Jan 22, 2024 City Council Meeting

THANK APPRECIATE NO KID AGE, SMALL WORLD.

THAT WAS SO CUTE.

ALL THE WHILE WAS GONNA ALL THE SPECIAL PAPERS.

HOW ARE YOU? WELCOME.

UM, NOW I'D FOR SOMETHING AGAIN, I'D HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU.

WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS IT? UM, WE'LL CALL YOU TO SPEAK WHEN THAT ITEM COMES OFF.

I'M PROUD TO, UH, HEAR THAT, SIR.

CONGRATULATIONS.

YOU GOOD? SHUT THE DOOR.

SHOULD I CLOSE THE DOORS, JUDGE?

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YEAH, PLEASE.

JUST HAVE THEM SHUT THE DOOR.

THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS ASSISTANCE.

NEXT UP ON

[8. Citizens Comments]

COMMENTS, DONE.

UH, WE JUST HAVE ONE FOR THE GENERAL CITIZENS COMMENTS THIS EVENING, AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, MR. DAVID GOERS.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE.

I WANNA JUST SAY BEFORE I GET STARTED, I WAS ECSTATIC FOR THE FOUR NEW, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE THREE NEW COUNCIL PEOPLE, FOUR BEAUTIFUL AND LARGE FAMILIES.

I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE A HUGE ASSET TO THIS CITY AS I LOOK FOR A FAIR AND DECENT OUTCOME OF MY INQUIRY OF JULY, 2021 TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT RUSTIC WOODS IN TAYLORSVILLE.

I WANT TO THANK CITY ASSOCIATES, MR. ROGERS AND MRS. POWELL.

THEY HAVE BEEN VERY KIND AND INFORMATIVE AS I HAVE HAD MEDICAL SITUATIONS AND FAMILY FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AND CANNOT ALWAYS GET UP TO THESE BIWEEKLY COUNCIL MEETINGS.

ALSO, I THOUGHT THEIR HANDING HANDLING OF THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE FOR THE NEW COUNCIL INDUCTION WAS SUPER NICE.

THAT MAY BE A FUTURE ENDEAVOR FOR TONY AND KAREN.

CONSTITUENTS, THE MAGIC WORD BY COUNCILWOMAN.

ANITA KITCHENS NOT FAMILIAR OR CAN'T AGREE WITH WHAT SHE IS FIGHTING FOR, BUT SHE IS TRYING TO DO WHAT HER TAXPAYERS WANT.

I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING IN THE REST OF THE CITY OR OUR WARD.

I KNOW SCOTT HAS ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON IT.

CONGESTION, CONGESTION, CONGESTION, THE NAME OF THE GAME.

WE HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING TO THE NORTH SHOPPING AREA IN OUR WARD.

GOING TO GET WORSE BEFORE IT GETS BETTER.

MAYOR GORE LAUGHED ABOUT HIM DIRECTING TRAFFIC.

HE MAY, BEFORE IT'S ALL OVER.

LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

YOU MOVED THE CAR WASH FROM ONE CONGESTED AREA TO IN FRONT OF THE NUMBER ONE VOLUME BUSINESS IN THE CITY.

EVERYONE KNOW THAT THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE VOLUME ON THE COUNCIL, OKAY? AS A CITY MAYOR, WE ARE NOT IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS.

THIS WAS BUILT AS A RED BEDROOM COMMUNITY.

ON ONE HAND, YOU'RE SAYING BUYING LAND TO CONTROL WHAT COMES IN.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WITHIN A STRETCH OF FOUR MILES ON OUR TWO MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, WE'VE GOT DUPLICATED BUSINESSES TO THE HILT.

WE WILL HAVE 24 CONVENIENCE STORES WITHIN THAT EIGHT MILE STRETCH.

AND IF YOU, YOU, YOU ARE THE PEOPLE THAT GOTTA PUT THE MEASURES IN PLACE TO STOP THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THE CONTRADICTING RIGHT HAND IS CONTRADICTING THE LEFT, AND, UH, THAT'S IT.

AND YOU, AND YOU THINK I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO GET SOME KIND OF STATUTE FOR YOU, ? I DON'T THINK SO.

I UNDERSTAND WE ARE REACHING OUT IN FOUR TO FIVE PLACES TO FIND $9 MILLION TO BUILD A NEW COUNCIL CHAMBER.

'CAUSE THIS BUILDING IS GETTING TIGHT FOR EXISTING ASSOCIATES.

I WISH WE, ALONG WITH A PELE OF OTHERS TO FIND SOME MONIES TO STEP UP THE ROAD.

AN UNDER LAYMAN PROGRAM.

THE ONLY ONE BENEFITING RIGHT NOW IS MILLER.

I SEEN THE MAYOR TWO WEEKS AGO PATTING HIMSELF ON THE BACK FOR MAKING A PROFIT ON PROPOSED LAND SALES.

BUT I DID NOT HEAR WHERE WE WOULD USE THAT MONEY FOR IMPROVEMENTS.

MAYBE ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE A GOOD START.

THERE GOES MY WISH FOR THINKING OF SOME

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KIND OF HONOR AND PLAQUE FOR OUR FINDING MOTHERS AND FATHERS.

THAT'S IT FOR TONIGHT.

I'LL BE BACK SOME OTHER TIME.

DOES HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO, SIR.

NUMBER NINE, ASSISTANT TREASURER TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS. YES, I HAVE A NUMBER TO SPEAK ON ITEM 12 B.

AND NEXT IS ITEM

[9. Citizens Registered To Speak On Agenda Items]

UM, AND THEN I HAVE ONE TO SPEAK ON.

ITEM 1D.

WHICH ONE? 12 D.

THE CITY MANAGER FOR RICK.

NEXT UP IS ON NUMBER 10, WHICH IS

[10. City Manager Report]

YEP.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UM, GIVE AN UPDATE AS USUAL ON OUR IT SITUATION HERE IN THE CITY.

WE WILL BE CONDUCTING OUR FIRST ROUND INTERVIEWS, UH, WITH IT CANDIDATES NEXT WEEK.

UH, WE DID HAVE MANY, MANY QUALIFIED, UH, PEOPLE APPLY FOR THE POSITION.

UM, WE'VE, UH, NARROWED THAT LIST DOWN TO EIGHT FOR THE TIME BEING.

UM, WE DO EXPECT THE DATA MINING COMPANY TO PROVIDE US AND OUR INSURER WITH A REPORT OF, UH, ANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY, UH, THE CYBER ATTACK, UH, BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.

UM, FROM THAT POINT, THE INSURER WILL TAKE CARE OF ANY NOTIFICATIONS AND CREDIT MONITORING, UM, UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND AFFECTED PEOPLE.

SO I HOPE TO HAVE AN UPDATE FOR COUNCIL BY OUR NEXT WORK SESSION.

UM, AND THEN I WAS NOTIFIED ON FRIDAY THAT MONTGOMERY COUNTY HAS PROVIDED A $25,000 GRANT TO THE CITY, UH, TO SUPPORT NECESSARY EQUIPMENT, UH, THAT WE'VE PURCHASED RELATED TO THE C CYBER ATTACKS.

SO, UH, WE DO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THIS SUPPORT FROM THE, THE COMMISSIONERS WHEN IT COMES TO ENGINEERING.

UH, THE REBID FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY WILL GO OUT ON FEBRUARY 6TH, AND THE BID FOR THE GOVERNANCE AND SENIOR CENTER WILL GO OUT ON FEBRUARY 19TH.

UM, QUICK REMINDER THAT THE MAYOR HAS SCHEDULED A TOWN HALL MEETING NEXT WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 31ST AT SIX 30 TO DISCUSS UPGRADES, UH, TO THE INTERSECTION AT BRANT PIKE AND CARRIAGE TRAILS.

UH, I KNOW LAST WORK SESSION, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WATER BILLS.

UM, I DID REACH OUT TO, UH, THE ADMINISTRATION AT VEOLIA.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REASONS BILLS COULD HAVE BEEN HIGH THIS MONTH ALL RELATED TO THE CYBER ATTACK.

IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THERE WERE, UH, TWO MONTHS BILLED AT THE SAME TIME 'CAUSE BILLS DIDN'T GO OUT.

UH, ALSO POSSIBLE THAT BECAUSE BILLS WERE, UM, ESTIMATED BILLS THAT ONCE METER READINGS WERE COMPLETED, UM, A MORE ACCURATE, UH, NUMBER WAS ACCOUNTED FOR.

UH, I DO ASK ANYBODY WHO HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR UTILITY.

BILL, PLEASE CALL THE BILLING OFFICE.

THAT'S (937) 233-3292.

AND THEN, UH, SAME UPDATE AS LAST WEEK.

UH, CITIZENS CAN PURCHASE DOG TAGS, UH, AT CITY HALL THROUGH, UH, NEXT WEDNESDAY, THE 31ST.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU, RICK.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY MANAGER REGARDING ITEMS IN HIS UPDATE? PROCEED.

OKAY, NEXT UP IS ITEM, UH, UNDERPINNING

[ An Ordinance Approving The Editing And Inclusion Of Certain Ordinances And/Or Resolutions As Parts Of The Various Component Codes Of The City Code Of Huber Heights, Ohio; Providing For The Adoption And Publication Of New Matter In The Updated And Revised City Code As Supplement 16; And Repealing Ordinances And Resolutions In Conflict Therewith. (second reading)]

BUSINESS ITEM 11 A.

ITEM 11 A.

AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE EDITING AND INCLUSION OF CERTAIN ORDINANCES AND OR RESOLUTIONS AS PART OF THE VARIOUS COMPONENT CODES OF THE CITY CODE OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO, PROVIDING FOR THE ADOPTION AND PUBLICATION OF NEW MATTER IN THE UPDATED AND REVISED CITY CODE IS SUPPLEMENT 16 AND REPEALING ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT.

THEREWITH AT THE SECOND READING.

TONY COMMENTS? UH, THIS IS A STANDARD THING I BRING BEFORE YOU.

UH, IT'S AT THE SECOND READING.

UH, IT'S FOR SUPPLEMENT 16, WHICH CODIFIES LEGISLATION PASSED BY COUNSEL IN THE THIRD QUARTER OF 2023.

THANKS.

RECOMMENDATION? THE WORK SESSION WAS ADOPTION.

IS THERE A MOTION? ANITA? MOVE TO ADOPT.

IS THERE A SECOND? FRED? SECOND.

ITEM 11 B, AN ORDINANCE FOR MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR EXPENSES OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS FOR THE PERIOD BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2024, AND ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2024 AT THE SECOND.

AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

NEXT IS ITEM 11 B,

[ An Ordinance For Making Appropriations For Expenses Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio For The Period Beginning January 1, 2024 And Ending December 31, 2024. (second reading)]

READING.

RICK? YES.

THIS IS THE, UH, ANNUAL CITY BUDGET FOR 2024.

UH, THERE IS AN AMENDMENT TO THIS, UM, THAT TONY, OR I'M SORRY, JIM, UM, DID BREAK DOWN FOR US AT THE LAST WORK SESSION.

UM, JUST GETTING SOME MORE ACCURATE, UH, DATA IN THERE.

SO, UH, THIS WOULD BE THE SECOND RATING FOR THIS.

CERTAIN.

AND THE MOTION AT THE WORK SESSION WAS TO AMEND AND THEN ADOPT THIS ITEM THIS EVENING.

SO IS THERE A MOTION TO AMEND THAT? MOTION TO AMEND? AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE AMENDMENT IS A REPLACEMENT OF THE BUDGET ORDINANCE THAT, UH, MR. Z, UH, REFERRED TO, WHICH IS, UH, UH, UPDATED NUMBERS THAT REFLECT THE ENTIRE, UH, OR BUDGET ORDINANCE.

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IS THERE A SECOND TO AMEND NANCY? OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO AMEND ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT.

MOTION TO AMEND CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

NEXT WE A MOTION FOR ADOPTION.

SCOTT, MOVE TO ADOPT KATE.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ADOPTION? OKAY.

MRS. BURS? YES.

MR. AKENS? YES.

MR. LOONEY? YES.

MRS. KITCHEN? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR THE COUGH.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ONE.

NEXT UP UNDER NEW BUSINESSES, ITEM 12.

AND FIRST WE START WITH ITEM 12.

[ A Motion To Establish A Huber Heights Charter Review Commission In 2024 Consisting Of Nine Members Made Up Of Three Members Of City Council, Two City Staff Members, And Four Citizens.]

ITEM 12 A.

A MOTION TO ESTABLISH A HUBER HEIGHTS CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION IN 2024 CONSISTING OF NINE MEMBERS MADE UP OF THREE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, TWO CITY STAFF MEMBERS, AND FOUR CITIZENS.

UH, THIS WAS DISCUSSED AT THE, UH, UH, COUNCIL WORK SESSION LAST WEEK AS A REQUEST TO, UH, INITIATE A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION FOR THIS YEAR.

UM, WITH COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF THIS MOTION, IT WOULD INITIATE THE PROCESS THAT I WOULD BEGIN, UH, RECRUITING MEMBERS FOR THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, UM, AND, AND PANELING THEM TO, UH, MOVE AHEAD IN THAT REVIEW.

UM, DURING THE FIRST HALF OF, UH, 2024.

THE WORK SESSIONS RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION.

IS THERE A MOTION KATE, MOVE TO ADOPT? IS THERE A SECOND? BRIAN? SECOND.

AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? TONY? MR. AKINS? YES.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO AND NEXT IS ITEM 12

[ A Resolution Adopting A Statement Indicating The Services The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio Will Provide To The Territory Proposed To Be Annexed To The City Of Huber Heights Pursuant To A Petition Filed With The Board Of Commissioners Of Miami County By Land Owners (As Defined Below) As Provided By Ohio Revised Code Section 709.023. (first reading)]

ITEM 12 B, A RESOLUTION ADOPTING A STATEMENT INDICATING THE SERVICES TO THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, I'M SORRY, THE SERVICES, THUS CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO, WILL PROVIDE TO THE TERRITORY PROPOSED TO BE ANNEXED TO THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS PURSUANT TO A PETITION FILED WITH THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS OF MIAMI COUNTY BY LANDOWNERS AS DEFINED BELOW AS PROVIDED BY OHIO REVISED CODE SECTION 7 0 9 0.023 AT THE FIRST READING.

RICK COMMENTS? UH, SO THIS IS SIMPLY, UH, A STATEMENT REGARDING WHAT SERVICES THE CITY WILL PROVIDE SHOULD THIS PROPERTY BE ANNEXED? UM, IT'S NOT A VOTE FOR ANNEXATION TONIGHT.

WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT THIS ITEM THIS EVENING.

I KNOW WE HAVE DISCUSSION AND WE WILL GET TO THAT.

UH, MOSTLY HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND NANCY, I MOVE TO ADOPT.

IS THERE A SECOND, DON? I WILL.

AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION AMONG COUNCIL? ANITA? I, I'M OPPOSED TO WHAT WE ARE AGREEING TO.

I FEEL THAT UNLESS WE ARE, I FEEL TAKING CARE OF STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF IN THE CITY I, THE WATER, WHICH EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT I'M FOR, I DON'T FEEL THAT WE CAN GIVE SERVICES TO POTENTIAL PEOPLE MOVING IN.

SO I WILL BE OPPOSED TO THIS AND THE DISCUSSION.

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

AND WE HAVE SOME COMMENTS AS HERE.

SCOTT, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO TOUCH BASE.

UH, I THINK WHOLE COUNCIL HAS BEEN GETTING A LOT OF EMAILS ABOUT THIS.

UM, WE ARE MOVING AHEAD.

I WAS TOLD GET A, YOU KNOW, PRICE COMPARISON AND THE PROS AND CONS ABOUT MOVING THIS FORWARD.

UM, RIGHT NOW, I'M GONNA MOVE TO ACCEPT THIS, YOU KNOW, PROPOSAL JUST BECAUSE THIS IS NOT AN EXTINCTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT JUST TIME TO GET MORE INFORMATION.

UH, AND I DO REALIZE THERE'S A COUPLE OF, COUPLE OF THINGS AND, AND LIKE SCOTT DID INDICATE THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, CONTENTION IN OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS, UM, ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

AND, UM, AND HAVING THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED THAT THIS, UH, UH, UH, A VOTE TO PASS THIS ADOPT, UH, LEGISLATION IS, UM, MOSTLY A MATTER OF LEGALITY.

AND WE DISCUSSED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE DID NOT PASS THIS RESOLUTION OR LEGISLATION.

BUT THIS IS IN NO WAY INDICATIVE OF A VOTE TO, TO APPROVE ANNEXATION TONIGHT, SHOULD THIS PASS.

SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I AM.

AND I'M, I'M A LITTLE STUCK ON IT, BUT, UH, BUT I, BUT I'LL TELL YOU, UM, I WILL SUPPORT THIS WITH, UM, THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WILL HAVE SOME FURTHER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS.

I, I WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE GOING INTO ABOUT ANNEXATION AND, UM, IF THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE.

AND IF NOT, THEN WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL.

HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A, A TOWN HALL AT SOME POINT SO WE CAN DISCUSS AND BRING ALL INTERESTED PARTIES TO THE TABLE.

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THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, WE HAVE CITIZENS' COMMENTS.

HI, NATALIE DONAHUE, 7 8 3 5 AEN BROAD ROAD, BETHEL TOWNSHIP, MIAMI COUNTY.

UH, FIRST UP, I HAVE DONNA HUGHES.

DONNA HUGHES, 93 60 SOUTH MANN ROAD, CHIPS CITY, OHIO, BETHEL TOWNSHIP.

CONGRATULATIONS FOR THE SEVEN NEW POLICE.

'CAUSE I'VE BEEN WATCHING ON PATROL POLICE, AND I KNOW EVERYTHING NOW, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

NOW, MY COMMENT IS, I'M ASKING YOU TO SLOW WALK THIS DECISION OF ANY ANNEXATION, BECAUSE ALREADY THE CONGESTION AND ATION BRANT, I ALMOST GOT CREAMED A COUPLE TIMES.

BETHEL SCHOOL HAS GONE FROM 900 STUDENTS TO 2000 IN LESS THAN 10 YEARS.

WE BUILT A NEW HIGH SCHOOL.

WE BUILT A NEW JUNIOR HIGH, AND WE BUILT A NEW ELEMENTARY.

THOSE TWO NEW BUILDINGS ARE OVER CAPACITY.

NOW, IF THIS PROPOSAL GOES, AND IT STARTED OUT WITH 1300 HOMES WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE PROCE, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE THE MONEY TO GET TO TAKE THESE PEOPLE IN BECAUSE, AND THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO ASSIMILATE TWO BETHEL TOWNSHIP TO HUBER HEIGHTS.

AND WHAT I ALSO WAS ALSO THINKING IS THAT THE POLLUTION OF ALL THE CARS, THE CONCRETE, THE SIDEWALKS, THE BLACKTOP, DRIVEWAYS, AND THE ROADS, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TREES OR GREEN GROWTH TO ABSORB THE CO2 AND GIVE US OXYGEN BACK.

I WANT TO, I WANT THE LANDOWNERS TO GET AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY WANT.

I WANT THE BUILDER TO MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY WANT, BUT I WANT IT DONE ON BETHEL SPECS, NOT TWO TENTHS OF AN ACRE.

THAT INCLUDES THE HOUSE, THE DRIVEWAY, THE SIDEWALK, AND THE ROAD.

WHERE WILL KIDS BE? WHERE WILL KIDS PLAY? BUT I WANT THE BUILDING TO BE, LIKE I SAID, ON ON THE SPECS, THE CURRENT PLAN OF HOUSES, DRIVEWAY, SIDEWALKS, AND ON TWO TENS OF AN ACRE IS JUST TOO SMALL.

BETHEL PEOPLE MOVED THERE, LIVED THERE, CONTINUED TO BE THERE BECAUSE OF THE OPEN SPACES WE HAD.

TWO TENS OF AN ACRE IS NOT OPEN.

THERE'S GONNA BE EXTRA HEADACHES WITH US 40, JUST LIKE THERE IS CONCESSION ON 2 0 2 AND 2 0 1 RAMP PIKE.

AND OH, TROY PIKE.

DOES HUBER HEIGHTS HAVE ENOUGH POLICE? EVEN WITH THE NEW SEVEN THAT YOU HIRED, WILL YOU HAVE ENOUGH TO COVER THOSE 13 MINIMUM NEW HOMES? DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH TRUCKS, POLICE PEOPLE? ALL THIS COST FOR THE RAPID GROWTH THAT THIS WILL HAVE, THIS CONTINUED GROWTH WILL NOT HELP THE CARRIAGE TRAIL TO PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A HOME.

THEY'RE NOT HUBER, THEY'RE NOT BETHEL, THEY'RE HUBER BETHEL.

THEY ARE DIVIDED WITH THEIR LOYALTY.

I ALSO WANT ABOUT ALLIANCE, I'M SORRY, A A, UH, I'LL SKIP THAT WORD.

AND WHAT IS THE COST? WHAT'S THE ROI ON THIS EXPANSION AND WHY, WHY DO YOU WANT TO GO INTO ANOTHER COUNTY, A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT TOWNSHIP? YOU HAVE PLENTY OF PLACES HERE.

BUILD YOUR CITY.

I'VE HEARD HOW THE STREETS ARE NOT MAINTAINED OR THE DISRUPTION YOU HAVE WITH WHAT YOU'VE GOT.

NOW, DON'T INVADE US.

DON'T INVADE US LIKE DAYTON DID YOU, WE WERE THRILLED.

EXCUSE ME.

I WAS THRILLED WHEN HUBER BECAME A CITY.

I LOVED HAVING A NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE, MY NEIGHBOR OF HUBER HEIGHTS.

I DON'T WANT THAT NEIGHBOR BESIDE ME NOW.

I LIKE, I ENJOY THE GROWTH THAT YOU WRITE, NOT THE, NOT THE CONGESTION, BUT I'M, SO I'M ASKING YOU, PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT'S GONNA COST YOU.

WHAT ARE YOU GETTING BACK? AND I'M SORRY FOR USING THE WORD INVASION, BUT THAT'S HOW I FEEL WHEN I LOOK OUT AND SEE ALL THESE CARS IN THESE HOMES THAT WEREN'T THERE.

AND WE MOVED THERE.

I MEAN, MY FAMILY'S BEEN THERE SINCE THE 1920S, NOT AS LONG AS SOME, BUT SOMEBODY'S ALWAYS STAYED THERE BECAUSE THEY LIKED THE OPENNESS, THEY LIKED THE, AND I WAS TELLING ONE NEW IMMIGRANT THAT HE BOUGHT THE PLACE, AND I SAID, OH, THAT BARN WAS WHERE WE PLAYED BASKETBALL, WHATEVER.

AND HE LIKE, WHAT? LIKE, THERE'S HISTORY THERE AND THE NEW PEOPLE WILL BE ABSORBED IN THAT HISTORY, BUT NOT AT THE RATE THAT YOU'RE BUILDING, NOT AT THE RATE THAT YOU'RE COMING INTO OUR TOWNSHIP.

AND I REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHO'S GONNA PUT THE WATER IN.

SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME, AND AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR SEVEN NEW COPS.

NEXT UP WE HAVE NATALIE DONAHUE.

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FIRST, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU, UM, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK AT THE COUNCIL MEETING TONIGHT, UM, AS I AM A RESIDENT FROM ANOTHER COUNTY AND TOWNSHIP, BUT I ALSO WANNA WELCOME ALL THE NEW, UH, FACES.

UM, I'VE SPOKEN HERE BEFORE MANY TIMES OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF OR SO, AND I WELCOME EVERYBODY AND I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT YOU WANNA CONTINUE TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT ANNEXATION.

I REALIZE THAT THE RESOLUTION TONIGHT IS THE FIRST, A FIRST STEP, AND IT'S THE FIRST READING, AND I KNOW IT'S PART OF THE PROCESS, BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ASK, AS YOU THINK FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS DOES TO YOUR NEIGHBOR AND THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF HUBER HEIGHTS, CURRENT RESIDENTS.

EXCUSE ME, IF HUBER HEIGHTS, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT HUBER HEIGHTS HAS EVERY RESIDENT THAT'S HERE NOW HAS EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED AND THEY'RE WELL TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE YOU MOVE INTO ANOTHER AREA AND START CONSUMING LAND FOR BUILDING AND DEVELOPING ADDITIONAL RESIDENTS.

UM, THERE'S REALLY NO WIN-WIN SITUATION FOR EITHER SIDE.

HONESTLY, I DON'T FEEL, BECAUSE THE CURRENT RESIDENCE OF HUBER MIGHT MISS OUT ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED BECAUSE THE FOCUS IS ELSEWHERE.

AND THEN BETHEL TOWNSHIP WILL BEAR THE BRUNT AND THE BURDEN OF EVERYTHING THAT'S TO COME.

I, I CAN'T FIND A PARTICULAR REASON THAT THIS IS A BENEFIT TO BETHEL TOWNSHIP.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE PART OF THIS, UM, 296 ACRES, I GET IT, THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEIR LAND.

AND THEY'VE COME AND ASKED, AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE ACTION.

BUT THE ACTION CAN BE TO SAY NO, SIMPLY SAY NO TO ANNEXATION.

UM, AGAIN, THERE'S THIS FARMLAND.

WE NEED TO PRESERVE THAT.

ONCE IT'S GONE, IT'S GONE.

WE NEVER GET IT BACK.

AND THAT'S A, A KEY STAKE TOO.

YES, WE CHOSE A RURAL WAY OF LIFE.

WE LIKE THAT IT IS CONGESTED.

IT IS HARD TO GET TO HUBER EVEN TODAY.

I CAN'T IMAGINE LOADING UP THE 2 0 1, 2 0 2 BRANT, TROY, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, BETWEEN US 40 AND HERE.

ANY FURTHER.

IT IS SOMETHING ELSE.

AND I WILL SAY, UM, IT'S, I FEEL LIKE IT'S EVEN MADE YOUR BUSINESSES ALL THE NEW STUFF THAT YOU HAVE BEEN PUTTING IN, IT'S HARD TO GET TO.

IT'S HARD TO MANEUVER AND IT JUST MAKES IT LESS APPEALING EVEN TO THE CURRENT PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE AREA.

SO PLEASE CONSIDER VOTING.

NO.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT UP IS TANYA WELLS.

UH, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK AT YOUR COUNCILS MEETING TODAY.

UM, A FEW OF YOU ALREADY KNOW WHO I AM AND THAT I AM AGAINST ANNEXATION OF THE BETH TOWNSHIP LAND.

UM, FOR, FOR THOSE NEW MEMBERS, UM, NEW FACES, I, I AM A BETHEL TOWNSHIP RESIDENT OF ALMOST 15 YEARS.

UH, WE PURCHASED MY HUSBAND'S FAMILY HOME, BUT I'M ALSO A FORMER HUBER RESIDENT, HAVING GRADUATED FROM WAYNE IN 92.

UM, I, THIS IS A SECOND FILING FOR MOST OF YOU.

SO JUST WITH ADDITIONAL ACREAGE SO YOU HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S THERE.

EVEN THOUGH THE PROCESS IS A NEW PROCESS, I'M NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT THE WHAT CAN HAPPEN TO SCHOOL, THE TRAFFIC, THE STRAIN ON ALL THE SERVICES.

BUT I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT THE HOUSING, JUST LOOKING AT THE HOUSING CONSTRUCTION ALONE IN HUBER HEIGHTS IS ALREADY EXPLODING.

SO WHY ARE WE GOING TO ANOTHER COUNTY TO GET EVEN MORE HOMES? AS IT STANDS, 850 APARTMENTS ON THE NEWLY PURCHASED LANDOWNER EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD ARE IN THE WORKS OR POTENTIAL 120 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON 15 ACRES.

AND HEATHER MOORE 288 APARTMENT COMPLEX AS PART OF THE MEADOWS 97 RESIDENTIALS AT ADDITIONS AT WAVERLEY PLACE, 29 OR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, 34, 2 FAMILY HOMES, 42 POTENTIAL TOWN HOMES AT THE GABLE OF HUBER HEIGHTS.

THAT'S ALREADY OVER 1300 HOMES.

WE'RE ALMOST LOOKING AT DOUBLE THAT WHEN YOU ADD IN CARRIAGE TRAILS.

SO THAT'S NOT EVEN COUNTING THE FACT THAT HOW MANY NEW BUSINESSES ARE YOU HAVING? YOU HAVE POTENTIAL, THE CAMPGROUND THAT YOU'RE WINNING.

ALL OF THIS IS WITHIN YOUR AREA, YET YOU'RE WANTING TO MOVE OVER HERE.

NOW, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS JUST A SERVICES AGREEMENT, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T STOP THIS RIGHT HERE.

AND NOW, BECAUSE I SAY THIS FOR TWO REASONS.

ONE FROM A FACEBOOK POST FROM MR. GORE IN JUNE 22ND OF 23.

HE STATES, IF MRS. KITCHEN HAD NOT MADE THE NOTION TO RECONSIDER HER VOTE, THE ANNEXATION WOULD'VE DIED BACK IN 2020 BECAUSE THE SERVICES AGREEMENT WOULD NOT HAVE PASSED.

AND THAT IS THE REQUIREMENT

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TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO GIVEN THE MAKEUP OF THE COUNCIL, NOW, THAT HAS SINCE CHANGED WHEN HE TOOK IT OFF THE TABLE AT THE TIME, NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A NEW MAKEUP.

SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO? I DO UNDERSTAND THAT YES, THERE VERY WELL COULD BE LEGAL ACTION.

THERE COULD BE LEGAL ACTION.

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

MY QUESTION IS, IS HOW, WHAT ARE THE GROUNDS? IS IT YOUR 'CAUSE OF YOUR CITY CHARTER DOESN'T HAVE THAT.

WELL, WE WANT GROWTH.

I THINK YOU'VE MET THAT REQUIREMENT.

THIS ISN'T A CHECK OF THE BOX, NOT LIKE THE MIAMI COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WHO THEY LEGIT HAVE TO HAVE CHECK, CHECK, CHECK.

DEVELOPERS HAVE DONE THEIR CHECKS.

THEY HAVE TO SAY YES.

SERVICES AGREEMENT IS NOT A HAVE TO SAY YES.

AND THE REASON I KNOW THAT IS BECAUSE NEW CARLISLE SAID NO.

THEY SAID NO.

THEY SAID NO TO ANNEXATION OF BETHEL TOWNSHIP LAND.

AND THEY DID THAT BECAUSE THEY KNEW IT WAS THE RIGHT THING FOR THEIR CONSTITUENTS, THE RIGHT THING FOR THEIR COMMUNITY, AND THE RIGHT THING FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS.

SO I'M GONNA ASK YOU, EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE HAD YOUR WORK SESSION TODAY, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TODAY, ARE YOU GONNA STOP THIS AND DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR YOUR COMMUNITY, YOUR WARD AND THE NEIGHBORS? OR ARE YOU GONNA GO AHEAD AND LET THE DEVELOPER AND THOSE OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES GO AHEAD AND VOTE FOR YOU? THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE, UH, JEFF MORFORD.

GOOD EVENING, JEFF MORFORD, BESSEL TOWNSHIP, MIAMI COUNTY.

I BELIEVE ANNEXATION LAWS WERE ESTABLISHED TO HELP TWO CONNECTED COMMUNITIES WITH SIMILAR GOALS AND VISIONS, GIVING THEM THE ABILITY TO COMBINE LEGALLY, USUALLY SMALLER COMMUNITY, REQUESTING TO BE ANNEXED INTO A LARGER NEIGHBORING CITY, SEEKING HELP FROM THE LARGER CITY, LOOKING FOR GOVERNING HELP FROM A LARGER, MORE ESTABLISHED AND EXPERIENCED MUNICIPALITY LOOKING FOR FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES, LOOKING FOR POLICE PROTECTION, LOOKING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER, AND SEWAGE, LOOKING FOR IMPROVED EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.

THIS CURRENT REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION IS NOT IN NEED OF ANY OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS.

GOVERNING IS PROVIDED BY BETHEL TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES AND THE MIAMI COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, AS HAS BEEN FOR OVER 250 YEARS.

FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES ARE PROVIDED BY BETHEL TOWNSHIP.

POLICE PROTECTION IS PROVIDED BY MIAMI COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

WATER AND SEWAGE WILL BE PROVIDED BY MIAMI COUNTY, NOT HUBER HEIGHTS.

EDUCATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY BETHEL SCHOOLS.

AS WITH PAST ANNEXATIONS, NOT HUBER HEIGHTS SCHOOLS.

THE ONLY THING DEVELOPERS ARE IN NEED OF IS THE HIGH DENSITY ZONING.

HUBER HEIGHTS OFFERS ANNEXATION LAWS ARE BEING MANIPULATED AND ABUSED BY DEVELOPERS TO DRIVE THEIR QUEST TO DO BUSINESS WITHOUT REGARD TO THE WISHES OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.

DECISION MAKING IS A PROCESS WHERE WE GATHER INFORMATION, WEIGH THAT INFORMATION, AND THEN DECIDE WHAT RIGHT IS.

IT IS RELATIVELY EASY TO MAKE FACTUAL MATHEMATICAL DECISIONS, ADDING AND SUBTRACTING NUMBERS.

THE HARD DECISIONS ARE MORAL DECISIONS AND ETHICAL DECISIONS.

YOUR DECISION ON ANNEXATION IS MUCH MORE COMPLEX.

YOU CANNOT ONLY DECIDE WHAT IS BEST FOR YOUR CITIZENS.

YOU MUST TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY, HOW OUR COMMUNITY CHOSE TO LIVE AND THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO.

BECAUSE WE HAVE NO VOICE, WE HAVE NO LEGAL LEGALLY OBJECT, A WAY TO E LEGALLY OBJECT.

SO WE MUST RELY ON YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AS THEY DID IN NEW CARLISLE.

WHEN YOU VOTE ON ANYTHING RELATED TO BETHEL TOWNSHIP ANNEXATION, DON'T LOOK LEFT OR RIGHT TO SEE HOW YOUR COLLEAGUES ARE VOTING.

LOOK STRAIGHT AHEAD AND INTO THE MIRROR BECAUSE YOUR VOTE WILL HAVE A MORAL AND ETHICAL IMPLICATIONS.

WHAT LIFE LESSONS HAVE YOUR PARENTS TAUGHT YOU? WHAT LIFE LESSONS ARE YOU TEACHING YOUR CHILDREN? WILL YOUR PARENTS AND YOUR CHILDREN BE PROUD OF YOUR DECISIONS? PLEASE LIVE YOUR LIFE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IS GOOD, FAIR, AND JUST.

I HAVE STATED BEFORE, WE ARE A DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY.

I ASK THAT YOUR ACTIONS BE CONSIDERATE OF YOUR FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS.

I BELIEVE THERE'S NOT ONE PERSON AMONG YOU THAT DOES NOT SEE THE PROBLEM AND SEE HOW BETHEL TOWNSHIP IS BEING BULLIED AND TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.

IF YOU VOTE YES, YOU'RE PART OF A SYSTEM WILLING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A SITUATION AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A SMALL COMMUNITY LESS FORTUNATE THAN YOURS, THAT LEGALLY HAS NO VOICE.

AND THAT'S THE REAL PROBLEM.

WE HAVE NO VOICE, RIGHT IS RIGHT, WRONG IS WRONG JUST BECAUSE IT'S A LAW THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT

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RIGHT.

PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE CITIZENS OF BETHEL TOWNSHIP ARE AGAINST FURTHER ANNEXATION.

THE THREE BETHEL TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES REPRESENTING 5,000 BETHEL RESIDENTS ARE AGAINST ANNEXATION.

THE THREE MIAMI COUNTY COMMISSIONERS REPRESENTING 110,000 MIAMI COUNTY RESIDENTS ARE AGAINST THIS ANNEXATION, ESPECIALLY ACROSS COUNTY LINES.

PLEASE BE THAT PERSON THAT GIVES UP YOUR SEAT AT THE ON THE BUS TO SOMEONE WHO NEEDS IT MORE THAN YOU.

PLEASE BE THAT PERSON WHO SHOVELS YOUR NEIGHBOR'S SIDEWALK.

PLEASE BE THE PERSON WHO HELPS A SINGLE MOM IN FRONT OF YOU AT THE CHECKOUT LINE STRUGGLING TO GATHER ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY THE GROCERY BILL.

PLEASE BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND ASK AND ASK, HOW CAN WE HELP YOU? PLEASE AFFORD OUR COMMUNITY THE ABILITY TO TRAVEL DOWN THE PATH OF OUR CHOICE AS YOUR COMMUNITY HAS THE ABILITY TO CHOOSE THE DIRECTION THAT SUITS YOU.

YOUR NEED TO GROW AND EXPAND IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS OUR DESIRE TO MAINTAIN AND PRESERVE WHAT WE HAVE.

GROWING AT THE PACE THAT IS OUR COMMUNITY IS COMFORTABLE WITH.

IT IS OBVIOUS THAT OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT VIEWS.

PLEASE VOTE NO TO ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH ANNEXATION.

AS ALWAYS, I LEAVE YOU WITH THE GOLDEN RULE.

DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU.

YOU WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND I REALLY HOPE YOU TAKE IT TO HEART BECAUSE THAT GROWTH IN CARRIAGE TRAILS, UM, HAS RESULTED IN A LOT OF GROWTH IN OUR COMMUNITY.

NEXT UP IS JULIE REESE.

GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

JULIE REESE, BETHEL TOWNSHIP, MIAMI COUNTY HERE TO OPPOSE ANNEXATION.

IN FULL DISCLOSURE, I AM A TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE.

AND WHILE ALL OF THE TRUSTEES STAND FIRMLY AGAINST ANNEXATION, I'M NOT HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE TRUSTEES, BUT INSTEAD ONLY AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN.

FIRST, WELCOME TO THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A VERY SORE SUBJECT AND A VERY TOUGH SUBJECT FOR THOSE IN BETHEL TOWNSHIP.

I REALIZE THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING ONLY ON SERVICES THIS EVENING.

I'M ENCOURAGING YOU TO DECLINE ANNEXING ANOTHER 296 PLUS ACRES OF OUR LAND, THEREBY NOT NEEDING TO PROVIDE ANY SERVICES.

I GIVE YOU THE FOLLOWING ARGUMENTS.

ONE DEFINITION OF TYRANNY IS CRUEL, UNREASONABLE, OR ARBITRARY USE OF POWER OR CONTROL.

THIS IS A CASE WHERE HUBER HEIGHTS DOES HAVE ALL OF THE POWER TO US, THE RESIDENTS OF BETHEL TOWNSHIP.

THIS IS A CRUEL USE OF POWER BECAUSE AS A RESULT OF YOUR LOAN DECISION, WE WILL LOSE OUR FARMLAND, OUR SMALL SCHOOL, OUR PEACEFUL ENVIRONMENT, OUR COUNTRY WAY OF LIFE.

AND WITH IT, OUR OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE AS WE KNOW IT, IT IS AN UNREASONABLE USE OF POWER BECAUSE WE HAVE NO SAY AT ALL IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR LAND AND MUST ABIDE BY YOUR DECISION.

IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE THAT IN AMERICA, A REPUBLIC BASED ON DEMOCRACY AND FAIR REPRESENTATION, THAT THIS IS ALLOWED.

IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE THAT A MUNICIPALITY WHO USED TO BE IN THE EXACT SAME SITUATION OF BEING ANNEXED WITHOUT CHOICE WOULD TURN AROUND AND FORCE ANNEXATION AND HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT UPON THEIR NEIGHBORS.

YOU WILL PROBABLY REMEMBER THE PHRASE, NO TAXES WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, WHICH CAME ABOUT BECAUSE THE SETTLERS OF AMERICA WERE BEING FORCED BY BRITAIN TO PAY A TAX WITHOUT HAVING A SAY IN THE ACTIONS OF THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT.

I SAY NO.

ANNEXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION IS THE SAME.

WE BETHEL TOWNSHIP AND BETHEL SCHOOLS ARE PAYING A HEAVY PRICE WITHOUT HAVING A SAY IN THE ACTIONS.

THE LAST PART OF JOURNEY ADDRESSES THE ARBITRARY USE OF POWER.

I REALIZE THAT THIS MAY SEEM LIKE A GOOD DEAL FOR YOU FINANCIALLY.

HUBER HEIGHTS REAPS A LOT OF THE BENEFITS, BENEFITS OF ANNEXATION AND THE TOWNSHIP SHOULDERS.

THE BURDEN OF FUNDING NEW SCHOOL, CLASSROOM SPACE, OVERCROWDING OF ROADS, AND A SHIFT IN THE COUNTRY CULTURE THAT WE ENJOY.

BUT JUST AS YOU EXPECT, NO EX NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, I ASK THAT YOU, I ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT NO ANNEXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.

AND DO NOT USE THE POWER TO FURTHER ANNEX BETHEL TOWNSHIP.

STOP IT HERE TONIGHT BY VOTING NO ON THIS RESOLUTION.

AND PLEASE ALWAYS REMEMBER, REITERATE WHAT MR. MORFORD SAID.

JUST BECAUSE IT IS LEGAL DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT.

LET THE CITIZENS OF BETHEL TOWNSHIP DECIDE FOR OURSELVES HOW TO DEVELOP OUR LAND.

LET US KEEP OUR WAY OF LIFE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

LAST UP, WE HAVE UH, BETH VAN HERE.

ALRIGHT, UM, I'M BETH VAN HERRON.

I AM, UM, BETHEL TOWNSHIP RESIDENT, ALSO A BETHEL TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE LIKE JULIE.

UM, I DID WANNA CLARIFY REAL QUICK, UM, YOU SAID THE BRANT PIKE AND CARRIAGE TRAILS PARKWAY MEETING IS THE 1 31 AT 6:30 PM HERE.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO, UM, WELCOME TO YOUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UM, THIS IS YOUR FIRST RODEO, BUT NOT EVERYBODY ELSE IS HERE.

FIRST RODEO WITH THIS ANNEXATION.

SO, UM, I WON'T REITERATE EVERYBODY ELSE HAD REALLY, REALLY GOOD POINTS.

UM, BUT WE, OUR NEXT TO HUBER HEIGHTS, I'VE HEARD ALL OF YOU SAY OVER THE YEARS THAT

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THAT WE HAVE INCREASED CONGESTION ON OUR ROADS, OUR SCHOOLS ARE OVERFLOWING, WHICH YOU ALL KNOW, BUT YOU HAVE SOME ISSUES HERE.

WE SHOP BETHEL TOWNSHIP RESIDENTS, A LOT OF 'EM SHOP HERE.

THAT'S GREAT.

WE COME TO THE Y HERE, WE JUST DON'T WANT TO BE YOU.

SO PLEASE, I, UM, WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO REJECT THIS SERVICE AGREEMENT KNOWING THAT IT IS ONLY A STEP IN THE ANNEXATION.

BUT YET, THEN AGAIN, IT IS A STEP AND PLEASE BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

YOU, MR. DAVIDSON BROUGHT UP A REALLY GOOD QUESTION LAST TIME IS, WHAT IS THIS RETURN ON INVESTMENT? I MEAN, ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO BUILD 800 HOMES OR 900 HOMES OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS AND THEN NOT BE ABLE TO FIX THE WATER LINES, WHICH IS THE PROBLEM IN MRS. KITCHEN'S DISTRICT IN 20 YEARS OR 30 YEARS? I, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I DO HOPE THAT YOU LOOK AT THE LARGER PICTURE AND I ALSO HOPE THAT YOU, UM, HAVE SAID TO ME MULTIPLE TIMES, WE WANNA BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

WE HOPE THAT YOU DO THAT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

THAT SOUNDS OKAY.

ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM COUNSEL? OKAY, TONY, CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ONE.

NEXT UP

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Negotiate And Enter Into A Real Estate Purchase And Sales Agreement For Approximately 13.88 +/- Acres On Wildcat Road Between The City Of Huber Heights And Grease Magic, Ltd. (first reading)]

IS ITEM 12 C.

ITEM 12 C, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND ENTER INTO A REAL ESTATE PURCHASE AND SALES AGREEMENT FOR APPROXIMATELY 13.88 ACRES, PLUS OR MINUS ON WILDCAT ROAD BETWEEN THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS AT GREECE MAGIC LIMITED AT THE FIRST READING, RICK? YEAH.

THIS IS A PURCHASE AND SALES AGREEMENT TO SELL, UH, THE CURRENT CITY COMPOST SITE WHILE IT IS 13.8 ACRES.

UM, THERE'S ONLY ABOUT THREE TO FOUR USABLE ACRES THERE DUE TO THE TOPOGRAPHY.

SO THANK YOU.

WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION.

IS THERE A MOTION? OKAY, MOVE TO ADOPT THERE A SECOND, SCOTT.

ITEM 12 D, AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND TO STATE THAT THE CITY MAY HEREAFTER PROCEED WITH APPROVAL OF A TAX INCREMENT FINANCING INCENTIVE DISTRICT AT THE FIRST REASON.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO AND NEXT IS ITEM 12 D.

[ An Ordinance To Approve An Economic Development Plan And To State That The City May Hereafter Proceed With Approval Of A Tax Increment Financing Incentive District. (first reading)]

RICK? UH, YES, THIS IS, UH, AS WE DISCUSSED ON TUESDAY, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR WAVERLY PLACE, UM, AND FUTURE TIFF.

AND COUNCIL WORKS SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO PASS THIS ITEM TO A SECOND READING, AND I KNOW WE HAVE SOME DISCUSSION, UH, COMMENTS THIS EVENING.

LET'S SAY THAT ONLY HALF OF THOSE ARE WORKING INDIVIDUALS AND THEY DRIVE OUT TO WORK EVERY MORNING.

UH, MR. CLARK, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS WILLIAM CLARK AND I AM THE, UH, PRESIDENT OF THE HOA OF THE OAKS, UH, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE PROPERTY, UH, THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REDEVELOPING.

UH, I AM A CONCERNED CITIZEN, UM, AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF HUBER FOR THE PAST 14 AND A HALF YEARS.

UH, THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, UH, THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS COME UP.

UH, LAST TIME IT CAME UP, IT, UH, IT DID NOT PASS FOR WHATEVER REASON.

THERE WERE, I KNOW THERE WERE SOME EMOTIONS THAT WERE BEHIND THAT.

THERE WERE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS BEHIND IT.

UH, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS FROM THE OAKS, UM, HER AND HER HUSBAND, MS. CINDY SMITH, SOME OF YOU KNOW MR. BRAD SMITH.

UH, WERE VERY, UH, OUTSPOKEN WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE VISITED THIS COUNCIL ON PA ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS IN THE PAST.

SO I GUESS YOU'LL SEE ME AGAIN AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS ONCE MORE.

UM, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT, THAT THERE'S SO, SO MUCH OBJECTION TO BUILDING DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE OAKS.

NUMBER ONE, I LOOKED AT THE MAP AGAIN, IT'S ALMOST THE IDENTICAL PLAN THAT THEY PROVIDED UPFRONT, 97 UNITS THAT THE DENSITY THERE IS OVERPOPULATE, IT IS TOO CLOSE TOGETHER.

THINGS ARE, UH, IT HAS DENSITY ISSUES.

THERE'S ALSO TRAFFIC ISSUES IF THAT PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED.

YOU HAVE HOME HOMEOWNERS WITH 97 UNITS,

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THEY MEET THE HUBER HIGH, THEY MEET THE OAKS RESIDENCE DRIVING OUT OF THEIR PROPERTY AT THE SAME TIME.

SO NOW YOU'VE CREATED INCREASED TRAFFIC ON BELL FOUNTAIN ROAD AT THE PEAK OF THE MORNING HOUR.

NOW YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN IN THE EVENINGS.

YOU, THOSE, ALL THOSE PEOPLE GOING HOME, YOU RE YOU CREATE THE SAME ISSUE WITH TRAFFIC AND PROBLEMS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR, UM, REVIEW OF THAT WAVERLY EDITION THIS TIME BY SOME OSMOSIS AND SOME GREAT AMOUNT OF, UH, FORETHINKING.

WE SAID WE WERE GONNA PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT NOBODY IN THE HUBER HEIGHTS COMMUNITY WANTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

WE, UH, WE SAID, OH, WE'RE GONNA PAY, WE'RE GONNA, THIS IS A TAX INCENTIVE INITIATIVE, MEANING THAT THE TAXPAYERS OF HUBER HEIGHT PAY FOR THAT.

NOW, IF THAT IS NOT, AND I KNOW THAT YOURE, YOU, UH, REGROUP TAXES OFF OF THAT AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT INITIALLY THERE HAS TO BE SOME OUTGO BEFORE THERE'S REVENUE GENERATED.

AND SO I AM CONCERNED THAT WITH, WITH TAKING A LOOK AT WANTING TO APPROVE A REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT AREA, UH, PART OF IT I UNDERSTAND IS, UH, THE, UM, ELECTRIC COMPANY OWNS OVER THERE.

SO THEY WOULD BE PURCHASING THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THERE'S GONNA BE SOME BRIMS THAT ARE GONNA BE PUT IN TO, UH, KINDA SHELTER THAT, UH, SHELTER THAT AREA.

BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT IT DOESN'T ENHANCE, AND THE HOMES THAT ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM IT ARE QUITE DIFFERENT THAN THE ONES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT ARE TALK, THE DEVELOPERS' TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IN, IN MY, AND THE CLOSEST THING THAT I CAN ASSIMILATE THEM TO ARE CONDOS.

THEY'RE FULL HOMES, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THEY ASSIMILATE CONDOS.

AND THE CLOSEST THING TO US IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS PROBABLY A HALF A MILE MILE, MAYBE A MILE DOWN ON, UM, UH, BELL FOUNTAIN THAT'S FURTHER UP THE ROAD.

THAT IS NOT WHAT OUR COMMUNITY IS TO LOOK LIKE OR DO WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE IF WE'RE, IF THERE'S ANY DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE.

IF THERE'S WANTING TO PUT IN SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES, JUST LIKE THE PROPERTY THAT'S JOINING FOR, WE STILL HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THEM, THE TRAFFIC.

BUT I THINK THAT YOU COULD COME UP WITH A WORKABLE PLAN FOR THAT TRAFFIC.

BUT I, BUT THERE ARE SOME DEFINITE OBJECTIONS TO HAVING THAT HOME, THAT AREA OVER THERE REDEVELOPED FIRST TIME AROUND YOU DECIDED NOT TO.

AND WHERE WE'RE AT AGAIN, IS THE PROBLEM OF DEVELOPING THAT PROPERTY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR, UH, FOR HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

AND, UM, UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR OUR NEW, UH, UH, POLICEMEN THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED TO, UH, TO THE SERVICES.

THANK YOU, JEFF.

OR MAINTAIN THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS THAT WAS NEGOTIATED IN THE OVERALL REZONING PLAN TO BEGIN WITH LAST YEAR.

UH, MAAM, MAKE A COMMENT AND MAY I ASK THAT YOU EXPLAIN TO HIM THAT IT'S NOT A TAX INCENTIVE DISTRICT, UM, THAT THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY ARE NOT BEING USED? YEAH, SO, WELL, SO TWO THINGS.

SO THIS PARTICULAR, UH, LEGISLATION WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR.

SO THE, THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY HAS, HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.

SO THE, THE LEGISLATION THAT'S, UH, IN FRONT OF US THIS EVENING ISN'T ABOUT THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY.

THAT ZONING HAS ALREADY PASSED.

SO WHAT'S BEFORE US THIS EVENING IS TO CREATE THE TAX INCENTIVE, UH, THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING DISTRICT THAT IT'S IN.

SO IT ISN'T A TAX INCENTIVE DISTRICT, IT'S, IT'S A TAX INCREMENT FINANCING.

SO THAT MONEY THAT IS GENERATED OUTTA THAT DEVELOPMENT, UH, IS WHAT WAS EXPLAINED DURING THE WORK SESSION, IS ROUGHLY ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

ABOUT $1 MILLION OF THAT IS WHAT'S GONNA BE PUT BACK INTO THAT DEVELOPMENT ON WIDENING THE PORTION OF BELL FOUNTAIN AT THE ENTRANCE ON BUILDING UP THE BERMS AND THINGS ALONG BELL FOUNTAIN, UH, TO PROVIDE SOME SECURITY OR, UH, SOME MASKING OF THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

SO, UH, AND THOSE THINGS, IN FACT, WERE KIND OF WORKED OUT WITH THE SMITHS BRAD AND CINDY SMITHS LAST YEAR DURING THEIR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER.

SO AS THAT PROJECT MOVED FORWARD, THOSE WERE KIND OF SOME OF THE CONCESSIONS THAT THE DEVELOPER MADE THAT THE CITY AGREED TO, ALONG WITH THE SMITHS AND SOME RESIDENTS OF THE OAKS IN ORDER FOR THAT PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO WHAT'S ON FRONT, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US THIS EVENING IS APPROVING THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING DISTRICT THAT THAT PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT WILL BE IN THAT WILL PROVIDE THE REVENUE SOURCE BACK TO THE CITY AND THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE DEVELOPER PUT IN

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SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL'S VOTING ON THIS EVENING.

AND IF I CAN MAKE ONE OTHER YES, AND IF YOU WANNA MAKE COMMENT YES.

AND YOU REFERENCED THE CONDOS THAT ARE BEING BUILT DOWN ON BELL FOUNTAIN.

THOSE, THOSE WERE APPROVED WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY WOULD NOT DIMINISH THE VALUE OF THE HOMES THAT ARE SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO THEM, WHICH ARE VERY MUCH LIKE THE HOMES IN THE OAKS.

NO, MA'AM.

THEY'RE NOT LIKE THE HOMES IN THE OAKS.

THE OAKS.

OH, YES SIR.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE NEW ONES.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

RIGHT BEHIND IT.

HEATHER MERE DEVELOPMENT.

AND THOSE HOMES ARE VERY MUCH LIKE, UM, LIKE THE HOMES IN THE OAKS.

SO THE HOMES IN THE OAKS AND THE HOMES THAT WOULD BE DIRECTLY ACROSS ON BELL FOUNTAIN ARE ARCHITECTURALLY DIFFERENT.

MEANING THAT THEY, THE HOMES THAT ARE ACROSS, I UNDERSTAND, SIR, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THE VALUE OF THE HOME, THE, THE STANDARDS OF WHICH THE HOMES ARE BUILT IS WHAT THE, THE, THE CONCERN WAS IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO LOOK LIKE THE OAKS BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE OAKS.

I UNDERSTAND.

ABSOLUTELY.

BUT YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THE HOME AND TO NOT DEGRADE THE APPEARANCE OF THE AREA.

AND JUST BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF HOUSE DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE.

SO I COULD ACTUALLY BUILD ANY KIND OF HOUSE THAT WOULD EMULATE THAT AT THAT SAME VALUE.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE HOMES DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET AND ALSO THE ONES THAT WERE IN SILVER OAKS, IS BECAUSE OF THE VAL, THEY BUILT HOMES IN THE SILVER OAK EDITION, PRICED THEM AT 400 PLUS THOUSAND DOLLARS.

NOW, DID THAT DETER, DID THAT, UH, CHANGE THE PRICE OF THE HOMES THAT WERE BUILT IN, IN THE OAKS? NO, AS A MATTER OF FACT, OUR HOMES WERE ALL, SOME OF OUR HOMES WERE ALREADY VALUED AT THAT AMOUNT BEFORE THOSE, WHAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE AESTHETICS THAT THE WAY THE HOMES LOOKED, THE, IF YOU'RE IN A HOA EDITION, HOMES SHOULD HAVE A CERTAIN STANDARD PERIOD, WHETHER IT'S SHUTTERS, WHETHER IT'S DOORS, WHETHER IT'S, UH, SIZE OF LAND.

NOW WE'RE GONNA GO RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.

AND I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT THE OAKS ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT IF I PUT IN THOSE HOMES ACROSS THE STREET, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK, THERE'S NOTHING THAT YOU CAN TELL ME THAT WILL CONVINCE ME THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA LOOK LIKE, UH, I KNOW THEY'RE CONDOS.

THEY'RE NOT GONNA LOOK LIKE, UH, A SINGLE HOME THAT HAS TWO OPENINGS ON THE SAME SIDE WITH A GARAGE.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE REPRESENTED BEFORE.

NOW IF THEY'VE CHANGED THAT, I, I, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT THAT IS WHAT WAS SHOWN BEFORE.

WELL, I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT YOU NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER IT DIMINISHES REGARDLESS OF, OF THE STRUCTURE OF HOW THEY'RE BUILT, THE MATERIALS THEY USE.

IF IT DOES NOT DIMINISH THE, THE VALUE OF YOUR HOMES IN THE OAKS, THEN IT'S HARD TO SAY NO TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE THE STANDARDS ARE BEING MAINTAINED.

AND IT, LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT THE OAKS.

THERE'S GOING TO BE ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF, OF, OF HOUSING IN THE CITY.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND THEY WOULD NOT BUILD THERE IF THERE WAS NOT A DEMAND AS, AS WE HAVE SEEN FROM PARKVIEW AND THE, AND THE OTHER, UH, CONDOS THAT ARE GONNA BE BUILT AROUND THE CITY.

YES, MA'AM.

MS. BURGESS, RESPECTFULLY, I DISAGREE, BUT, UH, AND, BUT, AND SO MY ASK IS THAT HOW WE VOTE TONIGHT ON A FIRST READING, BUT RESPECTFULLY, I DISAGREE WITH THAT.

IT, THAT THE HOMES MAY LOOK DIFFERENT AND WE TALK ABOUT DIMINISHING OF, OF, OF VALUE OF THE HOMES OR THE PROPERTY.

BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T REPRESENT THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

EVERY AREA IN, UH, IN HUBER HAS A CERTAIN DISTINCT LOOKED, AND IT'S BEEN, ALTHOUGH THE HOMES WERE BUILT AT A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, THEY HAVE A DISTINCTION ABOUT THAT AREA, THE WAY THEY LOOK.

AND I NOW I'M FITTING, I'M GETTING READY TO PUT IN THE SAME AREA A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ARCHITECTURAL HOMES AND STRUCTURE.

SO RESPECTFULLY, I I HEAR YOU, BUT I, I STILL DISAGREE WITH YOU.

UH, WOULD YOU CONSIDER GETTING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER WHO WAS HERE AT THE TIME, BRIAN? YES.

AND SITTING DOWN AND US LOOKING AT THE PLANS AND UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHAT THE PARKING DO? ABSOLUTELY, SIR.

ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS, THE BEST OF MY RECOLLECTION,

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WE ADDRESSED.

SO YES, SIR.

SO WE ADDRESSED HOW THE BERM LOOKED AND WE MODIFIED WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO LOOK MORE LIKE THE OAKS.

AND I THINK THAT SOME OF THE HOMES AT THE FRONT OF THE PROJECT ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

MM-HMM.

SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER THE PLANS AND JUST SEE IF IT'S MORE OF YOUR LIKING.

YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH, SCOTT.

MR. CLARK, JUST ONE MORE QUESTION.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE LOT SIZES ARE IN THE OAK OR ANYTHING? HOW DEEP THEY ARE? I USED TO, I'M, I APOLOGIZE.

I THINK THEY WERE 180 BY 90 OR SOMETHING LIKE IN THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT RANGE, BECAUSE THE HOMES IN THE OAKS ARE TWO THOU, THEY HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 1800 TO TWO THOU, 2100 SQUARE FEET.

AND I ACTUALLY, I THINK IT'S 2100 FEET.

IS THE, IS THE, THAT'S, YES.

JUST LIKE WHAT THEY SAID, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, ESPECIALLY OUT ON THE BELL FOUNTAIN ROAD.

I MEAN, ONE HERE IS 206 FEET LONG.

UH, AVERAGE IS ON THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, YOU KNOW, 140, 150 FEET.

SO I, I KNOW THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE MORE UP TOWARDS BELL FOUNTAIN AND THE, THE DUPLEXES ARE MORE, YOU KNOW, GOING EAST OKAY.

INTO THAT PLATT.

SO, YEAH.

BUT DEFINITELY GET WITH, UH, OUR CITY MANAGER AND HE DEFINITELY SHOW YOU SOME OF THE PLANS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, SIR.

THANKS FOR COMING.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAAM.

THANK YOU MR. CLARK.

ANYONE ELSE? YES, KATE, JEFF, JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT MR. CAMPBELL SAID, WE ALSO PUT IN DENSER LANDSCAPE.

SO IT WOULD BE THE, THE MOUNDING AND MORE DENSER LANDSCAPES AROUND THE, THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION.

OKAY, TONY, CALL THE RULE PLEASE.

YES, MINE TOO.

AND THAT'S ALL PART OF WHAT THIS, THAT WE WORK WITH.

MRS. IS GOING TO HELP FUND AND PAY, PAY FOR ALL THAT.

YEAH.

YES, DON.

WELL, I'LL, I'LL JUST FOLLOW UP ON, UH, THE CONVERSATIONS.

I WAS PRESENT DURING, UM, THE TIME WHEN BRAD AND CINDY WERE, UH, YOU BET.

AND, UM, I, I DO WANNA SAY THAT THE DEVELOPER WORKED VERY HARD TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHANGES THAT I RECALL FROM THAT, UH, YOU MENTIONED THE DOUBLE HOMES, UH, WITH THE TWO GARAGE DOORS, THE FRONT PART OF THAT PARCEL.

NOW THE PART THAT, UH, I'LL SAY IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE OAKS IS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

NOW THAT GOES BACK TO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERHEAD, THERE'S AN AREA THERE THAT THEY COULD NOT BUILD ON.

SO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TAKE UP THE FRONT PART ALONG WITH BERMING SO THAT YOU'RE NOT LOOKING OUT FROM THE OAKS AT, UM, UH, A DISSIMILAR PRODUCT ACROSS THE STREET.

SO THE DEVELOPER WENT TO GREAT LANES TO DO BI TO ACTUALLY CHANGE THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.

UH, IN THAT HE PUT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AT THE FRONT, THE MULTIFAMILY AT THE REAR.

THERE WERE A LOT OF CHANGES THAT TOOK PLACE.

AND MAYOR, IF YOU, SOMEBODY WANTS TO CORRECT ME ON THIS, UH, MAYOR OR MARK, 'CAUSE YOU GUYS ARE MORE WELL VERSED IN THIS THAN I AM.

BUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT WITH THIS TIFF AND THE MONEY THAT WILL BE GOING TO THE DEVELOPER, THAT PORTION THAT WILL BE GOING TO THE DEVELOPER IS TO HANDLE A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS THAT CAME UP DURING THAT TIME.

IF YOU REMEMBER, THERE WAS TALK OF, UH, EGRESS AND, UH, UH, ENTRANCE INTO THE FACILITY.

AND SO WE'RE TALKING WIDENING AND WHEN THEY PUT IN THE ISLAND, IT WASN'T JUST FOR AESTHETICS TO, TO MATCH THE OAKS, UH, THE ENTRANCE ISLAND WAS THERE TO HELP CONTROL TRAFFIC, UH, TO GIVE US BETTER FLOW IN AND OUT.

SO THERE WERE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAPPENED THERE TO TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE DEVELOPER WAS ABLE TO COMPROMISE WITH THE FOLKS FROM THE OAKS.

SO TONIGHT, AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS TIFF, UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THERE IS A WAY TO GENERATE THAT MONEY TO ALLOW THAT DEVELOPER TO DO THE THINGS THAT ORDINARILY THEY WOULD NOT HAVE DONE.

UH, THEY, UH, THE IDEA CAME UP DURING THAT DISCUSSION THAT BY TIPPING THIS PROPERTY, WE COULD BE ABLE TO DO THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE PEOPLE FROM THE OAKS WERE ASKING FOR.

SO IF, IF YOU WERE HERE, YOU REMEMBER A LOT OF THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT FROM THE VERY FIRST ITERATION WE SAW UNTIL THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, CAME BACK TO US IN ITS PRESENCE, UH, FORM, IT WAS A VASTLY DIFFERENT PRODUCT.

BUT THE DEVELOPER MADE GREAT STRIDES TO TRY AND MAKE IT FIT IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, MR. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

[01:10:01]

OH, I'M SORRY.

WE'RE MOVING THIS TO THE SECOND READING.

YEP.

SO WE WILL SEE THIS, UH, AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

IT SAYS 12 OR 11 E.

[ An Ordinance Amending Certain Sections Of Part One, Administrative Code, Title Five Administrative, Chapter 171 Bidding And Purchasing, Of The Huber Heights Codified Ordinances. (first reading)]

ITEM 12 E.

AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CERTAIN SECTIONS OF PART ONE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE, TITLE V, ADMINISTRATIVE CHAPTER 1 71, BIDDING AND PURCHASING OF THE HUBER HEIGHTS.

CODIFIED ORDINANCES AT THE FIRST READING.

RICK.

UM, SO AS WE DISCUSSED THIS IS TO ALIGN OUR, UH, PROCUREMENT AND BIDDING PROCESSES, UH, MORE CLOSELY WITH THE STATE LIMITS.

UH, NAMELY, UH, REQUIRING BID BIDDING ON ANY PROJECT OVER $75,000.

ITEM 12 F AN ORDINANCE INCREASING THE SEWER RATES IN SECTION 9 34 0.03 OF THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES OF HUBER HEIGHTS AT THE FIRST READING.

WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO PASS THIS TIME TO SECOND READING.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING TO THE SECOND READING? OKAY.

SAYING NONE.

WE'LL MOVE THIS ON.

NEXT IS ITEM 12 F.

[ An Ordinance Increasing The Sewer Rates In Section 934.03 Of The Codified Ordinances Of Huber Heights. (first reading)]

GREAT COMMENTS SEW.

THIS IS, UH, REPRESENTING AN 8% SEWER RATE INCREASE.

UM, WE WERE PASSED ON FROM TRI-CITIES, A 10%, UH, INCREASE IN OUR COSTS.

UM, BUT THIS WILL ALLOW US TO BRIDGE THAT GAP.

UH, THERE IS A LARGE, UM, WASTEWATER PLANT UPGRADE COMING IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

SO THANK YOUR RECOMMENDATION FROM THE WORK SESSION WAS TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING AND ADOPT THIS ITEM THIS EVENING.

IS THERE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING? FRED? UH, MOTION TO ADOPT THIS FOR A MOTION TO WAIVE, I'M SORRY.

MOTION TO WAIVE THE, UH, SECOND READING? YES.

IS THERE A SECOND TO WA? RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON SECOND TO WAD.

THE SECOND READING.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

MOTION TO WAIVE CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

AND NEXT WE NEED A MOTION FOR ADOPTION.

DON, MOVE TO DOCK TO A SECOND, FRED.

ANITA? UM, RICK, CAN YOU TELL CITIZENS THAT ARE LISTENING HOW MUCH APPROXIMATELY THAT IS AGAIN, SO THEY'LL UNDERSTAND? UH, SO IT'S AN 8% INCREASE ON THE WASTEWATER BILL.

I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER.

I THINK IT'S LIKE A DOLLAR.

$60 $62 62.

ALRIGHT.

I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO HEAR IT AND EVERYTHING.

YEAH.

12 GA RESOLUTION, AMENDING AND OR ESTABLISHING THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS ORGANIZATIONAL CHART AND AUTHORIZING THE NEW PERSONNEL STAFFING LEVELS AS DETAILED BELOW AT THE FIRST READING.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? TONY? MR. DAVIDSON? YES.

ADOPTION ALSO CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

AND NEXT IS ITEM 12 G.

ITEM

[ A Resolution Amending And/Or Establishing The City Of Huber Heights Organizational Chart And Authorizing The New Personnel Staffing Levels As Detailed Below. (first reading)]

GREAT COMMENTS.

UH, SO AS WE'VE DISCUSSED A COUPLE OF WORK SESSIONS, UH, WE ARE ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL POSITIONS TO THE CITY.

I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS ANY OF THOSE, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN, UH, BUDGETED FOR WITH THE, UH, BUDGET THAT COUNCIL HAS PASSED.

IS, UH, RECOMMENDATION THAT THE WORK SESSION WAS ADOPTION MARK.

MOTION TO ADOPT KATE.

ANY DISCUSSION? ANITA, HAVE YOU FOUND OUT ANYTHING FURTHER ABOUT GRANT WRITING? GRANT WRITING? SO THE PLAN THAT, UM, WE'RE WORKING ON INTERNALLY RIGHT NOW IS TO CONTRACT GRANT WRITING OUT.

UM, SO WHILE WE COULD HIRE A GRANT WRITER THAT MAY BE GOOD AT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, THEY MAY NOT BE GOOD AT PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS.

SO, UH, I DO HAVE A, A PUBLIC SAFETY GRANT WRITER, UM, THAT I'VE STARTED HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH AND I KNOW, UH, MS. BURG HAS SENT ME THE NAME OF, UH, A GRANT WRITER ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE.

SO THE IDEA IS TO CONTRACT WITH SOME GRANT WRITERS.

I JUST, I DON'T KNOW THAT A PERSON IN THE CITY IS GONNA BE ABLE TO SPECIALIZE IN ALL THE VARIOUS GRANTS THAT THAT COME UP.

SO I JUST WONDER JUST SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING ON.

RIGHT.

I JUST WONDERED IF YOU WERE IN THAT PROCESS OF GETTING SOMETHING DONE WITH THAT.

YEAH, WE'VE MET WITH ONE VENDOR.

THEY DIDN'T REALLY FIT, UH, THE, OUR NEEDS, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE, UH, BRANCHING OUT TO A COUPLE, COUPLE ADDITIONAL VENDORS.

12 HA RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING AND WE'RE AMENDING THE SALARY RANGES AND WAGE LEVELS FOR EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO AT THE FIRST STREET.

ANY DISCUSSION? TONY.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO AND NEXT IS ITEM 12 H.

ITEM

[ A Resolution Establishing And/Or Amending The Salary Ranges And Wage Levels For Employees Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio. (first reading)]

RICK, BACK TO YOU.

YEP.

SO, UM, WE HAVE INCREASED THE PAY BANS WITH THIS LEGISLATION BY 2.75%.

THAT'S THE COST OF LIVING INCREASE, UH, THAT EMPLOYEES HAVE RECEIVED, UH, IN 2024.

THANKS RICK.

RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION.

IS THERE A MOTION, BRIAN? MOTION TO ADOPT, UH,

[01:15:01]

NANCY.

IYE ITEM 12 I A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR THE 2024 ABATEMENT AND MOWING PROGRAM AT THE FIRST STREET.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION TONY? MR. CAMPBELL? YES.

MOTION ALSO CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO AND NEXT SAYS ITEM 12,

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract For The 2024 Abatement And Mowing Program. (first reading)]

OKAY, SO THIS IS TO ACCEPT THE BID FROM A CONTRACTOR, UH, TO HANDLE MOWING WHENEVER, UH, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT DETERMINES THAT THAT LAWING TO BE MOWED.

IS THERE A MOTION? OKAY, YE MOVE TO ADOPT NANCY.

AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION, SCOTT? I THINK WE GOT CLARIFICATION THAT I CAN, YOU KNOW, BE CHARGED BACK TO THE RESIDENT.

APPRECIATE THAT POINT OF CLARIFICATION, TONY.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

NEXT IS ITEM 12

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract Modification With Choice One Engineering For The Chambersburg Road West Improvements Project. (first reading)]

ITEM 12 JA RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT MODIFICATION WITH CHOICE ONE ENGINEERING FOR THE CHAMBERSBURG ROAD WEST IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT AT THE FIRST READING, RICK.

SO AT THIS POINT, THIS IS SIMPLY A CONTRACT FOR DESIGN SERVICES, UH, TO DESIGN THE UH, THE WIDENING OF THAT SECTION OF CHAMBERSBURG RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION.

IS THERE A MOTION? DON? SO MOVED.

IS THERE A SECOND? NANCY SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ANITA? I'M GONNA BE OPPOSED TO THIS.

WE PUT IN THE LAST CONTRACT THAT IT WAS EVEN SOME BUFFER INTO THAT AND THAT IT WAS NOT TO EXCEED THAT AMOUNT AND I AM JUST NOT GETTING WHY THIS WASN'T DISCUSSED UPFRONT WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND THIS WAS ALL DONE IN THE INITIAL, INITIAL CONTRACT.

IT'S, I JUST HAVE A FEELING THAT THE CONTRACT MAYBE WASN'T DONE CORRECTLY OR SOMETHING, BUT I AM NOT OKAY WITH US.

JUST KEEP ADDING ONTO THESE CONTRACTS.

WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE DOING STOPPING THE CONTRACT? NANCY, THAT'S BIG ON CONTRACTS.

I MEAN THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALL DISCUSSED WITH THAT INITIAL CONTRACT, BUT YOU CAN'T UNDO IT.

YOU CAN'T UNRING THE BELL.

SO WE NEED TO FINISH THE CONTRACT.

I, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SCOTT, JUST WANTED TO CHECK WITH THE LOG DIRECTOR.

DID YOU EVER CHECK INTO THAT? UM, RECUSING MYSELF OR, YEAH.

YEP, WE DID LOOK INTO THAT ISSUE.

AND YOU'RE FINE.

THERE'S NO REASON TO RECUSE YOURSELF BASED UPON THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND THE GENERAL BENEFIT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

MAYOR.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MR. AKINS? YES.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ONE.

NEXT UP IS ITEM

[ A Resolution To Increase The Not To Exceed Contract Amount And Authorize The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract Modification With Veolia North America For Fiscal Year 2024. (first reading)]

12 K.

ITEM 12 KA RESOLUTION TO INCREASE THE NOT TO EXCEED CONTRACT AMOUNT AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT MODIFICATION WITH VEIA NORTH AMERICA FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 AT THE FIRST READING.

RICK? UH, YES AS, UH, THE CITY ENGINEER EXPLAINED AT OUR LAST WORK SESSION, UH, THIS ADJUSTMENT IS TO FUND MULTIPLE, UH, UTILITY PROJECTS THAT ARE IN, UH, COUNCIL'S PACKET.

THERE.

RECOMMENDATION? WAS ADOPTION THERE? A MOTION? OKAY.

ANY DISCUSSION? MARK? UH, RICK, ARE ANY OF THESE BID OUT? DID WE BID THESE OUT? UM, YES.

ANYTHING OVER THE BID REQUIREMENT? WE WOULD TYPICALLY BID OUT, BUT SOME OF THEM, UH, COULD BE HANDLED IN HOUSE AS WELL.

WITH ALL OF THESE WERE BID OUT.

NOT ALL OF THEM, NO.

ITEM 12 LA RESOLUTION TO ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A PUBLIC WORKS MUTUAL AID CONTRACT WITH SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AT THE FIRST READING.

THANKS MAYOR.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

NEXT IS ITEM 12 L,

[ A Resolution To Allow The City Manager To Enter Into A Public Works Mutual Aid Contract With Surrounding Communities. (first reading)]

RICK, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? YEP.

AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, UH, THIS IS JUST TO ALLOW US TO BOTH RECEIVE AND PROVIDE SUPPORT TO OTHER COMMUNITIES, UH, AS IT RELATES TO PUBLIC WORKS.

UH, IT ALSO,

[01:20:01]

UM, DOES ENSURE THAT WE'RE COVERED BY OUR INSURER, UH, SHOULD ANYTHING HAPPEN IN THOSE OTHER COMMUNITIES.

RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION.

IS THERE A MOTION? FRED? MOTION TO ADOPT.

EXCUSE ME.

IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY, SECOND.

CITY OFFICIAL REPORTS AND COMMENTS.

AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO AND NEXT UP IS ITEM 13, WHICH IS

[13. City Official Reports And Comments]

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THIS EVENING? ANITA? UM, ANYBODY'S WELCOME TO COME TO FIRST TIER IN TROTWOOD ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT BECAUSE RICK WILL BE DOING A PRESENTATION WITH SEAN, UM, ABOUT CYBERSECURITY IN THE CITIES AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

UM, THINGS THAT'S GOING ON WITH FIRST TIER.

UM, JACK WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS TAKING A HIATUS.

HIS WIFE PASSED AWAY LAST WEEK.

AND UM, RICHARD SHAW WILL BE STEPPING IN AS THE INTERIM, UM, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FIRST TIER AND I AM GOING IN AS CHAIR.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE FIRST TIER LEVEL.

CONGRATULATIONS.

UH, DON'T, DON'T THE OFFICERS HAVE TO BE PUBLIC ELECTED OFFICIALS FOR FIRST TIER, NOT FOR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

DIRECTOR.

A STAFF POSITION.

ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION.

THEY HAD A VERY NICE MARTIN LUTHER LUTHER KING CELEBRATION AT WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL.

IT WAS VERY NICE AS WELL ATTENDED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH MAYOR.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? STEVE? MAYOR.

MARK? YES.

UH, AT THE LAST WORK SESSION, RICK, UH, THERE WAS DISCUSSION FROM THE DAIS IN REGARD TO LOOKING AT WAYS WE COULD REDUCE THE BURDEN OFF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAX OWNER.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING STAFF BRING SOME IDEAS BACK.

ABSOLUTELY.

ALSO, WHEN WE HIRED YOU, UM, YOU WERE AN ADVOCATE OF PROVIDING GOOD QUALITY SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF YER HEIGHTS.

CORRECT.

AND I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION THE QUALITY OF THE SNOW REMOVAL.

THIS LAST SNOW.

NOT ONLY WERE THE MAIN THOROUGH AFFAIRS AND THE SIDE STREETS PLOWED, SALTED, UH, THE CUL-DE-SACS WERE SO, UH, COULD YOU PASS THAT ALONG TO THE PUBLIC WORKS? YEAH, IT'S ENTIRELY THEM, IT ALL THEM.

I WILL THANK.

THANKS MARK.

ANYONE ELSE? DON? WELL, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T CONGRATULATE OUR NEW POLICE OFFICERS TONIGHT AND, UH, CHIEF NER AND UH, OUR CITY MANAGER ON AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

UM, THERE IS SOMETHING KIND OF NICE ABOUT BEING AN OLD GUY AND REALIZING THAT, UH, YOU SAW A COUPLE OF THESE PUNKS AS POLICE EXPLORERS.

NOW PROB NOW THEY'LL PROBABLY BE PULLING ME OVER TO GIMME A, A TICKET , BUT NONETHELESS, UH, AND YOU ALSO HEARD THAT ONE OF OUR NEW OFFICERS IS A WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE.

I THINK THAT SAYS A LOT FOR THE DEPARTMENT AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN HUBER HEIGHTS.

UH, AGAIN, UH, CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR NEW OFFICERS.

CONGRATULATIONS TO THE DEPARTMENT AND, UH, NICE JOB.

UH, RICK AS OUR PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER AND OF COURSE CHIEF LIGHTNER.

ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? SCOTT? I DID NOTICE WHEN I WENT TO MCDONALD'S TONIGHT TO GET SOMETHING TO EAT THAT FAST LANE CAR WASH IS HAVING PEOPLE GO PAST THEIR CAR WASH, DO THE CIRCLE AND THEY HAD SOMEBODY DIRECTING TRAFFIC IN THERE TO KEEP THE, THE TRAFFIC DOWN.

SO I APPRECIATE THEM, YOU KNOW, STEPPING UP AND DOING THAT.

ANYONE ELSE? ANY, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR SCOTT.

WAS THAT BACKING OUT THEN THE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF TEXAS? HOW AND TEXAS ROADHOUSE AND ROOSTERS BY DOING THAT? WELL, WHEN THEY TURNED AROUND THEY WAS KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE LANE WITH THE LEFT TURN SIGNAL OKAY.

TO TURN INTO THE FAST LANE.

SO IT OPENED BOTH LANES GOING PAST IT TO GET TO TEXAS ROADHOUSE AND COMING BACK OUT, UH, TO TROY.

SO YEAH, IT, IT WAS, THE FLOW WAS A WHOLE LOT BETTER.

I SAW HIM, YOU KNOW, DIRECTING THAT BY TO GO DOWN AROUND THE CUL-DE-SAC COME BACK INTO LEFT TURN LANE AND SO YEAH, WE'LL GET A REAL TEST THIS WEEKEND WITH, UH, ROOSTERS AND SPORTS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

TEXAS ROADHOUSE IS ALWAYS PACKED ON SATURDAY AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE WARM WEATHER FOR THE CAR WASH.

SO WE'LL GET A REAL TEST THIS WEEKEND.

MRS. KITCHEN, THE GAMES ARE ON SUNDAY, THERE'S COLLEGE BASKETBALL GAMES GOING ON SATURDAY STATE WINS ON SUNDAY.

MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

YEAH.