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[ AGENDA PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road October 19, 2023 6:30 P.M.]
GOOD TO GO.ALRIGHT, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER BECAUSE WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL.
ALEX BLACK, PRESENT JUSTICE BONDERANT.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO EXCUSE THE ABSENCE? A SECOND.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO OPEN THE REMARKS BY THE CHAIR.
I'LL JUST WAIT UNTIL WE START DISCUSSING THE, UH, PRIORITY LIST FOR NEXT YEAR IS 2024.
UM, ITEM FOUR ON THE AGENDA IS THE CITIZEN COMMENTS.
UM, THE POND AT THE Y IT HAS SO MUCH.
IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN GET A FOUNTAIN TO IRRIGATE IT? I MEAN, IT'S SUCH A PRETTY PROPERTY COMING INTO THE CITY, BUT BY THE TIME OF YEAR IT'S LOOKING REAL BAD, YOU KNOW, SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF IRRIGATION TO TRY TO CLEAN THAT UP.
AND I KNOW, UM, YOU GUYS ARE GONNA TELL US ABOUT DIAL DRIVE, THE PARK ON DIAL, DRIVE, DIAL PARK.
UM, WELL, YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT, BUT, UH, I JUST, UM, I KNOW YOU GET A LOT OF GRANTS FOR THAT AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD DO LIKE, COMPLETELY REDO THE BASKETBALL COURTS, LIKE THE REAL ASPHALT THAT NEEDS TO, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE 'EM LOOK NICE.
'CAUSE I'M SEEING A LOT OF OLDER MEN EVEN, UM, PLAYING AT COTTONWOOD AND JUST, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE THE BASKETBALL COURTS BEFORE WE SPENT MORE MONEY ON ONE PARK.
CAN WE BRING ALL THE PARKS UP TO NOT, YOU KNOW, TO LOOK NICE.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE ONE? I DIDN'T, OH, NOTHING.
IT BACKS UP TO ME, SO I DON'T WANT, I'M NOT A FAN OF THAT BECAUSE THAT'S MY BACKYARD.
SO DO YOU LIVE ON, DO I DO? OKAY.
WELL I LIVE AT THE END OF RUST.
I'M SORRY, RUSTED WOOD AND LONG FOOT.
SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVERYTHING, SO, YEAH.
YEAH, THAT, THAT'S MY BACKYARD.
SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A FAN OF THAT TO BRING IN OTHER PEOPLE, SO.
UH, NO OTHER COMMENT FROM CITIZEN? NO.
WE'RE GOING TO OLD BUSINESS THEN.
THANK, I THINK AT THIS TIME WE ARE GOING TO, UH, SWAY IN THE NEW MEMBER OF THE BOARD, MR. ANDY HILL.
JUST STAND THERE AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
I, IN THE HILL, I IN THE HILL.
DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES TO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES? THE CONSTITUTIONAL, THE STATE OF OHIO, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF OHIO, THE CHARTER AND ALL ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, THE CHARTER AND ALL ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
AND THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY AND THAT I'LL GO FAITHFULLY, HONEST AND IMPARTIALLY HONESTLY AND IMPARTIALLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE.
DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.
SIGN, PRINT, AND THEN TITLE WOULD JUST BE OKAY AND WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO READ THAT.
I'M SUPPOSED TO READ THAT ONE.
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ALRIGHT, THANKS ANDY AND WELCOME ON BOARD.AND WE ARE GOING NOW WITH THE AGENDA ITEM ONE ON THE ITEM FIVE THERE, CITY UPDATE.
YEAH, SO JUST A COUPLE UPDATES.
UM, THE FIRST ONE BEING, UM, THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AT COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN, THE PAD HAS BEEN DONE, FENCE IS GOING UP.
UM, THEY WILL NOT BE PAINTED UNTIL MAY OF 2024.
AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE OF THE TEMPS OUTSIDE.
THEY DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, THE PAINT WON'T STAY.
SO THERE IS AN ADDENDUM ADDED TO THE CONTRACT THAT WILL COVER THAT WORK, UM, AT THE BEGINNING OF MAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COURTS ARE READY, GET THE NETS UP, THE STUFF THAT THAT IS NEEDED TO PLAY.
UM, BUT THE, THE MAJOR WORK IS, IS DONE, UH, ONCE THE FENCE GOES UP, WHICH I THINK THEY'RE WORKING ON THIS WEEK.
UM, PARKS MANAGER, UM, STILL IN PROCESS ON THE CONDITIONAL OFFER, UM, HOPEFULLY HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF OF WEEKS, UM, THAT PERSON, THAT INDIVIDUAL WILL BE IN PLACE, UH, AND HOPEFULLY AT OUR NOVEMBER MEETING.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, THAT'S REALLY ABOUT ALL THAT IS CURRENTLY GOING ON, UM, AT THIS TIME FROM THE CITY SIDE OF THINGS.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTION FOR CHRIS FOR A BOARD? SO MY LAST ONE WE SAID THE PERSON WOULD WANT CONDITION OFFER.
I, I THINK IT WAS, IT WAS CONTINGENT ON THE PSYCH EVAL AND THE BACKGROUND CHECK AND, AND THE STUFF THEY HAVE TO DO FOR ALL CITY EMPLOYEES.
NO, IT'S, IT'S, YEAH, NO, IT'S, IT'S ALL, IT'S THE THINGS THEY GOTTA DO AS A CITY GOVERNMENT, SO, OKAY.
IS THE Y M C A UPDATE CHRIS? YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT, UM, GOING ON THIS MONTH.
UM, YOU KNOW, UM, WITH IT BEING COLDER, UM, WE'VE GOT OUR TRUNK OR TREAT, UM, THIS SUNDAY UP AT THE Y UM, FROM SIX TO NINE IF, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME UP.
WE HAVE A PRETTY BIG ATTENDANCE FOR THAT.
UM, UM, REALLY OTHER THAN THAT, UM, NEXT MONTH, UM, I WILL HAVE THE NUMBERS FOR THE SHELTER AND COMMUNITY CENTER RENTALS, UM, SO THAT I'LL HAVE THOSE FINAL NUMBERS FOR YOU FOLKS ON, UH, OUR NOVEMBER MEETING.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL, UM, ALSO HAVE TO GO OVER THE USER GROUP AGREEMENT LIKE WE DO, LIKE WE'RE REQUIRED EVERY YEAR IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES WE WANNA MAKE OR NO CHANGES, SO THAT'LL BE AN AGENDA ITEM.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE DONE OUTSIDE WITH THE AQUATIC CENTER.
IT'S BEEN WINTERIZED AND, AND PUT TO BED FOR THE WINTER.
UM, WE DID SUBMIT FOR CAPITAL, UH, IMPROVEMENTS AT THE AQUATIC CENTER, UM, LIKE WE DID FOR THIS YEAR.
WE, WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT FOR NEXT YEAR, UM, DURING THE BUDGETING PROCESS OF THE CITY.
AND THEN, UM, THE ONLY THING LEFT TO DO IS, UH, I'M MEETING WITH A GENTLEMAN NEXT WEEK TO GET THE SPLASH PAD, UM, WINTERIZED DOWN AT TOM CLOUD PARK AND, AND PUT THE BED, UM, FOR THE, UM, FOR THE, UH, THE WINTER TIME.
WHAT TIME DID YOU SAY TIME CREEK WAS TODAY? SIX TO NINE, SIX? YEAH, UP AT Y UP AT THE Y IN THE MAIN PARKING LOT.
ALRIGHT, SO IT'S NORMALLY A PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD WELL ATTENDED EVENT.
AND I DO WANT TO GIVE, GO BACK TO CITY UPDATE REAL QUICK.
UM, ONE CITY UPDATE THAT I DID FORGET, UM, LAST, OR ACTUALLY EARLIER THIS MONTH, UM, MIKE GRAY AND I DID PRESENT TO COUNCIL DURING THE WORK SESSION ABOUT THE THOMAS CLOUD SPLASH PAD.
UM, WE PROVIDED THEM THE, THE THREE OPTIONS THAT, UM, I I GAVE YOU GUYS, UM, BACK IN SEPTEMBER.
ONE KIND OF A BANDAID TO GET US THROUGH ANOTHER SEASON WITH SOME MINOR UPDATES, UM, TO, UM, A HIRE A COMPANY WHO SPECIALIZES IN THAT AND, AND HOW TO, WHAT WOULD BE BEST FOR THE CITY TO BUILD AND, AND DEVELOP A NEW ONE.
UM, AND THEN THREE BASICALLY TEAR IT DOWN AND, AND START OVER FROM SCRATCH.
SO THOSE THREE OPTIONS WERE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL DURING THE WORK SESSION.
UM, SO THEY HAD ASKED FOR SOME, SOME MORE NUMBERS LIKE OPERATING COSTS AND STUFF FROM MIKE AND, AND PUBLIC WORKS.
SO HE WAS WORKING ON GETTING NUMBERS TO COUNCIL.
SO THAT PROCESS CONTINUES, UM, TO, UH, TO BE DISCUSSED AT COUNCIL LEVEL.
SO, SO WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING ON, YOU KNOW, FOR NEXT YEAR, UH, PROBABLY LOOKING TO DO SOME BANDAID STUFF AND, AND YOU KNOW, THAT WAY WE'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT RUSHED TO MAKE A DECISION AND, AND MAKE WHAT'S THE BEST DECISION FOR THE CITY.
SO JUST, I FORGOT ABOUT THAT ONE FROM SIX, FROM FIVE ONE, SO, OKAY.
NOW WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE, UH, PICKLEBALL COURSE DURING CHRIS, UH, EARLIER COMMENTS, BUT DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON THEN.
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DID YOU WANNA GO OVER THE, THE WHAT I PUT IN THE STUFF? OKAY, LET'S GO BACK TO THE PICKLEBALL COURT POLICIES.WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THERE, IT SHOULD BE AN ITEM IN YOUR, UH, PACKAGE.
WE WERE TRYING TO LAY OUT SOME POLICIES OF HOW WE WANTED TO, UM, I'D LIKE TO, I DON'T LIKE TO USE THE TERM MANAGE THE COURTS, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT WE THINK IF WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING POSTED, THE FIRST PERSON TO GET TO THE PARK SETS THE RULES.
AND SO UNLESS WE HAVE SOMETHING THERE AS TO HOW WE LIKE TO SEE THINGS FLOW, IT COULD END UP BEING CHAOTIC.
ONE WEEK YOU'RE PLAYING IT THIS WAY, NEXT WEEK YOU DECIDE WHOEVER COMES IN GETS IN LINE.
SO WE WANT TO POST SOME RULES THERE.
AND THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A ONE SHEET IN YOUR PAPER THERE CALLED RULES AND ROTATION POLICY FOR THE COURT.
AND NOW AS IT SAID THERE, THESE RULES ARE TO PROVIDE EQUAL AND FAIR OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL PLAYERS TO PARTICIPATE AT COMMUNITY PARK.
UM, ONE IS THERE'LL BE NO SINGLES PLAY PRIVATE PARTIES PRACTICE OR INSTRUCTION WHEN PEOPLE ARE WAITING IN LINE TO PLAY.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN'T COME OUT THERE WITH YOUR FRIENDS OR CHARGE IT A FEE OR WHATEVER AND START GIVING LESSON WHEN PEOPLE ARE WAITING IN PLAY.
THE OTHER ITEM IN THERE WAS WE WANTED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOU ARE USING THE COURT AT YOUR OWN WRIST IF YOU GET HURT, WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU FOR YOUR INJURIES OR WHATEVER YOU AT YOUR OWN WRIST.
WE ALSO WANT TO HAVE A CUING SYSTEM FOR THOSE WHO PLAY TENNIS.
IT USED TO BE AT CLOUD PARK BACK IN THE EIGHTIES, THERE WERE HOOKS ON THE FENCE AND YOU CAME IN, YOU PLACED YOUR HOOKS AND YOUR PALLETS ON THE HOW MANY PALLET, I'M SORRY, YOUR RACKETS ON THE HOOKS AND YOU PLAYED IN THAT ORDER.
WHAT MOST PEOPLE DO ON PICKLEBALL COURTS IS MOST TIME YOU'RE PLAYING DOUBLES, IF THEY STACK PALLETS OR THEY PUT 'EM IN IN CUBBY HOLES AND YOU LINE 'EM UP FOUR IN A GROUP OF FOURS AND YOU PLAY THAT WAY, THIS POLICY SEEMED TO WORK WELL BECAUSE IT ALLOWED THE PEOPLE TO PLAY WITH THE GROUP THEY WANT TO PLAY IN.
AND IT DOESN'T FORCE YOU TO PLAY OUT OF ORDER.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF FOUR PEOPLE COME TO THE COURT TO PLAY AS A GROUP, THOSE FOUR CAN PLAY, BUT THEY CANNOT JUMP THE ORDER.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR THEIR TIME WHEN THEY CAN GET A COURT.
THIS IS A WAY WE THINK OF TRYING TO CONTROL IT AND SORT OF ORGANIZE SO YOU DON'T HAVE CHAOS.
WHAT WE MEAN THERE, WE ALSO WANT TO LIMIT THE PLAY TIME TO TWO GAMES.
IF PEOPLE START WAITING, I KNOW MOST TIMES PEOPLE PLAY A MATCH BEING TWO OUT OF THREE, BUT WE GONNA HAVE TO LIMIT THAT SO EVERYBODY CAN GET SOME COURT TIME.
PRIVATE GROUPS MAY PLAY TOGETHER IF THE GROUP IS NEXT IN THE QUEUE, I JUST EXPLAINED EARLIER, THEY CAN STICK TOGETHER AND PLAY TOGETHER, BUT THEY CANNOT BREAK THE LINE OBVIOUS.
WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE BICYCLE SKATEBOARDS OR BIKES ON THE, UH, ON THE COURT.
WE WANT ALSO NO GLASS CONTAINERS THAT WILL RUIN EVERYBODY.
THEY TRYING TO GET UP ROOM AND CLEAN UP.
NO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE OR PETS DOGS ON A PICKLEBALL COURT IS A DISASTER.
UM, WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO WEAR ATHLETIC OR COURT SHOES.
THOSE STREET SHOES, ONCE AGAIN, THAT IS DAMAGING TO THE PAINT, NOT JUST YOUR YOUR ANKLES AND EVERYTHING, BUT THAT CAN DAMAGE THE PAINT JOB.
DON'T WANNA ABUSE THE EQUIPMENT, THE THAT, THAT IS.
AND UM, WHEN YOU'RE STACKING PALLET, WE DON'T WANT ANYONE TO START TRYING TO DECIDE WHO THEY WANT TO PLAY WITH AND MOVING PEOPLE OUT OF THE CUING SYSTEM.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN ONLY MOVE OR ROTATE YOUR PALLET.
AND THE LAST ONE IS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE GOING TO PLAY PICKLEBALL BEFORE 8:00 AM BECAUSE THERE'S SOME RESIDENTS THAT LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THAT LITTLE STREET THERE FROM THE COURTS.
AND WE THINK IF WE START BEFORE EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, THAT COULD CAUSE A PROBLEMS AND WE DON'T WANNA BE DEALING WITH THAT EVERY TIME WE COME TO A A BOARD MEETING HERE.
UH, SO THAT WAS BASICALLY A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE WERE GOING TO TRY, YOU KNOW, AND GET POSTED DOWN THERE AT THE UH, PARK.
NOW ALSO IN YOUR PACKAGE WE HAD RECEIVED SOME SUGGESTION FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TO SOME OF THE OTHER COURTS IN THE AREA.
PRIMARY HEALTHY PARK IS OVER IN VANDALIA.
IT IS, UH, BEHIND THE REC CENTER, BUT IT'S ON, UH, OFF OF HEALTHY DRIVE THERE.
UM, THESE ARE A LITTLE MORE DETAILED AND WHEN I WAS DISCUSSING THIS
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WITH SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE NOT ON THE BOARD, BUT CITIZENS WHO PLAY PICKLEBALL, SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT THESE MAY BE A LITTLE TOO DETAILED AND MIGHT CALL CONFUSION.SO I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO DO, DO WE WANT TO DISCUSS THESE NOW AS A BOARD WHILE WE ARE SITTING HERE? OR DO YOU WANT TO, SO GO AHEAD.
THIS THE FIRST ONE THAT YOU WERE READING OFF.
UM, THIS I'M ASSUMING IS WHAT WAS PUT TOGETHER TO GO TO COMMUNITY PARK, RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S THE IDEA.
THIS WILL BE POSTED AT THE PARK SO EVERYONE COMES IN WILL BE ABLE TO REVIEW IT AND KNOW WHAT THE POLICIES ARE.
AND THE LI ARE WHAT ARE CURRENTLY THE PARK, THE HEALTHY PARK.
YEAH, I I I YOU DEFINITELY, I SEE A LOT OF SIMILARITIES.
I DON'T THINK PICKLE FOOTBALL SO RIGHT.
I MEAN HONESTLY I DON'T FIND WHAT'S HERE OVERLY CONFUSING.
UM, HOW KNOW DOES IT TYPICALLY TAKE IF YOU HAVE TWO GOOD TEAMS JUST AT A BETTER TEAM, A GAME COULD LAST 20 MINUTES.
NOW USUALLY, UM, USUALLY YOU TAKE, YOU PLAY ONE GAME, RIGHT? YOU ROTATE.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT LETTING THEM PLAY TWO GAMES, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEN, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT SAY, WELL THIS IS ONLY OUR SECOND GAME AND IT'S THEIR THIRD GAME ON 40.
BUT I THINK ONE GAME AND THEY SHOULD BE OFF IN THE NEXT WEEK.
WELL, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA THEN.
I'M SAYING IF YOU WANT TO GO THAT ROUTE, I THINK WE OUGHT AGREE RIGHT HERE TO DO IT BECAUSE UH, THAT'S THE WAY THE OTHER COURTS DUKE, RIGHT?
I LIKE THE ONE MOVE THEY HAVE HERE THAT IF YOU WERE WINNERS, LIKE I DON'T UNDERSTAND IF I WON THE GAME I JUST PLAYED WHILE I NEED TO LEAVE, I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE THE THREE GAME MAXS FOR THE WINNERS.
WELL THERE IS A, WHAT THEY CALL A CHALLENGE COURT.
SO MAYBE YOU SET ONE COURT UP AT THE CHALLENGE COURT AND IF THE, IF THE TWO PEOPLE ON THAT COURT WIN, THEY GET TO STAY ONE MORE GAME AND THE OTHER TWO PEOPLE COMING ON CHALLENGE AND IF THEY DON'T WIN, EITHER WIN OR LOSE THE TEAM THAT WON TWICE HAS TO GO OFF.
AND THEY CALL THAT A CHALLENGE COURT AND THEY USUALLY A PLACE DESIGNATE ONE COURT FOR A CHILD IN COURT.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE ONLY HAVE SIX COURTS.
SO WHAT IS DONE, YOU SAID THAT ONE COURT, WHICH WILL USUALLY BE USED BY THE MORE ADVANCED PLAYERS, THAT'S THE DRAWBACK TO THAT CONCEPT, TRYING TO BE FAIR ABOUT IT AND EVERYTHING, UM, BECAUSE UH, YEAH, THE BETTER PLAYERS GOING TO GET IN LINE TO PLAY ON THAT COURT.
BUT THE OTHER FIVE COURTS NOW, LIKE I SAY, UH, THAT'S WHERE THE, UH, THE NOVELIST PLAY AND THE UH, SOME OF THE ADVANCED PLAYERS.
SO, UH, THAT'S THE ONLY PROBLEM I SEE WITH THIS CHALLENGE COURT IS IT GOT SIX COURTS, BUT I'M SETTING THOUGHT ONE THAT WILL BE USED PRIMARILY BY THE ADVANCED PLAYOFFS.
WELL THAT'S WHAT THAT, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO I THINK AT
IS THAT RIGHT? 1, 2, 5 AND SIX ARE DESIGNED FOR BEGINNERS TO INTERMEDIATE, RIGHT.
AND THEN 3, 4, 7 AND EIGHT ARE DESIGNATED FOR INTERMEDIATE TO ADVANCE WITH COURT FOUR BEING DESIGNATED THE CHALLENGE.
RIGHT? SO YOU COULD GO ONE, TWO, AND SIX FOR BEGINNERS TO INTERMEDIATE AND THEN TWO, THREE AND FIVE FOR ADVANCE WITH MAYBE COURT FOUR BEING THE, THE CHALLENGE COURT, IF THAT'S THE ROUTE THAT YOU WANTED TO GO.
AND THEN YOU'RE NOT DESIGNATED JUST A COURT FOR CHALLENGE IT, IT COULD STILL BE USED IF THE, YOU KNOW.
YEAH, I I THINK WE COULD TAKE WHAT, WHAT YOU HAVE, WHAT YOU TYPED UP ALEX AND I THINK WE CAN KIND OF MESH IT TOGETHER WITH, WITH KY.
UM, I, I TALKED TO, TO JEFF I BELIEVE FROM
UH, AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, NO RULES ARE GOING TO BE PERFECT.
HE GOES, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE FOUND TO WORK THE BEST AND ESPECIALLY THE OVERCROWDING PROCESS RIGHT.
HAS HAS HELPED OUT A LOT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A VERY POPULAR PLACE BECAUSE IT IS, IT DOES HAVE LIGHTS AND IT IS OPEN LATE, UM, WHERE, YOU KNOW, OUR PARKS HERE IN HUBER ARE SUN UP TO SUNDOWN FOR, FOR HOURS OF OPERATION.
UM, BUT UH, I THINK WE COULD KIND OF MARRY, 'CAUSE A LOT OF THE, THE GUIDELINES, A LOT OF HAVE WHAT YOU HAVE IN IT.
AND I THINK WE COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE GENERAL, LIKE CITY OF VANDALIA PARK RULES IN ORDINANCE ARE TO BE ADHERED TO, YOU KNOW, THAT COVERS SOME OF THE STUFF LIKE OUR,
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OUR GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR PARKS IN GENERAL, RIGHT.SO, UM, I CAN WORK ON KIND OF MESHING 'EM TOGETHER AND, AND THEN WE COULD HAVE A A, A FINAL DISCUSSION IN NOVEMBER ALRIGHT, AT A NOVEMBER MEETING AND OKAY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD.
BUT I THINK THE, WHAT JEFF'S BIG THING WAS IS NOTHING IS GOING TO BE PERFECT NO MATTER HOW HARD WE TRY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL GONNA BE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE UPSET AND PEOPLE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND.
BUT HE, HE SAID THAT THEY HAVE FOUND THIS TO BE THE BEST GUIDELINES AND PROCESS WHEN THEY'RE BUSY TO GO BY.
YEAH, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE RACKS ON EVERY COURT.
SO IF YOU GO IN THERE AND YOU AS A SINGLE AND YOU SEE SOMEONE YOU KNOW OVER HERE, YOU WANT TO PLAY WITH HIM, YOU GO OVER TO THAT COURT, PUT YOUR IN THE SADDLE.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT AS WE GET TO THE SPRING AND THE COURTS GET DONE, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOME SADDLES TO PUT DOWN THERE ON THE, ON THE FENCE LINE.
SO PEOPLE, YEAH, THEY GOT, THEY GOT, I SEEN THE ONES THAT HELP, THEY GOT A NICE ONE, BUT AT LEAST WE COULD HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT OUR GUIDELINES AND PROCESSES ARE GONNA BE BEFORE WE GET TO NEXT YEAR.
AND MIKE AND HIS GROUP AT PUBLIC WORKS GET THE SIGNS CREATED SO THAT THEY'RE DONE OKAY IN ADVANCE AND, AND AS LONG AS THIS GROUP IS GOOD WITH WHAT'S TYPED UP AND VOTES TO APPROVE IT, THEN YOU KNOW, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
BUT I THINK BOTH DOCUMENTS PROVIDE US WITH A GOOD STARTING POINT.
BUT I DO THINK WE DO NEED TO HAVE LIKE THEY DO FOR OVERCROWDING.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE AT THE Y OH YEAH.
YOU KNOW HOW HOW CRAZY IT CAN GET WITH PEOPLE TRYING TO WAIT AND PLAY.
I THINK WE DO NEED TO HAVE A PROCESS WHEN IT IS, WHEN IT IS BUSY SO PEOPLE CAN TRY TO GET THE MOST OUT OF IT.
THERE SHOULD DEFINITELY BE A DE DECIDED UPON PROCESS FOR THOSE OVERCOMING SO THAT WAY THERE'S NO ARGUMENT AMONG THE PLAYERS.
AND YOU CAN REFER TO THIS AS WELL, THIS IS THE PARK RIGHT LANE.
ALRIGHT THEN WHY DON'T WE TAKE THOSE TWO ITEMS THEN AND WHY DON'T WE TAKE THOSE TWO ITEMS, REVIEW IT AND WE WILL DISCUSS ANY MORE DETAILS THEN AT OUR NOVEMBER MEETING.
OKAY, NOW WE'RE GOING TO THE NEW BUSINESS ITEM THERE AND THE NUMBER ONE ITEM THERE IS THE ONE WE WANT TO FOCUS ON TONIGHT AND THAT IS OUR PRIORITY LIST UPDATE.
THIS IS A LIST THAT WE WAS PUTTING TOGETHER FOR THE CITY, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS UH, FOR 2024.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE DON'T MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON.
THOSE ARE THE, UM, MAINTENANCE ISSUES BECAUSE THAT'S USUALLY HANDLED BY THE UH, PUBLIC WORK DEPARTMENT AND OTHER PEOPLE.
ALL WE ARE LOOKING AT IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO SPEND MONEY ON NEW ITEMS THAT WERE NOT A ROUTINE OR REOCCURRING ISSUES.
WE SENT OUT A LIST THERE OF THE TOP 10 OR 11 ITEMS THAT WE HAD COMING INTO THIS MEETING AND WE HAD EVERY ASKED EVERYONE TO RATE THOSE ONE THROUGH FIVE, THE TOP FIVE BECAUSE WE FOUND OUT THAT IF WE GIVE 'EM 10 ITEM ONE THROUGH 10, YOU ONLY GET TWO OR THREE DONE ANYWAY.
SO WE TRY TO FOCUS ON THE ONE WE THOUGHT WE WANTED TO FOCUS ON FOR 2024.
I THINK I GOT FIVE COMMENTS BACK AND OF THE FIVE THAT WE GOT BACK, THE ORDER THAT CAME OUT WAS NUMBER ONE ITEM WAS ADDING SWINGS AT COMMUNITY CENTER.
NOW THAT ALL CONFUSE COMMUNITY CENTER WITH COMMUNITY PARK.
COMMUNITY CENTER IS DOWN ON POWELL AND COMMUNITY PARK, OF COURSE CRAWFORD, WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL THERE ON CHAMBERSBURG.
BUT THE NUMBER ONE ITEM WAS TO ADD SWINGS DOWN AT COMMUNITY CENTER.
THE NUMBER TWO ITEM ON THE LIST WAS A STAND, THE PARKING AT COMMUNITY PARK.
NOW THE REASON FOR THAT BEING EXTENDING BECAUSE YOU PUT IN PICKLEBALL COURTS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF CARS COMING IN THERE TO PARK AND MOST PEOPLE COME TO PLAY.
PICKLEBALL DON'T COME AS HUSBAND AND WIFE.
EVERYONE SHOWS UP DRIVING A CAR AND IF YOU GOT 24 PEOPLE ON THE COURTS PLAYING, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 24 CARS PARKED SOMEWHERE THERE ON THE GRASS ON THE BACKSIDE OF YOUR PARK.
SO THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT CAME IN.
NUMBER TWO, THE THIRD ITEM ON THE LIST WAS AT BASKETBALL COURTS AT THE HUBER HEIGHTS Y M C A.
NOW A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THAT WAS WE DETERMINED ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO THAT THERE WERE NO BASKETBALL COURTS OUTSIDE, I SHOULD SAY NORTH OF OUR SEVENTH, BUT YET ALL THE GROWTH IS NORTH OF OUR 70 UP AT CARRIAGES TRAIL.
SO ALL THE KIDS DURING THE SUMMER SHOW UP AT THE Y AT NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING BOUNCING THE BASKETBALL, BUT THE Y IS OCCUPIED FROM NINE TO TWO, USUALLY BY THE OLDER
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THEIR SENIORS KIDS ARE IN SCHOOL ALL YEAR.NOW THE SENIORS HAVE THEIR PROGRAM GOING SO YOU HAVE NO PLACE FOR THE CHILDREN AND THEY ARE STANDING THERE BOUNCING THE BALL ALL DAY.
SO WE THOUGHT THAT PUTTING UH, BASKETBALL COURTS OUTSIDE WOULD BE THE WAY TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
OUR INITIAL, OUR CHOICE WAS TO LOOK AT SHAW GATE DOWN HERE ON UM, ON ON SHORE ROAD, BUT IT'S A LITTLE FURTHER WEST OF THE WIRE.
AFTER DISCUSSION, THE BOARD CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THE WIRE WAS A BETTER SPOT BECAUSE ONE IS YOU HAVE RESTROOMS THERE, THE CHILDREN OF THEIR PLAN.
AND THE OTHER REASON IS THAT IF THERE'S AN INCIDENT BACK THERE, YOU HAVE STAFF AT THE Y WHO CAN RESOLVE THE ISSUE AND TAKE ACTION WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE.
IF THERE'S AN INCIDENT DOWN AT CHERYL GATE, ALL WE GET IS WHAT THEY TELL US.
SO EVERYBODY DECIDED THAT WAS THE BETTER LOCATION FOR THAT WAS TO PUT THE BASKETBALL COURTS OUTSIDE BACK BY THE AQUATIC CENTER AND THE AMPHITHEATER, IT'LL BE IN THAT GENERAL AREA BACK THERE.
THAT CAME AS A THIRD ITEM ON THE LIST.
UH, THE FOURTH ITEM ON THE LIST WAS THE RESTROOMS AT COMMUNITY PARK.
NOW IF YOU KNOW, THERE USED TO BE RESTROOMS THERE UNTIL SOMEONE VANDALIZED 'EM AND EVERYTHING.
AND THE FIFTH ITEM ON THAT LIST WAS AT BENCHES AND TABLES AT COMMUNITY PARK NEAR THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.
NOW ONE ITEM GOT A TOP RATED ON, THERE WAS A SWINGS AT EICHENBERG BUT IT WAS ONLY ONE INDIVIDUAL GAVE IT A LOW RATING.
THAT'S WHY THAT ONE DID NOT GET JUST A INCLUDED IN THE TOP FIVE BECAUSE ONE PERSON THOUGHT IT SHOULD BE INCLUDED.
SO THE TOP FIVE ONCE AGAIN WAS ADD SWINGS AT COMMUNITY CENTER, EXTENDED PARKING AT COMMUNITY PARK, AT BASKETBALL COURTS, AT THE HUBER HEIGHTS, Y RESTROOMS AT COMMUNITY PARK AND AT BENCHES AND TABLES AT COMMUNITY PARK NEAR THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.
THAT WE WANNA DISCUSS THOSE BEFORE WE UH, MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNSELOR.
COULD YOU PUT THE SWINGS AT EICHELBERGER AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER TOGETHER AS ONE ITEM? WELL, I DON'T SEE THE REASON WHY NOT.
IT WOULD BE EASY TO BE ABLE TO JUST ADD THAT IN.
UM, IN THE ION HAD THE SAME CONTRACT DO BOTH.
SO WE MAKE THAT ITEM NUMBER ONE THEN BECAUSE THE OTHER ONE WAS ONE AND THAT ONE ALSO HAD A HIGH RATING.
THEN AT THE SWINGS AT BERG AND COMMUNITY CENTER, THAT'S ONE, ONE ITEM.
IF WE DID THAT THEN THE FIFTH ITEM ON THE LIST THEN WOULD BE EITHER THE UM, SAFETY BORROWERS AT PUMP TRACK THREE.
NOW WHEN YOU SAY PUMP TRACK THREE, THOSE ARE THE UH, THE FACILITY DOWN THERE BEHIND ON UH, FISHBURG, BONITA, BONITA PARK, THAT'S WHERE THAT WOULD BE LOCATED.
DOWN THERE WHERE YOU HAVE THE UH, SPEED AND TRACK.
THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE NUMBER FIVE ON THE LIST.
THEN HOW DO YOU EXTEND PARKING AND COMMUNITY? WELL, GOOD QUESTION.
I THINK THE ONLY WAY THEY GONNA PROBABLY HAVE TO DO THAT IS WHERE YOU HAVE THE PARKING SPOTS THERE IN FRONT OF THE PLAYGROUND AND THE BASKETBALL COURTS.
YOU HAVE TO EITHER EXTEND THAT OR YOU HAVE TO PUT IT OVER BY THE ENTRANCEWAY WHERE THE RESTROOM USED TO BE.
UH, NOW I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THERE AND TELL THEM HOW TO DO IT, BUT WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, I SEE THOSE ARE BEING THE BEST TWO OPTIONS TO EXTEND IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PICKLEBALL COURT AND THE BASKETBALL COURT THERE AND THE RESTROOMS. WHERE WOULD THEY BE? I WOULD ASSUME THEY WOULD BE WHERE THEY WERE ORIGINALLY BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THE INFRASTRUCTURE MAY ALREADY BE THERE FOR THE DRAINS SUIT AND SO FORTH.
I HAVE TO ASSUME THAT THAT'S VERY CLOSE TO WHERE THEY WERE BEFORE.
SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD'VE PUT THEM RATHER THAN PUT IT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, THE PICKLEBALL COURTS WHERE YOU GOTTA RUN THE INFRASTRUCTURE, IT'D BE CHEAPER TO PUT IT BACK IN THE SAME PLACE.
YEAH, YOU ALSO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO PUT IT IN THE FISCAL AREA TOO.
SO I'LL ASSUME THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD BE.
SO I WILL SUMMARIZE THAT THEN.
ONCE AGAIN, ADDING SWINGS AT COMMUNITY CENTER IN EICHENBERGER EXTENDED PARK AT COMMUNITY PARK BASKETBALL COURTS AT HUBER HEIGHTS, Y RESTROOM AT
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COMMUNITY PARK AND AT ADVENTURES AND TABLES AT THE PICKLEBALL COURT AT COMMUNITY PARK WILL BE THE TOP FIVE ITEMS. ANY COMMENT BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY, LET'S VOTE ON THAT.DO I NEED TO HAVE A, OKAY, UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO UH, ACCEPT THOSE FIVE ITEMS? MOTION.
ALRIGHT, JUSTIN SECOND THEN MOVED.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THOSE WILL BE THE FIVE ITEMS WE WILL SUBMIT TO THE CITY THEN.
OKAY, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE LIST THERE IS THE, UH, COUNCIL WORK SECTION THAT WE ARE GONNA BE PRESENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL NEXT MONTH, EVERY THREE MONTHS DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMISSION IN THE CITY.
MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND WHEN OUR TIME COMES AROUND NEXT MONTH, NOVEMBER THE EIGHTH, WHAT I WANT TO WALK THROUGH RIGHT NOW, THERE SHOULD BE A PACKAGE IN YOUR FOLDER THERE.
I WAS TRYING TO KEEP IT DOWN TO ABOUT FIVE OR SIX SHEETS.
AND THE REASON BEING I DIDN'T WANT TO BE MORE THAN 10 MINUTES.
SO THE FIRST SHEET I HAVE ON THE FIRST PAGE THERE, WE HAVE A, UH, OPEN REMARKS AND EVERYTHING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO TELL HIM WHAT OUR MISSION IS, WHAT WE SEE OUR MISSIONS BEING, WHAT OUR GOALS ARE.
WE'RE GONNA EXPLAIN WHAT WE ACCOMPLISHED IN 2023, HOW WE WENT ABOUT DETERMINING WHAT OUR, UH, PRIORITY LIST WAS AND THE GENERAL CONCLUSION OF WHAT WE THINK THE CONDITION OF THE PARKS AND EVERYTHING IS IN HUBBERT HEIGHTS.
THE SECOND PAGE OF THAT HIGHLIGHTS WHAT PARKS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES WE HAVE IN HUBBERT BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLES, SOME MANY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS INCLUDED MAY NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHERE ALL THE PARKS ARE OR WHAT THEY ARE JUST TO UPDATE THEM ON WHAT THEY ARE.
NOW I HAVE ON THERE DO AND COMMUNITY CENTER HIGHLIGHTED BECAUSE DO IS NOT A PARK YET.
WELL IT DEFINITELY IS A PARK, BUT THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
SO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW THAT'S IN THE WORKS.
THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WE HAD SOME, UH, RENOVATION GOING ON THERE AND UM, BUT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TO THEM THAT THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE, UH, REC FACILITY WE HAVE IN HUBER HEIGHTS.
ACCOMPLISH ACTIVITIES IN 2023.
THE IDEA WAS TO TRY AND UPDATE OR WHAT WE DID IN HUBER HEIGHTS, WHETHER IT WAS AT THE Y UH, CLOUD PARK, ANY ACTIVITY THAT WE DID FOR THE CITIZEN WAS GOING TO BE HIGHLIGHTED HERE.
NOW, ONE I DON'T HAVE ON HERE, CHRIS, IS THE, UM, TRICK OR TREAT TRICK NO TRUNK OR TREAT.
SHOULD WE INCLUDE THAT? THAT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO.
AND I WOULD TAKE OUT THE REMOVED AND REPLACE SPLASH PADDOCK CLOUD PARK.
DID YOU ADD THE KIDS' TRIATHLON? UH, AT THE AQUATIC CENTER.
ONE WE'RE GONNA ADD ALSO IS THE, UH, KID TRIATHLON.
HUH? THAT 300 KIDS PARTICIPATED.
THE AQUATIC CENTER SERVED OVER 30, 35,000 OVER 30.
WE UPDATED THAT CHART THAT THE AQUATIC CENTER GONNA BE SERVING 35,000 PEOPLES AND THE KID TRIATHLON.
WE HAD 300 PLUS KIDS SHOW UP THERE.
WHAT I WANT TO ALSO ADD IN THERE WAS THE, UH, FOR THE DISCUSSION WAS THE, UH, TRUCK OR TREAT EVENT THAT WE DO THERE AT THE, UH, AT THE Y A LITTLE LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THAT.
WHAT ELSE? REALLY DIDN'T HAVE THE KIDS COME BY YOUR HOUSE RINGING YOUR DOORBELL EVERY FIVE MINUTES.
THIS WAS, THEY SHOW UP, IT WAS THE CAR WITH A BAG OF CANDY OR BOX OF CANDY IN THE BACK AND THE KIDS COME BY AND GET CANDY FROM YOUR CAR.
AND THAT'S BEEN DONE AT THE WHILE.
I KNOW FOR THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS OR LONGER.
SO I THINK WE OUGHT INCLUDE THAT ON THERE ALSO AT THE TRUNK OR TREAT AT THE WIRE.
I'VE FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT UNTIL CHRIS MENTIONED A FEW MINUTES AGO HERE ABOUT HAVING THAT ONE END OF THE MONTH.
SO BE A FAVOR ADDING THAT ONE.
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OH YEAH, I'M OKAY.UM, THE TRUNK OR TREAT THAT'S BEING PUT ON BY THE Y YOU SAID LATER IN THE MONTH MM-HMM.
UM, SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT SHE DID, UM, ON THAT SUNDAY.
SO, YEAH, BECAUSE I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT VERY LATE AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, WHO, WHO'S PUTTING THIS ON? AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE A REALLY BIG EVENT, SO I YEAH.
AND I, I HADN'T ONLY HEARD ABOUT IT, WHAT, A COUPLE DAYS BEFORE OR SOMETHING.
I WANNA ADD THOSE TWO ITEMS THEN TO THE ACTIVITY THAT WE ACCOMPLISHED IN 2023.
THE KIDS TRIATHLON AND THE TRUNK OR TREAT AT THE Y.
ANY COMMENTS ON ANY OF THOSE ITEMS ON THAT LIST AND THAT WE, WE'LL REMOVE THE ONE ABOUT REPLACE THE SPLASH PAD AT CLOUD PARK.
I THINK FOR THE BOARD AND FOR CHRIS IN PARTICULAR, UM, THE BAT BOXES THAT WE HAD INSTALLED, UM, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY THERE WERE? 10 OR 12 I BELIEVE.
UM, THEY ARE UH, AT THE AMPHITHEATER RIGHT NOW.
SO THEY HAVE NOT BEEN INSTALLED BUT THEY ARE COMPLETED.
UM, 'CAUSE THEY'RE IN THE CLOSET UNDERNEATH OR ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE AMPHITHEATER.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT ARE THE ACCOMPLISHED ACTIVITIES? OKAY, WE GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM THERE AND THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR 2024.
UM, I'LL READ THROUGH 'EM RIGHT QUICK.
WE MENTIONED THE OUTDOOR BASKETBALL COURTS INSTALLED IN RESTROOM IN COMMUNITY PARK, ADDING PARKING SPACE AT COMMUNITY PARK INSTALLED IN SWING THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND EICHENBERGER ADDING BENCHES AND TABLES AT PICKLEBALL COURTS AND AMPHITHEATER.
NOW THAT AMPHITHEATER WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT ALSO, BUT SOMEONE HAS SUGGESTED THAT WE ADD UM, TABLES AND BENCHES THERE BECAUSE WHEN THE PARENTS COME WITH CHILDREN, SOMETIMES THEY WANT TO SIT OFF FROM THE REST OF THE GROUP BECAUSE KIDS BEING KIDS AND SOMEONE THOUGHT WE SHOULD ADD TABLES AND BENCHES THERE FOR THAT PURPOSE.
SO MAYBE I SHOULDN'T HAVE PUT THOSE TWO TOGETHER.
THE OTHER ITEM WE ARE RECOMMENDING FOR 2024 IS THE UH, EARTH DAY.
NOW, UM, WHAT'S THE NAME WILL USUALLY TOOK CARE OF THAT? UM, BLAKE.
BLAKE EICHENBERGER USUALLY HANDLE THAT FOR US.
SO I'M GONNA, WE GONNA RECOMMEND THAT WE CONTINUE WITH THAT THE FAMILY FALL FEST.
I WANT TO SUGGEST LEAVE THAT IN.
AND ALSO NOW WE WANT TO HOST AT LEAST ONE PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT IN THE SPRING OR SUMMER OF THE 2024 AND TRY TO MAKE THAT AN ANNUAL EVENT EVERY YEAR.
HAVE THIS EVENT AT AT COMMUNITY PARK.
NOW I PUT SPRING IN SUMMER, DIDN'T REALIZE THAT.
MAYBE SUMMERTIME BEFORE WE COULD HOLD THAT.
BUT UH, WE WANT TO DO AT LEAST ONE PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT THERE.
WE WANTED TO CONTINUE TO MUSICFEST SERIES BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THERE WERE NINE EVENTS THIS PAST YEAR AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT EVENT.
UH, WE WANTED TO ALSO LOOK AT WALKING PAST AT ALL PARKS THAT CAME IN FROM ONE OF THE CITIZENS I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND THROUGH ONE OF THE MEMBERS ON THE BOARD THEY BROUGHT IT IN AS SOMEONE HAD SUGGESTED THAT TO THEM AND UM, NEED MORE PASS AROUND ALL THE PARKS THAT FOR WALKING PAID IT PASS.
THEY WEREN'T PAID WALKING PASS.
NOW THE OTHER ITEM THERE WAS TO INSTALL DOG WASTE CONTAINERS AT ALL PARKS SHOULDN'T BE IN A REALLY EXPENSIVE ITEM BUT SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO BE LOOKED AT.
AND THE LAST ITEM ON THE LIST WAS TO ADD SHADE TREES AT THE DOG PARK.
CAN THE BOARD OR ANY OF THE CITIZEN THINK OF ANY OTHER ACTIVITY THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS TO THAT LIST? ARE WE GONNA CONTINUE THE MOVIE NINTH?
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YEAH, THAT'S UH, ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION AND OH US TOGETHER.IS THAT A JOINT ION? I BELIEVE THAT'S A JOINT.
GOOD QUESTION OVER THERE JUSTIN.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM? THE NEXT PAGE THERE IS THE PRIORITIZATION PROCESS.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE GOING TO TELL THEM HOW WE NARROW IT DOWN TO THOSE TOP FIVE ITEMS. BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT, WE HAVE A UM, THE CITY, WHEN I SAY WE HAVE A POCKET RECREATIONAL MASTER PLAN THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER BACK AROUND 2018 I THINK IT WAS.
AND IN THAT PLAN IT TELLS YOU THAT THAT THE TREND THEY SEE AS THE POPULATION GROWS AND ALSO WHAT ACTIVITIES ARE ARE POPULAR IN THIS AREA, MIDWEST AND THIS CITY SOUTH OF DAYTON.
SO USING THAT IT GAVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND PICKLEBALL WAS ONE OF THE TOP THREE NATIONWIDE.
SO THAT FALLS IN LINE WITH WHERE WE'RE GOING.
WE ALSO TOOK SUGGESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE CAME IN UH, VIA EMAIL OR PEOPLE JUST TALKING TO YOU IN PUBLIC CARE.
WHEN YOU MEET 'EM THEY'RE TELLING YOU WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE.
AND WE HAVE ALSO REALIZED WE GOTTA BALANCE THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE CURRENT ASSETS AND DEVELOP A NEW FACILITY.
I HEARD FROM ONE SATURDAY NIGHT TO PUT ALL YOUR MONEY INTO NEW FACILITIES IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE ONES YOU CURRENTLY HAVE.
NOW WE DON'T GET A LOT OF INPUT INTO THE BUDGET.
WE DON'T SEE THE BUDGET BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE KNOW THERE'S A BUDGET THERE AND WE WANT TO TRY SAFELY.
NOW WE WANT TO DEFINITELY YOUR INPUTS ON BECAUSE HERE WE ARE TELLING THEM WHAT WE THINK ARE THE PARK IN HUBER HEIGHTS.
I GOT THE IMPRESSION TALKING TO THE PEOPLE THAT MOST OF THE PARKS IN HUBER HEIGHTS ARE IN GOOD OR EXTRA CONDITION.
I KNOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM AT COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE RESTROOMS, BUT OTHERWISE THERE ARE NO REAL PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH THAT PARK.
NOW THE ONES THAT ARE IN FAIR CONDITION, THE COMMENTS THERE, THEY WERE LARGELY DUE TO UM, NOT HAVING SWINGS OR ACTIVITIES FOR THE KIDS WITH A D A LIMITATIONS.
BECAUSE MOST OF THE PARKS, ESPECIALLY ONE OVER THERE, MIAMI VILLA, EVEN UM, THE ONE HERE AT SHELL GATE, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE ACCESS FOR CHILDREN THOUGH WITH A DISABILITY.
SO I THINK THAT'S THE REASON SOME OF THE PARK HAVE A FAIR RATING I GUESS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE GOTTA LOOK AT RESOLVING THAT PROBLEM.
AND THE OTHER THING IS THERE WE DON'T, WE HAVE VERY FEW ACTIVITIES FOR CHILDREN LESS THAN THREE YEARS OLD.
NOW THOSE ARE THE TODDLERS AND MOST TIMES THE PARENTS ARE WITH THEM HOLDING THEM WHEN THEY'RE SWINGING OR WHATEVER.
BUT UH, THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO ISSUES I COULD SEE WITH THE PARK THAT WOULD GIVE THEM WHAT I WOULD CALL A SUB STANDUP RATED.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO WITH THAT ONE.
NOW THE THIRD BULLET THERE WAS WE DON'T HAVE THE SIX PICKUP ON COURTS IN YET, BUT I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A DEMAND FOR MORE COURTS AND WE CAN'T WAIT UNTIL PEOPLE START POUNDING ON THE DESK AND SENDING THE MAYOR EMAILS ABOUT PICKLEBALL COURTS TO START WORKING ON THIS PROCESS.
WHEN HE START THINKING ABOUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT BEFORE THAT NEED IS THERE AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIT IT INTO OUR PLAN.
BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA PUT MORE COURTS IN IN THE HUB IN THE HUBER HEIGHTS, YOU ONLY HAVE TWO OPTIONS.
EITHER PUT MORE, PUT SIX MORE AT COMMUNITY PARK OR GO TO CLOUD PARK WHERE THE TENNIS COURTS ARE AND PUT 'EM THERE.
YOU GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BEST WAY TO WORK THAT.
MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE INDOOR PICKLE WALL COURT.
MM-HMM
UH, THAT WE CAN PLAY YEAR ROUND.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU WE'RE GONNA GET THESE SPRING, SUMMER AND THEN YOU'RE DONE WITH THEM.
I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA INVEST MONEY WE SHOULD AT LEAST SOMETHING THAT COULD BE A YEAR ROUND PROCESS.
I'VE SEEN THOSE INDOOR COURTS AND I THINK THE ISSUE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THERE WOULD BE FUNDING.
YOU GOTTA HAVE A BUILDING BIG ENOUGH TO HOST THAT AND THAT MAY BE THE ISSUE OF FUNDING.
TEAM COMBAT SECTION OUT THERE.
THEY'RE NOT USING THAT ANYMORE.
WELL NOW THAT MAY ALL BE SOMETHING WE OUGHT INCLUDE IN OUR DISCUSSION AS WE START MOVING THE THING FORWARD IS TO SEE WHAT THE CITY HAS TO SAY ABOUT IT.
BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT KIND OF RESISTANCE WE GOT WHEN WE START TO
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PICK UP OUR COURTS AT COMMUNITY PARK ABOUT EIGHT, 10 YEARS AGO.WELL THE Y'S GONNA BUILD HIS ADDICTION ON THE BACK THE MORE
WELL AND YOU'RE RIGHT THAT BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS REALLY GROWING IN POPULARITY THERE.
BUT UH, I THINK THAT MAY BE THE ISSUE TRYING TO CONVINCE THEM TO PUT THAT KIND OF MONEY INTO IT.
BECAUSE PERSONALLY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD GOING TO BE ABLE TO SELL IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
WE CAN ALWAYS LOOK AT AN OPTION, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING BILL'S ALREADY THERE, IT MIGHT WORK.
I, IT'S STILL BETTER NOT BEING ABLE TO PLAY AT ALL.
USUALLY IT'S SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS IT'S PRIVATE COMPANIES THAT ARE BUILDING QUO HU OR WHATEVER THEY'RE PUTTING IN AND THEN MAKING A BUSINESS OUT OF IT.
BUT YEAH, THERE'S QUITE A FEW OF 'EM AROUND NOW.
CINCINNATI, HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN TO SPOOKY NOOK IN CINCINNATI? OH MY GOD YOU GOT 48 BASKETBALL PLAYERS.
THEY HOST A LOT OF THE TOURNAMENT.
WELL THAT'LL BE PART OF OUR DISCUSSION AS WE GO FORWARD THEN IS DO WE TRY AND GO INDOOR WITH SOME OF THESE OR DO WE CONTINUE TO FIND A WAY TO PUT 'EM OUT OUTDOORS? OKAY.
BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THIS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT YEAR I'M SURE, BUT IT PROBABLY TALK ABOUT TWO OR THREE YEARS DOWN A ROAD BECAUSE IF WE GET THESE SIX COURTS IN, I HAVE A FEAR WE GOING TO BEGIN IN HERE.
WE NEED MORE COURTS AND WE GOTTA START THINKING ABOUT THAT THEN.
WE ALSO CONCLUDED THAT WE NEED TO INCREASE THE PAID WALKING PAST.
THAT MAY NOT BE THAT BIG OF A, AN EXPENSE, BUT I THINK IT'LL BE A REAL BENEFIT TO THOSE WALKERS BECAUSE THAT WE WERE SAYING, WE TRYING TO UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T PUT ALL OF THE FUNDING IN OUR ATTENTION ON ONE PARTICULAR AGE GROUP.
ONE SORT OF SPREAD IT OUT SO THAT EVERYBODY GETS SOMETHING OUT OF THIS.
UH, ALSO WE PROJECT AN INCREASE IN PROGRAM FOR THOSE MILLENNIALS AND OLDER ADULTS.
THOSE ARE THE YOUNG ADULTS THAT ARE COMING ALONG AND OLDER ADULTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE TIME.
MOST OF 'EM ARE RETIRED IN THE MID SIXTIES ABOVE.
THOSE ARE THE ONES WHO USE THE WIRE EVERY DAY.
IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE WE COME TO THE Y BETWEEN NINE AND TWO, YOU SEE ALL THE SILVER SNEAKERS THERE MOST OF THE DAY.
CAN'T MAKE THAT HAPPEN ON WORK
SO WE NEED TO, UH, FOCUS ON, ON INCREASING THE ACTIVITY FOR THOSE TWO AGE GROUPS.
UH, I THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE CLOUD WE HAD THAT RUNNING PATH AROUND THE CLOUD PARK.
AND WE USED TO HAVE EXERCISE PLACES.
I THOUGHT WE YEAH, BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING UP TOP TO PUT ALL THE LIKE, UH, EXERCISE EQUIPMENT UP THERE IN ONE PLACE.
DIDN'T WE TALK ABOUT THAT ABOUT A YEAR OR SO AGO? YEAH, IT WAS ON THE PRIORITY LIST BUT IT IT ENDED UP RANKING DOWN LOWER.
'CAUSE THERE WAS A TALK, WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION AT A COUPLE MEETINGS ABOUT AN EXERCISE PAD I THINK IS HOW IT WAS LABELED.
'CAUSE I, I REMEMBER GIVEN A, I WAS IN TAMPA ONE TIME AND THEY HAD A UH, WHAT DO THEY CALL A RESISTANCE TYPE TRAINING RIGHT.
MACHINES AND THEY HAD IT ALL IN ONE PLACE AND IT WAS BEING USED BY QUITE A BIT, QUITE A FEW PEOPLE.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS IN THERE TOO.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE GO ON? ALRIGHT.
AND THE NEXT ITEM THERE WAS JUST THAT WE ARE, WE THINK THAT THE, UH, CURRENT FOR FACILIT THAT WE HAVE IN HUBBERT HEIGHTS ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE CURRENT POPULATION.
BUT I THINK AS THAT BABY BOOM GROUP BEGIN TO AGE AND SO FORTH, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO THINK MORE ABOUT ACTIVITIES THAT CAN FIT THAT PARTICULAR GROUP.
PRIMARILY THE WALKING PASS AND THE PICKLEBALL COURT.
THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE ACTIVITIES ARE RIGHT NOW FOR THAT GROUP IS IN THE WALKING AND PICKLEBALL.
AND THE LAST CHART THERE, JUST IDENTIFY WHO THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE AND IT SHOWS THAT WE HAVE ONE VACANT SPOT AND I THINK THAT'S THE SPOT THAT, UH, GLEN HAD.
ONCE WE KNOW FOR SURE HE'S RESIGNED.
ALRIGHT THEN I WILL WORK WITH THAT.
THEN UH, I WILL WORK TO, UH, VERIFY THAT GLEN HAS OFFICIALLY RESIGNED AND GET THAT DOCUMENT SIGNED IN FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
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OKAY.IF NOT, THEN THE NEXT ITEM THERE IS THE, UH, ITEM SEVEN ADDITIONAL BUSINESS AND ANNOUNCEMENT.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO.
ALRIGHT THEN WE ARE GOING TO APPROVE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
IF EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE UH, SEPTEMBER MINUTES.
WAS THERE ANY CORRECTION OR COMMENTS? IF THERE ARE NO CORRECTION OR COMMENTS THAT I RECOMMEND THAT THE MINUTES BE APPROVED OR THE END OBJECTION? NO OBJECTION.
THE UPCOMING MEETING NEXT MONTH BE NOVEMBER 16TH AND THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.