Jun 07, 2022 Council Work Session

MRS. BURJ, MR. OTTO HERE, MR. LYONS.

THIS IS KITCHEN MR. WEB MERIDOR.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, RICHARD'S UNDER THE WEATHER THIS EVENING WHERE HE WOULD BE HERE.

[2. Approval of Minutes]

NOW NUMBER TWO APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

UH, THE MINUTES ARE FOR WHAT DATES MAY 17TH.

THE LAST COUNCIL WORKS AND IF THERE ARE NO CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES, THEY'LL STAND APPROVED.

A IS CITY MANAGER REPORT WATER INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATE.

THANKS TONY ITEM THREE, WORK SESSION, TOPICS OF DISCUSSION

[ City Manager Report/Water Infrastructure Update]

BRIAN, ARE YOU READY TO REPORT? I AM SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

A COUPLE THINGS TO COVER FOR COUNCIL TONIGHT, UH, ON THE WATER SIDE OF THE HOUSE, UH, JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS THAT, UH, WE ARE CONTINUING TO NEGOTIATE, UH, WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE WELL FIELD, UH, EXPANSION OVER OFF OF RIP RAP.

UH, THE WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECT, UH, BIDS ARE IN AND UNDER REVIEW.

AND WE LOOK TO HAVE, UH, LEGISLATION, UH, BEFORE COUNCIL ON THE 21ST AND 27TH MEETING COMBINATION.

UH, THE WATER MAIN EAST PROJECT IS SCHEDULED TO BE BID THIS WEEK, UH, THURSDAY, FRIDAY, EXCUSE ME, THIS WEEK.

AND THEN, UH, IN THE WATER REALM, TOM CLOUD SPLASH PAD, UH, WE DID GET THE MOTOR REBUILT AND INSTALLED TODAY.

SO THAT IS UP AND RUNNING.

UH, THERE ARE THREE FEATURES THAT ARE STILL OUT OF SERVICE AND THE VENDORS COMING IN TO LOOK AT THOSE ON, UH, THE NINTH, A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS, UH, AWAY FROM THE WATER SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

UH, JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THIS THURSDAY KICKS OFF THE CITYWIDE GARAGE SALE, UH, WHICH RUNS THROUGH SUNDAY, THE 12TH, UH, AND A LIST OF ALL THE PARTICIPATING HOMES WILL BE UP ON THE WEBSITE.

UH, TOMORROW AROUND NOON.

ALSO WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT A SATURDAY, EXCUSE ME, LAST SATURDAY WAS, UH, OUR FIRST CONCERT, UH, FEATURING THE DATE FUNK ALL-STARS OVER AT THE EICHELBERGER AND WE HAVE ANOTHER CONCERT COMING UP ON THE 10TH, UH, FEATURING THE TYLER COCHRAN TRIO.

UH, JUNE 16TH IS OUR FIRST $4 THURSDAY OVER AT THE AQUATIC CENTER WITH, UH, NANCY WILSON FROM K 99.

UH, AND JUNE 19TH KICKS OFF CULTURE WEEK, UH, IN ALL THE EVENTS BEING PLANNED BY, UH, THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY COMMISSION.

A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS I DID WANT TO TOUCH ON.

UH, WE HAD HAD SOME HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT FROM COUNCIL, UH, EARLIER IN THIS YEAR, LATE LAST YEAR WITH RESPECT TO, UH, THE WEBSITE.

I DID WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT AND WORK THROUGH THAT.

UH, SEVERAL OF YOU PARTICIPATED IN A QUICK SURVEY TO KIND OF HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND, UH, HOW WE THOUGHT AS STAFF AND AS A COUNCIL, HOW WE THOUGHT THE WEBSITE SHOULD BE USED.

AND WE WANTED TO COMPARE THAT TO HOW THE WEBSITE WAS ACTUALLY BEING USED.

SO JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS ON, ON WHAT WE'VE DISCOVERED.

SO OF, UH, THE SURVEY, UH, THE MAJORITY, UH, 57% ANSWERED THAT THEY THOUGHT THE WEBSITE SHOULD PROVIDE INFRARED INFORMATION DIRECTED TO HUBER HEIGHTS RESIDENTS.

76% THOUGHT THAT THE WEBSITE SHOULD PROVIDE INFORMATION VERSUS CONDUCTING BUSINESS.

UH, IN OTHER WORDS, UH, WHEN IS LEAF COLLECTION AND HOW TO FILE TAXES, UH, AND THEN, UH, THE MAJORITY FOUND THAT, UH, IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THE HOMEPAGE TO PROVIDE DIRECTED INFORMATION WITH LIMITED CLICKS AND SCROLLING.

UH, THEN WE RAN THE ANALYTICS.

SO THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON WHY IT'S TAKEN SO LONG FOR US TO GET BACK TO YOU ON SOME OF THE, THESE THINGS.

UH, BUT WHEN WE LOOKED AT ANALYTICS, UH, WHAT WE FOUND WERE THE MOST FREQUENT SEARCHES INCLUDED PAY WATER BILL DO NOT SOLICIT JOBS, PAY BILL ONLINE PAYMENT.

AND THE TOP FIVE PAGES VISITED WHERE THE MAIN PAGE AND THE ABOUT HUBER HEIGHTS PAGE, BUT NEXT IN LINE, OR THE KROGER AQUATIC CENTER, LOOKING FOR THE PURCHASE OF PASSES, A WATER AND WASTEWATER PORTION OF THE WEBSITE LOOKING TO PAY THEIR UTILITY BILL AND THEN THE ONLINE PAYMENT FUNCTION.

SO CLEARLY WHAT WE AS COUNCIL AND STAFF THOUGHT THE WEBSITE SHOULD DO IS NOT WHAT THE WEBSITE IS ACTUALLY DOING BASED ON A USER INFORMATION, UH, WEBSITES BASED ON THIS INFORMATION THAT WE SUGGEST, UH, YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WOULD BE WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP, SPRING BUREAU, BEAVER CREEK, AND CENTERVILLE.

UH, THOSE ARE SITES, UH, WHICH PROVIDE AT LEAST WHAT WE THINK, UH, WOULD BE A FORMAT SUITABLE FOR OUR USE.

AND THE REASON THAT I SAY

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THAT IS MOST USERS VISIT OUR SITE FROM THEIR SMARTPHONE BROWSER.

THEY'RE NOT VISITING FROM THEIR DESKTOP.

SO, UM, THE, UH, THE NEXT STEP GOING FORWARD IS A WEBSITE AUDIT.

SO WE WILL BE LOOKING TO ENGAGE THAT SERVICE HERE RELATIVELY SOON.

UH, AND BASED ON THE INFORMATION, UH, THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THERE HAD BEEN TALK, UH, PREVIOUSLY WITH COUNCIL, UH, REGARDING THE USE OF AN APP, UH, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO REPORT.

UH, WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS, IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF WEBSITES ARE ACTUALLY, UH, PROCEEDING WITH A MOBILE FRIENDLY FORMAT, AS OPPOSED TO AN APPLICATION TO AN OUT OF MOBILE APP TO INTERACT FROM YOUR MOBILE SMARTPHONE OR DEVICE.

UH, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WERE AWARE OF THAT.

UH, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE TO THE WEBSITE, UM, IN ADDITION TO A DESK, BUT JUST SOME GENERAL THINGS THAT WE HAD COMMITTED TO DO.

UM, ONE OF THOSE WAS, UH, WE WANTED TO UPDATE THE, UH, THE VISUAL IMAGES ON THE WEBSITE.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL HAD ASKED US TO DO.

UH, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET.

AND I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE INTENDED TO DO THAT.

WE HAVE A PHOTOGRAPHER UNDER CONTRACT, UH, AND THAT CONTRACTOR IS, UH, ATTENDING EVENTS THAT ONLY RECENTLY STARTED.

SO THERE'LL BE ATTENDING SEVERAL OF THE FARMER'S MARKETS.

THERE'LL BE ATTENDING THE EVENTS OF, UH, THE DIVERSITY COMMISSION THE WEEK OF THE 19TH, 4TH OF JULY NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, AND SEVERAL OF THE FREE CONCERTS.

SO THAT'S WHERE THERE'LL BE LOOKING TO GET, UM, THEIR, UH, MATERIAL, THEIR VISUAL MATERIAL FOR OUR WEBSITE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, THAT WE HAD ENGAGED THAT PHOTOGRAPHER BACK IN, I THINK, LATE FEBRUARY, EARLY MARCH.

UH, AND SO THESE WERE THE EVENTS THAT THROUGH THAT CONTRACT WE'VE ASSIGNED THEM TO, UH, TO ATTEND.

SO, UH, WE, AREN'T LOOKING TO COMPLETE THAT WORK FOR COUNCIL.

UM, WE DID NOT FORGET THAT, WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE NOT SEEN IT.

THOSE EVENTS ARE JUST AROUND THE CORNER, UH, AND UNDERWAY.

SO THAT'S OUR HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF THE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS COUNSEL MIGHT HAVE.

YES, UH, BRIAN, UH, WHEN I WENT TO THE, UM, EVENT, THEY, THE CONCERT ON SATURDAY, UH, THE COMMUNITY CONCERT, SEVERAL PEOPLE SAID THAT THEY LOOKED ON THE WEBSITE AND DIDN'T SEE IT.

CAN WE PUT THOSE THINGS ON THE FRONT PAGE? WE'LL, UH, WE WILL TALK WITH STAFF AND SEE ABOUT MAKING SURE THOSE, THAT INFORMATION IS MORE PROMINENT.

YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THE OTHER THING I MEANT TO SEND YOU AN EMAIL, BUT I'VE BEEN RUNNING, UM, AS I WAS COMING FROM DAYTON, THE, UH, SOUTH SIDE OF THE DIGITAL SIGN AT CLUB PARK, HALF OF IT WAS OUT.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT NEEDS TO BE REBOOTED OR WHAT THAT WAS BEFORE THE STORM.

WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT.

THANK YOU, GLENN.

UM, BRIAN, QUICK QUESTION, UH, AFTER THE, OR AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, THERE WERE INQUIRIES INTO THE, UM, STATEMENTS THAT MR. LYONS HAD MADE AND THAT EVEN IN THAT TEXT STRING AND COMING OUT OF THAT WAS A LETTER SENT JUNE 2ND FROM YOURSELF AND, UH, CHIEF AND, AND MARK HON.

AND, UH, IT BROUGHT ABOUT MORE QUESTIONS FOR ME.

AND I'M JUST CURIOUS, AND WITHIN THIS LETTER IN THE THIRD PARAGRAPH AT TWICE STATES, UM, AT NO TIME SINCE THE DATE OF FEBRUARY 12TH, 2021, HAS THERE BEEN, YOU KNOW, ANY TYPE OF ACTIVITY SUCH AS THAT, MY QUESTION IS WHY THAT DATE, WAS THERE SOMETHING BEFORE THAT, THAT KIND OF JUST BROUGHT MORE QUESTIONS TO MY MIND WHEN I SAW THAT? SURE.

THE, UM, THAT DATE SPECIFICALLY IS REFERENCED BECAUSE THAT IS THE DATE THAT CHIEF KNISELY BECAME CHIEF AND BASED ON OUR CONVERSATIONS, UM, AS THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, THAT INFORMATION BEING PRESENTED, UH, AND THE COMMENTARY THAT WAS MADE, WE CAN ONLY ATTEST FOR WHAT WE KNOW OR WHAT WE EXPERIENCED, OR, UM, WHAT OCCURRED DURING OUR 10 YEARS OF LEADERSHIP.

SO TO WHATEVER THE QUESTION OR CONCERN THAT MEMBERS OF COUNCIL MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE, WE CAN ONLY ATTEST TO OUR INVOLVEMENT AND OUR ROLE AND OUR INVOLVEMENT SPECIFIC TO OUR TIME SPECIFIC TO THE STAFFING PRESENTATION.

THAT IS WHAT THAT LETTER SPEAKS TO.

SO WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE OUR TIME I CAN ATTEST TO, AND IN MY OPINION, IS IRRELEVANT TO THE INFORMATION THAT WE PRESENTED, BECAUSE IT IS OUR OPINIONS BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD ASSEMBLED AND THE INFORMATION THAT WAS DISCUSSED BETWEEN CHIEF KNISELY AND I, AND BETWEEN CHIEF KNISELY AND, UH, THE, THE IFF LEADERSHIP.

SO WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THAT WE CAN ATTEST TO, WE CAN ONLY ATTEST TO WHAT WE KNOW AND WHAT WE WERE AWARE OF.

AND THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON I ASKED CAUSE THAT DAY DID NOT RING ANY SPECIFIC BELLS FOR MYSELF EITHER.

SO I WAS, I WAS WONDERING WHY THAT DATE AND WHY WAS THAT LISTING? SO THANK YOU, KATE.

VICE MAYOR CAMPBELL

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REAL QUICK.

BRIAN, CAN YOU GO OVER THAT LIST OF WHAT THE PHOTOGRAPHER IS GOING TO COVER? YOU SAID CONCERTS AT THE RE UH, THE, UH, THE CONTRACT.

IT WAS FOR, UH, SPECIFICALLY FARMER'S MARKET EVENTS TO DIVERSITY COMMISSION EVENTS, 4TH OF JULY NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, AND TWO FREE CONCERTS.

WHAT ABOUT OUR KROGER AQUATIC CENTER OR THE ROADS? UH, YEAH, OUR ADDITIONAL, UH, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL, UM, UH, GOSH, THERE WERE ADDITIONAL SHOTS FOR THE, YES, AS LIONS.

VICE MAYOR.

UH, BRIAN, THE SPLASH PAD.

WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL WITH THE DIFFICULTIES WE'VE HAD WITH OPENING THE SPLASH PAD THIS YEAR.

ANYONE ELSE? QUESTIONS, CONCERNS.

UM, IS THERE ANY, UH, NEW INFORMATION ABOUT THE MAJOR PART THAT SHUTTING IT DOWN? RIGHT.

SO, UM, AS I NOTED, THE PUMP WAS PULLED REBUILT AND THEN INSTALLED THIS MORNING.

SO THAT IS UP AND OPERATIONAL.

SO TWO THIRDS OF THE PAD IS CURRENTLY OPEN AND USABLE.

THERE'S A THIRD OF THE PAD, UH, THAT IS NOT, THERE ARE FEATURES THAT ARE NOT STILL FUNCTIONING AND THE VENDOR IS COMING ON THURSDAY OF THIS WEEK TO REVIEW AND EVALUATE THOSE FEATURES TO DETERMINE WHY THEY'RE NOT WORKING AND HOW TO REPAIR THEM.

SO THAT THAT PORTION OF THE PAD CAN BE, UH, OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC TO USE.

AND DID I, DO I RECALL CORRECTLY THAT THAT'S UNDER WARRANTY? UH, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE PUMP WAS UNDER WARRANTY.

I DON'T KNOW THE OUTCOME OF THAT.

UH, MY ONLY QUESTION OR CONCERN WAS, IS IT FIXED AND IS IT SERVICEABLE? SO IT IS FIXED IN SERVICE.

SO BY, BY I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP ON WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS WARRANTY AND I'M SURE YOU WILL.

UM, AND THEN I THINK THE LAST QUESTION I HAD, UH, THAT WAS DISCOVERED WHEN, UH, PROBABLY PUBLIC WORKS OR STAFF WAS LOOKING AT GETTING IT READY FOR THE, UM, WAS THAT, UH, MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND OPENING.

AND AS THEY WERE GETTING READY, THEY DISCOVERED THOSE PROBLEMS THAT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO.

I JUST RECEIVED A TEXT MESSAGE FROM MR. GRAY ON, I BELIEVE IT WAS SATURDAY AFTERNOON.

UH, THAT INFORMED ME THAT THAT HAD BEEN MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND.

YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT WAS CORRECT.

COMMENTS.

SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO ITEM THREE, B LETTER OF INTEREST, UH, LEHMAN FARM PROPERTY, RIGHT, BRIAN? UH, YES, SIR.

[ Letter Of Interest - Portion Of Lehman Farm Property]

AS WE DISCUSSED WITH CITY COUNCIL IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, THE LAST TIME WE WERE TOGETHER, UH, THIS LETTER OF INTENT IS TO, UH, SELL PROPERTY TO AN INTERESTED PARTY.

AND WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION ON MONDAY NIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OBJECTIONS MOVING THIS FORWARD TO MONDAY SEEING NONE? TONY WE'LL DO

[ 2023 Tax Budget]

THREE C 2023 TAX BUDGET.

JIM BELL.

GOOD EVENING, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UM, I HAVE IT FOR YOU, UH, ANNUAL LEGISLATION THAT I BRING, UH, EACH YEAR FOR THE, UM, UH, THIS'LL BE FOR THE 2023.

AND WHERE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THAT PRELIMINARY TAX BUDGET? UH, THIS IS STILL A FORMALITY THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE MIAMI COUNTY BUDGET COMMISSION.

MONTGOMERY COUNTY BUDGET COMMISSION HAS WAIVED THE NEED FOR THAT, BUT I ALWAYS SUBMIT IT TO BOTH COUNTIES, JUST, UH, UH, AS A FORMALITY.

AND, UM, UH, I DID, UH, THIS WILL BE ADVERTISED.

UH, IT'S BEEN ADVERTISED ON THE WEBSITE AS REQUIRED, UH, UH, BEFORE OUR PUBLIC HEARING, UH, WHICH WILL BE MONDAY NIGHT, UM, 10 DAYS ADVANCE NOTICE.

UH, IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE PUBLISHED IN THE DAILY COURT REPORTER THIS FRIDAY.

AND, UM, UH, WHAT THIS DOES IS IT'S THE BEGINNING OF OUR 2023 BUDGET PROCESS.

THE COUNTY, UH, REQUIRES US TO TURN IN, UM, OUR ESTIMATES, UH, UH, OBVIOUSLY VERY PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES FOR REVENUE FOR 2023.

UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT ALSO LISTS ALL OF OUR CURRENT, UH, BONDED DEBT.

UH, AND, UH, SO I'VE LISTED THOSE IN THAT DOCUMENT.

THAT'S BEEN IN YOUR PACKET AND, UM, SO APPROVING, THIS WILL BE THE FIRST STEP AND THEN, UH, COME, UH, SEPTEMBER, THEY WILL VERIFY BACK TO ME WHAT THEIR ESTIMATE OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT FUND MONIES WILL BE.

THEY'LL ALSO VERIFY WHAT THEY BELIEVE THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUES WE SHOULD EXPECT IN 2023 FROM THE LEVIES.

WE HAVE 10 PROPERTY TAX LEVIES THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE SINCE THE EARLY EIGHTIES.

AND SO THEY'LL COME BACK WITH THAT.

I'LL BUILD THAT INTO THE 20, 23 REVENUE BUDGET.

AND, UM, AND THEN THEY'LL, UH, THEN WE, UH, IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, I'LL BRING TO YOU, UH, EACH COUNTY WILL GIVE ME THOSE ESTIMATES AND WE'LL HAVE TO PASS THOSE.

AND THEN, UH, SHORTLY THEREAFTER WE'LL PASS THE 20, 23 EXPENDITURE BUDGET, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE PROCESS.

AND JIM, THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'D HOPE TO SEE ON MONDAY'S AGENDA.

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YES, YES.

ARE THERE OBJECTIONS OR COMMENTS WE SHOULD JUST KNOW PER THE CHARTER THAT, UH, THE 2023 TAX BUDGET CANNOT BE ADOPTED UNTIL THE CIP IS ADOPTED.

SO IF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE DONE AT THE SAME MEETING, AS LONG AS THE CIP IS ADOPTED PRIOR TO THE TAX BUDGET, IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE TERM.

THANKS, TONY.

ALL

[ 2023-2027 Capital Improvement Plan]

RIGHT.

NEXT ITEM IS D 2023 THROUGH 2027 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

WOULD THAT BE YOU BRIAN? THAT IS ACTUALLY A MR. BELL, THE CPS, UH, YES.

I PRESENTED THIS TO YOU, UH, AT THE LAST COUNCIL WORK SESSION.

AND AT THAT TIME I, UH, UH, SPELLED OUT WHAT THE, UM, THE TOTAL DOLLARS WERE INVOLVED IN THIS, OF COURSE, THIS IS ONCE AGAIN, JUST AN ESTIMATE.

IT'S NOT HOLDING COUNSEL TO ANYTHING, UH, WHETHER IT BE THE 20, 23 BUDGET OR BEYOND.

UH, AND I ASKED AT THAT TIME, IF THERE WERE ANY ADDITIONS I NEED SUGGESTED, UM, CHANGES AMENDMENTS THAT COUNCIL COULD TURN THOSE IN BEFORE THIS NEXT MEETING, I HAVE NOT, UM, BEEN INFORMED OF ANY, UM, ADDED REQUESTS, OBVIOUSLY BETWEEN NOW AND, UM, SAY AROUND SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER TIMEFRAME, WE COULD, UH, ADD ADDITIONAL ONES THAT COME UP BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, AND PUT THAT ACTUALLY INTO THE FINAL APPROPRIATIONS BUDGET.

BUT AT THIS TIME, THIS IS WHAT I HAVE, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY INFORMATION ON ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES.

OBJECTIONS MOVING THIS FORWARD TO MONDAYS AGENDA NANCY.

UH, YES.

I HAD SENT SOME COMMENTS TO BRIAN, UH, TO TRY TO GATHER SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UH, SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO, UM, UH, IT, I T UH, DEPARTMENT AND ALSO, UM, LET'S SEE THE NUMBER ABOUT SERVERS THAT WE HAVE, UM, IN OUR DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, IN OUR STANDALONE BUILDINGS THAT DON'T HAVE.

UM, AND IT SAYS, WELL, BRIAN, I DON'T KNOW, RATHER THAN READ ALL THIS, HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY UPDATES ON WHAT I ASKED YOU WITH RESPECT? THE ONE WAS ABOUT HAVING, UM, THE, UH, CITY REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE, UM, I KNOW UNDER AN INTERRUPTED POWER SOURCES OR BACKUP GENERATORS AND ALL CITY OWNED OR OPERATED FACILITIES.

UM, I APOLOGIZE.

I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION BASED ON OUR DIALOGUE, THAT THAT'S WHAT, THAT WE WERE HAVING A CONVERSATION, NOT THAT THERE WAS PRICING OR BUDGETARY CONSIDERATIONS THAT YOU WANTED INCLUDED AS PART OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, BUT WE ARE HAPPY TO CONSIDER THOSE.

AND I CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH, UH, WITH THE IT DIRECTOR ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE AS PART OF THE 20, 23 BUDGET AS WE WORK TO PUT THAT TOGETHER A LITTLE LATER THIS YEAR, SO THAT WE, WE CAN BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT REQUEST.

WHICH YEAR IT WAS PROJECTED.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, AND, UM, THE STAFFING NEEDS WILL COME AT THAT TIME TO, UH, ANY FUTURE IT STAFFING NEEDS, UH, BECAUSE ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN, UM, ON NUMBER FOUR WAS IN LIGHT OF OUR, I, I SENT A NOTE IN LIGHT OF OUR CURRENT TRAFFIC SITUATION AND DRIVERS, TOTAL REGARD FOR TRAFFIC SIGNALS, SIGNS AND SPEED LIMITS RECOMMEND WE INCLUDE THE REQUIREMENT FOR, UM, LET ME FIND WHAT THE ORIGINAL THING WAS.

UM, THE TRAFFIC INTERSECTION CAMERAS PROJECTED TO BE INSTALLED EARLIER, UH, THAN WHAT'S PROJECTED IN THE CIP, UM, BECAUSE OF THE HUGE TRAFFIC PROBLEM WE HAVE.

AND, UM, AND YOU RESPONDED THAT YOU'D ASKED STAFF FOR A FUTURE.

I THOUGHT MAYBE THIS WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT THAT WOULD FIT WITH A CRITERION FOR FEDERAL AND STATE TRANSPORTATION FUNDING, WINDFALL THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET.

SO THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO MOVE IT UP IF IT WAS DETERMINED THROUGH PUBLIC SAFETY, THAT IT WAS PRUDENT TO DO IT NOW TO HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THE SAFETY ISSUES THAT WE HAVE.

UM, AND, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, BRIAN INDICATED THAT THERE WERE SOME OTHER ISSUES TO CONSIDER WITH RESPECT TO THIS BEYOND SIMPLE APP ACQUISITION AND INSTALLATION COSTS, WHICH INCLUDED IMAGE, CAPTURE STORAGE, ACCESSIBILITY, AND DUPLICATIONS.

SO I ASKED THE QUESTION BECAUSE IF WE HAVE THIS FUNDING COMING IN AND WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT, THEN I, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD MOVE IT UP SO THAT WE COULD GET USE THAT FUNDING INSTEAD OF OUR, OUR CITY FUNDING IN 2023 OR 2024 OR FIVE, I CAN'T REMEMBER

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RIGHT.

AND THERE ARE, UM, UH, THERE ARE FLOCK CAMERAS THAT HAVE BEEN INSTALLED IN OUR, IN SERVICE CURRENTLY.

SO WE HAVE UPGRADED SOME OF OUR TECHNOLOGY TO ASSIST IN CHIEF ALREADY REPORTED THIS MORNING, UH, IN THE STAFF MEETING THAT WE'VE ALREADY SEEN SOME SUCCESS FROM THERE, UH, INSTALLATION AND OPERATION.

UH, THE ISSUE IS JUST, UH, SOME OF, ALL OF THE, SOME OF THOSE OTHER ISSUES THAT I HAD SHARED WITH YOU IN THE EMAIL THAT WE WOULD NEED TO WORK THROUGH.

UH, AND AGAIN, HAPPY TO SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH BOTH, UH, CHIEF LIGHTENER AND, UH, THE IT DIRECTOR ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE GOING FORWARD.

UM, AND DEPENDING UPON HOW ROBUST THAT IS, PERHAPS A 20, 23 INCLUSION, BUT IF NOT, MAYBE AN INCLUSION IN THE 20 24, 28 CIP PLAN GOT TO PROJECTED OUT THERE FURTHER.

I WAS JUST HOPING TO PULL IT BACK.

WITH THE, WITH THE WINDFALL FUNDING.

ANY OBJECTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AGAIN TO THE MONDAY AGENDA AND AGAIN, TONY, THIS NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BEFORE THE TOUCH.

ITEM IS E O.FINAL CONSENT LEGISLATION REST BERGMAN.

[ ODOT Final Consent Legislation]

UH, THIS LEGISLATION IS FOR FINAL RESOLUTION FOR THE ODAT RESURFACING OF OLD TROY PIKE, WHICH IS FROM JUST NORTH OF FISHBURG ROAD TO THE SOUTH CORPORATION LINE.

UH, THE WORK WILL BE MILLING AND PAVING OF THE FULL WIDTH OF OLD TROY PIKE, AND THEN RE STRIPING THE ROAD, UH, AS A PART OF THE PROJECT, THE CITY WAS REQUIRED BY ODAT TO REPLACE OVER 30 HANDICAP RAMPS ALONG THIS SECTION OF ROADWAY AT THE END OF LAST YEAR.

SO WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT.

UH, THIS PROJECT WILL BE BID OUT BY ODOD AND LATE JULY OR AUGUST, AND THE PAVING WILL OCCUR IN THE FARM, HOLD OUT, WE'LL MANAGE AND INSPECT ALL OF THE WORK.

UH, THE CITY WILL ULTIMATELY PAY AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $166,492, WHICH IS 20% OF THE TOTAL COST.

UH, THIS LEGISLATION IS JUST A FINAL AUTHORIZATION FROM MODA TO GO AHEAD WITH THE PROJECT.

AND IT STATES THAT WE AGREED TO APPROPRIATE THE MONEY FOR OUR SHARE OF THE COST.

SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

SOMEBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, RUSS YOU'D WANT TO SEE THIS ON MONDAY'S AGENDA.

IF WE COULD GET ANY COMMENTS OR OBJECTIONS MOVING THIS FORWARD TO MONDAYS AGENDA, SEEING NONE THAT'LL BE ON.

I HAD ONE OTHER THING I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, BRANT PIKE, THE SOUTH END WILL BE NEXT YEAR.

THAT SAME SPAN FROM THE CORP LINE TO THE FITCHBURG.

F BOARD AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS, SEWER WATER, AND SEWER ADVISORY BOARD APPOINTMENT.

[ Board and Commission Appointments * Citizens Water and Sewer Advisory Board Appointment]

TONY.

I WILL TAKE THAT ONE.

UH, THIS IS JUST ONE, UH, APPOINTMENT THIS EVENING FOR THE CITIZENS WATER AND SEWER ADVISORY BOARD.

UH, WE HAD ONE VACANCY.

WE HAD JUST ONE APPLICANT FOR THAT POSITION.

IT WAS INTERVIEWED BY THE CITY'S INTERVIEW PANEL.

UH, THE RECOMMENDATION IS THE APPOINTMENT OF LISA JETER, UH, TO THAT BOARD FOR A TERM ENDING JANUARY 1ST, 2025.

AND A BACKGROUND CHECK HAS BEEN PROCESSED THROUGH HUMAN RESOURCES.

UM, SO WITH THAT, WE WOULD ASK FOR COUNCIL'S APPROVAL TO, UH, PLACE THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR ADOPTION ON MONDAY.

ANY OBJECTION TO PLACING THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY? OKAY, THANK YOU.

[ Chambersburg Road West Improvements - Solicit RFQ]

NEXT ITEM IS G CHAMBERSBURG ROAD WEST IMPROVEMENTS, SOLICIT RFQ, RUSS BURGLAR.

YES, IT'S MINE.

UM, THIS LEGISLATION TO ALLOW THE CITY TO GO OUT FOR RFQ, WHICH ARE REQUESTS FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE WIDENING OF CHAMBERSBURG ROAD, GOING WEST FROM OLD TROY PIKE TO THE WEST CORPORATION LINE, WHICH IS JUST PAST THE ENDICOTT ROAD, UH, EARLY THIS YEAR, THE CITY RECEIVED FUNDING GRANT FUNDING FROM MY VALLEY REGIONAL PLANNING.

UH, IT WAS STP FUNDING, WHICH IS SURFACE TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM, AND THAT WILL HELP COVER A LARGE PORTION OF THE COST FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS.

UH, WE WILL RECEIVE 2.2 MILLION IN GRANT MONEY, WHICH IS 65% OF THE PROJECT COSTS.

UH, THE RE REMAINING 35% IS A CITY MATCH AT 1.3 MILLION, MAKING IT A TOTAL ESTIMATED PROJECT COST OF 3.5 MILLION.

UH, THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS WILL INCLUDE WIDENING THE ROAD FROM TWO LANES TO THREE LANES, UH, CUTTING DOWN THE ROAD TO REDUCE THE CREST THAT'S IN THE ROAD, UH, ADDING NEW CURB STORM, SEWER, WATER MAIN, AND A 10 FOOT CONCRETE BIKE CATH ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD AND A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD.

AND THIS IS SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO THE WIDENING WE'VE BEEN DOING ON CHAMBERS FOR GOING THROUGH THIS PROPOSAL.

WE USED TO OBTAIN A QUALIFIED ENGINEERING CONSULTANT TO DESIGN THE PROJECT TO CITIES IN ODAT STANDARDS.

AND THE PROJECT DESIGN REQUIRES MANY ODAT REVIEWS, AND IT IS A FIVE-YEAR PROCESS BEFORE CONSTRUCTION CAN BEGIN.

UM, WE'D LIKE TO GO OUT FOR PROPOSALS, UH, AND WHEN WE'RE COMPLETED, WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AT THAT TIME.

RESTS? YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THIS ON FOR MONDAY'S AGENDA TOO, SO WE CAN THE OBJECTIONS PUTTING IT ON FOR MONDAY.

THAT'S ALL RUSS.

YEP.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS IN

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THANKS ROSS.

IS A CASE BDP 2213 HARTMAN, UH, ONE LLC REZONING BASIC DEVELOPMENT PLANS, 76, 11 OLD TRADE BIKE, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

[ Case BDP 22-13 - Hartman I, LLC - Rezoning/Basic Development Plan - 7611 Old Troy Pike]

I, THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE FOR COUNSEL'S ATTENTION.

THIS IS THE STANDALONE, UH, EMERGENCY ROOM FACILITY THAT WE HAD SEEN A FEW WEEKS BACK.

UH, THIS IS TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IT APPEARS THAT THERE IS NOW A CONCEPT THAT ADDRESSES THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL PLANNING, COMMISSION CONCERNS, AND THAT IS HEADED BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A FORMAL, UH, BASICALLY KIND OF A REBOOT.

SO THEY WILL GO THROUGH THE FORMAL PROCESS ON THIS SITE PLAN, JUST BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN SO MANY ITERATIONS, IT WILL BE BACK BEFORE COUNCIL IN JULY.

SO JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR.

NOTHING ON MONDAY'S AGENDA ABOUT THAT.

THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE.

JUST AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM.

ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, GLENN? I WOULD JUST SAY, I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE COMPANY'S WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN AND ACCOMMODATE THANKS TO THEM.

THANKS.

POLICE DIVISION STAFFING LEVELS PRESENTATION, UH, BRIAN OR MARK, UH, JUST A, UM, AS WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WITH COUNSEL PREVIOUSLY, UH, IN ADVANCE OF THE UPCOMING BUDGET, WE WANTED TO PUT TOGETHER SOME PRESENTATIONS FROM THE BIG THREE ABOUT WHAT THEIR STAFFING NEEDS LOOK LIKE AS WE GO INTO THE FUTURE.

[ Police Division Staffing Levels Presentation]

YOU'VE HEARD CHIEF NICELY.

SO TONIGHT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM CHIEF LEITNER.

SO WITH THAT, UH, CHIEF, YOU'RE ALL SET TO GO.

ALRIGHT, THANKS FOR LETTING ME COME HERE AND TALK TO YOU TONIGHT.

THANKS.

UM, I'VE GOT SEVERAL SLIDES HERE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SCARE YOU WITH THE NUMBER BECAUSE A LOT OF IT'S INFORMATIONAL TYPE THINGS THAT I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH AND READ EACH SLIDE.

IT'S JUST FOR YOU TO LOOK AT PERUSE AND INFORMATIONAL TYPE THING THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN.

AND IT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO ASK ME, UM, LIKE OUR ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE.

I JUST INCLUDED THAT FOR YOU TO SEE HOW OUR ORGANIZED ORGANIZATION IS SET UP.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE OFFICE OF THE CHIEF OF POLICE, AND THEN WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT DIVISIONS THAT SUPPORT THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE OPERATIONS EACH MANAGED BY A, UH, A LIEUTENANT.

AND SO YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, UH, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, BUT THAT'S JUST FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT TO REVIEW.

WE HAVE ONE DETECTIVE ASSIGNED TO THE DEA TASK FORCE IN 13 AND 17.

MOST OF OUR STRATEGIES AT THE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, ARE ABOUT THE DELIVERY OF SERVICE OF PATROL AND INVESTIGATIONS.

AND USUALLY IT'S, IT'S DRIVEN BY TRADITIONAL POLICING, WHICH IS, UH, UM, WHICH IS REACTIVE.

WE REACT TO CALLS FOR SERVICE.

WE REACT TO CRIMES THAT OCCUR, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER PART OF THAT, WHICH IS PROBLEM SOLVING.

AND THAT IS TRYING TO FIND THE UNDERLYING PROBLEMS THAT ARE CAUSING, UM, THE CRIMES TO OCCUR.

AND THAT IS A WHOLE NOTHER AREA, WHICH IS PROACTIVE.

SO OUR CRIMES ARE DIVIDED INTO WHAT THEY CALL PART ONE CRIMES.

THIS IS CRIMES THAT WE REPORT TO THE STATE EVERY YEAR.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, BY OUR PART ONE CRIMES, I'VE DIVIDED INTO 2013, 2017 AND 2021.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, LIKE OUR LARCENIES, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'VE SEEN, UH, ROUGHLY ABOUT A 42% DECREASE, UM, SINCE 2013 TO 2021 IN BURGLARIES, WE'VE SEEN ROUGHLY A 56% DECREASE IN A ROBBERIES, A 78% DECREASE.

SO OUR PART ONE CRIMES, UM, FORTUNATELY HAD BEEN GOING DOWN.

AND I LIKE TO THINK THAT THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE DOING GOOD POLICE WORK.

SO WE PAT EVERYBODY ON THE BACK AND TELL THEM TO KEEP ON DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

SO IT, IT IT'S WORKING.

SO THIS IS THE NUMBER OF PERSONNEL THAT WE HAD THAT WE WERE AUTHORIZED TO HAVE IN 2013, THEN THAT'S 17 AND 21.

SO IN THAT TIME FROM 2013 TO 2021, WE'VE SEEN ABOUT AN 8% INCREASE IN STAFFING.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT APPRECIATES THAT BECAUSE THAT IS A PERCENT STABBING INCREASES.

WHAT COUNCIL HAS, UM, PERMITTED US TO, UH, AN AUTHORIZE US TO HAVE.

AND IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE THAT INCREASE THE, UH, UM, DEPUTY CHIEF POLICE, CHIEF LIEUTENANTS, UH, NUMBERS STAYED THE SAME BACK IN 2017, BETWEEN 17 AND OR 13 AND 17, WE INCREASED, UM, ONE SERGEANT POSITION AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THE NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS HAS, UH, HAS GONE UP BY, UH, BY THREE.

AND THEN ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE WHAT THE ALLOCATION IS AND WHERE WE ALLOCATE THOSE PERSONNEL, UH, PUBLIC AFFAIRS UNIT, UH, ONE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS.

WE HAVE TWO CURRENTLY DEA TASK FORCE.

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WE HAD 60 TACTIVA'S SINCE 17, WE HAVE ADDED TWO MORE DETECTIVES, UH, OUR PATROL, THIS IS ACTUAL OFFICERS ON THE ROAD.

WE'VE INCREASED BY ONE T DO WE HAVE SOMEONE ACTING AS THE, UH, ASSISTANT SHAPE? UH, YOUR DEPUTY CHIEF YOU'RE SHOWING US ZERO THERE.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT DEBT.

WE DON'T HAVE A DEPUTY CHIEF POSITION.

UH, I DON'T THINK YOU THINK IT'S NO, YOU'RE SHOWING A ZERO.

SO I'M WONDERING IF SOMEBODY ACTING IN THAT? NO, NO.

WE USED TO HAVE THAT POSITION.

UM, BUT WHEN, WHEN ROB SHOMER BECAME THE CHIEF OF POLICE, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT YEAR IT WAS.

HE DIDN'T FILL THAT POSITION AND THAT POSITION WAS, WAS REMOVED.

UM, I DON'T EVEN THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, I KNOW IT'S NOT A FUNDED POSITION AND I DON'T EVEN THINK IT'S A POSITION THAT'S EVEN ON THE BOOKS REALLY, RIGHT NOW.

IT WAS PRIOR TO THAT.

WHEN, WHEN, UH, UM, ROB SHOMER WAS THE DEPUTY CHIEF, HE WAS OUR LAST DEPUTY CHIEF.

ARE YOU MISSING HAVING A DEPUTY CHIEF? UH, NOT CURRENTLY.

WE HAVE THREE LIEUTENANTS CURRENTLY.

UM, SO AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW, UH, NO, NO.

AND WE HAVEN'T, SINCE, SINCE THAT TIME WE'VE BEEN FINE WITH OUR COMMAND STRUCTURE, THE WAY IT IS, AND THEN A ALLOCATION OF NON-SWORN PERSONNEL.

THIS IS A ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANTS, UH, COMMUNICATIONS OFFICERS, UM, RECORDS CLERKS, AND THEN OUR, UH, COMMUNICATIONS RECORD RECORDS MANAGER, DEBRA WILEY WAS ADDED.

UM, THAT POSITION WAS ADDED AROUND 2017.

AND THEN SHORTLY AFTER THAT, I THINK ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO AGO, WE ADDED THE COMMUNICATIONS RECORDS SUPERVISOR.

IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT IN TERMS OF, OF SUPERVISION ON A, IN PATROL, YOU WOULD LOOK AT THE COMMUNICATIONS RECORD MANAGER AS A LIEUTENANT.

SHE OVERSEES A SH A SECTION, A DIVISION, I'M SORRY, JUST A SECTION.

AND THEN THE COMMUNICATIONS RECORD SUPERVISOR WOULD BE LIKE A SERGEANT ON THE ROAD, A FIRST-LINE SUPERVISOR.

AND THAT IS WENDY MORRIS.

AND THIS IS JUST THE NUMBER OF, UH, THIS IS THE BEATS.

AND WE'VE GONE OVER THIS BEFORE IN A TOWN HALL MEETING THAT I HAD.

I WENT OVER TO THE BEAT STRUCTURE AND HOW IT'S DIVIDED.

YOU CAN GET A BETTER LOOK AT THAT CLOSER.

UM, I KNOW THE ROADS ARE SMALL ON THERE, BUT IT SHOWS YOU HOW THE CITY'S DIVIDED INTO FIVE DIFFERENT BEATS.

AND THEN THIS IS THE CALLS FOR IN EACH BEAT.

SO YOU WILL SEE THAT.

AND IN 2000 AND, UH, UM, AND THE ONE BEAT, FOR EXAMPLE, IN, IN, IN THE TUBI, SINCE 2013, UM, OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE HAVE GONE DOWN IN THE THREE BEAT.

OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE HAVE REMAINED PRETTY MUCH THE SAME, THAT NOT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE.

THE REASON FOR BEING HIGHER IN THE THREE BEAT THOUGH, IS THAT'S WHERE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS.

AND A LOT OF OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THE THREE BEAT ARE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, PEOPLE COMING IN TO FILE A REPORT.

SO THAT IS THE REASON WHY THE THREE BEAT ALWAYS HAD, HAS A LITTLE MORE, CAUSE WE HAVE TO FACTOR IN ALL THE CALLS FOR SERVICE OF, OF THE WALK-INS, UH, THAT FOLLOWED THE POINTS AND THE FOUR BEAT, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S, THAT'S GONE DOWN CONSIDERABLY SINCE, UH, 2013, AND THE FIVE BEAT HAS, UH, STAYED PRETTY CONSISTENT SINCE 2013 TO 2021, UH, THE FIVE BEAT, WHICH IS, UM, WELL, ALL OF OUR NEWER AREA UP THERE, UH, CARRIES TRAILS EVERYTHING NORTH OF 70 AND A WEST OF 2 0 1.

UM, WE'VE ONLY HAD ABOUT A 10% INCREASE.

SO IN 2013, WE HAD AROUND 5,300 CALLS FOR SERVICE THERE IN, UH, 2017, AROUND 5,400.

AND IN 2020 1 5900.

SO WE HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE IN THE FIVE WEEK CALLS FOR SERVICE CITYWIDE, UH, FROM 2013 TO 2021, WE'VE ONLY SEEN ABOUT A 3% INCREASE IN CALLS FOR SERVICE.

THIS IS JUST A BREAKDOWN OF A AVERAGE CALLS FOR SERVICE THIS, UH, PER DAY.

THIS IS A LITTLE HARD TO, TO SHOW JUST BECAUSE, UM, THERE'S 24 OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO WORK PATROL EACH DAY, SEVEN ON DAY SHIFT, EIGHT ON AFTERNOONS AND EIGHT OR NINE ON MIDNIGHTS.

BUT, UM, VERY FEW DAYS DO YOU'VE ACTUALLY HAD THAT NUMBER BECAUSE, UH, OFFICERS ARE ON REQUESTED OR DISCRETIONARY LEAVE DAYS.

SO IT'S NOT FULLY STAFFED ALL.

WE HAVE OUR MINIMUM STAFFING LEVELS, WHICH ARE, ARE LOWER THAN THAT, BUT THOSE ARE THE OFFICER'S ASSIGNED.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, THE NUMBER OF CALLS THEY'VE AVERAGED PER DAY IN 2013 TO 20 TO 2021, UM, HAS NOT, HAS NOT CHANGED CONSIDERABLY.

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THIS IS WHERE WE SEE THE BIGGEST CHANGE IS OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS.

THIS IS WHERE WE SEE THE BIGGEST INCREASE IN CALLS FOR SERVICE.

SO AT WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL, SINCE 2013, WE'VE SEEN ABOUT A 16% INCREASE IN CALLS FOR SERVICE.

AND WHY ISN'T IT MORE THAN WE'VE SEEN ABOUT A 55% INCREASE IN CALLS FOR SERVICE.

AND IF YOU TAKE ALL THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS COMBINED SINCE 2013, WE'VE SEEN ROUGHLY A 72% INCREASE IN CALLS FOR SERVICE.

NOW, SOME OF THIS, UM, FROM TALKING TO SCHOOL PERSONNEL IS, IS, IS DEPENDENT ON WHO THE PRINCIPAL IS AT THE SCHOOL AT THE TIME AND HOW OFTEN THEY CALL US OR HOW THEY HANDLE THINGS WITHIN.

SO YOU'LL SEE LIKE WRIGHT BROTHERS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN 2021, THEIR CALLS FOR SERVICE, UH, WENT UP ABOUT 87% FROM 2013.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE SEEING, UH, UM, MOST OF THE INCREASE IN CALLS FOR SERVICE THIS, BY HAVING THESE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS IN THE SCHOOL ALSO, I MIGHT WANT TO POINT OUT IT REALLY HELPS OUR OFFICERS ON THE ROAD, IN THE BEETS THAT ARE PUT INTO THOSE BEATS BECAUSE THESE OFFICERS AT THE SCHOOLS HANDLE THE CALLS FOR SERVICE.

SO WE'RE NOT PULLING OFFICERS OUT OF THEIR BEATS OR OFF THE ROAD TO HANDLE THESE CALLS FOR SERVICE.

UM, YES.

UM, DO YOU COLLECT DATA, UH, AND SHARE IT WITH THE SCHOOLS ON, UM, IT REALLY DISTURBS ME TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, SO ON THE NATURE OF THE CALLS AND, UM, PERHAPS SOME CORRECTIVE ACTIONS, UH, SOME, SOME HELP FOR THESE KIDS.

WE CAN, WE CAN RUN A REPORT FOR THE TYPES OF CALLS FOR SERVICE.

IN OTHER WORDS, I CAN HAVE OUR RECORD SECTION PUT IN THE WRIGHT BROTHERS ADDRESS AND RUN EVERY TYPE OF CALL FOR SERVICE WE'VE TAKEN THERE.

AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE LENGTHY.

OF COURSE, I DIDN'T BRING THAT TONIGHT, BUT THAT REPORT IS A REPORT WE CAN RUN AND SEE THE TYPES OF CALLS FOR SERVICE.

DOES THE SCHOOL REQUEST FEEDBACK, OR DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THROUGH THE, UH, DO THE SROI, WHETHER THEY'RE USING THAT DATA IN ANY WAY? YEAH, OUR, OUR, UH, OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS AND THE ADMINISTRATORS AT THE SCHOOLS WORK HAND IN HAND, I MEAN, THEY COMMUNICATE DAILY, UH, DURING, DURING SCHOOL HOURS AND OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL HOURS BECAUSE OUR SRO IS ALSO WORK A LOT OF, UH, EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES, ALSO DANCES, SPORTING EVENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THEY WORK TOGETHER WHEN IT COMES FROM INTERVIEWING TEACHERS AND, OR INTERVIEWING PARENTS, INTERVIEWING KIDS, UM, DISCIPLINE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY WORKED TOGETHER ON ALL THAT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT THEY, THEY COOPERATE WITH EACH OTHER ON.

SO INFORMATION SHARED IS SHARED ROUTINELY THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

AND I'LL GET TO A FURTHER IN THE SLIDE WITH MY REQUEST, BUT IN THIS SITUATION, WE HAVE ONE OFFICER AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, ONE AT, UH, WHY ISN'T IT MORE THAN THE ONE AT UNBORN, UH, WILL PERIODICALLY LEAVE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND VISIT, UM, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

THEY'LL TRY TO AT LEAST GET TO ONE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL A WEEK, WHICH ISN'T ENOUGH, WHICH I'LL EXPLAIN WHEN I GET FURTHER ALONG HERE.

BUT, UM, THAT WAY THEY, THE TEACHERS, THE KIDS AND THE STAFF AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WILL AT LEAST SEE THE FACE OF A POLICE OFFICER IN THEIR SCHOOL, MAYBE NOT EVERY WEEK, BUT PERIODICALLY.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF DOING A SAFETY TOWN AND SAFETY TOWN IS DOWN AT VALLEY FORGE.

AND, UH, A LOT OF THE YOUNG KIDS IN THE YOUTH SIGN UP FOR THAT.

AND OUR SORROWS DO PROGRAM SAFETY.

TELL YOU, I'VE SEEN IT BEFORE FROM LAST SUMMER AND WE'RE DOING IT AGAIN THIS SUMMER.

OF COURSE CAN ADJUST THEIR SCHEDULE ACCORDINGLY TO HANDLE, YOU KNOW, PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAVE.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

THE CALLS OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THEN THEY ARE COVERED BY ONE OF THE TWO, UH, SRO IS YOU HAVE, OR ARE THEY COVERED BY, UM, GENERALLY THE CALLS AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ARE COVERED BY AN OFFICER WORKING IN THE STREET.

SO WHEREVER THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS THE BEAT THAT THEY'RE IN, IT'S COVERED BY THE OFFICER WORKING THAT BEAT.

THIS IS THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF CALLS PER DAY.

UH, AGAIN, IT'S JUST ADDING THEM ALTOGETHER.

WE'VE SEEN ABOUT A 54% INCREASE IN, IN CALLS FOR SERVICE TO THE SCHOOLS.

THIS IS ALL SCHOOLS COMBINED FROM 13 TO 21.

SO I GET TO MY REQUEST AND MY REQUEST FOR 2023 IS TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER.

I HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, THE SCHOOL SECURITY AT THE SCHOOL.

UM, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS, UM, THEY ARE ON BOARD WITH AND EAGER TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER ASSIGNED TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

UM, ONE OFFICER ASSIGNED TO ALL FIVE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

SO THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO HIT EACH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, UH, AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK.

AND IF WE'RE HAVING A SPECIFIC PROBLEM AT A SCHOOL, THEN THAT SRO

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BUT THEY'LL ALSO SERVE AS AN EDUCATIONAL RESOURCE OFFICER.

THEY'LL DO CLASSROOM INSTRUCTION ASSEMBLIES, UH, MEET WITH STAFF AND PARENTS THEY'LL FORMULATE EDUCATIONAL CRIME PREVENTION PROGRAMS, UH, DISCUSS PLANS AND STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC ISSUES OR NEEDS THAT ARISE.

AND THEN THEY'LL OFFICER RESPOND TO AN INVESTIGATE CALLS FOR SERVICE WITHIN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

SO IF THEY HAPPEN TO BE A ONE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THEY HAVE, THEY CARRY TWO RADIOS, THEY CARRY THE POLICE RADIO AND THEY CARRY THE SCHOOL RADIO.

SO IF THERE ARE ONE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THEY GET CALLED ON THE RADIO FOR ANOTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PROBLEM, THEY CAN LEAVE THAT SCHOOL AND GO HANDLE THE SITUATION THERE TOO.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THAT ADDITIONAL SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER WILL BE ABLE TO DO.

SO THAT'S A REQUEST FOR 2023.

IT'S THE SCHOOL OPEN TO A COST SHARING? YES, YES.

WE'RE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WITH OUR TWO THAT WE HAVE, IT'S A 50% SPLIT, RIGHT.

AND YES THEY ARE.

AND NOW TRAINING TRAINING, UM, SINCE THE, UH, GEORGE FLOYD INCIDENT IN MINNESOTA, UH, CHANGING, UH, TRAINING HAS REALLY CHANGED A LOT FOR POLICE AND NOT ONLY WITH WHAT TRAINING WE HAVE TO COMPLETE, BUT, UM, HOW WE HAVE TO DOCUMENT IT.

SO THIS IS OUR CONTINUED PROFESSIONAL TRAINING.

CONTINUED PROFESSIONAL TRAINING IS REQUIRED TRAINING THAT EVERY OFFICER IN THE STATE OF OHIO HAS TO COMPLETE EVERY YEAR.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 24 MANDATORY HOURS THAT WE TO COMPLETE.

AND THEN IT BREAKS IT DOWN INTO THE AREAS THIS YEAR THAT THE STATE SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE, YOU'LL SEE THEIR CULTURE AND HUMILITY, RESPONDING TO MENTAL HEALTH, YOU SUPPORT SO ON AND SO FORTH.

AND HOW MANY HOURS WE HAVE TO HAVE, IF ANY PEACE OFFICER OR TROOPER IN THE STATE FAILS TO DO THIS, THEN THEY HAVE TO CEASE CARRYING A FIREARM AND THEY CAN'T PERFORM THE FUNCTIONS OF A PEACE OFFICER OR A TROOPER.

SO IT'S, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN THAT.

UM, EVERY OFFICER IS SCHEDULED FOR THIS AND WE'RE NOT, IT'S NOT A LAST MINUTE THING.

WE HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH IT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

UM, IT'S GOTTA BE DOCUMENTED THAT INFORMATION HAS TO BE SUPPLIED TO THE STATE OF OHIO.

AND THEN, UM, AND THEN WE GET MONEY IN, AND IT'S A GRANT THAT THE STATE HAS.

WE WILL GET MONEY, UM, BACK TO US THAT HAS TO BE USED FOR, UH, SALARIES, THE SALARIES WE HAVE TO SHOW HOW MANY HOURS EACH PERSON SPENT ON THE TRAINING, HOW MUCH THEY MADE DURING THAT TIME THEY WERE ON THE TRAINING.

AND THEN WE GET REIMBURSED FOR THAT.

IT'S IT'S LABOR INTENSIVE.

AND I HAVE ONE S ONE LIEUTENANT RIGHT NOW DOING IT, WHICH HE'S THE LIEUTENANT OVER PUBLIC AFFAIRS IN DETECTIVE SECTION.

AND MAJORITY OF HIS TIME IS TAKEN UP WITH TRAINING.

SO I'LL GET TO THAT LATER TOO.

AND THEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL TRAINING THAT WE HAVE TO DO.

UM, THAT'S THE YEARLY FIREARMS QUALIFICATIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED THAT WE HAVE TO DO EVERY YEAR TO QUALIFY, TO CARRY A GUN.

AND THEN THERE'S THE BUY-IN ANY, ANY ILL AND TRIENNIAL TRAINING REQUIREMENTS FOR CLIA.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S THE TRAINING FOR SPECIALIZED ASSIGNMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE POLICE DIVISION, LIKE ARI RT.

AND SO YOU GET YOU BASIC SWAT COURSES, YOU HAVE SNIPER, YOU HAVE HOSTAGE NEGOTIATION TRAINING, AND THEN WE HAVE THE NEW SUPERVISORS AND NEWLY PROMOTED.

UH, UM, AND I'LL, I'LL HAVE, I'LL BE BRINGING SOME NEWLY PROMOTED PEOPLE IN HERE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, CAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME PROMOTIONS.

SO WHENEVER ANYBODY'S PROMOTED, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO SEND THEM TO THE STEP, WHICH IS A SUPERVISORY PROGRAM.

AND IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A THREE AND A HALF.

IT'S A THREE WEEK PROGRAM, UH, SIMILAR TO PELKE WHERE WE SEND OUR LIEUTENANT LEVEL, UH, PEOPLE.

AND, UM, IT'S AN IN DEPTH TRAINING FOR YOU.

YOU STAY THERE FOR ONE WEEK IN COLUMBUS, THEN YOU COME BACK FOR LIKE TWO MONTHS AND YOU HAVE PAPERS.

YOU GOT TO WRITE AND RESEARCH, YOU HAVE TO DO, THEN YOU GO BACK FOR ANOTHER WEEK AND PRESENT ALL THAT.

THEN YOU GET MORE PAPERS.

UM, I THINK I INTERVIEWED YOU, UH, MR. CAMPBELL, WHEN I WAS IN IT BACK IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, WE HAD TO INTERVIEW, UM, CITY LEADERS IN THIS CITY AT THE TIME, FIVE DIFFERENT CITY LEADERS AND WRITE A PAPER ABOUT IT.

SO IT'S VERY GOOD TRAINING FOR SUPERVISION.

AND SO WE'LL BE SENDING PEOPLE TO THAT.

AND THEN WE HAVE DETECTIVES THAT HAVE TO GO TO KEEP UP ON CVSA, WHICH IS OUR TRUTH VERIFICATION DEVICE AND BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS AND DEATH INVESTIGATIONS.

AND SO YOU'LL SEE JUST ALL THE TRAINING THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH BESIDES THE CONTINUED PROFESSIONAL TRAINING.

AND THEN THERE'S THE ADDITIONAL INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL LIKE INTOXILYZER OPERATORS, FIREARMS INSTRUCTORS THAT HAVE TO STAY CERTIFIED BECAUSE MANY OF THESE CERTAIN CERTIFICATIONS EXPIRE AFTER THREE YEARS AND THEY NEED TO BE RENEWED.

SOME OF THEM HAVE TO BE RENEWED YEARLY, UH, LEADS, TAC OFFICER AND DISPATCH, UH, THE CVSA, LIKE I TOLD YOU, UH, OSI INSTRUCTOR, PEPPER BALL INSTRUCTOR, ASPEN INSTRUCTOR, JUST SO MUCH TRAINING AND RECERTIFICATION THAT HAS TO BE DONE.

UM, IT'S REALLY A FULL-TIME JOB.

SO MY REQUEST FOR 2023, THAT INFORMATION I JUST PROVIDED IS TO ADD AN ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT PERSON OR AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, A CIVILIAN,

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UM, THAT WILL BE, UM, FOR A LACK OF BETTER WORDS, A TRAINING COORDINATOR, THAT PERSON WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING, UM, ALL THE TRAINING FILES, UH, SCHEDULING EVERYBODY FOR TRAINING, TRACKING THE TRAININGS, SUPPLYING ALL THE INFORMATION TO THE STATE, MANAGING THE, THE, THE, UH, THE INFORMATION THAT'S GOING TO THE STATE AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS UP ON THEIR, UH, BIENNIAL TRIENNIAL, UH, TRAINING ALONG WITH THE RECERTIFICATIONS.

AND THAT'S, UH, I DON'T NECESSARILY NEED A SWORN POLICE OFFICER TO DO THAT.

UM, AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, A CIVILIAN PERSONNEL THAT WILL WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THE LIEUTENANTS AND MYSELF, UM, TO, TO MAKING SURE THAT THIS GETS DONE.

AND THEN ALSO THAT SAME LIEUTENANT THAT HAS BEEN DOING TRAINING, UM, HANDLES ALL OF OUR SPECIAL EVENT AND PRIVATE SECURITY DETAILS.

WELL, WE, THIS TIME OF YEAR WAS A VERY BUSY TIME FOR PRIVATE SECURITY AND ESPECIALLY MEN DETAILS THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER WITH 40 CONCERTS A YEAR, AND WE PUT FIVE OR SIX OFFICERS UP THERE, EVERY CONCERT.

UM, SO THEY, THEY, UH, HE HAS TO, HE HAS TO COORDINATE AND ALL THAT AND GET ALL THE PEOPLE ASSIGNED AND ADD THE CONCERTS TO THE LIST.

UM, AND THEN THE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT FOR THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION SECTION, WHICH ISN'T GOING TO BE, ISN'T GOING TO BE AS MUCH IN AS BUSY WORK AS WHAT THE TRAINING COORDINATOR PART IS.

AND THEN JUST TO FILL IN, WE HAVE TWO OTHER, I HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, AND THEN WE HAVE A POLICE PROGRAMS TECHNICIAN, AND BEING ABLE TO FILL IN FOR THAT PERSON, UH, MAYBE NOT KNOW, UH, MAYBE HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL VIEW OF WHAT THEY DO ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS WHERE THEY CAN AT LEAST COVER FOR THEM.

IF THEY'RE GONE.

UM, THEY MAY NOT GET BE ABLE TO GET DOWN IN THE WEEDS AND EVERYTHING THEY DO, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE SO BUSY WITH THIS, BUT, UM, BUT JUST A PERSON THERE'S ALSO THAT CAN FILL IN WHEN SOMEONE IS OUT OF THE OFFICE.

SO MY REQUEST FOR 2023 IS TO, TO, TO FUND THAT POSITION, TO HIRE AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.

I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON THE COMMUNICATION CENTER.

OUR COMMUNICATION CENTERS, STAFF WERE 14 COMMUNICATIONS OFFICERS, A SUPERVISOR, AND A MANAGER.

AND YOU'LL SEE HERE, I BROKE THESE DOWN 17, 18, 19, 20 AND 21.

SO THE AMOUNT OF CALLS THAT WE RECEIVED INTO THE COMMUNICATION CENTER HAS ACTUALLY GONE DOWN ABOUT 8%, HOWEVER, OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE CAUSE WE DISPATCH FOR SIX AGENCIES, THREE FIRE, AND THREE POLICE, UH, HAS INCREASED 13%.

I JUST WANTED MAINLY GET YOU AN IDEA HERE.

I'M NOT REALLY ASKING ANYTHING AT THIS POINT FOR, UH, UH, COMMUNICATIONS.

I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA ON WHAT THE CALL LEVEL IS THAT COMES INTO THE CENTER.

UH, THE AVERAGE PHONE CALLS PER DISPATCHER PER DAY, BECAUSE WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, MAYBE IN 2024, BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THIS DATA AGAIN, BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS STUFF THAT WE'VE DONE IN 20 AND 21, UM, WE PUT A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE WITH, WITH OUR OFFICERS, UM, DURING THE, ALL THE COVID RESTRICTIONS TO LIMIT CONTACT WITH PEOPLE OUT HERE ON THE STREET, JUST TO KEEP OUR PEOPLE SAFE.

SO WE DIDN'T HAVE OUR PEOPLE COMING DOWN WITH THE VIRUS.

SO WE WERE LI WE LIMITED OUR CONTACT WITH PEOPLE.

UH, WE WERE, WE TOLD THE PATROL, WE SAID, YOU KNOW, UNLESS SOMETHING'S DOING SOMEBODY IS DOING SOMETHING PRETTY SERIOUS.

UM, YOU KNOW, DON'T, DON'T STOP EVERYTHING MOVING, YOU KNOW, UH, DURING THE LOCKDOWN NOW DURING THE ACTUAL LOCKDOWN, WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC OUT THERE ANYWAY.

SO THOSE NUMBERS ARE OUR NUMBER OF TRAFFIC CITATIONS ISSUED.

UM, OUR AMOUNT OF CONTACTS WITH THE PUBLIC, UM, WAS DOWN.

I CAN SEE NOW THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE STARTING TO GET OUT OF THIS POST COVID RESTRICTION ERA THAT, UH, HERE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT DATA AGAIN AND, AND SEE, UH, WHAT KIND OF EFFECT THAT DID HAVE ON OUR ENFORCEMENT AND OUR CONTACTS WITH THE PUBLIC.

AND AT THAT TIME, IF I SEE THAT THERE'S A NEED TO INCREASE IN THE AREA OF PATROL, UM, THEN I'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU, UM, WITH, WITH NEW INFORMATION, HOPEFULLY SOME INFORMATION THAT'LL GIVE US A BETTER IDEA, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THAT HAD ANY BEARING ON THE NUMBERS.

UH, BRIAN, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD INCLUDE IN THE 2023 BUDGET PRESENTATION WHEN THAT'S READY? WE WILL LOOK TO PUT ALL OF THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER, AS WELL AS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WITH THE BIG THREE, AND THEN WE'LL LET COUNCIL MAKE THE FINAL DETERMINATION, UH, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT CUMULATIVE RESOURCES, BUT WE WOULD LOOK TO INCLUDE THESE JUST LIKE WE WOULD A CHIEF NICELYS REQUESTED PERSONNEL.

AND DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OTHER THAN THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT? NO, SIR.

NONE AT THIS TIME, BUT, UH, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

SO THE TONE I HEARD CHIEF IS THAT YOU BEAR HEIGHTS IS MORE SAFE THAN EVER, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I KNOW COUNCIL APPRECIATES THAT ON BEHALF OF ALL OF OUR CITIZENS.

SO THANK YOU.

ANY COMMENTS? A GLIMPSE.

THAT I'VE EVER REALLY HAD ANY CONCERN WITH THAT, IT SEEMS YOU GUYS HANDLE YOUR BUSINESS PRETTY WELL.

CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

IT ALL MADE PERFECT SENSE TO ME.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, THE ONLY AREA

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UM, BUT WE'VE PICKED UP ADDITIONAL COMMUNITIES THROUGH OUR DISPATCH CENTER, AND I KNOW WE'VE GROWN AS A COMMUNITY AND ARE WE KEEPING UP THAT WAY? CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF THE FIRST TOUCH THAT PEOPLE GET AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE FOLKS ARE FULLY PREPARED TO, OR ABLE TO HANDLE THEIR, THEIR JOBS.

WE ARE VERY GOOD THERE.

AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S UM, THERE'S A TIME PERIOD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

I THINK IT'S A, WITHOUT DEBORAH HERE TO TELL ME, AND SHE'LL, SHE'S, HOPEFULLY SHE'S NOT WATCHING THIS AND SHE'LL CORRECT ME.

UM, I WANT TO SAY IT'S BETWEEN TWO OR THREE IN THE MORNING, LIKE EIGHT IN THE MORNING.

UM, WHERE WE, WHERE WE DROPPED DOWN A LITTLE BIT IN OUR STAFFING, GENERALLY WE HAD THREE DISPATCHERS IN THE CENTER AT A TIME.

UM, BUT THERE'S ONLY A CERTAIN PERIOD OF THE DAY, UM, THAT WE DROPPED DOWN AND THAT HASN'T AFFECTED WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO OUR SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC, THE ABILITY TO ANSWER THE CALLS FOR SERVICE AND GET THE CALLS OUT QUICKLY THAT HASN'T HASN'T, WE HAVEN'T BEEN AFFECTED BY THAT.

AND I KNOW EVERY TIME I GO IN THERE, THOSE, THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE AS BUSY AS THEY CAN, THE HARD WORK AND BUNCH I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, THERE'S THOSE DISPATCHERS, IT TAKES A SPECIAL PERSON TO WORK THAT.

UH, I HAVE, UH, ANITA DAWN AND THEN NANCY, ANITA, PLEASE.

UM, I WAS JUST WONDERING, UM, MY AREA WHERE I LIVE, WE HAVE TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

UM, IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME MORE PATROLLING GOING ON OR CAN WE GET SOME MORE PATROLLING? BECAUSE I AM JUST, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE THE RACING THAT GOES DOWN SOME OF THESE STREETS, AND I'M JUST REALLY WORRIED.

KIDS ARE GOING TO GET HIT, ESPECIALLY DURING, BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL.

AND I'VE HAD A LOT OF CITIZENS STRESS THEIR CONCERNS.

SO RIGHT.

THE SCHOOL HAS SECURITY PERSONNEL, OF COURSE, THAT ARE THERE.

UM, WHEN SCHOOL LETS OUT AND THEN, THEN THE STAFF ALSO ASSISTS KNOW WITH, WITH THE DISMISSAL IN THEIR ARRIVAL OF KIDS TO THE SCHOOL, BUT WITH THIS ADDITIONAL SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER ASSIGNED TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, YES, THAT ONE WILL BE ONE JOB OF THEIRS IS TO ASSIST WITH KIDS COMING TO SCHOOL AND KIDS BEING RELEASED FROM SCHOOL AND TO BE PRESENT AND BE VISIBLE AND BE OUT THERE.

UM, WE DO GET COMPLAINTS NOT ONLY AROUND SCHOOL ZONES, BUT ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND WE DO HAVE WHAT WE CALL AN EXTRA PATROL LIST, THAT EXTRA PATROL.

UH, SO IF AN OFFICER IS IN THEIR CAR AND THEY PULL UP THEIR COMPUTER, IT'S WHAT WE CALL A PORTAL AND THEY CAN SEE, UM, THEY CAN CLICK ON THEIR BEAT AND IN THEIR BEAT IS THEIR LIST OF EXTRA PATROLS.

SO IF SOMEBODY CALLS IN AND IT SAYS, WE GOT PEOPLE SPEEDING UP AND DOWN, UH, STONEHOUSE BECAUSE IT'S ONE STRAIGHTAWAY.

UM, AND WE'D LIKE EXTRA PATROL.

WE CAN, MYSELF AND LIEUTENANT SERGEANT, WHOEVER CAN PUT THAT INTO THE PORTAL.

AND THEN WHEN THAT BEAT OFFICER LOGS IN, THEY LOOK AT THEIR BEAT, THEY CAN SEE THAT THAT'S BEEN ADDED, THAT THEY WANT, WE OWN EXTRA PATROL FOR SPEED ENFORCEMENT AT THAT LOCATION.

AND THEN THEY'LL LOG THAT ACTIVITY AND LOG THAT ENFORCEMENT.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE TWO, THE THREE PORTABLE SPEED SIGNS THAT WE ARE THE TWO PORTABLE SPEED SIGNS THAT WE PUT OUT ONE ON CARRIE'S TRAILS AND ONE ON HARTSVILLE.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE PORTABLE ONES THAT WE CAN TAKE WHEREVER THE PERMANENT ONES ARE.

YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THEM ALREADY.

UM, BUT YEAH, WE, WE HAVE A, ALSO A PUBLIC AFFAIRS UNIT MADE UP OF A SERGEANT, SERGEANT CARR AND AN OFFICER NICK LAMBERT.

AND THEN NICK LAMBERT WAS A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER FOR LIKE FIVE YEARS BEFORE HE BECAME OUR, OUR PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICER.

SO, UH, WHEN THERE IS ADDITIONAL NEED AT THE SCHOOLS, UM, HE GOES OUT AND THIS, THIS ALSO BECAUSE OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS ARE PART OF THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS UNIT.

THAT'S ALL, AND THEY'RE ON THE SAME UNIT TOGETHER.

SO SERGEANT BRIAN CARR, HE WILL GO TO THE SCHOOLS WHEN NEEDED TO, TO ASSIST.

SO WE HAVE A WHOLE UNIT THAT THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THEIR PRIMARY DUTY, THOSE TWO GUYS, BUT IF THEY'RE NEEDED AT A SCHOOL OR THERE'S, OR THERE'S A REQUEST, LIKE I SAID, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE YOU SAID, FOR, FOR SPEED ENFORCEMENT AFTER SCHOOL, THEY CAN GO ASSIST WITH THAT ALSO TOO.

I'M JUST, I, I LIVE IN ALTAR, SO I LIVE NEAR ST.

PETE'S AND THREE, FOUR BLOCKS FROM MONTICELLO AND LIKE THE INTERSECTION OF ALTAR AND HEMINGWAY.

I MEAN, I CANNOT EVEN BELIEVE HOW MANY PEOPLE JUST RUN THAT INTERSECTION.

MY KIDS ARE TRYING TO CROSS STREETS AND I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF SCREECHING THAT GOES ON THERE AND I'M JUST LIKE TERRIFIED THAT SOME CHILD'S GOING TO GET HIT AND KILLED AROUND THAT AREA.

CAUSE THERE'S JUST SO MANY KIDS GOING TO THOSE TWO SCHOOLS.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE COULD POSSIBLY DO ABOUT THAT EXTRA PATROL ENFORCEMENT.

SO OTHERWISE I THINK YOU GUYS DO A WONDERFUL JOB AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, DON WEBB.

THANKS.

UH, CHIEF, YOU'RE THE LARCENY NUMBER WE'RE PULLING ME AWAY ON THERE BY THE WAY, THE LARSON.

OH YEAH.

SO DO YOU, JUST FROM THE HIP, DO YOU GUYS EVER TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, BUSINESS COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL AS A PERCENTAGE OF CALLS? DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WEIGHTED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? NO.

THE REASON I ASKED THAT IS TRYING TO LOOK AT YOUR, UM, BEAT BY BEAT CRAFTS AND FIGURE OUT IF, UM, THE HIGH VOLUME OF RETAIL IN SOME AREAS MIGHT DRIVE THOSE CALLS MORE.

I WAS JUST, UH, UH, THAT, THAT ISN'T A BREAKOUT THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY DO.

UM,

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AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE LARCENIES THAT YOU LOOK AT ARE SHOPLIFTERS AND, AND EACH LOT, A LOT OF THE BIGGER DEPARTMENT STORES LIKE KOHL'S AND WALMART AND TARGET AND PLACES LIKE THAT HAVE THEIR OWN LOSS PREVENTION DEPARTMENT.

AND THEY, THEY WORK AND THEY WORK AT WELL AND THEY CONTACT US AND WE WORK WELL WITH THEM AND, UH, AND THAT'S EVEN DOWN NOW, THERE WAS A TIME, UM, WHEN HEROIN WAS PRETTY HEAVY, THAT, THAT, THAT WAS OCCURRING A LOT MORE THE FEST, BUT, UM, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONE DOWN A LOT.

THAT'S DECREASED A LOT OF THAT, THE HEROIN USE AND THE USE OF, UH, OF, UH, NARCAN AND ALL THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF HAS DECREASED WITH YOU GUYS, BUT IT HAS WITH US.

SO THAT KIND OF HAS AN EFFECT ON CRIME ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE DRUG OF CHOICE AND, AND, UH, WHAT THEY NEED THE MONEY FOR.

CHIEF, UM, YOU WERE MENTIONING ABOUT YOU'RE A PERSON WHO TRACKS ALL YOUR TRAINING AND EVERYTHING, OR ARE THERE ANY, UH, TOOLS, ADDITIONAL TOOLS THAT YOU GUYS NEED THAT WOULD HELP YOU, UH, B THAT WOULD RELIEVE SOME OF THE BURDEN IN THE END, YOUR DATA ENTRY AND ANALYSIS.

UH, WE JUST NEED A CIVILIAN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO, TO TAKE THE TIME AND HAVE THE TIME TO ACTUALLY DO THAT.

AND IF THEY CAN, IF THAT PERSON CAN, UH, CAN FOCUS THEIR TIME ON THAT.

I MEAN, THE LIEUTENANT'S GETTING IT DONE NOW.

THEY ASKED YOU I DID IT WHEN I WAS A LIEUTENANT.

I WAS OVER PATROL WHEN I WAS A LIEUTENANT AND THEN LIEUTENANT ASHLEY HAS DONE IT.

I PUT HIM OVER IT WHEN I BECAME CHIEF EIGHT YEARS AGO AND I HAVEN'T TAKEN IT AWAY FROM IT HE'S BEGGING ME TO, BUT I HAVEN'T.

SO IT, IT, IT TAKES UP A LOT OF TIME, BUT I THINK THE, I THINK THAT WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT WHO CAN FOCUS THEIR TIME ON IT AND, UM, AND REALLY PUT, YOU KNOW, MORE OF AN EFFORT INTO IT THAT IT'LL, IT'LL STREAMLINE IT A LOT.

HE'S GONNA SHOW YOU A BIG, ALL RIGHT.

LIGHTENER FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR CAMPBELL.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

UM, I'M TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF THE ASSISTANT, CAUSE I DO THINK SOMEONE WOULD SAVE OUR COST PER HOUR.

IF WE HAD SOMEBODY IN LESSER SOUR THAN A LIEUTENANT DOING IT.

UM, MY ONLY COMMENT WOULD BE, I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE ENOUGH TO DO, BUT MAYBE BRIAN CAN TAKE THIS OVER.

AND THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER, UM, JUST A 200,000 FOOT LEVEL OF THERE'S AN INCIDENT.

I BELIEVE WE GOT NOTIFICATION FROM ONE OF YOU WHEN THE CRUISER WAS WRECKED AND THERE WAS A, LIKE JUST WORD 1:00 AM JUST A VERY 200,000 FOOT LEVEL, FIVE SENTENCES KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED.

AND THE CRUISER IS ACCIDENT.

THE CRUISE WILL BE TOTALED OR JUST KIND OF WHATEVER HAPPENED IF IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE MEDIA.

I THINK MR. SHAW HAS BROUGHT THAT UP, BUT I THINK WE WOULD APPRECIATE JUST THE OVERVIEW AT A HIGH LEVEL.

AND I DON'T WANT TO INTERFERE WITH ANY INVESTIGATIONS OR COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND BECAUSE WHEN THEY ASK US, WE'RE LIKE TOTALLY CAUGHT OFF GUARD.

CAUSE I DON'T FOLLOW THE SIRENS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.

LIKE I JUST, OKAY, THANK YOU.

YEP.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR CHIEF.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE PRESENTATION.

THAT'S VERY INFORMATIVE.

UM, GOING FORWARD, UM, AFTER THIS YEAR IN FUTURE BUDGETS IS MY QUESTION.

HAS THERE BEEN SOME DISCUSSION, UH, WITH THE SRO THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING, UH, FOR THE ELEMENTARY? SO IF YOU HAVE ONE SRO AND FIVE ELEMENTARY IS THAT'S BASICALLY ONE DAY A WEEK, HAS THERE BEEN SOME DISCUSSION, IS THERE A PLAN? IS THERE A, UH, CONCERN, UH, ABOUT ADDING FUTURE SRO OFFICERS, PERHAPS ONE FOR EACH ELEMENTARY AND THAT'S COMING OFF OF THE, UH, RECENT SHOOTING AND YOU VALIDATE TEXAS AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THERE AS WELL AS IN THE PAST WITH NEWTOWN, CONNECTICUT AND SANDY HOOK.

UM, IS THERE A PLAN OR HAS THERE BEEN SOME DISCUSSION WITH EXTENDING THAT, UM, THROUGHOUT THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, POSSIBLY THERE HASN'T ANY SERIOUS DISCUSSION WITH THE SCHOOL ON THAT? UM, I DID SPEAK, UH, THE DAY AFTER THE SHOOTING IN TEXAS.

UM, I DID SPEAK WITH THE, WITH THE SUPERVISOR SECURITY DAVE FORWARD.

AND HE DID ASK ABOUT, UH, WHAT WOULD, WHAT, WHAT WOULD THE COSTS LOOK LIKE TO HAVE AN OFFICER IN EVERY SCHOOL? OF COURSE IT'S, IT'S HIGH.

FIVE OFFICERS, EVEN IF WE SPLIT IT 50, 50, NO SERIOUS, NO SERIOUS CONVERSATION.

UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT MORE OFFICERS IN THE SCHOOL AT THIS TIME, BUT I MEAN, IF THE SCHOOL BOARD AND OUR CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSES IT AND SEES THE NEED, OF COURSE, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY

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TO ENTERTAIN THAT.

AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT NECESSARILY RECOMMENDING FOR THAT, BUT IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT COME ACROSS MY MIND WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS AND YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY IT'S SUCH A DIFFICULT ISSUE TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND, YOU KNOW, GOD FORBID THAT SHOULD EVER HAPPEN TO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT YOU CAN'T FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT THAT HAPPENING ANYWHERE ELSE EITHER.

SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I WAS INTERESTED IF THAT CONVERSATION HAD TAKEN PLACE.

UH, IF THAT IS A CONCERN OF THE SCHOOLS, OBVIOUSLY, AND I KNOW THE SCHOOLS WOULD THEY FOR A LITTLE BIT WITH THEIR OWN SECURITY AS WELL, BUT, UH, THERE'S NOTHING BETTER THAN A WELL-TRAINED HUBER HEIGHTS POLICE OFFICER, WITHOUT A DOUBT.

AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS GOING TO DISAGREE WITH THAT.

UH, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR KEEPING THE CITY SAFE.

IT'S A FANTASTIC DEPARTMENT.

YOU HAD, IT WAS FANTASTIC WHEN YOU TOOK OVER AND YOU'VE KEPT THAT UP.

SO, UH, JUST ACES ALL AROUND.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

THANKS CHIEF LIGHTENER AND FOR COUNSELORS, UH, INFORMATION, UM, THE PRESENTATION WILL BE SENT OUT TOMORROW ELECTRONICALLY TO EACH OF US.

ANITA.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS, I MEAN THE ONE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WAS JUST RIGHT UP THERE WITH WHY ISN'T BOARD IT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY FEEL WHY IT'S SO HIGH IN THE ONE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BECAUSE THERE'S NUMBERS ALMOST WOULD HAVE ONE OFFICER THEMSELVES COMPARED TO THE OTHER FOUR, DO YOU, IS THERE, YOU KNOW, WHY IS IT BORN? YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN OFFICER IN THAT SCHOOL ALL THE TIME.

THEY HAVE AN OFFICE THERE AND THEY'RE IN THAT SCHOOL, JUST LIKE THE HIGH SCHOOL, BUT THE ONE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WAS, THE NUMBERS WAS UP YES.

WHERE IT WAS.

AND I ASKED THAT, I ASKED THAT QUESTION ALSO, AND THE ANSWER I GOT WAS IT JUST OF DEPENDS ON WHO THE PRINCIPAL IS IN THAT SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME PRINCIPAL FOR, IT SEEMS LIKE FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME, A LOT OF TIMES THEY SWITCH AND THEY GET A DIFFERENT HEAD PRINCIPAL IN THE SCHOOL.

BUT, UM, THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE RESPONSE TO ME IS IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE, THE STAFF AND THE PRINCIPAL AND THE SCHOOL AND HOW OFTEN THEY CALL FOR OUR ASSISTANCE OR HANDLE THINGS THEMSELVES OR SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S PRETTY DRASTIC.

UM, BUT I CAN'T THINK OF ANY.

NOW WE HAD, WE DO GET CALLS UP THERE AT THAT SCHOOL AFTER HOURS ON THE WEEKEND, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CALLS.

I KNOW ON THE LOG I'VE SEEN WHERE KIDS HAVE GONE UP ON THE ROOF AFTER HOURS ON THE WEEKENDS.

AND YOU KNOW, IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD UP THERE AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL RIDE AROUND THE SCHOOLS AND PEOPLE WILL CALL IN A SUSPICIOUS, YOU KNOW, CALL IT KIDS BEING AROUND THE SCHOOL.

WE GET A LOT OF THAT UP THERE.

AND SOME OF THAT'S GONNA FACTOR THAT AND NOT ALL THIS IS SCHOOL HOUR CALLS.

THERE'S GOING TO BE CALLS AFTER HOURS TO, YEAH.

THAT WAS JUST KIND OF AN ALARMING NUMBER COMPARED TO THE OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

[ Grant Application - Fire Division]

NEXT ITEM.

J GRANT APPLICATION, FIRE DIVISION, CHIEF NAMED CHIEF NICELY.

YOU'LL GO HANDLE THAT FORCE.

PART OF OUR GRANT ASKS WOULD BE, UH, WOULD BE TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH THEM, UH, TO WHERE THEY WOULD COME OUT.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.

UM, SO BACK, UH, ON THE FIRST WEEK OF MAY, I THINK MAY 5TH, UH, THE GOVERNOR HAS ANNOUNCED THAT, UH, THERE'S $70 MILLION OF FUNDING, UH, THROUGH THE, UH, A, UH, THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT THAT HE HAS DEDICATED TOWARDS FIRST RESPONDER WELLNESS, RECRUITMENT, RETENTION, RESILIENCY, UM, UH, BATTALION CHIEF, BALDLY ATTENDED A WEBINAR.

AND THEN ALSO, UH, SOMEONE IN HR ALSO ATTENDED THAT.

SO WE COULD SEE WHAT OPPORTUNITIES WE HAD.

UH, WHAT WE HAVE COME OUT WITH IS, IS THAT, UH, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE A SECTION IN THERE THAT WE CAN HIRE PEOPLE.

UH, YOU CAN ADD SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT OR SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT OF OUR CURRENT AUTHORIZED STAFFING IS FOUR.

SO IT KIND OF COINCIDES WITH OUR STAFFING REQUESTS FOR NEXT YEAR THAT WE COULD ADD UP TO FOUR PEOPLE.

UH, SO A BATTALION CHIEF ONLY PUT TOGETHER A PACKAGE THAT WOULD INCLUDE FUNDING FOR TWO YEARS, FOR FOUR PEOPLE.

UH, THAT'S THREE FIREFIGHTERS IN THE ONE CAPTAIN'S POSITION.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY.

THE FIRE DIVISION HAS A RIGHT NOW IT'S A VOLUNTEER MEDICAL DIRECTOR.

UH, UH, I'VE BEEN, I'VE TALKED WITH SCOTT ABOUT THIS AND TALK WITH BRIAN ABOUT THIS.

AND, UH, WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IS POSSIBLY BRINGING HIM ON A PART-TIME AT SOME POINT IN TIME, AND WE BELIEVE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS PROGRAM TO HIRE WHAT WOULD BE CALLED A WELLNESS COORDINATOR AS A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE AND BUILD A FUND THAT FOR TWO YEARS, UH, OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE FUNDING FOR TWO YEARS.

AND OUR NUMBER ONE JOB WOULD BE IS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN BEST UTILIZE THE, THE, THIS, THIS WELLNESS COORDINATOR.

UH, WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF BIG PICTURE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO, UH, WITH HAVING THAT FULL-TIME WELLNESS COORDINATOR.

UH, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS, CHIEF LIGHTENER AND I BOTH ATTENDED A MEETING WITH THE KETTERING MEDICAL CENTER, CHIEF WHITE AND HER STAFF, UH, ATTENDED, UH, WITH US, UH, KEVIN KETTERING HEALTH NOW HAS A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH GROUP THAT IS DESIGNED CIRCLING FOR FIRST RESPONDERS.

AND, UH, WHAT, UH,

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AND THEY WOULD DO TWO STATION VISITS A MONTH WHERE THEY WOULD BASICALLY COME OUT AND TALK TO OUR PEOPLE, SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY NEEDS.

UH, ALSO THEY WOULD COORDINATE WITH OUR COMMAND AND OUR PURE FITNESS GROUP.

UH, SO THE, UH, THE FIREFIGHTERS UNION HAS SENT PEOPLE TO TRAINING ON HOW TO BE PEER SUPPORT PERSONNEL.

AND SO KETTERING HEALTH WOULD MEET WITH THE COMMAND STAFF.

THEY WOULD ALSO MEET WITH THE PEER SUPPORT PEOPLE TRYING TO FIND, YOU KNOW, ANY SORT OF BUMPS, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT MIGHT NEED NEEDS NEED SOME EXTRA TIME.

UH, AND THEN OF COURSE THE CAUSE RIGHT NOW THE PROGRAM WE HAVE WOULD BASICALLY USE OUR ACCRUED BENEFITS THAT THE CITY GIVES US, YOU KNOW, UH, OUR HEALTH INSURANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, SO THAT IS KIND OF THE PICTURE.

UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL TWEAKING A COUPLE OF NUMBERS, BUT THE ASK WOULD BE FOR ABOUT $940,000 IN THE BALLPARK OF $940,000.

UH, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S $70 MILLION, UH, OPEN TO FIRST RESPONDERS IN THE STATE OF OHIO.

THE DEADLINE IS JUNE 17TH.

UH, WE GOT HERE PRETTY MUCH AS QUICK AS WE COULD AFTER ATTENDING THE MAY 13TH, UH, WEBINAR AND PUTTING TOGETHER A PROGRAM.

SO THAT WOULD BE OUR ASK IS TO ALLOW US TO, UH, UH, GET AUTHORIZATION, TO, UH, APPLY AN ACCEPTIVE IF AWARDED, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO EVALUATE THE ENTIRE PACKAGE.

WE MAY GET ONE STEP.

WE MAY GET TWO STEPS.

I MEAN, EVEN IF WE JUST GET THE PART FOR KETTERING HEALTH NETWORK, IT WOULD HELP OUR HELP OUR MISSION OUT GREATLY.

SO TONIGHT YOU'RE HERE NEEDING TO HAVE THIS PUT ON MONDAY'S AGENDA.

SO MY FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO PUTTING THIS ON MONDAY'S AGENDA? OKAY.

AND ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, GLENN, AS ALWAYS CHIEF, YOU GUYS KILLED IT IN THE GRAND DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

WE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO MORE THINGS.

WE NEED TO GROW OPERATIONS, AND ANYTIME WE CAN PULL GRANTS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT, THAT'S A BIG BONUS.

AND BATTALION CHIEF BOTTOMLEY IS, UH, HE'S ALREADY DONE A COUPLE LOWER KEY NON FORMATTED GRANTS WHERE WE'VE GONE OUT AND BASICALLY KIND OF BANKED SOME PEOPLE FOR MONEY.

SO HE'S KIND OF TAKING THE, UH, TAKING THE BALL WITH THE GRANDSON MOVING, AND I HOPE THAT YOU'LL BE SEEING HIM A LOT HERE IN THE FUTURE WITH, YOU KNOW, FUTURE GRANTS.

WE'D SEE THIS ON MONDAY'S AGENDA TEST, SIR.

[ City Staffing Levels/Table Of Organization * City Staffing Levels/Table Of Organization]

K CITY STAFFING LEVELS, TABLE OF ORGANIZATION.

UH, WE HAVE A CITY STAFFING LEVELS TABLE, ORGANIZATION, AND PARKS MINISTRATIVE CODE AND BRIDES CODIFIED ORDINANCE CHANGES AND SO ON.

UM, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'LL HANDLE TONIGHT, BRIAN? OKAY.

UH, TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM OR AT LEAST THESE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE ON, UM, THIS PARTICULAR SECTION OF THE AGENDA, UH, WITH THE DEPARTURE OF, UH, SEVERAL MEMBERS OF STAFF AT THE SENIOR LEVEL, UM, THAT WE TOOK THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESTRUCTURE TO ACCOUNT OR PROPOSE A RESTRUCTURING, UH, BASED ON SOME COMMENTS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM, UH, CITY COUNCIL OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

UM, AND EVEN PRIOR TO THE DEPARTURE OF, UH, OF THESE KEY STAFF PEOPLE EFFECTIVELY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO AT THIS POINT IN TIME IS WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO SIT DOWN THE POSITION OF ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER OF PUBLIC SERVICE AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR AND STAND UP IN, UH, IN THEIR PLACE, THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND THESE TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION, UM, MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

AND THERE ARE SOME ASSIGNMENTS, UH, IN ORDER TO MAKE THE TABLE OF ORGANIZATION FUNCTION APPROPRIATELY.

THERE ARE SOME ASSIGNMENTS THAT NEED TO BE REDEFINED WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE.

AND SO WE HAVE PUT THAT IN HERE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AS WELL.

UH, THIS WOULD BE A EFFECTIVELY NET NEUTRAL, UH, UH, FINANCIAL MATTER.

SO WE WOULD USE THE SALARIES THAT WERE THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER OF PUBLIC SERVICE AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR, UH, TO FUND THESE TWO POSITIONS.

SO WE WOULD ASK THAT A COUNCIL ENTERTAIN THIS LEGISLATION ON MONDAY.

UH, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION OF SEEING THIS ON MONDAY'S AGENDA? OKAY.

UM, BRIAN THINKS A LOT.

UH, ONCE THIS IS APPROVED ON MONDAY, YOU'LL GO OUT AND DO YOUR WORK AT TRYING TO FIND TWO FOLKS TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS.

SO IT WOULD GO THROUGH TWO READINGS, IT WOULD JUST WAIVE THE REFERENDUM PERIOD THAT 30 DAY REFERENDUM PERIOD, THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL, BUT IT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT AN OBLIGATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND THE SECOND ITEM WITH THE, UH, CHANGES TO THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES, UH, IT IS AN ORDINANCE, SO A COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER WHETHER YOU WANT TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING ON THAT ITEM AND ADOPTED ON MONDAY IN ORDER TO MOVE THESE BOTH FORWARD TOGETHER.

CORRECT.

WE DON'T NECESSARILY, UM, UH, THAT'S A COUNSELOR'S DISCRETION ON THE ORDINANCE ITSELF.

UM, IF IT WERE TWO READINGS, UM, THAT WOULD BE FINE WITH US.

THERE WAS THE 30 DAY REFERENDUM.

UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO HIRE, BUT, UM, UH, IF COUNCIL WERE WILLING TO ADOPT IT AT THE SECOND READING AS AN EMERGENCY,

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SO THE EMERGENCY EMERGENCY CLAUSE WOULD BE IN IT IF WE WAIVE IT OR NOT.

WELL, THAT WOULD BE THE EMERGENCY CLAUSE TO BE ADDED IF YOU WANT TO ELIMINATE THE 30 DAY EFFECTIVE, UH, WAITING PERIOD AFTER ADOPTION.

CORRECT.

AND IS THERE ANY OBJECTION WAVING THIS MONDAY AND HAVING THE EMERGENCY CLAUSE? THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION TOO.

YOU COULD WAIVE THE SECOND READING ADOPTERS AS EMERGENCY.

IT'D BE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY ALONG WITH THE RESOLUTION THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE CHANGES TO THE TABLE OF ORGANIZATION AND THE ARGUMENT AGAINST DOING THAT IS IF WE DON'T NEED THE PEOPLE, BUT IF WE DO NEED THE PEOPLE, MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T MOVE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

NANCY.

I GET, I THINK WE'VE HEARD MANY TIMES THAT THINGS COULDN'T BE ACCOMPLISHED IN A TIMELY FASHION DUE TO A SHORTAGE OF RESOURCES.

SO YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO GET THIS PASSED AS AN EFFECTIVE, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN HELP RYAN MOVE THINGS FORWARD AND HELP THE CITY MOVE THINGS FORWARD.

WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF ITEMS THAT HAVE KIND OF INPUT ON THE BACK BURNER.

ANY OBJECTIONS? NO GLENN, NO OBJECTIONS WHATSOEVER.

I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POSITION FOR AWHILE.

UM, AND THIS IS NOW I JUST, I GOT KIND OF CONFUSED WHEN I FIRST SAW IT BECAUSE IT ALMOST LOOKED LIKE ONE POSITION ENCOMPASSING A LOT OF THINGS, BUT THIS IS IN ACTUALITY, TWO SEPARATE POSITIONS, ONE MORE COMMUNITY DRIVEN.

AND THE OTHER ONE MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DRIVEN.

SO THE ONE POSITION PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE THE, THE PLANNER'S ROLE, BUT WITH SOME ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES.

SO THINGS LIKE, UM, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, BLOCK GRANTS, KIND OF WORKING THROUGH, UM, OTHER PROGRAMS, WHICH WE MIGHT PARTICIPATE IN, UH, LIKE FOR MAYBE THE LAND BANK.

UH, RIGHT.

SO THOSE ELEMENTS THAT THOSE WOULD BE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LOOK FOR THE PLANNER, UH, THE DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO HANDLE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WOULD STRICTLY BE THAT, UH, BUSINESS GROWTH, BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, REAL ESTATE INTEREST COMPONENT IS WHAT THEY WOULD WORK ON EXCLUSIVELY.

EXCELLENT.

APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD SEE ON FOR MONDAY, TONY.

THERE'D BE TWO ITEMS. YUP.

UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS L CITY SALARY RANGES WAGE LEVELS.

[ City Salary Ranges/Wage Levels]

UH, THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT LEGISLATION, THESE FOLKS WHO NEED TO GET PAID, UH, AND THIS LEGISLATION WILL, UH, WILL MAKE US A WELL WE'LL MAKE US, UH, GIVE US THE AUTHORITY TO PAY THOSE FOLKS WHEN WE, UH, WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO TRACK THEM DOWN AND, UH, AND RECRUIT HIM HERE.

AND AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE ON MONDAY'S AGENDA.

[ Public Works Facility]

PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY.

UM, YES, SIR.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK, UM, UM, IN A VERY GENERAL SENSE FROM STAFF THAT WE WERE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THIS.

I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN A REQUEST FOR COUNSEL.

UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO FIND AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR ACTUALLY ABOUT ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW.

UH, FINALLY WITH, WITH PUSH COMING TO SHOVE, WE'VE IDENTIFIED A LOCATION THAT WE THINK WILL BEST MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CITY.

UH, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO LOCATE OUR PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, UM, OVER IN, UH, CENTER POINT 70, UH, RIGHT OFF OF CENTER POINT 70 BOULEVARD RIGHT HERE ON THIS PARCEL.

UH, THIS IS PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED BY THE CITY, UM, AND, UH, IT WILL ACCOMMODATE WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE OUR NEEDS AFTER LOOKING AT ALL OF THE PROPERTIES, UM, THAT WE THINK WERE GOOD OPTIONS.

UH, THIS PARCEL TO THE RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS THE ABF FREIGHT TERMINAL.

I JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT, UH, THIS PARTICULAR SITE, UH, IF YOU RECALL, WE HAD A STUDY THAT WAS CONDUCTED BY, UH, GOSH, DARN IT.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE FIRM, UH, BUT WHEN SCOTT WAS HERE, HE HAD ENGAGED THEM AT A NO COST, UH, FOR NO COST, UH, ASSESSMENT OF OUR PUBLIC SERVICE NEEDS.

AND THEY IDENTIFIED APPROXIMATELY 13 ACRE SITE AT THIS PARTICULAR SITE.

THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY IS LARGER THAN THAT.

ABOUT WHAT WE DO HAVE IS A SMALL STREAM THAT BISECTS THIS PROPERTY.

UM, IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT THIS IN TWO HALVES, UH, THE TOTAL SITE, UH, WILL ACCOMMODATE ALL OF OUR NEEDS.

UH, IT ISN'T IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.

WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO DEVELOP THIS PARCEL NUMEROUS TIMES IN MY TENURE.

UH, BUT BECAUSE OF THIS STREAM, IT DOES CREATE, UM, SOME CONCERNS.

SO RATHER THAN CONTINUE TO TRY AND DEVELOP THIS PARCEL, WHICH HAS BEEN AN ART INVENTORY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, UH, WE THOUGHT THIS WAS THE BEST OPTION WE ALREADY OWN IT.

INITIAL ENGINEERING INDICATES THAT THE COST TO PUT IN A SERVICEABLE BRIDGE AT THIS LOCATION IS ABOUT APPROXIMATELY $150,000.

WHEREAS ALL OTHER PARCELS, WE LOOKED AT A MINIMUM ACQUISITION COSTS WERE 400,000 OR MORE.

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SO THIS SEEMED LIKE THE BEST TRADE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP, UH, ALL OF OUR DOLLARS IN DEVELOPMENT.

AND MR. GREY'S PUT TOGETHER A RFP THAT IS ASSUMING A RFQ REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS TO FIND, UH, A ARCHITECTURAL FIRM.

UH, WE'RE READY TO PUT THAT OUT HERE SHORTLY, UH, PROVIDED THERE ARE NO CONCERNS OR OBJECTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE SITE, AND THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO REVIEW WITH YOU TONIGHT, WHAT WE HAVE, UH, SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR COUNSEL, SIR, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FOR ME, QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

UH, BRIAN, UH, IN THE, UM, CIP, THIS IS SHOWING A $10 MILLION, UH, FACILITY, UH, IS THAT PROJECTED OR THEIR COST ESTIMATES? HOW, HOW DID THE STAFF COME UP WITH THAT NUMBER? THE, THE ESTIMATE IS BASED ON THE, UH, THE ENGINEERING STUDY THAT WE HAD PREPARED, UH, THAT I REFERENCED EARLIER, I BELIEVE THAT THE TOTAL BUDGET, UM, INCLUDED IN THAT STUDY WAS AROUND $13 MILLION, UH, THAT STUDY INCLUDED SOME THINGS, UM, WITH RESPECT TO, FOR INSTANCE, A NEW SALT STORAGE BARN.

UH, THE SALT STORAGE BARN WE HAVE IS OPERATIONAL, UH, IN, IN, IN GOOD CONDITION, GOOD CONDITION.

UH, IT IS ADJACENT TO A POLE BARN, UH, THAT IS OPERATED AND UTILIZED BY PUBLIC WORKS.

THAT IS ALSO IN A GOOD CONDITION.

SO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LOOK TO DO WOULD BE TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING, UH, BLOCK STRUCTURE THAT IS THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING, BUT WE WOULD LEAVE THE SALT BARN AND THAT GARAGE THERE FOR OFF-SEASON STORAGE.

UH, AND THEN WE WOULD JUST HAVE A FRONT LOADER THERE TO DO SALT STORY OR SALT STORAGE AND SALT LOADING.

SO THAT'S A WAY THAT WE WOULD REDUCE COSTS HERE.

UH, THE, UH, UM, SO THAT'S WHERE THAT NUMBER COMES FROM.

UM, BUT WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY GO THROUGH ENGINEERING, UH, ONCE WE WERE ABLE TO HIRE AN ARCHITECT OR AN ENGINEERING FIRM TO DESIGN THE SITE AND THAT NUMBER MIGHT FLUCTUATE, BUT THAT WE THOUGHT WAS INAPPROPRIATE PLACEHOLDER.

I MEAN, WHEN WE CAME TO THAT NUMBER THAT WAS PRE INFLATIONARY, UH, YOU KNOW, PRE INFLATIONARY TIME.

SO, UH, WHO KNOWS WHAT THAT NUMBER LOOK LIKE NOW, BUT WHEN WE PROGRAMMED IT, THAT'S WHERE OUR NUMBER CAME FROM.

GREAT.

DISCUSSION VIA EMAIL, UH, WITH RESPECT TO IMPROVEMENTS TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

AND, UM, IS THAT ENGINEERING STUDY AVAILABLE SO THAT WE CAN LOOK THROUGH IT? AH, YES.

YEAH, WE HAVE A COPY.

I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT.

I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THAT HAD BEEN GIVEN TO CANADA PREVIOUSLY.

UH, BUT, UH, IF IT HAS NOT YET, MAYBE IT HAS, I, I DON'T RECALL THAT, BUT IT WAS A PART OF THIS PACKET TONIGHT.

NOT THAT IT'S REQUIRED TO, BUT TONY IT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, THEN, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS JIM BELL, BUT I DON'T WANT TO THROW HIM UNDER THE BUS.

UH, WHEN THAT ITEM WAS IN THE CIP, UM, SOMEONE SAID THAT THEY HAD NO IDEA HOW THEY WERE GOING TO PAY FOR IT.

AND THAT'S A TONGUE IN CHEEK OFF THING, YOU KNOW, A OFF THE CUFF COMMENT, BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT FINANCING YET.

DOES STAFF HAVE, UH, AN IDEA OF HOW THEY'RE PLANNING ON FINANCING THIS? YEAH, THE GENERAL CONCEPT WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD PUT TOGETHER A FUNDING PACKAGE, UH, THROUGH THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS.

UH, AND THEN WE WOULD LOOK TO APPROPRIATE THE NECESSARY FUNDS FROM A VARIETY OF SOURCES, UH, TO PAY FOR THAT, UH, TO PAY FOR THAT, UH, THAT BOND ISSUANCE.

UM, WE HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY YET TO BEGIN A DETAILED REVIEW OF WHAT THAT BREAKDOWN MIGHT LOOK LIKE, BUT, UH, CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN HAD, UH, AT LEAST CONCEPTUALLY ABOUT BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE PORTIONS OF A WATER SEWER, UH, PERMISSIVE TAX AND GAS TAX, AS WELL AS THE DEDICATED MILLAGE THAT, UH, THAT THE CITY COLLECTS.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE IDEA THAT WHILE WE WOULD HAVE ONE LARGE PAYMENT, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO SMALLER BITES THAT COULD BE ABSORBED INTO OUR, UM, ANNUAL REVENUE GROWTH TO, TO PAY FOR THAT THAT'S THE CONCEPT, BUT WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEMPT TO PUT THAT CONCEPT INTO APPLICATION, BUT THAT'S.

AND WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE, UH, STAFF BEING ABLE TO PUT THAT CONCEPT TOGETHER FOR THE FINANCING? UH, ONCE WE GET THROUGH, UH, THE ENGINEERING PHASE AND ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE DESIGN PHASE AND WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE, UH, THAT WOULD GIVE US A NUMBER THAT WE COULD, UH, WE COULD WORK WITH A LOT OF THE COMPONENT.

A LOT OF THE, THE, UH, A LOT OF THE FUNDING MODEL WILL ALSO BE BASED ON WHAT ALL IS INCLUDED WITH THAT BOND ISSUANCE AND WHEN WE PLAN TO SEND THAT TO MARKET.

SO, UM, THE MORE MONEY WE SELL, THE CHEAPER WE CAN SELL IT, BUT THE QUESTION BECOMES HOW MUCH MONEY DOES THE CITY WANTS TO SELL WITH RESPECT TO CAPITAL PROJECTS? SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, THIS BUILDING, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, CITY HALL, NOT CITY HALL, WE'RE LOOKING AT A SENIOR CENTER, WE'RE LOOKING AT A NEW COUNCIL CONFERENCE SPACE, NEW COUNCIL MEETING SPACE.

AND THEN THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL

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SO WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OF THAT.

SO RIGHT NOW OUR PRINCIPLE FOCUS WOULD BE ON TRYING TO DESIGN A FACILITY BECAUSE THE DESIGN WORK WILL NEVER BE OUTDATED.

RIGHT? SO ONCE, ONCE WE IDENTIFY THE SITE, ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER AN ENGINEERING PACKAGE OR A DESIGN PACKAGE FOR THIS FACILITY, WHETHER OR NOT WE BUILD IT TODAY, OR WHETHER OR NOT WE BUILD IT FOUR YEARS FROM NOW, THAT ENGINEERED WORK IS STILL BE VALID.

THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A WORKABLE PRODUCT WE HAVE.

UH, SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR FOCUS AT THIS POINT AND UP, DEPENDING UPON, DEPENDING UPON HOW IT ALL FALLS TOGETHER WITH THE BUDGET CYCLE, UH, WOULD BE THEN HOW WE WOULD TACKLE THE, THE ED FINANCING.

AND IT CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE STAFF'S IDENTIFIED A GOOD PARCEL.

THAT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S IN WHAT THE NORTH NORTHEASTERN PART OF OUR CITY BY, UH, IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREAS POST TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA WOULD CERTAINLY BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT FACILITY.

UH, WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THAT FACILITY.

I'D HAVE TO PULL THE STUDY UP TO TELL YOU THAT SPECIFICALLY IN THE ENGINEERING STUDY.

AND, UM, ALL RIGHT.

SO LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THAT STUDY AND, UH, UH, SEEING WE CAN GET THE FINANCING IRONED OUT.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH VICE MAYOR.

I MAY HAVE MISSED IT COMPLETELY.

AND I APOLOGIZE IF I DID BRIAN.

UM, WHEN COULD WE LOOK TO SEE UPDATED NUMBERS? YOU MENTIONED THAT BAD I WORD, AND IT'S BEEN HITTING US HARDER THAN IT HAS IN A LONG, LONG TIME.

AND CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO COME BACK AT.

SO WHEN CAN WE EXPECT TO SEE SOMETHING BALLPARKED, UM, I WOULD TELL YOU ENGINEERING POST ENGINEERING, WHEN WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO BUILD.

SO FOR INSTANCE, THE, UH, THE PROPOSAL THAT WE RECEIVED, UM, WHEN WE DID OUR INITIAL ASSESSMENT, THAT SOME OF THESE BASIC NUMBERS ARE, ARE, UM, ARE BASED UPON IS A COMPLETELY ENCLOSED CLIMATE CONTROL SPACE TO MAINTAIN ALL OF OUR VEHICLES WHILE THAT MIGHT NOT BE NECESSARY.

ONCE WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE BUDGET, UH, THERE ARE CERTAIN SPACES THAT ARE GOING TO BE NECESSARY, BUT THEN THERE ARE CERTAIN SPACES THAT ARE NOT.

SO FOR INSTANCE, UH, COULD AN OPEN-ENDED STRUCTURE WITH ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONS FOR HEATERS ON OUR TRUCKS AND WHATNOT.

COULD WE BRING THAT INTO PLAY TO KEEP THAT WITHIN BUDGET? SO THE IDEA IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE IS TO WORK AGAINST A TARGET BUDGET, UH, AND BUILD INTO THAT, TO MEET OUR NEEDS, AS OPPOSED TO TRY AND BUILD INTO A, I WON'T CALL IT A TAJ MAHAL, BUT A, UM, A HIGH FUNCTIONING FACILITY, WHICH MAY HAVE AMENITIES WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF OUR APPROACH AT THIS POINT, BUT WE'LL KNOW MORE KNOW MORE ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO IDENTIFY A FIRM AND THEN KIND OF WORK THROUGH THAT RFQ PROCESS TO DETERMINE WHAT MAKES THEM THE BEST QUALIFIED FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY DO THIS WORK.

WELL, CERTAINLY EXCITED ABOUT IT, EXTREMELY SUPPORTIVE AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, AND, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.