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[ AGENDA PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD City Hall - Council Chambers 6131 Taylorsville Road January 20, 2022 6:30 P.M.]

[00:00:04]

ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE.

IT IS 6 31.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET THE MEETING STARTED.

ROLL CALL VINCENT KING HERE.

ALEX BLACK, BRIAN DADDY, CHRISTOPHER HALL.

UH, BLAKE HERSTEIN GLENN POTTINGER SIDNEY SMITH, DENNIS SNYDER, MATT TIG, RON EIFERT HERE.

OKAY.

SO THAT EVERYONE'S AWARE.

I DID HEAR FROM, UM, MATT AND SYDNEY TODAY.

UM, THEY ARE UNABLE TO MAKE THE MEETING TODAY.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM HERE.

OPENING REMARKS BY THE CHAIR.

UH, HAPPY NEW YEAR.

HOPE EVERYONE HAD A GOOD HOLIDAY AND IS READY TO GET THE NEW YEAR STARTED OFF.

RIGHT.

UM, SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET THE MEETING STARTED.

ARE THERE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS TODAY? ALL RIGHT.

UH, I DON'T REMEMBER FIVE OLD BUSINESS, UH, PARK MANAGERS UPDATE.

SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, UM, CHRIS, CAN YOU GO FIRST BECAUSE I HAVE AN EMAIL HERE FROM JOSH, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES SOME OF THESE OTHER ITEMS AFTER YOURS? SURE.

NOT A PROBLEM.

UM, DON'T HAVE A LOT, UM, FROM A RENTAL STANDPOINT, UM, SHELTERS ARE BEING RENTED.

UM, ALCOHOL PERMITS ARE BEING SOLD, SO THAT'S UP AND RUNNING, UM, USER GROUP WISE, UM, VALLEY VIEW TENNIS.

UM, THEY'RE GOING TO HOLD SOME CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT.

OUR CONFERENCE MATCHES AT, UM, AT THE TENNIS COURTS AT CLOUDS.

SO WE'VE GOT THOSE DATES.

UM, CAROL ALSO REQUESTED A SPECIFIC SATURDAY FOR A TENNIS MATCH THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HOLD.

AND THEN CLUB OHIO HAS RESERVED THEIR THREE FIELDS AT THE FRONT OF CLOUD ALREADY FOR THE SPRING TIMEFRAME.

UM, HAVEN'T HEARD REALLY FROM ANYBODY ELSE YET, BUT IT'S STILL EARLY IN JANUARY.

SO AS WE MOVE THROUGH, UM, I DID UPDATE THE, UM, DOCUMENT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE FEE FOR THE CONCESSION STANDS.

SO THAT'LL GO OUT TO ALL NEW USER GROUPS AS WELL THAT YOU GUYS APPROVED IN DECEMBER.

SO THAT'S BEEN UPDATED.

UM, I'LL HAVE TO GET WITH, UM, SOFTBALL, BASEBALL, UM, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THE SIGNED, UM, LONG-TERM LEASE THAT THEY DID, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY SIGNED IT.

SO I NEED TO GET A COPY OF THAT AND IT GET SOME DOCUMENTATION FROM THEM FOR THE YEAR AS WELL.

SO, UH, GIRLS' SOFTBALL IS NORMALLY TOWARDS THE END OF MARCH IS WHEN I, WHEN THEY NORMALLY START, UM, BASEBALL TRADITIONALLY WAS, UM, APRIL, MIDDLE OF APRIL AND BASEBALL WOULD NORMALLY ALSO RESERVE FIELDS AT, UM, SHELL GATE MONITA.

AND THEY WOULD ALSO, I THINK AT THE BEGINNING, USE A COUPLE OF FIELDS AT COTTONWOOD JUST TILL THEY GOT GAME STARTED.

UM, AND THEN THEY WOULD JUST PLAY GAMES DOWN AT CLOUD.

SO, UM, AS FOR THE AQUATIC CENTER, UM, WE HAVEN'T DONE A WHOLE LOT YET.

UM, WE'RE STARTING TO RECRUIT LIFEGUARDS AND STAFF FOR THE SUMMER.

UM, WE WILL HAVE, UM, WE PICK THE COLORS FOR THE WATERSLIDE THEY'LL REMAIN THE SAME WHEN THEY GET REPAINTED IN MAY.

SO THERE'LL BE BLUE AND WHITE.

UM, WE TALKED TO A CONTRACTOR ABOUT ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE, UM, THE BUDGET.

THE CITY GAVE US THROUGH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR SOME WORK IN THE CONCESSION STAND.

UM, SO THERE, WE HAD A CONTRACTOR OUT TODAY TO GIVE US A BIT ON THAT.

UM, SO THANKS FOR STARTING TO MOVE, BUT, UM, MOST OF THE WORK WILL START IN APRIL AS IT COMES.

UM, THE OTHER THING RELATED TO THE AQUATIC CENTER THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE FEES THAT WE CHARGE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE DOING A COMPARISON WITH TIP, UH, KETTERING AND THERE'S ONE OTHER FACILITY.

UM, MAYBE TROY LOOKING TO SEE HOW WE COMPARE PRICING WISE, BOTH FOR DAILY RATES AND MEMBERSHIPS.

UM, SO I'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO, UM, JOSH AND BRIAN, UM, AND JIM BELL BY TOMORROW.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AND THEN IT'LL GO BEFORE COUNCIL BEFORE APPROVAL.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR COSTS AT THE Y CONTINUE TO GO UP FROM BOTH EMPLOYMENT COSTS AND RAW GOOD COST.

I MEAN, THE PRICE OF CHLORINE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IS GOING UP 53 CENTS PER GALLON, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO, UM, WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT SOME OF THAT, BUT ONE THING THAT I HOPE WE, I THINK WE WILL DO IS WE HAD THOSE SPECIFIC DAYS FOR RESIDENTS AND MEMBERS ONLY, I BELIEVE THAT THOSE WILL STAY SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE AMENITIES UP AT THE KROGER AQUATIC CENTER.

OKAY.

SO ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHRIS? ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

THEN WE'LL BACK UP NOW TO THE PARTS

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MANAGER UPDATES.

SO UNFORTUNATELY JOSH IS UNABLE TO MAKE IT TODAY, BUT HE DID SEND ME A TEXT OR CHRIS I'LL EMAIL THIS TO YOU SO THAT WHEN YOU HAVE OR TEXTED, I WILL EMAIL IT TO YOU.

SO YOU HAVE IT.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ IT AS, AS WRITTEN.

AND THIS INCLUDES INFORMATION ON EICHELBERGER AND COMMUNITY PLAYGROUND AS WELL.

SO BOTH PLAYGROUNDS WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

UH, THEY WILL BE ORDERED WHEN HE GETS BACK IN THE OFFICE NEXT WEEK, UH, WORKING, HE'S WORKING ON ESTIMATES FOR THE NEW BASKETBALL COURTS.

UM, HE'S RECEIVED ESTIMATES FOR THE ASPHALT, AND IT'S STILL TRYING TO GET ESTIMATES FOR PAINTING THE LINES FOR CONCERTS.

SCOTT C FOR CONCERTS HAVE BEEN SCHEDULED FOR THE SUMMER ALREADY.

THE MOVIE NIGHTS HAVE BEEN SET TO THE THIRD FRIDAY OF EVERY MONTH.

THE OBSTACLES FOR THE REMAINING SKILLS LOOP AT THE SKATE PARK ARE IN PRODUCTION NOW.

AND ONCE THOSE ARE DONE, THOSE CREWS SHOULD BE ON SITE.

UH, FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS OF MARCH.

UM, WHETHER DEPENDING TOO, DEPENDING, DEPENDING ON THAT'LL DEPEND ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN START THAT PROJECT AROUND THAT TIME, UH, A NEW SIGN FOR MANITA FIELD WAS CURRENTLY BEING DESIGNED IN A WEIGHTING PRICING.

UM, PLEASE SHARE WITH THE BOARD, THE EMAIL THAT I SENT YOU ABOUT THE PUMPKIN WALK, WHICH I WILL DO RIGHT NOW.

UM, YEAH, PLEASE SHARE THIS EMAIL BECAUSE HE THINKS IT WILL MEET OUR DESIRE AND WHAT OUR INTENT HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO DO A CONTEST OF SOME SORTS, UH, IN THE FUTURE.

SO, BUT HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT JUST YET.

SO WE, HE WAS EITHER EMAIL AND I EMAILED THIS TO YOU ALL ABOUT 10 MINUTES AGO.

UH, WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM BRIAN SEEING, UH, HE WORKS WITH ALL COMMUNITY BINS AND THE JACK-O-LANTERN WORLD, JACQUELINE WORLD IS A FAMILY FRIENDLY EXPERIENCE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO CELEBRATE HALLOWEEN AND FALL.

UH, THEY ROUTE A HALF MILE TO A THREE QUARTER MILE WALK FILLED WITH 1000 WITH THE THOUSANDS OF HAND CARVED PUMPKINS THROUGH THE SHOW.

UM, AND THEY WANTED TO REACH OUT AS, UH, THEY ARE LOOKING FOR VENUES IN DATE, IN THE DAYTON AREA THAT THEY COULD BRING THE SHOW TO.

UM, THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A VENUE THAT HAS ABOUT THREE, APPROXIMATELY 300 TO 500 PARKING SPOTS AND A PATH THAT IS AROUND ABOUT A HALF A MILE TO A PORT ALONG.

UM, AND THEY WERE WONDERING IF WE HAD ANY SUGGESTIONS, UM, AND IF SUGGESTIONS, THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE SHOW.

UM, AND OF COURSE MY IMMEDIATE INSTINCT IS CLOUD PARK BECAUSE IT'S GOT THE MOST PARKING, BUT, UM, SO YOU ALL DO HAVE THIS.

HE'S GONNA, HE'S GONNA REACH OUT AND GET SOME MORE INFORMATION FOR US.

THAT'LL BE A GOOD THING FOR SEPTEMBER THE NEXT STEP, THAT TOY YESTERDAY.

YES.

SO, UM, SO THAT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD EVENT, UM, W THAT'LL COME OUT HERE, SO, UM, WE'LL GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THAT FAIRLY SOON.

AND THAT WAS IT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR JOSH HE'S NOT HERE? SO, UM, VANDALISM DOWN AT THE PARK WITH THAT PLAYGROUND, IS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION, DID YOU HEAR ANYTHING? UM, I KNOW THAT THE, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT, UM, WE'RE, I GUESS, ARRESTED FOR THE ARSON, UM, THEY DID GO BEFORE JUVENILE COURT.

I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DOCUMENTATION THAT GOT SENT TO ME AT THE Y UM, THAT I BROUGHT OVER TO JOSH, UM, BASICALLY STATEMENTS ABOUT WHAT HAD HAPPENED IN DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT AND VALUE.

UM, SO HE WAS WORKING ON THAT AND THEN, UM, THEY WERE STILL, UM, DISCUSSING, CAUSE HE'S BEEN OUT THE FIRST COUPLE OF MEETS CITY STAFF MEETINGS ON TUESDAY.

SO THE LAST STAFF MEETING THAT HE WAS AT, UM, HE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT THEY WERE STILL TALKING WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT REIMBURSEMENT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

SO, OKAY.

SO I DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL FINAL NUMBER, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE WAS IN PROCESS.

AND THEN, UM, I THINK FOR DAMAGES, THERE WERE SOME RESTITUTION COSTS THAT THE JUVENILES WOULD BE LIABLE FOR REQUIRED TO PAY WASN'T AN EXORBITANT NUMBER, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING, SO THEY WERE STILL WORKING ON THAT.

OKAY.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? RIGHT.

OKAY.

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OKAY.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM HERE.

PROGRAMMING UPDATE.

CHRIS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NOT WHAT? I'M SORRY.

NOT CHRIS HALL.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, BLAKE, OKAY.

SO, UH, SO THAT YOU'RE AWARE FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO, UM, GET THE MAILER, UM, FOR THE WATER BILL, THERE WAS A MAILER PUT IN THEIR NEWSLETTER.

UM, IT DIDN'T LIST THE PARK CLEANUP IN THERE FOR APRIL.

UM, SO, UM, THAT IS IN THERE AS WELL AS SOME OTHER EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING AROUND THE CITY.

SO, UM, SO WE'LL START SEEING SOME OF THAT AS WELL.

OKAY.

UM, THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM HERE IS THE COMMUNITY CENTER, UM, UH, WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT THE COMMUNITY SIMS TODAY, BUT JOSH ISN'T HERE.

UM, I WANT TO, UM, MY PLAN FOR NEXT, FOR THE NEXT MEETING WAS TO HAVE IT AT, UM, AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER NEXT MEETING, IF I WERE GOING TO CANCEL THAT AND HAVE THE MEETING HERE, UM, MAINLY BECAUSE, UM, THINGS THAT WE NEED AREN'T THERE JUST YET.

UM, SO WE'LL HAVE OUR NORMAL MEETING HERE NEXT MONTH.

NO, NO, IT WILL BE A TOPIC, BUT THE MEETING THAT I HAD PLANNED FOR NEXT MONTH WILL BE HERE.

OKAY.

NEW BUSINESS MEETING SCHEDULE.

SO, UM, FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, UM, WE HAVE MET MONTHLY.

AND SO WHAT I WANTED TO WAS SIT DOWN AND TALK TO YOU ALL ON THE CPU.

ALL IS STILL GOOD WITH A MONTHLY SCHEDULE, OR IF YOU WOULD PREFER TO SHIFT IT TO EVERY OTHER MONTH AS NEEDED QUARTERLY.

UM, SO I WANTED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH YOU ALL TODAY.

I KNOW THAT WE, UM, WE PROVIDED YOU WITH DATES, UM, CURRENTLY FOR EVERY THIRD, THURSDAY OF THE MONTH AT SIX 30, BUT OF COURSE WE STILL HAVE THE OPTION TO ADJUST OUR SCHEDULE.

UM, SO I WANTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH YOU ALL AND LET YOU ALL THINK ABOUT THAT AND PROVIDE YOUR INPUT.

I'LL START DOWN HERE WITH BRIAN.

I MEAN, I STILL LIKE THE MONTHLY MEETINGS TO JUST RIGHT NOW.

IT'S, UH, THE MARCH 17TH.

I DON'T KNOW FOR ME, IT'S NOT JUST ST.

PATRICK'S DAY, BUT IT'S MARCH MADNESS.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG ONE, BUT I, I THINK, I THINK JULY IS SAFE.

IT'S USUALLY JULY AND DECEMBER IS ALWAYS THERE.

IF HE WANTS, LIKE, YEAH, I THINK MONTHLY IS FINE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'D WANT TO GO QUARTERLY.

IT FEELS LIKE TOO FAR, FAR APART.

UM, IF WE WERE TO CHANGE, I WOULD SAY EVERY OTHER MONTH, BUT I THINK MONTHLY IS PROBABLY FINE.

OKAY.

MONTHLY, I THINK MUM IS THE BEST BECAUSE BETWEEN APRIL AND SEPTEMBER, DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, THERE ARE A LOT, IT'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON.

I THINK WE THOUGHT DURING THE ERA OF THE MONTH, DURING THAT PERIOD OF THE YEAR, YOU MISS A LOT OF THE EVENTS THAT YOU NEED TO BE DISCUSSING HERE.

SO I'M IN FAVOR OF KEEPING IT AS A MONTHLY EVENT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I THINK YOU LOSE A LITTLE BIT OF STEAM ON SOME THINGS, IF YOU, IF YOU'RE NOT QUARTERLY, I THINK WOULD BE A, IT'D BE A DEAL BREAKER, I THINK FOR A LOT OF THINGS, BUT IF PUSH COME TO SHOVE EVERY OTHER MONTH, BUT I I'M OKAY WITH MONTHLY OKAY.

THAT WILL BE UP TO YOU ALL.

WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO JUST GET IT'S ST.

PATRICK'S DAY AND IT'S USUALLY THE FIRST BE THE FIRST ROUND SECOND ROUND AND IT'S, OH, THAT'D BE FIRST SECTOR AT THE THIRSTY, I THINK THE FIRST AND SECOND ROUND.

SO THE FIRST FOUR WILL BE DONE HERE.

YEAH.

TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY.

SO FOR THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY LIKE BASKETBALL, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT WE'LL HAVE, WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO IS WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AND PROPOSE A COUPLE OF TIMES TO MAKE SURE YOUR SCHEDULES WORK AND THEN, UM, DOES THE CITY BUILDING IS, UM, BUT THEN ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH I KNOW FOR SURE WILL BE APRIL WITHIN OUR CLEANUP, WHEN

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ARE WE DOING AND ALL THAT FUN STUFF, BUT THAT IS TRUE.

OKAY.

GOOD SUGGESTION.

WE COULD DO THAT.

THAT'D BE EASY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO, SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I WILL LOOK AT THE CALENDAR, SEND ON A COUPLE OF DATES.

UM, YOU ALL CAN TELL ME BY EMAIL, UM, WHAT YOUR AVAILABILITY IS LIKE, I'LL TRY AND KEEP IT ON A THURSDAY.

UM, AND THEN, UM, AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE AND THEN I'LL SEND A CONFIRMATION OVER TO CHRIS THERE, THAT MEETING WE'LL HAVE TO ADJUST THE AGENDA, AN AGENDA, SOME OF THE DATES LINED UP.

SO NOT A PROBLEM.

OKAY.

EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH THAT.

DOES IT WORK WITH YOUR SCHEDULE? UH, SOCCER IT, THE THIRD THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH, IT'S USUALLY BLOCKED OFF.

I DON'T USUALLY BUST TIME.

IT WAS JUST LAST YEAR DURING THE HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS PLAY OFF.

SO THAT WAS ALL RIGHT.

SO I'LL TRY AND I'LL TRY AND LOOK AT THE THURSDAY BEFORE WINTER SPRING BREAK.

IT'S AT THE THIRST IS APRIL.

OKAY.

SO I'LL LOOK IT UP THURSDAY BEFORE THE SECOND OR THE FOURTH, THURSDAY.

WE'LL SO I'LL SIT DOWN A COUPLE OF DAYS.

YOU ALL, LET ME KNOW WHAT YOUR SCHEDULE IS LIKE, AND THEN I'LL LOOK BEYOND THURSDAYS JUST FOR THAT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SCHEDULE? SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'LL KEEP IT TO MONTHLY.

WE'LL ADJUST MARCH'S MEETING AND THEN WE'LL PUT THE QUARTERLY TO LOOK AT THE OTHER MINDSETS WE HAD TO CANCEL AND WE'LL CANCEL IT AT NIGHT, CONTINUING TO HAVE IT MONTHLY.

OKAY.

UH, IS THERE, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL BUSINESS OR ANNOUNCEMENTS? BRIAN BLAKE, CHRIS.

ALEX? NO, DENNIS.

RYAN.

I DON'T HAVE ANY EITHER.

HAS EVERYONE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? YEAH.

HEY IT'S UH, WHEN DID YOU SAY THAT, THEN YOU SENT OUT THE PICTURES OF THE, UH, THE ROCCA FOR A PLAYGROUND FOR COMMUNITY PARK? YES.

WHEN, WHEN, HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT? BECAUSE I TRIED TO LOOK IT UP ON MY EMAILS TO LOOK OVER IT AGAIN IS IN THE PARTS IT'S IN THE TOPICS.

UM, THE TOPICS, EMAIL THAT I SENT OUT, UH, LAST WEEK.

OKAY.

PROBABLY WHAT WOMEN'S DAY, THURSDAY I WAS ASKING FOR.

YEAH.

SO IT'S IN THAT, BUT IT'S AN, IT SHOULDN'T BE, IF YOU HAVE AN IPHONE, YOU HAVE AN IPHONE.

YOU OKAY.

SO IT MAY SHOW UP AS AN ATTACHMENT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SOMEBODY WHOSE NAME WAS SPELLED WRONG.

OKAY.

SO HAS EVERYONE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MINUTES FOR THE AGENDA? THE MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH? YES.

OKAY.

SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, THE MINUTES WILL BE APPROVED AS WRITTEN.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY.

MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

OKAY.

SO I'M GOING TO BACK UP, WARREN.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS AWARE.

WE DID NOT FORGET ABOUT DOWEL PARK.

UM, THE YEAH, DEL PARK.

I'VE, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON SOME MORE, SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM A SURVEY, UM, TO BE, UH, PROVIDED TO JOSH.

AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION WE'LL, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO START THE DISCUSSION ON COMMITTEE, ON THE COMMUNITY CENTER AS WELL, AROUND THAT TIME.

SO WE DIDN'T FORGET IT.

WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THAT INFORMATION TO COME OVER TO JOSH.

OKAY.

OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE FEBRUARY 17TH AT 6:30 PM.

OKAY.

IT IS, IT IS 6 51 AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.