Apr 24, 2023 City Council Meeting

SO THOSE MINUTES WILL BE APPROVED.

NEXT IS I NUMBER SEVEN, SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS EVENING.

UH, MR. ROGERS THERE ANY, THERE ARE NONE THIS EVENING HERE.

WE HAVE TWO THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AND NUMBER EIGHT IS CITIZENS COMMENTS.

[8. Citizens Comments]

UH, FIRST, UH, MR. KEVIN CARTER.

KEVIN CARTER, WARD ONE.

I WANT TO FIRST, UH, APOLOGIZE.

I CAN ONLY STAY HERE FOR MY COMMENTS.

SO I'VE GOT SOME WORK THAT I'M DOING AT HOME.

SO AFTER I'M DONE TALKING, I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO STAY AND, AND LISTEN TO THE REST OF THE MEETING, ALTHOUGH I WILL WATCH.

FIRST QUESTION, UH, FIRST ITEM THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS, AM I ALLOWED TO ASK ALL OF YOU A QUESTION AND HAVE ALL OF YOU ANSWER FOR ME? IS THAT PERMITTED? UM, NOT REALLY.

SO MOST QUESTIONS TO COUNSEL, YOU CAN DIRECT TO ME, AND THEN IF THEY, UH, CAN YOU ANSWER, UH, IF IT'S DIRECTED TO ME, OKAY.

I WILL TRY TO ANSWER THE BEST I CAN, AND THEN IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO, TO CHIME IN, THEY, THEY CERTAINLY ARE WELCOME AS WELL.

THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS ON EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD, OUR ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

, EXACTLY.

HOW MANY APARTMENTS ARE SLATED FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT? I THINK TOTAL BETWEEN, WELL, THE, WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED ALREADY IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 300.

AND THEN THERE'S ONE THAT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED YET, WOULD BE ROUGHLY ANOTHER 300.

SO SOMEWHERE AROUND 600 TOTAL, I BELIEVE.

THE REASON WHY I ASK IS TRACING ALL OF THIS BACK WHEN HORIZON LINE FIRST CAME IN AND THEY WERE PROMOTING THEIR 197 HOUSES, AND THAT GOT TURNED DOWN BECAUSE IT WAS AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, THEY CAME BACK WITH A AGREEMENT THAT ALL OF YOU APPROVED FOR 500 PLUS OR MINUS 532 APARTMENTS.

THEN WE HEAR 320 COMING IN FROM RHM REAL ESTATE AND THEN 300 FROM METROPOLITAN HOLDINGS.

IT WASN'T ONLY UNTIL YOUR WORK SESSION LAST WEEK THAT I HEARD HORIZON LINE IS INTERMINGLED WITH THOSE TWO.

SO WE'RE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THERE WAS POSSIBLY GOING TO BE 1,152 APARTMENTS.

BUT YET THEN THE QUESTION WOULD STILL THEN COME OUT IS IF HORIZON LINE WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSING FIVE TO 32, HOW DID THAT GET JUMPED UP TO 620 NOW, OR, YEAH, 620 OR 620 APARTMENTS.

SO THE NUMBER HAS INCREASED.

WELL, NO, THERE, THERE'S ONLY BEEN TWO PARCELS WE'VE EVER TALKED ABOUT.

AND ONE OF 'EM IS A PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED BY, UH, LOUK'S METROPOLITAN HOLDINGS, AND THAT IS ROUGHLY 300, 300 UNITS.

THE RHM PROJECT IS THE SAME PROJECT, THAT HORIZON LINE OR THE SAME PARCEL OF LAND, THE SAME PARCEL THAT, UM, UH, THAT RHM IS NOW LOOKING AT.

THAT'S THE PROJECT THAT IS ON THE TABLE THAT WE HAVE NOT APPROVED YET.

SO IT'S JUST THE 300 FROM ONE AND THE 300 FROM THE OTHER, BUT IT'S ONLY BEEN TWO PARCELS EVERY RIGHT.

THREE HUNDRED'S BEEN APPROVED BY AN ADDITIONAL THREE 20 IS PENDING, YES.

ALL RIGHT.

BECAUSE I, I SAW TRYING TO PIECE ALL THAT TOGETHER.

HORIZON LINE SAYS THEIR DEVELOPMENT'S AT THE CORNER OF EXECUTIVE AND BRANT, AND THEN YOU HEAR SPECIFIC ADDRESSES FOR THE OTHER TWO.

SO THAT MAKES ONE THINK THAT THERE'S THREE.

SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CLARITY AS TO WHAT WE COULD ACTUALLY EXPECT THERE NEXT TO THAT PARCEL FROM WHAT WAS UNDER THE HORIZON LINE.

THAT IS A, A LOT OF THAT IS A COMMERCIAL PIECE OR COMMERCIAL ELEMENT THAT WE'RE HOPING FOR THAT WOULD RUN EAST UP EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD ON THAT SAME SIDE ACROSS FROM THE ROADS.

PROJECT, I THINK THE REASON IT WAS VOTED DOWN WASN'T BECAUSE IT WAS AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT AND NO MULTI-FAMILY, OR NO RESIDENTIAL HOUSING SHOULD BE THERE.

THAT'S, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CLARITY.

CAUSE I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE ALSO BEEN ASKING, ASKING ME, AND I'VE BEEN OUT ON THE PAGES POSTING, SAYING, THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

SO YOU, YOU MENTIONED ONE THING, SO I JUST WANNA OFFER A QUICK CORRECTION.

SO THE, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE EVER TALKED PUBLICLY WHY I THINK EVERYBODY HAD THEIR REASONS FOR VOTING NO ON THAT ORIGINAL PROPOSAL.

BUT FROM WHAT I'VE GATHERED, IT WASN'T BECAUSE IT WAS AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

IT WAS THAT WHAT WAS PROPOSED SEEMED TO BE MORE FOR, UH, A 50 OR 55 AND OLDER CROWD.

SO WE HAD SOMEONE FROM, UH, HORIZON LINE AT THAT TIME ACTUALLY COME TO THE PODIUM AND SPOKE TO THAT, THAT THE, THE PROJECT THEY HAD PROPOSED, THEY'D HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS IN THE MORE SENIOR MARKET.

SO I THINK WHEN THEY PROPOSED THAT IT WAS ONLY 197 UNITS, BUT THEY WERE JUST ONE STORY, RIGHT? IT LOOKED MORE LIKE A TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL, MORE OF A SENIOR COMMUNITY.

THAT PROJECT SPECIFICALLY DOESN'T WORK OR FIT INTO WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING FOR AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT ACROSS THE STREET FROM A MUSIC CENTER THAT'S SEVEN MONTHS OUTTA THE YEAR, SIX MONTHS OUTTA THE YEAR, GONNA BE PROVIDING LOUD MUSIC.

SO, SO THAT PARTICULAR

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IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE TYPE, OKAY.

NOW THAT THEY'VE REPRESENTED A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MULTI-FAMILY THAT WOULD ATTRACT A YOUNGER CROWD, A MORE URBAN CROWD, SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO RESIDE IN THAT ATMOSPHERE OF AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF LIVING EXPERIENCE THAN SOMEONE WHO'S IN THEIR FIFTIES OR OR SIXTIES WHO'S DOWNSIZING, WHO'S LOOKING FOR MORE PEACE OF QUIET.

OKAY? THAT'S THE REASON THAT PROJECT, IN MY OPINION, AND IF ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO CHIME IN, PLEASE DO.

THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE THAT PROJECT WAS VOTED DOWN ZERO TO EIGHT, WHILE SOME PEOPLE WHO DID SUPPORT REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROJECT AND THE REZONING DIDN'T SUPPORT THE PRODUCT TYPE.

AND THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU HEARD IF YOU WATCHED THE WORK SESSION LAST TIME, WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, RIGHT? SO, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE STARTED TO WHERE WE ARE NOW.

BUT IT WASN'T BECAUSE IT WAS AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

IT WAS BECAUSE THE PRODUCT THAT WAS PRESENTED.

CERTAINLY 1800 CONSIDERATION.

HOPE, HOPE THAT CLEARS THAT UP.

IT DOES.

AND MAYBE SOMETHING FOR POSSIBLE FUTURE CONSIDERATION.

I KNOW SOME TALKS HAVE OCCURRED IN THE RECENT PAST OF MAYBE HAVING PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO COME AND SPEAK AT THE COUNCIL WORK SESSIONS FOR STUFF LIKE THIS.

I THINK IF THAT WAS ALLOWED, WE MIGHT HAVE A LOT MORE CLARITY NOW AS YOU'RE STARTING TO GET INTO THE FORMAL VOTING, AND IT TAKES AWAY A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT IT HA IT ALSO STILL PROVIDES CLARITY FOR EVERYBODY.

SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL COULD POSSIBLY CONSIDER, MAYBE OPENING UP SOME WORK SESSIONS WHEN DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS COME INTO PLAY, LET THE PEOPLE COME IN AND VOICE AT THAT TIME, THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

PUT THAT STUDY TOGETHER, THAT THE, UM, THE LEVEL OF GROWTH WAS NOT GONNA ADD ANY ADDITIONAL STRAIN IN THE PRESSURIZED SYSTEM.

THE OTHER ITEM I WANTED TO SPEAK TO IS THE CAMPGROUND.

I THINK THE CAMPGROUND, EVEN THOUGH IT'S UP FOR A DISCUSSION TONIGHT, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

IT LOOKS NICE.

I LOVE CAMPING.

MY ONLY PROBLEM WITH IT IS LOCATION, THE TRAFFIC ON OLD TROY PIKE RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN IF WE ADD IN WHAT THESE 620 APARTMENTS ARE GOING TO BRING, IF ANYONE HAS NEVER BEEN OUT TO THE OUTER BANKS ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY TO CHECK IN WHERE IT TAKES YOU A COUPLE OF HOURS TO DRIVE JUST TWO OR THREE MILES WHEN WE START TALKING, WHAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION ON THIS IS THAT WHEN I FIRST HEARD THAT THIS CAMPGROUND WAS PROPOSED, THEY WERE TALKING 125 SLOTS FOR TRAILERS, ROUGHLY 10, 15 CABINS, SOME, UH, TENT CAMPING SPOTS WHEN HE SPOKE TO IT IN YOUR WORK SESSION.

NOW IT'S 250 TRAILER SLOTS PLUS THE TENT PARKING PLUS NOW IT'S 30, MAYBE MORE CABINS.

THEY'RE GONNA WAIT AND SEE WHAT FITS, AND THEN MAYBE EVEN BUILD MORE.

I CAN'T IMAGINE WITH ALL THESE TRAVELERS COMING IN ON 70 ON THE OFF RAMPS, TURNING ONTO OLD TROY PIKE TO TRY AND GET TO THAT FACILITY OF WHAT THE TRAFFIC'S GOING TO BE LIKE.

IT'S GONNA BE LIKE TRYING TO GET OUT TO YOUR RENTAL SPOT ON THE OUTER BANKS.

I WISH EVERYONE REALLY GIVE THAT DEEP THOUGHT.

I THINK OUR TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WE'RE HAVING COMPLETED ON OLD TROY PIKE RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO GET THAT FINISHED AND VENTED AND DISCUSSED BEFORE WE LOOK AT ADDING MU EVEN MORE.

AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT THE VARIOUS DEVELOPMENTS ARE PUTTING OUT.

THEY'RE OLD TRAFFIC STUDIES WITH MASSAGE NUMBERS TO MAKE THEM LOOK ACCEPTABLE.

THAT COMPARED TO REALITY ARE TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS GIVE CONSIDERATION TO THAT.

THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO QUICKLY DISCUSS WAS WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

I WAS QUITE SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT THE PERK TEST OR SOIL SAMPLES HADN'T APPARENTLY BEEN COMPLETED YET.

IN ADDITION, WE STILL AREN'T SEEING CLARITY.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD TO, UM, THE CITY ENGINEER WAS THE SERVICE LINES.

WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE SERVICE LINES? ARE YOU GUYS REPLACING THEM? WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? ONE MINUTE? I HEAR, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA REPLACE EACH ONE OF 'EM ANOTHER TIME.

I HEAR, WE'LL REPLACE AS NEEDED.

BUT YET HERE RECENTLY, WE'VE HAD THREE SERVICE LINES BROKEN, TWO BY CONTRACTORS INSTALLING NEW PIPES.

THAT MAKES ONE QUESTION, WHAT ARE THESE ENGINEERING STUDIES THAT WE'RE HAVING COMPLETED? ARE THEY SHOWING WHERE ALL THESE CONNECTIONS ARE AT TO PREVENT THESE KIND OF PROBLEMS? WE ALSO STILL CAN'T FOR FORGO THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH THE BRAKES.

I HEAR CONCERNS ABOUT FLYING ACE ON HOW MUCH WATER THEY USE.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE HIGH CONSUMPTION OF WATER, BUT YET FROM MY RESEARCH ON FLYING ACE, THEY'VE RECYCLED MORE WATER.

SO ARE THEY USING MORE WATER THAN WHAT 620 APARTMENTS ARE GONNA BE BRINGING OUT? I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN CONSIDERATION.

THAT, AND THAT WAS ADDRESSED BY THE ACTUAL ENGINEERING FIRM WHO

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I MEAN, THAT WAS, UH, OKAY, THAT'S BASED OFF HIS STUDY.

BUT THEN AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE BACK TO WHERE I WANT YOU TO MAKE COMMENTS, BUT, UM, WE'RE UNDER THE TIME.

RIGHT? AND YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN YOU BRING UP SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I, I MEAN, I DO FEEL IT'S, I NEED TO RESPOND BECAUSE THAT IS INFORMATION THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN VETTED, THAT THE ENGINEER WHO PUT TOGETHER THAT STUDY TALKED ABOUT GROWTH AND HAS SAID PUBLICLY ON THE RECORD THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD STRESS THE SYSTEM.

WELL, AND THAT WAS HIS VIEWPOINT.

BUT MODELS CAN BE MISLEAD.

THE GUY, HE IS THE GUY THAT WE HIRED AND PAID THE MONEY TO DO.

I UNDERSTAND, BUT MODELS CAN BE MIS MISLEADING.

AND THEN ALSO ONE CAN STILL QUESTION LIKE THE ANNEXATION, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING 700, 800 PLUS HOMES THERE, PLUS THESE APARTMENTS WITH ALL OF THAT THROWN INTO THE MIX, BECAUSE ALL OF THAT CREATES GREATER FLOW, PRESSURE SWINGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CAN STILL BE IMPACTED.

BRIAN, REAL QUICK ON THE, ON THE ANNEXATION, WE WEREN'T GOING TO, THAT WAS GOING TO REMAIN THEIR WATER AND SEWER, CORRECT? CORRECT.

THE, THE MPAS, THE, UM, MUNICIPAL PLANNING AREAS, UH, WOULD PREVAIL IN THIS SITUATION.

SO BASED ON THE EXISTING MPAS, THE CITY WOULD ONLY PICK UP APPROXIMATELY 20 TO 25 HOUSING UNITS FOR SERVICE.

THE REMAINDER WOULD ALL BE REQUIRED TO CONNECT TO, UH, WHAT IS THE MIAMI COUNTY MPA.

SO, SO THE ANNEXATION ONLY ABOUT 25 HOUSES WOULD BE ATTACHED TO OUR, TO OUR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, BACK TO THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

IF WE COULD PUSH FOR THE CLARITY.

I KNOW SOME RESIDENTS WHO I'VE TALKED WITH, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHEN THEY'RE ON FOR THE SCHEDULE FOR REPLACEMENT, WHAT TO EXPECT ON THE SERVICE LINE, THEY'VE HEARD OF THE SERVICE LINE DAMAGES.

CAN WE GET THAT CLARITY OUT SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON? SO I THINK IT'S, I MORE INFORMATION IS MUCH BETTER IN THIS CASE.

WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET BRIAN'S STAFF TO, TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER.

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S IT.

THANKS KEVIN.

APPRECIATE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE, BUT I'M GONNA GO HOME AND GET THE STINK OUT HERE.

TAKE CARE.

HAPPY.

NEXT UP, WE HAVE, UH, MR. JEFF MORFORD.

THESE NUMBERS ARE OVERWHELMING.

JEFF MORFORD, MIAMI COUNTY BETHEL TOWNSHIP, UH, INITIATIVE PETITION, THE ABILITY OF A COMMUNITY TO BRING A GENERAL ELECTION VOTE.

AN ACTION THE COMMUNITY WANTS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS NOT INTERESTED IN, OR HAS OVERLOOKED REFERENDUM, THE ABILITY OF A COMMUNITY TO BRING TO A GENERAL ELECTION VOTE.

A RECENT ACTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT THINK THE CITY COUNCIL VOTERS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS IN GENERAL, DISAGREES WITH THE ACTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE REFERENDUM PROCESSES START OF THE DAY AFTER THE COUNCIL VOTES ON AN ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION, FILING A CERTIFIED COPY WITH CONTESTED ORDINANCE, CIRCULATING THE REFERENDUM PETITION THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, COLLECTING SIGNATURES OF VOTERS WHO DISAGREE WITH A CITY COUNCIL VOTE.

AFTER COLLECTING THE CORRECT NUMBER OF SIGNATURES, WHICH WILL BE CERTIFIED BY THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS, THE ISSUE WILL BE PUT ON THE BALLOT FOR THE ENTIRE HUBER HEIGHTS VOTING POPULATION TO VOTE YES OR NO.

IF THE PETITION IS SUCCESSFUL AND AN ELECTION DATE IS IN PLACE, THE ACTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE SUBJECT WILL BE PUT ON HOLD UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION.

AFTER THE ELECTION, DEPENDING ON THE GENERAL ELECTION VOTE, THE PROJECT ORDINANCE RESOLUTION WILL GO FORWARD OR BE REVERSED.

LAST FALL, NEW CARLISLE CLARK COUNTY HAD A REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION OF APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED ACRES OF AGRICULTURAL LAND IN BETHEL TOWNSHIP, MIAMI COUNTY, AND A DEVELOPER'S PLAN TO BUILD 300 HOUSES.

I BELIEVE NEW CARLISLE LOOKED AT ALL THE FACTORS, POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE.

THE ADDITION OF 300 HOUSES WOULD EQUAL INCOME TAX REVENUES, THE RESIDENTS OF THE HOMES, DEPENDING SPENDING MONEY AT LOCAL BUSINESSES, EXPANSION OF GROWTH.

BUT I BELIEVE THE NEW CARLISLE CITY COUNCIL DECIDED TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE NEGATIVE EFFECT ON BETHEL TOWNSHIP'S, CITIZENS LIFESTYLE, THE TRAFFIC, AND LARGELY THE EFFECT ON THE BETHEL SCHOOLS.

I BELIEVE THE NEW CARLISLE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERED THE BORDERLINE OF SIGNIFICANT IMPORTANCE, REALIZING ANY GROWTH OR EXPANSION OF NEW CARLISLE SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLY OF NEW CARLISLE PROPER AND NOT PUSHED ONTO THE CITIZENS

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OF BETHEL TOWNSHIP.

THE NEW CARLISLE CITY COUNCIL HAS SEVEN MEMBERS.

WHEN IT CAME TIME TO VOTE ON THE ANNEXATION, ONE MEMBER WAS ABSENT FOR MEDICAL REASONS.

ONE MEMBER VOTED FOR THE ANNEXATION, AND FIVE MEMBERS VOTED NO.

NOW, HUBER HEIGHTS WILL CONSIDER THE ANNEXATION OF 265 ACRES LOCATED IN MIAMI COUNTY, BETH TOWNSHIP, AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF UP TO A THOUSAND HOUSES.

I AM SURE YOUR REVIEW OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMES WITH SOME MATHEMATICAL FORMULA THAT CALCULATES THE POTENTIAL TAX REVENUE OVER THE NEXT 50 YEARS.

IF THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS WITHIN YOUR CITY BOUNDARIES, THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR CITIZENS.

BUT WHEN YOU CAN ACCEPT A HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS IN BETHEL TOWNSHIP, REAP WHAT YOU CONSIDER REWARDS AND PLACE A BURDEN ON BETHEL ROADS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, PUTTING THE STUDENT BURDEN ON BETHEL SCHOOLS.

AGAIN, HOW WOULD YOU COMMUNITY, LIKE IF 1000 NEW STUDENTS SHOWED UP AT YOUR DOORS, YOUR COMMUNITY HAS A POPULATION OF OVER 40,000 AND A NUMBER OF SCHOOLS THAT COULD ABSORB THIS INFLUX.

WE AND BETHEL TOWNSHIP HAVE ONE SCHOOL AND A POPULATION OF 5,000.

IT IS OBVIOUS THE MIAMI COUNTY COMMISSIONERS REPRESENT 110,000 RESIDENTS ARE AGAINST THIS ANNEXATION.

THE BETHEL TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES WHO REPRESENT 5,000 RESIDENTS ARE ADAMANTLY AGAINST THIS ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT.

BETHEL TOWNSHIP HAS EVEN GONE AS FAR AS SPENDING A MILLION TAX DOLLARS, ALONG WITH MATCHING STATE FUNDS TO PURCHASE PROPERTY NEAR 2 0 1 AND SINGER ROADS AS A MEANS TO BLOCK ANNEXATION AND DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE, HOW STRONGLY WE OPPOSE THESE HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS.

YOU ARE UNDER NO LEGAL OBLIGATION TO VOTE FOR THIS ANNEXATION.

PLEASE BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND VOTE NO.

AS ALWAYS, I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH A GOLDEN RULE DUE UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DUE UNTO YOU.

OKAY, NEXT UP.

IS IT NUMBER NINE, CITIZENS THAT ARE REGISTER TO SPEAK ON SPECIFICALLY AGENDA ITEMS? I HAVE MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP, IS IT NUMBER 10, WHICH IS

[10. City Manager Report]

OUR CITY MANAGER REPORT.

BRIAN, THANK YOU, SIR.

A COUPLE OF ITEMS FOR COUNSEL IN THE COMMUNITY THIS EVENING.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, THE UH, TAX OFFICE WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND THEIR THANKS TO THE COMMUNITY.

UH, THE UTILIZATION OF THE SCHEDULED APPOINTMENTS, UH, AND THE, UH, INCREASE IN ELECTRIC FI IN ELECTRONIC FILINGS THIS YEAR, UH, MADE THE STAFF'S JOBS MUCH EASIER.

UH, AND, UH, THE, UH, THE PUBLIC'S EFFORTS IN, UH, IN ACCOMMODATING THOSE MATTERS ARE APPRECIATED.

UH, ALSO WANNA BRING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION AND THE COMMUNITY'S ATTENTION TODAY, STAFF MADE A PRESENTATION, UH, AT, UH, MIAMI COUNTY FOR THE EDGE PROGRAM, UH, REGARDING THE EXPANSION OF PBS PLASTICS ON EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD.

THIS GRANT IS PART OF A AGENDA MATTER.

UH, IN TONIGHT'S MEETING, UH, REFERENCE COMMENTS MADE EARLIER DURING, UH, THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING, UH, THE REQUESTED SOIL BORINGS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

AND A FINAL REPORT IS BEING DRAFTED BY, UH, BOWSER MOURNER, AND WE WOULD EXPECT THAT TO BE IN LATER THIS WEEK, UH, IF NOT FIRST PART OF NEXT WEEK.

AND THEN, UH, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, UH, THE, UH, GREEN FOOTPRINT CONTINUES TO GROW HERE IN HUBER HEIGHTS.

TESLA HAS EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN PROVIDING FOR AN ADDITIONAL QUICK CHARGING STATION OVER AT THE MEYER PROPERTY, UH, AND WE ARE WORKING WITH INTERESTED PARTIES, UH, TO ADVANCE THAT INTEREST.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, COUNSEL ON MAY.

I HAVE.

THANKS, BRIAN.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN REGARDING HIS UPDATE? OKAY.

HEY, BRIAN, TWO QUESTIONS.

WHERE ARE WE AT IN THE CHARGING STATION? I THINK WHAT WAS GOING TO WAS SOUTH OF TOWN OF CLOUD AND THE OTHER ONE WAS GONNA GO WITH ROSE.

IS ARE, ARE WE STILL DOING THOSE? UH, THOSE CHARGING STATIONS SHOULD BE IN AN OPERATIONAL, UH, BUT IF THEY ARE NOT, UH, WE WILL SEE THAT THEY ARE, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT THOSE ARE OPERATIONAL.

ANYONE ELSE? DON? THANK YOU.

UH, BRIAN, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, NEED THE SERVICES OF THE TAX OFFICE ON THE DAY OF, UM, COULDN'T FIND MY PROPER ACCOUNT NUMBER.

I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT, UH, I WAS ABLE TO CALL, GET A LIVE PERSON WHO WAS POLITE AND EFFICIENT, TOOK CARE OF MY NEEDS, AND ONLINE FILING WAS A SNAP.

I'D JUST LIKE YOU TO, UM, FORWARD ALONG MY COMPLIMENTS TO THE TAX DEPARTMENT.

WE'LL PASS THOSE, WE'LL PASS THOSE COMMENTS ON TOMORROW, THAT STAFF.

ANYONE ELSE? YES, ANITA, THIS IS A LITTLE OFF TOPIC.

DO WE KNOW WHERE THE, UM, HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE DOOR STANDS FOR THE WATER COMPANY? UH, THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH RESPECT TO, UM, VIOLA AND

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THE LANDLORD.

SO WE'RE, UH, STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT.

THAT HASN'T FALLEN OFF OUR RADAR, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE CONTINUING TO, TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT A BEST WAY TO ACCOMMODATE THAT NEED.

ITEM 11 PENDING BUSINESS.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11.

[ An Ordinance To Approve A Rezoning From Planned Employment Park (PEP) To Planned Commercial (PC) And A Basic Development Plan For The Property Located At 8245 Brandt Pike And Further Identified As Parcel Numbers P70 03910 0005 And P70 03910 0012 On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Map And To Accept The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Case RZ BDP 23-04). (second reading)]

SORRY.

NO, YOU'RE GOOD.

ITEM 11 A, AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE REZONING FROM PLAN EMPLOYMENT PARK, P E P TO PLANNED COMMERCIAL PC, AND A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 82 45.

GRANT PIKE, FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL NUMBERS P 7 0 0 3 9 1 0 0 0 0 5, AND P 7 0 0 3 9 1 0 0 0 1 2 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP.

AND TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN CASE RZ B DP 23 DASH ZERO FOUR AT THE SECOND READING.

BRENT COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, THIS PARTICULAR MATTER IS TO ADVANCE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE, UH, SHEETS, UH, CONVENIENCE FACILITY AT THE INTERSECTION OF BRANT AND EXECUTIVE.

UH, IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS ITEM BE ADOPTED THIS EVENING.

THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORK SESSION.

IS THERE A MOTION, KATE, MOVE TWO.

DO.

IS THERE A SECOND? DON? I WILL SECOND HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, MR. CAMPBELL? YES.

MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.

NEXT UP IS ITEM

[ An Ordinance To Approve A Rezoning To Planned Industrial (PI) And Basic Development Plan For The Property Located At The Southeast Corner Of Technology Boulevard And Artz Road And Further Identified As Parcel Number P70 03903 0007 On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Map And Accepting The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Case RZ BDP 22-35). (second reading)]

NUMBER 11 B.

ITEM 11 B IN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE REZONING TO PLANNED INDUSTRIAL PI AND BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE, THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF TECHNOLOGY BOULEVARD AND ARTS ROAD, FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL NUMBER P 7 0 0 3 903 0 0 7 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP AND ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN CASE RZ B DP 22 DASH 35 AT THE SECOND READING.

UH, BRIAN COMMENTS? UH, YES, MR. MAYOR, UH, THIS PARTICULAR MATTER, UH, IS IN REGARD TO, UH, THE, UH, CREATION AND CONSTRUCTION OF A, UH, SEMI-TRUCK PARKING FACILITY AND, UH, SUBSEQUENT SUPPORTING, UH, FACILITY AT THAT LOCATION FOR TRUCK MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR.

UH, THERE WAS NO RECOMMENDATION ASSOCIATED, ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ITEM OUTTA THE WORK SESSION.

SO WITH NO RECOMMENDATION, UH, WE WOULD MOVE THIS ITEM ON TO, UH, ANOTHER, UH, A SECOND READING, UNLESS THERE IS ANY OBJECTION.

YES, GLENN? MY THIRD READING, OH, YES, THERE'LL BE A THIRD READING AT THIS POINT.

MY APOLOGIES.

PERMIT NUMBER 6 5 2 159 0 609 5.

SO WE'LL MOVE THIS ON TO A THIRD READING.

NEXT UP IS UNDER NEW BUSINESS, WE HAVE ITEM

[ A Motion To Direct The Clerk Of Council To Respond To The Ohio Division Of Liquor Control With No Objections In Reference To New Liquor Permit #65215090695 For Sheetz At 7550 Old Troy Pike, Huber Heights, Ohio, 45424.]

NUMBER 12.

ITEM 12 A.

A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CLERK OF COUNSEL TO RESPOND TO THE OHIO DIVISION OF LIQUOR CONTROL WITH NO OBJECTIONS IN REFERENCE TO NEW LIQUOR.

FOR SHEETS.

IT'S 7 5 50 OLD TROY PIKE, HUB HEIGHTS, OHIO, 45,424.

TONY COMMENTS, UH, THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION AT THIS, UH, ABOUT THIS ITEM AT THE WORK SESSION.

I DID FURTHER CLARIFY SINCE THE WORK SESSION, UM, THE NATURE OF A D ONE PERMIT, CUZ THAT SEEMED TO BE THE AREA OF CONCERN.

UM, A D ONE PERMIT IS FOR, UH, IT ALLOWS FOR CONS, UH, ON PREMISES CONSUMPTION OF BEER ONLY IN, UM, ORIGINAL SEALED CONTAINERS.

OR THE SAME FOR CARRY OUT UNTIL 1:00 AM.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WITH A D ONE PERMIT, BUT MIXED LINE AND MIXED BEVERAGES WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED, UH, FOR ON, ON PREMISES CONSUMPTION, JUST BUREAU.

SO I THINK THROUGH LACK OF OBJECTION, THE WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT THAT ITEM THIS EVENING.

IS THERE A MOTION FOR, OKAY, SO NO MOTION TO APPROVE.

SO I GUESS IS THAT WHAT HAPPENS IS, UH, IF WE DON'T RESPOND, THEY'RE GONNA PROVE IT.

SO, OKAY.

SO WE'LL JUST MOVE FORWARD IN THE PROCESS WITHOUT US OBJECTING OR WITHOUT ANY FORMAL APPROVAL.

CORRECT.

EVERYONE OKAY WITH THAT? WE JUST NOT GIVE A RESPONSE.

UH, OFFICIALLY, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I, I DO NOT, UM, A AGREE WITH THIS BEING ISSUED WITH THE D ONE INDICATOR ON IT.

NOPE.

ANY IT QUESTIONS? IS THIS TYPICAL FOR SHEETS THAT YOU CAN DRINK BEER IN THE FACILITY? I MEAN, IS THIS A STANDARD THING THAT SHEETS DOES? I I, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH SHEETS SPECIFICALLY, BUT FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD, THEIR CONCEPT IS MORE OF SHEETS AS A RESTAURANT WITH FUEL PUMPS VERSUS A GAS STATION WITH FOOD.

BRIAN, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

I'M NOT, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL, GLENN.

I KNOW WE CAN'T REALLY, IT APPEARS VOICE MUCH, UH, DISSATISFACTION,

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I, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY REASON FOR YOU TO DRINK BEER IN THE ESTABLISHMENT.

IT JUST, I DON'T, I DON'T GET, NO.

SO I STAND AN OBJECTION TO THEM BEING ISSUED A LICENSE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE WOULD OBJECT.

UH, WELL, I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY ALL OF, UH, LOOK, I MEAN, I THINK ALL OF US UNDERSTAND THAT NOBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO JUST WALK INTO A GAS STATION, DRINK A COUPLE BEERS AND GO BACK, GET IN YOUR CAR AND LEAVE.

I MEAN, THAT, THAT, I HAVE A HARD TIME MAKING THAT MAKE SENSE IN MY MIND AS WELL.

, UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH SEVERAL OTHER GAS STATIONS.

UM, WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE ONE OF THE GAS STATIONS.

WE HAVE AGREED TO GIVE UP THAT PARTICULAR LICENSE.

UM, BUT I DON'T, BUT I, I GUESS THE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN STOP IT.

SO, RICHARD, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, I HAVE WEIGHED THIS ITEM VERY HEAVILY SINCE OUR, UH, LAST WORK SESSION THREE DAYS AGO.

, UM, I THINK WE ALL KNOW HOW HARD THIS COUNCIL WORKED, UH, WITH THE OTHER, UH, GAS STATION ON TROY.

UM, I THINK WE ALL KNOW HOW MUCH WE WORKED WITH THE OTHER LOCATION ON BRANT PIKE, UH, THAT, UH, WE WERE PRETTY MUCH TOLD, UH, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

THEY PULLED A FAST ONE ON THIS CITY.

UM, I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT, UM, WE, WE REALLY NEED TO, UM, MAKE A FORMAL, FORMAL OBJECTION.

WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS GROWTH COMING UP, AND IF WE START SETTING PRECEDENT THAT WE ALLOW LIQUOR PERMITS WHERE YOU CAN DO ONSITE LIQUOR CONSUMPTION AT A GAS STATION, THIS CLOSE TO THE ENTRANCE OF OUR COMMUNITY, UM, OR ANYWHERE IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR THAT MATTER.

UM, I, I THINK, UM, PAINTS A DIFFERENT LIGHT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SET AS A VISION OF OUR COMMUNITY MOVING FORWARD.

UM, THIS WAS THE SAME ARGUMENT THAT MANY OF THIS COUNCIL BROUGHT UP WHEN IT WAS THE MARATHON, WHICH IS WHAT TWO TRAFFIC LIGHTS AWAY FROM THIS LOCATION.

UH, IT'S THE SAME ARGUMENT, UM, WITH THE LOCATION THAT'S IN THE HEART OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT STILL ALLOWS US AS WE SPEAK.

UM, SO I, I THINK EITHER WE, WE STAY ON THE PAR OF WHERE WE WERE AT BEFORE OR WE CHANGE.

UM, I, I KNOW MAYOR, I DISCUSSED AT THE LA LAST WORK SESSION, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A COMPLETE ANALYSIS OF OUR CURRENT LIQUOR PERMITS AND WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.

UM, AND SO THAT WE AS A COUNCIL KNOW, UM, THAT EITHER WE NEED TO GET, UH, GENERAL ASSEMBLY INVOLVEMENT, WE NEED TO, UH, HAVE OUR STATE SENATOR AND, UH, STATE REPRESENTATIVE, UM, MAKE SOME MAJOR CHANGES IN COLUMBUS ON THIS.

UM, WE ALL KNOW, UH, FROM, FROM DEALING WITH THIS, THE, UH, LIQUOR CONTROL BOARD, UM, IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITHOUT EITHER A SHOOTING DRUG ACTIVITY OR SOME MAJOR ISSUES GOING ON AT THAT FACILITY.

SO THE ONLY OTHER WAY IS LEGISLATIVE ACTION.

UM, AND I THINK THAT LEGISLATIVE ACTION NEEDS TO START HERE AT THIS COMMUNITY MIRROR.

UM, I WILL NOTE, I DID CONTACT THE OHIO DIVISION OF LIQUOR CONTROL, MADE A REQUEST FOR A REPORT OF ALL THE LIQUOR PERMITS AND, AND, UH, HUBER HEIGHTS, AS WELL AS WHAT ARE QUOTA FOR THE VARIOUS TYPES OF PERMITS.

CUZ IT'S POPULATION BASED, UM, IN TERMS OF THE QUOTA.

SO, UH, I, THEY HAVE NOT RESPONDED TO ME WITH THAT INFORMATION, BUT I HAVEN'T MADE THE REQUEST.

TO THIS, MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS AND I'M, I'M THE COUNCIL.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

I AGREE WITH MR. COUNCILMAN OTTO AND COUNCILMAN.

SO CAN WE SAY NO TO THIS AND IT GOES UP WITH AN E OBJECT? WELL, I THINK WHAT HAPPENS, I THINK OUR HANDS ARE TIED, BUT THERE'S, IF THERE'S A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL WHO'D LIKE, I MEAN IF SO NOT IF, IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, IT FAILS.

BUT IF YOU WANT, AND THAT'S THE WAY THE LEGISLATION IS PRESENTED.

UH, SO BEYOND THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE FORMAL MOTION, UH, TO DIRECT TONY TO ACTUALLY FILE THE OBJECTION.

CORRECT, CORRECT.

WITH, WITH THE, WITH THE LIQUOR CONTROL AND THEN KIND OF SEE WHERE IT GOES THERE.

SO, UH, SOUNDS LIKE WHAT RICHARD AND GLENN PROPOSED IS THAT WE ACTUALLY FILE THAT ACTION FORMALLY MM-HMM.

UM, BUT SO WOULD WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS, SEE WHERE THAT GOES, AND THEN FILE THE ACTION? OR IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING AND THIS JUST GOES AWAY, THEN CAN WE? NO.

SO THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS YOU COULD DO.

YOU COULD PASS A MOTION, UH, DIRECTING ME TO OBJECT TO THAT.

WHAT AN OBJECTION MEANS IS WE'RE BASICALLY REQUESTING A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, TO, UH, MAKE THOSE OBJECTIONS KNOWN.

THEN OUR LAW DEPARTMENT WOULD NEED TO, UH, ATTEND THAT HEARING ON THE CITY'S BEHALF AND, AND MAKE OUR OBJECTIONS KNOWN THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

AND THEN THE HEARING OFFICER WOULD MAKE A RULING.

UH, YOU WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE OBJECTION, UM, TO THE LIQUOR PERMIT IN GENERAL.

OR YOU COULD ALSO, UH, MAKE THE FRAME THE MOTION THAT YOU'RE ONLY OBJECTING TO THE ISSUANCE OF THE D ONE PART OF THE LIQUOR PERMIT.

MAYOR? YES, I'M, I AM WITH COUNCILMAN OTTO AND SHAW, I'D LIKE TO OBJECT

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I, I WOULD TOTALLY LOVE BEVERAGES, ADULT BEVERAGES ALIKE, BUT I THINK GOING IN, LIKE THEY SAID, GOING IN AND PURCHASING, CONSUMING AND GETTING BACK IN YOUR VEHICLE AND GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE RIGHT AWAY WITHOUT HAVING THE MEAL OR THE SIT DOWN ATMOSPHERE, I THINK THAT'S NOT THE LOOK I WANT FOR MY CITY.

GLEN? I WOULD SAY IF I CAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, WELL REAL QUICK, DO WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THE ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA OR HE FAILED FOR LACK OF A MOTION.

LACK OF A MOTION.

SO, SO ITEM 12 A FAILS FORWARD DUE TO LACK OF A MOTION.

AND NOW GLENN IS REQUESTING, ARE WE OFF THE SUBJECT? WE CAN'T MAKE A MOTION? NO, NO, NO, NO.

YEAH, JUST THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.

THE PASSING OF THAT ONE FAILS WITHOUT A MOTION.

SO NOW YOU ARE MAKING A MOTION TO FILE THE FORMAL OBJECTION.

I MAKE A MOTION TO FILE AN OBJECTION AGAINST THE D ONE PORTION OF THE LIQUOR PERMIT FOR SHEETS AT 75 50 OLD TROY PIPE.

SO D ONE ONLY? YEAH.

AGAINST THE D ONE.

ANITA, I SECOND THAT MOTION.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, SO TONY, IS IT CLEAR WHAT THE, UH, THE MOTION IS ON THE D ONE? OKAY.

YES, ANITA.

I MEAN, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SHEETS? BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS AGAIN ON THE ONE WE JUST APPROVED.

SO I THINK A CONVERSATION WITH SHEET SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS REALLY ISN'T THE LOOK THAT WE WANT IN HUBER, CUZ WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS IN TWO, THREE MORE MONTHS.

JUST A FEW MONTHS.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

IS HAS THE LIQUOR PERMIT COME? I DON'T REMEMBER.

HAS THE LIQUOR PERMIT FROM ONE, BECAUSE YOU JUST APPROVED, THIS IS THE OLD TROY ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WAS, SO IT'S NOT THE ONE THE VOTED ON IN ITEM 11 A WAS THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND REZONING FOR THE ONE ON.

SO ONE MORE IS COMING.

YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S WORTH A CONVERSATION WITH SHEETS.

I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH, GOOD IDEA.

BRIAN, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN ACT UPON? AND WE'RE HAPPY TO FACILITATE THAT CONVERSATION AT THIS WITH IT.

I MEAN, IT'S CLEAR.

COUNSEL'S ONLY CONCERN IS THE D ONE.

AND WE'LL, WE'LL REACH OUT TO OUR CONTACTS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU BRIAN.

YES, CLINT AND TONY, IF WE WERE, IF THEY WERE TO CAPITULATE ON OUR REQUEST, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO JUST WITHDRAW THIS, THIS COMPLAINT? SURE.

THEY COULD CONTACT THE IOWA DIVISION OF LAKER CONTROL AND ASK FOR A MODIFICATION OF THEIR LIQUOR PERMIT APPLICATION.

EXCELLENT.

GOOD.

HOPEFULLY THAT'S, HOPEFULLY THAT'S WHERE WE GET ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

TONY, MRS. KITCHEN? YES.

THE MOTION DOES CARRY SIX TO ZERO TO FILE THE OBJECTION FOR THE D ONE LICENSE ON ME.

NEXT UP IS ITEM

[ A Public Hearing Scheduled For April 24, 2023 By The Huber Heights City Council For Case RZ 23-03. The Applicant Is Wright Way Ohio, LLC. The Applicant Is Requesting Approval Of A Rezoning From Planned Commercial (PC) To Agriculture (A) For Property Located Behind And North Of 8101 Old Troy Pike And Further Described As Parcel Number P70 02025 0012 On The Montgomery County Auditor's Map.]

12 B.

ITEM 12 B, A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 24TH, 2023 BY THE HUB RIDES CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE RZ 23 DASH ZERO THREE.

THE APPLICANT IS RIGHT WAY OHIO, LLC.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF REZONING FROM PLAIN COMMERCIAL PC TO AGRICULTURE, A FOR PROPERTY LOCATED BEHIND AND NORTH OF 81 0 1 OLD TROY PIKE, FURTHER DESCRIBED AS PARCEL NUMBER P 7 0 0 2 0 2 5 0 0 1 2 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP.

THANK YOU, TONY.

UM, AT ITS HIGHEST POINT ON THE EAST, UH, SLOPES DOWN TO THE WEST ABOUT 80 FEET.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 24TH, 2023 BY THE HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE RZ.

23 DASH OH THREE IS NOW OPEN.

AND NEXT WE WOULD MOVE AND CALL ON TO OUR CITY STAFF TO MAKE THEIR INITIAL PRESENTATION FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING PROCEDURE.

AARON? HI, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

UH, AARON C.

CITY OF HUMAN RIGHTS.

UH, SO THIS IS A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT REQUEST FROM PLANNED COMMERCIAL TO AGRICULTURE.

THE SITE IS 67.3 ACRES.

UH, IT IS FALLOW LAND AT THE MOMENT AND SURROUNDED BY, UH, PLANNED COMMERCIAL, PLANNED RESIDENTIAL.

I WANT AN AGRICULTURAL, UH, UH, ZONING, UH, AS WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REZONING TO AGRICULTURAL TO FACILITATE A CAMPGROUND AND PRIVATE RECREATIONAL USE.

UH, THAT IS A SPECIAL USE.

UH, AND SO THIS WILL BE HEARD IN FRONT OF PLANNING COMMISSION AT THAT TIME THAT THE APPLICANT DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD.

UH, THIS IS THE SITE.

UH, THERE, AS I MENTIONED, THERE IS AGRICULTURAL ZONING TO THE WEST, UH, AS WELL AS INDUSTRIAL ZONING, UH, PLANNED COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH AND EAST AND PLANNED RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH.

UH, THIS WAS THE INITIAL SITE PLAN, UM, THAT IS, THAT, UH, WAS PROPOSED.

UH, IT IS UNDER SOME REFINEMENT, UM, AS THE APPLICANT WORKS WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS.

SO ABOUT A THIRD OF THE SITE ARE, IS, UH, EITHER WETLANDS OR FLOOD PROTECTION.

THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT TOPOGRAPHY CHALLENGES WITH THIS SITE.

UH, THE TOTAL DEVELOPMENT LAND IS ABOUT 25 ACRES.

UH, WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS SHALLOW BEDROCK, WHICH FURTHER LIMITS THE DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS OF THIS SITE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE SHOPPING CENTER DIDN'T CONTINUE ITS, UH, WESTWARD EXPANSION.

UH, YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS TOPO MAP, UH, THE SITE,

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UH, THERE ARE TWO LARGE, UH, THERE'S A RETENTION POND TO THE NORTH, WHICH, UH, UH, ADDRESSES THE WATER FLOW FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH AS WELL AS WETLANDS ON THE SOUTHWEST, UH, SIDE OF THE, OF THIS SITE.

UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES, UH, LIST THE, THE FOLLOWING APPROPRIATE USES.

ONE IS, UH, CONSERVANCY OR RECREATION, AGRICULTURAL OR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AS WELL AS, UH, COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.

UM, STAFF BUILDS THE REZONING FROM PLANNED COMMERCIAL TO AGRICULTURE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THERE ARE AGRICULTURALLY ZONED LANDS TO THE WEST OF THIS SITE.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING A ZONING DISTRICT THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS INTENSE THAN IS, UH, THE CURRENT PLAN COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, WHICH IS ITS CURRENT ZONING.

UH, WE SEE LITTLE DOWNSIDE IN REZONING THIS LAND TO AGRICULTURE.

UH, DETAILS OF THE PROPOSED CAMPGROUND WILL BE REVIEWED, UH, AT SOME FUTURE POINT.

UM, WHEN HE, WHEN THEY SUBMIT THE SPECIAL USE APPLICATION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT BY A FIVE TO ZERO VOTE.

UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING MAP, UH, AMENDMENT AS WELL.

QUESTIONS OF ME? THANKS AARON.

UH, SO NEXT I WOULD, UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM W RIGHTWAY IS HERE THIS EVENING.

NO.

ALRIGHT.

SO I WON'T CALL ON HIM TO MAKE ANY KIND OF COMMENTS, BUT HE WAS HERE.

I WANNA MAKE SURE ONE KNOWS HE WAS HERE TO, UH, MAKE COMMENTS AT THE WORK SESSION THAT WE HAD.

UH, SO NEXT I WOULD CALL HIM THE LAW DIRECTOR TO MAKE ANY KIND KIND OF COMMENTS OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT HE MAY HAVE.

NO, NOT ADD, YOUR HONOR.

AND NEXT, WOULD, UH, WOULD CALL ANY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE, UM, NO, I ALWAYS SKIP THAT ONE CUZ THAT'S REDUNDANT.

UH, I WOULD ASK IF ANYONE'S PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPROVAL OF THE PARTICULAR ZONING ISSUE.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING ISSUE? OKAY, NEXT, I'D CALL MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

ANYONE IN COUNSEL HAVE ANYTHING? YES, KATE.

THANK YOU MAYOR AARON, I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT.

YOU CAN SIT THERE.

SO WOULD THERE BE SOMETHING IN THE CAMPGROUND RULES THAT THEY COULDN'T HAVE CAMPFIRES ON, LIKE THE OTHER DAY WAS REALLY WINDY AND THE WEATHER ADVISORY ADVISED NOT HAVING DO THE HIGH WIND, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE CAMPFIRES.

WOULD, COULD WE PUT SOMETHING IN THERE WITH THAT? WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE? YES.

I THINK WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT OF REVIEWING THE SPECIAL, UH, USE APPLICATION, THEN WE WOULD REALLY DIG INTO THE OPERATIONAL DETAILS, HOURS OF OPERATION, UM, CIRCULATION, AS WELL AS, UH, ADDRESSING OPEN BURNING THAT, UH, THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE RAISING.

I, I'M FINE WITH THEM HAVING CAMPFIRES.

RIGHT.

BUT IT WAS JUST ON THE WINDY DAYS WHEN THE WEATHER STATION'S TELLING YOU NOT TO HAVE THE CAMPFIRES AND HIGH WIND.

THAT WAS ONLY, ONLY CONCERN WHEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE WHEN WE HAVE THESE, UH, RED FLAG DAYS.

YES, SIR.

WE WOULD CERTAINLY MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S, UH, COVERED, FOLLOWED UP.

ONE LAST TIME I'D ASK IF ANYONE'S, UH, PRESENT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS ENDING CASE.

ITEM 12 C OF PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 24TH, 2023 BY THE HUBER HEIGHT CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE MJC 23 DASH ZERO SEVEN.

SO BARRING ANY FURTHER COMMENTS TO PUBLIC HEARING BY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE RZ 2,303 IS HEREBY CLOSED, WHICH LEADS US TO ITEM 12 C.

[ A Public Hearing Scheduled For April 24, 2023 By The Huber Heights City Council For Case MJC 23-07. The Applicant Is Flying Ace Car Wash. The Applicant Is Requesting Approval Of A Major Change To The Basic Development Plan For Property Located At 7730 Brandt Pike And Further Described As Parcel Number P70 02114 0003 On The Montgomery County Auditor's Map.]

THE APPLICANT IS FLYING ACE CARWASH.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A MAJOR CHANGE TO THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 77 30 BRANT PIKE.

FURTHER DESCRIBED AS PARCEL NUMBER P 70 0 2 1 14 0 0 3 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP AND THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 24TH, 2023 BY THE HUMAN RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE MJC 23 DASH OH SEVEN IS NOW OPEN.

AND FIRST I'LL CALL ON OUR CITY STAFF TO MAKE THEIR INITIAL PRESENTATION ONCE AGAIN, AARON.

UH, AND THE, UH, CAR WASH WOULD BE ORIENTED IN THE SAME, UH, MANNER THAT THE, THE BUILDING CURRENTLY IS.

UH, SO THIS IS A MAJOR CHANGE REQ MAJOR CHANGE REQUEST TO THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

UH, THE SITE IS, UH, ABOUT AN ACRE AND A HALF CURRENTLY ZONED PLANNED COMMERCIAL.

UH, IT IS A VACANT BANK BUILDING, UM, THAT HAS SURROUNDING ZONING OF PLANNED COMMERCIAL AS WELL AS, UH, B3 AND R FOUR TO THE WEST.

THE APPLICANT IS, UH, REQUESTING A MAJOR CHANGE, THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO CONSTRUCT A NEW CARWASH FACILITY.

UH, THIS IS THE SITE, UH, AT THE, UH, SULFUR GROVE SHOPPING CENTER.

THE, UH, THE WALMART IS TO THE EAST.

UH, THERE IS A BOB EVANS TO THE SOUTH, UH, AS WELL AS RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE, TO THE WEST.

UH, EFFECTIVELY THE, THE APPLICANT IS PLANNING TO RAISE THE BUILDING BUT CONTINUE TO USE THE, UH, THE EXISTING FOUNDATION.

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UH, SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.

THE TRANSPORTATION AND CIRCULATION REMAINS UNCHANGED.

UH, THERE ARE, THIS IS THE EXISTING ENTRANCES ONTO THE, ONTO THE SITE.

UH, THOSE REMAIN UNCHANGED.

UH, THERE IS ADDITIONAL, UH, PAVING MATERIAL THAT WOULD BE, UH, WOULD BE, UM, DEVELOPED TO, TO HELP FACILITATE, UM, ENTRANCE AND EXIT OF THE CAR WASH FACILITY AS WELL AS VACUUM STATIONS, UH, TO THE WEST.

UH, MOST, IF NOT ALL OF THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING WILL, WILL REMAIN, UH, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL AUGMENTED LANDSCAPING, UH, ALONG, UH, BRANT PIKE TO HELP, UH, BUFFER THE VACUUM, UH, STATIONS THAT ARE, UH, BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND, AND BRANT PIKE.

THERE'S A, THERE'S A ABOUT A EIGHT FOOT DROP BETWEEN, UH, RAMP PIKE, UH, AND THIS SITE.

UH, SO WE ACTUALLY DON'T FEEL THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF NOISE GENERATED, UH, THAT WOULD IMPACT THE, THE RESIDENTS.

THIS IS ALSO A CENTRALIZED VACUUM SYSTEM, SO IT'S NOT INDIVIDUAL, IT'S NOT 20 INDIVIDUAL VACUUMS. SO THIS IS, AS FAR AS CAR WASH, UH, NOISE GOES, THIS IS PRETTY, PRETTY LOW.

UH, THIS IS THE, THE ELEVATIONS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED, A MIXTURE OF, UM, UH, BRICK, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, UH, CORRUGATED, UH, STEEL PANELS.

UM, AS FAR AS THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN ANALYSIS.

SO THE PROPOSED CAR WASH IS SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE BANK BUILDING THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY, UH, PROPOSED OR PREVIOUSLY THERE.

UH, AND SO WE BELIEVE, AND THIS REQUIRES MAJOR CHANGE APPROVAL.

UM, SO IT IS A 4,500 SQUARE FOOT CAR WASH.

THAT'S A MIXTURE OF CULTURED BRICK AND METAL SIDING.

THE FACILITY MEETS ALL OF THE PARKING, SETBACK AND YARD REQUIREMENTS.

UH, AS I MENTIONED, THE LANDSCAPING WILL BE REUSED IN AUGMENTED, UH, AND THEN THE PLAN MONUMENT AND WALL SIGNS APPEAR TO, TO CURRENT TO MEET CODE.

MOST OF THE MONUMENT SIGN THAT THE EXISTING MONUMENT SIGN WILL BE REUSED.

THERE HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION REGARDING TRAFFIC AND ACCESSIBILITY.

UH, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION, UH, BETWEEN, UH, PLANNING AND ENGINEERING AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT.

THIS SITE CAN QUEUE 51 VEHICLES COMPARED TO 31 AT THE MERRILEE WAY SITE.

UH, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS GOING TO IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC ISSUES AT OLD TROY PIKE AND MERRILEE WAY.

UH, WE DO RECOMMEND THAT A GATE BE INSTALLED ALONG CEDAR HILL DRIVE TO CLEARLY BLOCK THE ENTRANCE ON THOSE FEW DAYS WHERE THE, THE SITE IS AT CAPACITY.

FIRE AND ENGINEERING HAVE BOTH APPROVED THIS SITE PLAN.

UH, WE ARE EXTREMELY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS MAJOR CHANGE.

UM, IT IS A PERMITTED USE IN THE PLAN COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND APPEARS TO MEET THE, UH, PRETTY HEAVILY RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT ARE OPPOSED ON THIS SITE BY, UH, BY WALMART.

UH, AS I MENTIONED, WE BELIEVE THAT, UH, STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT A SECOND FLYING ACE LOCATION WILL, UH, ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC HELP ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC CONDITION ISSUES THAT PLAGUE, OCCASIONALLY PLAGUE, UH, MERRILY WAY.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED FOUR TO ONE TO RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF THE MAJOR CHANGE TO THE, UH, BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE CONDITION THAT A GATE BE INSTALLED AT, AT THE CEDAR HILL DRIVE, UH, ENTRANCE STAFF RECOMMENDS, UH, APPROVAL OF THE MAJOR CHANGE TO THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THANKS, AARON.

IS ANYONE FROM FLYING EAST HERE THIS EVENING? YES.

WE JUST CALL ON YOU TO COME TO THE PODIUM, MAKE ANY KIND OF COMMENTS OR IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR ANYTHING, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY, PLEASE.

CERTAINLY, IF YOU CAN HAVE THAT TIME NOW.

HI.

THANKS.

I THINK THIS IS OUTSIDE OF, OF, OF THE CAR WASH, BUT THE DISCUSSION WE HAD REGARDING THAT INTERSECTION AND POSSIBLY SOME STRIPING COMING FROM STONE HURST.

UH, MY NAME'S JAKE MORRISON FROM VAN AD ENGINEERING.

I PRODUCED THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR THE FLYING HAYS PROPOSAL AT 77 30 GRANT PIKE.

UM, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD BEYOND WHAT AARON PRODUCED IN HIS PRESENTATION.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING PRETTY CLOSELY WITH AARON CITY ENGINEERING AND CITY FIRE FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW.

SEE, YOU PUT TOGETHER THIS PROPOSAL AND WE'VE BEEN DOING OUR BEST TO ADDRESS ALL THE COMMENTS THAT THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS HAVE, UH, PROVIDED US.

AND, UH, I DO KNOW THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DON'T SHOW ON OUR PLANS CURRENTLY IS DEDICATED CEDAR HILL, UH, WHICH WE ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE CITY FOR, AND WORK WITH CITY ENGINEERING CITY PLANNING TO SELECT A GATE THAT THEY'RE OKAY WITH.

UM, SO BEYOND THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD, BUT THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

GOOD, THANKS.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, STAY RIGHT THERE JUST UNTIL WE GET THROUGH A PORTION OF KIND OF SOME COUNSEL QUESTIONS, JUST IN CASE THEY HAVE ANY, SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BOUNCE BACK AND FORTH SO YOU, YEAH.

JUST HANG OUT THERE FOR A MINUTE FOR US.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

CALL THE LAW DIRECTOR AND MAKE ANY COMMENTS FOR PROVIDING DEALS, YOUR INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE.

NOTHING TO ADD.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO IS PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF OR APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE? OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS ISSUE? OKAY, SO NEXT I WOULD CALL MEMBERS OF THE RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE COMMENTS OR TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

UH, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF PART OF THE DISCUSSION, AND

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SO I, I KNOW THAT DOESN'T DEAL WITH THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT FOR THE RECORD, WE DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF HAVING ENGINEERING, EVERYBODY LOOK AT THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE TO TRY TO MAKE THAT INTERSECTION BETTER.

SO, UM, RUSS AND I DISCUSSED THAT TODAY.

UM, HE'S, WE ARE GONNA WORK WITH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS TO BASICALLY MOVE THE STRIPING.

WE THINK JUST REALIGNING THE STRIPING THAT IS THIS, THAT IS CURRENTLY THERE WILL HELP THE VISIBILITY CUZ WHEN CARS, UH, QUEUE, THEY'RE NOT LOOKING DIRECTLY ACROSS TO EACH OTHER THERE, THERE'S AN OFFSET.

SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, OF CHANGING THE ORIENTATION OF THE PAINT.

HOPE THAT GREAT DISCUSSION AT THE WORK SESSION.

HOPEFULLY THAT THAT HELPS THAT.

UH, ANYONE ELSE? ANY OTHER, SOMEONE COUNSEL, HAVE, UH, ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS OR OTHER INFORMATION? DON UH, JUST A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, MORE OF A STATEMENT.

CAN YOU, UH, UH, A RESIDENT HAD A QUESTION.

CAN YOU STATE THE HOURS OPERATION FOR FLOORING DAYS? I DO NOT KNOW THAT QUESTION.

I WOULD'VE TO ASK MY CLIENT THAT.

WAS THAT DISCUSSED DURING PLANNING? YOUR HONOR, IT WAS, UM, I BELIEVE AND, AND DON'T HOLD ME TO THIS, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS, UH, MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.

IT'S LIKE SEVEN 30 IN THE MORNING TO ABOUT 9:00 PM AND THEN ON SUNDAYS IT'S A LITTLE, IT STARTS A LITTLE BIT LATER AND CLOSES A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANKS HON.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, ONE LAST TIME.

I'D ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING CASE.

D, ITEM 12 D A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 24TH, 2023 BY THE HUB RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE RZ G D P 23 DASH ZERO EIGHT.

SO BARRING ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, THE PUBLIC HEARING BY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE MJC 23 DASH OH SEVEN IS HEREBY CLOSED.

AND THAT TAKES US NOW TO ITEM 12

[ A Public Hearing Scheduled For April 24, 2023 By The Huber Heights City Council For Case RZ BDP 23-08. The Applicant Is RHM Real Estate Group. The Applicant Is Requesting Approval Of A Rezoning From Planned Employment Park (PEP) To Planned Mixed Use (PM) For The Property Located At 7125 Executive Boulevard And Further Described As Parcel Numbers P70 03910 0080 And P70 03910 0081 And A Basic Development Plan For Parcel Number P70 01820 0003 And Lot #1 And Lot #4 Of The Pride One Subdivision On The Montgomery County Auditor's Map.]

THE APPLICANT IS R H M REAL ESTATE GROUP.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF REZONING FROM PLAN EMPLOYMENT PARK, P E P TO PLAN MIXED USE PM FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 71 25 EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD.

FURTHER DESCRIBED AS PARCEL NUMBERS P 7 0 0 3 9 1 0 0 0 8 0 AND P 7 0 0 3 9 1 0 0 0 8 1, AND A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PARCEL NUMBER P 7 0 0 1 8 2 0 0 0 3, AND LOT NUMBER ONE AND LOT NUMBER FOUR OF THE PRIDE ONE SUBDIVISION ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP.

THAT WAS, AND THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 24TH, 2023 BY THE RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE RZ BDP 23 DASH OH EIGHT IS NOW OPEN.

AND NEXT I WOULD CALL OUR CITY STAFF, AARON, TO MAKE THE INITIAL PRESENTATION ONCE AGAIN.

IS THIS, WHAT'S THIS? YEAH, THE BACK.

UH, SO, UM, THERE ARE TWO ACTIONS HERE.

ONE IS THE REZONING AND THEN THE SECOND IS THE, UH, BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SO THE ENTIRE, UH, REZONING AREA IS 43 ACRES.

IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED PLANNED EMPLOYMENT PARK.

UH, THE EXISTING LAND USE IS AGRICULTURE AND, AND, UH, THE PUBLIC USE OF THE, THE LAYMAN BARN THAT WE HAVE.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REZONING OF THE ENTIRE 43 ACRES TO PLAN MIXED USE AS WELL AS BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL OF 300 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND FOUR COMMERCIAL OUTLAWS ON ABOUT HALF OF THAT SITE, 22.3 ACRES, UH, IN THIS CASE.

THE B THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS REALLY FOCUSING ON JUST THE ZONING, THE ACCESS, AND THE DENSITY ENTITLEMENTS.

UH, THIS IS THE SITE, UH, AN OUTLINE IN THE BLUE IS THE, UH, REZONING PERIMETER.

UH, THIS IS AN OVERLAY OF THE, UH, BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON, UH, HALF OF THE SITE, THE 22, UH, 0.3 ACRES.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THE FOUR COMMERCIAL OUTLAWS TO, UH, THAT FRONT EXECUTIVE AS WELL AS THE PLANNED RESIDENTIAL, UH, TO THE REAR.

UM, JUST SORT OF SO SOME CONTEXT SINCE WE HAVE BEEN HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS, THIS IS HOW, UH, THIS INITIAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT, UH, FITS INTO THE CONTEXT WITH THE OTHER APPROVED OR, UM, IN PROCESS DEVELOPMENTS RIGHT NOW, THE NEWBAUER SITE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE ROSE, AS WELL AS, UH, THIS PROPOSAL, UH, THIS WAS THE INITIAL, UH, ELEVATIONS THAT WERE, UH, WERE, WERE SHOWN.

UH, THIS IS THE INITIAL ELEVATION, UM, CONCEPT OF THE, UH, UH, CLUBHOUSE AS WELL AS THEN THE INITIAL CONCEPTS OF THE COMMERCIAL, UH, FACADES, UH, ARTIST RENDERING THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.

SO AS FAR AS THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN HIGHLIGHTS, UM, RIGHT NOW, UH, IS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS A RESIDENTIAL OPEN SPACE OF 31.5%.

UM, THE CODE REQUIRES

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25%.

I THINK AS THIS, UH, PROJECT GETS FLESHED OUT, UH, THERE ARE, AND THROUGH THE DETAIL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, I BELIEVE THAT OPEN SPACE WILL PROBABLY GO UP SLIGHTLY.

UH, THE ENTRANCES ON EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD ALIGN WITH THE EXISTING ACCESS POINTS.

UM, WE DID EX, UH, REQUEST SOME PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, UH, AT LOBLAW DRIVE TO CONNECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST AND THE NORTH WITH THE COMMERCIAL, UH, PROPOSED COMMERCIAL SITES TO THE SOUTH SO THAT THERE IS A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION AND WE CAN REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF, UH, NEEDLESS, UH, VEHICULAR TRAVEL IF YOU COULD ONLY ONLY NEED TO WALK, UH, A QUARTER MILE.

UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A 10 FOOT WIDE MULTI-USE PATH ALONG EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD THAT'S CARRIED OVER FROM, UH, THE NEWBAUER, UH, PROPOSAL AS WELL.

UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS 531 RESIDENTIAL PARKING SPACES, WHICH IS 1.7 SPACES PER UNIT, WHICH IS MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE, UH, BEEN APPROVING, UH, FOR OTHER, UM, HIGHER DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS.

ONE THAT THE PERMITTED USES BE THOSE OUTLINED IN CHAPTER 1179, EXCLUDING ON THESE 22 ACRES, UH, FILLING STATIONS, SWEEPSTAKES, CAFES, CONVENIENCE STORES, SELF STORAGE FACILITIES, CAR WASHES OR OTHER, UH, USES THAT WE FEEL ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE COMMUNITY ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

SECONDLY, THAT THE APPLICANT WILL COMPLY WITH ALL FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS.

UH, AND THEN THREE, THAT THE EXISTING TREES AND NON, UH, INVASIVE VEGETATION THAT ABUT THE PROPERTIES ALONG SCATTER ROOT PLACE IN LALA DRIVE BE PRESERVED AND MAINTAINED IN A HEALTHY MANNER.

UH, AND THEN DEAD AND DI TREES ON THAT WEST PERIMETER BE REPLACED WITH SPECIES APPROVED BY THE CITY.

UM, THERE ARE SOME LARGER, UH, TREES THAT, THAT ARE ON THAT WEST EDGE THAT I THINK WILL DO A BETTER JOB OF BUFFERING THAN AND SCREENING THAN, UH, NEW LANDSCAPING WILL BE.

THOSE DETAILS WILL BE, UH, FLESHED OUT IN THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN AS, AS WE HAVE THEM DO A TREE SURVEY NOW THAT THE, THE TREES HAVE LEAFED OUT.

WE KNOW WHAT'S ALIVE AND WHAT WHAT ISN'T.

UH, AND AS ALSO AS WE WORK THROUGH, UH, THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, UH, DETAILS.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS THE MOST BASIC OF THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLANS.

UM, AND THERE IS SIGNIFICANT WORK, UH, LEFT TO DO IN THE DETAIL DEVELOPMENT, UH, PHASE AS WELL.

SO, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED FIVE TO ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UH, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REZONING AND BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AS WELL.

THANKS, AARON.

SO I KNOW THERE IS, UH, UM, I REPRESENT FROM RHM REAL ESTATE GROUP THAT'S, THAT'S ALSO HERE THIS EVENING.

UH, SO I WOULD, UH, INVITE THEM TO THE PODIUM TO MAKE ANY KIND OF COMMENTS OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UH, AT THIS TIME.

GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

ANDREW, A RUSSI OF RHM REAL ESTATE GROUP.

UM, SO, UH, YEAH, WE, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER HERE, UM, IS UH, IS SOMETHING WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT.

UM, IT'S, UH, UH, A PLAN AND A PROPOSAL THAT I THINK IS MUCH MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE CITY WANTS, UM, IN TERMS OF DENSITY, IN TERMS OF PRODUCT.

UH, IT'S A PRODUCT THAT WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT, THAT WE FEEL LIKE IS, UM, IN OUR PORTFOLIO, BEEN VERY ATTRACTIVE TO, TO DRAWING KIND OF YOUNGER MILLENNIAL CROWDS.

IT FITS IN WELL WITH AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I HAD A CHANCE TO, UH, REVIEW SOME OF THE FEEDBACK FROM THE WORKING SESSION.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UM, I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR APPROACH AND HOW WE SAW IT FITTING IN.

BUT ULTIMATELY, UM, WE WANT TO BE GOOD PARTNERS WITH THE CITY AND, AND BRING SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE HAPPY WITH.

AND THAT I THINK SATISFIES, YOU KNOW, THE, THE APPETITE THAT YOU HAVE FOR THIS PROPERTY.

UM, SO OUR KIND OF THOUGHT WAS THAT, UH, THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT, THAT FRONT EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD WOULD KIND OF SERVE AS, I GUESS THE, THE CONTINUITY BETWEEN WHAT METROPOLITAN HAS PROPOSED JUST TO THE WEST OF US WITH SOME OF THEIR BUILDINGS IN THE FRONT ON EXECUTIVE THAT KIND OF HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF, I GUESS, A MODERN, UH, UH, LOOK BY REALLY JUST KIND OF FLATTENING OUT THE ROOFS, UM, ON, ON THAT SIDE OF THE CREEK.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THE CITY, UM, AND COUNCIL HAS MAYBE A PREFERENCE FOR US TO KIND OF, UH, EMULATE THAT A LITTLE BIT DEEPER.

UM, SO WHAT WE'VE MOST RECENTLY KIND OF THOUGHT AND TALKED ABOUT WITH OUR ARCHITECTS, YOU DON'T SEE IT HERE TODAY CAUSE THIS IS KIND OF IN LIVE, UH, SPEED THAT I'M, I'M REPORTING THIS, BUT MY INTENT IS TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING THAT YOU CAN REVIEW, BUT IS TO KIND OF ESSENTIALLY JUST CONTINUE WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

SO THERE'S, UM, I DUNNO IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO, TO REFER TO THE SITE PLAN.

OH,

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YOU GOT IT.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE PREDOMINANTLY THE SAME.

SO THERE'S, UM, OVERALL THERE'S 30 STRUCTURES HERE.

I MEAN, THE, THE LAYOUTS OF THE UNITS WILL CHANGE A LITTLE BIT, BUT, AND THE EXTERIOR TREATMENTS WILL VARY TO CREATE VARIETY THROUGHOUT.

UM, BUT IN THE FRONT, THERE'S, THERE'S EIGHT STRUCTURES THERE THAT, WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING IS BASICALLY, UM, TAKING THOSE OUT AND, AND PUTTING SOMETHING, UM, ORIENTED REALLY THE OTHER WAY.

SOME MORE LONG EAST, WEST, BIGGER, BIGGER BUILDINGS THAT HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A, A MORE KIND OF HIGH DENSITY APPEARANCE TO THEM.

I THINK OVERALL WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE SAME UNIT COUNT.

WE FEEL GOOD AT THE 300 UNITS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT MIGHT EVEN VARY A LITTLE BIT.

UH, AS AARON MENTIONED, IF WE, WE LOOK TO, UH, INCREASE KIND OF, UM, GREEN SPACE, UM, WE MIGHT HAVE TO EXPAND ONE OF THE PONDS JUST A BIT.

BUT I GUESS THE INTENT OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN IS THAT, UM, WE HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK AND WE'RE OPEN TO IT, AND WE'RE EXPLORING OPPORTUNITIES TO KIND OF PUT SOMETHING AT THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, IF YOU WILL, THAT SITS DIRECTLY BEHIND, UH, THE RETAIL COMMERCIAL PIECE THAT WE'RE SHOWING THERE.

UM, THAT ACHIEVES, I THINK, WHAT YOU'RE AFTER IF I, IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, RESPOND IN MORE DETAILS, ANY, ANY FEEDBACK YOU HAVE.

NOW, SO IF YOU WOULD JUST HAVE, MAYBE JUST HAVE A SEAT RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THE PODIUM.

BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY JUST FOR PEOPLE TO, TO GIVE FEEDBACK AS WE GO THROUGH THE, THE PROCESS OF THE PROCEDURE HERE.

UM, SO APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS.

NEXT, I'LL CALL THE LAW DIRECTOR MAKING ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

NOTHING TO ADD, MR. MAYOR.

UH, AT THIS TIME I'M GONNA CALL IN ANY OTHER REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS OR STAFF TO MAKE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

SO, BRIAN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD ON, ON WHERE WE'RE AT IN THIS PROCESS? UM, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, UM, SOME OF THE, THE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS THAT CAME OUT OF THE, UH, WORK SESSION DISCUSSION REGARDING, UH, THE ELEVATIONS AND THE CONCEPTS, UH, THAT WERE INCLUDED AS PART OF THIS APPLICANT AND HOW THEY RELATE TO, UH, THE INTERESTS AND THE WANTS OF CITY COUNCIL.

UH, AND HAVING CONVERSATION WITH THE PLANNER AS WELL AS THE LAW DIRECTOR.

AND, UH, THE PLANNER MADE, UM, COMMENT TO THIS AS PART OF HIS PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.

THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, IS REALLY REFLECTIVE OF, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS, UH, THE ACCESS POINTS, THE, UH, THE ZONING AS WELL AS, UH, SOME BUFFERING CONDITIONS AND, UH, INGRESS IN EGRESS, THE ELEVATIONS.

AND SOME OF THE OTHER MATERIALS THAT'S PRESENTED AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION ARE REALLY CONCEPTUAL IN NATURE AND ARE NOT, UH, SUBJECT TO THE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME OUT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, RECOGNIZING THAT COUNCIL HAS A DESIRE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, IN THIS INSTANCE, UM, THERE IS A, A, A REPRESENTATION THAT THEY WANT FROM THAT THE CITY WANTS FROM THIS PROJECT.

UM, THE CITY DOES HAVE AN ABILITY, THE CITY COUNCIL DOES HAVE AN ABILITY TO ENDORSE, UM, A CONCEPT PLAN, OR, EXCUSE ME, NOT A CONCEPT PLAN TO ENDORSE, UH, ELEVATIONS, UH, UM, PRIOR TO, UH, TO THIS ITEM.

MOVING ON TO THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHERE THOSE ELEVATIONS WOULD, WOULD BE FINALIZED AND FORMALIZED THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY'S INTERESTS, UM, AS THE LANDOWNER, UM, IN, IN RELATION TO, UH, RH M'S INTEREST TO DEVELOP THE LAND, UM, AS, AS THE, UH, PURCHASING PARTY, UM, GOING FORWARD WITHOUT HAVING TO AMEND, UH, OR WITHOUT HAVING TO CONSIDER THIS AN AMENDMENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION.

SO, UM, AGAIN, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS AN ABILITY AT THE NEXT, UH, COUNCIL MEETING, UH, IF THIS DOES MOVE TO A SECOND READING TO PROVIDE AN ENDORSEMENT OR FOR SUPPORT OF A SPECIFIC SET OF, UM, ELEVATION DRAWINGS, THAT WOULD THEN BE THE FOCUS OF THE DETAIL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND SUCH ENDORSEMENT WOULD NOT REQUIRE A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF THIS BODY BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT AMENDING ANY RECOMMENDATION THAT HAS COME FORWARD FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THIS POINT.

SO I DID WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, UH, TO COUNSEL SINCE THAT WAS A POINT OF, UH, DISCUSSION AT THE LAST WORK SESSION.

BRAMAN, WHAT, SO WHEN WOULD WE SEE THOSE, THOSE, THOSE DRAWINGS THAT WE COULD EITHER SUPPORT, ENDORSE OR SAY, NOPE, NOT IT, UH, BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD WITH THE APPLICANT, UH, EARLIER TODAY, THOSE WOULD BE DOCUMENTS THAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE, UM, IN ADVANCE OF THE WORK SESSION NEXT WEEK.

UM, I BELIEVE IT'S NEXT WEEK, NO, IN TWO WEEKS.

UM, IS IT TWO WEEKS? YEAH, IN IT'S NEXT WEEK.

MAY 2ND.

OH, HOW TIME FLIES? UH, SO YES, IT WOULD BE, UH, YEAH, SO IT WOULD BE, UM, IN ADVANCE OF THE WORK SESSION NEXT WEEK.

UH, THEN THOSE WOULD BE PRESENTED FORMALLY, UM, AS PART OF THE, THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND THE NARRATIVE AT THE WORK SESSION.

SO THAT IF THERE WAS ANY FEEDBACK THAT COUNCIL WANTED TO GIVE EITHER, UH, IN SUPPORT OF, OR, UM, PERHAPS MAYBE IN SUGGESTION TWO, UH, THAT WOULD BE, UH, THAT WOULD BE OCCURRING AT THE

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WORK SESSION.

SO ANY FINAL ELEVATION DRAWINGS TO BE, UH, SUPPORTED AND ENDORSED COULD BE PRESENT DURING, UH, THE, UH, THE COUNCIL MEETING OF, UH, OF, UH, MAY 2ND, OR EXCUSE ME, OF, UH, MAY, IT IS EIGHTH, UH, WHERE THE SECOND READING WOULD BE APPROVED.

SO TONIGHT, THIS COULD MOVE TO A SECOND READING.

WE WOULD SEE NEW DRAWINGS AND ELEVATIONS AT THE WORK SESSION ON MAY 2ND, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR INPUT, AND THEN THE VOTE WOULD TAKE PLACE AT THE FOLLOWING COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE THE MAY.

MAY, MAY, THAT WOULD BE THE THIRD.

THAT'D BE THE MAY 8TH.

YEAH, MAY THAT WOULD STILL BE JUST THE SECOND.

WOULD IT BE THE SECOND READING THEN? OR THE, THAT WOULD BE THE SECOND READING.

SECOND READING THEN.

SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE WHERE WE'RE AT.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS, BRIAN.

SO NEXT, UH, I WOULD ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPROVAL OF THIS ISSUE.

NEXT I WOULD ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING ISSUE.

NEXT, I'D CALL MEMBERS OF THE SEAT RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

IS THERE ANYONE ON COUNCIL WHO HAS ANYTHING TO ADD? YES.

MAYOR AARON OR THE DEVELOPER, COULD YOU PLEASE HELP ME WITH THE QUESTION I HAVE? SO I NOTICED IN THE UPPER LEFT-HAND CORNER, THERE'S SOME PARKING SPACES THAT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR GUESTS TO COME.

SO IT ONE POINT, LIKE EVERY UNIT GETS LIKE ONE PARKING SPACE IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT I'M SEEING ON THE DRAWINGS FOR THE BUILDINGS? DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT? SO, UM, ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF EVERY BUILDING, THERE'S 12 PARKING SPACES.

THERE ARE 10 UNITS IN EACH BUILDING.

UM, THOSE WILL BE A MIX OF ONE AND TWO BEDROOMS, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY THERE'S, UH, SURFACE LOT PARKING THROUGHOUT.

THAT GETS US TO THAT 1.77 PARKING SPACES RATIO, WHICH WILL BE A COMBINATION OF, UM, RESIDENTS WHO PARK OUTSIDE AND THEIR GUESTS.

SO THEY'D PARK UNDER THE BUILDING.

CAN YOU, IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? YES.

SO, UM, I DUNNO IF THERE'S ANY ELEVATIONS I CAN YEAH.

SCROLL TO.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT.

UH, THERE YOU GO.

SO THIS IS LIKE ONE SIDE OF, OF ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS.

SO EACH OF THOSE DOORS, GARAGE DOORS, OKAY.

THOSE ARE GARAGE DOORS.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, BECAUSE I WAS MISSED THAT ALTOGETHER, SO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

SO, ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS LIKE, WHEN YOU GO TO A LARGE DISTRICT AND THERE'S A BIG AMUSEMENT ACROSS THE STREET, HOW ARE WE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THESE RESIDENTS ARE NOT BOTHERED BY PEOPLE WHO ALL GET A CLOSER SPOT OR THAT LOT'S FULL ACROSS THE STREET, ALL PARK HERE? HOW ARE WE GOING TO LIMIT ACCESS TO JUST THE GUESTS OR LIMIT THEM PARKING ON A BOULEVARD? SURE.

SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SECURITY, UM, AND WHAT THAT WOULD REALLY BE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, I THINK THE ARCHITECTS MAY HAVE EVEN INDICATED A GATE LOCATION HERE.

UM, WE'RE NOT SURE THAT WE WANT TO HAVE IT AS A TRULY LIKE GATED COMMUNITY, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH, UM, 24 7 SECURITY, BE IT, UM, A MAN'S SECURITY OR, OR AGAIN, JUST AN OPERATED GATE.

UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT FOR THAT REASON.

EXACTLY.

SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE ANSWER YET, BUT IT'S, IT'S A, WELL, IT'S ONLY SEVEN MONTHS A YEAR THERE'D BE A PROBLEM.

AND THE OTHER, IT WAS LIKE PARKING ALONG THE BOULEVARD.

I WOULD NOT LIKE THE PEOPLE FROM ACROSS THE STREET TO COME PARK ALONG THAT BOULEVARD EITHER.

UM, SO MAYBE WE'RE DENSER LANDSCAPING CLOSER TO THE ROAD, OR SURE.

I, I'M NOT SURE YOU GUYS ARE THE EXPERTS.

I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE FOR YOU.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BOULEVARD GOING IN, NOT ACTUALLY GOING IN AND THERE'S A CIRCLE.

UM, I WOULD NOT LIKE PARKING ALONG THAT BOULEVARD.

NEITHER WILL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

EXACTLY.

SO I, I THINK THE BOULEVARD WILL END UP BEING, UH, PRETTY MUCH AS NARROW AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL ALLOW US TO, TO MAKE IT WITH THEIR APPARATUS SIZE.

THANK YOU FOR ENTERTAINING THESE QUESTIONS.

I JUST, I SEE.

I'M LIKE, IT ONLY LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ONE SPOT IN FRONT AND OKAY, NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP.

REPLACE THOSE WITH SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT METROPOLITAN DID.

ANYONE ELSE? YES, MARK, ANDREW.

SORRY I COULDN'T MAKE LAST WEEK'S MEETING.

UH, I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO BRIAN TODAY THOUGH, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT YOU ORIGINALLY PROPOSED WAS MORE SUBURBAN, AND I THINK THE COUNCIL IS LEANING TOWARDS AT LEAST THE FRONT OF THE, UH, FACILITY TO BE MORE URBAN.

UM, I THINK WITH THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST OF THIS, I THINK THEY DID A NICE JOB TRANSITIONING FROM URBAN TO SUBURBAN.

UH, WILL YOU, UH, ADOPT THAT SAME CONCEPT WITH THIS? YES.

YEAH, SURE.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXPLORING NOW.

SO THERE WAS, AGAIN, THE, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE COLORED IN ORANGE.

THOSE ARE THE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES BEHIND WHAT'S YELLOW, THAT'S THE COMMERCIAL RETAIL.

SO THOSE FIRST EIGHT BUILDINGS, UM, WE'D ESSENTIALLY

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IT MIGHT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO BE UNIQUE AND HAVE OUR OWN PRODUCT, UM, BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT'LL HAVE THAT, I THINK IT'LL ACCOMPLISH THE SAME GOAL.

UM, AND I THINK BRIAN, THAT COUNCIL AT SOME POINT HAD REVIEWED RENDERINGS.

WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING AVAILABLE TO US AT THE WORK SESSION? UH, CORRECT.

WE CAN MAKE THOSE AVAILABLE TO YOU AT THE WORK SESSION SO THAT YOU CAN, UH, MAKE A COMPARISON TO WHAT YOU'D PREVIOUSLY SEEN AND EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR RELATIVE TO WHAT, UH, WHAT RH AND M UH, WILL HAVE AVAILABLE.

UH, THAT'S INFORMATION WE'VE ALSO SHARED WITH THEM, UH, AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN, UH, BRING FORWARD A PRODUCT THAT REPRESENTS THE, THE STYLE AND CHARACTERISTICS THAT COUNCIL, UM, ENJOYED AND SOME OF THE MATERIALS YOU'D SEEN PREVIOUSLY.

OKAY, THANKS.

SO, SO WHAT I SAW A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR DONIQUE, YOU PULLED IT UP ON ALRIGHT, TIM ACTUAL WEBSITE RIGHT? WAS LIKE THE BUILDING THAT WAS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THEIR WEBSITE.

DON, GO AHEAD.

WAS THAT, WAS THAT WHERE THAT CAME FROM? YEAH, YEAH, GO AHEAD.

HI ANDREW.

UH, YEAH, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE LOOKED AT THE, UH, AS FAR AS WE'VE BEEN LOOKING, LOOKING AT THIS, THIS COUNCIL'S A BODY LOOKED AT, UM, YOUR RENDERING.

THE, UM, UH, ONE ON THE RHM WEBSITE IS THAT RENDERING IT'S, UH, UNDER YOUR, UH, CLEVELAND STUDY, UH, VERY URBAN LOOKING, UH, DESIGN.

IT CLICKED, I THINK EVERYONE'S BUTTONS HERE ON THE COUNCIL, AND WE WERE, UM, ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO, UM, MARK SAID IT BEST, THE, THE SUBURBAN LOOK ALONG EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD.

UM, IN FACT, THE PREVIOUS, UH, HORIZON LINE PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US ACTUALLY HAD ONE STORY, UH, NICE LOOKING LITTLE HOMES WITH, UH, GRANDMA OUT THERE WATERING HER FLOWERS IN FRONT.

IT SPOKE NOTHING TO THIS BEING AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, WHICH IS WHAT THIS COUNCIL DESIRES.

SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR A VISION, UM, YOU NEED TO LOOK NO FURTHER THAN YOUR WEBSITE, UH, UNDER YOUR CLEVELAND STUDY.

THAT'S OUR VISION.

AND I DON'T MEAN TO SPEAK FOR ALL OF COUNCIL, BUT THAT'S OUR VISION FOR WHAT WE WANT TO SEE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ON EXECUTIVE THERE.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE DESIRES ARE OF COUNCIL, THAT YOU'VE NAILED IT THERE.

SURE, SURE.

YEAH, NO THANKS.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I WILL SAY, AND THIS IS NOT IN ANY, UM, IN ANY WAY PUSHING BACK, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE, UM, ARE IN A MULTITUDE OF PRODUCTS.

SO WE DO DO SOME VERY URBAN STUFF, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU HAVE NO CHOICE BUT ON ONE ACRE TO TRY AND GET AS MUCH DENSITY AS YOU CAN.

SO, UM, I THINK WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE AND OPEN TO EXPLORING AND TRYING TO MEET THAT, THAT APPETITE.

UM, YOU KNOW, BUT ALSO WORKING WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS A 17 ACRE SITE.

ALONG THOSE LINES THOUGH, I MEAN, PART OF THAT DISCUSSION WAS THE FACT THAT WE WERE OKAY WITH A MUCH HIGHER DENSITY PRODUCT THERE TO GET TO KIND OF GET THE LOOK AND THE AESTHETIC THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.

RICHARD.

UH, THOSE WERE GONNA BE SOME OF MY EXACT COMMENTS, UH, WHEN THIS WAS INITIALLY DISCUSSED WITH ME, UH, ROUGHLY SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS AGO.

AND, UM, I SEEN A, UH, A DESIGN THAT LOOKED EXTREMELY SEXY FOR AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, AND I SEEN WHAT WAS PROPOSED HERE THREE DAYS AGO.

UM, I HAD TO ROLL UP MY JO OFF THE FLOOR.

UM, IT WAS QUITE CONCERNING BECAUSE THOSE WERE NOT THE RENDERINGS I SEEN.

IT WAS NOT THE ANTICIPATED DENSITY.

UM, IT DID NOT HAVE THAT SEXINESS OF THE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL ASPECT OF THAT.

UM, AND, UH, AND, AND WITH THAT SAID, MAYOR, I, I REALLY URGE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT I HOPE THAT WE SEE NEXT IS GOING TO MIRROR THAT EXACT CONVERSATION.

UM, BECAUSE IF I WAS TO VOTE ON THIS NIGHTMARE, I COULD, I IT WOULD GET A NO FROM ME.

I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND.

I, I, I MEAN I, WHEN IT COMES TO THE WORK SESSION, I HOPE, I HOPE WE'RE SEEING THE SAME.

AND AGAIN, A AS, AS WE DISCUSSED LAST WEEK, UM, THIS IS OUR ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

WE GOT ONE SHOT AT THIS.

UM, AND THIS IS WHY AGAIN, WE ARE WHAT, SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS IN DISCUSSION OF WHAT WE WANT TO SEE THERE AND TO SEE SEVEN AND EIGHT MONTHS OF WHAT I PERCEIVE TO BE CONVERSATION COMPLETELY WASTED.

WHEN I SEEN THAT, I WAS LIKE, WHAT HAVE WE BEEN DOING FOR THIS PAST TIME? RIGHT? SO I'M HOPING OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS WE SEE SOMETHING EXTREMELY DIFFERENT IN ORDER TO GET A, UH, A SUPPORT OF THIS COUNCIL TO MOVE THIS PROJECT ALONG.

ANYONE ELSE ON COUNCIL? YES, MARK.

JUST TO CLARIFY, UH, BRIAN, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT NEXT WEEK SEEING SOME RENDERINGS? UH, YES.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE, UH, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IN HAVING HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT,

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ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, THANKS FOR THE DISCUSSION.

UM, NEXT I'LL ASK ONE LAST TIME IF THERE'S ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

SO BARRING ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE R Z BDP 23 DASH EIGHT IS NOT HEREBY CLOSED, WHICH NOW LEADS US TO ITEM 12

[ A Public Hearing Scheduled For April 24, 2023 By The Huber Heights City Council For Case RZ 23-09. The Applicant Is STP Holdings, LLC. The Applicant Is Requesting Approval Of A Rezoning From Office (O-1) To Commercial (B-1) For Property Located At 6740 Brandt Pike And Further Described As Parcel Number P70 00705 0001 On The Montgomery County Auditor's Map.]

ITEM 12 E A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 24TH, 2023 BY THE HUB RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE RZ 23 DASH NINE.

THE APPLICANT IS, IS S TP HOLDINGS, LLC.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR REZONING FROM OFFICE OH ONE COMMERCIAL, B ONE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 67 40 BRANT PIKE.

FURTHER DESCRIBED AS PARCEL NUMBER P 7 0 0 0 7 0 5 0 0 0 1 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP.

OKAY, IN THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 24TH, 2023 BY THE HUMAN RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL FOR CASE R Z 23 DASH ZERO NINE IS NOW OPEN.

AND ONCE AGAIN, WE'LL GO TO CITY STAFF TO MAKE THE ORIGINAL PRE THE INITIAL PRESENTATION.

AARON, WELCOME AGAIN.

OKAY, .

SO, UH, THIS IS A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT REQUEST TO GO FROM OFFICE ONE OR OH ONE TO UH, B ONE.

UH, IT'S, UH, JUST SLIGHTLY LARGER THAN A HALF ACRE.

UH, THE CURRENT ZONING IS GENERAL OFFICE.

IT IS A VACANT, UH, OFFICE BUILDING AT THE MOMENT.

UH, THE SURROUNDING ZONING IS, IS OH ONE TO THE NORTH R TWO AND R SIX ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE, AS WELL AS PLAN COMMERCIAL.

UH, THERE'S ALSO B ONE BK TO THE SOUTH.

UM, THE, UH, APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REZONING TO B ONE TO DEVELOP, UH, AND OPERATE A LAUNDROMAT AT THIS FACILITY.

I'LL ALSO, UH, MENTION THAT THE BROKER, UH, WHO IS LISTING THIS PROPERTY, UH, UM, ALL OF THE INTEREST FOR THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN, UH, RETAIL AND, AND DOES NOT FIT THE CURRENT OH ONE, UM, ZONING.

SO THIS IS THE SITE ALONG, UH, BRANT.

YOU CAN SEE, UH, IT IS NESTLED IN THE MIDDLE OF SOME, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY DENSE RESIDENTIAL AREA.

UH, LONG GRANT PIKE, UH, THE BUILDING'S IN GOOD CONDITION.

THE LAST TENANT WAS BAIN STAFFING.

UH, THEY ARE PLANNING REALLY JUST MINOR, UH, SITE IMPROVEMENTS AND MINOR BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS CUZ THEY'RE REALLY NOT, NOT A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS ARE NECESSARY.

UH, AS I MENTIONED, IT IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO SOME DENSE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.

UM, THE ZONING, UH, OR THE CON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, UNDER OUR NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THIS IS IN THE SOUTHTOWN PATTERN AREA, AND ONE OF THE KEY GOALS OF THIS AREA IS TO FOCUS ON RENOVATION, INFIELD DEVELOPMENT, AND THE INCREMENTAL BROADENING OF USES AND HOUSING TYPES.

STAFF DEALS AT THE REZONING FROM OH ONE TO B ONE IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THERE HAS BEEN AND CONTINUES TO BE LESS, UH, DEMAND FOR OFFICE SPACE.

UH, THAT TREND IS LIKELY TO CONTINUE.

UM, THE ZONING CHANGE WILL BROADEN THE POTENTIAL USES OF, UH, AN EXISTING BUILDING ON A KEY THOROUGHFARE.

THE LANDS TO THE SOUTH, UH, OUR ZONE FOR COMMERCIAL B ONE AND PLAN COMMERCIAL, UH, B ONE IS OUR, UH, LEAST, UH, INTENSE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED FIVE TO ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS, UH, ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, UH, AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO SENT ME A, A LINK, UH, TO A VIDEO THAT SHOWS, UH, THE INTERIOR OF ONE OF THEIR EXISTING FACILITIES IF, UH, IF COUNCIL, UH, IS INTERESTED.

PERFECT.

YES, IF YOU'LL BE READY TO KEY THAT UP, I'D APPRECIATE IT.

UH, THANK YOU.

SO, UH, IS ANYONE HERE FROM SEP HOLDINGS? YES, THIS EVENING.

UM, IF THERE IS, SO ACTUALLY THIS WILL BE, UH, A GREAT TIME IF YOU'D COME TO THE PODIUM.

UH, AND IF THERE'S ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO GIVE US OR, UH, JUST KIND OF HANG OUT UNTIL WE GET TO THE COUNCIL PORTION OF THE QUESTIONS, THAT'D BE GREAT.

BUT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME, UH, TO, TO SHOW THE VIDEO OF, OF, OF WHAT ONE OF THEIR LOCATIONS.

IT'S OKAY, I'VE GOT SOME NARRATION THAT GOES WITH IT.

THAT DENTON.

WOULD IT BE OKAY IF I, OKAY, SURE.

IF I PLAY THAT WHILE IT GOES, SO WE'LL TRY TO CUE IT UP HERE.

GO AHEAD.

PERFECT.

WELCOME TO THE LAUNDROMAT DAYTON'S MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY AND ENERGY EFFICIENT LAUNDROMAT.

TOP OF THE LINE ELECTROLUX PROFESSIONAL FOUR 50 G WASHERS SPEND FOUR TIMES FASTER THAN THE TYPICAL WASHING MACHINE.

THESE WASHERS USE 50% LESS WATER AND ARE THE ONLY MACHINES IN TOWN THAT USE HOSPITAL GRADE OZONE TECHNOLOGY TO KILL ALL BACTERIA AND VIRUSES, INCLUDING THE CORONAVIRUS.

OUR CUSTOMERS ENJOY A QUICK AND EASY TRIP TO THE LAUNDROMAT WITH A TOTAL WASH AND DRY TIME, LESS THAN 45 MINUTES.

MOST NOTABLY, THE LAUNDROMAT IS KNOWN FOR ITS CLEAN, WELL LIT, SECURE, AND FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT WHILE WASHING AND DRYING CUSTOMERS CAN ENJOY AIR CONDITIONING, INTERNET ACCESS, AND MANY OTHER AMENITIES.

THE LOCAL OWNERS OF THE LAUNDROMAT CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY AND ARE EXCITED TO PROVIDE THE HUBER HEIGHTS RESIDENTS WITH ACCESS TO A ONE

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UH, ANYWAY, UH, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, THANKS FOR, UH, LETTING US, UH, SHOW UP HERE THIS EVENING.

UH, FAMILY BUSINESS, MY WIFE AND I, UM, WE OPERATE THAT LAUNDROMAT IN KETTERING ON WILMINGTON PIKE, AND WE REALLY SEE SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN SOMEONE SAYS LAUNDROMAT, YOU MIGHT HAVE A CERTAIN IDEA OF WHAT THAT MEANS.

UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE VIDEO, IT'S, I GUESS THE TERM MIGHT BE UPSCALE IN A WAY, UH, MIGHT BE THE TERM WE USE FOR THAT.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SO WHO MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, WHY ANOTHER LAUNDROMAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE? WELL, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN YOUR NORMAL LAUNDROMAT.

FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THE ONE THING EVERYONE HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF ANYMORE MORRIS TIME.

THESE MACHINES ARE FAST, UM, IN A FACILITY THAT SIZE, UM, WITH A NUMBER OF MACHINES WE'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING IN, WHICH IS ABOUT JUST ABOUT 20 TO 24 WASHERS, ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF DRYERS.

UM, YOU, WE CAN GET A GOOD CUSTOMER COUNT THROUGH THERE OF A FACILITY ALMOST TWICE THE SIZE BECAUSE OF HOW FAST THESE MACHINES WORK AND HOW ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY THEY ARE.

UM, IT'S THE USERS OF, OF OUR LAUNDROMAT, UH, ARE YOUR RESIDENTS.

UM, SO THEY, THEY WOULD CHOOSE TO DO THEIR LAUNDRY IN OUR FACILITY AND ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS IS CLEANLINESS.

UH, I DUNNO IF YOU COULD TELL THERE, BUT WE REPLACE THE LIGHTING WITH REALLY GOOD BRIGHT LIGHTING SO THAT PEOPLE FEEL SAFE AND SECURE.

WE DON'T RUN A 24 HOUR MAT, WE TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM THE ISSUES THAT MIGHT COME WITH BEING OPEN 24 HOURS.

UH, TYPICALLY WE'RE, UH, UH, 7:00 AM UH, TO 9:00 PM THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, AND THAT'S IT.

UM, WE WILL HAVE ON STAFF, UH, ONSITE STAFF THERE THROUGHOUT THE DAY, OF COURSE, MAKING SURE THE PLACE IS SPOTLESS.

I MEAN, WHEN YOU COME IN, IT'S, UH, OUR, OUR GOAL WITH BUILDING OUR FIRST MAT, AND THIS WILL BE OUR SECOND MATT, IS REALLY, IF YOU WERE BUILDING A BRAND NEW HOME, UH, $500,000 OR ABOVE, YOU'RE GONNA PRETTY MUCH BUILD A VERY NICE LAUNDRY ROOM.

THIS IS, WE WANTED TO BE AT LEAST THAT NICE, IF NOT NICER.

AND, UH, I THINK THE OTHER, UH, SELLING POINT FOR OUR CUSTOMERS COMING TO US IS OUR, UH, INTEGRATION OF A HOSPITAL GRADE OZONE, UH, SYSTEM, WHICH, UH, SO EVERY TIME SOMEONE USES A WASHER, IT IS, UM, STERILIZED, UH, JUST LIKE THEY USE IN THE HOSPITAL.

SO, UH, THE PLACE IS CLEAN, UH, WELL LIT AND, UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE KNOW FOR US.

SO, PRETTY SHORT AND SWEET YOU SAW VIDEO, SO THAT PERFECT.

SO IF YOU'LL JUST KIND OF HA UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CLOSE, BUT YEAH, SO WE'LL GET TO THAT POINT OR MAYBE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

SO, PERFECT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

NEXT I'D CALL THE LAW DIRECTOR, MAKE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF YOU HAVE ANY.

NOTHING TO ADD, MR. MAYOR.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THE NEXT I'D ASK IS, IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR ZONING ISSUE? OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR ZONING ISSUE? OKAY, SEEING NONE NEXT, NOW I'LL CALL THE MEMBERS OF HEAT RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

IF YOU HAVE ANY COUNSEL.

ANITA, THIS IS FOR YOU.

YES, I'M JUST CURIOUS.

I MEAN, I'M, I'M GLAD YOU'RE COMING, BUT WHY DID YOU PICK HUBER? BECAUSE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THAT DIRECTION, A LAUNDROMAT GOING IN AND THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T FIND IT.

IT'D BE VIABLE HERE.

THAT THERE'S ENOUGH.

SO WHAT ARE YOU FINDING THAT YOU THINK IT IS GONNA BE VIABLE? WELL, WHAT, WHAT WE LOOK AT IS REALLY DEMOGRAPHICS.

UM, AND NOT ONLY DENSITY, BUT UH, REALLY JUST LOOKING AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE COMMUNITY, UM, BY WAY OF, YOU KNOW, WHO LIVES, WHAT PEOPLE'S INCOME LEVELS ARE, UH, AS WELL AS UM, YOU KNOW, JUST REALLY TAKING THE CONSIDERATION OF, OF WHAT THE COMPETITION IS TOO.

UM, OURS IS NOT JUST A REGULAR ANOTHER LAUNDROMAT.

I MEAN IT REALLY IS DIFFERENT INSIDE, UH, PEOPLE COME THERE AND THE COMMENT WE GET EVERY DAY FROM OUR CUSTOMERS, WE LOVE THIS.

IT'S SO CLEAN, SO WELL LIT.

I FEEL SAFE HERE.

UM, THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION ARE IDENTICAL TO, OR NOT IDENTICAL, BUT VERY SIMILAR TO OUR KETTERING LOCATION.

AND, UH, IT'S BEEN OUR, OUR LOCATION THERE HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL FOR ALL OF THOSE ATTRIBUTES THAT I THINK I MENTIONED ABOUT THAT.

IT IS DIFFERENT.

IT'S NOT JUST A UNDER THE LAUNDROMAT.

I MEAN, UH, ONE OF THE FEATURES THAT WE HAVE IS THAT WE'RE REALLY UP TO DATE.

IF YOU'RE UNDER 35 YEARS OLD, MOST PEOPLE DON'T.

I MEAN A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS, UH, THEY MIGHT NOT EVEN CARRY CREDIT CARD EVERY MACHINE IN OUR LAUNDROMAT.

UM, YOU CAN USE APPLE PAY, GOOGLE PAY, UM, YOU CAN START THE MACHINES FROM YOUR PHONE WHILE YOU'RE THERE.

UM, IT'S NOT THE SAME OLD MATT.

AND SO WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S A NEED THAT'S UNDERSERVED IN HUBER HEIGHTS AND WE THINK, UH, IT WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION FOR YOUR, UH, CITIZENS COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

YOU KNOW, CUZ IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY AVAILABLE HERE.

SO HOPEFULLY I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS.

ANYONE ELSE? DON? UH, JUST FOR THE APPLICANT? YEAH, I VISITED YOUR, UH, LOCATION.

OKAY, KATHERINE, AND, UH, YOU LEFT OUT THAT IT SMELLS

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REALLY NICE.

OH, VERY PRETTY.

UM, WELL LAID OUT.

SEE THAT? UM, WELL WHEN YOU WALKED IN YOU PROBABLY NOTICED THAT IT DIDN'T HAVE A MUSTY SMELL, RIGHT? IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT OZONE SYSTEM.

THE, YEAH.

SO FRANK, THANK YOU FOR THE NICE COMMENTS.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANKS DON.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, SO ONE LAST TIME IS EVERYONE PRESENT WHO WISH YOU TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CASE? OKAY.

SO BARRING ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, THE PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CITY OF COUNCIL FOR CASE RZ 23 DASH NINE IS NOT HEREBY CLOSED.

OKAY, WHICH BRINGS US TO THE ADMINISTRATION PORTION OF THIS EVENING.

AND THAT WOULD BE ITEM 12

[ An Ordinance To Approve A Rezoning From Planned Commercial (PC) To Agriculture (A) For The Property Located Behind And North Of 8101 Old Troy Pike And Further Identified As Parcel Number P70 02025 0012 On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Map And To Accept The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Case RZ 23-03). (first reading)]

ITEM 12 F AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REZONING FROM PLAIN COMMERCIAL PC TO AGRICULTURE A FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED BEHIND AND NORTH OF 81 0 1 OLD TROY PIKE.

FURTHER DESCRIBED AS PARCEL NUMBER P 7 0 0 2 0 2 5 0 12 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP AND TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN CASE RZ 23 DASH THREE AT THE FIRST STREET.

BRIAN COMMENTS, UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

COUNSEL WAS PREVIOUSLY BRIEFED ON THIS MATTER THIS EVENING.

IT IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS MATTER BE PASSED TO A SECOND READING.

THERE WAS THE RECOMMENDATION.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS TO A SECOND READ CASING? NONE.

WE'LL MOVING ON AND NEXT UP IS ITEM 12 G.

ITEM

[ An Ordinance To Approve A Major Change To The Basic Development Plan For The Property Located At 7730 Brandt Pike And Further Identified As Parcel Number P70 02114 0003 On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Map And To Accept The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Case MJC 23-07). (first reading)]

12 G.

AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A MAJOR CHANGE TO THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 77 30 BRANT PIKE.

FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL NUMBER P 70 0 2 114 0 0 3 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP AND TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION CASE MJC 23 DASH ZERO SEVEN AT THE FIRST READING.

BRIAN COMMENTS? UH, THANK YOU SIR.

THIS ORDINANCE PERTAINS TO THE PROPOSED, UH, REUSE OF THE BANK IN FRONT OF WALMART, UH, TO BE REPURPOSED FOR A FLYING ACES CARWASH AS WAS PRESENTED EARLIER IN TONIGHT'S MEETING AND WAS RECOMMENDED THIS ITEM BE MOVED TO A SECOND READING.

OKAY, OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS TO A SECOND READING.

OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE IT ON.

AND NEXT IS ITEM

[ An Ordinance To Approve A Rezoning From Planned Employment Park (PEP) To Planned Mixed Use (PM) For The Property Located At 7125 Executive Boulevard And Further Identified As Parcel Numbers P70 03190 0080 And P70 03190 0081 And A Basic Development Plan For Parcel Number P70 01820 0003 And Lot #1 And Lot #4 Of The Pride One Subdivision On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Map And To Accept The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Case RZ BDP 23-08). (first reading)]

12 H.

ITEM 12 H AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A REZONING FROM PLANNED EMPLOYMENT PARK, P E P TO PLANNED MIXED USE PM FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 71 25 EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD.

FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL NUMBERS P 70 0 3 190 0 0 8 0 AND P 7 0 0 3 1 9 0 0 0 8 1.

AND A BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PARCEL NUMBER P 7 0 0 1 8 2 0 0 0 0 3 AND LOT NUMBER ONE AND LOT NUMBER FOUR OF THE PRIDE ONE SUBDIVISION ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITOR'S MAP TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION CASE.

RZ BDP 23 DASH EIGHT AT THE FIRST READING.

BRIAN COMMENTS? UH, THANK YOU SIR.

COUNSEL WAS PREVIOUSLY BRIEFED THIS MATTER ADVANCES THE INTERESTS BY FOUR MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL INTERESTS ALONG EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD.

THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS ITEM BEING MOVED TO A SECOND.

READING.

YES, IT WAS.

ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY, SCENE NONE.

WE'LL MOVE THIS ON TO SECOND READING AND WE'LL, UH, WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THOSE DRAWINGS AT THE WORK SESSION ON TUESDAY.