Aug 28, 2023 City Council Meeting

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF HEBREW HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

[1. Call The Meeting To Order - Mayor Jeff Gore]

THIS IS A REGULAR SESSION.

TODAY'S DATE IS AUGUST 28TH.

WE'RE GETTING STARTED RIGHT AT SIX O'CLOCK.

THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDER.

NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER TWO, OUR INVOCATION

[2. Invocation - Pastor Vanetta Bellows Of The Wright-Patterson Air Force Base Chapel]

AND THE EVENING WE HAVE PASTOR T AB BELLOS OF THE WRIGHT PATTERSON AIR FORCE BASE CHAPEL.

AYE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

UM, SPEAKING IS NOT, UH, NEW TO ME.

I DON'T THINK SO, BUT COMING TO THIS MEETING IS SO, UH, PREPARED TO GIVE AN INVOCATION.

I HAVE KNOWN THAT PREVIOUSLY, YOU CAN HAVE OTHER WORDS, BUT I JUST LEFT A HOSPITAL VISITATION AND MY NOTES AND ALL THAT ARE AT HOME.

SO YOU WILL GET AN INVOCATION AND I SHALL BE LEAVING .

ALL RIGHT.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE BOW WITH ME.

LORD OF ALL CREATION.

WE COME TODAY TO HONOR YOU AND TO REMIND OURSELVES OF YOUR PIVOTAL PLACE IN OUR LIVES.

WE ASK FOR YOUR BLESSINGS ON THIS MEETING.

WE ASK THAT YOUR WISDOM WOULD GUIDE US AS WE SEEK TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS OF TODAY'S AGENDA.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES YOU GIVE US TO SERVE YOU AND TO SERVE OTHERS.

MAY OUR ACTIONS AND OUR ATTITUDES PLEASE YOU THIS DAY.

WE PRAY THESE THINGS IN YOUR MIGHTY NAME.

[3. Pledge Of Allegiance]

PANCE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD AND IVIS WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

TONY, WOULD YOU CALL

[4. Roll Call]

THE ROLL PLEASE? MR. SHAW? HERE.

UH, MR. LYONS IS NOT HERE THIS EVENING, AND, UH, HE HAS NOT SENT ANYONE A MESSAGE, UH, REQUESTING TO EXCUSE HIS ABSENCE.

SO, IS THERE, UM, IS THERE A MOTION AHEAD? MAKE A MOTION TO EXCUSE THERE A SECOND.

NO SECOND TO EXCUSE.

SO, MR. LYON'S, ABSENCE IS NOT EXCUSED THIS EVENING.

THAT I WOULD LIKE TO READ, UH, FOR EVERYONE HERE THIS EVENING AND ANYONE WHO IS, UH, WATCHING FROM HOME.

BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO OUR APPROVAL OF MINUTES, UH, THERE IS A STATEMENT

[6. Special Presentations/Announcements]

AND, UH, IT'S IN REGARDING THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN LAST WEEK BY THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER AND OUR POLICE CHIEF.

SO, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS EVERYONE REGARDING THE PRESENTATION, GIVEN THAT THE LAST WORK SESSION BY THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER AND THE POLICE CHIEF ABOUT THE DATA THAT WAS PRESENTED.

THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT ARE CONSIDERED WHEN MAKING DECISIONS THAT AFFECT THE PUBLIC SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THE DATA THAT WAS PRESENTED LAST TUESDAY IS, BUT ONE OF THOSE FACTORS, I WANNA ASSURE EVERYONE THAT MORE DISCUSSIONS WILL BE TAKING PLACE BETWEEN THIS COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGEMENT TO DETERMINE WHAT OUR BEST COURSE OF ACTION IS, TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL OF THE RESOURCES NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN PUBLIC SAFETY AT THE HIGHEST AND MOST EFFICIENT LEVELS POSSIBLE.

SECONDLY, I WANNA REITERATE THAT ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THIS COUNCIL SELECTED MR. Z AS OUR NEXT CITY MANAGER IS BECAUSE OF HIS VAST EXPERIENCE AS A PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTOR AND WITH DISPATCH CENTERS.

IT'LL BE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO HAVE MR. ZICK INVOLVED IN ANY DISCUSSIONS MOVING FORWARD THAT INVOLVES THE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR POLICE FORCE, AND I KNOW HE LOOKS FORWARD TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND PROVIDING HIS INPUT IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET SEASON.

LASTLY, I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS THAT I HAVE BEEN A VERY PRO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MAYOR OVER THE PAST FIVE AND A HALF YEARS, AND IT SHOULD GO WITHOUT SAYING THAT.

I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT IN ORDER FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH IN BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL SECTORS, TO NOT ONLY BE VIBRANT BUT SUSTAINABLE PUBLIC SAFETY HAS TO CONTINUE BEING THE BEST IN THE REGION AS IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

NEW BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS SIMPLY WILL NOT LOCATE HERE IF THEY DON'T BELIEVE PUBLIC SAFETY IS A TOP PRIORITY.

AND I'M HERE TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT IT IS.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER LEGISLATIVELY AS A COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS HUBER HEIGHTS IS SAFE AND A PLACE THEY CAN FIND COMFORT AT HOME, AT WORK, AND WHILE BEING INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY EVENTS.

NEXT ITEM NUMBER FIVE,

[ City Council Meeting Minutes - August 21, 2023]

APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

ITEM FIVE A IS CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM AUGUST 21ST, 2023.

THOSE MINUTES HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

OKAY, THOSE MINUTES WILL STAND AS APPROVED.

NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER SIX, SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.

TONY THIRD.

NONE THIS EVENING, MAYOR.

IN TODAY'S DAY AND AGE, MENTAL HEALTH IS A HOT TO TOPIC ITEM AND OUR RESPONSE ON HOW WE DEAL WITH THESE PERSONS WITH MENTAL I ILLNESSES CHANGED SOCIETY NOW EXPECTS US TO BE MENTAL HEALTH EXPERTS WITHOUT THE APPROPRIATE DEGREE OR EXPERTISE.

NEXT UP IS OUR NUMBER SEVEN

[7. Citizens Comments]

CITIZENS COMMENTS.

UH, YES, WE HAVE TWO THIS EVENING.

THE FIRST WOULD BE, UH, MR. DOG BEHRINGER.

IF YOU'D PLEASE COME TO THE

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PODIUM.

UH, COUNCILMAN AND WOMEN? MY NAME IS DOUGLAS J BEHRINGER.

I'M GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE FRATERNAL ORDER, PLEASE, OHIO LABOR COUNCIL, WHICH REPRESENTS THE HUBER HEIGHTS F O P LODGE 1 61.

AND THIS STATEMENT IS ON THEIR BEHALF.

USUALLY THE UNION STAYS IN THE BACKGROUND REPRESENTING YOUR POLICE OFFICERS.

WHILE MOST PEOPLE IN THE CITY WOULD NOT EVEN KNOW WE EXISTED THIS, HOWEVER NEEDED, NEEDED TO CHANGE THIS EVENING TO ADDRESS WHAT OUR MEMBERSHIP FEELS IS A COM, A COMPLETE LACK OF SUPPORT FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS WORKING IN THE CITY.

OUR MEMBERS HAVE BEEN WATCHING YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, WHETHER IN PERSON OR VIA VIDEO.

AND THE TIME FOR US TO VOICE OUR CONCERNS IS NOW, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT COULD BE DISCUSSED, I WILL KEEP IT BRIEF AND ONLY TOUCH UPON WHAT WE FEEL IS THE MOST SERIOUS I HAVE WITH ME.

THE 2002 STUDY CONDUCTED BY THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION'S CHIEFS OF POLICE FOR THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IN 2002, THE CITY AUTHORIZED AND STAFFED 52 SWORN OFFICERS FROM THE CHIEF ON DOWN.

IN THAT SAME STUDY, THEY PROPOSED STAFFING LEVELS OF 63 SWORN POLICE OFFICERS FROM THE TOP DOWN.

THAT WAS IN 2002.

CURRENTLY, WE ARE AUTHORIZED 55 SWORN ALL EMPLOYEES IN THE MOST RECENT CITY, THE CITY RE MOST RECENT CENSUS, THE CITY HAD A POPULATION OF JUST OVER 43,000 RESIDENTS AT THE TIME OF THE 2002 STUDY THAT THE POPULATION OF WAS JUST OVER 38,000.

I DO NOT THINK ANYONE HERE TODAY CAN ARGUE THAT IN THE PAST 21 YEARS, THE CITY HAS NOT GROWN FROM BOTH A BUSINESS AND A RESIDENTIAL STANDPOINT.

SO WHY HASN'T THE POLICE SERVICES FOLLOWED SUIT? IN ADDITION TO THE BUSINESS GROWTH AT THE SHOPPING CENTERS, WE HAVE CONSTRUCTED A VERY NICE OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE.

NO ONE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW NICE THE ROSE IS.

HOWEVER, SIX MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR, IT CAN TAKE ANYWHERE FROM FOUR TO SIX OFFICERS TO STAFF THE SECURITY DETAIL.

THIS IS OFTEN EQUAL TO OR MORE THAN THE MINIMUM ROAD PATROL COVERAGE AT ANY GIVEN TIME CITYWIDE.

THERE HAVE ALSO BEEN CERTAIN CONCERTS WHERE EIGHT MEMBERS HAVE WORKED AT THE ROWS, WHICH EXCEEDS THE COVERAGE PROVIDED FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.

WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU AT THE WORK SESSION REGARDING PART ONE CRIMES.

HOWEVER, THIS DOES NOT PAINT THE FULL PICTURE OF OF OUR MEMBERS DAY IN AND DAY OUT WORKLOAD.

OUR CALLS FOR SERVICES ARE NOT LISTED IN THE PART ONE CRIME THAT STILL REQUIRE A TWO OFFICER RESPONSE ARE NUMEROUS ALARMS, DISTURBANCES, DISORDERLY CONDUCT, SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCE, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THEFT, SERIOUS CRASHES, JUST TO NAME A FEW.

THESE CALLS FOR SERVICES ARE SOME OF THE MOST COMMON.

THIS MEANS THAT DEPENDING ON THE SHIFT, 40 TO 50% OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS WOULD BE UNAVAILABLE FOR OTHER ROUTINE CALLS FOR SERVICE WHEN THEY ARE ALWAYS AT MINIMUM STAFFING.

THESE CALLS ALL VARY IN THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT WOULD TAKE FOR TWO OFFICERS TO FINISH AND CLEAR THE CALL WHILE ALARM CAN BE CLEARED QUICKLY, IF IT'S FOUND TO BE A FALSE ALARM, SOMETHING LIKE A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALL WILL ROUTINELY TAKE THOSE OFFERS OVER AN HOUR TO COMPLETE BETWEEN INTERVIEWING THE PEOPLE, DETERMINING IF THERE'S AN OFFENSE, COMPLETING NECESSARY PAPERWORK AT THE SCENE, JAIL, TRANSPORTATION, THEN A REPORT.

THIS IS SUBSTANTIAL WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT 40 TO 50% OF THE MANPOWER STATISTICS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY.

I KNOW A COMMENT WAS MADE ABOUT CALLS FOR SERVICE BEING UP AND THAT EXPLANATION ABOUT PEOPLE CALLING IN ABOUT TRASH PICKUP WAS PARTIALLY BLAMED FOR THESE NUMBERS.

I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT A CALL FOR SERVICE IS NOT GENERATED UNLESS AN OFFICER MUST RESPOND TO HANDLE A CALL.

ROUTINE CALLS LIKE TRASH SERVICE QUESTIONS ARE DONE BY DISPATCH AND NEVER MAKE IT TO THE POINT OF AN OFFICER BEING CALLED FOR SERVICE.

WE DO AGREE WITH CHIEF LIGHTNER THAT WE PRIDE OURSELVES IN NOT ORDERING OUR MEMBERS INTO WORK ON THEIR DAYS OFF, BUT THIS MEANS THAT OFFICERS THAT ARE NOT, THAT ARE WORKING ARE EITHER STAYING OVER ON THEIR SHIFT OR COMING IN FOUR HOURS EARLY.

WHILE THIS DOES NOT SEEM LIKE A BIG DEAL AT FACE VALUE, WHEN MEMBERS ARE WORKING OVERTIME, SEVERAL TIMES THROUGHOUT A WORK ROTATION BEGINS TO TAKE A TOLL.

OUR MEMBERSHIP SHOULD NOT HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION TO EITHER BE A POLICE OFFICER OR A PARENT COACH OR TEACHER.

BY THIS I MEAN THAT OFTEN MEMBERS ARE PICKING UP OVERTIME THAT THEY DO NOT WANT TO PREVENT FROM BEING CALLED IN OR ORDERED IN ON DAYS THAT THEY HAVE A SERIOUS CONFLICT WITH THEIR PERSONAL SCHEDULE OUTSIDE OF WORK.

BASICALLY PICKING THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS THAT TAKES A TOLL ON THE MEMBERSHIP BOTH HERE AND WITH THEIR PERFORMANCE AND IN THEIR HOME LIFE.

WHEN YOU WORK THREE OR FOUR DAYS OR MORE OF OVERTIME THROUGHOUT YOUR ROTATION, YOU CAN'T HELP BUT FEEL WORN OUT.

THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THE OFFICERS NEED THAT TIME IN BETWEEN CALLS TO DECOMPRESS AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT CALL TO COME IN.

SPEAKING OF THESE CALLS FOR SERVICE, THEY HAVE CHANGED QUITE A BIT AS WELL IN TODAY'S,

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SO MUCH SO THAT INITIATIVE WAS SENT ON IN MOTION TO HAVE EVERY SWORN OFFICER ATTAIN A C I T CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM TRAINING FOR A WEEK DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

THESE, THIS TRAINING WAS DESIGNED TO ASSIST OFFICERS IN DEALING WITH PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES WHILE THIS INITIATIVE WAS NEEDED.

IT FURTHER SHOWS THAT MORE TIME IS SPENT DEALING WITH THESE SITUATIONS.

THE STATE OF IOWA'S ALSO MANTA MANDATED ONLINE TRAINING FOR ALL SWORN PERSONNEL ON VARIOUS TOPICS.

THESE TRAINING SESSIONS CAN TAKE UP TO TWO TO THREE HOURS OF TIME TO COMPLETE EACH MONTH.

THESE TWO TO THREE HOURS MAY NOT SEEM LIKE MUCH, BUT WHEN OUR MEMBERS HAVE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS DURING REGULAR DUTY HOURS, IT BECOMES A BIT HECTIC.

THEY MAY START THE TRAINING, THEY HAVE TO PAUSE THE TRAINING AND DEAL WITH THE CALL FOR SERVICE ONCE AVAILABLE AGAIN, THEY NEED TO FIND AN APPROPRIATE PLACE TO PARK, TRY TO RESUME THE TRAINING UNTIL THE NEXT CALL COMES IN AND THE PROCESS REPEATS ITSELF OVER AND OVER.

TIME SPENT DOING THIS IS NOT TIME SPENT PROACTIVE POLICING.

WE HAVE A NEW REPORTING SYSTEM, WHICH TO PUT IT NICELY, HAS NOT BEEN WELL RECEIVED.

THE IMPLEMENTATION WENT LIVE ON DECEMBER 13TH, 2022, AND IS STILL NOT OPERATIONAL TO THE STANDARDS THAT WE FEEL IS ADEQUATE.

EVERYONE BEHIND ME HERE TONIGHT COULD TELL YOU A STORY AFTER STORY ON HOW MUCH LONGER IT TAKES TO DO EVEN THE SIMPLEST REPORTS WITH THE CURRENT SYSTEM.

THIS, AGAIN, TAKES AWAY FROM DOING PROACTIVE POLICE WORK.

HERE AGAIN, WE ARE NOT STATING THAT THESE ARE THE ONLY ISSUES OR THE OUR REASONING BEHIND CERTAIN QUESTIONS ASKED ARE DEFINITIVE, BUT WE NEED YOU AS A CITY TO KNOW THAT PURE NUMBERS DO NOT PAINT THE FULL PICTURE.

THESE ISSUES ARE NOT ONLY A MATTER OF PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT OF OFFICER, OFFICER SAFETY.

I'M SURE YOU WOULD ALL AGREE THAT THESE ARE BOTH PRIORITIES FOR THE CITY CITIZENS OF SCHUBERT HEIGHTS AS WELL AS THEY GO HAND IN HAND.

THAT BEING SAID, AS THE CITY CONTINUES TO GROW, ARE, WERE YOU READY TO GROW WITH IT? THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

APPRECIATE YOU SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE F O P.

ROAD AND HUGE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS AND LIKE IT OR NOT, AN INCREASE IN CRIME.

NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, CITIZENS REGISTER TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS. UH, WE HAD ONE MORE IN CITIZENS' COMMENTS.

UH, MR. JEFF MULFORD.

GOOD EVENING.

JEFF MORFORD, BETHEL TOWNSHIP, MIAMI COUNTY TO CURRENT AND FUTURE HUBER HEIGHTS.

CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE RESIDENTS OF HUBER HEIGHTS AND THE RESIDENTS OF BETHEL TOWNSHIP ANNEXATION.

THERE'S BEEN MANY ANNEXATIONS THROUGHOUT OHIO THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THE COMMUNITY LEADERS, WHICH HAVE BEEN MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL TO BOTH COMMUNITIES.

THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE.

IN A FEW INSTANCES, THE CITY LEADERS SAW THE ANNEXATION IN A SUBSEQUENT DEVELOPMENT AS A PROBLEM TO BOTH COMMUNITIES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDERLINE AND VOTED NO TO THE ANNEXATION REQUEST.

THEN THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW INSTANCES THAT WHEN THE CITY LEADERS VOTED YES TO THE ANNEXATION, BUT THE CITIZENS FROM BOTH COMMUNITIES BELIEVE ANNEXATION AND BUILDING OF HIGH DENSITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF EITHER COMMUNITY FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

THE CITIZENS COME TOGETHER AND CIRCULATE A REFERENDUM PETITION IF SUCCESSFUL THEN TO THE BALLOT WHERE THE VOTERS WILL DECIDE OF THE HUNDREDS OF VOTES THE CITY COUNCIL CASTS A VERY SMALL NUMBER ARE OBJECTED TO OR CHALLENGED USING A REFERENDUM.

BUT THE CITIZENS GO THROUGH THE HIGHLY DIFFICULT PROCEDURE OF A REFERENDUM, SHOWS THAT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS MIGHT NOT BE IN TUNE WITH THE SENTIMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.

THE VOTE WILL TELL THE FAITH OF THE CITIZENS AND THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WILL ALSO BE EXAMINED.

IT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED THAT A LOT OF BETHEL RESIDENTS AND OPPOSITION TO THIS ANNEXATION SHOW UP TO THESE MEETINGS TO PROTEST.

BUT WHERE ARE THE HUBER HEIGHTS RESIDENTS? AS I HAVE STATED BEFORE, THE COMPLICATIONS OR RESPONSIBILITIES OF LIFE RESTRICT MANY FROM ATTENDING.

I HAVE SUGGESTED BEFORE AND NOW REPEAT.

SEND OUT A SURVEY.

A SURVEY WILL BE A SIMPLE WAY TO ASK QUESTIONS AND GET ANSWERS.

TAKE THE INITIATIVE YOURSELF.

IT'S YOUR JOB TO DO ALL YOU CAN.

OR ARE YOU AFRAID WHAT THE RESULTS MIGHT BE.

REMEMBER, YOU ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO ARE TO REPRESENT YOUR CITIZENS.

ASK THE EVERYDAY CITIZEN HOW DO THEY FEEL? PLEASE DON'T LISTEN ONLY TO THE DEVELOPERS AND BELIEVE THE DEVELOPMENT IS THE ANSWER TO ALL YOUR FINANCIAL WOES.

AND THE POT OF GOLD IS AT THE END OF THE RAINBOW PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPERS.

IF THE HUBER HEIGHTS COMMUNITY WANTS TO GROW, PLEASE DO IT WITHIN YOUR BOUNDARIES, WITHIN YOUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, WITHIN YOUR CITY, WATER AND SEWAGE SYSTEM.

DON'T LOOK TO OUR COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT YOUR UNTETHERED, RUNAWAY, AND UNCONTROLLED EXPANSION.

WE HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS OF OUR OWN ANNEXATION, EXPANSION, BUILDING.

INCREASED POPULATION IS NOT ALL AS TOUTED TO BE.

THERE ARE SERVICES THAT ARE REQUIRED, WATER, SEWAGE, ROAD SCHOOL, FIRE, POLICE, ALL COSTING MONEY AND TIME.

AND SADLY, INCREASED POPULATION CAUSES

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AS TO THE RATIONALE, THE BETHEL SCHOOLS HAVE RECEIVED TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS AND INTO THE FUTURE IS TRUE.

NOW, IF THAT MONEY CAME IN THE FORM OF A WINDFALL, LIKE A PAST FINANCIALLY SUCCESSFUL ALUMNI, GIFTING THE SCHOOL OR GIFT OF A LARGE WINNING LOTTO TICKET OR THE OIL BEING DISCOVERED ON THE SCHOOL GROUNDS WOULD BE A POSITIVE STORY.

BUT PLEASE REMEMBER, THE ONLY REASON THAT BETHEL RECEIVED A LARGE PORTION OF THIS MONEY IS BECAUSE OF THE EXPLODED BETHEL STUDENT POPULATION FROM THE CARRIAGE TRAILS, HUBER HEIGHTS DEVELOPMENT.

IF YOU TOOK THE TIME TO TALK TO THE RESIDENTS OF BETHEL TOWNSHIP, PARTICULARLY THE RESIDENTS WITH SCHOOL CHILDREN, I'M QUITE SURE THEY WOULD SAY THE MONEY GENERATED BY THE STUDENT POPULATION INCREASE FROM CARRIAGE TRAIL IS NOT WORTH THE OVERALL PROBLEMS. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS, TOWNSHIPS, CITIES, COUNTIES, STATES, ALL HAVE FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS.

BUT WE LIVE WITHIN OUR BUDGET.

IF HUBBER HEIGHTS HAS FINANCIAL PROBLEMS, TRAFFIC PROBLEMS, WATER, SEWAGE PROBLEMS, SCHOOL PROBLEMS, IT IS OF YOUR OWN MAKING AND YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, PLEASE DON'T LOOK TO OUR NEIGHBOR, TO YOUR NEIGHBORS IN BETHEL TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO PAY YOUR BILLS OR COVER YOUR STUDENT LOAD PROBLEMS OR WATER AND SEWAGE RESPONSIBILITIES.

WE HAVE ENOUGH PAY TROUBLE PAYING OUR OWN BILLS AND BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR CITIZENS.

ANNEXATION.

THE DEVELOPMENT OF A THOUSAND HOUSES AND THE ASSOCIATED REVENUE ALL SOUNDS GOOD, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE MONEY WILL BE USED ON PAST PROBLEMS AND 40 OR 50 YEARS FROM NOW, THE CITY WILL BE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO OFFSET THE PROBLEMS OCCURRED BY THIS MISTAKE.

PLEASE BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND VOTE NO TO A SERVICE AGREEMENT.

PLEASE BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND VOTE NO TO ANNEXATION.

AS ALWAYS, I LEAVE YOU WITH A GOLDEN RULE, DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.

OKAY, YOU HAVE ANY ELSE? UM, WE WE'RE HANDED ONE AFTER THE MEETING STARTED, BUT WE'LL LET YOU COME IN AND TALK.

UM, RHONDA SUMLIN.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR GORE AND CITY COUNCIL.

UM, I HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY NUMEROUS PEOPLE REGARDING A VACANCY ON H H C D C A C, WHICH IS HUBER HEIGHTS CULTURE AND DIVERSITY SYSTEMS ACTIONS COMMISSION.

UM, AND I'D LIKE TO ASK WHOSE SPOT IS BEING FILLED YOUR SPOT? OKAY.

UM, I'M KIND OF CONFUSED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE TO THIS DATE I HAVE NOT GIVEN A WRITTEN RESIGNATION.

UM, NO ONE HAS ASKED ME ABOUT MY PLAN TO RETURN TO HUBER HEIGHTS, AND I DO RECALL A PREVIOUS MEMBER OF COUNCIL SITTING IN HIS SEAT FOR MONTHS UNTIL HE WAS FINALLY FORCED TO RESIGN.

SO I'M ASSUMING THAT HE WAS GIVEN TIME TO FIGURE OUT HIS SITUATION.

UM, SO BECAUSE I WAS CONFUSED, I DID LOOK AT THE CHARTER AND IT DOES SAY THAT ACCORDING TO CHARTER SECTION 9 0 7, IT TAKES SIX MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO REMOVE A BOARD COMMISSION MEMBER FROM THEIR SEAT.

SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK WHICH SIX OF YOU VOTED TO REMOVE ME FROM MY SEAT? OKAY.

UM, SO THE ONLY WAY THAT THERE WILL BE A VAC VACANCY IS IF SOMEONE RESIGNED FROM THEIR SEAT.

UNTIL THIS POINT, I HAVE NOT DONE SO.

SO I GUESS I'M CONFUSED ABOUT WHY MY SEAT IS BEING ADVERTISED AS VACANT AND NO MEMBERS OF MY COMMISSION WERE EVEN AWARE.

SO THEIR FIRST TIME SEEING IT WAS ON FACEBOOK.

I GUESS THERE WAS A FACEBOOK POST.

NOT THAT I, NOT THAT, I MEAN, I WOULD'VE PUT A FACEBOOK POST OUT FOR ANY BORDER COMMISSION VACANCY.

SO, UH, YOU AND I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THE DETAILS WE WANT GO INTO HERE, UM, BUT UH, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATELY IN ANOTHER FORUM TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

BUT, UH, I WAS NOTIFIED BY MS. SUMLIN THAT SHE HAD MOVED OUT OF THE CITY, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT FOR, UH, MAINTAINING.

WE HAD DISCUSSED YOU SERVING IN ANOTHER CAPACITY, UH, WITH THE CULTURAL AND DIVERSITY COMMISSION THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO DO SO AS A NON-RESIDENT, WHICH I THOUGHT WE WERE CLEAR ON THAT.

I I THOUGHT WE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE WHEN WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION.

AND, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER POINTS OF HOW YOU COULD SERVE.

UM, I HAD A CONVERSATION AS RECENTLY AS THIS AFTERNOON WITH OUR LAW DIRECTOR, MR. MONTGOMERY, UH, TO DISCUSS, UH, THE FINDER POINTS OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT SPECIFIED AS YOU REFER TO IN THE CHARTER.

AND, UM, BUT THAT WOULD NOT BE ABOUT YOUR ABILITY TO MAINTAIN THE SEAT BEING A NON-RESIDENT.

IT WOULD BE ABOUT THE OTHER WAYS YOU COULD SERVE AS AN EX-OFFICIO MEMBER, UH, WHICH YOU AND I HAD HAD THAT DISCUSSION.

SO, UM, MR. MONTGOMERY HAS PLANNED TO, UH, I THINK THIS WEEK HAVE A, A WRITTEN OPINION TO ME ON THOSE ISSUES

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AND, UH, WHEN THAT'S AVAILABLE.

UM, AS I TOLD HIM THIS AFTERNOON, I WOULD SHARE THAT WITH COUNSEL AND, AND WITH YOU AS WELL.

MY CON, MY ONLY CONCERN, AND THIS MAY BE FOR SOMEONE ELSE RATHER THAN MYSELF, THAT BEFORE A VACANCY IS POSTED, UM, ESPECIALLY FOR ME AND MY POSITION AS CHAIR, I'M SURE YOU CAN IMAGINE THE EFFECT THAT, THAT HAD ON THE COMMISSION WHEN THEY NOTICED THAT I WAS NO LONGER A PART OF THE COMMISSION BY LOOKING AT THE WEBSITE.

UM, SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT BEFORE THOSE TYPES OF VACANCIES OR POSTED THAT IT LEAST GIVE THE CHAIR OR WHOEVER THE PERSON IS THAT'S RESIGNING, LET THEM DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE TO SPEAK TO THEIR BOARD MEMBERS OR COMMISSION MEMBERS, ESPECIALLY SITTING IN THE SEAT OF A CHAIR.

YOU KNOW, OUR COMMISSION IS VERY ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, AND A LOT OF US WORK FULL-TIME JOBS THAT ARE VERY STRENUOUS JOBS, SOME OUT OF THE CITY.

SO THAT WAS A SHOCK TO THEM TO FIND OUT THAT THERE WAS A VACANCY.

AND NO ONE, THEY KNEW IT WAS ME 'CAUSE MY NAME WASN'T THERE.

AND TO THIS DATE, I HAD NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT ME SERVING IN AN EX OFFICIO POSITION AS CHAIR.

THERE HAD BEEN NO COMMUNICATION.

AND WE HAVE A MEETING COMING UP SEPTEMBER THE SEVENTH.

AND I KNOW YOU TOLD ME, TONY, THAT I COULDN'T CHAIR THAT MEETING BECAUSE I'M TECHNICALLY NOT ON THE COMMISSION.

AND I THOUGHT WE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE WHEN WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION.

I DIDN'T THINK THAT I WAS DOING ANYTHING OUTTA TURN.

'CAUSE YOU HAD NOTIFIED ME THAT YOU WERE NO LONGER A RESIDENT, WHICH IS A CHARTER QUALIFICATION FOR MEMBERSHIP ON ANY CITY BOARD OR COMMISSION.

SO WE'LL GET THE CLARIFICATION FROM MR. MONTGOMERY, UH, FROM A LEGAL THING.

AS SOON AS I HAVE THAT, I WILL SHARE THAT WITH COUNSEL AND WITH YOU, AND THEN THAT WILL SET THE PATH FORWARD INTO, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU CAN DO AS AN EX OFFICIO CAPACITY, BUT YOU CAN'T SHARE THE MEETING WHEN YOU'RE NO LONGER RESIDENT OF THE CITY.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION ALSO IS IN THE CHARTER, DOES IT SPECIFICALLY SAY, BECAUSE ON THE APPLICATION IT SAYS YOU HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY FOR A YEAR, WHICH I WAS, MY COMMISSION TERM EXPIRES IN DECEMBER.

THE LANGUAGE IS VERY AMBIGUOUS, AS IS A LOT OF POLICIES AND LANGUAGE THAT I, AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS.

IF IT'S LEFT TO INTERPRETATION AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE INTERPRET IT DIFFERENTLY, I INTERPRET THAT AS I'M A RESIDENT OF THE CITY WHEN I APPLY AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION.

BUT IF IT DOESN'T STATE THAT I NEED TO REMAIN A RESIDENT FOR THE TERM OF MY COMMISSION, THEN MAYBE THAT'S LANGUAGE THAT YOU ALL NEED TO CONSIDER.

WELL, DAVE, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT, UH, CHARTER DOES SPEAK TO, UH, BEING AN ELECTOR, WHICH REQUIRES THAT YOU BE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY AS, AS A REQUIREMENT IN THE CITY CHARTER.

SO JUST, JUST MY THOUGHTS.

ALSO, I WANT TO CLEARLY STATE THE REASON FOR MY RELOCATION BECAUSE I HEARD THERE'S RUMOR, BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHY I, WHY I LEFT THE CITY.

MY FAMILY AND I WERE ACTUALLY FORCED TO LEAVE THE CITY.

UM, WE WERE FORCED TO LEAVE OUR HOME OF SEVEN YEARS BECAUSE MY PRIVATE OWNER RETIRED AND SOLD THE PROPERTY TO A REAL ESTATE INVESTOR WHO ASSURED ME THAT SHE WAS NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING BUT OWNERSHIP.

AND AS SOON AS SHE GOT OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY, SHE FORCED US OUT $6,000 LATER WITH A HIGH ATTORNEY BILL BECAUSE I HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RIGHTS WERE NOT BEING VIOLATED.

AND THEY WERE, I'M OUT OF MY CONDO NO LONGER LIVING IN THE CITY THAT I LOVE, AND SHE'S HAD THE PROPERTY ON THE MARKET FOR RENT FOR 30 DAYS.

NOBODY'S LIVING THERE.

SO I BRING THIS UP TO SAY THESE ARE THE TYPES OF SYSTEMIC ISSUES THAT MY COMMISSION LOOKS AT ALL THE TIME.

PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS IN THESE TYPES OF SITUATIONS.

WHEN SOMEONE IS DISPLACED, FORCED OUT OF THEIR HOUSING AND THEY'RE IN A PUBLIC OFFICE, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CLEAR LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER THAT STATES IN THIS SITUATION, WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN.

BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE NEVER CHOSEN TO LEAVE THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, EVER.

I LOVE IT HERE, AND I THINK YOU ALL KNOW THAT, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE.

MAYOR.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

MRS. SUMLIN, CAN YOU TELL US WHEN YOU MOVED FROM THE CITY? JUNE.

JUNE.

SO THE FIRST OR 30TH? FIRST, THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CHOICE OF PERMISSION HONOR.

OKAY, THANK YOU,

[8. Citizens Registered To Speak On Agenda Items]

MAYOR.

I HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT, PLEASE.

UM, BEFORE THIS MEETING, YOU HAD A, UH, PUBLIC STATEMENT REGARDING PUBLIC SAFETY.

TO ANSWER THE REMAINING QUESTIONS FROM THE LAST CONVERSATION IN ADDITION TO THE NEARLY $400,000 OF REPORTED OVERTIME LAST YEAR, AND HOW WE CON CURB THAT AND ASSIST OUR MEN AND WOMEN OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IN, IN THE FUTURE.

AND, UH, THE, UM, CONTINUING CONVERSATION THAT THIS COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE.

IT IS MY HOPE THAT AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION THAT, UH, THE CONVERSATION CONTINUES ALONG WITH THE PRESENCE OF THE POLICE CHIEF

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I MEAN, RICHARD, I CERTAINLY HAVE NO ISSUES HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS, BUT I THINK WE HAVE A NEW CITY MANAGER COMING IN WITH VAST PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, EXPERIENCE.

AND I THINK, I THINK HE NEEDS TO BE PART OF THAT.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION WILL BE, AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM ADDING THOSE DISCUSSIONS ON THE WORK SESSION AFTER, UH, THE 11TH OF SEPTEMBER, ONCE, ONCE THE NEW CITY MANAGER TAKES, TAKES OFFICE.

MR. MAYOR, I, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, BUT I, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, WILL HAVE TO SAY I DISAGREE WITH THAT.

AND IF I NEED TO HAVE TWO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS COMPEL THAT TO BE ON THE WORK SESSION, THEN SO BE IT.

UM, THIS IS CONVERSATION THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME, UH, THAT I REQUESTED TO BE ON AN AGENDA.

I WAS ASKED BY, UH, INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE IT REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA AND THEN PUT BACK ON THE AGENDA SO WE COULD HAVE THIS, THIS CONVERSATION.

UM, YOU YOURSELF HAD A TOWN HALL, UH, IN SUGGESTION OF ADDITION, ADDITIONAL SUPPORT, UH, FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

UH, AND SINCE THAT TOWN HALL, THERE HAS BEEN NO CHANGES TO DATE TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

UM, WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION AND, UH, AND WE NEED TO DO IT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

UM, SO MAYOR, IF, UH, PLEASE LET ME KNOW HERE AND NOW IF I NEED TO HAVE TWO OTHER MEMBERS, UH, COMPEL THAT.

TO BE INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSIONS.

'CAUSE I, I MEAN, I, IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITHOUT THE PERSON WHO'S GONNA BE RUNNING THE CITY.

I MEAN, THANK YOU.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE THANK YOU, MAYOR, HOW THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

AND I JUST WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, RICHARD, SO I DON'T, I FEEL LIKE I'M GETTING THE BLAME HERE A LITTLE BIT FOR NOT HAVING SOMETHING ON AN AGENDA.

AND I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS.

SO FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS, ACTUALLY PROBABLY SINCE DECEMBER OF 2022, WE'VE HAD HALF OF THIS COUNCIL DO NOTHING BUT FOCUS ON OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND I'M GLAD WE'VE GOT OUR, OUR HIRING UP ON OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

BUT HALF THIS COUNCIL HAS COMPELLED THE IDEA TO PUT THAT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IN SUCH A MANNER WHERE WE HAD TO HAVE WEEKLY FIREFIGHTER UPDATES RAN OUT HERE TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE OF WHERE WE WERE AT, WHO WAS IN THE PROCESS, WHO WE WERE HIRING, WHERE THEY WERE AT IN THE PROCESS.

BUT NOT ONE TIME DID THE OTHER HALF OF THE COUNCIL COMPEL TO PUT THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA UNTIL NOW.

SO, YES, WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT.

WE HAD A TOWN HALL AND I DID RECOMMEND HIRING THREE ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS THAT WE COULD HAVE A TRAFFIC CONTROL UNIT.

AND WE GOT A DIFFERENT OPINION FROM THE CHIEF AND DIFFERENT OPINION FROM THE CITY MANAGER AT THAT TIME.

SO OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST SIX MONTHS, A YEAR WHEN THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON NOTHING BUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AT THE WHIM OF MR. LYON, WHO NOW IS NOT HERE, WHEN THE F O P COMES TO TO BE UPSET, WHICH THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE, AND MR. LYON HAS DECIDED NOT TO SHOW UP THIS EVENING, NOT ONE TIME DID ANYBODY ELSE COMPEL ME TO PUT ANY ADDITIONAL ITEM ABOUT HIRING POLICE OFFICERS ON AN AGENDA.

NOW WHEN IT MAKES SENSE TO DO THAT, WE'VE HIRED A NEW CITY MANAGER WHO HAS A TON OF EXPERIENCE IN WORKING IN PUBLIC SAFETY.

HE'S GONNA COME HERE WILLING TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, AND NOW IT'S AN EMERGENCY FROM YOU AND YOU WANNA PUT IT ON THE AGENDA WHEN THE NEXT CITY MANAGER WON'T EVEN BE PART OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

THAT MAKES ZERO SENSE.

BUT IF THE REST OF YOU AGREE AND WANNA PUT IT ON THERE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITHOUT OUR NEW CITY MANAGER, THEN SO BE IT.

WE'LL HAVE IT.

MAYOR, IF I MAY, UH, UM, TAKE A MOMENT TO REBUT SOME OF THAT.

UM, THIS CONVERSATION IS NOT NEW.

UM, I, I KNOW JUST AS, UH, I BELIEVE THE END OF LAST YEAR, BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, UM, ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS AND SUPPORT FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT WAS A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION INSIDE THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

UM, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL EMAILS GOING BACK AND FORTH SHOWING THAT AT NO WAY POINT IN TIME AM I, AM I SHIFTING BLAME TO YOU AT ANY POINT IN TIME? HOWEVER, YOU ARE THE MAYOR AND YOU ARE THE CHAIR.

UM, YOU DID INITIATE A CONVERSATION AT A TOWN HALL.

UM, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I HAVE SUPPORTED YOU PERSONALLY AND PUBLICLY ON THE HIRING OF ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS AND A TRAFFIC CONTROL UNIT.

UM, SO I'M NOT SHIFTING BLAME, I'M JUST SAYING WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE NEW CITY MANAGER, UH, MR. ZEKE IS, IS NOT QUALIFIED OR IS OVERQUALIFIED TO HANDLE THIS CONVERSATION.

ALL I'M SAYING IS WE NEED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION, WE NEED TO HAVE THE DATA, WE NEED TO HAVE THE DIALOGUE.

AND I FIND IT VERY UNFORTUNATE WHEN I, I HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR POLICE CHIEF AND I EXPECT TO GET THAT INFORMATION BACK.

I GET THE OVERTIME NUMBERS BACK, WHICH WAS, IN MY OPINION, ASTRONOMICAL.

BUT I DIDN'T GET THE OTHER PIECES BACK.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR THAT CONTINUING DIALOGUE.

RICHARD, I ASSURE YOU I WANT TO HAVE THAT CONTINUING DIALOGUE.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE HAD, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE HAD WITH THE NEXT LEADER OF THE CITY.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S MY OPINION.

I I, I DON'T, BUT AGAIN, IF, IF ALL YOU GUYS WANNA PUT ON THE AGENDA AND TALK ABOUT IT WITHOUT THE NEXT CITY MANAGER HERE, THEN I GUESS WE WILL.

BUT THAT MAKES ZERO SENSE TO ME.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

YES, MARK MAYOR, I'M COMMITTED TO A PLAN AND FUNDING IN THE 2024 BUDGET, AND I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT OUR NEXT CITY MANAGER DOES NEED

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UM, WE'VE HAD PLENTY OF DISCUSSIONS AND I, I THINK THAT'S, UH, ONE REASON WE FIND OURSELF HERE TONIGHT.

UM, SO I, I ADVOCATE FOR A PLAN AND FUNDING IN 2024.

SO DO I, AND WE ARE RIGHT ON THE HEELS OF THE 24 24 BUDGET DISCUSSIONS WHERE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WILL TAKE PLACE.

I JUST THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THE NEXT LEADER OF THE CITY INVOLVED IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

AND I KNOW HE IS ANXIOUS TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

NEED TO COME RIGHT BACK TO YOU.

MAYOR GORE, MAY I SIT DOWN? YES, PLEASE.

UM, I, DID I USE MY FULL FIVE MINUTES? YES.

IS I'M STILL STANDING HERE.

YES, BUT WHO'S COUNTING? YES.

ANITA.

I JUST WANNA REBUT ALSO.

'CAUSE I ASKED FOR IT TO BE ON AN AGENDA QUITE A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND I WAS TOLD IT WASN'T THE RIGHT TIME.

SO I DID ADVOCATE PRIOR TO, SO NANCY AND THEN GLENN, JESS.

FIRE, AND THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD, BUT THAT WASN'T TO SAY THAT FIRE WAS ANY MORE IMPORTANT OR LESS IMPORTANT THAN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UH, FOR MEN AND WOMEN IN BLUE THAT ARE IN HERE, I WANT TO SAY THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ANYBODY ON THIS COUNCIL THAT DOES NOT SUPPORT AND APPRECIATE YOU 100%.

WE HAVE ASKED AT EVERY BUDGET MEETING THAT WE HAVE HAD SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL IN 2016, IF ADDITIONAL MANPOWER REQUIREMENTS WERE NEEDED, WE HAVE NEVER TURNED DOWN A MANPOWER REQUEST FROM EITHER THE POLICE OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO IF THE CHIEF COMES TO US AND SAYS, I NEED PEOPLE, AND I HAVE ASKED, MANY OF US HAVE ASKED, DO WE NEED IT FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL? DO WE NEED IT FOR SOME OTHER REASON? AND WE'RE CONSTANTLY TOLD, NO, WE DON'T NEED TO INCREASE OUR MANPOWER, SO PLEASE DON'T BLAME US BECAUSE WE HAVE STOOD BEHIND YOU.

AND, AND I WOULD JUST SAY ONE, ONE THING, AND I THINK ANYBODY CAN GO BACK AND WATCH THE MEETING.

AND I'VE VOICED MY FRUSTRATION AT THE WAY THIS PROCESS PLAYED OUT, PITTING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT VERSUS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IT'S ALL PUBLIC RECORD, IT'S ALL IN THE MEETING.

I WAS EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED THAT MR. LYONS HAD BEEN ADVOCATING FOR NOTHING BUT FIREFIGHTERS ALL THAT TIME BEFORE WE EVEN HEARD A PRESENTATION FROM THE POLICE CHIEF REGARDING WHAT THE NUMBERS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE.

AND WE WERE OVERRULED BY THAT BECAUSE HALF THE COUNCIL DECIDED THEY WANTED THAT ON THE AGENDA.

AND THAT'S THE WAY THOSE DISCUSSIONS WENT.

IT'S ALL IN RECORD.

YOU CAN GO BACK AND WATCH ANY ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS.

WE'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR POLICE.

WE ASKED FOR POLICE, WE ASKED FOR PRESENTATIONS FROM EVERY DEPARTMENT MANAGER ABOUT WHAT POSITIONS THEY NEEDED, WHAT, UM, NEW EMPLOYEES THEY NEEDED FROM PLANNING AND ZONING TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND MR. LYONS WAS NOTHING BUT ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BEFORE.

AND I WAS VERY FRUSTRATED BY THAT BEFORE WE EVEN HAD THE OPPORTUNITY HERE FROM ANY OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS BEFORE WE HEARD FROM THE CHIEF BEFORE, BEFORE WE HEARD FROM MIKE GRAY, OUR PUBLIC WORKS MANAGER, AND BEFORE WE HEARD FROM ANYONE IN ZONING ABOUT ADDITIONAL MANPOWER NEEDS.

SO NOW HERE WE ARE, AND THAT'S THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE.

AND I AGREE, IT'S NOW TIME TO MAKE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHOLE.

NONE OF US UP HERE ARE AGAINST THAT.

BUT GOING INTO THE 2024 BUDGET SEASON, WE HAVE A NEW CITY LEADER THAT'S COMING ON BOARD.

WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

I FULLY ADVOCATE FOR A PLAN, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.

BUT WE NEED THE LEADER, THE, THE NEXT LEADER OF THE CITY, PART OF THIS CONVERSATIONS AND PART OF THAT BUDGET, NOT HAVE HIM WALK IN HERE WITH, HEY, THIS IS WHAT YOU BETTER DO.

THAT'S NOT THE WAY ANYBODY SHOULD WELCOME INTO THE CITY, ESPECIALLY MR. Z.

AND I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR HIM AND WHAT HE'S DONE, WHERE HE IS AT FROM PUBLIC SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, AND I HOPE ALL OF YOU WILL TOO.

ANYTHING ELSE, GLENN? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, FIRST I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH MR. SHAW'S COMMENTS.

THIS DOES NEED TO BE MOVED FORWARD, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO, UH, SUPPORT THAT AS A SECOND.

UM, SECOND, YOU MENTIONED, UH, THE FIGHT WE HAD WITH, UH, A ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

AND I THINK THAT'S, UH, A, A BIG PART OF THE PICTURE HERE.

IT TOOK A HUGE FIGHT, A, A HERCULEAN EFFORT TO GET THAT TO HAPPEN.

UM, GETTING TWO BALLS UP IN THE AIR AROUND HERE SEEMS PRETTY TOUGH ANYMORE.

UM, THE CON THE CONVERSATIONS HAVE TAKEN PLACE.

THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN AN EXCUSE.

UM, WE, WE DISCUSSED, UM, IMPLEMENTING ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL IN THE FIRE OR POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND WE WERE TOLD, WELL, WE GOTTA WAIT UNTIL, UH, I, I THINK WE WAITED FOR, UM, THE LEVY RESULTS.

I THINK WE'VE WAITED FOR, UH, UH, PUBLIC PRESENTATION AND THEN WE WAITED FOR, UH, OH, AFTER NEGOTIATIONS, AND NOW WE GOTTA WAIT FOR AFTER THE NEW CITY MANAGER COMES IN.

UM, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT MR. ZIG HAS SOME, UM, EXPERTISE IN THIS MATTER, AND THAT'LL BE GREAT WHEN HE GETS HERE, BUT I THINK CONVERSATIONS CAN START AHEAD OF THAT TO FIND OUT WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

AGAIN, THE FIGHT BEFORE YOU MENTIONED

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IT'S JUST WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MUCH TROUBLE GETTING ONE THING DONE, YOU CERTAINLY DON'T PUT TWO THINGS ON YOUR PLATE.

SO I'M GONNA JOIN MR. SHAW, BE THAT SECOND, AND IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO BE A THIRD, WE CAN MOVE THAT FORWARD.

THANK YOU, GLENN.

I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, BUT WE CAN GET A COUPLE THINGS ROLLING AT THE SAME TIME.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, LOOK, I I'M, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I I I'M, WE'RE WE'RE GONNA BE TRANSPARENT.

IN 2018, WE HIRED THOSE THREE FIREFIGHTERS.

YOU AND MR. SHAW VOTED NO.

SO I DON'T WANNA HEAR, OR I'M TIRED OF HEARING HOW SUPPORTIVE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY WE'VE BEEN.

WHEN IN 2018 WHEN NEW FIREFIGHTERS WAS ON THE AGENDA, YOU WERE A NO VOTE.

MR. SHAW WAS A NO VOTE.

MR. LYES WAS A, THERE'S A VERY YES.

YOU WANNA KNOW WHY WE WERE A NO VOTE? HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

MR. MR. LYES WAS A YES VOTE I'D LIKE TO RESPECT, BUT THEN NOW THIS TIME WHEN IT CAME BACK AROUND FOR FIREFIGHTERS, EVERYBODY JUMPED ON THAT BANDWAGON AND LEFT THE POLICE IRON DRY.

THAT'S, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.

GLEN, DO YOU WANNA TAKE THIS ONE? I WOULD LOVE TO GO AHEAD.

UH, MAYOR, I BELIEVE AT THAT TIME, WHAT YOU'RE REF REFERENCING WAS A GRANT THAT WAS PROPOSED THAT WOULD BRING ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS ON.

BUT THEN IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT THE, ONCE THAT GRANT RAN OUT, I BELIEVE OUR, UH, FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAD SAID WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO, UH, UH, CHEW OFF THE, THE COSTS ASSOCIATED AFTER THAT GRANT RAN OUT.

AND THAT WAS THE REASON THAT IT WAS PUSHED BACK.

IT WASN'T FOR LACK OF NEED OR ANYTHING ELSE.

IT WAS PURELY BECAUSE FINANCE SAID WE COULDN'T, UH, COULDN'T AFFORD IT AFTER THE GRANT.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IF OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT COMES BACK AND SAYS ADDITIONAL, ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS ARE GONNA BE, UH, AN ISSUE OR, OR A HIT TO THE 2024 BUDGET? AND WE HAVE THAT? ARE YOU GONNA VOTE NO FROM BUDGET CONSTRAINTS? WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME TOUGH CONVERSATIONS, AREN'T WE? I GUESS SO.

OKAY, MAYOR? YES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, I BELIEVE YOUR NAME WAS DOUG BARRINGER? YES.

THE F O P PRESIDENT.

CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? YES, YOU MAY.

WOULD YOU STEP IN THE PODIUM PLEASE? SO YOU CAN BE HEARD? I'LL ANSWER IT IF I CAN.

DON'T VIOLATE ANY, YOUR RULES.

WITH AN INTEREST IS ENCOURAGED TO COME OUT AND MEET MR. ZICK.

WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GET WITH YOUR COUNTERPARTS AND GET US A SHORT LIST AND EMAIL TO TONY ROGERS AND THAT WE WOULD BE HEARING DIRECTLY FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS? YES.

I MEAN, I, I HAVE THE STATEMENT THAT WAS OKAY, BUT LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, IS IT THEY WANT NEW UNI? LIKE I NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT.

VERY CLEAR, VERY SPOKEN.

I THINK ALL OF 'EM HAVE A GREAT VOICE.

I BELIEVE IN THEM AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM.

SO IF YOU WOULD GET YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND THEIR OPINIONS AND WHAT THEY WANT, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH, AN EMAIL TO TONY ROGERS AND HE'LL BE EMAIL IT TO US.

AND WHEN I PROMISE, WHEN RICHARD'S SICK COMES, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CONVERSATION.

THAT'S MY PROMISE.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.

OKAY, NEXT UP IS I, NUMBER NINE, CITY MANAGER REPORT.

[9. City Manager Report]

BRIAN.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

A COUPLE OF ITEMS FOR, UH, COUNSEL AND THE COMMUNITY THIS EVENING.

UH, FIRST WE'D LIKE TO INFORM FOLKS THAT THIS WEEKEND WILL BE THE LAST WEEKEND THAT THE CROW AQUATIC CENTER WILL BE OPEN AND OPERATIONAL THROUGH THE LABOR DAY HOLIDAY.

UH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO HOLD THE SPLASH PAD OPEN AND OPERATIONAL THROUGH NEXT SUNDAY, UH, SEPTEMBER 10TH IN LIGHT OF THE PENDING, UH, WARM WEATHER.

UH, WOULD ALSO LIKE TO LET COUNSEL KNOW AND THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED THE INITIAL DRAFT OF THE, UH, OLD TROY PIKE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WE HAD COMMISSIONED WITH T E C, UH, EARLIER IN THE YEAR.

UH, WE DID RECEIVE THAT REPORT, UH, ON, UH, FRIDAY, UH, AUGUST 25TH.

UH, THE CITY ENGINEERS CURRENTLY, UH, REVIEWING THE DOCUMENT, ALL 180 PLUS PAGES OF IT, UH, TO, UH, CONFIRM THAT, UH, THE REPORT CONTAINS ALL OF THE INFORMATION OR COMMENTARY ON ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD ASKED, ASKED.

UH, ONCE THAT REVIEW IS COMPLETE, WE WILL NOTIFY T E C FOR THE FINAL REPORT, UH, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT DOCUMENT AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

SPEAKING OF TRAFFIC AND TRAFFIC SAFETY, UH, THE CITY IS CURRENTLY CONDUCTING A, UH, TRAFFIC SAFETY STUDY, UH, SURVEY.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, UH, ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO LOG ONTO THE CITY WEBSITE AND, UH, COMPLETE THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.

UH, IT IS MUCH APPRECIATED.

UH, COUNCILWOMAN, UH, BURGE HAS ADVOCATED THAT THE CITY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF I I J A AND B B B, UH, GRANT FUNDING THAT IS AVAILABLE THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

UH, THIS STUDY, UH, THAT IS RELATED TO THE SURVEY IS A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE COMPLETED TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT MONEY.

SO, UH, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS SURVEY DONE AND COMPLETE THE ENTIRE CITY'S SAFETY STUDY SO WE CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.

UH, FEDERAL GRANT MONEY.

ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SHARE, UH, WITH COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY THAT TOTAL TENNIS WILL BE IN, UH, THE CITY STARTING THIS WEEK TO BEGIN RESTORATION OF THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.

UH, THEY, UH, WILL BEGIN WITH, UH, DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING FENCES, UH, AND NETS AND PREPARATION OF COURT EXPANSION AND RESURFACING.

THIS PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO TAKE APPROXIMATELY SIX WEEKS, EXCUSE ME, SEVEN WEEKS.

UH, AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT PROJECT TO BE DONE ON OR ABOUT OCTOBER 27TH, WEATHER PERMITTING.

AND THEN LAST AND CERTAINLY NOT LEAST ON MY LIST, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY TO TOMORROW NIGHT, CITY MANAGER MEET AND GREET.

UH, THAT EVENT IS HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS FROM SIX UNTIL 7:30 PM AND EVERYONE, UH,

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UH, I FOR ONE AND EXTREMELY GRATEFUL ABOUT HIS PENDING ARRIVAL.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR CITY COUNCIL, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT COUNCIL HAS FOR ME, SIR.

THANKS FRANK.

KATE, I'M WELCOME TO.

THANK YOU, MARY.

APPRECIATE.

HEY, BRIAN, WHEN IS THE STUDY DUE? COULD YOU GIVE A, IT HAS TO BE DONE BY DATE, THE STUDY? UH, I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT PARTICULAR INFORMATION, BUT I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP.

OR LIKE, CAN WE MAKE THAT ADDITION TO THE WEB POSTING? YES.

WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE DUE BY THE, WHATEVER THAT DATE IS? YES.

THAT'D BE AWESOME.

I APPRECIATE YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR NANCY, ACTUALLY.

UM, AND, AND WITH THAT, BRIAN, COULD YOU TELL US HOW LONG AFTER, UH, THE, THE, UH, SURVEY IS COMPLETE THAT THE RESULTS WE PRESENTED TO US? UH, YES.

THAT, UH, THAT'LL BE PART OF THE STUDY AND I'LL GET A FULL UPDATE ON THAT FROM THE ENGINEER.

AND I WILL MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO COUNSEL AS SOON AS WE, UH, AS SOON AS WE HAVE THAT, UH, TOGETHER.

SURE.

ANYTHING ELSE, ANITA? I WANNA KIND OF BACK UP, 'CAUSE I WAS WANTING TO GO BACK TO THAT.

UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER YOUR NAME.

I'M SORRY.

UM, THE UNION REP.

DOUG? YES, MR. BARRY HERE.

SO RICHARD ZICK STARTS ON THE 11TH.

I AM.

ON THE 19TH.

I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S JUMPING RIGHT IN, BUT WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO TALK LIKE, UM, COUNCILWOMAN BAKER SAID, SEE WHAT'S WANTED, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ON THE 19TH.

I KNOW RICHARD AND GLEN WAS THE NEXT MEETING, BUT THAT'S THE WORK SESSION AFTERWARDS.

ZICK WILL BE THERE AND I WANT IT ON THE WORK SESSION ON THE 19TH.

WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GET SOME DATA FOR US? I CAN REQUEST THAT INFORMATION.

THEN.

UH, UH, BRIAN AND I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT ALSO TO, WOULD THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME ON THE 19TH, DO YOU THINK? SURE.

SO I'M REQUESTING THE 19TH THAT THIS BE ADDED TO THE WORK SESSION.

I KNOW IT'S MR. ZICK KIND OF JUMPING IN, BUT LET'S JUMP IN AND LET'S GET THIS DONE.

THAT'S WHEN I, THAT'S LET I PLAN ON HAVING IT, THE DISCUSSION IS THIS, AS SOON AS HE WAS HERE, IT WOULD BE ONE OF THE HOT TOPICS OF DISCUSSION.

UM, BRIAN, YOU SAID THE, UH, LAST DAY OF THE KRO KROGER AQUATIC CENTER IS WHAT DATE AGAIN? I'M SORRY.

IT'S GONNA BE THE LABOR DAY.

LABOR DAY.

ITEM NUMBER 10, NEW BUSINESS 10 A TONY NO SAID PENDING BUSINESS ITEM 10 A IN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE VACATING THORN GATE DRIVE NORTH OF WAYNE GATE ROAD TO TRANSFER THE REMNANTS OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN CASE RP TWO THREE DASH ONE EIGHT AT THE SECOND RATING.

WHEN WILL WE HAVE THE FINANCIALS, UH, FOR THIS SEASON, UH, COMPLETED? I'D HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE FINANCE DIRECTOR.

EXCELLENT.

UM, MAYOR, I, I WOULD, UH, DEFINITELY LIKE TO GET THAT INFORMATION SOONER RATHER THAN LATER AS BUDGET TIME IS COMING, UH, TO SEE WHAT KIND OF IMPACT, UH, THE, UM, REPORTED LOSSES FROM THE KROGER AQUATIC CENTER ARE GONNA BE FOR THIS YEAR.

THANK YOU, GLENN.

OH, I'M SORRY.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, NEXT UP IS

[ An Ordinance To Approve Vacating Thorngate Drive, North Of Waynegate Road, To Transfer The Remnants Of The Public Right Of Way To The Adjacent Property Owners, And To Accept The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Case RP 23-18). (second reading)]

BRIAN COMMENTS? UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION, UH, ALLOWS FOR THE REMOVAL AND CESSATION OF A SUBS STREET, UH, THAT WAS, UH, CONSTRUCTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO, BUT WAS NEVER EXTENDED.

WAS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE WORK SESSION THAT THIS ITEM BE ADOPTED THIS EVENING? IS THERE A MOTION NANCY, MOVE TO ADOPT.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, GLENN? YEAH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

BRIAN, DO YOU KNOW, IS THAT GONNA MAIN BE MAINTAINED AS A PIECE, UH, SMALL PARCEL OF CITY PROPERTY, OR IS IT GONNA BE LIKE SPLIT AND DIVIDED BETWEEN THE TWO RESIDENTS THAT ARE THERE? NO, IT'LL BE DIVIDED IN SPLIT OR AMONGST THE ADJOINED RESIDENCE.

AWESOME.

SURE.

ANY DISCUSSION TONY? MS. BAKER? YES.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO AND NEXT IS ITEM ZERO.

OH, I'M SORRY, MR. LYONS ISN'T HERE.

ITEM NUMBER 11, NEW

[ A Motion To Appoint Stella Hyre To The Arts And Beautification Commission For A Term Ending June 30, 2025.]

BUSINESS ITEM 11.

A ITEM 11 A.

A MOTION TO APPOINT STELLA HIGHER TO THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION TO DETERMINING JUNE 30TH, 2025.

IT'S DISCUSSED AT THE WORK SESSION.

THIS WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY'S INTERVIEW PANEL, UH, TO MAKE THIS APPOINTMENT AND WOULD ASK FOR COUNSEL'S ACTION TONIGHT.

THERE WAS THE RECOMMENDATION.

IS THERE A MOTION, GLENN? MOTION TO ADOPT ANITA? SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

B, ITEM 11 B, A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 28TH, 2023 BY THE HUBER RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE TA 23 DASH 14 A TO AMEND, UH, PART 11, PLANNING AND ZONING CODE CHAPTER 1181, GENERAL PROVISIONS SECTION 1180 1.20.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS APPOINTMENT? TONY.

[ A Public Hearing Scheduled For August 28, 2023 By The Huber Heights City Council For Case TA 23-14A To Amend Part Eleven - Planning And Zoning Code, Chapter 1181 - General Provisions, Section 1181.20 - Building Materials For Dwellings Of The City Code Of Huber Heights.]

BUILDING MATERIALS FOR DWELLINGS OF THE CITY CODE OF HUBER HEIGHTS.

THANKS TONY.

SO THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 28TH, 2023 BY THE RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE TA 23 DASH 14 A IS NOW OPEN.

AND NEXT WE'LL CALL ON OUR CITY STAFF, MR. AARON RELL FOR THE INITIAL PRESENTATION.

UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR MEMBERS COUNCIL, AARON

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RELL.

UH, SO THIS IS A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT TO, UH, AMEND OUR BUILDING MATERIALS SECTION SPECIFICALLY FOR DWELLINGS.

UH, THIS IS TO ALIGN, UH, BETTER ALIGN OUR CODE WITH WHAT OUR RECENT POLICY DECISIONS HAVE BEEN, BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL.

UH, LARGELY RELATED TO SUBDIVISIONS.

CURRENTLY, UH, IN OUR STRAIGHT ZONED, UH, THERE'S A DISP, UH, DISPARITY BETWEEN, UM, THOSE, UH, AREAS THAT ARE ZONED AGRICULTURAL THROUGH R SEVEN VERSUS, UH, THOSE THAT ARE, UH, WITHIN THE P U D STANDARDS.

SO RIGHT NOW, UNDER STRAIGHT ZONING, IF YOU WERE TO BUILD A ONE STORY HOME, IT MUST BE A HUNDRED PERCENT BRICK.

UH, THE FIRST FLOOR OF ANY MULTI-STORY, UH, UH, OR THE FIRST FLOOR OF ANY MULTI-STORY BUILDINGS IN A STRAIGHT ZONE, UM, DISTRICT MUST BE A HUNDRED PERCENT, UH, BRICK ON THE FIRST FLOOR, UH, UNDER OUR PLANNED RESIDENTIAL.

UM, IT IS REALLY AT THE DISCRETION OF PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL.

UH, AND WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING ROUGHLY ABOUT 25% OF THE FRONT FACADE.

UH, SO THIS PROPOSED, UH, AMENDMENT DOES A COUPLE THINGS.

ONE, UH, WE CLARIFY THAT BRICK AND STONE CAN BE FULL DEPTH OR CULTURED, UH, BRICK OR STONE RIGHT NOW.

UH, IT JUST SAYS BRICK IN THE, UH, IN THE ZONING CODE.

UH, IT ALSO DEFINES OTHER MATERIALS THAT MAY BE USED FOR THAT NON BRICK OR THAT NON 25% REQUIREMENT, BUT THAT'S ALSO INCLUDES MASONRY OR VINYL.

WE ARE SETTING A MINIMUM STANDARD FOR VINYL, UH, AT 0.44 MILLIMETERS UNLESS IT'S, UH, INSULATED VINYL SIDING, UH, PARTLY TO REDUCE SAG, UH, WIND, UH, ISSUES WITH WIND, THAT KIND OF THING.

UH, ALL THOSE ISSUES THAT PEOPLE DON'T LIKE.

VINYL SIDING SHOULD BE ADDRESSED BY A THICKER VERSION OR INSULATED, UM, VINYL SIDING.

SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THAT IN STRAIGHT ZONED AREAS, WE MOVE DOWN TO A MINIMUM OF 25% FOR THE FIRST ON THE FIRST FLOOR FRONT FACADE.

THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH, WITH WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION AND, UM, THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN APPROVING OVER REALLY THE LAST FOUR YEARS OR SO IN OUR P U D AREAS.

UH, ONE AND TWO FAMILY STRUCTURES, IT WOULD BE 25% OF THE FRONT FACADE BE BRICK OR STONE.

UH, AND THE MULTIFAMILY OR MIXED USE BUILDINGS, IT WOULD BE 10% OF THE AGGREGATE WALL SERVICE.

UH, AND THE REASON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT IS ON OUR MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS, YOU TEND TO SEE THE FORESIGHTED ARCHITECTURE.

UH, THERE TEND TO BE ON PROMINENT PUBLIC THOROUGH AFFAIRS.

UH, THIS GIVES THE DESIGNERS A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY, UH, TO PUT, YOU KNOW, LESS BRICK AND STONE IN THE BACK OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND REALLY ALIGN THAT UP TO, UM, HAVE, HAVE MORE OF A, OF A, A FACE ON OUR MAJOR PUBLIC THOROUGH AFFAIRS.

UH, MS. BAKER, YOU ASKED WHAT 25% LOOKS LIKE.

UH, THIS IS ONE, UM, EXAMPLE WHERE THEY'VE WRAPPED SOME OF THE PORCH COLUMNS, UH, AND THERE'S LESS ON THE KIND OF THIS FRONT WALL.

UH, THIS IS 25%.

UH, IN THIS CASE, THERE IS STONE ON THE, REALLY THIS, THIS PORCH SECTION HERE, BECAUSE THE PORCH COLUMNS AREN'T, AREN'T WRAPPED.

UH, SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING THAT.

SO THE GARAGE ALSO COUNTS THE, THE, THE BOAT HALFWAY UP TO THE GARAGE FRONTS ALSO.

YEAH.

SO THERE IS A, THERE'S STONE IN THERE TOO.

YEAH.

DOES IT INCLUDE A WRAP? HMM? DOES IT INCLUDE A WRAP? MM-HMM.

? IT DOES.

UH, SO THIS IS JUST SOME VISUAL, UH, EN CARRIAGE TRAILS WHERE, UH, WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT BUILDING OVER THE PAST DECADE.

UH, THIS HAS BEEN THE STANDARD, UH, IN THE P U D AREAS.

WE'RE ALSO, UH, LAY OUT, UM, SOME, SOME STANDARDS OR GUIDELINES FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CONSIDER AS FAR AS THE TYPES AND LOCATION.

ONE, TO ENCOURAGE A MIX OF BUILDING FACADES AND MATERIAL USAGE.

UH, ONE TO DISCOURAGE MONOTONOUS BUILDING REPETITION.

UH, AND SECONDLY, TO ENCOURAGE THAT HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF FULL DEPTH BRICK OR CULTURED STONE OR STONE ON OUR MAJOR PUBLIC, UH, UH, STREETS AND THOROUGHFARES TO PUT THAT SORT OF HUBER FACE FORWARD PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED, UH, FIVE TO ZERO TO APPROVE THIS ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU, AARON.

NEXT, LET'S CALL OUR LAW DIRECTOR TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF YOU HAVE ANY.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPROVAL OF THIS ISSUE THIS EVENING? IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE? OKAY.

NEXT, I'D CALL MEMBERS THAT HE WRITES CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF YOU HAVE ANY.

WE WOULD MOVE ON TO ADMINISTRATION AND ITEM 11 C.

ONE LAST TIME I'D ASK IF ANYONE'S PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR ZONING ISSUE? OKAY.

YOU SEE NONE BARRING ANY FURTHER COMMENTS.

THE PUBLIC HEARING BY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE TA 23 DASH 14 A IS NOW HEREBY CLOSED.

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OKAY, SO NEXT

[ An Ordinance Amending Certain Sections Of Part Eleven, Planning And Zoning Code, Of The City Code Of Huber Heights (Case TA 23-14A). (first reading)]

ITEM 11 C, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CERTAIN SECTIONS OF PART 11 PLANNING AND ZONING CODE, THE CITY CODE OF HUBER HEIGHTS AND CASE TA TWO THREE DASH 14 A AT THE FIRST READING, BRIAN, UH, PURSUANT TO THE, UH, PRESENTATION JUST MADE BY THE PLANNER, UH, IT'S THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS ITEM BE PASSED TO A SECOND READING, AND THAT WAS, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION MOVING THIS ITEM, ITEM ONTO A SECOND? READING? OKAY, SO NO OBJECTION.

I'LL MOVE THIS ON TO A SECOND.

READING.

NEXT UP IS ITEM 11 D.

[ A Resolution Approving The Collective Bargaining Agreement With The Fraternal Order Of Police, Ohio Labor Council, Inc. Representing Sergeants In The Police Division For The Time Period January 1, 2023 Through December 31, 2025. (first reading)]

ITEM 11 D, THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT WITH THE FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE, OHIO LABOR COUNCIL INCORPORATED REPRESENTING SERGEANTS IN THE POLICE DIVISION FOR THE TIME PERIOD.

JANUARY 1ST, 2023 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2025.

AT THE FIRST THREE, BRIAN, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TITLE, THIS, UH, PARTICULAR MEASURE DOES APPROVE THE, UH, THE AFOREMENTIONED, UH, COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT.

THIS WAS NEGOTIATED BETWEEN THE PARTIES ON AUGUST 2ND AND WAS RATIFIED UNANIMOUSLY BY THIS BODY.

UH, PRIOR TO TONIGHT'S MEETING, WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNSEL, ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION THIS EVENING.

OKAY, THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORK SESSION IS ADOPTED IT THIS EVENING.

NANCY, MOVE TO ADOPT.

IS THERE A SECOND MARK? SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

AND RESOLUTION PASSES BY VOTE SEVEN TO ZERO.

NEXT UP IS ITEM 11

[ A Resolution Approving The Collective Bargaining Agreement With The Fraternal Order Of Police, Ohio Labor Council, Inc. Representing Lieutenants In The Police Division For The Time Period January 1, 2023 Through December 31, 2025. (first reading)]

ITEM 11 E A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT WITH THE FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE, OHIO LABOR COUNCIL INCORPORATED REPRESENTING LIEUTENANTS IN THE POLICE DIVISION FOR THE TIME PERIOD.

JANUARY 1ST, 2023 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2025.

AT THE FIRST MEETING, BRIAN, UH, AGAIN, THE CITY AND THE UNIT WERE ABLE TO COME TO A CONSENSUS ON THIS AGREEMENT, UH, BACK ON AUGUST 2ND.

IT WAS RATIFIED UNANIMOUSLY BY THE UNIT PRIOR TO TONIGHT'S MEETING.

AND IT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT COUNSEL ADOPT THIS MATTER THIS EVENING.

IT WAS.

RECOMMENDATIONS THERE A MOTION, CLIN.

MOTION TO ADOPT.

DON? I WILL.

SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ATTORNEY MR. OTTO? YES.

MOTION CARRIES ALSO SEVEN TO ZERO.

AND NEXT UP IS ITEM 11

[ An Ordinance To Approve An Economic Development Plan And To State That The City May Hereafter Proceed With Approval Of A Tax Increment Financing Incentive District. (first reading)]

ITEM 11 F IN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND TO STATE THAT THE CITY MAY HEREAFTER PROCEED WITH APPROVAL OF A TAX INCREMENT FINANCING INCENTIVE DISTRICT AT THE FIRST READING.

AND, UH, I BELIEVE BRIAN RECOMMENDATION WAS TO PASS THIS ITEM TO A SECOND READING, OR ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ITEM ONTO A SECOND READING CASE.

SEEING NONE.

WE'LL MOVE THIS TO ANOTHER READING.

NEXT UP IS ITEM 11

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Community Reinvestment Area Agreement With Simms The Gables Of HH, Ltd. Under Certain Terms And Conditions. (first reading)]

ITEM 11 G A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA AGREEMENT WITH SIMS, THE GABLES OF HH LIMITED UNDER CERTAIN TERMS AND CONDITIONS AT THE FIRST READ.

BRIAN? UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION IS PREVIOUSLY BRIEFED TO COUNCIL.

UH, DOES ALLOW THE CITY TO ENTER INTO AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP, UH, WITH SIMS DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO FACILITATE, UH, THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF THE GABLES, UH, AND TO ALSO SUPPORT THE CITY'S LONG-TERM, UH, DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENT NEEDS WITH COME WITH REGARD TO INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, THIS PROPOSED PACKAGE REPRESENTS APPROXIMATELY $5.6 MILLION, UM, IN, UH, REVENUE BENEFIT TO THE CITY OVER 30 YEARS.

IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS ITEM BE ADOPTED THIS EVENING.

IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION, BUT WE'RE MISSING ONE MEMBER.

SO I'M GONNA RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE THIS ITEM TO A SECOND READING.

IS THERE A MAJORITY OBJECTION? OKAY, MOVE THIS ITEM TO ANOTHER READING.

NEXT UP IS ITEM 11 H.

SO MR. THAT'S MR. NO, THAT IS WHAT MR. SHAW SAID.

THAT IS WHAT MR. SHAW HAD A WORD WITH THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THIS TOPIC.

OKAY, LET'S MOVE TO THE NEXT READING.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THAT AND MOVE ALONG, THEN WE, THEN, THEN WE'LL DO IT.

RICHARD, I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO, TO DO A MOTION TO ADOPT ON ITEM G.

THERE A SECOND, MARK.

ITEM 11 H IN ORDINANCE, APPROVING INDIVIDUAL ASSESSMENT AMOUNTS AND DIRECTING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE OR HIS, OR HER DESIGNEE TO CERTIFY THE AMOUNTS TO THE APPLICABLE COUNTY AUDITOR FOR COLLECTION AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY AT THE FIRST.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.

IS THAT FIVE TO TWO? TWO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE H, I'M SORRY, 11 H

[ An Ordinance Approving Individual Assessments Amounts And Directing The Director Of Finance Or His/Her Designee To Certify The Amounts To The Applicable County Auditor For Collection, And Declaring An Emergency. (first reading)]

BRIAN? UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

THIS LEGISLATION IS REGULAR OCCURRING LEGISLATION BEFORE THIS BODY AND PROVIDES OUR

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ABILITY TO RECOUP, UH, EXPENSES INCURRED, UH, FOR A VARIETY OF SERVICES PROVIDED THROUGH THE UTILIZATION OF ASSESSMENTS.

UH, THIS PARTICULAR MEASURE IS LISTED AS AN EMERGENCY AND WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL, ADOPT THIS, UH, MEASURE THIS EVENING, UH, THROUGH WAIVING OF THE SECOND READING, UH, SO THAT WE MAY MEET FILING REQUIREMENTS AS, UH, UH, SET BY THE, UH, COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE.

IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORK SESSION THAT THIS ITEM BE APPROVED THIS EVENING.

IS THERE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING? NANCY? MOVE TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING.

KATE.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION TONY? MR. WEBB? YES.

MOTION TO WAIVE CARRIE? SEVEN TO ZERO.

NEXT WE NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT ANITA.

MOVE TO ADOPT DON.

I WILL.

SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND.

DURING ANY DISCUSSION, SO, MR. SHAW? YES.

MOTION ALSO CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

NEXT IS

[ An Ordinance Providing For The Issuance And Sale Of Notes In The Maximum Principal Amount Of $1,662,000 In Anticipation Of The Issuance Of Bonds, For The Purpose Of Paying The Costs Of Acquiring Approximately 51 Acres Of Real Property Near The Intersection Of Brandt Pike And Executive Boulevard And Providing For The Site Preparation Thereof, All In Support Of Economic Development And Job Creation Within The City. (first reading)]

AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF NOTES AND THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPLE AMOUNT OF $1,662,000 IN ANTICIPATION OF THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE COST OF ACQUIRING APPROXIMATELY 51 ACRES OF REAL PROPERTY NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF BRANT PIKE AND EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD, PROVIDING FOR THE SITE PREPARATION THEREOF, ALL IN SUPPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND JOB CREATION WITHIN THE CITY AT THE FIRST READING.

BRIAN? UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION IS ASSOCIATED WITH A SHORT-TERM BOND, ANTICIPATORY NOTE.

UH, WE ACTUALLY ARE SCHEDULING CLOSING FOR A PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, AND WE ANTICIPATE HAVING APPROXIMATELY ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WITHIN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS AVAILABLE.

UH, BEFORE THIS MEASURE NEEDS TO BE CONVERTED TO, UH, ANY OTHER FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT, WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL ADOPT THIS PARTICULAR MEASURE, UM, THIS EVENING, UH, BY WAIVING THE SECOND READING, BUT TO ALLOW IT TO PROCEED AS A NON-EMERGENCY PIECE OF LEGISLATION.

THIS IS TO ENSURE THAT, UH, BOND COUNSEL AND THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR HAVE SUFFICIENT TIME TO PRICE, UH, AND SELL THIS, UH, PARTICULAR NOTE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO WAIVE, UH, THE SECOND READING, BUT ALLOWING TO CONTINUE IN A NORMAL LEGISLATIVE PROCESS? GLEN? MOTION TO WAIVE.

OFFICIAL REPORTS AND COMMENTS.

DON.

I WILL.

SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND TO WAIVE.

THE SECOND READING IS VERY DISCUSSION.

MOTION TO WAIVE CARRIE.

SEVEN TO ZERO.

NEXT, ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ADOPTION.

AND SECOND, A DISCUSSION ON THIS.

[12. City Official Reports And Comments]

DOES ANYONE ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING? YES, GLENN? YEAH.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, UH, GIVE A QUICK SHOUT OUT TO COUNCILWOMAN KITCHEN HERE FOR HER EFFORTS, UM, AT YESTERDAY'S F O A RALLY DOWNTOWN HUGE EVENT.

GREAT TURNOUT AS ALWAYS A SPECTACULAR EVENT.

ANITA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO AROUND THIS COMMUNITY.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANKS LYNN.

ANYONE ELSE, RICHARD? THANK YOU MAYOR.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO, UH, SECOND THOSE COMMENTS, UH, ON BEHALF OF, UH, COUNCILWOMAN KITCHEN, THE ENTIRE F O A GROUP, UH, IT'S ALWAYS A, UM, A GREAT, UH, A GREAT EVENT.

UH, I'M GLAD TO BE INVITED, UH, TO THAT EVENT.

UM, IT'S, UH, IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO TO SEE THE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO HELP THOSE THAT ARE IN NEED, UH, IN THIS, IN, IN THE REGION.

UH, ADDITIONALLY, UM, I I ATTENDED A SOFT OPENING FOR THE, UH, SHEETS, UH, WHICH WILL HAVE A GRAND OPENING TOMORROW.

UM, UH, GREAT, GREAT ENVIRONMENT, GREAT STORE, GREAT SETUP.

UM, IT'S, UH, IT'S GONNA BE AN EXCITING, UH, AND ADVENTUROUS PHASE TO, UH, TO SEE THAT OPEN UP.

UM, I ASSUME THERE'S GONNA BE SOME TRAFFIC HEADACHE IN THE BEGINNING.

I HOPE IT DOESN'T LAST TOO LONG.

OFFICER LAMBERT SATURDAY.

I SECOND THOSE COMMENTS.

RICHARD.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UM, YOU HAVE ABOUT ANOTHER HOUR.

PLEASE GO OUT TO SKYLINE CHILI AND IT'S CONNIE'S WITH A COP, I BELIEVE FOR ANOTHER AN HOUR.

LOVE TO SEE YOU.

SO STOP OUT AND GET YOUR DINNER TONIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH AND HAVE A GREAT NIGHT EVERYBODY.

THANKS KATE.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? YES, BRIAN, AS YOU'RE GATHERING THE, UH, DATA ON THE, UH, KROGER AQUATIC CENTER.

DID YOU ALSO GATHER THE DATA ON THOMAS CLOUD PARK? HAPPY TO DO SO.

EXPENSES HAVE BEEN THERE.

SEEING NONE, UH, THERE IS ALSO NO REASON FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING, SO IT IS NOW 6 59 AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING IN.