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MARK[ CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS STATE OF OHIO Charter Review Commission]
WRAP FIRST, RIGHT? MM-HMM.IT IS 6 0 1 ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 24TH.
AND I CALL THIS MEETING OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION TO ORDER.
MR. ROGERS, CAN YOU GIVE THE ROLE, PLEASE? MR. DILLINGHAM? YES.
MR. CAMPBELL? MRS. BURGE? HERE.
AND I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO EXCUSE MR. CAMPBELL'S ABSENCE.
ANY DISCUSSION? CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
UM, ALL OF US HAVE RECEIVED THE MINUTES VIA EMAIL FROM AUGUST 27TH, OUR LAST MEETING.
UH, IF THERE ARE NO ADJUSTMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE, WE'LL CONSIDER THEM TO BE APPROVED.
THEN THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST 27TH ARE APPROVED.
UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE, TOPICS OF DISCUSSION, MR. ROGERS.
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA START WITH ITEM UH, THREE A, WHICH IS CITY CHARTER AMENDMENTS BALLOT ISSUES NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024.
UH, SOME OF THIS INFORMATION IS, UH, REPETITIVE IN THAT I'VE, UH, FORWARDED A NUMBER OF THESE ITEMS, UH, TO THE MEMBERS OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, UH, PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
UM, THEY WERE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE MEETING PACKET AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL.
UM, BUT, UH, INCLUDED HERE, WE HAVE, UM, ALL THE LANGUAGE, UH, AS APPROVED BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE AND THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS FOR THE FIVE CHARTER AMENDMENTS THAT WILL APPEAR ON THE BALLOT ON NOVEMBER 5TH.
UM, THE ONE THAT WE HAD A, JUST A WORD CHANGE THAT WAS MISSING AN S ON THE END OF GROUNDS, UM, THAT HAD BEEN CORRECTED AS WELL.
UM, THE NEXT THING YOU'LL FIND IN THE PACKET, UM, THAT WAS PROVIDED IS A SAMPLE BALLOT, UM, FOR THE ELECTION, UH, SHOWING THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY.
UH, THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, WE JUST NEED TO BE CLEAR THAT, UM, FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T AWARE, THAT HUBBERT HEIGHTS OVERLAPS TWO COUNTIES, UM, IN, UH, MIAMI AND MONTGOMERY.
AND AS A RESULT, UH, WE APPEAR, UH, ANY ISSUES THAT ARE BEING VOTED ON CITYWIDE AND THE CITY OF HUBBERT HEIGHTS APPEAR ON BALLOTS PUT OUT BY MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS AND BY MIAMI COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS.
UM, AT THE TIME I PUT THE PACKET OUT, I DID NOT HAVE THE MIAMI COUNTY, UM, SAMPLE BALLOT, BUT IT IS NOW AVAILABLE, AND I SENT THAT TO THE COMMISSION TODAY.
ANYONE WHO DOESN'T WANNA RETRIEVE THESE FROM OUR WEBSITE CAN ALSO FIND THEM, UM, AT THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS WEBSITE.
THE SAMPLE OF BALLOTS ARE AVAILABLE.
BUT, UH, ONE OF THE ISSUES ALSO FOR, IN TALKING ABOUT THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS, IS THAT MONTGOMERY COUNTY, UH, NUMBERS ANY ISSUE THAT IS APPEARING ON THE BALLOT WHILE IN MIAMI COUNTY, THEY DO NOT.
SO THEY'RE NOT AS EASILY IDENTIFIABLE IN MIAMI COUNTY, BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF MONTGOMERY COUNTY, AS YOU WILL SEE HERE ON THE, UM, SAMPLE BALLOT, UH, ITS ISSUES, UM, 9, 10, 11, 12, AND 13.
SO I THINK OUR TIMELY FILING OF THEM GOT US HIGHER UP ON THE NUMBER LIST.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, UH, METRO PARKS AND THE METRO LIBRARY WERE FURTHER DOWN.
UM, SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE OR ANY PART OF THAT PROCESS? OKAY.
THEN, UH, THE OTHER THING THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET IN THIS SECTION WAS THE Q AND A, UH, HANDOUT THAT, UH, JORDAN HAD PUT TOGETHER, UM, FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES, BOTH ABOUT CITY CHARTERS, THE CITY CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS, UH, REVIEW COMMISSIONS, AND, UH, CITY CHARTER AMENDMENTS, AS WELL AS THE LANGUAGE AND RATIONALE IN NEUTRAL TERMS FOR THE, UH, AMENDMENTS THEMSELVES.
SO, UH, WE HAVE THAT AVAILABLE.
UM, DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? I THINK BECAUSE, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT IT OUR LAST MEETING, AND THEN HE PREPARED IT, I THINK, AFTER THAT MEETING, UH, SHORTLY
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THEREAFTER.AND THEN WE HAVEN'T MET TOGETHER AS A GROUP TO REALLY DISCUSS IT OR ANYTHING AT THIS TIME.
BUT, UM, THAT WILL BE FORMED THE BASIS OF SOME OF OUR INFORMATIONAL SESSIONS.
UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE IT UP ON THE WEBSITE, UH, THIS WEEK WHEN WE HAVE THE LANDING PAGE WITH EVERYTHING ABOUT THE CITY CHARTER AMENDMENTS, UH, INFORMATIONAL, AND, UM, WE'LL ALSO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION JUST AS, UH, FACTUALLY BASED, UH, OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS FOR ANYBODY WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN, IN GETTING THAT.
I THINK THAT DOCUMENT IS VERY WELL DONE.
AND I THINK THAT'LL PROVIDE SOME ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THAT I'VE ALREADY, UH, BEEN ASKED ON FACEBOOK.
SO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.
YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE, GUYS? NO, UH, I THINK IT SHOULD BE A GOOD TOOL FOR YOU GUYS TO UTILIZE.
UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT.
AND SO, FOR ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE THAT, IT'S JUST KIND OF A HANDY REFERENCE, UH, TO KIND OF, UH, FIT YOUR TALKING POINTS, OR SOMEBODY'S ASKING YOU FOR INFORMATION OR, YOU KNOW, REFERRING THEM TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE, ONCE THAT'S AVAILABLE, UH, IS ANOTHER GOOD, UH, SOURCE OF WHERE ALL THE INFORMATION WILL BE COMPILED IN ONE PLACE.
SO, SORRY IF I MISSED IT, TONY, WHEN IS THE WEBSITE GONNA BE? UM, IT'LL BE UP BY THE, I'M TOLD BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE I'LL JUST SHARE FROM THERE.
AND WHEN I SAY THE WEBSITE, I MEAN, IT'LL BE UP LANDING PAGE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE THAT THE QR CODE WILL DIRECT PEOPLE TO, OR, UM, THERE'LL BE A FRONT PAGE, UH, ICON THAT'LL GUIDE YOU TO THAT PAGE OR THE HOMEPAGE OF THE WEBSITE.
AND YOU SAID THIS IS ALL NEUTRAL, NEUTRAL LANGUAGE IN THIS YES.
THAT THIS IS WHAT JORDAN WAS TASKED WITH PREPARING, AND HE'S LEGALLY VETTED IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
SO, UM, ANYBODY COULD SHARE THIS INFORMATION.
MATT, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, WE'D MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM THREE B.
UH, CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
UM, SO AGAIN, BECAUSE WE HAD TO CANCEL THE OTHER MEETING, AND, UH, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE MET, I DIDN'T WANT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE THINGS TO JUST LANGUISH WHERE THEY, YOU KNOW, WOULD SIT UNTIL WE GOT TO TALK HERE TODAY.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT MYSELF, JOHN, AND SOME OF THE OTHER STAFF HAVE BEEN UNDERTAKING TO KEEP THEM, UH, MOVING FORWARD, UH, SO THAT WE COULD, UH, PROCEED WITH THEM IN A TIMELY MANNER LEADING UP TO EARLY VOTING IN THE ELECTION.
SO, UM, COUPLE THINGS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET HERE.
UM, WE, UH, I HAD SENT OUT AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, A SUMMARY OF ALL THE VOTER EDUCATION STRATEGIES THAT WE HAD DEVELOPED, AND THEN KIND OF INDICATED NEXT TO EACH OF THOSE, WHETHER THEY WERE INFORMATIONAL OR ADVOCACY.
AND, UH, JUST TO REITERATE, WHAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, WITH THE LAW DIRECTOR'S INPUT, IS THAT, UM, IN THE COURSE OF THESE MEETINGS, WE CAN ONLY FOCUS ON THE ITEMS THAT ARE PURELY INFORMATIONAL IN NATURE AND NOT THE ADVOCACY ISSUES.
UM, ANYTHING THAT INVOLVES THE ADVOCACY, UH, PERSPECTIVE, UH, WOULD HAVE TO BE WORKED ON OR CONSIDERED OR TAKE PLACE OUTSIDE OF THE, UH, THE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND BY THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE PERMITTED TO DO SO, UM, UNDER THE RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE PLACED, UM, ON SOME OF US.
SO, UM, CITY STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL ARE A LITTLE MORE LIMITED IF THEY'RE ACTING IN THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITIES, UH, TO, TO DO ADVOCACY.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY THE CITIZEN MEMBERS HAVE THAT ABILITY TO EXERCISE THAT.
SO I'M NOT GONNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THAT.
BUT AS WE PROCEED THROUGH AND HAVE SOME DISCUSSION, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STICKING TO THE, UH, VOTER EDUCATION STRATEGIES THAT ARE, UH, MORE INFORMATIONAL IN NATURE.
SO, UM, THESE WERE ALL THE IDEAS THAT YOU GUYS HAD THROWN OUT OR TAKEN, UH, BROUGHT UP DURING THE MEETINGS.
SO, UH, WE TRIED TO UTILIZE THAT, AND I THINK I HAD SENT THAT OUT TO YOU GUYS AS RIGHT AS WELL TOO.
SO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THE CITY DID, UM, WAS WE, UH, CONTRACTED WITH A, UH, ENTITY KNOWN AS THE WILDERNESS AGENCY, UM, TO DO A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT CAMPAIGN FOR US.
UH, THEY HAVE DONE SOME WORK FOR THE CITY IN THE PAST FOR LIVE CAMPAIGNS, SO THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE LIMITATIONS THAT EXIST AND SUCH.
UM, JOHN WAS HELPFUL IN HELPING GET US CONNECTED WITH THIS AND FINDING SOME FUNDS FOR US TO, UH, HAVE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, BRING THEM IN.
UH, SO A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, WE DID HAVE, UH, THEM IN FOR, UH, INITIAL DISCUSSION
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AND KIND OF SHARED WITH THEM ALL THE THINGS THAT, THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BROUGHT FORTH AND, UH, THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HERE AT THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.AND, UM, THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING A CAMPAIGN, UH, FOR US THAT WILL, UM, DO A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT AGAIN, AL ALWAYS BE FOCUSED ON JUST PROVIDING INFORMATION IN A, IN A NEUTRAL FORMAT.
SO, UM, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE, OR ONE OF THE DELIVERABLES THEY'LL PROVIDE IS, UH, WHAT THEY CALL EXPLAINER VIDEOS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UH, A VIDEO THAT IS GOING TO BE SHORT, BUT INFORMATIONAL IN NATURE, UH, THAT WILL DESCRIBE BRIEFLY THE CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS.
AND THEN EACH OF THE FIVE, UH, CHARTER AMENDMENTS THAT ARE ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER.
UM, THE WILDERNESS AGENCY'S ALSO GOING TO HELP IN PREPARING, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, UH, ADS AND, UM, HASHTAGS, UH, ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT WILL, UM, HELP PUSH OUT THIS INFORMATION.
UM, THEY'VE SAID THAT WE CAN PUSH OUT THE VIDEOS, UH, THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA AND, AND SUCH AS, WELL.
UH, THEY'RE GOING TO BE PREPARING, UM, SOME DIFFERENT, UH, FLYERS AND, UH, HAND CARDS THAT HAVE THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON IT AS WELL THAT WE CAN HAND OUT AT DIFFERENT EVENTS.
AND THEN, UM, THEY'RE HELPING WITH, UH, CREATING THE LANDING PAGE ON THE WEBSITE, THE QR CODE THAT'LL CONNECT TO THAT.
AND THEN, UM, IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN TODAY, BUT I DIDN'T, DID YOU SEE THOSE MEETING NOTICES YET? I DID NOT.
THE INFORMATIONAL SESSIONS HELPING WITH THAT.
SO WE, WE REALLY NEED TO GET THOSE OUT FIRST BECAUSE THAT'S JUST A WEEK AWAY, UH, FOR THOSE, UH, TO GET THE WORD OUT.
SO, UM, WHEN ARE THOSE TO BE DELIVERED? UM, THE MEETING NOTED, THE, THE VIDEO, THE PROMOTIONAL, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT ALL, I'M, I'M GUESSING BY MONDAY AT THE LATEST, WHICH IS KIND OF SHORT NOTICE, BUT IT WAS ALSO A REALLY SHORT TURNAROUND TIME FOR THEM IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY NORMALLY SPEND ON A CAMPAIGN LIKE THIS TO PREPARE.
UH, THEY USUALLY HAVE A COUPLE MONTHS LEAD TIME, UH, BECAUSE OF THE SHORT NATURE OF ENGAGING THEM.
WE'VE ONLY HAD A FEW WEEKS TO, UH, WORK WITH THEM.
SO, UM, THEY DID GUARANTEE ME WE WOULD HAVE ALL THE STUFF AND TIME FOR THE INFORMATIONAL SE SESSIONS AT THE, UH, SENIOR CENTER AND, UH, HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
UH, NEXT EARLY THEN STARTS, AND THAT WOULD FOR THE ALL BEFORE VOTING STARTS.
SO, UH, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ARRANGEMENT? AS I GET STUFF, I'LL PUSH IT OUT TO EVERYBODY SO THAT YOU HAVE IT AN AWARENESS OF WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
UM, FOR LIKE THE FLYERS AND STUFF, WE'LL BE GETTING A, A LARGE NUMBER OF THOSE PRINTED UP, UM, THAT NOT ONLY WOULD THEY BE FOR THESE INFORMATIONAL SESSIONS, BUT WE'LL HAVE 'EM AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
UM, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM TO PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHATEVER, UM, WE, UH, YOU CAN UTILIZE 'EM IN THAT WAY.
UH, BUT AGAIN, ONLY FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.
UM, I WAS GONNA ASK FOR SOME SUGGESTIONS IF PEOPLE HAD, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA COVER THE TRADITIONAL SPOTS, LIKE THE LIBRARY, UH, CITY BUILDINGS.
UM, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, I THINK IS WILLING TO HAVE SOME, UM, AT SOME OF THEIR BUSINESS LOCATIONS.
Y UH, THE Y SENIOR SENIOR CENTER.
UM, SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE'S OTHER EVENTS OR THINGS THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT BE AWARE OF THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO GET, UH, FLYERS IN, OR IF ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION, UH, WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE SOME AND GO TO A COUPLE PLACES TO OFFER TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEM HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE THERE.
MATT, I THINK YOU MENTIONED TRUNK OR TREAT? YEAH.
I KNOW I WILL BE AT TRUNK OR TREAT, SO I DON'T MIND TAKING SOME FLYERS AND, YOU KNOW, PASSING OUT CANDY THROUGH THE MASONIC LODGE, BUT ALSO HANDING OUT SOME FLYERS AS WELL AND TALKING TO ANY CITIZENS THAT WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.
DO WE WANT TO DO IT AT THE, UH, MOVIE NIGHT? GO AHEAD.
WHICH NIGHT DO WE WANNA DO IT AT THE MOVIE NIGHT, THE NEXT NIGHT? WHEN IS THE NEXT MOVIE NIGHT? UH, ON THE 18TH.
YEAH, BUT WHEN WE HAND THIS OUT, IT'S PURELY INFORMATIONAL.
I MEAN, I'M COOL WITH THAT ANYWAY, BUT I MEAN, WELL, YOU CAN ADVOCATE OR YOU
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NOT WELL, WELL, I MEAN, IF I CAN'T, I CAN'T USE THE CITY MATERIAL TO ADVOCATE.SO, I MEAN, EITHER WAY, I MEAN, YEAH.
I MEAN IT'S, MOST KNOW HOW FEEL, IT'S LIKE
I'M NOT SURE YOU SHOULD TAKE, YOU SHOULD TAKE THE LADDER TRUCK
UH, I KNOW AT THE NIGHT, I KNOW LAST YEAR, I THINK THEY WERE AT THE MOVIE NIGHT.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE THEM JUST HAVING IT AS PART OF THEIR INFORMATIONAL TABLE OR WHATEVER TOO.
BUT I KIND OF WANT TO GAUGE, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY WE THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED TO GET PRINTED UP AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO, UH, THE BETTER IDEA I HAVE OF WHERE WE MIGHT PUT THEM OR HAVE THEM AVAILABLE, UH, WOULD GIVE ME A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT TYPE OF PRINTING ORDER WE NEED TO DO.
I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE, I THINK THOSE ARE THE MAIN PLACES THAT YOU SEE THE MOST FOOT TRAFFIC ARE THE WIDE SENIOR, SENIOR, THE LIBRARY, THE HERE, UH, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, BESIDES PUTTING 'EM IN GAS STATIONS AND CHICKEN JOINTS, UM, AND CAR WASHES,
UM, THE ONE THING ABOUT ALL THE GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS IS YOU GET A CERTAIN GROUP THAT, YOU KNOW, FREQUENTS THOSE TYPES OF PLACES.
AND THERE'S A WHOLE SEGMENT OUT THERE THAT MAYBE NEVER COMES INTO CONTACT WITH THE, UH, THE CITY BUILDINGS.
UH, I, I DID FORGET TO MENTION, UH, WATER AND TAX.
WE CAN HAVE THEM AT THE WATER AND TAX OFFICE.
SO YOU GET A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE TO GO IN THERE TO PAY THEIR WATER BILL OR, UH, DEAL WITH THE TAXES.
I THINK, I THINK THE, THE Y IS PROBABLY THE WILL PROBABLY HAVE YOUR BIGGEST IMPACT.
'CAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE IN THERE CONSTANTLY.
UM, I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAIN VOTERS THAT ARE JUST GOING TO HAVE NO IDEA THERE'S EVEN ANY CHARTER AMENDMENT RIGHT, UH, ON THE BALLOT.
AND USUALLY THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO JUST VOTE IMPULSIVELY, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
OR THEY CHOOSE NOT TO EVEN, UH, VOTE ON THOSE SPECIFIC ISSUES BECAUSE THEY DON'T FEEL INFORMED ENOUGH TO DO SO.
SO THAT'S CALLED LIKE AN UNDER COUNT WHEN YOU HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T VOTE ON A PARTICULAR ITEM FOR WHATEVER REASON.
UH, BUT THEY VOTE ON OTHER ITEMS ON THE BALLOT THAT THEY INTENTIONALLY SKIPPED THAT.
SO, UH, I HAVEN'T RAN A CAMPAIGN, SO I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS.
SO, BUT IS THERE LIKE A LIST OF REGISTERED VOTERS THAT WE COULD EVEN TAKE WEEKENDS IN OCTOBER AND DROP FLY, DROP THE NEUTRAL INFORMATIONAL FLYERS AT HOMES OF REGISTERED VOTERS? OH, THAT'S A BIG ONE.
WHAT JORDAN, IS THAT OKAY? YEAH.
SO AS LONG AS WE'RE USING MATERIALS TO, JUST TO FORMATIVE, UM, JOHN'S RUN IT SEVERAL LEVI CAMPAIGNS I HAVE.
BUT YOU WERE MORE IN THE ADVOCACY REALLY? I WAS
I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S AN OPTION.
I MEAN, THERE'S DEFINITELY, YOU CAN GET FROM BOARD OF ELECTIONS.
THERE'S, THERE'S TWO LISTS OF, YOU KNOW, REGISTERED VOTERS AND YOU COULD DEFINITELY GO, I MEAN, I, I'M TRYING TO THINK THE LAST TIME HOW I GOT THAT LIST, BUT WALKING LIST.
WE COULD PROBABLY, THAT YOU GET UNDER, UH, CAMPAIGNS ON THE ELECTION SITE.
AND THEN YOU GO FOR CANADA OR, UH, ISSUES OR CANDIDATE INFORMATION AND YOU PULL UP A, A WALKING LIST FOR, AND YOU DROP DOWN THE MENU ON WHERE YOU WANNA GRAB IT.
BUT YOU'RE TALKING A HUGE, I KNOW THERE'S 24,000 OR SO REGISTERED VOTERS, BUT OH MY GOSH.
AND OUR LAST, ONE OF THE LAST THINGS THAT WE DID, I WALKED, YEAH, I WALKED JUST THE OAKS AND MY GOD, I DIDN'T THINK I'D EVER GET FINISHED.
THEY HAD SO MANY NOOKS AND CRANNIES IN IT.
SO, WELL THAT WAS FOR THE FIRE LEVEE.
AND EVEN IF WE DIDN'T BLANKET THE WHOLE CITY, IF, UH, PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO DO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS OR, YOU KNOW, UH, RIGHT.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN THAT MIGHT, UM, CAPTURE, UM, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, HIT SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
I WAS THINKING MAYBE SMARTER, NOT HARDER.
I KNOW A LOT OF US HAVE AN HOA, SO EITHER GOING TO THE PRESIDENT IF THEY HAVEN'T HAD AN ANNUAL MEETING, YOU KNOW, ASKING FOR SOME TIME ON THAT.
SOME HOAS HAVE COMMUNITY CENTERS POSTING STUFF THERE, OR MEET AND GREET AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
QUESTIONS ON FACEBOOK PAGES IN A MINUTE.
I HALF FOR OUR LEGAL TEAM, BUT YEAH.
UM, SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO GET A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE AT ONCE.
UM, EVEN SOME OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, THEY ALL HAVE COMMUNITY ROOMS. IS THERE A WAY TO GET THE INFORMATION POSTED IN A COMMUNITY ROOM IF YOU KNOW WHO THE ADMINISTRATOR IS OR SOMEONE THAT'S IN
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IT, THAT USUALLY THERE'S A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT THAT HAS TO BE LISTED SOMEWHERE.WHAT ABOUT THE LODGES? LIKE BW MASONS? DO THEY OH, THE, IF, IF WE HAVE OUR SATURDAY BREAKFAST IN OCTOBER, I'M SURE WE COULD PASS OUT GENERIC INFORMATIONAL STUFF.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'D WANT TO DO ADVOCACY AT A LODGE.
NO, I MEANT PASS OUT THE GENERAL INFORMATION.
A PLACE TO POST SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR THE LODGE IS NEVER OPEN, BUT I DON'T, I'M SURE LIKE THE EAGLES OR THE VFW THAT ARE MORE OPEN ALL THE TIME, THE LODGE IS TYPICALLY ONLY OPEN FOR LODGE MEETINGS.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE POST OFFICE? SORRY, MATT? YEAH, PROBABLY THE POST OFFICE WOULDN'T ALLOW YOU TO DO IT.
NO, IT'S A GOVERNMENT BUILDING.
THE LIBRARY HAS IN THE PAST, IF IT'S PURELY INFORMATIONAL, THEY, LIKE, THEY POST LIKE OUR LEGISLATION AND STUFF THAT'S PASSED BY COUNCIL AND THAT'S AVAILABLE IF SOMEONE WOULD GO IN AND REQUEST IT.
SO I THINK THEY WOULD PROBABLY DO IT.
DO YOU THINK WE COULD GET PEOPLE THAT WOULD PUT BOARDS ON THEIR CARD WITH A QR CODE?
THERE ARE PEOPLE, BUT IF, IF SOMEBODY GETS ME A LIST OR TEACHES ME HOW TO DO THE LIST, I DON'T MIND DOING SOME WALKING.
I DON'T, I DON'T MIND DOING WALKING AND YEAH.
NOW WHEN THOSE QUESTION, WHEN THOSE ARE PLACED, THEY CANNOT BE PLACED INSIDE MAILBOXES.
TYPICALLY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PUT LEDGER OR ANYTHING ELSE.
YOU CAN PUT IT IN A NEWSPAPER SLOT, NEWSPAPER BOX, THE UH, DOOR HANDLE THE DOOR, THE DOOR HANDLE, DOOR HANG.
I MEAN WE, I, WE'LL ASK THE PEOPLE IF WE CAN GET LIKE A, THE KIND THAT YOU CAN PUT AROUND A DOOR HANDLE.
A DOOR HOOK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT WOULD BE EASIER FOR THAT ASPECT.
THAT WOULD TAKE YOU BACK POST, BACK TO THE EIGHTIES DURING DAD'S ELECTIONS WHEN I WALKED THE WHOLE CITY PUTTING FLYERS IN.
WHAT ABOUT POSTCARDS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE FOUR ON A SHEET AND KIND OF SAVE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COULD TAKE 'EM AND PUT 'EM AROUND IN NEWSPAPER OR DOOR HANDLES.
YOU KIND OF HAVE TO WALK THE TIGHT ROW BETWEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, SMALL AND HANDY.
AND THEN THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION YOU CAN FIT ON THE SMALLER VERSUS THE LARGER.
BUT THEN YOU DON'T WANNA HAVE TOO MUCH TEXT THAT IT GETS TO A POINT WHERE QR CODE, YOU KNOW, IT'S OVERWHELMING THAT NO ONE'S GONNA RIGHT.
SO THE QR CODE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS LIKE ON THE FRONT, YOU KNOW, INFORM YOURSELF ABOUT CHARTER CHANGES THAT'LL BE ON THE BALLOT AND JUST HAVE A QR CODE ON THE BACK TO SAVE.
OR ON THE FRONT, YOU COULD PROBABLY JUST MAKE IT A ONE PAGE OR ONE SIDED AND WE COULD PUT, WE COULD PUT SOMETHING LIKE BE AN INFORMED VOTER.
I THINK THE PACIFIC MATERIAL WE WOULD WANNA REVIEW AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, COMPLIANT WITH KINDA THE GUIDANCE WE'VE PROVIDED ALREADY.
UM, ONE ISSUE IS, WHAT WE DON'T WANNA DO IS APPEAR THAT WE'RE PUSHING OUT, UM, EVEN NEUTRAL CONTENT THAT IS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY DO FOR OTHER, UM, ELECTION CYCLES ON, UH, ISSUES OF REPEATING THE CITY.
WELL, THE ONLY THING WE HAVE DONE BEFORE IS LOBBY CAMPAIGN.
SO, AND WE, WE DO A SIMILAR THING THAT WE'VE YEAH.
AND CHARTER, WE'VE DONE CONSULTANT TO DO TO ASSIST.
THEN THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S PERFECTLY IN LINE WITH WHAT I'M SUGGESTING.
UM, YEAH, I HAD INTENDED THAT WE WOULD, AS THEY GET ME PRODUCT, I'LL SHOOT IT OVER TO YOU GUYS TO, FOR FINAL LEGAL REVIEW BEFORE WE RELEASE IT.
THEN THAT WAS KIND OF THE WILDERNESS AGENCY STUFF.
THEN ON THE CITY SIDE, WE ALREADY MENTIONED THE WEBSITE.
UM, WE WERE TOO LATE AFTER OUR LAST MEETING TO GET A FULL PAGE SNUFFER INTO THE UTILITY BILLS.
UM, BUT WE DID, UH, THEY DID AGREE TO LET US PUT, UM, A PARAGRAPH AT THE BOTTOM OF THE, UM, UTILITY BILLS THAT WILL START GOING OUT AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.
SO THE WHOLE NEXT CYCLE OF UTILITY BILLS THROUGHOUT THE CITY WILL HAVE THAT, THAT JUST, UH, THREE OR FOUR SENTENCES THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS ON THE BALLOT.
YOU GIVE MORE INFORMATION HERE AT THE CITY'S WEBSITE@WWHHOH.ORG.
UM, I'M WORKING RIGHT NOW TODAY AND TOMORROW ON THE LEGAL AD.
UM, WE HAD DISCUSSED MAYBE HAVING THAT IN THE DAYTON DAILY NEWS, BUT THERE WAS A LARGER COST ATTACHED TO THAT, SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER COST.
UM, THE ADVICE OF THE WILDERNESS AGENCY WAS THAT WE SHOULD NOT COUNT ON ATTRACTING VOTERS BY HAVING THEM READ THE LEGAL NOTICE IN THE, UH, NEWSPAPER.
UM, SO THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS WE JUST MEET OUR LEGAL REQUIREMENT BY FILING IT IN THE DAILY COURT REPORTER,
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UM, BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT 25% OF THE COST OF THE DAYTON DAILY NEWS.AND, UH, THEY HAVE IT EVERY, EVERY WEEK.
SO WE CAN DO TWO WEEKS LEADING UP TO THE CUTOFF OF 15 DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION AND, UH, MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.
SO, UM, WHEN I HAVE THAT FINAL, I'LL HAVE YOU GUYS TAKE ONE LAST LOOK AT THAT, BUT WE'RE KIND OF MODELING IT LARGELY ON WHAT WE DID IN 1617 FOR THE LEGAL NOTICE.
SO, UM, THERE'S GOING TO BE A CITY ELECTRONIC NEWSLETTER THAT'S GOING TO GO OUT, UM, IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS.
UH, SO WE'LL HAVE AN ARTICLE ON THE CHARTER REVIEW AMENDMENTS, AND THAT IT'S GONNA BE LARGELY BASED ON JORDAN'S Q AND A INFORMATION, UM, THAT ARTICLE.
AND THEN, UM, THE CITY GETS ONCE A MONTH IN THE DAYTON DAILY NEWS, A, UH, IT'S LIKE A SPOTLIGHT.
YOU MIGHT'VE SEEN IT ON THE, UH, IT'S USUALLY ON THE SECOND PAGE WHEN YOU OPEN THE LOCAL SECTION AND IT FOCUSES ON A PARTICULAR COMMUNITY.
UM, SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA USE SOME OF THAT SPACE AGAIN TO PUT INFORMATION ABOUT THE CHARTER REVIEW AMENDMENTS IN THERE.
AND THEN, UH, THE LAST THING, CITY SPECIFIC IS WE'VE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT, WE'LL HAVE THE TWO INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS ON THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS.
SO THE, THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE, UH, OCTOBER 1ST AT 6:00 PM HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
UM, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE WILL BE OCTOBER THE SECOND AT 4:30 PM AT THE HUBER HEIGHTS SENIOR CENTER.
AND BOTH MEETINGS, UH, AT BOTH LOCATION WILL BE, UH, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TIME IS ONE ON THE FIRST, ONE ON THE FIRST IS 6:00 PM SENIORS LIKE TO START A LITTLE EARLIER.
SO OCTOBER 1ST IS HERE, HERE AT WHAT TIME? SIX.
AND THE SECOND IS AT FOUR 30 OF THE SENIORS.
AND I'VE SENT EVERYBODY ON THE COMMISSION THE CALENDAR IN SENT.
THAT SHOULD BE IN YOUR CALENDAR.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO KIND OF SEE WHAT WE GET FROM THE WILDERNESS AGENCY, BUT WE'VE BEEN TOLD WE HAVE THESE FOR THE PRESENTATION.
SO, UM, RIGHT NOW, UM, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE RIGHT THIS SECOND, BUT IF, UM, YOU GUYS COULD LET ME KNOW IN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO IF YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN EITHER OF THOSE, UH, SESSIONS, UNDERSTANDING AGAIN, THEY'RE GONNA BE PURELY INFORMATIONAL.
I, I SAID MAYBE DON AND NANCY, OR MAYBE I, MAYBE I'M BEING PRESUMPTUOUS, BUT MAYBE YOU'D WANT TO TAKE THE LEAD IN THE, UH, SENIOR CENTER SINCE YOU'RE MEMBERS.
I'M A MEMBER TOO, SO I'M NOT KNOCKING THAT.
I'M GONNA BE HERE FOR THE FIRST.
WELL, I JUST, I MEAN, I KNOW YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE DOWN THERE, SO, UH, BUT I FIGURED THAT WHOEVER'S AVAILABLE TO PARTICIPATE, WE COULD KIND OF DIVIDE UP THE ROLES AND THEN SUPPLEMENT THAT WITH THE, UH, Q AND A, UH, IS KIND OF OUR OUTLINE, BUT THEN, UH, SUPPLEMENT IT WITH SOME OF THE INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS THAT THE WILDERNESS AGENCY WOULD BE PROVIDING AND THEN ALLOW QUESTIONS Q AND A.
AND I THINK EITHER CHRIS OR YOU'S GOING TO BE AT THOSE TWO TO KIND OF, I THINK CHRIS TOLD ME, I THINK HE MAYBE SAID HE WAS COMING.
I MEAN, YOU GUYS BE THERE, SO, UH, YEAH, PROBABLY JUST TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET OFF TRACK OR SOMETHING.
UM, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THOSE, OR, I KNOW ON THE FIRST AND SECOND I HAVE GAMES THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO WORK, UM, I CAN BE, BUT IF WE CAN'T GET ENOUGH HELP, I WILL DO WHAT I CAN TO GET COVERED.
BUT IF WE HAVE ENOUGH HELP, I KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER DATE THAT I'M PLANNING TO LEAVE.
UM, SO WE NEED THE FIRST, WE CAN BE HERE ON THE FIRST.
SO WE HAVE THE THREE OF YOU ON THE FIRST SEE SUMMERS AND ME, UM, JOHN, ARE YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO COME TO NO, WE'VE GOT LEADERSHIP AND I'LL BE GONE AFTER THAT.
IT'S, YEAH, IT'S MONDAY NIGHT.
I, I'LL, I THINK I CAN DO TWO, UH, WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
I'M SORRY, TUESDAY NIGHT I'M OUT.
UM, SO WE'D HAVE NANCY, YOU SAID YOU COULD DO THAT ONE? YEAH.
DON, YOU CAN JUST DO TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY.
ARE YOU ABLE TO JUST DO WEDNESDAY? YES, MA'AM.
ARE YOU AVAILABLE FOR BOTH? WHAT IS WEDNESDAY?
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WEDNESDAY THE SENIOR SECOND? BE AFFIRM.SECOND SAID, SECOND CHECK WITH ONE PEOPLE.
SO IS ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE CITIZEN GROUP PLANNING TO, TO BE ON THE SECOND OR JUST, UH, YOU GUYS ARE JUST GONNA COME ON THE FIRST I TO TRAVEL FOR WORK? YEAH.
IT'S A LITTLE EARLY FOR SOME PEOPLE.
US OLD RETIRE PEOPLE TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
AND THERE'LL BE SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES IF YOU DON'T GET TO PRODUCE WE ONE OF THESE, RIGHT? YOU MEAN THEY DIDN'T WANT IT AT THREE? SO YOU COULD GET TO DINNER BY FOUR 30.
THE SLOT RIGHT AFTER BINGO? NO, THAT'S ON TUESDAYS.
WE WANTED THAT SLOT AFTER BANGO.
BUT THERE MAY BE OTHER PEOPLE AT THE SENIOR ONE, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE PUBLIC NOTICES GOES OUT THAT AREN'T JUST SENIOR.
SO, NO, UH, YOU KNOW, MY EXPERIENCE IS YOU'RE NOT USUALLY GOING TO GET A HUGE CROWD FOR THESE THINGS.
AND YOU MAY GET, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE TO, YOU KNOW, DEBATE YOU OR CHALLENGE YOU ON SOME OF THESE THINGS.
SO, AND NOT AT THE SENIOR CENTER, THEY WON'T ALLOW IT TOTALLY NONPARTISAN.
IT'S AN INFORMATIONAL, SO TUESDAY
SO THEY SH IT, IT MIGHT BE SET UP WAY THAT IT'S ONLY INFORMATIONAL, BUT THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT GONNA STOP 'EM FROM COMING.
RIGHT? WELL, I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT HERE ANYWAY, BUT YEAH.
DO YOU THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING WE COULD DO FOR THE, UH, SENIORS LIKE HAVING SOME BEVERAGES OR SNACKS? UM, YOU'RE GONNA RUIN THEIR TENOR.
I WELL, THEY, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULDN'T MATTER AT THAT POINT.
THIS LIKE LIGHT REFRESHMENTS SOMETHING.
IF WE BRING FOOD AND GIVE THINGS, IS THAT CONSIDERED BEING AN ADVOCATE AT THAT POINT AND NOT INFORMATIONAL? I KNOW IT'S A FINE LINE.
I THINK IT, IT DEPENDS ON THE VALUE, RIGHT.
I, WHEN WE DID IT BEFORE, WE DIDN'T TAKE ANYTHING IN.
UM, SO ANYTHING ELSE WE WANNA DISCUSS ABOUT THOSE OR ANY OF THE OTHER CITY ACTIVITIES? OKAY, THEN, UM, I'M JUST GONNA MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, THE ADVOCACY GROUPS CAN CONTINUE TO MEET OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THOSE ACTIVITIES.
UH, BUT WE WON'T DO THAT HERE.
AND THEN, UM, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IS THERE'S A LOT TO BE DONE IN THE NEXT MONTH.
UH, BUT REALLY THE, THE TIME THAT YOU CAN DONATE OR PUT EFFORT INTO IT WOULD BE ONE OF THESE ACTIVITIES TO SUPPORT THAT.
THAT'S PROBABLY A LOT TO ASK ALREADY.
SO WE DON'T NEED JUST A MEETING TO JUST DISCUSS MORE THINGS, UM, WHEN THEY'RE KIND OF MOVING IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS ANYWAY.
SO IT, SO FOR FUTURE NOTICE, OR IF SOMETHING DOES NOT PASS, DO WE COME BACK TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET ON THE BALLOT FOR MAY? OR IS IT JUST KIND OF ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE JUST WELL, THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE TO BE DECIDED AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT LOOK AT IT DEPENDING ON THE RESULTS.
SO SAY SOMETHING FAILS BY FIVE VOTES, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S AN INTEREST IF SOMETHING GOES DOWN BY LIKE 90% TO 10.
YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, THE VOTERS HAVE SPOKEN AND WHY WOULD WE GO BACK THERE? BUT AGAIN, IT, IT WOULD BE FOR YOU GUYS TO MEET KIND OF PROCESS THAT DISCUSS IT, AND THEN IF YOU WANT IT AS A COMMISSION TO MAKE FURTHER RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNSEL, UM, EITHER, YOU KNOW, TO REDO SOMETHING THAT HAD BEEN DONE THAT DIDN'T PASS OR SOMETHING NEW THAT'S COME UP THAT SOMEONE'S BEEN MADE AWARE OF.
UH, THE TERMS THAT, OF THE INITIAL APPOINTMENT FOR THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION WERE, UH, DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR AS THE EXPIRATION OF THE TERM.
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SO, UM, UNLESS WE HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING REALLY CREDIBLE TO MOVING FORWARD THAT YOU GUYS WOULD WANNA WORK ON, THEN THE COMMISSION WOULD DISBAND AT THE END OF THE YEAR.SO YOU WOULD RECOMMEND A MEETING AFTER THE ELECTION TO KIND OF JUST TO DETERMINE IF THERE'S ANYTHING MOVING FORWARD, IF ANYTHING HAS COME UP THAT YEAH.
KIND OF LIKE A DEBRIEFING OF RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, WHAT WE THINK WORKED WELL AND MAYBE WE'LL DOCUMENT THAT.
AND USE IT TO INFORM, UH, A PROCESS IN THE FUTURE.
AND, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED WITH THE WILDERNESS GROUP MAKING VIDEOS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND HAVING IT ALL READY FOR NEXT WEEK.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED ME TO COME IN TO DO ANY VIDEOS, NOT THAT MY FACE IS GOOD TO FOR MEDIA, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED ME TO DO ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, THIS WEEK IS PRETTY WIDE OPEN FOR ME.
I'M NOT, I'M GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AGREEMENT 'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALLOTTED.
WELL, THEY DID SAY FOR THE VIDEO, DID THEY? YEAH.
THAT'S, THEY DO VIDEOS ON ALL THAT.
LET REACH OUT ITEMS TOMORROW AND SEE WHAT WE DO.
BECAUSE I KNOW MY WEEK IS PRETTY OPEN THIS WEEK.
UH, ALL THE GAMES THAT WAYNE SEEM TO BE ON THE ROAD THIS WEEK, SO I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO WORK.
SO IF THERE'S AN EVENING YOU NEED ME TO DO ANYTHING TO HELP YEAH.
MAY GET THINGS READY FOR THOSE MEETINGS NEXT IF THEY HAVE NEXT WEEK MORE TIME THAT COULD ANIMATE VIDEOS AND, YOU KNOW RIGHT.
BUT, UM, IT WAS GONNA HAVE TO BE A LITTLE SIMPLER BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE HAD PREPARED.
JUST IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU NEED, DON'T HESITATE TO LET ME KNOW.
SO IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, OKAY.
SO JUST, I I, I KNOW THAT, UH, MS. SARUS DID HAVE A QUESTION THAT I THINK IS A VERY VALID QUESTION TO ASK IN THE MEETING.
UM, SINCE WE HAVE LEGAL PRESENT, I DID HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, SO I HAVE A LOT OF LEADERSHIP ROLES IN OTHER SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE NOT HAD A WHOLE LOT GOING ON FOR THEM POSITIVELY ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
AND IT HAS CAUSED REAL WORLD HARM.
SO I'M ASKING, SINCE CONVERSATIONS HAVE ALREADY STARTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND DISINFORMATION HAS ALREADY BLOWN UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA, EVEN THOUGH NOTHING OFFICIAL INFORMATION HAS BEEN RELEASED, PEOPLE ARE MAKING THEIR OWN ASSUMPTIONS IN THE ABSENCE OF INFORMATION AND CALLING OUT RESIDENTS BY NAME, I AM CURIOUS AT WHAT POINT ARE WE PROTECTED BY BEING A PART OF THIS COMMISSION BUT NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.
AND I AM VERY HYPERSENSITIVE TO THIS 'CAUSE SOME OF MY FRIENDS IN THE NEIGHBORING COUNTY HAVE RECEIVED DEATH THREATS OVER SILLINESS ON FACEBOOK.
SO I AM CURIOUS, HOW MUCH ARE WE PROTECTED? AND I KNOW SOCIAL MEDIA IS A VERY GRAY SPACE, BUT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO KEEP MY FAMILY AND MY LITTLE ONES SAFE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE WOULD NEED TO TAKE, UH, THOSE SPECIFICS UNDER CONSIDERATION IF YOU HAVE CERTAIN EXAMPLES OF WHAT YOU THINK WOULD BE DEEMED AS, UH, SOMETHING YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.
UM, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE BEING PART OF THIS ORGANIZATION, UH, IN THIS COMMISSION, YOU'RE NOT FOREGOING ANY OF YOUR NORMAL PROTECTIONS YOU HAVE, UM, UNDER, YOU KNOW, AS AN INDIVIDUAL.
UM, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, WHICH THEY'RE GONNA DO ON DIFFERENT PLATFORMS, INCLUDING FACEBOOK.
UM, SO IF THERE'S SPECIFIC INSTANCES YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, BRING THAT TO TONY, BRING THAT TO, UM, THE LAW DIRECTOR'S OFFICE.
UH, IF IT'S SERIOUS ENOUGH, THEN THAT COULD ALSO BE REPORTED TO, YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE POLICE AND THE OTHER AUTHORITIES.
UM, BUT IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT A CERTAIN BEHAVIOR, I THINK YOU SHOULD RAISE THOSE, UH, WITH TONY AND US.
AND I JUST WAS LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON IF SOMEONE IS USING OUR NAMES AND ADDING COMPLETELY FALSE INFORMATION, IF BEING A PART OF THIS WOULD PREVENT ME FROM HANDLING IT HOW I WOULD, SINCE I AM A PRIVATE CITIZEN, AS, AS AN INDIVIDUAL, UM, YOU'RE PERMITTED TO ADVOCATE AND, UM, ENGAGE IN, YOU KNOW, YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AS ANYBODY ELSE IS ENTITLED TO.
UM, BUT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, SOME CERTAIN LEVEL OF EXPOSURE BY BEING A PART TO SPINS PRO IN THIS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, WOULDN'T BE UNFORESEEN FOR YOU TO BE MENTIONED BY NAME, UM, BUT IF IT ALLEGES TO THE POINT OF HARASSMENT OR SOMETHING THAT CROSSES A LEGAL BOUNDARY, ONCE AGAIN, I THINK THOSE ARE APPROPRIATE TO BE RAISED TO TONY OR TO THE LAW DIRECTOR'S OFFICE.
AND JUST FOR RECORD, IF SOMEONE WRITES SOMETHING THAT IS LIABLE OR SPOKEN SLANDER, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IF I NEED TO, UH, GET THE WORDING RIGHT, THERE'S SPECIFIC LEGAL STANDARDS FOR THOSE AND YOU KNOW, WITHOUT HAVING SPECIFICS ON THE, UH, ON THOSE MATTERS AND REALLY THAT, THAT
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MIGHT EXCEED PROBABLY THE SCOPE OF OUR JOB AS UH SURE.UM, IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE LEGAL CLAIMS, YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT BY PRIVATE COUNSEL.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GROUP? AND I'M SORRY YOU'D BE PUT IN THAT SITUATION BY DOING PUBLIC SERVICE, BUT THESE ARE THE TIMES WE LIVE IN.
UH, YEAH, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AND, AND IT WOULDN'T CHANGE MY WILLINGNESS TO PARTICIPATE.
THIS HAS BEEN A VERY ENRICHING EXPERIENCE FOR ME.
UM, BEEN LOVELY WORKING WITH EVERYONE.
AND OUR COUNTY NEXT DOOR HAS PUT SOME OF MY VERY CLOSE FRIENDS AND COWORKERS IN DANGER AND PEOPLE SEEM TO HAVE LOST THEIR MINDS THESE DAYS.
AND I HAVE A LITTLE ONE IN A FAMILY, I WANT TO KEEP SAFE.
AND YOU CAN'T MINIMIZE, UH, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS ANYMORE.
I MEAN, SOMETIMES THEY WORDS MATTER AND THEY HAVE CONSEQUENCES.
AND I DON'T THINK SOME PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THEY'RE WRITING BEHIND A SCREEN.
DID WE COVER IT? BUT, BUT AGAIN, I DO WANNA REITERATE WHAT JENNIFER SAID.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THE HARD WORK ON THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SPENT SINCE MARCH, SO SIX MONTHS, SIX MONTHS WORKING ON THE CHARTER, DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THE COMMUNITY APPRECIATES THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT FORTH BECAUSE I CERTAINLY DO.
UM, AND HOPEFULLY THE VOTERS SEE IT THE WAY WE SEE IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THE VOTERS GET OUT AND VOTE.
UH, THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING.
GET THE INFORMATION, GET OUT THERE AND VOTE IN NOVEMBER.
AND AS THE CHARTER SAYS, IT'S THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.
SO WE'LL SEE WHAT THIS, WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT.
BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND EFFORT.
IT IS GREATLY, GREATLY APPRECIATED.
WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP.
UH, THIS HAS BEEN A VERY, UM, SYSTEMATIC AND THOROUGH REVIEW, HAD REALLY GOOD CONVERSATIONS FROM OUR, UM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
UM, I THINK WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB AND, UM, YOU'VE BEEN A HUGE PART OF IT, MATT.
WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EFFORTS.
IT'S, IT'S BEEN GOOD TO WORK WITH A VERY ENGAGED GROUP IN THIS PROCESS FOR SURE.
OKAY, WELL IF NOTHING FURTHER, THEN WE WILL ADJOURN OUR MEETING.