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ALRIGHT.

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SHE,

[ AGENDA MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road August 23, 2023 6:00 P.M. ]

SHE.

ALL RIGHT.

THE TIME NOW IS 1800 HOURS.

I CALL THE, UH, MILITARY VETERAN COMMISSION OF HU HIGHEST ORDER.

WE CAN ALL RISE FOR A PLEASURE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLED THE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

DEAR LORD, TODAY, IN ALL DAYS, WE CHOOSE TO HONOR OUR MILITARY AND VETERANS WORTHY MEN AND WOMEN WHO GAVE TO THEMSELVES WHEN THEY WERE CALLED UPON TO SERVE AND PROTECT OUR COUNTRY.

WE ASK FATHER THAT YOU BLESS THEM FOR THEIR UNSELFISH SERVICE AND FOR THE DEDICATION THEY HAVE SHOWN TO PRESERVE OUR FREEDOMS, OUR SAFETY, AND OUR COUNTRY'S HERITAGE.

PLEASE, FATHER, BLESS THEM ABUNDANTLY FOR THE HARDSHIPS THEY FACE, FOR THE SACRIFICES THEY MAKE, AND FOR THEIR MANY CONTRIBUTION TO AMERICA'S VICTORIES OVER TYRANNY AND OPPRESSION.

WE RESPECT 'EM.

WE THANK 'EM, WE ARE PROUD OF THEM, AND WE PRAY THAT YOU'LL WATCH OVER THEM, THESE VERY SPECIAL PEOPLE.

HEAVENLY FATHER, HOLD YOUR TROOPS IN YOUR LOVING HANDS.

PROTECT THEM AS THEY PROTECT US.

BLESS THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES.

FOR THE SOUTH OF SACS, THEY PERFORM FOR US IN OUR TIME OF BEING.

LORD, PLEASE GUIDE US IN ALL THAT WE DO AND BLESS ALL THE MILITARY AND VETERANS WITH PEACE AND HAPPINESS.

THESE THINGS I HUMBLY ASK IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, OUR LORD AND SAVIOR.

AMEN.

AMEN.

CAN WE ADD ROLL CALL PLEASE? ROLL.

CALL.

MR. BS.

HERE.

MR. GERARD? HERE.

MR. HANCOCK? HERE.

MR. ESTEBAN? HERE.

MR. JOHNSON.

HERE.

MR. LASLEY.

EXCUSE ME.

MS. BLUEY.

MR. UNDERWOOD.

HERE.

MR. WINDSOR, PRESENT.

I'D ASK THE MOTION TO BE MADE FOR THE EXCUSED ABSENCE OF MR. LASHLEY AND MRS. LEVY.

SO, HAVE WE HEARD ANY THAT? CAN I GET A SECOND? I'M SORRY.

MOTION.

CAN I GET A SECOND? SO MOVED.

SECOND.

OKAY.

THE MOTION HAS BEEN, UH, RIGHT AND SECONDED.

FIRST WE'RE GONNA GO TO, UH, APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

DOES EVERYBODY HAVE THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING? OKAY.

HAS EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? CAN I GET A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING, PLEASE? SO MOVED.

I DO THE SECOND.

SECOND.

IT'S BEEN, UH, MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE ACCEPT THE, UH, APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM, UH, THE JUNE, OR SORRY, THE JULY WAS THAT 26TH MEETING.

ALL RIGHT.

ANNOUNCEMENT SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS.

WE NONE.

OKAY.

KEEP ON MOVING THEN.

UH, I SEE WE DON'T HAVE ANY CITIZENS FOR COMMENTS, SO WE CAN SKIP PAST THAT TOO.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, OLD BUSINESS THEN.

UM, UH, FIRST THING WE CHAIRED LAST MONTH OF ELECTION OF A NEW CHAIR.

WE'LL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR AS I SHOULD BE.

I'M SORRY.

QUESTION.

GO AHEAD.

QUESTION.

IN THE ABSENCE OF THE CURRENT ACTING CHAIR, SHALL WE CONTINUE OR TABLE THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? THAT, THAT THAT'S A MOTION.

I WOULD ASK THE VICE CHAIR TO MAKE THAT MOTION A SECOND.

DOES SOMEBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION FOR IT? NO, BUT I THINK IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSS PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR WEEKS.

SO I DON'T THINK HIM BEING HERE AND NOT BEING HERE, REALLY, I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT HE WANTS.

I WOULD, I WOULD, I'M SORRY.

I WOULD FEEL AS THOUGH I WOULD THINK THAT YOU'RE TO BE HERE FOR THE PROCESS.

THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST ME.

SO YOU GUYS CAN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE PASSING THAT TORCH ONTO SOMEBODY ELSE, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING YOU SHOULD BE HERE FOR.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, WE'RE, THAT'S WHY WE'RE COMMITT COMMITTING.

BUT MOST OF US HERE KNOW YOU ALREADY, AND SO I DON'T THINK A LOT, MOST OF US WOULD.

UH, I I THINK WE

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SHOULD HANDLE IT TONIGHT, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

YES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I AGREE.

I MEAN, I, I, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, AND I AGREE, BUT I ALSO AGREE.

I MEAN, MR. LASLEY IS FILLING IT KNOWINGLY IN AN INTERIM BASIS.

AND, UH, I THINK HE'S READY TO PASS THE COURT.

SO I GUESS FROM HERE, WHAT, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP YOU OUT BIT, IS BASICALLY WHAT THE MOTION IS TO MOVE ON WITH THE VOTE, TO PROCEED WITH THE, THE VOTE TONIGHT.

AND, AND WE WOULD, WE WOULD NEED A SECOND FROM THAT, FROM THE COMMISSION.

I SECOND THAT ONE.

OKAY.

SO YOU, OKAY.

WELL, IT'S BEEN PROPERLY, UH, UH, BROUGHT UP IN THIS SECOND.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON.

WE'VE GOT, IT'S GONNA MAKE EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, THEY, EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEING, SO WE'RE SECONDING IT.

OH, OKAY.

RIGHT.

SO EVERYBODY, SO IF EVERYBODY AGREES, WE'RE GOING, THEY SECOND AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON.

YOU TAKE VOTE? YES, I VOTE NO.

I WANT, WAIT A MINUTE.

SO, FOR ALL IN FAVOR, CAN I, I GET A, CAN I, WAIT, WHAT'S THE MOTION? I'M SORRY.

THE MOTION IS THAT WE, I'M NOT CLEAR ON THE MOTION.

I'M SORRY.

THE MO I'M SORRY.

THE MOTION IS THAT WE GO AHEAD AND VOTE, UM, FOR A NEW CHAIR THIS EVENING INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL THE PRESIDENT CHAIR IS, IS, IS HERE.

OKAY.

SO, UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AND THE RIGHT, UH, THE NAYS HAVE THE SAME, RIGHT? NAY, NAY.

SO BY VOTE, UH, WHAT'S THAT? FOUR TO TWO? THEN WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON WITH IT.

SO I GUESS WITH THAT, UM, WE NEED TO MOVE ON WITH, UM, BASICALLY, UM, A MOTION FOR SOMEONE TO BRING FORWARD.

AND THERE SHOULD BE A SECOND FOR A, A, A PERSON WITH AION TO NO.

YEAH.

SO I'LL START OFF WITH A QUESTION WITH THE NOMINATION FOR MS, FOR INCIDENT, UH, FOR THE CHAIR.

ARE WE DOING A VICE CHAIR AT THIS TIME, OR IS DO MULTIPLE SECONDS.

WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN THE PAST.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

WITH THE SECOND THERE BECOMES THE VOTE FOR MR. WINDSOR AS THE CHAIR MOVING FORWARD.

LENGTHY RULE CALL MR. BANQUETS.

YES.

MR. GERARD? YES.

MR. HANCOCK? YES.

MR. ESTEBAN? YES.

MR. JOHNSON? YES.

MR. UNDERWOOD? YES.

MOTION PASSES AS THE NEW CHAIR AS MR. WINDOR.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, WE'LL NOW NEED TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OR NOMINATION FOR THE VICE CHAIR.

UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE A MOTION THEY'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AS, AS FAR AS THE COMMISSION, I MOVE TO CHARLES HANCOCK TO, AM I ALLOWED TO SAY? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

I'LL SECOND.

I'LL SECOND YOU.

SECOND.

YES.

OKAY.

THERE'S BEEN A MOTION TO, UM, NOMINATE AS THE VICE CHAIR IS MR. HANCOCK.

UM, THE SECOND IT HAS BEEN MADE BY MR. WINDSOR.

UM, AGAIN, WE'LL TAKE THE ROLL AND MAKE THE, UH, VOTE APPEAR.

MR. BANQUETS? YES.

MR. GERARD? YES.

MR. HANCOCK? YES.

CAN'T VOTE FOR YOURSELF.

CAN'T VOTE FOR YOURSELF.

MR. ESTEBAN? YES.

MR. JOHNSON? YES.

MR. UNDERWOOD? YES.

MR. WINDSOR? YES.

VOTE IS UNANIMOUS.

THE NEW VICE CHAIR, UM, WITH THESE PAST TWO MOTIONS, UH, MOVING FORWARD WITH MR. MR. WINDSOR AND MR. HANCOCK.

SO THIS WILL, UM, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE ARE UNDER DEGREES.

THIS WILL TAKE EFFECT STARTING NEXT MONTH, CORRECT? IS THAT CORRECT? MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

SO THE PROPER INDOCTRINATION, I GUESS I WOULD SAY, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, WOULD BE NEXT MONTH THEN.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I, I JUST THINK THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS PASSED ON OUR AGENDA.

I KNOW WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE, SO YEAH.

SO THERE'S NO, NO REASON TO HOLD BACK.

SO, MOVING FORWARD, UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE THE MEETING OR WOULD YOU, WE NEED MOVE FORWARD IN THAT PLACE AS FAR AS

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BEFORE? GO AHEAD.

UM, VETERAN'S DAY TASKS FORCE, UH, ITEM EIGHT B VETERAN'S DAY TASKS, SPEAKER SLASH PASTOR, THAT WAS MY RESPONSIBILITY.

AND SO FAR I'VE HAD BAD NEWS ABOUT ALL THE, ALL THE TENDERS I PUT OUT THAT WERE MET WITH NEGATIVE RESPONSES.

I STILL ACCEPT THE RESPONSIBILITY.

I WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO AND TRY TO HAVE IT ACCOMPLISHED BY NEXT.

ARE YOU LOOKING FOR BOTH SPEAKER AND PASTOR? SPEAKER? BOTH.

WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR BOTH SPEAKER AND PASTOR? NO, UH, I'M SORRY.

THAT GOOD POINT.

THE SPEAKER I THOUGHT WAS WE DISCUSSED THAT EARLIER.

YOU WANT YEAH.

UH, I THOUGHT, MR, COULD YOU GO LOOK FOR A SPEAKER, I BELIEVE YEAH.

AND I, I, I RECOMMENDED, UH, GARY WASHINGTON.

YES.

BUT SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION TOLD ME THAT, UH, GARY SPOKE AT LAST YEAR'S, AT LAST VETERAN'S DAY.

LAST YEAR'S MEMORIAL DAY, BUT HE SPOKE LAST YEAR, MEMORIAL DAY.

YEAH.

HE DIDN'T SPEAK, HE DIDN'T SPEAK SECOND, BUT, AND HE SAID, YOU, HE, HE'D BE WILLING TO SPEAK.

AND I EVEN TOLD HIM, I SAID, GARY, I SAID, CERTAIN MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION DIDN'T WANT YOU TO SPEAK, BUT BECAUSE SPEAK, THEY WERE, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE REAL TRUTH THAT, YOU KNOW, HE SPOKE LAST YEAR, BUT HE SPOKE AT MEMORIAL DAY, NOT VETERANS DAY.

AND SO, UH, AND HE SAID HE, HE, UH, HE WOULD BE PROUD TO SPEAK IN VETERAN'S DAY.

MR. TOM, I DON'T THINK, I'M SORRY.

GARY WASHINGTON IS A MASON, AND I'M A MASON.

SO I'VE, I'VE HEARD HIM SPEAK NOT ONLY AT THE MEMORIAL DAY THINGING LIKE THAT, BUT ALSO AT MANY, MANY, MANY OCCASIONS IN LODGE.

AND THE GUY IS AN OUTSTANDING SPEAKER, AND I, I ABSOLUTELY A HUNDRED PERCENT CONFIDENT THAT WHATEVER HE COMES IN UP WITH WILL BE OF HONOR FOR THE VETERANS DAY.

I, FROM THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD LAST TIME, I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS THE FACT THAT WE DIDN'T WANT HIM, WE DIDN'T WANT HIM TO SPEAK.

I THINK THAT SOME PEOPLE WANTED TO FIND SOMEBODY DIFFERENT THAT WAY.

WE WERE GIVING OTHER PEOPLE A CHANCE IN THE COMMUNITY TO SPEAK, IS WHAT I, THE WAY THAT I TOOK IT.

BUT, UM, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE WAY THAT IT, THAT IT CAME ACROSS.

I, I, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T PARTICULARLY LIKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I MEAN'S A VETERAN THAT WANTS TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR IT TO SAY THAT WE DON'T WANT HIM TO SPEAK BECAUSE MY, UH, I, I, I GOT A SON THAT LIVES IN HAWAII.

MM-HMM.

KNOW, SO WE'RE FORCED TO GO THERE EVERY YEAR.

YEAH.

YES.

THAT'S, SO I HEARD DARN LAST, LAST YEAR, MEMORIAL DAY, THAT'S WHERE WE WERE.

SO WE DIDN'T SEE GARY SPEAK AT MEMORIAL DAY HERE.

YES, SIR.

AND THEN, AND THEN, AND THEN I LOOKED UP, ACTUALLY MY WIFE LOOKED UP FOR ME THAT THE SPEAKER FOR, UH, VETERAN'S DAY LAST YEAR WAS, UH, A, UH, A ONESTAR MEDICAL DOCTOR, UH, JOHN OR ER, GENERAL JOHN ANDRES.

AND THE REASON WE GOT HIM THERE WAS A YOUNG MAN THAT WAS ON ACTIVE DUTY, AND HE WAS SITTING ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROOM.

AND HE HAD, HE HAD TO DROP OUT OF COMMISSION BECAUSE HE GOT THE, HE WAS GONNA PC S SOMEWHERE IN WISCONSIN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND HE WORKED FOR THIS GUY.

THIS GUY WAS WITH THE, UH, SEVEN 11TH HUMAN PERFORMANCE WING.

IN FACT, HE WAS THE COMMANDER OF THE SEVEN HUMAN PERFORMANCE WING.

AND, UH, AND I'M, I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED THAT SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE LAST, LAST VETERAN'S DAY DIDN'T REMEMBER HIM.

'CAUSE THE GUY WAS, HE, THE GUY WAS ALSO AN OUTSTANDING SPEAKER, YOU KNOW, AND HE, HE'S GOING UP, HE WENT PCS TO, HE'S DOING, HE'S DOING SOMETHING SOMEWHERE ELSE.

BUT ANYWAY, HE WAS, HE WAS, SO HE, IT TOUCHED ME AS, 'CAUSE HE WAS THE SPEAKER WITH THE, HE WAS THE MEDICAL DOCTOR WHEN, UH, THAT U S S COLE AND THEY GOT A HOLE IN IT.

MM-HMM.

.

HE TOOK CARE OF THOSE PATIENTS.

AND ALSO HE TALKED ABOUT HIS, UH, WHEN HE WAS A LITTLE KID, HIS UNCLE WAS A VIETNAM WAR VET.

HIS, HIS, UH, HIS UNCLE WAS, HE WAS ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE LRPS IN VIETNAM.

AND THE GUY CAME BACK.

HE HAD A LOT OF, UH, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, AND HE WAS AN ALCOHOLIC.

AND THIS, UH, THIS GUY SAID WHEN HE WAS EVEN, UH, DURING HIS TEENAGERS, HE LOOKED UP THROUGH HIS UNCLE.

AND IT WAS, UH, IT WAS A VERY TOUCHING STORY.

BUT, UH, WILL YOU YIELD THE FLOOR FOR A SECOND? YEAH.

ARE YOU RE ARE YOU STILL NOT IN FAVOR OF MR. WASHINGTON BEING NO, I I I'M ALL FOR IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YES.

WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, I MEAN,

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THE ISSUE THAT WE HAD WITH HIM, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYBODY FEELS ABOUT SOMEONE SPEAKING THAT SPOKE BEFORE IN ONE OF OUR FUNCTIONS BEFORE.

I DON'T SEE WHERE THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE.

I JUST DON'T SEE, AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WANT TO GET, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE OTHER PEOPLE COME AND SPEAK AND GIVE SOME OTHER PEOPLE A SHAME, BUT WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S WILLING TO GO ON THE COMMUNITY AND FIND SOMEONE AND SOMEBODY THAT'S ACTUALLY WILLING TO COME HERE OR TO COME AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TO ACTUALLY, UM, UH, PERFORM THAT, THAT DUTY FOR US.

I DON'T SEE WHY IT WOULD BE, I DON'T SEE WHY IT WOULD BE AN ISSUE.

I MEAN, DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE QUEUE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? I WAS GONNA SAY, IF, YOU KNOW, LEAVE IT OPEN UNTIL NEXT MEETING AS FAR AS WHO WE WANT TO SPEAK.

AND THEN IF NOBODY ELSE BRINGS ANYBODY TO, TO THE COURT FOR, UH, OR ANOTHER SPEAKER, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CLOSE OUT IN.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HIM SPEAKING EVEN IF HE HAS SPOKEN AT ANOTHER EVENT.

BUT I MEAN, WE AS A COMMISSION NEED TO BE ENGAGED AS FAR AS FINDING SOMEBODY ELSE.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE, SO I GUESS YOU WOULD NEED A MOTION TO TABLE IT TILL TABLE, TILL.

I WOULD JUST AS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION FOR, FOR YOUR ALL'S DISCUSSION, IT WOULD BE, UM, BE RESPECTFUL TO THE, THE, YOU KNOW, MR. ROSS SINCE TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, PUT HIM ON BOARD.

UM, AND THEN MAYBE, LOOK, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING A SECOND SPEAKER IF, IF YOU'RE AGAINST ANY OF THAT.

RIGHT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, TO, TO LARRY'S POINT, IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE QUEUE AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU TAKE TWO, UM, YOU KNOW, TWO'S ALWAYS BETTER THAN ONE.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, SO TAG TEAM IT UP.

AND I DIDN'T FEEL, I DIDN'T FEEL WE'RE GETTING SHORT ON TIME.

WE NEED, WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.

THAT'S WHAT I DON'T WANT TO TABLE THIS PERSON, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IS WE MEET ONCE A MONTH.

THAT'S WHAT I'M, I'M, I'M KIND OF PRESSING Y'ALL RIGHT NOW.

WHEN I SAY THIS IS THIS END OF AUGUST, SEPTEMBER COMES, AND OCTOBER COMES QUICK.

YOU'RE RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING MY, SO THIS, YOU GOT, YOU'VE GOT REALLY IN, IN REALITY, YOU HAVE ABOUT THREE WEEKS OF, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S THE TRUTH BE SEVEN.

BUT TO GET THIS DONE, TO PREPARE IT FOR YOUR UPCOMING MEETINGS AND YOUR DISCUSSIONS, YOU GOT THREE WEEKS.

WILL, WILL THE CHAIR ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON YESTERDAY, SIR? YEAH, OF COURSE.

I'D MOVE THAT MR. WASHINGTON BE CONFIRMED AS PRINCIPAL SPEAKER FOR .

I'LL SECOND.

MOTION'S BEEN, UH, MADE BY MR. AND SECONDED BY MR. JOHNSON.

SEE IF, UH, EVERYBODY WOULD GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON, UH, UM, HAVING MR. WASHINGTON SPEAK AT, UH, THE VETERAN'S DAY.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AND THE NAYS HAVE THE SAME, RIGHT? YEAH.

I, I, HOLD ON .

HOLD ON TIME.

OKAY.

SO, ANY QUESTIONS? NO, BUT I, I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I DON'T, I, I DON'T THINK IT WAS ANYBODY DIDN'T WANT HIM TO SPEAK.

I THINK IT WAS, UM, JUST GIVING OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE OTHER PEOPLE SPEAK.

SO, SO WE'RE ALL IN AGREEANCE THAT MR. MR WON'T BE SPEAKING.

AND THEN, I MEAN, IF, LIKE YOU SAID, IF WE COULD FIND SOMEBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SPEAK AT THE SAME TIME TOO, IS ALWAYS BETTER THAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YEAH.

IT'S JUST, YEAH, BECAUSE, BECAUSE WATCH, HE WORKS 40 HOURS.

HE WORKS FOR 40 HOUR A WEEK.

HE WORKS ON, ON, ON, ON RIGHT PAST BASE.

SO, UH, OKAY.

AND LIKE, AS, AS, UH, MR. GERARD SAID, THE GUY IS AN OUTSTANDING SPEAKER.

AND THE FIRST TIME I HEARD IT WAS LAST WAS THIS YEAR.

HE CAME DOWN TO THE MEMORIAL AND HE, HE, WHERE HE SPOKE DOWN THERE MEMORIAL DAY, AND HE, HE WAS OUTSTANDING.

AND HE, BECAUSE HE'S A, HE WAS ACTIVE DUTY AIR FORCE AND ACTIVE DUTY MARINE.

SO, UH, OKAY.

NICE.

I LIKE THE WAY MR. GERARD WORDED THAT AS PRIMARY SPEAKER.

UH, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE CAN FIND SOMEONE ELSE? YEAH.

WELL, I USED THE WORD PRIMARY SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, MIKE, IT WAS YOUR COMMENT THAT WE CAN PUT SOMEBODY ELSE EXACTLY.

THAT'S ALTERNATE.

SO I'M JUST LEAVING THAT OPEN.

I DON'T THINK HAVING A SECOND SPEAKER IS MANDATORY AT THIS POINT.

YES.

BUT IT, IT, SO THE LANGUAGE INDICATED THAT IT'S POSSIBLE.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND SOMETHING MAY HAPPEN AND MR. WASHINGTON CAN'T DO IT.

AND WE HAVE SOMEONE THERE THAT CAN MURPHY'S LAW.

WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME AS FAR AS SPEAKING MOTION? UH, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE LIMITED BY OR? YEAH.

POINT OF POINT OF ORDER.

THE VERY NEXT ITEM TOUCHES RIGHT ONTO THAT WHOLE AREA ITEM EIGHT C.

OKAY.

AND, AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHY, BECAUSE I'M GONNA TAKE MY AD OFF AND SAY I'M HERE FROM THE YOUNG MARINES, AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT'LL EXPLAIN THAT WHOLE THING.

OKAY.

IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION ON THE, UH, VETERAN'S DAY TASK SPEAKERS AND PASTORS, WE KNOW THAT, UH,

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UH, MR. GERARD IS STILL LOOKING FOR A PASTOR AT THIS TIME.

IS THAT CORRECT? I AM.

AND, UH, I'M SORRY, I JUST THOUGHT I HAD SOMEBODY LOCKED IN, BUT HE SAID, OH, I JUST FOUND OUT MY WIFE THIS AND THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO ARE YOU STILL WILLING TO FIND SOMEBODY? I'M STILL WILLING TO CHARGE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO, BUT IF ANYBODY ELSE IN THE MEANTIME, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY, MAYBE YOU CAN GET ME TO THE GERARD AND, AND YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, AND GIVE HIM A HAND AND SEE IF YOU GOTTA COME UP WITH SOMETHING.

SO, UM, ALSO THAT, UH, UH, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ON THAT.

WE ALSO GOT THE SPEAKER NAILED DOWN FOR THAT.

WE GOT A PRIMARY SPEAKER, THE POSSIBLE SECONDARY SPEAKER WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO, UM, HC, WHICH IS A WRITTEN REQUEST FOR SUPPORT MEMO FOR THE MIAMI VALLEY YOUNG MARINES AND THE WAYNE JUNIOR .

OKAY.

UH, ON THAT SPECIFICALLY, UH, THE MIAMI VALLEY OF MARINES, AND I'LL ALSO SPEAK FOR THE R O T C.

THEY EXPECT TO, THAT THEY ARE INVITED TO SPECIFICALLY PERFORM A MILITARY OPERATION OF SOME KIND, WHETHER IT BE A COLOR GUARD OR A WREATH PRESENTATION, OR NOTHING MORE THAN A, YOU KNOW, A GUARD OF HONOR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT PROPERLY, FIRST OF ALL, UH, THE YOUNG RES EXPECT AN HOUR TO BE ABLE TO PRACTICE WHATEVER, UH, FORMAT WAS DECIDED.

BUT IN ORDER TO PREPARE FOR THAT, THE YOUNG RES, YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL IS THE SCHOOL, BUT THEY HAVE, IT TURNS OUT THAT THEIR PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATE TURN OUT TO BE VOLUNTEERS AND NOT MANDATORY AS WELL AS THE OLD MARINES ARE VOLUNTEERS AND NOT MANDATORY.

AND A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH PARENT COOPERATION WITH DELIVERING PEOPLE.

THE WAY THAT WE GET IT CONFIRMED THOUGH, IS WE GET AN AGENDA AND WE SAY WAY IN ADVANCE THAT WE HAVE THIS WRITTEN REQUEST FROM THE MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION THAT SAYS, AND AND HE SON'S GOT ALL THIS STUFF BACKED UP AND BACK UP.

YES.

PRACTICALLY COPY IT.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY TROUBLE WITH THAT, I GOT THE BACK UP TOO.

OKAY.

AND, UH, IF YOU GO RIGHT DOWN THE THING, OKAY, WE WANT A COLOR GUARD.

WE WANT A WREATH BEAR, WE WANT A GUARD OF HONOR.

WE WANT TAPS.

UH, DON'T ASK US FOR A FIRING PARTY 'CAUSE WE CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE.

'CAUSE HE'S GOT THE RIFLES LOCKED UP AND HE WON'T GIVE IT TO ME.

.

OKAY.

OH, DID I SAY THAT? I'M SORRY.

UH, OKAY.

WELL SEE WHAT I'M SAYING.

WE NEED TO KNOW THE, THE PROGRESSION AND THE TIME AND SO FORTH.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UH, SINCE WE'VE BEEN PRETTY REGULARLY SCREWED IN, IN CASE OF WEATHER, I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN, IT'S ALWAYS RAIN RAINING.

I KNOW IT DOES, BUT THAT, WELL, SOME CONSIDERATION OUGHT TO BE GIVEN THIS YEAR TO, UH, UH, BAD WEATHER PROVISIONS OF SOME KIND.

NOW IT, THE EASY ONE IS IF THERE'S LIGHTNING, IT'S OFF.

YOU KNOW, UH, IA WILL HAVE TO WITHDRAW ALL THE YOUNG MARINES IF THERE'S LIGHTNING.

OKAY.

AND I ASSUME COLONEL RED WOULD HAVE TO DO THE SAME.

BY THE WAY, DID YOU ALL KNOW THAT COLONEL REDWOOD LAST YEAR WAS THIS YEAR FOR THE R O T C? SO, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE ASKING WHAT HAPPENS FIRST AND SECOND.

IT'S DRIVEN BY THE AGENDA, AND THEN THE ACTUAL COMPLETION OF THE AGENDA ITEMS HAS TO DO WITH THE ABILITY OF THE YOUNG MARINES AND THE R O T C TO RESPOND WITH ADEQUATE PERSONNEL AND TO BE TRAINED IN HOW, HOW THE, UH, ACTION GOES.

AND IT, IT'S A REAL PROBLEM FOR THE STAFF OFFICERS, BECAU, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BEG MANY CASES, YOU KNOW, BUT IT, IT, UH, IT'LL WORK.

SO THE AGENDA'S ALREADY SET, OR NO, THAT, NO.

WELL, ACCORDING TO IF I WAS SITTING BACK HERE AS THE YOUNG MARINE, I HAD NO IDEA THAT YOU WON US.

'CAUSE THERE'S NOTHING IN WRITING.

SO, SO I'M PLAYING ROLLING.

NO, NO.

I MEAN, SO THERE HAD BEEN, AND THEN ASKED, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, DEAR YOUNG, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME AND HELP US ACCOMPLISH THIS AGENDA? DEAN WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO THIS, THIS, AND THIS.

OKAY.

SPECIFICALLY, AND THAT, AND THAT WAY, UH, WE, WE PUT OUT A A, IT IS LIKE A BROADCAST ANNOUNCEMENT ASKING EVERYBODY TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.

OKAY.

SO I THINK THAT CAN BE DONE IN, IN TWO PARTS.

RIGHT? SO FIRST REQUEST THAT THEY PARTICIPATE AND THEN WE CAN SIT DOWN WITH YOU OR, OR THEN NO, YOU GOTTA PUT IT IN THE REQUEST LETTER.

YES.

UM, I'M SAYING YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL FORM LETTER THAT YOU USED FOR THAT.

I DON'T HAVE A FORM LETTER.

YOU HAVE THE FORM LETTER.

OKAY.

IF YOU CAN'T FIND IT, CALL ME BECAUSE I GOT THE OLD ONES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

WELL, I'LL GET WITH HIM.

ACTUALLY, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, I KNOW KEON WAS TALKING ABOUT IT

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LAST WEEK.

YES.

JUST WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO INFORMALLY.

YES.

AND I KNOW HE'S GOT 'EM.

OKAY.

SO GET WITH HIM FOR A SECOND.

SO IT IS THE SAME THING HAS TO BE DONE WITH THE, WITH THE JUNIOR O T C.

THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS.

YEAH.

THEY HAVE TO AND THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE A FORM ALSO, RIGHT? BE THE SAME.

DO THEY HAVE A FORM ALSO LIKE THE YOUNG MARINES DOES? IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU WANT IT RUN.

OKAY.

UH, USUALLY IF YOU GET BOTH OF US, YOU WANT, YOU DON'T WANT 'EM TO COME AND DO NOTHING.

YES.

I MEAN, YOU'VE ASKED THEM.

YES.

SO, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT BE THE COLOR GUARD THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE COLOR GUARD, THERE'S FLAG RAZORS.

YES.

THERE'S WREATH BEARING, THERE'S GUARD OF HONOR.

I MEAN, YOU, YOU CAN, YOU CAN ENVE IF, IF YOU WERE REALLY FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU COULD REALLY EMBELLISH THE CEREMONIES A LITTLE BIT WITH A COUPLE OF LITTLE SIDELINE, WHAT I CALL SIDELINE FORMATIONS OF SOME KIND.

OKAY.

SO IF I HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG MARINES, I LINE 'EM UP ON THE SIDE AS A QUOTE, HONOR REGARD.

SO IS THERE, I MEAN, JUST CURIOUS, CURIOSITY.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND FROM THE GOVERNMENT BACKGROUND AND 30 YEARS IN GOVERNMENT AND NO MILITARY BASICALLY IS, I MEAN, SO I UNDERSTAND, I GUESS HELP US ALL UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT, RAY IS IN THE SENSE OF IS THERE A PARTICULAR FORM MEMO, SET POINT, UM, IS THERE A FORMALITY THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE GIVE A QUICK SET, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE S O P OF WHAT'S REQUIRED.

THE ONLY CRITERIA WE REQUIRE IS A WRITTEN REQUEST SAYING, PLEASE SHOW UP IN THE DATE AND TIME.

THE MEMO SECOND.

SECOND IS WHAT YOU WANT US TO DO.

OKAY.

SO, SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAD TO HAVE WRITTEN REQUESTS AND THEN AGENDA THAT SPECIFICALLY WE'RE GOING TO, BUT WE NEED PERFORM THE AGENDA WILL ACTUALLY ACTUALLY DRIVE THAT FOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE ITEM.

I'LL JUST SAY A NUMBER 13, IT SAYS BRING THE REEF BEAR, UH, BRING THE WREATH FORWARD TO, SO, OKAY, I GOT YOU.

THAT'S THE THING THAT REQUIRES A COUPLE OF, YOU KNOW, YOUNG MARINES.

YES.

YOU KNOW, CARRYING THE, CARRYING THE WREATH FORMALLY AND SO FORTH.

OKAY.

SO, SO WE WILL, UH, TO, TO FIND ONE THAT UP WE TRANSLATED INTO WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, WHY, HOW.

OKAY.

THAT'S HOW WE TRANSLATE IT.

SO THE CEREMONY DYNAMICS FOR THE VETERANS, IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM MEMORIAL DAY? ARE THEY GONNA DO DIFFERENT TASKS OR IS IT THE SAME? UH, IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT.

IT, YES, IT IS A, A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM MEMORIAL DAY IN, IN THAT, UH, IT, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT KIND OF SPEAKER.

PROBABLY IN MEMORIAL DAY THEY HAD A LOT MORE SPEAKERS AND, YOU KNOW, AND AT THE TIME THE TIMEFRAME WAS A LITTLE BIT WIDER BECAUSE IT WAS NICE WEATHER.

AND I, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, I MEAN, IN THE PAST, AND MY APOLOGIES BECAUSE I HAVEN'T ATTENDED THEM OTHER THAN THE PAST MEMORIAL, DO THEY DO THE SAME ROUTINE EVERY VETERAN'S DAY AND THE SAME ROUTINE EVERY WEEK? PRETTY MUCH.

YEP.

SO SHOULD BE PRETTY SIMPLE WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

THE ONLY THING WE'VE DROPPED IS THE FIRING PARTY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, SO WE REALLY JUST NEED REQUEST THE ITINERARY, BASICALLY.

YEAH.

THE PREVIOUS, YEAH.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT MIKE SAID, IT WAS A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE THAT'S ALREADY A TEMPLATE.

IS THERE AN MC FOR THIS? MAYBE A DUMB QUESTION THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE TIMELINE THAT'S NOT BEEN DEVELOPED.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, COMING UP, I'M SURE MAYBE EVERY YEAR, LIKE WHERE WE'RE GETTING AHEAD OURSELVES IN A SENSE OF, UM, RIGHT NOW WHERE WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THEM.

UM, WE'RE JUST NOT GETTING INTO THE CHAIR.

SO IN THE YEARS PAST WE'VE KIND OF BEEN LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA GET THIS DONE.

SO I THINK TO RAISES POINT SOMEWHAT, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS WE WANT TO BE MORE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET AS A GROUP TO BE MORE ORGANIZED, TO GET THE YOUNGER INVOLVED SO THEY HAVE MORE LEEWAY TO SAY, WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS, HERE'S HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

AND IF EVERYONE'S, IS THAT, IS I WRONG WITH THAT? NO, YOU'RE TO CONFIRM THAT WE'RE HAVING A, UH, WHOLE WEEKEND SYMPOSIUM COMING UP IN A, IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS FROM NOW WHERE WE'RE SPECIFICALLY GONNA TRAIN IN MEMORIAL AND PARADE PROCEDURES.

SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, LOT OF THINGS.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE BOOT CAMP IN A WAY, IF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING YOU COULD COME THE TO.

OKAY, MR. CHAIR, DO WE HAVE, UH, COPIES OF OUR OLD, UH, MEMORIAL DAY AGENDA? UH, NO, I'M ASKING, I'M ASKING DOES THE CITY MAINTAIN COPIES THAT, THAT, UM, DON I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.

I KNOW THAT, I KNOW THAT KAYSON, HE HAS THAT KIND OF STUFF.

I KNOW THAT HE HAS IT.

OKAY.

I PERSONALLY DOESN'T, DON'T HAVE THAT.

DOES THE CITY OUR COPIES OF IT? IT'S AVAILABLE.

YEAH.

MAYBE WE RESEND THOSE OUT AND THEN YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT FOR NEXT TIME.

WE'LL WORK ON THAT.

SO, OKAY.

SO YOU'LL GET AN IDEA OF WHAT, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

THE EASY WAY IS TO GET AHOLD OF KEITH.

LET HIM SEND YOU SOME STUFF I CAN AND, AND THEN IF HE CAN'T SEND YOU ANYTHING, CALL ME AND I'LL SEND YOU WHAT HE SENT ME.

BASICALLY I'LL TO, AND YOU CAN BELIEVE YOU NEVER HEARD FROM ME P PROCEDURES AND WALKTHROUGHS.

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AND I, I TAKE COPIES OF ALL THAT.

'CAUSE I RUN INTO THIS ALL THE TIME.

I MEAN, IT IS THE BASIC TEMPLATE OF WHAT THEY DO.

EVERY VETERAN DAY CEREMONY.

IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE ALL THE ONLY THING MISSING IS THE FORMAL REQUEST, RIGHT? YES.

THAT'S THE GUESS.

OKAY.

THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

WE'VE JUST GOT PLUG IN THE LITTLE PARK.

WE NEED A SPEAKER.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO STUFF LIKE THAT PASTOR WE HAVE ALREADY.

YEAH.

SO, OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

NEXT WORD OF BUSINESS IS, UH, NEW BUSINESS.

ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? I HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS JUST AS, UM, IN TALKING WITH TONY ROGERS, WHO'S OUR, UH, CLERK OF COUNSEL, UM, A, UM, INVITATION HAS BEEN SENT OUT TO ALL COMMISSION MEMBERS.

UM, FRIDAY IS THE DUE DATE FOR THAT R S V P.

UM, THE DINNER IS SEPTEMBER, I BELIEVE, 23RD.

UM, I WOULD, I MEAN, DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT EXACTLY, BUT I'M ALMOST POSITIVE OF THAT UHHUH.

UM, BUT, UM, IF YOU COULD R S V P FOR THAT BY FRIDAY, UM, GUESTS ARE WELCOME.

UM, FOR THE EVENT.

IT'S DONE AT THE, UH, F O P CALL ON POWER ROAD, UM, SEPTEMBER 23RD, I BELIEVE.

SEPTEMBER 13TH.

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOARD? 13.

OKAY.

YEAH.

BUT YEAH, UM, IF YOU COULD, UM, RVB FOR THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

13.

SO WE KNOW IT'S, YEAH.

OKAY.

WHAT IS THIS FOR? IT'S THE VOLUNTEER.

BASICALLY THE CITY EVERY YEAR HAS A, A ANNUAL EVENT OF A VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION FOR, FOR CITYWIDE BOARD COMMISSIONS.

I GOT, I GOT THAT.

YEAH.

BUT IF YOU COULD, YOU, YOU KNOW, P TO ATTEND, PLEASE LET HIM KNOW.

.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UH, WE HAVE TWO, UH, WHO DO WE GET IN CONTACT AGAIN? I GOTTA MAKE SURE I LOOK AT MY, UH, TONY ROGERS.

OKAY.

MR. ROGER.

OH, OKAY.

COURT COUNSEL.

OKAY.

YEP.

OR, OR KAREN FOUT, ONE OF THE OTHER.

THEY CAN, OR YOU CAN EMAIL ME AND AND I'LL GIVE IT TO THEM AS WELL.

YEAH.

F Y I, I CALLED KAREN AND ASKED HER WHAT THE UNI, WHAT THE DRESS CODE WAS.

YOU CAN WEAR A BUSINESS CASUAL OR IF YOU WANT TO, YOU CAN WEAR WHAT YOU'RE WEARING TO THAT.

WELL, US GUYS, YOU CAN WEAR A UNIFORM SHIRT.

YOU GOTTA BE IN THE SUIT IF YOU WILL.

NO, I DON'T KILLED, I'M GONNA BE IN FIRE DEPARTMENT UNIFORM ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE TO, TO TALK ABOUT, I JUST KIND OF WANT MAKE A RELEASE OF THIS.

SEPTEMBER 15TH IS, UM, P O W M I A DAY, UM, NATIONAL RECOGNITION OF THAT.

SO, UM, I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT DAY TO RECOGNIZE FOR US ALL BE VETERANS.

UM, THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAVE FOR ANY KIND OF NEW BUSINESS OTHER THAN THE PAVERS.

UM, UM, ARE YOU SAYING IS THAT THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE STAND DOWN SEPTEMBER 15TH? WELL, I GOT, I GOT, THERE'S AN ITEM, UM, NINE C.

IS THAT THE SAME THING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS NINE C? YOU GOT, I THINK HE'S TALKING ABOUT NINE D.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT NINE D YOU KNOW, NINE C? YES, HE'S RIGHT.

OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

SO YOU KIND OF SKIPPED OVER NINE.

YEAH, I DIDN'T KNOW.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT LY HAD INCLUDED THAT.

I APOLOGIZE.

HOW ABOUT NINE BRAVO.

WHAT ABOUT, YES.

SO FOR, UM, MILITARY APPRECIATE NIGHT, UH, WE ALL SEEN THE EMAIL THAT WE GOT SENT.

UM, I'VE CONTACTED, UH, THE INDIVIDUAL SENT THE EMAIL.

THE, UM, YOUNG LADY, I'M SUPPOSED TO GET IN CONTACT WITH HER, KNOW THAT I'LL BE THERE TO REPRESENT THE MILITARY MAIN INDIVIDUAL BOARD.

SO I'VE ALREADY TOLD HER I DID LAST YEAR THAT I WOULD GO AHEAD AND DO IT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

I NEED TO KNOW WHAT INFORMATION I NEEDED SHE NEEDED FROM ME.

SO I'M WAITING FOR HER TO RESPOND BACK WITH THE EMAIL.

UM, IN THE MEANTIME, IF NEED BE, I CAN GO TALK TO UH, UH, LIEUTENANT COLONEL THERE AT THE, THE, AT AT AT J ROT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TO SEE IF, IF HE NEEDS ANYTHING FROM ME AS WELL, BUT SHE WAS THE, SHE'S THE CONTACT PERSON.

SO I'M GONNA GIVE WITH HER FIRST BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER THAN THAT.

SO I JUST WANTED EVERYBODY KNOW THAT I, I'VE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF THAT.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS DID YOU WANNA COME WITH ME? OKAY.

I'LL, I SPOTTED I SENT AN EMAIL THERE.

YEAH, I'M GOOD.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR SENDING THAT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

HE HIGHLIGHTED EVERYTHING SO WE CAN SEE EXACTLY.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO I DID IT LAST YEAR, SO I WANNA GO AHEAD AND DO IT AGAIN.

AND I HAD A GREAT TIME LAST YEAR.

I, I MET A LOT OF PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.

WE TOOK PICTURES ALL TOGETHER, ALL THE MILITARY PEOPLE TOGETHER, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A, THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHERE EVERYBODY SUPPOSED TO BE AT ONE AT THE SAME TIME AT FIRST.

BUT I GUESS FEEL THAT THIS YEAR WILL BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAT THEY WENT THROUGH THE HEADACHES LAST YEAR.

SO, YEAH.

AND I AGREE WITH TONY.

I WAS THERE ALSO LAST YEAR AND IT, IT WAS A, A VERY NICE FUNCTION.

YES.

AND, AND I GOT GIVE CREDIT TO THE, THE WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL COACHES.

YES.

I MEAN, THEY'D COME OVER, THIS WAS BEFORE THEIR GAME EVEN.

THEY, THEY WERE WARMING UP WITH THEIR PLAYERS, BUT THEY TOOK ENOUGH TIME TO COME THE, ALL, ALL THE VETERANS THAT WERE THERE.

AND THEN THEY, THEY SHOOK OUR HAND.

AND I, I WAS QUITE IMPRESSED WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST MINUTES PRIOR TO KICKOFF.

YES.

THEY WERE, YOU THINK ABOUT, I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH MOST OF 'EM, SO WE ALL PLAY BALL TOGETHER.

SO IT WAS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, FOR THEM TO COME OVER AND STAY HI AND TALK TO 'EM FOR A WHILE, IT WASN'T NICE.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT TO, THEY DID TAKE THE TIME TO COME OVER.

THEY

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DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

MM-HMM.

TOOK THE KIND TO COME OVER.

EVEN THE PLAYERS WERE APPRECIATIVE THAT WE WERE THERE, SO, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT WAS, IT WAS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT WAS, IT WAS TOUCHING REALLY.

IT WAS.

SO, AND I'LL, I'LL LET HER KNOW.

I'LL EMAIL HER AND GIVE YOU YOUR NAME AND THEN I'LL FIND OUT WHAT INFORMATION WE NEED AND I'LL GET IN CONTACT WITH YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND I'LL GIVE HER YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS AS WELL.

OR I'LL HAVE YOU, I'LL GIVE YOU HER SCRIPT, HOWEVER YOU WANNA DO, AND THEN JUDGE, WE'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN.

SO, ALRIGHT.

APPRECIATE IT.

ALRIGHT.

.

YES.

THAT'S, THAT'LL BE, YEAH.

YES, YES.

THAT'LL BE COMING UP.

SO, UM, IT'LL BE, UH, NEXT, NEXT FRIDAY.

NOW THIS FRIDAY'S GAME, BUT THE FOLLOWING FRIDAY'S GAME.

OKAY.

UM, THE NEXT ON AGENDA IS, UH, NINE C, WHICH IS A STAND DOWN, THE ANNUAL STAND DOWN.

YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD BROUGHT UP BEFORE I, AND THEN, SO, AND THEN I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE P O W M I A DAYS.

WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT IF I MAY.

MR. CHAIR? YES, SIR.

WAIT, IS EVERYBODY, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STAND DOWN AND WHAT IT, WHAT IT IS OR WHAT IT'S ABOUT? DOES ANYBODY KNOW? WHAT DOES ANYBODY, DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THE STAND DOWN IS? SO WHAT, SO WHAT WE DO AT THE VA IS, I'VE, I'VE DONE IT FOR THE LAST SO MANY YEARS NOW, THEY HAVE WHAT'S CALLED AN ANNUAL STAND DOWN.

UM, UH, VOLUNTEERS COME IN, UM, FROM EITHER HEALTH ADMINISTRATIONS.

UM, THERE'LL BE SOMEBODY THERE TO BE ABLE TO HELP, UH, VETERANS WITH, UH, THINGS SUCH AS, UH, EXAMS, UM, UM, GETTING, UM, THEIR, THEIR, UM, THEIR PERCENTAGES, THEIR RATINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO BE ABLE HELP 'EM WITH THAT.

THERE'S PEOPLE THERE FROM HEALTHCARE SERVICES.

THERE'LL BE PEOPLE THERE FROM MY GROUP, FROM, FROM MENTAL HEALTH.

UM, THERE'LL BE A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT PLACES THEY GET STOPPED AT.

SO WHAT THEY DO IS, UM, NOW THAT IT'S NOT COVID, I'M, I'M HOPING THAT IT'LL GO BACK TO THE WAY THAT IT USED TO BE LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF IT COVID.

BUT IT WAS, EVERYBODY JUST DROVE UP INSTEAD.

AND THEY GIVE YOU, UM, WE, WE MAKE, UM, BACKPACK AHEAD OF TIME.

IT HAS PERSONAL HYGIENE ITEMS IN IT.

AND BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WEREN'T ABLE TO SET UP THEIR STATIONS, ALL THE INFORMATION THEY NEEDED ABOUT GETTING THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEEDED WERE IN, WERE IN A FOLDER AND THEY WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING.

SO WE GAVE 'EM ALL THE INFORMATION THEY NEEDED.

YOU GET SOCKS AND, YOU KNOW, BEFORE, IN THE PAST, UM, BEFORE COVID, YOU WOULD GET, THEY ACTUALLY GAVE AWAY SLEEPING BAGS AND BOOTS AND JACKETS AND, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THEY DO, THEY DO ALL THAT STUFF AND IT IS REALLY A BIG DEAL.

AND IT'S, IT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY REWARDING.

UM, UM, I LOVE PARTICIPATING IN EVERY YEAR, YOU KNOW, SO, AND THEY USUALLY DRIVE THROUGH AND IT IS, THEY GUIDE YOU ALL THE WAY THROUGH, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THEY AIN'T GIVE YOU A WHOLE THING OF GROCERIES, YOU KNOW, IT IS THE SAME THING, BUT ALONG WITH THE BACKPACK FULL OF GOOD, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THE PERSONAL HYGIENE ITEMS AND THE INFORMATION.

THEY ALSO, UH, GIVE YOU, GIVE YOU, UH, GROCERY ITEMS AS WELL.

IT'S LIKE GOING TO, UM, A FOOD, A FOOD BANK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT THE SAME TIME.

SO, AND THAT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE VA GROUND THAT THE VA, THERE'LL BE SIGNS, THERE'LL BE SIGNS AND INDIVIDUALS STANDING IN DIFFERENT PLACES TO DIRECT YOU WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO.

SO IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY THAT'S INTERESTED IN COMING, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THEY GET THERE A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAN 11.

'CAUSE THE LINE WILL GET LONG AND IT GETS LONG FAST.

DO YOU PARTICIPATE? OH YEAH, I DO IT.

I DO IT EVERY YEAR.

SO, WELL, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I START MY JOB HERE SOON, SO, UM, AT THE VA, SO I'M NOT SURE IF I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO, USUALLY THEY LET US DO THINGS LIKE THAT, ESPECIALLY AS SOCIAL WORKERS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING ANYWAY.

SO, UM, I'M HOPING I GET TO PARTICIPATE IN AGAIN THIS YEAR.

IT ALL DEPENDS.

I MIGHT HAVE TO, YOU KNOW.

YES, SIR.

SO SINCE WE'RE KIND OF BEYOND COVID, ARE THEY DOING IT DIFFERENTLY NOW VERSUS DRIVING? IS IT LIKE, WELL, WELL I'LL FIND, I'LL FIND THAT OUT AND I REALLY MENTION ANYBODY, SO, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA BE ONE GONNA DRIVE THROUGH AGAIN OR, OKAY.

BEFORE IT WAS IN, UH, UH, WHAT'S THAT BUILDING? WAS THAT 3 0 3 RIGHT THERE? UH, WHERE THE GYM IS AND ALL THAT RIGHT THERE.

UM, I CAN THINK OF THE GUN BEFORE IT WAS THERE AND PEOPLE COULD WALK IN, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? HAD A GYMNASIUM AND THEN THEY HAD EVERYTHING UP ON THE, ON THE ACTUAL, ON THE, UM, STAGE WHERE YOU CAN COME DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, WALK DOWN AND GET THE THING THAT YOU NEED.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT STATIONS WHERE AVAILABLE, BUT OKAY.

BECAUSE OF COVID, LIKE I SAID BEFORE.

SO I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

I HAVEN'T BEEN UP TO THE VA IN, IN PROBABLY ABOUT A MONTH NOW, SO, OKAY.

UM, YES SIR.

MR. JAR.

OKAY, WELL, UH, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T CATCH THIS ON THE AGENDA.

THIS NEEDS A SLIGHT CORRECTION.

FIRST OF ALL, THE P O W M I A DAY AT VIETNAM PARK ACTUALLY COMMENCES IS, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S ON A SATURDAY AND ACTUALLY STARTS AROUND NOON.

AND I WILL TELL YOU FROM EXPERIENCE, IF YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO PARK THERE, YOU BETTER BE THERE BY 11.

SO, SO NINE, 9:00 AM TIME IS WRONG.

IS NOON.

OKAY? HERE'S HOW IT'S GONNA WORK.

THE WHOLE THING IS REALLY ORCHESTRATED BY ROLLING THUNDER CHAPTER 10.

AND THEY'VE CALLED IN ROLLING THUNDER FROM AN ALL ACROSS THE STATE OF OHIO.

AND THERE'S PEOPLE COMING FROM ALL ACROSS THE STATE OF OHIO.

THERE'S EXPECTED TO BE A LOT OF MEDIA PRESENCE.

SO IF YOU ARE GONNA SHOW, PLEASE SHOW IN YOUR UNIFORM SHIRTS.

AND, UH, WHAT'LL HAPPEN IS THAT THE ROLLING THUNDER BEGINS THEIR DAY AT NINE O'CLOCK AT THE VA AND THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON SATURDAY MORNING V I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, BUT THEY WILL BE LEAVING, WHICH GIVES ME A LITTLE HEARTBURN.

THEY'LL BE LEAVING ON OR

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ABOUT ENOUGH TIME TO GET THERE BY NOON.

THEY WEREN'T VERY PRECISE ABOUT IT.

SO, BUT SO WE'RE, WE'RE HURRY UP, WE'RE HURRY UP.

AND, BUT THEN THE ENTIRE, THE ENTIRE COMPLIMENT OF MOTORCYCLES IS GONNA DRIVE FROM THE VA TO VIETNAM PARK.

ALRIGHT? AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THERE'S, THERE'S GOING TO BE A CEREMONY THAT'S YET TO BE FLESHED OUT, RIGHT, TOM? CORRECT.

YEAH.

SO, UH, BUT IT WILL BE, WELL, WELL, WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE AS THIS, YOU KNOW, THE BIG, YOU'VE BEEN TO VIETNAM PARK, MOST OF YOU, OKAY.

YEAH.

YOU GOTTA GOT THE BIG, BIG FLAG POLES, THE PERMANENT MM-HMM.

, THE YOUNG MARINES WILL RAISE THE FLAG ON THE FLAG POLE AND THEY'LL BE THE SPEAKERS AFTER THAT, THE YOUNG MARINES WILL PROVIDE A COLOR GUARD AND WREATH BEAR AND THEY'LL MARCH DOWN TO THE BRIDGE WITH THE WREATH, WILL THROW THE WREATH IN THE WATER AND MARCH BACK.

AND THEN, UH, ONE OF THE YOUNG MARINES WILL PLAY TAPS ONCE THE WREATH IS THROWN INTO THE WATER.

BUT THERE'S A, THERE'S A, A GROUP OF SPEAKERS AND I DON'T THINK THE AGENDA IS QUITE YET FLESHED OUT TO SAY WHO THEY ARE.

RIGHT.

AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SAY.

RIGHT.

SO WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THAT.

NOW, THE TWO, THE TWO PRINCIPAL, UH, PEOPLE ON THAT ARE, IF YOU ALL YOU'LL KNOW MARK KORSKI, WHO, WHO RUNS VIETNAM, HE'S A VIETNAM VET.

HE RUNS VIETNAM PARK QUITE A BIT.

HE'S ONE, AND THE OTHER GUY IS THE, UH, VICE PRESIDENT, I'M NOT SURE.

WELL, ANYWAY, HE'S THE VICE, I THINK HE'S THE VICE PRESIDENT OF, OF CHAPTER 10.

ROLLING THUNDER.

REAL NICE GUY.

NICKNAME IS SHREK.

SO, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO GET THAT STRAIGHTENED OUT NOW FROM A YOUNG MARINE POINT OF VIEW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO THAT DAY.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA TRAIN AT OUR SYMPOSIUM.

SO, SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

SO EVERYBODY, DOES EVERYBODY KNOW WHERE THE VIETNAM VETERAN PARK IS AT? FIRST OF ALL, IF NOT JUST, I MEAN, SO, SO WE KNOW, SO WHAT, IT'S RIGHT THERE.

THE CORNER OF STEWART AND PATTERSON.

PATON PATTERSON, RIGHT, RIGHT IN THE RIVER.

RIGHT THERE.

YOU GO DOWN THERE AND THERE'S LIKE A SLICE OF PIE LIKE THIS.

YES.

SO YOU'RE GOING DOWN PATTERSON AND YOU, YOU, YOU DO A 320 DEGREE TURN AND COME UP THAT ROAD AND YOU'RE RIGHT THERE.

YEAH.

AND THAT, THAT'S, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY VETERANS.

IT'S CALLED VIETNAM PARKWAY THAT RUNS ALONG, IT RUNS ALONG THE RIVER AND THEN PAT RUNS OFF IT AND STEWART RUNS THIS WAY TOO.

LIKE, SO THE V WHERE THE POINT OF IT WOULD BE WOULD BE STUART STEWART RUNS OFF OF IT.

SO IF YOU JUST, HEY, WE ALL KNOW YOU CAN GOOGLE IT, IT'LL COME UP SO YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE IT IS.

IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR, I WON'T THROW AWAY IN ONE EXTRA FACTOR.

IT IS EXPECTED THAT THERE'LL BE A LOT OF MEDIA COVERAGE.

IT, IT WILL AND IT'LL BE A LOT OF MOTORCYCLE TOO.

WEAR YOUR SHIRTS.

WHO UM, WHO WOULD YOU CONTACT IF YOU WANTED TO BE A PART OF THE BIKER, PART OF THE BIKER, THE BIKE RIDER? WELL, I CAN GIVE YOU, I CAN SOON AS WAY ADJOURN.

I CAN GIVE YOU A NUMBER CALL, BUT, UH, BUT BE, BE, BE.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, THEY'RE ALL IN, THEY'RE ALL IN ROLLING THUNDER UNIFORM THOUGH.

I'LL TELL YOU THAT.

WEAR SOME THUNDER.

YEAH, WEAR YOUR COLORS SUIT.

THEY ALL WEAR, THEY ALL HAD THE ROLLING THUNDER VESTS AND LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, YOU CAN CALL 'EM, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU THE NUMBER I'LL TALK TO.

OKAY.

UH, THERE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU SIR, FOR YOUR INFORMATION.

I APPRECIATE IT.

EVERYBODY'S INPUT.

SO, UH, JUST SO WE ALL UNDERSTAND, UM, UM, THEY'LL BE GOING FROM THE VA 9:00 AM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME THEY'RE GONNA GET THERE, BUT THE PAST START ACTUALLY THE VA, THE WAY HE JUST SAYS, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO LEAVE ON TIME TO BE THERE BY NO ON OR ABOUT NOON.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT IS DONE.

WASTE.

IT'S GONNA BE, YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE A TEST.

OKAY.

SO, AND THEN WE KNOW ABOUT THE STAND DOWN NOW AND I'LL FIND OUT IF IT'S GONNA BE A DRIVE THROUGH AGAIN THIS YEAR.

UM, AND THE PROCESS I WILL GET WITH YLE ABOUT THE MILITARY PREACHING NIGHT FOR YOU.

SO, OKAY.

UM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT THE MILITARY PAPER APPLICATION THAT YOU WANTED TO PASS ON TO US? JUST THAT I KNOW WE, WE MENTIONED IT LAST TIME.

UM, I WOULD LIKE THEM FROM THE COMMISSION.

WE BASICALLY HAVE 13 PAPERS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE, HAVE, UM, PAID FOR THEM.

AND THEN, LIKE I SAID LAST TIME, I WANT TO KIND OF GET THOSE IN ORDER.

BUT, UM, I THINK, UH, MOVING FORWARD WE NEED TO SET, I'M GONNA BASICALLY PUT THESE 13 IN HERE.

UM, I KIND OF WANT TO DEADLINE OUR INPUT FROM Y'ALL.

YES.

AS FAR AS AS WHEN LIKE WE'RE CUTTING HER OFF VETERAN'S DAY, THEY GET PUT IN, SO THEN WE GET A CUT OFF.

BASICALLY I WANT TO MAKE IT LIKE THE MILITARY S PROGRAM.

LIKE HERE'S YOUR CUTOFF TO GET IT IN BY THIS TIME BECAUSE UM, UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT BEEN, IS PARTICIPATING AS POSSIBLE.

YES.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE GET SOME IN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BUT THEN WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT LOOKING AT DEADLINES AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, ONCE A YEAR THAT THEY GET PUT ON OR

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YOU KNOW, THE DEADLINE COMES HERE SO I CAN ORGANIZE GETTING THEM PUT IN.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO DO.

LIKE I THINK IT SHOULD BE THE ANNUAL TODAY.

IT SHOULD BE ANNUAL.

OKAY.

THEN YOU WANNA DO ONE MEMORIAL THEN ONES THE BEDROOM TIME VETERAN DAY OR .

WELL, LET'S NOT DOING THAT, BUT I THINK THIS SHOULD BE DIFFERENT AND I WOULD SAY THAT'S, THAT'S THE COMMISSION FOR THEM TO CONSIDER.

UM, RIGHT NOW I'M GONNA GET THE 13 THAT WE HAVE IN MM-HMM.

.

BUT AGAIN, KNOW THAT IT'S COMING OUT THAT I'M GETTING 13.

I GOT 13 AND I'M NOT COMING ANYMORE FOR ARE YOU, SO YOU ALREADY, THAT'S ALREADY SETTLED.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA TAKE ANY MORE THAN JUST THE 13 RIGHT NOW? NO, NO, NO.

I'LL, BUT IT JUST, BECAUSE I GOTTA WORK ON GETTING SOMEBODY TO, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM IS GETTING MASONRY WORK IS, IS YES.

IS IT'S LIKE THIS ONE.

YES.

YES IT IS.

SO WHAT'S THE COST? WEATHER? IS WEATHER A FACTOR? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO ASK.

WEATHER'S A FACTOR OF COURSE.

YES.

SO WE, WE, WE, WE BE LOOKING AT WEATHER, WE WOULD WANT TO GET THAT IN AND DONE SOMETIME, MAYBE SUMMER? NO, NO MORE THAN LATE FALL.

OKAY.

OCTOBER.

MM-HMM.

WHAT'S THE PRICE OF THE PAVER? UH, I I WHAT WAS THE JUNE TIME? I CAN'T REMEMBER NOW.

I CAN'T REMEMBER.

YOU KNOW, LIKE IT'S NO BIG DEAL.

I'LL GIVE YOU A FLYER.

YES.

IT'S ON THE WEBSITE.

IT'S ON WEBSITE.

IT'S ON THE WEBSITE.

WEBSITE.

IT'S ON CITY WEBSITE.

SORRY.

OKAY.

UH, IF THAT IS IT, WE'RE AT THE END HERE.

LET SEE.

BIG DEAL.

YEAH, THAT'S, THEY DID CHANGE THE WEBSITE.

IT'S ON, IT'S, IT'S IN PROGRESS OF BEING RECONSTRUCTED.

ALRIGHT, WELL THE TIME NOW IS, UH, HAS ANYBODY GOT ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT ANYTHING BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE ADJOURN? MOVE TO ADJOURNED? SOMEBODY SECOND THAT FOR ME.

TIME NOW IS 1847 HOURS.

UH, WE HAVE ADJOURNMENT FOR THE MILITARY, UH, HUMAN RIGHTS, MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION.

I THANK ALL FOR COMING TODAY.

YOU.