[1. Call The Meeting To Order - Mayor Jeff Gore]
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CAN I GET A, YOU REMEMBER ONE? AND THIS IS THE SAME HUBER HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL MEETING.TODAY'S DATE IS JUNE 27TH, 2022.
IT'S 6 0 3, AND WE'RE GETTING STARTED.
UH, THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDER.
[2. Invocation - Pastor Festus Rucigitaramo Of The Dayton Compassion Church At 6875 Old Troy Pike, Huber Heights, Ohio]
THE NEXT ITEM IS OUR INVOCATION BY PASTOR FESTUS OF THE CITY OF DRIVE THE DAYTON COMPASSION CHURCH AT 68 75 OLD DETROIT PIKE IN HUBER HEIGHTS.GLAD YOU CAN BE WITH US THIS EVENING.
I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO OUR CONSOLE FOR INVITING ME TONIGHT TO THESE IMPLICATION.
UM, IT'S A GREAT HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE, INDEED IT TO BE HERE.
UM, BEFORE I PRAY, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE JUST SHORT SCRIPTURE FROM PSALMS 1 21.
I WENT THROUGH DIFFERENT VERSES ONE TO SEVEN AND EIGHT, UH, JUSTICE.
I'M OVER, YOU KNOW, I LIFT UP MY EYES TO THE MOUNTAINS.
WHY DOES MY HELP COME FROM MY HEAD COMES FROM THE LORD, THE MAKER OF HEAVEN AND THE EARTH, THE LORD WHO WOULD KEEP YOU FROM ALL HARM, WHO WOULD WATCH OVER YOUR LIFE.
THE LORD WILL WATCH OVER YOUR COMING AND GOING BOTH NOW IN THE 40 VERMONT.
THANK YOU LORD, FOR YOUR WORDS.
IS THERE ANYTHING OR ANY SITUATION THAT LOOKS LIKE A MOUNTAIN BEFORE YOU, OR YOU THINK IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO REMOVE THE LORD? THE MAKER OF HEAVEN AND THE EARTH CAN HELP YOU REMOVE IT WITH HIM? NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE.
DO YOU NEED THE PROTECTION FOR YOUR LIFE? THE LORD IS ABLE TO KEEP YOU FROM ALL OF THEM.
HE'S INDEED ABLE TO WATCH OVER YOUR LIFE, OVER YOUR COMING AND GOING BOTH NOW AND BEFORE, AS HE DOES INVOLVE GOD INTO THEIR DUTIES, THEY WOULD GET HELP FROM GOD.
THERE'LL BE UNDER HIS PROTECTION AND THEY WOULD ACHIEVE GREAT SUCCESS.
AND WHAT DID THEY DO FOR A CT? PLEASE JOIN ME IN PRAYER TO GOD, GOD, WE INVITE YOUR PRESENCE IN THIS ROOM.
THEY TRY FAVORABLY UPON EACH PERSON IN THIS HOME.
WE WILL HONOR YOU AND WORSHIP YOU.
LORD YOU ALONE DESERVE ALL THE GLORY.
WE THANK YOU FOR GIVING US LEADERS WHO LOVE YOU AND WHO PUT TRUST IN YOU.
LORD BLESS THEM AND MAKE THEM A CHANNEL OF BLESSING TO OUR CITY.
INSPIRE THEM, STRENGTHEN THEM AS THEY WORK HARD DAY INTO NIGHT TO ENSURE OUR COMMUNITY KEEPS ENJOYING THE PEACE, UNITY AND PROSPERITY.
TONIGHT'S AGENDA, LORD GRANT, SPATIAL WISDOM TO WHAT COUNSEL SO THAT EACH ONE OF THEM MAY PARTICIPATE FULLY IN THE BRINGING THE BEST DECISIONS AND THEIR SOLUTIONS FOR OUR WELLBEING.
FOR BETA BEING OFF FOR COMMUNITY.
[3. Pledge Of Allegiance]
[4. Roll Call]
MR. SHAW AIR MS. BAKER HERE.UM, MR. LYONS, AND I DON'T KNOW, I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING FROM MR. LYONS THAT HE'S TURNED ANYTHING INTO WIPING BEARD.
IS THERE A MOTION TO EXCUSE MR. LYONS ABSENCE THIS EVENING? GLEN, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO EXCUSE.
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IS THERE A SECOND TO EXCUSE RICHARD, SECOND COLORADO.MR. LYONS IS NOW A FEW YEAR MRS. KITCHEN.
[5. Approval Of Minutes]
NEXT UP IS NUMBER FIVE.OUR APPROVAL OF MINUTES, ITEM FIVE A IS A CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES DATED JUNE 13TH, 2020.
THOSE MINUTES HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, THOSE MENTAL STANDARDS APPROVED CASING, NONE OF THOSE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
[ Huber Heights Police Division K9 Recognition Presentations: - Presentation Of Plaque To Mrs. Teresa Huber In Appreciation Of Her Continued Support Of The Huber Heights Police Division K9 Program. - Recognition Of Dedicated Service Of K9 Officer Mike Reckner And Retired K9 Adu. - Recognition Of Dedicated Service Of K9 Officer Cory Siegrist And Retired K9 Eddie. - Introduction Of K9 Officer Shawn Waler And New K9 Samo.]
NEXT UP IS ITEM SIX, A SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS ON ANNOUNCEMENTS.MR. ROGERS, ADAM SIX, A HUBER HEIGHTS, POLICE DIVISION, CANINE RECOGNITION PRESENTATIONS.
UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL THIS EVENING.
THE FIRST STOP WILL BE A PRESENTATION OF PLAQUE, MRS. THERESA HUBER AND APPRECIATION OF HER CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE HUBER HEIGHTS POLICE DIVISION CANINE PROGRAM.
SO EVER IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME TO THE FRONT AND A GORY WILL JOIN YOU.
I AM, UH, HONORED THIS EVENING TO BE ABLE TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW CANINE HANDLER AND OUR NEW CANINE.
AND I ALSO AM HONORED TO INTRODUCE AND RECOGNIZE TWO OF OUR PREVIOUS CANINE HANDLERS, WHO THE HANDLERS AREN'T RETIRING, BUT THE POLICE CANINE IS RETIRING.
BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, UM, EVEN MORE SO I'M HONORED TO HAVE HERE THERESA HEBER, UM, WHO IN MY 30 PLUS YEARS HERE ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU HAVE BEEN, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF NOT ONLY OUR CANINE PROGRAM, BUT YOU'VE JUST BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF OUR POLICE DIVISION.
I REMEMBER WHEN I WENT THROUGH PELKE BACK IN 2000, I INTERVIEWED YOU AS A CITY LEADER IN THE CITY.
AND, AND I, I REMEMBER SITTING AT YOUR DESK AT YOUR BUILDING OVER HERE AND YOUR DOG HAD RED LIPSTICK RIGHT HERE.
AND I SAID, WHAT IS THAT ON YOUR DOG'S FOREHEAD? AND YOU SAID, THAT'S WHERE I KISSED THE DOG ALL THE TIME.
SO NO, YOU HAVE, UM, BEEN SO SUPPORTIVE AND NOT ONLY FINANCIALLY, UM, BUT ALSO JUST IN, IN EVERYTHING YOU DO, HOW YOU PRAISE, WHAT WE DO AND YOU SUPPORT WHAT WE DO AND YOU ENCOURAGE WHAT WE DO.
AND, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE IT.
AND SO I WANT TO PRESENT THIS BACK TO YOU.
IT SAYS PRESENTED TO MISS MRS. THERESA HUBER AND APPRECIATION FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR THE HUBER HEIGHTS POLICE DIVISION K9 PROGRAM LISTED ON HERE ARE SEVEN DIFFERENT CANINES THAT YOU HAVE PURCHASED PAID FOR AND THE TRAINING FOR THE HANDLER TO, TO, UH, HANDLE THE DOG AND WORK THE STREET.
AND THAT HAS RICO, SAMMY, LEX DRAGON, UH, DO EDDIE AND NOW SAM, AND I'M SURE YOU KNEW EVERY NAME ON THERE.
YOU JUST WANT TO STAY UP HERE.
SO FIRST I WANT TO BRING IN, UM, WE'LL BRING IN CANINE, EDDY WITH HANDLER COREY SIEGRIST.
NOW THE DOGS ARE GOING TO DETERMINE HOW LONG THEY'RE GOING TO STAND.
SO EDDIE IS A BELGIUM MALLOMAR CHOSEN FROM BOND LAKE KENNELS IN DENVER, INDIANA, COREY AND EDDIE COMPLETED A SIX WEEK TRAINING ACADEMY AND THEN RECEIVED STATE OF OHIO CERTIFICATION IN PATROL AND NARCOTICS WORK.
EDDIE STARTED ON THE ROAD, JULY 12TH, 2015 WITH HIS LAST DAY.
OVER THE COURSE OF HIS CAREER CANINE, EDDIE HAS TRAVELED ACROSS MONTGOMERY CLARK, GREEN AND MIAMI COUNTIES AS FAR SOUTH AS XENIA AND EAST OF SPRINGFIELD, NORTH DETROIT AND EVERYWHERE IN BETWEEN OFFICER SIEGRIST WORKS EXTENSIVELY WITH EDDIE TO PERFECT HIS TRACKING CAPABILITIES.
THEY WOULD CONTINUOUSLY TRAIN OVER VARIOUS HARD SURFACES AND IN ALL TYPES OF WEATHER SO THAT EDDIE WAS BEYOND PROFICIENT AND LOCATING INDIVIDUALS.
MALLON WAS HAVE A STRONG DRIVE AND EDDIE WOULD CONTINUE TO TRACK EVEN WHEN HE WAS EXHAUSTED.
AND HE ALWAYS CAME TO WORK READY TO PERFORM.
K9 EDDIE HAS PARTICIPATED IN MANY OF THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT CAMPAIGNS AND COMMUNITY EVENTS, DOING DEMONSTRATIONS FOR DIFFERENT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, BOTH IN THE CITY AND OTHERS WHEN REQUESTED.
AND HE WAS A FIXTURE OF VARIOUS BOY SCOUT MEETINGS WHERE THE CHILDREN WOULD MEET HIM AND GET TO LEARN ABOUT THE ROLE OF A K9 OFFICER.
EDDIE WAS A TRUE MEMBER OF THE SHIFT.
THE OFFICERS RESPECTED HIM AND LOOKED FORWARD TO HAVING HIM ON DUTY WITH HIM.
ONE INCIDENT THAT STANDS OUT WAS ON AFTERNOON SHIFT.
THE OFFICERS HAD JUST CLEARED A CALL WHEN A RANDOM PERSON WALKED UP TO THEM.
THIS INDIVIDUAL TOOK OUT A KNIFE AND THREATENED TO CUT HIMSELF WITH IT.
AS THE OFFICERS BACKED UP, EDDIE JUMPED FROM HIS SPOT IN THE PATROL CAR, RAN BETWEEN OFFICER PRESENCE, LEGS AND TOOK THE SUBJECT DOWN.
HE TRULY WAS THEIR GUARDIAN ANGEL.
I'D LIKE TO PRESENT EDDY 2015 TO 2022 HAVE DEDICATED
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SERVICE TO THE VICE POLICE DIVISION AND THE CITIZENS OF HUBER HEIGHTS TO ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT.ANY ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'LL BRING IN K9 ADO WITH HANDLER MIKE RECKNER, UH, IS READY TO COME IN.
I DO AS A DUTCH SHEPHERD AND WAS BORN AUGUST 1ST, 2012 IN HOLLAND, A DUDE WAS CHOSEN FROM THE BOTTLENECK KENNELS IN DENVER, INDIANA.
OFFICER RAGNAR WAS SELECTED AS THE CANINE HANDLER IN 2014.
AND HE SELECTED TO DO IN MARCH OF 2014, MIKE, AND TO DO ATTENDED THE SIX WEEK TRAINING AND GRADUATED IN MAY, 2014.
THE DUDE WAS ALSO A DUAL PURPOSE DOG WITH PATROL AND NARCOTICS CERTIFICATIONS OVER THE COURSE OF HIS CAREER ON THE ROAD.
HE MADE MANY APPREHENSIONS AND APPREHENSIONS AND HUNDREDS OF DRUG AND MONEY SEIZURES DUE HAD HIS FIRST SUCCESSFUL TRACK AND APPREHENSION.
THE WEEK HE BEGAN WORKING IN THE ROAD, THE SUSPECT COMMITTED AN AGGRAVATED BURGLARY AND CRASHED HIS VEHICLE THAT DO TRACKED HIM AND LOCATED HIM HIDING UNDER A SEMI-TRAILER.
HE ASSISTED IN FINDING A FELONY WARRANT SUSPECT.
HE RAN FROM WALMART, BUT DUKE FOUND HIM SHIRTLESS AND CLINGING TO A PINE TREE, 30 FEET UP IN THE AIR.
HE LOCATED NUMEROUS SUSPECTS HIDING UNDER VEHICLES OR ON TOP OF BUILDINGS ONCE LOCATED TO DO WAS ABLE TO PASSIVELY KEEP THE SUSPECT THERE UNTIL HE WAS SECURED BY FELLOW OFFICERS AND GROUP OF JUVENILES COMMITTED ROBBERIES OF PIZZA DRIVERS AND ARMED WITH HANDGUNS GAVE UP AND STATED THEY DID NOT WANT TO GET AND WOULD HAVE RUN OR SHOT IT OUT WITH US.
IF IT WASN'T FOR THE CANINE, SEVERAL OF HIS NOTICEABLE DRUG AND MONEY SEIZURES WERE MADE.
ONE NOTABLE DRUG SEIZURE WAS BUTLER TOWNSHIP WHERE HE LOCATED 40 POUNDS OF MARIJUANA AND SEVERAL DUFFEL BAGS LOCATED IN A VEHICLE.
INGLEWOOD PD STOPPED A SUSPICIOUS VEHICLE AND REQUESTED A CANINE FOR A FREE OR SNIFF.
THE VEHICLE WAS A SPRINTER VAN.
AND AFTER A POSITIVE ALERT, WE LOCATED $400,000 IN CASH, HIDDEN BEHIND A FALSE WALL IN THE VEHICLE DUE, RETIRED FROM THE ROAD IN FEBRUARY OF 2021 DUE TO HIS AGE, HE HAS SINCE ENJOYING RETIREMENT AND STILL PLAYING IN THE WOODS.
SO MIKE, AND TO DO AND APPRECIATION FOR YOUR MANY YEARS, 2014 TO 2021, I'M DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE HUBER HEIGHTS POLICE DIVISION AND THE CITIZENS OF HUBER HEIGHTS ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT.
YOU GUYS MENTIONED SAM AND HIS HANDLER, SEAN WALLER.
SO SAMMO IS LIKELY A YEAR OLD.
DO THEY STAY WITH THEIR HANDLERS? YES.
THEY STAY AT THEIR HOME AND WHEN THEY RETIRE, THEY STAY WITH THEM TOO.
SO OFFICER WALLER WAS A POLICE EXPLORER FOR THE HPD EXPLORER POST FROM 1996 TO 2000, HE STARTED HIS POLICE CAREER IN 2003, A PERRY TOWNSHIP THEN WENT TO JACKSON TOWNSHIP.
OFFICER WALLER CAME TO HEBREW HEIGHTS PD IN MAY OF 2005.
HE HAS HAD A SUCCESSFUL CAREER SERVING IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES TO INCLUDE BIKE PATROL, EVIDENCE, TECHNICIAN, CRITICAL INCIDENT EVIDENCE, TEAM MEMBER OPERATOR ON THE REGIONAL EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM.
AND MOST RECENTLY OUR NEWEST CANINE HANDLER SAM.
I WAS A 15 MONTH OLD SHEPHERD BELGIAN MALINOIS MIX THAT CAME FROM POLAND.
SAM WAS CHOSEN FROM THE SHALLOW CREEK KENNELS IN PENNSYLVANIA.
HE WAS SELECTED DUE TO HIS DEMONSTRATED DRIVE ABILITY TO TRACK AGILITY AND OUTWARD CONFIDENCE OFFICER WALLER, AND SAMMO ATTENDED K9 TRAINING AT KETTERING POLICE CANINE ACADEMY.
THEY WORKED ON EVERYTHING FROM OBEDIENCE TO AREA BUILDING SEARCHES, DRUG IDENTIFICATION, AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
SAM WAS FIRST DAY ON THE ROAD WAS MAY 31ST, 2022.
THAT DAY HE RESPONDED TO HELP A NEIGHBORING AGENCY ON A FREE AIR SNIFF.
A LARGE QUANTITY OF METHAMPHETAMINES WAS LOCATED IN THE VEHICLE.
SAM ALERTED TO DURING HIS TIME OFF, SAMUEL LOVES TO PLAY TUG OF WAR AND CHASING A BOWL AROUND THE BACKYARD.
SO I WANT TO, I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO, UM, YOU, YOU ALREADY MET THE OTHER DOGS.
I REMEMBER WHEN EDDIE WAS INTRODUCED ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO WHEN WE WENT OUT THERE, HE GOT OFF THE LEASH AND RAN BACK IN HERE.
UH, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN TONIGHT, BUT, UM, JUST ANY, ANY THAT YOU HAVE DOING THIS FOR THE OFFICERS
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CHARLES AND I ALWAYS TALKED THATIT WAS JUST, WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE TO HAVE
[ Announcement: The City Is Required To Make A Public Notice And Announcement Of The Final Cost To Property Owners Of The 2022 Sidewalk Program Prior To Beginning The Assessment Process. The 2022 Sidewalk Program Is Complete And The Final Cost For Property Owners Is $109,674.27.]
BEAT ITEM, SIX FEE AND ANNOUNCEMENT.THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO MAKE A PUBLIC NOTICE AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE FINAL COST TO PROPERTY OWNERS OF THE 2022 PROGRAM.
PRIOR TO BEGINNING THE ASSESSMENT PROCESS, THE 2022 SIDEWALK PROGRAM IS COMPLETE.
AND THE FINAL COST FOR PROPERTY OWNERS IS $109,674 AND 27 CENTS.
AND NEXT IS ITEM SEVEN SESSIONS.
COMMENTS I HAVE NOT IN THE SYDNEY.
AND NEXT IS ITEM EIGHT CITIZENS REGISTER TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS. I HAVE TO, UH, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM 11 B GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
WELL, YEAH, ONCE WE GET TO THE AGENDA ITEM YET, THEN WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU MAKE SURE THAT WE CALL ON YOU.
AND ITEM NUMBER NINE IS OUR CITY MANAGER REPORT.
I KNOW BRIAN IS CRAWLING VACATION.
KATIE IS THE ACTING CITY MANAGER.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU HAD TO SAY, I DON'T THINK YOU'VE GOT A REPORT PREPARED, BUT NEVER IMPORTANT THIS EVENING.
[10. Pending Business]
10 PENDING BUSINESS.I'M TEN EIGHT ITEM 10, A AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CERTAIN SECTIONS APART, ONE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE OR THE HEBREW HEIGHTS CODIFIED ORDINANCES AT THE SECOND READING.
SO THIS INCLUDES TECHNICAL CHANGES TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE TO MAKE THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, APPROVED LEGISLATION LEGAL.
SO THIS IS THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY.
YOUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT.
IS THERE A MOTION, MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT PLEASE.
NANCY, NO EMOTION AND A SECONDARY DISCUSSION.
AND THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.
[ An Ordinance Approving The Editing And Inclusion Of Certain Ordinances And/Or Resolutions As Parts Of The Various Component Codes Of The City Code Of Huber Heights, Ohio; Providing For The Adoption And Publication Of New Matter In The Updated And Revised City Code As Supplement 10; And Repealing Ordinances And Resolutions In Conflict Therewith. (first reading)]
I AM 11, EIGHT.I AM ALIVE AND A, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE EDITING AND INCLUSION OF CERTAIN ORDINANCES AND OR RESOLUTIONS AS PARTS OF THE VARIOUS COMPONENT CODES OF THE CITY CODE OF HUBER HEIGHTS, OHIO PROVIDING FOR THE ADOPTION AND PUBLICATION OF NEW MATTER AND THE UPDATED AND REVISED CITY CODE OF SUPPLEMENT
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10 AND REPEALING ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS AND CONFLICT THERE WITH, AT THE FIRST READING.THIS IS A, AN ORDINANCE THAT IS A STANDARD ORDINANCE THAT YOU SEE PERIODICALLY WHERE WE CODIFY RECENT LEGISLATION PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL INTO THE HUMAN RIGHTS, CODIFIED ORDINANCES.
THIS IS SUPPLEMENT 10, REPRESENTING THE LEGISLATION FROM THE PERIOD OF JANUARY 1ST THROUGH MARCH 31ST OF THIS YEAR.
IT CAN GO TO TWO READINGS PRIOR TO ADOPTION.
IT WORKS AS RECOMMENDATION WAS PASSED ON TO A SECOND READING, IS THERE A MAJORITY OBJECTION TO PASSING THIS ITEM TO A SECOND? GOOD.
[ A Resolution To Appoint Richard Dzik To The Position Of City Manager Of The City Of Huber Heights. (first reading)]
IS ITEM 11, BEAT MR. ROGERS, ITEM 11, BE A RESOLUTION TO APPOINT RICHARD G TO THE POSITION OF CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS AT THE FIRST READING, UM, BEING THAT WE ARE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER SHORT THIS EVENING, UH, I THINK THIS DESERVES A FAIR FOR DOWN VOTE WITH ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT.UH, I'D RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE THIS ITEM ON TO A SECOND READING.
IS THERE A MAJORITY? OBJECTION, GLENN.
I HAD SEEN A REASON NOT TO HAVE THE VOTE TONIGHT.
IT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR A READING.
UM, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO CHANGE THAT UNLESS WE, UNLESS YOU'RE SUGGESTING WE AMEND THE AGENDA AND REMOVE IT.
NO, I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE PASS THE ITEM TO THE SECOND READING SINCE NOT ALL MEMBERS ARE HERE TO VOTE AND UNLESS THERE'S A MAJORITY OBJECTION TO DOING SO THEN I'D MOVE THIS TO A SECOND READING.
IS THERE FIVE? OH, I DO APOLOGIZE MIRROR.
I WAS NOT MAKING AN OBJECTION.
I WAS MAKING A MOTION TO ADOPT ITEM B THIS EVENING.
SO FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE IDEA THAT WE'VE MOVED TO THE SECOND READING.
THERE WAS NOT A MAJORITY OF OBJECTION.
THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST RECOMMENDED ACTION THAT WOULD ADDRESS.
THAT WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ADDRESSED FOR.
SO IS THERE FIVE MEMBERS OBJECT TO MOVING THIS TO A SECOND READING AND NOT SEEING MAJORITY? OBJECTION, WE'LL MOVE THIS ONTO A SECOND READING, UH, AT THAT POINT.
UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER BIG AGENDA ITEM IS NOW DEALT WITH, IS THERE ANY OTHER, YEAH, WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE TO SPEAK ON THAT AGENDA ITEM.
SO, UH, THE FIRST WOULD BE ELENA
IF YOU PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME, UM, BEING ALLOWED TO SPEAK.
UM, MY NAME'S ELENA, AND EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT FROM HUBER HEIGHTS, I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE PROCESS OF, OF THIS HIRING PROCESS.
IT'S BEEN A LONG, UH, PROCESS FOR YOUR COMMUNITY AND I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING IT FROM WHERE I LIVE.
AND, UM, I WANTED TO URGE THE COUNCIL TONIGHT, NOT TO APPOINT THE CANDIDATE YOU'RE CONSIDERING FOR THE CITY MANAGER AND TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF GERALD SMITH WHO HAS MORE RELEVANT EXPERIENCE AND WHO HAS NOT RECEIVED A VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE IN HIS PREVIOUS ROLES.
AS THE GENTLEMEN YOU WERE CONSIDERING TONIGHT, HAS, IT SEEMS OBVIOUS TO ME WHO THE MORE QUALIFIED CANDIDATES WERE IN THIS PROCESS.
AND I'M SURE MANY CONSTITUENTS HERE IN HUBER HEIGHTS ARE WONDERING HOW THE CANDIDATES WERE EVALUATED.
IF SOMEONE WITH AS MUCH EXPERIENCE AS MR. SMITH IS BEING SKIPPED OVER IN FAVOR OF SOMEONE WITH LESS EXPERIENCE WHO RECEIVED A VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE IN HIS PREVIOUS ROLE, IRISH, THE CITY COUNCIL TO PROVIDE FULL TRANSPARENCY TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO SHOW EVERYONE EXACTLY HOW THE CANDIDATES WERE EVALUATED OBJECTIVELY AND FAIRLY IN THIS PROCESS.
ANOTHER THING THAT IS GLARINGLY OBVIOUS ME IS THAT MR. SMITH IS ARGUABLY THE MOST EXPERIENCED FINALIST IN THIS APPLICATION PROCESS.
AND HE HAPPENS TO BE THE ONLY BLACK APPLICANT YOU'VE DISMISSED HIM IN FAVOR OF A LESS QUALIFIED, NO CONFIDENCE VOTED APPLICANT WHO HAPPENS TO BE WHITE WHILE I DON'T DOUBT THAT YOUR INTENTIONS ARE GOOD.
I CAN'T HELP, BUT QUESTION WHETHER THERE WERE UNEXAMINED PERSONAL BIASES AMONGST THE MEMBERS OF THE HIRING COMMITTEE THAT HAVE LED TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
WHEN FOLKS VISIT THE CITY WEBSITE, A BOLD BANNER, GREETS THEM SAYING THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, DENOUNCES ALL FORMS OF SYSTEMIC AND INSTITUTIONAL RACISM AND DISCRIMINATION AND DECLARES THAT RACISM AS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.
IF THE CITY AND COUNCIL TRULY BELIEVES THIS, THEN YOU MUST ALSO HEAR TONIGHT THAT ONE OF THE MANY REASONS WHY RACISM IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS IS BECAUSE TOO OFTEN, PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE EXCLUDED FROM POSITIONS OF LEADERSHIP OR EXCLUDED FROM HAVING A SEAT AT THE TABLE TO AFFECT CHANGE.
YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE MR. SMITH AND YOUR LEADERSHIP TEAM, AND HIS PERSPECTIVE WOULD ADD SO MUCH TO CITY LEADERSHIP.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
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THANK YOU.UH, NEXT UP WE HAVE ANDY YADDO.
THIS WAS ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE A CITIZEN COMMENT.
UH, SO I GOT TWO ITEMS ON HERE.
I MUST, UH, AND JUST FILLED OUT THE FIRST FORM, BUT GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS ANDY OTTO, AND I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS A COUPLE ITEMS OF INTEREST.
I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND A GREAT APPRECIATION TO THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION FOR LAST WEEK'S EVENTS AND WHAT A COMMENDABLE TASK THEY TOOK ON AND REPRESENTED HUBER HEIGHTS IN A WAY THAT WE NEEDED TO NEED TO BE FROM CELEBRATING, EDUCATING, DISCUSSING, AND EXPERIENCING.
THIS WAS SUCH A SYMBOLIC ACHIEVEMENT.
AND I ALSO WANTED TO EXTEND A GREAT THANK YOU TO THEIR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS AS WELL FOR THEIR SUPPORT AND VOLUNTEERING EFFORTS.
I'M LOOKING VERY FORWARD TO THEIR FUTURE EVENTS AND THE SUCCESS THAT THEY BRING TO HUBER HEIGHTS.
SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER MY OPINION ON THE CITY MANAGER POSITION.
IT IS MY HOPE THAT SINCE IT IS INCLUDED IN THE BAKER CHILE CONTRACT AT NO NO ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF DOING ANOTHER SEARCH OF APPLICANTS WITH A VERY PUBLIC COUNSEL AGREEMENT OF HOW VOTING PROCEDURES WILL BE DETERMINED ON THE SELECTION OF OUR NEW CITY MANAGER ON PREVIOUS GO AROUND, IT APPEARS THAT IT HAD BEEN QUITE A MESS AND CAUSED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CONFUSION AND SEPARATION.
THIS WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO EXERCISE A DO OVER IN A PROPER AND FAIR MANNER.
I KNOW TONIGHT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION AND APPOINTING A DIFFERENT APPLICANT, WHERE THERE WERE SOME PUBLIC CONCERNS AND YET MANY ARE STILL CONFUSED.
WHY A VOTE OF A PARTICULAR APPLICANT HASN'T EVEN HAPPENED? I KNOW LAST WEEK THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF MAYBE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET AS MANY APPLICANTS TO APPLY OR MAYBE A LOWER QUALITY OF APPLICANTS.
AND I THINK THAT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE THAT YOU WOULDN'T ASSUME OR IMPLY SUCH A THING OF HUBER HEIGHTS SINCE, SINCE WE ARE DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB IN GROWTH AND OPPORTUNITY, IT'S MY OPINION THAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE EMPTY SPECULATIONS.
I WOULD ASK THAT FOR ONCE, PLEASE TAKE OFF YOUR ELECTED HATS AND THINK LIKE A RESIDENT, BECAUSE YOU WERE A RESIDENT BEFORE YOU WEREN'T OFFICE, YOU'LL BE A RESIDENT WHEN YOU'RE NO LONGER IN OFFICE.
SO AS A RESIDENT, AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER, LOOKING AT WHAT'S GOING ON, DO YOU TRULY BELIEVE THAT WHAT IS HAPPENING? THE DECISIONS THAT YOU WERE MAKING ON THE DAYAS SERVES THE RESIDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS IN THE MOST FAIR, INCLUSIVE, AND PROPER WAY.
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY ANSWERS THAT'S BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR MORAL COMPASS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT ACTIONS MATTER MOST, SO PLEASE THINK BETTER, DO BETTER AND SERVE BETTER.
[ Energy Aggregation Discussion]
UP IS ITEM 11 SEAT.I DON'T LOVE AND SEE IS THE ENERGY AGGREGATION DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN HERE FROM ENERGY ALLIANCES TO DISCUSS THE PROGRAM DOING WELL.
THANK YOU COUNCIL FOR HAVING ME BACK OUT TONIGHT, UH, YOU KNOW, TO ANSWER, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE SOME FINAL QUESTIONS ON, ON WHERE THINGS ARE AND WHERE THINGS COULD GO.
UM, YOU KNOW, I DID WATCH, UH, THE WORK SESSION FROM LAST WEEK AND, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION, RIGHT? SO IT'S A HORRIBLE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN OVERALL.
UM, YOU KNOW, BOTH FOR THE RESIDENTS AND FOR HUBER HEIGHTS AND JUST, YOU KNOW, ENERGY COSTS IN GENERAL.
SO, YOU KNOW, HERE AGAIN TO, UH, I THINK SORT OF, YOU KNOW, SHOW FOR A, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A FINAL TIME, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE SEEING FOR PRICING THAT MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING AND THAT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT SOME OF THE OPTIONS ARE THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ELSE I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS, YOU KNOW, HUBER HEIGHTS IS NOT ALONE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE, DIFFERENT SERVICE TERRITORY IS GOING BACK TO THE STANDARD RATE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED TO OTHER SUPPLIERS AND MULTIPLE SUPPLIERS AND THAT UNFORTUNATELY IS THE NORM RIGHT NOW THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY STARTING UP AGGREGATIONS OR RESIGNING AGGREGATIONS.
UM, THERE HAVE BEEN NONE THAT HAVE BEEN RENEWED IN THE STATE, UH, SINCE, AT LEAST FROM DECEMBER WHEN THIS ONE EXPIRED THE THROUGH JUNE, UH, THE RAMP UP WAS, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND THEN SAW MULTIPLE SLIDES.
THE RAMP UP WAS, WAS SO QUICK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE TIMING WAS JUST, WAS JUST TOUGH TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, UM, AT THAT TIME.
AND THEN THAT'S, SO THAT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE FOR MULTIPLE CONSULTANTS, MULTIPLE COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
UM, SOMETHING ELSE I WANTED TO TOUCH ON.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, YOU HAD ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT KIND OF THE VOLATILITY, YOU KNOW, WHERE THINGS, WHERE WE GOT TO THIS POINT AND SORT OF WHERE THINGS
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GO, UH, AND MAYOR, I THINK YOU, YOU HIT IT.UM, WE'RE IN UNCHARTED TERRITORY, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE, THE VOLATILITY OF THE LAST SIX MONTHS, UM, IT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT, IT, THE TIMES THAT WE'RE CLOSE WE'RE IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, UM, BUT WE'VE JUST, WE'VE NEVER BEEN HERE BEFORE, SO IT KIND OF HOW WE GOT HERE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE HISTORY HAS, HAS NEVER GOTTEN TO THIS POINT, UH, EVEN THOUGH NATURAL GAS PRICES HAVE BEEN HIGHER AT TIMES, YOU KNOW, IN 2014 PRICES TO GET TO $14, BUT THAT WAS TEMPORARY.
YOU KNOW, WE, WEREN'T SEEING 6, 7, 8, $9 NATURAL GAS IN THE SPRING MONTHS.
SO AGAIN, A VOLATILITY, UM, YOU KNOW, VERY HIGH.
SO AGAIN, TOUGH TO SEE, YOU KNOW, TO SAY WHERE WE'RE GOING.
UM, BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE HISTORY TO SAY, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE FROM HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME OTHER, UM, QUESTIONS I THINK ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY OTHER OTHER GROUPS AND OTHER PROGRAMS. UM, AND JUST AGAIN FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY, UH, WITH THOSE, I MEAN, THE SUPPLIERS THAT WE'VE ASKED TO BID, YOU KNOW, ARE PART OF THOSE PROGRAMS. I MEAN, AGAIN, I KNOW SOPAC, YOU KNOW, HAD BEEN BROUGHT UP FOR WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE CITY OF DAYTON, UH, AEP ENERGY IS THE SUPPLIER OF THAT AGGREGATION.
THEY WERE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, YOUR SUPPLIER FOR THE LAST TWO AGGREGATION PROGRAMS. SO THEY WERE PART OF PART OF THAT PROCESS.
SO, UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, OUR ROLE IS TO BE YOUR CONSULTANT, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS PROCESS AND TO GO TO NUMEROUS SUPPLIERS, UH, ON WHO, ON WHO CAN DO THAT.
SO I DID WANT TO SHARE, UM, AND I DIDN'T, I'VE SHOWN ENOUGH SLOTS HERE OR TIME AND I'LL PASS OUT KIND OF WHERE PRICING WAS TODAY.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS THE PRICING THAT WE GOT BACK, UM, FROM THE MULTIPLE SUPPLIERS, UH, WITH THE BEST PRICING WE SAW COMING BACK FROM ENERGY HARBOR.
UH, I DID SHOW, UH, A 12 THROUGH 48 MONTH TERM AGAIN, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S OUR JOB TO SHOW YOU A VARIETY OF TERMS, UM, THOUGH REALLY THE 12 AND 24 MONTH, AND I DON'T RECOMMEND THEM, RIGHT.
I THINK FOR THE RESIDENTS, THEY DON'T REALLY OFFER THEM ANY SORT OF A LOWERING OF PRICE, UM, YOU KNOW, BY TAKING ON THE RISK FOR THAT TIME AND REALLY NO SAVINGS THERE, ESPECIALLY THAT THE ALL ELECTRIC HOMES THEY'LL COME DOWN TO ABOUT FIVE, 9.2 SENTENCES A YEAR, UH, IN OCTOBER.
SO AGAIN, 12 AND 24 DON'T REALLY OFFER MUCH OF ANYTHING.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TOUCH ON THE 48.
IT IS THE LOWEST, BUT AGAIN, NOT, IT'S NOT A RECOMMENDATION I WOULD MAKE.
IT JUST FEELS TOO LONG OF A TERM, UM, TO, TO LOWER THE PRICE AND TO KIND OF HANG ON TO THAT PRICE, UH, FOR TOO LONG, JUST IN CASE THINGS WOULD HAPPEN TO MOVE IN ANY DIRECTION.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE 36 MONTHS, IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER ANYTHING, THAT MAY BE THE ONE, RIGHT.
UM, DO I LOVE THAT OFFER? I DON'T WRITE, I DON'T, I DON'T LOVE THAT PRICE AND, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY THE LOWEST FROM, FROM MULTIPLE SUPPLIERS, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DO SEE THE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY THERE THAT IT DOES LOWER THE PRICE FROM WHERE THINGS ARE NOW FOR THE NON ALL ELECTRIC HOME.
IT, WOULD IT BE ABOUT A 20, UH, 19% LOWER THAN AES HAS CURRENT RATES RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN FOR THE ALL ELECTRIC HOME, IT WOULD BE ABOUT A 5% OUTBREAK FROM, FROM PRICES THERE.
SO I THINK IN THIS DAY AND AGE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TAKE ANY BREAKS.
SO IT, SO IT IS SOMETHING, UM, AS WE SPOKE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE RISK WITH THAT IS OBVIOUSLY LOCKING IN FOR MULTIPLE YEARS.
IT DOES OFFER SOME, UH, SOME LOWERING OF PRICING.
NOW IT DOES OFFER SOME CERTAINTY OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, AT LEAST KIND OF THE NEXT TWO SUMMERS, BUT YET IT DOESN'T GET US INTO THAT FOURTH OR FIFTH YEAR.
THAT OF THINGS HAPPEN TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY COLLAPSED THAT WERE STUCK FOR TOO LONG.
UM, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT, THAT THE COMMENTS WERE MADE MULTIPLE TIMES DURING THE WORK SESSION, STILL NO TERMINATION FEES, RIGHT? SO THIS, YOU KNOW, DOES THIS GET US THROUGH THE NEXT YEAR AND MAYBE THE YEAR AFTER THAT? AND IF PEOPLE ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THAT, THEY'RE ALWAYS FREE TO SHOP AND LEAVE THE PROGRAM.
UM, I ALSO PUT ON THE BOTTOM WHERE THE PUCO APPLES TO APPLES RATES ARE RIGHT NOW.
SO THOSE WOULD BE THE LOWEST RATES PER TERM OFFERED BY AGAIN, VARIETY OF SUPPLIERS IF PEOPLE WANTED TO GO OUT AND SHOP AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL BAD.
UH, YOU KNOW, EVEN THAT THAT'S THAT 48 MONTH TERM AT 9.69 SENTENCE IS AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT, THAT THAT'S TOUGH TO DO.
UM, AND, AND TO KEEP IT APPLES TO APPLES, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, FIXED PRICE, NO TERMINATION FEE.
SO, SO TRYING TO LOOK AT WHAT IS A SIMILAR PRODUCT TO WHAT THE AGGREGATION PRICE, UH, WOULD BE.
SO AGAIN, WANTED TO BRING THESE OUT, UH, YOU KNOW, SHOW YOU SOME POTENTIAL OFFERS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, MAKING A RECOMMENDATION OF, OF SOMETHING, IF YOU WANT IT TO CONSIDER DOING ANYTHING ON WHAT THAT TERM WOULD BE.
AND, UM, YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, NOW AT THIS POINT, I, I, I BELIEVE IT WAS SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S SORT OF TIME TO MAKE A DECISION.
CAUSE I THINK IF YOU WAIT TOO LONG, YOU MIGHT AS WELL NOT DO ANYTHING AT THAT POINT, RIGHT? YOU MIGHT AS WELL KIND OF WAIT FOR IT TO PLAY OUT, UNFORTUNATELY, AND TO SEE WHAT THINGS ARE LIKE, UH, NEXT YEAR.
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UH, AND THE LAST POINT I'LL MAKE, YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT THIS COUNCIL, UM, KNOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TRIED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN FOR THE CITY.UM, BUT I THINK WE SHOWED THAT IN THE FALL WHEN WE SENT EVERYBODY BACK, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT THE PROCESS AND, YOU KNOW, IN US, YOU KNOW, SENDING EVERYBODY BACK TO THE UTILITY, I MEAN, WE DON'T MAKE ANY MONEY.
AND SO THAT THIS WASN'T A DECISION THAT WAS BEST FOR US.
THIS WAS A DECISION THAT WAS BEST, UH, FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TRIED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN FOR IT.
AND, UH, AS WE ALWAYS SAY IN JOKE, UH, ALL THE DECISIONS ARE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO COME TO A MEETING AND THEN GET YELLED AT, IN A PUBLIC FORUM BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T LOOK WELL FOR ANYBODY.
SO AGAIN, UH, YOU KNOW, TRIED TO PUT SOME THINGS TOGETHER FOR YOU TO CONSIDER, WELL, THANKS SO MUCH.
I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE IN CANON AND LOOKING AT THIS.
SO I THINK THE DISCUSSION THAT THE COUNCIL HAD KIND OF REVOLVED AROUND A COUPLE OF THINGS, ONE STOPPING THE BLEEDING, UH, PROTECTING OURSELVES FOR HEDGING OURSELF AGAINST THE UNKNOWN.
AND WHERE COULD THESE PRICES END UP A YEAR OR TWO DOWN THE ROAD.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT WE, WE DON'T KNOW, TWO YEARS AGO, IF YOU WOULD'VE ASKED US, IS ENERGY GOING TO BE EIGHT, NINE, 10 CENTS A KILOWATT HOUR? NONE OF US WOULD HAVE SAID, OH YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S REASONABLE.
SO, UM, ARE WE STARING AT 12, 13, 14 CENTS? SO THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, I MEAN, WHO KNOWS? WE DON'T KNOW.
SO I THINK, UH, THE 36 MONTH, UH, PRICE, AND FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T SEEING THIS, OR DON'T KNOW, IT'S 8.7, 9 CENTS IS THE, IS THE AGGREGATE RATE THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE TALKING ON AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IN FRONT OF US.
AND I THINK WHAT IT'S ALMOST 11 CENTS, IS THAT WHAT THE, UH, 10, 10 CENTS SOME OF THE 10.9 FOR THE NON ALL ELECTRIC HOME AND THEN STARTING IN, I GUESS IT WOULD BE NOVEMBER THE ALL ELECTRIC HOMES THEN GO DOWN TO 9.20 CENTS.
AND THAT WOULD BE THROUGH NEXT WEEK.
SO WE'RE SEEING A SAVINGS SERVER ONE.
AND THEN IF FOR SOME REASON, JERRY, OR ALL, ALL THE OTHER TERMS ARE STILL IN PLAY, RIGHT? SO IF WE DECIDE WE WANTED TO TERMINATE THIS CONTRACT, IT'S ALL WE LET WE GIVE NOTICE.
AND IT'S 120 DAYS, CORRECT? IF BOTH OF US IN ENERGY ALLIANCE AGREES TO TURN THE CONTRACT, IT CAN GO AWAY IMMEDIATELY, CORRECT? YES.
ANYONE IN THE CITY WHO DOESN'T AGREE OR IT DOESN'T AGREE, BUT COULD, COULD FIND SOMEHOW A CHEAPER RATE OVER IN A PERIOD OF TIME, THEY ARE MORE THAN WELCOMING AND, UH, FREE TO FIND OR CHOOSE ANY OTHER SUPPLIER AT A LOWER RATE.
IF THEY CAN FIND ONE, CORRECT, THAT'S CORRECT.
THERE IS NO TERMINATION, THERE'S NO TERMINATION FEES OR ANYBODY THAT WOULD THEN GET OUT OF THIS.
SO, UM, RIGHT OFF THE BAT, I SEE A SAVINGS FOR THE RESIDENTS AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THESE BILLS TO COME.
AND AGAIN, OUR RESIDENTS HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN, MAYBE A COUPLE OF THEM ARE VERY FIELD.
I'VE SEEN WHAT THESE NEW BILLS ARE GOING TO BE.
AND I THINK THERE PROBABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION, WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHO ARE GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY SURPRISED WHEN THEY START OPENING UP THESE BILLS AND SEEING WHAT'S HAPPENED TO THEIR, TO THEIR ENERGY PRICES.
SO, UM, WE GOT, I THINK CERTAINLY COUNCIL'S DECISION, BUT, UH, I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING RATHER THAN JUST TO KEEP LETTING THIS GO ON AND ON AND ON NOT KNOWING WHERE, WHERE THE BALL ENDS UP.
ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THREE DIFFERENT OUT CAUSES, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET OUT IN 120 DAYS.
IF WE AGREE IN ANY RESIDENT IN THE CITY CAN GET OUT ANYTIME THAT THEY WANT.
BUT WHAT I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE US TO DO SOMEHOW SOME WAY, WHETHER THROUGH OUR WATER BILL, THE WATER UTILITY, UM, I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH WHERE WE HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY ON EDUCATION ON THIS, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, WHAT THE PRICES ARE, WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT IT IS WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO AND WHAT THEIR OPTIONS ARE.
IF THEY FIND SOMETHING THEY CAN GET OUT OF IT.
I THINK WE HAVE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEIR OPTIONS ARE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.
BUT, BUT I THINK, I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE DO SOMETHING.
MA'AM CAN YOU TELL US TODAY'S ALREADY THE 27TH OF THE MONTH, WHICH IS INCREDIBLY, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT WASN'T FIVE MINUTES AGO.
IT WAS JANUARY, BUT CAN YOU TELL US OUR RAMP UP TIME? LIKE IF WE MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT AND VOTE, YES, WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH WHATEVER OPTION.
THIS IS HOW LONG UNTIL IT STARTED IT WASN'T AT 120 DAYS.
UH, WELL, SO NO, SO THIS WOULD BE A SEPTEMBER START.
IT'S THE ASSUMPTION THAT IF IT START, YOU KNOW, START EVERYBODY AT THE SAME TIME, SO IT WOULD BE A SEPTEMBER START.
SO IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS HAPPENING ON THEIR SEPTEMBER METER READ SO LIKELY ON THE BILL THAT THEY GET IN OCTOBER.
SO THEY WOULD START WITH THE SERVICE IN SEPTEMBER, BUT IT WOULD BE THE BILL IN OCTOBER THAT WOULD REFLECT ANY.
THEN YOU RAISE, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT NOW.
UM, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I BELIEVE THAT IF WE SIGNED UP THEN THE 120 DAYS, YES, YOU CAN HAVE THE CONTRACT 120 DAYS, BUT I BELIEVE ISN'T, IT, IT HAS TO RUN THROUGH THIS 36 MONTHS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, THERE WASN'T JUST A, THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT IN THE CONTRACT THAT IF WE SIGN UP FOR IT, THAT PEOPLE WOULD STILL BE GETTING IT, EVEN IF WE TERMINATED THE CONTRACT UNTIL THE END OF THE TERM OR SOMETHING.
I MEAN, SO THE PROGRAM, IF YOU DECIDED TO GO WITH THIS, YOU COULD, IF YOU DECIDED TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT AT ANY POINT DURING THAT THIS WOULD STILL STAY IN PLAY AND CONTINUE TO GO.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE CITY WOULD BE FREE TO MAKE ANY
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DECISIONS THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT US, IF, IF THAT WAS THE CHOICE.BUT THE RESIDENTS WOULD STILL HAVE THE 8.79 CENT RATE UNLESS THEY DECIDED TO GO SOMEPLACE ELSE ON THEIR OWN.
AND I'LL SAY WITH THAT TOO, FOR ANY REASON YOU DECIDED TO MAKE A TURN, YOU KNOW, IT SHOW IT CHANGED DURING THAT TIME.
I MEAN, WE'RE MANAGING THAT PROGRAM WITH YOU.
YOU WOULD OBVIOUSLY GET THE SERVICE UNTIL THE VERY LAST DAY OF THAT, OF TAKING THE CALLS AND ANYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU MADE A CHOICE, THAT'S THE OBVIOUSLY COMMITMENT WE MAKE GOING INTO THE PROCESS, MARK TO RICHARD, THE PROGRAM CAN START IN SEPTEMBER.
WHEN CAN WE LOCK THE RATE? UH, SO, SO THAT RATE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT REFRESHES EVERY DAY, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD LOCK TOMORROW.
UM, I, I, YOUR LAWYER HAS NOT SEEN A CONTRACT YET.
IF YOU THOUGHT YOU MAY CONSIDER IT.
I DO HAVE A DRAFT THAT I CAN LEAVE WITH HIM.
SO HE COULD START THAT PROCESS IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU WERE CONSIDERING.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD THINK AS SOON AS YOU VOTED ON IT, AND AS SOON AS YOU GOT APPROVAL THAT THE CONTRACT WAS FAVORABLE, THEN YOU COULD LOOK OKAY, RICHARD, THANK YOU.
UH, COULD YOU, UH, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME CONFUSION, UH, BETWEEN THE ALL ELECTRIC HOMES, THE AES PRICE, UM, THE 8.79 PRICE.
THAT IS FOR ALL ELECTRIC THAT'S FOR EVERYBODY, THAT'S FOR EVERYBODY'S FOR EVERYONE.
AND, AND EDUCATE US ONE MORE TIME.
UM, THE D P AND L A S WHATEVER THEY WANT TO BE CALLED TOMORROW, UH, PRICE IS GOING TO BE THAT STARTED JUNE 1ST.
SO IT'S 10.90 CENTS FOR, FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL ACCOUNTS AND THEN STARTING IN NOVEMBER.
CAUSE THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE OF PRICE FOR THE ALL ELECTRIC HOME.
I BELIEVE IT GOES DOWN TO 9.2 AND THAT WOULD BE FROM NOVEMBER THROUGH MAY OF NEXT YEAR.
SO EVERYTHING THEY DO, WHAT'S CALLED A PLANNING YEAR.
SO IT'S JUNE OF ONE YEAR TIL MAY OF THE NEXT, IT'S NOT A CALENDAR YEAR OR A FISCAL YEAR.
THEY DO IT PRETTY MUCH SUMMER TO SUMMER.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE IS, I THOUGHT THIS RATE APPLIED WHETHER YOU HAVE AN ALL ELECTRIC HOME OR A ALRIGHT MIX.
BUT I WAS SAYING AS FAR AS WHAT WE KNOW IS WITH THE RATES FOR A IS, OR D PEANUT, WHATEVER, WHATEVER WE KNOW THEIR RATES FROM JUNE OF THIS YEAR TO MAY OF NEXT YEAR.
SO THOUGH THE RATES, IF, IF PEOPLE STAYED WITH AES AS DEFAULT SERVICE, IT WOULD BE 10.90 CENTS FOR ALL, YOU KNOW, FOR ANY RESIDENTIAL.
BUT DURING THOSE WINTER MONTHS THAT THEY CALL IT FROM NOVEMBER THROUGH MAY, THAT THOSE ALL ELECTRIC HOMES WOULD, WOULD GO DOWN TO 9.20 CENTS IF THEY STAYED WITH AES AS DEFAULT SERVICE.
RIGHT? SO MIKE, MY QUESTION TO YOU, JUST TO HELP CLARIFY ALL THIS IS THAT ACTUALLY THE 36 MONTH TERM THAT YOU SUGGESTED HERE, UM, AT THIS POINT IN TIME IS BEST FOR OUR RESIDENTS, BUT IT REALLY PUTS A RISK ON YOU BECAUSE THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT, BUT IF THE RATES FELL DRAMATICALLY AND WE CHOSE TO TERMINATE THAT CONTRACT, THEN THAT KIND OF HELPS YOU OUT TOO.
RIGHT? WELL, I GUESS AT THAT POINT, THERE'S SORT OF TWO CONTRACTS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE IS OBVIOUSLY A CONTRACT IN PLACE WITH US AND ENERGY ALLIANCE AS YOUR CONSULTANT, BUT THEN YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE A SEPARATE CONTRACT WITH IN THIS CASE ENERGY HARBOR, WHO IS THE SUPPLIER.
SO TH THOSE ARE, THOSE WOULD BE TWO, TWO DIFFERENT CONTRACTS THAT THE CITY IS ACTUALLY UNDER.
SO WHAT WOULD BE OUR ABILITY TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT WITH ENERGY HARBOR AT THE SAME TIME AS WELL? SO THERE WOULDN'T BE, BUT, BUT THEIR CONTRACT THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO EVERGREEN CLAUSE IN THAT ANYWAY.
SO IT WOULD JUST GO WITH THE PROGRAM.
IT WOULD BE MORE OF A, IF YOU DECIDED THAT YOU WANTED TO USE A DIFFERENT CONSULTANT, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO TERMINATE WITH US, OR AT LEAST GIVE US NOTICE THAT YOU'RE TERMINATING AT THE END OF THE TERM, WE'LL SAY, AND THEN YOU'D BE ABLE TO HOLD THAT AT THAT POINT TOO, TO GO FIND ANOTHER CONSULTANT DURING THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, DURING ANY TERM, BUT YOU WOULD STILL, AND THE RESIDENTS WOULD STILL BE UNDER CONTRACT THROUGH W WE'LL CALL IT SEPTEMBER OF TWENTY, TWENTY FIVE.
UM, IF, IF THIS DEAL WAS TAKEN, THEY WOULD STILL BE UNDER THERE, EVEN THOUGH WE TERMINATED THE CONTRACT.
UNLESS THEY CHOOSE TO FIND THEIR FIND OUT.
BUT WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T GO OUT AND SHOP FOR THEMSELVES.
THAT'S WHY I TALKED ABOUT, I THINK THE EDUCATION PIECES, WE HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY, MAKING THE RESIDENTS AWARE THROUGH THEIR WATER BILLS, WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE.
AND EVEN IF WE HAVE TO DO THAT QUARTERLY, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND.
UM, BUT THERE'S STILL A SICK, THERE'S STILL A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO EITHER WOULDN'T DO IT, CAN'T DO IT NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU TRY TO EDUCATE THEM.
SO IF THE DRAPE, IF THE RATE DROPPED TO SEVEN, SIX, WHATEVER, THEN THEY WOULD STILL
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BE LOCKED INTO THE HIGHER RATE.I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S CERTAINLY A RISK BOTH WAYS.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, BUT, SO I THINK THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WAITED EVEN AT THE RECOMMEND THE RECOMMENDATION OF OUR, UM, AGGREGATOR, BUT I THINK AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE A DECISION WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AND TRY TO GET WHAT WE CAN OR SCRAP IT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO THE RATES AND HOPE THEY DON'T GO UP TOO MUCH.
UM, AS I'M SURE YOU'VE DONE YOUR RESEARCH AND HUBER HEIGHTS.
OH, WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF THE HOMES AND NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ALL ELECTRIC? UM, THAT NO, I DO NOT HAVE THAT OFFHAND.
I KNOW I CAN EASILY GET THAT FOR YOU.
UH, MAYOR WOULD, UH, WOULD I BE ABLE TO ASK THE SYDNEY ENGINEER IF HE HAD THOSE NUMBERS? SURE.
RUSS, DO YOU HAVE THOSE NUMBERS? NO.
UM, CAUSE I, I KNOW I'M AN ALL ELECTRIC HOME AND TO S TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE WINTER MONTHS, UM, I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING AT 9.20 CENTS AND THIS IS 8.79 CENTS.
THAT'S THAT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST BARELY A HALF A CENT DIFFERENCE.
UM, AND PLUS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MARKET IS GOING TO DO, WHAT TYPE OF FEDERAL OR GOVERNMENT INTERACTION THAT COULD HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND THE WINTERTIME.
UM, WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OPEC'S GOING TO DO.
I MEAN, THERE'S ALL SORTS OF UNKNOWN.
UM, AND I, AND I BELIEVE I HEARD THE MERIT, THE LAST MEETING AND SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, NEAR A HALF A CENT WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE BENEFICIAL FOR US TO GET INTO.
UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S, AND I DO KNOW WE HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, GAS AND ELECTRIC HOMES IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUT I WOULD BE SHOCKED AT IF IT WOULD, IF IT WAS ANYWHERE CLOSE TO 20% OF OUR COMMUNITY, UM, OUT OF, OUT OF ROUGHLY 14, 15,000 HOUSEHOLDS.
UM, SO I, I PERSONALLY DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE IT IS AND A RISK AS COUNCILMAN BERGE WAS ALLUDING TO, TO GET INTO A 36 MONTH AGREEMENT WHEN THERE'S SO MANY UNKNOWNS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD OF GOVERNMENT AND INTERACTION.
I I'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, OF, YOU KNOW, RAMPING UP OF OPEC.
I MEAN, THERE'S SO MUCH THINGS THAT CAN, WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FED'S GOING TO DO.
UM, AND AS YOU STOOD HERE TONIGHT AND EVEN STATED, AND TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, EVEN YOURSELF SAID THAT 36 MONTH PRICE DOESN'T EXCITE YOU VERY MUCH.
LIKE I DON'T LOVE IT RIGHT THEN, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
I WAS ASKED, I WAS ASKED TO COME WITH PRICES AND I DID, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT CAN HELP, BUT AGAIN, LIKE WE, FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY, I DON'T LOVE IT.
AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT WAS MY HALF A CENT COMMENT WAS IF AES IS A 10.9 AND ALL YOU COULD GET WAS 10.5 OR 10.4 THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE HALF A CENT.
IF THE BED WOULD HAVE BEEN 10.50 CENTS, WHEN AES IS 10.90 CENTS, IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ME TO GET EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
I'M NOT EXCITED ABOUT THIS, BUT I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT TO SAVE A HALF A CENT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
BUT 8.79, THAT'S OVER TO SEVEN MINUTES.
IT'S WELL, OVER TWO SENTENCE, THE, UM, SO THE ALL ELECTRIC HOMES THAT DROPPED TO 9.2, THE 8.79 IS STILL BETTER THAN WHAT THE ALL ELECTRIC HOME IS GOING TO HAVE.
SO WE'RE JUST AT A POINT WHERE WE'RE PLAYING THE STOCK MARKET, RIGHT? WE'RE THE BINDER WE'RE SELLING AND, AND WE'RE TRYING TO HEDGE WHETHER OR NOT PRICES ARE GOING TO GO UP OR WHETHER THE PRICES ARE GOING TO GO DOWN.
AND IT'S A MATTER OF WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE FEELING IN THE NEXT 30 AND 60 AND 90 DAYS AND THEIR ELECTRIC BILLS.
AND IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP EASE THOSE COSTS? UM, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT, BUT CERTAINLY DEFER TO COUNCIL TO MAKE THE DECISION ON WHETHER YOU THINK THAT'S, UH, THAT'S WORTH IT IN THE COMMENTS.
I THINK WE DO NEED TO MAKE A DECISION.
AND ACTION, I THINK IS JUST NOT, I JUST DON'T THINK AS AN OPTION AT THIS POINT.
I THINK A LOT OF THEM IN MY WARD IS THE MIX, BUT THE GAS AND THE ELECTRIC, I, I KNOW MINUS I KNOW A NUMBER OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE, SO I, I THINK THIS WOULD SAVE MY AREA A LOT OF MONEY.
IS IT W IS WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, OR DO YOU THINK THAT 20% OR LESS OR 20% WOULD BE A HIGH NUMBER? WHO'S ALL ELECTRIC? IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING? I, I, I WOULD STRUGGLE TO BELIEVE MAYOR THAT, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST 20% OF OUR COMMUNITY HAS A MIXTURE OF GAS AND ELECTRIC.
THAT'S WHAT A MIXTURE OF GAS AND ELECTRICAL YOU THINK THAT'S THE MAJORITY, IS THAT THE I'M CONFUSED? IS THAT THE 80% OR IS THAT THE 20%? LET ME REWORD IT DIFFERENTLY.
I BELIEVE 80, AT LEAST 80% OF OUR COMMUNITIES, ALL ELECTRIC.
I, SO AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS.
I WOULD THINK THAT'S ON THE HIGH SIDE ONLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE DO SEND THE PERFORMANCE REPORTS EVERY QUARTER.
AND I KNOW THAT THE MIX OF THAT WEIGHTED PRICE IS MUCH CLOSER TO THE MIXTURE
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THAN IT IS JUST THE ALL ELECTRIC HOME.SO, SO I WOULD THINK IT'S, IT'S MUCH HIGHLY WEIGHTED TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALTERNATE SOURCES OF FUEL THAN JUST BEING ALL ELECTRIC.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE OLDER APARTMENT COMMUNITIES, THOSE ARE PROBABLY, THOSE ARE PROBABLY ALL EFFORTS LIKE THE WALL UNITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT RUN OFF ELECTRIC, BUT, UH, IN THE HOMES.
I WOULD THINK THAT, THAT THE MAJORITY, THE VAST MAJORITY HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, GAS AND ELECTRIC.
UM, BUT YEAH, I, AND I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT ANYTHING'S, THAT'S BEEN BUILT, AT LEAST GOING BACK TO 2000 IS PROBABLY MIXED THAT THEY, THAT THEY DON'T USE THE HEAT PUMPS.
THEY USE THE, UM, THE COMBINATION GAS AND ELECTRIC, AND IT MIGHT EVEN GO FURTHER BACK THAN THAT.
BUT I THINK 2000 IS PROBABLY A GOOD GAS.
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE PROBABLY IF THEY HAD ELECTRIC ONLY THEY'VE UPDATED AND REMODELED TO, TO ALLOW TO ALLOW FOR GAS, UH, AT SOME, AT SOME POINT, BECAUSE ALL ELECTRIC DOES GET PRETTY EXPENSIVE IN THE WINTERTIME.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S WHEN I THINK A LOT, A LOT OF PEOPLE PROBABLY HAVE PROBABLY DONE THAT.
NOT SPEAKING TO ANY AUTHORITY ON THAT.
I'M JUST, UM, I'M TRYING TO, I KNOW I HAD A REPORT UP TODAY.
IT WOULD HAVE SHOWED ME THE MIX.
I'M TRYING TO SEE IF IT WAS, BUT, BUT THOSE PEOPLE JUST, BUT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALL ELECTRIC, EVEN IN NOVEMBER WHEN AES PRICE DROPS TO 9.2, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE 8, 7, 9.
IF WE ENTER INTO THIS AGREEMENT,
BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THEY'RE GOING TO PAY 9.20 CENTS COME NOVEMBER.
AND 10.9, IF, IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING ELSE, CORRECT.
SO IT'S 2.20 CENTS, UH, FOR THE COMBO AND THEN ABOUT A HALF A CENT.
AND IT COME NOVEMBER FOR ANYONE WHO HAS, WHO HAS ALL ELECTRIC MARK I'M IN THE CAMP WITH ANITA REGARDING MY RESIDENCE.
I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF GAS AND ELECTRIC.
AND COULD I ASK THEM A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS? SO WE HAVE TWO CONTRACTS, ONE WITH YOU THAT WE CAN GET OUT OF IN 120 DAYS.
IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? BUT IF WE SIGN UP, OKAY, IF WE SIGN UP FOR THE 36 MONTH CONTRACT THAT LASTS 36 MONTHS, CORRECT.
BUT IF THIS RATE ISN'T ATTRACTIVE, THEN THE RESIDENTS CAN OPT OUT.
THAT PROVISION IS IN THERE AT NO COST.
SO MAYOR, IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR DECISION AND, UH, WE CAN LOCK THE RATES AT AS SOON AS TOMORROW.
SO IF YOU'RE ASKING MY OPINION, I WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR THAT.
AND I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR.
I THINK WE'VE WAITED AT THIS POINT.
I THINK WE'VE WAITED LONG ENOUGH.
AND I KNOW THAT EMAILS AND QUESTIONS THAT I'M GETTING, PEOPLE ARE ASKING HER, ARE WE GOING TO DO SOMETHING? UH, AND AGAIN, I THINK, UH, NEXT MONTH, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PEOPLE WHO AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION, YOU MIGHT NOT GET OUT OF THIS CONTRACT OR THEY CAN, I THINK THERE'S JUST AS MANY PEOPLE WHO AREN'T AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THEIR ENERGY RATES.
AND WHEN THEY GET THEIR ELECTRIC BILLS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMPLETELY SHOCKED.
SO, SO IS THERE ANYTHING HAPPENING IN THE WORLD THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE ENERGY COSTS DOWN ANYTIME SOON, IS THERE ANYTHING HAPPENING IN THE WORLD IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THEM STABLE OR UP? SO HIM, I HATE TO MAKE TRADES ON YOUR GUT INSTINCT, RIGHT? BUT THE WAY I'M SEEING THINGS IS PRICE IS SAT LOW FOR A LONG TIME, RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO GENERATE GAS GENERATE POWER, THEY WEREN'T MAKING A LOT OF MONEY NOW FOR MULTIPLE REASONS THAT THAT PRICE CAME UP AND IT FEELS, YOU KNOW, AND THE WAY IT'S TRADED OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, IT FEELS HAPPY THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE MARKET HAS SORT OF DONE THAT.
CAUSE EVEN THESE UPS AND DOWNS, THEY'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT RANGE-BOUND SO, YOU KNOW, CAN IT COME OFF SOME ABSOLUTELY.
BUT I THINK THAT THAT DOWNSIDE IS, IS SOMEWHAT LIMITED.
YOU KNOW, WE, I DON'T THINK WE COME BACK TO THE TWO OR $3 GAS, NATURAL GAS, REALLY, ANYTIME SOON.
I MEAN, IT WAS TRADING AT ROUGHLY AT SIX BUCKS TODAY.
DOES IT COME TO FIVE OR FOUR? YOU KNOW, MAYBE, BUT I DON'T THINK WE GET IT ANYWHERE CLOSE, BUT THE DIP WAS SUCH, I MEAN, IT DIP FROM NINE.
I MEAN, SO, SO, SO NATURAL GAS WAS TRADING $9 AND 50 CENTS TWO WEEKS AGO.
SO, SO THE DIP GOT IT TO KNOW $6 AND THEN IT GOT TO JUST AROUND ACTUALLY ABOUT SIX 20, HE GOT THE SIX BUCKS AND THEN IT WAS UP AGAIN UP TODAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK ESPECIALLY GOING THROUGH THE BALANCE OF THIS YEAR, AS YOU CAN GO THROUGH SUMMER AND INTO THE WINTER, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF THINGS DRIVING IT AGAIN OVER THE NEXT, SAY SIX MONTHS TO SAY THAT THIS THING WANTS TO COME OFF SIGNIFICANTLY BECAUSE HISTORICALLY THE PRICES DO SLOWLY START TO CLIMB THIS TIME OF YEAR.
AND THEN INTO THE WINTER, AS THE MARKET TRIES TO SORT OUT, IS THERE ENOUGH NATURAL GAS
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FOR DEMAND? AND I REMEMBER PARTS OF UBUR HEIGHTS WAS UNAVAILABLE TO HAVE HOMES BUILT WITH GAS AND THEY WERE ALL ELECTRIC DURING THE JIMMY CARTER YEARS IN THE FALL.AND BARDOS AND SO ON AND INTEREST RATES AT 14 AND 15%.
SO I THINK THE INTEREST RATES ARE GOING TO AFFECT THIS AS WELL.
CAUSE IT'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE PRODUCERS AND THE SUPPLIERS IN OTHER WAYS BECAUSE THE ENTIRE COST DOES.
I THINK WHAT HAPPENS TOO, IN JUST A NORMAL MARKET ECONOMY WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY THEN WAS, YOU KNOW, UH, CRAZY ABOUT GAS PRICES AT $4 AND $5.
THEN YOU REACH A POINT WHERE YOU SAY, WELL, IT JUST, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE MARKET AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE WITH ENERGY PRICES AS THE SAME THING, YOU WILL GET TO A POINT WHERE PEOPLE JUST GET USED TO PAYING THAT.
AND NOW THE NEW BAR IS SET AND PEOPLE HAVE THE MINDSET THAT THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY HAVE TO PAY.
SO I THINK THAT WILL DRIVE PRICES HIGHER OR LEVEL MORE THAN, THAN A DIP BECAUSE THE DIP WILL JUST BE A FAVOR TO THE PEOPLE THAT WON'T BE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ECONOMICS OF THE, OF THE SUPPLIERS, UM, AND THE, AND THE CORPORATIONS, BECAUSE THEY'RE SETTING A NEW STANDARD THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET USED TO BECAUSE WHAT'S, WHAT IS YOUR ALTERNATIVE? WELL, AGAIN, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T LOVE THE, I THINK WE WOULD FEEL MUCH WORSE THAN A YEAR FROM NOW.
IF THE PRICE WAS 6 CENTS AND PEOPLE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT THAN IF WE'RE SITTING HERE IN THE PRICES 11 OR 12 CENTS AGAIN, AND WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT AND WE DIDN'T LOVE IT A YEAR AGO.
UH, WELL, WHEN I WAS HERE IN OCTOBER AND IT WAS 5.60 CENTS, WELL, I MEAN, AT THAT POINT, IT JUST, IT WAS MORE OF A, WE KNEW GOING INTO THE WINTER THAT THE, THAT THE OLD ELECTRIC HOME WAS GONNA PAY 4.20 CENTS.
SO HOW CAN I STAY HERE AND SAY THE 5.6 LOOKS GREAT WHEN WE KNOW THE ALL ELECTRIC HOME WAS GONNA PAY 4.2, EVERYBODY ELSE WAS GOING TO PAY 4.8 AND WE HAD NO TRANSPARENCY AT ALL TO WHAT AES IS RATES WERE GOING TO BE.
CAUSE THE AUCTIONS DON'T RUN UNTIL IN MARCH.
AND IN THIS CASE THEY WENT MARCH AND APRIL.
SO YEAH, I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT 5.6 BACK FROM LAST OCTOBER, BUT NO, I, I COULDN'T MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE WE HAD NO CLUE WHAT WAS THE CALL WE'RE OFFERING NO PROGRAM NOW.
AND IF YOU OFFER THE PROGRAM, EVERYONE COULD OPT OUT.
I'D HATE TO BE SITTING HERE AND 15 MONTHS SAYING WHY I WISH YOU WOULD HAVE TOOK 8.7 CAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT 15 CENTS.
MA'AM ONE LAST QUESTION TO CLARIFY.
I'M IN FAVOR OF GOING WITH 8.79.
AND IF PEOPLE WANT TO OPT OUT, THEY CAN, BUT AT LEAST WE'RE TRYING TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS AND I'M WILLING TO DO AN EDUCATION PIECE, WHETHER IT'S HERE, PAL ROAD, COMMUNITY CENTER, SENIORS, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO TRY TO EDUCATE THEM, TO HELP THEM DO APPLES AND APPLES AND HELP THEM FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.
SO, UH, MY NEXT QUESTION THEN WOULD BE TO TONY.
IS THERE ANY OTHER QUITE YOU'RE DONE? YES.
SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE RISK WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS IT, THE BOTTOM DROPS OUT OF ENERGY PROMISES AND WE'RE LOOKING AT 4.6 SOMETIME DURING THIS CONTRACT, UNLIKELY, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE RISK.
SO IF THAT IS THE RISK, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS CONTRACT THAT WOULD PREVENT THE CITY FROM REACHING OUT TO OUR CITIZENS ON A GLOBAL SCALE TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY SHOULD REALLY GET OUT OF THIS CONTRACT THAT THE CITY HAS AGGREGATED INTO? YEAH, NO.
SO, SO THAT'S SORT OF THE, THAT'S ONE OF THE CATCHES, RIGHT? IT'S A, IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE ON I THINK, EDUCATION AND TELLING SOMEBODY TO, TO BREAK A CONTRACT.
SO, SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE, UH, YOU COULD BE CREATIVE ABOUT THE EDUCATION BUT, BUT NOT FLAT OUT SAY, WELL, I THINK YOU SHOULD LEAVE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE CITIES IS UNDER CONTRACT AT THAT POINT.
AGAIN, MY CONCERN JUST MITIGATING THEIR RISK DOWN IN THE PARK.
SHOULD SOMETHING HAPPEN LIKE THAT? SO AS LONG AS PEOPLE CAN BE MADE AWARE, WELL, IT'S A LOT CHEAPER.
IF YOU GO OUT AND LOOK ON YOUR OWN, I'M OKAY WITH THIS.
UH, AGAIN, THE TERM WAS BROUGHT UP LAST TIME, STOP THE BLEEDING SEVERAL TIMES.
I THINK WE HAVE TO DO THAT QUARTERLY.
AND THE RATE I HAVE RIGHT NOW IS VERY CLOSE TO THIS 36 MONTHS.
UM, SO, AND, AND WHEN I GET ASKED ABOUT THIS, HOW DO YOU SEARCH, I'VE ACTUALLY DONE A SNAPSHOT OF, OF THE, UH, PUC O PAGE, THE ENERGY CHOICE PAGE AND MARKED WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE
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IN ORDER TO GET ALL THEIR OFFSHOOTS, DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY WANT TO GO.12 MONTHS, 36, 48, WHATEVER IT IS.
AND I THINK WE COULD DO SOMETHING SIMILAR LIKE THAT TO, TO EDUCATE PEOPLE, TO KIND OF GIVE THEM A TEMPLATE TO FOLLOW IF THEY WANT TO PURSUE IT ON, ON THE INTERNET, OR IF THEY HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CAN HELP THEM DO THAT.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO REACH EVERYBODY, BUT IF WE CAN HELP A LARGE NUMBER, THEN I THINK WE'RE DOING THEM A SERVICE.
SO MY NEXT QUESTION, I GUESS, WOULD BE TO, TO TONY AND TO JERRY, DOES IT FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF LEGISLATION, W WE DON'T HAVE LEGISLATION PREPARED TONIGHT CAUSE THERE'S NO CONTRACT.
SO IS IT, IS IT POSSIBLE? SO WHAT, WHAT WOULD A, WHAT WOULD A EMOTION AND A VOTE TONIGHT IF IT PASSED? WHAT WOULD THAT BE? WOULD THAT BE TO DIRECT, UH, JERRY TO DRAFT THE CONTRACT BASED ON TOMORROW'S REFRESH RATE? I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT DO WE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO NOW, IF TOMORROW WHAT'S IT LIKE TOMORROW'S REFRESH RATE IS ALL OF A SUDDEN 9.4.
UH, SO AGAIN, I FULFILLED FULL TRANSPARENCY.
I ACTUALLY DID GROSS UP THESE NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT.
SO I'M HOPING THAT GROSS UP WAS AT OR HIGHER THAN WHAT THE REFRESHES IS THAT MAYBE WE CAN COME IN A LITTLE BIT LOWER.
I CAN'T MAKE THAT PROMISE, BUT I TRIED TO ACCOUNT FOR THE FACT THAT WE ALREADY KNEW THE MARKET WAS UP TODAY.
THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT, IF IT WAS A FIVE POINT, I'M SORRY, 8.8, THAT THAT'S LESS STICKER SHOCK FROM YOU THAN IF I CAME HERE AT 5.6.
SO FROM A LEGISLATION PERSPECTIVE, HOW DO WE ENACT LEGISLATION AND THE CONTRACT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A RATE QUICK ENOUGH WITH, WITH KIND OF THE RATES THAT WE'VE GOT IN FRONT OF US, WHAT WOULD WHAT'S THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? NOT ME DRAFTING THE CONTRACT, CAUSE WHOEVER WE CONTRACT WITH IS GOING TO HAVE A CONTRACT AND THAT'S THEIR CONTRACT.
I MEAN, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF WIGGLE ROOM AT ALL IN THERE.
WE JUST, I WOULD BE REVIEWING IT TO MAKE SURE IT HAS OPT OUT PROVISIONS, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU NEED TO LOCK IN RATES, BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NO LEGISLATION, SO WE CAN'T ADOPT ANYTHING.
UM, BUT THE ONLY THING WOULD BE TO DIRECT, TO LOCK INTO A RATE.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S YOU HAVE FLEXIBILITY OF DOING, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU NEED TO LOCK IN.
SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, ENERGY HARBOR WOULD WANT, YOU KNOW, WHAT VOTE OR WHATEVER IT IS TO SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THEY SUPPOSE A PUBLIC VOTE.
SO I WOULD THINK WE COULD PROBABLY HAVE SOME WIGGLE ROOM IF YOU LET'S JUST SAY, IF YOU VOTED ON IT, NOW I COULD PROBABLY CALL AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THEY VOTED ON IT.
I LEFT A DRAFT CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD KNOW FIRST THING IN THE MORNING KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE'LL REFRESH, SEE IF THE PRICES ARE STILL AND IF, SORRY, AND IF I CAN MAKE, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES, UM, THAT HAVE HAD THAT HAVE USED AT, OR BELOW LANGUAGE.
I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT LAST TIME, BECAUSE THAT GAVE THE FLEXIBILITY THAT, THAT AS A COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME, CAN VOTE TO AT LEAST KNOW WHAT YOUR CEILING IS, BUT IT GIVES THAT LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE ROOM THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT HAPPENS TO MOVE UP OR DOWN AT ALL THAT AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOUR CEILING, YOU, WHAT, WHAT YOU WERE WILLING TO SET YOUR CEILING AT TO THEN GIVE TIME TO, YOU KNOW, WORK OUT CONTRACTS AND, AND TO DO YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF STUFF, JERRY, WOULD THAT BE YOUR RECOMMENDATION OR, OR SUFFICIENT TO, UH, COUNSEL GAVE A CEILING RATE, THEN ONCE YOU LEAVE THAT CONTRACT, JERRY IT'S OKAY.
WHAT OUR VOTE WOULD, WE NEED TO COME BACK AND THEN PASS LEGISLATION WITH THAT RESOLUTION FOR THE CONTRACT.
SO THEN WE COULD, UM, IF THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, IF A VOTE TOOK PLACE AND IT PASSED WOULD, IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH TO HONOR THAT UNTIL WE FORMALIZE THE RE THE LEGISLATION AT THE NEXT MEETING? SO, SO I THINK AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO SAY PUNT THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING, TO GET THINGS FINALIZED, WE CAN GET PAPERWORK SQUARED AWAY.
I CAN WORK WITH THE SUPPLIER, YOU KNOW, TO SAY, AND THEN AT THAT POINT IT'S PRETTY MUCH LIKE, ALL RIGHT, THEY ARE GOING TO EXECUTE.
THEY EITHER ARE, OR ARE NOT GOING TO EXECUTE TONIGHT BASED ON PRICE.
AND YOU WOULD KNOW THAT PRICE, YOU KNOW, AT THAT TIME THAT YOU BE ABLE TO EXECUTE ON.
AND I THINK I'D BE ABLE TO GET THEM, EVEN THOUGH THEY TYPICALLY LIKE IT BEFORE MARKET CLOSE.
BUT IF I SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD I'LL KNOW BY SIX OR SEVEN O'CLOCK WHETHER IT'S A YES VOTE, YOU KNOW, I THINK AT THAT POINT I CAN GET THEM TO HOLD IT.
SO TONY, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO YOU.
SO HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU SEE THIS MOVING FORWARD FROM A, JUST FROM A ALONG WITH JERRY SAID, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EVENTUALLY HAVE A RESOLUTION ADOPT CONTRACT.
UM, IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE SOME GUIDANCE BY A MOTION TO DIRECT ENERGY ALLIANCES AS THE AGGREGATION CONSULTANT TO BEGIN THIS PROCESS AND TO DIRECT, UH, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TO WORK WITH THEM IN THE REVIEW AND PREPARATION OF THE DOCUMENTS TO SET THE FOUNDATION FOR THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
SO THAT COULD CAUSE A MOTION TO DIRECT RATHER THAN HAVE A VOTE.
AND THEN THE VOTE WOULD COME AT THE NEXT
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MEETING WITH THE RESOLUTION.WOULD IT BE KIND OF LIKE A MOTION OF INTENT TONIGHT TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION WHILE THE FOUNDATIONAL PIECES WERE PUT TOGETHER FOR A FORMAL VOTE, UH, ON, UH, JULY 11TH WOULD BE THE NEXT.
AND, AND, AND THAT, THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION IS WHEN WOULD THAT VOTE? CAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S ENOUGH TIME, BUT THAT'S CUTTING IT VERY CLOSE FOR THAT SEPTEMBER STAR.
CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DO THAT 21 DAY OPT-OUT WINDOW.
SO YOU HAVE TO KIND OF BACK THINGS OUT BY ABOUT 45 DAYS.
SO TWO WEEKS FROM TONIGHT, WOULD YOU LIE? SO JULY 11TH WOULD BE, THE NIGHT WOULD BE THE MEETING THAT THE CONTRACT WOULD BE THE OFFICIAL VOTE OF APPROVING THE LEGISLATION FOR THE CONTRACT.
AND AGAIN, IF THAT, IF THAT'S THE, WE CAN GO DOWN THAT PATH AND YOU CAN DECIDE EVEN ON THAT DAY, OKAY.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE OUT, RIGHT? LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMMIT AT THAT POINT EITHER, BUT WE CAN GO DOWN THAT PROCESS.
I CAN CALL THEM AS SOON AS I LEAVE HERE AND SAY, HEY, THIS, THIS IS THE GAME PLAN AND WE CAN START THAT.
SO AS YOU RETAIN A MOTION TO, UH, TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER AND THE, UH, LAW DIRECTOR TO, UM, TO BEGIN THAT NEGOTIATION PROCESS DOWN, DOWN THAT PATH BASED ON THE, UH, 36 MONTHS RATE THAT WE'VE SEEN TODAY, ANYTHING YES.
W I'M SORRY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, DO WE NEED TO SET THAT WHAT YOU CALLED? LIKE THE CEILING, THE NO LOWER THAN, OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE THE 8 79 ARE WE GOING TO BE SAYING TONIGHT, WE WANT THIS MOTION AND IT'S GOING TO BE AT 8 79 AND IF IT'S 9 0 1.
WELL, HONESTLY I THINK IF, IF YOU HAVE TO WAIT A COUPLE OF WEEKS ANYWAY, I THINK YOU PRETTY MUCH SAY, OKAY, ENERGY ALLIANCES, CONTINUE TO GO DOWN THE PROCESS AND THEN YOU'LL KNOW FOR YOUR MEETING, WHAT THAT PRICE IS.
AND I THINK AT THAT POINT YOU COULD VOTE ON BASICALLY WHAT THE RAIDERS WE HAVE ON THE DAY THAT THE RESOLUTION WOULD BE PAST.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MOTION WAS GOING TO BE FOR A CERTAIN PRICE OR A PRICE RANGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THOUGHT HE JUST, I THOUGHT YOU JUST SAID THAT WE COULD LOCK IN TOMORROW AND THEN, WELL, THAT THAT'S, IF THAT'S, IF WE HAD A CONTRACT SIGNED FOR THEM AND AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT OUR RULES, THAT'S THEIR RULES.
SO, BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE GO TO THE TWO WEEKS AND YOU DON'T LIKE THE PRICE THAT COMES BACK, THEN AT THAT POINT, YOU JUST, SO HOW SOCIETY, I MEAN, LOOK, THIS IS ORDER A POINT WHERE I'M AT EVEN CALL A SPECIAL MEETING TO TAKE CARE OF THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE THAT CAME DOWN TO LOCKING IN A SPECIFIC RATE.
HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO REVIEW A CONTRACT TO SAY, THIS IS IT, THIS IS THE RATE.
AND THEN FOR US TO COME HERE FOR FIVE MINUTES AND PASS THAT RESOLUTION TO BE DONE, I'VE FALLEN OUT OF THE WORD SECTION, HAVING A SPECIAL MEETING.
SO THAT WOULD JUST, SO WE COULD DO THAT NEXT TUESDAY.
WE COULD ADVERTISE A SPECIAL MEETING PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF A WORK SESSION, UM, AND THEN ADDRESS IT THEN.
SO THAT WOULD CUT A WEEK OFF OF THAT.
UM, I THINK, I MEAN, I WOULD, IF YOU NEED A NUMBER, I WOULD SAY 9 CENTS.
RICHARD, I JUST HAVE TO ASK, UM, IF I MAY REACH, WHEN DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU WERE GOING TO COME HERE AND SPEAK TONIGHT? UM, I THINK IT WAS LAST WEEK.
I BELIEVE WE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT WE WERE GOING TO MAKE A, AN UP OR DOWN DECISION.
AND I W I WAS REALLY OPEN THAT YOU WERE COMING AT LEAST IN MY, THROUGH OUR CONVERSATION AT THE WORK SESSION THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE NUMBERS.
AND WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A CONTRACT READY TO GO UP OR DOWN, UM, BECAUSE I'M NOT COMFORTABLE.
UM, BECAUSE AS ONE COUNCIL MEMBER, I'VE GOTTEN BURNED, MANY TIMES OF VOTING ON SOMETHING WITHOUT A CONTRACT IN HAND AND WRITTEN DETAILS.
I CAN'T GIVE A BLESSING TONIGHT WITH AN UPPER DOWN GO, NO, GO WITHOUT SEEING NUMBERS IN HAND, IF YOU WOULD HAVE HAD A CONTRACT IN FRONT OF ME WITH EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD, EVEN WITH MY INTERNAL DISCUSSION, I WOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU MY BLESSING ON THAT 8 79 IS ONE COUNCIL MEMBER.
BUT WITHOUT THAT CONTRACT HERE WITHOUT THE LAW DIRECTOR REVIEWING IT, I CAN'T DO THAT.
NOW, IF WE CAN HAVE THE CONTRACT IN THE LAW, DIRECTOR'S HANDS CIRCULATED THE COUNCIL, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT A FOR PUBLIC VIEW AND COME IN HERE AND SPEND FIVE MINUTES ON A FRIDAY EVENING, THURSDAY EVENING, WEDNESDAY EVENING, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
UM, I THINK TUESDAY'S TOO LONG.
I WAS EXPECTING WE WERE GOING TO HAVE THAT TONIGHT.
I'M OKAY DOING A SPECIAL MEETING AS SOON AS WE HAVE IT, BUT I THINK, UH, BUT ANY ACTION TONIGHT IS NON-BINDING BECAUSE THERE IS NO RESOLUTION.
SO IF YOU WERE IN FAVOR OF DIRECTING LAW DIRECTOR AND CITY MANAGER TO WORK WITH THEM TO GET THIS DONE, AND IT CAME BACK TWO DAYS FROM NOW WHEN WE HAD THE CONTRACT, BUT THE RATE WAS 9.2, YOU VOTE UP, I WOULD SAY MEAN, SO ANY ACTION TONIGHT IS JUST DONE BY MOTION TO DIRECT.
IT IS NOT A BINDING PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
AND AS HE SAID, AND EVEN RIGHT UP TO THE POINT OF HAVING THE CONTRACT, WHEN THAT MEETING IS, WE COULD JUST GO, YEAH, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE UNINTERESTING OTHER THINGS.
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SO I THINK AT THIS POINT IT WOULD JUST BE, UH, SHOWING OUR FAVOR TO MOVE DOWN THE DIRECTION OF, OF A CONTRACT.AND AS SOON AS THE CONTRACT'S AVAILABLE AND THE RATES AVAILABLE, UH, AGAIN, WE CAN HAVE A MEETING COME HERE AND SPEND FIVE MINUTES CALLED VOTE AND BE DONE.
UM, AND IF THE RATE ISN'T GOOD, WE CAN SAY NO, UH, MAYOR, I BELIEVE YOU MENTIONED I RATE OF 9 CENTS.
ANYTHING OVER THAT 9 CENTS OR ABOVE WOULD BE A NO GO FOR YOU.
DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? I THINK IF WE, IF WE HAD TO HAVE A CEILING, I THINK, YEAH.
CAUSE SOMETIME OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, IF IT'S UP ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, 0.20 CENTS.
I MEAN, THAT'S, IF WE HAVE TO HAVE A NUMBER, UM, TO PUT IN THE LEGISLATION, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE DO, IF WE CAN GET IT BACK QUICKLY, IF THE, IF THE, IF THE INTENT OF COUNCILS TO MOVE DOWN THAT PATH AND WE CAN GET THE CONTRACT AND A RATE IN THE NEXT 48 HOURS, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A MEETING IN THE NEXT 48 HOURS TO EITHER APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE BASED ON WHAT THE LOCKDOWN RATE WOULD BE.
AND THEN COUNCIL COULD DECIDE AT THAT POINT, IF WE WERE TRYING TO HEDGE THIS FOR WHAT THE LEGISLATION WAS GOING TO READ, AND WE HAD TO PUT A NUMBER IN IT, THEN I THINK 9 CENTS IS WHERE I WOULD BE, LET'S JUST MEET.
SO, UM, BUT I THINK, I THINK WE SHOULD SOME MOVE DOWN THAT PATH AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT.
AS SOON AS THE CONTRACT AND THE RATE IS AVAILABLE, WE HAVE A MEETING AND WE'D LOCK IT IN AND WE MOVE ON KATE, CAN WE DO A MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT AND EMERGENCY? IT JUST DEPENDS.
I'LL, WE'LL DO IT AS SOON AS WE NEED TO, AS SOON AS WE HAVE THE CONTRACT AND JERRY REVIEWS AND SAYS, OKAY, YEAH, I MEAN, AS I SAID, I, I HAVE A CONTRACT IN HAND, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR REVIEW.
AND I CAN OBVIOUSLY CALL THEM AND SAY, THE LEGISLATION HAS PREPARED RIGHT NOW TO MAKE IT BINDING LEGISLATION.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHAT HAS TO BE DONE.
JERRY HAS REVIEWED THE CONTRACT HERE.
IT IS PREPARED THE LEGISLATION AND THEN WE'D SHOW UP AND VOTE IN THE LEGISLATION.
AND IF IT'S DONE TOMORROW, WE'LL COME BACK TOMORROW.
I CAN MAKE FIVE 30 RICHARD, ONE OTHER POINT MAYOR.
UM, I WOULD HOPE AT OUR NEXT WORK SESSION, UM, OUR COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR AND A CITY MANAGER WOULD HAVE A, SOME SORT OF A BULLET POINTED PLAN, UH, FOR AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM, UH, THAT WE CAN GET OUT TO THE RESIDENTS ASAP.
UH, IF, IF WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, UM, I'D LIKE TO HAVE AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE THAT STARTED, UM, AFTER THE END OF THE NEXT WORK SESSION ON PROPER OPT-IN OPT-OUT PROCEDURES.
UM, AND, AND RICHARD, I'M SURE YOUR GROUP, UH, YOU KNOW, HAS GOT SOME MEDIA CAMPAIGN MATERIALS OR, YOU KNOW, COULD, COULD SHARE WITH US AND MOVE US FORWARD.
UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.
UM, I'D LIKE TO GET SOME TOWN HALL MEETINGS SCHEDULED, UH, SOME COMMUNICATIONS WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, UM, ASAP F IF WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GOING TO START IN SEPTEMBER, UH, AND BE EFFECTIVE WITH THE OCTOBER BILL, UH, THAT MEANS OUR RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO AT LEAST THREE BILLING CYCLES OF SOME VERY PAINFUL ACTIVITY BEFORE THIS TAKES PLACE.
KATIE, COULD YOU WORK WITH, UH, WITH SARAH? OH, BECAUSE BRIAN BEING ON THIS WEEK, SO WORK WITH SARAH, IF YOU COULD PLEASE GET WITH, UM, SARAH, ANY MATERIALS THAT YOU HAVE THAT WOULD HELP HER DEVELOP AND BUILD SOME BIG, YOU KNOW, BRIAN'S GOING BACK ON MONDAY, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S TUESDAY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AND THEN RUSSELL, YOU ALSO, SO AT THAT POINT, BRIAN'S ME WALKING INTO THIS GOING, WHAT, SO THIS WEEK, KATIE, I THINK IF YOU CAN WORK WITH, WITH THE, UH, WITH SARAH AND RUSS AND MAKE SURE WE GOT SOME MATERIALS AS RICHARD SUGGESTED THAT CAN WORK ON THE EDUCATION PIECE OF THIS.
I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT HAS TO HAPPEN.
WE'RE AT, WE'RE IN UNCHARTERED TERRITORY.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO THE EXTRA MILE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
ANYTHING, WHEN WE FIRST ENTERED INTO THIS PROGRAM, YOU PROVIDED SOME EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS, SHOULD YOU? YEP.
SO AGAIN, WE CAN LOOK TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, REFRESH THINGS.
IT'S A PRETTY STATIC THING ON HOW THEY RUN, BUT YEAH, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAD FROM FOUR YEARS AGO AND THEN A YEAR AGO AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IF NEEDED THINGS WOULD'VE CHANGED EXCEPT THE RATE.
SO YOU HAVE THE CONTRACT WITH YOU CREDIT.
SO THAT WAS MY, THAT WAS MY ASK.
SO YOU WANT ME TO DO THE CONTRACT, RIGHT? JERRY? HOW SOON CAN YOU HAVE THIS READY AND RESOLUTION PREPARED FOR US TO HAVE A MEETING? COULD WE DO THIS TOMORROW? THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE ANOTHER LAWYER BECAUSE I HAVE MEDIATION ALL DAY TOMORROW, BUT I COULD PROBABLY FIND SOMEONE IN MY FIRM IF HE WANTED IT TOMORROW.
OTHERWISE IT HAVE TO BE WEDNESDAY COUNSEL.
AND ANOTHER LAWYER TOMORROW, JERRY, ON WEDNESDAY, WEDNESDAY'S MORE REASONABLE AS FAR AS LOGISTICALLY.
AND THEN WE CAN ADVERTISE THE 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE FIRST.
SO, SO WHEN, SO WHEN I SUPPOSE SPECIAL MEETING ON WEDNESDAY.
WEDNESDAY, UH, WE HAVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MEETING ON WEDNESDAY AT SIX.
AND, UM, WE CAN DO AN EARLY MEETING, BUT I MEAN, A CAKE'S AVAILABLE WEDNESDAY.
HOW ABOUT THURSDAY? HE GIVES EVERYBODY JUST A LITTLE BIT, YOU WOULD NEED FIVE PEOPLE TO BE PRESENT AND VOTING AND THE PERMANENT
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I'M GOING TO BE HERE WEDNESDAY, NOON THREE O'CLOCK, FOUR O'CLOCK.CAN YOU DO WEDNESDAY THOUGH? I GUESS WE'LL CALL A SPECIAL MEETING WEDNESDAY AT FIVE 30.
AND I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, AND I DON'T HEAR ANY OTHER MAJORITY OBJECTION TO NOT MOVE, MOVE DOWN THIS PATH, UH, FOR CONTRACT REVIEW AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A RESOLUTION AND WE'LL HAVE A MEETING ON THURSDAY.
SO, UM, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE AT LEAST THAT HOPEFULLY IT'S ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR YOU TO GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH THEM AND SAY, HEY, LOOK, I THINK THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE HEADED.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE MOVE ON? YES.
I WOULD SAY ONE THING ON OUR WEBSITE, UNDER THE ENGINEERING SECTION, WE HAVE ENERGY AGGREGATION SPELLED OUT THERE, HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS.
WE CAN ADD TO THAT ABOUT AN OPT-OUT PROCESS.
IS THERE SOMETHING WE COULD DO ON THE WEBSITE TO MAKE THAT LINK MORE PREDOMINANT? WE CAN PUT IT ON THE FRONT.
SO IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR AWHILE WHILE THIS IS HAPPENING, THAT'S MORE PREDOMINANT IS JUST A VERY EASY, QUICK LINK ON THE FRONT HOMEPAGE TO GET PEOPLE TO, TO THAT INFORMATION.
IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN MOVE THAT STRAIGHT TO THE FRONT PAGE ON OUR TICKER OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS WHERE IT'S, I DON'T WANT IT HARD FOR PEOPLE TO FIND JUST, OH, THERE IT IS.
ANYTHING ELSE? DO YOU WANT TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE MOTION? BECAUSE WE HAD A FIRST ON THE MOTION, BUT THEN WE WENT OFF OF THAT.
SO, WELL, I THINK IT WAS, WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DIRECT AND THEN THERE WASN'T A MAJORITY OBJECTION.
SO I THINK IT WAS JUST TO GIVE HIM CONFIDENCE THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE MOVING.
WE'RE MOVING DOWN THAT PATH, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE EMOTION FOR HIM TO, TO INITIATE THE CONTRACT.
UM, JUST CAUSE NORMALLY IF WE HAVE RUSSIAN WITH THE FIRST INSIGHT, WE WOULD TAKE A FORMAL VOTE ON THAT.
I DIDN'T, I HAD NEVER RECORDED A SECOND.
SO IF SOMEONE MADE A SECOND, I MISSED THAT.
SO BE THE SECOND RICHARD AND WHOEVER, IF YOU, IF YOU BELIEVE WHEN YOU HAVE A FORMAL VOTE, THEN YOU THEN YES.
ASK, WELL, WHAT WOULD THE, SO THE, AND THIS IS JUST DIRECTIONAL.
IT'S GIVING DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL AS A TO STEPS LEADING UP TO THIS SPECIAL MEETING ON WEDNESDAY.
SO THAT MOTION DOES PASS THE SEVEN TO ZERO.
SO WE HAD THE INFORMATION, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTRACT, JERRY, THE RESOLUTION, UM, THIS WEEK, KATIE WORK WITH SARAH AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING SOME OF THE RIGHT EDUCATIONAL PIECES TOGETHER.
SO WE CAN KIND OF START THAT EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN.
AND THEN, UH, WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING AT FIVE 30 ON THURSDAY.
THAT WAS THURSDAY, THURSDAY, 5 38.
WE THOUGHT SOME OF THE DAYS, WEDNESDAY, WEDNESDAY, WEDNESDAY, FIVE 30, WEDNESDAY, FIVE 30TH.
THIS PART OF THE DIOCESE COMPLETELY ABSENT, RIGHT.
WEDNESDAY, FIVE 30, EVERY WEDNESDAY, FIVE 30.
THERE WILL BE AT LEAST FIVE MEMBERS.
PLEASE SEND THAT EMAIL AND JUST, UH, DO YOU NEED ME TO ATTEND AGAIN BY, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S A FORMALITY FOR OUR POINT, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO ATTEND, UM, MIGHT BE GOOD JUST TO REASSURE US.
THAT'S THE BEST RATE WE'RE GOING TO GET.
I WILL BE HERE IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT OUT OF THAT, I WILL FIND A BEER.
[ An Ordinance Amending Ordinance No. 2021-O-2511 By Making Supplemental Appropriations For Expenses Of The City Of Huber Heights, Ohio For The Period Beginning January 1, 2022 And Ending December 31, 2022. (first reading)]
OKAY.NEXT UP IS ITEM 11, D I HAVE AN 11 D AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 0 2 1 DAY.
I SHOWED US 2 5, 1, 1 BY MAKING SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR EXPENSES OF THE CITY OF NEW BRIGHTS, OHIO FOR THE PERIOD BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2022 AND ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2022 WITH THE FIRST STREET, KATIE.
YES, THE SITE DOESN'T MISS TO MAKE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS TO THE BUDGET FOR EXPENSES AND A TOTAL OF $203,300.
AND THE WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO WAVE THE SECOND READING AND ADOPT THE ITEM.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TOY OF ANY DISCUSSION ON, ON, ON WAIT, WAS IT, CAN I BE REMINDED ON WHAT THE, WHAT THE PURPOSE OF WAVING THE SECOND READING? WAS IT, WAS IT, WAS IT, WAS THERE A TIME RESTRAINT ON THIS? I WANT TO SAY PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE CAD THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE NEW VENDOR NOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS, SO IT WAS A TIME ISSUE AND IT WAS CODE RED AND FOR FUEL, THOSE WERE THE THREE ITEMS. OKAY.
SO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO WAVE.
UH, I'M NOT SEEING DISCUSSION TONY CALLED OLD.
TWO-WAY THE SECOND READING PLEASE.
MOTION TO WAVE CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT MR. WEBB? MOVE TO A DOCK, SIR.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION PLEASE? MR. WEBB.
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MR. CAMPBELL.MRS. BERG, MR. OTTO, THIS IS KITCHEN MOTION.
UH, ADOPTED CARE ALSO CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.
[ A Resolution Amending Resolution No. 2021-R-7065 To Authorize An Increase In The Not To Exceed Amounts For Diesel Fuel And Gasoline. (first reading)]
AND NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 11 E ITEM 11 E A RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2 0 2 1 DASH R DASH 7 0 6 5 TO AUTHORIZE AN INCREASE IN THE, NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNTS FOR DIESEL FUEL AND GASOLINE FIRST STREET.THIS ITEM IS TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF THE DO NOT OR NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT FOR DIESEL AND GASOLINE DUE TO THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN BOTH.
KEN WORKS AT YOUR RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION.
IS THEIR EMOTION NANCY MOVED TO ADOPT.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION MR. SHAW? YES.
MR. WEB MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.
[ A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into An Agreement To Expand Thomas Cloud Park By Nine Acres. (first reading)]
THE NEXT IS ITEM 11 F ITEM 11 HALF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT TO EXPAND THOMAS CLOUD PARK BY NINE ACRES AT THE FIRST STREET.THIS ITEM IS TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO BEGIN ACQUIRING A NINE ACRE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE TIME CLOUD PARK.
FOR THE PURPOSE OF INCREASING THE AREA FOR RECREATION ACTIVITIES.
IS THERE A MOTION MAYOR LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THIS? I THINK I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION MS. BAKER? YES.
[ A Resolution Declaring It Necessary To Improve Public Streets And Easements In Section 2 - Phase 5 And Section 7 - Phase 5 By Constructing And Installing Certain Public Infrastructure Improvements, Including Street Improvements, Subbase, Concrete Curb/Gutter With Drainage, Asphalt, Street Lights And Signs, Sidewalk, Survey Work And Engineering, And In Each Case, All Other Costs And Improvements Necessary And Appurtenant Thereto. (first reading)]
11, G 11 G A RESOLUTION DECLARING IT NECESSARY TO IMPROVE THE PUBLIC STREETS AND EASEMENTS AND SECTION TWO PHASE FIVE AT SECTION SEVEN, PHASE FIVE, BY CONSTRUCTING AND INSTALLING CERTAIN PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING STREET IMPROVEMENTS.SUB-BASE CONCRETE CURB GUTTER WITH DRAINAGE, ASPHALT STREET LIGHTS AND SIGNS, SIDEWALK, SURVEY, WORK, AND ENGINEERING IN EACH CASE, ALL OTHER COSTS AND IMPROVEMENTS NECESSARY.
WITH THE FIRST STREET, THE WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION.
UH, IS THERE A MOTION OR A SECOND? I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AFTER DISCUSSING LAST WEEK THAT WE HAD CONCERNING SOME OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT PROGRAMS AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REDUCE THEM DOWN, UM, DUE TO COST, UH, I THINK THIS MILLION DOLLARS GOING TO A NEW DEVELOPMENT IS, UH, UM, CERTAINLY NOT AS IMPORTANT AS TAKING CARE OF OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEREFORE I HAVE TO BE AN OPPOSITION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, ANITA? I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MR. OTTO.
UM, THIS PAST WEEK WE HAD OVER A HUNDRED CITIZENS ON WARD FOUR THAT HAD WATER MAIN BREAKS, AND WE NEED TO SPEND THAT MONEY REPLAY, REPLACING THOSE LINES THAT WE HAD SAID, WE RUN A REPLACE AND NOT USE THIS MILLION DOLLARS TOWARD THIS FANCY, UH, WE'VE ALREADY SAID, WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THOSE LINES.
IS IT SO JERRY AND THIS LINES IS THIS JUST THE KIND OF THE PASTOR JUST GOT APPROVAL.
THIS MONEY IS NOT SPENDING, SPENDING ANY MONEY ON THIS.
YEAH, IT'S A, IT'S A, I THINK THE CALM, REVERSE ASSESSMENTS WHERE THE CITY ASSESSES, THE DEVELOPER BUILDS THE ROADS AND PUTS IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND THEN AS THE ASSESSMENTS COME IN, THE CITY COLLECTS IT AND THEN REPAYS THE DEVELOPER FOR THAT.
BUT THE CITY IS NOT OUT OF POCKET.
IT'S THE HOMEOWNERS THAT PAY THE ASSESSMENTS.
THAT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE AS WELL FOR ADMINISTERING THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS.
AND LITERALLY SAYS, DEC HAS REQUESTED THE CITY PROVIDE FUNDING AND THE AMOUNT OF 1 MILLION, $16,000, WHICH IS $8,000 PER LOT FOR THE 127 LOTS PROPOSED FOR CONSTRUCTION.
HOW HAVE WE DONE? IT WAS THROUGH SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS THOUGH THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER PAYS.
EVERY OTHER MONEY IS THROUGH SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS, BUT WE PUT IT OUT.
AND, UM, THE LEGISLATION ITSELF IS NOT, IT IS THE REVERSED ASSESSMENT.
IT SAYS RIGHT THERE ON THE SUMMARY WHEN IT SAYS, OKAY, SO MAYBE TO MAKE THIS CLEAR, IS THE SPIT, IS THE CITY SPENDING ANY UPFRONT MONEY THAT WOULD OTHERWISE COULD BE SPENT SOMEPLACE ELSE? OR IS THE HOMEOWNER PAYING THIS? WE'RE COLLECTING IT, ADDING AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE AND THEN PAYING DEBT ONCE WE HAVE THE MONEY.
THAT'S THE, MY UNDERSTANDING THESE, THIS IS THE SEVERAL TIMES WE'VE DONE THIS.
AND I BELIEVE THAT IS, THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE.
BUT IF IT'S DIFFERENT THIS TIME THAT WE KNOW, AND IF NOT,
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IS THERE SOMETHING IN THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU THINK NEEDS TO BE CHANGED IF IT'S NOT CLEAR FOR YOU HERE? CAUSE I'VE NEVER BELIEVED THAT THE CITY WAS SPENDING THAT MONEY UP FRONT.LIKE SECTION 10 SAYS THE CITY SHALL DIRECTLY REIMBURSE THE DEVELOPER.
AS IN WHEN THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS ARE COLLECTED FOR THE DEVELOPERS COST AND INTEREST THEY'RE IN.
SO THAT'S ONLY, ONLY AS WE RECEIVE IT.
DO WE PAY IT MARK? THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
I THOUGHT AS WE COLLECTED THE MONEY, WE WOULD PASS IT ON TO THE DEVELOPER.
AND THEN TONY, DID I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GOING TO COLLECT A FEE FOR THAT? YEAH.
THERE'S AN M UH, IT'S A NEW, NEWER PROCESS, BUT THE CITY NOW, AND ANY SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS IS GOING TO BE CHARGING AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE TO ADMINISTER THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS ON TOP OF THE ASSESSMENT AMOUNT.
SO THAT WOULD BE TO THE FINANCIAL BENEFIT OF THE CITY.
I WANT TO SAY IT WAS LIKE 3.5, BUT I DON'T THINK WE MET FOR SURE.
SO JERRY, THE PERSON THAT PAYS THE ASSESSMENT, PAYS IT TO THE CITY.
IS THAT CORRECT? TO THE COUNTY, TO THE COUNTY, THAT'S LIKE TAXES AND THEN THE COUNTY SENDS IT TO US AND THEN WE SEND IT BACK TO THE DEVELOPER.
BUT WE CHARGE A TRANSACTION FEE OF ABOUT 3%, THREE OR THREE AND A HALF PERCENT TO YOU SEE IN THERE SOMEWHERE YET.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT COMES.
SO, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, GLENN, ANITA, THERE IS NO OUTLAY OF MONEY THAT THE CITY IS PAYING TO ANYBODY THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT WOULD BE OTHERWISE USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE, BUT OKAY.
I MEAN, WHAT'S, WHAT'S, I GUESS WHAT'S NOT TO BELIEVE LAND.
I'M JUST GOING TO ASK YOU SITUATIONS HAVE BEEN THIS WAY AS WELL.
THE CITY COMES OUT OF THERE, WE COME OUT OF A SEWER AND WATER FUNDS TO FUND THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
THEN ONCE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS INSTALLED, THEN EACH LOT IS LEVIED OR, UM, UM, WHAT DO WE CALL IT HERE? UH, UH, ASSESSED A PARTICULAR FEE FROM THE HOMEOWNER THAT THEY PAY EACH YEAR ON THEIR TAXES TO REIMBURSE OUR INITIAL COST.
THAT'S THE STANDARD ASSESSMENT, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO WE ARE COMING OUT OF POCKET UPFRONT AND THEN WE'RE GETTING REIMBURSED ON THE BACKEND.
THIS ONE IS, EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS THAT IN THE SUMMARY PART, THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE DOES AND RESOLUTIONS DO NOT SAVE THAT.
AND THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND THE PETITION, WHICH I DON'T SEE IN HERE ALSO EXPLAINS THAT.
BUT THEY PETITION AS PART OF THE, IN THE PACKET OF RIGHT NOW, THE DISHES UNDER EXHIBIT A FOR THAT RESOLUTION.
SO, SO WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO CONVINCE ME OF IS THAT THE MONEY THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO PAY IN THE FUTURE ARE GOING TO FUND THE INFRASTRUCTURE GOING IN TODAY.
AND NOBODY'S OUT OF POCKET NOW FOR THAT DEVELOPER WILL BE, THE DEVELOPER PAYS FOR IT UPFRONT, ASSESSED THE PROPERTY OWNERS GETS REIMBURSED FOR IT.
THAT'S HOW IT'S WORKED IN THE PAST.
SO I THINK SOME OF THE, IT IS NOT HOW IT WAS SOME OF THE OLDER DEVELOPERS, THE ONES WERE NOT LIKE THAT.
AND THEN THE CITY STOPPED DOING THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS COMING OUT OF POCKET IN LIKE 2018, AT SOME PARTICULAR POINT, I THINK IT WAS 2018 WHEN THERE WAS THE MAJOR AMENDMENTS TO IT.
AND THEN IT'S BEEN THIS REVERSE ASSESSMENT SINCE.
LIKE WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING SINCE PROBABLY THE MIDDLE OF 2018, MR. SCHIRMER WAS STILL THE CITY MANAGER.
CAUSE IT WAS HIS RECOMMENDATION.
WE STOPPED DOING THAT JUST TO RESTATE, UH, WHAT THE LAW DIRECTOR SAID IN THE RESOLUTION OF NECESSITY.
SECTION 10, I MEAN, SENTENCE IS PRETTY CLEAR.
THE CITY SHALL DIRECTLY REIMBURSE THE DEVELOPER AS, AND WHEN THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS ARE COLLECTED FOR THE DEVELOPERS COSTS AND INTEREST THERE.
SO IT'S PRETTY CLEAR LANGUAGE OR HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK.
IT'S ALSO IN THE PETITION SECTION TO WHICH THE, BOTH OF THOSE, THE ORDINANCE AND REFER BACK TO THE PETITION AND THE PETITION SECTION TWO IS SAYS THE DEVELOPER SHALL CONSTRUCT THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE MANNER, CONSISTENT WITH THE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS.
UM, THE DEVELOPERS SHALL PAY PREVAILING WAGE.
THE DEVELOPER SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THE ACTUAL COSTS.
UM, PRIOR TO THE TIME THAT IT'S DEDICATED, THE DEVELOPERS SHOULD PROVIDE WARRANTIES AND GUARANTEES THE SHIP.
THE CITY SHALL PROMPTLY FOLLOWING COMPLETION OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE IMPROVEMENTS AND DEDICATION, UM, DO THE ASSESSMENTS AND, UM, AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S 8,000 A LOT.
AND THEN LATER ON IN HERE, IT SAYS THAT THE CITY WILL PAY THE ASSESSMENT ONLY AS COLLECTED.
SO IF WE DON'T COLLECT IT, WE DON'T PAY FOR IT.
AND IT'S UP TO THEM TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO.
I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT OF THE WAY THIS HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN DONE.
IF THAT'S WHAT THE ASK WAS TODAY.
I WOULDN'T SUPPORT THAT EITHER WITH THE CITY FUNDING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE UPFRONT.
UM, BUT NOW THAT THAT'S CHANGED AND WE ONLY PAY ONCE IT'S ASSESSED.
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AND I THINK THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT WHOLE DIFFERENT SCENARIO, BUT I WOULDN'T BE IN FAVOR IF IT WAS, IF THEY WERE STILL MAKING THAT REQUEST TO DO IT THE OLD WAY, RICHARD, YOU HAVE A COMMENT.UH, MARY, I WAS JUST JUSTIN, IF POSSIBLE, CAUSE THERE'S AN ORDINANCE PIECE TO THIS, UH, THAT IF THOSE WHO HAVE MADE THE FIRST AND SECOND ONE, A WITHDRAWAL AND WE CAN PASS THIS ON TO A SECOND READING TO ALLOW MORE CONVERSATION AT A WORK SESSION, UH, AND MAYBE, UH, IT COULD BE, UM, IMPORTANT AT THAT TIME TO CHANGE THE BACKGROUND AND INFORMATION AND THE READ AHEAD, UH, SO THAT EVERYTHING IS MATCHING UP ACCORDINGLY.
AND I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO A SECOND READING ANYWAY TONIGHT.
SO THAT THERE'S NO REASON THAT IT COULDN'T SURE.
AND THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON THAT I BROUGHT THIS UP.
CAUSE I THOUGHT AFTER WHAT GLEN ANITA SAID IT WAS, I UNDERSTOOD IT A DIFFERENT WAY.
SO BEFORE ANY VOTE IS TAKEN, I THINK EVERYONE NEEDS TO HAVE FULL CLARITY ON WHAT IT IS ARE VOTING ON.
SO I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT AT ALL.
AND IF WE CAN HAVE THAT BACKGROUND, UH, ADDRESSED, UH, MAYBE, UH, UM, TONY, IF YOU COULD WORK WITH, UM, WITH BRIAN MAKING, MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S UPDATED BEFORE THE NEXT WORK SESSION, UH, I, I THINK WE'D HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF, I'M WILLING TO GUESS THAT IN USING THE AGENDA QUICK SYSTEM, SOMEONE COPIED OVER AN ITEM FROM AN OLD ONE AND JUST CHANGE THE AMOUNTS IN THE SUMMARY PART.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW I GOT WITH SOME OF THE OLD LANGUAGE, EVEN THOUGH THE REALITY OF THE RESOLUTION AND THE ORDINANCE REFLECTED DIFFERENT PROCESSES SITUATIONS.
I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S CLEAR.
YOU'RE WITHDRAWING YOUR FIRST RICHARD.
AND LET ME ASK, UH, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE? LET'S SAY, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LAW DIRECTOR TO RESEARCH A, UH, UH, AN ADDITIONAL ITEM IN THE RESOLUTION AND ORDINANCE THAT CLEARLY STATES THAT NO CITY FUNDING WILL BE USED.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT NO CITY FUNDING FROM THE SEWER OR WATER, UM, UH, REVENUES WOULD BE USED FOR THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS FOR THIS PROJECT.
I MEAN, IF IT'S JUST MUNDANE, I THINK THAT MEANS A LOT TO THE RESIDENTS.
IF THAT WAS IN THERE, I JUST ADD, YOU SAID RESEARCH AND DO RESEARCH AND TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN PUT IT IN THERE, THERE WOULD BE NO ISSUE BECAUSE TYPICALLY WHEN I COME UP WITH FUNNY LANGUAGE LIKE THAT, LIKE, HMM, LET ME LOOK INTO THAT.
WHAT DOES THE LEGISLATION CURRENTLY SAY REGARDING THAT? COULD YOU READ THAT AGAIN? WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE RESOLUTION, TALKING ABOUT THE PART THAT YOU READ, WHERE THERE WAS NO CITY MONEY, UH, I'VE GOT TO FIND ME TO GET, I'M SORRY.
THE CITY SHALL DIRECTLY REIMBURSE THE DEVELOPER AS, AND WHEN THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS ARE COLLECTED FROM THE DEVELOPERS OR ICTS ARE COLLECTED FOR THE DEVELOPERS COST AND INTEREST THERE ON, AND WOULD RICHARD SUGGESTION FIT IN THERE? COULD YOU EXPAND UPON THE LANGUAGE AND INCLUDE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, DISSATISFIED AND THAT IN THE SECTION 10 FOR ALL, THAT'S AN AGENDA OF SECTION 10 YET I CAN GO IN THERE ALMOST ANYWHERE WRITTEN.
I MEAN, THE INTENT IS TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE CITY IS NOT EXPANDING ITS FUNDS ON THIS.
IF THAT'S OUR INTENT, THERE SHOULD BE NO ISSUE WITH PUTTING IT IN THE LEGISLATION.
SO IT'S ALREADY IN THE LEGISLATION.
WHAT RICHARD'S ASKING IS THAT THERE'S NO WATER AND SEWER MONEY, CITY'S WATER AND SEWER WATER AND SEWER MINE.
SO ALTHOUGH IT, IT, IT INCLUDES THAT.
COULD WE BREAK IT DOWN AND SAY IT SPECIFICALLY? I THINK ANY CITY MONEY WOULD BE NOT JUST WATER, SIR.
BUT THAT THE LANGUAGE IS CLEAR AND, OKAY.
SO WE'LL MOVE THAT ONTO A SECOND READING AND THEN WE WILL ALSO DISCUSS IT AT THE WORK SESSION.
[ An Ordinance Determining To Proceed With The Improvement Of Public Streets And Easements, In Section 2- Phase 5 And Section 7 - Phase 5 By Constructing And Installing Certain Public Infrastructure Improvements, Including Street Improvements, Subbase, Concrete Curb/Gutter With Drainage, Asphalt, Street Lights And Signs, Sidewalk, Survey Work And Engineering, And In Each Case, All Other Costs And Improvements Necessary And Appurtenant Thereto. (first reading)]
WOULD BE ITEM 11.I H WAS IT H ITEM THAT'S THE ORDINANCE THAT GOT YOU ON THE COMPANION PIECE ITEM 11 AGE AND ORDINANCE DETERMINING TO PROCEED WITH THE IMPROVEMENT OF PUBLIC STREETS AND EASEMENTS AND SECTION TWO PHASE FIVE AND SECTION SEVEN, PHASE FIVE BY CONSTRUCTING AND INSTALLING CERTAIN PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PER MOVEMENTS, INCLUDING STREET IMPROVEMENTS, A BASE CONCRETE CURB GUTTER WITH DRAINAGE, ASPHALT STREET LIGHTS AND SIGNS, SIDEWALK, SURVEY, WORK, AND ENGINEERING, AND IN EACH CASE, ALL OTHER COSTS AND IMPROVEMENTS AND A PERTINENT THERE TOO AT THE FIRST STREET.
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KATIE REAL AND CALLING ON YOU, IS THIS WOOD PIECE, THIS PIECE WOULD ALSO JUST MOVE OR, OR IS THERE BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF THE ARM.DO WE NEED FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS PIECE AT THE WORK SESSION AS WELL? WE HAVE TO HAVE THE RESOLUTION BEFORE WE CAN.
THEY HAVE TO BE AN ORDER RESOLUTION FIRST THAN ORDINARY.
SO WE'LL MOVE ON THE SECOND RING AS WELL.
[ A Resolution Increasing The Not To Exceed Amount And Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract For The 2022 Water Main Replacement Project. (first reading)]
THE NEXT NOW IS ITEM 11, NINE ITEM 11.I A RESOLUTION INCREASING THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR THE 2022 WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECT AT THE FIRST READING, EXCUSE ME, KATIE SOCIETAL AUTHORIZES ENTERING IN THE CONTRACT WITH M AND T EXCAVATING FOR PHASES.
ONE, TWO AND THREE AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED 1,850,000.
AND THE WORK SESSION RECOMMENDATION WAS ADOPTION.
IS THERE A MOTION NANCY? I HAVE TO ADAPT FOR A SECOND.
AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS PROJECT? TONY MR. CAMPBELL? YES.
THIS IS KITCHEN, MR. WEBB, MR. SHAW, MS. BAKER MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO,
[ A Resolution Setting Forth The Intention To Appropriate Certain Land Adjacent To The City Well Field For Public Purposes. (first reading)]
AND NEXT IS ITEM 11, J ADAM 11 J, AND A RESOLUTION SETTING FORTH THE INTENTION TO APPROPRIATE CERTAIN LAND ADJACENT TO THE CITY.WELL FIELD FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES AT THE FIRST STREET, ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS ONE.
AS DISCUSSED AT THE WORK SESSION, UH, THE CITY IS IN NEED OF SOME PROPERTY FOR SOME WELLS.
UM, WE ARE IN PROCESS OF DISCUSSION WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
THERE'S A TOTAL OF THREE ON THE LOTS THAT WE NEED.
I HAVE HEARD FROM ALL OF THEM.
UH, THEY ARE SECURING A SEPARATE, UH, APPRAISAL, AND ONCE THEY HAVE THAT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO COMPARE THE TWO AND HOPEFULLY COME UP WITH SOMETHING.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS.
AND THIS IS JUST THE FIRST LEGISLATIVE STEP, WHICH IS THE FORMAL INDICATION OF THE CITY'S INTENTIONS TO APPROPRIATE IT.
AND SO I WOULD ASK THAT THIS GET PASSED TONIGHT.
UM, PROBABLY IN JULY, AT SOME POINT WE WILL HAVE AN ORDINANCE, WHICH IS THE SECOND STEP.
AND THEN THE THIRD STEP WOULD BE ACTUALLY FILING AN ACTION IN COURT IF WE NEED TO DO THAT.
BUT HOPEFULLY BY THEN WE WILL HAVE SOME SORT OF RESOLUTION.
RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADOPT, IS THERE A MOTION RICHARD MOTION TO ADOPT AND EMOTION AND A SECONDARY DISCUSSION AND MRS. BURSCH.
MR. WEBB, MR. SHAW, MS. BAKER, MR. CAMPBELL.
[12. City Official Reports and Comments]
SEVEN ZERO.NEXT TIME 12 SAY OFFICIAL REPORTS AND COMMENTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ECHO MY WIFE'S COMMENTS ON THIS PAST WEEK'S EVENTS.
UM, WITH THE CULTURAL DIVERSITY, HE SAYS IS ACTUALLY COMMISSIONED GREAT JOB TO ALL YOU GUYS PUT TOGETHER SOME WONDERFUL EVENTS, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THOSE GROW IN THE FUTURE.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DUST UP CONCERNING THE CITY MANAGER ISSUE AND, UH, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT HAS BEEN SAID SO FAR CONCERNING THE FACT THAT WE HAVE OVERLOOKED.
WHAT ON PAPER HAS APPEARED TO BE THE SINGLE MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE THAT WE WE'VE, UH, WE'VE GOT OUR FINAL FOUR AND IT HAD IS THE ONLY CANDIDATE WHO HAS NOT RECEIVED THE COURTESY OF AN UP-DOWN VOTE.
I KNOW MAYOR THAT YOU THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE EIGHT MEMBERS HERE TO VOTE ON THAT, UH, POSITION.
UH, YOU THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN SUPPORT OF A CANDIDATE SINCE WE ARE THAT INDIVIDUALS, UM, BOSS, SO TO SPEAK.
UM, SO WE SHOULD HAVE A MAJORITY IN FAVOR OF A PARTICULAR CANDIDATE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHY THE PUSHBACK ON ANY KIND OF VOTE.
I KNOW IT WAS ATTEMPTED TO BRING A VOTE AROUND FOR, UH, MR. SMITH AS HE HAS CERTAINLY WELL-QUALIFIED THAT WAS DENIED.
UM, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN AGAIN.
AND IF NOT THAT, THEN I WOULD LIKE US TO TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CULTURAL DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION AND ESTABLISHING A, UH, PROPER PROCESS FOR REVIEWING GRADING AND PUBLICLY INTERVIEWING CANDIDATES FOR THIS POSITION.
IT IS TRULY THAT IMPORTANT TO THE CITY.
IN MY OPINION, I THINK WE'VE DILLY DALLY TOO LONG.
I THINK WE HAVE OVERLOOKED A VERY QUALIFIED CANDIDATE.
WE OVERLOOKED A COUPLE, ACTUALLY ONE'S ALREADY TOOK, TAKEN ANOTHER POSITION.
IT SEEMS. UM, BUT, UH, BUT YEAH, I, I THINK I, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'VE GONE THAT DIRECTION, BUT, UH, MY HOPE IS THAT WE EITHER GIVE MR. SMITH SOME CONSIDERATION AS HE, AS HE DESERVES AT LEAST AN UP-DOWN VOTE, OR WE RESTART THIS PROCESS, UTILIZING THE GUIDELINES THAT THE CULTURAL DIVERSITY COMMISSION HAVE OUTLINED TO US IN THEIR LETTER.
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OKAY.I WOULD LIKE TO TELL EVERYBODY ELSE TO SEE A SATURDAY AT 10 O'CLOCK AT THE PARADE.
ANYONE ELSE? ANY OTHER COMMENTS I NEED IT? I LIKE TO THANK ALSO THE CULTURAL AND DIVERSITY COMMISSION.
I WAS ONLY ABLE TO MAKE A COUPLE OF THINGS DUE TO MY WORK SCHEDULE AND SICKNESS IN MY FAMILY, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
WE HAD A GREAT TIME AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
ANYONE ELSE, MARK? I WANT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE ALSO.
I HAD A GREAT TIME ON SATURDAY.
UM, I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, GROUP THAT, UH, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET AND I WOULD DESCRIBE THEM AS THE TURKISH COMMUNITY.
AND I MET A GENTLEMAN NAMED ELDAR AND HIS FAMILY.
UH, THEY DEMONSTRATED KINDNESS AND LOVE THAT THEY HAVE FOR YOU FOR HEIGHTS.
UM, IT WAS INSPIRING TO TALK WITH AND MEET HIS FAMILY.
AND I THINK JUST A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, UH, I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT, UH, I FEEL PART OF THEIR FAMILY AND I'M PROUD TO CALL THEM FRIENDS, BUT I THINK EVERYONE FOR THEIR EFFORT, UM, IT WAS WELL ATTENDED.
I THINK ELDAR HAD MENTIONED TO ME AFTERWARDS THAT THEY MIGHT'VE SOLD OVER 400, 400 POUNDS OF CHICKEN.
SO JUST, UH, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, IT WAS A VERY WELL ATTENDED, MAYBE ONE OF THE BEST ATTENDED FUNCTIONS THAT WE'VE HAD AT THE EICHELBERGER TO DATE.
I BELIEVE IT WAS, BUT I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
YOU KNOW, MY, UH, MY APPRECIATION FOR THE COMMITTEE AND THEIR HARD WORK.
AND THEN, UH, THE TURKISH COMMUNITY.
I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE, UH, UH, BEEN A PART OF OUR CITY AND I, I HOPE WE JUST CONTINUE TO INCLUDE THEM.
[14. Adjournment]
OKAY.IT IS 7 45 AND THIS MAKES A JERK.