Oct 18, 2022 Council Work Session

WELCOME TO THE HE HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND

[1. Call Meeting To Order/Roll Call]

TODAY'S DATE IS OCTOBER 18TH, 2022, AND WE'RE GETTING STARTED RIGHT AT 6:00 PM UH, A NUMBER ONE AGENDA IS, UH, OUR ROLL CALL AND OFFICIALLY CALLS ME TO ORDER TONY, IF YOU WOULD.

[2. Approval of Minutes]

OUR APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

AND ITEM TWO A ARE MEETINGS, I'M SORRY, UH, MINUTES FROM OUR MEETING AND DATED OCTOBER 4TH, 2022.

THOSE MINUTES HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, CHANGES, THEY WILL STAND AS APPROVED.

AND IT NUMBER THREE IS OUR WORK SESSION TOPICS OF DISCUSSION THIS EVENING.

AND ITEM THREE A IS OUR

[ City Manager Report]

CITY MANAGER REPORT.

BRIAN, WELCOME BACK.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, JUST A FEW SHORT ITEMS FOR COUNSEL IN THE COMMUNITY TONIGHT.

I WANTED TO LET COUNSEL KNOW THAT THE WATER INTEGRITY STUDY, UH, WAS, UH, WAS PROVIDED TO THE CITY, UM, UH, ON THE, UH, SECOND DEADLINE.

UM, IT IS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW BY THE ENGINEER, AND I EXPECT A FULL BRIEFING FROM THE ENGINEER, UH, SUMMARY BRIEFING FROM THE ENGINEER, UH, LATE NEXT WEEK OR EARLY THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 31ST.

AND BASED ON THAT, WE'LL UPDATE YOU, UH, WITH THE INFORMATION AS APPROPRIATE.

UH, ALSO WANTED TO LET COUNSEL KNOW THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE RELIANCE STUDY, UH, THIS IS THE, UH, STUDY WE HAD COMMISSIONED BY LOCKWOOD JONES, EXCUSE ME, LJB, UH, TO HELP US IDENTIFY WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, OUTSIDE OF TIF DISTRICTS, UH, ARE NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THOSE TIF DISTRICTS.

SO THIS IS A WAY TO TRY AND LEVERAGE, UH, OUR, UH, OUR, UH, FINANCIAL RESOURCES FROM THOSE DISTRICTS.

SO THAT STUDY'S ALSO BEEN DELIVERED, UH, AND THAT'S ON MY DESK AND CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW, UH, FOLLOWING, UH, THAT, UH, REVIEW WILL REPORT TO COUNSEL AGAIN AS APPROPRIATE.

UH, AND THEN FOR, UH, THE COMMUNITY, IF ALL THIS TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE WEATHER HAS YOU DOWN, UH, THE FALL FAMILY FESTIVAL IS THIS WEEKEND, THE 22ND, UH, OVER AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER ON POWELL ROAD.

THAT EVENT IS FROM THREE TO SEVEN, AND THERE'LL BE FACE PAINTING, BOUNCY HOUSES, HOT DOGS, AND MANY OTHER ACTIVITIES FOR, UH, UH, ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE FAMILY.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR COUNSEL, SIR, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING COUNSEL HAS FOR ME.

THANKS, BRIAN.

ANY QUESTIONS? YES, ED.

UM, BRIAN, YOU MENTIONED THE STUDY FOR THE TIFF.

YES, SIR.

UH, WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THAT AGAIN? UH, THAT IS THE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE RELIANCE STUDY.

AND HOW MUCH WAS THAT STUDY? UH, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK, SIR.

CAN YOU GIMME A BALLPARK? I PREFERRED THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK AND LOOK SO I CAN GIVE YOU AN EXACT NUMBER.

I PROMISE I WON'T HOLD YOU AGAINST IT, UNFORTUNATELY.

I JUST CAN'T DO THAT, SIR.

BUT, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, AND THE, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, UH, WAS THE WATER LINING IN, UH, INVESTIGATION, UH, WATER LINING RESEARCH.

UM, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT IN QUITE A WHILE.

UM, CAN YOU UPDATE US ON THAT? UH, MY APOLOGIES.

I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THAT INFORMATION HAD BEEN PROVIDED TO COUNSEL, BUT I'LL HAVE A QUICK DISCUSSION WITH, UH, THE, UH, CITY ENGINEER AND WE'LL GET SOMETHING BACK OUT TO Y'ALL.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, BRIAN MUCH.

SURE.

B, WHICH IS OUR MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION UPDATE.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE

[ Military And Veterans Commission Update]

HOW ARE YOU, SIR? FINE.

SO VERY WELL.

TO SPEAK, WHERE THE ENLISTED, THE WARRANT OFFICERS, THEY'RE ON THE GROUND, BOOTS ON THE GROUND WHERE REALITY EXISTS.

GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

THANKS.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

MY NAME IS KEY SOUND.

LASTLY, I AM THE CHAIR, MILITARY AND VETERAN'S COMMISSION.

WE'RE HERE TO JUST GIVE A SYNOPSIS OF EVENTS THAT WE HAVE SUPPORTED OR ATTENDED FOR THIS YEAR.

SO, UH, OUR, OUR BIG, BIG PAYDAY EVENTS IS MEMORIAL DAY AND VETERAN'S DAY, OBVIOUSLY.

SO FOR MEMORIAL DAY, UH, I WILL BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T THANK MR. WEBB FOR STANDING IN YOUR, IN THE MAYOR'S STEAD, UH, WHEN WE HAD OUR, UH, MEMORIAL DAY CELEBRATION.

SO THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, WE ALSO, AT THAT TIME, WE UNVEILED OUR MILITARY VETERANS, VETERANS MILITARY HONOR COINS.

UH, WE HAD SOME COINS MADE, AND I PRESENTED THE FIRST ONE AT THAT EVENT.

WE DO HAVE SOME CATCHING UP TO DO, CUZ WE HAD 'EM LAST YEAR AS WELL.

AND THERE'S SOME MEMBERS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY GET ONE.

UH, ONE IS, UH, COLONEL CASSIE BARLOW.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE RECOGNIZE HER.

AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE STAFF SERGEANT'S NAME, BUT WE HAD A LOWER ENLISTED MEMBER THAT GAVE OUR SPEECH, WHICH RAYEL WAS REALLY IMPORTANT AND WE DID AS WELL BECAUSE IT WAS A PERSPECTIVE FROM A LOWER ENLISTED SOLDIER AND NOT ALWAYS COLONELS IN GENERALS.

UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MAY NOT KNOW IN THE MILITARY, YOU KNOW, THERE SOMETIMES IN THE CLOUD, SO

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OKAY? SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF THAT.

THEN, UM, WE DID GO THROUGH THE YEAR, WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE COMMISSION, TO THE COUNCIL, RATHER, THAT, UM, WE DID MISS SOME MEETINGS BECAUSE OF COVID.

WE HAD MEMBERS THAT HAD SURGERY, ET CETERA.

AND JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T MEET, I DON'T, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR OTHER COMMISSIONS, BUT FOR US, WE DO THINGS BEHIND THE SCENES.

WE, WE, WE, WE MAKE THINGS HAPPEN THROUGH EMAILS.

NOT, NOT A QUORUM, JUST A FEW MEMBERS MAKING SURE THINGS HAPPEN TO KEEP US ON TRACK AND TO KEEP US FOCUSED.

SO I, TO CLARIFY THAT, YES, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL KNEW THAT.

UM, BECAUSE I DID SEE THE ONE SESSION WHERE Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT MERGING AND I WAS LIKE, OH, I HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

SO, UM, WE ARE STILL MAKING THINGS HAPPEN EVEN THOUGH WE MAY NOT MEET.

UM, THE JULY 4TH THING WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE DIDN'T GET TO MEET.

SO I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A EXPRESS CONCERN THAT THEY WANTED US TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.

BUT WHEN I REACHED OUT TO THE CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, THEY SAID, THEY TOLD ME THEY COULDN'T SUPPORT IT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE PULLED BACK AND SAID, OKAY, WE DIDN'T MEET IN JUNE.

AND THEN WE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE DID IT LAST YEAR, BUT THERE WAS SOME BACK AND FORTH, IF YOU WILL, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST CAUSE WE DID IT LAST YEAR.

WE DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS THE EXPECTATION THIS YEAR CETERA, ET CETERA.

BUT LONG STORY SHORT, UM, WE'LL HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS BEFORE JUNE SO WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AND MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON WHAT OUR EXPECTATION IS AND WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE FOR US REGARDING THAT.

JULY 4TH AT THE FRONT OF THE PARK, NOW MIKE DID SHARE WITH US THAT SOMETIMES THAT DATE WILL SHIFT.

SO IF THE 4TH OF JULY IS BEFORE THAT POINT, THEN MAYBE WE COULD PROBABLY DO IT, UM, AT THE MEMORIAL VERSUS IN FRONT OF THE PARK.

BUT ANY TIME THE FIREWORKS ARE GOING TO BE INVOLVED, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.

WE'LL BE DOING THE PARADE AT THE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE DOING THE FLAG RAISING AT THE FRONT SITE, UM, FOR WHERE WE ARE NOW AS FAR AS, UM, SEPTEMBER.

SO WE HAVEN'T HAD OUR MEETING THIS MONTH FOR SEPTEMBER.

WE WILL, WE HAVE SOME UPCOMING EVENTS.

UH, ONE OF THE EVENTS THAT WE ARE KICKING AROUND IN OUR GROUP IS TO HAVE A SUICIDE MARCH.

A RUCK, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, IS PUT ON THIS RUG SACK.

SOME PEOPLE ACT LIKE IT'S FILLED WITH WEIGHTS.

SOME PEOPLE HAVE IT FILLED WITH PILLOWS, BUT NONETHELESS IT WOULD BE LIKE A 12 MILE R MARCH IN THE CITY.

WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN DO THAT.

UH, ONE OF OUR, UH, NEWER MEMBERS WAS, THIS WAS HIS RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE OF SUICIDES IN FOUR VETERANS AND IN THE MILITARY AS WELL.

HE SAID HE HAD LOST TWO MEMBERS THAT HE SERVED WITH, UH, THAT HAD COMMITTED SUICIDE.

SO HE WANTED TO BRING AWARENESS TO THAT.

SO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT AS AN UPCOMING EVENT.

WE ALSO, AS A COMMISSION PARTICIPATED IN TWO HONOR FLIGHTS.

UH, RAY IS, IS THE, UH, HONOR COMMANDER OF THAT.

SO WE, AT THE LAST ONE, ME AND AL WERE REPRESENTING HUBER HEIGHTS MILITARY VETERANS COMMISSION FOR THAT EVENT.

AND THEN THE ONE WE HAD, WHEN WAS THAT? THE LAST HONOR FLIGHT.

WHEN? WHEN WAS THAT? 15TH.

15TH OF OCTOBER.

I'M ASKING HIM AND I'M THE YOUNG ONE, .

UM, BUT YEAH, SO, UH, ME AND UH, RAY, WERE AT THAT EVENT AS WELL.

WE ALSO SUPPORT OUR MIAMI VALLEY YOUNG MARINES.

WE SUPPORT WAYNE GERALD TC.

ANYTIME WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN EVENT, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO REACH OUT TO THEM TO INCLUDE THEM IN OUR ORGANIZATIONS.

SOME THINGS WE NEED TO WORK ON IS GETTING OUR VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS HERE IN HUBER HEIGHTS, AM VETS, AMERICAN LEGION VFW, TO KIND OF PARTICIPATE WITH US IN OUR MEETINGS.

WE WANT TO GET BACK TO HAVING GUEST SPEAKERS COME AND PROVIDE INFORMATION FOR THE VETERANS IN OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE US AWARE OF RESOURCES, ASSETS, ET CETERA, THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM, CUZ A LOT OF THEM DON'T KNOW.

AND WHAT ELSE? I'M GONNA HAVE RAY COME UP AND MAKE SOME, UH, COMMENTS FOR ANYTHING THAT I MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN.

BUT, UH, JUST APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

UM, I KNOW IN THE PAST YEAR, NANCY BURGE AND GLENN OTTO WERE COMING TO OUR MEETINGS

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LIKE IT WAS A CONTEST TO SEE WHO WOULD BE THERE.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT, FOR, FOR Y'ALL SHOWING UP AND, UM, SUPPORTING US AS A COMMISSION.

UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE, RAY BAM.

UH, THIS IS JUST A LITTLE ASIDE.

UH, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THIS MESSAGE AND SPECIFICALLY AIMED AT MR. ODO, WHO SHALL CARRY.

WHAT WORDS I AM ABOUT TO SAY BACK TO A PERSON THAT YOU MAY KNOW WHY WE WERE SITTING UP FRONT IN THE COMMISSION THE OTHER NIGHT, OR THE LAST MEETING.

A, A VERY NICE YOUNG LADY, FIRST NAME ANDY, UH, CAME BY WITH LITTLE CARDS THAT SIMPLY HAD A HEARTFELT MESSAGE OF APPRECIATION FOR VETERANS IN GENERAL.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THE MOTIVATIONAL EFFORTS TO KEEP PEOPLE GOING ON A, ON A GOOD AND NOBLE JOB IS JUST THE LITTLE TINIEST THING.

BUT, UH, WE WERE SINCERELY AND VERY HAPPILY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT NOTE.

SO IF YOU WOULD, UH, TAKE NOTE OF THAT.

AND MR. RADO, IF YOU'D MAKE A NOTE TO PASS THAT ON.

OH, UH, REMINDER FROM THE CHAIR, UH, WE RECENTLY HONORED A LADY NAMED MARY MCDERMOTT.

NOW, MARY MCDERMOTT IS A WAITRESS AT THE LONGHORN STEAK HOUSE RESTAURANT ON MILLER LANE AT THE INTERSECTION OF BENCH WOOD AND MILLER LANE, IF YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS.

ANYWAY, SHE'S ONLY A PART-TIME WAITRESS, BUT SOMEHOW OR OTHER SHE MADE ARRANGEMENTS WITH THE MANAGEMENT OF LONGHORN TO HOLD EVERY FIRST SATURDAY OF EVERY MONTH, A FREE BREAKFAST FOR ANY VETERAN IN THEIR FAMILY, ANY VETERAN WHATSOEVER IN THEIR FAMILY.

AND, UH, THE BREAKFAST IS REALLY QUITE COPIOUS.

I MEAN, YOU, YOU WALK OUTTA THERE, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, EVERYTHING, PANCAKES, SAUSAGE, EGGS, UH, HASH, YOU KNOW, JUST A GREAT BIG THING LIKE THE ORDER PLATTER.

AND SHE DOES IT ALL THE TIME, TAKES A PICTURE OF IT.

AND THEN AT THE END OF IT, UH, SHE EMPLOYS A WHOLE BUNCH OF YOUNG CHILDREN TO BE SERVERS.

AND SHE DOES IT WITH THE PURPOSE OF SHOWING THE CHILDREN THAT VETERANS SHOULD BE APPRECIATED, NUMBER ONE.

AND ALSO TO ENCOURAGE A SPIRIT OF PATRIOTISM.

AND THAT, UH, ONE OF THE KIDS SINGS TO NATIONAL ANTHEM.

MARY GETS UP AND GIVES A LITTLE SPEECH TO VETERANS.

SHE USUALLY CRIES, YOU KNOW, BUT SHE'S SO HEARTFELT ABOUT WHAT SHE DOES.

SO WE, WE TOOK IT UPON HERSELF TO HONOR HER FOR HER SERVICE, WHICH HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2016.

SO IT'S A PRETTY, YEAH.

SO ANY OF YOU WITH MILITARY EXPERIENCE FIRST SATURDAY, NINE O'CLOCK SHARP, YOU SNOOZE, YOU LOSE BECAUSE WHEN THE DOOR OPENS, THERE'S A BIG CROWD OF VETERANS RUNNING IN.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

HAVE YOU GUYS, UH, CONSIDERED GIVING HER A PLAQUE OR SOME KIND OF RECOGNI? WE DID.

DID, DID YOU? YEAH, WE ALL ALL DID THAT.

WE DID.

THAT'S WONDERFUL.

GAVE HER THE PLAQUE RECOGNITION AND YEAH, LIKE, ARE, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE YOU FOLKS AT THE, UH, VETERANS DAY CEREMONY? ARE WE GONNA HAVE A, FORGOT THAT.

I FORGOT THAT.

YEAH, SO VETERANS DAY, WE HAVE, I KNOW I WAS TALKING ABOUT BAD ABOUT OFFICERS IN GENERALS AND COLONELS, BUT WE DO HAVE A GENERAL, UM, WE HAVE A GENERAL THAT'S COMING TO BE OUR GUEST SPEAKER, UM, PUTTING TOGETHER THE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW.

MIAMI VALLEY YOUNG MARINES WILL BE PARTICIPATING.

WAYNE GERALD TC WILL BE PARTICIPATING BASICALLY OUR, OUR NORMAL, UH, VETERAN'S DAY PROGRAM, UM, BASED ON THE WEATHER TODAY.

OOF.

I DON'T KNOW, , YOU KNOW.

YEAH, I KNOW.

SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PROBABLY BE IN OVERALLS AND ALL THAT FUN STUFF, BUT, UM, WE'RE WORKING ON THE PROGRAM NOW, SO DEFINITELY WE'LL BE WE'LL BE CONDUCTING A THAT AGAIN.

RIGHT? THANK YOU.

YEP.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.

YES, THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? YES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE, NOT ONLY TO OUR COMMUNITY AND THE VETERANS COMMISSION, BUT ALSO, UH, FOR OUR ARMED FORCES.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

YES, THANK YOU, SIR.

THANKS, ED.

ANYONE ELSE? RIGHT? OKAY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AGAIN.

THANKS.

UM, ONE, JUST ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE VETERANS SERVICE.

WOULD IT BE THE 11TH HOUR? THE 11TH MONTH? THE 11TH? LIKE THAT WHOLE THAT IS, WE'RE GONNA GO WITH THAT THEME.

GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

SO OUR COMMISSION, WE VOTED I WAS A NAY, ONLY BECAUSE I KNEW SOMETHING THAT THEY PROBABLY WEREN'T AWARE OF.

CHILDREN, YOUNG PEOPLE GO TO SCHOOL ON VETERAN'S DAY.

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YES.

SO WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IS REACH OUT AGAIN, LIKE I TALKED ABOUT AM BETS, BFW, AMERICAN LEGION.

WE REACHED OUT TO THEM, DIDN'T REALLY HEAR, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO GET MORE ENGAGED WITH THEM, BASICALLY.

BUT LONG STORY SHORT, WE CHANGED IT BACK TO THE 1600.

CAUSE I HAD EXPRESSED TO THE COMMISSION OUR CONCERN, THE CITY'S CONCERN, NOT CONCERNS, LET ME REPHRASE.

THE CITY'S THE CITY BEING OFF CITY STAFF, CITY PERSONNEL BEING OFF THAT DAY, HAVING THEM WAIT TILL 1600 WHEN THEY'RE OFF.

IF WE CAN CHANGE IT TO A DIFFERENT TIME, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PREFER.

THE PROBLEM WAS WE WOULDN'T HAVE OUR MIAMI VALLEY YOUNG MARINES AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE WAYNE GERALD TC TO ASSIST US WITH THE PROGRAM.

SO THEN WE CHANGED THE TIME, WE TOOK A VOTE AND CHANGED THE TIME BACK TO 1600.

AND MAYOR, JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION.

ARE WE GONNA SELL BRICKS IN MEMORIAL BRICKS AT THE VETERANS MEMORIAL? DO WE WE DONE THAT YET.

I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP TOO.

OUR PLAN, MIKE CAN PULL MY SHIRT IF I'M INCORRECT, BUT OUR PLAN IS TO TRY FOR A NOVEMBER 11TH RELEASE OF THE FORM TO START TAKING ORDERS FOR THE BRICKS.

THE BRICKS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

UM, THERE WAS SOME HAGGLING OVER PRICING.

OF COURSE, WE, WE DON'T WANT TO BE A BURDEN ON THE CITY.

SO I THINK WE, WELL, I WON'T SAY WHERE WE ARRIVED AT, BUT IT IS AROUND THE SAME COST OR SIMILAR ESTIMATED COSTS OF OUR CURRENT MILITARY HONORS BANNER PROGRAM.

CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT I GET A COPY OF, OR COUNSEL GETS A COPY OF THAT BRICK FORM OF THE FORM? YES, I PASS OFF.

MIKE, THANK YOU SO MUCH GUYS.

I APPRECIATE YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS FOR HAVING US.

NUMBER THREE C, WHICH IS REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, THE 2023 NUISANCE AND MOWING ABATEMENT CONTRACTS.

HERE.

OKAY, NEXT UP IS ITEM

[ Request For Proposals - 2023 Nuisance Mowing/Abatement Contracts]

UH, YES SIR.

THIS, UH, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, UH, THE TITLE, UH, SPEAKS FOR ITSELF, BUT THIS IS ANNUAL REOCCURRING LEGISLATION, UH, THAT THIS BODY CONSIDERS, UH, THIS YEAR WILL BE INCREASING THE AMOUNT, UM, OF THE INITIAL ASK OR THE INITIAL PROPOSAL TO REFLECT PAST PRACTICE AND PAST HISTORY WITH CHARGES TO THIS PARTICULAR, UH, PURPOSE.

SO WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL, ENTERTAIN THIS LEGISLATION ON MONDAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS OR ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

WE'LL MOVE THIS ONTO MONDAY.

[ * Ordinance - Amending The Huber Heights Codified Ordinances Renaming Falls Creek Park To Philipps Park]

UP IS IEM 3D,

[ Falls Creek Park - Memorial Designation * Resolution - Renaming Falls Creek Park To Philipps Park]

WHICH IS THE FALLS CREEK PARK MEMORIAL DESIGNATION.

UH, YES, SIR, I WOULD, UH, DEFER TO, UH, JOSH KING, OUR PARKS MANAGER.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD.

IT WAS BROUGHT TO THEM ABOUT THE, UH, FALLS CREEK PROPERTY AND POSSIBLY CHANGING THE NAME OF THAT TO HONOR MR. UH, DENNY PHILLIPS, WHO PASSED AWAY NOVEMBER 1ST, 2020.

UM, AND THROUGH TRANSITIONING WITH SCOTT, LEAVING AND BRIAN COMING IN, UM, WE, WE KIND OF LOST TRACK OF THAT.

IT WAS BROUGHT BACK UP.

UH, WE DOUBLE CHECKED WITH THE BOARD.

IT WAS STILL THEIR WISH TO DO THAT.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU NOW.

UM, A SIGN WILL BE PLACED AT THE PROPERTY AND A PLAQUE IN MEMORIAL OF DENNY AS WELL ON THE BOULDER THAT CURRENTLY SITS ON DIAL ROAD OR ON THE PIECE ON DIAL ROAD.

UM, AND THOSE WILL BE INSTALLED NEXT WEEK, AND THEN WE WILL UNVEIL THEM ON HIS ACTUAL, UH, THE ANNIVERSARY OF HIS PASSING.

SO TWO ITEMS THERE.

ONE'S THE RESOLUTION THAT ACTUALLY RENAMES, UH, THE PARK, UH, TO PHILLIPS PARK.

AND THEN THE ORDINANCE, UH, THAT AMENDS OUR CAUGHT BY ORDINANCE IS CORRECT.

UH, YES, SIR.

TWO, TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.

YES, SIR.

SO ONE IS TO, UH, ACCOUNT FOR THE LISTING IN THE, UH, IN THE CODE, UH, OF ALL THE, UH, OF ALL THE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.

THAT'S THE ORDINANCE.

AND THEN THE, UH, RESOLUTION ITSELF IS THE ACTUAL AUTHORIZATION TO RENAME THE FACILITY.

AND THAT STUFF WILL BE INSTALLED NEXT WEEK.

AND THEN ON, UH, NOVEMBER 1ST IS THE DATE OF THE BAILING OF THE NAMES CORRECT? MM-HMM.

YES, SIR.

ANY QUESTIONS? IN ORDER TO MEET THAT DEADLINE? WE WOULD ASK THAT THE ORDINANCE, UH, THE SECOND READING BE WAIVED AND IT'D BE ADOPTED ON MONDAY, SO THAT ALL, EVERYTHING CAN BE IN PLACE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BY NOVEMBER.

IN PREPARATION FOR THE NOVEMBER 1ST DEADLINE.

ANY BURDEN? JUST WAIVING THE SECOND, NO EMERGENCY REQUIRED.

JUST, YEAH, JUST WAIT SEC.

THREE E, WHICH IS THE INCREASE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT FOR GREEN AND TECH.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON MONDAY'S MEETING? AND NEXT IS ITEM

[ Increase Not To Exceed Amount - Greentech - Contract Mowing]

AND THAT'S OUR, UH, CONTRACT FOR MOWING.

JOSH? UH, YEAH, SO THAT MOWING CONTRACT WAS SET, UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.

UH, WE'VE HAD ADDITIONAL WORK DONE, UH, AT THE ROSE, UH, BY GREEN TECH AS, AS WELL AS LOTS OF PROBLEMS WITH THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM.

THIS, WELL, THAT HAVE CAUSED

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US TO GO OVER THAT AMOUNT.

UH, SO THAT BEING SAID, WE NEED TO RAISE THAT AMOUNT SO WE CAN, UH, FINISH PAYING SOME BILLS WITH THEM FOR THE SEASON.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY.

AND X IS ITEM THREE F, WHICH

[ Request For Proposals - Public Works Division Facility]

IS THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION FACILITY, RUSS? YEP, IT'S MINE.

UM, THIS LEGISLATION WILL ALLOW TO SAY, TO GO OUT FOR RFPS, WHICH ARE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS TO OBTAIN A QUALIFIED ARCHITECT OR ENGINEERING FIRM TO DESIGN THE NEW PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, WHICH WILL BE LOCATED ON CENTER POINT 70 BOULEVARD AT THE CENTER POINT 70 COMMERCIAL PARK.

UM, WE HAVE A LOCATION MAP IN YOUR PACKET IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT THAT.

UH, THIS FACILITY WILL INCLUDE THE DESIGN FOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICES, FLEET REPAIR AND VEHICLE STORAGE, WAREHOUSE, EMPLOYEE SUPPORT AREAS, AND EMPLOYEE AND CUSTOMER PARKING.

UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY FINALIZING THE RFP AND WE'LL BE SENDING IT OUT SOON.

UH, AND THEN AFTER WE HAVE RECEIVED AND REVIEWED THE PROPOSALS, WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL REWARD.

OKAY, THANKS FOR US.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR US, NANCY? UH, PROBABLY CLOSE TO A YEAR AGO WE RECEIVED A CONCEPT DRAWING OF, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THE RESULT OF LIKE A WISHLIST OF, OF WHAT, UM, THE PUBLIC WORKS PEOPLE FELT THEY NEED FOR FACILITIES.

AND, UM, IS THIS IN LINE WITH THAT OR HAS IT BEEN SCALED DOWN, OR HOW ARE WE GOING FORWARD WITH THIS RFP? UH, WE DID RE WE DO HAVE, IT WAS A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS THAT A, UH, I THINK IT WAS AN ARCHITECTURAL FIRM HAD PUT TOGETHER, AND WE ARE USING THAT AS A BASE FOR OUR RFP.

SO ANYTHING THAT WAS IN THERE, WE ARE USING THAT.

WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL.

THANKS NANCY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, RICHARD? THANK YOU, ROACH.

YOU SAID THE RFP IS CURRENTLY BEING, UM, UH, FINALIZED AND WILL BE RELEASED SOON.

UM, WHAT IS YOUR, UM, BEST DEFINITION OF SOON AND WHAT IS THE TURN TIME ON THAT RFP? UH, ONCE IT'S SET OUT, UH, I WOULD SAY WITHIN A WEEK WE'LL BE FINISHED AND IT'LL PROBABLY GIVE HIM THREE, AT LEAST THREE WEEKS TO, UH, COME BACK FOR PROPOSALS.

SO W WITH THAT TIMELINE ESTABLISHED, UM, MY NEXT QUESTION, MAYOR, IF I MAY, UH, WILL BE TO BRIAN.

UM, WOULD IT BE YOUR ANTICIPATION TO HAVE THAT BACK IN FRONT OF COUNSEL BY THE NOVEMBER 22ND WORK SESSION? UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD HAVE IT TURNED AROUND IN TIME, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE.

UH, WE HAVE INCLUDED, UH, SUFFICIENT FUNDS IN THE 2023 BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR A FULL ENGINEERING ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE, UH, THE CIVIC CENTER AND THE SENIOR CENTER, UH, OVER AT, UH, HERITAGE COMMON.

SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET IT AWARDED IN 2022, UH, BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY IN A POSITION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S AWARDED IN THE FIRST MEETING OR TWO OF 2023 WITH, UH, THE FUNDS AVAILABLE.

E EVEN IF NOT THE 20, UM, 2ND OF NOVEMBER, UH, MAYBE EVEN THE FIRST WORK SESSION.

UH, AND I BELIEVE OUR ONLY WORK SESSION IN DECEMBER, UM, THAT WAY COUNSEL WILL BE ABLE TO REVIEW THAT.

UM, AND FOR AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, UH, FOR MAYBE TWO REVIEWS, TWO READINGS ON THAT, UM, TO PASS IN IN JANUARY.

UM, MAYOR, NEEDLESS TO SAY, I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS DONE SOONER READ AND LATER.

UM, A AS COUNCIL AND BURGE ALLUDED TO, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING, UH, THIS TO DEATH.

UM, I THINK OUR PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY AND, UH, ITS EMPLOYEES AND MEMBERSHIP AND OUR COMMUNITY DESERVE TO HAVE THIS DONE SOONER, READILY LATER.

UM, AND IF WE CAN, UH, WE CAN MOVE ON AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT DONE.

AND, AND I DON'T DISAGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF URGENCY AND, AND KIND OF MAKING SURE ALL THIS HAPPENS, AT LEAST I WOULD SAY IN AN EFFICIENT MANNER.

BUT, UH, I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO, WOULDN'T ASK BRIAN OR STAFF TO BRING SOMETHING BACK TO US THAT ISN'T FULLY PREPARED AND READY.

SO, UH, I THINK CERTAINLY AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION, WE COULD CERTAINLY HAVE SOME INFORMATION FROM BRIAN AT LEAST ON WHERE WE ARE AND GET AN UPDATE ON WHEN HE THINKS WE CAN SEE THAT.

BUT, UH, I'M CERTAINLY ABOUT EFFICIENCY AND MAKING SURE WE GET IT DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BUT WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT, UM, THAT IT'S COMPLETED.

SO I, I WOULD STILL KIND OF GO ALONG WITH WHAT, UH, WHAT, WHAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE ON WHAT THEIR TIMELINE IS.

BUT I WOULD ECHO THAT.

YES, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS SOONER THAN MAYOR AND, AND MAYOR.

I WOULD EVEN GO A STEP FURTHER IF I MAY, UH, AND ASK THAT, UH, MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER, UH, MOVING FORWARD UNTIL WE GET INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION PHASE, IF WE COULD EVEN HAVE AN UPDATE, UH, UH, AT EACH ONE OF HIS CITY MANAGER REPORTS.

UH, WHETHER IT BE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL PROCESSING OR WHAT ARE THE, WHAT THE STATUS IS OF THAT PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, RFP, ENGINEERING, CONSTRUCTION, THE WHOLE NINE YARD.

SO THAT CO COUNCIL IS CONSTANTLY IN COMMUNICATION.

UPDATE ON THAT.

NOPE, I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT.

ANYONE ELSE?

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G, WHICH IS THE 2023 WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROGRAM AND AWARDING THOSE CONTRACTS, RUSS? UH, YES.

UH, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO, UH, TO MONDAY? OKAY.

INDEX IS ITEM THREE

[ 2023 Water Main Replacement Program - Award Contracts]

UH, WE DID GO OUT FOR PROPOSALS FROM ENGINEERING FIRMS TO DESIGN SEVEN SECTIONS OF STREETS, UH, FOR THE 2023 WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.

UH, WATER MAIN MAP IS IN YOUR PACKET ALONG WITH THE BID TABULATION.

UM, THIS LEGISLATION WILL AUTHORIZE THE AWARD AND ENTER A CONTRACT WITH TWO DIFFERENT ENGINEERING FIRMS. UH, THE FIRST IS NORTHLY BROWN AND EITS.

UH, THEY WILL BE DESIGNING SECTIONS ONE, TWO, AND THREE THAT ARE ON YOUR MAP, WHICH IS A PORTION OF HOVER DRIVE, CHESHAM DRIVE, SAND BARRY DRIVE, AND TEWKESBURY DRIVE.

UM, NORTHLY BOUND AND EITS WE'RE THE, WAS THE LOW BIDDER ON ALL ON SIX OF THE SEVEN SECTIONS WE, UH, UH, PUT OUT FOR BID.

AND, UH, BUT THEY DECIDED THEY ONLY WANTED TO DESIGN THREE OF THEM CAUSE IT WAS A LITTLE TOO MUCH FOR THEM.

IT'S A SMALL FIRM.

UH, SO WE TOOK, UH, WELL THE NOT TO EXCEED ON THAT IS, UH, $55,000 FOR THE THREE.

UH, THE SECOND ENGINEER, UH, WAS CHOICE ONE ENGINEERING.

THEY WERE THE SECOND LITTLE BIDDER ON SIX OF THE SEVEN, UH, SECTIONS.

SO WE'D LIKE TO GIVE THE SECTION 4, 5, 6, AND SEVEN, UH, TO THEM.

AND THAT'S A PORTION OF HARTWICK LANE, UH, ALTER ROAD, LONGFORD ROAD AND STORE DRIVE.

AND THEY'RE NOT TO EXCEED WOULD BE $54,000.

UH, BOTH OF THESE FIRMS HAVE WORKED WITH THE CITY BEFORE AND, UH, HAVE ALREADY DESIGNED WATER MAIN REPLACEMENTS IN THE PAST.

UH, THE WATER UTILITY RESERVE FUND WILL BE USED TO FUND THESE DESIGNS.

GOOD.

THANKS FOR US.

ANY QUESTIONS? YES, GLENN.

I'M HAPPY TO SEE, UH, SEVEN STREETS ON THIS NEXT YEAR'S PROGRAM.

UM, HOW MANY DID WE GET COMPLETED THIS YEAR? WE ARE WAITING TO START THIS YEAR'S PROGRAM AND, UH, I THINK IT'S SAY, I THINK IT WAS FIVE.

SO 5, 7, 12.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO ALL SEVEN NEXT YEAR.

IT'S GONNA BE PENN, HOW ESTIMATES COME BACK AND WE'LL DECIDE.

AT THAT POINT I'LL COME TO YOU WHETHER, HOW MUCH YOU ALL SPENT BASICALLY TO DO, HOW MANY WE CAN DO.

APPRECIATE THE PROCESS.

SO THIS IS, THIS IS AWARDING ALL THE DESIGN FOR THE, FOR THE DESIGN, WORK DESIGN.

SO WE CAN KEEP THOSE DESIGNS FOR IF WE ONLY DO FIVE OF THE SEVEN, WE CAN KEEP TWO FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

AND DO THOSE THEN DO, YES.

DO DO YOU ANTICIPATE ANY PROBLEMS BY HAVING TWO DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS WORK? DOES DESIGN FIRMS MM-HMM.

? NO.

CAUSE I CHOICE ONE DID IT LAST YEAR AND THEY DID ALL OF THEM.

AND WE'RE GIVING THOSE PLANS OUT SO THEY ALL KIND OF TRY TO MATCH THE SAME PLANS.

SO SAME TYPE OF DESIGN, SAME DETAILS, EVERYTHING.

SO IT'LL BE PRETTY EASY FOR 'EM TO DO.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.

YES, ED.

UH, RUSS? UM, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR AND WE'VE PASSED A LOT OF LEGISLATION AND FUNDING, HOW MANY WATER MAINS HAVE BEEN REPLACED? LIKE I SAID, THIS YEAR IS JUST, IT'S OUT, IT'S ALREADY AWARDED.

WE'RE WAITING FOR THE PIPE TO COME IN, SO NONE.

SO NONE IN THIS YEAR HAVE ANY BEEN STARTED? NO, WE'RE JUST WAITING TO START AND PROBABLY THE END OF THE YEAR OR JANUARY THEY'LL BE STARTED.

WHICH IS THE EAST SANITARY SEWER EXTENSION AND SOLICITING THOSE BIDS FOR US.

BUT WE'LL BE NEXT YEAR, AT THE END OF THE YEAR, NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE DOING THIS PROGRAM.

SO ACTUALLY MIGHT BE BE ON TWO NEXT YEAR.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

YES, JIM, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND COUNSEL THAT YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, UM, WE TOOK SAVINGS FROM THE GENERAL FUND OF 295,000 AND WE MOVED IT OVER INTO THE WATER UTILITY RESERVE FUND.

SO THAT WAY THIS COULD BE DONE IN ADVANCE OF NEXT YEAR.

UH, WE WANTED TO GET A JUMP ON SINCE THERE WERE SO MANY DELAYS, UH, WITH, UH, THIS YEAR'S PROGRAM AND DELAYS IN GETTING HYPE AND SO FORTH.

WE WANTED TO GET A JUMP ON 2023.

SO I JUST WANTED TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT YOU'D ALREADY CHOSEN TO DO THAT AND THIS PROGRAM WAS AWARDED MONTHS AGO.

WE'RE WAITING ON THE PIPE TO SHOW.

THAT'S WHY IT'S, WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION ONE TIME ABOUT COULD WE JUST ORDER A BUNCH OF PIPE THAT WE KNEW WE WOULD NEED AND FIND SOME PLACE TO STORE IT AND HOLD IT IN RESERVE UNTIL WE KNEW WE WOULD NEED IT.

ARE WE DOING THAT PROGRAM OR WE ORDERING ANYTHING EXTRA OR WHERE ARE WE AT WITH, WITH THAT? I, I KNOW WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER QUITE SURE HOW HE ENDED THAT.

UH, WE DO HAVE SOME STORE ALREADY AT THE WATER PLANT, SO WE DID START IT, WELL THIS TIME IT WAS THE CONTRACTOR WHO HAD DONE IT, BUT IT'S COMING IN NOW.

BUT, UM, AND THE NEXT, THE, UM, OTHER LARGE WATER MAIN PROJECT WE'RE DOING ON BELL FOUNTAIN, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN, UM, AWARDED AND WE'RE WAITING ON THAT PIPE.

AND THE PIPE THAT'S COMING IN COMING UP HERE IS THE EAST PROJECT, EAST SANITARY PROJECT, AND WE CAN ORDER THAT PIPE AHEAD OF TIME.

SO YEAH, WE CAN, WE'RE ORDERING PIPE AHEAD OF TIME.

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ANY OBJECTIONS TO MONDAY? OKAY, THE NEXT IS ITEM THREE H,

[ East Sanitary Sewer Extension - Solicit Bids]

UH, THIS IS, UH, A BID.

UH, THIS WILL ALLOW US TO GO OUT THE BID FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE EAST SANITARY SEWER EXTENSION PROJECT.

UH, THIS IS FOR THE INSTALLATION OF APPROXIMATELY 14,000 LINEAR FEET OF SANITARY SEWER ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CITY ALONG CHAMBERSBURG ROAD AND ALONG STATE ROUTE FOUR AND 2 35 ON, UM, THIS SIDE OF THE WEST SIDE OF ROUTE FOUR.

UM, THERE WILL ALSO BE APPROXIMATELY 4,000 FEET OF FOUR INCH FORCE MAIN, UH, UP ALONG ROUTE FOUR NEAR I 70 AND THEN TWO PUMP STATIONS THAT ARE GONNA BE INSTALLED.

UM, THERE IS A MAP IN YOUR PACKET SHOWING THE, IF YOU LOOK UNDER MAP, IT'S ON THE RIGHT HALF.

IT'S THE SANITARY SEWER PORTION.

UM, SO THIS INSTALLATION WILL PROVIDE A CONNECTION TO THE EXISTING SANITARY SYSTEM IN CENTER POINT 70 COMMERCIAL AREA, AND IT WILL PROVIDE SANITARY SEWER FOR RESIDENTS AND ANY NEW DEVELOPMENTS, UH, ALONG THE EAST END OF CHAMBERSBURG ROAD FOR ANYTHING REALLY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CITY.

EVENTUALLY WE'LL ALL BE SERVICED FROM THIS NEW LINE.

UM, THE, UH, PROJECT IS ESTIMATED AT 4.4 MILLION AND IT WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH OUR SANITARY SEWER FUND.

UH, AND ALSO BRING THIS BACK TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL AWARD AFTERWARDS.

THEN IT'LL PROBABLY BE, UH, FOR EITHER THE MEETING IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY BEFORE WE BRING THIS BACK.

ACTUALLY HAVING THE BIDS COME BACK WHEN, WELL, THE PLANS STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO A MONTH TO FINISH, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO OUT THE BID RIGHT AFTER THAT.

SO IT'LL BE END OF THE YEAR OR BEGINNING OF JANUARY.

WHAT, WHAT'S THE ESTIMATED START TIME ON THAT PROJECT? UH, PIPE ON THIS ONE IS ALL SANITARY PIPE.

WE'LL TRY TO ORDER THAT AHEAD OF TIME, BUT IT'S GONNA BE UP TO THE CONTRACTOR.

HE CAN PROBABLY START IN FEBRUARY.

THEY CAN DO TRENCH WORK AND STUFF IN FEBRUARY.

APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION.

AND, UH, JUST FOR COUNCIL'S, UM, JUST FOR COUNSEL'S KNOWLEDGE, THIS IS, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, THE OLD DOMINION PROJECT, IF YOU REMEMBER US TALKING ABOUT THAT, UH, RATHER EXTENSIVELY, UH, IN THE SUMMER.

SO THIS HAS, UH, WE HAVE AN EPA OBLIGATION TO HAVE THIS DONE IN JUNE OF, UH, OF 2023.

SO WE'LL BE WORKING AGAINST THAT DEADLINE TO GET THAT DONE.

SO THANKS BRIAN.

I REMEMBER THOSE DISCUSSIONS, BUT I WASN'T, I DID NOT REMEMBER A DEADLINE OF JUNE, SO.

ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTIONS? NO, NANCY, I HAVE A, A GENERAL QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE PIPES AND STUFF.

UH, HAVE WE EVER ASKED OUR VENDORS IF, IF THEY COULD, UH, IF WE ORDERED PIPE AHEAD OF TIME, IF THEY COULD STORE IT AT THEIR FACILITIES AND PROVIDE IT KIND OF JUST IN TIME? UH, THEY USUALLY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

THEY, WHAT IF WE ORDER AHEAD OF TIME? UM, THEY WOULD LIKE A IF, WELL, THIS IS WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN IF IT'S LIKE A SIX MONTH PERIOD OF DELIVERY MM-HMM.

, WE CAN ORDER AHEAD OF TIME.

I DON'T GO TOO FAR AHEAD THAT WE'RE GONNA BE STUCK WITH ALL THIS PIPE.

WHAT'LL HAPPEN IS WE'LL GET A CONTRACTOR AT THAT POINT, AND THEN ONCE HE GETS A CONTRACT, WE TRANSFER THE PIPE DELIVERY TO HIM SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO STORE ALL THE PIPE.

THEY'LL HAVE TO DO IT.

SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE KIND OF TIMING IT OUT SO THAT THE CITY WON'T BE, HAVE TO STOCKPILE ALL OF IT.

IS I AM THREE I, WHICH IS THE OOC CONSENT LEGISLATION FOR GUARDRAILS.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.

I DIDN'T HEAR ANY OBJECTIONS.

SO I'LL MOVE THIS ON TO MONDAY.

NEXT STEP

[ ODOT Consent Legislation - Guardrails]

UH, RUSS, THAT'S ALSO YOU.

UH, WHAT THIS IS FOR IT'S CONSENT LEGISLATION, WHICH IS AN EARLY PROCESS FOR ODOT.

UM, AND IT'S TO REMOVE AND INSTALL NEW, UH, TYPE A GUARDRAIL ANCHOR ASSEMBLIES ON THE GUARDRAIL.

THAT'S ON ROUTE FOUR OR 2 35 WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF HUBER HEIGHTS.

UH, THIS ISN'T GUARDRAIL REPLACEMENT, IT'S JUST THE ENDS ON THE GUARDRAIL AND, UH, I THINK THERE'S A NEW TYPE OF TRYING TO REPLACE.

SO, UH, THEY DON'T GIVE A SPECIFIC DATE OF THE WORK, BUT, UH, USUALLY IT'S ABOUT A YEAR OUT FROM WHEN THEY ASK FOR THE LEGISLATION.

UH, AND ODOT WILL PROVIDE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE COST OF THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT, AND THEY DO INSPECT IT ALSO.

SO, UM, REALLY NOTHING FROM US TO BE DONE.

ANY QUESTIONS, OBJECTIONS? OKAY,

[ RTA Bus Shelter Installation - Award Contract]

THE NEXT IS ITEM THREE J, WHICH IS THE RTA BUS SHELTER INSTALLATION.

AND THIS IS AWARDING THE CONTRACTS FOR THAT, RUSS.

RIGHT.

WE DID GO OUT TO BID FOR THIS AND, UH, WE'D LIKE TO GO TO THE CONTRACT WITH BELGRADE INCORPORATED FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE BUS, BUS SHELTERS AT FOUR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

UM, WE DID GO OUT THE BID ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, UH, AND ALSO IN YOUR PACKET, THE BID TABULATION AND THE LOCATION MAP IS IN THERE, UH, THE FOUR SHELTERS WE INSTALLED, UH, TWO OF THEM ON EACH SIDE OF BRA PIKE AT

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THE NEW LIBRARY, AND ONE WILL BE ON BRANT PIKE JUST NORTH OF THE SPEEDWAY AT CHAMBERSBURG.

AND THE LAST ONE IS A REPLACEMENT SHELTER LOCATED ON OLD TROY IN FRONT OF DONATOS.

THAT ONE I THINK GOT HIT A FEW YEARS AGO.

YEP.

UM, THERE WERE ONLY TWO CONTRARY BID ON THE PROJECT AND, UH, BELGRADE WAS JUST LOWER THAN LJ DEWIS WHO HAD DONE THE PREVIOUS ONES.

UH, THEN IT WAS NINE $89,320 WITH A COMPLETION DATE OF 240 DAYS.

AND THAT'S DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT TAKES ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS TO GET THE SHELTERS BUILT AND DELIVERED.

THAT'S WHY IT'S THAT FAR OUT.

UH, WE HAVE A NOT TO EXCEED OF 98,500 AND, UH, THIS IS FUNDED THROUGH RTA AS A REIMBURSEMENT.

THEY'LL, THEY'LL REIMBURSE 80% OF THE COST.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTIONS? YES, RICHARD.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

UH, MORE OF A QUESTION THAN OBJECTION AT THIS POINT.

UM, RUSS, CAN YOU ADVISE THAT THE BUS SHELTERS THAT WILL BE INSTALLED, UH, WILL BE THE SAME TYPE OF BUS SHELTERS THAT WE HAVE NOW? UH, THESE WILL NOT HAVE ANY TYPE OF, UH, INTERNAL LIGHTS OR ANYTHING ELSE OF THAT NATURE, UM, OTHER THAN THE SOLAR POWERED, UH, HUBER HEIGHTS LIGHT ON TOP, RIGHT? EXACT SAME AS THE PASSENGER.

EXACT SAME.

AND, AND THEY, THEY WILL BE TAKING CARE OF THE PAD AND THE TRASH CANS AT EACH ONE OF THESE LOCATIONS AS WELL.

UH, THE PAD IS SET UP TO HOLD A TRASH CAN.

THE TRASH CANS, UH, IN THE PAST WE'VE GOTTEN FROM RTA, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ALWAYS THE CASE.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF MIKE GETS SOME TRASH CANS ELSEWHERE, BUT TYPICALLY THEY WILL GIVE US THE TRASH CAN AND I THINK THEY ARE EMPTIED BY, UM, THE PUBLIC.

UM, I, IF, IF WE COULD GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT BECAUSE, UH, I, I KNOW I'VE HAD SOME WRITERS AND MYSELF, UH, DRIVING THROUGH THE CITY AND SEEN A LOT OF THESE TRASH CANS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY OVERFILLED, UM, YOU KNOW, SPILLING ONTO, UH, THE GROUND INTO THE SHELTER.

UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE NEED TO INCREASE THAT FREQUENCY IF THERE'S BEEN A RIDER COUNT, UM, INCREASE, UM, OR IF, UH, WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT PARTICULAR LOCATIONS.

UM, BUT THE LAST THING I WANT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, US TO BE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES ON TROY PIKE AND BRANT.

AND THE FIRST THING THAT PEOPLE SEE WHEN THEY COME INTO OUR CITY IS TRASH ALL OVER THE BUS STATIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UH, SO IF WE CAN GET THAT CLARIFICATION AND MAYBE GET THAT CIRCUMVENTED THROUGH, UH, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, THEN BACK TO US, THAT'D BE GREAT.

UM, I THINK SAFETY IS A CONCERN.

I THINK KIND OF MIKE HANDLES THAT, BUT I'LL GIVE US MY PERFECT, THANK YOU.

JUST AN EMAIL UPDATE ON, ON THAT PROCESS OR WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS WOULD BE GREAT.

ANYTHING? I THINK WE SEE THAT MOSTLY AFTER A WEEKEND.

YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, WHEN ON THE WEEKENDS WHEN PEOPLE ARE, ARE REALLY BUSY, UM, AND THEN THOSE THINGS FILL UP WAITING FOR REPUBLIC TO COME EMPTY 'EM.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW DOING IT TWICE A WEEK OR IT WOULD REALLY MAKE THAT DIFFERENCE.

IT'S DEPENDS ON WHAT DAYS THEY REALLY FILL UP AND, AND I THINK IT'S USUALLY ON THE WEEKEND.

YEAH, I, AND I'M, I GET THAT, BUT IT DOES, IT, IT, IT DOES LOOK BAD, WHETHER IT'S ON A MONDAY MORNING OR A, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER THE CASE IS THAT, I MEAN, I'VE SEEN THAT TOO.

I THINK JUST, LET'S JUST TRY TO FIGURE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN THAT IS, WHEN IT HAPPENS.

ANYTHING IN THE SCHEDULE UPDATE WE COULD DO TO, TO TRY TO KEEP, KEEP US FROM HAPPENING WOULD, WOULD BE GOOD.

AND, AND AGAIN, ANYTHING WITH AN EMAIL COMMUNICATION, UH, BACK THROUGH MIKE OR BRIAN.

UH, SO WE COULD FIND THAT OUT WOULD BE GOOD.

MAYOR, ONE MORE ITEM IF I MAY.

YES, THANK YOU.

UM, RUSS, IN SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES AND I'VE BEEN ABLE TO VISIT, UH, OVER THE PAST, UH, SIX MONTHS, UH, I'VE NOTICED THAT SOME OF THESE, UH, BUS STATIONS HAVE BEGUN, UH, TO ENTERTAIN A SMART CITY, UH, TYPE APPROACH.

UM, SOME HAVE USB PORTS, SOME HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, FLYERS OF COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES, UH, INSIDE THEM.

UH, SOME OF 'EM ARE, ARE LIT, UH, FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PURPOSES.

UM, YOU KNOW, AT NIGHTTIME WITH, WITH RIDERS AND SOME VERY UNEASY AREAS AND SOME HIGHLY POPULATED AREAS.

UM, COULD WE GET WITH RTA POSSIBLY AND SEE, UM, IF THERE WAS ANY WAY TO MAYBE RETROFIT SOME OF THE CURRENT EXISTING SHELTERS, UM, WHERE WE CAN UTILIZE SOME OF THE SOLAR TECHNOLOGY TO INPUT SOME L E D LIGHTS ON THE INSIDE.

UH, SO SOME OF THE PATRONS RIDING WOULD FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE SECURE AT NIGHT AND OF THE EVENING TIMES.

UM, AND, UH, SEE WHAT OTHER TECHNOLOGY AND AVAILABILITY, UH, THAT THE CITY MAY HAVE, UH, TO PUT, UM, FLYERS AND INFORMATION IN THERE, UH, TO INFORM THEIR RIDERS AS THEY'RE SITTING THERE WAITING ON THE BUS OF SOME OF THE COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES, THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN REGION AS WELL.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

AND I, JUST TO POINT OUT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT BEFORE DAYLIGHT ACTIVITY TIME THERE, AS WE, AS THIS CHANGES OVER, WE, THERE ARE LOTS OF STUDENTS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT, UH, THAT RIDE THE BUS, THAT TAKE THE RTA BUS.

SO IN THE MORNINGS WHEN IT'S REALLY DARK, THERE'S STILL NO LIGHTING OUT THERE FOR YES.

UH, WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN, WHEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY USING THOSE BUS SHELTERS.

SO,

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SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO SEE, ESPECIALLY ONCE WE GET TO THE WINTERTIME.

CUZ IT IS JUST, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT MIGHT AS WELL BE MIDNIGHT RIGHT? AT SICK AND, AND SOMETIMES THESE KIDS HAVE TO CATCH THE BUS REALLY EARLY JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY GOT THE RIGHT TIME SLOT.

SOME OF THESE KIDS SPEND AN HOUR ON RTA BUS AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.

SO, AND MAYOR, I WOULD MENTION THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR, OUR, OUR LOCAL RECREATION CENTERS HERE IN TOWN ORBIT, UM, DOES A LOT OF TIMING OF THEIR EVENTS WITH THE RTA SERVICE.

UM, SO I, I DEFINITELY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CHILDREN AND THOSE THAT ARE CATCHING THE BUS AT THERE, UM, IS SAFE AND IT IS PUBLICLY LIT.

I THINK THAT WOULD ALSO HELP OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PUBLIC, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, FIRST RESPONDERS IF THERE IS AN INCIDENT THAT THEY COULD DEFINITELY SEE THAT UPON APPROACH.

BUT THEY LIGHT UP WHEN THEY GO IN.

YEAH, I, IF IT'S JUST ANYTHING TO MAKE THEM SAFE'S ALL AFTER THE, UH, ANY EXTERIOR LIGHT OR EXTRA LIGHT IF THERE'S A POLE AROUND THERE THAT WE COULD PUT ADDITIONAL LIGHTS ON OR SOMETHING YEAH.

WHETHER IT'S INSIDE, OUTSIDE, YEAH.

TAKING ADVANTAGE OF POLES, WHATEVER.

I MEAN, HOW MANY HAVE ELECTRIC CLOSE BY IF IT'S JUST OFF THE CELL OR THE SOLAR POWER, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY LIGHTS THEY CAN HANDLE HELP.

ONE THING I GET, WELL, SO SPEAKING ABOUT LIGHTING, JUST ONE EXTRA THING HERE ON CHAMBERSBURG.

UH, SO THIS WILL BE KINDA A GENERAL QUESTION.

MAYBE I'LL PUT A WORK SESSION DISCUSSION LATER ON.

CHAMBERSBURG IN FRONT OF THE, UM, THE MAIN EXIT WHERE, SO WE HAVE SECURITY GUARDS THAT ARE LETTING PEOPLE IN AT TWO DIFFERENT EXITS OR ENTRANCES.

SO ONE INTO THE PARKING LOT BY THE MAIN ENTRANCE AND ONE THAT GOES IN BY THE, BY THE SOFTBALL FIELD.

SO WE HAVE THE SECURITY GUARDS OUT THERE IN THE MORNING, AND WHEN IT IS DARK, ONCE THIS CHANGES THERE, THERE IS NO LIGHTING ALONG CHAMBERSBURG IN FRONT OF THE HIGH SCHOOL AT ALL, THEN IT IS DANGEROUS.

SO WE, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD ONE OF THE SECURITY GUARDS GOT GOT NIPPED, UH, LAST YEAR JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST AREN'T ABLE TO SEE, AND THEY DON'T SEE THEM OUT THERE DIRECTING, YOU KNOW, DIRECTING TRAFFIC WITH ALL THE TRAFFIC IS ON CHAMBERSBURG, LETTING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE AT, YOU KNOW, BRINGING THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL.

THERE'S STAFF THAT'S PULLING INTO THE PARKING LOT IN THE MORNING AS WELL.

AND IT'S JUST NOT A VERY WELL LIT AREA BETWEEN BASICALLY COMMUNITY PARK DOWN TO THE, UM, TO THE OTHER ENTRANCE INTO THE MAIN, THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING.

IT'S JUST VERY, VERY DARK THERE AS WE MOVE INTO THE, INTO THE WINTER MONTHS.

SO, UM, MAYBE SOMETHING TO TAKE A LOOK AT OR SEE IF WE CAN, THERE'S POLES DOWN THERE, BUT THERE'S JUST NOT MUCH LIGHT.

SO I THINK, UH, MIAMI VALLEY LIGHTING, I CAN CONTACT THEM TO SEE WHETHER THEY CAN PUT SOME TWO LIGHTS THERE, LIGHT PERFECT.

ANYTHING, ANY, ANYTHING AT THIS POINT WOULD HELP.

I MEAN, A 30 WA BOWL AT THIS POINT WOULD HELP .

MAYOR, CAN WE ALSO CHECK IN FRONT OF WEISSENBORN BETWEEN FISHBURG AND CHAMBERSBURG? BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY HAVE THIS CROSSING THAT SAYS SLOW DOWN TO 25, BUT IF YOU DON'T SEE ENOUGH PEOPLE, IT JUST SEEMS DARK BECAUSE THE TREES ARE BLOCKING ANY LIGHT THAT'S COMING UP BY THE TIME THAT SCHOOL STARTS.

YOU REFERRING TO THE IN FRONT OF WEISSENBORN JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL ENTRANCE, A LIGHT THERE TOO.

IF, MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH APPROPRIATE LIGHTINGS BETWEEN FISHBURG AND CHAMBERSBURG BECAUSE YES, THEY HAVE THE CROSSWALK AND THERE IS A GUARD THERE, BUT IT IS, LIKE YOU SAID, NOT WELL LIT.

UP IS ITEM THREE K, WHICH IS THE WATER VOUCHER PROGRAM.

THANKS FOR INDULGING IN THE LIGHTING DISCUSSION.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, MIX

[ Water Voucher Program]

UH, BRIAN, UH, YES, SIR.

UH, THIS IS IN FOLLOW UP TO THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE BY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SPECIALIST HERE AT WILLIAMS, UH, DURING, UH, THE LAST WORK, EXCUSE ME, AT THE LAST WORK SESSION.

UH, AND, UH, AND FOLLOW UP TO THAT, UH, WE ARE PRESENTING LEGISLATION FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION ON MONDAY, UH, THAT WOULD, UH, DEFINE THIS PROGRAM AS A LEGITIMATE PROGRAM OF THE CITY AND OFFICIAL PROGRAM OF THE CITY.

AND, UH, NOTING THAT, UH, THE EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS FOR THIS IS OF A PUBLIC PURPOSE.

SO, UH, WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL, ENTERTAIN THIS LEGISLATION ON MONDAY SO WE CAN ENACT THE PROGRAM EFFECTIVE, UH, NOVEMBER 1ST.

THANKS, BRIAN.

QUESTIONS, RICHARD? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, I, I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO ASK IF WE CAN HAVE SARAH, UH, EMAIL OUT THE ACTUAL, UM, UH, PIECES OF INFORMATION, UH, THAT HAD COME ACROSS COUNSEL, THE, UH, BLUE, UH, TAGS, THE INFORMATION TAGS THAT THE RESIDENTS WILL BE SEEN.

UM, I THINK THAT'D BE BENEFICIAL FOR COUNSEL TO HAVE, UM, SO THAT IF IT DOES COME UP AND WE ARE QUESTIONED, UH, WE ARE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT IMMEDIATELY.

ACTUALLY, THERE WAS A BLUE TAG, RED TAG IN A GREEN TAG WHEN THEY'RE ALL TOGETHER.

THAT WAS, YEAH.

VOUCHER PROGRAM, UM, THAT, UH, WE ARE LOOKING TO PASS ON MONDAY, UH, WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL HIGHLIGHTED PIECE, UH, IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, UH, THAT I'M THE VICE CHAIR OF AT NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES IN KANSAS CITY IN NOVEMBER, UM, FOR, UM, OTHER COMMUNITIES TO TAKE A LOOK AT, UH, OUR PRACTICES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

SO I FORGET WHICH ONES ARE WHICH, BUT YEAH, IF WE JUST GET A COPY OF ALL THOSE.

SURE.

SO WE HAVE ONE HERE.

GREAT.

AND MAYOR, I, UH, UH, WOULD LIKE TO, UH, UH, MENTION ONE OTHER THING.

I DID, UH, MENTION THIS, UH, TO THE CITY MANAGER IN PASSING, UH, THE WATER

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UM, I THINK THIS IS A, A GOOD STEP FORWARD, UH, IN, UH, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AND, UH, THIS WILL BE HIGHLIGHTED.

UM, HAS ANYBODY LOOKED, I HAD MENTIONED ABOUT THE WEEKENDS, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS ON THE WEEKEND, HOW CAN ELDERLY, DISABLED AND STUFF POSSIBLY GET WATER? SO AT, AT THIS POINT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PLAN IS TO UTILIZE THE COMMUNICATION CHAIN THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE PROGRAM.

AND SO THERE IS A WAY TO FORWARD, UM, THERE'S A WAY TO FORWARD CALLS OUT TO STAFF.

UH, AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE FEATURE THAT WE WOULD LOOK TO USE IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, NOTING THAT, AGAIN, THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM, SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GONNA WORK AND WHAT ISN'T GOING TO WORK.

SO WE WOULD EXPECT TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE PROGRAM AS INFORMATION BECOMES AVAILABLE.

BUT NOW THE CONCEPT WOULD BE TO USE THE FORWARD FEATURE, UH, FOR THOSE WEEKEND SITUATIONS WHERE STAFF MIGHT NOT OTHERWISE BE AVAILABLE DIRECTLY HERE.

RIGHT.

UH, AT THE BILLING.

SO OTHERWISE, THE NUMBER ON THE TICKET WOULD JUST FORWARD ONTO ONE OF YOU GUYS' PHONE NUMBERS THEN? YEAH.

CORRECT.

SO IF THE NUMBER SAYS, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT'S ON THE TICKET, BUT IF IT SAYS, CALL THIS NUMBER WHEN FIVE O'CLOCK ROLLS AROUND THE PHONE SYSTEM WILL AUTOMATICALLY FORWARD THAT NUMBER HERE AT THE OFFICE TO A CELL PHONE OR TO A HOME PHONE, WHATEVER WE TELL IT TO.

L, WHICH IS SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS.

SO THAT'S THE, THE CONCEPT THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE CAN GET SOME REAL TIME DATA AND EXPERIENCE.

OKAY, THANKS.

SURE.

ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY, NEXT IS ITEM THREE

[ Supplemental Appropriations]

JIM? YES.

UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, I HAVE BEFORE YOU, UH, IT WAS IN YOUR PACKET.

UH, FOUR ITEMS, UH, FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL.

UM, ONE OF THE ITEMS, UH, HAVE AN INCREASE, UH, BUT WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A SECOND.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, $10,900 FOR DISPATCH OVERTIME, WHICH IS NEEDED FOR TRAINING ON NEW SOFTWARE THAT I BELIEVE THE POLICE CHIEF SAID SHOULD BE, UH, GOING INTO PLACE, UH, IN NOVEMBER.

UM, SO HE WANTED THAT IN PLACE BEFORE, UH, BEFORE WE GET TO NOVEMBER, UM, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE FACILITY MAINTENANCE PLAN.

AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED, UH, WITH COUNSEL PRIOR.

UM, A HUNDRED AND OH, THAT'S THE ONE A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

UM, IN OUR INITIAL DISCUSSION, I THINK RUSS IS STARTING TO GET SOME, UM, QUOTES ON THAT.

UH, WE MAY NEED 150,000 FOR THAT.

SO I WOULD ASK, EVEN THOUGH I PUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN YOUR PACKET, IT'S, UH, LOOKING LIKE THE, THE PLANS, THE, THE RFPS THAT ARE COMING IN, IT LOOKS LIKE WE NEED, UM, MAYBE AS MUCH AS 150,000.

SO I WOULD ASK FOR THAT INCREASE.

SO THE 10,900, THEN 150,000, AND THEN $160,000 FOR POLICE DEPARTMENT LOCKERS.

AND WE HAVE A, A LOCAL, UM, INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS BEEN, UH, VERY GRACIOUS COME FORWARD AND SAID HE'D LIKE TO GIVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS DONATION WOW.

UH, FOR THE, UH, FOR THAT PROJECT.

SO, UH, THE NET COST TO THAT PROJECT WILL JUST BE $60,000 TO THE CITY.

AND, UM, AND THEN AS RUSS MENTIONED, UH, MOMENTS AGO, NINE $98,500 FOR FOUR NEW BUS SHELTERS.

WE NEED TO BUDGET FOR THE ENTIRE COST OF THE PROJECT.

AND THEN IN 2023, WE, UH, I BUILT INTO THE BUDGET, UM, REVENUE OF $78,800 THAT WE WILL GET FOR THE RTA GRANT.

SO, UH, OUR NET OF THAT WILL BE, UH, JUST ABOUT $20,000 TO GET THOSE FOUR NEW SHELTERS.

AND, UH, I WOULD ASK THAT, UH, YOU WAIVE THE SECOND READING ON MONDAY NIGHT SO WE COULD HAVE, UM, UM, THESE DOLLARS IN PLACE FOR THOSE PROJECTS THAT NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, QUICKLY.

THANKS, JIM.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS ON TO MONDAY WITH THE WA BEING THE SECOND THING? OKAY.

THE NEXT UP IS THREE

[ County Assessments Authorization]

M, WHICH IS THE COUNTY ASSESSMENT AUTHORIZATION.

JIM, THIS IS ALSO YOURS.

YES, IT IS.

UM, ONCE AGAIN, UH, I COME TO YOU ABOUT THREE OR FOUR TIMES A YEAR WITH, UM, ASSESSMENTS THAT, UH, NEED TO GO TO THE COUNTY.

AND, UH, THIS TIME, UH, THEY WERE, UM, FULLY, UM, DETAILED IN YOUR PACKET.

WE'VE GOT ASSESSMENTS FOR TRASH AND LITTER, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE, UH, GRASS AND WEEDS, AND THEN, UH, DELINQUENT, UH, WATER SEWER AND STORM WATER, UH, BILLS.

AND I WOULD JUST ASK THAT, UM, THIS BE APPROVED, UM, BELIEVE THIS IS, UM, YES, THIS IS EMERGENCY LEGISLATION.

SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE SOONER WE GET THIS PASS, THE SOONER IT CAN GET DOWN TO THE COUNTY AND THEY CAN, UM, HAVE IT READY FOR THE 2023, UM, UM, PROPERTY TAX BILLS THAT THEY SEND OUT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR JIM ON THIS ITEM?

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ANY OBJECTIONS MOVING THIS ONTO EMERGENCY LEGISLATION FOR MONDAY? UH, NO.

I HAVE KIND OF WANNA ROLL THIS ONE INTO THE CITY BUDGET.

UM, JIM, WHERE DO WE FIND THE, THE REIMBURSEMENTS OF THOSE ASSESSMENTS IN THE CITY BUDGET? UH, THAT IS, UM, WHY I SENT YOU OUT, UH, ALL THE DETAILED REVENUES.

AND SO THERE ARE, UM, DIFFERENT ASSESSMENTS GO INTO, UM, DIFFERENT FUNDS.

AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO FIND SOME ASSESSMENTS IN THE, UM, 3 0 5 FUND, WHICH IS THE, UM, UH, SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS BOND RETIREMENT FUND.

UH, THERE ARE SOME ASSESSMENTS THAT, UH, THAT ARE SEEN IN THE GENERAL FUND.

THERE ARE ALSO SOME ASSESSMENTS IN THE WATER FUND, THE SEWER FUND, THE STORM WATER FUND FOR THOSE DELINQUENT BILLS.

SO WHEN WE GET THOSE, UH, REVENUES FROM THE COUNTY, WE PUT THOSE INTO THE FUNDS THAT ARE MOST APPROPRIATE WHERE THE EXPENSES TOOK PLACE.

BUT THEY'RE NOT A LINE ITEM WITHIN THOSE FUNDS, THEY'RE JUST PUT IN, THEY THEY ARE A LINE ITEM ON, ON THE REVENUE SIDE, YES.

SO IF I LOOK UNDER, LIKE THE 3 0 5, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT, THAT I COULD RELATE BACK TO A COUNTY ASSESSMENT.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

YES, I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.

LET ME GET TO, UH, TO WHERE YOU'RE AT.

THE, UM, IN THE 3 0 5 FUND, WHICH, UM, I DON'T HAVE A PAGE NUMBER ON THIS, UH, BUT THE VERY FIRST LINE IS SIDEWALK ASSESSMENTS, RIGHT.

THE SECOND LINE IS STREET ASSESSMENTS.

MM-HMM.

, THE THIRD LINE IS WATER AND SEWER ASSESSMENTS.

ITEM THREE N, WHICH IS THE 2023 CITY BUDGET.

SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE DOLLARS, UH, WOULD BE GOING.

AND, UH, I HAVE ESTIMATED, UH, NEXT YEAR THAT, UM, BETWEEN THOSE THREE LINES, ABOUT NINE, ABOUT A MILLION AND $8,000 IN ASSESSMENTS FOR THAT.

, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

SEE NO OBJECTIONS.

WE'LL MOVE ON.

INDEX IS

[ 2023 City Budget]

JIM? YES.

I, UH, WANTED TO, UH, GIVE YOU AN INITIAL, UH, INTRODUCTION TO THE BUDGET, UM, UH, TONIGHT.

UH, I KNOW THIS IS, UH, JUST A LITTLE EARLIER THAN, UH, WE'D NORMALLY PRESENT IT TO YOU, UH, WHICH WOULD BE IN NOVEMBER, AND THAT IS WHY IN YOUR PACKET I DID NOT HAVE THE, UM, THE ORDINANCE TO VOTE ON.

I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE THINGS TONIGHT.

AND, UM, WE'LL BRING THE ORDINANCE, UM, AT THIS TIME OF YEAR, WE, UM, GET THE INITIAL DRAFT DONE, UH, IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

AND THEN, UM, WHAT HAPPENS IS THERE'S TWEAKS ALMOST ON A DAILY BASIS AS WE THINK, OH, WE SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED THIS, SO WE NEEDED TO INCLUDE THAT OR NOPE, WE, UM, MAYBE DOUBLE COUNTED SOMETHING ELSE, REMOVE THAT.

SO, UM, I HAVE TO CHOOSE THE TIME AND SAY, OKAY, IT'S GOING IN THE COUNCIL PACKET.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE GOT TONIGHT.

AND UM, TONY, IS THIS ALREADY ON? YOU JUST HAVE TO HIT THE SLIDE ON THE SIDE TO GREEN AND IT'S ALL SET UP HERE.

OH, OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.

WE'VE GOT THE, UM, UH, AS YOU KNOW, EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE PASSED THE, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN.

IT WAS ONCE AGAIN, NOT A BUDGET, IT WAS JUST A PLAN.

AND, UH, MA MANY OF THE COMPONENTS OF THAT ARE INCORPORATED INTO THE FINAL BUDGET.

IN JUNE, WE PASS THE TAX BUDGET THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE TWO, UM, THE TWO COUNTIES.

UH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY FILED IN MONTGOMERY, MIAMI COUNTY IN JULY.

AND THEN, UM, IN AUGUST, THE, UH, COUNTY BUDGET COMMISSIONS CERTIFY WHAT THEY ESTIMATE THE PROPERTY TAX RATES TO BE.

AND, UM, LAST MONTH COUNSEL ACCEPTED THOSE RATES AND THOSE HAVE BEEN, UM, TURNED BACK INTO THE COUNTY.

THE, UM, JUST LOOKING AT, UH, 2022, WE HAVE, UM, EVERYTHING'S BEEN, UH, REMAINING ON OR UNDER BUDGET.

ANY, ANY, UM, TYPES OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN A ONE TIME I BROUGHT TO COUNCIL TO INCREASE THE BUDGET.

OTHERWISE, ALL OTHER EXPENSES HAVE BEEN, UH, WITHIN BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME, UH, WE'RE IN A STRONG REVENUE POSITION.

UM, ONCE AGAIN, GOING BACK, LOOKING AT THE COVID IMPACTS WE'RE VERY MINIMAL.

AND, UH, IN SOME CASES WE RECEIVED ADDITIONAL MONIES LIKE THE APA MONEY THAT, UH, WE WOULD NOT HAVE RECEIVED IF, UH, COVID HAD NOT, UH, TAKEN PLACE.

SO, UH, ALL ARPA MONIES HAVE BEEN RECEIVED.

WE'VE RECEIVED IT IN TWO TRANCHES, UM, SUMMER OF 21 AND SUMMER OF 22.

AND

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THOSE PROJECTS, UH, THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, UH, WE'LL BE USING THOSE FUNDS IN, UH, 2023, THE, UM, WE HAD AN INCREASE, IF YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, UH, INCREASE IN THE BOND RATING IN 2021.

THAT WAS WHEN WE DID THE, UM, REFINANCING FOR THE AQUATIC CENTER.

AND SO OUR BOND RATING, UH, IS NOW AT A DOUBLE A.

IT WAS A DOUBLE A MINUS.

UH, THERE'S, SO THERE'S ONLY REALLY TWO BOND RATINGS THAT ARE BETTER THAN THAT.

UM, YOU'VE HEARD OF THE TRIPLE A RATING, UH, WHICH VERY FEW CITIES ARE ABLE TO OBTAIN.

I BELIEVE COLUMBUS IS THE ONE IN OHIO THAT HAS THAT.

AND THEN THERE'S A, A A PLUS.

SO WE'RE AT AA, WHICH IS A VERY, VERY STRONG RATING.

UM, AND LIKE I SAID, IT JUST, UH, WAS INCREASED LAST YEAR, UH, AND WE STAY ON TARGET WITH OUR 2025 PLAN.

NOW THE TIMELINE THIS YEAR, WE'VE, UH, IN AUGUST, UH, BUDGETARY GOALS WERE DISCUSSED.

UH, CITY MANAGER DISCUSSED THAT IN STAFF MEETINGS WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.

IN SEPTEMBER, BRIAN AND I MET WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, UH, AFTER THEY, UH, PUT IN THEIR REQUESTS FOR WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE IN THEIR 2023 BUDGET.

UH, WE MET WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND INCORPORATED THAT INTO THE FIRST DRAFT.

AND, UH, SO THE PREVIEW OF THE UPCOMING 2023 BUDGET AND REQUEST, UH, IS, UH, TONIGHT, UM, TONIGHT, UH, IN NOVEMBER WE WILL HAVE, UH, ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AND, UH, IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONS THAT COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO ADD, UH, THOSE CAN GO IN BEFORE THE FIRST READING IN THIS IN NOVEMBER.

AND, UH, WE'LL SCHEDULE SECOND READING IN NOVEMBER AS WELL.

UM, THAT LEAVES US STILL ANOTHER MEETING IN DECEMBER IF WE NEED TO HAVE THREE READINGS.

I KNOW LAST YEAR WE MADE SOME MAJOR CHANGES, UH, IN RELATION TO THE WATER MAIN UH, INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND SO WE ACTUALLY PASSED IT IN DECEMBER LAST YEAR, BUT IN MOST YEARS, IT'S USUALLY, UH, PASSED IN NOVEMBER.

UM, JUST SOME OF THE BASICS.

UM, OPERATING FUNDS, UH, ACCOUNT FOR THE CITY'S, UH, PRIMARY OPERATING FUNCTIONS.

AND WE HAVE THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, WHICH I USUALLY WILL REFER TO AS WATER, SEWER, STORM WATER.

THOSE ARE THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

AND OTHER FUNDS ARE JUST, UH, OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND, UH, DEBT SERVICE FUNDS, AND OTHER RESTRICTED FUNDS.

A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A RESTRICTED PHONE WOULD BE LIKE THE TRANSFORMATIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND, WHICH WE LIKE TO CALL THE TED FUND, UH, FOR SHORT, UH, FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, REASONS.

UM, AND ONCE AGAIN, YOU ALL KNOW OUR PRIMARY CITY PROGRAMS AND SERVICES, OUR POLICE, FIRE STREETS, PARKS AND REC, AND OTHER GENERAL GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS.

UM, ONCE AGAIN, FOR THE OVERVIEW OF THIS YEAR, UH, WE HAVE PROJECTED FUND GROWTH IN THE GENERAL FUND MOTOR VEHICLE FUND, THE GAS TAX FUND, AND THE STREETS FUND.

AND THEN IN THESE OTHER FUNDS, UH, WE HAVE SCHEDULED FUND BALANCE REDUCTIONS AND BY REDUCTIONS, UM, THAT MEANS THE EXPENSES WILL EXCEED THE REVENUES, BUT THOSE ARE FOR PLANNED CAPITAL PURCHASES AND PROJECTS THAT COUNCIL HAS MOVED FORWARD, UH, THROUGH, UH, WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

AND THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE IN POLICE, FIRE PARKS, WATER, SEWER, AND STORM WATER.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WELL, UM, ONE OF THE EXAMPLE OF THE OTHER RESTRICTED FUNDS IS THE TED FUND.

UH, ANOTHER, UH, RESTRICTIVE FUND WOULD BE THE ARPA FUND.

AND AS I SAID EARLIER, THE ARPA FUNDS, UH, ARE ALL RECEIVED INTO THE ARPA FUND NOW.

AND WHEN THOSE WATER PROJECTS TAKE PLACE, THE FUNDS FROM ARPA WILL BE TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE WATER FUND AS THEY OCCUR.

UM, THE LEVEL OF DETAIL ON THE BUDGET, SO WE'VE GOT PERSONNEL COSTS, AND THE NEXT CATEGORY IS OTHER OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.

THIRD IS, UH, CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.

UH, FOURTH IS DEBT SERVICE.

AND THEN THE FIFTH IS, UM, OTHER, WHICH IS, UH, TRANSFERS, ADVANCES, UH, SUBSIDIES, UH, THE GENERAL FUND SUBSIDIZES SOME OTHER FUNDS.

UH, HERE'S OUR EMPLOYEE NUMBERS, UH, WHICH ARE, UH, THIS WOULD BE FOR ALL OF THE, UM, POSITIONS.

THIS WOULD INCLUDE ALL THE POSITIONS THAT COUNSEL HAS, UM, DISCUSSED WITH THE, AS YOU CALL, THE BIG THREE THAT CAME AND HAD, UH, DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

UH, THOSE ARE ALL INCLUDED IN THERE, AND I BELIEVE, UM, OUR HR DIRECTOR, UM, KATIE NISLEY, WILL BE BRINGING LEGISLATION IN NOVEMBER TO INCLUDE ALL OF THOSE ALONG WITH THE SALARY RANGES.

SO, UH, 250 TOTAL, 22 OF THOSE ARE PART-TIME, UH, UNDER PERSONNEL COSTS.

THAT INCLUDES SALARY, HEALTHCARE BENEFITS, EMPLOYMENT TAXES, UM, AND WE, UH, THERE ARE SOME, UH, FUNDS LIKE THE POLICE AND, UH, AND FIREFIGHTERS ARE ALLOCATED TO JUST THEIR OWN FUND, POLICE FUND, FIRE FUND.

UM, MOST OF THE OTHER EMPLOYEES, UM, LIKE IN FINANCE, UM, JUST AS PART OF OUR SALARY, UM, WE SPLIT IT OUT INTO SEVERAL DIFFERENT FUNDS.

UH, THE WORK THAT I ESTIMATE THAT I DO ON THE WATER FUND, SEWER FUND, STORM WATER FUND, A PORTION OF MY SALARY GETS, UH, UH, A PORTION TO EACH ONE OF THOSE FUNDS, AS DOES THE ENGINEERING STAFF, THE TAX STAFF, IT, AND PUBLIC WORKS.

AND, UH, COST ASSUMPTIONS FOR THIS YEAR.

UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY, UM, ALL CURRENT OCCUPIED POSITIONS ARE FULLY FUNDED.

WE'RE NOT ASSUMING, UH, FOR ANY ATTRITION NEXT YEAR.

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THE, UH, PROPOSED BUDGET DOES INCLUDE, UH, ANNUAL SALARY INCREASES, UH, COLA INCREASES, AND, UH, THE CBAS, THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS.

UH, THEY ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE THROUGH 1231 OF 22.

AND, UM, SO NEGOTIATIONS ARE CURRENTLY GOING ON.

UH, WE TYPICALLY HAVE A THREE YEAR CONTRACT RENEWAL, AND SO WE WOULD HOPE THOSE WOULD BE IN PLACE BY, UH, THE END OF THE YEAR, IF NOT VERY EARLY IN 2023.

AND, UH, HEALTHCARE COSTS AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME HAVE BEEN ESTIMATED, UH, TO SEE AN INCREASE OF 30% NEXT YEAR.

UH, HOPEFULLY THAT NUMBER WILL COME DOWN BEFORE WE HAVE FINAL, UM, APPROVAL OF THAT.

AND I BELIEVE THOSE THAT WILL ALSO BE BROUGHT BY THE, UH, HR DIRECTOR IN NOVEMBER.

UH, REVENUES, UH, AS YOU SAW, WE HAVE OVER 100 REVENUE ACCOUNTS.

UM, THE CATEGORIES OF REVENUES ARE TYPICALLY, UH, TAXES, THAT WOULD BE INCOME TAXES, PROPERTY TAXES, UH, INTERGOVERNMENTAL.

THOSE ARE MONIES THAT WE GET FROM THE FEDERAL, STATE COUNTY, UM, ASSESSMENTS, AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

UM, FEES AND CHARGES, THOSE ARE LIKE, UH, EMS FEES, DISPATCH FEES, UM, FINES, UH, INTEREST AND DEBT PROCEEDS.

UM, UH, GENERAL FUND SUMMARY, UM, THE TOTAL, UH, GENERAL FUND, UM, ESTIMATED REVENUES AS I HAVE, UH, PUT THEM IN YOUR PACKET.

UH, 15,655,000, $47.

AND, UH, CURRENTLY AS THE, UM, AS IT STANDS, THE GENERAL FUND EXPENSES ARE ESTIMATED TO BE $13,112,289.

UH, THAT'S, UH, UM, ABOUT A TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR, UM, EXCESS REVENUES OR EXPENSES.

AND AS I SAID, THERE ARE THINGS THAT DIDN'T GET INTO THIS DRAFT THAT I, UM, TALKED TO BRIAN ABOUT.

AND ONE OF THOSE IS, UH, A MILLION OVER A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS WILL NEED TO BE ADVANCED FROM THE GENERAL FUND OVER TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND, AND THAT WILL BE IN THE NEXT DRAFT OF THE BUDGET.

AND, UH, THAT MILLION AND A HALF WILL BE FOR THE INITIAL DESIGN WORK.

UH, I THINK WE DISCUSSED THAT EARLIER WITH, UM, DESIGNING THE, UM, UH, PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, AS WELL AS THE SENIOR CENTER SLASH UM, UH, NEW, UH, NEW CITY HALL AREA THAT, UH, SO THE DESIGN, UH, FOR THOSE TWO IS ESTIMATED BE ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS.

AND, UH, THAT WILL NEED TO BE, UM, UH, PUT INTO THE NEXT DRAFT OF THE BUDGET.

UH, INCOME TAX DISTRIBUTION, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, AT LEAST ANNUALLY OR SEMIANNUALLY, I LIKE, LIKE, TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE'RE AT ON INCOME TAXES.

SO WE'VE GOT THE LAST TWO YEARS, 2020 AND 2021.

YOU'VE SEEN A NICE INCREASE THERE.

UM, I ESTIMATE, UH, BY THE END OF, UH, 22, WE WILL SEE, UH, AN 8% INCREASE THIS YEAR.

UM, UH, MINIMUM 8%.

IT COULD BE HIGHER THAN THAT.

AND THEN I HAVE ESTIMATED, UH, IN DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR INCOME TAX, UH, UM, UH, THE HEAD OF OUR INCOME TAX OFFICE, UM, THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA BUILD IN A 3% ESTIMATED INCREASE IN INCOME TAXES IN 2023.

SO THAT WILL BE A TOTAL OF 24,837,000.

OF COURSE, THAT'S SPLIT AS YOU SEE OVER SIX DIFFERENT FUNDS.

THE, UM, BRIAN ASKED ME EARLIER TODAY ABOUT, UH, WHAT KIND OF, UH, DIFFERENCE WE'RE SEEING ABOUT PERCENTAGE INCREASES THIS YEAR.

AND, UM, SO WE HAVE THREE CATEGORIES OF INCOME TAXES.

ONE IS, UH, INDIVIDUALS WHO PAY IN, AND THEN ANOTHER IS THE, UM, PAYROLL WITHHOLDING THAT WE GET FROM OUR LOCAL EMPLOYERS.

AND THEN THE THIRD CATEGORY IS BUSINESS NET PROFITS.

SO ANY PROFIT THAT THE BUSINESSES MAKE IN TOWN IS, UH, TAXED AS WELL AS THEIR REGULAR PAYROLL WITHHOLDING.

AND SO, UM, WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN, UM, INDIVIDUAL INCOME TAX OF ABOUT 11% THIS YEAR.

AND, UM, THE, UH, BUSINESS, UM, UH, THE PAYROLL WITHHOLDINGS INCREASED ABOUT 9%, AND THE NET PROFITS THAT BUSINESSES ARE REPORTING TO US HAVE INCREASED ABOUT 4%.

SO ALL CATEGORIES ARE UP, UH, BUT IT'S NICE TO SEE THE INDIVIDUAL AND THE, AND THE, UM, THE WITHHOLDING ACCOUNTS GOING UP AT A VERY NICE CLIP.

THAT'S A, A GOOD INDICATION OF A STRONG ECONOMY HERE IN, IN THE CITY.

AND, UH, STRONG REPORTINGS BACK TO OUR TAX OFFICE 2023 BUDGET, UH, SUMMARY.

WE HAVE A, UH, LEGALLY BALANCED BUDGET, AND THAT'S ONE WHERE THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO COVER THE ANTICIPATED EXPENSES.

AND THEN THERE'S A STRUCTURALLY BALANCED BUDGET, AND THAT'S WHERE THE ANNUAL REVENUES, UM, EQUAL OR EXCEED THE ANTICIPATED EXPENSES.

SO IF YOU HAVE TO DIP INTO YOUR, UH, CARRYOVER RESERVES, THAT IS A LEGALLY BALANCED BUDGET IF A STRUCTURALLY MEANS THAT, UH, YOUR REVENUES STRAIGHT ESTIMATE OF REVENUES ARE MORE THAN YOUR ESTIMATED EXPENSES.

AND SO THE 2023 BUDGET AS, UH, IT'S DRAFTED CURRENTLY IS A LEGALLY BALANCED BUDGET.

AND, UH, IN PARTICULAR, THE GENERAL FUND, AS YOU SAW EARLIER, IS STRUCTURALLY BALANCED BECAUSE THE REVENUES DO EXCEED THE EXPENSES.

UH, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THE, UH, REVENUES ARE ESTIMATED TO BE FOR ALL

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FUNDS, UH, 94 MILLION, UH, $342,976.

AS I SAID, THAT WILL CHANGE BEFORE WE GET TO THE FINAL, UH, DRAFT.

UM, ALL EXPENSES, $95,374,743.

UH, AND THAT, THAT IS A, UM, NET, UH, NET DECREASE OF 1 MILLION, A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.

AND, UM, SOME OF THE, ONE OF THE EXAMPLES, UM, UH, AS THAT'S GONNA, UM, PROBABLY GET A LITTLE BIT LARGER BEFORE WE HAVE THE FINAL BUDGET.

ONE OF THE REASONS BEHIND THAT IS, UM, WE'VE GOT, UM, THE ARPA FUNDS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.

SO WE HAVE ARPA THAT IS GOING TO BE TRANSFERRING MONEY INTO THE WATER FUND, BUT THEN THE WATER FUND IS ALSO GOING TO BE EXPENDING ON THESE PROJECTS.

AND, UM, SO YOU HAVE, UH, SAY, $4 MILLION, IT'S GONNA BE SPENT OUTTA THE WATER FUND.

YOU'VE ALSO GOT $4 MILLION AS AN EXPENSE, EVEN THOUGH WE ALREADY HAVE THAT REVENUE, THAT EXPENSE IS GOING TO BE ALMOST DOUBLE.

UM, SO BASED ON THOSE WATER PROJECTS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE $8 MILLION OF EXPENSES, BUT WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED THE $4 MILLION.

SO IN ESSENCE, THAT'S $8 MILLION TO THE NEGATIVE.

SO IT'S, UM, UH, WHEN WE GET THE FINAL NUMBER, IT'S GONNA, IT WON'T BE $8 MILLION, BUT IT'LL BE, UM, THAT'S A, THAT'S A REASON WHY IT LOOKS WORSE THAN IT ACTUALLY IS, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED THE REVENUE.

SO THIS YEAR'S, UM, REVENUES ARE ABOVE THE EXPENDITURES, BUT NEXT YEAR WE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY SPENDING THE MONEY, THEN IT MAKES IT LOOK WORSE, IF THAT, UM, HOPEFULLY THAT MAKES SENSE, UH, TO EVERYONE HERE.

UM, AND THEN THE, UM, DISTRIBUTION BY PERCENTAGE, UH, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, UH, PERSONNEL MAKES UP, UM, 29% OF THE, UH, BUDGET.

16% IS FOR OPERATIONS CAPITAL 14%, UH, DEBT 19%, AND TRANSFERS IN ADVANCES ARE 22%.

AND, UH, JUST, UM, ONCE AGAIN, IN SUMMARY, WE WANNA LEVERAGE OUR STRONG AND STABLE FINANCIAL POSITION FOR LONG-TERM GAINS.

UH, WE WANNA MANAGE THE FUNDS TO CEMENT, UH, NEW BOND RATINGS.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S A CHANCE THAT WE CAN INCREASE OUR BOND RATING.

IT'S OBVIOUS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO OUT TO, UH, TO GET SOME BONDS, UH, WITH SOME OF THE BIG PROJECTS THAT WE'VE GOT COMING UP.

UM, WE MAY, UH, UNTIL THOSE PROJECTS ARE COMPLETE, THE PLAN MIGHT BE TO ROLL, UM, INTO NOTES.

YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING NOTES FOR THE, UH, MARY MEADOWS AREA AND, UH, ALSO NOTES FOR THE, UM, LAYMAN PROPERTY.

SO UNTIL THOSE, UH, LIKE THE LAYMAN PROPERTY, ONCE THAT'S SOLD, UH, WE WON'T BE ROLLING THOSE NOTES ANY LONGER, BUT WE MIGHT ROLL THE NOTES FOR THE DESIGN WORK UNTIL WE GET, UH, THE FINAL CONSTRUCTION WORK ON SOME OF THESE, UH, BIG TICKET ITEMS LIKE THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY.

UM, I WOULD ANTICIPATE US DOING, UM, UM, NOTES UNTIL WE, UM, KNOW THE FINAL DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THE BOND.

SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO GET A GOOD STRONG BOND RATING.

UM, ESPECIALLY NOW, AS YOU ALL KNOW, INTEREST RATES ARE GOING UP AND, UH, LIKELY TO GO UP AGAIN, UH, TWICE MORE BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR.

SO, UM, UH, A PERFECT EXAMPLE, IF WE WERE JUST TALKING TODAY THAT OUR ONE YEAR NOTES THAT, UM, JUST, UH, WE JUST TALKED TO COUNCIL ABOUT LAST, UH, MEETING LAST YEAR.

THEY WERE A HALF A PERCENT.

THIS YEAR, THEY'RE GONNA BE AROUND FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT.

SO, UH, IT'S, UH, THAT, THAT HURTS US WHEN IT, IT COMES INTO THAT.

BUT, UM, ON THE REVENUE SIDE, UH, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE GENERAL FUND IS SHOWING SUCH A STRONG, UH, REVENUES VERSUS EXPENSES IS, UH, THE INTEREST INCOME NEXT YEAR WILL BE ABOUT 40% HIGHER THAN IT WAS THIS YEAR.

UH, BECAUSE, UM, FOR INSTANCE, THE, THE MAIN, UH, STAR OHIO, WHICH IS OUR MAIN INVESTMENT ACCOUNT, UH, FOR, UM, LIQUID MONEY, UM, LAST YEAR, THIS TIME IT WAS 0.08%, AND IT'S NOW, UH, JUST ABOVE 3%.

SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A HUGE INCREASE, AND SO WE'RE EARNING MORE MONEY, BUT THEN WHEN YOU ISSUE DEBT, YOU'RE GONNA BE PAYING MORE MONEY.

SO IT'S, UM, IT GOES BOTH WAYS.

UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO REDUCE OUR CURRENT DEBT AS APPROPRIATE AND, UH, AS WE CAN, UM, UH, DEDICATED FUNDS ARE SET ASIDE FOR THAT.

UM, WE'VE HAD A COMMITMENT TO THE NEW PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, WE'RE GETTING STARTED ON THAT, AND, UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO SUPPORT OUR 2025 PLAN.

AND FINALLY, THE INCOME TAX LEVIES, WHICH WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE, THOSE ARE UP FOR RENEWAL IN 2024 AND 2025.

AND, UH, IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO MOVE FORWARD EARLY ON THAT, WE CAN LOOK AT DOING THAT IN 2023.

I THINK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED BY THIS, UH, BY THIS COUNCIL.

OH, THAT'S LAST SHEET, BIG CHIP.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, ON ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE IN ANY OF THESE 18 PRESENTATION SLIDES? UM, I HAVE ONE, NANCY.

UM, JIM, CAN YOU KIND OF GIVE US A, A TOP LEVEL, UM, EXPLANATION OF, OF, UH, ON THE EXPENSES CHART,

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UH, WHY WE'RE ANTICIPATING A LARGE INCREASE IN, UH, THE STATE HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE IN THE CITY PERMISSIVE TAX? OH, YES.

UM, THOSE, UM, AS I SAID, SOME OF OUR EXPENSES ARE SCHEDULED FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

AND SO THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT RUSS HAS, UH, FOR NEXT YEAR.

AND, UH, WHEN HE COMES TO ME AND SAYS, OKAY, WE HAVE TO DO THIS OUTTA CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND.

THERE'S NO REVENUE SOURCE IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND, BUT, UM, WE COLLECT PERMISSIVE TAX DOLLARS, WE HAVE CITY PERMISSIVE TAX DOLLARS AND COUNTY PERMISSIVE TAX DOLLARS, AND THOSE ARE COLLECTED YEAR AFTER YEAR.

AND USUALLY RUSS WILL COME TO ME AND SAY, OKAY, UM, OR I'LL COME TO HIM AND SAY, UH, WHEN CAN WE DEDICATE, UH, SOME OF THOSE PERMISSIVE TAX DOLLARS OR STATE HIGHWAY FUND DOLLARS FOR, FOR THAT PROJECT? NOW, STATE HIGHWAY FUND IS A LITTLE BIT MORE RESTRICTIVE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO USE, UM, YOU HAVE TO USE THAT ON 2 0 1 OR 2 0 2.

AND SO WHEN WE'VE GOT A PROJECT LIKE THAT, I'M ALWAYS SAYING, HEY, ROSS, LET'S, LET'S USE THOSE, UH, DOLLARS TOWARDS THAT PROJECT.

AND SO, UM, SOMETIMES YOU'RE GONNA SEE IN ONE PARTICULAR YEAR A, UM, REACH INTO THE BALANCE, SO DIP INTO THE CARRYOVER BALANCE OF THAT FUND BECAUSE YOU, YOU ACCUMULATE, ACCUMULATE.

IT'S LIKE YOU, YOU, UH, SAVE UP FOR A, MAYBE A BIG VACATION AND, AND WHEN YOU TAKE THAT VACATION, THEN YOUR, YOUR BANK ACCOUNT'S GONNA DIP.

SO NEXT YEAR WE WOULD ANTICIPATE SOME DIPS IN THE ACCOUNTS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SAVING UP FOR THOSE PROJECTS.

THEN IT WOULD BEHOOVE US TO GO OUT AND TRY TO GET SOME OF THESE INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS THAT WE, TRUST ME, RUSS AND I, UH, HAVE BEEN LOOKING AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WATCHING ALL THE INFORMATION WE GET FROM OHIO MUNICIPAL LEAGUE ON THE, UH, BIL.

AND, UM, UH, RUSS HAS SOME, UM, UH, CONTACTS THAT HE'S, UH, REACHED OUT TO, UH, FOR ADDITIONAL HELP.

UM, I DUNNO IF YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH, I'M WORKING WITH, UH, UH, THREE CONSULTANTS, UH, TO HELP.

FIRST OFF, THERE'S A, UH, SAFE, SAFE ROADS FOR ALL, I THINK IT'S CALLED.

UH, IT TAKES A, A TRAFFIC STUDY OF THE WHOLE CITY PRIOR TO APPLYING FOR ANY OF THOSE.

SO I'M LOOKING INTO GETTING QUOTES FOR THAT FOR RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT'S FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD OF ANY THREE YEARS FROM NOW.

IF YOU WANT TO DO A ROADWAY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT STUDY DONE FIRST, AND YOU CAN KEEP APPLYING FOR THINGS EVERY YEAR IF YOU'D LIKE FOR ROADWAYS.

AND THEN, UH, THERE'S ANOTHER SET OF FUNDING THAT I'M LOOKING FOR, FOR WATER AND SEWER PROJECTS.

UH, SOME OF THE ONES WE'RE DOING NEXT YEAR ARE PROBABLY TOO FAST AND WE CAN'T GET THE FUNDING, BUT I'M LOOKING FOR, UM, LIKE, UH, WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECTS COMING UP IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS, LOOKING TO FUND, TRY TO FUND SOME OF THOSE OUTTA THAT.

AND, UH, ANY OTHER SEWER PROJECTS WE MAY HAVE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, ED? YES.

UH, JIM, IN THE EMPLOYEE NUMBERS, UH, YOU HAVE 61 FULL TIME FIREFIGHTERS.

HOW MANY ARE THOSE FIREFIGHTERS? PARAMEDIC FIREFIGHTERS? HOW MANY ARE, HOW MANY ARE PARAMEDICS? YES, THE, WELL, THE PARAMEDIC FIREFIGHTERS, THE, SO THE LOWER LEVELS, NOT BELOW THE LIEUTENANTS.

UH, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT NUMBER? UH, BRIAN, I'VE GOT, UM, UH, I'D HAVE TO PULL UP THE, TO LET ME, ACCORDING TO MY RECORDS, WE HAVE, UM, 30, UM, 42 THAT ARE PARAMEDIC, UH, FIREFIGHTERS.

AND HOW MANY DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON STAFF? UM, 39.

39.

SO WE JUST HIRED A NEW ONE.

UM, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING, ADDING THREE MORE.

NO, I, WELL, I THINK IT WAS AUGUST 10TH WE WERE HAVING A TEST FOR A FIREFIGHTER.

SO THAT FIREFIGHTER PASSED THE TEST AND WAS THEN HIRED BY HUBER, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, GIVE US 39.

I DON'T KNOW.

THAT WOULD BE A BIG GOOD QUESTION FOR THE HR DIRECTOR.

I DON'T, UM, ALL RIGHT.

AND SO WITH, UH, WHAT WAS ON HERE FOR THE EMPLOYEE NUMBERS, THERE'S NO ATTRITION AND ALL OF THEM ARE FULLY FUNDED, SO THAT INCLUDES THE 42, UH, FIREFIGHTERS AND PARAMEDICS FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.

THANK YOU, JIM.

YES.

UM, AND, AND I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE TALKING ABOUT CITY DEBT PUBLICLY, BUT I'VE GOTTA DO MY JOB.

UM, I NOTICE YOU, UH, ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, UH, YOU HAD PAY DOWN, UH, THE DEBT AS APPROPRIATE.

UH, WHAT'S OUR CURRENT DEBT ROUGHLY? UM, ROUGHLY AROUND 120 MILLION.

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ANYTHING ELSE, RICHARD? THANK YOU.

UM, JIM, REAL QUICK QUESTION.

UM, I, I'VE GOT SEVERAL OTHERS, BUT I'M GONNA HOLD THOSE OFFLINE FOR A CONVERSATION WITH THE, UH, CITY MANAGER, UM, FUND 5 71.

UM, AM I TO ANTICIPATE THAT THAT IS ALREADY, UM, SHOWING THE $463,000 INCREASE IN ANTICIPATION OF THE, UH, SEWER RATE INCREASE? THAT IS CORRECT.

ANYTHING ELSE? ANY, UM, BRIAN FOR JIM? DID YOU GUYS WORK WITH THE COMMISSIONS TO GET IN BUDGETS FOR ALL OF THIS? I THINK WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WORKING WITH THEM AS TO WHAT THEIR, WHAT THEY WERE KIND OF WANTING THEIR BUDGETS TO BE.

DID THAT HAPPEN? I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THAT WAS THE REQUEST.

MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THE REQUEST WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE INFORMED ABOUT WHAT THEIR BUDGETS WERE COMPRISED OF AND HOW MUCH MONEY WAS AVAILABLE TO THEM.

AND WE RESPONDED TO THAT BY, UM, PROVIDING BOTH THE CHAIR AND THE STAFF LIAISON WITH REGULAR COPIES OF THEIR EXPENSE REPORTS SO THAT THEY KNEW HOW MUCH MONEY THEY HAD AVAILABLE TO THEM.

I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY HAD SOME SPECIAL PROJECTS OR SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD BRING TO YOU THAT THEY WANTED TO DO IT.

CAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EMPOWERING THEM, SO IF THEY HAD SOME SPECIAL THING THAT THEY WANTED FOR NEXT YEAR OR SOMETHING, IF THAT WAS BEING WORKED INTO THE BUDGET.

I'M NOT AWARE, IN MY TENURE, I'M NOT AWARE THAT ANY PROJECT OR ANY EVENT THAT A COMMISSION HAS WANTED TO, UH, ENGAGE HAS NOT BEEN SUPPORTED BY COUNSEL.

UM, UH, UM, WHEN THE REQUESTS HAVE COME FORWARD.

BUT I ALSO THINK THAT, UH, BASED ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HEARD, UH, BOTH, UH, BETWEEN MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, UH, MEMBERS OF VARIOUS COMMISSIONS AND COMMISSIONERS AND COUNSELORS, UH, I THINK THE REAL FOCUS PERHAPS FOR 2023 MIGHT NOT BE, UH, MORE PROGRAMS, BUT MIGHT BE EXISTING PROGRAMS, UH, WITH MORE, UH, FOCUS OR DEDICATION, PERHAPS CREATING MORE CORNERSTONE PROJECTS, UH, OR CORNERSTONE EVENTS FOR, UH, THE VARIOUS COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES.

UH, IN OTHER WORDS, UM, IT, IT'S NICE TO HAVE AN EVENT FOR EVERY HOLIDAY OR, OR IT'S NICE TO HAVE MORE OF SOMETHING, BUT IF MORE OF SOMETHING IS NOT WELL ATTENDED OR MORE OF SOMETHING IS NOT REACHING, UM, UH, A NUMBER OF CITIZENS OR THE TARGETED NUMBER OF CITIZENS, PERHAPS, MAYBE IT'S NOT MORE, BUT MAYBE IT'S ACTUALLY LESS.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW AT THE STAFF LEVEL, UH, ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE COMMISSIONS, UH, BASED ON THE RESOURCES THEY HAVE AVAILABLE TO MAKE THE EVENTS THAT THEY'RE DOING, UM, MORE, UH, IMPACTFUL, UM, UH, TO THE RESIDENTS AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO CREATE MORE INCIDENTS TO, TO, OR MORE, UH, NOT INCIDENTS, BUT MORE ACTIVITIES OR, OR MORE EVENTS TO REACH MORE RESIDENTS.

AND THEN LASTLY, UM, I KNOW WE KIND OF THROWN THIS OUT, AND THIS MIGHT BE A KATIE THING.

IS THERE GONNA BE ANY NEW POSITIONS, LIKE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT A GRANT WRITER POSSIBLY.

IS THAT WORKED INTO A BUDGET, OR IS THAT BEING LOOKED AT? SO WE ARE HAVING SOME DISCUSSIONS INTERNALLY WITH STAFF.

WE ARE, UH, MAKING SOME, UH, HIRES.

SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME UPDATES FOR COUNSEL HERE SOON.

SO WE'RE IN A POSITION NOW WHERE, UM, WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS WITH POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN VACANT, BUT WE'RE NOT YET IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN TALK WITH COUNSEL PUBLICLY ABOUT THESE PARTICULAR SITUATIONS, UH, UH, WITH RESPECT TO EMPLOYMENT.

BUT WE ARE LOOKING TO TRY AND ACCOMMODATE, UH, A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD, OR A LOT OF THE REQUESTS THAT WE'VE HAD.

UH, FOR INSTANCE, THE, UH, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER WILL BE TASKED WITH FOLLOWING UP ON A LOT OF THE GRANT SUGGESTIONS THAT WE RECEIVE FROM COUNSELORS AND FROM MEMBERS OF, UH, THE VARIOUS COMMISSIONS.

UH, ALSO TASKING SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GETTING OUT OF THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ABOUT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.

SO WE HAVE NOT INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET A SPECIFIC GRANT WRITER, BUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WITH THE POSITION THAT'S BEEN, UH, CREATED IN THE BUDGET, THE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER, UH, WE WILL BE TASKING THAT INDIVIDUAL WITH, UM, THE PARTICULAR, UM, WITH THAT PARTICULAR SUBJECT MATTER.

UH, AND THAT'S IN COMPLIMENT TO, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, ENGINEERING, UH, ALL OF THOSE FOLKS ARE ACTIVELY WORKING AND ACTIVELY FOLLOWING UP ON LEADS WHEN IT COMES TO GRANTS.

SO, UH, WE'LL HAVE MORE HANDS WORKING ON THE SAME TASK, BUT WE ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY DEDICATING A RESOURCE JUST TO THAT TASK.

UH, THEY WERE ALL BUDGETED AT THE SAME EXPENSE LEVEL THAT THEY WERE AT THIS YEAR, AND, UM, UH, THEY, THEY ALL, ALL THOSE COMMISSIONS HAVE, UM, STAFF LIAISONS AND THE LIAISONS HAVE ALL BEEN DISCUSSED.

YES, JIM? I WOULD JUST ADD ON TO BRIAN'S COMMENTS.

UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE COMMISSIONS THAT,

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UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN WE SENT OUT, UH, WHAT ARE YOUR BUDGET REQUESTS FOR 2023, UH, THEY ARE ALSO AWARE THAT, UH, THEY NEED TO BE BRINGING ANY ADDITIONAL REQUESTS THAT THEY HAVE FOR THEIR COMMISSIONS THAT THEY WORK FOR.

AND SO, UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE CAN ALWAYS, AS I BRING SUPPLEMENTALS TO THE BUDGET, UM, IF THERE'S A SPECIAL PROJECT THAT COMES UP THAT WASN'T KNOWN NOW, BUT MIGHT BE KNOWN NEXT MARCH OR APRIL, I COULD ALWAYS COME TO COUNCIL AND ADD THAT AT THAT TIME.

AND IN REVIEWING THOSE MONTHLY REPORTS, UH, ALL OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS CURRENTLY THAT HAVE BUDGETS, THEY HAVE, UH, UM, VARYING AMOUNTS, BUT THEY ALL HAVE UNEXPENDED FUNDS THAT THEY'VE NOT USED AS OF THE END OF THE THIRD QUARTER.

ANYONE ELSE? DON? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, JIM, CONGRATULATIONS ON THE, UH, BONDING INCREASE, UH, DOUBLE A.

HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE WE'VE BEEN AT A DOUBLE, DOUBLE A RATING? I WOULD SAY, UM, SINCE EARLY IN MY TENURE HERE, UM, WHEN, UM, UH, THE GASB CAME OUT AND, UM, WANTED TO START COUNTING, UH, PENSION AGAINST US, UH, PENSION OBLIGATIONS, EVEN THOUGH WE PAY ALL OF OUR PENSION DUES TO THE PENSION BOARD, UM, NATIONWIDE, THEY DECIDED TO COUNT THAT AGAINST, UH, AND IT SPECIFICALLY HURT US AT THAT TIME AND DROPPED US FROM A A TO A AA MINUS AT THAT TIME.

SO, UH, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN BUILDING THE BALANCES BACK.

YOU KNOW, ONE TIME THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE WAS, UH, DOWN AROUND $3 MILLION, AND, UH, NOW IT'S, UM, OVER $10 MILLION.

SO, UM, VERY PROUD OF THAT.

UH, STAFF'S BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB WITH THEIR BUDGETS, NOT, UH, OVERSPENDING WHERE THEY DON'T NEED TO.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, UM, IT'S, IT'S, UH, NOT EASY TO GET THAT BOND RATING, UH, BACK OR, OR TO INCREASE IT.

SO WHEN YOU DO, YOU SHOULD BE QUITE PROUD OF IT AS A, AS A CITY, YEAH.

SHOULD BE, YOU SHOULD BE QUITE PROUD THAT, UH, WE HAVE THE BOND RATING THAT WE DO.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU TO ALL OF STAFF ON THAT.

UM, JUST BALLPARK, UH, FOR THOSE LISTENING IN, CAN YOU QUANTIFY OR ATTEMPT TO QUANTIFY WHAT THAT MEANS TO THE CITY? UM, WELL, THE, UM, THE BOND RATING REPRESENTS, UM, THE COMFORT LEVEL OR THE CONFIDENCE THAT INVESTORS THAT WANNA INVEST IN BONDS.

WHEN WE, WHEN WE GO OUT AND ISSUE BONDS, SOMEBODY HAS TO BUY THOSE BONDS.

SO THE HIGHER OUR BOND RATING IS, THE LOWER THE INTEREST RATE IS THAT WE CAN, THAT WE HAVE TO PAY.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU WERE A TRIPLE A CITY, UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, THE NOTES THAT WE'RE, UH, DOING, UM, UM, I THINK THE PRICING IS NEXT WEEK THAT WE'RE EXPECTING A FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT, UH, ON A ONE YEAR NOTE, WHICH IS QUITE HIGH COMPARED TO WHAT WE'VE HAD THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

A AAA CITY MIGHT BE, UH, ABLE TO EXPECT A 4% RATE.

SO WE'RE AT FOUR AND A HALF IF WE WERE LOWER, UM, SAY WHERE, WHERE WE USED TO BE AT MIGHT HAVE BEEN MORE LIKE A, A 4.75, MAYBE APPROACHING 5%.

SO, UM, IT DOES, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN YOU MULTIPLY THAT BY, SAY, A NEW PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY THAT IS, UH, 10 TO 13 MILLION, THAT THAT CAN GET QUITE EXPENSIVE, UH, JUST RAISING ANOTHER HALF PERCENT.

SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GOOD BOND RATING, SO THAT WAY WHEN YOU GO OUT TO THE, UM, TO THE INVESTORS, YOU CAN SELL THAT, UM, YOUR BONDS AT A LOWER RATE.

THEY'RE NOT GONNA, THE INVESTORS AREN'T GONNA EXPECT A HIGHER INTEREST RATE TO BE PAID TO THEM BASED ON LOWER QUALITY OF YOUR, UM, YOUR BOND READING.

MAYOR, DO, DO WE HAVE, UM, ANY IDEA WHEN WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT WHAT THE FINAL NUMBERS ARE FOR THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER THIS YEAR? UH, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD BE GETTING THOSE NUMBERS HERE IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS DUE TO THREE WEEKS.

IT WON'T BE TOO MUCH LONGER.

UM, I'VE HAD A CONVERSATION, OR ACTUALLY EARLIER TODAY WITH MATT DUNN WHO LET ME KNOW THAT THEY WERE WORKING TO COMPLETE THOSE NUMBERS, SO I WOULD EXPECT WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY SELLOUTS WE HAD FINALIZED? UH, I DO NOT, MA'AM.

I, I WOULD ANTICIPATE ALL THAT INFORMATION TO COME OVER AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION WITH MATT.

I WOULD GUESS ABOUT EIGHT ANYWAY.

HUH? YOU CAN, I DROPPED A BAT.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

IT WAS A TREMENDOUS YEAR.

THE, THE MONTHLY FINANCIALS HAVE BEEN COMING IN RIGHT ABOUT, UH, WHERE THEY WERE LAST YEAR.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A GOOD PROFIT THE LAST TWO YEARS.

I'M SORRY, THE, IF YOU DON'T COUNT 2020, RIGHT.

UM, 19 AND, UH, AND 21, UH, WE'RE GOOD YEARS, AND, AND WE'RE RIGHT IN THAT BALLPARK AGAIN THIS YEAR, SO WE FINISHED REALLY STRONG THIS YEAR.

SO, YEAH, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE OUR BEST YEAR.

HOPE SO.

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HOPE SO TOO.

HEY, THE, UH, MAYOR ASKED ME TO KIND OF CARRY THIS FORWARD HERE.

HE HAD TO STEP OUT FOR A MOMENT.

UH, ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF JIM, RUSS OR, UH, BRIAN ON, ON THIS TOPIC? ALL RIGHT, LOOKING FORWARD TO FUTURE DISCUSSION ON THAT.

NEXT UP WOULD BE THE STORMWATER FEES.

UM, THIS IS WELL PUT OUT TO BRIAN, AND I'M SURE RUSS, JIM.

PARDON? ITEM THREE, I'M SORRY,

[ Stormwater Fees]

ITEM THREE.

OH, STORMWATER FEES.

THEY TRACK IT WITH THE INDEXING ON THE GOTCHA.

THE VIDEO.

GOTCHA.

SO I'LL PASS IT TO BRIAN.

I'M SURE RUSS AND JIM ARE GOING TO, UH, CHIME IN ON THIS ONE.

UH, YES, SIR.

UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, FOR, UH, COUNSEL TO ONCE AGAIN, UH, DISCUSS THIS PARTICULAR MATTER THERE WITH SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UH, THAT HAD BEEN REQUESTED FROM COUNSEL, UH, WHEN THIS WAS BEFORE YOU AT THE LAST WORK SESSION.

AND THAT INFORMATION, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

UH, AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, UH, STAFF AND I ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT THAT COUNSEL WOULD HAVE.

UH, IT IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, THAT THIS ITEM PROCEED, UH, TO, UH, TO A VOTE ON MONDAY, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPOSAL.

UH, BUT WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT COUNSEL HAS, UH, OR RESPOND TO ANY OTHER DIRECTION THAT COUNSEL MAY PROVIDE.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC? I HAVE ONE, BRIAN.

UM, IF YOU COULD, I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE, THE RATE CHANGE FROM $2 TO THREE 50.

UM, IT, IT FELT TO ME THE PRIMARY GOAL OF THIS WAS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ANOTHER STREET SWEEPER, UH, THAT COST.

AND, UH, OBVIOUSLY PERSONNEL TWO OPERATES A STREET SWEEPER, RIGHT? UM, I, I KNOW OTHER, MAYBE OTHER SMALL THINGS, BUT COULD YOU GIVE ME MAYBE A INCREASE COST THAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD BE THAT COVERAGE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE? AS FAR AS HOW MUCH OF THAT FEE, HOW MUCH OF THAT EXTRA DOLLAR 50 IS PRETTY MUCH COVERING THAT COST? UM, THOSE TWO COST, I SHOULD SAY, PROVIDED THAT WE WERE TO FINANCE THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS, UM, THOSE FEES WOULD COVER, UH, OF AN INDIVIDUAL.

AND, UM, THE EQUIPMENT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY HALF.

I BELIEVE.

IS THAT CORRECT, JIM? BASED ON THE, THE NUMBERS? WELL, I KNOW, UH, RUSS, UH, LAID OUT SOME, UH, VERY GOOD EXPENSE NUMBERS.

UH, AND, UM, IT'S IN YOUR PACKET, I DUNNO IF YOU LOOK YEAH.

IN YOUR PACKET.

SO IT'S NOT JUST, I, I, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A FOCUS ON THE STREET SWEEPER AND THERE, AND THERE'S ONE OTHER, UM, I THINK A LEAF REMOVAL BACK THAT'S, UM, ESTIMATED BE IN 2026.

BUT THERE ARE, UM, MANY OTHER EXPENSES THAT ARE ANNUAL EXPENSES.

UM, ONE FOR INSTANCE IS THERE'S ALWAYS A STORM SEWER PORTION OF THE, UM, STREET PROJECT, UH, UH, STREET PROGRAM EACH YEAR.

AND SO OF THAT, UM, SAY MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS THAT, UM, WE HAVE A LEVY THAT PRODUCES INCOME TAX FOR THE STREET PROGRAM.

UM, SOME OF THAT HAS BEEN GOING TOWARDS STORM SEWERS.

SO THE MORE THAT GOES TOWARDS STORM SEWER, BECAUSE THE STORM SEWER FUND HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO PAY FOR IT, UM, THAT MEANS LESS STREETS ARE ABLE TO BE DONE EACH YEAR.

UM, SO IF WE INCREASE THE STORM WATER RATE, WE CAN HAVE THE ACTUAL STORM SEWER PORTION OF THE STREET PROJECT, UH, BE DONE OUT OF THAT FUND, WHICH IS WHERE IT SHOULD COME, WHEN IT CAN AFFORD IT.

SO ONCE IT CAN AFFORD IT, THEN MORE OF THAT MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS THAT'S IN THE STREET PROGRAM CAN BE USED TRULY FOR MORE STREETS.

SO MORE, THIS WILL ALLOW MORE STREETS TO GET DONE IN THE CITY EACH YEAR.

THAT'S ONE PIECE.

UM, ANOTHER IS, UM, UH, CATCH BASIN, UH, REPAIR, UM, ESTIMATED TO BE AT ABOUT A HUNDRED AND, UH, 25,000 A YEAR, UM, CURB REPLACEMENT, UM, WHICH ALSO CURRENTLY IS, UH, PART OF THE STREET PROGRAM.

THAT COULD ALSO, IF IT'S, IF IT'S CURB REPLACEMENT, IT REALLY SHOULD BE COMING OUT OF THE STORMWATER FUND.

BUT ONCE AGAIN, RUSS SAYS, HEY, JIM, I NEED SOME MONEY.

SORRY, THE BALANCE ISN'T THERE.

WE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE IT OUT THE STREET, UH, TAX MONEY, UH, TO PAY FOR THAT.

SO I'VE BEEN KIND OF HINDERING HIM OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, IT'S BUILT UP OVER TIME AND IT'S TIME TO COME TO COUNCIL AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT BY HAVING THIS DOLLAR 50 INCREASE IN STORM WATER, UM, PER MONTH, UH, WILL HELP US GET SOME OF THESE PROJECTS DONE TRULY IN THE STORM WATER FUND, INSTEAD OF PULLING MONEY AND RESOURCES FROM OTHER TAX DOLLARS THAT ARE TRULY FOR THE STREET PROGRAM, AND WE CAN GET MORE STREETS DONE.

WHICH I THINK IS THE GOAL OF, UM, COUNCIL HAS MENTIONED THAT BEFORE, THAT THEY'D LIKE TO GET MORE STREETS DONE, UH, EACH YEAR, AND THIS WILL ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.

UM, JIM, THE STORMWATER BUDGET, THE REVENUE, UM,

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THIS IS FOR 2022.

THIS FOR THIS YEAR, $657,500, CORRECT.

IN OUR PACKET.

AND THEN THE EXPENSES WAS $653,702.

YES.

COUNCIL ASSEMBLED A PLAN TO INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY AND CREATE INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THE REVENUE THAT WE HAD ACTUALLY EXCEEDED, UH, BY A LITTLE OVER $4,000.

SO WE HAD ENOUGH MONEY TO COVER IT THIS YEAR.

THAT'S CORRECT.

ONCE AGAIN, AT THE REDUCED LEVELS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD TO TAKE STORM WATER ITEMS OUT OF THE STREET PROGRAM WHERE WE, WE, WE HAD TO LIMIT THE EXPENSES TO WHAT THE REVENUE IS.

SO THAT'S WHY, EVEN THOUGH THE REVENUE, OBVIOUSLY YOU, YOU CAN'T SPEND MORE THAN YOUR REVENUE.

WELL, TO BE FISCALLY, YOU KNOW, TO BE FISCALLY CON YOU KNOW, CONSERVATIVE AND, AND RESPONSIBLE, WELL RESPONSIBLE, YEAH.

MM-HMM.

, YES.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, IF WE STARTED DOING THAT AND DIGGING INTO OUR CARRYOVER BALANCE, WE'D BE, UM, TAKING OUT THAT BALANCE IN PROBABLY TWO YEARS.

UM, SO OBVIOUSLY I TRY AND CAUTION ROSS NOT TO, YOU KNOW, SPEND TOO MUCH, UH, IN THIS AREA, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THE EXPENSES, YOU KNOW, I SAY THIS IS HOW MUCH THE FUND CAN AFFORD.

AND SO BASICALLY HE'S BUDGETING AND SPENDING UP TO THAT LEVEL DOING WHAT WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE.

ANYTHING ELSE, DON? THANK YOU, MA'AM.

SO JIM, ON THE EXPENSES AND INCOME SHEET, THE PROJECTED, UH, NEW YEARLY EXPENSES, 5 69 8, AND THE, UH, STORM WATER FEE INCREASED GENERATING 4 61, UH, WHAT KIND OF POSITION DOES THAT PUT YOU IN OVERALL AS FAR AS, UM, BALANCE ON THE BUDGET IN THAT ACCOUNT? WELL, OBVIOUSLY, UM, I'D EVEN THOUGH IF COUNCIL WERE TO PASS THIS INCREASE, UH, AND IT WOULD BRING IN 461,000, UM, AND THAT MAY GROW OVER TIME AS WE, UM, PUT MORE HOUSES INTO THE CITY.

UM, AND SO, UM, I'M OBVIOUSLY, UH, UM, THAT WILL, THAT WILL BE A HELP.

BUT, UH, RIGHT NOW RUSS HAS IDENTIFIED EXPENSES, UH, EXCEEDING THOSE REVENUES BY $100,000.

SO HE'S GO, HE AND I ARE GONNA HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER AS TO WHAT AREAS OF THESE ANNUAL EXPENSES, UH, SHOULD BE CUT.

UH, BECAUSE, UH, IF WE STARTED SPENDING A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE THAN WE BROUGHT IN, LIKE I SAID, THE, UH, THE CARRY OF A BALANCE WOULD BE USED UP IN, IN ABOUT, UM, PROBABLY THREE YEARS.

SO, UM, SO HE'LL HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL UNTIL WE GET MORE HOUSES IN TOWN.

AND THOSE, UH, MAYBE THAT INCREASE OF 4 61 BECOMES, UH, CLOSER TO FOUR 80 OR FOUR 90, AND THEN HE CAN DO A FEW MORE THINGS AS THAT REVENUE STARTS INCREASING.

SO I, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT JUST FOR, FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION, IT'S NOT THIS RATE INCREASE.

WELL, IT IS ABOUT WHAT WE WILL DO WITH IT.

IT'S ALSO WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO WITH IT.

UH, AND AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, UH, THE CITY DOES HAVE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT IT NEEDS TO MEET UNDER ITS NATIONAL, UH, STORM WATER POLLUTION ELIMINATION PERMIT.

AND AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW AS A COMMUNITY, THOSE OBLIGATIONS OBVIOUSLY GROW WITH US.

SO IF ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IS PART OF OUR PERMIT IS TO, UH, SWEEP THE STREETS, WE HAVE MORE STREETS TO SWEEP, UH, EVERY YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING MORE STREETS TO THE ROLL.

WELL, IF WE ONLY HAVE ONE SWEEPER AND ONE PERSON TO OPERATE THAT SWEEPER, IT TAKES US MULTIPLE, IT TAKES US LONGER TO GET THAT WORK DONE.

AND UNDER OUR PERMIT, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SWEEPING EVERY STREET, I BELIEVE IT IS TWICE A YEAR.

AND SO IT'S NOT JUST WE NEED A NEW REVENUE SOURCE BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE A NEW REVENUE SOURCE, OR BECAUSE WE'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, RELUCTANT TO PURSUE OTHER AVENUES, YOU KNOW, LIKE A TAX INCREASE OR, OR SOME SOMETHING ELSE THAT MIGHT BE MORE CONVENTIONAL.

IT'S THAT WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO DO THIS WORK, AND THIS MONEY IS SPECIFICALLY EARMARKED TO ACCOMPLISH THAT WORK.

AND SO TO US AS STAFF, IT ONLY MAKES SENSE THAT WE WOULD ASK YOU TO PROVIDE US REVENUE TO DO THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

AND SO, AGAIN, THIS ISN'T JUST BECAUSE WE NEED MORE MONEY TO BUY NICER THINGS.

WE NEED MORE MONEY TO BUY CERTAIN THINGS TO DO THE WORK WE'RE OBLIGATED TO DO UNDER THIS PARTICULAR PERMIT.

AND SHOULD WE FAIL TO DO THIS WORK OVER TIME, THEN EITHER ONE OF TWO THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN.

THE EPA WILL BEGIN FINDING THE CITY FOR FAILURE TO MEET ITS OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE PERMIT, OR WE'LL HAVE TO PULL RESOURCES THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE GO TO ROAD WORK OR REPLACING PLOWS AND REROUTE THAT TO ACCOMMODATE THESE OTHER OBLIGATIONS UNDERNEATH THIS PERMIT.

SO I'D JUST LIKE COUNSEL TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THESE REVENUES.

WE'VE SAT AND HAD A CONVERSATION AT LENGTH, MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS AT LENGTH IN THIS, THIS CHAMBER THAT WE HAVE NICE THINGS.

WE HAVE SPENT TIME, EFFORT, AND ENERGY

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NOW WE NEED TO BEGIN TAKING CARE OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND PIVOTING FROM BUILDING, USING OUR RESOURCES TO BUILD, TO MAINTAINING.

AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO IN, IN ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER THIS FEE.

SO I JUST WOULD LIKE FOR COUNCIL TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

AND MAYOR, THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY, JIM.

I FORGOT TO ASK, UM, HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE IN THE WATER FUNDS? OH, THE, UH, CURRENT, UH, FUND BALANCE? YES, PLEASE.

I CAN GET YOU AN EXACT NUMBER ON THAT.

UM, AS OF TODAY, UM, $591,000.

AND WHICH FUND IS THAT? THAT'S A STORM WATER FUND.

STORM WATER.

HOW MANY WATER FUNDS DO WE HAVE? HOW MANY WATER FUND ACCOUNTS DO WE HAVE? UM, WE HAVE, UM, TWO, UH, FIVE WATER FUNDS, TWO SANITARY SEWER FUNDS, AND ONE STORM WATER FUND.

NOW THE FIVE WATER FUNDS, HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE TOTAL? APPROXIMATELY $3 MILLION.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, OR THANK YOU, JIM.

UM, BRIAN, THERE'S QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

WHEN WE STARTED FIRST TALKING ABOUT THE, THE STORM, UH, FEE AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS ENTITLED INTO THAT, I KNOW THIS COUNCIL WAS PRESENTED WITH AN OPTION, UH, TO HAVE AN INCREASE IN, UM, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BEEN LATER THIS YEAR, UH, ABOUT THIS TIME, UH, AND, AND AN ADDITIONAL INCREASE ON TOP OF THAT.

UM, SO I GUESS, LET ME REWIND AND STATE THAT DIFFERENTLY.

THE FIRST PROPOSAL COUNCIL HAD SEEN INCLUDED AN OPTION, UH, TO HAVE TWO INCREASES AND A FINAL, UH, CPI INCREASE.

UM, ADDITIONALLY IN THERE WAS SOME, UM, SOME FIGURES AND SOME AMOUNTS THAT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED AND DEBATED WITHIN, UH, WITHIN THIS, UM, UH, DIAS SINCE THAT TIME, YOU HAVE TAKEN SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS, UH, AND SOME OF THE DEBATES THAT'S BEEN HAD, UH, AND TURNED THIS LEGISLATION INTO SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE FIRST, UH, PIECE WHERE WE NO SEE A CPI AND WE ARE ONLY DISCUSSING ONE INCREASE, NOT MULTIPLE INCREASES OVER THE TIME.

ADDITIONALLY, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN FURTHER, UM, DOLLARS AND CENTS THAT HAVE BEEN OUTLINED IN THE REPORTS, NOT ONLY TO SAY THAT THIS IS GOING TO GO TO A POTENTIAL STREET SWEEPER OR A POTENTIAL STAFF POSITION, BUT I'M ALSO EXPLAINING WHAT OTHER FUNDS AND, AND MONIES, UM, COULD BE, UM, BORROWED OR LEVIED AGAINST THIS TO MOVE AROUND SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SOME OF OUR OBLIGATIONS TO, UH, THE, UH, THE EPA ADDITIONALLY TO OUR RESIDENTS AND TO THE, UM, THE INCREASE.

DID I STATE ALL OF THAT SOMEWHAT CORRECTLY IN A BROAD SENSE? YES, SIR.

THAT IS CORRECT.

PERFECT.

UM, AND I KNOW INITIALLY WHEN THIS, UH, LEGISLATION FIRST CAME OUT, I SPOKE AGAINST IT.

UM, I, I, I BELIEVE, AND I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK FOR HIM, UM, BUT I BELIEVE MY RECOLLECTION'S CORRECT.

UM, MY COLLEAGUE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, DON WEBB ALSO SPOKE OUT AGAINST THAT.

UM, I, I WILL STATE THAT, UH, UM, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WEBB SINCE THAT TIME PERIOD.

I'VE ALSO SPOKEN WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND, UM, WITH ALL OF THAT, AND, AND SINCE, UH, MAYOR I, I PLAN ON SUPPORTING THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION ON MONDAY AS I BELIEVE IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR THE RESIDENTS, THE STAFF, UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE HAS BEEN A COMPROMISE OF INFORMATION SUPPLIED BY THIS COUNCIL IN OUR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

ON MY END, WITHOUT REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT A LOT OF THIS LEGISLATION MEANS.

THANKS, RICHARD.

ANYONE ELSE? I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, UM, I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION AMONGST ALL OF YOU.

I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF TIMES THAT WE, WE GO THROUGH THESE ITEMS ON, ON AN AGENDA AND, UH, SOMETIMES THEY'RE BIGGER THAN WHAT THEY SEEM, AND THEN WE DON'T GET THE DISCUSSION REGARDING THESE ITEMS THAT WE NEED, AND THEN WE END UP IN A COUNCIL MEETING, AND THEN WE DON'T EITHER HAVE ANY DISCUSSION THERE EITHER.

UM, AND THEN WE TAKE VOTES WITHOUT WHAT APPEARS, AT LEAST ON,

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SO I WOULD HOPE, AND I THINK MY COMMENTS LAST WEEK REGARDING COUNCIL MEETING VERSUS WORK SESSIONS, MEANING THAT I HOPE THAT THIS COUNCIL TAKES THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, DURING THE WORK SESSIONS TO ACTUALLY ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS AND REALLY UNDERSTAND THE LEGISLATION THAT STAFF IS PRESENTING TO MAKE SURE WE REALLY DO HAVE A, HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE NEED BEFORE WE MOVE THIS ONTO COUNCIL SO WE CAN JUST START TAKING VOTES.

SO I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, GLEN, THANKS FOR STARTING THIS, UH, CONVERSATION.

MY, MY STEP INTO THE RESTROOM, UH, BUT LEAST FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD DURING THIS CONVERSATION TONIGHT AND WHAT I'VE HEARD OVER THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS, UM, THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF DISCUSSION THAT'S HAD.

I, I DO HOPE THAT EVERYONE HAS AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT, WHY IT IS NEEDED, WHAT THE COMPROMISES MADE.

AND, AND I HOPE THAT IF THERE ISN'T ANY, IF THERE'S ANYONE UP HERE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND OR DOESN'T HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THIS IS, I THINK THIS IS A, A TIME WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT LEGISLATION TO TRY TO FIND THE CONSENSUS ON HOW TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO, RATHER THAN FINDING REASONS NOT TO DO IT.

SO IF THERE, AGAIN, ARE, ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, UH, FROM AN UNDERSTANDING PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT WE DON'T KNOW, WHY THIS IS BEING ASKED OR WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS ARE, I WOULD ASK ONE LAST TIME, PLEASE, ANYONE RAISE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS OR OBJECTIONS THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE WE MOVE THIS ON TO A COUNCIL MEETING? UH, SO HOPEFULLY WE DON'T FIND OURSELVES IN THIS POSITION AGAIN.

I WOULD ALMOST BE, UH, AT A, AT A POINT OF SAYING, JIM, HOW HOW LONG HAVE WE ACTUALLY, WE HAVE A LEAF COLLECTION PROGRAM, RIGHT? SO WE, WE HAVE A LEAF COLLECTION.

WHERE, HOW LONG HAS THAT BEEN? LIKE HOW LONG AGO, OR MAYBE RUSS, HOW LONG AGO THAT LEGISLATION PASSED WHERE WE ACTUALLY DECIDED WE WERE GONNA MAKE AN EFFORT TO, TO SPEND MONEY TO GO PICK UP LEAVES? BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS TO LEAVES? WE DON'T PICK 'EM UP.

I, I LIVED HERE IN THE NINETIES, WE WERE PICKING UP LEAVES THEN.

SO IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME AGO.

MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY COUNCILS AGO DECIDED IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE WE PICKED UP LEAVES.

I DON'T THINK WE WERE JUST DOING THAT.

CAUSE WE WANTED, I MEAN, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T HAVE LEAVES LAYING AROUND.

BUT THE REASON WE DIDN'T HAVE LEAVES LAYING AROUND IS CUZ THEY END UP IN THE STORM, IN THE, IN THE STORM DRAIN, WHICH THEN CAUSES PROBLEMS AND DAMAGE AND DECAY AND THE FREEZE FALL CYCLE.

IT, IT'S DAMAGING.

BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT LEGISLATION TRYING TO FIND OUT REASONS WHY WE SHOULDN'T KEEP UP WITH, UH, INFLATION, OR WHY WE DON'T NEED THIS, OR FINDING REASONS WHY THIS SHOULDN'T HAPPEN, THEN I WOULD QUITE FRANKLY EXPECT SOMEONE TO JUST RAISE THEIR HAND AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WELL, LET'S JUST DO AWAY WITH THE WHOLE TAX ALTOGETHER THEN, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO INCREASE, TO KEEP UP, TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE, WHY ARE WE TAXING THE RESIDENTS IN THE FIRST PLACE? SO, UH, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT LACK OF UNDERSTANDING, PLEASE SPEAK ANITA.

I UNDERSTAND, AND I GET IT.

AND BRIAN, I HAD THE CONVERSATION AND STUFF.

I JUST HAVE HAD A LOT OF RESIDENTS REACH OUT TO ME AND IT'S JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STRUGGLING TO MAKE IT, INFLATION'S JUST KILLING US, EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND NOW THE CITY'S WANTING TO ADD A LITTLE BIT HERE AND THERE AND THEY'RE JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WHEN THESE LEVIES COME UP? IS THERE GONNA BE INCREASES? THEY'RE JUST FEELING A LOT OF BURDEN RIGHT NOW.

AND I GET IT, AND I'VE TALKED TO BRIAN ABOUT IT, I UNDERSTAND WHY WE NEED THIS.

IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I TOLD BRIAN, I SAID, MAYBE IF WE STARTED A LITTLE SMALLER THAN A DOLLAR 50, AND I KNOW THAT SOUNDS PETTY BECAUSE EACH OF US SITTING HERE ON THE DIAS A DOLLAR 50 A MONTH, PROBABLY NOTHING.

BUT I HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT IT IS SOMETHING, AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE INCREASES THEY'VE HAD.

SO THAT WAS THE REASON I VOTED NO, IS THAT I JUST HAD A LOT OF RESIDENTS REACH OUT THAT ARE STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW.

SOME OF THE COMPROMISE THAT'S TAKEN PLACE ON THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION, I FEEL, UM, AND I, AND I BELIEVE OTHERS FEEL THIS WAY AS WELL, THAT WITH ONLY HAVING ONE INCREASE INSTEAD OF MULTIPLE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, IT PUTS MORE OF THAT RESPONSIBILITY, UH, IN FINANCIAL OVERSIGHT BACK ON COUNCIL TO HAVE THIS SAME CONVERSATION WITH THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, WITH THE CITY MANAGER, UM, ALMOST THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, UH, TO DETERMINE DID COUNCIL DO THE RIGHT THING? ARE WE SEEING THE INCREASE THAT WE NEED, THE SUSTAINABILITY? UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN TALKS OF, YOU KNOW, A RECESSION AND, AND, YOU KNOW, STARTING UP NEXT YEAR, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CITY? UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN A, YOU KNOW, A HOUSING BUBBLE PREVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

OKAY, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I REMEMBERS OF YOUTH IN THE COMMUNITY RAKING LEAVES TO THE CURB SO THAT IT WOULD BE PICKED UP.

AND THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY ABOUT THAT.

UM, I PLAN ON SUPPORTING THIS.

I WANNA ASK YOU HOW LONG AGO THAT WAS .

IT WAS MORE THAN A DECADE.

WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT .

DOES THAT, ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? RICHARD MIAM? MY ONLY THING ELSE I, I WOULD ADD, AND I, I FAILED TO MENTION THIS PREVIOUSLY IN MY SUMMARY REPORT, UM, AND, AND, AND MS. KITCHEN, I, I WOULD DEFINITELY SUGGEST THAT WHEN THESE RESIDENTS REACH OUT TO YOU, THAT YOU DEFINITELY ADVISED THEM, UM, THAT IN THE FIRST PART OF THIS LEGISLATION WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS, THERE WAS A CPI THAT WOULD'VE CONTINUED TO HAVE THAT INCREASE THAT PROBABLY WOULD'VE BEEN MORE DETRIMENTAL IN MY OPINION, THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY.

ADDITIONALLY, WITH

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BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS WE SEE THE, YOU KNOW, THE, COMING TO THE END OF THE 2025 PLAN, WE SEE, YOU KNOW, THE RENEWAL DISCUSSIONS OF SOME OF THESE LEVIES AND THEIR IMPACT.

I THINK THIS IS ONE MORE SITUATION WHERE THIS COUNCIL HAS TAKEN A FINANCIAL, UM, AUTHORITY TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP OUR EYE ON THIS AND, AND OUR FOOT ON THIS PEDAL WHERE WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO SOME AUTOMATIC SYSTEM AND JUST NEVER LOOK AT IT AGAIN.

NO, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THIS, UM, PROBABLY IN LESS THAN 11 MONTHS FROM NOW, UH, AND DISCUSSING THIS VERY THING, UM, TO DETERMINE THAT, YOU KNOW, COMING INTO JANUARY OF 2024, DOES THAT SAME INCREASE, YOU KNOW, SET THEN AGAIN, AND, AND I COULD PROBABLY BE SPEAKING TOTALLY OUTTA TURN, WE COULD HAVE THAT SAME CONVERSATION AND SAY, JIM, WAS THAT, WAS THAT DOLLAR 50 INCREASE? WAS IT TOO MUCH? DO WE NEED TO TAKE IT BACK? UM, SO I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING THOSE ARE ALL OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE NOW, YOU KNOW, AVAILED OURSELVES TO HAVE WHERE THE FIRST PIECE OF LEGISLATION DID NONE OF THAT.

UM, SO I, I THINK THAT'S, THAT, THAT, THAT'S HUGE TO LOOK AT, UH, FROM SOME OF THE COMPROMISING CONVERSATIONS, UH, WITH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF, UH, THAT WE'VE HAD.

AND, UM, AND, AND LIKE I SAID, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE ONE OF MANY REASONS.

I, I, I WILL BE APPROVING THIS, BUT I'M JUST ONE COUNCIL MEMBER AND, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE HAVING HARD TIMES, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, MY HEART DOES GO OUT TO THEM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS DO HAVE SAFE AND CLEAN AND OPERABLE STREETS, UM, AND, AND WATER AND SEWER.

UM, SO THAT IS ONE OF OUR MAIN RESPONSIBILITIES AS COUNCIL MEMBERS UP HERE.

UM, SO I KNOW WITH ALL OF THAT CONVERSATION, I, I, I HOPE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS DOES PASS ON MONDAY AND WE CAN GET THIS, UH, MOVING FORWARD STARTED IN JANUARY.

THANKS, RICHARD.

AND, AND AGAIN, TO ALL OF YOU, I REALLY DO TRULY APPRECIATE ALL THE DISCUSSION THAT HA'S HAPPENED AROUND THIS TO GET THIS LEGISLATION, UH, TO A POINT WHERE, UM, AT LEAST I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO, UH, TO, TO VOTE ONCE AGAIN.

AND, AND THAT THIS WOULD, SO THIS WOULD BE A CHANGE LEGISLATION.

SHOULD THIS BE REQUIRED FOR A SECOND READING OR WOULD THIS, UH, IT'LL BE AT THE SECOND READING ON MONDAY.

SO SECONDLY, IT WOULD BE THE SECOND READING FOR THIS SAME PIECE AUTOMATICALLY, UH, FOR THE SAME PIECE, SUB COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON ADOPTION AT THAT OR PASS IT TO ANOTHER.

THE NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE P, WHICH IS THE 2023 MONTGOMERY COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER AGREEMENT.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION ONTO MONDAY AS A SECOND? READING? OKAY.

[ 2023 Montgomery County Public Defender Agreement]

UH, TONY, YES.

UH, THIS IS STANDARD LEGISLATION THE COUNCIL SEES EACH YEAR.

UM, THE TWO NEXT, THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE GONNA BE VERY SIMILAR IN THAT RESPECT.

UH, THIS IS FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDERS, UH, CONTRACT FOR 2023.

UH, THERE'S A SLIGHT INCREASE OF SEVERAL DOLLARS PER CASE.

UH, THE RATE FOR 2023 AND THE AGREEMENT WOULD BE $234 AND 12 CENTS PER CASE.

AND, UM, NOT MUCH MORE TO SAY ABOUT IT THAN THAT.

AND, UH, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE, BUT OTHERWISE WE'D ASK, UH, TO PLACE THIS ON THE AGENDA ON MONDAY FOR APPROVAL SO THE AGREEMENT CAN BE IN PLACE FOR, UH, THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.

ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING PUBLIC DEFENDER OR AGREEMENT? ANY OBJECTIONS TO MONDAY? OKAY.

AND THEN NEXT IS THE SAME ITEM, UH, THREE Q

[ 2023 Miami County Public Defender Agreement]

FOR THE, UH, MIAMI COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER.

AND THAT'S CORRECT, UH, BECAUSE THE SCOPE OF SERVICES IN THE NUMBER OF CASES IS A LOT LESS IN MIAMI COUNTY.

UM, THEY JUST CHARGE US A FLAT RATE OF $826 AND 88 CENTS IN TOTAL FOR ALL OF THEIR SERVICES FOR A YEAR.

SO THAT'S QUITE A BARGAIN.

I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS ON MONDAY AS WELL.

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AND ANY OBJECTION OR ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MIAMI COUNTY DEFENDER PUBLIC DEFENDER AGREEMENT? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND NEXT UP

[ Board And Commission Appointments * Arts and Beautification Commission - Appointment]

IS ITEM THREE R, WHICH IS BOARD AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS, TONY.

UH, CITIZENS WATER AND SEWER ADVISORY BOARD.

UH, WE HAVE TWO THIS EVENING.

THE FIRST IS A APPOINTMENT TO THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION.

UH, THE RECOMMENDATION, THE INTERVIEW PANEL IS TO APPOINT SKYLAR RADER TO THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION FOR A TERM REMAINING JUNE 30TH, 2025.

THE BACKGROUND CHECK HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND PROCESSED THROUGH HR, AND, UH, I WOULD KINDLY ASK COUNSEL'S, UH, APPROVAL OF THIS MOTION ON THE AGENDA ON MONDAY.

ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY.

AND NEXT WOULD BE, UH, FOR THE WA

[ * Citizens Water and Sewer Advisory Board - Appointment]

THAT IS CORRECT.

AND, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE INTERVIEW PANEL WOULD BE THE APPOINTMENT OF YOGI SINGAL TO THIS BOARD FOR A TERM ENDING JANUARY 1ST, 2024.

THE BACKGROUND CHECK IS ALSO BEEN COMPLETE ON MR. SINGAL, AND SO WE WOULD ASK FOR COUNSEL'S APPROVAL OF THIS MOTION ON MONDAY'S AGENDA.

ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY.

SEE NUMBER, SEE BOTH OF THOSE.

NOTE THAT A, AS OF THESE APPOINTMENTS, WE WOULD BE AT FULL CAPACITY ACROSS ALL OUR BOARDS OF COMMISSIONS, THOUGH.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME, UH, PEOPLE ARE NOT GONNA BE SEEKING REAPPOINTMENTS OF TERMS THAT ARE COMING UP AND SUCH, SO WE'LL BEAT BACK AT IT AGAIN, BUT WE CAN LIVE IN THAT MOMENT FOR A BRIEF AMOUNT OF TIME, .

AND, UH, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, UH, BRIAN HAS INFORMED ME THERE IS A NEED FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING.

UH, TONY, WOULD YOU READ THE MOTION, PLEASE? YEAH.

IT'D BE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER THE SALE OR OTHER DISPOSITION OF UNNEEDED PROPERTY BY COMPETITIVE BID.

IS THERE A MOTION, RICHARD? MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE REASONS STATED.

SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND.

IN MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

UH, ONCE WE RETURN FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE WILL LET EVERYONE KNOW IF ANY DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.

OKAY, MARK, WE'RE GOOD.