Jun 26, 2023 City Council Meeting

HOW MANY OF YOU KNEW THAT 2022, THE AVERAGE OF THOSE STUDENTS WHO ARE ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED WAS 21 POINT 44% VERSUS ZERO IN 2009? DID YOU ALL KNOW THAT? MM-HMM.

? NO.

OKAY, SO NOT EVERYBODY, HOW MANY OF YOU KNEW THAT THE BETHEL TEACHERS NEEDED TO TRANSLATE FOR FOUR LANGUAGES BEFORE A TEACHER IN YOUR AUDIENCE TOLD YOU THAT DAY? SO SOME OF YOU DID, SOME OF YOU DIDN'T.

IT'S ALREADY AGRICULTURE.

HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT IN 2012 SERVICES FROM THE SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGIST FROM BETHEL WAS NOT RECEIVED FROM SOMEONE INSIDE BETHEL SCHOOLS, BUT ACTUALLY FROM MIAMI COUNTY? AND THE WHY IS THAT, IS BECAUSE DURING THAT TIME THAT SERVICE WAS NOT WITHIN THE SCHOOL.

ALL OF THOSE SERVICES AND MANY WERE DONE THROUGH THE COUNTY.

AND THE PROBLEM IS THAT CUZ THEY DID NOT HAVE THEM, THEY WEREN'T EQUIPPED AND THEY'RE CERTAINLY STILL NOT EQUIPPED.

YOUR MAYOR LIKES TO CONTINUE TO POINT OUT THAT OUR FORMER SUPERINTENDENT, SUPERINTENDENT WANTED TO TAKE THE STUDENTS FROM THIS ANNEXATION BECAUSE THE SCHOOL WANTS THE MONEY.

SOME OF YOU, I'M SURE MANY OF YOU ALREADY KNOW, THAT BY TAKING THE STUDENTS, YOU CAN'T JUST SIMPLY SAY, I GET I'M GONNA TAKE THEM.

YOU HAVE THEM AND YOU GUYS SIMPLY ACCEPT THEM.

THE OHIO BOARD OF EDUCATION HAS TO ALSO ACCEPT THERE ARE RULES THAT HAVE TO DO THAT.

NOT TO MENTION, IF BETHEL WERE NOT TO HAVE THOSE STUDENTS, THEY COULD NEVER DENY ANYTHING FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS.

SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR ANY OTHER ANNEXATIONS? IT'S A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD SETTING.

ALL OF THAT ASIDE, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THAT, NO MATTER THE AMOUNT OF MONEY A DISTRICT COULD RECEIVE, WHETHER IT'S YOURS, WHETHER IT'S BETHEL, NEITHER CAN ADJUST TO THIS INFLUX OF STUDENTS.

NEITHER WOULD SAY IT'S WORTH THE MONEY.

THE DEBACLE THAT CARRIAGE TRAILS HAS CREATED FOR BETHEL SCHOOLS SHOULD AT LEAST SHOW YOU THAT I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR GROWTH.

I REALLY DO.

I KNOW THAT THAT'S HOW CITIES DO GET THEIR GROWTH AND GET THEIR MONIES IN.

BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW ANY OF YOU SITTING UP THERE TODAY CAN APPROVE OF GROWTH WITHOUT TRULY UNDERSTANDING EVERYTHING THAT GOES INTO IT.

AND PEOPLE SHOULD REQUEST THAT.

DOESN'T HUBER HEIGHTS ALREADY HAVE MULTIPLE DEVELOPMENTS WORKING RIGHT NOW? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO ALL OF THEM? DO YOU ALL HAVE THOSE ANSWERS? I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW SOMEONE CAN BLINDLY VOTE TO POACH, AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS FROM ANOTHER COUNTY.

BECAUSE YOU SEE QUICK MONEY WITHOUT REALLY SEEING THE TRUE CONSEQUENCES OF EVERYTHING.

ZONING LAWS ARE THERE FOR A REASON, OTHERWISE EVERYBODY'S GONNA BE ABLE TO BUILD AND DO WHATEVER THEIR HEARTS DESIRES.

NOW, THIS LAND OF AIR ALREADY HAD WATER CAPABILITIES.

IT COULD HAVE BEEN ZONED FOR A HIGHER DENSITY IF IT WENT FROM AGRICULTURE TO THE RESIDENTIAL, RECEIVE THE SERVICE.

SO WHAT EXACTLY IS THE PURPOSE OF THE ANNEXATION? YOU ANNEX IT, THEN YOU HAVE TO CHANGE IT TO RESIDENTIAL.

SO IF YOU KEEP IT AGRICULTURE, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO? WHAT'S YOUR POINT THEN IN ANNEXING? AND I'M JUST GONNA SAY, LET'S BE HONEST, WHY WE HERE TODAY? IT'S NOT BECAUSE SOMEONE LIED OR SOMEONE CHANGED THEIR MIND.

WE ARE HERE BECAUSE OF GREED.

GREED HAS BEEN AT THE CORE OF THIS ENTIRE ANNEXATION.

THE LANDOWNERS DIDN'T WANNA HEAR TO THE RULES OF ZONING.

AND THE DEVELOPERS KNEW THEY COULD EXPLOIT AND PROFIT THROUGH TYPE TWO ANNEXATION.

THAT'S A VERY BIG LOOPHOLE.

THE DEVELOPERS KNOW WHICH CITIES WELCOME THE EASY MONEY, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY KNOW A FEW OF THE COUNCIL.

BUT TRUST THAT THESE SAME DEVELOPERS HAVE NO PROBLEM LEAVING THE CITY AND TOWNSHIP TO CLEAN UP THE CHAOS.

WE'VE SEEN IT.

AND NO DOUBT BASED ON THE LACK OF DUE DILIGENCE I HAVE WITNESSED FROM SEVERAL ON

[00:10:01]

THIS COUNCIL.

THIS IS GOING TO BE CHAOS.

EACH ONE OF YOU SHOULD BE ANALYZING.

I'M NOT JUST SAYING A FEW OR SIDE CONVERSATIONS.

THIS IS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU SHOULD BE TAKING IN ALL OF THE, IN ALL OF THE INFORMATION AND DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR YOUR WARD.

EACH ONE OF YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR OWN MIND AND WILLINGNESS TO STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN WITHOUT BEING, WITHOUT FEAR OF BEING DISPARAGED FOR WHAT YOU'RE FOR DOING.

SO EACH ONE OF YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT FOR HUBER HEIGHTS TO BE KNOWN FOR.

WILL IT BE FOR BEING A GREEDY NEIGHBOR WHO EXPLOITS TOWNSHIPS TO EASILY FUND THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY CANNOT CONCENTRATE ON FINDING OTHER WELL THOUGHT OUT SOLUTIONS FOR YOUR FUNDING? OR WILL IT BE A COMPASSIONATE NEIGHBOR WHO REMEMBERS THEIR OWN PLIGHT WITH THE CITY OF DAYTON AND REALIZE THAT THE BENEFITS OF THIS ANNEXATION DO NOT OUTWEIGH THIS MANY DETRIMENTS? I ESPECIALLY LOOK TO THOSE WHO PERHAPS THOUGHT THIS ANNEXATION WAS A GOOD THING ONLY TO REALIZE THAT THIS IS NOT IN THE CITY'S BEST IN INTEREST.

DO NOT BE AFRAID TO CHANGE YOUR YOUR MIND.

YOU'VE REACHED YOUR DO NOT BE AFRAID.

YOUR NO THANK YOU.

NEXT STOP.

TERRY LUCIA.

SO YES, A REMINDER, WE HAVE SEVERAL COMMENTS, SO PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO FIVE MINUTES OR LESS, PLEASE.

UH, MINE SHOULD BE PRETTY BRIEF.

UM, I SAW A COMMENT, EXCUSE ME, THAT, UH, HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT HEARD FROM ENOUGH HUBER HEIGHTS RESIDENCE AGAINST ANNEXATION.

I'M HERE TO ADD MY VOICE AGAINST THE ANNEXATION OF BETHEL MAYOR GORE.

YOU AND I ARE 100% IN AGREEMENT WHEN ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2021 YOU SAID, I WOULD IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THAT WE SHOULD ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT TO ANNEX ANY PROPERTY UNTIL WE HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO OUR OWN DUE DILIGENCE.

I AM EXPECTING A COST ANALYSIS TO BE DONE SO WE CAN KNOW FOR SURE THAT THIS EVEN MAKES FINANCIAL SENSE RIGHT NOW AS OF SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2021, AND RIGHT NOW OF JUNE 26TH, 2023.

WE DON'T KNOW THAT HUBER HEIGHTS HAS SEEN.

WE DON'T KNOW THAT HUBER HEIGHTS HAS SEEN TREMENDOUS FINANCIAL GROWTH OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

AND OUR CREDIT RATING AS A CITY WAS JUST INCREASED.

THIS IS GOOD NEWS.

I'VE NEVER BEEN AGAINST DEVELOPMENT.

I'M GONNA SAY THAT AGAIN.

I'VE NEVER BEEN AGAINST DEVELOPMENT.

I'M LOOKING FOR DUE DILIGENCE.

THERE IS NOT TO QUOTE MAYOR GORE AGAIN, AND THERE'S NOT EVEN A REMOTE POSSIBILITY.

WE WOULD TAKE A CHANCE AT RISKING THE GAINS WE HAVE WORKED SO HARD TO MAKE.

AND THERE'S NO WAY WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD ON ANY ANNEXATION PROPOSAL WITHOUT THOROUGHLY VETTING EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF THIS.

IF YOU ARE SITTING UP THERE AND YOU ARE WILLING TO VOTE FOR ANNEXATION WITHOUT HAVING DONE THIS DUE DILIGENCE THAT WAS PROMISED TO ALL OF US ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2021, SHAME ON YOU AND IF YOU ARE UP THERE, WHO IS WILLING TO WAIT TO HAVE THIS DUE DILIGENCE DONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT'S IT.

NEXT UP WE HAVE JEFF MOORE FOR IT.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

JEFF MORFORD, BETHEL TOWNSHIP.

UH, IN REGARDS TO THE LOOMING AND ANNEXATION OF WELL OVER 250 MIAMI COUNTY BETHEL TOWNSHIP ACRES, I BELIEVE ANY SENSIBLE AND JUST INDIVIDUAL CAN SEE THIS ANNEXATION IS A PROBLEM THAT CAN BE AVERTED WITH YOUR COUNCIL VOTING NO.

IF YOU AS PARENTS HAD YOUR CHILDREN IN A SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT HAD THE OVERALL PROBLEMS, BETHEL IS FACING, YOU WOULD BE UP IN ARMS. OBVIOUSLY, THE CITIZENS WHO LIVE IN BETHEL TOWNSHIP ARE OPPOSED TO THE ANNEXATION, WHICH IS A THREAT TO OUR LIFESTYLE AND OUR CHOSEN WAY OF LIFE.

IF YOU TAKE THE TIME TO SURVEY YOUR HUBER HEIGHTS CITIZENS, YOU MIGHT FIND MOST ARE HAPPY WITH HUBER AS IS MOST WILL TELL YOU YOU ARE BIG ENOUGH.

MOST WILL TELL YOU THAT TRAFFIC IS HEAVY ENOUGH.

MOST WILL TELL YOU THAT ANNEXATION OF OTHER COMMUNITIES ACRES AGAINST THEIR WILL IS WRONG.

AS WAYNE TOWNSHIP CAN ATTEST TO 40 PLUS YEARS AGO, PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING.

VOTE NO, TELL FUTURE DEVELOPERS.

WE NEED TO DEVELOP LAND WITHIN OUR CITY BOUNDARIES.

[00:15:02]

YOU KNOW THAT ANNEXATION IS MORALLY WRONG.

YOU KNOW THAT ANNEXATION IS ETHICALLY WRONG, MIGHT BE LEGAL.

UH, HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A NICE HOLIDAY BY THE WAY, IT IS KNOWN AS JULY 4TH, ALSO KNOWN AS INDEPENDENCE DAY.

PLEASE ALLOW OUR COMMUNITY TO ENJOY OUR INDEPENDENCE.

PLEASE LET US ENJOY OUR FREEDOM.

PLEASE REMEMBER THE GOLDEN RULE.

DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU.

NEXT UP, JANELLE SMITH.

UM, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS TONIGHT IF I COULD DURING MY FIVE MINUTES.

THE FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY JUST SAY IS IT'S JUST LIKE A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT SINCE NOBODY UP HERE IS DOING THAT.

HUBBARD, UM, IS ON, WAS ON THEIR 19TH WATER MAIN BREAK NOT LONG AGO.

UM, THEY HAD, APPARENTLY THE CITY HAD, UH, PUT OUT A BID FOR THE WORK FOR THE CURBING TO BE DONE.

AND THE PERSON THEY PUT IT OUT FOR A BID SUBCONTRACTED THE WORKOUT AND ALL THE CURBS THAT GOT LAID AROUND HUBBARD AND ALL THE OTHER STREETS IN THAT AREA ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE ALL BE PULLED UP AND REPLACED BECAUSE IT WASN'T DONE BY SPECS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO LET PEOPLE ON WARD FOUR AND THREE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A MESS FOR ANOTHER PROBABLY YEAR, I WOULD IMAGINE.

THAT'S JUST MY GUESS.

THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO COME UP HERE AND TALK TONIGHT IS, UM, I WANTED TO ASK SOME INFORMATION IF I COULD.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THIS COUNCIL AS A WHOLE ENDORSES OR PUBLICLY SUPPORTS THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

DO YOU GUYS ALL SUPPORT AND ENDORSE THE INFORMATION SHARED BY THE MAYOR? NO.

GLEN, DOES THIS COUNCIL ACCEPT THAT THE MAYOR IS THE FACE OF HUBER HEIGHTS, ALONG WITH BEING THE SPOKESPERSON OF HUBER HEIGHTS? YOU GUYS HAVE NOTHING TO SAY TONIGHT, HUH? BECAUSE THE INFORMATION SHARED BY ONLY THE MAYOR, ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE LATEST ON THE ANNEXATION.

WHEREAS RESIDENTS SUCH AS MYSELF OR MY HUSBAND WHO CAN ASK FOR A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST FOR THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS RIGHT HERE IS DENIED.

BUT THE MAYOR IS THE ONLY PERSON THAT CAN PUT OUT INFORMATION.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT, WHAT YOU DIDN'T REALLY ADDRESS IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU CAN TALK ABOUT EMS ALL YOU WANT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS.

WE'RE SITTING WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF OFFICERS THAT WE HAD IN 2002.

UM, THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IS, UM, I'M CONCERNED.

I'M, I'M VERY CONCERNED WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY.

I'M CONCERNED WITH THE ATTACKS THAT THE MAYOR YOURSELF PUT OUT TOWARDS YOUR COLLEAGUES AND TOWARDS PRIVATE RESIDENTS LIKE MYSELF.

UM, IT'S UNACCEPTABLE.

IT'S UNPROFESSIONAL.

IT IS NOT THAT OF A GOOD LEADERSHIP.

IT IS MAKING OUR CITY LOOK REALLY BAD.

WORSE THAN IT EVER HAS.

WHEN A, WHEN THE LEADER OF THIS COMMUNITY CAN GO OUT AND DISPARAGE AND DEMEAN PRIVATE RESIDENTS AND COLLEAGUES, WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM.

AND PROBABLY, I'M GONNA GUESS, MAYBE, IS THAT WHY YOU HAVE TO HIRE CO-COUNSEL TONIGHT? DID THAT GET YOU IN TROUBLE? MAYBE? I DON'T BELIEVE SO, NO.

I ALSO WANNA THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING, UH, MONEY FOR PAY CUZ MY SISTERS WORKED IN HUBER HEIGHTS AND WAS ABLE TO GO TO COLLEGE WITH THAT MONEY THAT YOU PROVIDED.

NEXT.

HEY, LAST UP WE HAVE DONNA HUGHES.

THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR LETTING ME TALK AND HAPPY 4TH OF JULY, OUR INDEPENDENT DAY.

I WANNA THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

I LIKED YOU BEING OUR NEIGHBOR.

WE HAVE BEEN GREAT NEIGHBORS TO EACH OTHER.

I WAS THRILLED WHEN YOU INCORPORATED AND STOPPED THE INVASION OF DAYTON.

I DIDN'T WANT DAYTON PROBLEMS AND NEITHER DID YOU.

[00:20:01]

UH, JOBS.

I DO HAVE A REQUEST.

IF YOU CHOOSE TO ANNEX AT 200 AND SOME ACRES, ALMOST 300 ACRES, WHO WILL YOU PUTTING IN THE WATER? WILL IT BE HUBER OR WILL IT BE THE TAXPAYERS OF BETHEL TOWNSHIP WHO PAYS THE TAXES? AND WHAT YOU MAKE THAT DECISION? WHO WILL BENEFIT? IF YOU ADD THAT, WILL YOU TAKE, BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE MORE PEOPLE, THE MORE ROADS, THE MORE TRAFFIC.

I MADE A MISTAKE.

I WENT TO KROGER'S FRIDAY, THREE O'CLOCK ON 2 0 2.

OLD TROY PIKE.

I FORGOT THE HORRENDOUS TRAFFIC.

AND WHEN I WENT TO FORT, GOT TO 40 AND TURNED RIGHT ON 40 TO GO EAST.

IT WAS PEACEFUL, IT WAS QUIET, IT WAS GREEN.

AND I WANT TO, UH, SAY THAT WHEN I GOT THERE, IT WAS RELAXING TO DRIVE ON THAT ROAD WITH WITHOUT STOP AND STOP, STOP AND START.

STOP AND START.

PLEASE SAY NO TO ANNEXATION AND THANK YOU FOR BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

ANYONE ELSE? THAT'S IT.

IS THERE ANYONE REGISTERED TO, UH, SPEAK ON THE SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM RECEIVED? I HAVE ONE TO SPEAK ON.

ITEM 11 B ON 11.

ITEM NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS THE CITY MANAGER REPORT.

NEXT IS

[9. City Manager Report]

BRIAN.

UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

A COUPLE ITEMS FOR, UH, COUNSEL IN THE, UH, COMMUNITY THIS EVENING.

UH, FIRST A REMINDER THAT, UH, ON JULY 1ST, UH, IS THE STAR SPANGLED HEIGHTS, UH, CELEBRATION.

THAT EVENT BEGINS AT 10:00 AM WITH THE PARADE, UH, ON BRANT PIKE, UH, CAR SHOW AT 11.

AND THEN THE FLAG RAISING AND FESTIVAL BEGINS, UH, AT 12 AND RUNS UNTIL EIGHT.

THE FESTIVAL WILL INCLUDE, UH, FOOD TRUCKS, BANDS, PETTING ZOO, KIDS ZONE, BEER GARDEN, UH, FAMILY GAME NIGHT, AND VENDORS, UH, THE MAIN STAGE WILL, UH, TAKE ACTS BEGINNING AT TWO UNTIL 10:00 PM UH, AT WHICH POINT IN TIME THE MAIN STAGE WILL GO QUIET AND FIREWORKS WILL BE DISPLAYED.

UH, ALL ARE WELCOME, UH, IN FOLLOW UP TO JULY 1ST.

UH, CITY HALL WILL BE CLOSED IN, UH, RECOGNITION OF THE JULY FOUR HOLIDAY.

UH, BUT WHEN WE ARE BACK IN THE OFFICE ON JULY 5TH, WE'LL BE HARD AT WORK.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, THAT PARTICULAR DAY A, UH, PRELIMINARY MEETING WITH T E C ENGINEERING.

T E C IS THE FIRM THAT WE HIRED BACK IN JANUARY TO HELP US WITH THE ULTRA PIKE TRAFFIC STUDY.

THEY'RE COMING IN TO PROVIDE US, UH, PRELIMINARY FINDINGS AS WELL AS INITIAL RECOMMENDATIONS ON POTENTIAL, UH, SOLUTIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION.

UH, ONCE THE UH, REPORT IS FINALIZED, WE WILL, UH, PROVIDE FOR A FORMAL PRESENTATION TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY AT A WORK SESSION, UH, DATE TO BE DETERMINED.

UH, LAST, UH, BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, WANTED TO PROVIDE A QUICK UPDATE ON AGGREGATION.

UH, WE RECEIVED A REPORT, UH, LATE LAST WEEK FROM, UH, UH, ENERGY ALLIANCES, OUR PARTNER WITH, UM, OUR PARTNER IN, UH, ELECTRICAL AG AGGREGATION.

AND, UH, OUR RESIDENCE RECEIVED, UH, ALMOST, UH, UH, TOTAL OF $89, UH, IN LOWER BILLS, UH, ON AVERAGE OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS WHEN COMPARED TO, UH, CUSTOMERS ON THE CURRENT AES MARKET RATE.

UH, THE CITY'S ALSO PARTNERING WITH 12 OTHER LOCAL JURISDICTIONS IN AN EFFORT LED BY, UH, THE MIAMI VALLEY, UH, COMMUNICATIONS COUNCIL.

WITH RESPECT TO GAS AGGREGATION, UH, THE RFP FOR GAS AGGREGATION IS SCHEDULED TO GO OUT FROM, UH, M V C C, UH, IN JULY.

UH, AND WE LOOK TO HAVE, UH, A NEW VENDOR SELECTED AND A SUPPLIER, UH, AND A NEW SUPPLIER IN PLACE BY YEARS END.

UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR COUNCIL, SIR, UNLESS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.

THANKS, BRIAN.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM BRIAN REGARDING HIS UPDATE? YES, NANCY.

UM, THIS IS, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS FALLS UNDER THIS AGENDA ITEM OR UNDER OLD PENDING BUSINESS.

UM, ON JUNE 6TH, I MADE A REQUEST THAT, UH, UH, A MORATORIUM ON STORAGE UNITS BE BE BROUGHT LEGISLATION BE BROUGHT BEFORE A WORK SESSION.

UH, SINCE THEN, UM, A NEIGHBORING CITY, ANOTHER NEIGHBORING CITY IS PROPOSING A MORATORIUM.

AND I REALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE, UM, OUR CITY BECOME, UH, THE HUB FOR FUTURE, UH, STORAGE FACILITIES.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE GET LEGISLATION PUT ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION SO THAT WE CAN, UH, MOVE FORWARD ON THIS IF THAT IS A CHOICE OF COUNCIL, UM, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BEFORE WE POSSIBLY GET ANY MORE REQUESTS

[00:25:01]

FOR STORAGE FACILITIES.

SO, I, YOU GUYS DISCUSSED THAT WHILE I WAS AWAY, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME OR THE WILL OF COUNCIL, THE OUTCOME? THE OUTCOME AT THAT TIME.

THE, IN A FUTURE MEETING, BRIAN WAS GONNA BRING, UH, LEGISLATION TO A WORK SESSION.

AND SO, UM, SINCE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN ON THE LAST WORK SESSION, I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT IT BE BROUGHT FORTH IN THE NEXT WORK SESSION.

BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT NANCY'S TALKING ABOUT OR, UH, SURE.

WE HAD, UM, WE HAD THE DISCUSSION, UM, AT THE STAFF LEVEL ABOUT HAVING LEGISLATION PREPARED AND THAT THAT LEGISLATION WOULD BE BROUGHT FORWARD, AND THAT WAS A CONVERSATION THAT I HAD HAD WITH THE PLANNER.

SO, UH, IF WE DON'T HAVE LEGISLATION, UM, AVAILABLE, I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE IT AVAILABLE SHORTLY.

WE DO HAVE A STAFF MEETING TOMORROW, AND I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP AND MAKE SURE THAT, UH, UH, THAT WE HAVE THAT AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION.

I APPRECIATE IT.

ANYTHING ELSE? YES, ED.

UH, BRIAN, IT'S BEEN TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS SINCE YOU'VE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT WE'VE HAD 42 FIREFIGHTERS, UH, ON STAFF, UH, FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC.

UM, WHEN, WHEN WERE YOU PLANNING ON, UH, BRINGING THE NEW FIREFIGHTERS THAT HAVE BEEN HIRED, UH, TO COUNSEL AND INTRODUCING THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES? SO I KNOW THAT CHIEF KNISELY HAS HAD A CONVERSATION, I BELIEVE HAS HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE CLERK ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT, UH, HIS PERSONNEL THAT HAD BEEN HIRED SINCE COVID, UH, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE COUNSEL.

BUT THE SPECIFICS OF THAT CONVERSATION I'M NOT AWARE OF, SO YOU DON'T ANSWER.

IT'S SCHEDULED, UH, TENTATIVELY FOR THE NEXT COUNSEL MEETING ON JULY 10TH.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.

AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 10, WHICH IS PENDING BUSINESS ITEM 10 A.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND TO STATE THAT THE CITY MAY HEREAFTER PROCEED WITH THE APPROVAL OF A TAX INCREMENT FINANCING INCENTIVE DISTRICT AT THE SECOND READING.

ITEM 10 A, AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE AN

[ An Ordinance To Approve An Economic Development Plan And To State That The City May Hereafter Proceed With Approval Of A Tax Increment Financing Incentive District. (second reading)]

UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THIS, UH, LEGISLATION IS THE FIRST IN A SERIES OF LEGISLATION, UH, TO ESTABLISH AN INCENTIVE DISTRICT, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, THE, UH, HEATHER MEER WOODS PROJECT AT THE INTERSECTION OF, UH, KITTRIDGE.

AND, UH, BELL FOUNTAIN PROCEEDS FROM THIS DISTRICT WOULD, UH, HELP IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN, UH, ACCESS TO TOM CLOUD PARK, AS WELL AS MAKING, UH, VEHICLE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH THAT CORRIDOR AS WELL.

UH, AND ULTIMATELY BRINGING RESOURCES TO THE TABLE TO SUPPORT CAPITAL INVESTMENTS AND IMPROVEMENTS IN TOM CLOUD PARK.

UH, IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS ITEM BE ADOPTED, UH, WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORK SESSION.

IS THERE A MOTION, NATHAN? MOTION TO ADOPT.

HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? BRIAN? I HAVE A QUESTION.

WHAT IS THE, DO YOU HAVE A, AN ESTIMATED REVENUE GENERATION FROM THAT PARTICULAR, UH, I DO, SIR, IF YOU'LL JUST HOLD ON ONE MOMENT.

UM, LET ME PULL THAT UP.

BASED ON, UM, TAX RATES FOR TAX YEAR 2021, UH, WE ESTIMATE THAT OVER THE COURSE OF 30 YEARS, BASED ON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US FROM THE DEVELOPER, UH, THAT WILL, UH, THAT TIF WILL GENERATE A NET OF 5.64 MILLION.

THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS.

UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, MR. CAMPBELL? YES.

MR. OTTO? NO.

MR. LYONS? NO.

MRS. KITCHEN? UH, NO.

SO WITH THAT WE HAVE A FOUR FOUR TIE.

SO MARY, YOU'D BE ABLE TO CAST THE DECIDING ROOM.

UH, AND I VOTE YES.

MOTION.

MOTION PASSES FIVE TO FOUR.

NEXT IS ITEM 10 B.

ITEM 10 B, A RESOLUTION APPROVING

[ A Resolution Approving The City Of Huber Heights Five-Year Capital Improvement Plan For 2024-2028. (second reading)]

FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR 2024 THROUGH 2028 AT THE SECOND READING.

BRIAN? UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION IS ONGOING ANNUAL LEGISLATION BEFORE THIS BODY, THIS PARTICULAR MEASURE LAYS OUT, UH, A CONSTRUCT, A CONCEPTUAL PLAN, UH, OF WHERE THE CITY THINKS IT WILL INVEST IN CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE ADOPTING THIS PARTICULAR MEASURE DOES NOT APPROPRIATE OR OBLIGATE FUNDING TO ANY OF THE COMPONENTS WITHIN THE PLAN.

IT IS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE WORK SESSION THAT THIS ITEM BE ADOPTED.

IS THERE A MOTION? ACTUALLY, UH, JUST SO TO CLARIFY, WE NEED A MOTION TO AMEND.

RICHARD HAD SENT AN EMAIL, I THINK ASKING FOR SOME CLARIFICATION IN THE CIP.

THAT'S CORRECT.

UH, THAT INFORMATION TONY GATHERED, BEEN DISTRIBUTED.

THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.

SO WE WOULD NEED A MOTION TO AMEND FIRST BEFORE WE MOVE TO ADOPT.

SO IS THERE A MOTION TO AMEND RICHARD? MOTION TO AMEND MARK SECOND THERE A MOTION AND SECOND DURING DISCUSSION.

[00:30:01]

AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO AMEND THE EXHIBIT A THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROVIDED WITH THE, UH, RESOLUTION WITH THE AMENDED EXHIBIT A.

AND THE MOTION TO AMEND CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO AND EXITING A MOTION FOR ADOPTION.

RICHARD? MOTION TO ADOPT.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND A DISCUSSION ON THE ADOPTION.

ANITA, I GUESS I'M KIND OF OUT OF IT OR SOMETHING, BUT DID THAT HAVE THE WATER ADJUSTMENT ON THAT AMENDMENT? YES.

I SOMEHOW MISSED THAT, SO.

UH, THIS IS JUST A REAPPOINTMENT TO A NEW TERM FOR MR. FOX AND, UH, ALL THE NECESSARY BACKGROUND CHECKS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND UPDATED.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, MR. OTTO? YES.

MOTION TO ADOPT CARRIE? SEVEN TO ONE.

NEXT UP IS NEW BUSINESS AND IT'S ITEM 11.

ITEM 11 A ITEM 11 A.

A MOTION TO REAPPOINT GREGORY FOX TO THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION FOR A TERM ENDING JUNE 30TH, 2026.

TONY,

[ A Motion To Reappoint Gregory Fox To The Arts And Beautification Commission For A Term Ending June 30, 2026.]

SO I ASK FOR COUNSEL'S APPROVAL OF THIS MOTION.

IS THERE A MOTION? OKAY, MOVE TO SIR.

ANY DISCUSSION? TONY? MR. LY? YES.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

NEXT IS ITEM 11 B, ITEM 11 B, A RESOLUTION APPOINTING CHRISTOPHER

[ A Resolution Appointing Christopher R. Conard, Esquire, Of The Coolidge Wall Law Firm, As Special Counsel To The City With Regard To Matters Of Pending Or Imminent Litigation. (first reading)]

HONOR, AND AS ESQUIRE OF THE COOLIDGE WALL LAW FIRM IS SPECIAL COUNSEL TO THE CITY WITH REGARD TO MATTERS OF PENDING OR IMMINENT LITIGATION AT THE FIRST READING.

AND TONY, THIS WILL BE COMMENTS.

UH, WE, WE SHOULD HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FIRST, AND THEN DISCUSSION WITH THE CITIZEN COMMENTS AFTER THAT.

I'LL JUST REPEAT THAT OR, OH, OKAY.

ANY, ANY COMMENTS BEFORE I ASK FOR A MOTION? UM, THIS WAS, UH, APPOINTMENT IN A MATTER OF PENDING IMMINENT LITIGATION THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AND, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS APPROVAL FOR THIS EVENING.

IS THERE A MOTION, NANCY? MOVE TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION IN THIS SECOND DISCUSSION.

UH, IS THIS THE ONE WE HAVE A CITIZEN SPEAKER ON? YES.

UM, MR. UM, MONTGOMERY.

MONTGOMERY, THANK YOU.

I WAS ALMOST GETTING READY TO SAY MR. MONTGOMERY, UM, HAVE, UH, WITH THIS, UH, IMMINENT OR PENDING LITIGATION, HAVE WE ACTUALLY BEEN SUED AT THIS TIME? UH, THIS IS A MATTER, SO IS THAT BETTER? NO.

THERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, THIS IS A MATTER THAT WE ARE CONFLICTED OUT ON, SO I CAN'T REPORT AS TO THE STATUS OF ANYTHING THAT TRANSPIRES IN REGARDS TO THIS MATTER.

BRIAN, WOULD YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW IF WE'VE BEEN SUED ON THIS AT THIS BY THIS TIME? AT THIS POINT, NO.

WE HAVE NOT BEEN SERVED.

OKAY, SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM COUNSEL BEFORE WE HAVE OUR CITIZEN COMMENTARY? OKAY.

JANELLE SMITH, IF YOU'RE PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.

UM, MY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS IS, UM, HAS ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM THAT'S GONNA BE VOTING ON THIS EVER HIRED THIS LAW FIRM TO DO PERSONAL BUSINESS FOR YOURSELF? ANYBODY, ANYBODY ON THIS COUNCIL? I'M GONNA REPEAT IT CUZ I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO MISUNDERSTAND THIS.

HAS ANYBODY HIRED BEEN AFFILIATED WITH THE COOLIDGE WOLF LAW FIRM? EITHER IN YOUR CAPACITY AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OR AS YOUR CAPACITY AS A RESIDENT OF HUBER HEIGHTS? OKAY, MY SECOND QUESTION'S GONNA BE, HAS THIS FIRM EVER DONE ANY BUSINESS ON THE ANNEXATION? HAVE THEY BEEN CONSULTED AT ALL ON THIS ANNEXATION? JANELLE, THIS IS CITIZEN COMMENTS, NOT QUESTION, ANSWER, COMMENT, NOT QUESTION, ANSWER TIME.

SO IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS.

TRUST PUBLIC, UH, BETWEEN PUBLIC AND THE CITY.

SO MY COMMENTS ARE THAT WE, THE PEOPLE ARE LOSING CONFIDENCE AND YOU GUYS AS A COUNCIL.

AND WHEN PEOPLE LOSE CONFIDENCE IN THEIR CITY COUNCIL, SEVERAL EFFECTS CAN ARISE.

AND HERE'S SOME OF THEM.

DECREASED.

TRUST THE LOSS.

UH, THE LOSS OF COMPETENCE ERODES

[00:35:01]

COUNCIL, CITIZENS MAY QUESTION THE COUNCIL'S DECISION MAKING MOTIVES AND ABILITY TO REPRESENT THEIR INTEREST EFFECTIVELY.

DISENGAGEMENT, THE LACK OF COMPETENCE CAN LEAD TO REDUCED CIVIC PARTICIPATION AND ENGAGEMENT.

PEOPLE MAY BECOME LESS LIKELY TO ATTEND CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, PARTICIPATE IN LOCAL ELECTIONS, AND WE'VE SEEN THAT GENERAL OR PROVIDE INPUT ON COMMUNITY MATTERS.

I HAVE THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW, DON'T EXCUSE ME, BUT FEELING THEIR VOICE DOESN'T MATTER.

JANELLE, I'M THIRD CALL YOU, IS POLITICAL.

YOU'RE MAKING HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MAY PARTICULAR ITEM.

ITEM COUNSEL THE CHALLENGES OF IMPLEMENTING POLICIES OR INITIATIVES.

JANELLE, THE OPPOSITION, WHAT YOU ARE SAYING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HIRING OF THIS SPECIAL COUNSEL.

IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE REGARDING THIS SPECIFIC ITEM, WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HEAR THEM.

AND THE, AND MY SPECIFIC COMMENTS HAVE TO DO WITH THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC AND YOU'RE INTERRUPTING IT AND I CAN'T HEAR YOU WHEN YOU'RE INTERRUPTING ME.

SO SOMEHOW SO YOU CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH SPECIAL.

SO SOMEHOW, SOMEHOW HIRING WITH MY FIVE MINUTES IS OVER.

SO I YOU, I WILL ADD 30 SECONDS OF YOUR TIME.

IF YOU WANNA MAKE THOSE COMMENTS, YOU NEED TO TELL US HOW HIRING SPECIAL COUNSEL, BECAUSE MR. MONTGOMERY HAS ALREADY SAID HE HAS NOT BEEN CONFLICTED OUT OF THIS.

IF YOU WOULD STOP TALKING.

HOW DOES THAT STOP TALKING? HOW DOES JANELLE STOP TALKING? MAYOR, I RUN MAYOR THIS MEETING.

STOP TALKING AND I COULD MAYBE EXPLAIN IT, BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA TALK OVER ME, YOU CAN'T HAVE A CONVERSATION.

SO I'M GONNA END THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO HOSTILE, JANELLE, WITH THIS GOODBYE.

THAT WAS PLEASANT.

BY THE HUBER HEIGHT CITY COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION OF THE 2024 TAX BUDGET.

UH, SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ONE.

NEXT UP IS ITEM 11 C.

ITEM 11 C, A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 26TH, 2023

[ A Public Hearing Scheduled For June 26, 2023 By The Huber Heights City Council For Discussion Of The 2024 Tax Budget.]

AND THIS PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 26TH, 2023 BY THE HUBER HEIGHT CITY COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL OF THE 2024 TAX BUDGET IS HEREBY CALL TO ORDER AND THE PUBLIC MEETING IS NOW OPEN.

MR. JANKOWSKI, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY INITIAL COMMENTS, UH, OR PRESENTATIONS? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

JUST A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, THE NATURE OF THIS HEARING AND THE LEGISLATION TO WHICH, UH, IT IS RELATED.

THE LEGISLATION IN QUESTION IS A FORMALITY AND ONLY REQUIRED BY THE MIAMI COUNTY BUDGET COMMISSION.

UH, THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE 2024, UH, BUDGET PROCESS.

THE NOTICE OF THIS TAX BUDGET HEARING WAS ADVERTISED ON JUNE 9TH.

AND IN ADDITION TO THE DAILY COURT REPORTER, AN ANNOUNCED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, UH, BEGINNING JUNE 15TH, IT WAS REVIEWED LAST WEEK AT THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION.

THE TAX BUDGET PRODUCES THE CERTIFICATE OF ESTIMATED RESOURCES FROM THE COUNTY AUDITOR, AND THAT IS AN ESTIMATE OF THE REVENUES THE CITY WILL HAVE AVAILABLE TO SPEND IN 2024.

UH, THIS DOCUMENT IS AMENDED MANY TIMES DURING THE YEAR BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF REVENUES RECEIVED OR NOT RECEIVED RELATIVE TO PROJECTIONS.

THE TAX BUDGET ALLOWS THE CITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT FUND DISTRIBUTION FROM THE STATE OF OHIO.

IF WE DO NOT ACT ON A TAX BUDGET IN A TIMELY MANNER, THE CITY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO RECEIVE LOCAL GOVERNMENT REVENUES.

IN 2024 AND 2023, REVENUES FROM THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT FUND DISTRIBUTED TO THE CITY, UH, ARE ESTIMATED TO BE $650,000.

THE TAX BUDGET ALSO INCLUDES A LIST OF ALL CURRENT PROPERTY TAX LEVIES.

THE COUNTY AUDITOR WILL PROVIDE AN ESTIMATE OF THE REVENUES TO BE GENERATED BY THOSE LEVIES IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS.

COUNCIL WILL THEN NEED TO APPROVE THOSE LEVIES AND ESTIMATED REVENUES IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER.

THE CITY CANNOT COLLECT PROPERTY TAX WITHOUT THE TAX BUDGET.

FINALLY, THE TAX BUDGET ITSELF IS ONLY AN ESTIMATE OF REVENUES AND DOES NOT APPROPRIATE ANYTHING FOR 2024.

THE ACTUAL APPROPRIATION PROCESS WILL BE DONE LATER THIS YEAR UNDER A SEPARATE ORDINANCE APPROVING THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR 2024.

OHIO REVISED CODE REQUIRES THE ADOPTION OF THE TAX BUDGET BY CITY COUNCIL UNLESS WAIVED BY THE COUNTY BUDGET COMMISSION, UH, BEFORE JULY 15TH.

WE ARE ASKING, UH, THAT COUNSEL ADOPT THIS PARTICULAR MATTER THIS EVENING, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

THANKS, BRIAN.

NEXT ON CALLING, UH, LAW DIRECTOR MR. MONTGOMERY TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF HE HAS ANY.

NOTHING TO ADD, YOUR HONOR.

IT, IT IS SPECIFICALLY, THEY'RE THE ONLY BUDGET COMMISSION THAT REQUIRES IT.

AND NEXT, IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE? OKAY, ISR.

ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS TAX BUDGET? OKAY, NEXT, I'D CALL ANY MEMBER OF THE HE RIGHTS TO THE COUNCIL TO MAKE OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

NANCY? YES.

AND THIS MIGHT BE JUST A SCRIBNER'S QUESTION.

UM, CAN WE DESIGNATE THIS AS MIAMI COUNTY TAX BUDGET IN THE, IN THE LEGISLATION?

[00:40:01]

MONTGOMERY COUNTY NO LONGER REQUIRES IT, BUT WE DO STILL PROVIDE IT TO THEM.

YEAH, BUT I MEAN, IF, IF WE PULL THIS UP THROUGH SOME FUTURE OR BY SOME FUTURE DATE, THAT COULD BE MISINTERPRETED AS BEING THE TAX BUDGET FOR, FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY, NOT MIAMI COUNTY.

IT, IT'S, IT SERVES FOR BOTH PURPOSES.

SO IT APPLIES TO BOTH COUNTIES, EVEN THOUGH MIAMI COUNTY IS THE ONLY BUDGET COMMISSION THAT REQUIRES THAT WE SUBMIT.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, HOUSTON BOTH REQUIRE IT.

NOW.

MONTGOMERY COUNTY NO LONGER REQUIRES IT, SO WE JUST, WE SUBMIT IT TO THEM JUST AS A FORMALITY STILL IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY.

BUT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO SO IN MIAMI COUNTY TO GET THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT FUND AS FIRST.

AND SO THE RESOLUTION DOES SAY THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AND MIAMI COUNTY, SO THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

GOOD QUESTION.

ANYONE ELSE ON COUNSEL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR THE CAUSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY.

ASK ONE LAST TIME.

THERE'S NO ONE PERSON, UH, PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS TAX BUDGET.

A RESOLUTION ADOPTING A PRELIMINARY TAX BUDGET FOR REVENUES AT THE CITY OF HEBRIDES, OHIO FOR THE PERIOD BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2024, AND ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2024 AT THE FIRST READING.

SO BARRING ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, THE PUBLIC HEARING BY THE HEBREW RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR THE 2024 TAX BUDGET IS NOW HERE BY CLOSED.

AND NEXT WE WOULD HAVE ITEM 11 D.

ITEM 11 D

[ A Resolution Adopting A Preliminary Tax Budget For Revenues Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio For The Period Beginning January 1, 2024 And Ending December 31, 2024. (first reading)]

AND BRIAN, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? UH, NO SIR.

THANK YOU THOUGH.

NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION AT THE WORK SESSION TO ADOPT THIS ITEM THIS EVENING.

RICHARD? MOTION TO ADOPT CHAIR.

A SECOND, MARK.

AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR GENERAL LIABILITY, PROPERTY, OILER AND MACHINERY, INLAND MARINE AUTOMOBILE CRIME, LAW ENFORCEMENT LIABILITY, PUBLIC OFFICIALS LIABILITY, AND OTHER NECESSARY INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO.

HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? TONY? MR. RAM? YES.

AND THE MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

AND NEXT IS ITEM 11 E.

ITEM 11 E A RESOLUTION

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into An Agreement To Provide Insurance Coverage For General Liability, Property, Boiler And Machinery, Inland Marine, Automobile, Crime, Law Enforcement Liability, Public Officials Liability, And Other Necessary Insurance Coverage For The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio, Waiving The Competitive Bidding Requirements, And Covering The Costs Of Services Ordered By The City. (first reading)]

WAIVING THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS AND COVERING THE COSTS OF SERVICES ORDERED BY THE CITY AT THE FIRST READING.

BRIAN? UH, THANK YOU, UH, MR. MAYOR, AS WAS REPORTED BY, UH, THE HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR DURING THE WORK SESSION.

UH, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, MEASURE, UH, WILL PROVIDE INSURANCE THROUGH, UH, TWO PARTICULAR PROVIDERS, UM, IN A COST NOT TO EXCEED, UH, OR EXCUSE ME, UM, NOT, UM, EXCUSE ME, IN A COST THAT DOES NOT EXCEED, I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST YEAR'S, UH, UM, EXPENSE FOR THE SAME PURCHASE.

WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL, ADOPT THIS PARTICULAR MEASURE TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT INSURANCE COVERAGE, UH, FOR THIS OPERATION.

UH, AND THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION AT THE WORK SESSION? YES, THERE WAS.

IS THERE A MOTION, GLENN? MOTION TO ADOPT FOR A SECOND? I WILL.

SECOND DON, WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YES, RICHARD.

UM, BRIAN, IN, IN REVIEW OF THE, UH, RESOLUTION, UM, I WAS UNABLE TO, UH, FIND ANY TYPE OF TERM DATES, UH, LISTED HERE WITHIN, UM, I KNOW THIS COUNSEL RECENTLY APPROVED LEGISLATION TO EXTEND THE TRAVELERS, UH, UNTIL, UH, JULY.

HOWEVER, THERE'S NO TERM LISTED IN SECTION ONE, TWO, OR THREE AS TO WHEN THIS, UH, COVERAGE ENDS, UH, BEGINS AND OR ENDS.

UM, I WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH COUNSEL IN, UH, EMAIL COMMUNICATION.

APART FROM, UM, THIS PARTICULAR MEASURE, THE INSURANCE TYPICALLY TENDS THE COVERAGE PERIOD IS NORMALLY FOR A 12 MONTH PERIOD.

UH, BUT YOU'LL NOTE IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, UH, WE'VE BIFURCATED COVERAGE, UH, THROUGH TWO DIFFERENT, UH, PROVIDERS.

SO, UH, THAT'S THE REASON WHY, UH, THAT PARTICULAR MEASURE DOES NOT APPEAR.

THOSE PARTICULAR TERMS AND CONDITIONS DON'T APPEAR HERE.

BUT WE'LL FOLLOW UP, UH, WITH A SEPARATE COMMUNICATION SO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

SURE.

NANCY, DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE EXISTING COVERAGE ENDS? UH, RYAN, BECAUSE I THOUGHT KATIE SAID IT WAS COMING UP JULY 1ST, CORRECT? YEAH, CORRECT.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO BRING IT BACK TO COUNSEL AGAIN? THAT IS CORRECT.

EIGHT TO ZERO AND NEXT IS ITEM 11 F.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? OKAY.

[00:45:01]

ITEM 11 F AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER

[ An Ordinance Amending Ordinance No. 2022-O-2562 By Making Supplemental Appropriations For Expenses Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio For The Period Beginning January 1, 2023 And Ending December 31, 2023. (first reading)]

2022 DASH OH DASH 25 62 BY MAKING SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR EXPENSES OF THE CITY OF HUB RIGHTS OHIO FOR THE PERIOD BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2023, ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2023.

HIT THE FIRST READING RIGHT.

UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION PROVIDES AMENDMENTS, UH, TO PROVIDE THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH OUR, UH, ONLINE AUCTION RELATIONSHIP WITH MONTGOMERY COUNTY AND THE DISPOSAL OF ASSETS, AS WELL AS FOR, UH, ADDITIONAL MOLD RE REMEDIATION EXPENSES TO BE DRESSED BY COUNSEL.

LATER IN THIS MEETING, WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNSEL, ADOPT THIS, UH, LEGISLATION, AS WAS THE RECOMMENDATION AT THE WORK SESSION.

AND THE ASK MINISTER BELL WAS TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING.

SO FIRST WE NEED A MOTION TO WAIVE, DON.

MOTION TO WAIVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? TONY? MS. BAKER? YES.

MOTION TO WAIVE CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

NEXT I NEED A MOTION FOR ADOPTION.

DON, I'LL MOVE TO ADOPT.

IS THERE A SECOND? GO SECOND.

A MOTION AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? DON? UH, BRIEF COMMENT.

JUST WANTED TO THANK, UH, UH, BRIAN FOR FORWARDING THE INFORMATION THAT WE REQUESTED ON THE NET PROCEEDS FROM SET AUCTIONS, UH, HELP CLARIFY THINGS A BIT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? YES, RICHARD? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, UH, TO, UH, PIGGYBACK ON COUNCILMAN WEBB'S COMMENTS.

I I DO WANT TO THANK THE, UH, STAFF FOR PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION, UH, HAVING SEEN THAT IN GRAVE DETAIL.

UM, UH, MAYOR, I, I DON'T WISH TO PURSUE THAT TOPIC AT THIS TIME.

G A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INCREASE THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT FOR ENVIRONMENTAL DOCTOR AND TO AWARD A CONTRACT FOR SERVICES RELATED TO PROVIDING MOLD REMEDIATION SERVICES AT THE FIRST READING.

THANK YOU, RICHARD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY.

DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? A SECOND FOR ADOPTION JUDGE.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

AND NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 11 G.

ITEM 11

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Increase The Not To Exceed Amount For Environmental Doctor And To Award A Contract For Services Related To Providing Mold Remediation Services. (first reading)]

THE CITY MANAGER TO INCREASE THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT FOR PINPOINT BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SOLUTIONS FOR CONTRACTUAL SERVICES THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2024 FOR THE BEHAVIORAL WELLNESS PROGRAM FOR THE FIRE AND POLICE DIVISIONS AT THE FIRST READING.

UH, THANK YOU.

MR. MAYOR, UH, REFERENCED THE PREVIOUS LEGISLATION.

THIS PARTICULAR LEGISLATION, UH, ALLOWS THE CITY TO ENGAGE THE NECESSARY PROFESSIONALS TO REMEDIATE MOLD THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED, UH, WITHIN THE POLICE DIVISION BUILDING.

WE WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION THIS EVENING.

THERE A MOTION? OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? TONY.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

AND NEXT IS ITEM 11 H.

ITEM 11 H RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Increase The Not To Exceed Amount For Pinpoint Behavioral Health Solutions For Contractual Services Through December 31, 2024 For The Behavioral Wellness Program For The Fire And Police Divisions. (first reading)]

BRIAN, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

THIS PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY COMPETITIVELY BID AND AWARDED THROUGH, UH, THE UTILIZATION OF GRANT FUNDS.

UH, THE FUNDS MADE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY, UH, WERE MORE THAN THE EXPENSE OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT.

THIS LEGISLATION WOULD AMEND THE CONTRACT TO INCLUDE, UH, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, UH, AND WELLNESS FOR THE POLICE DIVISION, UH, THEREBY UTILIZING THE FULL MAXIMUM, UH, VALUE OF THE GRANT.

WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL, ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION THIS EVENING.

THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION.

IS THERE A MOTION, CLINT? MOTION TO ADOPT? IS THERE A SECOND? RICHARD SECOND.

HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? YES, CLINT.

A BIG, UH, THANK YOU TO THE FOLKS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR BRINGING ANOTHER GRANT.

IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE ON THEIR GRANT GAME ALL THE TIME, SO I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THAT, BUT THANK YOU.

THANKS GLENN.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.

AND A MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

AND NEXT IS ITEM 11.

ITEM 11, AYE.

ORDINANCE

[ An Ordinance To Levy Special Assessments For The Repair And Reconstruction Of Sidewalks, Curbs And Gutters, Driveway Approaches And Appurtenances Thereto On Parts Or All Of Certain Streets In The City Of Huber Heights Referred To As The 2023 Sidewalk Program, And Declaring An Emergency. (first reading)]

TO LEVY.

SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS FOR THE REPAIR AND RECONSTRUCTION OF SIDEWALKS, CURBS, AND GUTTERS, DRIVEWAY APPROACHES.

AND URT IS THERE TOO ON PARTS OR ALL OF CERTAIN STREETS IN THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS REFERRED TO AS THE 2023 SIDE SIDEWALK PROGRAM AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY AT THE FIRST READING.

WHO ARE IMPACTED BY THIS PROGRAM THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF TIME TO BE ABLE TO PAY, UM, THEIR INVOICE FOR SERVICE SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO PRIOR FOR, UH, PRIOR TO THE DOCUMENTS BEING SENT FOR ASSESSMENT TO THE COUNTY.

UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

UH, THIS IS, UH, THE, UM, AUTHORIZING LEGISLATION, UH, TO COMPLETE THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.

ALL OF THE PARTIES AFFECTED BY THIS RECEIVED PREVIOUS NOTICE ABOUT, UH, THIS PROGRAM AND THEIR INVOLVEMENT IN IT.

UH, STAFF IS ASKING THAT COUNSEL WAIVED THE SECOND READING AND ADOPT IS AN EMERGENCY AND AN EFFORT TO, UH, PROVIDE, UH, RESIDENTS

[00:50:01]

UH, THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION, UH, AT THE WORK SESSION AS WELL? YES.

SO FIRST WE WOULD NEED A MOTION TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING.

ANITA, A MOTION TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING.

IS THERE A SECOND? GLEN? UM, MARK.

AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AWARD A CONTRACT FOR SERVICES RELATED TO PROVIDING FOR THE REPAIR AND REFURBISHMENT OF BASKETBALL COURTS AT THE FIRST READING.

I HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION ON WAIVING THE SECOND READING? OKAY.

MOTION WAIVE CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

AND NEXT WE NEED A MOTION FOR ADOPTION.

ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ONE.

AND NEXT UP IS ITEM 11 J.

ITEM 11 J THE RESOLUTION

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Award A Contract For Services Related To Providing For The Repair And Refurbishment Of Basketball Courts. (first reading)]

BRIAN? UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

UH, THIS ITEM WAS DISCUSSED AT THE WORK SESSION AT LENGTH.

IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION, UH, FROM THE WORK SESSION THAT THIS ITEM BE ADOPTED THIS EVENING.

UH, AND FOLLOW UP, UH, TO THE DISCUSSION AT THE WORK SESSION, UH, THE CITY DID CONTACT THE CONTRACTOR, UH, THAT WAS RECOMMENDED AS BEST LOWEST.

AND THAT, UH, CONTRACTOR DID CONFIRM THAT IF AWARDED THIS CONTRACT THIS EVENING, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE WORK BEFORE THE YEAR END.

AND THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORK SESSION.

MARK.

MOTION TO ADOPT RICHARD.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? WAIT A MINUTE, THIS IS JAY.

I THOUGHT WE SAID WE WERE GONNA SEND THIS BACK TO GET IT REBID, UH, BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE DONE THIS YEAR ANYWAY.

NO, THAT, THAT WAS, THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

I MEAN, BUT THEN, UM, EVEN, EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT SENDING IT BACK, THERE WASN'T A MAJORITY OBJECTION BY COUNSEL TO DO THAT AT THE WORK SESSION.

THANKS.

SO, I MEAN, WE MADE IT SO WE JUST VOTE.

SO WE MOVED IT FORWARD NOW FOR A VOTE.

BECAUSE THERE WASN'T THANK, THERE WASN'T A MAJORITY OBJECTION TO, TO KEEP IT OFF OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AWARD A CONTRACT FOR SERVICES RELATED TO PROVIDING FOR THE REPAIR AND REFURBISHMENT OF PICKLEBALL COURTS AT THE FIRST THREE.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? TONY? MR. WEBB? YES.

THE MOTION CARRIES SIX TO TWO.

NEXT UP IS ITEM 11 K.

ITEM 11 K A RESOLUTION

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Award A Contract For Services Related To Providing For The Repair And Refurbishment Of Pickleball Courts. (first reading)]

UH, THANK YOU SIR.

PURSUANT TO THE, UH, DISCUSSION AT, UH, THE WORK SESSION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, UH, I WOULD CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO SECTION TWO OF THE RECITALS.

UH, IN THE LEGISLATION THAT IS PROPOSED TONIGHT.

UH, I CAN CONFIRM THAT THE CITY DID RECEIVE, UH, SKETCHED, OR I SHOULDN'T SAY SKETCHED, BUT UM, MEASURED THE DRAWINGS OF THE COURTS, UH, AS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL.

WE RECEIVED THOSE DRAWINGS LATE FRIDAY.

AND THEN A MORE DETAILED, UH, PROPOSAL, UM, REGARDING AND REFLECTING THE CONVERSATION THAT WAS HAD BY COUNCIL AT THE WORK SESSION, UH, WAS ALSO RECEIVED BY THE CITY LATE TODAY.

UH, SO WE DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

UH, AND IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE WORK SESSION, UH, THAT THIS ITEM BE ADOPTED THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU BRIAN.

AND THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION.

IS THERE A MOTION MARK? MOTION TO ADOPT RICHARD.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON PICKLEBALL COURTS? ANITA? OKAY.

I JUST DID NOT WALK AWAY FROM THE WORK SESSION FEELING LIKE I, IF WE'RE DOING THIS, I WANT THESE ABSOLUTELY TO BE READY FOR TOURNAMENT PLAY.

IT WAS IN THE PAPER TODAY OR YESTERDAY ABOUT KETTERING GETTING THESE TOURNAMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND HAVE INCREASED THEIR COURTS.

I WANT THIS DONE RIGHT.

I WANT IT DONE AND I WANT IT DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

BUT I WOULD FEEL BETTER IF WE MOVED IT TO A SECOND READING AND WE ACTUALLY MAYBE TALKED TO SOMEBODY WHO RUNS A PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT TO LOOK AT THE SPECS TO ABSOLUTELY AGREE BECAUSE THIS GOT DONE REALLY HAPHAZARDLY THE FIRST TIME.

IF WE'RE DOING THIS, I REALLY WANT THESE DONE SO WE CAN BRING TOURNAMENTS IN.

AND I JUST DIDN'T WALK AWAY FEELING WARM AND FUZZY WITH THE GUY WHO WAS HERE THE OTHER NIGHT, WHATEVER.

I FORGET WHAT HIS NAME WAS.

NOT THAT I'M DISCREDITING, BUT HE KNEW MORE ABOUT TENNIS THAN PICKLEBALL IT SEEMED LIKE.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

I WOULD JUST LIKE IT MOVED TO A SECOND READING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOMEBODY AND MAYBE THAT RUNS PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENTS.

[00:55:03]

DONE.

UH, I WILL SAY THAT I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN KITCHEN.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS MOVED ON TO A SECOND READING AND A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, TIME AVAILABLE TO STUDY, UH, THE DOCUMENT BRIAN RECEIVED AS WELL AS THE, THE LAYOUT.

NANCY? YES.

UM, AND I, I'M ALL FOR MOVING THIS FORWARD, BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT.

UM, THE SKETCH THAT BRIAN PROVIDED TO ME ABOUT 3 3 30 TODAY, UM, DOES NOT REFLECT.

IT'S REAL EASY HERE.

YOU GO ON THE INTERNET AND YOU LOOK AT THE PROFESSIONAL PICKLEBALL ASSOCIATION AND THEY SHOW YOU THE DIMENSIONS FOR THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, UM, THAT THEY NEED TO BE, TO BE TOURNAMENT READY.

I MEAN, IT'S NO BIG MYSTERY.

IT'S, IT'S UH, IT'S A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION.

THERE'S NOTHING IN OUR DISCUSSION OR THE LATEST INFORMATION PROVIDED US FROM CITY MANAGER THAT IDENTIFIES ANY SPECS.

THE, THE, UH, QUESTION, THE UH, SKETCH THAT HE PROVIDED TO US DOES NOT HAVE THE RECOMMENDED 10 FEET AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE COURTS TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO REACH WHEN THEY'RE PLAYING.

UH, IT DOESN'T TALK TO A LOT OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE RAISED IN THE PAST.

I WANT TO SEE A WRITTEN SPEC THAT WILL PROVIDE US A TOURNAMENT READY PICKLEBALL COURT OR AS MANY AS WE HAVE.

BUT, SO I HATE TO RISK MOVING IT TO THE NEXT SEASON, BUT I WILL NOT SUPPORT SPENDING ANOTHER DOLLAR ON THESE PICKLEBALL COURTS UNTIL WE GET THE SPECS IN FRONT OF US.

WE GET THE, THE, UH, PROPOSED CONTRACTOR TO UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THERE ARE SPECS ESTABLISHED.

YOU PRESENT THOSE IN THE CONTRACT AND THEN WE CAN APPROVE IT.

BUT IT'S, IT'S TOO VAGUE RIGHT NOW.

IT IS ABSOLUTELY TOO VAGUE AND WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR IT FOR QUITE A WHILE AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS CONTRACTOR'S HAVING HAD VERY HARD TIME GIVING US SOMETHING THAT IS READILY AVAILABLE ON THE INTERNET.

I JUST, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

AND UH, IF I MAY, EVEN THOUGH MR. BLACK CAME IN LATE AND DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK, HE IS OUR PARKS AND REC PICKLEBALL PERSON.

UM, AND I DID GIVE HIM THE SKETCHES THAT, AND I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, ALEX.

I DID GIVE HIM THE SKETCH.

YEAH, BUT I DID , BUT UM, I DID GIVE HIM THE SKETCH THAT THE CITY MANAGER FORWARDED TO ME AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET HIS COMMENTS ON, ON WHAT HE THINKS BE GLAD TO.

SURE.

I LOOKED AT THE TWO SETS OF DRAWINGS AND UH, THE ONE DRAWING, THEY ADDED ADDITIONAL FOUR FEET TO THE COURTS THAT ARE THERE GOING NORTH, NORTH, SOUTH DIRECTION, UH, AUGUST.

WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT.

BUT EITHER SET OF DRAWINGS THAT WE HAVE NOW, IF WE GO WITH THE SAME CONFIGURATION THAT WE HAVE NOW, IT WOULD MEET THE SPECIFICATION THAT YOU WOULD NEED FOR PICKUP BALL TO HAVE A TOURNAMENT.

THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM THERE.

THE PROBLEM WASN'T, YOU KNOW, THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM IN THE COURT AREA.

THE PROBLEM WAS THEY POSITIONED THE COURT TOO CLOSE ON ONE END TO THE CENTER FENCE, WHICH MEANT THAT ALL SIX COURTS NOW ARE USELESS.

HAD THEY PUT THE COURTS IN THE CENTER WHEN THEY DID THE FIRST TIME, IT WOULD'VE BEEN OKAY THEN, EXCEPT FOR THE, THE GROUND AND SO FORTH.

SO THAT WASN'T A PROBLEM, THAT IT WASN'T ENOUGH SPACE IN THAT AREA FOR THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.

THE PROBLEM WAS, I CALLED IT A NINTH GRADE MISTAKE.

IF YOU ARE LAYING OUT SOMETHING FOR SPORTS, YOU ALWAYS PUT IT IN THE CENTER.

YOU DON'T MOVE IT CLOSE TO ONE END, YOU GIVE IT ADVANTAGE TO ONE TEAM OVER THE OTHER ONE.

SO THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PROBLEM.

WHOEVER PUT IT IN ORIGINALLY DID NOT PUT IT IN IN THE CENTER.

EITHER OF THE DRAWINGS THAT I SEE HERE RIGHT NOW WOULD BE MORE THAN ADEQUATE FOR A PICKLEBALL PLAY.

CAUSE I PLAYED A TOURNAMENT LAST WEEKEND OVER IN RICHMOND AND I THINK THIS IS REALLY IN THE SAME AREA THAT THEY HAVE THERE IN TERMS OF THE SPACE AROUND THE COURT AND THE SPACING ON THE END.

SO I THINK EITHER ONE OF THESE DRAWINGS WILL WORK.

WHAT ALEX WHAT WE HAVE YOU THERE, JUST TO COMPLETELY CLARIFY CUZ YOU'RE MUCH MORE AN EXPERT ON PICKLEBALL THAN I EVER COULD BE, BUT, UM, YOU BELIEVE BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE SEEN, WHAT YOU'VE HEARD, CAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE HERE FOR THE LAST DISCUSSION, THAT WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE WOULD SATISFY THE NEEDS.

I'M SURELY WILL.

UH, DISCUSSED IN THE PAST THAT, UH, WERE NOT DEFINED, UH, THAT WERE NOT LAID OUT IN AN ACTUAL SPEC? WELL NOW THE YOUNG MAN THAT WAS HERE WAS A BRIAN, WHAT'S HIS NAME? I THINK IT WAS, ANYWAY, HE WAS BASED ON THE SURFACE ON TENNIS SPECIFICATIONS.

AND WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER SPECS THAT WE HAVE,

[01:00:01]

AND THAT IS MORE THAN ADEQUATE.

NOW THE ISSUE IS, I'M NOT SURE THAT, UH, IT'S CLARIFIED IN HERE IS WHEN YOU DIG THE HOLES FOR THE NET POST, BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION HERE IN OHIO, THERE'S A CERTAIN DEPTH THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED.

SO I'M SURE HE'S AWARE OF THAT.

THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.

CAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT DEEP ENOUGH, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT PROBLEM WITH THE NET POLE POPPING UP OUTTA THE GROUND.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I CAN SEE NO ISSUES THAT, UH, NEED TO BE ADDRESSED WITH THESE SPECIFICATIONS.

DO ONE MORE QUESTION.

YEAH, GO AHEAD NANCY.

ONE MORE.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE WOULD, WOULD, WOULD YOU BE, UM, AMENABLE TO MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS EFFORT IF COUNSEL GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE, UH, FINAL WRITE UP THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT DOES TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT INCLUDED IS, IS THERE BEFORE THE CONTRACT IS AWARDED? LET ME REPHRASE THAT.

YOU'RE SAYING IF WE PUT THESE SPECIFICATIONS IN INTO THE CONTRACT CORRECT.

WOULD THAT BE SATISFACTORY? IN MY OPINION WOULD BE IT'S A YES.

RIGHT NOW HOW HE GOES ABOUT DOING THAT, I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S UP TO HIM.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT THE YEAH, THAT'S OUR JOB.

MARK, BRIAN? YES, SIR.

AS THE ADMINISTRATOR, WILL YOU MAKE SURE THE POLLS ARE THE RIGHT DEPTH? AND WILL YOU MAKE SURE THAT THAT DRAWING IS IN THE CONTRACT? THERE'S A, THERE'S A SPECIFICATION ALREADY LAID OUT AND I CAN FORWARD, UH, THAT SHOWS YOU HOW WIDE AND HOW DEEP THAT HOLE HAS TO BE TO WITHSTAND THE WEIGHT OF THE NET SO FORTH.

SO YEAH.

AND MR. BLACK, IF, UH, RIGHT.

BRIAN ENSURES THAT THAT'S IN THE CONTRACT, I WOULD GET BE SURE TO GET IT.

THAT SHOULD SURE.

AND I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT, SIR.

I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? YES.

KATE, MR. ZUKOWSKI, DO YOU NEED ANOTHER WORK SET LIKE ANOTHER TWO WEEKS TO ACCOMPLISH THIS? OR IS, CAN THIS BE PREPARED AND WE'LL DO IT BASED ON THE LEGISLATION, BASED ON THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THE LEGISLATION? I, UM, I POINT TO, UM, THE DECLARATIONS SECTION TWO SAID, CONTRACT PRIOR TO EXECUTION SHALL, SHALL REPRESENT SUCH WARRANTIES AND GUARANTEES AS CUSTOMARY FOR LIKE, AND SIMILAR WORK AS TO ENSURE THE CITY'S SATISFACTION WITH THE FINAL IMPROVEMENT, ALONG WITH A GRAPHIC REPRESENTATION OF THE IMPROVEMENTS TO BE MADE, INCLUDING THE SCHEME FOR SET IMPROVEMENTS, UH, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE LAW DIRECTOR TO ENSURE THAT IT WAS A NON-BIASED PARTY WHO WAS BEING RESPONSIBLE, UH, TO VALIDATING, UH, THE CONCERNS THAT COUNSEL HAD.

AND THAT WAS THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAD PUT INTO THE LEGISLATION BASED ON THE CONVICTS AND THE CONVERSATION, UH, THAT WE, UM, HAD, HAD.

IS THE DRAWING, THE WORK SESSION, IS THE DRAWING IN THERE THAT YOU, SO THE WORK, SO IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE COUNSEL PACKET BECAUSE THE DRAWING DIDN'T COME UNTIL AFTER THE PACKET, BUT IT WILL BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE CONTRACT.

AND THEN THAT CONTRACT WILL THEN EVENTUALLY RESIDE IN THE HANDS OF THE CLERK WHEN EVERYTHING IS FINALLY, UH, RESOLVED AND APPROVED.

TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE LAW DIRECTOR AND THE COLORATION OF THE, THE COURT WAS ADDED TO THAT TOO.

UH UH.

THAT WAS THE SCHEME AS WELL.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THANK YOU, TONY.

WELL, SO I KNOW, SO THE, THE ASK TO MOVE TO A SECOND READING, I MEAN, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS.

SO WE'VE HAD A MOTION A SECOND ON THE FLOOR, SO YOU DEAL WITH A MOTION THAT WAS THE SECOND THAT WAS ON THE FLOOR.

FIRST.

IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THAT VOTE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO, TO DEAL WITH IT.

IF IT'S NOT APPROVED.

ANITA, I'LL REVOKE THAT.

HEARING THE INFORMATION THAT WE ARE PUTTING THE SCHEMATICS AND EVERYTHING INTO THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT.

I'M FINE NOW TO GO FORWARD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? DID DON WITHDRAW THE SECOND? I WITHDRAW THE SECOND.

WELL, YOU WERE MAKING MOTION, MAKING A MOTION.

YOU WANT TO CONSIDER IT GOING TO A SECOND READING, BUT WE, I'M WITHDRAWING THAT NOW, FIRST AND A SECOND ON THE MOTION TO ADOPT.

THAT'S WHAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION AT THIS POINT.

YOU GOOD? YEAH.

EVENING, ANITA? UM, FIRST OFF IS FIRST TIER JUST GOT DONE DURING A STRATEGIC PLAN.

NANCY, YOU GOOD? YEAH.

[01:05:01]

AND THE MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT IS THE END OF THE MEETING.

NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 12, WHICH IS CITY OFFICIAL REPORTS AND COMMENTS.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THIS

[12. City Official Reports And Comments]

UM, THEY'RE REVIEWING IT RIGHT NOW, BUT I'LL BE PROVIDING COUNSEL WITH THAT AS SOON AS THAT'S REVIEWED.

UM, ALSO THEY ARE HAVING THEIR COMMUNITY EVENT OUT AT KETTERING, UM, AUGUST 9TH.

SO THAT'S ALWAYS A CHANCE TO, UM, MEET UP WITH OTHER PEOPLE FROM OTHER, UM, AREA, UM, COUNCILS.

UM, ALSO I'D LIKE TO THANK THE, UM, CULTURAL AND DIVERSITY FOR THE JUNETEENTH EVENT.

OH MY GOSH.

THAT HAD AN ATTENDANCE.

I WOULD SAY THERE WAS EASILY A 600 PEOPLE THERE, AND THAT WAS JUST AN ABSOLUTELY GREAT TIME THAT THEY PUT ON.

I WISH I COULD HAVE MADE IT OUT FOR THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL, BUT I WAS NOT ABLE TO.

BUT THAT WAS AN AMAZING TIME.

UM, LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP, UM, THE SOCIAL MEDIA STUFF.

YES, I DID HAVE A TEXT WITH MAYOR GORE ON MARCH 7TH, 2022, 14 PLUS MONTHS AGO, WHICH I DID SAY THAT I WAS VERY SAD TO HAVE THIS ANNEXATION.

I NEEDED SOMETHING.

CAN WE DO A MORATORIUM? CAN WE DO SOMETHING? SINCE THEN, I DID MY DUE DILIGENCE AND LAST SUMMER I GOT ACCUSED OF NOT BEING AT MEETINGS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, UM, MR. SHAW, MR. OTTO AND MR. LYONS, WAS I ANY PART OF ANY CONSPIRACY OF NOT BEING AT MEETINGS? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

BECAUSE I WAS HERE FOR ALL THOSE VOTES.

SO WE MOVE AHEAD AND I LEARN ALL THIS INFORMATION.

UM, MAYOR CANCELED MEETINGS BACK IN MARCH.

AND, UM, MR. SHAW AND MR. CAMPBELL AND BRIAN AND I MET TO WORK FORWARD, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THESE THREE.

WAS MY FIRST COMMENT IF THIS WAS ABOUT CARRIAGE TRAIL, I WAS A NO.

AND I WASN'T GOING TO DISCUSS IT.

THE ANNEXATION WOULD'VE BEEN DONE THEN, BECAUSE THE ANNEXATION COULD NOT MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF A SERVICES LETTER, YOU MADE THAT MOTION TO RECONSIDER NO ONE ELSE.

I SAID I WAS A NO VOTE RIGHT FROM THE WORD GO.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS UNKNOWN HERE ON THIS COUNCIL.

I, THIS WEEKEND, TOTALLY GOT SLAMMED BY THE MAYOR ABOUT, NOBODY KNEW THIS.

I WAS WASTING BETHEL'S TIME.

I WAS WASTING BETHEL'S MONEY.

I WAS DOING, YOU KNOW, I KNEW I DID THIS.

I WOULD LIKE A PUBLIC APOLOGY BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN SLAMMED TWICE FALSELY ACCUSED OF INFORMATION THAT WAS NOT CORRECT.

AND I AM TIRED OF IT.

I AM TIRED.

I AM ELECTED HERE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CAUSE I'M THE NEWBIE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CAUSE I'M A WOMAN.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REASON IS, BUT I'M DONE.

I WOULD LIKE A PUBLIC APOLOGY FOR EVERYTHING I'VE GONE THROUGH.

AND I WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT I'M NOT GOING TO GO ON FACEBOOK AND MAKE THESE COMMENTS.

IT'S FOR HERE AT THE ES.

I WILL ANSWER ANYTHING HERE AT THE ES.

BUT I AM DONE WITH THIS ARGUING ON FACEBOOK.

ABSOLUTELY DONE.

AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE THE TEXT, I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO EMAIL THEM TO MY H H O H EMAIL ALL THE TEXTS BETWEEN ME AND MR. GORE OVER THE LAST YEAR.

AND YOU CAN DO A P R R.

I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT.

SO THE, THANK YOU.

SO I, FROM A SOCIAL MEDIA PERSPECTIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK ALL OF US ARE OPEN TO CRITICISM FROM RESIDENTS.

I CERTAINLY HAVE, HAVE, UH, HAVE TAKEN MY FAIR SHARE OF CRITICISM AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS, UM, ANYONE ON THIS ICE.

AND, AND MOST PEOPLE UP HERE HAVE TAKEN THEIR FAIR SHARE OF CRITICISM ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

SO, UM, WHAT I WOULD ASK IS, AGAIN, IS JUST TO, TO OWN IT.

SO YOU AND I HAD A CONVERSATION, EVEN ANITA, AFTER BETHEL TOOK THE VOTE.

AND THEN YOU TOLD ME YOU HAD GIVEN ME A CALL, YOU WERE GONNA BE GOING TO FLORIDA.

YOU SAID, I'LL CALL YOU WHEN I GET BACK.

THAT WAS ALMOST A MONTH AGO.

YOU'VE NEVER CONTACTED ME, YOU'VE NEVER REACHED OUT TO ME.

YOU'VE NEVER, UH, WANTED TO HAVE A, A SINGLE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.

SO THE WHOLE, WELL, HOW LONG YOU, YOU, YOU SPOKE, LET ME FINISH.

SO YES, THERE WAS A TEXT MESSAGE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, SO IF WE'LL JUST GO BACK, IF WE WANT TO PLAY THIS OUT HERE, WE CAN.

UM, THERE WAS A VOTE ON THE SERVICES LETTER, AND DURING THAT VOTE, IT FAILED FOUR TO THREE.

MM-HMM.

, MR. SHAW GOT UP AND WALKED OUTTA THE MEETING, PREVENTED THE THAI VOTE.

SO IT FAILED FOUR TO THREE.

IT WAS AFTER THAT YOU DECIDED YOU'D MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER.

YOU MADE THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER.

AND THEN IT PASSED FIVE TO TWO OR FIVE TO THREE AT THE NEXT, AT THE NEXT MEETING.

SO THE ANNEXATION DISCUSSION CONTINUED AFTER THE SERVICES AGREEMENT.

HAD THE SERVICES AGREEMENT NOT PASSED,

[01:10:01]

IT WAS DURING THAT DISCUSSION, UH, DURING THAT TEXT, YOUR CONVERSATION WASN'T A CONCERN FOR THE TOWNSHIP PRESENCE OF BETHEL.

YOU MENTIONED YOU HAD LIVED ON A FARM AND YOU UNDERSTOOD FARMING, BUT YOUR BIG CONCERN WAS, WHAT IT CAME DOWN TO WAS JUST HOW MUCH MONEY THE DEVELOPER WAS GONNA MAKE.

SO YOUR BIG CONCERN WAS ABOUT THE DEVELOPER AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THE DEVELOPER WOULD MAKE VERSUS THE ACTUAL RESIDENTS AND THE PEOPLE, OR THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WOULD BE GENERATED BY THE CITY.

YOU ASKED ME SPECIFICALLY, COULD WE PUT A MOR A MORATORIUM ON THE ANNEXATION.

AND I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT THE BETHEL TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES WOULD ASK FOR ANYWAY.

SO I WOULD CERTAINLY BE OPEN TO THAT DISCUSSION OF A MORATORIUM.

AND YOUR NEXT COMMENT WAS THAT, THAT IS WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A COMPROMISE.

AND I WILL VOTE YES TO APPROVE THIS ANNEXATION.

THERE WAS NO DUE DILIGENCE ON AT THAT POINT.

THERE WAS NO INFORMATION THAT ANYONE HAD ABOUT THE ANNEXATION OTHER THAN YOU REQUESTING A MORATORIUM.

WE'VE HAD OTHER MEETINGS SINCE THEN.

IT'S BEEN ON THE MINUTES.

MR. UH, SARKOWSKI HAD LET COUNSEL KNOW THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH THEIR, THE TOWNSHIP TO DEVELOP AN ANNEXATION AGREEMENT THAT BETHEL TOWNSHIP WOULD SUPPORT AND APPROVE.

AND NOT ONE TIME DID YOU VOICE AN OPPOSITION.

NOW, HOLD ON.

NOW, NOW, ONE TIME DID YOU SAY NO, NOT ONE TIME DID YOU APPROACH ME AND TELL ME, NO, NOT ONE TIME DID YOU TELL ME YOU WERE NOT INTERESTED.

SO BRIAN SHOWS THE AGREEMENT THAT HAS THE MORATORY MINUTE.

YOUR CONCERN WAS ABOUT WATER AND SEWER.

THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT PUT ALL THE WATER AND SEWER ABILITY ON BETHEL TOWNSHIP SO THEY COULD PROVIDE WATER AND SEWER SO THEY COULD PAY AND CH CHARGE THOSE RESIDENTS FOR WATER AND SEWER TO GENERATE REVENUE FOR BETHEL TOWNSHIP.

WE KNEW ALL OF THIS GOING FORWARD.

YOU NEVER VOICED ANY OPPOSITION.

YOU SAW THAT PRESENTATION.

YOU NEVER SAID NO, YOU NEVER SAID, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THIS.

IF ANYBODY OUT THERE LISTENING THINKS THAT THIS COUNCIL OR HALF OF THIS COUNCIL THAT IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS ANNEXATION WOULD HAVE LET THIS MOVE FORWARD, WOULD'VE EXPENDED STAFF TIME WHO'S ALREADY UNDERSTAFFED, THAT WE KNOW OF ATTORNEY TIME, ATTORNEY MONEY, CITY MONEY, BETHEL TOWNSHIP MONEY, BETHEL TOWNSHIP TIME, BETHEL TOWNSHIP ATTORNEYS TO MOVE FORWARD.

IF YOU, WE DIDN'T BELIEVE YOU WERE GONNA VOTE YES BASED ON YOUR INFORMATION TO US AND YOUR REQUEST.

AND THAT INFORMATION IS WHAT WAS IN THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT.

THEN WE LET BETHEL TOWNSHIP AND THEIR TRUSTEES CALL A MEETING, HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT VOTE, GET LAMBASTED BY THEIR PEOPLE AND THEIR TOWNSHIP BECAUSE THEY VOTED YES ON THIS BECAUSE THEY BELIEVED WE WERE GONNA DO WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GONNA DO.

AND THAT WAS APPROVED THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT AND GIVE THEM THE MORATORIUM AND THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE WATER AND SEWER.

ALL OF THAT WENT THROUGH, ALL OF THAT WAS PUT ON BETHEL.

BETHEL MADE THAT VOTE.

THEY APPROVED IT THREE TO ZERO ON MAY 23RD.

THEN THE VERY NEXT DAY I CONTACTED YOU TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF WHAT THEY DID.

IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSATION YOU AND I HAD HAD IN THE PAST, YOU SAID, I'M ON VACATION, I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT ANYTHING.

AND I SAID, WELL, I I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU KNEW WHAT BETHEL TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES, HOW THEY VOTED LAST NIGHT.

SO YOU SAID, WELL, IF IT'S ABOUT THE ANNEXATION I'M IN KNOW OF, THAT'S THE FIRST TIME IN A YEAR AND A HALF YOU HAD EVER RELAYED TO ME THAT YOU WERE A NO VOTE ON ANNEXATION, BECAUSE THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT HAD ALL THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS THAT YOU ASKED FOR.

AND THEN YOU VOTED NO.

AND THEN WHILE I'M GONE, BETH VAN HERRON, ONE OF THE TRUSTEES COMES TO THE PODIUM AND BLAST THIS COUNSEL FOR BEING SHADY.

SHE CALLED US SHADY ON FACEBOOK.

SHE'S, SO, THE CRITICISM ON FACEBOOK GOES WELL BEYOND ANYBODY ON THIS CITY COUNCIL.

SHE CALLS US SHADY.

AND IF YOU, YOU DON'T THINK I'M GONNA DEFEND MYSELF AND THE REST OF THIS COUNCIL AGAINST BEING SHADY WHEN NO ONE KNEW THAT YOU WERE GONNA VOTE NO, ESPECIALLY ME.

MAYBE OTHERS DID, BUT YOU DIDN'T RELAY THAT TO ME AND WE LET THIS ANNEXATION AGREEMENT GO FORTH.

WE LET THE TRUSTEES MAKE A PUBLIC VOTE TO APPROVE THE ANNEXATION.

AND THE NEXT DAY YOU SAID, NOPE, I'M A NO.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

THAT'S THE TIMELINE.

AND I'M NOT APOLOGIZING FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH WHEN I SPEAK THE TRUTH.

I'M BEING TRANS, I'M BEING MEAN, AND I'M BEING, I'M CALLING PEOPLE OUT AND, AND ALL THAT STUFF.

BUT WHEN, WHEN MY OPPONENTS AND EVERYBODY ELSE WANTS TO BE TRANSPARENT, OH, THAT'S JUST TRANSPARENCY.

LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO KNOW.

WELL, WHEN I DO IT, I'M, I'M BEING MEAN.

IT'S NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE A WOMAN, IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL WHO HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ME WHO REQUESTED A MORATORIUM AND EXCHANGE FOR A YES

[01:15:01]

VOTE.

AND WE DID WHAT YOU ASKED.

AND THEN YOU SAID NO, AFTER THOSE PEOPLE VOTED YES IN A PUBLIC MEETING.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED SINCE, SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP EXECUTIVE SESSION ON FACEBOOK, UM, DID I NOT ASK FOR THE NET INCOME THAT I WANTED TO SEE ALL THE EXPENSES? WE KEPT HEARING THE GROSS, DID I ASK FOR THE NET AND SOMEBODY EVEN AGREED WITH ME, WHAT WAS THE NET INCOME? SO ACTUALLY MS. WELLS MADE A VERY GOOD POINT THIS EVENING.

SHE TALKED ABOUT, UM, COST ANALYSIS AND ALL THOSE THINGS, AND SHE BROUGHT UP, UH, MR. SCHAFFER'S, UH, POST, I THINK THERE'S A GENERAL LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THIS ANNEXATION IS.

SHE SAID, WE'RE JUST ANNEXING FARMLAND.

AND ACTUALLY THAT'S TRUE.

WE'RE NOT ANNEXING PROPERTY THAT THEY CAN JUST START BUILDING HOUSES ON.

IT'S 260 ACRES OF FARMLAND.

THE AMOUNT OF LEGISLATION THAT WOULD NEED TO BE PASSED BEFORE THE FIRST HOUSE IS EVER BUILT UP THERE IS MONUMENTAL.

WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS, DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IMPACT FEES.

HAVE WE NOT, RICHARD MAYOR? I'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER.

SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IMPACT FEES.

WE COULD CHARGE THE DEVELOPER, UH, ANY AMOUNT PER LOT THAT WE FELT NECESSARY TO OFFSET ANY COSTS THAT MIGHT BE INCURRED TO THE CITY.

BUT WE DON'T KNOW THOSE THINGS YET.

THOSE THINGS HAVEN'T BEEN DISCUSSED YET BECAUSE THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT HASN'T BEEN APPROVED AT ANY POINT IN TIME.

IMPACT FEES TO HELP PAY FOR A NEW FIRE STATION, HELP COVER A STREET MAINTENANCE, ALL KINDS OF OTHER COSTS CAN BE CHARGED TO THE DEVELOPER IN THE FORM OF IMPACT FEES TO REGAIN THAT MONEY BACK AT ANY TIME DURING THE PROCESS OF US ACQUIRING 260 ACRES OF FARMLAND, THAT ANNEXATION CAN BE VOTED NO AT MULTIPLE DIFFERENT TIMES THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS.

SO WE ARE SO FAR AWAY.

SO WHAT WE DO KNOW THOUGH, IS REVENUE.

WE GOT A VERY GOOD PLACE TO START.

WE KNOW WHAT THE REVENUE WILL BE GENERATED BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY GOT 1100 HOUSES UP THERE THAT WE'RE COLLECTING THE SAME AMOUNT OF PROPERTY TAX ON AND TAXES HAVE GONE UP.

IT'S GONNA BE MORE MONEY.

SO WE KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE.

SO IT'S VERY EASY FOR US TO ESTIMATE HOW MUCH MONEY IN REVENUE THIS CITY IS GONNA OBTAIN.

SO THE NET CAN'T BE CALCULATED.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW WHAT THE COSTS ARE, AND WE HAVE A WAY TO HELP OFFSET THOSE COSTS THROUGH IMPACT FEES TO THE DEVELOPER IF WE EVER GET TO THAT STAGE.

MAYOR, IF I MAY? YES, RICHARD.

UH, JU JUST A CLARIFY, UH, CLARIFYING POINT ON THAT AND, UM, IF COUNCILMAN CAMPBELL WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IT, I, I, HE'S MORE THAN HAPPY TO DURING THAT, UH, A CONVERSATION WITH HIM, HIM AND THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER, I MADE MENTION DURING THAT MARCH MEETING WHEN I WAS PROVIDED SOME ESTIMATES, VERY SOFT ESTIMATES OF IMPACT FEES, I SAID AT THAT TIME THAT I COULD POTENTIALLY BE A SOFT YES, ONCE THE ADDITIONAL RESEARCH IS DONE.

AND I BELIEVE AT THAT TIME, UM, IT WAS MADE MENTION, UH, BY MR. CAMPBELL, I CAN'T EVEN SUPPORT THIS ANNEXATION BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ALL THE RESEARCH.

UM, SO THAT WAS THE, THE DISCUSSION IN MARCH, FROM MARCH TO THIS DATE.

I'VE NOT SEEN ANY UPDATED FIGURES OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT HAD LED ME TO CONTINUE THAT SOFT YES.

SUPPORT MR. CAMPBELL.

WOULD THAT BE A CORRECT STATEMENT THAT I'VE, UM, MADE MENTIONED? SURE.

MARK.

BRIAN, HAVE YOU COMPLETED YOUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THE ANNEXATION? UH, WE HAVE NOT AT THIS TIME.

RICHARD AND ANITA, ONE, ONE THING I DO REMEMBER WHEN BRIAN, YOU, MYSELF, AND ANITA WAS TALKING, WAS BRIAN, YOU BROUGHT SOMETHING UP AND THAT WAS THAT BETHEL TOWNSHIP WAS INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING THE ANNEXATION.

YOU TOLD US THAT AT THAT MEETING.

AND I REMEMBER SAYING, ARE, ARE, ARE YOU SERIOUS? YOU SAID YES.

IF WE WOULD DO A MORATORIUM, THEY WOULD SUPPORT THE ANNEXATION.

I REMEMBER ANITA SAYING, CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT, ANITA? SO THIS IS FLUID AND WE'RE NOT ANYWHERE NEAR ANY COMPLETION.

AND I HAVE NOT MADE A DECISION ON THE ANNEXATION.

AND RICHARD, I THINK YOU'VE WENT FROM A HARD NO TO A SOFT YES.

YES, SIR.

AND PROBABLY PRETTY PARALLEL WITH WHERE I'M AT BASED ON OUR DISCUSSIONS.

UH, AND, AND, AND IF I MAY, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR YOU, WE WERE LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UH, A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION, UH, WITH BETHEL AND UH, UNFORTUNATELY THE CLOCK HAD RAN OUT.

YEP.

AND YOU DID MENTION AT THAT MEETING, AND YOU MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED TO ME ONE TIME BEFORE THAT IMPACT

[01:20:01]

FEES MM-HMM.

, AND WE HAD CLARIFICATION, WE HAD BRIAN CLARIFY WHAT THOSE IMPACT FEES COULD BE.

AND WHERE WE ENDED WAS IT MAY BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN AN IMPACT FEE.

VERY MUCH SO, BUT JUST SOME WAY TO COVER COST AND OVERHEAD.

SO I THINK WE COULD GET TO A NET NUMBER.

THE ONLY NUMBER WE COULD HAVE IS A GROSS NUMBER IF WE KNEW HOW MANY HOMES.

AND THEN USE THE ESTIMATE OF HOW MANY TAXES WE COLLECT FROM THE FIRST CARRIAGE TRAILS AND, AND TO, TO ADDITIONAL, UH, CONVERSATION, IF I MAY.

MAYOR.

UM, I BELIEVE EVEN AFTER A MEETING, UH, YOU AND I STOOD ALMOST NEAR THE AMERICAN FLAG, AND I RELAYED TO YOU THAT SAME CONVERSATION I JUST MENTIONED TO MR. CAMPBELL, UH, THAT I WAS A SOFT YES.

AT THAT TIME.

AND I BELIEVE YOU HAD TOLD ME, QUOTE, PLEASE KEEP AN OPEN MIND, UM, AS YOU'RE GOING INTO THIS.

DID I HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOU? YEAH.

HA HA.

HAVE I HAD ANY, I THINK WE'RE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER OVER THERE.

BUT, BUT DID I HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION WITH YOU PERSONALLY? YOU AND I THAT SAID I WAS A HARD NO, I WAS A NO, I WAS A HELL NO.

I WAS A SOFT YES.

ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT CONVERSATION IN YOUR MIND STOOD, STOOD STILL AT THAT TIME? YES.

THE, THE LAST, THAT'S THE LAST CONVERSATION YOU AND I HAD.

AND, AND I WASN'T THROWING YOU ON THE BUS.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO SAY, I KNOW THAT, THAT YOU HAD DISCUSSED THE IDEA OF AN IMPACT FEE.

YOU COULD BE A CHAMPION FOR THE BETHEL RESIDENCE AS YOU HAVE BEEN STATING YES, YOU'LL REMEMBER THIS CONVERSATION CUZ IT WAS THE SAME TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS MM-HMM.

JUST TO SAY THAT I THINK THERE, THERE ARE TONS OF OPTIONS THAT ARE ON THE TABLE OF WAYS FOR US TO OFFSET COSTS ONCE WE KNOW WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE.

BUT THE BLESSED PLACE TO START IS THE REVENUE SIDE, AND WE KNOW WHAT IT WILL GENERATE IN REVENUE.

AND, AND, AND I BELIEVE WE HAD THAT VERY LENGTHY CONVERSATION, UH, REGARDING THAT.

UM, AND I, AND I TOLD YOU OF MY, MY ISSUES AND MY BELIEFS OF ADDITIONAL GROWTH.

HOWEVER, I WANTED TO SEE THE NUMBERS FIRST.

AND I BELIEVE I CONVEYED THAT TO EVERYBODY I THINK ON THIS D AND EVEN IN THE PUBLIC.

UM, I, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT CONVERSATION WAS OUT THERE IN TOTAL TRANSPARENCY.

UH, THOSE WERE VERY, UH, CIVIL CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE HAD.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THE, THE WHOLE CONVERSATION AND THE WHOLE DEMEANING OF, UM, THE ANNEXATION, YOU KNOW, FAILING ON COUNCILWOMAN KITCHEN, I, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T HOLD COMPLETE MERIT AND MERIT.

SO, SO THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

SURE.

AND I, AND I RESPECT THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY WHAT I DID.

MY, MY ISSUE IS THAT HAD SHE SAID NO OR RELAYED HER INFORMATION TO US BEFORE WE LET THE AGREEMENT BE SIGNED AND SENT TO BETHEL BEFORE WE LET THE BETHEL TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES HOLD A PUBLIC MEETING AND VOTE YES.

NONE OF THAT EVER WOULD'VE HAD TO HAVE HAPPENED.

THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE REAL ISSUE HERE.

AND THAT'S THE REASON THAT I, THAT'S THE REASON I SAID, WELL, THEN I'M JUST, THERE'S NO REASON TO PUT IT ON, ON A MEETING AGENDA.

AND I PULLED IT BECAUSE THERE WASN'T THE VOTES.

HAD WE KNOWN THAT BEFOREHAND, WE NEVER EVEN WOULD'VE GOTTEN THERE.

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT.

MS. VAN HERON, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH HER.

THIS WHOLE THING STARTED BECAUSE BETH REACHED OUT TO ME.

BETH CALLED ME.

I SAW THE VOICEMAILS REQUESTING A MEETING WITH ME AND THE CITY MANAGER, MR. CAMPBELL, ABOUT THE ANNEXATION.

SHE REACHED OUT TO US ABOUT THIS.

THAT'S WHERE ALL THIS STUFF STARTED FROM.

SO, IF, IF BETH HADN'T HAVE CAME TO A MEETING WHILE I WAS GONE, I, I REALLY WISH I WOULD'VE BEEN HERE TO ADDRESS THIS THEN.

AND LAMB AMBASSADOR, ALL OF YOU GUYS ABOUT US LEAVING THEM HANG OUT TO DRY BECAUSE THEY MADE A, THEY WERE OPERATING IN GOOD FAITH AND MADE AND HAD A MEETING AND A PUBLIC MEETING WHERE THEY TOOK A LASHING FROM THEIR OWN CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE THEY VOTED YES FOR IT.

WHY WOULD WE HAVE PUT THEM IN THAT POSITION? WHY WOULD WE LET THAT GO FORWARD IF WE KNEW THERE WASN'T SUPPORT TO BEGIN WITH? THAT WAS THE POINT THAT WOULD'VE MADE NO SENSE AT ALL.

I'VE HEARD NOTHING ABOUT WE SHOULD BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

WELL, WE COULD HAVE STARTED BY JUST BEING HONEST AND SAYING, HEY, DON'T, DON'T VOTE ON THAT BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ENOUGH VOTES TO SUPPORT IT.

THAT WOULD'VE BEEN BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

BUT WE DIDN'T, THE FIRST TIME SHE TOLD ME SHE WAS NOT INTERESTED OR SHE WAS GONNA VOTE NO WAS THE DAY AFTER THEY VOTED ON MAY 23RD.

SHE MESSAGED ME ON MAY 24TH AND SAID SHE WAS A NO VOTE.

THAT'S THE ISSUE.

SO, AND, AND, AND I JUST, JUST FOR MY OWN CLARIFICATION, UH, MARY, CUZ UH, I'M NOT AGREEING OR DISAGREEING WITH ANYTHING YOU'VE SAID THUS FAR, BUT MY QUESTION WOULD BE IF COUNCILWOMAN KITCHEN TOLD YOU NO AT THAT TIME, WHY DIDN'T YOU CONTACT ME? HE DIDN'T CONTACT ME EITHER, RICHARD.

HE DIDN'T CONTACT ME.

SO, UH, I, I MEAN, I'M JUST, GREAT QUESTION AND I WILL GO BACK.

I, OKAY, SO, SO LET'S, LET'S HAVE THE FULL CONVERSATION HERE THEN.

SO WHEN WE WERE STANDING THERE HAVING THE CONVERSATION, RICHARD, I ACTUALLY SAID TO YOU,

[01:25:01]

AND I SAID, SO IF YOU WANNA BE A CHAMPION FOR THE BETHEL RESIDENCE, BECAUSE I BELIEVE, AND YOU AGREED THAT THIS ANNEXATION WAS GONNA COME BACK AGAIN WHEN THE NEW COUNSEL WAS HERE.

I SAID, THEN WHY DON'T YOU REALLY CONSIDER VOTING YES FOR THIS? BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY TO SECURE A MORATORIUM.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT ANITA HAD ASKED FOR AND THAT'S WHAT WAS GONNA BE IN THE AGREEMENT.

AND YOU AND YOU SAID TO ME, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE NEED TO VOTE FOR THIS NOW BECAUSE IT'S GONNA COME BACK WHEN, WHEN I'M NOT HERE ANYWAY.

DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT TO ME? CORRECT.

CUZ THAT HAD BEEN STATED TO MYSELF.

SO SINCE YOU SAID THAT TO ME, WHY WOULD I HAVE REACHED OUT TO YOU TO SAY, HEY RICHARD, ARE YOU GONNA VOTE YES ON THIS? YOU HAD ALREADY TOLD ME IT DIDN'T MATTER BECAUSE YOU BELIEVED IT WAS GONNA COME BACK IN JANUARY WHEN YOU WEREN'T HERE.

WELL, SO IT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE FOR ME TO REACH OUT TO YOU, ESPECIALLY WHEN I HAD A TEXT FROM HER THAT SAID SHE WOULD VOTE YES IF THERE WAS A MORATORIUM.

AND, AND, AND MAYOR, MY CLARIFYING POINT, AND I I'M NOT TRYING TO GET IN THE WEEDS, IS JUST EARLY IN, IN OUR DIALOGUE, YOU HAD AGREED THAT I WAS A SOFT YES.

AT THAT TIME.

AND, AND I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN BEING A CHAMPION FOR OUR NEIGHBORS, HAD ALL THE INFORMATION BEEN PRESENT.

BUT AFTER THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOU AND MS. KITCHEN, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN AN OPPORTUNE TIME TO GIVE ME A CALL AND SAY, HEY RICHARD, WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION.

I KNOW YOU SPOKE WITH MARK BACK IN MARCH.

UM, HAS ANYTHING CHANGED? AND THAT, IN MY OPINION, PROBABLY WOULD'VE GIVEN YOU A SOLID DEFINITION OF WHERE THIS, WHERE THIS WOULD GO BECAUSE THAT CONVERSATION HAD STARTED FROM YOUR END.

I DIDN'T INITIATE THAT CONVER, AM I CORRECT? SO JUNE 27TH, TOMORROW I BELIEVE, IS IT TOMORROW? TOMORROW'S THE DEADLINE.

SO IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T MATTER ANYWAY, SO NOT ON THE AGENDA.

WELL, IT'S, YEAH.

AND, AND I BELIEVE JUST AS YOU SAID, THIS PETITION WILL PROBABLY COME BACK.

NO.

AND, AND I, I DON'T KNOW, AND I'VE SAID IT, I'VE SAID IT ON FACEBOOK.

I I DON'T SOCIAL MEDIA, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE APPETITE OF A NEW COUNCIL'S GONNA BE WHEN IT COMES TO TYING THE HANDS OF THIS COUNCIL FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS WHEN IT COMES TO A MORATORIUM THAT TIME IS MAY HAVE COME AND GONE.

WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE NEW COUNCIL DECIDES THEY WANT TO DO.

AND THAT'S NOT A THREAT AS SOMEONE LAID IT OUT TO ME.

THAT'S JUST BEING HONEST.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THE APPETITE FOR A MORATORIUM EXISTS COME JANUARY.

THAT'S WHY I SAID RICHARD, THINK ABOUT VOTING.

BECAUSE IF YOU DO, THAT'LL ENSURE THERE'S A MORATORIUM MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WAS IN THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT.

MRS. KITCHEN TOLD ME IN THE TEXT, SHE WOULD GET BACK TO ME AS SOON AS SHE GOT BACK FROM FLORIDA, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN LIKE, I THINK I MESSAGED HER ON WEDNESDAY.

SHE WAS GONNA BACK THE FOLLOWING WEEK.

I'M STILL WAITING FOR THAT PHONE CALL.

I, I MEAN, I WAS JUST IN CLARIFYING, I APPRECIATE THE CIVIL DIALOGUE.

MARY IS, UM, I THINK CONVERSATION WITH ME PROBABLY WOULD'VE, UH, HEATED A LOT OF THE, UH, UM, PRESS AND SOCIAL MEDIA CONVERSATIONS.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, AS I STATED WITH MR. CAMPBELL AND, UM, FACTS WOULD BE KNOWN THE TIME, TIME HAS RAN OUT ON THIS AND IT WILL HAVE TO BE REAPPLIED FOR HIM.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE CONVERSATION.

I AGREE.

RICHARD, RICHARD, I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, GLENN AHEAD.

UM, WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE MINUTIA, IF HE SAID, SHE SAID, I TOO TOOK ISSUE WITH THE, UH, THE ARTICLE IN THE DAYTON DA AND IT WAS, IT WAS NOT BECAUSE OF WHO SAID WHAT, BUT THE FACT THAT AS ALREADY STATED AS OF TONIGHT AFTER THIS DAY IS OVER, THE, UH, THE MOTION IS DEAD.

RIGHT? THE, THIS CURRENT ACTION IS DEAD ON ON AS OF AS OF TOMORROW.

SO NO ACTIONS BEING TAKEN.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

GOING TO LET ANOTHER, AND THAT IS ABOUT THE THIRD OR FOURTH TIME THAT MS. VAN HERRIN HAS ATTACKED ME PERSONALLY.

AND IT WASN'T ON, UH, LAST WEEK'S, UH, WORK SESSION AGENDA.

IT WASN'T ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

I'M JUST REALLY CURIOUS AS TO WHY YOU FELT THE NEED TO GO OUT, CONTACT A MEMBER OF THE PRESS AND, AND LAMBAST ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER WHEN THIS WASN'T EVEN A TOPIC THAT WE WERE GONNA BE DEALING WITH.

WELL MAINLY BE, SO THE, THE TIMELINE OF THAT ARTICLE, UH, FOR WHATEVER REASON, I MEAN THAT INFOR THAT INFORMATION, UH, THAT INTERVIEW WAS GIVEN ALMOST A MONTH AGO.

WHY? IT JUST CAME OUT IN THE PAPER.

NOW, I, I DON'T KNOW, YOU'D HAVE TO CONTACT THE REPORTER ABOUT THAT.

UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN ALMOST A MONTH.

UH, WHEN THAT CAME OUT, I WASN'T EVEN HERE.

IN FACT, I GAVE THAT INTERVIEW WHILE I WAS IN TEXAS.

SO THAT'S HOW LONG AGO THAT THAT'S BEEN.

UM, SO AGAIN, WHY IT TOOK THREE WEEKS OR THREE AND A HALF WEEKS TO, TO PUT THAT ARTICLE IN PAPER, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT MY RESPONSE, AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, PEOPLE CAN BELIEVE WHATEVER THEY WANNA BELIEVE, BUT I'M TELLING YOU, THE RESPONSE WAS BASED UPON BETH VAN HERRON COMING TO THAT PODIUM AND CALLING US SHADY BECAUSE IF WE LET THEM VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE SUPPORT OF, AND IT WASN'T THIS COUNCIL AT THAT POINT, THE REASON WE LET IT GO FORWARD WAS BECAUSE MRS. KITCHEN TOLD ME IF A MOR IF A YES VOTE IN EXCHANGE FOR A MORATORIUM, IT WAS PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

SO, SO, SO THAT'S THE REASON.

SO I'M NOT

[01:30:01]

UH, WELL, AND HERE AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

SO I'M NOT GONNA JUST CONTINUE TO STEP BY AND LET THAT TAKE PLACE AND BLAME ME OR ANY OTHER OF YOU.

WHEN HAD I KNOWN THAT WAS HER POSITION LONG BEFORE AND NEVER WOULD'VE GOT TO THAT POINT THERE.

I SEE TWO TRUSTEES SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT, AND I'M PRETTY SURE THEY WOULD'VE LIKED TO NOT HAVE TO HAVE HAD THAT MEETING AND VOTED THREE TO ZERO TO APPROVE AN ANNEXATION AGREEMENT THAT THEIR TOWNSHIP WAS COMPLETELY AGAINST.

I READ SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS AND I'M SURE, AND I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE KNOWN THAT ALL THIS STUFF WAS BEING NEGOTIATED AND AGREED UPON, UM, WITHOUT AN ENTIRETY OF COUNSEL BEHIND IT.

THAT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE TOO.

APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE WOULD LIKE AND, AND I GET IT.

BUT, BUT THAT INFORMATION WAS MADE AND MR, NOW YOU WANT PEOPLE TO STAY OFF OF YOUR TIME.

MR. KOWSKI MADE THAT OPEN AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO SAY I WASN'T HAPPY WITH THE ARTICLE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO PURPOSE FOR IT.

AND THERE HAVE, AND THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS IN RECENT HISTORY ABOUT, HEY, WHY DON'T WE, UH, STOP WITH THIS SHENANIGANS OF, OF MAKING OURSELVES LOOK BAD IN THE PUBLIC THROUGH NEWS ARTICLES AND ALL THIS KIND OF MESS.

AND, AND THIS WAS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE SO THAT I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY DISAPPOINTMENT FROM THAT STANDPOINT.

YES, ANITA.

WELL, ONE REASON I HAVE NOT CALLED YOU BACK WAS CAUSE WITHIN 24 HOURS WE GOT A THING SAYING THIS WAS DEAD.

YOU'RE NOT BRINGING IT FORTH.

SO IF THAT WAS THE CASE, WHY DID I NEED TO CALL BACK? I MEAN, WELL, OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? YES, MARK, THIS IS STILL CITY OFFICIAL.

YES, IT IS.

I THINK SO.

, I KNOW YOU'RE A TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE.

WHERE'S THE OTHER PERSON, JULIE? AYE, UH, I'D LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY PUBLICLY TO THANK BOTH OF YOU.

I'VE TALKED TO BETH AND THANKED HER FOR PASSING THAT LEGISLATION.

UM, I KNOW, I THINK I KNOW WHY YOU DID IT.

UM, KNOWING THAT THE, UH, ANNEXATION IN YOUR MIND WAS GONNA MOVE FORWARD, THIS AT LEAST PROTECTED YOUR BOUNDARIES FOR A LONG, LONG TIME, NORTH OF 40.

AND, AND I RESPECT THE COMPROMISE THAT YOU GUYS SHOWED, AND I'M SORRY THAT IT PLAYED OUT THE WAY IT DID.

UM, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANYONE ELSE ON THE DAIS, BUT IF THIS DOES COME BACK, BECAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND, BRIAN, THAT IT'S DEAD AS OF MAYBE TOMORROW DID I HEAR THAT? IF IT DOES COME BACK, I, FOR ONE, WOULD SUPPORT A MORATORIUM.

UH, AS I TOLD BETH, I DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME TO EXAMINE THE DOCUMENT, BUT I HAD INITIALLY SPOKE TO BETH ABOUT A MORATORIUM AND THAT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF A 40 YEAR MORATORIUM OF WHAT? 40 YEAR.

AND THEN I THINK 50 WAS TALKED ABOUT.

I'M NOT SURE YOUR AGREEMENT THAT YOU PASSED ISN'T FOREVER, SO I'M NOT SURE I SUPPORT THAT.

UM, IT IT WAS 50 YEARS AND THEN IT COULD BE REMOVED.

YEAH, I THINK WHAT IT IS, IT'S 50 YEARS AND BOTH SIDES HAVE TO AGREE TO DISCONTINUE IT.

SO IT IS FOREVER UNLESS BOTH SIDES AGREE TO STOP IT.

AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE EXPLAINED TO ME, BRIAN, WHEN WE'VE TALKED.

BUT I DO SUPPORT A MORATORIUM, I THINK IT IS THE NEIGHBORLY THING.

I HAVEN'T YET DECIDED WHAT POSITION I'M GOING TO TAKE ON THE, UH, ANNEXATION.

UH, AS ANITA BROUGHT UP, THE GROSS IS VERY EASY TO FIGURE.

THERE'S X AMOUNT OF HOMES.

WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD UNDERSTANDING, BRIAN, OF WHAT EACH HOME BRINGS INTO THE CITY.

WE BRIGHTS THE WATER AND SEWER IS NOT AN ISSUE AND WE WON'T BE PUTTING ANY TIF MONEY INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AT THAT SITE.

WE WOULD BE SPREADING THAT OUT THROUGH THE CITY OF EBER HEIGHTS, MAINLY ON WATER MAINS.

AND, AND YOU'VE DONE YOUR HOMEWORK AND YOU'VE PAID AND HAD STUDIES DONE THAT PROVES THAT CAN BE DONE.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

BUT NOT TO DEBATE THE TERMS OF WHAT YOU PASSED, BUT I APPLAUD YOU.

I I BELIEVE I KNOW WHY YOU DID IT.

IT'S HONORABLE.

I THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.

UM, I'M GONNA SIDE, UM, YOU GUYS MICROPHONE, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE SOME COMMENTS YEAH, PLEASE COME TO THE MIC.

I DIDN'T WANNA DO THIS.

WE WANNA HEAR HOW ABOUT THAT? AND, AND I DIDN'T MAKE MY COMMENTS FOR YOU TO HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING.

THAT'S OKAY.

UH, AND MY OTHER TRUSTEES MAKING SURE THAT I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR HER.

D E C IS UP THERE ALREADY GETTING AGREEMENTS OR TRYING TO GET AGREEMENTS AND TIE UP MORE OF THE GROUND WITHOUT EVEN GETTING THIS.

I'M DON BLACK.

I'LL SPEAK FOR ME.

UH, YOU'RE KILLING US WITH THIS ANNEXATION.

I MEAN, YOU'RE JUST ABSOLUTELY KILLING US TO JUST KEEP TAKING THE LAND.

AND I KNOW THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE RELATIONSHIPS WITH D E C AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT

[01:35:01]

IT'S NOT FAIR TO OUR TOWNSHIP.

IT'S NOT FAIR TO OUR RESIDENTS.

IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SELL THE GROUND.

NOW, I'M NOT FEELING REAL SORRY FOR THEM, BUT HE'S TYING IT UP WITHOUT TELLING THEM HOW MUCH MONEY YOU'LL GIVE THEM, WHEN IT'S GONNA GO THROUGH OR ANYTHING ELSE.

I UNDERSTAND HOW TO BUY AND SELL SOMETHING IF I WANT TO BUY IT.

WHEN I PAY THE SELLER, HE GIVES ME THE TITLE, THE MERCHANDISE, THE DEED OR WHATEVER.

IT'S THE SAME THING.

IF I WAS THE SELLER AND HE SAID I WANT A AGREEMENT THAT AT SOME POINT SOME TIME I GET A BUY IT.

I WON'T SAY MY LANGUAGE HERE, BUT IT WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE YOU'RE OUTTA YOUR MIND WHEN YOU HAVE THE MONEY IN YOUR HAND.

YOU COME AND TALK TO ME AND IF I STILL OWN THE LAND, WE CAN TALK AT THAT POINT.

GARY LAVY UP THERE 80 SOME YEARS OLD AND HE'S CLINGING TO THIS THING FOR EVERYTHING.

YS MADE BURT GUSMAN HAPPY, OR OR SOMEBODY DID.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS YOU THAT THE DEVELOPER OR WHOEVER PURCHASED THAT LAND JUST RECENTLY HAD TRANSFERRED.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE, BART DIED LAST WEEK.

UH, HIS FUNERAL IS FRIDAY.

HIS VIEWING IS THURSDAY NIGHT.

IT DIDN'T DO HIM A WHOLE LOT OF GOOD, UH, BUT I GUESS IT DID HIS SISTERS.

BUT YOU ARE KILLING US WITH THIS.

WE GOT TO HAVE, AND I'VE SAID THIS TO OUR RESIDENTS, I'VE SAID THAT STANDING IN THIS EXACT SPOT, WE GOTTA HAVE A LINE IN THE SAND THAT YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE US ALONE.

WE'D LIKE TO HAVE IT BACK A LITTLE WAYS, BUT IT, WE HAVE TO HAVE A LINE IN THE SAND AND A REAL SHORT MORATORIUM DOES NO GOOD BECAUSE IT TOOK YOU 20 YEARS TO BUILD OUT YOUR LAST DEVELOPMENT, WHICH REALLY ISN'T BUILT OUT.

RYAN HOLMES AND DIFFERENT ONES, STILL'S GOT A HUNDRED HOMES OR MORE IN THERE TO BUILD.

THEY'RE STILL WORKING EVERY DAY.

SO, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? A A FEW YEAR MORATORIUM IS NOTHING BECAUSE IT'S GONNA TAKE YOU A WHILE.

BUT WE GOTTA HAVE SOME RELIEF.

ED CITIZENS' COMMENTS? CORRECT.

UH, THIS IS COUNCIL COMMENTS OR COUNCIL COMMENTS? I'M SORRY.