE, WELL ASK MORE THAN JUST ONE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
WOULD WE WANT A RUBRIC FOR THAT OR IS IT JUST, WE'RE GONNA PICK WHAT WE LIKE.
OR WE CAN ASK THE PERSON THAT THE BUILDING IS.
SO SAY THE LIBRARY, THE LIBRARIAN COMES AND PICKS WHAT? OH YEAH.
SAY GUESS IF WE FIND SOME PLACES, OKAY.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE SARAH DIDN'T STAND BEFORE.
WE NEED TO GET PARENTAL PERMISSION TO DISPLAY MINOR ART, MINOR'S ART.
UM, WELL, MINORS CAN ENTER IN THE CONTRACTS, BUT I WOULD SAY MOST LIKELY YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO INFORM MOM AND DAD 'CAUSE SOMEBODY'S GOTTA COME PICK UP THE ART.
JUST TAKING THEIR KIDS ART FROM THEM.
UM, YEAH, YOU CAN ALWAYS MAKE THAT PART OF THE SIGN UP.
LIKE YOU'RE, ARE WE GONNA DO THAT AT THE ART SHOW OR IS THAT GONNA BE A PRE OH, WE CAN HAVE IT DISPLAY AT THE ART SHOW AND THEN JUST DISTRIBUTE IT TO OTHER BUILDINGS.
WELL, IF THEY WANT TO BE IN AN ART SHOW AND GET TO BE IN TO GET THEIR SCHOLARSHIP, THEY HAVE TO BE IN THE ART SHOW.
SO IT HAVE TO, TO BE IN THE ART SHOW, THEY HAVE TO REGISTER.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS OTHER THING.
DISPLAYING THE ART AROUND THE CITY.
DID THE, ARE WE GONNA PICK THAT ART ONCE WE'RE AT THE ART SHOW? AND THAT GONNA, DO THEY HAVE TO COMPLY TO HAVE THEIR A JUDGED OR DID WE JUST JUDGE WHOEVER WAS THERE? WELL, WE, I DUNNO, LIKE IF YOU'RE HAVING JUDGES, THEY COULD JUST AWARD ONE, TWO, AND THREE FOR EVERY AGE GROUP THAT RIGHT.
SHOW I DID BEFORE WE HAD A, OH, I THINK IT WAS LIKE UNDER EIGHT YEARS OLD AND THEN LIKE AN EIGHT TO 12 AND THEN A 13 TO 19 OR SOMETHING.
AND, BUT I MEAN, WE WANT THE ADULT US TO WE DID.
AND THEN IT KEPT GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO, AND THEN IT, WELL THEN IT WAS JUST 19 AND, OR 20 AND OVER.
SO, AND THEN AT, IN EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES, THERE WAS A FIRST, SECOND, THIRD RIBBON GIVEN.
WE'D HAVE TO FIND OUT HOW MANY PLACES THAT WE CAN.
SO YOUR SUGGESTION, I GUESS I CAN JUST WALK, GO AROUND AND ASK.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT AIR? COULD WE DISPLAY A PIECE OF WORK HERE? I THINK ONE HERE, PROBABLY ONE AT THE NEW SENIOR CENTER WOULD BE.
IT'S KIND OF, THAT'S KIND OF SIMILAR TO ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT I HAVE IN THE NEW BUSINESS.
AND I DID, UM, AFTER OUR LAST CONVERSATION, I DID SEND AN EMAIL TO A COUPLE COUNCIL PEOPLE SO THEY COULD BE THE JUDGES.
BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANNA JUDGE THE SCHOLARSHIP.
SO I DID, I DID HEAR FROM ONE, THEY WEREN'T SURE YET, BUT I'LL LET YOU KNOW AS SOON AS, UH, THE THREE CONFIRM.
SO IF WE COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE LIKE EIGHT PIECES, ARTWORK, DEPENDING ON GROUPS AND STUFF, AND THEN WE COULD ROTATE THEM.
WE SHOULD PUT IT IN SPACE ALLOWING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? BASED ALLOWING, OH, WHEN YOU SAID EIGHT, BUT IT MEANS,
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OH, YOU NEED DISPLAY ALL OF THEM AT ONE TIME AT EACH PLACE OR DOING ONE AT EACH PLACE AND THEN ROTATING THEN OR, I MEAN, I'M, I'M FLEXIBLE.JAY'S IDEA WAS YOU, YOU TAKE DIFFERENT PIECES AND PEOPLE CAN GO AND SEE.
YOU CAN SCATTER 'EM ABOUT THE CITY AND THEN THEY CAN GO AND SEE YOU.
I MEAN, THAT WAS HIS SUGGESTION OR WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
JUST PUT SOMETHING ON FACEBOOK OR SOMETHING THAT THESE, THESE WINNERS OF THE AWARDS ARE DISPLAYED AT CERTAIN PLACES.
HE DID SAY THAT, BUT THEN WE COULD ROTATE THEM TOO.
WELL, I'LL THINK IT, I'LL TRY TO GET MY BRAIN WORKING.
AND THINK SOME OTHER PLACES AND I'LL GO AND TALK TO THEM.
WELL IF ANY, I'M AT THE LIBRARY ALL THE TIME, SO I CAN, IF ANYBODY, UH, MAYBE WE CAN, CAN WE DO A GOOGLE SHEET OF LIKE, I GO TO THE LIBRARY AND TALK TO THE LIBRARY.
THAT WAY CHERYL DOESN'T GO TO THE LIBRARY AND TALK TO HER AGAIN.
AND JUST PUT LIKE WHO WE TALKED TO IS THAT YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.
THAT WAY WE'RE NOT BACKTRACKING.
I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF A FIRE STATION.
OF COURSE, FIRE STATION DOESN'T HAVE ANY PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN JUST WANDER IN.
I GUESS MAYBE IN THE LOBBY OR WHATEVER.
LIKE THE POLICE STATION, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET IN WITHOUT BUZZING IN.
SO THAT'S NOT REALLY A, I MEAN, IT IS A PUBLIC PLACE, BUT NOT REALLY.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE KIND OF PLACES WOULD BE, BUT THEY HAVE LIKE OUTSIDE ART.
IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE LOBBY AREA OR IN THAT JUST THE ENTRY AREA OR SOMETHING? YEAH.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO DO FOR THE ART SHOW? OH, WE WILL NEED BLACK TABLECLOTH.
AND THAT'S REALLY, I MEAN, WE HAVE DECORATED BEFORE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BECAUSE THE ART IS THE DECORATION.
THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE WENT WITH BLACK TABLECLOTHS.
SO WE HAVE A PRETTY NEUTRAL DECK.
AND MAYBE BALLOONS FOR THE OUTSIDE.
SIGNS OUTSIDE OR? WELL, WE'VE GOT THE
WE'RE GONNA, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT COOKIES THAT WE GET A VENDOR, FOOD VENDOR THERE OR SOMETHING.
WELL, THAT'S WHEN I'M OH, OH, LIKE A FOOD TRUCK OR SOMETHING? OH, I DON'T KNOW.
USUALLY PEOPLE ARE JUST KIND OF IN AND OUT.
NOW WHAT DID WE DECIDE ON OUR FINAL HOURS? ONE TO FIVE? YEAH.
YEAH, I WOULD SAY COOKIES IS PROBABLY FINE.
I KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GET ANYBODY ELSE.
WE JUST SET UP A TABLE ENTRYWAY AND LAURA'S GONNA PAY OFF COOKIES.
SHE OFFERED I COOK, BUT I CAN'T PAY
ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE ART SHOW? OKAY.
MOVING ON TO THE MOSAIC PROJECT.
DID ANYBODY GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE LINK? I DID.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? UM, I WOULD, I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT WE COULD PULL IT OFF.
THAT'S WAS MY BIGGEST, BIGGEST.
THEY JUST, UH, THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, THAT SEEMED LIKE THAT WAS GONNA BE A LOT TO GET.
YOU'D HAVE TO BRING A LOT OF PEOPLE TOGETHER INTO, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO DO A SPECIFIC PIECE.
I MEAN, AM I, DID I INTERPRET THAT RIGHT? THEY HAD TO DO CERTAIN COLORS ON CERTAIN ON A SQUARE, BECAUSE YOU ISN'T THE PICTURE ALREADY FORMED.
THEY, THEY CAN MAKE A PICTURE.
THAT'S WHAT I, WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THEY MAKE.
I THOUGHT THAT THEY DESIGNED THE PICTURE AND THEN EACH PERSON GOT US A TILE WITH THE COLORS THAT THEY NEEDED TO PUT ON THE TILE.
I COULD HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD YOU BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT'S LIKE EACH PIC, EACH TILE HAS TO, THEY HAVE CERTAIN COLORS ON IT TO BE PUT TOGETHER FOR THE PICTURE.
I THINK THEY WERE LIKE NUMBERED TILES.
INSTEAD, THEY JUST, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY TAKES A TILE AND THEY PAINT THEIR LITTLE TILE AND YOU COULD PUT ANYTHING YOU WANT ON THE TILE.
THEY HAVE TO USE THE SPECIFIC COLORS.
AND THEN THEY PUT THEM TOGETHER AND THE PICTURE.
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WHAT I GOT.I THOUGHT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE VERY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO PULL IT TOGETHER BECAUSE LIKE IT WAS A LOT OF TILES.
WE DID PRETTY GOOD ON THE OTHER TILE PROJECT.
I MEAN, WE ONLY DID IT FOR A COUPLE HOURS AND WE HAD ALL THOSE TILES DONE.
AND, AND THAT WAS THE GIRL SCOUTS.
AND WE HAD ALL HAD IT JUST TO GET TOGETHER.
ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET THAT MANY PEOPLE TOGETHER TO DO I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THE BEST WAY TO GET PEOPLE TOGETHER IS GO THROUGH ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE GIRL SCOUTS.
'CAUSE SO EACH GIRL COULD DO FIVE OR SIX TILES OR SOMETHING, OR 10.
THAT WASN'T ONLY A SMALL PORTION.
LIKE WE, THERE'S THE BOY SCOUTS, THERE'S THE GIRL, GIRL SCOUTS, THERE'S CHURCHES.
WE JUST, WE REACH OUT TO PEOPLE AND IN THE
AND LET 'EM KNOW THAT WE HAVE THIS AWESOME PROJECT AND IT PROBABLY WILL BE MORE THAN ONE DAY.
I KNOW THAT ONE THAT THE CITY DID.
I, IT SEEMED LIKE THEY DID IT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME DURING WARM WEATHER MONTHS THAT THEY MM-HMM.
DEFINITELY WAS AN INTERESTING PROJECT.
AND IT, IT, IT REALLY DID PRODUCE A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF ARTWORK.
UM, WE ALSO CAN JUST DO OUR OWN THING ALSO.
WE DON'T HAVE TO GROOVE, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT.
OR WE CAN WAIT TILL A LITTLE BIT LATER TO DECIDE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY, IT WAS VERY INTERESTING.
EVEN IF YOU GUYS WOULD DO THAT, YOU'D PROBABLY REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOLS AND, AND THE ART CLASSES THERE.
UM, CAN HAVE THEIR CHILDREN PARTICIPATE AND MAKING THAT FOR YOU.
NO, I DON'T THINK GETTING THE PEOPLE WILL BE THE
AND IF WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT DOING A SPECIFIC DESIGN, LIKE HAVING THAT, THAT WHOLE THING, I MEAN, BECAUSE THAT, LIKE WHAT WE ALREADY DID WITH OUR CHILD PROJECT.
IS THAT KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? JUST DOING ANOTHER SIMILAR TO THAT? MM-HMM.
I THINK OPEN, I OPEN FOR DISCUSSION FOR SURE.
I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE THAT HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO PAINT THE RIGHT COLOR.
UM, ESPECIALLY IF WE MAKE KITS AND YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, WE GO TO THIS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND WE ONLY GIVE THEM FOUR SHADES OF YELLOW AND SAY, HEY, PLEASE USE THESE FOUR SHADES OF YELLOW AND PAINT THESE A HUNDRED TILES.
I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE HARD.
YOU GO TO A CHURCH AND YOU GIVE THEM THE GREENS AND THE BOY SCOUTS AND GIRL SCOUTS HAVE A BUNCH OF BLUES.
AND I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE EXCITED TO BE PART OF IT.
AND THEN WHEN THEY SEE IT ALL UP, IT'LL, IT'LL BE A REALLY BEAUTIFUL MOSAIC.
WE, HAS THERE BEEN ANY INVESTIG ANY THOUGHT WHERE THIS WOULD BE INSTALLED? UM, THERE'S A COUPLE WALLS, BUT I DON'T, I HAVEN'T TALKED TO ANYBODY ABOUT THIS IS AN OUTSIDE, THIS IS AN OUTSIDE PROJECT THAT GOES ON THE SIDE OF THE WALL.
SOME PEOPLE HAVE SUGGESTED, UM, OFF FISHBURG AND BRAND THAT THE WALL, THE, YOU KNOW, WHERE SUBWAY IS? YEAH.
THAT PIECE RIGHT THERE WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING, SOMETHING THERE.
UM, THERE'S ALSO A BLACK WALL.
THE OTHER IN THAT BUILDING TOO.
SINCE THEY, THE NEW LIBRARY IS THERE.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE.
WE, OF COURSE WE'D HAVE TO IS THAT A CITY BUILDING? THAT'S A CITY BUILDING.
UM, SO, BUT I'LL, I MEAN, I THINK THEORETICAL, THERE'S A REASON WHY WE COULDN'T DO IT ON CITY BUILDING.
UM, NOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LIKE STRUCTURE IS MADE OF.
LIKE IT MIGHT HAVE STICK WELL TO LIKE A STUCCO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE MIGHT NEED TO INVESTIGATE THAT.
UM, BUT IT WOULD JUST BE MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL ON THEM, ACCEPTING IT FOR THAT LOCATION IF YOU'RE GONNA DO A CITY BUILDING.
I THINK THAT CORNER KIND OF NEEDS A LITTLE SOMETIMES.
THAT WOULD BE REALLY, BUT WE COULD ALSO ASK, THERE'S OTHER PLACES OF COURSE.
I THE BIG BLANK, UM, WALL AT SHO GATE ON THE GARAGE THERE THAT FACES, UH, SHOAL ROAD.
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I'M FOR IT.I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF PERSONAL.
WHAT'S YOUR TIMEFRAME? WHAT ARE YOU WANTING TO DO? UM, I THINK THERE WAS SOME DATES ON THERE.
YOU HAVE TO APPLY BY A CERTAIN AMOUNT IF WE GO THROUGH THEM.
IF WE DON'T GO THROUGH THEM, I, I DON'T HAVE THE ARTISTRY TO DO A MOSAIC.
I'M SURE WE COULD FIND, COULD DO A DESIGN.
UM, ANY IDEAL SUGGESTIONS? INSTALLATION IS ALSO GONNA BE A, WHAT WAS THE, THE COST OF, OF INVOLVED IN THAT? I DON'T REMEMBER THAT PART.
I DON'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I JUST LIKE THE IDEA, SO.
AND I DO DOING OUR OWN THING TOO.
SO MY BIGGEST THING IS I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, I, I WANT IT TO BE A PIECE OF OUR WORK WHEN IT'S DONE.
I DON'T WANT TO JUST HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT WE HAVE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS CUTE AND IT'S FINE AND YOU GET ALL DIFFERENT KIND OF TILES.
BUT I'M TYPE, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE PROPOSING A COHESIVE PIECE OF ARTWORK.
UM, I THINK WE NEED TO GET SOMEBODY INVOLVED IN THIS, WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, THE LAST I TALKED TO 'EM SO THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET TO US ANYTIME SOON.
UM, BUT I CAN REACH OUT AGAIN AND SEE.
THE WATER BOARD'S GONNA BE MOVING HERE GUYS.
UM, IF BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR WE CAN START SOMETHING OH, I KNOW THEY SPEND IN THE SPRING.
WELL, YEAH, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE THAT FAR AHEAD.
DECIDE IF WE'RE GONNA GET INVOLVED, GET OUR NAME ON THERE.
I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD WITH IT IF WE HAVE TO DO A FUNDRAISER OR WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO.
YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE.
BUT LIKE I SAID, I, IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT, I THINK I WANT IT TO BE HIGH QUALITY.
I'M GOING IT TO BE DONE PROPERLY.
AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO GET SOME THEM INVOLVED OR SOMEONE LIKE THEM.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO IT TOMORROW.
AND TYPICALLY STUFF LIKE THIS, I MEAN IT'S, IF WE MAKE THE CONTRACT THIS YEAR, IT MIGHT BE 2026 BEFORE IT'S COMPLETED.
THESE AREN'T THINGS THAT OVERNIGHT.
DO WE HAVE TO MOTION, DO A MOTION TO CONTACT THEM AND GET A, YOU JUST, UM, WE COULD ALSO PUT OUT, UH, THEY AREN'T THE ONLY MOSAIC R IN AREA.
WE COULD JUST PUT OUT AN RFP, UM, FOR SOMEONE TO PLAN DESIGN, HOLD OUR HAND THROUGH AND INSTALL A COMMUNITY MOSAIC PIECE.
MOVE FORWARD INTO AN EXPLORATORY PHASE AT THIS POINT.
SO WE PUT OUT A PROPOSAL AND SAY, YOU KNOW, LOCAL ARTISTS, HOW MUCH WOULD YOU CHARGE TO COME DO THIS SERVICE FOR US AND WITH US? AND THEN WE'D GET VARYING, WE'D ASK, YOU KNOW, FOR A LITTLE BIT OF THEIR PORTFOLIO.
I COULD ALSO ASK LOCAL COLLEGES IF IT COULD BE A TRUE OR PROJECT.
THERE'D BE NO REASON THAT THEY, THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SUBMIT ON THE PROPOSAL TOO.
BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IF YOU CAPABLE OF PULLING OFF THE PROJECT MM-HMM.
SO A COLLEGE GROUP WOULD BE GREAT.
AND I CAN FORESEE DEFINITELY THE NEXT QUESTION COMING UP IS GONNA BE EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, INSTALLING SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TILES ALL IN THERE.
GO THROUGH WINTER AND THEN FOLLOWING SPRING THEY'RE ALL IN ON THE GROUND.
SO WE WILL YOU GUYS JOB TO, TO GUYS REACH OUT TO DIFFERENT PLACES.
DO WE PUT TOGETHER RFP? IT MIGHT BE AN RFQ OR REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FIRST.
AND THOSE ARTISTS WOULD ALL KIND KIND OF INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND THEN FROM THERE SAY NOW PUT TOGETHER PROPOSAL.
BUT IT MIGHT NOT BE EXACTLY LIKE WHAT WE'RE THINKING.
THEY COULD HAVE SOME OTHER WAY TO INVOLVE COMMUNITY OR SOMETHING, SO.
IS THERE A CERTAIN NUMBER THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO BE INVOLVED? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT LIKE WE CAN FIGURE OUT LATER THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO KNOW UPFRONT? LIKE, WE WANT FIVE ORGANIZATIONS OR DO WE WANT 300 ORGANIZATIONS? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IMPORTANT.
UM, I THINK THE MORE ORGANIZATIONS
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OR PEOPLE WE HAVE INVOLVED IS GOOD.I MEAN I FEEL LIKE WE COULD DO LIKE MULTI HUNDRED LIKE SIZE TILE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU GET THE SCHOOLS INVOLVED, IT COULD END UP BEING A THOUSAND TILES, WHICH IS AWESOME.
AND IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE WALL ALSO.
ALLOWED TO USE OR I THINK THAT HAS LOTS OF DIFFERENT FACTORS IN THAT.
I THINK REACHING OUT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY BE LOCKED INTO JUST ONE GROUP.
IS THERE ANY OTHER THING? UH, NEW BUSINESS MOVING ON? ANYBODY HAVE NEW BUSINESS? YES.
UM, AND I NEED TO LEARN HOW TO END IT BECAUSE
UM, SO THIS IS VERY MUCH ALONG THE LINES.
THERE'S BEEN KIND OF BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UM, THE NEW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO NEW BUILDINGS THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE COMING ONLINE.
THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THERE WOULD BE ARTWORK DONATED FROM PEOPLE TO BE DISPLAYED THERE PERMANENTLY.
UM, THE SAME KIND OF GOES WITH THE TEMPORARILY DISPLAYING OTHER PEOPLE'S ART AS WELL.
AND IF WE BEGIN TO ACQUIRE PUBLIC ART PIECES, UM, FROM ARTISTS OR GROUPS THROUGH DONATION, UM, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOME POLICY AROUND, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE ACQUIRE ART? HOW DO WE CATALOG IT? UM, HOW DO WE DECIDE WHEN IT SHOULD BE, UM, RETIRED OR IT, YOU KNOW, IF IT WERE TO COME INTO DAMAGE UNDER OUR CARE, WHAT DO WE DO TO DECIDE IF THE COST OF RESTORING IT, IT'S TOO GREAT A BURDEN TO THE CITIZENS TO DO SO? UM, VERSUS HOW DO WE THEN, IF IT IS DAMAGED, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL APPROPRIATE WAY TO UM, RETIRE IT? UH, BECAUSE THERE IS ACTUALLY SOME LEGALITY AROUND ART WALL.
UM, AND IF SOMEBODY DONATES IT TO YOU, UM, AND YOU NO LONGER WANT IT, THEY MAY HAVE A RIGHT BACK TO IT BEFORE YOU SOLD IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THERE'S SOME OTHER CITIES IN THE AREA, THE CLOSEST WINDOWS, NOTABLY UPPER ARLINGTON THAT HAS DONE SOME OF THIS WORK.
AND SO THIS IS WHAT I'D LIKE TO BEGIN EXPLORING MYSELF SO THAT WE ARE WELL COVERED AT THE SENIOR CENTER AND I KNOW PEOPLE WILL WANT ART AND I'D LIKE TO USE YOU ALL IF YOU WERE UP FOR IT AS KIND OF A SOUNDING BOARD IN THAT POLICY TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY I WOULD SEE THIS BOARD AS BEING, UM, THE SOUNDING PIECE FOR IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DONATE A PIECE SAYING YAY OR NAY.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S A CHANCE THAT ONE PIECE OF ART COULD BE FOUND CONTROVERSIAL BY SOMEONE.
UM, SO WHO MAKES THAT DECISION? CERTAINLY A GROUP OF CITIZENS WILL BE BETTER THAN ONE INDIVIDUAL.
UM, AND ARE THOSE THE SAME RULES APPLY FOR THINGS LIKE ART SHOWS OR TEMPORARY DISPLAYS AS PERMANENT ACQUISITION AND OWNERSHIP, UM, AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO IT'S JUST THE IDEA I WENT FLIP PAST YOU TO BE USUALLY YOU REALLY IN AN ADVISORY ROLE, UM, AS IN CREATING SOME OF THOSE POLICY BASED ON THE BEST PRACTICES OF OTHERS BASED ON CONSULT OUR OWN LEGAL TEAMS AND EVERYTHING.
AND THEN YOU'LL BE THE SOUNDING CITIZEN BOARD.
UM, SO IF THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING YOU'RE UP FOR AT THESE MEETINGS, THEN I CAN BRING IT BACK EVERY FEW MONTHS WITH VERSIONS AND DISCUSSION.
WE CAN EVEN DO IT AS A LOAN PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF MUSEUMS THAT HAVE WORK ARE WORK DISPLAYED PERMANENTLY THAT'S ON LOAN.
SO THE PERSON RETAINS OWNERSHIP.
AND THEN IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO IT, WE MAY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DAMAGE OR SOMETHING IF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, BUT PRESUMABLY THE ARTWORK ROUTINE IS REMAINED IN THEIR, UM, POSSESSION SO IT COULD BE RETURNED.
SARAH DOES BRING UP AN INTERESTING POINT INTO, YOU MENTIONED CHERYL, UM, CERTAIN THINGS GET DAMAGED TO ME.
OFTENTIMES THESE ARE A ONE OF A KIND DETECTIVE PIECE OF WORK AND UH, SOMETIMES THEY CAN'T BE REPLICATED.
HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHAT THE VALUE OF IT IS? YEAH.
YOU WOULD TO DETERMINE THE VALUE AND THAT THING.
THEY GET, BECAUSE THEY, I SURE THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH THE, THIS WHOLE THING, THEY JUST HAVE TO DETERMINE THE VALUES AND THEY ASK THE SAME SORT OF SOUNDING FOR WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR THEIR COMMUNITY.
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SO, UM, OKAY.I WAS HOPING TO, TO, UM, USE YOUR BRAINS IN THAT CAPACITY OKAY.
AND BRING THAT BACK EVERY FEW MONTHS.
ANY ADDITIONAL BUSINESS OR ANNOUNCEMENTS? UH, THE ONLY THING I THINK THAT WE MAY NEED TO DO IS THIS IS THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO, UH, DO WE HAVE TO DO UH, VOTE FOR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AGAIN? I THINK THAT'S, OR IS THAT JANUARY? THE FIRST MEETING OF THE YEAR IS WHAT I THOUGHT.
I DON'T THINK I HAVE THE, I DO HAVE THE HANDBOOK.
I COULDN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS DECEMBER OR JANUARY.
I DON'T THINK WE HAD A MEETING LAST DECEMBER BECAUSE WE OH, OKAY.
YEAH, USUALLY WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING IN DECEMBER.
MAYBE DECEMBER
SO WE DO WANNA TAKE OFF DECEMBER.
RIGHT? OR WE MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE ON SCHEDULED.
UM, THAT WOULD BE DECEMBER 16TH.
AND SO WE WOULD NEED FIVE PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE FOR COURT.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE'LL HAVE THAT.
I JUST, THE OTHER IT'S OFFICIAL ITEM.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
THE DATES, BECAUSE OUR MEETINGS IN BOTH JANUARY AND FEBRUARY ARE ON HOLIDAY CITY HOLIDAYS.
THEY USUALLY GET MOVED TO WEDNESDAY.
SO I HAD PROPOSED THE LAST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH.
SO YOU DID JANUARY 28TH AND FEBRUARY 25TH.
WE MAY WANT TO DO JANUARY A LITTLE BIT EARLY JUST BECAUSE OF THE ART SHOW.
UM, IN CASE WE, I MEAN, UH, THAT HAS A LOT TO DEPEND ON A LOT OF THINGS.
COULD WE DO THE, THAT THE TUESDAY, LIKE THE THIRD? TUESDAY? THE THIRD TUESDAY IS A COUNCIL.
I KNOW I LOOKED AT THE CALENDAR FOR A LONG TIME BEFORE LIKE PICKING THOSE TWO DATES, BUT I CAN GO BACK WITH, UM, WELL THE, THE 28TH, THAT STILL GIVES US TWO WEEKS.
LET'S JUST MAKE SURE WE CAN TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING HERE THAT WE NEED FOR THE ART SHOW BECAUSE WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MEET IN JANUARY EITHER DEPENDING, BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE LOSING TWO OR OUR PEOPLE THAT LEAVES US WITHOUT A QUORUM.
WE HAVE EVERYTHING READY FOR CASE.
IF WE HAD ANY APPLICATIONS FOR, I DON'T HAVE THE APPLICATION CRITERIA FOR TEAMS, SO I DIDN'T PUT IT OUT THERE FOR BOARD MEMBERS.
OH, FOR BOARD MEMBERS? I DON'T KNOW.
OH, THERE'S GOOD THAT TELL ME.
I THINK THEY POSTED FOR ONE POSITION.
I THINK THEY POSTED A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT ONES.
ARE WE COUNT THREE OR FOUR THOUGH? WELL, IT'LL, IT'LL JUST, IT'LL BE FOUR IF YOU TWO WILL AS WELL.
BECAUSE WE NEVER HAD THAT LAST ONE FILLED.
SORRY TO PUT YOU IN THAT SPOT.
WELL DO WE NEED TO, DO WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT HAVING A DECEMBER MEETING THEN SINCE WE, WE WON'T HAVE A FORM IN DECEMBER.
RIGHT? SO THAT MEANS LET'S, I THINK WE DID FIRM UP EVERYTHING THOUGH FOR OKAY.
I, I DON'T KNOW THAT, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD NEED A FORM TO VOTE ON FOR THE ARCH SHELL? I DON'T THINK SO.
I JUST, YEAH, I MEAN EVERYTHING
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BEARS IN PLACE SO IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO CHANGE, ME AND CHERYL CAN MEAN CHERYL AND SARAH CAN CHAT.WELL, 'CAUSE I'LL HAVE TO SHARE THE AGENDA WITH YOU OR, OR LIKE ADD WHO WANTS TO COME AND, YEAH.
WHO, DO YOU GUYS CARE IF I PUT LATE TIME SLOTS OR DO YOU NO.
I JUST WANNA, AND THEN MAKE SURE WE'RE COVERED.
I'D SAY TO THEY JUST PIECE THAT'S HANGING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW WOULD BE, UM, SECURING JUDGES.
SO IF YOU THINK THAT COUNSEL ISN'T JUMPING AT IT, THEN GOING TO SOME ART TEACHERS OR YOU KNOW, UM, OH, THAT WOULD BE OKAY.
I ONLY MESSAGED I'LL REES THEM.
SAY, HEY, YOU DON'T WANNA DO IT.
UM, 'CAUSE I THINK YOU'LL DEFINITELY WANT TO BE ABLE, ESPECIALLY FOR THE KIDS RECEIVING MONEY.
SO DID EVERYONE GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES? YES.
SO BILLY LONG, YOU HAD LOTS OF, I DID LOOK AT IT.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
MM-HMM,
ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS BEFORE WE ADJOURN? ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE OUT AT SEVEN 12.