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          [ AGENDA CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZEN ACTION COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road November 7, 2024 6:00 P.M.  ]
CALL THE NOVEMBER MEETING OF THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION TO ORDER AT 6:15 PM GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. 
          MS. PURVIS. 
          PRESENT. 
          MR. GULA? PRESENT. 
          MR. GULA? PRESENT. 
          MR. CHA ZI. 
          MS. GEL PRESENT? MRS. STEVENS? PRESENT. 
          MS. NEWBIE? PRESENT. 
          MR. RICHARDSON? PRESENT. 
          MS. TROTTER? PRESENT. 
          MR. OS PRESENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT MR.  IS EXCUSED FROM THIS EVENING'S MEETING. 
          WE ARE GOING TO TABLE THE APPROVAL OF OCTOBER'S MINUTES UNTIL NEXT MONTH'S MEETING. 
          THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME. 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE AGENDA BEFORE WE MOVE THROUGH IT? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CITIZENS PRESENT FOR CITIZENS COMMENTS THIS EVENING, SO WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ALONG TO OLD BUSINESS. 
          UM, OLD BUSINESS UNDER A ARE THE COMMISSION POSITIONS. 
          WE HAD STARTED THE DISCUSSION OF THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR POSITIONS, UM, AND WE SHOULD PROBABLY FINISH HAVING THAT DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME. 
          UM, NOBODY, WELL, I'M NOT GONNA SAY WAS RECOMMENDED THAT MR. OWENS, UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? NOT RECOMMENDED. 
          NOMINATED. 
          NOMINATED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          . 
          IT'S LONG WEEK, UH, NOMINATED FOR VICE CHAIR. 
          UM, AND I OFFERED TO SERVE AS CHAIR AGAIN THROUGH MY, THROUGH THIS NEXT YEAR. 
          I NOMINATED HIM AS CHAIR. 
          OKAY. 
          COREY? YEAH. 
          SO WE JUST NEED TO TALK IT OUT. 
          TALK IT OUT. 
          I THINK THERE WAS THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU HAD OFFERED, AND THEN IF HE WANTED TO BE VICE FOR THE YEAR, THAT MM-HMM. 
          . 
          IS THAT, YEAH. 
          I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT WAS DISCUSSED. 
          AND HE NEEDED TO THINK ABOUT IF YOU WANTED YES. 
          KIND OF WHERE WE LANDED. 
          SO, COREY, OH, WHAT? I DON'T, I DON'T  YOU'VE HAD A MONTH TO REFLECT ON THINGS, THINGS A MONTH TO REFLECT. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A CRAZY MONTH. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, I'LL, UM, IF, UH, FOR THE GOOD OF YOUR ORDER, THAT'S WHAT'S BEST. 
          OR IF THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS AGREE TO, I, I'LL ACCEPT THE NOMINATION AND MOVE FORWARD, OR HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS NEXT. 
          SO I, AND WHATEVER THE TEAM WANTS IS WHAT I'M A TEAM PLAYER. 
          I, WHATEVER YOU GUYS DECIDE THAT IS. 
          CAN YOU CLARIFY THE ROLE? YEAH. 
          THE VICE CHAIR. 
          VICE CHAIR OR CHAIR. 
          I THOUGHT I WAS ONLY NOMINATED FOR ONE THING AS FAR AS I KNOW, BUT IF THERE'S, I MEAN, I'M OPEN. 
          WELL, I THINK THERE WAS JUST SOME CONFUSION ON KIND OF, I GUESS THE WAY THE NOMINATION CAME DOWN. 
          IT WAS THE ERIC AND COREY. 
          UM, AND THEN THE WAY THE CONVERSATION LANDED, ERIC NICELY, UM, SAID NO. 
          UM, SO IT, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY IF YOU WERE ACCEPTING THE NOMINATION FOR VICE OR IF YOU WERE ACCEPTING THE NOMINATION FOR CHAIR. 
          SO I NOMINATED COREY FOR CHAIR, AND I NOMINATED ERIC FOR VICE CHAIR. 
          AND THEN ERIC DECLINED THE NOMINATION FOR VICE CHAIR, AND CORY WAS GOING TO RESPOND TO US IF HE ACCEPTED THE NOMINATION FOR CHAIR. 
          AND THEN THERE WAS ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, AS CHRISTIE MENTIONED. 
          YEAH. 
          COULD THAT DISCUSSION BE, I'LL SAY A LITTLE BIT ELABORATED ON UPON, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THE MINUTES, AND I WASN'T THERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I WAS GETTING MARRIED AT THE TIME. 
          , HEY, CAN EPI BE BRIEFLY ? 
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RIGHT? SHE JUST, I WAS GETTING MARRIED. 
          JUST, YOU KNOW, SMALL LITTLE DETAILS, JUST MAN STUFF GOING ON. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'RE JUST THE VICE CHAIR DO YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT THE CONVERSATION WAS BASICALLY, UM, THAT GIVEN THE LACK OF INSIGHT AVAILABLE INTO WHAT THE ROLES REQUIRED, UM, THAT IT WOULD, I FELT LIKE, I DON'T WANNA PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, COREY. 
          I FELT LIKE COREY WAS MORE COMFORTABLE WITH SERVING AS VICE CHAIR FOR THE YEAR TO LEARN THE ROLE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, AND THEN TO TAKE IT OVER OKAY. 
          AFTER THIS YEAR. 
          BUT I, I AM NOT BOUND TO, TO, THAT WAS JUST HOW THE CONVERSATION FELT. 
          SHE, SHE, SHE OFFERED JEAN, SHE OFFERED TO, SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT RENEWING MY TERM. 
          I OFFER TO BE CHAIR AND YOU BE VICE CHAIR, AND THEN KIND OF SHADOW, AND THEN WHEN I END MY TERM, THEN MAYBE YOU CAN BE CHAIR. 
          SO THAT WAS KIND OF, SHE OFFERED THAT UP OKAY. 
          WHILE WE WERE TALKING THROUGH. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          UM, EVERYBODY KEEP LOOKING AT ME LIKE . 
          UM, SO I THINK THE QUESTION WOULD BE, DO YOU ACCEPT THE ROLE OF STEPPING INTO VICE FOR A YEAR AND THEN TAKING OVER WHEN TARA TARA'S TERM IS OVER? OR DO YOU JUST WANNA HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AND BE NOMINATED AS THE, THE CHAIR? THEN WE'LL NEED TO NOMINATE A VICE CHAIR ON TOP OF THAT, WHICH I NOMINATED I ABRAHAM, BUT HE'S NOT HERE TODAY, RIGHT? ? CORRECT. 
          THEY CAN'T DEFEND. 
          HE SURE CAN'T. 
          HE SURE CAN'T. 
          I THINK EVERYONE'S KIND OF LOOKING AT YOU, COREY, BECAUSE THE BALL FALLS IN YOUR BALL IN MY, IT'S QUIET TOO. 
          BALLS IN MY COURT CAN INTERJECT THE THOUGHT. 
          SURE. 
          UM, WE ALSO DISCUSSED, UM, FOR SUCCESSION FOR ANY REASONS THAT THAT'S HOW THE DISCUSSION OF TIER, UM, NOMINATING BEING CHAIR OR WHATEVER, AND THEN COREY, VICE CHAIR, THAT WOULD REQUIRE A NOMINATION FOR HIM FOR VICE CHAIR. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND THEN ABRAHAM SHADOWING IN THE WINGS AS PART OF SUCCESSION, SO THAT THEN WE CAN NOMINATE THEM NEXT YEAR FOR CHAIR ADVICE CHAIR. 
          SO EVERYONE WILL BE PREPARED. 
          I THINK I, I LIKE THAT OPTION. 
          I MEAN, I THINK EVER ABRAHAM AGREED SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          IF I, IF I REMEMBER CORRECT, I'M OKAY WITH THAT, THAT SUCCESSION PLAN, IN MY OPINION. 
          BUT IT'S UP TO IF EVERYONE, SO IS THAT REQUIREMENT OF NOMINATION FOR COREY FOR VICE SHOE? THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, JUDGE. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          BECAUSE TECHNICALLY I'M NOT THE CHAIR NOW. 
          AND, UM, WELL, WE'D ALSO LIKE TO, WE'LL, NOT NOT BE REMISS. 
          IF THERE IS ANYONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR FOR NEXT YEAR, NOW'S AN OPPORTUNITY YOU CAN SELF NOMINATE AS WELL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL, I'LL MAKE THE NOMINATION FOR COREY OWENS TO SERVE AS VICE CHAIR. 
          I DON'T THINK I CAN SECOND I . 
          YES. 
          THIS IS, WELL, YOU ALL KNOW WHO I AM, BUT FOR RECORD JEAN NEWBIE ALAIR, I SECOND THAT MOTION. 
          GONNA A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. 
          BEFORE, SO SINCE THIS, UH, NEW APPOINTMENT WON'T TAKE PLACE UNTIL JANUARY OF THE NEW YEAR, UM, WE WOULD JUST WAIT UNTIL JANUARY OF THE NEW YEAR, IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          WHY IT, IT WOULDN'T, SO YOU WOULD JUST HAVE, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT THIS WAY. 
          WELL, THAT'S NOT HOW IT, THAT'S NOT HOW IT'S DONE. 
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OKAY. 
          SO, SO, SO ALL THAT, ALL, ALL I'M JUST SAYING, RIGHT. 
          IT, IT'S COOL THAT YOU GUYS GOT AHEAD OF THIS. 
          I MEAN, WHEN WE COME JANUARY 1ST, OR WHENEVER THAT FIRST MEETING OF JANUARY IS, YOU GUYS WOULD JUST TAKE THAT ROLL CALL AND JUST APPOINT CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. 
          GOOD QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE A NOMINATION FOR A VICE CHAIR OR CHAIR FOR BEGINNING JANUARY 20, 25. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TAKING THE VOTE FOR BEGINNING 2025. 
          BECAUSE IF THERE ARE ANY NAYS OR IT'S NOT AGREED UPON, WE ARE NOT STARTING JANUARY WITHOUT A CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          SO WE ALWAYS, AND THIS IS IN, IN PREPARATION FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR, YOU ALWAYS HAVE YOUR MEMBERS AND YOU HAVE YOUR CHAIR. 
          YOU HAVE YOUR LEADERSHIP ESTABLISHED GOING INTO THAT YEAR, WHICH IS WHY WE TAKE THE VOTE IN NOVEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER EVERY YEAR SO THAT WE'RE READY TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING IN JANUARY. 
          SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          SURE. 
          I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT ARE WE SAYING FROM LIKE TODAY UNTIL JANUARY OR THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, THAT THERE'S GONNA BE MAJOR CHANGE WHERE WE CAN'T JUST HOLD OFF UNTIL A VOTE COME THAT FIRST MONTH OF JANUARY? WE WOULD NOT DO THAT. 
          THAT'S NOT EVER HOW  I, AND I UNDERSTAND, AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND, RIGHT. 
          I'M GONNA PUSH BACK A LITTLE, RIGHT? MM-HMM. 
          , I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THIS IS WHAT I'M BEING TOLD YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE TO JUST WAIT UNTIL JANUARY. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT HOW NOMINATIONS WORK WHEN YOU'RE PREPARING FOR THE NEXT YEAR. 
          . 
          SO, SO HANG ON. 
          SO, SO WITH COUNCIL, RIGHT? SO COUNCIL OBVIOUSLY DOES THEIR VICE, THEY DO THEIR VICE MAYOR NOMINATIONS AND, AND VOTE IN THAT FIRST JANUARY MEETING. 
          THAT IS THE STRUCTURE OF HOW THEY DO IT. 
          THAT IS HOW THE STRUCTURE, THE BOARDS AND THE COMMISSION WILL DO IT. 
          OKAY? SO THAT IS NOT EVER HOW WE'VE DONE IT, AND THAT'S NOT WRITTEN. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING WRITTEN, BUT MEANWHILE, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORTH AS WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN DIRECTED TO, TO TAKE THE VOTE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          BECAUSE I MEAN, EVEN WHEN YOU, YOU, WE, WE JUST FINISHED ELECTIONS, THE PERSON OKAY. 
          , I'M SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS IT'S PROTOCOL AND THAT'S HOW IT'S TO BE DONE IN PREPARATION FOR THE NEXT YEAR. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO CALL A VOTE FOR 2025 MM-HMM. 
           TO GET THIS SETTLED NOW SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD FOR 2025 WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE POSITIONS GO IN PLACE. 
          1, 1 25. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL. 
          I'M JUST, JUST TELLING YOU GUYS HOW IT IS TO BE, UH, IT IS TO BE USED MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO IF THERE, IN, IF THERE ARE CHANGES IN PROTOCOLS AND PROCESSES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, I THINK WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE, IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES, RIGHT. 
          PLEASE, UM, JUST BRING THOSE TO US IN WRITING WHEREVER IT IS SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND. 
          YEAH. 
          'CAUSE WE CAN'T BE TOLD ONE THING AND THEN TOLD ANOTHER THING. 
          AND THEN THAT'S, WE NEED SOME ACCOUNTABILITY AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE, I I WOULD, I WOULD SAY, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER PERSONALLY TOLD YOU GUYS THAT YOU GUYS COULD DO IT. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHO TOLD YOU GUYS THAT. 
          SO IT'S THE, WELL, EVEN, BUT EVEN, I GUESS JUST ACCORDING TO ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, LIKE IF YOU PUT A MOTION OUT THERE, LIKE, AND YOU MAKE CALLS FOR A VOTE MM-HMM. 
          , EVEN IF IT'S , WELL, WHAT NOT PRECEDENT. 
          NOW IF YOUR PUSHBACK IS YOU WANT TO NEGATE US FROM MAKING THE VOTE YEAH. 
          THEN YOU CAN, SO, RIGHT. 
          SO I, I GUESS PUT THAT ON THE FLOOR, RIGHT? SO THE PROCEDURE OF THE MO LIKE THE PROCEDURE, THE PROCEDURE OF THE VOTE IS INVALID. 
          RIGHT? IF, IF I'M TELLING YOU THAT TYPICALLY THAT VOTE DOESN'T TAKE PLACE UNTIL THE BEGINNING OF THE NEW YEAR, THAT IS, THAT'S MY STANCE. 
          IF I'M SAYING THAT INCORRECTLY TO YOU ALL, THAT IS THE POSITION THAT I'M TELLING YOU HOW IT HAS TO GO. 
          CAN YOU LET ME KNOW WHERE IN THE HANDBOOK THAT IS CITED, PLEASE? LIKE PAGE, SITE NUMBER. 
          I WOULD, I WOULD TALK TO TONY, PLEASE. 
          AND THANK YOU BECAUSE I, I'M READING IT RIGHT NOW AND I'M NOT FINDING THAT AT ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE'RE SPENDING WAY TOO MUCH TIME ON SOMETHING. 
          I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, IN LIAISON 
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POSITION, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSION, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH HANDS IN THE POT ARE THE LIAISONS HAVING? 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT FEELS TO ME THAT YOU FEEL THAT YOU WERE IN THE POSITION WHERE YOU NEED TO MANAGE US. 
          AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S COMING FROM THE CITY LEVEL DOWN, THAT SOMEHOW WE NEEDED TO BE MANAGED BY CITY STAFF. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO ME. 
          AND IT, IT'S MAKING ME FEEL VERY ICKY ABOUT THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE HAVE A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR OF THIS COMMISSION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , WE HAVE BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2020, NOT OUR FIRST TIME THAT WE HAVE MADE THIS VOTE. 
          SURE. 
          AND IT WON'T BE THE LAST TIME WE'VE MADE THIS VOTE. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE HAVE A VERY LONG MEETING AHEAD OF US AND WE'RE STUCK ON THE FIRST THING. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO IT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO BE AN ISSUE WHERE I AM NOT GONNA BE ALLOWED TO LEAD THE MEETING THAT I AM CHAIRING. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION SURE. 
          AND WE CAN, AND WE, BUT AT THIS POINT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE, THE LEVEL OF PUSHBACK. 
          IT'S NOT, I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE, THE, JUST THE POINT OF IT. 
          IF, IF WE ARE NINE ADULTS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE UP HERE DOING YEAH. 
          INCLUDING THE MOTION THAT IS ON THE TABLE. 
          MM-HMM. 
           THAT WE JUST ASKED FOR A A, A ROLL VOTE FOR ROLL CALL VOTE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE CAN GET IT IN RECORD. 
          UM, MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO THERE WAS NO QUESTION AT HAND. 
          WE ASKED FOR A ROLL VOTE PLEASE. 
          SO AGAIN, AGAIN, I'M JUST TELLING YOU GUYS FROM WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD, AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE OFFLINE TO TALK TO EITHER THE CLERK OF COUNCIL AND THE CITY MANAGER, I AM HAPPY TO, UH, GIVE YOU GUYS THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION SO YOU GUYS CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          BUT I'M ONLY FOLLOWING WHAT I WAS TOLD TO DO. 
          IF I MAY, I'M JUST GONNA PUT IT OUT THERE THAT I FEEL LIKE ALMOST EVERY TIME WE COME INTO A MEETING, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE A CERTAIN WAY THAT WE'VE NOT BEEN MADE AWARE OF OR SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, A PROTOCOL OF SOME SORT. 
          SO I, I THINK THAT'S, I I MEAN THAT'S WHAT LEAST WHERE MY CONFUSION IS KIND OF COMING FROM. 
          LIKE, IF THIS COMMISSION HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE SINCE 2020 AND THIS IS HOW IT'S BEEN DONE, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE BEING TOLD NO, IT CAN'T BE DONE THAT WAY. 
          I JUST, I MEAN, I GUESS I FEEL LIKE YOU WOULD SEE WHERE OUR CONFUSION IS WITH THAT. 
          SH YEAH. 
          LIKE, I'M, I'M, IT ISN'T LIKE I'M TRYING TO VILIFY YOU GUYS ON HOW YOUR GUYS' PROCEDURES HAVE OPERATED IN THE PAST. 
          I AM ONLY TELLING YOU GUYS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD. 
          I DO NOT, I DON'T MAKE ANY RULES. 
          I AM, I, LIKE, I AM JUST THE STAFF LIAISON TO YOU ALL. 
          AND THE ONLY THING I DO IS I ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN MY QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED. 
          AND THEN THAT'S HOW I HAVE TO PORTRAY IT BACK TO YOU. 
          AND, AND I'M NOT EVEN TRYING TO BE LIKE, MEAN OR NASTY OR DISRESPECTFUL TO ANYONE. 
          I'M JUST TELLING YOU GUYS WHAT I WAS TOLD. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING LIKE, HEY, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO TAKE IT OFFLINE AND YOU WANT TO TALK TO TONY ABOUT THIS, LIKE BE LIKE, I CAN SET THAT UP FOR YOU ALL. 
          AND IF TONY THEN SAYS SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT HE TELLS ME, LIKE I CAN TAKE ON IT ON THAT AND THEN WE CAN JUST MOVE FORWARD. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, IN THE HANDBOOK UNDER CONDUCTING BUSINESS NUMBER SEVEN MM-HMM. 
          , ONCE A MOTION IS SECONDED AND BEFORE A BOARD OF COMMISSION, IT MUST BE ADOPTED OR REJECTED BY A VOTE, VOTE OR BE DISPOSED OF IN SOME OTHER WAY BEFORE ANY OTHER SUBJECT CAN BE INTRODUCED FREE. 
          NOW WE HAVE A MOTION AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED. 
          CAN WE PLEASE GET A ROLL CALL VOTE. 
          MS. PERVIS? YES. 
          MR. GU, WORKING VICE CHAIR? YES. 
          MS. GEL? SURE. 
          MRS. STEVENS? YES. 
          MS. NEWBIE? YES. 
          MR. RICHARDSON? YES. 
          MS. TROTTER? YES. 
          MR. OWENS? YES. 
          A MOTION AND APPROVED 1 1 25. 
          COREY OWENS WILL START AS VICE CHAIR OF THIS COMMISSION. 
          UM, BEFORE WE MOVE INTO CHAIR, EVEN THE, THERE'S NO, UM, MOTION ON THE FLOOR. 
          I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, I, I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT ME AFTER I LEFT THE ROOM LAST MONTH. 
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AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THOSE THAT PROTECTED MY NAME IN ROOMS THAT I WAS NOT IN. 
          UM, I DON'T FRANKLY CARE IF ANYBODY HERE FINDS ME TO BE A DIFFICULT WOMAN. 
          THAT'S HOW I GOT TO THE POSITION THAT I'M IN IN LIFE. 
          I AM NOT GOING TO BE MANSPLAINED AND I'M NOT GONNA BE PLACATED WHEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR US WHEN WE ARE NINE ABLE-BODIED PEOPLE MAKING A DECISION AS A COMMISSION. 
          UM, I THINK IT WAS JANE GOODALL SAID, THAT'S WHY THERE'S SO MANY DIFFICULT WOMEN, UM, OR TAKES VERY LITTLE TO BE CONSIDERED A DIFFICULT WOMAN. 
          THAT'S WHY THERE'S SO MANY OF US. 
          UM, I HAVE EARNED MY POSITION HERE. 
          WHETHER OR NOT YOU BELIEVE I SHOULD BE SITTING HERE BECAUSE I AM A WOMAN OR A WHITE WOMAN. 
          I HAVE A DEGREE IN SOCIAL WORK. 
          I WAS AN AMERICORPS VISTA. 
          I WORKED WITH THE LOWEST PERFORMING SCHOOLS IN DAYTON. 
          AND I CURRENTLY WORK ON PROGRAMMING DIRECTLY AT MOVING PEOPLE FROM THE CURRENT STATE OF MEDICAL CARE TO A CARE SYSTEM WITH QUALITY INCLUDED. 
          I BELIEVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY IN THIS WORK. 
          I HAVE DONE THIS WORK MY ENTIRE LIFE. 
          SO WHAT IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN IS WE'RE GONNA SIT SILENT IN THIS MEETING FOR TWO HOURS TO MAKE IT GO QUICKLY AND THEN DISPARAGE THIS WORK THE MINUTE THAT WE ARE DONE AND THE CAMERA IS TURNED OFF. 
          SO IN SAYING THAT, IF YOU WANNA ELECT ME CHAIR, I WILL ABSOLUTELY CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK THAT I DO AND WILL ALWAYS DO. 
          WHETHER OR NOT I'M DOING IT HERE OR IN ANOTHER VOLUNTEER CAPACITY. 
          I WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO GRADUATE FROM WRIGHT STATE UNIVERSITY WITH A SERVICE LEARNING BASED CERTIFICATE. 
          SOMETHING TO BE SAID WHEN YOU'RE THE FIRST PERSON TO DO SOMETHING OUT OF AN INSTITUTION LIKE THAT, THAT IS BASED IN WORKING WITH POVERTY, PROGRAMMING AND YOUTH THAT ARE FACING A LIFETIME OF STRUGGLES BECAUSE OF THE SYSTEMS THAT ARE IN PLACE THAT KEEP PEOPLE IN POVERTY. 
          SO THAT'S MY LITTLE SOAPBOX AND I'M GONNA GET OFF OF IT. 
          I WILL ALWAYS BE A DIFFICULT WOMAN. 
          I'M THE ONLY ONE PAYING THE RENT AT MY HOUSE. 
          AND LIKE I TELL MY KID GOING RATE IN MY HOUSE FOR AN OPINION IS $1,500 WHEN YOU'RE READY TO PONY UP. 
          SO IN SAYING THAT, IF SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO STEP UP AND BE CHAIR OF THIS COMMISSION, YOU'RE WELCOME TO. 
          OTHERWISE I'M NOT GOING TO SIT BACK BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE THAT I'M A SECOND CLASS CITIZEN OR THAT I HAVEN'T EARNED MY POSITION RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW. 
          SO LET'S OPEN UP THE CONVERSATION FOR CHAIR. 
          OKAY. 
          MOTION. 
          I MOVE THAT WE NOMINATE MS. TARA PURVIS TO BE THE CHAIR FOR THE HUBER HEIGHTS CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION FOR THE 2025 PURSUING YEAR. 
          I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. 
          WE GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. 
          MS. PURVIS? YES. 
          . 
          MR. AVIV? YES. 
          MS. STEGEL? SURE. 
          MS. STEVES? YES. 
          MS. NEWBIE? YES. 
          MR. RICHARDSON? YES. 
          MS. TRO? YES. 
          MR. OWENS? YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MOVING ALONG, JEAN. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU LISTENED LAST MONTH AND THE MEETINGS ARE NOT AVAILABLE, BUT WE DID ADD YOU TO THAT COORDINATOR POSITION, THE CITY INFORMATION, I THINK IS WHAT WE CALLED IT. 
          I'LL TOUCH BASE WITH YOU. 
          WE HAD DISCUSSED IT IN THE SUMMER. 
          IT WAS LIKE THE VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR. 
          THE, YEAH. 
          OUTREACH. 
          OUTREACH. 
          AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE, AND I THINK YOU WERE THE OTHER ONE, , THAT I CAN'T SPAC. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SO THERE WERE THREE POSITIONS, CORRECT? YEAH. 
          LIKE A CITY INFORMATION? YEAH. 
          CITY INFORMATION COORDINATOR AND THEN CHRISTIE, COMMUNICATION COORDINATOR OR, YES. 
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YEAH. 
          AND THEN VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR WAS IBRAHIM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I, I WAS ASSIGNED FOR LIKE, THE CITY INFORMATION, JUST ONE THAT LIKE OKAY. 
          BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS MORE IN DISCUSSION. 
          I HAVE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WE CAN PUT IT BACK OUT. 
          IT WAS JUST THAT WE HAD, WHEN WE HAD DISCUSSED IT, YOU HAD INTEREST IN YEAH. 
          YES. 
          OH, NO, NO, NO. 
          I HADN'T EVEN MENTIONED WHICH ONE. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          . 
          AND THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT TONIGHT I WAS GONNA EXPRESS THAT. 
          OH, THAT'S FUNNY. 
          I'M GLAD HE'S NAME. 
          I'M GLAD. 
          I'M GLAD. 
          SAID. 
          YEAH, A LOT HAS CHANGED SINCE I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT TOO, SO. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, YEAH. 
          PERSONAL LIFE. 
          SO I DUNNO IF THAT'S, WELL THERE'S THAT AND THERE'S A LOT THAT'S CHANGED IN THE CITY. 
          WHEN WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT POSITION, YOU KNOW, IT WAS BEFORE THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS THAT ALL JUST PASSED. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , YOU KNOW, THIS WEEK IT WAS BEFORE THE REDISTRICTING THAT I BELIEVE IS ALSO LIKE A DONE DEAL TOO. 
          SO IT WAS JUST A POSITION THAT KIND OF LISTENED TO THE MEETINGS AND, AND MM-HMM. 
           KIND OF KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH CITY TO REPORT BACK THINGS POLICY WISE, LEGISLATION WISE, THAT ARE GOING ON AT THE CITY LEVEL THAT COULD IMPACT, YOU KNOW, THE BROADER WORK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, SINCE WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT THIS, THIS IS ON THE AGENDA. 
          NOT REALLY. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO OKAY. 
          IT WAS ORIGINALLY UNDER THE COMMISSION POSITIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, WELL MY PLAN WAS TO, YOU KNOW, MENTION MY INTERESTS BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, WASN'T HERE AT THE LAST MEETING AND I FIGURED THIS WAS GONNA BE A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION. 
          SO FOR ME PERSONALLY, IT WAS EITHER GOING TO BE THAT POSITION OR VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR. 
          SO LUCKILY MY PREFERENCE OF THE TWO WOULD BE THE COORDINATOR. 
          YEAH. 
          BASED ON MY INTEREST. 
          THE CITY INFORMATION COORDINATOR. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          WELL SEE, WE, WE VOLUNT TOLD YOU. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
           LET YOU WERE ABLE TO MAKE THAT DECISION AT THE END OF THE DAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          NO, THANK YOU. 
          WE CAN STILL SET SOME FIRMER PARAMETERS AROUND THOSE POSITIONS. 
          UM, JUST SOMETHING TO GET STARTED AND, AND GET PUT AWAY. 
          UM, AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF DECIDE AS THOSE POSITIONS EVOLVE, WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL, WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS DO WE HAVE IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL BESIDES, UM, THE ONE THAT WAS PASSED LAST MONTH? THE HERITAGE MONTH ONE, I BELIEVE WE HAD PULLED BACK 'CAUSE WE WANTED TO DO SOME FURTHER WORK ON OUR END ON WHAT WE COULD DO TO HIGHLIGHT EDUCATIONALLY, YOU KNOW, THOSE HERITAGE MONTHS. 
          UM, I KNOW THE COUN COUNCIL LIAISON IS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATES IN GENERAL? I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY UPDATES FOR ANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COUNSEL HAS. 
          HAVE WE ASKED FOR UPDATES? HAVE I HAVE I PERSONALLY? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I HAVE NOT BEEN DIRECTED BY YOU GUYS TO IMPLY FOR UPDATES. 
          I THINK I REQUESTED THAT WE GET A, GET AN UPDATE ON THE, UM, STATUS OF ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          SO THAT WAS MY WAY OF ASKING FOR AN UPDATE  FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          SO, SO ALL UPDATED. 
          SO I'LL, I MEAN, DO WE KNOW A NUMBER? I MEAN, THAT'S JUST SOME, SOME BACKGROUND THAT I PROBABLY HAVE TO DIG UP MYSELF. 
          SO ALL OUTSTANDING RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, FROM COMMISSION TO COUNSEL, I'LL JUST KIND OF GO BACK AND I SHOULD HAVE 'EM TO YOU GUYS IN DECEMBER IF THAT WORKS. 
          IN THE PAST, TONY HAS, UH, HAD A SPREADSHEET OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE STATUS UPDATE. 
          HE, HE SENT THAT TO THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR? OR WHAT WAS THE COMMUNICATION PROCESS? UM, HE SHARED THAT WITH THE COMMISSION, SO HE SENT THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT WASN'T THROUGH THE STAFF LIAISON TO, OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I'LL TALK TO TONY, SEE IF HE WANTS TO GET THAT BACK INTO SOME TYPE OF MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY UPDATES. 
          YEAH. 
          SO ONE, UM, 
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I THINK BIG ONE THAT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF, WELL, LEMME START ONE, ONE WAS HAVING THE LIAISON FROM CITY COUNCIL YEP. 
          AS A CONDUIT BETWEEN THE COMMISSION. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THAT WAS A DISCUSSION THAT HAD EVEN LANDED AT, WITH CITY COUNCIL DOING THAT FOR ALL OF THE BOARD AND COMMISSIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          UM, AND RIGHT. 
          WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT HIRING A-D-E-I-B PERSON. 
          AND THE LAST DISCUSSION ON THAT WAS, LET'S GET THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT DONE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND THEN WE WILL LOOK AT THAT. 
          SO I WANNA KEEP THAT ON THE FRONT BURNER TOO. 
          OKAY. 
          IN LINE OF SIGHT. 
          UM, THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF THE LAST FEW YEAH. 
          THAT WE SUBMITTED, BUT HE HAS A RUNNING TALLY OF THOSE THINGS. 
          IS IT, IS IT EITHER POSSIBLE FOR THAT SPREADSHEET THAT TONY, LIKE THE LAST ONE YOU GOT, MAYBE POSSIBLY SEND TO ME AND THEN I CAN KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND THEN MAYBE I DON'T, I LIKE, I MEAN, PERSONALLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR BACK DO I NEED TO GO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RECOMMENDATIONS THAT PROBABLY, UM, WERE SHARED TO COUNSEL AND THEN LIKE YOU GUYS HAVEN'T BEEN INFORMED ON LIKE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE A YEAR. 
          'CAUSE I THINK I'VE BEEN STAFF LIAISON FOR ABOUT, PROBABLY ABOUT LIKE A, A YEAR NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M, I'M ASKING HOW, HOW FAR BACK DO WE NEED TO GO? OH, IF YOU USE TONY'S LIST. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS WERE FROM THE INCEPTION OF THE OKAY. 
          OF THE COMMISSION AND THEN JUST ADD THE, THE ONES IN THE LAST YEAR. 
          GOTCHA. 
          I I'M SURE I HAVE, I'M SURE I HAVE. 
          IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW FAR BACK IN MY EMAIL I NEED TO LOOK. 
          , I'VE BEEN SCROLLING FOR A MINUTE. 
          , UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD, I MEAN WE HAD SOME STUFF OUTSTANDING WITH THE, THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT IT WASN'T AS MUCH AS IT USED TO BE. 
          WE'VE CHECKED OFF QUITE A FEW OF OUR BOXES, WHICH IS NEVER A BAD THING. 
          UM, INCLUDING THE CCRB AND, AND, UM, THE DEI NEEDS ASSESSMENT GOING ON RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, SO I GUESS THAT MOVES US RIGHT ALONG TO AN UPDATE ON THE DEI NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          ALTHOUGH THE WEBPAGE, ALTHOUGH IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED, NOT OH, THE DIVERSIFYING OF THE WELL, THERE'S A, A SMALL, YOU CAN TRANSLATE THE WEBSITE THOUGH. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IT IS NOT A REFLECTION OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          MM-HMM. 
           THERE WAS, WELL, THERE WERE A FEW LITTLE PICTURES SPRINKLING, BUT, OKAY. 
          I, NO, IT'S FINE. 
          I, I FELT LIKE THERE WAS SOMETHING, LIKE THEY WERE UPDATING SOMETHING ON THEIR END AND WHEN THAT HAPPENED, THEN THE WEBSITE AND THE PICTURES AND STUFF WAS GONNA GET UPDATED. 
          BUT I MEAN, IS THE OUTCOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, LIKE, WE PUT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL AND THE PROCESS SHOULD BE THAT CITY COUNCIL TELLS US LIKE, YAY, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          MM-HMM. 
           OR NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I, I MEAN, BECAUSE SOME OF 'EM WE COULD JUST GET AN ANSWER, SO. 
          RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, THAT SEEMS THE MOST EASIEST. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW CORDIAL, IF THAT'S THE RIGHT WORD THAT I WANT TO USE FOR THAT, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE MOST FAIREST WAY TO KIND OF GET SOMETHING TO THEM. 
          AND THEN OBVIOUSLY A BA UH, UH, AN ANSWER BACK. 
          I DON'T, I WOULD FIGURE THAT WAS THE INITIAL THOUGHT OF HOW THE STRUCTURE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MADE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THEY GAVE YOU GUYS AN INITIAL TIMELINE FOR HOW LONG RECOMMENDATIONS WERE SUPPOSED TO SIT, LIKE WITH THE ASK AND THEN THE SIT AND THEN THE, THE ANSWER. 
          RIGHT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, OKAY, HEY, MAYBE THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION TO ASK FOR SOME TYPE OF TIMELINE. 
          SO LIKE, LIKE I DON'T THINK RIGHT. 
          YOU GUYS ARE AN ADULT IF SOMEONE TELLS YOU NO, LIKE IT ISN'T THE END OF THE WORLD. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT I THINK THE UNDERSTANDING IS RIGHT. 
          LIKE IT'S, IT'S NOT WAITING FOR AN ANSWER. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, SO I DON'T KNOW, LIKE, I MEAN, IS THAT A, A THOUGHT THAT MAYBE WE CAN TRY TO KIND OF DISCUSS BETWEEN THE CITY MANAGER AND, AND THE CLERK OF COUNCIL AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF, UH, THE COUNCIL 
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IS OPEN TO KIND OF GIVING THEMSELVES LIKE, SOME TYPE OF TIMELINE WHEN RECOMMENDATIONS COME BEFORE THEM? YEAH. 
          SO YOU GUYS AREN'T NECESSARILY SITTING ON IT AND IT'S A CONSTANT LIKE WAIT AND SEE. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A BAD IDEA. 
          YOU JUST GOTTA SEE WHAT THEY KIND OF FEEL ABOUT THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, WE HIT 'EM WITH A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE BEGINNING A LOT. 
          SO I'M SURE THAT WAS SOME OF THE DELAY IN, IN THE BEGINNING, BUT NOW THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE SPACED OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE PUT A RECOMMENDATION IN AND IT'S POSSIBLE TO GET THAT IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND MONTH AFTER OUR MEETING TO GIVE THEM TIME TO BUILD THEIR SCHEDULE, HAVE THE DISCUSSION, GET IT BACK TO US IN LIKE A THREE MONTH WINDOW, YOU KNOW, NOTHING TOO CRAZY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I GUESS, RIGHT, SO I THINK YOU GUYS PARAMETERS, YOU GUYS HIT, UH, COUNCIL WORK SESSIONS LIKE, I THINK THREE TIMES IN THE YEAR. 
          SO I LIKE THIS JUST THE THOUGHT, RIGHT? YOU GUYS CAN COME IN AND LIKE, WE KNOW WHEN YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR UPDATES. 
          SO I WOULD JUST TALK TO TONY. 
          'CAUSE TONY PROBABLY WOULD TELL ME, HEY, WHO'S COMING? AND I WAS LIKE, HEY, THEY'RE COMING. 
          KIM, YOU TALKED TO COUNSEL ABOUT UPDATES TO X, Y, Z AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN OBVIOUSLY ASK THEM TO UPDATE. 
          I WOULD FIGURE THE MAYOR WOULD HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU GUYS IF THAT WAS SOMETHING. 
          JUST SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          I GUESS. 
          THAT'S FAIR. 
          SO WE HAD A WHOLE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS A YEAR AGO. 
          NOT A AND A HALF, BUT A WHOLE DISCUSSION . 
          UM, AND ACTUALLY DEVELOPED A PROCESS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL REMEMBER THIS, UM, BUT OUTLINED A PROCESS OF HOW IT WOULD WORK WHEN WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION INTERNALLY FROM A COMMISSION PERSPECTIVE, WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD BE, AND THEN A RECOMMENDED TIMELINE FOR CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND WE SHARE THAT WITH CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD THE DISCUSSION OF WE NEED TO KNOW A TIMELINE BECAUSE MEANWHILE WE'RE JUST SITTING, WE DON'T WANNA WASTE OUR TIME MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE JUST GONNA SIT THERE BASICALLY AS  MM-HMM. 
          SO WE HAVE ALREADY LAID OUT THE PROCESS AND MADE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT. 
          UM, SO IT'S NOT A NEW DISCUSSION. 
          I WILL, I CAN SHARE WITH YOU WHAT WE HAD. 
          THAT'S THE PLAN, ACTUALLY PUT THAT TOGETHER AND HE WAS ON THE COMMISSION. 
          SO I'LL SHARE THAT OKAY. 
          WITH YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          DONE. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          UPDATE ON THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          HOW ARE THINGS? UM, GOOD, GOOD. 
          IT'S GOOD. 
          THAT'S CONVINCING. 
          IT'S GOOD. 
          IT'S GOOD. 
          UM, SO I CAN SAY I HAD A, A ZOOM CALL EARLIER THIS, WELL, I HAD A ZOOM CALL EARLIER THIS WEEK. 
          UM, JUST KIND OF RAN THROUGH SOME THINGS WITH THEM ON WHAT WE WERE DOING FOR, UH, MARKETING. 
          UM, I THINK SOME STUFF THAT I GOT THE GREEN LIGHT TO DO WHEN IT CAME FROM LEADERSHIP. 
          UM, JUST RELATED TOWARDS THE SURVEY, UM, UH, WE ACTUALLY, UH, THIS WEEK GOT IT PLACED INTO THE E-NEWSLETTER. 
          I WANNA SAY THAT WAS PROBABLY LIKE TUESDAY. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UH, EVERY INTENT, UH, TO PLACE THE SURVEY, UM, INTO, UH, THE WATER BILL, UM, STARTING, I WANNA SAY DECEMBER 1ST OR WHENEVER THAT FIRST CYCLE OF WATER BILLS GO OUT IN THE MAIL, UH, IN DECEMBER. 
          UM, AND THEN WRITE THE CONSTANT PUSH TO KEEP PUSHING IT, UM, VIA SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, AS WELL. 
          UM, BUT, UM, YEAH, SO WITHIN THE ACTUAL CONVERSATION OF THAT ZOOM CALL, SPEAKING WITH RAMA, UM, JUST FROM RAYMOND'S CONVERSATION THAT THEY, THAT THEY HAD, UM, AT A WORK SESSION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, UM, I THINK WHAT WAS DISCOVERED OR, OR FOUND IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ISN'T THAT LACK OF INVOLVEMENT RATHER THAT BE FROM, UH, COMMISSION MEMBERS, UH, AND OR COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS ASSESSMENT. 
          UM, SO WHAT RAMA'S, UM, IDEA WAS, UM, THEY WANTED TO KIND OF, UM, PUSH BACK THE WHOLE TIMELINE ON THE, UM, ON THE, UM, I GUESS ASSESSMENT. 
          UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SURVEY AS WELL, JUST KINDA SCOOTING EVERYTHING BACK A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, 
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UH, THE IDEA THAT THE SURVEY WOULD BE KIND OF PUSHED BACK OR, OR OUT THERE A LITTLE LONGER THAT WOULD KIND OF PUSH BACK WHEN WE'RE, UH, ACTUALLY HOSTING ENLISTING SESSIONS. 
          AND THEN FROM THE, UH, TWO PAGE OR THREE PAGER THAT I, I PRINTED OUT FOR YOU ALL. 
          UM, THE IDEA IS JUST TO KIND OF USE THIS WHOLE NEW FORMAT TO KIND OF GO FORWARD. 
          UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW, NOTHING HAS BEEN AGREED UPON. 
          UM, UH, CURRENTLY JOHN AND LEADERSHIP ARE STILL KINDA LOOKING AT IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND I WOULD ALSO OPEN A, AFTER EVERYONE TAKES A PEEK AT IT, IF YOU GUYS LIKE IT, IF YOU GUYS DON'T LIKE IT, JUST LOOK AT IT. 
          GIVE ME ANY LIKE, FEEDBACK OR RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW YOU GUYS WANT THINGS TO KIND OF PROCEED. 
          AND I WILL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT STUFF, UH, THAT FEEDBACK TO JOHN IN LEADERSHIP. 
          AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOMETHING KIND OF MOVING FORWARD RELATIVELY SOON. 
          ARE WHAT ARE, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE UPDATE PROJECT? UPDATE MEMO? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          IS THIS A NEW, IS THIS A YEAH, THIS IS THIS. 
          YEAH, THIS IS NEW. 
          SO THIS IS A NEW, LIKE, THIS IS JUST FROM WHAT? OH, THIS IS A NEW, LIKE TIMELINE. 
          TIMELINE. 
          THE NEW TIMELINE. 
          YEAH. 
          CORRECT. 
          I GOT YOU. 
          YEAH, FOR THE, SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          HOW MANY SURVEYS COMING IN YET? SO FAR AS OF MY PHONE CALL WITH THEM, I THINK WE GOT 85. 
          85. 
          UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN THIS CITY? HOW MANY? UH, 43,000. 
          A LITTLE BIT OVER. 
          AND THAT'S FROM HOW MANY DID WE RECEIVE AT THE MULTICULTURAL ? 12 TEENS MAYBE. 
          SO THESE ARE ALL FROM HOW HAVE THEY BEEN DISSEMINATED? DISSEMINATED TO, SO, RIGHT, SO THE INITIAL, THE INITIAL PUSH WAS FACEBOOK, I THINK THAT FIRST WEEK, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. 
          SO FACEBOOK POSTS, UM, I THINK IT GOT PUT ON THE, OH GOD, I THINK IT GOT PUT ON THE DIGITAL, UH, DISPLAY BOARDS AROUND TOWN. 
          UM, I DON'T SEE IT. 
          AND THEN THAT, THAT I THINK THAT IS BANNERS. 
          HUH? BANNERS? BANNERS. 
          NO, NOT BANNERS. 
          I THINK THAT'S KIND OF, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF, SO SOCIAL MEDIA AND THEN THE, UH, THE DIGITAL BOARDS, UH, AROUND TOWN, WAS THAT LIKE INITIAL PUSH? UM, SO THE SURVEYS ARE SET UP TO WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO INCLUDE THEIR EMAIL, IS THAT CORRECT? NO. 
          OR HOW IS, HOW IS THE EMAIL INVOLVED? OR HOW IS A PERSON'S EMAIL INVOLVED? I THINK, I THINK THE ONLY WAY SOMEONE'S EMAIL IS INVOLVED IS IF YOUR ACTUAL LIKE, 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A GOOGLE IF YOU'RE SIGNED INTO GOOGLE YEAH. 
          IT'LL PULL YOUR EMAIL INTO THE GOOGLE FORM. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT SO I WONDER IF THAT'S, IF YOU'RE SIGNED IN, YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT PERMISSION. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I FEEL LIKE MAYBE THAT COULD BE, IF THERE'S HESITATION ON SOMEONE'S PART, MAYBE THAT'S IT, BECAUSE THEN IT IN THEIR MIND DOESN'T MAKE IT COMPLETELY ANONYMOUS. 
          BUT THE WELL, I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY ON THAT, BUT THEY HAD HUGE SUCCESS ON THE FIRE POLICE ONE AND THE LIKE TRASH ONE. 
          AND THOSE WERE GOOGLE FORMS TOO. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I, I THINK IT'S A MARKETING, I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING IT ON ANY OF THE HEBREW PAGES, LIKE THOSE FACEBOOK PAGES. 
          BUT WE'RE NOT ACCESSING ANYONE'S EMAIL. 
          CORRECT. 
          WE SHOULDN'T BE. 
          NO. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO I THINK THAT THAT PROBABLY, IS THERE A WAY WE COULD, YOU KNOW, INDICATE THAT SOMEWHERE? I, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I I MEAN I'M JUST WONDERING LIKE 85 JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A WHOLE LOT, SO NO, NO LESS THAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK IF I WERE A RESIDENT LESS THAN LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU DO STUFF AT WORK, LIKE YOU TAKE THOSE WORK SURVEYS AND YOU'RE LIKE, REALLY? IS THIS REALLY ANONYMOUS? BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT MY EMAIL, YOU KNOW, HR. 
          SO, AND THIS IS, AND THIS IS, I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS JUST ME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO BE MORE ENGAGED WITH THE RESIDENTS, RIGHT? LIKE TRYING, TRYING TO SHOW LIKE, HEY, LEMME BREAK IT DOWN LIKE THIS. 
          IT'S NOT THE IDEA THAT THE CITY IS COMING TO ASK RESIDENTS TO DO SOMETHING FOR THEM, RIGHT? THAT LIKE, WITH NO OTHER COMMUNICATIONS, UM, I THINK THE NOTION IS WHERE THE CITY HAS TO COME FROM AT IT IS WE SHOULD HAVE ALREADY HAD THE COMMUNICATIONS PRIOR TO. 
          SO IF WE'VE ALREADY HAD THOSE STAKEHOLDER, LIKE, YOU KNOW, BONDS, IT'S EASY ENOUGH TO KIND OF GET PEOPLE TO LIKE SAY, HEY, BOB OR WHATEVER. 
          IT'S LIKE, HEY, WE'VE GOT A NEW SURVEY. 
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WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO PASS THAT TO, YOU KNOW, ALL YOUR FOLLOWERS OR ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. 
          UM, COULD, COULD YOU DO THAT FOR US? RIGHT. 
          JUST WORD OF MOUTH. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IN MY MIND, I THINK THAT'S LIKE, THE TROUBLE OUT OF IT IS JUST TRYING TO FIND THAT BASE OF LIKE, PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHO HAVE, WHO HAS THAT LIKE MASSIVE GROUP OF AUDIENCE TO KIND OF HELP, UM, WITH THE PUSH ON IT. 
          UM, BUT THEN AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, I'D ALSO ASK, YOU KNOW, YOU, I MEAN YOU GUYS HAVE PUT IT ON YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES AS WELL AND REALLY TRIED TO PUSH THAT OUT AS WELL. 
          CORRECT? I KNOW LIKE THREE PEOPLE I HAVE, I THINK THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR, UM, CITY COUNCIL TO ENGAGE WITH THE RESIDENTS. 
          I AGREE. 
          YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE, AND I WAS GONNA BRING THAT UP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL, DO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FACEBOOK PAGES AFFILIATED AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS? I, I LIKE, I THINK THE ONLY ONE THAT I KNOW BY LIKE FOR SURE IS PROBABLY LIKE THE MAYOR. 
          UM, I'M NOT FOR SURE ABOUT THE OTHER ONES, BUT I, I THINK IT, YEAH, IT WOULD BE IDEAL. 
          YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE EACH OF THEM REPRESENT DIFFERENT WARDS. 
          SURE. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND PLUS YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, MEMBER AT LARGE, THEY CAN DISSEMINATE THOSE SURVEYS TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS. 
          RIGHT. 
          THEIR WARDS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND AGAIN, I AGREE WITH YOU ALL LIKE ON THAT STANDPOINT TOO. 
          AND I THINK NOW THAT COUNCIL HAS SEEN WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS, I THINK THEY ARE THAT MORE INTERESTED TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO, UM, MOVING FORWARD. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT THIS COMMISSION UNDERSTAND TOO THAT THIS ASSESSMENT IS COMING FROM YOU ALL. 
          AND I THINK IT'S CRITICAL THAT YOU GUYS GET OUT THERE AS WELL AND TRY TO DO THAT GRASSROOTS, YOU KNOW, MOVEMENT TO KIND OF PUSH THE SURVEY AND JUST TRY TO PUSH THEM TO MAKE THEM AWARE OF LIKE, OKAY, HEY, WE'RE DOING THIS ASSESSMENT AS WELL. 
          QUESTION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , DO YOU HAVE, UM, DOES RAMA CAN RAMA LIKE A FLYER WITH QR CODE SO WE CAN PUT AT KROGER, CORRECT. 
          AND THE LIBRARY ON THE BULLETIN BOARD. 
          THEN YOU CAN JUST QR CODE AND GO TO THE FORM ON YOUR PHONE. 
          THERE'S LIKE THREE BY FIVE THE HARD CARDS. 
          SO NOT LIKE HARD, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE THE ONES FOR THE ELECTION THAT ALL YEAH. 
          LIKE SOMETHING A LITTLE LIKE THAT THAT WE COULD WELL, AND ALSO I THOUGHT ABOUT LIKE, UM, WHAT ABOUT THE NON-EMERGENCY CITY ALERTS? I MEAN, I KNOW WE GET OUR EMERGENCY ONES, LIKE THERE'S A TORNADO IN YOUR AREA, BUT NOT THE EMERGENCY, BUT THE NON-EMERGENCY CITY ALERTS. 
          MM-HMM. 
           WHERE PEOPLE SIGN UP. 
          THAT'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO COULD GET AN ALERT. 
          IT'S A, YEAH. 
          'CAUSE SO THAT WAS THE, SO THAT WAS THE THING BEFORE WE USED THE ACTUAL E-NEWSLETTER. 
          THE FALL EDITION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, I THOUGHT WE WERE A LITTLE TOO LATE ON THAT. 
          WELL, WE WERE LATE ON WHAT, WHICHEVER ONE IT WAS. 
          AND I WAS THINKING SINCE WE HAD ALREADY, OR SINCE WE WERE ALREADY LATE ON IT, I WAS LIKE, WELL, COULDN'T WE JUST TAKE THE EMAILS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, LIKE STORED AND JUST BLAST LIKE THE SURVEY INFORMATION OUT? AND THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, LIKE THE, THE LISTS THAT ALREADY YEAH. 
          BUT I GOT A LITTLE BIT OF PUSHBACK BEHIND THAT BECAUSE I, I THINK THE NOTION IS THAT, UM, WHEN PEOPLE SIGN UP FOR THOSE THINGS, THEY ARE ONLY WANTING SPECIFIC THINGS. 
          SO YEAH. 
          YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL SENDING EMAILS OUT. 
          YES. 
          SO, SO IF SOMEONE'S ONLY ASKING FOR LIKE, UPDATES, FIRE AND TORNADO. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE DIDN'T, YOU DON'T WANNA GIVE 'EM ASSESSMENT? YEAH, WE DIDN'T WANNA, BUT ISN'T THERE ONE FOR GENERAL? I THOUGHT THERE WAS LIKE A NON-EMERGENCY GENERAL CITY INFORMATION. 
          I CAN, OR GENERAL I THOUGHT I CAN THAT THERE WAS, THAT'S THE ONE I'M THINKING ABOUT. 
          IF YOU CHECK THAT BOX, THAT'S THE PEOPLE. 
          I GOTCHA. 
          YEAH, I CAN, I CAN DOUBLE CHECK AND SEE IF WE CAN KIND OF DO THAT AS WELL. 
          DOCTOR'S, THE GENERAL ONE. 
          SO, SO LIKE THE REALLY BIG PUSH, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE SURVEY IS GONNA GO ALL THE WAY UNTIL, I WANNA SAY AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, THE REALLY BIG PUSH IS THAT WE PUT IT IN THE WATER BILL AND THEN WE GET THAT, WE GET THAT REALLY BIG PUSH TO KIND OF GET PEOPLE MORE LIKE EYES ON IT. 
          BUT THAT'S A FLYER WITH THE QR CODE IN THE WATER BILL, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          THE SAME ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          BROKE THAT IN THE LIBRARY ON A BULLETIN BOARD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE THAT. 
          SO WE COULD GET COPIES OF THESE FLYERS, RIGHT? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND WE COULD DISTRIBU SPLIT UP PLACES THAT WE CAN HIT UP AROUND TOWN CHURCHES, THE Y WE CAN CREATE A PLAN. 
          LIKE YEAH, THERE'S STUFF THAT WE COULD, WE COULD WORK TOGETHER AND BE LIKE, ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA GO OUT ON SATURDAY AND HIT UP ALL THE CHURCHES I CAN THINK OF, UM, GROCERY STORES, YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          WHAT'S ON THE CALENDAR FOR THE REST OF THE 
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YEAR? ARE THERE ANY OTHER, I KNOW THERE'S THE TREE LIGHTING IN DECEMBER. 
          I THINK THAT'S AT THOMAS CLOUD. 
          THINK. 
          YEAH, I THINK FOR PARKS AND REC RESTAURANTS. 
          I THINK THEY HAVE SOMETHING DECEMBER. 
          YEAH, DECEMBER 7TH OR SOMETHING. 
          LIKE MAYBE HAVE A BOOTH THERE OR PASS IT OUT THERE OR SOMETHING. 
          UM, WHAT ELSE? WHAT OTHER CITY EVENTS DO WE HAVE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR? SO TREE LIGHTING. 
          THE TREE LIGHTING BY OPTIMIST THING TOO. 
          IS THAT IT? WHO ELSE? WHAT DID YOU SAY, TARA? THAT SANTA THING THEY DID AT THE EGEL BURGER THAT'S CANCELED. 
          OH, IS IT? OH, OKAY. 
          THAT, YEAH, THAT WAS THE CITY TREE LIGHTING THAT'S CANCELED. 
          BUT THERE'S A TREE LIGHTING THAT'LL BE UP AT, UM, THE, WITH THE OPTIMIST CLUB AND THE PARKING LOT UP THERE. 
          THAT'S THE PARKS AND REC IS DOING THAT ONE, RIGHT? MM. 
          THERE'S A, THAT WAS THE, THE CAMP GROUP. 
          OH, A DIFFERENT GROUP. 
          YEAH. 
          DAVID. 
          NO, THEY'RE DOING ONE. 
          DAVID, THEY'RE DOING, DOING SOMETHING ON DECEMBER 7TH, ISN'T THEIR, UM, DECEMBER. 
          UM, CAN WE, CAN WE START WITH GETTING SOME TYPE OF CARDS OR FLYERS ORDERED? I'D RATHER HAVE, I DON'T KNOW. 
          IT'S NOT NECESSARILY MY OPINION, BUT I'D RATHER HAVE LIKE THE HARDER CARDS THAN NECESSARILY LIKE A PIECE OF PAPER FLYER. 
          UM, BUT WE NEED TO GET THOSE LIKE ASAP IF WE'RE ONLY GONNA HAVE THIS OPEN TILL THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          I MEAN, NEXT WEEK IS THE 15TH, THE END OF NEXT WEEK. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO WE GOTTA GO, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA GET IT DONE. 
          UM, AND THEN WE CAN CREATE SOME TYPE OF A, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE DID WITH THE VOTER REGISTRATION, YOU KNOW, I GO HERE, YOU GO THERE AND PASS THEM OUT, STICK 'EM ON CARS. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REQUEST FROM REMA RAMA, UM, THAT WE GET IT UP ON THE KEY ADS AND ON THE SIGN IN FRONT OF CLOUD PARK, WHICH I THINK IS KEY ADS TOO. 
          IS IS IT NOT? I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. 
          HAS ANYBODY SEEN IT? OKAY. 
          I HAVEN'T SEEN IT ALL. 
          I WILL. 
          AND I HAVEN'T SEEN IT ON ANY OF THE FACEBOOK PAGES AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE THERE'S SOME BUSY PAGES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND I'M, YEAH. 
          AND I'M SORRY. 
          AND MAYBE ALSO, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ALL GET EMAILS FROM THE HUBER HEIGHTS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. 
          OH YEAH, I DO. 
          THEY HAVE VARIOUS EVENTS GOING ON YEAH. 
          THROUGHOUT THE REMAINDER OF THE MONTH. 
          UM, SOME OF THESE EVENTS,  ARE DURING THE WORK DAY, BUT I SEE ONE THAT'S NEXT THURSDAY FROM 1130 UNTIL ONE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON WITH JOSH COPELAND. 
          OH, YOU'RE THINKING LIKE, GO TO THOSE EVENTS AND PASS OUT? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, HOW, HOW LONG? MAYBE WE NEED TO FIND OUT HOW LONG IT TAKES THEM TO, TO BUMP SOMETHING OUT LIKE THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT JUST IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL BE ONE RESOURCE. 
          YEAH. 
          AS FAR AS DISSEMINATING THESE FLYERS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND WHOEVER IS AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, ON COMMISSION, THEY CAN BRIEFLY, YOU KNOW, PASS THAT OUT. 
          WE CAN HAVE OUR COMMUNICATIONS COORDINATOR, UM, PUT US TOGETHER AN EMAIL BLAST, LIKE AN EMAIL FORM THAT YOU CAN SEND TO US AND WE CAN SEND OUT TO EVERYONE OR SOMETHING FOR FACEBOOK. 
          UM, SO IT CAN BE UNIFORM, WHAT WE'RE SENDING FROM THE COMMISSION. 
          MM-HMM. 
           LIKE, HERE'S YOUR SCRIPT. 
          THIS IS WHAT YOU SEND. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, JUST SOMETHING SWEET AND TO THE POINT SO WE'RE NOT GETTING OFF LIKE A SCRIPT. 
          NOTHING MAJOR, LIKE A COUPLE SENTENCES. 
          UH, DO YOU THINK THAT'S POSSIBLE, JEFFREY? FOR THE FLYER? FOR THE CARD OR FLYER OR WHAT? THE QR CODE? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? YEAH. 
          UM, SOMETHING MULTICULTURALLY LOOKING. 
          UM, YEAH, I THINK, I THINK WE, IT WASN'T PART OF THE RFP. 
          NO, BUT I THINK THAT'S NOT ALL. 
          I MEAN, WE CAN MAKE A QR CODE THAT'S NO, I MEAN, WE'RE QR CODE. 
          WE ALREADY HAVE A QR CODE. 
          WE HAVE A QR CODE. 
          WE JUST, WE ALREADY HAVE A QR CODE. 
          IT'S JUST THE IDEA OF WHAT YOU GOT. 
          LIKE, IF YOU WANT IT TO LEAD YOU TO THE FORM, SHORT, SWEET GETS THE POINT. 
          YEP. 
          SOMETHING SHORT TO THE SUITE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO CAPTURE AND WHEN WE WANT IT BY. 
          I THINK, I THINK THE, I THINK I CAN ASK, RIGHT? SO I THINK I I CAN DO THAT. 
          RIGHT? IT'S THE WORST. 
          OR IS THAT SOMETHING INTERNALLY WE NEED TO DO AND COME OUTTA OUR BUDGET TO PRINT THE CARDS? EITHER WAY, WE CAN, IF WE NEED TO DO IT, WE STILL HAVE A BUDGET, RIGHT? WE STILL HAVE MONEY LEFT. 
          YEAH. 
          FOR THIS YEAR. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          IT'S ALMOST END OF THE YEAR. 
          MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE CHANGE LEFT. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYTHING LEFT FOR THIS YEAR? THERE SHOULD BE SOME MONEY LEFT IN THERE. 
          IF ANYTHING, I CAN TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE CAN PULL IT UP. 
          BUT I GOTTA ASK, LET ME, LET ME ASK AND SEE IF I CAN DO IT. 
          CAN YOU, UH, GET US AN EMAIL LIKE BY THE EARLY NEXT WEEK? TUESDAY, MONDAY? YEAH, MONDAY'S A HOLIDAY. 
          UM, I'LL, I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHAT, FOR US GOVERNMENT FOLKS, AND I'M OUT OF TOWN WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY. 
          I'LL SHOOT. 
          SO I'LL SHOOT YOU EMAIL TUESDAY  THURSDAYS DAYS. 
          WHAT? UM, YOU SAID THAT IT'S 
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BEEN POSTED ON FACEBOOK. 
          HAVE WE DONE MARKETING ON FACEBOOK? I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT. 
          HAVE WE DONE PAID MARKETING PAID ADVERTISEMENT? YES. 
          UM, NO. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE SO. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN WE DO THAT? CAN WE? YES, I CAN. 
          I KNOW WE CAN DO IT, BUT I'M REQUESTING THAT WE DO THAT. 
          CAN WE, SO THAT WE, WE CAN GET IT OUT MORE. 
          BECAUSE AS IT STANDS, YOU'RE ONLY GONNA SEE IT IF YOU'RE ON THE CITY PAGE OR WHATEVER. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          SO WE'RE NOT REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO YOUR MARKETING WILL REACH OUT TO PEOPLE. 
          YOU CAN SET THE PARAMETERS BY ZIP CODE OR WHATEVER. 
          YEAH. 
          YEP. 
          LET ME, THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER ASK. 
          YEAH. 
          SHE'S JUST, SO I WOULD NOT, IF I AM, UH, I, I WOULDN'T FILL THIS OUT. 
          I'M GONNA BE HONEST, INTRODUCE, I FILLED IT OUT. 
          BUT IF I'M A RESIDENT AND YOU GIVE ME THIS AND IT, THIS LOOKS REAL LONG, , THIS IS GONNA TAKE ME ABOUT 15, 20 MINUTES TO FILL OUT. 
          THAT'S MY INITIAL, WHEN I LOOK AT IT, I'LL TELL MM-HMM. 
           WHY PEOPLE ARE NOT FILLING IT OUT. 
          I'VE SENT IT TO QUITE A FEW PEOPLE I'VE POSTED ON MY FACEBOOK PAGE. 
          UM, IS IT JUST THE PUSHBACK THAT IT'S TOO LONG? OR IS IT, WHY WON'T IT? LIKE THEY'RE NOT FILLING IT OUT OR IT'S LONG? NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          LIKE, LIKE MY QUESTION I'M ASKING. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO LIKE WHEN YOU ASK THEM TO SEND IT, OR LIKE WHEN YOU ASK THEM TO DO THE SURVEY AND THEN THEIR RESPONSE IS, OH, IT'S TOO LONG, I'M NOT GONNA DO IT. 
          OR IS IT LIKE THEY, WHOA, IT'S TOO LONG RIGHT NOW. 
          TOO LONG, BUT I'LL DO IT STILL. 
          YOU OPENED IT AND IT'S OVERWHELMING. 
          'CAUSE YOU SEE ALL OF THE QUESTIONS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE COMPLETING IT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I KNOW THE FIRST RESPONSE IS, WOW, THIS IS LONG. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING. 
          SO THAT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, UM, CHALLENGE YOUR RESPONSES. 
          ALSO, UM, IF YOU CHECK YOUR, YOUR FACEBOOK PAGE, THERE WAS A RESIDENT ON THERE THAT HAD A RESPONSE AS WELL ABOUT THE LANGUAGE OF THE SURVEY. 
          SO JUST GIVEN THE POLITICAL CLIMATE, THERE ARE GONNA BE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT GONNA COMPLETE IT BECAUSE OF THE WOKENESS WAS ONE THING THAT SOMEONE SAID . 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          DEI WOKENESS. 
          UM, AND THEN THE LANGUAGE IS TO, UH, OH, AND I'M RESPONSE WAS, I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT IT'S ANONYMOUS. 
          RIGHT. 
          ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY ASKED FOR THE EMAIL ADDRESS. 
          THAT'S THE LAST QUESTION. 
          UM, IT HAS A DEI BIAS, WHICH, WHICH OFFENDS JUST BY USE OF THE TERM, I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THE TERM DEI, BUT I THINK DIVERSITY WAS IN THERE. 
          BUT THAT BECOMES JUST BECAUSE OF THE CLIMATE, PEOPLE ARE NOT SURE. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEP. 
          SO YOU'RE GONNA LOSE PEOPLE EVEN WITH THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT, AND THAT WAS THE RESPONSE FROM THE RESIDENT. 
          BUT I THINK, I THINK SURE. 
          AND I, AND I, AT LEAST I UNDERSTOOD THAT, RIGHT? THAT'S WHY WE KIND OF WENT TO HOW THE NAME OF THE SURVEY WAS CHANGED. 
          IT WASN'T JUST CALLED DEI STREET OFF THE BACK. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT WAS CULTURE AND DIVERSITY. 
          SO LIKE, THE IDEA WAS WE'RE PLACATING TO AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR DIVERSE, BECAUSE I MEAN, THE FIRST THING SOMEONE WOULD SAY ABOUT CUBA HEIGHTS IS THAT IT'S DIVERSE, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PLAYING, YOU'RE PLAYING TO THE DIVERSITY, YOU'RE PLAYING TO OUR IMMIGRANT POPULATION. 
          AND THAT IS WHERE WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO GET TO FOR THE DIFFERENT FACETS OF DIFFERENT CULTURES THAT WE KIND OF HAVE LIVING IN HERE HEIGHTS. 
          SO I, I UNDERSTOOD THAT LIKE YOU WERE GONNA HAVE LIKE THE NEGATIVE, LIKE, NEGATIVITY IN THE SURVEY ITSELF, BUT IT WAS JUST THE IDEA OF LIKE, HOPEFULLY WE CAN KIND OF MOVE PAST THAT, BUT THEN STILL WE TRY TO OBVIOUSLY REACH ACROSS AND TRY TO FIND THOSE SECTIONS IN THOSE AREAS WHERE, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVEN'T BEEN MET AT BEFORE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IT'S THE IDEA, RIGHT? SURE. 
          WE'RE SENDING IT OUT THERE, WE'RE WE'RE PUTTING IT OUT THERE. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S TOO UPON ALL OF US, RIGHT? ARE WE GOING TO WHERE THEY ARE? RIGHT. 
          AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THESE PEOPLE AND, AND TALK TO 'EM AND, AND, AND TELL 'EM, HEY, THIS IS WORTH INVESTED IN. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M, I'M HOPING THAT EVERYBODY ON THIS SITE IS DOING THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE'RE, UM, WE'LL BE DEVELOPING A PLAN FOR THAT. 
          THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THE INCENTIVE FOR FILLING IT OUT, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES WHEN YOU ASK PEOPLE A SURVEY, THERE'S SOMETHING YEAH. 
          RETURN FOR THAT. 
          NOW YOU ASKING ME FOR 20 MINUTES OF MY TIME, WHAT FEELS LIKE TO MINUTES YEAH. 
          . 
          SO YEAH. 
          SO LIKE, WE, LIKE, I THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS TALKED TO 'EM AGAIN TO GET IN ABOUT WHAT RAM WAS LIKE, KIND OF TRYING TO STAY AWAY FROM LIKE, THE IDEA OF INCENTIVES BECAUSE THEY FELT, AND THIS IS FROM THE SURVEYS 
          [01:00:01]
THAT THEY'VE DONE, IF WE'VE GIVEN THAT INCENTIVES, THEN YOU START TO FLOOD IT WITH MULTIPLE SURVEYS TO TRY TO GET THAT INCENTIVES. 
          SO IT'S AS EASY AS SOMEBODY TRYING TO CREATE A NEW EMAIL ADDRESS AND THEN TRYING TO HURRY UP AND FILL OUT THE E OR TRY TO FILL OUT THE SERVICE SO THEY CAN GET THAT INCENTIVE. 
          UM, THAT, THAT WAS THEIR EXPLANATION. 
          UM, BUT I, I CAN UNDERSTAND RIGHT, HOW WE KIND OF WANT PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY DO IT AND THEY'RE TAKING THEIR TIME TO ACTUALLY DO IT, GIVE 'EM SOMETHING FOR THAT TIME THAT THEY'VE SHARED WITH US TO KIND OF GET THAT INFORMATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          I, I CAN, I CAN UNDERSTAND IT. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL THAT WAS MY, JUST, JUST MY INPUT BASED ON WHAT I SAW. 
          RESPONSES ON FACEBOOK AND PLAYING THE OTHER SIDE OF THINGS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, AND JUST TO LEAVE ONE THING, UM, JUST WITH EVERYONE KIND OF TAKING A LOOK AT THIS, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ON IT. 
          A LOT OF STUFF THAT KIND OF INCORPORATES WHAT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO DO AND PARTNERSHIP WITH STAFF AS WELL AS COUNSEL. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S JUST SOME THINGS THAT ARE GONNA TAKE PLACE. 
          UM, LIKE I SAID, NOTHING HAS BEEN APPROVED OR AGREED UPON. 
          UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, MORE THAN WELCOME, LIKE, LIKE WANTING ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OR OTHER OPTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAD, UM, IN THIS NEW, UM, UH, UM, UPDATE TO THE SCHEDULE. 
          UM, IF YOU GUYS COULD, THE SOONER, THE BETTER. 
          IT'D BE GREAT. 
          KIND OF TAKE A DIVE AT IT AND THEN IF YOU HAD YOUR IDEAS KIND OF GAVE, GET IT TO ME, KIND OF, I HOPE, HOPE BY NEXT WEEK IF POSSIBLE. 
          WHAT, WHAT IS SPECIFICALLY UNIQUE FEEDBACK ON JUST, JUST WITH ANYTHING? JUST, JUST EVERYTHING. 
          LIKE, NOTHING, NOTHING THAT I'VE SEEN, UM, COMES TO MIND, BUT IT'S WHATEVER YOU GUYS THINK THAT YOU GUYS WAS LIKE, HEY, MAYBE WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT DOING IT THIS WAY, OR MAYBE WE SHOULD DO THIS. 
          JUST, JUST OPEN UP THAT, YOU KNOW, THOUGHT OF SOMETHING WE DIDN'T SEE DIFFERENTLY OR THINGS THAT WE, WE DIDN'T SEE. 
          TRYING TO SEE IF THAT WORKED. 
          HOW DOES IT WORK WHEN THEY, SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, IN DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR, THEY WANT, UM, TO CONVENE A CULTURE AND DIVERSITY PLANNING TEAM. 
          AND THEY SAY THREE PEOPLE FROM THIS COMMISSION. 
          SO DECEMBER MEETING, YOU GOING TO SAY WHO THE THREE VOLUNTEERS OR 'CAUSE THE HOW DO YOU KNOW THE SCHEDULE OR WHAT DAYS OR SO THAT'S RIGHT. 
          SO, SO EXCUSE ME. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED IF WE CAN KIND OF MAKE IT RELATIVELY QUICK, LIKE GET THAT INFORMATION FROM YOU ALL KIND OF QUICKLY. 
          MM. 
          UM, AND KIND OF BACK TO ME WITHIN NEXT WEEK HOPEFULLY. 
          UM, I'M, I AM. 
          'CAUSE RIGHT, WE'RE PRESSED AGAINST, THE HOLIDAYS ARE COMING UP SOON. 
          UM, I'VE HAD DATES THROWN OUT THERE. 
          UM, WHAT CONVENE LIKE CONVENING TIMES, UM, AND AGAIN, LIKE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS MORE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PUT IT ON THERE. 
          UM, BUT FOR THAT PLANNING TEAM, UM, IT'S GONNA BE, UM, A REAL BIG DEDICATION FOR WHOEVER'S, UM, DECIDES TO KIND OF BE ON THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          OH, WAIT, STOP. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          IT SAYS SELECTION OF ALL THE, OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS WILL BE MADE BY THE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. 
          SO THERE'S NO VOLUNTEERING FOR THE PLANNING TEAM. 
          FOR THIS WHOLE PLANNING TEAM. 
          THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          YEAH. 
          THREE CITIZENS COMMISSION MEMBERS, THREE STAFF MEMBERS AND THREE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. 
          OH, OH, OKAY. 
          SELECTION. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          WILL BE MADE BY THE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. 
          SO IT'S NOT LIKE A OH YEAH. 
          OH, YOU, SO YOU JUST MEAN FOR THE ACTUAL CITIZENS OR THE VOLUNTEERS? THIS THIS PLANNING TEAM. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY ARE SELECTING, YEAH. 
          FOR THE VOLUNTEER ASPECTS. 
          WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING, LIKE, OKAY, WHEN DO THEY, WHEN DO THEY LET PEOPLE KNOW? LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S, IT IS, IT'S GONNA BE DECEMBER MM-HMM. 
           REALLY SOON. 
          DO THE, THE CITY, DO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, ARE THEY ALREADY BEING CONTACTED? ARE THEY ALREADY AS OF, AS OF TODAY? I AM NOT SURE. 
          I THINK WE GOT THIS YESTERDAY, THIS MEMO, THIS UPDATED MEMO YESTERDAY, AND JOHN PROBABLY LOOKED AT IT LIKE ONCE. 
          OH, SO, SO IT'S THE IDEA THAT YOU GUYS, IT'S IN FRONT OF YOU ALL RIGHT NOW? YEAH. 
          YOU GUYS CAN LOOK AT IT 
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AND I'M HOPEFUL WE'VE GOT A PLAN AND A MOTION TO, TO DO SOMETHING LIKE BY NEXT WEEK. 
          MM. 
          SO THAT'S LIKE, I, I WILL FIGURE THIS WOULD BE EITHER LIKE, APPROVE WITH EDITS AND WE'LL BE MOVING ON THIS LIKE QUICK TO KINDA GET SOME OF THIS STUFF LIKE DONE, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE KIND OF PRESSED WITH TIME, SO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS NEW PLAN. 
          NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          I JUST NEED YOU GUYS TO EDIT. 
          LIKE IF YOU GUYS THINK, BECAUSE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA MAKE THE, THE ACTUAL APPROVE OR TO APPROVE IT, JOHN, IT'S CITY STAFF. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          AND, AND WHAT COUNCIL IS LOOKING TO DO. 
          SO THE ONLY THING THAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS JUST EDITS FEEDBACK. 
          SEND IT TO ME AND I CAN PASS IT TO, TO JOHN . 
          WHAT DOES THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE FINAL PROJECT DELIVERABLES MEAN? THIS PLANNING TEAM LIKE, LIKE THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DEVELOP THE DELIVERABLES IN TANDEM WITH RAMA IN ADDITION TO IS LIKE, WASN'T THAT THEIR JOB? AND THAT WHAT WE PAYING THEM FOR WHICH ONE YOU WANT? SO WAIT, FIRST PAGE WHERE IT SAYS, RAMA RECOMMENDS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS TEAM TO ENGAGE IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE DELIVERABLES. 
          THEY LIKE GIVE THEM FEEDBACK, TALK ABOUT IT WITH US. 
          I THINK THAT'S FINE. 
          UM, BUT THEY WANT THE CROSS SECTION TO, TO THEIR FEEDBACK TO FIGURE OUT IF, WHAT DO WE ALL NEED? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WASN'T LIKE WE WERE DEVELOPING THESE MATERIALS . 
          I'M LIKE, I DON'T HAVE ANY, I DON'T HAVE ANY BIG FEELINGS ABOUT A NEW TIMELINE. 
          I FELT LIKE WE WERE FLYING THROUGH IT ANYWAY. 
          SO STOPPING AND TAKING A STEP BACK IS, I'M OF COURSE IN AGREEMENT WITH, UM, I THINK WE NEEDED A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A MORE ROBUST MARKETING PLAN. 
          UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT SEEMS TO BE KIND OF FOCUSED IN NOVEMBER. 
          UM, SO MAYBE WITH THIS COLLECTIVE PUSH THAT WE'RE ALL GOING TO DO TO HELP PUSH THIS WORK, WE CAN GET MORE THAN LESS THAN, LESS THAN HALF OF A PERCENT OF THE POPULATION  RESPONDING. 
          IT'S 0.001%. 
          SO THIS IS RAMA DEVELOP THIS PLAN. 
          THIS IS THEIRS, RIGHT? THIS IS THEIR PLAN. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS, YEAH. 
          THIS UPDATE. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS IS FROM THEM. 
          HOW WILL THE STAFF FOCUS GROUPS BE ON WHAT, UM, HOW ARE THE PEOPLE FOR THESE GROUPS SHOWN? SO WE OH, FOR THE STAFF FOCUS? SO YEAH. 
          SO WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, SO THE NOTION, I THINK THEY WERE HAVING, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON THERE. 
          YEAH, IT'S RIGHT THERE. 
          SO WE WOULD HAVE, UM, ONE FOCUS GROUP FOR POLICE AND FIRE. 
          WE'D HAVE TWO FOR, UH, UM, GENERAL STAFF, AND THEN ONE FOR, UM, LEADERSHIP. 
          UM, AND I THINK FOR WHAT RAMA'S FOCUS OR HOW THEY WANTED TO CONDUCT THESE, UM, FOCUS GROUPS, UM, THEY WOULD JUST BE LIKE ONE DAY. 
          UM, AND THE IDEA THAT THEY WERE HOPING IS WE JUST KIND OF LIKE, SEND OUT A BLURB OR A EMAIL BLAST TO ALL CITY STAFF AND TRY TO MAKE SURE, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT THEY HAD EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF BE AT THIS. 
          UM, AGAIN, I THINK THE IDEA OF THIS, IT ISN'T MANDATORY FOR SOMEONE TO BE THERE, BUT IT'S JUST HOW, AND AGAIN, IT'S HOW WE KIND OF ADVERTISE IT FOR STAFF TO KIND OF BE AT THIS BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS IS HAPPENING IN NOVEMBER. 
          IS THIS THE CITY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IDENTIFYING TIME FOR THESE GROUPS AND DISTRIBUTING PROMOTIONAL REGISTRATION INFORMATION TO THE STAFF? DO WE HAVE THAT? I CAN'T, WHAT WAS, HAVE THE DATES? I HAVE THE DATES BEEN IDENTIFIED SINCE IT'S 11 SEVEN NOW. 
          AND THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE IN NOVEMBER. 
          SO I'M STILL, SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, I DON'T EVEN HAVE THE STAFF SURVEY. 
          SO I, I'M STILL WAITING FOR THE STAFF SURVEY TO GO OUT. 
          SO FIRST, FIRST AND F FIRST THING THAT I NEED IS I NEED THE STAFF SURVEY TO GO OUT. 
          AND THE STAFF SURVEY HASN'T GONE OUT YET. 
          SO I NEED THAT TO GO OUT. 
          ONCE THAT'S OUT AND THAT'S BEEN OUT FOR TWO WEEKS, THEN WE CAN DO THE FOCUS GROUP. 
          SO 
          [01:10:02]
I IT IS JUST ONE, ONE BEFORE THE OTHER. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY DATES TO ACTUALLY GIVE YOU, BUT I, SO THE SURVEY COMES BACK, YOU GET THE RES, YOU GET THE VOLUNTEERS TO SELECT WHO WOULD GO TO THE FOCUS GROUP? WELL, IT WOULDN'T BE, IT WOULDN'T BE A SELECTION. 
          IT WOULD JUST BE ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO OBVIOUSLY SIGN UP FOR OH, VOLUNTEERS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO I WOULD NEED, I NEED THE SURVEY TO GO OUT AND AGAIN, RIGHT. 
          SO WE'RE PRESSED AGAIN. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S A LOT OF WORK THAT I NEED TO DO BETWEEN NEXT WEEK AND THANKSGIVING. 
          SO MAYBE TWO AND A HALF WEEKS. 
          SO THE STAFF SURVEY GOES UP ACROSS THE CITIES? MM-HMM. 
          , ALL THE CITY STAFF. 
          IS THAT VIA EMAIL? HOW IS THAT GOING OUT? UH, EMAIL. 
          I BELIEVE EVERYBODY HAS THAT. 
          I BELIEVE EMAIL. 
          EVERYBODY HAS EMAIL AT THE CITY. 
          UH, I WANNA SAY NOT EVERYBODY. 
          SO I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT 200 ISH OR 200 PLUS EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE IT. 
          I'M NOT FOR SURE IF EVERY LIKE PART-TIME EMPLOYEE HAS AN EMAIL AND THEN IT'S MAYBE CLOSE TO 300 PEOPLE THEN. 
          SO NEED TO THINK ABOUT HOW ARE WE GONNA GET THAT SURVEY TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE EMAIL? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT I'M ON IT. 
          SO WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT. 
          YEAH. 
          WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR, I MEAN THE LAUNCH DAY 1111, ARE WE NOT TELLING THEM WHEN WE WANT THINGS LAUNCHED? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RAMA. 
          YEAH. 
          OH, RAMA. 
          BECAUSE IT'S WHAT'S, WHAT'S HAPPENING? SO STAFF SURVEYS SUPPOSED TO, SO YEAH, SO, SO LIKE, I, I AM ONLY WAITING. 
          LIKE I'M, I'M JUST WAITING. 
          LIKE I'M WAITING FOR EDITS. 
          I'M WAITING FOR THINGS TO GET DONE. 
          LIKE THAT IS, THAT IS MY HOLD UP. 
          SO LIKE, SO IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY EDITS FOR THIS, YOU BASICALLY GIVE THIS BACK TO CITY MANAGER, JOHN, AND THEN THEY, HE YOU, Y'ALL START EXECUTING. 
          YEAH. 
          BASICALLY YOU GIVE IT BACK TO RAMA AND SAY, MM-HMM. 
           GO FOR IT. 
          SO YOU, YOU EXPECT THE SURVEY TO COME BACK IN, GET IT OUT, AND THEN FOLLOW ALONG WITH WHAT THIS IS, CORRECT? YEAH. 
          WAIT, I'M SO CONFUSED. 
          THE EDITS FROM WHO US? THE EDITS FROM THIS, WE JUST WANT, THEY JUST WANTS US FROM NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE STAFF SURVEY. 
          THE STAFF SURVEY IS SUPPOSED TO LAUNCH. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO LET'S, HE DOESN'T HAVE IT BACK YET. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S HANG ON. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          FROM WHERE? FROM. 
          SO, SO AS OF THE, AS OF LAST WEEK OR AS OF THIS WEEK, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS WHEN I TALKED TO MY BOSS, THE HR DIRECTOR HAD THE EDITS AND SHE HAS NOT GI I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY RETURN FROM EDITS TO TELL RAMA, OKAY, HEY, WE'RE READY TO GO LAUNCH. 
          LIKE, HERE ARE THESE EDITS FROM THE SURVEY THAT YOU HAD GAVE ME. 
          HERE ARE THE EDITS. 
          MAKE THE EDITS LAUNCH, THE SURVEY STAFF HAS IT, IT TAKES TWO WEEKS. 
          THEY DO IT, WE GET THOSE RESULTS BACK. 
          WE CAN THEN, WHILE THE ACTUAL SURVEY IS MOVING FORWARD, I CAN GIVE THEM THE DATES OF WHEN WE WANT TO DO FOCUS GROUPS. 
          MAKE THAT E HAVE THAT EMAIL BLAST SET OUT ADVERTISEMENT AROUND, WHETHER THAT BE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, PUBLIC WORKS, WATER, WHEREVER YOU NAME IT, TO MAKE LIKE, HAVE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT HEY, WE'RE DOING A STAFF SURVEY AND IF PEOPLE WANT TO VOLUNTEER TO SIGN UP FOR IT, WE GIVE 'EM THAT EVERY RIGHT TO DO THAT. 
          AND THEN WE START TO CONDUCT THE SURVEYS. 
          I WOULD HOPE WE CAN GET IT IN BEFORE THANKSGIVING. 
          OH, HE'S OKAY. 
          YOU SEE WHAT HE'S SAYING? HMM. 
          YOU SEE WHAT, YOU GET WHAT HE'S SAYING? YEAH. 
          SO WE'RE WAITING FOR EDITS FROM HR. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO FOR JUST, JUST FOR THE, JUST FOR THE STAFF SURVEY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO JUST FOR THE STAFF SURVEY YEAH. 
          THE EDITS AND ADDITIONAL EDITS THAT I WOULD LIKE FROM YOU ALL, IF YOU GUYS WANTED TO, ANY OTHER THING THAT IS ON HERE. 
          IF YOU GUYS HAPPEN TO THINK IT'S FINE, THAT'S COOL. 
          IF YOU THOUGHT, HEY, MAYBE WE SHOULD TRY THIS, OR HEY, MAYBE WE SHOULD DO THIS. 
          NO, THIS LOOKS GOOD. 
          IT'S THE OFFER. 
          I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. 
          IT'S THE OFFER TO DO. 
          YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, WHAT ARE THE, I DON'T KNOW. 
          THERE'S PROBABLY SOME STUFF WE CAN PROBABLY HAVE THE TABLE ON, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANYTHING WE CAN TAKE ON YOUR, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA BE HERE TILL MIDNIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M, SO WE NEED TO FLUSH THIS OUT. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW. 
          CAN WE PUT OUR COLLECTIVE QUESTIONS INTO AN EMAIL IF THERE ARE SOME AND GET THEM OVER TO THEM? I MEAN, MONDAY'S A HOLIDAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T EXPECT THEM ON, LIKE, THAT'S WHY I SAID IF YOU GUYS CAN DO IT AT THE END OF THE WEEK OR WHATEVER, THAT'S FINE. 
          SO CAN YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC? END OF THE WEEK? YEAH. 
          FRIDAY THE 15TH. 
          FRIDAY END OF DAY. 
          THAT WORKS FOR ME. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, LEMME JUST 
          [01:15:01]
ASK ONE MORE QUESTION. 
          THIS SELECTION OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS MADE BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, RAMA IS SAYING THAT YEAH. 
          RAM THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS IS FROM RAMA AND THEN THEY SENT THAT OVER TO US. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN I ASK TWO REALLY QUICK QUESTIONS? GOING BACK TO THE MARKETING THINGS REALLY QUICK, TERRY, YOU ASKED ME TO DO A SCRIPT FOR EMAIL. 
          CAN YOU CLARIFY PLEASE? WHAT THAT WAS, WHAT YOU WANTED ME TO DO? JUST, UM, LIKE AN EMAIL THAT WE CAN SEND OUT FROM OUR COMMISSION WITH THE QR CODE WITH JUST A QUICK BLURB. 
          GOTCHA. 
          THAT SAYS WHY WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO THE SURVEY. 
          OKAY. 
          WHICH, I MEAN, WE COULD STEAL THE CITIES TOO. 
          THAT'S AVAILABLE. 
          YEAH, I THINK THERE'S, THERE SHOULD BE A PRESS I SAW, I SAW THE ONE YOLANDA SHARED TO ONE OF THE HEBREW PAGES. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          OH, SO MAYBE WE COPY BACK. 
          YOU CAN ALWAYS STEAL THAT ONE IN THE EMAIL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT. 
          YEAH, LET'S FORWARD IT THAT. 
          UM, JUST SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT LIKE EACH MAKING UP OUR OWN LITTLE SCRIPT AND THEN NOT YOU CAN JUST KEEP IT UNIFORM. 
          I KNOW WE NEED TO MOVE ON AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT I NEED TO MAKE A CORRECTION 'CAUSE I, I MISSPOKE EARLIER AND WE'RE LIVE AND BEING RECORDED AND ALL THAT, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE I, UM, EARLIER I HAD SAID THAT THE OPTIMIST CLUB WAS DOING THE TREE LIGHTING UP HERE. 
          THAT'S NOT RIGHT. 
          THEY SPONSOR THE TREE. 
          THE, THE TREE LOT. 
          YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          NEXT TO THE TREE. 
          YEAH. 
          THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY THOUGH, HAS BEEN DOING THEIR OWN TREE LIGHTING FOR YEARS. 
          OH. 
          AND, AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH A PARADE. 
          SO THERE'S STUFF GOING ON LIKE THE FIRST AND THEN THE SEVENTH THERE'S, THERE'S MARKETING OPPORTUNITIES. 
          SO YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. 
          UM, TO MAKE THAT CORRECTION. 
          THEY DON'T, THE OPTIMIST CLUB DOESN'T DO THE TREE LIGHTING. 
          THAT'S THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND PARKS AND RICK THE TREE THAT'S NEXT. 
          MS. PARK TOLD ME THEY DO ONE ON THE SET HUBBERT TREE. 
          THAT IS THE TREE THAT'S NEXT TO THE OPTIMIST LOT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S THE TREE LIGHTING. 
          YEAH. 
          THE ONE THAT'S ON CHAMBERSBURG. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN THE PARKS AND REC. 
          SHANNON TOLD ME THEY'RE DOING ONE ON THE SEVENTH, BUT I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE AFTER THE PARADE. 
          PARADE AFTER THE PARADE. 
          AND SHE SAID, YOU CAN COME TO THE TREE LIGHTING. 
          AND I WAS LIKE, OH, THERE'S ANOTHER TREE LIGHTING. 
          MAYBE IT'S DOWN. 
          'CAUSE THE PARADE WILL ENDED THE HIGH SCHOOL. 
          RIGHT. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS THOMAS CLOUD. 
          I THINK IT JUST GOES DOWN CHAMBERS BIRTH. 
          LET'S LET CITY. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WE NOW HAVE CITY COUNCIL LOOPED INTO THIS PROCESS AND THEY'RE AWARE OF EVERYTHING. 
          RIGHT? WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS THAT? WE NOW HAVE CITY COUNCIL LOOPED INTO THIS PROCESS. 
          THEY, THEY'RE GOOD WITH EVERYTHING THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF FOR THE SURVEY. 
          FOR THE SURVEY, YEAH. 
          UM, I, I'M GONNA SAY YES. 
          UM, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS ACTUAL UPDATE TO THE ACTUAL TIME LAP, I'M NOT FOR SURE YET. 
          I DON'T KNOW JOHN'S PASSED THAT TO COUNSEL YET. 
          I WILL SAY THAT I, I'M JUST BE HONEST, I DON'T LIKE THE TIMELINE BECAUSE THIS IS A BAD TIME TIMING. 
          THIS IS THE HOLIDAY TIME  AND THIS IS THE LAST THING THAT PEOPLE WANT TO YEP. 
          DO AND BE INVOLVED IN. 
          SO THAT'S MY, IT'S HARD TO PUSH ANYTHING THROUGH THIS TIME OF YOUR, THAT'S MY FEEDBACK FROM THE WHOLE PROCESS. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          ANYONE ELSE COMMENTS ABOUT THIS? CONCERNS QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. 
          UH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. 
          SO LIKE, WHAT HAPPENS IF LIKE, THEY DON'T MEET THESE TIMELINES IF COUNSEL OR STAFF DOESN'T LIKE IT? NO, WE JUST DON'T, THEY DON'T MEET THE TIMELINES, LET'S SAY LIKE, IT'S, IT DOESN'T LAUNCH ON THE 11TH OR WHATEVER. 
          SO I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'VE, NOW WE'RE JUST MOVING THE GOALPOST BACK, RIGHT? SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE NOW, BUT WE WANT TO GET THE WORK BACK FROM WHAT RAMA TOLD ME, THEY LIKE, THEY'RE FINE WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT I THINK THAT'S STUFF THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE, LIKE THE STAFF SURVEY, RIGHT? THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HITTING MARKS ON SO THAT IT DOESN'T MESS UP TIMELINES. 
          SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO TALK TO WHEN IT COMES TO STAFF HERE. 
          RIGHT? WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THAT OUT. 
          SO I'M VERY, I'M OPTIMISTIC THAT WE WILL GET THIS STUFF OUT IN A TIMELY MANNER AND IF WE'RE OFF MAYBE BY A DAY, IT WON'T HURT US IN THE LONG RUN. 
          AND YOU SAID THERE'S 85 SURVEYS LIKE THAT AS OF, WHAT WAS THAT WEDNESDAY? I THINK I GOT 85. 
          85. 
          THAT'S COMMUNITY 
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SURVEYS. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO BE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST HAMMERING YOU JEFFREY. 
          UM, ANY UPDATE ON THE CITY'S DIVERSITY TRAINING OR EEOC TRACKING ABILITIES? SO I SHOT AN EMAIL OVER TO THE HR DIRECTOR. 
          THE ONLY THING THAT I GOT RIGHT NOW, UM, I WOULD FIGURE IT WAS RELATED TO, OH GOD, WHAT'S THE, HANG ON BEAR WITH ME. 
          I'M LOOKING AT IT. 
          UM, THE ONLY THING THAT I GOT RIGHT NOW FOR THE CITY OR CITY DIVERSITY TRAINING AND EOC TRACKING AVAIL AVAILABILITIES, THE ONLY THING I GOT WAS WORKING ON THE TRAINING. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH EEOC, UM, TRACKING ABILITIES YET. 
          SO I'LL JUST SAY THIS FOR NEXT MONTH. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD DISCUSS MAYBE, UM, I JUST WENT THROUGH A COPE TRAINING, WHICH IS, UM, I'S LIKE A POVERTY EXPERIENCE TRAINING, UM, WHERE YOU SPEND A MONTH IN 15 MINUTE WEEKS TRYING TO GET THROUGH YOUR DAY-TO-DAY TASKS AS SOMEBODY EXPERIENCING POVERTY. 
          AND IT WAS KIND OF IMPACT, IT WAS IMPACTFUL AND IT, IT CAME FROM A GROUP IN DAYTON, ALTHOUGH WE DID IT IN COLUMBUS. 
          UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT WE COULD DISCUSS DOING REGARDING MAYBE THE DIVERSITY TRAINING, LIKE A DIFFERENT EXTENSION OF THAT. 
          UM, INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING SOMEBODY TALK AT YOU WITH A POWERPOINT, UM, BUT HAVE SOMETHING MORE HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE WISE ON, ON WHAT IT'S LIKE TO, TO WALK AND EXPERIENCE THESE THINGS. 
          UM, IT, IT, I JUST, THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN HOPEFULLY GET IN CONTACT WITH THAT GROUP AND BRING IT BACK. 
          BUT THE ACRONYM WAS COPE, COPE WAS THE GROUP THAT DID IT AND THEY WERE REALLY, REALLY AMAZING. 
          SO, UM, JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT DIVERSITY TRAININGS AND, AND EXPERIENCES AND, AND THINGS TO HELP EDUCATE, UM, PEOPLE TO THE EXPERIENCES OF OTHERS THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE PERSONALLY HAD. 
          UM, THOSE OF US THAT, THAT HAVE HAD THOSE EXPERIENCES, IT WAS LIKE A LITTLE, LITTLE TRIP BACK WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU'RE GONNA GET TO THE DOCTOR, MAKE YOUR GAS MONEY AND, YOU KNOW, I HAD TO GO TO PROBATION AND PAY PROBATION $200 EVERY WEEK WHILE MY POOR WIFE WAS HOLDING IT DOWN. 
          'CAUSE I WAS NOT A UPSTANDING MEMBER OF SOCIETY, UM, IN MY LITTLE GROUP. 
          SO YEAH, THAT WAS A GOOD ONE. 
          UM, CCRB SEATS AND LANGUAGE. 
          WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS. 
          I JUST, WHEN I WENT BACK THROUGH THIS, WE HAD NINE VOTING MEMBERS AND I JUST DIDN'T THINK THAT IT LIKE, TRANSLATED THE WAY THAT WE HAD SET UP THIS LEGISLATION. 
          BUT UPON REVIEWING IT, I MEAN, I GUESS IT, IT IS THE FIRST THREE SEATS. 
          THE MEMBERSHIP SHOULD BE BALANCED TO REFLECT THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY OF THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE, THIS IS THE WRONG RESOLUTION. 
          SORRY, I WAS READING OUR RESOLUTION, NOT THE CCRB LANGUAGE, UM, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, SO MEMBERS TERMS AND VACANCIES, UH, 1 68 0.04 AND THEN A WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          UM, IT WAS ONE ELECTOR MEMBER RECOMMENDATION BY THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION. 
          THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ONE OF US, USUALLY INTENDED TO BE THE CHAIR OR THE VICE CHAIR. 
          UM, ONE ELECTED MEMBER RECOMMENDATION BY THE NAACP. 
          UM, AND ONE ELECTOR MEMBER RECOMMENDATION BY THE CITY MANAGER WITH A LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND WHO IS NOT ACTIVELY EMPLOYED. 
          UM, AND THEN ONE WITH A LEGAL BACKGROUND. 
          I THINK THAT WAS WHERE, I GUESS MY CONFUSION WAS ERIC DOES, I MEAN, THAT IS HOW WE SET IT UP, BUT I KIND OF FELT LIKE THOSE FIRST FOUR POSITIONS WERE NOT VOLUNTOLD POSITIONS, BUT LIKE NOMINATED POSITIONS. 
          WHEREAS THE REST OF THAT GROUP WOULD BE, UM, APPLICATIONS COMING IN FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT COLLECTIVELY 
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REFLECTED THE, THE DEMOGRAPHIC BREAKDOWNS OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S STILL, IT DOES PIGEONHOLE IT SOME. 
          UM, AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S THE TWO EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS, WHICH IS WHO I HAD THOUGHT WAS WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE POLICE DESIGNEE AND THE CITY MANAGER DESIGNEE THAT ARE A NON-VOTING CAPACITY, UM, TO JUST WEIGH IN ON WHAT CAN AND CANNOT BE DONE FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT. 
          UM, I STILL BELIEVE WE ONLY HAVE ONE APPLICATION OPEN FOR THIS. 
          SO I KNOW I SAW IT ON THE NEWS OR IN THE, LIKE A NEWS ARTICLE WHERE THE POSTINGS WERE MADE AVAILABLE OF THE CITY POSTINGS. 
          UM, BUT THIS MIGHT BE ANOTHER AREA, UM, WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE SOME INTENTIONAL MARKETING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO BE ABLE TO GET THESE SEATS FILLED. 
          UM, THIS WAS NOT A GROUP THAT, UM, WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SEATED ALL THE TIME AND WAS HAVE MONTHLY MEETINGS. 
          IT WAS ONLY AS NEEDED AND CALLED UPON THROUGH POLICE COMPLAINT PROCESSES ALREADY IN PLACE. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO, TO BRING THAT BACK OVER UP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL KNEW WHAT WAS IN THE LEGISLATION, UM, LET ALONE HOW WE CAN TARGET THESE GROUPS AND, AND GET THESE POSITIONS FILLED. 
          SO I'LL JUST SAY THAT HOW DO THEY KNOW TO PUT THEIR NAME FOR, TO GET RECOMMENDED THAT OUT THERE SOMEWHERE? SO IT SAYS LIKE, RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY MANAGER, THEY KNOW TO PUT THEIR NAME IN THE HAND. 
          SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT LIKE WE COULD LIKE POSSIBLY LIKE, SO WE CAN WORK THAT BEHIND THE SCENES, RIGHT? SO COULD COULD VOLUNTEERS, WE CAN SELECT VOLUNTEERS WITHIN THE CITY WHO WOULD OBVIOUSLY KIND OF BE INTERESTED IN THE ACTUAL BOARD. 
          AND THEN IT WOULD JUST BE THE CITY MANAGER. 
          LIKE WE WOULD JUST CLASSIFY IT AS THAT TO MARK IT OFF AS THE CITY MANAGER'S, UM, APPOINTMENT APPOINTMENT. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE MM-HMM. 
          IF INTERVIEW SOMEBODY AND I KNOW SOMEBODY WHO SAID, HEY, WE HAVE THIS BOARD THAT WE WANT, DO THEY JUST WHAT CALL UP THE CITY AND SAY, HEY, I'M INTERESTED IN YEAH, CCRB. 
          YEAH. 
          SO MY NAME OR WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? LIKE THE FIRST ONE? LIKE ONE NO, LOOKING MORE LIKE, UM, THE DEMOGRAPHIC GROUPS. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S THE SAME APPLICATION. 
          CINDY, CINDY DAVISON WAS, I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS SUPPOSED TO SAY THAT, BUT NONETHELESS, UM, , THAT'S FUNNY. 
           ONE APPLICANT. 
          UH, BUT ANY RATE, UM, SO IN THAT SITUATION, THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT'S RIGHT, THEY HAD TWO, LIKE THEY HAD TWO OF THE QUALIFICATIONS THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, RIGHT? SO WE WERE LIKE, WELL, WHICH ONE'S HARDER TO FIND? RIGHT? SO LIKE, I REMEMBER HAVING A PHONE CALL WITH JARED FORWARD, LIKE IN MAY OF ASKING, HEY, CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THIS? UM, SO I TRIED TO GO FIND, HEY, WHO IS A HUBER HEIGHTS RESIDENT THAT IS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE NAACP FROM WHAT HE WAS TELLING ME BY DOING SOME RESEARCH, IT SEEMS LIKE FROM THE MEMBERS THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE, THEY'RE JUST IN A OLDER CAPACITY. 
          SO LIKE SOME OF 'EM HAVE HEALTH ISSUES AND IT'D JUST BE HARDER FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY ACTUALLY GIVE OUT, LIKE GET OUT. 
          I WOULD ALSO SAY HE DID GIVE ME, HE DID GIVE ME OTHER NAMES AND THOSE OTHER NAMES, HOW CAN I PUT THIS? THEY ALSO MET DIFFERENT CRITERIA FOR, UH, THE MEMBERS IN TERMS AND VACANCIES, UM, WITH SOME OF THEM BEING ELECTED OFFICIALS IN THE PAST. 
          UM, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT PATH. 
          UM, SO I LIKE, I'M, I'M LIKE, I'M, I THINK I'M GOING TOO FAR INTO THE WEEDS OF IT, BUT, UM, I KIND OF BACKED OFF IT A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, BUT I'M MORE THAN WELCOME TO KIND OF LIKE HELP THE LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT JUST BECAUSE THE TASK 
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OF FINDING SOMEBODY WHO IS AN NAAC MEMBER AND THAT ALSO LIVES IN HUBERT HEIGHTS BUT DOESN'T HAVE HEALTH CONCERNS AND THAT ARE ABLE, AND THEN ARE ABLE TO ACTUALLY GET OUT AND ACTUALLY DO MEETINGS. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE A MEMBER OF THE NAACP. 
          THEY'RE JUST A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE NAACP. 
          IS THAT WHAT THE LANGUAGE IS? YEAH. 
          ELECTOR MEMBER RECOMMENDATION BY THE GREATER DAYTON CHAPTER OF THE NAACP. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN ELECTOR MEMBER RECOMMENDATION BY THE CITY MANAGER WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND WHO IS NOT ACTIVELY EMPLOYED WITH HUB HEIGHTS POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT WAS REALLY SUPPOSED TO BE CHIEF LIGHTNER. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK, RIGHT. 
          SO IF IT SAYS IT LIKE THAT, I THINK WE COULD, AND THEN ONE WITH THE LEGAL BACKGROUND. 
          OH, I THOUGHT SHE, AND THEN IT GOES INTO THE DEMOGRAPHIC BREAKDOWNS. 
          SO EX OFFICIO, SO THERE'S TWO EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS. 
          LIKE CHIEF LIGHTNER WAS SUPPOSED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR SOMEBODY TO SERVE, BUT CHIEF LIGHTNER AND THE CITY MANAGER OR THE LEGAL PERSON FROM THE CITY ARE THE EX OFFICIO MEMBERS. 
          JUST TO SAY, IF YOU RECOMMENDED THAT MY OFFICER GOES THROUGH THIS TRAINING, WE CAN'T HAVE THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST THERE TO SAY WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO BY LIKE, LITERAL PARAMETERS SET BY LAW. 
          SO IT WAS JUST A RECOMMENDATION LIKE, HEY, THIS GUY USED TO BE ON OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, OR THEY'RE FROM ANOTHER CITY, BUT THEY LIVE IN HUBER HEIGHTS AND THEY'RE NO LONGER, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD BE ACTIVE POLICE AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT OUR ACTIVE POLICE. 
          SO, SO WE HAD, UH, WHITE, BLACK, AND I WANNA SAY ASIAN. 
          SAY AGAIN. 
          NUMBER ONE IS WHAT? WHITE, BLACK AND ASIAN AND THAT. 
          SO THIS SAYS THAT THEY HAVE, THERE'S TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO THEY STILL HAVE TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH REGULAR APPLICATION AND INTERVIEW PROCESS. 
          I GET THE APPLICATION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          OR APPLICATION WE COMPLETED. 
          YEAH, I THINK WE CAN, I THINK IT'S ONLINE. 
          I THINK WE, WE CAN JUST DIRECT THEM, UM, ON FROM, UH, CITY. 
          MM-HMM. 
           ONLINE. 
          ONLINE. 
          SO THEN WHAT IS THE PROCESS OF ONCE WE'VE RECEIVED APPLICATIONS, SAME APPLICATION MANAGER. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S THE SAME APPLICATION, LIKE THE SAME INTERVIEW PROCESS THAT WE ALL WENT THROUGH. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT THE CITY MANAGER DID THAT. 
          I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO CHOOSE TO RECOMMEND. 
          WHAT ARE, WHAT'S THE SCALE FOR THAT? WHAT, FOR THE CITY MANAGER WAS THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND AND LEGAL BACKGROUND? TWO DIFFERENT YOU MEAN OVERALL? YEAH. 
          WELL THEY, IT'S THE RECOMMENDATIONS ALL COME FROM THE CITY MANAGER TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          THAT'S WHY IT'S JUST WRITTEN LIKE THAT. 
          IT'S NOT THAT WE MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION, IT COMES FROM THE CITY. 
          THAT'S JUST THE LANGUAGE USED AFTER YOU APPLY. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY GO THROUGH, THEY SET THE CITY SETS THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, THE CITY INTERVIEWS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IT SAYS, I SAY THIS PERSON. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, SO LIKE THAT'S, IT'S JUST THE, IT'S NOT A, THEY'RE DECIDING THE PEOPLE, IT'S JUST THEY MAKE THE FORMAL RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT THEY GO THROUGH THE INTERVIEW PROCESS. 
          YES. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          LIKE, SO WHAT ARE THE CRITERIA FOR THE INTERVIEW? I, I THINK OF YOU MEAN FOR POLICE OR LIKE FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS GIVEN? SO LIKE, NO, YOU MEAN LIKE WHO'S THE PANEL? NO, I MEAN, WHAT ARE THE QUESTIONS? WHAT'S THE SCALE TO DETERMINE WHO DO YOU UNDERSTAND SAYING LIKE, INTERVIEW QUESTIONS, INTERVIEW, LIKE WHO? UM, I WOULD THINK IT'S, I WOULD THINK IT'S THE SAME WHO'S ON THE PANEL. 
          YEAH. 
          ALL OF THAT INTERVIEW PROCESS IS WHAT I'M ASKING. 
          SO I DON'T, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE LIKE SOMEONE FROM HR, TONY, UM, PROBABLY ONE OF YOU ALL FROM, UH, THE COMMISSION. 
          AND THEN I DON'T KNOW MYSELF MAYBE LIKE, JUST TO LIKE GUESS, BUT I COULD ASK TONY WHO WOULD ACTUALLY SIT IN ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS IF WE HAD ONE. 
          AND THEN QUESTIONS I AGAIN, JUST AS JUST A THOUGHT, I WOULD FIGURE IT'D BE JUST LIKE, UM, THE QUESTIONS THAT TONY ASKED WHEN YOU ALL, UM, APPLY TO BE ON THE, THE COMMISSION. 
          BUT I WILL ASK HIM AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          AND ANTONIO, I HAD THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE ASKED FOR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS 
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ARE NOT THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT SHOULD BE ASKED FOR THE UNIVERSITY COMMISSION OR THE CCRP. 
          DID HE REPLY BACK TO YOU? OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HAVE A MIC ON. 
          UM, NO, WE'VE HAD THAT, WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION PREVIOUSLY IN PREVIOUS YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHEN, JUST A BIT OF HISTORY. 
          SORRY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE COMMISSION, THE COMMISSION CAME UP WITH THE FOUNDERS CAME UP WITH QUESTIONS THAT WE WERE ASKING INITIALLY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , BECAUSE THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO D DIVERSITY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          SO INSTEAD OF THE GENERIC QUESTIONS THAT WE USE FOR ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MM-HMM. 
           BECAUSE IT DOES NOT WEED OUT ANY, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          THIS IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF COMMISSION. 
          I GOT YOU. 
          IS WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          SO THE SAME THING GOES FOR ALL OF OUR VACANCIES. 
          SO WHAT WE'VE DONE, AND TONY KNOWS THIS, WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE IS WE HAVE KIND OF SOME QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK OKAY. 
          AND WE HAVE REPRESENTATION WHEN WE HAVE AN OPENING. 
          WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE INTERVIEWS YEAH. 
          FOR OUR COMMISSION. 
          AND WE HAVE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE YEP. 
          THAT, THAT IS STILL HAPPENING WITH THE CCRB. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, COULD YOU FORWARD ME THOSE QUESTIONS BY CHANCE? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          . 
          UM, I, I HAVE, WE HAVE SOMEWHERE YOU HAVE THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          I FOUND IT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO I DON'T I HAVE IT. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T LIKE, I MEAN, YES, THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          IT'S INTERESTING THAT THIS HASN'T COME UP. 
          I MEAN, WE'VE, THIS, THIS WAS WHEN IT WAS SIGNED INTO LEGISLATION LAST YEAR. 
          IT'S JUST THAT WE HAVE NEVER BROUGHT UP THE QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED IN THE INTERVIEW PROCESS. 
          WE WENT THROUGH EVERY OTHER PART OF THAT WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB FOR SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          WHY AM I TRYING TO LOG INTO MY WORK? SO, ARE WE OKAY WITH MOVING ALONG? ARE WE OKAY WITH MOVING ALONG? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I, BEFORE YOU DO, UM, HAD, I MEAN, IS THERE ANY THOUGHTS OF CHANGING THE SEATS AND THE LANGUAGE? I DON'T KNOW IF WE GOT TO ANY EDITS THAT YOU GUYS WERE LOOKING TO. 
          HOPEFULLY MAY, I MEAN, CAN YOU CHANGE IT AFTER IT'S SIGNED LEGISLATION? I GUESS THAT'S A QUESTION I'LL ASK TONY. 
          AND THEN IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS CAN DO. 
          UM, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF US ARE FEELING LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND IT'S SIGNED LEGISLATION. 
          I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE HARDER TO CHANGE IT NOW THAN, THAN TO NOT. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO, TO GET THESE SEATS FILLED. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND IF THAT'S MORE ON US THAN IT IS ON YOU. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT IS. 
          YOU KNOW? UM, IT, IT LITERALLY IS WHAT IT IS. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT. 
          UM, THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE. 
          IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, MARK IT AND GET IT OUT THERE. 
          THERE WAS THE, IT WAS WHOO OR WDTN. 
          THERE WAS A STO, UH, WHERE ALL OF THE VACANT SEATS WERE, UM, LISTED. 
          MM-HMM. 
           FOR COOPER HEIGHTS. 
          I THOUGHT THAT WAS HELPFUL. 
          IF THEY COULD JUST KEEP DOING THAT. 
          . 
          UM, OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE, UM, SO I WILL SAY OUR, THE COMMISSION HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME, THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME CREATING THIS PROCESS. 
          THIS CCRB, UM, TARA, ERIC, AND ERIC AND WHO ELSE? ERIC. 
          THAT WAS IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WAS IT. 
          MEETING WITH CHIEF, THE POLICE CHIEF ONGOING, HAVING DISCUSSIONS KIND OF BACK AND FORTH. 
          SO THIS IS IMPORTANT. 
          THIS WAS A HUGE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE DID. 
          YEAH. 
          FOR OUR COMMISSION. 
          AND IT WAS ALSO A ASK FROM THE NAACP AS PART OF THEIR EIGHT POINT INITIATIVE. 
          THIS IS BIG. 
          WE NEED TO FOCUS OUR TIME, ENERGY AND ATTENTION ON FILLING, FINDING PEOPLE TO FILL THESE SEATS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I'M ASKING EVERYONE TO LOOK AT THIS. 
          WE, AND THAT'S WHY TARA HAD IT INCLUDED, IS SO WE COULD ALL SEE THE RESOLUTION, WHAT'S NEEDED, AND WE CAN START RECRUITING. 
          WE'RE ALL AT ON THIS DIETS OUR RECRUITERS AS OF NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE RECRUITERS. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA GO OUT, WE'RE GONNA FIND SOME QUALIFIED PEOPLE  TO APPLY FOR OUR OPEN SEATS. 
          WE ALSO HAVE A SEAT OPEN ON THE COMMISSION. 
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UM, CARLA IS NOT RENEWING. 
          UM, SO THAT SEAT IS ALSO OPEN AS WELL. 
          I BELIEVE CARLA JUST LEFT. 
          WE HAVE AN OPEN SEAT ON OUR COMMISSION AS WELL. 
          CARLA IS NOT RENEWING HER SEAT RIGHT AT THE END OF THE YEAR, SO WE GOTTA SEE ABOUT GETTING HER SEAT FILLED AS WELL. 
          UM, CONSIDERING OUR LEGISLATION AND FOCUS WHEN RECRUITING PEOPLE TO FILL THE SEATS AS WELL. 
          UH, MLK DAY UPDATES. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO SHARE? WE'RE WORKING ON IT. 
          UM, YEAH, WE'RE WORKING ON IT. 
          WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE SCHOOL. 
          WE CAN USE THE, THE, UM, C WELL, WHERE WE LANDED WAS WE WOULD USE THE CAFETERIA FOR KIND OF A MEET AND GREET BREAKFAST AND THEN DO THE PROGRAM ACROSS THE WAY AT THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. 
          SO NOW WE JUST NEED TO SUBMIT, UM, SUBMIT WHAT WE NEED AND WE HAVE TO PAY THE CITY AND FOR THE STAFF BECAUSE IT'S A DAY OFF. 
          THEY ALSO NEED, JEFFREY, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF I SENT AN EMAIL TO YOU YET. 
          I HAVE NOT, BUT THEY JUST NEED RECORD OF OUR INSURANCE. 
          INSURANCE. 
          YEP. 
          WHICH THEY SHOULD ALREADY HAVE IN THE SYSTEM. 
          I'M WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THEM. 
          THEY SHOULD ALREADY HAVE ALL, THEY SHOULD ALREADY HAVE THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S YEAR BY YEAR, BUT IT PROBABLY IS. 
          THAT'S WHAT, BUT IT HASN'T EVEN BEEN A YEAR. 
          SO THAT'S MY LAST MESSAGE TO THEM IS IT HASN'T BEEN A YEAR TO, WE STILL THROUGH THAT PROCESS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I CAN DO THAT. 
          UM, CONTRACT PO I CAN HAVE THAT DONE. 
          I'M NOT FOR SURE IF THE, WELL, LEMME NOT GET AHEAD OF MYSELF. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST SEND ME THAT INVOICE. 
          UM, AND I CAN GET THAT ALL DONE. 
          SEND ME THE MAKEUP FOR, UM, UH, PROGRAM, AGENDA, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. 
          AND I CAN JUST KIND OF GET THAT DONE. 
          AND WE JUST GO TO THE EVENT. 
          WE JUST BE THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND THE OTHER THING IS WE NEED, UM, PROGRAMMING IDEAS. 
          IF YOU HAVE IDEAS, YOU KNOW, FROM LAST YEAR, THINGS THAT YOU THINK NEED TO BE CHANGED OR ADDED, PLEASE LET US KNOW. 
          THAT'S, UM, BY ROOM, TARA, MYSELF, AND JEAN. 
          SO ANY CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS, WE NEED SOME YOUTH INVOLVED. 
          JUDGE. 
          UM, I'LL ASK, UM, LIKE THAT AGENDA, DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE LIKE A DRAFT AGENDA ALREADY OR LIKE, OR IS THAT STILL LIKE IN THE WORK PROGRAM? YEAH. 
          NO. 
          NO. 
          OH, I'M LIKE, I'M NOT RUSHING. 
          I'M JUST ASKING. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S COOL. 
          LIKE, DO YOU GUYS PLAN ON, UM, A WALK AT ALL? NO. 
          OKAY, COOL. 
          SO WE'LL STILL DO THIS WAS, THAT WAS THE LAST DISCUSSION, WAS THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE BREAKFAST BE GREET MM-HMM. 
           OUR WALK IS GONNA BE TO WALK ACROSS THE STREET. 
          YEP. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
           TO THE PERFORMING ARTS ART CENTER. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S JUST A LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE WITH PEOPLE WALKING AND THEN WALKING BACK. 
          YOU GOT AFTERWARDS YOU GOT AN IDEA OF LIKE WHAT YOU GUYS WANT TO EAT OR LIKE TO HAVE LIKE DONUTS OR, YEAH, IT WOULD BE LIKE MORE OF A CONTINENTAL BREAKFAST, NOT A FULL GLUTEN FREE FRIENDLY BREAKFAST. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR SHINY. 
          SO ARE WE LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM LAST YEAR IN TERMS OF THE PROGRAM? I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO, AND I THINK I'VE SAID THIS LIKE EVERY YEAR, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO DO, UM, SOMETHING MORE FOCUSED ON LIKE THE CHILDREN'S MARCH IN SELMA. 
          UM, THAT WAS KIND OF THE CATALYST FOR THE, UM, BREAK IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT DOWN THERE. 
          THAT THE, THE, THE PARENTS WERE ALL GETTING ARRESTED AND LOSING THEIR JOBS. 
          SO THE CHILDREN WERE THE ONES THAT WERE, UM, PROTESTING. 
          UM, AND THEN IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE LINK WITH YOU, UM, THERE'S JUST SOME PRETTY IMPACTFUL MATERIALS AVAILABLE WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT THE CHILDREN'S MARCHES. 
          UM, AND IT'S A, IT'S A LENS OF THAT MOVEMENT THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY OR HAVE LIMITED, UM, 
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EDUCATION ON OR, OR UNDERSTANDING OF, OF HOW THAT WENT DOWN. 
          SO THAT WOULD JUST BE MY PERSONAL RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TRY TO LOOK AT SOME EDUCATION OR PROGRAMMING AROUND THE CHILDREN'S MARCH THIS YEAR. 
          WE HAVE ANY IDEAS ABOUT LIKE, UM, GENERAL MARKETING FOR THIS? DEFINITELY NEED TO GET ON THAT FOR NEXT MONTH. 
          I DO. 
          SO, UM, I THINK HIS NAME IS TAJ FROM GOOD MORNING DAYTON. 
          LIKE, WE'VE ALWAYS THROWN THIS OUT THERE TO KIND OF GET ON THERE TO KIND OF BROADCAST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO OR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL DO. 
          SOME OF THE, LIKE WHAT THE COMMISSION DOES. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S ALWAYS LIKE A GOOD PLUG EVEN FOR LIKE MLK DAY, WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT WE'RE DOING, UH, AT THE SCHOOL, BUT ALSO LIKE, SHOOT, EVEN THE, UH, CULTURE OR THE ASSESSMENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE DEI NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          THAT'S ALWAYS LIKE A GOOD THING TOO TO KIND OF HOP ON THAT TOO. 
          GET IN FRONT OF A CAMERA, GET IN PEOPLE'S HOMES THAT WAY TO KIND OF TELL 'EM, HEY, WHAT THE COMMISSION IS, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING, WHAT THE ASSESSMENT IS. 
          I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE IDEA OF PICKING SOME PEOPLE TO GET IN FRONT OF A CAMERA AND TALK FOR A COUPLE MINUTES. 
          UM, BUT I CAN ALWAYS MAKE THAT CALL AND THAT CONTACT AND GET YOU GUYS IN THERE TO KIND OF MAKE THAT PUSH. 
          RIGHT. 
          TO GET YOU IN FRONT OF PEOPLE. 
          IT MIGHT NOT BE ME, BUT SOMEBODY . 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND MAYBE, UM, I BELIEVE EVERY YEAR THEY HAVE A THEME. 
          MM-HMM. 
           A NATIONAL THEME FOR MLK DAY. 
          AND I JUST DID A BRIEF GOOGLE SEARCH JUST TO, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT WHAT IT IS OR KNOW WHAT IT'S, SO I SEE THAT THE THEME FOR 2025 IS DON'T GIVE UP ON THE DREAM. 
          AND THIS IS IN CORRELATION OF ACKNOWLEDGING THE 60TH ANNIVERSARY OF, UM, DR. 
          KING'S SPEECH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          I HAVE A DREAM SPEECH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I GUESS THE TASK GROUP. 
          ARE WE STILL CALLING? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          THESE TASK GROUPS CAN KEEP IN MIND WHEN CONTINUING TO FINALIZE THE PROGRAM. 
          I KNOW THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          OKAY. 
          I DIDN'T EITHER. 
          LITERALLY IN THE NEWS TO ME. 
          THAT'S AWESOME. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A THEME EVERY YEAR. 
          GOOD TO KNOW. 
          UM, HOT TOPIC CONVERSATION COMING UP NEXT. 
          UH, WE NEED TO SET A DATE FOR THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL. 
          ARE WE DONE WITH THE ? ANYTHING ELSE FOR MLK? 'CAUSE I JUST WENT RIGHT OVER THAT. 
          UM, I DON'T ENTIRELY KNOW HOW TO START THIS CONVERSATION, BUT WE NEED TO SET A DATE. 
          SO WEEKENDS STARTING IN MAY, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FIRST. 
          THAT DOESN'T MEAN I THINK EVERY YEAR, UH, FIRST WEEKEND OF MAY, THAT UH, DFI ORGANIZING MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, EVERY, EVERY YEAR. 
          I THINK THIS YEAR WILL BE MAY OF SECOND, WHICH IS DAY. 
          IT'S GOING FOR THREE DAYS. 
          START ON FRIDAY MIDDAY, HALF DAY SATURDAY, FULL DAY AND SUNDAY HALF DAY. 
          SO FOR THE CULTURAL AFFAIR? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. 
          SO MAZE OUT, I MEAN, FIRST WEEK. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS OPINIONS ABOUT DOING ANOTHER ONE. 
          YOU KNOW, IF THE CULTURAL AFFAIRS IN MAY. 
          DO WE REALLY WANNA ADD OURS IN AS WELL? THAT'S AN OPTION. 
          I MEAN, BUT MEMORIAL DAY IS THE 26TH. 
          THAT'S A HOLIDAY WEEKEND. 
          UM, THERE'S ALREADY LOTS GOING ON. 
          ALWAYS. 
          YEAH. 
          OR LOOKING INTO EARLY JUNE, BUT THEN WE'VE SET, WE SET JUNETEENTH FOR THE 15TH AND WE WERE TRYING NOT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, BACK TO BACK TO BACK 
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EVENTS FOR THE CITY. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS OPINIONS ABOUT JULY. 
          I FEEL LIKE JULY IS SO UNGODLY HOT FOR A FESTIVAL. 
          SEPTEMBER, SAME THING. 
          WEEK FOR AUGUST WEEK. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN THAT GETS US TO SEPTEMBER. 
          UM, LAST WEEK, LAST WEEKEND. 
          YEAH. 
          WHEN IS, UH, 27TH? WHERE WAS LABOR DAY? UH, SEPTEMBER 2ND. 
          THIS, UH, THIS CURRENT YEAR. 
          FIRST. 
          FIRST OF NEXT YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          OF NEXT YEAR. 
          SO THAT'S AN OPTION THAT WE COULD DO. 
          SEPTEMBER 6TH IS A SATURDAY. 
          SEPTEMBER 13TH. 
          UM,  SEPTEMBER 20TH AND SEPTEMBER 27TH ARE ALL SATURDAYS THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY FAIR OR SOMETHING OR CITY EVENTS OR NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF SOMETHING GOING ON. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN SEPTEMBER AROUND? I'M NOT. 
          I'D HAVE TO TALK TO SARAH ABOUT THAT, BUT I DON'T, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING. 
          I THINK THAT'S WHEN THE MERRIVILLE FESTIVAL USED TO BE. 
          I, I DON'T THINK, YEAH, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT. 
          DOING IT ANYMORE. 
          WHAT ABOUT THE OHIO RENAISSANCE FESTIVAL? IS THAT HELD? THAT'S EVERY WEEKEND THOUGH, IN THE FALL. 
          LIKE THAT. 
          SO THAT'S LATER SUMMER. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S LIKE RIGHT NOW. 
          WELL, LIKE LAST MONTH. 
          I DON'T THINK THE RENAISSANCE FESTIVAL IS AS BIG AS A DEAL AS THE, THE YELLOW SPRINGS STREET FAIR WAS THE SAME DAY AS THE ONE THIS YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          OUR ORIGINAL DATE WAS THE AIR FORCE SHOW. 
          SO I, I MEAN, AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT WORKING AGAINST HUGE, UH, HUGE CITY EVENTS, I, I THINK WE'RE SAFE ISH. 
          UM, UM, OCTOBER FEST IS IN SEPTEMBER. 
          WHEN IT'S OCTOBER 1ST. 
          IT'S USUALLY LIKE THE LAST WEEK OF SEPTEMBER. 
          BEGINNING OF, I MEAN, THERE'S PROBABLY ALWAYS GOING TO BE YEAH. 
          SOMETHING I, I'M PRETTY COMFORTABLE IN SEPTEMBER. 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE FEELINGS, OPINIONS, CONFLICTS, OW. 
          PULLING MY OWN HAIR. 
          UM, I WOULD SAY FOR ME IN SEPTEMBER, THE LAST WEEK WOULD NOT WORK FOR ME. 
          OKAY. 
          DUE TO WORK OBLIGATIONS AT THE PRESENT TIME. 
          WHAT ABOUT THE SIXTH OR 13TH? ANYBODY HAVE FEELINGS? I AM OKAY FOR WHOLE, UH, SEPTEMBER, IF YOU GUYS AGREE, WE CAN DO IT THE HOLIDAY WEEK. 
          SEPTEMBER THE HOLIDAYS, THE WEEK BEFORE. 
          WEEKEND BEFORE LAST WEEK. 
          LAST WEEKEND INTO AUGUST. 
          BUT IT IS RIGHT AFTER A HOLIDAY WEEK. 
          I MEAN, MAYBE THE 13TH IS PROBABLY BETTER. 
          UM, YEAH, I FEEL LIKE 9, 9 13. 
          HOW ARE WE FEELING ABOUT NINE 13 AS I'M THROWING OUT ARBITRARY DATES. 
          YOU SAID SEPTEMBER IS BAD FOR YOU. 
          SEPTEMBER IS BAD. 
          TORY, YOU NO, IT IS GOOD. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN IT'S SOCCER SEASON, . 
          I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING. 
          IT'S ALWAYS SOCCER SEASON, . 
          IT'S ALWAYS, ALWAYS SOMETHING. 
          THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE BLOWING UP MY WATCH ABOUT RIGHT NOW. 
          LIKE, IT'S WINTER, SO SEPTEMBER. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN IT'S, IT'S, IT IS WHAT IT IS FOR ME. 
          I'M NEVER NOT BUSY. 
          LIKE THIS IS THE ONLY TIME OF YEAR WHERE I'M NOT BUSY IS RIGHT NOW. 
          ROCK, PAPER, SCISSORS. 
          HOW ARE WE GONNA DECIDE THIS FLIP COIN? LET'S GO . 
          WHAT'S THE OPTIONS? 13. 
          13. 
          THERE'S NO COMPETING, THERE'S NOT A BUNCH OF COMPETING STUFF BEFORE WE LAND. 
          WHICH, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE DATES? WAS IT JUST THE 13TH OR WAS IT THAT WHOLE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER? WE WERE LOOKING AT AVOIDING THE FIRST WEEK BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO LAST WEEK BECAUSE SECOND AND THIRD WEEK. 
          AND AVOIDING LAST WEEK BECAUSE MS. SHENA GONNA BE HERE SECOND AND THIRD. 
          OKAY. 
          DO YOU MEAN HUBBERT HEIGHTS EVENTS OR EVENTS AT LARGE? 'CAUSE WE CAN'T WAIT TOO MUCH LONGER TO SET THIS DATE. 
          RIGHT. 
          I'M JUST SAYING ANY BIG STEPS, THEY 
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WANT THOSE DATES THAT WE TO MM-HMM. 
          . 
          I SEE NOTHING. 
          JUST A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH. 
          I DON'T SEE ANYTHING. 
          I MEAN THE BIG ONE WAS, WHAT DID I SAY OCTOBER 1ST? THAT IS THE LAST WEEKEND IN SEPTEMBER. 
          THAT'S ALWAYS THE LAST WEEK. 
          YEAH. 
          SEPTEMBER. 
          I'VE DONE THAT ONE. 
          THAT'S THE, FOR MY BIRTHDAY A COUPLE TIMES. 
          . 
          UM, AND THEN WHEN'S THE CELTIC FEST? JULY. 
          JULY. 
          IT WAS MIDDLE OF SUMMER. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE WE'D BE GOOD EITHER DOING THE 13TH OR THE 20TH OR A SIX. 
          I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A TAKE YOUR PICK. 
          UM, NO COMMEMORATIONS NINE 11 COMMEMORATIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE'S NOTHING BIG THAT HAPPENS AROUND THERE. 
          PROBABLY LATER IN THE MONTH. 
          IT DOES GET A LITTLE COOLER. 
          RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. 
          THIS YEAR DIDN'T PROVE TO BE THAT THAT REALLY MATTERS. 
          I SEE. 
          ANYTHING, I MEAN, IF WE WENT FOR THE 20TH RIGHT? THAT WHAT WAS WRONG WITH MAY? WHAT, WHATS WRONG WITH MAY? THE CULTURAL AFFAIRS IN MAY, WHICH, WHICH THE WHOLE MONTH, THE FIRST WEEKEND. 
          BUT THAT'S LIKE THE BIG, YOU KNOW, SAME-ISH EVENT THAT WE PUT ON IS, IS FOR THREE DAYS. 
          SAME-ISH AS THE CULTURAL AFFAIR. 
          SO IT WOULD BE LIKE GO TO DAYTON'S CULTURAL AFFAIR TWO WEEKS LATER, HUBER'S DOING THE SAME THING. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM. 
          PLUS, YOU KNOW, NOT STEP ON OTHER PEOPLE'S STANDING EVENTS. 
          AND YOU SAID THEIRS IS THE FIRST WEEK OF MAY? YES. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MA'AM? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          IT'S WEEKEND THAT YOU SAID IT'S THREE DAYS. 
          FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY. 
          I MEAN, WHO'S OTHER WEEKENDS IN MAY. 
          RIGHT? THAT'S NOT THE ONLY WEEKEND IN MAY, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          BUT THE LAST WEEKEND IS MEMORIAL DAY, AND THAT'S A HOLIDAY WEEKEND IN MAY. 
          AND THEN WE'RE GETTING INTO OUR JUNE EVENTS. 
          SO IT, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OTHER WEEKENDS IN MAY. 
          THERE REALLY WOULD ONLY BE, WELL YOU WOULD HAVE THE 10TH AND THE 17TH. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND YOU GOT 11TH IS MOTHER'S DAY. 
          THE FIRST, THE SECOND, THIRD AND FOURTH IS CULTURAL AFFAIR. 
          I DON'T CARE ABOUT, I MEAN, I DON'T CARE, BUT WE HAVE NO MOTHER'S DAY. 
          BUT A LOT MORE PEOPLE DO STUFF FOR MOTHER'S DAY. 
          MOTHER'S DAY'S A MUCH BIGGER DAMN DEAL. 
          FATHER'S DAY. 
          AND I TRIED TO GET IT OFF OF THAT DAY TOO. 
          , I MEAN THAT LITERALLY ONLY LEAVES THE WEEK, THE 17TH. 
          'CAUSE THE WEEKEND AFTER. 
          THAT'S MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO YOU GOT THE 10TH AND THE 17TH. 
          SO IF WE HAVE FOUR OPTIONS. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT THE IS THE WEEKEND RIGHT AFTER THE CULTURAL AFFAIR. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY'RE JUST STEPPING ON THEIR EVENT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU GOT THE 17TH OF MAY OR EITHER THE 13TH OF SEPTEMBER. 
          IS THAT, I'M JUST, JUST TRYING TO GET WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, 17TH MAY, WELL WHY JUST THE 13TH OF SEPTEMBER? THE FIRST WEEKEND IS LABOR DAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THEN THE SIXTH KIND OF BECOMES AN EXTENSION OF THE HOLIDAY WEEK. 
          OH, RIGHT. 
          SO WE COULD THE 13TH OR THE 20TH. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          IT'S JUST THE LAST WEEK JEAN IS NOT AVAILABLE AND THERE'S OH YEAH. 
          LABOR DAY IS THE FIRST, AGAIN, THREE MONTH DIFFERENCE. 
          THREE AND A HALF MONTH DIFFERENCE FOR PLANNING. 
          SIX MONTHS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE HISPANIC HERITAGE FESTIVAL IS IN SEPTEMBER. 
          SEPTEMBER THIS YEAR WAS ON SEPTEMBER 21ST. 
          SEPTEMBER. 
          OH YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S THE BIG ONE'S. 
          MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER TO THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER IS UH, NATIONAL HOSPITAL, NOT HERE. 
          YEAH, IT STARTS THE 15TH. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT OHIO RENAISSANCE FESTIVAL. 
          WELL, I SEE 8:00 PM ON SEPTEMBER 20TH. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S WHEN THIS IS GONNA 
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START. 
          THAT'S WHAT I SEE FOR 2025. 
          YES. 
          I RIGHT SAY THAT'S THE YEAR BEFORE THE A BETTER BED THEN. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU DO THAT. 
          I KNOW YOU, I KNOW YOU TALKING. 
          WHO YOU TALKING TO TONIGHT? END OF AINT YOUR WIFE? EXACTLY. 
          OH YEAH. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          IT STARTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MONTH, ISN'T IT? PROBABLY ON THE 20TH. 
          I BE YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          IT WAS THE 21ST LAST THAT BEEN. 
          OKAY. 
          I BET YOU HERE THE SECOND. 
          SO, UM, THIS WAS THE 13TH, SO THEN THE SECOND WEEK IS GONNA BE THE BEST BETWEEN, SO YEAH, I GUESS WE'RE NARROWING IT DOWN TO JUST NINE, 13. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA START THE 15TH OF SEPTEMBER THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH. 
          IT'S BACK HERITAGE MONTH. 
          THE SECOND THAT WOULD SENSE IS THAT 13 MM-HMM. 
           WHAT WAS THE SECOND WEEK THIS YEAR? YEAH, IT'S THE SECOND WEEK. 
          13 MIGHT BE A GOOD, WELL IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE ONE OF THOSE, BUT YOU'D PROBABLY BE BETTER OFF THE 20TH. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT. 
          YOU COULD MAKE A FESTIVAL ABOUT ANYTHING. 
          I GUESS. 
          SO, UH, LOOKS LIKE THIS HALF OF THE GROUP HAS LANDED ON THE 13TH. 
          HAVE YOU GUYS CONFERRED ON THAT HALF OF THE GROUP ON IF THE 13TH IS GOING TO WORK? WELL, I DON'T WANT TO STOP IT. 
          I PROBABLY WON'T BE THERE ON THE 13TH, BUT I MEAN, EVERYBODY ELSE JUST NEED TO PLAN. 
          THAT'LL PROBABLY BE CENTRAL STATE'S HOMECOMING THAT WEEKEND. 
          THEY NORMALLY DO THE SECOND, IS THAT THE HOMECOMING WEEKEND? YEAH. 
          WELL THAT'S IMPORTANT TO BRING UP. 
          I'M I'M JUST SAYING NOT JUST FOR YOU, BUT THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          THAT'S WHY I WHOLE, WHY I SAID THAT'S, THAT'LL BE THERE. 
          SO YOU GUYS HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          SO WELL, UH, WAIT A MINUTE. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE IT SCHEDULED YET, BUT IT'LL BE, UH, THEY TYPICALLY DO THE SECOND WEEKEND. 
          THAT'S THE PROBLEM. 
          THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH SEPTEMBER IS THE HOMECOMINGS. 
          OH YEAH. 
          NO COLLEGES. 
          YEAH. 
          WE CAN'T PLAN AROUND EVERY EVENT IN DAYTON AND EVERY COLLEGE IN DAYTON, WE HAVE TO PICK A DATE. 
          I MEAN, THE 20TH IS STILL ON THE TABLE. 
          NOBODY'S, THERE'S NO DRAWBACK AS OF RIGHT NOW ON THAT HOMECOMING. 
          THAT'S A BIG HOMECOMING. 
          CENTRAL STATE. 
          WE CAN DO THE 20TH, BUT THEN IT'S, I DON'T HAVE ANY OPINION ABOUT THAT AT ALL. 
          BUT THAT IS THAT WHEN THE HISPANIC FESTIVAL IS YEAH. 
          WELL THE, WELL, ARE THERE ANY EVENTS ON THE 20TH FOR HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH THAT WE YEAH, THEY HAVE THE FESTIVAL NOW. 
          I'M ONLY GUESSING THIS YEAR. 
          IT WAS ON THE 21ST. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S THAT WEEKEND THEY FOLLOW ACCORDANCE TO, RIGHT. 
          'CAUSE THE FIRST DAY OF HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH IS THAT MONDAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE. 
          SO MY MAY DATES IS LOOKING BETTER AND BETTER. 
           WHAT DATES MOTHER'S DAY, MY MAY DATES ARE LOOKING BETTER AND BETTER. 
          WHAT WAS THE PROBLEM WITH JUNE? THE 1ST OF JUNE? IT WAS TOO MANY. 
          THAT IS JUNE EVENTS. 
          YEAH. 
          1ST OF JUNE THE BIG, AND WE HAD JUNETEENTH THAT MONTH, RIGHT? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO, AND MEMORIAL DAY IS THE WEEKEND BEFORE. 
          SO JUNE 1ST IS THAT SAME HOLIDAY WEEK WE'RE FALLING INTO I THE 31ST. 
          I MEAN, YOU CAN THINK ABOUT HAVING MULTICULTURAL ON THE 14TH AND GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL WAY. 
          THOSE THINGS WERE SET UP BACK TO BACK, BUT THEY WERE TWO DIFFERENT WEEKENDS. 
          OH, WERE THEY, THEY WERE NEVER THE SAME WEEKEND. 
          OH, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN THE 15TH AND THE 21ST. 
          WELL, THAT WILL BE UP AGAINST THE AIR SHOW AGAIN, SO IT DOESN'T YEAH. 
          AND THEN 4TH OF JULY, COZY BATTLE. 
          WELL, I MEAN, I ONLY DID TWO NOW. 
          I'VE DONE TWO NOW, BUT THEY'VE BEEN VERY HECTIC. 
          , YOU KNOW, BACK TO BACK LIKE THAT, WHEN DOES THE DAY HAVE TO BE LIKE LOCKED, LOCKED IN? SO I TALKED TO, WELL, SARAH SAID SOMETHING TO ME I THINK SOMETIME THIS WEEK ABOUT IF YOU GUYS HAD A DATE. 
          SO I THINK SHE WAS HOPING FOR SOMETHING SOON. 
          CITY COUNCIL WAS PRETTY INTENT ON US GETTING THAT DATE TO THEM TOO. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IF I MAY ASK THE QUESTION, HOW WAS THE MULTICULTURAL EVENT THIS YEAR WITH IT BEING HELD IN OCTOBER? WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, A GOOD TIME, NOT A GOOD TIME? WHAT WAS THE FEEDBACK FROM THAT? LIKE? I MEAN, I WAS, 
          [02:05:01]
I WAS THERE LIKE TOWARDS LIKE IN THE AFTERNOON OF IT. 
          I, I PERSONALLY THOUGHT IT WAS A, LIKE, I THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD. 
          UM, I THINK WE HAD MAYBE 500 PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP. 
          UM, I, I DIDN'T NECESSARILY HEAR ANYBODY SAY ANYTHING BAD IN REGARDS TO IT, BUT THE WEATHER WAS NICE. 
          OKAY. 
          I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T GET ANY LIKE, NEGATIVE COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK IN COMPARISON TO WHEN WE WOULD NORMALLY HAVE IT, THE, UM, ATTENDANCE. 
          I, I THINK THE ONLY PROBLEM THAT WE HAD WAS LIKE THE VERY LAST, UM, PERFORMER THAT WE HAD. 
          LIKE, IT WAS LIKE KIND OF DARK BY LIKE SEVEN O'CLOCK. 
          SO LIGHTING WAS LIKE A REAL BAD THING FOR US. 
          OH YES. 
          UM, BUT IF LIKE, SO WE KNOW ABOUT LIGHTING, RIGHT? SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT A CONCERN. 
          WE'VE ALREADY GOT THAT KIND OF SITUATED. 
          WE KNOW WE NEED LIGHTING IF WE WANT TO HAVE IT IN SEPTEMBER. 
          WE'VE NEVER HAD OUR EVENT TILL NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, SO WE SHOULDN'T RUN INTO THE LIGHT PROBLEM. 
          OUR EVENT WAS HISTORICALLY 12 TO SIX MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, SO YEAH, I THINK IT WAS THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE ISSUE FOR US. 
          THINK IT WAS LONGER. 
          I THINK IT STARTED, YEAH, I THINK IT STARTED LIKE 12 TO NINE. 
          NINE, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE WORLD AFFAIR IS HELD IN MAY OR APRIL? I'M SORRY, FIRST WEEK IN MAY. 
          MAY, MAY, OKAY. 
          UM, I BELIEVE, AND I JUST DID ANOTHER SEARCH ON GOOGLE . 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO APRIL IS DIVERSITY MONTH, SO I'M NOT SURE. 
          IT WOULD JUST BE A THOUGHT TO HAVE IT THEN, BUT IT'S GONNA BE PUSHING IT UP AND WE DON'T WANT TO REALLY HAVE IT THAT SOON. 
          IT COULD STILL BE SNOWING IN APRIL, UM,  AND IT COULD, YEAH, AND I'M, I MEAN, NOT NOW WITH GLOBAL WARMING, BUT , EXCUSE ME. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I HAVE FORGOT. 
          SO, UM, THE LAST FARMER'S MARKET, WE HAD, UH, FILIPINO HERITAGE, UM, MONTH AT THE FARMER'S MARKET. 
          THE LAST ONE, UM, UH, SPEAKING WITH THE, I WANNA SAY HE'S THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE SOCIETY. 
          UM, HE HAD A PRETTY BIG, LIKE, I DON'T WHAT YOU WANNA CALL IT, LIKE EVENT FOR IT BEING THE FARMER'S MARKET. 
          I THINK HE BROUGHT LIKE FIVE, SIX VENDORS PLUS A FOOD TRUCK PLUS A PERFORMANCE, UM, TO THAT FARMER'S MARKET, UM, IN OCTOBER. 
          AND THE ONLY WORD THAT I GOT FROM HIM AFTER THE EVENT WAS HE WAS LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING BIGGER COME NEXT YEAR. 
          UM, I DIDN'T, I DON'T THINK I GOT ANY LIKE, DATES FROM WHEN HE WAS LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HE WANTED TO KIND OF DO SEPARATELY. 
          UM, BUT I THINK HIM, HIM, LIKE HIM BEING A PART OF THE FILIPINO, UH, HERITAGE SOCIETY, UM, THEY'RE LOOKING TO KIND OF PARTICIPATE IN SOMETHING THAT WE DO IN HERE HEIGHTS. 
          UM, SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST LIKE A PAUSE AND TRY TO SEE, YOU KNOW, I, OKAY. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT DATES KINDA LOOK GOOD FOR THEM. 
          UM, AND I DON'T WANT TO KIND OF JUST BASE IT OFF A VENDOR BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HAS LIKE OBLIGATIONS AS WELL. 
          BUT I JUST SAW LIKE, WOW, HE WAS REALLY ADAMANT ABOUT DOING SOMETHING IN HUBERT HEIGHTS. 
          AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS BY HIMSELF OR IF HE WANTED TO BE A PART OF THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT, UM, YEAH, HE, HE HAD IT GOING AT A FARMER'S MARKET FOR A COUPLE HOURS, SO. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I WAS JUST CURIOUS. 
          AND I KNOW WE DEFINITELY NEED TO MOVE ON  WITH THIS AGENDA. 
          SO I FEEL LIKE AGAIN, LIKE WHAT, YOU KNOW, TARA JUST SAID, WHATEVER DATE WE CHOOSE, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME TYPE OF CONFLICT ANYWAY. 
          SO I AM IN AN AGREEMENT TO HAVE IT EITHER ON THE 13TH OR 20TH OF SEPTEMBER. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION OF COURSE FOR A FINAL DECISION. 
          WHAT WAS WRONG WITH AUGUST? IT'S 700,000 DEGREES IN AUGUST. 
          . 
          [02:10:04]
IT'S STILL AT THE SEPTEMBER TOO HOT MAYBE. 
          THAT'S YES. 
          125 DEGREES ALL OF AUGUST AND THE WORLD'S ON FIRE. 
          ALL RIGHT GUYS, IT'S ALMOST EIGHT 30. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I GO FOR SEPTEMBER 14TH IF WE NEED TO. 
          THAT WOULD BE MY, I GOT A MOTION. 
          YOU, YOUR MIC IS NOT ON. 
          ALRIGHT, LISTEN, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SELECT SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 13TH, 2025 TO BE THE DATE FOR OUR MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL. 
          DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? COULD YOU REPEAT THAT ONE MORE TIME? MOTION IS TO SET THE DATE TO JUNE 13TH, 2025 FOR THE SEPTEMBER. 
          WHAT DID I SAY? JUNE? JUNE. 
          OH MY GOD. 
          I THOUGHT I WAS, I'VE LOST MY MIND. 
          I, I DYSLEXIC. 
          TURNED THAT NINE UPSIDE DOWN, I GUESS. 
          UH, SEPTEMBER 13TH, 2025 FOR THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL. 
          UM, CAN YOU ADD A TIME ON THERE? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MATTERS. 
          12 TO, UH, 12 TO 6:00 PM I SECOND THAT MOTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BYRON VOTE PLEASE. 
          MS. TROTTER? YES. 
          MS. NEWBIE? YES. 
          MRS. STEVENSON. 
          YOU SAID SHE GOT A WHOLE NEW NAME. 
           STEVENS. 
          I THOUGHT YOU SAID STEVENSON. 
          THAT'S, OH, I PROBABLY DID MS. STEVENS ALL CRACKING UP. 
          YES. 
          MS. PURVIS. 
          YES. 
          MR. RICHARDSON. 
          NO. 
          MR. OWENS. 
          YES. 
          MR. AVIV. 
          YES. 
          SO CARRIED. 
          SEPTEMBER 13TH BYRUM. 
          UM, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO CO-CHAIR THE LEAD OF THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL, UM, WITH ME? YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO YOU'RE BOTH CHAIR, NOBODY'S, WE HADN'T SET IT, DID WE? WE DIDN'T SET THE LEAD FOR THAT LAST MONTH, DID WE? I DON'T THINK WE DID. 
          WE DIDN'T. 
          I JUST THOUGHT OKAY. 
          BECAUSE BYRON WAS GONNA DO IT LAST YEAR. 
          YEAH, WELL WE COULD CO-CHAIR IT OR BYRON YOU CHAIR AND I'LL HELP AS NEEDED. 
          YOU CHAIR. 
          I HELP . 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE CHAIR, WE CO-CHAIRS. 
          WE EQUAL BY 'EM. 
           TWO CHAIRS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THE REST OF THIS DONE IN 1520 TOPS. 
          UH, NEW BUSINESS, I JUST WANT TO SET A PROCESS FOR COMMISSION EVENT LEADS, UM, THAT CAN BE AGREED UPON AS A GROUP. 
          UM, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LEADS FOR THESE EVENTS, WE NEED TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS AND THE EXPECTATIONS FROM LEADS. 
          UM, IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE CONTINUE AS WE HAVE BEEN DOING EVERY OTHER YEAR, UM, TO PROVIDE CHECK-INS AT EVERY MEETING WHEN IT COMES TO THE EVENT PLANNING. 
          UM, THAT INVOLVES UPDATES ON VENDORS, YOU KNOW, PROJECT STATUS UPDATES, BUDGET UPDATES, AND, UM, TASKS NEEDED BY THE GROUP. 
          YOU KNOW, WHO NEEDS TO DO X, Y, AND Z. 
          THEY GO DO X, Y, AND Z AND THEN BRING IT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING. 
          UM, WE, WE'VE JUST HAD ALWAYS DONE THAT. 
          AND I HOPE IT IS OUR EXPECTATION THAT IT CONTINUES TO BE THAT WAY. 
          UM, THAT IF WE ARE THE PLANNING LEADS OR THE CO-CHAIRS OF THESE EVENTS, UM, THAT THERE IS ONGOING CHECK-INS WITH THE REST OF THE COMMISSION. 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? IS THIS SOMETHING WE NEED TO PUT ON RECORD? UM, OR CAN WE ALL HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING AS A GROUP OF NINE ADULTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO KEEP EACH 
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OTHER IN THE LOOP AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE EVENTS? OKIE DOKIE. 
          UM, WE ALREADY WENT OVER THE NEXT ONE INADVERTENTLY, WHICH WAS THE OPEN COMMISSION SEATS. 
          UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE POSTING, THE TIMELINE AND APPLICANT'S, I ASSUME WE DON'T HAVE ANY APPLICANT'S FOR CARLA'S SEAT YET. 
          I DON'T EVEN SURE IF THAT HAS BEEN, IT HAS BEEN PO POSTED 'CAUSE WE SAW IT AFTER THE FACT. 
          UM, AS ALWAYS, JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOLANDA, OR, OR STARTING IN JANUARY, COREY, UM, OR MYSELF ARE AVAILABLE TO SIT IN ON ANY OF THOSE APPLICANTS, UM, INTERVIEWS FOR THESE POSITIONS. 
          IT'D BE ONLY STRICTLY, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR, LIKE IS IT STRICTLY CHAIR VICE ERRITORY MEETINGS OR INTERVIEWS? IF IT SHOULD BE TO US FIRST, BUT IF LIKE MEAN WERE NOT AVAILABLE, THEN IT'S FINE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK TYPICALLY, I THINK THERE'S, TYPICALLY IT GETS SENT THROUGH TONY, TONY JUST TELLS ME THERE'S INTERVIEWS, BUT I'LL, I'LL LET TELL IT'S FALLEN A LOT OF THE TIME ON TUESDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS. 
          THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN ARE THOSE ARE DAYS THAT I JUST CAN'T BE INVOLVED AT ALL. 
          SO, UM, YEAH. 
          SO I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE US, BUT IF WE'RE AVAILABLE, I MEAN, BUT IT'S, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN MANY PEOPLE, ERIC'S DONE IT, CARLA'S DONE IT, JEAN'S DONE IT. 
          I, WE'VE ALL, I FEEL LIKE I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT HASN'T DONE IT, HONESTLY. 
          UM, SO WE HAD, IT WAS IBRAHIM THAT ASKED TO ADD, UM, EVENTS TARGETING SENIORS AND YOUTH, UM, SOME BRAINSTORMING STUFF. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO RESTART THE PROJECT, UM, THAT WE HAD WITH THE POLICE AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS. BUT SOMETHING ELSE I WAS THINKING OF TODAY, UM, KIND OF MAYBE IN, IN ERIC'S, NOT NECESSARILY WHEELHOUSE, BUT IN ALIGN WITH THESE THINGS. 
          UM, I WAS THINKING ABOUT TRYING TO MAYBE DO, UM, A PATHWAYS TO HOME OWNERSHIP, FINANCIAL LITERACY LIKE WE HAD DONE DURING THAT FIRST CULTURE WEEK, BUT MAKE IT LIKE A STANDING CLASS, LIKE A PATHWAYS TO HOME OWNERSHIP AND FINANCIAL LITERACY AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          AND MAYBE HOLD IT AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER OVER OFF OF POWELL AND KIND OF GET THAT AREA, UM, THAT IS FACING, UM, PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE THAN AVERAGE ECONOMIC DISADVANTAGE IN OUR AREA, UM, OVER THERE OFF POWELL ROAD. 
          SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I WANTED TO SAY OUT LOUD I WAS THINKING ABOUT TODAY. 
          UM, GIVEN THAT ABRAHAM'S NOT HERE, UM, WE CAN, UH, PUT THAT AS OUR PERSONAL HOMEWORK FOR THE NEXT MONTH. 
          UM, LET'S GET SOME IDEAS AND SOME BRAINSTORMING, UM, TO ACTUALLY CONNECT WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          THESE EVENTS ARE WONDERFUL. 
          UM, AND ALL THAT IT, IT IS JUST NOT GETTING TO OUR LEGISLATION AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN A POINT OF A LOT OF OUR FRUSTRATIONS, UM, ONGOING. 
          SO ERIC, UM, HAD JEFFREY PRINT OUR LEGISLATION. 
          THAT IS THE RESOLUTION, UH, NUMBER 2002 DASH R DASH 6 8 84. 
          THIS IS THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS USED TO CREATE THIS COMMISSION. 
          UM, SO WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING IDEAS AND THOUGHTS AND THINGS FOR EVENTS, UM, JUST KIND OF USE THIS AS THE LENS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING THROUGH IS, IS HOW ARE THESE EVENTS HITTING THIS LEGISLATION? UM, AND TARGETING FULL EXERCISE OF CIVIL RIGHTS FOR, FOR ALL MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          IT'LL BE DECEMBER, I SEE YOU AGAIN. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE TASK GROUPS. 
          MLK NEEDS TO MEET. 
          OH, MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL. 
          WHO WANTS TO BE IN THE TASK GROUP? I MEAN, EVERYBODY'S GONNA GET TASKS. 
          UM, YOU CAN PUT ME DOWN PLEASE. 
          WAS THAT YOU TOO, YOLANDA ? YEAH. 
          YOU CAN PUT MYSELF DOWN AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL GET IT TAKEN CARE OF. 
          UM, ANYTHING ELSE? EVEN LESS THAN 15 MINUTES. 
          LOOK AT THAT. 
          FOUR MINUTES. 
          WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE? SO WHAT DO YOU NEED WITH, WITH OUR LEGISLATION? YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AS I LOOK OVER THE THINGS WE, THE AGENDAS WE HAVE, AND THE REASON WHY I ASK JEFFREY TO PRINT THIS OFF IS THIS IS 
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WOULD IT MAKE SENSE AS A COMMISSION FOR US TO TAKE A MINUTE, UH, A MEETING OR PUT SOME KIND OF TASK GROUP OR SOMETHING TOGETHER SO THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF FOCUS ON WHAT EVENTS WE WANT TO GO AFTER, WHAT AREAS WE WANT TO FOCUS. 
          'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          WE'RE JUST OPERATING ALL OVER THE PLACE AND NOT HAVING SOME TYPE OF ZERO LASER FOCUS ON WHAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH. 
          SO IF THAT'S ONE OR TWO THINGS THAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH FOR THE YEAR, THEN LET'S FOCUS ON THOSE ONE OR TWO THINGS, ALL RIGHT? AND THEREFORE WE CAN BE ABLE TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE, BE ABLE TO MEASURE IT AND BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT THE EFFECT OF IT IS INSTEAD OF JUST, OKAY, IT'S NICE TO DO THE JUNETEENTH EVENT. 
          OKAY, THAT'S NICE, BUT WHAT IS IT DOING? IS IT HELPING TO EDUCATE? IS IT HELPING TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER? CAN WE SHOW THAT THAT HAS DONE SOMETHING? WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL, ARE WE DOING THAT TO INTRODUCE DIFFERENT CULTURES? ARE WE TRYING TO CELEBRATE THE CULTURES THAT ARE HERE IN HUBER HEIGHTS? JUST WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO? AND I JUST THINK THAT WILL KIND OF HELP THIS COMMISSION MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          I THINK IT'LL LOWER FRUSTRATION LEVELS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I JUST KIND OF FEEL WE'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR THIS LEGISLATION. 
          LET'S LOOK AT THIS AND THEN LET'S PUT SOME GAME PLANS TOGETHER. 
          'CAUSE IT JUST LIKE, WE'RE JUST DOING THINGS TO FILL UP A CALENDAR. 
          RIGHT? SO THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY. 
          I THINK THAT'S FAIR. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT? 'CAUSE THAT, THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION, ERIC. 
          AND THAT LEADS ME TO QUESTION HOW OFTEN SHOULD WE BE REVIEWING OUR OWN RESOLUTION? 'CAUSE CASE IN POINT, THE CITY CHARTER THAT WAS RECENTLY UNDER REVIEW. 
          CORRECT? AND THIS RESOLUTION FOR THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN EFFECTIVE SINCE JUNE OF 2020. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO FOUR YEARS NOW. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER BASED WITH ERIC, WHAT HE JUST SUGGESTED, HOW OFTEN WE SHOULD BE REVIEWING THIS RESOLUTION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MEETING THOSE MEASURABLES, SO TO SPEAK. 
          YEAH. 
          AND YOU KNOW, WE DID GO INTO THIS YEAR WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT IDEAS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZATIONS TO REACH OUT TO AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW, FOCUS MIGHT NOT BE A TERRIBLE IDEA. 
           YEAH. 
          KEEP US A LITTLE MORE ON TRACK MAYBE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE COMMITTED TO MLK, AND I'M NOT SAYING NOT DO MLK DAY, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THESE ARE THINGS WE'VE ALREADY TRIED TO COMMIT TO AND DO, AND WE'RE JUST DOING BECAUSE WHAT WE DID IT LAST YEAR, WELL, WE DID IT THE YEAR BEFORE. 
          WELL, THIS IS PRECEDENT. 
          OKAY, THAT'S CUTE. 
          BUT WHAT ARE WE, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE REALLY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? SO AT THE END OF THE YEAR, CAN WE SAY WE SET OUT TO DO THIS, THIS, THIS, AND DID WE ACHIEVE THIS, THIS, THIS VERSUS JUST WE PUT ON AN EVENT, RIGHT? DID WE CHANGE THE NEEDLE? DID WE FIX, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT NOT SAYING THAT THERE'S DISCRIMINATION ISSUES THAT'S HERE IN OUR CITY. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          RIGHT? DO WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT MEASURES THAT? DO WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT MEASURES? AND TO JUMP ON, I ABRAHAM'S MESSAGE, HE AND I WERE DISCUSSING DURING THE VOTER REGISTRATION IS WE HAVE SENIORS AND WE HAVE YOUTH. 
          NO ONE TOOK THE TIME TO GO TO THE SENIORS TO MAKE SURE THEY KNEW HOW TO VOTE, HOW TO HAVE ACCESS TO VOTE. 
          WE DID EVERYWHERE ELSE, BUT THAT WAS A GROUP THAT LEFT OUT. 
          SO AS A DIVERSE COMMISSION, HOW DID THAT GO AMONGST US? AND IT WASN'T CHECKED OFF. 
          AND THAT IS A PART OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING FOR UNDERPRIVILEGED FOLKS THAT HAVE ACCESS. 
          SO IN MY OPINION, I THINK WE'RE MISSING THE MARK. 
          THAT IS MY OWN PERSONAL FRUSTRATION. 
          AND MY HOPES WILL BE WE CAN TAKE SOME TIME, PUT THE BRAKES ON, LET'S GET FOCUSED, LET'S GET REGROUPED AND PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE. 
          WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT'S ALSO WHY WE DO LOOK BACKS ANYTIME WE DO THINGS, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALWAYS GOING, WE'RE GONNA MISS THINGS. 
          RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE GONNA LOOK BACK AND WE HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS, LIKE THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU AND ABRAHAM HAD AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE NEED TO CHANGE THINGS MOVING FORWARD. 
          BUT I THINK THAT WE ALSO NEED TO RECOGNIZE, LIKE WHEN 
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WE, LIKE, I THINK TARA CAME UP WITH THE, LIKE A RECOMME MANDATED RECOMME, WHAT IS IT? THE LIST OF PLACES FOR TO DO THE VOTER REGISTRATION? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          BUT ALSO ASK WHAT ARE THE PLACES SHOULD WE BE HITTING? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO WE ALL NEED TO LIKE HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO TRY TO THINK OUTSIDE OF OUR OWN LENS, RIGHT? LIKE THROUGH YOUR DISCUSSION THAT WAS THINKING OUTSIDE OF YOUR OWN LENS. 
          SO WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE TO BE DOING THAT. 
          I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A JOURNEY FOR ALL OF US. 
          JUST BECAUSE WE SIT ON A DIVERSITY COMMISSION DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE GET IT ALL. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          SO WE HAVE TO ALWAYS STEP BACK AND, AND USE THAT EVIDENCE AND EVALUATE. 
          THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION. 
          IF WE SET ASIDE THE TIME, IT'S NICE TO TALK ABOUT IT. 
          IT'S NICE TO BRING IT UP, BUT IF WE DON'T PUT ACTION TO IT, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT. 
          SO THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE NEED TO SET ASIDE SOME TIME, PUT THE BRAKES ON A LOT OF THIS OTHER STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING. 
          LET'S GET FOCUSED AND THEN I THINK WE CAN MOVE. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO KEEP THE MOMENTUM MOVING ON THE EVENTS STANDING NOW. 
          IT'S KIND OF HOW WE GOT SHOT IN THE FOOT LAST YEAR. 
          UM, BUT I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE SOME TIME NEXT MONTH. 
          UH, I MEAN, WE'VE CROSSED OFF A LOT OF THIS TO DO STUFF THAT NEEDED TO BE CROSSED OFF AND DONE. 
          SO, UM, IN LINE WITH THAT IDEA, YOU KNOW, OF, OF BRAINSTORMING, YOU KNOW, LET'S BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION, BUT LET'S TRY TO BE AS FOCUSED AS POSSIBLE IN THAT DISCUSSION SO THAT WE'RE NOT ALL OVER THE BOARD. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY WANTS TO BRAINSTORM THREE IDEAS OR THREE INITIATIVES THAT ARE DEAR TO AND DEAR TO YOU, UM, OR AREAS OF FOCUS, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT TO, TO BRING US A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT, UM, STRUCTURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          SO I'M, I'M ALL FOR IT. 
          WE'LL DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, ADD THE TIME TO THE NEXT MONTH'S CONVERSATION. 
          UM, JUST ALWAYS GOING BACK TO LEGISLATION IS ALL I CAN KEEP SAYING ABOUT THAT. 
          ALL RIGHTY. 
          WELL, IT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE HAD A LONG ONE LIKE THIS. 
          SO, UM, WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, WE WILL SEE YOU DECEMBER 5TH AT 6:00 PM AND WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 8 42.
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