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[ AGENDA MILITARY AND VETERANS COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road March 23, 2022 6:00 P.M. ]
IT'S 18.WE WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN BY STARTING A HUBER HEIGHTS AND MILITARY VETERANS COMMISSION.
AS ALWAYS, WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER DO OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND REMAIN STANDING.
AND THEN THE INVITATION AMERICA, INVISIBLE JUSTICE FOR ALL.
IN ALL DAYS, WE CHOOSE TO HONOR OUR MILITARY AND VETERANS, WHERE ARE THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO GAVE OF THEMSELVES WHEN THEY WERE CALLED UPON TO SERVE AND PROTECT OUR COUNTRY.
WE ASK FATHER THAT YOU BLESS THEM FOR THEIR UNSELFISH SERVICE AND FOR THE DEDICATION THEY HAVE SHOWN TO PRESERVE OUR FREEDOMS, OUR SAFETY AND OUR COUNTRY'S HERITAGE.
PLEASE FATHER BLESSED HIM ABUNDANTLY FOR THE HARDSHIPS THEY FACE FOR THE SACRIFICES THEY MAKE AND FOR THEIR MANY CONTRIBUTIONS TO AMERICA'S VICTORY, OVER TYRANNY AND OPPRESSION.
WE ARE PROUD OF THEM, AND WE PRAY THAT YOU WILL WATCH OVER THEM.
THESE VERY SPECIAL PEOPLE, HEAVENLY FATHER, HOLD OUR TROOPS IN YOUR LOVING HANDS, PROTECT THEM AS THEY PROTECT US, BLESS THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES FOR THE SELFLESS ACTS.
THEY PERFORM FOR US IN THIS OUR TIME OF DEEDS.
LORD, PLEASE GUIDE US IN OUR ENDEAVORS TODAY AND BLESS ALL THOSE MILITARY AND VETERANS WHOM WE HONOR WITH PEACE AND HAPPINESS.
THESE THINGS I HUMBLY ASK IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, OUR LORD AND SAVIOR.
UH, MR. AL GREG'S MR. ANTHONY WINDSOR.
MR. JOHN BANQUETS HERE, MR. RAY, GERARD, MR. THOMAS DAVON HERE, MR. KEYSON.
NEXT IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES THAT EVERYBODY GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES THAT ANYONE HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE MINUTES, ANY CORRECTIONS BY YOUR SILENCE.
I WOULD TAKE THAT AS A NOTE, WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE OR LAST MONTH'S MINUTES.
IT'S BEEN A SECOND AND APPROVE ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED HOW THE SAME RIGHT.
ANNOUNCEMENTS AND SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS.
UH, DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING, UH, CITIZENS COMMENTS.
UH, YOU SEE ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE MEMORIAL BRICKS AND VETERAN MEMORIAL, BUT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO TABLE THAT FOR JUST A MOMENT TO GET AN UPDATE ON THE, THE WALL, THE MEMORIAL WALL AT HUBER HEIGHTS HIGH SCHOOL.
I MET WITH COLONEL REDWOOD AND HE IS ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT IT.
HE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO IT AND HE'S TAKING IT FORWARD TO THE ACTING PRINCIPAL AND SETTING UP A MEETING FOR US.
SO HE'LL LET US KNOW THAT'S AN UPDATE RIGHT NOW.
THE ONE WE, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT TO TACKLE THE MEMORIAL BRICKS AT THE VETERANS MEMORIAL.
CAN I MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON THE LAST ITEM, PLEASE? GO AHEAD, SIR.
AND WE, UH, WHEN WE ESTABLISHED THE WALL OF HONOR PROJECT, EVEN THOUGH WE QUOTE TURNED IT OVER TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, UH, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT CONTACT WITH THE AMVETS IN AMERICA, LEGIONS AND VFWS AND THE LIKE, AND, UH, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT MR BANK WAS, AND I HAVE DIRECT EXPERIENCE DELVING INTO THE INTIMATE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT WE EX WE ANTICIPATED THAT WE WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE FUTURE OF THAT PROJECT HAS A WAYNE HIGH SCHOOL AND IN JUST A CONSULTATIVE BASIS.
NUMBER ONE, AND NUMBER TWO IS TO CONTINUE OUR INTEREST IN HONORING THE VETERANS OF HUBER HEIGHTS.
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ALL RIGHT.SO FORWARD THE MEMORIAL BREAKS WE HAVE MIKE, UH, NUMBER ONE IS ENGRAVER CAPABILITY.
SO MIKE IS GOING TO GIVE US A UPDATE ON THAT ON NUMBER TWO.
UM, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION REGARDING THE QUALIFICATIONS.
DO THEY NEED TO DD TWO 14 AN AWARD? UM, THAT WAS OUR HOMEWORK TO COME BACK WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS AND HOPEFULLY GET SOMETHING APPROVED WITH REGARD TO WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE ON ONE OF THE MEMORIAL BRICKS AT THE VETERANS MEMORIAL.
AND THEN LAST IS THE PRICING NUMBER OF LINES, WHICH IS KIND OF TIED TO NUMBER ONE WITH, UM, MIKE'S UPDATES.
UM, WELL BASICALLY WITH THE, UM, QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED, IT'S KIND OF GONNA, UM, REFLECT AS FAR AS, UM, THE GRAYBAR CAPABILITIES AND THE, UM, PRICING WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
AND BASICALLY, UM, IF YOU ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE MEMORIAL, HOW IT'S SET UP AS FAR AS WHERE THE BRICKS ARE, WHERE THE ANTICIPATED AREA WAS, IS THOSE ARE CONCRETE AND ARE THERE WHITE CONCRETE AND A GRAY CONCRETE AND A GRANITE BRICK BASICALLY.
SO YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF KIND OF MATERIAL.
SO WHAT THAT ENTAILS IS, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION OF, UH, SOME, SOME WOULD RECOMMEND THEM BEING ENGRAVED SOME WITH THE GRANITE BEING EXTRA LASER ETCHED.
WHICH IS COST WOULD COST COURSE COST MORE, MORE, MORE MONEY.
UM, AND SO THEN BASICALLY WE, HOW WE WOULD DO THIS AND THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO DO LIKE AN A 50 BRICK PROCESS AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, START OUR SALE AT X DATE CLOSE OUT OF THIS DATE.
IF WE HAVE 50, YOU KNOW, THEN THIS, THIS COMPANY SAID THEY CAN DO IT FROM WORK, YOU KNOW, THIS PRICE, BUT THEY DIDN'T GIVE ME THE PRICE OF THE ETCHING PER WHARTON.
UM, I'M TOLD THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN ETCHING AND ENGRAVING UPON DIFFERENT STONE DUE TO THE FACT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ETCHING ON SOMETHING VERSUS ENGRAVE IT ON SOMETHING WHICH MAKES IT DIFFERENT FOR SANDBLASTING PURPOSES OF WHAT STONE YOU'RE DOING.
AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF IT, UM, THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION FOR, FOR SOME OF THESE BRICKS FROM THE ORIGINAL, UH, CONTRACTOR AND ARCHITECTURAL COMPANY THAT DID ORIGINALLY DID THE MEMORIAL WAS ANYWHERE FROM 300 TO $400 A BRICK, WHAT? YES.
THE SAME, WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, JUST FOR THE ENGRAVING ALONE, YOU KNOW, THE CHEAPEST PRICE THAT JUST FOR ENGRAVING THAT'S THAT'S ENGRAVING, WHICH COULD OR COULD NOT BE RECOMMENDED FOR CERTAIN GRANITE VERSUS CONCRETE IS $33 TO $75 TO $80 A BREAK.
SO THEN THAT'S NOT PLACEMENT OF THE BRICKS AS WELL.
SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU GOT, IF YOU HAVE A TIMEFRAME LEADS, LET'S SAY THREE MONTHS, THEN WE HAVE 50 BRICKS AND WE GET 50 BRICKS OF DONATED, OR WE GET 10.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO RUN INTO? RIGHT.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU MIGHT DO 50, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY PEOPLE TO DO 50, OR THERE MIGHT BE A HUNDRED, RIGHT.
SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PROCESS AS WELL.
SO THERE'S KIND OF A LOT OF UNKNOWNS AND, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT, AND ESPECIALLY WITH TIMEFRAME OF GIDDY, THE KIND OF CONSTRUCTIVELY LABOR WORK OF, FOR FULLY THE BRICKS AND LAYING THE BRICKS DOWN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT PROCESS AS FAR AS WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE INSTALLED OR NOT INSTALLED.
WE CAN SET, WE CAN SET A PARAMETER OF, LET'S SAY ONE WORLD DAY RIGHT NOW, IF WE SOLD 50 BRICKS FROM NOW TO MEMORIAL DAY, WILL THE ENGRAVERS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET TO UNTIL JULY? SO THESE ARE KIND OF THE LIMITATIONS WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND, AND DOING MORE RESEARCH ABOUT THIS, I JUST WANTED YOU GUYS TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF SOME OF THESE THINGS.
AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE MORE FURTHER IN DEPTH OF, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, TO ME, IS, IS IT FEASIBLE TO CHARGE THAT MUCH FOR A BRICK? I MEAN, THAT'S FINE.
I DON'T HAVE THAT REALLY OPINION REALLY.
CAN I GUESS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THOUGH? UH, BASICALLY I GOT TWO QUESTIONS.
CAN YOU HIP SHOT A UNIT COST OF ONE BRICK ENGRAVED? YOU DO ROUGHLY ROUGHLY OF ONE PLAIN BRICK, YOU KNOW, THE USUAL SMALL SATURDAY, WHAT? 35 TO $80.
SO THE THREE TO 400 THING KIND OF, THAT WAS, THAT'S JUST THE BRICK THAT'S NOT BEING INSTALLED.
YOU STILL GOT TO, YOU GOT TO COVER YOUR COST OF INSTALLATION.
WELL, WHICH ONE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE WHOLE PROCESS HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
THE ORIGINAL THREE TO $400 WAS FROM THE ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURAL COMPANY.
THE $75 WAS FROM THE COMPANY OUT OF LEBANON.
UM, AND THEN I GOT ANOTHER MONUMENT COMPANY OUT OF,
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UM, LOCAL HERE THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, 33, BUT THAT WAS JUST FOR ENGRAVING.UH, I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING, I HAVE TO EMPHASIZE UNIT COSTS.
IF WE HAD A GOOD COMPANY THAT WOULD SAY, GIVE A BRICK WITH AN ENGRAVING.
AND IF, IF THAT, IF HE COULD GET THAT RELIABLY, THEN YOU COULD SEGMENT THAT INTO THE INSTALLATION PROCESS.
SOME OF THE PROBLEM WE WERE HAVING AND I'M FINDING DIFFICULT WITH IS SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE THIS PROCESS IS THEY'RE USED TO SUPPLYING THEIR OWN BRICKS.
LIKE YOU COULD CALL JOE JOE GUY DOWN HERE AT THE ENGRAVING COMPANY.
THEN HE'S GOING TO SAY, I'LL GIVE YOU 50 BRICKS AT THIS PRICE.
THAT'S YOUR UNIT COST THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? WE ALREADY HAVE 198 ON HAND THAT WE HAVE TO UTILIZE.
SO UTILIZING OUR OWN BRICKS, I'M RUNNING INTO A PROCESS.
IT ESPECIALLY THERE'LL BE THREE, TWO TO THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BRICKS.
WELL, BUT MY OTHER QUESTION WAS REAL SHORT AND, UH, WELL, ONE OF THE QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED IS TO SUE FOR THE BRIT TO SUBMIT A D D 14, CONFIRMING THAT THE VETERAN HONOR DOES IN FACT, A MILITARY SERVICE, CORRECT.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DISCUSS.
WHAT'S THAT THAT'S NOT TO BE A PRETTY SIMPLE PROCESS IN ESSENCE, IF THEY COULD FIND IT.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS IF, IF A VETERAN WALKS IN OR IF, UH, UH, SON OF A VETERAN WALKS IN HERE, I WANT A BRICK.
WHO DOES HE HAND IT TO? WE'RE NOT EVEN THERE YET.
OH, I WAS GOING TO SAY, CAN WE GO BACK TO JUST THE INITIAL CONVERSATION? CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S LIKE SEVERAL DIFFERENT LAYERS TO WHAT WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT.
UM, HOW IS THERE A POSSIBLE WAY SINCE WE DO HAVE THE BRICKS, AT LEAST FOR THE INITIAL OUTLAY OF PROBABLY THE FIRST THREE ORDERS, IF WE LOOK AT 50 EACH, RIGHT.
WITH A FEW EXTRAS, IS THERE ANY OF THE ENGRAVING OR LIKE DODDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WOULD MAYBE DO A SPONSORSHIP WITH US? SO WE GIVE THEM ONE OF THE BRICKS AND WE PUT, YOU KNOW, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH DOGS OR I DON'T KNOW, WE PUT A PLAQUE UP SOMEPLACE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH DOTS AND THEY DO THE ENGRAVING.
UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE GALLERIES ARE DOING THAT FOR YOU AND EVERYBODY HAS EVER, EVER I'VE TALKED TO FOUR FROM THE PAST THREE WEEKS, I'VE TALKED TO FOUR DIFFERENT MONUMENT COMPANIES.
THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN SEPARATE KIND OF PROCESS THEY WANT TO DO OR MAKE AN ACCOMPLISHMENT, UM, TO DO THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, I TRIED TO GET A UNIT PRICE.
UM, WHAT I WOULD DO RIGHT NOW, MOVING FORWARD, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO KIND OF SETTLE UPON A PRICE THAT, THAT EVERYONE'S COMFORTABLE WITH AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE TWO DIFFERENT PRICES OF FOREST GRANITE VERSUS CONCRETE.
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH ASKING A DONATOR TO DONATE IS GOING TO HAVE TO COVER THOSE COSTS, THE BRICKS.
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IF WE SELL 50 BRICKS, THEY'RE TAKING 50 BRICKS OUT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUY ANY MORE BRICKS FOR THE OTHER ALTERNATIVES.
SO THAT'S MY SECONDARY QUESTION IS CAN WE DO AN INSTALL? NO.
NAH, I WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING IT.
IT WOULD BE ME AND I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING IT.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN OTHER MEMORIALS WHERE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS HOW SOME OF THE THINGS GOT.
I, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE UNLESS I'M ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT THE RESPONSIBILITY TO SOMEONE ELSE WHO'S, YOU KNOW, FINANCIALLY MASON, EXACTLY.
35 MASON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE BOND, ISN'T ALL THAT GOOD.
IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL, BUT MAY NOT GONNA MAKE IT LOOK BEAUTIFUL DONALD RIGHT NOW.
SO LET'S GO TO NANCY AND THEN WE'LL GO TO YOU.
LET ME ASK A QUESTION AFTER WE DO THOSE FIRST HUNDRED 97 BRICKS.
WHAT'S THE PLAN AFTER THAT? HE'S JUST SAYING WE PULLED THE 9,897 OUT OF THE GROUND WITH THE 197.
AFTER WE'VE USED UP ALL THAT SPACE, THERE'S GOING TO BE, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN EXPANDED TRAIL SOMEWHERE FOR MORE BRICKS.
SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHY, WHY PULL UP THOSE HUNDRED 97 BRICKS? I MEAN, IT'S VERY AESTHETICALLY PLEASING THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.
IT MIGHT BE CHEAPER TO GO TO A VENDOR, SET A STANDARD RIGHT NOW FOR WHAT WE WILL SEE DOWN THE FUTURE AS WE, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, WITH THE PATH.
AND THEN, UM, AND I MEAN, THEN THAT'S JUST ONE APPROACH.
SO WE HAVE UNIFORMITY, UM, AND NOT ALL THESE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR CONCRETE AND GRANTED AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
UH, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM
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THE VERY BEGINNING THAT WE ONLY HAD LIKE 74 BRICKS THAT WERE DELIVERED TO US.SO WHEN YOU SAID 197, I THOUGHT 198, WHATEVER IT IS, THE OTHER, THE OTHER COMMENT I HAD IS RED PAD HAS DONE THIS BEFORE.
UM, HAVE WE CONTACTED THEM ON WHO THEY'VE DEALT WITH? IT WOULD BE A REALLY SMART THING TO DO.
I MEAN, CAUSE THEY HAVE STOPPED.
THEY HAVE STOPPED USING THE SANDBLASTING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LAST LONG TERM.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME ETCHING AND I'LL TELL YOU QUITE FRANKLY, THAT, WHAT IS IT, IMAGE DESIGNS DOWN IN LEBANON? I THINK THAT'S HER NAME.
THEY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT NAMES.
THEY, UM, THEY HAD THE BEST PRICE SCHOOL AND AT LEAST WHEN I BOUGHT MY HUSBAND'S BENCH, BUT WE NEED TO COMPETE IT.
WE NEED TO SEND A PROPOSAL OUT AND SEE WHAT, WHAT THEY CAN DO.
UH, THIS IS, THIS IS WE'VE GOT TO MAKE IT AFFORDABLE FOR OUR VETERANS FAMILIES.
SO IF WE CAN GET A COMPANY THAT SAYS WE'LL DO THE FIRST 50 AND WE'LL DO ALL THOSE SUBSEQUENT ONES THAT THIS COST OR WHATEVER, THEN WE'RE DEALING WITH ONE VENDOR AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL PUT THEM IN AND JUST IT'D BE A ONE-STOP SHOP.
SO I MEAN, JUST SO UNCLEAR AS FAR AS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS YOU'RE YOU'RE ARE YOU WANTING TO RUN AN RFP FOR THIS OR IT MIGHT BE, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY IN THE LONG RUN, IF WE WERE EVENTUALLY PLANNING TO HAVE 500 IN THE LONG RUN, I MEAN, I CAN MENTION, SO I CAN'T DECIDE UPON THAT.
WELL, I IT'S GOING TO GROW WELL, I THINK WHAT WAS THE INTENTION OF THE BRICKS FROM THE, UM, CAUSE I WASN'T ON THE COMMITTEE OR AWARE OF WHAT THE HAPPENINGS WERE AT THAT TIME.
SO I GUESS I WOULD ASK THEM WHAT THE COMMISSION, AS FAR AS WHAT THE BRICKS BEING, HOW WAS THERE SUPPOSED TO BE? YOU KNOW, HOW MANY BRICKS WAS THERE SUPPOSED TO BE? I GUESS I'M TRYING TO ASK THAT, UH, YOU, YOU CAME UP WITH THE BASIC CONCEPT, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, I DON'T, I THINK, UH, PROVIDING THE NUMBER AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS IS A STRUGGLE.
I DON'T, I WOULDN'T FEEL THAT I COULD CREDIBLY RESPOND TO YOU BECAUSE WHAT WE GOT TO DO IS BASICALLY RESPOND IN A PATTERN, WHICH IS INITIAL PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO.
BUT I HAVE, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THOSE NUMBERS MIGHT BE.
A LOT OF IT DEPENDS ON PEOPLE WHO SAY, HEY, SIGN ME UP AND THE PRICE.
WELL, THERE WAS A FLASH AT THE BEGINNING, NONE OF THE TAIL OFF, AS, YOU KNOW, AS TIME WENT BY THE PEOPLE THAT ONE BRICK PROBABLY GOING TO DO IT RIGHT NOW, AS SOON AS, UH, AS SOON AS IT OPENS UP FOR HIM, AS FAR AS, UH, THE QUALIFICATIONS GO, WHY DON'T WE HAVE QUALIFICATIONS? WHY SHOULD ANYBODY BE ABLE TO PUT A BRICK OUT THERE? THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS.
IT'S NOT SAYING WE NEED TO HAVE QUALIFICATIONS.
BUT EVERY, EVERY, EVERY MILITARY PERSON HAS A MOTHER OR WIFE OR A HUSBAND OR SOMEBODY BACK THERE THAT WAS SUPPORTING THEM.
THEY WAS SERVING RIGHT ALONG WITH THE PERSON AND THEY DESERVE A BRICK THERE AS MUCH AS ANYBODY.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY DO NOT.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS BASED WHEN HE WENT, WHEN, WHEN, UM, TONY CAME BACK AND HE WAS TELLING ME THAT WHEN TONY CAME BACK WITH THE, WHAT HE SAW, UM, THEIR REQUIREMENT AT THAT LOCATION WAS TO HAVE A DD TWO 14.
SO THAT WAS, WE, WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION WHILE YOU WERE IN LOVELY FLORIDA, WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS? DO THEY NEED A DD, TWO 14? DO THEY NEED TO AWARD? IS IT JUST FOR VETERANS? IS IT FOR SPOUSES? IS IT FOR EVERYBODY? THAT WAS SOMETHING WE TABLE.
AND THE HOMEWORK WAS FOR US TO PAN THAT OUT.
AFTER WE HAVE DELVED INTO THE ENGRAVER CAPABILITIES AND ALL THAT STUFF, THE CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING NOW.
SO TO YOU, MS. NANCY, UM, WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
AT THE BEGINNING, WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW MANY, LIKE WE NEED 500 BRICKS AND THAT'S HOW MANY WERE GONE.
AND THEN EVEN TO SAY LATER ON, WE DON'T KNOW ANY OF THAT.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL IN THE BEGINNING STAGES, WE'RE GETTING INFORMATION.
THAT'S HOW WE CAN KNOW HOW TO PROCEED FORWARD.
SO THE FIRST INFORMATION WAS TO FIND OUT FROM MIKE TO FIND OUT FOR US HOW MUCH IT WILL COST FOR BREAK.
BUT THEN HE'S SAYING, OKAY, IF WE USE OUR BRICKS, A BRICK IS GOING TO BE REMOVED.
SO WE WOULD HAVE A CONTINUOUS SUPPLY AT LEAST UP TO THE 1 98.
SO THAT WOULD BE WHATEVER, WHAT 400,
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ALMOST 400 BRICKS THAT WE WOULD HAVE.CAUSE THE 1 98, YOU BUY ONE, YOU'RE REPLACING ONE, RIGHT? THAT WAS THE PROCESS THAT COMING FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S THE PROCESS.
SO THAT IS WHAT WE WERE GOING OFF OF.
AND THIS IS JUST THE FIRST TIME ALL OF US ARE HEARING THIS.
WE DON'T HAVE, THIS IS ALL DEVELOPMENTAL AND WE'RE ALL BRINGING UP GOOD QUESTIONS.
YOU'RE BRINGING UP GOOD INFORMATION AS WELL.
SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO IF THERE'S A WAY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO HASH EVERYTHING OUT TODAY, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN REACH OUT TO MIKE AND FIND OUT IF WE GO THE RFP ROUTE, WHERE IS THAT MONEY COMING FROM? LIKE, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT STUFF.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THE, THE CITY'S MONEY WORK AND ALL THAT STUFF.
SO IT WOULD BE MORE, UM, MORE IN DEPTH.
YOU COULD TELL ME THOUGH, BUT THERE WOULD BE A MORE IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION REGARDING YOUR RIGHT.
WELL, THE MONEY IS NOT THE DRIVER RIGHT NOW, THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE DRIVER.
AND THE REASON THAT I SUGGESTED TO MIKE THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO AN RFP IS BECAUSE, AND I TRYING TO MUDDLE THIS UP, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO BE LOOKING AT ORGANIZATIONAL PLAQUES, WHETHER IT'S A VSO OR IF IT'S A BUSINESS OR SOMEBODY ELSE, THERE'S DIFFERENT KINDS OF PLAQUES.
AND IF WE GO TO DODDS OR SOME OF THESE OTHER MEMORIAL COMPANIES, THEY'RE A PASS THROUGH, SO THAT WOULD RAISE THE COST.
SO MAYBE IF WE WENT OUT FOR AN RFP AND SAID, THIS IS, AND, AND I THINK MIKE, I THINK YOU ALREADY HAVE THE INFORMATION ON THE ONE THAT KETTERING IS WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY DID THEIR, I THINK THERE MAY BE SOME CONFUSION IN AN RFP, AS FAR AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST LIKE THE, THE F THE, THE WALKING BREAKS THAT WERE SUPPOSEDLY FOR SPECIFICALLY BOUGHT FOR THIS WAS CIVIC GRIT DONATION.
THERE MAY BE SOME CONFUSION WITH, WITH THIS ALL HERE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE STILL WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, AS FAR AS WHAT THE STANDARD OF DIFFERENT PLAQUES IN THAT THING ARE GOING TO BE.
THAT'S A WHOLE SEPARATE KIND OF THING AND ENTITY RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GET PLATE BASE OF WHAT WE HAVE.
WE ALREADY HAVE 198 BRICKS ON HAND.
HOW AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO CHARGE FOR THESE TO BE ENGRAVED AND FROM A CITIZEN TO BE DONATED INTO THEIR 50 AT A TIME FOR TIME PERIOD.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE STILL HAVE, WE STILL HAVE SOME EXPLORATORY WORK.
AND LIKE I SAID, THE EXPLORATORY WORK IS ALSO OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE, NO ONE WOULD CHARGE THIS MUCH X AMOUNT.
WE DECIDED THAT WE HAD TO DECIDE ON A TIMEFRAME WHAT THE TIMEFRAME IS GOING TO BE.
WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR DONATIONS FOR THESE BREAKS, 50 OF THEM TO COMMIT TO X COMPANY TO SAY, WE WANT THIS TIMEFRAME TO GET THIS DONE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ASK THAT, THAT COMPANY, THAT, THAT TIME ARE YOU ABLE TO DO THIS? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE COMPANY THAT I, ONE OF THE COMPANIES I'VE TALKED TO, THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, IF WE GOT THEM 50 BRICKS TODAY, THEY COULDN'T EVEN START THEM UNTIL JULY.
SO THESE ARE THE, THESE ARE LIMITATIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND FINDING THE POT.
I MEAN, IN TODAY'S WORLD THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, THAT I MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, BUT TO GET ANYTHING DONE, EVEN NEW CARPET OVER HERE, THIS HAS BEEN PULLED ON MY HAIR.
MY ONLY POINT WAS THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, IF, IF THESE FIRST HUNDRED NINE, EIGHT BRICKS BECOME COST PROHIBITIVE, BECAUSE I MEAN, IF THE COST IS HUGE AND IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE AVERAGE, VETERAN'S, YOU KNOW, ABILITY TO BUY.
AND THEN, UM, AND THEN I ASKED THAT WE LOOK LONG RANGE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I'LL, I'LL WC IS DOING THE DESIGN.
DO WE HAVE AN IDEA WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH THEIR WORK? UM, I'VE NOT HEARD FROM HIM SINCE OUR RECENT DISCUSSIONS IN THE PAST TWO WEEKS.
I HAD DISCUSSION WITH THEM LAST WEEK AND, UM, ABOUT SOME OTHER THINGS DOWN THERE, BUT STILL WORKING OUT SOME OTHER ISSUES WE'RE HAVING DOWN THERE WITH THAT KNOW THEY'RE WORKING ON OTHER THINGS THAT WERE NEW.
AND I HAVE KIND OF IN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF EMAIL CONTACT ABOUT AS WELL, BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD.
IS THERE ANY INFORMATION YOU NEED IS NOT WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO SAY? OH, WAIT, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, YOU DON'T.
GO AHEAD AND PAY THE FIRST, I GUESS RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, I WOULDN'T COST THEM THE BRAKES.
WELL, I MEAN, I THINK RIGHT NOW, I THINK, YOU KNOW, DON'T, I'M NOT ASKING YOU ALL TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT.
THAT'S DEFINITELY NOT WHAT I'M SAYING.
WHAT WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS A COST FEASIBLE FOR A VETERAN'S FAMILY, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, AND THEN WHAT I NEED FROM THE COMMISSION AS WELL AS TO MOVE FORWARD IS LIKE THE DECISIONS OF, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR POINT A LITTLE BIT IS, I MEAN, DO YOU WANT JOHN'S AUTO PARKS TO HAVE A BREAK DOWN
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THERE? I THAT'S THAT'S COMMISSIONS WAS THE MONEY PUT A BRICK IN THERE.YEAH, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DISCUSS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE MY FATHER FOUGHT IN WORLD WAR TWO.
MY OLDEST BROTHER FOUGHT WORLD WAR II.
ONE OF MY OTHER BROTHERS FOUGHT IN KOREA.
I'D LOVE TO PUT THEM BRICK IN THERE, BUT THERE'S NO WAY IN HELL I CAN GET A TWO 14 FOR HIM.
YOU CAN'T TIE IT UP LIKE THAT.
I'M NOT SAYING WE WILL, IS SOMETHING WE WILL DISCUSS AFTER WE LEAVE THE ENGRAVER ENGRAVERS.
SO FOR TONIGHT FOR YOU, DO YOU NEED US TO GO, UM, PERSON BY PERSON AND GIVE YOU, OR WE ALL AGREE COME TO AN AGREEMENT TO SAY A HUNDRED DOLLARS.
THAT'S THE CAT, ANYTHING MORE THAN A HUNDRED DOLLARS.
WE DON'T WANT TO GO WITH THAT COMPANY.
LIKE, WHAT IS THAT WHAT YOU NEED FROM US? WOULD THAT HELP YOU IN YOUR RESEARCH? UH, WHAT I WAS WONDERING, UM, I KNOW THAT YOU SAY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND RIGHT.
THAT, SO WE HAD TO FIND SOMEONE THAT'S ABLE TO ACTUALLY TAKE THE BRICKS TO REMOVE THE BRICKS, AND THAT'S GOING TO THE PARK.
THAT'S A SEPARATE, AND THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE COST.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO IT'S A SEPARATE COST ON THE ENGRAVING.
SO, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO, AND I KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRY AND PUT THAT COST INTO THE AGREEMENT PROCESS, ALONG WITH IT, THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO RECRUIT THEM WITH THE MONEY, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THEY'LL TAKE THE GREAT TO TAKE IT OUT? YOU GOTTA FIGURE THAT OUT AND PUT THEM BACK IN AGAIN.
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT MAYBE YOU WERE TELLING ME THE REASON WHY IT WAS SO MUCH OKAY.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS THE BOAT PROCESSES KNOW ALL THREE PROCESSES, MIKE, I THOUGHT YOU WAS SAYING, WHEN YOU SAID 300, I THOUGHT YOU WAS SAYING THAT WOULD BE THAT BIG PRICE AND PUT IN THE GROUND.
THE ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURE NUMBER, BUT YEAH, THAT'S SORT OF WHEN IT WAS FIRST.
SO WHAT HE'S SAYING IS WHEN THE PARK WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED, THAT'S HOW MUCH IT WAS FOR THEM TO DO.
NOT SAYING THAT'S HOW MUCH IT IS WHEN WE START SELLING THE BRICKS.
SO, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THE BRICK IS GOING TO BE IN GRAPE.
THEN A BRICK IS GOING TO BE REMOVED IF WE GO THAT WAY.
AND THEN A BRICK IS GOING TO BE PUT IN SO THAT WE CAN'T, ARE WE PUTTING THAT COST TO OFFSET? LIKE TONY WAS SAYING, ARE WE GOING TO OFFSET THAT? SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING TODAY THAT I THINK IF WE CAME UP WITH A PRICE, SO NOW MIKE COULD GO OUT AND EXECUTE AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS THE AMOUNT WE CAN SPEND.
AND THEN LIKE NANCY BROUGHT UP AND, UM, DANA ABOUT PARTNERING AND ALL THAT STUFF.
ONCE WE GET A PRICE FOR HOW MUCH WE FEEL COMFORTABLE CHARGING A VETERAN OR VETERANS, FAMILY, OR A BUSINESS OR WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE AFTER WE GAVE HIM THAT PRICE, THEN WE CAN GO INTO QUALIFICATIONS, NO QUALIFICATIONS.
UH, UM, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT SPEED.
WE CAN HAVE A BREAK AT THE MEMORIAL IF THEY WANT TO.
OR IF IT'S A VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK, WE ONLY WANT VETERANS OR SOMEONE MILITARY AFFILIATED.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT.
SO FOR NOW I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, YOU THINK WE COULD AGREE ON A PRICE, A CAT? LIKE WE COULD JUST GO STARTING WITH YOU, TOM, AND JUST GO DOWN THE LINE AND SAY, WHAT'S YOUR PRICE.
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BRICKS THAT ARE IN RIGHT NOW IS THE SUPPORT.
NOW SOME OF THOSE ARE DIFFERENT LENS.
THE AVERAGE WORK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PURCHASE IS THREE BY THREE BY 18.
THE OTHER ONES WON'T BE A GRAVE.
IF THEY'RE SHORTER OR NOT, I'LL JUST BE THOSE ONES THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY THAT SIZE.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE HALF BRICK WITH, YOU KNOW, MY NAME IS MICHAEL AND I'M NOT GONNA PUT MIC.
WELL, AS FAR AS PRICING GOES, I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH A COMPANY OUT OF FLORIDA.
SOME OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO START WITH TIME.
THEY JUST SENT ME OPPRESSION, PREFERRED INNER FOUR BLADE BRICK WOULD BE $19 AND 50 CENTS.
THE PRICE WOULDN'T HAVE FOUR BY EIGHT BRICKS RIGHT NOW, A FOUR BY EIGHT.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE IF THREE BY THREE BY 18 THREE BY 18.
THAT'S WHAT THIS WAS PRESENTLY THERE.
AND WE'VE HAD TO GET RID OF THAT.
WE HAD TO GET RID OF THE 198 BREAK FIRST, BUT WE'VE AGAIN, WE COULD EVEN, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE CAN EVEN PUT THEM IN A MIX BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE, I MEAN, COULDN'T, I MEAN, WHO HAD TO TAKE THE BRICKS OUT, SHIP THEM, GET THEM IN.
THEY HAD THEM SHIPPED BACK FROM FREE DALE AND DOLLAR SHOULD BE FREE TO TAKE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT GETTING THEM DOWN THERE WOULD BE A HASSLE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND THEN, SO WE HAD TO GET RID OF OUR 198 BREAK FOR IT, BUT I UNDERSTAND.
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING FOR US? I DO.
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UM, FIRST, MR. MIKE, I'M REALLY SORRY.I DIDN'T SEND YOU THIS VIA EMAIL.
I DIDN'T HAVE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS.
AND WE KIND OF CHATTED ABOUT THIS RIGHT BEFORE WE LEFT THE MEETING THAT I WAS AT.
SO WE MOVED HERE FROM GRAND FORKS AND THEY WERE STANDING UP SOMETHING JUST LIKE THIS.
UM, AND THEY WERE DOING BRICKS THAT WERE EIGHT BY 12 AND FEATURED FOUR LINES OF CUSTOMIZED TEXT, 18 CHARACTERS PER LINE, GRANITE BRICKS AND THEIR COSTS.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THEIR COST WAS $200 PER, PER BRICK, AND THAT WAS ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND SO FOUR LINES, FOUR LINES, 18 CHARACTERS PER LINE, INCLUDING SPACES AND DASHES.
AND I CAN SEND THIS TO YOU AND I PROMISE YOU I'LL GET YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS BEFORE WE LEAVE.
AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET AT THIS TIME.
ALL RIGHT, MR. TOM, WHAT YOU GOT? OKAY.
WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON? UM, YOU'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO ON DOWN THE LINE TO SEE WHAT YOU THINK A REASONABLE PRICE WOULD BE FOR A FAMILY BUSINESS.
WELL, WE ARE NOT GOING TO INCLUDE BUSINESSES YET, A FAMILY OF A VETERAN OR A SPOUSE OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
WHAT IS YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR PRICE? THE CAT, GIVE ME THE MAX MAXI.
I FEEL LIKE I WANT TO PRICE IS RIGHT HERE.
EVERYBODY'S ON FIELD LIKE THAT OR GOING DOWN THE LINE, I WOULD SAY 250.
MR. JOHN, I WOULD SAY 50 TO 75.
I THINK ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT.
YOU'RE PUSHING IT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT IF IT, WHAT IF WE LEAVE THE BRICKS AND THERE THEY'RE THERE AND PICK A DIFFERENT SECTION AND GO WITH A SIMPLE SIZED BRICK WHEN I STARTED AT DIFFERENT, YEAH.
THAT'S, YOU'RE JUMPING ON NANCY'S NINETIES COATTAILS, BUT YES, THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED, BUT I IT'S NOTED.
WELL, I'LL DISAGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BANKWEST BY JUST $25.
I THINK A FLAT 100 IS THE MOST APPEALING TO MOST PEOPLE.
I MEAN, IT'S MORE MARKETABLE AS A NUMBER AND IT'S, UH, I HARDLY CONCUR WITH, JOHN'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE FAMILY'S ABILITY TO PAY FROM.
SO YOU'RE SAYING A HUNDRED BUCKS.
I WOULD AGREE ALREADY WAS SAYING A HUNDRED, SO I WOULD A HUNDRED.
WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ASK YOU MIKE.
UM, I'M KIND OF, I GET THE CONVENIENCE OF A HUNDRED DOLLARS, BUT I THINK I'M ALSO WITH JOHN A. LITTLE BIT IN HAVING ENGAGED WITH SOME OF OUR MILITARY FAMILIES, A HUNDRED DOLLARS IS GOING TO BE A HARD, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S ONE OF OUR, UM, POTENTIALLY ON FIXED INCOME FAMILIES THAT MIGHT NOT BE IN.
SO I DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE SOME SORT OF SPECIAL FUND THAT MAYBE WE HELP OUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S LIKE SOME WAY THAT WE STILL HELP FACILITATE SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE JUST NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IT.
UM, SO I DIDN'T GET GOOD ANSWER.
UM, MAX WOULD BE A HUNDRED BY HIGHWAY INCREASED.
I WOULD STILL BE CONSIDERED, WE'LL BE CONCERNED, BUT THAT'S YOUR CAT.
ALL RIGHT, MR. HUGH, WHAT'D YOU SAY? 50 OR 75.
AND MR. ANTHONY, I'D SAY $99 BECAUSE NO, BECAUSE THERE'S A MARKETING AS A MARKETING STRATEGY AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S NOT A HUNDRED, IF NOT, EVEN THOUGH I WOULD SAY 99, I'LL SAY 98 99.
SO I'M JUST SAYING, I KNOW THERE'S A MARKETING STRATEGY.
MAYBE WE NEED TO DO IT LIKE THAT.
I'LL SEE WHAT I CAN COME UP WITH WITH THESE, KNOW SOME OF THIS INFORMATION TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, AND, AND CHECK ON BETTER, MORE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD TELL ME, WOULD IT BE TO INSTALL THESE THINGS AND KIND OF GO FROM THERE? UM, HOW DO YOU, I'M SORRY, I CAN'T SEE YOU.
UM, HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO MAYBE TALK WITH ANYBODY OVER AT THE NATIONAL MUSEUM OF THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE? UM,
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BECAUSE I'M THINKING THEY HAVE THEIR WHOLE MEMORIAL PARK AND SOME WAYS THEY GET THEIR WORK DONE, IT COULD BE STAFFED AND INSTALLED WITHOUT QUESTION, BUT THEY PROBABLY DO.DO YOU MIND IF I JUST MAKE A CONTACT SO THAT I CAN GIVE THEM TO YOU? IT MAY NOT BE WORTH RIGHT.
WELL, ONE OF THE LIKELY IT'S GOING TO BE A LOCAL CONTRACTOR THAT DOES IT, AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A SIMILAR CONTRACTOR THAT I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONTACT EVENTUALLY AS WELL.
AND IT'S MORE, MORE SO THAN LIKELY IT'S GOING TO BE ONE, THE THREE THAT HAVE ALREADY BID ON IT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO KNOW THOSE PRICES IS PRETTY MUCH WHERE THEY ARE, BUT YOU KNOW, EVEN MORE THAN I WELCOMED THE INFORMATION.
WHAT ABOUT IT? IF THERE'S STILL ONE AROUND HER, IF WE COULD FIND A, A, A COMBAT CONSTRUCTION UNIT WITH THE NATIONAL GUARD AND GET THEM TO COME AND PUT THE BRICKS IN PLACE, THEY DO IT FOR FREE THAT'S, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER.
I KNOW IT'S IF IT'S, UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I HAD, I WAS IN A COMBAT CONSTRUCTION UNIT IN KETTERING YEARS AGO, BUT WE USED TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, HUMANITARIAN PROJECTS WE USED TO DO THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
THAT'S SOMETHING WORTH LOOKING INTO.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THERE'S ANY TROMBETTA CONSTRUCTION LEFT AROUND HERE.
WELL, I HAVE SOME CREATIVE IDEAS THEY CAN WHEN, WHEN, UH, UH, CHAIRMAN LESLIE WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, COMPENSATING PARSLEY AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE W WE TALK AGAIN AND WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF AMVETS AND AMERICAN LEGIONS, AND MAYBE THEY MIGHT TAKE IT ON AS, OKAY.
IF A FAMILY BUYS ONE FOR 75 OFF, I'LL PAY THE 25, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT, AND THAT REQUIRES A COMMISSION COMMISSIONERS TO GO OUT AND, AND TASTE WHETHER THE MOOD OF THE CITY, WHEN I WENT OUR NATIONAL GUARD JENNER DENTED IT, IT WAS, UM, IT WAS A COMMUNITY PROJECT, BUT WE ALSO GOT GOOD PRESS OUT OF IT.
WELL, THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO YOU, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO PROMOTE THE MISSION OF THE COMMISSION AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
SO ARE YOU TAKING THAT ON, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED OUT HERE? NO, I, UH, I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH ON IT.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S ENGINEERING UNITS AND SENSI THERE'S ENGINEERING UNITS IN COLUMBUS.
UM, USUALLY WHEN THEY DO THEIR ANNUAL TRAININGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU REMEMBER THEY WOULD HAVE A PROJECT, BUT THEY DO THAT.
IF YOU KNOW WHAT THAT STUFF IS, YEARS LATER, LONG-TERM PLANNING.
SO THAT'S PLAYING YEARS IN ADVANCE, YOU KNOW, SO TO THROW OUR PROJECT ON THAT, THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T GET TO THAT TO LIKE 20, 26, 20, 27.
WELL, WHENEVER WE START THIS, UH, INTO DOING IT, WE'RE GOING TO BE SELLING BRICK FOR YEARS AND THEY AIN'T GOING TO BE SOMETHING DUMB TO BE OVER IN SIX MONTHS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S AN ISSUE WE DID, IT WAS BROUGHT UP AND IT WAS KIND OF GLOSSED OVER, YOU KNOW, DANA MENTIONED, SHOULD WE ALLOW FOR A SPONSORSHIP, LIKE PUT A SIGN UP BY A CERTAIN THING.
AND FRANKLY, I WAS AGAINST IT BECAUSE I DIDN'T LIKE, YOU KNOW, MY STEPFATHER FROM WORLD WAR TWO BEING NEXT TO THE THING THAT SAID EAT AT JOE'S.
AND SO WAS, I WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, NO, NO COMMERCIAL, BUT I DID KIND OF LIKE, I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT THIS WAY, BUT THE SPOUSES OF THE KIND OF LOVE THAT I DID KIND OF LIKE, HANG ON.
I DID KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA OF THE SPOUSES THAT ACTUALLY STOOD BY AND ALL THAT KIND OF THINGS THAT MIGHT BE, THEY MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE THAT TYPE OF, UH, WITH THE ONE I'M MOST FAMILIAR WITH.
THEY DON'T ALLOW COMMERCIAL PLACES TO HAVE BRICKS, BUT COMMERCIAL PEOPLE CAN PUT SOMETHING ON A BENCH AND YOU CAN DO IT WITHIN A, IT'S NOT AN ADVERTISEMENT.
IT IS DONE IN COORDINATION WITH COMMUNITY SPONSORS.
I'M JUST SAYING, I'M JUST SAYING, I WOULDN'T LIKE TO BRICK NEXT TO MY ALRIGHT.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S A GOOD SEGUE.
SO THAT COVERS, UM, NUMBER ONE NOW, AND IT KIND OF COVERS NUMBER THREE NOW, NUMBER TWO.
SO, YOU KNOW, RAY AND WHO YOU'VE KIND OF WENT INTO IT ALREADY.
UM, LIKE I SAID, YOU WEREN'T, YOU WEREN'T PRESENT.
HE WAS IN THE SUNSHINE, I'M JEALOUS, BUT, UH, BASICALLY THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT.
SO THAT WAS EVERYBODY'S HOMEWORK.
SO I GUESS WE'LL GO DOWN THE LINE AGAIN TO SEE, UM,
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YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ON WHAT WE THINK THE QUALIFICATIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE NECESSARY.IF SOMEONE'S A VETERAN, DO WE NEED TO SEE A DD TWO 14, UH, UM, UH, ARMY COMMENDATION, METAL AIR FORCE, COMMENDATION, MEDAL, ET CETERA, IS, IS THAT ENOUGH? AND THEN THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE EXCLUDE SPOUSES AND OTHER PEOPLE.
THIS IS JUST IDENTIFIED A METAL DOMAIN.
YOU'VE GOT AN HONORABLE DISCHARGE.
BUT GETTING THE DD TWO 14 IN TODAY'S AGE, WE HAD ABOUT A TWO YEAR MARK.
IT'S ABOUT 18 MONTHS FOR YOU TO GET A DD TWO 14, IF YOU DIDN'T FILE IT WITH THE COUNTY, WHEN YOU GOT OUT, WHEN YOU ETS, IF YOU DIDN'T FOLLOW WITH THE COUNTY, THEY'RE SO BACKED UP.
UH, ME AND RAY TALKED TO, UH, MONTGOMERY COUNTY, KIM FRISCO, AND SHE SAID THAT THEY'RE SO BACKED UP BECAUSE OF COVID OBVIOUSLY, BUT THEY WERE BACKED UP BEFORE COVID PRE COVID, BUT NEVERTHELESS, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS.
AND THESE QUALIFICATIONS, ARE THEY APPLYING TO JUST VETERANS? IF THAT'S THE CASE, THAT'S FINE.
BUT THEN WITH SPOUSES, OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS, HOW DO WE WANT TO, UM, CLASSIFY THAT? AND IF WE CAN'T COME TOGETHER ON THAT TONIGHT, IT'S ALREADY 6 42.
THEN OUR NEXT MEETING, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO HAVE A, A PROCESS ON IF SOMEONE WANTS TO PURCHASE A BREAK, WHAT THE QUALIFICATIONS ARE.
CAUSE I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WHO DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO A DD TWO 14, I MEAN, WE KNOW THAT, RIGHT? SO THAT, THAT IS WHY WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT OTHER WAYS FOR A BETTER IN PURCHASING OR A FAMILY MEMBER PURCHASING A BRICK FOR A BETTER DANA, WERE YOU GOING TO SAY SOMETHING? SO THIS SOUNDS LIKE I'M GOING TO GO LIKE BACKWARDS.
IS THERE A MISSION STATEMENT FOR THE PARK? LIKE, DO WE HAVE IN LANGUAGE, THE PARK IS MEANT TO DO THIS BECAUSE TO ME THAT WOULD BE WHAT GUIDES ARE YOU TALKING TO? I'M JUST FOR YOU.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, BUT FOR THE QUESTION COMES WHEN TO CATCH UP, BUT IS IT THE PARK OR IS THE MEMORIAL? I'M JUST GOING TO BE MUSIC SPECIFIC BECAUSE THERE IS A MISSION FOR THE PARK ITSELF, THE MEMORIAL ITSELF.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING THE MISSION STATEMENT FOR THE MEMORIAL, ET CETERA.
SO TO ME, IF YOU ESTABLISH WHAT THE MISSION IS FOR THE MEMORIAL, THE OTHER QUESTIONS BECOME ANSWERABLE BY DOES IT MEET THE MISSION AND IT MEETS THE MISSION? YES.
IF IT DOESN'T MEET THE MISSION.
AND I KNOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE A FUNNY WAY TO SAY IT, BUT IT'S STRATEGIC PLANNING.
THAT'S HOW WE DO ALL OF OUR MISSIONS IN THE AIR FORCE.
IT, WE CAN'T MAKE IT MEET THAT, THAT MISSION STATEMENT.
THEN WE HAVE TO QUESTION WHETHER IT'S AN APPROPRIATE LINE OF CONVERSATION FOR THAT.
SO I'M JUST THINKING MAYBE WE WALKED BACKWARDS A LITTLE BIT, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO CAN GET ONE, SINCE WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE COST AND EVERYTHING ANYWAY, START WITH WHY DOES THE PARKING SETS, BECAUSE THAT WILL BE PART OF WHAT WE PUT OUT TO SAY, THIS IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO BUY WORK FOR YOUR LOVED ONE.
AND THEN EVERYTHING, I, THAT MIGHT BE SIMPLE CLIMATE TOO MUCH, BUT IT JUST SEEMS TO ME HAVING THAT IN PLACE ALLOWS US TO USE THAT, TO ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS.
WELL, MY ONLY THING TO THAT IS, WELL, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK, I GUESS WE ALL WOULD HAVE TO LOOK BACK THROUGH.
UM, I WAS GOING THROUGH THIS FOLDER TODAY AND IT HAD, IT STILL HAD PICTURES OF THE MEMORIAL AND EVERYTHING.
SO I MAY HAVE SOME OF THAT, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE IS NO MISSION STATEMENT FOR THE MEMORIAL PARK.
SO, I MEAN, YOU ALREADY KIND OF KNEW THAT YOU KINDA KNEW THAT.
SO, UM, ARE YOU SAYING THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO COME UP WITH? WELL, I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO COME UP WITH.
AND IF THAT IS THE CASE, WHERE DO WE, WHERE DO WE BEGIN AND CONSTRUCTING, ARE WE, ARE WE GOING TO USE A TEMPLATE OF ANOTHER MEMORIAL PARK, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
AND I THINK IT'S, IT COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS JUST SITTING DOWN EVERYBODY TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT IT OVER THE NEXT, WHATEVER SENDS YOU, THEIR THOUGHTS ON THIS IS WHY WE'RE DOING THE PART TO HONOR THAT TOO, BECAUSE IF IT'S TO HONOR VETERANS, THEN THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION ABOUT FAMILY MEMBERS.
IF IT'S TO HONOR, HONOR CONTRIBUTIONS MADE IN THE DEFENSE OF OUR UNITED STATES, WHATEVER, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ANSWER.
UM, AND AGAIN, I ALSO THINK ABOUT CONTINUITY.
IF FOR SOME REASON, ALL OF US DECIDED TO QUIT AND LEFT JUST MIKE,
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SOMETIMES I THINK HE'D BE.UM, BUT THAT WOULD GIVE THEM A LEGACY TO LOOK OUT, TO GO OUT.
THIS IS HOW THEY MADE THE DECISIONS GOING FORWARD.
IF NOT, IT'S KIND OF CREATING IT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WELL, I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS SMALL UNIT TACTICS, NOT MAJOR STRATEGIES.
WE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THIS, THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR THE PAST 10 MINUTES HAVE TO DO WITH ITEMIZED PROCESSES THAT ARE SUBSETS OF ANY MISSION STATEMENT OR ANY ACTION.
SO WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GO DOWN THE LINE AS BY QUALIFICATIONS? WELL, I WASN'T UNTIL, UNTIL MISS DANA BROUGHT UP HER INFORMATION.
SO I AM LOOKING AT OUR, OUR PROGRAM AND IT SAYS HERE WAS INSPIRED BY A GRASSROOTS COMMUNITY INITIATIVE, THE HUBER HEIGHTS, VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK AT THOMAS, A CLOUD MEMORIAL PARK, HONORS THE SERVICE AND SACRIFICE OF VETERANS OF ALL AGES AND HEIRS SIX PILLARS REPRESENTING EACH OF THE SERVICE BRANCHES RING, A WALKING PATH, EACH HOSTING THE FLAG OF EACH OF THE SIX SERVICE BRANCHES AND STAND CENTURY AROUND THE NATION'S FLAG BEGINNING AND ENDING THE DISPLAY, OUR FLAGS RECOGNIZING VETERANS.
AND POW'S THE PARK IS A LIVING TESTAMENT OF OUR CITY'S APPRECIATION AND GRATITUDE TO OUR VETERAN MEN, WOMEN, AND FAMILIES WHO CAN BE HONORED WITH MEMORIAL BRICKS IN THE FUTURE.
SO WE KINDA ALREADY COVERED IT.
SO I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.
AND I JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE THIS IN MY FOLDER.
SO DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A MISSION STATEMENT TO YOU, MS. DANA, YOU WROTE IT.
WHAT ARE YOU THEN YOU'D KNOW HOW CONFUSED SOMEBODY OUT.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT IT DOES DEFINITELY.
I DEFINITELY DO THINK WE CONDENSED THAT SOMEWHAT AND MAKE A MISSION STATEMENT OUT OF IT.
THE QUESTION IS, DO WE KEEP IT TO THE OLD, THE UPPER PART, WHICH WAS VERY VENTRA VETERAN'S CENTRIC AND SAID IF HONORED VETERANS, VOLUNTEERS, OR DID WE GO DOWN TO THE BOTTOM TO THE FAMILIES TIP? CAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY BEING THE ONLY BETWEEN THE TWO THAT COULD ANSWER THAT.
NUMBER ONE, YOU KNOW, THE FAMILIES ARE IN FACT DID SERVE.
AND NUMBER TWO, IF BY MISTAKE, CAPPER, NO CAP, WE WIND UP MAKING A PROFIT ON THIS THAT WILL SERVE SOME OF THE SUBSEQUENT PROJECTS HAVING TO DO WITH THE MEMORIAL.
SO I WILL TAKE THAT AND MAYBE PLAY WITH IT AND SEND IT OUT AS A PERFECT.
SO HAVING SAID THAT IT WASN'T DUE TO CALL IT.
SO WHAT, SO WHAT, WHAT WERE THE WAY AHEAD IS DANA'S GONNA, UM, MASSAGE THIS INFORMATION AND YOU CAN SEND IT TO ME AND I CAN SEND IT OUT OR YOU COULD SEND IT TO ALL OF US AND THEN WE WILL REVIEW IT, PROVIDE INPUT, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
UH, I DON'T, YOU, YOU LEFT FAMILIES OUT.
I THINK FAMILIES NEED TO BE IN THERE.
AND THEN THAT WAY, WHEN WE COME AND MEET AT OUR NEXT MEETING, THEN WE CAN HAVE THE GO DOWN THE LINE WITH THE QUALIFICATIONS.
DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A PLANE? EVERYBODY GOOD.
SO, OH, BUSINESS, AS FAR AS THE, UM, MIKE IS GONNA, UH, LOOK INTO THOSE THINGS WE ALREADY DISCUSSED, HE HAS A PRICE CAP NOW.
TWO 50, YOU KNOW, HUBER HEIGHTS.
NOW, IF WE WAS IN LIKE, UM, CAT CADBURY OR OH, WOW.
SO THE NEXT ITEM IS NEW BUSINESS AND ONLY THING, UH, WELL, NOT THE ONLY THING, BUT AS FAR AS OUR MEMORIAL DAY CEREMONY PLAN, UH, ME AND RAY HAD SOME INTENSE DISCUSSIONS AND I DID SUBMIT FOR THE MIAMI VALLEY YOUNG RINGS TO SUPPORT US AS THEY ALWAYS SO HONORABLY DO.
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I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROVED YET, BUT I DID SEND THE MEMO.UM, THE OTHER THING ABOUT THAT IS, UH, I REACHED OUT TO SOME OF OUR, UH, COMMISSIONER PERSONNEL AND THEY TOLD ME THAT, UM, THAT'S BASICALLY OUR EVENT.
SO HOWEVER, HOWEVER WE WANT TO DO IT, WE WANT TO CONTINUE, UM, IN THE SAME VEIN THAT WE HAVE WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR AND HAVING A GUEST VIP SPEAKER, UH, VETERAN OR CURRENT ACTIVE MILITARY, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE AND OUR REGULAR PROCEDURES, WE CAN DO THAT.
SO JUST TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY TO, UM, THINK ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN THE LAST THING WE HAVE, WELL, I WON'T SAY THE LAST, IF ANYBODY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, UM, WE'LL LET RAY TALK ABOUT THE MARROW PROCLAMATION FOR TWO LOCAL WORLD WAR TWO VETERANS AND THE WORK THAT, UM, HIM AND HIS, HIS TEAM HAS BEEN DOING.
AND THEN IF WE HAVE ANYTHING AFTER THAT, ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS, YOU CAN BRING IT UP AT THAT TIME.
WELL, UM, BECAUSE OF, UH, NANCY SUGGESTING WHETHER TO CONTACT A COUPLE OF LOCAL VETERANS WHO ARE OF ADVANCED AGE, UH, WITH THE IDEA OF, UH, GIVING ME A DOUBLE TAP ON A PROCLAMATION, ONE, ONE, UH, PLAQUE AND RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION AND ONE FROM THE CITY ITSELF IN TERMS OF A CITY PROCLAMATION.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, UH, COMMISSIONER WINDSOR CONTACTED ONE OF THEM WHO WAS ADAMANTLY REFUSED TO EVEN BASICALLY THREW THEM OUT THE WINDOW.
I'M FRIGGING THAT HE'S GOING TO JUMP ON IT.
I THINK HE JUMPED AT THE OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN HE FLAT OUT TOLD ME LIKE, NOPE, I'M LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS FOR THIS.
AND THEN FOR THAT, WE WANT TO ARGUE, I'M A VETERAN.
AND, AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND WE TALKED ABOUT MILITARY STUFF AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF, BUT HE STILL DID.
I MEAN, IT WAS ALL OVER WITH, HE WAS LIKE, WELL, UH, THANKS FOR TALKING TO ME.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? HE WAS LIKE, BUT, UH, AT 95 OR 96 YEARS OLD, HE'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'VE DONE SO MANY OF THESE THEN IT'S DIFFERENT THAN BEFORE.
AND NOT, I'M JUST NOT INTERESTED, YOU KNOW? AND HE SAID, BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU.
YEAH, NO COMMISSIONER, HIS VAN TOOK CARE OF THE OTHER GUY.
AND AGAIN, WITH RESISTANCE AND REFUSAL, YOU WANT TO REMARK ON THAT.
IN, UM, FIRST OF ALL, BECAUSE THAT WAS AN AIR FORCE, MEDICS, WHEN RAY USED THE TERM DOUBLE TAP, THAT REALLY CONFUSED ME.
I FUCKED HER PROVIDING TO OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT TO SAY YES, TH THAT RICHARD WEST AND HE WAS A VER HE, UH, WE CONTACTED, OR I TRIED TO GET A HOLD OF HIM BY TELEPHONE, BUT THIS PAST SUNDAY AFTERNOON, HE FINALLY CALLED ME BACK.
AND, UM, I ASKED HIM, I TOLD HIM THE REASON FOR THE PHONE CALL AND HOW HE, UH, AND THAT'S ALL MY WAS A MEMBER OF THIS COMMISSION.
AND WE WERE THINKING OF MAYBE PRESENTING HIM WITH A PLAQUE BECAUSE OF HIS SERVICE IN WORLD WAR TWO.
AND THEN ALSO, MAYBE THE CITY COUNCIL MIGHT UP AND PRESENT HIM WITH SOMETHING.
AND HE SAID, JUST HIS FIRST WORDS TO ME.
WELL, WHEN I SAW HIM ABOUT WHICH I FORGOT WORLD WAR TWO, AND HE SAYS, I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE ANYTHING YOU SAID THERE WAS NOBODY SHOOTING AT ME.
AND I WOULDN'T SHOOT ANYBODY THERE BESIDES THAT.
I NEVER, NEVER MADE IT OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE UNITED STATES.
HE SAID HE WAS JUST IN FOR ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HE DIDN'T GIVE ME A NUMBER OF MONTHS.
HE SAID, AFTER BASIC TRAINING, HE WENT TO COLORADO AND THAT HE WAS DONE.
THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE HIM A PILOT.
SO HE SAYS ABOUT THAT THREE WEEKS LATER, THEY SAID, WELL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE NEW PATH ANYMORE BECAUSE HE HAD THE WAR IN EUROPE IS WINDING DOWN AND A LOT OF PILOTS ARE COMING BACK TO AMERICA.
SO THAT THEN HE TOLD ME NEXT IS FROM A GROWER, THAT BUILDING, BECAUSE THEY NEED THESE GUTTERS.
WE WANT TO TEACH YOU HOW TO SHOOT OFF WITH B 29.
SO I SAID, SO YOU WANT TO RUN THAT BUILDING THE LAST FEW WEEKS LATER, THEY SAID, NO, THEY DROPPED THE BOMB.
THEN THEY'RE GOING TO DROP A SECOND BOMB.
SO HERE'S YOUR PAPERWORK GO HOME.
BUT HE SAID THAT HE REALLY DIDN'T DO MUCH.
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HE SAID HE WAS HONORED THAT THEY BE RECOGNIZED, YOU KNOW, VERBALLY.TONY SAID, I MEAN, THIS MAN WAS 95 YEARS OLD.
HE TALKED ABOUT MORE ABOUT HIS 96 YEAR OLD WIFE THAT SHE KNOW CAUSE SHE, SHE COULD BE OUTSIDE CUTTING GRASS.
AND SO THAT WAS WHAT MOST OF THE CONVERSATION WAS ABOUT HE AND HIS WIFE.
THEY MET IN SECOND GRADE OVER WHERE THE PENCIL SHEPHERD WAS.
AND SHE SAID, YOU REMEMBER THAT? NOT YOU TALKING ABOUT PENCIL SHARPENER IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM.
REMEMBER THAT? SO HE SAID, NO.
AND AS I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT, EVEN THOUGH THESE TWO, UH, GENTLEMEN DECLINED THAT IT'S A NICE IDEA.
PERHAPS WE CAN USE IT LATER FOR ABSOLUTELY.
I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR MAKING THE EFFORT TO DO THAT.
I KNOW MR. WETS, EVEN THOUGH HE FEELS LIKE HE HADN'T DONE ANYTHING, I THINK ANYBODY THAT'S SERVED HAS DONE SOMETHING.
UM, AND HE IS VERY ACTIVE IN THE SENIOR CENTER CELL.
SO, AND THEN THE OTHER GENTLEMEN, THEY JUST, I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THE ARTICLE, UH, TWO SUNDAYS AGO.
I THINK THEY DID A REALLY BIG SPREAD ON HIM AND THE DAYTON DAILY NEWS.
IT WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE, BUT I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
IT'S UH, SHOULDN'T BE SO HARD TO FIND A WORLD WAR II VETERANS.
I MEAN, WITH ALL THE BSOS WE HAVE AROUND HERE AND EVERYTHING, BUT I ENCOURAGE ANYBODY THAT KNOWS OF ANY VETERANS TO, TO APPROACH THEM BECAUSE THE CITY WOULD LOVE TO HONOR THEM.
AND I KNOW THIS GROUP WOULD LOVE TO HONOR THEM.
WE WANT THEM TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THEM.
WAS THERE ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT? ALL RIGHT.
ON THE LAST TIME A THE MINUTES, ACTUALLY IT SAYS ITEMS, NOT THE AGENDA.
I WOULD LIKE TO REMARK THAT I HANDED OUT A CRITERIA FOR SUBMISSION TO THE NEWSLETTER.
THE NEWSLETTER IS DUE IN FIVE DAYS FOR THE PAST THREE MONTHS.
I HAVEN'T HAD ONE SINGLE SUBMISSION BY ANY COMMISSIONER FOR ANY ITEM FOR THE NEWSLETTER.
THAT'S THE END OF MY STATEMENT.
UM, IF YOU KNOW OF ANY VETERAN EVENTS, LEE'S EVENTS JUST HAVE TO BE IN HUBER HEIGHTS OR CAN THEY BE IN TROY? CAN THEY BE IN OUTSIDE THE COUNTY? IT COULD BE ANY ITEM OF VALUE TO VETERANS.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN EVENT PER SE.
IT COULD BE, UH, SAYING THAT FOR EXAMPLE, A FLEMING'S PLUMBING, STEAK RESTAURANT HAS GIVEN A 50% DISCOUNT TO VETERANS AT ANYTHING OF, UH, PAID DRYER.
HOW MANY DAYS YOU GOT $5? COULD YOU TELL THE NEXT COUPLE OF ? OKAY.
NOW REMEMBER IT'S A QUARTERLY NEWSLETTER.
THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN LIKE FIRST OR SECOND DAY OF APRIL.
IT'S COMING DOWN TO THE AIR FORCE MUSEUM.
UH, ACTUALLY GOT IT RIGHT HERE.
AUGUST SEVENTEENS, 17, AUGUST 21 AUGUST.
YOU GOT SOME, UH, UH, CITATION ON THAT.
YOU KNOW, AN ARTICLE SOMETIMES IT SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR EMAIL HIM FROM THE, UH, THE GROUP THAT IS CALLED THE AMERICAN VETERANS TRAVELING.
DOES THAT SOUND, WE CAN LOOK UP ONLINE OR OKAY.
AND YOU GIVE ME THE, YOU KNOW, THE URL FOR IT OR SOMETHING.
WHAT'S HE SAYING AMERICA? MONTGOMERY COUNTY VETERANS MEMORIAL SITE.
BUT WHAT DID YOU SAY? AMERICAN VETERANS TRAVELING TRIBUTE.
SO IF THAT IS IT, EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO HAVE SIDEBARS AFTER
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THE MEETING IS ADJOURN BEFORE THE PURPOSES OF WHAT WE CAME TO DO HERE TODAY.THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING.
THANK YOU FOR OUR VOLUNTEERS AND OUR COMMISSIONER AND WE ARE DONE.