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YEP.

OKAY.

GOOD EVENING

[1. Call Meeting To Order/Roll Call]

EVERYONE.

WELCOME TO THE SAFE HUB HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION.

TODAY'S DATE IS JUNE 18TH, 2024.

TIME IS 6 0 3.

AND WE'RE GETTING STARTED.

THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDER.

SO TONY FOOD CALDWELL, PLEASE.

MR. DAVIDSON? HERE.

MS. BAKER? HERE.

MR. CAMPBELL? HERE.

MRS. RG? HERE.

MR. AKENS? PRESENT.

MR. LOONEY? PRESENT? MRS. KITCHEN? HERE.

MR. WEBB? PRESENT.

MAYOR GORE HERE.

OKAY.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, APPROVAL OF

[2. Approval Of Minutes]

MINUTES.

UH, WE HAVE TWO SETS OF MINUTES THIS EVENING, WHICH IS ITEMS TWO, A AND B FROM JUNE 3RD, 2024, AND JUNE 4TH, 2024.

THOSE HAVE MINUTES HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CORRECTIONS TO THOSE CASE? SEEING NONE THOSE MINUTES, WE'LL STAND AS APPROVED.

NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS OUR WORK

[ City Manager Report]

SESSION TOPICS OF DISCUSSION THIS EVENING.

AND WE'LL GET STARTED WITH ITEM THREE A, WHICH IS OUR STATE MANAGER REPORT.

JOHN, GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR.

YES, SIR.

SO, UH, AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

UM, A COUPLE THINGS REALLY.

UM, JUST INFORMATIONALLY, UM, ONE STAFF IS JUST AMAZING.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN REALLY HELPFUL IN THE WHOLE TRANSITION.

UM, AARON'S BEEN AWESOME.

UM, I'M JUST PROUD OF THE WORK THAT EVERYBODY'S DOING RIGHT NOW, TRYING TO GET THINGS, YOU KNOW, BACK ON TRACK AND MOVING FORWARD.

UM, FOR US, I MEAN, IT'S, WE'RE IN THE HEART OF PARK SEASON.

UM, SARAH'S DOING A GREAT JOB.

UH, WE'VE GOT A TON OF THINGS ON HERE.

UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I TALKED TO CHRIS FROM THE Y TODAY, THE AQUATIC CENTER HAD A GREAT WEEKEND.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE HEAT'S YEP.

THE HEAT'S HELPING OUT THERE.

UM, THEY, THEY ARE, UH, UH, ON TRACK TO, UH, UM, CONTINUE TO, TO SEE IMPROVEMENTS IF WE GET THE WEATHER TO COOPERATE.

SO I THINK HE'S, HE'S LOOKED FORWARD AND I THINK THE, THE WEATHER'S GONNA HELP HIM HAVE A PRETTY GOOD JUNE.

UM, THE SPLASH PAD, UM, I KNOW WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THAT.

UM, YES, THAT ISSUE'S BEEN, UM, TAKEN CARE OF.

OBVIOUSLY THE, UH, SAND THAT WAS DOWN THERE AND TRACKING IN IS GONE NOW.

UM, SOME OF THE FEATURES AND WATER FEATURES, THEY'RE, THEY'VE ORDERED SOME EXTRA PARTS TOO TO KIND OF MAKE SOME OF THOSE FEATURES WORK.

SO AGAIN, YOU GUYS ARE GONNA HEAR LATER FROM SARAH.

I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE PUTTING BANDAIDS ON A, ON A, UM, 15-YEAR-OLD PRODUCT THAT SURE.

YOU KNOW, PROBABLY IS GONNA NEED SOME UPDATES.

SO, UM, THE OUTDOOR CONCERT SERIES, UH, HAD A GREAT SATURDAY.

I THINK, UH, MR. WEBB TEXTED ME AND SAID, UH, WELL ATTENDED.

UM, SO, SO AGAIN, THE WEATHER HELPED, BUT THAT WAS A, A GREAT EVENT ON SATURDAY.

THIS COMING SATURDAY THE 21ST IS THE, UM, MOVIE IN THE PARK.

SO INDIANA JONES WILL BE COMING UP AT CLOUD PARK.

OKAY.

THE MOVIES WILL BE AT DUSK.

UM, WE DID HAVE ALSO, UM, THE JUNETEENTH MUSIC FESTIVAL THIS PAST SUNDAY, WHICH WAS, UH, WELL ATTENDED.

UM, THE BIGGEST PLUG I'VE GOT LEFT FOR US, AND THE MOST WORK WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS FOR THE STAR SPAND EVENT.

SO IT'S COMING UP ON THE 29TH.

AND AGAIN, THE PARADE FOLLOWED BY ALL THE FESTIVITIES AT CLOUD PARK.

UM, JUST A REMINDER FOR EVERYBODY.

OFFICES ARE CLOSED TOMORROW FOR JUNETEENTH, SO.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

PERFECT.

JOHN, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, RELATED TO ANYTHING THAT JOHN HAD TALKED ABOUT IN HIS REPORT? YOU, NOT REALLY WHAT JOHN TALKED ABOUT, BUT I WENT THE PREVIOUS WEEKEND FOR THE SHAKESPEARE IN THE, THE PARK AT EEL BERGER, AND THAT WAS WONDERFUL.

YES.

THAT WAS SO NICE.

AND WE DIDN'T GET TO TALK ABOUT IT LAST WEEK, BUT, YOU KNOW, I ENCOURAGE THEM TO CONTINUE.

IT'S NICE TO HAVE LIVE THEATER HERE IN HUBER.

IT IS.

AND SO I HOPE THEY CONTINUE THE WORK AND ABLE TO USE EEL BERG.

NO, I AGREE.

AND LIKE I SAID, SARAH'S DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB, SO.

PERFECT.

SCOTT.

YEAH.

JOHN, DO YOU EVER GET WITH CHRIS ON THOSE CABANAS IDEAS THAT WE'VE EVER THINK ABOUT DOING AT THE KROGER AQUA CENTER? I DON'T KNOW THAT I KNEW ABOUT IT, BUT I CAN ASK FOR SURE.

SO WE WAS JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CAB EXTRA REVENUE.

YEAH, YEAH.

PUTTING CABANAS OUT THERE AND PEOPLE WRITTEN THOSE OUT.

OKAY.

AT MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, NANCY.

UM, TWO THINGS.

ONE, UM, THE, UM, CLOUD PARK LOOKED SO MUCH BETTER WITH ALL THOSE GARBAGE TREES AND EVERYTHING TAKEN OUT.

I'VE BEEN WAITING YEARS FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

SO KUDOS TO THE PUBLIC WORKS OR WHOEVER TOOK IT OUT, FOUND OUT.

THE OTHER, UH, THING WAS, I HAVE A SUGGESTION, SINCE WE ARE HIGHLIGHTING, UM, ETHNIC FOOD AT THE FARMER'S MARKET ONCE A MONTH, UM, CAN WE POST THAT ON THE KEY AD BOARD, UH, SINCE THAT IS KIND OF A SPECIAL, UH, FEATURE, YOU KNOW, AND TO LET PEOPLE KNOW TO COME THERE TO EXPERIENCE, UM, THE CULTURAL FOODS THAT'S BEING PRESENTED.

BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT, UH, THAT THE WORD IS REALLY GETTING OUT.

I WILL DO MY BEST TO GET THE WORD OUT.

YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

THANKS, NANCY.

ANYTHING ELSE? SCOTT? YES, SCOTT, NANCY.

I DID SEE THAT ON THE KEY ADS ABOUT OUR FARMER'S MARKET WAS ON THE KEY ADS, BUT I MEAN, WHEN WE HAVE THE ETHNIC, THE, THE SPECIFIC WEEKEND, CORRECT.

I WOULD JUST ADD A YEAH, YEAH, FOR SURE.

YEP.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL GET MOVING ON.

NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE

[ Culture And Diversity Citizen Action Commission Update]

B, WHICH IS THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY, A SYSTEM ACTION COMMISSION UPDATE.

SO WE HAVE, UH, TARA PURVIS HERE THIS EVENING, UH, TO, UH, SPEAK

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ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION TO PROVIDE THAT UPDATE, UM, PER OUR NORMAL SCHEDULE.

AND I THINK YOUR TITLE RIGHT NOW IS WHAT? ACTING CHAIR, .

I AM VICE CHAIR, UM, BY TITLE, BUT I'VE BEEN ACTING PROBABLY THE MAJORITY OF THIS CHAIR.

SO SHE'S BEEN KIND OF, I'VE BEEN ACTING CHAIR, PICK IT UP THE SLACK, FOR LACK OF BETTER.

YES.

WELL, WE APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

AND THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

APPRECIATE IT.

NO PROBLEM.

I WILL KEEP THIS BRIEF.

I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN HOME FOR LIKE 16 HOURS IN THE LAST THREE DAYS, .

SO, UM, JUNETEENTH WENT VERY WELL.

WE WERE, UM, WE ALWAYS LOOK REALLY FORWARD TO THAT EVENT.

UM, NO ISSUES OVERALL.

UM, THANK YOU.

JOHN WEBB.

SAW YOU THERE, UH, MAYOR GORE, DR.

AKINS.

AND, UH, MR. DAVIDSON WAS THERE AS WELL.

UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.

IT WAS SPICY ON SUNDAY.

UM, IT'S A LITTLE WARMER.

.

IT WAS.

I, I FEEL LIKE I WENT QUICKLY.

YESTERDAY WAS MY SON'S BIRTHDAY, SO THEN I SPENT THE DAY AT KINGS ISLAND IN THAT HEAT.

I'VE TAKEN LIKE 72 COLD SHOWERS IN TWO DAYS.

UM, SO ANYWAYS, THANK YOU FOR THE JUNETEENTH PROCLAMATION.

UM, ONCE AGAIN, I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER, UM, AND INCLUDE THE EDUCATION PIECE.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE WEREN'T REALLY ABLE TO HEAR THAT PART.

UM, BUT THERE WAS A, A BIG EDUCATION PIECE THIS YEAR, UM, AND, AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT TO US BY A CITIZEN, UM, THAT CAME TO ONE OF OUR MEETINGS AND LET US KNOW THAT THE PAN-AFRICAN COLORS THAT YOU SEE ASSOCIATED A LOT WITH JUNETEENTH, THE, YOU KNOW, JAMAICAN LIKE RED, GREEN AND YELLOW COLORS, UM, SHOULD JUST NOT BE USED FOR JUNETEENTH BECAUSE JUNETEENTH IS STRICTLY AN AMERICAN THING BECAUSE IT WAS THE END OF SLAVERY.

UM, ONCE THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION WAS SIGNED, IT TOOK TWO YEARS FOR THAT INFORMATION TO GET TO THE SLAVES IN TEXAS SO THAT THEY KNEW THAT THEY WERE ALSO FREE.

UM, SO THAT'S THE POINT OF JUNETEENTH.

UM, SO NEXT YEAR WE WILL MAKE SURE, UM, TO GET A, A BIGGER TENT AND TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN HEAR, UM, THAT EDUCATION PIECE.

'CAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

UM, THE MUSIC FESTIVAL IS FUN AND ALL, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF WHY WE ARE CELEBRATING JUNETEENTH AND WHY IT IS A FEDERAL HOLIDAY TOMORROW.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR JUNETEENTH.

I THINK WE CAME IN, I DIDN'T HAVE MY HANDS IN THE BUDGET TOO MUCH, BUT I THINK WE CAME IN A LITTLE LESS THAN 10 K, WHICH WAS RIGHT ON, UM, TARGET FOR THAT EVENT.

UM, MOVING ALONG, OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, WE DID CANCEL THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL THIS YEAR AS A COMMISSION.

UM, WE JUST HAD STRUGGLES DUE TO SCHEDULING CONSTRAINTS AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD OUR OPEN SEATS ON OUR COMMISSION FOR A WHILE.

UM, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR THOUGH, THAT WE AS A COMMISSION NEVER INDICATED THAT WE DID NOT WANT OUR HANDS OR TO CONTINUE THAT EVENT.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHERE THAT CAME FROM.

UM, THAT EVENT IS LITERALLY OUR LEGISLATION.

SO WE HAVE EVERY INTENT OF, YOU KNOW, HITTING THE GROUND RUNNING, UM, WHEN WE MEET IN AUGUST TO START GETTING THINGS TOGETHER FOR NEXT YEAR, UM, WHEN WE WILL TAKE THAT BACK, UM, MORE FULLY, UM, CCRB, WE STILL HAVE ALL OF THOSE SEATS OPEN, OR THE MAJORITY, I THINK WE'VE HAD A COUPLE APPLICATIONS.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY, OR IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, OUR COMMISSION MEMBERS REALLY SHOULDN'T SIT ON THAT CCRB BECAUSE WE'RE A LITTLE ETHICALLY, THE LINES WOULD BE A LITTLE BLURRED THERE, FROM MY OPINION.

UM, AND LEGALLY FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, WE CAN'T.

ANYWAY.

SO THAT MADE IT A LOT EASIER.

SO, UM, TELL YOUR FRIENDS.

UM, IT'S, IT'S NOTHING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SEATED ONGOING.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SEATED AS USED.

UM, AND HEAVEN FORBID, I HOPE WE NEVER HAVE TO USE IT.

UM, I JUST DON'T WANT THERE TO BE A IDEA THAT IT'S LIKE A TIME COMMITMENT LIKE THIS COMMISSION IS, OR LIKE CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE.

SURE.

UM, THE CCRB WAS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE USED WHEN CALLED UPON.

UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION.

UM, THAT WE DO NEED TO, UM, GET THAT DONE.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL, UH, 2020, UM, ASKS FROM US.

AND ACTUALLY THAT WAS FROM THE DAYTON NAACP.

THAT WASN'T REALLY US.

UM, THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, SUPER EXCITED, THAT

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IS RAMPING UP.

WE'RE GOT A GROUP CHOSEN AND WE ARE, UH, READY TO GO FOR THAT.

SO WE'LL JUST NEED Y'ALL'S ASSISTANCE WITH GIVING THE WORD OUT THERE TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS, UM, THAT THIS NEEDS ASSESSMENT WILL BE ONGOING AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT IS TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ON WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND WHAT THEY NEED FROM US.

OKAY.

I THINK THAT'S IT FOR ME.

OKAY.

THE, UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED, I THINK I, I DO UNDERSTAND AND HATE THAT THERE'S A HARD, A DIFFICULT TIME HEARING THERE AT THE ACKERBERG.

AND I THINK WHEN THE EDUCATION PIECE WAS GOING ON, I WAS UP BY THE TENT.

YEAH.

THE, UM, AND I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT, WE CAN'T JUST ASK 'EM TO SHUT DOWN, BUT THE BIG THING IS IT'S THE BACKGROUND NOISE.

THE GENERATORS FROM ALL THE FOOD TRUCKS, LIKE THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT ALL WAS GOING ON IN THE BACKGROUND.

AND I THINK THAT DID ASK HIM TO SHUT DOWN .

SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT MADE THE, MADE HEARING FROM THE MICROPHONE REALLY DIFFICULT NOW.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

BUT I ALSO THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, MR. WEBB BROUGHT TO ME SOME ISSUES AND SOME THINGS THAT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED AND EVEN ASKED ABOUT AS FAR AS A WAY TO PROVIDE MORE SHADING YES.

IN THE SEATING AREA.

MM-HMM.

BECAUSE THE MORE PEOPLE WE CAN GET DOWN MM-HMM.

IN THE ACTUAL SEATING AREA, THE CLOSER IT IS TO WHERE THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ACTS ARE HAPPENING AND WHERE THE SPEAKERS ARE TALKING, THAT'LL HELP BRING THEM OBVIOUSLY CLOSER TO WHERE THOSE MICROPHONES ARE.

I KNOW WHEN, UM, WHEN I WAS SPEAKING, IT ALMOST FELT LIKE I WAS YELLING, AND I DON'T KNOW, I'VE HEARD PEOPLE, SOME PEOPLE COULD HEAR ME, SOME COULDN'T MM-HMM.

.

BUT IT ALMOST FELT LIKE I WAS YELLING INTO THE MICROPHONE EVEN WHERE I WAS GETTING THE, ON THE, YOU KNOW, JUST FROM MY VOICE INTO THE MICROPHONE.

YEAH.

SO THAT WOULD MAKE ME KIND OF LOWER A LITTLE BIT.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT I, IF PEOPLE CAN'T HEAR, THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT GOOD EITHER.

SO, UH, I THINK THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN TRY TO ENCOURAGE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE TO GET DOWN CLOSER WHEN THOSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

AND EVEN IF IT'S AN ANNOUNCEMENT, PLEASE GATHER YEAH.

YOU KNOW, CLOSER WHILE, WHILE THIS PARTICULAR PIECE HAPPENS AND 'CAUSE THE MUSIC FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

I MEAN, THAT WAS FANTASTIC.

I MEAN, THAT WAS FANTASTIC.

YEAH.

YOU COULD HEAR THE MUSIC JUST FINE.

SO, UM, MM-HMM.

AND, AND ALL THAT WAS, I MEAN, THOSE, THOSE, THOSE ACTS, I MEAN, THOSE, THOSE, THAT WAS, THAT WAS GREAT.

SO I, I REALLY ENJOYED MYSELF WHILE I WAS THERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, DE DESPITE THE WORD YOU USED SPICY, IT WAS DE SPICY WAS DEFINITELY IT .

BUT, UH, BUT YEAH, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, UM, AND SOME IDEAS ON WAYS TO PROVIDE BETTER SHADE WITHOUT EVEN A TENT ON THOSE MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE LAYERS YEAH.

WHERE THE, THE ACTUAL STONE BENCHES ARE.

UM, AND WE'LL GET TOGETHER, WE'LL TALK WITH JOHN AND, AND AND SARAH ABOUT THAT.

SO, TO, TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING EVEN BEFORE THIS SEASON ENDS.

I THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME PRETTY QUICK FIXES, SOME INEXPENSIVE FIXES, UM, BEFORE THIS SEASON ENDS, AND DEFINITELY HAVE THINGS READY FOR, YOU KNOW, GOING IN THE NEXT SEASON.

SO, UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YEAH.

I MEAN, YEAH.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, GREAT JOB.

THAT WAS, THAT WAS A GREAT EVENT.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IT'S A, IT'S A FUN EVENT AND IT'S EASY.

WELL, THAT'S NOT GONNA SAY IT'S EASY.

IT'S EASY ONCE IT STARTS.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, AND IT'S A NICE ONE.

EVERYBODY JUST GETS TO SIT BACK AND LISTEN TO MUSIC AND RELAX AND HAVE A GOOD TIME.

YEAH, SURE.

FRED, UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

YES.

UH, FIRST THING, GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CONTINUING THE, UH, THE JUNETEENTH UM, FESTIVAL.

GOOD TO SEE.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

YOU SAID IT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU NEEDED FROM US TO GET THAT OUT TO CONSTITUENTS.

ARE WE ADVERTISING THAT SOMEWHERE WHERE WE CAN GRAB IT AND SHARE IT? I GOT, I GOT IT.

I GOT IT.

NOT YET, BUT I GOT IT.

I GOT IT.

, HE'S LIKE, LET STEP ASIDE.

THIS IS MY ROLE HERE, .

GOOD.

GOOD.

JEFFREY, GOOD TO SEE YOU.

HOW YOU, HOW YOU DOING MAYOR? COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT'S A LITTLE COOLER IN HERE THAN LAST TIME I SAW YOU.

FOR SURE.

FOR SURE.

FOR SURE.

UH, DEGREES COOLER.

UM, YES.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER.

YES.

WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY GOT THE DAYS YET, SO I'M THE POINT PERSON, OR I'M THE POINT MAN.

WHEN IT COMES TO THE COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT, OBVIOUSLY, UH, WE HAD AGREED WITH, UH, THE, UH, UH, UM, THE SUPPLIER WHO'S GONNA BE DOING THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT, RAMA, WHO'S COMING OUT OF, UH, RAMA, COMING OUT OF, UH, UH, COLUMBUS.

UM, NO DATES YET.

UM, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT INTERNALLY WITH, UH, THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY'RE GONNA ASK FROM US, AND WE'LL PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.

UM, BUT THE IDEA IS ONCE WE GET ACTUAL DATES AND ACTUAL TIMES FOR, UM, UH, SURVEYS AND AS WELL AS, UM, UH, COMMUNITY EVENTS, WE'LL PASS THAT ON TO YOU GUYS AND OBVIOUSLY OUT TO THE RESIDENTS AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

NO PROBLEM.

ONE OTHER QUESTION WAS IN REGARDS TO THE, UH, MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL.

I KNOW WE DID THAT FESTIVAL TWO YEARS AND THIS YEAR, AND, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ARE, ARE THEY DOING THAT THIS YEAR AND THEN WE PLAN TO PICK THAT UP AGAIN NEXT YEAR? MM-HMM.

THE CHAMBER IS PARTNERING WITH THE CITY.

SO THE CITY MADE THE DECISION, UM, TO PICK UP THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL ON OUR BEHALF, UM, WITH AS MUCH OR AS LITTLE INVOLVEMENT AS OUR COMMISSION WANTS TO HAVE THIS YEAR.

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UNFORTUNATELY, OCTOBER IS NOT A GOOD TIME OF YEAR FOR MYSELF.

JEAN'S GETTING MARRIED, .

SO WE'RE GONNA BE DOWN SO MANY PEOPLE IN OCTOBER.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR CAPACITY THIS YEAR IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST.

UM, THAT DECISION WAS MADE AND THEN WE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

NO PROBLEM.

YES, ANITA, I'M SORRY I DID NOT GET TO GO.

THIS WAS MY FIRST ONE I MISSED AND EVERYTHING.

BUT WAS THE ATTENDANCE JUST AS GOOD THIS YEAR BEING, IT WAS ON FATHER'S DAY AS LAST YEAR.

'CAUSE LAST YEAR WAS JUST HALF, YEAH.

LAST YEAR WAS FATHER'S DAY TOO.

WE'VE DONE IT ON FATHER'S DAY EVERY YEAR.

OKAY.

WHICH NEXT YEAR I'M TRYING TO GIVE THEIR FATHER'S DAY BACK.

, THERE'S SO MANY MEN ON OUR COMMISSION AND, AND ON CITY COUNCIL.

AND EVERY, EVERY YEAR IT'S BEEN ON FATHER'S DAY.

SO JUNETEENTH FALLS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY NEXT YEAR.

IT FALLS ON THURSDAY.

SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET IT OFF OF FATHER'S DAY.

OKAY.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS 'CAUSE LAST YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE IT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE IT LAST YEAR.

I THINK HE GOT US THIS YEAR, IT WAS REALLY HOT ON SUNDAY, AND WE WENT FOUR TO NINE INSTEAD OF FIVE TO 10.

AND I THINK BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION THAT WE WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO GO UNTIL 10 O'CLOCK.

UM, BUT I THINK THE HEAT OF THE DAY OF STARTING AT FOUR O'CLOCK REALLY WAS A BIG, A BIG REASON.

I, A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T COME TILL CLOSER TO SIX AND A LITTLE LATER BECAUSE IT WAS SPICY .

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE.

I MEAN, IN TERMS OF LIKE THE DECIBEL RATING OR THE EVENING OR WHATEVER.

I MEAN, SINCE THAT'S A, A CITY FACILITY, WE, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE MADE SOME CONCESSIONS OR WE'D MADE SOME CHANGES A FEW YEARS AGO TO WHAT THOSE DECIBEL RATING COULD BE IN, IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AT EEL BERGER.

SO MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO CHECK IN THAT AND VERIFY, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT AND CORRECT INFORMATION.

MM-HMM.

.

MM-HMM.

TO THE COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ACTUALLY DO THAT.

SO KATE, AND I'LL COME BACK TO DON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

IT WAS A GREAT EVENT.

THANK YOU.

UM, BUT I DO THINK IT LASTED TOO LONG, ASKING SOMEONE TO COMMIT TO SOMETHING FOR FIVE HOURS WHEN ALL THE OTHER CONCERTS WE DO ARE JUST THREE.

OUR MOVIES AND CONCERTS AREN'T MORE THAN THREE HOURS.

WELL, SO THE PROGRAM ACTUALLY DIDN'T START UNTIL FIVE.

SO I, I MEAN, RONZA DID, UH, THE BLACK NATIONAL ANTHEM AT 4 45.

SO I MEAN, IT WAS CLOSER TO FIVE TO NINE, BUT IF THEY MISSED THAT FRONT END OR THE INFORMATION, THAT'S THE SAD PART THAT WE WERE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, GET OUT WITH THAT INFORMATION.

OKAY.

AND DO WE HAVE ANY FIRM NUMBERS ON ATTENDANCE, JEFFREY? NOT YET, BUT I WILL, I'LL, I'LL PASS THAT ON TO COUNCIL.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH GUYS.

I APPRECIATE YOU.

OKAY.

UM, FRED HAD A, A FOLLOW UP AND THEN I'LL COME BACK TO THAT.

FRED, JUST TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE DATES, I'M LOOKING AT 2023, UH, FOR LAST YEAR, JUNETEENTH WAS ACTUALLY ON A MONDAY, THE DATE THAT THE HOLIDAY EXISTS.

SO WE HAD IT ON A SUNDAY PRIOR.

MM-HMM.

.

SO THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD MORE PEOPLE OUT THERE BECAUSE IT WAS A HOLIDAY, A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE TO WORK THE, THE FOLLOWING DAY.

AND THE SAME WITH 2022.

IT WAS ACTUALLY ON THE 19TH, WHICH WAS JUNETEENTH.

RIGHT.

WHICH WAS A SUNDAY, AND THEN EVERYBODY HAD MONDAY OFF.

YEP.

SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR.

AND THEN YOU HAD A LEAP DAY.

SO IT KINDA, OR LEAP YEAR IT THAT DAY, JUST OFTEN.

AND NOW JUNETEENTH IS ON A WEDNESDAY NEXT YEAR IT'S GONNA BE A THURSDAY, THEN A FRIDAY, FRIDAY AND, AND KINDA LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, THOSE BOOKENDS WITH THE JUNETEENTH AND THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL.

I THINK OUR INTENT WAS TRYING TO STICK TO THOSE WHEN WE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED THESE.

BUT WITH THE STAR-SPANGLED HEIGHTS AND JUNETEENTH, WHEN WE MEET IN AUGUST, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO DISCUSS JUST NOT DOING IT THE SAME WAY.

YEAH.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO MAYBE DO MULTICULTURAL EARLIER, UM, IN JUNE OR LATER IN THE SUMMER.

WE'LL HAVE TO JUST FIGURE OUT WHERE IT FALLS IN EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULES.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

BUT THANK YOU, DON.

YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I JUMPED IN MY CAR TO HEAD UP TO JUNETEENTH AND MY DASHBOARD THERMOMETER SAID IT WAS 93.

UH, AND THAT WAS ON THE WAY THERE.

SO I THINK THE HEAT, UH, I'VE SPOKEN TO A COUPLE PEOPLE WHO SAID, YEAH, WE WANTED TO COME, BUT MAN, THAT HEAT.

SO I DO THINK THAT WAS A BIG IMPACT ON ATTENDANCE.

BUT, UH, UH, YOU COULD HAVE HAD A 10, TWICE THAT SIZE, UM, UH, FOR THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.

WELL, YOU HAD A STILL GOOD, GOOD AMOUNT OF PEOPLE COME, UH, BUT EVERYBODY'S LOOKING FOR SHADE.

YEAH.

AND, UH, AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, LATER ON WHEN WE TALK TO, UH, SARAH FROM PARKS AND REC, I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAYBE GET RID OF THE GENERATORS ON THE FOOD TRUCKS.

IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN GET POWER TO THOSE GUYS LIKE WE DO AT THE BARN NOW, UH, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT RUNNING A GENERATOR.

UH, I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR.

I THINK THAT WAS

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THE BIGGEST DISRUPTOR TO BEING ABLE TO HEAR THE PEOPLE ON STAGE.

WAS THAT GENERATOR HUMMING AWAY OVER THERE? MM-HMM.

.

SO, MM-HMM.

.

UH, YEAH.

I APOLOGIZE.

ALL, ALL AND ALL THOUGH.

GREAT JOB.

ONCE MUSIC GOT THUMPING, YOU COULD HEAR THAT JUST FINE.

MM-HMM.

MAYOR, I WANDERED MARY, ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

THERE IS A SPECIFIC, UM, LINE ITEM IN OUR ORDINANCES ABOUT, UM, UM, THE EEL BERGER, A AS WELL AS ANY OTHER CITY, UM, VENUE, UH, THAT EXEMPTS 'EM FROM THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

SO THERE, THERE IS NO DECIBEL LEVEL, UM, NO NOISE ORDINANCE THAT'S ENFORCEABLE.

IN FACT, I'VE GIVEN THAT TO, UH, JOSH KING, UH, WHEN HE WAS PARKS MANAGER.

UM, THE BERGS SPECIFICALLY EXEMPTED IN THE CITY ORDINANCES.

THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

YEAH.

AND I THINK, SO I REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

I MEAN, IT, IT WAS LONG AGO WE TALKED ABOUT, THAT'S WHEN, I MEAN, ROB SCHOMER WAS THE CITY MANAGER AT THAT TIME, SO IT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

MM-HMM.

, WHEN WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION, I JUST WASN'T SURE WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THAT WAS, BUT I'M SURE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.

IF, IF IT'S EXEMPT FROM THAT.

SO YEAH, WE, WE, UM, UH, I DON'T THINK THERE'D BE ANY ISSUES IF WE, IF WE WANTED TO, IF IT, IF WE ARE EXPECTING THAT KIND OF WEATHER TO CHANGE SOME OF THOSE DATE OR CHANGE SOME OF THE HOURS TO GET SOME OF IT LATER IN THE EVENING IF, IF IT'S GONNA BE THAT HOT.

BUT THIS WAS KIND OF EXCEPTIONALLY WARM FOR THE, FOR THE TIME OF YEAR THAT IT IS.

SO, YEAH.

UH, I DON'T, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA CHANGE MOVING FORWARD, .

IT'S KIND OF THE NEW NORMAL.

YOU SHOULD PROBABLY GET USED TO THIS.

I WILL SAY I DID WALK OVER TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM CORTLAND.

HE KIND OF PULLED IN ON TWO WHEELS AT THE LAST POSSIBLE SECOND.

AND SO I DID WALK OVER AND ASK HIM VERY NICELY IF WE COULD GET HIM TO AN OUTLET, WOULD HE TURN THAT GENERATOR OFF? UM, WHICH HE DID.

THE PROBLEM WAS HE WAS A ONE MAN SHOW AT THE TIME.

SO I HAD TO, I GAVE LIKE ERIC AND JEFFREY, I WAS LIKE, WHATEVER HE NEEDS, JUST GET IT DONE .

RIGHT.

IF YOU NEED TO UNPLUG HIS STUFF YOURSELF.

SO I RECOGNIZED THAT THAT IS AN ISSUE.

AND WE RECOGNIZED THAT EVEN LAST YEAR AS AN ISSUE AND ASKED FOR QUIET GENERATORS, OR HE WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.

HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THANK YOU AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT, I THINK THERE'S SOME SMALL THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WITHIN THE ACTUAL COMPLEX ITSELF TO PROVIDE BETTER SHADE THAT'S KIND OF PERMANENT SHADE, THOSE BIG SALES.

YES.

THAT'S ACTUALLY, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TALK ABOUT.

UH, I THINK THOSE WOULD BE, UH, EASY TO, WITH MAYBE 10 TO 15 OF THOSE THINGS STRATEGICALLY PLACED.

WE COULD PROVIDE A LOT OF COVER FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY BE DOWN IN THE SEATS RATHER THAN OUTSIDE SOMEWHERE.

SO.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

BUT YEAH, SO THERE'S SOME THINGS WE CAN DO.

WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT.

THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.

MY VERY IRISH ANCESTRY WOULD APPRECIATE YOU GETTING SOME SHADE OUT THERE, .

OKAY.

WELL THANK YOU SOME MORE.

WHO ELSE? YES, SCOTT.

DO THEY HAVE REMOTE SPEAKERS THAT BRING 'EM UP THE HILLS? SOME, CAN YOU LOOK AT, I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S, SEE, THEN YOU'RE RUNNING INTO LIKE PUTTING LIABILITY ON SOMEBODY'S SPEAKER EQUIPMENT WHEN WE'RE PAYING FOR SOUNDS AND LIGHTS.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DISCUSS.

UM, IF WE CAN'T GET PEOPLE DOWN CLOSER.

THAT'S WHY I HAD , I HAD ASKED THEM TO GET THE QUOTE FOR THE TENT, AND THEN WHEN WE GOT THE QUOTE FOR THE TENT, I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT VOTED AGAINST IT.

UM, AND COME TO FIND OUT IT WAS REALLY A NEED AND WE NEED A BIGGER ONE IF THAT'S OUR OPTION.

I WANTED IT OVER THE AMPHITHEATER.

MM-HMM.

.

AND THAT WASN'T A BIG, NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

SO I TRIED , I TRIED TO GET PEOPLE CLOSER.

NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

NO, UNTIL WE GET BETTER.

RIGHT.

WE JUST LEARN WHAT, WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T AND FIX IT, FIX IT FOR NEXT TIME.

SO YEAH.

ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THE COMMISSION DID ON THAT THOUGH, SO THANK, THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

NO PROBLEM.

IT, MOST OF THE WORK HONESTLY WENT TO ERIC AND HIS, HIS WIFE, THEY DID THE LION SHARE OF THAT WORK.

SO I HAVE TO GIVE THAT TO ERIC RICHARDSON.

ABSOLUTELY.

GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

I'M GOING HOME.

OKAY, NEXT IS ITEM THREE C, WHICH IS THE LEASE

[ Lease Agreement - Taser Upgrade - Police Division]

AGREEMENT TASER UPGRADE FOR THE POLICE DIVISION.

YES.

WE'RE LOOKING TO, UM, UM, REPLACE 55 OF OUR TASERS.

UM, OUR TASERS ARE OUTDATED.

OKAY.

UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO LOCK IN THE PRICE, UM, AND, UH, HOPEFULLY PURCHASE THEM IN 2025.

OKAY.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY'RE NOT A VERY CHEAP, UH, TOOL TO HAVE, SO.

SURE.

OKAY.

SO THIS WAS, UH, IN THE PACKET FOR REVIEW.

IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS YOU HAVE? JOHN, ARE WE GOOD ON THIS OR? OKAY, GO AHEAD, JOHN.

NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

I THINK THEY'VE DONE THEIR, THEIR RESEARCH, THE TASERS WE CURRENTLY HAVE AREN'T, AREN'T SERVICEABLE ANYMORE.

AND THIS IS JUST THE PROGRESSION OF, YOU KNOW, KEEPING UP WITH THE MAINTAINING EQUIPMENT.

OKAY.

SILVER.

OKAY.

WE'LL, AGAIN, I'LL COME BACK.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

WOULD THERE BE A PRICE BREAK IF WE GOT 60? UH, JUST WONDERING.

SO I, I BELIEVE THEY'RE GIVING US THE DISCOUNTS AND, AND RATES THAT THEY CAN POSSIBLY GIVE US RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO LOCK 'EM IN NOW.

OKAY.

GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR NANCY.

SO WE'RE LEASING 'EM OR BUYING THEM?

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IT'S, UM, A FIVE YEAR LEASE PROGRAM TO OWN.

OKAY.

SO THEY HAVE A, A FIVE, WHAT'S THE LIFE LIFETIME FOR THE, THE LIFESPAN OF A, A NEW MODEL UHHUH, UM, APPROXIMATELY 10 YEARS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM? , YES.

PRESENT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

NANCY'S QUESTION MADE ME THINK OF SOMETHING.

UM, IF, IF THE LIFESPAN IS 10 YEARS AND WE'RE LEASING THEM FOR FIVE YEARS, ARE WE LEASING? DO WE GET TO KEEP THEM AT THE END OF THE FIVE YEARS? YES.

YES.

OKAY.

WE WILL OWN THEM AT THE END OF THE FIVE YEAR.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

REALLY, IT'S JUST A WAY TO SPREAD THE COST OUT OVER A FIVE YEAR TERM INSTEAD OF PAYING EVERYTHING UP FRONT, HONESTLY.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO MONDAY? NOPE.

OKAY.

NEXT STEP IS ITEM 3D,

[ 2025-2029 Capital Improvement Plan (CIP)]

WHICH IS THE 25 THROUGH 29 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

JIM? YES.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I HAVE BEFORE YOU THE, UM, UH, THIS WAS IN YOUR PACKET, THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

UH, YOU MIGHT HEAR ME REFER TO IT AS CIP FOR SHORT.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE, I BRING THIS TO YOU EVERY YEAR.

WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR, UM, ALMOST THE ENTIRE TENURE THAT I'VE BEEN HERE WITH THE CITY.

AND, UH, THIS IS A REQUIREMENT THAT IS IN OUR CITY CHARTER.

AND SO IT REALLY IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR 2025.

SO, UH, WHAT I DID WAS I TOOK THE, UM, 24, 24 TO 28 CIP THAT WE APPROVED, UH, LAST YEAR.

AND ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A PLAN.

THIS DOESN'T COMMIT THE CITY TO ANY FUNDING WHATSOEVER.

IT'S JUST, UM, A WAY TO HAVE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS LOOK AT THEIR FIVE YEAR PLAN, UH, JUST FOR CAPITAL, UH, IMPROVEMENTS AND, AND SOME OF THE LARGER, UH, MAINTENANCE EXPENSES LIKE VEOLIA, TRI-CITIES, THINGS LIKE THAT, RIGHT.

THAT ARE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR, UM, OPERATIONS.

AND SO I TOOK THE 24 TO 28 PLAN AND, UM, CHOPPED OFF 24, ADDED A COLUMN FOR 29, SENT IT OUT TO ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, GAVE THEM THREE WEEKS TO WORK ON IT.

AND WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS A, UM, A COMBINATION OF, UH, WHAT I PUT IN THERE AND THEN WHAT THEY ADDED, UH, FOR THEIR NEEDS.

AND, UM, UH, ONE THAT I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT, ESPECIALLY SINCE SARAH IS HERE, IS, UH, YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S A LOT MORE, UH, OOMPH TO THE, UH, TO THE PARKS, UH, REQUEST FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

UM, I THINK THERE WAS ABOUT $10 MILLION IN THERE VERSUS LAST YEAR WHERE WE WERE, UH, I DON'T THINK WE HAD A PARKS, UH, UH, MANAGER AT THAT POINT.

AND, UH, WE ONLY HAD $2 MILLION OF REQUESTS AT THAT TIME.

SO, UH, SARAH TURNED IN QUITE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS AND VERY DETAILED.

UH, I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE, THE GOOD WORK THAT SHE DID ON, UH, TURNING IN HER CIP AND, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A, UH, A PLAN.

UH, THIS DOES NOT NEED TO BE APPROVED.

UM, MONDAY, I ACTUALLY WOULD, UH, PREFER EVERYONE TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK, UM, OPEN TO QUESTIONS ON IT TONIGHT.

UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S, UM, GIVEN TO YOU IN, IN, UM, A SUMMARY PAGE, UH, FOR EACH YEAR, 25 THROUGH 29, AND THEN BY DEPARTMENT.

SO EACH DEPARTMENT YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEIR REQUESTS ARE EACH YEAR.

AND, UH, SOME DEPARTMENTS, UH, SPREAD IT OUT VERY EVENLY.

OTHERS HAVE, UH, SPECIFIC LARGE PROJECTS THAT THEY KNOW IS COMING OUT, SAY, IN 20 27, 28, AND, UH, AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT LIGHT IN 29 BECAUSE LOOKING OUT FIVE YEARS, THEY DON'T OFTEN, UM, UH, SEE EVERYTHING THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED THEN, OR THAT NEED MIGHT COME UP, UH, A YEAR OR TWO FROM NOW.

SO, SURE.

UH, IT'S A COMBINATION OF ALL THAT.

AND THEN THIS IS NOT COMPLETE, OBVIOUSLY, UM, EACH YEAR YOU'LL PROBABLY REMEMBER THAT WHEN I BRING IT TO, UH, TO SHOW TO COUNSEL.

UM, I DEFINITELY WILL TAKE, UH, WHETHER YOU GIVE THE IDEAS TO ME OR TO JOHN, UH, WE'LL TAKE ANY ADDITIONS THAT YOU DID NOT SEE IN HERE, AND WE CAN ADD THAT BEFORE FINAL, UM, READING AND APPROVAL AT THE MEETING ON JULY 8TH.

IT DOES NEED TO BE APPROVED.

UM, JULY 8TH, UH, NEEDS TO COME BEFORE THE TAX BUDGET'S APPROVED, AND I'LL HAVE THE TAX BUDGET FOR YOU AT THE WORK SESSION IN TWO WEEKS.

THAT TAX BUDGET DOES NEED TO BE APPROVED, UH, AT THE MEETING ON THE EIGHTH BECAUSE, UH, THE DEADLINE IS THE 15TH OF JULY.

YEP.

I THINK IN THE PAST WE'VE JUST HAD, ON THE AGENDA, WE'VE HAD BOTH ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, BUT THE CIP IS DONE BEFORE THE ACTUAL VOTE ON THE TAX BUDGET, CORRECT? CORRECT.

YEAH, THAT'S KINDA HOW I REMEMBER IT.

SO, SO COUNSEL, WHAT I'D RECOMMEND IS, AS YOU LOOK THROUGH THIS, IF THERE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKE SOME TIME, IF THERE ARE ANY, UH, THINGS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD OR ANY PROJECTS THAT, UM, THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU THAT YOU THINK, UM, NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO, TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION, TAKE A LOOK AT THE CIP AND THEN, UH, LET ME KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO DISCUSS FURTHER.

AND THEN WE'LL JUST ADD THAT AS AN AGENDA ITEM ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION.

AND THEN WE WILL JUST, THEN WE WILL GO THROUGH ANY OF THOSE ITEMS AND THEN DETERMINE IF WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT TO MOVE THOSE THINGS ON, UH, INTO THE CIP THEN TO VOTE ON BEFORE THE CIP BECOMES THE ACTUAL, THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT.

RIGHT.

AND IT IS JUST A PLAN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, SO IT'S NOT BUDGETING

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ANYTHING.

WHEN I COME TO YOU IN THE FALL.

UH, WITH THE 25 BUDGET, YOU MAY SEE 70%, 80%, MAYBE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF ALL THE 25 COLUMN EXPENSES.

UH, JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT, UH, THE REVENUES STREAMS ARE THAT CAN AFFORD, UH, FOR EACH DEPARTMENT.

YEP.

THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO EACH YEAR, IS WE JUST KIND OF AS YOU GO THROUGH IT, AND IF THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD OR YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, THEN JUST, UH, LET ME KNOW AS IN TERMS OF FOR DISCUSSION, AND WE'LL JUST ADD, WE'LL JUST ADD THEM TO A WORK SESSION ON THOSE, ANY, ANY OF THOSE ACTUAL SPECIFIC ITEMS. YEAH, WE, JIM AND I HAD TALKED AND THEY ANTICIPATED PUTTING THIS ITEM ON THE JULY 2ND AGENDA, JUST SO YOU COULD BRING THE, ANY COMMENTS BACK.

SO, AND THEN I MOVE TO THE JULY 8TH COUNCIL MEETING.

PERFECT.

NANCY.

UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, BUT I DO HAVE A, A COUPLE QUESTIONS THAT I THINK ARE PERTINENT TO THE WHOLE COUNCIL AND I DON'T, SO I'D LIKE TO ASK 'EM IF I CAN.

OKAY.

UM, UNDER IT, UM, JIM, DO, WERE THERE ANY CONSIDERATIONS IN THERE FOR, UM, THE, UH, WATER DEPARTMENT REQUIREMENTS AS A RESULT OF, UM, THE CYBERSECURITY BREACH? I'D HAVE TO, UM, TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT COMPLETELY FAMILIAR WITH EVERY SINGLE LINE ITEM THAT ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS PUT IN THERE.

UH, I DO BELIEVE THAT, CAN I SPEAK FOR A SECOND? I WAS GONNA SAY, I THINK WE, WE MIGHT HAVE SOME INFORMATION.

YEAH.

GO.

SO I DO KNOW JUST IN TALKING TODAY WITH, WITH DAVE WARREN AND HE'S GETTING WITH OBVIOUSLY WITH, WITH, THERE'S A TRANSITION IN LEADERSHIP AT VEOLIA.

SO HE'S, HE'S GETTING WITH THE NEW LEADERSHIP AND DAVE'S TRYING TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO, AND THEN WHO'S GONNA ACTUALLY FUND THAT.

SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT.

WE DO.

HE IS AWARE OF THAT.

YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

THAT INFO, I, I'M ACTUALLY EXPECTING AN UPDATE FROM, UH, SEAN YEAH.

YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD ABOUT, IN TERMS OF REGARDS TO THE WATER.

SO THAT'S NOT IN THERE YET, BUT I KNOW HE'S IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE INFORMATION FOR US TO LET US KNOW.

YEAH.

THE SHORT ANSWER IS THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS PLAN HERE, BUT THERE IS INFORMATION COMING.

OKAY.

YES, MA'AM.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S SOME, I, SARAH, THERE'S, UH, SOME ITEMS IN HERE UNDER THE PARKS AND REC TWO, UM, YOU'RE SUGGESTING, UH, AM AMPHITHEATER THE, UM, $250,000.

WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT THERE? UM, SURE.

SO THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHICH PAGE YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UNFORTUNATELY, , IT'S, UH, BE PAGE TWO.

YEAH.

IT'S THE ONE THAT STARTS WITH 2025 CLOUD PARK PROPOSED.

OH, YES.

UM, SO THAT IS PULLED OUT SEPARATELY FROM, UM, THE, THE OTHER SPENDING THAT I HAVE.

SO, UM, I WOULD CONSIDER THE FIRST PAGE, THE TRUE CIP, AND THEN THIS PROJECT WOULD BE OPTIONAL.

UM, I WILL BE ON YOUR NEXT WORK SESSION MEETING AGENDA WITH A PROPOSAL FOR CLOUD PARK IMPROVEMENTS.

OKAY.

AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ITEMS, PAVING, RESTROOMS, AMPHITHEATER, THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THAT PROPOSAL.

UM, I FEEL THAT THAT PROJECT WARRANTS CONSIDERATION, ESPECIALLY WITH SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE'VE HAD ABOUT EVENTS AT THE EEL BERG THIS YEAR.

AND HISTORICALLY, UM, I THINK THAT THERE'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO CAPITALIZE ON THE NATURAL ATTENDANCE WE HAVE AT CLOUD PARK.

UM, ON ANY GIVEN SATURDAY THE LAST I CHECKED OUR DATA, WE HAVE OVER 2000 PEOPLE IN CLOUD PARK.

UM, WHEREAS WE STRUGGLE TO GET THAT ATTENDANCE AT OUR OWN COMMUNITY EVENTS.

UM, SO I AM ALSO CURIOUS IF WE TOOK THE EVENTS TO WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE, IF WE WOULD SEE AN IMPROVEMENT.

UM, AND I THINK WITH THE SPLASH PAD REDESIGN, WE ALSO NEED TO CONSIDER A LARGER, UM, GROUP OF CHILDREN AND USERS.

MOST DAYS THAT I'M DOWN THERE, I'M SEEING A HUNDRED PEOPLE, WHICH ARE, WE'RE NOT QUITE BUILT TO BE THAT BIG AND BE THAT FUN FOR THAT MANY KIDS AT ONE TIME.

UM, SO THIS WHOLE PROJECT, I'LL HAVE A FEW RENDERINGS FOR YOU TO LOOK AT AND TO CONSIDER.

UM, IT'S MUCH MORE OF THE OPTIONAL APPROACH.

YOU COULD PICK AND CHOOSE, PEEL OUT WHAT APPEALS TO YOU, UM, BUT THEN THE FIRST PAGE I WOULD CONSIDER THE MORE TRUE WE REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER THESE N-R-C-I-P PLAN.

OKAY.

UM, THE OTHER ONES, UM, ARE FURTHER DOWN IN THE, UM, CANAL HEIGHTS DEVELOPMENT DOWN THERE, LOWER ON THE SAME PAGE.

MM-HMM.

, WE'VE GOT THE BIKE PATH, UM, ON CHAMBERSBURG WEST, WHICH ISN'T PROJECTED TO 2028.

UM, AND WE'VE GOT, UM, WITH THAT, THE BIKE PATH, THE CARRIAGE, OH, THAT'S THE CARRIAGE TRAILS CONNECTOR.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

THERE'S NOTHING THERE FOR THAT.

UM, AND THE MIAMI VILLA FIREHOUSE RENOVATION, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE WAS A FIREHOUSE DOWN THERE.

NO, IT WAS, IT'S WAS PROBABLY THE HOUSE THAT CAUGHT ON FIRE OR THE HOUSE THAT, WELL, THERE IS A BUILDING DOWN THERE.

PUBLIC WORKS WAS USING TO SIGN STORM SIGN SHOP.

IT'S A SIGN SHOP.

OKAY.

[00:35:01]

OH, THE SIGN SHOP, IS THAT WHERE IT'S IT'S AN OLD FIREHOUSE.

OH, FIREHOUSE.

OH, OKAY.

IT WAS A VOLUNTEER STATION, SO THEY HOUSED APPARATUS AND FIRE.

SO ARE WE PLANNING TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT? THOUGHT IT WAS SARAH.

ARE WE PLANNING TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT? I WAS HOPING .

SO, SO YEAH.

SO I'D CALL PAGE ONE, THE CIP, UM, SUBMISSION.

AND PAGE TWO, I'M CALLING LARGER PROJECTS THAT WOULD REQUIRE LIKE MULTI-YEAR FUNDING, OUTSIDE FUNDING.

MAYBE THEY HAVE A CULTURAL OR REGIONAL SIGNIFICANCE.

AND SO WE NEED TO GO TO ANOTHER COMMUNITY AND GET SUPPORT FOR THAT.

LIKE THE BIKE PATH IN CHAMBERSBURG WILL NEED, UM, SOME SORT OF SUPPORT FROM THE CITY OF DAYTON DOWN THERE.

UM, AND SO THESE ARE THE MUCH MORE OPTIONAL, UM, GREAT THINGS WE COULD DO TO ENHANCE OUR PARKS.

AND THERE IS A SMALL FIREHOUSE DOWN THERE, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS PART OF WAYNE TOWNSHIP ORIGINALLY, AND IT COULD BE RENOVATED INTO A THREE SEASON SHELTER THAT COULD BE USED BY THE COMMUNITY, UM, FOR EVENTS.

IT COULD BE A VERY NICE AMENITY TO HAVE ALONG THE BIKE PATH ONCE THAT GOES IN.

AND SO IT'S JUST ON THERE AS, UM, OPTIONAL AND FUTURE PLANNING.

OKAY.

AND, AND SINCE YOU'RE NEW AND JOHN'S RELATIVELY NEW TO THIS, UM, M-B-R-P-C AND EVEN THE, UH, CITY COMMISSIONERS IN DAYTON HAVE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN WORKING WITH US TO GET A BIKE PATH THAT WOULD GO LIKE WHETHER IT'S CHAMBERSBURG OR FISHBURG AND OVER THE CITY BOUNDARIES DOWN TO THE BIKE PATH CONNECTORS.

AND, UM, SINCE THERE'S SO MUCH MONEY OUT THERE FOR GROUND TRANSPORTATION, FOR BIKE PATHS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

YEAH, I'VE BEEN ASKING THAT WE PURSUE THIS FOR YEARS.

RIGHT.

AND, AND I KNOW THE MONEY'S THERE.

WE JUST, WE JUST NEED TO EXPRESS AN INTEREST AND TRY TO GET PEOPLE INVOLVED.

I AGREE.

AND ONE SUCH OPTION WOULD BE THAT WE GO THROUGH THE WARRIOR SOCCER COMPLEX, THOUGH THEY ARE IN THE CITY OF DAYTON, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY A HUBER HEIGHTS ORGANIZATION AND THEY'RE IN SUPPORT OF US GOING THROUGH THAT PROPERTY.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD THAT MEETING.

UM, THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF CHALLENGES THEMSELVES WITH FULLY UTILIZING THEIR COMPLEX DUE TO A KIND OF A CREEK RAVINE THAT RUNS THROUGH.

UM, SO I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE STAGES OF BRINGING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ON BOARD AND THEN INITIATING WITH DAYTON AND SEEING HOW WE MOVE FORWARD SO THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THAT PUBLIC SUPPORT WHEN WE GO TO PURSUE GRANTS BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE TO BUILD PATH IN THE CITY OF DAYTON.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT WE WANT TO FUND OUT OF OUR TAXPAYERS DOLLARS VERSUS HOW MUCH WE WANT TO SEEK GRANT FUNDING.

I KNOW THERE'S QUITE A BIT OUT THERE, AND I THINK THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, ESPECIALLY HAVING THE WARRIOR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION ON BOARD.

AARON.

AARON, REAL QUICK, I KNOW WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS AT, AT LENGTH FOR ANOTHER PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON.

DO YOU WANNA MAYBE KIND OF GIVE A LITTLE LIGHT ON THIS? YEAH.

SO, UM, WE'VE HAD INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM IN VRPC ABOUT, UM, BIKE TRAIL PLANNING AND MAKING THIS CONNECTION NOT ONLY HERE, BUT IN ALSO OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN THEIR LONG RANGE PLAN FOR, FOR THESE PROJECTS SO THAT WE CAN GET THE ACCESS TO THAT FUNDING.

UM, WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH, UH, ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS WHO, UH, JUST RECENTLY SUBMITTED THEIR, UM, SECTION ONE, SECTION TWO, UM, DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SO CANAL HEIGHTS.

UM, WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR BOND COUNCIL, UH, AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS THAT WE CAN USE SOME OF THE MINIMUM SERVICE PAYMENTS THAT ARE GONNA COME OFF OF THIS PROJECT TO NOT ONLY FUND THE PARK AND THE TRAILS THAT ARE GONNA BE, UM, DEDICATED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, BUT IF WE USE THAT FUNDING FOR MATCH FOR THE CULVERT, UM, THAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT, AND THEN MAKING THAT EXTENSION FROM, UM, THE CURRENTLY PLANNED CHAMBERSBURG UH, BIKE TRAIL TO MAKING THAT CONNECTION THROUGH DAYTON SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ONLY BRINGING ADVOCACY, BUT WE'RE BRINGING RESOURCES TO THAT PROJECT AS WELL.

YEAH.

AND I, I MENTIONED N-V-R-P-C BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THEIR FOCUS IN, IN THE PLANNING.

THEY'VE GOT ALL THE GIST DATA AND EVERYTHING.

YEP.

UM, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY GRANTS OUT THERE THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WAIT TO GET THE MULTI-YEAR FUNDING THROUGH M-B-R-P-C.

UH, A A RP HAS PROGRAMS GRANTS, UM, THERE'S JUST, THERE'S STATE, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH OUT THERE AND WE JUST NEED TO PURSUE IT.

UM, WE'RE TRYING TO SCHEDULE, UH, A MEETING WITH THE, UH, DAYTON'S ENGINEERS SO THAT THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE ON BOARD.

'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA NEED MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL COOPER INNER JURISDICTIONAL CO COOPERATION TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

THANK YOU.

AND MY LAST QUESTION, UM, IS, IS REALLY, UM, I'M LIKE TO KNOW THE THOUGHT PROCESS ON THE, UM, CAPITAL, THE LOCAL STREETS, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDS.

UM, WE HAVE, UM, CHAMBERSBURG WEST WIDENING CONSTRUCTION IN 2026,

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AND, UM, THEN THE, UH, PHASE FOUR, WHICH IS EAST, UM, NEXT YEAR TOO.

SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT ONE FINALLY HAPPENING.

UM, BUT THE CHAMBERSBURG WEST WIDENING, UM, WITH WAWA COMING IN THERE AND THE NEED TO EXPAND THAT ROAD, UM, IS THERE, I, I WOULD THINK, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD HAVE A HIGHER PRIORITY OR THAN WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IT AS.

SO THE IT IT DOES, BUT THE PRIORITY IS BEING DRIVEN BY THE, LEMME REPHRASE THAT.

THE TIMING IS BEING DRIVEN BY THE SOURCE OF FUNDS.

SO, UH, AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS THROUGH ODOT M-V-R-P-C.

WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE PLANS.

THEY'RE ALREADY GOING, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE SECOND STAGE DETAILED DRAWING.

SO THE, THE CIP AND THE TIMING FOR THE RELEASE OF THOSE FUNDS SHOULD, SHOULD WORK, WORK OUT.

BUT, UM, IT'S THE TIMING OF THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE USING THAT'S REALLY DRIVING THE, THE CIP PORTION OF THIS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

UM, THIS IS, THIS IS VERY WELL DONE.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

YES.

THIS IS JUST A PIPE DREAM, BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS AND STUFF, AND THIS IS FOR YOU, SARAH.

ANY PLANS FUTURISTIC TO MAYBE HAVE A COMMUNITY THEATER PLAYHOUSE SOMEWHERE HERE IN HUBER? BECAUSE I JUST KIND OF LOOKED AT THE PROGRAM WHEN I WAS OUT THERE AND IT WAS LIKE, OH, THANK YOU TO BROOKVILLE FOR LETTING US BORROW THIS AND TROY FOR LETTING US BORROW THIS AND FAIRBORNE, AND I'M LIKE, ALL THESE COMMUNITIES ARE SMALLER THAN US AND THEY HAVE A NICE LITTLE COMMUNITY PLAYHOUSE AND WE DON'T, SO I WAS JUST WONDERING FUTURISTIC IF THAT COULD, UM, I THINK THAT ONE OF OUR AREAS OF GROWTH FOR THE DEPARTMENT IS DEFINITELY TO GROW IN THE AREA OF ARTS.

UM, I'M NOW ALSO THE LIAISON TO THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION, AND SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER FOR THE FUTURE.

UM, IT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK TO ENABLE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION AND OUR COMMUNITY TO TAKE ON AND SEE HOW WE CAN SUPPORT.

SO, UM, DEFINITELY A POSSIBILITY FOR THE FUTURE.

I'M GLAD YOU'RE INTERESTED.

I'LL KEEP IT IN MIND.

SO YEAH, I JUST, AS I SAID, I, MY HUSBAND AND I HAD THIS CONVERSATION AND I THINK JEFF, I THINK YOU ACTUALLY SAID IT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO TO CHANGE OUR IMAGE FROM HUBBERT TUCKIE? WELL, ONE THING WOULD BE CULTURAL STUFF.

MM-HMM.

.

AND I JUST THINK THEATER AND SOME OF THAT STUFF WOULD HELP IMPROVE THAT IMAGE.

SO THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT I HAD.

AND FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH ANYHOW, NO, I THINK ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO BRING CULTURE IN THE ARTS, I MEAN, WE TALK ABOUT EVEN OUR, IN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UM, SCHOOLS AREN'T ELIMINATING ARTS PROGRAMS AND CULTURAL PROGRAMS AND MUSIC PROGRAMS EVEN WITHIN THE SCHOOL.

SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO AS A COMMUNITY TO HELP SUPPORT THE ARTS AND CULTURE, I THINK IS A, I MEAN, THAT'S A NOBLE CAUSE AND I THINK WE NEED TO SUPPORT THAT.

SO I JUST, I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE A NICE FEATURE FOR US WITH THE CITY, OUR SIZE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

ESPECIALLY WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT ALL THESE OTHER CITIES THAT WERE LETTING US BORROW THINGS FOR THAT SHAKESPEARE THING AND THEY WERE ALL SMALLER COMMUNITIES AND THEY WERE ALL ABLE, YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE, OH, FAIRBORN HAS HAD ONE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

BROOKVILLE I WENT TO 15 YEARS AGO AND TROY, I KNOWN SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED WITH IT FOR 25 YEARS.

SO I'M LIKE, WHY DON'T WE HAVE ANYTHING? SO, AND IF WE'RE LOOKING AT ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU'RE AROUND.

JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.

OKAY.

FRED HAD SOMETHING, THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO MARK.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UH, FIRST I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR, UM, BEING PROACTIVE ABOUT HOW WE LOOK AT CITY FINANCES, AND THANK YOU FOR THE VERY DETAILED APPROACH TO WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE.

AND I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

ARE WE ADJUSTING FOR INFLATION IN THESE NUMBERS? THESE ARE ALL ESTIMATES TODAY, ASSUMING WHAT THE COST WILL BE IN THE FUTURE.

SO I PUT MY TRUST IN THE, IN THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT.

UM, AND, AND I THINK, UH, ONE OF YOU, UM, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER LAST YEAR WHEN WE PUT IN, I DON'T KNOW IF ROSS IS HERE TONIGHT, BUT WHEN WE PUT IN THE, UM, DOLLARS FOR THE, UM, RADIO READ WATER METERS THAT ARE COMING UP, I THINK THAT PROJECT INITIALLY WAS ABOUT ONE TO $2 MILLION OVER THREE YEARS.

AND NOW IT'S UP TO TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK A CLOSER LOOK AT IT AND LIKE, UH, PRICES ARE NOT THE SAME AS WHAT THEY WERE 10 YEARS AGO OR 15 YEARS AGO WHEN WE PUT THE LAST RADIO WE WATER METERS IN.

SO, SO YES, I, I DO BELIEVE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE NOT, UH, NOT LOOKING AT JUST TODAY'S PRICES, BUT, UH, ADDING IN SAY AN AVERAGE 3% INFLATION EACH YEAR.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANKS.

REP.

MARK? YES, UH, MAYOR.

MM-HMM.

, UH, I REPRESENT, UH, WARD FIVE WHERE, UH, THOMAS CLOUD IS LOCATED.

YEP.

AND I BELIEVE THE LAST TIME THAT I, UH, WENT TO COUNCIL AND ASKED FOR, UH, SUPPORT ON SOMETHING MAJOR WAS, UH, MAYBE JUST THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER.

UH, JIM, HOW LONG HAVE WE HAD THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER?

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UH, IT OPENED IN 2015, SO ALMOST 10 YEARS.

AND INCLUDING THE, UH, SHUTTER GRANT MONEY IN THE, UH, PROFIT OFF TICKET SALES.

HOW MUCH IS THAT GENERATED OVER THE TIME WE'VE HAD IT? I HAD THIS NUMBER ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

, I 10 PLUS MILLION, DEFINITELY OVER $10 MILLION.

OVER 10 MILLION.

YES.

AND, UH, THE FUNDING FOR THAT IS EARMARKED AND THAT FACILITY'S GONNA BE PAID FOR.

YES.

SO THAT WAS ONE TIME I HAD AN IDEA.

WENT TO COUNSEL, ASKED FOR SUPPORT.

SINCE THEN, I'VE PRETTY MUCH PLAYED THE ROLE WHERE I'VE SUPPORTED EACH OF YOU IN, IN YOUR IDEAS.

MM-HMM.

, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO PLEAD A CASE AND ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

SO I DON'T WANT IT TO GET LOST IN THE DISCUSSION.

I'M ASKING FOR ALL OF COUNCIL SUPPORT.

SARAH, COULD YOU EXPLAIN YOUR PLANS AT THOMAS CLOUD AGAIN, PLEASE? YES, I ALSO PLAN TO RETURN TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION.

UM, BUT SO THE, IT WOULD BE THE SOUTHEAST CORRIDOR WHERE THE SPLASH PAD CURRENTLY IS, IF YOU CAN THINK OF IT BEING SANDWICHED BETWEEN THE ENTRY TO THE PARK THERE AND THE, UM, COLD STORAGE BUILDING THAT'S MAINTAINED IN THE CORNER THERE.

UM, THE PLAN WOULD BE TO MAKE THAT OUR EVENT VENUE.

UM, I HAVE PLANS OUT WITH, UM, A DESIGN FIRM RIGHT NOW THAT CAN HELP SO THAT IT CAN BE BETTER VISUALIZED, BUT IT, IT WOULD INCLUDE EXPANSION OF THE SPLASH PAD, ADDING IN PLAY ELEMENTS THAT AREN'T, UM, LIKE PLAYGROUND ELEMENTS THAT ARE NOT OF A TYPICAL PLAYGROUND.

THOUGH I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THE, THE TRENDS IN THE, UM, ASTROTURF KIND OF GRASS HILLS WITH SLIDES AND LADDERS BUILT IN, UM, AND THINGS THAT'S MORE ORGANIC PLAY STRUCTURE THAN, UM, TYPICAL PLACE.

SOME OF THOSE FEATURES.

UM, I PLAN AN AMPHITHEATER THAT WOULD NOT ONLY HAVE THE NATURAL SHADE BECAUSE WE'D BE PAYING, WE'D BE POINTING AT DUE NORTH FIXING ONE OF OUR ISSUES.

UM, BUT IT ALSO THEN WEST TO THE WEST, YOU WOULD HAVE A TREE LINE, EXISTING TREE LINE, UM, SHADE STRUCTURES GOING IN.

THERE WOULD BE A SPACE THAT WE COULD CONDUCT, UM, A FARMER'S MARKET OR OTHER SUCH MARKET, NOT THAT WE WOULD NECESSARILY MOVE THAT FARMER'S MARKET, BUT WE COULD HAVE VENDOR SPACE, UM, A SPACE FOR FOOD TRUCKS AND, UH, THEIR ABILITY TO PLUG IN WITH ENOUGH AMPS.

AT OUR AMPHITHEATER, WE DO RUN AN ISSUE OF MORE THAN TWO TRUCKS ARE PLUGGED IN.

WE KIND OF START TO, TO PULL TOO MUCH.

UM, SO WITH THE AMPHITHEATER ALSO PLAYING THE MUSIC, THAT CIRCUIT WOULD NEED TO BE REDONE AS WELL AT THE EXISTING AMPHITHEATER.

SO WE COULD PLAN FOR THAT.

UM, THERE WOULD BE A NEW RESTROOM FACILITY WITH, UM, A UNIVERSAL CHANGING TABLE AND THEN A, A CONCESSIONS AREA.

SO IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A NONPROFIT SERVE ALCOHOL OR OTHER REFRESHMENTS, IT COULD BE OUT OF THAT STATIONARY PLACE, NOT UNDER A TENT.

AND, UM, ONE OF THE FEATURES THAT I LIKE MOST IS THAT WE WOULD BUILD ONTO THE BACKSIDE OF THAT A VIEWING AREA FOR PEOPLE WITH, UM, PHYSICAL DISABILITIES SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO, UM, THEY'RE KIND OF ELEVATED UP AT THE STAGE, ABLE TO SEE THE PERFORMANCE AND NOT HAVING TO WIND DOWN THROUGH THE GRASS OR THROUGH PATH.

SO THERE'S A LOT TO IT.

UM, BUT, AND THIS NUMBER MIGHT COME IN SHORT BECAUSE I'M NOT AN EXPERT ESTIMATOR, BUT THAT FIRM WILL ALSO PROVIDE US A NUMBER AS WELL.

SO, SO JIM, THE PROFITS FROM THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER, I THINK IN 2023 WAS 1,000,005.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND WE HAVE PAID FOR PLENTY OF PARKS AND REC COSTS OUT OF THE PROFITS FROM THE MUSIC CENTER AND PAST.

YES.

WE HAVE THE, THOSE, UH, PROFITS GO RIGHT INTO THE PARKS AND RECREATION FUND.

YEAH.

SO MY ASK IS, MAYOR, THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER TAKING SOUTH WHAT WE'VE PROVIDED THE RESIDENTS UP NORTH, LIKE THE EEL BERGER, THE RESTROOM FACILITY BETWEEN THE EEL BERG AND THE KROGER AQUATIC CENTER AND PROVIDE AMENITY SOUTH OF TOWN.

TO YOUR POINT, SARAH, WHERE THE PEOPLE ALREADY ARE, THE INVESTMENT THAT'S BEEN MADE BY THE CITY.

I THINK THE MEADOWS PROJECT WHEN DONE AFTER 30 YEARS WILL COST ZERO TO THE TAXPAYERS.

IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID, MAYOR? YES.

YEAH.

SO IT'S ALL REINVESTMENT.

MM-HMM.

.

AND, AND I THINK IT'S PAID OFF.

I I THINK EVERYTHING THIS CITY HAS BEEN DOING HAS BEEN PAID OFF.

YES.

AND SARAH, I WOULD ASK YOU PLEASE TO PUT YOUR FOOT ON THE GAS JOHN AND HAVE STAFF SERIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST TALK ABOUT IT.

THE RENDERINGS ARE GREAT.

THAT'LL, THAT'LL GET PEOPLE MOTIVATED, BUT REALLY MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

AND, AND MAYOR, I'LL TAKE ALL THE ENERGY, TIME AND EFFORT THAT I PUT INTO THE ROWS INTO A PROJECT LIKE THIS AND WE'LL MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

BUT BY NO MISTAKE, I'M ASKING FOR EVERYONE SUPPORT ON THIS PROJECT AND NOT SOME FUTURISTIC TIME, BUT NOW, AND, AND MAKE THIS COME OUT OF THE GROUND SOONER

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THAN LATER.

YOU LIKE IT? I LOVE IT.

OKAY.

YES.

WOULDN'T DISAGREE.

YEAH.

OKAY, SIR.

SIR, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ARE YOU DONE, MR. CAMPBELL? I'M DONE, YES.

OKAY.

I SUPPORT THAT AT MR. CAMPBELL.

THANK YOU.

AND SARAH, CAN YOU MAKE A NOTE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE UM, STAGE DOES NOT FACE THE SUN SET THE SETTING SUN, BECAUSE IT WARPS THE INSTRUMENTS.

RIGHT? THE, THAT'S A FATAL FALL.

THE ING SHOULD HAVE IT FACING DUE NORTH AND THEN TO THE WEST IS THE TREE LINE.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO IT SHOULD, IT SHOULD HELP THAT ISSUE BECAUSE THIS WEEKEND WAS HOT .

WELL, IT WARPS THE INSTRUMENTS.

YES.

AS WELL.

IT MAKES, IT SOUNDS AND THEY ALMOST SOME ONE, ONE MUSICIAN SAID THEY'RE UNUSABLE.

YOU MIGHT AS WELL PITCH OUT THE GUITAR ONCE IT'S BEEN WARPED.

WOW.

YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST SOAK IT IN THE RIVER.

IT'S WARPED LIKE IT'S OVER.

RIGHT.

FOR THAT REST, THAT INSTRUMENT.

THANK YOU.

NO, THANK YOU.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS AND I SUPPORT YOU MR. CAMPBELL.

THANK YOU NANCY.

YEAH.

UM, THAT'S GREAT.

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY GREAT.

WHAT, WHAT'S THE STATUS OF, OF THE SIDEWALK FROM KITTRIDGE TO, TO CLOUD PARK? I DON'T KNOW, BUT WHEN I SAW THE TREES BEING CUT, I HOPE THAT'S PHASE ONE OF PUTTING THAT I HOPE IT IS TOO.

UM, DOES ANYBODY KNOW? I DUNNO, AARON, DO YOU KNOW? I DO NOT, BUT I WILL GET BACK WITH YOU.

I BELIE, I MEAN, WE'VE AWARDED THE CONTRACT AND THERE IT SHOULD, IF IT SHOULD BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

COOL.

THANK YOU.

YES, KATE, MAY I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT TO MRS. KITCHENS WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE PLAY CENTERS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES? I KNOW A LOT ABOUT THE ALIA ONE AND THE PARENTS.

THEY BUILD THE SETS, THEY PAINT THE SETS, THEY PROVIDE THAT COSTUMES, THEY PROVIDE ALL THE SETS.

SO IT'S, IT'S VERY PARENTAL DRIVEN.

NOT, AND IF YOU CAN GET A GRANT, THAT'D BE GREAT, BUT LIKE, IT'S VERY PARENTAL AND GRANDPARENT DRIVEN.

WELL, THAT'S IS MY EXPERIENCE FROM IT.

JUST, JUST, SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT TO YOUR, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WELL, THAT'S FAN DAIRY.

I KNOW PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN VERY INVOLVED WITH BROOKVILLE AND WITH TROY AND IT'S REALLY A COMMUNITY.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY HIGH SCHOOL THAT IT'S TRULY A COMMUNITY THEATER.

AND I KNOW THAT'S THE SAME FOR THE BROOKVILLE ONE.

'CAUSE I KNOW THE PARENTS THAT DO THAT AND THEY PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THE SETS.

THEY BUY THE LUMBER, THEY BUILD THE SETS, AND THEY PAINT THE SETS AND THE, THE, AND THE CHILDREN ARE IN THIS PLACE.

I THINK IF WE HAVE, IF, IF WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE ARE CALLING IT COMMUNITY THEATER, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHICH, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT IT IS, LOCAL COMMUNITY THEATER, UM, I WOULD HOPE.

AND I THINK IF WE MARKET IT RIGHT AND ADVERTISE IT RIGHT, AND PEOPLE, AND NUMBER ONE, THE PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS.

MM-HMM.

, I THINK WE MIGHT SEE PEOPLE COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK THAT YOU REALLY WOULDN'T HAVE EXPECTED OR KNOW WHO WOULD EVEN BE INTERESTED IN DOING COMMUNITY THEATER.

BUT IF, BUT IF THEY HAVE A PLACE TO PERFORM, I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, A GREAT PLACE TO GET, YOU KNOW, TO GET STARTED.

AND, AND ANYTHING WITH, ANYTHING WITH CULTURE IN THE ARTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

I MEAN, I'M, I I, I'M A, I'M A BIG FAN.

I'M A BIG SUPPORTER OF THAT BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT ALL COMES DOWN TO WHEN, WHEN WE, WE TALK ABOUT PROVIDING AMENITIES FOR THIS COMMUNITY, AND WE TALK ABOUT DOING THINGS TO, TO MAKE PEOPLE EXCITED AND HAPPY ABOUT WHERE THEY LIVE.

IT'S SO MANY OF THE SMALL THINGS.

I MEAN, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THIS.

WE GO BACK TO JUST THE BANNERS HANGING WHEN WE CHANGE THE BANNERS OUT, HANGING ON THE STREET, ON THE STREET POLES, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

.

UM, WHEN WE DID THE CROSSWALK SECTIONS THAT BRANT PIKE AND, AND CHAMBERS WERE, WHEN THAT WAS DONE, IT'S, IT'S ALL THOSE LITTLE THINGS THAT MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY IN THE SPACE THAT THEY LIVE, AND IT MAKES THEM PROUD TO LIVE WHERE THEY LIVE.

SO ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO THAT HELPS SUPPORT AND BRING THAT TYPE OF CULTURE AND COMMUNITY AND ARTS TO WHERE PEOPLE FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE AT, THAT'S ONLY GOING TO PAY DIVIDENDS TENFOLD, I BELIEVE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK THAT IS, I THINK THAT IS A BIG PIECE THAT WE HAVE BEEN LACKING.

AND I'M MORE AND MORE IMPRESSED EVERY TIME THAT I HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT POTENTIAL WE HAVE HERE.

UM, AND I COULDN'T BE HAPPIER THAT YOU'RE LEAVING THIS CHARGE FOR US.

AND, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE ALL LIKED AND HAD INTEREST IN, BUT HOW, HOW DO WE DO IT? AND I THINK YOU, IN THAT SEAT REALLY KINDA HELPS US BRING ALL THIS TOGETHER.

SO I'M, I'M REALLY HAPPY, I'M REALLY HAPPY AND PLEASED ABOUT THAT.

BUT I DO AGREE THIS, THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED IN ACTIVELY PURSUING AND FUNDING THINGS THAT HELP THAT PART OF THE COMMUNITY GROW.

'CAUSE I THINK THOSE PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE.

I I, I DO.

I I BELIEVE THOSE PEOPLE EXIST IN OUR COMMUNITY AND RIGHT NOW THEY, THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO OTHER PLACES WISHING WE HAD SOMETHING LIKE THAT HERE.

SO MARK, THERE'S ALSO PEOPLE FROM THE REGION OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY.

MM-HMM.

, WHO HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR EFFORTS.

YES.

TWO THAT COME TO MIND IS STEWART AND MIMI ROSE.

MM-HMM.

, WHO DONATED OVER $4 MILLION TO OUR CITY.

YEP.

AND I REMEMBER THE EVENING THAT STEWART ASKED ME WHEN I KNEW THE ROSE WAS GOING TO BE A SUCCESS, AND I SAID, THE DAY YOU PAID US $4 MILLION FOR

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YOUR NAME, .

YEAH.

BUT THERE'S ALL SORTS OF WAYS OF RAISING MONEY.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND THIS CITY HAS PROVEN IT, HAS IT NOT JIM.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

AND THERE'S NO REASON WE SLOWED DOWN.

WE'D BEEN IN A WALL FOR A FEW YEARS, BUT WE COULD HIT THE GAS AND TAKE OFF AGAIN.

BUT THE SOUTH OF TOWN RESIDENTS DESERVE AS MUCH AS ANYONE ELSE.

YES, THEY DO.

AND, UH, WE HAVE BEEN REINVESTING.

WE JUST NEED TO KEEP DOING THAT.

SURE.

I, AND I, I, I, I AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK IT IS, UM, WE'VE HEARD MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES, RIGHT.

THE PEOPLE BELIEVE THE, OF THIS DIVIDE BETWEEN NORTH AND SOUTH AND WHERE MONEY IS BEING, UH, DRIVEN, WHERE MONEY'S BEING MOVED.

AND CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, TAYLORSVILLE SOUTH, UH, HAS BEEN BIG ON OUR MINDS.

IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE WERE SO ADAMANT ABOUT MAKING THE PURCHASE OF MARION MEADOWS AND, AND TURNING THAT INTO WHAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW.

IT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT EVERYBODY HAD HOPED FOR OR TALKED ABOUT, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY REINVESTMENT.

IT LOOKS, I MEAN, IT'S 10 TIMES BETTER NOW THAN WHAT IT HAS EVER BEEN.

UM, SO YEAH, INVESTMENT IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE CITY IS, IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, UH, JUST AS IT IS, JUST AS IMPORTANT AS ANY PLACE ELSE.

MM-HMM.

.

SO, YES.

AND ANYTHING THAT'S LACKING, UH, JUST WAIT TILL WE, UH, START WITH HUBER CENTER YES.

AND START THAT SECOND PHASE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT.

YEP.

LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

ANYONE ELSE? YES, ANITA.

I MEAN, PART OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, MARK, I THINK I APPROACHED YOU LIKE WHEN I GOT ELECTED TO COUNCIL.

HUBER HEIGHTS HAS A FOUNDATION.

DOESN'T ANY, WERE YOU GUYS ALL AWARE OF THAT? BUT IT'S BEEN INACTIVE.

I MEAN, THAT IS A PERFECT THING IF THAT COULD GET REACTIVATED TO GO AFTER SOME OF THESE COMMUNITY FUNDS AND GO AFTER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IF THAT COULD GET RE-BOUGHT UP.

IT'S AT THE DAYTON FOUNDATION.

IT'S JUST BEEN IN INACTIVE MAYOR.

YES, MARK AND, AND ANITA.

I, I HAD FORGOT ABOUT THAT CONVERSATION TILL RIGHT NOW.

WHAT I REMEMBER ABOUT THAT CONVERSATION WAS WHAT YOU AND I WERE TOLD WE COULDN'T DO.

MM-HMM.

AND WHAT WE COULDN'T ACCOMPLISH.

AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU GET WITH CHRIS, UH, SOMETIME RUN THAT IDEA BY HIM, AND I'LL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO VOLUNTEER TO BE ON THAT CALL AGAIN.

AND I BET SOMEBODY LIKE CHRIS CAN FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN VERSUS TELL US HOW WE CAN, BECAUSE THAT WAS A BRILLIANT IDEA.

AND IF WE HAD DONE IT, THEN YOU IMAGINE THE MONEY WE WOULD'VE HAD RAISED BY NOW ALREADY.

THANK YOU.

GREAT DISCUSSION.

APPRECIATE IT.

MM-HMM.

, ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY.

SO, UH, NEXT, NEXT STEP OF THIS WOULD BE, UH, THERE WON'T BE ANYTHING, UH, MONDAY, BUT IT'LL COME BACK TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION.

SO COUNSEL, AGAIN, PLEASE JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH IT AND ANYTHING THAT YOU, THAT YOU WANT TO ADD, UM, IF, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD BUT YOU'RE NOT SURE IF THAT'S INCLUDED IN SOME OF THOSE OVERALL NUMBERS, REACH OUT TO, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO JOHN, UM, AND THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY GET WITHIN THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND MAKE SURE THAT SOME OF WHAT YOU MIGHT BE ASKING MIGHT ALREADY BE IN THERE BUT NOT LABELED WHAT YOU'RE THINKING.

SO WE CAN WORK THROUGH ALL THAT.

AND THEN AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION, WE'RE PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS.

OKAY.

NEXT STEP IS ITEM THREE E, WHICH IS

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SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION TO JIM.

UH, YES, I HAVE, UH, COUNSEL A FEW, UM, SUPPLE, UH, CHANGES TO THE BUDGET THAT I'M RECOMMENDING TONIGHT, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED BY DEPARTMENTS.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, UH, $35,000 FOR TWO MESSAGE BOARD, ELECTRONIC SIGNS FOR USE BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION.

AND, UM, UH, AFTER THAT, UH, $57,395 FOR, UH, GTAC MODEMS AND DOCKS FOR POLICE CRUISERS.

UM, WE'RE DESIGNATING, UM, ALMOST $50,000 THAT HAS BEEN ALREADY RECEIVED IN TRAINING GRANT DOLLARS, UH, TOWARDS THIS EXPENSE.

SO OUR PORTION OF IT IS ONLY, UM, UH, NOT EVEN QUITE $8,000.

SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD USE OF, UH, THE TRAINING GRANT MONEY THAT WAS RECOMMENDED TO ME BY CHIEF LIGHTNER.

UM, AS, AS I TOLD YOU, WHEN WE APPROVED THE BUDGET IN JANUARY, WE WERE NOT, UH, DESIGNATED ANY, UM, BUDGET DOLLARS YET INTO THE NEW, UH, GOVERNANCE CENTER CONSTRUCTION, OR, UM, TO, UM, UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON HERE IS $50,000 FOR FURNITURE AND FIXTURES, WHICH AT THAT TIME WE DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GONNA BE, UH, MOVING INTO THE, UH, SINCLAIR BUILDING.

AND, UM, SO THAT HAS BEEN AN ESTIMATE THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME BY SARAH.

SHE THINKS THAT, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES, UH, FURNITURE AND FIXTURES FOR NOT ONLY A SENIOR CENTER, BUT FOR HER TO HAVE AN OFFICE OUT THERE, UH, SHE THINKS THAT, UH, CAN BE DONE, UH, FOR $50,000 OR LESS.

SO SHE'S ASKING FOR THAT.

THAT WOULD BE JUST FOR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES.

THE, UM, PACKAGE FOR THE LIKE RECREATIONAL SPACE OF THE SENIORS WOULD'VE BE COMING SEPARATE AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT BACK.

OKAY.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

AND THEN THE LAST PIECE IS, UH, UM, RIGHT NOW AN ESTIMATE OF $10 MILLION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE GOVERNANCE CENTER.

WE'VE ALREADY GOT,

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UH, A BID IN, UM, JUST A, A HAIR UNDER 7 MILLION, BUT THAT'S ONLY PHASE ONE.

SO, UH, UH, WE'VE BEEN TALKING INTERNALLY STAFF THAT WE THINK THE SECOND PHASE OF THAT, UH, WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE, UH, SHOULD BE $3 MILLION OR LESS.

UM, SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S, THAT'S TIED INTO THE NOTES THAT COUNCIL'S ALREADY APPROVED FOR 10 MILLION, UH, FOR THE GOVERNANCE CENTER.

SO THIS IS FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT.

AND, UH, THAT OF COURSE WAS NOT IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET UNTIL WE, UH, CAME CLOSER TO ACTUAL NUMBERS.

SO NOW THAT WE'RE CLOSER TO THAT FIGURE, NOW I'M ASKING COUNSEL IF THEY WOULD APPROVE, UH, APPROVE AN INCREASE TO THE BUDGET FOR $10 MILLION FOR THAT.

AND, UH, THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN, UH, WAITING FOR A COUPLE MEETINGS TO COME AT THIS MEETING.

SO I WOULD ASK THAT, UH, IF YOU COULD, UH, TONY, I THINK YOU BELIEVE YOU SAY, UH, WAIVE THE, UM, SECOND READING AND, UH, IT WOULD BE APPROVED ON MONDAY NIGHT WOULD BE MY REQUEST FOR SUPPLEMENTAL PREPARATIONS.

YES.

YES.

JUST, JUST FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL NO ACTION ON THE, ON THE CIP UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.

BUT THIS, UH, COUNCIL MEETING COMING UP NEXT WEEK, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD, UH, PASS THAT.

SO I THINK THERE, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, A, A NUMBER OF THESE THINGS, I KNOW SARAH'S REALLY IN NEED OF THOSE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE FURNITURE AND FIXTURES TO GET GOING.

UM, SO, UM, SOONER THE BETTER I THINK IN, SO AS LONG AS WE WAIVE THE SECOND READING ALL FINANCIAL SEARCHES THAT GOES, THAT GOES INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

RETRO 30 DAYS.

YES.

OKAY.

YEP.

MM-HMM.

SO AS LONG AS WE WAIVE THE SECOND READING THOSE, THAT'LL, THAT MONEY WILL BE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, SO, OKAY.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, I NEED IT.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS, WHAT IS PUBLIC WORKS' LIKE MESSAGES THEY'RE GONNA BE RUNNING ON THE ELECTRONIC SIGNS.

I, I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT THOSE WERE GOING TO BE ABOUT.

UM, JOHN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS, BUT I THINK IT'S DIRECTIONAL SIGNS, LIKE OKAY, MOVE OVER ONE LANE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

LIKE MOSTLY IT'S OUT ON THE ROADWAYS, TELLING THEM LAYING AHEAD CLOSED, WHATEVER.

WE DO USE SOME OF THOSE SIGNAGE TOO FOR OUR FESTIVALS AND STUFF.

SO WE, WE KIND OF USE THOSE IN OTHER PLACES.

SO MIKE'S GOT TWO.

WE NEED TWO MORE TO KIND OF MAKE GOOD USE OF EVERYTHING.

SO I WAS JUST THINKING IN FRONT OF THE NEW BUILDING, I'M LIKE, WHAT KIND OF MESSAGES ARE THEY SENDING? I'M THESE, ARE I ALWAYS, I WAS GOING THROUGH MY, YEAH, THESE, THESE ARE MOBILE SIGNS THAT THEY TAKE BEHIND TRUCKS.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

NO PROBLEM.

MM-HMM, , HOW ABOUT JUST DO NOT WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE TO GET OVER NOW STOP YELLOW LIGHTS, DRIVE THE SPEED LIMIT.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY? OKAY, GREAT, THANK YOU.

AND NEXT WE'LL

[ Public Facility Use Policy]

MOVE TO ITEM THREE F, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC FACILITY USE POLICY.

SO, UH, KINDA WHAT I HAD, UH, ASKED SARAH TO DO THIS EVENING.

I KNOW WE HAD A, A, A PRETTY DETAILED DISCUSSION LAST TIME THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND THE CHANGES THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS LOOKING TO MAKE.

AND I KNOW WE ALL KIND OF LOOKED AT DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL PARTS AND PIECES OF THIS.

SO I THINK, UM, IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION THE WAY WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WOULD BE TO, UM, SHE CAN HIT THE HIGH POINTS THINGS THAT SHE, ANY CHANGES THAT SHE MADE BASED ON THE DISCUSSION WE HAD LAST TIME.

THEN AS THEN SHE CAN PRESENT THIS TO JOHN, WE'LL GET THIS POLICIES, UM, THESE UPDATES DISSEMINATED OUT TO COUNSEL, AND THEN WE CAN REVIEW THEM AND THEN COME TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION.

UH, SHE'LL BE HERE WHERE WE CAN POINT OUT ANY CHANGES AT THAT POINT.

THAT WAY WE HAVE SOME TIME TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THIS RATHER THAN KEEPING EVERYONE HERE KIND OF LOOKING AND PICKING APART DIFFERENT THINGS, DIFFERENT PIECES OF THE TIME.

THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE TIME EVEN ABOVE WHAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD IN THE PACKET TO REVIEW AND THAT KIND OF THING.

SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I DID TOLD HER I, I EARLIER, I DIDN'T WANT HER TO BE OFFENDED IF I LOOKED LIKE WE WERE MOVING THROUGH THIS, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT WOULD BE BETTER OFF IF WE HAVE SOME TIME THEN ONCE WE HEAR WHAT SHE'S GONNA SAY ABOUT WHAT SHE'S PUT TOGETHER, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION IF WE HAVE ANY, ANY CHANGES OR, OR ANY CLARIFICATIONS THAT WE NEED AT THAT POINT.

SO, UH, I THINK THAT'D BE THE, THE BEST WAY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, UH, WOULD BE TO HAVE A BROADER DISCUSSION THE NEXT WORK SESSION ONCE SHE'S HAD THE CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THIS.

SO, UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, SARAH, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, UM, YES.

SO THIS IS THE SAME POLICY, UM, FOR THE MOST PART THAT I BROUGHT PREVIOUSLY.

UM, THE PUBLIC FACILITY USE POLICY, THE MOST NOTABLE CHANGE, UM, WAS THAT IN OUR PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT OF GROUP, SHOULD THEY HAVE CONFLICTING AND SIMULTANEOUS REQUESTS, UM, THAT WE NOW HAVE OTHER GOVERNMENTS IN THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, MEANING THE SCHOOLS AND NONPROFITS RANKED TOGETHER.

UM, THAT OF COURSE IS ALWAYS SUPERSEDED BY INDIVIDUALS OR ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE USE AGREEMENTS WITH US.

SO, UM, I THINK IN THE EXAMPLE THAT I GAVE LAST TIME OF, OF THE VARSITY BASEBALL TEAM AND OUR EXISTING SOFTBALL USER GROUP OUT AT CLOUD, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE, THEY HAVE A EXISTING AGREEMENT WITH US, SO THEY WOULD ALWAYS HAVE THAT FIRST CHOICE.

AND THEN, UM, SHOULD THEY FALL OUT OF USING THAT AGREEMENT AND JUST USING US MORE ON A ONE-OFF BASIS, THEN THEY WOULD BE AT EQUAL PAR WITH THE SCHOOLS AND THAT BEING A NONPROFIT AND BEING THE SCHOOLS.

AND THEN WHAT WE WOULD DO IS I WOULD NOT HANDLE THAT DECISION MYSELF.

THEY WOULD BE TIED, I WOULD DEFER TO JOHN.

I'M SURE

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HE WOULD SEEK INSIGHT FROM OTHERS, AND THEN WE WOULD MAKE THAT SORT OF DETERMINATION.

BUT IN MY EXPERIENCE, MOST OF THE TIME, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS PLAY VERY NICELY TOGETHER TOO.

UM, SO THEY END UP WORKING THINGS OUT THEY WANT, THEY KNOW THAT THE ADVANCEMENT OF OTHERS IN THEIR SPORT IS GOOD FOR THEM.

SO SURE, THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN BEEN THE BEST EXAMPLE TO GIVE, BUT THAT IS REALLY THE BIGGEST CHANGE THAT I'VE MADE.

UM, IN THE FEE POLICY, A FEW OF THE FEES HAD BEEN TWEAKED JUST BECAUSE I HAD MY MATH WRONG IN THAT FINAL COLUMN.

AND, UM, THE OTHER NOTABLE CHANGE WOULD BE THE HOMESCHOOL GROUPS ARE NOW INCLUDED, UM, IN THE $10 USE FEE FOR, FOR A CLASSROOM OR INDOOR SPACE.

AND I'VE ALSO NOTED THAT ANYBODY, ANY NONPROFIT OR HOMESCHOOL GROUP WANTING, UM, A MEETING SPACE, MEANING THAT THEY'RE NOT HOLDING SOME PROGRAM THAT'S RAISING A BUNCH OF MONEY FOR THEM OR ANYTHING, BUT THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO HAVE THEIR SCOUT TROOP MEETING, UM, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO, INSTEAD OF PAYING ANYTHING AT ALL, THEY COULD USE SERVICE HOURS, WHICH, UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF TROOPS DOWN AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, AND I THINK IF THEY WERE TO SPLIT UP A FEW PARK CLEANUPS OR SOMETHING, THAT THAT COULD BE A VERY EASY WAY FOR THEM TO OFFSET THIS COST.

AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO THE HOMESCHOOL GROUP, I THINK BETWEEN THE FAMILIES COMING TOGETHER, $10 CAN PROBABLY BE FOUND.

UM, I DO LIKE TO CHARGE SOME THINGS SO THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SKIN IN THE GAME SO THAT WE DON'T GET STOOD UP AND, UM, SO THAT WE HAVE, UM, A REASON TO HAVE INTERACTION WITH THIS PERSON BEFORE THEY COME AND THEY LEARN EXPECTATIONS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

OKAY.

GREAT.

I THINK THAT WAS, UH, THE BIGGEST, THOSE WERE THE CHANGES.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AWESOME.

SO YEAH, NO, THAT, I MEAN, I THINK WE ARE LONG OVERDUE FOR I THINK A POLICY LIKE THIS.

I THINK ALL OF US HAD HAD KIND OF GONE THROUGH THAT AND CERTAINLY EXPRESSED THAT, UH, WHEN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE.

UM, BUT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, IF SOMEONE DOES HAVE, YOU KNOW, A REAL RELEVANT QUESTION BASED ON JUST THOSE COUPLE ITEMS, UH, CERTAINLY FEEL FREE TO ASK.

UH, WE'LL HAVE THIS BACK AT A WORK SESSION ONCE EVERYONE'S HAD TIME TO REVIEW AND GO THROUGH EVERYTHING.

AND THEN WE WILL FINALIZE THIS AT THE MEETING FOLLOWING, UH, THE NEXT WORK SESSION.

BUT DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING, UH, FOR SARAH HERE THIS EVENING REGARDING, REGARDING THIS? YES, DON, JUST ONE.

I WOULD JUST, UM, SECOND TO MAYOR ON LONG OVERDUE, BUT I THINK YOU NAILED IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU DID A GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU.

THANKS, DON.

OKAY, SO, UM, SO WE'LL JUST BRING THIS BACK ONE MORE, ONE MORE WORK SESSION AND WE'LL HAVE, UH, UM, ANY COMMENTS OR RECOMMENDED CHANGES OR ANYTHING AT THAT POINT IN TIME, AND THEN WE WILL MOVE THAT FORWARD TO THE NEXT, TO THE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY.

SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AGAIN, SIR, UH, REGARDING THIS.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 3G

[ Economic Development Plan - Authentix TIF District]

NEXT, WHICH IS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE, UH, AUTHENTIC TIF DISTRICT.

KAI.

UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

UH, SO THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET, RELATES TO THE AUTHENTIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

UM, MOST OF YOU MAY ALSO BE FAMILIAR WITH CONTINENTAL, AS THAT WAS THE ENTITY THAT INITIALLY APPROACHED THE CITY ABOUT, UH, THE LAND ACQUISITION FOR THE PROJECT.

UH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN SERVES TO SATISFY THE OHIO REVISED CODE, UH, WHICH REQUIRES THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO SHOW, SHOW PROOF THAT THE DISTRICT IN QUESTION HAS INADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THIS PLAN, UH, RELATES TO A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF MARKET RATE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BEHIND THE MEADOWS SHOPPING CENTER.

UH, IF YOU CAN REMEMBER BACK TO NOVEMBER OF 2023, STAFF, UH, PRESENTED A, UH, A TIFF DISTRICT, UH, WITH THE MEADOW SHOPPING CENTER, WHICH INCLUDED AT THE TIME THREE SMALL PARCELS, UH, ONE BEING THE, THE MEADOW SHOPPING CENTER, AS WELL AS DOGTOWN.

UH, DURING THAT PRESENTATION, UH, STAFF, UH, MADE MENTION THAT THERE WERE ADDITIONAL PARCELS THAT WERE LEFT OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR TIF DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY PRESENTED, UH, ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, UH, FOR FOLLOW UP, UH, TIF DISTRICTS.

UH, THIS, UH, IS, UH, SUCH AN EXAMPLE TO KIND OF GO ON WITH THAT STRATEGIC PLAN.

UH, SO THE AUTHENTICS, UH, TIF DISTRICT WOULD BE ESTABLISHED ONCE THE ORDINANCE, UH, FOR THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN WOULD BE PASSED.

UH, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO, UH, MAKE NOTE OF IS WHEN WE ESTABLISH THIS TIF DISTRICT, IT WILL COVER A LOT OF THE EXPENSES, UH, THAT GOES INTO THE PROJECT SUCH AS THE, UH, THE MEADOWS PARK DRIVE, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THE AUTHENTIC, UH, PROJECT.

UM, THE REVENUES FOR THIS PROJECT, UH, THE TH 30 YEAR TOTAL REVENUE BENEFIT TO THE CITY IS PROJECTED TO BE ABOUT 4.4 MILLION.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THE, UH, $750,000 THAT, UH, AUTHENTICS HAS PAID TO THE CITY FOR, FOR THE LAND ACQUISITION.

UH, ADDITIONALLY IMPROVEMENTS WILL INCLUDE ALL PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT DIRECTLY BENEFIT THE INCENTIVE DIS INCENTIVE DISTRICT.

UM, THAT'S DETAILED IN THE CITYWIDE INFRASTRUCTURE RELIANT STUDY THAT'S ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

UM, I'LL BE HAPPY

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AT THIS TIME TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING, UH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

OKAY, THANKS KAI.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WILL THERE BE A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, MONDAY ON THIS? I'M SORRY, WHAT'S THAT? WILL THERE BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON MONDAY? UH, YES.

SO ON MONDAY, THE, THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE, UH, WILL, WILL TAKE PLACE AND A PUBLIC HEARING? NO, NO, THE, THE PUBLIC.

SO THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL NOT BE SCHEDULED.

SO ONCE THE UH, ORDINANCE IS ESTABLISHED, THAT WILL ACTUALLY, UM, ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, PROPOSING THE ACTUAL T DISTRICT.

AND IF, UH, THAT GOES TO PLAN, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT PARTICULAR LEGISLATION IS SCHEDULED TO HAPPEN IN SEPTEMBER.

OKAY.

SO WE DON'T NEED A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS? NO.

ALRIGHT.

NO, THIS, UH, THANK YOU TONY.

UH, THIS, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY THE, UH, ONE OF THE VERY FIRST STEPS IN A SOMEWHAT OF A LENGTHY PROCESS, UM, OF ACTUALLY ESTABLISHING TO TIP THE TIF DISTRICT.

UM, THE LEGISLATION COMING BEFORE YOU ON MONDAY IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THEN ONCE THAT'S ESTABLISHED, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, UH, ACTUAL RESOLUTION FOR THE TIF DISTRICT.

OKAY? OKAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY? OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE H, WHICH IS BOARD AND

[ Board And Commission Appointments * Parks And Recreation Board Appointment]

COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS.

TONY, UH, JUST HAVE ONE THIS EVENING.

IT'S AN APPOINTMENT TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD.

UM, THE CITY'S INTERVIEW PANEL RECOMMENDS THE APPOINTMENT OF CASEY TAYLOR TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD FOR RETURNING MARCH 31ST, 2027.

THE BACKGROUND CHECK HAS BEEN PROCESSED SUCCESSFULLY ON MS. TAYLOR THROUGH HR AND, UH, WITH COUNSEL'S APPROVAL.

I'D LIKE TO PUT A MOTION ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY.

OKAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE THAT ON TO MONDAY.

AND, UH, THAT'S EVERYTHING FOR THE AGENDA.

SO BEFORE WE ADJOURN, WE DO HAVE A NEED FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING.

UH, TONY, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.

OKAY.

UH, BE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR TWO REASONS.

THE FIRST TO CONSIDER THE DISMISSAL OR DISCIPLINE OF A PUBLIC OFFICIAL UNDER PERSONNEL MATTERS.

AND THE SECOND REASON BEING, UH, TO CONSIDER THE SALE OR OTHER DISPOSITION OF UNNEEDED PROPERTY BY COMPETITIVE BID.

IS THERE A MOTION DON MOVE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? I UNMUTE.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

MS. BAKER? YES.

MR. CAMPBELL? YES.

MRS. VERGE? YES.

MR. AKENS? YES.

MR. LOONEY? YES.

MRS. KITCHEN? YES.

MR. WEBB? YES.

MR. DAVISON? YES.

OKAY.

MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION CARRIES, UH, EIGHT TO ZERO.

ONCE WE LEAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION, IF ANY ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN, WE WILL COME OUT AND LET EVERYONE KNOW.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IT IS NOW SEVEN 15.

WE ARE MOVING TO EXECUTIVE SECTION.

WE READY? OKAY.

IT'S 7 45.

WE'VE COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, DISCUSSING THOSE TWO MATTERS.

UH, THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC ACTION ITEMS TAKEN.

UM, NOW I WOULD, UH, ASK FOR ANOTHER MOTION, UH, TO DISCUSS PERSONNEL MATTERS, UH, FOR EXECUTIVE SESSIONS ATTORNEY IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.

SO IT'D BE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER THE APPOINTMENT OR EMPLOYMENT OF PUBLIC EMPLOYEES OR OFFICIALS.

THERE A MOTION MARK? SO, OKAY.

SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION MR. CAMPBELL? YES.

MRS. BURGE? YES.

MR. AKINS? YES.

MR. LOONEY? YES.

MRS. KITCHEN? YES.

MR. WEBB? YES.

MR. DAVIDSON? YES.

MS. BAKER? YES.

OKAY.

THE MOTION CARRIES EIGHT ZERO.

SO WE WILL COME BACK AND I WANNA KNOW IF ANY ACTION WAS TAKEN THEN.

1, 2, 3, 4.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE GOOD.

YOU READY? OKAY.

IT IS NOW 8 25 AND WE'VE COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AND NO ACTION WAS TAKEN.

SO AT 8 25 THIS EVENING, THIS WORK SESSION IS ADJOURNED.