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[1. Call The Meeting To Order - Mayor Jeff Gore]
WELCOME TO THE CITY OF HEBREW HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL MEETING REGULAR SESSION.TODAY'S DATE IS SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2023, AND WE'RE GETTING STARTED RIGHT AT 6:00 PM THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDER.
UH, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, PRIOR TO OUR INVOCATION THIS EVENING, IF YOU WOULD JOIN ME IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE, UH, IN REMEMBRANCE OF THE EVENTS THAT HAPPENED ON NINE 11.
[2. Invocation - Pastor Randy Griffith Of The Free Methodist Church At 6875 Old Troy Pike, Huber Heights, Ohio]
TWO ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING, AND THAT IS OUR INVOCATION.AND WE HAVE PASTOR RANDY GRIFFITH OF THE FREE METHODIST CHURCH AT 68 75 OLD TROY PIKE HERE IN HEBREW HEIGHTS WITH US THIS EVENING.
PSALM ONE, ONE TO THREE SAYS, BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO DO NOT WALK IN THE COUNCIL OF THE WICKED OR STAND IN THE WAY OF SINNERS OR SIT IN THE SEAT OF MOCKS, BUT THEIR DELIGHT IS IN THE WORD OF THE LORD AND HIS WORD.
THEY'RE LIKE TREES PLANTED BY STREAMS OF WATER, WHICH YIELD THEIR FRUIT IN SEASON.
AND WHOSE LEAF DOES NOT WITHER? WHATEVER THEY DO PROSPERS.
I HEARD SOME ON THE RADIO, SOMEONE ON THE RADIO TODAY SAYING THAT SINCE NINE 11 WE'VE GOTTEN MUCH BETTER.
THOUGH WE STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO IN DETECTING AND PROTECTING AGAINST TERRORIST TYPED ACTIVITIES, ESPECIALLY AT AIRPORTS.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF OUR ENEMY AND HOW HE OPERATES, ESPECIALLY THE ENEMY OF OUR SOULS, SO THAT WE MAY RESIST HIM AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
C SS LEWIS, IN HIS BOOK, THE SCREW TAPE LETTERS WROTE, WE MUST PICTURE HELL AS A STATE WHERE EVERYONE IS PERPETUALLY CONCERNED ABOUT HIS OWN DIGNITY AND ADVANCEMENT.
WHERE EVERYONE HAS A GRIEVANCE AND WHERE EVERYONE LIVES.
THE DEADLY SERIOUS PASSIONS OF ENVY, SELF-IMPORTANCE AND RESENTMENT, HENCE, NATURALLY ENOUGH.
MY SYMBOL FOR HELL IS SOMETHING LIKE THE BUREAUCRACY OF A POLICE STATE OR THE OFFICES OF A THOROUGHLY NASTY BUSINESS CONCERN.
AN OFFICIAL SOCIETY HELD TOGETHER ENTIRELY BY FEAR AND GREED.
DOG EAT DOG IS THE PRINCIPLE OF THE WHOLE ORGANIZATION.
EVERYONE WISHES EVERYONE ELSE'S DISCREDITING, DEMOTION AND RUIN.
EVERYONE IS AN EXPERT IN THE CONFIDENTIAL REPORT, THE PRETENDED ALLIANCE, THE STAB IN THE BACK OVERALL THIS THEY GOOD MANNERS, THEIR EXPRESSIONS OF GRAVE RESPECT THEIR AT TRIBUTES TO ONE ANOTHER'S INVALUABLE SERVICES FORM A THIN CRUST EVERY NOW AND THEN IT GETS PUNCTURED AND THE SCALDING LAVA OF THEIR HATRED SPURTS OUT.
BUT THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS NOT LIKE THAT.
GOD IS OUR PROTECTION AND HIS WORD IS OUR GUIDEBOOK.
AND IF AMERICA IS WHY SHE WILL DESIRE TO RESIST EVIL AND DO WHAT IS GOOD, LIKE GOD IS GOOD.
AS PAUL WRITES IN TITUS TWO, FOR THE GRACE OF GOD THAT BRINGS SALVATION HAS APPEARED TO ALL PEOPLE.
IT TEACHES US TO SAY NO TO UNGODLINESS AND WORLDLY PASSIONS AND TO LIVE SELF-CONTROLLED, UPRIGHT, AND GODLY LIVES IN THIS PRESENT AGE, WHILE WE WAIT FOR THE BLESSED HOPE, THE GLORIOUS APPEARING OF OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST, WHO GAVE HIMSELF FOR US TO REDEEM US FROM ALL WICKEDNESS AND TO PURIFY FOR HIMSELF OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HIS VERY OWN EAGER TO DO WHAT IS GOOD.
THESE THEN ARE THE THINGS YOU SHOULD TEACH.
FATHER, WE LOOK TO YOU TO BE A NATION THAT YOU'VE DESIGNED, THAT YOU HAVE IN MIND.
LORD, WE PRAYED THAT THIS COMMUNITY MIGHT BE LIKE THAT AS WELL, AND THAT YOU WOULD WORK AMONG US AND THROUGH US AND IN US TO MAKE IT THAT WAY.
AND IT'S IN CHRIST NAME WE PRAY.
[3. Pledge Of Allegiance]
MY PLEASURE.TO APPLY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[4. Roll Call]
WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE? MR. SHAW? HERE.[ City Council Meeting Minutes - August 28, 2023]
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MINUTES.ITEM FIVE A ARE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM AUGUST 28TH, 2023.
UH, THOSE HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS, AND THOSE MINUTES STAND AS APPROVED.
SEEING NONE, THOSE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
[ Swearing In And Oath Ceremony/Introductory Remarks - Huber Heights City Manager Richard S. Dzik - Mayor Jeff Gore]
IS ITEM NUMBER SIX, SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.ITEM SIX, A SWEARING IN AN OATH CEREMONY AND INTRODUCTORY REMARKS BY HUBER HEIGHTS, CITY MANAGER RICHARD S ZICK, MAYOR BY MAYOR JEFF COURT.
SO FIRST BEFORE WE START, I JUST, UH, WANTED TO SAY AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE WE DO THE, UH, OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS I'VE REALLY GOTTEN, UM, REALLY GOT TO KNOW RICK AND, UH, WE, WE'VE HAD SOME TIME TOGETHER AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE THAT I REALLY BELIEVE, UH, THAT WE'VE GOT THE BEST CANDIDATE THAT WE COULD.
UH, I BELIEVE IN RICK TREMENDOUSLY.
I BELIEVE WHAT HE'S GOING TO BRING TO THIS CITY IS GONNA BE A TREMENDOUS VALUE.
UH, UM, THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE AND I 1000% BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE THE RIGHT GUY, UH, TO LEAD THIS CITY FORWARD.
AND I'M SURE TO THANKFUL WE SET THEIR OFFER BIGGER HERE.
AND I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO OVERVIEW, UH, FOR SAME TO HAVE YOU.
AND I DO WANT TO THANK CITY COUNCIL FOR GIVING THIS OPPORTUNITY, UH, TRUSTING IN ME.
I, I GUARANTEE YOU WON'T, UH, BE LET DOWN.
I REALLY DO WANT THANK THE COMMUNITY AND OUR STAFF, UH, FOR THE WARM WELCOME I GOT A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
SO REALLY JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING DONE.
YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, PLEASE.
DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM I, RICHARD, S Z DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES TO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF OHIO, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF OHIO, THE CHARTER IN ALL ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF YOUR RIGHTS, THE CHARTER AND ALL ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF HU RIGHTS, AND THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY, HONESTLY, AND IMPARTIALLY, AND THAT I'LL FAITHFULLY, HONESTLY AND IMPARTIALLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITIES, DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITIES.
[7. Citizens Comments]
NUMBER SEVEN, CITIZENS' COMMENTS.DO WE HAVE ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? I JUST HAVE ONE THIS EVENING, MAYOR.
UH, THAT WOULD BE MR. PAUL SCHAFER.
UM, IN 2021, MAYOR GORE RAN FOR A SECOND TERM AS MAYOR AND THE DAYTON DAILY NEWS GUIDE.
HE SAID THE TOP THREE PRIORITIES WOULD BE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, WATER AND STREETS SOLUTIONS FOR TRAFFIC DESIGNS, WHICH ARE, UH, TRAFFIC DESIGNS WERE IN THE WORK AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
HE FURTHER SAID, I'LL BE ASKING OUR CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE MORE APPROPRIATED DOLLARS FOR WATER MAINTENANCE STREET REPAIR.
I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP PRESSING OUR CITY STAFF FOR DETAILED DESIGN WORK ON OUR TRAFFIC ISSUES AROUND ROUTE 2 0 2 AND I 70, ALONG WITH SOLUTIONS FOR MERRILY WAY I'VE ALWAYS SUPPORTED OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS WITH THE FUNDING THEY NEED TO, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICES POSSIBLE TO OUR RESIDENTS.
I SUPPORT A NEW TRAFFIC CONTROL UNIT WITH OUR POLICE DIVISION TO HELP STOP PEOPLE BREAKING OUR TRAFFIC LAWS.
AND I BELIEVE THE CITIZENS ARE DEMANDING IT, MR. MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.
IT'S TWO YEARS LATER, AND I CAN TELL YOU AS CI CITIZEN OF HUBER HEIGHTS, I BELIEVE THOSE PROMISES ARE UNFULFILLED AND I AND MANY OTHERS ARE STILL DEMANDING THAT THESE GET DONE LOOK NO FURTHER THAN THE FREQUENT POSTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA CONCERNING INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, PARTICULARLY WITH REGARDS TO TRAFFIC AND DRIVERS BEHAVIORS TO GATES THE TEMPERATURE OF THE COMMUNITY ON THESE TOPICS.
ON TUESDAY 14 FEBRUARY, 2023, I WROTE MAYOR GORE AND I SAID, I HAVE SEEN NO COMPREHENSIVE TRAFFIC STUDY TO ACCOMMODATE THE TRAFFIC COMING WITH OUR NEW GROWTH.
I'VE SEEN NO PROFESSIONAL STUDY ON THE IMPACTS, UH, FOR THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR FIRE, POLICE, WATER, SEWER STORMS, WATER CITY STAFF, OR PUBLIC WORKS.
WITHOUT SUCH PLANS, I AND MANY OTHERS REMAIN CONCERNED THAT ISSUES SUCH AS THE ONE AT MERRILEE WAY
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WILL BE REPEATED IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.NO RESPONSE TO MY EMAIL WAS RECEIVED AFTER THIS WEEK, I'M LEFT ASKING WHERE WAS THE PLAN THAT INCLUDED PUTTING UP SIGNS WARNING DRIVERS OF THE COMING TURN LANE TRAFFIC PATTERN CHANGES AT MERRILL WAY, AND WHY WEREN'T THOSE SIGNS INSTALLED PRIOR TO MAKING THE CHANGE? WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN SOMEONE SAYS, I TAKE OWNERSHIP FOR NOT HAVING OUR PLAN TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES? ON SUNDAY 25, FEBRUARY 23, I WROTE, MAYOR GORN SAID, I'VE GONE BACK LOOKING AT THE CITY MEETING RECORDS FROM 2021 REGARDING POLICE STAFFING INCREASES.
AS I FOLLOWED THE BUDGET PROCESS, I SAW WHERE CHIEF LIGHTNER AND DISCUSSED THE STAFFING OF THREE OFFICERS TO PROVIDE SOME INCREASED LEVEL OF FOCUS ON TRAFFIC.
IT SEEMS THESE DECISIONS GOT DEFERRED WAITING FOR THE OLD CITY MANAGER TO COMPLETE SOME ANALYSIS TO PRESENT.
AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS COINCIDENT WITH LEAVING OF THE OLD CITY MANAGER AND THE APPOINTMENT OF THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER DISCUSSION ON POLICE STAFFING INCREASES SEEMED TO HAVE STOPPED IN MY EMAIL.
I ASKED WHAT HAPPENED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, MANPOWER INCREASE IN ANALYSIS DISCUSSIONS TO SUPPORT ENHANCED TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.
AGAIN, NO RESPONSES WAS EVER RECEIVED.
ON NINE MARCH TWO 20, UH, 2023, I WROTE TO THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN I PROVIDED AN ANALYSIS OF TRAFFIC DATA IN HUBER HEIGHTS, COMPARING 20, UH, 2002 POLICY HUBER HEIGHTS REPORT TO 2022 HUBER HEIGHTS POLICE DATA THAT OFFERED, UH, WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH TICKETS.
IT OFFERED THAT THERE WERE AS MANY POSSIBLE FACTORS TO CONSIDER CONCERNING WHY THE CITATION RATES HAD DROPPED, BUT I OFFERED NO CONCLUSIONS AT THAT TIME.
SINCE THEN, ANECDOTAL INFORMATION HAS BEEN COLLECTED INDICATING THAT THE REASONS FOR THE DECLINE IN TICKETING ARE A RESULT OF OFFICERS WORKING THE BEAT, HAVING LESS TIME TO PERFORM TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT DUTIES.
THE CITY HAS INCREASED THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS PERFORMING ADMINISTRATIVE OR DETECTIVE FUNCTIONS AND NOT INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE FORCE TO OFFSET THOSE CHANGES.
FURTHER COMPLEX AND COMPLICATED TECHNOLOGY THAT WAS ONCE THOUGHT TO BE A FORCE MULTIPLIER IS NOW CONSUMING MORE OF THE OFFICER'S TIME THAN EVER BEFORE.
THIS INCLUDES IMPLEMENTATION OF AN AUTOMATED REPORTING SYSTEM THAT HAS NUMEROUS DOCUMENTED ISSUES AND A SIGNIFICANT MOVE TOWARDS IN-CAR HEADS DOWN, COMPUTER-BASED TRAINING.
FINALLY, THE CITY IS SUPPORTING MORE JOINT TASK FORCE EFFORTS THAN EVER BEFORE AND REQUIRES MORE TRAINING PER YEAR FOR EACH OFFICER THAN EVER BEFORE TO SUPPORT PERFORMING A MORE DIVERSE SET OF ACTIVITIES.
TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT SIMPLY ISN'T THE PRIORITY IT ONCE WAS OF THE EXPANDING NUMBER OF ACTIVITIES BEING PERFORMED BY CONSTRAINED NUMBER OF BEAT OFFICERS.
THE COMMENTS OF THE FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE ON 28 AUGUST, 2023 AT THE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AGAIN HIGHLIGHTED OF THE POLICE DIVISION STAFFING ISSUES THAT PLAGUE OUR CITY.
THE MORALE OF THE POLICE FORCE IS IN DECLINE.
THERE IS A CURRENT 10% OFFICER VACANCY RATE.
NUMEROUS RETIREMENTS ARE ANTICIPATED.
THE CANDIDATE AND FILL PROCESS IS ANTIQUATED AND SLOW.
AND THE APPARENT LACK OF PRIORITY ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY, COMBINED WITH THE LACK OF PROGRESS, RESPONDING TO LONGSTANDING QUESTIONS FROM VARIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THE PUBLIC IS DISTRESSING TO BETTER.
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, PAUL.
NEXT, NUMBER EIGHT, CITIZENS' S SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS. YES.
IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO SURE.
MR. SCHAFER, I AGREE WITH, UH, WHAT YOU STATED.
I THINK THAT, UH, WE ARE UNDERSTAFFED UNDER MAN AND WE'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE RIGHT THINGS.
UM, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD A TRAFFIC CONTROL UNIT TO OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART WITH WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH, UH, FOUR OFFICERS ON THAT TRAFFIC CONTROL UNIT.
THIS WOULD BE AN ADDITION TO WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, UM, FUNDED.
AND, UH, I'D LIKE THAT TO BE, UH, PUT IN PLACE IMMEDIATELY.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I WOULD HOPE TO HAVE SOME SUPPORT WITH THAT.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? THERE IS A SECOND.
MAYOR, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE BEING RAISED BY MR? YES.
I WOULD LIKE TO LET THE NEW CITY MANAGER AND THE POLICE CHIEF TIME TO WORK ON THIS.
I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF US TELLING THE POLICE CHIEF WHAT TO DO WITH THIS STAFF AT THIS TIME UNTIL I HEAR MORE INFORMATION.
UM, I THINK THAT THE NEEDS NEED TO BE JUSTIFIED THROUGH THE, UM, POLICE CHIEF AND THE CITY MANAGER.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT, UH, THEY ARE WORKING THIS ISSUE AND I, I ANTICIPATE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION SOON AND I DO NOT SUPPORT, UM, ADDING MORE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE GOT A BUDGET, WE HAVE A BUDGET EXERCISE COMING UP IN THE NEXT MONTH, AND THAT'S WHEN IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO DISCUSS.
UM, AS I WAS UNDER THE WEATHER AND STILL RECOVERING, UH, FROM
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AN ILLNESS, UM, MY COMMENTS AND DATA WAS NOT PROVIDED AT THE LAST WORK SESSION, THEREFORE, I MAKE THEM DURING THIS DISCUSSION OPPORTUNITY.I APPLAUD, UH, COUNCIL, UH, COUNCILMAN BERG SAYING, UH, THAT WE NEED TO BE DATA DRIVEN, WHICH IS THUS WHY THE INFORMATION SUPPLIED FROM GOVERNING.COM AND THE F B I, UM, ADVISES THAT NATIONWIDE, THE RATE OF SWORN OFFICERS SHOULD BE 2.4 PER 1000.
IF WE LOOK AT THE TOTAL POPULATION OF, UH, TOWNS, UH, AND, UM, CITIES, UM, IN COMPARISON TO HUBER HEIGHTS, SUCH AS, UM, UH, GROWING, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UH, SPRINGFIELD, KETTERING, HAMILTON, LAKEWOOD, UM, AND SEVERAL OTHERS, UM, WE ARE AT THE VERY BOTTOM PER CAPITA WHEN IT COMES TO OFFICERS PER POPULATION.
UH, AGAIN, THIS INFORMATION WAS SUPPLIED, UM, ACCORDING TO THE FBI.GOV IN 2022.
UH, AND THE NATIONWIDE, UM, RESULTS.
CURRENTLY, WE HAVE 55 SWORN POSITIONS, UM, UH, FUNDED.
UH, WE HAVE 50 AS WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, TO, UM, PHIL FIVE.
CURRENTLY THE 2002, UH, INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION, UH, CHIEFS OF POLICE REPORT, UM, RECOMMENDS I BELIEVE 63 SWORN PERSONNEL.
ADDITIONALLY, UM, WHEN MY QUESTION AND COMMENTS WERE, UM, UH, RAISED, UH, REGARDING, UH, THE I C M A C P S M REPORT, UM, FOR, FOR PUBLIC SAFETY MANAGEMENT, UH, REGARDING THE RULE OF 60 AND IN FURTHER DETAILS, UM, OF THE SWORN OFFICERS, UM, UH, FOR THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, UM, IT IS, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, THAT, UH, THAT NUMBER, UM, IS SOMEWHERE IN THE BALLPARK OF 72.
UM, MERIT IS, IT IS MY TIME THAT I SUPPORT YOUR, UM, EFFORTS PUBLICLY AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, UH, TO INSTALL A TRAFFIC CONTROL UNIT WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
IN ADDITION TO WHATEVER PLANS COME UP TOWARDS THE END OF THIS YEAR, WE OWE IT TO OUR COMMUNITY, WE OWE IT TO OUR RESIDENTS, WE OWE IT TO OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, UM, THAT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT POLICE PERSONNEL, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF WHAT HAPPENED AT THIS THIS PAST FRIDAY.
UM, I THINK WE NEED TO ENGAGE, UH, FURTHER CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT WHEN IT COMES TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR BUSINESS OWNERS, AND WE DEFINITELY NEED TO SHOW OUR RESIDENTS THAT WE ARE PUTTING OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD AND THAT WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR AS THIS COUNCIL, AS POLICY MAKERS.
MAYOR, THAT'S ALL MY DISCUSSION POINTS AT THIS TIME.
I WELCOME A VOTE AT THIS TIME TO MOVE THIS ITEM FORWARD.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, TO, UH, DATA AT HAND AND, AND WHATNOT, WE HAVE DATA THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S VERY OLD.
IT'S 21 YEARS OLD THAT SAYS, WE'RE UNDERSTAFFED, WE'RE UNDERMANNED.
AND I GUARANTEE THOSE NUMBERS HAVE ONLY GONE UP SINCE THAT TIME.
UH, THIS IS BY NO MEANS A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO A LOT FURTHER THAN THIS.
THIS IS JUST SIMPLY A FIRST STEP, A SMALL STEP TO HELP PROVIDE SOME RELIEF WITHIN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND PROVIDE SOME COMFORT TO OUR RESIDENTS FOR TRAFFIC SITUATIONS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ED? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UM, WITH THE, UM, SPEECH THAT THE ATTORNEY BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL, UH, IN REGARD TO THE POLICE OFFICERS, UM, HIS STATEMENT WAS, POLICE OFFICERS FEEL THAT THEY ARE NOT SUPPORTED, NO SUPPORT WHATSOEVER.
AND, UH, THIS IS, I THINK, A REALLY GOOD IDEA.
UH, COUNCILMAN SHAW, THANK YOU FOR THE DATA THAT YOU'VE, UH, MENTIONED.
I'M GLAD YOU'RE FEELING BETTER.
UH, BUT THIS DATA IS, UH, THE FIRST STEP.
UH, THIS ACTION I THINK IS A REALLY GOOD FIRST STEP TO SHOW THE POLICE THAT THEY ARE SUPPORTING THIS COMMUNITY.
WE'RE DOWN FIVE POLICE OFFICERS ALREADY AT 50, AND THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY PAID FOR.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT TYPE OF ISSUE.
I THINK ADDING ADDITIONAL FOUR IN A POLICE UNIT, UH, REALLY DOES, UH, TAKE EFFECT AND SHOW THAT KIND OF SUPPORT THAT WE NEED, UH, FOR THE POLICE.
NOT JUST SAYING, WE SUPPORT YOU, WE SUPPORT YOU, AND THEN THE ACTION SAYS NO.
SO WITH THAT, UM, I COULDN'T, UM, BE MORE PROUD ON SEPTEMBER 11TH TO SUPPORT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS THAT BADLY NEED IN OUR CITY.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH, UM, COUNCILMAN SHAW, OTTO AND LYONS.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO BRING THIS TO A VOTE AND GET MORE POLICE OFFICERS IN ANY DISCUSSION.
TELL YOU, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE, MS. BAKER? NO.
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NO.I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO THEN IS HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MR. ZICK BASED AROUND, UM, NUMBER ONE, HIRING PRACTICES AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO, TO SPEED THAT UP WITHOUT, UM, COMPROMISING THE QUALITY OF THE APPLICANTS THAT, THAT WE WOULD BRING TO THE TABLE.
I THINK THAT'S A IMPORTANT DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE.
UH, I THINK WE CERTAINLY NEED TO GET THE, UM, INPUT FROM THE POLICE CHIEF ON, UH, WHERE THESE OFFICERS, UH, WOULD BE.
I THINK THE, THE IDEA OF THE TRAFFIC UNIT WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT, WE THINK THAT'S A, A GOOD ID.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEING A GOOD IDEA.
UM, HOWEVER, I THINK WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'VE HEARD IS OVERTIME THAT'S BEEN THE, THE PROBLEM.
SO IF WE HIRE A TRAFFIC CONTROL UNIT, AND THAT'S KIND OF SPECIFICALLY WHAT THEY'RE BEING HIRED FOR, I WANNA KNOW DOES THAT RELIEVE SOME OF THE ISSUES AND THE PROBLEMS THAT, THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS AND THE F O P HAVE EXPRESSED? SO I'M NOT SURE THAT WE KNOW THAT THAT'S, THAT THAT'S GOING TO WORK.
SO, UM, I THINK LOTS OF DISCUSSION NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH THAT.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, UM, BEFORE THIS LEGISLATION IS APPROVED, AND BEFORE I SIGN IT, UH, I'D LIKE TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY HOW THAT TRAFFIC CONTROL UNIT'S GONNA WORK BASED ON INPUT FROM THE CHIEF.
DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO, TO NOT ASSIGN THEM AS A TRAFFIC CONTROL UNIT AND JUST LET THE CHIEF DETERMINE WHERE THOSE OFFICERS NEED TO GO? UH, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT PRETTY SPECIFIC IN WHATEVER LEGISLATION COMES FORWARD WITH THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, BEFORE I SIGN IT.
SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THESE, UH, ADDITIONAL RESOURCES ARE, ARE GONNA BE GOING.
UM, 'CAUSE I DID HEAR ADDITIONAL COPS PLUS THE TRAFFICK UNIT, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WITH WHATEVER WE'RE DOING, IF WE'RE EXPENDING THESE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES ON THIS, THAT, UH, THIS IS BEING ALLOCATED IN THE RIGHT WAY AND THE PROPER WAY TO, TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE HEARD AND THE CONCERNS WE'VE HEARD FROM THE F O P.
SO I'D, I'D APPRECIATE IF WE HAVE, UH, VERY, VERY CLEAR DIRECTION ON THAT.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK FORWARD, FORWARD TO DISCUSSING.
I THINK WE MAY NEED TO ASK THE LAW DIRECTOR TO JUST COMMENT ON THE, UH, PRACTICALITY OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS.
'CAUSE THERE, THERE IS NO LEGISLATION THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD TO THIS MATTER.
SO, UH, HOW THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED LEGISLATIVELY TO, TO, UH, TO IMPLEMENT.
BECAUSE, UH, RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE A MOTION TO HIRE.
BUT THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART, THE STAFFING AND SALARY, UH, RANGES AND WAGE LEVELS AND ALL THAT HAS NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED LEGISLATIVELY.
THAT, AND THAT BRINGS ANOTHER QUESTION, UM, FUNDING SOURCE AT ONE POINT? NO.
SO AT ONE POINT I REMEMBER HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT OUR ORG CHART WAS UP TO DATE AND THAT POSITIONS WERE FUNDED PRIOR TO CHANGING THE ORG CHART OR ADDING PEOPLE.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE DISCUSSION THAT, 'CAUSE I BELIEVE WE CHANGED THAT BY LEGISLATION A FEW YEARS AGO BECAUSE THE CONCERN FROM COUNCIL AT THE TIME WAS WE HAD ALL THESE POSITIONS ON THE ORG CHART.
WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS WORKING HERE, WHO WASN'T BECAUSE WE HAD ALL THESE POSITIONS, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM WERE FUNDED.
SO WE SPECIFICALLY PASSED LEGISLATION WHILE MR. SCHOMER WAS THE CITY MANAGER TO ADDRESS THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PASSING LEGISLATION NOW THAT CONTRADICTS LEGISLATION THAT WE ALREADY PASSED PREVIOUSLY.
SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THAT ORG CHART NEEDS TO BE UPDATED, THOSE POSITIONS NEED TO BE FUNDED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN OUR COMPLIANCE OF THE OWN LEGISLATION THAT WE PASSED.
SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH AS WELL.
SO I THINK THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT MOVING FORWARD, BUT IT'S CLEAR COUNSEL'S EXPRESSED THE DIRECTION, UH, OF ADDITIONAL OFFICERS.
I JUST THINK WE GOTTA WORK OUT THE DETAILS ON, ON THE BEST WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
AND I THINK THE DETAILS WILL BE WORKED OUT HOPEFULLY AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION, MAYOR, BECAUSE ALL WE'VE DONE TONIGHT IS PASS A MOTION AND THERE'S LEGISLATION THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.
SO DAVE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD HAVE PREPARED BY THE NEXT WORK SESSION FOR COUNCIL'S REVIEW? LEMME MAKE SURE.
I MEAN, AS YOU POINTED OUT, MR. CAMPBELL, UH, I MEAN I'M TAKING THIS MOTION MORE AS A DIRECTIVE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY LEGISLATION NEEDS TO BE PREPARED AS TONY INDICATED, UH, AS WELL, IN ORDER TO MODIFY THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART, APPARENTLY THERE'S SOME HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF AS WELL, THAT SHOULD PROBABLY BE REVIEWED AND LOOKED AT.
SO WE CAN TAKE THAT AND GET BACK TO COUNSEL.
BUT BY THE NEXT WORK SESSION, YOU'D HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO HAVE YEAH.
NANCY, UM, TONY, WHEN DO WE START THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS? UH, THAT'D BE A QUESTION FOR BRIAN.
MR. Z OR MR. JANKOWSKI? I KNOW INTERNALLY
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STAFF HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED THEIR DEPARTMENTAL AND DIVISION BUDGETS.UM, SO TYPICALLY IT KICKS OFF IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT IN OCTOBER.
I BELIEVE WE GOT AN EMAIL FROM MR. BELL THAT HE'S SENT OUT THE BUDGET SPREADSHEETS FOR EVERYBODY TO WORK THROUGH.
I THINK IT'S PROBABLY THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 11TH, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
AND, AND THAT WILL FALL RIGHT IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
SO, WHICH WAS MY REASON FOR VOTING NO BECAUSE I SUPPORT ADDITIONAL POLICE, BUT JUST PROCESS THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING, IT'S GONNA OVERLAP.
WHAT, AND, AND THEY HAVE TO COME UP WITH, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT THE FUNDING, THE CHANGE IN THE, UM, IN THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART, THE PAY GRADES, EVERYTHING.
AND THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN UNTIL WE OFFICIALLY START INTO THE BUDGET CYCLE ANYWAY.
YES, GLEN, UM, AGAIN, THE MOTION WAS TO ADD THE TRAFFIC CONTROL UNIT WITH FOUR MEMBERS TO OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART TO BE FUNDED.
UM, SO TONY, I ASSUME YOU WOULD BE BRINGING LEGISLATION TO CODIFY THOSE SPECIFIC ITEMS? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE THE MOTION ITSELF DOES NOT HAVE THE CORRECT, UH, DESIRED EFFECT IN TERMS OF, UH, IMPLEMENTATION.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY BETWEEN DAVE AND UM, MR. ZICK AND MYSELF, WE CAN, UH, UH, PREPARE STANDARD LEGISLATION THAT WOULD ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS AND BRING THAT BACK BEFORE COUNSEL AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION.
UM, THE, I I DON'T WANT TO GET BOGGED DOWN INTO THE DETAILS.
WHENEVER WE ADD ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES, UM, PART OF THE PROCESS WE GO THROUGH, WE CHANGE THE ORG CHART, WE HAVE LEGISLATION, UH, WE HAVE THE READING IN PUBLIC, SO THAT IS NORMAL PROCEDURE FOR COUNSEL.
UH, I ALSO DON'T WANT TO GET BOGGED DOWN INTO THE DIFFERENCES.
UH, THIS IS TO SHOW IMMEDIATE SUPPORT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, WITH THE FUNDING OF THE FOUR ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS WHILE WE'RE BACKFILLING THE FIVE THAT HAVE BEEN MISSING FOR QUITE A WHILE.
AND MR. ZICK, I KNOW THAT, UH, WITH, UH, COUNSELS SPEAKING TONIGHT, UM, I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU AND CHIEF LIGHTNER WOULD BE BRINGING EACH MEETING, UM, AN UPDATE, A DETAILED UPDATE ABOUT WHERE THOSE FIVE POSITIONS ARE CURRENTLY AND THEIR HIRING.
AND OF COURSE THEY WOULD BE THE MOST, UM, QUALIFIED POLICE OFFICERS, UM, FOR THE BEST POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTRY.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT COUNSEL, UH, CONTINUES TO FO FOCUS ON THAT.
SO BRINGING THOSE UP, UH, WOULD CONTINUE AS WE GO THROUGH, UH, THIS PRACTICE CURRENTLY.
AND THEN OF COURSE, MR. ZICK, THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT'S BEEN GOING ON AND I'M GUESSING PART OF THE HOPE IS TO GET THIS RESOLVED BEFORE YOU GET STARTED AND THEN THAT GIVES YOU THE TIME TO WORK ON THE BUDGET AND BRING ANY ADDITIONAL STAFFING, UH, TO COUNSEL FOR THE 2024 BUDGET.
UH, BUT THIS ONE IS TO GET IT MOVING.
DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE CAN GET, UH, POLICE OFFICERS HIRED.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON THE CURRENT FIVE.
HOPEFULLY WE'RE READY TO HIRE THEM IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
AND WE ONLY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE FOUR IN THE TRAFFIC, UH, DEPARTMENT.
BUT, UH, WITH THAT MAYOR, UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION, UH, AND THE UPDATES FOR THOSE HIRINGS.
YES, ANITA? YEAH, I, I THINK THE FOUR IMMEDIATE, AND I EXPECT THAT WE, UM, SERIOUSLY TAKE A LOOK AT HOW MANY MORE WE NEED TO HIRE IN THIS NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, BECAUSE I FEEL IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE MORE THAN THE FOUR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW.
UM, WE NEED TO PLAY SOME CATCH UP.
OKAY, SO TONY, DO YOU HAVE A, AN I SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AREN'T GETTING BOGGED DOWN THE DETAILS, SO I KNOW, SO GLENN, I HEARD YOU SAY THE, YOUR MOTION WAS SPECIFIC TO FOUR TRAFFIC FOR ADDITIONAL OFFICERS TO SUPPORT A TRAFFIC CONTROL UNIT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY COULD BE STANDARD OFFICERS THAT ARE ROTATED IN OUTTA THAT TRAFFIC CONTROL UNIT THAT'S A STANDING UNIT OR THAT THOSE ARE THE SPECIFICS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING NEED FOUR STANDARD STANDARD OFFICERS.
WE WANT NINE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS AND FOUR OF THEM NAMED AS NO, FOUR ADDITIONAL OFFICERS.
THAT'S WHY I SAID, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE STILL NEED FIVE.
WELL, WE STILL GOTTA HIRE THE FIVE.
SO, SO FROM NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT NINE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS.
AND THEN OUT OF THOSE NINE, FOUR OF THOSE BE SUBJECT TO OR DETERMINED TO BE PART OF A TRAFFIC CONTROL UNIT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR? WELL, THEY, THOSE INDIVIDUALS DON'T, WOULDN'T HAVE TO SPECIFICALLY DO THAT.
I MEAN, THE UNIT COULD BE SET UP AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WOULD ROTATE OFFICERS THROUGH OR WHATNOT, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I, I I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, I WOULD ASSUME THEY WOULD BE STANDARD PATROL OFFICERS.
SO I THINK I, I DON'T WANNA GET DOWN BOGGED IN THE DETAILS EITHER, BUT
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I THINK THOSE ARE DETAILS WE NEED TO KNOW AS PART OF THE, PART OF THE LEGISLATION.DO WE HAVE, UH, SO NEXT UP IS I NUMBER EIGHT CITIZENS TREASURER TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS? IS THERE ANYONE TO SPEAK TO? THERE ARE NONE.
[9. City Manager Report]
MANAGER REPORT AND WELL, UH, WELCOME.UH, JUST A FEW ITEMS LAST WEEK, CONSTRUCTION BEGAN ON THE LAST PHASE OF THE OLD TROY PIKE 2 0 2 IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
UH, TO MINIMIZE THE PROJECT'S IMPACT STAFF, ENGINEERS AND CONTRACTORS WILL BE MEETING ON SITE TOMORROW TO DISCUSS ADDITIONAL METHODS TO PROVIDE MORE CONSISTENT MOVEMENT OF TRAFFIC.
SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, THE CITY COMMISSIONED A TRAFFIC STUDY WITH T E C ENGINEERING, UH, TO EVALUATE TRAFFIC FLOW FROM EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD TO TAYLORSVILLE ROAD.
UH, THE PURPOSE OF THE STUDY WAS TO EVALUATE A VARIETY OF POTENTIAL OPTIONS TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC MOVEMENT ON OLD TROY PIKE BETWEEN WAYNE TOWN MARYLEE AND TAYLORSVILLE ROAD.
THE INITIAL DRAFT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THIS STUDY WERE SUBMITTED LATE LAST WEEK AND ARE NOW BEING REVIEWED BY STAFF.
UM, EXPECT A PRESENTATION TO COUNSEL AT THE, UH, UPCOMING WORK SESSION.
UH, THIRD LAST WEEK, THE CITY CONCLUDED FINAL INTERVIEWS FOR THE POSITION OF PARKS MANAGER.
UH, FINALS IS ANTICIPATED TO BE IDENTIFIED AS, UH, AN EMPLOYMENT OFFER MADE YET THIS WEEK.
FOURTH, OUR ANNUAL HYDRANT FLUSHING BEGINS NEXT WEEK, UH, MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 18TH.
DETAILS ABOUT THIS PROCESS AND THE SCHEDULE OF AREA FLUSHINGS WILL BE POSTED TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE LATER THIS WEEK.
AND THEN FINALLY, I WOULD REMIND EVERYONE THAT FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 15TH IS ANOTHER FAMILY MOVIE NIGHT AT THE EIBERG AMPHITHEATER.
THIS MONTH'S MOVIE IS THE DISNEY ANIMATION CLASSIC ALADDIN.
THE MOVIE STARTS AT DUSK AND THERE WILL BE FAMILY ACTIVITIES PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MOVIE.
THE EVENTS FREE TO THE PUBLIC AND GUESTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO BRING BLANKETS AND CHAIRS.
UH, MORE INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE AT THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
UH, MR. MAYOR, I'VE ASKED CHIEF LIGHTNER TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
UH, WOULD YOU PLEASE ALLOW CHIEF A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO SPEAK? OF COURSE.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MYSELF TO THOSE HERE IN THE ROOM AND ONLINE THAT DON'T KNOW WHO I AM.
I'M MARK LIGHTNER, AND I'M YOUR POLICE CHIEF.
I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
I DO NOT TEND FOR THIS TO BE A QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION.
I'M SIMPLY HERE TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT HEBREW HEIGHTS REMAINS ONE OF THE SAFEST COMMUNITIES IN THE MIAMI VALLEY.
AFTER EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID, WE ARE GATHERING AND COLLECTING DATA.
ONCE COMPLETE, THE DATA WILL BE ANALYZED AND A PLAN WILL BE PUT INTO PLACE.
MR. CAMPBELL MENTIONED IN A RECENT MEETING, THE NEED FOR A PLAN.
I WILL SIT DOWN WITH THE CITY MANAGER TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT THAT PLAN.
I WILL BE BACK IN THE FUTURE TO PROVIDE COUNSEL AND THE COMMUNITY WITH THE RESULTS OF OUR FINDINGS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND STAY SAFE, CHIEF.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR UPDATING THE COMMUNITY.
NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 10, PENDING BUSINESS.
AND NEXT WE HAVE IT'S ITEM 10 A ITEM.
MAYOR, I'M SORRY, I HAD QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY MANAGER REGARDING THIS REPORT.
YES, I THINK, I THINK WE MAY HAVE MISSED THAT STEP.
UM, THANK YOU, UH, UH, MR. CITY MANAGER AND, UH, WELCOME AGAIN.
I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA HEAR THAT A LOT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS IN WEEK.
YES, I APPRECIATE IT ACTUALLY.
UM, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE THE UNREDACTED TRAFFIC STUDY FROM T E C EMAILED OUT TO ALL OF COUNCIL AS SOON AS POSSIBLE? I KNOW, AND I'M SURE IT'S GONNA BE A PART OF THE READ AHEAD FOR THE UPCOMING WORK SESSION.
I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF TECHNICAL INFORMATION IN THERE, A LOT OF DIAGRAMS, A LOT OF WORDS.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AS MUCH TIME AS POSSIBLE TO DIVE THROUGH THAT BEFORE THAT WORK SESSION TO PRESENT ALL OF MY QUESTIONS, UH, RESEARCH AND DATA, UM, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT FOR THE RESIDENTS.
I CAN, UH, CHECK, I'LL WORK WITH CITY STAFF TOMORROW MORNING AT OUR STAFF MEETING AND, UH, GET THAT TOGETHER FOR YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, NEXT ITEM 10
[ An Ordinance Amending Certain Sections Of Part Eleven, Planning And Zoning Code, Of The City Code Of Huber Heights (Case TA 23-14A). (second reading)]
A TONY ITEM 10 A.AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CERTAIN SECTIONS OF PART 11 PLANNING AGAINST ZONING CODE, THE CITY CODE OF HUBER HEIGHTS AND CASE TA 23 DASH 14 A AT THE SECOND READING.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? THIS CHANGES TO ADDRESS THE BRICK AND STONE REQUIRED AND CITY CODE TO REFLECT BOTH PAST PRACTICE AND CURRENT BUILDING STANDARDS.
THERE WAS A COUNCIL, UH, WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT THIS ITEM THIS EVENING.
SINCE THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION.
IS THERE A MOTION DONE? I WILL MOVE.
UM, FIRST, IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY, SECOND.
AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? OKAY, TONY.
AND THE MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
[ An Ordinance To Approve An Economic Development Plan And To State That The City May Hereafter Proceed With Approval Of A Tax Increment Financing Incentive District. (second reading)]
10 B.ITEM 10 B IN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE AN
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ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND TO STATE THAT THE CITY MAY HEREAFTER PROCEED WITH APPROVAL OF A TAX INCREMENT FINANCING INCENTIVE DISTRICT AT THE SECOND READING.THIS IS A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE MION MEADOWS SITE TO INCLUDE DOGTOWN AND THE CR DAYTON STRIP MALL.
THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORK SESSION WAS ADOPTION.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? TONY.
MOTION ALSO CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
[ A Motion To Direct The Clerk Of Council To Respond To The Ohio Division Of Liquor Control With No Objections In Reference To The Transfer Of Liquor Permit #0553235630005 For Marian Lanes, Inc. At 6170 Brandt Pike, Huber Heights, Ohio, 45424 To Liquor Permit #7466355 For Rollhouse Huber Heights, LLC At 6170 Brandt Pike, Huber Heights, Ohio 45424.]
11, NEW BUSINESS ITEM 11.A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CLERK OF COUNSEL TO RESPOND TO THE OHIO DIVISION OF LIQUOR CONTROL WITH NO OBJECTIONS AND REFERENCE TO THE TRANSFER OF LIQUOR.
PERMIT NUMBER 0 5 5 3 2 3 5 6 3 0 0 0 5 FOR MARION LANES INCORPORATED AT 6 1 7 0.
GRANT PIKE, HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO 4 5 4 2 4 TO LIQUOR PERMIT NUMBER 7 4 6 6 3 5 5 FOR ROLL HOUSE HUBER HEIGHTS, L L C AT 61 70 BRANT PIKE, HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO.
AND, UH, THE COUNCIL WORK, COUNCIL WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT THIS ITEM AS WELL.
IS THERE A MOTION? GLEN? SO MOVED.
AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS LIQUOR PERMIT? OKAY.
MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO AND NEXT IS ITEM
[ A Public Hearing Scheduled For September 11, 2023 By The Huber Heights City Council For Case BDP 23-17. The Applicant Is BP-OTP, LLC. The Applicant Is Requesting Approval Of A Rezoning From Office (O1) To Planned Commercial (PC) And To Approve A Basic Development Plan For Property Located At 4949 Chambersburg Road And Further Described As Parcel Number P70 04004 0017 On The Montgomery County Auditor's Map.]
11 B.ITEM 11 B, A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2023 BY THE HUB RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE B DP 23 DASH 17.
THE APPLICANT, APPLICANT IS BP DASH O TP, L L C.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF REZONING FROM OFFICE OH ONE TO PLAN COMMERCIAL PC AND TO APPROVE A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4 9 4 9 CHAMBERSBURG ROAD AND FURTHER DESCRIBED AS PARCEL NUMBER P 7 0 0 4 0 4 0 0 1 7 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP.
AND THIS PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2023 BY THE RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE B D P 23 DASH 17 IS NOW OPEN.
I'D LIKE TO CALL ON OUR CITY STAFF TO MAKE THE INITIAL PRESENTATION.
AARON, HOW ARE YOU THIS EVENING? I'M WELL, MAYOR.
SO THIS IS A, UH, 5.41 ACRE SITE, UH, CURRENTLY ZONED, UH, PLANNING COMMERCIAL AND GENERAL OFFICE.
ABOUT HALF OF THE SITE IS ZONED CORRECTLY.
THE OTHER HALF, UH, IS PART OF THIS CASE, WHICH IS A REZONING.
THE EXISTING LAND USE IS SINGLE FAMILY HOME, ALONG WITH VACANT LAND TO THE NORTH.
UH, THE SURROUNDING ZONING INCLUDES, UH, OFFICE, UH, R ONE RESIDENTIAL R FOUR RESIDENTIAL TO THE, UH, EAST, UH, AS WELL AS PLAN COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH.
SO THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A REZONING OF APPROXIMATELY 2.4 ACRES FROM OH ONE TO PLAN COMMERCIAL, UH, AND APPROVAL OF A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF 5.41 ACRES TO FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF, UH, ROUGHLY 6,000 SQUARE FOOT WAWA CONVENIENCE STORE WITH, UH, FUELING PUMPS.
SO, UH, THIS IS THE AREA THAT'S ZONED CORRECTLY HERE AT THE CORNER, WHICH IS PLANNED COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH IS ALSO PLANNED COMMERCIAL.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS BUYING THIS ENTIRE SECTION OF WHICH OUTLINED IN THE DASHED RED IS THE PART OF THE BASIC, UM, IS WHAT IS BEING APPROVED AS PART OF THE BASIC, UH, DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE REZONING IS FOR THIS LITTLE SECTION OF, UH, OH ONE OFFICE, OR YEAH, OFFICE.
SO THIS IS THE SITE LOOKING TO THE NORTH, UH, FROM THE WALGREENS PARKING LOT.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT DOES SLOPE, UM, FROM, UH, EAST TO WEST UP THE HILL.
UH, YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT ON THE, UH, ON THE TOPO MAP.
UH, HERE, THERE IS, UH, ABOUT A 30 FOOT GRADIENT CHANGE FROM, UH, THE INTERSECTION TO THE PLATEAU WHERE THE, UH, STORE WILL BE BUILT, UH, AFTER FINAL GRADING.
UH, IT'S ONLY ABOUT A 10 FOOT RISE FROM WHERE THE ENTRANCE WILL BE, UM, BOTH ON, UH, OFF OF, UH, CHAMBERSBURG AND THEN AROUND A 12 FOOT RISE WHERE THE ENTRANCE WILL BE.
SORRY, UP HERE A LITTLE BIT, UH, FOR, UM, OFF OF OLD TROY PIKE.
SO, UH, LIKE I SAID, APPROXIMATELY HALF OF THE SITE IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
UH, AND IT'S A DENSELY WOODED LOT.
THERE IS A STEEP GRADE CHANGE.
UM, THE REQUIRED GRADING WILL END ABOUT 80 FEET, UM, FROM THE WEST PROPERTY LINE, UH, AND THEN THIS WOULD HAVE, THAT GRADING WOULD HAVE NO IMPACT TO THE HOME TO THE NORTH.
UM, THE SITE DOES HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE NECESSARY UTILITIES.
ONCE THE, UH, THE FACILITY WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED, UH, THERE WOULD BE AN ENTRANCE OFF OF CHAMBERSBURG.
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UH, AND THEN OFF OF OLD TROY PIKE HERE, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE, THERE'S ABOUT A 16 FOOT DROP, UM, BETWEEN THE CURRENT ELEVATION ON THE WEST SIDE TO THE, WHERE THE SITE WILL BE.UH, IT'LL BE LANDSCAPED, UH, ALONG THE PERIMETER HERE.
THE SITE PLAN DOES SHOW STREET TREES, BUT THEY'RE NOT ALONG THE STREET.
UH, AS I DISCUSSED DURING THE, UH, WORK SESSION, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS FOR US TO WORK WITH, UH, THE, UH, THE ENGINEER AND THE LANDSCAPE DESIGNER, UH, FOR FINAL PLACEMENT OF THOSE STREET TREES BECAUSE WE ARE GONNA BE WIDENING, UM, CHAMBERSBURG ROAD.
UH, THIS IS THE ELEVATION OF THE STORE, UH, THAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM OLD TROY PIKE.
UH, THIS IS THE SITE ELEVATION THAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM CHAMBERSBURG.
UH, AS FAR AS THE REZONING ANALYSIS AND THE CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST SITES THAT HAS GONE THROUGH UNDER OUR NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, IT IS IN THE ESTATE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AREA, WHICH TY TYPICALLY RECOGNIZES WHERE A LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT IS UNLIKELY TO OCCUR.
AND LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL IS MORE IMPORTANT.
THAT REALLY APPLIES TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE ESTATE DISTRICT BECAUSE OF, UH, SOME ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS DEALING WITH FLOODING AND UTILITIES.
THIS IS ON THE FAR EAST END OF THAT ESTATE DISTRICT, WHICH DOESN'T, UH, REALLY APPLY HERE.
THERE ARE REALLY NO ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS ON THIS SITE.
SO THE GREEN IS THE, UH, THE ESTATE DISTRICT.
YOU CAN SEE IT RUN NORTH SOUTH HERE ALONG THE, THE WEST EDGE OF THE CORPORATE LIMITS.
UH, THIS IS THE SITE, UH, SO IT'S KIND OF A PENINSULA SURROUNDED BY THE, UH, THE SOUTH TOWN, UM, PATTERN DISTRICT.
UH, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE THE ASSESS THE ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS TO ALLOW FOR THAT INCREMENTAL, UH, CONTEXTUALLY SENSITIVE, UH, NON-RESIDENTIAL USES.
UH, AND STAFF FEELS THAT THAT IS APPROPRIATE HERE AT THE CORNER OF, UM, OLD TROY PIKE IN CHAMBERSBURG.
SO THE SITE, AS I MENTIONED, SITS ON THE EAST END OF THAT PATTERN.
DISTRICT IS NOT SUBJECT TO FLOODING ISSUES, UH, GIVEN THE LOCATION OF THE SITE, ITS CONTEXT WITHIN THE ESTATE LOT.
UH, STAFF FEELS THAT THE REZONING FROM OH ONE TO PLAN COMMERCIAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AS FAR AS THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UM, ANALYSIS, THE APPLICANT'S HAS SUBMITTED ALL OF THEIR REQUIRED DOCUMENTATIONS.
UH, THE RETAIL USE, UH, AND FILLING STATIONS ARE PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED IN THE PLANNED COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
UH, THE SITE PLAN MEETS ALL OF THE PARKING, UH, BUILDINGS, SETBACK AND YARD REQUIREMENTS I MENTIONED.
UH, SO THERE ARE 19 STREET TREES REQUIRED.
WE WANNA WORK DURING THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT, UH, PLAN PHASE WITH THE APPLICANT TO, UH, REALLY WORK ON PLACEMENT, UM, MORE APPROPRIATE PLACEMENT.
UM, SO THERE WAS A LIGHTING PLAN, UH, IT WAS SUBMITTED THAT MEETS ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, BUILDING DESIGN ALSO SUBSTANTIALLY MEETS THE EXTERIOR BUILDING RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, IT'S ABOUT 60%, 68% MASONRY.
UH, THE, THE FRONT FACADE IS ABOUT 78%, UH, MASONRY AND GLAZING.
UH, AND THEN THE, THE BALANCE IS A KIND OF A WOOD COMPOSITE SIDING MIX.
UH, ALL UTILITIES WILL BE PLACED BELOW, BELOW GRADE.
THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING, UH, MORE SPACES THAN ARE REQUIRED.
THE LANDSCAPING PLAN APPEARS TO MEET THE, UM, THE REQUIREMENTS, BUT WILL BE VERIFIED DURING THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT SUBMISSION.
THERE WAS NOT A SIGNED PACKAGE SUBMITTED YET, UH, BUT THAT WILL BE, UH, WHAT IS INDICATED ARE THREE WALL SIGNS AND TWO MONUMENT SIGNS, WHICH ARE PRETTY TYPICAL.
UM, BUT THAT WILL BE REPLAY REVIEWED WITH PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, AT THE NEXT, UH, STEP.
SO THERE WERE A COUPLE COMMUNITY CONCERNS.
ONE, UH, WAS CONCERN ABOUT ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AND VISIBILITY ON, UH, CHAMBERSBURG.
UH, THE SECOND WAS THE VISIBILITY OF TRUCKS TURNING, UH, REALLY FUELING TRUCKS TURNING, UH, ONTO OLD TROY PIKE FROM THIS SITE.
UH, AND THEN CONCERN FROM THE WEST NEIGHBOR ABOUT NOISE AND LIGHT FROM THE SITE.
SO, ADDRESSING CHAMBERSBURG ROAD, UM, IN 2022, THE CITY WAS AWARDED APPROXIMATELY, UH, $2.2 MILLION TO WIDEN CHAMBERSBURG AND ADDRESS THE ROAD GEOMETRY.
THERE IS KIND OF A HUMP AS YOU HEAD WEST, UH, THAT WILL BE LOWERED BETWEEN FOUR TO FIVE FEET.
UH, AND SO A LOT OF THE, THAT VISIBILITY CONCERNS WILL, WILL BE ADDRESSED.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND STAGE ONE DESIGN PHASE, UH, AND WE ANTICIPATE CONSTRUCTION WILL START IN MID, UH, 2026.
SO A LOT OF THE VISIBILITY CONCERNS THAT ARE THERE NOW, UH, WILL BE MITIGATED, UH, THROUGH THAT, THAT WIDENING.
AND ALSO THE, THE CHANGE OF THE GEOMETER GEOMETRY OF, UH, CHAMBERSBURG.
THE WAWA IS COORDINATING THEIR, UM, SITE ENTRANCE, UH, WITH CHOICE ONE, WHO WAS OUR ENGINEER DOING ALL THE DESIGN, UH, ON CHAMBERSBURG.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC STUDY, THERE
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ARE REALLY ONLY 16 TRIPS THAT ARE ANTICIPATED TO GO DOWN CHAMBERSBURG THAT ARE GENERATED BY THIS SITE.UH, THE REAL DRIVER OF TRAFFIC ON CHAMBERSBURG IS GONNA BE THE, UM, VILLAGES OF, UM, WEST, UH, WESTPORT, WHICH WAS APPROVED A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
UH, ABOUT 200 UNITS ON OLD TROY PIKE.
THERE WAS ALSO CONCERNS ABOUT VISIBILITY AS YOU HEAD SOUTHBOUND, UM, AND CONCERNS ABOUT TRUCKS KIND OF PULLING IN AND FOLKS ARE PULLING OUT ONTO OLD TROY PIKE AND NOT BEING ABLE TO, UH, SEE THEM.
SO THIS IS A PICTURE I TOOK TODAY, UM, LOOKING SOUTHBOUND AT, UH, JOHANSSON.
UH, IT'S ABOUT 600 FEET FROM THE ENTRANCE.
UH, YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS PICTURE, UH, STANDING IN THE, IN THE ROADWAY, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE WAY TO, UH, CHAMBERSBURG AND THEN PAST.
SO THERE REALLY IS NO VISIBILITY, UH, ISSUE AS YOU HEAD SOUTHBOUND, UM, TOWARDS THE SITE.
UM, LASTLY, THERE WAS CONCERN, ALTHOUGH I BELIEVE THAT THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN ADDRESSED BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND, UH, THE WEST NEIGHBOR WAS CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, NOISE AND LIGHT.
UH, FROM THIS SITE, AS I MENTIONED, IT DOES SIT ABOUT 21 FEET, UH, BELOW GRADE FROM, UH, IF YOU WERE STANDING AT THE, UH, THE BACK OF THE GARAGE HERE, UM, WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IS PROBABLY THIS, UM, IF THERE WERE NO TREES, UH, IT DOES SIT SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW GRADE.
WHAT WE HAVE ASKED THE DEVELOPER TO DO, AND WE'LL WORK WITH THEM, UM, DURING THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IS, UH, CHANGE IS ALTER THE LANDSCAPING PLAN SOMEWHAT SO THAT THERE ARE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EVERGREEN TREES ALONG THIS WEST, UH, PERIMETER SITE, SO THAT EVEN THIS VIEW WOULD BE OBSCURED, UH, DURING THE WINTER, UM, FROM FROM TREES.
THE ACTUAL LIGHT POSTS THEMSELVES SHOULD SIT BELOW YOUR VISUAL GRADE.
UM, BUT YOU WOULD SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THIS PARAPET WALL THAT'S, UH, THAT'S HERE.
BUT WITH, UM, WITH THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, UM, THAT SHOULD BE MITIGATED.
SO AS FAR AS THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN ANALYSIS, I'LL KIND OF SKIP THROUGH EACH OF THESE FAIRLY QUICKLY.
UM, IT IS STAFF'S OPINION THAT THE, UH, PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, THE COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AS WELL AS OUR OTHER APPLICABLE PLANS AND POLICIES.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF AN ARTERIAL AND COLLECTOR STREET.
UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD, AS FAR AS TIMELINE, WE HAVEN'T HAD A, A SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION ABOUT TIMELINE WITH THE APPLICANT.
BUT, UH, GIVEN THE, THE, THE NATURE OF THE CORPORATION, WE HAVE NO CONCERNS, UH, ABOUT THEIR DIFFICULTY FINANCING OR CONSTRUCTING, UM, THIS PROJECT IN A REASONABLE TIME.
UH, AS FAR AS ITEM C, WHICH IS, UH, ACCESSIBILITY OR THE ADEQUACY OF OUR, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, WE DO HAVE ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, SERVING IT BOTH, UH, FOR TRAFFIC, UM, AND ALSO OUR PUBLIC UTILITIES.
THE TRAFFIC STUDY ESTIMATES THAT, UH, THE NET PEAK HOUR TRIPS, SO THO THOSE TRIPS THAT ARE GENERATED BY THIS USE ARE BETWEEN 120, WELL, 129 IN THE MORNING AND 179, UH, IN THE EVENING.
UH, AS I MENTIONED, OF THOSE 1 29 AND 1 79 RESPECTIVELY, ABOUT 16, UH, ARE ESTIMATED TO HEAD DOWN CHAMBERSBURG, AND THOSE ARE PROBABLY RESIDENTS WHO LIVE DOWN CHAMBERSBURG ON THE WEST SIDE.
UM, THE STUDY INDICATES THAT THERE ARE NO DROP OR TURN LANES REQUIRED OFF OF ROY PIKE.
I MENTIONED THAT WE, THE APPLICANT IS DEDICATING ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY A ALONG CHAMBERSBURG FOR THAT THREE LANE, UM, WIDENING AS WELL AS THE EIGHT FOOT, UH, OR NOW I THINK IT'S NOW UP TO 10 FOOT, UM, BIKE PATH.
THAT IS A MULTI-USE PATH THAT WE'LL HEAD FROM OLD TROY PIKE TO THE CORPORATE LIMIT.
WELL CLOSE TO THE CORPORATE LIMIT.
UM, AS FAR AS ITEM D, AS FAR AS UNDUE BURDEN, WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE UNDUE BURDEN ON PUBLIC SERVICES.
THERE IS, LIKE I SAID, ADEQUATE CAPACITY FOR STREETS AND UTILITIES.
WE DON'T THINK THIS IS WILL BE A POLICING CONCERN.
UH, BUILDINGS WILL COMPLY WITH ALL BUILDING FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
UH, AS FAR AS COVENANTS, ANY ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS IMPOSED BY THIS BODY OR THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION DURING THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN WILL BE, UH, MEMORIALIZED IN THE P U D UH, LEGISLATION.
UH, AND LASTLY, UH, ITEM F AS FAR AS LANDSCAPING, UH, AND KIND OF THE HARMONIOUS DEVELOPMENT, WE BELIEVE STAFF FEELS THAT THE SITE PLAN IS WELL ARRANGED.
UH, THE CIRCULATION IS EFFICIENT, UH, AND THEN ALL LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS WILL BE REVEALED DURING THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
SO, UH, THE, THIS SITE, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT TRAFFIC FLOW, PEDESTRIAN, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT PEDESTRIAN, UM, CONFLICTS BETWEEN TRAFFIC, THIS SITE IS WELL DONE.
UH, WE DID REQUEST IN THE APPLICANT, UM, COMPLIED WITH, WE WANTED TO HAVE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS BETWEEN,
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UH, CHAMBERSBURG AND, UH, THE SITE ITSELF.THERE WAS ONE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION FROM OLD TROY PIKE.
WE DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE, UH, STUDENTS WALKING, UH, AS THEY ALREADY DO, CROSSING, UH, OLD TROY PIKE GOING UP, UH, TROY, OLD TROY PIKE, OR GOING DOWN, ESPECIALLY CHAMBERSBURG.
ONCE WE HAVE A SAFE, UH, WAY FOR THEM TO TRAVEL DOWN CHAMBERSBURG, WE THINK THE STORE, UH, WOULD GET SIGNIFICANT FOOT TRAFFIC.
UM, SO, UH, AS FAR AS PRE PRESERVATION OF THE NATURAL FEATURES, UH, THIS SITE, UNLIKE MANY WILL REMAIN, UH, MAINTAIN THAT SIGNIFICANT WOODED AREA TO THE WEST AND THE NORTH.
UH, AS FAR AND AS THE, UH, THE DECORATIVE RETAINING WALL IS, UH, RIGHT NOW EXPECTED TO, TO REMAIN, UM, THE SITE DOES HAVE, UH, SIGNIFICANT TOPOGRAPHICAL FEATURES.
UM, IT'S GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE EXISTING LAND CONTOURS, UH, WHERE POSSIBLE.
THE GRADING, UH, TO THE WEST FOR THAT RE KIND OF SEMI RETAINING WALL, UH, IS A THREE TO ONE SLOPE, WHICH MEETS OUR STANDARDS.
IT WILL PROVIDE VEGETATIVE, UH, GROUND COVER AND WILL, UH, LIMIT, UM, EROSION.
LASTLY, UH, THE LAST TWO, UM, STANDARDS OF APPROVAL IS REGARDING AS, UH, EXCESSIVE, UH, PUBLIC COST.
UH, WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC SERVICES REQUIRED TO SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AND THEN AGAIN, UH, OBNOXIOUS, UH, USES OR ACTIVITIES, UH, ALL, UH, THE PROPOSED USES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE PLANNED COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
UM, AND THIS, THE TRAFFIC STUDY DOES NOT INDICATE THAT THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT WOULD GENERATE EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC.
UH, STAFF BELIEVES THAT THIS REZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND AGAIN, IS NOT GOING TO, UH, ADVERSELY SELECT, UH, AFFECT SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS.
AS FAR AS ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS, IT WAS GOOD WITH THE, THE SITE PLAN AND THE CANOPY HEIGHTS.
UM, THE CITY ENGINEER HAS BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, WITH THIS GROUP FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
UH, AND THEY'VE HAVE COMPLIED WITH ALL OF OUR REQUESTS FROM AN ENGINEERING, UH, PERSPECTIVE.
SO STAFF SUPPORTS THE PARCEL REZONING, UH, FROM OH ONE TO PLAN COMMERCIAL.
IT'S, UH, OUR OPINION THAT THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 11 71 0 6 CAN BE MET.
UH, AND WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
UH, ONE THAT THE APPLICANT ASSESS THE HEALTH OF THE EXISTING TREES ALONG THE SITE'S PERIMETER.
I'M NOT GONNA READ ALL OF THIS, BUT THE POINT IS, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT THEM TO ASSESS THE, THE HEALTH OF THE, THE, THE TREES ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE, OF THE BUILDABLE SITE AFTER GRADING, SO THAT WE CAN, UM, ASSESS AND TRY TO RETAIN AS MANY MATURE HEALTHY TREES AS POSSIBLE, UM, BECAUSE THEY PROVIDE A BETTER BUFFER THAN A, THAN A NEW TREE THAT WOULD BE PLANTED.
THE, THE DEVELOPER IS AGREEABLE TO THAT, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT SECTION.
THE SECOND CONDITION IS THE APPLICANT WILL WORK WITH STAFF TO DEF THE, UH, DETERMINE THE FINAL STREET TREE PLACEMENT DURING THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UH, TWO, THAT THREE, THAT SIGNS SHALL CONFORM WITH CHAPTER 1189.
UH, AND THEN LASTLY, UH, WE'VE BEEN PUTTING THIS IN MOST, UH, PLANNED COMMERCIAL, UM, UH, REZONINGS THAT THE PERMITTED USES WILL BE THOSE LISTED IN SECTION 11 76 0 1 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF VEHICLE SALES, RENTAL OR SERVICE SWEEPSTAKES, CAFES, SHORT-TERM LENDERS, DRY CLEANERS, OR OUTDOOR SALES AND STORAGE, UH, UNLESS APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED FIVE TO ZERO TO APPROVE THIS REZONING AND THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
SO NEXT, UH, AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL ON ANY REPRESENTATIVE OF, UH, B P O T P L L C TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THEY MAY HAVE.
SO THE APPLICANT ALSO PROVIDED A, UM, PRESENTATION IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THAT AS WELL.
THIS SOMETIMES WORKS, BUT YOU USE THE ROLE OF OUR GOT IT.
HI, MY NAME'S UH, PATRICK O'LEARY.
I'M, UH, PRESIDENT OF BLUE PENINSULA REAL ESTATE, AND, UH, WE'RE THE DEVELOPER OF THIS SITE.
UM, AND I KNOW I'VE GIVEN THIS PRESENTATION, SO SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN IT, SO I'LL TRY TO BE EFFICIENT AND, UH, FOR A FEW OF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, BUT I, I LOVE TALKING ABOUT WAWA, BUT MAYBE NOT EVERYONE SHARES MY ENTHUSIASM.
UH, SO, UH, AS, AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR FRONT ELEVATION OF THE STORE.
UH, ARCHITECTURALLY VERY STRONG.
WE'VE BROKEN UP THE WALLS ON ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE BUILDING.
UH, TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GLAZING ON THE FRONT, UM, AND A, A NICE MIX OF MATERIALS THAT REALLY IN MOST ANY OVERLAY DISTRICT IN THE COUNTRY, THIS WOULD PASS WITHOUT HAVING
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TO BE MODIFIED WHATSOEVER.UM, IT'S OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
UM, YOU KNOW, WAWA IS KNOWN FOR THEIR FAMILY ATMOSPHERE, FRESH FOOD, TO ORDER THEIR COMPETITIVE FUEL PRICING, COMMUNITY DEVOTION, WHICH I THINK IS VERY, VERY UNIQUE TO WHAT WAWA BRINGS TO THE TABLE.
WE'LL GET INTO THAT IN MORE DEPTH.
UM, AND THEN A VERY BIZARRE EMOTIONAL CONNECTION WITH THE CUSTOMERS.
WAWA IS THE NATIVE AMERICAN, UH, WORD FOR THE CANADA GOOSE.
SO, UH, WAWAS HISTORY IS REALLY QUITE FASCINATING.
THEY, UH, THEY, THEY STARTED IN, UH, THE IRON BUSINESS MADE, UM, MANHOLE COVERS AND, AND FIRE HYDRANTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
ONE OF THE SONS WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, LEFT, WANTED TO BE A GENTLEMAN FARMER.
SO HE BOUGHT A DAIRY FARM OUTSIDE OF PENNSYLVANIA, WAWA, OR, UH, PHIL PHILADELPHIA, WAWA, PENNSYLVANIA.
AND HE WAS A VERY GOOD BUSINESSMAN.
AND SO THE DAIRY FARM TURNED INTO THE MILKMAN OF PHILADELPHIA, WHICH TURNED INTO THE DAIRY STORES OF PHILADELPHIA.
AND WAWA HAD A GAS ABOUT 25 YEARS AGO.
SO THEIR, THEIR HISTORY, THEIR ROOTS ARE IN THE DAIRY STORE, IN THE MARKET, IN THE FOOD PREPARATION, AND IT'S REALLY WHY THEY STAND OUT IN THAT AREA.
SO, UM, TO SAY THEY HAVE AN EMOTIONAL CONNECTION WITH THEIR CUSTOMERS.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW WAWA VERY WELL OR HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR FANS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY INTENSE.
THERE'S MARRIAGES EVERY SINGLE YEAR, MULTIPLE TIMES AT WAWAS.
UH, KIDS IN THE NORTHEAST AND FLORIDA WILL GET THE BRAND TATTOOED ON THEIR BODY.
UH, THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE PICTURES.
THIS IS NOT THE FLYERS WINNING THE STANLEY CUP OR THE EAGLES WINNING A SUPER BOWL.
THAT'S THE GRAND OPENING OF A STORE IN DOWNTOWN PHILADELPHIA.
THAT WAS THE ONLY PURPOSE FOR THAT CROWD.
UM, SO IT, IT REALLY SPEAKS TO HOW, HOW THE PEOPLE ARE ATTACHED.
AND IT REALLY IS ALL ABOUT THE FOOD, THEIR FOOD'S OUTSTANDING, THE HOGIE, THE BREAKFAST SANDWICHES.
THEY, UH, THEY'RE VERY, VERY GOOD.
AND, UH, THEY'RE DRINKS AS WELL.
AND VERY IMPORTANTLY, THEY REALLY NEVER STOP INNOVATING.
THEY BRING NEW PRODUCTS TO MARKET.
THEY TEST 'EM, THEY IMPROVE, THEY MAKE 'EM BETTER.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, UH, IT, IT'S A PRETTY AWESOME OFFERING.
TRULY, UM, BIG PART OF WAWA'S SUCCESS IS WHO THEY HAVE, WHO THEY ARE, AND HOW THEY TREAT THEIR PEOPLE.
AND ONE OF THE, THE, THE BIG THINGS YOU'LL HEAR IS SEVEN VERSUS SEVEN.
SO THE AVERAGE WAWA EMPLOYEE IS SEVEN YEARS, AND THE INDUSTRY IS SEVEN MONTHS.
AND THAT REALLY SPEAKS VOLUME TO WHAT THEY DO AND THE WAY THEY TREAT THEIR PEOPLE AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO 'EM.
SO THEIR OFFERING IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL GAS CONVENIENCE OR FAST FOOD RESTAURANT.
THEY HAVE TUITION REIMBURSEMENT, THEY HAVE COLLEGE OPPORTUNITIES.
THEY DO, UH, THEY, THEY, THEY DO, UH, INCREDIBLE HEALTH BENEFITS.
UM, THEY'RE AN ESOP, WHICH I'LL GET MORE INTO, BUT, UH, IT'S JUST REALLY AN OUTSTANDING COMPANY AND THEY TREAT THEIR PEOPLE VERY WELL, AND THAT TRANSLATES TO HOW THEIR PEOPLE TREAT THEIR CUSTOMERS.
SO WAWA IS, AND ESOP ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE COUNTRY, WHICH IS A EMPLOYEE STOCK OWNERSHIP PLAN.
SO THE WOOD FAMILY, AS THE COMPANY GROWS, IS GIVING UP THEIR, THEIR SIZE OF THE PIE, AND EMPLOYEE'S SIZE OF THE PIE GETS BIGGER.
BUT AS THE WHOLE PIE GETS BIGGER, EVERYONE'S A WINNER ON THIS THING.
AND IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY AWESOME PROGRAM.
EVERYONE I WORK WITH AT WAWA HAS BEEN THERE LIKE 10 YEARS AS A BRAND NEW GUY.
THEY'RE ALL 15, 20 YEAR EMPLOYEES.
HOW, YOU KNOW, STORE MANAGERS RETIRE MILLIONAIRES BECAUSE OF THE ESOP.
UH, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, REALLY AWESOME.
ANOTHER THING THAT SEPARATES WAWAS FROM ITS COMPETITORS IS ITS FOCUS ON THE GIVING AND BEING A PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
THEY ARE, THEY'RE NOT A HIGHWAY PLAY.
THEY WANNA BE THE MARKET, THE STORE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND IT SPEAKS TO THE LOCATION WE'VE CHOSEN HERE.
SO THE, THE WAWA FOUNDATION HAS GIVEN OVER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS SINCE IT'S FOUND, UM, FOUNDING.
AND THAT IS IN THE COMMUNITIES.
IT'S JUST NOT LIKE A FEW A, A A, A FEW, UH, UH, ORGANIZATIONS THAT BENEFIT.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY APPLY TO YOUR LOCAL STORE AND ASK FOR SOMETHING TO BE SUPPORTED THAT GETS SENT TO A COMMITTEE THAT CAN APPROVE IT RIGHT DOWN ON THE LOCAL LEVEL.
AND THAT'S EVERY SINGLE STORE.
UM, IT, IT, IT REALLY WORKS AND, AND IT'S MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE.
SO, UM, EXCELLENCE JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN BY ACCIDENT.
I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW THAT AS MANAGERS RUNNING BUSINESSES AND WHAT WE DO, UM, WAWA HAS AN INCREDIBLY INTENSE FOCUS ON WHAT THEY DO, AND THEY EXECUTE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL.
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RANKED WAWA AS NUMBER 12 IN THEIR HALO OF 100 BRANDS.UM, SO WHEN YOU THINK OF THAT, I THINK THEY FELL RIGHT BEHIND NORDSTROM.
UM, IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY REMARKABLE FOR A COMPANY THAT'S ONLY IN SEVEN STATES VERSUS NATIONWIDE, THAT THEY HAVE THAT KIND OF BRAND RECOGNITION AND, AND IS RECOGNIZED.
HARVARD BUSINESS REVIEW, UM, HAS WRITTEN, WRITES ARTICLES ABOUT WAWA AND THEIR EXCELLENCE IN THEIR EMPLOYEE TRAINING AND HOW, HOW DO THEY, YOU KNOW, LIKE A NORDSTROM, LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A CHICK-FIL-A, UH, HOW, HOW DO THEY CONSTANTLY HAVE JUST PLEASANT PEOPLE SERVICING AND DELIVERING? UM, IT, AGAIN, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN BY ACCIDENT.
SO, UH, SO IT, IN REGARDS TO THIS SPECIFIC SITE, UH, I THINK AARON HAS TALKED ABOUT WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN AND ELEVATIONS.
UM, THIS IS THE LOCATION THAT I DO WANT TO TOUCH BASE JUST A LITTLE BIT.
AGAIN, WAWA, IT'S NOT YOUR TYPICAL HIGHWAY PLAY.
WE'LL CERTAINLY BUILD BY A HIGHWAY WHERE IT ADDS, BUT WE'LL NEVER GO TO A HIGHWAY WHERE THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THERE.
THIS LOCATION'S IDEAL FOR THAT.
WE THINK WE WILL SERVICE FAMILIES FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL AND FROM THE SCHOOLS THAT NEARBY.
WE'RE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'RE IN THE PATTERN.
UH, THEN THIS IS JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I ALWAYS LOVE THIS SLIDE BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC SCHOOL THAT GRANTED WAWA CROSS ACCESS.
IF YOU CAN IMAGINE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S MANY BRANDS OUT THERE WHERE A PUBLIC SCHOOL WOULD DO THAT.
UH, WAWA'S A, A LEADER IN THEIR ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIENCE.
THEY'RE ONE OF THE EARLY TESLA CHARGING PARTNERS.
EVERY STORE IS BUILT WITH ELECTRIC CAR INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.
AND AS SOON AS THE CAR COUNTS IN THE, IN THE TRADE AREA ARE AT THE RIGHT NUMBER, THEY PUT 'EM IN.
UM, BUT THEY'RE ALL READY TO GO.
UM, NOT TO GET BURIED IN THE DETAILS OF THIS, BUT YOU CAN SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, BIKE RACKS AT EVERY STORE.
THEY, THEY, THEY PROMOTE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC HEAVILY.
UH, ONE THING THAT'S INCREDIBLY UNIQUE TO THIS SITE IS WE'RE ONLY 38% IMPERVIOUS SURFACE COVERAGE, WHICH IN MY CAREER, THAT'S THE LOWEST I'VE EVER DONE BY A LOT.
UM, WE ALL TEND TO TRY TO JAM 'EM ONTO A SITE.
AND IN THIS CASE, THE WAY THE PROPERTY WORKED OUT WITH THE SLOPES AND THE GRADES, UM, WE REALLY HAVE GOT KIND OF AN ESTATE SETTING FOR THE STORE.
I THINK IT'S GONNA SIT ON THE HILL BEAUTIFULLY AND, AND, AND SOMETHING WE'LL BE REALLY PROUD OF FOR SURE.
UM, I THINK THE ECONOMIC IMPACTS OUTSTANDING FOR THE COMMUNITY DOES MATTER.
WE GOT A PROJECTED 13 TIMES INCREASE IN THE TAX BASE HERE.
UM, BECAUSE WAWA'S NOT A PUBLIC COMPANY.
THEY'RE PRIVATELY, EVERY STORE IS NOT CHASING A WALL STREET NUMBER.
THE STORES ARE AN INVESTMENT FOR THE COMPANY THAT THEY'RE COMMITTED TO IN THE LONG TERM.
THE WAWA FOUNDATION, I'VE TOUCHED ON $12 MILLION ANNUALLY TO THOUSANDS OF ORGANIZATIONS, UM, SINCE ITS INCEPTION IN 2014, HAS GIVEN OVER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.
UM, AND J WAWA CREATES NEW JOBS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR EMPLOYEES TO GO TO COLLEGE AND TO FURTHER THEIR CAREER WITH WAWA.
SO IN, IN A SUMMARY, UM, WAWA IS UNIQUELY A BRAND THAT STANDS ALONE.
IT REALLY IS ITS OWN CATEGORY.
UM, WE BELIEVE THAT WE'RE AN ECONOMIC DRIVER.
WE OFFER IMPROVED, UM, OFFERINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, CONVENIENCE IS NOT A BAD THING.
IT'S GOT A BAD NAME BECAUSE OF THE WAY SOME CONVENIENCE STORE OPERATORS.
BUT, UH, HAVING A CONVENIENT OPERATION THAT'S CLEAN, WELL DONE, YOU CAN TRUST IT, YOU CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE GOING IN THERE IN THE EVENING.
THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR A COMMUNITY, UH, ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIENCE, UH, JOB AND CAREER CREATOR AND CHARITABLE WORK IN THE COMMUNITY.
UH, REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE PROJECT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
NEXT, I WOULD ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPROVAL OF THE WAWA ISSUE HERE THIS EVENING? MS. FAVOR IN FAVOR OF? YES.
HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING? UH, VERY GOOD.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND MY NAME'S RENADO
I HAVE FOUR KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT GRADUATED IN WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL.
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AND I HAVE A BUSINESS FOR ABOUT 35 YEARS NOW.UH, MY LOCATION, I HAVE A BUILDING LOCATION IS IN CHAMBERSBURG ROAD, SO I HAVE SOME INTEREST ON THAT.
AND PLUS, ON TOP OF THAT, I HAVE INTEREST ON THAT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'LL BASE UP TRAFFIC IN AND I'D LIKE TO COMMEND YOU GUYS THAT YOU BROUGHT IN SOME BUSINESS AND APPRECIATE THAT.
AND IT, I THINK PROGRESS CAN'T BE STOPPED REGARDLESS.
IF YOU ARE DOING IT ON TRY FIGHT OR YOU HAVE PROBLEMS ON IT, EVENTUALLY THAT'S GONNA BE SOLVED.
JUST A MATTER, YOU NEED TO REACT TO WHAT'S COMING UP.
SO IF YOU HAVE TOY PIKE COMING DOWN TO CHAMBERSBURG, IT'S GONNA BE OPEN UP OUT THERE.
IT'S GONNA ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS. AND I LIKE TO SEE BRENT PIKE START OPENING UP BY SOUTH WITH CHAMBERSBURG ROAD ON THAT.
SO, AND MY INTEREST ALSO IN THE COMMUNITY IS THAT I HAVE PROPERTIES IN WARD FOUR, AND SO I HAVE SOME INVESTMENT ON THAT PROPERTY TOO, AS FAR AS WHERE WHAT'S GONNA BE.
SO I'M JUST PUTTING MY 2 CENTS IN AND I LIKE TO SEE WHILE, UH, GO IN AND PROGRESS CONTINUE ON.
AND CONGRATULATIONS FOR BRINGING THE OTHER PEOPLE IN.
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR COMMENTS.
WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF WAWA THIS EVENING? HELLO, I'M KATHY.
UM, I RAISED THOSE FOUR KIDS HE'S TALKING ABOUT, AND I HAVE SIX GRANDKIDS.
I'M ALSO THE, I LIVE BEHIND WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL AND I AM, OH, THERE'S MOJO'S MOM OR, AND IT'S MY KIDS.
WERE ALL IN THE R T C PROGRAM.
UM, THE KIDS DON'T HAVE A GOOD PLACE TO GO.
WE LIKE CASEY'S, WE REALLY DO.
BUT I MISS, I WAS HERE WHEN HOOKS WAS HERE.
I WAS HERE WHEN KROGER'S WAS OVER THERE WHERE IT'S THE SKATE PARK NOW.
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY.
I KIND OF MADE AGREEMENT WITH THAT MAN WITH MERRILY WAY.
I DON'T LIKE GOING TO KROGER'S ANYMORE.
UM, WHEN IT WAS RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER, IT WAS GREAT.
BUT NOW WHERE DO I GO TO GET MY GALLON OF MILK WHEN I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF MAKING SUPPER AND OH MY GOODNESS, I'VE GOT A, MY CHEESE OR I NEED A CONVENIENCE STORE IN CASEY'S IS NICE.
I CAN GET A SLICE OF PIZZA THERE AND FILL IT WITH GAS.
I DON'T DRINK ALL THOSE SOFT DRINKS.
I WANT A STORE FOR MY CHILDREN AND MY GRANDCHILDREN.
AND I THINK WAWA'S THE PLACE WHEN I WENT TO ORLANDO WITH MY KIDS TO DISNEYLAND.
NEVER BEEN TO WAWA, I'LL BE REAL HONEST.
AND WE WENT TO ORLANDO AND THEN WE WENT TO CRYSTAL RIVERS AND I STOPPED.
SO I DECIDED TO ASK THE EMPLOYEE HOW THEY LIKED WORKING THERE.
'CAUSE I KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
AND SO IT WAS JUST A GENERAL CASHIER THERE.
SHE'S GOING TO COLLEGE, SHE'S GETTING FUNDING.
AND SINCE I WORKED FOR, I'M AN OPTICIAN.
I'VE WORKED FOR LENSCRAFTERS, WHICH IS OWNED BY TIC.
I'VE RUN SOME BIG, BIG BUSINESSES AS A DISTRICT MANAGER.
AND THE ONE THING WE LACK IN THIS COMMUNITY IS A PLACE FOR OUR KIDS TO BE, TO GROW, TO GET WORK ETHIC.
AND I THINK WAWA WILL BRING IT TO US.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF WAWA HERE THIS EVENING? HELLO.
I LIVE NEXT TO WAWA THAT'S COMING.
SO I FIRST WANTED TO THANK KATE BAKER AND DON WEBB FOR SPEAKING UP LAST TIME IN REGARDS TO, UH, MY EMAIL TO THE BOARD IN REGARDS TO THE ISSUES THAT I HAD.
UM, SO FOR THE CIRCUMSTANCE, YOU KNOW, MY SUPPORT IS FOR, OF COURSE HUBER HEIGHTS TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BENEFIT THE CITY.
SO TAKE MYSELF OUTTA THE EQUATION THAT'S BENEFICIAL TO ADAM.
UH, WE REACHED A COMPROMISE TO KIND OF DEAL WITH MY ISSUES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
AND SO FOR THAT, I'M APPRECIATIVE AND I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT.
SO REAL QUICK, I'D LIKE TO ASK, SO WAS THE DEVELOPER, I MEAN, WE'VE SEEN THE PRESENTATION AND KIND OF WHAT THE RESULTS WERE MM-HMM.
I'D BE INTERESTED, HOW WAS THE DEVELOPER TO WORK WITH DURING THAT PROCESS TO ACCOMMODATE YOUR CONCERNS? UH, PATRICK, UH, PATRICK AND I HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION.
AND, UM, UH, WE, WE CAME TO A, A HAPPY MEDIUM OR A MEDIUM IN REGARDS TO WHAT WE CAN DO.
UH, YOU KNOW, I GOTTA ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, I GOTTA TAKE MYSELF OUTTA THE EQUATION AS MUCH.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, THE CONSIDERATION FOR WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, THE TREES, AND, UM, TO BE ABLE TO ADD
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SOMETHING ON MY SIDE TO TRY TO MITIGATE WHATEVER SOUND, WHICH IS MOST IMPORTANT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC.I'M USED TO ONE MAN WITH MAYBE A PARTNER COMPARISON TO AN ENTRANCE IN THE CHAMBERSBURG.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF TRAFFIC.
SO MY CONCERN IS TO JUST TRY TO THE LIGHT AND THE SOUND TO TRY TO HAVE THE PRIVACY, WHICH WAS WHAT I PURCHASED.
UM, I PURCHASED A NEIGHBOR AND, UH, NOT A, A, A STORE.
AND I HAD NO AWARENESS IN REGARDS TO THAT WAS A, AN OPTION.
MAYBE MY, YOU KNOW, SO, BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE ADAPTATION IS KIND OF, I WOULDN'T SAY, YOU KNOW, A COMPROMISE WAS ABLE TO MADE FOR THE CIRCUMSTANCE, YOU KNOW, SO, AND MR. O'LEARY WAS, UH, WAS HELPFUL ENOUGH TO REALLY WORK WITH ME.
UH, ADAM PLAYED A BIG PART AS WELL.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL WHO SPOKE UP, I'M APPRECIATIVE.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I COULD ASK FOR OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, COMPROMISE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT.
SO YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH THE END RESULT.
I APPRECIATE IT AND I APPRECIATE IT.
SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ELSE I COULD ASK FOR YOU THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE CIRCUMSTANCE.
SO, UM, THE, THE QUESTION COULD BE LOADED, RIGHT?
SO AM I ADAPTING TO THE CIRCUMSTANCES? YEAH, I THINK WE ALL ARE.
AND THERE'S GONNA BE OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, THE CITY TO GET SOME GROWTH OUT OF IT, I'M SURE SOME TAXES AND, AND EVERYTHING THAT COMES WITH THAT.
SO I HAVE TO ACCEPT ALL THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES FOR MY CIRCUMSTANCE.
AND TREES ARE, UH, AS WE CAN KEEP AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE.
UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TONIGHT.
APPRECIATE YOU SPEAKING UP AND THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE MR. LEARY AND ADAM AND EVERYONE ELSE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE PRESENT WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF WAWA THIS EVENING? AYE, MY NAME'S MELISSA AND I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT 'EM COMING.
I THINK THEY HAVE A LOT TO OFFER FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
I THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE IN A GREAT LOCATION FOR THE PEOPLE ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN.
I DON'T WANNA DEAL WITH THE CURRY AREA EITHER.
SO IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND GET OUT.
I THINK FOR HIM TO COME UP AND SAY, YOU KNOW, HE'S OKAY WITH IT.
YOU KNOW, I, I'M HOPING AND PRAYING FOR HIM THAT WITH THE TREES AND EVERYTHING THERE, THAT THE NOISE WON'T BE WHAT HE'S HOPING THAT IT ISN'T, THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE THERE.
BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THAT WITH THAT ELEVATION DROP AND THE TREES ARE REALLY GOING TO KEEP THAT SOUND IN WHERE IT'S AT.
AND LET'S FACE IT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE DOWN THERE PARTYING AND LIVING IT UP OVER THERE.
SO HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE TO A MINIMUM, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT WHEN THEY'RE THERE.
BUT I DO THINK IT'S A GREAT ASSET FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO 'EM BEING HERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF WAWA THIS EVENING? HEY GUYS.
HOW YOU DOING? UM, SO I'M DEFINITELY FOR THIS PROJECT, I, TO KIND OF DOUBLE DOWN WHAT RAY AND KATHY WERE SAYING, I, UH, WITH BUSINESS PROGRESS IS GOOD.
I, I THINK MORE BUSINESS IS GOOD.
UM, WITH KATHY SAYING, REDIRECTING SOME OF THE TRAFFIC, I THINK IT'S GONNA HELP TREMENDOUSLY WITH THE CHAOS.
I MEAN, I, I LIKE THE BUSINESS, DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT THE CHAOS THAT'S OVER THERE.
I THINK HAVING, UM, A QUALITY CONVENIENCE STORE LIKE WAWA IS GONNA HELP MITIGATE A LOT OF THAT TRAFFIC.
'CAUSE EVEN MYSELF, I, INSTEAD OF GOING TO KROGER FOR LIKE A, SHE MENTIONED A GALLON OF MILK, I CAN JUST GO TO WAWA AND GRAB MY PROTEIN BAR OR MY, LIKE, I THINK THEY HAD PATRICK, THEY HAVE LIKE ONE OF THE BEST HOGIE, RIGHT? LIKE, I THINK THEY BEAT CHICK-FIL-A, HONESTLY, WHICH IS CRAZY 'CAUSE CHICK-FIL-A, THAT'S ALL THEY DO AND WAWA DOES ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.
UH, SOMETHING ELSE I THINK IS GREAT FOR THE CITY IS THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ALREADY WILLING TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON THAT BIKE PATH.
SO I LOVE BIKING AND I LOVE THAT YOU GUYS ARE BRINGING THE BIKE PATH.
AND I USE RIP WRAP ALL THE TIME, LIKE NONSTOP.
I GO WITH JOE HERE ALL THE TIME.
AND TO ALREADY HAVE A DEVELOPER THAT'S WILLING TO WORK WITH THE CITY, LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA LOSE A LITTLE BIT OF LAND HERE TO PUT A BIKE PATH.
LIKE, HEY, I'M, I'M GAME FOR THAT 'CAUSE I WILL BE USING THAT BIKE PATH.
UM, SOMETHING ELSE THAT PATRICK MENTIONED IN, IN HIS THING HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALREADY PREPPED FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND WE ALL SEE THAT THE UNITED STATES, UH, INTELLIGENCE AND ALL THEIR INTELLIGENCE WANTS US ALL TO BE ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
SO JUST FOR THE FUTURE OF THE CITY, I THINK IT'S SMART TO HAVE PLACES THAT ARE ALREADY THINKING ABOUT THAT,
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TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE IF WE ALL START GETTING ELECTRIC VEHICLES OR BEING FORCED TO.DON'T GET ME WRONG, I LIKE MY GASOLINE.
UM, ALSO SOMETHING ELSE IS, YOU GUYS SAW THE IMPACT OF HOW POPULAR WAWA IS.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE IN WAWA T-SHIRTS.
THIS MIGHT BE THE FIR AND I THINK PATRICK MENTIONED SEVEN STATES.
AND HUBER HEIGHTS MIGHT BE THE VERY FIRST IN THE STATE OF OHIO.
SO IT'S, IT'S BATTLING, I THINK WITH CINCINNATI, BUT THERE'S A CHANCE THAT LITTLE HUBER HEIGHTS COULD HAVE JUST ANOTHER HISTORIC LANDMARK OF, HEY, WE WERE THE FIRST CITY IN OHIO TO GET A WAWA, WHICH I THINK WAS, IS COOL.
ANYTHING THAT CAN GET PUBLICITY TO HUBER HEIGHTS.
I'VE LIVED HERE JUST ABOUT MY WHOLE LIFE.
I MOVED AWAY TO GO TO COLLEGE AT COLUMBUS, HATED IT, AND CAME BACK HERE TO, TO HUBBERT.
I LIKE HUBERT, I THINK YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB.
UM, AND WITH ONLY 16 ADDED TRIPS THAT THEY SAID DURING THAT, THAT PRESENTATION, I THINK IT'S, IT'S REALLY A WIN FOR THE CITY.
UM, AND WITH THEM ALREADY GONNA LOWER CHAMBERSBURG, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY NEEDED.
SO I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU GUYS GOT SOME MONEY TO DO THAT.
I THINK IT, IT CAN GO HAND IN HAND WITH THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GUYS ARE IN THAT TIMELINE, HOPEFULLY SOONER THAN LATER, BUT, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE WAWA'S REALLY WILLING TO WORK WITH, UM, EVERYONE AS FAR AS THE CITY, THE ENGINEERS AND EVERYTHING TO MAKE CHAMBERSBURG LOWER, MAKE THAT SAFER, MAKE THAT EVERYTHING.
UM, SO I THINK ANOTHER GOOD THING.
AND THEN LASTLY, ALL THE KIDS, UM, AND I DON'T MEAN THIS LIKE IN A NEGATIVE WAY, BUT ALL THE KIDS NEED SOMEWHERE TO GO AFTER SCHOOL.
'CAUSE I REMEMBER THERE FOR A WHILE, THEY WERE GONNA TROPICAL SMOOTHIE, AND THE TROPICAL SMOOTHIE WAS LIKE, WHOA, NO.
AND THEN THEY WERE GONNA WALGREENS AND WALGREENS WAS LIKE, WHOA, NO.
AND THEN THEY WERE GOING TO SPEEDWAY AND THE SPEED WAS LIKE, WHOA, NO.
AND SO LIKE WITH, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE, SOMETIMES WE HAVE THESE CRAZY BUSING SITUATIONS WHERE LIKE, KIDS CAN'T GET PICKED UP FROM BUSES.
AT LEAST WAWA IS A COMMUNITY BASED PLACE THAT IT'S ALL ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.
SO WORST CASE SCENARIO, UM, KIDS WILL HAVE SOMEWHERE THAT'S NOT GONNA JUST PUSH THEM AWAY, LIKE, HEY, YOU CAN'T COME HERE.
LIKE, AT LEAST THEY'RE GONNA BE MORE, UM, COMMUNITY BASED.
SO I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER POSITIVE FOR THE, THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS TO BRING IN THIS WAWA.
SO YOU'RE THE LANDOWNER SELLING TO WAWA? YES, I AM CURRENTLY, UH, LIVING AT FOUR NINE.
AND SO IF, AND I, SO I BOUGHT IT KNOWING IT WAS COMMERCIAL AND I'M GONNA SELL IT COMMERCIAL.
I WANTED TO GO TO SOMEONE THAT'S COMMUNITY BASED, LIKE WAWA.
'CAUSE I LIVE IN HUBER AND I'M, I I LOVE HUBER.
I DON'T WANNA SELL IT TO HONESTLY ANYONE ELSE.
I, I DIDN'T HONESTLY KNOW WHAT WAWA WAS UNTIL, UM, I LEARNED ABOUT WHAT WAWA WAS AND NOW I'M LIKE, SOLD ON WAWA.
LIKE THEY JUST COMMUNITY BASED.
LIKE I HEARD, LIKE THE FIRST THING THEY DO WHEN THEY COME IN.
AND I THINK THIS IS REALLY COOL 'CAUSE I SPENT 19 YEARS IN THE MILITARY.
UM, THE FIRST THING THEY DO IS THEY COME IN AND THEY TRY TO DO A COMPETITION BETWEEN FIREMEN AND POLICE TO SEE WHO CAN EAT MORE HOAGIES,
AND THEY RAISE MONEY AND THEY GIVE IT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO ANYTHING THAT'S, THAT'S JUST SO COMMUNITY ATED, ESPECIALLY WITH WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL BEING RIGHT THERE.
IF LIKE, WE NEED MONEY FOR MARCHING BAND, THEY CAN PETITION TO WAWA, I THINK, I THINK THERE'S LITERALLY ONLY POSITIVES COMING IN FROM THIS WAH HALL.
SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME.
I WOULD ASK, UH, AGAIN, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE WAWA ISSUE THIS EVENING? OKAY, NEXT I ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THE WAWA ZONING.
I KNOW THERE'VE BEEN A GRAPH OR WHATEVER.
ANYWAY, THIS IS THIS CURRENT SITUATION RIGHT NOW.
UM, AS YOU LISTEN, SIR, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET BY THE MIC SO WE CAN HEAR YOU.
UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE WAWA PUT IN THE APPLICATION FOR THIS SITE.
BP IS PUT IN A GAS STATION THERE AND THEY'RE BRINGING WAWA ALONG TO ENTICE, UH, ENTICE YOU TO, TO TAKE THAT, TAKE THIS, UH, DISPOSITION TO APPROVE IT.
NOW, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF GAS STATIONS BETWEEN NEEDMORE ROAD AND, AND I 70, THERE ARE 10 GAS STATIONS, CONVENIENCE STORES.
IF YOU TAKE THE PUMPS AVAILABLE TO PUMP GAS, THERE ARE 98, UH, NOZZLES TO PUMP GAS.
WHY DO WE NEED MORE GASOLINE STATIONS ALONG THAT ROAD? WE SHOULD START THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, UH, RECHARGING CARS.
'CAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT'S GOING.
WE DON'T NEED MORE GAS STATIONS ALONG THERE.
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NUMBER TWO IS THAT, UH, I LIVE ON JOHANSSEN AVENUE.IT'S GETTING DIFFICULT TO GET OUT THAT ROAD.
AND NOW WITH MORE TRAFFIC COMING UP THE ROAD, I'M GONNA HAVE MORE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. THE PEOPLE ON THAT JOHANSSEN AND THE PEOPLE BACK IN DIAL DRIVE AND SO FORTH, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE MORE COMPLICATIONS GETTING OUT ON THE STREET THERE.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO START DRIVING UP TO LONGFORD NOW TO GET OUT.
ANOTHER THING IS, THEY HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT THIS AT ALL IS THAT WHEN THIS IS, WHEN THIS IS CONSTRUCTED, THEY'RE GONNA SHUT DOWN.
THEY'RE GONNA SHUT DOWN THAT WALKWAY, SIR, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO PICK YOU UP.
WE'RE NOT, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY UM, WHEN THEY DO CONSTRUCTION, THEY'RE GONNA SHUT DOWN THAT WALKWAY.
THAT MEANS THAT STUDENTS ARE GONNA HAVE TO COME OVER HERE.
NOW, DO YOU THINK THE STUDENTS ARE GONNA WALK ALL THE WAY UP TO LONGFORD ACROSS BACK? THEY LIVE OVER HERE? I DON'T THINK SO.
THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA START TRYING TO GO ACROSS THE ROAD HERE.
SO IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT IN THIS WAWA, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT EITHER A THREE-WAY STOP AT JOHANSEN OR YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT TRAFFIC LIGHT IN THERE.
WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR THAT? THE CITY GONNA PAY FOR THAT? OR BP, WHO'S THE, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT'S, UH, PUTTING THE ROAD, PUTTING THIS IN.
AGAIN, YOU'RE SELLING GASOLINE WITH WAWA, UH, PROMOTING, UH, AS A SIDE SIDE VENTURE HERE.
SO I THINK THAT'S A SERIOUS CONSIDERATION.
ANOTHER THING IS THAT WITH PEOPLE COMING, COMING OUT THE UH, DRIVEWAY HERE, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF CONFLICT OF TRAFFIC COMING DOWN THIS WAY.
PEOPLE, PEOPLE WILL COME OUTTA HERE, TURN LEFT, THEY'RE GOING ACROSS TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC AND THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA SIT IN THAT TRANSITION LANE THERE.
AND SO PEOPLE WILL START THEN PUSHING OUT INTO THE TRAFFIC TO GET GOING NORTH.
IT'S GONNA BE A LOT, UH, CONFUSING TRAFFIC THERE.
I HAD THAT PROBLEM RIGHT NOW, QUITE OFTEN WHEN I CAN'T GET OUT, I HAVE TO GET IN THAT TRANSITION LANE.
AND IT'S KINDA SCARY, I'LL TELL YOU.
AND THEN YOU GOTTA WAIT THERE TILL THERE'S A, A, A SPOT TO GET, GET, UH, GOING.
SO THAT'S THE THINGS YOU SHOULD CONSIDER.
JUST, I, I READ IS WAWA SOUNDS ROAD LIKE A GOOD, GOOD BUSINESS, BUT IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THAT LOCATION.
UM, I THINK I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A CLARIFICATION ON, UH, ON THE NAME.
SO I THINK THE, UM, THE BP O T P L L C PORTION OF WHAT'S BEING DONE HERE.
I THINK BP IS JUST THE INITIALS OF THE NAME OF THE DEVELOPER.
THAT'S NOT BRITISH PETROLEUM GASOLINE? NO, IT'S JUST THAT IS THE NAME.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE INITIALS OF THE NAME OF THE DEVELOPER.
AND IF, IF YOU WOULD, OR IF WE CAN JUST GO BACK REAL QUICK JUST, JUST TO, I JUST WANNA VERIFY, I THINK THAT WAS ON THE SLIDE AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT REMEMBERING THE NAME OF THE ACTUAL DEVELOPER, BUT I REMEMBER THAT YOU SAYING IT WAS SOMETHING TO DO.
SO BLUE PENINSULA, IF WE LOOK ON THE SCREEN, BLUE PENINSULA, L L C IS THE NAME OF THE DEVELOPER.
IT ISN'T BRITISH PETROLEUM GAS.
BUT, UH, STILL YOU'RE, IT'S SELLING, UH, YOU'RE SELLING GASOLINE.
THEY ALSO, THE ALSO THE FUEL TANKS ARE NOT TOTALLY CONTAINED IN, IN EARTH.
THEY'RE CONTAINED, PARTLY CONTAINED BY A, A CONCRETE, UH, VAULT STICKING OUT IN THE OPEN AREA THERE.
SO IF THERE WERE, I DON'T THINK IT'D BE, IT'D BE VERY RARE, BUT IF THERE WERE A CATASTROPHIC EXPLOSION THERE, YOU COULD BLOW OUT THE END OF THAT INTO THE, UH, INTO THE 2 0 2.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF REMOTE, BUT I JUST BRING THAT POINT OUT.
THAT WASN'T TOTALLY CONTAINED BY EARTH.
WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS THIS EVENING.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THE WAWA ISSUE? THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MY NAME'S SCOTT DAVIDSON, 32 0 3 RIVER DOWNS COURT.
UM, I'M NOT AGAINST WAWA AT ALL.
I'M AGAINST THE REZONING AND WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT IT.
UM, THAT IS A WOODED AREA THAT'S BEEN BEAUTIFUL ALL THIS TIME.
AND THE DROP IT DOWN 30 FEET PLUS THE PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH THE KIDS WALKING THAT WAY, I UNDERSTAND ABOUT CHAMBERSBURG GOING TO BE WIDENED AND ALL THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA DROP 30 FEET ON THAT PROPERTY JUST TO LOWER THAT HILL DOWN.
SO I KNOW THE KIDS HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS GOING THAT WAY RIGHT NOW AND TRYING TO DO A DEVELOPMENT LIKE WAWA OR ANYTHING RIGHT NOW ON THAT CORNER, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE CONGESTED FOR THE KIDS.
SO I'M LOOKING FOR THE KIDS AND I'M LOOKING AT THE GREEN SPACE.
I'M LOOKING AT 30 FOOT, YOU KNOW, TAKING OUT ALL THAT DIRT AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, WHICH LOSE ALL THAT GREEN SPACE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IN HUB HEIGHTS WANTS MORE GREEN SPACE.
SO AGAIN, NOT AGAINST WAWA FOR ANOTHER LOCATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I'M AGAINST A REZONING ON THAT.
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IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THE WAWA ISSUE THIS EVENING? OKAY, NEXT I WOULD CALL ANY MEMBERS OF THE RIGHT CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT COUNSEL MAY HAVE.UH, I KIND OF FELT LIKE YOU WERE ANTICIPATING THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE EXPECTED ANYTHING, ANYTHING LESS.
UM, FOR THIS EVENING, AM I ADDRESSING MY COMMENTS TO MR. CRELL? YEP.
UM, YOU, YOU HAD MENTIONED IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY, UM, WHO WAS THE TRAFFIC STUDY DONE BY? THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE BY STONEFIELD.
STONEFIELD, THE ENGINEERS AND STONEFIELD ENGINEERS SAYS ONLY 16 TRIPS ARE GONNA GO TO THAT LOCATION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
OH, I, I BELIEVE I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT 16 TRIPS.
SO, UH, WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT DURING PEAK HOUR OF THE TRIPS THAT WOULD BE GENERATED BY THIS STORE, THE DISTRIBUTION BETWEEN NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST, UH, 16 WOULD BE HEADED WESTBOUND ON CHAMBERSBURG.
THE OTHER 160 OR SO WOULD BE DISTRIBUTED PRIMARILY NORTH SOUTH ONTO CHAMBERSBURG A LITTLE BIT, OR SORRY, NORTH, SOUTH ON, UH, OLD TROY PIKE.
UH, AND THEN, UH, A LITTLE BIT, UH, THE REMAINDER HEADING EASTBOUND ON CHAMBERSBURG.
BUT THE ENGINEERS HERE, IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO THE DETAILS ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY, WHAT DID, SO WHAT WOULD BE THE PERCENTAGE OF TRAFFIC? UM, DON'T GIMME NUMBERS, I WANNA GET PERCENTAGES.
OKAY, SO HERE, HERE, HERE'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT TO, TO PUT ANYTHING AT TO CHAMBERSBURG AND TROY AND SAY THAT ONLY 15% OF YOUR TRAFFIC IS GONNA GO DOWN CHAMBERSBURG.
UH, AND HERE'S THE SIMPLE REASON WHY.
YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW PEEWEE FOOTBALL FIELD DOWN THERE.
YOU HAVE BASEBALL FIELDS DOWN THAT ROAD.
UM, YOU HAVE A RIP WRAP, SHAKE SHACK, AND A LOT OF OTHER, UM, WONDERFUL AREAS DOWN THERE.
AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME THAT 15% OF THE TRAFFIC DURING THE SUMMER AND FALL HOURS, UH, IS ALL THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE, UM, I I GOT A BRIDGE TO SELL YOU SOMEWHERE IN SAN FRANCISCO.
YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT THE STUDY SAYS.
THIS IS DURING PEAK HOURS, RIGHT? OF THE NEW TRIPS GENERATED BY THIS STORE ONLY THAT WOULD BE GENERATED BY THIS STORE.
SO THERE'S A 76% PASS BY RATE.
SO AT DURING THE PEAK HOUR, UH, SO LET'S TALK IN THE AFTERNOON FOR FOOTBALL.
UH, THE, THE WAY THEY DID THIS STUDY WAS THEY ACTUALLY DID THE TRAFFIC, UH, COUNTS WHEN SCHOOL WAS IN SESSION, UH, TO GET THE HIGHEST, UH, RATE OF, OF GET THE MOST ACCURATE COUNTS RATHER THAN JUST OVER A STANDARD, YOU KNOW, 24 HOUR, UH, DAY.
SO ON CONVENIENCE STORES, KIND OF THE RULE OF THUMB IS THAT 75 6% OF THAT TRAFFIC IS THERE ANYWAY.
UH, THAT, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT LOCATION.
BUT THE STUDY SHOWS IS THAT THE NET NEW TRIPS GENERATED BY WAWA, AND THERE COULD BE USERS THAT WOULD COME INTO THIS SITE NOW THAT WOULD GENERATE FAR GREATER THAN, THAN A CONVENIENCE STORE.
BUT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS THAT, UH, OF THE NEW TRIPS GENERATED BY THE FACT THAT WAWA IS HERE, WHICH IN THE AFTERNOON OR EVENING, SO FIVE TO SIX OR SO, UH, WOULD BE 179 DURING THAT HOUR.
IT'S THE WAY TRAFFIC'S MAJORS ON THAT PEAK HOUR.
UM, OF THAT ABOUT 15% OR 16, UH, 16, WELL, 15 TO 20%, UH, WOULD BE HEADED WESTBOUND NOW, PARTLY BECAUSE I MEAN, THE, THE WESTBOUND IS LARGELY RESIDENTIAL, SO IT'S THE FOLKS THAT ARE HEADING DOWN TOWARDS END OF COTTON AND THAT AREA.
NOW, ON THOSE TIMES WHEN THERE IS, UH, ACTIVITY AT THE SOCCER FIELDS, YEAH, THAT PROBABLY IS GONNA BE HAVE A, A LARGER, UM, UH, NUMBER OF VEHICLES TRAVELING FROM OLD TROY PIKE WEST DOWN CHAMBERSBURG.
BUT IT'S LARGELY DRIVEN BY THOSE USERS AT THE, AT THE SOCCER FIELDS AND, AND THEY'RE ALREADY DRIVING BY HERE.
AND WHAT WAS THE STACK COUNT GIVEN, UM, IN THAT, UH, ON THAT ROADWAY? AND, AND, AND HERE'S WHY I ASKED THAT.
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I MEAN, JUST GETTING DOWN TO BRASS TACKS, THAT INTERSECTION, UM, THERE, FOR ANYBODY WHO'S TRAVELED, UH, THAT INTERSECTION, UM, DURING PEAK OR NON-PEAK TIME, YOU'RE TRYING TO GET INTO WALGREENS, UM, YOU'RE TRYING TO TURN OUT A WALGREENS MM-HMM.UH, THAT I WOULD PUT PROBABLY CLOSE TO, UH, TROY PIKE AND MERRILEE WAY.
UM, I WOULD HONESTLY, UH, BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT THE ACCIDENT RATIO HAS BEEN AT THAT INTERSECTION.
UM, I KNOW THIS COUNCIL HAS MOVED FORWARD, UM, WITH A PLAN TO WIDEN CHAMBERSBURG WITH SIDEWALKS MM-HMM.
IT'S IN THE PROCESS OF BEING DESIGNED AND GOING THROUGH THE, I WOULDN'T SAY THE ODOT S PROCESSES HAS AS MANY STEPS AS DANTE, BUT IT IS A LONG PROCESS.
SO WE ARE IN, UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE IN, UH, DESIGN, THE, THE FIRST PHASE OF DESIGN.
THERE'S TWO MORE PHASES OF DESIGN, ASSUMING NO ROADBLOCKS, WHICH WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY, UH, CONSTRUCTION IS SLATED TO START JUNE OF, UH, OF 2026.
SO WE'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, ABOUT LESS THAN THREE YEARS.
BUT, UH, IT IS, IT'S BEEN FUNDED, UH, AND IT'S, IT'S ON, ITS, IT'S WORKING THROUGH ITS ODOT LENGTHY PROCESS.
MY MY OTHER CONCERN IS THIS, UM, ENTRANCE, UM, AND EXIT, UH, ONTO CHAMBERSBURG, OR I'M SORRY, ONTO TROY PIKE.
IT IS, UH, RIGHT IN, LEFT OUT, RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT.
YOU, YOU, YOU TAKE A, A, UH, A, IN MY OPINION, A GASOLINE TRUCK, UM, TURNING LEFT OUTTA THERE TO GO NORTHBOUND ON TROY OR A, UM, AN ICE CREAM TRUCK OR, UH, ANY TYPE OF DELIVERY TRUCK FOR THAT MATTER.
UM, AND YOU HAVE, UM, OUR CURRENT, UM, DRAG STRIP DOWN THAT WAY.
UM, IN MY OPINION, IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE A MASSIVE COLLISION HAPPENS RIGHT THERE.
UM, AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I DRIVE THAT ROAD EVERY DAY, MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY.
UM, THE LINE OF SIGHT IS NOT AN ISSUE, UH, UNTIL YOU HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON IN THAT LOCATION, CHILDREN WALKING, TRAFFIC, UM, ADDITIONALLY AT NIGHTTIME, IT'S, UH, IT'S A LITTLE DARK IN THAT AREA.
AND I CAN SEE A HUGE CONCERN FOR THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL.
SO IF WE WERE TO PUT A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT ONLY, UH, YOU WOULD EXASPERATE THE ISSUES ON CHAMBERSBURG BECAUSE THAT WOULD FUNNEL ALL OF THE LEFT OR THE NORTHBOUND, UH, TRAFFIC ONTO CHAMBERSBURG.
UM, AND SO DURING, DURING, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN PERIODS OF TIME, UH, DURING THE MORNING AND EVENING, PARTICULARLY THE MORNING, UH, WELL IN EVENING COMMUTE, UM, YEAH, THERE MAY BE SOME, SOME STACKING THAT WOULD OCCUR ON SITE WHILE THEY'RE WAITING FOR A BREAK OF TRAFFIC.
BUT WHILE I'VE STOOD OUT THERE WATCHING THE SIGNAL SIGNALIZATION AND THE TIMING, THERE ARE, UM, ADEQUATE BREAKS, UM, FOR, FOR THAT TO, FOR THE TRAFFIC TO, TO COME OFFSITE.
BUT RESTRICTING THIS, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, RESTRICTING THAT TO A WRITE-IN WRITE OUT WOULD CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS ON CHAMBERSBURG.
UH, I, AARON, I THINK WE WOULD AGREE THAT OVERALL THAT, THAT THERE WOULD BE TRAFFIC, THERE'S GOING TO BE TRAFFIC ISSUES THERE.
I'LL MOVE ON TO MY NEXT TOPIC.
UM, EV STATIONS, UH, YOU SAID THIS SITE WILL NOT CURRENTLY BE SET UP WITH AN EV STATION, SO IT WILL BE SORT OF LACK OF BETTER WORD, IT'LL BE PLUMBED OR WIRED FOR ONE CORRECT, UH, FOR THEM.
UH, BUT, UH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THERE ARE NOT PLANS TO ACTUALLY PUT THE, UH, THE INVERTER, UM, CHARGING FACILITY ON THERE.
NOW, IF THAT IS A CONDITION THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO IMPOSE, WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE EV MARKET IS, UH, IN THIS AREA.
UM, BUT THEY HAVE AT LEAST THEY ARE, UM, WIRING IT, WHICH IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE COST.
WELL, I WOULD SAY SINCE, UH, PLUG SHARE HAS RATED THIS AREA WITH A 43% INCREASE OVER THE PAST 24 MONTHS, I'D SAY THAT THE DATA'S ALREADY THERE, INCLUDING THE FACT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WALMART HAS PUT IN A, A HUGE CHUNK OF MONEY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THAT.
ADDITIONALLY, UH, THAT WAS, UH, SEEN BY THE FORD MOTOR COMPANY TO BRING THEIR NEW MOCK EV UH, MUSTANG DOWN HERE JUST TO GO TO THAT LOCATION BECAUSE THEY SEE THE, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLE, UM, TRANSITION IN THE AREA.
UM, ONE OF MY OTHER, OTHER CONCERNS IS YOU SAID THAT, UH, CHOICE ONE IS WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER, UM, ABOUT THE, UM, UH, THE CHAMBERSBURG LOCATION.
SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE A SIGNED PACKAGE.
WE DON'T HAVE A FULLY UNDERSTOOD ENTRANCE OR EXIT AT THAT LOCATION, UM, BECAUSE OF THEY'RE, THEY'RE WORKING WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
UM, AND, AND THIS LEGISLATION IS
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FOR THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE ZONING, AM I CORRECT? CORRECT.SO THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN WOULD NOT COME BACK IN FRONT OF THIS COUNCIL REGARDING ANY TYPE OF THE, UH, THE TREE ISSUES OR ANY TYPE OF THE OTHER BOUNDARY ISSUES THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED BY THE NEIGHBORS? NO, THAT WOULD BE HANDLED BY PLANNING COMMISSION.
MAYOR, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE AT THIS TIME.
ANY OTHER MEMBER OF COUNSEL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO PROVIDE? ANITA? I, I KIND OF AGREE WITH, UM, MR. DAVIDSON, AND I DIDN'T GET YOUR NAME.
UH, I DIDN'T SAY IT'S GEORGE DOWELL.
MR. DOWELL MY CONCERN, I LOVE WAWA.
I'M CONCERNED, AND I'VE SAID IT TO COUNSEL, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF GAS STATIONS WE'RE GETTING HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHETHER WE CAN SUPPORT 'EM.
AND NOT THAT YOU WOULD GO OUT OF BUSINESS, BUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH ALL OF THESE SMALL MOM AND PAUL GAS STATIONS AS THEY CLOSE DOWN? BECAUSE I FORESEE THEY'RE GONNA BE CLOSING DOWN AND E P A STANDARDS.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A, JUST A BLIGHTED LAND OF DEAD SMALL GAS STATIONS, AND WE HAVE NO PLAN AS TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS WHEN THIS HAPPENS.
AND THAT'S A BIG CONCERN OF MINE BECAUSE FOR HOW NICE WAWA IS GONNA LOOK, HOW ABOUT IF THE GAS STATION'S NEAR WAWA GO OUT OF BUSINESS, HOW IS THAT GOING TO LOOK IN THE COMMUNITY? WE NEED TO THINK AHEAD.
SO THAT'S MY STATEMENT ON THIS.
YES, NANCY? UM, A COUPLE THINGS.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY MOM AND POP GAS STATIONS THERE ARE IN THIS CITY.
I THINK MOST OF THEM ARE, ARE OWNED THROUGH THE OIL COMPANY OR FRANCHISED, AREN'T THEY? THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF CORPORATE OWNED, BUT MOST ARE FRANCHISED.
UM, THEY, YOU DID SAY THAT THERE WOULD BE A SIDEWALK ON CHAMBERSBURG.
AND THAT'S ON THE WAWA SIDE? YEAH, SO THE, THE, THERE'S ALREADY A, A SIDEWALK ON, UH, OLD TROY PIKE THAT WILL REMAIN UNCHANGED.
THERE MAY BE SOME CONSTRUCTION ISSUES THAT, THAT HAD, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE ON THE NORTH SIDE, THAT, BUT THIS SHOULD BY AND LARGE, REMAIN OPEN THROUGHOUT CONSTRUCTION.
THE, THE LARGER SIDEWALK, THE, THE MULTI-USE PATH, UH, WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF OUR WIDENING OF, OF CHAMBERSBURG.
UM, MY, MY BIGGEST CON WELL, TWO THINGS.
AS YOU MOVE FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS, COULD YOU POSSIBLY CREATE A, I'M A VISUAL PERSON, COULD YOU CREATE A VISUAL OF HOW THE ELEVATION WILL CHANGE WHEN THE ROAD IS, IS LOWERED? UM, I CAN DO THAT.
IT'S TO DROP 30 FEET OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S QUITE A BIT.
SO, SO THE SITE ISN'T DROPPING 30 FEET.
UM, SO LET ME, LET ME BE CLEAR.
UM, BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS, LET ME GO TO A DIFFERENT PICTURE.
SO A SO FROM ABOUT KI LIKE THIS, RIGHT NOW, THIS PINE TREE OR, OR EVERGREEN HERE IS SLATED TO STAY AS PART OF THE LANDSCAPING, UM, PROCESS.
AND I ONLY SAY THAT FOR SORT OF FRAME OF REFERENCE ABOUT RIGHT HERE IS WHERE THE SITE KIND OF THE PLATEAU IS.
SO WHERE THE HOUSE CURRENTLY STANDS IS A, IS WHERE ROUGHLY THE ELEVATION, UH, OF WHERE THE GAS STATION WILL BE.
WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING IS YOU'RE THERE, YOU'RE, IT'LL DIG INTO THE HILLSIDE, UH, AS PART OF, OF THE GRADING.
SO WHERE THE HOUSE IS NOW IS EFFECTIVELY THE ELEVATION OF WHERE WAWA BE, WELL, WHERE WAWA WILL BE, GIVE OR TAKE.
SO, UM, IT'S NOT GONNA BE AT GRADE HERE AT, UH, AT CHAMBERSBURG OR OLD TROY PIKE.
THERE'S GONNA BE, THE DRIVEWAY WILL BE HERE AND YOU'LL KIND OF GO UP TO ABOUT HERE-ISH, UH, AT WHERE THE, THE CURRENT HOUSE, UH, SITS.
SO THERE ISN'T A GRADE CHANGE OF 30 FEET GOING DOWN TO, TO MAKE IT, UM, LEVEL WITH THE, THE CURRENT GEOMETRY OF ROY PIKER CHAMBERSBURG.
THEY'RE REALLY KIND OF CUTTING INTO THE HILLSIDE, KIND OF RIGHT, RIGHT HERE, GIVE OR TAKE, UM, TO FLATTEN THAT SITE OUT.
SO THAT'S WHY WHEN I SAY THERE'S A 16 FOOT OR A 20 FOOT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HERE TO HERE, YEAH, 16 FOOT OF IT IS ABOUT RIGHT HERE
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BECAUSE THEY'RE CUTTING OUT TO THE SIDE OF THE HILL.SO THERE WILL BE TREE CLEARING THAT OCCURS HERE, BUT THE PERIMETER, GIVE OR TAKE SHOULD RELATE, REMAIN SOMEWHAT, UM, UH, AS IS, SO WHAT, HOW IS THE ELEVATION GONNA CHANGE ON CHAMBERSBURG? SO THERE'S A HILL.
SO WHERE WE'RE CHANGING IS THE GEOMETRY OF THE STREET, WHICH IS, I, I BELIEVE THE HILL IS ABOUT HERE, GIVE OR TAKE, UM, THAT, THAT STREET GEOMETRY SAY FROM LIKE HERE THIS WAY WILL BE LOWERED ABOUT FOUR FEET.
SO IT TAKES OUT THAT HUMP THAT YOU SEE AS YOU DRIVE WESTBOUND ON CHAMBERSBURG.
WELL, I WOULD HOPE AS WE GO FORWARD, AND I KNOW THERE'LL BE MORE TALK ABOUT THIS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND UH, FOR THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT I WOULD HOPE UNTIL THAT ROAD IMPROVEMENT IS MADE, THAT THERE WILL BE SOME SIGNAGE PUT UP BEFORE YOU REACH THE HUMP BECAUSE THERE WILL, COMING OVER THAT HILL WITH THE INCREASED TRAFFIC, YOU HAVE THE REAL POTENTIAL FOR REAR END.
WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD SIGNAGE ALONG ALONG CHAMBERSBURG.
THANK YOU MAYOR AARON, COULD YOU PLEASE CLARIFY? SO YOU TALKED ABOUT WE'RE NOT GOING DOWN TO THE GREATER CHAMBERSBURG, OLD TROY.
WHERE ARE THE GAS TANK'S GONNA BE DUG INTO? OKAY.
UM, SO ESSENTIALLY THE GAS TANKS WILL BE ABOUT RIGHT HERE.
THEY WILL, THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO, TO UM, DIG INTO THE LIMESTONE THAT, UH, THAT IS, IS, WELL THIS WHOLE SITE IS, IS HEAVY LIMESTONE.
WHICH THEY, THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT.
UM, BUT THEY'LL BASICALLY, LIKE ANY OTHER GAS STATION, THEY WILL BE BELOW GROUND.
AND SO, UH, THEY'RE GONNA DIG INTO BASICALLY A PIT, UH, AND SET 'EM, SET 'EM IN THERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? YES.
AARON, CAN YOU GO TO YOUR SLIDE? UH, SIX, DESCRIBE IT FOR ME.
I'M PROBABLY LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT PRESENTATION.
THESE ARE THE PICTURES YOU HAD OF, UH, UH, THE SITE FROM CHAMBERSBURG AMP FROM TROY.
OH, I TOOK A COUPLE OF 'EM OUT FOR THIS ONE TO OKAY.
AARON, YOU CAN'T GO TO YOUR SLIDE SIX, SO NEVERMIND.
UH, SO I WAS KIND OF LOOKING FOR, UH, YOUR GUESSTIMATION AS TO HOW THE ELEVATION WOULD LOOK, BUT, UH, SINCE YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT I CAN SEE.
I, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE THE SAME NEXT TIME FROM THE WORK SESSION TO HERE.
UM, JUST OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD THEN, SO WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IN THIS SLIDE IS A PICTURE THAT SHOWS OBVIOUSLY THE VERY TOP OF THE ROOF AS I'M STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF, UM, OLD TROY PI.
SO WOULD THAT SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE? UM, IS THE TOP OF THE BUILDING GONNA BE ABOUT WHERE THE TOP OF THE ROOF LINE IS IN THIS PICTURE? DO YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT TALLER? UM, THERE WILL CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LANDSCAPING, THE GRADING, UM, THAT WILL OCCUR.
'CAUSE THERE THEY WANT SITE VISIBILITY, RIGHT.
SO THE, THE BUILDING WILL HAVE A PRESENCE THERE AS WELL AS THE, THE FUEL CANOPY.
SO YOU'RE REALLY GONNA SEE THE FUEL CANOPIES FIRST.
THE BUILDING BEHIND, UM, THE, I DON'T HAVE WITH ME THE ELEVATION OF, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW TALL THAT HOUSE IS, BUT THE, THE BUILDING ITSELF IS ABOUT 24 FEET OR SO.
UM, SO IT WILL BE, SO IT WILL BE SIMILAR.
IT WILL BE HIGHER, NOT SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER.
IT'LL HAVE A BIGGER PRESENCE JUST 'CAUSE IT'S A MUCH BIGGER BUILDING.
YEAH, SO JUST TO HELP CLARIFY THE, UM, THE, THE, THE, THE CURRENT HOMES FINISHED FLOOR IS ROUGHLY SEVEN FEET ABOVE WHERE WAWA WILL BE.
SO WAWA'S GONNA DROP DOWN SLIGHTLY FROM WHERE THE CURRENT HOME IS, JUST TO GIVE YOU A REFERENCE.
SO IF YOU'RE KIND OF USED TO LOOKING THROUGH THE TREES AND WHERE THAT'S SITTING JUST SLIGHTLY BELOW THAT, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
YEAH, I JUST BELIEVE, OKAY, ANYONE FROM COUNCIL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR OTHER INFORMATION THEY'D LIKE TO PROVIDE? OKAY.
ONE LAST TIME I'D ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR
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OF OR AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THE WAWA ISSUE THIS EVENING.SO BARRING ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, THE PUBLIC HEARING BY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE B D P 23 DASH 17 IS HEREBY CLOSED.
[ An Ordinance To Approve A Rezoning Of Approximately 2.44 Acres From Office (O1) To Planned Commercial (PC) And To Approve A Basic Development Plan Of 5.41 Acres For The Property Located At 4949 Chambersburg Road And Further Identified As Parcel Numbers P70 04004 0017 And P70 04004 0026 On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Map And To Accept The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Case BDP 23-17). (first reading)]
TO OUR AGENDA AND WE ARE AT ITEM 11 C, I BELIEVE, CORRECT? CORRECT.ITEM 11 C, AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REZONING OF APPROXIMATELY 2.44 ACRES FROM OFFICE OH ONE TO PLANNING COMMERCIAL PC AND TO APPROVE A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF FIVE 5.41 ACRES FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 49 49 CHAMBERSBURG ROAD.
FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PERSONAL NUMBERS P 7 0 0 4 0 0 4 0 0 1 7 AND P 7 0 0 4 0 0 4 0 0 2 6 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP.
AND TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN CASE B D P TWO THREE DASH ONE SEVEN AT THE FIRST READING.
RICK, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? I DO NOT.
AND THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION, IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO PASS THIS ITEM TO A SECOND READING THIS EVENING.
SO IF THERE'S A MAJORITY OBJECTION THIS EVENING, WE'LL MOVE THIS ITEM ONTO A SECOND.
THIS ITEM WILL MOVE TO ITS SECOND READING AS PROPOSED.
[ A Resolution Amending And/Or Establishing The City Of Huber Heights Organizational Chart And Authorizing The New Personnel Staffing Levels As Detailed Below. (first reading)]
UP IS ITEM 11 D, ITEM 11 D A RESOLUTION, AMENDING AND OR ESTABLISHING THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS ORGANIZATIONAL CHART AND AUTHORIZING THE NEW PERSONNEL STAFFING LEVELS AS DETAILED BELOW AT THE FIRST READING.AND I WOULD CALL ON OUR C MANAGER, RICK, TO ADDRESS THE ORDER CHART.
SO WHEN I WAS HERE FOR, UH, MEET, MEET AND GREET TWO WEEKS AGO, I MET WITH UH, BRIAN AS WELL AS TONY TO DISCUSS THE ORG CHART.
UH, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF GENERAL PHILOSOPHIES THAT WE RESTED ON, WHICH WAS, UH, WE NEED TO DISTRIBUTE THE DIRECT REPORTS EVENLY BETWEEN BRIAN AND I AND ADDITIONALLY, UH, WE SHOULD DISTRIBUTE THOSE REPORTS BASED ON BRIAN AND MY STRENGTHS.
AND SO, UM, I'M STRONG IN HR, STRONG IN, UH, IT, UH, GOOD AT FINANCE, BRIAN'S BREAD AND BUTTER'S OBVIOUSLY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND UH, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS REALLY FEED THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, CONCEPT.
SO BASICALLY WE CAME UP WITH A CHART THAT IN ADDITION TO, UH, THE FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, I WOULD OVERSEE H R I AND FINANCE AND BRIAN WOULD CONTINUE TO OVERSEE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PARKS, REC AND PUBLIC WORKS.
AND THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT THIS ORG CHART THIS EVENING.
IS THERE A MOTION MARK? MOTION TO ADOPT RICHARD.
AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, TONY.
[ An Ordinance Authorizing Advances And Transfers Between Various Funds Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio And Amending Ordinance No. 2022-O-2562 By Making Supplemental Appropriations For Expenses Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio For The Period Beginning January 1, 2023 And Ending December 31, 2023. (first reading)]
E.ITEM 11 E AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING ADVANCES AND TRANSFERS BETWEEN VARIOUS FUNDS OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO AND AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 0 2 2 DASH OH DASH 2 5 6 2 BY MAKING SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR EXPENSES OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO FOR THE PERIOD BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2023 AND ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2023 AT THE FIRST STREET.
AND RICK, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? YEAH, UH, THE BIGGEST PART OF THIS IS IN ADVANCE FOR AN ASSISTANCE TO FIREFIGHTERS GRANT WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT MORE, UH, IN YOUR LAST RESOLUTION.
UH, THERE'S SOME OTHER MINOR BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS, UM, BUT THAT'S IT.
AND THE WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING THIS EVENING AND ADOPT THIS ITEM.
IS THERE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING? DON, I'LL MOVE TO WAIVE SECOND.
IS THERE A SECOND TO WAIVE? OKAY, SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO WAIVE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? TONY, MRS. KITCHEN? YES.
A MOTION TO WAIVE CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
AND NEXT I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ADOPTION.
AND SECOND, A DISCUSSION ON THE ADOPTION ATTORNEY.
AND THE MOTION TO APPROVE ALSO CARRIES TO ZERO.
[ An Ordinance Providing For The Issuance And Sale Of Notes In The Maximum Principal Amount Of $1,800,000, In Anticipation Of The Issuance Of Bonds, For The Purpose Of Paying The Costs Of Improving The Municipal Fire Safety Facilities By Constructing, Furnishing And Equipping A New Fire Station, And Otherwise Improving The Site Therefor, Together With All Necessary Appurtenances Thereto. (first reading)]
F ITEM 11 F AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF NOTES AND THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPAL AMOUNT, $1,800,000 IN ANTICIPATION OF THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE COST OF IMPROVING THE MUNICIPAL FIRE SAFETY FACILITIES BY CONSTRUCTING, FURNISHING AND EQUIPPING A NEW FIRE STATION AND OTHERWISE IMPROVING[01:50:01]
THE SITE.THEREFORE, TOGETHER WITH ALL NECESSARY A PS THERE TOO AT THE FIRST READ, RICK, THIS IS ADDITIONAL DEBT.
UM, THERE WAS ALREADY DEBT ISSUED TO BUILD A STATION, BUT THERE'S STILL MORE REMAINING TO TO PAY.
COUNCIL WORKS SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO PASS THIS ITEM TO A SECOND.
READING WITHOUT MAJORITY OBJECTION.
WE'LL MOVE THIS ONTO A SECOND.
ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY, SO WE'LL MOVE THIS ON.
[ An Ordinance Providing For The Issuance And Sale Of Notes In The Maximum Principal Amount Of $7,262,000, In Anticipation Of The Issuance Of Bonds, For The Purpose Of Paying The Costs Of Acquiring Approximately 19.5 Acres Of Real Property Near The Intersection Of Brandt Pike And Fishburg Road, Providing For The Site Preparation Thereof, Improving And Rehabilitating Certain Of The Buildings And Razing Certain Other Buildings Located Thereupon, All In Support Of Economic Development And Job Creation Within The City. (first reading)]
G.ITEM 11 G AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF NOTES AND THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPLE AMOUNT, $7,262,000 IN ANTICIPATION OF THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE COST OF ACQUIRING APPROXIMATELY 19.5 ACRES OF REAL PROPERTY NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF BRANT PIKE AND FISHBURG ROAD PROVIDING FOR THE SITE PREPARATION THEREOF, IMPROVING AND REHABILITATING CERTAIN OF THE BUILDINGS AND RAISING CERTAIN OTHER BUILDINGS LOCA LOCATED THERE UPON ALL IN SUPPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND JOB CREATION WITHIN THE CITY AT THE FIRST REEF.
AND RICK, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? UH, SO YEAH, AS IT SAYS, UH, THE LAND WAS BOUGHT IN 2020, UH, THIS IS TO GET THE LAND READY.
BRIAN, AM I CORRECT IN MY NOTES THAT IT'S ALSO DOING OR ADDING SOME FUNDS FOR RENOVATION TO THE STRIP MALL? UH, THAT IS CORRECT.
THIS, UH, BOND ISSUANCE IS, UH, DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE MARION MEADOWS PROJECT SITE OF THE VARIOUS SUB-PROJECTS, UH, AT THAT LOCATION.
AND THE WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ITEM WAS TO PASS TO A SECOND READING.
ALSO, IS THERE A MAJORITY OBJECTION TO MOVING ITEM TO THE SECOND READING? OKAY, SEE NO OBJECTION.
WE'LL MOVE THIS ON TO A SECOND.
[ An Ordinance Providing For The Issuance And Sale Of Notes In The Maximum Principal Amount Of $6,238,000, In Anticipation Of The Issuance Of Bonds, For The Purpose Of Paying The Costs Of Improving The City’s Facilities By Constructing, Furnishing And Equipping A New Building To House The Public Works Department, Including Landscaping, Site Improvements, Any Necessary Utility Improvements, Constructing Related Parking Facilities, And Acquiring Real Property And Interests Therein In Connection Therewith, All Together With The Necessary Appurtenances Thereto. (first reading)]
11 H.ITEM 11 H IN ORDINANCE, PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE OF SALE OF NOTES AND THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPAL AMOUNT, $6,238,000 IN ANTICIPATION OF THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE COST OF IMPROVING THE CITY'S FACILITIES BY CONSTRUCTING, FURNISHING AND EQUIPPING A NEW BUILDING TO HOUSE THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING LANDSCAPING SITE IMPROVEMENTS, ANY NECESSARY UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS, CONSTRUCTING RELATED PARKING FACILITIES, AND ACQUIRING REAL PROPERTY AND INTEREST THEREIN IN CONNECTION THEREWITH ALTOGETHER WITH THE NECESSARY APPEARANCES THERE TOO AT THE FIRST STREET.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS RICK? UH, SO AS IT SAYS, IT'S FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY PURCHASE, THE LAND DESIGN.
AND UH, WHAT JIM TELLS ME IS THAT IT ALSO INCLUDES THE FIRST 5 MILLION IN CONSTRUCTION.
WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS THE PASS TIME TO A SECOND READING ONCE AGAIN, IS THERE A MAJORITY OBJECTION, AC NONE.
WE'LL MOVE THIS ITEM ON TO THE SECOND READING AS WELL.
[ An Ordinance Providing For The Issuance And Sale Of Notes In The Maximum Principal Amount Of $2,800,000, In Anticipation Of The Issuance Of Bonds, For The Purpose Of Paying The Costs Of The Meadows Infrastructure Project Including Constructing, Reconstructing, Extending, Opening, Improving, Widening, Grading, Draining And Changing The Lines Of Municipal Roads, Streets And Highways, Installing Curbs, Sidewalks And Landscaping, Installing, Improving And Relocating Street Lighting, Traffic Signalization And Electrical Lines, And Constructing, Reconstructing, Extending And Improving Storm Sewers And Culverts, Water And Sanitary Sewer Lines In Connection Therewith, And Acquiring Any Necessary Real Property And Interests Therein In Connection Therewith, Together With All Necessary Appurtenances Thereto. (first reading)]
I.ITEM 11 I AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF NOTES IN THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF $2,800,000 IN ANTICIPATION OF THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE COST OF THE MEADOWS INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT, INCLUDING CONSTRUCTING, RECONSTRUCTING, EXTENDING, OPENING AND PROVING WIDENING GRADING, DRAINING AND CHANGING THE LINES OF MUNICIPAL ROAD STREETS AND HIGHWAYS, INSTALLING CURBS, SIDEWALKS AND LANDSCAPING, INSTALLING, IMPROVING AND RELOCATING STREET LIGHTING TRAFFIC, SIGNALIZATION AND ELECTRICAL LINES, AND CONSTRUCTING, RECONSTRUCTING, EXTENDING AND IMPROVING STORM SEWERS AND CULVERTS WATER AND SANITARY SEWER LINES IN CONNECTION.
THEREWITH AND ACQUIRING ANY NECESSARY REAL PROPERTY AND INTEREST THEREIN IN CONNECTION THEREWITH TOGETHER WITH ALL NECESSARY APPURTENANCES THERE TOO AT THE FIRST READING, RICK.
UH, SO YEAH, THIS IS INFRASTRUCTURE ALL RELATED TO THE NEW GOVERNANCE CENTER.
WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO PASS AS ITEM TO A SECOND READING.
AND ONCE AGAIN, IS THERE A MAJORITY OBJECTION TO MOVING THIS ITEM TO ANOTHER READING? OKAY, YOU SEEING NONE? WE WILL MOVE THIS ONTO ITS SECOND READING AND NEXT
[ An Ordinance Providing For The Issuance And Sale Of Notes In The Maximum Principal Amount Of $5,800,000, In Anticipation Of The Issuance Of Bonds, For The Purpose Of Paying The Costs Of Improving The City’s Municipal Waterworks System By Constructing And Installing Water Lines, Constructing A New Water Well, And Acquiring Any Necessary Real Property And Interests Therein In Connection Therewith, All Together With The Necessary Appurtenances Thereto. (first reading)]
WE HAVE ITEM 11 J.ITEM 11 J AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF BONDS AND, UH, NOTES, EXCUSE ME, IN THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF $5,800,000 IN THE ANTICIPATION OF THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE COST OF IMPROVING THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL WATER WORK SYSTEM BY CONSTRUCTING AND INSTALLING WATER LINES, CONSTRUCTING A NEW WATER WELL AND ACQUIRING ANY NECESSARY REAL PROPERTY AND INTEREST THERE IN, IN CONNECTION THERE WITH ALTOGETHER WITH THE NECESSARY ANCE.
IS THERE TOO AT THE FIRST STREET? AND ONCE AGAIN, RICK, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? UM, SO WE KNOW IT'S FOR THE WATER WELL, UM, BUT ADDITIONALLY IT'S TO DO, UM, LINE REPLACEMENTS FROM WHAT I'M TOLD, THEY'RE GONNA FOCUS ON THE AREAS WITH THE WATER BREAKS WITH THESE FUNDS.
AND THE COUNCIL WORK, UH, WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO PASS THIS ITEM AS WELL ONTO A SECOND READING.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? NOT SEEING ANY MORE MAJORITY, ANY OBJECTION TO MOVE TO THE SECOND READING? THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.
[ An Ordinance Providing For The Issuance And Sale Of Notes In The Maximum Principal Amount Of $3,235,000, In Anticipation Of The Issuance Of Bonds, For The Purpose Of Paying The Costs Of Improving The City’s Facilities By Constructing, Furnishing And Equipping A New Building To House The City Council Chambers, A Senior Services Facility And Other Administrative Purposes, Including Landscaping, Site Improvements, Any Necessary Utility Improvements, Constructing Related Parking Facilities, And Acquiring Any Necessary Real Property And Interests Therein In Connection Therewith, All Together With The Necessary Appurtenances Thereto. (first reading)]
K, ITEM 11 K, AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF NOTES AND THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF $3,235,000 IN ANTICIPATION OF THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE COST OF IMPROVING THE CITY'S FACILITIES BY CONSTRUCTING, FURNISHING AND EQUIPPING A NEW BUILDING TO HOUSE THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS AS SENIOR, UH, SERVICES FACILITY AND OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE PURPOSES, INCLUDING LANDSCAPING SITE IMPROVEMENTS, ANY NECESSARY UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS,[01:55:01]
CONSTRUCTING RELATED PARKING FACILITIES AND ACQUIRING ANY NECESSARY REAL PROPERTY AND INTEREST THEREIN IN CONNECTION THEREWITH ALTOGETHER WITH THE NECESSARY PS THERE TO AT THE FIRST READING.RICK, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? YES.
SO THIS IS THE GOVERNANCE CENTER, UH, BOTH FOR THE LAMB PURCHASE AND ENGINEERING DESIGN.
AND THE WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO MOVE THIS ONE ALSO TO A SECOND.
WE'LL MOVE THIS ITEM ON AS WELL.
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Detention Pond Easement Agreement With Sheetz, Incorporated. (first reading)]
11 L, ITEM 11 L A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A DETENTION POND.EASEMENT AGREEMENT WITH SHEETS INCORPORATED AT THE FIRST JURY.
RICK, I'M GONNA KICK THIS ONE TO AARON.
SO, UH, THE, UH, THIS IS, UH, AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT WITH SHEETS TO CREATE A REGIONAL DETENTION, UM, POND.
UH, IN EXCHANGE FOR THE SOIL ON OUR PROPERTY.
UH, SHEETS WILL BUILD THE DETENTION POND.
UH, 25% OF THE CAPACITY WILL BE RESERVED FOR SHEETS 'CAUSE THAT'S ALL THEY NEED.
THE REMAINING 75% WILL HELP ADDRESS THE, UH, REQUIRED STORMWATER DETENTION FOR THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE DEVELOPED, UH, NORTH OF EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD.
AND THE COUNCIL WORK, UH, WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT THIS ITEM THIS EVENING.
IS THERE A MOTION MOVE TO ADOPT MARK? SECOND.
AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, TONY, CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Solicit A Request For Proposals From Behavioral Health Providers To Provide Behavioral Support Services For Members Of The Police Division. (first reading)]
11 M, ITEM 11 M A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SOLICIT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FROM BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROVIDERS TO PROVIDE BEHAVIORAL SUPPORT SERVICES FOR MEMBERS OF THE POLICE DIVISION AT THE FIRST MEETING.AND RICK, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? YEAH, THIS IS AN EARLIER GRANT THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ACQUIRED.
UH, THEY DIDN'T USE ALL THE GRANT FUNDS, SO THEY WANTED TO EXTEND IT TO THE POLICE DIVISION.
UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WERE TOLD BY THE STATE IF THEY CHANGED THE TERMS OF THE GRANT, THEY NEEDED TO REISSUE AN R F P.
SO WE'RE GONNA DO THAT TO ALLOW US TO USE THOSE FUNDS FOR THE POLICE DIVISION.
AND COUNCIL WORKS SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT THIS ITEM THIS EVENING AS WELL.
IS THERE A MOTION? OKAY, MOVE TO ADOPT RICHARD.
AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? TONY? MS. BAKER? YES.
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Accept A Grant, Under Certain Terms And Conditions, In An Amount Not To Exceed $412,000.00 From The U.S. Department Of Homeland Security Assistance To Firefighters Grant (AFG). (first reading)]
AND FINALLY IS ITEM 11 N.ITEM 11 N A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT A GRANT UNDER CERTAIN TERMS AND CONDITIONS IN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $412,000 FROM THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY ASSISTANCE TO FIREFIGHTERS GRANT A F G AT THE FIRST STREET.
SO THIS IS, UH, ASSISTANCE TO FIREFIGHTERS GRANT THAT, UH, CHIEF NLY ACQUIRED, UH, IS TO REPLACE ALL PORTABLE AND MO MOBILE RADIOS AT THE DEPARTMENT.
UH, THEY'RE DOING THIS FOR TWO REASONS.
THEY ARE PRETTY, UH, OLD, BUT ALSO IN 2025 MARK.
THE MARK RADIO SYSTEM IS GONNA REQUIRE A SECURITY UPDATE AND, UH, THE RADIOS WON'T ACCEPT THAT.
SO, UH, THERE IS A 10% MATCH, BUT FOR 10% WE'LL GET ALL OF THE RADIOS REPLACED, SO, OKAY.
AND WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION THIS EVENING, IS THERE A MOTION, CLINTON MOTION TO ADOPT ANITA.
[12. City Official Reports And Comments]
ITEM 12, WHICH IS CITY OFFICIAL REPORTS AND COMMENTS AS ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO DO? THANK YOU, MAYOR.UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'D JUST LIKE TO, UM, THANK AND GIVE MY CONDOLENCES TO, UH, ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT LOST THEIR LIVES SINCE SEPTEMBER 11TH ATTACK.
UH, ESPECIALLY, UM, THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE, UH, SURVIVED, UM, AND WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DEALING WITH.
UM, I JUST, UH, WANTED TO WISH THEM THE BEST AS THEY CONTINUE.
WHAT IS AN ONGOING LIFE STRUGGLE? UM, I'D LIKE TO THANK COUNSEL FOR, UH, SUPPORTING THE ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS TONIGHT.
I THINK THAT IS JUST ABSOLUTELY HUGE FOR WHAT COUNSEL'S DOING, UH, TO SUPPORT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHEN THEY, UH, SO BADLY NEED IT.
UM, AND WITH THAT, PAUL SCHAEFFER, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR, UH, SPEAKING IN CITIZENS' COMMENTS TONIGHT.
IT WAS, UH, UH, VERY WELL RECEIVED.
UH, VERY DETAILED AS YOU ARE, UH, ALWAYS, AND IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED.
ANYONE ELSE? ANITA? I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO A AND B.
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THE MARIGOLD FESTIVAL THIS WEEKEND 'CAUSE MY JOB REQUIRED ME TO BE THERE, BUT I WAS ABLE TO MAKE IT TO, UM, HALFTIME U S A AND I KNOW THAT'S A SCHOOL FUNCTION, NOT A CITY, BUT AFTER THE CHAOS ON FRIDAY NIGHT AT WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL, IT WAS GREAT TO GO TO A WONDERFUL, WELL-ATTENDED CALM EVENT.AND, UM, THEY DID A GREAT JOB.
ANYONE ELSE? OTHER COMMENTS? RICHARD? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UM, MAYOR, IT'S COME TO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT HAS BEEN SOME TIME SINCE WE'VE HAD A JOINT, UH, MEETING WITH OUR, UM, OUR SCHOOL PARTNERS.
UM, I, I THINK WE HAVE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT.
UM, IN ADDITION TO, UH, ANY TYPE OF, UM, EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE, UH, RECENTLY AT WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL, UM, I DO KNOW THAT THIS COUNCIL GAVE THE WORD TO THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT WE WOULD, UH, SIT DOWN AND REVISIT ANY ADDITIONAL SS R O NEEDS, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS, UM, STREET IMPROVEMENT PLANS, UH, WITHIN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, AS OF, UM, TURNING RADIUS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, MAYOR I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, HAVE A, UH, A SCHEDULED JOINT MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, UH, BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, UH, TO ADDRESS THOSE PREVIOUS ISSUES, UM, AND ALSO TO DISCUSS ANY TYPE OF NEW ONES THAT HAVE COME UP, UH, DURING THAT TIME.
SO TONY, I THINK PRIOR TO, UM, THE LAST ONE WAS SCHEDULED.
YOU HAD REACHED OUT TO, I BELIEVE, THE SUPERINTENDENT SECRETARY, AND THEN THEY GOT FORWARDED TO THE BOARD AND WE CAME UP WITH SOME DATES AND PICKED ONE.
SO ANY OBJECTION FOLLOWING THAT PROCESS THIS TIME? OKAY.
UM, I'D LIKE TO JOIN MR. LYONS AND THANKING COUNSEL FOR, UM, UM, MAKING A, A MOVEMENT TO, UH, UH, TO BUILD OUR POLICE FORCE TO TAKE CARE OF NOT ONLY THOSE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.
UH, IT'S VERY APPRECIATED AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME THE NEW KID, UH, UH, RICHARD.
UM, IT'S TAKEN US A WHILE, BUT I THINK WE MADE A GREAT CHOICE AND, UH, I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
I KNOW THE REST OF IS AS WELL.
I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE A GREAT CITY MANAGER.
REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, THE NEXT FEW YEARS WORKING WITH YOU HERE, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
WE MAKE SURE WE IDENTIFY THAT AS RICK
BECAUSE IF NOT, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF HEAD TURNING.
AND I THINK I HAD, UH, WE JUST ADD, I THINK I MADE MY, UH, FEELINGS ABOUT, UH, ABOUT RICK PRETTY CLEAR PRIOR TO THE, THE SWEARING CEREMONY.
AGAIN, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE, I DO THINK THAT, UH, THE DECISION THIS COUNCIL MADE, I THINK WE HAD A HOME RUN AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR EXPERTISE IN SO MANY DIFFERENT AREAS AND WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BRING TO THIS COUNCIL, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BRING TO THE CITY, AND, UM, AND IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE GONNA MAKE OVERALL TO THE ORGANIZATION.
AND, UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR LEADERSHIP AND, AND, AND ALL THOSE MATTERS.
SO THANK YOU AGAIN AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU, SIR.
ANYONE ELSE? MAYOR, COULD I ADD JUST ONE MORE COMMENT? SURE.
I'D LIKE TO ALSO THANK, UH, BRIAN SADOWSKI FOR WEARING, UH, THE 12 OR SO DIFFERENT HATS HE'S WORN, UH, AS IS TENURE AS INTERIM CITY MANAGER.
I WOULD, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I, I, I THINK I NEED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT TOO.
UM, BRIAN AND I HAD A CONVERSATION, I BELIEVE LAST FRIDAY, AND I WON'T GO INTO THE DETAILS OF THAT CONVERSATION, BUT IT EXPRESSED MY APPRECIATION TO BRIAN.
UH, IT HAS BEEN TOUGH AT TIMES.
WE'VE HAD SOME VERY DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS AT TIMES.
UM, BUT LOOKING AT THE OVERALL PICTURE OF WORK THAT HAS HAPPENED, UM, WITH ONLY ONE PERSON LEADING THE, THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE STAFF OF THE CITY, I, I THINK WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED IN THAT TIME PERIOD, BEING THE PEOPLE DOWN THAT WE HAVE IS PRETTY MUCH, UH, NOTHING SHORT OF A, OF A MIRACLE.
AND SO I WOULD JUST WANNA SAY PUBLICLY THAT THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR CONVERSATION, UH, WERE VERY GENUINE.
AND I APPRECIATE THE SERVICE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN TO THE CITY OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF.
AS DIFFICULT AS IT HAS BEEN AT TIMES AS DIFFICULT AS I HAVE BEEN TO WORK FOR AND WITH, UH, AT TIMES, UH, YOUR SERVICE HAS BEEN GREATLY APPRECIATED AND LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING YOU AROUND FOR, UH, FOR A WHILE.
ANYONE ELSE? YES, ANITA? I HAVE ONE OTHER THING.
UM, THE COUNCIL FIRST TIER WILL BE HERE ON THE 27TH, WHICH IS THE SAME TIME AS THE HOMECOMING PARADE.
I HAVE BOWED OUT OF THE HOMECOMING PARADE WILL BE AT FIRST HERE, BUT ANYBODY WHO CAN MAKE IT EVEN LATE, I REALLY WANNA TOUT UP OUR CITY BECAUSE EACH
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MONTH I GET TO HEAR ALL THESE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN ALL THESE OTHER SUBURBS.AND IT'S TIME FOR US TO TOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
IT IS NOW 8 0 5 AND THIS COUNCIL MEETING IS ADJOURNED.