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[1. Call The Meeting To Order - Mayor Jeff Gore]
GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF HEBREW HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL MEETING REGULAR SESSION.TODAY'S DATE IS JANUARY THE NINTH, 2024.
THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDER.
[2. Invocation - Pastor Randy Griffith Of The Free Methodist Church At 6875 Old Troy Pike, Huber Heights, Ohio]
NUMBER TWO ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING IS OUR INVOCATION FROM PASTOR RANDY GRIFFITH OF THE FREE METHODIST CHURCH AT 68 75 OLD TROY PIKE HERE IN HEBREW HEIGHTS, PASTOR GRIFFITH.THE APOSTLE PAUL WROTE IN PHILIPPIANS CHAPTER TWO, YOUR ATTITUDE SHOULD BE THE SAME AS THAT OF CHRIST JESUS, WHO BEING IN VERY NATURE, GOD DID NOT CONSIDER EQUALITY WITH GOD.
SOMETHING TO BE GRASPED, BUT MADE HIMSELF NOTHING.
TAKING THE VERY NATURE OF A SERVANT BEING MADE IN HUMAN LIKENESS AND BEING FOUND IN APPEARANCE AS A MAN, HE HUMBLED HIMSELF AND BECAME OBEDIENT TO DEATH, EVEN DEATH ON A CROSS.
THEREFORE, GOD EXALTED HIM TO THE HIGHEST PLACE AND GAVE HIM THE NAME THAT IS ABOVE EVERY NAME, THAT AT THE NAME OF JESUS, EVERY KNEE SHOULD BOW IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH AND UNDER THE EARTH.
AND EVERY TONGUE CONFESSED THAT JESUS CHRIST IS LORD TO THE GLORY OF THE FATHER.
A FRIEND AND I WENT TO SEE A MOVIE LAST WEEK CALLED THE BOYS IN THE BOAT.
IT'S A GOOD MOVIE BASED ON A TRUE STORY ABOUT THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON'S JUNIOR ROWING TEAM THAT COMPETED IN THE 1936 OLYMPICS IN GERMANY.
THERE'S A SCENE WHEN ONE OF THE ROWERS WAS HAVING TROUBLE.
HE WAS OUT OF SYNC WITH THE OTHERS IN THE BOAT.
HE WAS HAVING TROUBLE BECAUSE HE WAS FOCUSING ON HIMSELF.
HE COULDN'T GET OUT OF HIS OWN HEAD BECAUSE HE HAD SOME PERSONAL STUFF GOING ON.
BUT A WISE OLDER MAN, THE ONE WHO BUILT THE BOATS, ADVISED HIM THAT IT'S NOT ABOUT HIM, IT'S ABOUT THE BOAT AND THE OTHERS IN THE BOAT WITH HIM.
AND WHEN THE YOUNG MAN, SO TO SPEAK, MADE HIMSELF NOTHING AND THE ROWERS WERE ONE WITH THE BOAT, THEY WON GOLD.
MAY I SAY THAT GOD IS THE BOAT BUILDER.
AND THOSE IN THE BOAT ARE THE CHURCH.
IT'S ABOUT EACH OF US BECOMING ONE WITH THE LORD BY MAKING OURSELVES NOTHING FOR GOD AND FOR OTHERS, BECOMING OBEDIENT IN ALL THINGS, NOTHING EXCLUDED FOR GOD'S SAKE AND FOR THE SAKE OF OTHERS.
AND THE GOLD IS THE EXALTATION OF GOD, SAYING, WELL DONE.
AND THE WELL DONE OF GOD IS GLORIOUS.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS NEW YEAR, OUR TIME, BUT WE WANT TO DO THINGS ACCORDING TO YOUR TIME AND YOUR WILL BECAUSE YOU SEE ALL THINGS AND YOU HOLD EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
YOU NOTHING IS BEYOND YOU OR BEYOND YOUR POWER.
SO LORD, WE LOOK TO YOU AND WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE TONIGHT FOR ALL INVOLVED, FOR THE THE NEW PEOPLE, THE THE CITY AND THE THOSE THAT ARE RUN THE RUNNING THE BUSINESS.
AND LORD, FOR ALL THE CITIZENS THAT ARE PART OF ALL THAT AS WELL, THAT YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD GIVE US WISDOM AND GRACE.
AND IT'S IN CHRIST'S NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.
[3. Pledge Of Allegiance]
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE BIBLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR RELIGIOUS HANDS, ALL NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE OF LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.[4. Roll Call]
THE RULE PLEASE? MR. DAVIDSON? HERE.[5. Approval Of Minutes]
IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES ITEM FIVE A.WE HAVE ONE SET OF COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER THE SEVENTH, 2023.
THOSE MINUTES HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS, PLEASE LET US KNOW NOW.
SAYING NONE THOSE MINUTES WILL STAND AS APPROVED.
[ Swearing In And Oath Ceremony For Mr. Scott Davidson, Ward 1 Councilmember – State Representative Rodney Creech]
NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS OUR SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS EVENING.THE REASON THAT MOST OF YOU ARE HERE, TONY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ NUMBER SIX, ITEM SIX A SWEARING IN AN OATH CEREMONY FOR MR. SCOTT DAVIDSON, WARD ONE COUNCIL MEMBER BY STATE REPRESENTATIVE RODNEY CREE.
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AND SCOTT, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE YOUR FAMILY OR ANYONE COME UP AS WELL AND YOU'RE WELCOME.IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
SCOTT DAVIDSON, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES TO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF OHIO CONSTITUTION, UNITED STATE OF OHIO, THE CHARTER IN ALL ORDINANCES, THE CHARTER IN ALL ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OF THE CITY OF CER HEIGHTS.
AND THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY AND I WILL FAITHFULLY, HONESTLY.
HONESTLY, AND PARTIALLY DISCHARGE AND PARTIALLY DISCHARGED THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE, THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE.
[ Swearing In And Oath Ceremony For Mr. Don Webb, Ward 2 Councilmember – Mayor Jeff Gore]
SIX B.ITEM SIX B, SWEARING IN AN OATH CEREMONY FOR MR. DON WEBB, WARD TWO, COUNCIL MEMBER BY MAYOR JEFF.
RAISE YOUR IF YOU HAVE AYE WEBB, I DON WEBB.
DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES TO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF OHIO, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF OHIO CHARTER AND ALL ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, THE CHARTER AND ALL ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
AND THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY AND THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY, HONESTLY, HONESTLY.
AND IMPARTIALLY AND IMPARTIALLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE.
DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITIES.
[ Swearing In And Oath Ceremony For Mr. Brian Looney, Ward 6 Councilmember – Mayor Jeff Gore]
HAVE ITEM SIX C SWEARING IN AN OATH CEREMONY FOR MR. BRIAN LOONEY, WARD SIX COUNCIL MEMBER BY MAYOR JEFF COURT.YOU KNOW BRIAN HAS A CREW WITH HIM? I THINK SO.
LIKE A HOME ALONE MOMENT WHERE THE MEES ARE GONNA FLY TONIGHT.
BRIAN, YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
I, BRIAN LOONEY, I BRIAN LOONEY, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES TO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF OHIO, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF OHIO WITH THE CHARTER AND ALL ORDINANCES AND THE CHARTER AND ALL ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF HUB HEIGHTS.
AND THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY AND THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY, HONESTLY, HONESTLY.
AND IMPARTIALLY AND IMPARTIALLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE, DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITIES.
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AND LAST BUT[ Swearing In And Oath Ceremony For Dr. Fred A. Aikens, At Large Councilmember – Dr. Charles Showell, USAF Colonel, Retired]
CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, ITEM 60.ITEM 60, SWEARING IN OATH CEREMONY FOR DR.
FRED, A AKINS AT LARGE COUNCIL MEMBER BY DR. CHARLES SHAEL, UNITED STATES AIR FORCE COLONEL, RETIRED, APPREHENSIVE MORE KIDS THAN I DO.
STATE YOUR NAME I, FRED AKENS.
DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES TO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF OHIO, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF OHIO, THE CHARTER AND THE ORAL ORDINANCES, THE CHARTER AND ALL ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
AND THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY
SO HELP ME GOD TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.
SO AT THIS TIME, WE WILL TAKE A BRIEF FIVE MINUTE RECESS.
WE WILL, UH, I KNOW THAT MOST OF YOU ARE, ARE HERE, UH, FOR THIS EVENING'S SWEARING IN CEREMONIES AND NOT FOR THE EXCITING ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING,
BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WOULD LIKE TO STAY, YOU ARE CERTAINLY MORE THAN WELCOME AND WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO BE HERE AS PART OF OUR PUBLIC MEETING.
BUT IF IT IS TIME THAT YOU DECIDE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO LEAVE, UH, WE WILL TAKE A SHORT FIVE MINUTE RECESS TO ALLOW YOU ALL TO DO THAT.
AND YES, AS TONY REMINDED ME, THERE IS STILL FOOD AND SOME CAKE, UH, THERE IN THE BACK ROOM.
SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO, TO GET SOMETHING BEFORE YOU LEAVE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU DECIDE THAT YOU WANT TO DO.
SO WE WILL ADJOURN BACK AT 6 21.
[7. Citizens Comments]
SO WE ARE NOW READY TO MOVE ON WITH THE REST OF THE MEETING.SO, UH, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS OUR CITIZENS' COMMENTS.
ANYONE REDFORD THIS EVENING? WE JUST HAVE ONE THIS EVENING.
JEFF MORFORD, MIAMI COUNTY BETHEL TOWNSHIP.
I WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW THE OUTCOME OF THE RECENT VOTE.
NOVEMBER 23, SPECIFICALLY THE VOTE ON ISSUE ONE, ABORTION ISSUE TWO, CANNABIS, THE CITIZENS OF HUBER HEIGHTS VOTED YES TO ABORTION AND YES TO CANNABIS.
MONTGOMERY COUNTY CITIZENS VOTED YES TO ABORTION AND YES TO CANNABIS.
THE CITIZENS OF BETHEL TOWNSHIP VOTED NO TO ABORTION AND NO TO CANNABIS.
THE MIAMI COUNTY CITIZENS VOTED NO TO ABORTION AND NO TO CANNABIS.
I DO NOT CONSIDER THIS A LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE VOTE, NOT A YOUNGER OLD VOTE, NOT A MALE OR FEMALE VOTE, NOT AN ECONOMICAL VOTE.
BUT INSTEAD, I RELATE THE OUTCOME TO A URBAN VOTE COMPARED TO A RURAL VOTE SHOWING AGAIN, THE BASIC DIFFERENCES BETWEEN OUR COMMUNITIES CHOSEN WAY OF LIFE WITH BOTH LIFESTYLES IMPORTANT AND CHOSEN BY EACH CITIZEN FOR THEIR FAMILIES.
IN REFERENCE TO THE CANNABIS ISSUE BEING ENACTED BY THE GOVERNING BODY IN COLUMBUS, YOUR DISAPPROVAL IS EVIDENT NOT ONLY BY YOUR RECENT NINE MONTH MORATORIUM, WHICH I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH, BUT YOUR COUNSEL'S ACTIONS ARE NOT LIMITED TO THESE RECENT EVENTS.
YOUR COUNSEL HAS A HISTORY RESTRICTING ANY INROADS TO LEGAL, MEDICAL CANNABIS DISPENSARIES ESTABLISHING YOUR STANCE ON CANNABIS.
BUT NOW, BECAUSE OF THE DECISIONS OF AN OUTSIDE LARGER GOVERNING BODY THAT YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH, YOU'LL HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR LAWS AND ORDINANCES IN GENERAL, YOUR WAY OF LIFE, CHANGING YOUR COMMUNITY FOREVER.
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THESE RECENT CHAIN OF EVENTS ILLUSTRATE, AGAIN, MY VIEW RELATING TO HOW UNJUST AND DISRUPTIVE IT IS WHEN OUTSIDE LARGER GOVERNING BODIES MAKE DECISIONS NOT IN LINE WITH THE VIEWS OF THE COMMUNITY.LEADERS CAN CHANGE THEIR ENTIRE COMPLEXION, A COMMUNITY AND THEIR CHOSEN WAY OF LIFE.
HOW DOES IT FEEL TO LOSE CONTROL OF YOUR ABILITY TO GOVERN, YOUR ABILITY TO DECIDE WHAT IS BEST FOR YOUR COMMUNITY, LOSE YOUR ABILITY TO LEAD, LOSE YOUR ABILITY TO CHOOSE? OUR COMMUNITY IS IN A SIMILAR SITUATION.
WE ARE AGAINST HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS AND HAVE BEEN FOR DECADES, WHICH IS EVIDENT BY OUR ZONING GUIDELINES.
BUT A REQUEST IS SUBMITTED TO YOUR COUNCIL ASKING FOR YOU TO DECIDE HOW OUR COMMUNITY LIVES WITHOUT OUR INPUT.
JUST AS 250 YEARS AGO AT THE BOSTON TEA PARTY, THE COLONISTS HAD AN ISSUE WITH TAXATION.
WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, THERE SHOULD BE NO ANNEXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.
SINCE THE LEGISLATURES IN COLUMBUS HAVE ALLOWED THIS CURRENT ANNEXATION LAWS AND PROCESSES, WHICH DOES NOT ALLOW BETHEL TOWNSHIP CITIZENS OR THE CITIZENS OF MIAMI COUNTY TO VOTE YES OR NO TO THIS ANNEXATION REQUEST.
AS IT STANDS NOW, ONLY YOUR COUNSEL HAS THE VOTE AND THE POWER TO ALLOW OR STOP ANNEXATIONS OF PROPERTY LOCATED IN MIAMI COUNTY.
YOUR NEIGHBORS IN BETHEL TOWNSHIP NEED YOUR HELP AND PROTECTION.
SO I CHARGE EACH OF YOU WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND NOT ONLY REPRESENT YOUR COMMUNITY, BUT YOU HAVE THE MORAL AND ETHICAL OBLIGATION TO REPRESENT OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS A DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY.
YOUR VOTE WILL HAVE A MAJOR AND PERMANENT EFFECT ON OUR COMMUNITY.
YOUR NO VOTE WILL BE KEY TO ALLOWING OUR RURAL COMMUNITY TO ENJOY OUR CHOSEN WAY OF LIFE.
YOUR NO VOTE WILL SHOW YOUR SUPPORT OF YOUR NEIGHBORS IN BETHEL TOWNSHIP AND SHOW THE DEVELOPERS THAT OUR CHOSEN WAY OF LIFE AND OUR DESIRE TO MAINTAIN THAT LIFESTYLE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE DEVELOPERS INSATIABLE THIRST FOR MAKING MONEY, NO MATTER THE COST TO OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY.
YOU CAN VOTE NO TO ANNEXATION.
AS A CITY COUNCIL IN NEW CARLISLE LOCATED IN CLARK COUNTY, VOTED NO TO ANNEXATION REQUESTS OF A HUNDRED PLUS ACRES AND THE BUILDING OF 300 PLUS HIGH DENSITY HOUSES.
ONLY ONE OF THE SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS VOTED YES.
THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS ALSO LOCATED IN MIAMI COUNTY.
I BELIEVE IN MY HEART THAT YOU ALL SEE THE ANNEXATION LAWS WERE ENACTED TO HELP TWO AGREEING COMMUNITIES, PROMOTING AND SUPPORTING THE ANNEXATION, LOOKING FOR BENEFITS THAT EACH COMMUNITY WOULD SHARE AND ENJOY.
THIS ANNEXATION IS NOT ONE OF THOSE.
THE DEVELOPERS ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF LAWS THAT NEED MODIFYING.
THE 5,000 CITIZENS OF BETHEL TOWNSHIP ARE AGAINST THE ANNEXATION IN THE BUILDING OF HIGH DENSITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS.
THE THREE BETHEL TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES REPRESENTING THE CITIZENS OF BETHEL TOWNSHIP ARE AGAINST THIS ANNEXATION AND THE BUILDING OF HIGH DENSITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS.
THE THREE MIAMI COUNTY COMMISSIONERS REPRESENTING 110,000 CITIZENS OF MIAMI COUNTY ARE AGAINST THIS ANNEXATION AND THE BUILDING OF HIGH DENSITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS.
SO PLEASE BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND DO THE RIGHT THING.
VOTE NO TO ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THE ANNEXATION OR PROPERTY LOCATED IN MIAMI COUNTY.
PLEASE TAKE CARE OF YOUR COMMUNITY AND LET US TAKE CARE OF OURS.
AS ALWAYS, I LEAVE YOU WITH A GOLDEN RULE, DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU.
NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, CITIZENS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS. THEY'RE NOT MAYOR THIS EVENING.
[9. City Manager Report]
ITEM NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS OUR CITY MANAGER REPORT.SO, UH, I'LL START WITH ENGINEERING.
AS, UH, COUNCIL IS AWARE, NEW CARLISLE PIKE HAS BEEN CLOSED SINCE NOVEMBER 9TH, SO THAT CREWS COULD INSTALL NEW SANITARY SEWER LINE.
UH, THE PROJECT WAS EVENTUALLY EXTENDED UNTIL JANUARY 19TH, UH, AND WE DO STILL EXPECT THE ROAD TO REOPEN BY NEXT FRIDAY.
UM, ON THE IT DEPARTMENT FRONT, WE RECEIVED 110 APPLICANTS FOR THE IT DIRECTOR POSITION.
UH, TODAY WE REVIEWED CANDIDATE RESUMES WITH OUR RECRUITMENT FIRM MANAGEMENT ADVISORY GROUP WHO, UH, WHO PRESENTED WITH US THE BEST CANDIDATES.
UH, WE'LL BE BRINGING IN EIGHT CANDIDATES FOR FIRST ROUND INTERVIEWS, UH, FOR IT DIRECTOR THE WEEK OF JANUARY 29TH.
UM, ALSO, WE ARE CONTINUING TO RECOVER FROM THE CYBER ATTACK.
UH, NONE OF THE REMAINING SERVICES TO BE RESTORED ARE CRITICAL, BUT IT STAFF DOES CONTINUE TO REINSTALL NEEDED SOFTWARE AS IT'S IDENTIFIED.
AND, UH, CURRENTLY A DATA MINING FIRM HAS ALL OF THE HUBER HEIGHTS DATA RETRIEVED FROM A DARK WEB AND THEY'RE CULLING THE DATA FOR ANY PERSONAL INFORMATION THAT MAY HAVE BEEN COMPROMISED.
UM, AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE SAID IT REPEATEDLY.
THIS STEP OF THE PROCESS, UH, IDENTIFYING ANY COMPROMISED DATA WOULD TAKE, UH, A LONGER TIME, UH, WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
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IS RETIRING FEBRUARY 6TH.HE'S BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR OVER 31 YEARS, SO PLEASE, UH, WISH HIM WELL WHEN YOU SEE HIM.
AND, UH, WE DO ALSO HAVE THREE CANDIDATES, UH, HAVING BACKGROUND CHECKS DONE FOR, UH, POTENTIAL PLACEMENT IN THE POLICE DIVISION.
UM, ON MORE OF A BOOKKEEPING MATTER.
UH, DOG TAGS CAN BE PURCHASED AT CITY HALL THROUGH JANUARY 31ST.
UH, IT IS CASH ONLY AND I BELIEVE IT'S $20 IF THE DOG IS SPAYED OR NEUTERED, AND 24 IF NOT.
UM, AND THEN I DO, UH, WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY OF THE FIFTH ANNUAL MLK UNITY WALK AND PROGRAM HOSTED BY THE HUBER HEIGHTS CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION.
THAT'LL BE MONDAY, UH, FROM NINE 30 TO NOON.
UH, I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF BREAKING NEWS ON THAT, THAT I JUST FOUND OUT AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
UH, IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THE COMMISSION WILL CANCEL THE WALK PORTION OF THIS EVENT DUE TO THE LOW TEMPERATURES FORECASTED FOR THAT DAY.
UM, SO WE WILL UPDATE CITY WEBSITES AND INFORMATION PORTALS ONCE WE HAVE FINAL WORD, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THEY'LL EXTEND THE, UH, EVENT AT B SIDE COFFEE FROM NINE 30 TO 10 30, UH, FOR A MEET AND GREET AND THEN DRIVE TO WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL PERFORMING ARTS CENTER FOR THE PROGRAM AT 11:00 AM.
AND, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAD, UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR RICK? OKAY, YOU SEEING NONE? WE'LL MOVE ON.
NEXT UP IS I NUMBER 10, WHICH IS PENDING BUSINESS.
[ A Motion To Appoint Mr. Don Webb As The City Of Huber Heights Vice Mayor For 2024.]
11 IS NEW BUSINESS UNDER ITEM 11 A UNDER CITY COUNCIL, UH, UH, ROGERS, MR. ROGERS CLERK OF COUNCIL.SO ITEM 11, A TONY, ITEM 11 A.
A MOTION TO APPOINT MR. DON WEBB IS THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS VICE MAYOR FOR 2024.
AND, UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND I GUESS ANY EXTRA COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE.
OH, UH, THIS WAS DISCUSSED AT THE WORK SESSION.
UH, DON WAS THE SOLE NOMINEE FOR VICE MAYOR FOR 2024.
UH, THIS IS A REQUIREMENT UNDER THE CHARTER THAT THIS OFFICE BE VOTED ON AT THE FIRST MEETING OF EACH YEAR.
AND SO WE'RE HERE TO DO THAT THIS EVENING.
AND DON WAS THE RECOMMENDATION AT THE WORK SESSION.
OKAY, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO ADOPT MARK SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? DON, ANYTHING? ANY CAL RULE, PLEASE? MS. BAKER? YES.
YOU SCARED ME THERE AFTER THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION, MR. DAVIDSON? YES.
AND THE MOTION TO APPOINT DON AS VICE MAYOR FOR 2024 CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
[ A Resolution Appointing The Public Records Training Designee For Members Of The City Council Of Huber Heights, Ohio Under Ohio Revised Code Sections 149.43 And 109.43. (first reading)]
AND NEXT IS ITEM 11 B.AND YOU HAVE YOUR PLATE THERE IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT OUT.
SO
AND TONY, ANY SUPPLEMENTS? THIS IS, UH, DONE AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH NEW TERM OF COUNSEL.
UH, THERE IS A STATE REQUIREMENT IN THE OHIO PUBLIC RECORDS LAW THAT REQUIRES ALL MEMBERS, UH, OF COUNSEL TO ATTEND A PUBLIC RECORDS TRAINING, UM, AT LEAST ONCE DURING THEIR TERM OF OFFICE.
AND WE DO THIS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE NEW TERM.
UH, WHILE THIS IS A REQUIREMENT, UH, COUNSEL CAN MAKE A DESIGNEE, UH, TO ATTEND THIS TRAINING ON THEIR BEHALF.
AND THIS RESOLUTION, UH, POINTS MYSELF AS THE CLERK OF COUNSEL TO, UH, BE THAT TRAINING DESIGNEE.
HOWEVER, UH, THAT DOES NOT PRECLUDE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM THEMSELVES ALSO ATTENDING THE PUBLIC RECORDS TRAINING.
IT'S JUST TO ENSURE THAT IF THEY CAN'T ATTEND THE TRAINING, THAT, UH, THE TRAINING REQUIREMENT IS MET.
AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORK SESSION WAS, UH, TO ADOPT THIS, THIS EVENING.
IS THERE A MOTION, DON? MOTION TO ADOPT? IS THERE A SECOND, ANITA? SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? TONY? MR. CAMPBELL? YES.
AND MOTION ALSO CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
[ An Ordinance Approving The Editing And Inclusion Of Certain Ordinances And/Or Resolutions As Parts Of The Various Component Codes Of The City Code Of Huber Heights, Ohio; Providing For The Adoption And Publication Of New Matter In The Updated And Revised City Code As Supplement 16; And Repealing Ordinances And Resolutions In Conflict Therewith. (first reading)]
ITEM 11 C.ITEM 11 C, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE EDITING AND INCLUSION OF CERTAIN ORDINANCES AND OR RESOLUTIONS AS PARTS OF THE VARIOUS COMPONENT CODES OF THE CITY CODE OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO, PROVIDING FOR THE ADOPTION OF PUBLICATION OF NEW MATTER.
AND THE UPDATED AND REVISED CITY CODE IS SUPPLEMENT 16 AND REPEALING ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS AND CONFLICT THEREWITH AT THE FIRST READING.
AND TONY, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? UH, THIS IS AGAIN, ANOTHER STATE OR PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT, UH, EACH QUARTER, UH, COUNSEL MUST APPROVE PER THE CHARTER, UH, ANY ORDINANCES THAT ARE GOING TO BE CODIFIED INTO THE CITY CODE OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
UH, THIS REPRESENTS THE CODIFIED LEGISLATION FOR SUPPLEMENT 16, WHICH COVERS THE PERIOD OF THE THIRD QUARTER OF 2023.
AND, UM, THIS CAN GO TO A SECOND READING.
AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORK SESSION WAS TO PASS THIS ITEM ONTO A SECOND READING.
IS THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY,
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SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE THIS ON TO A SECOND READING.[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Purchase Montgomery County Parcel Number P70 04002 0048, Commonly Addressed As 6400 And 6425 Executive Boulevard, For Economic Development Purposes And Establishing Transformational Economic Development Project #3. (first reading)]
UP IS ITEM 11 D UNDER ADMINISTRATION.ITEM 11 DA RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASE MONTGOMERY COUNTY PARCEL NUMBER P 7 0 0 4 0 2 0 0 4 8.
COMMONLY ADDRESSED IS SIXTY FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY FOUR TWENTY FIVE EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES AND ESTABLISHING TRANSFORMATIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT NUMBER THREE AT THE FIRST STREET.
RICK, DO YOU ANY COMMENTS? YES, COUNSEL WILL RECALL.
THIS IS THE 16.6 ACRE PARCEL WEST OF WARPED WING.
UM, THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE IT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO, UH, SUPPORT IT WITHIN AND, UH, AROUND THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? YES, I NEED IT.
I WAS JUST WONDERING, ACCORDING TO OUR CHARTER, ARE WE ALLOWED TO, WITHOUT AN APPROVED BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THIS LAND? WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS COUNCIL CAN AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASE.
WE JUST CAN'T MAKE THE PURCHASE UNTIL THE BUDGET IS COMPLETED.
IF ANYTHING, IT WOULD GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ASSURANCE, UH, TO THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE ALREADY SUGGESTED IN THE BUDGET.
IF COUNSEL DOESN'T APPROVE AND PASS IT, THEN UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TAKE THAT MONEY AND ALLOCATE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
COULD THIS BE MOVED ON TO A SECOND READING? I MEAN, CAN WE DO IT AFTER WE APPROVE A BUDGET? I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
WELL, ONE, ONE KIND OF CHARACTERISTIC WE'VE ALWAYS DONE WITH LAND PURCHASES IS, UH, WE TRY TO PASS THEM WHEN THEY'RE PRESENTED.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS PRIOR TO HERE.
AND, UM, IT'LL, IT PREVENTS SOMEBODY SWEEP, SWOOPING IN, UH, TAKING IT FROM US AND MOVING THE PRICE UP, MAKING IT LESS, UH, LESS APPEALING FOR US.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A COST TO WAITING, UM, WHICH IS THE RISK OF, YOU KNOW, LOSING THAT, THAT OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE.
I DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION ACTUALLY, I, I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS ABOUT THIS, UM, ABOUT THAT PROPERTY.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN LOTS OF DISCUSSION, UH, IN AND AROUND SOCIAL MEDIA.
SO I'LL, I'LL ADDRESS IT ON THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE, IN THE MONEY.
AND I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, A TAX ASSESSMENT VALUE, UH, UM, A, UM, AN APPRAISED VALUE AND THEN AN ACTUAL MARKET VALUE.
SO THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT VALUES WHEN IT COMES TO PROPERTY, AND NOT EVERYTHING IS, IS ALWAYS AS IT SEEMS. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD AND THE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN PURCHASED AND SOLD UP IN THAT AREA, LONG EXECUTIVE, I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GO THROUGH THERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN, UM, JUST HEARING A LOT THAT WE'RE OVERPAYING FOR THIS PROPERTY, THAT THE $2,050,000 IS TOO MUCH FOR THAT PROPERTY.
UM, THAT BREAKS DOWN TO $126,811 AN ACRE.
SO THAT'S REALLY THE NUMBER THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT.
AND THE ACTUAL LAYMAN FARM THAT WE PURCHASED, UH, WAS 52.59 ACRES.
AND WE PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY FOR 3.75 MILLION OR $71,000 AN ACRE.
AND OUT OF THAT, WE ACTUALLY SOLD THE CORNER PROPERTY.
I KNOW LOTS OF PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THE, THE NEW PROPERTY SHEETS BEING BUILT AT THE CORNER OF EXECUTIVE AND BRT PIKE.
WE SOLD THAT PROPERTY 1.6 ACRES FOR $1.5 MILLION ON EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD, 1.6 ACRES, $1.5 MILLION.
NOW, LET'S KEEP IN MIND WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR, OR IF COUNCIL APPROVES IS THE PROPERTY, THE 16 ACRES AT $126,000 AN ACRE VERSUS THE 1.5 MILLION AN ACRE.
WE'VE SOLD A PIECE OF PROPERTY TO SHEETS FOR, UH, THE COMPANY, RHM.
UH, THERE'S SOME DEVELOPMENT GOING UP THERE.
UH, THAT PROPERTY WAS SOLD FOR $114,285 AN ACRE.
SO THE INVESTMENT THAT THE CITY MADE ON THAT PROPERTY UP THERE, OUT OF THAT, UH, WE HAVE ACTUALLY, UH, SOLD 33.48 ACRES.
SO WE HAVE ALMOST 20 ACRES LEFT TO SELL, AND WE ARE ONLY $250,000 SHORT OF RECOUPING THE ENTIRE $3.8 MILLION INVESTMENT THAT WE PURCHASED.
AND WE STILL HAVE 20 ACRES LEFT TO SELL ON EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD.
I'M SORRY, I CREATED THIS FAST.
WE ACTUALLY STILL HAVE 33.48 ACRES TO SELL.
I WAS LOOKING THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
SO, SO WE'VE ONLY SOLD ROUGHLY 22 AND WE STILL HAVE 33 LEFT.
THE HILTON HOTEL ON EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD, THAT PROPERTY WAS SOLD IN TWO, 2017, 2.5 ACRES FOR A TOTAL SALES COST SIX YEARS AGO FOR $575,000 FOR A TOTAL OF $230,000 PER ACRE.
AND TJ CHU'S SIX, NINE YEARS AGO, THREE
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ACRES FOR $450,000 FOR $150,000 AN ACRE, 149 TO BE EXACT 1 49, 5 0 1.SO NINE YEARS AGO, THE CITY SOLD THREE ACRES FOR A HUNDRED, FOR FOUR 50 FOR $150,000 AN ACRE.
AND ON NINE YEARS LATER, WE'RE PURCHASING PROPERTY, UH, FOR $23,000 LESS PER ACRE THAN WHAT WE SOLD PROPERTY FOR NINE YEARS AGO.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST SAY IT, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE UP HERE IS WILLING TO STATE IT, BUT I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO THIS CITY'S HISTORY, UH, OF PURCHASING REAL ESTATE AND DEVELOPING THAT REAL ESTATE AND SELLING THAT REAL ESTATE OFF FOR DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE DONE A REALLY, REALLY GOOD JOB AT MAKING MONEY AND GETTING THE MONEY BACK FOR THE TAXPAYERS.
WE'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB AT THAT, AND WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT ENOUGH, BUT PEOPLE WHO DO WANNA TALK ABOUT IT, WE'LL BE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TO LET EVERYONE KNOW WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB.
THE PROPOSAL TONIGHT IS TO BUY LAND FOR 126,000 AN ACRE WHERE LAND IS SOLD ALL AROUND, ANYWHERE FROM 71,000 UP TO $1.5 MILLION AN ACRE.
I THINK WE'RE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNEW THAT AND THE RECORD WAS SET STRAIGHT FOR ANYONE WHO HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY PURCHASE ON EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD.
SO THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND.
I KNOW MS. KITCHEN HAS EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN HAVING THIS MOVE TO A SECOND READING.
IF COUNSEL DESIRES TO HAVE THIS MOVE TO A SECOND READING RATHER THAN APPROVING TONIGHT, ALL WE NEED TO DO THIS EVENING IS TO GO AHEAD.
WE COULD ACTUALLY, UH, YOU COULD VOTE THIS DOWN AND THEN WE COULD MOVE IT ON, OR, UH, WE'LL CALL THE ROLE BASED ON, UH, THE MOTION SECOND THAT'S BEEN MADE.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS WHERE THEY COULD, UH, WITHDRAW THEIR MOTION? YES.
OR YOUR MOTION COULD BE WITHDRAWN, PASTORS, UH, AND PASSED A SECOND READING.
SO THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS THAT COUNCIL HAS THIS SEAT.
UM, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES AND I, AND I'VE HEARD IT SEVERAL TIMES, UM, THAT WE, WE CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS TO COME ON BOARD AND, UM, IT, IT'S THOSE KIND OF COMMENTS THAT GIVE ME PAUSE AND REASON TO ASK SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED IN OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
AND, UM, TO, TO, TO HIS CREDIT, I THINK THE, UH, THE, UH, CITY MANAGER MISSION ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS AND, AND AT LEAST GAVE ME REASONABLE CERTAINTY THAT THE TAXPAYER'S INVESTMENT IN THEIR PROPERTY IS, IT IS WORTH WHAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO IT AND WE ARE GOING TO GET OUT OF IT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PICTURE, UM, THE, THE MONEY AT LEAST THAT WE ARE PUTTING INTO THE PROPERTY WITH THE VISION OF MAKING HUBER HEIGHTS BETTER AND LIVING UP TO THAT SLOGAN AND LOGO THAT WE HAVE OF COME GROW WITH US.
AND, AND, AND FOR ME ROLLING THE CLOCK BACK A LITTLE BIT, LOOKING AT SOME OF THE DEALS, AND I, AND, AND I REMEMBER THE COMPLAINTS THAT, THAT I HEARD I'M TALKING NINE, 10 YEARS AGO ABOUT CITY PURCHASES AND WHAT'S GOING ON, AND, AND THEN FAST FORWARD AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT HAS BEEN DONE WITH EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD TO THIS POINT.
AND THE CITY HAS NOT LOST MONEY.
SO AT, AT LEAST IN MY ESTIMATION, I I PLAN TO SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION WITH SOME CONCERN THAT I HOPE I'M NOT BEING DUPED.
UM, AND KNOWING THAT MY DECISION TO DO THAT HAS NOT BEEN MADE WITHOUT CONTEMPLATION FOR THE FACTORS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO US BOTH IN THIS ROOM AND IN EXECUTIVE COUNCIL.
YES, ANITA? WELL, I MET TODAY WITH RICK AND I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT, I'M MOVING AHEAD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BUDGET AND THE NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR THE WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN EARMARK THE MONEY WE MAKE TO THE WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROGRAM? I WOULD FEEL A LOT BETTER IF THAT WAS THE CASE BECAUSE THE STUDY SHOWED THAT WE WERE, SHOULD BE SPENDING ABOUT $4 MILLION A YEAR FOR WATER REPLACEMENT.
RICK'S SAYING THERE'S NOT THE MONEY THERE.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN PUBLICLY SAY THAT THE MONEY WE DO MAKE OFF THAT PROPERTY, THAT WE COULD USE TORT WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT? I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY RESTRICTION ON THAT, BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE A COUNCIL DECISION.
I, YOU KNOW, UM, I I WILL BE CLEAR THAT, AND YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I TOLD YOU THIS TODAY THAT ENTERPRISE OPERATIONS LIKE UTILITIES SHOULD FUND THEMSELVES.
SO I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THAT WE USE GENERAL TAX REVENUE TO, UH, BASICALLY PROP UP OUR UTILITY.
UM, BUT IF THERE'S OTHER CREATIVE WAYS TO DO IT, I KNOW THERE'S USE TIF DISTRICTS TO OFFSET SOME UTILITY EXPENSES.
IT'S JUST WE HAVEN'T, I MEAN, WE MET TODAY, AND THIS IS ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT, SO, BUT THE CITIZENS DO PAY,
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THEY PAY THEIR WATER BILLS, THEY PAY FOR THE WATER SERVICE.IT'S JUST THAT THE LINES ARE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE AS A CITY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR, IS TO PROVIDE THOSE WATER LINES SO PEOPLE CAN GET THEIR WATER AND PAY FOR THEIR WATER BILL.
BUT MOST CITIES ARE, ALL CITIES THAT I'M AWARE OF CONSIDER THE WATER LINES A PART OF THE UTILITY.
SO BASICALLY OUR COST TO PRODUCE THE WATER, DELIVER IT AS WELL AS OUR COSTS TO TAKE IN SANITARY SEWAGE AND PROCESS, IT SHOULD BE FULLY FUNDED BY THE ENTERPRISE UTILITY FUND.
AND SO, UM, THE, THE RIGHT SOLUTION, WHICH WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS, IT'S BEEN BUDGETED FOR, IS TO DO A RATE STUDY THIS YEAR, DETERMINE WHAT WE NEED THE RATES TO BE IN ORDER TO FUND WHAT WE NEED IN, IN TERMS OF WATERLINE, AND THEN WORK SLOWLY TO GET OUR RATES TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.
IF THEY'RE NOT WHERE THEY NEED TO BE, WHICH BASED ON NOT HAVING OR ONLY HAVING $1.8 MILLION, THERE'S CLEARLY WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO OFFSET THAT AT.
I THINK WE ALSO SPOKE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE TALK ABOUT CITY GROWTH, UM, THE MORE USERS YOU HAVE IN A UTILITY, THE LESS COST IT IS FOR, FOR THE REST OF THE, THE USE.
UH, RICK, YOU MENTIONED IT BRIEFLY AND THOSE OF US ON THE ON COUNCIL KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
CAN I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT AND ASK YOU TO TELL THE PEOPLE HERE ABOUT, UH, WHAT TED IS AND, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT? WHY THIS IS TED NUMBER THREE? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN, BECAUSE I DIDN'T DIG TOO DEEP INTO THAT, BUT, UM, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO SIT DOWN WITH BRIAN ON THAT TOO DEEPLY.
UM, ANYONE ON COUNCIL, UM, WILLING TO, UM, GIVE A DEFINITION FOR PEOPLE AS TO WHY THIS IS A, UH, A TED AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO WITH IT? WELL, SO TED STANDS FOR TRANSFORMATIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND WHEN WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, THE WAS THE FIRST PROPERTY THAT WE SOLD, UH, THE CITY HAD ROUGHLY $15,000 WRAPPED UP INTO THE PROPERTY BEHIND THE CAMPING WORLD.
UM, THAT WAS A, UH, A TAX FORECLOSURE.
AND THE CITY PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY FOR $15,000 AND SUBSEQUENTLY SOLD IT FOR I BELIEVE, $1.8 MILLION.
AND THAT MONEY, THE PROFIT THAT WE MADE FROM THAT PARTICULAR LAND SALE, UH, WE CREATED THIS TRANSFORMATIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY WAS GONNA HAVE PROBABLY SEVERAL MORE PROJECTS DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE WOULD USE THE MONEY THAT WOULD BE INVESTED BASED ON PROFITS FROM DIFFERENT REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS, UH, TO BUILD AND DESIGN AND DO THESE EXTRA PROJECTS.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, MARY MEADOWS IS ANOTHER TRANSFORMATIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WE CALL OUR TED FUND.
AND IT'S LISTED IN THE BUDGET AS A TED FUND AND IT HAS MONEY IN IT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE USE TO HELP SPUR THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN SPECIFIC PROJECTS.
SO WE STARTED THIS FUND OFF WITH BASICALLY 1,000,008 IN PROFIT THAT WE TOOK FROM A, A TAX FORECLOSURE ON THE PROPERTY WHERE, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE WHERE CAMPING WORLD IS AT, AND I BELIEVE OUR PLANNING COMMISSION JUST APPROVED LAST NIGHT, UH, FOR RIGHT WAY AN ACTUAL CAMPGROUND ALSO IN THAT PROPERTY THAT WE'RE, WE'VE DONE A LAND SWAP FROM THE LAND THAT IS BEHIND CEDAR HILL FURNITURE FOR THE LAND THAT'S THERE, WHICH ACTUALLY HAS SOME DEVELOPMENT ABILITIES VERSUS NOT A WHOLE LOT OF DEVELOPMENT ABILITIES, UH, BEHIND CAMPING WORLD.
SO WE'VE DONE A LAND SWAP FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
SO, UH, AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER PROJECT THAT, THAT HAS TURNED OUT VERY WELL AND PUT MONEY INTO THE COFFERS OF THE CITY.
AND I THINK WHEN WE, WHEN WE LOOK AT, UH, WE'VE BEEN INVESTING ROUGHLY 1,000,005 MILLION SIX INTO OUR WATER FUND OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, EACH YEAR, THEN I THINK IT WAS IN ROUGHLY NOVEMBER OF 22.
AND I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT BACKLOGS OF, OF SOME OF THE PIPING TO GET IN FOR OUR WATER MAINS, UH, THE SUGGESTION WAS MADE BY STAFF TO MOVE TO AN 18 MONTH CYCLE, UH, ON FUNDING OUR WATER JUST BECAUSE IT WAS TAKING THAT LONG TO GET THAT MATERIAL IN.
SO, UM, AS WE HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT PRODUCE MONEY AND CAPITAL IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE CITY, THEN COUNCIL CAN THEN TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WHAT THE OVERALL BUDGET IS, WHAT THE GENERAL FUND IS, WHAT OUR TAX REVENUES ARE, WHAT OUR, UH, UTILITY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDS, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, THEN HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND SEE WHERE THAT MONEY'S AT.
AND OF COURSE, AS MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MONEY COMES INTO THE CITY'S COFFERS, THAT FREES UP OTHER MONEY THAT WE CAN USE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, EARMARKING SPECIFIC PROJECT ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR WATER UTILITY IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, BUT THAT'S A COUNCIL DECISION AND DISCUSSION THAT WE CAN HAVE, OR WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT THE BUDGET LOOKS LIKE AND DETERMINE WHERE THAT MONEY IS FREED UP BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE PROFITS AND THE MONEY WE'VE MADE ALL FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS TO BE ABLE TO FREE THAT MONEY UP AND USE IT IN OTHER AREAS AND OTHER PLACES IN THE CITY.
SO, UH, DON, I HOPE I, I'VE DONE JUSTICE AT LEAST TO WHAT THE TED FUND IS THAT YOU KIND OF TALKED ABOUT AT LEAST KINDA TO WHERE WE GOT STARTED
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AND, AND AND WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH IT.SO, AND MARK, IF YOU GOT YOUR HAND RAISE, I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T SEE IT, BUT CERTAINLY IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, UH, PLEASE DO.
SO DON, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT WE'VE, UH, PURCHASED AND THEN FLIPPED SOLD.
UH, I THINK WINDBROOK WAS ONE OF THOSE.
UH, WE PURCHASED OFF OF A DEVELOPER, THE LAND BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO PUT A WATER TOWER NORTH OF 70, UH, THE MONIES THAT WE PAID FOR THE, UH, ENTIRE ACREAGE FUNDED THE WATER UTILITY AS IT RELATED TO THE LAND.
WE THEN FLIPPED THE BALANCE OF THAT LAND, I THINK MAYOR FOR A MILLION YES.
SO, UH, WE'VE DONE QUITE WELL.
I, I WOULD HESITATE SAYING WE'VE NEVER FAILED, BUT TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, AND I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING UP THAT HISTORIC PERSPECTIVE.
YOU'D BE HARD PRESSED TO FIND WHERE WE, UH, SPENT MONEY AND DIDN'T MAKE A PROFIT.
WITH THAT SAID, I KNOW THIS, UH, AGENDA ITEM ISN'T THE, UH, WATER UTILITY, BUT, BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION TODAY.
I BELIEVE IT'S AROUND 1.6 MILLION, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
AND DO WE HAVE A RATIO ON SOME OF THE DEBT WHERE THE COVENANT IS 115% COVERAGE? ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT AS WELL? I BELIEVE WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS.
I'M NOT WELL VERSED IN THEM, WHICH WOULD LEAD SOMEONE TO BELIEVE THAT, UH, IF IT'S 115% COVERAGE ON THE DEBT RATIO, THEN WE'RE PROFITABLE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, TONIGHT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PROPERTY, BUT I THINK MOVING FORWARD I HOPE I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH STAFF AND THE COUNCIL AND ASSESS PROJECTS AND LOOK AT CAPITAL EXPENSES AND, AND BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING, UH, COMPREHENSIVE TO ADDRESS CAPITAL NEEDS.
NOW THE MAYOR HAD INDICATED THAT WE'RE SPENDING ABOUT 1,000,006 OR SO A YEAR ON THE WATER MAINS.
IS IS THAT CLOSE TO ACCURATE? WE'VE ACTUALLY BUDGETED 1.8 MILLION THIS YEAR, BUT YES.
AND WHAT HAVE WE IN YEARS PAST? I BELIEVE WE REFERENCED THE MILLION DOLLARS.
WE INVESTED, UM, RIGHT OFF THE BAT ABOUT A YEAR, WELL, ABOUT 18 MONTHS AGO.
THAT'S AS FAR BACK AS I'VE GONE SO FAR.
SO I THINK THE CONSULTANT THAT CAME AND PRESENTED TO US HAD INDICATED THAT WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD TRACK RECORD OF REINVESTING MM-HMM.
AND WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN PRETTY PROFICIENT AT THAT JOB.
UH, I WOULD ASK, NOT TONIGHT, BUT WHEN YOU'RE PREPARING FOR THIS ITEM, UH, I WOULD ASK WHERE WE GOT THE MONEY FROM.
WAS THAT FROM THE ENTERPRISE FUND OR WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN FROM PROJECTS OR GENERAL FUND MONEY AND YES, I THINK, UH, I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO HARSH ON THE ENTERPRISE RATE ONLY FUNDS.
UM, I KIND OF REFERENCED IT BEING GENERAL TAX REVENUES.
SO WHEN WE'RE SELLING LAND, WHEN WE ARE GENERATING SOME MONIES OFF A TIF DISTRICT, I THINK THOSE ARE ABSOLUTELY AREAS WHERE WE CAN DEDICATE SOME FUNDS TO OUR UTILITIES.
IT'S JUST, UM, NOT BEST PRACTICE TO USE TAX FUNDS.
SO DO YOU KNOW APPROXIMATELY WHEN THAT DEBT IS GOING TO MATURE AND FALL OFF? I BELIEVE IT'S 2026.
SO THIS YEAR WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE NEED FOR WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT AND LOOK AT A FUNDING SOURCE.
SO MAYOR, UH, AS FRED HAD INDICATED, I TOO, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THIS AND, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE MULTIPURPOSE.
IT'S GOING TO HELP US, UH, SAFEGUARD OUR ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
I THINK RICK BRIAN HAD INDICATED THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME, UH, USER FOR AT LEAST PART OF THE PROPERTY IN YES.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, ONE THAT, UH, I'M GONNA SUPPORT TONIGHT.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING, ANITA? I CAN JUST SAY MARK, LAST YEAR WE DID 4 MILLION FOR WATER MAIN BREAKS AND WE USED THE ADDED 2.2 MILLION, UM, FROM GENERAL FUNDS IS WHAT WE DIRECTED.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE STUDY SAID THAT FOR US TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THIS AND TO KEEP UP WITH THE PACE, SO WE'RE AHEAD OF THE BREAKS, WE NEED TO SPEND 4 MILLION A YEAR.
SO YEAH, 2026 IS STILL TWO YEARS AWAY TO GET UP TO THAT THING.
SO WE'RE ALREADY FALLING BEHIND
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BY NOT DOING THAT.I THINK THE ACTUAL, I THINK THOSE LOANS FALL UP IN 2025.
SO THE EXTRA, SO THE, THE, THOSE FUNDS WILL BE UP, WOULD BE READY TO BE SPENT IN 2026.
IT WOULDN'T BE, THEY FALL OFF IN 2026 AND START FUNDING IN 27.
UH, SO THAT'S STILL TWO YEARS.
SO, SO WE'D BE ABLE TO START PLANNING THAT EXTRA MONEY DOING THE ENGINEERING, THE DESIGN WORK.
AT LEAST WE KNOW THERE'S, YOU KNOW, AN EXTRA $1.6 MILLION COMING MM-HMM.
WE KNOW WE HAVE AN EXTRA 1.6 MILLION COMING TO SPEND IN, IN 2026.
WHAT I DID EXPLAIN, UM, DISCUSS WITH MS. KITCHEN THAT, UM, I WILL BE PROVIDING COUNSEL WITH REGULAR UPDATES ON OUR WATER SYSTEM AND WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH IT SO THAT WE CAN KEEP ABREAST OF THAT.
UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA HAVE A RATE STUDY DONE, SO WE CAN USE THAT AS SOME DATA POINTS.
AND THEN ALSO I KNOW, UH, MR. BELL IS PREPARING, UH, SOME ANALYSES OF OUR DEBT AND TIF REVENUE AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO, TO REALLY SEE WHERE WE'VE GOT, UM, RESERVES THAT CAN BE USED FOR THESE TYPES OF PURPOSES.
AND I WOULD HOPE THAT DEBT THAT'S FALLING OFF IS ONLY A PIECE OF WHAT WE WOULD USE TO REINVEST IN OUR CAPITAL AS IT RELATES TO THE WATER MAIN.
SO, UH, I THINK THERE'S A, A, A WAY TO COMPREHENSIVELY LOOK AT THIS AND BRING ALL THOSE, UH, FUNDING MECHANISMS TO THE TABLE.
ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION.
AND SECOND, TONY, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? MRS. BURGE? YES.
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into The Necessary Agreements And Make Necessary Purchases Of Goods And Services With Certain Vendors And Suppliers For The Purchase, Maintenance, And Service Of Equipment, Professional Services, And Miscellaneous Operating Expenses By Various Departments And Divisions Of The City Of Huber Heights For Fiscal Year 2024 And Waiving The Competitive Bidding Requirements. (first reading)]
IS ITEM 11 E.ITEM 11 EA RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO THE NECESSARY AGREEMENTS AND MAKE NECESSARY PURCHASES OF GOODS AND SERVICES WITH CERTAIN VENDORS AND SUPPLIERS FOR THE PURCHASE, MAINTENANCE AND SERVICE OF EQUIPMENT, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND MISCELLANEOUS OPERATING EXPENSES BY VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024, AND WAIVING THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS AT THE FIRST READING.
RICK COMMENTS? UH, THIS IS, UH, WHAT'S CONSIDERED THE ANNUAL LEGISLATION.
IT ALLOWS FOR, UH, US TO EXCEED THE BID AMOUNT WITH CERTAIN VENDORS, UH, WITH COUNCIL APPROVAL.
I KNOW MR. LOONEY HAD ASKED, UH, HOW MANY OF THESE ARE NEW VENDORS? UNFORTUNATELY, MY COMPUTER WENT TO SLEEP, BUT I THINK IT'S IN THE REALM OF THREE TO FOUR WITH, UH, THE AMENDMENT THAT I'M GONNA DISCUSS IN A MOMENT.
UM, SO, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT WAIVING BIDDING, BUT A LOT OF THESE ARE SOMETIMES PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WHERE WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BID, BUT WE DO NEED TO AUTHORIZE THE, UM, OVER $25,000 LIMIT.
SO, UM, WHAT I DO WANNA DISCUSS IS THE AMENDMENT THAT I ADDED.
UH, AND IT'S UP TO COUNSEL IF THEY'D LIKE TO ADOPT THE AMENDMENT.
UM, SO AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD A INITIAL $350,000 INVESTMENT IN OUR CYBERSECURITY TO ADDRESS THE, UH, NEEDED RECOVERY AND RESPONSE.
UM, THAT WAS SUFFICIENT FOR LAST YEAR.
WE WERE ABLE TO GET BACK UP AND RUNNING AS I REPORTED TODAY.
UM, BUT WE DO NEED TO INVEST IN HARDENING OUR NETWORK FURTHER.
UM, WE DO NEED TO REPLACE ALL OF OUR FIRE, UH, ALL OF OUR ROUTERS, ALL ADD SOME FIREWALLS, ACCESS POINTS, ALL KINDS OF OTHER DETAILS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, UM, I WOULD ASK COUNSEL TO AMEND THIS TO INCLUDE, UH, SECURE CYBER DEFENSE, UM, AND ADD $450,000 TO THIS LEGISLATION.
UH, I KNOW COUNSEL'S AWARE OF THIS, BUT SECURE CYBER DEFENSE HAS BEEN, UH, RIGHT BY OUR SIDE SINCE 3:00 PM THE DAY OF THE HACK.
UH, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO GOT US BACK UP AND RUNNING.
UH, WE DIDN'T PUBLICLY REPORT THAT PREVIOUSLY BECAUSE, UH, THERE WERE CONCERNS THAT HACKERS MIGHT GO AFTER THEM AS THEY'RE TRYING TO HELP US.
SO, UH, I DO WANT TO MAKE THE PUBLIC AWARE THAT THIS IS A COMPANY THAT HAS BEEN BY OUR SIDE THROUGHOUT, AND, UH, MOST OF THESE ITEMS ARE, UH, ONE-TIME ITEMS. IT'LL LAST EIGHT TO 10 YEARS.
UM, BUT IT WILL MAKE OUR NETWORK, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I'LL SLEEP PERFECTLY FINE AT NIGHT IF, IF WE CAN GET THIS WORK DONE.
SO, NANCY, UH, RICK, WHEN, WHEN WE ARE, UM, DONE WITH THE HARDENING, UM, AND, UM, CONSIDER OURSELF IN IN A STABLE POSITION, UH, WILL WE COME OUT OF THIS WITH A CYBERSECURITY PLAN? WE WILL.
SO, UM, SEAN WALDEN, WHO'S THE CEO, UH, HE'S BEEN WORKING WITH US, UH, HE HAS A, UH, REPRESENTATIVE OF HIS COMPANY, UH, WHO'S HELPING US UNTIL WE GET OUR IT DIRECTOR IN PLACE.
UM, HE HAS BEEN GIVEN A TASK OF PUTTING TOGETHER ALL THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AND WE DON'T.
WHATEVER HE DOESN'T GET DONE, THE NEW DIRECTOR WILL, THAT'LL BE THEIR FIRST PRIORITY WHEN THEY GET HERE.
SO THERE IS AN AMENDMENT THAT, UH, THAT RICK HAS TALKED ABOUT.
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SO THE COUNCIL WORK COUNCIL WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO, UH, ADOPT THE ITEM THIS EVENING.BUT FIRST WE NEED, UH, TO ADDRESS THE AMENDMENT.
SO I WOULD NOW ASK FOR A MOTION TO AMEND SCOTT, I MOVE TO AMEND, UH, AGENDA E SECOND.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO AMEND ITEM 11 E ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? AND, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE AMENDMENT IS TO ADD ITEM B, B, B, UH, LOWERCASE, UH, TRIPLE B, UH, IN THE AMOUNT OF $450,000 FOR THIS VENDOR TO THE EXISTING LEGISLATION.
CAN YOU, COULD WE MAKE THIS ITS OWN THING THAT WE APPROVE THIS MONEY AND NOT MAKE IT PART OF THIS BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, I AM ALL FOR RAISING THE LIMIT TO, LIKE YOU HAD SUGGESTED, POSSIBLY 75,000.
I'M NOT FOR JUST MAKING A BLANKET.
LET'S APPROVE ALL OF THIS STUFF.
AS I SAID, OTHER CONTRACTS THAT ARE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND, WE NEED TO GO TO BID.
WE NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT MONEY TO THE TAXPAYERS.
SO I AM OKAY TO APPROVE THE $450,000 THAT IS ITS OWN STANDING.
WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THE CITIZENS TO MAKE SURE THEIR PRIVATE INFORMATION IS SECURE.
I JUST WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY VOTE NO BECAUSE I THINK THE OTHER STUFF, AS I SAID, CONCRETE AND SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR, WE NEED TO GO TO BID.
AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING THE POSITION OF DOING, YOU KNOW, THIS KIND OF WORK MM-HMM,
I THINK WE'LL GET MORE COMPETITIVE PRICING.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE PROPOSED AS PROCUREMENT SPECIALIST IN THIS CASE.
AND I'M GONNA LIMIT MY DISCUSSION TO THIS PARTICULAR, UH, TOPIC.
UM, WE, WE KIND OF KNEW, WE HAD EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.
I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SEAN, WE KNEW WE WOULD NEED TO DO MORE IN, IN 2024, UM, AND THEY WERE ALREADY THERE AND THEY'RE HALFWAY THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO THAT'S A BIG PART OF THE REASON TO CONTINUE WITH THEM.
UH, ALSO THE CHARTER DOESN'T REQUIRE US TO BID PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, WHICH, UM, THIS IS CONSIDERED A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE.
SO, UM, I'M NOT SAYING WE WOULD NEVER BID A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE.
UM, AND PART OF THE REASON THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT PASS TONIGHT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, TIME IS RISK.
SO THE SOONER WE CAN GET EQUIPMENT ORDERED AND GET IT INSTALLED AND HAVE THAT ALL DONE, THE SOONER WE CAN ALL SLEEP SLEEP WELL
SO, YEAH, AND AS I SAID, I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH APPROVING THAT FOR SEAN'S COMPANY AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
I'VE BEEN VERY PLEASED WITH WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
I JUST HATES IT THAT IT'S LUMPED IN AS AN AMENDMENT TO THIS, BECAUSE I'M STILL NOT OKAY OF US JUST GIVING A BLANKET.
OKAY? IT'S OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO GET CONCRETE WHEN THERE'S A MILLION CONCRETE COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT WE CAN GO TO BID FOR SOME OF THIS STUFF.
THAT'S WHERE I HAVE THE ISSUE LIE.
IT'S NOT SPINNING THE 450,000 FOR THE COMPANY YOU WANT TO FOR THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE.
WELL, HERE'S WHAT I CAN DO IS I CAN DO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE PUT TOGETHER THIS LIST KIND OF, UH, WELL, WE'VE ALWAYS PUT IT TOGETHER THIS WAY.
UH, I CAN WORK WITH STAFF TO GO THROUGH THIS LIST AND IDENTIFY IF THERE ARE ANY ITEMS THAT WOULD MAKE, WE WOULD MAKE SENSE TO BID.
SO SOME, SOME VENDORS CAN ONLY PROVIDE THAT SERVICE TO US.
SO THAT'S THE VENDOR WE SHOULD USE.
THERE'S NO REASON TO BID THAT IF WE CAN'T FIND SOMEBODY COMPARABLE IN OUR AREA.
UM, BUT AS IT RELATES TO THE TOPIC TODAY, YES, I DIDN'T LOVE DOING IT THIS WAY, BUT WHEN I MET WITH JIM BELL THIS WEEK ABOUT THE BUDGET, I MENTIONED THAT WE WOULD NEED TO INCREASE THE SPENDING AUTHORITY ON THE CYBERSECURITY INCIDENT OR CYBER SECURITY UPDATES.
HE RECOMMENDED THAT SINCE THIS PIECE IS ALREADY HERE, UH, WE COULD HAVE DISCUSSION TODAY AND DO AN AMENDMENT ON IT.
UM, IT AGAIN, IT, IT GETS US THAT QUICKER TIME.
I'M NOT SAYING WE CAN'T COME BACK NEXT WEEK WITH A DIFFERENT PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
UM, I'LL JUST LEAVE THAT UP TO, TO THE COUNCIL.
YEAH, AND JUST TO REITERATE WHAT WHAT HAS SAID BEEN SAID IN THE PAST, EVEN IF WE DON'T GO OUT ON A FORMAL BID FOR, UH, A LOT OF THESE ITEMS, UM, THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WILL GO OUT AND, AND, UH, ASK FOR BIDS FOR 3, 4, 5 DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT THEY KNOW PROVIDE THESE SERVICES OR GOODS OR SERVICES.
AND SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET A GOOD FEEL FOR WHAT THAT PARTICULAR ITEM WILL COST.
AND THEN THEY, THEY BASE THEIR DECISION ON THAT, ON PAST PERFORMANCE AND, AND OTHER FACTORS.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GOING OUT CARTE BLANCHE BLIND, IT'S, THEY DO DO AN, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT A LESS FORMAL RIGHT, UH, SURVEY OF THE SERVICES AND GOODS THAT ARE IN THE AREA.
SO, UH, I THINK THAT THE RISK IS LOW AND I'M, I HAVE BEEN VERY VOCAL
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ABOUT COMPETITIVE BIDDING WHEN WE GO FOR PROJECTS LIKE THE PICKLEBALL COURT AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.BUT THIS, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS, IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
THE PICKLEBALL COURT STOOD ON ITS OWN.
IT WAS EASY TO EVALUATE THESE THINGS HERE.
I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH HISTORY AND, AND WE KNOW THE VENDORS AND, AND WE DO, UM, A LESS STRINGENT OR LESS FORMAL PROCESS.
SO I, I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT, UM, THAT WE ARE GETTING, UM, A GOOD OUTCOME FROM THE, UM, BIDS THAT WE GET IN FOR THESE THINGS.
SO I, I THINK THE RISK IS RELATIVELY, UH, LOW IN, IN APPROVING THIS RESOLUTION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, ANITA? I JUST THINK WE OUGHT TO GIVE OTHER COMPANIES A CHANCE ALSO.
WE MIGHT HAVE NEW COMPANIES IN CUBA THAT COULD DO THIS FOR LOWER, AND THIS COULD BE SOMETHING THAT BENEFITS THEM BY US GOING OUT TO BID FOR SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, LARGER.
I'M NOT SAYING THE ONES 75,000 AND UNDER, I'M SAYING THE ONES OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
I, I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OTHER COMPANIES TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, DO THE SERVICE.
I THINK IT BENEFITS US AND IT POSSIBLY BENEFITS OTHER, OTHER PRIVATE ENTITIES.
SO JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'M GONNA SAY WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, A VERY DETAILED DISCUSSION AT THE WORK SESSION.
THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL, UH, DID NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO THIS PARTICULAR, UM, MEETING.
UH, WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND ON THE FLOOR, UH, FOR THE AMENDMENT THE WAY MR. BELL HAD PROPOSED IT.
SO UNLESS THE MOTION AND THE SECOND TO AMEND THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS WITHDRAWN, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL FOR THE AMENDMENT TO, WHICH WOULD BE ITEM TRIPLE B TWO.
SO SAYING THAT THAT AMENDMENT IS NOT WITHDRAWN, UH, ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, SO FOR THE AMENDMENT, TONY
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
AND NEXT, A MOTION FOR ADOPTION.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ADOPTION? TONY? OKAY.
[ An Ordinance For Making Appropriations For Expenses Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio For The Period Beginning January 1, 2024 And Ending December 31, 2024. (first reading)]
ITEM 11 F.ITEM 11 F AN ORDINANCE FOR MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR EXPENSES OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO FOR THE PERIOD BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2024, AND ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2024 AT THE FIRST READING.
RICK? UH, THIS IS THE ANNUAL BUDGET.
UM, OBVIOUSLY AS THE MAYOR WILL REPORT, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING TO GO TO A SECOND READING.
UM, PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS, UH, MR. BELL DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATA HE NEEDED UNTIL DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
UM, SO HE WILL HAVE A FEW TWEAKS COMING, UM, BEFORE NEXT COUNCIL SESSION.
REC RECOMMENDATION, THE WORK SESSION WAS TO MOVE THIS ITEM ON TO A SECOND.
WE'LL MOVE THIS ON TO A SECOND READING.
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Solicit, Advertise And Receive Bids From Qualified Firms For The Construction Of The 2024 Rehabilitation Of Sewer Lines Project. (first reading)]
AND NEXT IS ITEM 11 G.ITEM 11 GA RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SOLICIT, ADVERTISE, AND RECEIVE BIDS FROM QUALIFIED FIRMS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE 2024 REHABILITATION OF SEWER LINES PROJECT AT THE FIRST READING.
SO THIS IS, UH, FOR SEWER LINE REPAIR AND OBVIOUSLY REHABILITATION.
UM, I KNOW IT'S BEEN ASKED IN THE PAST.
UM, ONCE BIDS ARE RECEIVED, WE'LL BRING A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL FOR, UH, ACCEPTANCE.
SO THIS IS, OKAY, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION.
SO IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SAID HE WAS GONNA BRING BACK OR IS THIS READY? IS THIS
RECOMMENDATION TO AWARD A CONTRACT.
IS THERE A MOTION? NANCY? MOVE TO ADOPT.
MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO AND NEXT AS ITEM
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Award A Contract For The Meadows Park Drive Project. (first reading)]
11 H.ITEM 11 H YOUR RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AWARD A CONTRACT FOR THE MEADOWS PARK DRIVE PROJECT AT THE FIRST READING.
UM, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY THE AWARD VERSION OF ANOTHER PROJECT, UH, WHICH IS THE ROAD INTO THE MEADOW, UH, SUBDIVISION PROJECT THAT WE'RE DOING.
IS THERE A MOTION? DON? MOVE TO CHAIR.
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RICK? UM, IS THERE ANY PLANS TO PENINS ROAD, UH, RIGHT BETWEEN THE ATHLETIC FOUNDATION AND THE POST OFFICE SINCE THAT ROAD'S COME COMING OUT? THAT IT, YES.WHAT WAS THE, I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION THERE? I SEE ON THE PLANS THAT THE ROAD STOPS RIGHT BEHIND THE DOG PARK.
UH, OF COURSE YOU HAVE THE LE ATHLETIC FOUNDATION AND YOU HAVE THE POST OFFICE STILL HAVE THAT SHORT AREA OF STREET GOES OUT TO PITTSBURGH.
WE INTEND EVENTUALLY TO FINISH THAT.
IT'S JUST WE'RE TRYING TO LIMIT THE PROJECT TO THE IMMEDIATE NEED RIGHT NOW.
SO IT WILL, IT WILL GET FINISHED EVENTUALLY.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL ON THE TABLE.
AND THE MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
[12. City Official Reports And Comments]
UP IS CITY OFFICIAL REPORTS AND COMMENTS.UH, ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THIS EVENING? SO NANCY, FIRST OF ALL, UM, I'D LIKE TO AGAIN CONGRATULATE ALL OF OUR NEW MEMBERS.
UM, REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU ALL HERE, AND I HOPE, UH, YOU FIND IT AS REWARDING AS, AS THE REST OF US DO.
UM, IF YOU HAVE NOT GOTTEN OUT, GONE OUT TO SEE THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE MEADOWS, WHICH IS THE PREVIOUS MARION MEADOWS, THE RENOVATION THAT'S BEEN DONE, PLEASE TAKE TIME TO DO THAT.
UH, I'M, I'M REALLY IMPRESSED IT HAS CHANGED THE WHOLE FACE OF THAT AREA.
UM, AS A QUESTION, UM, DO YOU KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GONNA BE TEARING DOWN THE REST OF, UH, CRD? UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S, IT'S HAPPENED VERY SOON, THIS MONTH.
BUT IT, AS MARK AND I WERE JUST DISCUSSING, IT REALLY PROVIDES A CONTRAST WITH THAT SITTING THERE NEXT TO THE NEW PORTION OF, OF HOW FAR WE'VE GONE.
AND I THINK WE, SOME OF US HAVE WAITED 30, 40 YEARS FOR, FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, AND, AND IT'S WONDERFUL.
I THINK A LOT OF TIMES WHEN IT'S ALL GONE, WE HAVE A HARD TIME TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT IT, WHAT IT USED TO LOOK LIKE.
SO THE OLD BUILDING IS NEXT TO THE NEW ONE, HAS REALLY PROVIDED EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GET AN IDEA OF, OH MY GOSH, LOOK WHAT IT, LOOK WHAT IT USED TO LOOK LIKE COMPARED TO WHAT IT IS NOW.
I JUST WANT TO THANK THOSE WHO CAME OUT TODAY TO, TO, UH, WITNESS THE INDUCTION OF, OF MYSELF AND THE, UH, OTHER MEMBERS WHO WERE, UH, RECENTLY ELECTED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND, UM, TO
UH, LET'S CONTINUE TO SEE THIS ROOM.
UH, THIS CHAMBER FILLED WITH CITIZENS WHO ARE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS OF OUR CITY.
WE NEED MORE VOICES, WE NEED PEOPLE SERVING ON COMMISSIONS.
SO, UH, COME BACK AND SUPPORT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU PUT UP HERE.
IT IS NOW SEVEN 15 AND THIS FIRST COUNCIL MEETING OF THE YEAR IS ADJOURNED.