Sep 12, 2022 City Council Meeting

SEVEN, CITIZENS COMMENTS.

AND NUMBER

[7. Citizens Comments]

UH, WE HAVE TWO I'D FIRST CALL OUT MR. DAVID GOERS TO THE PODIUM.

YEAH, YOU WEREN'T HERE THREE WEEKS AGO.

SO I TOOK YOU OFF THE LIST.

JUST I HAVE TO HAVE OLD TIMERS ON THEM.

YOU'RE YOU'RE GONNA GET A PLAQUE SOMEDAY.

YOURSELF, MOM AND DAD WOULD BE VERY PROUD OF THOSE 34 YEARS SO FAR.

THERE AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC LIGHT AT RUSTIC WOODS AND TAYLORSVILLE 14 MONTHS AT THIS TIME.

NO ANSWER.

WE GO UP BACK WAY, TAYLORSVILLE OR LAWRENCEVILLE, WHICHEVER WE CAN GET OUT OF AT THE TIME TO BRIDGEWATER TO 40 EAST TO 2 0 2 SOUTH TO NORTH SHOPPING, ACTUALLY TRAFFIC THAT FEEDS OFF A RIP WRAP TO TAYLORSVILLE DURING PEAKS TIMES HEAVIER THAN TRAFFIC.

THAT COMES FROM 2 0 2 NORTH 40 EAST AND 40 WEST.

THAT FEED INTO 2 0 2 TRAFFIC GOING TWO OH TOWARD TWO NORTH.

IF THE PEOPLE CAN GET UP THERE, OF COURSE IS EXCEPTIONALLY HEAVY.

THE TRAFFIC CAN TURN RIGHT INTO PARK PARK TOWN AND THE PARKWAY.

EACH ONE OF 'EM HAVING A TRAFFIC LIGHT, MAYBE JUST COMING OUT FROM THE LEFT, THEY GOT A TRAFFIC LIGHT SO THEY CAN GET OUT OF THEIR AREA.

I AM SURE THAT 2 0 1 IN THE PARKWAY WILL HAVE A TRAFFIC LIGHT BEFORE WE DO AT TAYLORSVILLE AND RUSTIC WOODS.

CAUSE THE STATE PROBABLY SUBSIDIZES IT JUST LIKE TRAFFIC LIGHT, PROBABLY GOING OUT TO 2 0 2 FROM LONGFORD.

IN FACT, IN HUBER HEIGHTS, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A TRAFFIC LIGHT OUTSIDE OF BEING ON THE STATE ROUTES.

DO WE ANYMORE? AFTER THE ONE TAYLORVILLE WAS TAKEN DOWN YEARS AGO, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ONE.

SO CHANCES OF US GETTING THE LIGHT THERE DON'T LOOK GOOD.

I DON'T THINK IT WOULD KEEP ANYONE FROM GETTING KILLED, BUT MOST SLOW DOWN SPEED IN SOME CASES, UH, YEAH, PEOPLE ARE GONNA SPEED ANYHOW AND DRIVE RECKLESSLY.

WE HAVE IT ALL THE TIME RECOGNITION FOR TOWNSHIP LEADERS WAS MY POINT.

NUMBER TWO, THAT WORKED DILIGENTLY TO BECOME A CITY, GAVE MY INFO TO MR. ROGERS, WHICH HE WILL SHARE WITH YOU.

YES, I HAVE IT, UH, 15 PEOPLE THAT I KNOW.

I'M SURE SOMEBODY ELSE MUST KNOW SOME TO, TO THAT.

WHEN CHARLIE RECRUITED ME, YOU WERE PROBABLY STILL OVER THERE CHASING THE GIRLS AT WAYNE AT THE TIME 73.

YOU HAD STILL BEEN IN SCHOOL, WOULDN'T YOU? YEAH.

CAUSE I'M AT LEAST 16 YEARS OLDER THAN YOU AND I WAS 29 AT THE TIME.

THEN TWO, WE NEED A LITTLE MORE DIVERSIFICATION MAYBE SINCE WE HAVE THE HIGH PRICE HOUSES ON NORTH SIDE NOW, AND WE OWN THAT 51 ACRES UP THERE.

SO YOU HAD TO BE OKAY.

POINTING THEM.

NUMBER THREE.

I HOPE PROJECTS LIKE THE STORAGE FACILITY WITH JUST A COUPLE EMPLOYEES.

HOPE NO ABATEMENT WAS GIVEN TO THAT PROPERTY.

THAT'S NOT GONNA PUT ANY MUCH MONEY IN THE CITY COFFERS AND THAT MEDICAL BUILDING UP THERE BETWEEN I'M WORKING UP TO THE MAYOR'S CORNER, THE MAYOR'S CORNER BEING MR. GORE, BECAUSE 2 0 1 IS UH, MR. FISHER AND MR. BEACH'S CORNER.

AND THAT'S THAT'S I KNOW THAT IT'S CAUSED A LOT OF TROUBLE DURING THE PANDEMIC.

I THINK THAT THE FARM AND FLEET STORE THERE, NOBODY WAS PAYING ATTENTION TO 'EM AND IT GOT A LITTLE BIT OUTTA CONTROL.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM LIES.

AND WE GOT LITTLE SOUR GRAPES GOING ON THERE TODAY BECAUSE WE LET IT GO, UH, IN OUR CITY OF 42,000, WHICH WE'VE BEEN GROWING WITH 300,000 PLUS VEHICLES.

I THINK , I HOPE THAT FIRST FIGURE IS CORRECT.

SHE'S POSITIONING.

WOULD'VE BEEN BETTER ON BRENT RATHER THAN TROY MR. FISHER AND MR. BEACH'S CORNER RATHER THAN MAYOR GORE'S CORNER, LARGEST PRODUCER OF SALES AND TRAFFIC OVER THERE, UH, WOULD BE DRAW, WOULD BE WALMART.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN UNHAPPY TO BE OVER THAT WAY.

UM, AND

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WE COULD ASK SOMEBODY LIKE NORMAN MAINE TO PUT ONE OF HIS STORES UP THERE.

DOROTHY LANE MARKETS THAT'D BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW.

UH, AND THEN TWO, LIKE GETTING TALKING ABOUT THE 51 ACRES, IF WE CAN BORROW MONEY TO BUY 51 ACRES OF LAND, I THINK WE COULD BORROW SOME MONEY TO HELP WITH THESE INNER STREETS.

I KNOW WE GOT A STREET PROGRAM, BUT WE'VE GROWN SO LEAPS AND BOUNDS.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT PROGRAM AND INCREASE IT A LITTLE BIT.

THE STREETS ARE TERRIBLE, THE INNER STREETS.

I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF THAT.

IT'S GETTING A LITTLE OUTDATED FOR THE PROGRAM IS A LITTLE OUTDATED FROM WHEN IT STARTED.

IT'S GOOD.

THE LONG WAS THE CURVE PROGRAM AND EVERYTHING.

IT'S ALL GOOD, BUT WE NEED TO UPDATE IT.

CITY MANAGER.

GOOD THING.

WE GOT GOOD DEPARTMENT HEADSS THEY HAVE GOOD WORTH ETHIC AND ARE ABLE TO GET BY WITHOUT A FULL-TIME LEADER, THE BUSINESS AND TOWNSHIP LEADERS ON MY LIST.

WOULD'VE NEVER LET THAT POSITION GO THAT LONG.

YOU TALK ABOUT BREAKING THE RULES.

ME GOING OVER TO FIVE MINUTES, YOU GUYS ARE BREAKING THE RULES BY TAKING ALL UNREASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO FIND A CITY MANAGER.

THIS IS PART OF THE ESTABLISHED CHARTER AND NEED NOT TO WAIT SIX MORE MONTHS.

I THINK YOU NEED TO GET IN THERE AND WORK ON IT.

NOW.

NO OFFENSE TO SCOTT AND BRIAN.

I THINK THEY DID A WONDERFUL JOB AND I THINK MAYBE HE SHOULD HAVE GIVEN POSITION TO ONE OF THEM AND THEN IT WOULDN'T HAVE OPEN NEED TO CONSIDER NEEDS OF THE TAX PAYING CONSTITUENTS MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE.

AMEN.

HOW MUCH TIME DID I GO OVER? UH, MR. ROGERS? ABOUT TWO MINUTES.

I'M GOING THAT'S YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU GUYS.

AREN'T GONNA SEE ME AGAIN.

I'VE GOT OTHER PLACES TO GO, BUT UH, IT'S BEEN ENJOYABLE.

I GOT TO MEET EVERYBODY AND I'VE ENJOYED THIS, UH, SUMMER I KNOW NOT A WHOLE, LOT'S GONNA COME OUT WHAT I'VE SAID TO YOU.

ISN'T IT? I THINK, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, ARE AWARE OF, OF, OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN.

UH, YOU KNOW, THINGS DON'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

WE ARE, WE KNOW OUR STAFF IS, UH, OVERWORKED, LOTS OF THE THINGS THAT YOU TALK ABOUT I'VE UM, BRIAN, ARE WE NOT IN COMMUNICATION EVERY DAY? AND YOU KNOW, YOU COULD ONLY, YOU CAN ONLY PUSH THE HORSE SO FAR BEFORE THEY BREAK.

ALL GO IN THE BACK ROOM, WRITE AN EMAIL AND SEND IT TO ME.

AND THAT'S JUST THE UNFORTUNATE SITUATION THAT WE FIND OURSELVES IN RIGHT NOW.

UM, WELL I FIRMLY BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE A CITY MANAGER AS WELL, AND WE WERE REALLY CLOSE TO HIRING ONE JUST WASN'T IN THE CARDS THIS LAST TIME.

SO, UM, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE COMING AROUND.

THAT'S WHAT THAT ROOM IS BACK THERE FOR YOU GUYS TO GET TOGETHER, GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LIPS TO GOD'S EARS.

NEXT UP WE HAVE MR. VINCE KING.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

UH, AGAIN, MY NAME IS VINCE KING AND I AM A WELL NOW A LONG TIME VOLUNTEER WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD TODAY.

I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU, UM, BRIEFLY ABOUT THE DISCUSSION YOU ALL HAD, UM, ABOUT THE BOARD AND COMMISSIONS, UM, AS WELL AS WITH SHANNON.

UM, BUT I DON'T WANNA FOCUS ON WHAT YOU SPECIFICALLY TALKED ABOUT.

I WANT TO INSTEAD FOCUS ON SOME SUGGESTIONS, UM, BECAUSE I THINK, UM, THERE WERE SOME GOOD POINTS AND THEN THERE WERE SOME POINTS THAT I FELT DISGUSTED BY AND UNDERAPPRECIATED BY SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS MADE.

SO INSTEAD I WOULD DECIDED TO FOCUS ON SOME SUGGESTIONS AND THERE ARE BASICALLY THREE OF THEM.

SO THE FIRST ONE IS INCREASED COMMUNICATION.

UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BETWEEN THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL IS INCREASED COMMUNICATION.

AS OF NOW, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH, WELL, I SPEAK WITH SEVERAL OF YOU, EITHER AT THE EVENTS WHEN YOU COME OR, UM, OUT IN THE KROGERS OR WHEREVER.

UM, BUT, UM, AS A BODY, I DON'T RECEIVE THAT COMMUNICATION.

YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG, IF WE'RE NOT MEETING YOUR OBJECTIVES, WE DON'T RECEIVE THAT AS A BODY.

I MIGHT RECEIVE COUNCILMAN C'S OPINION, MS. BAKER'S OPINION, BUT NOT AS A BODY.

AND THAT I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT WE, THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS NEED.

WHETHER YOU

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THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING WELL, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE NEXT YEAR.

UM, BUT SOME OF THE COMMENTS, UM, THEY WERE DISHEARTENING.

THE SECOND THING, UM, WE TALKED, YOU TALKED ABOUT EMPOWERING THE BOARDS AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

UM, THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED.

UM, INITIALLY IT STARTED THAT WAY AND WE, WE FELT WELL, I PERSONALLY FELT WE WERE GETTING EMPOWERED.

HOWEVER, UM, I THINK SOME OF THOSE, UM, SOME OF THE AREAS HAVE BEEN PULLED BACK, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO CERTAIN DECISIONS, DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE WITHOUT CONSULTING THE BOARD OR ALLOWING US TO HELP MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS CITY COUNCIL EMPOWER US, ALLOW US TO BE FULL TIME CONTRIBUTORS, TO THINGS THAT GOVERN HOW WE INTERACT, GOVERN HOW WE WORK AND WHAT PROGRAMS WE HAVE.

UM, THAT WOULD INCLUDE THINGS LIKE THE HANDBOOK, LOOKING AT THE CHARTER.

IF OUR CHARTER IS OUTDATED, ALLOW US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK TO REWRITE THE CHARTERS.

UM, SO ALLOW US TO, TO, YOU KNOW, TO BE FULL-TIME CONTRIBUTORS, WHETHER IT'S WITH COUNCIL AND BOARD, BOARD AND VICE SHARES IN A ROOM, ALLOW US THAT OPPORTUNITY.

UH, SECOND NOW THE NEXT ITEM, UM, I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT OUR CHARTER.

UM, OUR CHARTER SAYS, RECOMMENDS AND ADVISES.

IT ALSO SAYS TO WORK, TO PROMOTE, UM, I CAN TELL YOU FOR A FACT, I WORK TO PROMOTE THE PARKS AND RECREATION EVERY DAY, OR WHENEVER I'M OUT HERE IN THE CITY AT ANY OUR EVENT, I ASK QUESTIONS, I'M AT THE FARMER'S MARKET EVERY SATURDAY, OR WHENEVER WE HAVE IT AT THE MUSIC FESTIVALS MUSIC SERIES, AND I'M ASKING QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? WHAT, UM, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IMPROVED? WHAT THINGS DO YOU LIKE? HOW DID YOU LIKE TO SHOW? JUST TRYING TO GET FEEDBACK, INTERACT, GET MY FACE OUT THERE.

SO THAT WAY FOLKS KNOW, HEY, THAT'S VINCE, HE'S ON THE PARTS AND RECREATION BOARD.

WE CAN TALK TO HIM ABOUT SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE GOING ON WITHIN THE CITY WHEN IT COMES TO THE PARTS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US, YOU KNOW, REALLY TAKE A HARD LOOK AT WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS AND THEN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGES, BUT DO SO WITH THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND NOT AS A SEPARATE ENTITY, THAT'S NOT EMPOWERING YOUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

AND THE LAST ONE.

UM, THANK YOU.

GOES A LONG WAY WHEN IT COMES TO INDIVIDUALS, ESPECIALLY VOLUNTEERS WHO PUT IN COUNTLESS HOURS, UM, TO PUT ON A LOT OF THESE SHOWS, A LOT OF THE SHOWS, A LOT OF THE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE MARI GOLD FESTIVAL.

WE HAVE ALL THE MUSIC SERIES, THE MOVIES, ALL THESE VOLUNTEERS DO A LOT OF GREAT WORK.

UM, JUST A SIMPLE, THANK YOU, COMING OUT, SHAKING.

THE VOLUNTEER'S HAND CAN GO A LONG WAY AND IT SHOWS THAT YOU REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DO.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE OF YOU COME OUT AND JUST DO THAT.

UM, AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO JUST END WITH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU TO OUR GREAT CITY STAFF WITHOUT ALL THE WORK THAT OUR CITY STAFF HAS DONE OR CONTINUES TO DO.

A LOT OF THESE EVENTS WOULD NOT HAPPEN.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT'S ALSO THANK OUR CITY STAFF.

YOU KNOW, THE FARMER'S MARKET, THE MUSIC SERIES, THE MOVIE NIGHTS, JULY 4TH, A LOT OF THE WORK THAT THEY DO, IT'S BEHIND THE SCENES.

LET'S NOT FORGET TO THANK THEM FOR ALL OF THEIR, THEIR HARD WORK.

AND THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE TO SAY TODAY.

AND I KNOW THAT I, I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE.

UM, BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE DID NOT HAVE A MEETING FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS ONCE, BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE A, A VICE CHAIR OR A CHAIR TO CHAIR, THE JULY MEETING, I JUST HAD SURGERY AND MY VICE CHAIR WAS NOT AVAILABLE LAST MONTH.

WE DID NOT HAVE A MEETING BECAUSE WE WEREN'T UNABLE TO ACCESS THROUGH, WHICH HAD SINCE BEEN REMEDIED.

SO I'LL JUST GO OUT, GO AHEAD AND SAY THAT NOW BEFORE SOMEONE SAYS WE HAVEN'T HAD MEETING IN TWO MONTHS SO THAT IS OUR REASON WE WOULD, WE WERE ALL HERE LAST MONTH AND READY TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS, BUT WE COULD NOT DO THAT.

SO WITHOUT FURTHER DO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO MY COMMENTS.

AGAIN, I DIDN'T WANNA REHASH WHAT YOU ALL HAD DISCUSSED BEFORE, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU COMMUNICATE TO YOUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AND YOU ALLOW US TO BE A PART OF THIS PROCESS INSTEAD OF BRINGING US IN AT THE LAST MINUTE.

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THANK YOU, BRIAN.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A PARKS AND REC MANAGER, AND THAT IS PART OF THE STAFF THAT, THAT VINCE IS TALKING ABOUT.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN IT COMES TO THE, UM, THE MUSIC NIGHTS, I KNOW JOSH IS, UH, VERY INVOLVED.

UH, I'M ASSUMING VERY INVOLVED IN THE BANDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IS THAT, SO IS THAT OUR PARKS MANAGER WHO'S PICKING THAT STUFF OR IS JOSH WORKING DIRECTLY WITH YOU? IS, DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY SAY ANY RECOMMENDATIONS IN WHAT BANDS THAT WE HIRE AND HOW MUCH THEY, HOW MUCH THEY COST AND COULD WE HAVE LESS BANDS AND PAY MORE MONEY TO GET SOME BIGGER BANDS, SOME MORE REGIONAL BANDS? SO WHAT LEVEL? AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW.

AND IF ANYBODY ELSE UP HERE KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THAT, PLEASE SHARE.

BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EMPOWERMENT, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A PARKS MANAGER WHO SHOULD BE THE LIAISON AT THE MEETINGS WITH YOU, THAT IS THE EMPOWERMENT OF COUNCIL COUNCIL HIRES, A CITY MANAGER, THE CITY MANAGERS HAVE PROMOTED THAT PERSON TO BE OUR PARKS AND REC MANAGER WHO SHOULD BE DIRECTLY INVOLVED WITH THE BOARD IN MAKING THOSE DECISIONS.

THAT IS HOW EMPOWERMENT OF THIS COUNCIL WORKS.

IS ARE THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING, ALL THOSE EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN OUR PARKS, WHAT LEVEL OF COMMUNICATION, AND IF NOT, THEN WE NEED, THEN THIS COUNCIL I'M GONNA RECOMMEND GETS A VERY CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT THAT CHAIN OF COMMAND LOOKS LIKE FROM THIS COUNCIL TO OUR CITY MANAGER, TO OUR PARKS MANAGER, TO BE THE LIAISON AND WORK WITH OUR PARKS BOARD.

SO THEY DO FEEL EMPOWERED.

AND IF WE DON'T HAVE A CLEAR POLICY ON HOW THAT WORKS, WHO THAT IS, WHAT THAT LINE OF COMMUNICATION LOOKS LIKE, AND BRIAN, WE NEED TO GET IT ESTABLISHED.

WE NEED TO GET IT ESTABLISHED QUICK NANCY.

AND, AND I'D LIKE, IT REALLY SPELLED OUT WHAT THE ROLE OF THE LIAISON IS.

UM, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IT'S TO KEEP THEM WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THEIR, UM, OF THE RULES OF THE, OF THE COUNCIL, OF THE, UH, COMMISSIONS THAT'S BEEN SPELLED OUT IN THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION HANDBOOK THAT IT'S NOT TO SAY, YOU CAN DO THIS.

YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

IT'S TO GUIDE THEM, TO KEEP THEM WITHIN THE LEGAL LINES, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT THAT.

SO I'M, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU.

I MEAN, YOU, YOU DO A, UH, TREMENDOUS JOB AND WE SEE YOU OUT THERE ALL THE TIME AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE PROBABLY DON'T SAY IT ENOUGH.

UM, BUT I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED THAT YOU DO NOT FEEL EMPOWERED BECAUSE LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, WE HAVE EMPOWERED YOU IN EVERY COMMISSION TO DO THEIR JOB.

AND IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT'S STOPPING YOU FROM DOING YOUR JOB, I'D CERTAINLY LIKE TO HAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THAT IS.

SO WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT EMPOWERMENT, I'M TALKING ABOUT EMPOWERMENT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT NO ONE SENT ME ANYTHING IN WRITING THAT SAYS, YOU ARE YOU ALL, THIS IS YOUR JOB.

THIS IS WHAT YOU ALL SHOULD BE DOING.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AT COUNCIL MEETINGS, BUT THAT HASN'T HAPPENED THAT HASN'T COME DIRECTLY FROM COUNCIL TO MEETINGS.

SO I DON'T FEEL EMPOWERED.

AND THEN WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STAFF LIAISON, MY STAFF LIAISON IS CHRIS MM-HMM .

JOSH IS THE PARKS MANAGER.

HE AND I WORK WELL TOGETHER.

AND I WORK WELL TOGETHER AND I WORK WELL WITH SARAH AND JERRY AND ALL OF THEM.

UM, SO WHEN WE COME TO MEETINGS AND JOSH HAS UPDATES, HE HAS HIS OWN SECTION.

HE PROVIDES HIS UPDATES AND WE HELP TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AS WELL.

BUT WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT EMPOWERMENT, IT'S I PROVIDED, FOR EXAMPLE, I PROVIDED A PRIORITY LIST FOR COUNCIL FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

SO YES, I FEEL EMPOWERED WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.

I DID THAT, BUT I DON'T SEE COUNCIL TALKING ABOUT THAT PRIORITY LIST.

FOLLOWING THOSE MEETINGS, JOSH HAS ADDED THEM TO HIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

HOPEFULLY I GET THOSE WORDS, RIGHT.

UM, TO THE SIP, BUT COUNCIL HASN'T COME BACK AND EITHER REPRIORITIZED IT OR ANYTHING.

AND THAT PRIORITY LIST WAS SOMETHING THAT WE STARTED PROBABLY 2018, 2019 WHEN ROB WAS HERE.

SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT IT, I'M SUBMITTING SOMETHING, UM, TO YOU, I'M SORRY, I'M PRESENTING IT TO YOU LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT I ACTUALLY SENT IT TO TONY TO SEND TO YOU ALL.

BUT I DID NOT SEE ANYTHING HAPPEN AFTER THAT THINGS HAVE GOTTEN DONE BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE SIP, YOU KNOW, SUCH AS THE PLAYGROUNDS AND ALL OF

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THAT.

BUT I DON'T SEE COUNCIL TAKING ACTION ON MY RECOMMENDATIONS.

I CAN ONLY PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS AND ADVICE BASED ON WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS.

SO I PRESENT IT AND THEN IT'S, COUNSEL'S TURN TO TAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND DISCUSS AND FINALIZE IT WITH STAFF.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT.

SO WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT EMPOWERMENT, YEAH.

I'M TAKING ONE STEP, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THERE.

THEN THERE ARE OTHER DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE THAT, YOU KNOW, CREATING OTHER SPECIAL COMMITTEES AND ALL OF THAT, BUT THEY DON'T COME TO US FIRST TO ASK US, CAN YOU LOOK INTO THIS? YOU KNOW, THEY IT'S JUST DONE, YOU KNOW, I'LL COME TO A MEETING OR SEE IT ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY, WE'RE DOING THIS.

WELL, WHAT ARE WE HERE FOR? YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE, WE HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AT OUR MEETING.

THERE ARE SOME INSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE, BUT THEN THERE ARE OTHERS THAT WE HAVE NOT.

AND, AND THAT'S ALL THAT I'M SAYING IS THAT IF COUNCIL HAS AN IDEA IN THEIR HEAD ON WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, PRESENT THAT, OR EMAIL THAT TO THE BOARDS AND SAY, WE WANT YOU TO LOOK INTO THIS.

AND THIS IS WHEN YOU NEED TO HAVE YOUR RECOMMENDATION BACK TO BY THAT'S ALL, I'M SORRY, DIRECTIVE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M USED TO WHEN IT COMES TO CERTAIN THINGS.

BUT THAT'S ALL THAT I'M ASKING IS ALLOW US TO HELP MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS INSTEAD OF JUST SKIPPING US AND THEN MAKING A DECISION.

AND THEN WE'RE LIKE, OKAY, WELL COUNCIL'S DOING THIS OR WHAT, SO WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP COMPLIMENT THEIR DECISION? WHAT, HOW CAN WE FURTHER EXPAND THAT? YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW I'M WORKING ON PROGRAMMING.

YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SAY I CAN'T DO PROGRAMMING IN THE, IN THE CHARTER.

IT SAYS WORK TO PROMOTE.

SO I'M FINDING WAYS TO DO THAT SUCH AS CREATING.

WE HAD OUR SECOND, I THINK, BIG EARTH DAY EVENT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD EARTH DAY.

WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD SOME OTHER THINGS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE AND HAVE A TON OF SUMMER EVENTS.

YOU KNOW, WHEN THE PARTS, WHEN EVERYONE ELSE IS STARTING TO HAVE ALL THESE EVENTS TOO, THERE HAS TO BE SOME BALANCE.

AND I THINK THAT WE'RE FINDING THAT RIGHT BALANCE.

IF I LIMIT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO SPECIFICALLY FROM THE PARKS PERSPECTIVE, WHERE WE CAN HELP DO THAT.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED TO CHRIS, CHRIS HAS OFFERED, UM, SOME FREE CLASSES FROM THE WHY, YOU KNOW, ON CERTAIN SATURDAYS OF THE MONTH DURING THE SUMMER.

AND WE WERE, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT HOW DO WE DO THAT? HOW DO WE PROMOTE SOME OF THESE OTHER FREE CLASSES THAT ARE GOING ON OUT HERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND HOW DO WE SPREAD THEM THROUGHOUT OUR OTHER PARTS? A LOT OF IT HAPPENS AT EEL BERG OR THOMAS CLOUD.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PARK IN THE CENTER, THE BASKETBALL COURTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE ARE WE GONNA GET THAT? UM, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ONE NORTH OF 70 THAT'S IN A PARK , SO THERE MIGHT BE BASKETBALL COURTS AT THE SCHOOLS, BUT NOT IN THE PARK.

AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HELPING US, HELPING US AND TELLING US YOU'RE EMPOWERED, PROVIDE US WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

AND THAT'S ALL THAT I'M SAYING.

I DON'T, I DON'T GET ARGUMENT TO THE ABOUT IT, BUT THAT'S ALL THAT I'M SAYING, RICHARD.

AND I'LL COME BACK TO MARK RICHARD.

WOULD, YOU, YOU SPEAK ABOUT IT, EMPOWERMENT AND COMMUNICATION, AND I COMPLETELY, UM, AGREE WITH YOU ON THOSE POINTS.

UM, I KNOW EVENTS, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SUGGESTED HERE TODAY IS, IS THINGS THAT I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY.

AND, AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT ON THIS DIAS AND EVEN AT YOUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MEETING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAD, UH, STARTED TO BRING UP AND, UM, AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND, UH, AND PUSH THAT ON THROUGH, UM, IT WAS ROUGHLY 20 18, 20 19.

I THINK WE HAD SOME SERIOUS CONVERSATIONS AS A COUNCIL AND A BOARDING COMMISSIONS ON THE, THE REINTRODUCTION OF A MARRIAGE, UH, BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE Y M C A, UH, ON WHAT THAT WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, UM, THIS COUNCIL AND SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, AND EVEN SOME MEMBERS OF YOUR BOARD AND COMMISSION.

I HAD STATED THAT THAT RELATIONSHIP WASN'T REALLY WORKING OUT THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.

AND THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A LOT OF REBRANDING, A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, REINTRODUCTION OF THAT MARRIAGE.

UH, I KNOW A CITY STAFF, THE CITY MANAGER AT THAT TIME, UH, PUT TOGETHER A LONG LIST, UM, OF THINGS THAT THE Y M C A WAS GOING TO HIT AND THE CITY WAS GOING TO HIT.

UM, AND, AND FRANKLY, IT'S, IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS SINCE I'VE SEEN THAT ADDRESSED, UM, NOT ONLY AT THE PARKS AND REC BOARD, BUT AT OUR LEVEL AS WELL.

UM, AND I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT A REVIEW, I THINK IT NEEDS TO START THERE.

UM, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND DURING THAT, UM, ROCKY TIME PERIOD, UM, THAT'S WHERE JOSH KING AND, AND, AND THAT POSITION WAS CREATED MASTER, UM, BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH BEING DONE, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF IDEAS BEING PRESENTED.

UM, VINCE, YOU, YOU,

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AS A MATTER OF FACT, I MADE THOSE EXACT COMMENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE SEAT SEVERAL WEEKS AGO.

MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, UM, IT WAS RECENTLY, UM, PUBLISHED, UM, IN THE NEWS AND, UM, AND DISCUSSED THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN EXPANSION OF THOMAS CLAUDE PARK.

WAS THAT EVER DISCUSSED AT THE PARKS AND REC BOARD? NO, AND THAT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD MEETING IN TWO MONTHS.

I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT AGAIN, BUT NO, I DIDN'T EVEN RECEIVE A NOTIFICATION.

I SAW IT ON FACEBOOK FIRST.

MM-HMM AND THEN NOW MY NEXT QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO SEND AN EMAIL, I'M GONNA SEND AN EMAIL, UM, WHERE, YEAH.

HOW, WHAT'S THE POINT, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE AND WHAT, WHAT'S THE PLAN? SO, NO, I DID.

I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT UNTIL I SAW IT.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST ONE OF MANY, YOU KNOW, LABS OF COMMUNICATION.

I THINK THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY DO BETTER ON AS A COUNCIL, AS A CITY, TO OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

UM, I MEAN, THAT'S A, THAT'S A PRETTY HUGE DEAL THAT WE'RE EXPANDING OUR LARGEST PARK AND, UM, AND THIS COUNCIL AT NO POINT IN TIME EVER RECEIVED THE FEEDBACK OF THE PARKS AND REC BOARD, UH, OR ANY OF ITS MEMBERS, UM, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF COMMUNICATION.

UH, WE DO HAVE TO EMPOWER MORE, UM, AND IF THAT'S A SITUATION THAT THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO HOLD SPECIAL MEETINGS WITH THE STAFF LIAISON AND THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR OF THOSE COMMITTEES, UM, THAT IS SOMETHING I'M I'M OPEN TO DO, UM, SO THAT WE CAN GET ON THE RIGHT FOOT AND WE CAN BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE.

CUZ RIGHT NOW I FEEL LIKE WE'RE BEING REACTIVE TO A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMISSION SITUATIONS AND IT'S GOING TO, IT'S NOW PROHIBITING US FROM MOVING FORWARD.

UM, SO I, I NEED TO, I THINK WE NEED TO FIND A PATH FORWARD TO YOUR COMMENTS.

LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT, WHAT'S SAID IN THE PAST WHAT'S DONE IN THE PAST, LET'S FIND A WAY FORWARD.

AND WHAT IS THAT WAY? UM, I THINK THE MAYOR BROUGHT UP A REVIEW.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT REVIEW OF THE Y M C A AND OUR RELATIONSHIP, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE CITY GETTING OUT OF THAT RELATIONSHIP? WHAT IS THE RESIDENTS GETTING IN WHAT'S THE PARK AND RECREATION BOARD GETTING OUT THAT WHAT'S THAT LOOK LIKE? ARE THERE THINGS AVAILABLE TO YOU FOLKS AND AVAILABLE MORE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT THAT'S IN THE, THAT AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVEN'T TAPPED INTO YET? RIGHT.

SO WITH THE, THE WHY IT'S A GREAT MARRIAGE, IT IS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE Y WANNA SAY THAT FOR SURE.

YOU KNOW, THEY DO A GREAT JOB WITH OUR KROGER AQUATIC CENTER AND DOING SOME OF THE OTHER EVENTS AT THE Y AS WELL AND LEADING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SHELTER RESERVATIONS AND ALL THAT STUFF.

UM, CHRIS HAS STEPPED UP, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR A YEAR ABOUT TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO GET OTHER ACTIVITIES IN THE PARK.

CHRIS AND HIS STAFF HAVE STEPPED UP AND THEY'RE OFFERING THOSE CLASSES AT NO COST THAT'S PART.

ONE OF WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US ALSO WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND THOSE WHO ARE OF WHO HAVE, LET'S SAY FITNESS CLASSES ALREADY DOWN THERE AT THE PARK IS ADVERTISED SOME OF THAT.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, I'M GONNA TRY AND WORK ON FOR NEXT YEAR, ESPECIALLY FOR PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH, YOU KNOW, JUST PUTTING THE WORD OUT.

DO, DO YOU LIKE TO RUN, COME DOWN TO THOMAS CLOUD PARK AT 7:00 AM AND JOIN.

SO AND SO RUN, HE WILL WORK, WALK YOU THROUGH EVERYTHING TA CHI, ALL OF THAT.

I WANNA HELP PROMOTE OUR PARTS, BUT I ALSO WANNA WORK WITH OUR CITIZENS WHO ARE ALREADY DOING VERY POSITIVE THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, SO CHRIS IS DOING A GREAT JOB, I THINK, BASED ON THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD IN 2000 8, 17, 18, SOMEWHERE ON THAT TIME.

HOW DO WE DO THAT? AND I KNOW THAT WAS BACK IN 20 18, 20, 19, 20 18, 20 19.

UM, YES, THAT WAS THE PERFECT TIME TO HAVE JOSH COME ON BOARD.

NOW WE HAVE JOSH AND WE HAVE CHRIS AND WE'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT FOCUSES, WHICH IS GREAT.

UM, SO I THINK THE MARRIAGE BETWEEN THE TWO ARE PERFECT, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED, OR AT LEAST TRYING TO BUILD EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED FOR THE PARTS PROGRAMS. SO I'LL, I'LL FOCUS ON THE PROGRAMS THERE.

WELL, I MAY FOLLOW UP WITH ONE OTHER QUESTION, MAYOR, UM, EVENTS.

I, I KNOW, UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UM, CHRIS, JOSH, THE CITY, UH, WAS WORKING ON A, A FUNDAMENTAL WAY TO, UM, ENHANCE THE SHELTER AND PARK RENTAL AVAILABILITY.

AND I KNOW THAT WAS GONNA BECOME MORE DIGITIZED.

UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE QR CODES, IT WAS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE BECAUSE, UH, IT WAS SAID AT THE TIME CITY STAFF DID NOT KNOW WHAT THE Y KNEW THERE WAS KIND OF A, A MISCOMMUNICATION WITH THOSE TWO HEADS.

UM, DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT STANDS AND IS THAT SOMETHING, AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW TODAY, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT MAYBE YOU CAN GET AHOLD OF THE STAFF LIAISON AND GET THAT TO CITY COUNCIL? I CAN, I CAN ASK THE QUESTION ON THAT.

I KNOW THAT WE TRIED IT WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER RESERVING MM-HMM , UM, AND THERE'S A CALENDAR, I THINK, UM, UM, WHERE THERE WAS ONE.

UM, BUT I THINK THE WISE SYSTEM DOESN'T ALLOW IT TO COMMUNICATE THAT WAY.

UM, SO THAT'S ANOTHER CONVERSATION THAT WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE IS

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SO YEAH, SO MAYBE WE NEED TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHERE WE KIND OF ENDED OFF DURING THAT TIME PERIOD WITH SOME OF THOSE TOPICS, UM, AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE AS A COUNCIL CAN EMPOWER YOU GUYS TO MOVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS FOR YES.

AND THAT'S ALL PART OF THE SMART TECHNOLOGY YES.

FOR PARTS PROGRAM.

THAT'S ON MY PRIORITY LIST.

AND I KNOW THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED ABOUT QUITE A BIT AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IT MOVE FORWARD.

THANK YOU, MAYOR MARK VINCE.

THANKS FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO GENUINELY.

UM, I REMEMBER WHEN YOU CREATED A LIST AND I THINK THE LIST WAS SO LARGE THAT WE HAD TO PRIORITIZE IT INTO AN A AND A B YES.

SO THIS COUNCIL IS BUILT TO ADDRESS THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THE PARKS BOARD IS BUILT TO COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND I THINK WHAT RICHARD AND I NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB AT IS NOT WAIT FOUR YEARS TO REVISIT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, LIKE QR CODES OR, OR IF WE THINK THERE'S A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE Y M C A NOT LET THAT LINGER FOR FOUR YEARS, BUT ASK OUR EXPERT AND TO HEAR HIM SAY, MAN, IT'S A PERFECT RELATIONSHIP.

RIGHT? SO I'LL MAKE A COMMITMENT THAT I'LL BE AVAILABLE INTO A BETTER JOB, RESPONDING TO YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, YOUR BOARDS.

BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE FRUSTRATING TO SPEND THE TIME AND THE EFFORT COMING UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS TO JUST INJECT THEM INTO A BLACK HOLE AND NOTHING EVER HAPPENS.

SO WHAT WE DID DO, UM, WHAT I HAVE DONE, I'VE TAKEN THAT A AND B LIST AND I'VE MOVED IT DOWN TO 10.

SO I WILL ALWAYS SUBMIT A TOP 10 OR 12.

FOR THE PRIORITY LIST THIS YEAR, I'M DOING A MAINTENANCE LIST.

SO I'M SPLITTING THE TWO, UM, COMPLETELY CUZ IT'S A LIE.

UM, THE MAINTENANCE LIST, I THINK WHEN WE INITIALLY DID IT, MAYBE HAD LIKE 60 THINGS ON IT.

AND THAT, I THINK THAT WAS WHEN MIKE, WE WERE WORKING WITH MIKE A LOT.

SO THAT HAD 60 THINGS.

SO NOW I'M GONNA WORK IT.

SO THAT WAY WE SUBMIT THE PRIORITY LIST IN JUNE.

AND THEN IN MAYBE NOT JUST OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, GO DO A MAINTENANCE LIST.

SO THAT WAY WE KNOW WHAT, WHAT AREAS WE NEED TO WORK ON, WHETHER IT'S PLANT MORE TREES OR BUILDING IN A BUILD, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING.

SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE SPLIT IT.

SO THAT WAY IT GIVES YOU ALL TIME TO THINK, TO TALK AND TO TAKE ACTION AS NEEDED.

AND OF COURSE THE PARKS MANAGER WILL WORK ON THINGS AS HE SEES 'EM AS WELL.

BUT SOME OF THE MAJOR THINGS WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT.

UM, AND WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF MONEY, THINGS GET REDIRECTED WHEN, UM, SOME OF OUR AMENITIES ARE DESTROYED OR ARE, UH, YEAH.

DESTROYED ONCE YOU CAN SAY IT LIKE THAT.

SO, AND WE KNOW THAT THINGS HAVE TO BE REED, BUT, UM, MY HOPE IS THAT IF WE CAN GET EVERYTHING TO WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE AND GET MORE CITIZENS INVOLVED, UM, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PREVENT SOME OF THAT DAMAGE IN THE FUTURE.

WELL, SO VINCE, I THINK THAT LIST OF 60 THAT YOU WERE KIND ENOUGH, YOU AND THE COMMITTEE TO PUT TOGETHER WAS NECESSARY.

IT WAS, I THINK THE LIST IS SHRUNK BECAUSE COUNCIL HAS EMPOWERED, FUNDED AND CAUSED A LOT OF THOSE CORRECTIONS TO BE MADE.

THE REASON WHY I BRING THAT UP, MOST, ALL OF OUR ASSETS THAT THE TAXPAYERS OWN ARE PUBLIC AND, AND PARKS AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

AND BRIAN, I THINK YOUR OFFICE IS WORKING ON A PLAN AND WORKING WITH CONTRACTORS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO ASSESS OUR ASSETS, OUR PARKS, OUR POOLS, OUR MUSIC CENTERS, AND YOU'RE GOING TO EMPOWER YOUR ORGANIZATION TO BETTER CARE FOR OUR ASSETS.

THAT IS CORRECT.

YES, SIR.

IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE COULD CONTINUE AND WORK WITH STAFF ON? YES.

AND, AND INCORPORATE THAT INTO SOME OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS? I BELIEVE SO.

I MEAN, WE WORK WELL WITH THE STAFF.

I MEAN, I GET ALONG WITH THEM VERY WELL.

I TALK TO THEM WHENEVER I HAVE TO GET READY FOR SOMETHING.

SO, UM, AND WE HAVE AN OPEN AND TRANSPARENT, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATION NORMALLY.

SO I THINK WE CAN DO THAT WELL.

AND NOW THAT I KNOW WHERE COUNCIL WANTS US TO GO, I HAVE SOME, I HAVE A PROJECTORY TO PRESENT TO THE NEXT CHAIR FOR, FOR 20, 23, WHOEVER THAT SHOULD BE.

SO YEAH, MAYBE YOU, AGAIN, MAYBE ME AGAIN, MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE WE DON'T KNOW.

SO ONE THING THAT I THINK WE WRESTLED WITH ORIGINALLY WITH THE 60 ITEM LIST WAS FUNDING.

WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS JUST CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE.

AND, AND BRIAN, IF MY MEMORY SERVES, UH, WE HAD A REVENUE SOURCE AND IT WAS CALLED THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER AND THAT REVENUE SOURCE HASN'T DECLINED, IT'S INCREASED.

SO I THINK THE FUNDING AS THE LIST WENT DOWN, OUR REVENUE IS INCREASED.

SO I THINK WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO FUND AND CAUSE CHANGE TO OCCUR.

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UH, YOU HAVE IN THE PAST, CAME TO THE COUNCIL AND GIVE PRESENTATIONS.

WOULD YOU CONTINUE THAT PLEASE? YES.

SO IN THE PAST I'VE DONE IT TWICE A YEAR.

WELL, NORMALLY TWICE A YEAR, UH, JUNE AND DECEMBER, I DO AN END OF YEAR REVIEW.

UM, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING NOW, UM, THAT THERE WILL BE A SCHEDULE DEVELOPED AND MY NEXT, MY ACTUAL UPDATE WILL BE IN OCTOBER.

THE FIRST ONE WILL BE, UH, THE FIRST COUNCIL WORK SESSION IN OCTOBER.

SO IT'LL BE IN OCTOBER.

SO THERE WOULD BE NOW A ROTATING SCHEDULE.

SO NOW I'LL KNOW I'LL WORK WITH TONY OR TONY WILL REMIND ME, THIS IS WHEN YOU'RE UPDATED.

SO YOU WILL GET THAT MORE OFTEN.

BUT WHEN POSSIBLE I WILL EITHER PRESENT MY, MY END OF YEAR REVIEW IN DECEMBER, OR I WILL EMAIL IT TO TONY TO PROVIDE TO COUNSEL IN, IN WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT YOU GIVE THAT PRESENTATION IN PERSON MM-HMM AND PROVIDE THAT LIST.

EVEN IF YOU'VE EMAILED IT, WOULD YOU CONSIDER GIVING THAT IN PERSON TO US SO WE COULD HAVE DIALOGUE BACK AND FORTH.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS I THINK WE WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN CAUSING CHANGE AND TO WHITTLING DOWN THAT 60 ITEM LIST DOWN TO PROBABLY SOMETHING HALF OF THAT TODAY MM-HMM IF NOT LESS.

SO THAT WORKED AND IF WE COULD COOKIE CUTTER AND BLUEPRINT THAT MOVING FORWARD, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

SO I APOLOGIZE PERSONALLY, IF I HAVEN'T BEEN, UM, INVOLVED ENOUGH, UH, I WAS CONVINCED THAT THE PARKS DID NEED ATTENTION.

I THINK THE ATTENTION WAS GIVEN.

I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE Y M C A AND THE CITY AND YOUR OPINION AS PARK DIRECTOR OR CHAIRMAN IS GOOD.

UM, WORKING WITH, UM, OUR PARKS MANAGER MM-HMM , UH, ANY SUGGESTIONS, NOT TONIGHT, NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT TONIGHT, BUT ANY SUGGESTIONS YOU WOULD HAVE TO ENHANCE HOW WE COULD BETTER ADMINISTER THINGS.

IF YOU COULD SHARE THAT WITH STAFF, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT MORE STAFF.

I MEAN MORE STAFF OR THE PARTS IS WHAT I WOULD SAY GENERALLY.

UM, AND THAT'S UM, WELL, OUR CITY'S BEEN VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE SOMETHING, A REVENUE STREAM, LIKE THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER, BRIAN, THAT I THINK BRINGS IN AN EXCESS OF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT ON THE BALLOT OF PARKS, LEVY, LIKE KETTERING AND OTHER CITIES HAVE.

SO I WOULD, I WOULD TAKE HIM UP ON MAYBE THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR MORE STAFF AND, AND MAYBE LOOK AT THAT, OKAY, THAT'D BE A HECK OF A RECOMMENDATION AND A ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR COUNCIL.

IF WE COULD SEE THAT THROUGH LIKE WE DID THE 60 ITEM LIST.

IT WOULD BE.

AND I'M ALSO LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW MR. SH SPOKE OF IT BEFORE THE VOLUNTEER LIST.

UM, I'M FROM MARYLAND.

SO, UM, BACK WHEN I WAS NOT THAT BIG, UM, WE HAD, UM, A HUGE VOLUNTEER CORE IN THE SUMMER.

WE DID A LOT OF CAMPS AND STUFF.

WE HAD TEENAGERS WATCHING OTHER KIDS.

SO I'M LOOKING AT TAPPING INTO SOME OF OUR YOUTH RESOURCES, ESPECIALLY OVER THE SUMMER FOR THE FARMERS MARKET AND MAYBE SOME OTHER THINGS TO SEE IF WE CAN HELP GET OUR YOUTH MORE INVOLVED, UM, IN, IN THE PARKS.

UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO EARTH DAY AND EDUCATING SOME OF OUR YOUNGER KIDS AND WORKING WITH SOME OF OUR YOUNGER KIDS TOO.

SO I'M LOOKING AT THOSE TYPE OF PROGRAMS, BUT I KNOW IT'S GONNA COST MONEY.

SO I'M TRYING TO WORK UP A BUDGET, AN INTERIM BUDGET TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE DO THIS AND HOW WE DO IT.

SMARTLY.

IF, IF YOU WERE IN CLOSING, IF YOU WERE TO SUMMARIZE YOUR TENURE, HAS THE CITY'S PARKS IMPROVED? I WOULD SAY, YES, IT'S IMPROVED TREMENDOUSLY BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE IN THE FOCUS.

UM, AND THERE'S BEEN FROM WHERE, WHEN I STEPPED ON BOARD, I WOULD SAY THERE'S BEEN INCREASED COMMUNICATION THERE.

UM, BECAUSE WE'RE HERE AND WE'RE TALKING, WE'RE HAVING THAT DIALOGUE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE COMMUNICATION FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL ME COMING BACK TO YOU ALL AS WELL.

I KNOW I SEND STUFF TO TONY TO SEND OUT, BUT SOMETHING FROM THE BODY WOULD BE GREAT.

WELL, I THINK THE BEST WAY WE CAN MOST ACCURATELY COMMUNICATE IS HERE AT THE DIAS WITH YOU AT THE PODIUM.

SO WE ALL KNOW WHAT EACH OTHER ARE SAYING AND THINKING AND IN THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING.

BUT AGAIN, I DO APPRECIATE YOU.

AND I'VE SAID THAT OUTSIDE OF HERE BEFORE, AND, UH, I'LL, I'LL CONTINUE TO SAY IT.

I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.

ANYTHING.

UM, THAT BRINGS UP ANOTHER POINT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT VOLUNTEERS, UM, WHEN SCHOOL IS IN, WE HAVE A LOT OF KIDS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE SO MANY COMMUNITY SERVICE PROJECTS.

MAYBE IN OUR MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL, WE COULD PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA ITEM AS AN AGENDA ITEM TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE WOULD OFFER, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE KIDS TO PART, TO PARTICIPATE IN DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT THE CITY IS PUTTING ON THAT WOULD HELP THEM AND HELP US.

AND

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MM-HMM YEAH, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE A FEW VOLUNTEERS.

UM, WE, WE HAD TWO THIS SUMMER, UM, FROM, FROM I THINK THEY WERE GOING TO WAYNE, BOTH OUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

UM, SO, BUT YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE COME OUT.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM BE MORE INVOLVED, UM, COME TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HAVE A, I DON'T KNOW, A YOUTH, A YOUTH PARKS COMMISSION, UM, TO COMMITTEE TO COME TOGETHER AND SAY, OKAY, LET'S DO THIS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, UM, SOMEONE BROUGHT UP THE GREAT IDEA OF DOING WELL, UM, ROTATING AROUND THE PARK, HAVING COMMUNITY DAYS AROUND THE PARK, YOU KNOW, UM, AND OR EVENTS LIKE, UM, WARD COMPETITIONS, YOU KNOW, A BIG COMMUNITY DAY AND IT'S AWARD COMPETITION, WARD FOUR AGAINST WARD TWO, OR WARD THREE OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, JUST DOING THAT, GETTING PEOPLE OUT TOGETHER, INSTEAD OF JUST WAITING FOR THE MIRACLE FESTIVAL OR THE 4TH OF JULY, JUST GETTING FOLKS TOGETHER TO KNOW EACH OTHER AND JUST HAVING SOMETHING OUT AT THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY PARK, UM, IT'S JUST A SMALL EVENT, YOU KNOW, INVITE PEOPLE TO COME OUT, BRING YOUR PICNIC TAPE, YOU KNOW, BRING YOUR PICNIC BLANKETS AND, AND WE'LL, WE'LL PROVIDE FOOD OR WE'LL HAVE FOOD TRUCKS THERE JUST COME OUT AND ENJOY THE WEATHER, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S MY GOAL DURING COVID WAS THAT, BUT THEN OTHER THINGS TRUMP THAT, SO, UM, SO I'M GONNA BRING THAT BACK, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT OUR PART TO MOVE.

SO YES.

WELL THANK YOU, VANCE THROUGH EVERYTHING I EVER GO TO.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE TIME YOU PUT IN.

UM, YES.

CAN I GET A HOLD OF, BETWEEN YOU OR TONY THAT LIST, BECAUSE THAT WAS PRIOR TO ME COMING ON.

SO I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THIS LIST.

YES, IT WAS THE 60 JULY.

SO, SO YES, I'M LIKE, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE LIST.

AND SO IF I COULD GET A HOLD OF THAT, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, ALSO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNEW, BUT THE MONEY THAT'S COMING IN ON THE OPIOID, I REALLY WOULD LIKE IT TO GO TO THE PARK AND REC TO BE CREATIVE WITH IT.

IT'S SERVING AT RISK.

I MEAN, WE HAVE TO APPROVE ON WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THAT, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SO MUCH AT RISK YOUTH THAT I THINK WE CAN UTILIZE MONEY TO HELP OUT SOME OF THOSE HOME SITUATIONS WITH SOME OF THESE CHILDREN.

AND I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE SO GOOD AT IT THAT I JUST THINK YOU WOULD BE GREAT TO KIND OF SPEARHEAD SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO, FOR US AS A CITY TO TAP INTO THE I'M GONNA GET IT WRONG.

BUT NANCY, I THINK, YOU KNOW THE NAME OF IT, THE CE OHIO GRANTS THOUGH, THEY'RE THERE, THEY HAVE GRANTS FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US TAP INTO THAT.

IT MIGHT NOT BE A LIE, BUT TAP INTO AND SAY, OKAY, WE'LL USE THIS MONEY HERE FOR THIS ACTIVITY OUT OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER OR AT, OR OVER HERE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US TAP INTO THAT.

AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT I CAN DO AS A VOLUNTEER OR DO I HAVE TO WORK WITH A CITY STAFF? AND, AND THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT I'M GONNA START HAVING, UH, THIS WEEK.

SO, BUT THANKS FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO DO THANK YOU, DON.

STATEMENT OF EMPOWERMENT AND COMMUNICATION WILL DEFINITELY BE THE WAY WE SAY THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR COMMISSION, UM, AND ALL THE COMMITTEES IN THE CITY.

THIS, WE SEE IT, EVERYTHING.

AND, UM, WE SEE YOUR PEERS AS WELL.

A LOT OF, UM, OUR COMMISSION MEMBERS ARE OUT THERE MAKING THINGS HAPPEN IN THE CITY.

UH, I WANT YOU TO KNOW IT DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED BY ANYONE ON COUNCIL AND WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE.

YOU, UM, YOU MADE A POINT THAT, UH, I THINK YOUR NUMBER ONE POINT HERE, AND THAT IS AS A COUNCIL, WE'RE ONLY A COUNCIL WHEN WE'RE SITTING UP HERE AS A BODY.

UM, MR. CAMPBELL, UH, REFERENCED THAT JUST A MOMENT AGO AS A COUNCIL OR A COUNCIL WHEN WE'RE UP HERE TOGETHER.

SO THAT GAP THAT I SEE IS THAT THERE ISN'T REALLY GOOD COMMUNICATION BETWEEN, UH, YOUR BOARD, UH, OR FOR THAT MATTER, ANY OTHER COMMISSION AND THIS BODY WHEN IT'S SITTING.

SO I WOULD SECOND WHAT, UH, COUNCILMAN CAMPBELL SAYING, AND THAT IS THAT WE NEED TO CLOSE THAT GAP.

WE NEED THAT COMMUNICATION TO BE FROM YOU TO US TO KEEP US UPDATED AND FROM US TO USE SO THAT WE CAN GIVE YOU THOSE EXPECTATIONS, UM, THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR PARKS AND REC.

UM, I THINK OUT OF ALL THE POINTS YOU MADE DENYING COMMUNICATION IS PROBABLY THE SINGLE BIGGEST, BECAUSE COMMUNICATION IS EMPOWERMENT TO YOU BECAUSE IF YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE WANTING AND WE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE WANTING, WE CAN EMPOWER YOU MORE EMPOWERED THAN JUST MAKING A BLANKET

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SO I REALLY THINK IF, IF WE CAN CLOSE THAT GAP, FIND A WAY FOR YOUR COMMISSION OR YOUR COMMITTEE TO GET YOUR IDEAS TO US, FOR US TO GET OUR EXPECTATIONS TO YOU AND BRIDGE THAT COMMUNICATIONS GAP.

WE'RE GONNA SEE A LOT OF THIS STUFF HAPPENING AGAIN.

I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH OFFENSE.

I THINK EVERY ONE OF US SEES YOU AT THE EVENTS HAS A CHANCE TO TALK TO YOU, BUT AGAIN, UNLESS WE'RE A COUNCIL BODY, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT.

WE CAN DO EXCEPT TO SHARE YOUR, UM, IDEAS AND FRUSTRATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT THEN ANOTHER MONTH GOES BY AND NOTHING'S HAPPENED.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN, BOUNCE.

SO I ALSO THINK THAT ONCE WE HAVE OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN IN PLACE, BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THESE ASSETS THAT ARE IN THE PARKS, ONCE THAT PLAN IS IN PLACE, AND WE KNOW THE PRIORITY LIST IS, IS A GREAT LIST, BUT SO MUCH OF THAT IS MAINTENANCE AS WELL, OR HAS BEEN.

I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA KIND OF WORK ON SPLITTING THOSE UP, BUT FROM A, FROM A MAINTENANCE LIST, BEING PART OF THE PRIORITY UNTIL THAT ASSET PLAN IS DONE, AND WE KNOW WHAT THE VALUES OF THOSE ARE.

AND THEN STAFF HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A PLAN, TO PUT A BUDGET TO THE PRIORITY LIST THROUGH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE, YOU WERE JUST KIND OF SHOOTING ERRORS IN THE DARK, RIGHT? SO THAT IS WHAT I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE AS PART OF THAT ASSET PLAN IS WHAT ARE ALL THE ASSETS WITHIN THE PARKS? AND THEN WE HAVE THE MAINTENANCE PLAN IS THE, OBVIOUSLY THE TAKING CARE OF WHAT WE GOT AND THEN THE PRIORITY LIST OF OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED BASED ON WHAT THE PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN, UH, WAS TO BEGIN WITH.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT THAT ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN IS.

SO WE CAN ACTUALLY APPROPRIATE MONEY TO THE PRIORITY LIST.

THAT'S MAINTAINING WHAT WE HAVE AND UNTIL WE KNOW THAT WE JUST DON'T.

I MEAN, WE'RE ALL JUST KIND OF, WE'RE ALL JUST KIND OF IN, IN, IN THE DARK, UH, THE LAST BIG BUDGET NUMBER OUTSIDE OF PROJECTS THAT I REMEMBER WAS WE APPROPRIATED AN EXTRA, AN ADDITIONAL $300,000 TO THE PARKS.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS IN 2018.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES.

SO WE BUDGETED $300,000 FOR THE PARKS BACK IN 2018.

AND I KNOW THAT WENT TO CUZ LOOK, I MEAN, A LOT OF THESE THINGS RUN OFF OF WHAT THE HOT TOPICS ARE RIGHT BACK THEN.

IT WAS ALL ADA PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

I REMEMBER THAT SPECIFICALLY, CUZ I REMEMBER THE LINE OF PEOPLE COMING TO THE PODIUM, UPSET THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH ADA PARK EQUIPMENT BACK THEN THAT MONEY WAS APPROPRIATE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

SO I, AND I THINK WE'VE SEEN THAT NOW A BIG PART OF IT.

WE HAVE THE, THE NEW EQUIPMENT AT CLOUD PARK, UH, THAT WAS A BIG, BIG PORTION OF THAT MONEY.

UH, THE NEW PLAYGROUND THERE AND THEN THE NEW PLAYGROUNDS AT, AT, UM, HERE AT THE EEL BERG THERE BY THE Y M C A.

SO, SO THOSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING, MONEY'S BEING APPROPRIATED.

UH, AND THAT WAS A PRIORITY FOR EVERYBODY BACK IN 2018 WITH THAT $300,000, I THINK THAT MONEY WAS, WAS WELL SPENT.

IT WAS NEEDED.

BUT NOW WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT WE HAVE IT'S AGE REPLACEMENT, COST MAINTENANCE COST, AND WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO APPROPRIATE SOME MONEY TO THOSE THINGS, TO HELP YOU WITH THE PRIORITY LIST OF THEN WHAT'S GETTING FIXED BECAUSE I'M, YOU KNOW, THE MAINTENANCE LIST.

I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GONE OUT.

ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'VE BEEN DOING IS DOING PARK INSPECTIONS.

YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A, A BIG PUSH THAT YOU MADE TO GO OUT AND HAVE THE, THE BOARD VISIT DIFFERENT PARKS ON DIFFERENT SATURDAY MORNINGS, THEN FIND, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THINGS BROKEN? WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED, WHAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, BUT UNTIL WE CAN ATTACH MONEY TO THE ACTUAL ASSET, THEN I, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE THE, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED AND I THINK BRIAN THAT'S COMING SOON.

CORRECT.

WE'RE UM, UH, THE ENGINEER IS INTERVIEWING, UH, FIRMS ON WEDNESDAY.

UM, I BELIEVE IT'S WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY THIS WEEK TO IDENTIFY WHAT FIRM MIGHT BE, UH, BEST TO HELP US PUT TOGETHER THIS PLAN.

SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO, TO MAKE PROGRESS ON THIS.

AND THEN ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I'LL BRING UP IS THE, UH, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT A VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR, UH, A FEW MEETINGS AGO.

SO I THINK WE, WE CAN'T KICK OUR FOOT OFF THE GAS ON THAT.

I THINK THAT'S JUST, SO IF WE TALK ABOUT EXTRA STAFF, WHATEVER THE CASE IS THERE, UH, A VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR THAT CAN, THAT CAN COME ON BOARD THAT CAN HELP WITH EACH ONE OF THOSE COMMISSIONS.

THAT'S ONE MORE AVENUE OF COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE A LOT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND OUR ONLY WE, WE EMPLOY THREE PEOPLE THAT'S MR. ROGERS AND MR. KOWSKI AND THEN OUR, THE ATTORNEY.

SO ALL OF OUR COMMUNICATION LEGALLY HAS TO GO THROUGH THAT CHANNEL.

AND JOSH KING IS BRIAN'S EMPLOYEE.

HE'S NOT OUR EMPLOYEE.

AND CHRIS IS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE Y M C A, HE'S A LIAISON HERE.

AND I, AND AGAIN, I'LL, SO WHAT MARKS, I'M GLAD THAT, THAT, THAT THOSE RELATIONSHIPS ARE, ARE GOOD AND THOSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING, BUT LIKE EVERYTHING, WE JUST HAVE TO FIND WHERE THE COGS IN THE WHEEL ARE AT AND WE GOTTA GET 'EM, WE GOTTA GET 'EM REMOVED.

UH, AND, AND, AND I, I

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SUPPORT THAT.

I THINK LIKE EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL DOES.

HI, MR. KING.

UM, I'M GONNA PIGGYBACK ON SOME OF WHAT THE OTHERS SAID, BUT ALSO, UM, WHEN YOU COME BACK, COULD YOU POSSIBLY MAKE SURE THAT YOU TELL US HOW MUCH YOU HAD BUDGETED AND WHERE THE MONEY WENT TO LIKE THIS FESTIVAL, THIS MOVIE, THIS FE, UM, CONCERT.

UM, AND THEN ALSO, I THINK WE PROBABLY DO NEED TO LOOK INTO A SCHEDULING FOR THE DIFFERENT SHELTERS AND THAT WAY THEY, LIKE, WHEN YOU PULL UP, OH, I WANNA USE THIS FOR MY BIRTHDAY.

MM-HMM AND THIS ONE'S BOOKED, BUT MAYBE I CAN, MAYBE IT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY SUGGEST GOING TO THIS ONE THAT WOULD HOUSE THIS MANY PEOPLE AND HAS THIS MANY PARKING SPACES AND BATHROOMS. LIKE, I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE YES.

SOMETHING ON THE LIST TOO.

I'LL WE ENGAGED FOR THAT CONVERSATION WITH CHRIS AND HIS STAFF.

UM, OKAY.

BECAUSE THE TWO SYSTEMS DON'T TALK, SO, UM, LET'S GET A SYSTEM THAT DOES, SO, SO WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW TO TRANSFER OVER TO A, UM, CIVIC PLUS OKAY.

TO, TO THE, TO OUR APP.

SO YEAH.

SO WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE THAT OUT.

AND THEN, SO WHEN YOU COME BACK, COULD YOU TELL US HOW MANY PEOPLE ATTENDED THIS EVENT AND HOW MUCH THIS EVENT COSTED? SO THERE'S A RATIO OF HOW SUCCESSFUL IT WAS AS TO HOW MANY PEOPLE CAME AND HOW MUCH MONEY WE SPENT.

IT WOULD BE.

IT WOULD GIVE US A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT'S SERVING THE COMMUNITY BEST WITH THESE TAX DOLLARS.

AND, UM, THE OTHER THING WAS, I KNOW OF A VOLUNTEER.

I HEARD SATURDAY AT THE MARIGO FESTIVAL, YOUNG MARINES.

THEY HAVE TO DO VOLUNTEER HOURS.

AND ALSO, I THINK MOST OF THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE EIGHTH GRADERS WOULD STAY IN PETERS DO.

AND THEN I ALSO HAVE A GIRL SCOUT TROOP THAT REACH OUT TO ME AND THEY'RE LIKE TO VOLUNTEER, SO I'LL GET THAT TO YOU.

UM, THE SHELTERS, HOW MANY PEOPLE? OKAY.

I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, ANYONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON ANY SPECIFIC AGENDA? NO, SIR.

NUMBER NINE, SAME MANAGER REPORT, RIGHT? UH, YES SIR.

[9. City Manager Report]

A COUPLE OF ITEMS FOR COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY TONIGHT.

UH, I JUST WOULD LIKE, UH, TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE FINAL NIGHT, UH, OF THE SUMMER MOVIE SERIES IS COMING UP THIS FRIDAY, UH, FROM SEVEN TO 11 AT THE IKE, UH, THE MOVIE WILL BE BALL PATROL, UH, AND, UH, THEY, UH, SO WE HAVE THAT, UH, ADDITIONALLY, A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS FOR, UH, COUNCIL IN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, IF YOU DRIVE, UH, TROY PIKE AT ALL, UH, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UH, O DOT HAS BEGUN DOING, UH, BASE REPAIRS, UH, BETWEEN THE SOUTHERN CITY LIMIT AND FISHBURG ROAD.

THIS IS AN ANTICIPATION OF THE ACTUAL RESURFACING, UH, AND THAT ENTIRE PROJECT IS, UH, TO BE COMPLETE IN THE NEXT THREE WEEKS.

UH, SPEAKING OF PROJECTS, UH, WE ARE RECEIVING BIDS FOR THE DEMOLITION OF DOG TOWN THIS FRIDAY.

UH, AND WE ARE ALSO RECEIVING BIDS THIS FRIDAY FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE NEW BUS SHELTERS.

UH, TWO OF WHICH WILL BE, UH, GOING IN ON BRENT PIKE ACROSS FROM, UH, AND IN FRONT OF THE NEW LIBRARY.

UH, JUST WANNA MAKE COUNCIL AWARE ON ONE OTHER ITEM, UH, THAT, UH, THIS WEEKEND STARTS, UH, MY PROFESSION'S ANNUAL CONFERENCE.

UH, SO MYSELF AND, UH, SEVERAL HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS OF MANAGERS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD WILL BE CONVENING ON COLUMBUS, OHIO.

SO I WILL BE OUT OF THE OFFICE FROM, UH, SATURDAY MORNING THROUGH, UH, WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.

UH, AND IN MY ABSENCE, UH, KATIE NICELY, THE HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR WILL BE SERVING AS, UH, ACTING CITY MANAGER IN MY ABSENCE.

BUT, UH, BEYOND THAT, SIR, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT YOU OR COUNSEL MAY HAVE.

THANKS.

BRIAN.

ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING FOR BRIAN THIS EVENING BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? YES.

YEP.

UH, BRIAN, UM, YOU SENT ME AN EMAIL SEPTEMBER 6TH, CONCERNING TWO ISSUES ON THE ROADS IN, UH, WARD ONE.

AND YOU SAID IT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE STAFF MEETING THAT MORNING.

UH, I DID NOT FOLLOW UP WITH YOU, UM, ON THAT, UH, THIS IS A, JUST TO REMIND YOU QUAIL RIDGE, I'LL GET TO THE DETAILS CUZ I KNOW YOUR, YOUR MIND'S SPINNING.

SO QUAIL RIDGE AND CHAMBERSBURG ROAD, UH, THE ASPHALT AND THEN THERE WAS A, AND THAT WAS ONE THAT'D BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE.

AND THEN THE ONE AT 48, 21 CHAMBERSBURG.

UM, LIKE I SAID, I DID NOT FOLLOW UP WITH YOU, UH, FROM THE EMAIL YOU SENT ME ON SEPTEMBER 6TH.

UM, WAS THERE ANY ACTION TAKEN BY STAFF, AN ASSESSMENT TO SEE IF THAT WAS WHAT WAS REPORTED TO ME WAS ACCURATE? UH, I JUST SIMPLY ASKED THAT, UH, THE, UH, THE PUBLIC WORKS MANAGER, UM, REVIEW THOSE CONCERNS AND FOLLOW UP WITH THEM APPROPRIATELY.

SO I CAN GET A STATUS REPORT, UH, AT STAFF MEETING TOMORROW TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT, UM, THIS WORK THAT'S BEEN SCHEDULED IN THE NEAR FUTURE OR WHAT THE, THE OUTCOME OF, UH, OF MR. GRACE'S REVIEW WAS.

HE'S, HE JUST HIT ME UP ON SATURDAY AND I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP WITH HIM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND, UM, UH, YEAH, I WOULD APPRECIATE, UH, THAT UPDATE AS WELL AS I'M SURE MR. SHAW WOULD.

SURE.

UM, BECAUSE I'VE GOT THE GUY, THE GENTLEMAN THAT BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION IS, UH, VERY UNHAPPY AND I'VE BEEN ASKING HIM TO, YOU KNOW, BE PATIENT AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

AND, UH, SO

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SO, UH, BEFORE HE SHOWS UP ON AT THE, UH, COUNCIL MEETING, I I'D JUST LIKE TO GET THAT STATUS UPDATE.

THANK YOU, BRIAN.

WELL, WE'LL LOOK INTO IT, SIR.

OKAY, ADAM, NUMBER 10, TONY PENDING BUSINESS ITEM 10, A AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A RE RESIGNING FROM AGRICULTURAL A TO PLANNED INDUSTRIAL PI AND A LOT SPLIT FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 94 16 TAYLORSVILLE ROAD.

THANKS ED.

ANYTHING IS ANYTHING ELSE?

[ An Ordinance To Approve A Rezoning From Agricultural (A) To Planned Industrial (PI) And A Lot Split For The Property Located At 9416 Taylorsville Road And Further Identified As Parcel Number P70 03902 0018 On The Montgomery County Auditor’s Map And To Not Accept The Recommendation Of The Planning Commission (Case RZ 22-17). (third reading)]

FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL NUMBER P 7 0 0 3 9 0 2 0 0 1 8 ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY AUDITORS MAP.

AND DO NOT ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN CASE RZ 22 DASH 17 AT THIRD READING.

THANKS TONY.

UH, BRAD.

UH, YES, SIR.

UH, AND FOLLOW UP TO, UH, THE WORK SESSION, THE DISCUSSION, UH, AT THAT TIME.

AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT COUNCIL, UH, POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL JANUARY 9TH, UH, TO AN ENABLE STAFF TO PREPARE A, UM, AN APPROPRIATE ZONING AMENDMENT, UH, TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE IN A MORE PERMANENT CAPACITY.

THANKS, BRIAN.

AND THE WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPT A MOTION THIS EVENING, POSTPONING ACTION, UH, ON ITEM TODAY, TWO OH FOURTH READING, WHICH WOULD BE, UH, AT THE JANUARY 9TH, 2023 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

AND THEN I WOULD ALSO JUST NOTE THAT, UH, I BELIEVE THIS ITEM WAS ALSO GONNA BE AT THE NEXT, WAS IT AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION THAT AARON WAS GONNA HAVE THE REPORT? YEAH, I ALREADY HAVE ON THE DRAFT LIST FOR THE 20TH OF SO, OKAY.

SO WE WILL HEAR, UM, INFORMATION FROM AARON, UH, OUR PLANNER ON FURTHER INFORMATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

UH, SO RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT MOTION TO POSTPONE.

IS THERE A MOTION? OKAY.

MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE, PLEASE.

IS THERE A SECOND? UH, ANITA, A SECOND, HAVE A, A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT A MOTION TO POSTPONE ACTION UNTIL JANUARY 9TH, 2023.

ANY DISCUSSION TONY MR. CAMPBELL? YES.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

[ A Motion To Appoint Paul Schaeffer To The Board Of Zoning Appeals For A Term Ending January 31, 2024.]

NEXT UP IS NEW BUSINESS ITEM, NUMBER 11, ITEM 11, A MOTION TO APPOINT PAUL SCHAEFFER TO THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS FOR A TERMINATING JANUARY 31ST, 2024, TONY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, UH, JUST AT THE, UH, HR BACKGROUND CHECK WAS COMPLETED AND IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORK SESSION TO MAKE THIS APPOINTMENT.

AND WHAT ASKED FOR COUNSEL'S ACTION ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT? AND YES, IT WAS.

IS THERE A MOTION NANCY? YES.

MOVE TO APPOINTING.

I HAVE A MOTIONS FOR A SECOND.

ED.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.

TONY MRS. BURGE.

AND NEXT UP IS ITEM 11, B ITEM 11 B AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO TO PROVIDE AMENDMENTS TO CERTAIN SECTIONS OF THE TRAFFIC CODE AND TO CERTAIN SECTIONS OF THE GENERAL OFFENSES CODE TO PROVIDE FOR CODIFICATION TO PROVIDE FOR SEVERAL ABILITY AND TO REPEAL CONFLICTING ORDINANCES AT THE FIRST TRAINING, TONY, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

MR. OTTO IS NOT HERE.

MOTION ALSO CARRIES A SEVEN TO ZERO.

[ An Ordinance To Amend The Codified Ordinances Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio To Provide Amendments To Certain Sections Of The Traffic Code And To Certain Sections Of The General Offenses Code; To Provide For Codification; To Provide For Severability; And To Repeal Conflicting Ordinances. (first reading)]

UH, AS I MENTIONED AT THE WORK SESSION, THIS IS JUST A ROUTINE ITEM THAT EACH YEAR, UH, WE TAKE ITEMS, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED OR ADOPTED IN THE OHIO REVISED CODE THAT HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE HUBER HEIGHTS, CODIFIED ORDINANCES, AND BRING THOSE PROVISIONS INTO THE CODE THROUGH CODIFICATION.

UM, THIS HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE LAW DIRECTOR AND OUR MUNI CODE, OUR CODIFICATION PROVIDER.

AND, UH, THIS ITEM CAN GO TO A SECOND READING WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS THE PASS ITEM TO A SECOND READING.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT? OKAY, WE'LL SEE THIS AGAIN.

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract For Wastewater Collection And Treatment Services With The City Of Fairborn. (first reading)]

THE NEXT STEP IS ITEM 11 C UNDER OUR ADMINISTRATION ITEM 11 C A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR WASTEWATER COLLECTION AND TREATMENT SERVICES WITH THE CITY OF FAIRBORNE AT THE FIRST READING BRIAN ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

UH, YES, SIR.

UH, JUST THAT, UH, THIS, UH, THIS ITEM IS IN FOLLOW UP TO, UH, EXTENSIVE, UH, BRIEFINGS THAT WE'VE PROVIDED TO COUNCIL, UH, AND THAT THE CITY OF FAIRBORNE IS PLANNING TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS ITEM DURING THEIR, UH, MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 19TH.

UH, IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION AT THE WORK SESSION THAT THIS ITEM BE ADOPTED.

YES, IT WAS.

IS THERE A MOTION MARK MOTION TO ADOPT NANCY? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? TONY? MR. LYONS? YES.

SOLUTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO IN

[ A Resolution To Increase The Not To Exceed Amount For The Purchase Of Firefighting Protective Equipment And Clothing With Phoenix Safety Outfitters For Calendar Year 2022 And Waiving The Competitive Bidding Requirements. (first reading)]

EXCESS ITEM 11 D ITEM 11 D A RESOLUTION TO INCREASE THE, NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT FOR THE PURCHASE OF FIREFIGHTING, PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT AND CLOTHING WITH PHOENIX SAFETY OUTFITTERS FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2022, AND WAVING THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS OF THE FIRST STREAM.

BRIAN, UH, THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, THIS RESOLUTION IS BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION TO ALLOW US TO ENSURE OUR NEW PERSONNEL OR PROPERLY OUTFITTED, UM, WHEN THEY ARRIVE, UH, IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE WORK SESSION THAT THIS ITEM

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BE ADOPTED.

CERTAINLY.

WAS THERE A MOTION RICHARD MOTION TO ADOPT SECOND ANITA, SECOND OF A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? TONY MRS. KITCHEN.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

AND

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Solicit, Advertise And Receive Bids From Qualified Firms For The Construction Of The Mardi Gras Drive Area Water Main Replacement Project. (first reading)]

NEXT IS UP.

NEXT UP IS ITEM 11 E ITEM 11 E A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SOLICIT, ADVERTISE AND RECEIVE BIDS FROM QUALIFIED FIRMS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, THE MARDI GARAGE DRIVE AREA WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECT AT THE FIRST READING.

UH, THANK YOU, SIR.

AS WAS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED WITH COUNSEL, UH, THIS ITEM IS ASSOCIATED WITH AN ISSUE TWO GRANT, UH, AND THIS MATTER IS FOR THE SOLICITATION ADVERTISEMENT IN RECEIPT OF BIDS ONLY.

IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION AT THE WORK SESSION THAT THIS ITEM, UH, BE ADOPTED THIS EVENING, SIR.

A MOTION DON.

SO MOVE SIR.

A SECOND MARK.

SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION TONY? MR. WEBB? YES.

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Solicit Requests For Proposals (RFP) From Qualified Engineering Consulting Firms To Provide Engineering Design For The 2023 Water Main Replacement Project. (first reading)]

TO ZERO.

AND NEXT IS ITEM 11 F ITEM 11 F A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SOLICIT REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS, RFP FROM QUALIFIED ENGINEERING CONSULTING FIRMS TO PROVIDE ENGINEERING DESIGN FOR THE 2023 WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECT AT THE FIRST THREE.

ONCE AGAIN, BRIAN.

AND LASTLY, ITEM 11, H ITEM 11 H RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AWARD A CONTRACT FOR SERVICES RELATED TO PROVIDING REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT OF ROADWAY GUARDRAIL AT THE FIRST THREE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, THIS ITEM IS BROUGHT FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THE APPROPRIATE DESIGNS IN PLACE SO THAT WE CAN EXPEDITE WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT IN 2023.

UH, IT WAS RECOMMENDED AT THE WORK SESSION THAT THIS ITEM BE ADOPTED THIS EVENING.

IS THERE A MOTION MARK MOTION TO ADOPT PER SECOND? ANITA.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION ON A SECOND DISCUSSION.

[ An Ordinance Amending Section 922.27 Of The Codified Ordinances Of Huber Heights By Increasing The Monthly And/Or Annual Stormwater Sewer Rate Beginning November 1, 2022. (first reading)]

TO ZERO.

AND NEXT SAYS ITEM 11, G ITEM 11 G IN ORDINANCE SUBMITTING SECTION 9, 2 2 0.27 OF THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES OF HUBER HEIGHTS BY INCREASING THE MONTHLY AND OR ANNUAL STORM WATER SEWER RATE BEGINNING NOVEMBER 1ST, 2022 WITH THE FIRST RATE, BRIAN, UH, THANK YOU, SIR.

THIS ITEM, UH, IS TO ADDRESS FOR THE, UM, INFLATIONARY ESCALATION OF THE, UH, STORMWATER FEE OVER TIME.

AND IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION AT THE WORK SESSION THAT THIS IT BE PASSED TO A SECOND READING.

ANY OBJECTION TO MOVING THIS ON TO A SECOND READING? OKAY.

SAME DONE.

THAT'S WHERE WE'LL SEE.

[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Award A Contract For Services Related To Providing Repair And Replacement Of Roadway Guardrail. (first reading)]

RIGHT? UH, THANK YOU, SIR.

AS A REMINDER TO COUNSEL, THIS PARTICULAR LEGISLATION IS BROUGHT FORWARD AT THE REQUEST OF PUBLIC WORKS MANAGER, GRAY TO ADDRESS NUMEROUS DAMAGED GUARDRAIL THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE WORK SESSION THAT THIS ITEM BE ADOPTED TONIGHT.

THERE A MOTION DONE.

I WILL MOVE FOR A SECOND.

AITA.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION TONY MS. BAKER? YES.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

NEXT UP IS ITEM 12 CITY OFFICIAL REPORTS AND COMMENTS MAYOR.