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[1. Call The Meeting To Order - Mayor Jeff Gore]
EVENING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF HUB HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL MEETING, REGULAR SESSION.TODAY'S DATE IS FEBRUARY 27TH, 2023.
WE'RE GETTING STARTED RIGHT AT 6:00 PM THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDER.
[2. Invocation - Mister Raby Of The New Seasons Ministry At 5711 Shull Road, Huber Heights, Ohio]
ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING IS OUR INVOCATION BY MR. RAEY OF THE NEW SEASONS MINISTRY AT 57 11 S SCHUL ROAD.HERE IN HE WRITES, GOOD AFTERNOON.
IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO DO THE INVOCATION.
WOULD YOU BOW ME IN A WORD OF PRAYER? OUR FATHER AND OUR GOD, WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY, AND WE LIFT UP OUR MAYOR, OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, OUR LOCAL LEADERS, ALL WHO SERVE OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
FATHER, THERE ARE MANY CHALLENGES, ISSUES, CONCERNS, UH, THAT PEOPLE BRING UP.
AND THERE ARE MANY VOICES THAT CRY OUT EVERY DAY.
MY PRAYER IS THAT ABOVE ALL THAT THEY WOULD HEAR YOUR VOICE.
AND AS WE LOOK TO OUR CITY LEADERS FOR ASSURANCE AND GUIDANCE, I ASKED THAT SHE WOULD INSPIRE THEM AND SPEAK THROUGH THEM, THROUGH THE POWER OF YOUR HOLY SPIRIT.
STRENGTHEN THEM WITH WISDOM AND GRACE FOR THE HEAVY BURDENS THAT THEY HAVE TO CARRY.
MY PRAYER IS THAT THEY WOULD KEEP THEIR HEARTS PURE AND THEIR EYES TOWARDS YOUR FACE AS THEY WORK FOR THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT CITY THAT THEY'RE CALLED TO SERVE.
SO THAT WE MAY LEAD A QUIET AND PEACEFUL LIFE IN A GODLY, DIGNITY AND, AND DIGNIFIED WAY.
[3. Flag Ceremony - Wayne High School Junior ROTC Honor Guard]
BREATHE THAT CODE[4. Pledge Of Allegiance]
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE LATTER OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE OF LIBERTY, AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.[5. Roll Call]
MR. ROGERS, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? MR. SHAW? HERE.IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE MR. LYON'S ABSENCE? WHAT? MOTION TO EXCUSE.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND MOTION IN THE SECOND? OKAY.
SO NEXT FAILS, UH, THE APPROVAL OF MR. LINE'S ABSENCE FAILS.
[6. Approval Of Minutes]
SIX, APPROVAL OF MINUTES, WE HAVE ITEM SIX, A CITY COUNCIL MEETING, MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 13TH, 2023.THOSE MINUTES HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED.
THESE MINUTES WILL STAND AS APPROVED.
ANY CORRECTIONS? OKAY, THOSE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
[7. Special Presentations/Announcements]
UP IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS, MR. ROGERS.ITEM SEVEN, A DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES AWARENESS MONTH PROCLAMATION, PRESENTATIONS OF REPRESENTATIVES OF CHOICES IN COMMUNITY LIVING.
AND THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY SERVICES BY MAYOR JEFF COR.
SO I'D ASK THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM BOTH ORGANIZATIONS TO COME, UH, TO THE FRONT HERE TO JOIN MAYOR GORE.
SO IT'S JUST, IT'S THE SAME NUMBER FOR TWO MINUTES.
GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE, YOU'RE GONNA JUST FACE THIS WAY HERE.
YOU'RE ACTUALLY GONNA COME UP AND FACE OUT TO THE AUDIENCE, AND WE'LL GET YOU ON CAMERA.
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TO SEE YOU.SO THIS EVENING WE HAVE, UH, MAYOR PROCLAMATION FOR DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES AWARENESS.
SO ORGANIZE INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, THEIR FAMILIES, FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS, AND COWORKERS.
ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO FOCUS ON THE ABILITIES OF ALL PEOPLE.
AND WHEREAS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO INCREASE THIS AWARENESS IS THROUGH EVERYONE'S ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IN COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES AND THE OPENNESS TO LEARN AND ACKNOWLEDGE EACH INDIVIDUAL'S CONTRIBUTIONS.
AND WHEREAS OPPORTUNITIES FOR CITIZENS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES TO FUNCTION AS INDEPENDENTLY AND PRODUCTIVELY AS POSSIBLE MUST BE FOSTERED IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE'RE, AS GALVANIZING EFFORTS TO CREATE EQUITABLE AND INCLUSIVE ENVIRONMENTS FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES IS A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY THAT WILL LEAD COMMUNITIES AND POLICY MAKERS TO CREATE REAL SYSTEMS OF CHANGE.
WHEREAS ALL CITIZENS ARE ENCOURAGED TO SUPPORT OPPORTUNITIES FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES IN THE HUB HEIGHTS COMMUNITY, INCLUDING FULL ACCESS TO EDUCATION, HOUSING, EMPLOYMENT, AND RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, JEFF MOORE, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MARCH, 2023 AS DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES AWARENESS MONTH, AND RECOGNIZES THAT COMMUNITIES ARE STRONGER WHEN EVERYONE PARTICIPATES IN PROMOTING AWARENESS OF DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY IN WITNESS FOR, I APPEAR TO SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF HUB HEIGHTS TO BE AFFIXED AS 27TH DAY OF FEBRUARY AND YEAR OF OUR AWARD 2020.
WE WANNA SAY ANYTHING? YES, PLEASE.
WE JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS OUR THANKS AND APPRECIATION, UH, CHOICES HAS BEEN, WE HAVE THREE HOMES AND AN ADULT DAY PROGRAM HERE IN THE HUBER AREA.
WE'VE BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR A NUMBER OF DOUBLE DIGIT YEARS.
AND WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF ALL YOU DO, HOW YOU HAVE WELCOMED US AND EMBRACED US IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO A LONG STANDING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF HUBER CHOICES IN THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY.
I JUST WANNA SAY I'M MADELINE ISLEY, CHAIR OF THE DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY SERVICES BOARD, AND ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, THANK YOU MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, UH, I SERVE ON THE BOARD BECAUSE I HAVE A SISTER WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.
SO THE WORDS THAT YOU READ JUST NOW, MAYOR, JUST REALLY TOUCHED MY HEART.
THANKS TO THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS FOR BEING SO NEIGHBORLY AND OPEN AND WELCOMING.
OKAY, AND NEXT UP IS ITEM SEVEN B.
ITEM SEVEN B ANNOUNCEMENT, CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE PROVISIONS OF THE OHIO REVISED CODE.
THE CLERK OF COUNSEL OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS IS IN RECEIPT OF THE COMPLETE AND CERTIFIED RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS RELATED TO THE PETITION FOR ANNEXATION FOR 260.369 ACRES, MORE OR LESS.
AND BETHEL TOWNSHIP TO THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, CLERK OF COUNSEL, IS PROVIDING NOTICE TO THE HUB RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL OF THE RECEIPT OF THE COMPLETE RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS RELATED TO THE PETITION FOR ANNEXATION TO INITIATE CONSIDERATION OF THE PETITION FOR ANNEXATION IN ACCORDANCES WITH THE APPLICABLE PROVISIONS OF THE OHIO REVISED CODE.
[8. Citizens Comments]
ON NUMBER EIGHT, CITIZENS COMMENTS.SO FIRST UP, WE HAVE LOU KNAPP, IF YOU PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.
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OKAY.UM, I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE PROFITS THAT, UH, THE ROSE HAS EARNED.
UM, YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THE ARTICLE THAT WAS IN THE DAYTON DAILY, AND IT TALKED ABOUT THE RECORD PROFITS THAT THE CITY HAS, UH, GENERATED.
I'LL JUST READ PORTIONS OF THIS.
I WON'T READ THE ENTIRE THING, BUT PORTIONS OF IT.
THE ROSE HAS BECOME A SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL ASSET TO THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
WITH THE VENUE REPORTING PROFITS TOTALING 1.2 MILLION IN 2022.
UM, CITY MANAGER, MR. KOWSKI WAS QUOTED AS SAYING A HUNDRED THOUSAND OF THIS WAS REINVESTED INTO THE VENUE, LEAVING A TOTAL TAKE HOME PROFIT OF 1.08 MILLION.
AND THEN MAYOR GORE, YOU RECORDED AS SAYING THE PROFIT GENERATED FROM THE VENUE FINANCES, OTHER ASSETS WITHIN THE CITY.
IT HELPS US PAY FOR PARKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WITHOUT A NEED TO HAVE A RECREATIONAL LEVY LIKE OTHER CITIES HAVE.
IT'S A GREAT REVENUE GENERATOR FOR THE CITY.
MY QUESTION TO THE COUNCIL IS WHY NOT GIVE A TAX BREAK TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY? UM, WHEN WAYNE TOWNSHIP WAS INCORPORATED AS A CITY BACK IN 1981, THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY WERE PROMISED THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE A TAX, A CITY TAX.
WELL, THAT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE, BUT WHY NOT GIVE A TAX BREAK TO THE RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY WITH THIS REVENUE? UM, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD FEEL GRATEFUL THAT WE DON'T HAVE A RECREATION LEVY LIKE OTHER CITIES.
UM, THE CITY OF HUBERT HEIGHTS HAS A TAX RATE OF 2.25, ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN THE AREA.
ONLY OAKWOOD AT 2.5 HAS A HIGHER RATE.
I THINK WHERE THE MONEY SHOULD GO IS INTO THE POCKETS OF THE TAXPAYERS.
UH, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS, THE PREMISE GIVEN TO THE TAXPAYERS OF THIS CITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT IT LACKS INDUSTRY OR OTHER COMPANIES TO GENERATE REVENUE.
THEN THE LOGICAL ASSUMPTION WOULD BE THAT WHEN WE DO HAVE FACILITIES THAT GENERATE CONSIDERABLE REVENUE, THAT TAX RATE SHOULD GO BACK TO THE, TO THE TAXPAYERS.
THE TAX RATE SHOULD BE LOWERED AND NOT REINVESTED IN PARKS AND BUILDINGS.
I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, THE PREMISE HAS ALWAYS BEEN TOLD TO THE TAXPAYERS THAT, LOOK, WE GOTTA RAISE THE TAX RATE OF THE CITY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, INDUSTRY.
THEN THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT SHOULD BE WHEN WE DO GENERATE CONSIDERABLE REVENUE.
SHOULDN'T THAT GO BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS WITH A LOWER RATE? YOU CAN, YES.
HEY, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO TAKE UP A MOTION TO TAKE UP THIS ISSUE AT A LATER DATE.
NO MOTION THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE AT THIS STRUCTURE IN THE MEETING.
THESE ARE JUST FOR YOU TO MAKE YOUR REMARKS AND COUNSEL WILL TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND, AND TAKE ACTION LATER IF THEY TRUST TO DO.
HOW WILL I KNOW? SO WE WOULD HAVE WORK SESSIONS, AND IF THAT'S GONNA BE A TOPIC OR AN ITEM OF DISCUSSION, THEN IT'LL BE ON, IT'LL BE PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA THAT WE WOULD HAVE.
UH, CUZ ALL ALL INFORMATION THAT GOES TO A COUNCIL MEETING WE TALK ABOUT ON THE WORK SESSION PRIOR TO IS THAT ONLINE? THAT'S THE CITY WEBSITE.
NEXT UP WE HAVE JENNIFER CORCORAN.
GOOD EVENING, AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
I'VE BEEN A CITIZEN IN HUBER HEIGHTS FOR 51 AND A HALF YEARS, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T LOOK LIKE I COULD BE THAT OLD
UM, I HAVE MY SON WITH ME, MATTHEW HILTON, WHO HAS BEEN IN HUBER HEIGHTS FOR 22 YEARS.
I HAVE TWO OTHER BOYS, 25 AND 24 WHO COULDN'T MAKE IT.
WE HAVE SOME FAMILY MEMBERS, UM, WITH US AS WELL.
AND THE REASON THAT I'M HERE TONIGHT, I, I JUST COULDN'T HAVE PICKED A BETTER NIGHT BECAUSE
UM, AND I'M HERE TO BRING INFORMATION TO THE BOARD AND TO THE CITIZENS OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
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BEEN AN EDUCATOR FOR 17 YEARS.UM, I ACTUALLY WORK WITH THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY SERVICES.
AT THIS TIME, I CONTRACT AS A PROGRAM MANAGER, UM, NOT A PROGRAM MANAGER OR PROGRAM CONSULTANT.
AND, UM, I'M ALSO CO-LEAD FOR AN ORGANIZATION CALLED CHANGING SPACES.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE WEARING, AND WHAT I WANNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT IS HEIGHT ADJUSTABLE ADULT CHANGING TABLES.
AND I KNOW THE RESTROOM IS NOT A, A POPULAR TOPIC THAT WE, WE WANNA TALK ABOUT, BUT, UM, I REALIZE THAT UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE MATTHEW, YOU PROBABLY DON'T REALIZE THAT WHEN WE, WE WANT TO HAVE OUR CITY BE ACCESSIBLE AND WE WANT TO INCLUDE ALL OF OUR INDIVIDUALS.
MATTHEW'S NOT INCLUDED IN THAT BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A PLACE FOR ME TO CHANGE HIM IF WE LEAVE OUR HOUSE.
SO I ASK, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN YOUR ERRANDS FOR THE DAY, OR IF YOU WANNA GO TO THE MOVIE, OR IF YOU WANNA GO TO THE ZOO, OR YOU WANNA GO TO A PLAY, OR YOU WANNA GO TO THE PARK, WOULD YOU REALLY GO KNOWING YOU CAN'T GO TO THE BATHROOM? IF YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO STOP EVERYTHING AND GO HOME, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS.
AND MATTHEW IS ONE OF, UM, APPROXIMATELY 500,000 INDIVIDUALS IN THE STATE OF OHIO AND 8 MILLION PEOPLE WITHIN THE, THE UNITED STATES THAT HAVE A DISABILITY THAT WOULD AFFECT SELF-CARE.
UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF ADVOCATES WHOSE PARENTS WOULD NEED A, A TABLE IN WHICH THAT THEY COULD BE CHANGED THERE.
AND WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW, AND AGAIN, I WOULDN'T EXPECT YOU TO KNOW THIS, AND THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING THIS TO YOU.
WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW IS PEOPLE ARE CHANGING INDIVIDUALS ON BATHROOM FLOORS AND THE PACKETS THAT I'VE GIVEN YOU AND THE PACKETS THAT WE'RE GONNA PASS AROUND, CAUSE I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT TOYS FOR EVERYBODY, UM, SHOW PICTURES OF THAT.
PEOPLE ARE CHANGING INDIVIDUALS ON BATHROOM FLOORS.
I'VE NEVER DONE THAT WITH MATTHEW BECAUSE I CHOOSE NOT TO.
MATTHEW HAS BEEN FULLY INCLUDED.
PETER'S SCHOOL BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE EDUCATED OUR CHILDREN.
I STARTED A NONPROFIT SO THAT THE FUNDING WOULD BE THERE FOR HIS EDUCATION, AND IT'S STILL GOING TO TO FUND OTHERS.
HE WENT TO WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL IN, UM, IN HIS HIGH SCHOOL YEARS AND HAD AN EXCELLENT EDUCATION THERE AS WELL.
HE'S FULLY INCLUDED WITH THE FAMILY.
WE, WE, WE DO EVERYTHING THAT WE WOULD DO, WHETHER MATTHEW HAD HIS CHALLENGES OR NOT.
THE ONE THING IN 22 YEARS THAT HAS GOTTEN IN OUR WAY IS THERE'S NO PLACE FOR ME TO CHANGE MATTHEW.
WE HAVEN'T TRAVELED OUT OF STATE FOR AT LEAST SIX YEARS TO GO TO COLUMBUS.
AND SO FOR SEVERAL YEARS, WE JUST DIDN'T GO.
SO NOW WE PACK UP AND WE GO KNOWING AT ANY POINT WE MAY HAVE TO TURN AROUND AND GO HOME, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW MY ONLY OPTION IS IN MY VAN ON THE SEAT, AND I CAN'T STAND UP IN THE VAN.
AND I'M LIFTING MY 108 POUND SON WHO'S ALMOST AS TALL AS ME.
SO, BUT THERE IS A SOLUTION, AND THAT IS THESE HEIGHT ADJUSTABLE ADULT CHANGING TABLES.
WE ALSO CALL THEM UNIVERSAL TABLES BECAUSE ANYBODY CAN BE CHANGED ON THEM.
YOU DON'T NEED A BABY CHANGING TABLE IF YOU HAVE THEM.
AND WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING, UM, YOU KNOW, BACK IN 2014, WE, UH, INITIATED LEGISLATION.
WE'VE HAD THREE BILLS IN THE OHIO SENATE.
WE'VE HAD ONE IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
WE HAD CONCURRENT BILLS IN 2019 THAT FAILED IN 2020.
SENATOR PEGGY LAER WAS OUR CHAMPION.
SHE, SHE PUSHED AND SHE DID WHAT SHE COULD.
REPRESENTATIVE RICK PERELLIS WORKED WITH US, UM, IN THE HOUSE.
THE GOOD THING THAT CAME FROM THAT THOUGH, WAS THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL GOT IN TOUCH WITH US THROUGH SENATOR LANE'S HOUSE, OR WELL, HER, NOT HER HOUSE.
SHE'S PROBABLY THERE MORE THAN, THAN HOME, BUT HER, UH, HER OFFICE.
AND SO I'VE WORKED WITH THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL FOR A COUPLE YEARS, AND WE HAVE WRITTEN CODE, WHICH YOU HAVE A COPY OF, AND THE SPECS THAT WILL BE IN 2024 INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE.
AND AS MOST OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE DONE, BECAUSE NOW OHIO NEEDS TO ADOPT THAT BUILDING CODE.
WE HAVE PETITIONED, UH, WE'VE ALREADY MET.
UM, AND WE HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
SO IT WILL BE IN THE OHIO BUILDING CODE 2024 AS WELL.
AND THE REQUIREMENT WILL BE IN HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS.
UM, AGAIN, THERE I, IN ONE OF YOUR, UM, DOCUMENTS, I'VE, I'VE OUTLINED WHAT THE,
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WHAT THE CODE ENTAILS AND WHAT THE SPECS ARE.AND YOU KNOW, I I, I TELL MATTHEW OFTEN, YOU KNOW, BUDDY, I DON'T KNOW THAT WITHIN OUR LIFETIME WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GO OUT FREELY AND HAVE THESE TABLES, BUT WE'RE GONNA FIGHT UNTIL THE END SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A COMMUNITY THAT IS ACCESSIBLE.
SO I JUST WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
UM, WHY, WHAT, OH, THERE'S MORE.
SO GOVERNOR DEWINE, UM, AND HIS PROPOSED BILL, OUR, UM, BUDGET IS GIVING, HE IS PROPOSING 701 MILLION TO, UH, INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.
UM, DIRECTOR KIM HOUK HAS PUBLISHED THAT.
UM, UNIVERSAL TABLES ARE WITHIN THAT BUDGET, THAT PROPOSED BUDGET.
SO, YOU KNOW, LATER THIS WEEK, WE'LL BE TESTIFYING FOR THAT BUDGET TO BE, TO GO THROUGH.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, THERE IS A MOVEMENT, THE CHANGING SPACES THAT WE'RE A PART OF.
UM, I CO-LEAD THE OHIO CHAPTER.
THERE ARE 19 STATES WITHIN THIS NATIONAL ORGANIZATION.
AND IT'S JUST A BUNCH OF US MOMS THAT ARE PULLING TOGETHER.
IT'S BEEN IN, IN, WE'VE BEEN GOING FOR MANY YEARS.
SO WHEN A TABLE GOES IN, IT'S ACROSS THE NATION WITH THE CLICK OF A BUTTON.
WE ARE, WE ARE MAKING OUR VOICES BE HEARD.
AND WE HAVE SEEN TREMENDOUS PROGRESS.
RECENTLY, THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY SERVICES, UH, DR.
PAMELA COMBS WROTE FOR ARPA FUNDS TO BE USED TO INSTALL THE TABLES ACROSS MONTGOMERY COUNTY.
SO WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON UTILIZING THOSE FUNDS TO HELP BUSINESSES INSTALL THE TABLES.
UM, WE, UM, I'VE HAVE STARTED A NONPROFIT.
UM, WE ARE JUST GETTING GOING.
AND OUR, OUR MISSION IS TO RAISE FUNDS, WRITE GRANTS, SO THAT WE CAN ALSO ASSIST WITH BUSINESSES IN INSTALLING.
THE LIBRARY THAT'S GOING IN IN HUBER HEIGHTS WILL HAVE A TABLE.
SHE, SHE IS ONE PERSON THAT I REACHED OUT TO, UH, WHEN THEY STARTED BUILDING, WHEN THEY TALKED ABOUT BUILDING.
AND SHE IMMEDIATELY SAID, SURE, WHY NOT? SHE GOT HER ARCHITECT INVOLVED.
IT DID NOT TAKE A LOT OF, UM, CHANGES.
SO WE WILL HAVE ONE IN HUBER HEIGHTS, WHICH IS A, A GOOD WIN.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE BUILDING.
LOOK AT ALL THE BUILDING THAT'S GOING ON.
IT IS MUCH EASIER TO PUT THESE TABLES IN IN A NEW BUILD VERSUS A RETROFIT.
IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE, BUT IT'S DIFFICULT.
THE TABLES THEMSELVES RUN ANYWHERE FROM $2,800 TO, I MEAN, YOU CAN GO UP TO 15,000.
IT'S NOT A HUGE EXPENSE, ESPECIALLY FOR A NEW BUILDING.
I HAVE REACHED OUT TO MOST OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE BUILDING WITHIN HUBER HEIGHTS, AND I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK.
SO WHY AM I HERE TONIGHT? I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE EDUCATED BY THIS, AND I NEED THE BACKING.
I NEED PEOPLE TO BE AWARE AND TO SHARE THE INFORMATION AND TO WORK WITH ME TO HELP US COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS SO THAT WE CAN INCLUDE MORE TABLES.
SO AS WE'RE PROCLAIMING THAT WE WANT OUR INDIVIDUALS TO BE INCLUDED, THIS WOULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE FOR US.
SO WITHIN YOUR PACKETS, I'VE GOT AS MUCH CONTACT INFORMATION WE HAVE.
WE HAVE OUR GMAIL, WE HAVE OUR FACEBOOK THAT I URGE EVERYBODY TO TAKE A LOOK AT BECAUSE WE, THIS, THIS IS HOW YOU CAN LEARN MORE.
MY CO-LEAD JUST PUT IT TOGETHER AND SHE IS FANTASTIC.
AND IT CHANGES ALL THE TIME AS WE LEARN MORE.
SO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING YOU WOULD EVER WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THESE TABLES, WHAT IT TAKES TO PUT THEM IN PERSONAL STORIES IN THE NEWS.
WE WERE ON THE NEWS LAST WEEK, ACTUALLY, UM, TALKING ABOUT THIS.
SO, UM, THE WEBSITE, I URGE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK, LOOK AT THE INFORMATION, PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THE INFORMATION THAT I'VE SHARED WITH YOU IN YOUR PACKETS, AND THEN I, I URGE YOU TO REACH OUT BECAUSE, UM, WE PROBLEM SOLVE, AND I'M NOT HERE TO PUT ANYBODY DOWN FOR NOT DOING THIS BECAUSE AGAIN, I DI I WOULDN'T EXPECT YOU TO KNOW THIS UNTIL I BRING IT TO YOU.
BUT NOW THAT YOU KNOW IT, PLEASE PARTNER WITH ME AND OUR ORGANIZATION SO THAT WE CAN INCLUDE OUR INDIVIDUALS.
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JENNIFER, THANKS SO MUCH.UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN YOU ASKED THE QUESTION IN THE BEGINNING, KIND OF WHEN YOU STARTED, UM, I THINK IT, THIS IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE, I THINK FOR PROBABLY EVERYBODY ON THIS DICE AND EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM, THAT UNTIL YOU'RE CONFRONTED WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
I THINK THAT'S JUST LIKE, NOW THAT SEEMS LIKE COMMON SENSE, RIGHT? SO I THINK IT'S, UH, AND I'LL JUST POINT OUT THAT THE, THE PROCLAMATION WE JUST READ, WE JUST READ, IT WOULD BE VERY HYPOCRITICAL OF ME IN THIS COUNCIL, UH, IF WE DIDN'T TRY TO DO SOMETHING.
SO I'M, I'M JUST GONNA ASK IF WE AS A CITY, I THINK WE ESTABLISH OUR OWN BUILDING CODE, CORRECT? I MEAN, WHEN WE, WHEN WE, WHEN SOMEONE COMES TO US AND WANTS TO BUILD SOMETHING, WE HAVE CODES, WE HAVE ORDINANCES THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO FOLLOW WHEN THEY BUILD NEW CONSTRUCTION HERE.
I MEAN, IF WE CAN TELL SOMEBODY HOW MANY ARE DIVIDES, THEY GOTTA PLANT OUTSIDE OF A BUILDING TO MAKE IT LOOK NICE, WHY CAN'T WE TELL THEM THEY NEED TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF A, OF A TABLE INSIDE THEIR FACILITY? SO CAN WE ESTABLISH THROUGH OUR OWN ORDINANCES AND CODES PRIOR TO THE STATE OR ANY NATIONAL LAWS OR WHATEVER TO, FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION? SO I'LL, I'LL POSE THAT QUESTION.
AND ON THE, ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, I KNOW I CAN SEE THE RETROFITS, LIKE I'M TRYING TO IMAGINE THE PLACES THAT I, WHERE I GO, PLACES I VISIT HERE IN THE CITY AND WHAT THOSE RESTROOMS LOOK LIKE.
SO I CAN SEE WHERE A RETROFIT AND A LOT OF THOSE PLACES WOULD BE TOUGH CUZ IT'S JUST A MATTER OF SIZE.
WHERE, WHERE WOULD THEY GO? WHAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IN THERE? BUT I THINK THERE'S ALSO SOME PLACES WHERE RETROFIT COULD HAPPEN.
AND I THINK THAT'S JUST LEFT UP TO, TO THE COUNCIL AND OUR RESIDENTS, UM, AND REACH OUT TO OUR, TO OUR CHAMBER AND BUSINESSES WHO HAVE THAT, THE ABILITY TO DO THAT, TO START THINKING ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN DO TO RETROFIT.
AND THEY MIGHT NOT ALL WANT TO, THEY MIGHT NOT ALL WANNA SPEND THE MONEY.
THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO IF THE BUSINESS IS ALREADY ESTABLISHED.
BUT I THINK TWO THINGS, WE CERTAINLY CAN TALK ABOUT IT, WE CAN EDUCATE PEOPLE ABOUT IT, WE CAN MAKE IT A PRIORITY.
AND THEN NUMBER TWO, FOR ANY TYPE OF NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT WE HAVE MOVING FORWARD, WHAT CAN WE DO AND OUR OWN ORDINANCES AND CODE TO MAKE SURE THAT A BUILDING DOESN'T GET BUILT MOVING FORWARD THAT DOESN'T OFFER, UH, A CHANGING TABLE FOR A FAMILY.
UH, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
UM, THANK YOU MS. VERY THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UH, WE HAVE BEEN HAVING SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THE CHANGING TABLES, UH, THE POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING THEM IN THE ROWS.
UH, WE ARE EARLIER IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS, BUT THE DISCUSSIONS ARE GOING ON, WHICH IS A REALLY GOOD THING.
UM, YOU SAID THAT, UH, YOU HAD RECEIVED AN APPROVAL FOR USING SOME ARPA FUNDS.
HAVE YOU DESIGNATED AREAS WHERE THOSE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE USED TO ESTABLISH CHANGING TABLES? THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
SO WHEN I FIRST CAME ONTO THE BOARD, ONE OF, ONE OF MY JOBS WAS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WERE GOING TO SPEND THOSE.
SO I'VE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THEY'RE ACROSS MONTGOMERY COUNTY, I'VE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITIES, I'VE REACHED OUT, I DID REACH OUT TO THE ROSE, I NEVER GOT A CALL BACK.
UM, I HAVE REACHED OUT TO BOWLING ALLEYS, UM, YOU KNOW, LIBRARIES, UM, BUSINESSES, UH, KROGERS, PREMIER HEALTH, UM, SHEETS.
I'VE REACHED OUT TO A LOT OF COMPANIES AND IT'S THE ONES THAT HAVE, HAVE HAD CONVERSATION WITH ME AND ALLOWED ME TO COME IN AND TALK WITH ME THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH.
SO AT THIS TIME, WE ARE WORKING WITH FIVE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, AND THE GOAL IS TO GET THEM MOVING AND SEE IF THAT'S TAKES THE FUNDS.
AND IF IT DOESN'T, THEN WE CAN DO MORE.
SO IT, IT IS THE, THE CHALLENGE WITH THIS IS IT'S A DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF MONEY DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF TABLE AND WHERE THE TABLE'S GOING AND WHAT OTHER TYPE OF WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE.
SO WE DECIDED TO START WITH OUR INITIAL FIVE.
ONCE WE GET THOSE DONE, IF WE HAVE MORE FUNDS, THEN WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY MOVE FORWARD.
BUT I DID, UM, I DID REACH OUT TO PLACES IN HUBER BECAUSE ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.
UM, THE BREW HOUSE THAT'S GOING IN, UH, I, THEY DID REACH BACK TO ME AND SAID, TALK TO US WHEN WE'RE ABOUT TO BUILD.
SO I HAVE, BUT I'M NOT HEARING ANYTHING BACK BECAUSE IT IS, IS IT'S TRULY, IT, IT IS TRULY NOT DIFFICULT AT ALL TO MAKE THE CHANGE.
IT NEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE, AND THEN IT'S THE COST OF THE TABLE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A LARGE BUILDING, THAT'S REALLY NOT A LARGE COST.
YOU THINK IT WOULD BE PART OF THE ADA LAWS? YOU WOULD THINK? YEAH.
I DON'T EVEN HAVE THE ENERGY RIGHT NOW TO WORK WITH ADA, BUT
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UM, AND ADA IS FEDERAL AND LOOKING AT WORKING WITH, WITH THE STATE AND THE LOCAL IS REALLY OUR BEST OPTION BECAUSE TRULY THIS WHOLE, THE CODE HAS BEEN JUST AMAZING TO US.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT, I CAN'T BELIEVE THE DIFFERENCE THAT THAT IS MADE EVEN WITH THE LEGISLATION.
AND THE FIRST QUESTION I ASKED WAS, WELL, WHY WOULD I DO CODE INSTEAD OF LEGISLATION? AND THEY SAID, WELL, LEGISLATION WHO, WHO, WHO'S GONNA WATCH OVER THAT? THAT'S GONNA TAKE YOU GOING TO A PLACE? THERE'S NOT A TABLE.
AND NOW YOU HAVE THE BURDEN OF TAKING THAT FORWARD AND MAKING THAT CHANGE.
BUT IN BUILDING CODE, YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CODE AND YOU HAVE TO PASS INSPECTION.
SO THAT'S WHY THE CODE MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE.
AND I HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL WASN'T INCREDIBLE.
WE SPENT A YEAR AND A HALF, I GOT TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE THAT WROTE THE SPECS.
SO WHAT'S THE TABLE NEED TO LOOK LIKE? YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE MEASUREMENTS? WHAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE ROOM? AND, AND YOU KNOW, I GAVE THAT TO YOU BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I USE EVERY TIME I TALK TO ANYBODY.
YOU, YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT DOES IT TAKE? THIS IS WHAT IT TAKES, THIS IS WHAT THE REQUIREMENT WILL BE, AND YOU PUT IT IN.
NOW YOU'RE AHEAD OF THE REQUIREMENT.
AND WE SPEND A YEAR AND A HALF DOING DEEP RESEARCH TRYING SO THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH SPECS THAT WOULD MEET THE NEEDS OF, OF A DIVERSE GROUP.
BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I'M PRETTY MUCH AN EXPERT WITH MATTHEW, AND I HAVE FOUND I AM, THERE'S EVEN MORE THAN I WOULD'VE EVER IMAGINED.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UH, SITUATIONS THAT HAPPEN.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE WALKING WHO NEED THESE TABLES.
I MEAN, AND THE HEIGHT ADJUSTABLE IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE LOW FOR THE TRANSFER, AND IT HAS TO BE HIGHER FOR THE CHANGING.
AND THEN THERE'S INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED TO GET ON THE TABLE THEMSELVES.
AND SO A LOT OF PLACES ARE PUTTING IN THE KIND THAT LOOKS LIKE A, LIKE A BABY CHANGING TABLE, BUT IT'S LARGER AND IT FOLDS OFF THE WALL.
BUT THAT'S STILL NOT, IF IT'S TOO HIGH, THEY CAN'T GET UP ON THE TABLE.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T BE LIFTED.
SO IN REALITY, A LIFT WOULD BE VERY, VERY USEFUL AS WELL, BECAUSE I DO WORK WITH A LOT OF SELF-ADVOCATES WITHIN MY, WITHIN MY JOB THAT SAY WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE, WE DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY TO LIFT US.
BUT IF I HAD TO LIFT HIM OFF OF THE GROUND, I COULDN'T DO IT.
I CHANGED HIM IN MY VAN FOR MANY, MANY YEARS WHILE IT'S SNOWING OUTSIDE OR RAINING, OR 10 DEGREES OR 90 DEGREES.
THAT'S HOW I DID IT FOR MANY YEARS.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE DECIDED WE'RE JUST NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT.
UM, SO IT'S, IT, I'M A VERY CREATIVE PERSON AND, AND WHEN I SAY THAT I WANT YOU TO HELP ME WITH THIS, THAT I TRULY MEAN THAT AND MY CO-LEAD, KIM AND I, THE TWO OF US, WE GO LIKE GANG BUSTERS.
I MEAN, THERE'S, WE WE'RE ON IT AND, AND WE MOVE.
SO IT'S NOT THAT I'M SAYING, HERE YOU GO TAKE CARE OF THIS.
I REALLY WANNA WORK WITH YOU ON THIS.
I I WANT PEOPLE TO BE EDUCATED.
I WANT PEOPLE WHO COME TO YOU AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD IN YOUR CITY.
I WANT YOU TO SAY TO THEM, THINK ABOUT THIS.
I KNOW YOU CAN'T MANDATE IT, AND MAYBE YOU CAN, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING BRIAN AND WALL DIRECTOR IS WHAT DO, YOU CAN MANDATE IT.
WE'LL GO FOR THAT
AND I'VE HAD ARCHITECTS SAY, OKAY, WE CAN BRING THIS, WE CAN BRING THIS FORWARD.
SO I'M JUST TRULY LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS HERE.
AND I I AM LOOKING TO PARTNER WITHIN THOSE SOLUTIONS.
I, I WORK PART-TIME FOR THE COUNTY BOARD, AND THEN I WORK THREE QUARTERS OF MY TIME FOR, FOR CHANGING SPACES, AS IN NOW OUR, OUR NONPROFIT, MATT, THIS IS MATTHEW'S JOB AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, I WANT MATTHEW TO WORK IN HIS COMMUNITY AND HAVE A ROLE.
RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S, THIS IS WHAT WE DO.
WE A WE EDUCATE AND WE ADVOCATE SO THAT WE CAN BRING ON CHANGE.
I'M VERY PROUD OF THIS, THIS CITY.
OBVIOUSLY I'VE STAYED HERE FOR 15 ONE YEARS AND I DON'T SEE ME GOING ANYWHERE.
AND SO I'M ASKING FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP, AND I'M ASKING THAT OF THE CITIZENS AS WELL.
I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
IS THERE A QUICK ANSWER TO THAT, JUST REAL QUICK REGARDING KIND OF, UH, WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE MEANTIME? SURE.
WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE LAW DIRECTOR TO DETERMINE WHAT OUR BEST AVENUE IS TO TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THESE UNIVERSAL TABLES ARE SOMETHING THAT'S CONSIDERED IN, UH, IN ALL NEW
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CONSTRUCTION GOING FORWARD.UH, WE AS THE CITY, UH, ARE LOOKING TO INTEGRATE, UH, THESE UNIVERSAL TABLES AND SOME OF 'EM OUR UPCOMING CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS SUCH AS OUR CIVIC CENTER, UH, THAT, UH, THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.
AND, UH, THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO RETROFIT.
SO RIGHT NOW WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME STAFF GOING TO, UH, OUR FACILITIES AND LOOKING WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, THESE FACILITIES.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE, UH, UH, SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING THOSE ALONG THE WAY WITH SOME OF OUR EXISTING, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
IT'D BE NICE TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE ON THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT, SO THANK YOU.
OKAY, NEXT UP WE HAVE, UH, JEFF MORFORD, IF YOU PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.
UH, BETHEL TOWNSHIP, MIAMI COUNTY.
THINGS WILL BE A LITTLE SCATTER TONIGHT.
I'M NOT WELL PREPARED, BUT I'LL, IT'S ALL FOCUSING ON THE SAME THING.
I'D LIKE TO PASS ALONG THREE OR FOUR STORIES, SCENARIOS, AND MAYBE EVEN WHAT IFS, JUST A COUPLE THINGS IN THE PAPER.
NOT TOTALLY, UH, FOCUSED ON THIS, BUT FORMER OHIO HOUSE SPEAKER LARRY HOUSEHOLDER, OBVIOUSLY HE HAS A PROBLEM WITH THE, UH, TIED TO A BAILOUT AND CO-DEFENDANT KIND OF THING.
UH, STORY TWO APARTMENTS BY THE ROSE DO NOT BUILD ANY APARTMENTS LONG EXECUTIVE PAR BOULEVARD.
I REPEAT, DO NOT BUILD ANY APARTMENTS LONG EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD.
I'M SURE YOU HAVE HIRED FANCY TRAFFIC STUDY GROUP THAT CHARGES YOU THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, GIVES YOU THEIR RESULTS.
THEY USUALLY GIVE YOU THE RESULTS YOU, THEY THINK YOU WANT TO HEAR.
THE INCREASED TRAFFIC WILL ONLY HAVE MINIMAL EFFECT MAYBE AT 15 OR 20 SECONDS TO YOUR COMMUTE.
I WILL GIVE YOU MY FREE TRAFFIC STUDY, UH, ON THOSE TWO PARCELS ON EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD, APPROXIMATELY 850 NEW APARTMENTS BY MY ESTIMATES.
IF 25% WILL BE SINGLE OCCUPANT, 50%, TWO PERSON, 25%, THREE PERSON, THAT EQUALS APPROXIMATELY 1700 PEOPLE AND CARS TIMES AN AVERAGE OUTING OF FOUR A DAY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES YOU GUYS LEAVE YOUR HOUSE, BUT I KNOW I LEAVE MY HOUSE FOUR TIMES THAT'S COMING AND GOING.
THIS CODE EQUAL ANOTHER 13,000 CARS ON EXECUTIVE BOULEVARD DAILY WITH ONLY TWO EXITS, ONE ONTO BRANT PIKE AND THE OTHER ON DETROIT.
BY THE WAY, BOTH OF THESE INTERSECTIONS ARE ALREADY STRESSED WITH A HIGH VOLUME OF CARS, LET ALONE THE HEAVY TR TRUCK TRAFFIC.
NOW TO THE SUBJECT OF THE 250 PLUS ACRES IN MIAMI BETHEL TOWNSHIP, THIS LAND COULD END UP WITH ANOTHER 750 HOUSES TIMES THREE PEOPLE PER HOUSEHOLD.
2,500 HUNDRED RESIDENTS WITH THREE CARS PER HOUSEHOLD, 2,500 CARS TIMES FOUR OUTINGS, LEAVING AND RETURNING THAT COULD EQUAL 18,000 CARS ON THOSE ROADS DAILY, NOT DESIGNED FOR THAT TRAFFIC, LET ALONE THE UNWELCOME TRAFFIC ON BETHEL TOWNSHIP ROADS, LET ALONE THE ANNEXATION SITUATION, INCLUDING THE CONTINUED BURDEN ON BETHEL SCHOOLS.
IF I HAD A, IF I OWNED 400 ACRES ALONG EXECUTIVE BOULEVARDS, THE PROPOSED BILL OF DRAG RACING VENUE, ALSO A COMPLEX WITH A, UH, GAMBLING AREA TO BET ON THE DRAG RACES ALONG WITH BETTING AND A AND OTHER ON SPORTING EVENTS, ALONG WITH SLOT MACHINES, ALONG WITH A PACKAGED LIQUOR STORE ALONG WITH A MARIJUANA DISPENSARY.
AND YOU'LL, YES, DON'T FORGET THE DISPENSER, THE, UH, GENTLEMAN'S CLUB.
ALL THESE BUSINESSES ARE LEGAL IN OHIO, BUT YOU HAVE A CHOICE TO TAKE, HAVE ME OR NOT ALLOW ME TO HAVE MY BUSINESSES THERE.
YOU CAN SAY IT'S NOT IN OUR ZONING, IT'S NOT IN OUR, UH, PROCESS.
AND THAT TO ME IS JUST LIKE THE ANNEXATION.
JUST BECAUSE IT'S LEGAL DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT.
IN THE 19 EARLY 1980S WHEN THIS WAS WAYNE TOWNSHIP LEADERS WERE GREETED WITH THE UNWANTED ADVANCES FROM THE CITY OF DAYTON.
IF YOU COULD ASK THE THEN WAYNE TOWNSHIP LEADERS THEIR OPINION OF ANNEXATION, I WOULD ASSUME THEY WERE THEN AND NOW WOULD BE FIRMLY AGAINST ANYTHING REMOTELY CLOSE TO THE SUB SUBJECT OF
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ANNEXATION.IF THINGS HAD TURNED OUT DIFFERENTLY TONIGHT, I WOULD BE ATTENDING THE DAYTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING EXPRESSING MY OBJECTION TO THE ANNEXATION AND DEVELOPMENT OF MIAMI COUNTY LAND.
AND I WOULD ASK, BE ASKING THEM IF I CAN PUT UP MY DRAG RACING VENUE AND ALL THINGS GO WITH THAT, WHICH YOU, YOU CAN CONTROL.
OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS, DAYTON WOULD'VE BEEN DECIDING WHAT IS RIGHT FOR YOUR RESIDENCE DECISION.
I'M SURE YOU BELIEVE WERE BETTER MADE BY THIS COUNCIL, SUCH AS I HAVE SEEN RELATES TO YOUR VOTES IN PROBLEM ALCOHOL ESTABLISHMENTS, GAMBLING FACILITIES, GENTLEMAN'S CLUBS, MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES, AND OTHER BUSINESS THAT YOU DEEM UNWELCOME IN HUBER HEIGHTS.
IF THE VOTE WERE IN THE DAYTON CITY COUNCIL, THE COMPLEXION OF HUBER HEIGHTS COULD BE MUCH DIFFERENT.
YOU HAVE YOUR VALUES THERE SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED AND RESPECTED AS OUR VALUES SHOULD BE RE RESPECTED IN BETHEL TOWNSHIP.
SO AGAIN, WHEN THE SUBJECT OF ANNEXATION, CROSS YOUR DESK, LOOK TO THOSE PROCEEDINGS FROM 40 YEARS AGO AND VOTE NO.
I'VE GOT A FEW MORE, BUT I'M SURE YOU GET MY THE IDEA HERE.
YES, PLEASE ALLOW US TO CONTROL OUR FUTURE AS YOU'RE CONTROLLING YOUR FUTURE.
THERE'S NO REASON, THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM TO GROW IN A LOT OF OTHER DIRECTIONS IN YOUR COUNTY, IN YOUR CITY.
AND AS ALWAYS, A UH, GOLDEN RULE, DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU.
I HAVE LIVED HERE, UH, TERRY LUCER, RESIDENT OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
I WAS HERE DURING THE REAL ESTATE CRASH.
I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT DID TO THIS CITY.
I SAW THE COUNTY HAVE TO PROP UP WARD FIVE, UH, TO HELP WITH HOME VALUES.
DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CITY HAS BEEN WELCOMED BY ME.
I'VE SEEN WHAT IT HAS DONE FOR THIS CITY.
BUT WE HAVE RECEIVED INFORMATION OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS THAT IS CONCERNING TO ME.
IT'S HEALTH AND SAFETY INFORMATION.
WE HAVE A WATER DISTRIBUTION INTEGRITY STUDY THAT SAYS OUR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF HELP.
IT SHOULD HAVE STARTED YEARS AGO.
YOU DID NOT KNOW WHAT YOU DID NOT KNOW, BUT NOW YOU KNOW, AND NOW YOU'RE HERE AND YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.
I PROMISE YOU, IF YOU HAVE A MAJOR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE COLLAPSE IN WARD FOUR, THERE WILL NEVER BE A HEADLINE THAT SAYS INFRASTRUCTURE COLLAPSE IN ANITA KITCHENS WARD.
IT'S GONNA SAY IN HUBER HEIGHTS, THIS AFFECTS ALL OF US.
THE FIRE CHIEF SAID THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE FINDING NEW FIREFIGHTERS.
MR. CHIN KOWSKI VERIFIED THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ONGOING ISSUE.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN'T PL A FIREFIGHTER OFF THE FIREFIGHTER TREE AND PUT HIM DOWN.
WE ARE GOING TO SEE THIS PROBLEM FOR A LONG TIME COMING OR A LONG TIME IN THE FUTURE.
UH, WE HAVE TRAFFIC SAFETY ISSUES.
YOU CAN SAY IT IS ONE INTERSECTION, IT'S AN INCONVENIENCE, BUT I'M TELLING YOU, IF YOU HAVE A EMERGENCY RESPONDER WHO CANNOT GET THROUGH THAT GRIDLOCK, THIS AFFECTS THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
WE WILL ALL BE AFFECTED BY THAT.
AND WE HEARD FROM WASTEWATER TREATMENT, YOU DO NOT GET PUT ON THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT ON THE EPA WATCH LIST IF THINGS ARE GOING WELL.
SO WE HAVE, THESE ARE ALL HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES.
BOILING WATER IS INCONVENIENT, BUT HAVING TO BOIL WATER IN ORDER TO USE IT, THAT'S A HEALTH ISSUE.
WE HAVE SERIOUS HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES.
I AM ASKING YOU TO PLEASE PUT A PAUSE ON DEVELOPMENT.
I'M NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT, BUT YOU HAVE TO GET ON TOP OF THESE HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES.
YOU HAVE TO PUT THESE AS YOUR MAIN PRIORITY.
IT'S, IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT YOU DO THIS AS COUNCIL.
YOU HAVE 43,000 RESIDENTS IN THE CITY.
THERE'S WHAT, 7 BILLION PEOPLE
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ON THE EARTH? THERE ARE ONLY NINE PEOPLE WHO CAN TAKE CARE OF THIS.AND YOU'RE ALL SITTING OVER THERE, WE CAN'T DO THIS.
I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE PAUSE, PAUSE DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE PLENTY OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ALREADY APPROVED ALREADY IN THE PIPELINE.
WE'RE ALREADY ON THE HOOK FOR, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, STOP THE ENERGY IN THIS CITY.
UM, WHAT WHAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL AS A CITIZEN IS TO SEE THIS COUNCIL TAKE THESE FOUR METRICS, WASTEWATER TREATMENT, UM, WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, TRAFFIC AND UH, FIRE AND POLICE STAFFING, CREATE YOURSELF'S GOALS.
I NEED TO SEE THIS MANY NEW FIREFIGHTERS, THIS MUCH REDUCED WATER MAIN BREAKS, WHATEVER, CREATE THESE GOALS.
DID YOU MEET THOSE GOALS FOR THOSE FOUR METRICS THIS QUARTER? IF SO, LIMIT HOW MANY, HOW MUCH DEVELOPMENT YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE FOR THE NEXT QUARTER.
YOU'VE DONE THIS STUFF ALL YOUR LIFE.
YOU CAN HAVE YOUR DESSERT, DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
TAKE THAT CONCEPT AND APPLY IT TO WHERE YOU ARE NOW WITH THIS CITY.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE INFORMATION NOW, LIKE I SAID, YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW, BUT NOW WE HAVE THIS INFORMATION.
TAKE THAT AND APPLY IT TO THE CITY.
WE AS CITIZENS CAN, YOU KNOW, CHEER YOU ON.
WE'RE TAKING CARE OF, WE HAVE A NEW FIREFIGHTER.
UM, AND WE CAN ALSO BE CONFIDENT IN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU ARE APPROVING BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF THESE THINGS.
UM, YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S, THAT'S THE GIST OF WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.
I HOPE, UH, I HOPE YOU TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY.
I HONESTLY WAS SHOCKED BY SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT I HEARD, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT YOU WERE ALL SHOCKED BY SOME OF THIS, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT.
I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT, BUT THE EPA HAS GIVEN THEM A CHECKLIST OF WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE.
AND YOU CAN MATCH THOSE GOALS.
IF YOU TAKE MY ADVICE OR MY SUGGESTION, YOU CAN MATCH THOSE GOALS TO WHAT THE EPA IS DOING AND SEE THAT THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
ALL OF THESE IS ISSUES WERE EXACERBATED BY DEVELOPMENT.
I HATE TO SEE THAT BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I SAW THIS CITY WHEN IT WAS ON ITS KNEES.
IT WAS IN DIRE STRAITS DURING THE REAL ESTATE CRASH.
AND I'M HAPPY TO SEE IT COMING BACK.
BUT NOW WE HAVE NEW INFORMATION AND WE HAVE TO START LOOKING AT THIS FROM A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW.
EVERYBODY UP THERE GETS A WIN.
IF YOU DO THIS, YOU ALL GET TO SHARE IN A WIN.
THAT'S A VERY UNUSUAL THING FOR THIS COUNCIL.
JULIE RES FROM BETHEL TOWNSHIP, MIAMI COUNTY.
I REALIZE THERE'S NO VOTE ON THE BETHEL TOWNSHIP ANNEXATION TONIGHT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY A FEW WORDS IN CASE I CAN'T MAKE IT TO THE MEETING WHERE YOU DO VOTE.
IN FULL DISCLOSURE, ONCE AGAIN, I AM A TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE.
WHILE, WHILE ALL OF THE TOWN, ALL OF THE TRUSTEES STAND FIRMLY AGAINST ANNEXATION.
I'M NOT HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE TRUSTEES, BUT INSTEAD AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, I'M HOPING YOU WILL DECLINE ANNEXING, ANNEXING ANOTHER 260 PLUS ACRES OF OUR LAND GIVING THE FOLLOWING ARGUMENTS.
ONE DEFINITION OF TYRANNY IS CRUEL, UNREASONABLE, OR ARBITRARY USE OF POWER OR CONTROL.
THIS IS A CASE WHERE SHEER HEIGHTS DOES HAVE ALL OF THE POWER TO US, THE RESIDENTS OF BETHEL TOWNSHIP.
THIS IS A CRUEL USE OF POWER BECAUSE AS A RESULT OF YOUR LOAN DECISION, WE ARE LOSING OUR FARMLAND, OUR SMALL SCHOOL, OUR PEACEFUL ENVIRONMENT, OUR COUNTRY WAY OF LIFE.
AND WITH IT, OUR OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE, IT IS AN UNREASONABLE USE OF POWER BECAUSE WE HAVE NO SAY AT ALL IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR LAND AND MUST ABIDE BY YOUR DECISION.
IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT IN AMERICA, A REPUBLIC BASED ON DEMOCRACY AND FAIR REPRESENTATION, THAT THIS
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IS ALLOWED.IT'S ALSO HARD TO BELIEVE THAT A MUNICIPALITY WHO USED TO BE IN THE EXACT SAME SITUATION OF BEING ANNEXED WITHOUT CHOICE WOULD TURN AROUND AND FORCE ANNEXATION AND HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT UPON THEIR NEIGHBORS.
YOU WILL PROBABLY REMEMBER THE PHRASE, NO TAXES WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, WHICH CAME ABOUT BECAUSE THE SETTLERS OF AMERICA WERE BEING FORCED TO, FORCED BY BRITAIN TO PAY A TAX WITHOUT HAVING A SAY IN THE ACTIONS OF THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT.
I SAY, SAY NO, ANNEX, NO ANNEXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION IS THE SAME.
WE ARE PAYING A HEAVY PRICE WITHOUT HAVING A SAY IN THE ACTIONS OF THE HUBER HEIGHTS GOVERNMENT.
THE LAST PART OF TYRANNY ADDRESSES THE ARBITRARY USE OF POWER.
I REALIZE THAT IT IS A GOOD DEAL FOR YOU FINANCIALLY.
HUBER HEIGHTS REAPS A LOT OF THE BENEFITS OF ANNEXATION AND THE TOWNSHIP SHOULDERS.
THE BURDEN OF FUNDING NEW SCHOOL, CLASSROOM SPACE, OVERCROWDING OF ROADS, AND A SHIFT IN THE COUNTRY CULTURE THAT WE ENJOY.
JUST AS YOU EXPECT NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, I ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT NO ANNEXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION AND DO NOT USE THIS POWER TO FURTHER ANNEX BETHEL TOWNSHIP.
AND PLEASE DON'T ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS IS A, THIS IS THE PHRASE WE USE A LOT, OBVIOUSLY, JUST BECAUSE IT IS LEGAL DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT.
LET THE CITIZENS OF BETHEL DECIDE FOR OURSELVES HOW TO DEVELOP OUR LAND AND LET US KEEP OUR WAY OF LIFE.
NEXT UP WE HAVE BETH VAN HERRON.
UM, I AM A BETHEL TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE AND I DO LIVE IN BETHEL TOWNSHIP.
I'VE TALKED TO YOU GUYS MANY TIMES.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE VOTING ON IT, BUT IT CAME JUST IN CASE.
BESIDES, CAN'T GO OUTSIDE CUZ IT'S SO WINDY.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY BEFORE ME ADDED TO WHAT I REALLY WANNA SAY.
UM, WE ARE NEIGHBORS WITH YOU WHETHER WE LOVE EACH OTHER OR HATE EACH OTHER.
WE'RE STILL GONNA BE NEIGHBORS.
AND UM, I THINK THE FIRST PERSON WHO GOT, WHO SPOKE, WHO STOOD UP AND SPOKE WHEN YOU GAVE THAT, UM, UM, MR. GORE WHEN YOU GAVE THE COMMENDATION, SPOKE AT HOW NEIGHBORLY AND FRIENDLY AND WELCOMING HUBER IS.
AND, UM, AND YOU ARE, AND WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT RELATIONSHIP AND MAYBE NOT SO NEIGHBORLY THAT YOU ANNEX 260 ACRES OF OUR PROPERTY, UM, OR LAND THAT'S IN BETHEL TOWNSHIP.
AND I REALIZE THAT GROWTH IS IMPORTANT FOR, FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.
MOST TOWNSHIPS DON'T WANNA GROW FOR WHATEVER REASON.
UM, BUT WE WOULD LIKE NOT TO GROW AND I KNOW YOU WANT TO GROW AND UM, WE JUST WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU GROW NORTH OR NOT NORTH, SOUTH, EAST OR WEST, BUT DEFINITELY NOT NORTH.
SO, UM, AND THEN THE WOMAN WHO SPOKE, UM, YOU DID A FANTASTIC JOB.
YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT AND WE'VE HEARD ABOUT YOUR WATER ISSUES AND SHE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
IT'S NOT WARD FOUR THAT'S GONNA HAVE THE WATER.
AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON WITH EAST PALESTINE AND MICHIGAN AND ALL THEIR WATER ISSUES.
IT'D BE GREAT FOR US IF YOU WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE WATER ISSUE AND THEN DO THAT ANNEXATION IN LIKE 30 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD OR 40.
SO ANYWAY, JUST WANTED TO SAY, ADD MY 2 CENTS FOR PLEASE VOTE NO WHEN YOU DO VOTE, WHICH WILL MAYBE BE IN TWO WEEKS OR SOMETHING.
AND LAST UP WE HAVE JANELLE SMITH, IF YOU PLEASE COME BY.
MY NAME IS JANELLE SMITH AND I'VE LIVED IN HUBER HEIGHTS FOR 26 YEARS AFTER MY HUSBAND PCSD HERE AND WE DECIDED TO, WE CHOSE HUBER HEIGHTS TO BE OUR RETIREMENT HOME.
KIND OF REGRET THAT A LITTLE BIT RIGHT NOW.
SO I CAME TONIGHT BECAUSE, UM, I'M HOPING AS THE PASTOR SAID THAT YOU HEAR OUR, OUR CRIES AND OUR HEART, OUR OUR HEAVY BURDENS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS OUR HEAVY BURDENS.
CUZ I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS ARE LISTENING.
WE WANNA LEAD, LIKE HE SAID, A QUIET AND PEACEFUL LIFE.
WE DO, WE JUST WANNA LEAVE A QUIET AND PEACEFUL LIFE.
BUT WHEN WE AS A COMMUNITY, SEE YOU GUYS UP HERE BEHAVING THE WAY YOU DO, YOU CAN'T, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE ENOUGH COMPASSION TO SHOW YOUR FELLOW COLLEAGUE A SIMPLE EXCUSE BURNING ABSENCE THAT SPILLS OVER INTO THE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO REALIZE THAT.
YOU KNOW, LET US ALL LIVE A PEACEFUL, QUIET LIFE.
WE HAVE CRUMBLING INFRASTRUCTURE.
PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS FOR THAT TOO.
DO YOU THINK THAT THEY CAN LEAD A QUIET AND PEACEFUL LIFE HAVING 15 WATER MAIN BREAKS IN FRONT OF THE HOME? WE HAVE STAFF, WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT TELL US WE HAVE ON RECORD THREE DIFFERENT STORIES.
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WITH PEOPLE? THREE DIFFERENT STORIES.PIPE'S BEEN ORDERED, PIPE'S NOT BEEN ORDERED.
YOU'RE GONNA GET GLOVE, A PLASTIC GLOVE ON YOUR PIPES.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S GONNA FLY WITH ANYBODY UP NORTH? DO YOU THINK IT'S GONNA HAPPEN? YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
THIS 80 PAGE REPORT CAME IN FIVE MONTHS AGO.
YOU'RE JUST NOW ADDRESSING IT.
I VOTED NO FOR THE, FOR THE WATER PRESSURE AND THE WATER SOFTENER.
IT WASN'T JUST BECAUSE OF TWO PEOPLE.
I SPOKE TO YOU GUYS, I TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AND HERE WE ARE TODAY.
WE DID KNOW YOU GUYS, PLEASE STOP TELLING THE RESIDENTS WE DIDN'T KNOW THERE WEREN'T GONNA BE ANY WATER MAIN BREAKS.
PLEASE BE HONEST WITH THE PEOPLE.
I'M DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE I LOOK IN HINDSIGHT AND I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT, I WAS FOR THIS INITIATIVE AT THE BEGINNING, BUT I DIDN'T THINK TO HAVE A CARE PLAN WHEN THEY WERE TELLING US THAT WE WERE GONNA BE BLOWING UP.
THERE'S WATER MAIN BREAKS IN WARD TWO RIGHT NOW, ALL THE WAY UP IN THE NORTH AREA.
WE HAVE WATER MAIN BREAKS, NOT JUST THE SOUTH.
AND NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR WASTE PIPES ARE CRUMBLING.
DO YOU REALIZE WHAT THAT'S GONNA DO WHEN IT SEEPS INTO THE SOIL AND WE HAVE CORROSIVE SOIL, IT GOES INTO OUR HOW MANY, HOW MANY WATER MAIN BREAKS DO WE HAVE OVER AND OVER? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE TESTED POSITIVE FOR A SERIA BACTERIA AND THE WATER DURING ONE OF THESE WATER MAIN BREAKS? THAT'S THAT'S REALLY BAD.
THAT SHOULD NEVER EVER BE IN YOUR WATER.
AND THEN I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE $600,000 GAS OVER $600,000 IN GAS TAX THAT'S GOING UP NORTH FOR INFRASTRUCTURE WHILE WE LEAVE THE CRUMBLING INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE, IN THE MORE POVERTY STRICKEN AREAS TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES WITH A GLOVE OVER A PIPE.
I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR SAFETY SERVICES AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I CAME HERE TO TALK ABOUT.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? OUR FIRE EMPLOYEES, THEY'RE NOT GONNA COME HERE IN UNIFORM.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA COME HERE AND RISK THEIR LIVES AND THEIR JOBS TO TELL YOU THAT YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING THEM AND EVERYBODY ELSE AT RISK.
BUT I WILL DO THAT BECAUSE AS THE DAUGHTER OF A FIREMAN, I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS.
YOU'RE GONNA ANNEX ANOTHER 260 ACRES AND YOU'RE GONNA EXPECT OUR FIRE AND POLICE TO COVER THAT ADDITIONAL ACREAGE.
I REMEMBER IN 2017 WE COULDN'T, WE COULDN'T ACCEPT A GRANT FOR THREE FIREFIGHTERS BECAUSE WE COULDN'T AFFORD IT.
YOU GUYS, WHERE DO YOU THINK THIS MONEY'S GONNA COME FROM? WHAT COVID YEAH, SO I JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT SAFETY SERVICES REAL QUICK HERE BECAUSE I'VE NOTICED THAT WE HAVE BEEN, UM, COMPARED TO KETTERING.
UH, LET'S, LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT THIS REAL QUICK.
EIGHT KETTERING HAS 18.4, 18.4 SQUARE MILES.
HUBER HEIGHTS HAS 21.8 SQUARE MILES ELSE.
KETTERING HAS 82 SWORN POLICE OFFICERS.
HUBER HEIGHTS HAS 53 SWORN POLICE OFFICERS.
KETTERING HAS 51 FIREFIGHTERS, EMTS, MEDICS.
KETTERING HAS 107 VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANNA LEAD THE DIAS TOO? I MEAN, THIS IS VERY RUDE.
SO, UM, SO I I JUST THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GUYS WANT US TO ALL LEAD A PEACEFUL, QUIET LIFE, I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO MAYBE START LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS ANSWER OUR PHONE CALLS, ANSWER OUR EMAILS, STOP BUILDING MORE AND MORE AND MORE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE HERE, THEY MATTER.
OUR FIREFIGHTERS, OUR SAFETY SERVICES, THEY DESERVE BETTER, THEIR FAMILIES DESERVE BETTER, AND THEY'RE FRANKLY TIRED OF WORKING ALL THIS OVERTIME HOURS.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I'M HERE TO SAY.
I HOPE YOU VOTE NO ON THE ANNEXATION.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I I THINK THE RESIDENTS ARE PREPARED FOR A REFERENDUM.
IF YOU GUYS CHOOSE TO GO AHEAD, IF YOU CHOOSE TO BREAK THE THAI VOTE AND VOTE FOR IT, WE'RE PREPARED FOR A REFERENDUM IF THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND, AND, UM, I'LL COME AND GIVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT LATER.
THAT'S IT, MARILYN, ALMOST, UH, TIM HART, 72 75 PLAYBACK DRIVE.
UM, LET'S SEE, 42 YEARS IT TOOK TO CHANGE OUR MIND.
WERE YOU IN THE FIRST COUNCIL BY CHANCE? NO.
BUT YOU'VE BEEN UP THERE 40 SOME YEARS.
UM, SO WHAT CHANGED FROM HUBER HEIGHTS? I MEAN, WHY ARE WE ANNEXING FARMLAND TO THE NORTH? MM-HMM.
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WHO OWNS PROPERTY UP THERE? ANYBODY? I MEAN, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME REASON WE'RE DOING IT.I DIDN'T SEE ANY SUPPORT FOR IT.
IS ANYBODY HERE SUPPORTING IT? YOU SHOULD DO WHAT THE PEOPLE, UH, OF COURSE, BUT YOU SHOULD DO WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT JUST CUZ YOU DON'T SEE ANY SUPPORT, UH, SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING.
PARDON ME? UM, DO I GET THE CHANCE TO SPEAK OR, CAUSE I HEARD YOU SEE LAST YOU'RE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON AN AGENDA ITEM, SO YOU'LL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK UNDER THAT ITEM.
AND NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS CITIZENS REGISTER TO SPEAK.
ENOGEN ITEMS, WHICH SPECIFIC ITEM, WHICH IS THIS GENTLEMAN TO SPEAK ON? ITEM 11 D.
ITEM 11 D OKAY, SO WHEN WE GET TO ITEM 11 D SIR, WE'LL YOU'LL COME TO THE PODIUM.
SHALL I TALK DOWN WHEN WE GET TO ITEM 11 D? YEP.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE NOTE THAT I DID SEND TWO EMAILS TO OUR CLERK OF COUNSEL TO BE ENTERED IN THE PUBLIC RECORD, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING ITEM 11 C UH, AND CITIZEN COMMENTS, UH, FOR TONIGHT, UH, INDIVIDUAL WAS NOT ABLE TO COME DUE TO HEALTH REASON, UH, WANTED, UH, ALL OF COUNSEL TO BE MADE, MADE AWARE OF HIS COMMENTS AND THE ITEM 11 C COMMENTS AS WELL.
WHEN DID YOU, WHEN DID YOU SEND THOSE? UH, I'M SORRY.
THAT WAS, UH, DUE TO AN INTERNET OUTAGE AT MY HOUSE.
UH, THAT WAS, IT WAS SHORTLY BEFORE THIS MEETING.
UH, YEAH, IT WASN'T LIKE AN HOUR AGO OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT TONY, WE, ONCE WE HAVE THOSE, WE JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE HAS COPIED.
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RIGHT, NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 10, CITY MANAGER REPORT.A COUPLE OF ITEMS FOR, UH, COUNSEL AND THE COMMUNITY, UH, UPDATE ON THE MARDI GRA WATER MAIN INSTALLATION PROJECT THAT BEGAN BACK ON FEBRUARY 21ST, UH, AND THE CONTRACTOR REPORTS, UH, BEING APPROXIMATELY 50% COMPLETE ON THAT PROJECT.
THE 2022 WATER MAIN INSULATION PROJECT IS SET TO BEGIN ON WEDNESDAY, UH, AND WILL, UH, INITIATE OVER ON HOLBROOK AND HELWIG.
THE CONTRACTOR, M N T EXCAVATING INTENDS TO MOVE IN TOMORROW AND WILL BE NOTIFYING RESIDENTS OF THEIR INTENT TO START ON WEDNESDAY.
UH, HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING TODAY WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM UH, L W C, JOHN FAUN, UH, THE ARCHITECT WHO HAS BEEN ASSISTING US WITH A PRELIMINARY DESIGN FOR THE CIVIC CENTER.
UH, WE ARE WORKING TO PUT TOGETHER A CONTRACT FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION ON MARCH 27TH THAT WOULD HAVE US BREAKING GROUND ON THIS PROJECT IN APRIL OF 2024.
UH, ALSO WANNA LET COUNCIL KNOW THAT, UH, WE DID CLOSE, UH, ON THE, UH, GROUND FOR THE NEW PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY THAT'S AT, UH, 5,001 TAYLORSVILLE.
AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, UH, WANNA LET FOLKS KNOW THAT UH, WE ARE HAVING COFFEE WITH A COP OVER AT STARBUCKS, UH, THIS, UH, UH, THIS TUESDAY, TOMORROW MORNING FROM SEVEN TO 10, UH, AT THE, UH, 77 20 LOCATION.
UH, OTHER THAN THAT, SIR, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR COUNSEL.
MAY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN.
YOUR BRIAN WITH THE, UM, MARDI GRAS, UM, WATER REPLACEMENT.
I'VE SEEM TO REMEMBER NOTING THAT THERE WAS AN, UH, A BOIL ADVISORY.
WAS THAT SOLELY DUE TO THE ACCIDENTAL CUTTING OF THE TEMPORARY SUPPLY LINE OR WAS THERE MORE TO IT? UH, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT, UH, THERE WAS AN UNMARKED, UH, LATERAL SERVICE LATERAL TO A HOME THAT GOT CLIPPED BY THE CONTRACTOR WHEN THEY WERE EXCAVATING, UH, TO ACCESS THE MAIN.
AND THAT WAS WHAT HAD CAUSED THAT BREAK IN THAT, UH, THAT BOIL ADVISORY.
ANYTHING ELSE, ANITA? SO YOU SAID THEY'RE 50% DONE.
I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THIS WAS GONNA TAKE LIKE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND WE ONLY STARTED THE 21ST, SO THEY'RE MOVING RIGHT ALONG, I GUESS GOOD WEATHER OR
THE ISSUE IS THE, THE NOTE THAT I HAVE FROM THE ENGINEERS, THAT THE ENGINEER THAT THE MAIN IS INSTALLED, WHETHER OR NOT THAT MAIN IS SERVICEABLE, THOSE HOMES ARE TAPPED IN, THAT BECOMES ADDITIONAL WORK.
BUT THE ENGINEERS REPORTING, THE ENGINEER'S OFFICE IS REPORTING THAT 50% OF THE MAIN IS INSTALLED.
ANYTHING MR. MR. SHAW? I DIDN'T RECEIVE THAT EMAIL YOU SAID YOU SENT CORRECT? I SAID I SENT IT TO THE CLERK OF COUNSEL.
OH, COURSE I NEED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE GETS THAT.
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OKAY, NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 11, PENDING BUSINESS ITEM 11 A ITEM 11 A AND ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING ADVANCES AND[01:05:01]
TRANSFERS BETWEEN VARIOUS FUNDS OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO, AND AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022 DASH O DASH 25 62 BY MAKING SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR EXPENSES OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO FOR THE PERIOD BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2023.AND ENDING DECEMBER, DECEMBER 31ST, 2023 AT THE SECOND READING.
THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AMENDS THE, UH, EXISTING BUDGET TO INCLUDE, UH, ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THE, UH, PURCHASE OF THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, UH, THE EDGE FUND, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, TEMPORARY STAFFING IN, UH, THE FINANCE DIVISION AND THE STREET SAFETY STUDY, UH, TO MAKE THE CITY ELIGIBLE FOR, UH, GRANTS THROUGH THE BETTER, UH, EXCUSE ME, BUILD, UH, IS IT THE, UH, BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE LEGISLATION, UH, OUT OF, UH, OUT OF CONGRESS.
UH, WE WOULD ASK THAT, UH, COUNCIL ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION THIS EVENING, AND THIS IS AT THE SECOND READING AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT.
IS THERE A MOTION NANCY? MOVE TO ADOPT.
IS THERE A SECOND, DON? I'LL SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION? JODY? MR. CAMPBELL? YES.
MR. OTTO? I WE'RE AT, UH, YEP.
MOTION FAILS FOUR TO THREE AND NEXT UP IS ITEM 11 D.
ITEM 11 B, AN ORDINANCE INCREASING THE SEWER RATES IN SECTION 9 3 4 0.03 OF THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES OF HUBER HEIGHTS AT THE SECOND RATING.
THIS LEGISLATION REPRESENTS A PROPOSED INCREASE TO THE CITY'S SEWER RATE.
UH, THIS RATE REFLECTS INCREASES THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, PROVIDED TO THE CITY THROUGH OUR CONTRACTOR, VIOLA, PURSUANT TO THEIR OPERATIONAL CONTRACT AS WELL AS THROUGH TRI-CITIES AND THEIR SERVICE AGREEMENT.
UH, IT'S ESTIMATED THAT THE AVERAGE MONTHLY UTILITY BILL IN THE CITY WILL INCREASE APPROXIMATELY $1 AND 21 CENTS.
IN RESPONSE TO THIS, UH, INCREASE WE WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL, ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION THIS EVENING, AND THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORK SESSION.
IS THERE A MOTION? OKAY, MOVE TO ADOPT.
ITEM 11 C IN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING A ONE-TIME TRANSFER OF MONIES FROM THE GASOLINE TAX FUND TO DOCUMENT AND ADVANCE PREVIOUSLY MADE TO THE CARRIAGE TRAILS INFRASTRUCTURE FUND AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY AT THE SECOND READING.
THIS LEGISLATION PROVIDES FOR THE TRANSITION OF AN ACCOUNTING MEASURE, UH, FROM AN INTERFUND LOAN, UH, TO A, UH, GIFT IF YOU WILL, UH, WITH RESPECT TO DOLLARS ADVANCED FROM THE GAS TAX FUND TO THE CARRIAGE TRAIL'S INFRASTRUCTURE FUND.
STAFF WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL, ADOPT THIS ITEM THIS EVENING.
THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE WORK SESSION.
IS THERE A MOTION, RICHARD? MOTION TO ADOPT FOR A SECOND, DON? I WILL SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? RICHARD? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UM, BRIAN, SOME INFORMATION, UM, UH, DURING MY RESEARCH FROM FEBRUARY 7TH, UM, AND I, I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION.
AM I TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE AMOUNT, UM, LISTED, UH, WITHIN THIS, UM, ITEM, UH, HERE OF THE $640,000, UM, WILL THAT BE RECOUPED AND REPLENISHED BACK INTO THE GASOLINE TAX FUND? YES, THOSE ARE REVENUES THAT WILL BE PAID TO THE CITY THROUGH A COMBINATION OF, UM, SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS, UH, AND TIFF REVENUE GENERATED FROM THE CARRIAGE TRAIL SUBDIVISION, AND THAT REVENUE WILL BE USED TO REPLENISH THE GAS TAX FUND OVER TIME.
AND, AND IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING IN THE FINANCE DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS AT THAT, UH, UH, THAT SAME WORK SESSION, THAT THERE WAS A TOTAL OF TWO SIBLINGS, UH, THIS COUNCIL AUTHORIZED A THIRD C LOAN, BUT IT WAS HIS REQUEST NOT TO GO THROUGH, THROUGH A THIRD, UH, DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE SECOND C LOAN IS OPEN AND HAS, UM, EXCEEDED ITS TIME, UM, BY NEARLY THREE TIMES WITH A BALANCE REMAINING OF ROUGHLY 56,000.
AM I CORRECT ON THAT? I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.
AND AM I, AM I TO ALSO TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE DELAY IN THE, THE OPEN C LOAN THAT HAS EXTENDED BY THREE TIMES ITS AMOUNT IS NOT AN ERROR ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, BUT BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER? I CAN'T CLASSIFY IT AS AN ERROR.
WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT IN ORDER FOR THE CITY TO CLOSE, UH, THE PROVISIONS OF THE LOAN, IT IS REQUIRED TO PRESENT CERTAIN PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT ARE PROVIDED TO IT FROM THE DEVELOPER.
SO IF THE DEVELOPER IS EXPERIENCING DELAYS IN MATERIAL OR IT IS EXPERIENCING DELAYS IN ACQUIRING THE INFORMATION NECESSARY TO PROVIDE THE CITY, THEN THAT ROUTE, THAT DELAYS OUR ABILITY TO COMPLY WITH THE LOAN
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REQUIREMENTS.AND, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE LONGER THE C LOAN REMAINS OPEN, ESPECIALLY PAST THE ORIGINAL, UH, I THINK THE, UM, STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANKS, UM, GIVES A A 12 TO EIGHT 18 MONTH TIME PERIOD THAT PUTS MORE PAPERWORK AND, UM, MORE TIME THAT OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND FINANCE DIRECTOR HAS TO KEEP THIS ZIP LOAD OPEN.
AM I CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, MAYOR, I, I CERTAINLY, UH, APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION, UH, PROVIDED THE ADDITIONAL RESEARCH, AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS MEASURE TONIGHT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ANY IT, BRIAN? COULD THIS $640,000 BE USED ON SOME OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE CITY? THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ON HOW THE GAS TAX CAN BE USED.
UH, IF THIS MONEY WERE TO BE IMMEDIATELY REPLENISHED OR IF IT WERE TO BE REPLENISHED BY THE, UM, CIV, YES, IT COULD BE USED, UH, SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, AS OPPOSED TO WAITING FOR THE FUNDS TO BE REPAID OVER TIME FROM THE DEVELOPER.
GLENN RYAN, I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.
IF, UH, IF THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION WERE NOT TO PASS, WHAT WOULD, UM, ANY TYPE OF, UH, WHAT WOULD THE SITUATION LOOK LIKE? WHAT WOULD THAT RESULT IN? THAT THE CARRIAGE TRAILS INFRASTRUCTURE FUND WOULD HAVE TO EFFECTIVELY REPAY THE, UH, GAS TAX FUND, THE MONEY BORROWED, ASSUMING THAT THERE IS A REVENUE STREAM BACK INTO THE CARRIAGE TRAILS INFRASTRUCTURE FUND.
ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, MR. OTTO? NO.
NEXT UP IS ITEM 11 D, ITEM 11 D.
WE ALSO HAVE JUST, WE RECOGNIZING WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER, UH, SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THE, UH, THE LEGISLATION BEING READ, AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO THE DISCUSSION, THEN THAT'S WHY I BECOME TO THE PODIUM.
ITEM 11 D AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CERTAIN SECTIONS OF PART 11 PLANNING AND ZONING CODE OF THE CITY, CODE OF HUBER HEIGHTS REGARDING HOME OCCUPATIONS IN CASE TA 22 DASH FOUR 2.1 AT THE THIRD READING.
THIS LEGISLATION IS TO AMEND PROVISIONS OF THE, UH, CITY'S CODE WITH RESPECT TO HOME OCCUPATIONS.
UH, IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNER AND OF STAFF, UH, THAT THIS ITEM BE ADOPTED BY COUNSEL THIS EVENING.
AND THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION AT THE WORK SESSION.
UH, AT THIS TIME AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION, I WOULD ASK OUR SPEAKER TO COME, UH, TO THE PODIUM, MR. JAMES, JACK LEWIS JA LEITZ, SIR.
FIRST OF ALL, PLEASE PARDON ME FROM MY IGNORANCE OF PROTOCOL, I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE I WAS GONNA SPEAK OR NOT.
YEAH, I THOUGHT MAYBE I'D MISSED SOMETHING.
UM, BUT ANY CASE, UH, MY NAME IS JAMES P JAZ.
I'VE LIVED IN THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, UH, SINCE 1991, UH, CAME HERE.
I'M A RETIRED AIR FORCE AND I'VE LOVED IT, AND MY WIFE WORKS IN THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS CITY SCHOOL SYSTEM.
IN FACT, THAT YOUNG MAN THERE, MY WIFE TOOK CARE OF HIM FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, AND SHE'D TELL YOU THE REST OF IT.
BUT THE POINT IS THAT, UH, JENNIFER IS A VERY DEDICATED MOM.
UM, I'VE SEEN HER GO TO, I WAS THERE IN, IN, IN COLUMBUS, AND I WATCHED HER MAKE HER PRESENTATION, UM, VERY POLISHED.
SHE'S A VERY GOOD REPRESENTATIVE FOR WHAT SHE'S TRY AND SHE DOES IT OUTTA LOVE.
UM, AND I'VE NEVER SEEN A MORE DEDICATED MOM TO A CHILD THAT'S DIS DISABLED, AND, UH, AND MY WIFE REALLY LOVES THAT FAMILY.
SO LOOKING THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS.
I'M SURE JENNIFER APPRECIATES THAT AS WELL.
UM, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I READ RECENTLY OF A PROPOSAL TO BE VOTED ON THIS EVENING TO ALLOW SMALL COMMERCIAL SIGNS AND RESIDENTIAL YARDS WITHIN THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
I HAVE LIVED IN THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, AS I SAID, SINCE 1991.
I TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN THE APPEARANCE OF MY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, SO I MAKE GREAT EFFORTS TO MAINTAIN THE APPEARANCE OF BOTH MY HOME AND THE LAND.
IT IS ON, THE KEY WORD HERE IS RESIDENTIAL, NOT COMMERCIAL.
THE MOMENT THAT A BUSINESS SIGN, NO MATTER THE SIZE OR LACK OF ILLUMINATION, IS PLACED ON A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, IT IS NO LONGER RESIDENTIAL.
IT IS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY BY VIRTUE OF THE BUSINESS SIGN BEING PLACED ON THAT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
WHEN ELECTIONS OCCUR, CANDIDATE SIGNS GO UP IN HOMEOWNER'S YARDS, AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THAT I SUPPORT THE DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM.
UH, HUBER HEIGHT ZONING LAW REQUIRES THESE SIGNS TO BE MOVED.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WITHIN A VERY SHORT TIME AFTER THE ELECTION IS OVER.
UH, THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.
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WE ARE A COMMUNITY.WE AS A COMMUNITY HAVE DECIDED THAT ALLOWING SIGNS DETRACTS FROM THE APPEARANCE OF OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
HUBER HEIGHTS HOMEOWNERS HAVE GENERALLY INVESTED SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF MONEY, INCLUDING WA IN, IN IMPROVING AND MAINTAINING THEIR HOMES AND LAND AT A TIME IN THE FUTURE.
WHEN THEY GO TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY, THEY DESERVE TO BE REWARDED FOR THEIR HARD EFFORTS IN THE FORM OF ACHIEVING THE GREATEST RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT.
HOMEOWNERS HAVE THE OPTION OF LIVING IN MIXED COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, BUT BY LIVING IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY HAVE MADE A STATEMENT THAT THEY DESIRE RESIDENTIAL OVER COMMERCIAL DISTINGUISHED CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I ASK YOU TO REJECT THE PROPOSAL THAT ALLOWS COMMERCIAL SIGNS TO BE PLACED ON HUBER HEIGHTS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
PRIVATE HOME BUSINESSES CAN STILL BE OPERATED IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, AS LONG AS THERE ARE NO EXTERIOR INDICATIONS OF A BUSINESS BEING CONDUCTED AT THAT SAME HUBER HEIGHTS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, BUSINESS SIGNAGE, AND HUBER HEIGHTS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT BOTH PROPERTY VALUES AND APPEARANCES.
HOME BUYERS PRIMARILY PURCHASE HOMES TO LIVE IN, NOT TO RUN BUSINESSES FROM.
SO IN CONCLUSION, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, AND, UM, I JUST FEEL LIKE MAYBE IF I LIVED IN BEAVER CREEK, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE THINK OF PEOPLE WHO, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT A RICH NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, BUT WE, WE TRY TO TAKE PRIDE IN WHAT WE LIVE IN, AND I'M ASKING YOU TO SEE IT FROM MY POINT OF VIEW AND POSSIBLY A LOT OF OTHER HOMEOWNER POINT OF VIEW WHEN IT COMES TO PUTTING SIGNS IN SOMEONE'S YARD, ADVERTISE IN A SMALL BUSINESS.
YES, GLENN, IF I MAY, SIR, YOU REQUESTED, SO I'M, I'M GOING TO FULFILL THAT FOR YOU.
UM, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF POLITICAL SIGNS AND PRIVATE YARDS, THEY COULD BE UP HERE AROUND 24 7.
UM, IT, AS LONG AS IT'S WITHIN THE OWNER'S PROPERTY AND NOT IN A PUBLIC SPACE, I'M SORRY, MY NO, AND THAT'S FINE.
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY FINE, BUT I DON'T SEE IT THAT OFTEN THAT WAY.
WELL, NOBODY REALLY WANTS 'EM TO BE OUT ALL, ALL YEAR ROUND, SO, BUT, UH, SURE.
BUT YEAH, WHEN IT COMES TO PRIVATE PROPERTY SIGNAGE, UH, WE HAVE TO ALLOW PEOPLE THEIR RIGHTS TO SPEAK THEIR MINDS ON STUFF LIKE THAT.
THE BUSINESS, BUSINESS SIGNAGE IS DIFFERENT.
UH, I WILL GRANT YOU THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT.
APPRECIATE, YOU'RE QUITE WELCOME.
AS I STATED AT THE, UH, WORK SESSION, I WON'T BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS, AND IT IS SOLELY, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE FOUR FOOT, UH, SIGNAGE ATTACHED TO THE DEVELOPER.
SO WE NEED A MOTION, GLEN, I'LL GLADLY MAKE THE MOTION, BUT I, A QUESTION.
OH, WE NEED A SECOND FIRST BEFORE WE, WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE WE HAD DISCUSSION, ANITA.
SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND, AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE DISCUSSION.
GLEN, UM, TO WHOEVER CAN HANDLE THIS, UM, WOULD THERE BE ANY REASON FOR ME TO NEED A RECUSE FROM THIS BEING AS MY TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT MY FAMILY RUNS IS THE SAME TYPE OF DRESS IN THIS? DOES IT MATTER? I THINK YOU'RE IN A COMMERCIAL AREA.
I MEAN, YEAH, I AM CURRENTLY, BUT I MEAN, IF THIS WERE TO PASS, I COULD MOVE IT TO OUR HOUSE, CORRECT.
WAS THAT AS LONG AS YOU MET THE OTHER? CORRECT.
YEAH, I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT K.
YOU VOTING? I'M OKAY IF NOBODY HAS AN ISSUE WITH IT.
SECOND, AND, AND AM I, TIM, TIM, MAKE SURE, I KNOW IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE, BUT I KNOW YOU KNOW THE RULES.
SO NOW, ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION ON A SECOND AND WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION.
UM, MAYOR, IF I MAY ENGAGE IN CONVERSATION WITH COUNCILMAN WEBB? YES.
UM, AT THE, AT THE LAST MEETING YOU, YOU MADE COMMENT, UM, OF, OF THE SIGN PORTION BEING A HUGE HICCUP FOR YOU.
AND, UM, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT ISSUE.
I ALSO HAVE A SIGN ISSUE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE, ARE YOU WILLING TO STAND WITH ME AND PROVIDE DIRECTION TO OUR ZONING AND OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR TO CON UH, TO REMOVE ALL OF THE ILLEGAL RESIDENTIAL SIGNS THAT POP UP IN OUR COMMUNITY ON THE WEEKENDS? UH, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE, UM, I'M, I'M, I'M REFERRING TO THE DECK, THE D BY THE NEW HOME SIGNS, THE BUY HOME SIGNS THAT ARE PLACED ILLEGALLY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, I HAD THIS VERIFIED WITH OUR, OUR CITY MANAGER AND OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
UH, THEY HAVE, UM, AND I BELIEVE, AND HE CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, STILL NO PERMIT AT THIS TIME TO PUT THOSE SIGNS.
UH, THEY'RE AT MAJOR INTERSECTIONS, RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
THEY POP UP EVERY WEEKEND AND, UH, DESTROY THE, UM, IMAGE
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OF THIS COMMUNITY.UM, I KNOW, AND, AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I BROUGHT THIS TO CITY COUNCIL.
UM, I I RAN HARDCORE ON THIS, UH, BACK IN 20 16, 20 17.
I FELT LIKE WE MADE PROGRESS AND WE'RE GOING RIGHT BACK AT IT.
UM, THIS SIGN, IF I READ CORRECTLY, UM, IS NOT A, UM, UH, A LIGHTED SIGN, NON ILLUMINATED.
UM, AND, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S ACTUALLY SMALLER THAN THE SIGNS THAT ARE ILLEGALLY PUT OUT BY THESE HOME BUILDERS.
UM, AND I BELIEVE IT SAYS IF IT'S MOUNTED, IT GOES, UM, ON, ON THE WALL.
SO I, I GUESS I'M ASKING, UM, VERY RESPECTFULLY, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE THAT WE'RE ALLOWING OUR, IN OUR COMMUNITY? THANK YOU.
UM, FIRST I'LL ADDRESS THIS WITH REGARD TO, UM, THE HOME OCCUPATION, HAVING A SIGN ON THE FRONT OF THEIR HOME.
OUR CURRENT RESIDENTIAL CODE ALLOWS FOR A TWO SQUARE FOOT SIGN IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND THE, I BELIEVE IT'S PROBABLY REFERRING TO, UM, RICHARD PUTTING A MONOGRAM ON THE FRONT OF THE, UH, SHAW HOME.
SO THERE IS A TWO FOOT, UH, SIGN PERMITTED WITHIN AN R UH, RESIDENTIAL.
SO TO EXPAND THAT FOR THE PURPOSES OF A HOME OCCUPATION, TO ALLOW A FOURTH SQUARE FOOT SIGN TO IDENTIFY BOB'S BARBERSHOP OPERATING OUT OF HIS GARAGE, NO OFFENSE IF THERE IS A BARB'S, A BOB'S BARBERSHOP, BUT NONETHELESS, TO ALLOW A FOUR SQUARE FOOT SIGN, IF YOU CAN VISUALIZE THAT, THAT IS A ONE FOOT TALL BY FOUR FOOT LONG SIGN, UH, PLACED ABOVE THE GARAGE, UM, IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOW MULTIPLY THAT TIMES THE NUMBER OF HOME BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE CITY HOME OCCUPATIONS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, AS OUR, UM, UH, PERSON WHO STOOD UP TONIGHT, UM, UH, STATED PRETTY SOON.
YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS, UH, HAS EVERY SECOND, FOURTH, SIXTH HOUSE WITH A BUSINESS SIGN ON THE FRONT.
AGAIN, FOUR SQUARE FOOT, UM, ONE FOOT BY FOUR FOOT OR TWO FOOT BY TWO FOOT NON ILLUMINATED MOUNTED TO THE HOUSE.
I'D AGREE, UM, WITH HIS STATEMENT THAT I THINK THAT DESTROYS THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO GIVEN THAT, THAT'S MY OBJECTION TO THE, UM, TO THIS PARTICULAR AMEND I'M IN FRONT OF US AS FAR AS YOUR STATEMENT ON THE, UH, SIGNAGE THAT APPEARS TO BLOSSOM LIKE SPRING FLOWERS EVERY WEEKEND AND THEN MAGICALLY DISAPPEARS BY MONDAY MORNING, I'LL STAND BESIDE YOU ON THAT.
I'M IN A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREEMENT.
UM, IT IS SKIRTING WHAT OUR, UH, ZONING REQUIREMENTS ARE.
OUR ZONING REQUIREMENTS DON'T PERMIT SIGNS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
OUR ZONING REQUIREMENTS DON'T ALLOW, UH, THOSE TYPE OF SIGNS TO, UH, BE PLACED WHERE YOU SEE 'EM BEING PLACED.
I'M SURE MR. CHAD KOWSKI CAN SPEAK TO THIS, BUT I'M SURE IT'S AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
I BELIEVE THAT, UH, WE'VE TAKEN STEPS TO TRY AND ADDRESS THAT ON THE WEEKENDS IN TIMES PAST, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY WE SHOULD HAVE TO ENFORCE ZONING REQUIREMENTS ON THE, THE WEEKENDS TO GET PEOPLE TO COMPLY WITH, UH, THE RULES OF THE CITY.
SO I'VE BEEN ASKED, I'LL STAND BESIDE ON THAT QUESTION FOR HERE, SIR.
UM, ONE OTHER QUESTION, MAYOR, IF I MAY.
UM, COUNCILMAN WEBB, IF THE ITEM SEVEN WITHIN THIS, THAT SPOKE OF THE ONE NON ILLUMINATED, NON ILLUMINATED SIGN WAS STRICKEN FROM THIS, UM, UH, PIECE OF, UH, LEGISLATION, UM, WOULD THAT IN FACT GARNER YOUR SUPPORT? IT WOULD ONLY BECAUSE THE REST OF IT DOES SPEAK TO HOME OCCUPATIONS AND CLARIFYING, UH, AND ADDING SOME DEFINITIONS TO HOME OCCUPATIONS THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE.
I AGREE WITH, UH, UH, AARON SORRELL'S RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGH THIS.
AGAIN, AS I GO BACK TO MY YEARS ON PLANNING COMMISSION, THE ONE, UH, REQUIREMENT FOR A HOME OCCUPATION THAT WAS CONSISTENTLY ENFORCED WAS THAT IT WAS UNOBTRUSIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT BOB'S BARBERSHOP WAS NEXT DOOR UNLESS YOU'RE GOING OVER THERE TO GET YOUR HAIRCUT, BUT YOU DIDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW IT BECAUSE WE HAD LIMITATIONS ON TRAFFIC AND, UM, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE AT ONE TIME.
I THINK THIS CLARIFIES A LOT OF THAT.
I'M JUST NOT A BIG FAN OF STICKING FOUR FOOT FOUR SQUARE FOOT SIGNS IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THE REASON I ASK THAT MR. WEBB IS, UM, I, I I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THE HARD WORK OF OUR PLANNING, UH, COMMISSION
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AND OUR CITY PLANNER, UM, SHOULD GO, UM, WITH MERIT.UM, AND, UH, I, I AM ADVOCATING FOR THIS ITEM TO BE PASSED TONIGHT.
UM, I WOULD STAND, UH, WITH THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE MADE THE MOTION SECOND TO WITHDRAW AND IF WE COULD, UH, MAKE A, UM, AN AMENDMENT TONIGHT REMOVING, UM, ITEM SEVEN FROM THAT PIECE OF LEGISLATION, UH, I BELIEVE MR. WEBB, YOU SAID THAT WOULD GET YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION? YES, SIR.
THAT WOULD GET MY SUPPORT AS WELL.
OKAY, SO THE MOTION WAS GLENN, SECOND WAS ANITA.
SO, UH, ARE YOU WILLING TO WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION? I WOULD BE HAPPY TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION.
SO WE'RE BACK TO SQUARE ONE ON THIS IS, UH, RICHARD, ARE YOU MAKING INFORMAL AMENDMENT TO THE, TO THE RESOLUTION? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
AT THIS TIME I AM MAKING A MOTION AND AN AM I'M SORRY, AN AMENDMENT, UH, TO REMOVE ITEM SEVEN, UH, WITHIN THE, UM, 11 81 26 HOME OCCUPATIONS.
UM, AND, UH, THAT IS A MOTION.
OKAY, SO HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND, UH, 11 81 26 TO REMOVE OPTION SEVEN REGARDING THE SIGNAGE.
UH, IS THERE A SECOND? ANITA? SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS? NOW THIS IS KITCHEN NEED A MOTION TO AMEND THEN ADOPT, CORRECT? CORRECT.
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.
AND NEXT WE NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT ANITA.
I MOVED TO ADOPT THE AMENDED MOTION.
I WILL SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MOTION TO ADOPT CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.
[12. New Business]
NUMBER 12, WHICH IS NEW BUSINESS, UH, UNDER CITY COUNCIL.A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CLERK OF COUNSEL TO RESPOND TO THE OHIO DIVISION OF LIQUOR CONTROL WITH NO OBJECTIONS IN REFERENCE TO NEW LIQUOR.
PERMIT NUMBER 80 82 73 66 FOR TAYLOR MART, LLC.
IT'S 62 5 TAYLORSVILLE ROAD, HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO, 45,000 4 24.
IT'S DISCUSSED AT THE WORK SESSION.
THIS IS FOR A NEW LIQUOR PERMIT FOR A C ONE
UH, IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY THE, UH, FIRE AND POLICE DIVISIONS WITHOUT OBJECTION.
UH, THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO APPROVE THIS MOTION THIS EVENING.
THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR A MOTION.
ANY DISCUSSION? TONY? MR. SHAW? YES.
NEXT IS ITEM 12 B, ITEM 12 B IN THE ORDINANCE TO ADOPT AND CODIFY AN IN INDIGENT BURIAL POLICY FOR THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS AND AMENDING PART ONE, ADMINISTRATIVE CODE TITLE ONE, GENERAL PROVISIONS OF THE CITY CODE OF HUBER HEIGHTS TO ADD CHAPTER ONE 11, INDIGENT BURIAL POLICY AT THE FIRST READ.
UH, I REVIEWED THIS PROPOSED POLICY TO JUST, UH, ESTABLISH A PROCESSING POLICY FOR INDIGENT BURIALS.
IT'S A STATUTORILY REQUIRED OBLIGATION OF THE CITY UNDER THE OHIO REVISED CODE.
UM, THIS ORDINANCE CAN GO TO A SECOND READING.
SECOND READING WAS THE RECOMMENDATION.
ANY OBJECTION TO MOVING TO THE SECOND READING? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE THIS ON.
CAN I JUST ASK TONY ONE QUESTION ABOUT THIS DETAIL? SURE.
CAN YOU TELL ME THE AVERAGE BURIAL COST? JUST SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE AVERAGE BURIAL COST FOR, FOR CREMATION.
I, I DON'T KNOW BURIAL COSTS, BUT FOR, FOR CREMATIONS IT'S ABOUT $750 IS WHAT WE PAY OUT OF POCKET AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE PAID FOR.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
OKAY, WE'LL MOVE TO A SECOND READING AND NEXT UP IS ITEM 12 C.
ITEM 12 C, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE EDITING AND INCLUSION OF CERTAIN ORDINANCES AND OR RESOLUTIONS AS PARTS OF THE VARIOUS COMPONENT CODES OF THE CITY CODE OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO, PROVIDING FOR THE ADOPTION AND PUBLICATION OF NEW MATTER.
AND THE UPDATED AND REVISED CITY CODE IS SUPPLEMENT 12 AND SUPPLEMENT 13 AND REPEALING ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS AND CONFLICT THERE WITH THE FIRST READING.
TONY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, THIS CAN ALSO GO TO A SECOND READING.
THIS IS JUST A STANDARD, UH, ORDINANCE TO APPROVE UPDATES, UH, THROUGH SUPPLEMENTS TO THE CITY CODE FOR THE LAST TWO QUARTERS OF 2022.
AND THEN WAS THE RECOMMENDATION A SECOND? READING ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY.
NEXT UP IS ITEM 12 D UNDER ADMINISTRATION.
ITEM 12 D, A RESOLUTION DECLARING C CERTAIN CITY PROPERTY NO LONGER NEEDED FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES, A SURPLUS AND AUTHORIZING DISPOSAL OF SAD SURPLUS PROPERTY AT THE FIRST READING.
THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZES THE CITY TO DISPOSE OF CERTAIN VEHICLES WHICH ARE NO
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LONGER NEEDED OR WILL SHORTLY BE REPLACED.WE WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL, ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION.
THIS, WHAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION? IS THERE A MOTION DONE? SLOW? MOVE TO SECOND.
MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO AND NEXT IS ITEM 12 E.
ITEM 12 E A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO REMOVE $334 AND 28 CENTS AND GRASS WEEDS ASSESSMENT FEES AND $834 AND 5 CENTS IN TRASH LITTER ASSESSMENT FEES FROM 70 84.
CLAY BACK DRIVE AT THE FIRST STREET.
THIS LEGISLATION REMOVES THESE FEES WHICH WERE ASSESSED TO THE PROPERTY, UH, DUE TO A TIMING ERROR OR SHOULD DUE TO A TIMING ISSUE, I SHOULD SAY.
UH, WHEN THE UH, NEW OWNER AT THE TIME OF ACQUISITION APPROACHED THE CITY TO TRY AND ADDRESS THESE MATTERS IN ADVANCE.
AND AS SUCH, WE WOULD ASK THAT THE COUNCIL ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION THEN WAS THE RECOMMENDATION, SIR? MOTION CLINTON.
YOU HAVE A MOTION TO THE SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION MR. CAMPBELL? YES.
[13. City Official Reports And Comments]
AND NEXT ITEM NUMBER 13.THAT WAS, UH, CITY OFFICIAL REPORTS IN COMMON.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ANITA? I'D LIKE TO THANK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SATURDAY.
WE DID ATTEND THE, UM, BOOK READING AND, UM, ACTIVITIES OVER AT THE POLICE STATION.
IT WAS, UM, VERY WELL RECEIVED AND, UM, HOPE THAT THEY CAN DO MORE OF THAT.
THAT WAS A REALLY NICE ACTIVITY.
AND ALSO WELCOME TO, I DON'T SHOULDN'T SAY WELCOME, BUT DOG TOWN OPENED AND THAT WAS A NICE, UH, OPEN HOUSE THERE AS WELL.
ANYONE ELSE DONE? I'LL JUST PIGGYBACK WHAT, UH, COUNCILMAN KITCHEN SAID WITH REGARD TO DOGTOWN.
UH, WE WERE THERE FOR THE OPEN HOUSE AND DOGTOWN IS AN AMAZING FACILITY.
THE BUILDING IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL AND AS YOU STAND IN THE LOBBY OF THE BUILDING AND YOU LOOK OUT ACROSS AT THE NEW LIBRARY, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF KEYSTONE PIECES THERE THAT WILL BE THE ANCHORS OF OUR GRANT PIKE REVITALIZATION.
IT REALLY IS ENCOURAGING AND, UH, THE PEOPLE AT DOGTOWN ARE 100% ON BOARD WITH, UH, THE REVITALIZATION EFFORTS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THEY'VE PUT THEIR MONEY WHERE THEIR MOUTH IS.
THEY, UH, THE BUILDING IS EXCEPTIONALLY WELL EXECUTED.
ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, JUST LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY ON MARCH 15TH, WE HAVE OUR TOWN HALL FOR THE WATER, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THAT IS ON MARCH 15TH, 6:00 PM SO ONE'S WELCOME TO THAT.
SO WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY I THINK THIS COUNCIL HAS SHOWN AND BASED ON SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM LOTS OF COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, WE'RE KIND OF AT A STANDSTILL AND LOTS OF DIFFERENT ITEMS. SO THAT BEING THE CASE, UH, OUR AGENDAS ARE GETTING VERY, VERY THIN.
UH, SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, WE JUST DON'T NEED TO HAVE AS MANY WORK SESSIONS AS WHAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING.
SO I WON'T BE CALLING THE WORK SESSION DURING THE MIDDLE OF MARCH.
WE WILL HAVE THE NEXT ONE ON MARCH 27TH PRIOR TO THE ACTUAL COUNCIL MEETING.
SO WE'LL HAVE A WORK SESSION AT SIX O'CLOCK AND THEN THE COUNCIL MEETING, UH, AT SEVEN OR CLOSELY OR SHORTLY THEREAFTER, UH, AFTER WE HAVE THE WORK SESSION.
SO WE'LL JUST WRAP WHAT WE HAVE TO DO UP INTO ONE MEETING AND THAT'S HOW WE'LL MOVE FORWARD UNTIL, UH, WE HAVE SOME INTERESTING COMPROMISE AND TALKING AND NEGOTIATING THROUGH THINGS LIKE WE ACTUALLY SHOULD.