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OKAY.

THIS MEETING OF THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZEN

[ AGENDA CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road March 3, 2022 7:00 P.M. ]

ACTION COMMISSION IS CALLED TO ORDER.

KATIE CAN NOT PLEASE HAVE OUR RODEO ROLL CALL.

DR.

AKINS PRESENT MS. NEWBIE, MS. PARIS PRESENT MR. RICHARDSON, PRESENT MR. STEPHENS AND STEPHENS PRESENT.

PRESENT.

DID YOU SAY, DID YOU SIGN THIS ONLINE? SORRY.

AND THANK YOU.

WE'LL MOVE FORWARD TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

UH, HAS EVERYONE READ THE MINUTES FROM OUR FEBRUARY 3RD MEETING? ARE THERE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE MINUTES? MADAM CHAIR? I HAVE ONE AMENDMENT.

YES.

SO ON PAGE FOUR, IT'S GOING TO BE, I WOULD SAY THE EIGHTH LINE FROM THE BOTTOM WHERE IT SAYS THE JOINT FORUM.

THAT SHOULD BE THE ONE FORUM, WHICH IS THE RACISM AS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.

NUMBER TWO.

OKAY.

DID WE CAPTURE THAT? YES.

YES.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL TAKE A, UM, WE'LL VOTE ON APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AND DEAN THE REFLECTION OF THE UPDATE OR THE AMENDMENT TO THE MINUTES.

ALL APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL.

I USUALLY DO A ABOUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

OKAY.

I MOVE THEIR MOVEMENT.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES WITH THE ONE AMENDMENT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, RECEIVE AND ADOPT THE MINUTES AS READ WITH ANY NECESSARY CORRECTIONS.

OKAY.

IT HAS BEEN PROPERLY MOVED.

AND SECOND WITH APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES WITH THE AMENDMENT AS NOTED, MOVE FORWARD TO COMMITTEE REPORTS, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH ADVOCACY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO ADVOCACY MET ON FEBRUARY THE 23RD AND AT OUR MEETING, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT OUR HEALTHCARE INITIATIVE FOR 2022.

UM, AND WE CAME UP WITH A VISION, UM, FOR OUR INITIATIVE, WHICH I HOPE THAT TARA HAS, BECAUSE I DID NOT BRING THOSE NOTES TONIGHT.

YOU HAVE DONE.

I POSSIBLY CAN.

SO I, I BELIEVE IT WAS TO EDUCATE AND ADVOCATE TO CITY LEADERSHIP AND THE COMMUNITY REGARDING THE HEALTH INEQUITY IN THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS.

THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR OVERALL VISION.

UM, THAT'S PRETTY ACCURATE.

YEAH.

UH, EDUCATION AND AWARENESS TO CITY LEADERS AND GREATER COMMUNITY TO BRING EDUCATION AND AWARENESS.

OKAY.

SO UNDER THAT, WE ARE GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON THREE KEY INITIATIVES.

SO ONE OF THOSE INITIATIVES, WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING AND WE'VE STILL GOT TO COME UP WITH A NAME FOR IT.

BUT YOLANDA BROUGHT SOMETHING, UM, TO OUR COMMITTEE, UH, REGARDING THE COST OF POVERTY FOR A DAY, BUT WE WANT TO FOCUS IT MORE ON HEALTH CARE AND, UM, HOW POVERTY AFFECTS HEALTHCARE BECAUSE THAT'S OUR INITIATIVE.

SO WE WANT TO, IN ESSENCE, HAVE PEOPLE COME IN TO HAVE DIFFERENT PROFILES.

UM, WE WOULD HAVE BOOTHS SET UP AND THEY WOULD IN ESSENCE, SEE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE POOR AND TRYING TO NAVIGATE THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM, TRYING TO NAVIGATE.

I THINK WE MENTIONED, UH, EDUCATION AS WELL.

UM, SO WE WANT TO, WE WANT PEOPLE TO EXPERIENCE POVERTY AND CNS SENSE WHAT THAT IS LIKE.

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UM, SO THAT IS STILL IN THE WORKS, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE WANT TO DO AS A PART OF OUR HEALTHCARE INITIATIVE FOR 2022.

UM, ALSO WE WANT TO ON OCTOBER 22ND, 2022, WHICH YOLANDA, I STILL CAN'T GET IN THE CALENDAR.

SO I NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHY I CAN'T GET INTO THE CALENDAR, MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY.

WE WANT TO HAVE A COMMUNITY HEALTH FAIR.

UM, WE WANT TO UTILIZE THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

UH, WE WANT TO DO HEALTH, HEALTH CHECKS, BLOOD PRESSURE CHECKS, UH, CHOLESTEROL CHECKS, A1C CHECKS.

UM, COVID-19 VACCINATIONS.

I'M JUST, I'M JUST KIDDING.

UM, BUT WE WANT TO HAVE, WE JUST WANT TO HAVE A, UM, A COMMUNITY HEALTH CLINIC AND RECOGNITION OF MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE OUR, I THINK THAT'LL BE OUR FOURTH QUARTER EVENT.

ALSO.

WE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY PARTNERING WITH, UH, THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE TO DO SOME TYPE OF A FORUM ON HEALTHCARE INEQUITY.

UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING JEAN JEAN GIVEN ME THE SIGN SINAI, PLEASE.

WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE TO DO SOME TYPE OF EDUCATION ON HEALTHCARE AND EQUITY, JUST STRICTLY FOCUSED ON HEALTHCARE AND EQUITY.

UM, HEALTHCARE DISPARITIES RESOURCES.

WE JUST WANT TO GET SOME HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS TO TALK TO OUR CITY LEADERSHIP IN OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW TO NAVIGATE THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.

WHAT MAY BE RESOURCES, LACK OF RESOURCES, MAKE IT AN ISSUE, AND HOW MINORITIES NAVIGATE THE RESOURCES, GIVEN THE DISPARITIES THAT WE FACE.

OKAY, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HEARING IT.

SO THAT'S WHY I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT I UNDERSTAND WE JUST HAD OUR MEETING ON THE 23RD.

SO YEAH, SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO TALK TO THE EDUCATOR, TALK WITH THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE ABOUT.

UM, AND THEN I ALSO WROTE DOWN SOMETHING ABOUT OUR COMMUTE, A COMPLETE RESOURCE GUIDE.

SO WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A RESOURCE GUIDE THAT ONE OF OUR CITY COUNCIL CREATED, BUT WE WOULD LIKE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE RESOURCE GUY OR CITIZENS THAT THEY CAN USE.

THERE IS A RESOURCE GUIDE THAT THE COUNTY HAS.

SO INSTEAD OF RECREATING THE WHEEL, WE MAY ADD TO THAT RESOURCE GUY, UM, AS A PART OF OUR HEALTHCARE AND EQUITY INITIATIVE.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND ADVOCACY AT OUR LAST MEETING.

UH, WE ALSO DID ACKNOWLEDGE THE TWO YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF A MOD ARBERY'S DEATH, WHICH WAS FEBRUARY 23RD, 2022.

AND WE DID TALK ABOUT, UH, ONCE AGAIN, HAVING OUR SECOND ANNUAL BLACK LIVES RALLY IN MAY OF 2022, I THINK IT WAS MAY 25TH, 2022.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT DOING THAT AGAIN BECAUSE GOT A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THAT.

UM, SO THESE ARE SOME EVENTS THAT I DO NEED TO ADD TO THE CALENDAR.

LASTLY, WE TALKED ABOUT PARTNERING WITH THE OUTREACH COMMITTEE ON JULY 20TH TO DO A MINORITY HEALTH FAIR AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

UM, WHAT DID I SAY? JULY, JUNE 20TH.

YES.

MONDAY, JUNE 20TH AT THE HUBER HEIGHTS COMMUNITY CENTER, UM, TO DO A MINORITY HEALTH FAIR FROM NINE TO FIVE.

SO I HAVE SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO PREMIER, UM, TO DO THAT.

AND ACTUALLY I'VE SUBMITTED TWO REQUESTS.

I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK YET, BUT FINGERS CROSSED BY NEXT WEEK.

I'LL HEAR SOMETHING TO SOLIDIFY THOSE DATES AND THAT'S BASICALLY IT FOR ADVOCACY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MS. TOMLIN, ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO EDUCATION.

WELL, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

SO THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE WE MET RECENTLY ON TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 22ND FOR OUR MONTHLY STANDING MEETING.

AND DURING THAT MEETING, WE HAD DISCUSSED TWO ITEMS. THE FIRST OF COURSE WAS

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PREPARATION FOR OUR FORUM IN JUNE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ON RACISM IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS PART TWO.

AND AGAIN, THE FORUM WILL BE HELD ON THURSDAY, JUNE 23RD, FROM 6:30 PM UNTIL 8:30 PM AT THE KEEPER HEIGHTS COMMUNITY CENTER AND BETWEEN, UM, MYSELF AND THE OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF SECURING OUR PANEL THUS FAR.

WE HAVE ONE PERSON CONFIRMED THANKS TO DR.

AKINS, WHICH IS MR. RON JACKSON, WHO WORKS FOR THE NEW YORK LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY.

AND HE'S GOING TO FOCUS ON THE ECONOMIC EFFECTS THAT, UM, PEOPLE OF COLOR FACE IN TERMS OF RACISM.

WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO FOCUS ON THE AREAS OF PSYCHOLOGICAL AND SOCIAL EFFECTS AS WELL.

SO WE ARE REACHING OUT TO OTHER RESOURCES SUCH AS THE DAYTON CHAPTER OF NAACP AND ALSO TO DR.

NICOLE CARTER, WHO WAS A PREVIOUS PANELISTS THAT WE HAD FOR A VERY FIRST FORUM THAT WE HAD IN JULY.

OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE OUR PANEL FINALIZED BY THE END OF APRIL.

SO WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE THAT INFORMATION PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION, UM, AT OUR NEXT MEETING.

THE SECOND ITEM THAT WE DISCUSSED, WHICH WE BROUGHT FORTH TO THE COMMISSION DURING LAST MONTH'S MEETING WAS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS REGARDING THE PROCLAMATION THAT WAS SIGNED LAST APRIL, APRIL 1ST, 2021, TO BE EXACT THAT DECLARED RACISM AS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.

AND AGAIN, WE WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH CITY COUNCIL ON SIX MAIN AREAS THAT WERE EMPHASIZED IN THAT PROCLAMATION.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ACTION ITEMS PERTAINING TO THOSE SIX AREAS, ESPECIALLY THE LAST AREA THAT FOCUSES ON IMPLEMENTING A PROCESS WHERE THE CITY CAN ADDRESS ISSUES AND GRIEVANCES THAT MAY OCCUR IN THE CITY.

SO WE REALLY FEEL IS IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMISSION TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ONE-ON-ONE BECAUSE AGAIN, IT WILL BE A YEAR, YOU KNOW, NEXT MONTH THAT PROCLAMATION HAS BEEN FORCED, BUT NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.

SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO PRESS ON THAT, BUT THAT IS ALL THAT WAS DISCUSSED DURING THAT MEETING.

BUT AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE THE COMMISSION SUPPORT AS ALWAYS WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ENFORCE.

AND THAT IS ALL MADDEN CHAIR.

THANK YOU, MS. NEWBIE.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

UM, WE MAY ALSO WANT TO CONSIDER DOING A EDUCATION PIECE WITH CITY COUNCIL OR MORE OF A COMMUNITY BASED FORUM FOR CITY COUNCIL TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING AS A CITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ITEMS IN THE PROCLAMATION.

YES, I AGREE.

IN ADDITION TO US MEETING, UM, WHAT CITY COUNCIL AND WE DO, WE HAVE REQUESTED, UH, KATIE TOOK THAT REQUEST TO CITY COUNCIL AND IS WORKING THROUGH, UM, TONY TO GET SOMETHING SCHEDULED, TO DISCUSS THAT PROCLAMATION.

WE DO HAVE WHAT WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA LATER.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE CITIZEN REVIEW, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER ITEM THAT WE'VE KIND OF PUT AS A PRIORITY FIRST AND THEN ADDRESSING THE PROCLAMATION ISSUES.

BUT WE DEFINITELY HAVE THAT SUBMITTED THAT TO CITY COUNCIL, AND WE ARE AWAITING, UM, A MEETING DATE FOR THAT.

I HAVE REQUESTED THAT WE HAVE A SEPARATE MEETING SPECIFICALLY TO TALK ABOUT THE CCRB AND THE PROCLAMATION OUTSIDE OF JUST THE WORK SESSION, BECAUSE, UM, THIS IS AN IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION THAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE INCLUDED AS JUST ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM DURING THE WORK SESSION.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF KATIE, IF YOU HAVE ANY UPDATE ON THAT.

OKAY.

SO I WILL CONTINUE TO PRESS ON THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT TONY HAS TAKEN IT TO THE MAYOR

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AND THEY ARE JUST DECIDING ON WHEN THAT CAN HAPPEN.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MS. NEWBIE.

SURE.

AND THAT'S A DATE FOR HAVING THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, BE PUT BACK ON, HE PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE WORK SESSION.

I'M SORRY TO UNDERSTAND.

SO IF WE, UM, IN THE LAST MINUTE, THE LAST WORK SESSION, SINCE WE DID NOT, WE WERE NOT AWARE OF THAT WORK SESSION.

SO THE DAY BEFORE WE WERE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THAT WORK SESSION AND THAT WORK SESSION, THEY DISCUSSED THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'VE PUT FORWARD.

AND THEY ALSO DISCUSSED THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD FROM THAT MEETING.

THEY HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

I HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA LATER, WHICH I'M GOING TO DISCUSS, BUT THEY HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS TO THAT.

UM, SO WE HAVE REQUESTED IN OUR LAST MEETING, WE DISCUSSED REQUESTING FROM THEM A MEETING DATE FOR US TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IN RESPONSE TO THE PROCLAMATION.

SO THE CITY HAS PUT FORWARD HAS ANNOUNCED RACISM AS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS, BUT NOW THAT WE'VE PUT THE WORDS OUT, WHAT ARE OUR ACTIONS? SO WE REQUESTED A MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHAT THE CITY CAN DO, WHAT ACTIONS THE CITY CAN TAKE THAT ALIGN TO THAT PROCLAMATION.

OKAY.

SO THIS WILL BE AN EXCLUSIVE OR A SPECIAL MEETING JUST FOR THIS OR FOR CCR, BUT FOR, UM, FOR OUR COMMISSIONER TO DISCUSS THESE ISSUES.

YES.

THAT IS WHAT I HAVE REQUESTED FOR A SPECIFIC MEETING OUTSIDE OF JUST THE WORK SESSION THAT I'M SURE.

WOULD IT BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION? IS THAT WHAT IT WOULD BE? I'M NOT SURE KATIE, OR WOULD IT JUST BE A SPECIAL MEETING? YEAH, WE'LL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

YES.

IT WOULDN'T BE OPENING UP AND THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON.

RIGHT.

YOU'VE DONE THIS TYPE OF THING BEFORE WITH, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON, RIGHT.

TO HAVE THESE TYPES OF SPECIAL MEETINGS WITH SPECIAL MEETINGS BEFORE, BUT THEY MAY STILL WANT TO WORK SESSION OUT OF IT.

SO IT JUST WILL BE WHATEVER, I GUESS, WHATEVER THEY DECIDE TO PUT IT ON.

I MEAN, YOU'VE MADE THAT REQUEST.

I THINK THAT WAS IN YOUR LAST EMAIL.

YES.

YEAH.

WELL, WE REQUESTED THE MEETING IN OUR LAST AND I DIDN'T ASK FOR A SPECIAL MEETING.

I ASKED FOR THE WORK SESSION.

CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE THAT'S WHAT WAS DISCUSSED HERE.

BUT I THINK IN YOUR LAST EMAIL TO TONY, YOU HAD ASKED FOR A SPECIAL, SO, YEP.

AND THE LAST EMAIL I REQUESTED A SPECIAL MEETING BECAUSE SO MANY QUESTIONS CAME UP IN THE LAST WORK SESSION AND I HAVE NOT HEARD OF A DATE WHERE EITHER SESSION OR A SPECIAL MEETING.

OKAY.

DID WE VOTE ON THAT SPECIAL REQUEST AND WE VOTED TO HAVE A MEETING, A SPECIAL MEETING? NO, WE DID NOT.

I THINK, I THINK WE SHOULD.

OKAY.

JUST SO IT'S REFLECTED IN THE MINUTES.

OKAY.

WHERE DO YOU WANT TO PUT THE SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REQUEST A SPECIAL MEETING FOR CITY COUNCIL, UM, TO ADDRESS THE ITEMS. UM, AND THE PROCLAMATION IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND CCRB , WHAT IS IT? THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD, THE FENDER, ACTUALLY THE PROCLAMATION AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

OKAY.

AND ALL THE RECORD.

RIGHT.

BECAUSE IT WASN'T JUST THE CCRB, THERE WAS TWO.

RIGHT.

SO LET ME RETRY, LET ME GO BACK.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE, THAT CITIZEN, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT CITY COUNCIL HOLD A SPECIAL MEETING TO ADDRESS THE ITEMS THAT THE, UH, HUBER HEIGHTS CULTURE AND DIVERSITY COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED AND ALSO ITEMS FROM THE PROCLAMATION.

YES.

I THINK THAT COVERS EVERYTHING.

OKAY.

IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED.

AND SECOND, CAN WE TAKE A VOTE ON THAT? MS. NEWBIE, MS. PURVIS, MR. RICHARDSON, MR. STEVENS, MS. STEVENS.

I MISS SOMEONE I DR.

HIGGINS.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

NO OPPOSITION.

THANK YOU.

MISS SOMEONE.

OKAY.

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OKAY.

YES.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS SARAH STEVENS AND I'M THE REFORM COMMITTEE CHAIR.

AND, UH, SO OUR COMMITTEE, UH, WE HELD OUR MEETING, UM, ON 21 FEBRUARY.

UM, AND ALL THE AGENDA WE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT UNDER OUR OPENERS.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE CCRB, UH, RECOMMENDATION, UH, THAT WAS THAT WE SUBMITTED AND WAS PRESENTED AT THE LAST WORK.

UH, I'M SORRY, LAST CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION.

AND OBVIOUSLY WE WERE, WERE A BIT SURPRISED BY SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT, THAT WERE, UH, THAT CAME UP DURING THAT MEETING BECAUSE WE PROVIDED THE RECOMMENDATION AND, AND LAID OUT SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE PURPOSE AND THE GOALS OF WHAT THE CCRPI, UH, IS AND HOW IT NEEDS TO BE STRUCTURED.

RIGHT.

SO, UM, AND AS YOU KNOW, ALSO I SENT A FOLLOW ON A, UP EMAIL TO CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR, AND STAFF, UM, TO PROVIDE SOME OF THAT CLARIFICATION TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE.

UM, SO I DIDN'T SEE ANY RESPONSES, BUT IT'S GOOD THAT WE JUST, AS WE DISCUSSED, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE REQUESTING FOR A SPECIAL MEETING WITH, UM, UH, WITH CITY COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IT FURTHER.

UM, CAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE, WE WANT TO SEE THIS, THESE RECOMMENDS NOT JUST CCRB, BUT ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE LISTED, WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOME MOVEMENT ON IT.

CAUSE WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY MOVEMENT TO THIS, TO THIS POINT.

SO, UM, SO YEAH, THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH OUR DISCUSSION ON, ON THE CCRB.

AND THEN WE MOVED INTO ALSO UNDER OLD BUSINESS, WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE, THAT WE TABLED IT HAD TO DO WITH, UH, MENTAL HEALTH.

THE ONE HAD TO DO WITH MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS, ACCOMPANY, ACCOMPANYING, UH, POLICE OFFICERS DURING, UH, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN, UM, UH, MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS CALLS, IF YOU WILL.

SO WE DECIDED THAT BASICALLY WE SEND THAT, WE'RE GOING TO, UM, WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON LOOKING AT OTHER AREAS SURROUNDING MENTAL HEALTH, UM, YOU KNOW, COULD INVOLVE MAYBE SOME INCREASED TRAINING AND EDUCATION.

AND, UM, AND ALSO WE'VE REACHED OUT TO ACTUALLY, UM, ERIC HAS REACHED OUT TO NAMI, UH, AN ORGANIZATION THAT, UM, FOCUSES ON MENTAL HEALTH.

SO TRYING TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THEM TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT SOME OF THE ISSUES AND ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, WITH MENTAL HEALTH TO KIND OF HELP US AS WE'RE, UH, WORKING TO COME UP WITH, UM, HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT AREA.

UM, SO, SO MORE TO FOLLOW ON THAT.

UM, AND THEN WE, UH, WHEN WE GOT TO NEW BUSINESS, WE, WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT OUR GOALS FOR 2022.

AND SO WE'VE, UH, COME UP WITH ABOUT THREE GOALS AND THEY SORT OF TIE BACK TO WHAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT.

BUT, UM, SO ONE IS OBVIOUSLY YOU WANT TO SEE THE, UH, FOCUS ON SEEING THE CCRB BE PUT IN PLACE, RIGHT? SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS DONE.

AND THEN, UM, ITEM PER SE, UH, GOAL NUMBER TWO IS TO, UH, FOCUS ON MENTAL HEALTH AND, AND AS IT RELATES TO EDUCATION AND TRAINING AND, AND WHERE WE CAN, UM, WHERE WE CAN SEE SOME, SOME, UH, SOME STRIDES BEING MADE THERE.

AND THEN, UH, LASTLY, UM, UH, WHICH I THINK IS NOT THERE IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER.

RIGHT.

BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN OUR MINDS IS, UH, WE WANT TO FOCUS ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UM, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO THE YOUTH, RIGHT? SO WE HAD THE, UH, PUBLIC FORUM ON POLICING, UM, YOU KNOW, BACK IN JANUARY, UM, WE HAD FOLKS COME OUT, BUT, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY, IT WAS ONE, UH, I GUESS, YOUNG PERSON THAT DID COME OUT AND ASK SOME QUESTIONS, BUT WE WANT TO RESOLVE THE THREE.

I'M SORRY.

SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS PARTNER WITH THE EDUCATION OUTREACH COMMITTEE TO, WE LIKE TO PARTNER WITH THOSE FOLKS, RIGHT? YEAH, EXACTLY.

UM, TO BASICALLY HOLD, WE WANT TO HOLD A, ANOTHER FORUM LIKE THAT.

RIGHT.

BUT MAYBE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, WE WANT TO TARGET SPECIFICALLY, UH, THE HIGH SCHOOL OR MAYBE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WHERE WE HAVE MAYBE THE POLICE CHIEF, UH, OR MAYBE OTHER POLICE OFFICERS COME OUT AND ACTUALLY TALK TO THE TALK TO THE YOUTH AND THEY CAN ASK QUESTIONS, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO.

AND THEN WE WANT TO, AND THAT'S ONE EVENT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE HAVING UP TO MAYBE THREE EVENTS THIS YEAR.

RIGHT.

BUT, BUT REALLY FOCUSING ON AGAIN, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE, I KNOW I SAW SOMETHING WHERE I'M NOT SURE WHAT CITY OF DAYTON, BUT MAYBE SOME OTHERS

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WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POLICE OFFICERS GETTING TOGETHER WITH SOME OF THE YOUTH TO PLAY BASKETBALL.

RIGHT.

BUT JUST THINGS TO, TO WHERE WE CAN.

AND I KNOW THEY HAVE LIKE A NIGHT, I THINK THEY ALREADY HAVE A NIGHT OUT EVENT ONCE A YEAR.

AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER PROGRAM.

I FORGET THE NAME OF IT, BUT, BUT AGAIN, WANT TO HAVE AN INCREASED FOCUSED ON, UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS IT RELATES TO THE YOUTH IN PARTICULAR, UH, JUST BUILDING THAT RELATIONSHIP.

SO WE'RE GONNA, UM, KIND OF WORK TO COME UP WITH SOME, SOME IDEAS, BUT AGAIN, WE WANT TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OUTREACH, UH, UM, COMMITTEE, UH, COMMITTEE TO KIND OF HELP, UH, COME UP WITH, UH, THOSE, THOSE EVENTS AND IDEAS.

SO, AND WITH THAT, I AM FINISHED ON THIS.

YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ARE THERE IS A OFFICER AND HIS NAME IS SLIPPING MY MIND.

I THINK IN KATY, YOU MAY KNOW WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC, HE DOES COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, OFFICER LAMBERT.

YES.

SUPER NICE AND VERY, VERY ENGAGED, VERY HELPFUL.

WHAT'S HIS, WHAT'S HIS FIRST NAME? NORMALLY MAN.

LAMBERT LAMBERT.

NICK LAMBERT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I THINK, THANKS.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH.

HE WORKS IN THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS, SO HE'S HERE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GOOD STUFF.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WHAT IS, YOU MENTIONED THE MENTAL HEALTH PIECE AND YOU RESEND IT.

PART OF THAT.

UM, WHAT WE DECIDED WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT, UM, ACTUALLY KIND OF STEMMED FROM THE NAACP IN DOUBLE A'S NAACP EIGHT POINT INITIATIVE.

RIGHT.

I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY WERE ASKING, UM, VARIOUS CITIES, UH, IN THE DAYTON METRO AREA TO CONSIDER.

AND SO THAT WAS ONE THAT WE, WE DID LOOK AT.

UM, SO WE JUST DECIDED WE WANT TO GATHER SOME MORE DATA GATHERED, SOME MORE INFORMATION.

UM, AND THEN BEFORE WE COME BACK WITH SOME SORT OF RECOMMENDATION, IT'S STILL COULD MAYBE INCLUDE THAT OR MAYBE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

BUT I THINK WE JUST WANTED TO, AT LEAST AT THIS MOMENT, AT LEAST AT THIS POINT IN TIME, KIND OF HOLD OFF ON THAT YOU GUYS HAVE IN YOUR THOUGHTS.

I MEAN, ERIC OR TARA, IF YOU HAVE, DO YOU WANT TO SHARE ANYTHING ON IT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S KINDA WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE STAYING RIGHT NOW.

LET'S GET THROUGH SOME MORE HOMEWORK, UM, AND SEE HOW BEST TO ADDRESS, UM, THE NEEDS OF THOSE WITH MENTAL HEALTH, UM, CHALLENGES, I GUESS.

OKAY.

BECAUSE I THINK THE ORIGINAL WAS JUST A MATTER OF, COULD WE GET A, UH, SOME TYPE OF MENTAL HEALTH ASSISTANCE PERSON THAT GOES OUT ON CALLS, BUT I THINK THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN THAT.

OKAY.

SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY ONE OFFICER'S BEING TRAINED.

THAT'S ONE, TWO, WHAT ARE THE OTHER RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE THAT AN OFFICER COULD GET OR OTHER AGENCIES THAT CAN COME AND HELP? SO WHAT WE WANT TO TRY TO DO IS LET'S FIND OUT WHAT THE TRUE PICTURE IT IS.

AND THEN NOW WE CAN COME BACK AND PRESENT A GOOD RECOMMENDATION.

SO HOPEFULLY THERE'S NO HOLES BEING POINTED AND IT, HOPEFULLY THERE'S NO SHORTCOMINGS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONLY LETTERS FROM A TO Z.

SO WE WANT TO GIVE YOU A TO Z.

SO THERE'S NO QUESTIONS THAT WHERE YOU LEFT A LETTER OUT.

GOT IT.

GOOD.

THANK YOU, OUTREACH.

AND EVEN EVERYONE CAN EVEN TAKE THIS OFF FOR A MINUTE AND HOPEFULLY ERIC HASN'T BEEN EXPOSED TO ANYTHING BREATHING OVER HERE ON ME.

UM, THE OUTREACH COMMITTEE MET ON A TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 22ND.

UM, ALL MEMBERS WERE PRESENT.

UM, WE'RE, UH, MISS SOME, UM, LET'S SEE.

NOPE, JEAN WAS THERE.

I WAS THERE.

UM, SOMEONE WAS PRESENT AS WELL.

UM, WE LOST A MEMBER AND THAT'S GOING TO HURT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE HELP FROM A COUPLE OF FOLKS.

AND I THINK, UH, TARA HAS ALREADY AGREED TO PICK UP SOME OF THAT WEIGHT.

UM, TEACHING ME HOW TO USE GOOGLE DOCS, UH, WHEN WE HAVE, UM, ALL OF THE PEOPLE SIGN UP FOR THE CULTURE FESTIVAL, THAT INFORMATION WAS SENT OUT TO FOLKS THAT ASKING THEM TO RESPOND TO THAT GOOGLE DOCS, I'M GONNA NEED YOUR HELP.

AND, AND, UH, AND I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE DOING WHEN YOU WERE KIND OF COACHING ME THROUGH THAT, BUT UNBEKNOWNST TO YOURSELF, THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE BEING RECRUITED FOR.

UM, SO WE DISCUSSED THE A FATHER'S DAY FUNK FESTIVAL.

THE, UM, THE, THE COMMITTEE DECIDED THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THE EICHELBERGER, UH, ACTUALLY BY DEFAULT, UM, THE ROSE M E M I, WHATEVER THAT ORGANIZATION

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IS, UH, WE COULDN'T PULL THAT TOGETHER FOR, UH, MYRIAD REASONS, UH, THAT WE WON'T GO INTO HERE, BUT THE EICHELBERGER IS, UH, THE VENUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT FOR THAT, UH, FATHER'S DAY FUNK FESTIVAL, UM, IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THAT I'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO, UM, UH, ONE PERSON WHO HAS ACCESS TO BANDS AND, UM, IN, IN DAYTON AND CINCINNATI, AND HE'S PUTTING, HE'S TALKING TO SOME FOLKS TO DO A JAZZ.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY OLD PEOPLE JAZZ, BUT ART GROUP, UM, KIND OF OUR AGE DEMOGRAPHIC BOUNCING AROUND.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE A FATHER'S DAY, UH, JAZZ FESTIVAL KIND OF THING, GOING ON THAT NIGHT AT THE, UM, AT THE EICHELBERGER FROM FIVE TO 10.

SO WE ARE WAITING FOR, UH, CONTRACTS TO COME IN AND, UM, AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

SO WE'LL GET THOSE TO YOU, KATIE, AS SOON AS WE DO GET THEM SO WE CAN GET THEM, GET THOSE CONTRACTS REVIEWED BY THE, UH, THE, UH, LEGAL PERSON.

AND DIDN'T KNOW HIS NAME IS IN HERE SOMEWHERE AND IT ESCAPES ME RIGHT NOW.

OH, GERALD MCDONALD.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

SO HOPEFULLY HE'LL, HE'LL BE ABLE TO TURN THOSE AROUND, UM, AND GIVE US, UM, THE REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR REVIEW, UH, FOR THE, UH, BAND AS WELL AS THE CONTRACTS FOR LIGHT AND SOUND AND ALL OF THAT STUFF THAT THE BAND IS GOING TO NEED.

SO THE FATHER'S DAY FUNK FESTIVAL, WE WILL BE DOING THAT.

I HAVE A BURGER, UM, THAT WEEK, UH, AND RHONDA MENTIONED A HEALTH FAIR ON MONDAY AND TUESDAY, A FINANCIAL LITERACY.

UM, AND I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT, WHAT WE CALL IT.

IT'S BASICALLY A SEMINAR.

IF YOU WOULD, ON FINANCIAL LITERACY, WE GOT SOME FOLKS COME IN.

UH, RON JACKSON AGREED TO DO THAT AS WELL.

AND TALK ABOUT, UH, CREDIT HOME BUYING, UM, ESPECIALLY HERE IN HUBER HEIGHTS, UH, WILL'S LIFE INSURANCE, THAT SORT OF THING.

UM, BASICALLY FOCUSING ON, AGAIN, FINANCIAL LITERACY AND, UH, UH, ANOTHER YOUNG MAN BY THE NAME OF LAUREN.

I JUST TALKED TO HIM, UM, TO WHITE DEWBERRY AND I THINK YOU MIGHT KNOW HIM FROM PNC BANK.

UM, HE HAS AGREED TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT AS WELL.

AND, UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WHILE HE, HE NEEDS, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE NEED, THAT WE WANT TO COVER THAT NIGHT.

AND I GOT TO SEND THAT TO HIM TONIGHT.

HE CALLED ME AND I MISSED A CALL.

I WAS ON A, IN ANOTHER MEETING THIS AFTERNOON AND DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO CALL HIM BACK PRIOR TO THIS ONE, BUT HE HAS AGREED, UH, AT LEAST TENTATIVELY TO PARTICIPATE IN PNC BANK WITH THEM.

UM, UM, TUESDAY CENTER, IT WON'T BE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

THAT WAS THE INITIAL PLAN.

WE GOTTA FIND ANOTHER VENUE.

UH, THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS NOT AVAILABLE TUESDAY, SO WE MIGHT TAKE A LOOK AT ONE OF THE, EITHER JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL OR THE HIGH SCHOOL AND SEE IF WE CAN DO IT THERE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

MAYBE WE COULD ALSO USE ONE OF THE CHURCHES I'M SURE.

UH LET'S OKAY.

THAT MIGHT, THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA.

WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

WE WILL BE DOING A WHOLE LOT BY EMAIL IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

UM, WE LIKE TO GET ALL THIS STUFF SOLIDIFIED BY.

I WANT TO SAY BY THE END OF MARCH, UM, GET ALL THESE CONTRACTS REVIEWED SO WE CAN GO INTO AND GET RE GET OUT OF THAT, THAT PHASE OF THE PLANNING AND GO INTO A MORE IMPLEMENTATION.

UH, WE ALSO PLANTED ON A TIK TOK CHALLENGE THAT WEEK.

UM, WE HAVE SOME EXPERTS WORKING ON THAT MS. LEE STEVENS IS AGREED, OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, AND ZUORA JOHNSON WILL, UH, BE WORKING ON THE TICK TOCK CHALLENGE, WHATEVER THAT IS.

I HAVEN'T QUITE PUT MY HANDS AROUND WHAT THAT TICK TOCK CHALLENGE IS GOING TO BE, WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO NOT BE FUN.

UM, AND IN THE INTENT OF COURSE, IS TO, UH, RAISE, TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT CULTURE AND CULTURE ISSUES DURING THIS WEEK.

AND I THINK THAT'LL GET A LOT OF THE, THE FOLKS WHO ARE A LITTLE YOUNGER THAN ME, UM, A LITTLE YOUNGER TO BE INVOLVED IN, UH, TECH TECH CHALLENGES AND TICK TICK, TICK, TICK TOCK CHAT WITH US ALMOST A HUNDRED TIMES BEFORE I GO TO SLEEP.

SO, UM, ALL OF THOSE, THOSE, THOSE PRIZES WERE ALSO ALREADY INCLUDED IN A BUDGET THAT WE PRESENTED LAST MONTH.

UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE WAS THERE? OH, RACISM IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS ON A THURSDAY AND SATURDAY, THE CULTURE FESTIVAL A WEEK, LIKE I SAID, UM, WE'RE GONNA NEED SOME HELP.

AND, UH, VOLUNTEERS LIST IS ALREADY STARTED.

OF COURSE WE GOT ABOUT, WELL, WE HIT MAN.

UM, AND THEN I ADDED ABOUT SIX FOLKS OUT OF MY FAMILY WHO COMMITTED AND THEN, UH, MY NEIGHBORS, UM, COMMITTED ALSO TO WORKING ON THE, UM, WORKING DURING THE, UH, THE, THE CULTURE WEEKEND.

UH, I'M GOING TO ASK EVERYBODY ON THE COMMISSION TO GET AT LEAST TWO OTHER PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER OUTSIDE OF YOUR KIDS.

SO WE, WE FULLY EXPECT THEM TO HELP, BUT, UM, JUST

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TO, UH, BASICALLY, AND WE'LL HAVE MORE MEETINGS IN THE NEXT ONE, WE'RE GONNA BE DOING WORK SESSIONS, UM, IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS TO WORK OUT SOME OF THESE DETAILS.

UH, IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES.

UM, THE THING THAT I, THAT CONCERNS ME THE MOST RIGHT NOW, HONESTLY, IS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE PARTICIPANTS FOR THE CULTURE FESTIVAL, RIGHT.

AND, AND I THINK, UM, BEING ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION THAT'S COMING FROM THE GOOGLE DOC, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THAT THAT ENTAILS.

AND, UH, UH, WHAT'S HER NAME? I FORGOT HER NAME ALREADY.

MIA.

UM, HAD SHE TOLD ME THAT THERE WERE ABOUT FIVE OR SIX ALREADY SIGNED UP, SO I JUST NEED TO GET TO WHERE THAT EMAIL IS GOING CHANGE, THAT EMAIL ADDRESS TO MY EMAIL ADDRESS SO I CAN GET IT, GET THE INFORMATION AS THEY SIGN UP AND THEN HER LIST.

SO I CAN DO FOLLOW-UP PHONE CALLS TO THE PEOPLE WHO WE ARE EXPECTING TO PARTICIPATE IN A CULTURE FESTIVAL.

AND THIS IS ANOTHER PLACE WHERE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION CAN HELP IF YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE IN ORGANIZATIONS AND DO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, UH, CULTURAL DANCE, CULTURAL DISPLAYS.

IF THEY WANT TO SET UP A BOOTH TO SELL THINGS, WE NEED YOUR HELP AND SOLICITING THEM AND TO GET THEM TO THE CULTURE FESTIVAL OR GET THEM SIGNED UP FOR THE CULTURE FESTIVAL AND OUR, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY DO WE NEED? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

UM, I WOULD SAY AT LEAST MAYBE 10 OR 15, BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY, UM, WHAT, 12 TO SIX ON SATURDAY, THE 25TH WAS THAT RIGHT? UH, SATURDAY, THE, UH, JUNE 25TH, 12 O'CLOCK TO SIX O'CLOCK IS THE CULTURE FESTIVAL.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A GOOD SHOW WHEN WE, UH, ORDERED THE, UH, BAGS TO GIVE OUT TO THE KIDS.

WE'LL HAVE SOME STUFF FOR THE KIDS AND LITTLE STAMPS TO GO IN A LITTLE, THE PASSPORTS TO THEY'LL HAVE WHEN THEY GO AROUND TO EACH ONE OF THE BOOTHS AND, UM, LEARN, UH, WHATEVER THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND GROUPS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TEACH THEM ABOUT THEIR CULTURE.

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS CULTURE FESTIVAL.

WE WANT A WHOLE BUNCH OF CULTURES REPRESENTED.

SO AGAIN, IF YOU KNOW, FOLKS THAT WORK IN THAT SPACE, LET'S, LET'S, UH, LET'S POINT THEM TO THE WEBSITE AND WE'LL HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN THE COURSE OF THE NEXT MONTH.

SO WE CAN SOLIDIFY THAT LIST.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE.

THAT'S WHAT I CAN FIND ON.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR MEETING WAS THE PRESS ASSOCIATION.

AND, UM, KATIE, I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD REACH OUT TO JERRY FROM ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION TO SEE HER CONTACT PERSON FOR THE ASSOCIATION AND HOW, HOW ALL OF THAT, HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS FOR THEM.

CAUSE I KNOW THEY'VE GOT A PRETTY STREAMLINED PROCESS, UM, SO THAT WE CAN GET THOSE, GET ACCESS TO THOSE CONTACTS AS WE LOOK TO HAVE FOOD TRUCKS OR THE CULTURAL FESTIVAL.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I WILL DO THAT BECAUSE THEN THEY WON'T HAVE TO BE INSPECTED ALSO.

SO SHE SHOULD HAVE ALL THAT.

SHE'S I KNOW SHE'S GOT ALL OF THAT TOGETHER.

OKAY.

AND, AND SUNDAY AS WELL, WE'LL NEED A FEW FOOD TRUCKS FOR SUNDAY DURING THE JAZZ FESTIVAL, AS WELL AS THE FOLLOWING SATURDAY.

SO THE 19TH AND THEN THE 25TH RESPECTIVELY, IS THERE A SEPARATE SIGN UP FOR THAT ONE? THE JAZZ FESTIVAL IS WE'RE ADVERTISING THAT ALREADY.

ACTUALLY WE'VE SENT SOME STUFF OUT ON FACEBOOK.

AND AGAIN, WHEN YOU GET THAT INFORMATION, PLEASE SHARE IT.

I THINK WE HAVE IT ON KEY ADS ALREADY FROM FESTIVAL.

NO, CAUSE I NEED TO PUT EICHELBERGER.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO AS SOON AS WE GET THAT DONE, WE'LL GET THAT.

SO THEN LEGAL CAN APPROVE IT.

YEAH.

IF YOU WANT TO SEND IT TO ME AND THEN ONCE EVERYBODY'S DONE WITH LOOKING AT IT AN APPROVAL, I'LL GET IT TO JAMIE AS SARAH STILL OUT.

UM, HOW DO YOU KNOW THE CITY HAS EVER DONE A CALL FOR VENDORS FOR ANY OF OUR EVENTS? I DON'T KNOW.

A AND B MAY HAVE, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

I KNOW YOU WERE ON IT BEFORE AND THEY HAVE MADE, MAY HAVE DONE SOME THINGS LIKE THAT.

I CAN ASK JERRY THAT YOU OKAY.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US POSSIBLY GET MORE VENDORS.

IF WE DO A CALL FOR VENDORS, MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE FORMAL AND PUT IT OUT THERE.

WE MIGHT GET, SHE MAY HAVE A LIST OF RETURNERS.

YEAH.

SO KATIE, THEY HAVE TO BE INSPECTED IF THEY'RE NOT ALREADY, THE TRUCKS WILL HAVE TO BE INSPECTED TO THINK IT'S, IF IT'S OVER TWO FOOD TRUCKS, WHAT, UH, WHAT ARE THEY INSPECTING FOR? NOT LIKE STATE OF OHIO FOOD SAFETY.

NO.

LIKE OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT WILD AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING LIKE THINGS AREN'T LEAKING GAS, LIKE TO HAVE THAT MANY FOOD TRUCKS IN ONE PLACE.

SORRY.

THAT'S THE DAY OF THE EVENT.

OKAY.

UH, LIKE THEY WOULD COME OUT.

I'M ASSUMING YOU'D HAVE THEM COME OUT EARLY BEFORE THE FESTIVAL STARTS.

FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD COME OUT AND DO THEIR INSPECTIONS BEFORE, BECAUSE IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT HAS TO GET SOMETHING FIXED, IF THERE'S A LEAK, THEY COULD GET IT FIXED PRIOR TO.

SO IF IT'S MORE THAN TWO, THEY HAVE TO BE

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INSPECTED.

I BELIEVE THAT'S THE NUMBER.

OKAY.

SO WE WELL MORE THAN LIKE, WELL, WE HOPE THERE'S MORE THAN TWO.

WE WANT ABOUT 3000 PEOPLE THAT THE CULTURE FOR US.

SO WE WANT TO ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE TRUCKS.

SO, UM, I GUESS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE NEED, WE NEED CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS FOR BOOTS.

WE NEED PERFORMERS FOR STAGE AND WE NEED FOOD TRUCKS.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

AND THE F THE VENDOR FOOD TRUCK APPLICATION THAT WE HAVE NOW, IS THAT JUST FOR THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL OR DO WE HAVE A SEPARATE ONE FOR THE JUNE TEAM? WE DON'T HAVE A SEPARATE ONE FOR JUNE THE JUNETEENTH EVENT YET, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE SIMPLY INFORMATIVE FOR YOU FOLKS THAT YOU KNOW IT FROM THE FOOD ASPECT, HEY, WE NEED SOME FOOD TRUCKS HERE FOR THIS EVENT.

CAUSE THEY'RE COLUMBIA, A BUNCH OF PEOPLE, AT LEAST IN MY ESTIMATION, THE WAY MY BRAIN WORKS, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

OKAY.

I JUST WONDER, I DON'T KNOW, WHAT'S THE TARGET FOR FOOD FOR VENDORS FOR THE JUNE TEAM AND THAT THAT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE.

RIGHT? SO AGAIN, THE NUMBERS THAT I'M HEARING ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE, THAT EICHELBERGER HOLE IS LIKE, I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE OUT THERE WITH THAT MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE.

LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.

I THINK WHAT WAS ANOTHER, LIKE 2000, THEY SAID LIKE, THANK YOU SAID ABOUT 1500, CONSIDERING THE SEATING, THE GRASS, SEA AREAS AND ALL OF THAT.

OKAY.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN? I CAN SEE IT.

I CAN SEE IT.

CAUSE I MEAN, THEY HAD, HOW MANY HUNDRED DID THEY HAVE FOR THE CHRISTMAS CONCERT FOR AMB? I'M NOT SURE THERE WAS, I THINK THEY SAID ABOUT 400 JUST FOR THAT.

AND THEY WEREN'T EVEN USING ALL OF THE SPACE.

SO YES.

I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A BIG AREA.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL SEE HOW MUCH MARKETING WE CAN GET DONE.

OF COURSE, WITH THE CITY'S HELP.

UM, AND USING SOME, UTILIZING SOCIAL MEDIA AND NAMING THOSE THINGS.

UM, BUT THAT IS GOING TO DEPEND ON HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE GOING TO BE THERE AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET FOUR FOOD TRUCKS.

I THINK THAT'D BE SUFFICIENT.

IT'S REALLY A SHOT IN THE DARK, NEVER HAVING DONE THIS EVENT BEFORE.

RIGHT.

I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO UTILIZE JIRA.

I THINK JERRY IS A VALUABLE RESOURCE BECAUSE SHE USED TO BE ON AMB AND, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PLANNING FOR THE MIRACLE PLANNING FOR THE CHRISTMAS CONCERT.

AND I THINK IF WE COULD NOT REINVENT THE WHEEL, BUT REALLY TAP INTO SOME OF THOSE RESOURCES THEY USED AND DO A SPECIFIC CALL FOR, UM, IF WE COULD DO A CALL FOR VENDORS AND SPECIFIED THAT WE WANT CULTURAL VENDORS, UH, YOU KNOW, CULTURAL FOOD TRUCKS, I GUESS WE COULD DO ONE CALL FOR VENDORS.

AND THEN UNDER THAT WE COULD DO FOOD TRUCKS, UM, UH, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO, I DON'T THINK THEY CAN SELL THINGS THAT WE SAY THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT SELLING THEY'RE EXHIBITING.

RIGHT.

AND THAT THEY'RE TO MAKE A PROFIT.

WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT.

NO, I WAS, I WAS THINKING THEY WERE SELLING STUFF.

YEAH.

WHAT'S, WHAT'S WRONG WITH SELLING STUFF TO THAT? IS IT A LICENSE THEY NEED FOR, WELL, I KNOW THE CITY IN PAST, NOT ONLY IF THAT'S CHANGED, WE, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO CHARGE AS HAS THAT CHANGED THE EVENTS? NO, I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH JERRY.

I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S A CHARGE NOW FOR THE VENDORS TO COME, WE NEVER CHARGED.

UM, WE WEREN'T PLANNING ON CHARGING ANYONE, BUT THAT MIGHT BE ALREADY SET.

SO THERE MIGHT BE A CHARGE FOR VENDORS TO COME AS WELL AS FOOD TRUCKS, BUT, AND THEN THERE WAS, SO CAN YOU VERIFY IT? I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU.

OKAY.

EXACTLY DETERMINED TO, I GUESS HOW MANY FOOD TRUCKS WE COULD HAVE, HOW MANY VENDORS WE COULD HAVE, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY HAVEN'T LAID OUT.

SPACE-WISE THE SCHEMATICS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE, SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO REINVENT ANY OF THAT.

RIGHT.

HM.

SO FOOD TRUCKS HAVE TO PAY THE CITY TO BE PRESENT WITH, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST, CAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN IT.

SO I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH JERRY ON ALL THAT AND THE INDIVIDUAL VENDORS THAT ARE, THAT HAVE BOOTHS.

WE'RE CHECKING ON THAT AS WELL.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE, JUST SO YOU GUYS HAVE THE CORRECT INFORMATION YOU HAVE, CAN YOU LET US KNOW THAT ASAP? BECAUSE AS WE'VE BEEN PUBLICIZING IT PUBLICIZING NO FEE.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

IF YOU ARE OKAY, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE I'M LIKE YOU MENTIONED, DR.

AKINS, I THINK AT LEAST EIGHT,

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IS IT THAT MANY? I WAS TAKING SIX AND ALL THE EVEN NUMBERS.

THAT'S WHY, LIKE I SAID, LET ME CONFIRM A GERRY.

SHE'S BEEN THE ONE THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED IN ALL THAT.

SO I'LL JUST CONFIRM WITH HER.

OKAY.

BECAUSE THERE MAY NOT BE SOME OF THE VENDORS, LIKE FOR THE, LIKE THE, WHAT WAS IT? THE, UM, THE, UH, FARMER'S MARKET THAT THEY HAVE, WHAT THEY HAVE DURING THE SUMMERTIME OVER THERE BUYING, DO THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR, THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THE VENDOR STUFF.

SO I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE-CHECK WITH EVERYBODY.

SEE WHAT ALL HAS HAPPENED.

YEAH.

UM, BUT FOR THE BOOTS THEY DO FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET, YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH, NO SOMETHING NOMINAL WASN'T AT ALL A LOT.

OKAY.

SO WHO LET THEIR CELL MASS CAN MAKE, I WANT YOU TO PUT YOUR MASK BACK ON AND PLEASE KATIE, I'M SORRY.

ALSO ASKED IF, IF THEY DO.

SO IF THEY DO HAVE TO PAY A FEE, IT SEEMS LIKE I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS ON ANGIE, THERE WAS A PERCENTAGE OF PROFITS THAT WAS DONATED.

SO CAN YOU ASK ABOUT THAT AS WELL, PERCENTAGE OF THEIR SALES, IF THEY DID NOT, IF THEY DIDN'T PAY A FEE, THEY WOULD DONATE.

AND IT WAS A NOMINAL AMOUNT.

LIKE IT WASN'T AN UNREASONABLE AMOUNT, WHETHER THEY WOULD GIVE, UH, A GIFT BASKET, SOMETHING BE RAFFLED OR JUST, THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DID ONE YEAR.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I'LL CHECK WITH HER ON EVERYTHING.

LIKE I SAID, I THINK THEY'VE GOT IT PRETTY.

YEAH.

SO AS SOON AS YOU CAN JUST SHOOT ME SOME INFORMATION SO WE CAN ACT ON IT.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RETRACT SOME STUFF.

IF SO, AND YEAH, IT'S ONLY, IT'S ONLY FOUR, SIX PEOPLE SIGNED UP ALREADY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET THE MONEY FROM ERIC.

UM, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.

UM, THE OTHER AIR, WELL, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.

SO KATIE, PLEASE LET US KNOW AS SOON AS POSSIBLE FOR THAT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO FOR JUNETEENTH, WE'RE GOOD.

WE JUST HAVE THE BANDS AND YOU'RE WORKING ON THAT.

GOOD.

OKAY.

I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

IS THAT EVERYBODY? ALL RIGHT.

LET'S MOVE ON TO OLD BUSINESS.

UM, WE HAVE THE CITIZEN REVIEW REVIEW BOARD, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT.

UM, BUT I, I DO WANT TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT, I THINK THAT WE ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH THE WORK SESSION FROM CITY COUNCIL, WHERE THEY TALKED ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE PUT FORWARD.

UM, AND SPECIFICALLY I WAS REALLY TAKEN ABACK BY ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAD ABOUT THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE NAACP INITIATED THEIR EIGHT POINT, UM, THRUST IN JUNE OF 2020.

I BELIEVE IT WAS IN WHICH ALL CITIES WERE ASKED TO IMPLEMENT A CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.

SO I WAS VERY TAKEN ABACK AS TO WHY THIS SEEMED LIKE THIS WAS A NEW INITIATIVE, SOMETHING THAT HAD NEVER BEEN HEARD OF.

UM, THEREFORE IT ALSO TALKED ABOUT IT AT OUR EDUCATIONAL FORUM, THE PRESIDENT OF NAACP ABOUT THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD.

SO, UM, I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED.

WELL, I'M A LOT DISAPPOINTED BY THAT.

UM, ALSO WE HAVE SUBMITTED THIS, THE RECOMMENDATION AND IT'S SPECIFICALLY OUTLINED WHAT THE ASK IS.

I THINK IT HAD A LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE REQUIRED AS MANY QUESTIONS.

UM, BUT I WOULD ALSO BE VERY HAPPY IF OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS COULD COME TO OUR MEETINGS FOR CLARIFICATION, IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS ON THINGS.

UM, I HAVE ALSO, I'M REQUESTING FROM OUR CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF OUR PROCESS.

YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE HAD A PROCESS THAT WE VOTED ON, BUT AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, WHEN CITY COUNCIL HAS QUESTIONS OF US, I WOULD LIKE FOR OUR COMMISSION TO RECEIVE THOSE QUESTIONS IN WRITING KATIE, THAT IS MY, THAT IS THE ASK.

UM, SO THAT IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT THEY NEED FURTHER CLARIFICATION ON, AND THAT'S ALSO WRITTEN IN OUR PROCESS THAT THEY WOULD PUT THAT IN WRITING TO

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OUR COMMISSION AND TO ATTEND MEETINGS.

SO, UM, I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN MOVE ON THIS SOONER THAN LATER BECAUSE WE'VE LOST A LOT OF MOMENTUM.

OUR INITIAL RECOMMENDATIONS WERE PUT FORWARD IN FEBRUARY AND THE SECOND SET WERE PUT FORTH IN OF LAST YEAR.

UM, OUR COMMISSION HAS WORKED VERY HARD AND TIRELESSLY ON THESE THINGS AND ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT WE NEED SOME MOVEMENT FROM CITY COUNCIL.

DO WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED? KAY.

I KNOW WHEN WE SUBMITTED THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS BACK IN JULY, I GUESS, WELL, THE LAST SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS BACK IN JULY, AND I GUESS THEY WERE SENT TO TONY, I BELIEVE, AND OTHERS, DO WE KNOW WHAT WILL ACTUALLY HAPPENED? IT WAS SENT TO TONY AND TONY GOT WITH MAYOR AND COUNCIL MAYOR SETS THE AGENDA.

AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHERE THE DISCONNECT WAS, BUT THEY WERE WAITING TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

RIGHT.

I, THIS IS KIND OF INTERESTING THAT, YOU KNOW, JULY, RIGHT? SO WE'RE TALKING WELL OVER SIX MONTHS AGO THAT, UM, THAT IT FINALLY, YOU KNOW, IT FINALLY GOT AT LEAST DISCUSSED AT THE MEETING LAST MONTH.

BUT I GUESS WE JUST TO, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANT TO, UM, KNOW THAT THE, I GUESS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR, UM, I TAKING THIS SERIOUS, RIGHT.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THEY AGREED TO PUT THIS COMMISSION IN PLACE.

UM, AND WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK WITH PUT TOGETHER RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO WE WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO NOW AT LEAST ACT ON WHAT WE'VE SUBMITTED.

RIGHT.

WE WANT TO KNOW THAT, THAT AGAIN, THAT THEY'RE TAKING THIS SERIOUS CAUSE WE DO TICKETS SERIOUS.

AND SO WE KNOW THAT NOW THAT WE'VE GIVEN THE REC, WE GIVE THEM THE CITY RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY NOW HAVE TO ACT, RIGHT.

SO WE'RE JUST NOT SAYING THAT THERE'S SOME SORT OF STALL TACTICS THAT ARE HAPPENING HERE BY SAYING, WELL, WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.

I MEAN, AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS AGAIN AT LENGTH.

UM, I MEAN IT WAS EVEN BROUGHT UP EVEN BEFORE THAT LAST WORK SESSION.

I KNOW YOLANDA, SHE CAME TO WHAT, THE MONTH PRIOR, RIGHT.

TO, TO THE MEETING AND SPOKE ON CRP AND OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS AND ANSWERED QUESTIONS.

SO, UH, NOT SURE WHY, UH, THERE'S MORE QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S ALL AGAIN, IT'S SPELLED OUT.

AND WHAT WE'RE SAYING TO THE CITY IS, HEY, WE'VE GIVEN YOU AN OUTLINE.

UM, SO NOW GO OUT JUST LIKE WE DID, WE WENT OUT, UM, REACHED OUT, DID SOME RESEARCH, LOOKED AT CITY DATA AND LOOKED AT OTHER, UH, OTHER, UH, DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY AND PROCESSES THAT THEY PUT IN PLACE AGAIN, GIVEN ALL THAT DATA.

SO WHILE WE'RE ASKING THE CITY TO DO THE SAME THING IS TO GO OUT WELL, BASICALLY.

YEAH.

LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATION, LOOK AT THE DETAILS AND THEN COME UP WITH, UH, SOMETHING THAT, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, CAN MEET THE NEEDS OF YOUR PUPIL HEIGHTS.

SO, UM, BUT AGAIN, YEAH, WE JUST, WE WANT TO KNOW THAT, UH, THAT THE CITY IS SERIOUS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSING, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE, THAT WE, UM, THAT WE SUBMIT TO THEM TO ACT ON.

SO, SO WE ARE A RECOMMENDING COMMISSION.

WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL AND CITY COUNCIL ACTS ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS IN TERMS OF THE CCRB.

I KNOW THAT THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE THAT, WELL, WE'RE NOT THE CITY OF DAYTON, WHICH IS WHERE WE'VE BEEN BENCHMARKING A LOT.

AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE NOT THE CITY OF DAYTON.

HOWEVER, THERE'S ALWAYS BENEFIT IN BENCHMARKING OTHER CITIES AROUND US TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU KNOW, THEIR DEMOGRAPHICS ARE COMPLETELY THE SAME OR NOT.

UM, OUR CHALLENGES ARE THE SAME WHEN YOU LOOK AT ANY CITY.

SO IN THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, WE SHOULD ALWAYS BENCHMARK OTHER CITIES TO FIND OUT WHAT'S WORKING.

AND WHAT'S NOT.

I KNOW IN THE, UM, ALSO IN AS A FOLLOWUP TO THAT CCRB, UM, MR. STEVENS SENT AN EMAIL TO CITY COUNCIL JUST REINFORCING, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT HAD BEEN PUT FORTH.

HE ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT, UM, A LINK TO OTHER CITIES IN THEIR PROCESSES, NOT JUST THE CITY OF DAYTON, BUT CITIES OUTSIDE OF OHIO.

SO THERE IS LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITY TO LOOK AT OTHER CITIES TO SEE WHAT'S WORKING.

SO AS A COMMISSION, WHAT I DON'T EXPECT US TO DO IS TO DO ALL OF THE HEAVY LIFTING.

AND WE'RE DOING A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING.

IT TAKES THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR CITY TO MOVE FORWARD

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WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, OR WE CAN NOT MAKE PROGRESS.

AND AS THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMISSION, I CANNOT IDLY SIT BY AND SEE OUR COMMISSION WORK VERY HARD AND SPIN OUR WHEELS, NOT MOVING FORWARD.

WE HAVE DONE OUR PART.

NOW WE JUST NEED OUR LEADERSHIP TO DO THEIR PART.

AND I KNOW THAT, UM, THE HEART, WELL, I'M HOPING THAT THE HEART IS THERE TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.

UM, BUT I WANT TO SAY AGAIN THAT I DON'T WANT EVERYTHING TO BE PUSHED BACK TO THIS COMMISSION TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, TO DO IT.

WE'RE THERE.

WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE'VE DONE THE RESEARCH WE NEED ACTION.

I AM, UM, SENT IN TODAY ON A WORKSHOP CALLED GETTING TO THE ROOTS OF RACISM, UM, WHICH I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND TO EVERYBODY.

AND I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND IT TO OUR CITY COUNCIL AS WELL TO ATTEND.

THEY TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFIC ROOTS OF RACISM.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY BROUGHT UP IN THIS WORKSHOP IS TO ASK THE WHY, AND TO FOCUS ON THE SYSTEMS THAT ARE IN PLACE.

SO AS A COMMISSION, I REALLY WANT US TO HELP FOCUS ON THE SYSTEMS THAT ARE IN PLACE LIKE THE PROGRAMS THAT WE DO.

THEY ARE WONDERFUL, THE EDUCATION, IT IS WONDERFUL, BUT NOW WE NEED THAT NEXT STEP FOR OUR LEADERSHIP TO SAY, OKAY, I'M EDUCATED NOW.

I'M EDUCATED ON THE SYSTEM.

NOW WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP FOR OUR CITY TO DISMANTLE THESE SYSTEMS. SO WE'RE WORKING HARD, PROVIDING THE EDUCATION, WE'RE PROVIDING THE MOMENTUM, WE'RE PROVIDING THE, UM, ACCESS TO EXPERIENCING DIFFERENT CULTURES, PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.

BUT WE HAVE GOT TO MOVE BEYOND THAT.

OUR CITY HAS TO MOVE BEYOND THAT AND LOOK AT HOW WE CAN DISMANTLE SYSTEMS THAT ARE SUPPRESSING PEOPLE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND NOW MORE THAN EVER, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT OUR CITY DOES THAT OUR CITY LEADERSHIP DOES THAT BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD THE TALK ABOUT HOW OUR CITY IS GROWING.

WE'RE MORE DIVERSE.

OUR DIVERSITY IS CONTINUING TO GROW.

OKAY.

SO HOW ARE WE MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY? HOW ARE WE MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUR EXPANDING COMMUNITY? AND WE'VE GOT MORE DIVERSE POPULATIONS COMING IN.

WE HAVE TO BE STRATEGIC ABOUT THIS.

THE COMMISSION CAN'T DO THAT.

WE CAN ASSIST, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

IT TAKES CITY TOWNS TO DO THAT.

AND I JUST WANT US TO REMEMBER THAT BECAUSE WE GET THINGS PUSHED BACK ON US AND IT CAN FEEL TIRING.

I KNOW FOR ME, SOMETIMES IT FEELS TIRING.

UM, BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, WE ARE A RECOMMENDING COMMISSION.

WE'RE DOING OUR PART.

EVERYONE'S DOING A GREAT JOB ON THIS COMMISSION, BUT I DON'T WANT US TO WEAR OURSELVES OUT BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO THE HEAVY LIFTING.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M HOPING I AM VERY HOPEFUL THAT WE HAVE A MEETING SET IN A TIMELY MANNER BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT.

AND I RECOGNIZE WE HAVE A LOT OF IMPORTANT THINGS HAPPENING IN OUR CITY, BUT OUR RESIDENTS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT.

SO I'M HOPING THAT THIS TAKES PRIORITY AND WE CAN GET THAT MEETING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

SO THAT IS KIND OF GETS TO THE POINT A ON THE, THE FOLLOW-UP TIMELINES.

AND LET ME JUST OPEN THAT UP.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? I AGREE WITH YOU 100%, MADAM CHAIR, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING HAS TO FALL BACK ON CITY COUNCIL.

THEY AGREED TO THIS COMMISSION.

AND AS FAR AS OUR RESPONSIBILITY, WE ARE AN ADVISORY CAPACITY.

IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO MAKE ANY FINAL DECISIONS, THAT'S UP TO THEM.

SO WE HAVE TO ENFORCE THAT PERIOD.

AND THE ONLY THING I WANT TO ADD IS THE OPTICS FOR ME, LOOKS LIKE

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NOW THAT EVERYBODY HAS BEEN ELECTED, THE PRIORITIES HAVE SHIFTED.

UM, BEFORE THE ELECTION, WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE ATTENDING MEETINGS.

NOW NOBODY'S ATTENDED MEETINGS.

UM, THE OPTICS FOR ME IS WHEN WE HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT CERTAIN THINGS ARE NECESSARY IN 2022, GIVEN ALL THAT IS GOING ON IN, IN THE WORLD.

FOR ME, IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE YOU JUST DON'T GET IT, UM, OR THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO GET IT.

AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND TO PUT THE INFORMATION AT PEOPLE'S FINGERTIPS.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THAT SIT ON COMMITTEES BOARDS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT FOCUS ON DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION.

AND SOME OF THAT INFORMATION SHOULD BE COMING BACK TO THE CITY.

SO FOR ME, IT'S THE OPTICS.

IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

AND PIGGYBACKING OFF OF WHAT YOU'RE LYING TO SAY IT FOR ME, IT, IT, IT, FOR ME, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A SYSTEMIC ISSUE BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT CHANGE, AND ONCE YOU'VE BEEN PROVIDED WITH THE EDUCATION, YOU HAVE THE AWARENESS AND THE RESOURCES ARE THERE.

I'M NOT SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT ELSE IS NEEDED.

ACTUALLY LET ME BACK UP.

CAUSE I WANT THE MINUTES TO REFLECT WHAT I REALLY WANT TO SAY, NOT WHAT THE POLITICAL THING IS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE YOU WANT US TO DO OR SAY.

SO THAT'S ABOUT, WELL, LOOKING FORWARD TO, UM, US HAVING THIS MEETING WITH THE MAYOR OR CITY COUNCIL OR WHOEVER THAT IS, I THINK, UH, THIS WILL BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SET WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS COMMISSION WAS PUT TOGETHER, BUT WE NEVER HAD A MEETING WITH THEM TO CLARIFY WHAT WAS WRITTEN IN PAPER SO THAT BOTH SIDES UNDERSTOOD WHAT'S EXPECTED.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING THAT.

I THINK WE'VE GOT A GOOD EXAMPLE.

UH, OBVIOUSLY THE CRB, IN MY OPINION, SOMEWHERE TO WHEELS FELL OFF.

OKAY.

SO LET'S DISSECT THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.

LET'S FIND OUT WHERE THE WHEELS FELL OFF AT.

LET'S CORRECT THAT.

SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO DIFFERENTLY, LET US KNOW IF IT'S FROM CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR THAT NEEDS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE DIFFERENTLY.

LET'S ALL COME TO THE TABLE, YOU KNOW, TAKE OUR RESPONSIBILITY AND LET'S PUT SOMETHING FORWARD, PUT SOMETHING GOOD GOING FORWARD.

IF WE CAN'T COME UP WITH SOMETHING GOOD GOING FORWARD, THEN MAYBE THIS COMMISSION IS NOT THE RIGHT ANSWER.

UM, BECAUSE I'M FRUSTRATED WITH THE PROCESS.

I'M FRUSTRATED WITH INVESTING MY TIME AND MY ENERGY AND NOTHING'S COMING OUT OF THAT.

I DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THAT.

UM, I SIGNED UP TO HELP AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE IS WHAT I DID.

SO IF I CAN'T HELP AND I CAN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE, THEN THERE'S NO NEED FOR ME HERE.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

AND THERE'S ANOTHER THING THAT I WANT TO ADD MADAM CHAIR.

AND I KNOW I SHARED THIS WITH MOST OF YOU AND I'M JUST GOING TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT.

I HONESTLY FELT THAT THE CITY AGREED TO HAVE THIS COMMISSION BASED ON THE CLIMATE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY AT THAT TIME AFTER THE GEORGE FLOOD INCIDENT, I BELIEVE THEY AGREED TO THIS TO APPEASE US EMBARRASS NO SINCERITY.

AND BASED ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID, UM, GEORGIA JETSON, I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED, HONESTLY, ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT WE HAVE PUT IN WITH THESE FORUMS, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE THIS CITY MORE AWARE AND CONSCIOUS OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND TO SEE OUR LEADERSHIP HERE BASED ON WHAT MS. SOMEONE JUST MENTIONED ONLY WHEN THERE'S ELECTION TIME, THAT'S IT,

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PERIOD.

SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS COMMISSION SERIOUSLY.

AND I HATE TO SAY THIS, I DON'T WANT TO WASTE THEIR TIME.

THEY SHOULDN'T WASTE PERIOD.

YEAH, BECAUSE JUST TO ADD TO THAT, CAUSE IT'S, IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WALKING THE TALK, RIGHT.

WE CAN SIT HERE AND SAY, HEY, WE WANT A COMMISSION IN PLACE.

WE SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, BASICALLY A QUALITY AND READING RACISM, BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT YOUR ACTIONS AT THE END OF THE DAY.

RIGHT? UM, SO THAT'S THE THING, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU GOTTA BE ABLE TO WALK THE TALK, RIGHT? YOU GOTTA BE ABLE TO DELIVER, YOU HAVE TO DO THE WORK.

UM, BUT OUR JOB IS, LIKE I SAID, IS TO RECOMMEND, AND I THOUGHT WE, WE PUT TOGETHER A WELL THOUGHT OUT RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT.

AND THE REASON CAN'T BE, YOU KNOW, I, ONE OF THE COMMENTS, I THINK THAT MAYBE THE MAYOR MADE AT THE LAST MEETING, HEY, WELL, I'VE NEVER, WE'VE NEVER, UM, DONE ANY LEGISLATIVE WORK.

I THINK HE MADE SOME SORT OF COMMENT ABOUT LEGISLATIVE WORK.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS.

UM, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A TEAM, YOU HAVE A CITY COUNCIL, YOU HAVE A LAWYER, YOU HAVE FOLKS IN PLACE, YOU, YOU CAN GRAB THE RIGHT PEOPLE, YOU BRING THEM TOGETHER.

THAT CAN'T BE A REASON OR AN EXCUSE NOT TO, TO STEP OUT AND ACT.

RIGHT.

UM, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, THAT, THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE EXCUSES, BUT WE CAN'T USE THAT AS A REASON THAT, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE.

IT REQUIRES SOME LEGISLATIVE, RIGHT.

IT REQUIRES YOU TO DO WORK.

IT REQUIRES ACTION.

RIGHT.

WE'VE GIVEN YOU AN, A RECOMMENDATION.

NOW WE WANT YOU TO ACT, WE NEED TO, WE NEED SOMETHING DONE.

I THINK ALL THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE ON THIS AS WELL.

HE SAYS COMMISSION HAS BEEN DONE BY US.

RIGHT.

EVEN WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, SOME OF THE PROCLAMATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT OUT.

RIGHT.

I THINK WE WROTE IT.

RIGHT.

IT WASN'T WRITTEN BY THE CITY.

RIGHT.

UM, SO WE'VE DONE ALL THE WAY.

WE WANT TO ACTUALLY SEE THE CITY, DO SOME ACTUAL WORK, RIGHT.

TO SHOW THAT THEY'RE SERIOUS ABOUT ADDRESSING, YOU KNOW, RACISM, RIGHT.

AND ADDRESS INEQUALITY AND THE DIVERSITY.

RIGHT.

ONE TO SEE SOME ACTION.

RIGHT.

IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

AND SO, AND AGAIN, IN THIS CASE WHERE I WOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU SOME GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, WE WANT TO SEE SOME ACTION, RIGHT.

UH, IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.

IT'S ALL ABOUT ACTION.

NOT JUST TALK A GOOD GAME.

IT'S ABOUT WALKING TO THE GAME, DOING THE WORK TO SHOW THAT YOU'RE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF, UH, ADDRESSING THESE, UM, THESE ISSUES THAT, THAT WE'VE, UH, WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING.

SO, SO I HAVE TO SAY, WELL, I'M THE ONE THAT SEEMS TO BE THAT THE PRAGMATIC, WHAT IS THE MOST PRAGMATIC AND PRACTICAL OUT OF THIS GROUP FOR SOME STRANGE REASON? UM, I THINK, UM, IT MIGHT BE, AND I'M NOT MAKING EXCUSES FOR ANYBODY BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION, BUT THIS KIND OF CHANGE TAKES A PARADIGM SHIFT.

AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT A COMFORTABLE PLACE WHERE THAT SHIFT IS NOT NECESSARY OR MAY BE PERCEIVED AS NOT BEING NECESSARY.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

UM, AND IT MAKES, UNFORTUNATELY ALL OF THE PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE HAVE CREATED, NOT JUST A CALL TO ACTION AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, BUT IT MAKES IT A LIST OF PLATITUDES BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE AT LEAST TO US, THAT COUNCIL, UM, THEY'VE KIND OF LOOKED PAST IT BECAUSE WE'RE IN THAT COMFORTABLE PLACE NOW.

RIGHT.

SO, UM, AT LEAST FROM AN ORGANIZATIONAL CONTEXT, I THINK, UH, MAYBE HAVING THIS MEETING IS A GOOD THING.

UM, AND AT LEAST THEY CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE SMALLER THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT THERE MAY BE ISSUES AT LEAST TO SOME OF THE FORUMS THAT WE'VE HAD.

RIGHT.

UM, AND, AND I'VE SAT AND I'VE LISTENED TO SOME OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR SAY, WOW, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT.

OR, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

OR, UM, THIS HAD NEVER COME TO MY ATTENTION.

THOSE KINDS OF COMMENTS IN THOSE FORUMS, THOSE, THOSE, THOSE FOLKS WHO WE HAVE ELECTED TO PUT HERE MADE THOSE COMMENTS.

SO NOW IT'S TIME FOR US TO SAY, HEY, SINCE YOU DIDN'T KNOW, WE DON'T OPERATE UNDER THAT ASSUMPTION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE MAJORITY OF YOU SAID, COME TALK TO US.

SO WE CAN AT LEAST EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT WE SEE AND HOW WE PERCEIVE THOSE PROCLAMATIONS TO BE USEFUL IN THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS AND, UM, RECALLED, UH, UH, TO MEMORY OF A DOCUMENT THAT I SENT OUT THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME THAT BY DR.

MIKE DOOLIN, UM, SOME THINGS THAT MUNICIPALITIES COULD DO TO IMPROVE SOME OF THE RACE RELATIONS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE BIG THINGS, AT LEAST NOT TO START.

WE'RE NOT ASKING COUNCIL TO SOLVE ALL OF THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS. WE ARE ASKING THEM TO COME

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SEE WHAT THOSE PROBLEMS ARE SO THAT THEY CAN BE ADDRESSED SO THEY CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE ISSUES OF DIVERSITY OR THOSE ISSUES OF INEQUITY ARE AND HOW WE CAN KEEP THINGS FROM HAPPENING HERE IN HUBER HEIGHTS.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO WHEN I ASK THEM TO CHANGE THE WORLD.

WHEREAS SOME WOULD COME SEE WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE AT LEAST FROM OUR OLD LENS, SO THEY CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND IT SO THEY CAN PUT THINGS IN PLACE THAT ARE GOING TO KEEP THINGS FROM HAPPENING.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THIS, THAT'S WHAT THIS COMMISSION WAS PUT TOGETHER TO DO, AT LEAST IN MY ESTIMATION.

AND I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING, LIKE, UM, LIKE MISS, UH, SOMEONE SAID THE URGENCY IS NO LONGER THERE.

AND OUR FIRST FEW MEETINGS, WE HAD THREE, FOUR COUNCIL PEOPLE HERE, AND NOW THAT THE ELECTION IS OVER THERE, THERE ARE NONE.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.

YEAH.

I AGREE.

UM, AS A CITY, WE ARE IN A COMFORTABLE PLACE AND I'VE HEARD THE REMARK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE ISSUES THAT THE CITY OF DAYTON HAS, OR WE DON'T HAVE THE ISSUES OF OTHER, WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THOSE ISSUES, RIGHT? AND THIS COMMISSION WAS FORMED AS A PROACTIVE APPROACH TO NOT HAVING THOSE THINGS, TO NOT HAVING A REPEAT OF GEORGE VOID IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO WE DON'T WANT TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE'RE REACTIVE.

AND WE, NOW WE HAVE TO SCROUNGE TO DO SOME THINGS.

WE NEED TO HAVE SOME URGENCY AND BEING PROACTIVE TO KEEP THESE THINGS FROM HAPPENING IN THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE COMMENT OF, I DIDN'T KNOW, AND I'M GLAD THAT WE ARE ABLE TO HELP EXPAND THAT LENS.

BUT TO BE HONEST, IT SHOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN THIS COMMISSION FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

EVERY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, EVERY LEADER HAS CONSTITUENTS, RIGHT? WE HAVE RESIDENTS, YOU SHOULD BE IN TOUCH WITH YOUR RESIDENTS, WHITE, BLACK, BROWN, BLUE, YELLOW, WHATEVER.

YOU SHOULD BE ON THE POLLS OF WHAT THEY NEED, WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.

SO IF YOU KNOW THAT RACISM IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS, YOU KNOW THAT IT'S, IT'S AN ISSUE NATIONALLY, RIGHT? SO HOW ABOUT I REACH OUT TO MY DIVERSE POPULATIONS AND TALK TO THEM, HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY, HOST TOWN HALLS LISTENED TO YOUR COMMUNITY.

IT SHOULDN'T TAKE THE NINE OF US TO TELL OUR LEADERSHIP.

THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.

NOW, WE'RE MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION, BUT YOU ALSO NEED TO BE IN TOUCH WITH OUR RESIDENTS OUT THERE.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S NEVER AN EXCUSE OF, I DIDN'T KNOW, BECAUSE YOU WERE ELECTED TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.

AND WHAT IS YOUR COMMUNITY LOOK LIKE? YOU WERE ELECTED TO SERVE THOSE PEOPLE.

AND EVEN OUR LEADERSHIP IS NOT REFLECTIVE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

I DON'T KNOW THAT OUR, UM, CITY STAFF IS REFLECTIVE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THESE ARE ALL SYSTEMIC ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN OUR CITY.

SO, UM, UM, I'M DONE WITH MY PORTION OF THE CONVERSATION.

UM, I DON'T WANT THIS TO COME ACROSS AS LIKE A BASHING ON THE CITY BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT AT ALL, BUT IT IS A CALL TO ACTION.

IT IS THAT WE DO NEED TO WORK TOGETHER.

WE'VE DONE OUR PART.

NOW WE NEED LEADERS TO DO THEIR PART.

WE'RE HERE TO ASSIST OR RECOMMEND AS NEEDED, BUT WE CAN'T DO SO.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR, UM, CITY LEADERSHIP REALLY STEP UP AND REALLY GET IN TOUCH WITH, WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE RESIDENTS ON WHAT THEY NEED.

WE, YOU, WE'VE LEARNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, RACISM AT PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.

YOU'VE LEARNED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF DIVERSITY IN THE COMMUNITY, THROUGH OUR EDUCATIONAL FORUMS. UM, YOU'VE LEARNED A LOT JUST FROM OUR DISCUSSIONS ON THIS DIOCESE HERE.

SO TAKE THAT EDUCATION AND THEN ALSO TAKE IT UPON YOURSELF TO EDUCATE YOURSELF BECAUSE I CAN'T TELL YOU EVERYTHING.

AND I ALSO CAN'T BE EXPECTED TO FIX A PROBLEM THAT I DIDN'T CREATE, AND I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT THERE.

OKAY.

SO THAT, THAT MOVES TO THE NEXT POINT OF THE FOLLOWUP TIME I WAS ON RECOMMENDATIONS.

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I, WE, WE NEED THERE TO BE SMALLER, SMALLER FOLLOWUP TIMELINES.

IF, UM, IF THEY'RE WORKING ON A MEETING DAY, KATIE, I MEAN, THE BIGGEST THING IS JUST COMMUNICATING WITH THE COMMISSION.

IF WE'RE WORKING ON A MEETING DAY AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, LET US KNOW THAT.

SO THAT WE DON'T THINK THAT YOU'RE SITTING, SITTING, YOU KNOW, IDLY BY, WE JUST NEED TO MOMENTUM ON THESE THINGS.

YEAH.

THEY SAID AT THE MEETING, RIGHT.

THAT THEY, THAT THEY NEED TO FOLLOW UP.

THEY WANTED IT, THEY HAD QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMISSION.

RIGHT.

SO I, SO IN MY MIND, I ASSUME THAT THEY WANTED TO MEET WITH US.

RIGHT.

THEY HAVE QUESTIONS.

I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW I PROVIDED SOME CLARIFICATION IN THE EMAIL, BUT, BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE THEY WANTED TO GET TOGETHER WITH US ANYWAY.

RIGHT.

TO, TO, UH, PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION.

SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AND HOPEFULLY IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN GET SCHEDULED, YOU KNOW, PRETTY SOON.

YEAH.

BECAUSE I MEAN, HONESTLY, KATIE, I'VE ATTENDED SOME SPECIAL MEETINGS AND THEY HAPPEN QUICKLY.

SO YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT WE, I THINK POSSIBLY CAN WE THROW OUT SOME TENTATIVE DATES, UM, AND SEE IF THOSE DATES WORK? I'M SURE YOU COULD.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, LIKE, IF I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH TONY AND SEE WHERE HE'S AT, UM, AS FAR AS THE SPECIAL MEETING GOES, BUT YEAH, HE, I'M SURE YOU CAN SEND.

YEAH.

BUT THAT'S, THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US, YOU KNOW, SUBMIT A COUPLE OF DATES AND LET THEM THROW BACK TO US WHETHER THOSE ARE DATES THAT ARE WORKABLE.

UM, BECAUSE I, IT DOESN'T TAKE THIS LONG TO GET A SPECIAL MEETING.

IT JUST DOESN'T.

UM, AND I'M TRYING TO STAY VERY POSITIVE, BUT I DO FEEL MUCH LIKE, UH, MR. UH, RICHARD SAID THAT I, I THINK, AND I HATE TO THROW THE SLOW ROLLING OUT, BUT THAT'S KINDA WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO ME.

UM, AND JUST US, SO MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON A COUPLE OF DATES, VOTE ON IT AND LET THEM TELL US YEAH.

YOUR NAIL KNOWS THAT IT'S WELL, WE ALREADY MADE IT, WELL, WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE THE MEETING, RIGHT.

OR THE REQUEST FOR A MEETING.

RIGHT.

SO WE JUST, I MEAN, HONESTLY RIGHT NOW, IF WE WANT TO INCLUDE THE DATES IN THAT, THAT'S FINE.

I MEAN, UM, UH, DO WE NEED TO, I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYONE HAS A CALENDAR CAN DETERMINE A DATE TONIGHT, BUT THAT'S, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

DO WE WANT TO LOOK AT DATES NOW, OR WE'RE IN A POSITION TO LOOK AT DAY THREE NOW LET'S, LET'S GET SOME, LET'S GET SOME DATES OUT THERE THEN THAT WAY YOU HAVE A DEWEY AND THAT'S FINE.

I AGREE WITH YOU DOING, UNLESS EVERYONE'S PREPARED TO GIVE A DATE TONIGHT.

I MEAN, AT LEAST WE GOT THE REQUEST IN, BUT IF WE WANT TO BOOK BACK, CIRCLE UP, LOOK AT OUR CALENDARS AND THEN MAYBE EMAIL, YOU KNOW, THREE, THEY SENT A DAY, A COUPLE OF DATES THAT WORK BEST FOR US BECAUSE I DON'T, CAN'T REALLY DECIDE.

YEAH.

I THINK THAT'D BE FAST TO DO IT THAT WAY.

NO.

WELL, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO JUST SET IT FOR OUR NEXT MEETING BECAUSE WE'RE ALL HERE.

YOU ALREADY GOT THAT CLEAR YOUR SCHEDULE 30 DAYS FROM NOW.

SO ALL MINE SHOULD BE CLEAR BY THEN.

YEAH.

HM.

MY MIND GETS CLEARED DAILY.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

OKAY.

OR YOU WANT TO SET THAT AS A DATE OR A NO LATER THAN THAT DATE, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING FOR THEM TO COME TO THE MEETING? OKAY.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

WE WANT TO MAKE THAT PART OF THIS MEETING.

YEAH.

CAUSE I, I, I DON'T THINK TO ME, IF WE CAN'T COME TO A RESOLUTION, WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER MEETING.

THAT'S JUST ME, SO RIGHT.

MAKE THIS AS AN AGENDA ITEM.

AND MAYBE THAT'S THE BEST, JUST THE AGENDA ITEM.

RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU GO THROUGH, WE STILL GO THROUGH OUR MINUTES, GO THROUGH OUR COMMITTEE, WHATEVER REPORTS, AND THEN THAT WOULD BE THE TOPIC.

RIGHT.

THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

YEAH.

SO ARE WE RECOMMENDING THAT ALL COUNCIL BE PRESENT AT OUR NEXT MEETING? IS THAT THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WORKS? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE ASKING? I BELIEVE YOU'RE BACK TO RECOMMENDING THE SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING FOR APRIL SEVEN, CORRECT? YES.

SO IT WOULD BE A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING RIGHT.

AT OUR, FOR THEM, FOR THEM TO BE POSTED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE ALL SEVEN ARE ALL NINE OF THEM.

CORRECT.

IF THAT'S DURING THIS COURSE OF OUR REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING,

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THAT'S ALREADY POSTED, I'LL ATTEND OUR MEETING RUN.

RIGHT.

BUT IF IT'S A DISCUSSION, THIS, LET ME GET WITH, I'LL GET WITH TONY AND SEE WHAT THE PROPER AND HOW BEST TO DO IT.

YEAH.

HOW BEST TO HAVE THIS MEETING.

OKAY.

BUT YEAH, I LIKE THAT IDEA.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

YEAH.

I AGREE.

AND MAKE THEM, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE IDEAL TIME.

THE NEXT TIME THAT WE MEET HAVE ALL MINDS CLEAR AS TO WHERE WE PROCEED FORWARD SOONER THAN LATER.

GREAT.

OKAY.

SO KATIE, WE'LL GET WITH TONY TO FIND OUT WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE AROUND.

RIGHT.

HAVING TO COUNSEL ATTEND OUR NEXT MEETING AVAILABLE.

RIGHT.

BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR MEETING, ARE THEY AVAILABLE TO EVEN SUPPORT ME IN THERE AT THAT MEETING? I DON'T KNOW.

NO, IT'D BE THURSDAY, APRIL 7TH.

YEAH.

I'VE GOT A WHOLE MONTH, SEVEN MAKE IT WORK.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSION MEETINGS.

UM, MS. PURVIS SENT OUT A RECOMMENDATION FOR COMMISSION MEETINGS, UM, AND HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE.

WHAT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT? YES.

OKAY.

TARA, DO YOU I'LL PASS THAT TO YOU? UM, I HAD JUST SENT OUT, UM, JUST A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE THE, UM, I KEEP USING CADENCE, WHICH FOR BUSINESS, BECAUSE IT DOES WORK, BUT THE CADENCE IN WHICH WE MEET TO TWO TIMES A MONTH VERSUS, UM, THE BROAD COMMISSION MEETING PLUS, UH, FOUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

SO THE SECOND MEETING OF THE MONTH WOULD ENCOMPASS ALL FOUR OF THOSE COMMITTEES MEETINGS IN ONE MEETING COLLECTIVELY, UM, TO ADD SOME OTHER VOICES INTO THESE INITIATIVES.

UM, AND TO JUST GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A COHESIVE, UM, VISION AMONGST OURSELVES AND OUR, OUR INITIATIVES AND FOCUS MOVING FORWARD 2022.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION? JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION.

SO ARE YOU ASKING, ARE YOU ASKING THAT WE HAVE INSTEAD OF COMMITTEE MEETINGS TO JUST DO ANOTHER COMMISSION MEETING? YES.

SO IT'D BE LIKE A WORK GROUP SESSION FOR THE COMMISSION AND THEN THIS MEETING WOULD BE WHERE WE VOTE ON MOVING FORWARD WITH THOSE IDEAS AND THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED IN THAT, THAT WORK GROUP TYPE MEETING.

MY ONLY HESITATION IS THE AMOUNT OF DETAIL THAT WE HAVE TO GO INTO.

AND SOME OF THE, LIKE THE OUTLOOK AND EDUCATION MEETINGS AND OUR MEETINGS WELL, WHERE YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DONE IN AN HOUR WHERE WE USUALLY START ABOUT SIX 30.

IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH.

WE USE IT THERE TILL NINE O'CLOCK.

SO ADDING MORE TO THAT MIGHT MAKE THAT A LONG MEETING FOR EVERYBODY.

JUST THE, IT WAS SORRY.

UM, IT WAS MORE TO CUT DOWN ON THOSE TYPE OF MEETINGS TO WHERE WE COULD TASK GROUP OUT.

A LOT OF THAT WORK TO EMAILS, TASKS, UH, TO PEOPLE GO GET THIS DONE AND THESE THREE PEOPLE GO GET THAT DONE.

UM, AND IT COULD ALSO ALLOW FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE FLUIDITY BETWEEN THE COMMISSIONS OR THE COMMITTEES TO WHERE IF THERE IS AN INITIATIVE THAT I WANT TO JUMP ON AND HELP, OR, YOU KNOW, TO BREAK DOWN AND HELP.

UM, I THINK IN MY VIEWPOINT, OR MY IDEA WOULD BE TO STILL KEEP THOSE CHAIRS OF THE COMMITTEE AND MAYBE THE INITIATIVE OF THAT MEETING OR THE MAIN TOPIC THAT WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON THE FUNK FEST OR THIS.

UM, BUT TO KIND OF LET PEOPLE JUMP IN AND OUT ON TASKS AND IDEAS AND INITIATIVES THAT THEY REALLY WANTED TO WORK ON.

YEAH.

AND, AND I, AND I LIKED THE, I LIKED THE IDEA, BUT MAYBE KIND OF TO FRED'S POINT.

RIGHT.

CAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT TOO, EVEN WHEN WE HAVE OUR REFORM MEETINGS, RIGHT.

THAT JUST THE DIALOGUE, RIGHT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF DIALOGUE THAT JUST TAKES TIME.

RIGHT.

I KNOW WE'LL MEET, WE MAY MEET FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.

SO IT'S, SO IF WE HAVE THOSE MEETINGS AND LET'S JUST SAY, WE, CAUSE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WE'LL HAVE EVERYONE THERE AND THEN WE'LL MAYBE TOUCH ON REFORM, TOUCH ON EDUCATION, OUTLOOK.

IT WILL GENERATE A CONVERSATION.

AND SO WE COULD BE ON A CONVERSATION WITH EVERYONE, THEIR OWN OUTREACH AND IT WHO, THE, WHO, WHO KNOWS HOW LONG THAT WILL TAKE.

RIGHT.

AND THEN WE MAY GET AROUND TO REFORM.

I JUST I'M CONCERNED THAT IT WOULD TURN EVEN THOUGH IN CONCEPT.

THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

I'M JUST IN, JUST IN TERMS OF EXECUTION, I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT IT, IT COULD LEAD TO SOME REALLY LONG CONVERSATIONS.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW? UM, I MEAN, LET'S REALLY TRY AND LIMIT THE FOCUS.

I DON'T KNOW.

RIGHT.

I JUST, I'M JUST, I DON'T GET, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE OTHER MEETINGS GO.

YOU GOTTA SAY YOU'RE IN THERE FOR A COUPLE HOURS.

I KNOW IN OUR MEETINGS WHERE THERE

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MAY MAYBE A COUPLE OF HOURS JUST THROUGH ALL THE CONVERSATION AND THE DISCUSSION, UH, BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET TO ASK FOR A RECOMMENDATION OR A, OR AN ACTION ITEM.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? UM, SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN IS, IS BECAUSE THEN IT MAY STILL LEAD TO ANOTHER MEETING TOO.

RIGHT.

SO YOU HAVE THIS MEETING, THEN YOU HAVE THIS, THIS MEETING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, PLUS MAYBE SOME OTHER SPECIFIC MEETINGS.

I KNOW WE'RE SAYING EMAILS, WHAT HAVE YOU.

BUT SOMETIMES THAT MAY REQUIRE EVEN A DISCUSSION IN ITSELF.

RIGHT.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST CONCERNED ABOUT, YEAH.

YEAH.

AND IF I DIDN'T SAY AND DEMAND EDUCATION, OUR MEETINGS HASN'T BEEN THAT LONG.

IT'S MAINLY BEEN THE TWO OF US AND IT'S STILL GOING TO BE THE TWO OF US RIGHT NOW.

AND MAINLY WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT PREPARATIONS FOR THE, UM, RACISM IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS FOR THEM.

SO THAT WAS OUR FOCUS, WHAT WAS GOING TO BE OUR ANYWAY FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

BUT I UNDERSTAND WITHOUT REACH, ESPECIALLY WITH CULTURE WEEK, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED, ESPECIALLY AT THIS POINT.

SO I THINK WITH TARA'S POINT, IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL HELP BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO NEED IT.

SO BE GOOD TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THOSE SESSIONS, THOSE WORK GROUPS FOR THAT.

I THINK IT ALSO, FOR ME, AND MAYBE IN THE DISCUSSION PART OF IT, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE FIVE OTHER VOICES OR EIGHT OTHER VOICES AT THAT TABLE.

UM, I THINK WE TEND TO GET A LITTLE PIGEONHOLED SOMETIMES IN SOME OF THESE CONVERSATIONS.

UM, WE ALL BRING A DIFFERENT FOCUS AREA OR A DIFFERENT WHEELHOUSE TO SOME OF THESE THINGS.

UM, AND HAVING THOSE VARYING OPINIONS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ERIC AND I COULD BE OFF ON A TANGENT ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH STUFF AND SOMEBODY ELSE COULD HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION TO BRING INTO THAT PIECE, UM, OR A DIFFERENT LENS THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE LOOKED AT.

I DO THINK THAT IT WILL REQUIRE A NEW MAYBE, SORRY, IT'S LATE AND I'M SEARCHING FOR WORDS.

I THINK IT WILL REQUIRE A DISCIPLINE, UM, FROM US AS COMMISSION MEMBERS FOR THAT WORK GROUP MEETING TO STAY TASK ORIENTED AND NOT TO GO OFF THE TANGENT DOWN THE PATH.

FOR SURE IF THAT'S THE CHOICE.

I JUST THINK SOME OF US THAT SERVE ON DIFFERENT COMMITTEES AND VARIOUS COMMITTEES, WE ARE ALREADY AT THREE, THREE MEETINGS.

AND IF SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS ARE TWO HOURS EACH ALREADY, I'M ALREADY IN FOR EIGHT HOURS OUT OF THE MONTH BETWEEN THREE MEETINGS.

SO IF WE CAN KEEP IT TO THE TASK OF THE DAY AND THE TASK OF THE DISCUSSION OR HOWEVER, AND JUST BE DISCIPLINED ABOUT IT, I JUST THINK IT, IT COULD BRING US A MORE COHESIVE VISION TO THIS COMMITTEE OR THE COMMISSION.

AND THAT'S WHAT I FEEL LIKE WE'VE ALL BEEN STRUGGLING LOOKING FOR AND TRYING TO GET TO.

RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR FOUR COMMITTEES, A LOT OF WHAT WE PLANNED TO DO THE KIND OF OVERLAP IT'S COMING BACK TOGETHER.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

ALLOW THAT WE'RE OUT OUR FIRST YEAR OUT.

AND WE, WE DID THINGS THE WAY WE DID THINGS BY A LOT OF THESE INITIATIVES AND A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE STARTING TO OVERLAP.

WE ARE STARTING TO SEE IT AS THE SYSTEMIC ISSUE OF WHAT IT IS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT TAKES A LOT MORE HANDS IN THE, IN THE POTS, IN THE DISCUSSION GROUPS.

RIGHT.

I MEAN, I SEE THE, IN TERMS OF LIKE COMING TOGETHER, LIKE, CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT LIKE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TYPE OF THING.

RIGHT.

WHICH IS SORT OF WHAT EDUCATION OUTREACH GUYS, SO TO TOUCH ON THAT.

SO I COULD SEE DEFINITELY WE CAN CALL OR COME TOGETHER AND HAVE A FOCUS IN ON THAT.

RIGHT.

UM, SO AGAIN, I LIKE, I THINK IT'S GOOD IN THAT ALLOWS US ALL TO HAVE THESE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, UH, TRANSPARENCY.

AND IT'D BE ABLE TO, LIKE I SAID, BRING OTHER THOUGHTS TO THE TABLE.

UM, WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO I SEE THE BENEFIT.

IT'S JUST, I THINK IT'S JUST THE DISCIPLINE.

CAN WE, CAN WE BE, BE DISCIPLINED SUCH THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, SIX HOURS, SIX, YOU KNOW, EXAGGERATE.

RIGHT.

BUT YOU KNOW, I KNOW SOME OF US CAN TALK TO RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO ME, TALK TO ME , I MEAN, LET'S TRY IT FOR A MONTH OR A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO SEE HOW IT WORKS.

I WILL SAY I PREEMPTIVELY LOOKED AT THE SCHEDULE ONLINE AND THE POLICE DIVISION IS OPEN THE SECOND THURSDAY.

IT IS NOT OPEN OVER HERE,

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NOT THIS, BUT THE ONE, TWO WEEKS AFTER, BUT REAL QUICK, JUST WHEN YOU'RE TALKING, GETTING THE WHOLE COMMISSION TOGETHER, MAKING DECISIONS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUBLICIZE IT AND IT'S GOING TO BE IN HERE.

OKAY.

WHEN YOU CALLED IT A WORK GROUP, THAT'S NOT REALLY WORK GROUP WORK GROUP SESSION.

RIGHT.

BUT WE'RE TALKING WORK GROUPS WHERE, I MEAN, TONY'S DEFINITION, IF YOU CAN HELP ME REMEMBER, IT WAS LIKE TWO TO THREE FOLKS THAT WENT ON.

IT'S THE TASK ORIENTED THING IT'S LIKE, YEAH.

SO YOU CAN SEND A GROUP HERE TO GO TASK AND DO THAT AND, YOU KNOW, TAKE YOUR COMMITTEES.

LIKE IF YOU'RE IN YOUR, ON ADVOCACY AND YOU WANT HELP EDUCATION, THEN JOIN AN EDUCATION AND DO TASK THAT WAY.

BUT SO YOU'RE TALKING, GETTING THE COMMISSION TOGETHER TWICE A MONTH, UM, STAFF WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY STAFF IT.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER, MAYBE AN ISSUE ALSO.

UM, SO JUST KIND OF KEEP THOSE THINGS IN MIND.

UM, BUT YEAH, WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY HAVE TO PUBLICIZE IT AND HAVE IT IN HERE SO IT CAN BE RECORDED.

HOW WAS THAT DIFFERENT THAN BECAUSE IT'S THE WHOLE COMMISSION VERSUS WHOLE COMMISSION EVEN THOUGH.

OKAY.

YOU STILL ANNOUNCED WHEN WE DO THE COMMITMENTS TOO, THOUGH, RIGHT? YEAH.

THE COMMITTEE THEY'RE PUBLICIZED.

THEY'RE JUST NOT RECORDED.

YOU GUYS STILL DO MINUTES AND SEND THEM MINUTES TO ME BECAUSE MINUTES DON'T HAVE TO GO ON THE WEBSITE.

I THINK THAT MAYBE A CHANGE TO WHAT TARA HAS IS THAT YOU COULD, YOU COULD SET THE GROUPS UP AS TASK COMING OUT OF THIS MEETING.

OKAY.

AND THEY, IT GO OFF AND DO WORK GROUPS.

I DON'T THINK YOU NECESSARILY NEED THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS.

CAUSE THAT'S WHERE I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET INTO, OKAY.

THERE'S THREE, FOUR FOLKS TOGETHER.

NOW YOU GOT TO RECORD THOSE MEETINGS, WHEREAS THE TASK OF MOVE AROUND.

SO IF, IF RON IS GOING TO DO THE FATHER, SHE'S GOT, YOU KNOW, ONE OR TWO OTHER PEOPLE WITH HER, SHE'S TASKED TO GO WORK ON THAT AND BRING THOSE NOTES BACK OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS AT THE MEETING, UH, YOU COULD DO.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, TARA IS DOING SOMETHING ELSE ON ANOTHER ONE AND YOU COULD WORK IT THAT WAY.

THEREFORE YOU DON'T HAVE TO TECHNICALLY HAVE THESE COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE NOTES AND YOU JUST ASSIGN THE TASK GROUPS COMING OUT OF THIS MEETING.

THEREFORE YOU ONLY HAVE THIS.

AND THEN WHATEVER THAT GROUP DECIDED, THEY WANT TO GET TOGETHER EITHER VIA EMAIL, EITHER VIA ZOOM, WHATEVER.

THAT'S NOT NOTHING THAT YOU'RE LOCKED IN, THAT YOU GOT TO PRODUCE A PUBLIC FORUM MEETING.

SO IF THE GOAL IS TO TRY TO ELIMINATE FROM HAVING TO DO ALL THESE DIFFERENT MEETINGS, YOU CAN GET AWAY FROM IT THAT WAY.

YEAH.

I STILL THINK THE WORK IS, I KNOW STILL THE WORK, RIGHT? I MEAN, THE ONLY THING MAYBE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IS MAYBE THE WRITING.

I DON'T KNOW THE MINUTES.

IF YOU GET RID OF THE, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OFFICIALLY GETTING RID OF THE COMMITTEES, RIGHT.

MAYBE THE MINUTES.

RIGHT.

BUT I THINK THE WORK IS STILL THE WORK, BUT WELL, I THINK ANOTHER WAY AROUND IT, SOME OF THOSE RULES MIGHT, EXCUSE ME, MIGHT BE TO HAVE A MEETING, A MEETING LIKE THAT AND SUCCESSION.

SO IF WE HAVE, LIKE WE DO ON TUESDAY WITH THE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH, UH, JUST DO OUTREACH, EDUCATION, ADVOCACY, AND UH, REFORM HOUR APART.

THAT MIGHT BE ONE WAY TO GET AROUND.

I MEAN, IT'S SEMANTICS.

YOU'LL HAVE ALL OF THE MEMBERS HERE JUST NOT HAVING A MEETING OF ALL OF THE MEMBERS.

CAN WE DO THAT? UM, I MEAN, IT WAS PLAYING WITH WORDS, BUT, UM, IT SOUNDS A WHOLE LESS CONVOLUTED THAN WHAT ERIC, MR. RICHARDSON WAS SUGGESTING AT LEAST SOME OF US PLANNING.

CORRECT.

BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE, BUT THAT'S WHAT HE WAS THERE FOR THE HOUR.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT SHE'S RECOMMENDING THOUGH.

SHE WANTS, YEAH.

I HAPPEN TO BE THERE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE'S MEAT AND THAT'S FINE, BUT THAT, BUT I'M SAYING YOU GOT TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THE PURPOSE OF WHAT SHE WAS TRYING TO PULL TOGETHER.

RIGHT.

AND HAVE US ALL TOGETHER TO SUPPORT THE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES.

SO YOU'LL BE THERE, BUT IT'S STILL WE'RE BACK AT WHAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

RIGHT.

YOU GOT THE WHOLE QUESTION IN THE FIRST PLACE.

FRED, THERE WASN'T A SUBVERSIVE, RIGHT? THAT MEANS LIKE YOU WOULD, IF WE ALL HAVE TO BE HERE, RIGHT.

IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AND NOW PUBLICIZE IN A PUBLIC MEETING FROM THE CITY.

I JUST KNOW IT AIN'T ME.

NOW YOU WERE SAYING TO HAVE THE FULL COMMISSION MEETING AND DO AWAY WITH THE COMMITTEES AND WHAT WAS YEAH.

SO NOW YOU JUST ASSIGNED TASK GROUPS OUT OF THIS MEETING.

SO TWO, THREE FOLKS ARE GOING TO WORK ON THE FUNK FESTIVAL WITH TWO, THREE FOLKS ARE GONNA DO THIS.

CAUSE THEREFORE YOU'RE NOT AT THAT MAGIC QUORUM NUMBER.

YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING.

THEY'RE NOT MAKING

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ANY DECISIONS.

IT'S JUST A TASK THAT YOU, THE CHAIRMAN WOULD ASSIGN.

YOU'RE GOING TO GO DO A, B, C, AND D, AND COME BACK NEXT MONTH WITH THAT INFORMATION, THOSE TASKS DONE.

HOW'S THAT ANY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW? WELL, YOU GOT TWO THINGS.

ONE, UM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT IN A PUBLIC SETTING.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME HERE.

YOU COULD DO THAT VIA EMAIL.

YOU COULD DO THAT VIA PHONE.

IT MAKES IT MORE CONVENIENT TO DO SO YOU'RE NOT LOCKED INTO A LOCATION LIKE FOR US, FOR THE REFORM.

OKAY.

WE GOT THE MEETING SET UP AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE GOT TO BE THERE.

WE GOT TO PRODUCE THE NOTES AND THE WHATNOT.

AND WHAT HAVE YOU, IS THIS TASK GROUP OR WORK GROUPS, I GUESS, IS WHAT TONY'S CALLING THEM.

YOU DON'T HAVE THAT.

YEAH.

STILL, YOU STILL HAVE TO.

BECAUSE EVEN WITH THE SEPARATE, THIS MEETING HERE, WHAT I'M SAYING IS EVEN IF WE HAVE THESE TWO MEETINGS, YOU WOULD STILL BE SOMEONE, BUT WOULD STILL BE WRITING NOTES, WRITING MINUTES FOR THAT.

THIS IS NOT REQUIRED.

YOU'RE YOU'RE WRITING NOTES.

AND I MEAN, YOU'RE DOING MINUTES BECAUSE IT IS A PUBLIC MEETING, WHICH IS REQUIRED BECAUSE YOU GOT THREE TO FOUR PEOPLE OF YOUR COMMISSION TOGETHER.

IT HAS TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED.

IT HAS TO BE PUBLIC.

AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE MINUTES.

IF YOU ONLY GOT TWO PEOPLE, ALL BETS ARE OFF.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS THOUGH, WE'RE STILL PROPOSING I'M WITH HIM, BUT WE STILL HAVE, WE'RE STILL PROPOSING TWO MEETINGS.

RIGHT? IT'S WHEN WE WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING.

OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE OUR CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

I MEAN OUR COMMISSION MEETING AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, ANOTHER MEETING NOW, RIGHT THERE, WHICH IS WHAT SHE RECOMMENDED, WHICH WOULD BE A PUBLIC MEETING.

RIGHT.

IT'S KIND OF A WORKING MEETING.

RIGHT? SO THAT WOULD STILL BE A MEETING WHERE, WHERE YOU HAVE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT AND THEN YOU'D HAVE TO WRITE MINUTES FOR THAT MEETING.

NOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE TASKS THAT MAY COME OUT OF THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE MINUTES FOR THAT.

I THINK THE PIECE WE'RE MISSING IS I SAID, WE NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE TO HER RECOMMENDATION.

THAT SECOND MEETING YOU DON'T HAVE.

THE TASK COMES OUT OF THIS MEETING, WHICH IS THE FIRST THURSDAY OR THE SECOND MEETING THAT SHE'S TALKING OR THE TASK, THE CAST WORK GROUPS WILL COME OUT OF THIS MEETING.

THAT'S WHY THE COMMITTEE DOES THE DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE COMMITTEES RIGHT NOW.

WHAT HAPPENED HERE? YEAH.

VERY NATURALLY.

YOU'RE GOING TO STILL BRING THE INFORMATION BACK, STILL DO YOUR COMMITTEE REPORTS.

IT'S JUST THAT LIKE WE MEET THE FIRST MONDAY THAT WE HAVE TO RECORD IT.

YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT.

WELL, HOW WOULD WE HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH INITIATIVES? BECAUSE, WELL, RIGHT NOW WE REALLY DON'T NEED IT.

CAUSE THERE'S ONLY THREE OF US.

CAUSE WE HAD WHICH MADE IT FOUR.

SO TECHNICALLY WE COULD DO WHAT I'M TELLING YOU.

WE COULD KANTZ AS LONG AS, AS SOON AS WE VOTE ON A TASK OR LIKE AS SOON AS WE PLAN SOMETHING, IT HAS TO BE A NOTICED MEETING.

LIKE THE TASK, ME GOING OUT AND CONNECTING WITH WALMART TO GET SOME EMAILS AND MAYBE IN KIND DONATIONS IS ONE THING AND WORKING INDEPENDENTLY WITH ONE PER NIGHT, INDEPENDENTLY, THAT'S ABOUT ABSURD.

BUT WORKING JUST IN TANDEM WITH ONE OTHER PERSON ON SIMPLE TASKS IS ONE THING.

BUT AS SOON AS THREE OF US MEET AND MAKE A DECISION ON ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE A NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING, YOU MAKE THE DECISION HERE.

BUT HOW WOULD THAT CUT DOWN ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE'RE SITTING HERE? YOUR WAS TIME WE SPENT JUST HAVING IN THE REFORM COMMITTEE, RIGHT? HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT AND THE WORD SHE USED DISCIPLINE IT'S IT'S MORE, IT'S MORE, IT'S MORE TASKS.

IT'S MORE ENGINEERED FOCUSES, WHICH IT HAS.

IT'S NOT SO MUCH.

WE GOT TO TALK.

YOU GOT TO HAVE SOME DIFFERENT LENS.

THIS COMMISSION FIVE, IT IS A QUARTER FIVE IS A QUORUM.

SO IT'S SO IF THREE OF US MEET, IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE PUBLISHED.

WELL, EXACTLY.

IF YOUR COMMISSION ONLY HAS THREE MEMBERS, YOU DON'T NEED CAUSE THERE'S NO QUORUM.

YEAH.

SO I'M FOR MISSION COMMITTEE, THE COMMITTEES, IF YOU HAVE THREE MEMBERS TO, AS A MAJORITY, SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO AND IF IT'S FOUR IT'S TOO, BUT AS LONG AS THE DECISION IS BEING MADE, THAT NEEDS TO BE A PUBLIC, CORRECT? BECAUSE YOU'RE MAKING, YOU'RE MAKING DECISIONS TO GO DO THE WORK, TO BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION.

THE COMMISSION MAKES THE DECISION, RIGHT? SO COMMITTEES HAVE TO BE, HAVE TO HAVE MINUTES TAKEN AND THEIR, AND THEIR PUBLIC NOTICE AND THEIR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

YOU'RE FINE.

IT DOESN'T WITH COMMITTEES THAT YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM, BUT COMMITTEES DOESN'T IT'S, IT'S THE WORK YOU'RE DOING IN THE COMMITTEE.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THERE'S NINE OF YOU AND THERE'S TWO MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S NOT A QUORUM FOR THE COMMISSION, THE COMMITTEE IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

YOU'RE TAKING THAT SEPARATE PIECE OUT.

SO LIKE YOU GUYS HAD THREE PEOPLE ON YOUR, IF YOU ONLY HAD ONE SHOW UP, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A MEETING.

CAUSE IT'S NOT A QUORUM.

RIGHT.

BUT IF IT'S STILL A COMMITTEE, IT STILL HAS TO BE PUBLICLY NOTICED, NOTICED IT'S REALLY, IT'S 10 PEOPLE BY A COUNCIL MEMBER.

SO I'M

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GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK.

I WAS TOLD THAT AS LONG AS WE HAVE FOUR OR LESS, THAT WAS, THAT DID NOT CONSTITUTE A QUORUM AND THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE VOTING AND COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

ANYWAY, THAT SHOULD BE COMING BACK TO THE COMMISSION.

CORRECT.

YOU'RE MAKING DECISIONS IN THE COMMITTEE.

WHAT TO BRING BACK TO THE COMMISSION TO VOTE ON THAT'S WHAT YOUR COMMITTEE SHOULD BE DOING.

RIGHT.

SO I GUESS I'M STILL, I'M STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

AND THIS IS JUST FROM PAST, FOR MY PAST COMMISSION, WHY WE ARE TRYING TO PUBLISH EVERY COMMITTEE MEETING WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A CORUM IN TECHNICALLY, BUT YOU DO HAVE A QUORUM WITH THAT COMMITTEE, BUT THE QUORUM IS BASED ON THE GREATER PERMISSION.

NOT FOR THE COMMITTEES.

SO KATIE YOU'RE SAYING THERE SHOULD BE AT LEAST TWO SKATERS.

NO, LIKE IF YOU'VE GOT A, IF YOU'VE GOT A FIVE BOWL, LET'S SAY FOUR PERSON, YOUR MAJORITY WOULD BE TWO PEOPLE.

OKAY.

LOVE YOU LOVE EDUCATION.

THERE'S TWO RIGHT.

ARM WRESTLE.

WELL, LET ME, LET ME SAY THIS REAL QUICK THEN.

SO THE, I MEAN BACK TO ERIC'S POINT, RIGHT? SO I THINK THE, MY WAY THAT WOULD WORK AND IT'S FINE IS IF WE, IF WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO ABOLISH, YOU HAVE TO NOT HAVE THE COMMITTEE.

RIGHT.

YOU GOT TO HAVE NOT.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS, AND THEN NOT EVEN HAVE RIGHT.

THE COMMITTEES, ADVOCACY, EDUCATION, GET RID OF IT AND JUST SAY, HEY GUYS, WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THESE TWO OR THREE INITIATIVES FOR THIS YEAR.

RIGHT? BECAUSE CAUSE IF YOU, IF, EVEN THOUGH IF YOU HAVE YOUR THREE THINGS, I HAVE MY THREE THINGS, YOU HAVE YOUR THREE THINGS.

NOW WE HAVE NINE THINGS AND WE WILL NEVER GET THROUGH A MEETING.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO JUST SAY, WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS AND COLLECTIVELY AGREE ON THESE ARE THE THREE OR FOUR THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON AS A COMMISSION AND BE DONE WITH IT.

RIGHT.

THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IT'S GOING TO WORK.

SO, SO WE NEED TO EITHER DECIDE, WE DECIDE ON THE GOALS THEN FOR THIS YEAR COLLECTIVELY, AND THEN WE CAN DO WHAT ERIC'S RECOMMENDED.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, I'M JUST SAYING IT CAN'T BE THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT THINGS FOR EACH COMMITTEE.

WE WOULD NEED TO DECIDE ON THIS RECOMMENDATION FIRST, BEFORE WE CHAT A NEW RECOMMENDATION, WE'RE ALMOST TWO HOURS IN ALREADY.

I'M NOT TRYING TO SPEED ANYBODY ALONG OR ANYTHING.

BUT, UM, SO THE RECOMMENDATION ON THE TABLE IS EITHER TO, OR IS TO HAVE A PLANNING MEETING AND THEN THE COMMISSION MEETING TWO MEETINGS OR KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS.

THAT'S THE WHAT'S ON THE TABLE.

I MEAN THE DEBATE AND ALL OF THAT IS, IS GREAT.

WE JUST CAN'T START GETTING INTO LIKE PLANNING A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WAS TRYING TO LIKE, LET'S NOT START PUTTING A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE WE DISCUSSED THIS RECOMMENDATION ALREADY LAST MONTH.

SO, UM, LET ME JUST READ REAL QUICK.

TONY'S MESSAGE ABOUT THESE.

THE MEETINGS SET UP, IT SAYS THE OHIO SONS, OHIO SUNSHINE LAWS SAY THAT JUST BECAUSE THE MEETING OF A PUBLIC BODY HAS A DIFFERENT NAME OR PURPOSE DOES NOT EXEMPT THE PUBLIC BODY FROM ALL OF THE STANDARD REQUIREMENTS LIKE MEETING NOTICES, ADVANCED NOTICE, AGENDAS MINUTES, ET CETERA, SIMILAR TO COUNCIL WORK SESSIONS, A WORK GROUP IF MEETING TOGETHER WOULD BE CONDUCTING PUBLIC BUSINESS.

AND SO WOULD HAVE TO MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS LIKE ANY OTHER MEETING.

AS THERE ARE ALREADY A NUMBER OF MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH THE CDC, CAC THAT HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THESE REQUIREMENTS, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THE CDC CAC BE ASSIGNED TO A SPECIFIC AREAS OF OVERSIGHT FOR FESTIVAL PLANNING AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS LIKE VOLUNTEERS ASSIGNED TO WORK ON EACH AREA CAN TAKE DIRECTION AND REPORT ON PROGRESS INDIVIDUALLY TO THE LEAD PERSON FOR EACH RESPECTIVE AREA.

BUT THEY SHOULD NOT BE MEETING AS A GROUP WITH PROPERLY NOTICING A PUBLIC MEETING AS REQUIRED.

IT WOULD BE OKAY FOR TWO TO THREE CCAC MEMBERS TO GET TOGETHER, TO WORK ON A TASK, AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT DEFINED AS A GROUP OF THE PUBLIC BODY AND THEN EASILY PERSON FOR THE RESPECTIVE AREA COULD REPORT OUT WHEN THEIR WORK AT THE MONTHLY MEETING.

SO THREE OF US CAN GET TOGETHER IN A TEST TO HAVE A TASK GROUP.

AND IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE PUBLISHED BASED ON WHAT TONY SAID, CORRECT.

YOUR, IF YOU'VE GIVEN A TASK OUT TO DO THOSE ITEMS, THE THREE OF YOU WOULD TAKE YOUR TASKS AND GO DO THEM AND REPORT BACK WHEN WE'RE DONE.

AND YOU REPORT BACK TO THE COMMISSION WHEN YOU'RE DONE.

SO FOR, I MEAN TO ERIC'S EXAMPLE, YOU COULD SIT AS A COMMISSION AND SAY, OKAY, THE FESTIVAL, YOU KIND OF KNOW NOW BECAUSE YOUR COMMITTEE'S WORKED ON IT.

OKAY.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS AND YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS.

AND THOSE PEOPLE WON'T GO OUT AND DO THOSE TASKS NOW, ARE THEY GOING TO TALK MOST DEFINITELY.

YEAH.

THOSE TWO TO THREE MEMBERS CAN GET TOGETHER TO WORK

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ON THE TASK OR WORK ON THE CLASS.

SO GO AHEAD.

LET'S GO BACK TO THAT.

YEAH.

SO GIVEN THAT WE HAVE, UM, TARA'S RECOMMENDATION THAT SHE HAS, UH, PUT FORWARD, WE NEED TO VOTE ON IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION OR NOT.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE SOME ALTERNATIVES TO STILL MEET THE OBJECTIVES OF THE RECOMMENDATION.

SO I AM GOING TO, UM, CALL A VOTE ON THE RECOMMENDATION.

ARE WE READY FOR THAT? OKAY.

WELL, SOMEONE NEEDS TO PUT A MOTION AND YOU WENT AND PUT TARGET ON, PUT YOUR EMOTION OR YOU WANT TO PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

I'M SURE I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MAKE THE FORMAL MOTION TO, UH, CHANGE THE CADENCE OF THE COMMISSION MEETINGS TO JUST TWICE MONTHLY, WITHOUT COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

SO A ONE PLANNING MEETING AND ONE BROAD COMMISSION MEETING TO VOTE ON ACTION ITEMS FROM THE PLANNING MEETING.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

I NEED TO INCLUDE A PROPOSED DATE OF THE MONTH.

MINE DID NOT.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION DID NOT HAVE A PROPOSED DATE OR DATE.

IT JUST SAID IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO HOLD THAT MEETING APPROXIMATELY TWO WEEKS AFTER OR BEFORE THIS MEETING ROUNDABOUT, WE HAVE A MOTION THERE'S NO, IS THERE SOMEONE PUTTING IT ON A SECOND? ALL WE READY TO EVEN BRING THIS TO VOTE OR DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS ADDITIONAL OPTIONS BEFORE WE DO THAT? WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE A SECOND.

SO THE MOST YOU CAN GO AHEAD FOR MY ONLY THING IS IT SEEMS INCOMPLETE, RIGHT, RIGHT.

WITHOUT A DATE.

AND I DON'T WANT TO COMMIT TO A DATE KNOWING THAT IF WE SAID TWO WEEKS, IT'S GOING TO BE ON A THURSDAY, EITHER TWO WEEKS BEFORE, TWO WEEKS AFTER EITHER WAY IS PROBLEMATIC FOR ME, ME TOO.

UM, IF WE PICKED A DATE AND SAID LIKE, IT'S GOING TO BE ON A TUESDAY, WHATEVER THAT IS THEN, AND SAY, THAT'S TUESDAY THE MONTH, THEN I'M FINE WITH THAT.

OR THERE'S WEDNESDAY, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, UM, I CAN DO THAT FOR ME.

THURSDAYS ARE PROBLEMATIC.

THE FIRST THURSDAY WAS FREE AND THAT THAT'S EASY, BUT THE SECOND, SECOND AND FOURTH, SECOND, THIRD, AND FOURTH.

OH, OKAY.

I MEAN, GIVEN THAT THERE ISN'T LIKE A DAY OR DATE IN THAT RECOMMENDATION, IF THERE IS A DAY OF THE WEEK THAT WORKS BETTER FOR THE BROAD COMMISSION.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I'M ALREADY MEETING ON MONDAYS.

AND WHEN DID WE MEET FOR ADVOCACY? WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, WEDNESDAYS.

SO I MEAN THAT, FOR ME, I'M, I'M MORE FLEXIBLE ON THAT PART OF IT.

I THINK FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST KNOW MORE ABOUT THE STRUCTURE OF THE MEETING AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO ATTACK ITEMS. YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A FOCUS OF ADVOCACY, ONE MEETING, A FOCUS OF REFORM, THE NEXT MEETING OF FOCUS OF EDUCATION.

WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE STRUCTURE BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT.

I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW IT'S GOING TO BE PLAYING AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

RIGHT.

AND, AND PART OF MY APPREHENSION APPREHENSION IS KIND OF TIED BACK TO WHAT ERIC IS MAYBE SAYING.

RIGHT.

BUT THE THING IS, YEAH, WE WOULD ALMOST HAVE TO GET RID OF THE COMMITTEES PER SE, AND JUST FOCUSING ON A HANDFUL OF OBJECTIVES OR GOALS.

I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IT'S GOING TO WORK.

RIGHT.

BECAUSE AGAIN, IF ADVOCACY HAS THREE OR FOUR THINGS, HE WANTS TO DO REFORM AS THREE OR FOUR THINGS, UH, OUTREACH, IT'S JUST NOT GONNA, IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO WORK.

RIGHT.

SO I THINK BEFORE WE I'M GOOD WITH IT, IT'S JUST THAT WE NEED TO, LIKE I SAID, WE NEED TO WORK ON THE DETAILS.

SO I THINK THERE'S JUST SOME MORE HOMEWORK WE NEED TO DO.

AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK WITH THE RECOMMENDATION AGAIN.

I LIKE IT, BUT I JUST THINK WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO RE-SCOPE POTENTIALLY, WELL, OBVIOUSLY AGREE ON A DATE.

RIGHT.

THAT'S PART OF IT, BUT THEN ALSO AGREE ON WHAT THE, WHAT ARE WE ACTUALLY GONNA FOCUS IN ON, UH, FOR THIS YEAR.

RIGHT.

I THINK THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE DONE SECOND TUESDAY.

THAT WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL.

YEAH.

12 MEETINGS A WEEK,

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LIKE MONDAY, THE MONDAY THAT WE HAVE OUR, UH, WE HAD OUR REFORMS TUESDAY SLACKER FOR ME, SHE'S IN SCHOOL, SO, OKAY.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO TAPE ALL THIS, UM, PENDING MORE DETAILS, UM, KIND OF RE SCOPING AND LOOKING AT THE FOCUS FOCAL AREAS.

AND WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THOSE FOCAL AREAS LOOK LIKE BEFORE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, A RECOMMENDATION OF HAVING THE DUAL MEETINGS.

SO I THINK THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION WE NEED TO HAVE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION.

I DO LIKE, UM, THE OBJECTIVES OF IT THOUGH, I REALLY DO SO WE WILL TABLE IT.

UM, AND ALSO HERE, MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT DATES ARE EVEN AVAILABLE BECAUSE THERE MAY NOT BE AN OPTION.

UH, AND I THINK THAT KATIE, THERE WAS SOME THINGS YOU NEEDED TO CHECK ON FROM THE CITY SIDE IN TERMS OF PERSONNEL.

YEAH.

I, I ABLE TO LOOK AT IT AND I'LL TALK TO TONY AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO IF THERE'S ANYTHING OKAY, MS. THE DATE, I MEAN, DATES ARE KIND OF FEW AND FAR BETWEEN AS DIFFICULT IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THIS ROOM FOR IT.

SO YEAH, IT HAS TO BE IN THIS ROOM IF IT'S GOING TO BE A PUBLIC MEETING.

YES.

WE HAVE IT IN MY BASEMENT.

THAT WOULD BE NICE.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL TABLE THAT WE'LL HEAR BACK FROM KATIE.

SO TARA SOUNDS LIKE YOU DON'T NEED TO LOOK INTO THE ROOM.

SO KATIE'S GOING TO LOOK INTO THAT PIECE AND GET BACK WITH US ON THAT.

UM, SO WE'LL TABLE IT FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

SO AS FAR AS THE ANSWER IS SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS, AS FAR AS CHANGING INITIATIVES AND FOCUS, WHO'S GOING TO DO THAT.

SO CAUSE WHEN WE GET TOGETHER AT THE NEXT MONTH MEETING, OKAY, WHAT RIGHT? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DISCUSS? RIGHT.

SO I WAS GOING TO, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST, OR EITHER RECOMMEND THAT, SORRY, WERE YOU NOT DONE? AND I STEPPED ON YOUR TOE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T TALK A LOT.

SO WHEN AN ORDER IN THE COURT, SO SORT OF LIKE WHAT WE DID THOUGH.

SO YOU REMEMBER, SO WHEN WE HAD OUR REFORMED ME, I SAID, HEY, AND IT'S ALL BRINGING OUR IDEAS, THAT MEETING, RIGHT.

THE OBJECTIVES WE WANT TO FOCUS IN ON.

RIGHT? SO WE ALL BROUGHT OUR IDEAS WHEN WE SAT DOWN AND WE, YOU BROUGHT TWO OR THREE, YOU BOUGHT A COUPLE AND I BROUGHT MINE AND WE COALESCED AND CAME UP WITH THREE, NOT NINE BUT THREE.

SO WHAT I RECOMMEND THAT WHEN WE MEET NEXT MONTH, YOU GUYS SPEND THE NEXT MONTH OR SO THINKING ABOUT WHAT YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO DO.

AND THEN WHEN WE MEET NEXT MONTH, WE THROW IT ALL ON THE TABLE AND THEN WE VOTE ON THE TOP THREE, RIGHT.

OUT OF ALL THE ONES THAT WE HAD.

I DON'T KNOW.

I'M JUST SAYING YOU CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION AND AGREE ON THAT.

YEAH.

I AGREE.

AGAIN, SAYS OUR COMMITTEES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MEET ANY WAY, YOU KNOW, FROM MARCH, WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WHEN EDGE, WHEN EDUCATION OUTREACH MEETS ON MARCH 22ND, WE CAN DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, OUR GOALS AND WE'LL BRING THEM FORTH TO THE TABLE, COME APRIL 7TH.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

AND I'M JUST RECOMMENDED CB NO MORE THAN AS A WHOLE, AS A COMMISSION, RIGHT? NO MORE THAN MAYBE THREE OR FOUR.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, TOP THREE OBJECTIVES, THREE OBJECTIVES OR THREE THINGS WE WANT TO DO.

RIGHT.

I GUESS KEEP IT SIMPLE.

AND WE JUST PUT ALL OUR HEART AND ENERGY INTO THAT, UH, AND, AND MOVE FORWARD.

AND THEN WE CAN, THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO DOING WHAT ERIC IS SAYING, WHICH I LIKE, YOU KNOW, EITHER JUST BE ALL IN, IF IT'S JUST THREE OR FOUR THINGS, MAYBE WE CAN DO IT JUST IN THIS MEETING.

OR WE COULD MAYBE HAVE A SEPARATE MEETING IF WE HAVE TO.

THAT'S FINE.

BUT, UH, BUT YEAH, I LIKE THAT, LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING EVERYBODY TOGETHER, WORKING ON THINGS, IF IT KIND OF PULLS US ALL TOGETHER AND, AND MAKES THE, THE BURDEN OF THE WORK A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER, I THINK, BUT ERIC AND ERIC WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

WE GOOD.

WE GOOD LIKE IT.

OKAY.

SO, UM, WE WILL DECIDE ON THE FUTURE GOALS.

TALK ABOUT THAT IN OUR NEXT MEETING, EVERYONE.

I THINK AT THIS POINT, EVERY COMMITTEE HAS ALREADY KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THEIR GOALS ANYWAY, SO IT SHOULD JUST BE, WELL, ALL OF THE COMMITTEES HAVE GOALS, SO IT SHOULD JUST BE A MATTER OF JUST PULLING THOSE TOGETHER.

UH, WE, WE CAN CREATE A GOOGLE DOC

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ALSO TO TRACK THOSE GOALS.

THAT WAY EVERYONE CAN VISUALIZE THOSE.

AND, UH, WE COULD PROBABLY, THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE GOING TO OVERLAP, SO THERE'S SOME WORK WE MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO DO BEFORE THE MEET.

ALL RIGHT.

PERFECT.

OKAY.

I'M GONNA MAKE IT OUT OF HERE BY 10 TONIGHT.

OKAY.

ARE WE GOOD ON THAT COMMISSION MEETINGS? GREAT.

OKAY.

ITEM D COMMISSION MEMBER OPENINGS.

OKAY.

UH, WE NOW HAVE TWO OPENINGS.

UM, JOHAN HONAKER HAS RESIGNED, UH, DUE TO HER TWO PERSONAL, UM, ISSUES OR, YEAH, SO SHE HAS RESIGNED EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.

SO WE NOW HAVE TWO OPENINGS.

WE HAVE TWO APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE COMMISSION.

UM, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET INTERVIEWS SCHEDULED FOR THOSE FOR NEXT WEEK.

ONE IS ROB, WHAT'S HIS NAME? ROBERT.

HIS LAST NAME.

WELL, YEAH, ROBERT ROBERT WILLIAMS. UM, I'M NOT TONY.

DIDN'T SEND US THE SECOND ONE, BUT WE HAVE TWO APPLICATIONS NOW.

OKAY.

SO W WE'RE SCHEDULING INTERVIEWS HOPEFULLY FOR NEXT WEEK? UM, I HAD, DID TALK TO THE NAACP REGARDING THE EX-OFFICIO MEMBERSHIP.

AND THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UH, DR.

FOUR GAVE ME, UH, THREE INDIVIDUALS TO SPEAK WITH ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY.

ONE OF THOSE I'M HOPING IS ONE OF THOSE APPLICATIONS THAT WAS SUBMITTED BECAUSE THE THREE INDIVIDUALS THAT HE GAVE ME ACTUALLY LIVE IN HUBER HEIGHTS.

SO THEY COULD BE AN EX-OFFICIO MEMBER OR THEY COULD HAVE APPLIED FOR THAT OPEN SEAT ON THE COMMISSION.

SO I'M HOPING THAT THE OTHER APPLICATIONS, ONE OF THOSE OKAY.

NEW BUSINESS, WE HAVE NONE.

ALL RIGHT.

I THINK THAT THAT IS EVERYTHING.

ANY OTHER ITEMS? WE'RE GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 9:06 PM.