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[ AGENDA BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road April 6, 2022 6:30 P.M.]
MEETING OF THE CITY OF HUBER HIGH EXPORTERS ONLY APPEALS TO ORDER.MADAM SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROAD? UM, MR. DAVIDSON, MR. DEAN, HE CALLED AND CANNOT MAKE IT.
MR. MOCK, DEAR MS. NEWBIE AND MR. STEWART.
SO WE DO HAVE THREE THAT'S ENOUGH FOR A QUORUM.
MADAM SECRETARY, WE HAVE ONE SET OF MINUTES FROM MARCH 2ND, 2020 TO MEET.
AND IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS OR CORRECTIONS TO BE MADE TO HIS MANAGER, PLEASE SPEAK NOW SEEING NO COMMENTS OR CORRECTIONS THOSE MINUTES, JUST STARE AT APPROVE.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT? IT'S MEETING OF APRIL 6TH, 2022 AT 6:30 PM.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECOND THAT THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT, APRIL 6TH, 2020, TO BE APPROVED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RULES OF THE BOARD OF THE ZONING APPEALS.
ANYONE WHO MAY WISH TO SPEAK OR GIVE EVENING GIVE TESTIMONY REGARDING THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN.
SO IF YOU COULD STAND UP BY THE PODIUM, I WILL ASK EVERYONE TO STAND UP, RAISE THEIR RIGHT HAND AND RESPOND.
DO YOU HEAR BY SQUARE ON FROM THE THREAT OF PERJURY TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH SO HELP YOU GOD.
ANYONE THAT MAY WISH TO SPEAK TO NOW AFTER THE CASE WOULD VIEW AND THE STAFF REPORT, PLEASE STEP UP TO THE PODIUM, SPELL YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND PLACE YOUR NAME AND SIGN YOUR NAME ON THE SHEET.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT NOW.
WE WILL GO WITH THE STAFF FIRST.
SO THE FIRST WE DON'T HAVE ANY ALL BUSINESS.
UH, WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO THE NEW BUSINESS, THE NEW BUSINESS ZB BZA CASE 2204, THE APPLICANT ROBERT SWEET IS REQUESTING A VARIOUS FROM SECTION 11 89 0 7 AND 11 82 0 3 AND OH FOUR, LAID TO THE BACK, THE SETBACK SIZE AND TYPE OF SITE SIGNAGE AND TO THE NUMBER OF TREE INSTALLATIONS AND PARKING LOT INTERIOR LANDSCAPING PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 8,000, UH, PIPE, BRENT PIKE, CITY.
YOU UM, THE STAFF AND THE CITY WAS SPEAK NOW.
THANK YOU, MS. CHAIRMAN, UH, MR. SWEET IS HERE ON BEHALF OF CASES, GENERAL STORE, UH, THE ADDRESS AGAIN, 8,000 TO BRANDT PIKE.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED TO B3 COMMERCIAL.
UH, CURRENT LAND USES A BARNEY'S RENTAL AT THAT SITE.
UH, ADJACENT LAND IS ZONED EITHER AGRICULTURAL, UH, OR ONE B3.
AND OF COURSE THE ODAT RIGHT AWAY OR DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, THE APPLICANT ROBERT SUITE OF MCBRIDE, DALE CLARION ON BEHALF OF THE CASES, GENERAL STORE IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE FROM THE CITY SIGNED CODE, AS WELL AS THE VARIANCE FROM THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.
I'VE A NEW CONVENIENCE STORE AND FEELING STATION ON THE CURRENT SITE OF MARNIE'S RENTAL 8,000 BRAND PIKE LOCATED AT THE WESTBOUND OFF RAMP OF INTERSTATE 70 DUE TO THE LOCATION ALONG I, 70 AS WELL AS PROLIFIC UTILITIES MONTHS, THE APPLICANT SEEKS VARIANCE RELIEF.
MR. SUEZ FURNISHED AN APPLICATION PACKET, WHICH EXPLAINS IN GREAT DETAIL.
THE VARIOUS REQUESTS, THIS NEW STORE WILL BE A GATEWAY BUSINESS TO THE ROSE MUSIC CENTER, COMMUNITY ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT CITY STAFF FEELS THIS WILL BE AN EXCITING ADDITION TO THE CITY IN GENERAL CASEY'S IS, AND HAS BEEN A GREAT MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY AT THEIR INITIAL LOCATION AT OLD TROY PIKE IN FITCHBURG ROAD.
AFTER REVIEWING THE SITE PLAN WITH THE CITY ENGINEER, THE FIRE ENGINEER AND THE MANAGER OF CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE GRANTING OF THIS VARIANCE STAFF ANALYSIS AS FOLLOWS.
THE LOT IS 1.17 ACRES EASEMENT CONSIDERATION IS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR IN THE VARIANCE REQUEST.
THE STRUCTURE IS, ARE PROPOSED CONVENIENCE STORE AND FUELING STATION.
THE PLACEMENT IS DESCRIBED IN THE APPLICANT'S REPORT.
THE CITY ENGINEER, FIRE ENGINEER AND CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER MAY HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THIS VARIANCE.
IF I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO OTHERWISE I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. SWEET.
THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTION FOR THE CITY STAFF PERSON.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF, UH, MR. MALARKEY, YOU KNOW WHAT THE REST OF THE, THE SIGNS ON
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UM, BECAUSE THOSE WERE APPROVED THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS, WHICH THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BECAUSE IT'S JUST A STRAIGHT WHAT WE CALL STRAIGHT ZONE.BUT I WOULD SAY THAT WE LOOK AT, FOR INSTANCE, THE MCDONALD'S SIGN WHERE THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY FRONTAGE ON
MAYBE THE TALLEST AMONG ALL THOSE SIGNS.
UM, AND WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE ELEVATION HERE, SIGN ELEVATION ALONG
UH, WHEN YOU HAVE AN OFF RAMP SUCH AS THIS, WHERE THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL DROP IN THE ELEVATION, THEN THAT IS ONE REASON FOR THE VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE ALLOWED HEIGHT ABOVE.
I SAID, PLUS A LITTLE BIT EXTRA SPOTS, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THIS SIGN AND THIS PROPOSED SIZE IS IN KEEPING WITH SIZE OF THAT GENERAL NATURE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
IF YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL IT FOR US, PLEASE, SIR.
WELL, I MEAN, IT'S THE OLD FASHIONED WAY, RIGHT? OKAY.
I BROUGHT A WHOLE BUNCH OF EQUIPMENT AND I FIGURED WHAT THE HECK I DON'T NEED TO BREAK ALL THAT UP.
MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
AND WITH MCBRIDE DALE CLARION THAT'S SW EET ADDRESS IS 57 21 DRAGON WAY, SUITE 300 CINCINNATI OHIO 45, 2 2 7 HERE AT NIGHT AS MR. BERNARD SAID ON BEHALF OF CASEY'S, IT'S KIND OF A WEIRD RELATIONSHIP.
OUR COMPANY HAS, I'M ACTUALLY A SITE DEVELOPMENT MANAGER, WHICH IS KIND OF STRANGE TO ME.
IT'S BEEN A GAS STATION DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANT FOR MAJORITY OF MY CAREER.
SO TO BE CALLED, TO HAVE AN ACTUAL TITLE, IT MAKES ME FEEL MUCH BETTER.
I NORMALLY JUST GET YELLED AT.
UM, SO AS, AS MR MAILLARD SAID, CASEY'S HAS A CONTRACT TO LEASE ABOUT THE OLD BARNEY'S RENTAL FACILITY.
UH, THERE ARE 8,000 BRAND PIKE.
UH, THEY PROPOSE TO RAISE THE STRUCTURES AND REDEVELOP THE SITE WITH NEW CONVENIENCE STORE AND FUEL CELLS FACILITY.
KINDA JUST WALK YOU THROUGH OUR SITE PLAN HERE.
AND IT'S UP ON YOUR SCREEN AS WELL.
UM, THE PROPOSED, THE BUILDING ITSELF IS ABOUT 4,300 SQUARE FEET AREA FEELING CAN'T ABOUT 4,200 SQUARE FEET AREA, SIX DOUBLE-SIDED DISPENSERS.
AND WHAT WE CALL A STACKED FORMATION, WHERE WE GO THREE AND THREE, RATHER THAN THE SIX THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY SEE AT A MUCH LARGER FACILITY, A PROPOSING ABOUT 35 PARKING SPACES, 23 OF THESE ARE STRIPED.
AND THEN WE HAVE ONE SPACE AT EACH DISPENSER OR EACH FEELING POSITION, UH, PROPOSED.
WE'RE USED TO DRIVEWAYS WITH MINOR MODIFICATIONS, AND WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THOSE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND THOSE ARE ON OUR UPDATED PLANS AS WELL.
THEY'VE ASKED FOR SOME RUNOFF PAST, AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS LITTLE ISLAND STRIPED ISLAND THERE THAT IS JUST STRICTLY STRIPING.
THAT'S NOT A RAISED MEDIAN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UH, IT'S JUST A STRIPED AREA TO KIND OF REINFORCE THE FACT THAT THERE IS A MEDIAN IN THE MIDDLE OF A BRAND PIKE.
UM, WE ARE PROPOSING LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING SIGNAGE WITH THE NEW FACILITY AS WELL.
SO AS WE SAID, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT REQUESTING A COUPLE OF VARIANCES ASSOCIATED WITH SIGN PACKAGE AND SOME VARIANCES ASSOCIATE WITH THE LANDSCAPING PACKAGE FOR THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE SIGNAGE IF THAT'S OKAY WITH Y'ALL.
AND, UH, WE CAN KIND OF WORK THROUGH OUR WAY THROUGH THAT ONE.
SO WE ARE OUT OF 1189 WERE REQUESTING FOR VARIANCES.
TWO OF THESE PROBABLY ARE COMBINED.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S, WE ORIGINALLY REQUESTED THAT.
SO WE'RE ASKING FOR A GROUND SIGNED TO ENCROACH ON THE 15 FOOT SETBACK.
THAT'S LOCATED RIGHT DOWN HERE IN THIS CORNER.
UH, WE'RE REQUESTING A WALL SIGN, WHICH IS LOCATED, WHICH IS THIS WALL SIGN HERE.
IT'S ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE PROPOSING THESE TWO VARIANCES.
ARE WE FEEL THEY'RE PROBABLY COMBINED A THIRD STYLE OF SIGNAGE, WHICH IS THE INTERSTATE, WHICH IS THE INTERSTATE HIGH RISE SIDE.
UM, SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST REQUEST, THE 15TH, THE 15 FOOT SETBACK, THIS IS ALL RELATED TO YOU TWO.
AND IF Y'ALL CAN SEE THIS, DO YOU HAVE ANY PACKET, BUT THERE ARE TWO, 10 FOOT WIDE UTILITY AT AND T UTILITY EASEMENTS THAT RUN ALONG THERE.
I SAID, AND OUR SIGN IS BASICALLY RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THOSE.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, THERE'S AN OVERHEAD UTILITY LINE OF ROADS ACROSS THE PROPERTY THAT DOESN'T HAVE AN EASEMENT.
NOW, WHENEVER WE GO TO REDEVELOP THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WRITE MOST OF THESE FOLKS.
DON'T LIKE TO HAVE STRUCTURES IN THOSE EASEMENTS.
UH, THEY WANT THEM OUT OF THEIR, THEY WANT THE MOOD.
AND AGAIN, WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO PUT A SIGN, AN EASEMENT KNOWING THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, 18 T AES, WHOEVER THE CASE MAY BE CAN COME IN AND TAKE IT DOWN.
AND THEN WE'RE REQUIRED TO PUT IT BACK UP.
UM, THE PROPOSED SIGN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE FOR THE GROUND IS ABOUT SIX FEET TALL AND 48 WE'RE FEEDING AREA, UH, IS
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THE SIGN RIGHT HERE.IT'S GOT THREE PRICE PANELS ON THERE AT PRODUCT LAG.
AND IT ADVERTISES WHAT WE'RE SELLING, WHICH IS FIELD.
UM, THE SIGN ITSELF IS ABOUT 90 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF PAVEMENT ON BRAND PIKE AND SIGN IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE, IT'S ABOUT 60 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF PAYMENT FOR MY 70.
UH, AGAIN, WE'RE PUT IT IN THE BEST SPOT TO MINIMIZE OUR CONFLICTS WITH UTILITIES AND IT'S, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, KIND OF THE LOW HANGING FRUIT QUESTION IS, WELL, WHY CAN'T YOU PUT IT UP HERE AND PUT UP THERE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT WATERLINES AND WE'VE GOT DRAINAGE LINES AND WE'VE GOT OTHER ONSITE UTILITY STRUCTURES THAT NEED TO BE, WE ALSO HAVE A VERY COMPLICATED, I SAY VERY COMPLICATED.
IF I WAS AN ENGINEER, I'D PROBABLY SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT WE DO HAVE A COMPLICATED SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM THAT'S ATTACHED TO THIS.
UM, SO GETTING IT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE REALLY DOESN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE ON TOP OF THAT.
WE'RE ALSO BLOCKING VISIBILITY FROM OUR SOUTHBOUND DRIVERS.
SO HAVING IT HERE ON THE CORNER SITS UP A LITTLE BIT IT'S PLACED IN BETWEEN THOSE UTILITIES, BUT IF FOR JUST THE BEST VISIBILITY, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE.
SO THE NET DIFFERENCE HERE IS INSTEAD OF 15 FEET FROM THE END, YOU WANT TO BRING IT CLOSER BY FOUR FEET.
SO 11 FEET ON THE ONE SIDE AND 10 FEET ON THE OTHER.
SO WE'RE TALKING A NET OF, YOU KNOW, THREE OR FOUR FEET, FOUR OR FIVE FEET OF DIFFERENCE, BUT WE STILL HAVE SIX 90 FEET FROM HERE TO THE EDGE OF PAVEMENT AND THEY'RE 60 FEET FROM HERE.
SO YEAH, THAT'S THE EDGE OF BAY, BUT RIGHT AWAY, NORMALLY ABOUT 10, BUT YOU KNOW, WIDENING PROJECT OR ANYTHING OUT THERE AT THIS TIME WILL NOT BE IMPACTED BY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF RIGHT AWAY IN FRONT OF THE STORE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I'M FINE.
LET'S MOVE ON TO THE LOGO SONG.
SO THIS IS A KIND OF A, A STRANGE REQUEST.
THIS LOGO SIGN IS SIGN ON THE PRICE ON THE RUNNING ELEVATION.
HERE IS A FEW BOXES PUPPY, AND I'D SAY LIKE THAT, BUT A FEW BOXES.
IF YOU GO DOWN AND REALLY JUST KIND OF SCRIPT AREA, IT'S ONLY ABOUT 38 SQUARE FEET, THIS IS A TRADEMARK SIGN FOR CASEY'S.
THEY HAVE THIS AT ALL THEIR STORES THROUGHOUT THEIR 3030 200 SQUARE FOOT OR 3,200 STORE FOOTPRINT.
IN FACT, IT'S A VERY SIMILAR SIGN TO WHAT'S OUT AT KIRA FISHBURN AND OLD TROY PIKE.
I BELIEVE THE DIFFERENCE THERE IS, IS THAT THERE'S BLOCK LETTERS AND A HOUSE LOGO.
AND THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS WE'RE DON'T HAVE THE HOUSE LOGO.
WE REALLY JUST HAVE THAT FREE-STANDING CASEY'S SCRIPT SIDE, UM, AGAIN, THAT, AND THAT'S TO LOOK AT THEIR NEW FACILITIES.
SO THIS IS A NEW, A NEW DESIGN FOR THEM, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO GET THEIR NEW LOGO OUT THERE.
UM, THE SIGN WILL LIKELY BE BLOCKED BY THE CANOPY LANDSCAPING AND SOME OTHER, UM, ITEMS. SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, KIND OF LOOKING AT WHERE THE SIGN IS LOCATED ON THE SITE PLAN.
IT'S RIGHT UP HERE ON THE FRONT, YOU HAVE THE CANOPY IN FRONT AND YOU HAD THE TREES.
I FOUGHT WITH HER SIDE PEOPLE AND SAID, THERE'S REALLY NO NEED FOR IT.
AND THEY SAID, THIS IS OUR TRADEMARK.
SO I GOT TO GO AND I GOT TO ASK FOR WHAT THEY WANT.
UM, THERE'S ALSO SOME MINOR GRADING OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, BRENT PIKE IS KIND OF IN THE LOW POINT, THEN IT KIND OF, AND THEN KIND OF COMES UP AGAIN.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE SIGN IS LOCATED ABOUT 165 FEET FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY.
IT'S ALSO ABOUT 225 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF SO 165 TO HERE AT THIS POINT WHERE THIS STARTS TO COME UP WITH 165 OR ABOUT 225 FEET.
SO IT'S LOCATED FAIRLY FAR AWAY FROM THE INTERSECTION.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT LIKELY IT'S GOING TO BE SEEN, BUT THAT IS THEIR TRADEMARK.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE.
UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ONE, YOUR QUESTION QUESTIONS, RIGHT.
SO MOVING ON, WE GO TO THE, THE HIGH RISE SIGN AND THAT WILL BE THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.
I'M GOING TO PUT THIS UP AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS HERE IN A MINUTE.
AND YOU'RE PROBABLY LIKE, WHY ARE YOU SHOWING ME FOUR PICTURES OF THE EXACT SAME ITEM, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
SOME CASES THEY ARE PROPOSING A INTERSTATE SIGN AT ABOUT 85 FEET TALL AND ABOUT 236 SQUARE FEET IN AREA.
IT'S PROBABLY LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS THAT I HAD AND FIGURING OUT IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I THINK IS WHAT THEY HAVE THERE.
UM, IT IS CONSISTENT OF A HOUSE LOGO
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IN AN LED PRICE PANEL.AND IT'S DESIGNED TO BE VISIBLE TO CUSTOMERS ALONG I, 70, UM, KIND OF A COUPLE OF THINGS TO THINK ABOUT AS YOU'RE, AS YOU'RE DOING THIS.
AND YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT AS FAMILIAR.
AND I WOULDN'T EXPECT YOU ALL TO BE FAMILIAR WITH HOW THEY DO A HIGH RISE, LOCATE AND VISIBILITY STUDY, BUT THE OLD WAY OF DOING IT WAS YOU'D GO OUT ON SITE, YOU'D SET UP A BLIMP OF WORK, GOES, YOU SHOOT IT UP IN THE AIR AND YOU HAVE TWO OR THREE PEOPLE THAT WOULD GO OUT AND DRIVE THE INTERSTATE, RIGHT? SO YOU GO FIVE MILES OUT, CLICK PICTURES AS YOU COME IN, YOU PROBABLY SEE THESE FOLKS AND ARE GOING, WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE JUST TAKING PICTURES OF NOTHING? UM, AND THAT'S THE OLD WAY OF DOING IT.
AND THEN YOU EVALUATE WHERE THE BEST PLACE TO GO IS ON SITE.
CASEY'S DOES THIS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY PLUNK DOWN A DRUM AND WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO AND THEY SHOW STRAIGHT UP IN THE AIR AND IT TAKES PICTURES EVERY 10 FEET OR SO.
SO I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE AS A CODE STATES, WE'RE ALLOWED, WE GET ABOUT 40 FEET OF SIGN OF, OF HEIGHT ON OUR INTERSTATE SIGN, BUT THAT'S MEASURED OFF OF THE TRAVEL LANES OF BY 70.
WE'LL GIVE YOU THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.
SO THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE A 50 FOOT TALL.
SAW THAT BEING SAID UP HERE IN THE CORNER, WESTBOUND OR EASTBOUND TRAFFIC IS FANTASTIC.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT SHE COME WESTBOUND AND WHERE THAT SIDE WOULD BE LOCATED, RIGHT FOR THAT TREE.
SO, OKAY, WE'LL GO UP 10 FEET.
YOU LOOK AT THE, SORRY, WHAT, BUT WE'RE AT 67 FEET TO THE BOTTOM OR VICE POINT.
SO RIGHT NOW, SO WE'RE BETWEEN THIS SIDE AND THIS SIDE.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE HIGHER UP AND GET THE BETTER VISIBILITY THAT YOU HAVE ALL THE WAY UP TO 80, YOU CAN SEE A FINE, IT GETS ABOVE THE FOLIAGE, GIVES ABOVE THE OLD TREES, HOWEVER, NATURES IN THE WAY.
SO WE'RE AT 67 TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SIGN.
THE OVERALL HEIGHT OF THE SIGN IS 85 FEET.
SO WE'RE STILL KIND OF BLOCKING OURSELVES, BUT WE FIGURED WITH THE ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US ENOUGH VISIBILITY COMING FOR TRAFFIC COMING WESTBOUND.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE REASONING, TRY THAT AGAIN.
IT'S KIND OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT, OKAY, TALK EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE AS WELL AS THAT INTERSTATE.
WE'RE GOING DOWN HERE, THE INTERSTATES HERE, AND WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF OFFSET THERE.
UM, WITH THOSE COUPLE ITEMS AND ONE OTHER ITEM I SHOULD BRING UP WITH THE FIRST REQUEST.
THAT'S OUT THERE, THAT'S COMING DOWN AND THAT'S BEING REPLACED WITH THAT MONUMENT SIGN.
SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO MONUMENT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO BOTH SIGNS OR TO LOCAL SIGNS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE MONUMENT SIGN.
AND THEN THIS HIGH ROAD WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS HIGH-RISE SIGN.
THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, THESE ISSUES ARE RELATED TO THE USE.
WE ARE ADVERTISING OUR PRICE PANELS AND OUR FUEL SALES EASEMENTS COMPLICATE THE MATTER.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME FOLIAGE AND SOME GREAT CHANGES.
WE DON'T BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO HAVE ANY IMPACT TO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.
IN FACT, IT'S RIGHT ALONG THE MAIN CORRIDOR, AND THIS IS AN INTERSTATE STYLE USE AT A INTERCHANGE.
UM, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE GOVERNMENTAL SERVICES.
IN FACT, YOU COULD ARGUE THE OTHER WAY, DEPENDING ON WHERE THOSE SIGNS ARE PLACED, THEY COULD HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON GOVERNMENTAL SERVICES.
SO FOR THOSE REASONS, WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST APPROVAL OF THE SIGNED PACKAGE.
I CAN CONTINUE TO GO FURTHER INTO LANDSCAPING IF YOU WOULD LIKE, OR WE CAN DISCUSS THE SIGNS.
I HAVE NO QUESTIONS, VERY GOOD.
SO WITH THE LANDSCAPING WE ARE REQUESTING, IT'S KIND OF A WEIRD REQUEST, BUT WE'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THIS PLAN.
THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO BUILD HERE.
UM, WHICH BASICALLY IT COMES OUT ABOUT THREE VARIANCES.
SO THE WAY THAT I FIGURED OUT WAS THE REDUCTION, THE OVERALL NUMBER OF TREES FOR THE SITE REDUCTION IN THE OVERALL LANDSCAPING PLANNINGS ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND TO FOREGO THE INTERIOR LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS KIND OF HITTING BACK TO THE SAME OLD STUFF THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THOSE EASEMENTS, THE LAST UTILITY PROVIDER THAT I TALKED TO DOES NOT LIKE TO HAVE TREES AND THEIR EASEMENTS.
UM, AND FOR GOOD REASON, EITHER IF THEY GO UP TOO HIGH, THEY HAVE CONFLICTS WITH THE LINES ROUTES, CAUSE ISSUES WITH STUFF AT THE BOTTOM, LOW, LOW LINE TRUCKS, BUSHES, GRASSES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
IF YOU START PUTTING IN TREES WITH SOME ROOTS, THERE, THERE, THEY DO HAVE SOME ISSUES.
UM, WE ASKED TO TALK TO ABOUT THE CANDIDATE, THE PRACTICALITY OF THE USE, AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MOST RETAIL BUSINESSES DON'T HAVE A FREESTANDING CANOPY OUTSIDE OF THE CELL FIELD.
ON TOP OF THAT, MOST, MOST COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES DON'T HAVE UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS STRAIGHT TO GET A TRUCK IN TO FILL THOSE UP.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS A TIGHT SITE, AS IT IS.
YOU MIXING THE UTILITIES, YOU MIXING THESE THINGS.
IT MAKES IT VERY TIGHT TO GET THAT ABILITY OF THAT TRUCK IN AND
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OUT IN AND OUT OF THE SITE.WE ALSO HAVE A LOADING ZONE RIGHT HERE, WHICH ALLOWS US TO VISUALIZE OUR CUSTOMER GAS STATION FOLKS TO DROP OFF THEIR GOODS AND SERVICES FOR, UM, FOR THE BUILDING.
WE ARE SURROUNDED BY LANDSCAPING OUT HERE, AND I HATE TO USE THAT ARGUMENT.
I'VE BEEN A CONSULTANT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND I HATE TO USE THE ARGUMENT WELL, SO-AND-SO HAS IT ON THEIR PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE ELSE WE WOULD PUT SOME ADDITIONAL TREES ON THE SITE IF WE WERE TO DO THAT.
SO UTILIZING A LITTLE BIT OF THAT, WE DO HAVE SOME TREES OUT THERE RIGHT NOW THAT ARE GOING TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL COVERAGE AND IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE ALL OF IT.
WE'RE STILL TRYING TO PUT AS MANY TREES ON HERE AS WE CAN.
IT'S JUST WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED.
ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER ABOUT THIS LANDSCAPE REQUEST IS THE EXISTING FACILITY.
NOW, UM, IF I WERE RECOLLECTION RECALLS, THERE'S, IT'S A LITTLE OVER AN ACRE, SO THAT'S ABOUT 42, 43, 40 4,000 SQUARE FEET.
THAT SITE IS ALMOST ALL PAVEMENT AND GRAVEL AS IT IS.
AND FOR GOOD REASON, I MEAN, THERE, IT'S A, IT'S A RENTAL BUSINESS, IT'S A, IT'S A CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT RENTAL BUSINESS.
UM, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO REDUCE THAT ABOUT 16,000 SQUARE FEET.
SO OUR PAVEMENT OUT HERE IS GOING TO BE, I WANT TO SAY 26,000 I THINK IS THE NUMBER THAT I PUT IN THERE.
UM, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA BY ALMOST 9,400 SQUARE FEET.
SO WE'RE ADDING WORK TECHNICALLY AND BRINGING SPACE TO THE SITE AND PERVIOUS SURFACE AREA, NOT IMPERVIOUS, BUT WE'RE ADDING, WE'RE ADDING SOME OF THOSE GREEN SPACE AREAS.
AGAIN, WE KIND OF HIT ON A LITTLE BIT.
WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT REPLACING THOSE TREES WITH THE SHRUBS AND DOING THOSE OTHER ITEMS. AND AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO GET TREES AND SHRUBS ON THE SITE WHERE IT IS.
IT'S A TIGHT SITE, IT'S OUR FAULT.
HOWEVER, LOOKING AT THE PRACTICALITY OF THE USE AND THE WAY THIS THING SETS UP, KIND OF MAKE SOME SENSE TO MAYBE THINK ABOUT SOME RELIEF HERE, UM, WITH THE LANDSCAPING STUFF.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF IN THE SAME POSITION THAT WE WERE EARLIER.
IT'S, IT'S TOUGH TO MEET IT WITH THE EASEMENTS AND THE SHAPE, BUT ON TOP OF THAT, WE DON'T FEEL IT'S GOING TO HAVE ANY IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IN FACT, IF ANYTHING, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK A LITTLE BIT NICER.
UH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME TREES.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME NEW BUILDINGS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE JUST A WHOLE NEW SITE, REDEVELOPMENT, NO IMPACT TO THE GOVERNMENTAL SERVICES.
AND YOU KNOW, THIS PROVIDES A USE TO THE TRAVELERS, KIND OF HITTING ON WHAT MR. MAILLARD SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GATEWAY AREA.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME.
THEY INVEST A LOT OF, A LOT OF MONEY IN HERE TO MAKE THIS LOOK GOOD.
WE WANT TO HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT.
WE WANT TO PUT A NICE FOOT FORWARD FOR THE RESIDENTS OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING, BUT DO LOOK, DO LOOK FOR A, UH, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.
I MEAN, I'M IMPRESSED WITH ALL THE KNOWLEDGE AND YOU KNOW, YOUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
MATTER OF FACT, YOU GAVE ME THE WHOLE PRESENTATION WAS ALL MY QUESTIONS HERE.
ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR YOU BECAUSE THE PRESENTATION WAS HERE.
I'VE I'VE BEEN, LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR SOME TIME.
IT'S TAKEN ME A WHILE TO GET HERE.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I USED TO DO IT FOR A GROUP THAT HAS AN S ON THEIR SIDE.
AND UNFORTUNATELY NOW THEY'RE, THEY HAVE A SEVEN AND 11 NEXT TO THEM AND WE DON'T SEE THAT MUCH BUSINESS COMING FROM THEM.
SO, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT TAKES A LOT OF PRACTICE AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO THERE'S NO SISTERS, NOT ANY QUESTIONS I'M GONNA CLOSE CASE.
WE GOING TO GO TO EACH VERSE AND ANSWER EACH QUESTION PART OF THE VARIANCE.
NOW WHETHER THE PROPER QUESTION WILL YIELD A REASONABLE RETURN OR WHETHER THERE CAN BE ANY BENEFICIAL USE OF THE PROPERTY WITHOUT THE VERUS ALL THOSE INGREDIENTS SAY, YAY.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED HAVE THE SAME RIGHT? TO SAY, MADAM PRESIDENT, MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE TAKE THE MR. DAVIDSON.
WHERE THE VERUS A SUBSTANTIAL MR. DAVIDSON.
WELL, THE ESSENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY ALTER WHETHER A JOURNEY PROPERTY WAS SUFFERED SUBSTANTIAL DETRIMENT AS A RESULT OF THE BARRACKS.
MS. NEWBIE WHERE THE VARIOUS WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECTED DELIVERY OF GOVERNMENTAL SERVICE, SUCH AS WATER, SANITARY, SEWER GARBAGE REMOVAL.
WHERE THE PROPERTY OWNER APPROACHED THE PROPERTY
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WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE ZONING RESTRICTION.WELL, THE PROPERTY OWNER, UM, P PREDICTIVE MAKE FEASIBLE.
HE CAN BE, ARBITRATED OPERATED THROUGH THE SOME OTHER METHOD OTHER THAN EVERENCE MR. DAVIDSON.
WHERE THE SPIRIT INTENT BEHIND THE ZONING REQUIREMENT WOULD BE OBSERVED, OBSERVED, UM, SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE DONE BY GRANTING THE VARIANCE.
THEN AFTER THAT, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE? I HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE.
I SECOND, IT'S BEEN SECOND AT CIC, WHICH HAS BEEN MOVED.
AND SECOND THAT THE VARIOUS WILL BE APPROVED.
I'M SECRETARY, WE TAKE THE ROLL PLEASE.
I NEED TO GET WITH THE CITY STAFF OR ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND STUFF THAT THEY NEED.
IS THERE A NEW, ADDITIONAL NEW, OR ANY BIT ADDITIONAL BUSINESS? NOT ON AGENDA.
WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THIS EVENING.
THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE MAY 4TH, 2022, AND JUNE 1ST, 2022.
IF THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL BUSINESS OR ANYTHING, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
SECOND AT THE MEETING IS A JAR.