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[ AGENDA PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road September 21, 2023 6:30 P.M.]

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OKAY, THE TIME IS 6 31.

JUSTICE IS COMING AND UM, I THINK WE CAN GET READY TO START THE MEETING IF JUSTIN'S COMING IN.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL GET READY FOR A ROLL CALL WHENEVER YOU'RE READY THERE, CHRIS.

ALRIGHT, WE'RE READY.

ALEX BLACK.

PRESENT HERE.

JUSTICE.

JUSTICE BONOFF.

PRESENT.

BRIAN? HERE.

CHRISTOPHER HALL? HERE.

BLAKE STEIN? HERE.

GLENN POTER.

SIDNEY SMITH.

DENNIS SNYDER.

HERE.

RON EIFFERT.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO UH, OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, CHRIS THERE TO ACCEPT THE ABSENTEES.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ALRIGHT, MOVED.

AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALRIGHT.

ANY OPPOSED? NONE THAT IT BE SO, ALRIGHT, I HAVE NO OPENING COMMENTS, SO WE'LL GO RIGHT ON THROUGH THE MEETING THERE.

DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS? WE ARE JUST WANTING TO KNOW ABOUT THE DIAL PARK.

OKAY.

I HAVE IT ON, I DIDN'T SEE ANY OF THE MINUTES.

I WAS TRYING TO READ UP ON IT AND I DIDN'T SEE IT.

OKAY.

SO JUST WANTED TO, YOU WANT TO DO THAT NOW OR LET ME GET THROUGH IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

OH, I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION.

OKAY.

FOR THE TIME BEING, I THINK IT'S BEEN PLACED ON HOLD.

OH, IT WAS SCHEDULED, UM, UH, SOMETIME IN AUGUST AND IT, IT GOT PAUSED FOR THE TIME BEING, UM, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S, IT'S GONE AWAY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S JUST BEEN PUT ON HOLD.

BUT WHAT I CAN DO IS GET A BETTER UPDATE FOR THE OCTOBER MEETING.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN IF YOU GUYS WANNA COME OCTOBER, JUST CALL THE Y AND ASK AND I CAN LET YOU KNOW TOO.

OKAY.

SO WE SAW THE SIGNS AND WE WERE JUST WONDERING AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE THIS SUMMER, SO YEAH, IT'S, IT'S JUST ON, IT'S ON PAUSE RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

THANKS.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE CITIZEN? NO.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO OLD BUSINESS THERE AND WE'LL START WITH THE CITY UPDATE.

YEP.

UM, GOT A COUPLE THINGS FOR YOU.

FIRST OF ALL, UM, I HAVE COLORS OF THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AT COMMUNITY PARK, SO THIS IS WHAT THEY WILL ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE EACH COURT.

UM, UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GET A COPY? YOU TWO WANNA SHARE ONE? OH, OKAY.

GOOD.

BACK.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

UH, THESE ARE THE, UH, COLORS THAT, UM, ALEX RECOMMENDED, UH, WHEN I SENT HIM AN EMAIL, I DON'T KNOW, AUGUST TIMEFRAME, EARLY AUGUST, I THINK ALEX, IT WAS CORRECT.

UM, BUT, UM, UM, MIKE, UH, GRAY SENT ME AN UPDATE THIS AFTERNOON OR THIS MORNING.

UM, THE CONTRACTOR, UH, FROM THE CONTRACTOR, THEY'RE SCHEDULED TO PAVE THE FIRST LAYER OF ASPHALT THIS UPCOMING MONDAY.

UM, SOON AFTER THEY WILL BE SETTING THE POLLS THEN, UH, TOP FINISHED LAYER WILL BE PAVED, FOLLOWED BY A CURING PERIOD, WHICH MAY LAST THREE TO FOUR WEEKS.

THE COURTS WILL THEN BE PAINTED AND FINALIZED.

UM, I BELIEVE THEY DUG THE FOOTERS FOR THE, THE POLES FOR THE FENCE TO MOVE IT, MOVE IT OUT 'CAUSE COUNCIL AUTHORIZED TO MAKE THE AREA BIGGER, UM, TO AVOID ANY ISSUES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY THERE.

UM, SO I WOULD SAY PROBABLY, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF OCTOBER, EARLY NOVEMBER, THE COURTS WILL BE DONE.

UM, I KNOW MAYBE THERE'LL BE SOME NICE NOVEMBER DAYS TO GET OUT AND PLAY ON 'EM A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UM, THEY WILL DEFINITELY BE READY FOR SPRINGTIME PLAY AND BE FINISHED.

SO, UM, THAT IS AN UPDATE ON THE PICKLEBALL, UH, COURTS AT COMMUNITY.

UM, THE MARIAL FESTIVALS THIS PAST WEEKEND OR A COUPLE WEEKENDS AGO, UM, UP AT THE AMPHITHEATER, THE, UM, MOVIES AND MUSIC ALL PRETTY MUCH WRAP UP HERE, UM, AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.

UM, ALSO LOOKING AT, UM, BITES IN THE HEIGHTS, WHICH IS I THINK OCTOBER SATURDAY, OCTOBER 14TH, UM, WHICH IS AT THE, UM, THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER.

UM, SO FOOD TRUCKS ALL DAY.

AND THEN, UM, THE MOVIE IS INDIANA JONES AND THE RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, WHICH WILL BE SHOWN INSIDE THE, UH, IN THE MUSIC CENTER SO PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO GO IN AND WATCH IT THERE.

UM, AND THEN THE LAST BIT OF CITY UPDATE THAT I DO HAVE IS THAT A CONDITIONAL OFFER HAS BEEN ACCEPTED FOR THE

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NEXT PARKS MANAGER, UM, PENDING A PHYSICAL AND, AND THE NORMAL STUFF THAT THEY DO FOR EMPLOYMENT HERE IN THE CITY.

SO HOPEFULLY, UM, HERE TOWARDS THE END OF OCTOBER, EARLY NOVEMBER, UH, THERE WILL BE A PARKS MANAGER ON BOARD AS WELL.

SO THAT POSITION OF PARK MANAGER CHRIS, IS THAT THE SAME POSITION THAT JOSH WAS FILLING BEFORE? YES.

OKAY.

YEP.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CHRIS? ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT THEN WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO THE Y M C A.

YEAH, SO, SO JUST A COUPLE THINGS FROM, FROM MY WORLD.

UM, THE AQUA CENTER CLOSED ON AFTER LABOR DAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A, A WEIRD, UM, A WEIRD JUNE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE WEATHER WASN'T NORMALLY WHAT IT IS IN JUNE.

HOT AND STICKY AND NASTY AND PEOPLE WANNA GO SWIM.

UM, BUT JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS SOME NUMBERS OVERALL.

UM, WE HAD 328 MEMBERS, UH, MEMBERSHIPS SOLD THIS SUMMER.

UM, THAT'S ABOUT 18 LESS THAN 2022, UM, DAILY GUEST.

UM, OVERALL WE HAD 29,766 DAILY GUESTS.

UM, THAT'S 514 PEOPLE LESS THAN 2022, WHICH I THINK IS PRETTY GOOD WITH THE, THE JUNE BEING SO HARD 'CAUSE WE WERE CLOSED OPEN EARLY OR CLOSED EARLY, I THINK 11 DAYS IN THE MONTH OF JUNE, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME.

UM, WE HAD 52 OVER 5,200 MEMBER SCANS OVERALL.

UM, SO WE HAD A TOTAL ATTENDANCE OF 35,036 PEOPLE, UM, WHICH IS ABOUT, WHICH IS SEVEN 1,722 PEOPLE LESS THAN 2022.

SO WE STILL HAD A REALLY GOOD SEASON FOR ATTENDANCE WISE, UM, EVEN WITH JUNE BEING BEING WEIRD.

UM, SO, UM, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF PAINTING THE LAZY RIVER.

UM, WATER WILL BE TURNED OFF, UH, TWO WEEKS FROM TOMORROW.

UM, AND SHE'LL BE BUTTONED UP FOR THE WINTERTIME.

SO, UM, SO YEAH, SO THAT ONE'S OVER THERE AT THE AQUATIC CENTER.

UM, FROM THE Y WE CONTINUE TO GET SHELTER RESERVATIONS.

UM, WE TAKE 'EM ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE END OF OCTOBER AND THAT'S WHEN, UH, MIKE AND HIS CREW CLOSE THE BATHROOMS FOR THE WINTERTIME.

UM, SO I'LL HAVE A, AN UPDATE ON THE NUMBER OF SHELTER RENTALS, UM, AND COMMUNITY CENTER RENTALS THAT WE'VE HAD, UM, IN 2023, UH, FOR YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING OR AT IN THE NOVEMBER MEETING.

UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING WE'VE GOT GOING ON IS, UM, THE, UM, THE Y IS HOSTING, UH, THE Y M C A GREATER DAYTON SENIOR SHOWCASE THIS WEEK.

SO, UM, TUESDAY THROUGH TOMORROW WE HAVE HAD, I DON'T KNOW WHAT 2, 250 PLUS ACTIVE OLDER ADULTS FROM YMCAS IN, IN OUR BUILDING HERE IN HUBER COMPETING IN A WIDE VARIETY OF EVENTS, UM, DAILY.

YEAH.

AND THEN, UM, THE PREVIOUS WEEK THEY HAD THE PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT, WHICH IS HELD OUT AT, UH, OUR PREBLE COUNTY LOCATION.

SO, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT THAT'S GOING ON.

ANY FOR CHRIS ON THE WHY UPDATE? YEP.

NOT FOR WHY WHEN DID WE THINK THAT I BACK UP? IS THAT FEBRUARY? IT'S FEB, BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY.

YEAH, IT'LL UM, I THINK THE LAST RENTALS SHOULD OCCUR THIS WEEKEND.

UM, AND THEN THEY'LL GET STARTED ON THE, THE RENOVATIONS.

UM, I BELIEVE THE OUTSIDE OF THE FACILITY HAS BEEN PAINTED.

UM, UM, BUT THEY'LL START THE INTERIOR WORK, UM, OCTOBER 1ST, SO, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE ALL THE OTHER RENTALS THAT WERE THERE PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED.

UM, THE SENIOR CENTER'S GONNA BE USED, UM, I KNOW THEY'RE DOING SOME THINGS I THINK IN THE COMMUNITY ROOM AT THE POLICE STATION AND THEY WERE ABLE TO KIND OF MANEUVER PEOPLE AROUND TO, TO KEEP THAT, THAT LOSS OF, OF RENTAL INCOME AT A, AT A MINIMUM.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THEN WE'LL GO ON NEXT TO THE, UH, NEW BUSINESS.

AND THE NUMBER ONE ITEM THERE IS, UH, THE 2024 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

WE HAD A LIST LAST YEAR OF ABOUT 20 ITEMS THAT WE WAS WORKING WITH.

WHAT WE NEED TO DO NOW IS LOOK BACK AT THAT LIST AND DECIDE WHAT WE THINK SHOULD BE THE RECOMMENDED ITEM FOR THE CITY TO FOCUS ON FOR 2024.

UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT, IT WAS A, VINCE HAD A, UH, SPREADSHEET, A

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COLOR CODED SPREADSHEET.

UH, I DON'T HAVE THAT SHEET WITH ME, BUT WE NEED TO GET THAT TO EVERYBODY SO WE CAN LOOK AT THE TOP FIVE ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON.

I THINK WE GIVE 'EM TOO MANY.

IT MIGHT CONFUSE THE CITY, YOU KNOW, AND THEY MIGHT GET OVERWHELMED.

JUST FOCUS ON TOP FIVE I THINK WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT.

AND I WANT TO TOP DISCUSS WHAT I THINK WHAT WE THINK THOSE TOP FIVES ARE BECAUSE IN NOVEMBER WE HAVE A, UM, WE ARE ON THE AGENDA TO HAVE A PRESENTATION AT THE CITY WORK GROUP, CITY COUNCIL WORK SECTION ABOUT THE ACTIVITIES OF THE PARK AND RECS BOARD.

SO WANT TO DO WAS THEY FORWARD THE OCTOBER MEETING, WE ALL HAVE AGREED ON WHAT WE WANT TO PRESENT TO THEM.

I DON'T WANNA GO IN THERE AND SAY THIS IS WHAT I WANT BECAUSE WHAT I WANT MAY BE OKAY, WHAT DENNYS WON'T, BUT I KNOW WE PLAY PICKLEBALL BUT THE REST OF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN HAVING WITH DIFFERENT OPINIONS.

SO WE WANT TO DO WAS TO TRY AND RESOLVE THE LIST BEFORE WE MEET WITH THE CITY COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER.

SO WHAT I COULD DO IS GET THAT LIST TO YOU AND THEN YOU CAN GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT WHAT YOU THINK ARE THE TOP FIVE AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SUFFER IT BACK AND FORTH UNTIL WE COME DOWN TO THE TOP SEVEN OR EIGHT THAT WE INTEND TO AGREE ON.

AND THAT WAY WE PRESENT THE TOP FIVE TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO IT JUST YOUR INPUTS BACK.

SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT JUSTICE SAID.

HE DON'T KNOW WHAT DENNY SAID, BUT WHEN I LOOKED AT IT AND PUT IT TOGETHER, HE SENT IT BACK OUT TO YOU.

YOU'LL KNOW THAT SOMEBODY ON HERE THOUGHT THE RESTROOM SHOULD BE NUMBER ONE, BUT ONLY ONE PERSON THOUGHT THAT.

SO WE'LL WORK IT OUT THAT WAY UNTIL WE ALL AGREE ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

AND NEXT MEETING I WILL GO THROUGH, UH, SUMMARY OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO TELL THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE NOVEMBER MEETING.

OKAY, SO GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY, I JUST, I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION.

SO, UM, THIS LIST THAT HAS PREVIOUSLY, PREVIOUSLY BEEN MADE, WE'RE GOING, YOU'RE GOING TO GET THAT TO US BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING.

OH YEAH, DEFINITELY.

AND WE WANT, YOU WANT US TO RESPOND BACK TO IT TO GET YOU WHAT WE THINK OUR TOP FIVE IS.

WELL, EACH INDIVIDUAL THINKS THE TOP FIVE ARE.

YEAH.

AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA CONSOLIDATE, CONSOLIDATE IT AND THEN I'LL SEND IT BACK OUT TO EVERYONE AGAIN.

THIS IS WHAT THE GROUP THOUGHT BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT THE GROUP MEETING AND YOU THE ONLY GUY WHO THOUGHT THE RESTROOM SHOULD BE NUMBER ONE, THEN YOU MAY HAVE TO DO A LITTLE SELLING TO GET US TO AGREE WITH YOU.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT WAY WE HAVE TWO LOOK REVIEWS AND THEY SAY BEFORE WE SUBMIT IT TO THE COUNSELOR.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

I'LL GET THAT TO YOU BECAUSE UH, I HAVE TO FIND THAT LIST.

I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT HAP WHERE I PUT MINE, SO, UH OH, YOU DON'T? YEAH, I'LL GO THROUGH AND GET THAT.

APPRECIATE IT CHRIS .

THANKS CHRIS.

ALRIGHT, NOW JUST ON ON THAT SAME TOPIC THOUGH, WE HAD A, WE HAD SEVERAL ITEMS THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED HERE LAST YEAR AND ONE OF 'EM WE HAD ON THE TOP OF OUR LIST, BUT IT GOT PUSHED BACK I THINK BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH PRESSURE ON THE CITY TO PUT IN THE PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT THE BASKETBALL COURTS THAT WE HAD WANTED TO PUT OVER AT THE WIRE GOT SORT OF PUSHED BACK FOR THAT.

THE CITY DID THE BASKETBALL COURTS DOWN AT CLOUD PARK AND THEY PUT PICKLEBALL COURTS IN, IN FRONT OF THE BASKETBALL COURTS.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T CONTINUE TO PUSH THE BASKETBALL COURT BACK.

SO TO SAY GO AHEAD CHRIS.

THE BASKETBALL COURTS PARK GENEROUS.

YEAH, THEY WERE RESEALED AND THEY STILL RIGHT.

THEY NEEDED TO BE DROWNED OUT A LITTLE BIT AND DID SOME WORK TO THEM.

RIGHT.

UM, SO YEAH, I MEAN PARK, THAT'S BAD COMMUNITY, BAD COTTONWOOD BAD ALL THE BASKETBALL COURTS BACK.

YEAH.

AND JUST PUTTING BLACK TOP CEILING ON THEM AND MAYBE PUT A LITTLE HOT TAR IN IT AIN'T GOING FIX.

SO I MEAN I, I DON'T IF WORTH INVESTING BASKETBALL COURT, WE CAN'T EVEN CUT, WE CAN'T KEEP THE ONES WE HAVE GOING.

WELL MAYBE WE NEED TO MAKE THAT A POINT THEN TO BRING UP IN THE MEETING IN NOVEMBER, YOU KNOW, EMPHASIZE TO THE COUNSELOR THAT, UM, TRYING TO FIND A FUL WAY OF SAYING THIS THAT WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSOR I GUESS IN PICKING THE CONTRACTORS TO DO THE WORK AND ALSO, UH, HOW WE DEFINE WHAT WE REALLY WANT DONE.

YEAH, BECAUSE I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND UH, BUT ALL WE CAN DO IS MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.

YEAH.

SO, BUT LIKE I'M SAYING I THINK TO YEAH, TO INVEST IN ANOTHER ONE THAT WE CAN'T KEEP THE, WE HAVE RIGHT WORK IN SHAPE, SHAPE FELL IN LOVE.

YEAH.

AND UH, A LITTLE HISTORY ON THE BASKETBALL COURT.

THE REASON THAT CAME UP IS BECAUSE WE REALIZED THERE WAS A PROGRAM

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DONE BY WRIGHT STATE UNIVERSITY A FEW YEARS BACK AND IT WAS SHOWING THE DEMOGRAPHIC OF THE CITY AND THAT DEMOGRAPHIC WAS SHIFTED MORE TOWARDS A YOUNGER GROUP, BUT THEY ALL WERE LOCATED NORTH OF OUR 70.

THAT'S WHERE THE BIGGER HOUSES ARE AND THAT'S WHERE ALL THE KIDS WERE.

BUT THERE ARE NO BASKETBALL COURTS NORTH OF OUR 70.

THAT'S WHY WE STARTED.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AS A SOLUTION TO THAT PROBLEM.

HOW WE GOT IN PROBLEM HERE NOW TRYING TO INSTALL THE COURTS THERE AT THEIR Y OKAY, SO, UH, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING CHRIS AND WHY KIDS SOUTH OF 70 AND KIDS FROM VANDALIA AND KIDS FROM EVERYWHERE YOUR NEW BASKETBALL COURT INTO IT LOOKS LIKE COTTONWOOD AND IT LOOKS LIKE .

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? RIGHT.

YOU WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I WAS A KID DID THE SAME THING.

YEAH.

WHOEVER GOT A NEW SHINY TOY, THAT'S WHERE WE WENT.

RIGHT.

IT IS MY FAULT.

WELL THAT'S A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE.

WE WANT THE KIDS THERE AND SO FORTH THAT WE HAD TO ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM WHEN IT COMES UP THEN GOOD PROBLEM.

CHRIS, DO YOU REMEMBER THE NAME FROM VINCE ABOUT SOME IDEAS? OKAY.

THERE HEAR, I HAVE HERE A LIST OF, UH, SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT WERE LEFT FROM VINCE, WHO WAS OUR FORMER CHAIR.

ONE WAS TO DEVELOP A PLAY PLAYGROUND FOR SMALLER CHILDREN AROUND THREE YEARS OLD.

CONSIDER A GROUP OF MULTIPLE PLAYGROUNDS TOGETHER, EACH DESIGNED FOR DIFFERENT AGE GROUP.

NOW HE DIDN'T SAY WHERE, BUT HE WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, SMALLER PLAYGROUND.

UM, I KNOW THEY PUT IN A NEW PLAYGROUND AT THE Y OVER BY THE AMPHITHEATER.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I AM NOT SURE WHAT, WELL, LET'S THINK ABOUT THAT.

MAKE THAT PART OF YOUR DECISION WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THIS IS IF YOU PUT IN A PLAYGROUND FOR SMALLER CHILDREN THAT THOSE UNDER THREE YEARS OLD, WHERE WOULD YOU PUT IT? WE DO HAVE ONE OVER AT MIAMI VILLA OVER THERE ON UM, THAT LITTLE YORK ROAD RIPRAP ROAD.

OKAY.

BUT I'M NOT SURE.

THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT'S DESIGNED FOR SMALLER CHILDREN.

YEAH.

I, I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING THAT'S DESIGNED FOR THREE OR YOUNGER.

HE'S GOOD ON, WELL THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PROCESS THEN IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN FOR SMALLER CHILDREN.

WHERE ARE THE SMALLER CHILDREN? ARE THEY NORTH BY 70 OR ARE THEY SOUTH OF AT INTERSTATE? IT'S THE FIND PLACE TO PUT IT.

OKAY.

GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO THAT.

ONE WAS TO ADD SOME FENCING OR SAFETY BALLS AROUND THE PUMP TRACK THREE.

THE PUMP TRACK THREE AT THE OH, BONITA AT MANITA MANITA PARK.

THAT'S CORRECT.

ALRIGHT.

ALSO TO ADD BENCHES TO EICHENBERG PLAYGROUND AREA FOUR.

THAT'D BE OVER BEHIND THE Y QUESTION ONE.

I SAY PUMP TRACK THREE.

IS IT LIKE THE THIRD TURN OR YOU KNOW, IS THERE A CERTAIN SPOT OR I, I'D HAVE TO ASK VINCE.

OKAY.

BECAUSE THESE WERE IDEAS THAT SUGGESTIONS FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HE HAD BEEN GIVEN.

SO WHAT WAS THAT AT THE PUMP TRACK AGAIN? PUMP TRACK THREE.

WHAT WAS NEEDED THAT BEEN NEEDED? RIGHT.

SAFETY RAILS.

OKAY.

IT'S PROBABLY THE THIRD CORNER.

YEAH.

THIRD TURN.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALSO ADD SWINGS TO COMMUNITY AND EICHENBERGER.

THERE ARE NO SWINGS DOWN THERE AT COMMUNITY.

I KNOW THERE'S NONE ON THE PLAYGROUND AT BERG.

THERE ARE NONE THERE.

IBERG ALSO BEHIND THE WIRE DOESN'T HAVE UM, SHADE SWINGS OR SHADE RIGHT.

OR BENCHES.

CORRECT.

UH, ABOUT THOSE SWINGS.

UH, I NEED TO PROBABLY GO BACK AROUND ALL THE PARKS THERE.

IN MY OPINION THERE'S A LACK OF SWINGS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, BUT I KNOW LIKE THERE'S BEEN A FEW TIMES I'VE BEEN TO TWIN CREEK PARK AND ALL THEY HAD WAS THE BABY SWINGS AND I GO TO OTHER PLACES, ALL THEY HAVE IS BABY SWINGS AND THERE'S A LOT OF BABY SWINGS BUT NOT ENOUGH FOR TODDLERS TO TEENAGERS TO EVEN ADULTS.

WELL BRIAN, YOU'VE BEEN HERE MUCH THE LONGER AS I HAVE ON THIS, WASN'T THERE AN ISSUE AT ONE TIME ABOUT THE SWINGS IN THE AREA BECAUSE SOME OF THE KIDS WERE GETTING, WAS GETTING

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HURT ON 'EM OR SOMETHING? THEY WERE SWINGING, THEY WERE JUMPING OFF 'EM OR SOMETHING.

I MEAN THAT, THAT, THAT ALWAYS HAPPENS.

OKAY.

BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN ISSUE AT ONE TIME.

WHY THEY QUIT PUTTING A LOT OF THEIR SWINGS IN.

I NEVER HEARD OF NO ISSUE.

OKAY.

DISREGARD THAT THEN.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

ANOTHER ITEM WAS TO ADD BENCHES, RISERS, AND PICNIC TABLES AT THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.

THAT'D BE A COMMUNITY PARK THERE.

OKAY.

ADD BATHROOMS AT COMMUNITY PARK.

AND THAT'S ON OUR LIST.

EXTEND THE PARKING AREA AT COMMUNITY PARK.

THAT'S ALSO ON OUR LIST.

ANOTHER ITEM WAS TO REDO THE WALKING PATH AT COMMUNITY PARK BECAUSE THOSE PARKS NOW ARE JUST NATURAL GRAVEL I THINK.

RIGHT.

WHICH ONE? THE COMMUNITY PARK.

THE WALKING TRACK.

I, THEY ALL, I THINK IT'S JUST NATURAL GRAVEL.

YEAH, WELL WHAT IT WAS IS, UH, SO YOU HAVE THE, THE DRIVE RIGHT.

THAT YOU WALK ON THE BLACKTOP DRIVE AND THEN RIGHT WHEN YOU GET OUT BACK TO AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE FOOTBALL FIELD AREA.

BUT THEN HE CROSS OVER AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HAVING UH, LIKE A BLACKTOP PATHWAY FROM THAT, FROM THE DRIVE CONNECTING TO THE OTHER DEAD END OF THE, OF YOU KNOW, THE ENTRY DRIVE.

SO JUST CONNECTING IT SO HE CAN HAVE A COMPLETE CIRCLE AROUND.

OKAY.

ON BLACK TOP.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT THEN UH, ANOTHER WAS TO ADD TREES TO BERGER FOR SHADE AND PLAYGROUND.

SO WHAT I WOULD DO THEN, UH, WE CAN USE THIS, I WOULD GET THIS TO YOU ALSO.

YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS AND WORK FROM THIS TO GET OUR TOP FIVE ITEMS TO WORK ON FOR NEXT, UH, YEAR DOWN THERE BASKETBALL COURSE WITHOUT ON THIS, BUT KEEP THAT IN MIND.

OKAY.

SO, SO THE BENCHES AND THE TREES, Y'ALL HAVE A PROGRAM WE TALKED ABOUT FOR MEMORIAL BENCHES, MEMORIAL TREES AND YEAH.

SO SHOULDN'T WE WORK WITH THAT? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PROGRAM TO SEE IF THEY, I DUNNO HOW MANY APPLICATIONS WE'VE GOT FOR THAT.

OKAY.

SO WELL THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE THE, UH, HAVE SOMEONE SPONSOR THE TREES AND BENCH, YOU KNOW.

YEAH, WELL WE PUT THAT ON OUR LIST AND MAKE THAT A KNOWN TO UH, I GUESS IS IT MIKE, THAT HAACK GET THE, CHOOSE WHICH TREES AND IT'S NORMALLY THE PARKS MANAGER.

YEAH.

OKAY.

OR HOPEFULLY OUR NEW PARKS MANAGER.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY WE SET UP AS ALRIGHT THEN.

SO, OKAY.

ALRIGHT, WELL I'LL MAKE THAT A POINT THEN CHRIS, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN UH, WE MEET THE NEXT TIME WE CAN DECIDE HOW TO APPROACH THAT THEN.

OKAY.

AND THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT VINCE HAD BEEN GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE CITIZEN OF COMMUNITY AND HE PUT IT TOGETHER, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

SOME OF THE SAME THINGS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT THEN.

WELL I WILL GET THAT LIST TO YOU AND THEN YOU CAN, UH, GO THROUGH AND PICK YOUR OWN TIME TO REVIEW IT AND SAY, WELL YOUR PRIORITIES ARE AND WE WILL CONSOLIDATE THE LIST AND DIDN'T HAVE A THOUGHT FOR THE PLAYGROUND FOR THREE.

OKAY.

THAT WOULD BE THE GREAT OPTION BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF TUCKED BACK AWAY THERE.

RIGHT.

TRAFFIC'S NOT BAD DOES HAPPEN TO GET AWAY FROM YOU.

WE GOT A OKAY.

A YEAH, IT'S POSSIBLE.

OKAY.

I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT UPDATING THE PLAYGROUND AT, UM, COMMUNITY, AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER BEFORE.

UM, SO MAYBE I THINK VINCENT, HIS EMAIL TALKS ABOUT HAVING, UH, GROUPING MULTIPLE PLAYGROUNDS TOGETHER.

SO MAYBE THAT WE, YOU COULD DO THAT AND MAKE IT AGE APPROPRIATE AND GET A NEW PLAYGROUND DOWN THERE.

WELL, THE SAME THING IT WOULD BE SAID ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT FRAMING A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF AT THE BERGER AMPHITHEATER, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF EVENTS THAT HAPPEN THERE AND THEN THERE'S ALWAYS LIKE WHEN SOMEBODY'S GOING UP AND DOWN THE FARMER'S MARKET, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS'S GROWING OFF THE PLACE, SOMETHING, THEN YOU COULD TAKE YOUR LITTLE ONES 'CAUSE TO A SPECIAL, YOU KNOW, SPOT.

BUT SINCE IT'S LIKE I SAID, IT'S EVERY SATURDAY, YOU KNOW, SATURDAY THROUGH THE SEASON THEY HAVE FARMER'S MARKET, THEN YOU GOT THE CONCERT SERIES, MUSIC SERIES.

YEAH.

THAT PLAYGROUND, THAT PLAYGROUND GETS A LOT OF USAGE AT THE AMPHITHEATER.

AND YOU COULD, AND IF YOU COULD CL YOU KNOW, HAVE ANOTHER ONE CLOSE BY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT THEN.

UH, SO I THINK, I'M SORRY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? I'M SORRY.

SO, UH, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A DISCRETIONARY FUND FOR OUR BOARD TO USE.

WHEN DOES THAT RE RESET? IS THAT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR OR? I THINK, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FINAL, WHAT

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THE COUNT WAS FOR WHAT WE'VE SPENT SO FAR, BUT UM, WE MIGHT THINK ABOUT TRYING TO SPEND THAT MONEY MAYBE ON SOME OF THESE SMALLER THINGS TOO.

UM, THAT WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY NEED CITY APPROVAL FOR.

I DON'T DUNNO HOW THAT WORK, IF THAT WOULD WORK.

UM, OR UM, JUST 'CAUSE WE HAVE EXTRA MONEY, WE COULD, WE COULD USE SOME IMPROVEMENTS.

I'M NOT SURE HOW OR IF IT'S JUST FOR PROGRAMMING.

I CAN GET AN UPDATE NEXT FOR NEXT MONTH.

OKAY.

I'LL GET AN UPDATE FOR YOU.

WELL, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE CAN'T BUT I COULD SAY THOUGH, NOT KNOWING EXACTLY HOW THE MONEY IS ALLOCATED FOR THE CITY AND WHAT DID YOU SELL ASIDE FOR, I CAN'T SPEAK THAT THAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT WAY TO GO, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS LOOK INTO IT BECAUSE IF YOU BROUGHT IT UP THERE, UH, ONE THING THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT TOO IS WITH THE PICKLEBALL COURSE GOING IN, I DON'T WANT TO DIVERSE TOO FAR FROM THE COPY HERE, BUT , IF WE WOULD DECIDE TO HAVE PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENTS IN HUBER HEIGHTS, WE GOING TO NEED TO KNOW WHO AUTHORIZED THE CITY, MEANING THE CITY TO PUT THAT ON.

OR IF SOMEBODY WANT TO SET UP A PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT, WHO DO THEY GET APPROVAL FROM TO DO IT? IS THAT THE PARK ANDRE BOARD MAKING THE DECISION OR IS IT THE PARK MANAGER I WOULD ASSUME NOW WILL BE THE ONE WHO WILL MAKE THAT DECISION STILL ME COME THROUGH.

YEAH, I LOOK AT IT.

OKAY, GOOD.

WE KNOW WHERE TO GO.

SO, UH, THE ISSUE IS IF WE HAVE A PICK UP OUR TOURNAMENT AND SOMEONE HAVE TO PAY THEIR FEE TO JOIN, I DON'T WANT IT SENT TO MY CHECKING ACCOUNT.

I DON'T WANNA GET INVOLVED IN THAT.

SO WE STILL DON'T HAVE IT DO IT THROUGH THE WHILE YOU'RE SAYING INTEREST.

WELL, WELL IT'S TO, TO RESERVE IT.

I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IN THE ANNUAL REVIEW THAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR THE, THE USER GROUPS.

RIGHT.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO ADD, WE'LL HAVE TO GET SOME GUIDANCE ON ON PICKLEBALL COURTS YEAH.

TO YEAH.

'CAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE REFER TO SOFTBALL FIELDS.

BASEBALL FIELDS FIRST FOR USE FOR SOCCER.

OKAY.

THERE'S USAGE FEE FOR LIKE WHEN FOOTBALL USES AN OPEN SPACE AND THERE'S TENNIS COURTS, THERE'S FEES FOR THAT AND THEN FOR FEES FOR TOURNAMENTS, FEES FOR, ALRIGHT.

NOW ON THAT SAME TOPIC, DO WE ALLOW PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS TO RESERVE THE PICKLEBALL COURT? WELL, LIKE, LIKE JUST LIKE ANY, LIKE THE SPORTING STUFF, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE LEAGUES THAT ARE SET UP THAT RENT IT FOR THE SEASON.

SO THERE'S SEASONS, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO WAYS TO RENT IT FOR LIKE THE, LIKE FOR SOCCER THERE'S A A ONE DAY RENTAL FEE FOR ALL THE FIELDS FOR THAT ONE DAY.

THEN SO BEING LIKE A WARRIOR TOURNAMENT, THERE'S TWO DAYS THAT THEY PLAY AND SO THEY RENT IT OUT FOR THAT TWO DAYS.

I MEAN, I GUESS THAT BRINGS TO A GOOD QUESTION.

LIKE IF I WANTED TO RENT OUT COTTONWOOD BASKETBALL COURT FOR A BIRTHDAY PARTY, RIGHT.

AND I GO IN AND REPORT ALL DAY, WE'VE NEVER HAD THAT ONE.

WELL, BECAUSE I MEAN WE NEVER, I MEAN, BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF THE SAME THING THAT YOU'RE ASKING.

EXACTLY.

THE CONCERN I HAVE WITH IT IS IF YOU START DOING THAT, THERE'S SOME GROUPS THAT'LL BE THERE EVERY SATURDAY.

THERE'LL BE A GROUP HAVING A PARTY RENTING THE PARK, THE COURTS, AND THEY'RE GONNA GO DOWN THERE TO PLAY.

DENNIS HAS NOWHERE TO PLAY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN RENTED OUT.

SO THE QUESTION BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH THIS, DO WE ALLOW ANYBODY TO COME IN AND RENT THE PICKLEBALL? SO I GUESS, I GUESS THE, THE BEST THING WOULD BE USED WOULD BE THE TENNIS COURTS AT CLOUD.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NORMALLY A, A GROUP THING.

SO LIKE, UM, WHAT IS THAT? SOUTHWEST OHIO BUCKEYE LEAGUE.

RIGHT.

THAT THEY RENT 'EM A COUPLE TIMES A YEAR, BUT THEN THE COURTS ARE ALSO FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE, YOU KNOW, SO LIKE IF IF YOU WANTED TO RENT COURTS ONE THROUGH THREE RIGHT AT THE TENNIS COURT, I'D BE LIKE, WELL IT'S FIRST COME FIRST SERVE.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, SO IT IT IT'S MORE GEARED TOWARDS USER GROUPS, GROUPS OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY RENTING THEM FOR OFFENSE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

BECAUSE WITH THE OLD COURTS WE HAD DOWN THERE, AS HORRIBLE AS THEY WERE, THERE WERE PEOPLE DOWN THERE GIVING PRIVATE LESSONS.

NOW I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WERE CHARGING FOR THAT, BUT I KNOW IT'S ILLEGAL TO USE A PUBLIC FACILITY AND CHARGE A FEE FOR IT.

OKAY.

I THINK ABOUT THAT.

TELL YOU I GO DOWN THERE AND GIVE PRIVATE LESSONS.

NOW I GO DOWN THERE TO PLAY AND DO I HAVE TO WAIT OR DO I RUN 'EM OFF? WHAT DO I DO WITH THAT? I I DON'T SEE HOW YOU STOP SOMEBODY A LESSON.

I MEAN IF THE COURT'S AVAILABLE IS AVAILABLE

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NOW IF SOMEBODY ELSE IS DOWN THERE WAITING FOR A COURT, THEY'RE ALL FILLED UP AND HE'S GIVEN PRIVATE LESSONS.

AND I WE'RE THINKING LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, YOU'VE GOTTA ROTATE THE COURT SO PEOPLE CAN GET IN AND OFF OF HIM.

BUT THEY DO IT UP AT DUKE.

YOU KNOW THE GUY THAT GIVES PRIVATE LESSONS UP AT DUKE OVER TIME AND HE JUST COMES IN AND TAKES OVER A COURT AND STARTS GIVING PEOPLE LESSONS.

WELL, BUT I THOUGHT WHEN HE WAS GIVEN THE LESSON, HE ALWAYS LEFT BEFORE THE COURT'S ALL FILLED UP.

RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

IF THE COURTS ARE FILLED UP, YOU CAN'T DOMINATE ONE COURT.

BUT JOHN DO DOESN'T KNOW THAT HE'S GIVEN HIS LESSON AND HE WANTED TO DO IT FOR AN HOUR AND I'M SITTING THERE WAITING.

SEE WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT COULD CREATE A LITTLE TENSION THERE BECAUSE I'M SITTING AND WAITING AND HE'S TRYING TO FINISH IN HIS NEXT 20 MINUTES BECAUSE HE COMMITTED TO AN HOUR OF LESSON.

I THINK THIS COULD END UP BEING A BOILING POINT IF I SHOW UP TO PLAY AT SEVEN 30 AND THIS GUY'S STILL GIVING LESSONS AND CHARGING SOMEBODY FOR, I JUST HAVE A, I HAVE A PERSONAL PROBLEM WITH THAT AND I JUST WONDERING, IS THAT SOMETHING THE CITY YOU THINK COULD BE AWARE OF AND WE SHOULD ADDRESS DOWN BEFORE WE STARTED? OR ANYBODY CAN GO ON A TENNIS NUMBER RIGHT NOW AT THE CLOUD AND GIVE PERSON A LESSON? I MEAN, NOBODY'S ON THE COURTS, RIGHT? WELL YOU'RE RIGHT IF NO ONE IS ON THE COURT.

RIGHT.

BUT HOW DO WE GET HIM OFF WHEN I SCREW UP THE PLAY? WELL, I MEAN IF WE HAVE IT SET UP LIKE THE TENNIS AND SAY IF I START UP A HU HEIGHTS, HES PICKLEBALL LEAGUE AND I HAVE, YOU KNOW, REGISTRATIONS, PEOPLE REGISTER AND I SET UP LEAGUES AND THEN I RENTED IT OUT, GO THROUGH CHRIS AND RENT IT OUT FOR A SEASON AND I SAY, HEY ON, I HAVE IT ON TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAYS, I HAVE MY LEAGUE.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU CHARGE THE YOUTH TO USE THE FACILITY, YOU PAY, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE A LOT OF THAT STUFF.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THEIR KIDS ARE BEING COACHED AND ALL THAT.

SO I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY COULD SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, I WANNA RENT THIS SPACE OUT LIKE ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THERE'S LIKE CLUBS OUT THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, CHARGE FOR TRAINING AND YOU KNOW, SOCCER.

I JUST, I JUST THINK THE, THE, THE BAD, THE ONE THING IS I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS, IS UH, REC LIKE A, LIKE I CAN'T GO AHEAD AND WITH MY LEAGUE RENT OUT SOME FIELDS TO N V Y S A AND SAY CHARGE THAT'S SUB SUBLEASING.

I KNOW I CAN'T DO THAT.

OKAY, WELL BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.

NOT TRYING TO CHANGE ANY RULES OR ANYTHING, BUT SOME POLICIES.

IN OTHER WORDS, THERE CAN BE NO ONE DOWN THERE PLAYING SINGERS PICKLEBALL.

WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLES WAITING THAT NEED TO BE A POLICY THAT WE ESTABLISHED FROM THE GET GO BECAUSE YOU GOT TWO GUYS PLAYING SINGERS AND THEY COULD PLAY FOR IT HOUR.

WE COULD HAVE FOUR GUYS PLAYING.

I LOVE PLAYING SINGERS BUT TO BE FAIR, I THINK THAT NEED TO BE A POLICY THAT WE SET UP WHEN WE STARTED.

WELL I MEAN I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, RIGHT, BUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IF THEY'RE LIKE, NO WE'RE PLAYING SINGLE.

YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, GO OFF.

ARE WE CALLING COPS? IS CHRIS COMING DOWN THERE AS A NEW PARTS MANAGER COMING DOWN THERE? YOU GOING DOWN THERE? BUT, BUT IF WE, IF WE HAVE THE POLICY ESTABLISHED, OKAY, THAT DOES GIVE YOU SOME LEVERAGE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF SAYING, WELL THIS, THESE ARE THE POLICIES.

IF HE DOESN'T LEAVE, YOU'RE RIGHT CHRIS, NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.

OKAY.

BUT THE POINT IS, , IF WE DON'T HAVE SOME POLICY ESTABLISHED, YOU GOING TO HAVE TWO OR THREE GUYS DOWN THERE PLAYING SINGERS TOURNAMENT.

IN OTHER WORDS, YOU COULD GET OUTTA HAND.

AND I HAVE SEEN COURTS WHERE THEY HAVE THAT POLICY ESTABLISHED.

NO SINGERS PLAY IF PEOPLE ARE WAITING TO PLAY.

YEAH.

WELL WHAT IF YOU'RE OF THE CLOUD PARTNER AND ALL THE TENNIS COURTS ARE BEING USED AND YOU AND YOUR PARTNER GO UP THERE AND WANT TO USE ONE AND NOBODY LETS THE ON AND JUST SAY NO, WE'RE NOT LETTING THE ON WE'RE WE'RE STILL FIGHTING.

I MEAN WHAT'S THE, THE PROCEDURES THERE IS THAT THE NEXT COURT COMES UP.

YOU GET IT? OKAY.

WHO SAID THAT? WHERE? SHOW ME WHERE THAT'S WRITTEN.

SO NO, WHEN I STARTED PLAYING HERE IN 1980, THEY HAD USED TO HAVE HOOKS ON THE FENCE THERE AND YOUR PALLETS WENT IN, DETERMINE WHO'S NEXT.

OKAY.

AND WHEN SOMEONE LEFT, THE NEXT PALLET WENT ONTO THE COURT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

BUT IS THAT WRITTEN SOMEWHERE ON THE NO, BUT IT WAS AN ESTABLISHED POLICY THERE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO WHAT I'M SEEING IS WE HAD PUT A CREDIT CARD SQUAT MACHINE UP ON THE FENCE DOWN THERE.

YOU SQUAT, YOU GET AN HOUR WHEN THAT HOUR'S UP, THE NEXT PERSON DO SQUAT.

WE SAID COME ON , IT'S A MONEY MAKING PRO CHRIS, WRITE THAT DOWN.

WE MAKING MONEY RIGHT NOW.

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LIKE A CAR WASH, HUH? WELL I WAS THROWING THESE OUT BECAUSE THESE ARE THINGS THAT I'VE SEEN FROM OTHER PLACES WHERE YOU HAVE TO PICKLEBALL COURSES AND SO FORTH, SOME WORK VERY SMOOTHLY.

LIKE THE ONES OVER AT VANDE, THEY'VE HAD NO PROBLEMS THERE, UH, WITH THE COURT AND SO FORTH.

BUT UH, THERE'S BEEN TIMES I KNOW DENNIS , I KNOW , WHEN SOMEBODY'S ON THE COURT, ALL THE COURTS ARE FILLED.

YEAH.

AND YOU'RE SITTING THERE WAITING.

YEAH.

AND THEY DON'T LET YOU ON THE COURT.

WHAT DO YOU DO? GO OVER AND PUNCH 'EM.

.

IT'S CALLED THE SALT, THE SALT .

WELL THIS IS A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE THE PICKLEBALL COURTS GOING IN, BUT WE WERE GOING TO TRY AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES WE THINK ANTICIPATE BEFORE, UH, THE CITY MANAGER GET HERE, YOU KNOW, AND I GUESS AND UPDATE HIM ON WHAT WE SUGGEST.

YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, HE HAS HIS OWN IDEAS OF WHAT HE WANTS TO DO, BUT JUST SOME IDEAS WHAT WE TALK WITH HIM AS TO WHAT WE THINK SHOULD BE, UH, WAY OF MANAGING THAT.

SO, UH, SINCE YOU TWO ARE, DENNIS AND ALEX ARE THE PICKLEBALL PLAYERS AND YOU GUYS TRAVEL TO DUKE PARK AND ALL THESE, THE BANDELE AND ALL THESE OTHER PRIDE KETTERING AT ANY OF THESE FACILITIES, DO THEY HAVE LIKE POSTED RULES AND IN ANY OF THESE LO LOCATION THAT AS POSTED RULES ARE ONES THAT YOU PREFER OVER ANOTHER OR YOU THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY? DUKE.

DUKE.

DUKE, DUKE JUST, JUST UH, STARTED A ASSOCIATION THAT CONTROLS THE PICKLEBALL COURT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

AND THEY HAVE LIKE ANY ASSOCIATION, ALL KINDS OF RULES, RIGHT? YEAH.

WELL THE REASON WHY I'M, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT LIKE ASSOCIATION RULES.

I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST A POLICY, THE POLICY FOR THE, FOR THE PARK FOR A CITY.

BECAUSE USUALLY ALL THE ORDINANCES THAT THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS HAS, MOST OF IT ALL STARTS OFF.

OHIO HAS A BASIC POLICY AND THEN THEY JUST COPY AND PASTE.

AND THEN THERE'S SOME STUFF LIKE OUR TREE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE OR IS BASICALLY A COPY AND PASTE FOR WHAT VANDALIA HAS.

YEAH.

WE JUST EDIT, WE PUT OUR TREES AND OUR COLOR SCHEME AND OUR, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S THEIR POLICY AND IT'S USUALLY THAT'S HOW A LOT OF STUFF GETS HAPPEN AND YOU JUST SAY, HEY, WE LIKE THAT POLICY, WE LIKE THESE RULES, WE'LL TAKE THE COPY AND PASTE AND WE MIGHT EDIT HERE AND THERE FOR WHAT'S BEST FOR US.

YEAH.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WAS A, AN AREA THAT HAS OR POLICIES THAT YOU THINK WILL WORK THE BEST FOR US THAT WE COULD BASICALLY JUST COPY AND PASTE AND JUST MAKE A, JUST TWEAK IT FOR US.

I THINK THAT'S WHO HAS UH, WHERE YOU PUT YOUR PADDLES UP ON THE FENCE.

SO IF YOU'RE, THE GOLF COURTS ARE FILLED AND YOU WANT TO GET UP AND PLAY ON THE NEXT COURT WHEN THE GAME'S OVER WITH, YOU PUT A PADDLE OFF THERE AND THE FIRST FOUR PADDLES GO TO THE NEXT COURT.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA IS UH, PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY PUT THAT SYSTEM IN PLACE.

ALRIGHT.

IN KENNEDY PARK DOWN IN, UH, DOWN IN KETTERING ON UH, DAVID ROAD, IS IT? YEAH, DAVID ROAD.

THERE ARE SOME SIGNAGE THERE WITH THE POLICY AND SO FORTH.

SO WE CAN DO IS GET THOSE AND TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE ALSO THEN.

ALRIGHT THEN.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, THE ISSUE TO, UH, DISCUSS FOR THE NEXT MEETING PRIOR TO THE UH, NOVEMBER WORK SECTION OR ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THE NEW PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT ARE GOING ON IN? DO WE HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE OLD PICKLEBALL COURTS? NO, BECAUSE NO ONE WANT TO USE THEM.

SO WE DO, IT'S CAUSING ALL THE ISSUES.

SO WHAT NOW DUCK CHRIS? SO WE DOING, IT'S CAUSING ALL THE ISSUES.

WELL WE'RE HOPING YOU'RE PUTTING THAT MONEY TOWARDS BASKETBALL FOR THAT'S WHAT I'M .

YEAH, WELL NO, WELL WE'RE HOPING IF WE'RE SEEING HAVING PROBLEMS 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, NEW AND SHINY.

YEAH.

AND IF IT'S DONE RIGHT, NEW AND SHINY, NEW AND SHINY IS DONE RIGHT.

THERE'LL BE PEOPLE COME, THEY COME.

THEY, WE HAD NEW AND SHINY BUT IT WASN'T DONE RIGHT.

SO NOBODY CAME.

THEY CAME, THEY SAW, THEY LEFT.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THOSE TOPICS BEFORE WE GO ON? OKAY, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA THERE IS ADDITIONAL BUSINESS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY.

DOES ANYONE ELSE ON THE COMMITTEE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO.

OKAY.

NONE FROM MY RIGHT.

NONE FROM THE LEFT.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA THEN IS THE APPROVE OF THE MINUTES AND THESE WILL BE THE AUGUST 17TH MINUTES IF EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES.

OKAY.

DID ANYONE HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS? I I HAVE ONE.

UM, IN THE MEMBERS PRESENT, UH, BLAKE HERSTEIN IS LISTED AS PRESENT.

AND BLAKE BLAKE HERSTEIN IS ALSO LISTED AS ABSENT.

SO WHICH WERE YOU? I WAS ABSENT BUT YOU WERE HERE IN HEART.

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OKAY.

SPIRIT AND THERE GO.

I COULD FEEL YOU.

WE ARE NOTE TO COMMENT OF THE CORRECTION THERE.

THANK BLAKE.

ANY OTHER CORRECTION OR COMMENTS? IF THERE ARE NO OTHER CORRECTION OR COMMENTS, THEN I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT THE MINUTES BE APPROVED.

ANY OBJECTIONS? NONE.

SO MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

OKAY.

NEXT ITEM THERE IS THE, UH, UPCOMING MEETING AND THAT WOULD BE THE, UH, OH, THERE IT IS.

OKAY.

OCTOBER 19TH.

OCTOBER 19TH AT THAT MEETING, THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE UH, ITEM TO PRESENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 8TH.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I HAVE.

OKAY CHRIS AND UH, BRIAN.

ALRIGHT.

MEETINGS ADJOURNED.