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[1. Call Meeting To Order]
THE JOINT SESSION, UH, BETWEEN THE HUBER HEIGHT CITY SCHOOL BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL.UM, I'M GONNA KICK THIS MEETING OFF.
IF YOU GUYS WOULDN'T MIND, PLEASE JOIN ME IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION, ONE UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
MS. RUCKER, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE? MR. BLEDSO? HERE.
WE NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
WE ADOPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, MR. RUCKER? MR. COMBS? YES.
MR. BLOOD? SO, MR. MULLINS? YES.
SO, UH, THANK YOU, UH, BOARD OF EDUCATION, UH, AND CITY COUNCIL FOR, UM, FINDING ALL THE TIMES IN OUR SCHEDULES TO GET TOGETHER AND HAVE, I THINK WHAT WOULD BE PROBABLY THE FIRST IN A SERIES OF IMPORTANT DISCUSSIONS, UH, BETWEEN CITY COUNCIL AND THE SCHOOL BOARD, UH, FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY ALL TOGETHER FOR THE CITY AND THE SCHOOLS.
SO WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE MAKING THE TIME, UH, TO BE HERE.
UH, SO BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON OUR END, UH, WE WILL DEAL WITH OUR ROLL CALL.
SO, TONY, IF, UH, IF YOU WOULD, HERE PLEASE.
MR. CAMPBELL? MRS. BURGE? HERE.
AND, UH, MR. CAMPBELL IS NOT HERE THIS EVENING.
HE IS OUT OF TOWN IN CLEVELAND DUE TO A FAMILY MEDICAL EMERGENCY, SO, UH, HE'S LET US KNOW HE WOULD BE OUT OF TOWN AT OUR, AT OUR LAST MEETING, UH, THAT WE HAD.
SO, UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL
[ School Safety Collaboration]
GET STARTED WITH THE AGENDA HERE.AND, UH, NUMBER ONE, THE FIRST ITEM IS SCHOOL SAFETY COLLABORATION.
AND, UH, SO I THINK WE ALL KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME, SOME SAFETY CONCERNS, UH, THAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE LAST, UH, COUPLE WEEKS.
SO, UH, MR. NICKS AND I HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS AND, UH, I GOT WITH, UH, BRIAN AND, UM, A COUPLE OTHER DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I KNOW I TALKED TO MR. SHAW AND WE WERE, UH, LOOKING AT WHAT WE COULD DO FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, UH, TO FIND SOME EXTRA FUNDS, UH, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO HELP WHAT WE COULD DO IN PARTNERING WITH THE, WITH THE SCHOOLS TO ENHANCE SOME OF THE SAFETY ISSUES THAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH THE SCHOOLS.
SO IF THAT MEANS, AND WE CAN OPEN THIS UP FOR SOME DISCUSSION, BUT THAT IF THAT ENTAILS, UM, EXTRA FUNDING FOR AN ADDITIONAL SRO OFFICER, IF THAT INCLUDES SOME FUNDING FOR, UM, OVERTIME FOR POLICE AND AND SECURITY AT SOME OF THE EVENTS WITH THE SCHOOL.
WE JUST, WE WANNA BE A PARTNER WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD.
I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT SAFETY IS, IS, IS A BIG ISSUE FOR ALL OF US.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL SAFETY AND ISSUES TO DEAL WITH THE SCHOOLS ALSO AFFECT THE CITY, AND IN MANY WAYS ALSO.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT AND WE ALL ARE WILLING TO PARTNER, UH, WITH THE SCHOOLS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL DOING OUR PART BECAUSE THE CITY WON'T BE SUCCESSFUL WITHOUT A SUCCESSFUL SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A SUCCESSFUL SCHOOL DISTRICT WITHOUT SUCCESSFUL CITY.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US, UH, THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.
SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, I THINK OUR DISCUSSION WOULD BE THE, UH, KIND OF LASO FOUNDATIONS OF SOME OF THE WORK ALONG THIS COLLABORATION.
UH, GET WE, THERE ARE, COULD BE SOME IDEAS THAT DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE, BUT I THINK SPECIFIC TO WHAT THE SOLUTIONS ARE, I THINK WE WOULD LEAVE THAT UP TO, THAT IS KIND OF THE, THAT'S THE PAY GRADE OF THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE SUPERINTENDENT, NOT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, WE, WE HAVE SOME IDEAS AND WAYS TO COLLABORATE, BUT I THINK THE, THE DETAILS, AS LONG AS OUR COUNCIL IS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT COLLABORATION AND, AND, AND FINANCING AND HELPING WITH THE FUNDING, THE DISCUSSION THEN SHOULD BE LEFT IN THE IMPLEMENTATION BETWEEN OUR UHC MANAGER AND MRT KOWSKI AND, AND MR. ENIX WITH SUPPORT, OBVIOUSLY IN COLLABORATION AND QUESTIONS, UH, FROM, FROM BOTH, FROM BOTH BODIES.
SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE MY SYNOPSIS OF KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT, WHY THIS ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA.
AND THEN CERTAINLY WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT ANYONE MAY HAVE.
BUT I THINK THE, THE BIG GOAL IS WE ARE, UH, I THINK AS, AS A, AS A COUNCIL AND THE CITY, WE'RE ON BOARD HELPING
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THE, THE DISTRICT, HOWEVER WE CAN.BUT THOSE DETAILS SHOULD BE LEFT OUT TO THE PEOPLE WHO, WHO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND AND ARE IN-DEPTHLY INVOLVED WITH, WITH THE SITUATIONS THAT ARE GOING ON.
UH, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THEN I WOULD TURN IT BACK OVER TO, TO YOU, ROBBIE, TO ADDRESS, UH, MR. ENIX.
AND THEN CERTAINLY IF ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL HAS SOME, SOME COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, WE'LL, WE'LL GO THERE TOO.
SO I WOULD SAY, SO WE HAD A WORK SESSION GOING OVER SOME OF THE SAFETY, SECURITY AND ALL THAT, AND, UH, WE KIND OF GOT A GOOD, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM EACH ONE OF YOU ABOUT SOME IDEAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, MORE BRAINS IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS IS GONNA HELP FOR SURE.
I KNOW THE, I SPOKE PERSONALLY WITH OUR SRO, THERE IS A SECOND NEEDED AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A HUGE NEED.
UM, FUNDING'S GOTTA BE THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEE LATER ON, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, FUNDING'S EVERYTHING WHEN IT COMES TO THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND ALL THAT.
SO, YEAH, WE'RE OPEN TO HEARING WHAT EACH ONE OF YOU HAVE TO SAY, SAY, AND IDEAS OR WHATEVER.
ARE YOU LOOKING AT SPECIFIC AREAS OF SAFETY? WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT, UM, DISRUPTIONS? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT TO THE, TO THE SAFETY? I THINK THE, WHAT MR. GORE WAS REFERENCING WAS SOME ISSUES WE HAD AT THE FOOTBALL ATHLETIC EVENTS YEAH.
AND, UM, DIFFERENT THINGS THERE.
AND WE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UH, REDOING, MAKING SOME DIFFERENT ENTRANCES FOR STUDENTS AND NO BAGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, AND THOSE ARE GOING INTO EFFECT, YEAH.
SO IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN A LITTLE BIT.
FIRST OF ALL, UM, YES, MR. GORDON.
I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION AFTER SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT, THAT TOOK PLACE EARLIER THIS, UH, THIS SEASON.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT, HOWEVER, THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
WE DON'T HAVE SAFETY, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, RIGHT? SO OUR TEAM MET HAS MET ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAN BE RELATED TO, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT EVENT MANAGEMENT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S TIGHTENING UP SOME PROCEDURES, SOME PROTOCOLS, UM, MAKING SURE WE ARE, ARE DOING THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT CAN BE AS PREVENTATIVE IN NATURE AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT GOING TO BEING TOO OBTRUSIVE INTO THE, THE GAME EXPERIENCE AND, AND HOW THAT WOULD, THE THINGS THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN IN ORDER FOR THAT TO TAKE PLACE.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS THAT THIS PAST MONDAY, UH, A FEW DAYS AGO, MEMBERS OF OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM MET WITH, UH, THE LEADERSHIP OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS OUR SROS.
AND A BIG CONVERSATION POINT, FIRST OF ALL, IS THERE'S A GREAT COLLABORATION BETWEEN OUR DISTRICT AND OUR, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING.
SO KUDOS TO, TO ALL OF THEM THAT HAVE BEEN A PART IN AND TAKING TIME OF THEIR DAY TO COME WORK WITH US.
WE SPENT ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THOSE, THOSE TOPICS.
AND THE UTILIZATION OF SROS, UH, WAS A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION.
UH, OF COURSE IN JANUARY, WE HAVE A THIRD SRO THAT, UH, WILL BE COMING ONLINE THAT HAS BEEN, UH, UH, PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED HERE AT BOARD LEVEL AS WELL AS IN THE CITY.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE KINDA THE RIGHT CONFIGURATION OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST SAFETY, SECURITY PRESENCE AT OUR BUILDINGS THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN.
SO THAT, THAT IS CERTAINLY ONE PIECE OF IT.
UM, AGAIN, EVENT MANAGEMENT IS, UH, A MAJOR COMPONENT TOO.
OF COURSE, FINANCES DO HAVE AN IMPACT, BUT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, PREVIOUS, UH, OPERATIONS AS FAR AS, I THINK IT WAS CALLED THE RED SHIRT, UM, I FORGET, I FORGET THE NAME OF IT.
BUT IT WAS A PROGRAM WHERE POLICE OFFICERS WERE WORKING EVENTS, NOT IN UNIFORM, BUT STILL KIND OF AS A, AS A SIDE POSITION.
UH, THAT WAS A, A PREVIOUS PRACTICE AS I UNDERSTOOD IT.
AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE BRING THAT BACK IS ANOTHER, UH, ANOTHER WAY TO PROVIDE AN EXTRA LAYER OF SECURITY AND SUPPORT AT EVENTS.
SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS, AS MAYOR GORE WAS TALKING ABOUT, THERE'S, THERE IS A, A FINANCIAL COMPONENT TO ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
UM, BUT WE KNOW, FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE MUST MAKE SURE THAT OUR, OUR SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT AND OUR EVENTS ARE, ARE SAFE PLACES FOR KIDS AND FOR SPECTATORS AND, AND JUST A PART OF, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.
SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF A BROAD, A BROAD SYNOPSIS OF THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING ON OUR END TO WORK, UH, COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, AND FIRE AS WELL, UH, FOR SECURITY.
UM, AS ONE OF THE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS UP HERE THAT DOES HAVE A STUDENT, UH, AT WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL, UH, ADDITIONALLY A STUDENT THAT IS PLAYING FOOTBALL FOR WAYNE AND BASEBALL, AND ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE HE CAN FIND HIS HANDS TO GET INTO AT THIS MOMENT.
UM, THIS IS A HUGE TOPIC OF CONCERN FOR ME.
UM, ONE OF THE TOPICS, AND I KNOW I'VE HAD SOME, SOME OFFLINE CONVERSATIONS WITH MANY OF YOU, IS SOME OF THE ACTIVITY THAT, UM, THAT SOME OF THE STUDENTS HAVE BEEN WITNESSING INSIDE THE LOCKER ROOMS AS WELL.
AND THESE ARE NOT STUDENTS THAT ARE WHAT I CALL HOMEGROWN HUBER HEIGHT STUDENTS.
THESE ARE STUDENTS THAT ARE COMING FROM OUTSIDE
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OF OUR, OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, UH, FROM OUTSIDE COMMUNITIES, UM, DAYTON, TROUT, WOOD, UH, SPRINGFIELD, OTHER COMMUNITIES, UH, THAT HAVE RECENTLY COME INTO THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT AND HAS CAUSED MAJOR DISRUPTION, NOT ONLY WITHIN THE ACADEMIC WORLD, UM, AND VANDALISM INSIDE SOME OF THE SCHOOLS, BUT ALSO INSIDE THE LOCKER ROOMS, UM, TO THE, TO THE PART THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME VERY CONCERNING ACTIVITY AND, AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP.UM, I THINK THAT IS DEFINITELY A TOPIC OF CONCERN THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO LOOK AT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT STARTS WITH THE, UH, THE LEADERSHIP, UM, OF OUR, OF OUR AC UM, OUR ATHLETIC DEPARTMENTS, UM, WAS SOME OF THE A ACTIVITY THAT I'VE SEEN PERSONALLY GO ON, AND I THINK MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN AS WELL.
THIS, THIS YEAR, UM, HAS BEEN VERY UNBECOMING, UH, OF, OF WHAT WE STAND FOR.
UM, SOME THINGS THAT'S VERY CONCERNING TO ME THAT I'VE HEARD INSIDE THE LOCKER ROOM TAKE PLACE, AND THINGS THAT I'VE SEEN ON THE FIELD TAKE PLACE.
UM, SO I'M HOPING THAT THAT IS SOMETHING AS A COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY, UM, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD, UH, IN THE NEXT YEAR.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS DEFINITELY, UH, THE, UH, THE SAFETY OF OUR, OUR STUDENTS AND OUR COMMUNITY AT THESE EVENTS, WHETHER IT BE FOOTBALL, BASKETBALL, VOLLEYBALL, UH, OR BASEBALL.
UM, I, I DID HAVE A VERY LENGTHY CONVERSATION WITH THE MAYOR, UM, ON, ON WHAT WE AS A, AS A CITY CAN DO IN COLLABORATION WITH THE SCHOOLS.
AND AS ONE COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU GUYS DEFINITELY HAVE MY SUPPORT ON WHATEVER IT TAKES, UM, TO, TO GET THERE.
UM, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, IDEAS AND, AND THOUGHTS COME FROM YOUR SIDE OF THE TABLE, AND, AND I DEFINITELY WANNA SEE THOSE GET IMPLEMENTED SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
UM, BUT I THINK WE, AS, AS A CITY AND AS A SCHOOL, DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF ONE VOICE, UH, IN ONE RESOLUTION WHEN IT COMES TO OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE COMMUNITY'S LOOKING FOR ANSWERS AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A RESOLUTION.
AND I THINK THE MORE ON A UNIFIED RESPONSE THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM, THE BETTER OFF WE ALL ARE, NOT ONLY WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PIECES, BUT YOU KNOW, THE BETTERMENT OF OUR SCHOOLS AND GOING INTO A NEW ACADEMIC AND, AND, AND ATHLETIC YEAR.
UM, SO THOSE ARE SOME OF MY THOUGHTS I DEFINITELY WANT TO PUT ACROSS.
AND, UM, KNOW THAT I, YOU KNOW, I'M DEFINITELY WILLING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, PUT IN THE TIME AND EFFORT.
UM, I, I THINK I'VE SPENT ABOUT AS MUCH TIME AT, UH, AT WAYNE AND, AND SOME OF THE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS OVER THE, UH, PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, UM, AND AT DIFFERENT, UH, YOU KNOW, EVENTS, ACADEMIC AND ATHLETIC.
UM, BUT, UH, IT'S DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, WE DEFINITELY WANNA SUCCEED TOGETHER.
UH, MR. SO, SO IF THERE'S ANY, UH, I KNOW GLEN HAD SOME COMMENTS, BUT I THINK MAYBE THE, THE, A GREAT WAY TO DO THIS IS SO WE'RE NOT JUST ALL, YOU KNOW, ONE SIDE.
SO AS SOMEONE FROM COUNCIL HAS A COMMENT AND IF THERE'S ANY, UH, REPLIES OR COMMENTARY TO ADD FROM THE BOARD, AND THEN WE CAN JUST, JUST HAVE A SMOOTH TRANSITION BETWEEN, BETWEEN COMMENTARY.
SO CERTAINLY IF ANYBODY, UH, MUL HAS ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, WE'LL TRADE BACK AND FORTH.
I GUESS I'LL, THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY IS WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE.
UH, THANK YOU CAN APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY CRITIQUES HERE TO SPEAK, BUT WHAT I DO WANT SAY IS THE LAST THING WE WANT ANY OF US WANT, I THINK IS FOR ANYONE, WITH ANY MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY OR ANY COMMUNITY SURROUNDING US TO THINK THAT OUR SCHOOLS ARE NOT SAFE.
UM, SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I THINK I AM FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF BOLSTERING OUR SRO PROGRAM WHERE IT'S NEEDED, UM, AND AS WELL ANY TYPE OF POLICE PRESENCE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE IN ANY WAY TO EVENTS, UM, BE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, PLAIN CLOSED OR, OR IN UNIFORM, UH, WHATEVER'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE OUR BETTER RESULT, I GUESS I COULD SAY.
BUT, UM, YEAH, I, I THINK THIS IS, HI, VERY IMPORTANT.
THAT'S JUST ONE REPUTATION WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE.
UM, WE NEED TO TAMP THIS DOWN AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN AND, AND I'M ALL IN FOR WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT.
I THINK SROS ARE A GREAT PLACE TO START.
ANY, ANY COMMENT, ANY COMMENTS? UH, THERE? THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT, UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I THINK REALLY STAFF FAR AND, AND I KNOW THAT MR. EICS AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM HAS BEEN MEETING WEEKLY, UM, REGARDING THOSE EVENTS AND TRYING TO FIND DIFFERENT WAYS TO SAFEGUARD THE STUDENTS AND WHAT WE DO, MAKE IT A MORE SECURE, UM, ENVIRONMENT.
BUT I'M APPRECIATIVE ANY COLLABORATION THAT WE CAN HAVE WITH CITY, I THINK WE ALL WANT THE SAME END RESULT IT
UM, I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND, UH, SUPERINTENDENT ENIX, UM, YOUR STAFF, UH, TEACHERS ALL THE WAY DOWN, INCLUDING THE STUDENTS, UH, THE SCHOOL BOARD, CERTAINLY.
UM, THE EVENTS THAT LED TO PART OF THIS DISCUSSION, I'M
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SURE IS THE NEWSPAPER REPORT, UH, WITH THE SECOND INCIDENT.UM, BUT I WANTED TO COMMEND THE SCHOOL BOARD, UH, BOTH THE PREVIOUS SUPERINTENDENT CURRENT IN THE SCHOOL BOARD NOW, UH, BECAUSE BOTH OF THOSE INCIDENTS, UM, THAT WAS REPORTED IN THE NEWSPAPER, CAME OFF WITHOUT INCIDENT.
SO YOU ALREADY HAD A, A SECURITY PLAN IN PLACE THAT WORKED.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT GETS ENOUGH COMMENT.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I POINTED THAT OUT, THAT WHAT YOU HAVE IN PLACE ALREADY HAS WORKED, CERTAINLY, AND FEAR JUMPS INTO THAT.
CERTAINLY NO ONE WANTS A SANDY HOOK OR A ALDI, BUT UNDERSTANDING SOME OF THE BEST SECURITY WE COULD POSSIBLY PUT IN MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO PREVENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE, YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR BEST WITH WHAT YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH.
AND ALREADY YOU HAVE SHOWN THAT WHAT YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH IS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
UM, I'D LIKE TO PARROT WHAT THE MAYOR SAID AND THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT, UH, FROM WHAT I HEAR SO FAR, ADDITIONAL, UH, OVER TIME FOR POLICE UNDERCOVER, OUT OF UNIFORM, UH, AT EVENTS, UH, CERTAINLY ADDITIONAL SROS TO HELP OUT.
I KNOW, AND I'M ONLY IMAGINING I SAID I KNOW.
I'M ONLY IMAGINING, UH, THE BIGGEST PART OF THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU HAVE THAT NEED POLICE SUPPORT WILL COME FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, USUALLY BY POPULATION AND SERIOUSNESS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, ANY, UM, UH, APPEARANCE IN THE ELEMENTARIES ARE ALWAYS BETTER, LIKE WITH A DARE.
BUT OTHER PROGRAMS TOO, TO GET THE STUDENTS AT A YOUNG AGE TO, UH, ACCEPT AND RESPECT THE POLICE OFFICERS TO HELP OUT WHEN IT COMES VERY SERIOUS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND EVERYONE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR THAT AND HAVING IT IN PLACE.
I MEAN, WHEN I WAS TALKING WITH MR. SHAW AND STUFF LIKE THAT, I MEAN, I HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS.
UM, I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE SCHOOL LOCKS, LIKE BEAVER CREEK HAS ON THE DOORS.
I WASN'T THINKING NECESSARILY AT SPORTING EVENTS, BUT I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, IN CLASSROOMS, THEY RAISED MONEY, THEY DID FUNDRAISERS TO GET THOSE LOCKS ON ALL THE DOORS.
IT TOOK A WHILE, BUT THEY NOW HAVE 'EM IN PLACE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING AS A COMMUNITY WE CAN PURSUE FOR WHILE KIDS ARE IN CLASSROOMS. UM, I'M SITTING HERE WITH A FOUR YEAR OLD TRYING TO DECIDE IF I'M KEEPING HER AT ST.
PETE'S NEXT YEAR OR SENDING HER TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
AND SAFETY IS MY NUMBER ONE LOOK AT RIGHT NOW.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SEND HER OFF THAT SHE'S COMING BACK HOME TO MY HOUSE SAFE.
SO, UM, I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF WHATEVER YOU GUYS COME UP WITH.
YOU GUYS ARE THE EXPERTS AT THIS, BUT YOU HAVE MY BACKING.
UM, I'LL WORK AT WHATEVER YOU NEED DONE.
IF YOU GUYS DECIDE TO GO WITH SOME KINDA LOCK OR SOMETHING SPECIAL, I WILL BE PART OF WHATEVER FUNDRAISERS WE NEED TO DO OR WHATEVER ELSE TO GET THAT DONE.
UM, BUT YEAH, I, I'M LOOKING AT SAFETY BESIDES THAT.
I ALSO AM LOOKING AT, I LIVE ON ALTAR, SO I HAVE ST.
AND THE, I AM SHOCKED THAT NO KID HAS GOTTEN HIT BY A CAR, HOW PEOPLE SPEED DON'T ALTER BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL.
MISS THE STOP SIGN THAT'S THERE AT HEMINGWAY AND ALTAR, JUST GO THROUGH IT.
SO I THINK ALL OF THIS NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT, NOT JUST GUN SAFETY AT SPORTING EVENTS.
DON, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YES, SIR.
UM, SCHOOL SAFETY COLLABORATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
SCHOOL SAFETY IS SUCH A BROAD SUBJECT, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR BOARD AND YOUR STAFF HAVE ALREADY TAKEN STEPS TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO MANAGEABLE CHUNKS.
SO DO YOU SEE, UM, THE OVERALL SCHOOL SAFETY AS DIFFERENT BLOCKS OF PROJECTS THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE, UM, TAKE ACTION ON? IN OTHER WORDS, LIKE STARTING WITH EVENTS AND THEN MOVING ON TO BUILDING SAFETY AND SO FORTH? OR ARE YOU LOOKING AT MORE OF AN OVERALL APPROACH? I, I WOULD JUST SAY THIS IS, SCHOOL SAFETY IS COMPREHENSIVE IN NATURE, AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT NEW TO RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS EVERY YEAR TO SUBMIT SAFETY PLANS AND DO DRILLS AND BE A PART OF THOSE COMPREHENSIVE EFFORTS EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
WHAT, WHAT'S BROUGHT THIS TO THE TABLE, OF COURSE, ARE CERTAIN EVENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED.
UM, AND, AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A SCHOOL DAY, YOU'RE PR YOU'RE PRIMARILY DEALING ONLY WITH OUR STUDENTS AND STAFF COMING IN THE BUILDINGS WHEN YOU HAVE LARGE EVENTS
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AND CLEARLY A WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL GAME, BASKETBALL GAMES, SOMETIMES A TRACK MEETS ARE LARGE SCALE EVENTS.THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT KIND OF MINDSET OF HOW TO OPERATE UNDER SAFETY AND SECURITY THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL WALLS OF A SCHOOL BUILDING.
BUT REGARDLESS, IT'S STILL A, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PART OF WHAT WE DO EVERY, EVERY YEAR AND HAVE, HAVE TO PREPARE FOR IT.
I SEE IT COMPREHENSIVELY, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU DO HAVE THE SCHOOL DAY PERSPECTIVE, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE HAVE AN EVENT FROM SICK, GATES OPEN AT SIX 30 AND IT'S UNTIL 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'VE GOT 3000 PEOPLE THERE.
IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT KIND OF AT VENUE TO, TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EVENTS, UH, SAFETY AND SECURITY IS, IS TAKEN CARE OF.
AND IT'S, AND THEN AGAIN, NOTHING NEW.
IT'S JUST HOW DO WE TAKE EVENTS AND, YOU KNOW, ADD TO IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW OF, OF SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR, AGAIN, STUDENTS AND STAFF AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, ALL ANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE PRESENT.
I THINK THAT ONE IN FRONT OF YOU WORKS TOO.
YOU JUST LEAVE ONE ON ONE SIDE AND ONE ON THE OTHER.
UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
I THINK THAT, THAT DEALING WITH THE SRO IS YOU FOR MAJOR EVENTS, IS, IS, IS THE WAY TO ADDRESS THAT SUBJECT.
BUT I LIKED MANY ON, ON COUNCIL ARE, ARE CONCERN WITH THE DAY TO DAY SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN.
SO I, I WOULD LIKE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, IF YOU COULD SHARE WITH US, UH, WHAT INITIATIVES YOU HAVE IN THE WORKS TO SECURE THE CHILDREN, UM, BETTER IN THE, IN THE BUILDING ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS TO, YOU KNOW, TO BLOCK UP ROOMS OR WHATEVER ELSE IN CASE OF AN INCIDENT AND TO PROTECT THEM WHEN THEY ARE COMING AND LEAVING SCHOOL.
BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM IS NOT LIMITED TO ONE SCHOOL.
AND I MEAN, I'VE WITNESSED PEOPLE TOTALLY DISREGARDING THE TRAFFIC GUARDS AND THE CHILDREN ALMOST GETTING HIT.
SO, AND THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON LONG BEFORE YOU CAME HERE, MR. RE IT'S BECAUSE I VOLUNTEER HERE FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS, AND IT'S BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS SINCE I STOPPED, AND IT HASN'T IMPROVED.
SO IT'S NOT A NEW PROBLEM, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT I'M JUST AMAZED NO CHILD'S GOTTEN HURT, UH, SEVERELY AS A RESULT OF IT.
AND, UH, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK, THERE ARE GRANTS OUT THERE TO HELP FUND THE INITIATIVES LIKE LOCKS AND, AND JUST SAFE SCHOOLS.
ARE, ARE YOU PURSUING ANY OF THOSE? THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT TO THOSE QUESTIONS.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE DO HAVE A VERY COMPREHENSIVE SAFETY AND SECURITY PROGRAM.
UH, AGAIN, IT IT, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S A, IT'S KIND OF THE BUZZWORD AND THE HOT TOPIC RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT, THIS HAS BEEN A HOT TOPIC IN EDUCATION FOR MY ENTIRE CAREER.
UM, SO WE, WE DO HAVE A SERIES OF PRACTICES, PROCEDURES, THINGS THAT WE CAN'T REALLY TELL YOU, AND NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO, BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE PART OF OUR SECURITY PLANNING.
SO WE CAN'T REALLY GET INTO A LOT OF THE DETAILS OF HOW WE ADDRESS CERTAIN DRILLS AND PROCEDURES.
IT IT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT'S A, IT'S REQUIRED BY LAW.
WE HAVE TO SUBMIT THESE AND THEY HAVE TO BE REVIEWED ON A REGULAR BASIS, BUILDING BY BUILDING AND, AND DISTRICT-WIDE, UH, WE DO TRAININGS WITH, WITH STAFF THROUGH PUBLIC SCHOOLWORKS.
WE HAVE, HAVE OUR SAFETY AND SECURITY PERSONNEL AS WELL AS POLICE OFFICERS ARE A PART OF TRAINING FOR STAFF.
UM, AGAIN, NONE OF THIS REALLY, REALLY IS NEW AS FAR AS NEW INITIATIVES.
I WILL TELL YOU, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH RELATIVELY NEW BUILDINGS, AND WE CAN'T REALLY SAY THEY'RE NEW ANYMORE, RIGHT? THEY'RE RELATIVELY NEW, BUT THEY'RE STILL FAIRLY STATE OF THE ART.
UM, AND, AND THE, THE TECHNOLOGY THAT GOES INTO NEW CONSTRUCTION REALLY PROVIDES GREAT OPPORTUNITIES TO EVEN ADD TO ALREADY GOOD SECURITY.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AGING BUILDINGS AND LOCKING MECHANISMS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, IT'S CERTAINLY A WAY TO ADD ANOTHER LAYER OF SECURITY, YOU KNOW, BUT ALL OF OUR DOORS ARE THAT THEY HAVE LOCKS ON THEM AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT EASY TO GET INTO AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
WHAT, WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT CAME OUT I THINK REALLY OUT OF LAST, LAST SPRING WITH WHAT HAPPENED ALREADY, WERE PROPPED DOORS.
THAT HAS BEEN A VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANT POINT OF EMPHASIS.
AND I WOULD TELL YOU, I DON'T BELIEVE A DOOR THAT'S PROPPED HAS EVER DONE OUT OF, YOU KNOW, MEANNESS OR SPITE.
THE PROBLEM IS WHEN DOORS ARE PROPPED, THEY'RE PROPPED AND THEY'RE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
AND WE CAN'T KEEP SECURE BUILDINGS IF THE DOORS ARE NOT COMPLETELY LOCKED AS THE WAY THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE.
SO THERE'S ACTUALLY TECHNOLOGY THAT IT WILL NOTIFY IF A DOOR IS PROPPED
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FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, IT WILL NOTIFY PRINCIPLES.WE CAN CHECK THAT, UH, MR. DOLLER AND, AND MR. FORD, OUR SECURITY AND BUSINESS OPERATIONS, UH, ROUTINELY OUT IN THE BUILDINGS CHECKING ON SECURITY AND DOORS AND, AND MAKING SURE IF THE DOOR'S PROPPED OPEN, THERE'S A REAL PROBLEM.
AND, AND IF WE CAN DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT TO, TO WHAT'S CAUSING THAT TO BE THE CASE.
AND SOMETIMES ACCIDENTAL, SOMETIMES IT'S A FAILURE IN SOME WAY THAT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED.
BUT REGARDLESS, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AND ARE PRIORITIES RIGHT NOW BECAUSE COMING INTO THE BUILDING THROUGH SECURE ENTRY, UH, FOLLOWING PROTOCOLS OF GETTING INTO THE BUILDING AS VISITORS, UM, THAT, THAT'S EVEN BECOME MORE OF A HEIGHTENED SENSE OF AWARENESS AND, AND, AND CERTAINTY, I SHOULD SAY.
UM, PARTICULARLY WHAT HAPPENED AFTER LAST MAY.
SO, UH, AS FAR AS NEW INITIATIVES NOT, I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S ANYTHING NEW.
IT'S REALLY A MATTER OF CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE ARE DOING BECAUSE WE'VE GOT REALLY GOOD PLANS IN PLACE AND WAYS THAT WE CAN, CAN CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND, AND SUPPORT THE SAFETY OF STUDENTS WHILE THEY'RE INSIDE OUR BUILDING.
UH, YOU TALK ABOUT LEAVING THE BUILDING AND OR COMING INTO THERE, THAT OPENS UP A WHOLE OTHER SET OF FACTORS THAT IN SOME WAYS ARE OUTSIDE OF A SCHOOL DISTRICT'S CONTROL, UH, CAN'T REALLY ADDRESS, UH, SPEEDING ON THE, ON THE ROADS OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DETERRENTS BY, BY OFFICERS AND DEALING WITH SECURITY GUARDS.
BUT THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS FIX IT EITHER.
SO, YOU KNOW, AT THE BUILDING LEVEL, YOU, OUR PRINCIPAL ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WORKING WITH OUR SAFETY AND SECURITY PERSONNEL TO MAKE SURE THAT ENTRY INTO THE BUILDINGS AND EXIT OUT OF THE BUILDINGS IS, YOU KNOW, MANAGING CARS AND, UH, PICKUP LINES AND BUSES AND WALKERS AND ALL OF THAT IS KIND OF THIS CHOREOGRAPHED PROCESS.
UM, BUT WHEN YOU'VE GOT 1700 STUDENTS AT WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL LEAVING ALL AT THE SAME TIME, OR 700 STUDENTS OVER AT WRIGHT BROTHERS THAT ARE, ARE LEAVING, THAT'S, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON AT THE END OF A SCHOOL DAY.
SO I THINK ENSURING SOMETHING VERSUS CREATING THE BEST OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR SAFETY IS ARE, THERE MAY BE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS CUZ I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE CAN EVER, EVER ENSURE ANYTHING.
WHAT WE CAN DO IS CREATE THE BEST OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR SAFETY.
AND ON SOME LEVEL THERE BECOMES SOME PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY AS WELL, OR PARENTS BEING A PART OF THAT AS WELL.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION VERY WELL.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PRETTY, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PROCEDURES THAT ARE PUT IN PLACE THAT HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED AND, AND APPROVED BY THE STATE AND, AND HANDLING, UH, ALL THINGS RELATED TO SAFETY AND SECURITY AND BUILDINGS.
AND AGAIN, MUCH OF THAT IS CONFIDENTIAL BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, CONFIDENTIALITY.
DID YOUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SRO INCLUDE ANY IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO HANDLE THE PARENTS, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT THAT, THE SPEEDING, THE CUTTING IN LINE, THE LEAVING THEIR CARS, ALL THE THINGS THAT CREATE HAZARDS.
THAT HAS NOT BEEN PART OF OUR CONVERSATIONS THIS YEAR AT THIS POINT.
AT LEAST NOT THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH.
IT DOESN'T MEAN IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AT THE BUILDING LEVEL BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, PRINCIPALS ARE REALLY HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH THE ENTRY AND EXIT PROCEDURES AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE MADE FOR, YOU KNOW, ADJUSTMENTS ARE MADE REGULARLY.
IF YOU NEVER DO SOMETHING BETTER, YOU MAKE YOU DO SOMETHING BETTER.
UM, BUT THAT, THOSE ARE NOT PART OF DISCUSSIONS I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH DIRECTLY.
UH, TO HOPEFULLY SOMEWHAT, UH, PUT A, UH, A BOW ON THIS TOPIC AND KIND OF WRAP IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
I'VE HEARD SOME SERIOUS DISCUSSION HERE, UM, AND, UH, THAT A, A DEFINITELY A SECOND SRO OFFICER IS AS NEEDED AT, AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.
AND I, I WOULD DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT.
UM, IF NOT EVEN MAYBE A, UH, AN ADDITIONAL ROAMING ONE FOR OUR ELEMENTARIES.
UM, ONE THAT CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, BE ON STANDBY IF AN INCIDENT DOES TAKE PLACE AT, UH, WEISSENBORN OR, OR WAYNE.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, UM, BRIAN, WHAT, UM, WHAT WOULD YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION STARTED WITH, UH, CHIEF LEITNER, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD ON WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO HAVE A SECOND SRO OFFICER UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S TRAINING THAT TAKES PLACE, UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY A LATERAL, YOU KNOW, HIRE COULD BE DONE IF THOSE SKILL SETS DO EXIST.
UM, WHAT WOULD YOU PERCEIVE TO BE A TIMELINE AND A, UM, A WAY FORWARD TO, TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN AND, AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION STARTED WITH, UH, MR. INS AND HIS STAFF? WELL, WE'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAPPY TO EXECUTE THE, THE WILL AND POLICY OF COUNSEL, UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT MATTER.
WE HAVE HAD INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UM, THE ABILITY TO ADD ADDITIONAL, UH, RESOURCE OFFICERS.
UH, BUT WITH RESPECT TO A SPECIFIC TIMELINE, UH, WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO COMMENT ON THAT AT THIS POINT.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE WITH REGARD TO, UH, OTHER VACANCIES AND OTHER POSITIONS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, WHICH ALSO NEED TO BE FILLED.
SO, WHILE I CAN'T COMMENT ON THAT SPECIFICALLY AT THIS TIME, I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP, UH, EARLY NEXT WEEK, UH, ONCE I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH, UH, THE HUMAN RESOURCES FOLKS AS WELL AS WITH, UH, CHIEF LEITNER ABOUT
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WHERE WE ARE IN THE VARIOUS, UH, VARIOUS PROCESSES WE CURRENTLY HAVE OPEN.UH, AND ONCE WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION, WE CAN FOLLOW UP, UH, WITH A MORE SPECIFIC TIMELINE, UH, AND NEXT STEPS, UH, TO FACILITATE, UH, ADDITIONAL RESOURCE OFFICERS IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE SCHOOL IS OPEN TO, UH, TO SUPPORTING AS WELL.
UH, I THINK ANOTHER TOPIC OF CONVERSATION WOULD BE, AND, AND I DID, UM, HAVE THIS BRIEFLY WITH THE MAYOR AS WELL, UM, IS EN UH, ENGAGING IN MORE OF A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH, UH, WITH OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, ESPECIALLY A LOT OF THOSE LARGE SKILL EVENTS, MR. ENS, LIKE YOU TALK ABOUT, UH, WHICH, UH, WE KNOW THAT OUR COMMUNITY IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT IS, IS GOOD FOR.
UM, SO WHEN WE DO KNOW THAT THOSE LARGE EVENTS ARE GOING ON, UM, TO HELP US SOME OF OUR, UM, OUR BEAT OFFICERS, UM, AROUND TOWN TO BE ABLE TO BE AT ATTENDANCE AT SOME OF THOSE LARGE SCALE EVENTS, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO ENGAGE THE COLLABORATION OF OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO DO SOME, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE PATROLLING OF SOME OF THE BOUNDARY AREAS OF OUR COMMUNITY TO ALLOW SOME OF OUR OFFICERS TO BE ON SITE THERE MORE.
UM, I THINK A CONVERSATION WITH SHERIFF STR TO, UH, TO ALLEVIATE, UH, AND ENGAGE SOME OF THAT, NOT ONLY WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT THE COMMUNITY I THINK IS DEFINITELY A GOOD WAY FORWARD, UH, TO SEE WHAT THAT, UH, COULD LOOK LIKE, UH, SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
MAYBE MORE OF A LONG TERM AGREEMENT AS WELL.
UM, ONE OF THE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS I HEARD, AND, AND I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY AT SOME OF OUR OTHER, UH, JOINT MEETINGS, IS, UH, SOME OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW CONCERNS, THE, THE, THE, UM, SPEEDING CONCERNS, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT TURN IN RIGHT TURNOUT SCENARIOS THAT SOME OF OUR, OUR SCHOOLS.
UM, IS, IS THAT A POLICY THAT, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A TRAFFIC PLAN WE NEED TO LOOK AT AGAIN? UH, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UM, UH, THAT MR. ENIX, YOU BELIEVE, UM, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE MORE OF A DIRECT APPROACH WITH THE CITY MANAGER, UH, TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IF A TARGETED ENFORCEMENT, UH, NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE AT SOME OF THESE SCHOOLS.
UM, I, I GUESS, WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM SOME OF YOUR ADMINISTRATORS ON THINGS THAT WE COULD TAKE PLACE, UH, TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE ISSUES FROM YOUR PRINCIPALS AND YOUR SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS? YOU, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S ANYTIME YOU'RE GONNA BRING, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL FIRST, THE BIGGEST BUILDING IN THE DISTRICT, AND THERE'S NO BUSING.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF VEHICLE TRAFFIC ON ROADS THAT ARE PROBABLY NOT DESIGNED TO HANDLE THAT.
WHEN YOU ADD ANOTHER LAYER OF COMPLEXITY WITH CONSTRUCTION AND IT'S IMPACTED, UH, PARKING LOTS AND THE BUILD ABILITY TO MOVE AROUND THE CAMPUS, THAT, THAT WAS AN AREA OF CONCERN WHEN THAT HAPPENED.
AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE UNTIL THAT CONSTRUCTION IS OVER.
SO I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU SEE IN THE FIRST COUPLE WEEKS OF SCHOOL, AND IT'S ALWAYS NATURAL AS YOU, AS PEOPLE START TO GET IN THE FLOW OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE EVERY DAY, YOU'RE GONNA SEE BACKUPS AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE DELAYS.
BUT IN LARGER PLACES LIKE THAT, IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE SOME LEVEL OF TRAFFIC CONCERN.
UM, ADDITIONAL WAYS OF ENFORCING, UH, SCHOOL ZONE SPEEDS WOULD, WOULD CERTAINLY BE HELPFUL.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT TURN IN RIGHT TURNOUT IN SOME LOCATIONS IS CERTAINLY A WAY TO ASSIST WITH TRAFFIC FLOW TOO.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE THAT LOG JAM, I THINK I'VE NOT HEARD THAT BEING A CONCERN.
UH, NO ONE'S BROUGHT THAT TO, TO ATTENTION.
SO SOMETIMES YOU DON'T HEAR A WHOLE LOT, YOU JUST KIND OF ASSUME MAYBE IT'S GOING OKAY.
UM, BUT NO, I, I THINK IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, ABLE TO, TO SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS LIKE GETTING, I MEAN, MOST IMPORTANTLY FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IS GETTING KIDS INTO SCHOOL SAFELY IS A TOP PRIORITY.
YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S ON A BUS, WHETHER THAT'S WALKERS, OR WHETHER THAT'S BEING DROPPED OFF BY CARS, RIGHT? AND, AND OF COURSE GETTING THEM OFFSITE IS JUST EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GETTING KIDS ALL ON AT ONE TIME, IT, IT'S, IT'S A, A CHOREOGRAPHED EFFORT, ESPECIALLY THE LARGER THE BUILDINGS.
AND YOU HAVE TO JUST LIKE, JUST LIKE KIDS, YOU HAVE TO TRAIN PEOPLE ON HOW TO DO IT, RIGHT? AND THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE RELIANT UPON FOLKS TO, TO BE, YOU KNOW, WILLING TO FOLLOW THOSE PATTERNS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED.
AND AGAIN, WHETHER THAT'S OUR BUILDING PRINCIPLES, WHETHER IT'S OUR OPERATIONS, OUR SAFETY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS, IS BEING LOOKED AT, REVIEWED AND, AND ADJUSTED AS NECESSARY.
AND, AND THERE ARE ADJUSTMENTS ON THE FLY THAT DO HAPPEN.
SO I THINK SUPPORT FOR THAT IS, IS GREAT.
UM, BUT THERE ARE ALSO LIMITATIONS.
AND, AND I'VE HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS SUCH AS INCREASED NO PARKING SIGNS IN SOME OF THE, UM, COMMUNITY TIMES, UM, YOU KNOW, BEFORE SCHOOL, AFTER SCHOOL DURING THAT TIME TO TRY TO CUT DOWN ON SOME OF THAT ON STREET PARKING.
UM, I'VE ALSO HEARD OF, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME MORE RESTRICTED, UM, AREAS OF, UM, SCHOOL SPEED LIMITS, UH, WITHIN SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO HELP DECREASE SOME OF THAT, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL SIGNS.
UM, I KNOW AS A COUNCILWOMAN BURGE, UM, I MENTIONED SOME GRANTS FOR SAFETY SIGNAGE AND CERTAIN RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS THAT HAVE L E D LIGHTS THAT ARE MORE, YOU KNOW, CATCH THE EYE OF THOSE DRIVERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, UM, UH, THAT, UH, I, I THINK DEFINITELY FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE WE CAN LOOK AT, UH, AS FAR AS SIGNS AND AND LIGHTS, UM, AND SOME OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, HIGH YIELD AREAS TO TRY TO IN, YOU KNOW, INCREASE AWARENESS.
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UM, SO, SO MARY, THAT WOULD BE MY TWO TAKEAWAY POINTS.UM, THAT, UH, I, I THINK, UH, AT LEAST OUR COUNCIL COULD MOVE ON TO ASSIST THE SCHOOL BOARD, UM, AND, UH, AND LEAVE THE FINE TUNE TOPICS TO UH, UH, OUR CITY MANAGER AND THE SUPERINTENDENT TO WORK THAT OUT.
UH, BUT THAT DEFINITELY HAS MY SUPPORT OF MOVING FORWARD.
I THINK SO, AND THERE HAS BEEN COLLABORATION THINGS THAT HAVE, THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON.
I KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, MS. RES AND I HAD TALKED A WHILE, BACK AGO WE HAD, UM, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S THE LATE START WEDNESDAYS HAS KIND OF BEEN A, A CHANGE NOW THAT THAT WAS GOING ON.
SO WHEN PEOPLE GET USED TO THE DIFFERENT SCHOOL HOURS IN THE MORNING, BUT NOW WHEN YOU HAVE SCHOOL THAT STARTS LATER AT 10 O'CLOCK, WE WEREN'T SURE HOW ARE PEOPLE GONNA FOLLOW THOSE SCHOOL ZONES AND THE SPEED LIMITS DURING THAT TIMEFRAME.
SO, UH, MR. ENIX ADDRESSED THAT CONCERN TO ME AND I GOT WITH BRIAN, AND, UH, WE WERE LOOKING AT, EVEN IF WE HAD TO MANUALLY GO THROUGH AND CHANGE THOSE ELECTRONIC SCHOOL SIGNS, UM, THAT WOULD THEN BE UP FOR THOSE SCHOOL ZONE FLASHINGS ON THOSE DATES.
SO THE SCHOOL PROVIDED THE CALENDAR, THOSE SPECIFIC DATES AND WHAT THOSE CHANGES WERE, THAT INFORMATION WAS GIVEN TO MS. KOWSKI.
AND THEN LOOKING AT THAT APP TO BE IMPLEMENTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNEW ON THOSE DAYS THAT SCHOOL WAS STARTING LATER.
WE STILL HAD SCHOOL ZONES AND SPEED LIMITS DURING THOSE TIMES BECAUSE THEY WERE LATER THAN WHAT THE NORMAL TIMES WORK.
SO, SO THERE ARE, THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAPPEN WHEN THEY COME UP AND WE THINK ABOUT IT AND, OH, THERE'S SOMETHING NEW THAT WE WEREN'T FAMILIAR WITH BECAUSE OF A CHANGE.
I THINK WE ARE SHOWING SOME, UH, COLLABORATION THERE ON GETTING SOME OF THESE NEW THINGS IMPLEMENTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S SAFE.
CUZ AGAIN, WE, WE ALL UNDERSTAND SAFETY IS THE KEY.
SO I THINK UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING ELSE ON THE, UH, ON THE SAFETY COLLABORATION ISSUE, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
I THINK IT'S PRETTY WELL KNOWN, UH, HERE THAT EVERYBODY IN THIS COUNCIL SUPPORTS WHATEVER EFFORTS WE NEED TO DO, UH, TO HELP THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IMPLEMENT WHATEVER PLANS ARE NECESSARY.
BUT IT'S GOING TO BE THE SCHOOL'S PLANS, NOT THE CITY'S PLANS.
AND, UH, BRIAN IS AWARE AND, AND KNOWS WHAT OUR INTENTION IS.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BE INHERENT FOR THIS COUNCIL TO, UH, CERTAINLY GIVE THAT AUTHORITY TO BRIAN TO WORK WITH, UH, WITH MR. ENIX TO, TO COME UP WITH WHAT THOSE SOLUTIONS ARE AND THEN WORK OUT A WAY TO IMPLEMENT THEM.
AND WE HAVE THE, THE FULL SUPPORT OF, OF CITY COUNCILS.
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WOULD SEE, UM, THIS HEADED.
SO UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEXT TIME, GUESS GLEN, I JUST WANTED TO QUICK QUESTION TO SEE IF MEMORY SERVE CORRECTLY, BUT I WANNA SAY WE AL ALREADY, WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION EARLIER THIS YEAR ABOUT, AND BRIAN CORRECT ME IF I'M, IF I'M WRONG OR ANYONE ELSE, BUT I THINK WE WERE DISCUSSING PUTTING MORE MONEY INTO THE BUDGET FOR ANOTHER SRO ALREADY.
SO YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT THAT HAS ALREADY, THAT LEGISLATION HAS ALREADY BEEN PASSED.
SO THERE IS, BECAUSE THAT, THAT WAS MORE OF A, UM, NOT A FINANCIAL, IT WAS MORE, YEAH, IT WAS MORE OF A, OF A PERSONNEL ISSUE FROM THE TIMING PERSPECTIVE.
UM, CUZ MR. ANSLEY REQUESTED COULD, WAS IT, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GET THAT SRO INTO THE SCHOOLS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR MM-HMM.
BECAUSE, UH, AS MR. CHARLOTTE ALLUDED TO A LITTLE BIT AGO, YEAH, THERE'S THE TRAINING, MAYBE THERE'S A LOT OF ENTRY PROGRAM AND WE FIND SOMEONE WHO HAS THOSE SKILLS AS AN SRO THAT WE COULD JUST HIRE DIRECTLY OR IS IT SOMETHING WE GOTTA GO THROUGH THAT TRAINING ON.
BUT I THINK OUTSIDE OF THE SRO THAT IS SLATED TO START IN JANUARY NOW, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL CORRECT.
I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YEAH, BUT THAT FUNDING HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE AND THAT THAT NEW SRO SLATE TO START IN JANUARY AND WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE COLLABORATION AND THE OFFER AND EVERYBODY'S 2 CENTS ON THE SUBJECT.
IT'S, IT'S BEEN A TOPIC FOR A WHILE.
LIKE, LIKE JASON SAID, IT'S, IT'S EVERYDAY TOPIC.
IT'S NOT JUST WHEN INCIDENTS HAPPEN, IT'S KIND OF A, YOU'RE ALWAYS FILLING IN THE GAPS AND PLUGGING THE HOLES AND IT NEVER ENDS AND YOU JUST DO YOUR BEST AND KEEP PUSHING FORWARD.
NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO CITY GROWTH
[ City Growth And Impact On Huber Heights City Schools]
AND IMPACT.UM, MR. ENOCHS, IS THIS THE SLIDE TIME TO GO OVER SOME NUMBERS? YEAH, BUT MAYBE IT'S, MAYBE IT STARTS A LITTLE BIT WITH JUST THE, I KNOW MR. GORE AND I HAVE TALKED NUMEROUS OCCASIONS ABOUT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY AND, YOU KNOW, THERE IS AN IMPACT ON, ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TOO.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANNA KICK THIS OFF MR. GORE, BUT IT'S PROBABLY BOTH OF US HAVE A ROLE IN THIS AND I DO HAVE SOME THINGS TO SHARE WITH, UH, WITH COUNCIL TONIGHT THAT, UM, OUR BOARD HAS BEEN, UH, AWARE OF ALL, ALL YEAR LONG, BUT MAYBE NOT, NOT FROM THE COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE.
SO, WELL, I THINK FROM A GROWTH, FROM A GROWTH PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, HE HEIGHTS IS GROWING, UH, OVER THE LAST, UM, YOU KNOW, WELL, WE KNOW FROM THE LAST 10 YEARS OVER THE LAST CENSUS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS BEEN GROWING.
SO WE ARE, UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, OR WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO THINK IS BASED ON CENSUS DATA, WE ARE A, A CITY NOW THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO MOVE TO NOT MOVE AWAY FROM.
AND I THINK WE WANNA KEEP THAT BECAUSE CERTAINLY, SO WHAT THE BOTTOM LINE ON ALL THIS BECOMES IS ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE, THE, THE, THE SCHOOLS ARE FUNDED
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BASED OFF OF WHAT THE PROPERTY VALUES ARE.HOMEOWNERS ARE HAPPY WHEN THEIR PROPERTY VALUES ARE STEADY.
YOU DON'T LIKE AS MUCH WHEN THEY INCREASE BECAUSE, BECAUSE THE PROPERTY TAXES, BUT MAKING SURE PROPERTY VALUES ARE ARE STABLE.
UH, AND, AND, AND GROWTH IS KIND OF, IS A KEY TO THAT TO KEEP REFRESHING AND GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO AGE IN PLACE AND DIFFERENT HOUSING OPTIONS.
SO WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GROWING AND WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT HUB HEIGHTS AS, AS A FIRST OPTION NOW, NOT A SECOND, THIRD, OR FOURTH OPTION.
AND I THINK THAT HELPS US, BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY CHALLENGES THAT COME ALONG WITH THAT AS WELL.
AND I THINK WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF WHAT THOSE CHALLENGES ARE AND THEN WORK TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT, UH, HOW WE HELP EACH OTHER THROUGH, THROUGH THOSE CHALLENGES.
UM, BUT I THINK WE'RE HAPPY THAT THE CITY'S GROWING.
THAT MEANS, AGAIN, WE ARE, UH, A POPULAR COMMUNITY IN THE COUNTY AND, AND PEOPLE WANNA LIVE HERE, PEOPLE WANNA MOVE HERE.
UH, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THOSE CHALLENGES THAT, THAT BRINGS AS WELL? SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF MY TAKE.
SO YEAH, IF YOU'VE GOT, IF YOU'VE GOT SLIDES AND OKAY, SO DATA THEN YEAH, HQ SD, RIGHT? I'D LIKE TO HELP, UH, HELP THE CITY COUNCIL AND THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING, UH, JUST THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE, WHERE WE ARE AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT IN RELATION TO THIS VERY TOPIC OF GROWTH AND HOW IT'S IMPACTING OUR DIFFERENT DISTRICT.
UM, WE'LL START WITH SOME ENROLLMENT DATA.
AND THIS IS A, A SLIDE THAT I'VE SHARED WITH THE, WITH THE BOARD AND, AND OUR BOARD MEETINGS BEGINNING, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF AGO OR SO, THIS IS A LOT OF NUMBERS, OKAY, LET ME HELP YOU NAVIGATE THE NUMBERS.
THIS IS HISTORICAL ENROLLMENT DATA FROM 20 17 20 18 THROUGH PRESENT YEAR.
WHAT'S PROBABLY IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT FIRST AND FOREMOST IS THE COLOR CODED, FOLLOW THE COLORS DIAGONALLY AND YOU'RE FOLLOWING CLASSES OF KIDS AS THEY COME THROUGH THROUGH THE, THE SCHOOL YEARS.
UM, SO WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS, AND I'LL, I'LL USE THE CURRENT SOPHOMORES MAYBE AS A, AS AN EXAMPLE JUST TO PICK ONE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THAT, THAT CLASS OF STUDENTS IN 20 17, 20 18, THE RED NUMBERS INDICATE THAT THERE WAS 420 STUDENTS IN THAT CLASS.
IF YOU FOLLOW THAT NUMBER, YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE, HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THAT CLASS OF STUDENTS MATRICULATING THROUGH THE DISTRICT ALL THE WAY UP TO THIS YEAR'S CLASS THAT'S CURRENTLY SITTING AT 5 0 2.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE A NUMBER OF 4 98.
THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT 2223 NUMBERS THERE.
THE FIRST ONE IS REALLY MORE OF A START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR NUMBER ABOUT A WEEK OR SO IN.
AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING AT THE TOP LAYER IS WHERE WE ARE AS OF OCTOBER, UH, DURING THE COUNT TIME OF, UH, SECOND WEEK OF OCTOBER.
SO IT'S NATURAL TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A DROPOFF OF STUDENTS FROM START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR INTO THE, THE OCTOBER TIMEFRAME THAT'S REALLY ACCOUNTING FOR WHAT STUDENTS THAT ARE WITHDRAWING FROM SCHOOL OR WHATEVER OTHER FACTORS THAT YOU TYPICALLY, YOU SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A SMALLER NUMBER, UM, YOU KNOW, LATER ON.
AND THEN YOU JUST START THE SCHOOL YEAR.
THE OTHER THING IN THIS CHART, JUST TO KIND OF READ THROUGH IT, IS THAT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN THE DISTRICT OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME, AND I'VE HIGHLIGHTED A COUPLE OF AREAS, UM, THERE WAS SOME MODEST GROWTH FROM 1718 THROUGH 1920 SCHOOL YEAR AT, AT THAT POINT IN THE 1920 SCHOOL YEAR AT 5,600 STUDENTS.
THEN THE PANDEMIC HAPPENED, AND NEARLY EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT, OR AT LEAST EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT I'M AWARE OF, SAW A NATURAL DROP OFF IN STUDENT ENROLLMENT AS A RESULT OF THE PANDEMIC.
KIDS WENT HOMESCHOOL, THEY DID O OTHER OPTIONS, THEY WEREN'T ATTENDING WHATEVER THE CASE WAS.
AND SO FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, YOU'LL SEE 52, 41, 52 89 WAS LAST SCHOOL YEAR, AND SUDDENLY WE JUMP IN A HUGE WAY.
AND THAT WAS NOT ANTICIPATED, UH, IN LEADING UP TO THIS SCHOOL YEAR.
SO TO START THE YEAR WE WERE ALMOST 6,000, UH, AND THEN WE DROPPED OFF BY, YOU KNOW, 50 STUDENTS OR SO, UM, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE DISTRICT THROUGH WHAT WAS THE SECOND WEEK OF OCTOBER THAT REPRESENTS NOT ONLY A 300 STUDENT GROWTH FROM PRE PANDEMIC, BUT A 600 STUDENT GROWTH FROM LAST SCHOOL YEAR TO THIS SCHOOL YEAR.
AND YOU CAN SEE EVIDENCE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT AND IN THESE UPCOMING SLIDES, I'LL SHOW YOU ANOTHER PIECE BEFORE WE GET TO THAT THOUGH, IS THAT, THAT IT, THE NUMBERS TELL PART OF THE STORY.
THE OTHER PART OF THE STORY IS WHAT THOSE NUMBERS MEAN IN TERMS OF NEEDS.
UM, AT THE END OF 2122 SCHOOL YEAR, WE HAD 257 STUDENTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS ELL OR ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNERS.
THEY'RE CLASSIFIED IN DIFFERENT WAYS IN TERMS OF NON SPEAKERS OR THOSE THAT ARE BEING MONITORED.
UH, THEY CO ACROSS A CONTINUUM, BUT THERE WERE NEW ENROLLMENTS FOR THIS YEAR, TOTALING 81.
SO NOW THE TOTAL, UH, LANGUAGE OR ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNER NUMBERS ARE 3 59.
AND YOU MIGHT SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, THAT THAT MATH LOOKS A LITTLE FUNNY, THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.
OKAY, SO IT DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE MONITORING OF STUDENTS AS WELL.
SO THOSE NUMBERS ARE REAL NUMBERS OF STUDENTS THAT ARE ELL AND THAT DOES REQUIRE, UH, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, A AN ADDED LAYER OF SERVICE TO SUPPORT STUDENTS THAT ARE NOT ENGLISH SPEAKERS, BUT
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WE ARE SERVING IN OUR BUILDINGS EVERY SINGLE DAY.AGAIN, LOTS OF NUMBERS ON THIS SCREEN.
WHAT I TRY TO DO IS TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THAT BY USING SOME COLOR.
SO, UM, WHAT, THIS IS SOMETHING WE LOOK AT ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AT THE TOP YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, OUR HEAD COUNTS OF STUDENTS.
AGAIN, THIS GOES BACK TO THE SECOND WEEK OF OCTOBER, ACTUALLY THIS IS OCTOBER 18TH.
AND YOU CAN JUST SEE AT EVERY BUILDING FOR EVERY GRADE LEVEL AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL, HOW MANY STUDENTS WE HAVE IN EACH, EACH BUILDING, AND EACH GRADE LEVEL.
THE SECOND SET OF NUMBERS ARE THE NUMBER OF TEACHERS THAT ARE IN THOSE GRADE LEVELS.
AND WHAT THAT CALCULATES TO ON THE SPREADSHEET IS THE AVERAGE CLASS SIZE FOR EACH OF THOSE GRADE LEVELS FOR EVERY SINGLE BUILDING.
AND THEY'RE COLOR CODED BASED UPON SOME CONTRACTUAL LANGUAGE WE HAVE WITH OUR STAFF.
UM, AND IT GIVES US KIND OF THAT GREEN, YELLOW, RED MODEL OF WHERE'S THE RED, WHICH IS OUR MAJOR AREAS OF CONCERN.
YELLOW ARE CONCERNING AREAS, BUT NOT KIND OF VIOLATING SOME CONTRACT TYPE LANGUAGE IN GREEN.
WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.
AND SO WHAT YOU SEE IN THIS IS THAT THE, THE LOWER THE GRADE LEVELS, THE MORE CONCERNS WE HAVE WITH HIGHER CLASS SIZES.
UM, AND, AND THERE'S SOME OTHER NUANCES TO THIS TOO THAT, UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TALK MASTER SCHEDULE, MAYBE WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AT A LATER TIME.
BUT IN GENERAL, THESE NUMBERS DO SHOW THAT WE HAVE LARGE CLASS SIZES, PARTICULARLY KINDERGARTEN, FIRST, UM, THIRD GRADE'S A BIG, BIG NUMBERS AS WELL.
CURRENTLY AT WRIGHT BROTHERS ELEMENTARY, THAT'S WHERE WE SEE A, UH, YOU KNOW, 26, 25, 26 STUDENTS IN A CLASS IN KINDERGARTEN, UH, 26 TO 27 FIRST GRADERS.
THOSE ARE BIG NUMBERS FOR, FOR THOSE YOUNG, YOUNG STUDENTS.
SO THIS IS DATA WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT AND, AND, UM, REALLY HELPS TO LOOK AT WHAT THE FUTURE PLANNING NEEDS ARE.
UH, BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU GOTTA REMEMBER, WE ARE 600 STUDENTS MORE THAN LAST YEAR.
THOSE STUDENTS ARE SPREAD OUT ACROSS THE DISTRICT, BUT WHEN YOU ADD THOSE, THOSE STUDENTS, YOU SEE THESE KINDS OF CLASS SIZES THAT ARE LARGER THAN WHAT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE FOR OUR STUDENTS.
THIS, AGAIN, LOTS OF OTHER, I I'M SORRY, MR. GOR, GO AHEAD.
NO, IF, IF I COULD, SO ONE, JUST, SO, SO LOOKING AT THOSE NUMBERS, I THINK ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT HE HEIGHTS THAT WE ALL PROBABLY KNOW IS THAT, UM, SO IS THERE A WAY TO ACCOUNT FOR HOW MUCH IS BASED ON NEW, NEW GROWTH, NEW PEOPLE MOVING HERE, BUT IT, WHAT, WHERE MY BRAIN GOES WHEN I SEE YOUNGER GRADE LEVELS HAVING THOSE ISSUES IS I KNOW WE HAVE A COMMUNITY WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL, THEY DON'T MOVE AWAY.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL HERE, SO THEY'RE MOVING INTO ANOTHER HOME.
MAYBE THEY'RE STILL WITH THEIR PARENTS, MAYBE THEY'RE, UH, MOVING INTO AN APARTMENT, BUT WE HAVE YOUNGER PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE, THEY HAVEN'T MOVED AWAY, BUT NOW THEY'RE HAVING FAMILIES AND THEY'RE HAVING KIDS.
AND THAT YOUNGER GROUP OF, OF STUDENTS OR RECENTLY GRADUATED STUDENTS OR YOUNGER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVEN'T LEFT, ARE NOT HAVING FAMILIES.
SO IS THEIR WAY TO DIFFERENTIATE HOW MUCH IS BASED ON NEW GROWTH OR IS IT INTERNAL GROWTH FROM FAMILIES AND PEOPLE WHO, WHO HAVEN'T LEFT? BECAUSE YOU CAN, WELL, LOOK, I'M STILL HERE,
SO THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO JUST DON'T, THEY, THEY DON'T LEAVE, THEY DON'T GO OTHER PLACES.
SO, SO THERE'S, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND ONE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE MIDST OF ADDRESSING RIGHT NOW.
SO THERE ARE, YOU, YOU CAN DO SOME KIND OF SIMPLE CALCULATIONS OF WHAT NEW HOMES WOULD GENERALLY MEAN IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF STUDENTS PER HOME.
UM, THAT'S ONE WAY TO CALCULATE.
THAT'S REALLY ONLY ONE VARIABLE.
UM, WE ARE WORKING WITH A COMPANY, CROPPER GIS RIGHT NOW, UH, GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEMS. WE REALLY HAVE A KIND OF A NICHE MARKET FOR WORKING WITH K12, UH, K-12 ENTITIES IN LOOKING AT POPULATION AND ENROLLMENT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT.
THERE ARE MANY FACTORS TO CONSIDER THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF JUST NEW, NEW CONSTRUCTION.
AND YOU CAN RUN THROUGH 6, 7, 8 OF THOSE PRETTY QUICKLY WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT, UH, HOUSING STOCK, RENTAL PROPERTIES, HOME VALUES, THERE'S JUST LIVE BIRTH RATES.
UH, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE ALL DATA THAT CAN HELP CREATE PROJECTIONS.
AND SO WE ARE, WE CURRENTLY ARE WORKING WITH, UH, CROPPER GIS.
WE EXPECT THAT DATA TO COME IN SOMETIME IN DECEMBER AND PRESENT FOR THE BOARD OF EDUCATION AT THE, THE JANUARY BOARD MEETING.
WHAT THAT, THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS WHAT ARE WE SEEING RIGHT NOW THERE, THERE HAS BEEN NOT, NOT A SIGNIFICANT ENROLLMENT STUDY DONE.
UM, ARE WE SEEING AN ANOMALY OR ARE WE SEEING THE IMPACTS OF COVID RESPONSE AND RETURNING OR IS THIS PART OF ADDITIONAL GROWTH IN THE COMMUNITY? AGAIN, LOTS OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO THAT, THAT THOSE THAT ARE THE EXPERTS ARE GOING TO HELP, HELP CLARIFY FOR US, YOU KNOW, IT'S A 1, 2, 5, 10 YEAR KIND OF A MODEL OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE START TO PROJECT BECAUSE WE NEED THAT KIND OF PROJECTION TO START PLANNING FOR THE STAFFING
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NEEDS FOR THE DISTRICT, WHICH AS MOST THINGS GO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE FINANCIAL, UH, HEALTH OF THE DISTRICT AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT CHART WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE TO 2, 3, 4 YEARS FROM NOW THAT BOTTOM CHART.ARE THOSE YOUNGER STUDENTS, ARE THOSE NOW FILTERING THROUGH YEAH.
AND THEN MAYBE THE EARLIER YEARS GET GREENER
AND YOU KNOW, SO YEAH, THAT, SEEING THAT DATA LATER I THINK WILL BE, AND IT'LL BE A DIRECT FUNCTION OF WHAT THIS CHART LOOKS LIKE.
WHAT WAS, SO I, I'M MOVING ON TO A COUPLE OF OTHER QUICK THINGS.
I HATE TO INTERRUPT YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE AND ANSWER A QUESTION THAT ENGLISH EL CAN YOU QUANTIFY WHAT EL MEANS AGAIN? ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNERS? THEY ARE, SO THEY ARE OF ENGLISH DESCENT OR OF ANOTHER DIS DESCENT LEARNING ENGLISH STUDENTS THAT DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH OR THEY'RE ENGLISH, THEY'RE NOT BORN, NOT THE NATIVE LANGUAGE.
AND CAN YOU GO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE? UM, WHERE THERE, THE CLASSES, THE STAGNATED BACK THE WAY THAT ONE? YEP.
SO THE 10TH AND 11TH GRADE WHERE GOES DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
DO THEY GO TO THEIR CAREER CENTER? CORRECT.
NATURAL DECREASE AT THE JUNIOR, SENIOR LEVEL DUE TO CTC.
I, THE NEXT FEW SLIDES ARE ALL GOING TO HAVE SOME SIMILAR LOOKS TO THEM, SO WE WON'T SPEND A GREAT DEAL OF TIME ON ANY ONE, BUT THIS IS THE, THE COMPARATIVE LOOK AT THE SECONDARY LEVEL AT WHAT CLASS SIZES LOOK LIKE.
THEY'RE NOT BROKEN OUT IN THE SAME WAY THAT ELEMENTARY ARE BECAUSE IT'S BY CONTENT AREA.
LARGER CLASS SIZES ARE GONNA BE SEEN IN RED, YELLOW IS CAUTION, GREEN IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.
YOU'LL LOOK AT BLUE THAT KIND OF TAKE THE BLUE AND PUSH THAT OFF TO THE SIDE.
BY AND LARGE, THAT HAS TO DO WITH SPECIAL EDUCATION IN THE WAY THAT THOSE STUDENTS ARE, ARE CODED.
UM, AND IT DOESN'T REPRESENT THAT THAT'S JUST A, A SPECIFIC CLASS.
SO THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE, BUT PRIMARILY THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD SEE.
AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT CERTAIN THINGS THAT MOST OR EVERY STUDENT MUST TAKE, LIKE A PHYSICAL SCIENCE COURSE.
THESE ARE ALL OF OUR PHYSICAL SCIENCE CLASSES AT WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL.
UH, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THOSE AT THE 25, 26, 27 NUMBERS OF STUDENTS IN A CLASS.
AND FOR A LAB CLASS THAT'S LARGE, THAT'S VERY LARGE.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE LOOK AT BECAUSE AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO HOW WE ALLOCATE STAFFING AND WHAT KIND OF NEEDS FOR STAFFING.
WE HAVE TO KEEP THESE AT REASONABLE CLASS SIZES.
THIS IS, UH, BIOLOGY AND AGAIN, ANOTHER LAB CLASS.
AGAIN, YOU HAVE, YOU CERTAINLY SEE A SPRINKLING OF GREEN AND THAT'S A FUNCTION OF MASTER SCHEDULING, JUST KIND OF IN GENERAL.
BUT A LOT OF OUR CLASSES ARE IN THAT YELLOW RANGE AND EVEN IN ONE OF THOSE THAT IT'S IN, THAT'S IN RED, FRESHMAN ENGLISH, IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT.
SO AGAIN, YOU CAN REALLY FOCUS IN ON THE COLOR CODING A LITTLE BIT TO HELP SEE WHERE WE SEE LARGE CLASS SIZES IN REQUIRED COURSES, GEOMETRY, AND ANOTHER REQUIRED COURSE TESTED SUBJECT AREA.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT, AT WISE ANDOR, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT MODEL BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEIR SCHEDULE'S PUT TOGETHER.
AND EVERY STUDENT RUNS THROUGH SOME RELATED ARTS TYPES OF CLASSES.
UH, THESE ARE COMPUTER SCIENCE ONE AND TWO, AS WELL AS DESIGN AND MODELING.
THESE ARE REQUIRED COURSES THAT KIDS RUN THROUGH, UH, AS PART OF THEIR, THEIR SCHEDULE EVERY YEAR.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE ALL STUDENTS TAKING CLASSES OR, OR A PARTICULAR COURSE, YOU'LL SEE WHAT THOSE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT LARGE CLASS SIZE CLASS, MEANING GROUP OF STUDENTS AND DISPERSE IT OVER THE STAFF.
A NUMBER OF SECTIONS THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE AVAILABLE TO YOU, THAT'S WHERE THE CLASS SIZES GET LARGE.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR THAT TRIED TO ALLEVIATE A, A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM, AND PARTICULARLY AT WISE ANDOR.
THIS WAS, UH, A WAY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO, TO ADDRESS THIS ON SOME LEVEL IN AUGUST.
THESE WERE THE PHYSICAL SCIENCE COURSES THAT WERE, UM, THAT WERE BEING, BEING TAUGHT.
YOU CAN SEE WHAT THOSE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE AND HOW MANY RED SECTIONS THAT THERE WERE.
ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS TO THAT TO TRY TO MAKE THOSE CLASS SIZES MORE MANAGEABLE WAS THE TEACHER TOOK ON ADDITIONAL COURSES OF THE DAY.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, GAVE UP THE PLANNING TIME THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE FOR GRADING, PLANNING, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, AND TAUGHT AN EXTRA SECTION.
SO INSTEAD OF TEACHING FIVE PERIODS A DAY, TAUGHT SIX, AND THERE IS NO PLANNING TIME FOR THAT TEACHER ANY LONGER.
BUT IT BROUGHT THE CLASS SIZES DOWN TO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A MANAGEABLE LEVEL FOR A LAB COURSE.
THAT'S THE KIND OF CREATIVITY AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T FORCE A STAFF MEMBER TO DO THAT.
THEY CHOSE TO DO THAT ON THEIR OWN BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THAT WAS THE BEST THING FOR, FOR STUDENTS IS TO HAVE 24 IN A CLASS INSTEAD OF 30.
AND THAT WAS, AGAIN, ONE WAY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE, UH, THE CLASS SIZE ISSUES THAT WE SAW AT WISE ANDMORE.
SO, WE'LL STOP THERE BECAUSE THIS GIVES YOU AT LEAST SOME INDICATION AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GROWTH IN THE CITY AND HOW THAT HAS AN IMPACT ON POTENTIALLY FUTURE ENROLLMENT OF THE DISTRICT.
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WE WE'RE AT OUR CURRENT STAFFING LEVELS, ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF NEEDED TO ADDRESS THAT.THOSE HIGHER NUMBERS OBVIOUSLY CREATES FINANCIAL, UH, CONSTRAINTS ON US AS WELL.
AND WE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE FINANCIAL THINGS AT ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM, BUT THAT JUST, I THINK IS, IT'S GOOD AWARENESS TO SEE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE IMPACTING OUR ENROLLMENT, BUT TO, TO START THE YEAR 600 PLUS MORE STUDENTS THAN WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR WAS CERTAINLY NOT ANTICIPATED.
AND IT, AND IT CERTAINLY CREATED, UM, SOME REAL DIFFICULT WAYS TO FIGURE THAT OUT JUST TO, FOR THE SCHOOL YEAR.
AND REALLY VERY DIFFICULT TO ADD STAFF AFTER THE SCHOOL YEAR'S ALREADY UP AND RUNNING.
AND AT THE SECONDARY LEVEL, YOU CAN'T REALLY CHANGE YOUR MASTER SCHEDULE VERY EASILY.
IT'S, UH, ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO DO, FRANKLY.
SO THOSE ARE, ARE, UH, ARE, ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE FELT LIKE WAS IMPORTANT TO SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT, UH, IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR CURRENT ENROLLMENT LOOKS LIKE, CLASS SIZES AND WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS COULD BE FOR FUTURE, UH, FINANCIAL PLANNING.
SO WHEN YOU GET THE REPORT IN JANUARY, YOU'RE GOING TO USE THAT DATA TO PROJECT THE FUTURE GROWTH IN THE NEXT THREE, FIVE YEARS OR WHATEVER.
AND THE NEED, POTENTIAL NEED FOR ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS, ADDITIONAL STAFF.
I MEAN, THIS JUST SCREAMS FUTURE LEVY, I HATE TO SAY THAT WORD, BUT IT REALLY DOES SCREAM THAT, UM, IT ALSO SUGGESTS FROM YOUR NUMBERS THAT YOU MIGHT BE THINKING ABOUT REDISTRICTING TO BALANCE OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, YOU BRING UP A LOT OF TOPICS THAT HAVE NOT, I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN TALKED ABOUT CERTAINLY, BUT NO DIRECT ACTION AT THIS POINT.
WRIGHT BROTHERS IS SITTING AT ALMOST 700 STUDENTS RIGHT NOW.
SO THERE IS A, THERE IS AN INEQUITY IN TERMS OF NUMBERS OF STUDENTS SUPPORTED IN THOSE BUILDINGS.
DOES IT SOMETHING THAT THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED, PARTICULARLY AFTER WE GET A, A FUTURE KIND OF PROJECTION? OBVIOUSLY THOSE, I THINK YOU'RE OPEN GONNA HAVE TO BE OPEN TO ANY, ANY TYPE OF WAY TO MAYBE ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE THAT STRAIN.
BUT I, I THINK IN THE END, WHAT YOU'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS ADDITIONAL STUDENTS, NO MATTER WHICH BUILDINGS THEY ARE IN EQUALS ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL NEEDS.
OR YOU LIVE WITH HIGHER CLASS SIZES, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE TWO HAS TO HAPPEN.
BUT I I, THE LARGE INCREASE THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO BASED ON THE GROWTH IN THE CITY, THE NUMBER OF NEW HOMES, APARTMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE GOING UP, THAT'S NOT GONNA GET ANY PRETTIER.
UM, SO WHEN THE SIX HEAD STUDENTS PRESENTED THEMSELVES THIS YEAR, CAN YOU TELL ME, WERE THEY BACK FROM HOMESCHOOL? WERE THEY TRANSFERRED IN? CAN YOU QUANTIFY THAT? THEY, THEY WERE ALL OVER.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, WE HAD STUDENTS THAT HAD CLEARLY HAD MOVED IN OR, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY COME FROM EVERYWHERE.
UH, IT'S JUST A, IT'S A, IT'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FACTORS.
AND I WOULD TELL YOU, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS REALLY AN ANOMALY ACROSS A LOT OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS BECAUSE WE ARE REALLY KIND OF BACK IN, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT NORMAL, UM, SCHOOL YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE 1920, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WAS STILL NOT A NORMAL YEAR.
AND I WOULD, I WOULD SUBMIT LAST YEAR WAS A HARDER YEAR IN EDUCATION THAN THE YEAR BEFORE, UM, BECAUSE OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS.
BUT THIS IS THE YEAR THAT THAT REALLY, THINGS KIND OF ARE NOT FOCUSING ON THE PANDEMIC ANYMORE.
UH, WE'RE, WE'RE BACK TO BEING IN A NORMAL KIND OF SCHOOL WAY.
SO AS A RESULT, ARE WE SEEING ADDITIONAL NUMBERS BECAUSE OF THAT? PROBABLY.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S A FUNCTION OF 2019.
SO GETTING BACK TO THAT WOULD'VE BEEN MAYBE ANTICIPATED 300 ON TOP OF THAT.
NOT ANTICIPATED, NOT IN THE SAME WAY.
AND THE INFLUX OF OUR ELL POPULATION, WHILE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ON SOME LEVEL, ANTICIPATED SOME GROWTH.
THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A NORMAL THING TO HAPPEN TO.
THIS WAS A MUCH LARGER NUMBER.
AND IT STARTED TO KIND OF PRESENT ITSELF AS THE SUMMER PROGRESSED.
AND IT REALLY DID HAVE AN IMPACT ON, ON THE START OF OUR SCHOOL YEAR.
UNLESS THERE'S SOMEBODY, I MEAN, DO A BOARD PERSPECTIVE.
WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN THIS CHART AND DISCUSSED THIS SEVERAL TIMES.
WHAT'S, AND SO, YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVERY TIME WE SEE THIS, IT JUST SORT OF REMINDS US OF THE, OF THE CHALLENGES.
AND, AND SO IN SOME WAYS WE'RE KIND OF, I'M GLAD WE'RE MEETING TOGETHER BECAUSE WE ALMOST HAVE POTENTIALLY CONFLICTING PRIORITIES.
CAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU GUYS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CITY SERVICES AND GETTING PEOPLE HERE AND SO FORTH.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, WELL, HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE EDUCATE ALL THESE STUDENTS, ESPECIALLY YOU, YOU TALKED ABOUT, AS YOU MENTIONED THIS, THE
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ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNERS, BECAUSE YOU ARE THEY STUDENTS THERE IN THE CLASS, BUT YOU'VE GOTTA FIND A WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THOSE STUDENTS.SOME ARE PEOPLE USING, LIKE GOOGLE TRANSLATE, THOSE KIND OF THINGS TO BE ABLE TO BREAK DOWN THE LANGUAGE BARRIER.
BUT ANYTIME YOU HAVE THAT, IT'S A, IT'S A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT CHALLENGE FOR THE, FOR THE TEACHERS TRYING TO DO THAT.
SO YOU MIGHT HAVE SAY MAYBE ONLY ONE OR TWO ADDITIONAL STUDENTS PER CLASSROOM, BUT IT'S STILL ENOUGH TO DISRUPT HOW YOU DO THE PROCESS OF EDUCATION.
SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'RE ANTICIPATING THIS STUDY TO SEE WHAT, WHAT IS SHOWING US WHETHER THE KIND OF THINGS ARE AS WHAT THINGS ARE UNUSUAL.
AND THIS MAY BE JUST THIS, THIS, THE, THE EVENTS JUST COINCIDING IN A STRANGE WAY OR IS THIS THE TREND OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING? BECAUSE CERTAINLY IT AFFECTS A LOT OF THINGS.
STAFFING, AS YOU MENTIONED ALREADY, UH, HOW WE DO OUR SCHEDULES, WHAT KIND OF COURSE OFFERINGS ARE AVAILABLE.
SO THEY'RE HUGE IMPLICATIONS FOR ALL THIS.
AND, UH, WE JUST KINDA LOOK AT, THIS IS BEING ADDRESSED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE OTHER, OTHER PARTS OF STAFF TO SEE HOW WE MAKE THIS, HOW TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
BUT THERE'VE BEEN ALL KINDS OF, OF CHANGES IN TERMS OF HOW WE'VE EVEN DONE BUSINESS THIS YEAR WITH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GIVING UP PLANNING PERIODS OR, OR HAVING NEW SCHEDULES AND, AND DO ALL KINDS OF, OF INTERNAL THINGS WITHIN THE SCHOOLS.
SO, UH, THIS IS, IF WE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST BOARD, BOARD MEETING, KINDA USING THE TERM THIS, SEE THIS AS A CHALLENGE OR CAN SEE IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY.
AND SO RIGHT NOW'S SORT OF WHERE, WHERE ARE WE ON THAT CONTINUUM? AT WHAT POINT ARE WE HAVING TO, WE ALMOST BE, BE REACTIVE BECAUSE OF JUST THE CIRCUMSTANCES WE COULDN'T REALLY PLAN FOR, AND AT WHAT POINT WE CAN SEE THIS IS THE WAY THINGS ARE FOR THE FUTURE.
SO WE HAVE LIKE THE YEAR OR TWO TO PLAN EVEN FOR SCHEDULING FOR NEXT YEAR AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVING THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE DO INTERACT, BUT, BUT CAN, BUT HOW WE, HOW YOU GUYS DO ALL THE ECONOMIC GROWTH, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND HOW WE EDUCATE THE STUDENTS THAT HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, THESE WORK IN, IN TANDEM SOME WAY INSTEAD OF KIND OF, KIND OF PULLING US APART IN OUR DIFFERENT, UH, DIFFERENT LANES HERE.
SO, UH, I'M GLAD THAT, THAT, THAT YOU KIND OF GET, GET THIS, THIS PART OF THE PICTURE.
CAUSE THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST EYE-OPENING THINGS IN THE LAST, LAST SEVERAL MONTHS AS A DISTRICT.
THAT ONCE WE HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN HOW THIS SCHOOL YEAR COMPARES TO ANY PREVIOUS MODEL WE'VE HAD, I'D LIKE TO ADD, UM, IN THE, THE DATA THAT WE'RE EXPECTING, WE NEED THAT DATA REALLY, REALLY BAD TO UNDERSTAND WHERE, UH, ALL THESE DIFFERENCES, WHERE THE PROCESS IS COMING FROM.
VERY SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHEN WE GET TO THE FINANCIAL SECTION, HOUSE BILL NINE 20.
OKAY? THOSE NEW CONSTRUCTIONS, WE DON'T GET REVENUE FOR THEM RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE GONNA TALK THROUGH THAT.
SO THIS GROWTH, WHERE IS IT? IF WE'RE GROWING OUTSIDE OF OUR CURRENT TAX BASE, WE'RE NOT GETTING REVENUE FOR THEM.
IF THAT 300 STUDENTS ARE ALL OVER THERE, WE DON'T GET MONEY FOR THE 300 STUDENTS.
SO WE NEED TO CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM, WHERE THE GROWTH CAREERS ARE, WHEN THAT GROWTH IS GONNA COME IN, SO WE CAN GET OUR ARMS AROUND THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME SO THAT THE FUNDING THAT COMES WITH THOSE STUDENTS THAT ARE LIVING IN THAT AREA ACTUALLY FOLLOWS WITH THE STUDENT TO WHERE THEIR SPENDING ACTUALLY IS GONNA OCCUR.
SO WE'LL GET TO THAT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE THAT, THAT DATA IS CRUCIAL FOR DECISION MAKING AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO NEXT.
THAT CROPPER GIS AND WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON WITH THEM IS LIKE DRAWING THE BLOOD WORK OUT OF THE, THE DISTRICT IN THE CITY TO SEE EXACTLY WHERE EVERYTHING IS BREAKING DOWN, WHERE IT'S COMING FROM AND YOU KNOW, WHAT THE TARGET AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT'S HOW IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME AND THAT'S WHAT MADE THE MOST SENSE.
YEAH, I THINK THAT DATA, I MEAN EVEN FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT KNOWING, KNOWING WHAT'S HAPPENING, JUST AND OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I THINKING OVER THE LAST EVEN 24 MONTHS, WHAT NEW DEVELOPMENT, NEW PROJECTS OR NEW HOUSING COMMUNITIES HAVE COME ON ONLINE? UH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A BUNCH OF NEW ONES, BUT THERE'S BEEN SOME GROWTH WITHIN SOME SPECIFIC COMMUNITIES.
I KNOW A LARGE PORTION OF OUR GROWTH WAS, UH, MIAMI COUNTY AND THOSE, THOSE STUDENTS DON'T COME INTO HE RIGHT.
SCHOOLS, THOSE ARE ALL BETHEL SCHOOLS.
SO THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF GROWTH THERE.
SO I'M JUST, SO I'M THINKING ABOUT THAT 600 NUMBER OF GROWTH AND TRYING TO CORRELATE THAT BACK TO WHAT DEVELOPMENT AND NEW PROJECTS WE'VE HAD, HOW MUCH OF THAT'S GROWTH AND HOW MUCH OF THAT IS JUST, IS INTERNAL AND FAMILY'S GROWING AND YOUNG FAMILIES.
AND THAT'S WHY THAT THOSE, THOSE YOUNGER GRADE LEVELS REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME.
CUZ THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE NEW KIDS.
I, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S, IT WOULDN'T, I COULD BE WRONG, BUT IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE THAT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING TO THE CITY ALL HAVE K THROUGH THIRD GRADERS.
SO THAT, THAT JUST SEEMS OUTSIDE OF AN ANOMALY.
RIGHT? SO IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE MORE INTERNAL AND GROWING FAMILIES THAT ARE ALREADY HERE RATHER THAN AN INFLUX OF NEW PEOPLE.
BECAUSE IF IT WAS AN INFLUX OF NEW PEOPLE, I THINK THAT
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WE WOULD SEE THOSE NUMBERS ALL ACROSS THE BOARD RATHER THAN JUST THE YOUNGER KID THAN THE YOUNGER STUDENTS.AND THE, THE K THROUGH THREE, I MAY POINT OUT TOO REAL QUICK, IF YOU LOOK AT THE KINDERGARTEN COLUMN AT 20 19, 20 20, THAT COHORT OF STUDENTS THAT CAME IN WAS 427.
LOOK AT THE NEXT COHORT THAT CAME IN IN 20 20, 20 21.
THAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE YEAR RIGHT AFTER THE PANDEMIC SHUT DOWN THE SCHOOL YEAR.
THERE WAS A HUGE DROP OFF IN KINDERGARTEN ENROLLMENT THAT YEAR BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT TO START KINDERGARTEN WITH THEIR STUDENTS UNDER THE HOSPICE OF DEALING WITH, WITH THE PANDEMIC.
SO THEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR, LOOK AT WHAT IT BOUNCED BACK TO IN 21, 22, 386 STUDENTS STARTED KINDERGARTEN.
THAT, AND THAT'S THAT COHORT NOW WHERE WE ARE THIS YEAR, 445.
SO THAT'S NOT AS MUCH OF A FUNCTION OF THE PANDEMIC AS CERTAINLY WHAT WE'VE SAW THE LAST TWO SCHOOL YEARS.
NOW THIS GETS BACK TO BEING MAYBE MORE IN ALIGNMENT, BUT EVEN IF YOU COMPARE THIS YEAR'S 4 63 TO PRE PANDEMIC LEVEL 4 27, THAT'S 40 SOME MORE STUDENTS THAT ARE, ARE IN THE DISTRICT AT KINDERGARTEN THAN WERE JUST THREE YEARS AGO.
BUT THEY DON'T FALL NICELY IN JUST TO ONE PLACE.
CUZ THAT'S REALLY ONE TEACHER
BUT THEY DON'T FALL IN ONE BUILDING.
THEY FALL ACROSS THE DISTRICT, WHICH BRINGS ALL OF THOSE CLASS SIZES UP WITHOUT ADDING A FIFTH SECTION IN MOST, MOST PLACES.
AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW THE NUANCES OF LOOKING AT, AT NUMBERS AND SCHEDULING AND STAFFING ALL COME TOGETHER.
AND THEN LAST THING I WAS GONNA MENTION WITH THAT DATA, I THINK IT'S CRITICAL THAT WHEN WE DO HAVE THE DATA, WE OPENLY SHARE THE DETAILS OF THAT BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE SAME THINGS YOU'RE GONNA SEE WITH SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED IN THE CITY AND ALL THESE OTHER FACTORS THAT WE'RE NOT EXPERTS ON.
AND THEY'LL SEE THAT DATA AND SEE WHAT YOU NEED TO DO WITH IT, I THINK WOULD BE KEY.
JUST LIKE WE KNOW YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THE DATA.
I THINK THESE MEETINGS WOULD BE PRODUCTIVE.
AND EVEN IF THIS IS THE FIRST IN A SERIES, AND MAYBE THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT BIG HUGE AGENDAS, BUT THEY'RE A COUPLE KEY TOPICS AND YOU KNOW, WE GET TOGETHER FOR AN HOUR ONCE A QUARTER OR SOMETHING JUST TO WHERE EVERYBODY IS UPDATED AND PRIZE.
JUST KIND OF WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON, I THINK WOULD BE WHAT WOULD WOULD BE GOOD FOR BOTH, FOR BOTH ORGANIZATIONS.
RITUAL WILL COME RIGHT BACK TO YOU THEN.
UM, IS THERE ANY, HAVE YOU GUYS THOUGHT OF ANYTHING THAT, UH, WE AS A JOINT COMMUNITY COULD DO TO, UH, ADDRESS OR TO UM, ENHANCE THE, UH, ABILITY OF THESE NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING STUDENTS COMING INTO THE SCHOOL, UM, TO HELP THEM GET OFF ON A BETTER FOOTING TO PROVIDE THEM, UM, WITH ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE, WHATEVER IT IT MIGHT BE CALLED.
UM, I KNOW THAT IN OUR, JUST OUR LITTLE CUL-DE-SAC WE HAVE, YOU SAY YOU DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE ALL IN THAT KINDERGARTEN OF THIRD GRADE.
I'LL BET YOU THERE'S A DOZEN OF THEM IN MY CUL-DE-SAC THAT ARE IN THAT AGE GRADE, UH, AGE SPAN.
NO, I THINK, I THINK THEY ARE.
MY QUESTION WAS, ARE THEY, IS THAT BIRTH RATES THAT HAVE, THAT HAVE HAPPENED THAT'S CAUSING IT? OR IS IT AN INFLUX OF PEOPLE? I THINK IT BOTH.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE DATA I THINK IS, YEAH, IT'S BOTH.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT DATA WILL BREAK IT DOWN INTO ETHNICITIES OR, OR DEMOGRAPHICS OR WHATEVER.
AND IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S, AS WE ALL KNOW, THERE'S A LARGE TURKISH COMMUNITY THAT'S COME IN.
THERE'S A, A LATINO, THERE'S, I MEAN THERE'S, AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF VARIED NEEDS THERE, BUT IS THERE, UM, ARE WE LOOKING AT IT IN TERMS OF BRINGING IN THE, THE STAFFING THAT WOULD HELP WITH THAT, UH, TRANSITION OR MAYBE SETTING UP A SPECIAL CLASS EITHER, YOU KNOW, AFTER CLASS OR MAYBE A ANOTHER CORE SUBJECT THAT WOULD HELP THEM MAKE THAT TRANSITION? I, I DON'T KNOW.
I'M JUST LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING SO, SO I'LL I'LL ANSWER THAT BY SAYING THAT WE DON'T HAVE ONE LANGU DIFFERENT LANGUAGE THAT'S SPOKEN.
WE HAVE 19, 19 PLUS DIALECTS LANGUAGES THAT WE ARE ARE THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE STUDENTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNERS.
SO SPECIFIC TRANSLATION SERVICES, YOU KNOW, YOU OFFER FOR ONE LANGUAGE YOU WOULD REALLY NEED FOR EQUITY, I'D OFFER IT FOR ALL OF THEM.
AND THERE ARE SUCH VERY DIFFERENT NEEDS THERE THAT YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL OR THE, THE, THE DIALECTS THAT YOU COULD REALLY HIRE TO DO THAT.
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ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNING IS IN, IN THIS PERSONNEL.THE STAFFING SIDE OF THAT IS NOT ABOUT TRANSLATION.
IT'S ABOUT IMMERSION INTO THE LANGUAGE AND CREATING THE ENVIRONMENT TO FIRST AND FOREMOST UNDERSTAND CONVERSATIONAL LANGUAGE BECAUSE REALLY THE ACADEMIC LANGUAGE, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE, THE DATA, IT'S FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS OFF BEFORE THEY CAN, BEFORE THE ACADEMIC LANGUAGE TRANSLATES INTO THE LEARNING.
IT'S SO MUCH ABOUT IMMERSION AND NOT HAVING SEPARATE PLACES FOR STUDENTS TO GO TO LEARN THE LANGUAGE, BUT IMMERSIVE WAYS FOR STUDENTS TO LEARN LANGUAGE.
AND THAT'S DONE THROUGH SOCIALISM, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL, UH, CONSTRUCTS IN, IN A SCHOOL DAY.
SO WE DO HAVE ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNER STAFF TO PROVIDE THAT LEVEL OF SUPPORT FOR STUDENTS, BUT THEY DON'T SPEAK 19 LANGUAGES.
RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S ABOUT, IT'S ABOUT PROVIDING THE SUPPORTS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO, TO HELP THEM NAVIGATE A SCHOOL DAY, TO LEARN, YOU KNOW, TO BE A PART OF OUR, OUR SCHOOL CULTURE.
AND THE ACADEMIC PIECE IS CERTAINLY THERE TOO.
THEY'RE STILL, THERE'S STILL ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES FOR THOSE STUDENTS LEARNING AND DEMONSTRATING THEIR LEVEL OF LEARNING ON STATE ASSESSMENTS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO, UM, IT'S A, A COMPLICATED PROBLEM BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR WITH THE INFLUX IS WE, WE DID POST AN ADDITIONAL POSITION IN THE DISTRICT, UM, AFTER THAT POSITION WAS POSTED, THERE WERE, THERE WERE NO APPLICANTS FOR THAT POSITION.
SHOUT OUT, SHOUT OUT TO MR. BRIAN SHAW.
CORRECT? BECAUSE HE'S THE ONE WHO, THE HIGH SCHOOL WHO'S REALLY, UH, THEIR THEIR GO-TO PERSON.
HE'S THE ONE WHO DEALS WITH THOSE ELL STUDENTS.
AND I KNOW YEAH, GOOGLE TRANSLATE HAS BECOME A VERY, YES.
AND, AND ALL OF OUR ELL STAFF, THEY, THEY'VE ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR TWO HOURS TO TRANSCEND OUR LATE STARTS WAS DEDICATED DIRECTLY TO PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR STAFF ON KIND OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNING PROCESS AND WHAT THAT REALLY LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE IT, IT'S, IT MAY SEEM AS THOUGH IT'S JUST SIMPLY ABOUT HOW DO YOU TRANSLATE FOR STUDENTS, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH MORE TO IT THAN THAT.
UM, BUT, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, PERSONNEL MATTERS ARE, ARE VERY DIFFICULT RIGHT NOW FOR, FOR, FOR LOTS OF PEOPLE.
AND THERE'S NOT AN IN, THERE'S NOT A, A REALLY, UH, ABUNDANCE OF THOSE, THOSE HIGHLY QUALIFIED STAFF MEMBERS TO DO THAT.
SO THE ONES THAT WE DO HAVE ARE DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT.
RICHARD, DID YOU HAVE SOME MORE COMMENTS? THANK YOU.
UM, MY, MY FIRST COMMENT, UH, MS DRAINS, UH, I, I WAS MADE AWARE OF THIS EARLIER THIS YEAR AS WELL.
UM, AND THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION IT WAS PRETTY MUCH CONFIRMED.
UH, MY, MY GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS HOW EXTENSIVE ARE THE CURRENT STAFF MEMBERS ACROSS THE DISTRICT, UM, EITHER VOLUNTEERING, BEING ASKED OR OFFERED TO GIVE UP THEIR PLANNING PERIODS MM-HMM.
AND ARE WE SEEING A, I GUESS A, A CAUSE AND EFFECT WHERE THESE TEACHERS ARE NOW HAVING TO TAKE, TO TAKE A LOT OF THIS WORK HOME WITH THEM ON THEIR PERSONAL TIME? UH, IS, IS THE GRADES PROPERLY GETTING ENTERED IN, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, PARENT TEACHER CONFERENCES AND, UM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE? WHAT KIND OF CAUSE AND EFFECT ARE YOU SEEING AS THIS IS GOING DOWN THE PIKE? UH, FIRST OF ALL, IT, IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS, UM, YOU CAN'T REQUIRE RIGHT TO, FOR PEOPLE TO DO THAT.
SO IT, IT'S THOSE THAT HAVE CHOSEN TO DO THAT, AND IT'S NOT AN EXTENSIVE NUMBER MORE AT WHY IMPORTANT THAN AT WAYNE.
UH, BUT THOSE THAT HAVE CHOSEN TO DO THAT HAVE, HAVE DONE IT OUT OF, YOU KNOW, IN PART, YOU KNOW, IT'S BETTER TO HAVE FEWER KIDS IN A CLASSROOM SO YOU CAN HELP HELP STUDENTS IN THAT.
THAT'S BETTER THAN THE OFFSET OF JUST HAVING THAT PLAN TIME.
SO KUDOS AND APPRECIATION TO THOSE THAT HAVE CHOSEN TO DO IT, THEY ARE BEING COMPENSATED FOR THAT, UH, PER THE NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT, THEY'RE BEING PAID TO DO THAT, THAT EXTRA WORK.
SO THERE IS THAT PIECE OF IT, WHICH THEN WOULD OFFSET THE TIME OF, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL WHEN THAT PLANNING AND, AND GRADING AND ALL THOSE THINGS HAPPEN TOO.
KEEPING IN MIND THAT EVERY STAFF MEMBER IS WORKING OUTSIDE OF A CONTRACT TODAY, EVERY DAY.
UH, THAT THERE'S, IT'S JUST NOT, IT'S NOT REALLY POSSIBLE TO DO THE JOB WITH A 50 MINUTE PLAN, UH, AND GET EVERYTHING DONE THAT, THAT'S NOT REALISTIC IN THOSE CASES.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE IS A TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT.
I'M, I'M CERTAIN IN SOME WAY THAT WHEN YOU'RE TEACHING ALL DAY, EVERY DAY, NO PLANNING PERIOD, THAT THAT, THAT TAKES A TOLL.
I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT BEING THE CASE, BUT, UH, AGAIN, APPRECIATION FOR THOSE THAT HAVE CHOSEN TO DO THAT TO HELP, YOU KNOW, FOR THE GREATER GOOD.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THEY, THEY ARE BEING COMPENSATED FOR THAT.
AND, AND MY, MY SECOND AND LAST POINT, UM, IS I, I'M EXCITED TO, TO SEE THIS DATA AS WELL.
UM, I, I KNOW JUST WITHIN THE PAST 12 TO, YOU KNOW, 16 MONTHS, YOU KNOW, I CAN THINK OF, YOU KNOW, FIVE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, UH, THAT'S WENT ONLINE, UM, OR THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS COUNCIL HAS APPROVED TO START DEVELOPING HERE SOON.
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UM, ADDITIONALLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, COUNTY AUDITOR, YOU KNOW, DATA AT A LOT OF THE, YOU KNOW, FORECLOSED AND VACANT HOMES THAT EXISTED IN 20 18, 20 19 ARE NOW COMPLETELY FULL.SO THOSE WERE EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT HAVE EITHER BEEN REHABBED AND RECONDITIONED TO ALLOW NEW FAMILIES THAT THAT WAS NOT, YOU KNOW, A NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT DIDN'T GET.
UM, AND, AND I KNOW THAT, UH, THAT PERCENTAGE ITSELF IS, IS, IS UPWARDS OF 15 TO ALMOST CLOSE TO 20% OF WHAT IT WAS IN 2019.
I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS MAY BE A CONVERSATION AFTER AFTERWARDS, UM, I KNOW WITHIN THE COMMUNITY ITSELF, WE HAVE A MANY EMPLOYERS THAT ARE STRUGGLING WITH, WITH STAFFING, UM, ESPECIALLY COMING OUT OF COVID.
UM, AND I THINK THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO OR FIND, DEFINITELY FIND SOME WAY TO COLLABORATE TO IMPROVE THAT, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH THE CHAMBER, UM, YOU KNOW, JOBS, OHIO, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, IS DEFINITELY IMPROVING THAT, UM, THAT STAFF LEVEL HERE AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
WHAT, WHAT IN YOUR BELIEF COULD THE CITY DO TO, TO ASSIST WITH THAT? UM, BECAUSE THAT, UH, THAT'S CONCERNING, UH, ESPECIALLY IF A LOT OF THAT CALLS AND EFFECT OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IMPACTS AND VISION IS CAUSING THOSE STAFFING ISSUES AS WELL.
IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A PART OF OUR THIRD, THIRD BULLET ITEM,
UM, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS IS ALSO NOT A NEW REVELATION IN EDUCATION EITHER.
THE, THE NUMBER OF PRE-SERVICE TEACHERS IN COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS HAS STEADILY DECREASED.
AND THAT'S BEEN BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.
IT IS, IT IS A GROWING PROBLEM REGIONALLY THROUGHOUT THE STATE, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT NECESSARILY THAT'S A, THAT'S SOMETHING FOR THIS GROUP REALLY IN A LOT OF WAYS, ALTHOUGH MAYBE IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE, THERE ARE INITIATIVES OUT THERE TO BEGIN BUILDING ON THAT NUMBER, THE, THE NUMBER OF, UH, POTENTIAL EDUCATORS.
AND WE, WE ARE CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN INITIATIVE, UH, WITH RIGHT STATE TO, UH, TO, TO REALLY START HONING IN ON MAKING THIS A, A, YOU KNOW, BUILDING UP THE RESERVES OF PEOPLE THAT, THAT MAY WANT TO GO GO INTO THE TEACHING PROFESSION OR SUPPORT PROFESSIONS.
IT'S BUS DRIVERS, IT'S, YOU KNOW, CLASSIFIED PERSONNEL.
THERE WERE JUST SHORTAGES IN ALL, ALL AREAS OF, OF THE ORGANIZATION.
SO, UM, BUT THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT UNIQUE TO JUST EDUCATION.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE HAVE TO DEVELOP THAT CAPACITY AND, AND THAT INTEREST AND IN THE FUTURE PLANNING FOR REBUILDING A, A, YOU KNOW, POPULATION OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GET INTO EDUCATION.
UM, BUT, BUT IT'S A GREAT PROFESSION.
SO, UM, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK, I'M NOT SURE IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, BUT, YOU KNOW, BIG PICTURE WISE, JUST TALKING ABOUT SCHOOL BUSINESS PARTNERSHIPS, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE ACROSS THE BOARD.
I THINK IT'S REALLY, WE PROBABLY DID SLIDE INTO THE THIRD TOPIC THAT IS PROBABLY A, A THIRD TOPIC.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND SLIDE ON DOWN THERE.
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SO NEXT THING, AGENDA IS OUR SCHOOL AND CITY BUSINESS PARTNERSHIPS.UM, SO JASON, KIND OF ASK THIS OFF TO YOU KIND OF WHAT YOUR, UH, IDEA, I KNOW THIS, THIS AGENDA WAS KIND OF DEVELOPED COLLABORATIVELY THROUGH, UM, ISSUES THAT THE BOARD BELIEVED WAS IMPORTANT AND KIND OF WHAT BELIEVE WAS IMPORTANT.
AND THAT WENT FROM ABOUT 17 DIFFERENT POTENTIAL AGENDA ITEMS DOWN, DOWN TO THESE FOUR.
SO, SO WE'RE NOT HERE UNTIL ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, SO IF, IF YOU'LL, UH, START ON THIS ONE, THEN WE'LL KIND OF FILL IN THE FILM WHERE WE MIGHT NEED TO.
ANYBODY ELSE WANNA START THIS OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO WHO YOU WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO START THIS ONE? GO FOR IT.
I THOUGHT YOU WAS GETTING READY TO I'M DISAPPOINTED YOU DIDN'T.
SO I THINK THE, MAYBE FIRST AND FOREMOST IS THE, THE, THE TOPIC OF SCHOOL BUSINESS COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS REALLY STARTS WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
UM, THE, THE WORK THAT WENT INTO DEVELOPING THAT PLAN, YOU KNOW, COLLABORATION WITH COMMUNITY AND, AND SCHOOL DISTRICT.
IT REALLY HAD A HEAVY FOCUS ON CAREER PATHWAYS AND DEVELOPMENT AND THE OPPORTUNITIES TO GROW, UM, WAYS FOR STUDENTS TO COME THROUGH PUB HEIGHT, CITY SCHOOLS AND, AND GET INTO, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, COLLEGE CAREER PATHWAY.
AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO, UH, TO SEEK OUT WAYS THAT WE CAN HAVE COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIPS FOR THINGS SUCH AS WORK STUDY INTERNSHIPS AND OTHER WAYS TO BUILD ON KIND OF THAT CAREER PATHWAY APPROACH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW STUDENTS NEED TO BE ABLE TO GRADUATE FROM WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL AND, AND, AND HAVE A PATHWAY TO SUCCESS, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE.
AND SO IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, UM, FIRST OF ALL, THE COLLABORATION PIECE WAS A, WAS AN IMPORTANT ONE.
SO, UH, MS. DIETRICH AND I, AND I'LL GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT TO HER, SHE'S SITTING BACK THERE WITH US, REALLY DID AN OUTREACH TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY SEEKING WAYS THAT WE COULD DEVELOP PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
AND THEN, UM, CONTINUING ON WITH THAT, WE, ONE OF THE KEY ITEMS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN WAS TO HAVE A CAREER PATHWAY SUPERVISOR REALLY
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TAKE THIS, TAKE THIS ROLE AND, AND MOVE IT FORWARD, WHICH WE HAVE DONE.UM, MR. KERRYS IS, IS NEW TO US THIS YEAR.
HE IS REALLY PRIMARILY STATIONED AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND IS BEGINNING TO REALLY BUILD SOME INROADS INTO HOW TO, HOW TO, HOW TO ENTICE STUDENTS TO REALLY BE LOOKING INTO THE CAREER PATHWAYS, NOT ONLY JUST THE UPCOMING CAREER TECH PROGRAMMING AT WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL, BUT MANUFACTURING DAY, LOOKING AT, AT TOURS OF, OF DIFFERENT FACILITIES AND, AND BUSINESSES TO REALLY GROW INTEREST, UH, BUILD THAT FROM A SEVEN 12 PERSPECTIVE, EVEN DIPPING INTO ELEMENTARY.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S A PRIMARY FOCUS OF THE DISTRICT STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND IT BUILDS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH NOT ONLY THE CITY, BUT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY ON HOW WE CAN SUPPORT STUDENT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT AND, AND FUTURE CAREER PATHWAYS FOR THOSE KIDS.
SO, UH, EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THAT COULD BRING.
AND, AND I KNOW THAT HE HAS, UH, REALLY BEEN HEAVY INTO REACHING OUT TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND HOW WE CAN DEVELOP THOSE PARTNERSHIPS.
AND IT'S A, IT'S AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY FOR KIDS, UM, AT THE, AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL, AND PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT ARE GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO GRADUATION AND FINDING OUT WHAT THOSE NEXT STEPS ARE.
AS WE WERE GOING OVER THAT AND DISCUSSING ALL THAT THROUGH THE STRATEGIC PLAN, THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP ABOUT STUDENTS AND GRADUATION RATES AND COLLEGE AND ALL THAT STUFF.
AND, AND IT, MS. SPY WAS HERE AT THE TIME AND, UM, THE NUMBERS AT THAT TIME THAT WERE RELAYED TO US FROM O D E WERE OF A NORMAL GRADUATING CLASS FROM HIGH SCHOOL.
76% OF THOSE STUDENTS WILL GO TO COLLEGE.
AND OF THOSE 76%, ONLY 24% ACTUALLY GRADUATE COLLEGE.
SO WE HAVE A HUGE POPULATION MORE THAN WELL OVER, WELL, MORE THAN THREE QUARTERS OF A GRADUATING CLASS THAT DOES NOT BENEFIT FROM A COLLEGE DEGREE.
AND AT THE TIME IT WAS, WHAT ARE WE OFFERING FOR THOSE STUDENTS AND NOT POPULAR, BUT TRUTHFULLY, THE ANSWER WAS AT THE TIME, NOTHING.
SO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE AND THE STRATEGIC PLAN, CALLING FOR IT, AND IT WAS KIND OF THE CT, YOU KNOW, THE CAREER TECH PROGRAM WAS KIND OF A BLESSING BROUGHT ON BY COVID BECAUSE WE'D NEVER HAD THAT MONEY.
YOU KNOW, COVID WAS A HORRIBLE THING, BUT WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THE MONEY TO BUILD THE BUILDING.
SO WHEN ALL THAT COMES ON, THEN YOU, YOU, YOU ASK THE OTHER QUESTION, HOW MANY JOBS OUT THERE? AND YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAD THAT CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T FIND TEACHERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WELL, AT THE STATE LEVEL, THEY SAY 11% OF THE JOBS THAT NEED FILLED REQUIRE A COLLEGE DEGREE.
SO THEN THERE'S ANOTHER HUGE PERCENT OF JOBS OUT THERE THAT DON'T REQUIRE A COLLEGE DEGREE.
AND, YOU KNOW, ME THINKING ABOUT WHAT DO WE DO FOR, YOU KNOW, IT CAN'T JUST, IT'S NOT JUST THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, IT'S A CITY AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, THESE KIDS LEAVE OUR DISTRICT AND THEY GO WHERE? INTO THE CITY.
I GUESS I'M GONNA CALL YOU MAYOR GORE, CUZ THE REST OF THEM ARE AS WELL.
UM, THESE, A LOT OF THESE KIDS ARE STAYING AROUND, YOU KNOW, NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT, AND YOU LOOK AROUND AND YOU SEE, I'VE COACHED FOR A LOT OF YEARS IN HERE, AND I'M FROM HUBER, BEEN HERE MY WHOLE LIFE.
I SEE A LOT OF THE SAME FACES AND I SEE KIDS AND I SEE YOUNG, I CALL 'EM KIDS, THEY'RE NOT KIDS ANYMORE.
THEY'RE YOUNG ADULTS, BUT THEY'RE HAVING BABIES AND THEY'RE HERE.
AND WHAT ARE WE LEAVING THEM WITH? WHAT, WHAT TOOLS ARE WE SETTING THEM WITH? SO THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE COULD COLLECTIVELY COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S ONE THING THAT WE SEE GOING ON ALL AROUND THE CITY? GROWTH REQUIRES CONSTRUCTION.
SO YOU KNOW HOW IT IS, IT COSTS MORE MONEY.
YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE, THESE CATS ARE MAKING SOME SERIOUS DOUGH, YOU KNOW, SLINGING A HAMMER AND, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO, OUT OF THIS TOPIC TO ME, WITH THE PARTNERSHIP AND, AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE THE ANSWER TO IT, BUT WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO GET OPPORTUNITIES TO THESE KIDS THAT AREN'T GONNA HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES.
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE CAREER TECH CENTER IS IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH.
WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT ENOUGH KIDS.
I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT'LL BE ABLE TO DO IT AS LIKE, WHAT, 60? AND THAT'S BETWEEN JUNIORS AND SENIORS.
SO THERE'S STILL A BIG NEED FOR SOMETHING, BUT YOU KNOW, WE STILL, A LOT OF KIDS STILL WANT TO, YOU KNOW, DABBLE IN THE, I KNOW MY DAUGHTER LOOKED AT THE, UM, BIOMED AND ALL THAT STUFF TOO.
SO WE STILL HAVE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT WHAT CAN WE DO OUTSIDE? WHAT CAN WE DO OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL AND WHAT CAN WE LEAN ON THE CITY FOR TO FIND PARTNERSHIPS AND AS WE'VE MOVED FORWARD WITH CAREER TECH, THE PARTNERSHIPS AND THE DONATIONS AND THE THINGS LIKE THAT FOR DIFFERENT MATERIALS THAT'S GONNA BE NEEDED.
CUZ THAT'S GONNA BE A HEAVY BURDEN, YOU KNOW, THE OPERATING COST ON THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE REALLY CAME ACROSS
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THOSE NUMBERS YET.WE DON'T KNOW THOSE NUMBERS YET, BUT THAT'S AN EXTRA OPERATING COST TO RUN THAT FACILITY.
UM, HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU FOLKS THOUGHT ABOUT, MAYBE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU'D HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE CHAMBER, BUT HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT PARTNERING WITH, UH, SOME OF THE LOCAL BUSINESSES TO SET UP INTERNSHIPS? MM-HMM.
AND THEN I CAN'T SAY HIS LAST NAME AS BAD.
MR. KERRYS, CARRYS DAYS ARE OUR LIVES.
I DON'T WATCH DAYS WHERE ALIVE, WHATEVER.
I STILL WON'T GET IT EVEN AFTER TONIGHT.
BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, CARRY IS, HE'S DOING THE SAME THING AS WELL.
AND YOU KNOW, HE WAS, THAT WAS A CHECK MARK GOAL ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO GET HIM HIRED IN.
AND I THINK JASON SPOKE ABOUT HIM, BUT IT'S STILL GONNA TAKE MORE THAN THAT TO MAKE THIS TRULY SUCCESSFUL AND TO KEEP THE, THE COMMUNITY GROWING.
I WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR HUB HEIGHTS.
OBVIOUSLY I WOULDN'T BE SITTING HERE, SAME AS THE REST OF YOU, YOU KNOW? SO, AND IT IS NOT JUST US, IT'S PARENTS TOO.
WE ALL HAVE CONNECTIONS, WE ALL HAVE FRIENDS, WE ALL HAVE SOMEBODY TO KNOW SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW.
NOW NOT SAYING THAT THAT IS GOOD OR A BAD THING, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CONNECTIONS AND WE HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, INTENTIONAL ON WHAT, WHAT WE GO AFTER AND WHAT WE SEEK FOR THESE KIDS.
LIKE, TO ME, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, SHORT OF GOING UP TO LOWS AND BE LIKE, HEY, YOU GUYS GOT SOME EXTRA MATERIAL THAT YOU DON'T WANT THAT YOU'RE GONNA THROW AWAY, I'LL TAKE IT UP TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.
YOU KNOW, YOU SEEN IT CTC ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW, GM, WHEN THEY WERE HERE, THEY WERE DONATING CARS, STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO WE'RE OPEN TO IDEAS ON THAT FOR SURE.
OH, YOU DON'T, YOU'RE TALKING A FEW MINUTES AGO REMINDED ME OF SOMETHING WE USED TO HAVE IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, AND MAYBE WE STILL DO IN THE CAFETERIAS, ALL THESE POSTERS THAT HAD SORT OF THIS, THIS ALPHABET OF, OF CAREERS.
AND YOU GO THROUGH THESE THINGS, CAREERS I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT OF BEFORE AND HAVE THAT, THEY GO THROUGH WHAT, WHAT KIND OF JOBS THERE WERE, WHAT KIND OF EDUCATION YOU HAVE TO HAVE, WHAT KIND OF SKILLS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
AND YOU SEE SOME OF THE, I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS EVEN SUCH A JOB.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THIS AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT THIS, THAT JUST CAME TO MIND THAT ARE THERE JOBS OUT THERE, PEOPLE I'D BE INTERESTED IN, BUT THEY JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE JOBS ARE, HOW YOU GET THEM, WHO YOU WORK FOR, HOW YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DO ON YOUR OWN.
AND CERTAINLY THIS, THAT'S WHAT COMES TO MIND.
THINK ABOUT THESE PARTNERSHIPS.
WHAT ARE THOSE, THE PEOPLE OUT THERE DOING THAT THAT PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW THOSE JOBS EXIST AND HOW WE PREPARE FOR THEM.
AND, AND, AND ALSO JUST SEEING IF THEY THINK THEY MIGHT LIKE SOMETHING, THEN SEE FIRSTHAND WHAT IT'S LIKE.
SAY, WELL, I DON'T THINK I'D LIKE THAT JOB AFTER ALL.
YOU KNOW, SO I WANNA BE A ZOOKEEPER FIND MOST OF YOUR TIME IS SITTING THERE CLEANING CAGES AND STUFF LIKE THIS.
MAYBE THAT'S NOT QUITE AS GLAMOROUS AS I THOUGHT, BUT JUST SO PEOPLE BEFORE THEY START INVESTING A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY HAVE A MORE REALISTIC EXPECTATION OF WHAT THESE CAREERS OR JOBS, UH, MAY INVOLVE.
SO IT'S, SO I DO THINK THAT, UM, THE HIRING OF, OF THAT CAREER TECH SUPERVISOR AND MR. KAYAKS WAS A VERY STRATEGIC HIRE.
I THINK IT WAS VERY MUCH NEEDED, BUT, BUT IT REALLY IS KIND OF A CULTURE SHIFT, RIGHT? WE'VE SEEN 20 YEARS AGO IT WAS ALL ABOUT GOING TO COLLEGE, ALL ABOUT GOING TO COLLEGE, ALL ABOUT GOING TO COLLEGE.
COLLEGE IS DEFINITELY IMPORTANT, THE COST OF COLLEGE AND RISING AND COLLEGE COSTS AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO THAT COLLEGE NOW IS JUST NOT, IT ISN'T THE END ALL BE ALL.
OR IF THEY GO TO COLLEGE, IT'S NOT A FOUR YEAR PLAN, IT BECOMES AN EIGHT OR NINE YEAR PLAN.
COLLEGE BECOMES JUST THIS CONTINUAL LEARNING TILL YOU FINALLY REACH THE END AND IT TAKES LONGER THAN FOUR YEARS.
SO SOME OF THOSE STUDIES, THERE WAS A, MAYBE MIGHT HAVE BEEN 10 YEARS AGO, I SAW A STUDY OUT OF, I THINK IT WAS OUT OF LSU THAT SAID, OUT OF ALL THE, SO THEY LOOKED AT ALL THE MAJOR UNIVERSITIES IN THE COUNTRY AND OF ALL THE UNIVERSITIES, OF ALL THE KIDS THAT ENTERED INTO A FOUR YEAR PROGRAM AT A FOUR YEAR UNIVERSITY, IT WAS LESS THAN 18% OF THOSE STUDENTS ACTUALLY FINISHED AT THE UNIVERSITY THEY STARTED.
SO, AND I THINK THOSE NUMBERS HAVE PROBABLY EVEN GOTTEN SMALLER NOW THAT WE'VE SEEN THIS KIND OF CULTURE SHIFT BACK TO, UH, NOT JUST INTO A SERVICE ECONOMY AND MANUFACTURING ECONOMY, NOT JUST A PROFESSIONAL ECONOMY.
SO THOSE, IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE ALL THOSE TRENDS AND WHERE THAT, WHERE THAT DATA GOES AS WELL.
BUT YOU KNOW, MR. BOARD PRESIDENT, I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING.
I I WOULD AGREE THAT KNOWING IT'S A CULTURAL SHIP THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY, WE ALL HAVE TO BE VERY, UM, PURPOSEFUL ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE HAVE, LEVERAGING RELATIONSHIPS WE HAVE.
IT ALMOST HAS TO BECOME THIS, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY.
LET'S, LET'S GO, LET'S GET BEHIND THIS WHERE WE
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HAVE EVERYBODY INVOLVED, BUSINESS LEADERS, AND THAT STARTS THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THERE'S LOTS OF NEW FACES ON THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WHO ARE VERY, UH, INTERESTED IN BEING INVOLVED AND HELPING IN ANY WAY THAT THEY CAN.AND SO EVERY ORGANIZATION, EVERY RELATIONSHIP THAT WE ALL HAVE THAT WE CAN UTILIZE OR LEVERAGE, YOU KNOW, FOR A LACK OF BETTER TERMS, WE, WE NEED TO BE DOING THAT.
IT HAS TO BE INTENTIONAL, UM, BECAUSE IT IS A SHIFT.
AND IF WE DON'T, IF WE'RE NOT PURPOSEFUL ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, I THINK WE'LL BE SITTING AROUND THIS TABLE AGAIN GOING, OH, WELL WHAT DO WE, WHAT DO WE, WHAT DO WE DO NOW? WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE DO NOW? WE WISH WE WOULD'VE DONE THAT BEFORE BECAUSE THERE IS A HUGE, HUGE, UM, SHIFT IN WHAT AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THESE KIDS.
AND THEY'RE SEEING OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE A LIVING OUTSIDE OF THE TRADITIONAL PATHWAY.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, AND MAKE YES, AND, AND MAKE A VERY GOOD LIVING.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, MR. AICK SAID DURING HIS INTERVIEW PROCESS ACTUALLY WAS HE USED THE TERM COST NEUTRAL, WHICH HAS BECOME A BIG THING FOR ME ANYWAYS.
WE HAD TO TRY TO DO THESE THINGS IN AT THE DISTRICT.
WE HAVE TO TRY TO KEEP 'EM COST NEUTRAL.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T GO OUT AND SPEND MONEY AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, SPEND MONEY AT ALL ON IT.
SO THESE RELATIONSHIPS ARE A BIG PART, I THINK.
NO, I KNOW THAT MR. ENIX IS ON THE CHAMBER.
HE GOES TO CHAMBER COMMERCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S STARTING TO MATERIALIZE.
WE'RE WA I THINK IT'S TIME TO KEEP WATERING IT.
THE SEEDS THERE, IT'S TIME TO WATER THE SEED AND, AND SEE WHAT MATERIALIZES OUT OF IT.
BUT I'M SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY COMING TOGETHER NOW, IT'LL, IT'LL GET BETTER.
IT'S A, I DON'T WANNA SAY IT CAN'T GET ANY WORSE CUZ WE WENT THROUGH COVID.
NOW THE, THAT LEADS ME TO, UM, SINCE WE TALKED ABOUT COST NEUTRAL, IF WE CAN MOVE ON DOWN TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CITY FINANCIAL PLANNING.
SO I THINK, DO WE HAVE SOME, OH, DO WE HAVE SOME? YEAH, RICHARD HAD A COMMENT AND THEN I COULDN'T, SO MR. WEBB MIGHT HAVE A COMMENT AND THEN ONCE WE OKAY.
SHOW YOU THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE LAST, LAST SIDE.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO SUGGEST, ACTUALLY TWO OF 'EM IS IT WAS, I THINK IN 20 13, 20 14 IN THAT TIMEFRAME, UM, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, USED TO HAVE AN AMAZING PARTNERSHIP, UM, WITH, UH, NOT ONLY HUBER HEIGHTS CHAMBER, UH, THE DAYTON CHAMBER AND A LOT OF LOCAL BUSINESSES, UM, AND HELD A JOB EXPO FAIR HERE AT THE SCHOOLS.
WELL ATTENDED, UM, I WOULD ALMOST BET YOU DOLLARS TO DONUTS THAT MANY OF OUR SENIORS AND JUNIORS HAVE NO IDEA THAT ONE OF THE LARGEST, UM, STEEL PRESS MILLS, UM, IN NORTH AMERICA IS RIGHT HERE IN HUBER HEIGHTS AT I AMERICA.
UM, AND IS THE, IS ONE OF THE LARGEST, UH, STEEL USERS IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.
UM, AND PROBABLY A LOT DON'T KNOW OF WHAT HAPPENS AT TRIMBULL.
UM, SO I, THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT, UM, STUDENTS THAT WERE GOING INTO DIFFERENT PROFESSIONS OR LOOKING FOR A WAY FORWARD WAS ABLE TO HEAR FROM, YOU KNOW, SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, INSURANCE AGENTS, UM, MANUFACTURERS, UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE COMPANIES WOULD COME IN FREE OF CHARGE, UM, GIVE THEIR TIME, UH, GIVE INFORMATION, SUPPLY, YOU KNOW, A CAREER PATH FORWARD, WHETHER THAT BE IN COLLABORATION WITH SINCLAIR, UH, RIGHT STATE ON, ON HOW TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B.
UM, I THINK MORE OF THAT, AGAIN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COST NEUTRAL.
I THINK THAT YOUR COST NEUTRAL WAY FORWARD, UH, TO, TO, TO BRING SOME OF THAT BACK.
UM, MY SECOND POINT IS DURING A LOT OF MY INVOLVEMENT WITH THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, AND I'M ACTUALLY GONNA BE THERE HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGAIN, UM, IS, UH, ONE OF THE BEST BUSINESS AND SCHOOL INCUBATOR, UM, COLLABORATIONS I'VE EVER SEEN, WHICH HAS HOUSED IN NORTH KANSAS CITY.
UM, IT IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING THE CITY AND SCHOOL WENT IN TOGETHER.
YES, IT CAN BE DONE, UM, TO ACTUALLY, UM, PUT A GAME PLAN TOGETHER ON A FACILITY WHERE BUSINESS OWNERS COME IN ACROSS THE REGION TO COLLABORATE WITH STUDENTS ON FREE SPACE, ON HOW TO GET INTO A DIFFERENT JOB MARKET, UH, ADDITIONALLY, AND IT'S, IT'S ADDITIONALLY FOR ADULTS AS WELL.
UM, AND, AND I THINK IT, IT THAT REALLY BRINGS, AS THE MAYOR SAID, THAT THAT COMMUNITY ASPECT BACK TOGETHER, UM, YOU HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE POWER THAT GOES TO THAT FACILITY, UM, IS, IS PAID FOR BY THEIR LOCAL UTILITY.
UM, THE WATER IS ALL PAID FOR BY DONATIONS FROM A BUSINESS.
UM, ALL OF THE BUILDING MATERIALS, THE KITCHEN UNITS AND EVERYTHING ELSE WAS ALL, UH, PAID FOR BY LIKE HE PENNY AND ALL THESE.
SO I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE ALL, AND, AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, BOARD PRESIDENT, AS YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, COST NEUTRAL AND REALLY GETTING TO THOSE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
UH, AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
AND THAT HAS REALLY, UM, LOOKED TO, UM, REGENERATE,
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UH, THE NORTH KANSAS CITY AREA.UM, AND, UM, A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE IS THE MAYOR OUT THERE.
AND, UM, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE SEEN JOB GROWTH, UM, BECAUSE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS ARE STAYING THERE.
SO YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, HOME FIELD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT STARTED AT THE GROUND LEVEL.
UM, SO THAT, THAT DEFINITELY IS, I THINK A COLLABORATIVE PIECE THAT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT HERE IN THE COMMUNITY IS HOW CAN YOU KNOW, WE AS A CITY AND, AND AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT COMBINE, UH, TO CREATE THAT INCUBATOR UNIT.
UM, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE, YOU KNOW, GET THAT, YOU KNOW, COMBINATION OFF THE GROUND AND WHAT'S IT GONNA LOOK LIKE? SO, THANK YOU MAYOR.
UH, IT OCCURS NEAR THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, UH, IS A FAIRLY LARGE EMPLOYER IN AND OF ITSELF.
AND OVER THE YEARS, THIS COUNCIL'S HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, SOME SORT OF COLLABORATION THAT WOULD ALLOW EARLY ENTRY INTO, UH, FIRE EMS. UM, AS A CITY WE HAVE A PROBLEM RECRUITING, UH, FIRE, EMS, POLICE.
AND I JUST WONDER HAVE THERE BEEN ANY, UH, THOUGHTS ABOUT CREATING A PROGRAM WITH POLICE, WITH FIRE EMS OR WITH OUR CITY MANAGER CALLS? THE BIG THREE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS AS WELL IS A HUGE DIVISION WITHIN THE CITY.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE COULD COLLABORATE THERE, ESPECIALLY IN THOSE THREE AREAS, AND IT WOULD BE A MUTUAL BENEFIT IN ADDITION TO GIVING A CAREER PATH TO THE STUDENTS, THE CITY COULD USE THOSE RECRUITS.
AND, UH, AS, UH, MR. MULLIN SAID, KEEP THOSE KIDS HERE IN HUBER HEIGHTS, HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE.
THANKS FOR, SO I THINK, AND GLENN ASKED FOR ONE MORE COMMENT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, I'LL BE QUICK, BUT, UH, YOU WE'RE CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT, IT SEEMS LIKE AS WE GO THROUGH TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS HAPPENING AND PEOPLE DIDN'T CATCH THAT UNTIL, YOU KNOW, THE LAST MINUTE.
NOW WE GOT IT SHIFT AND CHANGED TO THE NEXT THING, BUT BY THE TIME IT GETS SHIFTED AND CHANGED, MAYBE IT'S CHANGING AGAIN.
UM, ARE WE FOCUSED ON THOSE THINGS AS WELL? I MEAN, I'M, I'M NEW TO THE, THE TERM GIG ECONOMY.
I, I FINALLY FIGURED OUT WHAT THAT MEANT.
UM, BUT IT SEEMS THAT THAT'S GROWING AND GROWING AND GROWING MICRO-BUSINESSES GROWING AND GROWING AND GROWING.
ARE WE, ARE WE PREPARING THESE KIDS FOR THE GIG ECONOMY, FOR ESTABLISHING THEIR OWN MICRO BUSINESS? YOU KNOW, FIGURING THOSE THINGS OUT.
ARE WE GETTING BACK TO, UM, MAYBE SOME BASICS THAT THEY'LL NEED IF THEY'RE GOING TO JUMP INTO THOSE THINGS? YOU KNOW, THE STUFF THAT, THAT I KNOW I DID BACK IN, IN SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE LEARNED TO BALANCE A CHECKBOOK.
I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT CHECKBOOKS ARE NOWADAYS, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, BOUNCING A BUDGET AND JUST SOME, YOU KNOW, THOSE BASIC HOUSEHOLD AND, AND DAILY ITEMS, UM, THAT YOU WOULD, THAT KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO RUN A SMALL BUSINESS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
OR ARE WE, WE GOT ANY FOCUS ON THAT RIGHT NOW? ARE WE STILL KIND OF WORKFORCE COLLEGE FOCUSED AGAIN? AND I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHERE OUR KIDS ARE MOVING AND WE GOTTA HAVE 'EM READY FOR THAT.
I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YOUR, YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL LITERACY BEING ONE PIECE THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT AS A REQUIREMENT, UM, FOR THE STATE OF OHIO, IT HAS BEEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME, WHETHER IT'S INSTRUCTION OR THROUGH A COURSE ITSELF.
SO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE IN SOME WAYS SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE, WE TEACH OUR KIDS ABOUT FINANCIAL LITERACY.
UM, THERE ARE OTHER, OTHER OPTIONS TOO, BUT YOU GOT HAVE TO REMEMBER IN, IN SOME WAYS THAT, THAT WE ARE, WE'RE KIND OF GOVERNED BY THE STATE OF OHIO AND
AND, AND YET THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITIES WITH ELECTIVE PROGRAMMING AND SOME OF THESE NON-REQUIRED COURSES.
AND WE SHOWED A COUPLE OF THOSE UP, UP ON THE, ON THE SCREEN EARLIER.
YOU KNOW, COMPUTER SCIENCE IS NOT A REQUIRED COURSE AT, AT WHY IMPORTANT.
NEITHER IS DESIGN AND MODELING, BUT THEY'RE GREAT COURSES THAT, YOU KNOW, CREATE THE DIFFERENT WAY OF THINKING, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF, OF MODEL THAT'S NOT JUST YOUR NORMAL MATH, SCIENCE, LANGUAGE ARTS, SOCIAL STUDIES.
YOU KNOW, WE REALLY HAVE A FOCUS ON, ON PROJECT BASED LEARNING, NOT COMPREHENSIVELY AS A DISTRICT AS AT THIS TIME, BUT WE'VE STARTED TO, TO BUILD THE CAPACITY OF, OF SOME OF OUR STAFF TO REALLY FOCUS IN ON, ON PROJECT BASED LEARNING, WHICH REALLY ENCOMPASSES SOME OF THOSE TYPES OF SKILLS AND ATTITUDES AND FX THAT ARE, ARE NOT ABOUT JUST DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, KNOWING SOMETHING, BUT THE APPLICATION, THE SYNTHESIS, THE, THE WAYS IN WHICH EDUCATION SHOULD TRANSLATE INTO KIND OF WHAT LIFE IS ABOUT TOO.
SO THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER, ANOTHER MODEL I THINK IF MAYBE TO ADDRESS YOUR, YOUR POINT THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE VERY, VERY MUCH STARTING DOWN THE PATHWAY OF AGAIN, AND RELATED ALSO INTO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
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THANK YOU.WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE A LITTLE BIT, EVEN HOW THE TESTING IS SO MUCH BASED LARGELY ON LIKE COLLEGE PREP TYPE STUFF AND TO BE IN THE MILITARY TO YOURSELF, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE ASVAB, HOW YOU DO THESE THINGS, WHERE YOU DO THESE MODELING KIND OF THINGS, HAD THESE LITTLE GRAPHS AND SAID, IF YOU TURN THIS WHEEL, WHAT WILL HAPPEN HERE? AND THESE THINGS REDUCE SPATIAL REASONING AND, AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT HAVE A BROADER, UH, APTITUDE OF WHAT SKILLS SWAY MIGHT HAVE THAT MAY NOT BE.
SO THEIR BRAIN MAY NOT BE ORIENTED TOWARD DOING, SAY THIS KIND OF ACADEMIC KIND OF STUFF, BUT YOU, THE MACHINE IN FRONT OF 'EM, THEY CAN FIGURE OUT ANYTHING.
AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE UNFORTUNATE THINGS THAT WHAT I'M ABLE TO DETERMINE IS HOW THE SYSTEM IS SET UP.
WE STILL, THIS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, THIS IS HOW WE TEST, AND IT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO BE MORE ENCOMPASSING TO IDENTIFY THOSE KIND OF SKILLS AND TALENTS AT THIS POINT TO MEASURE WHAT THAT IS.
UM, MY TAKEAWAY WAS DO WE TALK TO SINCLAIR AND WRIGHT STATE AND TRY TO GET INTERNSHIPS FOR THEM TO COME BACK AND WORK WITH OUR ELS OR MAYBE BRING BACK SOME OF THE ELS YES.
AND HELP THEM WITH THE YOUNGER ONES TO PUSH, HELP PUSH OUT OUR CRITERIA.
PRE-SERVICE TEACHERS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THOSE THAT COME IN AND WORK WITH WITH BUILDINGS STUDENT TEACHING, UH, YOU KNOW, YES, THERE ARE, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES.
VOLUNTEERS CERTAINLY A PART OF IT.
SO, OR LIKE EVEN INTERPRETATION TO HELP BRING IN THOSE STUDENTS WHO ARE LEARNING AT THOSE UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES AND HELP THEM TRANSLATE INTO THE 19 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES WE OFFER.
THERE'S AN EQUITY ISSUE THAT'S ALWAYS A CONCERN, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, IF YOU PROVIDE FOR ONE, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR ALL.
SO, SO JUST DIALING INTO A CERTAIN LANGUAGE IN INEVITABLY CREATES AN EQUITY ISSUE IN TERMS OF THAT.
SO IT, IT IS A, IT IS KIND OF A BALANCE THERE.
IT'S NOT THE NOT LACK OF INTEREST, BUT YOU ALSO DON'T WANT TO CREATE A SITUATION WHERE YOU ARE IN SOME WAYS DISCRIMINATORY, UH, BY NOT PROVIDING THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR, FOR ALL, UH, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, CAN'T DO IT FOR ONE AND NOT FOR ALL IN A LOT OF WAYS.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, YEAH.
THE FOCUS ON THE ELS IS IMMERSION.
THINK ABOUT WHEN WE'RE LITTLE, WE'RE LEARNING THINGS THROUGH IMMERSION.
DON'T DIS I MEAN, WHAT IS THIS? WE'RE ALWAYS ASKING THOSE THINGS THROUGH IMMERSION.
SO THROUGH IMMERSION, THEY'RE LEARNING OUR LANGUAGE MM-HMM.
TRANSLATING IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO DO.
YOU WANT TO DO THINGS THROUGH IMMERSION TO LEARN THAT LANGUAGE.
YOU EMBRACE IT, IT BECOMES PART OF YOU INSTEAD OF TRYING TO STOP AND THINK, OKAY, HOW DO I SAY THAT? YOU DON'T WANNA, IT NEEDS TO BE FLUID.
AND THE ONLY WAY TO REALLY DO THAT IS THROUGH IMMERSION.
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THE, UH, THE LAST TIME, WHICH IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THEN CITY FINANCIAL PLANNING.SO THIS WILL BE WHERE I WOULD CERTAINLY EXPECT, UH, MR. ENIX AND THEN, UM, MR. SADOWSKI TO HAVE, UM,
AND, UH, IF DON'T MEAN TO PUT EITHER OF YOU ON THE SPOT, MAYBE YOU HAD SOMETHING DIFFERENT PLANNED.
BUT, UM, AGAIN, I THINK SO MUCH OF THIS IS, UH, KIND OF THE SAME AS THE BOARD.
YOU GUYS SET THE POLICY AND, AND YOU KNOW, MR. E'S RESPONSIBILITY IS TO IMPLEMENT THAT POLICY WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
WE, WE SET POLICY AND THEN IT'S, UM, BRIAN AND THE STAFF'S JOB TO IMPLEMENT THAT POLICY IN THE CITY.
SO I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THE WORKINGS OF THE EVERYDAY STRUCTURE OF THIS, UH, THE MORE COLLABORATION AND CONVERSATION THAT, UH, MR. ENSON AND MR. SIKOWSKI HAVE BETWEEN EACH OTHER REALLY HELPS PUSH THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC ALONG.
BUT, UH, BUT CERTAINLY ALL OF US BEING ABLE TO DISSEMINATE THE INFORMATION AND, AND KNOW HOW TO USE IT.
SO, UM, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THEN WE'LL, UH, WE'LL KIND OF LET YOU KICK IT OFF HERE TOO, OR BRIAN, UNLESS YOU, YOU GOT SOMETHING TO KIND OF SAY TO START OR, UM, IT'S ALL NEW
SO I GUESS JASON, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD HAVE TALKED A LITTLE MORE ABOUT BASED WHEN WE DEVELOPED THIS AGENDA THAT YOU IT'S OKAY, LET'S GO TO THE START.
AND, UH, I'LL, I WILL BE GLAD TO, TO JUMP IN.
UH, MRS. ROCKER IS OUR TREASURER.
WE, WE, UH, WE, WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP.
WE WORK VERY WELL TOGETHER, UM, FOR THE BENEFIT OF, OF EVERYONE INVOLVED HERE BECAUSE WE, WE REALLY HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO, TO BE SUCCESSFUL ALONG WITH OUR, WITH OUR BOARD.
SO WHAT I'LL SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT IS JUST KIND OF A, A BROAD OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, WITH OUR, OUR CURRENT FINANCIAL SITUATION.
UM, BUT THE FIRST THING HERE, AGAIN, THIS IS A PRETTY EXPANSIVE GRAPH, UH, TO KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT, BUT WHAT IT REALLY DOES SHOW IS A HISTORY OF DISTRICT FINANCES THAT DATES BACK TO A PRETTY DIFFICULT TIME, UH, 10 YEARS AGO WHERE THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF REDUCTIONS THAT TOOK PLACE, UM, TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $14 MILLION.
AND OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS, THAT IS THE, THE RESULTS OF THAT HAVE CREATED A GROWING CASH BALANCE FOR THE DISTRICT.
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CAN SEE IN THE BOTTOM, THE BOTTOM GRAPH IS WHERE THAT RED, THAT RED OVAL IS RIGHT WHERE WE ARE TODAY, OR THE BEGINNINGS OF THAT RED OVAL, UM, IS SHOWING THAT DEFICIT SPENDING IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING AND PROJECTED TO BE EVEN GREATER AS TIME GOES ON.AND THIS IS KIND OF A NORMAL CYCLE IN EDUCATION.
UM, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THAT'S THE WAY OUR FUNDING MECHANISMS WORK, BUT THIS IS KIND OF A NORMAL SITUATION.
AND SO WHAT, WHAT I THINK IS A LITTLE BIT REMARKABLE ABOUT THIS, AND I APPRECIATE MR. COMB SHARING THIS, UH, WITH ME LAST WEEK, BUT THE, THE WAY THAT THIS WAS PROJECTED TO HAPPEN YEARS AGO AND FOR IT TO HAPPEN ON THE TIMELINE THAT IT DID SHOWS PRETTY REMARKABLE WAYS OF MONITORING THE FINANCIAL SITUATION TO THE DISTRICT.
BUT THE DOESN'T CHANGE THE REALITIES IS THAT WE ARE NOW CRESTING OVER THAT HILL AND STARTING TO DEFICIT SPEND.
SO THAT BUILD UP OF A CASH BALANCE OVER TIME IS NOW GOING TO START BEING ERODED AWAY.
CAUSE THE NATURAL INCREASED COSTS, YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT.
I KNOW ON SOME LEVEL, UM, GREATER, GREATER EXPENSES YOU'RE GONNA EAT INTO YOUR CASH BALANCE.
AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE DEFICIT SPEND.
SO THAT'S, I THINK, SOME CONTEXT.
THE OTHER CONTEXT TO SHARE WITH YOU IS THE, THE, THE HISTORY OF, OF, UM, REVENUE FOR THE DISTRICT.
UM, OPERATING LEVIES, GOING BACK TO 1976.
UM, PENNY, I THINK YOU SHARE THIS, THE VOTED KNOWLEDGE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT WAS VOTED IN AT 17.1, JUST MEANS MAYBE IT WAS COMBINED AT A TIME TO BE 17.1.
SO YOU'LL SEE THE VOTED MILLAGE AND OPERATING LEVEES THAT WERE, WERE APPROVED BY THE, BY THE COMMUNITY AT WHAT THEY WERE VOTED IN AS, AND WHAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY BRINGING IN IN TERMS OF EFFECTIVE MILLAGE.
SO THAT'S THAT WHOLE IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO, TO GET MORE THAN WHAT YOU VOTED IN AS A, AS A COMMUNITY.
THAT'S THE HOUSE BILL NINE 20, WHICH I'LL GET TO IN A MOMENT.
SO ALL OF THIS IS WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE LAST NEW OPERATING FUNDS IN THE DISTRICT WERE APPROVED BY THE COMMUNITY IN 2005.
SO WE'RE NOW APPROACHING YEAR NUMBER 18 WITHOUT NEW OPERATING REVENUE WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO KNOW.
IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT, UH, THE BOND ISSUE, WHILE THAT WAS PAST THE 2005, WAS FOR CONSTRUCTION ALONG WITH THE CLASSROOM MAINTENANCE FUND THAT GOES ALONG WITH AN O FCC PROJECT.
UM, THOSE ARE BONDS, THOSE ARE NOT OPERATING, SO THEY DON'T CROSS OVER.
YOU CAN'T USE ONE FOR THE O OR YOU CAN'T USE BOND FOR OPERATING.
IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THE, THE PERMANENT IMPROVEMENT DONE, UH, IN 2007 WAS VOTED IN A 1.5.
IT'S NOW A EFFECTIVE VILLAGE OF 0.8.
AGAIN, PERMANENT IMPROVEMENT IS FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, CANNOT BE USED FOR OPERATING EXPENSES IN TERMS OF EVERYDAY OPERATING, YOU KNOW, SALARIES AND TURNING ON LIGHTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO THIS IS, UH, AGAIN, A HISTORY, UH, DATING BACK QUITE A LONG TIME AGO, BUT PROBABLY JUST IMPORTANT TO NOTE HERE THAT OH FIVE WAS THE LAST TIME NEW OPERATING FUNDS, UH, WERE, WERE APPROVED BY, BY, WE TALKED ABOUT BRIEFLY THAT PREVIOUS GRAPH THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS TO THE TUNE OF 14 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS.
UM, JUST WOULD BE, I, I CAN'T, I, I WASN'T HERE FOR THAT.
I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WERE IN THE CATASTROPHIC NESS THAT, THAT CAUSED.
UM, JUST WOULD BE REMARKABLE TO THINK ABOUT.
I, I, I HAVE, I STRUGGLED TO THINK WHAT THAT WOULD'VE BEEN LIKE.
UM, SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT, BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, THE CASH BALANCE HAS BEEN INCREASING OVER TIME.
AND NOW WE'RE, WE'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT HILL HOUSE BILL NINE 20 IS, IS REALLY A KEY LEARNING OPPORTUNITY FOR SO MANY PEOPLE.
LEGISLATION DATING BACK TO 1976.
THE IMPORTANT THING TO KNOW ABOUT THAT IS IT FREEZES THE INCOME RECEIVED FROM VOTED MILLAGE.
SO, UH, AS, AS PROPERTY VALUES INCREASE, THE EFFECTIVE MILLAGE IS NOW NO LONGER WHAT THE SAME AS WHAT YOUR VOTED MILLAGE IS.
AND ALSO EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHEN ADDITIONAL PROPERTY, UH, COMES ONLINE, THAT THAT IS PART OF THE VALUATION THAT'S, THAT'S ASSESSED.
SO NEW CONSTRUCTION DOES NOT ADD TO THE TAX BASE FOR SCHOOL DISTRICT NOW ADDS TO THE TAX BASE IN GENERAL, BUT THE TAXABLE AMOUNT IS, IS REDUCED BECAUSE WE HAVE NO MORE MONEY THAN WAS EVER VOTED IN, IS THAT HOPEFULLY LITTLE DOLLARS TOTAL DOLLARS STAYS THE SAME, WE DON'T GET ANYMORE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT FACTOR.
UM, SO AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, COSTS ARE GOING UP, INFLATION HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF EDUCATIONAL NEEDS.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE, ARE FACTORS IN THAT HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S BUDGET.
IN THE BOTTOM LINE, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT ESSER FUNDS, OF COURSE PANDEMIC RELIEF FUNDS,
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UM, AND SEPARATE WAVES, UH, THAT WE'VE OF COURSE HAVE RECEIVED.UM, THEY'VE BEEN, THEY'RE ABLE TO BE, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE USED FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
I'VE ONLY OUTLINED SOME OF THOSE THAT ARE UP THERE RIGHT NOW.
UH, VERY SIGNIFICANT WAY THAT WE'RE USING OUR, OUR FUNDS.
AS FOR THE CAREER TECH EDITION AT WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER, OTHER WAYS THAT IT WAS USED.
THIS GIVES A VISUAL OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, CONSTRUCTION LEARNING RECOVERY WAS ABOUT 40% OF IT.
WE USED SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS FOR TECHNOLOGY EXPENDITURES, BUS PURCHASES, AND IN SOME WAYS, THESE DOLLARS HAVE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO OFFSET GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES SO THAT YOU CAN KIND OF EXTEND YOUR CURRENT BUDGET.
I WOULD SAY TECHNOLOGY BE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT.
BEING ONE TO ONE IS IMPORTANT, UM, IN THIS DAY AND AGE AND ONE TO ONE TECHNOLOGY, WELL, THOSE TECHNOLOGY DEVICES HAVE TO HAVE A REPLACEMENT CYCLE.
AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND THOSE DOLLARS, THE COVID DOLLARS WERE ABLE TO BE USED TO, TO PAY FOR THOSE.
UM, AND IT OFFSET GENERAL FUND, UH, EXPENDITURES IN THAT WAY.
WE'VE TALKED ALRIGHT TONIGHT ABOUT, UH, PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF OUR ENROLLMENT INCREASES AND WHAT, WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE.
UH, WITH SOME, UH, THAT PROJECTION STUDY, UM, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THOSE NUMBERS TO GO UP WITH THE ADDITIONAL, UH, HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE AS WELL AS OTHER FACTORS IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE'VE TALKED ALREADY ABOUT PROPER GIS AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR US, AND WE CERTAINLY ARE ANXIOUSLY AWAITING, UH, THE OUTCOME OF THAT STUDY.
I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THOUGH, THAT THAT SCHOOL FUNDING IS VERY COMPLICATED, AS YOU MIGHT SUSPECT.
UM, IT'S A COMBINATION OF STATE, LOCAL, FEDERAL DOLLARS.
UM, STATE FUNDING IS PROJECTED TO BE RELATIVELY FLAT, EVEN THOUGH YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD OF SOMETHING CALLED THE FAIR SCHOOL FUNDING ACT THAT, UH, WAS PART OF A SIX YEAR PHASE IN IT'S, IT'S REALLY NOT PROJECTED TO BE FULLY PHASED IN.
AND SO WHEN YOU'LL START LOOKING AT THOSE PROJECTIONS OF STATE REVENUE, IT'S REALLY WHAT WE ARE HEARING FROM OUR ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE, WE COUNT ON AND GO INTO FORECASTING, IS THAT THOSE DOLLARS ARE GONNA REMAIN RELATIVELY FLAT.
UM, THE EXPENDITURES, OF COURSE, ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO RISE WITHOUT ANY OR WITHOUT REDUCTIONS.
AND AGAIN, I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE FOR, FOR OUR, OUR LINE RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS THE DISTRICT IS THAT THAT DEFICIT SPENDING HAS STARTED IN FISCAL YEAR 22 AND WILL CONTINUE AT AN ACCELERATED RATE WITHOUT SOME KIND OF CHANGE.
WHETHER THAT'S A, AN INCREASE IN REVENUE OR DECREASE IN EXPENDITURES, REALLY BEGINNING IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
UM, IF WE DON'T DO THAT THERE, THAT WILL JUST RESULT IN A CONTINUING EROSION OF, OF OUR, OF OUR CASH BALANCE.
SO THE, I THINK GOING BACK, GOING BACK TO THE HISTORY SIDE OF IT, THIS COULD HAVE HAVE BEEN PROJECTED FOR QUITE A WHILE, THAT WE'RE HITTING A POINT OF DEFICIT SPENDING AND SOMETHING WILL NEED TO HAPPEN TO ADDRESS THAT, UH, IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
SO THAT IS WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE.
UM, PENNY, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD, UH, FROM, FROM YOUR, SEE, WE DID ALL THIS TOGETHER, SO THIS REALLY ISN'T, I'M NOT GONNA SAY ANYTHING THAT SHE DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW OR APPROVE.
UM, WE KNOW WHO THE BOSS IS,
IT'S, IT'S NOT GOOD INFORMATION TO RELATE, ACTUALLY.
SO, UM, JUST TO SPEAK, UH, IN A VERY BRIEF WAY ABOUT, UH, WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES, UH, FINANCIALLY FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, UH, WE SUFFER FROM, UH, SOME OF THE SAME, UH, WE'LL CALL IT CHALLENGES THAT THE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, UH, FACES, UH, IN PARTICULAR WITH RESPECT TO, UH, HOUSE BILL NINE 20, UH, FROM 1976.
SO WE HAVE THE SAME CAPS, UH, AND THE SAME LIMITATIONS RELATIVE TO OUR PROPERTY TAX.
UH, AND THERE IS A LIMITATION ON, UH, ON THE CITY WITH REGARD TO HOW MUCH, UH, WE CAN COLLECT FROM OUR, UH, OUR MILLAGE RATE.
SO, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO THE SCHOOL.
WE CAN COLLECT NO MORE TODAY, UH, THAN WHAT WE COLLECTED, UH, THE DAY THAT THAT PARTICULAR, UH, MEASURE WENT ON THE BALLOT.
SO WE FACE THAT CHALLENGE AS WELL.
AND AS A RESULT, UH, FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON, UH, WHEN THEY'RE PAYING THEIR TAX DOLLAR, UH, TO THE COUNTY TREASURER, THE CITY IS TAKING ABOUT 6 CENTS OF THAT DOLLAR.
UH, AND, UM, BECAUSE OF THAT, WE ARE A COMMUNITY THAT RELIES, UH, HEAVILY ON THE INCOME TAX.
AND WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE, UH, OVER TIME THAT OUR ECONOMY HERE CONTINUES TO, TO DO WELL.
UH, AND WE FIND OURSELVES IN A, IN A STRONG AND STABLE POSITION.
UH, IT'S A POSITION THAT WE'VE HAD FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS HERE AT THE CITY.
UM, SO OUR REVENUES CONTINUE TO GROW AND THAT GROWTH MATCHES OUR, UH, GROWTH AND EXPENSE.
UH, BUT, UH, JUST LIKE PROPERTY TAX MILLAGE, UH, EVERY NOW AND THEN, WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE VOTERS AND AFFIRM OUR INCOME TAX, UH, RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO US OR,
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AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE AVAILABLE TO US.WE FIND OURSELVES IN THAT POSITION NOW.
UM, WE AS THE STAFF ARE GETTING READY TO, UH, ADVISE COUNSEL ON A PLAN TO RENEW TWO LEVIES, UH, INCOME TAX LEVIES THAT WENT ON THE BALLOT ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO.
UH, AND THOSE BALLOTS, UH, AND EXCUSE ME, THOSE MEASURES ARE ABOUT TO EXPIRE, UH, IN THE NEXT, UH, 12, 18 MONTHS.
UH, AND WE'VE PUT TOGETHER OUR PLAN, UH, AT THE STAFF LEVEL, AT LEAST THE PLAN THAT WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL.
UH, WE'VE BEGUN PUTTING THAT TOGETHER AND WE'LL BE INTRODUCING THAT TO COUNCIL.
SO WE'LL HAVE MEASURES ON THE BALLOTS HERE, UH, PROBABLY, UM, AS EARLY AS THE MAY PRIMARY.
UH, AND THEN, UH, AGAIN, IN THE MAY PRIMARY, WHAT WOULD BE 2024 IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
NOW, UH, WAITING ON, UH, FINAL INFORMATION AND CONSULTATION FROM THE LAW DIRECTOR.
BUT THOSE WILL BE RENEWALS, THOSE WILL NOT BE INCREASES, UH, OR NEW LEVY MEASURES.
THOSE WILL BE, UH, A REPEAT, UH, OR A RENEWAL OF EXISTING, UH, TAX MEASURES.
AND THOSE MEASURES, UH, LARGELY SUPPORT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY.
UH, SO THAT IS MONEY THAT GOES TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE ADEQUATE RESOURCES FOR, UH, FIRE, EMS, UH, AS WELL AS FOR, UH, POLICE, INCLUDING, UH, OUR PORTIONS AND CONTRIBUTIONS TOWARDS, UH, BENEFITS, UH, SUCH AS THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES, UM, FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT.
AND LIKE I SAID, THOSE REVENUES CONTINUE TO DO WELL.
UH, WE BEGIN TAKING A LOOK AT SOME OF THAT INFORMATION.
SO, UH, THE BACKGROUND TO THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAD BEEN TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN TONIGHT'S, UH, MEETING WAS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST, UH, GROWTH IN AN ECONOMY THAT IS, UH, THE PROFESSIONAL POSITIONS OF THE ECONOMY, BUT, UH, AS WELL AS IN THE LABOR COMPONENT OF THE ECONOMY.
AND WE'RE BEGINNING TO SEE THOSE DEMOGRAPHICS MANIFEST THEMSELVES, UH, WITHIN OUR, OUR REVENUE STREAMS AS WELL.
SO, UH, WE THINK THAT THAT'S VERY ENCOURAGING ABOUT THE TYPE OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO SEE HERE WITHIN THE CITY AND HOW THAT RELATES TO OUR INCOME.
UH, OVERALL, UH, AS I SAID, WE'RE IN A STRONG AND HEALTHY FINANCIAL CONDITION AS A COMMUNITY.
WE'VE SPENT, UH, A GREAT DEAL OF TIME, EFFORT, AND ENERGY INVESTING IN OURSELVES, PUTTING IN, UH, GOOD SOLID INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS OCCURRED OVER THE LAST, UH, 10, 15 YEARS.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, UH, WE'VE SEEN ALL OF THE SUCCESS, UH, BUT NOW THAT THOSE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE, IT'S TIME AS A COMMUNITY THAT WE BEGIN TO PIVOT, UH, OUR, UH, OURSELVES, UH, FROM A BUILD, BUT TO A MAINTAIN, UH, TO A MAINTAIN FOCUS.
SO WE FIND OURSELVES IN A PLACE NOW WHERE, UH, THE RESOURCES THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, AVAILABLE TO US, UH, THAT WE'VE INVESTED IN THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, AND WE ARE NOW BEGINNING TO REALLOCATE THAT INTO PERSONNEL, UH, AND THAT IT'S NECESSARY FOR US TO DO THAT, TO TAKE CARE OF THESE GREAT THINGS THAT WE'VE BUILT, UH, THAT HELP SUPPORT, UH, THE LIFESTYLE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ENJOY, UH, THAT HELPS SUPPORT THE LIFESTYLE THAT OUR NEW RESIDENTS ENJOY, UH, BECAUSE, UH, THIS IS A GREAT COMMUNITY IN WHICH TO, IN WHICH TO LIVE.
UM, WE DO HAVE AN OUTSTANDING EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY HERE, UH, NOT JUST THROUGH, UM, UH, HUBER HEIGHTS CITY SCHOOLS, BUT ALSO THROUGH THE PRESENCE OF ST.
CLAIR COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND BEING IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO, TO OTHER LEARNING INSTITUTIONS.
UH, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE ROADS THAT PEOPLE UTILIZE TO GET TO THOSE EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES, THAT PEOPLE, UH, WHO UTILIZE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, TO GET TO THOSE, UH, HIGHER EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES, THAT THOSE THINGS ARE INCAPABLE, UH, SHAPE, UH, AND IN GOOD CONDITION FOR, FOR THEIR USE.
SO, UM, WE WANT TO BE HELPFUL AND SUPPORTIVE, UH, OF THE DISTRICT, UH, IN HELPING YOU OBTAIN, UH, ALL OF THE GOALS, GOALS AND OBJECTIVES THAT YOU NEED TO REACH, UH, TO ENSURE THAT YOU CAN SUSTAIN THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING HERE.
UH, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE SUPERINTENDENT AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BREAK BREAD, UH, UH, NOT TOO LONG AGO, UH, AT ROTARY.
UH, AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS GETTING TOGETHER, UH, TO COORDINATE AND TO DISCUSS WHAT OUR RELATIONSHIP LOOKS LIKE MOVING FORWARD, UH, TO ENSURE THAT THE FINANCIAL INTERESTS OF THE CITY, UH, AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ARE PROTECTED, UH, AND THOUGHT ABOUT AS WE GO INTO THE FUTURE TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE WORKING COLLABORATIVELY, UH, UH, TO GUARANTEE THAT OUR RESOURCES CONTINUE TO BE AVAILABLE TO US, UH, AND NOT COMPETITIVELY FOR THOSE RESOURCES BECAUSE, UH, THE SCHOOL SUCCESS IS OUR SUCCESS AND OUR SUCCESS IS THE SCHOOL'S SUCCESS.
SO, UH, I WILL, IN, IN THE FUTURE, UH, MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION AS WELL.
UH, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU, UH, THE SCHOOL BOARD, UH, AND CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES AS A COMMUNITY, UH, AND HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE SCHOOL AND SUPPORT THE INTEREST OF THE SCHOOL, UH, IN THE BEST INTEREST OF SUPPORTING OUR OWN INTERESTS.
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I GUESS ANITA, OR WAS IT DON OR BO? ANITA, ARE YOU GUYS, ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT HAVING A LOVE COMING OUT HERE? SAM? WHAT'S THAT MEAN?AND THERE HASN'T BEEN A LEVEE PASS OPERATING LEVEE IN 18 YEARS.
I KNEW COMING ON TO THE BOARD, THE CHANCES WERE SOONER OR LATER YOU'RE GONNA RUN OUTTA MONEY.
BUT I'LL GIVE KUDOS TO THOSE THAT WENT BEFORE ME AND DID THE JOB THAT NOBODY WANTED TO DO TO KEEP US AFLOAT AND KEEP THAT CASH BALANCE AND RESERVE WHERE IT'S AT.
CUZ IT'S GONNA CARRY US DOWN THE DOWNHILL SLIDE, YOU KNOW, SOONER OR LATER YOU ALWAYS RUN OUT.
BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE THAT AND I'LL, UH, I'LL GIVE KUDO TO 'EM.
THEY TOOK A LOT OF FLACK BACK THEN AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY DID A GOOD JOB.
SO IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT CHART, UH, THAT WE HAD CREATED, UH, LOOKING BACK RIGHT THERE, UM, THERE WAS A REASON FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.
UM, YOU KNOW, I LOVE DATA, BUT DATA SPEAKS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING ALL THIS OTHER DATA THAT WE HAVE COMING AT IS WE'RE GONNA KNOW IN DECEMBER, JANUARY TIMEFRAME TO BUILD A FORECAST AND BE MORE ACCURATE ON THINGS.
UH, BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD.
WHEN MR. BOTSO AND I WERE ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME, WE HAD TO CUT OVER $14 MILLION OUT OF THIS BUDGET BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET LEVIES TO PASS, WE COULDN'T GET ANYTHING TO PASS.
AND WE'RE IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN THAT STATE WHERE STATE TAKEOVER, WELL, HAVING THE GOOD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE STATE WAS THEY'RE JUST GONNA CUT THE SAME THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WE NEED TO DO ANYWAY TO GET TO THEIR MINIMUMS. SO DO WE LET THEM TAKE OVER OR DO WE KEEP CONTROL? WE DECIDED TO KEEP CONTROL.
SO THAT'S WHY WE MADE THOSE HARD DECISIONS AT THE TIME.
BUT THEN KNOWING THAT WE MADE THOSE DECISIONS, WHAT DID THAT MEAN AS WE WOULD FUTURE THAT OUT? SO THAT'S WHY THIS WAS REALLY CREATED BACK IN THAT TIME TO SEE WHAT DID WE KNOW FROM HISTORY MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
WHAT IS CYCLICAL, WHAT'S NOT CYCLICAL? UM, THERE OTHER, THERE'S OTHER DATA BEHIND THIS OF CHANGING OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF POLITICAL THOUGHT PROCESSES ON HOW THINGS ARE FUNDED.
I DO HAVE A LOT OF STUFF BACK BEHIND THIS.
SO KNOWING IF IT'S GOING FROM ONE POLITICAL PARTY TO ANOTHER POLITICAL PARTY AND WHAT HAPPENS TO IT, THERE'S SOME BACKBONE BEHIND THIS.
AND WHAT INTEREST, WHAT WAS VERY INTERESTING WAS THAT WE ACTUALLY FORECASTED EXACTLY TO BE WHERE WE ARE AT TODAY.
WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GONNA COME TO THIS PINNACLE ABOUT THIS TIME UNLESS SOMETHING HAPPENED.
EITHER A CHANGE OF BUDGETS FROM THE STATE CHANGE OF THE FUNDING FORMULAS, SOMETHING HAD TO CHANGE OR SOME OTHER REVENUE INCREASE OR CHANGES, WHICH COULD IN EFFECT COULD BE A LEVY.
WE HAVEN'T MADE THAT DECISION.
WE'RE LOOKING THROUGH THE DATA, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT WE ARE, WE DO KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA GO INTO DEFICIT SPEND UNLESS WE CUT COSTS OR GET REVENUE COMING IN.
ONE OF THE OTHERS GOT TO HAPPEN, AND I HEARD THE MAY TIMEFRAME.
WELL, WE KIND OF IN THIS FORECAST OVER HERE THAT PRETTY MUCH SAID WE SHOULD BE GOING IT IN MAY.
THIS WAS CREATED A LONG TIME AGO.
WE KIND OF KNEW THAT THIS YEAR WAS KIND OF IT, YOU KNOW, WE CARRIED THIS FROM 2005 TO NOW, AND WE'VE SEEN IN THE OTHER CHARTS WHERE THE EFFECTIVE MILAGE HAS DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE REVENUES.
WE REALLY, REALLY NEED TO DO WHAT WE KNOW IS REALLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR STUDENTS.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS TO HAVE HERE, BUT I THINK THE TIME'S IT'S, IT'S COMING.
SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE PUTTING A LEVEE ON IT AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, PROBABLY THE SOONER THE BETTER OR WE GOTTA FIND OTHER REVENUE STREAMS, SOMETHING'S GOTTA GIVE.
WE'RE THERE, IS THERE ANY OEA, UM, IS OEA OR ANYONE IN COLUMBUS EVEN LOOKING AT REPEALING THE HOUSE BILL THAT'S THAT'S FROZEN EVERY, WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT? WELL, YEAH, I KNOW, BUT I HAD TO ASK, WE'RE DICTATED A MYRIAD OF LAWS THAT COME FROM THOSE REPRESENTATIVES.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY IN THE BEST INTEREST OF STUDENTS THROW
SO BASED ON, BUT FOR, SO UNDERSTANDING THIS, SO THE WHAT GROWTH THAT THE CITY HAS SEEN OVER, LET'S CALL THE SAME, THE LAST 18 YEARS, THE SCHOOLS ARE NOT BENEFITING FROM ANY OF THE NEW TAX REVENUE, FROM NEW DEVELOPMENTS.
SO, SO IF, IF A LEVEE DOES PASS AND YOU GET TO CAPTURE TODAY, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING ELSE, WE CAN GET OUR ARMS BACK AROUND EVERYTHING ON, ON ALL OF THE, WE'VE BEEN OPERATING ON $2,005, NOT 2005 PERCENTAGES, $2,005.
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EVERY NEW TAXABLE BUILDING THAT'S GONE UP IN THE LAST 18 YEARS, THE SCHOOLS ARE GETTING $0 ZERO ON, BECAUSE THAT'S THE LAST TIME THE OPERATING LEVEE WAS APPROVED.SO THE MILL IS BASED ON THAT TIMEFRAME, THE DOLLAR PEOPLE LEVY PASSES.
NOW YOU WOULD CAPTURE ALL OF THE NEW TAX, ALL THE NEW TAX BASES.
AND THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID BECAUSE PEOPLE LOOK AT ALL THE NEW DEVELOPMENT AND THEY THINK, WELL, THERE'S SCHOOL'S GETTING ALL THIS REVENUE FROM IT.
AND QUITE HONESTLY, I DID NOT REALIZE THAT YOU WERE GETTING THAT.
SO EDUCATION IS THE KEY, RIGHT? SO EDUCATION, EDUCATION IS KEY.
HOW MANY TIMES WILL YOU SAID THAT? WELL, BUT LET'S BE CLEAR, THE DISTRICT HAS SAID THAT.
I MEAN, THE ME HAVE YOU HEARD THAT MESS? I HEARD, YES.
I MEAN IT'S EVEN WITH EVERY LEVY CAMPAIGN THAT THAT MESSAGE HAS, IT'S JUST WHETHER WHO HEARS IT OR UNDERSTANDS IT, BECAUSE FINANCE CAN ALSO, I WOULD ALSO ARGUE, BELIEVES IT, YES.
AND I, AND I, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT, THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER THING.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE BIT OF PAST HISTORY RECENT ON MY PART IN A DIFFERENT DISTRICT GOING THROUGH THIS, WELL THINK ABOUT KIDS.
I MEAN, PEOPLE HAD TO VERY YEARS AGO THERE WERE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT WERE SENIORS IN HIGH SCHOOL WHO ARE NOW 36 YEARS OLD AND HAVE KIDS IN THE DISTRICT SINCE THE LAST TIME THE LEVY WAS PASSED.
AND I, I WOULD ALMOST GUARANTEE YOU THOSE, SINCE THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY OF THE LEVY REQUESTS OR GONE ON SINCE THEN, THAT MESSAGE PROBABLY ISN'T RESONATING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE THE VOTERS WHO REALLY ARE THE ACTIVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE KIDS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT JUST AREN'T AWARE OF, OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.
SO, AND I WOULD, I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT WHILE WE'RE ON THIS TOPIC, AND I HOPE ANYBODY THAT'S LISTENING WILL, WILL HEAR THIS AND UNDERSTAND IT.
YOU KNOW, THAT YOU AND I FORGET WHO SAID IT ABOUT TAX BILLS GOING UP, AND THAT MIGHT VERY WELL BE TRUE, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE REVENUE TO SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS GONE UP AND YOU ONLY HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR TAX BILL TO SEE ALL THE TAXING ENTITIES THAT GET A PIECE OF PROPERTY TAX.
AND IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT 2, 3, 5 YEARS WORTH OF, OF PROPERTY TAX BILLS AND SEE THE CONSISTENCY IN WHICH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PIECE OF THAT IS VERSUS OTHERS, IT THAT, THAT TAXES DO GO UP, BUT THE REVENUE TO SCHOOLS STAYS AT THAT LEVEL.
NOW, IT MAY HAVE SLIGHT VARIATIONS BECAUSE OF MULTIPLE NINE 20, BUT RELATIVELY SPEAKING, THOSE ARE STAY NEARLY EXACTLY THE SAME.
AND SO YOU HAVE TO KIND OF PROVE THAT SOMETIMES TO PEOPLE AND, AND ASK FOR THAT.
I'VE WORKED
EVEN THOUGH THE ENTIRE TAX MAY BILL MAY GO UP, THE REVENUE TO DISTRICTS DOES NOT.
AND I, I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THERE'S MORE PEOPLE THAN NOT.
DON'T KNOW THAT, UH, GUARANTEE IT AGREED GLENN AND I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE.
UM, SO, SO WE KNOW THAT PROPERS ARE GETTING REEVALUATED MM-HMM.
SO WHEN MY PROPERTY TAX GOES UP, I MEAN, WHICH IT'S GONNA GO UP SIGNIFICANTLY BECAUSE OF EVALUATIONS.
IF YOU GUYS DON'T GET HIGHER DOLLAR AMOUNT BASED ON A PERCENTAGE, WHERE'S IT GOING? BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST DIVVY BETWEEN PARTICULAR ENTITIES.
SO WHEN, WHEN THOSE VALUATIONS WHERE, WHERE, WHEN THOSE VALUATIONS GO UP, THAT EFFECTIVE MILLAGE GOES DOWN, THE MILLAGE GOES DOWN, BUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS WOULD INCREASE, WOULD, WOULD THEY NOT? OH, THEY REDUCE THOSE TO MATCH.
SO THEN WHERE WOULD THE EXTRA PHYSICAL DOLLARS GO THERE? THERE ARE A LOT OF, THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER TAXING ENTITIES THAN JUST THE SCHOOL.
BUT THE SCHOOL GETS IT AND CLAIRE GETS IT FOR THEIR LEV.
THE LIBRARY GETS IT FOR THEIR YES, EVERYBODY PERCENT GO SCHOOLS GETS IT.
DID YOU HAVE SCHOOLS GET THAT INCREASE IN THAT CONTEXT? I WOULD WANNA ADDRESS ANOTHER ONE OF THE MISCONCEPTIONS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M NOT AN ACCOUNTANT.
I'M GLAD, GLAD BARB THINKS IN TERMS OF DATA, I THINK A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
BUT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN WE FIRST WENT THROUGH THIS REDUCTION BACK IN 2012, 2013, THAT WAS A TERRIBLE TIME.
UM, AND WE GOT DOWN TO THE BARE BONES HOW THEY, THE PARTICIPATION FEES INCREASED, ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF HAD TO DECREASE ALL KINDS OF EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.
AND SINCE THEN WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BRING A LOT OF THOSE THINGS BACK.
WE, PARTICIPATION FEES, WE HAVE MORE PROGRAMS. BUT THE KEY PART IS THAT BECAUSE OF HOW STATE FUNDING BENEFITED US, IT WAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LOCAL FUNDING.
IT WAS BECAUSE STATE FUNDING WAS, WAS ADVANTAGEOUS TO US AND WE COULD PROTECT, UH, ENOUGH INCREASES THAT WERE ABLE TO BRING THESE THINGS BACK AND THINK IN GOOD FAITH WE CAN SUSTAIN THESE PROGRAMS, THESE JOBS AND SO FORTH TO BRING THEM BACK.
BUT NOW I SEE THE SITUATION AS IT'S BEING AT LEAST ANTICIPATED THAT THE STATE FUNDING'S GONNA BE PRETTY MUCH
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LEVEL.AND SO THEN WHEN IT STARTS LOOKING AT, AT SALARY INCREASES AND COST OF EVERYTHING ELSE, THEN YOU START SEEING, WELL, OKAY, IF IF THIS, IF THE STATE REVENUE THAT'S BENEFITED US DOESN'T HAPPEN, THEN WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT A WHOLE DIFFERENT MODEL.
AND THAT'S WHY SOME OF THIS STUFF YOU SAW THAT THAT CURVE ACTUALLY WENT OUT A FEW YEARS OF WHERE IT WAS PROJECTED ONCE UPON A TIME JUST BECAUSE OF HOW THE FUNDING HAS, HAS BEEN, BEEN BENEFICIAL TO US.
BUT WITHOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT PICTURE AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO AVOID HAVING TO DO THE KIND OF DRACONIAN CUTS WE DID BEFORE 14 MILLION AND OVER A HUNDRED EMPLOYEES.
AND WE DON'T EVER WANNA HAVE TO GET TO THAT POINT.
SO AT LEAST WE WANT TO MITIGATE THAT SOME.
SO AT LEAST IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S MORE, UH, SUSTAINABLE AND SOMETHING'S GONNA BENEFIT OUR STUDENTS AND OUR COMMUNITY.
PENNY, WEREN'T YOU SAYING THAT EVEN WITH THE FAIR SCHOOL FUNDING ACT THAT THEY'RE SAYING NOW, IT'S NOT EVEN GONNA BE FUNDED? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
IT WAS EVERYTHING THAT SCHOOLS GET IS A FUNCTION OF HOW MUCH DOES THE STATE OF OHIO DECIDES TO PUT IN THEIR BUDGET FOR SCHOOLS.
SO NO MATTER WHAT MECHANISM YOU USE, WHAT FORMULA YOU USE TO DIVVY THAT MONEY UP AGAIN, UM, TO ALL THE DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICT TYPES AND EVERYTHING IN THE STATE, IT'S ALL A FUNCTION OF HOW MUCH THE STATE IS WILLING TO PUT IN.
AND MOST RECENTLY THEY INCREASED THEIR LIMITS ON THEIR RAINY DAY FUND AND CHOSEN NOT TO OPT TO GIVE THE SCHOOLS MORE FUNDING FOR THIS NEXT GO AROUND.
NOW, UM, WE'RE IN THE LA DUCK SESSION PRETTY MUCH RIGHT NOW, AND THEN STARTING IN JANUARY, THEY SHOULD START WORKING ON THEIR BIUM BUDGET.
ONCE THEY START WORKING ON THEIR BIUM BUDGET, WE SHOULD GET MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET.
BUT WE, WE PROBABLY WON'T KNOW MUCH UNTIL JUNE 30TH AND THEN WE CAN UPDATE OUR FIVE YEAR, WELL, WE HAVE TO UPDATE IT IN MAY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT DEADLINE DOESN'T HELP US TOO MUCH, BUT IT'LL HELP US COME THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.
I THINK YOUR CITY MANAGER HEADS ON THE CELLULAR.
I I WAS JUST GOING TO TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE THAT, UM, MIGHT RELATE FOR MY FOLKS, FOR YOU, FOR THE FOLKS AT HOME THAT ARE ARE WATCHING OR LISTENING.
UM, SO TO YOUR QUESTION, WHY DOES MY TAX BILL GO UP IF MY, IF THE CITY COLLECTS NO MORE? RIGHT? SO, UH, THE BEST EXAMPLE I COULD GIVE IS CITY COUNCIL JUST HAD A BRIEFING FROM REPRESENTATIVES OF ST.
AND IF YOU LOOK OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE SIGNS SAY ST.
WELL, THAT ACTUALLY SHOULD SAY IT WON'T RAISE YOUR TAX RATE.
SO THEY ARE RENEWING THE RATE.
BUT OVER TIME, WHAT HAS HAPPENED FROM WHEN THAT PARTICULAR MEASURE WENT ON THE BALLOT, SO LET'S SAY IT WENT ON THE BALLOT 10 YEARS AGO, YOUR PROPERTY'S GONE THROUGH A REEVALUATION THREE SEPARATE TIMES, MOST LIKELY THE VALUATION WENT UP.
SO WHEN THAT MEASURE IS RENEWED, UM, THAT CAPTURES NOT ONLY ALL OF THE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY VALUE THAT'S BEEN ADDED WITHIN THE TAXABLE JURISDICTION OF SINCLAIR, IT ALSO CAPTURES THAT INCREASED VALUE THAT HAS BEEN ADDED OVER THOSE TRIENNIAL VALUATIONS.
AND THAT'S WHY YOUR TAX BILL GOES UP WHEN YOU RENEW THESE VARIOUS PROPERTIES.
SO THEY'RE CAPTURING THE ADDITIONAL VALUE IN YOUR PROPERTY AND EXISTING PROPERTIES WITHIN THE DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE ADDITIONAL VALUES THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED.
SO EVERY TIME THAT, UM, THE COUNTY, UM, RENEWS LEVEE, EVERY TIME THAT THE CITY RENEWS, EVERY, EVERY TIME THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD RENEW THE LEVEE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.
IT WOULD CAPTURE NOT ONLY THE NEW VALUE, BUT IT WOULD CAPTURE THE INCREASE IN VALUE AND THEN THAT WOULD HOLD STEADY FOR AND A DEFINITE PERIOD UNTIL THAT TIME THAT THE LEVEE WAS RENEWED.
SO THAT'S WHY, AND SEVEN YEARS AGO WE SAW WITH THE LIBRARY, RIGHT? THE COUNTY OF THE LIBRARY PASSED THE LEVEE.
CORRECT? WELL, JUST A COUPLE YEARS AGO, METRO PARKS, UH, HAD PASSED, HAD PASSED THE NEW LEVEE.
SO OUT OF THE, WHAT'S THE EFFECTIVE RATE TO THE SCHOOLS? ABOUT 65 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR, 62 CENTS IN THE DOLLAR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THE, OR 42 OR, YEAH, SO THEN EVERY COUNTY AND ALL THE OTHER DIFFERENT HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICE, LEVS, LIBRARIES, PARKS, ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS ALL COME OUT, OUT, COME OUT OF IT.
SO COME THE FIRST OF THE YEAR WHEN ALL THOSE ENTITIES GET A NICE INCREASE, EVERYBODY WILL GET THAT.
BUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, RIGHT? SO THE RIGHT, RIGHT NOW THE EFFECTIVE RATES FOR JUST THE TOP EFFECTIVE RATES FOR THE, UH, THE SCHOOL, UM, IS 48.3, THE COUNTY IS 15.7.
UM, AND THEN, UH, THE, THE CITY IS, IS FIVE, FIVE MILLS IS WHAT? BUT IF YOU WERE TO LOOK ON WHAT IS THE ACTUAL LEVIED MILLAGE, IT'S ALMOST 11 FOR, FOR THE CITY.
SO WE'RE ROUGHLY GETTING HALF OF WHAT THE ACTUAL TAX LEVEE IS THE VOTED MILLAGE TO ACCOUNT FOR, RIGHT? YOU CAN EARN NO MORE TODAY THAN YOU EARNED ON THE DAY THAT
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THE LEVEE WENT INTO EFFECT.AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SUFFERING FROM WHERE, SO EVERYONE WHO IN THE STATE OF OHIO.
SO, UM, THAT'S OUR, THAT WAS OUR STATE'S RESPONSE TO THE HYPERINFLATION IN THE SEVENTIES.
OTHER STATES WENT ABOUT IT A DIFFERENT WAY, BUT THIS IS HOW OHIO WENT ABOUT IT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.
YEAH,
SO IF THERE'S AN, AN EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ABOUT HOW ALL THIS WORKS, RIGHT? THEN IT, IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT THE PEOPLE REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS.
SO CUZ IF THEY DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS, THEN THEY'RE NOT, ANY DECISION THEY MAKE ISN'T GONNA BE AN INFORMED DECISION.
AND I THINK THAT THAT IS, THAT HAS GOTTA, THAT HAS GOTTA BE A KEY.
UM, I I KNEW THERE WERE DIFFERENCES IN THE EFFECT OF MILITATE BASED ON WHAT THE, THE VOTING WAS.
BUT YEAH, WHEN, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW AND I CAN SAY LIKE, GLEN, WHAT THE TRUE EFFECT OF THAT IS ON HOW THOSE 30, 40 YEAR OLD LAWS ACTUALLY WORK, WHAT THE IMPACT WAS THAT THEY HAD.
SO I HAD AN IDEA ON REDUCED MILLAGE, BUT YOU DON'T SEE THE REAL EFFECTIVENESS OF THAT.
SO IRE I APPRECIATE ALL THE, THE INFORMATION THERE.
IT'S REALLY THE DEFINITION OF BEING ON A FIXED INCOME.
AND, AND REALLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE STATE FUNDING WORKS, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE REALLY OPERATING ON $2,005 AND CLEARLY IF WE ALL LOOK AT OUR OWN, OUR OWN FINANCES, WE, WE WOULDN'T SURVIVE VERY WELL IN WHAT WE WERE MAKING IN 2005 TODAY.
IT'S THE SAME, YOU KNOW, SO EXTRAPOLATE THAT TO, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC ENTITIES LIKE OURSELVES, IT'S A REAL STRUGGLE.
AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE FUNDED A DIFFERENT WAY BECAUSE OF THE INCOME TAX, WHICH WE DO NOT, BUT THAT RELIANT SOLELY ON, YOU KNOW, LOCAL PROPERTY TAX THAT WE ARE, WE ARE CAPPED FLAT AND THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY INCREASE.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING, UH, ON THE COUNCIL SIDE? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE, WE APPRECIATE, WE APPRECIATE THE WILLINGNESS TO GET TOGETHER AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET TOGETHER AGAIN AND MAKE IT MORE OF A REGULAR THING BUT NOT, UM, UH, SOMETHING WE LOOK FORWARD TO DOING.
SO, SO I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR TIME, SO THANK YOU.
WE BOTH HAVE HUBER HEIGHTS AND THE NAME
WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING AND, AND THE HELP AND THE FEEDBACK AND ALL THAT.
AND IT'S NICE TO SEE WHERE AT LEAST TO SHARE WITH THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, THAT REALLY GET IT AND UNDERSTAND AND, AND HAVE CONNECTION TO, TO KIND OF HELP OUT IN WAYS THAT THEY CAN AND EVERYBODY CAN HELP IN THEIR OWN CERTAIN WAYS.
YOU GUYS ARE A BIG COUNCIL AND WELL, I LOOK FORWARD TO HELP KIND OF SOME FEEDBACK ON BETWEEN BRIAN AND, AND AND MS. RES ON MM-HMM.
ON SOME OF THE SAFETY ISSUES AND HOW WE CAN COLLABORATE THERE.
I LOOK FORWARD THE FEEDBACK ON THAT, BUT CERTAINLY WE'LL LEAVE IT IN BOTH OF YOUR CAPABLE HANDS TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW TO IMPLEMENT THAT.
UM, AND WE'LL SUPPORT IT HOWEVER WE NEED TO.
IT'LL BE AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION TO SEE HOW THE PROPER GIS, UM, WHEN THAT COMES BACK YEAH.
THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION.
THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED YET, BUT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT BEING THE FIRST BOARD MEETING IN JANUARY.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE TIMELINE WE WE'RE BEING KIND OF TOLD RIGHT NOW.
AND WE HAVE ASKED, UH, MR. CROPPER TO COME BE ONSITE AND DO A PRESENTATION FOR, FOR THE BOARD AND FOR THE PUBLIC.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE WELCOME, WELCOME YOU TO BE HERE THAT EVENING TO HEAR IT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY RELEVANT FOR ALL OF YOU AS WELL.
IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, I'LL LET YOU GALL US CLOSED.