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IS GOOD.[1. Call Meeting To Order/Roll Call]
OKAY.YOU NEVER ONE, WELCOME TO SEE IF HE WERE HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION.
TODAY'S DATE IS FEBRUARY 8TH, 2022.
UH, THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDER.
SO MR. ROGERS, IF YOU WOULD CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.
MR. SHAW HERE, THIS BREAKER, MR. CAMPBELL, MRS. BURR'S MR. OTTO, DEAR MR. LYONS.
UH, AND JUST TO NOTE, MR. LYONS, MR. CAMPBELL, AND MS. BAKER, MS. BAKER STILL ON HER WAY, HOPEFULLY, UH, IS GONNA MAKE IT, UH, BUT THEY HAVE REACHED OUT TO LET US KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT HERE AND NO EXCUSES NECESSARY, BUT THEY DID, UM, AT LEAST WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE OUT FOR A, FOR A REASON.
[2. Approval of Minutes]
SO NEXT IS OUR NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM, UH, ITEM TWO A IS THE JANUARY 18TH, 2022 MEETING.UH, THOSE MINUTES HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED AND IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR CONCERNS, THOSE WILL STANDARDS APPROVED ANYWAY.
THIS MENTAL STANDARDS APPROVED NEXT IS ITEM THREE, A I'M SORRY, JUST THREE, WHICH IS A WORK SESSION, TOPICS OF DISCUSSION AND ITEM THREE
[ City Manager Report/Water Infrastructure Update]
A IS A CITY MANAGER REPORT ALONG WITH THE WATERFRONT, UH, WATER INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATES.RIGHT? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, A COUPLE OF ITEMS FOR COUNCILS, UH, INFORMATION TONIGHT, UH, FIRST AT THE ANNEX GROUP IN ADDINGTON PLACE.
THOSE TWO SUBDIVISIONS HAVE NOT RESPONDED YET WITH ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT COUNCIL REQUESTED.
SO WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO TALK AND WORK WITH THOSE FOLKS TO TRY AND ADVANCE THE INTERESTS OF THE CITY, BUT WE HAVE NOT YET GOTTEN TO A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION NEEDED TO BRING TO COUNCIL.
SO, UH, WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT, UH, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS WHERE THE OLD WATER PLANT IS, UH, DEMOLISHED IN A, IN A COMPLETE STATE.
SO RESTORATION WORK IS DONE, UH, AND THAT SIDE IS, UH, IS READY FOR THE GRASS TO GROW WHEN THE, UH, WHEN THE SPRING ARISE.
UH, WE ALSO RECEIVED, UM, TODAY, UH, WELL ACTUALLY I'LL SAVE THAT FOR, UH, THE BRAND PIKE.
UH, STAFF REACHED OUT TO LWCC REGARDING A MONUMENTS GUIDELINE, OR, UM, UH, WE'LL CALL IT A GUIDELINE OR EXPECTATIONS WITH RESPECT TO, UH, MEMORIALS IN AND AROUND THE NEW VETERAN'S MEMORIAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROPERLY HONORING AND, UM, IN PAYING TRIBUTES TO THE INVESTMENT THAT WE'VE MADE ON BEHALF OF THE INVESTMENT THAT OUR VETERANS HAVE MADE.
SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE APPROPRIATE MEMORABILIA IN AND AROUND THAT SITE, UH, WATER AND SEWER, UH, EAST EXTENSION PROJECT IS CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE SHOULD HAVE A MORE DETAILED UPDATE, UH, IN THE NEXT MEETING OR TWO, BUT WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT ENGINEERING IS, UH, HUMMING ALONG PRELIMINARY NUMBERS APPEAR THAT, UH, OUR ESTIMATES ARE GOING TO BE ON THE LITTLE HIGH SIDE.
SO THAT'S REFRESHING, UH, I HAVE A MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH THE FAIRBORN CITY MANAGER TO DISCUSS, UH, TIE IN AGREEMENTS FOR WASTEWATER.
UH, SPEAKING OF WATER, WE ALSO HAD THE WATER STUDY RFP THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT.
SO THOSE WILL BE EVALUATED BY STAFF AND WE'LL HAVE A RECOMMENDATION AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING TOOL AWARD.
AND DID THE LAST ITEM I HAVE FOR COUNCIL AT THIS SECTION OF THE MEETING IS WITH RESPECT TO HORIZON LINE, WHICH IS OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNER ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EXECUTIVE AT BRANDT.
UH, WE'D BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM AND THEY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO MAKING A PRESENTATION TO PLANNING COMMISSION ON FEBRUARY 15TH.
THIS'LL BE THEIR KIND OF PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION.
THEN THERE'LL BE MAKING A FORMAL APPLICATION ON MARCH 15TH AND WE WOULD EXPECT THEM TO BE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, UH, AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
SO THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD THROUGH THEIR PARTICULAR DUE DILIGENCE TO REACH CLOSING CONDITIONS THAT, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE THIS EVENING SURFER, THESE, THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS, AND A FEW MORE TO PROVIDE FOR COUNCIL WHEN WE GET TO THE BRAND PIKE REVITALIZATION.
THANKS FOR, I APPRECIATE THE UPDATE ON COUNCIL.
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR BRIAN SPECIFIC TO, UH, ITEMS IN HIS UPDATE? YES.
THANK YOU, BRIAN, YOU HAD SENT US OUT AN EMAIL BACK ON THE 1ST OF FEBRUARY REGARDING THE ADDITIONAL WATER MAIN BREAKS AND THE LINING, UM, AREA.
UM, IN YOUR EMAIL, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE COST FOR THIS REPAIR, IN ADDITION TO PREVIOUS, THE PREVIOUS TWO BREAKS IS BEING DEDUCTED FROM THE LINING VENDORS INVOICE FOR SERVICE.
UM, AND IT, UH, GOES ON TO STATE THAT THE VENDOR HAS POSTED THE REQUIRED MAINTENANCE BOND AND ANY FUTURE BREAKS DURING THE WARRANTY PERIOD WILL BE CHARGED AGAINST THAT BOND.
JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, UM, WHAT IS THE REMAINING BOND THAT THEY HAVE LEFT IF THERE IS REMAINING BREAKS IN THE AREA AND THEY EXCEED THAT, WHAT IS OUR STEPS MOVING FORWARD? THE, AND RUSS, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE PERFORMANCE BOND IS 10.
IS IT 10% OF THE TOTAL PROJECT COSTS? UH, I BELIEVE IT, YEAH, IT'S ABOUT 140 TO A HUNDRED.
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COST OF A WATER MAIN BREAK IS 3,500 BUCKS TWO TO 3000.SO IF WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT MARGIN, WE HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS TO WORRY ABOUT THEN.
JUST WANTED TO KNOW THE, UH, THE NUMBERS AND THE EXPECTATIONS MOVING FORWARD ON THIS.
UM, BECAUSE THAT IS A CONCERN OF MINE THAT WE CONTINUED TO HAVE BREAKS IN THAT AREA AND WHICH IS WHY WE'RE DOING THIS UPCOMING STUDY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS WERE MADE AWARE THAT THIS IS NOT THE, THE CITY PAYING FOR THESE REPAIRS, IT'S AGAINST A MAINTENANCE BOND THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED BY THE VENDOR, CORRECT? YES.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU.
[ Becoming An Age-Friendly Community Presentation]
THREE B, WHICH HAS BECOMING AN AGE-FRIENDLY COMMUNITY PRESENTATION.UH, MRS. BERG HAD, UH, HAD ASKED, UM, IF SHE COULD MAKE A PRESENTATION COUNCIL FOR THE WORK SESSION.
SO, UM, LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT SHE HAS FOR US THIS EVENING.
UH, WHAT I'M GOING TO PROPOSE TONIGHT, UH, A P AND M V RPC HAVE PARTNERED TO HELP LOCAL COMMUNITIES START THIS IMPORTANT PLANNING PROCESS TO ADDRESS OUR AGING POPULATION AND TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES MORE AGE FRIENDLY.
HOWEVER, IT REQUIRES A CITY COMMITMENT TO TAKE ON THIS PROJECT AND TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN, UH, GRANTS ARE AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT OUR EFFORTS AND VR, PC, AND ARP HAVE RESOURCES TO HELP AND GUIDE US.
AND THIS WOULD BE AN INITIAL FIVE-YEAR PLAN, UH, THAT WILL BE SUSTAINABLE INTO THE FUTURE.
THE COUNCIL WILL AGREE TO PURSUE A GRANT AND START PLANNING TO MAKE OUR CITY IN AGE FRIENDLY, COMMUNITY FLIES FOR THIS PRESENTATION, OR FROM A BRIEFING THAT I RECEIVED AT A RECENT MVR MEETING, UH, AAR P HAS JOINED WITH THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION TO ESTABLISH AGE FRIENDLY NETWORKS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES AND THE WORLD.
THE, THE MIAMI VALLEY AGE FRIENDLY COMMUNITIES INITIATIVE IS A REGIONAL INITIATIVE BACKED BY THE DAYTON FOUNDATION AND NVR PCS INSTITUTE FOR LIVABLE AND EQUITABLE COMMUNITY PROGRAMS. UM, MS. LEE AND PALACE IS HERE.
UH, SHE HAS A DAYTON FOUNDATION DEL MAR ENCORE FELLOW.
UM, AND SHE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER AND JUST TO SUPPORT ME HERE.
AS SOON AS THIS SAYS, I'M GOING TO READ THIS FOR THE SAKE OF PEOPLE THAT CAN'T SEE IT.
A LIVABLE COMMUNITY IS ONE THAT IS SAFE AND SECURE, HAS AFFORDABLE AND APPROPRIATE HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS AND HAS SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND FEATURE FEATURES AND SERVICES.
THOSE RESOURCES ENHANCED PERSONAL INDEPENDENCE ALLOW RESIDENTS TO AGE IN PLACE AND FOSTER RESIDENTS ENGAGEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY, CIVIC, ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL LIFE.
AN AGE-FRIENDLY COMMUNITY IS ONE THAT IS FREE FROM PHYSICAL AND SOCIAL BARRIERS AND IS SUPPORTED BY POLICY SYSTEMS, SERVICES, PRODUCTS, AND TECHNOLOGIES THAT PROMOTE HEALTH AND BUILD AND MAINTAIN PHYSICAL AND MENTAL CAPACITY ACROSS THE LIFE COURSE AND ENABLE PEOPLE EVEN WHEN CAPACITY LOSS TO CONTINUE TO DO THINGS THEY VALUE.
AS YOU'LL SEE BY THIS CHART, HE HAS LIVABILITY SCALES IS 54 OUT OF A HUNDRED.
EVERY CATEGORY ON THE LEFT IS FURTHER BROKEN DOWN.
IF YOU GO TO, UH, ARP IS LIVABILITY INDEX PAGE, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS 2018 DATA.
SO, UM, WITH OUR GROWTH ADDITION OF AMENITIES AND INCREASES IN DIVERSITY, WE NEED TO GATHER MORE RECENT DATA TO REFLECT OUR CURRENT INDEX SCORE AND IDENTIFY AREAS NEEDING MORE FOCUS AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW AND AGE HERE ARE THEY DOMAINS OF LIVABILITY.
HUBER HIDE IS STRONG IN SOME AND, AND HAS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT AND OTHERS.
THE SHORT-TERM GOAL IS NOT TO RANK 100 ON THE LIVABILITY SCALE, BUT TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE
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TO ENSURE WE ARE CONTINUALLY MAKING PROGRESS TOWARD BUILDING AN AGE FRIENDLY COMMUNITY.IT BEGINS BY DEVELOPING A FIVE-YEAR PLAN AS WE'VE EXPERIENCED IN OUR CITY.
THERE'S A GREATER DEMAND FOR NON-TRADITIONAL HOUSING AND MORE MOBILITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
MANY PEOPLE, INCLUDING SENIORS DON'T WANT THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT COME WITH HOME OWNERSHIP.
PEOPLE ARE RETIRING EARLIER AND ARE MORE ACTIVE THAN PAST RETIREES.
THEY WANT MORE FREE TIME FOR RECREATION, SOCIALIZATION, AND SELF-IMPROVEMENT MORE PREFER TO RETIRE IN PLACE, NOT MOVE TO A RETIREMENT CENTER OR ASSISTED LIVING.
THE UNITED STATES AND COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD ARE FOCUSING ON THEIR AGING POPULATION AND ARE PLANNING TO ENSURE THEIR COMMUNITIES ARE AGE FRIENDLY.
THIS IS A, THIS IS A WORLD HEALTH NETWORK ORGANIZATION, UH, INITIATIVE.
THERE ARE 600 COMMUNITIES IN THE OHIO NETWORK ALONE.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO AGE FRIENDLY COMMUNITIES IN THE MIAMI VALLEY, BUT YELLOW SPRINGS IS IN THE EARLY STAGES OF PLANNING.
AND BELLBROOK HAS JUST BEGINNING THEIR PROCESS.
THE, AS YOU WILL SEE ON THE MAP THERE, UH, COLUMBUS AND, UH, OTHER AREAS HAVE ALREADY ACHIEVED THIS GOAL, UM, MADE THE COMMITMENT AND, AND, UH, THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THEIRS, UH, MEN, UH, MULTIPLE COMMUNITIES IN THE MIAMI VALLEY AND TEND TO MAKE THE COMMITMENT AND THE GRANT, INCLUDING HARRISON TOWNSHIP, TROTWOOD BEAVER CREEK.
I SUSPECT THAT, UH, THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE COMMUNITIES.
IF I, FOR THE GRANTS, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS CHART IN LESS THAN 10 YEARS, 20 TO 25 AND A HALF PERCENT OF OUR POPULATION WILL BE 65 OR OLDER.
WE NEED TO START PLANNING FOR THIS DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGE BY 2035 OLDER ADULTS, WHILE NUMBER CHILDREN FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY FROM OUR REGION, THE DELTA IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
SO WHY IS ALL THIS IMPORTANT? THIS INCREASE IN OUR AGING POPULATION IS CHANGING OUR WORKFORCE TRENDS.
RECENT STUDIES HAVE INDICATED THAT CHILDREN BORN TODAY WILL LIVE TO BE A HUNDRED YEARS OR OLDER WITH PEOPLE PROJECTED TO LIVE LONGER.
MANY WILL CHOOSE TO KEEP WORKING WHILE OTHERS WILL ACTUALLY OUTLIVE THEIR PENSIONS.
THE STANFORD CENTER ON LONGEVITY IS CREATING A NEW MAP OF LIFE BASED ON THAT 100 YEAR LIFE AND 60 YEAR CAREER TO ENSURE THAT CITIES HAVE ACTIVITIES, FACILITIES, AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT KEEP PEOPLE PHYSICALLY FIT MENTALLY SHARP AND FINANCIALLY SECURE WITH A SENSE OF BELONGING, PURPOSE, AND WORK.
AS I SAID, SENIORS WANT TO BE PRODUCTIVE LONGER BY DOING SO.
THEY ALSO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE INCOMES TO OUR CITIES AND SCHOOLS, WHICH IS A BIG PLUS.
THIS LONGER CAREER ALLOWS THEM TO PURSUE THEIR DREAMS OF STARTING A BUSINESS.
THEY WILL BE SHARING THEIR WISDOM AND EXPERIENCE WITH THE YOUNGER WORKFORCE ON A PART-TIME BASIS, WHICH WILL ENHANCE THE WORKFORCE.
SIMPLY PUT SENIORS WANT TO REMAIN A VALUABLE PART OF OUR SOCIETY.
WE'RE ALREADY SEEING RETIREES STARTING THEIR OWN BUSINESS, OFTEN SATISFYING A LONG TIME DREAM.
FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
A SOLOPRENEUR IS ONE WHO ORGANIZES, MANAGES AND ASSUMES THE TOTAL RISK OF A BUSINESS WITHOUT, UH, ANY PARTNERS,
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BOTH BUSINESSES AND SOCIETY WILL BENEFIT BY CONNECTING THE MULTI GENERAL SHARING OF NEW IDEAS WITH PAST PROFESSIONALS, FOCUSED EXPERTISE AND TALENTS TO ACHIEVE AMAZING RESULTS.AS WE'VE ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY SEEN EVIDENCE OF RETIREES LENDING THEIR EXPERIENCE TO YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS LIKE SCORE, WHICH IS A NATION'S LARGEST NETWORK OF FREE EXPERT BUSINESS MENTORS.
THE CURRENT TREND IS TO HIRE THESE RETIREES TO CAPITALIZE ON THIS, ON THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTISE, AND TO PROVIDE THEM AND THEIR COMMUNITIES ADDITIONAL INCOME.
YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY HEARD THE TERM.
SILVER IS GOLD IN YOUR WORKPLACE.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT REFERS TO.
THIS IS WHERE MBR, RPC AND ARP ARE ASKING COMMUNITIES TO COMMIT, TO BECOMING MORE AGE FRIENDLY AND ARE LENDING THEIR HELP.
TICKETS CITY STARTED WITH THIS TRANSITION AS SENIORS LIVE LONGER AND REMAIN HEALTHIER.
THEY WANT TO AGE IN PLACE IN THEIR HOME AND REMAIN ACTIVE.
THIS MEANS HAVING SAFE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, BICYCLE PATHS, AND ACCESS TO PARKS, COMMUNITY EVENTS AND VENUES, 10 MEMBER ORGANIZATIONS WILL RECEIVE $10,000 TO PURSUE THIS DESIGNATION, WHICH IS A MULTI-YEAR PLANNING EFFORT WITH THE GOAL OF ENHANCING AGE-FRIENDLY LIVABLE ASPECTS TO OUR COMMUNITY.
THE GRANT WILL SUPPORT THE CONDUCT OF SURVEY, SURVEY, RESEARCH, DATA ANALYSIS, AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO CREATE AN ACTION PLAN.
AND AS I SAID, A R P AND M B R P C, UH, ARE HERE TO ASSIST, ASSIST US WITH THE PLANNING COMPONENTS, UM, AND THERE'S TEMPLATES AVAILABLE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD ROADMAP TO BE ELIGIBLE.
YOUR ORGANIZATION MUST BE AN NVR PC MEMBER.
SO THAT BLOCK HAS CHECKED, MAKE A COMMITMENT TO BEING A DESIGNATED AGE FRIENDLY COMMUNITY.
BY JOINING THE ARP WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION, NETWORK OF AGE FRIENDLY STATES IN COMMUNITIES HAVE TO BE COMMITTED TO DEVELOPING A DIVERSITY INCLUSION POLICY.
AND I THINK WE'RE WELL ON OUR WAY WITH THAT, UM, IN ORDER WITH OUR, UH, CULTURE AND DIVERSITY COMMUNITY ACTION COMMITTEE, UM, AND, UH, DEMONSTRATE COLLABORATION WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND KEY COMMUNITY PARTNERS ALIGNED WITH EACH OTHER.
AS I SAID, THE FUND, THE FUNDING, UH, GRANT, UM, THE PROPOSAL DEADLINE AND THEIR PROPOSAL IS ALREADY ACTIVELY BEING PURSUED.
THE DEADLINE IS MARCH 15TH, 2022.
SO, UM, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT SOME TIME TO RESPOND, BUT IT'S NOT A LOT OF EFFORT.
IT BASICALLY, UM, WELL, HOLD ON THE LINK TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON THE PROPOSAL IS SHOWN THERE.
THE D ALL RIGHT, ALL COMMUNITIES THAT RECEIVED A GRANT WE'LL FORM A COHORT THAT WE'LL MEET MONTHLY VIA ZOOM TO SHARE IDEAS, EXPERIENCES, AND PROVIDE SUPPORT TO EACH OTHER.
WE WOULD HAVE TO COMMIT TO BECOMING A DE DESIGNATED AGE FRIENDLY COMMUNITY, AND THERE WILL BE MORE FUNDING, UH, OPPORTUNITIES AS WE PROGRESSED THROUGH THE PROCESS IN SUMMARY, UM, THIS ALL STARTS BY THE CITY MANAGER, SENDING A COMMITMENT LETTER TO ARP AT THE SAME TIME, WE SHOULD BE APPLYING FOR THE GRANT AS STATED THE DEADLINE IS MARCH 15.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, GLEN NANCY.
I'M ELIGIBLE FOR THE SENIOR CENTER THOUGH.
I'M NOT A MEMBER, BUT, UM, ANYHOW, BUT I'M CURIOUS BECAUSE, I MEAN, THIS IS IT'S, IT'S GOOD GENERAL INFORMATION, BUT
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THERE WERE CERTAIN PARTS, LIKE YOU MEANT IT MENTIONED IN AN EARLIER PART, SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY FEATURES AND SERVICES, BUT WHAT TYPES OF THINGS WOULD BE SENIOR FRIENDLY? THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WOULD BE WORKED THROUGH AS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE ROADMAP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF OUR, UM, ACCESSIBLE THINGS IN PLACE THAT WE HAVE, UM, SERVICES THAT MIGHT APPEAL TO SENIORS.WHEREAS WE'VE GOT A LOT FOR YOUNG PEOPLE, UM, JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE BUILDINGS ARE ACCESSIBLE, THAT THEY CAN GET INTO, LIKE, IF THEY WANT TO GO IN THE ROWS, NOBODY'S GOT A PROBLEM GETTING THERE, BUT WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AROUND THE COMMUNITY AND SEE IF WE HAVE ANY SHORTAGES.
BUT THE IMPORTANT THING HERE IS LOOKING TO THE FUTURE, RIGHT? AND SO WE STARTED S WE STARTED TO START SETTING SOME STANDARDS FOR WHERE WE WANT TO GO, AND IT'S JUST RECOGNIZING OUR WEAKNESSES AND OUR STRENGTHS.
YOU GOT ANY, IF YOU'LL GO TO THE MICROPHONE, JUST MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE AT HOME WATCHING CAN HEAR YOU ALSO, THANK YOU, NANCY.
I WAS GOING TO ADD TO THAT AS NANCY SHOWED YOU THE CHART OF THOSE DOMAINS, WHETHER IT WAS HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION, OUTDOOR PARKS, AND SPACES, YOU WOULD EVALUATE THOSE DOMAINS, THE AVAILABILITY IN EACH ONE OF THOSE PLUS THE QUALITY OF THOSE COMMUNITY FEATURES.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, YOU LOOK AT OUTDOOR SPACES, PERHAPS YOU HAVE A GREAT PARK SYSTEM, BUT OLDER ADULTS WANT TO DO HIKING TRAILS, BUT THEY ALSO WANT TO SIT.
SO PERHAPS PART OF YOUR ACTION PLAN WOULD INCLUDE MORE BENCHES WITHIN YOUR PARK SYSTEM.
IF YOU HAVE HOUSING NEEDS, WHERE YOU WANT MORE HOUSES WITH ZERO STEP ENTRANCES OR HOUSES WITH WIDER DOORS FOR WHEELCHAIRS OR WALKERS, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN TAILOR FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.
SO IF I MAY ATTEMPT TO SUMMARIZE, THIS IS NOT TO SAY WE'RE NOT, OR WE ARE AN AGE-FRIENDLY COMMUNITY.
THIS IS A STEP TO DETERMINE WHETHER WE ARE OR NOT, AND HOW WE COULD CORRECT ANY DEFICIENCIES THROUGH CHECKING FUTURE THINGS.
MA'AM UH, NANCY, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS GOING BACK TO THE ARP LITTLE GOLDIE SCORE, AND OURS IS 54.
UM, YOU HAD YELLOW SPRINGS IN BELLBROOK UP THERE AS, AS BEING, UM, ON THE MARKER MOVING TOWARDS IT.
SO WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE COMPARED TO OTHER COMMUNITIES? DO WE KNOW THE OTHER SCORES AROUND THE AREA? YES, WE DO.
ACTUALLY YOUR 54 IS, IS A VERY GOOD SCORE.
UM, OHIO IS ABOUT AN AVERAGE OUT OF 50.
THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER SCORE.
UM, CHORE, TROY AND DAYTON ARE ABOUT 52, 53.
UM, SO EVERYBODY'S AVERAGING IN THE RAGE OF 50, JUST A QUICK EXAMPLE OF HOW COMMUNITIES ARE USING THAT ARP LIVABILITY SCORE.
UM, THE PENTAGON ACTUALLY USED THAT TOOL IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHERE TO PLACE THE NASA SPACE COMMAND WHEN THEY WERE CONSIDERING DAYTON, OHIO.
SO THE PENTAGON HAD THREE CRITERIA.
THE FIRST ONE WAS YOU HAD TO BE CLOSE TO A MILITARY BASE.
SO WE HAVE RIGHT PAT, WE CHECK THAT BOX.
YOU HAD TO BE CLOSE TO AN URBAN CENTER, HAVE DAYTON.
AND THE THIRD CRITERIA WAS YOU HAD TO HAVE A SCORE ON THE AAR P LIVABILITY INDEX OF 50 OR GREATER.
SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, REALTORS ARE USING THIS BUSINESSES ARE USING THIS SCORING TOOL TO DETERMINE WHERE THE COMMUNITIES ARE MOST LIVABLE FOR PEOPLE OF ALL AGES.
A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION AND NANCY, UM, SINCE THERE APPEARS TO BE SOME URGENCY TO GETTING THIS DONE, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT, WHAT WILL DETERMINE YOUR TOP 10 SHOULD MORE THAN 10 APPLY FOR THE GRANT? HOW WILL YOU SELECT THE 10 THAT WILL RECEIVE THE GRANT? THAT'S THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
WE WILL HAVE 10 COMMUNITIES AND I'M VERY EXCITED AS I'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO COMMUNITIES ABOUT THE INTEREST IN DOING THIS WORK, WE ARE WORKING ON THE SCORING TOOL.
NOW THE INSTITUTE OF WHICH NANCY IS, IS A MEMBER OF THE LIVABLE AND EQUITABLE COMMUNITIES INSTITUTE, THEY'VE ALREADY ASSIGNED A REVIEW COMMITTEE, THE CHAIR OF THE AGE FRIENDLY INITIATIVE.
SHE HAS A REVIEW COMMITTEE AND WE'LL BE WORKING ON THE SCORING TOOL TO EVALUATE THE GRANTS THAT
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COME IN.I REMEMBER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
SO I'LL JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
I THINK THE, UM, ALL OF US KNOW, JUST FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF BABY BOOMERS THAT ARE RETIRING.
SO THE, THESE CHARTS THAT SHOW A SENIOR COMMUNITY GETTING MUCH LARGER AS WE MOVE INTO THE FUTURE RELATIVE TO, UM, TO CHILDREN OR MINORS.
I MEAN, TH THAT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME AT ALL, JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE'VE REACHED THIS TIME WHERE IT'S 25,000 PEOPLE A DAY ARE RETIRING AND, YOU KNOW, TURNING 65 AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE ALL IN OUR FACE.
SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY UP HERE THAT WOULD DISAGREE THAT MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, HE WRITES IS TOPS ON THE LIST FOR, FOR PEOPLE, UM, WHO'VE RETIRED OR SENIORS TO WANT TO LIVE.
I CERTAINLY WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HEBREW HEIGHTS IS A COMMUNITY THAT KEEPS OUR SENIORS.
SO WHEN THEY DO RETIRE, THEY CAN AGE IN PLACE OR HAVE SOME PLACE HERE THAT THEY WANT TO STAY.
UM, SO I THINK FOR ANYTHING ELSE, JUST, THIS IS KIND OF THE FIRST I'VE HEARD ABOUT THIS.
SO FOR ME, IT'S MORE OF JUST ABOUT INFORMATION, RIGHT? SO BRIAN, IN TERMS OF FILLING OUT THE, THE GRANT, I MEAN, IS THAT, I MEAN, LOOK, WE ALL KNOW WE'RE REALLY TIGHT ON OUR OWN RESOURCES RIGHT NOW, TOO.
SO I, I, THAT HAS A CONCERN OF MINE.
WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD OF GETTING THAT GRANT FILLED OUT AND GETTING THAT SUBMITTED BY THE TIMELINE? IS THAT EVEN, IS THAT EVEN A POSSIBILITY? UM, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT IF WE CAN MANAGE OUR TIME APPROPRIATELY THAT YES, WE CAN PROBABLY PUT TOGETHER SUFFICIENT MATERIALS TO MAKE THAT TIMELINE, THAT APPLICATION.
SO I THINK THEN THE NEXT THING IS JUST KNOWING WE HAVE A PARTNER IN THIS, BECAUSE I THINK ALL OF US UP HERE ARE ASKING GOOD QUESTIONS, BUT ARE JUST SO MANY THINGS THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS, THAT WE NEED TO FIND GOING FORWARD.
SO AS LONG AS THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THE ARP AND THE MCRPC, WHO'S WILLING TO BE PARTNERS, SO THAT HAS A ROADMAP TO HELP US GET TO WHATEVER THAT PLACE IS THEN, THEN YES.
CAUSE, UM, AGAIN, AGAINST, WHEN I THINK ABOUT OUR OWN RESOURCES RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE HAVE, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.
THAT'S A GREAT PLACE TO BE, BUT I CAN ALSO SEE WHERE WE'RE GONNA NEED A LOT OF HELP GETTING THERE, TO KNOW WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE IN THE END.
AND RIGHT NOW I DON'T HAVE AN IDEA, MAN.
I CAN'T PICTURE IN MY HEAD WHERE WE ARE, WHERE THAT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
BUT I THINK GETTING THERE AS A WORTHY GOAL, BUT I THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED SOME HELP HAVING PEOPLE COME ALONG WITH US AND SHOW US HOW TO GET THERE.
BUT I CERTAINLY THINK THE GRANT IS WORTHWHILE.
UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, ALL THAT DATA AND RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS, WE KNOW LOTS OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.
SO I THINK NEW DATA WOULD HELP.
SO THAT $10,000 GRANT WOULD CERTAINLY HELP US IN GETTING AT LEAST THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED SO WE CAN PLAN WHAT THE ROADMAP FORWARD WOULD LOOK LIKE.
LEE, HOW COMPLEX IS THE GRANT APPLICATION? SORRY TO MAKE YOU KEEP GETTING UP AND DOWN.
BUT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S A NINE TO 10 PAGE DOCUMENT.
SO IT'S NOT A DAUNTING PROCESS TO COMPLETE THE GRANT PROCESS.
AND, AND AS YOU SAID, THAT $10,000 WILL HELP YOU, UM, IN, IN A BIG WAY, GO THROUGH THE ASSESSMENT PROCESS, STARTING WITH YOUR COMMUNITY SURVEY, LISTENING SESSIONS, THERE'LL BE DOLLARS IN THERE FOR YOU TO RETAIN SERVICES, IF A CONSULTANT OR, UM, A RESEARCH DEPARTMENT TO HELP YOU.
I'M ACTUALLY WORKING WITH WRIGHT STATE UNIVERSITY AND ALSO U D.
SO WE ALL THE, ALL THE, UM, COMMUNITIES THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THE ASSESSMENT STAGE THAT WE HAVE A STATISTICAL, UM, EVALUATION.
SO THAT WILL HELP YOU REVIEW ALL THE DATA THAT COMES BACK FROM YOUR SURVEYS, LISTING SESSIONS, WHETHER YOU HAVE FOCUS GROUPS, THE, SO THE GRANT ON DOLLARS AND ALSO MCRPC AND ARP, WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE WITH TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.
I THINK THAT'S MY BIG QUESTION.
CONCERN IS THAT, DO WE HAVE A PARTNER IN THIS? UM, IF, IF WE MADE THAT COMMITMENT, THE LAST THING I'D WANT TO SEE IS WE'VE GOT THIS GRANT, WE'VE MADE THIS COMMITMENT, BUT NOW WE, WHAT DO WE DO? SO I WANT TO KNOW THERE'S SOMEBODY TO HELP US IN, WHAT DO WE DO? WHERE, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? UM, BUT THE OTHER THING IS TOO.
I KNOW WE, WE ALL KNOW THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT GET PASSED ON TO STAFF RIGHT NOW WITH WHAT OUR SITUATION IS.
WE GO, WELL, HEY, WHO'S GOING TO THAT.
AND BRIAN'S WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
SO WE CAN'T GET IN A SITUATION WHERE WE GOT THAT GOING ON AS WELL.
BUT, UM, SO FIRST THINGS FIRST ARE, BRIAN'S CONFIDENT THAT WE COULD MANAGE THE TIME TO GET THAT DOCUMENT FILLED OUT AND GET THAT STARTED.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK REST IS, IS JUST HELPING US WITH A ROADMAP SO WE KNOW WHERE TO GO.
UH, BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, I MEAN, I'D CERTAINLY RECOMMEND HOLD FOR THE COUNCIL DEGREE THAT WE AT LEAST APPLY FOR THAT GRANT AND SEE WHERE WE GO.
I THINK THIS IS A WORTHY CAUSE.
AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
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AND, UH, SARAH WILLIAMS IS ALREADY ON THE LIVABILITY COMMUNITY, UH, COMMISSION, SO HOPE HOPEFULLY, UM, WHEN SHE GETS BETTER, BECAUSE LIKE WE SAID, THESE ARE JUST MONTHLY ZOOM MEETINGS AND IT'S A MATTER, YOU KNOW, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT AS WE GO ALONG, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH EFFORTS INVOLVED.SO IT'S NOT LIKE FIRST THINGS.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR NANCY BECAUSE IT'S ONLY FOR THINGS FIRST IS THE, IS THE GRANT APPLICATION, ARE THERE ANY, UH, ANY OBJECTIONS TO, UM, ESPECIALLY AT THE GRANT APPLYING TYPICALLY WE'VE HAD A RESOLUTION JUST AUTHORIZE THAT THE LISTING, THE GRANT FILLING OUT THE GRANT APPLICATIONS.
AND WE'LL, WE'LL BRING THAT FORWARD.
ONCE WE PUT A, PUT THE GRANT TOGETHER AND WE KIND OF SKETCH THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT AND WE'LL BRING IT FORWARD WITH COUNCIL.
SO THAT MAY FOLLOW THAT PROCEDURE THAT COUNCIL HAS IN PLACE FOR THIS MONTH.
SO WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT LEGISLATION ON THAT.
SO THE OBJECTIONS WE'LL MOVE THAT ON TO MONDAY TO SEE THAT.
[ Arts and Beautification Commission Update Presentation]
THREE C, WHICH IS THE ARTS BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION UPDATE AND PRESENTATION.CINDY, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD TO SEE YOU.
SHE IS OUR CURRENT VICE CHAIR OF THE ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION, AND SHE'S GOING TO BE STANDING WITH ME TONIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE A GOOD TEAM.
UM, AGAIN, I GET NERVOUS UP HERE.
UM, I JUST GOTTA GET THAT BY JUST DO I'M HAVING LIKE ANXIETY OVER THERE.
UM, SO I WANT TO BASICALLY SAY, AND I KNOW THAT SHANNON FEELS THE SAME WAY.
UM, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING YOUR TRUST IN US.
UM, WE FEEL LIKE THE JOB THAT WE DO BRINGS A LOT OF JOY TO OUR COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF BEAUTIFICATION AROUND THE CITY.
THAT'S THE POINT OF, OF THE COMMISSION AND WE TRY TO WORK HARD TO DO THAT FOR YOU LAST YEAR.
UM, I WAS THE CHAIR LAST YEAR ALSO, BUT I DIDN'T COME UP HERE AND TALK TO YOU WHEN I PROBABLY SHOULD'VE.
CAUSE WE DID A LOT OF STUFF, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS COVID.
UM, SO THIS YEAR I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE UP FOR THAT AND, AND COME OUT EVERY QUARTER AND KIND OF FILL YOU IN ON WHAT WE'RE DOING OUT IN THE CITY.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, WE ARE EXCITED TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT WE HAVE AN ART EXHIBIT AND THAT IS COMING UP ON THE 12TH, WHICH IS THIS SATURDAY FROM TWO TO 7:00 PM.
THAT WE'LL BE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER ON POWER ROAD.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE 29 EXHIBITORS THAT ARE COMING IN.
THAT INCLUDES TWO GRADES, UH, GRADE SCHOOLS.
UM, AND SHANNON HAS DILIGENTLY WORKED HARD TO GET THOSE STUDENTS ENROLLED IN OUR ART SHOW.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE ANOTHER THING THAT WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT.
AND I WANT TO THANK JERRY FOR, BECAUSE SHE WORKED HARD ON THIS, UM, IS THAT WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP THROUGH THE CITY NOW, UM, WITH T-MOBILE AND THE DATE AND FOUNDATION.
SO WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS T-MOBILE HAS CREATED A SCHOLARSHIP FOR ART, FOR STUDENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,500.
EACH THERE'S $5,000 IN THE DATE AND FOUNDATION.
ALL THOSE DETAILS ARE BEING WORKED OUT RIGHT NOW, SO THAT WE CAN DISTRIBUTE TO SCHOLARSHIPS TO STUDENTS.
AND IT'S UNDER THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS NAME.
UM, SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, THESE SCHOLARSHIPS WILL GO TO WAYNE STUDENTS, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO INCLUDE BETHEL SCHOOL.
SO THEY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO APPLY.
UM, WE HAVE A COMMITTEE CURRENTLY, UM, THAT WILL BE REVIEWING THOSE SCHOLARSHIP HOMES.
ONCE THEY COME IN, I'M ON THE COMMITTEE, SHANNON'S ON THE COMMITTEE AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE, AND WE ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO LOOK THEM OVER, OF COURSE YOU CAN BE PART OF IT TOO, CAUSE IT'S KIND OF A REALLY COOL THING FOR US TO DO FOR STUDENTS.
UM, SO ANOTHER THING THAT WE WILL BE DOING SOON IS, UM, PLANNING FLOWERS IN THE URNS, AS YOU SEE OUTSIDE, OR THE FLOWER POTS WE ACTUALLY PURCHASED THOSE LAST YEAR.
UM, THEY ARE SITTING IN FRONT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ALSO CURRENTLY HERE AT THE CITY HALL.
WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE PUTTING MARIGOLDS IN THERE BECAUSE THAT'S APPROPRIATE AND GET THOSE STARTED SOON.
UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, ANOTHER THING TO BEAUTIFY IS RIGHT OVER HERE, UM, ON OLD TROY AND WE CALL IT THE BRIDGE DECK, I GUESS, ON BOTH CORNERS ON BOTH SIDES WHERE OUR CITY METAL SIGN IS.
WE, UM, HAVE APPROVED AND ARE GOING TO BE PURCHASING THESE REALLY PRETTY LIKE METAL FLOWERS THAT ARE GOING TO HANG RIGHT THERE.
SO PEOPLE WILL SEE THEM WHEN THEY'RE COMING.
THEY'RE AT THE LIGHT COMING OFF THE HIGHWAY, GOING ONTO THE HIGHWAY.
AND IT'S KIND OF GOING TO MAKE THAT AREA A LITTLE MORE WARM AND INVITING FOR PEOPLE AS THEY'RE SITTING THERE AND TRAFFIC OR COMING AND GOING.
UM, SO WE'RE REAL EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
WE ALSO HAVE IDENTIFIED AN ARTIST.
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LIVES AT LEXINGTON PLACE.THIS YOUNG MAN HAS ACTUALLY CREATED MURALS AT, UM, THE CITY OF DAYTON DOWN BY THE TRAIN TRACKS.
UM, HE HAS ALL THOSE DOWN THERE THAT HE'S PAINTED AND ALSO A NEW LEBANON AND SOME IN SPRINGBORO, HE'S CREATING ONE FOR US TO SEE THAT HE WANTS THE CITY TO, UH, KIND OF LOOK AT AND SEE IF YOU HAVE A PLACE FOR IT.
UM, I'VE GIVEN HIM AN IDEA OF WHAT I THOUGHT HE SHOULD INCLUDE AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE ARE A CITY OF MULTIPLE CULTURALS.
SO I ASKED HIM TO KIND OF INCLUDE ALL OF THAT IN HIS THOUGHT PROCESS AND THEN THE PAINTING.
SO HE HOPES TO HAVE THAT DONE FOR US.
THE, OF MARCH HE'S BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF CURRENTLY.
UM, AND WHEN HE DOES I'LL HAVE HIM COME UP AND SHOW IT TO YOU.
SO ALONG WITH THAT, UM, WE ARE GETTING READY THIS YEAR TO CONTINUE ON WITH WHAT IS CALLED OUR YARD BEAUTIFICATION AWARDS AND THAT ALWAYS INCLUDED TWO HOMES AND ALSO ONE BUSINESS.
AND AGAIN, THAT WILL BE ONLINE VOTING THAT WE'LL ASK OUR CITIZENS TO NOMINATE HOMES OR SEND AN EMAIL OUT OF WHO THEY THINK MIGHT DESERVE THESE AWARDS LAST YEAR.
IF YOU REMEMBER, WE ONLY DID THAT ONE TIME, BUT WE WANT TO KIND OF EXTEND THAT.
SO WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO DO THAT THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER SO THAT WE CAN INCLUDE MORE HOMES AND MORE BUSINESSES IN THE AWARD PROCESS.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
UM, ALSO IN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING.
OH, WE WILL ALSO BE, UM, GETTING SOME SEEDS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET THOSE DONATED AT LAST YEAR.
JERRY WAS GREAT AT THAT AND SHE GOT A LOT OF MARIGOLD SEEDS.
UM, WE WANT TO PUT TOGETHER SOME PACKETS ALONG WITH INFORMATION AS TO HOW AND WHEN THEY SHOULD START PLANNING THOSE AND TRY TO ENCOURAGE OUR HOMEOWNERS TO PUT SOME MIRACLES OUT IN FRONT OF THEIR HOMES.
IT'D BE NICE TO SEE THAT AROUND THE CITY A LITTLE MORE.
SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING HERE AT CITY HALL.
UM, WE'LL ANNOUNCE THAT THEY CAN COME HERE AND PICK UP THE PACKETS ALONG WITH THE DIRECTIONS.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO DO THAT PRETTY QUICKLY BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO PLANT THEM IN A POTTERY AT YOUR HOME, IT HAS TO BE DONE IN APRIL.
AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO PLANT THEM AT, AT, YOU KNOW, YOUR HOME, YOU WANT TO DO THAT AFTER THE FIRST FROST.
UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE ENCOURAGEMENT IN THAT WOULD BE ASKING HOMEOWNERS TO THEN BRING THOSE FLOWERS TO THE MARIGOLD FESTIVAL.
SO IF THEY WANT TO CREATE LIKE A DISPLAY OR SOMETHING, MAYBE EVEN A REEF AND WE'LL HAVE LIKE RIBBONS FOR PRIZES, YOU KNOW, BUT SOME CREATIVITY WITH THE MARIGOLDS.
UM, SO ALSO COMING UP IN APRIL, WE'RE EXCITED TO TELL YOU OUR BOARD PAST AND AGREED UPON AND NEW EVENT IN THE CITY CALLED HOPPING IN THE HEIGHTS EGG EXTRAVAGANZA AND WHAT THAT IS THIS SIMILAR TO HALLOWEEN.
UM, IT'S BASICALLY ON APRIL 16TH FROM TWO TO FOUR, WE'RE ASKING HOMEOWNERS TO PLEASE PASS OUT CANDY.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO PUT THEM IN AN EGGS.
IT CAN JUST BE A PIECE OF CANDY IF THEY WANT, BUT YOU KNOW, HAVE THE KIDS COME AROUND WITH THEIR BASKETS AND KIND OF GET THE CANDY, UM, MAYBE PUT A BALLOON OUTSIDE.
SO THE CHILDREN KNOW THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE HOUSES THAT ARE PARTICIPATING CURRENTLY.
THEN WE HAVE LIKE 91 HOMES CURRENTLY SIGNED UP.
SO I CAN ONLY SEE THIS GETTING BIGGER AND BETTER.
UM, WE HAVE SOME BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALSO GOING TO PARTICIPATE CURRENTLY.
ONE OF OUR SENIOR CENTER CENTERS, WHICH IS THE LANDINGS.
UM, THEY'RE ACTUALLY MAKING CRAFTS OVER THERE FOR KIDS AND THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE CHILDREN COME THERE DURING THAT DAY AND PASS OUT CANDY.
THEY'RE GOING TO PUT TENTS OUTSIDE WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY LIKE COME UP IN THE CARS AND KIND OF DRIVE AROUND AND GET THE THINGS THEY'VE MADE AND GET CANDY.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE, OH, I GOTTA REMEMBER THE NAME OF THAT CHURCH.
UM, GOSH GUYS, PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
UM, IT'S ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT CELEBRATED A HUNDRED YEARS, 150 YEARS.
SOFTWARE GROVE IS ALSO PARTICIPATING AND THEY'RE REAL EXCITED.
THEY'RE PUTTING A BIG BANNER OUT CALLED HOPPING IN THE HEIGHTS EXTRAVAGANZA AND THEY'RE HAVING A BIGGIE STRIKE HUNT OUTSIDE.
SO THEY'RE PARTICIPATING WITH US TOO, AND THAT'S KIND OF COOL.
UM, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, ALSO THERE'LL BE SOMETHING IN THE EGGS CALLED GOLDEN EGG PRIZES.
WE HAVE 250 GIFT CARDS OR GIFT CERTIFICATES FOR MEALS THAT WILL BE PUT IN IT, PUT IN THE EGGS, BUT ADDITIONAL TO THAT SO FAR, AND I'M WORKING ON 20, UM, SHOPPING EXPERIENCES.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THERE'S GOING TO BE EGGS.
THAT'LL HAVE A CERTIFICATE INSIDE.
THAT'LL SAY YOU'VE WON YOUR SHOPPING EXPERIENCE WITH EASTER, BONNIE, PLEASE MEET US AT TARGET AT SIX 30.
SO THAT SAME EVENING, THOSE THAT ONE WILL COME TO TARGET STORE COLLECT THEIR HUNDRED DOLLAR GIFT CARD.
THE EASTER BUNNY WILL BE THERE ALONG WITH LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
I'M REALLY EXCITED, VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME TO SHOP WITH THE KIDS.
SO THE BUNNY WILL BE SHOPPING.
CHANNEL TWO HAS COMMITTED TO COMING AND DOING A STORY CAUSE NO ONE'S EVER DONE ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE IN THEIR CITY.
UM, EVEN SHOPPING OR BEGGING AT THE HOUSES, YOU KNOW, FOR EASTER IT'S NEVER HAPPENED.
SO THEY WANT TO COME AND DO A STORY.
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OF EXCITED.UM, SO WE HAD THAT HOPING THAT WILL BECOME AN ANNUAL EVENT.
UM, THEN MOVING, WE HAVE FIVE MOVIES COMING UP THIS SUMMER AND THEY WILL BE ON OUR FRIDAY EVENINGS.
AND I THINK THE FIRST ONE STARTS ON JUNE THE THIRD.
UM, AND WE'LL RUN ALL THE WAY UNTIL OCTOBER.
WE WILL HAVE TWO THAT ARE DRIVING TYPE EXPERIENCES.
AND THREE OF OBVIOUSLY WE'LL BE AT EICHELBERGER.
UM, ONE OF THE ACTUAL MOVIES, UM, THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IS GOING TO BE CALLED PATROL.
AND I'M KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT THAT ONE BECAUSE THANK YOU, UM, CHIEF LEITNER, I KEEP LOOKING BACK AT HIM, BUT HE'S DONE A LOT.
UM, THEY WILL BE COMING THAT EVENING.
THEY'LL HAVE HOPE TO HAVE A NEW CANINE UNIT THAT THEY'LL BE BRINGING THE DOG, UM, AN HOUR BEFORE THE MOVIE AND INTERACT WITH THE KIDS ADDITIONAL TO THAT.
UM, CHIEF NICELY HAS COMMITTED TO COMING UP WITH THE FIRETRUCKS AN HOUR BEFORE THE MOVIE AND JUST KIND OF HAVE LIKE A REALLY COOL EXPERIENCE PRIOR TO CALL PATROL.
SO WE'RE REAL EXCITED ABOUT THAT PARTNERSHIP AND DOING THAT WITH THEM, UM, COLLABORATION.
THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH ALL THE MOVIES.
SO WHATEVER OTHER MOVIES WE PICK, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO INVITE GROUPS TO COME IN AN HOUR BEFORE AND MAKE IT FUN FOR THE KIDS AND THE FAMILIES.
UM, SO ALSO OUR LAST MOVIE REMINDING YOU IS GOING TO BE IN COLLABORATION WITH BITES IN THE HEIGHTS, AND THAT WILL BE AT THE ROSE AND OCTOBER.
UM, THAT MAY BE AGAIN TO BE ANNOUNCED, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON SOME THINGS STAR-SPANGLED PARADE.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT PARADE ITSELF RUNS RIGHT AFTER WHAT THE DIVERSITY GROUP IS TRYING TO PLAN, WHICH IS THEIR CULTURE WEEK.
UM, THEY HAVE TOLD ME THAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT MAYBE EACH DAY LEADING UP TO THE PARADE THAT THEY'LL HAVE LIKE AN ASIAN DAY WHERE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZE THE ASIAN COMMUNITY HISPANIC DAY AND MAYBE POSSIBLY A CULTURE FESTIVAL, WHICH IF THEY DO, I'VE ASKED THEM TO PLEASE LET US KNOW BECAUSE WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE AWESOME TO HAVE THOSE SAME GROUPS COMING WITH THEIR CLOUD OR SPRING A FLAG, DO A FLOAT AND WALK IN THE PARADE WITH US AND LET US KNOW THEY'RE HERE AND CELEBRATE PERFECT ENDING TO, TO THEIR WEEK.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, THEY'RE WORKING ON GETTING ME THE DETAILS SO I CAN GET AHOLD OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PARTICIPATING WITH THEM.
UM, THE STAR-SPANGLED PARADE ITSELF IS GOING TO BE ON JULY THE SECOND.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE'LL BE GOING RIGHT INTO STAR-SPANGLED CELEBRATION AT THOMAS CLOUD PARK.
UM, SO FAR WE HAVE A COMMITMENT FROM THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
THE CAR SHOW WILL BE THE SAME DAY, WHICH IS COOL, CAUSE WE'LL HAVE THAT IN THE FRONT AND WE HAD PLENTY OF ROOM FOR IT.
AND THEN OF COURSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING FOOD TRUCKS AND SUCH MORE TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE PARK, LIKE WHAT THEY DID LAST YEAR.
UM, WE'RE WORKING ON OUR FOOD TRUCKS.
UM, ALSO I THINK, UM, JERRY HAS A COMMANDMENT FROM THE OLD TIME BASEBALL GAME TO COME OUT AND PLAY.
WE DO HAVE A COMMITMENT FOR A PETTING ZOO.
AGAIN, THAT WAS A HIT LAST YEAR.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK.
UM, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT SOMETHING I'M GOING TO LET SHANNON COME UP AND TALK ABOUT.
AND THAT IS, UM, WE ARE LOOKING INTO AMUSEMENT RIDES AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A FEW YEARS AGO, BUT SHE ACTUALLY HAS SOME KNOWLEDGE AND SOME, I BELIEVE A FAMILY MEMBER ISN'T IT, BUT MAYBE ABLE TO OFFER US SOMETHING TO INCLUDE THE SHERIFF.
SO SHANNON, UM, WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH A COUPLE OF GROUPS THAT HAVE DONE BROOKVILLE, UM, PICNIC.
THEY DO A, A PICNIC EVERY YEAR AND THIS GROUP HAS DONE THEIR PICNIC.
THEY DO RIDES AND GAMES AND, UH, PORTIONS OF IT CAN BE, UM, SPLIT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE CARNIVAL, UH, COMPANY.
SO THAT IS STILL ALL IN WORKS, BUT WE'RE LOOKING INTO IT FURTHER.
AND I THINK THEY'RE COMING IN FEBRUARY TOO.
THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO OUR MEETING IN FEBRUARY AND ACTUALLY DO A PRESENTATION TO US.
SO IF YOU WANT TO WATCH IT THAT TIME OR, OR BE THERE THAT DAY, PLEASE, SO YOU CAN HELP US KIND OF FIGURE OUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN INCORPORATE INTO THE ACTUAL STAR-SPANGLED CELEBRATION.
UM, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID ALSO, UM, LOOKING AHEAD AT THE MIRACLE FESTIVAL, THE MIRACLE FESTIVAL.
SO, UM, WE FEEL IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE KIND OF START THINKING ABOUT HOW DO WE INCORPORATE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.
AND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF ADULTS THAT COME FOR THE BOOSTS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE STAYING.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE THIS EVENT MORE FRIENDLY.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT DOING SOME FUN THINGS, LIKE MAYBE A FAMILY READOUT RELAY LIKE A RACE, RIGHT, WHERE WE HAVE THEM SIGN UP AHEAD OF TIME AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A RELAY RACE.
UM, AND THEN MAYBE TROPHIES AT THE END OF THAT, WHICH WOULD BE FUN.
I THINK, UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A PIE EATING CONTEST WHERE WE WOULD HAVE OUR RESIDENTS BRING A PIE IN AND YOU GUYS GET TO BE OUR TASTERS.
AND, UM, WE, WE GIVE OUT RED, WHITE AND BLUE AWARDS FOR THAT KIND OF LIKE IF YOU'RE THINKING
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ABOUT A FAIR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO STILL KIND OF THOSE IDEAS BECAUSE THIS IS OUR ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.UM, SO WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THAT.
WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH, UM, SOME TEENAGE TEENAGERS WHO HAVE BANDS IN OUR LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL THAT MAYBE PLAY ROCK AND ROLL AND GET THEM OUT TO PLAY SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO GET THAT GROUP OUT.
UM, AND ALSO OF COURSE WORKING ON, UM, AN AGENDA, I THINK AN AGENDA IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT WAY PEOPLE WILL KNOW AHEAD OF TIME, HEY, I'M NOT GOING TO STAY ALL DAY, BUT THEY'RE DOING THE PIE EATING CONTEST AT THIS TIME.
SO I'LL COME OUT FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS ON THIS TIME BECAUSE IT KIND OF TENDS TO KIND OF GET TIRING TOWARDS THE END OF THE DAY AND WE LOSE A LOT OF PEOPLE AND THEN WE'RE JUST SITTING THERE.
SO IF WE HAVE AN AGENDA OF THINGS, WE CAN KEEP THAT ROLE ON, KEEP IT GOING.
UM, ANY IDEAS FROM YOU GUYS WOULD BE WELCOME, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO MAKE THIS MORE FAMILY ORIENTED.
I THINK, VALUABLE WHAT YOU SAID, CHILI, THERE YOU GO, A CHILI COOK-OFF THAT'S INSTEAD OF A PIE WE COULD DO THAT, YOU KNOW? UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
AND THEN OF COURSE WE DID TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'D STILL LIKE TO, UM, HAVE THAT MARIGOLD CONTEST AND INVITING PEOPLE TO BRING THEIR MARIGOLDS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE CAN DECORATE THIS THE STAGE AND ALSO GIVE PRIZES FOR THAT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A BIG PRIZE.
IT CAN JUST BE A, YOU KNOW, PRETTY RIBBON.
UM, WE STILL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE MIRACLES PAINTED ONTO THE STREET.
AGAIN, YOU DID THAT LAST YEAR FOR US AND IT WAS REALLY NEAT.
SO WE'D ASK THAT WE COULD PLEASE CONSIDER HAVING THAT DONE AGAIN.
UM, SO KIND OF THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THAT AGAIN.
I THINK IT, IT NEEDS, IT NEEDS TO BE MORE FAMILY OR IN IT, YOU KNOW, WE DO NEED OUR KIDS THERE.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE TREE LIGHTING IS GOING TO BE DECEMBER THE THIRD.
UM, AS YOU GUYS KNOW ON 2021, WE HAD A RECORD BREAKING ATTENDANCE.
UM, WE HAD SO MANY KIDS AND IT WAS SO AWESOME AND WE HAD SO MUCH PLANNED, BUT WE DIDN'T EVEN GET TO IT BECAUSE ALL THEY CARED ABOUT WAS SANTA CLAUS, YOU KNOW, AND GETTING THEIR PICTURE WITH HIM.
SO THERE WAS THINGS THAT KIND OF WE HAD GOING ON, BUT THERE WAS NO TIME.
I THINK WE HAD PROBABLY HOW MANY WOULD YOU SAY SHAMAN THERE? GOSH, THOSE PROBABLY I'D SAY FOUR OR 500 MAYBE IF, AND I DON'T EVEN THINK THAT'S EXAGGERATE HIGHER THAN THAT.
850 JERRY SAYS, THIS IS AWESOME.
I HEARD SANTA REQUESTED A THICKER CUSHION IN THE CHAIR.
THERE'S THINGS WE COULD, WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THIS YEAR.
LIKE, UM, WE DO THINK IT'S MORE VALUABLE TO KIND OF PUSH HIS CHAIR BACK, YOU KNOW, AGAINST THE WALL BECAUSE WE HAD KIDS THAT WE WORRIED ABOUT FALLING OFF THE STAGE.
UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, BUT I HOPE THIS YEAR IS JUST AS GOOD.
I REALLY DO BECAUSE IT WAS AWESOME.
UM, IN FACT, I THINK WE RAN OUT OF STUFF.
WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TO GIVE OUT, SO WE KIND OF PLAN A LITTLE BETTER AND THEN IF WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY THAT'S ALL RIGHT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE READY.
UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME SO FAR? ANYBODY? I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE REALLY APPRECIATE THE UPDATE.
I MEAN, THIS IS A LOT OF GREAT STUFF AND I TOOK A LOT OF NOTES.
SO, UM, I THINK THE COMMITTEE, I THINK WHAT YOU DO IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
YOU, I THINK WE TALK ABOUT, UM, WE TALK ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE, A LOT IN THIS CITY, AND I THINK IT'S A LOT OF THOSE LITTLE THINGS, LIKE, JUST FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THE, WHEN THE BANNERS WENT UP, I MEAN JUST WHEN THOSE ROAD BANNERS WENT UP ON THE, OR ON THE SIGNS, I THINK I GOT MORE MESSAGES AND EMAILS ABOUT THOSE.
AND EVEN AS LITTLE AS THAT IS, IT JUST MAKES PEOPLE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE SPACE THEY'RE IN.
AND THEN PROBABLY SECOND TO THAT WAS THE PEOPLE WHO EMAILED AND MESSAGED ABOUT THE BRICK LOOKING PAVERS THAT WENT ACROSS CHAMBERSBURG AND BRANCH.
JUST SO IT'S LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ADDS SOMETHING TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF PEOPLE.
SO, UM, PEOPLE DO NOTICE THE SMALL THINGS AND PEOPLE APPRECIATE THE SMALL THINGS.
I APPRECIATE WHAT THE COMMISSION DOES.
UM, APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU'VE GOT INVESTED IN WHAT YOU GUYS DO AND, AND VOLUNTEER YOUR TIME TO BRING SOME OF THAT QUALITY OF LIFE STUFF TO BACK TO THE PEOPLE, IF YOU'RE RIGHT.
SO, SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT AND I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, BUT I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE UPDATE.
OKAY, CINDY, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO BRING THIS UP.
I LOVE EVERYTHING YOU DO, BUT I REALLY FEEL STRONGLY THAT THAT MIRACLE FESTIVAL SHOULD CHANGE A DIFFERENT WEEKEND.
IT COMPETES WITH THE, UM, HIGH SCHOOLS, UM, BAND COMPETITION.
IT COMPETES WITH THE ITALIAN FESTIVAL, THE GREEK FESTIVAL,
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THE POPCORN FESTIVAL, WHICH THEY'RE ALL VERY CLOSE TO THIS AREA.AND I HATE THAT YOU PUT SO MUCH TIME AND EFFORT AND YOU'RE COMPETING AND WE DON'T GET AS BIGGER CROWDS AS I THINK WE COULD GET IF IT MOVED ANOTHER WEEKEND.
AND AS I THINK I NEED, I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY A VALID THOUGHT.
I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT, UM, WHAT SOME OF THOSE SURROUNDING DATES ARE, WHAT MAKES, WHAT MAKES SENSE.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF IN THAT SWEET SPOT EVEN THOUGH, WHICH IS THE REASON A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THOSE FESTIVALS BECAUSE IT'S NOT TOO COLD OUT YET.
WE'RE GETTING A SEPTEMBER IT'S PEOPLE AREN'T SWEATING TO DEATH BEING OUTSIDE ALL DAY.
BUT YEAH, I THINK, UM, JUST ONE MORE WEEKEND ONLY COMPETES REALLY THE BIGGEST FESTIVAL IS THE PORK FESTIVAL, THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND, WHICH IS FURTHER AWAY.
SO I, I JUST ALWAYS HAVE FELT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WEEKEND CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY CLOSE.
I THINK THE BIG THING HALFTIME USA IS A BIG NAVY.
AND SO RIGHT, THAT, THAT BEING THAT FIRST SATURDAY THERE IN SEPTEMBER IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE EITHER RUSHING TO GET OUT OF TO BE ABLE TO GO AND SEE, OR, YOU KNOW, FOUND MYSELF LEAVING A LITTLE EARLY TO GO THERE AND SEE THAT TOO.
UM, CAUSE THAT'S ALWAYS SUCH A BIG DRAW, YOU KNOW, FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL AND ALL THE OTHER LOCAL BANDS AND PEOPLE THAT COME FROM ALL OVER.
SO I THINK IT'S TRYING TO MAKE IT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE IT FAMILY FRIENDLY AND THERE ARE SO MANY THAT GO TO OUR HIGHEST SCHOOL AND STUFF COMPETING AGAINST THAT WOULD BE HARD.
IS THERE A USA BAND THAT EVENING LATE AFTERNOON? USUALLY I THINK IT'S LIKE, I THINK IT WAS LIKE SIX O'CLOCK.
YEAH, I THINK MY SORT OF 600, BUT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST GOING THERE AND GETTING THE, GETTING THE SPOT AND PEOPLE JUST TRY THAT TRANSITION.
BUT, UM, BUT IT'S JUST ONE MORE THING ADDED TO THAT DAY.
WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THE SAME TIME.
IT'S JUST, YOU GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING TO DO BOTH.
AND THEN I DON'T LIKE THAT EITHER PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE TO PICK AND CHOOSE OR IF THEY DECIDE, WELL, I'M GOING TO GO HERE, SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO THERE.
YOU KNOW? UM, I THINK, I THINK IT'S A GREAT POINT, I THINK, JUST TO LOOK AT THE DATES AND SEE, AND JUST LOOK AROUND, JUST LOOK AT IT AND THEN, THEN COME BACK WITH WHAT YOU THINK THE RIGHT RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO KEEP IT.
THEN, THEN THE RECOMMENDATION IS KEEP IT.
BUT IF THERE IS, IF THERE'S SOME OF THE DATES AT WORK AND LOOKING AT WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON, I MEAN, LET'S JUST, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.
WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO, TO CONSIDER WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE.
ANYONE ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
PLEASE WRITE ME IF YOU HAVE IDEAS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHILI COOK-OFF
[ Culture and Diversity Citizen Action Commission Recommendations]
NEXT UP IS I AM 3D, WHICH IS A CULTURE.CULTURAL DIVERSITY SAYS ACTION COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION LAST TIME.
AND I THINK THAT THE BIG ISSUE THAT WAS KIND OF BROUGHT UP WAS THIS EITHER SOME TYPE OF A REFORM COMMITTEE OR REVIEW COMMITTEE.
UM, I KNOW THAT THE COMMISSION HAD ACTUALLY TALKED WITH, UM, CHIEF LEITNER AND I THINK ONE OF THINGS THEY HAD SAID THAT CHIEF LEITNER WAS W WAS ON BOARD ON MAKING SOME TYPE OF, UM, COMMITTEE OR COMMISSION.
AND I THINK ALL OF US WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT THE GOAL ULTIMATELY IS THAT EVERYONE IS TREATED FAIRLY.
NO ONE IS DISCRIMINATED AGAINST.
NOBODY FEELS THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING TREATED EQUITABLY IN THE, IN THE CITY.
SO WELL, THAT BEING SAID, I THINK MY COUNCIL CERTAINLY DISCUSSED THIS, BUT I THINK IN TERMS OF SOME TYPE OF COMMITTEE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE LOOKING INTO THE ACTIONS OF AFTER THE FACT OF, OF OUR POLICE FORCE, I THINK WE HAVE TO KNOW WHERE HE'S IN MY MIND, WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THEIR SCOPE IS, WHAT IS IT THAT THIS COMMISSION IS LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH? SO KIND OF WHAT'S THE SCOPE OF THEIR WORK.
WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COMMISSION? HOW DO THEY SEE THAT ROLE? WHAT'S THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF THAT COMMISSION? WHAT DO THEY, WHAT DO THEY SEE THEIR ROLE? BUT I THINK THEY HAVE TO, IT'S MY OPINION.
THEY NEED TO PRESENT TO US AS A COUNCIL, WHAT THEY SEE THE ROLE OF THAT COMMITTEE BEING.
AND I DON'T MEAN THAT IT'S JUST, HEY, LET'S LOOK AT DAYTON AND SEE WHAT DAYTON DID CAUSE WE'RE NOT DATING.
WE HAVE DIFFERENT ISSUES IN DAYTON.
I MEAN, WHERE HE BRIGHTS, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, I, UM, I THINK WE'RE, I THINK OUR STARTING POINT QUITE FRANKLY, IS WAY DOWN THE LINE FROM A LOT OF OTHER OF OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES.
WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON HERE AND, YOU KNOW, CHIEF, YOU'VE GIVEN LOTS OF INFORMATION OVER TO THE REFORM COMMITTEE, WHO'S KIND OF, UM, KIND OF LOOKING INTO THIS.
UM, MR. STEVENS IS THE, IS THE CHAIR OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE.
SO, UH, YOU'VE GOT A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
BUT I THINK FOR US TO, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CREATING SOME TYPE OF LEGISLATION AND PASSING SOME TYPE OF CITY POLICY, THAT'S GOING TO BE POLICY FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
I THINK WE HAVE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO HERE.
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AND RIGHT NOW I'M I'M AS I SIT HERE NOW, I'M STILL NOT REAL SURE WHAT THE IDEAS AND THE GOALS AND WHAT THE ULTIMATE OUTCOME OF THE COMMISSION IS FOR THIS SPECIFIC COMMITTEE.AND WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOLANDA AND RHONDA, YOU KNOW, CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE ABOUT WHAT KIND OF, WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING PRESENTED TO COUNCIL FOR US TO REVIEW AND LOOK AT AND THEN FIND OUT IF THAT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO MOVE THAT FORWARD AND SOME TYPE OF FORMAL LEGISLATION.
SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE MY OPINION TO HAVE THEM PRESENT SOMETHING TO US AND US, JUST TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING UP BASED ON SOME OF THE TEMPLATE THAT THE CITY'S DONE, THAT ANOTHER CITY HAS DONE THAT, THAT WE MIGHT NOT HAVE EVEN REMOTELY SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY'RE HAVING.
SO, UM, THAT'S KINDA MY TAKE ON IT.
WE HAVE IN THAT VEIN, I WOULD ALSO LIKE, UH, AGAIN, WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO EARLIER, I WOULD LIKE SOME SPECIFIC, ACTIONABLE TYPE INFORMATION.
I MEAN, WE, WE DO A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT THEY SOUND GOOD AS DO ANYTHING.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO IF THEY SAY, WELL, WE'RE LOOKING TO FOSTER A COMMUNITY THAT EMPOWERS A.DOT, DOT, DOT, DOT THOSE THAT, THAT SOUNDS BEAUTIFUL.
IT'S VERY PRETTY AND IT'S FLOWERY, BUT IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING.
SO I WOULD ASK THEM TO BRING, WHAT DO YOU WANT ACTIONABLE THAT WE CAN WORK ON? THAT'S WHERE I WANT SPECIFICS.
THAT WAY WE CAN ACTUALLY WEIGH AND WHAT IT IS WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO DO.
WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT BECAUSE IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH THAT, UM, WITH THE AGE FRIENDLY COMMUNITY ON, OKAY, I DON'T WANT TO JUST SAY WE'RE DOING SOMETHING, WE GOT A GRANT AND THEN WE'RE ALL SITTING HERE LOOKING AT EACH OTHER, GOING, OKAY, WHAT DO WE DO NOW? SO I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THAT SITUATION OF, WELL, WHAT DO WE DO NOW? SO THAT'S WHY I THINK, YOU KNOW, I AM PUTTING HEAVILY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF DEVELOPING SOME TYPE OF SCOPE AND ACTION ITEMS BACK ONTO THE COMMISSION TO PRESENT TO US SO WE CAN THEN REVIEW.
AND THEN IN OUR PROCESS OF REVIEW, WE CAN THEN SAY, WELL, THIS MAKES SENSE.
THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, WHATEVER THAT CASE IS, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT IN THE FORM OF LEGISLATION WITH, WITH THE, UH, WITH BRIAN AND LAW DIRECTOR, I THINK WE HA WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
NOT US JUST GOING, I THINK THIS LOOKS GOOD OR SOUNDS GOOD.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOUR COMMENT AT ALL.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW WHO WOULD BE SERVING ON THIS COMPLAINT, REVIEW BOARD.
I MEAN, ARE WE TALKING, WE NEED TO HAVE AN ATTORNEY ON THERE.
WE NEED, WHO ARE THEY LOOKING TO PUT ON THIS COMMISSION? I WOULD LIKE TO REALLY KNOW THAT GREAT POINT.
AND I THINK THERE, UM, IN FACT, I TALKED TO DUKE TO CHIEF IN THE PAST ABOUT THAT.
I THINK THERE ARE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT DIFFERENT, UM, OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE THIS TYPE OF THING, RIGHT? THEY DO HAVE VERY CLEAR SPECIFICATIONS ON WHO IS SERVING ON THOSE COMMITTEES.
I THINK, WELL, YOU'RE ONE OF THE, I THINK IT MIGHT EVEN BE DATING, HAS A FORMER HAS HAD BE LIKE A RETIRED POLICE OFFICER HAS TO BE PART OF THE BOARD AND, UM, ERA IN ATTORNEY, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I THINK ALL THOSE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT, BUT I THINK WE GOT TO KNOW IN MY MIND, I GOT TO KNOW WHAT THE END GOAL IS.
WHAT IS IT THE COMMISSION IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND THEN GIVE US THE ACTION ITEMS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW I'M NOT COMFORTABLE MOVING AHEAD WITH SOMETHING OF US JUST CREATING SOMETHING OFF A TEMPLATE FROM SOMEBODY ELSE.
I THINK WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC TO HUMAN RIGHTS.
UM, BUT WE, BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOK WHEN WE, WHEN WE FORMED THIS COMMISSION, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THEIR ROLE IS.
THEY'RE A RECOMMENDING BODY BACK TO THIS COUNCIL.
UM, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANY OF YOU, BUT I'VE NEVER WRITTEN A PIECE OF LEGISLATION BEFORE.
UM, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, RICHARD, MAYBE YOU HAVE, UM, BUT SEVERAL DRAFTS.
SO, UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I'M, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN WRITING THAT LEGISLATION COMING UP WITH ALL THAT STUFF.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE COMMISSIONED A RECOMMENDING BODY.
I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE.
SO LET US REVIEW AND DECIDE IF THAT'S OUR PATH FORWARD.
SO FIRST OFF, ARE WE JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION ON ITEM ONE HERE? CAN I, I'VE ACTUALLY GOT A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON THIS ENTIRE RECOMMENDATION LIST IF I MAY.
I MEAN, THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THE RECOMMENDED.
I MEAN, IT'S ALL OF THEM, THAT'S THE ONE THAT STUCK OUT IN MY MIND AS KIND OF THE ONE THAT I WANTED TO SPEAK ON TONIGHT BECAUSE I HAD AT LEAST IN MY MIND A PRETTY CLEAR PATH OF HOW I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE THAT FORWARD, BUT CERTAINLY OPEN TO THIS WELL, AND THAT KIND OF GOES IN MERIT TO, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS ON HERE UM, IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY AND PLEASE TELL ME IF I'M MISSPEAKING, BUT IT IS MY IMPRESSION THAT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL IN JULY OF LAST YEAR, BUT HAVE PROVIDED NO GUIDANCE ON THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
AM I STATING THAT CORRECTLY? I THINK THERE HAS BEEN, UM, BASED ON THE DISCUSSION WE HAD LAST TIME KIND OF LACK OF COMMUNICATION OR WHAT THAT, WHAT THOSE PROCESSES, UM, WHAT THAT PROCESS SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO BECAUSE ONE OF THE OTHER ONES IN HERE, WHICH I THINK IS A
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GREAT WAY FOR US TO COLLABORATE WITH OUR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS THE RECOMMENDATION, UH, ADOPTION OF, UH, UM, RECOGNIZING BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES, UH, YOU KNOW, WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.I THINK THAT'S A, A GREAT, UH, YOU KNOW, COLLABORATION, I BELIEVE MS. DAVIDSON USED THE WORD EARLIER IN HER PRESENTATION.
UM, ADDITIONALLY THE, THE GATHERING AND REPORTING OF, UM, UM, E O DATA.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THERE'S JUST A LOT OF UNKNOWNS HERE.
JUSTIN KNOWS THREE FROM JULY OF 2021 THAT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I WOULD ALSO NEED SOME FURTHER INFORMATION AND GUIDANCE ON WHAT THEY'RE ASKING US TO PUT INTO POLICY.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN BRIAN'S, YOU KNOW, AND PUT ON THIS AS WELL AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH.
AND ONE OF OUR AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT IS, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSING THE, UM, SEARCH AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY FUTURE HIRING OF A NEW CITY MANAGER.
THIS IS A MAJOR CITY POLICY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THIS TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, COMPLAINT, UH, PROCESS RECOMMENDATION, NOT ONLY JUST FOR THE POLICE CHIEF, BUT FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL CITY MANAGER, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD GET MORE INFORMATION FROM THAT COMMITTEE ON AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WAIT UNTIL THAT NEW CITY MANAGER IS HIRED TO GET HIS OR HER INPUT, UM, ON PUTTING THAT IN PLAY, IF THAT DOES MOVE FORWARD.
CAUSE I THINK THAT IS A PRETTY, YOU KNOW, ARCH POLICY CHANGE THAT, YOU KNOW, W THIS COUNCIL WILL BE ASKING THAT CITY MANAGER WHEN THEY'RE HIRED TO PUT IN, UH, TO PLACE.
I, UM, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT WHATSOEVER.
I MEAN, BECAUSE WHEN LOOK, WHEN THIS IS ALL SAID AND DONE WHOEVER THE NEW CITY MANAGER IS, IS GOING TO BE, UM, SUPERVISOR CORRECT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, EVERYBODY ELSE IN HERE.
SO FEEDBACK FROM THAT PERSON I THINK IS PROBABLY PRETTY CRITICAL.
AND, AND, AND THE TIMELINE MAY COME OUT ONCE WE GET SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, INFORMATION FROM THE REFORM COMMITTEE ON THEIR RECOMMENDATION THAT MAY ALIGN, YOU KNOW, WITH THE TIME, HOPEFULLY THAT, YOU KNOW, A NEW CITY MANAGER IS, UH, YOU KNOW, HIRED INTO THE CITY AND COMES ON BOARD AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD JUST WORK ITSELF OUT.
BUT THAT'S JUST KINDA MY, MY THOUGHTS.
SO I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT STOPS THE DISCUSSION MOVING FORWARD, BUT I THINK I AGREE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE, THAT WE DON'T HAVE BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CREATING POLICY.
THIS ISN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THROWING SOME STUFF TOGETHER REAL QUICK.
I'LL COME BACK TO YOU IN ONE SECOND, GLENN, UH, CHIEF, I KNOW YOU HAD HAD SOME CONVERSATION WITH THERE WAS SANK.
IS THAT PART OF THE, I GUESS, KIND OF THE EEO POLICY, YOU HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS AND PROVIDED SOME DATA BACK TO THE REFORM COMMITTEE REGARDING PREVIOUS RECRUITMENT EFFORTS AND, AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
AND I THINK YOU EVEN SAID, HEY, WOW, THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF NOT KNOWING ALL THAT, BECAUSE WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
BUT WHEN YOU PROVIDE THAT DATA, IT WAS SHOCKING.
HOW MUCH OF AN EFFORT WE DO TAKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE CANDIDATES, THE BEST CANDIDATES, REGARDLESS OF RACE AND GENDER AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
SO I'VE NEVER MET WITH THE FULL COMMISSION, BUT I MET PROBABLY A HALF A TIMES WITH THE REFORM COMMITTEE AND WE'VE HAD VERY GOOD, UH, BACK TO BACK AND FORTH EXCHANGE.
UM, BUT WHAT IT CAME DOWN TO AND, AND TALKING TO THEM WAS IS JUST A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE.
THEY JUST DIDN'T KNOW A LOT OF THINGS WE DID.
AND IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, RECRUITMENT, UM, THEY DIDN'T KNOW ALL THE RECRUITMENT EFFORTS WE DID.
THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE HAD POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE THAT ARE NOT ONLY STATE ACCREDITED, BUT NATIONALLY ACCREDITED AND RECOGNIZED.
AND I PROVIDED THEM WITH THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF OUR ANALYSIS.
AND I WATCHED, I WATCHED A COMMISSION MEETING, UM, A RECORDED MEETING WHERE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THEM.
AND ALL OF THEM WERE SHOCKED THAT THEY JUST DIDN'T KNOW, BUT THEY WERE IMPRESSED, VERY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT WE DID AND THOUGHT THAT WE WERE IN THE RIGHT PLACE WHEN IT CAME TO RECRUITMENT.
AND WE WERE DOING THE RIGHT THINGS WHEN IT CAME TO RECRUITMENT.
SO I THINK A LOT OF THINGS THAT I'VE TOLD THE REFORM COMMITTEE AND PROVIDED, CAUSE I'VE BEEN AN OPEN BOOK TO THE REFORM COMMITTEE BECAUSE IT'S ALL THERE.
ALL OF OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ARE OUR ANALYSIS IS OUR REPORTS.
WE DO EVERY YEAR, UM, TO MAINTAIN OUR ACCREDITATION, OUR NATIONAL ACCREDITATION, I, I I'LL PROVIDE AND I HAVE PROVIDED TO THEM.
AND, UM, THEY'VE BEEN VERY RECEPTIVE AND VERY APPRECIATIVE OF IT.
AND I THINK NOW THAT THEY'RE GETTING THE INFORMATION, I THINK THEY'RE STARTING TO SEE MORE, UH, HOW WE WORK IN WHAT WE DO.
UM, EXAMPLE THEY DIDN'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, UH, COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS, UH, THAT WE HAVE TO MANAGE IN OUR CITY.
I HAVE FIVE AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THOSE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS THAT LIMIT WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO WHEN IT COMES TO AN INTERNAL INVESTIGATION THAT IF I DO IT, THEN IT CAN BE AN UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICE.
SO THEY JUST DIDN'T KNOW ALL THAT STUFF.
AND I PROVIDED TO THEM AND THEY SEE IT.
SO A LOT OF QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.
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TO IT.UM, SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE JUST NEED TO KEEP DOING IS JUST GETTING THAT INFORMATION TO, OKAY.
I'M JUST KIND OF THE PROVERBIAL KEEP PEELING THE LAYERS OF THE ONION, THE ONION BACK.
SO EVERYBODY COULD SEE THAT LOOK, I THINK WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT AND CELEBRATE MORE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO, RIGHT.
AND MAYBE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS AN ORGANIZATION, WE HAVEN'T DONE AS MUCH AS WE CAN THERE TO REALLY TALK ABOUT THE EFFORTS THAT WE GO TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FAIR AND OUR LABOR PRACTICES ARE FAIR AND OUR RECRUITMENT EFFORTS ARE FAIR.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, RICHARD, YOU BROUGHT THAT UP SO MANY TIMES ABOUT JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOK IT'S EDUCATION, RIGHT? IT'S MAKING PEOPLE AWARE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING OR INFORMATION THAT IS AVAILABLE.
SO, UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS.
I APPRECIATE YOU BEING WILLING TO SIT AT THE TABLE AND TALK WITH THEM.
UM, I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM AND I KNOW YOUR BACK IS AGAINST THE WALL WITH THOSE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS AND HOW THAT ALL WORKS.
SO IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, BUT LIKE YOU SAID, I THINK PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW ALL TO THE EXTENT THAT WE GO THROUGH, REALLY MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THINGS THE RIGHT WAY.
SO, SO I APPRECIATE, I APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA KEEP HIJACKING THIS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW HOW WE'RE, HOW WE'RE MOVING TO AND YOU HAD, YOU HAVE SOMETHING.
YEAH, I DID, BUT NOT DIRECTED TO YOU.
I, ARE WE MOVING ON TO ANOTHER ONE OF THEIR COMMENTS? UM, SURE.
I THINK JUST OPEN, OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
I STARTED OUT WITH, WITH THAT COMMITTEE AGAIN WITH THE REFORM ISSUE, BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WAS THE, THE BIG THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, BUT YES, AS I TOLD RICHARD, THIS IS OPEN TO WHATEVER RECOMMENDATIONS.
NUMBER FOUR, WITH THE, UM, DIVERSITY TRAINING, COUPLE THINGS CAME TO MIND.
I UNDERSTAND WE CAN DICTATE STAFF GOING THROUGH A DIVERSITY EDUCATION PROGRAM AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I HAD TO DO THAT AT THE COUNTY AND EVERYTHING, BUT WITH OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS BEING VOLUNTEERS, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY HARD TO REQUIRE THEM.
IT COULD BE RECOMMENDED, BUT I THINK IT'D BE VERY HARD TO REQUIRE THEM.
I THINK WE WOULD LOSE SOME POTENTIAL VOLUNTEERS BY PUTTING THE REQUIREMENT DOWN.
UM, AND ALSO WITH THE DIVERSITY TRAINING, I WOULD LIKE TO BE DIVERSITY OF ALL THINGS, BECAUSE WORKING WITH PEOPLE WITHIN DISABILITIES FOR 30 YEARS, THAT'S A POPULATION THAT PEOPLE OFTEN GET DISCRIMINATED AGAINST AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO IF WE DO GO THROUGH THAT TRAINING, I WOULD REALLY LIKE IT TO BE VERY DIVERSE IN WHAT THE TRAINING IS.
I THINK, UM, I TELL YOU, WE'D HAD SOME DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE, WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF THIS STUFF IN THE CITY SYSTEM FOR TRAINING FOR OUR EMPLOYEES ALREADY.
SO I THINK WE JUST COULD JUST BE A WAY OF MAKING SURE THAT, THAT THERE'S, IF IT'S COMPUTER BASED LEARNING THROUGH MODULES, I MEAN, LOOK, I KNOW THAT THE COMMISSION'S DID A GREAT JOB, BRINGING SOME EXPERTS IN AND WE'VE HAD LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS AND TALKS AND UH, PEOPLE SHUT UP TO THOSE.
BUT IF WE HAVE LIKE, LOOK, AMANDA WAS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, EV I GET, I GET A NOTICE FROM THE HR DIRECTOR EVERY TIME I KNOW THERE'S A, THERE'S A TRAIN MODULE THAT I'VE EITHER MISSED OR SOMETHING COMES UP AND I GET AN EMAIL THAT SAYS, HEY, YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, SEVEN DAYS TO MAKE SURE YOU MAKE SURE YOU GO THROUGH THIS.
AND IT'S STUFF THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, I KNOW EVERYBODY'S TRIED TO, CAN'T JUST CLICK THROUGH IT MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW IF YOU TAKE YOU 30 SECONDS TO WATCH, YOU KNOW, A 20 MINUTE VIDEO.
SO, UM, SO I KNOW THAT IF WE HAVE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AVAILABLE IN THE CITY, THEN I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MAKING SURE WE'RE HAVING THE CHECKLIST SYSTEM THROUGH HR THAT PEOPLE ARE FOLLOWING THROUGH AND DOING THAT.
SO CAN YOU TAKE THAT? YEAH, EXACTLY.
UH, I JUST HAD A CONVERSATION WITH KATIE, OUR HR DIRECTOR TODAY ABOUT THAT VERY ISSUE.
UM, WE WERE DISCUSSING THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME WAYS THAT WE COULD TALK TO HOW SOME OF THE TRAINING FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, IN WITH, UH, THE TRAINING FOR STAFF.
UM, WE TALKED ABOUT IN-PERSON TRAINING.
WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, RECORDING THE TRAINING SESSIONS AND MAKING THOSE AVAILABLE SO PEOPLE COULD WATCH THEM ONLINE.
EVEN USING THIS FACILITY HERE TO POSSIBLY, UH, RECORD, UH, TRAINING THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE.
AND WE COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, USE THE EQUIPMENT WE HAVE IN HERE TO RECORD IT AND SAVE IT, UM, AND EVEN LIVE, STREAM IT TO, UH, OTHER CITY UNITS OR PEOPLE, UH, WATCHING AT HOME WHERE THEY COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, GET IT IN DIFFERENT TYPES OF FORMATS.
I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY POSSIBLE, UH, TO DO, UM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU MENTIONED, WE ALREADY HAVE FOR CITY STAFF PRETTY WELL DEVELOPED SYSTEM OF, UH, DIVERSITY TRAINING IN PLACE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, COVID CERTAINLY IMPACTED THAT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT I THINK WE'RE GETTING BACK TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO START DOING SOME OF THESE MORE ROUTINE THINGS AND INTEGRATING AMANDA THINGS.
SO, UM, I, I THINK KATIE AND I HAVE A HANDLE ON THAT AND WHEN I HAVE SOMETHING TO PROVIDE MORE SUBSTANTIAL, UH, IN A REPORT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
THANKS GLENN, DID YOU HAVE, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE DID YOU EVER WAS TO ACHIEVE? OKAY.
ANYBODY HAVING OTHER DISCUSSION POINTS? YEAH.
THE ONLY OTHER DISCUSSION POINT I HAVE, WHICH I THINK WAS A BIG ONE FOR THE COMMITTEE,
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AND IT'S BEEN A BIG ONE FOR ME FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW IS, UH, THE UTILIZATION OF OUR WEB WEBSITE AND CITI APP.UM, NOT JUST WITH THIS COMMISSION, I THINK WITH ALL OF OUR COMMISSIONS, WITH ALL OF OUR CITY OPERATIONS, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, UPDATING, REHANDLING REDOING OUR WEBSITE TO MAKE IT MORE, USER-FRIENDLY MORE INVITING WHERE WE CAN CELEBRATE A LOT OF THOSE UNKNOWN SUCCESSES FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, OR WE CAN CELEBRATE AND EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY PROPERLY ON A SNOW EVENT FROM THE, FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, JUST A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY'VE TOUCHED ON IT WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
I THINK WE, AS A COUNCIL NEED TO MOVE A LITTLE BIT MORE QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY ON THAT.
UM, BECAUSE I, I THINK WE'RE, I TRULY BELIEVE WE AS A CITY ARE DROPPING THE BALL AND COMMUNICATING WITH OUR RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, ELECTRONICALLY MAKING SURE THAT THE INFORMATION IS AT PEOPLE'S FINGERTIPS.
UM, AND, UH, I THINK WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB.
UH, RICHARD, I'M NOT GOING TO DISAGREE WITH YOU.
UM, WELL LOOK, I'LL JUST BE FRANK HERE.
UM, THE, THE WEBSITE I THINK HAS NEEDED A LOT OF ATTENTION FOR A LONG TIME.
UM, IT WAS BROUGHT UP, TALKED ABOUT, WE GOT A, WE GOT A REVAMPED WEBSITE, A NEW WEBSITE.
I KNOW THE RESTRAINTS THAT WE'RE UNDER RIGHT NOW FROM AGAIN SURE.
RESOURCES, BUT I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOK, IF THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO AND IS WILLING TO SPEND THE MONEY AND WHATEVER IT COST TO HIRE A PROFESSIONAL FIRM THAT WOULD DESIGN US A TOP-NOTCH WEB SYSTEM.
I MEAN, I THINK THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT INTEGRATING, UM, WE KEPT THE FORMAT OF THE OLD SYSTEM AND JUST REVAMPED IT BECAUSE IT, THAT COMPANY MATCHED WITH THE APP, UM, THAT GLEN BROUGHT FORWARD.
SO THAT SEEMED LIKE THAT WAS GOING TO BE A GOOD IDEA AT THE TIME, BECAUSE IT WOULD JUST INTEGRATE THE TWO.
BUT I AGREE, I THINK THE OVERALL LOOK AND FEEL AND USABILITY AND JUST THE WAY IT LOOKS I'VE SEEN.
I MEAN, LIKE ALL OF YOU, I'M SURE I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT CITIES WEBSITES, AND I THINK OURS IS, UM, I WOULD JUST SAY SUBPAR AT BEST, BUT I KNOW WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE DEALT WITH IT AND DONE THE BEST THAT WE CAN, BUT WE'VE NEVER PROVIDED SPECIFIC ACTION TO TELL STAFF WHAT IS IT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT WE WANT THAT TO BE.
SO, UH, I DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE AND SAY THAT I WANT, I'M GOING TO LOOK AT A COMMISSION AND TELL THEM TO GIVE US WHAT, WHAT THEY WANT.
UM, BUT THEN NOT SAY AS A COUNCIL, WE CAN'T GIVE STAFF THE SAME DIRECTION THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE IN CITY WEBSITE AND THE APP AND ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION.
SO I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR DOING WHATEVER WE GOTTA DO TO HAVE THIS COMPLETE, A COMPLETE NEW LOOK ON ALL OUR CITY ELECTRIC AND MARILYN.
I BRING THAT UP FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT IT IS MY RECOLLECTION, UM, THAT THIS COUNCIL PASSED, UM, GUIDANCE TO STAFF.
AND I BELIEVE THE THIRD PARTY VENDOR TO DO JUST THAT.
AND IT WAS NOT DONE TO PAR THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
UM, I TRULY BELIEVE WE NEED TO PULL THAT LEGISLATION.
WE NEED TO PULL THAT USER AGREEMENT WITH THE VENDOR THAT WE, THAT WE APPROVED THIS COUNCIL APPROVED ALONG WITH THE CITI APP AND MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE AGREED FOR THE TAX DOLLARS WE PUT FORWARD TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, THAT WE ARE GETTING THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK.
AND WE'RE GETTING WHAT W THIS COUNCIL APPROVED.
UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE STEP ONE, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION.
UH, I'M NOT IN DISAGREEMENT WITH THAT AT ALL.
SO I DON'T THINK IT WAS LEGISLATION, BUT I DO THINK THERE WAS SOME DIRECTION GIVEN THROUGH SOME OF THE COUNCIL WORK SESSIONS OR COUNSELING.
AND I KNOW THERE WAS SOME AGREEMENTS WITH SOME OF THE THIRD PARTY VENDORS, UH, APPLE, ANDROID, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, CIVIC PLUS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, REDOING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I WORKED, UH, I WORKED A LOT WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH ROBIN AND SCOTT DURING THOSE TIMES TO MOVE THAT FORWARD WITH THE INFORMATION WE GOT BACK FROM NLC.
UM, SO I THINK THAT STEP ONE IS WE NEED TO REVIEW THOSE AGREEMENTS.
ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH RICHARD? I'LL TAKE THAT ONE.
ALL RIGHT, TONY, APPRECIATE IT.
I THINK BRIAN, AND THEN I'LL COME BACK TO HERE.
DO YOU ANYTHING YOU HAVE BRIAN.
SO I THINK THAT FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE, THEY'RE MAYBE FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE, THERE MAY BE A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE EXPECTATION THAT COUNCIL HAS OF WHAT THE WEBSITE CAN DO VERSUS WHAT THE WEBSITE SHOULD DO VERSUS WHAT THE WEBSITE IS DOING.
AND THOSE AREN'T ALL THE SAME.
AND A PRIME EXAMPLE IS EVERY TIME THAT THERE'S A COMMISSION WHO COMES IN AND SAYS, HEY, WE'VE GOT A REALLY GREAT IDEA.
WE'VE GOT A REALLY GREAT THING.
LET'S PUT IT RIGHT ON THE WEBSITE PAGE.
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WHAT ARE WE CYCLING OFF OF THE PAGE TO MAKE ROOM, TO PUT ON WHATEVER THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE IS.AND EVERY TIME THAT WE MAKE A CHANGE AND EVERY TIME THAT WE MAKE A CYCLE, ARE WE GETTING AWAY FROM WHAT IT IS THAT THE CITIZENS OR THE WEB USERS ARE ACTUALLY COMING TO THE PAGE TO VIEW? AND IF WE LOOK AT WHERE THE INFORMATION IS TELLING US WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING, THEY'RE NOT REALLY COMING TO THE WEBSITE TO FIND OUT WHY THE TORNADO SIRENS GOING OFF.
THEY'RE REALLY NOT COMING TO THE WEBSITE TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, UM, MOST OTHER PIECES OF INFORMATION.
WE WANT THEM TO COME TO THE WEBSITE TO LOOK WHERE THEY'RE COMING TO THE WEBSITE TO FIND OUT, ARE WE EMPLOYING AND HOW DO THEY GET AN APPLICATION THEY'RE COMING TO THE WEBSITE TO FIND OUT WHAT TIME IS THE AQUATIC CENTER OPEN AND HOW MUCH DOES IT COST? AND THEY'RE COMING TO WATCH THE MEETINGS.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THE INFORMATION IS TELLING US.
AND FROM THE LIMITED EXPERIENCE I HAD WORKING ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, YES, THERE WAS A DESIRE AND A DEMAND TO HAVE THE APP FUNCTION IN A PARTICULAR WAY TO HELP US REPORT INFORMATION AND HOW THAT INFORMATION WAS INTEGRATED.
IN MY UNDERSTANDING, AS I RECALL CORRECTLY, WAS, UH, WE WERE EFFECTIVELY A BETA GROUP IF WE WILL.
SO THERE WASN'T A CHARGE ASSOCIATED WITH UTILIZING THE APP BECAUSE THE APP PROVIDER WAS ALSO THE WEBSITE PROVIDER, AND THAT WAS HOW THAT WAS WORKING.
AND SO THE APP WAS TO INTEGRATE INTO THE WEBSITE.
AND SO THE, THOSE TWO FUNCTIONS WERE NOT HAPPENING APPROPRIATELY ON THE END USER OR OCB BY THE VENDOR.
AND FROM THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO INTEGRATE AND MARRIAGE AND PUT OUT ON THE WEBSITE WAS INFORMATION THAT WAS DIFFICULT FOR US TO MANAGE BECAUSE WE HAD TO MANUALLY TOUCH IT AND SEE IT AND FEEL IT TO KEEP IT UPDATED.
BUT IT WASN'T THE INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE WERE COMING TO THE WEBSITE TO LOOK FOR.
I RECOGNIZE YOUR FRUSTRATION BECAUSE I, AND OTHER MEMBERS OF SENIOR STAFF WORK TO DO THAT FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.
AND NO MATTER WHAT WE DID IT DIDN'T GENERATE AN END PRODUCT THAT WE WANTED EITHER.
WE'RE NOT SATISFIED WITH HOW THAT PRODUCT WORKS EITHER.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF COUNCIL IS DISSATISFIED WITH THE WEBSITE, AND IF IT'S NOT FUNCTIONING THE WAY THAT COUNCIL WANTS IT TO FUNCTION, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE BEST THING THAT COUNCIL COULD DO IS DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT IT TO DO.
HAVE A TALK WITH APPROPRIATE CONSULTANTS ABOUT WHAT WEBSITES ARE DOING AND PROVIDE YOU WITH A PRESENTATION AND A PROPOSAL TO BUILD THE WEBSITE THAT IS MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY OR THE WANTS OF THE END-USER AS CLOSE AS THAT CAN RELATE TO WHAT COUNCIL WANTS.
THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION RATHER THAN CONTINUE TO BEAT A HORSE THAT ISN'T GOING TO GET UP AND CARRY US WHERE WE NEED TO GO.
UM, BRIAN SORTA HIT ON WHAT THE REAL ISSUE IS THAT IT WAS NOT BUILT FOR THE USER.
UM, AND I TALKED TO TONY ABOUT THIS.
UM, IF I HAVE TO COME TO HIM TO HELP FIND SOMETHING, THEN THE WEBSITE ISN'T WORKING, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, IF YOU WANT AN EXAMPLE, I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO JUST KIND OF DISPUTE, UM, WHAT BRIAN SAID RIGHT THERE.
UM, MY HUSBAND AND I BUILT WEBSITES FOR 10 YEARS AND PEOPLE DON'T PEOPLE THAT COME TO YOU WITH THEIR PRODUCT, DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT.
YOU HAVE TO USE YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE AND FORMULATE A CONCEPT AND SEE IF IT MEETS WHAT THEY NEED.
AND I CAN TELL YOU, QUITE FRANKLY, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT AN OUTSTANDING WEBSITE, GO TO CENTERVILLE, WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP, THAT LINKS INTO EVERYTHING.
THAT'S THE BEST ONE IN THE WHOLE AREA.
AND IF YOU, IF YOU WERE TO CONSULT, UH, TO HIRE A CONSULTANT, A, UM, UH, A WEB DESIGN COMPANY AND SHOW THEM THAT WEBSITE AND SAY, THIS IS THE STRUCTURE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HERE, THEN THAT'S ALL THEY NEED.
I MEAN, YOU AND ME AND, AND, AND, AND RICHARD AND, AND ANITA, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T TELL THE CITY WHAT WE WANT, BECAUSE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAY, WELL, THIS, THIS LOOKS POOR AND THIS WAS OKAY.
AND WE'VE SAT THROUGH TWO, MAYBE THREE WEB UPGRADES
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IN THE SIX YEARS WE'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.AND NONE OF THEM HAVE REACHED THE LEVEL OF WHAT I CALL PROFESSIONALISM THAT, UM, AND USEFULNESS, WHICH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, USEFULNESS THAT I HAD EVER ANTICIPATED, UM, YOU KNOW, TO SEE AS A CITY.
AND SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, UM, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT STARTING POINT.
AND THEN THEY WILL, THEY WILL GET WITH STAFF AND, UM, IT, THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED, WHAT KIND OF THINGS, HOW WE WANTED IT INTEGRATED KIND OF STUFF.
SO AS THE, I WOULD ASSUME THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE APPS TO USE THAT TIE WITH THEIR WEBSITE.
SO, I MEAN, I, I MEAN, LOOK, I, I, AT ONE POINT AS CRAZY OF AN IDEA, AS IT SEEMS, I ASKED ONE OF THE PHARMACY MANAGERS, CAN YOU SCROLL TO THE BOTTOM OF THE WEBSITE AND FIND OUT WHO MADE THAT ONE AND THEN JUST CALL THEM? I MEAN, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT SEEMED LIKE THAT WOULD BE A VERY SIMPLE PROCESS.
SO, UM, BUT IF, BUT AT THE APP INTEGRATION, CAUSE I REMEMBER THAT WAS, THAT WAS A REALLY BIG DEAL WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT THE TIME WAS MAKING SURE THAT THE APP THAT WE WANTED INTEGRATED AND THEN IT WAS, WELL, THE COMPANY THAT WE HAVE WITH THE WEBSITE NOW IS THE SAME COMPANY DOES THE APP.
SO THIS IS HOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THIS.
AND THAT STILL SEEMED LIKE A FOUR OR FIVE MONTH PROCESS.
SO, UM, AND A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THESE COMPANIES ARE GOBBLING UP OTHER COMPANIES.
SO FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, UH, I DON'T KNOW, WORKER DUDE HAS AN APP THAT YOU CAN REPORT A POTHOLE ON AND IT'S HOT AND EVERYBODY'S BUYING IT.
AND SO CIVICA COMES ALONG AND BUYS WORKER, DUDE.
AND NOW IT'S WORKER DUDE BY CIVICA AND THEY'RE TWO PLATFORMS DON'T TALK AND THEY'RE SO NEW AND THEY'RE ADVERTISING, HEY, WE OWN THIS AND WE CAN INTEGRATE THIS AND THIS'LL BE GREAT.
WELL, GREAT, WELL, WE'LL BUY THAT.
WELL, THEY STILL HAVEN'T WRITTEN THE LANGUAGE TO ENSURE THAT THEY COMMUNICATE AND WORK BACK AND FORTH.
AND WHILE THEY'RE BUSY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE WORKER DUDE INTEGRATE.
NOW THEY COME ACROSS ZONING LADY AND HEY, WE'RE GOING TO BUY THE ZONING LADY APP SO EVERYBODY CAN REPORT THE TALL GRASS.
AND THEN THEY DON'T COMMUNICATE THE APPS, DON'T COMMUNICATE WITH ONE ANOTHER AND THEY DON'T COMMUNICATE WITH THE PLATFORM ON WHICH THE WEBSITE IS.
AND THAT'S WHY WE KEEP RUNNING INTO PROBLEMS. AND THEY'RE JUST, THESE ACQUISITIONS ARE HAPPENING SO FAST AND THEY'RE BECOMING LARGER, LARGER TYLER TECHNOLOGIES IS GROWING AS THE, THE PROVIDER OF EASE SOLUTIONS FOR GUT, FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE RUNNING INTO A LOT OF PROBLEMS. AND I MEAN GOOD FOR THEM FOR BEING ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY DO, BUT THEY'RE GROWING SO FAST.
IT'S MAKING THE INTEGRATION OF ALL THESE VARIOUS SYSTEMS, VERY DIFFICULT TO WORK EFFECTIVELY.
AND THAT'S WHERE STAFF IS GETTING FRUSTRATED.
THAT'S WHERE YOU, AS COUNSELORS GETTING FRUSTRATED, THAT'S WHERE THE CITIZENS ARE GETTING, JUST BECAUSE THE INTEGRATION CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THE ACQUISITIONS.
AND BRIAN, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, UM, THERE WAS ALSO THE BACKEND COMPONENT THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, IF THERE WAS A GEO TRACKING, YOU KNOW, FOR PUBLIC WORKS FOR A POTHOLE OR ENGINEERING FOR A LIGHT THAT THAT WORK ORDER ON THE BACK END WOULD BE FUNNELED DOWN THROUGH A STAFF LEVEL AND BE TRACKED PROPERLY.
SO THERE WAS A LOT OF THOSE OTHER WORKING COMPONENTS THAT WAS IN THE INTEGRATION OF THE APP, OUTSIDE OF THE CITY WEBSITE AS WELL, THAT WAS GOING THROUGH, UM, AND TAKING PLACE.
UM, I, I DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH BRIAN'S ASSESSMENT, YOU KNOW, UM, I'M AT THE POINT RIGHT NOW, I SAY WE SHUT DOWN THE BETA APP, WE SHUT DOWN THE WEBSITE, WE GET A WHOLE NEW, UM, YOU KNOW, PRESENTATION AND LET'S GO FROM THERE.
BUT I STILL THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR CURRENT VENDOR LIST AND IF WE'RE NOT GETTING WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING FOR, THEN I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A DISCUSSION THERE.
UM, BUT I KNOW, YOU KNOW, FROM THOSE DISCUSSIONS YEARS AGO, I KNOW A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY HAS CHANGED.
A LOT OF COMPANIES HAVE, YOU KNOW, INTEGRATED AND BOUGHT IN, UM, WHERE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WILL ALSO MAKE IT EASIER ON A STAFF PERSPECTIVE IF THAT HAPPENS TO THE WEBSITE IS DONE RIGHT.
AND THAT BACK END REPORTING ON WORK ORDERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE ARE DONE.
I THINK THAT ONLY HELPS OUT THE DIRECTORS AS WELL.
UM, SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT POSSIBILITIES CITYWIDE ON THAT.
AND I, I BELIEVE BRIAN, THAT WAS ONE OF THE PARTS THAT YOU WERE WORKING ON THERE AS WELL.
SO I THINK SO WITHOUT KNOWING, WITHOUT STAFF KNOWING WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS, IT'S GOING TO BE IMPOSSIBLE TO GET WHAT WE WANT.
BUT I ALSO AGREE, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE EIGHT OF US TO SET UP HERE AND BE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WEBSITES GOING, OH, I LIKE THIS.
AND LIKE THIS ONE, BECAUSE ALL THE AGREEMENTS OF ALL THE DIFFERENT PARTS AND PIECES NEED TO BE IN, WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WOULD NEVER, WE WOULD TAKE A YEAR, WE'D STILL BE TALKING ABOUT IT.
SO I THINK, UM, THAT THAT'S, WHAT WE'VE GOT TO DO IS WE'VE GOT TO FIND A GOOD ONE.
AND I THINK, I THINK STAFF HAS AN IDEA OF WHAT THE EXPECTATION
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IS OF HOW IT WOULD WORK.I'M COMFORTABLE GIVING STAFF THE DIRECTION TO SAY, FIND US A VENDOR THAT DOES X.
AND IF THE APP DOESN'T TALK YET, BUT WE KNOW THAT IT'S COMING.
I WOULDN'T WANT THAT TO STOP US FROM GETTING A TOP QUALITY WEBSITE DONE, KNOWING THAT THERE'S INTEGRATION COMING OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS.
BUT, BUT YEAH, I THINK SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, THAT IS, THAT'S A DIRECTION TO GO.
UM, TONY, IF YOU CAN FIND WHAT THE DISCUSSIONS, THE LEGISLATION THAT RICHARD'S TALKING ABOUT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE ARE NOT PAYING FOR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING PAYING FOR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING THE SERVICES.
THAT CERTAINLY IS A GOOD IDEA TO OD THAT.
BUT I THINK MOVING FORWARD ON FINDING I'D BE INTERESTED.
I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THEIR WEBSITE SPECIFICALLY, UM, NANCY, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP, I MIGHT BE HAPPY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE TO BRIAN, IF YOU WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ONE AND, UH, MAYBE EVERYBODY DOES.
OR IF, IF EVERYBODY HAS AN IDEA, I'VE SEEN A CITY WEBSITE THAT YOU LIKE THE WAY IT LOOKS, THE STRUCTURE WE HAD SET UP, MAYBE GET THAT IN AN EMAIL, UM, TO ALL OF US.
SO ALL OF US CAN TAKE A LOOK AND THEN JUST SEE MAYBE WHAT WE THINK SOME OF OUR TOP ONES LOOK LIKE.
AND THEN JUST, AND THEN JUST GO FROM THERE.
I SHOULD PROBABLY SEND IT TO ONE PERSON AND PART OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WEBSITES.
SORRY, I'M BREAKING THE RULES.
UM, I'D SAY AS FAR AS THE WEBSITE GOES, IT'S, IT'S UTILITARIAN.
UM, IT'S NOT THE GREATEST, BUT I DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH TROUBLE DYSFUNCTIONAL.
UM, YEAH, IT DOES WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO.
I THINK THE, THE APP IS MORE IMPORTANT IN THIS DAY AND AGE THOUGH.
I THINK MORE PEOPLE USE THIS THAN THIS RIGHT NOW TO GET THAT QUICK INFORMATION.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO FOCUS ON AND YOU KNOW, THE PROVIDER THAT DOES THE APP OR THE PROVIDER THAT DOES THE WEBPAGE BECAUSE THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE PROVIDERS, VERY CLOSE ONE CIVIC PLUS ONE'S MY CIVIC.
AND ROB, BECAUSE WE WERE WITH CIVIC PLUS FOUR WEBPAGE, AND I THINK ROB LOOKED AT CIVIC PLUSES, UH, UH, APP AS WELL AND CAME BACK AND SAID, WELL, THE, MY CIVIC APP LOOKS LIKE IT'S A BETTER APP AND ANGRY WHATEVER.
UM, BUT, UH, BUT YEAH, AND I WOULD SAY, WE GO TO THOSE COMPANIES TO SAY, HEY, WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE DO TO MAKE SURE THIS TOUGH SINKED UP FLOWING PROPERLY, UH, WORKS WELL.
I MEAN, I'M SURE THEY DEAL WITH A LOT OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD PROBABLY, I MEAN, THOSE ARE TWO, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY FREE RESOURCES TO JUST ASK ABOUT, I MEAN, IF NOTHING ELSE THEY'RE GOING TO THINK, OOH, WE'RE GOING TO SNATCH THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS PIECE.
SO THEY'RE, I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO BE WILLING TO HELP US, BRIAN, CAN YOU, SO, UM, CAN YOU KIND OF TAKE IT, I THINK YOU, YOU KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
UM, I'M NOT SAYING AT MONDAY'S MEETING OR EVEN THE NEXT WORK SESSION, YOU NEED A FULL STAFF REPORT ON IT, BUT SOMETIME WITHIN THE NEXT 30 TO 45 DAYS, HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHAT OUR OPTIONS MIGHT BE AND HOW WE CAN LOOK TO MOVE FORWARD.
IF THAT'S SOME TYPE TIMEFRAME, IS THERE A REAL OKAY WITH THAT? OKAY, GOOD.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TRAILER ITEM AND, AND MAYOR? I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT, UH, MAYBE, UH, YOURSELF OR TONY REACHED BACK OUT TO THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY CITIZENS ACTION COMMISSION AND LET THEM KNOW THAT COUNCIL HAS TAKEN THIS ON THIS WEBSITE, UH, THIS WEBPAGE LAYOUT.
UM, AND, UH, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON THIS, UM, SO THAT THEY KNOW THAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE NOT FALLEN ON DEAF EARS.
UM, AND OUTSIDE OF THAT TO CIRCLE ALL THE WAY BACK AROUND, WE NEED SOME INITIAL INFORMATION FROM THEM ON SOME OTHER WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT.
[ Purchase of New Snowplow Dump Trucks]
UM, NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE E, WHICH IS THE PURCHASE OF THE NEW SNOWPLOW DUMP TRUCKS.I'M ASSUMING THIS IS YOURS CHIEF.
AND THEN, ALL RIGHT, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
THIS IS FOR PURCHASE OF TWO NEW, UM, SNOWPLOWED DUMP TRUCKS.
UM, YOU'LL SEE HERE SOMETHING THAT'S, UM, KIND OF UNRECOGNIZABLE AND PASS LEGISLATION IS THE, UM, THE, THE VENDOR NOT BEING IDENTIFIED.
UM, USUALLY WE DO A LOT FOR STATE BID FOR THIS, UH, PARTICULAR TYPE OF ITEMS AND DOING DUE TO THE MARKET OF, UM, SOME, UM, I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT IT'S SOME COVID THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITH, UM, PURCHASING OF VEHICLES AND, UM, THE OUTFITTING OF THESE PARTICULAR TYPE OF VEHICLES.
SOMETIMES THESE THINGS ARE NOW, UM, I CHECKED WITH, YOU KNOW, PARTICULAR
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VENDORS THAT WE USUALLY BUY THESE THINGS FROM AND PURCHASED, AND THEY CAN'T GUARANTEE A DELIVERY DATE IF YOU WERE TODAY FROM A YEAR TO NOW TWO 16 MONTHS FROM NOW.UM, SO SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE KIND OF LEFT IN THE HANDS OF JUST TRYING TO FIND THE BEST BIDDER AND THEY CAN'T GUARANTEE A PRICE FOR UP TO 30 DAYS.
SO IF WE WERE TO AWARD TODAY, THAT PRICE MIGHT BE, MIGHT CHANGE BY THE TIME WE WERE ABLE TO ORDER.
SO LEGISLATIVELY WISE, THAT'S WHY IT'S KIND OF WRITTEN AS, AS UNKNOWING.
UM, BUT, UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AT THIS TIME.
I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING THAT THIS IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
SO, UM, BEYOND JUST SAYING THANKS FOR THE GREAT WORK YOU GUYS DID OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS, UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF SNOW.
ANY, UM, ANY DISCUSSION? YES, RICHARD, THANK YOU.
UM, JERRY, CAN YOU CLARIFY SECTION TWO OF THE RESOLUTION? I BELIEVE, UH, UH, MR. GRAY WAS GOING INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT ON HOW THAT READS WITH THE QUESTION MORE, ET CETERA, AND PUT IT IN THERE.
WELL, IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, WE ARE SEEKING TO PURCHASE THE TUNE, GET THE AUTHORIZATION TO PURCHASE THE TWO, AND THEN ONCE WE GET THE GOOD BID PRICE FOR IT, WE WOULD INSERT WHOEVER THAT BIDDER IS IN HERE.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE PASSING LEGISLATION WITH QUESTION MARKS ON IT THAT MONDAY WE ARE PASSING THE, NO, WHAT YOU SAID, WHAT I JUST SAID.
AS LONG AS WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.
UM, AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR, FOR YOU, MR. GRAY, UM, WITH THE, UM, WITH THE POTENTIAL PURCHASE OF THESE TWO, UM, UH, SNOWPLOWED DUMP TRUCKS, UM, WILL YOU BE PUTTING, UM, ANY, UM, UH, OF YOUR CURRENT EQUIPMENT, UH, UM, UPCOMING INTO, UM, UH, TO GOV DEALS OUT AT THIS TIME? SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, DO YOU FEEL YOU HAVE ADEQUATE SPACE CURRENTLY FOR THESE TWO PIECES OF EQUIPMENT TO NOT BE OUTSIDE IN THE WEATHER WITH YOUR CURRENT SURPLUS OF EQUIPMENT? NOT AT THIS TIME.
MA'AM AND I THINK WE'RE WAITING FOR RECOMMENDATION ON SOME DETAILS FOR A NEW PUBLIC WORKS.
UM, AND AGAIN, I'VE MADE THE STATEMENT BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.
UH, I THINK WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, STOP TALKING ABOUT THAT AND, AND PUT A LITTLE ACTION ON THAT.
UM, I MEAN, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING, YOU KNOW, A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS POTENTIALLY INTO TWO DUMP TRUCKS, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE SURPLUS A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT'S CURRENTLY SITTING OUTSIDE.
UM, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, AGING QUICK, QUICKLY, BECAUSE IT'S NOT BEING HOUSED PROPERLY.
UM, BRIAN D IS THERE ANY UPDATE AT ALL, AT LEAST ON A TIMELINE OF WHEN WE MIGHT HAVE SOME TYPE OF RECOMMENDATION FOR OTHER THAN FORWARD TO THAT? YEAH.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS, UH, NOW, UH, WITH RESPECT TO PROPERTY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, LOOKING AT THE VALUE OF, UM, THESE PROPERTIES AND, UH, HOW THEY CAN RELATE TO EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT, UH, MIKE AND HIS TEAM NEED.
AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT WITHIN THE NEXT 60 TO 90 DAYS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON LOCATION AND STEPS FORWARD.
SO WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THIS BEHIND THE SCENES.
UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT THE PRIORITY IT COULD BE, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES, BUT WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK ON IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS OR, UM, FROM LIKE, SO YOU WOULD UNLIKELY NOT HAVE THIS FOR MONDAY BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION PRIOR TO THE DATE TO PUT IT INTO THE PACKET.
WELL, I'M SORRY, TONY, WHAT'D YOU SAY? UM, YOU'RE NOT LIKELY TO HAVE THE, THE BID OR INFORMATION OR MOUNTS, UH, YOU KNOW, AND BY MORROW TO HAVE THIS IN THE PACKET.
SO NO, JUST, I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
WE'LL MOVE THAT REPRESENTATIVELY, WHY I HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING PERMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SEEKING THE BIDS.
SO IT'S KIND OF A SAME THING WITH THIS OTHER LEGISLATION THAN ABOUT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT KIND OF SIMILAR AREAS OF WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.
SO WHERE WOULD WE, HOW WOULD THIS LOOK AT MONDAY THEN KIND OF THE, THE YES.
TO THE, AND I WAS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
ARE YOU ASKING TO GO OUT FOR BED? YES, HERE'S THE PROBLEM TOO.
I GO OUT TO BED AND USUALLY WE'D COME BACK OR ASKED TO AWARD BID LATER.
RIGHT? I COULD, WE COULD DO THAT.
AND THEN THEY NOT BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO AWARD THAT PRICE BECAUSE SOME OF THE UPFITTERS THAT I'M GOING TO DEAL WITH, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BASICALLY HONOR THAT PRICE FOR 30 DAYS.
SO THAT BY THE TIME I GET THE BIDS, IT COMES BACK AND THERE WOULD IMPROVE.
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NO LONGER.SO BASICALLY WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO APPROVE OF THE AMOUNT IS OF NOT TO EXCEED 500,000 AT THIS TIME, FOR ME TO GO OUT, TO BID, TO PURCHASE THE TWO, BASICALLY.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU WE'LL WORK IT OUT BETWEEN JERRY AND I AM.
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND IT'S A LITTLE CONVOLUTED, BUT IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WE USED TO GO WITH THE STATE BID PRICING.
SOMETIMES THAT'S NOT THE BEST ANYMORE FOR DELIVERY OR PRICE NOW BECAUSE OF THE VOLATILE MARKET THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW WITH METAL PRICES AND UPFITTING PRICES OF THESE TRUCKS IS BASICALLY ORDERED CHASSIS FROM THE YEAR YOU GET UPFITTED THERE.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU AND I WOULD GO PURCHASE A TRUCK AND WE'RE GOING TO THIS PERSON TO SAY, WE'RE GETTING THAT TRUCK RIGHT.
IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT WITH, WITH THE UPFITTING OF THIS.
WELL, WE'LL GET IT WORKED OUT OUTSIDE.
THERE'S NO NEED TO SPEND TIME ON THAT.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT TO MONDAY THEN? OKAY.
[ Traffic Signals/Decorative Lighting - Maintenance/Repair/Construction - Solicit Bids/Award Contract]
F TRAFFIC SIGNALS, DECORATIVE LIGHTING, MAINTENANCE, REPAIR, CONSTRUCTION, SOLICIT BIDS, AND AWARD CONTRACT.YEAH, BASICALLY THIS IS, UM, LET'S SAY, UM, JUST REGULAR LEGISLATION THAT WE DO EVERY THREE OR FOUR YEARS THROUGH A CONTRACT FOR TRAFFIC MAINTENANCE, UM, AND, UM, REPAIR FOR ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC INTERSECTIONS.
UM, BASICALLY IT'S A, NOT TO EXCEED OF AMOUNT OF $50,000 PER YEAR.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN IT HAS BEEN IN YEARS PREVIOUS BECAUSE IT WAS 35, UM, TO DO SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME LABOR INFLATIONARY RATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I'VE RAISED THAT AMOUNT IN CONSIDERATION OF WHAT THE BIDS MAY OR MAY NOT BE.
IT'S KIND OF A, UM, ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE THERE.
UM, SO BASICALLY IT'S JUST, LIKE I SAID, IT'S MORE OF AN ANNUAL THREE OR FOUR YEAR RENEWAL.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE THIS LEGISLATION LEGISLATIONS TO IS TO, IS TO SOLICIT BIDS, CORRECT.
AND AWARD, BECAUSE THE ANNUAL AMOUNT WOULDN'T BE TO EXCEED THE 50 THAT EXCEEDS FOR THE, THE SAME LEGISLATION TO AWARD, TO, TO SOLICIT AND AWARD.
I MEAN, THE ISSUE HERE IS I THINK GENERALLY COUNSEL IS ASKED TO SEE LEGISLATION TO GO OUT TO BED AND THEN THEY WANTED TO SEE THE BITS BEFORE THE CONTRACT WAS AWARDED MIKE SAYING IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES SOMETIMES, UH, BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINE, UM, AND GETTING THE, UH, THE BED OR THE HOLD TO THE CONTRACT PRICE, UH, THAT THERE'S A SHORT TURNAROUND TIME THAT THEY'RE SEEKING TO, UH, GET AUTHORIZATION FOR THE BIDDING AND THE AWARDING OF THE CONTRACT.
GLENN, I'M JUST CURIOUS MY QUESTION ON THIS ONE, IS THIS A, WOULD THIS BE A SINGLE EXPENDITURE TO ONE ENTITY OR IS THIS A 50,000 THAT YOU HAVE THERE WHERE WHEN YOU NEED TO PULL MONIES TO REPLACE FIXED, IT'S BASICALLY THE AWARD FOR A PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR FOR THREE-YEAR PERIOD.
FOR CONTRACTUAL SERVICES RELATED TO TRAFFIC MAINTENANCE AND COULD COME OUT OVER TIME, OR WOULD IT BE SURE YOU HAVE A LIGHT OUT AT 2 0 1, 2, 2, OR, YOU KNOW, THIS AREA FITCHBURG, THEY COME IN AND THEY FIX IT.
WE SPEND ANNUALLY THIS X AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THIS PARTICULAR, BUT THEY GET PAID AS THEY DO EACH THING FROM THIS JUST PUTS THE MONEY IN YOUR POCKET.
AND IT'S SMALLER EXPENDITURES FROM YOUR END.
YES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BASICALLY THEY'RE BUILT ON A PROCEDURAL BASIS.
ANY OBJECTIONS, MONEY? THANK YOU, MARY.
I'VE GOT NO PROBLEM MOVING THIS LEGISLATION FORWARD, UM, UH, WITH A BID AND AWARD.
UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THE TIMELINE ON THIS, UH, WITH THE AMOUNT MY ONLY REQUEST IS AFTER IT IS, UM, UH, THE SOLICIT BIDS ARE OBTAINED AND THE AWARD IS MADE, UH, THAT, UH, COUNCIL IS NOTIFIED OF WHO THAT IS.
I USED TO MAKE A NOTE OF THAT.
SO ONCE THAT BID'S BEEN AWARDED, IT GETS ITS WAY INTO, UH, INTO A WORK SESSION DISCUSSION WHERE WE'RE NOTIFIED ON WHAT THE AMOUNT WAS AND WHO, ANYTHING ELSE.
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CONTRACTS.
BUT MIKE, I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OR MAINTENANCE.
I HAVE ANXIETY LIVING ON A FARM FOR MANY YEARS OF BEING SNOWED IN FOR THREE WEEKS, WHICH WAS THE BLIZZARD.
BUT ALSO I WANTED TO ASK YOU, I GOT THE LIST OF YOUR PRIORITIES ON THE ONES WHERE IT SAYS RESIDENTIAL AREAS OR SCHOOLS GIVEN A PRIORITY ON THOSE SCHOOL ROADS, GIVEN A PRIORITY ON THAT RESIDENTIAL LIST.
ACTUALLY, IF YOU LOOK INTO PRIORITY ONE AND TWO, ACTUALLY TO, TO EXPLAIN THE PRIORITY LIST, NOT TO GET TOO IN DEPTH HERE, BUT, UM, IT'S BASICALLY A CAPABILITY.
OUR PRIORITIZATION IS BASICALLY 2 1, 2, 2, AND 2 35, AND THEN WE MOVE INTO THE INTERIOR AREAS, BUT THE SCHOOLS, JUST THOSE AREAS AROUND SCHOOLS AND HILLS,
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THERE'S KIND OF SOME AREAS THAT WE KNOW IN DOING THIS FOR SOME TIME THAT WE HAVE TO GET TO BEFOREHAND SCHOOLS ARE GIVEN THAT SOMEWHAT PRIORITY.UM, SO THOSE LISTED ARE NOT, BUT THEY'RE KIND OF LICENSED KIND OF LISTENING IN BETWEEN A TWO AND A THREE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU.
BECAUSE AS WE MOVE INTO DIFFERENT PLACES OR DIFFERENT AREAS, BUS STOPS HILLS, THERE'S KIND OF AREAS THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE TO GET TO BEFOREHAND.
I WAS JUST READING THE LESSON.
I WAS LIKE GOING, I DON'T SEE THE BIRDS TO SCHOOLS AROUND HERE.
AND A LOT OF TIMES WE WORK TOGETHER COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE SCHOOLS THEY GET.
UM, UM, LAST SEASON WE SOLD THEM A PRETREAT.
UM, WE BUILT THEM A PRETREAT APPLICATION.
SO WE KIND OF WORKED COLLABORATIVELY WITH THEM AS WELL.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DEFINITELY IN THAT PRIORITY LIST.
THEY'RE JUST NOT LISTED WITHIN THE CITY.
I KNOW A LOT OF STUDENTS, A LOT OF TEACHERS WOULD APPRECIATE MOVING THAT DOWN ON THE PRIORITY LIST, BUT A LOT OF VOTERS, NO, BUT IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
IT'S A LITTLE, THERE'S SOME GRAY AREA THERE THAT THE PRIORITIZATION PLAYS WITH, BUT BASICALLY IT'S BUILT ON OUR CAPABILITIES TO GET BASICALLY THE EMERGENCY LEVEL OF SNOW, WHICH YOU'VE NOT RECEIVED IN SOME YEARS OF AS THIS MUCH AMOUNT OF SNOW.
I ALWAYS PLANNED FOR 12 INCHES IN 12 HOURS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF, IT'S A BACKWARDS KIND OF PLAN MOVING FORWARD, WHAT I'M CAPABLE TO DO IF EXTREMES CALM.
OH, I'LL PASS IT ONTO THE PEOPLE.
MY GUYS DID A REALLY GOOD JOB AND I'M PRETTY HAPPY WITH THEM.
[ Mowing/Maintenance/Revitalization - Specified City Properties - Solicit Bids/Award Contract]
NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE G, WHICH IS THE MOWING MAINTENANCE REVITALIZATION SPECIFIED SAY PROPERTIES, SLUICING, THOSE BIDS AND AWARDING THE CONTRACT.MAYOR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS OR COUNCIL.
UM, UM, BASICALLY THIS IS, UH, AGAIN, SIMILAR TO THE TRAFFIC MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT AND CONTRACT.
IT'S BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THREE, FOUR YEAR RENEWAL OF OUR, UM, MAINTENANCE TO MAINTAIN MO AND, UM, LANDSCAPE, CERTAIN SPECIFIED PROPERTIES.
UM, WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR BID, UM, FROM SOME PAST, UH, MEMBERS OF STAFF, UM, IT'S BEEN RECOGNIZED THAT, UM, THERE HAS BEEN A DESIRE FOR SOME AREAS THAT SUCCESS SPECIFIED AREAS TO HAVE SOME LANDSCAPE REVITALIZATION, THINGS INCLUDED IN THAT, WHAT THAT MEANS IS BASICALLY A WHOLE NEW REVITALIZATION OF THESE SPECIFIED PROPERTY SESSIONS LIKE THIS ONE CITY HALL POLICE STATION, UM, SOME OF YOUR TOO BORING TO 270 AND THOSE KIND OF AREAS THEY'RE HIGHLY PLANNED ESCAPED.
SO THAT'S WHAT THIS PLAN INCLUDES.
UM, WE WE'VE ALREADY BEEN OUT TO BID FOR THIS ONCE.
UM, SO WE HAD TO REBID ON IT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET KIND OF THE RE REGULATED BID STANDARDS THAT I WAS EXPECTING.
SO WE ARE CURRENTLY REBIDDING THIS, THIS CAN BE JUST HAVE YOU PASS RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE THE BIDS ARE DUE THIS FRIDAY.
SO THIS CAN GO TO A SECOND READING AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO BRING YOU TO THE BID RESULTS AT THAT TIME.
SO, SO NOTHING FROM MONDAY ANOTHER WORK SESSION, YOU BRING US THE FIRST READING, BASICALLY.
ARE WE GOING TO ADD IT AS A FULL SCREEN? WELL, RESOLUTIONS ONLY NEED ONE READING.
SO IF THERE'S NO ACTION EIGHT ON MONDAY, I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND NOT BRINGING IT JUST WAITING UNTIL WE HAVE THE BED.
I KIND OF WANT TO GET IT IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS.
SO YOU'RE AWARE THAT THIS IS COMING.
SO WHEN IT DOES COME, WE NEED TO APPROVE IT TO SAY, THIS ALSO SAYS TO SOLICIT BEDS, BUT THEN YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE ALREADY SOLICITED.
YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED OF SOLICITATION.
BUT THIS LEGISLATION I THINK SAYS TO SOLICIT ALSO.
MY BAD WOULD JUST BE FOR AN AWARD.
AND SO THAT, THAT WOULD NEED TO BE MODIFIED.
THAT'S MY, MY, MY BED THERE ON THAT.
AND YOU'LL JUST BRING THAT BACK TO US TWO WEEKS FROM NOW FOR THE NEXT WORK SESSION.
SO THEN THIS ONE, THEN WE'LL, WE'LL WE GET THE BID PACKET BEFORE WE, UM, GO AHEAD AND APPROVE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS ONE DIDN'T SEEM AS RUSHED OR AS LIMITED AS THE OTHERS.
[ 2022 Street Program - Solicit Bids]
WHICH IS THE 2022 STREET PROGRAM.I'M GOING TO GRAB ANOTHER DRINK REAL QUICK.
UH, THIS LEGISLATION IS FOR THE 2022 STREET PROGRAM.
UH, THIS IS A YEARLY LEGISLATION THAT WE DO, AND IT'S FOR THE ADVERTISING RECEIVING A BIDS FOR THE MILLING AND PAVING OF STREETS WITHIN THE CITY.
A MAP AND A LIST OF THE STREETS IS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, THERE ARE 25 STREETS THIS YEAR INCLUDED, UH, IN THE PROGRAM AND IT COMES TO LITTLE OVER FIVE AND A HALF MILES OF STREETS.
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AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MAP, IT'S SPREAD OUT, UH, THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY.UH, THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR'S PROGRAM FOR THE MILLING AND PAVING ALONE IS, UH, $1.2 MILLION AND IS FUNDED THROUGH THE LOCAL STREET CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND OR THE STREET LEVY.
UM, AND ON THIS ONE, WE WILL BRING BACK TO COUNCIL FINAL AWARD AFTER THE BIDDING IS COMPLETED.
SO TYPICAL YEARLY STUFF WE DO FOR THE STREET PROGRAM, THE MAYOR AND THE VICE MAYOR.
I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE TO CHAIR UNTIL MARY RETURNS, TONYA WITH THE MOST RECENT VICE MAYOR.
SO IF THERE, I THINK WE'D BE AT THE POINT OF IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS, THEN, UH, OKAY.
THEY ITEM THREE OBJECTIONS, COUNSEL, GO FOR IT.
AND NANA, OH, I'M GOING TO BRING IT UP AGAIN.
WHY ARE WE REPAVING STREETS THAT ARE HAVING WATER MAIN BREAKS? LONGFORD BASCOM? WELL, BASCOM IS BECAUSE WE DID A LOT OF WORK ON THAT ONE TO DO THE LINING.
SO IN THIS CASE, WE CAN LOOK AT IT A LITTLE, WAIT A LITTLE LONGER ON THAT ONE.
WE CAN, WE CAN COME AND TAKE SOME OF THESE AWAY IF WE WANT TO.
BUT OUR INITIAL THING WAS WE DID A LOT OF TRENCH, NOT TRENCHES, BUT HOLES IN THE PAVEMENT TO ACCESS FIRE HYDRANTS AND VALVES TO REPLACE THEM.
AND SO THE ROAD DOES HAVE A LOT OF PATCHES ON IT THAT WE DECIDED WE WERE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PAVE IT.
UH, BY THE END OF THE TIME, THIS HAPPENS PAVING CURVES, UH, USUALLY IN LIKE SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT TIME, WHETHER WE'RE STILL GETTING A LOT ON BASCOM, WE'VE HAD THREE, UM, TO SEE WHETHER IT'S HAS SLOWED DOWN BY THAT POINT.
BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, MOST OF THESE BREAKS, THERE ARE DUE TO, UH, UH, SETTLEMENT OR FROM FREEZE FALL.
AND WE DON'T THINK THEY'LL HAVE HAVE MANY OF THE SUMMER, BUT, UH, WE CAN LOOK AT IT AT THAT POINT.
BUT LIKE I SAID, THE INITIAL THING WAS THE STREETS THAT WE ARE GOING TO LINE.
WE WERE GOING TO PAY THEM THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
SO OTHER THAN THAT, MOST OF THE STREETS, UH, ARE TYPICAL STREETS THAT ARE TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'D BEEN 20 TO 25 YEARS SINCE WE'VE PAVED THEM.
AND, UH, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PAY THEM.
AND WITH OUR STREET, UH, UH, THE REPLACEMENT PROJECT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THOSE STREETS WILL PROBABLY BE ON NEXT YEAR'S PAVING PROGRAM.
WE, YOU KNOW, WE DO A LOT OF TRENCHING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE FOLLOWING YEAR WE'LL GO AND PAVE THE ROAD, I GUESS, JUST BEING IN WARD FOUR AND HAVING ALL THE BREAKS AND STUFF, I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE THAT WE REALLY WAIT TILL WE GET THE WATER STUDY BACK, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT AREA.
WHY THEY'RE BREAKING, SEE WHAT OUR FIX PROCEDURE'S GOING TO BE BEFORE WE START PAYING MONEY TO PAVE THOSE STREETS ONLY TO POSSIBLY DIG THEM UP FOR THEM TO LOOK LIKE A MESS.
WELL, MOST OF THE STREETS ON THE PROGRAM ARE NOT ONES THAT HAVE, HAVE A LOT OF WATERMAN BREAKS.
WE'VE HELD OFF ON THOSE BECAUSE WE KNOW THOSE ARE COMING UP WITH THE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.
SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT CELESTE CHAIN, WHICH IS I'M SEVEN HOUSES FROM CELESTE JEAN AND MY AREAS HAD A NUMBER OF BREAKS OUT.
THERE'S NO GUARANTEES, LESS TEENS NOT GOING TO START BREAKING CAUSE IT'S RIGHT THERE AMONGST THE VARIOUS, BUT IT'S WE IN THE PAST, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD 50 TO 60 WATER MAIN BREAKS A YEAR.
SO IF CELESTION HAD TWO WATER MAIN BREAKS IN THE PAST YEAR OR TWO, YOU CAN'T NOT PAVE A ROAD AND WAIT FOREVER TO PAVE IT FOR A WATER MAIN BREAK.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WE STILL NEED, IF IT'S, IF IT'S BEEN 20 TO 25 YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO PAY IT BECAUSE WE CAN'T REPLACE THAT WATER MAIN RIGHT NOW WE STILL, AT SOME POINT NEED TO KEEP THE STREETS UPGRADED.
BUT AT THE SAME POINT, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO WAIT FOR THAT WATER STUDY.
SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT AREA AND EVERYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE START KIND OF GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.
I JUST FEEL THAT'S KIND OF GOING A LITTLE BACKWARDS.
RUSS, LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION.
IF WE ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THIS LEGISLATION AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS, DOES THAT PUT US WITH SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS? DOES THAT PUT US OUT OF THE REALM OF A GOOD BID CYCLE OR A BID, A GOOD BID ORDER? IF THAT MAKES SENSE? UH, NO, WE CAN CONTINUE.
WE CAN DO THIS BIDDING AND WE CAN STILL, WE BID PRETTY MUCH BY LINEAR FOOT OF STREET SO WE CAN COME EVEN AFTER IN THE SUMMER DECIDED WE WANT TO CHANGE THE STREET.
SO THE BIDDING ISN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THOSE STREETS.
WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THEM LATER ON AFTER WE HAVE THE CONTRACTOR BASED ON THE COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL, WOMAN, KITCHEN, MAYBE THE BEST THING FOR
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US TO DO WOULD BE TO BID THE LINEAR FEET THAT IS SUBJECT TO THIS PARTICULAR LEGISLATION.THEN WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT LINEAR FEET IN PARTICULAR ARE YOUR CONCERN, AND MAYBE WORK WITH COUNCIL AND, UH, AND THE ENGINEER'S OFFICE TO MAYBE SWAP OUT THIS YEAR.
SOME OF THAT FOOTAGE IN THE AREA OF CONCERN IN WORD WARD FOR, UH, TO OTHER AREAS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THAT CONCERN AND THEN MAYBE SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE IN 20, 23 OR 2024, ONCE WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY ON BOARD WITH THAT? I JUST THINK IT'S BACKWARDS TO DO WHAT AN AWARD FOR, UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERN.
SO WE'LL, UH, WORK TO PUT TOGETHER SOME ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS FOR THE, UH, FOR THE LITTER FEET THAT ARE IN WARD FOUR.
AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WHEN IT'S TIME TO ASSIGN THAT FOOTAGE TO SPECIFIC STREETS, COUNCIL HAS THE APPROPRIATE INFORMATION TO, TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION POSSIBLE.
AND THE QUESTION QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING THAT FORWARD TO MONDAY WITH THOSE STIPULATIONS BY BRIDE? OKAY.
UH, BEFORE I MOVE FORWARD, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HIT THE PAUSE HERE FOR JUST A SECOND AND TAKE A REAL QUICK RECESS.
WE'RE GOING TO LOSE OUR QUORUM FOR JUST A SECOND.
UM, WHEN GLENN GETS BACK, WE'LL CONTINUE.
WE JUST FINISHED WITH ITEM THREE H AND NEXT WE ARE ITEM THREE,
[ Sanitary Sewer Lining - Solicit Bids]
WHICH IS A SANITARY SEWER LINING AND SOLICITING THOSE BIDS RUSS.UH, YES, THIS IS FOR A SOLICITING BIDS FOR SANITARY SEWER LINING.
UH, WE'LL BE LINING ABOUT 8,000 FEET OF SANITARY SEWER.
AND MOST OF THIS IS IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE CITY WHERE THE OLDER MAINS ARE, OR THE OLDER SANITARY SEWER.
UH, THE PIPES HAVE ALL BEEN TELEVISED BY TRI-CITIES.
THEY HAVE A CAMERA CREW AND THEY, UH, DO SO MUCH A YEAR.
THEY DO ONE FIFTH OF THE CITY A YEAR, AND WE FOUND THE WORST, UH, STRETCHES OF PIPE THAT HAVE CRACKS LEAKS AND PARTIAL COLLAPSES IN THE PIPE.
UH, THIS IS, UH, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS.
THIS IS THE FIFTH TIME WE'VE DONE LINING PROCESSES, THE SAME TYPE OF LINING PROCESS, UH, WHAT THIS IS, IS A W THEY GO FROM MANHOLE TO MANHOLE.
THEY PUT IN A LONG, UH, POLYETHYLENE LINING SLEEVE THROUGH THE MAN THROUGH ONE MANUAL INTO ANOTHER, AND THEN THEY EXPAND IT WITH A HIGH TEMPERATURE WATER, WHICH CREATES A LINER INSIDE THE PIPE, UH HERE'S TO THE INSIDE OF THE PIPE.
UM, AND THIS WILL OBVIOUSLY PROLONG THE LIFE OF THE SEWER.
OH, WE WERE USING SANITARY SEWER FUNDS FOR THIS PROJECT AND AT A, NOT TO EXCEED $300,000.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? ANY OBJECTIONS FOR MONDAY? THANK YOU.
[ 2022 Sidewalk Program/Concrete Portion of the 2022 Street Program - Solicit Bids]
NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE, J WHICH IS A 2022 SIDEWALK PROGRAM.UH, THE CONCRETE PORTION OF THE 2022 STREET PROGRAM AND SOLICITING THOSE.
UH, THESE ARE, UH, BOTH YEARLY PROGRAMS THAT WE DO.
UM, AND WHEN THIS IS FOR RECEIVING OF BIDS, A STREET MAP WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET FOR, UH, THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM.
UH, THIS YEAR, IT'S AN AREA THAT'S BETWEEN TAYLORSVILLE AND LONGFORD AND, UH, IT'S JUST EAST OF HARSHMAN VILLE.
UH, WE WERE GOING OUT TO BID FOR THE SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT CURVE REPLACEMENT AND FOR THE LEVELING OF UNEVEN SIDEWALK.
UM, THE SIDEWALK WILL BE REPLACED FOR ANY RESIDENT THAT IS IN THE PROGRAM, BUT DID NOT DO THE WORK THEMSELVES THIS PAST FALL.
UH, THE SIDEWALK WORK WILL OCCUR BETWEEN MARCH AND MAY AND THE CURB WORK WILL RUN THROUGH THE MOST OF THE SUMMER.
UH, THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM IS SET AT A NOT TO EXCEED A 150,000 FUNDED THROUGH THE SIDEWALK FUND AND THE CONCRETE PORTION OF THE PROGRAM, WHICH IS CURB.
UM, IT'S LOCATED, UH, IN THE AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE THE STREETS ARE BEING REPAVED AND A FEW OTHER STREETS THAT HAVE BAD CURB.
THAT PAVEMENT IS NOT THAT BAD.
SO, UM, AND THAT'S SET AT A, NOT TO EXCEED OF $900,000 AND THAT'S FUNDED THROUGH THE STREET CAPITAL FUND, WHICH IS THE STREET LEVY.
UH, THIS ONE, ALONG WITH THE OTHER ONE, I WILL BE BRINGING BACK TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL AWARD.
SO WHAT DID WE BE FROM MONDAY? JUST THE APPROVAL FOR THEM.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT FOR MONDAY? CAN I JUST ASK ANOTHER QUESTION? HERE WE GO WITH LONGFORD AGAIN.
I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING WORK, BRIAN, THIS IS GOING TO BE YOUR, YOUR QUESTION.
WE HAD TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY WHEN PIPES GET REPLACED GOING UNDER THE SIDEWALKS INSTEAD OF MIDDLE OF THE STREET.
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IS THAT SOMETHING IN THAT AREA THAT MIGHT BE HAPPENING OR IS THAT NOT GOING TO BE HAPPENING? I JUST WOULD HATE TO HAVE PEOPLE GET THEIR SIDEWALKS OR WHATEVER ELSE REPLACED IF WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING A PIPE SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD, UNDERNEATH THE SIDEWALK INSTEAD OF THE ROAD.SO I THINK THAT'S ONCE AGAIN, POSSIBLY DOING SOMETHING THAT MIGHT GET TORN UP.
UM, ARE YOU REFERRING TO REPLACING PIPE OR WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? UH, IF WE REPLACE THE PIPE, THEN THE CAUGHT, THE CITY PICKS UP THE COST OF REPLACING THE SIDEWALK.
IF THEY HAVE TO GET INTO THE SIDEWALK TO DO IT.
A LOT OF TIMES WE REPLACE LIKE WATER MAINS.
IF WE DO IT BETWEEN THE CURB AND SIDEWALK USUALLY ONLY HAVE TO REPLACE DRIVE APPROACHES.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE PROJECT, WE'LL GIVE THEM A NEW DRIVE APPROACH AS PART OF THE PART.
SO THIS IS JUST FIXING CRACK A PIECE OF CRACK SIDEWALK OR A COUPLE PIECES OR WHATEVER IT IS AND THEIR DRIVE APPROACH.
IF IT, WHEREVER THE CRACKS ARE, WE DON'T DO NECESSARILY THE WHOLE THING.
IT'S JUST WHERE SMALL SQUARES OF SIDEWALK OR CURB OR SORRY, DRIVE APPROACHES.
AND THOSE WERE ALREADY MARKED AND IDENTIFIED LAST YEAR.
AND THEY WERE GIVEN EACH PROPERTY OWNER WAS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY.
THEY WERE SENT A LETTER, GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO REPLACE IT THEMSELVES OR WAIT AND HAVE US DO IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR OBJECTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU.
[ Thomas Cloud Park Walking Path Paving - Solicit Bids]
NEXT IS AM THREE K, WHICH IS TOM CLOUD PARK, WALKING PATH PAVING AND SOLICITING THOSE BEDS.UH, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, WE APPLIED FOR GRANT MONEY THROUGH MIAMI VALLEY, REGIONAL PLANNING, AND WE DID GET THE FUNDING.
AND, UH, WHAT THAT WAS FOR WAS TO REPAVE THE PATHS THAT RUN THROUGH TOM CLOUD PARK.
UM, THERE IS A MAP IN YOUR PACKET THAT SHOWS ALL THE PATHS AND, UH, THEY WILL, UH, MILL THE PATH AND RE AND THEN REPAVE.
IT USUALLY IT'S FOUR TO FIVE FEET WIDE, I BELIEVE.
UM, THERE'S 1300 OR 13,862 LINEAR FEET A PATH.
UH, THE COST TO DO THAT IS NOT TO EXCEED 180,000.
UH, THE FUNDING WE GOT THROUGH MCRPC IS PAYING 65% OF THE PROJECT AT 110,772.
AND THE CITY'S PORTION IS 66,464.
UH, SO THIS WILL ALLOW US TO GO OUT TO BID, TO HAVE A PAVING CONTRACTOR COME IN AND DO THE WORK.
AND WE'LL, WE WILL BRING THIS BACK TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL QUESTIONS OR OBJECTIONS YESTERDAY.
I SEE IN THE, UH, THE MAP DRAWING THERE, THAT INCLUDES THE AREA BACK BEHIND THE SPLASH PAD THAT GOES TO THE NEW PLAYGROUND STRUCTURE.
THIS COUNCIL APPROVED SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
WOULD THAT BE IN SAID, DOES THAT COVER THE BRIDGE REPLACEMENT THAT IS ABOVE AND THE PATH BELOW THE CREEK? UM, OR IS THIS JUST THE SIDEWALK PORTION ITSELF? BECAUSE I SEE BOTH ARE INDICATED ON YOUR MAP.
UH, I'M NOT SURE THE BRIDGE IS THAT CONCRETE.
UH, THE, I BELIEVE THE ONE, UM, KIND OF THE UPPER IS A WOODEN BRIDGE AND THE ONE BELOW IS A CONCRETE BRIDGE.
IT KIND OF GOES OVER THE CREEK.
WE'RE ONLY DOING ASPHALT, SO WHATEVER'S ASPHALT OUT THERE WHERE WE REPLACED.
IT SHOULD BE ACCORDING TO THE PASSENGER.
I'VE JUST SEEN BOTH PATHS HIGHLIGHTED ON THE MAP.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'LL HAVE TO SAY THAT, UH, JOSH KIND OF PREPARED US FOR ME FOR THIS PART OF THE DAY.
SO, UH, I BELIEVE, LIKE I SAID, WHATEVER PATH IS THERE, THAT'S ASPHALT WILL BE REPLACED OR A NEW LAYER I'LL PUT DOWN.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, UH, YOURSELF OR JOSH OR THE CITY HAS LOOKED INTO AS THE STABILITY, UH, AND THE, UM, SUSTAINABILITY OF THAT UPPER BRIDGE AREA.
I KNOW THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY ADDITIONAL WORK BESIDES THE PAVING.
SO PROBABLY NOT, IF THAT'S THE CASE I MIGHT, THAT MIGHT MIRROR, THAT MIGHT BE A TAKEAWAY THAT WE MAYBE LOOK INTO.
I MEAN, I WOULD HATE TO BE DOING ALL THAT NEW PAVING WORK THAT LEADS TO THE BRIDGE.
IF THE BRIDGE IS GOING TO NEED TO BE REPLACED, I'LL HAVE JOSH LOOK AT IT.
HAVE SOMEONE LOOK AT THE BRIDGE AND ASSESS IT AND FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT WHAT'S THE LIFESPAN OF THAT.
AND WE COULD MAYBE ADD IT TO THE PROJECT.
IF WE, SOMETIMES THE CONTRACTOR CAN JUST HIRE A SEPARATE SUBCONTRACTOR TO DO THE WORK, ANY OBJECTIONS TO MONDAY.
[ Carriage Trails - Street Dedications]
NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE L WHICH IS THE CARRIAGE TRAILS.UH, WE'VE GOT SOME STREET DEDICATIONS.
UH, THIS IS, UH, ALMOST YEARLY.
UM, THEY CAME TO US, KERRY TRAILS, CAME TO US TO DEDICATE SOME STREETS THERE.
ONCE AGAIN, AS A MAP IN YOUR PACKET, UH, IF YOU SEE THE MAP, UH, THERE'S GREEN STREETS ON THERE, THOSE ARE THE NEW ONES THAT ARE COMPLETED AND, UH, TOTALLY COMPLETED.
THEY HAVE FINAL LAYER OF ASPHALT AND THEY ARE NOW
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READY FOR DEDICATION, WHICH THEN TURNS IT OVER TO THE CITY.AND THEN WE MAINTAIN ANYTHING OUT THERE, UTILITIES AND, UH, PAVING AND CURVING AND PLOWING AND ALL THAT.
SO, UH, IF WE PASS THIS, THEN, UH, WE WILL NOW START PLOWING THAT STREET.
IF IT, YOU KNOW, AFTER THIS IS APPROVED, IT BECOMES ON OUR LIST.
SO, BUT, UH, YEAH, THAT'S, THIS IS, LIKE I SAID, I BROUGHT THIS HERE MANY TIMES BEFORE, AND THIS IS JUST ADDITIONAL STREETS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR US OR ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY.
[ City Sidewalk Requirements]
NEXT IS ITEM THREE M WHICH IS CITY SIDEWALK REQUIREMENTS.UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, UH, LIKE THE LAST MEETING, NANCY BROUGHT THAT UP ABOUT, UH, US FOR DOING REQUIREMENT OF WIDENING A ROAD AND PUTTING SIDEWALK IN WHENEVER A NEW SUBDIVISION COMES IN.
UM, JERRY HAS TAKEN OUR CODE AND MADE SOME REVISIONS TO IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
UH, MAINLY SOME OF THE CODE DID SAY LIKE MAY, INSTEAD OF LIKE, WE COULD DO IT, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE IT.
SOME OF IT'S BEEN CHANGED THE SHELL SO WE CAN REQUIRE THEM TO DO IT IN ALMOST EVERY CASE HERE, DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF STREET IT'S ON AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND WE HAD SOME CONFUSION, EXCUSE ME, BECAUSE THE WHOLE LANGUAGE WE'VE REFERRED TO ROADS THAT WE NO LONGER REFER TO ANYMORE IN THEIR THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
AND SO, UH, WE WE'VE MADE IT TO ARTERIAL ROADS AND CONNECTORS, I THINK COLLECTORS COLLECTORS, UM, BE CONSISTENT.
AND, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE LAST SECTION IN THERE, THE TABLE WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE NOTICED THAT THE, THE CODE, THE TABLE WAS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT OUR ENGINEERING DRAWINGS ARE.
SO THAT, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE SIDEWALKS.
IT WAS JUST WHILE WE WERE IN THERE, WE THOUGHT WE BETTER CLEAN THAT UP AS WELL.
BUT THIS IS BASICALLY IN THE PAST, WE'VE HAD THIS REQUIRED, WE'VE HAD THIS PROVISION ALL ALONG, BUT IT WAS ALWAYS A PERMISSIVE MANDATORY.
AND SO NOW WE'RE, WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING IF YOU'RE ON ONE OF THESE ROADS, YOU DO IT.
AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE A DEVELOPING PROPERTY THAN A BUTTS, ONE OF THESE ROADS, YOU'RE GOING TO PUT SIDEWALKS IN THERE.
UM, WE DID PROVIDE IN THERE SOME, UM, DISCRETION ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE TO WIDEN OR, UH, AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR ROAD, IF THERE'S SOME OTHER ROADS THAT ARE COMING OUT TO IT FROM THE SUBDIVISION.
BUT WE STILL SAID, EVEN IF THAT IS WAIVED, YOU STILL HAVE TO PUT IT IN THE SIDEWALK.
SO WE THINK WE, MATT, WHAT, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING FOR, WHICH IS GETTING THE, EVERY TIME A DEVELOPER COMES IN THERE, WE'RE GOING TO GET THE SIDEWALKS IN THERE.
SO THIS IS IN THEIR PLANNING AND ZONING CODE.
SO IT HAS TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FIRST, UM, REALIZED THAT AS I WAS FINISHING UP THE ORDINANCE, SO THAT'S WHY IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S IN A FINAL FORM AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WE NORMALLY SEND TO WELL PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT IT'S FOR THEIR COMMENT.
AND THEY'LL PROBABLY, YOU HAVE SOMETHING FROM RUSS OR MYSELF ON THAT.
AND I DON'T ANTICIPATE IT BEING TOO DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU SEE RIGHT NOW.
THANKS, JERRY, UH, NANCY CENTURY BROUGHT THIS TO KIND OF OUR ATTENTION.
AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU WERE ADVOCATING FOR.
IS THERE A MARY, ARE YOU OKAY WITH KIND OF THE WAY THIS IS? ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH HOW THIS WORKS? OKAY, GOOD.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OBJECTIONS TO MONDAY? YEP.
WOULD IT BE AS A MOTION BY COUNCIL TO REFER THIS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS A TEXT AMENDMENT FOR CONSIDERATION, AND THEN BRINGING IT BACK TO COUNCIL AFTER PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL.
UH, WHAT'S OUR, UH, I'M SORRY.
UH, WHAT'S OUR TIMELINE ONCE, UM, UH, ONCE THIS, IF THIS IS APPROVED ON MONDAY TO, UM, PASS ALONG TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHAT IS STAFF'S, UH, TIMELINE ON GETTING THIS BACK TO US AND, UH, GETTING THE, UM, THE CODES UPDATED OFFICIALLY.
SO BRIAN, WOULD THAT BE THE FIRST WORK SESSION AFTER THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND THEN FROM AFTER THIS IS SEEN, OR DO YOU, WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE ANY EXTRA TIME NEEDED TO GET THAT BACK TO COUNCIL? I WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD NEED IT LONGER THAN AN INITIAL LOOK AND, AND APPROVAL.
SO THAT MEANS, UH, PROBABLY WELL DEFINITIVELY WON'T MAKE THE 15TH, UH, FEBRUARY, IT WOULD MAKE THE MARCH 15TH MEETING.
THIS WOULD PROBABLY THEN RETURNED TO COUNCIL LATE APRIL.
I'M GOING TO GUESS, EXCUSE ME, MAY I, WHY WOULD IT MISS THE NEXT MEETING? THE PACKET GOES OUT AND THE NEXT DAY OR TWO FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING NEXT WEEK, WAS THERE, WAS THERE BEEN ANOTHER MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING PRIOR TO, I MEAN, TWICE A MONTH? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION BASED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION CALENDAR THAT'S POSTED, THEY'RE ONLY MEETING ONE TIME IN FEBRUARY AND THEN THEY'RE MEETING ONE TIME IN MARCH AND THEN THEY'LL RETURN TO BI-MONTHLY MEETINGS.
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MANDATORY THAT IT GO TO THE PLANNING OF MISSION? I THINK THAT'S WHAT MAKES THAT'S WHAT ADOPTS IT AS PART OF THE CODE THEN THAT WE WOULD HAVE PRINTED CHANGES TO THE PLANET AND REQUIRE APPROVAL OF ANYTHING TO EXPEDITE ONCE PLANNING COMMISSION SEES IT WHERE IT'S MAYBE SHORTER THAN THAT SIX WEEK PERIOD.I MEAN, IF THEY APPROVE IT, HOW LONG AGO, I MEAN, AND AGAIN, I'M UNDERSTANDING THE RESOURCE CONSTRAINTS AND ALL THAT.
SO LET'S JUST, I'M TRYING TO TAKE ALL INTO CONSIDERATION.
THE I'M PULLING UP THE CALENDAR NOW.
SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD SEE IT ON MARCH 15 AND THAT WOULD PUT IT BACK ON, I THINK IT'D BE MARCH 22ND BECAUSE THEN THE FOLLOWING DAY, WHICH WOULD BE THE 16TH IS THE DEADLINE FOR THE COUNCIL PACKET FOR THE WORK SESSION OF THE 22ND OF MARCH.
SO IF THAT'S, IF THEY, IF THEY AGREE TO JUST A ONE LOOK AND APPROVAL ON THE 15TH, CAN WE SEE THIS, THE LAST, YOU WOULD HAVE IT AT THE 22ND WORK SESSION AND YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO ADOPT IT ON THE 29TH OF MARCH? CORRECT.
SO LATE MARCH, NOT LATE APRIL, ANY OBJECTION? YEAH, I WOULD JUST SAY I'M IN, I, I FEEL THE NEED.
UM, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE GREAT TO PUT THAT IN THERE AND REQUIRE THAT I DON'T SEE IT A NEED FOR RUSH AND, AND PLANNING COMMISSION MAY WANT SOME DISCUSSION ON IT, SO I WOULDN'T GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER TIME IT TAKES TO GET IT BACK TO IT.
I DON'T WANNA PUT ANY HARD DEADLINE ON THIS OR TRY TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO GET DONE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I WANT TO GIVE THEM TIME TO WORK THROUGH THIS.
IF THEY HAVE ANY DISCUSSION QUESTIONS OR WHATEVER.
AND THOSE, THOSE FOLKS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION RIGHT NOW ARE PRETTY PRETTY.
THEY ASK, THEY ASK A LOT OF THINGS.
SO, UM, I WANT TO GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY.
SO I DON'T EXPECT IT ANYTIME SOON.
I'M SURE WHEN IT GETS THERE AND GETS HERE, BUT AS OF NOW, NO OBJECTION TO MOVING THIS ONTO A RESOLUTION TO MOVE OR A MOTION TO MOVE TO PLANNING COMMISSION ON.
I WAS JUST, NO, UH, I THINK THE ONLY THING I'M PLANNING COMMISSION COMING UP IS WESTPORT, WHICH IS THE ONE ACROSS FROM LEXINGTON PLACE.
AND THEY'VE ALREADY SHOWN ON THEIR PLANS THAT THEY'RE WIDENING AND PUTTING SIDEWALK IN.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING COMING UP THAT, THAT MAYBE YOU NEED TO WORRY ABOUT.
[ Huber Heights City Code Revisions - Construction Noise]
NEXT IS I AM THREE IN HEBREW HEIGHTS, CITY CODE REVISIONS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION NOISE.MR. SHAW SAID HE DIDN'T WANT TO SEE THIS AGAIN.
UM, AND WE WENT THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WE ACTUALLY PREPARED A FORM OF WHAT THE TICKET WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHICH I THINK IS EVEN IN YOUR PACKET, UH, THE CHIEF HAS A COUPLE CHANGES ON THAT FORM.
EXCUSE ME, THAT'S IN THERE, BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COUNCIL.
THAT'S MORE JUST AT A STAFF LEVEL, BUT I THINK WE'VE IRONED OUT ALL THE INS AND OUTS AND WE'RE READY TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON IT.
ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO ANY, ANY FURTHER ACTION THEN, OR IS IT JUST GOOD TO BE GOOD MOVE FORWARD? IT WILL BE AN ORDINANCE CHANGE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU WANT TO ADD ONE OR TWO.
ANY OBJECTION TO THE FIRST READING ON MONDAY.
[ Digital Sign Maintenance - Award Contract]
NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE O WHICH IS A DIGITAL SIGN MAINTENANCE AWARDING THAT CONTRACT.UH, THIS IS FOR MAINTENANCE ON THE SIDE AT THE ROSE.
WE WANTED TO GET THIS WORK DONE IN ADVANCE OF THE SEASON.
WE ARE NOT INTENDING TO BID THIS.
WE CONTACTED THE SIGN MANUFACTURER, RECOGNIZING THAT BASED ON THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TURN THIS AROUND AND THEIR FAMILIARITY, THEY WERE THE BEST OPTION.
AND WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL AUTHORIZE THIS PARTICULAR LEGISLATION ON MONDAY, SO WE CAN HAVE THIS WORK DONE IN ADVANCE OF THE SEASON.
ANY QUESTIONS OR OBJECTIONS? YEAH.
UM, I JUST, I COULDN'T GET A FIELD EXACTLY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SIGN THAT'S ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING? THIS IS THE DIGITAL SIGN.
SO THIS WOULD REPAINT THAT SIGN AND THEN IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE FOR THE, UH, THE CLEANING OF THE STONE AND THE BRICK AND WHATNOT.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS OWNED BY KEY ADS.
WE OWN IT THE SAME, THE OTHER SIGNS OF ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENT, ANY OBJECTION CAN
[ Storage Facilities - Moratorium]
UP AS ITEM THREE P WHICH HAS STORAGE FACILITIES, MORATORIUM.UM, SO I HAVE THIS ON HERE, I THINK, UH, JUST FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES AND I'LL KIND OF DEFER TO JERRY,
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BUT I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF STORAGE FACILITIES COME THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.AND I THINK WHAT, UM, I LOOKED AROUND, THERE'S SOME OTHER CITIES AROUND US THAT HAVE DONE KIND OF THE SAME THING WHERE THEY'VE JUST SAID, LOOK, IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SORTS FACILITIES IN THE CITY, THERE ARE SOME EXTRA REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY ADD TO IT IN TERMS OF DISTANCE TO ANOTHER STORAGE FACILITY, WHAT THEIR LEASE RATES ARE TO THE ONES WHERE THEIR CAPACITY OF OTHER STORAGE FACILITIES IN THE AREA.
SO I THINK WHAT I, WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN IS EVERY AVAILABLE FOUR OR FIVE ACRE PIECE OF LAND THROUGHOUT THE CITY, SOMEONE COMES IN AND SAYS, HEY, THAT'S A GREAT PLACE.
SO I CAN PUT A STORAGE FACILITY BECAUSE IT'S REALLY CHEAP TO PUT IT IN.
I MAKE A TON OF MONEY, BUT THEN THERE'S NO REAL TAX REVENUE BENEFIT TO THE CITY WITH ONE EMPLOYEE PART-TIME IN A STORAGE PLACE.
SO, UH, JERRY, AS YOU ALL TURNS TO YOU TO JUST KIND OF GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE OR WHAT THIS PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE THAT WE WOULD GO THROUGH TO DETERMINE WHAT OUR SITUATION IS WITH, WITH SOURCES.
SO, AND ANYTIME YOU'RE GOING TO DO A MAJOR REGULATION ON SOMETHING, UM, IT'S GOOD TO PUT A MORATORIUM IN THERE BECAUSE OTHERWISE PEOPLE SEE SOMETHING COME IN, THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BUY UP ALL THE LANDS AND PUT IN, UM, APPLICATIONS TO GET A, UM, STORAGE FROM THIS CASE STORAGE FACILITY.
UM, JUST SO THAT THEY CAN GET IN BEFORE THE NEW LAW TAKES EFFECT.
BECAUSE IF YOU DO, AS YOU KNOW, YOU PASS A LAW, IT TAKES 30 DAYS AND IN THE ABSENCE OF AN EMERGENCY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND SO WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IS YOU WOULD PUT A MORATORIUM ON IT AND THAT WOULD STOP ANY NEW APPLICATIONS FROM COMING IN, BUT YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE THAT WILLY NILLY.
AND IT HAS TO BE FOR A SPECIFIC SET OF TIME.
AND THE, DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, IT HAS TO BE FOR A SPECIFIC PERSON PURPOSE.
IN THIS CASE, IT WOULD BE PRESUMABLY FOR STAFF TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE FOUND OUT ABOUT STORAGE UNITS.
HERE'S WHAT OTHER COMMUNITY DID, WHATEVER IT IS THAT THIS COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO DO WITH SOMEONE YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
BUT THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE GENERALLY DEFILED THE MORATORIUM.
AND LIKE I SAID, THAT DOESN'T AFFECT ANY PENDING APPLICATIONS.
IT'S ONLY FOR STOPPING FUTURE APPLICATIONS FROM COMING IN UNTIL YOU CAN GET ALL YOUR DUCKS IN A ROW.
I AM, I GUESS I WANTED TO ADD IT ON HERE AS A, UH, AS A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.
UM, ALL OF YOU MAY AGREE OR YOU MIGHT DISAGREE WITH, WITH MY OPINION, BUT, UM, HERE IT IS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEP.
UM, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT TRADITIONALLY WE'VE TAKEN THE STANCE OF, IT'S NOT FOR US TO PICK AND CHOOSE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAID TOO MANY CHICKEN JOINTS, TOO MANY CAR WASHES, TOO MANY PIZZA PLACES, TOO MANY WHATEVER.
AND WE SAY, HEY, THAT'S WE, WE DON'T PICK AND CHOOSE THAT WE DON'T DO THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF THE MARKET DEMANDS, THE BUSINESSES COME, UM, I DON'T SEE THIS ANY DIFFERENTLY.
I, I CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE NO ISSUE WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANTED TO ASK STAFF TO, TO RESEARCH WHAT'S, YOU KNOW WHAT OUR CAPACITY MAY BE, OR IF WE'RE, OH, WE HAVE TOO MANY UNITS OR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T SEE ANY NECESSITY FOR THIS OVER STORAGE FACILITIES WHEN WE HAVEN'T DONE IT IN ANY OTHER SITUATIONS, UH, EXCEPT MARIJUANA, I'M SORRY, MARIJUANA, MEDICAL, MARIJUANA FACILITIES.
WELL, YEAH, BUT YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE, I DON'T SEE THE NECESSITY.
I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, I GUESS.
UM, YES, I, MY CONCERN IS, UH, THAT WOULD HAVE BUS UP A RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT, UH, IF WE GET TOO MANY OF THESE, BUT UP TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA TAKES AWAY THE, THE PIECE, IF YOU WANT, I CALL THAT THE PERSONALITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I THINK I WOULD SUPPORT A MORATORIUM UNTIL WE DID, UH, SUFFICIENT RESEARCH TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, HOW WE WOULD, UH, HOW WE WANT TO DEAL WITH THEM IN THE FUTURE AND THE SPECS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
AND THAT'S KIND OF THINGS, JERRY, IS THAT SOMETHING WE WOULD LOOK AT OR STAFF WILL LOOK AT IN THE RESEARCH OR AS PART OF THE, PART OF THE CODE ABOUT WHERE THEY COULD GO OR MAYBE, YEAH, MOST LIKELY.
I MEAN, IT'S GENERALLY YOU PUT A MORATORIUM ON, IF, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH AND YOU'RE SAYING WE DON'T WANT SOME NEW ONES COMING IN UNTIL WE FIGURE THIS OUT, WE HAVE A TYPICALLY IT'S WE HAVE A PROBLEM OR, OR CONVERSELY, THIS IS SO NEW.
WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF IT.
AND THAT WAS THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA ASPECT OF IT.
SO IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE COME IN, IF YOU THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME IN NOW AND SAY, OH, I FEAR THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LET, LET US HAVE THESE UNITS IN RESIDENTIAL, UH, BUDDING RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
NOW LET'S GET OUR APPLICATIONS IN FOR, AND NOW SUDDENLY YOU HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH AND IRRESPECTIVE OF ANYTHING YOU DO WHERE YOU SAY IT IN THE FUTURE, FOR EXAMPLE, IT CAN'T BE NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL.
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WOULDN'T APPLY IT TO ANY OF THOSE.SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY YOU WOULD DO A MORATORIUM.
I'M NOT NECESSARILY ADVOCATING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, BUT THAT'S JUST GENERALLY THE PURPOSE FOR IT IS TO STOP THE PEOPLE FROM COMING IN AND TRYING TO GET IN BEFORE THE REGULATION.
MA'AM UM, COULD, SINCE THIS WAS AN AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU HAD BROUGHT UP AND I'M ALL ABOUT HAVING CONVERSATION, UM, IN THE PAST, I DON'T KNOW, I'LL GO FOUR YEARS.
HOW MANY APPLICATIONS HAS THE CITY SEEN FOR STORAGE UNITS? I THINK THE BIG ONE IS THE ONE THAT WE JUST APPROVED DOWN ON WAYNE TOWN THAT NOW IS COMING BACK IN.
THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING TO BE GOING TO BE QUITE A FEW.
AND THEN I THINK THERE WAS, UM, INFORMATIONAL, AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING OR SOMEONE BROUGHT FORTH ONE ABOUT SOME OTHER STORAGE AT THE PLACE BACK BEHIND CEDAR HILL.
THAT WAS AT THE LAST, UM, AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND I THINK THERE'S AN ACTIVE OR PENDING APPLICATION, UM, UP OFF OF 40.
SO, I MEAN, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THREE WITHIN THE LAST 12 MONTHS.
SO, BUT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT'S ALL REDEVELOPING LOCATIONS IN THE CITY.
NOT, NOT ANYTHING THAT'S, UH, AND I BELIEVE THOSE THREE LOCATIONS OUTSIDE OF MAYBE ONE, NONE OF THEM ARE, BUT TWO RESIDENTIAL.
YEAH, I THINK, YEAH, THE ONE, THE PENDING ONE AND THIS DOESN'T AFFECT ANYTHING PENDING.
THERE'S ONE THAT, YEAH, THE ONE ON 40 ABUTS RESIDENTIAL.
AND BECAUSE, I MEAN, I CAN THINK OF FOUR.
UM, WHEN I LOOK, WHEN I GO BACK FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, IF NOT EVEN SIX, UM, IS ONE WOULD BE THE GLOBE FACTORY, UM, THAT, UH, HAD, UH, THAT WAS REDESIGNED.
UM, I MEAN, YOU GO BACK FURTHER FROM THAT YOU HALL.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSAL, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE CEDAR HILL AREA, UM, WAYNE TOWN AND WHAT I'M GOING TO CALL THE CONTROVERSIAL ONE UP, UP NEAR 40.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A HUGE INFLUENCE.
I THINK WE'VE HAD MORE RESTAURANT INCREASED IN CHICKEN JOINTS AND PIZZA JOINTS AND DOLLAR STORES.
NOW WE HAVE HAD STORAGE LOCATIONS.
UM, SO I THAT'S WHERE I'M TRYING TO GET THE FILL.
I MEAN, DO WE REALLY HAVE AN INFLUX OR IS IT JUST, I MEAN, I GUESS I'M GOING TO CALL A SPADE A SPADE, IS IT, ARE WE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION JUST BECAUSE OF THE STORAGE UNIT FACILITY PROPOSED UP ON, RIGHT.
NO, BECAUSE THIS, THIS WOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT PARTICULAR APPLICATION BECAUSE IN MY ADDITIONAL RESEARCH, I CAN ONLY FIND A HANDFUL OF OTHER COMMUNITIES IN OUR AREA THAT HAVE HIGHLY DENSE RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT HAVE EVEN CONSIDERED A MORATORIUM AND THE MIAMI VALLEY.
SO I GUESS I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE BRASS TAX ON WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT W SO I LOOKED UP AND READ THOSE A PRETTY GOOD ARTICLE IN DAYTON, DAILY NEWS HERE ABOUT CENTERVILLE AND WHAT THEY HAD KIND OF WHAT THEIR RESTRICTIONS ARE, BUT THEY HAD, THEY HAD A MORATORIUM IN PLACE TILL THEY CAME UP WITH WHAT, UM, WHAT BETTER SUITED THEM AS FAR AS, UM, WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE.
SO I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THERE'S A, UM, THERE'S A BAN ON STORAGE FACILITIES, BUT I THINK, UM, IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO, IF WE'RE GOING TO SEE AN INFLUX OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS WITH MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE, UM, MORE GUIDANCE FOR OUR PLANNING COMMISSION, WHAT THE CODE IS ABOUT, WHAT THE, WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS OR GUIDELINES WOULD BE AS.
SO THAT'S, THAT, THAT IS, THAT IS THE POINT OF THE DISCUSSION.
SO THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING FOR THE, FOR THE LOCAL ECONOMY.
TYPICALLY HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE, MAYBE TWO, IT TAKES UP, UM, ACREAGE.
I THINK THE RESEARCH HAS ONE EMPLOYEE FOR EVERY FIVE ACRES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IF, IF YOU'VE GOT THE SAME RESEARCH I DID FROM KETTERING AND SURVEIL AND PARMA AND, AND MIDDLEBOROUGH HEIGHTS, I THINK IT WAS, YOU KNOW, OTHER COMMERCIAL SPACE TYPICALLY GENERATES ABOUT 10 PER ACRE.
SO IT'S LIKE 50 TIMES THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF ANOTHER COMMERCIAL BUSINESS VERSUS A STORAGE FACILITY.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S DISCUSSION IT'S UP TO COUNCIL, BUT I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE MORATORIUM IS NOT, WE'RE NOT ACCEPTING ANY MORE STORAGE FACILITIES IT'S, LET'S HOLD UP SO WE CAN REVIEW AND EVALUATE WHAT OUR CODE IS AND CAN WE MAKE IT ANY BETTER? UM, HAVE WE GOTTEN ANY, AND THEN THE MORATORIUM WOULD, WOULD BE LIFTED.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT I THINK, JUST FROM A, FROM A LEGAL OPINION, THAT'S JUST THE, UH, THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT IT WOULD GO THROUGH.
SO IN THESE CONVERSATIONS AND THE ONES THAT I'VE MENTIONED, AND I KNOW MR. WALTON HAS CHAIRED THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR
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SOME TIME.NOW, WHEN, UM, WHEN THE GLOBE FACTORY WAS, WAS REDEVELOPED, WHEN YOU HALL WAS REDEVELOPED.
I THINK EVEN MR. WEBB SET ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION DURING SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, HAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, REACHED OUT TO STAFF OR TO OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND, AND HAD ANY QUESTIONS PRIOR TO THE, YOU KNOW, STORAGE CONVERSATIONS ON ROUTE 40, OR DID THIS JUST SPUR THE CONVERSATION? I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
I MEAN, BUT AGAIN, THIS, IF, IF THERE IS A MORATORIUM IN THAT LEGISLATION WAS FORWARD, IT DOES NOT IMPACT 40.
SO, UM, WELL, THE, THE PER THE PLAN FOR OUT 40, SO TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT THAT AS A LITTLE DISINGENUOUS, IT CERTAINLY HAS SPURRED THE CONVERSATION, BUT ANY ACTION FOR A MORATORIUM IN DISCUSSION HAS NO IMPACT ON THE APPLICATION AT 40.
AND I JUST GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE MORATORIUM THAT WAS PLACED ON MEDICAL MARIJUANA, WHERE WE DID HAVE A VENDOR, UM, AND THE, AND THE MORATORIUM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS THEN SHORTLY THEREAFTER.
SO I'M WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, WHEN WE TRIED TO PUT A MORATORIUM OR A BAN ON CERTAIN BUSINESSES IN THE CITY OF HUBER HEIGHTS, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE EQUITABLE, EQUITABLE, BUT WE'RE ALSO FAIR TO THE COMMERCE AND GROWTH OF OUR COMMUNITY AND, AND RESEARCH OF JOBS.
I MEAN, IF THIS COMMUNITY IS LOOKING AT, AND THE PATHWAY IT'S MOVING FORWARD OF GROWING MULTIPLE, YOU KNOW, MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, UM, I THINK THE CONVERSATION WAS JUST HAD THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE PEOPLE GOING TO PUT THEIR STUFF? UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN SOME OF THE QUICK PHONE CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH AREAS, STORAGE UNITS, UM, THAT OPERATE VERY SUCCESSFULLY HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, VERY LITTLE VACANCY AT THEIR UNITS.
UM, I KNOW LARKSPUR PUT TOGETHER A WONDERFUL PROPOSAL, I THINK IS GOING TO DO GREAT WORK, UH, FOR WAYNE TOWN GLOBE SET EMPTY FOR, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW LONG BEFORE SOMEBODY CAME THROUGH AND, AND READ IT THAT, UM, THE CEDAR HILL PROPERTY BACK THERE.
I MEAN THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT NEEDS SOME ATTENTION.
UM, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE EQUITABLE IN THIS AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM HAVING THE CONVERSATION.
UM, BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT COMMUNITIES LIKE KETTERING AND CENTERVILLE, PARMA, YOU KNOW, MIDDLEBOROUGH HEIGHTS THAT HAVE SOME OF THESE IN PLACE, THEY'RE A VERY DENSELY POPULATED COMMUNITY WITH SEVERAL ROOFTOPS AND THEY ARE LANDLOCKED WHERE THEY HAVE NO VACANT LAND WHATSOEVER.
UM, AND IN THERE, AND D AND THOSE EXAMPLES THAT I PROVIDED, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IT WAS A SITUATION WHERE THE MORE RETURN TURNED INTO A BAN ON A FEW OF THOSE.
UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING DOWN THIS PATH WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO PICK OFF, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT IN OUR COMMUNITY JUST BECAUSE OF NIMBY.
UM, I THINK, I THINK WE, I THINK WE CAN HAVE, UM, RESTRICTIONS.
I THINK THE CODE CAN BE, UM, MADE BETTER GIFT PLANNING, COMMISSION, SOME BETTER DIRECTION.
SO TO CIRCLE THAT BACK AROUND, HAS MR. WALTON OR ANYBODY ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONTACTED CITY STAFF OR OUR LAW DIRECTOR AND SAY OUR CODE DOES NOT WORK.
I THINK THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONVERSATIONS HAD THAT IS, UM, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF THESE AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT WILL BE.
I MEAN, LARKSBURG THAT, I MEAN, THAT PARTICULAR STORAGE FACILITY, I MEAN, THERE'S, I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE A FEW.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S CLEARLY, I MEAN, RIGHT.
THAT'S NOT IN ANYBODY'S BACKYARD.
I MEAN, THAT'S A LONG WAY DOWN BOULEVARD.
AND I THINK ALL OF US EVEN SAID, UM, GLEN, I HEARD YOU SAY, THAT'S NOT THAT WASN'T THE, UH, FIT THAT YOU HOPED WAS GOING TO GO THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT IT WAS SO, UM, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT WHAT RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UM, I MEAN, CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DO BELIEVE THAT IT'S A NECESSITY, SO STORAGE FACILITIES ARE IN NECESSITY, BUT, UM, THEY'RE NOT A DESIRABLE BUSINESS, UM, AND A LOT OF PLACES TO THE CITY.
SO I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT PLANNING COMMISSION AND BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A BUNCH OF OTHERS THAT THE, THE RESTRICTIONS OR THE GUIDELINES ON THAT BUSINESS, UM, MEAN WHAT WE WANT IT TO.
AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP MIRACLES, I MEAN, THAT'S, WE DON'T IT'S OKAY.
WELL, AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP MARY IS, CAUSE I KNOW EARLIER YOU HAD ASKED IF ANYBODY ON COUNCIL HAD DRAFTED LEGISLATION.
AND I THINK I DRAFTED FOUR OR FIVE PIECES OF LEGISLATION WHEN IT CAME TO MEDICAL MARIJUANA.
UM, AND WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF THOSE RADIUS RESTRICTIONS AND HOMES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
I WORKED, YOU KNOW, WITH THE LAW DIRECTOR AT COUNSEL'S REQUEST TO DO A LOT OF THAT.
AND AS WE KEPT WORKING WITH THOSE PIECES
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OF LEGISLATION, THE PUZZLE KEPT MOVING THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GOALPOSTS KEPT MOVING TO WHERE WE'RE AT TO THE POINT THAT YOU JUST COULDN'T OPERATE IT ANYWHERE IN THE CITY.SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE AS WE GO FORWARD HERE, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE EQUITABLE TO ALLOW STORAGE UNITS IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT, YOU KNOW, MR. WALTON AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE SOME INPUT ON THIS, BECAUSE I'VE NOT HEARD FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT SAYS THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CODE IS OR THEY'RE QUESTIONING THE CODE JERRY WITH AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, THIS WILL GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THEY WOULD CERTAINLY GET INPUT IN THIS, CORRECT.
YEAH, IT WOULD BE PRESUMABLY A ZONING CODE CHANGE.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IF WE'RE GOING TO DICTATE WHAT, WHERE THEY CAN BE LOCATED AT AND REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD ALL BE HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO ARE WE STATING THAT WE'RE GOING TO LET THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE THAT DICTATION? WELL, I THINK NO RECOMMENDATION INPUT.
CAUSE I THINK LIKE, SO FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS COUNCILS HAVE, HAVE, HAVE CHANGED WHAT SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS ARE.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE SORTS OF SELLERS ON OLD TROY PIKE.
CAUSE YOU'RE COMING INTO THE CITY THAT LOOK LIKE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW THEY BUILT THOSE THINGS.
I MEAN, THEY ARE THREE DIMENSIONAL ROOF, SHINGLES, THEY'RE ALL BRICK.
I MEAN THE, I MEAN, SO YOU'VE GOT THAT KIND.
SO, SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING EQUITABLE, WHY DID PLANNING COMMISSION AND WHY DID COUNCIL MAKE THAT PARTICULAR STORAGE FACILITY BUILD THE TAJ MAHAL, THE STORAGE FACILITIES, BUT THEN IN ANOTHER PART OF TOWN, WE'RE OKAY WITH GRAVEL ROADS AND ORANGE ROLL UP DOORS THAT YOU JUST HANG OUT, HANG A LOCK ON.
SO, SO I, I DON'T THINK THE CODE, THE WAY IT READS RIGHT NOW IS EQUITABLE FOR ANYBODY BECAUSE COUNCIL HAS MADE DECISIONS OR PLANNING, COMMISSIONERS MADE DECISIONS, DETERMINING WHAT ONE PARTICULAR STORAGE FACILITY HAS TO DO VERSUS WHAT ANOTHER STORAGE FACILITY HAS TO DO.
SO, UM, I THINK THE CONVERSATION CAN GO AS DEEP AS WHAT ANYBODY WANTS, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T.
AND AGAIN, I'M NOT TELLING YOU'RE SAYING THAT, UM, I DON'T EVER WANT TO SEE ANOTHER STORAGE FACILITY BUILT AND SEE IF YOU WERE HEIGHTS.
BUT I THINK, I THINK THERE'S WORK THAT WE CAN DO BASED ON WHAT SOME OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE TO FIND OUT IF SOME BIGGER RESTRICTIONS WORK FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND IF THEY DO GREAT.
AND IF WE FIND OUT THEY DON'T WELL THAT'S OKAY TOO.
MY ONLY CONCERN IS, IS TO YOUR, TO YOUR POINT IN WHICH IS COMPLETELY VALID.
UH, THERE ARE MANY STORAGE UNITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT LOOK DIFFERENT.
UM, AND THEY'RE IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS OR OUR COMMUNITY, SAME THING COULD BE SAID WITH HOUSING AND APARTMENTS.
THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
THEY ALL BUILT DIFFERENT TIMES.
THEY ALL GOT FRONT DOORS, THEY ALL GOT ROOFS FOR THE MOST PART.
SO I'M NOT A FAN OF A STORAGE FACILITY, HAS A GRAVEL, GRAVEL DRIVEWAY.
THAT'S NOT MY DECISION TO MAKE, BUT I THINK WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT MAKES SENSE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, THE DISCUSSION IS ALL IS, IS WHAT I'M ASKING FOR SURE.
SO, UM, THE, THE MORATORIUM PIECE IS TO GIVE US THE TIME TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WORKS, BUT I MEAN, CLEARLY IT'S YOUR GUYS' DISCRETION.
SO THEN WE'LL GO TO DON NEED AND I'LL COME BACK TO YOU.
UM, I'D LIKE TO REFER TO THE NO MORE TOWARD HIM.
SO CENTERVILLE PLACED A ONE YEAR MORATORIUM ON STORAGE SOUL-TIES AND DURING THAT TIME, IN FACT, THE LANGUAGE FROM THOSE CENTERVILLE, UM, RESOLUTION WAS WHEREAS CITY STAFF NEEDS TIME TO RESEARCH AND PROPOSE ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY FOR ADOPTION, UH, SPECIFICALLY WITH REGARD TO STORAGE UNITS AND THEN WHAT THEY DID.
AND HERE'S TIME, THEY CAME UP WITH SOME VERY SPECIFIC PARAMETERS, THE LANGUAGE IN THEIR CODE THAT, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, UH, A THOUSAND FEET AWAY FROM A, UM, ANOTHER STORAGE FACILITY AND THEY HAD A, SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT, UM, A MAXIMUM OF THREE ACRES FOR ANY ONE STORAGE FACILITY.
UH, THEY HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT THEY IDENTIFIED BECAUSE THEY WANTED THEM.
THEY TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE IN STORAGE FACILITIES WITHIN OUR CITY? I AGREE WITH MORE TIME, I, I WAS TAKEN ABACK BY THE PRESENTATION AT THE END OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UM, WITH WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED FOR CEDAR HILL 33 ACRES OF STORAGE TO SOLVING.
UM, I REALLY THINK IT'S A TIME FOR US TO, AS A COUNCIL, TO ENACT A MORATORIUM AND THEN SIT BACK AND DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO SEE WITH STORAGE FACILITIES IN THE CITY OF HUBER.
I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP, I DO WANT US TO BE SENSITIVE THOUGH, THAT WE ARE BUILDING ALL THESE APARTMENTS THAT DON'T HAVE MUCH STORAGE.
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WANT US TO JUST KIND OF LIKE, UH, KIND OF DISCREDIT STORAGE UNITS COMING IN.AND ALSO BECAUSE I'VE HAD TWO FRIENDS THAT WERE MILITARY, THAT'S MOVED BACK AND THEY COULDN'T GET HOUSING RIGHT AWAY AND HAD TO MOVE INTO VERY SMALL PLACES.
AND BOTH OF THEM HAPPENED HERE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AFTER THE TORNADOES.
AND THEY HAD A HARD TIME FINDING STORAGE TO PUT THEIR STUFF SO THEIR FAMILY COULD LIVE.
SO I JUST WANT US TO BE SENSITIVE TO THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES.
UM, I WOULD SAY I AGREE WITH THE STATEMENT THAT IT DOESN'T PROVIDE A LOT OF JOBS.
I MEAN, IT'S VERY LOW MAN, BUT FROM A LOCATION STANDPOINT AND EFFECTING HOMES, UM, I WOULD ARGUE THAT IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE LEAST OBTRUSIVE BUSINESSES YOU COULD THINK OF TO PUT BEHIND THE HOUSE BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE A BUNCH OF LOUD NOISE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE ACTIVITY ALL THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT.
IT'S IF IT'S GOT A GOOD BUFFER, IT'S PROBABLY A GREAT THING TO BE.
I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD WANT BEHIND ME VERSUS A CARRY OUT OR A GAS STATION OR A, YOU KNOW, I CAN NAME A MILLION OTHER BUSINESSES.
I WOULDN'T WANT, AS LONG AS THAT THING'S BUFFER PROPERLY, WHICH WE CAN DO THROUGH OUR PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND THROUGH THIS, THIS BOARD, UM, AS, AS REGULATOR DECIDE ON THOSE THINGS, REQUIRE THOSE THINGS.
UM, I, I JUST UNDERSTAND WHY IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE DONE PROPERLY, WHICH WE HAVE THE MEANS TO DO, AND WE CAN KEEP THEM FROM, FROM BEING EYESORE, SO TO SPEAK AND WE CAN REQUIRE SOME OF THOSE THINGS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT HARD SURFACE DRIVES AND CERTAIN TYPES OF LAYOUTS.
I WOULD SAY THE ONES WE HAVE NOW, THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT THEY DECIDED THEY WANTED TO DO WHEN THEY BUILT THEIR UNITS.
CAUSE THAT'S THE CHEAPEST WAY TO DO IT.
WELL, I MEAN, BUT OTHERS DID OTHER THINGS AS YOU NOTED, YOU KNOW, I JUST LOOKED MUCH BETTER.
I THINK CARGO, IT LOOKS DECENT.
IT DOESN'T REALLY DO MUCH, IT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF NOISE.
UM, AND IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO A WHOLE BUNCH OF, OF HOMES.
UM, SO YEAH, I, AND ON A SIDE NOTE, UM, WITH ALL THE STORAGE UNITS WE HAVE IN HUBER HEIGHTS, THAT WOULD BE ONE THAT'S IN AN AREA WHERE THERE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY OTHERS REASONABLY CLOSE TO THAT YOU'D HAVE TO COME DOWN TO EXECUTIVE.
UM, SO I MEAN, THAT MIGHT NOT, THAT MIGHT NOT BE A HORRIBLE LOCATION FOR ONE, AS FAR AS SERVING A CERTAIN POPULATION, UH, YOU KNOW, LOWER BETHEL AND NORTHERN HUBER HEIGHTS.
UM, UM, ANYWAY, MY 2 CENTS, ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.
UM, SO MOVING FORWARD, THERE'S, THERE'S ONLY FIVE OF YOU.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF RICHARD, IF YOU'VE MADE YOUR POINT COMPLETELY CLEAR OR NITA YOU'RE.
I MEAN, I KNOW DON AND NANCY, UM, HAVING A PAIN TO LOOK, TO LOOK FORWARD TO, TO REVISIT AND HAVE THE DISCUSSION, BUT IF ANITA AND GLEN AND RICHARD, AREN'T INTERESTED, THEN WE'LL DISPOSE OF BUYING THE VINE.
UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE GLENN JUST POINTED OUT, WE CAN DO IT IF IT'S THIS, IF IT'S SAD, UM, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN THINGS YOU'RE DONE.
BUT I THINK WHAT I, ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS THAT WE DO A MORATORIUM AND TAKE TIME TO DISCUSS, TO FIND OUT WHAT THE BEST F'S ARE.
WHAT'S, UH, OUR, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE FUTURE, UH, STORAGE FACILITIES, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE, WE HAVE OUR REQUIREMENTS LAID OUT SO THAT, UM, THEY'RE ALL PRETTY MUCH FOLLOWING THE SAME SPECS IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT, NOT IN THE BUILDING, BUT IN THE LAYOUT, I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE APPLICATIONS.
AND THERE'S, I DON'T THINK THERE'S, ANYBODY'S INTENT TO STOP THEM.
WE JUST ARE TRYING TO LAY SOME GROUNDWORK ON, ON, UH, TO DECIDE WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY AND TO BE, HAVE OUR DECISIONS.
DATA-DRIVEN NOT, YOU KNOW, OPINION DRIVEN OR, OR WHATEVER, ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITHOUT MORE LIGHT, BUT WE HAVEN'T DON.
WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION, CAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP THE STORAGE IS ON 40 PLANNING COMMISSION HAD SOME LEEWAY.
CAN YOU EVEN SAY LEEWAY PLANNING COMMISSION HAD, WAS ABLE TO GIVE SOME GUIDANCE ON THAT AS TO WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE WITH FENCING BUFFERING AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE IT WASN'T A PLANNED ZONE, BUT A STORAGE FACILITY THAT COMES TO US RIGHT NOW, THAT'S UM, IN A COMMERCIALLY ZONED WHERE THEY CAN MOVE IN AND PUT UP A STORAGE FACILITY, DOESN'T GIVE PLANNING COMMISSION
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THAT SAME LEEWAY.THEY DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THOSE THINGS LIKE BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEY'LL JUST GO STRICTLY, ACCORDING TO CODE, YOU KNOW, I SERVED ON PLANNING PERMISSION FOR A DOZEN YEARS OR SO.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S NOT CLEAR AS TO WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD WANT TO SEE OUT ABOUT A STORAGE FACILITY HERE IN THE CITY.
UH, THE REASON I LIKED THE MORATORIUM IS AS CENTERVILLE DOES YOU PUT A MORATORIUM ON IT AND THEN WE GET OUR DUCKS IN A ROW.
WE WANT TO SEE WITH STORAGE FACILITIES IN THE CITY, JUST AFTER COVID, UH, WROTE AN ARTICLE AFTER COVID STORAGE FACILITY.
UM, AS MR. CAMPBELL WOULD SAY, IF HE WAS HERE REALLY CHEAP TO THROW UP STORAGE BUILDINGS, AND THERE WAS NO BENEFIT TO THE CITY WHATSOEVER, IT'S A BENEFIT CONVENIENCE TO OUR RESIDENTS, BUT THERE WAS NO BENEFIT TO THE CITY.
THERE WAS NO TAX SPACE, THERE'S NOTHING.
SO I DON'T THINK IT HURTS US TO STEP BACK RIGHT NOW AND HAVE A MORATORIUM AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE PARAMETERS THAT WILL ALLOW STORAGE FACILITIES TO BUILD IN OUR CITY ON THERE.
COULD I SUGGEST THAT, UM, WE MOVE OUR, PUT THIS DISCUSSION ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION SO THAT WE WOULD HOPEFULLY HAVE OUR WHOLE COUNCIL, UH, ON BOARD, UH, TO HAVE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION AGAIN AND, AND THEN BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT, I MEAN, I'VE ACTUALLY GOT A FURTHER POINT ON THAT TO THE POINT THAT I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN BERGE, UM, ON PUTTING THIS ON HER ANOTHER WORK SESSION, BECAUSE AS, AS WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT AS COUNCIL MEMBER WEBB STATED, YOU KNOW, COVID HAS CHANGED A LOT OF BUSINESS MODELS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE STATEMENT ON THAT.
UM, AND I TH BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN KITCHEN THAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY SENSITIVE TO, TO OUR COMMUNITY AND ITS GROWING NEEDS.
SO AS, AS WE LOOK AT AREA BUSINESSES, I THINK THIS, THIS ACTUALLY NEEDS TO FALL BACK ON STAFF A BIT AND WITH A LOT OF THE FIRES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY FACING IN OUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WHERE IS THIS GOING TO RANK ON THAT LEVEL? BECAUSE AS, AS WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, STORAGE UNITS, AS WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, RV PARKS, UM, AS WE LOOK AT FLEA MARKETS, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE ALL LOCATIONS THAT DO NOT HAVE A HIGH EMPLOYEE COUNT, BUT IF YOU DO A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH ON BUSINESS MORATORIUMS BY CITY COUNCILS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THERE'S A WHOLE PLETHORA OF THEM THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY.
SO IS IT A SITUATION THAT WE NEED TO SAY, STAFF? WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE GROWING ISSUE ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT WE NEED TO GRASP HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH THE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE THAT WE HAVE OPENED AND AVAILABLE NEAR NEAR OUR MAIN THOROUGHFARES, UM, AND GET WITH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND SAY, WHAT ARE MORE, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF PUTTING MORE TERMS, WHAT ARE CODED, YOU KNOW, CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO GO AFTER NOW SO THAT WE CAN BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE, BECAUSE I PERSONALLY FEEL IT IS IN MY OPINION THAT WE'RE BEING REACTIVE RIGHT NOW INSTEAD OF PROACTIVE.
SO WHY DON'T WE TAKE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST COMPLETELY OPEN WIDE WORK WITH OUR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND SEE WHERE WE CAN BE PROACTIVE AT TO NOT ONLY BE BUSINESS FRIENDLY, BUT TO BE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, VERY, YOU KNOW, EQUITABLE THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.
I'M WILLING TO, TO HAVE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION.
MAYOR, I THINK, I THINK THIS MAY HAVE BROUGHT UP, UH, A LARGER POINT THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN BERG, MAYBE PUSHING ON TO ANOTHER WORK SESSION, ALLOWING STAFF AND, AND OTHERS TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL RESEARCH, UM, WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
I DON'T MEAN USUALLY THAT ANYTHING.
UM, MY ONLY CONCERN IS, AND ANOTHER JUSTIFICATION FOR A MORATORIUM AS, AS VISHY, CASCAIS MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES, WE ARE SHORT ON STAFF.
SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I THINK YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BRIAN, BUT I THINK THAT, UH, IT, THIS IS, THIS IS A ISSUE THAT WILL NOT RISE TO THE TOP OF THE PRIORITY LIST.
SO WE NEED TO PUT THE VAR TERRARIUM ON NOW AND ALLOW THEM TIME TO BUILD THEIR STAFF AGAIN, TO GET A NEW CITY MANAGER AND TO COLLECT THE DATA AND DO THE ANALYSIS THAT WE NEED.
BRENDA'S NOT HAVING TO PAY ON THIS AT ALL.
UH, TO MS. BURGESS POINT, IT WOULD NOT BE A PRIORITY FOR US TO EXPEDITE THE RESEARCHER, EVALUATE THE METRICS OF WHAT WE SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE DOING WITH RESPECT TO THIS OR THE AVANT-GARDE ISSUE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, PLANNING
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IT AT LEAST UNTIL WE'RE FULLY STAFFED OR CLOSER TO FULLY STAFF THAN WHERE WE ARE TODAY, JERRY, IF THIS GOES BACK TO PLAY.SO WHAT, WHAT WOULD PLANNING COMMISSION BE ALLOWED TO DO BY WHAT THEY'RE COMING? I MEAN, IS THIS, CAN THIS JUST BE A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION THAT'S ON A PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA, AND THEN THEY GO AND THEY GO THROUGH THIS, MAYBE IT'S OVER THE COURSE OF A COUPLE OF MEETINGS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THE EXISTING CODES ARE.
AND I THINK WHAT DON BROUGHT UP WAS PRETTY IMPORTANT.
THAT'D BE, YOU KNOW, PLAYING VISUALLY HAD THE LEEWAY BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF ZONING THAT EXISTS ON THAT PARTICULAR PIECE ALREADY ANYWAY.
BUT IF IT WAS JUST STRAIGHT ZONING, THERE REALLY WOULD NOT BE MUCH OF ANYTHING THEY COULD DO.
SO, I MEAN, JUST NOT AN ACTIONABLE ITEM, I GUESS, BUT JUST SOMETHING WHERE THEY COULD HAVE DISCUSSIONS AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
I MEAN, IS THAT, IS THAT YEAH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON ITS, ON ITS OWN CAN TAKE UP A TOPIC, UM, TO SEE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE AMENDED IN THE ZONING CODE.
AND THIS COULD VERY WELL BE ONE OF THEM.
YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION BEFORE US IS, WAS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE FELT THAT WE NEEDED TO PUT A MORATORIUM ON WHILE THEY WERE DISCUSSING IT OR NOT? I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT REALLY, WHAT THIS ISSUE WAS IT'S NOT NECESSARILY DOING, OR SHOULD WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS TYPE OF USE? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN WITH, OR WITHOUT A MATERIAL WITHOUT MORATORIUM, BUT YEAH, THE, THIS COULD GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD DO BECAUSE TYPICALLY THEY RELY ON THEIR STAFF LIAISON TO DO THE WORK.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, THAT CA THAT CAPACITY.
SO I THINK IT'S THE SAME ISSUE WITH THEM IF THAT IT IS WITH, UH, COUNCIL STAFF.
HOPE WE MOVE THIS TO, UM, WHAT, SO WHAT'S THE NEXT DATE WITH OUR NEXT WORK SESSION? IT'LL BE THE 22ND.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THE TOPIC.
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ALL RIGHT.NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE Q BRENT PIKE REVITALIZATION PROJECT, RIGHT.
JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK UPDATES FOR COUNCIL.
I DID WANT TO LET COUNCIL KNOW THAT THE, UH, SPACE USE PROPOSAL THAT WE HAD SOUGHT FROM LWCC ON WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH OUR SPACE NEEDS AND WHAT WE WOULD BE WILLING OR ABLE TO LOCATE, UH, AT THE MEADOWS, UH, THAT PROPOSAL DID ARRIVE TODAY.
SO WE'LL GIVE THAT A LOOK SO YOU CAN GET THAT, UH, BEFORE COUNCIL, AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
UH, ALSO WANTED TO LET COUNCIL KNOW, UH, HOMESTEAD WHO WAS BEFORE THIS BODY, UH, FAIRLY RECENTLY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UH, IS ACTIVELY MOVING.
THEY'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED MATERIAL FOR US REGARDING SITE CONDITIONS, UH, FOR A PHASE ONE ESA, WHICH IS A MANDATORY, UH, EVALUATION OF POTENTIAL HAZARDS ON SITE.
UH, WE'RE ALSO WORKING NOW TO COORDINATE, UH, TENTATIVE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULES FOR OUR HOMESTEAD IN DOGTOWN.
UH, SO THOSE ARE TWO THINGS THAT ARE MANAGING SOME OF OUR TIME AND, UH, WE'VE SEEN SOME INCREASED ACTIVITY OVER WITH SEE OUR DAYTON.
UH, THERE IS, UH, AND, UH, EXCUSE ME, WE'VE SEEN INCREASED LEASE ACTIVITY WITH C R DAYTON, AT LEAST INTEREST.
UH, WE DO HAVE AN ITEM TO TALK VERY BRIEFLY WITH COUNCIL ABOUT IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TONIGHT TO THAT MATTER, UH, BEYOND THAT, UH, THE DEMOLITION OF, UH, THE UNITED FURNITURE STORE IS ALMOST COMPLETE.
THERE'S A, YOU, EXCUSE ME, NOT YOU, I'M NOT UNITED, BUT, UH, THE CR DAYTON ITSELF, THERE IS A WALL THAT REMAINS THAT HAS SOME UTILITIES ON IT THAT WE NEED TO RELOCATE.
SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.
BUT BEYOND THAT, WE'RE ALL READY TO GO, UH, WITH THE DOGTOWN PROJECT.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR COUNCIL TONIGHT, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING COUNCIL HAS FOR ME, ANYTHING, DO WE HAVE A START DATE ON THE FACADE AND SEE OUR DATE? UH, LWCC JUST SENT US THE PACKAGE YESTERDAY, UH, THEIR PRESENTATION.
AND WE PLAN TO PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL AT THE FOLLOWING WORK SESSION AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION, WE'RE PLANNING TO MAKE THAT PRESENTATION.
UH, SO THE DESIGN IS ALREADY, UH, THE DESIGN IS ALREADY DONE THESE WITH THESE CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS, AS WELL AS, UH, TENTATIVE TIMELINE AND, UH, CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
SO WE'LL NEED TO MEET WITH COUNCIL AND HAVE A SUBSEQUENT DISCUSSIONS WITH RESPECT TO FINANCING, MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THE PARTICULAR MECHANICALS ARE IN PLACE TO CONTINUE WITH THAT PROJECT, BUT WE DID WANT TO MAKE COUNCIL AWARE OF EXACTLY WHERE WE WERE AND WHAT WE WERE DOING AND THE ANTICIPATED VISUAL OF THE END PRODUCT THAT YOU WOULD BE BUYING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE? RICHARD? THANK YOU, BRIAN.
I KNOW THIS IS A QUESTION I'VE ASKED BEFORE AND, UH, I'M JUST GONNA KINDA PUT IT BACK ON THE TOP OF THE SURFACE HERE.
HAVE WE HAD ANY ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE POST OFFICE OR OUR FOLKS OVER AT THE ATHLETIC FOUNDATION REGARDING THE ACCESS
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ROAD AND OR SITE IMPROVEMENTS THERE? WE HAVE NOT.I ONLY CONTINUED TO BRING THAT UP BECAUSE AS THESE DRAWINGS ARE CONTINUING TO BE MADE OUT IN PUBLIC, I THINK THAT'S A VERY KEY ASPECT.
IS THAT ACCESS ROAD AND FUTURE TIE INTO, TO FITCHBURG.
UM, I THINK THAT'S A CLEAR COMPONENT THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ON SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
AND THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION THAT THAT ISSUE IS NOT BENIGN TO US WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS OR OUR STRATEGY AT THIS POINT IS WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF DOGTOWN AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS HOMESTEAD.
AND WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ARE A CROSS PARCEL ACCESS EASEMENTS THAT EXIST.
AND ONCE WE HAVE DOGTOWN AND THOSE AREN'T GOING TO GO ANYWHERE AFTER WE'VE HAD AN ABILITY TO ADDRESS THOSE TWO PARTICULAR, THOSE TWO PARTICULAR ISSUES, WE CAN THEN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE POST AND WITH, UH, WITH THE BOOSTERS ABOUT THOSE EASEMENTS GOING FORWARD AND HOW THOSE EASEMENTS ARE GOING TO BE MAINTAINED AND THE CONDITION OF THAT GROUND TODAY.
CONVERSELY, IF IT IS THE DESIRE TO EXTEND WHAT IS CURRENTLY A PROPOSED PUBLIC LOOP ROAD, UH, OR AROUND THE HOMESTEAD PARCEL SOUTH TO FITCHBURG, THEN THERE IS THE MATTER OF EMINENT DOMAIN AND THE ABILITY TO SIMPLY TAKE THE PROPERTY AND PUT IN THE, AT AND PUT IN THE ROAD.
SO REGARDLESS OF WHICHEVER PATH COUNCIL WOULD ELECT TO GO FORWARD, REGARDLESS OF WHICH PATH FORWARD THAT THE PROJECT MAY TAKE, THE ACCESS IS SECURE.
OUR ABILITY TO WORK WITH THOSE PARTNERS IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM IS IN FRONT OF US AND IS A CONDITION THAT WITH RESPECT TO OUR PRIORITIES TODAY CAN WAIT FOR, I WON'T SAY EVER, BUT CAN WAIT FOR A FEW MORE WEEKS TO ME A FEW MORE WEEKS OR A FEW MORE MONTHS WHILE WE GET THESE OTHER MORE PRESSING ISSUES SOLIDIFIED.
SO WE CAN STEP AWAY FROM THEM AND GET TO THIS PARTICULAR, IT GETS TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUES.
AND PLEASE KNOW THAT I HEAR AND UNDERSTAND YOUR STATEMENTS.
UM, THE ONLY REASON I CONTINUED TO BRING THIS UP IS THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAD JUST INQUIRED ON A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.
THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT I I'M, AND I COULD BE COMPLETELY WRONG.
I'M MISSPEAKING ON MY TIMELINE.
I'M GOING BACK SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS AND INQUIRING THEM.
UM, BECAUSE I KNOW THOSE TWO ENTITIES ARE EAGER TO HEAR FROM US ON WHAT THE PLAN IS AND HOW IT INCORPORATES WITH THEM OFFICIALLY.
UM, AND WHEN I STILL HEAR TO DATE THAT WE'VE NOT HAD ANY OFFICIAL CONVERSATION, BUT THEY'RE EAGER TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
THAT'S WHY I CONTINUE TO BRING IT UP.
SO, AND IF THEY ARE EAGER TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, I BELIEVE OUR CONTACT INFORMATION IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE AND THEY CAN REACH OUT AT THEIR CONVENIENCE AND WE CAN BEGIN THAT DISCUSSION.
BUT QUITE FRANKLY, I DO NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES OR THE CAPABILITIES TO BE ABLE TO TAKE AWAY FROM WHAT I'M CURRENTLY WORKING ON AND BEGIN THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
AND I, UM, I WISH WE WERE FARTHER ALONG IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT AT ANY POINT IN TIME, IT COULD, BECAUSE YES, I DO RECALL THAT COUNSEL HAD ASKED US TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATIONS PREVIOUSLY.
I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO MY ABILITY SINCE THE TIME I'VE BEEN IN THIS PARTICULAR SEAT.
AND SINCE THE TIME I'VE BEEN IN THIS PARTICULAR SEAT, I'VE HAD MORE RESPONSIBILITIES THAN I WOULD, THAT WOULD ENABLE ME TO GO AND HAVE THE PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED.
I COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH THAT STATEMENT.
THANKS MA'AM AND THE QUESTIONS.
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AND NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE R, WHICH IS THE, HE WRITES PULLING LOCATIONS.I THINK JERRY IS GOING TO UPDATE THAT, MAN.
I KNEW I SHOULD'VE GONE TO THE RESTROOM.
UM, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO MIAMI COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS, EXCUSE ME.
UM, WE HAD, I THINK I WERE DEALING WITH THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR.
WE WITH NO DISRESPECT TO THAT PERSON, ALL WENT UP TO THE DIRECTOR, HERSELF HAD CONVERSATIONS.
UM, THE BOY, WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO IS THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR POLLING LOCATIONS WITHIN THE COUNTY AND THEY CANNOT IDENTIFY ANY PLACE WITHIN COUNTY HUBER HEIGHTS, PROPER AT LEAST MIAMI COUNTY TO HOLD THESE ELECTIONS OR ANY OTHER PLACES THAT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.
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FOR THOSE REQUIREMENTS, WE RECEIVED THEM.I THINK I SHARED, EXCUSE ME, SHARED THAT WITH COUNCIL.
AND THERE ARE CERTAIN ADA REQUIREMENTS, ELECTRICAL OUTLET REQUIREMENTS, SIZE REQUIREMENTS, PARKING REQUIREMENTS, ALL THIS OTHER TYPE OF STUFF.
UM, I HAD NOT HEARD BACK FROM ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS TO ANY KNOWN SITES.
UM, TONY AND I HAVE LOOKED VARIOUS PLACES, UM, JUST ON THE MAP.
AND THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, IS THEY'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO TALK WITH US.
IF WE CAN PROVIDE THEM WITH SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T ALREADY BE, THEY COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING.
I THINK THE BIGGER ISSUE THAT I THINK THAT RICHARD WAS BRINGING UP, THAT I AGREED WITH WAS, UM, I THINK WE UNDERSTAND THAT PROBLEMS IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY.
I MEAN, TRYING TO GET LOCATIONS IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY, THAT THAT'S ONE THING I THINK WE AGREED.
THAT'S THE RULE THAT THEY'LL GET.
IT WAS A MATTER OF MAKING CHANGES TO LOCATION OF THE HIGH SCHOOL.
IF THAT'S ONE OF THEIR POLLING LOCATIONS FROM THE CHURCH THAT THEY'RE DRIVING NINE MILES TO, AND THEN WANTING TO WAIT UNTIL 20, 23 TO MAKE THAT CHANGE, WE WERE LOOKING TO SEE WHY CAN'T THEY MAKE THAT CHANGE ANY SOONER FOR THE UPCOMING ELECTIONS VERSUS WAITING FOR ANOTHER YEAR TO HAVE PEOPLE DRIVE FROM, TO JUST GO TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.
SO I DON'T THINK ANY OF US DISAGREE AND I DON'T THINK EVEN THE MIAMI COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS IS DISAGREEING THAT BETHEL HIGH SCHOOL IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO HOLD THE ELECTION.
IT'S HOW COME WE GOT TO WAIT A YEAR AND A HALF TO HAVE THAT LOCATION? BE IT VERSUS JUST MAKING IT SOONER.
I THINK THAT THAT WAS REALLY THE BIGGEST, AT LEAST RICHARD OR CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK THAT WAS THE ISSUE THAT YOU AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT AT LENGTH AND AGREED TO AT THE LAST, AT THE LAST WEEK.
NO, THAT THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
UM, IT KINDA, IT FELT LIKE THEY WEREN'T PICKING UP WHAT WE WERE PUTTING DOWN THAT YET.
YES, WE DO UNDERSTAND THERE'S LIMITED OPTIONS AVAILABLE WITHIN THE MIAMI COUNTY AREA.
UM, BUT HERE'S AN IMMEDIATE CHANGE YOU CAN MAKE NOW.
UM, AND THEY'RE SAYING, OH NO, WE GOT TO WAIT ANOTHER YEAR, PLUS IT'S JUST SILLY.
SO YEAH, I WOULD AGREE THAT IS SUSTAINED.
UM, BECAUSE IF MY UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT AND I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK ON THIS TOPIC, BUT I MEAN, IT'S SIMPLY AS THE MIAMI COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS CONTACTING THE SCHOOLS SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ELECTIONS THERE.
UM, YOU NEED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SPACE AVAILABLE FOR US.
SO ON AND SO FORTH AND AGREEMENT BE DONE.
THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME OTHER TECHNICALITIES IN THERE, BUT RIGHT.
AND I DON'T KNOW THE FACTS OF IT.
THEY MAY HAVE LEASE ARRANGEMENTS ALREADY IN PLACE WITH THE OTHER PLACES THAT THEY, MAYBE YOU DON'T WANT TO BREAK FOR SOME REASON, I DON'T REALLY KNOW THE REASON FOR, FOR THE DELAY.
I'VE NEVER THAT'S I REMEMBER THEM TALKING ABOUT THEY WERE MOVING IT TO THIS SCHOOL AND THEY CAN'T REMEMBER FOR SURE WHAT THEY SAID, WHAT THE REASON WAS IF THEY EVEN SAY TO THAT, WHY IT WAS LATER.
AND I DON'T MEAN TO KEEP HARPING ON THE SUBJECT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EVEN MORE TIME BECAUSE THE NEW MAP THAT THEY CAME OUT WITH GOT DENIED ONCE AGAIN.
SO, UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THE SITUATION WE SIMPLY JUST, I WANT TO KNOW FROM THE, FROM BOARD OF ELECTIONS, WHY IS IT THAT WE CAN'T MAKE THIS CHANGE NOW WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT THAT'S, I WILL, I WILL PUT THAT DIRECT QUESTION TO HER FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.
SO, AND JERRY, IF YOU GET AN ANSWER SOONER THAT IF YOU'LL JUST UPDATE US AND THEN IF WE THE REQUIRES FURTHER DISCUSSION, THEN WE CAN, WE CAN MOVE THAT FORWARD.
BUT YEAH, THAT'S THE BIG ANSWER TO ME IS IF WE KNOW WE CAN MOVE IT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, WHY DO WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL NOVEMBER 20, 23? WHY CAN'T THAT HAPPEN? AT LEAST IF IT CAN'T HAPPEN BY THE PRIMARY, WHENEVER THAT'S GOING TO BE OKAY, FINE.
AT LEAST NOVEMBER 20, 22 WOULD MAKE SENSE.
WHY NOVEMBER 20, 23, AS THEY HAD SAID BEFORE, HAVE WE RECEIVED A DEFINITE THAT WE COULD USE ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOL? YEAH, I THINK THAT, I THINK THEY HAD SAID THAT'S WHAT WAS THERE? IT WAS THEIR INTENTION TO MOVE TO BETHEL.
I MET WITH THEM AND HAD HAD INITIAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MOVING TO BETHEL.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THE SUBSTANCE OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, BUT THEIR WHOLE PLAN THAT THE MIAMI COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS BOARD IS SET FOR THEM IS THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK TO SCHOOLS AS THE PRIMARY PLACES, NOT PERFORMING LOCATIONS.
BECAUSE I CALLED BETHEL TO TRY TO READ SOMEBODY'S, UM, IMPLANT HERE OR ANYWHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, TO SEE IF THEY COULD MAKE SOME SUGGESTIONS AND NOBODY RETURNS YOUR CALLS.
I MEAN, I THINK CLEARLY THEY'RE TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES AND THEIR FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
THERE IS A BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT OURS IS, BUT THERE ARE SOME OFFICES.
I KNOW THEY HAVE TOWNSHIP ADMINISTRATORS.
I MEAN THAT'S, BUT I THINK JERRY, AGAIN, I THINK IT ALL COMES DOWN TO WHAT THE REAL BRASS TAX IS.
HOW COME WE CAN'T MAKE THE BETHEL SCHOOL LOCATION SOONER THAN NOVEMBER OF 20, 23.
THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
IF THERE'S A REASONABLE ANSWER,
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FINE, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS TO RIGHT.CAUSE PEOPLE IN BELLE, PEOPLE IN HEBREW HEIGHTS OF MIAMI COUNTY ARE STILL DRIVING NINE MILES TO GO VOTE.
AND I THINK THAT'S KEEPING A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM VOTING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS.
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AND NEXT IS ITEM THREE S OUR LAST ITEM ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WHICH IS THE CITY MANAGER PROCESS TYPE.I PUT SOME HANDOUTS BEFORE COUNCIL HERE.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE.
AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS, UH, WE WERE SOLICITING FEEDBACK ON THE RECRUITMENT BROCHURE FOR THE CITY MANAGER POSITION.
UM, UH, BASED ON THE DRAFT THAT HAD BEEN PROVIDED INITIALLY BY BAKER TILLY, UH, TAKING THE FEEDBACK THAT WAS INCORPORATED FROM THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
UH, BAKER TAYLOR DID FINALIZE THE RECRUITMENT BROCHURE LAST WEEK.
AND, UM, I WENT AHEAD AND GAVE THEM PERMISSION TO, UH, INITIATE THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS USING THE BROCHURE.
SO THIS WAS DISTRIBUTED OUT THROUGH A VARIETY OF OUTLETS, UH, BEGINNING, UM, THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 3RD OF LAST WEEK.
UM, I KNOW I'VE SEEN IT PERSONALLY ON LINKEDIN AND A COUPLE OF SITUATIONS ALREADY, UH, WHICH IS ONE OF THE VENUES.
THEY INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD BE, UH, PUTTING THAT OUT.
UM, I DID GET A, UM, UH, EMAIL, UH, THE OTHER DAY FROM, UM, PATTY WITH BAKER, TILLY.
AND SHE TOLD ME THAT, UH, WITHIN 24 HOURS SHE HAD, UH, SEVERAL APPLICATIONS ALREADY, UH, FOR THE POSITION.
SO, UH, THE WAY IT'LL WORK FROM THIS POINT WHILE THE APPLICATION PERIOD IS OPEN, SHE'LL GIVE ME A WRITTEN UPDATE OF THE PROGRESS TOWARDS A NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS AND THAT SORT OF THING, UM, ON A WEEKLY BASIS.
AND I'LL BE SHARING THAT WITH COUNCIL AS I RECEIVED THAT INFORMATION.
UH, THE OTHER HANDOUT HERE IS A, UM, OH, AND I SHOULD MENTION THE DEADLINE FOR APPLICATIONS IS MARCH THE SEVENTH, UH, UH, WOULD BE THE FINAL DEADLINE FOR APPLICATIONS TO BE RECEIVED BY BAKER TILLY.
AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM THAT I PASSED OUT WAS, UH, AN INITIAL CITY MANAGER SEARCH TIMELINE, UH, BASED ON THAT APPLICATION DATE OF MARCH THE SEVENTH.
UM, SO, UM, THEY WOULD IMMEDIATELY BEGIN, UH, REVIEWING, UH, THE APPLICATIONS RECEIVED ON MARCH 8TH, UM, DOING SOME SCREENING AND A REVIEW OF SUPPLEMENTAL, UH, QUESTIONNAIRES OF THE APPLICANTS, ASKING THE APPLICANTS TO SUBMIT A VIDEO INTERVIEWS, UH, DURING THAT FIRST WEEK.
AND THEN, UH, BEGINNING THE WEEK OF MARCH 21ST, THE CITY WOULD RECEIVE THE FIRST, UH, SEMI-FINALIST REPORT WITH CANDIDATE MATERIALS AND, UH, SOME OF THOSE VIDEO INTERVIEWS.
AND THEN, UM, WE WOULD HAVE THE FOLLOWING WEEK HERE AT THE CITY TO CONSIDER SOME OF THOSE MATERIALS, UH, DESIGNATE SOME FINALISTS FROM AMONG THOSE CANDIDATES TO START THE INTERVIEW PROCESS.
AND THEN, UH, THE T THE REST OF THE TIMELINES, UH, YOU KNOW, FALL OFF OF THOSE INITIAL GOALPOSTS.
SO, UM, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT, UH, THE HORSES OUT OF THE GATE AND WE'RE ACTIVELY RECRUITING AT THIS POINT.
WE'VE GOT, I MEAN, SEVERAL APPLICATIONS SO FAR FROM SCREENINGS, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I LIKE THE TIMELINE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO SPEED IT UP, BUT, UH, I LIKE THE TIMELINE.
I LIKED THE INFORMATION PUT OUT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS.
BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I THINK, UM, UH, BRANDON MENTIONED, OR WE HAVE A NEED FOR A VERY BRIEF AND QUICK EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO TONY WHO AGREED THAT, PLEASE? YES.
UH, WE WOULD NEED A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER OHIO REVISED CODE SECTION 1 21 0.22 G FIVE, TO DISCUSS TRADE SECRETS ASSOCIATED WITH CERTAIN LEASES FOR THE FORMER CRD AND PROPERTY, WHICH ARE CONFIDENTIAL AS TRADE SECRETS UNDER OHIO REVISED CODE SECTION 1, 3, 3, 3 0.61.
IS THERE A MOTION TO UNDER EXECUTIVE SESSION? PRITCHARD? SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
SO IS 9 0 5 AND WE'RE MOVED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
AND, UH, AS SOON AS WE FINISH, WE'LL COME BACK OUT AND SORT OF LET ANYONE KNOW OF ANY DECISIONS OR ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN.
SO WE WILL BE BACK IN JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
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IT IS NINE 12, WE'VE COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AND COUNCIL, UH, ACTION WAS TAKEN IN THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION TO AUTHORIZE WHAT'S WHAT'S THAT YOU CAN'T TAKE ACTION.UH, COUNCIL HAS DECIDED TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO, UM, PLACE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY'S COUNSELING TO EXECUTE A LEASE AT THE CRD AND PROPERTY, UM, AT THE MARION MEADOWS SITE.
SO THAT, UH, WILL BE ON MONDAY'S MEETING THAT WASN'T AT OR DISCUSSED AT TONIGHT'S WORK SESSION.
BUT, UH, WE WILL SEE THAT ON MONDAY'S AGENDA.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT IS NOW 9:12 PM.
AND THIS COUNCIL MEETING FOR FEBRUARY THE EIGHTH IS ADJOURNED.