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[ AGENDA CITY PLANNING COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road August 9, 2022 6:00 P.M. ]
I STARTED CALLED A MEETING OF THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL, MR. JEFFRIES, MISS OP HERE, MS. THOMAS HERE, MS. VARGA, MR. WALTON HERE, I HAVE NO OPENING REMARKS.IS ANYONE ELSE ON THE DYES AND HEARING NONE? WE'LL MOVE ON TO OPENING REMARKS BY CITIZENS COMMENTS.
THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR ANY CITIZENS COMMENT, NOT PERTAINING TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AND HEARING NONE.
WE'LL MOVE ON WITH SWEARING A WITNESSES.
I ANNOUNCED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RULES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ANYONE WHO MAY WISH TO SPEAK OR GIVE TESTIMONY REGARDING THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING AND NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN.
I JUST GET EVERYONE TO STAND, RAISE THEIR RIGHT HAND AND RESPOND.
UH, DO YOU HEREBY SWEAR OR AFFIRM ON THE THREAT OF PERJURY TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD, PLEASE BE SEATED.
I ASK ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK TONIGHT WHEN THEY STEPPED TO THE PODIUM OR SIGNING ON THE SIGNING SHEET PROVIDED AND, UH, GIVE US YOUR NAME.
ONLY, ONLY WE HAVE NO PENDING BUSINESS.
OUR FIRST ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS IS A MINOR CHANGE.
THE APPLICANT MCBRIDE DALE CLARION IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A MINOR CHANGE FOR A YEAR LONG OUTDOOR SALES AT THE KROGER STORE AND FUEL CENTER.
THIS ITEM HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
YEAH, THE APPLICANT HAS NOTIFIED US THIS MORNING THAT THEY ARE, THEY WISH TO WITHDRAW THIS APPLICATION.
UH, NEXT ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS AS LOT SPLITS THE APPLICANT, LUIS RANCHO AND ASSOCIATES INC IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO REPLAT ONE 19.1 TO 900 ACRE, LOT INTO FOUR EXISTING LOTS.
WE'RE TOLD HER ACREAGE BETWEEN 19.91 AND 10.78 ACRES PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT SEVEN 60 BEL FONTANE ROAD, S 22 DASH 32.
UH, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO YOU'VE SEEN THIS SITE BEFORE, UH, IS 19.1, TWO ACRES ZONED AGRICULTURAL.
UH, THIS WAS THE SUBJECT OF A REZONING REQUEST EARLY THIS YEAR FOR A PAINTBALL FACILITY.
UH, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE, UH, ARE PURCHASING THIS PROPERTY AND WOULD LIKE TO REPLAT OR SPLIT THE LOTS FROM ONE LOT INTO A ESSENTIALLY FIVE LOFT OR FOUR LOTS CAN BE COMBINING WITH OUR EXISTING ACREAGE.
THIS IS THE, UH, THE SITE TO THE NORTH BELL FOUNTAIN THIS TO THE WEST I 70 IS TO THE NORTH.
UH, THESE ARE THE FOUR PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED HERE THAT, UH, ARE THE SUBJECT OF THE REPLAT.
HERE IS THE, UH, THE FLAT, UH, BASICALLY THE WESTERN MOST, UH, PROPERTY OWNER, UH, WILL TAKE THE MAJORITY OF THE EXISTING LOT.
THE REST ESSENTIALLY, UH, EXPAND THEIR PROPERTY LINES TO THE NORTH, TO THE, UH,
THE REASON IT'S IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, AND NOT A MINOR LOT SPLIT IS WE ARE REQUIRING DEDICATION OR RIGHT AWAY ALONG, UH, TAYLORSVILLE ROAD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
UH, SO THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE DEDICATING APPROXIMATELY 35 FEET, UM, TO MAKE THE EVENTUALLY THE ENTIRE, UH, RIGHT AWAY, UH, OVER TIME, 70 FEET WIDE.
SO, UH, THE PROPOSAL, UH, MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, UH, AND THEY ARE EXEMPT, LIKE I SAID, UH, DEDICATING THAT RIGHT AWAY, UM, AS CONSISTENT WITH THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
UM, WE BELIEVE THAT THE, UH, THE APPROVAL OF THE, UM, OF THE REPLAT, UM, WHAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REPLANT, UH, FOR THE, FROM THE ONE LOT INTO THE, UH, INTO THE FOUR.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU, SIR.
WELL, BRING IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.
IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT? MY NAME'S LEWIS RANCHO AND I'M THE SURVEYOR OF THIS, UH, THIS LAW SPLIT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CORNERS CAME OVER TO ME AND ONE OF THE TWO EXTENDED ON OUT TO THE INTERSTATE, LIKE HE INDICATED.
AND, UH, ONCE WE DO THE LAW SPLITS, THEN WE DO THE COMBINATION, WHICH, YOU KNOW, MAKES HIM AN ENTIRE LOT.
INSTEAD OF HAVING TWO PIECES, IT'LL BE ONE PIECE PER OWNER.
AND THEN THE ONE OWNER TO THE, UH, TO THE WEST IS GOING TO HAVE FRONTAGE ON, UH, ON BELL FOUNTAIN ROAD.
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PIECE OF THE PIE FOR THE APPLICANT.I THINK THIS IS REALLY A WIN-WIN SITUATION FOR THE OWNERS AND THE BUYERS.
AND I COMPLIMENT YOU FOR WORKING THIS OUT.
YEAH, IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA MAKE IT REALLY NICE FOR ALL THE OWNERS THERE AND IT MAKES IT REALLY NICE FOR THAT PROPERTY.
DID YOU SIGN IN? OH, THAT'S FINE.
AND SHEET, IT'S A SECRET SIGN IN SHEET.
THE SECRET SIDE OF THE SHEET IS CORRECT, BUT I KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON, ON ITS OWN IN CASE? OKAY.
IS THERE A MOTION, UH, BY THE, OR FOR THE APPLICANT LAURICE RANCH, ARROW AND ASSOCIATES INC.
REQUESTING APPROVAL TO REPLAT ONE 19.1 TO 900 ACRES, LOT INTO A FOUR EXISTING LOTS WITH TOTAL ACREAGE BETWEEN 19.94 AND 10.78 ACRES PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 78 60 BEL FONTAINE ROAD CASE LS 22 DASH 32 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF'S MEMORANDUM DATED AUGUST 3RD, 2022, THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION RECORD ATTACHED THERE TO MOVE BY MR. JEFFREY SECOND BY MS. THOMAS SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
MS. THOMAS, MR. JEFFRIES, MR. WALDEN, YES.
WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE APPLICANT? THE APPLICANT WILL SUBMIT THE, UH, THE, UM, THE, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE UPDATED, IF ANY UPDATED DRAWINGS OR LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS, UH, TO US AND, UH, ALONG WITH THE UPDATED MYLARS.
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE APPLICANT APP ARCHITECTURE IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO CREATE A FREESTANDING EMERGENCY AND URGENT CARE CENTER.
PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 76, 11 OLD TROY PIKE, DDP 22 DASH 29.
MR.
SO THIS IS, UM, THE HUMAN RIGHTS MEDICAL CENTER THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, UH, DOWN THE STREET AT, UH, ON OLD TROY PIKE.
THE SITE IS A 1.1 ACRES, UH, WHICH IS NOW WELL, IS BEING REZONED, UH, TO PLAN AN OFFICE.
UH, THE EXISTING LAND IS RETAIL AND SOME MARGINAL PARKING OR OUTDOOR, UH, DISPLAY, UH, IN THE RURAL KING PARKING LOT.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO BUILD A, UH, JUST SHY OF 11,000 SQUARE FOOT EMERGENCY, UH, OUTPATIENT MEDICAL FACILITY, THE REZONING AND BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS BO JOAN AND APPROVED BY COUNCIL LAST NIGHT.
AND SO WE'RE HERE, UM, TO APPROVE THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
SO THE APPLICANT CAN CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE SITE HERE AT THE CORNER OF, UH, MOSTLY THE CORNER OF OLD TROY PIKE AND TAYLORSVILLE.
UM, THIS IS THE, UH, THE RURAL KING PARKING LOT TECHNOLOGIES.
THIS IS THE APPROVED BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UH, THE SITE HAS GONE THROUGH A NUMBER OF ITERATIONS, UM, BUT HAS, UH, LANDED ON THIS CONFIGURATION, WHICH ADDRESSES MOST OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ALSO, UH, CITY COUNCIL REGARDING, UH, ACCESS ONTO TAYLORSVILLE.
SO THE ACCESS POINTS WILL BE, UH, TWO ACCESS POINTS TO NORTH IN THE, UH, OFF THE, UH, EXISTING PARKING LOT DRIVE ISLES, UH, AND THEN THE, TO THE SOUTH OR WEST THE EXISTING, UH, DRIVE MOUTH INTO, UH, THE RURAL KING PARKING LOT, UM, WHICH WILL PROVIDE ACCESS, UH, EASTERLY INTO THE SITE.
THE, UH, THE SITE, AS YOU KNOW, HAS, HAS MOVED A LITTLE BIT OVER, UM, OVER THE ITERATIONS.
THERE'S A LARGE, UH, SEWER EASEMENT
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THAT, UH, CUTS NORTH SOUTH, WHICH NECESSITATED THE BUILDING SHIFTING SLIGHTLY WEST.UM, THE APPLICANT SUBSEQUENTLY HAS AGREED TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL LAND.
SO THE, THE SITE ALSO GOT SLIGHTLY LARGER.
UM, THERE WERE SEVEN CONDITIONS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION PLACED ON THEIR, UM, THEIR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, UM, WHICH INCLUDED STREET TREES ALONG TAYLORSVILLE, UH, AND THEY BASICALLY CONFORMANCE TO THE ZONING CODE FOR SCREENING OF SERVICE STRUCTURES, LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING.
UM, THE SIGNAGE WAS A DISCUSSION AS FAR AS THE GROUND SIGN, MAKING SURE THAT IT DID NOT EXCEED SIX, UH, SIX FEET TALL, UM, AND THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD COMPLY WITH THE FIRE REGULATIONS.
THE CITY COUNCIL ADDED A EIGHTH CONDITION OF APPROVAL, UM, LAST NIGHT, UH, WHICH WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE A D UM, DEMONSTRATION OF UNRESTRICTED, PERMANENT EGRESS AND INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, ALONG THAT, THAT PROPERTY.
SO HERE'S THE SITE PLAN FOR THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN? UM, THERE IS SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING, UH, AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE.
UM, THERE IS THE TREE, THE STREET TREES ALONG, UH, OLD TROY PIKE, UH, ARE ACTUALLY ABOUT 25 FEET ON CENTER GIVE OR TAKE, UM, SIGNIFICANTLY CLOSER THAN WHAT THE CODE REQUIRES.
UM, SIGNIFICANT BUFFERING, UM, FROM THE EXISTING PARKING AND DRIVE ISLES BOTH TO THE NORTH AND, UH, TO THE WEST.
UH, THE SERVICE STRUCTURE OF THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE IS LANDSCAPED THAT MOST OF THE UTILITIES OR OTHER MECHANICALS ARE ROOFTOP MOUNTED AND ARE SCREENED AS WELL.
UH, THESE ARE JUST TWO OF THE MAJOR ELEVATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MOST, I WOULD SAY, PUBLICLY PROMINENT.
UM, THIS IS THE SOUTHERN, UH, L UH, ELEVATION, WHICH IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM, UH, TAYLORSVILLE.
UM, AND THEN THIS IS THE WEST ELEVATION.
SO YOU WOULD SEE THIS TRAVELING EASTBOUND ON TAYLORSVILLE AS YOU HEAD TOWARDS, UH, OLD TROY PIKE.
UM, SO AS FAR AS CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING REGULATIONS, UM, THE APPLICANTS INDICATED THAT THEY WILL, UM, I, MY HEAD AND MY PRESENTATION.
SO, UH, AS FAR AS STREET TREES, UM, THEY, THEIR CODE REQUIRES THAT THEY BE EVERY 40 FOOT ON CENTER.
UH, THE, UM, THEY ARE PLACED ABOUT EVERY 25 FEET ON CENTER.
UH, THE BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UM, CALLED FOR COMPLIANCE WITH SCREENING OF SERVICE STRUCTURES, THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN DOES INDICATE THAT THE DUMPSTER AND A SERVE THE DUMPSTER IS SCREENED.
AND MOST OF THE MECHANICALS, UM, ARE A ROOFTOP MOUNTED.
UM, AS FAR AS LIGHTING STANDARDS, THE, UH, PHOTOMETRIC PLANS THAT WERE INCLUDED, UH, ILLUSTRATES THAT THE LIGHT LIGHT TRESPASS IS MINIMAL AND MEETS THE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
AS FAR AS THE LIGHT TRESPASS INTO THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY, THERE IS SLIGHT, UH, LIGHT TRESPASS TO THE WEST, BUT IT'S INTO THE PARKING LOTS, AND THOSE ARE ILLUMINATED AS WELL.
UM, THE PARTS THAT MATTER, UH, ARE FULLY CODE COMPLIANT, UM, LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING COMPLIANCE.
UM, THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHOWS EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING, UH, BOTH IN THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE, AS WELL AS ALONG THE BUILDING.
UM, SO HERE, THE BUILDING SITE PLAN IS HARD TO SEE HERE, BUT THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE FRONT, UM, WHICH HAS, UH, SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPING ALONG THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
AND THEN, UH, AS YOU SAW IN THE PLANS, SIGNIFICANT, UH, PLANTING, UH, PLANT MATERIAL ALONG THE PERIMETER TO REALLY BREAK UP THE SITE AND, UH, AND HAVE IT STAND OUT FROM, UH, IT'S, UH, JASON PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST, AS FAR AS SIGNAGE.
UM, THE REQUIREMENT WAS THAT THE, UH, APPLICANT SUBMIT A SIGNED PACKAGE THAT WAS SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS SUBMITTED ON THE APRIL 12TH MEETING, WHICH INCLUDED, UH, SOME EMERGENCY SIGNAGE AS WELL AS THREE, UH, CORPORATE BRANDINGS.
AND THEN, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS, UM, PRETTY CLEAR THAT THE, THE GROUND MOUNTED SITE SHOULD NOT EXCEED SIX FEET IN HEIGHT, WHICH IS THE, UH, COAT.
SO THE SIGN PACKAGE THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED, UM, UH, COMPLIES WITH ALL OF THIS, UH, INCLUDING THE GROUND MOUNTED SIGN, WHICH HAS MOVED FROM THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE TO, UH, TO THE WEST.
UM, SO THERE ARE, UM, CORPORATE BRANDING ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF THE SITE OR ON THE BUILDING, AND THEN, UH, EMERGENCY DESIGNATIONS ON THE, UH, THE NORTH SOUTH.
AND I BELIEVE THE, UM, THE WEST
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AS WELL.UM, SO HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS WITH, UH, WITH THE SIGNAGE AS IT'S CONCEIVED, UH, AND WILL LARGELY BE THE SAME IF, UH, THIS, IF THE APPLICANT DEVIATES FROM THE, THESE BASIC PARAMETERS, UM, THEY'LL NEED TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT OTHERWISE, UM, WE'LL ISSUE SIGNED PERMITS BASED OFF OF, UH, WHAT IS APPROVED TODAY, THE, UH, EIGHTH CONDITION THAT WAS IMPOSED LAST NIGHT, UM, BY, UM, CITY COUNCIL WAS BASICALLY UNRESTRICTED, INGRESS AND EGRESS ALONG THE TAYLORSVILLE, UH, WELL REALLY TO THE ENTIRE SITE.
SO, UH, AT CLOSING, UH, WE'RE ALL KING WE'LL RECORD, A COVENANT GRANTING BLANKET, UH, ACROSS A VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO ALL THE DRIVE ISLES AND REGULAR ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY, WHICH WILL REMAIN, UH, UNOBSTRUCTED.
SO THAT WILL OCCUR WHEN THE PROPERTY SALE OCCURS AND THAT COVENANT WOULD BE, UM, RECORDED AT THE TIME.
AT THAT TIME, AS FAR AS PARKING AND LOADING, UH, THE, THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN MEETS THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, UH, BASED ON THE PROGRAM, INTERIOR PROGRAMMING, 45 SPACES ARE REQUIRED.
UH, 50 SPACES ARE ILLUSTRATED.
UM, SO AS FAR AS THE ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATION STAFF FEELS THAT THE, UM, APPROVAL OUTLINED IN 11 71 0 9 CAN BE MET, UH, AND WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH TWO CONDITIONS THAT THE APPLICANT COMPLIES WITH ALL FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH THEY HAVE INDICATED THEY WILL.
UH, AND THEN THE, UM, THE LAST CONDITION WOULD BE THAT THE, UH, THE, THE COVENANT OR THE DECLARATION IS ACTUALLY RECORDED AT CLOSING.
ARE THERE QUESTIONS TO ME, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, MISS FARGO? UM, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE SIGNS, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY DIRECTIONS OF THOSE SMALLER DIRECTIONAL BROWN SIGNS THEY WILL HAVE? UM, THERE WERE NONE THAT WERE INDICATED IN THE SITE PLAN.
AND THEREFORE NONE ARE ALLOWED IS THAT NO.
UM, IF, IF THEY WERE TO, UM, CO UH, SUBSEQUENTLY COME BACK FOR DIRECTIONAL SIGNS THAT MEET THE, UH, THE SIGN CODE, WHICH IS I THINK UP THE FOOT, AND I THINK IT'S ONE FOOT, UH, OR ONE AND A HALF SQUARE FEET AND FAIRLY LOW, WE WOULD JUST APPROVE THOSE, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK.
NOW, WE WOULD, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THAT WOULD NOT, WE WOULD JUST DO IT FOR STAFF, AS LONG AS IT WAS COMPLIANT WITH A CODE.
IF IT WERE SIGNIFICANTLY OUT OF COMPLIANCE, I WOULD REQUEST IT.
IT WOULD COME BACK HERE FOR YOUR REVIEW, BUT IF IT'S JUST AN ENTRANCE SIGN OR A DIRECTIONAL SIGN THAT MEETS THE SA THE SIGN CODE, I WOULD NOT REQUIRE THEM TO COME BACK FOR ANOTHER MEETING.
UM, MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL OR ANY PARCEL IN THE CITY.
LITTERED IS WHAT I CALL IT WITH THESE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS THAT IF POSSIBLE, YEAH, NONE HAVE BEEN INDICATED ON THE SITE PLAN.
I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE A NECESSITY FOR THAT.
UM, BUT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
UM, IF YOU WANT TO POSE THAT QUESTION TO THEM.
ANY OTHER QUESTION, MR. JEFFRIES, AARON, CAN YOU GO TO THE, WHERE THE SIX FOOT GROUND SIGN IS JUST FOR CLARIFICATION? SO, SO THAT'S UP AT THEIR PARCEL.
I MEAN, DO WE NEED TO, OR IS THERE GOING TO BE A PLAN TO PUT A SIGN UP AT THE ACTUAL ENTRANCE WHERE IT COMES IN OFF TAYLORSVILLE SINCE THEY'RE USING THE RURAL KING ENTRANCE, AND THEN THE SECOND PART WITH THE COVENANT, DOES THAT MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT OUTSIDE STORAGE OF MULCH AND STUFF BLOCKING THAT LANE IS WHAT WE'RE HEARING CORRECT.
I MEAN, THAT SEEMS TO BE CLEANING UP AND COMING ALONG OVER THERE AND LOOKING MUCH BETTER.
UM, SO THERE WILL BE, I THINK YOU ARE PROPOSING AN ENTRANCE SIGN HERE, UH, AT, AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE ITSELF.
THE LARGER GROUND SIGN IS RIGHT HERE.
UM, THE, THE COVENANTS, AS I WOULD READ THEM IS COMPLETE UNOBSTRUCTED ACCESS ALONG THIS WAY, UH, THROUGH HERE, UM, WHEN THE SITE, WHEN THEY CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY AND, UM, WE'LL HAVE TO COME AGAIN FOR, UM, A, UH, A, A REPLAT, UM, SO THAT WILL LIKELY NEED TO COME IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, BUT WHEN THAT OCCURS AND WHICH WILL FORCE BASICALLY RURAL KING TO MAKE CHANGES TO THEIR DISPLAY CORRAL, UM, WE'RE GOING TO RE-ENGAGE WITH, WITH RURAL KING ABOUT ALL OF, ALL OF THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE WILL PROBABLY
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ASK TO, UM, AMEND THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.SO WE ARE SPECIFIC, VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, WHAT THIS NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU, SIR.
WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT? THANKS FOR HAVING US BACK.
IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE I'LL SIGN IN HERE.
UH, BRIAN DEAN I'M WITH A FIRM CALLED HAMMIS COMPANY, REPRESENTING OUR CLIENT IN MOVING THIS FORWARD, JUST TO, YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME EVERYONE'S SPENT BETWEEN YOU AND COUNCIL, AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS INCORPORATED IN THE DESIGN, AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ZONING CASE? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT APP ARCHITECTS ARCHITECTURE REQUESTED APPROVAL OF A DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO CONSTRUCT A 10,800 SQUARE FOOT EMERGENCY MEDICAL FACILITY PROPERTY? EXCUSE ME, PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 76, 11 OLD TROY PIKE, CURRENTLY THE RURAL KING PARKING DISPLAY AREA CASE DDP 22 DASH 29 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF'S MEMORANDUM DATED JULY 19TH, 2022.
AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION RECORD ATTACHED TO THERE TOO.
MOVED BY MS. VARGOS THERE A SECOND.
SECOND BY MISS OFF SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MR. JEFFRIES? YES.
MS. THOMAS ESOP, MS. FARGO, MR. WALL, YES.
WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE APPLICANT.
SO THE NEXT STEPS, ONCE THE APPLICANT ACQUIRES THE PROPERTY, THEY WILL SUBMIT TO US THEIR, UH, THEIR BUILDING PLANS, UH, UM, FOR ZONING, UM, APPROVAL, UM, ONCE THE 30 DAY.
UM, SO THE ZONING ORDINANCE GOES INTO EFFECT 30 DAYS FROM YESTERDAY.
UM, AND SO ONCE THAT TIME EXPIRES, WE WILL ISSUE THE ZONING PERMIT.
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ADDITIONAL BUSINESS, WHICH WE HAVE NONE.
UM, FOLLOWING THAT AS APPROVAL OF MINUTES, THE PLANNING COMMISSION JULY 12TH, 2022 MINUTES, WOULD BE APPROVED.
AND HERE WE KNOW OBJECTIONS, THEY ARE APPROVED REPORTS AND CALENDAR REVIEW, MR. CRL.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE NOTHING ON THE CALENDAR, UH, COMING UP.
UM, I GUESS THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD, I KIND OF WANT TO GAUGE THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON.
SO EVEN THOUGH KROGER WITHDREW THEIR APPLICATION, UM, DO YOU HAVE STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT OUTDOOR DISPLAYS? YES.
THE CODE, THE CODE IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DISPLAYED OR SOLD OUTDOORS ALONG WITH THE TIME PERIOD.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS DO YOU LIKE THAT RESTRICTIVENESS OR, UM, AS IF THINGS LIKE THIS WERE TO COME ABOUT AGAIN, DO YOU WANT US TO BE ME A LITTLE MORE ACCOMMODATING? SO I'M LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON WHAT YOU THINK COMMUNITY VALUES ARE AS IT RELATES TO OUTDOOR SALES.
I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE THE SKID STACKED UP AT THE GAS STATIONS.
I MEAN, I LIKE THE ENTRANCE AT KROGER WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR SEASONAL STUFF OUT THERE.
IT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE IT'S PART OF THE ENTRY WAY AND ALL THAT WHEN THEY'VE GOT STACKS OF SKIDS AND PLASTIC WRAP.
AND I MEAN, I DROVE BY KROGER THAT YESTERDAY, THERE'S NOTHING SEASONAL TO ME ABOUT WATER SOFTENER SALT, AND THEY HAVE FOUR SKIDS OF IT SITTING OUT THERE IN THE PARKING LOT RIGHT NOW.
AND I WENT TO THE KROGER AND TROY VANDELIA AND WHITE CLOUD PARK.
AND WE'RE THE ONLY ONE WITH ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND I THINK IF WE ALLOW IT, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW IT UP AND DOWN 2 0 1 AND 2 0 2 AT EVERY OTHER GAS STATION IN TOWN EVENTUALLY.
I JUST, I AGREE WITH JIM, I THINK IT JUNKS THE PLACE UP.
I THINK IT DOESN'T HOLD AESTHETICS.
AND IF WE'RE EVER GOING TO MAKE ANY CHANGES AND ATTRACT BETTER BUSINESSES, WE HAVE TO LOOK LIKE WE, WE SHOULD WANT THOSE BUSINESSES.
NOT, WE'RE NOT THAT WE'RE THE DOLLAR GENERALS EVERYWHERE.
ALSO WHEN THEY ARE APPLIED THE BUILDING, THEY TEND TO BLOCK PASSAGE AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S
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REALLY BUSY, UM, IT GETS IN THE WAY, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT IT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF IF IT'S OUT IN THE PARKING LOT, THAT IT DOES NOT BLOCK THE MOVEMENT OF TRAFFIC.I KIND OF ALONG THE SAME LINES, EXCEPT FOR LIKE JUST PSYCH CONDITIONS, BEING ABLE TO LOOK AROUND AND, YOU KNOW, BLOCKING THE VIEW.
I KNOW I WAS AT LOWE'S OVER THE SUMMER WHEN THEY HAD THEIR PLANTS AND STUFF OUT AND THEY WERE BLOCKED OUT INTO THE FIRE LANE AND CONVERGING TRAFFIC.
AND IT WAS ALSO THE AREA WHERE THEY'VE GOT OUTDOOR PICKUP NOW WHERE THEY, WHICH, WHICH I THINK IS GOOD, WE HAVE IN BULK STUFF, BUT IT WAS ALL AT THAT SAME AREA WHERE YOU HAD PEOPLE WALKING BACK AND FORTH IN FRONT OF TRAFFIC AND VERY LITTLE AREA TO MOVE.
SO I THINK, I MEAN, BLOCKING ACCESS WAYS IS AN ISSUE AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SOME OUTDOOR SALES.
LIKE THE GAS STATION HAS, YOU KNOW, THEIR LITTLE, THEIR INTERIOR KIND OF WHATEVER, THE OUTDOOR SALES STUFF THAT WAS IN THE DRAWING.
IS THERE ALREADY THAT THOSE ARE MINOR AND MINIMAL.
AND I THINK EVERY GAS STATION HAS, YOU KNOW, GRAB AND GO BAGS OF ICE TYPE OF STUFF IT'S UP ON THEIR OWN SILENT.
SO THE REALLY, UM, THE REAL EYESORES, THE PALLETIZED PRODUCTS, THAT KIND OF STUFF IS, IS WHAT I'M HEARING.
THE STUFF THAT LOOKS MORE LIKE A STORAGE AREA INSTEAD OF A SALES AREA.
I MEAN, INCLUDING CONTAINERS AND I'VE SEEN, YEAH.
THERE'S CONTAINERS EVERYWHERE.
I MEAN, YOU LOOK EVERYWHERE AND THERE TARGET'S GOT STORAGE CONTAINERS IN THEIR PARKING LOT, AND I KNOW THEY'RE GOING THROUGH A REMODEL REMODEL.
UM, IT'S JUST, IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU SEE ONE GO AND THEY ALL POP UP EVERYWHERE AND, AND B DUBS IS BLOCKING PARKING SPACES.
SO I THINK I'VE GOT SOME, SOME BETTER DIRECTION FROM, FROM THE COMMISSION, SO WELL, UM, SO I, I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE END OF IT.
UM, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE COMMISSION'S VALUES ARE.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT, I GUESS ON IT MIGHT BE OFF TOPIC, MAYBE SIDEBAR.
SO, CAUSE SOMEBODY WAS ASKING ME EARLIER, I GUESS MYERS HAD PUT OUT, UH, THAT THEIR GAS STATION HAD OUTDOOR ICE FOR BAGS AND WAS TOLD THEY WERE NONCOMPLIANT.
AND I WOULD THINK FROM A GAS STATION, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE REGULATE FILLING STATIONS.
TO ME, THAT'S KIND OF A COMMON ITEM THERE, UH, BAGS OF ICE OR IN A MACHINE AGAINST THE BUILDING.
THEY'RE NOT LAYING ON A PALLET.
I, I WOULD STAY, BUT THAT'S CONTAINED IN WHAT I, WHAT I'VE SEEN AS NORMAL IT'S UP ON THEIR SIDEWALK.
SO AGAIN, I HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN INTO THAT A TON, OTHER THAN TO ME, THE SKIDS LOOKED LIKE STORAGE INSTEAD OF SALES, I GUESS, TO BE CLEAR FOR MY PERSONAL THOUGHT.
AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE IS UP FOR IT, BUT I I'D BE A FAN OF DISCUSSING.
AND AT SOME POINT OUR CODE AROUND FILLING STATIONS.
AND CAUSE I KNOW SOME AREAS HAVE DONE IT TO WHERE YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN TWO AT AN INTERSECTION AND THEY HAVE TO BE DIAGONAL FROM EACH OTHER.
YOU CAN'T BE ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE ROAD WITHIN SO MANY FEET.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THEM ON EVERY CORNER OVER TIME.
SO I'D BE OPEN FOR THAT CONVERSATION AT SOME POINT TO, LIKE I SAID, PROBABLY OFF TOPIC A LITTLE BIT SINCE WE WERE TALKING.
UM, WELL JUST CREATES A LOT OF TRAFFIC TOO.
WHEN YOU HAVE THE, ACROSS THE STREET FROM EACH OTHER, THERE'S IT'S JUST INCREASED TRAFFIC.
YOU ALSO SEE THEM HOPPING FROM ONE TO THE OTHER.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING COMING UP ON OUR NEXT.
UH, SO UNLESS, UM, UNLESS SOMETHING SMALL, UH, DROPS IN OUR LAP, UM, BY FRIDAY, UM, WE WILL NOT HAVE A AUGUST 23RD MEETING, UM, BACK TO ACTUALLY YEAH, IT WOULD NEED TO BE HERE YEAH.
AND IT NEEDS TO BE, IF IT, IF IT WERE A MINOR SUBDIVISION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN THAT PROBABLY, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ON THERE ON THEIR RADAR.
SO I WOULD, UH, I'M, I'M PRETTY, I THINK IT'S PRETTY SAFE TO SAY WE WILL NOT HAVE AN AUGUST, UH, UH, 23RD MEETING.
I'M SURE IT BREAKS YOUR HEARTS.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO BRING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION? THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT AND ATTENDING AND UH, ENJOY THIS WEATHER.
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WE ARE ADJOURNED.