Sep 25, 2023 City Council Meeting

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE SAFE HEBREW HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

[1. Call The Meeting To Order - Mayor Jeff Gore]

THIS IS REGULAR SESSION.

IT IS SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2023, AND WE'RE GETTING STARTED AT SIX 14.

THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDER.

SO ITEM NUMBER TWO

[2. Invocation - Pastor Randy Griffith Of The Free Methodist Church At 6875 Old Troy Pike, Huber Heights, Ohio]

IS OUR INVOCATION, AND WE HAVE PASTOR RANDY GRIFFITH OF THE FREE METHODIST CHURCH AT 68 75 OLD TROY PIKE HERE IN HUB HEIGHTS WITH US THIS EVENING.

PASTOR, WELCOME.

TONIGHT WE HAVE THE FLAG CEREMONY BY THE WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL JUNIOR, R O T C, HONOR GUARD MARK, TIME PARK, COLORS PARK THREE

GOOD EVENING.

THE APOSTLE PAUL WAS ONCE A PERSECUTOR OF THE CHURCH, BUT HE WAS CHOSEN BY JESUS FOR THIS PURPOSE, TO CARRY THE NAME OF JESUS BEFORE THE GENTILES AND THEIR KINGS, AND BEFORE THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL TO CARRY THE NAME OF JESUS TO JEWS, TO GENTILES, WHICH IS ANYONE WHO'S NOT A JEW, AND TO THEIR KINGS, WHICH INCLUDES GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS.

AND BEFORE ONE OF THOSE KINGS, PAUL QUOTING JESUS AS TO WHY JESUS SAID HE HAD CHOSEN, PAUL SAID, I'VE APPEARED TO YOU TO APPOINT YOU AS A SERVANT AND AS A WITNESS OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN OF ME AND WHAT I WILL SHOW YOU TO TESTIFY TO THE TRUTH OF WHO JESUS IS AND TO THE WILL OF GOD.

JESUS TOLD HIM, I'M SENDING YOU TO THEM TO OPEN THEIR EYES AND TURN THEM FROM DARKNESS TO LIGHT AND FROM THE POWER OF SATAN TO GOD SO THAT THEY MAY RECEIVE FORGIVENESS OF SINS AND A PLACE AMONG THOSE WHO ARE SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME.

THE WORD SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN JESUS MEANS SET APART AS HOLY AND BEING MADE HOLY BY FAITH IN JESUS AND THE POWER OF HIS SPIRIT.

AND THIS GOD DESIRES FOR ALL INDIVIDUALS, COMMUNITIES, AND NATIONS.

LET'S PRAY.

FATHER, WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE ABOVE ALL THINGS, THAT YOU HOLD EVERYTHING TOGETHER, AND WE LOOK TO YOU TO GUIDE THIS MEETING TONIGHT.

AND LORD JUST ORCHESTRATE YOUR WILL AND WE'LL THANK YOU.

IN CHRIST'S NAME.

AMEN.

KING.

[3. Flag Ceremony - Wayne High School Junior ROTC Honor Guard]

[4. Pledge Of Allegiance]

PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD AND INDIVISIBLE WITH THE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL CARRIE CO BOARD COLORS.

ALRIGHT,

[5. Roll Call]

MR. ROGERS, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? YES, SIR.

[ City Council Meeting Minutes - September 11, 2023]

UP IS ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES ITEM SIX A.

WE HAVE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES DATED SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2023.

UH, THERE'S NO CORRECTIONS OR ERRORS ANYONE NEEDS TO TALK ABOUT.

THOSE MINUTES WILL STAND AS APPROVED.

ANYONE? OKAY.

SAYING NONE THOSE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 11TH ARE APPROVED.

NEXT IS ITEM S, NUMBER SEVEN, SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.

MR. ROGERS? THERE ARE NOT IN THIS EVENING, MAYOR.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UH, NEXT

[8. Citizens Comments]

IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

CITIZENS' COMMENTS? YES.

UH, I HAVE ONE.

UH, JUST A REMINDER THAT CITIZENS GIVEN TIME TO SPEAK DURING THE MEETING.

WHETHER GENERAL COMMENTS OR COMMENTS ON SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS MAY DO SO ONLY IF REGISTERED BY COMPLETING A CITIZEN'S COMMENT REQUEST FORM AND SUBMITTING THE FORM TO THE CLERK OF COUNSEL PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING.

CITIZEN'S COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO NO MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES PER PERSON AND ARE LIMITED TO THE SUBJECT UNDER DISCUSSION OF SPEAKING ON AN AGENDA ITEM.

THIS TIME IS FOR COMMENTS AND STATEMENTS ONLY AND IS NOT A FORMAT FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.

SO WHO YOU HAVE TO SAY, UH, MR. JEFF MORFORD.

ACRES OF LAND LOCATED IN BETHEL TOWNSHIP, MIAMI COUNTY HAS BEEN IN THE FOREFRONT.

GOOD EVENING.

JEFF MORFORD, MIAMI COUNTY, BETHEL TOWNSHIP.

UH, LET'S SEE.

TO PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL AS HUBER HEIGHTS CITIZENS, PLEASE PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE ACTIONS OF YOUR MAYOR.

OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, THE ANNEXATION REQUEST OF 250 TO 300

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MIAMI COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN AGAINST IT.

THE BETHEL TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES HAVE BEEN AGAINST IT.

THE CITIZENS OF BETHEL HAVE BEEN AGAINST IT, AND HUBER HEIGHTS CITIZENS HAVE VOICED THEIR OPPOSITION.

THIS HAS NOT BEEN A UNDOCUMENTED LOW LEVEL SITUATION OF LITTLE IMPORTANCE WITH NO EXPOSURE AND NO NEWSWORTHINESS.

THE ANNEXATION HAS BEEN DRIVEN THROUGH NORMAL, REGULATED AND ESTABLISHED BY LAW, TIMELINE AND SCHEDULE TAKING LITERALLY YEARS ADVANCING THROUGH VERY VARIED COUNTY TOWNSHIP AND MISS MUNICIPALITY OFFICES ACTING WITHIN THEIR DESIGN AND DEATH CONTAINER TIMELINE.

WITHIN YOUR HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL, YOU HAVE INDIVIDUALLY LOOKED AT THE ANN ACCESSORY REQUESTS AND MADE YOUR DECISION PREPARED TO VOTE WITHIN YOUR OFFICE'S TIMELINE.

BUT IN THE 11TH HOUR, YOUR MAYOR DID HIS PERSONAL TALLY OF HOW THE VOTE WOULD GO AND DIDN'T LIKE WHAT HE SAW.

SPEAKING OF THE ANNEXATION, I QUOTE, I WON'T BE BRINGING IT FORWARD DUE TO THE MAKEUP OF THIS COUNCIL.

AFTER READING THIS, I CAN ONLY SURMISE THE MAYOR WILL START THE PROCESS OVER WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HE BELIEVES WILL VOTE NO ARE GONE.

AND NEW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE IN OFFICE WHO WOULD VOTE IN LINE WITH HIS WAY OF THINKING TO PAST, PRESENT FU, FUTURE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITIZENS OF HUBER HEIGHTS, WHO VOTED FOR YOUR WARD COUNCILMEN AND WOMEN TO REPRESENT YOU, THE MAYOR HAS BEEN ABLE TO CHANGE THE POSSIBLE RESULTS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS AND THE CITY COUNCIL VOTE RESULTS BY NOT ALLOWING A VOTE AT ALL.

I QUESTION IT LEGALLY.

I QUESTION IT MORALLY.

I QUESTION IT ETHICALLY.

WHY HAVE A HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL AT ALL HUBER HEIGHTS CITIZENS? IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

LET YOUR CITY COUNCIL KNOW HOW YOU FEEL IN FUTURE ELECTIONS.

PLEASE LOOK AT THOSE WHO ARE RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

DO THEY REPRESENT THE DIRECTION YOU WANT YOUR HUBER HEIGHTS TO GO? DO THEY REPRESENT HOW YOU WOULD LIKE YOUR CITY TO, TO BE PERCEIVED? ARE YOU A GOOD NEIGHBOR OR ARE YOU WILLING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR NEIGHBORS BEING DISADVANTAGED? I CONSIDER THE ACTION OF THE DEVELOPERS WHO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A HIGHLY CONTESTED ANNEXATION, PLACING UNDUE STRESS ON BETHEL SCHOOLS OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS, REMINISCENT OF A SCHOOLYARD BULLY.

PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING.

AND DEEP DOWN, I KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT THING IS.

STAY WITHIN YOUR BOUNDARIES.

TAKE CARE OF YOUR CITIZENS AND LET US TAKE CARE OF OUR CITIZENS AND OUR RESPONSIBILITIES.

DO NOT OFFER SERVICES TO THESE DEVELOPERS.

YOU ARE ALREADY STRETCHED THIN AND VOTE NO TO ANNEXATION.

AS ALWAYS, I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THE GOLDEN RULE.

DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.

OKAY, DID ANYONE

[9. Citizens Registered To Speak On Agenda Items]

AGENDA ITEM 11 A.

UH, WE'LL DO, WE'LL DO THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT ITEM.

WE'LL CALL YOU.

[10. City Manager Report]

ALRIGHT.

AND NEXT UP WOULD BE ITEM NUMBER 10, WHICH IS OUR CITY MANAGER REPORT.

MR. ZICK? YES.

UM, AS COUNSEL'S AWARE, THE RES STRIPING OF OLD TROY PIKE, UH, WAS COMPLETED OVERNIGHT ON FRIDAY.

THAT PROJECT WAS DELAYED, UH, BY A DAY BECAUSE OF CONTRACTOR EQUIPMENT FAILURE.

UM, AFTER REVIEWING THE TRAFFIC PATTERN TODAY, UH, I WORKED WITH, UH, THE CITY ENGINEER.

UH, HE'S DETERMINED THAT HE'S GONNA DO A VERY BRIEF LEFT TURN ONTO THE MERRILEE WAY AND WAYNE TOWN BOULEVARD, UH, TO CLEAR OUT THAT TURN LANE.

UH, IT'LL ONLY LAST ABOUT 13 SECONDS, BUT THERE'S BEEN SOME CONFUSION, UM, WITH WIND TO TURN AND WHEN NOT TO TURN OUTTA THAT TURN LANE.

SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE TRAFFIC FLOW IN THE AREA AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT, UH, WE NEED TO DO TO IMPROVE IT.

UH, FACADE WORK IS ONGOING FOR THE D C R DAYTON PROJECT.

THE, UH, INTERNAL REMODELING IS ALSO STILL ON SCHEDULE.

UM, THE ARCHITECTS MET WITH THE SENIOR CENTER STAFF AND SHARED THE UPDATED LOCATION FOR THE GOVERNANCE CENTER AND SENIOR, UH, SENIOR CENTER.

UH, THEY ALSO SHARED WITH THEM SOME OF THE CHANGES TO THE LAYOUT, UH, INTERNALLY, UH, FROM WHAT THE ARCHITECTS REPORTED,

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THEY WERE VERY HAPPY WITH THE NEW LOCATION.

UH, THEY HAD SOME MINOR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT PARKING AND BATHROOM MODIFICATIONS, NAMELY FOR AN ADULT CHANGING STATION.

BUT, UH, OVERALL IT WAS REPORTED TO BE A A VERY POSITIVE MEETING, UH, WITH THE SENIOR CENTER STAFF.

UH, THEY LAID THE FIRST LAYER OF ASPHALT FOR THE PICKLEBALL COURTS TODAY.

UH, NEXT THEY'LL INSTALL SLEEVES, THEN NET POSTS, UH, AND FOR THE INTERNAL FENCE, THEY'LL INSTALL POSTS.

UH, THEY'LL ALSO INSTALL THE EXTERIOR FENCE POSTS, AND ONCE THAT'S COMPLETE, UH, THEY'LL LAY THE SECOND LAYER OF ASPHALT.

THEY DO NEED TO WAIT THREE WEEKS AFTER THE ASPHALT'S PUT DOWN TO PAINT THE COURTS.

SO WE'RE EXPECTING THIS TO BE COMPLETED IN ABOUT TWO MONTHS.

AND THEN, UH, THIS SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 30TH, FROM SIX TO 9:00 PM UH, PREMIUM BLEND WILL BE PERFORMING AT THE, UH, EEL BERGER AMPHITHEATER AS PART OF THE SUMMER CONCERT SERIES.

SO, UH, HEAD OVER TO THE FARMER'S MARKET AND STICK AROUND FOR THE CONCERT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR RICK REGARDING HIS REPORT? YES.

ANITA, THIS IS A LITTLE OFF THE REPORT.

THE LAST TIME THAT WAS SAID THAT THEY WERE CLOSE TO HIRING A PARK AND REC MANAGER.

IS THAT HAPPENED YET? IT HAS.

I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATE, BUT, UH, A CANDIDATE HAS BEEN SELECTED AND THEY'LL BE JOINING US VERY SOON.

YES, ED.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UH, MR. ZICK, UM, WE HAD TALKED EARLIER LAST WEEK AND I HAD ASKED YOU ABOUT THE, UH, STAFFING FOR FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC MM-HMM.

, UH, WHICH WERE NON-SUPERVISORY POSITIONS.

DID YOU HAVE THAT, UH, TOTAL NUMBER UP TO DATE AT THIS TIME? I DID NOT.

I APOLOGIZE.

WOULD YOU GET THAT TO ME AS SOON AS YOU CAN? YEP.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, UM, I THINK THE LEFT TURN ARROW BACK ON MARY WAY AND, AND LANE TOWN BOULEVARD WILL BE, UH, A VERY WELCOMED ADDITION TO THAT INTERSECTION ALONG WITH THE RES STRIPING.

SO, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, I THINK WE'VE FINALLY GOT A SITUATION THERE THAT WORKS FOR MOST PEOPLE TRAVELING THAT, UH, OLD TROY PIKE, UH, UNTIL WE GET THE ACTUAL FINISH DONE, WE GET THE EXPANSION LANE THERE.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'VE HAD PEOPLE REACH OUT TO ME THAT, UH, TRAFFIC IS SLOWING MUCH, MUCH MORE SMOOTH THROUGH THERE.

AND, UH, EVEN WITH HOW SMOOTH IT WAS FLOWING, PEOPLE WERE STILL, UH, THERE WAS SEVERAL PEOPLE ASKED FOR, HEY, CAN WE GET, CAN WE LEAST GET THE TURN ARROW BACK, UM, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEARING THAT OUT BECAUSE THE STACKING NOW IS, IS DEEPER.

SO MM-HMM.

, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT, THAT THAT'S HAPPENING.

AND, UM, HOPEFULLY WE'RE RES WE'VE RESOLVED A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES ON, ON THAT STRETCH OVER THE ROAD THERE.

SO, UH, THOSE WILL BE MY COMMENTS.

ANYONE ELSE? YES, RICHARD.

SPECIFICALLY IN THE LEGISLATION.

UH, THIS IS, UH, FOR THE CITY MANAGER AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

UM, I HAD REQUESTED THE UNREDACTED, UH, TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS TO BE COMPLETED, AND I HAVE NOT YET RECEIVED THAT.

UM, IS THAT EXPECTED TO BE OUT THIS WEEK? UH, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS WEEK.

I THOUGHT I SENT AN EMAIL THAT WE HAVE TO FINALIZE THE STUDY.

UH, IT'S STILL KIND OF IN THE DRAFT FORM.

UM, AND AS SOON AS THAT FINAL VERSION IS DONE, I WILL GET IT OUT TO COUNSEL.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION YOU'RE RECEIVING DOESN'T CHANGE A WEEK OR TWO AFTER YOU GET IT.

SO THANK YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE? YES, GLENN? NOTHING FOR THE CITY MANAGER.

TONY, WOULD THIS BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO, UH, ASK FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE AGENDA? YES, THAT COULD BE DONE.

THEN I'D LIKE TO, UM, UH, LIKE TO MOVE TO RETURN THE LEGISLATION FROM THE WORK SESSION AGENDA, TOPIC O THE POLICE DIVISION, UM, STAFFING INFORMATION BACK TO THIS AGENDA.

UM, I WOULD ALSO MOTION TO AMEND TO THAT LEGISLATION TO REMOVE DIRECT REFERENCE TO A TRAFFIC CONTROL UNIT.

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY REFERENCES TO A TRAFFIC CONTROL UNIT.

NO.

IT'S, IT'S JUST THE NORMAL I HAVE IT HERE.

IT'S THE NORMAL, UH, STAFFING CHART THAT JUST FIXES THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS WHICH THIS WOULD, UH, CHANGE THE, UM, NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS TO 47.

UH, AND THEN WITH THE OTHER SWORN OFFICERS, THE CHIEF, THE LIEUTENANT AND THE SERGEANTS.

UH, THAT COMES TO 59, I BELIEVE.

LABOR COUNCIL, UH, CAME AND STATED THAT THE MEMBERSHIP, OUR POLICE OFFICERS, UM, WERE RECEIVING A COMPLETE LACK OF SUPPORT, UM, AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, THE ONE THAT WE JUST HAD PREVIOUSLY TO THIS ONE, SEPTEMBER 11TH OF THIS YEAR, SEPTEMBER 11TH, MIND YOU COUNSEL SPOKE AND ADDED FOUR ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS THROUGH A SIMPLE MOTION IN THIS, UH, COUNCIL MEETING.

AND THEN THERE'S THE SUPPLEMENTAL COMPANION PIECE.

THEN HAVE I GIVEN YOU PLENTY OF MOTION? YEAH, I THINK THAT YOUR MOTION WOULD JUST BE FROM ITEM THREE OH TO ADD THE TWO ITEMS OF LEGISLATION ONTO THE AGENDA FOR THIS COUNCIL.

EXCELLENT.

UH, BE HAPPY TO MAKE THAT MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND, ANITA? I SECOND THE MOTION.

MOTION.

I SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? YES, ED.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UM, IN, UH, COUNCIL MEETING ON MONDAY, AUGUST 28TH, SO THIS WAS ABOUT A MONTH AGO.

UM, DOUG BARRINGER, F O P 1 61 GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE OHIO

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UH, THAT PARTICULAR LEGISLATION, WHICH IS A PART OF THE PROCESS TO COME FORWARD, WAS ABSENT FROM TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS A RESULT.

WE HAD DISCUSSION IN LAST C COUNCIL WORK SESSION JUST BEFORE THIS MEETING.

AND, UH, TWO OF THE VOTES HAD CHANGED.

AND, UH, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS MOTION IN THE PROCESS FOR THE ACTUAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ADD FOUR ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS TO, UM, OUR ROSTER.

AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, UM, THIS IS THE PROCESS WE'RE GOING THROUGH.

UH, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN INFORMED THAT IN THE WORK SESSION THAT THIS COUNSEL'S NOT GOING TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT MOTION.

WE'RE NOT GONNA ADD ANY ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS AT THIS TIME.

SO THE STATEMENT THAT OUR F O P MADE THROUGH A LAWYER THAT THEY RECEIVE A COMPLETE LACK OF SUPPORT IS CONTINUING THROUGH THE SPEAKING AND THE VOTE OF THIS VERY COUNCIL TONIGHT, A COMPLETE LACK OF SUPPORT AND THE DISCUSSION.

OKAY, MAYOR, I HAVE TO REFUTE WHAT MR. COUNCILMAN LYON SAID.

AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

THREE ARE ON THE WAY TO BE HIRED, ANOTHER ONE'S IN THE WORKS, AND THERE'S THREE MORE IN THE PIPELINE.

SO I TOTALLY REFUTE WHAT HE SAID, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE SUPPORT TO HIRE WHAT THEY NEED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, TONY, MS. BAKER? YES.

YEAH, SHE SAID, I'M SORRY.

I THOUGHT WE WERE VOTING ON 11 ITEM 11 A.

IT'S BADLY.

SO COULD YOU RESTATE YOUR VOTE? MY VOTE IS NOT QUESTION ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

WE'RE GOING TO WAIT AND HEAR FROM MR. MANAGER.

MR. CAMPBELL? NO.

MRS. BURGE? NO.

MR. OTTO? YES, ABSOLUTELY.

SO I WILL GO BACK TO MY STANCE AT THE WORK SESSION FOR THOSE THAT WERE HERE.

UM, I KNOW WHAT THE F O P ATTORNEY SAID WHILE HE WAS HERE, BUT WE'VE ALSO HEARD FROM THE POLICE CHIEF THAT HE HAS TALKED TO, UH, AND SPOKE WITH, UH, PART OF THE LABOR.

AND THEY ARE, UH, OKAY WITH, WITH WAITING UNTIL WE HAVE THE DATE OF ACT TO DETERMINE WHAT THE BEST ALLOCATION OF THOSE RESOURCES ARE.

UM, SO STANDING BEHIND, UH, THE WORD OF OUR POLICE CHIEF AND, UH, AND THE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY MANAGER, UH, MY VOTE IS NO.

SO THE MOTION FAILS FIVE TO FOUR.

FOUR, FOUR TO FIVE? YES.

UP IS ITEM 11, A UNDERPINNING BUSINESS TIME.

SO NEXT

[ An Ordinance To Approve A Rezoning Of Approximately 2.44 Acres From Office (O1) To Planned Commercial (PC) And To Approve A Basic Development Plan Of 5.41 Acres For The Property Located At 4949 Chambersburg Road And Further Identified As Parcel Numbers P70 04004 0017 And P70 04004 0026 On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Map And To Accept The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Case BDP 23-17). (second reading)]

I, UH, I ITEM 11 A IN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REZONING OF APPROXIMATELY 2.44 ACRES FROM OFFICE OH ONE TO PLAN COMMERCIAL PC.

AND TO APPROVE, APPROVE A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, 5.41 ACRES FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 49 49 CHAMBERSBURG ROAD, FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL NUMBERS P 7 0 4 4 0 0 1 7 AND P 7 0 0 4 0 4 0 26 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP.

AND TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION CASE B D P 23 DASH 17 AT THE SECOND READING, AND RICK COMMENTS, UM, NO COMMENTS ON THIS.

UH, I THINK WE DISCUSSED IT PRETTY IN DEPTH LAST, UH, LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

AND THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE HAVE SOME, UH, A CITIZEN COMMENT.

PATRICIA DYER, THE POWER PLEASE.

UH, I'D CALL MS. PRODU.

HI, MY NAME'S PATRICIA DYER.

I'M A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF HUBER HEIGHTS.

I DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD A PREVIOUS MEETING ALREADY ABOUT THIS DISCUSSION.

I UNDERSTAND THAT'S A REZONING REQUEST TO PUT IN A WAWA GAS STATION.

AND I JUST PRAY THAT YOU ALL VOTE NO, WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER GAS STATION ON OLD TROY PIPE.

IF THEY WANNA BUILD ONE, LET BUILD IT SOMEPLACE ELSE IN THIS CITY.

THERE'S ALREADY 12 STATIONS FROM NEED MORE ROAD TO ROUTE 40 ON OLD TROY

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PIKE.

A 13TH ONE IS REALLY UNNECESSARY.

IT WOULD BE A TRAVESTY TO CUT DOWN ALL OF THOSE TREES AND BUILD A GAS STATION THERE.

AND THERE'S ALREADY A GAS STATION AND CONVENIENCE STORE ON THE CORNER.

I HAVE GONE TO A WAWA IN VIRGINIA.

THERE WAS NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT THAT GAS STATION.

AND WE DON'T GET ANY LOWER PRICES.

THE MORE GAS STATIONS WE GET, EXCEPT FOR THE LITTLE GAS HO SHEETS RIGHT NOW.

SO I JUST ASK YOU THAT IT'S A TRAVESTY TO CUT DOWN ALL THOSE TREES FOR A GAS STATION.

GET SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THIS CITY THAN THAT, AND LET WAWA MOOSE SOMEPLACE ELSE.

THANK YOU, BRIAN.

OKAY, THE COUNCIL, UH, WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT THIS ITEM THIS EVENING.

IS THERE A MOTION DOM? SO MOVED.

IS THERE A SECOND MARK? SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM COUNSEL ON THIS ITEM? GLENN? I JUST WANNA SAY PUBLICLY I'M CONFLICTED ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THE PROJECT, THE COMPANY'S GREAT.

THE PROJECT WOULD BE NICE.

UM, I THINK WE CAN WORK OUT ANY OF THE ISSUES WITH, UH, TRAFFIC FLOW AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UM, NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, I'M VERY LET DOWN FROM THE FACT THAT WE'VE COME, WE'VE ASKED FOR DATA, SOME VERY DETAILED AND COMPLETE DATA TO SPEAK TO THE NUMBER OF FUELING STATIONS WITHIN THIS TOWN BECAUSE WE WERE WELL OVER OUR LIMIT A WHILE BACK.

AND ALL WE'VE DONE IS ADD MORE.

SO, UM, THOUGH THE VOTE IS SECONDS AWAY, THIS IS GONNA BE TOUGH FOR ME.

AND, UM, I'M VERY CONFLICTED OVER THIS.

'CAUSE I AGREE TO A GREAT EXTENT THAT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, THEY'RE POPPING UP TOO QUICK, TOO FAST AND ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN ADDRESSED THE FACT THAT WE GOT A TON THAT I'M NOT EVEN SURE SOME OF 'EM ARE, ARE HARDLY OPEN.

UM, SO THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANKS LYNN.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ANITA? IT'S NOTHING AGAINST WAWA, BUT I DO NOT LIKE THAT LOCATION AND I'M GONNA BE A NO VOTE.

I AM NOT OKAY WITH THAT LOCATION.

I JUST SEE IT BEING AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN RIGHT THERE WITH THAT GRADE AND EVERYTHING.

AND ALSO, I AM GONNA STATE IT PUBLICLY AGAIN.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE BROWNFIELDS THAT OUR CITY IS GOING TO HAVE, AND WE HAVE NO PLAN ABOUT IT WHATSOEVER.

AND I MEAN, WE JUST DID A MOTION ABOUT A PLAN FOR THE CITY POLICE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

WELL, WHERE'S THE PLAN FOR THIS? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, RICHARD? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, MY COMMENTS REGARDING THIS LOCATION, UM, AS IT DOES RESIDE IN MY WARD, UM, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS LEGISLATION THIS EVENING, UH, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE MASSIVE TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IN THE AREA.

I DO NOT THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE FAC UM, SITE FOR THIS FACILITY.

ADDITIONALLY, I, UM, AM ALSO AWAITING ON A, A COMPLETE AND VETTED STAFF REPORT ON THE FUELING STATIONS.

UH, THE IMPACTS TO OUR AREA AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN, NOT IF WILL HAPPEN WHEN WE SEE A LOT OF THESE SMALLER GAS STATIONS CLOSED DOWN.

AND WE AS A CITY HAVE TO GO IN TO REMEDIATE THAT.

UM, IT'S BEEN STATED PUBLICLY THAT, UH, GAS STATIONS ARE POPPING UP ALL OVER OUR, UM, OUR REGION ON ALL OVER THE STATE AND ALL OVER THE COUNTY.

UM, AND I WAS VERY SAD, UH, TO SEE THAT THIS ONE WAS NOT GOING TO INCORPORATE IMMEDIATELY AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE MODIFICATION, UH, WHICH HAS BEEN SUPPORTED BY THE M V R P C AND DAYTON DEVELOPMENT COALITION AS WELL AS THE GOVERNOR HIMSELF.

UM, I DO, I DO FIND THAT, UM, A LOT OF THE NEWER, UH, BUILT FACILITIES THAT WILL BE COMING, UH, IN FRONT OF THIS COUNSEL, I HOPE, UH, WE'LL HAVE THAT CONSIDERATION, UM, AS IT DOES ALIGN IN MY OPINION, PROPERLY WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UM, MAYOR, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.

FIRE SAFETY FACILITIES BY CONSTRUCTING, FURNISHING AND EQUIPPING A NEW FIRE STATION AND OTHERWISE IMPROVING THE SITE.

THANKS, RICHARD.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, TONY.

[ An Ordinance Providing For The Issuance And Sale Of Notes In The Maximum Principal Amount Of $1,800,000, In Anticipation Of The Issuance Of Bonds, For The Purpose Of Paying The Costs Of Improving The Municipal Fire Safety Facilities By Constructing, Furnishing And Equipping A New Fire Station, And Otherwise Improving The Site Therefor, Together With All Necessary Appurtenances Thereto. (second reading)]

WE HAVE ITEM 11 B.

ITEM 11 B, AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF NOTES AND THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPLE AMOUNT OF $1,800,000 IN ANTICIPATION OF THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE COSTS OF IMPROVING THE MUNICIPAL

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THEREFORE, TOGETHER WITH ALL THE NECESSARY, UH, PCES THERE TOO AT THE SECOND READING.

AND, UH, RICK, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? UH, THIS IS JUST, UH, FIRE STATION 23.

FIRE STATION 23.

COUNCIL WORK SESSION.

RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT THIS ITEM THIS EVENING.

IS THERE A MOTION MARK? MOTION TO ADOPT NANCY.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, ANY, I BELIEVE I ASKED AT THE LAST THING, ALL THESE BONDS COMING UP, I WAS WANTING WHAT IS THE ESTIMATED COST OF EACH OF THESE PROJECTS? NOT THE INITIAL PROJECT.

THE OVERALL PROJECT.

AND I HAVE NEVER GOTTEN ANY OF THAT INFORMATION.

AND I WILL BE REAL HONEST, I'M A NO VOTE ON DOWN THE ROAD UNTIL I GET THE TOTAL NUMBERS OF THIS STUFF BECAUSE THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG.

AND WE NEED TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

'CAUSE WE NEED TO ADD MORE POLICE.

WE NEED TO ADD OUR WATER LINES THAT WE'VE NEVER COME UP WITH.

THE WAY HOW WE'RE FUNDING THIS, WE HAVE ASKED FOR DEBT REDUCTION.

AND WHAT ARE WE DOING? WE'RE ADDING A TON MORE DEBT.

I, I, I CAN'T APPROVE THIS STUFF.

I'VE GOTTEN NONE OF THOSE NUMBERS.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ATTORNEY MRS. BURGE? YES.

MOTION PASSES FIVE TO FOUR.

NEXT UP IS ITEM

[ An Ordinance Providing For The Issuance And Sale Of Notes In The Maximum Principal Amount Of $7,262,000, In Anticipation Of The Issuance Of Bonds, For The Purpose Of Paying The Costs Of Acquiring Approximately 19.5 Acres Of Real Property Near The Intersection Of Brandt Pike And Fishburg Road, Providing For The Site Preparation Thereof, Improving And Rehabilitating Certain Of The Buildings And Razing Certain Other Buildings Located Thereupon, All In Support Of Economic Development And Job Creation Within The City. (second reading)]

11 C.

ITEM 11 C, AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF NOTES IN THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPLE AMOUNT OF $7,262,000 AND ANTICIPATES THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE COST OF ACQUIRING APPROXIMATELY 19.5 ACRES OF RIO PROPERTY NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF GRANT PIKE AND FISHBURG ROAD, PROVIDING FOR THE SITE PREPARATION THEREOF, IMPROVING AND REHABILITATING CERTAIN OTHER BUILDINGS AND RAISING CERTAIN OTHER BUILDINGS LOCATED THEREON, ALL IN SUPPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND JOB CREATION WITHIN THE CITY AT THE SECOND READING.

GREAT COMMENTS? YEAH.

THIS IS, UH, MARION MEADOW'S PROJECT, BOTH LAND ACQUISITION AND RENOVATION.

AND THE WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT EVENING MARK.

MOTION TO ADOPT FOR SECOND DON.

I WILL.

SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? GLENN? THIS PIECE WILL EXTREMELY PAIN ME BECAUSE AS MUCH AS I WANNA SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN IN THAT LOCATION, AND I'VE BEEN BEHIND THAT, UH, THAT THOUGHT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND PUT IN A LOT OF WORK ON IT AT THIS POINT, THE WAY I SEE IT, IT'S BEEN TOTALLY FLIPPED UPSIDE DOWN, RUN OVER.

UM, AND IT'S JUST, IT'S NOTHING EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY ASKED FOR, WANTED OR SUPPORTED, UM, IN PAST YEARS.

I CANNOT BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS ANY LONGER.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION MR. OTTO? NO.

UH, SO I WOULD, I WOULD ADD SOME CLARIFICATION TO THIS.

SO I KNOW THERE'S, UH, APPARENTLY SOME FRUSTRATION AMONGST COUNSEL IN IMPROVING THESE BONDS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ON THE RECORD THAT THE TIME TO VOICE YOUR NO VOTE AND YOUR OPINION ON THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY BEING SPENT WOULD'VE BEEN BACK BEFORE WE COMMISSIONED THIS WORK.

EVEN BEING DONE.

NOT WAITING UNTIL WE'VE STARTED, NOT WAITING UNTIL WE'VE ENGAGED ARCHITECTS.

NOT WAITING UNTIL WE'VE SPENT THE MONEY ALREADY GETTING THINGS STARTED AND THEN MAKE A DECISION TO NOT FUND THE COMPLETION OF IT.

THE TIME TO VOTE NO.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN WAY BACK WHEN THIS PROCESS STARTED.

AND SINCE THAT HASN'T HAPPENED AND EVERYONE HAS SUPPORTED THIS UP TO THIS POINT, MY VOTE IS YES.

MOTION PASSES FIVE TO FOUR BLOOD.

MINE CAN CHANGE.

THANKS, MAYOR.

YEAH.

UM, AND I'D LIKE TO SAY I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE TIME TO VOTE.

I WAS ALSO LIKE TO STATE PLEASE, THAT I HAVE NEVER BEEN OKAY WITH THE MARY MEADOWS PROJECT AND I'VE BEEN THAT WAY.

I WAS THE ONLY NO VOTE WAY BACK WHEN.

SO MY POSITION HAS NEVER CHANGED.

OKAY, NEXT UP

[ An Ordinance Providing For The Issuance And Sale Of Notes In The Maximum Principal Amount Of $6,238,000, In Anticipation Of The Issuance Of Bonds, For The Purpose Of Paying The Costs Of Improving The City’s Facilities By Constructing, Furnishing And Equipping A New Building To House The Public Works Department, Including Landscaping, Site Improvements, Any Necessary Utility Improvements, Constructing Related Parking Facilities, And Acquiring Real Property And Interests Therein In Connection Therewith, All Together With The Necessary Appurtenances Thereto. (second reading)]

IS ITEM 11 D.

ITEM 11 D, AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF NOTES AND THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPLE AMOUNT OF $6,238,000 IN ANTICIPATION OF THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE COST OF IMPROVING THE CITY'S FACILITIES BY CONSTRUCTING, FURNISHING, AND EQUIPPING A NEW BUILDING TO HOUSE THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING LANDSCAPING SITE IMPROVEMENTS, ANY NECESSARY UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS, CONSTRUCTING RELATED PARKING FACILITIES, AND ACQUIRING REAL PROPERTY AND INTEREST THEREIN IN CONNECTION THEREWITH ALTOGETHER WITH THE NECESSARY S THERE TOO AT THE SECOND READING.

RICK, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? UH, THIS IS FOR DESIGN AND LAND ACQUISITION FOR THE NEW PUBLIC WORKS

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FACILITY.

IS THERE A MOTION KATE? MOVE TO ADOPT MARK SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I NEED IT.

SO HOW MUCH IS THIS PROJECT ONCE WE BUY THIS? WHAT'S THE OVERALL COST? I'LL HAVE TO DIG INTO THAT WITH JIM TO FIND OUT FOR SURE.

'CAUSE I'D ASKED FOR IT THE LAST TIME.

SO I'VE JUST, I I DON'T WANNA APPROVE STUFF THAT I MIGHT NOT WANNA VOTE FOR IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE I JUST GOT TOLD, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DO IT UP FRONT.

SO I DON'T WANNA APPROVE LAND ACQUISITION STUFF FOR PROJECT I MIGHT NOT APPROVE IN THE FUTURE.

MAYOR, MAY I MAKE, MAKE, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION? HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

I JUST WANNA ASK, SO IS IT OKAY IF I ADDRESS BRIAN? SO BRIAN, YOU WERE THE INTERIM WHILE WE WERE GOING OVER ALL THIS STUFF AND PUTTING ALL THESE NUMBERS TOGETHER.

SO FRICK DOESN'T HAVE THE NUMBERS THAT TO BEGIN WITH WHEN WE GO OVER ALL THE PRESENTATIONS, EVERYTHING WAS DONE IN THIS PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY.

UH, WE SAW THE PRESENTATION FOR THE BUILDING.

UH, EVERYBODY WAS IN SUPPORT OF IT BACK THEN.

SO CAN YOU TELL US, UH, JUST BASED ON, UH, YOU WERE HERE WHEN WE WERE GOING OVER ALL THIS STUFF, WHAT THOSE, WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE AND WHAT THE, WHAT THE COST IS THAT, ARE YOU, ARE YOU SURE THAT'S FINANCE? HE'S NOT IN CHARGE OF FINANCE ANYMORE.

HE DOESN'T ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS ANYMORE.

WELL, SO, SO I DO WANNA SAY I HAVE THE SPREADSHEET'S CONFUSING.

I HAVE THE NUMBER ON THAT PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY.

I DON'T HAVE IT ON THE FULL COST ON EVERY ONE OF THEM.

SOME OF THEM ARE BROKEN DOWN BY QUARTER, BUT FOR PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY CONSTRUCTION, IT'S 15,200,000 FOR LAND PURCHASE FOR PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, IT'S 587,400.

OKAY, SO ABOUT 16 MILLION.

THAT'S THE NUMBER? YES.

KATE, THANK YOU MAYOR.

IF ANYBODY EVER GETS THEIR PACKET AND THEY READ, FOLLOW AND UNDERSTAND IT.

AND IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, YOU NEED TO EMAIL THE CLERK AND THE CITY MANAGER WAITING TILL THIS MEETING IS SO INAPPROPRIATE.

OH, REALLY? FOR ANYONE? IS THAT KINDA LIKE AN AGENDA ITEM NOT SHOWING UP ON THE COUNCIL WHEN IT'S POSTED? AND YOU SENT AN EMAIL, DIDN'T YOU? ISN'T THAT AGENDA ENOUGH? ATTENTION THE POLICE TO VOTE YOU WANTED? WELL, WE, WE'LL DO OUR QUESTION.

JOB.

YOU DO YOURS.

YOU DON'T FUND POLICE OFFICERS.

WE'LL TRY TO RUN THE CITY AS BEST WE CAN IN THE MINORITY.

IF YOU READ VOTE AND UNDERSTOOD PACKET, YOU'D BE A LOT BETTER OFF.

WE DON'T HAVE BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE, THE POLICE, THEN YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

MADAM COUNCILWOMAN.

MM-HMM.

AND MAYOR.

AND EVERY ONE OF YOU THAT VOTED NO ON THIS.

SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ACTUAL ITEM NOW THAT WE HAVE THE TOTAL NUMBER? MR. LYONS? NO.

[ An Ordinance Providing For The Issuance And Sale Of Notes In The Maximum Principal Amount Of $2,800,000, In Anticipation Of The Issuance Of Bonds, For The Purpose Of Paying The Costs Of The Meadows Infrastructure Project Including Constructing, Reconstructing, Extending, Opening, Improving, Widening, Grading, Draining And Changing The Lines Of Municipal Roads, Streets And Highways, Installing Curbs, Sidewalks And Landscaping, Installing, Improving And Relocating Street Lighting, Traffic Signalization And Electrical Lines, And Constructing, Reconstructing, Extending And Improving Storm Sewers And Culverts, Water And Sanitary Sewer Lines In Connection Therewith, And Acquiring Any Necessary Real Property And Interests Therein In Connection Therewith, Together With All Necessary Appurtenances Thereto. (second reading)]

UP IS ITEM 11 E.

ITEM 11 E.

AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF NOTES AND THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPLE AMOUNT OF $2,800,000 IN ANTICIPATION OF THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE COST OF THE MEADOWS INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT, INCLUDING CONSTRUCTING, RECONSTRUCTING, EXTENDING, OPENING, IMPROVING WIDENING, GRADING, DRAINING AND CHANGING THE LINES OF MUNICIPAL ROAD STREETS AND HIGHWAYS, STALLING CURBS, SIDEWALKS AND LANDSCAPING STALLING, IMPROVING AND RELOCATING STREET LIGHTING TRAFFIC, SIGNALIZATION AND ELECTRICAL LINES, AND CONSTRUCTING, RECONSTRUCTING, EXTENDING AND IMPROVING STORM SEWERS AND CULVERTS WATER AND SANITARY SEWER LINES IN CONNECTION THERE WITH AND ACQUIRING ANY NECESSARY REAL PROPERTY AND INTEREST THERE.

AND IN CONNECTION THERE WITH, TOGETHER WITH ALL NECESSARY PANCE IS THERE TO AT THE SECOND READING, GREG.

SO, UM, I'VE GOTTA PUT SOME NUMBERS TOGETHER.

SORRY, I JUST GOT THIS ABOUT THREE 30 BEFORE OUR MEETING.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE MEADOWS INFRASTRUCTURE IS 2.8 MILLION, UM, TOTAL.

THEN WE HAVE, UH, THE WATER.

WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE WATER WELL STUFF YET.

YEAH.

2.8 MILLION.

LOOKS LIKE THE TOTAL PROJECT COST.

WORKS SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT THE ITEM THIS EVENING.

AND AS WHAT IT SAYS, MR. AUDREY POINTED OUT SOME OF THESE NOTES, INCLUDING THE REFUNDING OF OTHER NOTES.

SO NOT ALL OF THIS IS NEW ADDITIONAL BOND MONEY BECAUSE THIS IS REFUNDING OF SOME OTHERS.

IS THERE A MOTION, NANCY, MOVE TO A ADOPT.

OKAY, SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION.

TO SUPPORT, AND BRIAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, OF THE MEADOWS PROPERTY OF, OF WHAT ITEMS IN, IN THE MEADOW? UM, ALL I'M AWARE OF IS, IS POTENTIALLY APARTMENTS.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, GLENN? UH, MR. Z? THE, THIS 2.8 MILLION IT SAYS FOR PAYING COSTS OF, UM, UM, BASICALLY TO, TO SUMMARIZE INFRASTRUCTURE IN HERE.

INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT WHAT? UH,

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ANYTHING ELSE? BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE A SO AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT WE ARE DISCUSSING ONLY A MULTI-FAMILY PRODUCT, UH, ONLY A MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT, WHICH WE HAVE PLANNED A BRIEFING FOR COUNCIL AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? MRS. KITCHEN? NO.

MOTION PASSES FIVE TO FOUR.

[ An Ordinance Providing For The Issuance And Sale Of Notes In The Maximum Principal Amount Of $5,800,000, In Anticipation Of The Issuance Of Bonds, For The Purpose Of Paying The Costs Of Improving The City’s Municipal Waterworks System By Constructing And Installing Water Lines, Constructing A New Water Well, And Acquiring Any Necessary Real Property And Interests Therein In Connection Therewith, All Together With The Necessary Appurtenances Thereto. (second reading)]

NEXT IS ITEM 11 F.

ITEM 11 F AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF NOTES AND THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPLE AMOUNT, $5,800,000 IN ANTICIPATION OF THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE COST OF IMPROVING THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL WATER WORK SYSTEM BY CONSTRUCTING AND INSTALLING WATER LINES, CONSTRUCTING A NEW WATER WELL AND ACQUIRING ANY NECESSARY REAL PROPERTY AND INTEREST THEREIN IN CONNECTION THERE WITH, ALTOGETHER WITH THE NECESSARY OF PCES THERE TOO.

AT THE SECOND READING, RICK COMMENTS? UH, JIM TELLS ME THAT 3.1 MILLION, UH, IS GOING TO BE DEDICATED TO THE, UH, WATER WELL AND THEN 2.8 MILLION ADVANCE TO GET, UH, THE WATER PROJECTS, UH, DONE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

IS THERE A MOTION, NANCY? MOVE TO ADOPT.

IS THERE A SECOND? KATE? SECOND.

UH, 8.4 MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, ANITA? THIS ONE I WILL BE VOTING FOR.

WE OWE THE CITIZENS WATER AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS WORKING PROPERLY.

SO THIS ONE WILL BE A GO WITH ME.

ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, MR. WEBB? YES.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO AND NEXT SAYS

[ An Ordinance Providing For The Issuance And Sale Of Notes In The Maximum Principal Amount Of $3,235,000, In Anticipation Of The Issuance Of Bonds, For The Purpose Of Paying The Costs Of Improving The City’s Facilities By Constructing, Furnishing And Equipping A New Building To House The City Council Chambers, A Senior Services Facility And Other Administrative Purposes, Including Landscaping, Site Improvements, Any Necessary Utility Improvements, Constructing Related Parking Facilities, And Acquiring Any Necessary Real Property And Interests Therein In Connection Therewith, All Together With The Necessary Appurtenances Thereto. (second reading)]

ITEM 11 G.

AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF NOTES AND THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPLE AMOUNT OF $3,235,000 IN ANTICIPATION OF THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE COST OF IMPROVING THE CITY'S FACILITIES BY CONSTRUCTING, FURNISHING AND EQUIPPING A NEW BUILDING TO HOUSE THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, A SENIOR SERVICE, SENIOR SERVICES FACILITY, AND OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE PURPOSES, INCLUDING LANDSCAPING SITE IMPROVEMENTS, ANY NECESSARY UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS, CONSTRUCTING RELATED PARKING FACILITIES, AND ACQUIRING ANY NECESSARY REAL PROPERTY AND INTEREST THERE AND IN CONNECTION THERE WITH ALTOGETHER WITH THE NECESSARY APP.

IMPORTANCE.

IS THERE TOO AT THE SECOND READING? RICK, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S $550,000 FOR DESIGN OF THE GOVERNANCE CENTER.

UM, THIS FIRST CHUNK IS FOR PROPERTY ACQUISITION AND DESIGN COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION THAT THE WORK SESSION WAS TO ADOPT THIS EVENING.

IS THERE A MOTION KATE? MOVE TO ADOPT.

THERE A SECOND.

DON.

I WILL.

SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? CUTTING.

TO FOUR? MY VOTE IS YES.

MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO FOUR.

[ A Motion To Appoint Andy Hill To The Parks And Recreation Board For A Term Ending March 31, 2026.]

NEXT UP IS UNDER ITEM 12 UNDER NEW BUSINESS 12.

A ITEM 12 A.

A MOTION TO APPOINT ANDY HILL TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD FOR A TERM REMAINING MARCH 31ST, 2026.

ATTORNEY ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? UH, JUST AS DISCUSSED, THIS IS AN APPOINTMENT TO A CURRENT VACANCY ON THIS BOARD, AND I WOULD ASK FOR COUNSEL'S APPROVAL.

IS ITEM 12 B, ITEM 12 B, A RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2 0 1 7 DASH R DASH 6 5 10 TO ADOPT REVISIONS REGARDING SPECIAL LIAISONS TO THE BOARD AND COMMISSION HANDBOOK FOR THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS.

AND THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE PREVIOUS WORK SESSION WAS TO APPOINT MR. HILL.

NANCY? YEAH.

MOVE TO APPROVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY.

YES, I MOVE TO ADOPT MOTION.

AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION MS. BAKER? YES.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ONE.

NEXT UP

[ A Resolution Amending Resolution No. 2017-R-6510 To Adopt Revisions Regarding Special Liaisons To The Board And Commission Handbook For The City Of Huber Heights. (first reading)]

FIRST READ TONY, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? UH, JUST AS DISCUSSED AT THE WORK SESSION.

THIS IS A MODIFICATION RECOMMENDED BY THE LAW DIRECTOR TO, UH, CODIFY AND SPECIFY, UH, THE ELEMENTS OF SPECIAL LIAISONS TO THE CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

THANKS, TONY.

THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR A MOTION TO, SO I'LL MOVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? NANCY?

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UP IS ITEM 12 C, ITEM 12 C, A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2023 BY THE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A PROPOSED TAX INCREMENT FINANCING INCENTIVE DISTRICT TO BE ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO, UNDER OHIO REVISED CODE SECTION 5 7 0 9 4 0 C.

YOU HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MR. CAMPBELL? YES.

MOTION ALSO CARRIES SEVEN TO ONE.

[ A Public Hearing Scheduled For September 25, 2023 By The Huber Heights City Council Regarding A Proposed Tax Increment Financing Incentive District To Be Established By The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio Under Ohio Revised Code Section 5709.40(C).]

AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2023 BY THE HEAT OF RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A PROPOSED TAX INCREMENT FINANCING INCENTIVE DISTRICT TO BE ESTABLISHED BY STATE RIVER HEIGHTS, OHIO, UNDER A OHIO REVISED CODE.

SECTION 5 7 0 9 0.40 IS NOW OPEN.

I WOULD CALL ON OUR CITY STAFF TO MAKE THEIR INITIAL PRESENTATION.

BRIAN, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UH, TO, UH, COUNSEL, UH, AND TO THE CITIZENS, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

UH, WOULD LIKE TO BRING YOU, UH, UP TO SPEED ON WHERE WE ARE TODAY, UH, WITH THE FORMATION OF THE, UH, HEATHER MEIR TWO TIFF DISTRICT.

UH, THIS IS A REQUIRED PROCEEDING UNDER THE, UH, OHIO REVISED CODE.

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE JUST MOMENTARILY.

SO, JUST REAL QUICK, FOR FOLKS WHO MIGHT NOT KNOW WHAT A, UH, TIFF OR A TAX INCREMENT FINANCE DISTRICT IS, UH, TAX INCREMENT FINANCING IS A WAY IN WHICH LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE OF OHIO CAN CAPTURE, UH, THE GROWTH OR THE NEW, UH, TAX DOLLAR THROUGH CERTAIN PROJECTS, UH, THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE GO TO OTHER JURISDICTIONS WITHIN, UH, THE COUNTY.

UH, AND WE KEEP THOSE DOLLARS HERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE INVEST THOSE BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITY, UH, UP TO A 30 YEAR PERIOD.

UH, AS I REFERRED TO EARLIER, TAX INCREMENT FINANCE DISTRICTS ARE AUTHORIZED BY THE, UH, OHIO REVISED CODE, UH, AND ARE ACTUALLY UTILIZED, UH, BY THE MAJORITY OF STATES.

UH, IN THE UNITED STATES.

TIF MONIES ARE GENERALLY INVESTED HERE IN OHIO IN THINGS NOT PEOPLE.

SO WE UTILIZE THESE DOLLARS TO REINVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY AND TO SUPPORT, UH, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ACTUALLY GENERATING THE REVENUE, UH, THAT WE'LL BE CAPTURING.

AND THEN HERE, UH, FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROPOSED DISTRICT, UH, THE DISTRICT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A 30 YEAR NON-SCHOOL TIFF.

IN OTHER WORDS, UM, OF ANY OF THE JURISDICTIONS WHICH COULD BE AFFECTED OR COULD BE IMPACTED, UH, THE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL NOT BE IMPACTED.

THEY WILL BE CONTINUING TO RECEIVE, UH, THE FULL VALUE OF THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE GENERATED FROM THIS PARTICULAR DISTRICT.

UH, LET'S SEE.

UH, SO HOW DOES A TAX INCREMENT FINANCE DISTRICT WORK? HOW DO T WORK? UH, THIS GRAPHIC KIND OF ILLUSTRATES EFFECTIVELY, UH, HOW, UH, THESE DISTRICTS WORK IN A VERY SIMPLISTIC WAY.

SO WHAT YOU HAVE COMING ACROSS THE BOTTOM ON THE HORIZON OR ON THE HORIZONTAL ACCESS IN BLUE, UH, THAT'S THE BASE VALUE, OR IN THIS INSTANCE, UH, IT'S THE VALUE OF THE LAND, UH, WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO OCCUR.

NOW THAT BLUE VALUE, UH, IS DISTRIBUTED TO ALL JURISDICTIONS, UH, OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS, THE WAY THAT IT'S CURRENTLY, UH, BEING COLLECTED.

UH, WHAT CHANGES THOUGH IS THAT A YELLOW TRIANGLE.

SO THAT IS, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT AS IT GROWS OVER TIME.

UH, AND WE COLLECT THE VALUE OF, OF THOSE DOLLARS, AND WE KEEP THOSE HERE, UH, IN CER HEIGHTS.

AND THEN AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, IN THIS INSTANCE, UH, 30 YEARS, UH, THOSE, UH, FUNDS ARE THEN THOSE TAX DOLLARS BEGIN, UH, BEING REDISTRIBUTED TO THE, UH, ORIGINAL TAXING JURISDICTION STARTING IN YEAR 31.

AND THAT'S THE, UH, THAT'S THE ORANGE PORTION OF THIS, UH, OF THIS TRIANGLE HERE THAT YOU SEE, UH, THAT, UH, GRAPHICALLY DEMONSTRATES TAX INCREMENT FINANCING.

UH, THE PROJECT IN QUESTION, UH, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS HEATHER MEIR TWO, UH, IT'S ALSO KNOWN AS HEATHER MEIR WOODS.

DEPENDING UPON, UH, WHERE YOU, UH, FIRST CAME ACROSS THIS PROJECT, WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS HERE AT CITY COUNCIL, WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, THIS PROJECT'S LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF KITTRIDGE AND BELL FOUNTAIN ROAD.

UH, AND IT WAS APPROVED TO BY THE CITY IN ITS DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN BACK ON APRIL 14TH IN 2020.

THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF 120 TOWN HOMES.

UH, IT'S A RYAN AND VR PRODUCT, UH, AND THE TOTAL ASSESSED VALUE IS ESTIMATED AT, UH, 26.2 UH, MILLION DOLLARS.

UH, AND THAT, UH, UH, NUMBER IS ON THE LOW.

AND THAT IS A, UH, UH, PRE ESCALATION NUMBER, UH, A PRE POST COVID REAL ESTATE NUMBER.

SO, UM, THAT NUMBER, UH, IN ACTUALITY WILL BE, UH, WILL BE HIGHER ONCE IMPLEMENTED.

UM, THIS IS A PROCESS WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT IS THE, UH, BOLDED ITALIC COMPONENT.

UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING THAT IS REQUIRED BY STATUTE, UH, AND, UH, IT IS THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE, WHICH WOULD FORMALLY ESTABLISH THE DISTRICT.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS TIMELINE, UH, WE ACTUALLY GO BACK QUITE A BIT, UH, TILL JUNE, UH, WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS.

AND WE BROUGHT FORWARD, UH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

AND WE, UH, HAD TO, TO MEET SOME, UH, STATUTORY

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NOTICES TO OUR TAXING PARTNERS, UH, AND OUR, OUR OTHER GOVERNMENTAL JURISDICTION.

SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT PLAN HERE IN JUST A MOMENT.

SO, UM, UNLIKE, UH, OH, EXCUSE ME.

SO THE HEATHER MEIR DISTRICT, UH, IS THIS AREA OUTLINED IN PINK UNDER STATE STATUTE.

THEY, UH, TIFF DISTRICTS, UH, ARE REQUIRED TO BE A ROUND OR APPROXIMATELY 300 PLUS ACRES, UM, IN SIZE, UH, AND, UH, UM, TYPICALLY THEY CAN BE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.

BUT, UH, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, AND THAT'S OUR CASE HERE.

UH, SO WE INCLUDE THE AREA, UM, LIKE I SAID, AT THE INTERSECTION OF KITTRIDGE AND, UH, BELL FOUNTAIN, UH, BUT THEN WE ALSO PICK UP SOME PROPERTY ALONG, UH, BRANT PIKE AND THEN TOM CLOUD PARK AS WELL.

AND WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT HERE IN JUST A MINUTE.

THE DISTRICT CONCLUDES 381 PARCELS.

THOSE 381, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS WERE ALL PROVIDED NOTICE VIA FIRST CLASS MAIL, UH, ABOUT TONIGHT'S, UH, HEARING.

UH, SO THAT IS THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT.

UNLIKE, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS WE TYPICALLY HOLD HERE, THERE IS NO, UH, PUBLICATION REQUIREMENT IN A, UH, IN A PAPER OF GENERAL CIRCULATION WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, AS I REFERRED TO EARLIER, THIS IS A 30 YEAR TIF, UH, THAT DOES NOT AFFECT HUB HEIGHTS CITY SCHOOLS.

UH, AND DURING THE TERM OF ITS EXISTENCE, WE ESTIMATE THAT IT WILL GENERATE, UH, 60, EXCUSE ME, $6.9 MILLION, UH, IF NOT MORE.

UH, AND THIS PARTICULAR DISTRICT WILL GO INTO EFFECT, UH, FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2024 OR WHAT WOULD BE TAX YEAR 2023.

UH, SO I'D SPOKEN EARLIER ABOUT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN COUNCIL.

I ACTUALLY PASSED THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN BACK IN JUNE, UM, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE TYPO, BUT IT'S ORDINANCE, UH, 23 OH, UH, 25 88, UH, IS THE LEGISLATION THAT ACTUALLY ADOPTED THE, UM, THE, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

AND THE PLAN BREAKS DOWN THREE PRIORITIES ON WHICH THIS MONEY CAN BE SPENT.

UH, THE FIRST PRIORITY ARE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, UH, BETWEEN HEATHER MEIR, UH, AND TOM CLOUD PARK.

UH, TOM CLOUD PARK REPRESENTS THE, UH, NEAREST RECREATIONAL AMENITY TO THAT SUBDIVISION.

AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, WE'VE GOT A VERY UNIQUE INTERSECTION CONFIGURATION AT, UH, KITTRIDGE AND, UM, UH, IN BELL FOUNTAIN.

AND THEN, UH, WE'VE GOT A VERY BUSY INTERSECTION THERE AT, UH, AT BRANT AND, UH, AND KITTRIDGE, UH, AND AS SEVERAL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL CAN ATTEST TO, UM, IN PARTICULAR, UM, I KNOW A, A CHAMPION, UH, MS. BURGE OF SOME OF THE PEDESTRIAN ISSUES AND SAFETY MATTERS THAT ARE IN THAT AREA.

SO, UH, THIS PROJECT WILL PUT FUNDING TO ADDRESSING THOSE PARTICULAR ISSUES AND THOSE ITEMS. UH, BUT ONCE WE GET PEOPLE TO THE PARK, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE, UH, THE APPROPRIATE AND, UH, COMPLIMENTARY AMENITIES, UH, TO SUPPORT, UH, THEIR RECREATIONAL NEEDS AND THOSE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE DISTRICT.

UH, SO PRIORITY NUMBER TWO OF THIS PARTICULAR TIF DISTRICT, UM, AND THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN ARE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO TOM CLOUD PARK.

AND THEN LAST, SHOULD THERE BE ANY FUNDS AVAILABLE, UM, BEYOND THE COMMITMENTS AND PRIORITIES ONE AND PRIORITIES TWO, UH, THE INFORMATION, OR EXCUSE ME, THE, UM, REVENUES THAT WOULD BE LEFT AVAILABLE, UH, COULD BE DEDICATED TO, UH, LIMITED STREET WATER, SEWER, AND STORM SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE ADDRESSED IN THE CITYWIDE INFRASTRUCTURE RELIANCE STUDY FROM L J B, UH, THAT WAS COMMISSIONED EARLY IN 2022.

UH, THIS WOULD AFFECT, UH, LIMITED INFRASTRUCTURE IN WARD 6, 5, 4, AND ONE.

UM, AGAIN, UH, TONIGHT, UH, WE'RE ALMOST DONE.

UH, WE ARE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THEN, UH, LATER ON IN THIS MEETING, A FEW MINUTES FROM NOW, WE WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL, UH, ADOPT, EXCUSE ME, UH, WOULD ENTERTAIN THE FIRST READING, UH, OF THE ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH, UH, THIS PARTICULAR DISTRICT.

UH, AND THEN THAT WOULD SET IN MOTION, UH, THE SECOND AND FINAL ADOPTION FOR THE, UH, FOR THE OCTOBER 9TH MEETING, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION.

UH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE, UH, ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR, FOR BRIAN GLENN.

UH, BRIAN, YOU SAID IT'S A NON-SCHOOL TIFF, AND, AND IT STATED THAT IT WOULD HAVE NO EFFECT ON THE SCHOOLS, CORRECT? ON A ER HEIGHT CITY SCHOOLS? THAT IS CORRECT.

SO DO, UM, UM, SO ONCE THE, THE HOUSES START BEING BUILT, LIKE, LIKE WHEN A DEVELOPMENT POPS UP, HOUSES START POPPING UP, AS SOON AS THEY GET ON THE COUNTY'S ROLLS, THEY START GETTING HIT WITH THE PROPERTY TAXES AND THEN THAT MONEY GETS SHUFFLED OUT TO ITS APPROPRIATE SOURCES AND STUFF THAT WOULD, THAT'LL STILL HAPPEN, RIGHT? SO AS THESE ARE BUILT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SCHOOLS RECEIVED MORE THAN JUST WHAT THEY WERE GETTING FOR THE BEAR LAND? THAT IS CORRECT.

HUBER HEIGHT CITY SCHOOLS WILL, YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

SO THE, EXCUSE ME, THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHT SCHOOLS ARE ESTIMATED TO COLLECT, UH, FROM THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT OVER THE 30 YEAR PERIOD, UH, THEY WILL RECEIVE $13.3 MILLION AND THAT NUMBER WOULD BE IDENTICAL ADDITIVE? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DON? BRIAN? IS THERE ANY, UM, IMPACT OR, UH, ANYTHING IN A PROPERTY OWNER THERE WOULD NOTICE WITH REGARD TO A THEFT? IN OTHER WORDS, TO A PROPERTY OWNER, ARE THEY AFFECTED AT ALL BY, UH, THE IMPACT OF A TIFF? NO.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, UM, THEIR TAX BILL WILL LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME TO THEM AS IF THEY WERE NOT, IF THE TIF WERE NEVER IN PLACE.

UH, WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS, UM, ABSENT THE TIF THERE, ONE CHECK GOES TO MONTGOMERY COUNTY AND THEN MONTGOMERY COUNTY THEN TURNS AROUND AND SUBDIVIDES AND DISTRIBUTES THAT BACK, UH, TO THE JURISDICTIONS UNDER A TAX INCREMENT FINANCE DISTRICT.

THE COUNTY THEN SENDS ALL THE MONEY TO US AND WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION THEN TO TURN AROUND AND DISTRIBUTE BACK OUT TO THE DISTRICT OR TO THE VARIOUS TAXING ENTITIES, THEIR PROPORTIONATE SHARE.

SO IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, THE HOMEOWNERS DON'T REALIZE OR DON'T RECOGNIZE THAT THEIR MONEY IS FUNNELING TO THE CITY AND WE ARE DISTRIBUTING IT, BUT THE, IT'S THE TO SAME TOTAL AMOUNT.

SURE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YES.

AND TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND, AND MR. OTTO'S COMMENT IS, IT WOULD BE THE SAME WITH OR WITHOUT THE TIFF, BUT THE ADVANTAGE OF THE TIFF IS THAT WE KEEP MORE MONEY IN THE CITY.

WE CAPTURE DOLLARS FROM, UM, MONTGOMERY COUNTY.

THE BULK OF THE MONEY THAT WE'LL CAPTURE IS FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY.

THEN, UM, OUR FUNDS ARE ALSO, UM, THE TAX REVENUES THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY COLLECT.

UH, THEN WE RECEIVE A PORTION OF TAX, UH, THAT GOES TO, UH, SINCLAIR COMMUNITY COLLEGE.

UH, WE RECEIVE, UM, NO, UH, REVENUES ASSOCIATED WITH THE, UH, CAREER TECHNICAL CENTER.

UH, THERE IS SOME PRE, I BELIEVE IT IS 2005, UH, MILLAGE FROM THE LIBRARY AND FROM METRO PARKS THAT WE RECEIVE.

SO WE DO RECEIVE A SMALL PORTION FROM BOTH THOSE, UH, ORGANIZATIONS, BUT THE BULK OF THE MONEY THAT WE ARE KEEPING HERE, UH, IS MONEY THAT WOULD OTHERWISE GO TO MONTGOMERY COUNTY.

UH, BRIAN, YOU, YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT OVER THE 30 YEARS THIS WILL GARNER THE CITY $6.9 MILLION.

I WOULD BET MY LAST BUFFALO NICKEL WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THAT FULL $6.9 MILLION IN ONE CHECK.

SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE, ARE WE GONNA GET THAT? WHAT IS THAT GONNA BE FRONT LOADED OR BACK LOADED? SO IT'S NEITHER IT COMES IN ANNUALLY.

SO AS THE HOMES DEVELOP, AS THE PROPERTIES DEVELOP, UM, WE WOULD RECEIVE THE TAX PORTION OVER TIME.

SO IF, SO OBVIOUSLY ONE, ONE COULD ASSUME WITHIN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS WE'RE NOT GONNA RECEIVE AS MUCH AS WE'RE GOING TO GET IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

SO IT'S BACK LOADED BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET AS MUCH IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS.

WE'RE GONNA GET MORE IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS YES.

WHEN THE PROJECT, YES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU BRIAN.

NEXT I'D CALL OUR LAW DIRECTOR, UH, TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF YOU HAVE ANY.

NO, IT'S GOOD.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

NEXT I'D ASK, IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF OR APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE? OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS ISSUE? OKAY.

SO NEXT SLIDE.

CALL MEMBERS OF THE HE RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF YOU HAVE ANYONE.

AND IS THERE A REPORT FROM COUNCIL FROM THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION ON THIS ISSUE? AND I BELIEVE THAT POLICE AND BRIAN'S PRESENTATION, SOME OF THAT WAS THERE, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE WORK SESSION? UM, YES.

MARK COMMENTS.

BRIAN, IF THE PROPERTY TAXES REMAIN THE SAME OVER THE 30 YEAR PERIOD FOR A RESIDENCE AND WE COLLECTED THE PORTION THAT THE COUNTY SENDS BACK TO US, HOW WOULD THAT CHANGE FROM THE FIRST FIVE YEARS OF THE SECOND FIVE YEARS OF THE THIRD FIVE YEARS AND SO ON? UM, WOULDN'T WE COLLECT OUR PRORATED AMOUNT BASED ON THE COUNTY'S PORTION? CORRECT.

SO WE'RE GONNA COLLECT AS MUCH PROPERTY TAX ONCE THE BUILD OUT HAS OCCURRED EACH FIVE YEAR PERIOD, CORRECT? YEAH.

IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

WE'RE NOT GONNA COLLECT MORE THAN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS UNLESS THE PROPERTY VALUES GO UP AND THE TAXES GO UP.

WE CURRENTLY RECEIVE, UH, HERE WE ARE 6 CENTS OUT OF EVERY DOLLAR, EVERY, EVERY TAX DOLLAR THAT'S PAID THE CITY DOES AND IN 30 YEARS.

SECOND, IF UH, IT WASN'T TIFFED, HOW MUCH FOR EVERY DOLLAR OF PROPERTY TAX THAT THAT RESIDENTS PAY WOULD WE COLLECT? WE CURRENTLY, BASED ON, UH, THIS MODEL, UH,

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AND, AND WE'RE GONNA GET THAT PRORATED OVER A 30 YEAR PERIOD.

HOW DOES THAT DIFFER? SO IF WE ONLY GET THAT 6 CENTS PER DOLLAR COMPARED TO THE 6.9 MILLION, HOW, HOW WOULD THAT DIFFER? SURE.

SO THE, THE GROSS AMOUNT, SO THE TOTAL RECEIPTS THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE THROUGH THE TIF IS $6.59 MILLION OF THAT $6.59 MILLION, 1.39 OF THAT IS OUR MONEY ANYWAY.

THAT IS OUR LOCAL TAX DOLLAR THAT WOULD COME TO US ANYWAY.

SO THE TOTAL NET BENEFIT TO THE CITY, THE TOTAL NET REVENUES TO THE CITY IS $5.2 MILLION.

THAT'S THE MONEY THAT WOULD GO TO OTHER JURISDICTIONS, NOTABLY THE COUNTY.

IF WE DID NOT HAVE THIS, UH, IF WE DID NOT PUT THIS TIF DISTRICT IN PLACE AND NEIGHBORS AROUND THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHAT WILL THEY NOTICE DIFFERENT ABOUT THAT DEVELOPMENT AND HOW THEY INTERACT WITH IT? IF IT'S TIFFED OR IT'S NOT TIFFED, THERE'LL BE NO DIFFERENCE.

UM, THE ONLY BENEFIT, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT ALL THE NEIGHBORS WILL BENEFIT FROM THE DISTRICT BECAUSE IT WILL BE ABLE TO FUND THE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS AND THE AMENITIES TO TOM CLOUD PARK.

UH, WHICH WE WOULDN'T OTHERWISE BE.

WELL, I SHOULDN'T SAY WE OTHERWISE, WHICH WOULD TAKE US SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER IF WE DID NOT HAVE THE TIF DISTRICT BECAUSE WE WOULD BE ABSENT THIS $5 MILLION.

UM, BRIAN, I JUST WANT TO, UM, RE-CLARIFY 'CAUSE I I HEARD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ANSWERS.

UM, SO THE ASSUMPTION WOULD BE, UM, THE FIRST FIVE YEARS IS GONNA BE A SLOW BUILDING PROCESS AS THEY GET UP AND RUNNING.

UH, SO THIS 5.2 MILLION NET, UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA RECEIVE A LARGE CHUNK OF THAT IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT GONNA BE THAT MANY HOUSES.

SO YES, IT, YES, IT GROWS OVER TIME.

THAT IS CORRECT.

GROW GROWS OVER TIME.

SO ONE WOULD, UH, THINK THAT BETWEEN YEAR 25 AND 30 WHEN IT'S A FULL BUILD OUT AND DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S WHEN WE'RE GONNA SEE A LARGER PIECE OF THAT FROM YEAR ONE.

SO IF IT'S A THREE YEAR BUILD OUT, WHICH I BELIEVE IS WHAT IT WAS PROPOSED, THAT THE, THE TAX BEGINNING IN YEAR FOUR OKAY.

WILL BE AT THE SAME VALUE ABSENT INFLATION FROM YEAR FOUR THROUGH YEAR 30.

THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.

SO IT'S GONNA TAKE US AT LEAST FOUR YEARS TO GET TO THAT AMOUNT.

SO IN YEAR FOUR, IF THEY BUILD ON SCHEDULE, WE WILL HAVE MAXIMIZED OUR REVENUE UNDER THE TEST, ABSENT INFLATION.

PERFECT.

AND, AND, AND AGAIN, ABSENT, FINGERS CROSSED ANY POTENTIAL RECESSION.

UM, BRIAN, THE, UH, THE, THE ADDITIONAL MONIES THAT WE PULL FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY, THE 5.2 MILLION, THAT EXTRAS, UM, IS THAT JUST LIKE GENERAL FUND MONEY THAT THEY GET IN THAT JUST GOES TO ANYTHING? OR IS THAT EARMARKED FOR SPECIFIC PROGRAMMING? UM, THERE WOULD BE, UM, A MULTITUDE OF, I SHOULDN'T SAY A MULTITUDE, BUT YES, THERE ARE.

UM, THERE'S THE GENERAL FUND, THERE'S HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, UH, AND THEN, UH, THEY BREAK IT OUT FOR THE METRO PARKS IN THE LIBRARY, WHICH WASN'T ALWAYS PREVIOUSLY THE CASE, BUT THEY DO NOW WITHIN THE TAX TABLES.

SO THESE ARE MONIES THAT, UM, TAXPAYERS HAVE APPROVED, HAVE PROVEN OR APPROVED THROUGH THE BALLOT BOX FOR THE COUNTY TO COLLECT, TO PUT INTO SAID PROGRAMS. IT DEPENDS ON WHICH TAXING ORGANIZATION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ON WHAT IS TIF ELIGIBLE? WHAT MILLAGE RATES ARE TIF ELIGIBLE BASED ON WHEN THEY WERE ADOPTED.

SO I BELIEVE IT IS IN TWO, ANY TAX THAT WAS LEVIED BY THE COUNTY, THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE, THE JOINT VOCATIONAL OR NOT, THE JOINT VOCATIONAL SCHOOL, THE LIBRARY AND METRO PARKS PRIOR TO 2005 IS ELIGIBLE TO BE TIFFED.

ANY MEASURE THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED AFTER 2005 FOR THOSE ENTITIES IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PART OR TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE TIF DISTRICT.

SO THOSE JURISDICTIONS HAVE SOME OF THEIR MONEY, UH, COLLECTED BY HUBER HEIGHTS IN THIS, IN THIS PROPOSED DISTRICT, BUT NOT ALL OF THEIR MONEY IN THIS PARTICULAR DISTRICT.

MR. OTTO, THAT WE'RE NOT PULLING MONEY FROM THOSE DISTRICTS BECAUSE THE MONEY THAT WE'RE CAPTURING IS MONEY THEY'RE NOT RECEIVING YET.

AND JUST, YOU KNOW, IT, I POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE IT, SOME, SOME FOLKS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS JUST LIKE FREE MONEY THAT WASN'T THERE BEFORE.

BUT TRUTH IS, IT'S MONEY THAT PEOPLE HAVE, UH, UH, VOTED TO APPROVE IN MANY CASES TO PROVIDE TWO, UH, PROGRAMS IN AND AROUND MONTGOMERY COUNTY, SUCH AS THE LIBRARY, UH, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT, THAT, THAT HELP PEOPLE.

AND, UM, WHEN TIFFS POP UP AND PULL THOSE MONIES THAT SHORTS THOSE PROGRAMS. AND I JUST, I JUST WANT THAT TO BE KNOWN.

I WOULD NOTE THOUGH,

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REMEMBER, THIS IS ALL REVENUE.

OH, I UNDERSTAND HOW THE INCREMENT PART WORKS, BUT IF WE DIDN'T DO THIS AND THE BUILD OUT OCCURRED, THEY WOULD BE GETTING EVEN MORE MONEY BECAUSE THE VALUE'S HIGHER, THEY GET THE SAME PERCENTAGE, BUT HIGHER VALUE ON THE PROPERTY SO THEY GET EVEN MORE MONEY.

ACTUALLY, YOU COULD MAKE THAT ARGUMENT, BUT THEN CONVERSELY, I WOULD NOTE THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE THAT MONEY.

AND THEN YOU AS WELL, THAT IS TO CONVERSE TO YOUR, WHAT THE ARGUMENT YOU JUST MADE, YOU AS COUNSEL MIGHT BE FORCED TO ENTERTAIN INCREASES IN FEES OR RATES OR TAXES.

OH, SURE, SURE, SURE.

SO YEAH, THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS.

YEAH.

SURE.

DO OTHER, UM, DO OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND US UTILIZE TIP DISTRICTS? UH, YES, THERE ARE SEVERAL, THERE ARE SEVERAL TO, TO WHAT EXTENT DO WE KNOW OR, UH, LET'S SEE, UH, CITY OF RIVERSIDE, CITY OF DAYTON, CITY OF VANDALIA, CITY OF KETTERING OR KETTERING CITY OF, UM, CLAYTON ENGLEWOOD ALSO UTILIZE THEM.

UH, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE, UH, ALSO SEVERAL TIFF DISTRICTS, UH, SOUTH OF TOWN, CITY OF CENTERVILLE, CITY OF MIAMISBURG.

SO WE ARE NOT THE ONLY COMMUNITY, UM, WITHIN THE REGION THAT UTILIZES THIS PARTICULAR, UM, BENEFIT PROVIDED UNDER THE OHIO REVISED CODE.

THANKS.

AND I JUST, I MEAN, I ALSO JUST KINDA WANNA BE ON THE RECORD OF SAYING THAT, THAT SO MANY COMMUNITIES AROUND ARE UTILIZING TIFF DISTRICTS AND THE NUMBER ONE REASON THEY DO THAT IS TO KEEP MORE MONEY IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'VE UTILIZED TIFFS FOR IN HUB HEIGHTS OVER THE YEARS WAS TO KEEP MORE PROPERTY, TAXPAYERS MONEY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

BECAUSE THE, THE REVERSE SIDE OF THAT IS IF WE'RE NOT, IF, IF WE'RE NOT CAPTURING THAT MONEY THROUGH A TIFF AND KEEPING IT AT ER HEIGHTS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE UTILIZING TIFFS, AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN ESSENCE IS OUR TAXPAYERS, OUR HOMEOWNERS IN ER HEIGHTS, THEY'RE GETTING, THEY'RE PAYING THEIR TAXES THAT'S GOING TO THE COUNTY.

AND THEN IN ESSENCE, THE COUNTY IS GIVING THAT MONEY TO OTHER COMMUNITIES, WHETHER OR NOT RECOUPING THAT MONEY FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES.

SO I WOULD SAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE THAT SOME OF OUR PROPERTY OWNERS AND TAXPAYERS UNION RIGHTS ARE HELPING TO FUND IMPROVEMENTS TO OTHER COMMUNITIES IF WE'RE NOT UTILIZING TIFF AND KEEPING THAT MONEY AT HOME WHERE WE SHOULD THE WAY OTHER, THE WAY OTHER COMMUNITIES DO.

SO, ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND MR. ALDO'S POINT, IT'S A POINT WELL MADE THAT YES, THOSE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS ARE DEPENDENT UPON THIS TAX DOLLARS.

BUT I ALSO KNOW IN, IN THE WORLD WE LIVE IN TODAY, EVERYBODY WANTS TO KEEP AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN.

AND IF THEY'RE PAYING THEIR TAXES, I THINK PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE, SEE THAT MONEY BE RECOUPED AND REINVESTED IN, IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY VERSUS GIVING TO THE COUNTY.

SO THE COUNTY COULD THEN LET THAT MONEY GO TO OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE UTILIZING TIPS.

AND I'D LIKE TO NOTE, MAYOR, TO YOUR COMMENT THAT THE COUNTY DOES RECEIVE A VERY SPECIFIC NOTICE FROM US AS REQUIRED BY CODE THAT WE INTEND TO ESTABLISH THIS DISTRICT SO THAT THEY HAVE AN ABILITY TO OBJECT IF THEY FEEL THAT THIS MONEY IS NECESSARY FOR THEM TO OPERATE THEIR ORGANIZATION THE WAY THAT THEY SEE FIT.

THANKS RYAN FOR CLARIFICATION.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? YES, RICHARD, JUST ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION.

BRIAN, I THINK YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR SLIDES THERE'S GONNA BE THREE PRIORITIES THAT THIS TIFF IS GOING TO COVER.

UM, I BELIEVE SOME TRANSFER OR SOME SIDEWALK ISSUES, UH, CLOUD PARK AND INFRASTRUCTURE ARE THOSE THREE.

UM, WHAT ARE SOME OTHER THINGS, JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, THAT TIFS COULD GO FOR? COULD THEY GO FOR, UM, LIKE A, LIKE A NEW CITY HALL, LIKE A FIRE STATION, THINGS LIKE THAT? CAN THEY GO FOR STAFFING LIKE NEW POLICE OFFICERS? UH, AS I POINTED OUT IN THE PRESENTATION, THE TAX AGREEMENT FINANCING, UH, IS FOR STUFF FOR THINGS.

STUFF, STUFF, YES.

SO NOT PEOPLE.

SO TECHNICALLY IF, IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET THOSE FUNDS THAT WERE GENERALLY ROUTED IN OUR CITY, LET'S SAY TO THE PARKS, UM, THAT THIS COUNCIL BUDGETED, INSTEAD OF NORMALLY PUTTING THAT MONEY IN THE PARKS, WE COULD THEN FUNNEL THAT MONEY THROUGH OUR BUDGETARY PROCESS TO PERSONNEL.

WHICH IS WHY WE'VE PUT TOGETHER THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE RELIANCE STUDY, UH, AND WE'LL BE PROPOSING ADDITIONAL TAX INCREMENT FINANCE DISTRICTS IN THE FUTURE FOR THE EXPRESS PURPOSE OF BEING ABLE TO CAPTURE THESE DOLLARS AND ROUTE IT TOWARDS SEVERAL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT, UH, BY COUNCIL.

DESIGNED TO BE PAID FOR THROUGH TAX INCREMENT FINANCING BY THE PROJECT THAT IT SUPPORTS.

UH, SO THAT WE CAN TAKE THE DOLLARS THAT OTHERWISE GO TO THOSE THINGS AND USE THEM TO FUND PERSONNEL OR OTHER OPERATIONAL NEEDS THAT COUNCIL HAS TALKED ABOUT.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, A FEW OF THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED, FOR INSTANCE, UM, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION EARLIER ABOUT, UM, THE MARION MEADOWS PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AT MARION MEADOWS THROUGH THAT PROJECT.

UH, THAT PROJECT IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS SPECIFICALLY

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SO IT'S NO NEW, SO THAT PROJECT REQUIRES NO TAX DOLLAR BY ANY PERSON, UM, OUTSIDE THAT DISTRICT BECAUSE WE'VE INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED IT THAT WAY.

UM, SO ALL THE EXISTING TAX DOLLARS CAN BE REROUTED AND THAT'S NO DIFFERENT IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE.

SO THOSE, SO THOSE TIF DOLLARS THAT WE'RE GETTING IN THE, THAT THE MAYOR ALLUDED TO EARLIER, UM, IS GOING TO THAT MARION MEADOWS PROJECT THAT, THAT ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE GOING TO THE COUNTY CORRECT.

PROVIDED THAT COUNSEL A APPROVES THE FINANCE MEASURE, UH, WHICH WE DID TONIGHT FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO SIGN OFF TO ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND WHEN WE PRESENT THE, UM, TIF, UM, DISTRICT FOR THAT, THEN YOU WOULD NEED TO APPROVE THAT TIF DISTRICT.

THOSE THINGS ALL HAVE TO HAPPEN IN ORDER FOR THAT PLAN TO WORK.

BUT YES, THERE IS A, A BROADER PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE PROJECTS, UH, PAY FOR THEMSELVES OR RELIEVE THE BURDEN, UH, OF EXISTING TAXPAYERS SO WE CAN REROUTE THOSE FUNDS TO OPERATIONAL NEEDS.

AND THAT PLAN THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING TO REROUTE FUNDS, THAT'S NOT A NEW PLAN? WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT.

WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ON THAT.

UH, YEAH, LIKE I SAID, THIS PARTICULAR STUDY, THIS RELIANCE STUDY GOES BACK TO, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS, UH, THE FINAL, UH, DRAFT WAS PRESENTED TO STAFF FOR UTILIZATION IN 2022.

IT WAS APPROVED BY BOND CA UH, SEPTEMBER, 2022.

IT WAS APPROVED BY BOND COUNSEL FOR, UH, INCORPORATION INTO TIF DOCUMENTS, I WANNA SAY LATER THAT YEAR, IF NOT, UH, IN EARLY 2023.

UH, BUT THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO BE ABLE TO, UH, LIKE I SAID, UM, UTILIZE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING REVENUES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE STATUTES, UH, BY SUPPORTING OUR NEEDS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PERIOD SO THAT WE CAN REALLOCATE AND BUDGET APPROPRIATELY.

UH, CORRECT.

THAT, THAT THAT'S GREAT INFORMATION.

I KNOW OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE LOOKING FOR DATA ON CERTAIN AREAS SUCH AS STAFFING FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU'VE TOLD US THAT THERE'S A WORKING PLAN IN PROCESS FOR THAT.

SO I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT ANY REVENUE THAT THE CITY GENERATES FREES UP OTHER MONIES THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND, THAT WE CAN'T ALLOCATE IN OTHER, IN OTHER PLACES.

HEAR YES.

MARK, BRIAN, UH, THIS MONEY YOU HAVE EARMARKED SOME OF IT TO BE SPENT INSIDE THOMAS CLOUD? YES.

THOMAS CLOUD WAS GIVEN TO US YES.

BY THE COUNTY, UH, I BELIEVE FOR $1.

AND IN LIEU OF MOTHBALLING IT, AS THEY INDICATED, THEY OFFERED IT TO US.

UH, THE $1 PRICE TAG WAS A MINIMAL NUMBER, I THINK THE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR COST TO MAINTAIN.

IT'S WHY THEY GAVE IT AWAY.

SO THE MONIES THAT WOULD HAVE GONE TO THE COUNTY ON THIS PROJECT, WE COULD SPEND ON UPGRADING A SPLASH PAD.

THINGS LIKE THAT ALSO.

BUT MOVING FORWARD, ABSOLUTELY.

HAVE YOU EARMARKED IN YOUR PRESENTATION, THE ENTIRE $5 MILLION BEING SPENT, UH, AT, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, ALL WE'VE DONE IS INDICATE, UM, WHAT WE ESTIMATE THE REVENUES TO BE.

WE HAVE NOT YET SPECIFICALLY ALLOCATED ANY OF THOSE REVENUES TOWARDS ANY SPECIFIC EXPENSE.

SO MAYBE MOVING FORWARD, MAYOR THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE COULD DISCUSS POSSIBILITIES LIKE THAT AS RICHARD INDICATES AS OPPORTUNITIES TO FUND OTHER PROJECTS.

SURE, ABSOLUTELY.

AND I MEAN, LOOK, I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN, AT LEAST OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS, ANY TIP THAT WAS, THAT WAS APPROVED OR DONE, AT LEAST MY ASSUMPTION BASED ON THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED AND THE DISCUSSION WE HAD, THAT MONEY WAS ALWAYS EARMARKED TOWARDS OTHER PROJECTS.

SPECIFIC ONE, REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY IS THE, THE ONE FOR LEXINGTON PLACE.

SO THAT WAS DONE AND THAT THE REVENUE THAT'S COMING OUTTA THAT WAS GONNA GO TOWARD HELPING TO WIDEN CHAMBERSBURG, HELP PUT SIDEWALKS THERE.

SO ALL THOSE IMPROVEMENTS FROM THAT PARTICULAR TIFF WAS GONNA HELP ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG CHAMBERSBURG, I THINK EVEN UP PAST THE HIGH SCHOOL TO HELP WITH SOME LIGHTING THERE OUT ACROSS FROM IT.

UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WIDENING THE, HAVING TO MAKE SURE THERE'S SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET THERE FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL.

SO YES, I MEAN, I, DURING THOSE DISCUSSIONS, I MEAN, I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT AND BELIEVED THAT WE'VE HAD VERY DETAILED DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHERE THAT MONEY WAS GONNA BE REALLOCATED FOR AND WHAT THE PURPOSE OF IT WAS FOR ANY TIF THAT, THAT, THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.

IF, I MEAN FROM AN OVERALL COUNSEL DISCUSSION, IF COUNSEL WANTS TO GIVE INPUT ON WHERE SOME OF THAT MONEY SHOULD GO, UH, ABSOLUTELY.

THANKS SIR.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.

APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION.

AND ONE LAST TIME I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF

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THIS ISSUE.

AND NEXT WE WOULD MOVE ON TO ADMINISTRATION.

SO BARRING FURTHER COMMENTS, THE PUBLIC HEARING BY THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A PROPOSED TAX INCREMENT FINANCING INCENTIVE DISTRICT TO BE ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY OF HEBREW HEIGHTS, OHIO UNDER OHIO REVISED CODE SECTION 5 7 0 9 0.40 C IS NOW HEREBY CLOSED.

PUT, PUT THAT UP

[ An Ordinance Creating A Residential Tax Increment Financing Incentive District, Declaring Improvements To The Parcels Within The Incentive District To Be A Public Purpose And Exempt From Real Property Taxation, Requiring The Owners Of Those Parcels To Make Service Payments In Lieu Of Taxes, Establishing A Municipal Public Improvement Tax Increment Equivalent Fund For The Deposit Of Those Service Payments, And Specifying The Public Infrastructure Improvements That Benefit Or Serve Parcels In The Incentive District. (first reading)]

AND WE ARE AT ITEM 12 D, CORRECT? CORRECT.

ITEM 12 D, AN ORDINANCE CREATING A RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL TAX INCREMENT FINANCING INCENTIVE DISTRICT DECLARING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PARCELS WITHIN THE INCENTIVE DISTRICT TO BE A PUBLIC PURPOSE AND EXEMPT FROM REAL PROPERTY TAXATION, REQUIRING THE OWNERS OF THOSE PARCELS TO MAKE SERVICE PAYMENTS IN LIEU OF TAXES, ESTABLISHING A MUNICIPAL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT, TAX INCREMENT EQUIVALENT FUND FOR THE DEPOSIT OF THOSE SERVICE PAYMENTS AND SPECIFYING THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT BENEFIT OR SERVE PARCELS IN THE INCENTIVE DISTRICT AT THE FIRST READING.

RICK, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NOTHING MORE.

AND THE WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO PASS THIS ITEM TO A SECOND.

READING.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ONTO A SECOND READING THIS EVENING? OKAY.

SEEING NO OBJECTION, WE'LL MOVE THIS ON TO A SECOND READING.

[ A Resolution Authorizing A Settlement In The Eminent Domain Case Regarding Wellfield Property. (first reading)]

AND NEXT IS ITEM 12 E.

ITEM 12 E A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A SETTLEMENT IN THE EMINENT DOMAIN CASE REGARDING, WELL, WELL FIELD PROPERTY AT THE FIRST READING, NOT RICK.

COMMENTS? UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY.

BRIAN, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING HERE? UH, JUST THAT, UM, UM, UH, UH, NO, I, I'M SORRY.

I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO ADD ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

I'M SORRY, I WAS TAKING MY NOTES.

MY APOLOGIES.

WORKS SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT THIS ITEM THIS EVENING.

UH, AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, IS THERE A MOTION? OKAY.

MOVE TO ADOPT.

IS THERE A SECOND? NONE.

I WILL SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? 10.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

AND NEXT

[ A Resolution Accepting The Amounts And Rates As Determined By The Budget Commission Of Montgomery County, Ohio, Authorizing The Necessary Tax Levies And Certifying Them To The Montgomery County Auditor. (first reading)]

ITEM 12 F.

ITEM 12 F A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE AMOUNTS AND RATES IS DETERMINED BY THE BUDGET COMMISSION IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY, OHIO, AUTHORIZING THE NECESSARY TAX LEVIES AND CERTIFYING THEM TO THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR AT THE FIRST TREATING.

RICK, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? NONE.

WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT THIS ITEM THIS EVENING AS WE HEARD FROM JIM DON MOVE TO ADOPT ANITA.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ATTORNEY MR. OTTO? YES.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO AS WELL.

AND NEXT UP IS

[ A Resolution Accepting The Amounts And Rates As Determined By The Budget Commission Of Miami County, Ohio, Authorizing The Necessary Tax Levies And Certifying Them To The Miami County Auditor. (first reading)]

ITEM 12 G.

ITEM 12 G A RESOLUTION ACCEPT ACCEPTING THE AMOUNTS AND RATES AS DETERMINED BY THE BUDGET COMMISSION OF MIAMI COUNTY, OHIO, AUTHORIZING THE NECESSARY TAX LEVIES AND CERTIFYING THEM TO THE MIAMI COUNTY AUDITOR AT THE FIRST RATE.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FOR NONE? WORK ACCESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION THERE.

MOTION, ANITA.

MOVE TO ADOPT.

IS THERE A SECOND, NANCY? SECOND.

AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MIAMI COUNTY PORTION? MR. LYONS? NO.

MOTION CARRIE? SEVEN TO ONE.

NEXT IS ITEM 12

[ An Ordinance Amending Certain Sections Of Part Five, General Offenses Code, Of The City Code Of Huber Heights. (first reading)]

ITEM 12 H IN ORDINANCE AMENDING CERTAIN SECTIONS OF PART FIVE GENERAL OFFENSES, CODE OF THE CITY, CODE OF HUBER HEIGHTS.

AT THE FIRST READING, RICK, UH, AS YOU HEAR FROM THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, UH, THIS MODIFICATION AS WELL AS I, UH, IS TO HELP HIM, UH, BETTER ENFORCE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODES.

ANY OBJECTION TO MOVING THIS ON TO A SECOND? READING.

RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION.

SEEING NONE.

WE'LL MOVE THIS ONTO SECOND READING.

AND NEXT IS ITEM

[ An Ordinance Amending Certain Sections Of Part Thirteen, Building Code, Of The City Code Of Huber Heights. (first reading)]

WE'LL JUST HAVE TONY READ THIS.

AND, UH, SAME RESULT.

ITEM 12 I AN ORDINANCE ADMITTING CERTAIN SECTIONS OF PART 13 BUILDING CODE OF THE CITY CODE OF HUBER HEIGHTS AT THE FIRST GRADE.

AND AS RICK COMMENTED SAID, UH, THIS WAS ALL BASED ON, UH, MR. UH, MILLARD'S PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.

AND ALSO RECOMMENDATION WAS TO PASS ITEM TO A SECOND.

READING ANY OBJECTIONS, CASE NONE.

WE'LL MOVE THIS ONTO A SECOND READING AS WELL.

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into An Agreement With Motorola Solutions, A Sole Source Vendor, To Provide Network Service And Maintenance. (first reading)]

IS ITEM 12 J.

ITEM 12 J A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH MOTOROLA SOLUTIONS, THE SOLE SOURCE VENDOR TO PROVIDE NETWORK SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE.

THE FIRST DEGREE.

RICK, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? AS THE CHIEF MENTIONED, THIS IS TO, UH, HAVE FIVE YEAR MAINTENANCE ON OUR COMPUTER AID DISPATCH.

CONSULT.

IS THERE A MOTION? NANCY? UH, I HAVE A QUESTION AFTER THE MOTION.

MOTION AND SECOND, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS.

UM, MOVE TO ADOPT.

IS THERE SECOND, GLENN? SECOND.

OR NOVEMBER 1ST? NOVEMBER 1ST, SIR.

AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ANSWER QUESTION? YEAH.

UH, DID THE CHIEF SAY THE CONTRACT EXPIRES ON OCTOBER 1ST

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UM, YOU KNOW, I, WE ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

UM, I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THIS BE MOVED TO ANOTHER READING.

RICHARD.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UM, HOLD ON TO YOUR HATS.

I'D LIKE TO SUPPORT COUNCILMAN BURGE AND HER REQUEST, AND I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT MS. BURGE AND, UH, MS. RADO WITHDRAW THEIR MOTIONS AND WE MOVE THIS TO, UH, NEXT MEETING.

MOTION AND SECOND HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.

ANY OBJECTION TO MOVING THIS ON TO A SECOND READ? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, THAT'S WHERE WE'LL SEE IT.

AND NEXT IS ITEM

[ A Resolution To Increase The Not To Exceed Amount For Civica CMI For The Purpose Of Public Safety Applications Data Storage And Access Through The Remainder Of The Motorola RMS/CAD Data Conversion For Calendar Year 2023 And Waiving The Competitive Bidding Requirements. (first reading)]

12 K.

ITEM 12 K.

A RESOLUTION TO INCREASE THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT FOR CIVICUS C M I FOR THE PURPOSE OF PUBLIC SAFETY APPLICATIONS, DATA STORAGE AND ACCESS THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE MOTOROLA R M S CAD DATA CONVERSION FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2023.

WAIVING THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS AT THE FIRST READING.

RICK COMMENTS, UH, AS THE CHIEF MENTIONED, THIS IS TO HOLD OUR DATA WHILE IT'S BEING CONVERTED.

UH, AS SOON AS THAT CONVERSION PROCESS IS COMPLETED, UM, WE CAN END THIS CONTRACT WITH C M O.

AND RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION.

IS THERE A MOTION? DON? I WILL MOVE TO AL.

IS THERE A SECOND? GLEN? SECOND.

RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? TONY.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

NEXT AS ITEM

[ A Resolution Declaring Certain City Property No Longer Needed For Municipal Purposes As Surplus And Authorizing Disposal Of Said Surplus Property. (first reading)]

12 L.

ITEM 12 L A RESOLUTION DECLARING CERTAIN CITY PROPERTY NO LONGER NEEDED FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES AS SURPLUS AND AUTHORIZING DISPOSAL OF SAID SURPLUS PROPERTY AT THE FIRST READING.

RICK, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS POLICE PROPERTY, UM, THAT THEY NEED TO DISPOSE OF.

IS THERE A MOTION, DON? YES.

SO IS THERE A SECOND, NANCY? SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ATTORNEY MR. WEBB? YES.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO AS WELL.

AND NEXT IS

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract For The Fishburg Road Widening Project. (first reading)]

ITEM 12 M.

ITEM 12 M A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR THE FISHBURG ROAD WIDENING PROJECT AT THE FIRST STREET.

RICK, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? NO MORE RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION.

GLEN.

MOTION TO ADOPT.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

WE HAVE MOTION AND SECOND AND A DISCUSSION HERE.

AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS ONE WAS TO, TO START IN, WAS IT JANUARY? I KNOW WE MARCH.

IN.

MARCH.

IT WOULD BE COMPLETED BY JUNE, IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT.

NEXT UP IS ITEM 13, CITY OFFICIAL.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ATTORNEY MR. SHAW? NO.

MOTION CARRIES SIX TO TWO.

[13. City Official Reports And Comments]

REPORTS AND COMMENTS.

ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING NANCY? UM, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR ANOTHER WONDERFUL, UM, OPEN HOUSE THIS WEEKEND.

THE TURNOUT WAS INCREDIBLE.

THEIR, UM, FEATURES THERE FOR THE KIDS WERE OUTSTANDING.

UM, AND IT WAS VERY WELL RECEIVED.

THANK YOU, NANCY.

ANYONE ELSE? ED? THANK YOU MAYOR.

UH, I WAS PLEASANTLY, UH, SURPRISED AND PLEASED TO HEAR THE POLICE CHIEF TALKING IN DETAIL AND MR. ZICK TALKING IN DETAIL ABOUT, UM, THE FIVE POLICE OFFICERS, UH, IN THE PROCESS THAT IS GOING THROUGH AND HIRING THE FIVE THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.

UM, AS I STATED PREVIOUSLY IN A, UH, WORK SESSION, UH, TO HAVE FIVE POLICE OFFICERS DOWN FOR SO MANY YEARS, UM, UH, SOMEBODY WAS PUNISHING THE POLICE OFFICERS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND I STILL HAVEN'T HEARD WHO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, NEXT UP IS, IS ITEM 14 EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AND THERE IS A NEED FOR ONE FOLLOWING THIS COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL.

TONY, WOULD YOU READ THE MOTION? YEAH.

IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER THE SALE OR OTHER DISPOSITION OF UNNEEDED PROPERTY BY COMPETITIVE BID.

IS THERE A MOTION KATE? MOVE TO ADOPT NANCY JACKET.

ANY DISCUSSION MR. CAMPBELL? YES.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

AND WHEN WE FINISH

[14. Executive Session]

EXECUTIVE SESSION, SAME THING.

WE'LL COME OUT AND MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT IF ANY ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN.

AS OF NOW, IT'S 7 34 AND WE ARE MOVING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

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GO AHEAD.