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I CALL THE MEETING OF THE CITY OF HUB RIGHTS PLANNING COMMISSION TO TO ORDER.

SECRETARY, YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL AND YOU HAVE A MOMENT, .

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

MR. CASSIDY? HERE.

MR. JEFFRIES? HERE.

MS. THOMAS? HERE.

MS. VARGO? HERE.

MR. WALL HERE.

I HAVE ONE COMMENT.

I'D LIKE TO THANK MS. VARGO FOR BEING CHAIR LAST MONTH.

WELCOME FILLING IN FOR ME.

SO APPRECIATE THAT AND WELCOME ALL.

DOES ANYONE ELSE ON THE DIOCESE HAVE ANY PUT ANY REMARKS? WELCOME.

GLAD TO BE HERE.

ABSOLUTELY.

UH, NEXT ONE, THE AGENDA.

I'M SORRY, MR. WALL, JUST REAL QUICK, I JUST WANNA SAY CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RENEWED APPOINTMENT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

WELL, THANK YOU.

SO, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS A NUMBER OF YEARS, BUT I THINK I SPEAK FOR ALL OF THIS.

I SAY WE APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS COMMISSION.

I'LL RUN THE MEETING, SO I APPRECIATE CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL SWEAR HIM IN NEXT MONTH.

ALRIGHT, , I GOT A UP YES.

TO RUN.

YEAH, THAT UP EXACTLY.

UM, NEXT IS CITIZEN'S COMMENTS.

THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR ANY CITIZEN'S COMMENTS NOT PERTAINING TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

AND HEARING NONE WILL MOVE ON TO SWEARING TO WITNESSES.

I ANNOUNCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RULES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

ANYONE WHO MAY WISH TO SPEAK OR GIVE TESTIMONY REGARDING THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN.

SO I ASK EVERYONE TO STAND, RAISE THEIR RIGHT HAND AND RESPOND.

I DO THE FOLLOWING METHOD.

DO YOU HEREBY SWEAR OR AFFIRM ON THIS RIGHT OR PERJURY TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? SO HOPE YOU, GOD, I PLEASE BE SEATED.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO, UH, WHEN YOU SPEAK, COME UP WITH A PODIUM, SIGN IN ON THE SIGNING SHEET, UH, PROVIDED AND STATE YOUR NAME.

WE HAVE NO PENDING BUSINESS.

OUR FIRST ITEM OF NEW BUSINESS IS A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THE APPLICANT CONTINENTAL 7 52 FUND, LLC, IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR APPROXIMATELY 15.73 ACRES FOR 288 UNIT MARKET RATE.

MULTI-FAMILY COMMUNITY PRO PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 62 0 9 BRINGHAM PIKE, DDP 23 DASH 29.

MR. RE.

HI, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

AARON RE, THE CITY OF ER HEIGHTS.

SO THIS SITE IS ZONED, UH, PLAN MIXED USE, UH, WITH THE BRANT PIKE REDEVELOPMENT OVERLAY.

UH, IT'S JUST UNDER 16 ACRES.

UH, IT IS, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS 288 UNITS, UH, BOTH STUDIO ONE, TWO, AND THREE BEDROOMS. THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBER 12TH.

UH, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN ORDINANCE ON, UH, OCTOBER 23RD.

UH, AND WE, UM, AND SO WE'RE HERE TODAY FOR THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL.

UH, THE ONLY CHANGES THAT, UM, THE ONLY MATERIAL CHANGES BETWEEN WHEN YOU SAW THE PROJECT, UM, IN SEPTEMBER AND TODAY, IS THAT THEY, UH, AS A RESULT OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD, UH, THEY ADDED BALCONIES TO SOME OF THE UNITS.

UM, SO OTHERWISE THE PROJECT IS, UH, LARGELY THE SAME.

SO I'M GONNA JUST GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN, UM, NORTH FOR, 'CAUSE IT'S A LONG SITE.

NORTH IS, UH, TO THE RIGHT, UH, DOES MEET ALL OF THE SETBACKS THAT WERE DESCRIBED IN THE REZONING, UH, ORDINANCE.

UH, THERE'S A, UH, 20 FOOT PARKING SETBACK.

UM, THE, THE BUILDINGS ARE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, UH, AS THEY SHOULD BE, UH, ALONG THE, THE NEW ROADWAY, UH, BETWEEN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE BACK OF THE, THE UNIT.

THEY RANGE BETWEEN, UH, THE SETBACK BETWEEN THE NEW APARTMENTS AND THE EXISTING PROPERTY LINES OF THE RESIDENCE TO THE WEST.

UM, SET THAT SETBACK RANGES ANYWHERE FROM AROUND A HUNDRED TO 117 FEET, GIVE OR TAKE.

UH, IT VARIES.

UH, AS WE CONTINUE TO HEAD SOUTH, THE SETBACK INCREASES.

FOR EXAMPLE, IN THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING, JUST OVER 200 FEET, UH, THERE'S 117 OR 111, UM, FEET BETWEEN THIS BUILDING AND THE PROPERTY LINE.

UM, SO THEY'VE MAINTAINED THAT SETBACK AND THAT SPACING AT THE REQUEST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, AND THROUGH ALL OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS THAT THEY UNDERTOOK, UH, THE APPLICANT UNDERTOOK AS PART OF THIS PROCESS.

THE DETENTION

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POND IS HERE IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE.

UM, IT MEETS ALL OF OUR STORM WATER QUALITY REQUIREMENTS MEETS THE COUNTY'S REQUIREMENT.

UM, THE, THERE IS A DUMPSTER HERE, UH, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SITE, UM, WHICH IS ALSO SCREENED ACCORDING TO OUR, UH, OUR CODE.

THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS.

UM, THESE ARE THE THREE STORY, UH, BUILDINGS THAT WILL FACE THE NEW PUBLIC ROAD, KIND OF ACROSS FROM THE LIBRARY.

THIS IS THE, THE REAR OF THE, OR, SORRY, THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION, THE ELEVATION THAT I BELIEVE FACES THE PARKING LOT.

THIS IS THE REAR ELEVATION, UM, WITH THE BALCONIES THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THEY'VE ADDED.

OOPS.

UH, THE TWO STORY, WHICH THE BUILDINGS STEP DOWN IN HEIGHT, THE CLOSER YOU GET TO THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THESE BUILDINGS ARE, UH, APPROXIMATELY 30 FEET TALL, UM, FROM THE GRADE LEVEL TO THE, UH, ROOF PEAK.

UH, SO ESSENTIALLY A TWO STORY STRUCTURE.

ALSO WITH A COUPLE BALCONIES, UH, ON THE REAR.

THIS ONE, UH, THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE CLUBHOUSE.

UM, THIS IS THE FRONT.

THIS IS WHAT YOU'LL SEE AS YOU DRIVE INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THE TOP, UH, AND THEN THE, THE BACK OF THE CLUBHOUSE.

UH, UH, HERE.

DRAINAGE HAS BEEN A BIG CONCERN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, AND THIS SITE HAS CAUSED FLOODING OVER THE YEARS, TOWARDS, TO THE REAR YARDS OF SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

UH, THE GRADING PLAN SHOWS A, UH, ESSENTIALLY A CULTURED, UH, SWALE THAT, UM, WILL CONTINUE THAT WILL, UH, RUN DOWN THE LENGTH OF THE SITE, UH, AND EVENTUALLY DUMP INTO THE DETENTION POND.

UM, THIS SWALE, UH, THAT IS, IS CREATED SHOULD ADDRESS ANY OF THE OUTSTANDING FLOODING ISSUES THAT, THAT THOSE RESIDENTS, UH, HAVE ONTO THE WEST.

THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN HAD SEVEN, UM, CONDITIONS.

ONE THAT DEALT WITH STREET TREES, SIGNS, LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING.

UH, SO I'LL GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF, UH, THOSE ITEMS. SO THE FIRST RIGHT, UH, THE FIRST, UH, CONDITION WAS THE STREET TREES, UH, BE PROVIDED 40 FOOT INTERVALS.

THE LANDSCAPING PLAN SHEETS L TWO, UH, 0.01 THROUGH 0.04 INDICATE THAT STREET TREES WILL BE PLANTED IN THE TREE LAWN OF THE NEW ROADWAY THAT WE WILL BE BUILDING.

UM, THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR, UH, ON THE SIGN PACKAGE, UH, SIGN CODE SHALL MEET CO OR THE SIGN PACKAGE MEETING COACH WILL BE SUBMITTED WITH THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THERE ARE TWO SIGNS THAT ARE INDICATED.

UH, ONE IS A SIX FOOT TALL, UH, 32 SQUARE FOOT ENTRY, UH, MONUMENT SIGN ENTRY, MONUMENT SIGN, UH, AND THE SECOND IS A 15 AND A HALF SQUARE FOOT WALL SIGN ON THE CLUBHOUSE.

UM, THE ENTRY SIGN IS LOCATED REALLY AT THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AS YOU COME INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THIS IS, UH, THE AUTHENTICS BRANDING.

UH, AND THEN THE CLUBHOUSE, UH, IT'S JUST, UH, IT IS, UH, HALO LIT CHANNEL LETTERS THAT ARE, UH, ON THE FRONT OF THE CLUBHOUSE.

YOU'LL HAVE A NICE LITTLE GLOW TO IT AT AT NIGHT.

UM, AS FAR AS THE LIGHTING PLAN, UH, THE LIGHTING PLAN INDICATES THAT THERE ARE A MIXTURE OF, UH, ANTI-GLARE, BUILDING MOUNTED LIGHTS.

UH, AND THEN THERE ARE 18 POLE MOUNTED PARKING LIGHTS.

UH, THE PHOTO, UH, PHOTOMETRIC PLANS INDICATE THAT THERE WILL BE NO LIGHT TRESPASS INTO THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WEST OF THE SITE.

IN FACT, THE, THE LIGHT TRESPASS DOESN'T COME ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINES.

UM, SO WE SHOULD BE GOOD WITH THAT.

UM, THE LANDSCAPING PLAN INDICATES A SIGNIFICANT MIX OF TREES, SHRUBS, AND ORNAMENTAL PLANTINGS.

AND SO I WILL, UH, GO OVER THAT WITH YOU.

UM, THERE'S SIGNIFICANT BUFFERING AND SCREENING, UH, WITH NEW TREES AND, AND PLANTINGS ON THE NORTH EDGE.

UH, ON THE NORTH SORT OF THIRD OF THE SITE, THE EXISTING TREE LAWN, OR THE EXISTING TREES THAT ARE HERE WILL REMAIN, UH, THEY'RE BUILDING A SIX FOOT PRIVACY FENCE BEHIND THE EXISTING TREES THAT WILL PRETTY MUCH RUN THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF, OF THE SITE.

UM, AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE STREET TREES THAT ARE ALONG THE NEW ROADWAY, AS WELL AS CLUSTERED LANDSCAPING, UH, TO BREAK UP THE BUILDING MASS.

UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TREES IN THE PARKING ISLANDS.

UM, IT DOESN'T QUITE MEET CODE, BUT ALMOST NONE OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS MEET, UH, ONE PARTICULAR SECTION OF, UH, OF THE CODE, WHICH, UH, WANTS TWO STREET TREES TO BE WITHIN 60 FEET OF, OF PARKING SPACE.

UM, WE WOULD LOSE SIGNIFICANT

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PARKING IF, IF THAT WERE, UH, ACTUALLY, UH, PLANTED LIKE THAT.

AND NONE OF THE PRO PROJECTS THAT I WORKED ON IN TWO YEARS MEETS THAT SECTION.

IT'S PROBABLY A SECTION THAT WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD LOOK AT.

'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S PRETTY MUCH UNACHIEVABLE AS WE COME DOWN TO THE SOUTH.

UM, THE LANDSCAPING ON THE, UH, ENTRY FEATURE, AGAIN, PARKING, UH, TREES IN THE PARKING AISLE THERE.

SORRY, THE, YEAH, THE PARKING AISLES, UM, THE LANDSCAPE AISLES, THE EXISTING TREE, THE EXISTING TREES ARE MAINTAINED.

YOU CAN SEE THIS FENCE COMES, COMES DOWN HERE AND THEN KIND OF MAKES KIND OF A WESTERN, UH, SLIGHT WESTERN JOG.

WHAT WAS PROPOSED ORIGINALLY WAS THIS FENCE WOULD COME DOWN ALL THE WAY TO THE RETENTION POND, AND THESE TREES WOULD BE BUILT BEHIND THE FENCE.

THIS IS A LONG RUN OF JUST LOOKING AT A WHITE VINYL FENCE.

WHAT I ASKED THE APPLICANT TO DO WAS STAGGER THE TREES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE.

UM, NOT NECESSARILY INCREASING THE NUMBER OF TREES, JUST PLANT ONE ON EITHER SIDE AND STAGGER THEM TO BREAK UP, UM, BREAK UP THAT LONG FENCE RUN FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S PERSPECTIVE.

UH, SO THEY'RE GONNA REVISE THE PLANTS TO, UH, TO, TO DO SUCH.

SO THAT'LL BREAK UP THAT I LIKE 700 FOOT RUN OF FENCING.

UM, SEE THE FENCE.

AND THEN REALLY IT'S DIFFICULT TO, WITHOUT SCREWING UP THE, UM, THE GRADE.

UM, THIS WILL, THE FENCE HERE WILL ALSO SCREEN THE, THE LANCE, THE, UH, RETENTION POND.

UM, BUT AGAIN, ON THE SOUTHERN END, UH, A MIXTURE OF PLANTINGS TREES.

THERE IS SHRUBS AROUND, UH, IN THE FRONT OF THE, THE TRASH RECEPTACLES.

UH, AND THEN AGAIN, PARKING LOT TREES AND STREET TREES.

SO WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE 60 FOOT, UM, DISTANCE BETWEEN PARKING SPACES AND TREES, THIS, THE, THE LANDSCAPING PLAN, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY COMPLIES WITH OUR, UH, LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.

UM, THE FIFTH AND SIXTH, UM, UH, CONDITION IS THAT THE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL COMPLY WITH STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS PER THE CITY ENGINEER.

UH, IN TALKING WITH RUSS, THE STORMWATER, UM, PLAN, UM, EXCEEDS OUR REQUIREMENTS.

UM, SO, UM, HE'S PLEASED WITH THAT.

UH, THE FIRE CODE, THE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT'S COMMENTS WERE LARGELY THE SAME, UH, AS THEY WERE WITH THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THEY CAME IN AFTER I WROTE THE STAFF REPORT AND IT WAS SENT OUT TO YOU.

UH, BUT WE WILL WORK WITH, UH, WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THE, THE, UM, REQUIREMENTS WITH THE APPLICANT YESTERDAY.

UH, AND THEY'RE FINE WITH, UH, WITH OTHER THINGS.

SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD.

MOST OF IT IS JUST TECHNICAL DETAILS REGARDING, UM, UH, PRESSURE PUMPS, HYDRANT LOCATION, THAT KIND OF THING.

SO, STAFF'S OPINION, THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION CONFORMS WITH THE ORDINANCE APPROVED BY, UH, COUNCIL.

ADDITIONALLY, THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN GENERALLY CONFORMS WITH ALL RELEVANT ZONING REGULATIONS INCLUDING LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING, PARKING, ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, AND SIGNS.

UH, AT THE SUGGESTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT HAS ADDED BALCONIES TO THOSE EASTERN MOST UNITS STAFF.

UH, SO OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THE PROPOSAL MEETS THE STANDARDS OUTLINED IN 1170 0.09, AND WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUBMITTED ON NOVEMBER 17TH TO CONSTRUCT APPROXIMATELY 288 MARKET RATE, UH, APARTMENTS.

UH, WE ONLY HAVE TWO CONDITIONS, UH, ONE THAT THE APPLICANT CONFORMS TO THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AS THE ORDINANCE APPROVED ON OCTOBER 23RD.

UH, AND THEN THE APPROVED SITE, UM, PLAN ELEVATION LANDSCAPING SIGNING PLANS SHALL BE THOSE STAMPED RECEIVED NOVEMBER 17TH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, UH, WE DO WANT TO CHANGE THE LANDSCAPING PLAN TO SHOW THOSE STAGGERED TREES.

BUT OTHERWISE, UM, WE ARE, WE'RE MORE THAN COMFORTABLE WITH THIS PLAN.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM SETH? MS. ORGA, UM, I'M SORRY.

IN THE, UH, WHEN YOU STARTED YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU SAID THERE WAS ONLY ONE CHANGE AND I DIDN'T CATCH WHAT THAT WAS.

THEY ADDED BALCONIES, UM, SO THEY ADDED BALCONIES TO THOSE TWO AT THE END.

OKAY.

YEP.

UM, WHERE ARE, WILL THE MAILBOXES BE LOCATED? YEAH, SO THE MAILBOXES, THERE'S A STRUCTURE RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE CLUBHOUSE, UM, WHERE THE MAILBOXES WILL BE.

OKAY.

AND THEN WILL YOU EXPLAIN AGAIN ABOUT THE FENCE? IT, WILL IT GO THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE BACK, OR DID YOU SAY IT'S GONNA STOP? UH, ABOUT

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HALFWAY.

SO, UM, THE FENCE RUNS THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE SITE.

UM, ON THE UPPER THIRD PART OF THE SITE, IT'S BEHIND THE EXISTING TREES.

OKAY.

UH, AND SO THE NEIGHBORS AREN'T GONNA SEE THE FENCE, BUT THE RESIDENT WILL.

OKAY.

UM, ON THE BOTTOM, THIRD OR SO, BOTTOM HALF THE FENCE IS VISIBLE TO THE, TO THE RESIDENCE BEHIND.

UH, AND WHAT WE'VE ASKED IS THAT THEY STA INSTEAD OF LINING THE TREES ON THE, ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF THE FENCE, I'VE ASKED THEM TO STAGGER THE TREES, BOTH ON THE RESIDENT SIDE AND THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE TO SOFTEN THE IMPACT OF, OF SUCH A LARGE FENCE.

AND I'M ASSUMING THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT DISCUSSION.

UM, THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS, UM, IN THE DISCUSSION.

AS FAR AS SETBACKS, I'M NOT SURE IF THE RESIDENTS HAVE SEEN OUTSIDE OF THIS, THIS REVISED LANDSCAPE PLAN, BUT THE TREES WOULD NOT BE ON THE RESIDENCE.

PROPERTY THEY'LL BE ON.

OKAY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH.

I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

YES.

UNLIKE THE OLD DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS GONNA REPLACE EVERYBODY'S FENCE DISPENSES.

STEP BACK.

STEP BACK FURTHER, MR. CASON.

YEAH.

SO AARON, THERE'S A LOT OF COMMENTS ON THIS FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, DOCUMENT.

HAVE, HAVE YOU REVIEWED THIS? HAS THE APPLICANT REVIEWED THIS? WE HAVE.

WE WENT OVER IT, UM, YESTERDAY.

UM, THE ONLY ONE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE, UM, BETWEEN WHAT WAS OUTLINED IN THE, UM, BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, FIRE RESPONSE, AND WHAT, WHAT WE GOT FRIDAY WAS DEALT WITH BUILDING HEIGHTS.

UM, SO TECHNICALLY BASED ON THE, THE FIRE COATS, THESE BUILDINGS ARE 30 FEET, TWO AND FIVE EIGHTS INCHES TALL.

THIS LANE SHOULD BE 26 FEET.

UM, UNLESS THE BUILDINGS ARE SPRINKLED, UM, WHAT THEY, I DON'T THINK THE FIRE REVIEWER KNEW THAT THESE BUILDINGS ARE SPRINKLED.

SO IT CAN REMAIN AT 24 FEET, BUT THEY'RE ASKING FOR 26.

WE WILL BE CHANGING THE, UM, GO TO THE BETTER.

SO THIS MAIN ROAD THAT RUNS THE SPINE, KIND OF THE FRONT ACCESS DRIVE, IT VACILLATES BETWEEN 27, 26 AND 24 FEET.

THIS WILL BE CHANGED TO BE ALL 26.

UM, THE SMALLER EAST WEST CONNECTIONS CAN REMAIN AT 24 FEET AS LONG AS THE BUILDINGS ARE, UM, SPRINKLED.

AND SO THE, THE FIRE CODE ISSUES THAT, THAT ARE OUTLINED WILL ALL BE ADDRESSED.

IT WON'T ALTER THIS SITE PLAN.

AND WHAT ABOUT THE, THE HYBRID SPACING? YEAH, SO THEY'LL HANDLE THAT.

THE ENGINEERS HERE, UH, AND WE'LL HANDLE THAT WITH REGINA.

WHEN IT COMES TO PERMITTING, THAT'S A PRETTY COMMON COMMENT THAT WE GET.

UM, 'CAUSE THERE'S THE FIRST DRAFT OF WHERE THE WATER OR THE FIRE HYDRANTS ARE GONNA GO.

AND THEN THEY WORK TO COME UP WITH A, A BETTER SOLUTION.

THANK YOU.

MR. JEFFRIES.

AARON, CAN YOU GO TO ONE THAT SHOWS BEHIND BUILDING THREE OF ONE LANDSCAPING THE NORTHERN SECTION, I GUESS.

YEAH.

SO AM I CORRECT THAT ON THE FENCE? ON THE, ON THE, ON THIS SIDE OF THE FENCE, THERE'S GONNA BE NO PLANNING BASICALLY IN THAT BIG GAP, THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING.

SO YES.

AND THE FENCE, THE RESIDENTS WOULD SEE THE FENCE HERE.

THERE'S A DRAINAGE SWALE THAT COMES DOWN THIS WAY.

THAT'S WHAT THAT'S INDICATED.

THERE'S A FENCE.

AND THEN ON THE RESIDENT SIDE, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIDE, ALL OF THESE EXISTING TREES REMAIN.

SO IS IT, IS IT NORMALLY WE WOULD'VE THAT BIG OF A GAP IN THERE AS FAR AS NOT HAPPENING.

I KNOW IT'S NOT STREET, BUT WOULD WE NOT HAVE LANDSCAPING ON THAT SIDE TO BREAK UP? I MEAN IT'S, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A BIG WHITE VINYL FENCE.

SO OUR CODE WOULDN'T REQUIRE IT.

OUR CODE CARESS ABOUT THE FIRST 20 FEET HERE.

MM-HMM.

, UH, IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO PLANT TREES, THEN THAT IS PERFECTLY FINE WITH US FROM A CODE STANDPOINT.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN CAN YOU GO TO THE ONE THAT JUST SHOWS THE BUILD THE LAYOUT OF ALL THE BUILDINGS? YEAH.

I DON'T HAVE A GRAY SLIDE 'CAUSE IT'S SUCH A BIG SITE, BUT THAT KIND IS AS GOOD AS IT GETS.

THAT ONE.

UM, I WAS LOOKING AT THE ONE LIKE THIS IN THE PACKET.

OH, THE SIGN SIDE.

OKAY.

JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S ON THE SAME PAGE.

WHAT WERE YOU LOOKING FOR? THIS ONE SHOWS ALL OF THEM.

SO IT'S ON THE ONES WHERE WE TALK ABOUT ADDING BALCONIES.

SO I GUESS FIRST WAS DID COUNSEL HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS AS FAR AS THE BALCONY UNDER THAT CAME FROM RESIDENT

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DISCUSSIONS? NO PERSPECTIVE.

NO, THAT DIDN'T COME UP AT ALL.

SO, SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT BUILDING 2, 4, 5, 8 AND 10 ARE THE EASTERN MOST BUILDINGS, THOSE ARE THE ONES I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BALCONIES, CORRECT? YEAH.

I'M GONNA ACTUALLY ASK TREVOR TO UM, CLARIFY.

I KNOW THAT THE EASTERN MOST B BUILDINGS CERTAINLY HAVE BALCONIES.

UM, THIS GUY HERE ON THE, ON THE FAR WEST IS NOT.

YEAH.

UM, I THINK IT'S UNCLEAR BASED ON THE PLANS WHETHER THE EAST, WEST FACING B UH, BUILDINGS DO.

SO BUILDING, BUILDING ONE IS, LOOK, YOU GO WHERE YOU WERE JUST AT A SECOND AGO.

OH OKAY.

SORRY.

ALRIGHT.

UP THE NEXT, THE ONE THAT JUST SHOW THE HOLDER ON.

OKAY.

SO THE TOP LEFT CORNER OF BUILDING THREE ON MY BLOCK AND THEN THE NEXT HORIZONTAL ONE IN THE MIDDLE IS BUILDING ONE.

SO IT'S TWO STORY.

RIGHT.

SO THAT TWO STORY BUILDING'S 200 FEET AWAY FROM THE HOUSE AND IT'S A TWO STORY.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT, HOW MUCH THEY WANT TO DO AS FAR AS BALCONIES, BUT I DO THINK IF THEY WANT THE FLEXIBILITY, I'M GOOD WITH TALKING ABOUT IT ON TWO STORY.

BUT AT LEAST ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THOSE BUILDINGS, IF NOT THE BACKSIDE, TO GIVE 'EM THE FLEXIBILITY.

I'M BUILDING ONE AND THREE.

OKAY.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S EXCLUDED RIGHT NOW.

AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'D WANT TO DO, I'D BE FINE WITH DISCUSSING IT.

BUT THAT'S FACING AWAY FROM ALL THE NEIGHBORS SO IT SHOULDN'T IMPACT NEIGHBORS AT ALL.

AND IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A CHANGE THEY'D WANT TO LOOK AT, IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO COVER THAT TONIGHT SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH ANY CHANGES LATER, THAT JUST GIVES 'EM THE FLEXIBILITY ON THAT SIDE.

UM, I THINK PERSONALLY THE BALCONIES MAKE IT MORE MARKETABLE.

UH, IT EXPANDS WHO WOULD ENTERTAIN IT.

THEY CAN TAKE, MY SON IS RIGHT IN THEIR DEMOGRAPHIC OF TARGET AUDIENCE OF I CAN AFFORD SOMETHING WITH MORE, BUT I DON'T NEED ALL THE FRILLS.

I'LL TAKE A LITTLE LESS, BUT A BALCONY'S A BACK A DEAL BREAKER FOR HIM.

UM, SO IT MAKES ME CONCERNED OF THEM HAVING TO SLASH RINSE OR ANYTHING IN THE FUTURE.

I'M SURE THERE'S GONNA BE A DIFFERENT RENT RATE FOR WITH OR WITHOUT A BALCONY, BUT JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY THAT IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT'S COMPLETELY FAIR TO THE RESIDENTS.

'CAUSE IT'S THE OPPOSITE SIDE FACING AWAY FROM THEM.

SO IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT AND IF WE JUST MAKE SURE THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR IT.

YEAH.

SO THOSE KIND OF CHANGES TEND TO BE KIND OF, CAN BE A JUDGMENT CALL.

UM, THE WAY I OPERATE IS IF THE CODE DOESN'T ABSOLUTELY PRESCRIBE THAT IT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO THIS BOARD.

AND IF I FEEL IT'S AN UPGRADE TO THE PROJECT, I DON'T BRING IT BACK.

YEAH.

UH, IF IT, IF I FEEL IT'S A DOWNGRADE AND SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO YELL AT ME ABOUT IN THE FUTURE, THEN I'LL BRING IT BACK.

YEAH.

AND I WOULD'VE THE SAME COMMENTS ON REALLY I'M BUILDING SIX, SEVEN, AND NINE EVEN THEY'RE TWO STORY BUILDINGS.

CORRECT.

YEP.

AND THEY'RE PLENTY FAR.

I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO STORY HOUSES CLOSER TO THESE HOUSES THAN THIS IS.

SO EVEN IF THEY SAID JUST ON THE EASTERN HALF OF THOSE BUILDINGS, IF THEY WANTED THE ABILITY ABOUT THESE OR SOMETHING, I'M, I'M OPEN TO DISCUSSION IT ON, ON ON EVERY UNIT HONESTLY.

BUT TO BE FAIR, KEEPING IT DISTANCE FROM THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD IT ON THE ONES FACING AWAY FROM THEM AND FORWARD ENOUGH.

UH, SO OKAY.

SO, SO AS LONG AS EVERYBODY ELSE IS GOOD WITH THAT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE FLEXIBILITY'S THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK AND HAVE ANOTHER MEETING ABOUT IT.

I CONCUR WITH YOU.

SO, AND I I HAVE A QUESTION ALSO ON THE DUMPSTER.

YES.

ONE DUMPSTER FOR 288 UNITS IS CONCERNING TO ME.

YEAH.

SO I DID, UH, ASK ABOUT THAT.

UM, SO THEY HAVE VALET TRASH PICKUP.

UM, SO THEY, THEIR MANAGEMENT COMPANY VALETS IT TO THE DUMPSTER.

WOW.

AND HOW OFTEN IS THE DUMPSTER GETTING REMOVED FOR 288 UNITS OR 2 88 UNITS EVEN WITH WENT THAT LA AND IT FELL QUICK.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I'M GONNA GUESS IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, MINIMUM, UH, TWICE A MONTH KIND OF PICK UP.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S A COMPACTOR.

PROBABLY A COMPACTOR.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO WE CAN COVER THAT WITH THEM.

THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG, AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT IS THAT BECAUSE I I'VE SEEN SOME STUFF.

YEAH.

SO I'VE SEEN IT AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE MAIN CONCERN THERE.

UM, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT.

MS. FARGO, SINCE HE BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE DUMPSTERS.

IF THEY ARE OVERFLOWING, WILL THE RESIDENTS HAVE THE ABILITY TO CALL THE CITY AND THE CITY GET IN TOUCH WITH 'EM? OR SINCE IT'S PRIVATE, ARE WE OUT OF A ORDER? NO, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD, IF IT WERE OVERFLOWING AND A IN A NUISANCE, UM, WE WOULD GET INVOLVED.

LIKE WE WOULD, I MEAN WE GET INVOLVED IN PRIVATE, UM, PROPERTY ISSUES LIKE THAT ALL THE TIME.

OKAY.

BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ONSITE PEOPLE THAT

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WOULD KNOW THE CONDITION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE.

AND, UH, WITH, WITH THIS LARGE A COMPLEX, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO, UH, CONTROL.

NO, WE DEAL WITH THAT, THAT FOR BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, IT'S A BIGGER DEAL WITH THOSE, UM, DONATION BOXES THAN IT IS FOR THE, THE ACTUAL TRASH RECEPTACLES.

BUT YEAH, WE, WE GET INVOLVED IN THAT.

I JUST LOOK AT MOVING DAYS AND STUFF WHERE PEOPLE DON'T BREAK DOWN BOXES OR JUST CHUCK 'EM IN THERE.

BUT YOU KNOW, ONE MOVE IN WILL FILL THAT DUMPSTER AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF MOVE INS QUICKLY IN THE BEGINNING.

RIGHT.

SO TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE AT THAT NORTHWEST CORNER UP ABOVE BUILDING THREE IS JUST A NATURAL LANE FOR IT.

IT IS NEAR A BUILDING AND I KNOW YOU DON'T PUT DUMPSTERS RIGHT OUTSIDE THE BUILDING, BUT IT, I, IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY.

UM, SO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT IT COVERED.

IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE DOWN THE ROAD, WE'VE GOT A SPOT AND IT, THERE'RE AT LEAST OPEN TO ADDRESSING IT IMMEDIATELY.

UM, IS THAT, THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN.

288 UNITS AND ONE ONE DUMPSTER EVEN WITH VALLEY TRASH.

THOMAS, EVERYTHING THEY'VE ASKED IS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM STAFF? THANK YOU SIR.

MM-HMM.

UP FOR THE PUBLIC.

ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT? HELLO EVERYBODY.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN EACH OTHER SEVERAL TIMES HERE IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

UH, IN CASE YOU FORGOT, I'M TREVOR STALER WITH CONTINENTAL PROPERTIES.

UM, I DID NOT PREPARE A PRESENTATION TONIGHT.

I JUST THOUGHT WE COULD BE QUICK.

UM, BUT I WILL ADDRESS ANY OF THESE, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE.

UM, SO GOING TO THE, THE BALCONIES COMMENT BUILDING NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE CLUBHOUSE, THERE ARE BALCONIES ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT, THE EASTERN SIDE.

UM, WE DID FEEL THE SAME AS THAT IT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF A BUILDING, PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT.

IT'S ALSO OVERLOOKING THE POOL, WHICH MIGHT BE A NICE AMENITY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING THERE.

UM, I DO APPRECIATE THE FLEXIBILITY TO ADD BALCONIES, ESPECIALLY LIKE SIX AND SEVEN.

THEY'RE FACING EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY FACING, UM, A I'M SORRY, THE NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST THERE.

SO WE ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE THAT FLEXIBILITY.

I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO, YOU KNOW, MY CONSTRUCTION TEAM AND SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN.

UM, BUT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DISCUSS THAT.

UM, IN REFERENCE TO THE TRASH.

UM, I DO WANT TO CLARIFY.

YEP, THERE IS, THE LONGER PORTION OF THAT IS A COMPACTOR.

UM, SO THAT OBVIOUSLY HELPS WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRASH THAT WE NEED TO GET PICKED UP.

AND THEN ALSO ON THE, ON THE ARM THAT COMES OFF OF IT, THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO STANDALONE DUMPSTERS AS WELL.

SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY JUST LIKE ONE SINGULAR, YOU KNOW, EIGHT BY FOUR DUMPSTER THAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE.

UM, ALSO WE DO HAVE FIVE TO SIX PEOPLE WHO ARE ON STAFF, UH, AT LEAST SIX DAYS A WEEK.

UM, USUALLY THEY HAVE OFTEN SUNDAYS.

UM, SO THAT INCLUDES MAINTENANCE TECHNICIANS ARE OUR LEASING STAFF.

UM, SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE MOVING IN, UH, YOU OBVIOUSLY SIGN UP FOR THAT.

WE KNOW WHEN YOU'RE MOVING IN.

UM, SO OUR MAINTENANCE TEAM IS ACTUALLY AVAILABLE TO HELP YOU MOVE THINGS IN, BREAK DOWN THOSE BOXES, TAKE 'EM TO THE TRASH COMPACTOR BECAUSE FOR THOSE ISSUES, RIGHT, IF SOMEONE JUST BREAKS DOWN THE, OR THROWS THEIR BOX ON THE CURB AND LEAVES IT, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY WHEN THEY'RE MOVING IN LOOKS NICE.

AND THEN WHEN THE NEXT PERSON MOVES IN THE NEXT DAY, IT'S ALSO LOOKING NICE.

UM, IN ADDITION TO, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY GETS A NEW CHAIR OR A COUCH OR WHATEVER THEY, WE, OR I SHOULD, I SHOULD SAY WE SET, WE TELL THEM THAT THEY CAN LET AND NOTIFY OUR MAINTENANCE TEAM AND THEY'LL REMOVE IT SO IT'S PROPERLY TAKEN CARE OF TO THE TRASH AND PROPERLY DISPOSED OF, UM, AS OPPOSED TO PEOPLE JUST THROWING IT AT THE DUMPSTER AND JUST HOPING SOMEBODY TAKES CARE OF IT.

UM, SO HOPEFULLY THAT ALLEVIATES SOME OF THAT ISSUE.

AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, IT'S VALET TRASH.

UM, THAT HAPPENS AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK, UM, WHERE PEOPLE LIKE, IT'S JUST A PART OF THEIR RENT, THEY CAN JUST LEAVE IT AT THEIR FUN STEP.

OUR MAINTENANCE TEAM COMES AROUND, GRABS THE TRASH, TAKES IT TO THE DUMPSTER FOR THEM.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT RUNNING DOWN THERE.

SO, UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK IF THERE WAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD JUST NOW THAT I COULD ADDRESS.

I DON'T THINK SO.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK WITH MS. EVAN? CASE? DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD.

UM, YEAH, I'M UH, ANDREW ON WITH THE RECORD CONSTRUCTION POINT.

I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT.

UH, THEY PROBABLY ADDRESS MOST OF YOUR COMMENTS AND CONCERNS, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING ENGINEERING-WISE THAT YOU ADD, UH, YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO UH, ASK ME.

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I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YES.

MORNING PODIUM.

YES.

OKAY.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

I'M BRIAN RE RESIDENT OF VS.

BERRY DRIVE.

UM, QUESTION ABOUT THE, COULD YOU SIGN IN SIR? IT SHOULD BE A, A SIGN IN ON THE SHEET PROVIDED A QUESTION ABOUT THE OFFSET.

YOU MENTIONED AROUND A HUNDRED FEET.

MM-HMM.

, UH, WHERE DOES THAT BEGIN? AT THE PRIVACY FENCE OR, OR WHERE? YEAH, IT PRETTY MUCH, NO, IT, THE, THE OFFSET IS MEASURED BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINES, SO PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY'S FENCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AND THE BACK OF THE BUILDINGS.

AND SO IT VARIES BETWEEN A HUNDRED AND LIKE 117 FEET.

OKAY.

SO THE, AT THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE, IT'S ACTUALLY AT THE BUILDINGS, IS THAT CORRECT? SO LEMME GIVE A BETTER PICTURE.

SO WE'RE HERE, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S THE PROPERTY LINE.

MM-HMM.

, THIS IS 114 FEET.

OKAY.

TO THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

THIS IS ONE 11, THIS IS 1 72 TO THE BACK OF THE BUILDING HERE.

OKAY, GOTCHA.

UH, BUILDING ONE.

IS THAT TWO STORIES? IT IS.

OKAY.

SO ANY OF THE BUILDINGS TOWARD THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIDE ARE ALL TWO STORIES, CORRECT? CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

I MISSED ALL THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS.

SORRY.

UH, UM, LET ME ASK ABOUT THE PRIVACY FENCE.

WHAT, WHY IS THAT CONSIDERED A, A NECESSITY? IT'S OR IS IT CONSIDERED A NECESSITY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT? IT IS NOT, IT IS NOT A CODE REQUIRED, UM, NECESSITY THAT COULD, THAT SCREENING COULD BE HANDLED BY MOUNDING AND PLANTING, UH, THE DEVELOPER IS ELECTED TO PUT THE FENCE IN.

OKAY.

NOW, EARLIER ON THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION OF A, A BERM OR A MOUND BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE DEVELOPMENT AS A, A WAY OF, UH, WALKING VISIBILITY.

YEAH.

UH, I GUESS WAS THAT LET GO OF AT SOME POINT IT WAS BECAUSE, UM, WHAT WAS, SO THERE'S BEEN TWO ITERATIONS OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS ON THIS SITE.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, THE PROBLEM WITH THE MOUNTING IS THAT THAT WAS GOING TO EXASPERATE THE FLOODING ISSUES THAT ALREADY OCCUR ON THE, UM, ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIDE OF THE, THE PROPERTY.

MM-HMM.

.

SO WE, WE AS STAFF TRIED TO AT LEAST FOR LIKE A SIX FOOT MOUND US, WE UH, WE WERE TRIED TO DISSUADE THE DEVELOPERS FROM DOING THAT BECAUSE ALL OF THAT WATER WAS GOING TO SHEAR INTO THE BACK OF THE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS FROM THE NEIGHBORS.

UH, AND SO THIS SHOULD AVOID THAT, THAT PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE IS FLOODING THAT OCCURS BACK THERE.

YEAH.

AND SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THIS SOLUTION SOLVES THAT PROBLEM.

ALRIGHT.

UM, AND, UH, SIX FOOT PRIVACY SENSE, FIVE FENCE.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY OF NOT HAVING WHITE, I KNOW IT'D BE LARGELY INVISIBLE IF PLAN UNFOLDS AS YOU'RE SAYING, WITH TREES, BUT LARGELY NOT VISIBLE TO THE NEIGHBORS.

IS THAT CORRECT? THE FENCE? WELL, I WOULDN'T SAY IT.

IT'S A, IT IS A LONG LIGHT FENCE, SO OKAY.

THE TREES WILL HELP, UM, BREAK THAT UP, BUT IT'S STILL A LONG WHITE FENCE.

OKAY.

WHITE IS HIGHLY VISIBLE, ALMOST TO THE POINT OF BEING INTRUSIVE.

THIS IS JUST HOW I SEE IT.

UH, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT IT COULD BE A SHADE OF GRAY OR MAYBE TAN SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHITE? SO IT'S DEATH IS COLOR INDIFFERENT, .

UM, AND IF, UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK WITH THE DEVELOPER ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S MAYBE A LITTLE LESS REFLECTIVE.

MM-HMM.

AND, UM, AND KIND OF MORE MUTED.

OKAY.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

UH, YOU MENTIONED LIGHTING.

SOUND LIKE THAT'S GOING WELL NOT INTRUSIVE TO THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

NO.

HOW TALL ARE THE POLES IN THE PARKING LOTS AT THE TOP OF WHICH THERE WILL BE LIGHTS? YEAH.

THE POLES ARE 25 FEET.

OKAY.

WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT THAT WE ALLOW IN, UM, A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

MM-HMM.

.

AND THOSE ARE, THERE WILL BE NOTHING POINTED TOWARD, UH, THE HOUSES ALONG THE BURY? NO, NONE OF THEM SHOULD.

UM, YOU SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SEE ANY OF THE ELEMENTS.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND YOU SHOULD NOT, BASED ON THE, THE PHOTOMETRIC PLANS, YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY LIGHT TRESPASS.

UM, IF THERE IS, UM, THEN WE WOULD REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO COME BACK AND IN, UH, INSTALL A SHIELDING ON ONE SIDE.

ALRIGHT.

I KNOW THE RESIDENTS OF BERRY AND I'VE BEEN THERE, UH, OFF AND ON SINCE THE AGE OF ONE

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MINE IS BUILT.

UM, HAVE ALWAYS ENJOYED A VIEW OF GREEN SPACE RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING ELSE.

AND, UH, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WE'D LOVE TO KEEP THAT.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SIR.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK WITH MS. CASE? WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION, SIR.

EVERYBODY GOOD? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO CONCERNS.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT'S CONTINENTAL 7 52 FUND LLC FOR APPROVAL OF A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR APPROXIMATELY 15.73 ACRES? PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 62 0 9 BRAND PIKE CASE DDP 2329 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFFS AND THE MEMORANDUM DATED DECEMBER 7TH, 2023.

AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION RECORD ATTACHED TO MOVE BY MR. JEFFRIES.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. THOMAS? UH, SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE RULE.

MR. CASSIDY? YES.

MS. VARGO? YES.

MR. THOMAS? YES.

MR. JEFFRIES? YES.

MR. WALTON? YES.

MOTION PASSES BY THE ZERO.

WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, SO, UM, THE NEXT STEPS ARE THE CITY NEEDS TO FINISH THE RELA, UM, OF THIS, OF THIS LOT.

UM, SO THAT WILL EITHER BE ON THE JANUARY 8TH OR FEBRUARY 13TH, UM, MEETING.

UH, AND IN THE MEANTIME THEY CAN, UH, THE APPLICANT CAN FINISH UP ALL THEIR CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS, UH, AND MOVE FORWARD FOR PERMITS.

UM, BUT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH A STREAM DELINEATION WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS FOR THE NEW ROADWAY.

UH, I THINK WE OPENED THE BIDS FOR THAT ROADWAY FRIDAY, I BELIEVE.

UH, AND SO WE ARE KIND OF MARCHING DOWN PARALLEL PATHS.

CURIOUS QUESTION, THESE ROADWAYS WHEN THEY GET NAMED, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? OR WHAT IS THE PROCESS OF NAMING THE ROADWAYS? TYPICALLY A DEVELOPER SUBMITS THE ROADWAY NAMES TO THE, TO THE CITY ENGINEER WHO THEN FLOATS IT TO THE COUNTY ENGINEER.

UM, AND THEN THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IT ENDS.

OKAY.

UM, DO YOU HAVE CONCERNS? NO, NOT AT ALL.

I JUST, I I'M JUST CURIOUS.

YEAH.

TYPICALLY, UM, THE DEVELOPER BACK NO, NO.

DIDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY, ONE PERSON PICKS IT OUT.

WE, I THINK WE NAMED THOSE ROADS INTERNALLY, UH, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.

OKAY.

I'VE THOUGHT SINCE IT'S THE CENTER OF TOWN, IT WOULD BE NEITHER THE ROADS WERE NAMED AFTER OR THE CITY FOUNDERS.

I CAN TELL YOU I SUBMITTED A PLAN.

AM I ALLOWED TO TALK THIS FAR BACK? UM, IF YOU COME UP WITH A MICROPHONE USE, IT'S EVERYBODY HERE.

I KNOW THAT I HAD SUBMITTED A PLAN TO RUSS, UM, WITH POTENTIAL NAMES.

UM, 'CAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ADDRESSING, UM, AND THEY WERE ALL BASED ON LIKE THE MAIN ROAD WOULD BE WARRIOR WAY.

UM, ONE OF THEM WAS LIKE CENTRON CIRCLE AND I THINK THE OTHER ONE WAS LIKE SPARTAN CIRCLE KIND OF GOING OFF OF THE WARRIOR HIGH SCHOOL MASCOT VIBE.

BUT YOU MIGHT GET A LITTLE PUSHBACK ON WARRIOR WAY.

THERE IS WARRIOR WAY IN THERE.

CHAMBERSBURG IS DEDICATED WARRIOR WAY JUST ON, JUST IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL.

YEAH.

GOTCHA.

SO BASICALLY, I LIKE ONE OF YOUR QUESTION.

UH, IT IS THE TWO ENGINEERS THAT GET TOGETHER, WE MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT NOT TOO MANY, UM, DUPLICATES OR HARD TO PRONOUNCE WHEN IT COMES TO EMS AND ALL OF THAT.

SO WE MAKE THE CREATIVITY STUFF TO ENGINEERS JUST, JUST TELL YOU HOW THE PROCESS WORKS.

NOT NECESSARILY THAT THAT'S WAY IT SHOULD WORK.

, THANK YOU.

NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL MINUTES WITHOUT OBJECTION TO THE MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 14TH, 2023.

PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WILL BE APPROVED.

HEARING NO OBJECTIONS.

WE WILL, UH, THEY ARE APPROVED REPORTS AND CALENDAR REVIEW THE 2024 MEETING SCHEDULE, WHICH WAS ATTACHED.

YEAH.

SO, UH, THERE'S THE 2024 SCHEDULE.

UM, THE ONLY REAL CHANGE OUTSIDE OF OUR NORMAL SECOND TUESDAY IS THE JANUARY 8TH, WHICH IS THE, UH, SECOND MONDAY.

UH, ALSO THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME, UH, FULL OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

UH, RIGHT NOW THERE IS NOTHING ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE MAY, DEPENDING ON THE TIMING, UM, WE MAY HAVE THAT RECORD PLANNED, BUT THAT SHOULD BE QUICK.

UH, IF I CAN PUSH THAT BASED ON, UH, CONSTRUCTION TIMING TO THE 14TH OR TO THE FEBRUARY MEETING, I'LL, I DON'T WANT TO JUST HAVE A MEETING FOR A RECORD PLAN IF I CAN AVOID IT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

WELL, I'LL, I'LL CLOSE IN SAYING, UH,

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EVERYBODY HAVE A HAPPY HOLIDAY.

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.

MERRY CHRISTMAS.

HAPPY NEW YEAR'S TO YOU.

AND NOW I WOULD, I I JUST WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CITY FOR ALLOWING US TO GO TO THE, UH, THAT THAT WAS A GREAT, UM, THING THAT THEY HAD AT SINCLAIR.

UH, PLANNING.

PLANNING ON A WORKSHOP.

MM-HMM.

.

YES.

AND, UH, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT I APPRECIATE THE WRITING OR MAKING SURE THAT WE GO EVERY YEAR BECAUSE I RUN SOMETHING EVERY TIME.

AND MAKE SURE THAT THE, UH, TRAVELING PHOTOGRAPHER MAKES SURE VIRGINIA'S UP IN FRONT WITH THE REST OF IT.

.

OH, .

YOU SAW THAT CHAIN ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.