[1. Call Meeting To Order/Roll Call]
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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF HUBBERT HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION.
TODAY'S DATE IS FEBRUARY 6TH, 2024.
WE ARE GETTING STARTED RIGHT AT 6:00 PM THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDER THIS EVENING.
SO, MR. ROGERS, IF YOU WOULD CALL THE RULE, PLEASE.
[2. Approval Of Minutes]
APPROVAL OF MINUTES.ITEM TWO A ARE THE MINUTES FROM JANUARY 16TH, 2024.
THOSE MINUTES HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED.
ANY CORRECTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THOSE MINUTES? SEEING NONE, THOSE MINUTES WILL STAND AS APPROVED.
AND NEXT IS THE REASON WE'RE HERE, AND THAT'S ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS OUR TOPICS OF DISCUSSION THIS EVENING.
[ City Manager Report]
WITH ITEM THREE A, WHICH IS OUR CITY MANAGER REPORT.UH, WANTED TO START BY GIVING COUNSEL AN UPDATE ON THE IT DIRECTOR SEARCH.
UH, WE CONDUCTED INTERVIEWS LAST WEEK AND WE'LL DO FINAL INTERVIEWS WITH THREE CANDIDATES, UH, NEXT FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 16TH.
UM, WE DO EXPECT TO HAVE AN OFFER, UH, THE FOLLOWING WEEK, AND A START DATE IN MID-MARCH.
UM, I DID SPEAK WITH THE IT TEAM THIS MORNING.
UH, THEY ARE HOPING THAT EVERYTHING, EVEN THE MINOR SOFTWARE ITEMS IN THE CITY SHOULD BE COMPLETED, AND WE SHOULD BE COMPLETELY BACK TO NORMAL BY THE END OF FEBRUARY.
UM, BRIAN FILLED ME IN THAT, UH, THE DEMOLITION OF THE NORTH BUILDING AT CR DAYTON, UH, IS DELAYED BY THE GAS COMPANY.
UH, THEY WILL BE OUT NEXT WEEK TO CUT THE GAS.
UH, THE FIRE DIVISION WILL TRAIN THE WEEK AFTER, AND THEN DEMO, UH, SHOULD BE COMPLETED THE WEEK OF FEBRUARY 25TH.
UM, I WANNA THANK OFFICERS, UH, DREW INGER AND JOE SANCHEZ, UH, FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND AT OUR POLICE DIVISION.
AS MANY OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SEEN, UH, AFTER A FOUR YEAR OLD'S GIFTS WERE STOLEN, UH, IN AN INCIDENT THAT THEY RESPONDED TO, UH, THEY DID PROCEED TO REPLACE THOSE STOLEN GIFTS.
SO, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY I APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS TO REALLY PROJECT A POSITIVE IMAGE FOR OUR CITY AND OUR POLICE DIVISION.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST ITEM TODAY, UH, I KNOW A NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE, UH, HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT LEAD PIPES IN OUR WATER SYSTEM.
UH, I DO WANNA ASSURE EVERYBODY THAT THERE ARE NO LEAD PIPES IN THE CITY'S PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM.
UH, THE CITY DID CONDUCT AN EPA MANDATED STUDY TO CONFIRM THIS IN 2017.
UH, THEY UPDATED, UH, STAFF UPDATED THE WATERLINE MAP IN 2022, AND THIS YEAR, UH, WE WILL COMPLETE, UH, EPA MANDATED REVIEW OF SERVICE LINES ON THE CUSTOMER SIDE OF THE METER.
SO, UH, WE STILL DON'T EXPECT TO FIND ANY LEAD IN THAT SYSTEM, BUT I WANNA TURN IT OVER TO RUSS TO MAYBE GIVE A LITTLE RUNDOWN OF, UH, THAT TOPIC.
YEAH, I THINK YOU PRETTY MUCH SAID MOST OF IT THOUGH.
THE TOPIC, I GUESS, BASICALLY IS THE SERVICE LINE FROM THE METER TO THE HOUSE.
UH, SO FAR, UM, ONE OF MY INSPECTORS HAS WORKED WITH THE WATER COMPANY FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
HE STARTED AS AN INSPECTOR ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, BUT HE'S BEEN OUT AND SEEN MANY OF THE, UH, METER PITS.
HE'S BEEN IN 'EM, AND HE'S NEVER SEEN A LEAD LINE GOING TO A HOUSE.
UH, WHEN HUBER BUILT ALL THE HOMES, THEY PUT COPPER IN FROM THE, FROM THE, UH, METER PIT TO THE HOUSE.
SO THE ONLY, AND SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE.
'CAUSE, UH, TYPICALLY HE'S ALWAYS FOUND PVC OR, OR, UM, UH, COPPER.
SO, UM, I WAS GONNA SAY, IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS, WE'RE GONNA BE REPLACING, UH, ALL OF OUR WATER METERS.
AND WHEN WE DO THAT, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THE COMPANY THAT IS DOING IT IS GONNA KEEP A RECORD OF WHAT'S IN EACH PIT ON EACH SIDE OF THE METER, BECAUSE THEY CAN LOOK IN AND SEE WHAT TYPE OF PIPE IT IS.
THAT WAY WE CAN VERIFY THE WHOLE CITY AT THAT POINT.
BUT WE'RE PRETTY SURE THAT WE'VE NEVER COME ACROSS A LEAD SERVICE LINE IN THE CITY.
SO, AND IF SOMEBODY, I WAS GONNA SAY, IF SOMEBODY KNOWS OR THINKS THEY HAVE ONE, JUST LET US KNOW AND WE'LL COME OUT AND LOOK AT IT.
WE HAVE SOME, UH, SOME, WHAT I MIGHT CALL HISTORICAL BUILDINGS HERE.
UM, LIKE THERE'S, I, THERE'S AT LEAST ONE OUT ON ENDICOTT, AND THEN THE, UM, THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CALL IT NOW, THAT BIG BUILDING DOWN ON BELL FOUNTAIN AND, AND I THINK THEY'RE VAN, HUH? VAN CLEVE HOUSE, UM, AND SOME OTHER PLACES AROUND TOWN.
HAVE WE LOOKED AT THOSE? I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE LOOKED AT THOSE IN PARTICULAR, BUT, UH, SCOTT, OUR INSPECTOR HAS BEEN GOING AROUND FOR THE LAST SIX WEEKS GOING AROUND TO EVERY SUBDIVISION LOOKING IN AT LEAST A FEW OF EVERY METER PIT TO CHECK.
AND I KNOW HE IS GONE TO NUMEROUS, UH, COMMERCIAL BUILDERS, BUT, UH, I CAN CLARIFY WHETHER WE CHECK THOSE.
BUT LIKE I SAID, MOST OF THE TIME IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN COPPER.
I WOULDN'T EXPECT IT ON BUILD, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENTS OR BUILDINGS IN THE LAST 50 YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT RIGHT.
BUT I'M THINKING MORE IN TERMS OF THE HISTORICAL, THE ONES HAVE BEEN AROUND FROM, WE CAN CHECK THOSE.
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ACTUALLY FOR THIS, UH, UH, REPORT THAT'S DUE IN FALL WITH EPA, UH, IT'S A
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BIG SPREADSHEET OF ALL PROPERTIES, AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LIST EVERYTHING ON THOSE.SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO FILL THAT OUT TO GET IT ALL COMPLETED BY FALL.
AND LAST THING IS, IS ANYBODY WHO IS CONCERNED, UH, YOU CAN PICK UP A LEAD TEST AT MOST, UH, HARDWARE STORES AND, AND DO THAT YOURSELF.
IF YOU FIND ANYTHING, YOU CAN CALL THE CITY, BUT WE WOULDN'T EXPECT THERE TO BE ANY LEAD IN THE WATER.
MAYOR RICK, OR RUSS, COULD YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA ANSWER THIS, BUT I'LL JUST PUT THE QUESTION OUT THERE.
I'VE SEEN PEOPLE COMMENT ABOUT THEIR WATER LOOKS OILY.
IS IT APPROPRIATE TO REFER THEM TO CALL THE WATER DEPARTMENT? IS THAT ACCEPTABLE TO YOU? IT WOULD BE FINE.
UH, I DID SEND A FEW REASONS FOR THAT FROM PAM OVER AT OUR WATER PLANT.
LET ME SEE IF I CAN TRACK THOSE DOWN REALLY QUICK.
IF YOU'LL JUST SEND IT OUT TO US.
AND THEN, AND THEN IS IT APPROPRIATE THOUGH, TO REDIRECT THE CITIZENS TO CALL THE WATER DEPARTMENT? IS THAT ACCURATE? YEAH, THAT'S THE BEST THING.
AND UH, MOST OF THE TIME THEY FOUND THAT PROBLEMS LIKE THAT ARE WITHIN THE HOME, NOT THE SYSTEM ITSELF.
ANITA, WILL ALL THIS BE DONE IN TIME, THAT IF THERE IS A PROBLEM THAT WE CAN APPLY FOR THOSE FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT ARE COMING IN TO FIX THIS, UH, I'M ASSUMING BY FALL THOSE DOLLARS WOULD STILL BE AVAILABLE, UH, IF WE FIND SOME, I, I HATE TO APPLY FOR SOME NOW IF WE HAVEN'T EVEN FOUND ONE YET THAT YOU MAY BE PLANNING AND THEN HAVE TO TURN IT DOWN LATER.
BUT, UM, I'LL CHECK IN TO SEE HOW LONG THAT FUNDING IS GOOD FOR TO SEE WHETHER BY FALL, WHETHER WE'RE GONNA NEED TO APPLY OR NOT, BECAUSE I WOULD JUST HATE FOR OKAY.
WE DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THERE, BUT THEN THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING THERE AND THEN WE'VE MISSED OUT ON THE, THAT MONEY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? YES, MARK, COME BACK TO THAT.
OBVIOUSLY BEING A RESIDENT, I, IS THERE AN ISSUE WITH LEAD IN THE PIPES? NO, I THINK, AGAIN, I MEAN, I THINK WHAT WE'VE FOUND OUT IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, MR. HUBER NEVER USED LEAD LINES IN THE SERVICE LINES.
WE KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY ON THE CITY SIDE.
WHICH IS FROM THE MAIN TO THE METER.
UM, AND THEN FROM, WE DON'T KNOW OF ANY, FROM THE METER INTO THE ACTUAL HOUSE.
UH, SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP, WHEN THEY PUT THE COPPER IN, DID THEY USE LEAD TO SOLDIER THE PIPES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, I DON'T, THAT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY, BUT I THINK THE LEVELS OF LEAD IN THAT CASE ARE SO LOW THAT IT WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.
WE'VE HAD A, THEY DO SAMPLING THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND, UH, ONCE OR TWICE THEY'VE HAD IT WHERE THE LEAD, THEY SHOWED LEAD ON THE, UH, THE SAMPLE, BUT THEN THEY'VE RETESTED AND THEN THERE WASN'T THERE.
SO, BUT, UH, LIKE I SAID, 8 19 87, THAT'S WHEN THEY REQUIRED, UH, I GUESS IT WAS EPH REQUIRED NO MORE LEAD BEING USED EVEN IN SOLDER.
SO WE KNOW OF 87 TILL NOW, THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY, BUT UH, BEFORE THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY TELL FOR SURE.
SO, YEAH, SO I THINK IT, IT IS JUST NOT A, UH, DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S AN ISSUE.
AND WE KNOW THE 27 PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE REPORT AND MAPPING OF THE LINES WAS DONE IN 27.
UH, EPA NOTIFIED THE CITY IN OCTOBER OF 23, THAT THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER REPORT UPDATE DUE IN OCTOBER OF 24.
AND THAT'S WHAT RUSS HAD MENTIONED, THAT WE'VE GOT AN INSPECTOR WHO HAS ACTUALLY BEEN OUTTA THE LAB THE LAST SIX WEEKS, UM, INSPECTING DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS IN DIFFERENT AREAS.
AND IF WE FIND SOMETHING, WE WOULD CERTAINLY LET SOMEONE KNOW OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU HAD JUST MENTIONED WE'RE GONNA BE REPLACING ALL THE WATER METERS, RIGHT? OVER THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS YEAH.
WE'LL, SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, IF, WHEN WE'RE DIGGING THE PIT, WE FIND ANYTHING OR ANY LEAD FROM THE METER TO THE HOUSE, WE CAN TAKE CARE OF IT THEN.
I THINK, UH, RICK HAS ADDRESSED THE ISSUE THAT IF SOMEONE DOES BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE AN ISSUE, OR IF THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING LEAD IN ANY OF THEIR PIPES OR THEIR WATER, THEY CAN GO TO LOWE'S OR ANY ONE OF THE HARDWARE STORES, BUY A LEAD TEST KIT.
AND IF THE LEVELS ARE CONCERNING, THEY CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH US AND LET US KNOW, AND THEN WE CAN INVESTIGATE THAT FURTHER.
BUT I THINK WITH ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE, KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT HOW MR. HUBER BUILT THE HOMES, WHAT WAS DONE FROM THE MAIN LINE TO THE METER, UH, I, I, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY REASON FOR CONCERN AT THIS POINT.
SO, SO RUSS, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TESTED IN THE PAST AND IT WAS POSITIVE FOR LEAD.
WELL, THEY, THEY TEST ALL THE TIME, AND I THINK IT SHOWED UP ONCE OR TWICE, BUT THEY RETESTED AND IT WASN'T, THERE WASN'T ANYTHING THERE.
ONE WAS AT THE SCHOOL, AND, UH, IT WAS, THEY FELT IT WAS BECAUSE THE SCHOOL WAS, IT WAS RIGHT WHEN THE END OF SUMMER, THERE WAS THREE MONTHS WHERE HARDLY ANYBODY USING ANY WATER, AND THEY COULD THINK MAYBE THE SOLDER COULD HAVE HAD EFFECT.
BUT WHEN THEY TESTED AFTER THEY RAN THE WATER, IT WAS FINE.
AND, AND MY QUESTION IS, WHEN WAS THAT ABOUT WHEN, UH, UH, A MONTH AGO AGO? NO, WE'RE LOOKING TWO, THREE YEARS AGO.
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THE TIME NOW, SO, OKAY.JUST, SO, UM, I THINK YOU HAD SAID YOU HAD, HAD, YOU AND YOUR STAFF HAD, DID ACTUALLY TRAVEL AND GO MEET WITH SOME OF THE EPA OFFICIALS AND GO OVER THOSE REPORTS AND THE FINDINGS AND ALL THAT.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU JUST ADDRESS THAT? UH, AFTER THE 2017 FIRST REQUIREMENT, WE CREATED A MAP.
AND, UH, WHEN WE COMPLETED THAT, WE MET WITH EPA DOWNTOWN.
AND, UH, THEY REVIEWED IT ALL.
AND REALLY, THEY THOUGHT OURS WAS REALLY GOOD COMPARED TO A LOT OF CITIES DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS OF THE PEOPLE TO DO IT, BUT, UH, THEY WERE REALLY HAPPY WITH WHAT WE HAD.
SO, AND THEY SAID EVERYTHING WAS FINE WITH OUR SYSTEM.
AND I THINK IN RELATION TO OUR CITY, WE'RE, WE'RE FAIRLY YOUNG IN RELATION TO A LOT OF THE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE AROUND.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT WAS PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, DAYTON I THINK IS PROBABLY GONNA HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH SOME OF, YOU KNOW, HOW OLD SOME OF THOSE SECTIONS ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME OF THOSE HOUSES.
'CAUSE, YOU KNOW, LEAD WAS USED, YOU KNOW, BACK THEN.
SO, UH, I THINK IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, WE ARE PROBABLY IN A MUCH, MUCH, MUCH BETTER CONDITION OR MUCH BETTER SHAPE THAN, THAN EVEN SOME OF OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES THAT, THAT DO HAVE SOME OF THOSE MORE OLDER, MORE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN AREAS.
THIS MIGHT SOUND REALLY STUPID.
YOU MADE THE COMMENT THAT IT TESTED POSITIVE AT A SCHOOL THAT WASN'T IN THING.
WELL, IF THERE WAS NO LEAD, WHETHER THE SCHOOL HAD BEEN RUNNING OR NOT, SHOULD IT HAVE EVER TESTED POSITIVE? IF, WELL, THEY DON'T KNOW.
THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TEST JUST CAME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS TESTED WRONG OR SHOWED SOMETHING THAT, BUT WHEN THEY RETESTED, IT WASN'T THERE.
SO, UM, THEY, THAT WAS THEIR THEORY, BECAUSE THEY DID IT AT THE END OF THE SUMMER WHEN NOBODY WAS THERE.
THEY THOUGHT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, OVER TIME, NOBODY USING THE WATER THAT COULD HAVE GOT SOME IN IT, BUT THAT KIND OF WENT AWAY AFTER THEY RETESTED IT.
BUT IT IS JUST, THAT WAS JUST ONE, I WAS JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT IT HAD HAPPENED BEFORE.
THERE WERE A FEW TIMES WHERE THE SAMPLE CAME BACK AND WHEN THEY RETESTED IT, IT WAS FINE.
BRIAN, I JUST, A QUICK, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU SAID IT, BUT WHEN THEY RETESTED, WHAT WAS THE TIME TIMING IN BETWEEN? UH, THEY, UH, WELL AT THE SCHOOL IT WAS WITHIN A FEW DAYS.
THEY RAN THE WATER FOR A WHILE AND THEN THEY RETESTED IT.
BUT, UH, AT HOMES, IF IT EVER HAPPENS WITHIN TWO OR THREE DAYS, THEY GO BACK AND TEST IT.
ANYTHING ELSE, JOHN? WELL, YOU KNOW, I'D JUST LIKE TO JUMP IN HERE AND GIVE YOU ALL MY EXPERIENCE WITH LEAD PIPE, UM, BECAUSE PRETTY SURE I'M THE ONLY PERSON UP HERE ON THE DIOCESE RIGHT NOW THAT HAS ACTUALLY WORKED WITH LEAD PIPE.
THE CITY OF DAYTON HAS MANY, MANY NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, A LOT OF, UH, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT WERE SERVICED WITH LEAD PIPE.
WE ARE INDEED FORTUNATE THAT WE ARE A YOUNG CITY, AND THAT MR. HUBER AND HIS BUILDING DID NOT USE LEAD SERVICE.
UM, AS AN ASIDE, I, I WAS THE LAST CLASS OF, UH, LICENSED CITY OF DAYTON PLUMBERS TO EVER HAVE TO DO A REPAIR ON A LEAD PIPE.
UH, BECAUSE THAT WAS 1978, AND EVEN IN 78, WE KNEW LEAD PIPE WAS, UM, NOT GOOD FOR YOU, NOT HEALTHY.
SO THE, UM, I THINK IT CAME DOWN 86 FOR THE, FOR THE 87.
AND THEN 87 WHEN THE MANDATE APPLIED.
SO, UM, MARK, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, DO WE HAVE, UM, LEAD IN OUR SYSTEM, IN OUR WATER SYSTEM? THE ANSWER, THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO, WE DO NOT.
NOW, I CAN'T SPEAK TO A FARMHOUSE THAT MIGHT BE OUT OFF OF, UH, CHAMBERSBURG OR BELL FOUNTAIN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THOSE WERE ALL PUT IN BY THE OWNERS.
BUT AS FAR AS THE CITY GOES, WE HAVE NO, NO CITYWIDE LEAD ISSUE.
AND, UH, RUSS, I WOULD ASK YOU TO SPEAK TO THE TESTING THAT'S BEEN DONE.
UM, WE, WE TEST OUR WATER FREQUENTLY, RIGHT? YEAH.
THEY GO OUT, THEY HAVE NUMEROUS SITES THEY GO TO ALL THE TIME TO TEST THE WATER RIGHT OUT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY.
HAS LEAD SHOWN UP AS ANY OF A CONCERN? ANY OF THOSE TESTS? NO.
LIKE I SAID, A FEW, A FEW TIMES, THE, A SMALL DEGREE OF LEAD SHOWED UP, BUT THEN THEY WENT BACK AND THEN EITHER THE TEST WAS NOTHING WRONG, OR IT JUST DIDN'T SHOW UP ON THE NEXT TIME THEY TESTED.
SO, AND TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT SOLDERED PIPES, COPPER, UM, PIPES THAT ARE SOLDERED, YES, THERE WAS A, UH, 50 50, UM, LEAD TIN SOLDER THAT WAS VERY POPULAR, WAS MY FAVORITE, UM, THAT WAS USED ON COPPER PIPE.
HOWEVER, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW A COPPER PIPE AND A COPPER FITTING GO TOGETHER.
THERE'S VERY LITTLE OF THAT THAT SEES EXPOSURE TO THE INSIDE OF THE PIPE.
IT'S A SEAL THAT'S DONE AROUND THE PIPE BETWEEN THE PIPE AND FITTING.
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WATER IS CONTINUALLY RUNNING THROUGH A LEAD FITTING.SO, AGAIN, I JUST, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ON SOCIAL MEDIA BACK AND FORTH, BUT THE TRUTH IS, WE ARE IN A VERY FORTUNATE SITUATION IN HUBER HEIGHTS.
WE DON'T HAVE LEAD SERVICE PIPES.
I BELIEVE THE CITY OF DAYTON IS GONNA SEE SIGNIFICANT REMEDIATION, UH, COSTS AND CHALLENGES OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, BECAUSE I'VE WORKED IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD IS LEAD PIPE SERVICE.
SO, AND THAT'S A LITTLE HISTORY OF DON AND PLUMBING.
ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.
[ Culture And Diversity Citizen Action Commission Update]
ITEM THREE B, WHICH IS A CULTURE, CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION UPDATE.UH, WE HAVE SOME REPRESENTATIVES HERE FROM THE C-D-C-A-C, UH, TO PROVIDE A UPDATE ON THE COMMISSION'S WORK IN RECENT ONES.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CITY COUNCIL FOR THE INVITATION, WHICH I CAN NEVER SAY CORRECTLY, UH, TO PRESENT THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSIONS UPDATES.
I AM CURRENTLY THE VICE CHAIR OF THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION, AND I WILL BE THE ONE GIVING THE UPDATES THIS EVENING.
UM, I'M GONNA START QUICKLY WITH WHAT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED SINCE THIS COMMISSION WAS ESTABLISHED BY RESOLUTION ON JUNE 22ND, 2020.
UM, AS YOU ARE AWARE, THIS COMMISSION WAS ESTABLISHED TO ACT IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO BUILD UNITY AND CELEBRATE THE CULTURAL AND OTHER DIFFERENCES AMONG COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
WE WERE TASKED WITH THIS WORK DURING A TIME OF INCREASING UNREST AFTER THE DEATH OF GEORGE FLOYD IN MINNEAPOLIS.
AS ONE OF THE INITIAL MEMBERS OF THIS CON COMMISSION, I WAS EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THIS PROACTIVE COMMUNITY WORK TO ENSURE THAT OUR CITY IS EQUITABLE FOR ALL MEMBERS.
UM, AND SO WE HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH OUR FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER OF 2020.
NOT GONNA TAKE YOU ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2020, I PROMISE.
UM, ONE INITIAL RECOMMENDATION WAS TO COMPLETE A COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT, FOCUSING ON DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION.
THIS ANALYSIS, UH, WILL BE USED AS THE FOUNDATION FOR THE CREATION OF A CITYWIDE DEI STRATEGIC PLAN.
WE ARE HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS OUT FOR REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS CURRENTLY, SO THAT WORK IS MOVING FORWARD.
THE COMMISSION INTENDED TO USE THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT OF THE COMMU, OR EXCUSE ME, THE COMMISSION INTENDED TO USE THE RESULTS OF THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT TO BUILD OUR STRATEGY AROUND.
UM, BUT WITH THE UNANTICIPATED DELAYS, WE MOVED FORWARD WITH GOALS AND INITIATIVES THAT WE FELT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE COMMUNITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
UM, ANOTHER INITIATIVE FROM THE BEGINNING OF OUR TIME AS A COMMISSION WAS THE CITIZENS COMPLAINT REVIEW BOARD FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE CCRB IS A COMPLAINT RE RESOLUTION BOARD TO SERVE AS AN IMPARTIAL REVIEWER OF POLICE COMPLAINTS THAT DIRECTLY INVOLVE MATTERS OF RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, SEX, OR NATIONAL ORIGIN.
THE CCRB MATERIALS WERE CREATED AFTER MANY MEETINGS BETWEEN, UM, PREVIOUS INTERIM CITY MANAGER, UH, BRIAN KOWSKI, UH, POLICE CHIEF LIGHTNER, THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, UH, ERIC STEVENS, ERIC RICHARDSON, AND MYSELF.
THE CCRB IMPLE IMPLEMENTATION WAS PART OF THE NINE PART REQUEST MADE BY THE DAYTON NAACP CHAPTER TO ALL SURROUNDING POLICE DEPARTMENTS REQUESTING PROACTIVE IMPLEMENTATION OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM AREAS.
THE CCRB IS OPEN FOR APPLICATIONS CURRENTLY.
SO THAT WAS ANOTHER HUGE THING THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CROSS OFF OF OUR TO-DO LIST.
2024 MARKED THE FIFTH ANNIVERSARY OF THE HUBER HEIGHTS MLK UNITY WALK WALKIN PROGRAM.
UM, THIS EVENT HAS EVOLVED OVER THE YEARS, AND THE COMMISSION WILL CONTINUE TO HOLD THIS EVENT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO INVOLVE THE YOUTH, UM, THE CITY SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND THE BROADER, UH, COMMUNITIES.
SO WE ARE CONSIDERING SOME CHANGES FOR NEXT YEAR'S PROGRAM.
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COME FOR THAT EVENT.UH, IN JUNE, WE ARE GOING TO HOLD, UM, THE JUNETEENTH MUSIC FESTIVAL FOR THE THIRD YEAR ON JUNE 16TH, AND THAT WILL BE FROM FIVE TO 9:00 PM.
THIS EVENT HAS BEEN VERY WELL ATTENDED YEAR TO YEAR, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL PEOPLE FROM THE GREATER DAYTON AREA LOOK FORWARD TO ATTENDING THIS YEAR.
WE WILL KEEP THE SAME FORMAT, AND WE WILL HAVE BOTH FOOD AND RETAIL VENDORS IN ADDITION TO THE EDUCATIONAL PIECE INCLUDED THROUGHOUT THE PROGRAM.
WE ARE ALSO PLANNING ON CONTINUING TO HOLD THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL, WHICH WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 22ND FROM 11 TO FIVE.
UM, AND WILL FEATURE MANY, UM, PRO PERFORMANCES FROM DIVERSE GROUPS AS WELL AS, UH, RETAIL VENDORS AND FOOD.
SO WE ARE ALSO LOOKING TO RECREATE THE EDUCATIONAL FORUMS THAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY HELD.
UM, WE FEEL WE'RE REALLY JUST NOT HITTING THE MARK WITH THE FORUMS AS THEY'VE BEEN HELD.
AND WE'RE LOOKING TO PARTNER, UM, WITH SOME COMMUNITY PARTNERS LIKE SINCLAIR, THE YWCA, UH, HUBER HEIGHTS, CITY, SC SCHOOLS, AND THE METRO LIBRARY.
WE ARE CONSIDERING A COMMUNITY BOOK, READING COMMUNITY GARDEN PROGRAMS, AND OTHER WAYS TO HOLD THESE EVENTS TO GARNER MORE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY.
AS ANY NEW GROUP, I FEEL THAT WE HAVE HAD A FEW STUMBLES WHEN FINDING OUR FOOTING IN THIS WORK FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BUT WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE PART OF AN EVOLVING GROUP WITH A VARIETY OF BACKGROUNDS, WITH A PASSION FOR THIS WORK.
AND THE WORK IS FAR FROM COMPLETE.
SO IN SAYING THAT WE ARE GONNA MAKE SOME STRATEGIC DECISIONS OVER THE NEXT YEAR, THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO SPEND THE MAJORITY OF 2024 RELATIONSHIP BUILDING, UH, EXCUSE ME.
RELATIONSHIP BUILDING COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION TAKES A COLLECTIVE EFFORT.
AND AS A COMMISSION, WE NEED TO TAKE SOME TIME TO MEET, CONNECT WITH, AND LEARN FROM THE DIVERSE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE DIVERSITY AND THE CI, THE CITY AND SOURCE WHAT ISSUES, GOALS, AND INITIATIVES THOSE COMMUNITIES FEEL IS NEEDED.
SO WE WILL HAVE MORE UPDATES TO SHARE ONCE WE HAVE TIME TO MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS AND REALLY SOURCE WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR US FROM A COMMISSION.
ANY QUESTIONS? SO FIRST, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR COMING AND, UM, CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE INVITE TO THE MLK UNITY WALK.
IT WAS A LITTLE BIT COLD THAT DAY,
SO THANKS FOR THE INVITE AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO TO, TO MANY MORE OF THOSE.
WE APPRECIATE, UH, YOU BEING HERE AND TALKING US THROUGH SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M CERTAINLY INTERESTED IN THE, UM, UH, IN, IN THE, THE STRATEGY AND THINGS OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN 2024.
SO I LOOK FORWARD, UH, TO HEARING ABOUT THAT.
UM, I, I TEACH IN A DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICT NOW, AND THERE'S, UH, A VERY INTERESTING, UH, PROGRAM THAT WE'RE DOING THAT, UH, IS INVOLVING THE HIGH SCHOOL FOR, UM, BLACK HISTORY MONTH THAT GOES INTO KIND OF AN EVENING PROGRAM THAT'S BEING PUT ON THROUGH THE SCHOOL.
AND IT'S GOT A LOT OF STUDENTS INVOLVED.
SO I'D LOVE TO GET WITH YOU AND KIND OF SHARE WITH YOU WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UH, THE CURRENT SCHOOL THAT I'M AT NOW MM-HMM.
'CAUSE IF YOU CAN GET YOUNG PEOPLE, I MEAN, IT'S IN FACT, SO IT'S A LOT OF PERFORMANCES.
WE'VE GOT STUDENTS ALMOST, IT'S NOT LIKE A TALENT SHOW, BUT THERE ARE STUDENTS WHO ARE ACTUALLY AUDITIONING TO PERFORM MM-HMM.
AND WHETHER IT'S POETRY AND READINGS AND SLAM POETRY, AND IT'S ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT EVENTS THE STUDENTS ARE GETTING INVOLVED IN.
AND IT'S BEING HELD ACTUALLY IN THE AUDITORIUM AT OUR HIGH SCHOOL.
SO, UH, I THINK THAT'S A, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT I'D LOVE TO SHARE WITH YOU KINDA WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE AND SEE IF MAYBE THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED, UM, TO, TO HELP GET SOME OF THE STUDENTS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE STUDENTS ARE INVOLVED AND THAT GETS THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED AND THEIR PARENTS.
AND I THINK, I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING.
UM, IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN AT THE SCHOOL I'M AT NOW.
I THINK IT'S A, I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE TRY TO IMPLEMENT HERE.
WE, WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS AND, AND THE KIND OF, THE ISSUE IS THERE'S A, THERE'S A WANT AND A NEED FOR THIS WORK, BUT WE'RE ALL DOING IT IN SILOS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO WORK IN A SILO IN THE CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT TO WORK IN A SILO, WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT BROADER COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT INTO THESE GOALS AND INITIATIVES.
SO, UM, WITH THE MLK PROGRAM, I HAD MET WITH THE, THE PRINCIPAL AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, AND THEY WERE VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN SOME PARTNERSHIP ON SOME IMPACTFUL THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO GARNER A CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
IT'S INTERESTING YOU USE THE WORD SILOS, BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN, UH, WHEN I FIRST MET WITH YOLANDA AND, AND ERIC, UM, REGARDING
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EVEN THE FORMATION OF THIS COMMISSION.AND EVEN THOUGH WE ARE REALLY DIVERSE, WE JUST NEVER HAD THAT CROSS COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT GROUPS.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THOSE SILOS WERE CREATED.
SO, UM, IT'S EXCITING TO HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT THAT AND KIND OF UNDERSTAND THAT'S A POSITION OR A SITUATION THAT WE FIND OURSELVES IN AS A CITY, AS DIVERSE AS WE ARE.
AND, UM, I'M EXCITED AND LOVE TO SEE THAT CROSS COMMUNICATION HAPPEN BETWEEN ALL THE DIFFERENT DIVERSITY GROUPS THAT WE HAVE AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT INCLUDE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BECAUSE, UM, YOU CAN WALK THROUGH THE HALLS OF WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL, YOU CANNOT HAVE AS A DIVERSE POPULATION OF A STUDENT BODY AT A HIGH SCHOOL WITHOUT REALIZING THEY COME FROM DIVERSE FAMILIES.
AND, AND WE HAVE THAT IN THIS COMMUNITY.
SO IT, IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THE SCHOOLS INVOLVED.
THAT WAS HONESTLY ONE OF THE DRAWS FOR ME TO COME TO THIS COMMUNITY.
I GREW UP IN A NOT DIVERSE, UH, AREA, UH, SOUTH OF DAYTON.
AND, UM, AS A SOCIAL WORKER, AS A PARENT, IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT I REALLY WANTED FOR MY CHILD TO GROW UP WITH DIVERSITY, BECAUSE DIVERSITY BRINGS RICHNESS AND DIVERSITY BRINGS A CH A A DIFFERENCE IN A OPINION.
AND SOMETIMES THAT DIFFERENCE OF OPINION COULD BE SOMETHING WE NEVER CONSIDERED OURSELVES.
SO, UM, I'LL, I'LL JUST USE AN EXAMPLE OF, WE HAD CREATED A FLYER AND, UH, JEFFREY POINTED OUT IT WAS NOT A DA COMPLIANT, AND EVEN AS A SOCIAL WORKER, THAT WAS NOT A LENS THAT I HAD EVER LOOKED THROUGH.
SO EVEN IN MY FORTIES, WE'RE ALL GROWING.
IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S AN EVOLVING THING.
SO, UM, I THINK AS A COMMISSION, WE WERE REALLY READY TO GO AND HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WHEN WE STARTED.
BUT KIND OF THE FIRST TENET OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION IS GET TO KNOW YOUR COMMUNITY.
AND WE GOT, WE HAVE TO WORK BACKWARDS NOW, AND WE NEED TO CONNECT WITH ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND REALLY FIND OUT WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE FROM OUR CITY.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD FROM, FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT, THAT MOVE HERE AND MM-HMM.
AND I THINK A LOT OF PARENTS AND, AND ADULTS ARE UNDERSTANDING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WANT THEIR CHILDREN TO BE INVOLVED IN A DIVERSE COMMUNITY BECAUSE AS THEY GROW UP, AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT'S THE ENRICHMENT, THAT'S THE EXPOSURE.
BECAUSE AS THEY GROW OLDER AND THEY GO TO WORK, STUDENTS AREN'T GONNA BE WORKING WITH PEOPLE WHO JUST LOOK LIKE THEMSELVES ANYMORE.
THAT IS NOT THE WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN.
AND, AND IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT, UM, THAT, THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND I, AND I DO THINK THAT, UH, AS DIVERSE AS CITY AS WE ARE, I THINK THAT IS ABSOLUTELY A REASON THAT WE HAVE SUCH A HUGE DRAW FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE STILL TALK ABOUT, THAT'S SORT OF ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THEY WANTED TO MOVE TO COOPER HEIGHTS.
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE VERY, VERY PROUD OF AS WE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
THERE'S, THERE'S ONE RECOMMENDATION THAT'S ON THE TABLE THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GONNA SAY NOW WE'LL PULL BACK AND I'M GONNA BRING BACK TO YOU IN 2025.
AND THAT RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE CITY TO TAKE SOME OWNERSHIP IN CELEBRATING THE DIVERSITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, CITYWIDE CELEBRATIONS OF THE NATIONAL HERITAGE MONTH, BLACK HISTORY MONTH, HOW ARE WE IN HUBER HEIGHTS GOING TO CELEBRATE BLACK HISTORY MONTH? OR HOW ARE WE AS HUBER HEIGHTS GOING TO CELEBRATE WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH? OR, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO AS WE GO OUT AND, AND SPEAK TO THESE GROUPS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO THESE HERITAGE MONTHS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO REDO THAT RECOMMENDATION.
BUT THAT'S REALLY THE VISION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MOVING FORWARD IS A BROAD, THIS IS OUR CITY'S WAY OF CELEBRATING DIVERSITY.
AND IT'S, AND IT'S ON THE FOREFRONT, AND IT'S A CELEBRATED AS MUCH AS OUR PARENTS THAT WANTED TO MOVE HERE FOR IT.
I, I CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO ANY OF THOSE COMMUNICATIONS AND IDEAS AND, AND, AND THOUGHTS.
UM, I'VE GOT SOME INFORMATION THAT, THAT MAY BE HELPFUL TO YOU.
UM, I HAVEN'T BRIEFED COUNSEL ON THIS YET, BUT I'M GOING TO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW MONTGOMERY COUNTY OR, UH, DAYTON HAS A WELCOME, UH, DAYTON COMMITTEE.
AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY HELP NEW IMMIGRANTS COME IN AND, AND ASSIMILATE, UH, FIND THE RESOURCES THEY NEED.
UM, AND FROM THAT GROUP, THEY DID A SPINOFF.
AND, AND SO NOW I'M PART OF A GROUP THAT IS WELCOME MONTGOMERY COUNTY, AND A BUNCH OF THE COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA HAVE REPRESENTATIVES ON THAT COMMITTEE.
AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING IS, UH, WE ARE HAVING LISTENING SESSIONS IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, INVITING, UM, PEOPLE OF ALL CULTURES, ETHNICITIES, EVERYTHING TO COME IN AND SHARE WITH US WHAT THEY NEED FROM OUR RESPECTIVE COMMUNITIES.
AND THE NEXT ONE IS BEING HELD, UM, ON FEBRUARY 15TH
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AT THE MIAMISBURG LIBRARY, UM, FROM SIX TO EIGHT.THEY ALREADY HELD ONE IN RIVERSIDE.
THEY WOULD LIKE HEBREW HEIGHTS TO DO ONE IN MARCH OR APRIL, WHICH WE INTEND TO DO.
AND I'M GOING TO INVOLVE BYRON, UH, IN THE PLANNING ON THAT.
UM, AND, UH, CENTERVILLE'S GOING TO DO ONE.
IT WILL JUST, IT'LL JUST KEEP EVOLVING.
AND THEN I'M ON ANOTHER SUBCOMMITTEE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TRY, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A, A RESOURCE GUIDE, UH, TO HELP PEOPLE, UH, WITH A DIFFERENT, UH, LANGUAGE CHALLENGES AND EVERYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A THING IN WORK, BUT I THINK THAT WE ARE WORKING TOWARD THE SAME GOAL THAT YOU ARE AND YOU WOULD BENEFIT FROM, LET US KNOW ABOUT THAT RESOURCE GUIDE.
'CAUSE THAT WAS ACTUALLY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF.
I HAVE A DH ADHD, AND IF I DON'T SAY IT WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT, IT JUST GOES AWAY.
SO, UM, FOR THE RESOURCE GUIDE, THAT WAS ONE OF THE INITIATIVES WE HAD ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT VERY EARLY ON IN OUR ADVOCACY GROUP.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING A RESOURCE GUIDE, AND THERE IS ONE FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY OR SOMETHING WE WERE GONNA BUILD UPON.
IT'S REALLY NOT COMPREHENSIVE.
IF YOU NEED SOME ASSISTANCE OR TAG US IN, LET US KNOW.
AND, AND THAT'S REALLY NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE ALL THE SOCIAL AGENCIES AND THINGS, BUT YEAH.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S MORE CONCISE, UHHUH
I WAS REALLY SURPRISED AT, AT, AT THE LEVEL AT WHICH IT ENDED UP BEING.
BUT I'M ON A COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW WITH A LADY, A LATINO LADY, A LADY FROM AFRICA.
UM, WELL, I THINK THE OTHER ONE IS FROM, UH, GUATEMALA.
UH, SO WE'RE TRYING, WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH SOME BRAINSTORMING AND STUFF TO PUT THAT RESOURCE GUIDE TOGETHER.
AND IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN QUICKLY, BUT WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS.
UH, BUT AT ANY RATE, UH, WHEN WE DO, WHEN WE DO THE ONE HERE IN HUBER HEIGHTS, UM, I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT FROM, UH, DIFFERENT REPRESENTATIONS ABSOLUTELY.
OF ETHNIC REPRESENTATIONS ABSOLUTELY.
UH, SO THAT WE CAN LEARN EXACTLY, UH, WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM, UM, BE MORE COMFORTABLE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMMUNITY AND MORE ACCEPTING.
AND CAN WE FIND A WAY TO PARTNER ON THAT CONVERSATION? 'CAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KIND OF HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO REPORT BACK.
SO CAN WE, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S FIND A WAY FOR OUR COMMISSION TO WORK WITH CITY COUNCIL ON THOSE, IF IT'S US SETTING THEM UP, IF IT'S US, YOU KNOW, FINDING THE COMMUNITY CENTERS OR THE, THE, YOU KNOW, SOURCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, NOT THAT I'M GONNA SIGN US ALL UP FOR, YOU KNOW, ASSISTING, BUT I'M GONNA SIGN US ALL UP FOR ASSISTING.
SO JUST LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN ASSIST WITH THAT TYPE OF AN INITIATIVE.
IN LINE WITH HOW WE'RE TRYING TO GO FORTH IN 2024.
AND, AND, AND FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, I'M NOT DOING THIS AS A CITY COUNCIL PERSON, BUT I, I WANT TO KEEP THE CITY INFORMED AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THE CITY WOULD HELP US PROMOTE IT SO THAT WE CAN GET THE MAXIMUM PARTICIPATION.
UM, DEFINITELY WE'LL KEEP YOU UP TO DATE ON, ON THOSE THINGS.
AND I THINK IT WILL HELP BOTH OF US.
THANK YOU FOR, UM, THE MARTIN LUTHER KING PROGRAM.
SO WE'RE HAVING JUNE 19TH JUNETEENTH ON JUNE 16TH.
UM, AND IT'S, SO IT'S A FEDERAL HOLIDAY.
WE'RE DOING IT, IT'S A FEDERAL HOLIDAY.
WE'RE NOT DOING IT ON THE FEDERAL HOLIDAY.
WE WERE GOING TO DO, SO
AND THEN THE NEXT SATURDAY WILL BE THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL.
AND THAT'S THE SAME DAY AS THE LOCAL AIR SHOW.
SO IT'S HARD, IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO GET REALLY GOOD VENDORS FOR FOOD.
THERE'S A WHOLE SEPARATE CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FOR THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE STARTED THAT CULTURE WEEK, WE HAD FIVE OR SIX EVENTS IN THAT FIRST WEEK, JULY AND JULY.
AND THEN IF WE CANCEL MULTICULTURAL OR DOWN TO ONE, BUT I HAVE TO CONCEDE THAT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY HITTING THE MARK AS IT IS FOR WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO PUT FORTH IN A MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CONVERSATION AND WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU.
THE WORST CASE SCENARIO WILL BE, WE'LL FLIP THOSE DATES.
I KNOW IT'S A LOT ON THE, THE PARKS AND THE PUBLIC WORKS TO DO JUNETEENTH MULTICULTURAL, AND
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THEN IT'S 4TH OF JULY TOO.MAYBE WE COULD ALL PUT IT IN ONE INCH ALLOTTA WITH THE MARIGOLD FESTIVAL AND HAVE IT WHEN THE MONTH THAT THE MARIGOLDS BLOOM.
WELL, WE DON'T WANNA STOMP ON ANYBODY ELSE'S FESTIVALS EITHER.
AND THEN THE MONTH BEFORE IS ACTUALLY, BUT THE MONEY WE'RE SPENDING WOULD SAY THE TAXPAYERS MONEY.
SO THE SECURITY AND PART, LIKE, THAT'S OUR ULTIMATE, WE HAVE TO SAVE OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY.
WELL, MULTICULTURAL IS THE LEAST EXPENSIVE OF OUR EVENTS.
THE MAJORITY OF OUR MONEY ON MULTICULTURAL GOES TO THE AREA, WHICH WAS MY LEAST FAVORITE.
AND, AND THE PROGRAM ON SUNDAY.
'CAUSE WE HAVE TO PAY FOR ALL THAT, DON'T WE? YEAH.
BUT THAT'S, I MEAN, WE HAVE A BUDGET.
WE'RE JUST SPENDING OUR BUDGET.
WE, SO MY IS YOU REACH OUT, ARE YOU REACHING OUT TO ALL THE CHURCHES IN THE COMMUNITY TO BRING IN DIFFERENT RELIGIONS FOR CULTURAL, FOR, FOR WHEN WE DO THE CULTURAL, FOR MULTICULTURAL.
FOR MULTICULTURAL AND THE SIT DOWNS.
UM, ARE ALL THE CHURCHES INVITED IN THE CITY? I THINK WE'RE HAVING TWO SEPARATE CONVERSATIONS.
SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL YES.
ARE ALL THE CHURCHES INVITED? I I DON'T HAVE RELIGION AND CULTURE SYNONYMOUS IN MY 'CAUSE.
YOUR, YOUR GROUP IS THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION.
SO I'M TRYING TO INTEGRATE THE CHURCHES, THE HANDICAPPED COMMUNITY, AND BRINGING IN THE GAY COMMUNITY TO THIS, BECAUSE WE'VE NOT BROUGHT THOSE IN.
SO, AND WE NEED TO NOT LEAVE THEM OUT.
SO I GUESS MY, MY STRUGGLE WITH THAT IS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL, I AM A, IF I'M A PERSON OF COLOR, MY RELIGION IS A, A SEPARATE PART OF THAT.
SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, ARE WE GOING TO INVITE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PEOPLE FROM INDIA, THAT, THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE CHIC OR MAY OR MAY NOT BE, UM, UM, HINDU.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, SO WE WILL INVITE THE, THE CULTURAL GROUP AND NOT DELINEATE BY RELIGION.
I WOULD INVITE ALL THE RELIGIOUS AS THEY ASK.
WE WILL REACH OUT TO ALL OF THE MAJOR CULTURES TO HAVE 'EM THERE ON THAT SATURDAY.
AND ALSO I'D LIKE YOU TO REACH OUT TO NEMOS AND YOU RS AND CATERPILLARS TO BUTTERFLY.
AND THEY'RE THE HANDICAPPED COMMUNITY.
BUT CULTURE, THEY'RE A PART OF OUR CULTURE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE FABRIC PEOPLE LIVE HERE WITH HANDICAPS AND THEY NEED TO BE INCLUDED.
UM, THAT WAS PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION ABOUT THE HERITAGE MONTHS, UM, WAS FOR THERE TO BE, UM, SOME TYPE OF A GAY PRIDE CELEBRATION HELD BY HUBER HEIGHTS.
WELL, AND THAT COULD BE THAT DAY ALSO, WE'RE NOT GONNA MUDDY UP JUNETEENTH JUNETEENTH IS SEPARATE THAN THE SATURDAY.
BUT I'M GONNA SAY ON A SATURDAY, COULD YOU MAKE SURE ALL THESE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE INVITED? 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S IN YOUR CHARTER THAT WE APPROVED.
BUT DEMOGRAPHICS IS DIFFERENT THAN CULTURE.
I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING YOUR REQUEST.
LIKE, SO I'M ASKING THAT YOU INVITE ALL THE RELIGIONS THAT IF THERE'S A CHURCH IN THEIR COMMUNITY, THEY'RE INVITED TO CULTURE DAY.
UM, I'VE, I'VE WORKED WITH URS MANY TIMES IN, IN THE PAST.
I MEAN, I HAVE, I HAVE NO PROBLEM, UH, REACHING OUT TO THE VARIOUS GROUPS.
UM, I GUESS I, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT IF WE'RE INVITING THE FILIPINO SOCIETY MM-HMM.
THERE MAY BE SUBGROUPS OF PEOPLE WITHIN THAT CULTURE THAT ARE GAY AND HANDICAPPED.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE EXCLUDING THEM, IT JUST MEANS THAT WE'RE INCLUDED IT INVITING.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THEY FEEL INCLUDED.
INCLUSION IS WHAT I WAS GOING FOR.
URS AND NEMOS, THEY'RE ALL RIGHT HERE IN HUB.
AND THEY SERVICE AS A LARGE COMMUNITY.
YOU MEAN THE MANUFACTURER CATERPILLAR, CATERPILLAR TO BUTTERFLIES? IS IT DOWN? IS IT, WE WE'RE GETTING WAY OFF THE RAILS HERE.
AND I DON'T MEAN THAT IN A NEGATIVE WAY, BUT I, BUT I THINK WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN HERE IS, UH, AS A COUNCIL, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION.
UH, WE DO HAVE A CITY STAFF MEMBER WHO IS PART OF OR LIAISON TO THAT COMMISSION.
WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION, UH, WITH THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT WHAT OUR CONCERNS ARE.
AND THAT CAN BE RELAYED TO THE, UH, TO THE LIAISON, AND THEN THE LIAISON CAN HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE ACTUAL COMMISSION ITSELF.
AND THEN, AND THEN MAKE SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I, I, I THINK THAT, UH, I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN BAKER'S POSITION.
I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE POSITION OF, OF THE COMMISSION.
WE'RE NOT GONNA SOLVE THAT ISSUE HERE THIS EVENING IN, IN, IN AN UPDATE.
BUT I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEIR OPINION HEARD AND
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A REBUTTAL HEARD, AND YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMISSION IS, WHAT THE COUNCIL'S, UH, IDM PURPOSE OF THE COMMISSION IS.AND THEN WE CAN RELAY THAT INFORMATION TO THE CITY MANAGER THROUGH THE LIAISON, AND THEN THOSE DISCUSSIONS CAN HAPPEN AND WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD.
I DO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS DO.
I JUST WANNA HAVE THAT INCLUSION FOR ALL THE COMMUNITIES.
COULD YOU JUST, UH, INTRODUCE THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSIONER PRESENT? UM, BYRON GULA AND, UH, MS. JEAN NEWBY HAS JOINED US.
'CAUSE ANITA HAS A COMMENT AS WELL.
I'M NOT ARGUING WITH KATE ABOUT URS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT BEING, IT'S ON A SATURDAY, PROBABLY THE GROUP HOME AGENCIES, IF THEY JUST GOT AN INVITATION, THEY WOULD BE HAPPY THAT THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.
AND I KNOW ALL THE AGENCIES THAT'S IN THIS AREA, SO JUST GET WITH ME AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE ADDRESSES AND STUFF.
AND THEY, THEY JUST LIKE TO GET THE INVITATIONS TO BE REAL HONEST, BECAUSE THEY CAN BRING THE WHOLE HOMES OUT AND STUFF.
I, YEAH, THAT'S, IT'S COMPLETELY FINE.
I DON'T MIND LIKE, EXTENDING THE INVITATION.
I GUESS MY STRUGGLE WAS JUST AS LIKE PERFORMERS OR VENDORS OR, YOU KNOW, FOOD VENDORS, THAT'S WHAT WE FOCUS ON FOR MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL.
WE DON'T USUALLY INVITE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY.
ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.
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C, WHICH IS THE ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE UNIT, THE A RU PRESENTATION FROM THE FIRE DIVISION.YOU SAID WE GOT A COUPLE IMPORTANT FIRE PEOPLE HERE THIS EVENING.
I, I HAVE BATTALION CHIEF RUSSELL HERE WITH ME TO KIND OF HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
HE IS HANDLING A LOT OF THE EMS COMPONENT OF THIS, UH, UH, ALTERNATE RESPONSE VEHICLE.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING.
WE'RE JUST KIND OF, UH, TELLING YOU GUYS WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT OF FRUITS OF, UH, ALL OF THE, YOUR SUPPORT.
SO, UH, WE, WE'VE COME UP WITH THIS, UH, ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE VEHICLE.
UM, AS I'LL GET INTO HERE IN A MINUTE.
THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY A NEW CONCEPT.
THE NEW CONCEPT IS, IS ACTUALLY STAFFING IT WITH DEDICATED PERSONNEL.
WHAT WE'VE DONE IS, IS WE'VE GONE OUT AND BOUGHT A STOCK, UH, THREEQUARTER TON PICKUP TRUCK, GASOLINE MOTOR, UH, A BED TOPPER THAT YOU COULD BUY FROM THE SAME VENDOR THAT WE HAVE IN A SLIDE OUT TRAY.
UH, THE, THE BENEFITS OF THIS ARE REDUCED COST ACQUISITION REPLACEMENT RIGHT NOW FOR A PIECE OF FIRE APPARATUS.
I THINK IF WE WERE TO TRY TO ORDER TODAY, IT'S 36 MONTHS TO TRY TO GET A PIECE OF FIRE APPARATUS IN.
UH, PLUS, UH, I'M TRYING TO THINK, UH, THE LAST FIRE ENGINE WE BOUGHT IN 2016 WAS, UH, 475,000.
AND THE MOST RECENT WAS, UH, UH, JUST SHY OF $800,000.
SO VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT.
UH, REDUCED COST OF OPERATION, THIS THREEQUARTER TON PICKUP TRUCK.
UH, TIRES ARE CHEAPER, GAS IS CHEAPER, OIL'S CHEAPER.
EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS THING IS CHEAPER THAN A FIRE ENGINE.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE MAINTENANCE COSTS AND EVERYTHING ARE, ARE CHEAPER.
UM, THE OTHER BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT THIS PROGRAM IS, IS WE'RE USING A LEASED VEHICLE.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT BUYING, AND WE'RE MARRIED TO THIS IDEA FOR 20 YEARS.
WE'RE MARRIED, NOT EVEN MARRIED TO THIS IDEA FOR FOUR YEARS.
WE CERTAINLY COULD REPURPOSE THIS VEHICLE IF IT ENDED UP NOT WORKING OUT.
UH, AND THEN AT THAT FOUR YEARS, WE CAN ALSO, RIGHT-SIZE THE VEHICLE.
MAYBE WE WENT WITH A VEHICLE THAT'S TOO BIG.
MAYBE WE WENT WITH A VEHICLE THAT'S TOO SMALL.
AND, UH, WE'LL GET TO ADJUST HERE IN A FEW YEARS.
WHEN IT COMES UP, UH, AT THE END OF ITS, UH, LEASE PERIOD, UH, THE SPEED AND AGILITY HAVING US IN A, UH, SMALLER PICKUP TRUCK, UH, WILL, WILL, IT'S, IT'S A LOT FASTER GETTING OUT THE DOOR.
WE'VE KIND OF SH WE'VE, UH, WE'VE SEEN THAT JUST, UH, WATCHING THE DAYS THAT IT'S IN SERVICE AND THE EASE OF GETTING IN AND OUT OF INCIDENTS.
UH, THERE'S, UH, UH, WE HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM ON OUR STREETS, BUT SOMETIMES WHEN WE GET THERE, THE POLICE GET THERE AND, UH, UH, THINGS GET TIGHTER SO THAT IT GETS A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO GET, UH, THESE, UH, THIS LITTLE TRUCK IN AND OUT OF THINGS.
UM, THE OTHER THING, THE, UH, UH, ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE VEHICLE CONCEPTS GONNA DO FOR US IS IT, IT'S, UH, OFFERING IMPROVED, UH, OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE MORE SERVICES THAT, UH, WE CURRENTLY DON'T DO.
UH, THERE IS THE VEHICLE THAT WE HAVE, IT'S JUST A STANDARD, LIKE I SAID, FORD F TWO 50 TRUCK WITH A, UH, CAP, UH, CAP ON THE BACK AND A TRAY.
AND, UH, OUR CITY STREETS, UH, DEPARTMENT WORKED WITH US AND HELPED, UH, FABRICATE, UH, SOME HOLDERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CARRIES IS A DRUG BAG.
WELL, TO HAVE DRUGS IN A VEHICLE, IT HAS TO BE IN A LOCKED COMPARTMENT.
UH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, UH, WAS NICE ENOUGH TO HELP US OUT.
WE HAVE A NICE ELECTRONIC LOCK COMPARTMENT THAT, UH, THEY BUILT THEMSELVES.
AND, UM, IT'S, UH, IT'S BEEN A NICE LITTLE, UH, PROCESS TO WORK WITH, UH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS.
SO THE, UH, THE, THE CONCEPT OF ALL THIS, LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A NEW CONCEPT.
HUBER HEIGHTS USED TO HAVE, UH, WHAT THEY CALLED RESCUES.
UH, THE RESCUES WERE PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE COSTLY, UH, BASED ON THAT DAY'S COST VERSUS TODAY'S COST, UH, BECAUSE THEY HAD, LIKE, UH, THEY HAD FIRE PUMP AND
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THINGS LIKE THAT ON 'EM.BUT ANYWAYS, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS, IS EVEN WHEN I STARTED HERE, WE WOULD SHUFFLE BETWEEN TAKING A FIRE ENGINE OR A LADDER TRUCK, AND WE WOULD OPT TO TAKE THE FIRE ENGINE BECAUSE THE FIRE ENGINE WAS SMALLER, UH, EASIER, EASIER TO GET.
UH, BUT THE, THE ONE THING THAT'S NOT GOOD IS, IS THAT WHEN SOMEONE'S HAVING A MEDICAL EMERGENCY, FIREFIGHTERS HAVING TO GO ROUTINELY ON EVERY SINGLE CALL, GO AND TAKE YOUR GEAR FROM THE FIRE ENGINE, AND THEN RUN IT OVER TO A PICKUP TRUCK, PUT IT IN THE PICKUP TRUCK, AND GO.
UH, SO, SO THE, THE, THE BIG THING THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IS, IS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE DEDICATED STAFFING FOR THIS.
UM, UH, THE, THE OTHER THING IS, IS, IS THAT IF WE WERE JUST SHUFFLING BACK AND FORTH THE VEHICLE, WE'RE LEAVING THOSE, UH, THE PUBLIC ALWAYS ASKS US, WHY ARE THE BIG FIRE TRUCKS HERE? WELL, THE BIG FIRE TRUCKS ARE, ARE ON THESE CALLS, NOT BECAUSE WE NEED THE BIG FIRE TRUCK THERE, BUT WE NEED THE MANPOWER AT, UH, STATION 22 TODAY, THERE'S, UH, FIVE FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS OR, UH, PEOPLE ASSIGNED A, A FIRE APPARATUS, AND TWO OF 'EM ARE OUR MEDIC UNIT THREE ARE ON A FIRE TRUCK.
IF WE WERE DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS SMALL PICKUP TRUCK, AND WE SENT THE SMALL PICKUP TRUCK OUT, AND THE SECOND THEY'RE CLEARING THE CALL, A FIRE COMES OUT, WELL, THEY'RE HAVING TO GET IN THAT PICKUP TRUCK AND DRIVE BACK TO THE FIRE STATION.
OUR PROCESS HERE IS, IS GOING TO ELIMINATE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO STAB THAT SMALLER VEHICLE WITH MANPOWER.
SO THERE'S STILL MANPOWER LEFT BEHIND.
UM, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS, UH, WE'VE KIND OF HAD INTERNAL DEBATES WHERE, YOU KNOW, UH, PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WELL, THIS ISN'T A NEW THING.
WELL, IT, THIS IS A NEW THING, UH, IN OUR REGION TO HAVE PEOPLE DEDICATED TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE DEDICATED TO AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE UNIT.
THAT IS THIS, THAT IS PRIMARILY DESIGNED TO SUPPORT OUR EMS FUNCTION.
UH, IT'S A, IT'S A GROWING TREND.
UH, UH, UH, MEMPHIS, TUCSON, PORTLAND, UH, OREGON, MESA, PLANO, TEXAS, UH, THERE'S A, I'VE GOT AN ARTICLE AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU CAN READ, BUT IT'S, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT.
UH, WHILE WE MIGHT BE REVOLUTIONARY IN OUR REGION, WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT BEING REVOLUTIONARY, UH, ACROSS THE NATION.
UM, LIKE I SAID, IT'S PREVENTING THE, UH, OVER UTILIZATION OF EXPENSIVE AND HARD TO FIND FIRE APPARATUS.
AND, UH, THE, UH, IDEA OF ROLLING THIS TRUCK OUT.
IT'S GONNA LEAVE PERSONNEL AND SERVICE AVAILABLE FOR SIMULTANEOUS REQUESTS FOR FIRE AND EMS RESPONSES.
UM, WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN STAFFING THIS TRUCK DURING PEAK STAFFING HOURS, UH, UH, SINCE OCTOBER 28TH.
AND WHEN I SAY PEAK STAFFING, WE HAVE SO MANY FIREFIGHTERS ASSIGNED TO A SHIFT, AND SO MANY PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO BE OFF BEFORE WE BRING IN OVERTIME.
UH, WHEN WE HAVE THOSE, UH, THOSE PERIODS TO WHERE, UH, WE CAN PUT THIS TRUCK IN SERVICE, WE'VE BEEN DOING IT WITH THE IDEA OF GETTING THE INCREASED STAFFING THAT, UH, THAT ALL OF YOU, UH, AUTHORIZED RECENTLY.
UH, WE WILL, UH, ONCE THE, THE PERSONNEL ARE IDENTIFIED AND HIRED AND ONBOARDED, WE WILL PUT THIS, UH, SQUAD 22.
WE'RE CALLING IT IN SERVICE 24 HOURS A DAY.
UM, THE, THE CONCEPT HERE, UM, YOU KNOW, STATION 25, UH, WHEN IT WAS INITIALLY BUILT, THE IDEA WAS BEFORE IT WAS EVEN BUILT, WAS YOU HAVE TO PUT FIVE FIREFIGHTERS IN THAT STATION.
UM, FIVE FIREFIGHTERS IS A VALID IDEA, BUT ONE OF THE IDEAS WHY IT HAD TO BE FIVE WAS, IS THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DOING.
UH, STATION 25 HAS BEEN IN SERVICE FOR SOME TIME NOW, AND WHAT WE'VE NOTICED IS, IS, IS THAT STATION 25 DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME CALL ACTIVITY AS THE OTHER STATIONS.
SO THE IDEA OF OUR NEW PERSONNEL, NOT AUTOMATICALLY JUST PUTTING THEM AT STATION 25, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE, IS, UH, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GO AND LOOK AT WHAT OUR, WHERE OUR TRUE NEEDS ARE AT.
SO STATION 20, TWO'S AREA IS 41% OF THE, THE RESPONSES AND STATION 20 THREE'S AREA IS 39% OF THE RESPONSE AREA GOING AND IMPLEMENTING THIS A RV.
NOW WE ARE ABLE TO PUT MORE BODIES IN THE AREA THAT HAS THE HIGHEST DEMAND.
THESE PEOPLE WILL RESPOND THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY, BUT THEY'RE BEING HOUSED WHERE THE DEMAND FOR SERVICES ARE.
AND IN THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, THE DEMAND, THE BIGGEST DEMAND FOR SERVICES IS SOUTH OF TAYLORSVILLE ROAD OF, SO HERE'S HERE IS OUR WORKLOAD, UH, UH, UH, PER STATION.
UH, STATION 25 ACTUALLY HAD A HIGHER YEAR THAN IT HAD BEFORE AT AT 20% OF THE CALLS STATION 22 AT 41% AND STATION 23 AT, UH, AT 39%.
THE, UH, ALTERNATIVE, UH, THE, UH, THE, UH, THE DEDICATED PERSONNEL.
SO WE'RE NOW, WE'RE GONNA DEDICATE TWO PEOPLE.
A FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC AND ONE LIEUTENANT ARE GONNA BE ON THIS, ON THIS, UH, ON THIS VEHICLE.
AND THEY'RE GONNA BE RESPONDING TO PRIMARILY COMPLEX MEDIC CALLS.
YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE'S HAVING A HEART ATTACK, THEY'RE NOT UNCONSCIOUS, BUT THEY'RE HAVING A HEART ATTACK, THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE BREATHING.
WE HAVE A VERY, VERY HIGH STANDARD THAT WE WANT PEOPLE TO DO.
ESSENTIALLY, OUR PEOPLE ARE, ARE, ARE WALKING IN OFF OF THE STREET AND INTRODUCING THEMSELVES, UH, DE ROVING THE PATIENT AND DOING A 12 LEAD EKG THAT MANY HAVE PROBABLY HAD DONE AT A DOCTOR'S OFFICE WITHIN HOW MANY MINUTES? IT'S WITHIN EIGHT MINUTES.
SO WITHIN EIGHT MINUTES, OUR PEOPLE ARE GETTING ON
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THE SCENE AND THEY'RE DOING ALL THESE ACTIVITIES.IT TAKES PEOPLE TO DO THIS AND TO PROVIDE A, A GOOD LEVEL OF FAST SERVICE.
HAVING, HAVING THESE DEDICATED PERSONNEL, WE THINK THAT, UH, UH, HAVING THE SAME PEOPLE ON THESE VEHICLES, UH, MULTIPLE DAYS, UH, IS GOING TO BENEFIT US BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE GOING TO GET A RHYTHM.
THEY'RE GONNA START, THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO WORK AS A TEAM.
AND, UH, WHEN SOMEONE'S CALLING FOR HELP, OUR PEOPLE ARE CALLING FOR ASSISTANCE.
THEY KNOW WHO'S GONNA BE, BE RESPONDING TO HELP THEM.
UM, THIS IS GONNA ALLOW US TO EXPAND SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE ALREADY COME UP WITH WAS, UH, CAPTAIN, UH, CAPTAIN BRENDAN DEER CAME UP WITH A, UH, UH, FALL INJURY PREVENTION, UH, CHECKLIST THAT WE USE.
SO WE'LL GO IN, UH, YOU KNOW, ON A NORMAL MEDIC CALL, A SLIP AND FALL AND SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL.
WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA GET YOUR LOVED ONE LOADED UP IN THE MEDIC, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THIS CHECK SHEET.
UM, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS, IS NOW WITH THE, UH, ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE VEHICLE, WHILE WE'RE OUT THERE ON THE CALL AND THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF THE PATIENT, THE OTHER PART OF THE CREW CAN GO THROUGH AND START KIND OF WORKING WITH THE FAMILY AND SAYING, HEY, THIS BED BEING IN THIS LOCATION AND THE HOUSE IS PROBABLY NOT A GOOD IDEA.
OR, THESE EXTENSION CORDS, CHECK SMOKE DETECTORS, AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
UM, ONE OF THE OTHER IDEAS THAT WE HAVE IS TO FOLLOW UP ON HIGH RISK PATIENTS WHO REFUSE TRANSPORT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR US TO GO OUT ON SOMEBODY HAVING A HEART ATTACK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND THE PERSON BEING STUBBORN, UH, AND SAYS, I DON'T WANNA GO TO THE HOSPITAL.
AND ONCE SOMEBODY DECIDES THEY DON'T WANNA GO TO THE HOSPITAL, AND THEY'RE ALERT AND THEY'RE ORIENTED AND THEY'RE MAKING GOOD DECISIONS, OR THEY'RE MAKING DECISIONS THAT MAKE SENSE, THEY CAN REFUSE TREATMENT.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT WITH THIS VEHICLE IS, IS QUITE POSSIBLY IS, UH, IN THE MORNING AT SHIFT CHANGE, THERE COULD BE A, THERE COULD BE A LIST AND, UH, THAT LIST COULD BE GONE OVER WITH THE PEOPLE ON THIS A RV, AND THEN ONE OF THEIR ASSIGNMENTS COULD BE IS TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE THAT HAD A MEDICAL EMERGENCY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND KIND OF FOLLOW UP WITH THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY GOT HELP OR TRY TO HELP IDENTIFY SOME OTHER RESOURCES OR HAVE A FOLLOW UP VISIT WITH THEM.
UM, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THIS TRUCK IS GOING TO BE USED FOR IS, UH, IT'LL BE USED, UH, UH, UH, TO ASSIST THE INCIDENT COMMANDER ON FIRE INCIDENTS.
NOW IN OUR, I WENT ON A FIRE, UH, WITH THE BATTALION CHIEF MALL WHEN WE, UH, RIGHT BEFORE WE, WE CAN'T KIND OF CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA.
AND WE NOW HAVE SOFTWARE IN OUR BATTALION CHIEF'S CAR THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE WHEN I WAS OPERATING AS A SHIFT CHIEF.
AND WE CAN MONITOR EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THE SCENE'S, AIR, AIR PACK SETTINGS.
WELL, OUR AIR PACKS, IF YOU STAND TOO LONG IN ONE PLACE, ALARMS START GOING OFF WITH THE ALARMS GO OFF IN THE CAR AS WELL.
SO IF SOMEBODY IS DOWN WITHIN SO MANY SECONDS, THE, THE, UH, INCIDENT COMMANDER'S ALERTED TO THAT.
WELL, WHEN YOU HAVE A CHALLENGING INCIDENT AND YOU'RE TRYING TO RUN THE TACTICAL OPERATION OF THIS INCIDENT, AND THEN YOU HAVE SOFTWARE TO MONITOR, IT GETS HARD.
UH, THE SOFTWARE IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT, BUT ALSO IS PUTTING OUT THE FIRE.
SO ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS, UH, OF THIS SQUAD, IF THEY DON'T GET THERE AND THEY'RE NOT PERFORMING AN ACTIVE RESCUE, WHEN THEY GET THERE, ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS WILL GO TO THE INCIDENT COMMANDER AND HELP WITH, UH, PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY, MONITORING THE SCBA SOFTWARE, OTHER SOFTWARE, PUTTING A DRONE UP AND GETTING THEM A VIDEO FEED OF THE FIRE.
UH, AND THEN, UH, ONE OF THE OTHER PERSONNEL CAN ACT AS A SAFETY OFFICER OF THE SCENE.
UM, LIKE I SAID, ONCE WE GET THIS THING FULLY STAFFED, I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF SMART PEOPLE OUT THERE AND WE CAN'T THINK OF EVERYTHING, BUT THEY CAN.
UH, ONCE WE GET THIS STAFFED WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE, UH, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO START IDENTIFYING OTHER AREAS.
WE ALREADY HAVE ONE PERSON, UH, THAT, THAT HAS A, SHOWS A, A KEEN INTEREST IN COMMUNITY PARAMEDICINE, UH, COMMUNITY PARAMEDICINE.
I'M NOT NECESSARILY SURE THAT WE NEED TO DEDICATE A UNIT OF COMMUNITY PARAMEDICS, BUT USING THIS VEHICLE, WE CERTAINLY CAN IDENTIFY THE TASK OF COMMUNITY PARAMEDICINE AND HAVE THEM PERFORM THE DUTIES THAT WE THINK ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, THE SAME PERSON WORKING ON THE COMMUNITY PARAMEDICINE RIGHT NOW IN THE STATE OF OHIO.
THERE AREN'T A WHOLE LOT OF FIRE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE WORKING WITH THE CIT OR THE CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM, BUT THERE ARE SOME, THERE ARE SOME RESOURCES OUT THERE.
SO WE'RE STARTING TO LOOK INTO THE IDEA OF, UH, POSSIBLY HAVING FIRE DEPARTMENT PEOPLE OR THESE PEOPLE GET INVOLVED AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK IF YOU ASK CHIEF RUSSELL OR ANYONE, I THINK THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE THINK THAT THIS PROGRAM'S GOING TO DO, HAVING THESE TWO PEOPLE DEDICATED TO THIS VEHICLE.
UH, THE IMPACT RIGHT NOW, USING OUR DATA, UM, LOOKING AT 2023 DATA, UH, ENGINE 12 IS OF COURSE A DATE AND FIRE ENGINE, BUT IT'S ONE OF OUR PRIMARY RESPONDERS TO THE SOUTH END.
UH, PUTTING THIS PIECE APPARATUS IN SERVICE, IT WILL REDUCE, UH, IT'LL REDUCE THOSE APPARATUS, LEAVING THEIR STATION AND BEING TIED UP ON NON-FIRE, STRUCTURAL FIRE RESPONSES A THOUSAND TIMES A YEAR HAVE BY PUTTING THIS TRUCK IN SERVICE.
AND HERE'S JUST THE, UH, THE, THE, THE DAILY PEAKS OF THE FIRE APPARATUS RESPONDING ON EMS ASSIST INCIDENTS.
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SO SOMEBODY HAVING A HEART ATTACK AND, AND THEY RESPOND, UH, WHERE THE A RV COULD BE RESPONDING.THAT'S JUST KIND OF A QUICK LITTLE CHART, UH, THAT SHOWS YOU THAT THEY WENT OUT ON 1,028 INCIDENTS, WHICH THAT NUMBER'S A LITTLE LOW BECAUSE WE WERE USING THE SQUAD SUM.
UH, I THINK BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE STARTED, THE SQUADS RESPONDED ABOUT 80, UH, ABOUT ON 80 RESPONSES, AND THAT'S ON A PART-TIME BASIS.
UM, THE IMPACTS, UH, WE'RE GONNA SEE, AS WE SAID, UH, REDUCTION IN RESPONSES.
THIS IS GONNA FREE US UP, UH, FOR SIMULTANEOUS CALLS.
THE SIMULTANEOUS CALLS HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE DID OUR STAFFING PRESENTATION.
AND SIMULTANEOUS CALLS ARE STILL HAPPENING AT LEAST 50% OF THE TIME.
WHEN ONE AMBULANCE OR ONE MEDIC OR ONE FIRE TRUCK GOES OUT, ANOTHER ONE GOES OUT ON ANOTHER CALL.
UH, SQUAD 20 TWO'S GONNA INCREASE THE TIME THAT, THAT THIS APPARATUS AND PERSONNEL BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO, UH, ANY ONE OF THOSE CALLS.
AND THEN ALSO, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GONNA REDUCE, REDUCE, WEAR AND TEAR ON OUR LARGER, MORE EXPENSIVE FIRE APPARATUS.
UH, A LITTLE CHART FOR SIMULTANEOUS CALLS, THE, THE, THE BIG PIECE OF PIE ON THE RIGHT, THAT'S, THAT'S A SINGLE INCIDENT HAPPENING.
SO 50% OF THE TIME WE HAVE A SINGLE INCIDENT AND THE SINGLE INCIDENT IS HAPPENING.
YOU HAVE TWO CALLS, UH, THREE, AND I THINK WE WOULD GO ALL THE WAY UP TO EIGHT INCIDENTS AT ONE TIME.
IT'S NOT, IT'S, IT, IT, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN DAILY, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH, UH, 113 TIMES FOR, I BELIEVE THAT IS, UH, FIVE CALLS 113 TIMES A YEAR.
WE HAVE FIVE CALLS GOING ON IN THE CITY.
UH, WHAT DO WE CARRY ON THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT? ESSENTIALLY, UH, EVERYTHING, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING A MEDIC UNIT WILL CARRY.
THEY CAN'T TRANSPORT SOMEBODY TO THE HOSPITAL, BUT THEY CAN DO EVERYTHING ELSE.
WE HAVE A, A LUCAS CPR DEVICE, UH, A COMPLETE DRUG BAG, COMPLETE PD BAG, COMPLETE FIRST, UH, FIRST IN BAG, AN AIRWAY KIT, UM, TWO SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS.
IF THESE TWO PEOPLE IN THE PICKUP TRUCK SHOW UP TO A FIRE AND THEY'RE THE FIRST TWO PEOPLE THERE, AND THERE'S SOMEBODY TRAPPED IN THAT FIRE, THEY'RE GOING IN AND GETTING THEM.
THEY'RE, EVERY ONE OF OUR PEOPLE IS FULLY TRAINED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT KIND OF THING.
AND THAT TRUCK IS NO DIFFERENT.
ARE THEY GOING TO EXTINGUISH A HOUSE FIRE ON THEIR OWN? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
BUT IF THERE WAS A RESCUE TO BE MADE, THEY COULD MAKE ALL EFFORTS TO GO MAKE A RESCUE RIGHT AWAY.
UH, THEY HAVE FORCIBLE ENTRY TOOLS AND SAWS, UH, FIRE EXTINGUISHERS, WATER RESCUE GEAR, AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA CARRY ONE OF OUR TWO DRONES.
UH, DRONES HAVE BEEN QUITE POPULAR.
WE HELP THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OUT QUITE A BIT WITH THOSE DRONES.
AND NOW WE WILL HAVE A DEDICATED STAFF THAT THEY NEED A DRONE.
WE WILL SEND THEM OUT RIGHT AWAY.
UH, THE OTHER ONE WILL REMAIN IN THE BATTALION CHIEF'S CAR.
THE, THE BATTALION CHIEFS CARRY A DRONE FOR, UH, RAPID DEPLOYMENT.
UM, WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH TEXT MESSAGES DENIED ABOUT THEY'RE SEARCHING FOR SOMEBODY IN THE, UH, IN THE RIVER UP IN TROY AND WHETHER WE WERE GONNA HELP.
BUT IF WE GOT A CALL LIKE THAT TODAY, THE BATTALION CHIEF CAN GET THERE, PUT THE DRONE UP AND GO FLY TO SEE IF THEY CAN FIND ANYTHING BEFORE WE PUT, UH, OUR ASSETS IN THE WATER.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S SOME FINAL PICTURES, AND MAYBE NOT THE BEST PICTURES, BUT KIND OF GIVES YOU A CONCEPT HERE.
UH, THE, THE LEFT PASSENGER DOOR, YOU CAN SEE THE LOCKED KIT COMPARTMENT.
UH, LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEHIND A LOCKED DOOR.
A LOCKED DOOR BEHIND A LOCKED DOOR, UH, WHERE WE CAN CARRY, UH, MEDICATIONS AND, AND BE FULLY COMPLIANT WITH THE, THE BOARD OF PHARMACY.
UH, THE WATER RESCUE GEAR, UH, THAT THE, THE SLIDE OUT TRAY WITH THE AIR PACKS ON THERE, UH, THEIR TURNOUT GEAR GOES IN THE BACK.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE VEHICLE, WE HAVE OUR LUCAS DEVICE AND OUR, UH, AND OUR, UM, UH, DEFIBRILLATOR.
SO THAT'S THE LONG AND THE SHORT, I GUESS, A LOT OF INFORMATION.
I TRIED TO KEEP IT AS BRIEF AS I COULD, AND, UH, WE'RE, UH, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO GET THIS OFF THE GROUND.
UH, I THINK IT'S GONNA PROVIDE, UH, PROVIDE OUR, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO FOCUS, UH, ON 80% OF OUR BUSINESS, WHICH IS EMS CALLS, AND, UH, WE CAN FOCUS BETTER ON THOSE 80% WITHOUT STEALING FROM OUR FIRE PROTECTION AS WELL.
CHIEF, UM, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF, OF SEEING THIS TRUCK, AND IT'S PRETTY AWESOME.
UM, WILL THIS CUT DOWN ON THE RESPONSE TIME AT ALL? YES.
IT, OUR MEDIC UNITS SHOULD ALWAYS BE FAST, RIGHT? SURE.
'CAUSE THEY'RE GETTING INTO A VEHICLE.
UM, SO THE HELP IS GONNA RESPOND MORE TOGETHER.
UM, NOW, LIKE I SAID, WHAT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS WHEN MEDIC 25 IS OUT, ME 23 IS OUT, MEDIC 22 IS OUT, MEDIC 24 IS OUT WHEN WE HAVE FOUR MEDIC UNITS OUT.
THIS, THIS WILL PROBABLY CUT DOWN ON THOSE TYPE OF THINGS WHEN WE HAVE THOSE FIVE SIMULTANEOUS CALLS.
UM, WE'VE, IT'S BEEN KIND OF, UH, INTERESTING IS, IS THAT, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN, WE HAVE RULES, WE HAVE POLICIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND I KIND OF, WITH THIS, I'VE GONE UNDER THE PHILOSOPHY, UH, SOME ARCHITECTS WOULD TELL YOU THIS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY DO DESIGN A COLLEGE CAMPUS, YOU'D BE BEST NOT TO PUT SIDEWALKS IN AND LET
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THE, LET THE KIDS WALK AND THEN GO AND FIND THE BEAT DOWN PATHS AND PUT THE SIDEWALKS IN WHEREVER THE BEAT DOWN PATHS ARE.AND WE'VE DONE SOME OF THOSE THINGS WITH THIS.
UM, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN EXPERIMENTING WITH IS, IS THAT, UH, THESE PEOPLE GO AND A, THEY NEED TO TAKE A BODY TO THE HOSPITAL WITH THEM.
THEY HAVE A CRITICAL PATIENT, AND THE MEDIC UNIT NEEDS ONE MORE PERSON.
WE HAVEN'T COME UP WITH POLICIES BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO EMPOWER THE PEOPLE TO COME UP WITH WHAT THEY THINK IS BEST AND WHAT WORKS BEST.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING NOW IS, IS THAT IF SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL, THEY FOLLOW 'EM IN THIS PICKUP TRUCK AND THEY GRAB THAT OTHER BODY AND THEY GET 'EM BACK INTO THE CITY, UH, A LOT FASTER THAN SITTING AT THE HOSPITAL FOR AN HOUR.
CHIEF, UH, COULD YOU GO BACK TO YOUR FIRST SLIDE FOR A MOMENT? OKAY.
SO, FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE THE CONCEPT AND I'VE ALWAYS HAD A LOT OF TRUST IN THE FIRE DIVISION IN YOU, YOURSELF, CHIEF NICELEY, AND YOU COULDN'T HAVE, UH, COME WITH A BETTER, MORE WELL-RESPECTED MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY THAN, UH, BATTALION CHIEF JOHN RUSSELL.
I WANTED TO GO BACK TO THE FIRST SLIDE BECAUSE IT SAYS, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A ALTERNATIVE, UH, RESPONSE VEHICLE, RIGHT? UH, I THINK IT'S MORE THAN THAT.
I THINK IT'S A CREATIVE SOLUTION.
UM, IT IS TO PROVIDE MORE SERVICE FOR LESS TAXES.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I APPRECIATE CONTINUING TO SUPPORT PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE COMMUNITY WHILE WE CONTINUE TO SEE ALTERNATIVES LIKE THIS.
YOU OPENED UP BY TALKING ABOUT WHAT A COUPLE DIFFERENT FIRE APPARATUS COST, I THINK YOU SAID 475,000, AND THEN I THINK YOU SAID 800,000.
COULD YOU TELL ME APPROXIMATELY, JUST OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, WHAT TYPE OF GRANT MONEY HAVE YOU AND THE FIRE DIVISION BEEN ABLE TO, UH, GET OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS? WELL, PARKING, I WOULD SAY $2 MILLION PROBABLY.
I COULDN'T BE MORE IMPRESSED THAT PUBLIC WORKS CAME TO YOUR SIDE AND, AND HELPED, UM, PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW HOW THIS ORGANIZATION FUNCTIONS.
ONE DEPARTMENT DIVISION HELPS THE OTHER DEPARTMENT OR DIVISION.
AND TONIGHT THAT'S JUST REPRESENTATIVE TO THAT.
UM, I THINK THAT YOU AND JOHN ARE AN EXAMPLE OF THE LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM IN THE FIRE DIVISION.
AND I PERSONALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT YOU GUYS AND GALS.
UH, IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S NEW TO THE AREA.
IT'S NOT THE FIRST NEW THING TO THE AREA.
UH, I HAD THE PLEASURE AND OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH CHIEF GROW AND HE WAS DEFINITELY UNIQUE.
AND OUR FIRE DIVISION WOULDN'T BE WHAT IT IS TODAY WITH, WITHOUT TOM GROW.
I'M VERY PROUD AND HAPPY TONIGHT TO BE HERE FOR THE PRESENTATION.
THANKS, MARK, I THINK YOU, UM, THANK YOU.
KIND OF SUMMED UP MY FEELINGS AS, AS WELL TOO IN YOUR STATEMENT.
DOES ANYONE ELSE, UH, HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES.
CHIEF, I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.
I THINK THIS, UH, A RV VEHICLES GONNA BE USED A LOT MORE THAN YOU EVEN THINK 'CAUSE IT IS VERY CONVENIENT, VERY FAST, AND, AND DEFINITELY GONNA BE USED FOR THE MULTIPLE THINGS.
BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR RESEARCH ON THIS AND JUST A WHOLE FIRE DEPARTMENT DID ON THAT.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.
I THINK MISS, UH, COUNCILMAN DAVIS HAD JUST SOLD THAT SAID THAT.
CAN YOU GO TO THE SLIDE? IT HAD THE TWO REALLY HIGH PEAKS OF CALLS.
WHAT WERE THOSE DAYS? WAS IT A SNOWSTORM? WAS IT, UM, A SPECIFIC HOLIDAY? OH, YEAH.
I, I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND, AND SEE SPECIFICALLY WHAT IT WAS.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE, THE, THE ONE THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS, IS OUR PEAK STAFFING.
I DON'T WANT, I DON'T LIKE MAKING PERMANENT PLANS ON NOT PEAK STAFFING, BUT PEAK CALL LOAD BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE RIGHT NOW, IF I WERE TO SELECT A DAY, LET'S SAY IT'S THURSDAY THIS YEAR, I MEAN, MOST PEOPLE WOULD SAY IT'S FRIDAY OR SATURDAY.
AND THERE, THERE IS NO, UH, THERE'S NO RHYME OR REASON.
I I I BET IF WE GO BACK AND WE LOOK, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S NO RHYME OR REASON WHY WE HAD MORE CALLS THAT DAY.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IT WAS LIKE AN ICE STORM OR SUPERBOWL OR THAT, THATS IT.
IT COULD BE, BUT I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, IF WE LOOK AT OUR CHARTS, LIKE ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE PIECES OF DATA THAT WE TRACK IS, IS LIKE HOW MANY DAYS THAT WE HAVE LESS THAN, UH, WHAT IS IT, LESS THAN, LESS THAN 15 CALLS AND MORE THAN 25.
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AS CAN.IT'S JUST ABSOLUTELY RANDOM AS CAN BE.
UM, OR IT'S A MONDAY AND PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THEIR COFFEES.
SO THE CALLS AREN'T ALWAYS THE SAME EITHER.
AND, AND WE ALSO, WE DO SEE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS, IS THAT WE WORK WITH, UH, UH, I GUESS THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE THEM IS SUPER USERS.
AND SOMETIMES WITH SUPER USERS IS, IS THAT IT TAKES A WHILE TO IDENTIFY THEM AS A SUPER USER.
AND THEN ONCE YOU DO, UH, LIKE WE HAVE A CUSTOMER RIGHT NOW THAT CALLS US EVERY TIME THAT THEY'VE BEEN SHOPPING, AND WE NO LONGER WILL TAKE THEM TO DOWNTOWN HOSPITALS BECAUSE WE, WE, WE NOW CAN TRACK WHAT HAPPENS AFTER YOU, AFTER WE TRANSPORT YOU.
AND ONCE THOSE KIND OF, ONCE WE START PUTTING PEOPLE UNDER CARE PLANS THAT OUR DOCTOR REVIEWS, ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT SUPER USER FALLS OFF, AND THEN WE'RE DOWN 20 CALLS IN A YEAR.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S, YEAH, IT'S REALLY RANDOM.
I, I CERTAINLY, IF YOU WANT ME TO, I, I CAN GO BACK IN AND FIND OUT THOSE PEOPLE.
IT WAS JUST LIKE, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS FOURTH JULY OR IT WAS AN ICE STORM AND THEY BOTH HAD LIKE, A LOT OF CAR CAR ACCIDENTS.
THAT WAS JUST, AND THEN, UM, BECAUSE WE DO LIVE IN A DIVERSE COMMUNITY, DO YOU, DOES YOUR TEAM USE GOOGLE TRANSLATOR OR DO YOU HAVE AN APP FOR TRANS SIGN LANGUAGE OR, I THINK OUR PEOPLE IN THE FIELD OR ARE CREATIVE, AND YES, THEY DO USE GOOGLE TRANSLATE, BUT, UH, MR. Z AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE, UH, THERE'S A SOFTWARE OUT THERE THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO CONVERT TO.
THEY'LL PUT A TRANSLATOR ON WITH A FACETIME WHERE THEY CAN TRANSLATE.
WE ACTUALLY FOUND, UH, FOUND OUT ABOUT IT FROM DAYTON'S, UH, CRISIS RESPONSE UNIT.
YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
AND I'LL, I'LL SUPPORT ANOTHER TWO 50
YES, BRIAN? YEAH, I, I JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS DO.
UM, I THINK IT WAS LAST WEEKEND, UH, YOU HOSTED LIKE MY, MY FAMILY AND, UH, MY NIECES AND A COUPLE NEIGHBORHOOD KIDS.
THEY'VE BEEN ALL OVER THAT, SO IT IS, IT'S PRETTY.
SO, UH, BUT NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND THANK YOU FOR HOSTING THEM.
THEY HAD A GREAT TIME, SO I APPRECIATE IT.
OTHER COMMENTS, DON, JUST ONE BRIEFLY.
YOU ONLY TOUCHED A LITTLE BIT IN YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, YOU BROUGHT UP, UH, SOME, UH, DATA ON SIMULTANEOUS CALLS AND THINGS.
I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZE JUST HOW DATA DRIVEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS, HOW, HOW MUCH YOU TRACK THE DATA EVERY TIME THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS APPEARED BEFORE US, UH, YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO BACK UP EVERYTHING YOU SAY ASK FOR OR ARE DOING WITH ACCURATE DATA.
UH, AND I, I JUST CAN'T SPEAK HIGHLY ENOUGH ABOUT, UH, THIS PRESENTATION AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHERS OVER THE YEAR.
I REMEMBER WHEN YOU FIRST BROUGHT THIS CONCEPT UP, UH, A WHILE BACK, UH, JUST YOU WERE STARTING TO GO DOWN THIS PATH AND TO SEE IT COME TO FRUITION, LIKE THIS IS AMAZING.
I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT YOU DO WITH IT IN THE FUTURE.
ANYTHING ELSE? I, SO I JUST HAVE A, A QUESTION.
SO IT MIGHT BE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OFF OF THIS TOPIC SPECIFICALLY, BUT IT'S, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NUMBER OF SERVICE CALLS, I JUST ACTUALLY HEARD, UM, ON THE NEWS THAT THEY'RE A LOT OF THEIR MAJOR, YOU KNOW, BIGGER METROPOLITAN CITIES, BUT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE ISSUE THEY'RE HAVING WITH ACTUAL, ALMOST LIKE PRANK 9 1 1 CALLS.
AND IN SOME CITIES, I MEAN, THEY WERE TRACKING THE DATA, IT WAS UPWARDS OF SOME 60% OF THE CALLS THEY RECEIVED WERE PEOPLE CALLING, ASKING 9 1 1 OPERATORS.
DO YOU KNOW THE SCORE OF THE GAME? I MEAN, USING 9 1 1 SERVICES FOR THAT KIND OF THING.
DO, DO WE HAVE ANY WAY TO TRACK? DO WE, BECAUSE IF THAT KIND OF STUFF IS HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GET OUT AND LET PEOPLE KNOW.
HEY, I MEAN, I THINK WE HAVE AN 800 NUMBER
AND IF WE DO, WE NEED TO ADVERTISE, WE NEED, WE NEED TO ADVERTISE THAT.
BUT I THINK I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS TO, TO KNOW, AND I THINK THAT'D BE GOOD DATA FOR US TO HAVE, EVEN IF IT'S JUST FROM AN EDUCATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, WHAT 9 1 1 IS FOR WHAT IT'S NOT FOR, HEY, I KNOW YOU MIGHT'VE BEEN DRINKING, BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE SCORES OF THE GAME.
BUT IF, IF WE HAVE ANY WAY TO, TO KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF CALLS THAT WE HAVE, OUR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T SERIOUS VERSUS WHAT THE REAL SERIOUS CALLS ARE.
BECAUSE WHEN SOMEBODY'S ON THE PHONE, YOU CAN'T JUST, I, I KNOW JUST FROM PROTOCOL, YOU CAN'T JUST HANG UP ON SOMEBODY 'CAUSE THEY CALL AND ASK FOR THE SCORE OF THE GAME, BUT THEY MIGHT BE TAKING A RESOURCE FROM SOMEBODY ELSE WHO MAY NEED IT.
AND IF THAT KIND OF STUFF IS HAPPENING, I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW WHAT THAT DATA LOOKS LIKE.
'CAUSE AS, AS, UH, DON SAID, EVERYTHING WE DO FROM EMS SERVICES IS ALL DATA DRIVEN.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
IF WE HAVE A WAY TO TRACK THAT AND WHAT THAT IS, I'LL GET WITH, UH, DEBORAH AT THE DISPATCH CENTER AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN PULL FOR US.
THAT'D BE, THAT'D BE GREAT INFORMATION TO HAVE.
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FROM THE FREQUENT FLYERS, DO WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, WITH CALLS LIKE THAT, WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? LIKE THE, THE, JUST THE INFORMATION SERVICES? YEAH.WHAT WE WILL FIND IS, AND I MEAN, AND, AND THIS IS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE, WE END UP WORKING ON, AND I THINK SOME ASPECTS OF COMMUNITY PARAMEDICINE, UH, THE, I THINK PROBABLY THE, THE WORST EXAMPLES THAT WE HAVE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE, UM, EXCEEDING THE LIMITATIONS OF BEING ABLE TO STAY AT HOME.
AND THEY WILL CALL FOR LIKE A BLOOD PRESSURE CHECK AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE A LITANY OF OTHER THINGS THAT THEY WANT DONE, LIKE THEIR THERMOSTAT ADJUSTED A SODA OUT OF THE REFRIGERATOR, CIGARETTES, AND, UH, HAVE BEER
AND THE ONE THING WE'VE COME TO UNDERSTAND IS, IS THAT WE KNOW THAT WHEN IT'S KIND OF LIKE A WHACK-A-MOLE, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU HIT ONE, ANOTHER ONE, ANOTHER ONE WILL COME UP.
BUT WE DON'T GET, I DON'T THINK WE GET ABUSED TERRIBLY.
AND WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IS, IS, LIKE I SAID, THESE CARE PLANS, THEY JUST, UH, THEY JUST, UH, IMPLEMENTED, UH, NOT IMPLEMENTED, BUT THEY NOTIFIED THE PATIENT LAST NIGHT.
UH, LIKE, SO WHEN WE DO SEE THE SUPER USERS, THAT'S ONE OF OUR MITIGATING THINGS WITH HAVING A, A WONDERFUL ER RIGHT HERE IN OUR BACKYARD IS, UH, SOMETIMES WHEN WE GET SOMEBODY THAT WE HAVE TRANSPORTED, UM, OR DEALT WITH, YOU KNOW, SO MANY TIMES, AND WE KNOW WHERE WE SEE THE COMPLAINTS AND WE SEE THAT THEY WALK OUT OF THE HOSPITAL.
'CAUSE ONE OF THE, THE SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE IS ACTUALLY INTEGRATED IN WITH THE HOSPITAL.
SO WE CAN, OUR PEOPLE ACTUALLY LOG IN AND THEY GO AND THEY LOOK UP THEIR PATIENTS FROM LAST NAME BECAUSE THEY'RE, LIKE, I SAID, THIS PERSON WAS HAVING A STROKE.
ARE THEY REALLY HAVING A STROKE? WELL, OUR PEOPLE WILL GO AND THEY SEE THAT THESE PEOPLE GET TO THE HOSPITAL.
THEY GO FROM HUBER HEIGHTS TO LET'S SAY MIAMI VALLEY HOSPITAL, AND THEY'RE THERE FOR FIVE MINUTES AND THEY WALK OUT THE DOOR.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE IMPLEMENT THESE, SOME OF THESE CARE PLANS.
AND ONCE YOU START ISOLATING THEIR CHOICES, THEY CAN GO ANYWHERE.
BUT IF THEY WANT A HUBER HEIGHTS MEDIC TO TAKE THEM, WE SAY, YOU KNOW, LIKE, WE'LL TAKE YOU TO HUBER ER.
AND THAT USUALLY HELPS REDUCE THE, THE AMOUNT OF, OF, I DON'T WANNA SAY OF USE, BUT PEOPLE TRYING TO FIND OTHER RESOURCES THAN, THAN WHAT A, A ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT UNIT IS.
WELL, I, I THINK OUR CREWS DO A GOOD JOB OF COMMUNICATING AND WATCHING THOSE, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN SEE TRENDS, THEY SEE THE SAME PATIENTS, THEY COMMUNICATE WITH THE OTHER CREWS.
BUT THEN THE NEWEST CAPTAINS, I MEAN, CAPTAIN DEERE HAS BEEN ON TOP OF PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR, LIKE BEFORE THE CRUISING WAS SAYING BEFORE, WE WOULD WAIT ON THE CREW TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
AND HE'S, HE'S BEEN ON TOP OF THE LAST THREE.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S HELPED TO REDUCE OUR SUPER USERS.
THANKS FOR THE, THANKS FOR THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT WENT INTO PUTTING THAT PRESENTATION TOGETHER.
[ Montgomery County 911 Program Review Committee Appointments]
WHICH IS THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY 9 1 1 PROGRAM REVIEW.UM, SO THIS, UH, RESOLUTION IS TO APPOINT THE, UH, MAYOR OF OAKWOOD AS THE, UH, APPOINTEE TO THE 9 1 1 PROGRAM, REVIEW COMMITTEE AND THE MAYOR OF CENTERVILLE AS THE, UH, ALTERNATE.
UM, WHAT BRIAN AND I HAVE FOUND OUT, UM, FROM THE OAKWOOD CITY MANAGER WHO TYPICALLY SAT ON THIS COMMITTEE, WAS IN REVIEWING THE, UH, OHIO REVISED CODE.
UH, IT REQUIRES AN ELECTED OFFICIAL TO SIT ON THE COMMITTEE, NOT A DESIGNEE, SUCH AS A CITY MANAGER.
UM, SO IN DISCUSSION WITH ALL THE COMMUNITIES, UM, THERE WAS AGREEMENT THAT WE'D APPOINT THESE TWO MAYORS AS THE, UH, REPRESENTATIVES TO THE 9 1 1 COMMITTEE.
THEY ALWAYS HAVE THESE MEETINGS LIKE, WELL, I'M AT WORK.
SO
SO ANY OBJECTION TO MOVING THIS, UH, LEGISLATION ON TO MONDAY'S MEETING, UM, APPOINTING THE MAYOR OF OAKWOOD AND, UH, MR. COMPTON, THE MAYOR OF CENTERVILLE AS THE ALTERNATE.
NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE E, WHICH IS A
[ Disposal Of Vehicles]
DISPOSAL OF VEHICLES.UM, SO THIS IS TO DISPOSE OF A NUMBER OF VEHICLES, UH, THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR.
UH, SIX PICKUP TRUCKS IN USE IN, UH, PUBLIC SERVICE, FOUR CRUISERS, AND THEN AN ADMINISTRATIVE VEHICLE.
UM, THEY WILL NOT ALL BE CYCLED OUT AT THE SAME TIME, BUT, UH, THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR WE'LL BE REPLACING THEM.
UM, AND SO THIS WILL AUTHORIZE US AS WE REPLACE THEM TO DISPOSE OF THEM.
I DID SPEAK WITH, UH, MIKE GRAY TODAY, UM, AS WE HAVE FOR THE LAST, I THINK 20 YEARS.
UH, THESE WILL BE PLACED ON, UH, GOV DEALS, UH, FOR AUCTION.
AND THEN WE WILL TAKE THE BEST OFFER.
ANY QUESTIONS? MA OBJECTIONS? YES, MARK, RICK, I, IS THERE ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU OR BRIAN
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OR, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, DIVISION HEADS COULD HAVE PROVIDED US THAT WASN'T, OR DOES ANY OF COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS OR, UH, THIS IS PRETTY STANDARD.BUT FOR ANYONE ON COUNCIL AND JUST ASKING YOU, RICK, YOU'RE NEW.
AND YOU'VE DONE IT OTHER PLACES.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE ASKED FOR MORE? NO, I KNOW, UH, MR. DAVIDSON ASKED ME APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY, UH, MILES WERE ON THE CRUISERS.
UH, THOSE HAVE ABOUT 85,000 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES ON 'EM.
UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE PICKUP TRUCKS, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S ONE FROM 97, 0 4 0 8.
THESE ARE PRETTY AGED OUT VEHICLES.
UM, AND AS COUNCIL'S AWARE, THE CITY'S MOVED MORE TOWARD A LEASE STRUCTURE, UH, FOR VEHICLES, WHICH ALLOWS US TO, UM, BOTH BRING CONSISTENCY TO THE BUDGET AS, AS BRIAN'S TOLD ME, BUT ALSO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT GOOD EQUIPMENT, UM, FOR THE CITY.
SO I CAN'T THINK OF ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ASKED, UM, OTHER THAN IS IT TIME FOR THESE TO BE REPLACED? AND THE ANSWER I THINK IS DEFINITELY YES.
AND, AND BRIAN, ANYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF OR WITH YOUR YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND DISPOSAL OF VEHICLES THAT STAFF DIDN'T PREPARE, UH, THAT WAS NECESSARY? NO, SIR.
DID THE COMMENTS THAT COUNCIL HEARD EARLIER IN THE EVENING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN UTILIZING THE AUCTION PROCESS, THE ONLINE AUCTION PROCESS FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.
AND I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN SO USED TO THAT WE'VE FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE BENEFIT THAT THAT PROVIDES TO STAFF WITH REGARD TO, UH, OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO DELIVER, UH, THE LABOR RESOURCE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO, UH, THERE MIGHT BE A FEW OF US AROUND, UH, WHO REMEMBER BACK IN THE DAY, AND ENGLEWOOD USED TO HOLD A BIG AUCTION, AND YOU LITERALLY HAD TO DRIVE ALL OF YOUR EQUIPMENT, OR TRANSPORT ALL YOUR EQUIPMENT OVER THERE.
YOU HAD TO DEVOTE PERSONNEL FOR, UH, A DAY OR TWO TO HELP PROCESS SOME OF THOSE TRANSACTIONS.
AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, 15 YEARS AGO, WE WOULD'VE, YOU KNOW, PROVIDED MORE DETAIL TO COUNSEL ABOUT, BECAUSE WE WERE MAKING THE TRANSITION AWAY FROM WHAT WAS THE NORMAL WAY OF DOING IT TO THE, THE NEWFANGLED METHOD, THIS ONLINE AUCTION PROCESS.
UH, BUT NOW EVERYTHING IS DONE ONLINE.
AND SO, UM, THE NEED TO PROVIDE YOU THAT INFORMATION HAS BECOME RELATIVELY GERMANE BECAUSE WE'RE JUST SO USED TO DOING THAT.
UH, YOU KNOW, OCCASIONALLY, I THINK TO THE CITY MANAGER'S POINT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MADE A LOT OF THESE TRANSITIONS, UM, TO HELP, UH, ADDRESS SEVERAL THINGS NOTABLE, UH, FOR CONSISTENCY IN THE BUDGET.
AND THROUGH THIS, UH, THE UTILIZATION OF THE EQUITY LEASING PROGRAM WE'RE A PART OF, WE WON'T BE DISPOSING OF MOST VEHICLES, UM, THE WAY THAT COUNCIL IS ACCUSTOMED TO, UM, UH, FOR THOSE VEHICLES UNDER 26,000 GROSS VEHICULAR WEIGHT, BECAUSE THEY'LL BE TURNED IN THROUGH THE LEASE PROGRAM.
SO WE WON'T BE, UM, TRANSITIONING VEHICLES, UH, LIKE THIS PROBABLY, I THINK STARTING NEXT YEAR WILL, IS THE FIRST REPLACEMENT YEAR IN THAT CYCLE.
SO WHEN THAT COMES, YOU'LL BE A QUESTION AT SOME POINT IN TIME IN THE FUTURE, AND THEN WE'LL PROVIDE THE ANSWER THEN.
AND AFTER THREE OR FOUR YEARS, THAT QUESTION WILL NOT GET ASKED ANYMORE.
VERY SIMILAR TO THE AUCTION ISSUE.
SO I KNOW MR. CAMPBELL, I THINK, UH, THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE PROVIDED TO COUNCIL IS, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF THE PRACTICE WE'VE HAD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS THAT, UH, THAT THIS CITY'S CONTINUED TO UTILIZE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY.
DON, ARE THERE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ANSWERED, OR HAVE YOU HAD COLLEAGUES ON COUNCIL ASK QUESTIONS THAT YOU KNOW AREN'T ANSWERED? UH, MARK? NOT, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
I THINK THERE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK PART OF, PART OF OUR ROLE AS COUNCIL, UM, ALL OF US HAVE TO HAVE NOT JUST A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FAITH, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE FAITH AND TRUST IN OUR, IN OUR CITY STAFF, UM, TO, IF, IF I'LL JUST SAY THIS, IF WE DON'T TRUST THEM TO MAKE THE RIGHT RECOMMENDATIONS TO US, WE HAVE A LOT BIGGER PROBLEMS THAN SELLING CARS ON GOV DEALS.COM.
WELL, I, I DON'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO CALL AND TALK TO EACH ONE OF YOU, BUT IT'S LIKE THE LEAD PIPE THING.
I MEAN, I, MY HEAD'S STILL SPINNING WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEAD IN OUR PIPES.
AND THIS ISSUE, IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS YOU, YOU KNOW, LET, LET'S SAY YOU TRUST OR DON'T TRUST STAFF, THAT'S ALL ANOTHER ISSUE.
LET'S SAY, ARE THERE PENDING QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING, OR WE ARE ASKING, OR WE'RE NOT GETTING ANSWERS TO? NO, AND I THINK TO, TO, WE ARE, MAYOR, I WANT TO SUPPORT YOU ON COUNCIL TO GET THOSE ANSWERS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS OR THE LEAD PIPE ISSUE, BUT IF YOU DO, I'LL GO SIDE BY SIDE AND WE'LL DEMAND THIS, THIS INFORMATION.
AND I THINK THE, THE, THE, THE, THE POINT THAT I WAS MAKING IS THAT, AND WE'RE PRETTY EASY TARGET PRACTICE.
YOU KNOW, JUST SITTING UP HERE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? OH, ABSOLUTELY.
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THAT, UM, ALL OF US CAN'T BE EXPERTS IN, IN EVERYTHING, WHICH IS WHY WE HIRE PEOPLE TO PROVIDE US THAT INFORMATION AND PROVIDE US THOSE ANSWERS.AND I THINK THAT, UM, TO, TO, TO THE POINT I WAS MAKING EARLIER IS THAT, UH, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY QUESTIONS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ANSWERED.
AND I THINK THAT A BIG PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE UP HERE DO HAVE THAT FAITH AND TRUST THAT THE INFORMATION WE'RE GETTING FROM STAFF IS SOLID AND COMPLETE.
AND THE REASON FOR MY QUESTIONS, AND I IS A RECALIBRATION FOR MYSELF, NOT FOR YOU GUYS, BUT FOR MYSELF.
BECAUSE YOU READ AND YOU HEAR CERTAIN THINGS, AND THEN IT JUST DOESN'T MESH.
AND, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT AS A PART-TIME COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT THERE AREN'T BIG GAPS IN STUFF I'M NOT ASKING, OR, OR THAT I'M NOT HEARING.
AND, AND I DO DEPEND ON STAFF, AND I THINK STAFF IS DOING A GOOD JOB, RUSS.
UH, AND IF, IF THERE'S QUESTIONS, I'M COMPLETELY CONFIDENT THAT THE PERSONALITIES ON THIS DICE IS GONNA ASK QUESTIONS.
THAT WAS JUST FOR MY OWN BENEFIT, SCOTT.
UH, WELL, IF DON COULD USE ITS PLUMBING BACKGROUND, I GUESS I COULD USE MY AUTOMOTIVE BACKGROUND.
AND EVEN THOUGH THE 2019 CRUISERS ARE PRETTY NEW, I KNOW WORKING ON THEM MYSELF, CRUISER GETS A LOT OF IDLE TIME.
SO EVEN THOUGH THE MILEAGE MIGHT BE ONLY 85,000, YOU GOTTA ALMOST TIMES THAT BY TWICE FOR IDLING TIME.
'CAUSE EVEN THOUGH THE CRUISERS ARE OUT THERE, EVEN WHEN THEY'RE DOING THEIR, YOU KNOW, UM, PROGRAMS ON THEIR COMPUTERS OR THEY'RE STUDYING, OR THEIR CLASSWORK, THEY USUALLY HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE CRUISERS ITEM.
SO THAT'S PUTTING A LOT OF HOURS ON THE ENGINES VERSUS WHAT THE MILEAGE SAYS.
SO, UM, THE ONE QUESTION, BRIAN, IS, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG THE LEASE VEHICLES ARE GOING FOR? IS THAT FIVE YEARS OR THREE YEARS? SO IT'S ACTUALLY A LEASE EQUITY PROGRAM.
AND THE WAY THAT IT'S DESIGNED TO WORK IS IT'S DESIGNED TO TRADE THE VEHICLE IN BASED ON, UM, THE MOST OPTIMAL RESALE VALUE, UM, ON TRADE-IN.
AND WHAT HAPPENS IS ENTERPRISE MEETS WITH, UH, CITY STAFF ANNUALLY, AND THEY REVIEW WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR VEHICLES.
SO WE HAVE CERTAIN TARGETS THAT WE TRY TO, TO MEET WITH REGARD TO, UH, TO MILEAGE AND AGE.
UH, BUT CHANGES IN THE MARKET MIGHT DRIVE THE PRICE OF A PICKUP WITH LOW MILEAGE, MUCH HIGHER THAN WHAT PAST TRENDS HAVE SEEN.
AND SO, UH, BECAUSE THE GOAL IS TO, UH, TO MAXIMIZE EQUITY ENTERPRISE MIGHT COME IN AND SAY, HEY, WE HAD THIS VEHICLE PROGRAM TO, UH, LEAVE THE FLEET IN FOUR YEARS, BUT AFTER TWO YEARS, RIGHT NOW IT'S RESALE VALUE AND THE MARKET IS SO HIGH, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU SELL IT NOW, MAXIMIZE THAT EQUITY, AND THEN APPLY THAT EQUITY AGAINST THE NEXT LEASE, DRIVING THAT LEASE PAYMENT DOWN, DRIVING THAT COST DOWN.
SO, UH, EVERY VEHICLE HAS A TARGET, AND WE CAN PROVIDE ALL THAT INFORMATION TO COUNSEL, IF THAT'S OF INTEREST, UH, OF WHEN WE, UH, OF WHEN ENTERPRISES RECOMMENDING THOSE VEHICLES BE CYCLED OUT.
BUT WE DO AN ANNUAL REVIEW TO MAXIMIZE THAT, THAT EQUITY RETURN TO THE CITY.
SO, UM, I WOULD SUSPECT BASED ON OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH ENTERPRISE, OTHER COMMUNITIES, UTILIZATION OF ENTERPRISE, MOST OF THOSE TARGETS WILL BE CORRECT.
BUT AGAIN, WE NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE MARKET.
I MEAN, IF THINGS GO SOUTH IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND GAS PRICES GO UP, UM, YOU KNOW, THE VALUE OF FOUR CYLINDER PASSENGER VEHICLES WILL, WILL CHANGE SUBSTANTIALLY.
SO, UM, THAT'S THE BEST WAY THAT I COULD ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN, BUT I HAVE TO PROVIDE YOU ANY ADDITIONAL DETAIL.
AND PROBABLY THE EQUITY ON THAT IS HIGHER THAN WHAT WE COULD DO WITH GOV DEALS, CORRECT? CORRECT.
UM, COME BACK AND WE'LL COME BACK AND HIT YOU GUYS UP.
YOU ACTUALLY ANSWERED MY QUESTION I WAS GONNA ASK, AND AS FAR MR. CAMPBELL IS, AS FAR AS, UH, ASKING ANY QUESTIONS, AND I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF.
I FEEL WE HAVE TO AND, AND NEED TO AND SHOULD, AND I DO.
AND EVERY, AND I'VE PROBABLY BUGGED, I'VE BUGGED EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM.
UH, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO, NOT JUST AS A, UH, A NEWER COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, AS A CITIZEN.
AND IF I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M, I'M GOING TO REACH OUT AND ASK.
THERE'S A LOT, YOU KNOW, THAT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PLUMBING.
UM, I'M, I'M NOT GONNA ASK DON, BUT, UM, UM, THERE'S THINGS THAT I DON'T KNOW AND I'M JUST NOT A PART OF.
UM, BUT, UM, I KNOW I BUGGED TONY QUITE A BIT.
UM, AND EVERYBODY'S, YOU KNOW, I GOTTA TRUST THAT THOSE ANSWERS ARE CORRECT, YOU KNOW, AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I'LL JOT STUFF DOWN, LIKE ANYBODY ELSE, AGAIN, I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, UM, IS GOING TO BE ANSWERED IN THE CONTEXT OF THE CONVERSATION, UM, OR OTHER PEOPLE ARE ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
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I APPRECIATE WHAT STAFF DOES.IT'S NOT, UM, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF DETAILS AND THINGS THAT GO INTO IT.
BUT, UH, I HAVE TO AND WANT TO, TO TRUST STAFF AND, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE UP HERE ON THE DAAS, YOU KNOW, AND EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT I, I ANSWER QUESTIONS ALL THE TIME OR, UM, TRY TO FIND INFORMATION FROM THOSE QUESTIONS FROM GETTING EMAILS AND, AND TEXTS AND, AND HAVING DIFFERENT KINDS OF CORRESPONDENCE FROM EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST TRY TO GO FROM THERE AND GET EDUCATED ON, ON WHATEVER SUBJECT AND GO FROM THERE.
BUT, SO IF I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M NOT SHY, I'M GOING TO ASK.
SO, BUT I, I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT THOUGH.
I WAS GONNA SAY, I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT VEHICLES.
I WAS JUST GONNA ASK SCOTT ABOUT THE 2021, 'CAUSE I FIGURED YOU WOULD KNOW IF THAT'S A LITTLE SHORT ON THAT LEASE OR NOT, BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO EVEN ACT LIKE I KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANY VEHICLES.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE THE GO-TO WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.
BUT THE 2021 WAS THE ONE I HAD QUESTIONS, WHETHER THAT'S A LITTLE SOON OR NOT.
OR MAYBE WE JUST TAKE HOUR MONITORS ON THE CARS, LIKE THEY DO ON LIKE TAXIS, YARD MOWERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
LET GET YOU, I CAN CHECK IN WITH THE CHIEF ON THE 2021 AND SEE, UH, WHAT IT IS.
HE DID MENTION THAT SOME OF THE SRO VEHICLES GET LESS MILES ON 'EM VERSUS THE, THE ON THE ROAD VEHICLES.
SO I'LL, I'LL FIND OUT ABOUT THAT ONE FOR YOU.
SO YEAH, CHANCES ARE ON THE NEWER MODEL VEHICLES, THEY'RE GOING TO BE, UM, DAMAGED BECAUSE OF AN, BECAUSE OF AN INCIDENT.
SO THEY'RE INVOLVED IN A CHASE, THEY'RE INVOLVED IN SOME KIND OF SITUATION, AND NOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE NO LONGER DRIVABLE FOR OUR PARTICULAR PURPOSES.
BUT, UH, BUT AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID, WE CAN VALIDATE THAT.
YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA RESPOND TO COUNCILMAN CAMPBELL'S ORIGINAL COMMENT AND MY RECOLLECTION OF THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT A LIST LIKE THIS, UH, MARK, UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF DEBATE UP HERE, UH, ON THE DAIS BETWEEN, UM, OF COURSE PREVIOUS COUNSEL, UM, REGARDING THIS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT GOV DEALS WAS THE BEST WAY TO GO.
UH, BRIAN, YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT TO DISCUSSION.
UM, AND I THINK AFTER WE WENT THROUGH THAT DISCUSSION, I FELT MORE COMFORTABLE, UM, AS FAR AS DOING THE GOV DEALS, UH, THE, THE CITY WORKING THROUGH GOV DEALS, BECAUSE IT DID SEEM TO PROVIDE THE MOST EFFICIENT AND COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO GET RID OF THESE SURPLUS VEHICLES OR SURPLUS EQUIPMENT IN THE CITY.
SO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UM, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH, UH, CONTINUING WITH USING GOV DEALS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION OR NOT.
I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT WORKING IN THE DARK.
SO THIS IS FOR MR. KOWSKI OR MR. ZICK? UM, SO WHEN A CAR'S MADE, TYPICALLY THEY SAY IT'S A 19, IT WAS PROBABLY BORN IN AUGUST OF 18.
IS THAT FAIR? NOT THAT I'M A CAR PERSON, LIKE MY EXPERT NEXT TO ME THUMB.
AND THEN, UM, IN MY PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE, OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE TAKE HOME CRUISERS.
SO A DEPART, SOMEBODY WORKS FIRST SHIFT, THEY TAKE THE CAR HOME FOR SECOND AND THIRD, AND THEY GO OUT THE NEXT DAY FOR FIRST SHIFT.
WE DON'T HAVE TAKE HOME CRUISERS.
SO THESE CRUISERS ARE PROBABLY RUNNING THREE SHIFTS A DAY.
SO I THINK LIKE, YOU DON'T REALIZE HOW MUCH THESE CARS ARE RUNNING.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS, UM, WHAT ARE WE REPLACING THESE CARS WITH? IS IT GONNA BE GASOLINE OR IS IT GONNA BE HYBRID OR IS IT GONNA BE, I'M HOPING IT'S GASOLINE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT MY CRUISERS TO NOT BE ABLE TO WORK WHEN IT'S COLD.
I HAVE TO GO TO WORK WHEN IT'S COLD.
I WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO WORK WHEN IT'S COLD.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BE GASOLINE ENGINES.
UH, I WILL ACTUALLY BE TESTING AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE MYSELF JUST TO GET A FEEL FOR WHAT IT CAN AND CAN'T DO FOR THE CITY FLEET.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT OUR PDS QUITE AT THE POINT, OR FIRE FOR THAT MATTER, IS AT THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE USING ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
AND MARK, YOU HAVE FOLLOW UP? YES.
RICK, YOU BEEN IN CITY GOVERNMENT OR SOME TYPE OF GOVERNMENT FOR A COUPLE DECADES.
THE CONTROVERSY IS HOW FAST YOU ROTATE YOUR FLEET.
WE ROTATED THEM SIX YEARS AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.
IS THERE A FLEET PERSON, SOMEONE ASSIGNED TO HELP THE POLICE CHIEF DECIDE THAT AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? I DON'T BELIEVE IT SAID.
UM, IT'S, UH, LIEUTENANT, UH, ANTHONY IS THE, UM, IS THE, UH, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER ASSIGNED TO FLEET.
AND SO HE'S THE ONE THAT MANAGES THAT PARTICULAR COMPONENT OF THE DEPARTMENT FOR THE CHIEF.
AND WHEN HE COMES UP WITH A LIST THAT'S PROBABLY NOT RUBBER STAMPED
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BY THE POLICE CHIEF, IT'S DISCUSSED BY THE POLICE CHIEF AND BEFORE IT'S GIVEN TO YOU AND RICK, THEY'VE HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AND IT'S THE BEST PLAN MOVING FORWARD.UH, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S A FAIR CHARACTERIZATION.
REMEMBER, A LOT OF THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE ALSO HAPPENING AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL, UH, AT THE BUDGET.
SO, UH, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON DURING, UH, THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR, UH, LARGE PURCHASES VEHICLES IN PARTICULAR TO BE DEBATED BY THE CITY MANAGER AND THE FINANCE DIRECTOR.
HEY, IS THIS NECESSARY? DO YOU REALLY NEED THIS? CAN YOU PUT THIS OFF THE LAST TIME WE CYCLED THESE VEHICLES OVER FOUR YEARS? WHY IS IT THREE? SO THERE IS CONVERSATION AT MULTIPLE, UM, IN MULTIPLE AREAS OF ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE ARE HANDLING THESE ASSETS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF NOT JUST THE DIVISION, BUT WITH, UH, THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TAXPAYER AS WELL.
AND, AND THESE AREN'T FOLKS LIKE US THAT DON'T HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF WHEN YOU SHOULD CYCLE A POLICE DEPARTMENT AUTOMOBILE FLEET, RIGHT? CORRECT.
UH, TONY ASHLEY HAS SEVERAL, UH, EXCUSE ME.
LIEUTENANT ASHLEY HAS SEVERAL YEARS, DECADES OF EXPERIENCE, UM, IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR SENIOR LEADERSHIP TEAM HAVE MULTIPLE, UM, YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, UH, TENS OF YEARS OF, UH, EXPERIENCE IN THEIR RESPECTIVE FIELD.
SO, UH, THESE ARE FOLKS THAT, THAT DO HAVE A, A KNOWLEDGE NOT JUST LEARNED, UH, FROM, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONAL MATERIALS, BUT ALSO FROM THEIR EXPERIENCE.
SO RICK, FROM ALL OF YOUR WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE, IS THIS ABOUT AS THOROUGH AS IT'S DONE? YEAH.
SO THE QUESTIONS THAT WE MIGHT COME UP WITH AND THE ANSWERS THAT WE'RE GIVING AND THE TRUST WE HAVE FOR STAFF, UH, YOU GUYS EARN YOUR PAYCHECKS AND YOU'RE COMING TO US SOME PART-TIME FOLKS THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING BACK TO THE CITY.
THESE ARE WELL THOUGHT OUT DECISIONS, CORRECT? CORRECT.
I APPRECIATE IT, MAYOR, FEEL, LET ASK YOU QUESTION.
I, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTARY.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? JUST THAT THE, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF MIKE'S MAKING A GOOD DECISION WITH THE 97 S 10, IT NOW QUALIFIES FOR HISTORICAL VEHICLE PLATES, SO, BUT WE'LL BE SORRY TO SEE THAT ONE GO.
WE CAN GET ONE, WE CAN GET LIKE A BIG POLE OUT HERE, LIKE THE OLD AUTOFAIR.
WE CAN TAKE THAT 97, NO STICK.
BOY, THAT CAR BRINGS BACK SOME PT, DOESN'T IT?
REMEMBER THAT THING? OH MY GOSH.
WELL, WE CERTAINLY GOT OUR MONEY'S WORTH OUTTA THAT LITTLE LESS TOO, SO, OKAY, GREAT.
NO, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTARY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE REMINDER THAT IT IS ACTUALLY A LEASE EQUITY PROGRAM, I THINK IS A GOOD REMINDER FOR EVERYBODY IS THAT WE'RE GONNA MAXIMIZE WHEN WE'RE GONNA GET THE MOST RETURN OUT OF THAT VEHICLE.
NOT JUST BASED ON TIME AND MILEAGE, BUT VALUE.
AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT REMINDER OF THE TYPE OF PROGRAM THAT WE'VE ENTERED INTO WITH ENTERPRISE IN THAT LEASE PROGRAM.
SO EQUITY IS VERY, IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND THOSE VEHICLES IN THAT TERM, UH, WE WANNA GET THE MOST RETURN BACK ON THAT EXPENSE.
AND IT ISN'T REALLY AN INVESTMENT, BUT IT'S AN EXPENSE.
AND UNDERSTANDING THOSE MARKET VALUES HAVE TRENDS AND THEY CHANGE.
OUR GOAL IS TO GET THE MOST EQUITY BACK OUTTA THOSE VEHICLES, NOT JUST THE MOST USE.
SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT, UH, PIECE TO REMEMBER IN, IN THAT PROGRAM ITSELF.
DON, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? THE ONLY THING I WAS GONNA SAY IS YOU MIGHT WANNA, UH, FURTHER EXPAND ON THAT WITH WHAT THIS COUNCIL DID, UM, UH, IN ENGAGING THE, THE LEASING COMPANY, THE, UM, BECAUSE THAT WAS, UH, A TOTAL CHANGE IN DIRECTION FOR THE WAY WE, UM, HANDLE OUR CITY VEHICLES.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THAT OR NOT.
I'LL PAUSE TO GET A LITTLE DISTRACTED.
I FEEL LIKE MY, MY BLOOD SUGAR IS DROPPING HERE A LITTLE BIT AND I WAS TRYING TO GRAB SOME CANDY OUTTA THERE, DAWN.
SO I'M I'LL YEAH, IF YOU WILL.
I, I MISSED, I MISSED WHAT YOU HAD SAID THERE.
ACTUALLY, WITH ENTERPRISE FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS, ENTERPRISE KNOWS HOW TO DO THREE THINGS, BUY CARS, SELL CARS, AND RENT CARS, AND THEY KNOW HOW TO BUY 'EM.
THEY KNOW WHEN TO SELL 'EM AND THEY KNOW HOW TO, I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET IN THERE.
AND THEY'RE TAKING ALL OF THAT KNOWLEDGE AND CORPORATELY AND THROUGH PUBLIC, UH, ENTITIES SHARING THAT INFORMATION.
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE MAKING A PREMIUM OFF THAT, BUT THEY'RE ABLE TO, UH, ESTABLISH AND YOU'RE ABLE TO TRACK THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM AND WE'RE GONNA SAVE MONEY, NOT COST MONEY, OR WE WON'T CONTINUE DOING IT.
AND THERE'S SEVERAL CITIES THAT DO IT.
I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT MOVE FOR THIS COUNCIL TO HAVE MADE, UH, WHEN WE MADE IT TO ENTER INTO A PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE NOT, NOT, WE'RE NOT BUYING AND SELLING, UH, WE'RE TRUSTING AN EXPERT
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TO, UH, WALK US THROUGH THOSE.I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HEARING IT.
LAST PIECE OF YOUR COMMENT THERE.
FRED FIGURED OUT HOW TO OPEN MY CANDY BAG, SO THANK YOU, CINDY.
THAT CAME IN REALLY HANDY TONIGHT.
AGAIN, I THINK THAT WAS, UH, A GREAT DISCUSSION.
[ EECBG Grant - Energy Efficiency * EECBG Grant Application Authorization]
F, WHICH IS THE E-E-C-B-G GRANT, UH, FOR ENERGY EFFICIENCY.AND THIS IS, UH, FOR AN E-E-C-B-G GRANT APPLICATION AUTHORIZATION.
THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO PIECES TO THIS.
OH, I'M, I DIDN'T TURN THE PAGE ON THE NEXT PAGE.
AND VENDOR AUTHORIZATION FOR A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT.
SO IS THIS BRIAN? THAT'D BE ME AND MR. MAYOR.
UM, THE, UM, THE CITY HAS ALLOCATED, HAS BEEN ALLOCATED FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, UH, FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF ABOUT $76,000 FOR, UH, SOME KIND OF, UM, ENERGY ASSOCIATED PROJECT OR ENERGY RELATED PROJECT.
UH, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS WE'D LIKE TO EXPAND OUR CHARGING, OUR EV CHARGING CAPABILITIES HERE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE'D LIKE TO UTILIZE THIS PARTICULAR GRANT FUNDING, UH, TO PUT IN THREE CHARGERS, ONE AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, ONE UP THE EEL BERGER, AND THEN ONE OVER AT THE NEW GOVERNANCE AND SENIOR CENTER.
THIS IS MONEY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED TO US, SO ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS ACCESS IT.
AND THE WAY THAT WE DO THAT IS COMPLETE THE APPLICATION PROCESS BY APRIL, UH, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE THE COMPANION LEGISLATION IN HERE, UH, TO IDENTIFY THE VENDOR.
THIS IS THE VENDOR THAT WE WORKED WITH ON OUR PREVIOUS EV CHARGING PROJECT.
UH, AND SO WE'RE VERY COMFORTABLE AND CONFIDENT THAT THEY CAN DELIVER, UH, THE PRODUCT THAT WE NEED.
UH, THE, UH, TOTAL PROJECT, UM, HAS BEEN ALLOCATED WITHIN THE BUDGET APPROXIMATELY $90,000, UM, IN THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE SOME COSTS THAT MIGHT OVERRUN THE GRANT, BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT TO BE THE CASE, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE THOSE RESOURCES AVAILABLE SINCE WE NEED TO, UH, HAVE THIS PROJECT APPROVED BY APRIL THROUGH THE, UH, UH, DOE.
SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNSEL APPROVE, UH, THESE TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION AT MONDAY EVENING SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD AND MEET OUR DEADLINE, UH, IN APRIL FOR PROJECT SUBMITTAL AND APPROVAL.
UH, AND THAT IS JUST THE APPROVAL PROCESS.
WE DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE PROJECT COMPLETED IN APRIL, UH, BUT WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECT IS APPROVED IN APRIL.
SO THAT'S WHY WE WOULD ASK THAT, UH, YOU APPROVE THIS LEGISLATION ON MONDAY SO WE HAVE THE TIME TO, UH, COMPLETE ALL THE APPLICATION DOCUMENTS AND HAVE THOSE SUBMITTED IN A TIMELY MANNER.
SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, SIR.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, NANCY? I DO.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, WELL, TWO QUESTIONS.
NUMBER ONE, WHAT IS THE RECHARGE TIME ON A LEVEL TWO? UH, THAT I DO NOT KNOW? I'LL HAVE TO LOOK THAT UP AND RESPOND BACK TO COUNSEL.
UH, THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF, DO WE HAVE ONE AT THE AQUATIC CENTER? UH, WE HAVE, UM, CHARGING STATIONS AT TOM CLOUD AND WE HAVE CHARGING STATIONS AT, AT THE ROAD, AT THE, UH, AT THE ROSE.
TO ME, IT WOULD SEEM MORE APPROPRIATE TO PUT IT AT THE AQUATIC CENTER BECAUSE PEOPLE SPEND MORE TIME AT THE AQUATIC CENTER THAN THEY DO AT THE EEL BERGER.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT, UM, WHEN THE NEW LIBRARY WAS BUILT, IT INCLUDED THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO PUT IN A, UM, CHARGING STATION, OR I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THEY PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A CHARGING STATION.
WE NEED TO FINISH THAT UP TO HAVE ONE AT THE LIBRARY.
UM, WE CAN, UM, I MEAN WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, THE LIBRARY FOLKS ABOUT WHERE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS, UM, AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER ALTERNATIVE.
UH, BUT BASED ON, UM, SOME OF THE COMMENTARY AND THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAD RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THE INITIAL PLANNING PHASES OF THE GOVERNANCE CENTER, WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD BE, UH, THE MORE APPROPRIATE PLACE.
BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO LOCATE IT WHEREVER, UM, WHEREVER COUNCIL WOULD, WOULD LIKE US TO PUT IT.
WELL, I AGREE THAT THERE SHOULD BE AT LEAST ONE AT THE GOVERNANCE CENTER, BUT THE LIBRARY IS A SEPARATE ENTITY AND IT HAS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GO THERE, AND IT SEEMS LIKE FAR MORE SO THAN THE EEL BERG, YOU KNOW, UM, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WHEN WE PLAN THE LIBRARY, WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING CHARGING STATIONS THERE AND, AND I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO AT LEAST HAVE ONE THERE, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, AND WE'LL CONSIDER THAT.
AND I THINK, UH, MAYBE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS MEETING AND, AND SOME SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS, UH, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THE EEL BERGER OR THE AQUATIC CENTER, I, I THINK COUNSEL WILL COME TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHY WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING
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THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE ARE, BUT HAPPY TO CONSIDER, UM, UH, HAPPY TO CONSIDER THE LIBRARY LOCATION AS WELL.ARE, ARE WE TIED INTO A LOCATION WITH THIS LEGISLATION? UH, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, NO, WE ARE NOT.
IT IS, UH, WELL, ONCE WE HAVE THE PLAN THAT IS SUBMITTED, UH, AS PART OF THE APPLICATION AND THAT'S APPROVED, THEN YES, THEN THAT WOULD BE THE, UH, THOSE WOULD BE THE STATION LOCATIONS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO UTILIZE.
WELL, I TALKED TO, I KNOW THE, THE, UM, DIRECTOR OF THE LIBRARY THAT THAT POSITION HAS CHANGED, BUT I DO BELIEVE I SPOKE TO THE, TO THE NEW GENTLEMAN AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING INTO WHETHER THERE WAS FUNDING AVAILABLE TO PUT A CHARGING STATION THERE, UH, THROUGH THE TAX LEVY THAT WE'VE HAD.
SO THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE THAT IF YOU CONTACT THEM, THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND OUT, UH, IF THEY'RE GONNA FUND IT OR IF EVENTUALLY WE NEED TO FUND IT OR, OR WHATEVER.
BRIAN, YOU MENTIONED THE TIMEFRAME, RIGHT, TO GET THIS DONE.
UH, IF, IF WE MOVE THIS ON THE WORK SESSION AND GIVE SOME TIME TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, IF THAT'S WHAT NANCY'S ASKING FOR, IS THAT GONNA PUT OFF THE, THE TIMING? I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WERE ASKING US TO PROVE THIS ON MONDAY FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE, BUT, UM, I, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD, BUT, UM, I WOULD ASK THAT PERHAPS MAYBE, UM, YOU JUST INDULGE US TO THE END OF THIS MEETING AND, UM, AND IF THAT'S THE, THE DESIRE, UH, TO NOT SEE THAT ON MONDAY, PERHAPS MAYBE MOVE THAT, JUST PASS THAT LEGISLATION ON ON MONDAY.
BUT AT LEAST FOR THE PURPOSES OF, OF TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION, IF WE COULD, UH, UM, IF WE COULD, UH, ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IT ON MONDAY.
UM, I, I, I THINK, UH, I THINK FOLKS WILL UNDERSTAND WHY IT, MAY I ADD MAYOR? MM-HMM.
IT IS, UH, WE OWN THE LAND PROPERTY, YES.
SO, SO IF CHARGING STATIONS WERE PUT IN AT THE Y IS IT OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE OR IS IT THEIRS? WELL, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UM, A, I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE TO, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE Y AND THEN IT WOULD BE A POLICY DECISION OF CITY COUNCIL.
WELL, I'M JUST KIND OF LOOKING WAY DOWN THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL LOCATIONS.
SO I DON'T, FOR SPEAKING, FOR ME, I'M ALL FOR THIS LEGISLATION, I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE LOCATIONS.
SCOTT, BRIAN, DO YOU KNOW IF THOSE ARE PAY THE CHARGE CHARGING STATIONS OR YES, YES.
I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE RATES ARE, UH, BUT I KNOW THAT WE DID SET THOSE RATES RIGHT AFTER THEY CAME ONLINE AND THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT THAT TESLA FAST CHARGING, IT'S PROBABLY JUST A REGULAR GENERAL OR, UH, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
BUT I CAN FOLLOW UP, UH, ALONG WITH MS. BURGESS QUESTION ABOUT, UH, THE TIMING, UH, FOR A LEVEL TWO CHARGING STATION.
OKAY, SO JUST MY UNDERSTANDING RIGHT, THAT FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE, YOU'D LIKE COUNSEL TO, TO HAVE THIS APPROVED ON MONDAY? YES.
AND THEN AS PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS, ONCE WE FILL THE APPLICATION, THE LOCATIONS NEED TO BE ON THE APPLICATION PIECE, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
BUT YOU HAVE TIME TO DO THE APPLICATION, BUT YOU WANT THIS ON HERE NOW SO YOU CAN START THAT PROCESS? UH, CORRECT.
SO YES, SO WE CAN MOVE THE LOCATION BETWEEN NOW AND APRIL, BUT IT WOULD BE TIME SENSITIVE TO GET ALL THAT THAT STARTED SO WE GET ALL THAT INFORMATION POPULATED.
WE CAN GET ALL OF THE, THE PRICING DONE, UH, AND GET ALL THAT SUBMITTED.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I HAD A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT, OF WHAT THE ASK WAS AND THEN THAT TIMING, SO YES.
SO UNDERSTAND THAT WE MAY HAVE A DISCUSSION FURTHER ABOUT SPECIFIC LOCATION.
ARE THERE ANY MAJORITY OBJECTION TO MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY? CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? MM-HMM.
YOU CAN'T USE ANY OTHER CARS ON IT, RIGHT? THE NO, THEY HAVE THE OTHER ADAPTERS AND ALL THAT.
USUALLY THE TESLA'S A FASTER, A FAST CHARGED.
SO THE LEVEL TWO ARE NOT FAST CHARGED.
UH, YOU HAVE SOME, YOU HAVE MULTIPLE DEVICES TO PLUG IN DIFFERENT VEHICLES.
THAT'S THE MAIN THING IS, YOU KNOW, THE LEAF TAKES ALMOST TWO PINS TO, TO CHARGE IT, SO.
I DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THIS GOING MONDAY.
MY QUESTION IS, I WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF CHARGER'S GONNA GO IN? IS IT THE TESLA KIND OR THE OTHER KIND? AND IF WE ARE EVER GONNA GET ELECTRIC CARS, I THINK IT SHOULD BE PUT AT THAT.
IF IT'S GONNA BE FOR FIRE OR CITY HALL, OR LIKE, THAT'S THE ASK.
IF IT'S, IF WE'RE GONNA GET CARS FOR CITY HALL FOR EMPLOYEES TO TAKE, LIKE THE MANAGER, THE CITY MANAGER WOULD USE IT, THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE THE CHARGER TO GO.
LIKE SSI, IT'S BENEFICIAL TO WHAT WE'RE DOING AND
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IT WOULD BE UNDER OUR PURVIEW AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD BE GOING BY AND BE ABLE TO KEEP AN EYE ON IT.THE REASON FOR THE CITY HALL CHARGER IS BECAUSE WE ARE PROCURING AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE FOR TESTING PURPOSES.
UH, I'LL JUST DONNA YOU ANOTHER COMMENT JUST BRIEFLY.
COUNCILWOMAN BURG'S RECOLLECTION IS CORRECT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE LIBRARY, UH, IT WAS BROUGHT UP, UH, WILL YOU, I THINK IT WAS THE PARKING DISCUSSION, WILL YOU HAVE EV STATIONS THERE AND THE LIBRARY, UH, AGREED THAT THEY WOULD, UH, PUT IN THE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE FOR AN EV STATION, OR I'M SORRY IF I REMEMBER WRONG, IT WAS MULTIPLE EV STATIONS.
THE LIBRARY, UH, PEOPLE WE SPOKE TO AT THE TIME ALSO SAID THAT, UH, THEY WOULD CONSIDER PUTTING IN THE EV STATIONS IF, UH, THE DEMAND WAS SEEN FOR EV STATIONS THERE.
SO IT MIGHT BE A THING THAT THE LIBRARY HAS ON THEIR PLANS FOR, UM, UH, AS PART OF THEIR IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
SO I'LL JUST ASK AGAIN, JUST TO MAKE SURE, UH, IS THERE A MAJORITY OBJECTION? OKAY.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO G, I, UH, HAD A, A MISHAP THERE BACK TO THE, UH, THE DISPOSAL OF THE VEHICLES.
WE HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, BUT THEN I DIDN'T ASK AS I ALWAYS DO.
WERE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THAT DISPOSAL OF VEHICLES ONTO MONDAY'S MEETING AS WELL? OKAY.
SO WE'LL SEE BOTH OF THOSE AT MONDAY'S MEETING.
[ 2024 Street Program - Solicit Bids]
WHICH IS THE 2024 STREET PROGRAM, AND SOLICITING THOSE BIDS RU YEAH.ON THIS ONE, UH, THIS LEGISLATION IS FOR US TO GO OUT TO BID FOR THIS YEARLY, UH, STREET IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
UH, THIS YEAR WE'RE GONNA BE MILLING AND REPAVING APPROXIMATELY 22 DIFFERENT STREETS, CITY STREETS, TOTALING APPRO, A LITTLE BIT OVER FIVE MILES OF ROADWAY.
UH, THE MAP IS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
YOU CAN, UH, LOOK AT THE MAP ON THERE.
UH, WE ARE, THIS YEAR WE ARE INCLUDING, UH, THE, UM, OLD TROY PIKE, UH, WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE'RE FIXING RIGHT IN THE ROAD UP THERE, UM, FROM TAYLORSVILLE TO THE RAMP GOING ONTO THE HIGHWAY.
THAT'LL BE, THAT WHOLE AREA WILL BE REPAVED AND RES STRIPPED AS PART OF THIS PROGRAM.
UH, PAVING ALSO INCLUDES EIGHT STREETS THAT WE ARE REPLACING WATER MAINS THIS YEAR.
AND THAT WATER MAIN WE STARTED IN THE FALL, BUT IT'S CONTINUING, UH, STARTING NEXT MONTH.
AND, UH, ALSO ON THAT, UH, THE REST OF THE STREETS.
UH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT NONE OF THOSE HAVE HAD ANY MORE THAN ONE WATER MAIN BREAK IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.
SO WE'RE NOT PAVING ANY STREETS THAT WE WILL BE REPLACING WATER MAIN ANYTIME SOON.
UH, THE PROGRAM IS NOT TO EXCEED, UH, $1.9 MILLION.
UH, THIS IS DEDICATED MONEY FROM THE STREET LEVY AND FROM GAS TAX MONEY.
UM, AND AFTER WE BID THIS, WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO COUNSEL FOR AWARD.
ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW THIS IS, WE SEE THIS EVERY YEAR.
AND NEXT WE HAVE ITEM THREE H, WHICH
[ 2024 Sidewalk Program And Concrete Portion Of 2024 Street Program - Solicit Bids]
IS THE 2024 SIDEWALK PROGRAM AND THE CONCRETE PORTION OF THE STREET PROGRAM.UH, THIS ONE'S ANOTHER YEARLY, UH, PROGRAM WE DO, AND THIS IS ALSO FOR ADVERTISING AND RECEIVING BIDS.
UH, THE STREET MAP FOR THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM IS ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
UH, THIS YEAR THE SIDEWALK REPAIR IS BETWEEN HARSHMAN V AND BRANT PIKE, AND THEN, UH, NORTH OF LONGFORD UP TO TAYLORSVILLE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE AREA WE'RE FOCUSING THIS YEAR.
UH, LETTERS WERE SENT OUT LAST FALL TO THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA WHO WERE AFFECTED, AND, UH, THEY WERE GIVEN THE CHANCE TO, UH, REPLACE ANY SIDEWALK, UH, LAST FALL IF THEY WANTED TO DO THEM THEMSELVES OR HIRE THEIR OWN CONTRACTOR.
UH, THIS WORK, UH, WILL START IN MARCH, ROUGHLY THROUGH MAY.
AND, UH, UM, IT'S FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO DID NOT DO THEIR OWN.
SO, UM, ALSO WITH THIS, UH, CURB PROGRAM IS, WHICH IS PART OF THE STREET PROGRAM, IT RUNS THROUGH THIS, UH, UH, THE SIDE.
WELL, FIRST OFF, THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM IS NOT TO EXCEED 170,000.
IT'S FUNDED THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE SIDEWALK FUND.
UH, THE OTHER PORTION IS THE CURB REPLACEMENT, AND THAT IS ON GONNA BE A CURB REPLACEMENT.
ALL THE STREETS ARE GONNA REPAVE FROM THE STREET PROGRAM, AND THAT PORTION IS, UH, 950,000 OF THE $1.9 MILLION FROM THE LAST, UH, ONE WE TALKED ABOUT.
UM, AND THIS IS, WE'RE GONNA BID THIS OUT AND WE'LL ALSO BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.
WE ALWAYS SEE, UM, NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.
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I THINK WE DISCUSSED, IF I MIGHT BE WRONG, THAT POSSIBLY GETTING THE LETTERS OUT SOONER FOR NEXT YEAR SO THAT WAY CITIZENS HAVE A CHANCE BECAUSE THE LICENSINGS AND STUFF THAT TO GET THIS WORK DONE BY US SENDING OUT LETTERS IN THE FALL DOESN'T REALLY GIVE THE CITIZENS A CHANCE BECAUSE OF COMING ON WINTER AND THEY'RE KIND OF WRAPPING UP THEIR SEASON TO GET THAT JOB DONE.ARE WE STILL LOOKING AT DOING THAT? UH, THIS YEAR? WE PROBABLY WILL.
UH, ONE OF THE REASON IS HANNAN, WHICH IS THE ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER RUNS THE STREET PROGRAM, SIDEWALK PROGRAM, AND SHE HAS TO GO OUT AND MARK ALL THE SIDEWALKS AND EVERYTHING WHILE SHE'S INSPECTING THE OTHER WORK THAT'S GOING ON.
THE NEW STUFF THAT'S BEING PUT IN.
SHE, IT'S KIND OF A TIMING THING.
SHE GETS IT ALL TRIES TO GET IT DONE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE, BUT THERE'S SET, UH, DATES THAT WE SET TO TRY TO MEET, UH, ALSO BECAUSE, UH, WELL FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR IT'S FOR, UH, GETTING THE ASSESSMENTS OUT.
SO, UM, THERE WE HAVE TIMEFRAMES, BUT IF WE ARE POSSIBLY GETTING A NEW ENGINEER THIS YEAR, I'M HOPING THAT THEY CAN HELP WITH SETTING UP THE NEXT YEAR'S PROGRAM.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN START A LITTLE EARLIER.
SO, BECAUSE I JUST KNOW WHEN OURS GOT DONE, BY THE TIME WE GOT THE LETTER AND I STARTED MAKING PHONE CALLS TO COMPANIES, THERE'S LIKE, WE'RE WINDING DOWN THE SEASON, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET IT UNTIL NEXT APRIL-ISH OR MAY.
AND AT THAT POINT, YOU GUYS WERE JUMPING IN TO DO IT.
AND SO IT DOESN'T REALLY GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO ACTUALLY DO IT ON THEIR OWN IF THEY CHOOSE TO.
SO I'M HOPING NEXT YEAR WE CAN TRY TO START A LITTLE EARLIER.
I WOULD LIKE THE RESIDENTS TO HAVE MORE TIME TO SAVE.
SO GIVEN 'EM A BILL RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, WELL THAT, THAT IT IS HURTFUL.
WE DO SEND A LETTER OUT IN THE SUMMER, LATE SUMMER, AND THEN ON THAT, THERE'LL BE AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT AND THE, THEY WON'T GET BILLED FOR A WHOLE YEAR.
AND WHEN IT'S COMPLETED, WE BILL THEM THE ACTUAL AMOUNT.
IT ENDED UP BEING USUALLY IT EVERY YEAR EXCEPT ONE OUTTA THE LAST 25 YEARS, IT'S BEEN LOWER THAN THE ESTIMATE WE GIVE THEM ON THE LETTER.
SO, UM, THAT GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO SAVE FOR A YEAR, AND THEN ALSO IN THAT THEY CAN, UM, NOT PAY AND PUT IT ON AN ASSESSMENT FOR FIVE YEARS ON THEIR PROPERTY TAXES.
THAT COST IS SPLIT UP FOR FIVE YEARS.
I JUST WANT THEM TO HAVE THE MOST OPPORTUNE TIME TO, TO BE ABLE TO, YOU JUST CAN'T SPRING A LARGE EXPENSE ON A FAMILY THESE DAYS.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY.
[ Crosswalk Stamping - Solicit Bids]
STAMPING AND SOLICITING THOSE BIDS.YEAH, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE WE'RE GOING OUT TO BID FOR.
WE, WE STARTED THIS LAST FALL, UH, WHEN WE PAVED BRAND PIKE, UH, WELL ODOT PAVED BRAND PIKE.
AND IT WAS COMPLETED PRETTY MUCH LATER IN THE YEAR.
UM, THEY, AT THAT POINT, THEY, UH, UH, WE HAD LOOKED AT FOUR INTERSECTIONS ON BRANT PIKE AND ONE INTERSECTION ON OLD TROY PIKE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
UH, I DID INCLUDE A STREET MAP IN YOUR PACKET THAT SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THESE, UH, STAMPED CROSSWALKS, INTERSECTIONS WE WANNA PUT IN.
UH, THIS WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THE CROSSWALKS WE DID, THE CROSSWALK WE DID AT, UH, BRANT PIKE IN CHAMBERSBURG, UH, IN, UH, TWO, UH, 2021.
UM, AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, I DID TRY TO GET QUOTES AND WE COULD ONLY FIND TWO LOCAL CONTRACTORS WHO COULD DO THE WORK.
AND, UM, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO NOW IS ACTUALLY GO OUT FOR A FORMAL BID.
'CAUSE AT THE TIME, UH, THE TWO THAT CAME IN, WE REALIZED IT WAS A DIFFERENT PROCESS USED FROM ONE FOR THE OTHER.
AND THIS WAY, IF WE DO A FORMAL BID, WE'LL GIVE THEM THE EXACT SPECIFICATIONS ON WHAT WE WANT, AND IT'S GONNA BE TO MATCH THE ONES THAT WERE AT CHAMBERSBURG AND BRAND.
UM, SO WE'D LIKE TO DO WITH AN RRFP OUT TO, UH, ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO BID ON THIS, WE'RE HOPING WE CAN, UH, THAT WOULD DIRECT IN OR BRING IN MORE CONTRACTORS WHO WOULD LIKE TO BID ON IT.
AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A NOT TO EXCEED OF 270,000 FOR THIS.
AND, UH, WE WILL BRING THIS BACK WHEN WE, UH, AFTER WE BID IT.
SO, I MEAN, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT ON THE LIST NOW, BUT THAT'S STILL MISCONCEPTION THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THIS.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO THAT, UH, AFTER THAT, AFTER EVERYTHING'S DONE OUT THERE.
YEAH, I JUST WANT, SO THAT IT'S SEPARATE BUDGET ITEM, SEPARATE IT, IT'S GONNA BE WITH THE WIDENING PROJECT.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WAS STILL ON THE RADAR.
NANCY, WHAT ABOUT TAYLORSVILLE? UH, I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THAT ONE IN TOO.
OTHER QUESTION? YES, ANITA, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN SEE THE SPECS BEFORE WE GO VOTING ON THIS? JUST SO WE MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S EXACTLY RIGHT BECAUSE THERE WAS THE DIFFERENT PROCESSES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S YEAH, I CAN SEND THIS BACK OUT TO, TO, UH, TONY AND SEND IT OUT TO COUNSEL.
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ANY OTHER QUE YES.I JUST, I DON'T WANNA ASSUME I, I KNOW, BUT, BUT STAMPING, UH, I THINK OF STAMPING AS AS MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE.
CAN YOU JUST FOR ANYBODY WATCHING OR ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T KNOW BRIEFLY EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS? YEAH.
WHAT THEY DO IS ON, UH, RIGHT NOW, THOSE INTERSECTIONS HAVE THE WHITE LINE SHOWING THE CROSSWALK.
THIS COMPANY COMES IN AND THEY, I BELIEVE THEY HEAT THE PAVEMENT UP AND THEN THEY STAMP THE ASPHALT AND THEN THEY ADD COLOR TO IT TO CREATE WHAT, WHAT'S SHOWN AT WHAT'S AT CHAMBERSBURG AND BRAND.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT.
I THINK, UH, ONE, THE ONE WE'RE GONNA BE DOING IS A BETTER METHOD THAN THE OTHER ONE THAT WE, UH, HAD A HAD A QUOTE FOR.
AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING THE RIGHT ONE.
AND, UH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT IT IS.
IT TAKES SPECIAL EQUIPMENT TO DO IT.
THIS IS FOR BEAUTIFICATION AND MORE VISIBILITY.
IN FACT, I THINK WHEN THAT WAS DONE AT BRANT, I THINK I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, WHEN THAT WAS DONE AT BRANT AND UM, IN CHAMBERSBURG, I SAW MORE COMPLIMENTS AND MORE PEOPLE APPRECIATIVE OF THAT BEING DONE.
'CAUSE AGAIN, I THINK WHEN PEOPLE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE SPACE THEY LIVE IN, THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD THING.
AND, UH, AND AGAIN, WHEN YOU JUST LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'VE DONE THAT YOU THINK WOULD'VE GOT A, A MUCH BIGGER WAY TO GO, I MEAN, JUST THAT STAMPING AT THAT INTERSECTION WAS, UH, WAS A PRETTY TREMENDOUS RESPONSE BY THE, BY THE COMMUNITY.
SO I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE THIS.
AND IT'S HOLDING UP VERY WELL.
THAT'S WHY WE'D LIKE TO USE THE SAME PROCESS.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA MENTION, RUSS.
REMEMBER, WE, UH, DURING THE DISCUSSION OF THIS, UH, I MENTIONED THAT OUR INTERSECTION AT CHAMBERSBURG AND GRANT SEEMED TO BE HOLDING UP MM-HMM.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE YOU GOING OUT AND FINDING OUT THE DIFFERENCES IN SPECIFICATIONS.
UM, SO THE, THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT WE'LL BE USING WILL BE THE ONES THAT WERE USED AT CHAMBERSBURG AND BRANCH.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OBJECTION? OKAY.
WE'LL SEE THIS MONDAY AND NEXT IS THREE
[ Handicap Ramp Replacement - Different Locations - Solicit Bids]
J HANDICAP RAMP REPLACEMENT AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND SOLICITING THOSE BIDS.UH, THIS PROJECT IS, IS TO INSTALL 35 NEW HANDICAP RAMPS, AND THIS IS AT 19 DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS.
UH, I BELIEVE I DID PUT A MAP IN IN YOUR PACKET FOR THAT TOO.
UH, THIS WORK IS BEING DONE ON OLD TROY PIKE.
BRANT PIKE AND TAYLORSVILLE ROAD.
UM, THE, THESE RAMPS ARE BEING REPLACED BECAUSE THEY DO NOT, UH, THEY'RE, SOME OF THEM ARE HAVE RAMPS, BUT A LOT OF 'EM ARE NOT A DA STANDARD RAMPS.
SO THEY'VE BEEN PUT IN LONG TIME AGO, AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE 'EM ALL UP TO A DA STANDARDS.
UH, WE DID, UH, SUBMIT FOR A FUNDING FROM THE, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANTS, UH, THROUGH, I THINK THAT'S THROUGH MONTGOMERY COUNTY.
AND, UH, WE DID LAST YEAR, WE RECEIVED, UM, UH, I THINK $70,000 IN FUNDING FOR THIS.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT NOT TO EXCEED OF 180,000 TO DO THE WORK.
UH, WE BELIEVE IT'LL BE ROUGHLY ABOUT 150,000 TO COME IN WITH THE BIDS, UM, WHEN WE WILL BRING THIS BACK TO COUNCIL TO LET YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE, OKAY.
[ Carriage Trails Subdivision - Street Dedications]
K, CARRIAGE TRAIL, SUBDIVISION AND STREET DEDICATIONS.FOR THE APPROVAL AND ACCEPTANCE OF FIVE STREETS WITHIN CARRIAGE TRAIL SUBDIVISION, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THERE'S A MAP INSIDE YOUR PACKET AND, UH, SHOWING THE ACCEPTED STREETS ARE SHOWN IN GREEN ON YOUR, ON YOUR MAP THERE, UH, THESE STREETS WERE INSPECTED AND FINAL REPAIRS WERE ALL MADE, AND THE FINAL COURSE OF ASPHALT WAS COMPLETED ON 'EM.
UH, WE DO THIS, UH, WHENEVER THEY GET FAR ENOUGH ALONG THAT WE FEEL THEY'RE COMPLETED SO THAT WE CAN TURN 'EM OVER TO THE ST, UH, CITY TO BECOME PUBLIC STREETS.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT WE MAINTAIN 'EM AND, UH, THEY GET, UH, PLOWED FOR BY THE SNOW.
I THINK WE'RE UP TO MR. ROGERS NOW.
UH, ITEM THREE L, LIQUOR PERMIT
[ Liquor Permit #3079899 - Marathon - 7851 Old Troy Pike]
NUMBER 3 0 7 9 8 9 9 FOR A MARATHON.UH, THIS ONE'S BEEN BEFORE YOU BEFORE, BUT, UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE CLEAR ON THIS PARTICULAR LIQUOR PERMIT, IT IS NOT A, UH, REQUEST FOR A NEW LIQUOR PERMIT OR, UH, UH, A CHANGE TO THE LIQUOR PERMIT IS WHAT IT IS, IS A CHANGE IN THE LLC MEMBERSHIP
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INTEREST FOR THE LIQUOR PERMIT.SO IT'S LIKE THE, THE OWNERSHIP OR THE, THE CORPORATE, UH, MEMBERSHIP INTEREST BEHIND, UH, THE OWNERSHIP OF THE LIQUOR PERMIT.
SO, UH, IF WE WERE TO MAKE AN OBJECTION TO THIS, IT WOULD'VE TO BE BASED ON THE ISSUE OF THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE PERSONS THAT ARE LISTED AS THE MEMBERS.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN PROCESSED THROUGH THE POLICE AND FIRE DIVISIONS.
THERE'S NO, UH, OPEN, UH, FIRE, UH, CODE VIOLATIONS AT THE SITE.
AND, UH, NO CONCERNS FROM THE POLICE ABOUT THE BACKGROUND ON THE MEMBERSHIP, UH, INTEREST.
ANY QUESTIONS? SO IT'D BE A MOTION ON MONDAY TO, UH, NOT MAKE AN OBJECTION TO THE IO DIVISION OF UNDER CONTROL TO THAT CHANGE IN MEMBERSHIP INTEREST.
TONY, CAN YOU TELL US HOW FULLY WE APPROVE LIKE THIS BUSINESS AND THEY COME BACK ON A CYCLE OF EVERY THREE.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? UM, IN THIS CASE, IT'S GENERALLY NOT BROUGHT BACK BEFORE YOU, UNLESS THERE'S A CHANGE IN THE MEMBERSHIP INTEREST.
SO THEY MIGHT, YOU KNOW, UH, HAVE A CORPORATE REORGANIZATION.
THEY MIGHT SELL THEIR INTEREST, UH, TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
SOMETIMES IT'S FAMILY DYNAMICS OR FAMILY BUSINESS.
AND, UH, SOMEONE PASSES AWAY WHO'S AN OWNER AND THE SHERIFF, UH, SHIFT TO ANOTHER PERSON, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
AND IS THIS THE PLACE THAT SOLD SHOTS AND THEY LET YOU GO BACK IN YOUR VEHICLE? I HAVE TO ASK, AND THIS THE PLACE I, I, I BELIEVE IT WAS.
SO WE ARE NOT GIVING 'EM ANOTHER PERMIT FOR THAT, ARE WE? NO, THIS IS, NO, THIS WOULD JUST RETAIN WHAT THEY HAVE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CLARIFYING THAT, SIR.
IT'S, IT'S NOT EVEN UP FOR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CHANGE OF LIQUOR PERMIT.
IT'S JUST, JUST THIS SINGLE PURPOSE.
ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY, WE'LL MOVE THIS ON.
THE NEXT IS ITEM 3M, WHICH IS LIQUOR PERMIT
[ Liquor Perrmit #9556636 - Submarine House - 5376 Taylorsville Road]
NUMBER 9 5 5 6 6 3 6 FOR THE SUBMARINE HOUSE AT 53 76 TAYLORSVILLE ROAD.UH, THIS IS A SIMILAR SITUATION FOR THE SUBMARINE HOUSE ON TAYLORSVILLE ROAD.
UM, AGAIN, IT'S A CHANGE IN THE LLC UH, MEMBERSHIP INTEREST FOR THIS LIQUOR PERMIT BEEN REVIEWED BY BOTH THE POLICE AND FIRE DIVISIONS WITHOUT OBJECTIONS AND, UH, WITH COUNSEL'S APPROVAL, WE'D LIKE TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY FOR A MOTION.
[ Liquor Permit #7058551 - Tandoor India & Pizza - 7695 Old Troy Pike]
LIQUOR PERMIT NUMBER 7 0 5 8 5 5 1 FOR TDO, INDIA AND PIZZA AT 76 95 OLD TROY PIKE.AS THE MAYOR STATED, THIS IS TDO INDIA AND PIZZA ON OLD TROY PIKE.
IT WOULD BE FOR APPROVAL OF A D ONE AND D TWO, UH, LIQUOR PERMIT AT THIS LOCATION.
UM, I THINK MR. WEBB, YOU SAID YOU'VE BEEN THERE OR BEEN THROUGH THE RESTAURANT? YES.
SO, UM, WE JUST BE ASKING FOR APPROVAL.
AGAIN, THIS WAS REVIEWED BY THE POLICE AND FIRE DIVISIONS.
UH, NO, UH, FIRE CODE VIOLATIONS ARE OPEN AT THE SITE.
AND, UM, NO CONCERNS FROM THE POLICE DIVISION ABOUT THE MEMBERSHIP MEASURES.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OBJECTIONS? OKAY, I'LL MOVE THAT ON.
[ Board And Commission Appointments * Citizens Water And Sewer Advisory Board - Appointment]
THREE OH, WHICH IS BOARD AND COMMISSION EMPLOYMENTS.UH, THIS IS FOR THE CITIZENS WATER AND SEWER ADVISORY BOARD.
SO, UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE VACANCIES ON THE, UH, CITIZENS WATER AND SEWER ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH IS PREVENTED A QUORUM, UH, FOR THEM MEETING.
SO WE URGENTLY NEED TO GET MEMBERS ON THAT BOARD TO RESUME MEETINGS.
UM, WE HAVE DONE SEVERAL POSTINGS.
UH, THE ONLY APPLICANT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED TO DATE IS, UH, BEFORE YOU HERE TONIGHT, HAROLD LOKI.
UM, AND, UH, HE WAS INTERVIEWED BY THE CITY'S INTERVIEW PANEL, AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPOINT HIM, UH, TO THE WATER AND SEWER BOARD FOR TERMINATING JANUARY 1ST, 2027.
UH, THE NECESSARY BACKGROUND CHECK WAS COMPLETED THROUGH HUMAN RESOURCES AND WITH COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.
WE'D LIKE TO, UH, PUT THIS MOTION ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY FOR ACTION.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANITA? TONY, CAN YOU GET US A LIST OF LIKE HOW MANY MEMBERS ON THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WERE MISSING? LIKE RIGHT NOW? I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, YEAH, I, I I CAN ALSO, ON THE, UH, WEBSITE, ON THE, UH, BOARD AND COMMISSION SERVICE PAGE, THERE'S A TABLE THAT SHOWS ALL THE CURRENT VACANCIES FOR ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND THE POSTING DATES AND HOW LONG THEY'RE OPEN FOR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OBJECTION.
[ Charter Review Commission]
P, THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.SO AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, COUNCIL APPROVED THE CREATION OF A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION FOR 2024.
SO, UH, I HAVE POSTED, UH, THE, THE CITIZEN, UH, MEMBERS OF THAT COMMISSION AND SEEKING APPLICANTS.
AND, UH, THAT PROCESS IS ONGOING.
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DISCUSS HERE TONIGHT WOULD BE, UH, TO, TO ASSESS COUNCIL INTEREST AND, UH, THE THREE POSITIONS FOR MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO SERVE ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, AS WELL AS, UH, I THINK MR. Z HAS A, UH, UPDATE ON, UH, WHAT WE ANTICIPATE AS BEING THE, UH, CITY STAFF APPOINTMENTS TO THE JURY REVIEW COMMISSION.CAN WE START? WE'LL LET YOU GO FIRST.
UM, SO I HAVE REACHED OUT TO BATTALION CHIEF RUSSELL.
HE SAT ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION LAST TIME.
UM, SO IF COUNCIL WAS INTERESTED IN ENTERTAINING HIM AS A MEMBER, UM, OBVIOUSLY COUNCIL'S REQUIRED ME TO LIVE IN THE CITY.
UH, I'D BE HAPPY TO SERVE ON THE COMMISSION AS WELL IF YOU FEEL LIKE THAT'S VALUABLE.
OTHERWISE, I AM OPEN TO ANY OTHER EMPLOYEES THAT COUNCIL MIGHT FEEL WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
SO, AND WE WERE LOOKING FOR, UH, EMPLOYEES THAT RESIDED WITHIN THE CITY.
ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OR ANY, UH, OBJECTIONS TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM, FROM RICK IN TERMS OF, UH, MR. RUSSELL OR, UH, NO, RICK HIMSELF SERVING AS THE TWO STAFF MEMBERS.
YEAH, SO WE MADE UP OF FOUR RESIDENTS, RIGHT.
THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND THEN TWO STAFF MEMBERS FOR A TOTAL OF NINE COMMISSION MEMBERS CHOICE.
SO, SO THAT WOULD BE THE STAFF MEMBERS.
THEN WE WOULD, UH, NEED TO IDENTIFY THE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WOULD BE SERVING ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
I WOULD BE INTERESTED, I'M WILLING TO IF, IF IT'S AVAILABLE, BUT IF SOMEONE ELSE, I'M, I'M OPEN AND AVAILABLE.
I WOULD NOTE MARK HAS BEEN, I THINK, ON EVERY CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION I WOULD ON THE LAST ONE.
UM, SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN CERTAIN I NEED ANSWER, I'D BE INTERESTED.
MAYOR, I'D BE INTERESTED AS WELL.
ANYONE ELSE? DON? YES, I'M INTERESTED AS WELL.
WE NEVER HAVE THIS MANY VOLUNTEERS.
YEAH, SO THERE'LL BE, UH, SO SAY THERE SIX FROM COUNCIL
YEAH, SO, UH, THE COMMISSION WILL BE MADE UP OF FOUR RE FOUR RESIDENTS, AND THEN THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD BE THE SEVEN, AND THEN THE TWO STAFF MEMBERS MAKE NINE.
SO THAT'LL BE, THAT'LL BE THE MAKE UP.
SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS INTERESTED.
SO, UH, WELL WE HAD FIVE I, OH, WELL, KATE SAID SHE, YEAH, FLEXIBLE WHATEVER.
SO, UM, BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE WAY TO, WELL, I THINK IS, IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE FIVE THAT'S WILLING TO NOT SEEK THE APPOINTMENT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE OTHERS? THE OTHERS THAT ARE ON THE LIST? DON, I'M PERFECTLY WILLING.
UM, AS YOU'LL RECALL, THE MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, SO, UM, IT'S OFTENTIMES BETTER TO COME HANG OUT AND GIVE YOUR CRITICISMS FROM THE GALLERY.
I WOULD ALSO REMIND, UH, THE COUNCIL THAT, UM, ONCE THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION COMPLETES ITS WORK, IT, IT'S RECOMMENDATIONS COME BACK TO THIS COUNCIL FOR ACTION.
SO THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION ON ITS OWN CANNOT DO ANYTHING BUT MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO THE FULL COUNCIL WOULD'VE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, YOU KNOW, BE INVOLVED IN THE DECISION MAKING AND THE ACTION ITEMS THAT COME OUT OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION'S WORK.
IF I COULD HAVE ONE THING, MAYOR, YOU SURE.
I, I WOULD ALMOST INSIST THAT COUNCILMAN CAMPBELL, UM, ONCE AGAIN BE ON THAT, UM, CHARTER REVIEW, UM, COMMISSION, UH, IF FOR NOTHING ELSE, BUT, UM, YOU PROBABLY HAVE THE MOST THOROUGH UNDERSTANDING OF THE CHARTER HAVING WRITTEN IT
UM, AND I THINK YOU WERE INVALUABLE.
UM, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, MY WIFE WAS ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION THE LAST TIME AROUND, AND, UH, SO I FOLLOWED IT QUITE CLOSELY.
MARK, UM, MANY TIMES YOUR ADVICE AND OPINION WAS INVALUABLE.
SO I THINK JUST I WOULD AGREE, DONNIE, JUST FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, I MEAN, UM, I MEAN, HOW OFTEN, I'M NOT COMPARING YOUR AGE TO, YOU KNOW, UH,
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THOMAS JEFFERSON, BUT YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND, AND JOHN ADAMS AND THE WRITERS OF THE CONSTITUTION.BUT HOW, HOW AWESOME WOULD IT BE IF WE COULD HAVE SOME OF THEIR INPUT ON, UM, ON WHAT THEY MEANT BY SOME OF THOSE INTERPRETATIONS?
SO, BUT YEAH, BEING THAT YOU WERE HERE WHEN THE THING WAS WRITTEN, YOU HAVE A GOOD HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE ON WHY CERTAIN THINGS ARE WHAT THEY ARE.
SO AS QUESTIONS COME UP, YOU CAN ANSWER THOSE.
SO I THINK THAT HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE OF OUR CHARTER WOULD BE VERY SIGNIFICANT.
SO I WOULD AGREE WITH DON THERE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THAT, I THINK IT'S JUST ONE MORE PERSON TO STEP AWAY.
SO IS ANYONE ELSE WILLING TO CONSIDER, UM, NOT BEING CONSIDERED? YEAH, SO WE GOT FOUR, FOUR VOLUNTEERS AND WE NEED THREE.
WE HAVE NANCY, ANITA, MARK, AND KATE.
WHERE DO WE, SO, SO WE HAVE TWO, WHERE ARE WE, WHERE DO WE SEEING WITH APPLICATIONS, DO WE HAVE, WE HAVE RESIDENTS.
SO WHAT KIND OF TIME, I MEAN, WE WANNA GET THIS DONE AND STARTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A SITUATION OF TIMING TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE COMMISSION HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET AND ENOUGH TIMEFRAME TO REVIEW THE ENTIRE CHARTER, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO COUNSEL, HAVE TIME FOR THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE VETTED, APPROVED, AND THEN SENT TO THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS 90 DAYS PRIOR TO THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.
SO WE ARE IN KIND OF A, A LITTLE BIT OF A TIME CRUNCH, AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF THE, THE TIME COMMITMENT MATTERS, UH, TO ANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PROPOSING TO BE ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
UH, LIKELY BECAUSE OF THE AVAILABILITY OF THE ROOM, IT WILL BE ON WEDNESDAY NIGHTS.
UM, DID YOU SAY SO TWO OR THREE TIMES A MONTH MAYBE BECAUSE OF, UH, I WOULD SAY LIKE, UH, EVERY TWO WEEKS OR EVERY THREE WEEKS? UH, PROBABLY FOURTH FROM, UH, MARCH TO JUNE WOULD PROBABLY BE THE COMMIT.
SO MAYBE EVERY OTHER WEDNESDAY FROM MARCH TO JUNE.
YEAH, I MEAN, ULTIMATELY THE COMMISSION WILL SET IT'S MEETING SCHEDULE, UM, BUT WE HAVE TO WORK WITHIN THE AVAILABILITY OF THIS ROOM AS WELL AS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TIME CONSTRAINT THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED IN TERMS OF TRYING TO BE DONE BY THE END OF JUNE.
UM, IT'S, IT'S EVERY OTHER WEDNESDAY FROM MARCH TO JUNE.
IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE TO DO IT EVERY THREE WEEKS.
UH, DEPENDS ON HOW FAST YOU'RE ABLE TO GET THROUGH IT, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE MADE, AND THEN IT MIGHT BE EVERY OTHER WEDNESDAY.
AND THEN YOU REALIZE, OKAY, WE, AS WE'RE MOVING THROUGH IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO DIAL IT BACK AND GO TO A THIRD WEDNESDAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE, SINCE WE DID A THOROUGH, A VERY THOROUGH REVIEW THE LAST TIME AROUND, I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A HUGE NUMBER OF CHANGES THIS TIME AROUND.
I, I THINK IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE EASIER THIS TIME AROUND.
SINCE THE RECENT, UM, TERM REVIEW COMMISSION, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND SO THEY MAY HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES OF THINGS THAT WEREN'T DISCUSSED THE LAST TIME.
SO THE PLAN WOULD BE THEN TO HAVE THE APPOINTMENTS OF THE CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL ON MONDAY'S AGENDA.
THEN, UH, FRIDAY IS THE CUTOFF FOR THE, UH, RESIDENT APPLICATIONS.
AND, UH, THOSE WOULD COME AT A MOTION AT, AT THE, UH, SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY.
UM, AND THEN THAT WOULD PUT US ON TRACK TO START IN, IN MARCH AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.
I'M GONNA GIVE EVERYONE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THEIR SCHEDULES, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING STILL WORKS OUT.
UM, WE KNOW THERE'S FOUR PEOPLE WHO HAVE VOLUNTEERED.
WE HAVE THREE SPOTS, AND AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION, WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE FOUR NARROWED TO THREE SO THEY COULD BE AT THE SAME MEETING TO APPOINT THE SAME TIME AS THE RESIDENTS.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WE CAN DO THAT.
SO, UM, WHICH WOULD BE FEBRUARY, 2020 SIXTH.
SO WE'LL APPOINT THE THREE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND THE FOUR MEMBERS OF THE FOUR RESIDENTS AT THE SAME MEETING ON THE 26TH.
I MILES IT JUST THROUGH THE CITY STAFF.
IF THEY'RE ALL DONE AT THE, IF WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE, IF WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE, THE RESIDENCE AVAILABLE UNTIL THEN, WE'LL JUST DO EVERY WAITING ON THE 26TH.
SO WE'LL DISCUSS THIS ONE MORE TIME AT THE, AT THE NEXT COUNCIL WORK SESSION TWO WEEKS FROM THIS EVENING.
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UM, AND WE NEED TO NARROW THAT FOUR TO THREE.AND, OKAY, THAT'S THE LAST THING ON THE ITEM THIS EVENING.
BUT WE, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, WE DO HAVE A NEED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING.
SO, UH, WE WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR TWO REASONS.
UH, THE FIRST TO CONSIDER UNDER OHIO REVISED CODE 1 21 0.22 G FIVE TRADE SECRETS ASSOCIATED WITH CERTAIN LEASES FOR 73 0 1 SHAW ROAD, HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO, 4 5 4 2 4, WHICH ARE CONFIDENTIAL AS TRADE SECRETS UNDER OHIO.
AND THE SECOND WOULD BE A MOTION TO CONSIDER THE DISCIPLINE OF A PUBLIC OFFICIAL UNDER PERSONNEL MATTERS.
IS THERE A MOTION TO GO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION? NANCY, I MOVE TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE RE I SECOND MOVE MOTION.
AND MOTION TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.
WE WILL COME BACK OUT AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION AND NOTIFY IF ANY ACTION, UH, HAS BEEN DECIDED.
WE'VE COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AND NO ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN.
SO AT 9 47 THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.